Hi there, I'm Mike Schop. Welcome to Sunny Buffalo and ADP
chasing on this Tuesday, March 18th, 2025, the day after Saint
Patrick's Day. This will hit risers and fallers
in ADP. Cincinnati did the thing and
then some free agents still on the market, Pro days, Ted
McMillan yesterday. But most exciting of all, we
welcome a new hero to our cast. In Underdog Best Ball, ADP is
set by two separate yet equally important groups.
Streamers that set the market and the slappies that chase it.
These are their stories. I mean, frankly that Zach, Zach
is a great and creative man. I mean, I think that I think
that might be his best work. Zach Lennars put some respect on
the man's. That's it.
You even. You even said it right.
Very good. Very good.
Jacob Sanderson, welcome to the team.
Happy part of the team man this is great. 7:00 AM West Coast
time. Pumped to be joining you guys.
You know. You got to have a clip so good
that we're welcoming Jacob on, and our first reaction is about
the clip in Zack and Me Fair. Non derogatory.
That's fair. Non derogatory.
That's fair. We know Pat's definitely on
board here, to say the least. Also starting at the 7:00 AM
Tuesday slot. Thanks Pat for shaking.
Combinations, of course. No, that really speaks for
itself, doesn't it? The this this is the Cobra I'm
drinking This, this is straight, Jeff.
This is half water. This is half water right here.
I put water into this and it just never changed color.
Never changed color all. Right.
This actually. This actually works out well
though, Corrine, because you basically haven't been sleeping
anyways as you attempt to sleep train.
Yes, I'm disclosed members of your household.
So actually. It's the baby.
Our name is Vivian. It's just kind of, it's kind of.
Awful respect on the name. It's a respect on the name.
Respect on Vivian's name. Yeah, we're locked in.
We're locked in at at 9:00 AM Central Time.
I took a road trip to Long Island from Western New York a
couple of summers ago for my son's lacrosse.
You know, career as it is at this point, it's how it feels
driving everywhere and listen to the three of you guys for hours.
I remember being stuck on the on on a bridge in the Bronx and
just, you know, like, are we ever going to get such a long
drive? And then you get to New York and
it's traffic. But I had you guys keep me
company. And so I've always been a Jacob
fan as well as you guys, as you know, our heroes, Patton Davis
and Jacob as we go forward here on ADP chasing very exciting.
I also tried to like basically impress Jacob last night with
like, oh, I know this guy and this guy.
And like, let me see if I can get Ron McClain on the show and
let me see if I can get Dave Hodge and these other people,
you know, Canadian legends and broadcasting didn't didn't quite
get there, you know, by today, Jacob, But you know, going
forward, hopefully. I mean, we need Peter Mansbridge
up in this House. It's true.
Truly, Truly would be an honor. Thank you, Mike.
You're all. Eventually it's going to turn
into puck chasing. Eventually.
It'll be we'll be doing puck chasing.
I don't think I'll be waking up at 7:00 AM for.
That never chase the puck. Go where it's already where it's
going or something. Game game where the puck is
already going the. Puck's going to the to my bed, I
think. Well, as it is somewhat of a new
day for ADP chasing here here we have T Higgins.
I don't know wasn't wasn't my idea, but a a previous legend in
ADP chasing lore with with Sam and all the T Higgins fun over
the years. But he gets that contract in
Cincinnati with Jamar Chase at the same time we were talking
yesterday in Buffalo. I I think how exciting and
almost amazing Jacob that would be for a Bengals fan.
It doesn't have to be it doesn't have to work out great.
But here I have a team that I root for that kind of like never
does that. I've got guys who've I've gone
to the Super Bowl with and for forever I've kind of been
feeling like this always gets away from me, that these guys
are my favorite guys. My best guys are going to leave
anyway, but in this case it doesn't happen.
I mean, I think it's a good call, not just from a fanservice
perspective, but I think it's the right football move.
Like, I'm not saying that it will work out because it's hard
to construct a Super Bowl winning roster.
And I think that the Bengals are in bad shape in a lot of ways,
but T again, is a super valuable player.
You're you're never going to be able to sign AT Higginson free
agency. So to me, the idea of like they
should have converted that money into other positions is a bit of
a false choice. I think like what you can
actually do is not go get the T Higgins equivalent on the
defensive line or a corner or the offensive line.
You can sign 2 average starters for T Higgins money at any of
those positions, but you're not getting AT Higgins caliber
player of those positions. So to me, you have a 26 year old
stud that plays an important position, you lock them up, and
then you just have to backfill the rest of your roster through
the draft in a way that you would need to anyway.
So you have to get creative restructuring contracts to build
a cap around them anyways. But that to me is like the table
stakes. Regardless, you don't actually
get better by jettisoning 26 year old really good players in
important positions. Yeah, it's kind of interesting
because some of the reaction heading into the like should
they should they sign both? It's like, well, the teams don't
really do this. You you get your quarterback,
you get the number one receiver and then like the next contract
really should be an edge rusher. They also they do have an edge
rusher. So I think you could maybe
critique that they prioritized him over Hendrickson, but it's
like. But the defense, the defense is
going to be bad anyways. And frankly, I mean, I always
have to be the lone dissenting Joe Burrow person because no one
else has the strength of characters to put their name,
put the name on these takes. I mean, I don't know if you want
to go through the experience of sticking Joe Burrow out there
with one good player and a bunch of Jamoks.
Like I don't know if you want your 17 week plan to be Andre
Yoshi, Vas, Mike Gesicki, Trenton Irwin and Jamar Chase.
Well, I mean, I don't think that's necessarily that harsh on
Burrow. He's a pocket passer.
So you know 2 awesome weapons is going to elevate you beyond just
one. And if you have two awesome
weapons, he's awesome. So you know that leaving the
Hendrickson stuff aside, like I think it does make a lot of
sense to bring them back and build around the best part of
your team. Like the Bengals are built
around Joe Burrow in the offense and now they have T Higgins and
Jamar Chase locked up now. I mean the the dumbest thing is
that they waited so long to do it and paid more money than they
had to. I saw I, and I'm not going to
credit this correctly, but I did see someone do this tweet and
literally might have even been Jacobs.
Someone do the tweet yesterday of like how much money the
Bengals cost themselves by not doing these extensions when they
were first possible. And they basically cost
themselves 2 average starters, probably maybe 1 1/2.
You know, about about like about $30 million against, against the
cap cumulatively. So, you know, and it's why did
they do this? I mean, I think we all know
this. They're cash poor.
They hate to sign these contracts unless they absolutely
frankly, the Bengals were probably hoping T Higgins got
banged up considerably this year, like actually hurt his
hamstring and was willing to take like a sweetheart deal or
something. That is probably in their heart
of hearts what they were hoping. Tough seat.
Yeah, no, I think you're right. I think you're right because, I
mean, they basically just procrastinated until they got
forced into the obvious. Like they this is a really easy
1 to get out in front of. Like you draft Chase was awesome
right away. Like you should, you should have
been planning for that contract the second it became available.
And you know, he's, he literally went to school with Burrow where
they were amazing together like this.
None of this should have been surprising.
T Higgins. That makes it so hard to defend
the Bengals, right, because it's like, I think they did the right
thing, but they did it in the dumbest way.
And I don't expect them to do smart things going forward.
They're like back up my stance that they did the right thing.
It's not like like I don't want to be backing myself into a
corner where I'm like, the Bengals are going to win the
Super Bowl. It's like, no, I think they're
still the Bengals, but I think they got this one right.
T Higgins. The third highest paid wide
receiver in the NFL. Had they got this deal done
before, he could probably be like the 11th highest paid wide
receiver in the NFL had they done it.
What was his first time in the. Game, I mean, the reporting is
he would have accepted the contract that Michael Pittman
got like over a year ago. They were.
They were drafted back-to-back picks 33 and 34 in the draft,
and he would have accepted the same contract at 22 million if
they'd done it like over a year ago.
Right. Wow.
Well, this is maybe the offseason where teams can get
away with it. I mean, the the points, the
points are indisputable. But you know, I think I feel
like we've talked about it on this show right now, NFL teams
are throwing the money and we'll figure it out later.
It's one of the takeaways from Philadelphia is how they pushed
everything to 2029 and had the best roster in the league and
won it. And I don't know, Cincinnati's
defense was bad. They got to 9 and eight.
Think about their season. I mean, they lose to New England
in Week 1. There's no excuse for that.
But they lose to the Chiefs. Davis by a point in week two.
I mean, it's so crazy. Yeah.
The Chiefs were lucky to get out of there.
They lose the game to Washington on that incredible Daniels to
Mclaurin pass on the Monday night and we threw time.
To the Ravens. The two Baltimore games, right,
1 is a missed field goal in overtime and Henry Buss won and
beats them in Cincinnati. And then the other games back
and forth, 3534, a 2 point plate.
I mean, yesterday I got a call in Buffalo.
Would you rather be the Bills or the Bengals?
I, I think it's really close. I mean, I love what Cincinnati
has in these three guys. Defense comes and goes,
fluctuates wildly and they're they're dangerous.
I think a lot of the AFC was hoping that this would implode
and it didn't. I'm not.
I'd rather be the Bills. I'd rather be the Bills.
Yeah, you know, that's easy. For all of you, it's.
Easy. But I mean, last year we're
looking at like playoff stuff. And I mean, it was just so clear
that like if the Bengals get in, like this is a dangerous team.
Like you do not want to see the Bengals if you're any of these
AFC teams. It's like, you know, police give
me the Steelers or, or whatever. It's just very hard to win when
you have like a bottom 5 defense because it basically like you
get to the playoffs and teams are just, I mean, it's just what
teams did to them. Teams just abuse them.
Like a good team against them was like, well, we're just going
to get 30 and we're not even going to break a sweat doing it.
And then it forces Burrow to be the best possible version of
himself. Like Burrow does not have the
luxury of like Mahomes just like randomly forgetting how to play
football for quarters at a time. Like if that happened to the if,
if Joe Burrow did what Mahomes did last season and just was
like the 15th best quarterback in the league, the Bengals would
be like, I mean, they I don't even know if they would have won
a game if he had done what we're what Mahomes did on the
playoffs. I don't.
Know if we're gonna win a game? Yeah.
I mean, but we've seen teams do this.
I mean, the Chiefs did this. They they got, you know,
everything squared away with Mahomes and then they go figure.
Out the. Defense, they go figure out the
defense. So it's not that they don't need
to improve the defense, but they can still improve the defense.
Like to to Jacob's point, like now they just have to draft
well, which is what every team is going to have to do.
Like if you can't just you miss the playoffs and then you lock
up your stars on offense like. You're going to have to draft
well and and one bad draft year, like a year if you don't get
like let's just say the Bengals just for whatever reason this
year, they just suck a draft. They don't get a starter either
side of the ball really. Or maybe their first round pick
is a starter, but then no one else can start.
I mean, Mike, you've seen this with the Bills.
Look how brutal it was for Elam and Kincaid and Coleman to just
be huge misses. Like it just puts you in a spot
where you're like, well, shit, I guess we're what what was the
guy's when the the cornerback got hurt for the game against
the Chiefs? What's his name?
Benson. Christian Benford, who was
picked late in that same draft as Elam, so they got away with
that because Benford was is excellent.
But but then Benford being out for that game basically just
means like, will we lose? Like if you if you play that
game again and Benford, you play that game again and Benford
plays, I would not be surprised. Every Chiefs play was targeting.
Tire Elam, Yeah, yeah. Who has since been traded to
Dallas. Benford was, I think, concussed
the week before against Baltimore.
They had him out there against the Chiefs and he didn't make
it. He's up for a big contract just
on Higgins before we move on. Pat first wide receiver, 14.
Is he a future riser? Faller.
I can't imagine he'd be a faller.
What? What changes here?
Anything. Do we assume he was going back?
I really didn't, but I still like picking him.
I I think he should be like a slight faller in the sense that
he never really fell when he got franchise stags and there was
always like from a fantasy football perspective, the
highest ceiling outcomes were that he left and went somewhere
where he was just going to get like fed targets.
He's a number. He's a number one guy in my
mind, you know, if he's not in that situation.
So, you know, you could dream on stuff that wasn't never very
likely, but like it, you know, it opened up some ceiling if he
were to go and just get and get peppered targets.
Obviously he can pay off at an early third round ADP, but on
the Bengals, but I don't know. I mean, I don't think he should
move up like we this has been clear for a a while.
And if anything, I feel like he he never really fell from the
from the jump. I'm not sure you should fall
like I I think this is maybe it's not like the best spot, but
I I think it's better than most spots, especially with how bad.
The yeah it is. Projects to be like, you know,
you're with probably probably the best fantasy supporting
quarterback in the league in borough.
You're you have insane contingent value at all times if
Javar Chase ever gets hurt and even with Chase playing, he's
shown that he has one of the highest ceilings in the whole
league. And like the way that, you know,
the game that we play T Higgins is really well suited where he's
going to have fewer, you know, 12.4 weeks then most wide
receivers probably in this range.
But like he'll have a higher rate of hitting 303540 and that
that's perfect. You'll sign up for that every
time. So I think he's totally fine.
Pick where he is on the Bengals. Yeah, I think he's fine.
I'm not really fading him, but it's just I, I, yeah, I don't, I
don't see this creating upward trajectory either.
And you know, and it's always related to the player pool, like
who are you going to take ahead of them?
The guys better. Up Higgins than JSF real I
think. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I get that. I totally get that.
Davis agree. So the thing that I agree with
Pat's point that I think it hurts him a little bit because
the issue with T is if he did just have a bad touchdown year,
like let's just like he just had, you know, his his foot gets
ruled out on one week 16. They happen to play some team
that's starting their backup quarterback.
So they're just up 21 zero at halftime.
Like there are scenarios where T Higgins goes six weeks in a row
not contributing to your lineup because the volume is just not
there because he's like a 25% target share guy or 24% target
share guy, not a 30% target share guy.
Had he gone to, I mean, frankly, even like, oh, I mean, the
Patriots obviously was the nutted spot.
But if, if, if he had gone to one of these teams where they're
clear, where he clearly would have been 192 targets or
whatever penciled in that that takes you to a different tier of
where it's not just about how efficient you can be.
It's about you adding the efficiency spikes with the
absurd volume. Yeah, it's like there was a
chance at the open of this tournament.
You're like this guy might be a 12 turn guy by the end, so that
when you take that out of the range to me, like you should
like tick down slightly. But do I think like Garrett
Wilson with Justin Fields, like should definitely be going ahead
of them. Like you?
Not really. Not for me.
Thanks. Well, The funny thing is, is the
third. Round.
There's gonna be like 200 less targeted throws on The Jets than
the bagels, so it's like even if his target share is five points
lower, they're gonna have the same amount of targets.
The third round is being drafted in inverse order.
All the best picks in the third round are going at the end, and
it's all the guys at the beginning are like, well, like,
shit, I guess I'll take Josh Jacobs.
But it's like, you know who? I really want DJ Moore.
I really want Marvin Harrison Junior.
I really want Xavier Worthy. I really want Mike Evans.
I really want Trey McBride. But it's like there's like this
residual. McBride should be in the second.
I don't know. Devante yes, I frankly, I have a
hard time and I assume you guys are going to be against me on
this, but saying you know who I'd rather have the Devante
Adams, Bucky Irving, You know, like I just like, I just like.
I think if we all if we all got memory wiped of the of the ADP
constructs that we've been doing from the last three months and
it the tournament just dropped tomorrow and we were just like
manually reordering these players.
I think the two three turn and and the third round I think
would get shaken up. No need to be honest.
I've done I've done like 3 big boards.
I'd I'd go full sabbatical basically until until mid March.
So I am this person, Davis, and yeah, I would I would definitely
rather unbucky or. No need for me.
To you'd rather you'd rather have Bucky Urban Adams, just to
be clear. Sure.
Yeah, I would too. Yeah.
I I don't, I don't quite like. We keep doing this with the
Rams. Remember Allen Robinson?
Remember the training camp? I was a training camp.
Devon. Devon is way better than Alan
Robinson. Oh my God.
I was a training camp and I the whole offense is going to
revolve around Alan Robinson. Remember, it's I.
Was a full fate on a Rob. I'm not on that with Adams like
I. I'm not either, to be clear.
We have him right at a DPI, think he's fine, but the idea
that he should be up there at the 2-3 turn this starts to
starts to remind me of Alan. Robinson.
Robinson had already gotten old before he went to the Rams and
we we questioned whether he he was going to be age proof in
that offense. Adams really has not quite shown
that so. Far, but if you go to The Jets
and and Aaron Rodgers is willing to throw to you over over
Garrett Wilson, you'd be OK. But I don't.
I don't know he's going to find Allen Robinson.
This isn't what I'm used to. Allen Robinson, the year before
he went to the Rams, generated 410 yards on 66 targets in 12
games with one touchdown. It's not even.
With the Bears. It's yes, it's different.
It's different. Like the whole Allen Robinson
thing was ridiculous. It was like he was one of the
worst wide receivers in the NFL and then everyone was like third
round. I think it's Pat.
I think it's more like, what if Robert Woods had previously been
the best wide receiver ever of all time, as opposed to Allen
Robinson? I.
Think did they sign Randy Moss? They got, they got him.
Well, Moss obviously is the best ever, but Adams?
Adams was Jerry Rice. Came out of retirement.
I would almost believe that Jerry Rice would be back.
Jerry what? Where would we take Jerry Jerry
Rice if he signed a one year, $10 million deal with the Rams
right now? I wouldn't not draft him at
least. The question everyone is asking.
Rounds, man. Has anyone, has anyone put their
name on this yet? Just while we're doing Bucky
Irving, has anyone like invoked any of the year 1 Spike guys who
then immediately sucked the year after next?
Has anyone has anyone been brave enough to do that yet?
Not sure I'm brave enough to do it but just wondering the.
Floor is yours. I mean, you know, a a hundred
186 LB guy who got injured twice as a rookie.
It's this great running back class.
Like I'm just saying, I'm I'm pondering it.
I am pondering putting my name on that take.
I'm not I'm. Not.
Did you read the Matthew Berry article about how much they love
Bucky Irving? Yeah, although that's my like, I
like, I layer that over me at night and I like cuddle it.
The the love for Rashad White last year was vocal.
They wouldn't stop talking about how how he was a three down
back. Now, I guess you could say it
took him a long time to switch it, but I don't.
Yeah, I guess it really comes down to if they draft somebody
and White in a sense is cover because they don't like
Tucker's. Cover Tucker.
Tucker's cover. Yeah, Yeah.
And Somashi P Ryan, he's pretty good.
Three years, three years, 22 million.
Dollars, what was that you? Feel how good you feel about
Bucky should come into like how did you feel for the 20 minutes
that Samaj AP Ryan was a Buccaneer for $23 million like
how did that make you feel? I'll.
Tell you because we thought it was real so I naked Rashad white
and. Fucking basically, I thought
Rashad White was getting cut or traded, but I saw that like,
yeah, I I was. I was rereading the Ian Rapoport
update on the Rashad White situation tweet to try and
figure out if there was something in there.
I traded Rashad White for a late 3rd in Dynasty Davis.
When you have to make those cuts in FFPC, it's tight.
It's almost like getting a you save another guy with it.
In that league you and I are in, I traded Rashad White for a
first in that FFPC league, Oh my God, last last offseason.
Last year, yeah, that's, that's crazy.
Yeah. I mean, right now I I liked what
I got. But anyway, we have slides and
this is the first one. What happened here?
That oh man.
What's the story here? I went on this I went on this
big long rant on the swole cast this last year.
This is a this is a a graphic that Zach has made from my
stream. Basically, I went I went on this
big long rant on the swole cast last year while advancing like 3
best ball teams out of 1400 about how I was not going to be
able to do fantasy content anymore and have to get hired by
State Farm. So it's this is a a take on the
Jason light bit that Semaj P Rein because Jason light the
Bucks GM literally quote tweeted dove climb and right and said,
no, we did not. We we did not tied Semaj AP
right to that deal. If only I'd known that we could
have tied those together, but that's really good.
That is a very good bet. Zach is.
He's cooking today.
Yeah. Let's keep.
Running risers. That's why you're here.
ADP chasing after all Naji Harris, Joshua Palmer, Devante
Adams, aforementioned Justin Fields, Devante Williams, Elijah
Mitchell traded to Kansas City, Evan Ingram now with Denver.
Man, I, I'm, I'm in on Naji. I have been we've talked about
it a few times. He was always I thought my guess
was he was going somewhere good. I wanted it to be Minnesota
originally, but Chargers is a is pretty nice.
I guess the question is whether they'll what up, what they'll do
with it. Is that Vidal?
Is that a draft pick? Is that someone else?
And then what kind of workload does he get?
If it's good, I think that could be, I mean, great value.
You guys disagree? No, I mean, I this to me is like
the universe healing itself. Like I was touting Naji Harris
on podcasts. Michael Dudner's writing
articles about Naji Harris, one of the best values.
Miss priced player, you know, he's we're behind ADP again.
OK, we're we're just I think about a pick behind his ADP.
You know, this this is starting to feel like things are kind of
moving in the right direction. Soon enough he'll be a fade.
I can talk about how he was the worst sixth round pick on the
board, but there was, I mean, it was an obvious Daniel Raz for
leg up wrote a wrote an article about a month ago that was like
looking at the landscape of, of the running back position and
how many teams needed running backs.
And you kind of do a quick exercise like who needs
starters? And you know, how many guys are,
are ready to come in from the draft.
And, and even though it's a great class, like it's not ten,
you know, and it just immediately take a job.
So it's it's clear that at, at worst, Naji was probably going
to end up forming a committee with one of those guys.
He probably still will, but you now have the potential that he
is like the the JK Dobbins for this team.
And I'm not a Naji guy, but you know he's capable of of doing
that. He was priced great before.
He was very comfy. You just like you take your 20%
and you move on. And now that the right wing
slappies have shown up, you say you tip your cap to them and you
say thank you. Because the The thing is, is
there's this meta narrative like, dude, man, you know who
you really want? You really want a Chargers
running back, They're just going to pound the ball.
But the thing about these coaches that love to run the
ball is they also are not interested in fantasy points or
points on the board. Like they just want to win every
game 19 to 13 somehow and, and just, and just move on.
Like it would there, there would be all these Dobbins spots.
You'd be like, oh, dude, it's, it's it arrow up for Dobbins.
Like I'm playing Dobbins this week on, on DraftKings.
And he'd have a good game. He'd have 18 rushes for 92
yards, 4 receptions for 16 yards.
And he'd be like, oh man, he really almost could have been
smashing. And then he just never would
cause the team is not interested in smashing.
Yeah. Oh.
He's like a lot of Dobbins games, like I had him on a main
event team where I'd be watching the game and I'd be like, I feel
like I'm smashing. But then I would look at the end
of the game and I would have 10.9 PPR points.
But it was like he just had 26 carries for 109 yards.
So just like it felt like I had forward momentum 3 yards at a
time. Yep.
I I do think with with Harris like totally agrees.
Great pick at 106 really undervalued.
I think that the landing spot I I saw Gretsch wrote about it and
I had a very similar take, which was like the landing spot's
good, but the contract is way worse than I thought he was
going to get like one year 5.25 million extensives up to 9.25
million. I thought he would have gotten
something more like Aaron Jones contract you know 2 for 20 with
13 guaranteed. So I as much as the landing
spot's good, it it increases the ceiling for him.
I, I think it really decreases the floor though.
Like that level of contract does not take an early running back
pick off the table. That's like kind of a bare
minimum running back investment from the Chargers.
So I think there's a world in which that running back is
drafted in like round four and he barely plays and Harris is
just the dude. I, I don't think it's like
inconceivable the Chargers still take a running back on, you
know, round one or round two and then by like week five, that
running back is the clear leader in the backfield.
So I'm I'm gonna. I think that's still very, very
likely. I mean, it's a, it's a good
running back class. So you like part of the the when
I was thinking through Naji before, part of the reason I
thought it was a good pick is that like at pick 100, this is
an acceptable range to take. Like the Zach Charbonnet type,
you know, like like really strong contingent value probably
mixes in. And with Harris, you get that as
like probably the end of the season if they if they end up
bringing someone in. But early in the season, you
have like a starter 1A and a committee type.
You know, if they were even if they were to draft like a Quinch
on Judkins or something like that, you you could have him,
you could have Naji kind of starting the season.
You also have the potential for them to draft like Trayvon
Henderson and have it be a kind of a committee all year.
You also have the potential for them to draft somebody in them
not be good, you know, and then Naji has the backfield for for
the whole season. So at pick 100, there's lots of
different ways for you to win. As he moves up, you might be
drafting a backup running back. So, you know, I just have a lot
less interest. Maybe the tight end for Michigan
is too easy of a fit because of Harbaugh and Pick 22 Loveland.
But I like that idea more. And then I like every idea more
than a running back in the first round, I guess.
But do something different and then wait on running back.
Then I maybe I'm I'm OK with with Harris.
Well, but you yeah, you feel better for sure, but I just
would I'd caution people with like this class where if they
wait till round four to take a running back that does not save
Naji for you know, if you think about end of season, it might it
might save his ADP, but think about.
End of season What's Vidal anymore?
Not much, but we'll always have that wheel route.
That wheel route on the right sideline, I mean, beautiful.
And that'll be the highlight. He, he, the Birmingham
Stallions, I fear, are are calling.
For I. Don't know man.
It's going to be great on the Blue Bombers.
I I was. Talking to I was talking to Kyle
Walters, our GM, and I was letting him know, you know, keep
an eye on Kumani, but they'll might be unemployed in the NFL
soon. So we'll we'll have a nice
bomber Suzy ready for him. OK.
All right. There we go, XX Charger Joshua
Palmer next on this list, signing with the Bills.
I don't expect Palmer. Palmer.
T Higgins chart or did those die with?
Sam, where's the mystery player? That's what I was looking for.
No mystery player, huh? Zach, come on.
What's going on? I don't have one.
You know, some some random weird split yards per route run on,
you know, slot snaps. Huh.
Verse Verse man. We don't usually talk about slot
snaps versus man, but OK. I saw I saw Brett Coleman doing
a tweet where it was like he was criticizing the D Higgins
signing and he had a stat by stat comparison with like a very
cherry pick set of stats between JA Juan Jennings and D Higgins.
So that was like, man, Sam lives on man, like Sam never died.
That's. Great.
In Buffalo I I can buy that Palmer is a is a good fit for
his skills, but I don't see it amounting to big numbers.
Like to me he's about the same. I'm not drafting him.
No, no, what, what, what are you?
What are you realistically hoping for?
For like the 4th target on the Buffalo Bills.
You want 2024 DeMarcus Robinson, that's what you're open.
For But that's like, so not Palmer's game.
He's like, so not a touchdown scorer.
The the the touchdown. The the DeMarcus Robinson on the
Bills is Dawson Knox. Yeah, this, this is literally
just like human memory. Like people are like, oh, right,
Josh Palmer. Josh Palmer, I drafted him.
I drafted him at 1:10 last year, so he's got to be good here,
right? Oh, yeah.
OK. Yeah, I could take him.
That's it. I mean, there's I don't think
there's really much and fine, fair enough.
Like you're he's a, you know, could he be the Zay Jones when
he had a spike week in the right week on the Jags?
Like, yeah, I guess he could, you know?
I mean he had no target competition last season on I
mean he he just got spectacularly dunked on by
Quentin Johnston and Will Disley, who everyone sort of
assumed was like a blocker and then just like ripped off a six
week stretch where he was second on the team in targets like Josh
Palmer is think of Josh Palmer the way you think of like Justin
Watson and Parker Washington and the like.
You know he. Just I drafted Parker Washington
last night, though, you know there.
You go. As a as a nineteen 20th round
pick, I think he's fine. We're we got him at like 2O3 on
underdog. Not he's draftable.
I I don't think taking him at the you know, 189 is is what I'm
trying to do. But it's not like, you know,
whatever at the end of the end of the draft.
If you have Allen absolutely. Now do you think Davis, that
this is part of their plan to revive, to revive Dalton
Kincaid, that they they saw what he did for Will Disley?
I think their plan, I think their plan is just like, I feel
like the Bills decision makers really want Kincaid to be good.
Like they really want to feel vindicated about that pick.
So I I kind of see it, yeah. Hey, man, he was, he was injured
last year. People are tied in as a slow
developing position. He was they've been they've been
spreading that he was injured last year to anyone who will
listen, anyone who's like slightly kind of an insider of.
The they did they, they did the same thing with Gabriel Davis
the year he came off an ankle injury in Week 2 and played
through it all season and he was hurt.
The thing they said about Kincaid, which is not to me
encouraging, especially in these streets, is they want him to get
stronger. They felt that late in the
season he wasn't strong enough. They changed out their strength
and conditioning coach and they want they want that from
Kincaid. Sounds like they want him to be
more like Knox. Who they?
Have I don't know that. Is.
Bulk up, buddy. That is, you're.
Talking about Josh Palmer getting brought in to make
Kincaid happen, they brought an entirely due strength and
conditioning staff just because of this little weak link like
that's that is catering to Dalton Kincaid.
Like they're pulling up all the stops.
You say what you want about Kyle Pitts.
They've never had a new strength and conditioning coach come in
to get to get him. They gave him to Bulk.
Up. Well, they you.
Know as far as we. Go The Falcons have just waved
the white flag on the Kyle Pitts experience.
They're like, yeah, he's a deep threat tight end.
It is what it is. We we we whiffed on the pick and
whatever we get out of him is a plus.
But the the Kincaid stuff is like, you know, a dynasty
manager who's like still trying to get the 110 for Travis Kelsey
or whatever. He's like, I know I should have
sold him last year, but maybe I can get something.
They just, they're, it's just like you can just admit you
whiffed on a pick. Like the Chiefs benched their
left tackle last year. They just benched him.
They were like, this is not working.
He's just on the bench. Sometimes you miss.
CEH you know. CEH.
Yeah, literally just like Damian Williams.
All right, there we go. They they were pretty quick on
CEH. They honestly were, you know.
They Kincaid is the bill CEH Yeah, that is the exact.
Comparison. Oh.
We actually had that in the comments.
Yeah. Kincaid is the bill.
CEH Boom, yeah. I'd like to.
I'd like to live in the alternate timeline, by the way,
where he never has that game versus USC and see where he goes
in the NFL draft. Be interesting.
Didn't work out. Trade up for him.
That's where we're at. Season high 52 yards and four
touchdowns in two years. 52, yeah.
Now their cornerback was a running back I think.
Is that right? Don't mind remembering that.
That's a different part of the lore tree.
Yeah. But both involve Utah.
Jacob, who else on this risers list means something to you?
But I think, I think Fields has not risen enough.
I would say, yeah, yeah, I, I think that's a guy that probably
should be another, another round or two, maybe even of ADP rise.
Well, let me let me ask you the. Concept last year.
He starts 17 games right? Well, that's the thing.
We're we're like slightly ahead of ADP on him, but that's I'd
like to get outside the drafts where like his contract does not
preclude them from drafting someone in like the second
round. Well, it doesn't, but I just
think like this is maybe just hunching, I guess, but I don't
know. I look at Aaron Glenn comes over
from The Jets and like they had the chance on the Lions to draft
the guy. They didn't.
They instead went the reclamation project route.
I think he's sort of viewing, he's going to try to do the same
thing. He's going to build the roster
up around the quarterback and then either Fields is going to
be the reclamation project like golf, or he's not and they'll
draft someone later. But I feel like this year, like
he's there to kind of change the culture, clean up the vibes a
little bit. And I think they give Fields the
whole year. I think also just because
there's not that many good quarterbacks in this draft and
I, I don't think they're going to take like Chadur at pick
seven well. No, they're taking Jackson Dart
at pick seven brothers. They woke.
No. Have you?
First of all, all of a sudden there's movement like Todd
Mcshay's putting out stuff saying he thinks the Browns go
chadur AT2. Cam Ward seems like he is going
to go #1 so like the whole. Hyper and Jeremiah had Chadur at
3:00 today, both in their mocks. Yeah.
So, so there was this period where the NF LS like, Nah, we're
not that into these quarterbacks.
And then they looked around, they see the Steelers and the
Giants like begging Aaron Rodgers to play for them and
they're like, you know, I don't mind this quarterback class so
much. So I think we could see now I
don't, I don't think The Jets go quarterback round one, but.
Have you heard? Have you heard the film guys
talk about Tyler Shock? They they're in love.
Oh my God, they're in love enough.
They're in love with this guy. Dude, he's going second round,
he's going to go second round. And I could see, I could see The
Jets being a spot. OK, but like he's but like then
he's going to show up and they're going to be like, oh,
like you're Christian Hackenberg.
Like we're never playing you. Like he Tyler, he's what is
this? He's like 26 years old and he
like doesn't even. Have no, I mean, first of all,
first of all, Justin Fields has never had a mentor.
So right there you you take care of that.
Is he older than fields? Possibly I.
Think he might be? No, he's definitely older than
fields like maybe by maybe by like multiples.
Multiples. He might be.
Dog years older. Pat, this has been your idea to
get a, a, a backup, a second quarterback that's a like, you
know, style wise like the starter.
This is Milro at pick 42. You could.
Don't.
Take Milro. Fire everybody.
No, I, I think if I'm The Jets, I don't.
Before even coach, it's a game job in.
There 1. Month, yeah, you didn't take
this. Probably bad quarterback like
you're fired. If if if either the Colts or The
Jets do not take jail millroad, then they are not
organizationally committed to success on the field, I think.
Does this mean that one of The Jets or the Colts entire front
offices needs to be fired? Because like you've said this
about the Colts, I think 2 weeks ago.
So like if one of them like who whoever takes it gets millroad,
they can keep their jobs the other.
Then the other guy gets fired. The other the other are.
Not I don't think. I don't.
Think Colts guys have at least been there?
The Colts. Are not taking jail in Melrose.
So let me tell you right now, like I've been one, I would love
him to take Jill Millrow 2. I would love Chris Ballard to
seek unemployment. Neither of those things are
happening anytime soon. So I'm I'm.
Telling you dude, it's it's just extremely unserious if one of
those two teams does not take. Them.
Yeah, the Colts are extremely unserious.
They're run by like a 65 year old man.
Who Jacobs? Jacobs tweeting at Chris Ballard
about the White Lotus, hoping he'll take off the Thailand
That's he's hoping he'll seek unemployment in Thailment.
He's an LBH. He's an LBH.
He shaved his head and moved to Thailand.
Jim Erste actually is like an LBH like when you watch like all
the groups of like the old people with shady financial
dealings like Jim Ersten. Be right at home as an extra,
the white Lonus. Fields, by the way, I'm
absolutely jamming. I'm jamming I think.
He's taking the Raspam I think he's ever taken.
I don't think I think Jim Ersten goes a little harder than
Raspam, but I'm sure he's giving it a shot.
Are are you guys not just like ecstatic to be pumping the
button on fields right now when after the depth chart is Tyler
Shuck, Justin Fields and and you know, I don't know Jordan
Travis, let's say they keep him. I mean, he's going to end up
being you're still. Got tie rod?
I don't think he's under contract.
I think maybe he's in a restricted free agent.
Maybe I made that up. Check, check that, check that,
Fact Check me, I thought. They did.
So that's actually not great. I was operating.
I was operating under the belief that Tyrod was a free agent
because that's not great because you can bench Justin Fields for
Tyrod. But for what point?
Yeah, no. Save your job I.
I well, not I don't think they're in.
Not in your world. They're in like put a good
product on the field mode. I think that, you know, they
come from the, the Dan Campbell tree and it's like, let's, let's
get out there and, and play our hearts out right and get and
kind of make this organization respectable again.
It's kind of the, the move. And I think Fields makes a lot
of sense. Like I, I was a big fan of them
bringing fields in. I think, I think frankly,
Steelers completely botched the situation not to have him as
their guy. And now they're begging Aaron
Rodgers, like, come on. It's a terrible position to put
yourself in. So I I think it was a great move
and I totally could see them not adding competition to the room
and just riding with Fields and building up the roster.
And then kind of like what the Raiders look to be doing, right?
The Raiders look to be like, let's get this.
Let's get an environment that we can actually put a young
quarterback in and expect them to succeed, even if they're not
a superstar. And Geno Smith can kind of help
captain us along. And until we're there, that
could be what they're doing with Fields, but it's just, it's a
lot shakier, like the floor is lower, you know, of what, of
what that could end up looking like because we have seen fields
fail, you know, and and you know, I, he was better last
year, but it wasn't, it wasn't amazing.
So he's a guy, I think at the current price makes a lot of
sense. If he were to rise considerably
from here, though, then I do start to think about like we
could be talking about a guy who's not starting at the end of
the year, you know, and when you only have two or three of these
guys, you know, two or three quarterbacks on your entire
roster, that really hurts, you know, especially if you're
paying like a tenth round pick for this guy.
Well, that's why you got to take him now and not in basketball
mania when he's the quarterback 8, which he will be.
Yeah, I'm out. I'm out if he's the quarterback
8. I mean, we literally just did
this, but we did it in reverse last year where he was the
quarterback 6. And no, he was.
Justin Fields was the quarterback 6 in the big board?
No, last year. Oh, last.
Oh, I see in the big. Board, yeah, the big board,
yeah, cuz. Cuz I was gonna say like the
last time that we had Justin Fields.
No, maybe Pat's right. And he's not assured to start
the whole year. The last time that we went into
a season. Think he just feels to start the
whole year. He went at like the 4-5 turn,
didn't he? Like it was like that year on
the Bears. That year, on the Bears, he was.
No, he didn't pay off. No, I think 5-6 turn with Burrow
that year if I'm. Remember right two years ago,
right? I remember being at the X.
You're right, it was 4-5. My bad.
Yeah, because you could take more and fields together right
at the 4-5. Yeah, it was 4-5.
Yeah. Being at the Expo in Canton when
it's the beginning of the preseason and fields through
like a a pass like basically a lateral to DJ Moore and he went
60 to the house or something in the first pre season game.
And everybody went to the bar and argued about whether it was
good. Like fields put up, you know, a
couple of touchdowns right away in the pre season for the Bears.
And you know, we couldn't even decide on whether it was
actually anything. I I like the quarterbacks in
front of them, though. They're still Prescott.
They're still, you know, 15 is May Fields is 20.
I don't need, I don't need to go much higher.
The other thing with Fields, it's like we did have this
period last year where he's starting and wasn't like that
great of a fantasy quarterback. Not that he was bad, but the
dream of like, you know, this dude is going to be this dual
threat cheat code for fantasy. I don't know that we would
really expect him to be used like that for The Jets.
It's probably going to be like a bit more traditional.
And so like, what are we really even getting the guy that would,
you know, be worth taking? Like does he have that ceiling
or were we always kind of projecting that on him?
Because when he does run, it can be amazing.
Fields had 1200 rushing yards and eight rushing touchdowns in
a season. I mean, you just really do not
find. But Justin, if I guaranteed you
right now he's playing 17 games. He's healthy and The Jets are
not an abject disaster. Let's say they win seven games.
Where are you? So it's it's not like a will
they won't they bench him thing all year.
Where are you taking Justin Fields if I guarantee you that
information? You're guaranteeing me what
again? He plays all year and they're
not terrible. Not that much higher for me
though. Still Davis because.
I'm I'm taking him way higher. I would take him way higher,
yeah. Is there a, Is there a
Richardson, is there a Richardson thing here where we
want you to sort of learn? I don't want, I don't want to
say it the wrong way, but to real quarterback play stuff
where maybe Fields does get 17 games.
Does quarterback a team that isn't terrible but isn't running
as much. I mean, fields always have the
high scramble rate, right? Like that's the thing with
Richardson is he actually doesn't scramble that much.
So Richardson, it's it's more based on design runs.
So where is it when you asked him to drop back?
First of all, nothing good ever happens.
But also he doesn't really scramble.
He just, he just fires balls into the stands.
So with fields like I, I don't think it matters really.
Like what you call or like even if they call fewer designed runs
for fields that didn't, I mean, remember the year we we were
like losing our minds over how few design runs he was getting
called for him early in his Chicago tenure and he was still
getting there. Not every game, but in these big
spike because you have these big scrambles like I would take
fields way higher. Like I'm looking at it.
I mean, maybe it's not like he's materially better than a ton of
these guys, but I just don't understand like why would I ever
bother other than stacking reasons Like I don't understand
why I would take like Baker Mayfield or Bo Nicks or like any
of these guys that are like in the 88 to 100 range well.
Kyler's going 94. Yeah, we feel that much better
about Fields and Kyler. No, I mean Fields is behind like
Michael Pannick's right now. Like that doesn't make a lot of
sense to me. I mean, there's I just think
it's really flat and it's really shocking how widely spread these
quarterbacks are. Like, I don't, I don't think
there's much of A justification for 50 picks of ADP between like
Fields or even guys like Tua versus like Goff and you know,
the Kyler, Bonex, Baker, that tier like that needs to get
compressed. Well, I mean, part of it for me
is that once you get to that pocket it, it, it's extremely
compressed once you get there and like I'm, I want to live in
this area. So like Kyler at 94 is a great
pick in my opinion. And you get if fields were to
pass him, I would just kind of wave goodbye.
Like I haven't drafted much Bo Nix 'cause I'm like what I can
get, like Kyler and. I would just take.
I would take. Just Williams and.
Straight up right now, knowing what I know with the information
I have on March 18th, I would just rather have Justin Fields
on my fantasy teams. Than Bo Nix, Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I don't understand Bonex's price at all.
And I I think I think if if if fields.
Hayden Hayden decided to rank him as the quarterback 7 three
months ago and people just were like.
Felt like, well that's the same thing.
I guess it is what it. Is I don't want to fade Bonex,
you know I gotta take a beer. I don't want to have zero you.
Know imagine not having Nix. You know, I got, I got my 16%
bone Nix last year, so I'll even it out with a 0% this year and
then we're fine. We're at market for for two
years. I like, I don't know, he feels
just is Kyler to me. If he gets the full year then
he's Kyler. Then it's like they should go in
the same spot. Jacob, I think you're out in
like 12 minutes. I don't want to.
I'm out in nine, yeah. Unfortunately.
I. Yeah, OK, let's Evan Ingram, I
think might be interesting for a minute, but I also want to get
the Fallers in before Jacob has to run.
How big of a win for Ingram was landing in Denver?
Pretty big win. I think arguably like the best
body could have gotten. I'm kind of a, at least in real
life, I'm kind of an Emmett Ingram hater.
I mean in terms of real life football, I don't mean like I
walk a Devon Ingram and just punch him in the face.
But. I.
Think yeah, I think, I think Jacksonville generally made a
mistake in using him as like an every down tight end because
he's not that effective of a blocker.
And so I think it's a big reason why the running game was pretty
bad and I don't think most teams would then use them that way.
I don't think the Denver will either.
It's just we've seen tight ends have success in a 65 to 70%
route rate role in shot Peyton offenses.
So you look at like what Jared Cook was able to do, Benjamin
Watson was able to do even like I think Kobe Fleener had one
decent season as that move flex tight end.
I think it's going to be used really intelligently.
So seems like a big, big win if you're an Evan Ingram supporter.
God I just got shivers down my goddamn spine at the name of
Kobe Fleener being invoked because holy shit that's the
like. The Kobe Lena role was good for
fantasy but it was not a full time role.
It was very much like a hyper specific niche role.
Yeah. It actually makes me wonder,
like, is that going to pay off in ADP of, you know, 1:30 or
1:20 as he moves up? We've been on Evan Ingram
because I thought he was like, you know, it's like Jacksonville
probably shouldn't cut him because they're not like
overflowing with with pass catchers.
But if they do cut him, he's going to land somewhere as a
pass. You don't bring in Evan Ingram
and ask him to block like he's he's got a very clear role.
But you know, Noah fan plays about half the snaps like this
can get ugly. Are you are you worried about
the floor at all with him not having a full time role
potentially? Yeah, yeah, I think his his
range is pretty wide. You could tell me anything from
he easily out targets Cortland Sutton and is the more
productive of the pair because Cortland Sutton's 30 years old
and was kind of miscast as like a clear alpha wide receiver.
Or you could tell me Sean Payton is just so addicted to being
fancy that like Adam Troutman and Lucas Kroll and and you
know, these other guys are out there to block and, and he has,
you know, it's 62% of the routes.
The Nathan Yankee tweet of Adam Troutman is the Denver Broncos
starting tight end that is going to hit so hard like that is.
Yeah, I sucked that in. Yeah, Troutman just played so
he's 70% of the snaps until the 1st preseason game.
Then it'll be going down by by 12 to 56.
I there's only one tight end that I looked quickly that I
think I would solidly take ahead of him and ironic because I did
not like this guy last year, but probably the Ferg dog.
I think I would take the Ferg dog out of him.
He's going to be playing all the snaps, going to run all the
routes. He I don't know he's the same
guy that we took like in the sixth round for some God
forsaken reason last year. I don't really understand why
he's now going in like the 13th. That would be that would be a
dude. I would probably take over
Everett Ingram, but otherwise I'm probably had everyone else
behind them. They all look like part time
people too. Yeah, and there's and there's
Kyle Pitts right down there at the.
End well, I I don't I don't I don't see the name Kyle Pitts.
I I scroll and it's like unidentified.
All right. Well then, us as the Slappy
community, we're casting. We're casting you out, man.
We are. We are, we are casting.
No, we're way behind on Kyle Pitts and like F1.
Look man, if you were drafting Kyle Pitts last year in Round 8
or whatever and you can't take him at around 14 now, then you
were never. Really.
That's what I said last last year.
I was like, well, I was taking him in round four.
Well, I was taking him in round two.
It's like, how many times do we need to do this?
I. Forgot a couple more, Jacob, at
least one more time. Yeah, next year.
You can't draft them in the 20th round.
Just go 20 rounds. You can't just take a fire.
We used to be drafting him in NFL fantasy football.
You're not willing to play Arena League football to draft Kyle
Pitts? I will be, I will be if, if Kyle
Pitts, if Kyle Pitts is in the Arena League and DraftKings
brings it back, I mean, absolutely, I will be there.
I'll be there the same way I was there to play Trent Richardson
in UFLDFS. You know, streets, don't forget.
I mean, he just opens up so much when you when you pull up plug
in that min salary, you know, there's so much he can do he's.
Going to be catching passes from Case Cookus for what did you
say, the Birmingham Stallions? What they are case case case
cookus, dude case cookus he could play.
Ballers, Jordan Whittington with the Devante Adams signing in
LAJK Dobbin still a free agent. Jalen McMillan DK Metcalf.
McMillan. What?
What do we have with him? Everybody's back.
Doblin done. No interest at Pick 88.
I can't have less interest at pick 88.
I don't understand where he was going in the 1st place he.
Was always optimistic, yeah. He wasn't he scored a ton of
touchdowns last year, but his his stats were fine.
Like he he didn't have that impressive for rookie year and
now he's the third option and he'll probably run a lot of
routes, but like he didn't really do anything prior to
Evanston. God would go.
I don't know. He's still got to follow like
two more rounds for me to be particularly interested
personally. You have the rookies, Davis
right there in the same range, Golden and Ibuka.
I'm always taking the rookies over McMillan as well.
Yeah, I'm contractually obligated to be a golden slappy,
but I I'm not as down on McMillan as these guys because I
view Kate Auten as basically like a functional blocking dummy
on the field. Like not a guy who's going to
earn targets When Mike Evans, Chris Godwin and Jill McMillan
are on the field. It'll be a high volume,
relatively speaking, passing offense.
Baker. I mean, McMillan will not, you
know, he's not going to be like, oh, you took this guy in the
FFPC main event and you're plugging him in every week and
you're smashing him. But he's got like obviously mega
contingent upside. We saw it last year when the
guys were missing time and he's got enough spike week stuff.
I mean, there's going to be a random, there will be a four
target 2 touchdown game in there for Jill McMillan at some point.
Like I think he's he's going around where like, I mean
Shaheed and Downs like kind of similar things where the volume
is a little bit uncertain, but the spike weeks are there.
I I think he's fine, Colt. Scouts are going to be fine.
Daniel Jones is playing like 14 games this year.
Daniel Jones. And he's going to be just as
good as Gardner Minshew was, like we're going to be no, but
he can be Gardner Minshew. Like the Downs and Pittman
prices are crazy people you are afraid of Anthony Richardson.
Andy Richardson is going to be out of your lives by Week 3,
don't worry. About that I so often I'm like,
I guess I should take downs and it is scary and like I will I
will give the people credit here.
I feel the same fear like it is. It is not a fun click, but
Downs, even with some Anthony Richardson bearishness, I think
is pretty underpriced. Pittman had a fracture in his
back last year, which is like, you know, kind of concerning for
a guy who's not that great. But the Anthony Richardson
bearishness works for you like you don't have.
That's the thing. You don't have to.
You don't have to fear Anthony Richardson.
You have to. Anthony Richardson being the
worst quarterback in the league, that's great.
He's out of there, out of your life.
Don't worry about it. Yeah, but then you got Daniel
Jones, you know, it's, it's like, is Tommy DeVito going to
end up throwing passes like these?
Things can get bad, you know what I mean?
Sam Ellinger, he's going to be great, don't worry.
About it, yeah. Yeah, Jacob, once again, welcome
to the team. Makes this even more fun.
We'll see you next week. I appreciate it very much.
I will see you guys next week. Have a blast rest of the show
and excited to join you guys for the season.
Thank you very much. Thanks, Jacob.
Good comment. Good comment from Sacrilegious
here. McMillan basically scored the
same fantasy points as JSN his rookie year, yet we are saying
he had a bad rookie year. Curious.
Yeah, although it kind of reminds me of of like Tyler
Boyd, you know, when we were drafting him as the number three
on the Bengals. And it's like, I don't, I don't
think this offense is going to support like 3 receivers worthy
of a, you know, top 90 ADP, top 95 ADP like it does.
He just shouldn't be going here anymore.
He should fall at least 10 picks, maybe a little more.
I mean, I guess you could argue that he's going to have like
some early season value because Godwin's coming off the ankle
injury and he is a second year guy.
Maybe we get a a breakout, you know, or secondary breakout
because he kind of broke out last year.
But. One of these years Mike Evans
isn't Mike Evans. Yeah, but like Baker Mayfield's
number three wide receiver at like pick 90 is really rich.
I mean, it's like, it's like there's obviously a little bit
of contingent upside built in there.
There's a little bit of the market not wanting to let go
what it had before. That is big.
Like I basically like, I don't get McMillan much anymore
because I do have Golden and Ibuka ranked ahead of him.
But you know, there I think there's like a pretty good
argument that after the top 5060 picks, kind of like the
multiverse, like the the contingent stuff matters so
much. And he's one of the clearest.
I mean, he's if you think about contingent value wide receivers,
I mean, he's probably the best one in football.
I can't really think of a guy well.
T Higgins would be. Yeah, but I mean, T Higgins is
the second round pick. You know, I'm thinking, I'm
thinking like, oh, I said. You're price adjusted.
Price adjusted, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like I guess the issue that I have with McMillan is he's a
he's a number three guy. And so you're like last year,
you know, we're taking Christian Kirk a bit and it's like after
the year you go in retrospect, seems kind of fucked up that I
was taking Jacoby Myers in the the third round, you know, and,
and this kind of feels like McMillan is sort of the
expensive version of of an 18th round pick.
You know, it's like we get like, hey, he's he's he's a solid
player. He's definitely gonna have a
job. He's he's unlikely to on talent
past the top two guys ahead of him.
He kind of needs an injury to really get a target share that's
boosted. You know, it's it's like it's
it's sort of Jalen Tolberty or something.
Like I know he's a much better player than that guy, But but
that's kind of you know, it starts to get like a little bit
like, you know, I don't want to be completely out because I
think he's good, but it's it's just like, man, you know, at
this price when you have like I think Ibuka is good too, you
know, and he's going to go first round and probably land
somewhere where he where he's going to project well and and
think about it from a closing line value perspective, like.
What are the odds that post draft Mcmillan's going in the
sixth round versus yeah, no, no change.
Like he's he's dead. He's dead to the closing line
value on on Golden and Ibuka and those dudes.
So, and frankly, guys going behind him, you know, there's a,
there's a chance that one of these other, like there's a
chance Jayden Higgins ends up as a a sixth or seven.
Oh, Jayden Higgins, I think probably is.
Yeah, gonna do that. Travis Hunter, Travis Hunter,
Great point. Great point.
I mean, he could be like a four if it if the Patriots take him
and they're like, oh, he's the number one wide receiver, like
fourth round pick. Which someone will, I think,
which someone will actually do. Yeah, for what he costs.
Yeah. So I mean, there's there's an
upside case, you know, that that plays out over the course of the
season, but there's really no upside place that case outside
of a, a, a freak injury, you know, offseason injury to one of
the guys ahead of him where there's there's lots of upside
cases in the next, in the next, you know, month and 1/2 for
these other guys. Quarterbacks on the move or not
yet as we still wait on Aaron Rodgers just how he wants it,
Russell Wilson as well, Jameis Winston bouncing around a little
bit. We've got Richardson and Daniel
Jones on this chart, Kenny Pickett as well.
Pat, and we talked about Fields already.
I don't. Know I did.
I I would like the record to show that I waited until Jacob
Sanderson left the show before trying to compare Jaylen
Tolbert. So it is it's fair to to call me
out there. Can he can he Pickett, We, we
have to talk about him. Can we can we skip him?
I don't think we do. I mean, Kenny, Kenny Pickett is
drawing at least like 13% live to start week one for the
Browns. What do you think the Browns do?
I guess do you think the Titans take Ward is that is that?
So I think the Giants trade up for Ward.
OK. The Browns could also do that.
The Browns could also do it. They might feel that they're
further away from competing. I think the Giants can
reasonably argue we could win 10 games this year if we get
competent. So they have the neighbors part.
The defense played quite well last year.
They have that left tackle who's always injured, but at least
theoretically if he's healthy, they already have the left
tackle so they can at least tell themselves they're closer.
Now. Cleveland has like nothing.
Cleveland has like Miles Garrett, an offensive line that
always projects to be the 4th best in the league and then is
always ass. She's like every year people are
like, oh, the Browns offensive line, they got dogs and then
they're terrible. Although it might be related to
the quarterback play, but yeah, I don't know.
Is Rogers, is Rogers just going to retire?
Can we just be? Can we?
Just be done with this. That would be funny.
Like I would. I would actually gain a little
respect for Rogers. Not a ton, but a little more
than I have now. I want retired.
What what I want to have happen is for these, the Steelers and
the Giants, and I get whoever else to just sort of end up on
someone else. And then he's Belichick at that
point, right? Like he just couldn't get a job.
And they'll, they'll tell a certain story about it, but I
don't need him around. So I kind of hope that happens.
Yeah, I mean, if he wants to play, he can play cuz he can go
be the bridge slash backup in Minnesota.
What a weird idea that I don't get that at all.
I don't really get it either, but it seems like Minnesota's
open to it. So now the, the the Browns
thing, there's been some buzz about them getting Chador and it
kind of makes sense that they're like that.
They, you know, we heard that they're locked into a
quarterback at one, I kind of thought or at two, I kind of
thought that was like BS to get to try to get the Giants to to
trade up so they could get their pick between Carter and Hunter.
Not that they wouldn't take Ward if he was there, but basically
their number one player is, is one of the other two guys.
And their preference would be to just sit there and take him.
But they're in, they're in, you know, dire straits.
They might have to start Kenny Pickett.
So I I could see them doing Shudor, but I could also see
this all being like leaning towards them maybe taking guy in
the second or third round and trading for Kirk Cousins.
James Palmer had a report that like the the thing of them
eating the $10 million to 2026 was basically just buying them
time to then move him later, keep him on the roster And they
could structure the deal so that they're taking the, the Falcons
are continuing to take on the salary and get getting
compensated for doing so basically.
So they, they want, if they're trading Cousins, they want
something for him that they, they're willing to pay the
money, but they get a draft pick in return.
And so I think Cousins is still on the table to get traded,
still potentially fills one of these open quarterback spots.
And Cleveland still makes the most sense because they have
Stefanski, who, you know, might actually be able to coax
something out of Kirk Cousins at this point, even though that's
obviously going to be tricky to do.
Maybe Kirk Cousins is the most likely week 1 starter for the
Browns and they just haven't arrived there yet.
I do. I do want to say of all the
potential multiverses, I think Rodgers signing with the Vikings
is the least likely. Actually, I disagree with the
market pretty strongly on that. There's been no indication
outside of like a couple tweets from guys who I don't really
think would know about Rogers to Minnesota.
But like, I mean, they they kicked like Sam Darnold was gone
like quick like there was there was not even really Hemming or
hawing. If if you want a bridge
quarterback, wouldn't you rather just go with the guy who just
won 14 games then bring in this like melodramatic guy who's not
even good anymore? It's a horrible idea.
I think too like and if we don't have crack rock telling us this,
don't don't bet on it happening with Minnesota.
I mean, we don't we don't have crack rock padded on the on the
Rogers, the mini idea, then forget about it.
It's not happening. We also arefasan has also talked
about how they really are high on JJ McCarthy.
So it, it feels like maybe there's a number at which Rogers
would be like, well, fuck it, let's try it.
And then maybe that number is out there.
I I mean, that's total speculation from me, but it's
not. Just a.
Just if they wanted Rogers, the the report like Rogers clearly
has put out, I would like to play for the Vikings.
So if they wanted him, they could go get him today and it'd
be done. So they they must not want.
That. That's right.
What? What an awful idea.
Why? Why would you even think about
this if you're in Minnesota? I don't know.
All these other ideas make more sense, so.
I really don't know. I can't think of a quarterback I
would be less confident would be a good backup than Aaron
Rodgers. I know got.
To be got to be Of all 96 quarterbacks on an NFL roster,
he would be by far the worst as. A backup.
I'd rather have a Trey Lance as my backup.
I'd, I mean, I'd rather be like, all right, we're trading 9 picks
for Joe Burrow and he's our backup.
Like he would be less of a Dick and less of a poison to the
whole organization. I mean, true.
I will say this. If Minnesota does do this with
the idea that Rogers will be a bridge or be a mentor or it will
somehow be positive for JJ McCarthy's development, they are
basically the dumbest people alive and, and should be laughed
at. And when they, you know,
basically curse their organization for another 10
years doing this like we should all be like, yeah, it, it it was
clearly obvious that this was a bad idea.
The only worst idea, maybe because it's Minnesota, is
Cousins. But you know, just of course
that would never happen. That's even a better idea.
That's a better idea. That's a way better idea.
Bringing him back and having that in your in on your
Wednesday media sessions. Is Kirk Cousins in the
background if Arthy doesn't? For for all the thing about
Kirk, Kirk is seems to be like a a nice person.
He like when things went bad for him in Atlanta last year, he
wasn't like, can't believe they benched me.
Michael Pannick's isn't ready. He just like got.
He just did at his. Job, by the way, I don't know
that they have the belief set here might be pretty similar
between Kirk Cousins and Aaron Rodgers.
So it's really I think it just is a credit to Kirk Cousins, the
human. Yes, definitely.
He's a better person to have in your building.
I think by, you know, all the evidence that we have sitting
here. That Netflix show really changed
his his image cousins like he he was not this four years ago.
He was the guy, you know, all, all the all the, all the
different moments and cousin's career and the big ego and the
digs leaves. And then that Netflix thing
comes out with Mahomes in it, right?
And Mariota and everybody sort of really liked cousins from
that. So it's really changed I.
Don't I don't really like him. Like I think he's just like,
whatever, a total milquetoast guy.
But I just, I'm saying he's definitely, you know what,
Russell Wilson would literally be a better backup quarterback
than Rogers. And he kind of has the same
melodramatic make it about me thing.
And even he would still be. Russell would be easily better
backup than Rogers. I, I mean, I'd like, I, I really
do struggle to think of a single quarterback who'd be a worse
backup. Yeah, we agree.
Next up is the 2 Colt quarterbacks Indianapolis brings
in Daniel Jones. We talked about this for a
minute. Jacob apparently is not worried
about Richardson or not, not expecting anyway Richardson to
make it. Yeah, he is.
He is worried about Richardson but therefore not worried about
the pass catchers because we're going to get Daniel Jones to
close the year. Well, this was.
They had they had to sign a quarterback that Richardson
could theoretically beat in a quarterback battle while also
not leaving them completely stone dead if they decide like,
look, it's not happening. And so so he can clearly beat
Daniel Jones in a quarterback competition because Daniel Jones
is bad. But if the season just goes
totally sideways, you can like maybe scrape nine wins together
with Daniel Jones as you're like, Daniel Jones is bad and
worse than Richardson, but it's not like going to Jordan Travis
or Sam Ellinger or or whatever. Like it's not just waiting a
total white flag on your season. Yeah, I think that it's if they
go to Daniel Jones, it will be a big boost for Josh Downs because
Daniel Jones, he can be, you know, he's much more, much,
much, much more accurate than Anthony Richardson.
They'll they'll probably have him run.
So like the offense won't be a disaster, but it is going to end
in everyone getting fired. Like I, I don't think that
there's a path to selling like the second Daniel Jones gets in
there, Richardson will go down as a mega bust and you're not
going to win 9 games with Daniel Jones.
You're going to miss the playoffs and everyone's getting
fired. I think so, you know, I don't
know, I got, I kind of get the move from their perspective, but
just feels like it kind of cements their.
Well, their the other thing is you can also keep the offense
the same. Like, you know when they would
have to go to Flacco, it'd be like, OK, we're literally
running completely different stuff.
We have to change the game. Yeah, that's true.
You could. I mean Daniel Jones is a bad
deep ball passer, like not not in the same degree as Richard so
you could basically run the same stuff.
I would say this is Steiken. What what Steiken could be doing
is saying I got to save my reputation as an OC.
Let me let me get Daniel Jones in here.
And obviously he's trying to keep his actual job, but like,
this is good for his OC chances going forward because you can,
Daniel Jones allows you to show like what I was trying to do,
it's not going to work, but like, I can get something out of
him to close the year. Where you go, OK, I I think
maybe Richardson was making this, this guy look worse than
he was. We're not giving him a head
coaching job, but he can go BRSC somewhere.
It was always a tough needle to thread Indianapolis with having
Flacco be there before, and they wanted competition, but Darnold
was too successful last year. If you brought him in, you
wouldn't need Richardson. So this is like, I don't know
how many other guys as there were available that fit like
right in that pocket or somebody that, you know, represents
enough credibility as somebody to compete for the starting job,
but not just come in and steal it or either not be somebody
capable of it at all. Like you couldn't even make the
argument. I think fields was fields was
their answer. And again, I am a Fields guy,
but Fields would have given you the oh, yeah, he's I mean, he he
couldn't beat out Russell Wilson.
He's our backup. But like really, you're hoping
he's your starter. He he soundly beats out
Richardson and camp and you basically you're like, we're
going to get nine wins out of Justin Fields, which to me feels
like something you want it. It's like in the Stiken system
is more realistic because he you are actually using him as a dual
threat playing to his strengths like Justin Fields running the
offense they're trying to have Anthony Richardson run.
I think would would work. Now it doesn't work like
amazing, but you could. I think you could get 9.
Wins out of that. I'd rather call you get.
Nine wins out of that than Daniel Jones.
Colts plan should have been Richardson Fields Mill Row.
That is, I, I, I'll, I'll go to my, I'll go to my deathbed
saying that 2024 or 20252026 Indianapolis Colts should have
had a quarterback room of those 3 gentlemen.
Yeah, I mean, I like it. I hate it.
It's just they're too much alike.
I mean, there's there's something to that.
Yes, of course. But no, I just I think this this
works. Let's go to running backs.
We haven't talked about Carolina at all yet, really, maybe all
year. But Tuba Hubbard, nice story
last season. Of course, the Brooks injury
opens things up all the way for him, and he paid off Rico
Dowdell there. Now on this chart you see the
dotted line between Hubbard and Dowdell.
What does that move do for you guys?
It feels like Tuba's falling, and that feels great when you're
sitting in the fifth round and need a running back because
Tuba's there now. I, I think in this running back
class, we just don't if you're, if you have Chuba, you just
don't want them to take a running back, right?
Like that's and they have Chuba signed.
They shouldn't right? They, they really shouldn't.
You get, you get Rico Dowdle brought in $6.2 million, which
is, you know, not nothing and will probably mix in you've
Jonathan Brooks. You know, you can't count on
anything from him. They cut Miles Sanders, but like
it's possible that Rico's just like this, the one for one
replacement for Miles Sanders and you just have like Chuba is
the lead back and they don't draft someone now.
So I'm kind of into Chuba. I think it, I was going to say,
I think if you're a big Chuba bowl, this is better than Damian
Martinez or Burchard's like someone with like some juice or
whatever, because Hubbard is clearly like, I think Hubbard is
just like a good NFL. Running.
Back these numbers. Last year were awesome.
Yeah, you just kind of have to hope that Bryce Young continues
on this developmental curve. Like if Bryce Young takes a real
progression and the offense is just not as good, then you know,
it's fine. And I kind of I started out
lower on Hubbard because my read of the situation was the
Panthers clearly view running back as a position to solve,
right? Because they take Brooks after
getting that season out of Hubbard, like a very
unexpectedly, they still took Brooks with the shaky knee and
everything. Now I think they're just like,
OK, well, Brooks is we're just never going to like he's just
never going to play for us. Really tore the same ACL twice.
So I was worried that, oh, running back is a position we
have to solve. We're taking Amory and Hampton.
We're taking Caleb Johnson, we're taking Quin, Sean Judkins
or whoever. I think this probably means
they're not going to do that. Like, I think they're just like,
this is our backfield, so it's good for Hubbard.
I think. When do you think Hubbard hits
free agency? What year is he a unrestricted
free agent? Probably next year, right?
I I. 2029. Yeah, they signed him.
Well, when's when's the out on his deal?
Though the out is after this year but cap hit of 6.3 million
next year which is what they're paying Rico Dowdle.
So probably keep him at that price.
And then you only save 2,000,000 by cutting him 9 million the
year after. Save 6,000,000 by cutting him in
2028. They paid him during the season,
right? He's not.
During the season, I. I'll say this they.
Paid him during the season. He's not going to be on the
Panthers in 2027. Or or.
I think he easily could. Be on the Panthers in 2027 at a
$9 million price tag. I don't it's not that much,
especially with the cap going up. 2028 year old Chuba Hubbard,
it just feels like these guys these guys never see that year
like remember when Josh Jacobs deal got reported and then
basically it was just oh this is just a sequence of one year
deals and then the Packers can get out of it whenever they.
That's what it. Looks like to me.
Isn't the point though that like about their commitment to him as
as their planning going forward and what that should mean for
his volume this year? Which is all good.
Yes, yes, yes. And and this deal was signed.
So I, I agree, Davis, about everything the Panthers were
doing before last season, but in season they're like, well, we
think we've, we figured out one part of this, which is that we
would like to have Chuba Hubbard on our roster at a decent price
tag for potentially for the next 5 years.
Right. They have no reason to do it
then, right? Yeah, let's, let's make sure
because I like this contract like it's a, it's a $5.7 million
cap hit this year, 6.3 the next year, 9 the year after, 10 the
year after that. You probably get out of the 10
year you save 9 million or 8 and a half million by cutting then
it's more like 9. But the years before that, it's
like, I don't know, is that kind of what a backup running back or
a not true backup, but like a guy in a committee is going to
be worth like maybe, you know, it's not like there's money.
He's probably undervalued in dynasty the way you're laying
this out. Yeah, I, I, I think they could
base their long term plan could be like not necessarily to feed
this guy, but that we have found a guy who is very solidly
capable of being in the mix for us and a really a really good
backup at worst for a long time. And so I don't know that they're
like, we got to solve running back.
We got to solve running back, you know, like that this
contract is like one year like we found a guy, we found a guy,
we would like him around for a while.
So I, I don't think that they are, you know, out of the
running back business in the in day three, but I at this point
would be. Surprised.
Well, no, no team is out of like teams will just you know the.
Early day three, let's say round four, round five, yeah, but but
I would be surprised if they take a guy day 2 at this point
with the Rico contract as well. Like Rico was good last year.
They get him at a good at a good price tag.
They they still have Jonathan Brooks as as a potential like
late season upside thing. No.
Yeah, you bring him in and you get a little juice up.
Not for us. I'm not drafting him, no.
Brooks is not playing this year. I think they've already said
that. OK, OK.
All right. That's probably right.
Let me, let me double because I think he had to have another
surgery. I'm going to I'm going to pull
up his rotoworld.com. Well, we don't know, but he
shouldn't play. There's just really no reason to
make that happen. Yeah, yeah, he players, players
do play, but the The Athletics Joseph Person writes that
Jonathan Brooks is likely to miss most of.
All Yeah, yeah, fair enough. So they're not counting on
anything. But I don't know that you're
going to bring in like, you know, RJ Harvey, 'cause you,
'cause you don't. Count on no, no, no.
It would be like. It would be like, I don't know.
Marcus Yarnis. Marcus Yarns, yeah, Round round
7, Marcus Yarns. He surprisingly makes the team
and is like their kick returner or something.
So he's active on game day, Pat active on game day.
That's our, that's our, that's our favorite thing.
I, I want to talk about, to be clear, I, I do think Brooks is
like not in the player pool. That's.
I. I want to talk about Jordan
Mason because I think this is another thing where ADP inertia
comes in. Think if we all got wiped clean
and redid it right now he would be in the Charbonnay tier of of
guys. Like a clear clear stand alone
value option with giga mega contingent and is probably of
all backfields in the NFL, least likely to get competition in the
NFL draft because the Vikings still only have 4 picks.
Yeah, Mason's a smash right now. Mason's a smash, yeah.
Another guy that did well by having a good game against the
team that wanted him. Oh yes, Arnold killed.
He killed. Yes, he killed the Vikings.
That's so true. Made a good impression.
We need we need so we we're good at the revenge game stuff,
right? That's like fully baked in.
But what we need unrestricted free agent going against an
offense. They could use a running back
next year. That's the new that's the
narrative I want us to get to in DFS.
Like this guy. This guy needs to impress.
This is a job interview game. He doesn't.
Know it game here. He doesn't know it, but right
now he's actually applying for a job.
Maybe he does know it. Maybe he does know it.
Yeah, he's running backs. They should catch on like dude,
Jordan Mason got, Yeah, they traded for this guy.
He was. He wasn't even an unrestricted
free agent yet. In a way, that's how everybody
plays every week, right? Like just so there's this.
Comment about San Francisco being a better spot than
Minnesota. I mean this is like the worst
reading of a situation I can imagine.
The 1st is no guarantee that he was even the running back too.
In San Francisco. Dorindo played well enough.
Also, famously, I don't, I don't believe the 49ers with Shanahan
have ever not drafted a running back.
I believe every year they've at least drafted 1 and I believe in
over half of the drafts they've taken a running back before day
three. So you're not safe there at all.
The other thing is when McCaffrey has been healthy,
there has not been enough touches for any second running
back at all. Kyle Yuzchek re signed, he plays
third downs. Third downs are not available
for a second running back on the team.
It, it, it, it is unbelievable how bad actually the San
Francisco spot is for. Tuesday at 100 is like,
perfectly. On brand for them.
If you're doing mock drafts, just go ahead, just put that you
could just put that in right now.
I I believe that the the stat is he averaged 7.8 yards per carry
on outside zone runs, which is the I mean it's basically the
49ers run. There's also there's also a fair
chance that the team is way worse.
I mean, they're, there's, what is it?
They're negative $259 million in free agency, Netspend, in terms
of money they've saved and money that has gone out like players
that are not on their team side to another team.
Age. Yeah, yeah, but 49ers fans, the
number 2 rolls never save. I I do think that this is cause
yeah, Garrendo. Is like the least safe running
back to in the world. Yeah, they're the reason is
because it's called the NFL draft and you know, it could be
quite bad for him. Minnesota, it was always like
kind of weird, like how are they going to get their running back?
Because they don't, they don't have 4 picks in the whole draft
like you said, and one of them's in the first round where they're
not going to take a running back.
So it's like my brother's a Vikings fan.
He was like, I hope we trade down and then like use the pick
we get by trading down to draft a running back, you know?
This is just I'm just doing some historical 49ers research here.
This was the 2020, so the COVID year 49ers backfield.
This was the final Jimmy G season.
Jeff Wilson, Junior Raheem Moser, Jerich McKinnon, Jim
Michael Hastie, Tevin Coleman, All with more than 30 rushes.
I mean, just like if you think your running back too is safe
there, then look at the backfield the next year.
The 20. 20. One the 2021 49ers had Elijah
Mitchell, Jeff Wilson, Debo they took Trey Sermon that year and
then never played him 'cause he stinks.
It's just like you. You think your running back too
is safe. Then you're about to learn a
name buddy. The 49ers of the ultimate You're
about to learn a name backfield. You know Davis Price.
Literally. And Davis Price?
Breda. Breda had just left.
Maybe by 2020. We're trying to figure out what
kind of role he would get. Yeah, it's always, I mean.
This we just we just learned Patrick Taylor's name last year.
Like we, they truly teach us names every year.
The the famous example is Joe Williams, who who Kyle Shanahan
is like obsessed with, like can't like sleep because he's
thinking about Joe Williams. And then Joe Williams, they
trade up for him and he literally never plays.
Do you think that like it is, is John Lynch like, hey, Kyle,
maybe let's work these guys out before we draft them next time?
You, you seem to make up your mind pretty quick.
Can we get, if we extend the workout 30 minutes, do we not
have to draft TDP again? Like what's going on?
Or Trey Lance at pick 3. Well, Mac Jones, he finally that
I mean you want to talk about the, the, the loop, the loop
being closed. I mean, Mac Jones, who Kyle
wanted originally, is now a 49er.
Should we should we discount Brock Purdy because they're
they're going to start Mac Jones now if.
You got. If you gave me enough truth
theorem, I think you could get me there.
I could just get you wasted on truth serum.
Finally about to pass out like Mac Jones is going to start from
40. Niners Mac Jones is starting.
Week 3 for the. 49ers. Rock Birdie not getting his
contract extension because Kyle finally got back Jones.
Wide receiver slide. All right, let me get it.
We we see Godwin here and McMillan, who we talked about
already. Cooper Cup to Seattle, JSN
looking good in the what? Late second, early third round.
Puka and Adams. Up and JSN together is like it's
like the spider man pointing me but like a shitty version of it
where one of them is like in the spider man costume but doesn't
have the powers. Like didn't get bit by the
radioactive spider. He just has the costume on that
is Cooper Cup at this stage in his career.
I know it's kind of dangerous that we don't want to, like,
think about what you know, could happen or is likely to happen is
like the only thing that can happen.
And it's possible that Seattle's really good this year.
But if you think about the teams that are like most likely to
completely implode and like functionally like not be teams
this year, Seattle, I mean, the Colts are probably like the
number one, but Seattle is very high on the list, especially
like teams that, you know, aren't completely in the in the
wilderness right now. A quarterback like teams that
like functionally look like they have it together on paper.
This Sam Darnold deal being like a basically a one year deal they
can get out of they get rid of Metcalf.
They're they they signed Cooper Cup is a you know, like you're
saying, just kind of like a mirror image of JSN.
It doesn't feel that the offensive line is still a
problem like this. The offensive line was a problem
when they had Geno Smith who gets the ball out really
quickly. Now they have Sam Darnold who's
super, super pressure sensitive like this.
This really feels like it could be an implosion type of type of
season where it like like clean house, you know, after after the
season, the downs, I don't know, it's just like, and part of it
is the the Darnold's, the Darnold Digeno switch.
Like I, I don't love that. I really don't.
And this is my. Fully committed to it.
You know, it's like they're, they're kind of like, well,
let's see if it works and if not, we can cut them.
This is my Jackson Dart team. I think they kind of know.
It's this. It's this or the Steelers?
That that would make a lot more sense, like their offseason
would start to feel a lot more coherent if they if they did
Jackson Dart, Yeah. If if they internally have been
like he's going to be there when we pick, we like him.
Darnold is the bridge quarterback because I think the
way the Darnold contract works is it's effectively cascading
one year deals where they can just choose to opt out of it
whenever. Yeah.
Although I think it's sort of like like the Daniel Jones
contract from the year before where like they need.
Massive injury guarantees. Yeah.
And they they can get out. Yeah, he's got a passive
physical for them to get out. And that's where I think like
when I start to get like like really nervous about the way the
end of season Seahawks could look, it's because they'd like
they've missed the playoffs and now they're actually
incentivized to move on from darn old, which means benching
him for who Sam Howell. If it's Sam Howell, like I just
I don't want I saw that last year.
I don't want that like and it's a terrible fit for both JSN and
Cooper Cup. Like if you're going to have
Howell, at least give him a Terry McLaren or something that
can run down feel like it's. If they have to start, the next
slide is Seahawks. By the way, Pat, while you're
talking about this. If if you have Jackson Dart as
the guy you potentially bench Darnold for, then that makes me
sleep a lot better at night because you you start to think
about the end of the season looking more like, you know,
panics with the Falcons. And it's like, oh, this is
actually kind of promising right now.
So yeah, it. These are not great numbers on
cup to say the least. Like no, the the metrics last
year were not kind. So I don't know, Sam.
Sam, how it would be good for MVS?
What do you? Yeah, I I think this is the
Jackson Dart team. And frankly, the combination of
basically like this trade Geno to the Raiders and then signing
Darnold, that got me to stop drafting Jackson Dart every time
because I was like, well, that basically knocked out two spots
for him to start 17 games because the Raiders would have
been an option. The Seahawks would have been an
option. And and so, well, I guess he
would have been the bridge in Seattle still, but it knocked
out it effectively kind of knocked out a spot and 1/2 for
him. You could have seen him going in
for Gino at some point in Seattle, but not in Vegas and
not for Darnold. It's different.
Yeah, exactly. As we close on the previous
slide, sorry Pat, there are two names or I wanted to bring up
quickly, Stefan Diggs and Keenan Allen.
Yesterday I woke up to, oh, Stefan Diggs reposted all his
Buffalo pictures on his social media.
So we spent 5 seconds on is there any chance?
And everybody seemed to think there's no chance of, of Diggs
being brought back here. Keenan Allen just kind of sits
out there and didn't, if I'm not wrong, didn't drop off like cup
last year for the Bears. I mean, what's productive is you
guys see him as maybe a value or though is it too late to think
that he could actually land somewhere that we like?
I think he kind of needs to resign with Chicago.
Yeah, unsigned on March 18th. It better be Chicago, because if
it's not Chicago, it means no one really wants him.
Yeah, well, no one really wants him, but I think at least
Chicago you'd have, you know, the the consistency with the
quarterback. New England.
I mean, literally like anyone on New England would be.
So you would have such a the ability to consolidate targets
that you'd have to kind of like leave the the light on.
But yeah, outside of New England, it's it's not OK.
I'm drafting Diane Brown at the end of Drafts Jacksonville.
Good money. I'm drafting Nick Westbrook,
Akini a little bit also in the last round for Miami.
No Nick Westbrook Akeen for me. I'm thinking a little bit of
Diami. Well, as you would say, stay
poor, get get used to staying poor.
Yeah, I mean, Nick Westbrook, Akeen's 29 years old.
He has just like, I mean, he, he did score touchdowns last year.
Yeah, I'm, I'm, I have a hard time getting excited about it.
Yeah. I mean, Jalen Waddle couldn't
put up numbers in this offense last year.
Elijah Moore I I am surprised Elijah Moore is unsigned.
Actually, I, I kind of thought he would like, I thought he
would be in the 1st wave of free agency.
So I also am not taking him. Westbrook Air.
Shade. For just quickly Westbrook,
Keene might be a name for your contingent value receiver
thought earlier Davis when we're talking about McMillan with
Tyreek's age, I don't know, maybe there's something possible
there. Yeah, yeah.
It's just I, I think Malik Washington is better than him.
So it's hard for me to move off that prior.
Yeah, I don't know. I just that that's not an
offense where I really want to be invested in ancillary pieces,
especially, you know, a wide receiver like Jonnu and a Chan
are going to gobble up like if if Tyree Kill and Waddle aren't,
you know, getting the targets, it's going to be it's going to
be the running back of the tight end.
I think it's just the offense is kind of already accounted for.
You know, the targets are already accounted for.
Yep. And I would feel differently if,
like Nick Westbrook, Akinen was really intriguing or something.
But he's. If he's better, he'd like it
more if he's better. Yeah.
He'd like him a little bit more if he's a little, just a little
bit better. How bearish is it for Amari
Cooper that the Patriots were like, really like what we saw
out of this bill's wide receiver?
Let's bring him in. And they meant Mac Collins.
That that seems bad to me. Yeah, you know, Cooper isn't
even on here. Jacob mentioned the Matthew
Berry thing and there was a Bill source who said who you know,
implied that they thought Cooper was done cooked.
Yeah. Super cooked.
And so we've talked about like, who that source probably is.
I would guess it's the GMI don't know, but like, who's a bill
source, right? It's not going to be an
assistant trainer. It's going to be somebody high
up that he can't name. It's probably, you know, there's
a reason why he wasn't or hasn't been brought back at least.
Cooper. Yeah.
All right. How are we liking Tuesday
mornings? It's great for me.
Good. Yeah.
I I love a Tuesday morning. Works well.
I like it. I got through the the cold brew.
The cold brew wasn't necessary, but you know, I can keep, I can
keep throwing some some coffee into water.
It's easy enough. Yeah, we get the coffee pours
going. You watered it down with water,
coffee, not you can just put ice cubes in it.
Well, look, I mean, when you So what I do is I take like half a
bag of grounds and I throw it into water for a few days and
the water to grounds ratio is such that when it comes out it's
oil. You know, it's literal like
I've, I've I've struck oil. It starts spurting everywhere.
You know you capture it in the in the in the flask.
I I just make it. You got to cut it with water.
It will. Your heart will explode.
I I just make it in the French press.
I just put like 4 tablespoons in the French press and just yeah,
yeah, yeah. I like every morning like I
finish my coffee at like 10:00 AM or whatever and then I but
you just. Refill it up.
You're not making cold brew in the French press, you're making
a French press hot cup of coffee.
Right. No, no, I'm sitting in the
refrigerator for 20 hours or whatever.
Oh and then so it just the grounds just sit there and then
I French press it. That's a good idea.
I haven't thought. I haven't thought of that in.
The morning. No, it's, it's, it's great and
it's not as concentrated. I can't even comprehend cold
coffee. I guess maybe I could try it.
That's that's how we know there's here's the age divide.
This is one of the first times the age divide is.
Really, I think, I think when I was your age, I'd never even
tried coffee at all. It wasn't until my kids came to
America, yet it was still. Making it still it was.
Still, it was still making its way up.
I never. You would.
I was never. These coffee.
Beans I was never even tempted to drink coffee it's making.
Its way up from the West Indies when you were young.
OK, I'm I'm that notes. You had a caravan of goods that
you were hoping to trade for coffee.
That's fair, that's fair. We'll end it under.
That's fair. Great to have Jacob Sanderson
with us at Davis. What are you doing this week?
More the same. Swell cast right after this that
I'm doing March Madness with Alex Harden from ETR this
afternoon on on my channel. What's your favorite way to play
the tournament like Survivor? Survivor.
Survivor, I mean, I do, I'll do all the brackets.
I'm in Missouri, so I can't do like the bit like I can't join
the BIG4 money bracket contest, but I'm in, I'm in AI don't know
four or five different pools and I'll be out by Sunday.
But that Thursday and Friday, man, you're you just you're not.
You're not beating that. One winner each day.
Yes, yeah, 11 winner each day. It's the best.
Very good. Tuesdays at 10 Eastern are new
time. Great to have Jacob along for
Pat and Davis. I'm Mike.
Thanks for watching. Let me let me just say we're
we're expecting to have the the sidekick live for DraftKings in
it hopefully today. If not, wow, there we go look
for that and yeah, we'll be we'll have some some content up
on the site at over legendary upside this week, but.
Very good. Yeah, Thank you, guys.
Thanks to Zach, too, for all his good work.
See you next week.