1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:06,520 All right guys, with what has now become an annual tradition, 2 00:00:06,520 --> 00:00:10,640 we have our pre NFL draft. This is such a a mouthful pre 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:17,280 NFL draft dynasty rookie mock draft super flex tited premium. 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,360 And to help us out, we brought on some special guests, some 5 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,240 dynasty thought leaders from around the space. 6 00:00:22,240 --> 00:00:24,960 You guys know Blair Andrews from Rotovich, you know Ron Stewart 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,960 from the Ron Stewart YouTube channel and I believe first time 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,760 on the channel, Ryan Heath from Fantasy points. 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,640 They will be joining myself, Jacob and Davis to go 2 rounds 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:39,200 deep debating how these players should be valued before the NFL 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,200 places these guys on their teams. 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,520 I'm Pete. This is ship chasing. 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:47,720 Let's do it. Pat Fryer, Helmo. 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,800 This is why. This is why I'm hot. 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,360 Anita hand job. Fix your sight for. 16 00:00:53,440 --> 00:01:00,440 Jamar Alpha play Chase. You can't handle the heat. 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:01,920 It looks like we're finally at this. 18 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:13,000 Point you're right. All right, here we go. 19 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,680 Davis and Jacob fresh off of a very fun ADP chasing episode 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,720 last night with Sam Sherman returning. 21 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,680 And we got our special guests. Blair, you guys know from 22 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,360 Rodoviz, he's been on the channel plenty of times, same 23 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,800 with Ron Stewart. Ron, I just realized we might 24 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,160 have to book you twice for two Jets picks on the NFL Draft 25 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,040 episode next week. Oh. 26 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,760 Yeah, no, that'll be great. That'll be great. 27 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,200 I'm sure I'll love what they do. Yes, I think you'll you'll be 28 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,760 fine with the first pick. I think it'll be the second pick 29 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,280 where we get some. Live volatility. 30 00:01:44,320 --> 00:01:45,680 Why are we saying the second pick? 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,040 Just say Omar Cooper. You mean Omar Cooper? 32 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,480 I'm not that sold on David Bailey. 33 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,400 I don't know the whole thing, like Aaron Glenn is like 34 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,040 picking. I don't know he's gonna get 35 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,360 fired by week 7 and the whole thing is a mess. 36 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,120 So. I want this on record. 37 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,880 I would take. I would take downs at 2. 38 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:03,840 I know it's an I don't hate that take. 39 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,040 That's what I'm. Coming around on it. 40 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,039 OK, All right. Well, we will save, you know, 41 00:02:09,039 --> 00:02:12,720 some of the IDP talk for next week when we're killing time 42 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,760 during a four hour stream with lots of defensive players. 43 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,880 But our final panelist first time on the channel. 44 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,360 Like I said, Ryan Heath from Fantasy points. 45 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,400 Welcome to the ship chasing airwaves. 46 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,280 Yeah, Thanks for having me guys. Excited to get in here and chop 47 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,720 it up with you all. Yes, and the format that we're 48 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,520 gonna do, exact same format as last year. 49 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:39,560 I am putting all of our names on a randomizer right now. 50 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,320 We're gonna go 2 rounds, 24 picks. 51 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,240 Each of us will get 4 picks. The order could be, you know, 52 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,680 Davis gets 4 picks in a row. We'll we'll let the randomizer 53 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,840 figure that out. And then, you know, we can make 54 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,720 fun of each other's choices. We can debate some of these 55 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,800 spots and and see how you guys should be thinking about these 56 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,800 guys in dynasty leagues before the NFL draft. 57 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,680 Blair, how how are things going in your neck of the woods? 58 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,240 I know you guys have been doing all kinds of prospecting over at 59 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,080 Rodovis. Yeah, it's a fun, fun season to 60 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,520 be in the fantasy space or fun time, obviously right ahead of 61 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:16,040 the NFL draft when we can still have like really optimistic 62 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,640 takes on all these guys before they before they go to The Jets 63 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:23,440 or wherever. Exactly. 64 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,120 Exactly. All right, Well, let's let's get 65 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,840 to it. I, I put 24 of these picks on 66 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,680 this randomizer so you guys can't accuse me of trying to rig 67 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,400 it. Davis How many how many shuffles 68 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,120 should I do here before we settle? 69 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,960 I mean if you if you do the the deck of cards, it's if you 70 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,880 shuffle a deck of cards 7 times, you get a full new, 71 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,440 statistically speaking you get a brand new mix that has never 72 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,240 happened before in human history. 73 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,960 So I think 7 times is correct. Wow, look at that. 74 00:03:52,960 --> 00:04:04,280 Even coming with a fun anecdote as we randomize here, 123-4567. 75 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,840 Look at that great process, David. 76 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:14,520 Oh, almost. Yeah, apparently random.org does 77 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,800 not have the same statistical probabilities of a deck being 78 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,640 shuffled 7 times. Do you want me? 79 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,200 To am I? Am I even on here? 80 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:24,600 Did I not? Oh my. 81 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,840 Do you forget me? Ron. 82 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,360 Ron is not in there. I have to do 7 more times. 83 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:31,280 Ron. Oh my God. 84 00:04:32,280 --> 00:04:35,480 Pete, would you consider just doing Wheel of Names 24 85 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,280 consecutive? Times Honestly, we could. 86 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,240 We could. Man, what? 87 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,440 AI love that we have all the AI in the world and Pete is 88 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,840 resorting to this as like. We certainly didn't have Dalton 89 00:04:49,840 --> 00:04:52,400 case. Nick Kirkawano would be like, 90 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,040 man, come on. Bro he's he doesn't know why I 91 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,080 didn't build something in in replet or whatever before the 92 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,200 show. Here's my thing, I will. 93 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,280 Get. Of rigging it right if I just 94 00:05:04,280 --> 00:05:06,360 come to the show with a preloaded thing so I like to 95 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,080 show people how the sausage gets made sure and I can't screen 96 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,480 share my quad I can't show you guys all my my dirty searches 97 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,480 and. Right now, Pete. 98 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,120 Pete's so committed to the handbuild that he won't even 99 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,360 copy and paste the name four times and typing it all 24 100 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,560 times. I'm on tilt right now. 101 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,640 I'm just on absolute, absolute tilt, but I do like your 102 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,480 suggestion to do it how we did with the the best ball draft 103 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:33,160 last week. Well, we'll. 104 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,320 Just more dramatic. Yes, you don't get to plot out 105 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:39,040 quite as much. Who am I forgetting on here this 106 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,520 time? Yourself. 107 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:41,760 Myself. Yep, myself. 108 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:42,840 OK. All right. 109 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,400 There we go. All right, this will be more 110 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:46,720 fun. Good suggestion. 111 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,280 Thank you guys for getting us here. 112 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,120 This is for. The one O 1. 113 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:56,320 And as you might remember, last year, Ray G thought this was an 114 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:01,080 overall dynasty draft. This is just the incoming 2026 115 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,920 rookie. Spin it 7 times though, no. 116 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,760 No, we're good now. We're good. 117 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,760 We're good. Davis, you are going to get the 118 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,000 the 101 pick here on a very gretsch.com ass site. 119 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:15,920 What? What do we got here? 120 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,480 Superflex League, You know, quarterbacks are super 121 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,200 important. You can't win without 122 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,840 quarterbacks. I will select noted offensive 123 00:06:26,840 --> 00:06:29,360 weapon Jeremiah. Please do not put running back 124 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,640 for his position. Please put OW offensive. 125 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,760 Weapon for. For Jeremiah Love out of the 126 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:39,400 University of Notre Dame, I am. It's hard to tell if this is a 127 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,320 consensus opinion or not at this point, but in my rankings I have 128 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:49,240 him a tier below Ashton Genti. I have him I I guess, but for 129 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,640 most people it would be two tiers below Bijan Robinson and 130 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,920 Jameer Gibbs in my rankings. I actually have G&T in the Bijan 131 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,560 Gibbs tier in my dynasty rankings and and love would be 132 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:06,520 in the next mix of guys with a Chan Amari and Hampton. 133 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:11,840 You know, just the the that next group of of high ceiling decent 134 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,480 age cause 'cause then there's that weird dynasty tier where 135 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,560 like in dynasty, what do you do with McCaffrey, Barkley, Henry, 136 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,360 like the first second round redraft picks who might 137 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,400 literally be playing their last season of football. 138 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,840 This is very tricky thing ranking those guys. 139 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,000 So the the only league where I have the one O 1, I already 140 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,720 traded it away. So. 141 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:38,720 What did you trade it away for? I traded it away for shit. 142 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,280 I I think, I think 2:00 first and one of the running back. 143 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,640 I traded it like 2 months ago. I can't even, I can't even 144 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,040 remember. It was after the season ended, 145 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,520 but I traded away for, I traded away for two first because it 146 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,560 was I, it was one of those teams where it was not my one O 1. 147 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,200 I'd already traded for the one O 1. 148 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:55,840 Right. A team that you run could never 149 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:00,320 get the one O 1 naturally. People are people are saying, 150 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,320 people are saying, people are saying this more and more. 151 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:11,360 Yeah, I just, I, I something to me is just because this class is 152 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,840 so bad. I think it's elevated the status 153 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,920 of Jeremiah Love in people's eyes. 154 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,040 And maybe I will end up being wrong. 155 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,040 But to me, I mean, I did this show with Jacob last week and I 156 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,920 said to me he's more Hampton than GT. 157 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,360 Personally, this is where I'm at on on Jeremiah Love. 158 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,760 So I guess the question for the panel is anyone brave enough to 159 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,240 even play a little bit of devil's advocate here and say 160 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,000 maybe he shouldn't be the number one pick in Superflex with a 161 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,240 bullet? Can anyone do it? 162 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,640 No, I'm, I'm way higher on him than Davis is, so definitely 163 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:44,440 not. Yeah. 164 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,880 Blair, you're, you're cooking. You're trying to cook one up. 165 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,640 You're our contrarian here. I'm trying to cook one up but 166 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,360 it's really tough this year. Yeah, Ryan, I assume same for 167 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,320 you #1 with a bullet. He is. 168 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,360 If you want the devil's advocate take, it's that his production 169 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,080 wasn't that much better than what Audric Estimate did in 170 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,800 2023. There's a lot of very obvious 171 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,320 reasons for that, Joel among many among them. 172 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:16,200 So yeah, he's the one O 1. I may end up ranking him over 173 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,880 Gente even, depending exactly where he goes for a short term 174 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,200 landing spot. So yeah, I'm pretty high on him 175 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,920 ultimately. OK. 176 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,520 Also, yeah, Jacob and I both just messaged you at the same 177 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,000 time. Your mic levels are a little 178 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,600 soft there for us. All right, let that one seems 179 00:09:34,680 --> 00:09:37,640 pretty locked in there as consensus. 180 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,640 It is kind of unfortunate that we don't have a quarterback up 181 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,440 there who could maybe challenge him for the one O 1, but we are 182 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,400 not going to force it. We are going to spin the wheel 183 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:53,320 and head to pick #2 here. Looks like it is going to be 184 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,080 Blair. Blair is going to be picking 185 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,800 second here. What are you thinking? 186 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,200 Can I trade down? You could try, except no one 187 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,640 knows what picks they have. So actually. 188 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:12,960 That might be very tough. So the one player I was thinking 189 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,040 if you could, if you could make a case for someone going ahead 190 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,400 of Jeremiah Love. This is going to sound crazy but 191 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,720 I think it's Kenyan Siddique in this. 192 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,440 Whoa. Yeah. 193 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,200 OK, here we go. Here we go. 194 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:32,960 So Siddique the best? I mean, when he gets drafted, is 195 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,720 he not already the most athletic player in the whole league? 196 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,200 Well, until Eli Stour's name gets called. 197 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,120 So for about 16 minutes he will be. 198 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,400 I mean, Stour's has the vertical, but Sadiq's a little 199 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:46,320 faster. Right, Stours. 200 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,520 Stours also has that pesky thing called producing on a football 201 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,320 field that. I hope so that Sadiq is still 202 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:52,200 trying to figure. Out. 203 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:55,480 Yeah, that helps a little bit. I mean, you're looking at Sadiq 204 00:10:55,480 --> 00:11:00,160 as like a a George Kittle kind of guy, who, I mean, yeah, 205 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:03,080 Kittle didn't have this amazing production in college either. 206 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,320 And a lot of tight ends honestly kind of don't have the 207 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,200 production you're looking for necessarily. 208 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,680 But the athleticism goes a long way at the position. 209 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:15,560 So yeah, I don't know if I wouldn't take really Siddiq 210 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:18,000 here, but. OK, is this a bit you want you 211 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,800 want to? No, I still want to take them. 212 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,040 I still want to take them OK. There's. 213 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,760 Probably. There's probably a couple guys. 214 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,320 I might, I might. This is why I want to trade down 215 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,240 though. But this is your way of saying 216 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,400 you are much higher on Siddiq than the market in Titan premium 217 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:35,960 dynasty leagues? That's it. 218 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,360 OK, All right. Any, any other thoughts on 219 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,120 Sadiq? Obviously the the production 220 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,200 versus athleticism I think has been the the kind of talking 221 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,520 point with him. Ron, as someone who watched his 222 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:53,520 team draft Mason Taylor last year, where does Sadiq strike 223 00:11:53,520 --> 00:12:00,320 you as a viable round one pick? That's one I get into to Jets 224 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,240 Twitter beefs with like nameless account faceless accounts 225 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,240 constantly. I don't know. 226 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,880 He's a he's a perfectly fine NFL first round tight end. 227 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,120 He's just not for me. Like tight ends are just tricky. 228 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,680 I know recently we've seen production do well in the past. 229 00:12:16,680 --> 00:12:22,080 We've seen like freaks do well. I've just been hurt too much by 230 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:27,160 OJ Howard or Noah fan or you can go down whatever list you want 231 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,200 to really trust Kenyan Sadiq this high or like even inside 232 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,960 the top five picks. Like I don't know, like he he's 233 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,000 a super athletic guy, but I just wish it showed up in more 234 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,920 efficiency in terms of like yards per out run or like I 235 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,040 think his longest catch this year was 30 yards. 236 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,000 Like I I know that that's that's a pretty far away to go for a 237 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,760 tight end, but for a guy who runs like a four three or 238 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,680 whatever, he he's not. He doesn't look like the he he 239 00:12:52,680 --> 00:12:54,280 didn't. It doesn't translate the same 240 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,520 way that you'd want it to. Like there's some Mike Gaseki 241 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,520 going on. Oh, that's really good. 242 00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:01,880 Yeah, yeah, Gaseki is a really good comp. 243 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:08,200 Ryan, I I want to say Sadiq is kind of consensus number six, 244 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:13,360 like after Love, after the three wide receivers, after Mendoza's, 245 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,640 is that where you have him or are you spicier in either 246 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,480 direction? I have him at 7:00. 247 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,080 I have him also below KC Concepcion. 248 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,280 The thing with Sadiq is I won't be as extreme as some people. 249 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,240 I I don't need the production to be amazing. 250 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,160 He's younger than all these other tight ends were comparing 251 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,640 him to. The athleticism at least does 252 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,600 show up in the missed tackles forced statistics. 253 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,840 He's 4th all time among ground one tight ends and missed 254 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,200 tackles forced per game. That's with like Brock Bowers, 255 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,120 David and Joku, Tyler Warren, so a decent list of names. 256 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,000 All of his other production stuff comps very clearly to Noah 257 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,240 fan. So what I think like my 258 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,040 realistic comp is David and Joku with better draft capital. 259 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:00,080 That's not necessarily like a star fantasy tight end for most 260 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,080 of his career, but I think he'll be like a useful player in the 261 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,800 league that isn't like setting a first round dynasty rookie pick 262 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,240 on fire. So that's kind of the only way 263 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,520 he gets the 1:07 for me just cuz I don't want to rank anyone else 264 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,760 at 107 ultimately. But yeah, I'm I'm glad that 265 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,400 someone else is higher on Sadiq than me because I was a little 266 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:23,120 afraid I'd have to defend him. Like really like really fiercely 267 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,120 on the show. And I and I just hate being in 268 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,680 that position. I much prefer the NIT peeking 269 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,840 Sadiq position. Yeah, Jacob, anything else to to 270 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,440 add there? Not particularly. 271 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,600 I think it's been covered. Yeah, I have him seven, same as 272 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:38,800 Ryan. I think it's I think he's a 273 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,960 fascinating player. I think the fun part that you 274 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,960 get with Sadiq and why he'd be my 10 and one over stours is 275 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:46,520 just I think you do have the two paths. 276 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,800 Like he can either refine himself as a route runner and be 277 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,160 more that flex tight end, or he can potentially add some weight 278 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,680 since he's only 21 and he's a pretty physical guy and maybe he 279 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,160 can become that in line tight end. 280 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,760 Right now to me, he strikes me as a tweener and I'm I'm pretty 281 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,840 scared of the floor, but the ceiling is huge. 282 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,280 All right, Blair keeping it spicy as usual, we go. 283 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,760 Jeremiah, Love and then Sadiq to start off. 284 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:14,000 We will see who's picking at 3 here. 285 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:20,360 Looks like it's going to be Ron. Ron is on the clock at 103 here. 286 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,280 Awesome. I'm going to go Carnell Tate. 287 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,880 He is my wide receiver 1. He is my 1:02. 288 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,120 I guess it it it kind of sucks. We're we're in AI. 289 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,480 Don't know if you want to call it like the modern dynasty 290 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,600 landscape. I think four years ago Tyson 291 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,600 would have been the wide receiver one pre draft. 292 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,080 But yeah, I just like Tate. I I think his freshman year, 293 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,600 like he he at least popped a little bit in a stacked Ohio 294 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,480 State wide receiver room. I think he has over 3 yards per 295 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,640 outrun on his entire career, like high twos. 296 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,440 He's efficient. His year 2 and year three are 297 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,320 like perfectly fine in terms of receiving yards per team pass 298 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,240 attempt, including the fact that you play next to Jeremiah Smith, 299 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,400 Marvin Harrison junior as a freshman and Mecca Buka. 300 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,400 And I'm sure that there's guys in this wide receiver room we'll 301 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,080 talk about in two or three years that haven't popped, whether 302 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:12,080 that's like Brandon Innis or Milan Graham or Graham. 303 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,640 So I I like Cardinal Tate. He seems like the NFL really 304 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,040 likes him too, as like a top ten guy. 305 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,760 You're seeing him. The Jets might trade up from 16, 306 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,200 maybe, you know, maybe the 16th. It doesn't even happen. 307 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,080 We get Cardinal Tate. That would kind of have to. 308 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:26,600 Have selected him at the one O 3. 309 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,960 No, but in real life I would be happy in real life. 310 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,840 In real life I'd be stoked. I I would be stoked about that. 311 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,960 But he looks awesome. I I think genuinely like where a 312 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,840 conversation starts is I think he is as good, if not better 313 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,240 than like Tedoro McMillan as a prospect. 314 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,560 Like I think that he is that good top ten, really strong 315 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,360 outside receiver production. Like if Tedoro McMillan played 316 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,600 on Ohio State, I think that they would look very similar. 317 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,440 I guess one question I'd have for all of you guys. 318 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,680 How much is landing spot for these top three going to shuffle 319 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,320 them or does 1 profile rise? Above the one of them, one of 320 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,640 them could be a Cleveland Brown, and one of them could be a 321 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,200 Kansas City Chief and I'll. That's what I'll be. 322 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,680 I'll give away a hint that would personally change my rankings. 323 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,599 It wasn't a chief, and one of them was a Brown. 324 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,280 You'd prefer the guy on the Browns, right? 325 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:18,400 What? What? 326 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,560 Like, I guess so if Cardinal Tate gets selected by the Browns 327 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,280 at six, if someone wants to take the Tape Bowl case here, what 328 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,200 are you realistically hoping happens for him as a member of 329 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,760 the Cleveland? Browns I don't think the Browns 330 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,720 is anywhere close to the worst landing spot. 331 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,160 This is maybe a hot take, but I think you could do way worse 332 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,760 than the Browns. Like I would rather the Browns 333 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,040 than the Dolphins. I'd rather the Browns than The 334 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,040 Jets. Like you could, you could do 335 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,600 worse. If you're if you get drafted by 336 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,920 the Browns, you're instantly the wide receiver one right? 337 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,000 You're you're passing Jerry Judy the second you walk on the 338 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:55,040 practice field. And I, I do think like they at 339 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:59,560 the very least, like both Watson and Sanders have functioned as 340 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,320 like high drop back volume players either in in college or 341 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,440 a little bit towards at times last year. 342 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,640 And then Watson, you know, throughout most of his career. 343 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,480 So I think it's going to be inefficient and there's going to 344 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,680 be a lot of sacks and scrambles and it's going to be kind of 345 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,400 gross. But I do think you'll get some 346 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,000 drop back volume, whereas Miami's like the same deal. 347 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,080 You're you're the no question wide receiver one, but on like 348 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,280 370 drop backs potentially all season. 349 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,400 So I'll take Cleveland out of those two. 350 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,680 And either way, you're just hoping for a new quarterback in 351 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,120 in 2026 or 2027. So I don't think it's the stone 352 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:36,840 worst landing spot, but I do think the market will treat it 353 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,000 that way. I agree on your overall point 354 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,080 though. Like I think the top three wide 355 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,040 receivers were so close that I I like wrote a whole intro with 356 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,280 one planned wide receiver one and then I did the profiles and 357 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,800 then I changed my intro and like put someone else at the top. 358 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,280 So if someone goes to the Chiefs, they'll certainly be my 359 00:18:53,280 --> 00:19:00,360 wide receiver one. Blair, I mean Mr. Rotoviz built 360 00:19:00,360 --> 00:19:05,040 on the backs of rookie wide receivers and you discarded all 361 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,120 of them to the side quickly for Sadiq. 362 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,920 Is Tate still your your first of those guys or would you have a 363 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,880 different one? Tate is my wide receiver one, 364 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,200 but I so you know, I'll preface what I'm going to say next with 365 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,960 that. He's my wide receiver one, but I 366 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,880 think there are a lot of red flags with his profile, not only 367 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:30,120 in terms of kind of the production from a market share 368 00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:32,560 perspective wasn't quite where we wanted to be. 369 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,160 The bigger thing that I'm starting to look at a lot more 370 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,480 is a lot of the after tackle or after after first contact, after 371 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,360 contact metrics. And that's something where, for 372 00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:45,160 instance, Marvin Harrison didn't look good. 373 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,400 And one of the reasons that he, you know, you might have faded 374 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,400 him for that reason. And Tate is a little bit better 375 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,920 than Harrison actually, but basically just as bad. 376 00:19:54,920 --> 00:20:01,080 So yeah, it's a small thing. Tate is the only one of these 377 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,720 top guys who I think is going to still be 21 at the end of his 378 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,840 rookie season, which is big. And you got. 379 00:20:10,360 --> 00:20:12,600 I I might have missed the article, apologize if I had, But 380 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,160 will you expand a little bit on that after tackle stuff? 381 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,880 Is this like another one of those old school, you know, the, 382 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,000 the punt return game production kind of a, a sneaky thing that 383 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,240 might not be baked into draft capital or whatever? 384 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,560 Yeah. I can't point to a specific 385 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,360 article yet, maybe I'll have one coming up soon. 386 00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:38,240 But yeah, basically it's a way probably a way to get at some 387 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,040 athleticism that the some on field athleticism that the 388 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,480 combine doesn't quite account for. 389 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,600 And we've just seen a few cases of really high profile guys in 390 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,200 the past who have pretty poor after contact yardage 391 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:56,320 specifically, like, you know, catch the ball, they get hit and 392 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,400 fall down immediately. Yeah. 393 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,720 And that profile doesn't always translate. 394 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,160 So yeah, Harrison's one of those guys. 395 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,520 Quentin Johnson wasn't one of those guys, although he had 396 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,640 other red flags. But like, there have just been a 397 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,240 few of these. I I really like that because 398 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,600 it's kind of a way to measure dog and like how much of your 399 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:19,080 production was based off of getting schemed open or just 400 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,560 playing against, you know, future plumbers? 401 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,880 You know, how much of it was your quarterback being able to 402 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,280 find? I'd never really thought about 403 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,440 that before, but it it actually makes quite a bit of sense and 404 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,800 not at all surprising that Marvin Harrison Junior and 405 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,040 Carnell Tate would would maybe not be that good at at those 406 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,280 things. Ryan, any any Tate thoughts? 407 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,680 Yeah, I, I think I like Tate probably more than your average 408 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,240 like data type of guy. Similarly to what Jacob said, 409 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,280 all three of these top three wide receivers are so close for 410 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,800 me that I, I'm being very transparent and that yeah, my 411 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,200 rankings are going to change after the draft based on landing 412 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,360 spot. I don't usually like to do that 413 00:21:57,360 --> 00:22:01,360 with wide receivers, but they're all very close on the after 414 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,960 contact and after catch stuff. For Tate in particular, that 415 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,240 wasn't as big of a deal to me. And I, I can ask just what you 416 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,680 guys kind of think of this because it was also really bad 417 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,400 for Crystal Lava. It was also really bad for 418 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,080 Garrett Wilson. We've just kind of seen this 419 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,720 with these outside receivers coming from Ohio State over the 420 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,160 last few years. And that to me kind of says 421 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,720 maybe this is more to do with like the deployment, how they're 422 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,960 used. It wasn't the same for a Mecca 423 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,920 Ibuca, for JSN, for the guys that were playing in the slot. 424 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,240 We know that after catch production is related to average 425 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,000 depth of target to whether you're inside or on the outside. 426 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,560 So it it was like a very minor thing in Tate's profile for me. 427 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,160 He's not ultimately my wide receiver one. 428 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,280 I like a different guy. But yeah, it wasn't like a huge 429 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,840 red flag for me. All right, let's spin here and 430 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:58,000 see who is going to be that next wide receiver off the board, but 431 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,720 certainly sounds like Tate could easily get bumped from one O 3 432 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:05,680 for most people depending on how it goes, and Davis is back on 433 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,240 the clock with two top 4 picks here. 434 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,800 Yeah, I mean, this honestly, to me is like kind of a Sophie's 435 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,880 Choice because I want to rank Tate 3 amongst my wide 436 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,440 receivers. I just find his. 437 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,520 Fry of them. I just find his profile to be 438 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,240 underwhelming for some real reasons and then also like fake 439 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,720 reasons of like he was never the real wide receiver one on his 440 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,440 team which can be explained. Away. 441 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,560 Yeah, I, I know there are there are real reasons too. 442 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,680 And then there are reasons that are like more inflammatory and 443 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,760 are better to get people mad on Internet content. 444 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,720 I ultimately I'm, I'm gonna pivot a little bit here. 445 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,520 I'm gonna go Tyson actually over Mackay Lemon. 446 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:51,720 I'm gonna go Jordan, Tyson, the, I mean, the modeling that I did. 447 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,440 Is it 'cause he keeps getting mocked to the Chiefs? 448 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,320 I think I think they're honestly, I think Tyson and 449 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,400 Lemon are both equally likely to go to Kansas City. 450 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,120 I I think both of them fit a profile of what Veitch has shown 451 00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:05,000 that he likes. I I don't I don't Tate honestly, 452 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,720 of the three seems the least cheap see in in terms of wide 453 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,840 receiver. So in my modeling, Tyson, even 454 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,000 with the disparate draft capital, actually showed up as 455 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,360 the number one guy in this class because of the crazy early 456 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:25,880 season or crazy early career production. 457 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:31,080 And I am basically, and maybe this will be a bad opinion, I'm 458 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,520 not really persuaded by the injury stuff. 459 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,720 Torn ACLMCLPCL. But then he came back and 460 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,720 played. Then he broke his collarbone. 461 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,320 Then he injured his hamstring. These are just normal injuries 462 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,680 that could happen to anyone. This is not like, oh, he tore 463 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:51,320 the same knee three times or he he broke his wrist and then he 464 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,440 broke his wrist again. And now he plays with a big 465 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,400 bulky brace on his wrist that might limit his ability to 466 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,360 generate catchers in traffic. Like it just kind of feels like 467 00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:03,400 bad luck and that just happens and frankly, I can think of 468 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,960 other hamstring injuries that have limited wide receiver 469 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,840 prospects in the draft process before and it totally ended up 470 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,680 being a non factored at this stage. 471 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,280 Do we even remember that Jackson Smith the jig but did not play 472 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,200 his junior season. Does anyone does it? 473 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,000 Is that does that ever enter into the conversation that he 474 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,880 just said I'm out, I'm not playing. 475 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,760 I don't care like I'm good. I'm I'm going to get I'm going 476 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,160 to get drafted. So Tyson for me is, is right now 477 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,760 my wide receiver one and I'm I'm taking him here. 478 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,400 Ron, how do you rank these three wide receivers? 479 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,320 I have Tyson too. I do have Tate pretty firmly one 480 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,560 but I like Tyson as well. I'll I'll say to Davis's point 481 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:50,880 of the no show as a senior only makes like it only doesn't make 482 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,200 sense because he could have just declared after his junior year 483 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,440 like JSN 3 years and then he was gone. 484 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,600 He had. The broken. 485 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,040 Clavicle. He broke his collarbone the year 486 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,440 before. But if JSN had like hamstring 487 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,560 issues and then he went, you don't think he could have got 488 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,160 like second round capital after? Junior well, I think he could 489 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,600 have gotten second round capital, but I think that the I 490 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,880 think the broken so he broke his collarbone in the Big 12 491 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,360 championship game against Iowa State for for less for you more 492 00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:18,640 for the audience. If people aren't up on the Tyson 493 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,200 medicals, I think he probably would have declared as my guess. 494 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,760 But with that happening so close to the end of the season, I I 495 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,120 think he would have probably Hanford his ability to train for 496 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:31,440 the combine to work out and so so like it's pretty reasonable 497 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,360 possibility would have fallen from round one to Round 2 and 498 00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:35,440 was. Also a better. 499 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,440 Class come back. Last year, right just. 500 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,800 Like it was overall class and also the team looked like it was 501 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,480 gonna be good. Like they lost, yeah, scattaboo. 502 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,680 But they get Levitt back, Tyson comes back. 503 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,320 They just made the playoff. I think the hope was like, OK, 504 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,960 you know, that sucks. I'll come back. 505 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,760 We're gonna be another, we're gonna win the Big 12 again and 506 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,520 then I'll be a first round pick. And the first part of that 507 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,560 didn't work cuz Levitt gets hurt and Tyson gets hurt. 508 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,400 But I I think he probably would have been a pretty high draft 509 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,640 pick. He also, so he also got a huge 510 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:07,120 paycheck from Adidas as as part of like NIL. 511 00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:10,680 So like he was sure he's giving up some money, but it's not 512 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,920 like, oh, if you know, if things go poorly for me, I'm broke. 513 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,120 It's like, no, he like the nil does kind of change the early. 514 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,040 I mean, we're seeing it a lot with running backs, but it does 515 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,480 change the calculus for these guys on leaving or staying when 516 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,280 it's, when it's that close. I, I think. 517 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,280 And, and he got, I mean, I can't find an exact number, but I 518 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,520 would assume signing an NIL deal with Adidas means 5,000,006 519 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,600 million, something like that, in addition to whatever the Arizona 520 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,360 State boosters are paying. And that was a big conversation 521 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:41,360 was Arizona State. The reason why they kind of rose 522 00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:45,720 to prominence out of nowhere was what's their coach's name? 523 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,080 Dillingham. Dillingham, he brought in, he 524 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,320 brought in a ton of nil money when when he came. 525 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,960 So I I think that definitely relates to the Tyson stuff. 526 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,560 Yeah, that's fair. I kind of was shaky on the 527 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,240 timing there in terms because he didn't coach the same way that 528 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,120 JSN did, but he he at least did something in his final year. 529 00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:06,320 He tried, he just screwed up his hamstring and then he missed 530 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,000 about a month and then he came back and he reaggravated it and 531 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,040 like probably shouldn't have came back honestly, But I I love 532 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,160 Tyson. Hence I'm doing like Tyson legal 533 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,480 defense over here. He's he's my wide receiver one. 534 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:22,480 He'd do my 1:02. And I think he, he just to me 535 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,880 has like very decisively the best production profile in the 536 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,160 Class A career average of a 31% targets per run, which is 537 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,560 preposterous. Has the best freshman production 538 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,880 out of any of the top three, has the best peak season, 3.42 yards 539 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,640 per team pass attempt in that third year. 540 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,040 If you want to pick nits, I think there's like 2 or maybe 541 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,160 three things that I, I see, you know, one I see numerically is, 542 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,040 is he has yak concerns similarly to Cardinal Tate. 543 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,840 And I think that's a a legitimate concern. 544 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:57,720 But like, I think he's similar in play style, bigger but 545 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,520 similar in play style to like a Devonta Smith crystalave where 546 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,080 he's going to be a slot flanker. I think you can live with a lack 547 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,640 of yak juice there. The the film concerns that I 548 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,880 keep hearing one I care about and one I've just decided to not 549 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,840 one is like, OK, he has some issues beating press coverage. 550 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,880 I I care about that. I think that means you probably 551 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,640 care a little bit more about where he plays. 552 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:19,840 You don't want him playing at Axe. 553 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,920 The other thing is that people are saying there's too much 554 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,840 sauce on his routes, you know, and that's a, that's a complaint 555 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,640 that exists. It applies to like a Garrett 556 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,480 Wilson, a DJ Moore and other people. 557 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,240 But that is not the kind of complaint that's going to get me 558 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,960 off of a really elite production profile. 559 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,440 Like I haven't heard from anyone and I haven't seen on tape any 560 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,960 reason to suggest that he can't separate. 561 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,680 Like, it's like we're dealing with a Nikhil Harry here. 562 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,040 We're dealing with, you know, a player who has some separation 563 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,200 skills that maybe could use some refinement. 564 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,840 I think that's something that either gets coached out or 565 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:49,960 something that you just live with. 566 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,560 And I, I just struggle to see an argument for why I would sort of 567 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,080 push away what to me at least is, is pretty clearly the most 568 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,640 impressive production profile. So I'm I'm pretty huge on on 569 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,320 Tyson. All right, let's spin the wheel 570 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:09,440 here and I'll be interested to see if we have a a consensus at 571 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,440 one O 5 or if anyone wants to break ranks. 572 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,640 But we're going to keep rolling here with Jacob's thoughts on 573 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,360 the wide receiver class potentially or a little Mendoza 574 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,880 here. Yeah, it's an easy pick for me. 575 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,240 So I have I have the three receivers in the same tier and 576 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,480 two of them are gone. So I get my wide receiver 2IN 577 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,960 the class is the remaining one, which is Makai Lemon out of USCI 578 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,800 have all the wide receivers in a tier clear of Mendoza. 579 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,520 Personally, I just think that the ceiling that you're getting 580 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,160 on a non rushing quarterback that I'm not totally in love 581 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,240 with is not as likely to manifest in different speaking 582 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,560 production early in your career as you're going to get with the 583 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,920 receivers or potentially with one of the tight ends. 584 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,640 So yeah, easy choice for me to go with Lemonier. 585 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,320 I think he has the most impressive per route profile of 586 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,240 the top three. The overall volume profile is a 587 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,520 little bit underwhelming, but I I think he fits the fantasy game 588 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,600 particularly well. And and that's why I give him 589 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,800 the slight nudge over Tate. Like, I think Tate's a little 590 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,640 bit stronger of a prospect in a vacuum. 591 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,320 He's who I would take if I was running an NFL team. 592 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,920 But I do get concerned that the the line between like the George 593 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,040 Pickens, T Higgins archetype, it's been really successful. 594 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,200 Those both line up in high volume spots with really strong 595 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,040 quarterbacks. What if Tate is either in a 596 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,120 slightly worse situation than that as this vertical X receiver 597 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,320 or is just a little bit less effective? 598 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,120 Like what if he's just Roma Doomsay? 599 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,320 What if he's, you know, Marvin Harrison junior and you're just 600 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,280 struggling to get the fantasy value relative to the NFL 601 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,280 capital? I think Lemon is just safer 602 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,600 because he's just going to be able to consistently crank out 603 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:54,000 that intermediate production. Ryan, based on how these picks 604 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,640 have gone, you and I are the ones who just always win this 605 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,240 league. We always have the late picks. 606 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,000 So, so don't worry about it. Is is this the the three you 607 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,920 said you were highest on? Tate, is this your order as 608 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,600 well? I'm actually highest on Tyson. 609 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,120 So my order is Tyson, then Tate, then Mackay, Lemon. 610 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,040 As I said, I like all three. The reason that I'm the lowest 611 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:18,720 on Lemon is I guess twofold. 1 is that I I think Tate doesn't 612 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,280 get quite enough credit for the just the target competition 613 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,640 angle. If we're talking per route, he 614 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,600 was at over 3 yards per hour run playing next to Jeremiah Smith 615 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,280 for comparison to Mecca Buca when he was two years older was 616 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,160 down at 2.5 I believe somewhere in that range. 617 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,360 So I give Tate a lot of per route credit for this past 618 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,520 season. And also with Lemon. 619 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,000 It's just, and this is really tricky pre draft before we know 620 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,080 what team he's on. How much this ultimately 621 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,320 matters, but just these prospects that project much more 622 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,240 as like slot only receivers. Yes, it can be fantasy friendly, 623 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,640 but there's not always going to be a good NFL fit there. 624 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,680 If he goes to a team that's just going to live in 11 personnel, 625 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,480 then I'm not going to care about this at all. 626 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,920 But you also kind of have the issue in college. 627 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,040 Slot production is just more variant. 628 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,800 It's hard. It just should lower your 629 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,680 confidence of any guys production profile when he's 630 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,720 having 42% of his career receiving yards on screens and 631 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,960 slot fades. Other round one guys that are 632 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,520 around that area for that lemon is are Jalen Waddle, Cadarius, 633 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,240 Tony Jordan, Addison, Jameson Williams, trail on Burks, Jerry 634 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,520 Judy. Like it's very much a mixed bag. 635 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,760 You can't always take that production at face value for a 636 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,920 player like Lemon. That said, I fully agree with 637 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,760 all the pro arguments that Jacob laid out. 638 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,680 This is just me nitpicking figuring out who's going to be 639 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,800 wide receiver 123. That's where I end up on Lemon 640 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,240 right now. Ron, you mentioned before like 641 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,280 liking Tate a little bit more than, say, Ted Arroyo. 642 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,760 Like, how do these three stack up for you with just, you know, 643 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,160 I don't know, past five years, these round one wide receivers 644 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,040 who have all gone, you know, top 15. 645 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,200 I think that I'm a little bit different from consensus where I 646 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,719 would put Tate up there with like Ted Arroyo McMillan as like 647 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,159 as like a fringe top ten guy that I think is very strong. 648 00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:13,679 And then I would probably put Tyson and Makai Lemon more 649 00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:19,520 towards your like mid to late NFL first round pick, you know, 650 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,400 kind of like I would say like slightly better than like Jordan 651 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,520 Madison, like strong, you know, fine receivers. 652 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,480 But that's just because I really like Tate, if I'm being honest. 653 00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:31,400 And I think Ryan brought up a good point that I was honestly 654 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,760 curious here because I know that JJ Zach Reese has done a lot of 655 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,480 work on kind of like the slot receiver going away this year. 656 00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:39,400 Obviously, like JSN was just an absolute monster as like a slot 657 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,440 dominant guy. But I think like close secure 658 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:43,639 Josh Downs. I'm not saying that that's 659 00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:46,800 Mikhail Lemon, his base outcome, but it's definitely something 660 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,760 that you think about with somebody who's a slot dominant 661 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,280 player in terms of like their downside. 662 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,560 I just don't think that any team is going to take. 663 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,160 I mean, he's going to go. If he fell in the draft, I would 664 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,800 change my ranking, but the expectation is he's going to go 665 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,360 in the midfirst. I don't think any team is taking 666 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,760 him in the midfirst to play him on 70% of the roads. 667 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,960 I just don't think that that's particularly likely unless he's 668 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,960 just a bust, which it doesn't matter anyway. 669 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,360 But I don't, I don't, I don't see a scenario where he's 670 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,280 effective as an NFL player. A-Team takes him that highly and 671 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,240 that's the plan is to use him in that limited of a fashion. 672 00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:23,760 So I expect him to play the slot re receiver sets and flanker and 673 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,640 two wide receiver sets. Blair, what would you with these 674 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,280 three? I guess you could go 1 by 1. 675 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,560 Would you take one of these guys or would you take Ted Arroyo 676 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,560 like straight up, I guess getting like the re roll on on 677 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,000 the rookie? Yeah, that's a good question. 678 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,680 I recently published a thing on the Phenom index, which is a 679 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,480 thing that John Moore did years ago. 680 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:58,800 I wrote of his and looking at this class basically a way to 681 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,320 account for age adjusted production. 682 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,160 But this class in particular is way weaker than even last year. 683 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,880 Like Macmillan is ahead of Tate in that metric. 684 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,160 And I think obviously that's not the only way to look at it. 685 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,960 It's kind of just one number. But you know, when you're 686 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,600 evaluating or when I'm evaluating this class, I'm 687 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,080 trying to compare them against each other. 688 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,400 I'm like, well, OK, yeah, Tate's probably better than Tyson, but 689 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,560 there are a lot of, there are a lot of kind of red flags to be 690 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,560 aware of with all these guys. So I might have McMillan ahead 691 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,240 of all three, but it's close, yeah. 692 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,480 Yep, Davis, any final thoughts on on these three? 693 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,120 Would you entertain a Mendoza over any of them? 694 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,920 Are they all a lock free over Mendoza? 695 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,040 No, I mean it would it would obviously depend on your league 696 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,600 situation. Like if like, oh, I actually 697 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,640 have a pretty good team, but I just have run bad at 698 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:54,880 quarterbacks and I just kind of need a 14.7 fantasy points per 699 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,520 game quarterback in a superflex league. 700 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,560 I would do that. I mean, I can I can say a skin 701 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,320 in the game answer, which is I'm in a league that I had the 1:05 702 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,840 I was the champion last year, had the 105 via another trade 703 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,320 and I told the league no freaking way am I making this 704 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,880 pick. I'm shipping it for veteran 705 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,480 points immediately and woke up this morning to a shiny new Aman 706 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,600 Raj St. Brown with the 1:05 and the 2027 707 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,520 first. So I, I just, I, I basically my, 708 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,840 my carte blanche answer for picks this year is if my team is 709 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,720 anywhere from the 1st to the 5th best team in the league, they're 710 00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:34,360 they're out the door, they're gone. 711 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,640 I'm not making the pick. I'm I'm going to get someone 712 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,960 who's old and good and going to get me fantasy points. 713 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,240 I like this top three I think more than than some. 714 00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:46,000 I like the fourth guy too but I I would take tat over. 715 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,000 I I like him just fine. Both both as a prospect and then 716 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,440 more importantly, just we've seen proof of concept that 717 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,520 Tetaro McMillan is actually good, right? 718 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,800 I mean, maybe it's not the 98th percentile outcome, but it's 719 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,120 certainly, I think like in a 70th to 80th to 85th percentile 720 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,040 rookie season from him. So yeah, I would take him over 721 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,480 anyone in this class except Love. 722 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,720 All right, we will spin again. Here we go. 723 00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:13,320 Jeremiah Love, Blair goes rogue early, Kenyan Siddique. 724 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,720 And then we get the three wide receivers off the board, Carnell 725 00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:18,240 Tate, Jordan Tyson and Makai Lemon. 726 00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:22,400 And Ron is back on the clock here. 727 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,720 I mean, his Jets would kill for Fernando Mendoza, but would, 728 00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:29,320 would, would Ron kill? I was, I was literally just 729 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,400 thinking that it's like how appropriate that Ron gets to 730 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,600 pick Fernando Mendoza. I would do sick things for 731 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:39,800 Fernando Mendoza. I I would debate pinkies. 732 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,520 I would because that's really where that that's where it all 733 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,600 comes with Mendoza is for fantasy or like, like Mendoza, 734 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,640 whatever. And then there's also a certain, 735 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,280 there's almost like the college football Twitter verse that's 736 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,520 like, oh, this is a weak Heisman. 737 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,880 Like Mendoza sucks. I think the kid was awesome this 738 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,280 year. Like he he genuinely played 739 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:58,480 amazing. There were games where Indiana 740 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,240 blow teams out and didn't really have to rely on him to throw or 741 00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:04,320 whatever. I also think, look, I'm not I'm 742 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,400 not in rooms with him. I have never interviewed 743 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,480 Mendoza, but I think that he like, I think he leaves, you 744 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,480 know, combine interview rooms and like everybody lights up. 745 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,360 Like just the way that the guy talks, you see him, you know, 746 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,640 he's like, I think he said like we're flipping national 747 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,480 champions. Like I, I do just love the 748 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,360 intangibles with the Mendoza. I know that this is like so far 749 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,000 outside the spreadsheet realm that a lot of us are operating 750 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,880 in, but he does just like if someone was going to come to The 751 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,440 Jets and turn them around, it would be Mendoza. 752 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,520 I think you could do that for the Raiders. 753 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,280 Like from a real life standpoint, I think that he is a 754 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,440 really strong first overall pick, a really good player. 755 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,200 I don't know what that looks like with Kubiak. 756 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,440 I don't know what that looks like in a Raiders uniform with 757 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,680 Trey Tucker as like his outside receiver. 758 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,440 I know Brock Bowers is there and everything. 759 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,600 So yeah, it's tough because when we're playing dynasty, 760 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,680 especially in like a four point passing touchdown league, you 761 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,280 can just get Jared Gofford cheaper and he could score the 762 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,600 same amount of points, probably more points over the next, you 763 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,480 know, four years. So it becomes a really tough 764 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,000 dichotomy of like. What's the point of really ever 765 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,720 pressing the draft button on Mendoza? 766 00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:10,240 But we have seen the CJ Stroud thing. 767 00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:12,040 We've seen the Justin, it's like, I know Justin Herbert's a 768 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,880 freak athlete, whatever, but he chose not to run for a good 769 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,000 portion of his career where that could be the case. 770 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,600 Maybe he throws 25 touchdowns. He he blows everyone's socks off 771 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,120 and then is a first, you know, 1-2 turn startup pick. 772 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,720 And that's that's in his range of outcomes. 773 00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:30,280 So it's more a value play than really anything else. 774 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,280 And I and I guess there's some safety there where we see with 775 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,760 Kim Ward, like his, I think he was like the QB 16 when he was 776 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,960 drafted and he's the QB 16 today in dynasty. 777 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,640 Like these guys just don't really lose value unless if they 778 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,960 are like, holy shit, this guy sucks like a like a Zach Wilson. 779 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,480 I don't think that's really in his range. 780 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,800 And I do think this one's tricky because like Davis said, like 781 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,120 this kind of pick often comes down to to team needs. 782 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,520 But I guess the question is, are there any of you who would just 783 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,520 take KC Concepcione or another wide receiver whoever in this 784 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,400 spot and just say I? I'm not dealing with Mendoza. 785 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:07,280 Team needs be damned. Not pre draft but I think I said 786 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,960 in my rookie rankings the other day that there's a higher chance 787 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,880 I have Concepcion ranked ahead of Mendoza post draft than 788 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,560 Mendoza ranked ahead of one of the other 3. 789 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,560 Do you, do you guys care at all that this is like not gonna be 790 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,640 reflective of the market when you do your rankings? 791 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,840 Like Mendoza's ADP across all like money leagues is gonna be 792 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,680 like 1.27. I don't care because we've been 793 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,280 doing this for years where like these quarterbacks come in that 794 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,720 I think are egregiously overdrafted and every year I've 795 00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:38,040 had like the same 4 paragraph rant about why I think that 796 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,520 they're terrible picks at ADP and the market doesn't change. 797 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,120 But I, I just, I'm not participating in it. 798 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,960 I. Think it depends on the league. 799 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,480 I mean, Jacob plays in a lot of expert leagues. 800 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,040 I'm not participating in the market is so is such a good 801 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,160 honestly, it's a great tagline for this show just in general, 802 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,720 just like we we're actively choosing not to participate in 803 00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:03,520 it. I don't know, like am I that 804 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,760 upset that I missed out on drafting Bryce Young? 805 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,360 Like am I that sad that I that I skipped out on Cam Ward? 806 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,520 Like, I'm pretty content actually, honestly. 807 00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:12,960 You, you probably like over the long term. 808 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,680 You. You probably are because you 809 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,240 probably draft a lot of shitty wide receivers instead of like 810 00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:21,360 Daniel Jones and shit. Like, no, I don't I the the the, 811 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,880 the return on investment. Like there's a there's a theory 812 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,520 that the floor on these quarterbacks is high. 813 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,880 I think that's just dead wrong. Like Cam Ward was terrible last 814 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:29,840 year. I think he's going to bust out 815 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,600 of the NFL before the end of his first contract. 816 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,480 We'll see, but he certainly hasn't been a great pick so far. 817 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,440 Provided 0 fantasy value last year. 818 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,800 The previous year we had who who is the 2024 crew. 819 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,080 So that's a really good quarterback here. 820 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,160 I was in on the guys that run like Caleb May Daniels. 821 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,680 That's a different category of group. 822 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,000 And then the guys are cheaper. So it's not really as great of a 823 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,440 fit because the other guys go late. 824 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:55,560 But like the young Stroud, like Stroud, huge hit if you got him 825 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,320 and then sold him. Not a huge hit if you got him 826 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,840 and kept them young. Just bad kind of all around. 827 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,960 You know, look at the guys that were going around like you could 828 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,240 have Jimmy or Gibbs, you could have had JSN, you could have had 829 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,360 Brock Bowers. Like it's just our that's 24 830 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,040 year, whatever. You go back further. 831 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,840 It's like there was the year where we had Lawrence, which has 832 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,880 eventually come around. But like fields Lance again, I 833 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,000 think it's more worth taking a shot on the runners. 834 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:24,800 But like those picks were disasters. 835 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,000 Zach Wilson super disaster. So like I, I don't know, I, I 836 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,520 just don't think that the floor is that high. 837 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,560 I think the ceiling is high on quarterbacks. 838 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,880 So if you want to talk me into, you know, a runner and you're 839 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,600 saying, Hey, I might, this might not work out, but this is a 840 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,520 chance to be a first round start up pick. 841 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,480 I, I can hear that argument. I, I just really struggle with 842 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,240 the argument of like, we're drafting pocket passing rookie 843 00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:48,960 quarterbacks for floor. Cuz to me if if that's what 844 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,840 you're doing, just trade the pick for Jared Goff. 845 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,680 I'm not, I'm not, I'm not disagreeing with you. 846 00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:02,080 I'm, I'm, I'm just saying that in general, I, I do think, I 847 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,080 think the thing, well, Ron's accusing me of being out of 848 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,000 touch, I think. You're out of touch. 849 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,480 I don't think it's going to be. I don't think he'll be one O 2 850 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,600 in a majority of leagues. Well, I get maybe I am out of 851 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:10,760 touch. I. 852 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,960 Think like the FFPC boomer 1 sure, but I'm like sleeper all 853 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,280 of the you know on it like flocking everybody, the guys who 854 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,560 are kind of. Hey, hey, be careful. 855 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,840 What you I'm? Saying I'm saying boss that. 856 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,120 Way of the. ADP. 857 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,920 I'm saying the cabal of the ADP. So none of those. 858 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,720 Guys have Mendoza one O 2 besides. 859 00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:37,720 Anti cabal. So I'm saying I'll give you the 860 00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:39,080 evidence. Influence everything. 861 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,240 I'll give you the evidence from a league I'm in right now. 862 00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:45,440 First round of a league with Barry Graham, Barfield, Danny 863 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,200 Kelly, bunch of the bunch of the bunch of industry people. 864 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,800 The draft went love, then Graham took Tate which is hilarious cuz 865 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,960 Graham's team is terrible. So I think he just was I think 866 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,280 he's just like I need anything. And then Mendoza went ahead of 867 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,840 Lemon, Tyson, Concepcion and. One it's pre. 868 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:06,840 Draft and two, it's like like super niche for what we do. 869 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,240 Like experts. Like, I think in your normal 870 00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:11,960 sleeper league, people aren't gonna be crazy about Mendoza 871 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:12,920 people. Kind of hate Mendoza. 872 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,320 OK, OK, OK. Ryan, how about this? 873 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,080 Kyle's asking, can we talk about the Mendoza ceiling? 874 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,960 Like what are we looking at? What are you dreaming on if you 875 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:28,200 do pull the trigger on him at? 5 or earlier this is what I'll 876 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,240 answer the question and then I'll go back to the QB value 877 00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:32,720 thing cuz I do have thoughts on that. 878 00:45:33,240 --> 00:45:36,120 I don't think the Mendoza ceiling is that great, at least 879 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,480 in the short term, just because we we kind of just saw a 880 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,480 quarterback play really well in a Clint Kubiak offense. 881 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,080 His name was Sam Darnold. They went and won a Super Bowl 882 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,400 and he was a mid range QB 2 for fantasy football. 883 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,040 Like the passing volume just wasn't there. 884 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,680 When you talk about the boroughs, the Dax, these are 885 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,360 guys that are finishing top three and drop backs every 886 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,760 single year. I just don't see that being like 887 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,360 what a Kubiak regime wants to set out and do. 888 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,800 So I don't think the value ceiling or the fantasy point 889 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,480 ceiling is really there. I will say I largely agree with 890 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,880 everything that Jacob just said about quarterback value in 891 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,160 Dynasty Superflex. I do think that the more boomer 892 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:21,360 your league, the less liquid quarterbacks actually are, the 893 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,040 harder it is to trade for quarterbacks. 894 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,520 I'm in a few of these boomer leagues. 895 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,640 You cannot trade for a freaking quarterback. 896 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,720 Sometimes you are going to be forced to sit there at the 103 897 00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:32,920 and hit that button. I never want to do it, but I, I 898 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,000 can understand it. I will never be ranking Mendoza 899 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,400 above Tate, Tyson or Lemon. I, I think basically no matter 900 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,680 what happens on draft night, that that's how I view his value 901 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,640 and everything. But I, I do get it if you're 902 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,520 just completely, all sides are blocked around you. 903 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,120 Nobody's trading quarterbacks no matter what. 904 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,520 I would understand it if you're just kind of forced to make that 905 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,640 pick. Your team has no quarterbacks. 906 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,040 It's a corollary though, to what Ryan said, which I agree with. 907 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,240 Like it's really hard to trade for a quarterback when you don't 908 00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:05,560 have one. I also think it's pretty hard to 909 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,640 trade away a quarterback when you don't need one. 910 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,520 Like most teams in your dynasty league have exactly the amount 911 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,680 of quarterbacks that they want and they don't want to trade 1 912 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,200 of theirs away and they don't want to trade for one of yours. 913 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,680 Like they they're content to have their two and then a crappy 914 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,200 3rd and they're good with it. And like I've had teams like my 915 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,080 like home league team I have like I have Josh Allen, Drake 916 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,280 May, Trevor Lawrence, and I've had Geno Smith as my 4th 917 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,680 quarterback for like 3 years and I've just been begging like will 918 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,280 anyone trade me like a third round pick for Geno Smith Like 919 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,280 I'm never going to. Start get in the league with me 920 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,240 buddy. I love to buy these dudes and 921 00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:40,400 it's like. I just, I literally just dropped 922 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,600 them. I just had to drop them. 923 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,280 Like I now have Malik Willis who's been sitting on my bench 924 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,360 and now it's like I have like a curse of like another 925 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,160 theoretical asset just sitting there collecting dust. 926 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,840 So I, I, I, if you, if you're in the spot where Ryan said and you 927 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,960 do need the quarterback, like sure, take Mendoz. 928 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,920 I, I just, I often hear people be like that don't need 929 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,000 quarterbacks, like I'll just take the quarterback and then I 930 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,040 have a trade ship. It's like, I don't, I don't know 931 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,800 that you do. If, if you're experiencing your 932 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,000 league is that you do go for it. But I don't know how many 933 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,840 because you're, you're really reducing the market because 934 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,280 every team in your league probably has some theoretical 935 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,800 need for running backs or receivers, but there's probably 936 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,360 only one or two teams in your league that really has a need 937 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,600 for a quarterback. And so it's a little harder to 938 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,520 trade. Yeah, I, I also think like as 939 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,040 probably the most casual dynasty player here of the panel, 940 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,160 there's also the element of, you know, you often talk about how 941 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,600 well some of these guys hold value. 942 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,320 And if you time the window perfectly even after a so so 943 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,960 year one, and then you can dump him for equal value. 944 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,400 Like if you know you're not going to be an active dynasty 945 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,520 manager too, that might even impact like how willing you are 946 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,520 to play the hot potato games with some of these assets as 947 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,160 opposed to a wide receiver whose value you know, might be able to 948 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,720 accrue over a longer timeline and not acquire you playing the 949 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,640 the trade market. But Blair, do you have any, any 950 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,280 thoughts on Mendoza before we move on? 951 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,840 Nothing really to add except I probably am even less, probably 952 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,760 less in the camp that team needs should dictate what you do then 953 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,200 then everyone else. I basically think if you don't 954 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,080 have Mendoza ranked above any of these guys or even some of the 955 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,920 guys who are coming after who we haven't picked yet, even if you 956 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,080 need a quarterback, I'm not sure it makes sense to take him just 957 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,320 to fill that positional spot. I think there are other ways to 958 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,400 address that that might help your team more in the long run. 959 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,120 Yeah, and especially because like, you know, depending on 960 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,000 your league settings, I, I know even in my super flex leagues, 961 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,400 like you'll occasionally be able to get the guy on the waivers 962 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,480 who's getting the spot start, who pops up. 963 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,120 You know, Davis mentioned or one of you guys mentioned like the 964 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,160 Jared Goff, the like boring veteran stuff. 965 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,960 Like if the ceiling of Fernando Mendoza doesn't exceed those 966 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,760 types that are kind of available in a lot of leagues or that type 967 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,160 of production that team need can be addressed. 968 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,600 And you're probably just making a hasty decision to feel a 969 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,520 little more comforted in the moment when you could probably 970 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,160 replace that production on the cheap later. 971 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,040 I think Kyle raised a a really reasonable question, which is he 972 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,360 was saying he's not following why he's not that far off of the 973 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,000 luck. Burrow T lies closer to that 974 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,920 than a young Cam. I mean Burrow. 975 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,560 I would extricate from that group because he he doesn't run 976 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,280 as much as the other two. Burrow his he's a Unicorn really 977 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,280 in in a dynasty world where I think he's getting there from 978 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,520 just being the best passer in the NFL. 979 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,520 He runs, I don't think. He's at his peak. 980 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,080 He runs a little, but like very little. 981 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,920 Mendoza's never had a 10% rushing yards market share. 982 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,720 It's a 2.9% clean pocket scramble rate. 983 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,400 So this this just doesn't profile the way that. 984 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,240 People, people, just remember the one. 985 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,440 Rush Profile. He did have a College Football 986 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:42,760 Playoff. Game, the championship game, it 987 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,520 was damn good. Like he he is relatively mobile 988 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,280 and he is big. So yeah, maybe you get some goal 989 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,200 line stuff, but he just has never shown the proclivity to 990 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,000 run in college, and that tends to be pretty darn sticky coming 991 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,000 into the NFL. So if you want to buy that he's 992 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,320 going to run more in the NFLI mean, feel free. 993 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:00,960 I can't tell you it's not going to happen. 994 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,480 I just think it's statistically unlikely to happen when you have 995 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,200 a guy who has such a limited rushing profile in college. 996 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,720 We're going to pick up the pace here a little bit, which should 997 00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:15,600 be easy because stuff starts to get a lot less interesting as we 998 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,760 head further down here. Ryan and I will continue to stay 999 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,720 sidelined here and Ron, much like his Jets, will continue to 1000 00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:27,240 stay on the clock. Yeah, and if they took this guy 1001 00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:29,000 at 16, I'm sure you guys would love it too. 1002 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:35,400 I'll take Casey Concepcion. I like him because I think that 1003 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,000 he's one of these guys that's up in the air, whether he's an 1004 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,600 analytics or film guy, because film guys seem to love him and 1005 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:41,840 then they're like, oh, what the spreadsheets take. 1006 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,960 Concepcion because he has a low, he has like a high drop rate. 1007 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,520 And it's like that's not what we're looking at. 1008 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,360 His freshman year. Awesome. 1009 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,400 His second year is kind of like so so he goes to Texas A&M, 1010 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,400 still commands a good chunk of that offense. 1011 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,080 He doesn't have the same, you know, Tyson has a monster peak 1012 00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,760 and Makai Lemon's year 3 is awesome. 1013 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,280 Concepcion, if you want to age adjust, you could call that his 1014 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,400 freshman season, but he's just solid overall. 1015 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,160 And these film guys like level, like I know the underdog guys, 1016 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,520 Josh Norris, Wings. I have like wide receiver two. 1017 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:12,720 I'm not saying that I have this smile. 1018 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,560 Receiver 2. Dog, I would Blair. 1019 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,440 I bet he looks good in your dog rankings. 1020 00:52:17,720 --> 00:52:19,720 In. The in the mid tackles force and 1021 00:52:19,720 --> 00:52:22,080 yak stuff. Yeah, miss cycles force. 1022 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,600 He also I I think like I don't have the stats off hand, but I I 1023 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,000 want to say his freshman year he might have had like 40 carries 1024 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,080 like 100 like somewhere between 40 to 100. 1025 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:33,320 He did he which I know JJ Zach Griesen has in his model. 1026 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,720 That's it's not like, oh, if you rush for 1000 yards, that's 1027 00:52:35,720 --> 00:52:37,520 awesome, but it's like. I've got a little bit, I've got 1028 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,880 it in mind and it boosts him up a good bit. 1029 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,920 Yeah, so it's just like, get this guy the ball in space while 1030 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,920 he he started at NC State and it's just like, all right, this 1031 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,560 guy's the best player here. Like just give him the ball over 1032 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,320 and over again. When you look at reception 1033 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,640 perception, like 92nd percentile versus man, 81st zone, 87 1034 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,440 percentile versus press, if that's your kind of thing. 1035 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,880 The film guys love him. I think the numbers look really 1036 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,160 good as well. Like he he's a very strong he he 1037 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,520 to me, he's closer to the top three than he is the next tier 1038 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:05,400 of guys. He's really good. 1039 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,320 If you wanted to have him over Mendoza, you absolutely could. 1040 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,520 Is for Is there anyone here who wouldn't have taken Casey 1041 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:19,680 Concepcion at this pic Blair. Everyone else is shaking their 1042 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,200 head. And that, Mister Kenyon Siddiq 1043 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:26,800 at too, is like. Well, well, yeah, we'll get to 1044 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,280 the guy that I might. Consider. 1045 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,680 All right, let's spin. Then it seems like a a fairly 1046 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,600 uncontroversial spot, especially cuz he's gonna probably go back 1047 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,600 into round one to a team with a decent quarterback. 1048 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,400 We're gonna find out what guy he was gonna. 1049 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,400 Be here we go. Well, part of the reason I 1050 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:48,160 didn't wanna say is because if I'm, if I'm making my picks like 1051 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,880 as if I'm constructing one team, then I've kind of painted myself 1052 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,240 into a, into a corner here because I think the next guy is 1053 00:53:55,240 --> 00:53:58,760 Stowers. Yeah, let's go, let's go. 1054 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,280 Do that. So let's don't don't play the 1055 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,200 one team. You're 4 different players. 1056 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,920 And four different universes. I'm I'm cornering the market on 1057 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:11,280 tight ends also. Yeah, I mean Stours like almost 1058 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,840 as athletic as Sadiq, maybe even more so I think. 1059 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,920 And more productive, obviously. I think the one thing that Sadiq 1060 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,720 has going for him, well among many, but Sadiq's quite a bit 1061 00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:26,360 younger than Stours. So that's probably the, you 1062 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,640 know, if you have them ranked closely, that's a tiebreaker. 1063 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,320 I have Sadiq quite a bit ahead of Sowers. 1064 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:37,120 But yeah, I think you could make a case when I'm feeling 1065 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,480 contrarian, I have Sowers ahead of Mendoza. 1066 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:46,640 I think if you if you even if on a on a QB needy team, you can 1067 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:52,240 make a case for Sowers up there. And then Blair, for you, is this 1068 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:56,360 just like, you know, you're hunting for that massive 1069 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,760 positional advantage at at tight end premium and you're just kind 1070 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,360 of willing to take shots on these guys if they do end up 1071 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:06,320 being one of those kind of top five year over year tight end 1072 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:07,920 guys? Yeah. 1073 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,480 So the fact that it's tight end premium isn't like that does 1074 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:16,120 that is part of it. But I also think that both the 1075 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,480 wide receiver and running back class of this year are pretty 1076 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,080 weak. And so Deacon's towers have a 1077 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,680 chance to be special players, so. 1078 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,520 Go off, King. Davis, do you want to comment on 1079 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,160 stars? You're high on him. 1080 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:34,240 I, I mean, this guy is like built in a lab to be a guy I 1081 00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:36,160 would like. He's a converted quarterback. 1082 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,680 You can easily excuse away his lack of early production because 1083 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:44,080 he learned how to play tight end about 20-4 months ago as he 1084 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,120 converted from quarterback to tight end in New Mexico State 1085 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,360 with his buddy Diego Pavia. Then traveled with myself. 1086 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,520 About that with RJ Harvey last year, by the way, it's a 1087 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,960 dangerous Rd. Well then he then he wins the MF 1088 00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,280 and Mackey in his third full season ever playing tight end, 1089 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,320 really like his second and a half because he was still was 1090 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,280 doing some quarterback stuff in New Mexico State. 1091 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,360 Then he goes to the combine blows away what anyone 1092 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:11,480 anticipated and I think how you feel about this is the Rorschach 1093 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,280 to if you are a stours guy or not. 1094 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,560 Everyone agrees no team will draft him and ask him to block. 1095 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:22,560 So either you say, OK, well that means best case he is Dalton 1096 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,640 Kincaid, he'll never run more than 65% of the routes. 1097 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,600 He'll never, you know, be like a 13 fantasy points per game tight 1098 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,160 end, so what's the point? Or you say no team will ever ask 1099 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,360 him to block, but they might spend a first round pick on him 1100 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:36,920 anyways. That means they have a vision. 1101 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:38,560 That means they're going to commit to it. 1102 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:43,320 He will actually basically be, what if Mike Gasicki ran 82% of 1103 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:44,680 the routes? Wouldn't that be fun? 1104 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,760 And I'm telling myself that because it's such a shitty draft 1105 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,240 class, because insiders keep telling us this is an awful 1106 00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:53,920 draft note. Like everyone's bad. 1107 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,600 Every position, there's like 6 good players in the whole draft. 1108 00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,200 Someone takes him in the first round and just says, you know 1109 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,240 what? Let's, let's just see what this 1110 00:57:01,240 --> 00:57:02,440 guy's got. Let's just play him. 1111 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,040 Let's just, let's just give this guy 112 targets. 1112 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,280 And and I'm I'm fully committed to it. 1113 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:14,240 All right, shout out in the chat to Bindle's just gifted 5 ship 1114 00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:17,640 chasing memberships. You rock Bindle's looks like the 1115 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,920 banks are coming in. Take advantage of that 1116 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,800 membership, hop in the Deposit Kingdom Discord, sync your 1117 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,480 YouTube and Discord accounts, and then you can hop in the ship 1118 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:30,560 chasing Discord channel. Very fun spot to talk Ball and 1119 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:31,920 Ryan. I promise. 1120 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,080 The intention was to bring you on to get to draft. 1121 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,200 We have gotten some of your takes, but that pick is not 1122 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:44,800 going to be now because Blair is going to break again. 1123 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:45,760 We are going to be a slits in the. 1124 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:46,760 Rankings. It'll be great. 1125 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,920 I can't wait. OK. 1126 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,920 Blair here you draft Jeremy Bernard. 1127 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,560 No, this is going to be more more conventional. 1128 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,440 I think I'm going Omar Cooper here. 1129 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,480 OK. I believe, I believe I probably 1130 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,440 have him a tear below, like there's a tear break ahead of 1131 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,400 him, but I think he's kind of clearly the next guy. 1132 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,600 I feel like the most interesting thing with Omar Cooper right now 1133 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,040 and like vis A vis Casey Concepcion is you see him in a 1134 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,320 lot of mocks now, like in the top 20. 1135 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,200 The Jets are very popular spot for him. 1136 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:27,160 And like if Casey Concepcion goes to the Bills or a fun team 1137 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:31,040 at the end and Omar Cooper goes ahead of him though to The Jets, 1138 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,360 like Casey's going ahead of him in every spot, right? 1139 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:38,200 I guess the question is, if it's flipped and it's like Casey 1140 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,600 concepcioned to The Jets and Omar Cooper, like, does that tip 1141 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:46,560 the scales for anybody? Cooper's a Jet. 1142 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,280 I, I, I, I don't make your stream. 1143 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:52,360 I, I March down to one Jets drive and handle things myself 1144 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,280 like that. Just the 16th overall. 1145 00:58:54,280 --> 00:59:00,000 Omar Cooper can't happen. I just want that. 1146 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:04,280 I just want that on the record. January 6th has nothing on April 1147 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,920 24th when Ron Stewart marches lunches. 1148 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,400 I will. I will knock on the door. 1149 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,880 Yeah, you guys, you guys. Gonna bring a whole new meaning 1150 00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:18,520 to a 24. Yeah, yeah, yeah, OK. 1151 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,600 Yeah, idiot. Any other takes on on Omar 1152 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,720 Cooper? Definitely getting a ton of 1153 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,120 steam. Trade, trade this. 1154 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:33,120 Hold on, hold on. Cooper's ceiling, I didn't touch 1155 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:34,320 that. I can't. 1156 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,960 I can't. I can't with Matthew Gold. 1157 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:43,640 I thought we were done. No, I'm not remotely sold on 1158 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:47,240 Coopers floor at all. I think if you Fast forward two 1159 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,080 years and he's been cut from his NFL team, like I wouldn't be 1160 00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,680 surprised, but I'm getting more sold on his ceiling because the 1161 00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,760 there's nothing really of substance to the profile 1162 00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:00,240 holistically until you're 4. But the pro profile is pretty 1163 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,920 solid all the way along, even though he wasn't playing much in 1164 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:04,520 year 2 or year three out of high school. 1165 01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,560 And then you add on top of that the really, really elite missed 1166 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,520 tackles 4 stuff. It wouldn't be totally shocking 1167 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,880 if there was like a. A Brandon Iuke hidden underneath 1168 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,640 the whole time that just didn't get revealed until the 4th year. 1169 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,000 So if you're telling me like 1 of him or Boston is a superstar, 1170 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,000 I think it's clearly Cooper that has the higher ceiling and I 1171 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,560 think he's worth a swing. I I just think that the floor is 1172 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:30,600 really, really sketchy. All right, let's, let's keep 1173 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:37,320 this rolling here. And man, this wheel is just 1174 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,480 absolutely weighted against me and Ryan in just unbelievable 1175 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:42,600 fashion. Keep talking, Ron. 1176 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,560 I mean, I'm sick of hearing you talk, but just keep going. 1177 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,760 Yeah, me too, man. I I do want to throw out there. 1178 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,520 Omar Cooper had 10 catches, 207 yards and four touchdowns versus 1179 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:55,920 Indiana State in A730 win. That's like that's the second 1180 01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:00,040 only his 2nd 100 yard game last year, which is just like, it's 1181 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,680 just scary. I, I think Davis was alluding to 1182 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,400 it of like, I don't know, Mark Cooper, if you watched Indiana, 1183 01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,080 he, he was like, maybe, I don't know, he was like maybe like 1184 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,840 their third or fourth best receiving option in any given 1185 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:14,560 play. Like I think like the young kid, 1186 01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:16,600 Charlie Becker was awesome too. That guy. 1187 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,400 Really. I'm honestly just filibustering 1188 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:19,800 because I've had my rankings down, I thought. 1189 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:21,560 You played at Indiana State, Ron. 1190 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,880 Wait a second, Larry Bird. Yeah, OK. 1191 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,600 Well, you kind of ruined it, but that was the bet I was. 1192 01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:27,520 Going to I thought you were going to. 1193 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:28,880 I thought you were going to say a football player. 1194 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:33,080 That's my bet. No, no, that was the bet you 1195 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,840 got. It Hey guy, real quick Rod, have 1196 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,960 you done 4? Did I accidentally forget to 1197 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,360 remove one of yours? Did you do T? 1198 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,360 No, you just wrote down Cooper as Blair. 1199 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,360 Or you wrote it as. Rod, I'll like Blair. 1200 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,200 Phew. All right, you are back on the 1201 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:46,960 on the clock though, Ron here for. 1202 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,080 You, that was my final pick. I'll take I'll take Jadarian 1203 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:51,600 price. I actually like Jadarian Price 1204 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,240 more than I think other people do. 1205 01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,920 He took me in a class of just like a lot of mid and not a lot 1206 01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,800 of fun players. He's like he's just a mystery 1207 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,520 box to me. Like sure, he doesn't really 1208 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,960 catch passes, but I'd like to see him not I I don't know, I'd 1209 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,080 like to. He's probably never going to be 1210 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,160 a 50 plus catch guy, but I'd like to see him not in the back 1211 01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,920 to the Jeremiah love and just sort of see what he could be as 1212 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,920 his own person. He like his his best comp by far 1213 01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:18,520 is Miles Sanders. Of course, we didn't get to see 1214 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:19,960 the one year like with Saquon leaves. 1215 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,160 We saw Miles Sanders do something, but he's fun. 1216 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,960 It does suck he didn't test better, but he is this guy where 1217 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,920 he leads the class and runs a 15 plus yard rate. 1218 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,560 He also was like an awesome kick returner, if you care about that 1219 01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,720 kind of thing. I think that he averages like, I 1220 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:37,360 don't know, I'm pulling, I'm pulling stats out of thin air 1221 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:38,960 here because I don't have this pulled up, but I think that he 1222 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,120 averaged like 35 yards per kick return, which. 1223 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,320 He did. He had, I believe, 21 kick 1224 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,680 returns at Notre Dame and three of them went for touchdowns. 1225 01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:47,440 Yeah. I mean, that's, that's awesome. 1226 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,960 That's like we're talking if you want to talk like a weapon or 1227 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:52,200 whatever. And I think honestly, the fact 1228 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,480 that he he had like 670 rushing yards and I think like 12 or 13 1229 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,840 touchdowns. He he was the reason Jeremiah 1230 01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,600 Love probably didn't win a Heisman this year. 1231 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,680 Like he and I think that that means something that he kept him 1232 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,840 off the field, like carved out his own role within this 1233 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,480 offense. So I don't know. 1234 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,720 I, I, I, I couldn't tell you what he could be, but I do think 1235 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,600 a lot of the modeling stuff for his production based stuff is 1236 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,560 it, it's just kind of you can throw your hands up in the air 1237 01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,080 and at 110 he's going to probably go second round. 1238 01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,320 That's, that's really good for running backs in terms of just 1239 01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,320 historical hit rates and you just, if you want to blindly 1240 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,240 look at draft capital. So to me he's, he's just a fun 1241 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,400 mystery box. You you turn in your late first 1242 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,600 round pick in a dynasty rookie draft and you kind of hope for 1243 01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:35,640 the best. Does anyone have ARB two over 1244 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,400 price? I I would be the only one that 1245 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,280 does and we don't have to get. Into it. 1246 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,600 I have boring. I have boring Jonah Coleman. 1247 01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:46,440 Yeah, I well, well, I'm assuming that no one else will want him. 1248 01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:50,360 So when we get to my pick in the second round, we'll we'll, we'll 1249 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:54,560 go over this territory. OK, All right, you have you have 1250 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,040 what, the founding father of America as your RB2? 1251 01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:58,360 Gosh. Damn right I do. 1252 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,120 All right, I'm Canadian, so I don't endorse that kind of 1253 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:09,400 thing. I am finally on the clock here 1254 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:13,560 and I do feel like I've seen him in recent mock drafts kind of 1255 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,880 slipping out around 1 when I feel like most of the thesis 1256 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,680 with him is the draft capital. And I also have like rookie best 1257 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,680 ball brain where I'm way more willing to take on the risk of 1258 01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,320 some of these guys. But I'm just going to pull the 1259 01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,480 trigger on Denzel Boston here. I'm going to hope, I'm going to 1260 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:33,600 pray and I'll actually let any of you guys either say while 1261 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,760 that why this is a donkey pick or the the right pick on the 1262 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:42,160 board right here. Denzel Boston is Denzel Boston 1263 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,560 is Pacific Northwest for Keon Coleman. 1264 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,760 That's why I hope he goes to the Bills and just, you know, you 1265 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,440 can do man, though. Right. 1266 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:54,400 Coleman couldn't. OK, So you like him a little bit 1267 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,360 more, Jacob? I like him a little. 1268 01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:57,560 He would have been who I would have picked here. 1269 01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,080 I don't like him, but like he would have been who I would have 1270 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:05,200 picked here. Yeah, that's basically where I'm 1271 01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,600 at. For a while, I was keeping him 1272 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,720 as my wide receiver 5 ahead of Cooper, just cuz I'm way more 1273 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:14,000 willing to excuse away just the lack of an underclassmen 1274 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:18,880 production profile when you're on like a competitive national 1275 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:22,480 championship team behind Roma Dunes, a Jalen Polk, Jalen 1276 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,840 McMillan, like all these day one and day 2 picks. 1277 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,800 Makes sense to me that he didn't play at all really early in his 1278 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,760 career. But yeah, I just there aren't 1279 01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,280 really any of the things you can point to like with Omar Cooper 1280 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,000 of like the missed tackle force are amazing. 1281 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,360 He could be like an analytical outlier. 1282 01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:43,040 Boston's profiles fine. It's not like awful, but yeah, 1283 01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:46,480 he's he's just the he's a very underwhelming just kind of late, 1284 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:51,200 late round one wide receiver. If he falls around to I will 1285 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,040 stop caring about him basically and he'll he'll he'll just go 1286 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:55,800 wherever his draft capital does for me. 1287 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,120 Any other Boston thoughts here? Should we keep it rolling? 1288 01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,240 Another pick to trade for Matthew Golden. 1289 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:13,840 Jeez, OK, it happened. Our guest, Ryan Heath is finally 1290 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,240 gonna get to make a pick here. Right when the picks get super 1291 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,080 fun. You are on the clock at 112, Mr. 1292 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:21,920 Heath. Awesome. 1293 01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:25,520 Yeah, so I'll, I'll get my guy that I have ranked at 1:12 here, 1294 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,680 which is Jonah Coleman. I I really want Jonah Coleman to 1295 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,880 be my RB2. The reason I can't is 'cause 1296 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:36,600 there's a there's a non zero chance he falls to day three, 1297 01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:40,280 which is a great thing to say about a guy taking in round one 1298 01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:44,240 of a dynasty rookie draft. But the stats are genuinely 1299 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:48,200 really good, really exciting. He's big, he can catch the ball 1300 01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,480 really well. The like worst downside comp you 1301 01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,040 can kind of get into just 'cause we don't have athletic testing 1302 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,400 for him. Every film guy says he's slow is 1303 01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,400 like, what if he's Zach Moss where he was just a really 1304 01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,680 productive college player but kind of can't physically keep up 1305 01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:04,680 in the NFL? Like a team's not going to want 1306 01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:08,520 to just make him a lead runner. But out of anybody after 1307 01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:12,360 Jeremiah Love, this is the most like convincing 3 down profile 1308 01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,440 to me. The advance metrics are really 1309 01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:15,760 good. All the missed tackles for 1310 01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:20,000 stuff, just his on the ground efficiency against his teammates 1311 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:23,000 at basically every stop along the way of his career was really 1312 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,600 solid. So yeah, Coleman's really fun. 1313 01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,600 I've got him at 112 right now. Fingers crossed I don't have to 1314 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,480 move him down. Fingers crossed I can move him 1315 01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,520 up. The draft capital cooperates. 1316 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,120 But yeah, that's where I'm at with him. 1317 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,320 Any other Jonah Coleman thoughts from the. 1318 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,840 P He goes day 2. Is he overpriced for you guys? 1319 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:44,880 I would. If he lands in a good enough 1320 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:46,960 spot I would take him over Price in round four. 1321 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,520 I love Coleman. I mean Love's maybe a strong 1322 01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:54,040 word cuz this running back class is bad, but I dislike price in 1323 01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:58,160 Washington pretty decisively and as long as I think I have a 1324 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,680 reasonable path to Coleman becoming a lead back in year 1325 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,040 one, I'm gonna have him as my RB2. 1326 01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:07,440 I think he just has the best mix of creation ability, 3 down 1327 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,000 upside, goal line, upside receiving. 1328 01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,080 Like I'm, I'm very excited about his profile. 1329 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,840 But yeah, I mean, if he if he goes to day three, then you're 1330 01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,439 spinning the wheel, right? Like he could go to day three, 1331 01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,000 but be drafted by Seattle and that's awesome. 1332 01:08:22,279 --> 01:08:24,720 Could go to day three and be like the backup on the Eagles. 1333 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,240 And it's like, well, I don't, you know, at that point it's 1334 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:30,240 just over. So I'm a Coleman Bull for sure. 1335 01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,520 And he's the one I'm most nervous about on drafting. 1336 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,319 Yeah, Yeah. Because I assume just like I 1337 01:08:37,319 --> 01:08:39,880 mean those guys fell to what, Round 4? 1338 01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:44,680 But do you guys all like Scatabo and Tooten as prospects more 1339 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,279 than? Way more. 1340 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,120 Any of these guys we're going to talk about. 1341 01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:52,279 So you're just hoping that the scarcity at the position in this 1342 01:08:52,279 --> 01:08:55,800 draft class, like pushes one or two of these guys up into round 1343 01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:57,960 three, and then you at least have that to hang your hat on, 1344 01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:00,680 Yeah. Yeah, it's just a weird class 1345 01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:04,080 where like the guy that's going to get the draft capital's price 1346 01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,920 who's this kind of odd profile who it's who has really exciting 1347 01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:09,359 things. Like I'm not going to disagree 1348 01:09:09,359 --> 01:09:12,439 with what Ron said about the big play up side, but it's just so 1349 01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,600 hard to envision a three down role for him as a as a guy who 1350 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,040 never caught passes. It's pretty undersized. 1351 01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,760 So like the guys that you can dream on the three down upside 1352 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:25,080 from is like Coleman, Johnson, Singleton, all of whom are 1353 01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,920 probably late day two, more likely day three guys. 1354 01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,200 And yeah, you're just you're just praying for a landing spot 1355 01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,479 that like, I mean, scataboo went day three. 1356 01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,560 But like it was really easy to envision how he'd become the 1357 01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,600 starter year one. And he did almost instantly. 1358 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:41,240 So if you get a spot like that for Coleman, then I'm I'm in. 1359 01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:44,920 But yeah, if you if you get like the DJ Gidden spot from last 1360 01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:46,840 year, it's just it's, it's just GG. 1361 01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:51,880 I'm also a draft capital snob and if Price goes top 50 I'll be 1362 01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:56,280 very interested. Yeah, it's going to be Ryan or 1363 01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,360 me. It's going to be close. 1364 01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:06,320 Oh, it's going to be me. I'm definitely looking at a wide 1365 01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:09,360 receiver here. Unless you tell me the Seahawks 1366 01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:13,320 take my Mike Washington at pick 32, then I'll maybe change my 1367 01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,440 mind. But let's go with a guy I've 1368 01:10:16,440 --> 01:10:19,800 drafted a lot in best ball of late, Chris Brazil. 1369 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,720 Who? I think Jacob corrected me on 1370 01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,160 his pronunciation. I wanted him to be the gazelle 1371 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,240 Chris Brazelle, but it is in fact Brazil. 1372 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,240 Brazil, Brazil, Brazil. What do you guys think about 1373 01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:34,200 this pic? Thoughts. 1374 01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:35,920 I have Tennessee. I have, I just so, yeah. 1375 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,120 I can lend you. Yeah, I've just got nothing to 1376 01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:41,600 say about Chris Brazil. These guys are so uninteresting. 1377 01:10:45,480 --> 01:10:47,280 He's, Ryan said. He's really tall. 1378 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:51,560 Yep, He is tall and fast. I think that can go a long way, 1379 01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:55,720 obviously, in the NFL, Yeah. I mean, this is a tier where 1380 01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:01,440 Brazzle's probably the next pick and is a good pick here. 1381 01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:05,400 But I don't think you would be wrong to maybe look a little bit 1382 01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,200 off the board if you want a wide receiver too. 1383 01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,560 Blair suggesting it's OK to learn off this board. 1384 01:11:12,440 --> 01:11:15,120 I I stole this right out of reception perception so it's not 1385 01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,200 my stat, but it blew my mind when I heard it, especially as 1386 01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,320 someone who's subjected to the Tennessee offense frequently. 1387 01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,520 Anyone care to hazard a guess on the percentage of snaps Chris 1388 01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:29,120 Brazil lined up specifically at right outside wide receiver? 1389 01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:40,400 It's 95.5 percent, 95.5%, just an absolutely insane alignment 1390 01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,680 for just everything in the Tennessee office is so hard to 1391 01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:46,040 make heads or tails of but. This guy is not getting any pre 1392 01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:49,280 snap motion cardio no. No, he's not. 1393 01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,880 OK, let's let's keep it moving and if any points come back to 1394 01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,560 like circle back how you guys are are stacking up this kind of 1395 01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,360 I guess it's tier 3 of wide receivers here, but we are going 1396 01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:05,600 to have Davis back on the clock here at pick 14. 1397 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,760 Can you make an uninteresting player interesting for us, 1398 01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,200 Davis? Oh, I will actually take the the 1399 01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,720 one interesting player remaining who is Mike Washington junior 1400 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:17,320 from the University of Arkansas, who I assume I know Jacob 1401 01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:19,400 doesn't like. I assume Ryan doesn't like. 1402 01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,800 I assume Blair there might ideologically actually find 1403 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:26,040 himself a little bit closer to me and don't really have a guess 1404 01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,080 on Ron. I assume Ron will just defer to 1405 01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:30,960 if the Seahawks take him at 32, he's in the Seahawks don't take 1406 01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:32,640 him at 32. He's out. 1407 01:12:33,440 --> 01:12:36,560 To me, Mike Washington Junior is is kind of what makes fantasy 1408 01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,920 football beautiful, which is you can just say this guy got frame 1409 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:44,680 mogged by Seth McGowan when they were team mates, or you can say, 1410 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:48,320 hey, he was really good His final season at running in a 1411 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:53,320 straight line for Arkansas, forming maybe the only 20 Ras 1412 01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:56,560 quarterback running back tandem of all time with Taylon Green 1413 01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:01,080 and Mike Washington Junior. And I basically with guys like 1414 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:05,320 this, I kind of, I, I call it the Ibrahim Mostert theorem, 1415 01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:09,760 which where I, I basically don't care how bad you were at playing 1416 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,840 running back in college, because if you get drafted and stick 1417 01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,800 around for a long time, someone will teach you how to play 1418 01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,000 running back. And running back points are 1419 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,480 given, not earned, whereas targets are earned, not given. 1420 01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,440 So he's just going to get a chance to run the ball in a 1421 01:13:23,440 --> 01:13:26,440 straight line really quickly, like 15 * a game probably. 1422 01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,600 And that is more than I can say about Jonah Coleman and Jadarian 1423 01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,680 Price. Yep. 1424 01:13:32,480 --> 01:13:36,520 Does anyone have Emmett Johnson over Mike Washington? 1425 01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:39,720 I don't. I wish I did. 1426 01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:40,680 I. Will yeah, I was going to say 1427 01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,520 Emmett J gets good. Capital, Yeah, yeah, if they got 1428 01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:46,400 the, if they got the same draft capital, I would easily take 1429 01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,000 Emmett Johnson. But like if I was doing a rookie 1430 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,080 draft today, I'm taking Washington first. 1431 01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:55,160 OK. All right, let's spin here for 1432 01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:58,280 our next pick. We've entered round two that 1433 01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:03,040 started with Chris Brazil and Mike Washington, and Ryan is 1434 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,040 back on the clock here at pick 15. 1435 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,920 All right, this is going to be the most boring pick in the 1436 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,160 draft. I I have no like good analysis 1437 01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:16,680 to add to this. I have Ty Simpson ranked at 13th 1438 01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:20,240 overall among rookies. This is literally just he's a 1439 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,240 quarterback that might get round one capital. 1440 01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,520 I have no actual opinion on Ty Simpson. 1441 01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,560 I yeah, I can't provide anything other than that. 1442 01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:32,040 But there's, yeah, there is nobody else that I'm taking over 1443 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,800 Nameless, faceless quarterback that maybe sneaks into round 1444 01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:40,280 one. Can anyone provide like not just 1445 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,840 repeating what Dan Orlovsky has said, but can anyone with their 1446 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:47,360 own mind, like tell me why he might go in round one? 1447 01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:48,920 Because I mean, I agree with Ryan. 1448 01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:52,200 I would have taken him here, but like, how? 1449 01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,960 Like, I, I tried to like, dive into the profile to see if I 1450 01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:58,160 could find something interesting about this guy, but I, I truly. 1451 01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:02,280 He's he's big and strong. That's it. 1452 01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,280 He's. Like 6-1, he's like, I mean, for 1453 01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:05,840 like a quarterback. More strong. 1454 01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:09,760 Yeah, yeah, He's like, pretty. Is it anyway like 220 though? 1455 01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:14,160 Maybe. Maybe. 211 I think he was saying 1456 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:14,640 all. Right. 1457 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:16,800 So he's not even big and strong. I was trying to be kind to him. 1458 01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,600 I only ever watched him play one game start to one game, start to 1459 01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:22,040 finish. And it was against Oklahoma. 1460 01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:26,720 And he looked positively Davis Webbian to me. 1461 01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:28,520 Like like straight up like undraftable. 1462 01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:32,680 So it's all seems crazy to me. Because it's even the NFL, like 1463 01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:37,760 I mean, he's a one year starter with pretty bad efficiency and 1464 01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,600 the NFL is willing to draft those guys. 1465 01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,080 It never works out by the way, but they they do draft those 1466 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,080 guys. But usually they're like Anthony 1467 01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:47,200 Richardson where it's like this probably won't work out, but I 1468 01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,200 can see why A-Team would want to do it right? 1469 01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,080 Like he's the most athletic guy of all time. 1470 01:15:51,440 --> 01:15:54,920 But Simpson is like, what if one year inefficient starter was 1471 01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:58,040 like generic white guy with like a medium arm? 1472 01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:01,640 I don't, I don't know, but I think it's a totally fine pick. 1473 01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:04,080 I mean, he's like Tyler Shock I thought was one of the most 1474 01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,400 ridiculous picks of all time and he looks totally prominent, so 1475 01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:11,360 it could easily work out. I think the NFL is gonna wisen 1476 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,200 up on this one. I don't think he'll go round 1477 01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,320 one. I will. 1478 01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,840 I will say, don't we do the same song and dance every year though 1479 01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,920 with the quarterback prospect everyone says is definitely not 1480 01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:25,960 around one guy and then some NFL team takes him in the top 20 1481 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,280 that it's like sometimes they're good at sometimes. 1482 01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:31,000 There's the reverse. Levis had top 10 Steam and then 1483 01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,680 one second round. Malik Willis, same deal. 1484 01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:38,040 Like I, I don't know, I, I think, yeah, I guess in a week 1485 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,240 class somebody might do it in the 20s. 1486 01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:43,640 Hey Ron, you would kill for Malik Willis to be your 1487 01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:47,080 quarterback. But no, no, no, not on that 1488 01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:51,960 contract bro. All right, so poor Ryan had to 1489 01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:55,000 wait until the second round to start making picks, and then he 1490 01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,720 finally has to take a pick that he has no thoughts on. 1491 01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,400 So that's that's how well we're running today. 1492 01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:03,320 We're gonna keep it rolling, though. 1493 01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:06,280 It looks like it's gonna be me here. 1494 01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:12,080 You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna do a guy who out 1495 01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,520 produced Omar Cooper Junior. That's. 1496 01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,400 What I wanted to do, man, I wanted to talk about this guy. 1497 01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:22,040 Ryan I mean, precedent was set. Blair took Kenyan Sadiq 2. 1498 01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,600 Overall, you could do it. I should, I should've he. 1499 01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,240 I know you're new to podcasting with Ryan, but he's just 1500 01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:33,280 committed to being boring. Yeah, So I'm going to do Elijah 1501 01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,920 Serrat. I've been looking at Dwayne's 1502 01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:37,920 supermodel. He, you know, because of that 1503 01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,440 production just grades out so well. 1504 01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:42,640 And who knows where the draft capital will be. 1505 01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:46,440 But I feel like betting on these guys who have shown an ability 1506 01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:50,040 to earn targets, a massive amount of targets is always a 1507 01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,120 good thing to to fall back on in dynasty drafts. 1508 01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,520 So Ryan, let me let me kick it to you, because you sound 1509 01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:58,920 thrilled about Serrat despite just passing on him. 1510 01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:03,680 Yeah, so for first I'll say I I get that most film guys hate him 1511 01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:05,880 and say he can't separate and he's slow and all that stuff. 1512 01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,680 But the the guy, the guy produced, damn it. 1513 01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:13,440 And he produced wherever he went, starting at James Madison. 1514 01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:18,040 He had one of the three best yards per team pass attempt 1515 01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:21,720 seasons in a non power conference underage 21. 1516 01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,600 That's on a top five list with Michael Gallup and Cortland 1517 01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,840 Sutton, two of the only non power conference wide receiver 1518 01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,640 hits ever. So that's great moves to 1519 01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,000 Indiana. The per out stuff looks 1520 01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:37,360 completely elite behind only Jeremiah Smith and 1st Downs per 1521 01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:42,040 out run last year, I believe was that SAT in my model. 1522 01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:45,320 He has the second best production score ever for a 1523 01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:49,200 projected round three NFL draft pick between Michael Gallup and 1524 01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:52,120 Josh Downs. So yeah, I, I don't know that 1525 01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,800 he's like a guaranteed hit or anything like that. 1526 01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,200 This is like pretty close to 5050. 1527 01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:00,520 Is this a real player or not? But I I am super willing to take 1528 01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:04,720 that even like in the early 2nd. He's my 14th overall rookie in 1529 01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:06,640 this class. So I'm going to end up with a 1530 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,360 lot of him and he he's really fun. 1531 01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:15,200 Nice All right, let's spin here and you guys are going to have 1532 01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:19,680 to get real creative here down this I guess here for a macro 1533 01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,200 question and and Jacob, you can tee us off here because you're 1534 01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:25,440 going to be picking where do you and I know you you wrote this 1535 01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:29,320 up, but refresh my my memory on like where do you see the value 1536 01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,800 tier gaps for people who have have these picks might be trying 1537 01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:36,240 to position themselves to capture the end of a tier so. 1538 01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:40,720 I have love being worth 2 firsts and then I have the three 1539 01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:44,920 receivers at 1.25 base ones, which if you're not familiar in 1540 01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:48,280 the world of Jacob speak, that basically just means like an 1541 01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,000 early to midfirst in a regular class. 1542 01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:55,680 And then yeah, I have my I only have one player in the class 1543 01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:58,080 being worth a late 1, which is Concepcion. 1544 01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:01,840 And then I have everyone from 7 through 12 as being worth an 1545 01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:06,200 early 2 and then to base 2. And then I'm already a guys that 1546 01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:10,360 I'm valuing as late 2 starting at 2O3, which is. 1547 01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:15,960 A good place to kick off because I have my top player available. 1548 01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:20,040 My 2O3 ranked player is on the board, the first of my late two 1549 01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:21,440 guys, and that's what I'll take here. 1550 01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:25,120 And Davis, I'm taking a fast guy giving Nick Singleton running 1551 01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:26,720 back 10 states. Hey. 1552 01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:29,200 There we go, man. We can always, you know, 1553 01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:32,040 horseshoe theory. We we're able to meet. 1554 01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:34,600 Sorry. Nick Singleton is the most. 1555 01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:39,240 Nick Singleton is like the least Jacob prospect imaginable in 1556 01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:44,120 that he has the most horrible fancy metrics of anyone you'll 1557 01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:46,840 find. So he's not really my type at 1558 01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:50,720 the running back position. It's just it gets to a point in 1559 01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:52,960 this class where I think the upside starts to really 1560 01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:57,320 evaporate and I can at least talk myself into if a team 1561 01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:00,520 decides to give him touches Like why can't he be DeAndre Swift 1562 01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,200 where you're like shaking your head every now and again about 1563 01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,960 this guy took the wrong rushing lane, but he's really explosive. 1564 01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:10,960 He has legitimate receiving pop like his three seasons over 1.5 1565 01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,160 yards per outrun. He's 6 foot 219 lbs and if he 1566 01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:17,400 had not broken his darn foot, I think he would have run sub 4/4 1567 01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:20,560 at the NFL combine. So for sure I think he is one of 1568 01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:24,280 the few guys in this class that you can really see a vision of 1569 01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:27,040 as a three down running back. Pretty unlikely that actually 1570 01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,320 happens, but I think the ceiling here is pretty high. 1571 01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:36,960 All right, let's see what we're gonna cook up here at 18. 1572 01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:42,000 Jacob has two more picks, Ryan has two more picks and I am 1573 01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:47,640 about to make my final pick. I I was debating between him and 1574 01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:49,080 Sarat. So I am going to just take 1575 01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,480 Emmett Johnson here. I guess the one thing I like 1576 01:21:52,480 --> 01:21:56,200 just listening to JJ and I think it was Pat talk about him. 1577 01:21:56,440 --> 01:22:00,800 Just the being able to fall back on the, the receiving profile. 1578 01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,280 It doesn't seem like necessarily a lot of these other guys have 1579 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:08,320 robust receiving chops in their game. 1580 01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,120 So I'm going to take Emmett Johnson. 1581 01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:11,960 Do any of you guys have thoughts on him? 1582 01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:15,880 I really wish he was faster than he. 1583 01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,360 He was what? What was his? 1584 01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:22,120 40 Davis. Was it like 4-5? 1585 01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:27,640 5-6 yeah 456. Which the 40s find it's just, I 1586 01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:33,200 mean the four 5-6 is no problem in a vacuum. 456 and being 2O2 1587 01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:36,280 is a little tough. There are a number of examples 1588 01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:39,360 of running backs that have hit and that he has one thing that 1589 01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,720 they all share which is a really good receiving profile, right? 1590 01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,280 If you're going to be small and slow, you better be able to 1591 01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:48,120 catch the football and he can the I, I did a deep dive into 1592 01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,120 some of his creation metrics in the profile and they're just not 1593 01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:53,520 quite at the level that I'd want to get in on him. 1594 01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,920 Like they're they're they lag like a Bucky and Aaron Jones, a 1595 01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,960 singletary pretty significantly. The one guy that I think he's 1596 01:22:59,960 --> 01:23:04,040 almost a one to one comp to is Kyron Williams, which like was a 1597 01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,720 great troll for me because I hate Kyron Williams. 1598 01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:11,120 But you know, if if a team decides to install him and they 1599 01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:14,000 they value his reliability and his versatility, I think he 1600 01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,120 could have a pretty nice fantasy ceiling. 1601 01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:19,720 But I just don't know that that many teams would have wanted to 1602 01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,400 start Kyron Williams, right? Like I think I think Kyron ended 1603 01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,560 up on a very specific path that worked out very well for him. 1604 01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:28,640 If he gets drafted by not the Rams, Like I don't know if his 1605 01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:33,320 career is what his career is. All right, there we go. 1606 01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:37,200 We also have Nick maybe potentially spoiling a future 1607 01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:41,760 pick in Wish, casting one of us to select his guy, Ted Morris 1608 01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:43,960 Hearst the third. He's using his Immaculate 1609 01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:47,160 milestone, a member for 53 months. 1610 01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:51,720 We'll see if someone can do you proud, Nick with an upcoming 1611 01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:53,680 selection. Thank you for that. 1612 01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:56,920 Maybe it will be Jacob, maybe it won't. 1613 01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:06,000 Well with Emmett gone I'm already clear of my I'm like no 1614 01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,640 I have one more guy left in my late 2 tier so it won't be Ted 1615 01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:10,880 Hurst. I apologize. 1616 01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:14,560 I'll be taking Davis's least favorite player in the class, 1617 01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,840 tight end Max Claire from. Ohio State, literally, I think 1618 01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:21,000 truly like me versus consensus. My least favorite player in the 1619 01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:27,320 class, Yeah. Max Claire had a really, really 1620 01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:31,040 impressive red shirt. Sophomore season at Purdue did 1621 01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,920 not replicate the same level of production at Ohio State. 1622 01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:38,040 I've heard some film people. We had Max on Ryan and I's show 1623 01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,320 Dynasty Points. We had Max Toscono on and said 1624 01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,200 that he he noticed a drop off in the film. 1625 01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,800 That worries me a little bit because I was pretty willing to 1626 01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,920 just completely excuse his lack of production while playing next 1627 01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:52,040 to Jeremiah Smith and Cardinal Tate as a transfer tight end. 1628 01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,400 But I think what you get with Claire is a theoretical build 1629 01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,960 that could play as AY tight end and we have a demonstrated 1630 01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,240 receiving ceiling from his year at Purdue. 1631 01:25:00,440 --> 01:25:07,080 That's exciting ish for me. And I'll throw in he didn't test 1632 01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:11,760 the combine, which is not ideal, but we do have PFF chart on him 1633 01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,600 with 99th percentile on field athleticism. 1634 01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:16,880 I don't know if that's anything, but like it's at least something 1635 01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:18,520 that I can put under my pillow at night. 1636 01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:21,720 So I like Max Claire a lot at his. 1637 01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:27,000 ADP. All right, there you go, Jacob. 1638 01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:33,560 Let's keep spinning here. I should also mention before 1639 01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:39,400 Ryan makes this selection next week, we do have our NFL draft 1640 01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,440 round one party slash extravaganza. 1641 01:25:42,440 --> 01:25:45,760 We are always live for the entirety of round one. 1642 01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:49,480 We'll have lots of guests swinging by, so mark your 1643 01:25:49,480 --> 01:25:54,160 calendars for that Thursday, April 23rd, 8:00 PM start. 1644 01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:57,600 But Ryan, you are back on the clock here at Pick 20. 1645 01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:01,400 Someone made a joke earlier about me drafting Jeremy Bernard 1646 01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:02,880 and that's exactly what I'm doing now. 1647 01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:07,400 This is where I have him ranked. Play to your baseball card, kid. 1648 01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:12,080 I I think there's like a low key kind of analytics case for him, 1649 01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:13,800 which is just when you age adjust. 1650 01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:17,120 If you just look at the age 20 season of every receiver in this 1651 01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:20,520 class, his was actually the third best by yards per team 1652 01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,160 pass attempt in a power conference. 1653 01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:26,960 At least it was, yeah, ahead of what Casey Concepcion and 1654 01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:28,800 Carnell Tate both did at that age. 1655 01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:32,000 So that's like something you can kind of hang your hat on. 1656 01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:35,960 He had decent target competition throughout his career. 1657 01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:39,800 Ryan Williams at projected 2027 around 1 pick. 1658 01:26:40,480 --> 01:26:42,960 I so yeah, it I don't like love him. 1659 01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,560 He's not exciting. He he doesn't have that high of 1660 01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:49,560 like an NFL ceiling. I comp into like Jacoby Myers as 1661 01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:51,840 like the fantasy receiver. We're all sick of where he's 1662 01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:55,080 just always going to be the wide receiver 30 every single year. 1663 01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:57,440 That's like the vibe I get with Jeremy Bernard. 1664 01:26:57,440 --> 01:27:00,280 I don't know that he's anywhere close to as good as Jacoby Myers 1665 01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:03,200 or will ever even live up to that, but that that's kind of 1666 01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,920 what you're getting here. And that's the best thing I see 1667 01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:08,320 on the board right now. Yeah. 1668 01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:12,800 Yeah, I guess to toss out to you guys and kind of I guess 1669 01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:15,080 piggybacking on the tears conversation for Jacob. 1670 01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:17,960 Are there are there any guys who kind of separate from the others 1671 01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:21,400 or is this like a jumbled pack here and and draft capital is 1672 01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:22,120 gonna. Sort it out. 1673 01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,720 Chris Bell is there. Yeah. 1674 01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,320 All right. We'll, we'll let the picks 1675 01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:32,440 settle this for us as we enter the home stretch of round two. 1676 01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:35,360 But what I'm learning is I feel like it used to be having like 1677 01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,600 late seconds in these kind of dynasty formats was like a 1678 01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:39,640 pretty exciting. Kind of a. 1679 01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:41,600 Hack. Yeah, and you get these 1680 01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:43,760 undervalued guys who might have some juice. 1681 01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:45,960 You still see that? Exciting. 1682 01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:50,720 I mean, last year the 2:06 was like Basil Tootin, and two years 1683 01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:53,840 ago the 2:06 was Ricky Pearsall, who was like a round one wide 1684 01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:57,360 receiver. But you know, as the poet Bob 1685 01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,920 Dylan once said, the times they are a change in. 1686 01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:05,280 Davis, you are on the clock, though I believe this is your 1687 01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,600 final pick here. At you guys you guys want me OK, 1688 01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:09,800 let's let's take it from the panel do you guys want me to 1689 01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:13,400 make a real pick or do you want me to take my favorite pick that 1690 01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:15,200 is is more I. Definitely want you. 1691 01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:17,600 To take it favorite pick? Obviously favorite pick. 1692 01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:21,920 OK, give me, give me, give me from University of California's 1693 01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:27,000 last University of Oklahoma one Mr. Jayden OTT, who set the 1694 01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:31,960 University of Oklahoma's gym record for peak propulsion 1695 01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:33,880 force. So that's the amount of 1696 01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:37,040 propulsion that your body generates in their special gym. 1697 01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:39,400 They they have, they have these like. 1698 01:28:39,440 --> 01:28:40,320 Is this real? Yes. 1699 01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:43,000 Yeah. So in is. 1700 01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,240 This in the slap model. Is this the P of the slap? 1701 01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:48,800 Model Oh, I got this from the I got this from the Freaks list 1702 01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,200 Feldman. Statistical likelihood of 1703 01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:58,040 achieving propulsion. I I think that I was telling 1704 01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:01,120 this to Jacob last night, I think, but basically like I 1705 01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:04,800 think the only reason why we are continually getting floated Jade 1706 01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,720 not is even a draftable guy given how I mean he basically 1707 01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:09,280 showed up to Oklahoma and was like, I'm good. 1708 01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:10,880 Actually, I don't really want to play. 1709 01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:13,960 So so give me my money, but I don't really want to play. 1710 01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:18,000 I think the only reason he's getting drafted is I mean, his 1711 01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:21,600 second season as at California, it was incredible. 1712 01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:23,920 And then the season he played with Mendoza, he was like the 1713 01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,760 worst running back in what remained of the PAC 12, which I 1714 01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:31,280 I'm assuming he's hurt or it kind of like an Ollie Gordon 1715 01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:32,800 ask. I mean, if you Ollie Gordon, if 1716 01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:36,640 you want to put it negatively or Chuba Hubbard if you wanted to 1717 01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:39,720 put it positively. I do not. 1718 01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:42,160 I don't think he will be an undrafted for agent. 1719 01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:46,120 I think he's going to get drafted and with most of these 1720 01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:48,640 prospects, even in the second round, it's a real I the 1721 01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:52,440 beholder situation and I'm choosing to say I believe the 1722 01:29:52,440 --> 01:29:56,040 sophomore season at Cal and I, I think he's, I mean, he trained 1723 01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:57,560 at Oklahoma's pro day and was awesome. 1724 01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:00,960 I'm so fired up if he gets drafted. 1725 01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:04,480 I'm just, you keep saying like, why do people keep talking about 1726 01:30:04,480 --> 01:30:06,320 Jay Knott? I'm not convinced that anyone's 1727 01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:07,480 talking with Jay Knott except me. 1728 01:30:07,480 --> 01:30:10,000 And you. Like, I think it's just us that 1729 01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,960 are that are bringing up Jay Knott and then we're like, why 1730 01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,960 is he in the discussion? I believe he has the most half. 1731 01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:18,680 Hearted blurb. Ever in my running back rankings 1732 01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:20,280 just. Where did where did he land for 1733 01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:22,600 you, Ryan, 'cause he, he got into my top ten. 1734 01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:24,760 It was like kind of a bit, but kind of real, yeah. 1735 01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:28,800 He's he's my RV 13. We'll take it, We'll take it. 1736 01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:31,680 I I believe he got a full write up in the beast. 1737 01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:33,800 Let me let me Fact Check myself right now, but I. 1738 01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:36,160 Well, I saw in the I saw in the beast also. 1739 01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:37,160 Everyone got a write up in the beast. 1740 01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:42,480 There's like 7000 prospects in the beast, like 200. 1741 01:30:42,480 --> 01:30:44,440 Tight. Ends I saw he was put on the red 1742 01:30:44,440 --> 01:30:47,160 flags list for like. I can't remember the specific 1743 01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:50,400 terminology but it was basically like choosing not to play. 1744 01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:54,920 It was like the the red flag. Here's the thing, we can't tell 1745 01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:57,640 Davis to do his fun, exciting pick and then trash the fun. 1746 01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:00,440 Exciting. Hey I'm I'm in on odd like. 1747 01:31:00,480 --> 01:31:02,160 I like it too. I want to put that out there. 1748 01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:03,880 I'm I'm always a sucker for a Debbie guy. 1749 01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,760 Like after his second year he was like a second round Debbie 1750 01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:08,000 pick. Second round Debbie Pick. 1751 01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:10,440 Yeah. Definitely the Zach Evans of 1752 01:31:10,480 --> 01:31:13,440 Shawn Tuckers, but I'm. For sure, for sure. 1753 01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:17,280 Very Bryce love. They Oh, Bryce Love is in his 1754 01:31:17,480 --> 01:31:20,480 Gray pole. Yes, very, very, very good. 1755 01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:24,840 All right, real quick before Ryan picks, I just want to note 1756 01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:29,480 that Davis has a skewed typical positional designations twice 1757 01:31:29,480 --> 01:31:31,200 now. He took an offensive weapon, one 1758 01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:34,200 O 1 and a gym rat at at 21 there. 1759 01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:37,160 I love that. We've formatted the columns. 1760 01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:40,840 Yeah, exactly. All right, Ryan, you're back on 1761 01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:43,000 the clock. I believe your final pick, yes. 1762 01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:46,600 Yeah, I'm so I'm going to use it to talk about the guy I want to 1763 01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:48,680 talk about rather than the guy it actually take. 1764 01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:53,240 For anyone curious, I would take Chris Bell and Antonio Williams 1765 01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:57,280 over the guy I'm about to talk about in a real draft, but it's 1766 01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:58,920 Justin Jolie here for me. Yeah. 1767 01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:02,480 Let's go. I haven't ranked at the end of 1768 01:32:02,480 --> 01:32:07,160 Round 2. Yeah, it's the I'm like weirdly 1769 01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:09,760 excited to just dive into all the day three tight ends in this 1770 01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:11,800 class. I feel like that that's like 1771 01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:14,440 actually what gets my blood pumping in Round 3 rookie drafts 1772 01:32:14,440 --> 01:32:18,600 right now. And it starts with Jolie goes to 1773 01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:22,320 UConn produces like a total monster there. 1774 01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:27,000 One of the obviously it's UConn so grain of salt, but he's on 1775 01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:32,040 list with like Brock Bowers and Kyle Pitts for like age 19 tight 1776 01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:36,600 end seasons, right? Goes to NC State alphas KC 1777 01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:40,440 Concepcion just the year after Concepcion had one of the best 1778 01:32:40,440 --> 01:32:43,880 freshman wide receiver seasons of like recent history. 1779 01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:47,240 Jolie comes in and completely alphas him out produces him. 1780 01:32:48,480 --> 01:32:53,760 Isn't quite as productive in his final season, but he had the the 1781 01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:56,800 injury where he was like jumping to the end zone on one leg. 1782 01:32:56,800 --> 01:33:00,800 You might have seen that clip. He is looks amazing by miss 1783 01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,080 tackles force. That's kind of his calling card. 1784 01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:07,080 I think like the the comp that I came to in the data and the comp 1785 01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:10,080 that Brett Whitefield, our extremely smart film guy 1786 01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:13,240 independently came to. We both said this is probably 1787 01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:16,480 Isaiah Likely. Isaiah Likely is a player that 1788 01:33:16,480 --> 01:33:18,840 annoys me. I I hate that Isaiah Likely has 1789 01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:21,960 held dynasty value and captured everyone's imaginations for so 1790 01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:25,760 many years despite like no actual results in the NFL. 1791 01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:30,080 But this is like your Isaiah Likely if you love those types 1792 01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,600 of prospects. I think there's a path where 1793 01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:36,520 Jolie goes to a team that an Isaiah Likely is is like one of 1794 01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:38,840 their more useful receiving game weapons. 1795 01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,680 I just like making these bets with these later round tight 1796 01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:46,240 ends that if it works out that they can run over 65% of the 1797 01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:49,760 routes and they have like a good month like a Ronda Gadson did, 1798 01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:52,560 then you're just instantly profiting on that pick. 1799 01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:56,400 Yeah, the the floor is 0, but that's can be said for 1800 01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:57,840 everything. Everyone else you're going to 1801 01:33:57,840 --> 01:33:59,840 pick here. So yeah, Jolie is going to be 1802 01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:02,520 one of my guys here at the end of Round 2. 1803 01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:06,240 All right, there you go. I like it. 1804 01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:09,760 Everybody flexing their sleepers as we round out. 1805 01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:12,280 There's no value hounds here. There's nobody wanting to run to 1806 01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:15,400 the podium and scoop up value, which tells you a lot about this 1807 01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:18,560 draft class. And if there's one person who 1808 01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:22,360 can go out with a bang and teach us all a name here at Kick 23, 1809 01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:26,800 it's Blair Andrews. Well, you set it up a little bit 1810 01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:29,800 too, a little bit too strong be. Yourself, Blair. 1811 01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:33,200 I mean, honestly, when I said that you could go off the board 1812 01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:36,400 at 13, the guy I was thinking of was Ted Hurst. 1813 01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:43,120 I think he's a strong pick here, but I actually want to go with 1814 01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:50,080 Jacoby Lane, who is a wide receiver that if you could build 1815 01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:54,560 a wide receiver in a lab, it would be Jacobi Lane, right 6-4, 1816 01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:57,840 sub 454010 and 1/2 inch hands, 40 inch vertical. 1817 01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:10,360 He's he also had more touchdowns than Mackay Lemon in 2024 and 1818 01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:16,240 now I have to look up the other talking points or maybe that's 1819 01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:20,120 it. He kind of frame mogged everyone 1820 01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:23,000 other than Zachary Branch when they were all rookies or 1821 01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:25,440 freshmen together, right? Yeah, he. 1822 01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:28,080 Did Kind of. Like Blair, do you know what 1823 01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:31,160 frame mog means? I don't, but I'll say yeah to 1824 01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:32,120 that. Anyway, this is doing. 1825 01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:35,360 Man hey, I think that I mean based on recent news, the era of 1826 01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:37,400 frame mog might be. Coming over might might be over. 1827 01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:40,000 Yeah, it might be. Over I am for Clav right now. 1828 01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:42,640 I assume it's something good. It is good. 1829 01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:46,800 It is good. It's just we absorb language 1830 01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:50,240 into our vernacular in a way that makes massive assumptions 1831 01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:52,080 about everybody else. And sometimes I need to. 1832 01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:56,120 Take a pause and make sure. I mean I can I can figure it out 1833 01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:59,120 from context. Yeah, yeah, just just know our 1834 01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,160 thoughts and prayers go out to Clavicular right now. 1835 01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:05,720 OK One. Any other Jacoby Lane thoughts 1836 01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:09,400 here? I know poor Nick is going to be 1837 01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:11,920 upset that you passed on his guy Ted Hurst from. 1838 01:36:13,480 --> 01:36:15,680 All right, put me, put me down as pro Jacoby Lane. 1839 01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:19,920 OK, one final selection. I am spinning it again even 1840 01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:21,520 though Jacob is the only one there. 1841 01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:26,840 Look, all all do the same thing everybody else did, which is I'm 1842 01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:28,960 not going to pick the guy I have ranked highest because I want to 1843 01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:32,160 do a bit instead. For the record, the highest 1844 01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:33,800 ranked guy on my board would be Antonio Williams. 1845 01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:37,240 But that's that's a boring pick. And I, I grew up in Winnipeg, 1846 01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:40,520 MB, which meant when I was growing up, we didn't have 1847 01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:44,080 Hollister, you know, we didn't have Abercrombie. 1848 01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:46,520 And you're going to say cars. We didn't have Culver's. 1849 01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:49,680 We did have cars because if you wanted to go and get, you know, 1850 01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:53,400 various American brands, you had to go down to Fargo, ND, and you 1851 01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:56,920 had to go into malls. You had to go to the Shield 1852 01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:58,800 sporting Goods with a Ferris wheel. 1853 01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:02,000 And so ever since that childhood, I have a certain warm 1854 01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:04,520 feeling for the North Dakota State Bisons. 1855 01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:09,960 And so I will take quarterback Cole Peyton, 12. 1856 01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:11,840 I'm here. That's what I was. 1857 01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:13,560 Expecting. Truly. 1858 01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:15,240 Like how high to rank him today? Yeah. 1859 01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:19,400 He's in this tier for me. I think he's super fun. 1860 01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:23,080 He's like probably the Chris Streveller of Tayson Hills. 1861 01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:26,160 But he has a real draft capital projection. 1862 01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:28,680 Like he has an outside chance to go in round three. 1863 01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:30,880 He's projected to go in round four. 1864 01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:36,960 And he was such a athlete that he had 13 rushing touchdowns in 1865 01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:40,440 2023 when he wasn't the starting quarterback, when Cam Miller was 1866 01:37:40,440 --> 01:37:42,840 the quarterback, they were using him in like a Chris Streveller, 1867 01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:47,640 Jason Hill roll and comes in last year, super efficient. 1868 01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:49,920 I mean, of course he was, he was playing in the FCS. 1869 01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:53,840 But if you want to dream on any of these late quarterbacks being 1870 01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:57,280 a legitimate fantasy upside guy, I think it's Peyton. 1871 01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:01,720 And so in a class that is devoid of upside, I'm hoping to have 1872 01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:07,120 like 40% exposure to Cole Peyton with my third and fourth round 1873 01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:10,160 rookie picks. There you go, I did. 1874 01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:13,040 Just for the audio listeners, I added some conditional 1875 01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:15,080 formatting here. The last four picks have 1876 01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:19,400 received a neon green treatment with the footnote denotes bits. 1877 01:38:19,440 --> 01:38:24,520 So just know you are drafting off of this in your high stakes 1878 01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:28,880 dynasty league that there was some tomfoolery here at the end, 1879 01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:30,040 but let me let me read the whole. 1880 01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:34,640 Thing here. This is yeah, No, I, I'm, I'm 1881 01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:38,000 keeping the same sheet. I can go back to 2023 when Wow, 1882 01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:40,000 look how. Far the formatting has come. 1883 01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:44,280 When I took Anthony Richardson at one O 2, that's that's how 1884 01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:46,920 far back we go. Dardell Washington. 1885 01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:48,720 Speaking of doing bits, look at that. 1886 01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:52,440 Is he a band of what I know? You remember that one? 1887 01:38:52,440 --> 01:38:55,760 Ron over HM? Hendon Hooker. 1888 01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:58,160 You want to talk about how quickly tight ends could lose 1889 01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:01,080 their value at dynasty leagues? How about Hendon Hooker? 1890 01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:04,600 Or he's a quarterback right? Quarterbacks whatever. 1891 01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:09,680 But yes for $100 you can have access to this entire sheet for 1892 01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:14,080 historical mock draft data. Otherwise this was the 20261 the 1893 01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:16,400 pre NFL draft. Jeremiah Love, Kenyan Sadiq 1894 01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:20,320 Carnell Tate Jordan, Tyson McKay, Lemon Mendoza, Concepcion 1895 01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:23,120 Stowers, Cooper Jadarian Price, Denzel Boston, Jonah Coleman, 1896 01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:26,640 Brazil, Mike Washington, Ty Simpson, Elijah Serrat, Nicholas 1897 01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:29,760 Singleton, Emmett Johnson, Max Claire, Jeremy Bernard, Jaden 1898 01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:36,160 OTT, Justin Jolie, Jacoby Lane and Cole Peyton Blair, Ron Ryan. 1899 01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:39,480 Thank you guys so much for joining Ryan. 1900 01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:43,440 Let people know where they can check your very measured 1901 01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:49,340 objective dynasty content. Yeah, I'm on X at Ryan J under 1902 01:39:49,340 --> 01:39:51,280 score. He can find all my stuff there, 1903 01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:54,040 all my written work. I have wide receiver, tight end 1904 01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:57,880 and very soon running back model write ups and rankings out on 1905 01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:00,480 fantasypoints.com. That's where you find all my 1906 01:40:00,480 --> 01:40:02,520 written stuff. And then of course, Dynasty 1907 01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:05,360 Points the podcast with Jacob here as well. 1908 01:40:06,480 --> 01:40:09,560 There you go, Blair. You mentioned some stuff you've 1909 01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:12,320 been working on. What can they look forward to at 1910 01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:14,400 Rotavist? Yeah, I've got a lot of cool 1911 01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:16,760 stuff coming up. Obviously the rookie Guide is 1912 01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:18,480 out. We'll have another edition of 1913 01:40:18,480 --> 01:40:22,840 that shortly after the draft. I've got some backfield 1914 01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:24,960 dominator rating stuff coming up. 1915 01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:30,960 And I just saw today that Sean has a new article in the in the 1916 01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:34,040 getting cooked up. So stay tuned for that. 1917 01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:38,600 Awesome. Always an exciting time, Ron. 1918 01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:43,200 Other than spending all your time refreshing mock drafts for 1919 01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:46,560 the most recent Jet selections, what are you up to? 1920 01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:51,000 Just getting back into the swing of things with dynasty over at 1921 01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:55,240 the Rs Dynasty channel. I have a dynasty only channel 1922 01:40:55,240 --> 01:40:57,240 these days. And then of course Ron Stewart 1923 01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:00,160 on YouTube will have my re draft stuff here. 1924 01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:02,720 I know you know, we're starting to get back into bestball. 1925 01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:06,280 Of course the big board's closed up, but I imagine the the BBM 1926 01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:08,920 will be right after the draft. So you can find me on YouTube 1927 01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:15,040 Ron Stewart Rs Dynasty. There you go, Davis and Jacob 1928 01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:17,400 Davis. We have a video redirecting 1929 01:41:17,480 --> 01:41:18,520 right after this. What? 1930 01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:22,320 What are people gonna see? Stream, stream I, I, I've got 1931 01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:25,440 like a bunch of like dynasty like stuff to do. 1932 01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:28,040 Like I've got like, I need to send some trades out. 1933 01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:29,720 I need to do some cuts and stuff. 1934 01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:32,400 So I'm just gonna do that on stream on my new dynasty 1935 01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:33,880 channel. And then I also have a team 1936 01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:37,360 review to do as well. So I'm just gonna knock that all 1937 01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:41,480 out immediately after this. There you go. 1938 01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:45,480 And how about you, Jacob? Yeah, I mean, all, all my pre 1939 01:41:45,480 --> 01:41:49,800 draft content is now done. So I have over over 30,000 words 1940 01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:52,600 of articles on on all of the normal, all of the players in 1941 01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:54,680 this class. I have my pre draft rankings 1942 01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:56,680 locked and loaded. So check that out. 1943 01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:58,760 I'm thinking about thinking and then I don't know what I'm gonna 1944 01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:01,480 do for this week. I hadn't I hadn't envisioned 1945 01:42:01,480 --> 01:42:03,880 myself actually adhering to the schedule I laid out. 1946 01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:05,880 I usually don't. I usually procrastinate. 1947 01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:09,520 So I don't know, I'm gonna like maybe get in the gym, maybe 1948 01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:12,120 gonna go for a run. I'm not sure, but North Dakota. 1949 01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:15,480 Bought me. Do you wanna do your two wide 1950 01:42:15,480 --> 01:42:17,000 receivers tomorrow? Sure. 1951 01:42:17,440 --> 01:42:19,080 Yeah, sure. OK, that sounds great. 1952 01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:24,600 Cool. All right, As for me, just make 1953 01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:28,600 sure if you're thinking about becoming a Tao, submissions are 1954 01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:33,280 open for a little over a week. They lock on NFL draft night, 1955 01:42:33,440 --> 01:42:37,120 April 23rd. I'm up to 60 submissions, some 1956 01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:40,240 really strong ones coming in, including one of Ryan's 1957 01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:43,920 contributors over there. We we need the Dynasty Bros to 1958 01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:45,720 join. So you think you can tout for 1959 01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:47,800 real? There there are there are some 1960 01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:50,200 coming in the dynasty. Bros are real. 1961 01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:54,600 Like I've never, I never really knew how my subscribers broke 1962 01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:57,360 down between like Dynasty, Best Ball, whatever, until I, I 1963 01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:01,160 launched this new chat feature and I have like a thread that's 1964 01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:03,080 like best ball and I have a thread that's Dimes. 1965 01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:05,360 I've gotten like 80 replies to the dynasty, right. 1966 01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:07,640 I'm waiting for the first one on my best ball thread. 1967 01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:10,720 So it's clear that my people are the dynasty, are the dynasty 1968 01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:12,000 virgins. Those are my people. 1969 01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:15,120 Could could it possibly be that nobody wants to play pre draft 1970 01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:17,040 basketball, Jacob? Could it possibly be that? 1971 01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:19,240 It's the one. Year I have, I have some. 1972 01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:22,480 I have some news for you. Ryan Underdog has filled 8 pre 1973 01:43:22,480 --> 01:43:24,320 draft basketball tournaments. They're all full. 1974 01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:26,880 They're all full. I've never drafted more big 1975 01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:27,840 board teams. Not. 1976 01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:31,520 Being able to draft, there were David Gautieri, who God bless 1977 01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:33,680 him, I mean, I don't know anything about him, but he had a 1978 01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:36,480 literal tweet thread that was like, underdog, I'm trying to 1979 01:43:36,480 --> 01:43:39,560 give you money, man. Put the puppy in the bag. 1980 01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:44,800 Put in the bag. Tried to give you 3 to $4.00 in 1981 01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:48,760 rake drafting $102.00. T like I my buddy look, I was 1982 01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:51,360 kind of with I was kind of with them like if there was like a 1983 01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:55,200 nice $20 contest right now that I could do a little Max 3 for 1984 01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:57,360 the fast draft like oh, put that right in my. 1985 01:43:57,440 --> 01:43:59,960 Name I agree. They they they messed up with 1986 01:43:59,960 --> 01:44:02,360 the little board. I I assume it was literally like 1987 01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:04,600 an administrative error. They made it 20 Max. 1988 01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:08,280 They they needed to make it 50 or 75 or 100 Max. 1989 01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:10,760 And it's put them in a weird position where what we should 1990 01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:12,320 have right now is the little board 2. 1991 01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:15,560 It's huge with 100,000 entries that would fill in two weeks. 1992 01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:18,520 But I think they're just gonna keep giving us these small ones. 1993 01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:21,840 Yeah, I mean, you know, for a fact feed, if they launched 5 1994 01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:28,000 minutes from now, a $20 Max 5 entry, 2000 entry, total 1995 01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:30,680 contest, you know you're spending the next three hours of 1996 01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:32,080 your day. It's like you. 1997 01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:36,040 You're I just like when people act like they are going to keep 1998 01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:41,160 underdog in business with their $2.40 of rate. $1.00 you did 1999 01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:44,560 like, yeah. That's how we're gonna pay Josh. 2000 01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:49,720 And hated their salaries. OK, like I said, I believe you 2001 01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:51,440 guys decided Jacob and Davis, right? 2002 01:44:51,440 --> 01:44:53,600 No ADP chasing next week. We're just gonna do. 2003 01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:57,240 The Yeah, because Davis can't stay up past 830 on two days out 2004 01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:59,920 of three in the same week, and I have a board meeting for the 2005 01:44:59,920 --> 01:45:02,360 local circus, so there's two equally. 2006 01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:05,880 Both of those things, both of those things sound like jokes, 2007 01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:08,080 but they're 100% true. Yeah. 2008 01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:11,720 All right. Thank you again to Ron, Blair 2009 01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:14,440 and Ryan. We will do a follow up one of 2010 01:45:14,440 --> 01:45:17,040 these after the draft. We always like to to do that as 2011 01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:18,440 well. So you can stay tuned for that. 2012 01:45:18,440 --> 01:45:22,080 Otherwise we will see you guys next Thursday NFL Draft 2013 01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:25,640 Extravaganza. Until then, this has been ship 2014 01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:26,360 chasing peace.