All right, we're back for another ship chasing Main Event
mini soda where we break down our decisions when we're on the
clock. Sometimes we're not on the
clock, like the last episode where we had to record it on the
fact or after the fact. But guess what fellas?
We are literally on the clock and not only are we OTC, we are
running wire. We have 17 minutes left to make
this pick and just to prove it to the people.
I will screen share the draft applet. 17 minutes, guys.
Our team so far here, we have 7 wide receivers, a J.
Brown, CD, Lam, Debo, Samuel Deacon, Metcalf Brand and I.
You, Beyonte, Johnson, Jordan, Addison are one running back.
James Cook and we are now on the clock here and we got some
interesting decisions as far as if we want to approach this from
a running back, a tight end perspective, maybe some
quarterbacks and play. I think we all agree looking at
who's available at wide receiver.
This is not a wide receiver pick after what we've done to start
this job. It is not, no.
I'll be impressed if we can finish this in 72 minutes or
not. I'll draft for the second
straight pick. I I refuse to let that happen.
So you know we we had floated the idea of like there are some
interesting quarterback names. I still am not feeling compelled
to use one of these picks on quarterback.
You got Dak Prescott to a Kirk Daniel Jones Rogers Geno Goff
Wilson all still available. To me this feels like.
Running back, running back or running back tight end kind of a
a turn to me. Yeah, there's I would just.
Just only quarterback thing. I would note the only
quarterbacks with an 80P below 132 which is we pick at 131
would be our 11th or you know 11th round pick.
The only quarterbacks with an AP higher than that are DAC
Prescott at 113 1/2 to a ton. 120, I don't know.
I said try to say that 120 1/2 for Kirk.
So yeah, like those three are even that much more appealing
than the other guys. I think we just.
Push We do have stacks on DAC and Kirk.
If for some reason either of them fell, we might be able to
get a discount. We also have a stack potential
on Gino. And then double stack potential
on pretty even late. I mean like we have options at
quarterback. I think when you look at our
receivers, we obviously don't. Have to Dingle Jones might run a
little bit like the only guy I manage.
You want to stack with his Waller, and it's fine to do
without. So I I think we have plenty of
options. Plus, there's later guys, too.
So if we rule out wide receiver, we rule out quarterback.
We can start to hone in on tight end and.
Running back, the two names that jump out to me at Titan and I
feel comfortable talking about these guys because I don't think
they're going to come all the way back around to us in the
11th would be Dalton Schultz and Greg Dolchich.
And then running backs here, you know Charbonnay, Brian Robinson
and Cleel Herbert are the three at the top of the queue.
I am interested in all of those guys to certain degrees.
Is there any other names? That you guys would float.
That you don't think would be available to us when we pick?
It, you know, that's. That would be interesting here.
That's the really tricky part. I think we're not really.
We're in a spot here where for me this is the start of a new
running back tier that if you look at the last round, the guys
that just went off the port, Rashad Penny was the last
running back. I think I've made my love for
him pretty clear. Devon A chain AJ Dylan Somaj, P
Ryan Isaiah Pacheco even went in this ninth round at the front of
it. Those are the running backs that
have gone in this round. Antonio Gibson was the last one
in the eighth, so that's the tier that like I love to hit.
We didn't get a chance to hit that.
The guy that in this group that has kind of fallen a little bit
in AVP on all formats, but I think fits in that tier actually
is Damien Harris. I've been pretty high on him as
well, but we already. Took, so he's the.
Guy that I like the most here. And then I honestly, I think the
next one, if I was just ranking purely might be Jalen Warren
who's way down there. His Adp's 127 as Patrick
mentioned, We get on the clock again at 132, right?
131, but it's worth taking. Here.
Yeah, and I. I like Warren a lot, but I
don't. I mean, I think it's a little
unfair to Brian Robinson to say he's not in the same tier as
Antonio Gibson, given that he might be the starter over
Gibson. So, but I don't really feel like
pounding the table for Brian Robinson either in this managed
league PPR format like I take a lot of him in best ball.
I don't think he's particularly excited.
The Commanders don't have a good offensive line.
He's going to be more of A2 down guy.
That's the big issue for me in the difference in tiers. 205
carries, 12 targets. Yeah, really.
Trapped. And that's probably not going to
change a ton. Yeah, I think Charbonne's kind
of interesting, but, you know, it's tough to want to take him
right here given that he has an injury that's going to keep him
out indefinitely. The guy I'm probably like would
be saddest to lose on this turn would be Dolcich.
It's it's the guy where like, if I can envision someone being
like, thank God we took this guy right?
You get Sean Payton, he certainly knows how to use a
field stretching tight ends. Some what Dulcich said last year
is impressive. Some wasn't that impressive.
It was a bit of a hit or miss rookie campaign.
But, you know, he wasn't bad in a lot of stuff that I look at.
And you know, he had that high a dot that we were looking for,
which is nice. He got targeted at decent rate.
And you know, Tim Patrick going out could help him a little bit
as like a red zone presence. And I think compared to a guy
like Schultz, you know, he doesn't have a rookie
quarterback. He's got a quarterback who has a
theoretical centering. Well, he could be.
Yeah, I mean, that's the thing with us.
It's a bit of a range of outcomes.
It's a wider range of outcomes, but I like that you know that we
do. I think we get access to a
little more ceiling with all such compared to Schultz, but
you're probably taking on more risk cuz Russ might be washed.
Pete, you like Charbonnay, right?
As we kind of did a little bit of chatting and I was coming
around to that. So this is interesting.
Pat, So do you have a case for Charbonnay?
Do I or do Pete? No, Pete, I was asking Pete.
Oh, sorry. So here's my thing.
I agree with Pat that Dulcic of all these guys is the guy I
least want to miss out on, which has me leaning to prioritize
that and then seeing what the room give us that running back.
The reason I am not just saying let's windmill it in on
Charbonnay is just knowing that drafters are very spooked right
now and that cheap prices could potentially be coming on him.
He also I think even without this injury tag is probably not
a fast start running back right. He is a late season play like
that's why you're drafting Charbonnay, because we know if
Walker goes down like. He's going to be a league
winning running back at this at this pick.
And so to me, like if we are trying to look for a little bit
more fast start production at running back, the guy I'm kind
of gravitating to a little bit as Khalil Herbert.
I think he pairs like pretty nicely with the James Cook as
far as this like true punt 0RV build where we could get shut
out on a lot of other targets by the time we come back around.
So it has me like weighing the pros and cons of like.
Really massive late season upside versus making sure we
don't get buried early, but then that has me coming back to do we
take the tight end here and then see what the room gives us with
these running backs? Do you guys have you guys, you
guys both are more plugged into news than I am?
Have you guys heard much about the Bears order of running backs
early in camp at all? It's Herbert and Foreman with
the Ones and Rochon's nursing and Injury, which I think it's
more of a recent development, but but it would.
Going in, They like Rochon from everything I've heard, but it
was still Herbert in Foreman splitting reps with the ones.
And we know it's going to be a committee, but both guys are
very efficient rushers and there's going to be plenty of
rushing attempts and it's. Going to be an efficient rushing
attack because you have to count on Justin Fields design runs.
Exactly. Period.
So I mean, I I like Herbert plenty.
I don't love him but like, like I guess if we got Dulce and then
one of Charbonnay Herbert and to me Brian Robinson, but.
You know, we could, we could have that.
If that's sort of worst case scenario, probably because I
don't love Robinson, but I'm fine.
I'm personally very fine with that.
Also, if we just want to do a teeny bit of profiling for the
guy on the turn, he was a little hard to read early on.
He has committed to wide receiver here after getting 2
running backs in a tight end early.
He's gone Mike Williams, Mike Evans, Brandon Cooks, Michael
Thomas. I think he could certainly be in
the mix for a running back here. I guess it wouldn't shock me to
see him do another tight end just because drafters like
taking tight ends. I would guess he's he's
definitely live to take a running back with one of these
two picks. If you want to be surprised if
you want to profile him, I you look at the Chubb and mix and
picks you look at Evans Cooks Thomas Waller, it's a lot of
guys that have that are sort of veterans.
He I think he's not comfortable or he's fully comfortable thing
guys, it might be a little bit over the hill kind of yeah.
Do you think he's gonna. Look past Dalton Schultz and go
three names down to Greg Dulcic. Not he's going tight end, he's
going Schultz. I feel like he profiles.
The issue is that if we were to go Charbonnay, for example, and
then he went Herbert Dulcic, I'd be, I guess we'd go Schultz, but
I'd be pretty devastated. So I don't know.
I mean, he does not look like a guy who's clicking on Zach
Charbonnay with a Q tag next to his name, who's a rookie that I
feel pretty confident profiling him.
I think if he takes a running back, his most likely is
honestly probably Brian Robinson, just if we are trying
to profile. I think he's a Schultz Robinson
drafter. Yeah, that would be fine by me.
I hope he's, I hope he goes right.
So I. I I think I would probably still
take Schultz over Dolcech but I think they're very close and I'm
definitely comfortable leaning towards that with you guys sort
of to break the the tight end decision to me.
I I think the Herbert case was pretty strong too.
I'm I'm pretty undecided this is not a a a bunch of targets that
I like. I'm I'm very comfortable if you
guys have strong leans. I I we had a really loose
conversation earlier, Pete, and you mentioned Charbonne and I
kind of said that I I've been kind of out on him.
But I thought about him a little bit in the like as we were
setting the time for this recording, thought about him in
the time up until now and came around to it a little bit.
I mean, he has a good three down profile.
We know he catches passes. What is his injury though?
The injury sucks for sure. But in terms of Pete was saying
one of the one of the benefits you mentioned in the chat Pete
was we'll know when we want to start him or we will know not to
Basically. Like the idea is he's, you know
sort of a handcuffed that. Could have some really strong
upside and and build some ceiling into A0RB room that
frankly will need it. One of the issues with Herbert
might be that we might actually like taking Deontay Forman
later. We're running into that with
James Cook and and Damien Harris right now or Rochon right.
And so you you already make your decision on the Chicago
backfield the most expensive. So I think my ideal now talk
like listening to your guys's hype about Dolsic is is Dolsic
Charbonne. But I think you're probably
right that they probably doesn't take him on the turn.
Yeah, just to read that, here's the quote from Carol about
Charbonne. It's a shoulder, it says said
The team isn't sure how he hurt his shoulder and we'll need to
determine how long he'll miss, Carol said.
It's just kind of crept up on him, really.
He didn't get hit or anything like that.
Just all of a sudden he started to feel something.
So we're just checking him out and being really cautious right
now. So that could either be
extremely minor or, like very bad.
Pete can't. Like, right?
I know you can't even. It's almost like reading trust.
Is like. Like none of that.
That could have been anything. That could have meant anything.
In my thing, one thing I will just say like macro, that has
been kind of a theme for us I think in these drafts, in this
first draft is we haven't. Really approached it as like,
this is our only draft. Let's like go get our guys and
like we've been pretty conscious of we're going to have better
spots to get Kyle Pitts at a DP. We're going to have better spots
on the certain sides of the draft board and in certain rooms
to get those guys to me. I do wonder like are there going
to be better spots to get Charbonne?
And I'm not even ruling him out at 10:02.
I still like him there. But it does make me think,
should we get Doltage here? It seems like that's the like
the one guy we don't want to miss out on the most.
And then, you know, we could have the Charbonne verse Herbert
conversation. Sounds like you guys are in
agreement on that. I'm definitely not going to like
be the. I mean I would I would still be
outvoted but I'm not going to I'm not going to be the the
Vetoer. I'm not going to do a Pat Evan
Ingram how you going to. Do a PAT.
Just to clarify, if you were just drafting here completely by
yourself, it sounds like you would select Schultz or who
would you take? That's a really good question.
I don't like the decision here and I don't have a clean answer.
And I've basically been like planning to lean on you guys.
I like. Dulcage a lot here.
I think he's kind of similar to the Friarmuth bet in a lot of
ways that we were kind of like bummed to miss out on, where we
do have a guy who could legitimately have a top five,
top six season at the position in this format.
Yeah, after talking through it, I think.
You know if I could make that decision right now, I think I
would be dosage again. A big reason why I came around
Charbonne today as well was I didn't feel like I had a good
alternative like we that's that's one of the things Pete.
You do a good job of refocusing me.
Sometimes when I'm like out on a player you're like well what's
the other what? You know who's the other player
we're gonna take. Like when we when we're doing
32nd clock sign underdog and often I'm like I don't really
have anything. I'm just arguing against the guy
like I don't really have a good alternative.
I just don't like the pick. I kind of feel that way about.
Everything on our board, I would want to take Damon Harris, but I
wouldn't take him because of James.
Bright. Right.
Yeah. So I don't really have a strong
answer to that question. All right.
You guys down to do Dolchic? Let's do it.
I am. He comes with a little bit of
risk, but I do. I agree.
I think he's not that different from the fryer moves Bet.
It's a breakout tight end bet. Honestly, the offense could be a
lot more fun if things break our way.
Could all, I think. Disaster again.
It also alleviate and it's kind of pat used the word.
Layering these guys in the running backs, tight ends,
quarterbacks. It does alleviate just a teeny
bit of pressure of like a running back, running back pick
for us here to where like if there's a big run on tight ends
and we start to be like, man, we're in like true punt
territory here. Like I like that with James Cook
and Greg Dolcich. If you squint.
You can see like really high end outcomes for these guys as
opposed to just getting some volume, just filling a
positional need like I I can squint and see like really
massive breakout seasons for these guys.
For sure. And then like we have some wide
receiver production, I'm I think, I think we, I think we
found some, we took seven steps at it.
I hope so. Yeah, so we.
Let me go back. I'll I'll recap this team here
for everyone that we're joking about our wide receiver
production because we have 7 through 9 rounds, a J.
Brown, CD, Lam, Devo, Samuel, DK Metcap, Brandon and I you,
Deonte Johnson, Jordan Addison. And then we got our first
running back, James Cook in the 7th and then our first tight end
Greg Dolchich here in the night. So it does seem like our
decision here. I mean, would you guys consider
Schultz if he comes back or do you think, I think structurally
Herbert or Charbonne still make the most sense for us?
I was floating the idea of a tight end double tap here.
I do think Schultz and and Dolcech kind of are an
interesting duo in the sense of you guys are talking about how
Dolcech comes with some risk but has some breakout scenarios, and
I do agree with that sort of take on him.
I could see scenarios where he's kind of unplayable.
Schultz to me is going to get plenty of routes and and he'd at
least be like a floor tight end play and tight end premium.
Not really that exciting breakout scenarios.
So you're like, OK, if Dole Stitch really hits, you're
playing him. If not, you know, at least you
have a tight end to play. But I think I'm with you.
We pushed running back long enough.
It's a really true 0RV build. I mean, we took our first
running back on the 7th, but it's 711.
I mean, we took and and now we're here.
You know, we're going to be in the 10th before we take our RV
too. You, you get to a place where
there's not a lot of running backs left.
I mean, we're going to have a hard time.
We can still build it out, but we're going to have a hard time
getting. A lot of early season points.
I think prioritizing that might be the move.
We could end up in a situation because people don't stop.
This is the thing we always have to like remind ourselves when we
go back to to FFPC. It's that the the people do not
stop like this guy or the one hole is not done taking running
backs. He's going to go back to the
running back position later and so the, you know like the 6th
hole, right, He's taken 4 already, he probably take some
more so. We're going to end up seeing the
next tier go pretty quickly. The next tier after that go
pretty quickly and all of a sudden we're down to like true,
true scratch off guys. You know the CEH tier where it's
like I don't even know or we maybe throw in like a pier
strong type of type of situation so I could.
Actually saw that between our last two picks, where we were
debating Connor and Dalvin Cook as followers who are sort of a
tier up from the Gibson. P Ryan, AJ, Dylan Tier, But that
whole tier got wiped along. Connor and Dalvin Cook went in
the three pics right after us, and that whole tier I mentioned
at the top of this mini sod all went as well.
Six more running backs ago? Yep, you just blow through a
whole tier between when you're on the turn.
We weren't even really thinking about reaching on the Gibson or.
Or Rashad Penny's, but we didn't get a chance to drop them the
next time around either, so. One, one other point I want to
make about Dolchich too is I legitimately think he's going to
be a riser. Post this Tim Patrick news, I
don't think it's fully taken yet, but I do really think
Marvin Mims and Dolchich are going to be the guys that end up
moving up the most relative to their current ADP's.
And I I think even in the Titan Premium format, like it would
not shock me if Dolchich ends up, you know, much closer like
the new Joku and Ingram as people.
Kind of convince themselves on him being like one of the
biggest beneficiaries. I mean, you really remove the
other main what big bodied red zone guy?
I mean, like, Sutton is a big dude, but they've like never
used him as like scheming fades for him around the red zone and
stuff like Dolcich I think could have like a really locked in red
Zone role. I think that's a good point.
Yeah, I mean. Got caught as well.
So yeah, opened opened up a lot of routes there.
In the early offseason, I viewed him pretty similarly to Fry move
like I had Fry move ahead, but I was like pretty interested in
Dolcich in that range. And then John Payton didn't
appear to know who he was, but his since learned who he was
said a bunch of positive things. Recently roasted Nathaniel
Hackett, I think partly because he was like, I couldn't even
like. Get a sense of, like, who this
Greg Dulcich kid was. I thought that quote was bullish
for Dulcich. He's like.
The offense was so bad I didn't even know how he was using these
guys. Yes, I think that's great for
Dulcich. Like, yeah, so now I'm and then
with the Patrick injury, like I'm starting to feel like he is,
he belongs with this previous tier of tight ends.
Like he's kind of the last of that tier.
Maybe you could say Schultz is in that tier too.
But you know, I like getting him here and I think he gives us, he
gives us access to a ceiling. That I really shouldn't have
access to at this price. Right.
I agree with that. The the point you guys both made
that really bought sold me on it is the ceiling outcome.
I talked a little bit about shelf being more before play and
then just for this build I I don't think, I mean there's no
way we would play both tight ends.
We're never flexing a tight end. We took seven.
Right. That's the other thing.
Yeah. So I mean, at this point, RB 2
fills a starting spot and there's something to be said
about. We need to start scratching off
starting spots, right? Yeah, like the most sensible way
to play this is probably grab an RB 2, probably double tap RB on
the next turn, you know, and then maybe try to layer in some
tight some tight end dark throws and.
There's routes that we had back there, yeah, yeah.
If dosage fails, we're gonna need to find a replacement for
them. And so we can take some priority
stabs at that. But the Schultz profile is what
I mean. The routes like high routes
profile. There are routes like like
Hunter. Henry is the first one that
comes to mind. Yeah, Hunter, we're gonna get.
Accomplished the same thing, Yeah.
Yeah, I think so. Yeah so let's just just because
we probably won't do well we definitely won't do another mini
sod when we're on the clock at 10 to.
So let's we got a few more minutes to kind of like hash out
the Charbonnay verse Herbert. It sounds like if one of those
guys goes, we feel pretty good about taking the other if both
are available. They are very different picks in
my mind as far as kind of like what they offer, where as much
as I like Herbert, as much as I think he gets off to a fast
start, I do think you could see Rochon really starting to chip
away at his playing time down the stretch.
That said, you can make the case like let's just get some early
season running back production, make sure we get to use all this
wide receiver firepower and we'll we'll piece it together as
we go. Does Herbert belong this far
ahead of Deonte Foreman? Not Rochon, but specifically
Foreman. It's a question I've thought
about for most of the offseason, and now that they're splitting
first team reps, like, shouldn't they be pretty close in ADP?
I mean, it's a good, it's honestly a really good question.
Foreman's been so efficient. He was great.
Last year's really good. The year before.
Herbert's been awesome, too. But I don't know.
I mean, for me, I was like, well, Herbert I know is going to
have a role. So I'm.
I'm happy to take him, even though I have to pay up.
But yeah, Foreman looks like he's gonna have a roll now too.
I guess that you'd probably like Rochon would be more likely to
displace Foreman of the two, but that's probably decided out on
the field, you know? So, yeah, yeah, it's, it is a
little bit of A at this point, it's probably too much of A
premium, yeah. Yeah, it's and it's tough with
the because like I said, with this Charbonnay stuff, right?
Like it could, it could swing wildly.
So for the Charbonnay injury is I think much worse from an ADP
perspective. And if all the were completely
good to go, you know, like, hey, there's no issue he's back at
practice. Like I don't even think he moves
up a ton, right. Like he's still like he's going
to go where a chain and a J Lynn and Penny just went here, you
know. And so that's where I'm kind of
wondering. As much as I like him, I again
just from like the portfolio, the ADP, the market perspective,
it's just like you could get really bad closing line value on
him and not get that big of a win even if everything is OK.
That's a good point too. Yeah, it does feel like more
downside than upside as far as the injury stuff goes.
But I mean, I also really do like him as a selection.
I do too, if he's healthy. Can I?
Talk you guys into reaching on Jalen Warren by like 15 picks of
ADP, cuz I feel like we have some concerns about Herbert and
Charbonnay. Yeah, you could.
You could talk me into it. Yeah, you could.
You could 100% talk me into it. He's not coming back.
I wanna hear the argument. But yeah, but just know I'm.
Listening just to and again. Not that this is the end all be
all but like. Warren goes in the same running
back tier range as Herbert in underdog.
Charbonnay goes in a tier ahead of him, or at least he did
before his injury. But now you could argue that
Charbonnay sliding back and these guys are all in a very
similar tight ADP range. I don't think it's crazy.
I think I prefer prefer those other guys.
But he's he's definitely in the mix.
Doesn't Warren kind of have to finish ahead of like McKinnon
and Jamal Williams or is that not going to happen on on FFPC?
Does that not happen in? Underdog, I would finish ahead.
In terms of ADP, I guess Warren goes after him on underdog.
Yeah he's in that mix. I I take Warren ahead of Jamal
Williams a fair amount but he but I think he's behind in ADP.
But I could see that flipping very quickly because I think
Miller's coming for for Williams in ADP and in real life.
The case on Warren if if there's like you know, a case to
actually be made, just, I mean he has.
Size he's 58215. He's a big big cube for 5/8.
Maybe people know that now cuz I feel like everyone says it cuz
people didn't know it. But I think it's worth
reiterating Warren is not small. He's not small.
He's like Austin Eckler. Reminiscent, at least.
I mean, not the not the same athlete Austin Eckler was.
You know, a total workout warrior.
But then last year, 4.9 yards per attempt certainly.
Got the advantage of running against lighter boxes than Nachi
Harris because he's, you know, more of a passing down back.
But also 33 targets, 28 catches efficient in the passing game,
6.5 yards per target is above average for a running back, I'm
sure as yards per outrun were solid.
I don't have that in front of me, but Pat, maybe you do.
He would pull it up, but he was. He was more than two yards per
target, better than Nachi Harris in the passing game, which I
don't think you can make as much of A.
You know, third down back I I think does it is still an
efficiency boost as well because you you get some of those
underneath throws on like third and 12.
But anyway, yeah, 1.24 is a very solid number.
And the other thing about him is receivers that he was running
back 6IN open score and he was rated #2 in the overall receiver
ratings using the player tracking data, ESPNS metrics.
So Chris McCaffrey was was #1 and then he, Warren was tied
with Austin Eckler for #2 in their receiver ratings.
Which I mean you know, it's nice to see when if the bet is this
guy's going to establish himself through talent because the guy
ahead of him is not good and it's now the third year of his
career and the team is going to be open to the fact that he's
not good. You really do want to see the
guy you're betting on, Flash. Some efficiency and impressive
stuff. Yeah, and he already, he clearly
did. And then the other thing I was
thinking as I was like, can I talk you guys into it is just
looking that we do have Deonta. I know I talked you guys into
that pic too, but now I want to leverage it for this pic.
But basically, you're already kind of telling yourself the
story that the Steelers passing game is decent, That Kenny
Peckett is throwing a lot, dropping back a lot.
Naji Harris injury I think is a very correlated thing for both
Beyoncé and Jalen Warren's upside or Naji Harris being so
bad that the team kind of moves away from making him a focus.
If Naji Harris is good this year and they run the ball a lot and
they become more of a run heavy offense, that's obviously bad
for Deonte, it's bad for Jalen Warren.
But it is, yeah. There's there's some correlation
there, I think. Well, I mean the thing.
The thing that's nice about Warren, and I do think you could
argue Charbonnay offers this too, although he's injured right
now, is that you have 3 outs to hitting, right?
You have. Well actually this is where I
would say Warren actually has an easier out because Jalen Warren
has the he could just outplay the incumbent and earn that job
outright. I think it's be very hard for
Charbonnay to just fully displace what what Walker does
as a riser. I like Charbonnay more as a best
ball pick because part of it is I think he's going to get, I
mean they've talked about him getting work in the two and four
minute offenses. I was just looking at Adam
Levitan said they still have Charbonne projectors as a Week
1A start. You know, not start but playing
being active for Week 1 even with the shoulder injury and was
noting that the role for him looks to be in kind of the two
and four minute offense. And I think the goal line role
you're you're hoping Charbonnay is taking over, but I don't
know. You're hoping he racks up some
catches in some hard to predict past heavy scripts, you know,
and potentially in while trailing with not that much time
left. It's not super predictable week
to week. And then you know he gets in the
end zone, which to me just seems like a little bit easier to have
on a best ball roster where Warren, I mean, the chances that
he actually just displaces nausea, you're probably not
great, but they're not zero. I mean, it probably takes nausea
being banged up and then Warren looking awesome and then, you
know, maybe it's a little polity where he never like fully
displaced. Somebody gets enough work to
matter. And I think we could feel better
about putting Warren in our lineup like I can.
I think I can imagine that pretty easily.
Yeah, I'm. I'm certainly on board with
that. I I think he's definitely firmly
in the conversation with these guys.
It's a bummer that we're drafting when Charbonne has this
kind of injury risk looming because I think without it, I
think he is kind of your pick here.
But without it I I don't think it's clear.
Right, I agree. Where does Foreman go in this?
Quite a bit later, it looks like by ADP.
That's part of my Herbert thing again.
It's like, I feel like we can make that bet later because 158.
Yeah, that's. I mean that's.
Actually, the turn after That's the 1314 thirteenth, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Somehow he felt all the way there.
He might not, but if somehow he did, you'd feel like a snap pick
that you wouldn't want to make, cuz you'd already have heard.
But we might have taken both at that point, you know.
Yeah, yeah. And I do think, like what we do,
expect Warren to have some standalone value out of the
gate, right, that he might be able to catch a few balls, pick
up 20-30 yards rushing, even if Nagi's getting, you know, 15
plus touches. I do.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't think it's going to be great,
but he, you know who he kind of might be, he might be Khalil
Herbert from last year with a little bit more receiving
ability you. Know, but I think it would be a
guy that we can start right and we're not taking zeros but that
also then offers the contingent upside and the chance to assert
the guy in front of him. That's a nice profile to have at
this this range. Right.
When we Fast forward to you know September 9th or whatever the
date is, we're going to feel a hell of a lot better putting
Herbert in our lineup than Jalen Warren.
I feel pretty confident about that.
It provided that not as healthy. Like it's easy to say like oh
he'll have some standalone but we're going to feel like, Jesus
are we really starting Jalen Warren.
So I don't want to oversell that that part of it in week one.
We're not going to feel like he has much standalone value, but
maybe he earns that over time. Do you?
Think that you would feel better about Herbert than deontay
formant in week 1. If you do, then let's take
Herbert. In week one I would Okay.
In week one I would. But I could see by Week 3 being
like, oh, I won. Just because he's the incumbent
and he's better in the offense? Exactly.
I know he knows the offense. I know he's a Fisher in the
offense. I know they think he's good.
Maybe. I don't think he's great, but.
And Warren does go 127 like he might make it back to 132.
I kind of doubt it, but it's possible.
I. Suppose I really doubt it.
I doubt it. Yeah, I doubt it too.
Yeah, there's some. There's some pretty running back
heavy drafters in this room. I'm I'm very much on on board
with the with the he gives us a very compelling third option
beyond Charbonnay Herbert and because I mean Brian Robinson
would be the guy where you're like well we know we're getting
some touches but like I don't know man.
Yeah, he's so boring. He's very boring.
Yeah, OK, cool. I got to wrap this up.
But I do think this tear is just flat enough.
And really, the big hope is that like another one of these guys.
You know looking at the top of the queue, these top 12 to 15
guys comes back right? Like that's that's kind of the
hope is that we get to grab a few guys from this tier and
right now we're just basically having to take our preferred guy
of these. Just looking at this, sorry, but
just just looking at it like who is the best running back on
this? Like when you look at this list,
who can you say is the best running back on their team?
Jalen Warren. Jalen Warren's like the only guy
on the list where I'd be like he, I think pretty clearly the
best run back on his team. It's like really the only one.
I mean Khalil Herbert probably, but it's not certain so clear.
Yeah, That's it. Yeah, Yep.
I Dudes. Another mini sewed in the book,
Here we do get our first tight end Greg Dolcech.
Looks like we are dialing up Jalen Warren here in the tenth
round after a fun winding conversation.
And we'll see what comes back to us here at 10:02 and next time
we talk to you guys will be on the clock in the 11th round.
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