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Hi there, I'm Mike Schop. 
Welcome to Sunny Buffalo and ADP

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chasing on this Tuesday, March 
18th, 2025, the day after Saint 

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Patrick's Day. 
This will hit risers and fallers

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in ADP. 
Cincinnati did the thing and 

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then some free agents still on 
the market, Pro days, Ted 

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McMillan yesterday. 
But most exciting of all, we 

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welcome a new hero to our cast. 
In Underdog Best Ball, ADP is 

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set by two separate yet equally 
important groups. 

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Streamers that set the market 
and the slappies that chase it. 

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These are their stories. 
I mean, frankly that Zach, Zach 

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is a great and creative man. 
I mean, I think that I think 

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that might be his best work. 
Zach Lennars put some respect on

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the man's. 
That's it. 

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You even. 
You even said it right. 

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Very good. 
Very good. 

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Jacob Sanderson, welcome to the 
team. 

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Happy part of the team man this 
is great. 7:00 AM West Coast 

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time. 
Pumped to be joining you guys. 

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You know. 
You got to have a clip so good 

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that we're welcoming Jacob on, 
and our first reaction is about 

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the clip in Zack and Me Fair. 
Non derogatory. 

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That's fair. 
Non derogatory. 

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That's fair. 
We know Pat's definitely on 

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board here, to say the least. 
Also starting at the 7:00 AM 

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Tuesday slot. 
Thanks Pat for shaking. 

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Combinations, of course. 
No, that really speaks for 

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itself, doesn't it? 
The this this is the Cobra I'm 

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drinking This, this is straight,
Jeff. 

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This is half water. 
This is half water right here. 

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I put water into this and it 
just never changed color. 

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Never changed color all. 
Right. 

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This actually. 
This actually works out well 

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though, Corrine, because you 
basically haven't been sleeping 

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anyways as you attempt to sleep 
train. 

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Yes, I'm disclosed members of 
your household. 

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So actually. 
It's the baby. 

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Our name is Vivian. 
It's just kind of, it's kind of.

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Awful respect on the name. 
It's a respect on the name. 

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Respect on Vivian's name. 
Yeah, we're locked in. 

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We're locked in at at 9:00 AM 
Central Time. 

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I took a road trip to Long 
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couple of summers ago for my 
son's lacrosse. 

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You know, career as it is at 
this point, it's how it feels 

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driving everywhere and listen to
the three of you guys for hours.

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I remember being stuck on the on
on a bridge in the Bronx and 

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just, you know, like, are we 
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drive? 
And then you get to New York and

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it's traffic. 
But I had you guys keep me 

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company. 
And so I've always been a Jacob 

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fan as well as you guys, as you 
know, our heroes, Patton Davis 

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and Jacob as we go forward here 
on ADP chasing very exciting. 

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I also tried to like basically 
impress Jacob last night with 

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like, oh, I know this guy and 
this guy. 

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And like, let me see if I can 
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let me see if I can get Dave 
Hodge and these other people, 

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you know, Canadian legends and 
broadcasting didn't didn't quite

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get there, you know, by today, 
Jacob, But you know, going 

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forward, hopefully. 
I mean, we need Peter Mansbridge

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up in this House. 
It's true. 

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Truly, Truly would be an honor. 
Thank you, Mike. 

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You're all. 
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into puck chasing. 
Eventually. 

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It'll be we'll be doing puck 
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I don't think I'll be waking up 
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That never chase the puck. 
Go where it's already where it's

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going or something. 
Game game where the puck is 

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already going the. 
Puck's going to the to my bed, I

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think. 
Well, as it is somewhat of a new

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day for ADP chasing here here we
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I don't know wasn't wasn't my 
idea, but a a previous legend in

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ADP chasing lore with with Sam 
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the years. 
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Cincinnati with Jamar Chase at 
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yesterday in Buffalo. 
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almost amazing Jacob that would 
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It doesn't have to be it doesn't
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But here I have a team that I 
root for that kind of like never

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does that. 
I've got guys who've I've gone 

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to the Super Bowl with and for 
forever I've kind of been 

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feeling like this always gets 
away from me, that these guys 

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are my favorite guys. 
My best guys are going to leave 

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anyway, but in this case it 
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I mean, I think it's a good 
call, not just from a fanservice

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perspective, but I think it's 
the right football move. 

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Like, I'm not saying that it 
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to construct a Super Bowl 
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And I think that the Bengals are
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but T again, is a super valuable
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You're you're never going to be 
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agency. 
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should have converted that money
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a false choice. 
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actually do is not go get the T 
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defensive line or a corner or 
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You can sign 2 average starters 
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those positions, but you're not 
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player of those positions. 
So to me, you have a 26 year old

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stud that plays an important 
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then you just have to backfill 
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the draft in a way that you 
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So you have to get creative 
restructuring contracts to build

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a cap around them anyways. 
But that to me is like the table

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stakes. 
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get better by jettisoning 26 
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important positions. 
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because some of the reaction 
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they should they sign both? 
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really do this. 
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you get the number one receiver 
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really should be an edge rusher.
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rusher. 
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critique that they prioritized 
him over Hendrickson, but it's 

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like. 
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going to be bad anyways. 
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have to be the lone dissenting 
Joe Burrow person because no one

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else has the strength of 
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put the name on these takes. 
I mean, I don't know if you want

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to go through the experience of 
sticking Joe Burrow out there 

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with one good player and a bunch
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Like I don't know if you want 
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Yoshi, Vas, Mike Gesicki, 
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Well, I mean, I don't think 
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Burrow. 
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So you know 2 awesome weapons is
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one. 
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weapons, he's awesome. 
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Hendrickson stuff aside, like I 
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sense to bring them back and 
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your team. 
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around Joe Burrow in the offense
and now they have T Higgins and 

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Jamar Chase locked up now. 
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that they waited so long to do 
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had to. 
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credit this correctly, but I did
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literally might have even been 
Jacobs. 

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Someone do the tweet yesterday 
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Bengals cost themselves by not 
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were first possible. 
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themselves 2 average starters, 
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You know, about about like about
$30 million against, against the

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cap cumulatively. 
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they do this? 
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this. 
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They hate to sign these 
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frankly, the Bengals were 
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banged up considerably this 
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hamstring and was willing to 
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something. 
That is probably in their heart 

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of hearts what they were hoping.
Tough seat. 

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Yeah, no, I think you're right. 
I think you're right because, I 

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mean, they basically just 
procrastinated until they got 

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forced into the obvious. 
Like they this is a really easy 

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1 to get out in front of. 
Like you draft Chase was awesome

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right away. 
Like you should, you should have

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been planning for that contract 
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And you know, he's, he literally
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they were amazing together like 
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None of this should have been 
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T Higgins. 
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the Bengals, right, because it's
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thing, but they did it in the 
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And I don't expect them to do 
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They're like back up my stance 
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It's not like like I don't want 
to be backing myself into a 

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corner where I'm like, the 
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Super Bowl. 
It's like, no, I think they're 

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still the Bengals, but I think 
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T Higgins. 
The third highest paid wide 

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receiver in the NFL. 
Had they got this deal done 

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before, he could probably be 
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receiver in the NFL had they 
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What was his first time in the. 
Game, I mean, the reporting is 

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he would have accepted the 
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got like over a year ago. 
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They were drafted back-to-back 
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and he would have accepted the 
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they'd done it like over a year 
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Right. 
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Well, this is maybe the 
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away with it. 
I mean, the the points, the 

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points are indisputable. 
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like we've talked about it on 
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are throwing the money and we'll
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It's one of the takeaways from 
Philadelphia is how they pushed 

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everything to 2029 and had the 
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won it. 
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defense was bad. 
They got to 9 and eight. 

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Think about their season. 
I mean, they lose to New England

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in Week 1. 
There's no excuse for that. 

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But they lose to the Chiefs. 
Davis by a point in week two. 

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I mean, it's so crazy. 
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The Chiefs were lucky to get out
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They lose the game to Washington
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Mclaurin pass on the Monday 
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To the Ravens. 
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1 is a missed field goal in 
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beats them in Cincinnati. 
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and forth, 3534, a 2 point 
plate. 

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I mean, yesterday I got a call 
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Would you rather be the Bills or
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I, I think it's really close. 
I mean, I love what Cincinnati 

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has in these three guys. 
Defense comes and goes, 

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fluctuates wildly and they're 
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I think a lot of the AFC was 
hoping that this would implode 

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and it didn't. 
I'm not. 

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I'd rather be the Bills. 
I'd rather be the Bills. 

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Yeah, you know, that's easy. 
For all of you, it's. 

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Easy. 
But I mean, last year we're 

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looking at like playoff stuff. 
And I mean, it was just so clear

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that like if the Bengals get in,
like this is a dangerous team. 

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Like you do not want to see the 
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AFC teams. 
It's like, you know, police give

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me the Steelers or, or whatever.
It's just very hard to win when 

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you have like a bottom 5 defense
because it basically like you 

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get to the playoffs and teams 
are just, I mean, it's just what

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teams did to them. 
Teams just abuse them. 

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Like a good team against them 
was like, well, we're just going

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to get 30 and we're not even 
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And then it forces Burrow to be 
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himself. 
Like Burrow does not have the 

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luxury of like Mahomes just like
randomly forgetting how to play 

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football for quarters at a time.
Like if that happened to the if,

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if Joe Burrow did what Mahomes 
did last season and just was 

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like the 15th best quarterback 
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be like, I mean, they I don't 
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a game if he had done what we're
what Mahomes did on the 

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playoffs. 
I don't. 

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Know if we're gonna win a game? 
Yeah. 

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I mean, but we've seen teams do 
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I mean, the Chiefs did this. 
They they got, you know, 

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everything squared away with 
Mahomes and then they go figure.

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Out the. 
Defense, they go figure out the 

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defense. 
So it's not that they don't need

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to improve the defense, but they
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Like to to Jacob's point, like 
now they just have to draft 

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well, which is what every team 
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Like if you can't just you miss 
the playoffs and then you lock 

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up your stars on offense like. 
You're going to have to draft 

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well and and one bad draft year,
like a year if you don't get 

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like let's just say the Bengals 
just for whatever reason this 

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year, they just suck a draft. 
They don't get a starter either 

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side of the ball really. 
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is a starter, but then no one 
else can start. 

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I mean, Mike, you've seen this 
with the Bills. 

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Look how brutal it was for Elam 
and Kincaid and Coleman to just 

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be huge misses. 
Like it just puts you in a spot 

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where you're like, well, shit, I
guess we're what what was the 

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guy's when the the cornerback 
got hurt for the game against 

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the Chiefs? 
What's his name? 

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Benson. 
Christian Benford, who was 

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picked late in that same draft 
as Elam, so they got away with 

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that because Benford was is 
excellent. 

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means like, will we lose? 
Like if you if you play that 

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game again and Benford, you play
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plays, I would not be surprised.
Every Chiefs play was targeting.

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Tire Elam, Yeah, yeah. 
Who has since been traded to 

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Dallas. 
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the week before against 
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They had him out there against 
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it. 
He's up for a big contract just 

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on Higgins before we move on. 
Pat first wide receiver, 14. 

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Is he a future riser? 
Faller. 

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I can't imagine he'd be a 
faller. 

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What? 
What changes here? 

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Anything. 
Do we assume he was going back? 

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I really didn't, but I still 
like picking him. 

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I I think he should be like a 
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he never really fell when he got
franchise stags and there was 

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highest ceiling outcomes were 
that he left and went somewhere 

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where he was just going to get 
like fed targets. 

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He's a number. 
He's a number one guy in my 

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mind, you know, if he's not in 
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So, you know, you could dream on
stuff that wasn't never very 

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likely, but like it, you know, 
it opened up some ceiling if he 

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were to go and just get and get 
peppered targets. 

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Obviously he can pay off at an 
early third round ADP, but on 

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the Bengals, but I don't know. 
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move up like we this has been 
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And if anything, I feel like he 
he never really fell from the 

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from the jump. 
I'm not sure you should fall 

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like I I think this is maybe 
it's not like the best spot, but

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I I think it's better than most 
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The yeah it is. 
Projects to be like, you know, 

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you're with probably probably 
the best fantasy supporting 

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quarterback in the league in 
borough. 

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You're you have insane 
contingent value at all times if

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Javar Chase ever gets hurt and 
even with Chase playing, he's 

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shown that he has one of the 
highest ceilings in the whole 

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league. 
And like the way that, you know,

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the game that we play T Higgins 
is really well suited where he's

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going to have fewer, you know, 
12.4 weeks then most wide 

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receivers probably in this 
range. 

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But like he'll have a higher 
rate of hitting 303540 and that 

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that's perfect. 
You'll sign up for that every 

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time. 
So I think he's totally fine. 

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Pick where he is on the Bengals.
Yeah, I think he's fine. 

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I'm not really fading him, but 
it's just I, I, yeah, I don't, I

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don't see this creating upward 
trajectory either. 

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And you know, and it's always 
related to the player pool, like

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who are you going to take ahead 
of them? 

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The guys better. 
Up Higgins than JSF real I 

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think. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, yeah, I get that. 
I totally get that. 

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Davis agree. 
So the thing that I agree with 

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Pat's point that I think it 
hurts him a little bit because 

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the issue with T is if he did 
just have a bad touchdown year, 

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like let's just like he just 
had, you know, his his foot gets

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ruled out on one week 16. 
They happen to play some team 

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that's starting their backup 
quarterback. 

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So they're just up 21 zero at 
halftime. 

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Like there are scenarios where T
Higgins goes six weeks in a row 

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not contributing to your lineup 
because the volume is just not 

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there because he's like a 25% 
target share guy or 24% target 

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share guy, not a 30% target 
share guy. 

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Had he gone to, I mean, frankly,
even like, oh, I mean, the 

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Patriots obviously was the 
nutted spot. 

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But if, if, if he had gone to 
one of these teams where they're

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clear, where he clearly would 
have been 192 targets or 

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whatever penciled in that that 
takes you to a different tier of

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where it's not just about how 
efficient you can be. 

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It's about you adding the 
efficiency spikes with the 

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absurd volume. 
Yeah, it's like there was a 

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chance at the open of this 
tournament. 

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You're like this guy might be a 
12 turn guy by the end, so that 

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when you take that out of the 
range to me, like you should 

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like tick down slightly. 
But do I think like Garrett 

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Wilson with Justin Fields, like 
should definitely be going ahead

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of them. 
Like you? 

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Not really. 
Not for me. 

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Thanks. 
Well, The funny thing is, is the

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third. 
Round. 

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There's gonna be like 200 less 
targeted throws on The Jets than

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the bagels, so it's like even if
his target share is five points 

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lower, they're gonna have the 
same amount of targets. 

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The third round is being drafted
in inverse order. 

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All the best picks in the third 
round are going at the end, and 

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it's all the guys at the 
beginning are like, well, like, 

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shit, I guess I'll take Josh 
Jacobs. 

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But it's like, you know who? 
I really want DJ Moore. 

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I really want Marvin Harrison 
Junior. 

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I really want Xavier Worthy. 
I really want Mike Evans. 

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I really want Trey McBride. 
But it's like there's like this 

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residual. 
McBride should be in the second.

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I don't know. 
Devante yes, I frankly, I have a

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hard time and I assume you guys 
are going to be against me on 

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this, but saying you know who 
I'd rather have the Devante 

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Adams, Bucky Irving, You know, 
like I just like, I just like. 

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I think if we all if we all got 
memory wiped of the of the ADP 

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constructs that we've been doing
from the last three months and 

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it the tournament just dropped 
tomorrow and we were just like 

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manually reordering these 
players. 

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I think the two three turn and 
and the third round I think 

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would get shaken up. 
No need to be honest. 

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I've done I've done like 3 big 
boards. 

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I'd I'd go full sabbatical 
basically until until mid March.

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So I am this person, Davis, and 
yeah, I would I would definitely

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rather unbucky or. 
No need for me. 

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To you'd rather you'd rather 
have Bucky Urban Adams, just to 

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be clear. 
Sure. 

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Yeah, I would too. 
Yeah. 

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I I don't, I don't quite like. 
We keep doing this with the 

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Rams. 
Remember Allen Robinson? 

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Remember the training camp? 
I was a training camp. 

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Devon. 
Devon is way better than Alan 

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Robinson. 
Oh my God. 

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I was a training camp and I the 
whole offense is going to 

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revolve around Alan Robinson. 
Remember, it's I. 

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Was a full fate on a Rob. 
I'm not on that with Adams like 

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I. 
I'm not either, to be clear. 

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We have him right at a DPI, 
think he's fine, but the idea 

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that he should be up there at 
the 2-3 turn this starts to 

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starts to remind me of Alan. 
Robinson. 

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Robinson had already gotten old 
before he went to the Rams and 

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we we questioned whether he he 
was going to be age proof in 

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that offense. 
Adams really has not quite shown

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that so. 
Far, but if you go to The Jets 

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and and Aaron Rodgers is willing
to throw to you over over 

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Garrett Wilson, you'd be OK. 
But I don't. 

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I don't know he's going to find 
Allen Robinson. 

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This isn't what I'm used to. 
Allen Robinson, the year before 

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he went to the Rams, generated 
410 yards on 66 targets in 12 

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games with one touchdown. 
It's not even. 

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With the Bears. 
It's yes, it's different. 

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It's different. 
Like the whole Allen Robinson 

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thing was ridiculous. 
It was like he was one of the 

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worst wide receivers in the NFL 
and then everyone was like third

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round. 
I think it's Pat. 

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I think it's more like, what if 
Robert Woods had previously been

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the best wide receiver ever of 
all time, as opposed to Allen 

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Robinson? 
I. 

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Think did they sign Randy Moss? 
They got, they got him. 

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Well, Moss obviously is the best
ever, but Adams? 

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Adams was Jerry Rice. 
Came out of retirement. 

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I would almost believe that 
Jerry Rice would be back. 

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Jerry what? 
Where would we take Jerry Jerry 

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Rice if he signed a one year, 
$10 million deal with the Rams 

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right now? 
I wouldn't not draft him at 

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least. 
The question everyone is asking.

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Rounds, man. 
Has anyone, has anyone put their

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name on this yet? 
Just while we're doing Bucky 

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Irving, has anyone like invoked 
any of the year 1 Spike guys who

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then immediately sucked the year
after next? 

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Has anyone has anyone been brave
enough to do that yet? 

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Not sure I'm brave enough to do 
it but just wondering the. 

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Floor is yours. 
I mean, you know, a a hundred 

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186 LB guy who got injured twice
as a rookie. 

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It's this great running back 
class. 

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Like I'm just saying, I'm I'm 
pondering it. 

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I am pondering putting my name 
on that take. 

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I'm not I'm. 
Not. 

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Did you read the Matthew Berry 
article about how much they love

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Bucky Irving? 
Yeah, although that's my like, I

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like, I layer that over me at 
night and I like cuddle it. 

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The the love for Rashad White 
last year was vocal. 

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They wouldn't stop talking about
how how he was a three down 

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back. 
Now, I guess you could say it 

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took him a long time to switch 
it, but I don't. 

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Yeah, I guess it really comes 
down to if they draft somebody 

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and White in a sense is cover 
because they don't like 

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Tucker's. 
Cover Tucker. 

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Tucker's cover. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

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And Somashi P Ryan, he's pretty 
good. 

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Three years, three years, 22 
million. 

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Dollars, what was that you? 
Feel how good you feel about 

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Bucky should come into like how 
did you feel for the 20 minutes 

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that Samaj AP Ryan was a 
Buccaneer for $23 million like 

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how did that make you feel? 
I'll. 

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Tell you because we thought it 
was real so I naked Rashad white

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and. 
Fucking basically, I thought 

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Rashad White was getting cut or 
traded, but I saw that like, 

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yeah, I I was. 
I was rereading the Ian Rapoport

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update on the Rashad White 
situation tweet to try and 

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figure out if there was 
something in there. 

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I traded Rashad White for a late
3rd in Dynasty Davis. 

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When you have to make those cuts
in FFPC, it's tight. 

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It's almost like getting a you 
save another guy with it. 

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In that league you and I are in,
I traded Rashad White for a 

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first in that FFPC league, Oh my
God, last last offseason. 

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Last year, yeah, that's, that's 
crazy. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, right now I I liked what

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I got. 
But anyway, we have slides and 

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this is the first one. 
What happened here? 

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What happened here? 
That oh man. 

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What's the story here? 
I went on this I went on this 

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big long rant on the swole cast 
this last year. 

448
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:40,400
This is a this is a a graphic 
that Zach has made from my 

449
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,400
stream. 
Basically, I went I went on this

450
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,360
big long rant on the swole cast 
last year while advancing like 3

451
00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:51,240
best ball teams out of 1400 
about how I was not going to be 

452
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,320
able to do fantasy content 
anymore and have to get hired by

453
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,120
State Farm. 
So it's this is a a take on the 

454
00:22:57,120 --> 00:23:01,640
Jason light bit that Semaj P 
Rein because Jason light the 

455
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,760
Bucks GM literally quote tweeted
dove climb and right and said, 

456
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,720
no, we did not. 
We we did not tied Semaj AP 

457
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,000
right to that deal. 
If only I'd known that we could 

458
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,880
have tied those together, but 
that's really good. 

459
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,040
That is a very good bet. 
Zach is. 

460
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:18,520
Zach is. 
He's cooking today. 

461
00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:21,320
Yeah. 
Let's keep. 

462
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,160
Running risers. 
That's why you're here. 

463
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,520
ADP chasing after all Naji 
Harris, Joshua Palmer, Devante 

464
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,920
Adams, aforementioned Justin 
Fields, Devante Williams, Elijah

465
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,320
Mitchell traded to Kansas City, 
Evan Ingram now with Denver. 

466
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,880
Man, I, I'm, I'm in on Naji. 
I have been we've talked about 

467
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,800
it a few times. 
He was always I thought my guess

468
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,440
was he was going somewhere good.
I wanted it to be Minnesota 

469
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,040
originally, but Chargers is a is
pretty nice. 

470
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,320
I guess the question is whether 
they'll what up, what they'll do

471
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,480
with it. 
Is that Vidal? 

472
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,120
Is that a draft pick? 
Is that someone else? 

473
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,080
And then what kind of workload 
does he get? 

474
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,960
If it's good, I think that could
be, I mean, great value. 

475
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:06,080
You guys disagree? 
No, I mean, I this to me is like

476
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:11,560
the universe healing itself. 
Like I was touting Naji Harris 

477
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,720
on podcasts. 
Michael Dudner's writing 

478
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,280
articles about Naji Harris, one 
of the best values. 

479
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:22,000
Miss priced player, you know, 
he's we're behind ADP again. 

480
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,440
OK, we're we're just I think 
about a pick behind his ADP. 

481
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,600
You know, this this is starting 
to feel like things are kind of 

482
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,400
moving in the right direction. 
Soon enough he'll be a fade. 

483
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,560
I can talk about how he was the 
worst sixth round pick on the 

484
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:38,760
board, but there was, I mean, it
was an obvious Daniel Raz for 

485
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,240
leg up wrote a wrote an article 
about a month ago that was like 

486
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,160
looking at the landscape of, of 
the running back position and 

487
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,960
how many teams needed running 
backs. 

488
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,200
And you kind of do a quick 
exercise like who needs 

489
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,960
starters? 
And you know, how many guys are,

490
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,440
are ready to come in from the 
draft. 

491
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,680
And, and even though it's a 
great class, like it's not ten, 

492
00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:01,720
you know, and it just 
immediately take a job. 

493
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,080
So it's it's clear that at, at 
worst, Naji was probably going 

494
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,800
to end up forming a committee 
with one of those guys. 

495
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:13,320
He probably still will, but you 
now have the potential that he 

496
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,400
is like the the JK Dobbins for 
this team. 

497
00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:21,480
And I'm not a Naji guy, but you 
know he's capable of of doing 

498
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,640
that. 
He was priced great before. 

499
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,120
He was very comfy. 
You just like you take your 20% 

500
00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:31,120
and you move on. 
And now that the right wing 

501
00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:35,240
slappies have shown up, you say 
you tip your cap to them and you

502
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,760
say thank you. 
Because the The thing is, is 

503
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,680
there's this meta narrative 
like, dude, man, you know who 

504
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,280
you really want? 
You really want a Chargers 

505
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,000
running back, They're just going
to pound the ball. 

506
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,040
But the thing about these 
coaches that love to run the 

507
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,280
ball is they also are not 
interested in fantasy points or 

508
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,680
points on the board. 
Like they just want to win every

509
00:25:54,680 --> 00:26:00,680
game 19 to 13 somehow and, and 
just, and just move on. 

510
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,880
Like it would there, there would
be all these Dobbins spots. 

511
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,880
You'd be like, oh, dude, it's, 
it's it arrow up for Dobbins. 

512
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,480
Like I'm playing Dobbins this 
week on, on DraftKings. 

513
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,160
And he'd have a good game. 
He'd have 18 rushes for 92 

514
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,120
yards, 4 receptions for 16 
yards. 

515
00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:18,400
And he'd be like, oh man, he 
really almost could have been 

516
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,240
smashing. 
And then he just never would 

517
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,520
cause the team is not interested
in smashing. 

518
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,640
Yeah. 
Oh. 

519
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,760
He's like a lot of Dobbins 
games, like I had him on a main 

520
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,000
event team where I'd be watching
the game and I'd be like, I feel

521
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,280
like I'm smashing. 
But then I would look at the end

522
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,560
of the game and I would have 
10.9 PPR points. 

523
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,520
But it was like he just had 26 
carries for 109 yards. 

524
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,000
So just like it felt like I had 
forward momentum 3 yards at a 

525
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,000
time. 
Yep. 

526
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:47,200
I I do think with with Harris 
like totally agrees. 

527
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,280
Great pick at 106 really 
undervalued. 

528
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,600
I think that the landing spot I 
I saw Gretsch wrote about it and

529
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,280
I had a very similar take, which
was like the landing spot's 

530
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,280
good, but the contract is way 
worse than I thought he was 

531
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:06,120
going to get like one year 5.25 
million extensives up to 9.25 

532
00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:07,880
million. 
I thought he would have gotten 

533
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,960
something more like Aaron Jones 
contract you know 2 for 20 with 

534
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,880
13 guaranteed. 
So I as much as the landing 

535
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,320
spot's good, it it increases the
ceiling for him. 

536
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,560
I, I think it really decreases 
the floor though. 

537
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,680
Like that level of contract does
not take an early running back 

538
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,520
pick off the table. 
That's like kind of a bare 

539
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,400
minimum running back investment 
from the Chargers. 

540
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,280
So I think there's a world in 
which that running back is 

541
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,280
drafted in like round four and 
he barely plays and Harris is 

542
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,320
just the dude. 
I, I don't think it's like 

543
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,680
inconceivable the Chargers still
take a running back on, you 

544
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,320
know, round one or round two and
then by like week five, that 

545
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,320
running back is the clear leader
in the backfield. 

546
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,280
So I'm I'm gonna. 
I think that's still very, very 

547
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,080
likely. 
I mean, it's a, it's a good 

548
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,960
running back class. 
So you like part of the the when

549
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,680
I was thinking through Naji 
before, part of the reason I 

550
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:01,400
thought it was a good pick is 
that like at pick 100, this is 

551
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,560
an acceptable range to take. 
Like the Zach Charbonnet type, 

552
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,800
you know, like like really 
strong contingent value probably

553
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,520
mixes in. 
And with Harris, you get that as

554
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,680
like probably the end of the 
season if they if they end up 

555
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,440
bringing someone in. 
But early in the season, you 

556
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,760
have like a starter 1A and a 
committee type. 

557
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,360
You know, if they were even if 
they were to draft like a Quinch

558
00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:31,560
on Judkins or something like 
that, you you could have him, 

559
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,480
you could have Naji kind of 
starting the season. 

560
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,480
You also have the potential for 
them to draft like Trayvon 

561
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,120
Henderson and have it be a kind 
of a committee all year. 

562
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,120
You also have the potential for 
them to draft somebody in them 

563
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,320
not be good, you know, and then 
Naji has the backfield for for 

564
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,520
the whole season. 
So at pick 100, there's lots of 

565
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,920
different ways for you to win. 
As he moves up, you might be 

566
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,480
drafting a backup running back. 
So, you know, I just have a lot 

567
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,200
less interest. 
Maybe the tight end for Michigan

568
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,280
is too easy of a fit because of 
Harbaugh and Pick 22 Loveland. 

569
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,240
But I like that idea more. 
And then I like every idea more 

570
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,360
than a running back in the first
round, I guess. 

571
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,760
But do something different and 
then wait on running back. 

572
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,560
Then I maybe I'm I'm OK with 
with Harris. 

573
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:18,720
Well, but you yeah, you feel 
better for sure, but I just 

574
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,040
would I'd caution people with 
like this class where if they 

575
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,720
wait till round four to take a 
running back that does not save 

576
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,400
Naji for you know, if you think 
about end of season, it might it

577
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,560
might save his ADP, but think 
about. 

578
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,680
End of season What's Vidal 
anymore? 

579
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,840
Not much, but we'll always have 
that wheel route. 

580
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,160
That wheel route on the right 
sideline, I mean, beautiful. 

581
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,280
And that'll be the highlight. 
He, he, the Birmingham 

582
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,960
Stallions, I fear, are are 
calling. 

583
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:48,200
For I. 
Don't know man. 

584
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,880
It's going to be great on the 
Blue Bombers. 

585
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,800
I I was. 
Talking to I was talking to Kyle

586
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,200
Walters, our GM, and I was 
letting him know, you know, keep

587
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,720
an eye on Kumani, but they'll 
might be unemployed in the NFL 

588
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,440
soon. 
So we'll we'll have a nice 

589
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,360
bomber Suzy ready for him. 
OK. 

590
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,760
All right. 
There we go, XX Charger Joshua 

591
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,640
Palmer next on this list, 
signing with the Bills. 

592
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,360
I don't expect Palmer. 
Palmer. 

593
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:16,000
T Higgins chart or did those die
with? 

594
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,680
Sam, where's the mystery player?
That's what I was looking for. 

595
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,400
No mystery player, huh? 
Zach, come on. 

596
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,160
What's going on? 
I don't have one. 

597
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,280
You know, some some random weird
split yards per route run on, 

598
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,360
you know, slot snaps. 
Huh. 

599
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,160
Verse Verse man. 
We don't usually talk about slot

600
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,400
snaps versus man, but OK. 
I saw I saw Brett Coleman doing 

601
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,960
a tweet where it was like he was
criticizing the D Higgins 

602
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,680
signing and he had a stat by 
stat comparison with like a very

603
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,240
cherry pick set of stats between
JA Juan Jennings and D Higgins. 

604
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,280
So that was like, man, Sam lives
on man, like Sam never died. 

605
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,400
That's. 
Great. 

606
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,080
In Buffalo I I can buy that 
Palmer is a is a good fit for 

607
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,480
his skills, but I don't see it 
amounting to big numbers. 

608
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,960
Like to me he's about the same. 
I'm not drafting him. 

609
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,480
No, no, what, what, what are 
you? 

610
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,440
What are you realistically 
hoping for? 

611
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,280
For like the 4th target on the 
Buffalo Bills. 

612
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,680
You want 2024 DeMarcus Robinson,
that's what you're open. 

613
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,880
For But that's like, so not 
Palmer's game. 

614
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,680
He's like, so not a touchdown 
scorer. 

615
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,360
The the the touchdown. 
The the DeMarcus Robinson on the

616
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,240
Bills is Dawson Knox. 
Yeah, this, this is literally 

617
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,360
just like human memory. 
Like people are like, oh, right,

618
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,840
Josh Palmer. 
Josh Palmer, I drafted him. 

619
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,440
I drafted him at 1:10 last year,
so he's got to be good here, 

620
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,000
right? 
Oh, yeah. 

621
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,560
OK. 
Yeah, I could take him. 

622
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,280
That's it. 
I mean, there's I don't think 

623
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,400
there's really much and fine, 
fair enough. 

624
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:50,840
Like you're he's a, you know, 
could he be the Zay Jones when 

625
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,920
he had a spike week in the right
week on the Jags? 

626
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,680
Like, yeah, I guess he could, 
you know? 

627
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,960
I mean he had no target 
competition last season on I 

628
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,480
mean he he just got 
spectacularly dunked on by 

629
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,920
Quentin Johnston and Will 
Disley, who everyone sort of 

630
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,520
assumed was like a blocker and 
then just like ripped off a six 

631
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:17,400
week stretch where he was second
on the team in targets like Josh

632
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:22,800
Palmer is think of Josh Palmer 
the way you think of like Justin

633
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,960
Watson and Parker Washington and
the like. 

634
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,240
You know he. 
Just I drafted Parker Washington

635
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,640
last night, though, you know 
there. 

636
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,440
You go. 
As a as a nineteen 20th round 

637
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,840
pick, I think he's fine. 
We're we got him at like 2O3 on 

638
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,600
underdog. 
Not he's draftable. 

639
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,600
I I don't think taking him at 
the you know, 189 is is what I'm

640
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,000
trying to do. 
But it's not like, you know, 

641
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,640
whatever at the end of the end 
of the draft. 

642
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,280
If you have Allen absolutely. 
Now do you think Davis, that 

643
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:56,480
this is part of their plan to 
revive, to revive Dalton 

644
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,680
Kincaid, that they they saw what
he did for Will Disley? 

645
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:10,360
I think their plan, I think 
their plan is just like, I feel 

646
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,120
like the Bills decision makers 
really want Kincaid to be good. 

647
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,000
Like they really want to feel 
vindicated about that pick. 

648
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,560
So I I kind of see it, yeah. 
Hey, man, he was, he was injured

649
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,160
last year. 
People are tied in as a slow 

650
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,120
developing position. 
He was they've been they've been

651
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,080
spreading that he was injured 
last year to anyone who will 

652
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,680
listen, anyone who's like 
slightly kind of an insider of. 

653
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,640
The they did they, they did the 
same thing with Gabriel Davis 

654
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,160
the year he came off an ankle 
injury in Week 2 and played 

655
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,800
through it all season and he was
hurt. 

656
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,200
The thing they said about 
Kincaid, which is not to me 

657
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,560
encouraging, especially in these
streets, is they want him to get

658
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,120
stronger. 
They felt that late in the 

659
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,120
season he wasn't strong enough. 
They changed out their strength 

660
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,720
and conditioning coach and they 
want they want that from 

661
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,080
Kincaid. 
Sounds like they want him to be 

662
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,480
more like Knox. 
Who they? 

663
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,320
Have I don't know that. 
Is. 

664
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,480
Bulk up, buddy. 
That is, you're. 

665
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,760
Talking about Josh Palmer 
getting brought in to make 

666
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,120
Kincaid happen, they brought an 
entirely due strength and 

667
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,040
conditioning staff just because 
of this little weak link like 

668
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,199
that's that is catering to 
Dalton Kincaid. 

669
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:15,520
Like they're pulling up all the 
stops. 

670
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:18,199
You say what you want about Kyle
Pitts. 

671
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:21,000
They've never had a new strength
and conditioning coach come in 

672
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,440
to get to get him. 
They gave him to Bulk. 

673
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,159
Up. 
Well, they you. 

674
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,600
Know as far as we. 
Go The Falcons have just waved 

675
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,239
the white flag on the Kyle Pitts
experience. 

676
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,880
They're like, yeah, he's a deep 
threat tight end. 

677
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,040
It is what it is. 
We we we whiffed on the pick and

678
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,040
whatever we get out of him is a 
plus. 

679
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:42,000
But the the Kincaid stuff is 
like, you know, a dynasty 

680
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,159
manager who's like still trying 
to get the 110 for Travis Kelsey

681
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:46,520
or whatever. 
He's like, I know I should have 

682
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,360
sold him last year, but maybe I 
can get something. 

683
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,280
They just, they're, it's just 
like you can just admit you 

684
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,000
whiffed on a pick. 
Like the Chiefs benched their 

685
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,760
left tackle last year. 
They just benched him. 

686
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:58,880
They were like, this is not 
working. 

687
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,920
He's just on the bench. 
Sometimes you miss. 

688
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,440
CEH you know. 
CEH. 

689
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,000
Yeah, literally just like Damian
Williams. 

690
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,160
All right, there we go. 
They they were pretty quick on 

691
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,720
CEH. 
They honestly were, you know. 

692
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,920
They Kincaid is the bill CEH 
Yeah, that is the exact. 

693
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,080
Comparison. 
Oh. 

694
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:15,960
We actually had that in the 
comments. 

695
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,120
Yeah. 
Kincaid is the bill. 

696
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,960
CEH Boom, yeah. 
I'd like to. 

697
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:24,680
I'd like to live in the 
alternate timeline, by the way, 

698
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,960
where he never has that game 
versus USC and see where he goes

699
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,200
in the NFL draft. 
Be interesting. 

700
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,560
Didn't work out. 
Trade up for him. 

701
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,960
That's where we're at. 
Season high 52 yards and four 

702
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,080
touchdowns in two years. 52, 
yeah. 

703
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,720
Now their cornerback was a 
running back I think. 

704
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:44,840
Is that right? 
Don't mind remembering that. 

705
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,640
That's a different part of the 
lore tree. 

706
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,600
Yeah. 
But both involve Utah. 

707
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,520
Jacob, who else on this risers 
list means something to you? 

708
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,680
But I think, I think Fields has 
not risen enough. 

709
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,440
I would say, yeah, yeah, I, I 
think that's a guy that probably

710
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:11,720
should be another, another round
or two, maybe even of ADP rise. 

711
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,520
Well, let me let me ask you the.
Concept last year. 

712
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,360
He starts 17 games right? 
Well, that's the thing. 

713
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,240
We're we're like slightly ahead 
of ADP on him, but that's I'd 

714
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:27,240
like to get outside the drafts 
where like his contract does not

715
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:29,280
preclude them from drafting 
someone in like the second 

716
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,560
round. 
Well, it doesn't, but I just 

717
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,240
think like this is maybe just 
hunching, I guess, but I don't 

718
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:37,640
know. 
I look at Aaron Glenn comes over

719
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,640
from The Jets and like they had 
the chance on the Lions to draft

720
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:42,360
the guy. 
They didn't. 

721
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,960
They instead went the 
reclamation project route. 

722
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,840
I think he's sort of viewing, 
he's going to try to do the same

723
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:49,920
thing. 
He's going to build the roster 

724
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,040
up around the quarterback and 
then either Fields is going to 

725
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,880
be the reclamation project like 
golf, or he's not and they'll 

726
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,640
draft someone later. 
But I feel like this year, like 

727
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:02,360
he's there to kind of change the
culture, clean up the vibes a 

728
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,400
little bit. 
And I think they give Fields the

729
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,920
whole year. 
I think also just because 

730
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,000
there's not that many good 
quarterbacks in this draft and 

731
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,200
I, I don't think they're going 
to take like Chadur at pick 

732
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,720
seven well. 
No, they're taking Jackson Dart 

733
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:16,640
at pick seven brothers. 
They woke. 

734
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:18,480
No. 
Have you? 

735
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,280
First of all, all of a sudden 
there's movement like Todd 

736
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,640
Mcshay's putting out stuff 
saying he thinks the Browns go 

737
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,240
chadur AT2. 
Cam Ward seems like he is going 

738
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:30,600
to go #1 so like the whole. 
Hyper and Jeremiah had Chadur at

739
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,160
3:00 today, both in their mocks.
Yeah. 

740
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,280
So, so there was this period 
where the NF LS like, Nah, we're

741
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,480
not that into these 
quarterbacks. 

742
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,560
And then they looked around, 
they see the Steelers and the 

743
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:45,000
Giants like begging Aaron 
Rodgers to play for them and 

744
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,720
they're like, you know, I don't 
mind this quarterback class so 

745
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:53,400
much. 
So I think we could see now I 

746
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,840
don't, I don't think The Jets go
quarterback round one, but. 

747
00:37:57,720 --> 00:38:00,080
Have you heard? 
Have you heard the film guys 

748
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,120
talk about Tyler Shock? 
They they're in love. 

749
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,520
Oh my God, they're in love 
enough. 

750
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,160
They're in love with this guy. 
Dude, he's going second round, 

751
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,880
he's going to go second round. 
And I could see, I could see The

752
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,960
Jets being a spot. 
OK, but like he's but like then 

753
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,480
he's going to show up and 
they're going to be like, oh, 

754
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,840
like you're Christian 
Hackenberg. 

755
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,920
Like we're never playing you. 
Like he Tyler, he's what is 

756
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,640
this? 
He's like 26 years old and he 

757
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,080
like doesn't even. 
Have no, I mean, first of all, 

758
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,800
first of all, Justin Fields has 
never had a mentor. 

759
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,760
So right there you you take care
of that. 

760
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,560
Is he older than fields? 
Possibly I. 

761
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,520
Think he might be? 
No, he's definitely older than 

762
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,320
fields like maybe by maybe by 
like multiples. 

763
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,960
Multiples. 
He might be. 

764
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,560
Dog years older. 
Pat, this has been your idea to 

765
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,240
get a, a, a backup, a second 
quarterback that's a like, you 

766
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:54,880
know, style wise like the 
starter. 

767
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,280
This is Milro at pick 42. 
You could. 

768
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,320
You could. 
Don't. 

769
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,360
Take Milro. 
Fire everybody. 

770
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,840
No, I, I think if I'm The Jets, 
I don't. 

771
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:09,280
Before even coach, it's a game 
job in. 

772
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,000
There 1. 
Month, yeah, you didn't take 

773
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,720
this. 
Probably bad quarterback like 

774
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:17,760
you're fired. 
If if if either the Colts or The

775
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,080
Jets do not take jail millroad, 
then they are not 

776
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,480
organizationally committed to 
success on the field, I think. 

777
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,920
Does this mean that one of The 
Jets or the Colts entire front 

778
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,000
offices needs to be fired? 
Because like you've said this 

779
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,440
about the Colts, I think 2 weeks
ago. 

780
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,200
So like if one of them like who 
whoever takes it gets millroad, 

781
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,520
they can keep their jobs the 
other. 

782
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,040
Then the other guy gets fired. 
The other the other are. 

783
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,200
Not I don't think. 
I don't. 

784
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,560
Think Colts guys have at least 
been there? 

785
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,600
The Colts. 
Are not taking jail in Melrose. 

786
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,440
So let me tell you right now, 
like I've been one, I would love

787
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,160
him to take Jill Millrow 2. 
I would love Chris Ballard to 

788
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,240
seek unemployment. 
Neither of those things are 

789
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:53,440
happening anytime soon. 
So I'm I'm. 

790
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,920
Telling you dude, it's it's just
extremely unserious if one of 

791
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,320
those two teams does not take. 
Them. 

792
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,880
Yeah, the Colts are extremely 
unserious. 

793
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,200
They're run by like a 65 year 
old man. 

794
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,800
Who Jacobs? 
Jacobs tweeting at Chris Ballard

795
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,080
about the White Lotus, hoping 
he'll take off the Thailand 

796
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,560
That's he's hoping he'll seek 
unemployment in Thailment. 

797
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,840
He's an LBH. 
He's an LBH. 

798
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,440
He shaved his head and moved to 
Thailand. 

799
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,320
Jim Erste actually is like an 
LBH like when you watch like all

800
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,440
the groups of like the old 
people with shady financial 

801
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,240
dealings like Jim Ersten. 
Be right at home as an extra, 

802
00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:32,920
the white Lonus. 
Fields, by the way, I'm 

803
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,880
absolutely jamming. 
I'm jamming I think. 

804
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,000
He's taking the Raspam I think 
he's ever taken. 

805
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,960
I don't think I think Jim Ersten
goes a little harder than 

806
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,400
Raspam, but I'm sure he's giving
it a shot. 

807
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,200
Are are you guys not just like 
ecstatic to be pumping the 

808
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:53,600
button on fields right now when 
after the depth chart is Tyler 

809
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:58,280
Shuck, Justin Fields and and you
know, I don't know Jordan 

810
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,840
Travis, let's say they keep him.
I mean, he's going to end up 

811
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,160
being you're still. 
Got tie rod? 

812
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:04,480
I don't think he's under 
contract. 

813
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,920
I think maybe he's in a 
restricted free agent. 

814
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,800
Maybe I made that up. 
Check, check that, check that, 

815
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,400
Fact Check me, I thought. 
They did. 

816
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,880
So that's actually not great. 
I was operating. 

817
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,840
I was operating under the belief
that Tyrod was a free agent 

818
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,240
because that's not great because
you can bench Justin Fields for 

819
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:22,640
Tyrod. 
But for what point? 

820
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,320
Yeah, no. 
Save your job I. 

821
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,160
I well, not I don't think 
they're in. 

822
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:31,080
Not in your world. 
They're in like put a good 

823
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,520
product on the field mode. 
I think that, you know, they 

824
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:38,560
come from the, the Dan Campbell 
tree and it's like, let's, let's

825
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:44,280
get out there and, and play our 
hearts out right and get and 

826
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,800
kind of make this organization 
respectable again. 

827
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,040
It's kind of the, the move. 
And I think Fields makes a lot 

828
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,920
of sense. 
Like I, I was a big fan of them 

829
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,200
bringing fields in. 
I think, I think frankly, 

830
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,160
Steelers completely botched the 
situation not to have him as 

831
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,520
their guy. 
And now they're begging Aaron 

832
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,120
Rodgers, like, come on. 
It's a terrible position to put 

833
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,760
yourself in. 
So I I think it was a great move

834
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,000
and I totally could see them not
adding competition to the room 

835
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,680
and just riding with Fields and 
building up the roster. 

836
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,920
And then kind of like what the 
Raiders look to be doing, right?

837
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,920
The Raiders look to be like, 
let's get this. 

838
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,160
Let's get an environment that we
can actually put a young 

839
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,880
quarterback in and expect them 
to succeed, even if they're not 

840
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,040
a superstar. 
And Geno Smith can kind of help 

841
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,920
captain us along. 
And until we're there, that 

842
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,040
could be what they're doing with
Fields, but it's just, it's a 

843
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,320
lot shakier, like the floor is 
lower, you know, of what, of 

844
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,720
what that could end up looking 
like because we have seen fields

845
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:40,760
fail, you know, and and you 
know, I, he was better last 

846
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,040
year, but it wasn't, it wasn't 
amazing. 

847
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,760
So he's a guy, I think at the 
current price makes a lot of 

848
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,520
sense. 
If he were to rise considerably 

849
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,520
from here, though, then I do 
start to think about like we 

850
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,680
could be talking about a guy 
who's not starting at the end of

851
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,520
the year, you know, and when you
only have two or three of these 

852
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,800
guys, you know, two or three 
quarterbacks on your entire 

853
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,040
roster, that really hurts, you 
know, especially if you're 

854
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,000
paying like a tenth round pick 
for this guy. 

855
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,040
Well, that's why you got to take
him now and not in basketball 

856
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,360
mania when he's the quarterback 
8, which he will be. 

857
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,520
Yeah, I'm out. 
I'm out if he's the quarterback 

858
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,640
8. 
I mean, we literally just did 

859
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,240
this, but we did it in reverse 
last year where he was the 

860
00:43:23,240 --> 00:43:25,400
quarterback 6. 
And no, he was. 

861
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,000
Justin Fields was the 
quarterback 6 in the big board? 

862
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:31,720
No, last year. 
Oh, last. 

863
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,000
Oh, I see in the big. 
Board, yeah, the big board, 

864
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,040
yeah, cuz. 
Cuz I was gonna say like the 

865
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,800
last time that we had Justin 
Fields. 

866
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,800
No, maybe Pat's right. 
And he's not assured to start 

867
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,360
the whole year. 
The last time that we went into 

868
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,880
a season. 
Think he just feels to start the

869
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,720
whole year. 
He went at like the 4-5 turn, 

870
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,920
didn't he? 
Like it was like that year on 

871
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,880
the Bears. 
That year, on the Bears, he was.

872
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,120
No, he didn't pay off. 
No, I think 5-6 turn with Burrow

873
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,600
that year if I'm. 
Remember right two years ago, 

874
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,760
right? 
I remember being at the X. 

875
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,160
You're right, it was 4-5. 
My bad. 

876
00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:00,320
Yeah, because you could take 
more and fields together right 

877
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,160
at the 4-5. 
Yeah, it was 4-5. 

878
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,560
Yeah. 
Being at the Expo in Canton when

879
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,720
it's the beginning of the 
preseason and fields through 

880
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:11,360
like a a pass like basically a 
lateral to DJ Moore and he went 

881
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,120
60 to the house or something in 
the first pre season game. 

882
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,560
And everybody went to the bar 
and argued about whether it was 

883
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,120
good. 
Like fields put up, you know, a 

884
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,680
couple of touchdowns right away 
in the pre season for the Bears.

885
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,200
And you know, we couldn't even 
decide on whether it was 

886
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,520
actually anything. 
I I like the quarterbacks in 

887
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,200
front of them, though. 
They're still Prescott. 

888
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:34,160
They're still, you know, 15 is 
May Fields is 20. 

889
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,840
I don't need, I don't need to go
much higher. 

890
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,560
The other thing with Fields, 
it's like we did have this 

891
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,080
period last year where he's 
starting and wasn't like that 

892
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,400
great of a fantasy quarterback. 
Not that he was bad, but the 

893
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,440
dream of like, you know, this 
dude is going to be this dual 

894
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:57,120
threat cheat code for fantasy. 
I don't know that we would 

895
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,400
really expect him to be used 
like that for The Jets. 

896
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,320
It's probably going to be like a
bit more traditional. 

897
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:08,360
And so like, what are we really 
even getting the guy that would,

898
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,280
you know, be worth taking? 
Like does he have that ceiling 

899
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,120
or were we always kind of 
projecting that on him? 

900
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,280
Because when he does run, it can
be amazing. 

901
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,320
Fields had 1200 rushing yards 
and eight rushing touchdowns in 

902
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,200
a season. 
I mean, you just really do not 

903
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,480
find. 
But Justin, if I guaranteed you 

904
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,200
right now he's playing 17 games.
He's healthy and The Jets are 

905
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,040
not an abject disaster. 
Let's say they win seven games. 

906
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,080
Where are you? 
So it's it's not like a will 

907
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,840
they won't they bench him thing 
all year. 

908
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,120
Where are you taking Justin 
Fields if I guarantee you that 

909
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,880
information? 
You're guaranteeing me what 

910
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,840
again? 
He plays all year and they're 

911
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,120
not terrible. 
Not that much higher for me 

912
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,280
though. 
Still Davis because. 

913
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,920
I'm I'm taking him way higher. 
I would take him way higher, 

914
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,600
yeah. 
Is there a, Is there a 

915
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,120
Richardson, is there a 
Richardson thing here where we 

916
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,560
want you to sort of learn? 
I don't want, I don't want to 

917
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,920
say it the wrong way, but to 
real quarterback play stuff 

918
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,840
where maybe Fields does get 17 
games. 

919
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,000
Does quarterback a team that 
isn't terrible but isn't running

920
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,600
as much. 
I mean, fields always have the 

921
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,800
high scramble rate, right? 
Like that's the thing with 

922
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,640
Richardson is he actually 
doesn't scramble that much. 

923
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,400
So Richardson, it's it's more 
based on design runs. 

924
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,240
So where is it when you asked 
him to drop back? 

925
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,600
First of all, nothing good ever 
happens. 

926
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,000
But also he doesn't really 
scramble. 

927
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,080
He just, he just fires balls 
into the stands. 

928
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,840
So with fields like I, I don't 
think it matters really. 

929
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,640
Like what you call or like even 
if they call fewer designed runs

930
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,040
for fields that didn't, I mean, 
remember the year we we were 

931
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,720
like losing our minds over how 
few design runs he was getting 

932
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:47,920
called for him early in his 
Chicago tenure and he was still 

933
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,200
getting there. 
Not every game, but in these big

934
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:53,040
spike because you have these big
scrambles like I would take 

935
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,440
fields way higher. 
Like I'm looking at it. 

936
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,880
I mean, maybe it's not like he's
materially better than a ton of 

937
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,600
these guys, but I just don't 
understand like why would I ever

938
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,520
bother other than stacking 
reasons Like I don't understand 

939
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,560
why I would take like Baker 
Mayfield or Bo Nicks or like any

940
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,400
of these guys that are like in 
the 88 to 100 range well. 

941
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,880
Kyler's going 94. 
Yeah, we feel that much better 

942
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,640
about Fields and Kyler. 
No, I mean Fields is behind like

943
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,920
Michael Pannick's right now. 
Like that doesn't make a lot of 

944
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,680
sense to me. 
I mean, there's I just think 

945
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,400
it's really flat and it's really
shocking how widely spread these

946
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,960
quarterbacks are. 
Like, I don't, I don't think 

947
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,800
there's much of A justification 
for 50 picks of ADP between like

948
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:36,040
Fields or even guys like Tua 
versus like Goff and you know, 

949
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,000
the Kyler, Bonex, Baker, that 
tier like that needs to get 

950
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,960
compressed. 
Well, I mean, part of it for me 

951
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,480
is that once you get to that 
pocket it, it, it's extremely 

952
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,760
compressed once you get there 
and like I'm, I want to live in 

953
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:54,160
this area. 
So like Kyler at 94 is a great 

954
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,240
pick in my opinion. 
And you get if fields were to 

955
00:47:57,240 --> 00:47:59,320
pass him, I would just kind of 
wave goodbye. 

956
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,800
Like I haven't drafted much Bo 
Nix 'cause I'm like what I can 

957
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,440
get, like Kyler and. 
I would just take. 

958
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,160
I would take. 
Just Williams and. 

959
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,480
Straight up right now, knowing 
what I know with the information

960
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,120
I have on March 18th, I would 
just rather have Justin Fields 

961
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,120
on my fantasy teams. 
Than Bo Nix, Yeah, yeah. 

962
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,400
Yeah, I don't understand Bonex's
price at all. 

963
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,360
And I I think I think if if if 
fields. 

964
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,160
Hayden Hayden decided to rank 
him as the quarterback 7 three 

965
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,920
months ago and people just were 
like. 

966
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,560
Felt like, well that's the same 
thing. 

967
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,080
I guess it is what it. 
Is I don't want to fade Bonex, 

968
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,720
you know I gotta take a beer. 
I don't want to have zero you. 

969
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:38,680
Know imagine not having Nix. 
You know, I got, I got my 16% 

970
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,440
bone Nix last year, so I'll even
it out with a 0% this year and 

971
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,520
then we're fine. 
We're at market for for two 

972
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,960
years. 
I like, I don't know, he feels 

973
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,120
just is Kyler to me. 
If he gets the full year then 

974
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,440
he's Kyler. 
Then it's like they should go in

975
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,320
the same spot. 
Jacob, I think you're out in 

976
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:55,720
like 12 minutes. 
I don't want to. 

977
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,040
I'm out in nine, yeah. 
Unfortunately. 

978
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,560
I. 
Yeah, OK, let's Evan Ingram, I 

979
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,160
think might be interesting for a
minute, but I also want to get 

980
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,080
the Fallers in before Jacob has 
to run. 

981
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,840
How big of a win for Ingram was 
landing in Denver? 

982
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,640
Pretty big win. 
I think arguably like the best 

983
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,920
body could have gotten. 
I'm kind of a, at least in real 

984
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,840
life, I'm kind of an Emmett 
Ingram hater. 

985
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,200
I mean in terms of real life 
football, I don't mean like I 

986
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,040
walk a Devon Ingram and just 
punch him in the face. 

987
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,640
But. 
I. 

988
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,840
Think yeah, I think, I think 
Jacksonville generally made a 

989
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,040
mistake in using him as like an 
every down tight end because 

990
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,560
he's not that effective of a 
blocker. 

991
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,200
And so I think it's a big reason
why the running game was pretty 

992
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,880
bad and I don't think most teams
would then use them that way. 

993
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,560
I don't think the Denver will 
either. 

994
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:51,720
It's just we've seen tight ends 
have success in a 65 to 70% 

995
00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:54,000
route rate role in shot Peyton 
offenses. 

996
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,840
So you look at like what Jared 
Cook was able to do, Benjamin 

997
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,680
Watson was able to do even like 
I think Kobe Fleener had one 

998
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,520
decent season as that move flex 
tight end. 

999
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,320
I think it's going to be used 
really intelligently. 

1000
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,120
So seems like a big, big win if 
you're an Evan Ingram supporter.

1001
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:11,440
God I just got shivers down my 
goddamn spine at the name of 

1002
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,200
Kobe Fleener being invoked 
because holy shit that's the 

1003
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,600
like. 
The Kobe Lena role was good for 

1004
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,080
fantasy but it was not a full 
time role. 

1005
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,640
It was very much like a hyper 
specific niche role. 

1006
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:25,680
Yeah. 
It actually makes me wonder, 

1007
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,960
like, is that going to pay off 
in ADP of, you know, 1:30 or 

1008
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,880
1:20 as he moves up? 
We've been on Evan Ingram 

1009
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:41,120
because I thought he was like, 
you know, it's like Jacksonville

1010
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,480
probably shouldn't cut him 
because they're not like 

1011
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,760
overflowing with with pass 
catchers. 

1012
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:49,640
But if they do cut him, he's 
going to land somewhere as a 

1013
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,160
pass. 
You don't bring in Evan Ingram 

1014
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,440
and ask him to block like he's 
he's got a very clear role. 

1015
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:59,360
But you know, Noah fan plays 
about half the snaps like this 

1016
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,800
can get ugly. 
Are you are you worried about 

1017
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,280
the floor at all with him not 
having a full time role 

1018
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:10,000
potentially? 
Yeah, yeah, I think his his 

1019
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,640
range is pretty wide. 
You could tell me anything from 

1020
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,160
he easily out targets Cortland 
Sutton and is the more 

1021
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,840
productive of the pair because 
Cortland Sutton's 30 years old 

1022
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,480
and was kind of miscast as like 
a clear alpha wide receiver. 

1023
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,200
Or you could tell me Sean Payton
is just so addicted to being 

1024
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:35,280
fancy that like Adam Troutman 
and Lucas Kroll and and you 

1025
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,960
know, these other guys are out 
there to block and, and he has, 

1026
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:39,840
you know, it's 62% of the 
routes. 

1027
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,400
The Nathan Yankee tweet of Adam 
Troutman is the Denver Broncos 

1028
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:49,360
starting tight end that is going
to hit so hard like that is. 

1029
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:57,240
Yeah, I sucked that in. 
Yeah, Troutman just played so 

1030
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,960
he's 70% of the snaps until the 
1st preseason game. 

1031
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,280
Then it'll be going down by by 
12 to 56. 

1032
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,880
I there's only one tight end 
that I looked quickly that I 

1033
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,920
think I would solidly take ahead
of him and ironic because I did 

1034
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,960
not like this guy last year, but
probably the Ferg dog. 

1035
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,480
I think I would take the Ferg 
dog out of him. 

1036
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,240
He's going to be playing all the
snaps, going to run all the 

1037
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:21,400
routes. 
He I don't know he's the same 

1038
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,640
guy that we took like in the 
sixth round for some God 

1039
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,800
forsaken reason last year. 
I don't really understand why 

1040
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,480
he's now going in like the 13th.
That would be that would be a 

1041
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:31,440
dude. 
I would probably take over 

1042
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,800
Everett Ingram, but otherwise 
I'm probably had everyone else 

1043
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:35,920
behind them. 
They all look like part time 

1044
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,280
people too. 
Yeah, and there's and there's 

1045
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,240
Kyle Pitts right down there at 
the. 

1046
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:43,160
End well, I I don't I don't I 
don't see the name Kyle Pitts. 

1047
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,080
I I scroll and it's like 
unidentified. 

1048
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,760
All right. 
Well then, us as the Slappy 

1049
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,640
community, we're casting. 
We're casting you out, man. 

1050
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,120
We are. 
We are, we are casting. 

1051
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,640
No, we're way behind on Kyle 
Pitts and like F1. 

1052
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,520
Look man, if you were drafting 
Kyle Pitts last year in Round 8 

1053
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,520
or whatever and you can't take 
him at around 14 now, then you 

1054
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:03,120
were never. 
Really. 

1055
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,280
That's what I said last last 
year. 

1056
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:05,880
I was like, well, I was taking 
him in round four. 

1057
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,120
Well, I was taking him in round 
two. 

1058
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,880
It's like, how many times do we 
need to do this? 

1059
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,040
I. 
Forgot a couple more, Jacob, at 

1060
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,360
least one more time. 
Yeah, next year. 

1061
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,280
You can't draft them in the 20th
round. 

1062
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,480
Just go 20 rounds. 
You can't just take a fire. 

1063
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,560
We used to be drafting him in 
NFL fantasy football. 

1064
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,960
You're not willing to play Arena
League football to draft Kyle 

1065
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,400
Pitts? 
I will be, I will be if, if Kyle

1066
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,760
Pitts, if Kyle Pitts is in the 
Arena League and DraftKings 

1067
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,360
brings it back, I mean, 
absolutely, I will be there. 

1068
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,480
I'll be there the same way I was
there to play Trent Richardson 

1069
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,200
in UFLDFS. 
You know, streets, don't forget.

1070
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,240
I mean, he just opens up so much
when you when you pull up plug 

1071
00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:47,520
in that min salary, you know, 
there's so much he can do he's. 

1072
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,240
Going to be catching passes from
Case Cookus for what did you 

1073
00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:54,880
say, the Birmingham Stallions? 
What they are case case case 

1074
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,360
cookus, dude case cookus he 
could play. 

1075
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,160
Ballers, Jordan Whittington with
the Devante Adams signing in 

1076
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:06,560
LAJK Dobbin still a free agent. 
Jalen McMillan DK Metcalf. 

1077
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,040
McMillan. 
What? 

1078
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,560
What do we have with him? 
Everybody's back. 

1079
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,160
Doblin done. 
No interest at Pick 88. 

1080
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,960
I can't have less interest at 
pick 88. 

1081
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,040
I don't understand where he was 
going in the 1st place he. 

1082
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:24,680
Was always optimistic, yeah. 
He wasn't he scored a ton of 

1083
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,880
touchdowns last year, but his 
his stats were fine. 

1084
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,520
Like he he didn't have that 
impressive for rookie year and 

1085
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,800
now he's the third option and 
he'll probably run a lot of 

1086
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,840
routes, but like he didn't 
really do anything prior to 

1087
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:37,520
Evanston. 
God would go. 

1088
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:38,920
I don't know. 
He's still got to follow like 

1089
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,920
two more rounds for me to be 
particularly interested 

1090
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,920
personally. 
You have the rookies, Davis 

1091
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,920
right there in the same range, 
Golden and Ibuka. 

1092
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,600
I'm always taking the rookies 
over McMillan as well. 

1093
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,400
Yeah, I'm contractually 
obligated to be a golden slappy,

1094
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,480
but I I'm not as down on 
McMillan as these guys because I

1095
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:03,120
view Kate Auten as basically 
like a functional blocking dummy

1096
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,040
on the field. 
Like not a guy who's going to 

1097
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,680
earn targets When Mike Evans, 
Chris Godwin and Jill McMillan 

1098
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,200
are on the field. 
It'll be a high volume, 

1099
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,080
relatively speaking, passing 
offense. 

1100
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,160
Baker. 
I mean, McMillan will not, you 

1101
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,280
know, he's not going to be like,
oh, you took this guy in the 

1102
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,440
FFPC main event and you're 
plugging him in every week and 

1103
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,440
you're smashing him. 
But he's got like obviously mega

1104
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,200
contingent upside. 
We saw it last year when the 

1105
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:31,600
guys were missing time and he's 
got enough spike week stuff. 

1106
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,880
I mean, there's going to be a 
random, there will be a four 

1107
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,520
target 2 touchdown game in there
for Jill McMillan at some point.

1108
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,920
Like I think he's he's going 
around where like, I mean 

1109
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,160
Shaheed and Downs like kind of 
similar things where the volume 

1110
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,560
is a little bit uncertain, but 
the spike weeks are there. 

1111
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,960
I I think he's fine, Colt. 
Scouts are going to be fine. 

1112
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,400
Daniel Jones is playing like 14 
games this year. 

1113
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,680
Daniel Jones. 
And he's going to be just as 

1114
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,880
good as Gardner Minshew was, 
like we're going to be no, but 

1115
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,120
he can be Gardner Minshew. 
Like the Downs and Pittman 

1116
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,280
prices are crazy people you are 
afraid of Anthony Richardson. 

1117
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,960
Andy Richardson is going to be 
out of your lives by Week 3, 

1118
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,240
don't worry. 
About that I so often I'm like, 

1119
00:56:05,240 --> 00:56:09,160
I guess I should take downs and 
it is scary and like I will I 

1120
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:10,800
will give the people credit 
here. 

1121
00:56:11,240 --> 00:56:14,920
I feel the same fear like it is.
It is not a fun click, but 

1122
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,920
Downs, even with some Anthony 
Richardson bearishness, I think 

1123
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,320
is pretty underpriced. 
Pittman had a fracture in his 

1124
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,800
back last year, which is like, 
you know, kind of concerning for

1125
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,640
a guy who's not that great. 
But the Anthony Richardson 

1126
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,480
bearishness works for you like 
you don't have. 

1127
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:29,480
That's the thing. 
You don't have to. 

1128
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:30,920
You don't have to fear Anthony 
Richardson. 

1129
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,680
You have to. 
Anthony Richardson being the 

1130
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,360
worst quarterback in the league,
that's great. 

1131
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,040
He's out of there, out of your 
life. 

1132
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,920
Don't worry about it. 
Yeah, but then you got Daniel 

1133
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,880
Jones, you know, it's, it's 
like, is Tommy DeVito going to 

1134
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,040
end up throwing passes like 
these? 

1135
00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:45,320
Things can get bad, you know 
what I mean? 

1136
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,280
Sam Ellinger, he's going to be 
great, don't worry. 

1137
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,520
About it, yeah. 
Yeah, Jacob, once again, welcome

1138
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,640
to the team. 
Makes this even more fun. 

1139
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,760
We'll see you next week. 
I appreciate it very much. 

1140
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,440
I will see you guys next week. 
Have a blast rest of the show 

1141
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,080
and excited to join you guys for
the season. 

1142
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,200
Thank you very much. 
Thanks, Jacob. 

1143
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,760
Good comment. 
Good comment from Sacrilegious 

1144
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,080
here. 
McMillan basically scored the 

1145
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,720
same fantasy points as JSN his 
rookie year, yet we are saying 

1146
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:13,760
he had a bad rookie year. 
Curious. 

1147
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,120
Yeah, although it kind of 
reminds me of of like Tyler 

1148
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,400
Boyd, you know, when we were 
drafting him as the number three

1149
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,320
on the Bengals. 
And it's like, I don't, I don't 

1150
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:29,520
think this offense is going to 
support like 3 receivers worthy 

1151
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,880
of a, you know, top 90 ADP, top 
95 ADP like it does. 

1152
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,720
He just shouldn't be going here 
anymore. 

1153
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,000
He should fall at least 10 
picks, maybe a little more. 

1154
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,400
I mean, I guess you could argue 
that he's going to have like 

1155
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,640
some early season value because 
Godwin's coming off the ankle 

1156
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,080
injury and he is a second year 
guy. 

1157
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,240
Maybe we get a a breakout, you 
know, or secondary breakout 

1158
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:54,400
because he kind of broke out 
last year. 

1159
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,600
But. 
One of these years Mike Evans 

1160
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,640
isn't Mike Evans. 
Yeah, but like Baker Mayfield's 

1161
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:06,600
number three wide receiver at 
like pick 90 is really rich. 

1162
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,480
I mean, it's like, it's like 
there's obviously a little bit 

1163
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,280
of contingent upside built in 
there. 

1164
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,880
There's a little bit of the 
market not wanting to let go 

1165
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,440
what it had before. 
That is big. 

1166
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,480
Like I basically like, I don't 
get McMillan much anymore 

1167
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,480
because I do have Golden and 
Ibuka ranked ahead of him. 

1168
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,560
But you know, there I think 
there's like a pretty good 

1169
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:33,840
argument that after the top 5060
picks, kind of like the 

1170
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,560
multiverse, like the the 
contingent stuff matters so 

1171
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,320
much. 
And he's one of the clearest. 

1172
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,880
I mean, he's if you think about 
contingent value wide receivers,

1173
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,560
I mean, he's probably the best 
one in football. 

1174
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,160
I can't really think of a guy 
well. 

1175
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,160
T Higgins would be. 
Yeah, but I mean, T Higgins is 

1176
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,320
the second round pick. 
You know, I'm thinking, I'm 

1177
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:58,960
thinking like, oh, I said. 
You're price adjusted. 

1178
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,480
Price adjusted, Yeah, yeah, 
yeah, yeah. 

1179
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:05,400
Like I guess the issue that I 
have with McMillan is he's a 

1180
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:10,560
he's a number three guy. 
And so you're like last year, 

1181
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,880
you know, we're taking Christian
Kirk a bit and it's like after 

1182
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,520
the year you go in retrospect, 
seems kind of fucked up that I 

1183
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,760
was taking Jacoby Myers in the 
the third round, you know, and, 

1184
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,680
and this kind of feels like 
McMillan is sort of the 

1185
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,280
expensive version of of an 18th 
round pick. 

1186
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,840
You know, it's like we get like,
hey, he's he's he's a solid 

1187
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:32,920
player. 
He's definitely gonna have a 

1188
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:37,360
job. 
He's he's unlikely to on talent 

1189
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,760
past the top two guys ahead of 
him. 

1190
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,960
He kind of needs an injury to 
really get a target share that's

1191
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:48,400
boosted. 
You know, it's it's like it's 

1192
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,720
it's sort of Jalen Tolberty or 
something. 

1193
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,040
Like I know he's a much better 
player than that guy, But but 

1194
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,680
that's kind of you know, it 
starts to get like a little bit 

1195
00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:00,200
like, you know, I don't want to 
be completely out because I 

1196
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:04,200
think he's good, but it's it's 
just like, man, you know, at 

1197
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,880
this price when you have like I 
think Ibuka is good too, you 

1198
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,280
know, and he's going to go first
round and probably land 

1199
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,200
somewhere where he where he's 
going to project well and and 

1200
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,040
think about it from a closing 
line value perspective, like. 

1201
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,720
What are the odds that post 
draft Mcmillan's going in the 

1202
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,880
sixth round versus yeah, no, no 
change. 

1203
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,640
Like he's he's dead. 
He's dead to the closing line 

1204
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,080
value on on Golden and Ibuka and
those dudes. 

1205
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,200
So, and frankly, guys going 
behind him, you know, there's a,

1206
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:30,760
there's a chance that one of 
these other, like there's a 

1207
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,280
chance Jayden Higgins ends up as
a a sixth or seven. 

1208
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,440
Oh, Jayden Higgins, I think 
probably is. 

1209
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:39,560
Yeah, gonna do that. 
Travis Hunter, Travis Hunter, 

1210
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:41,000
Great point. 
Great point. 

1211
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,320
I mean, he could be like a four 
if it if the Patriots take him 

1212
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,320
and they're like, oh, he's the 
number one wide receiver, like 

1213
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,920
fourth round pick. 
Which someone will, I think, 

1214
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:53,040
which someone will actually do. 
Yeah, for what he costs. 

1215
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,760
Yeah. 
So I mean, there's there's an 

1216
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,400
upside case, you know, that that
plays out over the course of the

1217
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,600
season, but there's really no 
upside place that case outside 

1218
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,240
of a, a, a freak injury, you 
know, offseason injury to one of

1219
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:08,160
the guys ahead of him where 
there's there's lots of upside 

1220
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,200
cases in the next, in the next, 
you know, month and 1/2 for 

1221
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:15,160
these other guys. 
Quarterbacks on the move or not 

1222
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,480
yet as we still wait on Aaron 
Rodgers just how he wants it, 

1223
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,600
Russell Wilson as well, Jameis 
Winston bouncing around a little

1224
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:26,080
bit. 
We've got Richardson and Daniel 

1225
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,920
Jones on this chart, Kenny 
Pickett as well. 

1226
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,160
Pat, and we talked about Fields 
already. 

1227
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:34,040
I don't. 
Know I did. 

1228
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:38,320
I I would like the record to 
show that I waited until Jacob 

1229
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,440
Sanderson left the show before 
trying to compare Jaylen 

1230
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:46,960
Tolbert. 
So it is it's fair to to call me

1231
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:51,880
out there. 
Can he can he Pickett, We, we 

1232
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,760
have to talk about him. 
Can we can we skip him? 

1233
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,920
I don't think we do. 
I mean, Kenny, Kenny Pickett is 

1234
01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:00,320
drawing at least like 13% live 
to start week one for the 

1235
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,840
Browns. 
What do you think the Browns do?

1236
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,680
I guess do you think the Titans 
take Ward is that is that? 

1237
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:10,680
So I think the Giants trade up 
for Ward. 

1238
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,840
OK. 
The Browns could also do that. 

1239
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,720
The Browns could also do it. 
They might feel that they're 

1240
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,720
further away from competing. 
I think the Giants can 

1241
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,960
reasonably argue we could win 10
games this year if we get 

1242
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,120
competent. 
So they have the neighbors part.

1243
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,480
The defense played quite well 
last year. 

1244
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,320
They have that left tackle who's
always injured, but at least 

1245
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,920
theoretically if he's healthy, 
they already have the left 

1246
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:38,000
tackle so they can at least tell
themselves they're closer. 

1247
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:39,360
Now. 
Cleveland has like nothing. 

1248
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,240
Cleveland has like Miles 
Garrett, an offensive line that 

1249
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,000
always projects to be the 4th 
best in the league and then is 

1250
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,280
always ass. 
She's like every year people are

1251
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,400
like, oh, the Browns offensive 
line, they got dogs and then 

1252
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,480
they're terrible. 
Although it might be related to 

1253
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,800
the quarterback play, but yeah, 
I don't know. 

1254
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,760
Is Rogers, is Rogers just going 
to retire? 

1255
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:58,600
Can we just be? 
Can we? 

1256
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,720
Just be done with this. 
That would be funny. 

1257
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:02,640
Like I would. 
I would actually gain a little 

1258
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,800
respect for Rogers. 
Not a ton, but a little more 

1259
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,840
than I have now. 
I want retired. 

1260
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,800
What what I want to have happen 
is for these, the Steelers and 

1261
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,280
the Giants, and I get whoever 
else to just sort of end up on 

1262
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,280
someone else. 
And then he's Belichick at that 

1263
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,000
point, right? 
Like he just couldn't get a job.

1264
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,360
And they'll, they'll tell a 
certain story about it, but I 

1265
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,520
don't need him around. 
So I kind of hope that happens. 

1266
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:31,960
Yeah, I mean, if he wants to 
play, he can play cuz he can go 

1267
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,120
be the bridge slash backup in 
Minnesota. 

1268
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,560
What a weird idea that I don't 
get that at all. 

1269
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,120
I don't really get it either, 
but it seems like Minnesota's 

1270
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:47,120
open to it. 
So now the, the the Browns 

1271
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:53,560
thing, there's been some buzz 
about them getting Chador and it

1272
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,600
kind of makes sense that they're
like that. 

1273
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:57,840
They, you know, we heard that 
they're locked into a 

1274
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:01,080
quarterback at one, I kind of 
thought or at two, I kind of 

1275
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:05,480
thought that was like BS to get 
to try to get the Giants to to 

1276
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:09,120
trade up so they could get their
pick between Carter and Hunter. 

1277
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,320
Not that they wouldn't take Ward
if he was there, but basically 

1278
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,040
their number one player is, is 
one of the other two guys. 

1279
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:15,880
And their preference would be to
just sit there and take him. 

1280
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,800
But they're in, they're in, you 
know, dire straits. 

1281
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,240
They might have to start Kenny 
Pickett. 

1282
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:27,560
So I I could see them doing 
Shudor, but I could also see 

1283
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:31,680
this all being like leaning 
towards them maybe taking guy in

1284
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,400
the second or third round and 
trading for Kirk Cousins. 

1285
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,920
James Palmer had a report that 
like the the thing of them 

1286
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:44,080
eating the $10 million to 2026 
was basically just buying them 

1287
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:50,040
time to then move him later, 
keep him on the roster And they 

1288
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:54,040
could structure the deal so that
they're taking the, the Falcons 

1289
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:57,720
are continuing to take on the 
salary and get getting 

1290
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,520
compensated for doing so 
basically. 

1291
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:03,040
So they, they want, if they're 
trading Cousins, they want 

1292
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:06,280
something for him that they, 
they're willing to pay the 

1293
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,800
money, but they get a draft pick
in return. 

1294
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,640
And so I think Cousins is still 
on the table to get traded, 

1295
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,760
still potentially fills one of 
these open quarterback spots. 

1296
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,480
And Cleveland still makes the 
most sense because they have 

1297
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:22,080
Stefanski, who, you know, might 
actually be able to coax 

1298
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,280
something out of Kirk Cousins at
this point, even though that's 

1299
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:25,800
obviously going to be tricky to 
do. 

1300
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,800
Maybe Kirk Cousins is the most 
likely week 1 starter for the 

1301
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,480
Browns and they just haven't 
arrived there yet. 

1302
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,520
I do. 
I do want to say of all the 

1303
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,600
potential multiverses, I think 
Rodgers signing with the Vikings

1304
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,280
is the least likely. 
Actually, I disagree with the 

1305
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:44,160
market pretty strongly on that. 
There's been no indication 

1306
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,320
outside of like a couple tweets 
from guys who I don't really 

1307
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,760
think would know about Rogers to
Minnesota. 

1308
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:56,120
But like, I mean, they they 
kicked like Sam Darnold was gone

1309
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,280
like quick like there was there 
was not even really Hemming or 

1310
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:00,880
hawing. 
If if you want a bridge 

1311
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,720
quarterback, wouldn't you rather
just go with the guy who just 

1312
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:08,920
won 14 games then bring in this 
like melodramatic guy who's not 

1313
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,280
even good anymore? 
It's a horrible idea. 

1314
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:15,560
I think too like and if we don't
have crack rock telling us this,

1315
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,640
don't don't bet on it happening 
with Minnesota. 

1316
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,000
I mean, we don't we don't have 
crack rock padded on the on the 

1317
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:21,880
Rogers, the mini idea, then 
forget about it. 

1318
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,760
It's not happening. 
We also arefasan has also talked

1319
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,920
about how they really are high 
on JJ McCarthy. 

1320
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:33,760
So it, it feels like maybe 
there's a number at which Rogers

1321
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,240
would be like, well, fuck it, 
let's try it. 

1322
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:38,800
And then maybe that number is 
out there. 

1323
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,200
I I mean, that's total 
speculation from me, but it's 

1324
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,720
not. 
Just a. 

1325
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:48,280
Just if they wanted Rogers, the 
the report like Rogers clearly 

1326
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,120
has put out, I would like to 
play for the Vikings. 

1327
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,480
So if they wanted him, they 
could go get him today and it'd 

1328
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,440
be done. 
So they they must not want. 

1329
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:55,920
That. 
That's right. 

1330
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:57,320
What? 
What an awful idea. 

1331
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:58,920
Why? 
Why would you even think about 

1332
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,080
this if you're in Minnesota? 
I don't know. 

1333
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,720
All these other ideas make more 
sense, so. 

1334
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,520
I really don't know. 
I can't think of a quarterback I

1335
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,720
would be less confident would be
a good backup than Aaron 

1336
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:10,880
Rodgers. 
I know got. 

1337
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:14,560
To be got to be Of all 96 
quarterbacks on an NFL roster, 

1338
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:18,600
he would be by far the worst as.
A backup. 

1339
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,360
I'd rather have a Trey Lance as 
my backup. 

1340
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,040
I'd, I mean, I'd rather be like,
all right, we're trading 9 picks

1341
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:27,600
for Joe Burrow and he's our 
backup. 

1342
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:31,080
Like he would be less of a Dick 
and less of a poison to the 

1343
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:32,520
whole organization. 
I mean, true. 

1344
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,760
I will say this. 
If Minnesota does do this with 

1345
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:39,400
the idea that Rogers will be a 
bridge or be a mentor or it will

1346
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:43,440
somehow be positive for JJ 
McCarthy's development, they are

1347
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:48,200
basically the dumbest people 
alive and, and should be laughed

1348
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:49,520
at. 
And when they, you know, 

1349
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,680
basically curse their 
organization for another 10 

1350
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,080
years doing this like we should 
all be like, yeah, it, it it was

1351
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,440
clearly obvious that this was a 
bad idea. 

1352
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,520
The only worst idea, maybe 
because it's Minnesota, is 

1353
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,480
Cousins. 
But you know, just of course 

1354
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,280
that would never happen. 
That's even a better idea. 

1355
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,720
That's a better idea. 
That's a way better idea. 

1356
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,360
Bringing him back and having 
that in your in on your 

1357
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,280
Wednesday media sessions. 
Is Kirk Cousins in the 

1358
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,200
background if Arthy doesn't? 
For for all the thing about 

1359
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,439
Kirk, Kirk is seems to be like a
a nice person. 

1360
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,120
He like when things went bad for
him in Atlanta last year, he 

1361
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,200
wasn't like, can't believe they 
benched me. 

1362
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:27,479
Michael Pannick's isn't ready. 
He just like got. 

1363
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:31,560
He just did at his. 
Job, by the way, I don't know 

1364
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,600
that they have the belief set 
here might be pretty similar 

1365
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:36,720
between Kirk Cousins and Aaron 
Rodgers. 

1366
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:40,000
So it's really I think it just 
is a credit to Kirk Cousins, the

1367
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,160
human. 
Yes, definitely. 

1368
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:46,359
He's a better person to have in 
your building. 

1369
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,319
I think by, you know, all the 
evidence that we have sitting 

1370
01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:52,640
here. 
That Netflix show really changed

1371
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:57,240
his his image cousins like he he
was not this four years ago. 

1372
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:00,520
He was the guy, you know, all, 
all the all the, all the 

1373
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,040
different moments and cousin's 
career and the big ego and the 

1374
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,399
digs leaves. 
And then that Netflix thing 

1375
01:09:05,399 --> 01:09:06,800
comes out with Mahomes in it, 
right? 

1376
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:10,960
And Mariota and everybody sort 
of really liked cousins from 

1377
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:12,080
that. 
So it's really changed I. 

1378
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,240
Don't I don't really like him. 
Like I think he's just like, 

1379
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:17,120
whatever, a total milquetoast 
guy. 

1380
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,840
But I just, I'm saying he's 
definitely, you know what, 

1381
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:23,160
Russell Wilson would literally 
be a better backup quarterback 

1382
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,120
than Rogers. 
And he kind of has the same 

1383
01:09:25,319 --> 01:09:27,760
melodramatic make it about me 
thing. 

1384
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,520
And even he would still be. 
Russell would be easily better 

1385
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,680
backup than Rogers. 
I, I mean, I'd like, I, I really

1386
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,840
do struggle to think of a single
quarterback who'd be a worse 

1387
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,640
backup. 
Yeah, we agree. 

1388
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:44,279
Next up is the 2 Colt 
quarterbacks Indianapolis brings

1389
01:09:44,279 --> 01:09:45,840
in Daniel Jones. 
We talked about this for a 

1390
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:47,640
minute. 
Jacob apparently is not worried 

1391
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:51,560
about Richardson or not, not 
expecting anyway Richardson to 

1392
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,279
make it. 
Yeah, he is. 

1393
01:09:53,399 --> 01:09:55,760
He is worried about Richardson 
but therefore not worried about 

1394
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,680
the pass catchers because we're 
going to get Daniel Jones to 

1395
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,880
close the year. 
Well, this was. 

1396
01:10:03,480 --> 01:10:05,920
They had they had to sign a 
quarterback that Richardson 

1397
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:10,600
could theoretically beat in a 
quarterback battle while also 

1398
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,600
not leaving them completely 
stone dead if they decide like, 

1399
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:17,320
look, it's not happening. 
And so so he can clearly beat 

1400
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,560
Daniel Jones in a quarterback 
competition because Daniel Jones

1401
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,560
is bad. 
But if the season just goes 

1402
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:29,040
totally sideways, you can like 
maybe scrape nine wins together 

1403
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,880
with Daniel Jones as you're 
like, Daniel Jones is bad and 

1404
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:35,520
worse than Richardson, but it's 
not like going to Jordan Travis 

1405
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,640
or Sam Ellinger or or whatever. 
Like it's not just waiting a 

1406
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:46,400
total white flag on your season.
Yeah, I think that it's if they 

1407
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:51,560
go to Daniel Jones, it will be a
big boost for Josh Downs because

1408
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:55,040
Daniel Jones, he can be, you 
know, he's much more, much, 

1409
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,200
much, much more accurate than 
Anthony Richardson. 

1410
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,160
They'll they'll probably have 
him run. 

1411
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:05,360
So like the offense won't be a 
disaster, but it is going to end

1412
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,400
in everyone getting fired. 
Like I, I don't think that 

1413
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:13,640
there's a path to selling like 
the second Daniel Jones gets in 

1414
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:18,920
there, Richardson will go down 
as a mega bust and you're not 

1415
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:20,600
going to win 9 games with Daniel
Jones. 

1416
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,640
You're going to miss the 
playoffs and everyone's getting 

1417
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,200
fired. 
I think so, you know, I don't 

1418
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:29,200
know, I got, I kind of get the 
move from their perspective, but

1419
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:31,960
just feels like it kind of 
cements their. 

1420
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:35,560
Well, their the other thing is 
you can also keep the offense 

1421
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:36,800
the same. 
Like, you know when they would 

1422
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:38,800
have to go to Flacco, it'd be 
like, OK, we're literally 

1423
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,360
running completely different 
stuff. 

1424
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,440
We have to change the game. 
Yeah, that's true. 

1425
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,000
You could. 
I mean Daniel Jones is a bad 

1426
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:50,200
deep ball passer, like not not 
in the same degree as Richard so

1427
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:51,960
you could basically run the same
stuff. 

1428
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:56,200
I would say this is Steiken. 
What what Steiken could be doing

1429
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,960
is saying I got to save my 
reputation as an OC. 

1430
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,680
Let me let me get Daniel Jones 
in here. 

1431
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,800
And obviously he's trying to 
keep his actual job, but like, 

1432
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:09,960
this is good for his OC chances 
going forward because you can, 

1433
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:13,400
Daniel Jones allows you to show 
like what I was trying to do, 

1434
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,320
it's not going to work, but 
like, I can get something out of

1435
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,040
him to close the year. 
Where you go, OK, I I think 

1436
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,240
maybe Richardson was making 
this, this guy look worse than 

1437
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:22,160
he was. 
We're not giving him a head 

1438
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:24,560
coaching job, but he can go BRSC
somewhere. 

1439
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:28,480
It was always a tough needle to 
thread Indianapolis with having 

1440
01:12:28,480 --> 01:12:31,840
Flacco be there before, and they
wanted competition, but Darnold 

1441
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:35,240
was too successful last year. 
If you brought him in, you 

1442
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,160
wouldn't need Richardson. 
So this is like, I don't know 

1443
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,440
how many other guys as there 
were available that fit like 

1444
01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:44,640
right in that pocket or somebody
that, you know, represents 

1445
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:48,240
enough credibility as somebody 
to compete for the starting job,

1446
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:51,480
but not just come in and steal 
it or either not be somebody 

1447
01:12:51,480 --> 01:12:53,280
capable of it at all. 
Like you couldn't even make the 

1448
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,560
argument. 
I think fields was fields was 

1449
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,440
their answer. 
And again, I am a Fields guy, 

1450
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:03,840
but Fields would have given you 
the oh, yeah, he's I mean, he he

1451
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:05,400
couldn't beat out Russell 
Wilson. 

1452
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,320
He's our backup. 
But like really, you're hoping 

1453
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,600
he's your starter. 
He he soundly beats out 

1454
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,560
Richardson and camp and you 
basically you're like, we're 

1455
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,640
going to get nine wins out of 
Justin Fields, which to me feels

1456
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:20,200
like something you want it. 
It's like in the Stiken system 

1457
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:23,800
is more realistic because he you
are actually using him as a dual

1458
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:27,400
threat playing to his strengths 
like Justin Fields running the 

1459
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,080
offense they're trying to have 
Anthony Richardson run. 

1460
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,640
I think would would work. 
Now it doesn't work like 

1461
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:35,160
amazing, but you could. 
I think you could get 9. 

1462
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:36,480
Wins out of that. 
I'd rather call you get. 

1463
01:13:36,480 --> 01:13:38,000
Nine wins out of that than 
Daniel Jones. 

1464
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,800
Colts plan should have been 
Richardson Fields Mill Row. 

1465
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,440
That is, I, I, I'll, I'll go to 
my, I'll go to my deathbed 

1466
01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:48,360
saying that 2024 or 20252026 
Indianapolis Colts should have 

1467
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,160
had a quarterback room of those 
3 gentlemen. 

1468
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:55,160
Yeah, I mean, I like it. 
I hate it. 

1469
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:00,120
It's just they're too much 
alike. 

1470
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,360
I mean, there's there's 
something to that. 

1471
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,960
Yes, of course. 
But no, I just I think this this

1472
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,720
works. 
Let's go to running backs. 

1473
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:13,000
We haven't talked about Carolina
at all yet, really, maybe all 

1474
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:16,800
year. 
But Tuba Hubbard, nice story 

1475
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,440
last season. 
Of course, the Brooks injury 

1476
01:14:19,440 --> 01:14:23,000
opens things up all the way for 
him, and he paid off Rico 

1477
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:27,240
Dowdell there. 
Now on this chart you see the 

1478
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,520
dotted line between Hubbard and 
Dowdell. 

1479
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,520
What does that move do for you 
guys? 

1480
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:42,480
It feels like Tuba's falling, 
and that feels great when you're

1481
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,120
sitting in the fifth round and 
need a running back because 

1482
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:50,960
Tuba's there now. 
I, I think in this running back 

1483
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:54,880
class, we just don't if you're, 
if you have Chuba, you just 

1484
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:56,760
don't want them to take a 
running back, right? 

1485
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:59,560
Like that's and they have Chuba 
signed. 

1486
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:02,400
They shouldn't right? 
They, they really shouldn't. 

1487
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:07,400
You get, you get Rico Dowdle 
brought in $6.2 million, which 

1488
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:11,120
is, you know, not nothing and 
will probably mix in you've 

1489
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,560
Jonathan Brooks. 
You know, you can't count on 

1490
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,480
anything from him. 
They cut Miles Sanders, but like

1491
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,280
it's possible that Rico's just 
like this, the one for one 

1492
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:24,160
replacement for Miles Sanders 
and you just have like Chuba is 

1493
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,040
the lead back and they don't 
draft someone now. 

1494
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:29,200
So I'm kind of into Chuba. 
I think it, I was going to say, 

1495
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:35,320
I think if you're a big Chuba 
bowl, this is better than Damian

1496
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,840
Martinez or Burchard's like 
someone with like some juice or 

1497
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,440
whatever, because Hubbard is 
clearly like, I think Hubbard is

1498
01:15:42,440 --> 01:15:44,800
just like a good NFL. 
Running. 

1499
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:48,000
Back these numbers. 
Last year were awesome. 

1500
01:15:48,480 --> 01:15:52,400
Yeah, you just kind of have to 
hope that Bryce Young continues 

1501
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,240
on this developmental curve. 
Like if Bryce Young takes a real

1502
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:59,400
progression and the offense is 
just not as good, then you know,

1503
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:01,480
it's fine. 
And I kind of I started out 

1504
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:06,160
lower on Hubbard because my read
of the situation was the 

1505
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:10,120
Panthers clearly view running 
back as a position to solve, 

1506
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:12,240
right? 
Because they take Brooks after 

1507
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,840
getting that season out of 
Hubbard, like a very 

1508
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:18,640
unexpectedly, they still took 
Brooks with the shaky knee and 

1509
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,400
everything. 
Now I think they're just like, 

1510
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,520
OK, well, Brooks is we're just 
never going to like he's just 

1511
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:27,120
never going to play for us. 
Really tore the same ACL twice. 

1512
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:31,720
So I was worried that, oh, 
running back is a position we 

1513
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:33,840
have to solve. 
We're taking Amory and Hampton. 

1514
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:37,040
We're taking Caleb Johnson, 
we're taking Quin, Sean Judkins 

1515
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,560
or whoever. 
I think this probably means 

1516
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,040
they're not going to do that. 
Like, I think they're just like,

1517
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,160
this is our backfield, so it's 
good for Hubbard. 

1518
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:46,120
I think. 
When do you think Hubbard hits 

1519
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,200
free agency? 
What year is he a unrestricted 

1520
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:52,160
free agent? 
Probably next year, right? 

1521
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,080
I I. 2029. 
Yeah, they signed him. 

1522
01:16:57,960 --> 01:16:59,920
Well, when's when's the out on 
his deal? 

1523
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:04,520
Though the out is after this 
year but cap hit of 6.3 million 

1524
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:07,000
next year which is what they're 
paying Rico Dowdle. 

1525
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,680
So probably keep him at that 
price. 

1526
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,960
And then you only save 2,000,000
by cutting him 9 million the 

1527
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,680
year after. 
Save 6,000,000 by cutting him in

1528
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,800
2028. 
They paid him during the season,

1529
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:19,600
right? 
He's not. 

1530
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:21,840
During the season, I. 
I'll say this they. 

1531
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,240
Paid him during the season. 
He's not going to be on the 

1532
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,520
Panthers in 2027. 
Or or. 

1533
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,280
I think he easily could. 
Be on the Panthers in 2027 at a 

1534
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,200
$9 million price tag. 
I don't it's not that much, 

1535
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,880
especially with the cap going 
up. 2028 year old Chuba Hubbard,

1536
01:17:36,480 --> 01:17:39,200
it just feels like these guys 
these guys never see that year 

1537
01:17:39,440 --> 01:17:41,840
like remember when Josh Jacobs 
deal got reported and then 

1538
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,560
basically it was just oh this is
just a sequence of one year 

1539
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,000
deals and then the Packers can 
get out of it whenever they. 

1540
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:48,480
That's what it. 
Looks like to me. 

1541
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,560
Isn't the point though that like
about their commitment to him as

1542
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,960
as their planning going forward 
and what that should mean for 

1543
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:57,600
his volume this year? 
Which is all good. 

1544
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,240
Yes, yes, yes. 
And and this deal was signed. 

1545
01:18:00,440 --> 01:18:03,440
So I, I agree, Davis, about 
everything the Panthers were 

1546
01:18:03,440 --> 01:18:07,840
doing before last season, but in
season they're like, well, we 

1547
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,600
think we've, we figured out one 
part of this, which is that we 

1548
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:14,640
would like to have Chuba Hubbard
on our roster at a decent price 

1549
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:18,520
tag for potentially for the next
5 years. 

1550
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:19,880
Right. 
They have no reason to do it 

1551
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,400
then, right? 
Yeah, let's, let's make sure 

1552
01:18:22,440 --> 01:18:26,680
because I like this contract 
like it's a, it's a $5.7 million

1553
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:30,520
cap hit this year, 6.3 the next 
year, 9 the year after, 10 the 

1554
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:31,960
year after that. 
You probably get out of the 10 

1555
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:35,560
year you save 9 million or 8 and
a half million by cutting then 

1556
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,600
it's more like 9. 
But the years before that, it's 

1557
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:42,240
like, I don't know, is that kind
of what a backup running back or

1558
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,800
a not true backup, but like a 
guy in a committee is going to 

1559
01:18:46,440 --> 01:18:50,200
be worth like maybe, you know, 
it's not like there's money. 

1560
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,000
He's probably undervalued in 
dynasty the way you're laying 

1561
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,520
this out. 
Yeah, I, I, I think they could 

1562
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,320
base their long term plan could 
be like not necessarily to feed 

1563
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:03,400
this guy, but that we have found
a guy who is very solidly 

1564
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:06,480
capable of being in the mix for 
us and a really a really good 

1565
01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:10,000
backup at worst for a long time.
And so I don't know that they're

1566
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,200
like, we got to solve running 
back. 

1567
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:15,160
We got to solve running back, 
you know, like that this 

1568
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,960
contract is like one year like 
we found a guy, we found a guy, 

1569
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:19,320
we would like him around for a 
while. 

1570
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:25,880
So I, I don't think that they 
are, you know, out of the 

1571
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:28,720
running back business in the in 
day three, but I at this point 

1572
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:29,560
would be. 
Surprised. 

1573
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:33,400
Well, no, no team is out of like
teams will just you know the. 

1574
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:36,760
Early day three, let's say round
four, round five, yeah, but but 

1575
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:38,880
I would be surprised if they 
take a guy day 2 at this point 

1576
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:42,560
with the Rico contract as well. 
Like Rico was good last year. 

1577
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:44,400
They get him at a good at a good
price tag. 

1578
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,520
They they still have Jonathan 
Brooks as as a potential like 

1579
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,520
late season upside thing. 
No. 

1580
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,760
Yeah, you bring him in and you 
get a little juice up. 

1581
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:54,280
Not for us. 
I'm not drafting him, no. 

1582
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,760
Brooks is not playing this year.
I think they've already said 

1583
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:58,240
that. 
OK, OK. 

1584
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:00,080
All right. 
That's probably right. 

1585
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,720
Let me, let me double because I 
think he had to have another 

1586
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:07,920
surgery. 
I'm going to I'm going to pull 

1587
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:12,200
up his rotoworld.com. 
Well, we don't know, but he 

1588
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,560
shouldn't play. 
There's just really no reason to

1589
01:20:15,480 --> 01:20:19,800
make that happen. 
Yeah, yeah, he players, players 

1590
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:24,840
do play, but the The Athletics 
Joseph Person writes that 

1591
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:27,280
Jonathan Brooks is likely to 
miss most of. 

1592
01:20:27,440 --> 01:20:32,040
All Yeah, yeah, fair enough. 
So they're not counting on 

1593
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:33,040
anything. 
But I don't know that you're 

1594
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:36,280
going to bring in like, you 
know, RJ Harvey, 'cause you, 

1595
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:38,080
'cause you don't. 
Count on no, no, no. 

1596
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:42,080
It would be like. 
It would be like, I don't know. 

1597
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:45,120
Marcus Yarnis. 
Marcus Yarns, yeah, Round round 

1598
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,840
7, Marcus Yarns. 
He surprisingly makes the team 

1599
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:50,240
and is like their kick returner 
or something. 

1600
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,880
So he's active on game day, Pat 
active on game day. 

1601
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:55,920
That's our, that's our, that's 
our favorite thing. 

1602
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,480
I, I want to talk about, to be 
clear, I, I do think Brooks is 

1603
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:01,120
like not in the player pool. 
That's. 

1604
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:03,160
I. 
I want to talk about Jordan 

1605
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:06,360
Mason because I think this is 
another thing where ADP inertia 

1606
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,480
comes in. 
Think if we all got wiped clean 

1607
01:21:08,480 --> 01:21:15,040
and redid it right now he would 
be in the Charbonnay tier of of 

1608
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:18,240
guys. 
Like a clear clear stand alone 

1609
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:24,360
value option with giga mega 
contingent and is probably of 

1610
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:27,800
all backfields in the NFL, least
likely to get competition in the

1611
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,200
NFL draft because the Vikings 
still only have 4 picks. 

1612
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:35,160
Yeah, Mason's a smash right now.
Mason's a smash, yeah. 

1613
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:40,160
Another guy that did well by 
having a good game against the 

1614
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:43,360
team that wanted him. 
Oh yes, Arnold killed. 

1615
01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:45,520
He killed. 
Yes, he killed the Vikings. 

1616
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:47,520
That's so true. 
Made a good impression. 

1617
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,920
We need we need so we we're good
at the revenge game stuff, 

1618
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:52,760
right? 
That's like fully baked in. 

1619
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:56,880
But what we need unrestricted 
free agent going against an 

1620
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:58,720
offense. 
They could use a running back 

1621
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:00,320
next year. 
That's the new that's the 

1622
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:02,240
narrative I want us to get to in
DFS. 

1623
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:04,760
Like this guy. 
This guy needs to impress. 

1624
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,280
This is a job interview game. 
He doesn't. 

1625
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:09,760
Know it game here. 
He doesn't know it, but right 

1626
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:11,320
now he's actually applying for a
job. 

1627
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,240
Maybe he does know it. 
Maybe he does know it. 

1628
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,800
Yeah, he's running backs. 
They should catch on like dude, 

1629
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:19,400
Jordan Mason got, Yeah, they 
traded for this guy. 

1630
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,320
He was. 
He wasn't even an unrestricted 

1631
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:23,880
free agent yet. 
In a way, that's how everybody 

1632
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,680
plays every week, right? 
Like just so there's this. 

1633
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,080
Comment about San Francisco 
being a better spot than 

1634
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,000
Minnesota. 
I mean this is like the worst 

1635
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:32,640
reading of a situation I can 
imagine. 

1636
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:36,720
The 1st is no guarantee that he 
was even the running back too. 

1637
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:38,760
In San Francisco. 
Dorindo played well enough. 

1638
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:43,680
Also, famously, I don't, I don't
believe the 49ers with Shanahan 

1639
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:45,960
have ever not drafted a running 
back. 

1640
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:50,400
I believe every year they've at 
least drafted 1 and I believe in

1641
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:54,120
over half of the drafts they've 
taken a running back before day 

1642
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:56,240
three. 
So you're not safe there at all.

1643
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,440
The other thing is when 
McCaffrey has been healthy, 

1644
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,280
there has not been enough 
touches for any second running 

1645
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:05,160
back at all. 
Kyle Yuzchek re signed, he plays

1646
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:07,280
third downs. 
Third downs are not available 

1647
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:09,680
for a second running back on the
team. 

1648
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:14,520
It, it, it, it is unbelievable 
how bad actually the San 

1649
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:18,720
Francisco spot is for. 
Tuesday at 100 is like, 

1650
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:20,400
perfectly. 
On brand for them. 

1651
01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:22,720
If you're doing mock drafts, 
just go ahead, just put that you

1652
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:24,120
could just put that in right 
now. 

1653
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:29,320
I I believe that the the stat is
he averaged 7.8 yards per carry 

1654
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:33,240
on outside zone runs, which is 
the I mean it's basically the 

1655
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:38,760
49ers run. 
There's also there's also a fair

1656
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:40,560
chance that the team is way 
worse. 

1657
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,160
I mean, they're, there's, what 
is it? 

1658
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:50,240
They're negative $259 million in
free agency, Netspend, in terms 

1659
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:55,560
of money they've saved and money
that has gone out like players 

1660
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:57,640
that are not on their team side 
to another team. 

1661
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:02,120
Age. 
Yeah, yeah, but 49ers fans, the 

1662
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:05,040
number 2 rolls never save. 
I I do think that this is cause 

1663
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,760
yeah, Garrendo. 
Is like the least safe running 

1664
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:12,400
back to in the world. 
Yeah, they're the reason is 

1665
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:16,000
because it's called the NFL 
draft and you know, it could be 

1666
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:19,120
quite bad for him. 
Minnesota, it was always like 

1667
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:21,640
kind of weird, like how are they
going to get their running back?

1668
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:24,760
Because they don't, they don't 
have 4 picks in the whole draft 

1669
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:28,840
like you said, and one of them's
in the first round where they're

1670
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:29,920
not going to take a running 
back. 

1671
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,080
So it's like my brother's a 
Vikings fan. 

1672
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,360
He was like, I hope we trade 
down and then like use the pick 

1673
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:37,960
we get by trading down to draft 
a running back, you know? 

1674
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:41,800
This is just I'm just doing some
historical 49ers research here. 

1675
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:45,400
This was the 2020, so the COVID 
year 49ers backfield. 

1676
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,760
This was the final Jimmy G 
season. 

1677
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,040
Jeff Wilson, Junior Raheem 
Moser, Jerich McKinnon, Jim 

1678
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:54,360
Michael Hastie, Tevin Coleman, 
All with more than 30 rushes. 

1679
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:58,320
I mean, just like if you think 
your running back too is safe 

1680
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:00,400
there, then look at the 
backfield the next year. 

1681
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:05,080
The 20. 20. 
One the 2021 49ers had Elijah 

1682
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:09,520
Mitchell, Jeff Wilson, Debo they
took Trey Sermon that year and 

1683
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:11,800
then never played him 'cause he 
stinks. 

1684
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,200
It's just like you. 
You think your running back too 

1685
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:15,960
is safe. 
Then you're about to learn a 

1686
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:18,320
name buddy. 
The 49ers of the ultimate You're

1687
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:21,520
about to learn a name backfield.
You know Davis Price. 

1688
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:24,840
Literally. 
And Davis Price? 

1689
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,000
Breda. 
Breda had just left. 

1690
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:29,000
Maybe by 2020. 
We're trying to figure out what 

1691
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,640
kind of role he would get. 
Yeah, it's always, I mean. 

1692
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,600
This we just we just learned 
Patrick Taylor's name last year.

1693
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,760
Like we, they truly teach us 
names every year. 

1694
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:41,640
The the famous example is Joe 
Williams, who who Kyle Shanahan 

1695
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:45,600
is like obsessed with, like 
can't like sleep because he's 

1696
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:48,200
thinking about Joe Williams. 
And then Joe Williams, they 

1697
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:51,280
trade up for him and he 
literally never plays. 

1698
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:56,000
Do you think that like it is, is
John Lynch like, hey, Kyle, 

1699
01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:00,240
maybe let's work these guys out 
before we draft them next time? 

1700
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,480
You, you seem to make up your 
mind pretty quick. 

1701
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,800
Can we get, if we extend the 
workout 30 minutes, do we not 

1702
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:09,480
have to draft TDP again? 
Like what's going on? 

1703
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:14,360
Or Trey Lance at pick 3. 
Well, Mac Jones, he finally that

1704
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,280
I mean you want to talk about 
the, the, the loop, the loop 

1705
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:19,520
being closed. 
I mean, Mac Jones, who Kyle 

1706
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:21,400
wanted originally, is now a 
49er. 

1707
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:23,840
Should we should we discount 
Brock Purdy because they're 

1708
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:25,160
they're going to start Mac Jones
now if. 

1709
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:28,800
You got. 
If you gave me enough truth 

1710
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:30,240
theorem, I think you could get 
me there. 

1711
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,280
I could just get you wasted on 
truth serum. 

1712
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:36,240
Finally about to pass out like 
Mac Jones is going to start from

1713
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:37,480
40. 
Niners Mac Jones is starting. 

1714
01:26:37,480 --> 01:26:45,680
Week 3 for the. 49ers. 
Rock Birdie not getting his 

1715
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:48,240
contract extension because Kyle 
finally got back Jones. 

1716
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:54,000
Wide receiver slide. 
All right, let me get it. 

1717
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:59,360
We we see Godwin here and 
McMillan, who we talked about 

1718
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:02,920
already. 
Cooper Cup to Seattle, JSN 

1719
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:06,480
looking good in the what? 
Late second, early third round. 

1720
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:13,560
Puka and Adams. 
Up and JSN together is like it's

1721
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:16,360
like the spider man pointing me 
but like a shitty version of it 

1722
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:19,640
where one of them is like in the
spider man costume but doesn't 

1723
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:21,400
have the powers. 
Like didn't get bit by the 

1724
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,400
radioactive spider. 
He just has the costume on that 

1725
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,240
is Cooper Cup at this stage in 
his career. 

1726
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:30,400
I know it's kind of dangerous 
that we don't want to, like, 

1727
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:34,960
think about what you know, could
happen or is likely to happen is

1728
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:35,960
like the only thing that can 
happen. 

1729
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:39,640
And it's possible that Seattle's
really good this year. 

1730
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:44,280
But if you think about the teams
that are like most likely to 

1731
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:48,640
completely implode and like 
functionally like not be teams 

1732
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:53,600
this year, Seattle, I mean, the 
Colts are probably like the 

1733
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:58,920
number one, but Seattle is very 
high on the list, especially 

1734
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:03,200
like teams that, you know, 
aren't completely in the in the 

1735
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:05,840
wilderness right now. 
A quarterback like teams that 

1736
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:08,600
like functionally look like they
have it together on paper. 

1737
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,920
This Sam Darnold deal being like
a basically a one year deal they

1738
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:15,000
can get out of they get rid of 
Metcalf. 

1739
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:20,440
They're they they signed Cooper 
Cup is a you know, like you're 

1740
01:28:20,440 --> 01:28:22,640
saying, just kind of like a 
mirror image of JSN. 

1741
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:25,960
It doesn't feel that the 
offensive line is still a 

1742
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:28,880
problem like this. 
The offensive line was a problem

1743
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:31,120
when they had Geno Smith who 
gets the ball out really 

1744
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:32,960
quickly. 
Now they have Sam Darnold who's 

1745
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:36,240
super, super pressure sensitive 
like this. 

1746
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:41,400
This really feels like it could 
be an implosion type of type of 

1747
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:46,160
season where it like like clean 
house, you know, after after the

1748
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:51,720
season, the downs, I don't know,
it's just like, and part of it 

1749
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:55,400
is the the Darnold's, the 
Darnold Digeno switch. 

1750
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,440
Like I, I don't love that. 
I really don't. 

1751
01:29:00,440 --> 01:29:02,040
And this is my. 
Fully committed to it. 

1752
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:03,880
You know, it's like they're, 
they're kind of like, well, 

1753
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:05,920
let's see if it works and if 
not, we can cut them. 

1754
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:09,920
This is my Jackson Dart team. 
I think they kind of know. 

1755
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:13,560
It's this. 
It's this or the Steelers? 

1756
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:17,480
That that would make a lot more 
sense, like their offseason 

1757
01:29:17,480 --> 01:29:20,960
would start to feel a lot more 
coherent if they if they did 

1758
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:23,320
Jackson Dart, Yeah. 
If if they internally have been 

1759
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:25,880
like he's going to be there when
we pick, we like him. 

1760
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:28,920
Darnold is the bridge 
quarterback because I think the 

1761
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:31,960
way the Darnold contract works 
is it's effectively cascading 

1762
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:34,320
one year deals where they can 
just choose to opt out of it 

1763
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:36,240
whenever. 
Yeah. 

1764
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:39,400
Although I think it's sort of 
like like the Daniel Jones 

1765
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,760
contract from the year before 
where like they need. 

1766
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,400
Massive injury guarantees. 
Yeah. 

1767
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:48,000
And they they can get out. 
Yeah, he's got a passive 

1768
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,840
physical for them to get out. 
And that's where I think like 

1769
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:55,280
when I start to get like like 
really nervous about the way the

1770
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,880
end of season Seahawks could 
look, it's because they'd like 

1771
01:29:57,880 --> 01:29:59,840
they've missed the playoffs and 
now they're actually 

1772
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:03,160
incentivized to move on from 
darn old, which means benching 

1773
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:07,040
him for who Sam Howell. 
If it's Sam Howell, like I just 

1774
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:08,840
I don't want I saw that last 
year. 

1775
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:13,760
I don't want that like and it's 
a terrible fit for both JSN and 

1776
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:15,120
Cooper Cup. 
Like if you're going to have 

1777
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,080
Howell, at least give him a 
Terry McLaren or something that 

1778
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:21,840
can run down feel like it's. 
If they have to start, the next 

1779
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:23,480
slide is Seahawks. 
By the way, Pat, while you're 

1780
01:30:23,480 --> 01:30:26,840
talking about this. 
If if you have Jackson Dart as 

1781
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:30,080
the guy you potentially bench 
Darnold for, then that makes me 

1782
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,240
sleep a lot better at night 
because you you start to think 

1783
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:35,600
about the end of the season 
looking more like, you know, 

1784
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:37,440
panics with the Falcons. 
And it's like, oh, this is 

1785
01:30:37,440 --> 01:30:39,080
actually kind of promising right
now. 

1786
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:43,160
So yeah, it. 
These are not great numbers on 

1787
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:47,080
cup to say the least. 
Like no, the the metrics last 

1788
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:50,840
year were not kind. 
So I don't know, Sam. 

1789
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:52,640
Sam, how it would be good for 
MVS? 

1790
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:57,920
What do you? 
Yeah, I I think this is the 

1791
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:01,920
Jackson Dart team. 
And frankly, the combination of 

1792
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:06,880
basically like this trade Geno 
to the Raiders and then signing 

1793
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:13,640
Darnold, that got me to stop 
drafting Jackson Dart every time

1794
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:16,120
because I was like, well, that 
basically knocked out two spots 

1795
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:18,800
for him to start 17 games 
because the Raiders would have 

1796
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:21,080
been an option. 
The Seahawks would have been an 

1797
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:24,680
option. 
And and so, well, I guess he 

1798
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:26,680
would have been the bridge in 
Seattle still, but it knocked 

1799
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:30,080
out it effectively kind of 
knocked out a spot and 1/2 for 

1800
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:31,960
him. 
You could have seen him going in

1801
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:35,600
for Gino at some point in 
Seattle, but not in Vegas and 

1802
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:36,840
not for Darnold. 
It's different. 

1803
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:42,280
Yeah, exactly. 
As we close on the previous 

1804
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:45,720
slide, sorry Pat, there are two 
names or I wanted to bring up 

1805
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:49,000
quickly, Stefan Diggs and Keenan
Allen. 

1806
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:53,080
Yesterday I woke up to, oh, 
Stefan Diggs reposted all his 

1807
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:55,120
Buffalo pictures on his social 
media. 

1808
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,640
So we spent 5 seconds on is 
there any chance? 

1809
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:02,120
And everybody seemed to think 
there's no chance of, of Diggs 

1810
01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:04,920
being brought back here. 
Keenan Allen just kind of sits 

1811
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:09,120
out there and didn't, if I'm not
wrong, didn't drop off like cup 

1812
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:13,120
last year for the Bears. 
I mean, what's productive is you

1813
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:17,680
guys see him as maybe a value or
though is it too late to think 

1814
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:19,880
that he could actually land 
somewhere that we like? 

1815
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:24,080
I think he kind of needs to 
resign with Chicago. 

1816
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:28,200
Yeah, unsigned on March 18th. 
It better be Chicago, because if

1817
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:30,640
it's not Chicago, it means no 
one really wants him. 

1818
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:34,760
Yeah, well, no one really wants 
him, but I think at least 

1819
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:38,000
Chicago you'd have, you know, 
the the consistency with the 

1820
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:39,280
quarterback. 
New England. 

1821
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:43,400
I mean, literally like anyone on
New England would be. 

1822
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:47,640
So you would have such a the 
ability to consolidate targets 

1823
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,440
that you'd have to kind of like 
leave the the light on. 

1824
01:32:50,440 --> 01:32:55,080
But yeah, outside of New 
England, it's it's not OK. 

1825
01:32:55,920 --> 01:33:00,200
I'm drafting Diane Brown at the 
end of Drafts Jacksonville. 

1826
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:02,800
Good money. 
I'm drafting Nick Westbrook, 

1827
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:05,840
Akini a little bit also in the 
last round for Miami. 

1828
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:11,120
No Nick Westbrook Akeen for me. 
I'm thinking a little bit of 

1829
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:15,400
Diami. 
Well, as you would say, stay 

1830
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:18,120
poor, get get used to staying 
poor. 

1831
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:21,600
Yeah, I mean, Nick Westbrook, 
Akeen's 29 years old. 

1832
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:25,760
He has just like, I mean, he, he
did score touchdowns last year. 

1833
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:30,880
Yeah, I'm, I'm, I have a hard 
time getting excited about it. 

1834
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:32,440
Yeah. 
I mean, Jalen Waddle couldn't 

1835
01:33:32,440 --> 01:33:34,320
put up numbers in this offense 
last year. 

1836
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:37,600
Elijah Moore I I am surprised 
Elijah Moore is unsigned. 

1837
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:41,040
Actually, I, I kind of thought 
he would like, I thought he 

1838
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:42,920
would be in the 1st wave of free
agency. 

1839
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:47,600
So I also am not taking him. 
Westbrook Air. 

1840
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:50,440
Shade. 
For just quickly Westbrook, 

1841
01:33:50,440 --> 01:33:53,240
Keene might be a name for your 
contingent value receiver 

1842
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:56,200
thought earlier Davis when we're
talking about McMillan with 

1843
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:59,160
Tyreek's age, I don't know, 
maybe there's something possible

1844
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:01,200
there. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1845
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:03,800
It's just I, I think Malik 
Washington is better than him. 

1846
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:06,680
So it's hard for me to move off 
that prior. 

1847
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:11,320
Yeah, I don't know. 
I just that that's not an 

1848
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:14,720
offense where I really want to 
be invested in ancillary pieces,

1849
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:18,920
especially, you know, a wide 
receiver like Jonnu and a Chan 

1850
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:22,800
are going to gobble up like if 
if Tyree Kill and Waddle aren't,

1851
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:25,680
you know, getting the targets, 
it's going to be it's going to 

1852
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:26,680
be the running back of the tight
end. 

1853
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:30,560
I think it's just the offense is
kind of already accounted for. 

1854
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:31,880
You know, the targets are 
already accounted for. 

1855
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:33,960
Yep. 
And I would feel differently if,

1856
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:36,280
like Nick Westbrook, Akinen was 
really intriguing or something. 

1857
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:37,880
But he's. 
If he's better, he'd like it 

1858
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:39,520
more if he's better. 
Yeah. 

1859
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:41,800
He'd like him a little bit more 
if he's a little, just a little 

1860
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:44,400
bit better. 
How bearish is it for Amari 

1861
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:48,640
Cooper that the Patriots were 
like, really like what we saw 

1862
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:49,880
out of this bill's wide 
receiver? 

1863
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:52,400
Let's bring him in. 
And they meant Mac Collins. 

1864
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:56,080
That that seems bad to me. 
Yeah, you know, Cooper isn't 

1865
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:59,800
even on here. 
Jacob mentioned the Matthew 

1866
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:04,000
Berry thing and there was a Bill
source who said who you know, 

1867
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:05,960
implied that they thought Cooper
was done cooked. 

1868
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:08,000
Yeah. 
Super cooked. 

1869
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:10,720
And so we've talked about like, 
who that source probably is. 

1870
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:13,960
I would guess it's the GMI don't
know, but like, who's a bill 

1871
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:15,160
source, right? 
It's not going to be an 

1872
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:17,800
assistant trainer. 
It's going to be somebody high 

1873
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:20,040
up that he can't name. 
It's probably, you know, there's

1874
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:22,520
a reason why he wasn't or hasn't
been brought back at least. 

1875
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:23,720
Cooper. 
Yeah. 

1876
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:25,160
All right. 
How are we liking Tuesday 

1877
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:27,840
mornings? 
It's great for me. 

1878
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:28,600
Good. 
Yeah. 

1879
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:31,360
I I love a Tuesday morning. 
Works well. 

1880
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:33,440
I like it. 
I got through the the cold brew.

1881
01:35:33,440 --> 01:35:37,560
The cold brew wasn't necessary, 
but you know, I can keep, I can 

1882
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:40,080
keep throwing some some coffee 
into water. 

1883
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,520
It's easy enough. 
Yeah, we get the coffee pours 

1884
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:45,640
going. 
You watered it down with water, 

1885
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:49,320
coffee, not you can just put ice
cubes in it. 

1886
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:53,720
Well, look, I mean, when you So 
what I do is I take like half a 

1887
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:57,840
bag of grounds and I throw it 
into water for a few days and 

1888
01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:02,160
the water to grounds ratio is 
such that when it comes out it's

1889
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:04,400
oil. 
You know, it's literal like 

1890
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:07,600
I've, I've I've struck oil. 
It starts spurting everywhere. 

1891
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:10,400
You know you capture it in the 
in the in the flask. 

1892
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:13,240
I I just make it. 
You got to cut it with water. 

1893
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:15,320
It will. 
Your heart will explode. 

1894
01:36:15,480 --> 01:36:17,320
I I just make it in the French 
press. 

1895
01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:20,280
I just put like 4 tablespoons in
the French press and just yeah, 

1896
01:36:20,440 --> 01:36:22,400
yeah, yeah. 
I like every morning like I 

1897
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:25,480
finish my coffee at like 10:00 
AM or whatever and then I but 

1898
01:36:25,480 --> 01:36:26,360
you just. 
Refill it up. 

1899
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:28,520
You're not making cold brew in 
the French press, you're making 

1900
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:30,480
a French press hot cup of 
coffee. 

1901
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:31,960
Right. 
No, no, I'm sitting in the 

1902
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:34,040
refrigerator for 20 hours or 
whatever. 

1903
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:37,200
Oh and then so it just the 
grounds just sit there and then 

1904
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:39,560
I French press it. 
That's a good idea. 

1905
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:41,560
I haven't thought. 
I haven't thought of that in. 

1906
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:43,440
The morning. 
No, it's, it's, it's great and 

1907
01:36:43,440 --> 01:36:47,800
it's not as concentrated. 
I can't even comprehend cold 

1908
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,280
coffee. 
I guess maybe I could try it. 

1909
01:36:50,480 --> 01:36:53,920
That's that's how we know 
there's here's the age divide. 

1910
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:56,360
This is one of the first times 
the age divide is. 

1911
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:59,200
Really, I think, I think when I 
was your age, I'd never even 

1912
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:02,400
tried coffee at all. 
It wasn't until my kids came to 

1913
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:05,640
America, yet it was still. 
Making it still it was. 

1914
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:07,640
Still, it was still making its 
way up. 

1915
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:09,000
I never. 
You would. 

1916
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:11,080
I was never. 
These coffee. 

1917
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:14,160
Beans I was never even tempted 
to drink coffee it's making. 

1918
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:16,240
Its way up from the West Indies 
when you were young. 

1919
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:25,160
OK, I'm I'm that notes. 
You had a caravan of goods that 

1920
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:26,840
you were hoping to trade for 
coffee. 

1921
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:37,240
That's fair, that's fair. 
We'll end it under. 

1922
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:39,560
That's fair. 
Great to have Jacob Sanderson 

1923
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:42,000
with us at Davis. 
What are you doing this week? 

1924
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:44,960
More the same. 
Swell cast right after this that

1925
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:50,160
I'm doing March Madness with 
Alex Harden from ETR this 

1926
01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:53,040
afternoon on on my channel. 
What's your favorite way to play

1927
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:56,040
the tournament like Survivor? 
Survivor. 

1928
01:37:56,680 --> 01:37:59,000
Survivor, I mean, I do, I'll do 
all the brackets. 

1929
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:02,960
I'm in Missouri, so I can't do 
like the bit like I can't join 

1930
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:07,800
the BIG4 money bracket contest, 
but I'm in, I'm in AI don't know

1931
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:11,000
four or five different pools and
I'll be out by Sunday. 

1932
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:13,880
But that Thursday and Friday, 
man, you're you just you're not.

1933
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:16,120
You're not beating that. 
One winner each day. 

1934
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:19,640
Yes, yeah, 11 winner each day. 
It's the best. 

1935
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:23,800
Very good. 
Tuesdays at 10 Eastern are new 

1936
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:25,760
time. 
Great to have Jacob along for 

1937
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:26,720
Pat and Davis. 
I'm Mike. 

1938
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:29,040
Thanks for watching. 
Let me let me just say we're 

1939
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:32,200
we're expecting to have the the 
sidekick live for DraftKings in 

1940
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:36,000
it hopefully today. 
If not, wow, there we go look 

1941
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:40,160
for that and yeah, we'll be 
we'll have some some content up 

1942
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:42,320
on the site at over legendary 
upside this week, but. 

1943
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:44,800
Very good. 
Yeah, Thank you, guys. 

1944
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:46,320
Thanks to Zach, too, for all his
good work. 

1945
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:47,120
See you next week.
