1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,840 Hi there, I'm Mike Show in Buffalo, where it is sunny and 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,280 71 week and a date to the NFL draft. 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,480 Round one from Pittsburgh. Risers and fallers and rookies 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,400 as always, especially this time of year. 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,480 We'll talk about the Eagles and whether they are going to trade 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:17,280 A.J. Brown. 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,840 Dantavian Wicks moves in. We've got more than just that, 8 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:25,520 of course, and you know, after getting or helping to get Diana 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,760 Rossini to resign, we'll see what else our heroes have up 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,720 their sleeves collectively tonight. 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,080 No Pat Terrain, but we have Davis Maddock, Jacob Sanderson 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,680 and Sam Sherman along for ADP chasing on this April 14th, 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,960 2026. ADP chasing is for when you 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,000 watch ship chasing. You go, these guys are just 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,080 football guys. I have my 4% exposure blanket. 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:50,840 Actually. Back in if it's Austinette. 17 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,680 It's here to our crystal ball. close your eyes. 18 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,840 You know all your entries are going to lose anyway. 19 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,080 Yeah. That's. 20 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,080 Fair. You're not going to told me all 21 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,840 this way I was here. It's anti cabal, it's anti the 22 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,720 best ball thought leader. I'm obviously lying to some 23 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,360 degree because like, I have a lot of both of these guys. 24 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,920 It's the most disgusting thing you can make, but man. 25 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,040 Welcome guys. Let me start with Sam, who I'm 26 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,240 just meeting tonight. Of course, I've followed and 27 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,400 known about Sam for a long time and watched this show so 28 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,160 carefully and often that I ended up being coming a part of it. 29 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,000 Let's with that said, address the elephant in the room right 30 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,560 off. Sam, will you talk hockey with 31 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:38,280 us? I can't bring the hockey 32 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,520 knowledge, unfortunately. I did go to A. 33 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,440 Perfect replacement for Pat, yeah. 34 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,000 Dude, you're you're you. You live in the northeast and 35 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,240 you got no hockey. Embarrassing bro. 36 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,520 Yeah, it is. It is a bit disappointing. 37 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,760 I I'm a fan, like I love playoff hockey. 38 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,680 Can I name more than five players in the Bruins? 39 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,280 That's gonna that's gonna be a stretch for me. 40 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,640 So I'll try my best though. We shouldn't need you to do too 41 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,440 much, but exciting for the playoffs here in Western New 42 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,960 York, that's for sure. More more importantly, where do 43 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,560 you stand on Alexander the Great All? 44 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:13,680 Right. Alexander the Great 45 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:19,240 misunderstood guy had kind of an early early breakout age I 46 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,840 believe. Very early breakout. 47 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:21,480 Age. Yeah, yeah. 48 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,400 Not tall either. Not tall, yeah. 49 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,640 Not tall. Yeah, good BMI. 50 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,840 It's true we are. We are replacing a ABBM winner 51 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,000 with a BBM winner although. Yes. 52 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,400 Yeah. If you'd. 53 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:37,320 Like. Yeah. 54 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,640 Yeah, yeah, it's a while. Yeah. 55 00:02:39,640 --> 00:02:43,800 I wanted to, you know, do do a bit of housekeeping here. 56 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,800 It's been a while since I've been on. 57 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,080 So first of all, address the elephant in the room. 58 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,160 I'm sure a lot of you guys are wondering when I'm back on 59 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,440 tonight, you know, expecting me to make an announcement about 60 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,640 offseason content plans. Unfortunately, that's not going 61 00:02:57,640 --> 00:03:00,440 to happen. The real reason I'm back, they 62 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,480 actually discovered a legal clause deep in the ADP chasing 63 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:09,840 bylaws that you do need at least one $2,000,000 winner per ADP 64 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,160 chasing show. So I was brought back on for 65 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,800 that. I was actually surprised. 66 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,200 Davis, you, you didn't qualify for that. 67 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,080 I haven't really been paying attention to best of long a 68 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,880 little bit, but no. But we're close. 69 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,120 We're close. We're, you know, just like how 70 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,080 Jordan Spieth has been close to winning a major for the last 10 71 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,480 years. My game, we're feeling it. 72 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:30,560 We're feel we're seeing the ball. 73 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,320 Well, you know, the ball flight's good. 74 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,280 We're feeling it. Well, anyways, I, you know, I 75 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,960 was happy to have you guys invite me back on regardless of 76 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,560 the circumstance. I was actually a bit surprised 77 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,160 you were still doing this show. I thought, you know, much like 78 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,440 the spoil cast after Evan Silva had probably petered, petered 79 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:52,600 out without me. But I was, I was humbled to 80 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:58,520 learn that you guys replaced me not with 1, not 2, but three 81 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,240 people. I I guess you figured you can 82 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,760 recreate me in the aggregate Moneyball style. 83 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:08,240 So obviously got Zach Lennars taking my role of making charts 84 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,440 that no one will ever talk about or look at. 85 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:17,480 You got Mike Show Mike Shope taking the role of hosting and 86 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,680 getting interrupted by Davis or Pat every time he tries to speak 87 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:25,840 longer than 10 seconds. Mike, my advice for you is just 88 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,680 speak in fragments of sentences, 3-4 words. 89 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,360 That's about the Max are going to be able to get out. 90 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:31,880 Don't don't try anything too fancy. 91 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,800 And finally you got you got Jacob Sanderson. 92 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,800 You know, he was brought in to play the role of furiously 93 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:43,560 arguing with Pat Crane, hurling personal insults over a player 94 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:49,440 they disagree with by one spot in their ranking, so I do 95 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,080 appreciate that. They they did do a good job. 96 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,840 Everyone kind of slots in nicely and handles one one part. 97 00:04:55,840 --> 00:04:58,080 I mean, T Higgins is still very prominently. 98 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,760 Involved already. Tonight, audigraphic. 99 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,840 Anyways, I did speaking. Speaking of Jacob, I did want to 100 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:10,640 say I'm I'm really happy to see a member of my tree, you know, a 101 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,560 branch off my fantasy football lineage really succeeding 102 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,240 without me in the fantasy football space. 103 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:22,560 Obviously, he he followed in my footsteps on ADP chasing, you 104 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,480 know, he followed me, took my role in the wave wire show an 105 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,040 underdog. But I did did hear some breaking 106 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,560 news. Actually, you know, Congrats to 107 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,720 Jacob for finding a role that's not just following in my 108 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,720 footsteps with the news that Diana Rossini was retiring from 109 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,480 the Senior insider athletic. We broke that news. 110 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,040 We broke that. Do you have breaking news that 111 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,840 yeah, Jacob is actually going to be the one to play singer senior 112 00:05:46,840 --> 00:05:49,000 NFL insider. So Congrats to Jacob for that. 113 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,720 And this is this is where my sourcing gets a little rough. 114 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,640 I, I, I did believe, I heard that Jacob himself, you know, 115 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,520 following in Diana's footsteps, volunteered to sleep with Liam 116 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,760 Cohen to prove that Travis Hunter is not the only one 117 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,600 capable of playing both sides this season. 118 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,880 I don't. Know just. 119 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,720 Just a rumor that I heard. Yeah, that was that. 120 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,640 Sex joke. Folks, I would have see, I would 121 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,040 have gone. I would the other way. 122 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,400 We volunteer Jacob for tribute to just really get the Bishal 123 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,640 Tooten information early. That's what we need. 124 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,000 We need the Bishal Tooten scoop from the horse's mouth. 125 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,320 That is more important for ADP chasing to be honest. 126 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,080 The Chris Rodriguez wars anyways, couple couple more 127 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,560 updates and then I'll I'll hand it back up to show Pierre, you 128 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:36,040 know, Speaking of new jobs in the fantasy space, I was excited 129 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,080 to hear about this. So you think you can tout 130 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,760 competition that Peter overs at is launching. 131 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,920 I just think it's really important, you know, to give 132 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,480 marginalized voices a say in today's society. 133 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,280 White guys with opinions on fantasy football they don't 134 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:52,080 have. Platforms. 135 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,760 There's there's no way they can go out and get their opinions 136 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,080 heard. They won't just share with that 137 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,680 openly to you at A at a bar. So thanks to Pete for for doing 138 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:02,520 all the work there. Pete. 139 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,360 Pete's contest is a YouTube comment section with the face. 140 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:06,360 That's what that's what we found. 141 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,040 Finally. Yeah, and finally I have to get 142 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,160 to Davis, obviously. And you know what was a huge 143 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,680 blow to State Farm Insurance? Davis Maddock did find himself a 144 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,720 new position at Flock Fantasy. I'm really happy for Davis. 145 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,080 I think though, I'm honestly like even happier for a younger 146 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,680 generation of fantasy football enthusiasts to get to experience 147 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,520 the Davis Matic legacy. The lore. 148 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,160 They don't, they don't know. What's about to happen? 149 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:39,760 To them, they don't know what's about to hit him. 150 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,560 You know, even some of his experiences, his life 151 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,440 experiences in college, I think they they might get exposed to, 152 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,960 so I did. These kids don't even know who 153 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,000 Cordero Patterson is. Yeah, yeah. 154 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,840 And you know, I, I, I did tune into a stream where Davis was 155 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,080 talking about it and he said, and hold on, give me a second 156 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,200 look, I'm sorry, Cordray Patterson might be the RB 67, 157 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,160 but he's going to sleep with your college girlfriend and 158 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:07,960 there's nothing you or I can do about it. 159 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,800 So anyways. Full bits. 160 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,200 I'll hand it back to show up here. 161 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,080 I know I've got a ton of news to talk about this week. 162 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,760 We've got Dantavian Wicks getting traded. 163 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,160 We've got that's it, that's it. And Wicks join joining the 164 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,200 Eagles, We got him leaving the Packers, we got we got all sorts 165 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,000 of stuff. So show show it back to you. 166 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,280 Sam able to keep his focus with Boston jumping to a four nothing 167 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,240 lead in the first period against New Jersey with the chance to 168 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,679 play the Sabres on the line. They want it, so do I Wicks to 169 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,640 Philadelphia. Are we all assuming an A.J. 170 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:46,840 Brown trade? I have been. 171 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,080 Are you drafting accordingly? Here's the great picture, by the 172 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,720 way. I mean they they have to be 173 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,200 planning on trading him because why else would you? 174 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,240 Why else would you do this? Move the the wide receiver 4. 175 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,320 Can you guys even name the wide receiver 4 for the Eagles the 176 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,960 most recent two years? Literally, who would it have 177 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,640 been? His name is the name Cooper 178 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,440 Johnny Wilson. So so quiz what has been the 179 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,680 wide receiver 3 two years ago? Quiz Watkins was not even on the 180 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:20,760 team last year. Johnny Wilson. 181 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,680 The point is, no one knows. No, but I do know. 182 00:09:24,680 --> 00:09:27,840 I just told you the name Darius. Well, that I don't know. 183 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,840 There you go. D Name Cooper. 184 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,160 The point is is no one knows cuz that guy is completely anonymous 185 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,560 and they don't really play a second tight end either like. 186 00:09:36,560 --> 00:09:38,880 Davis How many wide receiver fours are we supposed to know, I 187 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,240 mean. I was going to say, we all know 188 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,400 Travis. We know Travis Hunter. 189 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,680 We know Travis Hunter first. Off Mike, I bet you know way 190 00:09:48,680 --> 00:09:51,760 more wide receiver fours. OK, random team wide receiver 4 191 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,040 Los Angeles Chargers go last year. 192 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:59,640 Well, that's an easy one, Sam. We're letting Mike play. 193 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:00,640 Sorry. So I. 194 00:10:00,680 --> 00:10:02,120 Don't know, I'm not ready with an answer. 195 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:09,280 I mean, OK, Tampa, well, depending on your depending, 196 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,840 it's either him or Trey Harris, one of the way Tampa Bay 197 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,000 Buccaneers. Everyone knows that well. 198 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,680 Because he was on my fucking BBM team. 199 00:10:18,680 --> 00:10:21,480 I would say it was IGBUCA in week 17 was really how I felt 200 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,480 during the finals. I would say McMillan felt a lot 201 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,400 like the wide receiver one. Point being, we all we all know 202 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,920 a lot of them. I this is this is my honest to 203 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,560 goodness, no biased like really trying to be level headed take 204 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,920 Wix is like a really good stylistic fit for Jalen Hertz 205 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,680 because he doesn't run routes really. 206 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,560 He he just, he's like really good at winning jump balls, 207 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:46,960 which Jalen Hertz loves to throw his. 208 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,040 No, he's not. He's he has no hands. 209 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:51,240 That's like the whole thing he can't catch. 210 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:53,760 OK, but if he could catch, you could imagine. 211 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,320 But did you just say Wix is a good stylistic fit because he's 212 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,280 good at winning jump balls? Was this Davis is over here? 213 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,640 He's big. He's big and strong and fast. 214 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,880 He's going to go get open down the field and he you can throw 215 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,480 him a jump ball. He just obviously is not 216 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,120 guaranteed to to fetch it. I did. 217 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,800 I had this moment earlier in the day that I realized that if A.J. 218 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,880 Brown does in fact get traded and they don't draft like Ted 219 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,480 Hurst or whatever in round two, there's gonna be a brief shining 220 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,680 moment of time where Xavier Worthy is wide receiver 50, 221 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,880 Matthew Golden is wide receiver 51, and Dontavian Wix is wide 222 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,800 receiver 52 in ADP and I'm just gonna be frozen. 223 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,320 With paramet, it's gonna be the widest your Jaccard tree has 224 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,680 ever gone. 33% of each in the same round. 225 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,280 All right, I do think that the the craziest thing to this, like 226 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,920 not really about Wix, but the fact that Devonta Smith's ADP is 227 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,440 just stuck there in round 4 despite everyone basically 228 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,120 knowing that A.J. Brown is going to get traded is 229 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,320 insane. Like he it's just going to be 230 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,400 the most predictable thing ever, where we always think something 231 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,240 that's guaranteed to happen is baked in. 232 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,400 And then AJ Brown's going to get traded and Devana Smith is just 233 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,760 going to immediately go up to pick 27 and we're going to be 234 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,160 like, how was that not baked in? But yeah, he could just be a 235 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,560 crazy good collect, you know, even if you. 236 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:17,360 Think that's what is 1 like I was trying to think of like what 237 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,520 his ceiling is if A.J. Brown does get traded. 238 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,200 I think what you said, 27's, I mean that's like where Chris 239 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:23,480 Alave is going. He. 240 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,640 Probably has been the one I've been thinking of. 241 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,560 Like, I think they're very similar players, and if Smith 242 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:32,000 was the unquestioned wide receiver one, I think he goes 243 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,720 right by Alave. What happens to A.J. 244 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:34,920 Brown? Does he go ahead of A.J. 245 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,040 Brown? He's right there, too. 246 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,720 Yeah, I think he's a scenario where like Brown. 247 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,280 Assuming he goes to the Patriots, I think he goes late 248 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,160 too. Moves up. 249 00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:46,160 Pickens, I thought Brown goes higher. 250 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,840 Yeah. Like you would take A.J. 251 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,760 Brown and the Patriots ahead of Nico Collins, right? 252 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,120 Yes, I would for sure. I think I'd go Collins, but I 253 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,480 think that's like exactly where he is probably. 254 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,760 Sam Sam is a Nico slappy though because he he got on him big pre 255 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,560 breakout and he's unable to memory wipe being in on Nico pre 256 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:08,000 breakout. We all have these guys. 257 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,280 I don't blame you. I mean, I love Nico. 258 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,040 I I think that, I mean, he's not going to go ahead of London. 259 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:15,760 So I think that would be like the cap. 260 00:13:16,560 --> 00:13:19,720 I can't envision Brown the. Issue is is this is this is 261 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,280 fucked up but I will end up with so little A.J. 262 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,680 Brown if that happens because then you'll be forced to choose 263 00:13:24,680 --> 00:13:27,240 between him or Roshi Rice and I I just. 264 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,200 Want Yeah, I would take A.J. Brown everything. 265 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,080 Yeah, obviously you would take A.J. 266 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:32,360 Brown. I bet you would. 267 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,480 Well, obviously you you would take. 268 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:37,800 You would take. I'm going to fade. 269 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,440 I'm about to fade Rashi Rice so hard because the Chiefs are 270 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,040 taking my favorite guy at 9 like they're going to take Tyson at 9 271 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,600 and I'm about to have to be like the most anti Rashi. 272 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,680 Oh no, didn't you see Daniel Jeremiah mock? 273 00:13:48,680 --> 00:13:50,240 Dude, they're just going to take, they're going to take 274 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,840 Jeremiah Love at nine. Well, that's that's a word that 275 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,200 I can't say on the Internet anymore. 276 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,640 That's literally, that's literally the worst mock of all 277 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,400 time. That is, that is Daniel 278 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:00,720 Jeremiah. That's a mockery. 279 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,120 Draft it's it's him logging online and saying I think Brett 280 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,080 Beach is fucking stupid. This is how dumb I. 281 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,000 Think Brett Beach is actually. I mean, they drafted Xavier 282 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,480 Worthy in the first round, so you'd probably get more value 283 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,360 out of Jeremiah Love that wide receiver. 284 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,960 Andy Reid, Andy Reid said. Give him a break, Andy Reid 285 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:21,960 said. I'm not mad at him. 286 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,240 We asked him to do a lot with a torn labrum. 287 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,240 He's going to be a lot better this year. 288 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,840 And I, I believe Andy Reid. Andy Reid's never lied to me 289 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:33,960 before. Bringing the conversation back 290 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,840 to, to, to Wix, I was a little surprised at like the ADP or 291 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,400 sorry, the the leg up rank of just 197. 292 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,480 I mean, obviously there's still some uncertainty The Eagles 293 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,480 could draft someone A.J. Brown probably is what like 10 294 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,080 percent, 20% to return to them. So some of that is is maybe 295 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:56,880 baked in, but. Call she has him 70% to be gone 296 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,600 for whatever that OK. That seems like that they're 297 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,840 they're selling dollars for $0.70 now. 298 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,720 Yeah. Yeah, I do feel like Wix at 299 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,320 least like he he's had a weird career to me where like, yeah, 300 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,960 he profiles as someone that could be a full time player now. 301 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,040 I think a lot of it has just been Green Bay's wide receiver 302 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,120 room has been so loaded that he hasn't really had a chance to do 303 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,760 that. But he doesn't have like and 304 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,000 compared to these other like part time players, he doesn't 305 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,520 have any physical limitations. He's not like a pop gun slot 306 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,680 wide receiver. He's not like unable to play on 307 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,720 the outside like he does profile someone who could be a 85%. 308 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,040 Yeah, he's like an outside manner or he's not a slot guy. 309 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,640 Yeah, exactly. So I, I, I would guess that like 310 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,600 he he would. Play more snaps than Devonta 311 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,400 Smith. No, he wouldn't. 312 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,800 No, but who? Who's? 313 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,680 Out there in the heavy stuff. Well, currently Smith. 314 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,800 Yeah. Anyways, I mean the the 197 rank 315 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,320 feels low to me. I don't know Jacob or Davis if 316 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,600 you guys have done rankings and have them higher. 317 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,560 Than that I I have rankings and I have them in the one 50s and 318 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,080 I'm probably low. That's that's high for me. 319 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,040 I'm closer to Pat I I just, I'm optimistic. 320 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,000 But if they do the A.J. Brown trade, I think there's, I 321 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,200 mean there's yeah, there's a small chance that they don't do 322 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,560 the trade. That's really small. 323 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,040 I think there's a reasonable chance that they get a wide 324 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,560 receiver back in the trade, and then there's also, I think a 325 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:21,440 really high chance that they just take a wide receiver at 23. 326 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,720 Knowing I will Shane, I will Shane Gillis gun meme if 327 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,720 Keyshawn booty steals Don Davey and Wicks's chain. 328 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,200 There's no, I think it's more that I think it's more that they 329 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,440 they only really play 2 wide receivers. 330 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,120 Like the third wide receiver is so rotational for them that if 331 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,120 it's, and if they take like Boston or Tyson or Cooper, 332 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,520 whoever in round one, you're strongly favoring that guy, I 333 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,280 think over Wix. And I, I mean, I definitely 334 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,520 would bet on Wix ahead of Hollywood Brown, but I wouldn't 335 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:54,320 say it's like 1000% guarantee. So I think you're there's like a 336 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,880 chance that he's wide receiver 3 on the Eagles, which is pretty 337 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,800 dead. But and then wide receiver 2 on 338 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,760 the Eagles, he's still probably behind Goddard. 339 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,280 He's he's way behind Smith. If if they went and didn't, if 340 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,400 they trade agent Brown and they don't take a wide receiver in 341 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,680 round one and they don't add anyone else's note, then I'm 342 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:14,119 pretty on board with like, I don't know, the one tens one 343 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,720 20s. So I guess probably if you rank 344 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,480 them in the one 50s, it's not a bad edge. 345 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,200 Jacob Yeah, that's what I was thinking. 346 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,800 Not to make this all too easy for you, but what is Hertz 347 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,760 Future? What have you thought about? 348 00:17:25,079 --> 00:17:27,480 I know what you think of him. What have you thought about how 349 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:32,960 that has sounded? I mean, I think that he's a 350 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,880 limited player who knows how to win. 351 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:35,880 I'm feeling nice today. How? 352 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:40,080 About you Oh, that is the that is the kindest thing that has 353 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:41,960 ever been said about Jalen Hurts on on the. 354 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,760 Program. Well, like Sam's on the show, so 355 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,000 I can't really be like the sarcastic hater. 356 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,480 Like there's only so. Much room for that corner. 357 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,720 So I I have to be a kinder. Yeah, it's like when it's like 358 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,600 when Simon Cowell left American Idol and then Randy tried to be 359 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,200 the mean judge for a couple seasons. 360 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:01,280 Like I I don't, I can't choose Simon's on the program at the 361 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,840 same time. So I have to be nicer to to 362 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,440 Jalen Hurts and is like playing 100 passing yards per year. 363 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,600 How close to 100% is it that Hertz gets the whole season? 364 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,720 Oh very very close. Like I don't think there's no 365 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,920 risk of him getting benched for performance this year. 366 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:21,000 The the risk would be like none they trade him or move on in a 367 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,680 future year. But I'm not worried about him. 368 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:23,760 This. I've been clicking a ton of 369 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,720 hurts in basketball. Like as much as I don't like him 370 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,760 as a quarterback, it helps that I have like 37% Devonta Smith 371 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,280 currently. Yeah, Joan. 372 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,800 Joan Hurts will. Jalen Hurts will have a job, the 373 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,080 Eagles will win the division and time will continue. 374 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,640 And in the offseason, The Athletic will do another 375 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,600 character assassination on a man who has literally never set a 376 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,240 foot wrong in his entire life, who's only ever done what his 377 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,160 coaches and team have asked of him. 378 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,040 Well that's not true. I mean he he like completely 379 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,600 strong arms his team into running a hitch based offense 380 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,360 that sucks every year. All right, well, let's see what? 381 00:18:59,360 --> 00:19:00,880 Happens as a. Real quarterback, they could 382 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,240 like run a crossing route and that would. 383 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,840 Be and they just make the playoffs every year. 384 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,440 And they win constantly. They do hold the NF LS longest 385 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,760 active streak of division titles with two. 386 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:11,800 No, you got to get rid of that guy. 387 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,400 Let me tell you. That's the quarterback you got 388 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,080 to ship out. You got to put the franchise on 389 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,360 Tanner Mckee's shoulders. That's what I've always said. 390 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,440 Well, that's not quite what I would recommend either to be 391 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:26,000 honest. Well, Wix is a riser for obvious 392 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:32,080 reasons, as we can see in the next slide going forward, who 393 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,280 are we talking about? Here. 394 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,240 Oh, I'm trying to figure it out. I'm actually not sure. 395 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,440 Is this is this is it? Is it Marvin Harrison Junior? 396 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,080 Correct. Yeah, let's go, Marvin. 397 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,360 Harrison Junior, ADP65. You know what? 398 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:49,200 I actually. I know my sandbait Davis. 399 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,280 This is like bullish on Marvin Harrison junior. 400 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,640 I feel like this this gonna make you. 401 00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:57,560 Yeah, that is I I am not I'm not a Marvin Harrison junior bull. 402 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,920 You get you get frame mugged by Michael Wilson junior that hard 403 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,280 and I'm I'm afraid there's very little recourse for you. 404 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:09,280 I God damn it I I had a really funny stat and it's just barely 405 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:13,320 not true that Duntavian Wicks had a higher spike week than. 406 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,960 T Higgins last year, but he he just barely got eclipsed. 407 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,920 Wix's two touchdown or T Higgins that. 408 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,120 Thanksgiving game? Oh yeah. 409 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:29,080 So T Higgins's two touchdown game came with 121 yards. 410 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,960 Wix's two touchdown game came with 94 yards. 411 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,400 So we got outscored by three points on their on their biggest 412 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:36,280 spike week. Yeah. 413 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:41,160 Bad, bad beat, bad beat. For me, this to me this is way 414 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,200 more interesting I think, don't you think? 415 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,520 I think so. This one I think. 416 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:51,120 So looking into this like I think the Jaden Reed. 417 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:55,000 And Williams, Can we get him? On a leak, Maliki, there's got 418 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,000 to be on there somewhere. But I think it's interesting. 419 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,560 I think both Reed and Watson have a decent bit of upside, you 420 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,480 know, baked in to their ADP right now, especially Reed at 421 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,760 One O 4. He's like what a career 2.1 422 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,000 yards per route run guy. I think Watson's right in that 423 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,920 range as well. Neither of them have seen like 424 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,200 huge target volume on a per route basis. 425 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,760 But now with some of these guys clearing out of the picture 426 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,120 craft potentially banged up coming back next year, like I 427 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,720 just cause no Green Bay wide receiver has been like truly an 428 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,120 elite option and fancy over the last three or four years. 429 00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:33,200 I don't think it. I mean Watson. 430 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,200 Has been. Watson has been. 431 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,520 I think in fits and starts he's been like water super. 432 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,720 He's been elite for like 3 weeks at a time. 433 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,160 He's never been. Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. 434 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,240 But yeah, I think, I mean Watson I think was extremely impressive 435 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,720 last year coming back from an ACL tear like late the season 436 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,200 before. He he like. 437 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,200 Challenged my entire philosophy on how NFL players can heal and 438 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:56,880 recover impact in fantasy football. 439 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:01,280 Like he, he like from a guy who had to have his hamstring 440 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,360 studied at like a special university for muscular 441 00:22:04,360 --> 00:22:06,720 imbalance to the season that he put on. 442 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:13,560 I, I, I, I completely had to, to rethink like I'm drafting Naji 443 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,080 Harris and Daniel Jones and these guys and just like, well, 444 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,960 these, these guys are just made of titanium, you know, like it 445 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,080 just doesn't matter. Yeah, except for Brandon Iuke. 446 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,320 I I love shocking. Shocking. 447 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,840 Obviously no one. I love Jayden Reed. 448 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,680 It cost. I I think that we have the 449 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,560 possibility of them finally just having an actual three wide 450 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,280 receiver set and stopping with like the wide receiver 451 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,160 communism, right? Like, if this is actually just 452 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,200 their three and it's Watson plays every down and Gold plays 453 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,560 probably the majority of the two wide receiver sets and Reed 454 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,560 plays constantly in the slot because there's not really like 455 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,720 I joked about Savion Williams, but I don't think he's like a 456 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,200 serious threat. But I definitely think, you 457 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,240 know, it's the Packers. So they will probably draft 458 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,160 someone like in Round 2. Yeah. 459 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,800 That's that's a chip. In for like, you know, 2530% of 460 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,880 the routes, but I think that's more of a golden thing. 461 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,320 Like I think Watson's pretty locked into his role. 462 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,880 I think Reid is pretty locked into his role, but his role is 463 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,040 is potentially capped at being a slot just cause they've never 464 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,760 played him really in two wide receiver sets. 465 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,680 And then golden is the one where I think you can dream on. 466 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,640 He's the every single down Z, and then it's just a matter of 467 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,320 if he's any good. You know, if you're Davis and 468 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,840 you think he's good, then he has a lot of upside at 1:19. 469 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,840 Let me tell you buddy, I am scooping the dip. 470 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,480 Arena, Yeah. If you're if you're me and you 471 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,360 think he's complete garbage, then like I'm looking at it, 472 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:37,360 it's like, oh, like Golden's going to be such a failure. 473 00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:39,080 They're going to have to play Jayden Reid and two wide 474 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,120 receiver stats. I've got a I've. 475 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:43,720 Got a good Jayden Reid. I've got a good Jayden Reid. 476 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,400 Matthew Golden stat So Jaden Reed has been in the National 477 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,800 Football League for three seasons on the Green Bay 478 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,160 Packers. His career high and number of 479 00:23:52,160 --> 00:24:00,280 snaps played in a game 77%. Matthew Golden got to 70% of the 480 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,760 offensive snaps for the Green Bay Packers in his 123, his 481 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,120 fifth National Football League game. 482 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,400 What were the stats that game? Do you have a lot of catches and 483 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,120 yards that game or? Hey, little man, he had he had 484 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,000 he had three for 86. He had three for 86. 485 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,520 And I I do just want to make. This probably a season high in 486 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,040 yardage actually wind. No, his season high in yardage 487 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,960 came in a playoff game, by the way, with the touchdown. 488 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,160 Do you have? Fancy on that? 489 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,000 I did want to say on, on, on Matthew Golden. 490 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,920 I think I'm probably like somewhere in the middle of Jacob 491 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,440 and Davis here. Like you look at his overall 492 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:41,000 season long stats last year. 1.5 yards per outrun, 16% targets 493 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,240 per outrun. Like that's not that bad of a 494 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,880 season for a first round rookie like. 495 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,680 I just did a quick no it's not. I did a. 496 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,080 Quick, if you cut out the game that he played 100% of the snaps 497 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,280 with Clayton tune he he jumps up like another factor better. 498 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,680 Yeah, but I guess even if you don't do that, like those are 499 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,400 just, I don't know, there's plenty of first or second round 500 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,960 NFL picks who have had that statistical profile as a rookie 501 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,360 and have gone on to have success in the league. 502 00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:13,120 Like I just did a screen of guys that were in that yards for out 503 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:16,760 run range, 1.3 to 1.7 in that targets for out run range. 504 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,000 So 14 to 18%. Golden was smack in the middle 505 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,360 of those ranges. And it's really like a full 506 00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:26,200 spectrum of guys who had great careers, guys who had bad 507 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,920 careers. Megabus some big hits like just 508 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,360 to read you some names going from sort of best to worst 509 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,600 Pickens JSN, then guys like Courtland Sutton, Pittman, 510 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,160 Jordan Addison, Brandon cooks were all in that range. 511 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,240 Devante Parker had some OK years in that range. 512 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,000 And then there there's some big busts in there. 513 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,080 Johan Dotson, Dorial green Beckham, Jalen Rager, Kian 514 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,160 Coleman, Xavier worthy not not looking good. 515 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,840 Ricky Pearsall's also in there a bit TBD. 516 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,080 So it it's just like to me, like I just feel like we didn't find 517 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,960 out that much last year. I do feel like the drop in ADP 518 00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:04,000 of like 60 spots is like or whatever it is, 50 spots from 519 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,400 last year is like a bit of an overreaction with the depth 520 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,120 chart now cleared out. So I actually kind of in on 521 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:13,240 Golden this year. I can't say I'm like super 522 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,600 enthusiastic about it, but. He's the one for me. 523 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,760 I've taken him. But he's not though. 524 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,600 Dobbs is like big and like wins on like dig routes and Golden's. 525 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,600 I think you're kind of hoping he can be like Brandon. 526 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:25,840 Not gonna play on the outside. That's. 527 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,760 Kind of what you're hoping. For OK, that's fine though. 528 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,480 He's good though. Like I, I don't think Jayden, I 529 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,000 think Golden's route ceiling is way higher than Jayden Reid. 530 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,240 That's fine. I just, I know Jayden Reid can 531 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,400 earn volume and be efficient on the routes that he gets because 532 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,200 we've seen it every year of his NFL career. 533 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,240 I'm, I'm very unconvinced of that with Golden and like Sam's 534 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,720 list is, is very interesting and I think he has a legitimate 535 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,120 ceiling. I, I just, if you compare his 536 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:51,880 prospect profile to the prospect profiles of everyone on Sam's 537 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:56,720 list, like most of the hits from that list, JSN, Pickens, 538 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,120 Addison, like those were really good prospects and Golden was a 539 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,360 horrendous prospect and most of the bad prospects on that list 540 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,560 didn't go anywhere after their first year. 541 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,880 So I, I just think it's like, I don't know, I felt like last 542 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:16,600 year's ADP was like a collective just refusal to like look at 543 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,840 anything he had done in college. Like I, I just, I'm surprised, I 544 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,280 guess, continually by how he was viewed last year. 545 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,640 I'm surprised he was drafted in round one so I I view him very 546 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,840 negatively as a result of his prospect profile. 547 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,400 But if you viewed his prospect profile less harshly then I 548 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,320 don't think anything in this rookie year was like that. 549 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,440 Objectionable. I agree with that. 550 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,320 Interesting that Wicks, for as little as we got out of him in 551 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,000 Green Bay, was third on that team in targets. 552 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,600 I mean they they were playoff team the year. 553 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,000 Before first the. Year before, no one but Dobbs 554 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,440 got as many as 56 targets last year, Watson at 55. 555 00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:59,160 So I think Green Bay was really excited to draft Golden as their 556 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,680 first wide receiver in the draft since whenever when they hosted 557 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,120 the draft. Since Lynn Swan or what the 558 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,640 fuck? It wasn't Lynn Swan, it was. 559 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,200 Who knew some. It was some Jamo from 1962. 560 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,200 It wasn't. That long ago might have been 561 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:12,960 25. Years. 562 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,240 No, it was. No, it was like 30 years. 563 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,600 Maybe 30. That's not Lynn Swan. 564 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,640 The Green Bay is so weird because they draft. 565 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,800 They draft more receivers than any team. 566 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,160 They just never did it in round one. 567 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,960 Like they're they're a locked drafted day 2 receiver every 568 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,200 year. Yes. 569 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,120 Yeah. And they're hit rates a lot. 570 00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:32,120 Good on those. Their hit rate's been good on 571 00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:34,320 those guys, I mean. I think their hit rate's been 572 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,840 good. I also think that they just have 573 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,440 a really, really effective system, which is also probably 574 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,080 why I like, I'm a little bit more side eyeing at golden 575 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,440 sufficiency in a vacuum because like everyone is efficient on 576 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,920 this team and they're not. I don't know how good everybody 577 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,960 is, right? Like Watson has had ridiculous 578 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,200 efficiency his whole career. Jaden Reeds had ridiculous fishy 579 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,240 whole career. Wicks was like a nobody who had 580 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,440 these crazy spikes early in his career. 581 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,960 It got less efficient over time. Like, it's almost like there's a 582 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,160 Green Bay tax. He was. 583 00:28:59,200 --> 00:28:59,760 Yeah. Dobbs. 584 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,360 Dobbs was fun. Good prospect. 585 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,560 Ever. There's certainly, yeah, I think 586 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,480 there's a yards for outrun like tax in the same way there is in 587 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,840 the shanty systems for Lafleur. For for sure. 588 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,640 But I mean, I, I guess argument for golden is like if, which is 589 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:17,280 still a big if at this point, if they don't add anyone like that 590 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,080 120 ADP is going to look look really, really good. 591 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,560 I think like there's there's no one on the roster currently 592 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,680 that's going to compete with them. 593 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,760 Could they draft someone or or sign, I don't know, Juwan 594 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,920 Jennings or something? Sure. 595 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,800 So we'll have to wait and see. He projects for legitimately 596 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,920 like if they don't, if they don't add anyone legit, he's 597 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:39,000 probably projecting for 85 to 90% route rate on a on a good 598 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,760 offense with no like true target dominant alpha. 599 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,720 And he's young. So I can totally well, Reed. 600 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,040 Reed is a is a is a very strong target earner, but he is 601 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,760 probably capped at a 75 to 80% route rate. 602 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,160 So like, there's, there's ceiling beyond that for Golden 603 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,920 if he's who Davis wants him to be, for sure. 604 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,000 Man, it's time for that team to get somewhere. 605 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,000 Coach and quarterback, They paid the quarterback. 606 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,160 Coach has been there a long time. 607 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,720 It's time for them to do better than 9, seven and one. 608 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,080 The wild card loss. Everyone thought he was going to 609 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,360 get fired after the after the the plan. 610 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,960 It would have been tough, but it was, it was there. 611 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,200 I don't know. So hard, it's so hard to fire a 612 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,000 Mcshaney tree coach because then you're like, what are you going 613 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,400 to do? Like we're going to get a a 614 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,040 leader of men and we're going to suck on offense. 615 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,360 Like, you kind of just have to take what the Mcshaney guys give 616 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,120 you, you know? I think, I think if there's 617 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,400 something for whatever reason they've wanted to do that 618 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,760 Lafleur has wanted to do that he hasn't done, this is it. 619 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,880 I mean, this is when you've got to you got a tough division, you 620 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,520 got to get somewhere with the team that's been this, you know, 621 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,720 decent for as long. I think. 622 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,680 Well, Wix is right on the top of our risers list for this week. 623 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,680 The rest Roshi Rice, Mike Evans, San Francisco, Montgomery and 624 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,840 Houston, Chris Rodriguez. Let's go Parker, Washington, Ted 625 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,480 Hurst, Lovett Omar, Cooper, Junior and Jordan James. 626 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:08,400 I need to talk to. Sam first, because when when Sam 627 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,160 when early in the season, well, even before Chris Rodriguez 628 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,280 signed, like before anyone signed, Sam was a Tuten hater. 629 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,480 And then immediately after Chris Rodriguez signed, like I went 630 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,280 back and forth with Sam and I agreed at the time when his ADP 631 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,840 was like 180 that, you know, even though I was a Tuten guy, C 632 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:29,000 rod was a smash 126. I think it's preposterous. 633 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,400 But so I'm really curious what Tam think Sam thinks currently 634 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:37,160 on the Rodriguez Tuten price. Yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't 635 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,440 love the 126 price. I still think it's fine though. 636 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,120 For a guy that in my opinion I think has like the slight edge 637 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,480 for like goal line work in Jacksonville with some potential 638 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,760 to have. Like I don't know what the 639 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,560 comparison for a successful fantasy season is like something 640 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,760 like JK Dobbin's role last year, like most of the carries the 641 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,920 goal line role, not really many receptions. 642 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,480 Like I think that's, that's kind of his ceiling and like a fairly 643 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:11,280 likely outcome. So at 1:26 I I think it's fine. 644 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,080 I no longer think it's like like there was a while even after the 645 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,440 signing where he was hanging around like one seventies, one 646 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,920 80s and I was like, what are we, what are we doing with this? 647 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,800 So yeah, curious what's what's your case for what? 648 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:27,320 Why is 126 like an egregious? I mean, I, I just, I, I agree 649 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,520 with what you said for the ceiling. 650 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,560 I just completely disagree on the likelihood. 651 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,040 Like I think that's a thin outcome to, to me 126. 652 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,520 Like, so I think of like Brian Robinson two years ago when he 653 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,120 just was the starter in Washington and he was going 654 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,920 around like 110 to 120 range. And I liked him there. 655 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,840 And I got into some like arguments with other people who 656 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,320 were out on him because they were saying he didn't have a 657 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,920 ceiling. And I was like, well, even if he 658 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,480 doesn't have perceiving seeing like he's just like a locked in 659 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,320 starting running back, he's going to get 200, two 150 660 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,840 carries. He's going to get 810 touchdowns 661 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,360 and it's best ball. Like it's not it's not a manage 662 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,320 league. So if you can get that in round 663 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,280 910, that's pretty darn good. My issue is Rodriguez is barely 664 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,800 going cheaper than that range. And I can see that path 665 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,680 happening, but I think for me to pay 126, I need to be like 666 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,360 really confident that's happening. 667 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,600 And I, and I think it's, I think it's just not very likely to 668 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,760 actually happen. And so I'm, I'm really confused 669 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,760 that because I guess like to me, it's like if you win that at 670 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:34,000 126, you're getting a small win. And I would need to be like 70 671 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:40,600 to 80% sure that he's getting like 180 to 220 carries and goal 672 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,560 line work to have any interest at that price. 673 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,480 And to me, I think it's like 7030 or 8020, he doesn't get 674 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,360 that kind of a role. So I'm pretty confused at how 675 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,080 confident the market is that he's getting that. 676 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,560 That that's makes sense. I mean, I, I think you've sold 677 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,560 me a bit on being lower on him. I still do think like just 678 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,840 looking at last year and I think in our Twitter exchange, I 679 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,200 brought this up like Chris Rodriguez, 13 games played last 680 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,520 year, he had 45% of the inside the five touches for the 681 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,960 Commanders, 42% of the inside, the 10 Tooting in 15 games 682 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,440 played. So more games played than Chris 683 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,000 Rodriguez, those rates were only 22% inside. 684 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,239 The 515% inside the 10. I just don't really get like, 685 00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:22,600 Chris Rodriguez said. It was like. 686 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,560 Another running back who's currently going around 3 on the 687 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,120 team last year. Yeah, but Washington was using a 688 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,560 committee of running backs, committee of like. 689 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,080 Dog shit player like there was a Travis. 690 00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:37,000 Etienne in Washington last year yeah but is Travis Etienne some 691 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,280 like world beater on the inside like between the tackles rusher 692 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,679 like I I don't think like the threshold of beating out yeah, 693 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,920 that's my point. I guess it's like, I guess I 694 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,600 don't see why do you sign Chris Rodriguez to whatever it is, $12 695 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,520 million, six million guaranteed if you're not planning on using 696 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,600 him in a pretty big inside the five. 697 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,640 Like, literally, because that's Liam Cohen's boy and they want 698 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,320 to have something in reserve in case tootin has funbulitis. 699 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,200 I think it's more the latter part. 700 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,240 Like it's to me C Rod is he's a good player who fits like 701 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,400 clearly Jacksonville is like a is pretty in tune with the the 702 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,840 running back analytics just based on the fact that they they 703 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,200 let. Etienne walk. 704 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,240 Didn't he literally say he like looks at? 705 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,360 Yeah, he did. Which like, yeah, which doesn't 706 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:25,800 surprise me. I think it was like even a week 707 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,920 ago after their offseason, I was like, this is the most thinking 708 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,120 about thinking pilled front office like I've ever seen 709 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,240 because. Like they draft Tooten new 710 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:34,120 contact because that's what he can't coach. 711 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,120 Yeah. Like they draft Tooten who was 712 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,200 like this super nerd stat friendly prospect coming out of 713 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,000 college last year. They let Etienne walk who is 714 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,320 like not that like was more of a volume sponge last year. 715 00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:51,560 And then they bring in C Rod, who I I feel torn about because 716 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,200 on one hand, I think he is, like Davis always says, he stinks. 717 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,440 And I disagree with you. I think he's actually quite good 718 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,680 at his role. It's just that his role is so 719 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:04,160 limited that to me, you don't really want Chris Rodriguez to 720 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,640 be your lead running back unless you truly don't have any other 721 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,760 reasonable option. Like you don't really want a guy 722 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,440 on the field who just broadcasts what? 723 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,200 You're doing, it's the it's the Kareem Hunt. 724 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,640 It's the Kareem Hunt problem for the Chiefs. 725 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,320 Your success rate might be fine, but you're not getting chunk 726 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,480 plays. You're never getting a 27 year 727 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,040 run out of nothing. It's not even about that. 728 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,640 Like Kareem Hunt can pass protect and he can catch passes. 729 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,440 Like the Denver offense is a good example actually, because I 730 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,200 thought one of the most dysfunctional parts of their 731 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,520 offense last year was it felt like they had two different 732 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,320 offenses. They had this like run power 733 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,200 offense with JK Dobbins and then they'd sub him off the field, 734 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,240 bring in Harvey and it would be the spread offense. 735 00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:41,120 And you knew exactly what they were going to do depending on 736 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,240 which running back they had in the game. 737 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:43,800 And it was just really disjointed. 738 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:50,040 And I think the hope is Tooting projects as a potentially more 739 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,160 versatile option that you can play on on all your early down 740 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,720 snaps. He can contribute in all phases 741 00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:56,440 of the game. He can be explosive. 742 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,040 He can be in the passing game. And that's a much higher ceiling 743 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,680 offense than where one with C Rod where you're constantly 744 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:02,920 subbing him on and off the field. 745 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,480 But like, you can't just guarantee that, right? 746 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,160 I'm not saying that's 100% going to work. 747 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,960 Jags can't either. So it makes total sense to go 748 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,520 grab a guy and say, OK, at least now we know like we have a 749 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,520 competent NFL rusher on our team. 750 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,400 But if they get out there in the first couple weeks and C Rod is 751 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,800 doing his thing and Tooten's doing his thing, I think it's 752 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,360 just going to push more to Tooten because I think the 753 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,040 ceiling of your offense with Tooten is your lead back is is 754 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,240 pretty significantly higher, Especially when you look at what 755 00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:32,760 Cohen has done with his running backs in the past. 756 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,280 Like you think about how versatile they were with their 757 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,400 back usage in Tampa with White and Irving and the way they're 758 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,640 using them in the passing game. And then even last year they had 759 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,240 like a Chris Rodriguez type on the roster and Tank Bixby and 760 00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:47,040 they they got rid of him immediately and went with ETN 761 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,920 and Tooten. So it's just it's hard for me to 762 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,040 see how Rodriguez is their ideal start running back. 763 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,040 It's not hard for me to envision that Tooten is like not as good 764 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,600 as he was at Virginia Tech and, you know, doesn't fire. 765 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,440 And so they turn to Rodriguez. That's like very easy for me to 766 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,160 envision. But I think as ADP kind of 767 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,560 implies that that has to happen. Can. 768 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,800 I, I mean, Sam, you're probably ready to talk here. 769 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:14,240 I just want to say the the Bills lose the playoff game if the 770 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,520 Jaguars give the ball to Basil Tooten more than four times. 771 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,720 He went four for 51. I think sometimes what it sounds 772 00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:26,400 like to me is we get trapped in this kind of situation where 773 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,600 we're looking at last year's whole form or anything like 774 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,600 that. I mean, ETN was an established 775 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,160 starter, as it's been said here, and Washington was terrible. 776 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,360 So it's not to say that all these points aren't valid about 777 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,840 Rodriguez, but what happened in the last game they played, Liam 778 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,800 Cohen might have gone to bed that night thinking, you know, 779 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,640 yeah, we could have just won, won this game on the ground with 780 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,200 our best running back, and I couldn't figure out how to do 781 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,960 it. And then you go into the next 782 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,680 year, I don't think the money really tells me anything about 783 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,200 Rodriguez other than they wanted him. 784 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,160 That's, you know, the bills paid a second for DJ Moore. 785 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,760 Then you get DJ Moore. It's an overpay, but you have 786 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,000 him on your roster. And I think that's maybe what 787 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,960 Jackson did in the free agent sense. 788 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,160 I, I, I don't disagree with that. 789 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,360 And I think some of the reactions to like, like, first 790 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,200 of all, most of what I do on on Twitter shouldn't be taken 791 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,560 seriously. I think some of the reactions 792 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,120 that are like O2 years, 12 million for Chris Rodriguez, 793 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,240 like that started like no running back. 794 00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:19,720 We have those tweets. Yeah, we do have. 795 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,120 This just tell Davis, we have those some of those tweets to 796 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,760 back you up on that. There's no question. 797 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,120 Yeah, but I don't know. It's not a ton of the point I'm 798 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,600 trying to make. It's not a ton of money that 799 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,960 they gave a running back. I'm just not entirely convinced 800 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,880 after what Bashel Tooten did last year. 801 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,160 You had you had a good game in the playoffs against the Bills. 802 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,280 You know, Bill's rushing defense was probably what, one of the 803 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:47,720 worst five in the NFL last year. Travis ETN also gashed them. 804 00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:50,520 So I guess I'm not like putting too, too much weight into that. 805 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,080 I think he could be talented. It's just I, I don't really 806 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,240 know. He had 83 carries last year, 807 00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:59,080 clearly wasn't trusted very much in pass protection. 808 00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:04,320 And I think if I want like a running back who you know, is 809 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,560 unlikely to be a workhorse, has explosive players and is tied to 810 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,560 a good offense, I can just get DeAndre Swift 5 picks later who 811 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,600 is way more proven I think in his role in Chicago than what 812 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,520 Bashel Tooten is going to be in Jacksonville. 813 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,200 Maybe like that top 10% ceiling outcome is higher for Tooten. 814 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,720 It probably is. But I think in best ball, like 815 00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:26,400 I'm just, I'm not. I don't think Toton's a horrible 816 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,040 pick at 55. I thought he was gonna be a 817 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,960 horrible pick if he rose to like the 3-4 turn, which some people 818 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,280 were saying at 50. 5 This is just This is just the way 819 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,560 fantasy football is played now. The C rod, The C rod signing is 820 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,160 kept Tooting in Shaq like it's he's kept him from zooming 821 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,440 completely out of out of out of proportion. 822 00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:44,200 You have to pay. The. 823 00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:46,680 Tax. Now, you know, we talked about 824 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,520 this last week, Sam, but like this actually coming back to 825 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,320 when you hosted the show, this is Chase Brown versus Zach Moss, 826 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,400 except the prices are flopped. The the, the Chase Brown is 827 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,200 expensive. The Zac Moss is free, except 828 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,240 it's a Zac Moss who can't play on passing downs. 829 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,960 The issue is we just, we price ambiguity differently. 830 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,040 Like now C Rod is actually not going that far behind where 831 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,040 'cause when I made this point a couple weeks ago, C Rod's ADP 832 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,400 was like 155. And so my point is, you know, 833 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,280 they should be closer. They would have been closer. 834 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,400 Now C Rod is actually going like much closer to where Chase Brown 835 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,520 and Zac Moss went. It's just Tootin's going way 836 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,080 further ahead. So like the whole backfield is 837 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:27,600 just getting priced up more, which I think is, is fair given, 838 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,440 you know, the, the Liam Cohen effect on backfields, but it is 839 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,760 a little tough. I mean, I think the best case 840 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,280 for for for Tootin is he just has exactly what ET NS role is 841 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,520 last year. C Rod has what Tootin's role as 842 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,120 last year and La Quinta Allen's in the exact. 843 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,560 Keep in mind that Travis. ET was what I think is going to 844 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,400 happen. Was like a very, I mean, I think 845 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,760 you'd would you say shaky, underwhelming pass catcher and 846 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,240 the NFL. He had one receiving touchdown 847 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,440 last year in the first three years of his. 848 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,200 He had one receiving touchdown before the beginning of last 849 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,400 year. Three NFL seasons, he was below 850 00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:06,200 8 yards perception. I don't have his yards per out 851 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:10,600 run up right now, but like he he was not some great pass catching 852 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,400 running backs. The idea that because Tootin 853 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,880 didn't do very much of it as a rookie, he was very good at it. 854 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,200 He had I think 1.81 or 1.61 yards per out run at the 855 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:23,160 Virginia Tech. I, I'm, I mean, I think the way 856 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,120 this is going to play out is like the most easy to forecast 857 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,040 of all time, which is tooten plays a slightly decreased ETN 858 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,320 role, Chris Rodriguez plays a slightly expanded tooten role 859 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:39,440 from last year, and the Quinn Allen is Samaj P Ryan or Dari on 860 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,280 the wall get. His own get his own turn in, 861 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,000 because that's what I just said two minutes ago. 862 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,560 Yeah, I, I completely, I just, I just completely agree like. 863 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,320 People just jumped on I. Just think there's, I just think 864 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,600 there's no mystery. There's just, there's just like 865 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,480 literally like I there's. I disagree. 866 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,040 There's a lot of mystery. I think the Jags. 867 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:55,920 I think there's a lot of mystery. 868 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,680 I think it's, I think it's, they're gonna. 869 00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,040 Yeah, I don't think they're just the. 870 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,480 Contingencies. They're gonna see. 871 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,280 They're gonna see what's happening. 872 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,480 I think they're interesting bet to be the best team in the 873 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,400 league. Yeah, I agree with that. 874 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:10,280 Then we're I don't. Know anything? 875 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:11,920 I don't know anything about their defense. 876 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:13,480 It's great. It was great last. 877 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,120 Year, it's gonna be great. They have the best corner in the 878 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,480 league now. Should be due the whom Speaking 879 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,160 of. Whom great, Sam. 880 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,240 No, I just no, no. Travis Hunter is next on the 881 00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:25,680 agenda, so please. Well, were there any other 882 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,800 risers you wanted to talk about? We only talked about one of. 883 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,680 Them, no, for me, not really. You guys can do it. 884 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,280 We kind of covered it, buddy. Some are obvious. 885 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,160 They're veterans. I was more awesome, Sam, because 886 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,600 he he hasn't covered you guys yet while we have. 887 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,760 Well, I mean, we've got 900. I can. 888 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,120 Do like a 30 minute in fair in fairness show if you haven't 889 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,840 covered many of them either because we just scream over the 890 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,120 top of you. So if you want to. 891 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,080 Talk about if that's. I've been talking to my kids 892 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,680 over here on the left the whole time about. 893 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,680 So Davis and I'll just sit in the corner and we get Mike and. 894 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,320 Sam we can take we can just mute Jacob and Davis and we can do a 895 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,760 little one time here. I did I did want to have the I 896 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,680 don't know if you guys have talked about Mike Evans much. 897 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,320 I didn't want to have the conversation about no we. 898 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,360 Saved that for you. We haven't been done. 899 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,960 The guy I, I don't really. So Mike Evans, he's now shot up 900 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,040 in ADP to what, 45? He's like cleared the other 901 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,600 veteran wide receiver, you know that it's similar age but it's 902 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,560 produced better recently in Devante Adams. 903 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,840 He's the head of someone like the younger wide receivers with 904 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,320 pretty solid track records of production last couple years. 905 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,080 Terry McLaren, Jalen Waddle. I guess I just don't like really 906 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,360 understand it. He had a career low in yards for 907 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,960 route run last year at 1.6. You know, nagging injuries once 908 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,120 again, I guess that the collarbone injury certainly you 909 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,720 can can chalk up as sort of a fluke thing. 910 00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:42,160 Maybe maybe don't knock him for that. 911 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,840 But you know, he he's dealt with hamstring injuries, all sorts of 912 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,640 soft tissue stuff over the years. 913 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,640 And then the NFL told us like they don't value him that much. 914 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,080 He got three years, 42 with just 16,000,000 guaranteed. 915 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,520 Like Devante Adams, Stephon Diggs easily cleared that in the 916 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,080 contracts they got last year. Even Cooper Cup, like the late 917 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,440 stage Cooper Cup cleared that and what he got from Seattle 918 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,960 last year. So like maybe you're telling me 919 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,400 that Evans took the compete for a Super Bowl discount in San? 920 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,320 Francisco did that's It's been reported that Tampa offered him 921 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,680 like 20 million more than he took in San Fran. 922 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,400 OK, if that's been, I guess my only counter to that is like, 923 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,960 it's not like Super Bowl contenders weren't shelling out 924 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,280 money at wide receiver this year. 925 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,880 Like the Patriots signed Romeo Dobbs to a huge contract. 926 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,160 The Seahawks signed Rashid Shahid to to more than Evans 927 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,320 made. So like there were other 928 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,520 contenders that looked at Evans and said, now we're good, we'll 929 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,960 take, you know, Rashid Shahid and Romeo Dobbs, right? 930 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,200 So I don't know, maybe maybe Tampa Bay was willing to give 931 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,000 him that, you know, hometown surplus, but I don't think there 932 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,720 were a ton of other teams that were willing to pay him that. 933 00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:50,920 So I guess I'm just like, why, why, why should we be drafting 934 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,640 Mike Evans ahead of like Devante Adams, who just easily out 935 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:59,120 produced him last year? I I guess I just don't don't 936 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,800 quite get it. Basically because it's Mike 937 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,080 Evans and Shanahan wide receiver one go Burr like honest and and 938 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,160 he yeah I. Don't care because the round 4 939 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,720 is where I take Luther burden so. 940 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,280 Let's go. Yeah, but but Jacob doesn't even 941 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,560 see Evans on his on his. Board I, I only, I only click 942 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,160 members of the Chicago. I only click New York Jets in 943 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,360 round 3 and Bears in round four. It's it's Hall or Wilson every 944 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,080 time in three and then in four every. 945 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,640 Actually it's Smith like half the time. 946 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,920 But if it's not Smith, it's it's Burden or it's Loveland. 947 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,640 So I don't see anyone else. Yeah. 948 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,560 If you're forced to pick between Mike Evans, Jalen Waddle, Terry 949 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,400 Mclaurin, Devonte Adams, Waddle, yeah, OK. 950 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:43,400 I think brought by a lot. Yeah, I might go Evans over 951 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,440 Adams, though. Like Adams's season was just not 952 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,880 that impressive. Other than that he caught 14 953 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,960 touchdowns, which that's really impressive, but like he only had 954 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,960 760 yards last year. The efficiency to climb was 955 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,200 pretty dramatic. Maybe he just catches another 14 956 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,760 touchdowns, but I thought he fell off to a pretty meaningful 957 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,560 degree overall. Now, so did Evans, but the one 958 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,680 thing that you could say for Evans is he has a plausible path 959 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,840 to be the number one target on the Niners, right? 960 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,120 I mean, I don't really know what to make a pure saw kills coming 961 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,360 off the Achilles. So I think there's some target 962 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,680 for sure that exists for him that Adams I think is capped 963 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,480 into. You're kind of hoping he just 964 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,000 runs back what he had last year, which is distant two to puka, 965 00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:27,440 but catches 12 plus touchdowns. And I think that's plausible. 966 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,560 Yeah, but you need a pretty specific outcome, I think with 967 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,920 him. That's that makes sense. 968 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,560 I almost said that's fair, but I held back. 969 00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:39,520 I I do think that my only point on the Adam singly, I've heard 970 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,640 this brought up a lot like, oh, is is yards per target dropped a 971 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,000 bunch last year. Like when you're literally the 972 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,040 goal line running back for a team at wide receiver and you 973 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:52,320 catch 14 touchdowns, that's a meaningful amount of targets 974 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,960 that are going to be how many one or two yard catches did he 975 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,240 have for touchdowns last year? Oh, good question. 976 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,920 Oh, a shit ton. A shit ton right, I believe. 977 00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:04,040 I believe 5 inside the three yard line I think was. 978 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,360 Yeah, so like, I don't know, it's like should we be knocking? 979 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,440 Like do we knock like Jerome Bettis's yards per carry when he 980 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,400 used the Steelers goal line back because he scores touchdowns at 981 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,320 the 1 yard line? Like I don't know, to me it's 982 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,960 just like a little bit like he watch Devonte Adams goal line 983 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,640 reps and then tell me he was. Well, I think he's elite. 984 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,800 At that, yeah. I just don't know that he has 985 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,160 the rest of the profile still there. 986 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,520 Like his his deep target efficiency last year was bad. 987 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,080 And so I, I think he is I, I don't think he's fallen off in 988 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,680 all facets of the game. I just think some of the some of 989 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,840 the deep and intermediate stuff isn't really where it used to 990 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,600 be. I don't think he's like and even 991 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,000 I mean, frankly, even if he was still is good to good enough to 992 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,240 be a target. A dominant wide receiver 1 like 993 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,280 Kook is earning like 36% target run. 994 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,280 So there's not really that much room available for another one. 995 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:55,880 But I don't know. I've taken Adams. 996 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,840 I haven't been like a full fade on Adams. 997 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,920 I've taken more of him than Evans just because Evans goes 998 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,520 too close to Smith, Loveland, Burden, who are huge, yeah, huge 999 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,760 targets for me. 14 touchdown catches for Mike Evans since the 1000 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,880 start of 20247 were from 2 yards or less. 1001 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,120 Yeah. Not gonna not gonna be good for 1002 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,240 the arts for target on the spreadsheet, but we'll take the 1003 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,760 we'll take the goal line running back, a wide receiver on our 1004 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,440 fantasy teams. Crucially, that's pretty good. 1005 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,600 Christian McCaffrey might like a piece of that. 1006 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,920 Next year he was basic. He was basically Christian 1007 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,560 McCaffrey last year. Yeah, while we pivot to Hunter, 1008 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,480 let me just say quickly, Oh yeah, tomorrow on the channel 1009 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,320 Dynasty rookie mock draft, Ron Stewart, Ryan Heath, Blair 1010 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,840 Andrews and Pete. So look for that. 1011 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:46,920 Hunter is a good one also to talk about any what do we got 1012 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,160 here? I mean, I just found this poll 1013 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,720 last week so infuriating just from like the perspective of 1014 00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:56,880 literacy because we've all known what the deal was with Hunter. 1015 00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,440 I mean, obviously there's ambiguities within ambiguities, 1016 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,120 but big picture, we've kind of all known the deal since 1017 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,840 January. Like they extended Jacoby 1018 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,080 Parker, Washington had a huge breakout. 1019 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,720 And so we've all known like if they don't trade Brian Thomas, 1020 00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:14,680 which looks like they won't, that he's he's wide receiver 1021 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,440 four and he also plays cornerback. 1022 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,320 So he's probably going to play more cornerback and they let 1023 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,840 Greg Newsome walk. So the like big picture I think 1024 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,860 has always been pretty clear now whether a full time corner, part 1025 00:50:24,860 --> 00:50:30,000 time wide receiver means 40% routes or 20% routes, like who 1026 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,760 knows? You know, what's the contingency 1027 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,400 plan on if there's an injury at wide receiver and he's playing 1028 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,400 full time corner, can he play 80% routes at wide receiver and 1029 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,240 80% snaps at corner? Like we don't know. 1030 00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:43,920 There's a lot of unknowns. But the big picture I think has 1031 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,560 been completely the same this whole offseason. 1032 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,480 It's just that this Evan Sidery goofball like aggregated a 1033 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:55,520 Rappaport like news hit with completely made-up words where 1034 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,500 he like instead of saying what Rappaport said, which was full 1035 00:50:58,500 --> 00:51:01,640 time corner, part time wide receiver, which is the same 1036 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,320 thing that Schefter said. It's the same thing that Cameron 1037 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,440 Wolf reported in January. He just said gadget and he said 1038 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,800 he won't be playing both ways. So he just overstated it to get 1039 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,160 engagement. It worked. 1040 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,960 Everybody gave him his engagement and then like all of 1041 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:19,480 a sudden these like goofs get on an NFL Network and are like just 1042 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,720 repeating this game of telephone from a wrongly reported report. 1043 00:51:23,720 --> 00:51:26,880 So it was really weird. The only thing about. 1044 00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:30,520 Before you continue, the only thing I would disagree with 1045 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,760 about Rappaport is that it was intentional. 1046 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,400 I don't think. I think every one of his tweets 1047 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,240 comes with some sort of, you know, platitude at the end. 1048 00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:39,840 I don't think he was doing it for clicks. 1049 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,080 I think that's. Just I don't think what 1050 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,360 Rappaport said is bad. I'm I'm saying what what Evan 1051 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,680 Cidery, the guy who like aggregated the wrap up because 1052 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,920 Rappaport said it in a news hit. He didn't even have an initial 1053 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,800 tweet about it. He just said it like on a in a 1054 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,000 video form. And then Cidery was like, Ian 1055 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,560 Rappaport just said that he's no longer playing both ways. 1056 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,040 He'll be a full time quarterback with a few gadget plays at 1057 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,320 receiver. It's like that's not actually 1058 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,400 what Ian Rappaport said. And so that everybody went went 1059 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,560 riled with that. So yeah, I'm. 1060 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,600 I'm giving him my cidery eye. Yeah. 1061 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,080 I mean, I don't know, I. Insider. 1062 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,280 I'm totally fine drafting Travis Hunter like the price tag of 1063 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,600 160, but I'm curious what Sam thinks. 1064 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:23,200 I I'm also pro hunter like I sure not as much as you are 1065 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:28,520 Jacob, but I if you know he stays at 15160, I definitely 1066 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,080 would want to be above weight. I do think it's like probably 1067 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,280 most of his outcomes now where he matters. 1068 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,600 We probably need like an injury for him to be like a big hit. 1069 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,280 I still think he can be like a decent sized hit even without 1070 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,080 injury. I certainly think Brian Thomas 1071 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:47,320 trade probably not completely impossible now though it seems a 1072 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,440 lot less likely. I think Parker Washington really 1073 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,720 coming from doing nothing in his first two years in the NFL 1074 00:52:53,720 --> 00:52:56,600 career, wouldn't surprise me if he just crashes back down to 1075 00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,200 earth next year and is is sidelined. 1076 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:00,000 A bit. You can't. 1077 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,040 You cannot tell people on the Internet that Parker Washington 1078 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,040 has fucking legions of fans, buddy. 1079 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,440 He he's the most beloved. Player in the NFL. 1080 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,720 He. He is the most beloved player in 1081 00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:13,600 the NFL right now, Jacob. Well, the people there's Kate 1082 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,800 Travis Hunter, like it's not even just a fantasy thing. 1083 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,720 Like like even taking fantasy out of it completely. 1084 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,760 I mean, let's say he's never remotely useful fantasy player 1085 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,000 for the rest of his career. The amount of people that have 1086 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:28,560 like spent the whole offseason just dunking on the the Jaguars 1087 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,600 trade and being like this proves like biggest worst trade of all 1088 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,240 time, biggest draft bust of all time. 1089 00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:37,360 Like, like it's, it's just people have complete Travis 100 1090 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,040 arrangement syndrome. Like, he played half a season 1091 00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:44,000 and then he tore his knee and then he's gonna play this. 1092 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,320 I don't know. What if he's just an awesome 1093 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,880 cornerback? And what if he's Pat Sir Tan and 1094 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,760 then he's also chips in a little wide receiver? 1095 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,040 We're sure that's the worst draft pick of all time. 1096 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,000 Seems a little early to say to me. 1097 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,440 It's all down. It's all downstream of of Dion 1098 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,080 hate and Colorado Buffaloes hate and like ESPN hate, like 1099 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,280 manufactured consent. People hate manufactured consent 1100 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:09,160 these days. I agree with. 1101 00:54:09,240 --> 00:54:12,720 This ton of manufactured consent on the like, no one gave a shit 1102 00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:15,120 about Colorado Buffalo's football, but every time you 1103 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,600 looked at the TV you had to hear about. 1104 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,960 It's why. It's honestly why people have 1105 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,720 such a visceral reaction to Chadur, who, like, is kind of 1106 00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:25,880 just your run-of-the-mill day three quarterback who got some 1107 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,720 starts for a shitty team. Like, what's the difference 1108 00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:31,600 between Shitter Sanders and Nick Mullens? 1109 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,080 You know, his famous daddy? Like, that's it. 1110 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:39,080 And so I think it's all I, I, in my opinion, it's all like a 1111 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:43,040 cultural artifact of how people resent the media and the way 1112 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:47,680 that they are served content these days, of which Travis 1113 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,480 Hunter never really asked to be a part of. 1114 00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:53,440 He just wanted, like, Travis Hunter is not really a part of 1115 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:54,800 this. Like, he is not a big 1116 00:54:55,240 --> 00:54:57,520 braggadocious guy. I mean, maybe you don't like the 1117 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,960 Adidas commercial with Travis Hunter, which also seems pretty 1118 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,280 harmless, right? I mean, it's just him having fun 1119 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,480 with his buddy. I I don't really understand it. 1120 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,720 I've always found Travis Hunter endearing. 1121 00:55:07,720 --> 00:55:10,240 I like his bit of like, aw shucks, I'm just a guy. 1122 00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:13,920 I like to fish and play video games, whatever. 1123 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,920 But yeah, people really hate it. Is that the Lawrence ad? 1124 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,040 Yeah, the the Adidas I never. Knew what that was for. 1125 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,920 But it's Adidas. It's like a song. 1126 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,960 It's like he. No, I know the ad. 1127 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,200 I just never knew what it was for. 1128 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,600 One of my superpowers is not paying attention to what these 1129 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:30,720 things are for. I know the ad. 1130 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,120 Yes, you have but. I love not knowing what that was 1131 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,680 an ad for. I hope the VP marketing for 1132 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,040 Adidas isn't watching this program. 1133 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,680 I get fired tomorrow. There goes. 1134 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:46,040 Ultimately my opinion is this is that every time I've been doing 1135 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,160 best ball and fantasy football for a long time, I would guess 1136 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:53,040 the side that under reacts to the swing on these things wins 1137 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,320 what 85% of the time? Like the idiots who were 1138 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,520 drafting Travis Hunter wherever the fuck we were drafting him 1139 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,920 last year. Dumbest people alive Fading him 1140 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,240 at 1:50 or 160 or 170 wherever he is this year. 1141 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,200 Just as dumb. Like maybe even Dumber because 1142 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:11,160 the price is is cheaper. I I still maintain he absolutely 1143 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,000 smashes the whole second-half of last season. 1144 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,320 If he doesn't get hurt, no, we were, we were. 1145 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:21,480 We were probably wrong because we were unable to. 1146 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,920 I honestly, I think the reason we were wrong is that we were 1147 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:29,440 unable to forecast how much the the how intricate the Liam Cohen 1148 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,720 offense was. And because the Colorado offense 1149 00:56:31,720 --> 00:56:36,120 was so basic, there was a like the Jaguars led the NFL in pre 1150 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,480 snap motion penalties before their bye week. 1151 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,120 And Hunter, the coaches had said this multiple times. 1152 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:42,240 It's like he's got a lot on his place. 1153 00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:44,960 He's trying to learn both. He's wait, he's behind the other 1154 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,920 guys. Yeah, I do think there was a lot 1155 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,880 of weirdness. Felt like even weirder arguably 1156 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,040 than the Hunter season last year was the Brian Thomas season, 1157 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:58,000 going from like a top top three rookie wide receiver season of 1158 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:04,040 all time to like. Oh, depends. 1159 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:05,840 It depends on who you want to believe. 1160 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,480 But and this somehow is not being talked about Jacob. 1161 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,480 I mean, maybe this is being talked about in your dynasty 1162 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,440 fantasy football circles, but it's not being talked about in 1163 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,960 mine. He got that wrist injury really 1164 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,000 early on that was apparently super painful. 1165 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,000 So he it just was like almost like and the wrist I think 1166 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,000 healed over time, but it was like a mental thing of like, I 1167 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,000 just don't want to be smoked in the middle of the field. 1168 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,400 That's why it's why he kept. I mean, it did look like the 1169 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,480 Gator arms. Yes, it definitely looked like 1170 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,240 he, it definitely looked like he had the yips because he was so 1171 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,320 afraid to get smoked over the middle. 1172 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,600 And I mean, look, God love Trevor Lawrence. 1173 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,400 The man loves a freaking hospital ball, you know. 1174 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,720 That well speaking, that's the other thing too. 1175 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,640 Like people also love hating on Trevor Lawrence. 1176 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,800 So it's like a whole like confluence of like people that 1177 00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,120 people like to hate on. And also, let's be real. 1178 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,640 Because Trevor, let's be real, out last year and he's going to 1179 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,440 be awesome. For I just channel all my hate 1180 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,520 at base shelt too and that's how I approach the Jaguars 1181 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,640 situation. Yeah, you hate like that. 1182 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,200 And also now people hate too and like they're like just they're 1183 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,040 like the slappy team. So everybody hates the How are 1184 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,080 you playing the Jags, Sam? Like I'm getting the sense you 1185 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,440 might not be the biggest Parker Washington fan. 1186 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:13,920 Are you in on Thomas? Are you in on Myers? 1187 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,760 Like are you in on because it is interesting. 1188 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,080 Like they there's such a weird team where they win 13 games 1189 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,120 last year, their offense over the the second-half of the year 1190 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,400 straight fire. But there's no one that's that 1191 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,600 expensive. It's it's Tooting in round 5, 1192 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:32,480 Parker round 6, Brian Thomas round 6, Myers round 7 and then 1193 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,160 and then Strange in Hunter Light. 1194 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:39,320 Yeah, I I've mostly been playing it through Thomas Hunter and 1195 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,160 Chris Rodriguez, which we don't have to talk about again. 1196 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:46,520 But Rodriguez, I think Brian Thomas, this is what I've been 1197 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,320 working on his little side project this offseason. 1198 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,200 I think, Jacob, you actually have this point in like a month 1199 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,440 ago, I was ADP chasing where you said figuring out the year 3 1200 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,880 wide receivers is going to be like the key to fantasy 1201 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,160 football. Because I, I think there's so 1202 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,400 much truth in that, like a Doonese, Brian Thomas, Ladd 1203 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:07,040 Mcconkey, Marvin Harrison, even the leak neighbors with the, the 1204 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,800 injury, like there's so many kind of unique Special 1205 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:14,000 Situations going on with all these guys that I really want to 1206 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,840 figure out how to play. I think with like Mcconkey and 1207 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,000 Brian Thomas, the question is like how should we think about 1208 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,320 wide receiving? Why is LADS so much more 1209 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,760 expensive than BTJ? Has anyone been able to logic 1210 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,080 that one out? Because I think #1. 1211 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,160 Less target competition plus Mike McDaniel, even though Liam 1212 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,640 Cohen's the lead as well. People are giving him the like 1213 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,520 Mike McDaniel boost in a way that, like Thomas is not getting 1214 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:41,360 the Liam Cohen boost, I think. But anyways, like, how do you 1215 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,960 treat guys that had top five rookie wide receiver seasons 1216 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,480 ever in terms of like yards to route run efficiency over the 1217 00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:51,720 last decade who like completely cratered to pedestrian numbers 1218 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,280 in year 2? It's it's kind of like almost an 1219 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,760 unanswerable question because there's not a lot of historical, 1220 00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,080 not a lot of guys who've done it. 1221 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,880 Yeah. Like Chase, I tried to look kind 1222 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,680 of Chase Claypole, but he wasn't nearly as good as that. 1223 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,760 A. Little yeah, I mean, there's 1224 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,160 been there's been plenty of rookies that have been like 1225 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:12,400 elite if you just look at like the per out stuff yes and then 1226 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:16,640 fell off yeah, like Christian Watson had this crazy rookie 1227 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,520 year and then fell off the next year and Clay pulls under one. 1228 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,280 But in terms of receivers who were actual full time players 1229 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:29,120 for all or almost all of their full rookie season, like for the 1230 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,880 most part, if they're that good, you're one they just turn into 1231 01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,720 superstars. I mean, it's also worth being 1232 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,000 said like Thomas was, I mean obviously a really good 1233 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:41,000 prospect, but was not like the caliber. 1234 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,280 More, well, Lad. Lad had holes as a prospect too. 1235 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:45,920 And Lad, that's just like, fairly played. 1236 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,440 Yeah, yeah. So yeah, that's what I was going 1237 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,240 to say. Like both Thomas and Mcconkey 1238 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:54,200 were like, we're we're surprisingly elite rookies 1239 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,800 compared to their prospect profile, but then even more 1240 01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:00,640 surprisingly bad in year 2 compared to year one. 1241 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,240 So yeah, I don't know. Like I've said, I think it's the 1242 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:05,800 most important question in fantasy. 1243 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,280 I still don't have an answer. Yeah, I don't either. 1244 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,200 But I do think that probably one of these guys is gonna be a 1245 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,160 league winner, and I think a couple of them are gonna be 1246 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,040 crappy. But yeah, it's interesting. 1247 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:21,120 Thomas just feels like the best, like, to me right now, at least 1248 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,520 the best price adjusted bet out of that cohort of guys. 1249 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,760 Like just 'cause you have to pay a lot more for Mcconkey and like 1250 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,680 Thomas is, yeah, like, at least on a it didn't. 1251 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,160 Another first round wide receiver from that class who is 1252 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:36,520 even cheaper or sorry. Oh, enough about Xavier. 1253 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,160 Worthy enough? Oh God. 1254 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,280 He's the only one with the legitimate excuse. 1255 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,360 He's the only one. He's the only one who actually 1256 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,520 has an excuse. Sam hasn't been podcasting with 1257 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,080 Davis enough recently where like he didn't actually know who 1258 01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,920 you're referring to. But I it was within about .1 1259 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,560 seconds, you know, Jacob another. 1260 01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,760 I was like, oh, it's that short little squib on Kansas City. 1261 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,120 You're right about that. You weren't even with us yet. 1262 01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,440 The first thing Davis told Sam when we hooked up was like, you 1263 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:05,960 got to change that room around. You got to get rid of that 1264 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,280 mirror in the back. You got to get the lights wrong. 1265 01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:12,040 He starts rearranging Sam's house before we even started. 1266 01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:13,640 Jacksonville's going to be so good. 1267 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,640 One play against the Bills. Don't they go to Denver and win? 1268 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,360 Don't they beat New England? I mean they they just were that 1269 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:20,120 close last. Year. 1270 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,800 Oh thank God. Thank God dude. 1271 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,760 Marion hack versus a mystery competitor. 1272 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,400 So good. Who is this? 1273 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:30,080 Who is it? Sam. 1274 01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:31,760 Who is it? Say his name? 1275 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,280 Say his name. Charlotte T Higgins. 1276 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:38,760 Is this is this one Don't. You. 1277 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,360 It's T Higgins. What? 1278 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,080 What? Oh did he have like 2 carries 1279 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:44,520 last year? How? 1280 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,880 How many carries? It's, it's keep, it's, it's, 1281 01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,400 it's, it's my guy. It's Mr. it's Mr. Missile. 1282 01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,280 I I mean. Keith Mitchell is the T Higgins 1283 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,320 of 2020, you know. He is. 1284 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:57,960 I hope. I hope to get him on every 1285 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,280 single show. Surely Sam's on Team me and Pat 1286 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,560 here, right? Like this would be the craziest 1287 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,880 heel turn of all time if Sam comes on the program and he's. 1288 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,400 Actually, it would be I'm I'm honestly on baited breath. 1289 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,240 I'm I'm on the Jacob and Pat's side. 1290 01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:14,680 I wish I could join. Come on man. 1291 01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,960 He did have something like I always love looking at his 1292 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,480 rookie year stats where he had like 9.4 yards per carry on like 1293 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,560 80 carries, or I'm paraphrasing a little bit, but it's something 1294 01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,080 insane like that. A real Davis stat right there 1295 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,520 where it's like directionally accurate but overstated. 1296 01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,440 It's a little bit of a lie, but it's actually less of a lie than 1297 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,640 you think. It's less of a lie than than the 1298 01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,360 haters think. Keaton Mitchell's rookie season 1299 01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:43,240 he did average 8.4 yards per carry, 40. 9 yards, 49. 1300 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,560 Yards per game. They had a home game that they 1301 01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:49,600 won by 40 where he busted one late and just took over the 1302 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,600 backfield because they were so far ahead, and then he for his 1303 01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:57,720 ACL right in a game shortly thereafter and that was it for 1304 01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:58,320 Mitchell. Yep. 1305 01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,160 And then it was and then it was curtains and then he was really 1306 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:06,880 poor in his return in 2024. They they honestly did really, 1307 01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,080 they did really try to get him going. 1308 01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,920 Like you could see there was a concerted effort to make him a 1309 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,600 part of the offense last year and he still until the back half 1310 01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,400 of the year, he got better at the start of the year. 1311 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,240 He he was not he was not 100%. You could just see. 1312 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,000 Yeah, for sure. He wasn't quite there. 1313 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,640 I. I mean, maybe I'm just not being 1314 01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,520 creative enough, but I, I, I think I kind of land with Jacob 1315 01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,320 and Pat on like what is the, what is the comparison of sort 1316 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,960 of like a package player, explosive rusher that doesn't 1317 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:37,560 play in the receiving game that like. 1318 01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:41,000 There is there the the the comparison is from the fucking 1319 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,840 offense that the courts just left. 1320 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:49,600 Most of it's Hampton. The most infuriating thing to me 1321 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:55,000 is that Davis Davis likes so many of the same running backs 1322 01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,720 that I do for different reasons. And like Tootin is 1 where he 1323 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,080 had like a lot of fancy nerd sats but he was also really 1324 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,160 fast. And then HN is another one, 1325 01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,280 probably the biggest one where like I liked him for like volume 1326 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:10,960 based production reasons. Well, HNHN is no no no on HN. 1327 01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,800 So sometimes the the the Venn diagram overlap, we're we're. 1328 01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,800 Simpatico on HN because the thing that we both liked about 1329 01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,120 him was that he doesn't know he's small. 1330 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,800 He he plays as if he is Omari in Hampton's size. 1331 01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,320 That's the thing that I liked about HN. 1332 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,160 Right. But Keaton, But you said 1333 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,040 Keaton's better, So what does he bring to the table? 1334 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,680 He's just he's our generation's Chris Johnson. 1335 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,320 The thing the thing that Keaton Mitchell brings to the table is 1336 01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,480 is that is that when Mike McDaniel draws up his fancy 1337 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,800 bullshit run to the edge, flip it around, scoop Dee Doo 1338 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,400 misdirection. That is going to Keaton 1339 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:52,120 Mitchell, not Amari and Hampton. And it's definitely not going to 1340 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,680 Kimani Bidel, who is, you know, Jacob famously and thinking 1341 01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:59,280 about thinking you had the P Rhine line for a while. 1342 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:00,760 I. Samaj P Line. 1343 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,880 The Samaj P line correct So now that P Ryan I think is he might 1344 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,040 just be done because he's not I think he's. 1345 01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,480 Still on the P line isn't he? With the Bengals, he got a two 1346 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:09,920 year. Contract. 1347 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:11,840 He's an unrestricted free agent, isn't he? 1348 01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,560 Or maybe they resigned him. Oh, is he still on the Bengals? 1349 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,120 I thought he signed A2 year last? 1350 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,960 Year. Bengals are. 1351 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,640 Like Wikipedia says, he's still on the Bengals, for what it's 1352 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:24,840 worth. I have him on Spotrac right now 1353 01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,920 he is under contract but he signed A2 year. 1354 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:28,360 Deal last year. You know what that actually? 1355 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,840 Makes me feel on. That makes me feel a lot better 1356 01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,920 about Chase Brown. About about Chase Brown. 1357 01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,400 Yeah, P Ryan, by the way, undrafted and he's a steal. 1358 01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:36,440 You can get him anytime. You want? 1359 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,880 Yeah, actually, I'm gonna start. I was just talking about how 1360 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:43,280 disgusting these late round running backs are, like Semaj P 1361 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,120 Ryan. Welcome to the 20th round, 1362 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,720 Knicks buddy. Yeah, people are out here 1363 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,960 drafting DJ Giddens. You know who's going to come? 1364 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:55,840 On come on E Fidel is he is now. He's now transformed himself 1365 01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:59,320 into Gen. Z Somash P line. 1366 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,440 Yeah, he's, he's a total P line. For come on, E Vidal's a good 1367 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,640 Dick too. Sure. 1368 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:09,680 Agreed. Hey guys, you guys in your lack 1369 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:13,480 of imagination, man. I, I mean, I have an imagination 1370 01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,080 like I, I think that Keaton is going to play a role for the 1371 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,200 Chargers clearly. I just think it's like a a very 1372 01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:22,200 limited role that has very little contingency outside. 1373 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,440 See, so the I think like honest to God, if I'm being serious, we 1374 01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,560 that's where we disagree. We disagree on what would happen 1375 01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,040 were Amari and Hampton to miss time. 1376 01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:36,560 You the, the, you know, the more conservative faction of the ship 1377 01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,760 chasing extended universe would say it would be, it would be 1378 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,000 Kimani Bidel who would get the step up in playing time and I 1379 01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,040 say it would be Keaton Mitchell and I. 1380 01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,960 Could, I mean, I think they, I think they both would, but I, I 1381 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,280 do think Vidal was just like a little bit too good last year 1382 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,080 when he had to step up into the Hampton roll for him not to get 1383 01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:55,640 the first crack. I think so. 1384 01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:57,680 I think he's going. To they paid Keaton. 1385 01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:03,240 OK, they paid Keaton five times. What Rashad White is making does 1386 01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:04,800 that? Is that convincing to anyone? 1387 01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,720 That actually, well, not. Really, until you learn what 1388 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,080 Rashad White is making, it's a little. 1389 01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:11,720 Bit yes, that's why I. Bring it. 1390 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,120 I don't think it look, I mean I. Didn't say the numbers. 1391 01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,840 Like every every shitty running back that got more money this 1392 01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,040 year than Rashad White was just like it. 1393 01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,319 It gave me one more degree of happiness. 1394 01:08:24,319 --> 01:08:26,399 Like as like. When it when Emmanuel Wilson 1395 01:08:26,399 --> 01:08:28,240 came in. Emmanuel Wilson. 1396 01:08:28,359 --> 01:08:30,720 Yeah, just. We want you. 1397 01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:32,319 How much do you want? OK, fine. 1398 01:08:32,319 --> 01:08:33,520 You're the guy we want. That's it. 1399 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:37,960 I'm more distracted by the idea of the more conservative wing of 1400 01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:41,120 the ship chasing or the fancy football community. 1401 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,120 What that exactly looks like? What does the? 1402 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,520 Ball name of Back in football community, I would say I'm I 1403 01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,120 have to be the the most slappy right. 1404 01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,680 I have to be the furthest well left. 1405 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:55,399 This is why it's a spectrum. Davis is like you're the 1406 01:08:55,399 --> 01:08:58,880 slappiest, but you're not necessarily the furthest left. 1407 01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,680 Like you're, you're the most middle slappy because there's 1408 01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,640 there's right wing slap like as we went over last year, right, 1409 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,479 the most right wing slappy player last year was Tank 1410 01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,120 Bigsby. And then the middle slappy is 1411 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,920 like Jameson Williams. Your left wing slappies are your 1412 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,920 facial tunes. Well, Sam, you've been invited 1413 01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:19,279 without me asking you. But after the draft set aside 1414 01:09:19,279 --> 01:09:22,040 about two to three hours, me, you and Davis are doing a full a 1415 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,800 full podcast to reveal the 2026 slapses. 1416 01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:26,200 So. You'll we should, we should do 1417 01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,399 that, yeah. Yeah, Parker Washington will be 1418 01:09:28,399 --> 01:09:31,800 featured heavily on that one. Oh my huge Parker Washington is 1419 01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,359 gonna be the top of him and Alec Pierce are the top of the right 1420 01:09:34,359 --> 01:09:35,120 wing. Slappy for. 1421 01:09:35,359 --> 01:09:37,160 Sure, Kyle. Manunga, Michael. 1422 01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:38,880 Wilson Oh, Kyle. My God. 1423 01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:40,439 Big time. I'm I'm a Michael. 1424 01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,319 I've never been happier to not be invited to a. 1425 01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,160 Party I I have never I have never seen these photos, Jacob, 1426 01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:47,680 can you? Kristen Hall and actually also 1427 01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,920 got an invite to that show. We'll see if he makes time for 1428 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:51,399 us. What is happening with these 1429 01:09:51,399 --> 01:09:52,640 photos? Shoop, do you know what's? 1430 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,160 Happening not. No idea, Jonah. 1431 01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,880 Coleman, what's going on? Lately, both supposed to be him. 1432 01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:59,000 Are these both fans? I don't know. 1433 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:00,520 I don't know either. I don't know. 1434 01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,920 I didn't get some on this I. Assume they are taken from 1435 01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:09,160 different perspectives because you can see you can see the line 1436 01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:10,960 on the wall. So the photos are just taken 1437 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:14,200 from different perspectives. The question is, is wait 1438 01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,480 purposely trying to look fat in the first one? 1439 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:22,640 That's Mike, Leonie and Herzig, right? 1440 01:10:23,480 --> 01:10:24,960 Is this what Zach is doing to us here? 1441 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:31,080 I just, I, I, I'm, I'm stunned, I'm, I have not seen these. 1442 01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,600 It's it's completely stunning to me. 1443 01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:37,760 If you Google Jonah Coleman shirtless, which we all have, 1444 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,120 we. All have done. 1445 01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:40,600 That we all have. We've all done this. 1446 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:45,600 There is something from the Washington Huskies UW Doghouse 1447 01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:49,320 Facebook page that says sure, Gretchen knows all about that, 1448 01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:53,960 Says it's a before and after of him preparing for the combine, 1449 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,760 allegedly, but he's a different height. 1450 01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:57,800 What's? What's going on? 1451 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,400 It's a line. The line is a key vector here. 1452 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,560 Yeah. I mean, I guess he, I guess he 1453 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:08,960 got, I guess he got swole. I don't know. 1454 01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,760 I think it's a probably an optical illusion in terms of 1455 01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,080 like how that he looks. Short, I mean. 1456 01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,320 Well, he's clearly doing like a bodybuilding pose in the second 1457 01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:18,920 one, yeah. Yeah. 1458 01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:20,160 Yeah, all I know about Joe. I don't know. 1459 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,600 I like Jonah Coleman. It cost like some people are 1460 01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,000 taking Chris Rodriguez ahead of him. 1461 01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:28,880 I wouldn't do that. Jonah Coleman is just purely on 1462 01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:30,520 vibes. You guys know I don't do a ton 1463 01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,920 of my own prospect research. Just purely on vibes from 1464 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,680 listening to the fantasy community and listening to more 1465 01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:40,560 film guys like Mike Renner or whoever, guys like that. 1466 01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:44,600 Jonah Coleman is the most like Eno Benjamin, ass player of all 1467 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:48,400 time that the fantasy community loves an NFL draft I think is 1468 01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,680 going to hate and he's going to. I don't think that's. 1469 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,560 Totally true, I think. I think that's more like, I 1470 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,880 don't think that's true. I think Jonah Coleman is just 1471 01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:02,120 the the rookie version of like the running back that ship 1472 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,160 chasing is going to hate in three years. 1473 01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,080 Yeah, Like, I think he's going to be the David Montgomery, 1474 01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:14,280 Javonte Williams from Andre Stevenson guy who like we all 1475 01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,000 despise in three years, but we'll draft as a rookie. 1476 01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:21,600 But he also might be, he also might be the Zach Moss, Royce 1477 01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,880 Freeman, like guy who never does anything. 1478 01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,200 But he's he can't be the he can't be the, you know, Benjamin 1479 01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,360 because he's so slow. Like he might not. 1480 01:12:29,480 --> 01:12:31,560 He might not be faster than a 47. 1481 01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:33,800 Sure. I was just trying to make the 1482 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:37,520 point of like the production versus the draft capital, but 1483 01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:41,040 OK, he's actually, yeah, pick 99 on the consensus big board. 1484 01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:45,120 That's actually better than I think it's been a recent week. 1485 01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,960 So maybe he'll get day three, round four capital. 1486 01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,920 That could be fine. He's been falling like when this 1487 01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,840 when when it first opened, he was predicted to go like round 1488 01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,760 two and then he didn't work out at the combine and then he 1489 01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,720 didn't work out at the pro day, which. 1490 01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:02,880 Like I see wonder why all? Swole for nothing and it was 1491 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,040 like apparently it was apparently due to like an ankle 1492 01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:06,880 injury that he missed 0 games with. 1493 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:12,640 So I I've called a cap on that. No, no, no, no, no. 1494 01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:16,240 As someone as someone who watches college football, it's 1495 01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:17,400 real. It's real. 1496 01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,000 He did legitimately have an ankle injury. 1497 01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,560 Well, I know he got an injury and played through it, but like 1498 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,560 he got an injury that he can't work out at the Columbine five 1499 01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:25,960 months later, that's he was unlikely. 1500 01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:30,480 Well, Jordan Tyson did it. Yeah, that's the but he missed 1501 01:13:30,480 --> 01:13:32,480 anyways. Why ever? 1502 01:13:32,480 --> 01:13:36,880 Work I, I think he's slow, but and so he's been falling. 1503 01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,680 But if he goes round four, it's, I mean, to me it's all just 1504 01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:41,400 landing spot. If you go in round four, like if 1505 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:45,760 he goes round 4 to a spot where he could like theoretically 1506 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,680 become the starter, then I think that's pretty fun. 1507 01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,600 But if you go Round 4, you know, and you're like drafted to the 1508 01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,240 Colts or something, well then it's just over. 1509 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,000 It's game over. What are what are the good 1510 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,040 spots? Seattle side for sure. 1511 01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,520 Seattle and then Washington probably #2 Minnesota. 1512 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,000 I think Minnesota maybe Minnesota's number 2 actually. 1513 01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,480 Dallas running back 2 handcuff Mahengevante. 1514 01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,040 That's not bad. Denver, I mean, that's. 1515 01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,200 Totally. I think Cincinnati is pretty 1516 01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:15,400 fun. Cincinnati, yeah, there's 1517 01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,320 there's some solid, I mean Detroit, I guess could use a 1518 01:14:18,440 --> 01:14:20,360 running back too. That's not the notion side 1519 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:21,880 Angel. Could definitely use one. 1520 01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,880 The Titans could just be totally done with the Pollard Spears 1521 01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:26,880 thing and draft one of these guys and stardom. 1522 01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:28,920 Green Bay 49ers 5. Or whatever. 1523 01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:30,760 Green Bay. Green Bay really needs a running 1524 01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:31,680 back too. That's a good that's. 1525 01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:33,000 A good one show I haven't heard anyone. 1526 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:34,560 Green Bay Niners. There's a good one. 1527 01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,680 A lot of teams have guys who are about to age out. 1528 01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:39,880 We keep waiting. Philadelphia. 1529 01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,920 Baltimore. I mean, the Giants like, yeah, 1530 01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,560 Scataboo might just be kind of injured. 1531 01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,480 So I I still wouldn't close the door on that one. 1532 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:52,200 Interesting in dynasty to play the mid running back prospects 1533 01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,960 because there is going to be a turnover in the next year or two 1534 01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:56,600 and you know if any of them is good. 1535 01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,160 Complimentary role grows from there. 1536 01:14:59,480 --> 01:15:02,800 Here's the list of fallers, Bucky Irving, Hunter Hampton 1537 01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,440 Coleman, Terry Mclaurin, Juan Jennings still without a team, 1538 01:15:06,440 --> 01:15:10,160 Keyshawn Booty, Kenyan Sadiq and Quentin Johnston. 1539 01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:16,080 Any favorites, Sam? I'm, I'm starting to like Sadiq 1540 01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:20,000 actually a little bit at 1:37. I think he's slowly been 1541 01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:21,800 falling. I do think an interesting thing 1542 01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:26,440 with him, like if you listen to a lot of sort of analytics 1543 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,320 based, you know, fantasy football podcast, like people 1544 01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:33,520 constantly hammer on him as if, as if he's like one of the worst 1545 01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,120 producing tight ends of all time. 1546 01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,760 I thought this was an interesting nugget from JJ 1547 01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,920 Zachary Sins draft guide, prospect guide. 1548 01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:45,120 Everyone should check that out. He actually has Sadiq. 1549 01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,680 You know he has this score called breakout score which is 1550 01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:52,680 like age adjusted production. Read the guy to figure out 1551 01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,520 exactly what the details are. But he actually has Sadiq as an 1552 01:15:55,560 --> 01:16:00,040 86th percentile breakout score. You combine that with the round 1553 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,800 one draft capital and like I think people are underestimating 1554 01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:06,800 because he is an early declare. I think people are like double 1555 01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:09,000 counting that against him. Like you look at just his yards 1556 01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:13,360 for route run through three seasons of of college football. 1557 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:16,680 This is from David Gautieri on Twitter. 1558 01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,840 If you just took like the first three seasons of a player's 1559 01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,880 college career, Sadiq actually has higher yards for route run 1560 01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:26,240 than Trey McBride and Tyler Warren, guys who were later 1561 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,280 deemed like analytic starlings because they had Year 4 Tyler 1562 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:30,840 Warren. Was not a fucking analytic 1563 01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:32,200 Starling. Not my analytics. 1564 01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:33,400 Tyler Warren's. Like sure, sure. 1565 01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:37,760 But I'm not saying you guys are are the ones doing this, but 1566 01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,040 some people saw Tyler Warren as an analytics darling because he 1567 01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,600 had an unreal late, late breakout, right? 1568 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:44,800 And same thing with Trey McBride. 1569 01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:48,240 I think it's fair to say he was an analytics darling at the 1570 01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:52,760 tight end position. And Sadiq, Sadiq was told by the 1571 01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,960 NFL like, hey, you're going to get drafted in the first half of 1572 01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:59,920 the NFL draft. You're, you know, if you're 1573 01:16:59,920 --> 01:17:02,200 worth that to an NFL team and he came out, I don't think we 1574 01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,960 should be like punishing his college production because of 1575 01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,320 that. So anyways, long way of saying 1576 01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,440 at like 140, I think it's getting to the point where like 1577 01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,400 shouldn't we just bet on the talent and draft capital at that 1578 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,280 point? I don't know if you're a college 1579 01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:16,000 football guy, any concerns at all. 1580 01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:17,800 He wasn't the best tight end on his team. 1581 01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,320 Is this like a Kyle Pitts getting out of these bucket 1582 01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:23,200 areas? Tony stuff. 1583 01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,560 No, this is like, this is like Kyle Pitts getting out. 1584 01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,880 Produced by another version of Kyle Pitts. 1585 01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:29,120 Did he get out? Is this true? 1586 01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:32,000 Can, in fact it's. Pretty true. 1587 01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:35,360 It's not true in the gross stats but it's it's directionally 1588 01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:39,840 accurate. So as a sophomore or or was it a 1589 01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,720 red shirt fresh whatever. His second year out of high 1590 01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:46,520 school he only ran I think it was 150 ish routes and he had 1591 01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:50,160 posted a 2.1 yards per row which is a really strong start and 1592 01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,680 that was behind Terrence Ferguson last year. 1593 01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:54,400 He runs the most routes on his team. 1594 01:17:55,320 --> 01:18:02,200 I think it was 342 routes and then OH said some of my mic's 1595 01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:03,600 inputs changed. Yeah, you are. 1596 01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,480 You are on your wrong mic. Input we can hear you, but it 1597 01:18:05,480 --> 01:18:07,520 changed. We can hear you, but it just 1598 01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:08,840 sounded softer. This fixed. 1599 01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,000 OK, I'll fix it when I finish this point. 1600 01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:17,720 So he jumps up to about 350 routes next year. 1601 01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,520 He has 1.62 yards per out run. So he gets exposed in a bigger 1602 01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,120 role. He has to do more kind of wide 1603 01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:26,160 receiver asked things and all of a sudden we get much worse 1604 01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,320 production. Jamari Johnson, who produced him 1605 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,960 2.42 to 1.62 yards per out run on fewer routes. 1606 01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,160 So he was the second most efficient tight end at AT. 1607 01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:35,360 World. OK, I see. 1608 01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:37,080 Yeah. I, I don't know. 1609 01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,280 I mean, I just again, I'm not you guys are far more in the 1610 01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:43,160 leads than prospects stuff. I just kind of like zoom out and 1611 01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,760 like trust guys like JJ sometimes like 86 percentile 1612 01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,480 breakout age for tight end go in the first half of the NFL draft. 1613 01:18:49,480 --> 01:18:52,480 We're only paying what pick 140 for him now? 1614 01:18:52,480 --> 01:18:55,400 And your guys like Isaiah Likely and like late stage Mark 1615 01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,920 Andrews, like I just think the the bet is getting tilted 1616 01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:02,960 towards upside a bit with Siddiq at at this point, but we'll see 1617 01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:06,720 where he lands. I so I take him, I take him 1618 01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:10,640 under the, you know, under the ideation that draft capital is 1619 01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:12,240 just going to be the largest answer. 1620 01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,760 Interestingly enough, when I was doing all this research with 1621 01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,520 honestly with Claude, code tight end was the only position where 1622 01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:25,160 positive correlation existed between Ras and future fantasy 1623 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:29,480 points, both in terms of top 12 seasons, top six seasons, first 1624 01:19:29,480 --> 01:19:31,880 three years, fantasy points per game, career fantasy points per 1625 01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,920 game. So coming in like Sadiq for me 1626 01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,960 would have been a guy if he was a first round pick, but it was 1627 01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,360 like he was like a good wrasse but not like a great wrasse. 1628 01:19:41,480 --> 01:19:45,440 You know, like oh, oh, another 8.99 wrasse tight end, like 1629 01:19:45,440 --> 01:19:47,880 perfectly cromulent, but not anything to write home about. 1630 01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:49,920 I probably would have been more bearish. 1631 01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,560 But when he came in with that, I mean, I believe he's literally 1632 01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:55,560 like 9 wrasse. I was like, OK, well, I'm going 1633 01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,160 to, I'm going to buy on this because some team is going to 1634 01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:01,240 take him around 1. And honestly, something that's 1635 01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,160 really different now about tight ends, we talk, Crane talks about 1636 01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,200 this all the time. Like tight ends develop weird. 1637 01:20:06,440 --> 01:20:10,600 Which is true. The way you don't from from 1638 01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:14,280 other positions is teams are so much smarter about contracts 1639 01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:15,600 now. You just can't. 1640 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:17,960 You can't really red shirt guys in the NFL anymore unless they 1641 01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:21,840 can't play. I, I think it's, I mean, I, I 1642 01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:23,640 wrote extensions about Sadiq the other day. 1643 01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:25,560 I would encourage people if they wanted to check it out. 1644 01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:27,960 I'm fine with this price in basketball now. 1645 01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,640 By the way I wasn't really taking him cuz he when it opened 1646 01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:34,000 I think he was the only even ahead of Travis Kelsey which I 1647 01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:37,320 thought was hard for me to stomach but he's now. 1648 01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:38,920 Going yeah, I would take Kelsey. I think he's. 1649 01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,880 Going behind Goddard. So I'm OK with him now cuz I 1650 01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,600 I'll take him ahead of everybody he's going ahead of now. 1651 01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:52,880 But I do think like we've had just a really rare run of 1652 01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:56,760 productive tight ends entering the NFL that is kind of skewed 1653 01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:00,280 how much maybe we should change early tight end production like 1654 01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:06,800 the Laporta, Fannin, Bowers, McBride run of players who just 1655 01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,320 came into the league Loveland with like legitimate wide 1656 01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:12,680 receiver skills and really strong yards for team pass temp 1657 01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:16,360 profiles. I think is it is just way, way, 1658 01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:19,880 way better than the caliber from a production perspective of 1659 01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,480 tight ends who are getting taken in round one in the era of like 1660 01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:25,520 OJ Howard, David and Joku Noah fan TJ Hawkinson. 1661 01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,200 Like it's just it's pretty night and day. 1662 01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,120 And so I do wonder if we kind of over index on some of the 1663 01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:34,000 athleticism stuff under indexed on some of the more production 1664 01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:37,520 wide receiver skill stuff. And so I don't know, I'm a 1665 01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,920 little bit bearish on Siddiq, but not not really at this cost. 1666 01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:44,120 I mean, he's going, he's going later than like Omar Cooper is. 1667 01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:47,360 I think right now in ADP or the very least, they're crossing 2 1668 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:51,440 ships in the night so. Even Kincaid, dare I say it was 1669 01:21:51,440 --> 01:21:54,360 this. He didn't play enough snaps, but 1670 01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:58,880 he produced for whatever it was, yards per route run and it 1671 01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:01,800 wasn't on the field enough. I mean, that's the interesting 1672 01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:03,720 thing with Sadiq is he I think has now. 1673 01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:06,800 I don't know if he can do this in his rookie season, but if if 1674 01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:10,280 we like go dynasty mode for just a second, I think he has two 1675 01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:12,880 paths to being a big hit. Is my mic better by the way now? 1676 01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:13,760 I think I should, yeah. Yeah. 1677 01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:18,200 He fixed it. OK, so he like there's kind of 1678 01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,680 two paths really to being like a legit starting tight end. 1679 01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:25,880 Like either you are good enough at blocking to play Y and then 1680 01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:28,800 you're gonna run all the routes. Or. 1681 01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,360 You have to be such a good receiver that you're essentially 1682 01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,840 replacing a receiver and you're forcing your team to play 12% 1683 01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:36,680 all the time, which is like the Brock Bowers path. 1684 01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:40,920 I think Sadiq like like Stowers is clearly path to right. 1685 01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:42,800 Like if he's not a good enough receiver, he's never playing 1686 01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:44,480 because he's never going to be blocking in line. 1687 01:22:44,480 --> 01:22:46,880 That's the Dalton Kincaid kind of archetype. 1688 01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:49,960 I think Sadiq has a more plausible path to hitting both. 1689 01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:53,280 He's just a little small at 2:41, but he's super physical. 1690 01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:57,280 If he can put on like 5 lbs, I could see him playing in line. 1691 01:22:58,440 --> 01:23:02,160 And he's raw as a road runner. And, you know, the production is 1692 01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:04,560 limited, but he's so ridiculously athletic that, you 1693 01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,480 know, you can at least talk yourself into some development 1694 01:23:07,480 --> 01:23:09,760 where he's one of the youngest prospects entering the league at 1695 01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:12,280 the position in a while. So I think there's multiple 1696 01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:13,320 paths. Long term. 1697 01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:15,640 I'm a little bit more skeptical that he just hits the ground 1698 01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:19,080 running year one as a huge producer because I, I just don't 1699 01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,280 know what the role is. But I mean, yeah, like you said, 1700 01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:24,440 we're getting a very cheap bet on him now as he's falling. 1701 01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:26,040 For sure. All right. 1702 01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:27,080 I think those are all good points. 1703 01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,040 Yeah, I would be, I would be surprised like based on his 1704 01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:32,800 profile if he's like a star as a rookie in the way that Loveland 1705 01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:37,720 Warren to some extent were, even if it was kind of limited routes 1706 01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,680 for for Loveland. But yeah, it's just it's just a 1707 01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:42,240 price thing for me. Like I think he opened at like 1708 01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:45,920 1-10 ish something like that. He's just like slowly been 1709 01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,200 creeping down more and more to a point where he's starting to 1710 01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:51,320 look attractive to me. Similarly to Bucky, for me, he 1711 01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:54,520 was a guy I wasn't even seeing in my like queue and this thing 1712 01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:56,680 opened and now I've taken him more and more. 1713 01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,120 We got to move pretty fast here to get home in time. 1714 01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,480 Any favourites for you guys among the rookie risers here? 1715 01:24:04,480 --> 01:24:06,600 Concepcion Buffalo we talk about every day. 1716 01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,000 I bet the same as in Kansas City and a few other places, 1717 01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:10,600 everybody. 'S not baby. 1718 01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:14,200 Welcome welcome everyone. Welcome to the Jaden OT. 1719 01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:17,840 If renaissance, if Jaden OT can just get drafted, it'll make my 1720 01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:19,640 day. Please, please NFL. 1721 01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:24,280 Getting drafted Speaking of Speaking of like windhorse thing 1722 01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:28,200 and and and manufactured consent, there's just really is 1723 01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,880 no reason for like why is Jay Knot's name given his final 1724 01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,480 season in Oklahoma? Why is he even like why is he 1725 01:24:34,480 --> 01:24:36,800 even being mentioned? Why are scouts even talking 1726 01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:38,760 about him like the only reason his? 1727 01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:44,640 Name is 45% of his mentions. We're doing a good job, we're 1728 01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,040 fighting, we're fighting a good fight. 1729 01:24:46,440 --> 01:24:49,880 The first I've ever. Can Davis, Maddock and I get Jay 1730 01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:53,400 not drafted? Let me let me say yes, let me 1731 01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:57,760 say on on Stribling, I I like, I do not care. 1732 01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,400 I'm out on this guy and he is fast. 1733 01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,360 He is fast, but I like he is. Stribling is the most Aryan 1734 01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,600 Smith fucking prospect of all time. 1735 01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:07,840 Yeah, he. Is I kind of was in just to the 1736 01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,920 name de Deson Stribling Deson Stribling. 1737 01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:13,120 I mean he. Was he? 1738 01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,480 Was like. He was like legitimately like 1739 01:25:15,480 --> 01:25:19,080 the wide receiver 3 for like the worst team in the Big 12 in 1740 01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,800 2024. Like you like a serious non 1741 01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,800 prospect. Is he gone Stribling? 1742 01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,280 Are there any rookies that you do like Sam, I know you're like 1743 01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:31,600 not, you know, grinding the all 22, but are there any of these 1744 01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,760 guys or anyone off the sheet that you've been clicking a lot? 1745 01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:38,520 I mean, I I have been, which is not like a unique take because 1746 01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,920 everyone says it like the second round projected wide receivers 1747 01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:46,040 that are going for free like Brazell, Brazil, I guess. 1748 01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:47,680 Sorry, Brazil. It's Brazil. 1749 01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:49,400 Jeremy, Jeremy or Jeremy Bernard? 1750 01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,840 I was like, oh, Jeremy Bernard is such a fucking Sam Sherman. 1751 01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,080 Ass pick. I heard, I heard Romeo Dobbs, 1752 01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,920 and I was like, I'm all the way. Fucking let's go. 1753 01:25:59,480 --> 01:26:02,840 Hearst got to be. One of Chris Bell, Chris Bell. 1754 01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,800 So it's interesting to me because he's like his draft 1755 01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,320 capital is probably even being discounted by the injury like as 1756 01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:12,720 like a back half bet. I do think there's probably risk 1757 01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,240 like and how Jameson Williams was basically like red shirted 1758 01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:17,000 as a rookie. You could see that with someone 1759 01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:19,160 coming up at torn ACL. But I kind of like Chris Bell, 1760 01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:24,160 the running backs I've been just I I don't know, man, it's 1761 01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:25,760 probably dumb. Like I probably should be taking 1762 01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:27,920 more chances on the rookie running backs hoping to bank the 1763 01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:31,240 Seattle thing. But like I've just been playing 1764 01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:34,680 it through Charbonnet, which is potentially, potentially dumb. 1765 01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,200 I'm not sure. But the rookie running backs 1766 01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,840 just all seems so bad from everything I've heard. 1767 01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,080 So I don't know, man. We'll see. 1768 01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:46,600 I've had such a hard time with Sharps because usually if I'm 1769 01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,320 looking at running back around where he goes, it's because I've 1770 01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:52,720 neglected it too much so far. And then I'm like, is sharps 1771 01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,680 helping me because he's not going to play for like 8 weeks 1772 01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,080 and then it's just that I end up picking someone else. 1773 01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:01,960 But I I agree that there's a plausibility that he that he 1774 01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,000 ends up being a huge hit down the stretch, especially if they 1775 01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:09,440 draft like Mike Washington, who stinks at. 32 Yeah, 1776 01:27:10,440 --> 01:27:12,840 aforementioned Sam tweets about the Jaguars. 1777 01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:15,920 We've kind of covered it pretty well, but that's here. 1778 01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:21,040 I was, I was drunk when I when I said that so. 1779 01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:26,360 Few more. Where are you at on Where are 1780 01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:27,800 you? At On Your Boy Burden this year. 1781 01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:31,920 I'm taking him, but I got to say I'm a little biased. 1782 01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,080 Yeah, I honestly. You did lend me $2,000,000. 1783 01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:38,760 Pete said this in our chat and he said you were so likely to 1784 01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:40,520 hit and run. Burden say thanks for the two 1785 01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:42,280 mil but I can't possibly justify. 1786 01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:47,720 Can I? I didn't think about, yeah, go 1787 01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:50,080 ahead. Mike, sorry, Sam, there is one 1788 01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:53,400 question I've wanted to ask you that isn't about prospects. 1789 01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:59,080 When you won, did I mean you probably over time, you know, of 1790 01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:02,360 course processed it. Did you ever think about like 1791 01:28:02,440 --> 01:28:05,880 not playing anymore? Was there a thought to all 1792 01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:10,000 right, well, I've hit and or maybe you just love it so much 1793 01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:12,960 that what happens when you win life changing money? 1794 01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,400 Do you think like that was it or do you want to just sort of 1795 01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:19,400 double down on it or what? That's a good question. 1796 01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,720 I, I didn't because I was immediately drafting an NFC 1797 01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:25,160 championship game, the big board, watching the Davis Maddox 1798 01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:28,520 stream. So I maybe did consider it for a 1799 01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,680 couple days. But no, man, I'm, I'm, I'm too 1800 01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:33,760 hooked on, I'm too hooked on fantasy. 1801 01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:37,280 I mean, it, it sounds like insane to say because I won 1802 01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:40,440 $2,000,000, but like, it's not about the money. 1803 01:28:40,440 --> 01:28:42,760 It's about the community, you know, It's about the friends you 1804 01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:46,280 make along the way. And that's what the people tried 1805 01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:49,040 to tell me about like the NFT horses. 1806 01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:51,120 I think that was actually about the money. 1807 01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:54,240 No, but it turns out, turns out it is. 1808 01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,920 Honestly, it's about the addiction and it's a great. 1809 01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:59,720 Addiction. It's about the addiction, Yeah. 1810 01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:02,640 And it helps me, helps me work out. 1811 01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:05,640 Like I do a bunch of, like, cardio club while I'm drafting, 1812 01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:08,640 like, helps me, you know, like, throw away some money while I'm 1813 01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:11,440 making myself healthier. So it all, yeah, it all comes 1814 01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:13,560 out in the wild. It's an incentive to run. 1815 01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:15,920 It helps to get you on the treadmill. 1816 01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:16,600 Sure. OK. 1817 01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:18,400 Exactly. Thanks for thanks for taking my 1818 01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:21,560 call. Are we at last call? 1819 01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:24,200 Maybe. No, not. 1820 01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:27,200 Not quite. It's hey, and it's not even 1821 01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:29,080 called that yet. You got to wait a couple in a 1822 01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,680 couple weeks. I know last call is this. 1823 01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:33,000 Is this the last week of the tip out? 1824 01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,000 Are we doing a show next week or are we just doing the draft 1825 01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:37,960 stream? I Pete's probably the person to 1826 01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,200 ask about. That I, I, I, I'm just going to 1827 01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:45,440 say I can't, I can't be, I can't be up past my bedtime 2, two 1828 01:29:45,440 --> 01:29:46,800 nights in a week. So we're just going to do the 1829 01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,440 draft stream. OK, I have AI have a board 1830 01:29:49,440 --> 01:29:52,000 meeting for the local circus actually on Tuesday, so I was 1831 01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:53,840 potentially not gonna be able to be available anyway. 1832 01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:56,760 I hope to be at an NHL playoff game. 1833 01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:57,800 That'll be. Fine. 1834 01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:01,080 Is that real? The circus part of the playoff 1835 01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:04,160 game, the Sabers making the playoffs is more like is more 1836 01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:06,400 unlikely. But yeah, I am actually on the 1837 01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,120 board of directors of the Vancouver Circus. 1838 01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:10,680 Are you? Do you perform in the circus? 1839 01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:15,120 No, no, certainly not. Not yet, but it's sort of the 1840 01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:19,200 long game, I'm sure. Or just to to get Jacob on a on 1841 01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:23,160 a unicycle at some point. Am am I stepping in for Pat 1842 01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:24,560 here? We allowing that or let's 1843 01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:26,760 please. You can you can make an honorary 1844 01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:29,840 pick, but. Only choose YEAH if you want to 1845 01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:33,160 change it. You can OK give I said that 1846 01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:36,160 without having one ready to go. So if someone has, has. 1847 01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:39,320 Well, I just realized for structural reasons I have to 1848 01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:42,800 take a wide receiver. I guess I have to take a tight 1849 01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:46,280 end if this is our last week so that I have one tight end. 1850 01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:49,840 So this is our last week I have. So I'm I'm locked in at 1851 01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:52,440 quarterback. I've got 2 running backs who are 1852 01:30:52,440 --> 01:30:55,280 technically alive. I've got Hollywood Brown who 1853 01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:58,120 just got frame mugged by Jacobs. Wider super forward on Tavian 1854 01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:01,760 Wicks huge win with Jester Gunnar helm K dot. 1855 01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:03,920 So I need a wide receiver who's on the field. 1856 01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:09,840 Wait sorry can I can I ask what is how does the scoring work for 1857 01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:11,960 this? So we're we're saying this is 1858 01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:15,520 the end, this is the end of our. Well, I think so cuz cuz we have 1859 01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:18,080 to play actual last call we. Start again. 1860 01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:21,240 So is this week 17 scoring or is it full season? 1861 01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:28,880 Scoring 1516. 161516 and 17 OK we we may have to like on our 1862 01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:32,240 first week back just rapid fire add like 3 more players each to 1863 01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:33,160 get a. Little bit full. 1864 01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:35,520 It's going to be tough. Let's let's make that a rule. 1865 01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:40,600 We we get 3 players to add on our first post draft episode. 1866 01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:42,600 Seconded. OK warm me up for your board 1867 01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:44,640 meeting. Give me the P line. 1868 01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:47,920 Oh, all right, show. Nice. 1869 01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:49,840 I like that. I like that. 1870 01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:51,800 That's good. You know what? 1871 01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:54,200 I'm going to take a guy I just like. 1872 01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:56,560 I just think he's, I just think he's neat. 1873 01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:00,600 I'm going to take Jacoby Lane as my wider Super 3. 1874 01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:04,600 Hollywood Brown, Ted Hurst and Jacoby Lane going to battle. 1875 01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:10,320 I will take I'll take a tight end and I think the NFL is going 1876 01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:14,480 to like more than the the woke spreadsheet virgin fantasy 1877 01:32:14,480 --> 01:32:16,760 community and I'll take Oscar Delp. 1878 01:32:17,480 --> 01:32:19,480 Oh, oh, I thought you were going to say. 1879 01:32:19,480 --> 01:32:20,720 I thought you were going to say Claire. 1880 01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:25,680 No, no, I I love Claire and. Hayden winks. 1881 01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:29,200 Hayden winks. God love him, him and Josh 1882 01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:32,040 great. Big fan of the show ranking 1883 01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:36,000 Oscar Delp tight end 2 in your pre draft rankings Is is fancy 1884 01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:37,400 play? Well, but no. 1885 01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:39,320 But they're doing like the real life rankings, right? 1886 01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:40,400 Like they have their hand in the dirt. 1887 01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:41,680 I don't think those are fantasy rankings. 1888 01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:43,360 Yeah, those are not fantasy rankings, I think. 1889 01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:46,960 Come on dude, he ranked the M as a Mackie tight end 5. 1890 01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:49,400 If I was, yeah. But Eli Saras is like a useless 1891 01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:50,920 player. Like he's he's a. 1892 01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:52,880 Elias, he's like a useless player. 1893 01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:55,720 Yeah, someone's drifting further right on the fucking slapses 1894 01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:58,080 right in front of my I, I. Am like, I am legitimately like 1895 01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:01,920 when it comes to real life tight end value like I'm Ronald 1896 01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:04,440 Reagan. Like I, I, I don't understand 1897 01:33:04,440 --> 01:33:07,760 like the NFL's obsession with these like twink ass tweener 1898 01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:11,560 players who can't do crazy. Get your hand in the dirt and 1899 01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:16,520 block. Yeah, Dalt using a first round 1900 01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:18,920 pick on Dalton Kincaid and the NFL Draft. 1901 01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:21,240 Was Kincaid never won the Mackie? 1902 01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:24,000 Stowers won the Mackie. The problem is Brock Bowers has 1903 01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:27,880 like, ruined tight end evaluation for a decade because 1904 01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:31,040 there will never be like another Brock Bowers, truly. 1905 01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:33,200 But there are going to be so many imitators. 1906 01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:37,400 And like, Eli Stowers is going to go at like, pick 35 and it'll 1907 01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:39,120 be like, well, you know, Brock Bowers. 1908 01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:42,200 And it's like, yeah, I know that rhymes with Stowers, but he's 1909 01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:46,760 going to be playing like 32% of the snaps by his Year 2 in the 1910 01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:50,400 NFL and doing his best Elijah Arroyo impersonation anyway. 1911 01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:54,400 I was running NFL team. I'm taking Oscar Delp, I'm 1912 01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:56,400 taking Eli Reardon. I'm taking Max. 1913 01:33:56,400 --> 01:34:00,080 Claire So I was trying to toe the line of like, what's the 1914 01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:03,680 worst player I can pick that Pat's not going to, you know, 1915 01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:05,840 remove from the team trying to toe the line there. 1916 01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:10,600 I'm going with Kendrick Bourne getting that Ty Simpson to 1917 01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:15,000 Kendrick Thorn stack 15 to 17. He's got all. 1918 01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:17,640 He's got all rookie wide receivers, Jeremy Bernard, 1919 01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:20,000 Elijah Strawberry slaves. That's cute, but you're going to 1920 01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:24,040 need some reliable production, some floor weeks, some useful 1921 01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:28,360 weeks from Kendrick Bourne. He's on the look. 1922 01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:31,120 If Jacoby Brazette can make Michael Wilson, Justin 1923 01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:32,880 Jefferson, he can make Kendrick Bourne. 1924 01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:37,320 Jordan Addison, right? Love it. 1925 01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:39,800 Oh, man, is that ever going to be embarrassing when Marvin 1926 01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:41,960 Harrison gets out. Produced by Michael Wilson and 1927 01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:42,760 Kendrick Bourne. Yeah, it's. 1928 01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:46,320 Going to be tough. It's going to be a tough. 1929 01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:48,760 Scene again. The Dynasty Rookie Mock Draft 1930 01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:52,480 show is on the channel tomorrow. Ron Stewart, Ryan Heath, Blair 1931 01:34:52,480 --> 01:34:56,960 Andrews and Sir Peter Davis. What else? 1932 01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:01,240 What do you mean? What do you have going on? 1933 01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:07,400 Well, Jacob and I probably sometime this week are gonna do 1934 01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:09,800 a second year wide receiver video. 1935 01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:11,600 We gotta gotta think about a time to do that. 1936 01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:13,760 People really liked our second year running back video. 1937 01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:16,120 I just. Got my Luther Burden jersey 1938 01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:18,120 shipped in today by the way. Go home. 1939 01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:20,520 OK, Actually, you know what? Honestly, I was doing some 1940 01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:22,920 research for a video today. I had a fun fact, and there was 1941 01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:27,000 an easier place to put it here. Luther Burden's granddad also 1942 01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:29,240 named Luther Burden. He's Luther Burden the third. 1943 01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:31,360 This is Luther Burden. The first was a New York 1944 01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:34,520 Knickerbocker in a Virginia Squire after his New York 1945 01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:37,400 Knickerbocker career got arrested for robbing a bank. 1946 01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:43,000 True story, got out of it, never served jail time. 1947 01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:47,040 So what I'm saying is you might think Luther Burden is cool. 1948 01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:50,920 Luther Burden's granddad, Luther Burden, the first potentially 1949 01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:55,240 coolest guy alive. And, and so I, I just, you know 1950 01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:56,560 what, I was just going through old clothes. 1951 01:35:56,560 --> 01:36:00,080 I found a Jeremy Lin New York Knicks jersey, which, what a 1952 01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:03,320 moment in time that was. I think I, I think I need to add 1953 01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:06,440 to my, my Knicks jersey collection and get a Luther. 1954 01:36:06,440 --> 01:36:09,960 I believe his, his granddad wore 14 for the Knicks. 1955 01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:11,640 So I think that's going to be a new purchase for me. 1956 01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:14,840 As I've told you on the stream. Related to Mike's grandfather. 1957 01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:17,240 Luther That's right, Luther Fannon my grant. 1958 01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:18,760 My late grandfather died last. Summer. 1959 01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:21,960 Really, they they played on the Virginia Squires together. 1960 01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:23,440 They they must have been friends. 1961 01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:25,320 They knew each other like are you? 1962 01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:27,560 Are you duck footed by chance? I'm not. 1963 01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:29,120 I just looked again to make. Sure. 1964 01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:32,720 But I'm not fast either. Yeah. 1965 01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:39,280 Jacob, what else? I've put all of my rookie 1966 01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:41,720 content up on thinking about thinking I dropped quarterbacks 1967 01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:44,280 today, although it's like a liberal use of S. 1968 01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:45,960 It's mostly just about Fernando Mendoza. 1969 01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:51,560 And then so you can get all those if you yourself can do the 1970 01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:53,520 math. You probably already know all of 1971 01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:55,560 my rookie tiers because I valued them all throughout. 1972 01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:58,320 But I'll post my my official linear rankings tomorrow. 1973 01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:01,960 And then I don't know, probably like relax before the NFL draft. 1974 01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:04,600 I've never been this effective at time management before and 1975 01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:06,880 had all of this out like a week before the NFL draft. 1976 01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:10,120 So I'll I'll probably just read the agenda for the circus 1977 01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:12,520 meeting. Dive into that hockey playoff 1978 01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:15,680 pool. 18 players go win it. Oh, I already submitted buddy I. 1979 01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:17,880 Got Oh, I didn't get the, I didn't get the e-mail. 1980 01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:18,800 Will you? Will you? 1981 01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:21,880 Yeah. I'm dialed in. 1982 01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:25,080 Sam, we're not blessing babies and taking down mirrors at 1983 01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:26,440 Davis's request. What else? 1984 01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:30,000 What can you tell us? Yeah, nothing, nothing really to 1985 01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:33,600 announce. I might be announcing something 1986 01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:37,560 in regards to semi regular streaming throughout the summer, 1987 01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:42,320 maybe with some other members of the ship chasing broader 1988 01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:45,120 network, but still still hammering out the details there. 1989 01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:51,840 But besides that you can find like done Wix jokes on on X 1990 01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:54,280 everything out Sherman under score FB. 1991 01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:56,680 And they say the site isn't good anymore. 1992 01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:01,760 You had like, you had the most viral tweet of maybe the entire 1993 01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:04,840 fantasy community. This with with the Kirk Cousin's 1994 01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:08,160 agent tweet that went hard. Yeah, that one reached my like 1995 01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:11,200 normie friends group chat. So that's that's when you know. 1996 01:38:11,440 --> 01:38:13,920 It's all, it's all you know. It's always good when someone 1997 01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:16,960 posts in your normie group chat your tweet getting stolen by 1998 01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:19,520 like ESPN or whatever on their Facebook page. 1999 01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:22,000 That's that's when I know I really had a hanger. 2000 01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:28,720 Yeah, like my following on on Twitter is like about 50% 2001 01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:31,720 fantasy football accounts and then 50% random political 2002 01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:33,600 accounts. And I was getting like that from 2003 01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:35,280 the political accounts, like retweeted. 2004 01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:37,840 Back to me SO. I haven't liked it because I'm 2005 01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:42,400 jealous but. It's a good sign on the Odyssey 2006 01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:44,880 app WGR in Buffalo. I'll have Chris Terpeso 2007 01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:48,240 tomorrow, Tyler Dunn on Friday, Sam Penny Ottovich, a regular 2008 01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:51,760 Friday guest from chicken dinner and a lot of hockey if you like 2009 01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:53,880 it. If you don't, doesn't change 2010 01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:56,280 anything. Thanks, Sam. 2011 01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:59,440 Great to finally meet you. Jacob Davis, everyone watching 2012 01:38:59,440 --> 01:39:00,440 and listening. I'm Mike Shope. 2013 01:39:00,440 --> 01:39:01,560 We'll see you next week. Maybe. 2014 01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:04,960 Oh, there we go.