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We are through six weeks of the 
2025 NFL season, officially 1/3 

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of the way through the NFL 
regular season, and just one 

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game shy of halfway through the 
fantasy regular season. 

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And one of the most monumentous 
events so far this season has 

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occurred today, and that is the 
retirement of David Bell. 

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Oh, he's the manager of the Reds
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This is this is David Bell. 
We should do a highlight reel of

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him managing the Reds. 
Oh man, got to got to play the 

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David Bell clip one last time. 
That one was too good to you 

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know, We couldn't let it go 
quietly into the night. 

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Great clip. 
And yeah, I saw that it was 47 

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seconds long and I was like, do 
I do I click this? 

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Is this how we intro? 
But it it, it was worth it. 

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It was a 47 seconds of bliss. 
Oh, absolutely. 

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I mean, that's that's one of the
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That's when when I hear the 
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that just it tickles all the 
right nostalgia spots. 

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So, but I, I do think that's 
probably we've used up our quota

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of David Bell talk already on 
the show. 

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I think we probably should go 
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quarterback chart. 
You, you should absolutely not 

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drop David Bell. 
David Bell, he can drop. 

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He drops passes, but you should 
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He he's a real real glue guy, 
real locker guy for your fantasy

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teams. 
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So we have the quarterback 
charts last couple of weeks I 

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have done the the show notes, 
but this this week Sack has. 

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So I'm going to let you, you, 
you, you, you take it away. 

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I mean, I'll, I'll go ahead and 
lead lead with the headline 

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here. 
Drake made is absolutely him. 

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I mean, I, I think I had a Drake
may monologue last week. 

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You're going to sit through one 
more Drake May monologue. 

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So I mean, so much of the 
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Stephane Diggs is starting to 
ascend. 

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You know, he's looking like the 
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Maybe that's, you know, really 
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Patriots offense moving? 
Nope, doesn't matter. 

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Drake may can do it with 
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He can do it with Pop Douglas is
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It it truly doesn't matter who 
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He is doing what you see from 
all of the elite quarterbacks in

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the NFL and that he is elevating
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like it's just so clear that you
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is he's the straw that's 
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I have some fun. 
Drake made stats here. 

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So far to this point in the 
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grade, He's 4th in passer 
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He's top ten in big time throws 
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with for big time throws are 
pretty fun. 

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He has the same number of big 
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Patrick Mahomes. 
Those guys might be pretty good.

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I don't know maybe could be he's
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percentage. 
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for Drake May is the pressure to
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He he definitely still do be 
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bit too much. 
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which I think you know, sacks 
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stat, but there is that the 
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offensive line. 
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can improve and Drake may can 
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quite as much. 
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a happy medium where he can 
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saw last year he took a lot of 
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more than he's scrambling this 
year. 

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I think he needs to scramble 
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he bails out a little quicker, 
if that internal clock is just 

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dialed a little better and he 
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And I feel like Jaden Daniels 
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where he takes what should be a 
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made probably let's turn into a 
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He just turns it into like a lot
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It's like a four yard run or 
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But it's still way better than 
taking a sack. 

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And I feel like if you can get 
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nothing standing between him and
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life and in fantasy. 
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He's been fantastic. 
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how do you play the the Drake? 
May is him and I was like, is it

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is it digs? 
It turns out it's it's it's just

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all of the above. 
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that kind of like Josh Allen 
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Gabe Davis, they had and I was 
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cheap pass catcher with with the
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could work it. 
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could be Keyshawn Booty could be
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It's he's got he's going to make
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blocking, so PFF have the 
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they're 20th, so mid table and 
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line is actually doing a lot of 
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getting a very large time to 
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he's, he's a jewel trap. 
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times, but they they I think 
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favor here and that's probably 
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But not not to take anything 
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But do want to note that maybe 
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of this the story or two with 
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Yeah, that's, that's fair. 
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probably some room for for 
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ratio. 
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only thing I really see that has
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OK, another guy who is in a fun 
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like we have to talk about. 
Dylan Gabriel looks like he 

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could be like the most fun, you 
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candidate if they let him just 
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But I wanted to get your take on
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regression candidate or is this 
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Is is he not actually good 
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Oh, not, not a, not a positive 
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And I don't think so. 
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that clip where somebody posted 
like it was like that five worst

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throws in a week. 
And, and it was actually 8 Dylan

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Gabriel trolls and I think he 
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55 drop backs last week. 
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worst, I think is like maybe not
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It's very funny watching that 
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that's going to give you like a 
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And if when I look at the 
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that for the team is at 27th 
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And then the drop rate is 11%. 
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quarterbacks that's going to 
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throw the ball immediately. 
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time. 
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maybe with worse matchups, like 
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a game, they'll have the return 
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But having said that, the 
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us in general. 
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are rolling, they probably just 
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times. 
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eye drop back out. 
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I don't, I don't think Dylan 
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this. 
This chart shows I, I think he's

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probably at career backup level 
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that's good, that's good enough 
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there. 
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he's like a, a, a jammed in. 
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think he's like a great DFS 
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bad for that to like be helpful,
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Yeah, I, I think we're pretty 
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He's like, you know, Bryce Young
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I don't, I, I, I think, I, I 
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better than Bryce Young. 
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Think he's probably played like.
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bad is what I'm saying. 
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percent, I mean, maybe it's 
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percent game, but I, I think I 
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But yeah, I, I think we're, you 
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there in, in the grand scheme of
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that it's not really ADFS play. 
I do like Judkins for the next 

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week against Miami and they, 
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from Judkins this last week. 
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The one thing I will say for 
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nice things to say. 
He really was not getting help 

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from his receivers, Isaiah Bond 
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disgusting drops. 
Like shouldn't be on an NFL 

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field level of, of bad drops. 
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get to the number of plays that 
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by sustaining some drives, 
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So there's something there. 
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bad defenses, you could do worse
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Joe Flacco. 

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That's that's faint praise, but 

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It's still, I'm jury's still out
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that's like an egregious thing 
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But all right, that's we, we've 
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enough time discussing Dylan 
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opposite end of the spectrum and
literal polar opposite on the 

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chart. 
I I know that I feel like I'm 

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doing the thing that you hate to
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the same thing week over week. 
And I I gave Sam Darnold his 

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flowers last week. 
I need to do it one more time 

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because Sam Darnold just keeps 
being awesome. 

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He's keeps being really good. 
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It helps when you have JSN and 
JSN is just awesome. 

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And, you know, winning at all 
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everything. 
But Sam Darnold, like we need to

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put some respect on his name. 
He here's some some fun Sam 

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Darnold stats, you know, to go 
along with he's got crazy 

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adjusted yards per attempt, like
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He's first overall in big time 
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grade, last in turnover worthy 
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So that, that was one thing I 
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started seeing some narrative 
like this last week about how, 

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oh, like he choked away the game
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He threw that last minute 
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them. 
And I looked into it, he again, 

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last in turnover worth he plays.
It's not like Darnold is out 

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there like throwing a bunch of 
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like that. 
And the interception, if you 

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actually watch the game, it 
deflected off of the defender's 

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helmet and then got picked. 
So it wasn't like, oh, he just 

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threw this terrible ball. 
Hey, he was trying to fit in a 

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ball into a tight window in a, 
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situation and it bounces off a 
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deflected and intercepted. 
So I, I just wanted to make it 

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clear that Sam Darnold slander 
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Another guy who I think has been
pretty interesting lately for 

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fantasy. 
And I, I want to get your 

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opinion on this one because I 
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parsing if it was just like two 
good performances, but like more

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noise than signal or if it's, 
hey, this guy's starting to turn

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it around in a new system. 
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He's still not in a a great part
of the chart. 

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I mean, part of that is from how
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of the season were. 
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pretty solid against tough 
defenses, too, played against 

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the Chiefs and against the 
Seahawks. 

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And he put up, you know, 
respectable fantasy days. 

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The Chiefs came up with a lot of
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can, you know, take that away 
from and say, oh, well, that's 

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we we don't get to count that, 
you know, that they do still 

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count for fantasy points. 
But how do you feel about Trevor

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Lawrence going forward? 
So another guy where I think 

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he's benefiting from like a 
massively improved offensive 

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line. 
Their PFF pass blocking grade is

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as fifth in the NFL this year 
and then where I'm pulling up 

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ESPN have them as the third best
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What's hilarious is that I don't
I I see he has a 12.3% drop rate

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and I don't know how Trevor 
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this highly elevated drop rate 
every single year. 

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Part of me is that forced to, 
forced to question like is he, 

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does he just struggle with 
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And then I see plenty of kind of
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this guy is a hospital ball 
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And, and so I, I don't know, I, 
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think Trevor Lawrence is very 
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I think, I do think that he's a 
he's got, he got that run thing.

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So in games where he runs for 
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rushing yard, those are going to
be good. 

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I guess I would be somewhat 
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would improve as they involve 
Travis Hunter more. 

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I'm and obviously it's massively
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best offensive lines in the NFL 
too. 

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So I think, I think there's, 
there's like, I guess what I 

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would say is the environment's 
pretty good. 

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It can get a lot better if they 
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So it could honestly be a 
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I, I, I don't think Trevor 
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So I think you can get good 
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guess I don't, I don't think 
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like NFL star or anything like 
that. 

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Yeah, I think I, I think I agree
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I, I don't know if you saw this,
but it was the highest, highest 

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route rate for Travis Hunter 
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So that's encouraging there. 
And I, I do agree with you, that

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could be, that could be a major 
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If if they do get Travis Hunter 
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of the, you know, Diami Brown 
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Brenton Strange targets, if 
those can be Travis Hunter 

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targets instead, that's a really
big efficiency help. 

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You know, like that's like think
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catchability and you know you 
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Makes the quarterback right on 
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So, so deep balls. 
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I, I mean, those, there are lots
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this nice little salve to, I 
mean, you, you can see Trevor 

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Lawrence needs help in the 
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Like he's down here with BOE, 
Nick Spencer Rattler, Kyler 

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Murray, Like that's not company 
you want to be keeping. 

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But I the things that make me 
optimistic are maybe Brian 

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Thomas can return to the form we
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Maybe they involve Travis Hunter
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see that, you know, boost Trevor
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I also, you know, there's room 
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the stretch and help in some of 
the like screen game and you 

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know, passes out of the 
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So definitely I think that 
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there's room for improvement to 
where he could be borderline 

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useful for fantasy, right. 
But yeah, I thought that was a 

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good one. 
He's he's in a good. 

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Situation that has the potential
to be a great situation. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Well put. 

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As I, I, I think that's the that
that kind of highlights like no.

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And what's funny is his, his 
pressure to sack rate is still 

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like 16 1/2%, which is, and 
that's decently high, especially

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when you consider that he has 
like this fantastic offensive 

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line play. 
And like, I, I, I, I'll say it 

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again, I really don't think he's
good. 

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I really don't think he's good. 
And but the the like you like 

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you're saying encouraged by the 
situation. 

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I, it also could be a thing 
where, you know, we, we saw Liam

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Cohen do so much for, I mean, I,
I also think like it's important

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to separate out like how much of
it was Liam Cohen and how much 

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of it was Baker? 
Cause Baker is just still 

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awesome, you know, but we saw 
Liam Cohen do so much to help 

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Baker. 
Maybe there's still some of that

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like, Hey, this is just growing 
pains in a new offensive system 

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for Trevor Lawrence. 
But I agree with you. 

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Like the underlying he he's not 
going to be like a Baker 

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Mayfield reclamation project, 
you know? 

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Yeah, the the Tang so he he he's
always sucked that he still 

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sucks that in my. 
Opinion That's a great segue 

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into the last quarterback on our
show sheet and that is Justin 

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Fields. 
So are you still sure that 

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Justin Fields isn't getting 
benched because man -10 net 

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passing yards against the 
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Is pretty abysmal and. 
What? 

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What was it like? 
He he true for 45. 

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He threw for 45 and lost 55 via 
Sachs. 

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I I woke up early. 
I woke up early for this game. 

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Draco, I woke up, I got my 
showdown stuff run. 

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I I submitted it. 
I watched the game and I was 

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really upset that I didn't stay 
in bed. 

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It was, it was not a pleasurable
experience watching this 

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football game. 
I mean, Justin Fields isn't the 

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only one to blame for that. 
Bonex is also total hot ass. 

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Like I, I think Bonex kind of 
stinks, man. 

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I think we, I think we got the 
best of Bonex's career already 

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behind us, man. 
He he does not look like a guy 

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that can do it. 
That was The Jets defense is 

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terrible like right. 
The only the only thing, The 

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Jets. 
Do it looks like the the the the

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prime Ravens defense out there? 
Like I forget which year, 2006 

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Ravens or whatever. 
Yeah, the only thing that The 

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Jets do well on defense is they 
can make it really annoying to 

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throw to your number one target 
because Sauce Gardner is going 

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to be on them a lot, you know? 
And so, and that's what 

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happened. 
Like Cortland Sutton really 

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wasn't involved in this game, 
but man, I mean, I want to say 

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like the plurality of the yards 
came from Evan Ingram. 

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Like little dump offs. 
It was it was Evan Ingram. 

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He. 
Was like a key chain mover 

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freedom where like I was out of 
there turret and Fort down was 

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was he got the Rachel green 
targets. 

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Yeah, as a card carrying member 
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you were, I'm sure you were 
seething just watching Evan 

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Ingram be as involved as he was.
And I mean, even me watching it,

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I was like, this is not a 
functional offense, what are we 

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doing? 
So I, I was like happy for him. 

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Like, like it was one of those 
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hey, that's a that's another big
first down for Evan Ingram. 

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But then I think that was still 
like 8 or 9 tight end premium 

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points. 
And it's like that that's the, 

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this is the hater in me. 
It's like, yeah, he he had he 

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had an explosion game. 
And you're still not 

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particularly happy to see him in
your flex. 

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Yeah, I know it's the the guy on
the podium biting the metal and 

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he's all the way down at 12th 
place. 

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Yeah, the, and now we just spent
a lot of time talking about the 

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best of the two quarterbacks in 
this game in Bonex. 

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Yeah, well, we actually wanted 
to talk about Justin. 

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Justin Fields was worse than 
that. 

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So we were we just spent all 
that there is a whole, you know,

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a whole tangent about how shitty
Bonex looked and Justin Fields 

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is even worse. 
I mean, I'm man, it, it's pretty

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frustrating to me because in the
offseason when we were doing 

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rankings, I, I was the one to 
blame for like getting us higher

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on fields. 
That's like, actually, I think 

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that if he's playing like we 
gotta, we gotta move up like the

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expectation for fantasy points, 
which is proving to be correct. 

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You know, like, but you know 
what it cost us? 

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It costs us more. 
Drake may because they were 

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going right at the same spot and
the and I think in hindsight, 

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like the process was correct. 
We should have been more bullish

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on the fantasy production that 
Justin Fields can have. 

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But man, it's just so 
frustrating watching what I 

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think is, you know, the next, 
you know, Josh Allen level best 

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quarterback in the league 
breakout from Drake May thinking

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I took Justin Fields over this 
guy like I took the guy who 

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sure, he'll have some big games,
like on his way to getting 

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benched as The Jets go O and 13 
before they roll out Tyrod 

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Taylor, you know so. 
Stop me if you've heard this 

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before, but part of me does 
wonder if the The Jets are also 

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not using Justin Fields, right? 
But yes. 

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They're not. 
Like what he does well is the 

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rushing and I'm not suggesting 
they should run the wing to you 

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with Justin Fields, but the 
rushing is a big part of his 

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game. 
And then the deep balls that 

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look so, so sexy. 
And I'm looking at his stats 

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here at PFF. 
Say he has zero big time trolls 

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this year. 
Zero. 

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And it's like, well, that's the 
thing that Justin Fields is good

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for. 
What do you mean he hasn't done 

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it so far this year? 
And it's it's so frustrating 

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because his strengths are 
complementary to each other. 

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Right. 
You hey, let's attack them 

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downfield. 
OK well now we're creating space

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in the short and intermediate 
area of the field, which makes 

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it nicer for Justin Fields runs.
It makes it better for handoffs 

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to Bruce Hall like it it does 
everything and and it makes his 

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life easier. 
He can't read a defense to save 

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his life right. 
But in those in the in plays 

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where you're actually like 
threatening the defense deep and

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then he's like, oh God, I got a 
bail. 

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If you give him a lot more room 
to operate on the underneath 

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stuff, you're at least making it
easier for him. 

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But instead they're just 
insistent on all these Garrett 

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Wilson like 5 yard outs, man, or
like these little comebacks. 

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And it's like, dude, that is 
just not Justin Fields. 

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It's easy for him. 
Get him out of the pocket. 

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Do the half roll out thing where
you have like you cut the field 

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in half, you have the, you have 
the low and then you work the 

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high. 
Like, I feel like he's smart 

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enough. 
Everybody's smart enough to make

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that read. 
Yeah, the dude and just the like

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forcing him to be like a a 
timing quarterback like hey, you

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just need to, you know, just. 
Let's let's run the West Coast 

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offense. 
Throw with anticipation, Justin.

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Read the defense. 
Justin Like, dude, you're, 

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you're asking a double amputee 
to run a marathon like it didn't

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happen, right? 
Just let him let him do what he 

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could do. 
So I don't know what the 

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frustrating part is. 
I don't think Aaron Glenn gets 

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fired. 
He's a first year head coach. 

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Like they're they're, you know, 
they're The Jets. 

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So they do crazy shit, but 
they're not gonna, you know, 

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just kick their first year head 
coach to the curb so quickly and

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and then let us. 
That's expensive, too. 

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Yeah. 
So I think that the you you're 

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stuck with either they just 
don't figure it out and 

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eventually Justin Fields gets 
benched for Tyrod Taylor because

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Tyrod can do the things that 
they're trying to do, or the 

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coaching staff figures out like,
maybe we should try letting 

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Justin play Justin ball, Which 
also is confusing to me because 

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I feel like Aaron Glenn was 
super vocal about like, oh, 

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yeah. 
Like we really want Justin 

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Fields because he was, you know,
he gave us so much trouble when 

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I was in Detroit. 
Like, yeah, Justin Fields is, 

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you know, the exact kind of 
quarterback I want. 

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I know what to do with him. 
It's like, do you do you know 

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what to do with him? 
Like it's really frustrating 

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because he could be so fun and 
you could really. 

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Hide our generation's Tim Tebow.
You could totally hide the ugly 

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stuff with him. 
Yeah, You know, it doesn't have 

442
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,960
to be as bad as they're making 
it, but it's really bad right 

443
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,240
now, so. 
And then I, I don't know if let 

444
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:13,160
me see if I have the no, I don't
have it. 

445
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,480
Oh, oh, yeah, I do have it. 
I do have it. 

446
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:21,240
So one thing that Pat was kind 
of noting on, on the PROE, 

447
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,200
obviously they, they had one of 
the, I think they, they had like

448
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:31,760
and -15% or like -20% PROE. 
So like they were running the 

449
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,920
crap out of the ball. 
But one thing that you can do to

450
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,520
make things easier for your 
quarterback is, is passing more 

451
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,960
on 1st down because like, that's
when you have the, the 

452
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:48,120
optionality. 
But they damn it, why am I why 

453
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:54,520
am I not finding this? 
They had a a -, 6% PREOE on 1st 

454
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,960
down as well. 
All right, so that that that's 

455
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,800
for the year. 
I don't have AI know that was 

456
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,960
very it was it was worse than 
that in the last game, But like 

457
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,280
they're they're not like there's
very easy things you can do. 

458
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,000
There's like play action, 
there's motion, stuff like that 

459
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:13,680
that they're not doing and 
that's frustrating. 

460
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:19,040
But I guess the the pushback we 
got from before was hey, they 

461
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,120
are not going to bench this guy.
He's got the contract and the 

462
00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:26,040
backup is to Rod. 
So like it's not like there's an

463
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,880
exciting young player that kind 
of come up behind them. 

464
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,120
This is the pushback that we 
got. 

465
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:36,280
I think the problem is the the 
environment is so bad and 

466
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,400
they're losing these games. 
Their offensive production is 

467
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:47,800
terrible that that can only 
happen so many times before 

468
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:53,400
before the hook comes out. 
So I, I, I, what we're saying, 

469
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,920
we feel pretty vindicated that 
that that that's a very distinct

470
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:03,480
possibility, very distinct risk 
going forward given that he's 

471
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,240
continued to kind of play that 
early. 

472
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,120
Yeah, I mean, my my rooting 
interest is that they figure it 

473
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:15,080
out and run a more friendly. 
Yeah, but and and I mean, even 

474
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:20,080
for fantasy, like I'm not saying
he's unplayable in DFS or 

475
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,440
anything like that. 
You know, he he like he is still

476
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,640
good for the massive nuclear 
spike weeks because he can do 

477
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,680
the Justin Fields things. 
You know, the problem is just 

478
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,840
they're setting him up for 
failure and he's I mean like 

479
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,520
he's the one that's out there 
failing. 

480
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,480
You know, it's not it's not just
that he's being set up for 

481
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,880
failure. 
He like you, you would hope 

482
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,200
right his. 
Weaknesses are still his 

483
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,400
weaknesses. 
Yeah. 

484
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,720
And and they do not appear to be
getting better, but I think 

485
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,080
that's enough quarterback talk. 
Let's move on to the running 

486
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,920
back chart. 
Yep, we move on. 

487
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,240
So I just as a reminder to 
everybody, this is 4 weeks 

488
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,640
rolling. 
So we're not including week one 

489
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,240
or two in these numbers. 
It's week three. 

490
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,440
True true 6. 
Yeah, as as the weeks roll on, 

491
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,160
Kenneth Walker is going to get 
knocked off his chart. 

492
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,600
He's he's going to be squarely 
in the backups as these weeks 

493
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,960
roll on. 
But I, I do need to, to begin 

494
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,080
this chart with a capitulation. 
Last week we talked about Tony 

495
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,040
Pollard and how dead he was. 
And there was disagreement to 

496
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:33,000
the degree of dead that he was. 
And Draco is very right that 

497
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,120
Tony Pollard was super duper 
mega all the way dead. 

498
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,040
I said, yeah, he probably loses 
some of the past game work to to

499
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:46,200
Tajae Spears and it's he did 
keep some, but definitely not 

500
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,040
enough to be fantasy relevant. 
Here's The funny thing of the 10

501
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,400
snaps, he's out there for, you 
know, rushing plays, he gets he 

502
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,280
gets the ball all 10 times like 
they're when he's out there, 

503
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,520
they're giving it to him. 
Then here's the other. 

504
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,840
This is the weird thing. 
And this is the part I actually 

505
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,320
want your help parsing. 
So I, I need to, we're going to 

506
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,920
put a pin in the capitulation. 
Tony Pollard's dead. 

507
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,880
We agree on that. 
Now let's live in the universe 

508
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,280
where it's like, how dead is he 
and is he dead forever? 

509
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,600
Because Spears was terrible as a
pass blocker. 

510
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,360
His pass blocking snaps were 
atrocious. 

511
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:25,600
I think he was the lowest graded
pass blocker by PFF on the week.

512
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,640
I didn't, I didn't check that, 
but he was excused at the very 

513
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,360
bottom. 
You know, I'm sure that over 

514
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,000
some certain threshold he was 
one of the worst pass blockers. 

515
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,200
He did get a ton of snaps in the
passing game, right? 

516
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,840
And so, so he, he had five, he 
had five pass blocking and and 

517
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:51,600
26 routes, yeah, versus 13 for 
Pollard on the routes, 2 pass 

518
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,760
blocks. 
Yeah. 

519
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,840
And and so, I mean, we've seen 
this film before play out for 

520
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,640
Tajay Spears where, oh, we're 
going to use more Tajay Spears 

521
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,640
or we're going to use more Tajay
Spears and then he just doesn't 

522
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,120
get used more. 
And so it didn't really work 

523
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,040
this week. 
It wasn't like what a 

524
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,400
revelation. 
And so I wonder if that's a, you

525
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,640
know, overtime it does go back 
to more Pollard. 

526
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,480
And he's. 
I mean, here's the other thing. 

527
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,200
Like, I don't think anyone was 
expecting Tony Pollard to be 

528
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,640
like a league winner or anything
like that after we saw what the 

529
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,240
Titans were going to be this 
year, right? 

530
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,880
Like you, you have an offense 
that bad like the. 

531
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,760
Right, we we had noted that we 
didn't noted that earlier yeah, 

532
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,520
in the year where it's like hey,
they're this bad. 

533
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,000
It's not we we there was a 
potential for for league winner 

534
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,480
Tony Pollard area on with the 
like near 100% snap rate. 

535
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,560
But now you're you're for a 
while, he was a happy a guy. 

536
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,760
You were happy to play in your 
like in your in your lineup, but

537
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,720
that that we, we've obviously 
degraded past that. 

538
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,040
Yeah, at this point, you're just
praying that he returns to be 

539
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,600
Tony Chaperoni for, you know, 
your, your rookies that are that

540
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,200
are still coming on. 
But right now, like, he's just, 

541
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,520
you know, he might get you 8 
points in a week, you know, 

542
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,800
because Lord knows there aren't 
any touchdowns being scored by 

543
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,760
this offense. 
So there's volatility that gets 

544
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,080
injected with the Callahan 
firing and the fact that Spears 

545
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,840
still looks like Tajae Spears. 
But I I do think that, you know,

546
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,440
overall the sentiment is pretty 
bearish for Tony Pollard. 

547
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,000
If there's, you know, if you're 
in a if you're in a league with 

548
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,480
trades, like there's no way 
you're trading Tony Pollard for 

549
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,920
anything valuable, But maybe you
could toss him in as like a in a

550
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,520
package deal where he doesn't 
look quite so bad yet. 

551
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,680
You know, he has a bunch of 
games with a lot of 

552
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,400
opportunities and then a down 
game to the undiscerning eye. 

553
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,920
But like, I I don't I don't 
really want Tony Pollard on any 

554
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,280
season long roster in 
basketball. 

555
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,600
I'm hoping he gives me a couple 
chaperone weeks, but yeah, looks

556
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,080
bleak. 
Another guy who's in a really 

557
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,520
awful team situation. 
The only the only thing I'd say 

558
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:10,840
about Spears and he is indeed 
pretty bad. 

559
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:19,600
So what's what's what's weird 
for me is that what's weird for 

560
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,800
me is that they said this guy 
was terrible. 

561
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:29,639
Like they gave him this 28.2 
what you call it pass blocking 

562
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:31,480
rating. 
So like one of the worst on the 

563
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,639
week. 
And how many pressures do you 

564
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:38,840
think he gave up? 
And that God awful pass blocking

565
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,040
for his five pass blocks. 
I mean, with the way you frame 

566
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,159
the question, I'll go with 0. 
Yeah, it's zero. 

567
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:50,960
So like, I I I don't know, I 
don't know, maybe he got smoked 

568
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,360
and and Cam Ward just got the 
ball out so quick. 

569
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,480
But that doesn't sound like Cam 
Ward. 

570
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,920
And then when, when his and the 
other thing with Spears is his 

571
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,920
receiving grade. 
Fantastic. 

572
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,160
Yes, yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, like, and if you look at 

573
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,720
overall offensive PFF grades, 
like Spears is the only one in 

574
00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:14,280
the like mediocre to good 
category of like the entire 

575
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,840
offense other than two offensive
guards. 

576
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,480
Yeah, no, it's bad. 
I feel like talking about the 

577
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,600
Titans is Plus, you know, I feel
like we're in Jurassic Park, 

578
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,040
digging through a mountain of 
dinosaur shit looking for the. 

579
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,480
Yeah, yeah, people were just the
the the chat is just crying like

580
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,960
Chris G is mourning his his 
Tennessee bikes and and people 

581
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,760
are people are feeling the pain 
and you're right, we should 

582
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,080
probably move on you. 
You try to. 

583
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:42,680
Move on. 
And I was like, no. 

584
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,080
The bad news is there's cell 
phone. 

585
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,320
We're just elbow deep in a 
mountain of shit for nothing. 

586
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,960
So let's let's move from one 
shit pile to the next. 

587
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,680
And that is briefs who 
incredible workload, 22 carries,

588
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,000
like guys getting work in the 
passing game too. 

589
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,600
Here's the problem. 
The team is atrocious. 

590
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:10,840
So it's 22 carries for 59 yards.
I mean, God, prior to even even 

591
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,600
like going through week five, I 
was like, you know, you hear all

592
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,600
the rumors about, oh, The Jets 
might trade Briefs and I don't 

593
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,480
really think those are all that 
substantiated. 

594
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,880
I think a lot of it is just 
fantasy football wish casting 

595
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,440
more than anything. 
But I was like, I don't think 

596
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,800
you want a a breeze trade. 
Like he's got a great role. 

597
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,880
You know, Justin Field should 
theoretically be able to help 

598
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,000
the rushing efficiency there if 
the offense can be borderline 

599
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,000
functional. 
But it's just so far from 

600
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,120
functional as we discussed that 
I'm I'm starting to come around 

601
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,800
to like a trade might be a good 
thing. 

602
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,360
And then we already talked about
like the shake up of the 

603
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,080
organization. 
I don't think you get a Glen 

604
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,280
firing your other shake up could
be like a field's benching, but 

605
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,000
I don't really think Tyrod 
coming in is a huge boost to 

606
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,040
Breece. 
The offense gets like a shade 

607
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,120
more functional, but I I don't 
know man, what? 

608
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,040
What are your thoughts on Breece
going forward here? 

609
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:14,240
So I did, I do think didn't Adam
Schefter put Breece in? 

610
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:17,240
It's like this guy could get 
traded article like I know he 

611
00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:24,320
put a lot of names in there, but
I, I don't like just to give 

612
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,680
Adam Schefter some credit. 
I don't think he just does that.

613
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,720
Like usually there's, there's 
like he knows something he can't

614
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:34,520
say while he's doing a thing, 
but he's like he chose out those

615
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:39,280
little scraps. 
So like I, I, I do think earlier

616
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,360
in, in sorry in the offseason, I
agree just with you that it was 

617
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,640
very unlikely. 
Now I think it's it's a very 

618
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,880
real possibility just because 
given where the team is at, it's

619
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:57,280
the last year of his contract, 
he's clearly he's got trade 

620
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:02,560
value, which is good for them. 
And I don't know. 

621
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,800
I don't know that the role is so
good that a trade would be bad 

622
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:10,040
for him. 
Like he's he's got it now. 

623
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:14,520
What's good is that he's has a 
stranglehold on rush attempts 

624
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,520
and that he's Breeze Hall. 
So I don't, even though the risk

625
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,000
rush attempts weren't great 
against the Broncos, I think 

626
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,680
overall they will be good just 
because he's breeze Hall, but I 

627
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,760
think he'll be breeze hall on 
the rush attempts anywhere. 

628
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,560
So I guess he got a stranglehold
on the rush attempts. 

629
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:44,360
He's he's splitting the past 
routes with Isaiah Davis, which,

630
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,080
you know, fair enough, 70%. 
He's at a 70% snap share. 

631
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:55,200
That feels kind of appropriate 
where you don't want to just you

632
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,760
don't want to squeeze every 
little bit of juice out of 

633
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,080
money. 
And he's got nothing left by the

634
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:06,120
end of the year when the I guess
when The Jets play better 

635
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,240
matchups, he's going to be, he's
obviously going to have better 

636
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:17,560
days. 
I'm how do I, I guess I'm 

637
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,480
rambling a bit, but he's still 
breathe hall. 

638
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:26,520
You get 20 carries a game and 
maybe maybe he's around 5 yards 

639
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,800
per attempt. 
He breaks off some long runs. 

640
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:33,280
Maybe he can, he can catch a 
target and he can turn that into

641
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:40,360
something I he's not like, he's 
not like one of the best running

642
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:45,960
back plays or projections going 
forward, but he's got, he's got 

643
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,040
massive upside every week is 
probably the way I put it. 

644
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,720
And and I, I I would actually be
happy with a trade. 

645
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,200
Yeah, that's what I think. 
Yeah, I know. 

646
00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:57,640
I'm, I'm there now. 
I wasn't there before. 

647
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,680
But we will refrain from the 
very masturbatory exercise of 

648
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,520
fantasizing about Breece Hall 
trade landing spots, even though

649
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,720
that's what I want to do in my 
heart of hearts, because we need

650
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:13,280
to talk about. 
What is going to happen in the 

651
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,040
Carolina backfield when Chuba is
back? 

652
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,960
Because Rico Dowdell just 
absolutely deployed the 

653
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,240
intercontinental ballistic 
missile in back-to-back weeks. 

654
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:30,200
Also, all time quotes from my 
guy, Rico Dowdell tells tells 

655
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,040
his former teammates. 
You better buckle up those chin 

656
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,360
straps before the game, after 
the game, after he drops his 2nd

657
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,080
consecutive 30 burger of fantasy
points. 

658
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,920
Second, you know, back-to-back 
200 yards of scrimmage games. 

659
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,480
He says they wasn't buckled up. 
I mean, damn, that's ice cold, 

660
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,520
man. 
I so much, so much respect for 

661
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:58,360
Rico. 
Dude, you know, UDFA just yeah, 

662
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,320
got to got to love Rico that 
that was awesome to see. 

663
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,880
Super happy for him to have such
a great game against the team 

664
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,440
that had no real business not re
signing him. 

665
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,480
Like you needed to keep that 
roster spot open for Miles 

666
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,120
Sanders. 
Like you really needed that 

667
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,160
extra $2,000,000 that you didn't
end up to Cowboys went into the 

668
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,960
season with a truckload of caps 
face because they botched the 

669
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,040
Micah Parsons thing. 
Like, I don't know man, kind of 

670
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,280
feels like an extra 2,000,000 
bucks just to keep Rico around 

671
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,640
instead of Miles Sanders really 
would have helped. 

672
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,960
But how, how does this affect 
Chuba going forward here? 

673
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,200
Now that I mean, the Rico genie 
is kind of out of the bottle, 

674
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:45,280
right? 
So they were if, if I'm looking 

675
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,840
at if I'm looking at their, 
their kind of splits. 

676
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,360
So week 1 was massive Chuba 
workload. 

677
00:41:52,680 --> 00:42:00,600
Week 2 was Chuba 10 attempts, 
Rico 6 weak tree was 17 attempts

678
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:06,800
for Tuba 10 for Rico. 
Then it was 10 and 9 and that's 

679
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:12,880
probably the week that they got 
injured and you're and and that 

680
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,840
and and weak tree. 
It was also 12 reps 7. 

681
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,200
So I feel like they would, they 
were, it was probably like a 

682
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:28,480
6040 split even before the 
injury or at least it was 

683
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,880
trending that way. 
I don't know. 

684
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,360
I think that's kind of the way 
it goes back to like if I'm 

685
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:40,520
looking at kind of the Longview 
stuff where they obviously they 

686
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:47,240
paid, they paid Hubbard a good 
amount of money and, and, and 

687
00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:49,080
that probably gives him some 
insulation. 

688
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,360
It probably, it probably comes 
back as like A1A1B is what I'd 

689
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,840
say. 
And maybe maybe 2 drives go to 

690
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,360
Tuba, one drive goes to Rico 
like where it won't be like a a 

691
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:06,480
clear rush and and and route and
split or pass and and and and 

692
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:11,280
and rush split. 
Yeah, I, I think that's, that is

693
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,440
definitely my, my read as well. 
It's gonna, it's gonna go back 

694
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,920
to where it's Tuba's job, but 
Rico will be much more involved 

695
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,400
than he was previously. 
Probably deflates the tuba value

696
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:28,360
a little bit. 
It's kind of I I mean, I think 

697
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:33,120
we can reasonably say that if 
Chuba never gets hurt and they 

698
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,000
play, you know, these last two 
games, Chuba also puts up 

699
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,040
nuclear fantasy scores. 
You know, Chuba was really good 

700
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,800
last year. 
He had like a little bit of a 

701
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,520
slower start to this season, but
then they get their two best 

702
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,480
rushing matchups of the season 
and Rico happens to take him. 

703
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,680
So I I think it's probably 
painting Chuba in a little bit 

704
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,480
of an unfair light to be like, 
Rico's been so much better. 

705
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,520
It's like, I don't really know 
about that. 

706
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,320
So, and I think you're right 
with the team really likes 

707
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,880
Chuba. 
Like they extended this guy when

708
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,040
they did not need to extend him 
and they gave him a lot of 

709
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,720
money. 
Just because they wanted to 

710
00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:10,280
reward his good play. 
Yeah. 

711
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,640
And so it's like, OK, well, 
they, they, they, they're not 

712
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,760
going to give up on that guy. 
Yeah, they're. 

713
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,720
Just honestly, I think Rico was 
probably playing himself into a,

714
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,440
into a 40% split before the 
Chuba injury. 

715
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,640
Like just based on, based on, 
on, on the week to week stuff 

716
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:33,800
here and, and, and and like 
that. 

717
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,640
That makes me feel stronger 
about that being the split When 

718
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,640
when, when Chuba is back. 
Yep, yeah, fully agree there. 

719
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,800
OK, we, we need to talk about, I
feel like that's a, a more fun 

720
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,760
situation. 
You know, we, we get to talk 

721
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,040
about, you know, the new, the 
new and fun, exciting things 

722
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:57,240
happening for Rico Dowdell and 
looking like a, a fun backfield 

723
00:44:57,240 --> 00:45:00,080
with, you know, potentially 2 
solid NFL running backs. 

724
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,320
Now we have to talk about a 
really depressing situation. 

725
00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:06,080
And he's right above Rico on the
chart here. 

726
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:08,760
So as far as like the role and 
the usage he's getting, you 

727
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,920
know, he's getting a lot of 
volume and that's Chase Brown. 

728
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,880
But I have really bad news, 
Draco, and that is Chase Brown 

729
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,680
is the second best running back 
on the Cincinnati Bengals right 

730
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,240
now. 
And I don't say that lightly. 

731
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,880
I I say that having watched 
Chase Brown and having watched 

732
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,960
Semaj P Ryan and I didn't just 
want to, you know, ball know 

733
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:31,000
where this I went and and backed
it up with the PFF stats. 

734
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,800
So P Ryan higher PFF rushing 
grade than Chase Brown this 

735
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,320
season, substantially higher 
elusive rating. 

736
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,960
P Ryan is ranked #28 on the 
season, Chase Brown is ranked 

737
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:49,920
#71 And like, if you watch it, 
Chase Brown just doesn't, 

738
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,720
doesn't look super great, man. 
I, I think so much of last 

739
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:55,440
season was, and he wasn't 
efficient last season either. 

740
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,920
Like that's the, and we've 
talked about that before. 

741
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,000
You know, it's just, hey, on the
back of a lot of volume and 

742
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,120
really good offense, he can be a
bell cow, which is a really 

743
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,760
like, that is a valuable trait. 
You know, we're not trying to 

744
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,160
take anything away from from 
Chase Brown. 

745
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,920
It's just he's not terribly 
efficient. 

746
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,760
And now that you get a really 
bad offensive situation, it 

747
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,520
really rears its ugly head here.
So I wanted to play a game. 

748
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,680
How over is it for Chase Brown? 
I'm going to ask you a couple 

749
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,640
running backs and this is for 
like season long redraft. 

750
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,680
So you'd have to choose one to 
start these guys. 

751
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,320
You tell me if you'd rather have
the guy that I say or Chase 

752
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,200
Brown. 
So first one, Ramondra 

753
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,640
Stevenson. 
Probably, yeah. 

754
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,560
Probably Romandre, Zach 
Charbonnay. 

755
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,000
Probably Charbonnay. 
Kamani Vidal. 

756
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,080
Oh, man. 
Right now it's Vidal. 

757
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,520
But Vidal has a pretty good role
right now. 

758
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,400
OK, last one, RJ Harvey, you're 
Chase Brown. 

759
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,160
It's probably probably, probably
Chase Brown still there, 

760
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,160
unfortunately. 
Yeah, Yeah, that's a gross one. 

761
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,760
I mean, why do you are? 
Are you to the point? 

762
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,640
Like, are you cutting him? 
You're not cutting him in a 

763
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,200
redraft league, right? 
He's just like, so he's just a 

764
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,400
disgusting roster clogger at 
this point. 

765
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:26,840
So to be fair, on, on, on. 
And the last week's splits in 

766
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:32,840
terms of snaps wasn't like a a 
best approximation given how 

767
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:38,280
down the Bengals were. 
But he he some IGP Ryan actually

768
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,280
led the team in running back 
steps. 

769
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:46,240
And so I probably a lot of that 
was 2 minute real stuff. 

770
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,280
Hurry up trying to chase the 
game. 

771
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:54,680
But that even like when you were
dropping Chase Brown in the 

772
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,280
second or some people dropped 
him in the second round or turn 

773
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,920
round in the offseason, it would
not have been even a remote 

774
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:06,760
possibility for you that semi JP
Ryan could lead the team and and

775
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,120
snaps in a given game where 
where there's not an injury or 

776
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:17,240
something like that. 
So do you do you drop Chase 

777
00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:22,880
Brown? 
I I, I don't know, like it 

778
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,600
depends on how short the bench 
is like. 

779
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,520
Like pretend I have to pick 
between dropping Harold Fannin 

780
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,080
or Chase Brown. 
Who do I drop? 

781
00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:36,520
Probably, Probably Chase Brown. 
Chase Brown or I have to drop 

782
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,160
Travis Hunter. 
Who do I drop? 

783
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,640
Chase Brown. 
Chase Brown or I have to drop 

784
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:46,760
who's a who's like a pretty 
shitty one. 

785
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:52,440
I mean, you, you, you hold on to
you, you hold on to RJ Harvey 

786
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,720
over him even though you'd start
Chase Brown over him right now, 

787
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:01,920
right? 
Like yeah, you'd. 

788
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,280
Hold 2 like Chase. 
Brown is like the median, the 

789
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,800
median shitter running back that
you pick up on the waiver wire 

790
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,520
where like there's been an 
injury and somebody's going to 

791
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,360
have a 50% snap share and 
they're going to get a couple of

792
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,720
calories. 
They might get a target or two 

793
00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:21,760
and you hope they score eight 
points that that's Chase Brown 

794
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,040
right now. 
So do you mean to tell me that 

795
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:28,120
if we did the like, you know, 
faceless player, like who's that

796
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,480
Pokémon style graphic where you 
can't tell who it is? 

797
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,840
You're telling me, Chase Brown, 
Michael Carter, that's 

798
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,120
basically, that's the same shit 
right now? 

799
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,600
I think, yeah. 
I mean, I think you probably 

800
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,800
start Michael Carter over Chase 
Brown right now. 

801
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,520
OK, let's end the pain for the 
Chase ground drafters. 

802
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,840
We'll move on to a different 
running back that we're going to

803
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,200
need to rag on. 
Let's move to the next chart 

804
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,800
because this guy lives in the 
backups chart despite being 

805
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,880
drafted as high as the third 
round near end of best of all 

806
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,800
draft season. 
That's Trayvon Henderson 

807
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:11,280
currently dead last and rush 
yards over expected for Kerry 

808
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:16,360
this last week. 
Now I I do have some good news 

809
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,720
for the Travion managers. 
You know, you're sitting there 

810
00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:22,520
Travion Henderson on your 
redraft team, much like myself, 

811
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,120
you know, got him, got him in a 
keeper redraft auction league. 

812
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,880
So excited to draft him. 
Got him cheap. 

813
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,640
Going to keep him for cheap next
year. 

814
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,400
Antonio Gibson tears his ACL 
last week to very unfortunate, 

815
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,520
but probably a big benefit for 
Travion Henderson, right. 

816
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,040
He's going to see a lot more 
work. 

817
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,640
Actually, no Trevion Henderson 
saw his lowest snap share of the

818
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,600
season this last week. 
And but that's because that now,

819
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,560
listen, Draco, that's because 
the Patriots are playing a real 

820
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,680
juggernaut of an opponent. 
They were just in a tight game 

821
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,080
the whole time. 
They're really, there wasn't an 

822
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,160
opportunity. 
They couldn't risk getting 

823
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,560
Trevion out on the field against
the mighty, mighty New Orleans 

824
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,320
Saints. 
You know, they couldn't risk 

825
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,600
dropping a game to that 
juggernaut. 

826
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,200
So, yeah, man, it looks bad for 
Trivion Henderson. 

827
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:15,680
The I mean, the thesis of like, 
hey, he he was a very good 

828
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,320
prospect. 
Like, I think that's pretty 

829
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,200
indisputable. 
I I don't want people to get gas

830
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,760
into like, oh, Trivion Henderson
was never good. 

831
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,960
Like, that's not correct. 
But him being a contributing 

832
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:32,480
fantasy player in 2025 really 
looks like it's going to follow 

833
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:37,680
the curve of like you're going 
to wait deep into the season for

834
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:42,600
this guy to and like something 
has to change with it's not just

835
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,840
an opportunity thing because his
efficiency is terrible. 

836
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,520
He's he's the least efficient 
running back in the league 

837
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,200
measured by rush yards over 
expected. 

838
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,080
So any any thoughts on the 
abysmal Trayvon Henderson start 

839
00:51:54,080 --> 00:52:06,520
to the season? 
And so I'm still I guess he the 

840
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,720
the rush yards over expected per
attempt is on 41 attempts. 

841
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,360
So he has 3.6. 
He's averaged six 3.6 yards per 

842
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,400
carry. 
He did get 9 carries in the last

843
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,920
game. 
So like it was probably one of 

844
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,200
his higher even though the snap 
rate was low. 

845
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,800
They're using, they're using 
Romandre as they're receiving 

846
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,400
back, the primary receiving 
back. 

847
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:35,120
They they still are giving 
Henderson more carries. 

848
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:43,400
So he's I, I bet he's still got 
more touches and on his, on his 

849
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:51,000
41 attempt so far this year, he 
has forced 5 missed tackles and 

850
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,600
but then his long, his long run 
is only 14. 

851
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:05,080
I guess the only thing I would 
say is that like when this guy 

852
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,040
gets in the open field, he's 
like lightning fast. 

853
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,600
And it's kind of perplexing that
we haven't seen that yet. 

854
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:19,520
Like would you be that shocked 
if he if in the next game he 

855
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:24,680
gets in the open field and he 
just blazes down like he gets 

856
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:30,160
like a massive, massive gain for
like he scores like 60 or 70 

857
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:31,840
yard touchdown. 
No, not in the. 

858
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,440
Not in the slightest. 
Would not shock. 

859
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:34,560
Me. 
But that's gonna happen this 

860
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,120
year, right? 
Yeah. 

861
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,520
I If you you don't know when 
it's gonna happen. 

862
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:42,160
If you made me bet on Will 
Trayvon Henderson. 

863
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,440
Score greater than a 30 yard 
touchdown at some point this 

864
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,200
season. 
I I would definitely take the 

865
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,920
yes, you know, like right so and
it's like. 

866
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,120
Weird that it hasn't happened, 
but it's also weird that it 

867
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:57,600
hasn't happened yet. 
It it is, and I mean, I don't 

868
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,200
know about you, but personally, 
my, you know, elite receiving 

869
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,520
back prospect, you know, one of,
if not the best receiving back 

870
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,240
in the class, best pass blocking
back in the class, getting 

871
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,800
losing the work to Ramondra 
Stevenson in the passing game 

872
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,080
doesn't feel great. 
No, no. 

873
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,760
So some of that stuff is bad, 
like where? 

874
00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:23,200
Why aren't they using them as a 
receiver like? 

875
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:28,520
It's got to. 
Yeah, 6 routes and he did get 2 

876
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,800
targets on his six routes. 
So I mean, you're coming off a 

877
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,000
game where he had 11 touches. 
Yeah. 

878
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:39,840
So like that part is good and 
like, I know they've hit him for

879
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,520
wheel routes and stuff like 
that. 

880
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,320
I don't know, like I'm still 
like. 

881
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,560
It's just I'm not rating the 
heart of. 

882
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,800
Hell and and say wave the white 
flag, Trayvon Henderson. 

883
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:55,080
No, no, that's not what I don't 
think that's what we are doing 

884
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,120
here. 
I think it's more along the 

885
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:02,560
lines of like, this is this is a
you have to drag his body to the

886
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,840
playoffs kind of thing to get 
yeah, for for this guy to be 

887
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,120
good for you. 
And and that's not to say like 

888
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:12,320
there's no way Trayvon Henderson
is useful before Week 14. 

889
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,840
I think how you described it 
kind of illustrates like the 

890
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,640
nature of the Treveon Henderson 
play. 

891
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,960
You need a genie is out of the 
bottle kind of moment where it's

892
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:25,920
like, yeah, OK, Even Vrabel with
his like hard O mentality of, 

893
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,360
oh, this guy's making mistakes 
or not doing the little things 

894
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:33,080
correctly, which like a lot of 
that is getting pointed out by, 

895
00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:35,440
you know, people grinding film 
on Twitter. 

896
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,880
Like you're seeing, oh, he 
actually missed the block that 

897
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,080
caused Antonio Gibson's ACL to 
get blown up or oh, he missed 

898
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,000
this pass protection assignment 
or, you know, he you know, this 

899
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,280
route wasn't run correctly or 
all all these little things 

900
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,200
where, hey, he he missed this 
hole on this run. 

901
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:55,160
And and that's why for Abel 
benched him like you're getting 

902
00:55:55,160 --> 00:56:00,840
all these things brought up. 
And I think maybe it's just that

903
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:05,160
Vrabel is letting those be more 
of a barrier to opportunity than

904
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,960
some other coaches would, but 
that matters for him. 

905
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:13,240
And, and so you're just, you're 
basically hoping for these plays

906
00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:16,760
that are like 2% outcomes where 
it's like, hey, these super 

907
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,840
explosive plays where this guy 
does get into open field and or 

908
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,160
like do something extremely 
special and show off his skill 

909
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,320
set. 
Like they don't happen terribly 

910
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,920
frequently, but when they do, 
that's what makes the guy 

911
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,520
special. 
And then you'd hope that over 

912
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,880
time, like he's able to do them 
at a little bit of a higher 

913
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,520
frequency as he develops as a 
player and gets more used to the

914
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,440
NFL. 
But it's like, OK, so he's got 

915
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,840
41 carries so far. 
And he's, you know, in our 

916
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,160
hypothetical universe, he 
delivers these special genie out

917
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,360
of the bottle type plays 2% of 
the time. 

918
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:53,480
Very realistic to not have hit 
one of those yet on 41 attempts.

919
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,840
So you're just like you're 
getting a little unlucky in that

920
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:00,000
the attempts. 
And you hit one of those and all

921
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,320
of a sudden he's positive rush 
yards over. 

922
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:03,520
Right. 
That's the other. 

923
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,520
That's the other thing with like
low volume rush yards over 

924
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,680
expected. 
I do. 

925
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,240
I know rush yards over expected 
does it's definitely 

926
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:14,320
directionally accurate on guys. 
Right. 

927
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,920
Yeah, no, it's helpful. 
It's but it's good to look at. 

928
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,840
Yeah, it's not. 
Like success rate, yes, and 

929
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,120
other things like that. 
It's it's helpful to look at. 

930
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,880
But I think I think more, more 
so with it's more helpful, you 

931
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:31,000
know, for success rate than it 
is for like just saying more 

932
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:38,000
RYOE good, less RYOE bad because
it's it's easier to accumulate a

933
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,800
bunch of these little negative 
RYOE plays like he has. 

934
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:46,600
And and you could accumulate a 
couple small positive RYOE plays

935
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,640
and then you get 1 breakaway 
run. 

936
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,440
You know, like Miles Sanders was
a huge, huge positive rush yards

937
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,680
over expected guy because the 1 
breakaway run right? 

938
00:57:55,680 --> 00:58:00,520
And so right, it's it's just a 
stat where like the farther, the

939
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,280
farther away from zero you get 
like the less signal there is 

940
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,760
there, the the signal becomes 
like is guy fast? 

941
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,280
And it's like that's not really 
what we care about. 

942
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,360
We care more about like is guy 
able to do more with the 

943
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,360
opportunity than the average 
player would? 

944
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,520
And so that's kind of where like
that stat disconnects from what 

945
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,520
we care about. 
So yeah, anyway. 

946
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,840
Here just digging into the 
numbers presenting a different 

947
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:30,880
way. 
So Trevion Henderson 3.6 yards 

948
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,800
per attempt so far this year. 
What do you think Ramondra 

949
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:39,920
Stevenson has? 
3.94.13.1 OK. 

950
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:45,800
Trevion Henderson obviously is 
very low in rush yards over 

951
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:53,800
expected percentage at 3830.8. 
Ramondra Stevens is only 36% so 

952
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:58,360
it's not like it's this great 
situation and Trayvon Henderson 

953
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:03,040
is just shitting his pants while
like reminder is like running 

954
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,240
laps around them. 
Like we're on like and I guess 

955
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,680
reminder Stevenson 51 rush 
attempts, Trayvon Henderson 41 

956
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:20,320
rush attempts. 
So I guess I like again, I don't

957
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,840
like it's very easy to Barry 
Henderson. 

958
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:28,080
I think the bigger probably the 
bigger issue right now is even 

959
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:32,360
with the injuries, even with 
Henderson get still I was having

960
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:45,080
touches that's versus 14 from 
Andre even with that stuff 

961
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,760
there. 
There's that there could be 

962
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,640
something there like I'm I'm not
I'm not paying. 

963
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,200
I'm not probably not playing at 
Trayvon Henderson and anything 

964
00:59:56,200 --> 01:00:00,760
next week either. 
But like there, there could be 

965
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:01,920
the beginning of something 
there. 

966
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,280
Yeah. 
All right. 

967
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:05,760
I think that's enough running 
back talk. 

968
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,640
Let's move on to tight end here 
this week. 

969
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,840
Kyle Pitts, king of the tight 
end charts. 

970
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,480
This feels like 2022 all over 
again. 

971
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,600
This the tight end chart is also
the rolling four week, just like

972
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:30,880
the running back charts. 
So I feel like there's a couple 

973
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:35,560
guys I'll start at the top. 
Trey McBride finally has a good 

974
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:40,600
game and what do you know it's 
it's with Kyler Murray out of 

975
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:46,480
the line up. 
Why is that so I, I, I mean, 

976
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,800
wishing Kyler Murray all the 
best. 

977
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:53,320
I really hope that he gets 
extremely into battlefield and 

978
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,440
and decides he needs a couple 
extra weeks to let that foot 

979
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,200
sprain heal. 
Cuz I'll, I'll tell you what 

980
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,440
man, I'll take Jacoby Brissett 
over Kyler Murray like straight 

981
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:07,400
up for the the productiveness of
Cardinals pass catchers Like I, 

982
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:12,560
I, I don't, I don't need Kyler 
Murray in there anymore. 

983
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:18,040
And again, Trey McBride is 357 
area yards this year. 

984
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:22,360
The next closest is 290 at 
Turner Henry, then 268 from 

985
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:27,040
Dallas Goddard. 
So I mean, you extrapolate that 

986
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:34,120
over a full season, his his 
peripherals are like he's still.

987
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,200
Very good. 
The the Trey McBride thesis 

988
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:37,680
could still play out, is what 
you're saying. 

989
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,960
He could gap, you know, He could
totally. 

990
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,520
Yeah, yeah. 
And and we were on the opposite 

991
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,400
page on that side last week. 
Yeah. 

992
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:50,560
But when I when I look at this 
some more, he really could still

993
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:55,120
gap these these other guys. 
It's not gonna be, it's not 

994
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,640
gonna happen in a way because 
we're just far enough into the 

995
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,200
the fantasy regular season that 
it, there's just not enough time

996
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,440
for that to separate. 
So it's not gonna happen in a 

997
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,240
way where you'd get these crazy 
Trey McBride advance rates. 

998
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,280
He could still be a plus advance
rate player just simply by 

999
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,400
virtue of where he went in 
drafts, right? 

1000
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,160
Like if you were taking training
pride over. 

1001
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,040
It could happen. 
You you could get some like 

1002
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,120
serious, like just nuclear 
McBride McBride weeks. 

1003
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:21,840
Yeah. 
It's just it's going to be. 

1004
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,360
It hasn't played out like that 
so far. 

1005
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,040
Yeah, it's going to be hard to. 
You need a couple nuclear ones 

1006
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,000
here and and there's only eight 
more weeks and he's got to buy 

1007
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,960
you know, so he's got 7 more 
games to do it. 

1008
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,560
You need probably at least three
like nuke nukes and then some 

1009
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,320
good games there. 
So it seems tough to get like 

1010
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:42,600
the Hey, he's just the advance 
rate monster, but it's very live

1011
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:46,880
that you get the play offs. 
Hey, it's fantasy play offs and 

1012
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,720
Trey McBride delivers 
untouchable spike weeks by the 

1013
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:54,760
other tight ends. 
You know, he Kyler, you know, 

1014
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:59,080
has has decided that, you know, 
he really wants to focus on his 

1015
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,560
Battlefield 6 and, you know, 
needs to let his foot continue 

1016
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,080
to heal. 
And Jacoby Brissett is still in 

1017
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,320
there and he's able to see Trey 
McBride in the end zone and Trey

1018
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:09,960
McBride becomes a touchdown 
machine. 

1019
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,960
And you're just getting a guy 
who's basically like a wide 

1020
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,560
receiver one, but he's playing 
in the tight end position. 

1021
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,200
You're getting 100 yards and a 
touchdown every week from. 

1022
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,720
Him so that's Harrison 
concussion stuff that that's 

1023
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,200
obviously wish him a Speedway 
recovery too, but that that's 

1024
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,080
that's been helpful. 
That was helpful for McBride as 

1025
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,160
well. 
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure. 

1026
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,160
So in the short term, like you, 
you know, you get that bump for 

1027
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:38,400
sure. 
But yeah, I, I think, and I 

1028
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,520
think, you know, Bowers, I I'm 
pretty sure we've talked about 

1029
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,560
this. 
I don't know how much we flesh 

1030
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,080
this out on the show, but we we 
talked about it, you know, 

1031
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,640
privately and you know, like up 
ranking stuff. 

1032
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,600
And we're I think we're both of 
the opinion that Bowers is going

1033
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:55,000
to miss through the buy. 
I think he's basically alive 

1034
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,080
for, you know, he he's not going
to be able to do the oh, 

1035
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:01,520
McBride, you know, he saves he 
saves his season and is a good 

1036
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,000
advance rate piece. 
Like I think that's curtains for

1037
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,480
Bauer just because of the higher
price and the fact that he 

1038
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,760
really didn't have a good game 
prior to getting in. 

1039
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,440
You know, he gets injured in the
first half of the first game. 

1040
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,800
So he doesn't have it was. 
Like a 20 point tight end 

1041
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:17,320
premium week. 
Yeah. 

1042
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,240
Yeah, 100 yards. 
But. 

1043
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:21,920
He it didn't clear the Bauer or 
anything like that. 

1044
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,680
Yeah. 
And so then you, you know, you 

1045
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:28,520
miss all these regular season 
games, but he's still alive to 

1046
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,440
be absolutely the guy that you 
need in the playoffs because the

1047
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:36,160
rest of the tight end position 
is kind of playing out the way 

1048
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:40,000
that we thought where, you know,
you get the big weeks from 

1049
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,840
Ferguson, but that's going to 
come back down to earth here 

1050
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,200
with CDI. 
Think he's a decent sell high 

1051
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:47,440
candidate. 
Another one. 

1052
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:52,320
Juan yeah, where it's these guys
can can pop for a week or two at

1053
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:56,520
a time, but there's no one out 
here that's sustaining really 

1054
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,200
high end tight end production 
week after week after week. 

1055
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,280
And and even the ones that have 
sustained better production like

1056
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,520
Dallas Gotter has had a hot 
stretch here. 

1057
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,200
Samuel Port has strung together 
a couple good games. 

1058
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,680
Yeah, even those guys are not 
looking like they're going to 

1059
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:16,160
deliver like this full season of
just smashing like it. 

1060
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,080
It's just these like little 
spurts here. 

1061
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,400
I'd say Tyler Warren's the 
closest one, but he's not 

1062
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,240
delivering monster weeks. 
He's just consistently 

1063
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,800
delivering good weeks, which is 
very, you know, for the price 

1064
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:31,840
you paid for him, it's a smash. 
But still, I, I don't think that

1065
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:37,720
anyone is, is going to be able 
to hold a candle to the actual 

1066
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,800
ceiling that McBride and Bowers 
have. 

1067
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,840
I I'd say Warren can contend 
with those guys ceiling, you 

1068
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,960
know, coming down the stretch of
the fantasy playoffs. 

1069
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:51,400
But those those three do to me 
at least, have the the highest 

1070
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:55,000
chance to just be like the 
absolute season defining plays 

1071
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,880
at the position, Which is funny 
because it really felt like it 

1072
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,560
was just going to be like 
whatever late tight ends ended 

1073
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,840
up, you know, stringing together
useful weeks. 

1074
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,640
But I, I think, I think that's 
possible. 

1075
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:08,400
All right, that was enough 
rambling. 

1076
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,080
Was there any other tight end 
that you wanted to talk about 

1077
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:15,240
here? 
So we should talk about Fanham 

1078
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,760
because we talk about him every 
week, but we'll, we'll keep it 

1079
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,080
brief. 
Where he had his highest, he had

1080
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,440
his highest rat rate of the 
season on 78%. 

1081
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:30,560
Combined that with a 22% targets
for a run on 6.6 A dot. 

1082
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:36,280
So that that that that meant he 
got 10 targets last week, which 

1083
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:41,280
was second or third behind 
McBride and got Goddard, who got

1084
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:47,720
11 each. 
And so again, wish and Joku the 

1085
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:53,120
best in his recovery. 
But I think I think Fannin 

1086
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:57,800
becomes a pretty, pretty good 
tight end start in Joku's 

1087
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:02,480
absence, especially with the the
the high drop back count that 

1088
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:07,280
the Browns give. 
Again, I think Dylan Gabriel is 

1089
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,760
OK. 
So I I think that's helpful for 

1090
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,400
Fannon. 
Yeah, definitely. 

1091
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,840
It's a, it's a wheels up spot 
for Harold Fannon. 

1092
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:20,000
One other guy that I think we 
should mention, Kate Auten, 

1093
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,480
we've talked about it before 
where we're like maybe with all 

1094
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:28,120
the injuries, he gets something.
I mean, surely now, you know, a 

1095
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,560
book is out, Godwin's Evans is 
out, we're throwing. 

1096
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:35,920
I mean, Baker is just throwing 
to remember that guys and 

1097
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:40,840
Sterling Shepherd and you know, 
Tyler Johnson and or no, not 

1098
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:45,240
even Tyler Johnson, Tess 
Johnson, Cameron Johnson, all 

1099
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,600
the Johnsons. 
Baker's just out there chucking 

1100
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:50,200
it to. 
As well, you can call that the 

1101
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,800
Bucks, the Johnson, the J&J 
Johnson and Johnson. 

1102
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:59,880
Yeah, but I think that I this is
gonna sound weird. 

1103
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,720
I bet you Kate Auten goes under 
the radar this week. 

1104
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,320
I know it sounds crazy. 
Like how how could he possibly 

1105
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,840
go under the radar? 
He just hasn't done anything 

1106
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,760
yet. 
And I feel like you've got 

1107
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:12,400
enough. 
Like we already had the 

1108
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,360
injuries. 
You know, people already played 

1109
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,000
out the like, oh, Kate Auten 
should get a bump here. 

1110
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:21,040
Thesis. 
You know, does he does he manage

1111
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,479
to fly under the radar 
inexplicably this week? 

1112
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,960
I I think he could really be 
like a true target earner in the

1113
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:33,800
Jake Ferguson, you know the 30% 
TPRR with 3.8 A dot like that 

1114
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,240
that seems on the table for K 
dot in here. 

1115
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:44,520
Yeah, so he's still running all 
the routes Week 6 with all the 

1116
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:50,000
injuries, he did have a 25% 
tiger spread run with like a 

1117
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:57,120
four 4 yard A dot. 
So definitely, definitely in 

1118
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:03,240
play, like definitely a pretty 
good at tight end option with 

1119
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,439
all those injuries. 
Last note I had on tight ends, 

1120
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:11,439
Darnell Washington led the 
Steelers in routes I believe 

1121
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:17,319
this week. 
No, he did. 61% and then at 26% 

1122
01:09:17,319 --> 01:09:19,600
targets per out run like that's 
nuts. 

1123
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:23,399
Yeah, truly disgusting stuff. 
He looks so funny running 

1124
01:09:23,399 --> 01:09:25,920
downfield too, because he's just
so large. 

1125
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,439
Like there are, there are 
linebackers like trying to run 

1126
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,880
with him and even the 
linebackers look really small 

1127
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:34,840
next to him. 
It's it's pretty comical stuff. 

1128
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:38,040
But the the whole point of 
bringing that up, other than the

1129
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:41,120
fact that it's really fun to 
watch Darnell Washington just 

1130
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:46,319
run in the open field, is that 
there is not a a viable Steelers

1131
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,800
fantasy tight end. 
You cannot play anyone. 

1132
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,760
It's a mix between Darnell 
Washington and Janu, and then 

1133
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:55,320
Friar Muth is a distant third. 
Pretty crazy too. 

1134
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:59,040
Also, I believe there was a 
fourth tight end Hayward. 

1135
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:00,320
Was it Hayward that caught the 
touch? 

1136
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:04,400
Yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, so just just sick, sick, 

1137
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,560
sick shit from Arthur Smith. 
Just making sure that you know 

1138
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,560
no tight end can be usable 
there. 

1139
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,760
The other one I want to call out
is Oranda Godson on the 

1140
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:19,240
Chargers. 
So he's up to he was up to 77% 

1141
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:23,000
route rate and he actually saw a
27% target sprout run. 

1142
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,760
So I don't think he's going on 
the radar. 

1143
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:32,160
We had eight targets, 47 area 
yards like that's that seems 

1144
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:35,040
like wheels up for him. 
It's weird that it happened so 

1145
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:39,320
quickly, but that I know they 
didn't. 

1146
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,480
Didn't Tyler Conklin make some 
massive mistakes for the 

1147
01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:44,680
Chargers or one of those other 
shit or tight ends? 

1148
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:48,280
They made a massive mistake, and
maybe they're just like, OK, 

1149
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,120
well, if we're gonna get 
mistakes, let's get some, let's 

1150
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,960
get some upside. 
Yeah, I, I think it's probably 

1151
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:58,880
more to do with QJ missing 
because they just needed some 

1152
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:03,400
other competent pass catcher. 
And I guess that probably means 

1153
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,560
that it's like, was he actually?
Outright or was he in line? 

1154
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,800
Is he good? 
That's a good question. 

1155
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,600
The other thing with Gadsden is 
this happened once already this 

1156
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:19,320
year where he got he got like 7 
targets in a game already and 

1157
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,920
then came back down to earth. 
So to me it's like you're seeing

1158
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:26,080
these flickers like there, 
there's something there but it's

1159
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,520
not, you know, it's not like a 
thing where you're going to, you

1160
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,560
can't hold them for redraft or 
anything like that. 

1161
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,920
You certainly can't start him. 
It's encouraging for like long 

1162
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,600
term. 
He'll he'll probably there's a 

1163
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:43,560
chance. 
They saw 28 inline snaps, 14 in 

1164
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,760
the slot. 
So they were playing them. 

1165
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:47,520
They're they're playing them as 
a real boy. 

1166
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,280
Yeah, tight end. 
Let me let me look up Conklin. 

1167
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:56,200
Conklin saw tree snaps. 
And who's the other guy for the 

1168
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:57,680
Chargers? 
Disley. 

1169
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:05,960
Disley Disley saw 24. 
Yeah, I saw a decent amount of 

1170
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:09,760
Disley out there. 
I know he got a target as well, 

1171
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,800
but yeah, I. 
He led the team in in line snaps

1172
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:19,120
which that seems interesting. 
Right, Yeah, he's, I mean, 

1173
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:23,960
Gadsden's really interesting. 
It's it's probably the the tough

1174
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:27,120
part about him is you're 
probably like confined to 

1175
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:30,160
showdown slate play and then 
like you're hoping that the 

1176
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:34,720
Chargers are healthy and good by
the time it's playoff basketball

1177
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,440
time and you're drafting some 
around against, you know, like 

1178
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,480
that's. 
You don't think he's like in 

1179
01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:44,600
like dog bowl stuff where like 
people have to draft like 

1180
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,800
there's going to be 12 tight 
ends drafted. 

1181
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,040
You don't think he's like a 
punt? 

1182
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:55,360
Where do you play even? 
Not, I mean like, not this week,

1183
01:12:55,440 --> 01:13:01,600
you know, I don't know. 
I'd probably just maybe we need 

1184
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,440
to, maybe we need to get that 
snap rate twice in a row. 

1185
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:09,200
Yeah, that's, that's more what 
I, cuz I feel like even in a 

1186
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:12,760
spot where you're the last guy 
to draft a tight end and you're 

1187
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:17,080
looking at Gadzin versus like, 
like a guy like AJ Barner is 

1188
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,800
gonna be there, you know, and 
I'll just take AJ Barner who's 

1189
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,800
getting more even though he's in
a timeshare, you know, like he's

1190
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:28,200
getting more snaps or like I 
would, I'd take a like who else 

1191
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:35,480
would be there as an undrafted 
like AI Guess you'd probably 

1192
01:13:35,480 --> 01:13:37,880
take him over Mason. 
I'd take Michael Meyer over him 

1193
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:39,360
though. 
Michael Meyer like got a. 

1194
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:43,840
For sure. 
So it's, it's just hard for me 

1195
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:45,640
right now. 
But yeah, you, you give me this 

1196
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:47,040
back-to-back weeks, then for 
sure. 

1197
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,240
He's on the menu. 
It's just it's one where it's 

1198
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:53,880
like the reward for playing it 
before I see it feels relatively

1199
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:56,480
minor to me. 
I don't know, maybe I'm thinking

1200
01:13:56,480 --> 01:13:59,520
too narrowly about it, maybe his
maybe he's got more ceiling that

1201
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:04,000
I'm giving him credit for there.
So I could, I could just be 

1202
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:05,480
wrong there as I think more 
about it. 

1203
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,960
Yeah. 
So he had so 41 drop backs in 

1204
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:14,400
week 5, that was 25 S and he had
25 routes. 

1205
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:21,160
So what's that like a 70% rate 
rate 25 by 41 stock chasing in 

1206
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:34,200
it 25 / 41 60% and then it what 
22 routes? 

1207
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,640
So you're, you're definitely 
saying a very noticeable like 

1208
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:39,800
uptrend. 
Yeah, where? 

1209
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:41,440
Like, maybe you're right. 
Maybe he's just you. 

1210
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:43,560
You can play it before you see 
it. 

1211
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,680
I mean, like, I'm not going out 
of my way to take him over. 

1212
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,240
Well, you, I don't think I, I 
think you've seen it where you 

1213
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:52,880
got 8 targets, 7 receptions and 
68 yards. 

1214
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:57,120
He didn't get a touchdown, but 
you've seen like a pretty steady

1215
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:01,160
increase in routes. 
He's he's gotten the usage last 

1216
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:07,480
week and I think you've seen it.
Yeah, I guess I my, my concern 

1217
01:15:07,480 --> 01:15:12,120
is that it was like their hand 
was because there's no QJ, you 

1218
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:16,240
know, like they that's not plan 
A Plan A is like, we'd rather 

1219
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:20,280
build the plane around QJ and 
then have Keenan and Ladd be our

1220
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,200
complimentary pastor. 
Yeah, maybe. 

1221
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:29,240
Maybe they prioritize them in 
terms of like targets, but like 

1222
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:32,600
the IT seems like they're 
they're prioritizing and Gadson 

1223
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:34,440
that's that's their fight in any
anyway. 

1224
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:36,320
We probably. 
Yeah, I'm, I'm coming, I'm 

1225
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:37,920
coming around. 
You're getting me to come around

1226
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:42,800
on Gadson, probably. 
He's probably a better salary 

1227
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:47,200
cap DFS play than than Dog Bowl.
Yeah, that makes sense. 

1228
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:51,520
If he's like, I haven't looked 
at his price, but all right, 

1229
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,560
let's move on to wide receiver 
charts. 

1230
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:00,080
Yep no needs up but backup tight
ends. 

1231
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:09,280
So I mean to start off JSN is 
just him him. 

1232
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,240
I don't have anything else add 
other than that. 

1233
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:19,960
Or, well, I think a lot of JSN 
success is due to the fact that 

1234
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,840
he just keeps ever. 
It's so weird man, but every 

1235
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,440
week they keep rolling out 
backup running backs to play 

1236
01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:29,280
corner against him. 
It's so strange that that keeps 

1237
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:34,240
happening, but. 
Every team has a designated like

1238
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:42,880
Rudy like player where like they
only play to guard JSN whenever 

1239
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,240
they play. 
It's just some literal practice 

1240
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:46,880
squad guy. 
They don't even have the name on

1241
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:51,320
the back of his jersey. 
They just put him out there in 

1242
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,560
some unmarked jersey to guard 
JSN. 

1243
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:57,280
No, yeah, JSN is awesome. 
It's been super fun watching him

1244
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:01,840
crush. 
But a guy who's also been 

1245
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:07,320
crushing as of late, who has 
more competition coming down the

1246
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:11,800
pipe than than JSN, George 
Pickens, you know, comes off a 

1247
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,880
huge, huge game here. 
He has a quieter game against 

1248
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:19,200
The Jets where, you know, we've 
seen that pattern with The Jets 

1249
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,040
now. 
That's two weeks in a row where 

1250
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:25,080
The Jets have Sauce Gardner 
really take away the number one 

1251
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:29,680
receiver and then teams just 
say, OK, we will do other things

1252
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,720
than that. 
I mean, the Broncos did not do 

1253
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:33,280
anything other than that 
successfully. 

1254
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:38,920
But the Cowboys just throw to, 
you know, total bums like Ryan 

1255
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:42,440
Flanoy and and get there with, 
you know, 100 plus yard games 

1256
01:17:42,440 --> 01:17:45,320
against them. 
Meanwhile, George Pickens now 

1257
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:50,440
not against The Jets, just goes 
absolutely nuclear, puts up a 

1258
01:17:50,440 --> 01:17:54,880
huge stat line, also wins in 
like all the different ways. 

1259
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,320
It was pretty fun watching it 
because it was like he ran the 

1260
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,400
gamut of all the stuff that 
we've seen George Pickens do. 

1261
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:03,760
It's not like none of none of 
this was new. 

1262
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,960
Like, Oh my God, we didn't know 
George Pickens could do this. 

1263
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,880
We've seen him take the slants 
to the house back when he was in

1264
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,040
Pittsburgh. 
Like they didn't do a ton of it 

1265
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:12,440
there. 
But like we've seen that a 

1266
01:18:12,440 --> 01:18:14,360
couple times for him. 
It's like, oh, they should do 

1267
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:16,800
that more. 
Cowboys move George Pickens 

1268
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:21,680
around more this week and used 
him more closely to like how 

1269
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:27,560
they deploy CD typically, you 
know, but he also he wins the 

1270
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:30,080
deep ball. 
He he does the run after the 

1271
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,000
catch stuff makes a really good 
move in the middle of the field 

1272
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,640
to like turn a a what would be a
you know, shorter catch in a 

1273
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:40,080
like a 40 yard game. 
He just he looked really good. 

1274
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:45,120
Looks like a complete what could
totally be an alpha receiver on 

1275
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:50,440
a team that had less wide 
receiver talent competing but 

1276
01:18:50,440 --> 01:18:53,880
CD's coming back. 
And so I wonder what you think 

1277
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:57,960
of Pickens here. 
Are we are we likely to see him 

1278
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,360
come back down to earth when CD 
gets back? 

1279
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:01,880
Or how do you see this playing 
out? 

1280
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:07,720
So give me one second. 
But the one, the one thing that 

1281
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:12,160
I think is is the relevance that
here I think is how many times 

1282
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:15,360
are RAM? 
Is that Prescott like dropping 

1283
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,760
back a game? 
Yeah. 

1284
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,720
Let me, I want to go to passing 
for him. 

1285
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:28,280
And so he is dropping back. 
What is it, 30 * a game? 

1286
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:33,480
Yeah, sorry, sorry everybody. 
As I, as I look up this, this 

1287
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:39,480
elementary stack, he's dropping 
back 40 * a game. 

1288
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:46,200
And I would say that he's let me
see, he's turning those into 

1289
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:48,200
most of those into past 
attempts. 

1290
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:52,640
So probably drop something like 
38 passes a game. 

1291
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:59,880
And the for some reason that the
Cowboys offensive line is is 

1292
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:04,400
balling out. 
So all about to say is that even

1293
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:09,200
though he be, he downgrades from
the number one to the number 2 

1294
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,960
like I, I, I think that's, 
that's funny. 

1295
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:16,200
Awesome. 
When when you are in a passing 

1296
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,600
attack that has this much 
volume. 

1297
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,600
Yeah, I I agree. 
I think it's you can make the 

1298
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,840
comparison to, you know, the 
Bengals passing game when Joe 

1299
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,880
Burrow is there obviously and 
you have the DeMar Chase, T 

1300
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:34,120
Higgins, George Pickens is like 
a a more complete T Higgins to 

1301
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:37,440
me, where Higgins does the like 
contestant catch stuff that 

1302
01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:39,680
Pickens does. 
But I, you know, I would say 

1303
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:41,080
Pickens does that a little 
better. 

1304
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:45,520
And Pickens can do some of the 
other stuff too that you would 

1305
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:49,240
want your number 1A receiver to 
be able to do. 

1306
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:53,600
He he's just I, I think he's one
of the best receivers in the 

1307
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:55,960
league. 
So you get both of them. 

1308
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:59,040
And I think just having this 
time where it's like, hey, we 

1309
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:03,000
have to build the plane out of 
Pickens for a little bit, only 

1310
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:06,360
can benefit him going forward 
once they get CD back because 

1311
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:10,400
now they've seen he's able to 
answer the call when they have 

1312
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:14,080
to go to him, Like they can feel
a lot more confident that he's 

1313
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:15,400
going to be able to answer the 
call. 

1314
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:19,840
So definitely think he still 
hangs on like Pickens. 

1315
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:25,280
For Pickens 2 is that even when 
CD was playing, it wasn't like 

1316
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:30,640
Pickens was just he's only 
lining up as the X. 

1317
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,160
He never moves around. 
He's always on the right side of

1318
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:34,960
the formation. 
That's where he's out. 

1319
01:21:35,440 --> 01:21:40,640
They've been moving him around. 
So even when picking alarm comes

1320
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:46,560
back, he'll still get a handful 
of slot snaps and he'll still be

1321
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,800
switching sides. 
So like I don't think we're just

1322
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:53,520
going to get him in like an X, 
take the top off the defense 

1323
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:57,080
type role when that when Lamb is
back, obviously Lamb is going to

1324
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:01,360
get the line share of the 
targets, but going to be plenty 

1325
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:03,240
there for Pickens. 
Yeah. 

1326
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:06,440
Like, for example, a thing that 
I wouldn't be doing right now is

1327
01:22:06,440 --> 01:22:09,480
I'm not trying to sell George 
Pickens high just for the sake 

1328
01:22:09,480 --> 01:22:12,360
of selling him in a league where
you can trade him, right? 

1329
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,600
I mean, if I'm selling, yeah. 
I mean when when Lambs come 

1330
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:20,440
back, you probably still play 
Pickens in in in DFS and stuff 

1331
01:22:20,440 --> 01:22:21,520
like that. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1332
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,800
And if I'm going to sell him 
high, it better be high. 

1333
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,160
Like I'm not just trying to sell
him to sell him, you know, 

1334
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:33,360
another receiver that I wanted 
to talk about and Drake London 

1335
01:22:33,440 --> 01:22:37,000
finally gets right, you know, 
big positive regression 

1336
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,400
candidate and that he had the 
wave targets for route run. 

1337
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:41,160
Just hadn't had the big fantasy 
game yet. 

1338
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:47,320
Has a really, really big game. 
He's close to another touchdown 

1339
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:48,840
too. 
You could have been even bigger 

1340
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:52,520
game. 
But he, you know, finally makes 

1341
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:54,760
good on all the volume that he's
getting. 

1342
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:59,800
Do you think? 
I mean, I would assume that it 

1343
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:04,320
it probably because before he 
really just was not producing a 

1344
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:06,240
ton and then he has this big 
blow up game. 

1345
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:08,640
I'd like to think that it's 
probably a little bit more 

1346
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,840
steady going forward where it's 
not going to be just this like 

1347
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:15,520
famine of fantasy points. 
And then all of a sudden he has 

1348
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,720
the explosion explosive game. 
The profile doesn't really seem 

1349
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:20,320
like that. 
It's not like he wasn't earning 

1350
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:22,160
targets before. 
He was getting the targets. 

1351
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:24,400
It just wasn't nothing was 
happening. 

1352
01:23:24,440 --> 01:23:28,840
So I, I think you probably get a
little bit more steady output 

1353
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,800
from Drake London going forward 
now that we've seen proof of 

1354
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:34,040
life that, hey, he actually can 
do it. 

1355
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:35,720
Michael Pennix can connect with 
him. 

1356
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:42,400
But yeah, big, big game to get 
right there and move his dot up 

1357
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,720
into a more appropriate part of 
the quadrant given his way to 

1358
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:51,240
targets per route run. 
Yeah, the other guy whose dot is

1359
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:55,240
on a, a lengthy migration, I 
mean, it, it, it was bad. 

1360
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,400
I mean, he's still in the, he's 
in the wind sprinter quadrant 

1361
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:01,560
still, but he's migrating up and
to the right. 

1362
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:05,560
And that's Lad Mcconkey. 
This is 1 where I'm, I'm pretty,

1363
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:11,920
I could see it going either way.
Where QJ gets back and Lad is is

1364
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:16,840
back to not being, you know, the
primary target again, which is 

1365
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:19,880
totally different than we had it
coming into the season. 

1366
01:24:20,480 --> 01:24:24,320
But sure seems like the Chargers
really like having the plane be 

1367
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,760
built out of QJ and have LAD and
Keenan kind of be these 

1368
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:30,440
secondary guys. 
Or at the very least, you know, 

1369
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,920
it's just even split between all
of them. 

1370
01:24:34,440 --> 01:24:39,760
But I, I wonder if like this QJ 
missing time and then, you know,

1371
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,960
making a lad of focal point kind
of reminds them like, Oh yeah, 

1372
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:44,680
this lad Mcconkey guy's really 
good. 

1373
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,600
Maybe we should should get him 
the ball a little bit more. 

1374
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:50,520
So I I wonder how do you how do 
you think this plays out for 

1375
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:53,920
Ladd? 
Does he continue to approach 

1376
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:58,560
more of what he was last year or
is he kind of just doomed to be,

1377
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:02,560
you know, this one, one part of 
a three-way, you know, more or 

1378
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:04,720
less even split in this charged 
offense? 

1379
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:08,200
So it's kind of a good news, bad
news. 

1380
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:16,160
I guess the bad news is that so 
he had eight targets, his his 

1381
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:19,600
per game average was 6.6. 
So I guess that that's, that's a

1382
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,240
little bit of an increase, but 
it's like not a terrible 

1383
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:26,280
increase. 
I think the big difference that 

1384
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:32,160
came in this game is that on 
similar usage, Mcconkey just 

1385
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:36,560
played really well and said so 
had a yeah, had a great game. 

1386
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:41,280
I, I don't think he got, he 
didn't get targeted that much 

1387
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,360
more. 
His air yards weren't that much 

1388
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:48,600
more. 
And, and I, I kind of like, I 

1389
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:53,400
kind of throw out the like the 
last two games where Herbert 

1390
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,040
just running for his life like 
nobody's getting there. 

1391
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,880
And, and, and, and I think this 
compares pretty favorably to 

1392
01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:03,040
those first tree game or it's 
pretty similar to those first 

1393
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:07,920
tree games. 
And in terms of when QJ comes 

1394
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:12,160
back, I, I still think you're 
going to get like 6 to 8 targets

1395
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:14,160
a game for Mcconkey. 
That's where he was. 

1396
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,840
That's probably a little bit, 
still a little bit disappointing

1397
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:24,160
where you need to play really, 
really well on those 6-8 targets

1398
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:31,320
that have the big game. 
Does him playing this well ice 

1399
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:36,800
out QJ? 
That's probably up to QJ, isn't 

1400
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:39,120
it? 
Where like we've probably had a 

1401
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:44,200
really good start to the season 
for QJ, but we know deep down in

1402
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:48,200
our heart of hearts that he's 
probably not like one of the 

1403
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:51,200
best players in the NFL. 
Like I think he's good, but not 

1404
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:53,320
not one of the best players in 
the NFL, which is what he's 

1405
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:58,320
looked like. 
And so maybe as QJ's play comes 

1406
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:02,920
down back down to earth and 
Mcconkey's play comes up to the 

1407
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:05,000
level, we know that that can 
happen. 

1408
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:12,720
But it's, I guess there's, 
there's signs of life, there's 

1409
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:15,680
signs of life is what I'd say. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

1410
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:18,840
I think that's a pretty 
reasonable way to look at it. 

1411
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,720
Basically, it wouldn't surprise 
me to see Ladd and QJ kind of 

1412
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,840
converge on this chart to where 
they get similar weighted 

1413
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,360
targets for route run. 
You actually probably, I mean, 

1414
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,840
QJ is going to be the favorite 
to have a higher weighted 

1415
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:32,600
targets for route run just 
because he's getting the stuff 

1416
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:35,920
deeper down the field. 
So Ladd would would have to earn

1417
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:40,360
just more raw volume to kind of 
get closer to him there. 

1418
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:46,040
But it wouldn't surprise me to 
see them both get closer to, you

1419
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,160
know, each other where they're 
at on the chart right now. 

1420
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:53,880
Keenan had good targets, you 
know, the previous week, but I 

1421
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:58,320
believe he was believe he was 
lower this week. 

1422
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:01,680
I don't have it pulled up. 
Yeah, I'll pull it up real 

1423
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:07,080
quick. 
OK, So Keenan Allen, so in the 

1424
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:11,040
first five weeks, he averaged 
8.6 targets a game. 

1425
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:17,440
He had nine in, in week 5, he 
had seven in weeks 6. 

1426
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,920
He did only get the the 27 
yards. 

1427
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:25,920
And what's weird is he actually 
had a 10A dot. 

1428
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:31,840
And so like that's a, he had 70 
area yards, only converted out 

1429
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:34,360
to 27. 
So it must have been a lot of 

1430
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:37,080
incompletions there. 
And so that's why he didn't get 

1431
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:40,600
on the stock sheet. 
I mean, I guess on this per 

1432
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:42,400
route stuff, they're still 
involving him. 

1433
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:48,840
Like he was a 24% target sprout 
run that is on a 74% route rate 

1434
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,320
that to me that's just kind of 
like that. 

1435
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:58,040
That's that's as you wear for 
for Keenan Allen where he's a 

1436
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:02,280
key part of the offense like, 
but not not the focal point. 

1437
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,280
And you are going to have that 
you're going to have pretty good

1438
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,840
weeks. 
But then, yeah, it doesn't 

1439
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:09,880
surprise me that you're going to
have some down weeks like this 

1440
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:14,520
as well. 
Yeah, his his receiving grade 

1441
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:18,000
has trended down in the last 
couple weeks as well. 

1442
01:29:18,440 --> 01:29:21,520
Started a little higher, but 
last week was his worst PFF 

1443
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:26,320
receiving grade. 
But yeah, similar, similar 

1444
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:29,320
Staffs. 
He he he turned 70 area yards 

1445
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:32,800
and it's 27 actual yards. 
If so, make it does not surprise

1446
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:35,280
me they don't think he played 
well. 

1447
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:41,320
But yeah, I I wouldn't be 
surprised to see him get back 

1448
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,880
closer to the beginning of the 
season. 

1449
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,160
You know, the targets are still 
pretty similar. 

1450
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:49,680
So I think it's just going to be
split where it's probably. 

1451
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:51,680
Cute. 
When you score some touchdown, 

1452
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:53,560
he's going to have a pretty nice
week. 

1453
01:29:55,480 --> 01:30:00,040
Most other weeks it's going to 
be fine, not not amazing. 

1454
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:03,200
And then you'll have some weeks 
like last week where you know, 

1455
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:06,680
it just didn't connect. 
So he's not, he's not looking 

1456
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:09,080
great. 
Yeah, Yeah, I think, I think 

1457
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:13,520
it's going to emerge as QJ and 
Ladd are kind of like the 1A and

1458
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:18,920
1B and Keenan is the, you know, 
2A in the offense where they're 

1459
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:23,560
all pretty darn close to, you 
know, interchangeable, but. 

1460
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:29,560
But it is fair as as like an 
older player that his his his 

1461
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:33,560
role kind of like his ability 
and role kind of declines like 

1462
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:35,600
that. 
That's a reasonable expectation 

1463
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:39,960
over like what is it a four 
month season like that that 

1464
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:42,480
happens, but we're not seeing it
right now I don't think. 

1465
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:46,880
Yeah, OK. 
I think we can move on to the 

1466
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:53,280
next chart here and Yep. 
Sounds good. 

1467
01:30:59,310 --> 01:31:03,830
RIP puka. 
RIP Yeah comes back. 

1468
01:31:05,440 --> 01:31:07,600
Yeah, I really hope he doesn't 
miss too much time. 

1469
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:12,400
He's just been such a fun player
since he entered the league. 

1470
01:31:12,440 --> 01:31:16,640
You know the football is less 
exciting to watch without puka, 

1471
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:22,280
so hope he is back soon. 
You had a good note. 

1472
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:26,280
All about them. 
What's his name? 

1473
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:29,480
Yeah. 
And then the Chargers stock 

1474
01:31:29,480 --> 01:31:32,080
receiver. 
Why not Chargers cults? 

1475
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,360
Yeah, but is is Downs not on 
this chart? 

1476
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:40,200
Is Downs on the next chart? 
Yeah. 

1477
01:31:40,440 --> 01:31:42,640
Yeah, he is. 
Yeah. 

1478
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:44,000
Let's just talk about Downs. 
I didn't. 

1479
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:45,760
There wasn't a time on that 
last. 

1480
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:50,880
Show So Josh Downs What's funny 
is over the last three weeks, 

1481
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:55,760
Josh Downs leads the Colts in in
targets with 19. 

1482
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:59,520
But I I what? 
What was my note that he he only

1483
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:07,320
converted that into 190. 
Yards, yeah. 120 yards, so 19 

1484
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:11,240
targets last three weeks. 
You actually get a 70% route 

1485
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:17,880
right And that's as the MO Ali 
Cox, the tight end to playing a 

1486
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:20,160
lot less. 
So I mean that that's 

1487
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:22,960
encouraging that they decided 
that the team is better when 

1488
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:28,640
Josh stands plays over rare 
journeyman tight end MO Ali Cox,

1489
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:34,440
especially on the passing downs.
It's only a 6.4 A dot. 

1490
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:42,560
So I think there's some pretty 
encouraging signs there. 

1491
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:47,880
But it's it's also a little bit 
discouraging that there that 

1492
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:51,840
he's kind of being shoehorned 
into this low A dot slot route 

1493
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:57,280
roll, I guess in the context of 
the overall Colts offense. 

1494
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:00,840
And that's been good for them. 
They've liked that. 

1495
01:33:01,480 --> 01:33:05,120
And then obviously you had the 
you had the nice usable week in 

1496
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:08,400
week 6 where he caught the 
touchdown. 

1497
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:11,760
He caught them. 
He got some targets and got some

1498
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:18,400
yards here. 
I guess we I in the first couple

1499
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:21,520
of weeks, I Josh Downs is kind 
of dead and buried. 

1500
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:27,280
He's probably he's probably this
is probably a good, good kind of

1501
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:32,800
floor for him where 70% route 
rate he's getting decently 

1502
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:37,560
targeted what their low A dot 
and so he's probably putting up 

1503
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:41,840
like what 88 points a game 
unless he scores a touchdown and

1504
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:46,600
then it'll be in double digits. 
Yeah, so I'm pulling up. 

1505
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:52,040
I'm looking at all the Colts 
receivers and it's pretty clear 

1506
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:54,520
or all the Colts main pass 
catchers, including Tyler 

1507
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:56,200
Warren. 
It's pretty clear. 

1508
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:59,680
The delineation of how they're 
using them, where they all have 

1509
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:03,520
pretty similar A dots, actually.
They all operate relatively 

1510
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:07,480
short and downs has been more of
a focal point in these last 

1511
01:34:07,480 --> 01:34:09,960
couple weeks where Pittman has 
been the one that's seen his 

1512
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:13,920
targets decline. 
Tyler Warren basically is like, 

1513
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:16,640
yeah, I'm just going to get mine
every game. 

1514
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:20,480
Like the Tyler Warren targets 
are are just here to stay. 

1515
01:34:20,480 --> 01:34:24,800
You know, his lowest number of 
targets so far this season was 4

1516
01:34:25,480 --> 01:34:28,640
and that was last week where I 
believe he gets a couple like 

1517
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:30,960
goal line rush attempts and 
stuff like like they're 

1518
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:32,840
involving him. 
You know, it's not like only 

1519
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:35,160
four targets is like No 4 
targets since the high value 

1520
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:38,200
touches. 
So Tyler Warren is basically 

1521
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:40,760
like the planes built out of 
Tyler Warren. 

1522
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:45,160
And then they decide between 
Pitman and downs which guy is is

1523
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:46,880
going to be more useful in that 
spot. 

1524
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:51,560
But they all have pretty similar
A dots Warren A dot so far on 

1525
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:58,800
the season 6.4, Downs A dot so 
far on the season 7.5 and then 

1526
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:03,480
Pitman's A dot so far on the 
season is 9.3. 

1527
01:35:03,480 --> 01:35:07,840
So Pitman's operating a little 
deeper when you look at their 

1528
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:12,000
receiving depth chart on PFF, 
Pitman is actually the one 

1529
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:15,960
that's getting the like over the
middle type stuff, the like 10 

1530
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:18,640
to 20 yards, the the 
intermediate like splash zone 

1531
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:20,760
targets. 
So those are actually going to 

1532
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:23,680
be a little bit more valuable 
for fantasy if he can do 

1533
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:27,120
anything with with those after 
the catch where all of down 

1534
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:30,760
stuff is underneath. 
Downs in total has like what is 

1535
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:34,680
it 2, 46? 
Downs has 6 targets greater than

1536
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:37,080
10 yards down the field. 
You know, it's all coming 

1537
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:40,680
underneath. 
The vast majority of it is just 

1538
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:44,520
short, shallow crosser stuff to 
Downs are like quick slants, 

1539
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:47,000
those types of things. 
He has some stuff outside the 

1540
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:51,600
numbers, but not not a ton. 
So yeah, I think it's probably 

1541
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:52,760
just going to be matchup 
dependent. 

1542
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:56,200
I think Steiken is a really good
head coach and understands how 

1543
01:35:56,200 --> 01:36:00,240
to deploy his players. 
I think they know that Downs is 

1544
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:07,000
probably their best like real 
receiver, but you know, Pittman 

1545
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:10,080
is still useful for them and 
they use him in a different way.

1546
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,920
Pittman is just basically deep 
middle downs. 

1547
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:16,960
And then but there's really not 
a lot of vertical stuff between 

1548
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:21,000
those guys that's that's pretty 
much pigeon holed to like the 

1549
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:23,920
Alec Pierce and AD Mitchells of 
the team. 

1550
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:31,200
So they have their like very 
defined roles, you know, no one.

1551
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:35,160
So they're. 
I think I'm not getting a lot of

1552
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:38,960
intermediate from Daniel Jones, 
which I guess good on them. 

1553
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:43,160
Yeah, yeah, no, it's yeah there.
There really isn't a lot of 

1554
01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:44,560
intermediate passing in this 
offense. 

1555
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:47,800
It's mostly short with like a 
smattering of intermediate and 

1556
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:52,160
and not much deep. 
I think like as far as how 

1557
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:57,320
actionable this is for fantasy, 
all of these got the receivers. 

1558
01:36:57,320 --> 01:37:00,720
Downs of Pittman are just like 
you're, hey, I have a bye week 

1559
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:03,280
and I need to play someone. 
But these are these are players 

1560
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:05,000
that are going to get targets 
every week. 

1561
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:09,280
You know, they they have like 
they have a floor Warren you're 

1562
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:12,120
ecstatic about because the 
position the bar is so much 

1563
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:15,240
lower and he's he's just such a 
clear focal point of the 

1564
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:18,120
offense. 
Like he is he's the 1A of all 

1565
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:20,960
the receivers and then Downs and
Pittman are kind of trading off 

1566
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:26,760
there for the secondary role. 
As far as best ball goes, I 

1567
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:28,920
think you're pretty happy with 
all three of them. 

1568
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:31,920
You're very happy with Warren 
and you're pretty happy with 

1569
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:36,440
Downs in Hitman cost. 
So I think if you if. 

1570
01:37:36,440 --> 01:37:40,560
You're saying you're doing 
discount That is not playing 

1571
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:44,200
out. 
Yep, and Anthony Richardson is 

1572
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:50,920
on IR with an orbital bone 
fracture, so let's see. 

1573
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:54,000
Any other guys we needed to 
cover? 

1574
01:37:55,480 --> 01:38:00,720
So the one thing that is kind of
crazy here is so Tez Johnson had

1575
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:10,000
a an 84% route rate in week 6. 
He had a hit a 2.1 yards per out

1576
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:20,080
run, 14% A dot or no targets per
out run, 14% A dot on a 26A dot.

1577
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:25,640
So like he, he's now the deep 
ball guy for Baker Mayfield. 

1578
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:30,040
It, it, it appears, it appears 
so that that seems pretty 

1579
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:34,640
interesting. 
It's maybe he maybe he's just a 

1580
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:38,520
prayer yards guy, but still 
interesting. 

1581
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:47,920
Sterling Shepherd. 
He is 80% rent rate AT14A dot or

1582
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:54,560
80% rate rate, 15% target rate 
run 14A dot probably just still 

1583
01:38:54,560 --> 01:39:00,760
just Sarah and Shepard, Cameron 
Johnson, he had a 48% right 

1584
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:08,320
rate, but heavily targeted. 
And I think I think that there's

1585
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:13,040
probably some value in these in 
these kind of discount Tampa Bay

1586
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:15,840
receivers. 
We'll probably we'll probably 

1587
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:21,160
end up playing in him one of 
these guys in in the main event 

1588
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:23,160
as injuries pile up on some 
rosters. 

1589
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:28,080
Is there anyone, any any of them
other than K dot and that 

1590
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:30,680
interests you? 
Yeah, I think that's a really 

1591
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:34,000
good call, I think. 
I think the play is Sterling 

1592
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:37,240
Shepard. 
He and Baker have AI believe 

1593
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:38,880
they played together in college,
correct? 

1594
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:45,560
That I do not know. 
And Baker played for OU, right? 

1595
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:48,240
Yeah, let's see. 
Oklahoma. 

1596
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:50,560
Oh yeah, they did. 
Yep, Yeah, they did. 

1597
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:54,280
So yeah, I think and we've seen,
you know, we've seen a 

1598
01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:56,800
connection between them in the 
NFL too. 

1599
01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:02,320
I think that you just get a good
amount of heaping healthy 

1600
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:07,240
helping of Sterling Shepherd. 
He's been competent too with 

1601
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:10,600
with the Bucks. 
I'll pull up the Sterling 

1602
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:12,840
Shepherd stuff because I do 
think this is a good. 

1603
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:20,560
Good little bit of alpha. 
Let's see so his his receiving 

1604
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:25,520
stuff for this last week. 
Yeah, not not a ton of routes He

1605
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:27,560
is running most of them outside 
too. 

1606
01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:31,920
He's operating in the slot a 
good amount, you know 50% slot 

1607
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:34,000
rate, but he it's not like he's 
slot only. 

1608
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:41,000
I mean, it is a pretty high slot
rate, but yeah, still didn't get

1609
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:43,640
a ton of targets this last week 
even with all the injuries. 

1610
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:47,600
But I mean, he's been pretty 
consistent with targets so far 

1611
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:51,120
this season, you know, averaging
just a little under 5A game. 

1612
01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:56,040
I'd expect that to go up. 
He's not. 

1613
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,520
He's not going to be the deep 
downfield guy though. 

1614
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:02,080
His A dot is 10. 
As Johnson is the deep down the 

1615
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:06,400
field guy, all the receivers 
have good A dots just because 

1616
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:09,960
Biggert chucks it. 
Yeah, as I, when I look at his, 

1617
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:14,000
yeah, I'm looking at the 
receiving depths chart and 

1618
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:18,000
everyone, it's all splash zone 
Baby Baker, Just yeah. 

1619
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:23,240
Sarah and Shepard 13.7. 
Tess Johnson 26.3 Mecca Buca 

1620
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:27,560
11.5 Cameron Johnson 11.3. 
K dot in four. 

1621
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:30,640
Rashad White. 
K dot in four. 

1622
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:34,560
Tree. 
Yeah, Baker is so fun, dude. 

1623
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:39,520
I yeah, I, I think, I think you 
just load yourself up with with 

1624
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:42,640
bucks receivers and you pray min
min price Bucks receivers and 

1625
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:47,240
pray. 
Yeah, it seems seems pretty fun.

1626
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:52,880
It is fun that all these like 
random guys. 

1627
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:56,760
What's the game where people 
play where you you have to guess

1628
01:41:56,800 --> 01:42:00,880
what features they have and they
pull down Guess who, Guess who. 

1629
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:03,800
Yeah, it's definitely a guess 
who receiver run. 

1630
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:07,840
Oh man, I was going to say like 
on the main slate, this would be

1631
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:10,520
fun because it's it's probably 
going to be a bunch of men price

1632
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:13,080
guys and you just you get them 
all low owned and you can do a 

1633
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:16,200
bunch of Baker stuff against the
Lions, but it's actually the 

1634
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:18,640
Monday night game against the 
Lions. 

1635
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:21,160
And there's two Monday night 
games, so it's probably like a 

1636
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:23,920
three gamer. 
Yeah, it's a 2 gamer for 

1637
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:26,000
Showdown though. 
That's going to be really fun. 

1638
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:29,320
You get all the all this 
ambiguity with Bucks receivers 

1639
01:42:30,480 --> 01:42:32,040
should be a really interesting 
one. 

1640
01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:35,440
And of course, for the 2 gamer, 
it's probably even it's even 

1641
01:42:35,440 --> 01:42:38,760
better for the 2 gamer because 
for Showdown, I would assume 

1642
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:41,480
they're priced up enough to 
where it's not. 

1643
01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:44,520
You know, there's no free 
squares or anything, right? 

1644
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:47,840
Yeah, should should be a fun 
one. 

1645
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:51,080
That's that's definitely a game 
to watch. 

1646
01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:53,120
Bucks Lions should be a really 
good one. 

1647
01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:55,080
Honestly two of the better teams
in the league right now. 

1648
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:58,840
I wish we were getting the Bucks
at full strength, but it'll be a

1649
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:01,760
testament to Baker. 
Right, yeah. 

1650
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:04,800
The Lions that they, I don't 
think they're, they're, they're 

1651
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:09,520
defensive backfield. 
No, the the Lions defense will 

1652
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:14,800
certainly be cooperative with 
allowing the Bucks to to try and

1653
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:17,760
get there with their second 
stringers at receiver as well. 

1654
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:22,600
I'm honestly, I'm pretty 
fascinated by Tess Johnson where

1655
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:28,600
he's getting the routes now and 
I get 7 targets in the last two 

1656
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:30,160
games. 
So like not the most amount of 

1657
01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:36,040
targets, but I don't know. 
He seems pretty fun where he he 

1658
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:41,200
was awesome for for Oregon with 
with Dylan Gabriel as his 

1659
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:45,880
quarterback. 
He's he's small, short and slow,

1660
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:48,120
which is not a great couple of 
people. 

1661
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:57,200
OK, so, so for Tez Johnson, if 
I'm you know, for this, for this

1662
01:43:57,200 --> 01:44:01,120
showdown slate that's coming up,
where does he fall on the Luther

1663
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:04,120
Burden scale of how hard I need 
to adjust the projection? 

1664
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:07,440
Because for Luther burden last 
night I literally doubled his 

1665
01:44:07,440 --> 01:44:09,960
projection. 
I went in, I saw what the 

1666
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:12,600
projection was. 
I just two X that sucker and 

1667
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:14,280
said there's enough fragility 
here. 

1668
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:15,280
Yeah. 
You're not. 

1669
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:16,440
I don't think you're doing that.
You. 

1670
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:18,240
Don't want me to. 
You don't want me to double the 

1671
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:22,400
Tez Johnson projection. 
I think his. 

1672
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:26,000
His reasonable projection is 
like 6 or 7 points. 

1673
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:28,520
OK. 
He'll probably project. 

1674
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:31,040
I I think he should project for 
seven. 

1675
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:32,840
They'll probably put him in his 
five. 

1676
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:34,600
Yeah. 
OK. 

1677
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:39,000
So that that's what I think. 
For the record, Luther Burden 

1678
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:41,320
cleared his his double 
projection. 

1679
01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:46,360
So ball knowers, we we won no 
money off of that by the way, 

1680
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:51,760
because of Chris Moore, the 
Chris Moore touchdown Pitt that 

1681
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,360
Luther burden. 
So he was not not valuable. 

1682
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:57,560
Min Min Price. 
Winner sloppies, they got there.

1683
01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:00,280
I mean, I I slammed Chris Moore 
too. 

1684
01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:03,800
It just doesn't really matter 
when the 200 when the min price 

1685
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:08,560
$200 wide receiver comes in at 
20% owned in the the large field

1686
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:12,440
Lotto, you know he's pretty 
chalky, so. 

1687
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:18,320
Yeah. 
All right, I think that's that's

1688
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:20,920
all the receivers we had to 
cover today. 

1689
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:22,800
Anything else before we sign off
Draco? 

1690
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:28,240
Do we need to talk about Wordy? 
I don't think so. 

1691
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:30,560
I don't think we've got anything
new to say on Wordy. 

1692
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:33,200
No. 
I think we're good. 

1693
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:36,000
I think we're good. 
All right. 

1694
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:38,880
Well, I will. 
I'll look forward to seeing you 

1695
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:43,800
all here again next week after 
we are officially halfway 

1696
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:46,000
through the fantasy regular 
season. 

1697
01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:49,400
Good luck this week and until 
next time. 

1698
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:51,240
Yeah. 
Good luck everyone. 

1699
01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:52,040
Thanks for joining.