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Today is May 15th the week. 17 
schedule has been released and 

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we say goodbye today's of 
galaxies branding, divisional 

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matchups. 
Today, we are joined by a man 

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who won two million dollars, by 
leveraging week 17 correlation 

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and the author of the original 
week 17 article back in 2021, as

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the foremost experts on the 
space will talk through our 

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favorite ways to attack week 17 
and other ATP movement. 

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This is ATP. 
Chasing let 

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Clearly doing a great job 
hosting. 

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I hit the hit, the outro music 
and said instead of intro, but 

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uh, I'm a little bit is yeah, a 
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Little early people are already 
triggered by week 17. 

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We had to end the show 
immediately but anyways, 

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actually Pat. 
We're gonna Davis Davis here. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Those are we doing? 

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How was, how was your weekend 
doing good? 

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A lot of dressing, this weather 
here. 

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A lot of drafting I did a lot of
puppies last night. 

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A lot of puppies I did, I did a 
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got five puppies knocked out. 
Well, I did it. 

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So we put these Elizabeth's. 
It is 97% full filled the puppy.

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Yeah. 
It's Gonna Fill today. 

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I'm tempted to do one right now.
I gotta say, what is your guys 

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optimal like multi-table? 
Number four for the giraffes. 

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Sorry if I'm 100% locked in, I 
can do seven optimal is probably

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five and three, three is the 
perfect number of you don't need

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to be scrambling around. 
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not like 

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100% locked in in terms of like 
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everything yet. 
So I would not be doing seven at

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a time right now, but in a 
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at a time. 
I can get past for without 

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starting make mistakes. 
Yeah, for me, it's this without 

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the week 17 and playoff 
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Stuff I could do like six and 
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Okay, but now once you add that 
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I'm just going to be so shitty 
at correlating for week, 17. 

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If I have to multi-table table. 
That man. 

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Yeah, thank Sam. 
You got like an eye patch thing 

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going here with the with the 
banner up top, can we Yeah. 

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Yeah, I can learn a bit of it. 
Yeah. 

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But anyways. 
Yeah, the week 17 stuff is out. 

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There's obviously a ton of by 
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difference. 
Although yeah and they're not 

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they're not in the underdog and 
like look I you know, I love 

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gambling, but I'm not going to 
memorize every team's by weeks 

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for the four days that the, by 
we should not available. 

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So I Maybe unknowingly have 
drafted dead teams, you know it 

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in the last five days or 
whatever. 

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So, hope not. 
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with the by weeks up, but mostly
just to make sure my 

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quarterbacks weren't the same. 
I do think if you're someone had

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a thread recently that was 
basically like, look, don't you 

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have two quarterbacks and same, 
buddy? 

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Yeah, I think it was a Neil Neil
Farley meal. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
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paraphrase it quickly is, In 
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second and third place is like 
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oftentimes what you're 
sacrificing when you take two 

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quarterbacks to the Same by 
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So I think it is one of those 
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Edge and it's not going to kill 
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But like, unless your Stacks 
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it makes sense to do it. 
I'm avoiding it. 

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The one spot that I was really 
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doing it in is I was I took 
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Then I pulled up the by weeks as
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her to, my backup quarterback is
really just to help me advance 

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just to, you know, fill in a 
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you a weird team in week 17. 
Yeah, right. 

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But that's the odds of that 
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So and I was, I was punting 
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I wanted to get someone in like 
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know, if you take like two or 
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different story. 
But anyway, Stafford has the 

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same bye week as hurt. 
So I was It's like okay I can't 

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do Stafford have to build this 
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late quarterback to but I think 
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if I was to have like Herbert 
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through 10 range maybe I would 
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Like slightly less. 
Okay, let me let me show you. 

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Let me sell you on a 
combinatorial Galaxy brand. 

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Let's do it. 
Stacking two teams that have the

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same by week. 
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quarterback is going to ensure 
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ownership because other people 
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So say you take a quarterback a 
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from a team of the week 8 by and
then you take another 

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quarterback wide receiver and 
tight end from a team with a 

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week. 8 by you accept that in 
week eight, you're taking a zero

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at tight end, but you add a 
third quarterback, a baker, a 

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Ritter Whoever right will love 
us Mac, Jones magic. 

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Joe's gonna be starting and week
a sure. 

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Sure. 
So if and when you get these 

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teams to the playoffs of that 
team Advance, you know, say 

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quarterback a with the week. 
A bye week has a bad week 16 

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game and he's the really high 
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But your quarterback be with the
week 8 by goes off for 28 and 

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throws two touchdowns the guys, 
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a sudden you have quarterback a 
in the final with like a mega Lo

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Advance rate. 
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I think that's interesting in 
like the week or the sorry, the 

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round 18 quarterback thing in 
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because I think a lot of people 
get really caught up in the two 

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verse three, quarterback thing 
and say, you take hurts and pick

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it and then you're staring at 
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A lot of people say that's 
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You should never do that. 
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Like, I'm largely going to 
quarterback if I take an elite 

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one, but when you get into round
18, man, it's like you're 

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staring at just guys that are 
going to just be dead roster 

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spot. 
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and getting a starting 
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I don't think it's like the 
worst way to spend your round 18

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pick, like back to the draft 
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Leone's talked about. 
Pat, you've talked about that 

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round. 18 pick is worth like, 
what one dollar in your auction 

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drafts or something. 
Like I don't think it's 

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meaningfully changing your draft
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on around 18, Mac Jones. 
And I did this with Mario my 

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last year and like people say 
it's bad or whatever, but 

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Advanced two teams to the finals
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M would not have made the 
finals, but I didn't get 

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Marianas mariota's. 
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so it's like, I don't know. 
It's like I get the down side of

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it. 
There's obviously guys around 

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18, that can give you more 
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quarterbacks, but it's just 
like, so, guaranteed points in 

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some sense. 
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fine if you're playing to 
advance the team like, that's to

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me, that's what around 18 
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Most likely going to be good for
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hitting on your 18th round pick 
are very low but like there's 

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decent odds that someone in the 
18th round Ranch is going to put

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up a really good score and week 
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because of how impactful that is
to just get points out of that 

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spot. 
Your Advance rate for that 

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player is going to be pretty 
massive and so I think like 

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skipping on that lotto ticket 
there's like more opportunity 

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costs and it might seem because 
you're basically saying I'm 

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definitely not going to have the
guy who Powers teams through the

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single week elimination weeks. 
Now if you get a guy hope to 

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advance there in the first 
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trade-off. 
But the odds that it's a 

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quarterback who is one of those 
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It's not zero. 
I mean Jared Goff went off as a 

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late-round guy last year. 
So, it can happen, but I think 

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your chances are better at 
trying to find like a wide 

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receiver know, you know, last 
year. 

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Yeah. 
You know what I mean? 

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Oh, she's doing great. 
So, crane, this is where I would

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say, you know, it's again it's a
matter of what you're doing 

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because we're talking about 
Advanced rate versus banking but

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you know then you're doing the 
mental gymnastics of well yeah, 

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sure. 
So let's say you take League 

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winner X and round 18, you still
kind of need him. 

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Um, to score a lot of points in 
week 17, right? 

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To kind of justify verse because
if we're jogging Advance rate, 

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Mac Jones is likely going to 
have a better Advance rate or a 

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similar Advance rate in this 
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about as League winner X I'm 
around 18, right? 

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Mina, isn't it kind of 
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Maybe, but like getting you, I 
guess what I'm saying is Mac 

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Jones might help you advance to 
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performance is unlikely to be 
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Like even if Matt Jones has a 
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quarterbacks don't separate from
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the other positions. 
So like Mac Jones could have 25 

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for you and your other 
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doesn't have a meaningful impact
on your chances of getting 

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through. 
I mean business, the same thing 

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is kind of true with your wide 
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As if you have a team that's 
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16 or whatever. 
You probably have three other 

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High Point scores at wide 
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Probably. 
But I mean it's a more volatile 

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position and if you get a guy 
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well and if so it's basically 
these things of like is there a 

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guy in the eighteenth round 
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In week 16 week 15 16 or 17? 
Probably, yes. 

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So don't I and if you hit it and
you could really benefit if you 

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hit on that guy, you know, this 
is kind of a mental trick that 

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we play in ourselves with best 
ball to because a lot of the 

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guys that we conceived of as 
League winners guys, who were 

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free, who scored a lot of points
are largely not drafted in these

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contests, we will think about 
guys like Elijah Mitchell, 

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right? 
He was Drafted the year he broke

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out using. 
I want to say maybe he was 

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drafted in like 15 total leaves 
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quarter. 
Well, Patterson you right 

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Cordell Patterson the year. 
He totally was 18, round pick 

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and blew up. 
He was on less than 10% of teams

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taken and best Ball Mania like 
it. 

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The guys we think are our 
fantasy relevant. 

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At the end of drafts around 17, 
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A lot of those guys are guys who
end up getting cut In the main 

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event or whatever. 
So it is I think those pics are 

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a little not to say, obviously 
that if you had just taken 

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quarter of Patterson 150 times, 
like you would have supercharger

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Advance rate. 
You would have given yourself a 

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great chance to win the stupid 
million dollars or whatever, but

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also the cost of going all-in on
one of those guys and getting it

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wrong to is also catastrophic 
for this catastrophic. 

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Yeah. 
You don't want to do. 

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Yeah, so it's just it's one of 
those things where I think we're

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so far away from Understanding 
what is GTO that I don't hate 

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the round 18 quarterback, 
because around 80 quarterback, 

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start 17 games. 
It's probably going to add 

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points to your roster. 
It's probably gonna help you 

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advance rate and gets you live. 
You 17, and that unique way and 

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I think you should still like be
conscious of what I use the 

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Jalen hurd's example, maybe as 
an extreme like that's not 

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really probably when I'm adding,
they 18th ranked quarterback to 

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my roster. 
It's maybe more like you take 

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DeShaun Watson and round a and 
you know, Daniel Jones. 

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Is around 11, and then you 
stacked up taekwon Thornton and 

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JuJu. 
And then you're staring at Mac 

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Jones, round 18 verse like wide 
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at that point I'm like, okay, 
you know what? 

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I think it's still a fine draft 
Capital allocation to spend 

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another quarterback here, maybe 
Max Jones doesn't give me the 

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ceiling week. 
That helps me win week 17. 

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I think that's possible but like
Pat's that it's unlikely but 

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maybe you know one of my other 
quarterbacks is banged up and 

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week 15 and Mac Jones just gets 
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That's where like I'm okay with 
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Third QB with your eighteenth 
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be a little bit more inclined to
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saying, I'm now turning my be a 
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this is probably the time to do 
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more dead roster spots this time
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Yeah, so that so I don't want to
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quarterbacks last year, Was if 
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prefer to do it with three guys 
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And that historically has been 
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want to be drafting your third 
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like maths Matt Stafford, you 
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guy is going to help you advance
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shot as a Capacitor probably of 
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for you and so I don't actually 
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the three, prioritize, the third
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it, your last round pick because
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that I was avoiding like the 
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like he's getting benched. 
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in the playoffs are are very, 
very low. 

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That's just, I and I don't want 
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I don't want to take any of the 
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That's fair. 
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live roster spots for the 
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Can we just figure out who the 
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for and week 17. 
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plaguing me in basketball, but 
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Dynasty because I made a couple 
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Tannehill. 
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I'm starting to. 
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he's not going to be in Atlanta 
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Us, you know just as like making
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us from throwing three 
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Will Tannehill. 
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Bench is that the division is so
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their schedule and apparently 
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think it's through the first six
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It's really difficult. 
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So his thinking was there going 
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look, okay? 
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The most mandatory game for them
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5 game against the Colts. 
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just going to be Levis time. 
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if they lose that game against 
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It'll be Danielle will be gone. 
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another idea here with 18th 
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thinking through the same thing 
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You know, we're going to have 
issues finding these League 

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winners. 
By the way though, I did just 

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pull up last year's semifinals 
Advanced rates Zeta-Jones, 

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eight-point-one percent is the 
highest player. 

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Jerick McKinnon was second 
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Now I'll say later to me about 
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all players. 
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those who question the highest. 
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of finding a skill position 
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points. 
Like it is massively valuable 

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math. 
Yeah II. 

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Don't get it. 
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That it's a massive, the part 
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on spent specifically on May 
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Yeah, May 15th last year people 
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Maybe they were drafting 
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Jones. 
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but there's a lot of been 
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Yeah, I think we agreed that, 
like, I Think by August, we're 

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going to feel a lot better 
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picks just because we know okay 
who won the RV to can't battle 

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for the Cowboys. 
Okay, it's Ronald Jones and not 

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useful, like people are wasting 
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receivers right now that are 
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by, you know, August 100% like, 
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the thing with ourselves enough.
To remember Jalen Tolbert, being

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like an 11th round pick on 
underdog.com. 

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Well yeah, so the other thing I 
want to flow is like, what about

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a third tight end? 
Yeah, you know, do I this is 

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this is my preferred way to 
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tight ends to a third 
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Because in a perfect world where
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them, they're available to put 
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Elite tight ends have bad weeks,
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Even Mark Andrews a lot of 
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Andrews gonna have four point 
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George cables can have Or Point 
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Kyle Pits might not top four 
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like there are going to be a lot
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there are going to be some weeks
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You know what I mean? 
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reaches a point where like the 
tight ends just from a base 

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projection, I think project way 
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looking at, I don't know. 
Hunter Henry verse fuckin like 

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Charlie Jones and Russell gauge 
like you're looking at Luke 

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Musgrave versus Allen Robinson, 
Jelani Woods first, Richie, 

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James and Cedric, tell him, I 
don't know. 

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And even when I kind of like but
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Is a good 18th round pick? 
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Either like I think it just 
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water seeped. 
Like Titans are actually a 

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little cheaper this year, at 
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getting pushed up. 
Up. 

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So I think like I don't know, 
you're drafting slot, only wide 

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receivers were starting tight 
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Gerald Everett. 
First Lawndale Robinson like I 

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don't know. 
Joe never wanted a Mondale easy 

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baby know that that he's got 
that dog, get him. 

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Sam the Giants third slot 
receiver or sorted and for just 

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in her room. 
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interesting. 
Tyler, Conklin is a starting 

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tight ends he's gonna be P of 
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Train McBride is a starter for 
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Only starting for as long as he 
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with Aaron Rodgers. 
The second, the second he gets 

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bored of that shit. 
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they're going to break isn't 
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Is that a bit? 
I that was that was put out as a

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bit so much over the last season
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true or not. 
Tyler Coughlin has a very long 

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beard in a man bun. 
I think he's gonna get along. 

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Just fine with Aaron Rodgers. 
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marcedes, Lewis is a free agent.
I would bet at even money. 

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He is on the Jets roster at some
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I'm gonna go deep through US UJ.
C Jo Selma's. 

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Likes on Twitter and see what 
he's 38. 

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He's marcedes. 
Lewis has 38 years old. 

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She's the same age as Rogers. 
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Alright anyways let's let's 
let's let's get this show on 

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track a little bit. 
Should have done this up top but

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we're going to be doing 80 be 
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of the offseason know. 
The schedule has been kind of 

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all up in there, the past couple
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try to lock in this time. 
Mondays at noon Eastern Time 

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throughout the whole offseason 
will be joining you guys. 

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And yeah, let's kick off with 
what we normally do going 

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through adp's. 
I took a look at week, 17 

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matchups to see how essentially 
our I kind of want to answer the

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question are week 17, matchups, 
driving ATP movement. 

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And what this chart is showing 
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players from each. 
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Cincinnati which shows up as the
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took the top top five players by
ATP for Kansas City, the top, 

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five for Cincinnati. 
Average there a DPS and that's 

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what's shown on this chart here 
on the gray bar. 

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So you can see Kansas City, and 
Cincinnati is the most expensive

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game stack to stack up for week,
17. 

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Obviously the cheapest you see 
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Houston, New Orleans Tampa Bay, 
Etc. 

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So I thought this is kind of an 
interesting way to look at it. 

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If you're trying to optimize for
week 17, what kind of prices are

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you playing? 
Are you paying on these? 

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Different games. 
So yeah, I think it'll point out

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first is Kansas City Cincinnati.
That does seem to be the one 

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that is getting steamed up. 
There's not huge ADP changes 

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across any of these games, but 
the biggest Riser is Kansas City

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and Cincinnati is up about one 
spot on average across the top 

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five players in each of those 
teams. 

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So that kind of makes sense to 
me. 

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There's a lot of sort of 
secondary tertiary pieces in 

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those offenses that are easy to 
grab. 

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And once you start that game 
stack, it kind of makes sense 

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that drafters are just scooping 
them up. 

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The other thing about that one 
is if you have like jail and 

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hurts, you know, you know like 
well shit maybe I'll take, you 

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know, Rishi rice herb Smith, you
know, and Mark is valda 

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scantling and just like, get 
that game into, like, I've done 

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that, you know. 
And it's like, okay, Wilma homes

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and Borough had big games. 
I have Jalen hurts or whatever 

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like I'm fine, I'm gonna be 
fine. 

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So I've done I've done stuff 
like that, it just it's like 

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hard you're not like alone is 
libero or Mahomes drafter when 

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you get into that range of the 
draft. 

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Like everyone's like uber sheer 
ice. 

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That could be fun and like the 
12th round or whatever. 

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Yeah, I agree. 
That's interesting. 

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What's also interesting here 
that I'll point out and so the 

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purple bar or the purple lines 
in this chart are the average 

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ATP of the expensive team and 
the red bar is the average ATP 

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of the cheap team in the game 
stack. 

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So you look at two examples 
here. 

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Movers Philadelphia. 
Everyone is obviously all in on 

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Philadelphia's offense, but 
people are sticking far away 

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from Arizona with Kyler's 
injury. 

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That's kind of an interesting 
one where I think you can get a 

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lot of Arizona's pieces. 
If you want, Tyler Kyler three 

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quarterback teams Hollywood 
Brown wide receiver, 37 train 

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McBride wider star tight, end 
27. 

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And then Kyler comes back like 
week, Kyler comes bet, ya one. 

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I think we're on those wide 
receiver. 74 Kyler comes back 

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and week nine and you have to 
Other quarterbacks, you know, 

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let's say you took Justin 
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keep your head above water. 
And all of a sudden you have 

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this supercharged Arizona team. 
It's pretty. 

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It's pretty interesting. 
Sounds interesting. 

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Yeah. 
What do you think? 

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I'll apply though. 
Is it too thin to do like a 

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quarterback with a light by week
and Kyler or you just are you 

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burning your Advanced rights too
much. 

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As I like the idea like if 
you're taking a second or, you 

448
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,200
know, if your we talked about 
the three quarterback build, you

449
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,500
do still want ceiling out at 
third quarterback in Kyler's, 

450
00:24:48,500 --> 00:24:52,000
definitely does fit that. 
Unfortunately, he has a week 14 

451
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,100
by which is which really sucks. 
You're also losing that week 

452
00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:59,700
from him as well. 
I think a lot of sleep back to 

453
00:24:59,708 --> 00:25:02,700
our conversation at the top the 
week. 18 quarterback pairs 

454
00:25:02,700 --> 00:25:05,800
really well with Kyler just in 
the sense of getting a guy who's

455
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,800
going to give you points in the 
regular season. 

456
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,700
I get Yet I get that, it's maybe
not perfect for the playoffs. 

457
00:25:11,700 --> 00:25:14,600
But if Mac Jones is going to be 
valuable for your roster, it's 

458
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,700
probably on a team like, where 
you have Kyler Murray, maybe 

459
00:25:17,700 --> 00:25:19,800
where you have a rookie 
quarterback, that's struggling. 

460
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:24,000
Early in the year, I kind of see
that I think it is tough. 

461
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,900
If you're going to quarterbacks 
with Kyler I think it's got to 

462
00:25:26,908 --> 00:25:30,300
be one of the elite guys, right?
Like it's probably got to be one

463
00:25:30,300 --> 00:25:34,500
of the top five guys. 
Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen and

464
00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:37,900
Justin Fields all have week, 13 
buys. 

465
00:25:39,500 --> 00:25:41,100
Seems doable. 
Yeah. 

466
00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:43,700
So you're at least not getting 
their bye week until Kyler's 

467
00:25:43,700 --> 00:25:45,600
back. 
If he's not back, you shouldn't 

468
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,900
have taken them in. 
You might be sunk, but then he's

469
00:25:48,900 --> 00:25:54,100
got a week 14 by. 
So that those got those two guys

470
00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:57,700
or three guys, I guess Lamar 
Allen and Fields would be like 

471
00:25:57,700 --> 00:25:59,200
the dudes. 
I'd be most interested in 

472
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,400
comparing his nose. 
Yeah. 

473
00:26:02,700 --> 00:26:04,500
The other one, I'll throw out 
and then interested with what 

474
00:26:04,500 --> 00:26:08,900
you guys think, but I think the 
Josh Allen stuff is a lot. 

475
00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:11,800
Lot more interesting when you 
don't consider his price in a 

476
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,200
vacuum, but consider a not like 
he plays in week 17 and be the 

477
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,600
number of like secondary, 
tertiary pass catchers. 

478
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,700
You can get on the bills for 
Fairly cheap Allen and Mahomes 

479
00:26:22,700 --> 00:26:25,700
for the same deal this year 
where you can take them. 

480
00:26:26,500 --> 00:26:29,800
Let's say, let's say the digs 
drafter passes on Allen or the 

481
00:26:29,808 --> 00:26:32,700
Kelsey drafter passes on Mahomes
for whatever reason and you 

482
00:26:32,700 --> 00:26:34,700
randomly get like a really good 
price on them. 

483
00:26:34,900 --> 00:26:37,800
You can be like alright well I'm
going to fill this out rounds, 

484
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,900
10 through 18. 
You don't, you could take those 

485
00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:43,100
knocks really late. 
You can take mvs, really late. 

486
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:45,200
You can take Deonte Hardy with 
your last pick. 

487
00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:46,600
Richie James with your last 
pick. 

488
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,100
Like there are a lot of 
different ways to do that. 

489
00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:52,100
I think in ways where you would 
not have felt confident about 

490
00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:54,800
that with with Josh Allen last 
year. 

491
00:26:55,300 --> 00:26:56,500
Yeah. 
Because you don't have gate, you

492
00:26:56,500 --> 00:26:57,900
know, gate Davis in the third 
round. 

493
00:26:57,900 --> 00:27:00,500
Now he's in the seventh, you 
know, even though he's eating 

494
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,800
his screams cookie or do too. 
Yeah, I think Kincaid is cheaper

495
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:09,300
than Knox was last year even. 
So it's and then Look at the 

496
00:27:09,300 --> 00:27:12,200
Patriots and you can get you 
know say what you want, about 

497
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,000
Juju maybe not like Juju but 
pick your Pat's pass. 

498
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,100
Catcher pick one of their tight 
ends I like Conner Henry I like 

499
00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:21,500
tae kwon Thornton like there's 
some interesting bring back so 

500
00:27:21,508 --> 00:27:24,700
you can get for absolutely Dirt 
Cheap on the Patriots that I 

501
00:27:24,708 --> 00:27:29,500
think project pretty well given 
their cost so I've taken Juju 

502
00:27:29,500 --> 00:27:33,600
which means he's not egregiously
priced on taking them. 

503
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,000
I think he's a total dust but 
yeah, yeah, especially like wide

504
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,100
receiver dries up. 
Up, you know and if you've taken

505
00:27:41,100 --> 00:27:44,700
an elite quarterback, that's you
didn't have a second round wide 

506
00:27:44,700 --> 00:27:48,200
receiver pick. 
So you might be a little thinner

507
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,100
at wide. 
Receiver, I've taken Juju I 

508
00:27:50,108 --> 00:27:53,700
think it's like my wide receiver
5 are as like this is gross but 

509
00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:56,200
I kind of got locked out. 
I could probably need, I 

510
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,500
probably used the points early 
on in the season and then I'm 

511
00:27:58,508 --> 00:28:00,700
going to keep you know, I'm 
going to prioritize wide 

512
00:28:00,700 --> 00:28:02,500
receiver for the rest of the 
draft a little bit more than I 

513
00:28:02,508 --> 00:28:06,000
would have. 
But yeah, I mean he could he's 

514
00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:09,900
so it's like he's probably not 
like Juju is probably not a good

515
00:28:09,900 --> 00:28:12,900
week, 17 pick because I don't 
know like how he's even gonna be

516
00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:16,000
like running in week seven. 
What week what week is you're 

517
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,500
doing good like week. 
Three week three is when I went 

518
00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:22,900
to GIF when's a week five? 
There's that's an apartment that

519
00:28:22,900 --> 00:28:27,000
I'm like week 5 come on Juju 
here's the thing II. 

520
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,300
Don't have any wide receivers in
that range other than one guy I 

521
00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:33,300
have 43 percent Elijah more at 
this point. 

522
00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:36,300
Can't I just got to know Elijah 
more, man. 

523
00:28:36,300 --> 00:28:38,300
How do I click anyone else's 
name? 

524
00:28:39,700 --> 00:28:43,700
I mean, I'm gonna lie like all 
the other names what's on his 

525
00:28:43,700 --> 00:28:46,500
shirt and he was bad last year, 
what's that? 

526
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,500
I don't care. 
I literally do not care. 

527
00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:52,100
I really don't. 
So the more stuff is interesting

528
00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:55,500
because if you look at his like 
targets per outrun stuff last 

529
00:28:55,500 --> 00:28:58,600
year, it was like bottom five of
all wide receivers that ran 

530
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,800
above like 200 routes. 
Like it was Gabe, Davis 

531
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,700
territory, I think like worse 
than gave Davis territory but 

532
00:29:03,700 --> 00:29:07,000
then you will get his charting 
stuff like not harm and 

533
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,100
perception. 
Perception didn't see a huge 

534
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:13,500
fall Off in Moore's, actual like
route running success rates last

535
00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:15,700
year and also he was amazing as 
a rookie. 

536
00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:18,600
So I'm gonna kind of fits with 
the narrative that yeah, Jack 

537
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,700
Wilson just hated each other. 
I'm willing to give him a 

538
00:29:20,708 --> 00:29:24,100
little, the benefit of Doubt on 
some of his stats last year but 

539
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:25,600
it's still. 
I think you do have to admit. 

540
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,900
It's on it's on certain on his 
talent. 

541
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,600
I do like I think I'm probably I
don't think it's uncertain on 

542
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,700
his talent. 
Is why weren't you more 56 and 

543
00:29:33,700 --> 00:29:36,100
open Score? 
Why don't you were 56? 

544
00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:39,200
It's not, it's not like he 
wasn't her. 

545
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,800
Horrific. 
He's actually between Mike Evans

546
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,000
and Cooper cup so you know he 
was he's probably fine but he is

547
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,300
like a smaller guy. 
So like the ability to get open 

548
00:29:49,300 --> 00:29:54,700
is probably I just don't like 
for him to be for him to turn 

549
00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:57,700
into like a rotational bench 
wide receiver for the Cleveland 

550
00:29:57,700 --> 00:30:01,300
Browns at 23 years old, his 
rookie year would have to be 

551
00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:04,200
like an all-time Mirage which is
not to say that it's not. 

552
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,000
It does happen, right? 
I mean, Juju was so good. 

553
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,700
Those first two years look how 
we were just talking about Him 

554
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,700
the Buccaneers guy Michael 
Clayton, right thousand yards, 

555
00:30:14,100 --> 00:30:16,700
10 touchdowns rookie never heard
from him again. 

556
00:30:16,700 --> 00:30:20,200
It's not to say that it doesn't 
happen but it seemed especially 

557
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,300
because other teams were 
interested in him, right? 

558
00:30:23,300 --> 00:30:26,700
This is not like Denzel Mims 
where he hung around as a depth 

559
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:28,400
guy forever. 
Even though the Jets tried to 

560
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,900
trade him, like they found a 
trade partner for him, that that

561
00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:34,700
to me is also kind of 
interesting, but to wash out of 

562
00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:38,600
the team that spent a second 
round pick on you in two years. 

563
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:40,900
Is a major red flag. 
Me. 

564
00:30:40,900 --> 00:30:44,100
Anthony Miller comes to mind. 
Is it due to just like washed 

565
00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:45,500
out? 
God damn it. 

566
00:30:45,500 --> 00:30:46,800
This is the game. 
We've been playing. 

567
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,000
We just been sending each other 
like awful comps for players 

568
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,500
like just like guys who exist 
like what was what was the last 

569
00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:57,000
one we did Jalen Tolbert like 
jail and told us like it. 

570
00:30:57,500 --> 00:31:01,300
So like jail Tolbert. 
Just had the two most recent 

571
00:31:01,300 --> 00:31:05,700
things when you, when you search
for him, are worked out with 

572
00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:13,000
that in like Cuba or whatever or
Costa Rica and and that he's on 

573
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,300
the roster bubble and that's the
last message for rain sent me 

574
00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:19,500
is, I ask them. 
Is Danny gray alive. 

575
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,900
And Pat just said he's Thailand 
Wallace West which is just like 

576
00:31:23,500 --> 00:31:25,900
damning him to hell like any 
great doesn't exist. 

577
00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:30,100
So Danny gray I had some 18th 
round Danny gray. 

578
00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:32,400
Last year, I think I got a tweet
that it was it was the most 

579
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,100
theoretical of all best ball 
picks and I've ever been in my 

580
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:37,800
life 18th round Danny gray. 
I mean it was pretty good. 

581
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,900
Theoretically have you get 
those? 

582
00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:40,700
Had to get those Trail and 
stacks. 

583
00:31:40,700 --> 00:31:46,900
Dude, I did that a bunch. 
Any other lady just guys that 

584
00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:49,800
are that are jumping out here 
and he did you want a final 

585
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:50,800
world on? 
All right. 

586
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:56,300
Yeah, I want to swim out Elijah 
more like he I do think that the

587
00:31:56,300 --> 00:31:58,600
reason that I'm having trouble 
mustering like more excitement 

588
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,100
is that I do think he's slot 
only there because they drafted 

589
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:06,600
Cedric Tillman, who's like 
big-bodied X-Type and they also 

590
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,900
have down on people's Jones 
who's a big Body deep dry cut, 

591
00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:12,600
isn't isn't Cedric Tillman just 
the pic so that they don't have 

592
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,500
to pay dpj though isn't. 
That is maybe maybe but a more 

593
00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:18,800
Cooper I also went outside wide 
receiver as well. 

594
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:23,500
So there's like the fact that it
was just tpj or just Tillman, 

595
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:26,200
I'd be like well if more is good
he'll be able to play into wide 

596
00:32:26,208 --> 00:32:30,600
receiver sets but there's both 
of them and Amari I'm just like,

597
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,600
I don't know that he's playing 
it too wide receiver sets and 

598
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,300
now I'm looking at maybe like 
75% route rate on top of all 

599
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:39,600
the, the talent questions which 
I think are Up in the air like 

600
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,100
he could still be buried beneath
75% route radiant Canary Estonia

601
00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:56,700
bite your arm off for 
the bills become knowing that 

602
00:32:56,700 --> 00:32:59,000
they're playing that this is 
their week 17 game. 

603
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,200
Like it's just it's as bad as it
could have been. 

604
00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:04,200
I think like this is a going to 
be a bad football game. 

605
00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:07,900
I don't know, man. 
They can, they could beat up on 

606
00:33:07,900 --> 00:33:10,000
the Patriots, they've done. 
What's the, what's the, What's 

607
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,300
the total for that game? 
Going to be though, outdoor 

608
00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:17,300
Outdoors, January game, between 
the Patriots and the bills. 

609
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,100
It's ugly. 
I just think the cost of the 

610
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,800
learner's. 
So, so 37. 

611
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,000
It's gonna be close at 4700. 
They said that my gut, my gut 

612
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,600
was, if it's outdoors, if the 
weather, if it's if it's 17 

613
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,700
degrees in the northeastern 
United States, it's going to be 

614
00:33:36,700 --> 00:33:41,700
like a 44 and a half total. 
We'll see how many what weather 

615
00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:44,900
will play a role whether want to
play a role. 

616
00:33:45,300 --> 00:33:49,000
I'll want to throw out there. 
Is I look at these, my favorite 

617
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,000
game is Giants, Rams actually 
think both these teams as a 

618
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,700
whole in a vacuum or underpriced
and best ball. 

619
00:33:56,300 --> 00:33:57,900
Daniel Jones, I think is 
underpriced. 

620
00:33:57,900 --> 00:33:59,600
He ran for seven hundred yards 
last year. 

621
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,100
Got a huge, you know, say what 
you want about as wide receivers

622
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:04,500
are not amazing but it's a huge 
upgrade from what he was dealing

623
00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:08,300
with last year. 
Adding Hyatt, adding Waller wall

624
00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:09,600
or notes. 
Yeah. 

625
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,100
I mean Who knows what that I 
think like last year was. 

626
00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:16,500
It can't literally can't get 
worse last year and he still was

627
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:18,600
a great pick and fantasy. 
You know, he's been pretty 

628
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,400
cheap. 
Anyways, I like that game. 

629
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,300
I like that shit out potential 
there with the table, Giants, 

630
00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:28,699
and Matthew Stafford, somewhat 
bouncing back to 2021 form. 

631
00:34:28,699 --> 00:34:32,300
And it's, you know, the third 
third cheapest out of all games 

632
00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:35,199
X2, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, 
Tennessee, Houston. 

633
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:37,600
Like I could see that actually 
having a pretty high. 

634
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:42,500
You know, we flip over the Cards
on week 17 and I think that game

635
00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:46,100
could have a sneaky High over 
under if those teams play to 

636
00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:48,800
their ceiling. 
So I like that one quite a bit. 

637
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,699
Any other games you guys want to
talk about here or we'll be 

638
00:34:53,699 --> 00:34:55,800
tracking this throughout the 
season. 

639
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,800
I'll throw one more I do like 
the the call on the Rams in the 

640
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,000
John's a lot. 
I will throw out Washington and 

641
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,600
San Francisco as a team where 
it's like, just don't guess the 

642
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,000
quarterbacks just take take the 
pieces trance-like state. 

643
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,100
Take jail and hurts and then 
stack the rest of the game? 

644
00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:15,700
Yeah. 
Like this game could have points

645
00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:21,100
especially if San Francisco is 
just beating up on Washington 

646
00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:26,200
and then Washington has to throw
see, see you know save face and 

647
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,200
maybe they have be enemies the 
coach at that point and they're 

648
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,900
willing to just lean on the 
past. 

649
00:35:31,300 --> 00:35:35,200
Yeah, I like that one a lot and 
I think both those to any any 

650
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,100
team that has an uncertain 
quarterback situation, the 

651
00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:41,500
player atp's are just repressed 
because of that, we saw that 

652
00:35:41,500 --> 00:35:44,400
with Carolina Indianapolis 
Houston. 

653
00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:47,500
Those those teams are still 
cheap now, but you know, Nico 

654
00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:50,900
Collins just by knowing who is 
quarterback is now has shot way 

655
00:35:50,900 --> 00:35:52,300
up. 
Alec Pierce, just Minos 

656
00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:55,400
quarterback is has shot way up. 
So any team that is uncertain. 

657
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,200
Few be people are afraid to take
them. 

658
00:35:57,300 --> 00:35:58,800
I think the prices on Washington
in San. 

659
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,700
Francisco will remain. 
A cheap because of that for a 

660
00:36:01,707 --> 00:36:04,100
while. 
So that's that's an interesting 

661
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:05,700
one. 
The game stack without the 

662
00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:09,000
quarterback for sure. 
Yeah, I agree. 

663
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,300
Let's talk. 
Let's move onto the biggest 

664
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:18,100
risers from this past week, so 
we're looking at the largest ATP

665
00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:20,900
risers from May 10th to today, 
May 15th. 

666
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,800
We have on the list, Alexander 
Madison as the biggest, Riser up

667
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:31,500
12 spots, then Christian Watson 
Irv Smith van Jefferson Darius. 

668
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:36,300
Tony Jaden read Jerick McKinnon,
Brashear Ice, Mike Evans, and 

669
00:36:36,300 --> 00:36:39,200
Rashad Bateman. 
I think the first thing that 

670
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,300
clearly jumps out here is we 
have three Chiefs and one 

671
00:36:43,300 --> 00:36:45,700
Bengals player. 
So back to that previous chart, 

672
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,000
people are targeting that game. 
I want to start with the 

673
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,900
curious. 
Tony conversation. 

674
00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:55,900
He's maybe the guys that the 
most Buzz over the past week or 

675
00:36:55,900 --> 00:36:59,000
so, on fantasy Twitter. 
So, I want to just lay out the 

676
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,400
case for Tony I made this quick 
visual here. 

677
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,500
I think the central case with 
Tony is you look at the left 

678
00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:10,500
hand side of this page here 
Tony's /. 

679
00:37:10,500 --> 00:37:15,000
Route numbers are just off the 
charts yard for outrun 2.15 

680
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,100
2.14. 
He's top 15 in yards per hour, 

681
00:37:18,100 --> 00:37:21,300
on each of the past two years 
and five routes in the sky. 

682
00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:25,300
There's like five wraps up this 
super exactly. 

683
00:37:25,300 --> 00:37:30,600
It's five routes in the Super 
Bowl, but he was one arm tackle 

684
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,200
away from winning Super Bowl 
MVP. 

685
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,100
If he scored that punt return 
dead-ass, he would have. 

686
00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:37,600
Yeah. 
And it's his routes like so I 

687
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,800
think the people like don't 
quite realize his routes scaled 

688
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,000
out, like, he kind of actually 
hit a peak, like towards the end

689
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,800
of the regular season peak being
like 30%, route rate and then if

690
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,700
no no it was, it was more than 
that. 

691
00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:51,100
So I actually I've got a little 
bit of insight. 

692
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:52,600
I think I know. 
Why they did this? 

693
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,000
I think I think I think I sort 
of understand the Chiefs thought

694
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,400
process here because I think 
from the outside people are like

695
00:37:59,700 --> 00:38:01,700
the Chiefs are getting nothing 
from these guys. 

696
00:38:01,700 --> 00:38:03,100
They're getting nothing from 
Justin W. 

697
00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:04,500
They're getting nothing from 
Sky. 

698
00:38:04,500 --> 00:38:07,000
How is it possible? 
They trade this third round pick

699
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,000
and I think basically they 
looked at canaries Tony and they

700
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,100
were like dude you are a mess. 
You are always hurt. 

701
00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:14,800
Your always arguing with your 
coaches. 

702
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,100
You are first-round, pick, they 
gave up on you immediately. 

703
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:18,800
They traded you to us for a 
late. 

704
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,100
Third round pick, my guess is 
the The thought went something 

705
00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:26,000
like this. 
Let's get him into an offseason 

706
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,100
and our strength, and 
conditioning protocol. 

707
00:38:28,500 --> 00:38:32,300
Let's have because the chiefs 
with Chiefs, have a really good 

708
00:38:32,300 --> 00:38:34,100
strength and conditioning team. 
They've worked through like 

709
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:36,200
they, and they do this with 
McKinnon, right? 

710
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,900
They keep McKinnon on Ice until 
it's time to use them. 

711
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:43,500
And I think they're just like 
anything we get out of Tony. 

712
00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:45,200
This year is a bonus at this 
point. 

713
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,400
I think, after he got hurt in 
that Jaguars game, they're like,

714
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,500
we cannot count on this guy. 
We can't game plan around and we

715
00:38:50,500 --> 00:38:52,600
can't function like Going to be 
here. 

716
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,400
So let's just get to the 
offseason and deal with it. 

717
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,100
Then that that is my 
rose-colored. 

718
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:02,300
Glasses view on why they chose 
to use and that way could I 

719
00:39:02,300 --> 00:39:05,900
could be totally fanfiction. 
But that is that is my guess. 

720
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,000
I think it's plausible. 
I think that the fact that he 

721
00:39:09,008 --> 00:39:11,900
ran five routes in the Super 
Bowl, undermines the argument a 

722
00:39:11,900 --> 00:39:12,800
bit. 
I agree. 

723
00:39:12,900 --> 00:39:14,900
I agree. 
Also three routes in the AFC 

724
00:39:14,900 --> 00:39:18,300
Championship Game. 
Does not help the cause it 

725
00:39:18,300 --> 00:39:21,300
really doesn't. 
I think that, but you Targets on

726
00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:23,800
three Routes provide more 
Targets in sky in that game. 

727
00:39:24,500 --> 00:39:26,700
Yeah, I think with the Chiefs 
maybe you're doing is they're 

728
00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:30,300
like we're going like sub 
package, like we're going to 

729
00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:32,900
have guys like maybe, maybe. 
None of these guys is going to 

730
00:39:32,900 --> 00:39:37,300
do anything for us like over the
course of an entire season or, 

731
00:39:37,300 --> 00:39:39,600
of course of entire game. 
We're not going to be like, but 

732
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,600
they're, they're going to like 
do we're going to have plays for

733
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,300
all these guys like so that when
they're what they did, after 

734
00:39:46,300 --> 00:39:48,900
Heartland got hurt, it was like,
they'd have that they'd have the

735
00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:51,200
Marcus Kemp stuff. 
They'd have the Jody Fortson 

736
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,300
stuff. 
They would beat they'd be like 

737
00:39:53,300 --> 00:39:57,000
they the Chiefs would routinely 
be playing nine tight ends and 

738
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,700
wide receivers in the game. 
Which like most most people cap 

739
00:39:59,700 --> 00:40:02,000
out at like seven. 
Like, it was exactly. 

740
00:40:02,300 --> 00:40:04,400
Yeah. 
And this is, Andy Reid's deal, 

741
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,900
right? 
This is like, this is all he 

742
00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:08,500
wants to do is come up. 
Like, oh, Andy like, I'm sorry. 

743
00:40:08,500 --> 00:40:10,900
You have to stay at another two 
hours tonight and come up with 

744
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:18,200
ways for Rishi rice now. 
He's like guys, we can keep 

745
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,600
doing it, so I would be 
surprised. 

746
00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:23,800
Personally, if we saw carries 
Tony. 

747
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,900
Like if he was if he ran like 85
to 90% of the routes this year, 

748
00:40:28,900 --> 00:40:31,300
I'd kind of be shocked. 
Like I'd be true. 

749
00:40:31,300 --> 00:40:35,600
It probably has the worst 
downside case of any player 

750
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,200
outside of injury going in the 
top 100 picks right where he 

751
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,900
just straight up is healthy all 
season and just does not get 

752
00:40:42,900 --> 00:40:46,200
used. 
Yeah, I mean, 50 to 60 percent 

753
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:52,000
would be like a big boost and 
still kind of a disaster at this

754
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,800
rate. 
I mean, that's co-pending 

755
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,500
depending on touch Variance, 
right? 

756
00:40:55,500 --> 00:40:58,400
Like he could totally get there 
with touchdown variants but it 

757
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,300
but that's like very slim 
Antonio Brown in that year with 

758
00:41:02,300 --> 00:41:05,000
Brady. 
I think he had about a 70% route

759
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,700
rate so if Tony was in that type
of role, then I'm going to look 

760
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:12,300
real silly, because he'll Crush 
in that type of role. 

761
00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:16,700
But I do think like that's what 
you're like, praying that he's 

762
00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:21,500
kind of Antonio Brown level 
usage in like his last Good Year

763
00:41:21,500 --> 00:41:24,000
with the yeah. 
Easy easy game, right? 

764
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,500
And the thing is, I I mean, we 
do the the big thing is that, 

765
00:41:28,700 --> 00:41:30,900
you know, say what you want, 
about Juju maybe he's dust. 

766
00:41:30,900 --> 00:41:34,400
He was, he had a pretty big 
Stranglehold over the slot role 

767
00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:36,500
last year, right? 
I don't have the route numbers. 

768
00:41:36,700 --> 00:41:39,500
He's gone. 
Like it's I think it's going to 

769
00:41:39,500 --> 00:41:41,800
be him or sky going into the 
slot, right? 

770
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,500
Like I guess maybe Richie James 
is an outside chance of winning 

771
00:41:44,500 --> 00:41:47,600
that job, but like I think it's 
kind of a two-man competition 

772
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,300
and well, I'm leaving my money. 
I I don't think it's guy. 

773
00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:54,700
I think I think multiple guys 
are playing in the slot. 

774
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,200
Yeah. 
Yeah, I think, I think likely 

775
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,700
outcome. 
I think Pat's right. 

776
00:41:57,700 --> 00:42:02,100
I think it's like Tony Sky. 
Richie James freakin Cornell. 

777
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:05,200
Powell back from the dead, like,
literally or sheer ice will play

778
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,300
some in the slot to our imagine.
Yeah. 

779
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,700
Yeah. 
That's something they've led the

780
00:42:09,700 --> 00:42:11,400
league in 12 Personnel last 
year. 

781
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,400
That's that's not doing that 
thing though. 

782
00:42:13,500 --> 00:42:16,200
Is that Noah gray is going to 
play 60 percent of their snaps 

783
00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:21,100
That's what he's home. 
He's been a tough click. 

784
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,500
Yeah. 
It's like, I better have my 

785
00:42:23,500 --> 00:42:25,500
home's. 
I really better have my homes 

786
00:42:26,300 --> 00:42:29,700
because I'm like, I don't know. 
I mean this, this is like we 

787
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,300
like I've often been like, I was
like, screw it. 

788
00:42:32,300 --> 00:42:34,500
I'm just drafting the guy I 
think super talented and Tony 

789
00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:38,000
fits that bill. 
But like how does he, how does 

790
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,800
he play? 
Mikey, it's a lot to pay for a 

791
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,300
guy with like, are we sure he's 
playing like, he, he had he 

792
00:42:44,300 --> 00:42:46,900
combined 48 routes in the last 
two games we saw. 

793
00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:50,200
That's a major problem. 
I'm just, I'm just living. 

794
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,700
I'm just living a little. 
I'm just living a little, you 

795
00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:56,900
know, I don't care. 
I don't care because the the the

796
00:42:57,100 --> 00:43:01,100
theoretical upside the 
rose-colored glasses and plays, 

797
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:05,400
he plays you know of huge 
majority of the passing Downs. 

798
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:10,600
Is you have a guy who can easily
score, 280 half, PPR points or 

799
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,400
whatever, who runs more routes 
could areas Tony or Jameson 

800
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,000
Williams. 
Tony collectively on the season.

801
00:43:17,300 --> 00:43:21,500
I'm I'm I'm Tony, I'm feeling, 
I'm feeling bearish, I'm feeling

802
00:43:21,500 --> 00:43:23,800
bearish on Jameson Williams. 
I'm feeling pretty pretty 

803
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,000
bearish. 
It's probably tell me, but it's 

804
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:31,200
probably Tony, but it's still 
close like these routers use 

805
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,800
round. 
Numbers are so bad and I was 

806
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,100
thinking I'm up. 
I was like this is worse than I 

807
00:43:35,107 --> 00:43:37,100
remembered. 
No, man. 

808
00:43:37,100 --> 00:43:38,400
Like that. 
Five route. 

809
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,800
The five routes in the Super 
Bowl is the targets program. 

810
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,700
Yeah. 
And it's like the targets for 

811
00:43:42,700 --> 00:43:43,800
about Ron stuff. 
Yeah sure. 

812
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,000
He got sixth. 
Get some 12 routes like good 

813
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,600
job, I guess. 
But it's 12 routes, like, I 

814
00:43:49,607 --> 00:43:52,500
don't know. 
That is the thing to like, when 

815
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,000
targets per out, Ron is. 
I love it. 

816
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,700
It's a great stat, but like if 
you get a screen route, if you 

817
00:43:58,700 --> 00:44:02,300
get like a one exacttarget 
that's designed to go to you, 

818
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,400
it's going to spike your targets
per hour on a small sample. 

819
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,600
So and Tony is that guy like he 
is the dude you bring on to get 

820
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,400
him the ball. 
He probably didn't know. 

821
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,800
Yeah, he didn't know the whole 
Playbook, so they're like, hey, 

822
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,800
we have like displays for you. 
When you're out there, you're 

823
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,200
the, you know, primary target on
half the plays that you're out 

824
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,400
there. 
So like, it's so biased by that 

825
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,300
that I think, I think he's a 
good talent but like people 

826
00:44:25,300 --> 00:44:27,100
citing these yard for out on 
targets per hour on. 

827
00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:29,600
Like, they're not gonna scale. 
They're not good. 

828
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,300
They're not going to skill. 
Yeah they might scale like 

829
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,700
someone but that sounds like 
most things were. 

830
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:40,200
Yeah, he'll still still drop a 
lot but yeah but yeah we got a 

831
00:44:40,207 --> 00:44:42,600
comment that he's so unique is 
he can bury you in both 

832
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,700
directions which is like giant 
do not want One Tony, Tony could

833
00:44:46,700 --> 00:44:50,600
bury me if I'm, but I do plan to
be underweight on Tony. 

834
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,100
I just don't want to be like. 
I'd like to be like 5% Tony. 

835
00:44:54,700 --> 00:44:56,300
That's that's like that. 
Yeah. 

836
00:44:56,900 --> 00:45:01,800
And to be fair, The Wider side, 
like you only have 5% moans No, 

837
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,300
I just am not going to like 
reach for Tony because Mahomes 

838
00:45:04,300 --> 00:45:06,600
is so easy to stack. 
I want to be overweight. 

839
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,800
I think I've gotten to the point
where I think I do actually be 

840
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,300
overweight. 
These top three quarterbacks. 

841
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,200
I think I'm okay. 
I can already stare into a 

842
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,800
crystal ball and see my future 
of why I don't win a million 

843
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,600
dollars. 
Because I do Kelsey Mahomes 

844
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:25,000
about twice as frequent as I do 
digs and Alan and it's week 17 

845
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,700
and it's not snowing in New 
England and Stefon Diggs has 29 

846
00:45:28,700 --> 00:45:31,900
and half CPR point. 
It's Josh Allen runs for two 

847
00:45:31,900 --> 00:45:34,300
touchdowns and Kelsey and 
Mahomes already have the 

848
00:45:34,308 --> 00:45:36,000
division wrapped up. 
So they just spend the whole 

849
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,000
game. 
Handing off to Isaiah Pacheco 

850
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,100
and ring screens for Jody 
Fortson. 

851
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:45,700
And I just, I have nothing left.
Yeah I do I think. 

852
00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:49,700
Yeah you want to be mixing up 
but like in the big board I was 

853
00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:52,400
way under weight the top three 
guys but that's Anthony 

854
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,500
Richardson was free to begin 
that and then he when he likes 

855
00:45:55,600 --> 00:46:00,200
spiked up he was still going 
like the 12th round and Lamar 

856
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,000
Jackson was going like the 
fourth fifth, so there was 

857
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,700
multiple ways to get, you know, 
really strong quarterback 

858
00:46:06,700 --> 00:46:11,200
production potentially for a way
cheaper and I don't like Mars 

859
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:12,800
like an early third round pick 
now. 

860
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,500
There's just not obviously 
Richardson super expensive 

861
00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:21,100
compared to where it was. 
So I'm like, am I just going to 

862
00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:22,400
be out on these Elite 
quarterbacks? 

863
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,400
We've had incredible Advance 
rates recently and I know the 

864
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,600
cost is a lot higher, but I 
don't know. 

865
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,200
I I think I want to be 
overweight slightly at least. 

866
00:46:31,500 --> 00:46:33,500
That is one of my most 
interesting things. 

867
00:46:33,500 --> 00:46:35,500
Like if I could stare into a 
crystal ball is like, what is 

868
00:46:35,500 --> 00:46:38,400
the increased cost of the 
expensive, quarterbacks due to 

869
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,800
their Advanced rates? 
Because this time last year you 

870
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,500
could take Mom's in the fifth 
fucking round. 

871
00:46:42,500 --> 00:46:45,000
Like I don't Get these guys in 
the fifth threat looks like, my 

872
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,500
cabins are Patrick Mahomes. 
Like, literally, I do not have 

873
00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:50,000
to think. 
I, I don't have to process that 

874
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,700
at all. 
I know exactly what my Evans was

875
00:46:51,700 --> 00:46:55,100
a second-round pick, but I think
you're saying, yeah, this year 

876
00:46:55,100 --> 00:46:55,700
is a bit. 
Yeah. 

877
00:46:55,700 --> 00:46:56,700
I don't even know. 
Yeah. 

878
00:46:56,700 --> 00:47:00,500
So like so if you look, yeah, if
you look at the math of like and

879
00:47:00,500 --> 00:47:02,400
there's different versions of 
this but Hayden doesn't get one 

880
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,300
with like better and best of all
points. 

881
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,800
I think. 
If you look at that and say the 

882
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,600
quarterbacks this year separate 
in the same way that they did 

883
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,100
last year, I think they're 
fairly priced or maybe even 

884
00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:14,700
likes very slightly. 
Underpriced where they are now. 

885
00:47:14,900 --> 00:47:18,300
But I think you do have to 
consider that like last year's 

886
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,700
sort of middle class of 
quarterbacks, were way worse 

887
00:47:21,700 --> 00:47:24,200
than they've been in Prior years
from a points per game 

888
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,500
standpoint. 
Like, I looked at something 

889
00:47:26,500 --> 00:47:29,500
where, you know, Gino was the 
quarterback nine last year at 

890
00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:32,600
like 18 points per game. 
You look at the last five years,

891
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,900
every other quarterback 9 was 
like up at 20, so it's just, 

892
00:47:35,900 --> 00:47:38,700
it's a small difference, right? 
It doesn't stand up to us as 

893
00:47:38,700 --> 00:47:42,000
massive, but if some other 
quarterbacks just play a little 

894
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,700
bit better than Mahomes hurts 
and Alan don't even have to play

895
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,300
worse for them to be less 
valuable if that makes sense. 

896
00:47:49,300 --> 00:47:52,900
So, I don't know. 
I pad I'm kind of like coming 

897
00:47:52,900 --> 00:47:55,000
around sun a little bit. 
I don't think I want to be 

898
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,400
overweight them but like I am 
definitely not hard. 

899
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,600
Fading them in the way I was in 
early. 

900
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,900
Drafts this. 
You know, especially if their 

901
00:48:03,900 --> 00:48:06,600
prices stick and I think they 
are pretty sticky. 

902
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:11,100
At this point, I've have seen 
them in the puppy, fall a little

903
00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:15,500
bit too, like the early, third. 
So that's making me wonder if 

904
00:48:15,500 --> 00:48:17,400
maybe they'll fall a little bit 
but I don't know. 

905
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,500
I mean, I guess I'm not super 
upset. 

906
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:24,300
If my early best Ball Mania, 
drafts are a little bit weighted

907
00:48:24,300 --> 00:48:27,700
toward Elite quarterback and 
then if they fall like then it 

908
00:48:27,700 --> 00:48:30,300
becomes way easier. 
Then I'm overweight Elite 

909
00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:32,300
quarterback in my portfolio like
great. 

910
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,900
It's been it's been quite good 
recently. 

911
00:48:34,900 --> 00:48:38,000
So yeah I don't think it's like 
a terrible like and like we said

912
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:43,100
there's their floor is like mid 
thurso like you maybe maybe. 

913
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,700
Worse case scenario, you're 
losing a little ADP value, but I

914
00:48:45,707 --> 00:48:48,300
kind of like doubt they drop 
that far. 

915
00:48:48,300 --> 00:48:51,700
So, yeah, I'm okay to like, kind
of catch the value there. 

916
00:48:52,100 --> 00:48:56,200
So let's, let's talk Madison. 
He shows up at the top Riser 

917
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,100
here, this one's a little weird 
to me because there hasn't been 

918
00:48:59,100 --> 00:49:01,800
any hard news on cook, but 
there's been some like rumors 

919
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,500
about cook being a post June 1st
cop. 

920
00:49:04,700 --> 00:49:07,500
It's just a continuation of the 
rumors and how gross the range 

921
00:49:07,500 --> 00:49:09,300
is. 
It's not any specific thing. 

922
00:49:09,300 --> 00:49:12,200
It's like I fell victim of this 
where I'm like, I told you want 

923
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,900
a Williams of the Um ACL Zach 
charbonnet. 

924
00:49:16,100 --> 00:49:19,500
You know, it just like Madison 
is like, yeah, he could be a 

925
00:49:19,508 --> 00:49:22,400
starting running back or you 
have like a nut handcuffed like 

926
00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:25,900
Madison every year for the last 
five years has had, at least, 

927
00:49:25,900 --> 00:49:30,600
like, three games of 25 or more 
PPR points just because Coco 

928
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:31,800
miss a couple games. 
You know? 

929
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,000
It's so it's it's like, it's 
like it's kind of like clicking 

930
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,800
Pollard there. 
You know, that that's sort of 

931
00:49:35,808 --> 00:49:38,300
what it feels like or what 
Pollard used to be. 

932
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,500
Yeah, well you also medicine at 
this price. 

933
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,100
I've actually had a hard time in
like, Pat Foreman's been 

934
00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:48,200
tweeting about Madison like, for
like months ago, it feels like 

935
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,100
like just like, guys, what are 
we doing? 

936
00:49:50,300 --> 00:49:52,200
This dude's probably starting 
running back. 

937
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,900
Like let's draft them and he's 
been right? 

938
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,200
But I just I've had a hard time 
with Madison just because I 

939
00:49:58,207 --> 00:50:00,500
don't think Madison's like that 
good. 

940
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,200
I don't think he's bad but he's 
kind of like a guy who like like

941
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,500
are they seriously? 
I mean maybe the money says yes 

942
00:50:06,500 --> 00:50:08,900
that they are just like we're 
going to caught cold franchise 

943
00:50:08,900 --> 00:50:10,800
tagged in Him? 
Didn't? 

944
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,400
I thought they gave him a deal? 
No. 

945
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,900
They franchise tag him, right? 
That is Madison. 

946
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,700
I think they gave him a deal. 
No, but it's good. 

947
00:50:17,700 --> 00:50:19,900
It's like they paid him. 
He got the fourth. 

948
00:50:19,900 --> 00:50:23,000
Most guarantee Ronnie of of any 
running back. 

949
00:50:23,500 --> 00:50:27,100
Yeah, so just behind a deal. 
Yeah, just pain Jamal Williams 

950
00:50:27,100 --> 00:50:29,400
Montgomery. 
Mi sanderso Madison, got money. 

951
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,900
That was the case Edmund were 
you got? 

952
00:50:32,900 --> 00:50:35,900
Yeah, that's fair but he got 
more than like the most stirred 

953
00:50:35,900 --> 00:50:39,100
Singletary. 
Wilson McKinnon like right? 

954
00:50:39,500 --> 00:50:41,100
You look at his contract, like 
Minnesota. 

955
00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:44,300
Clearly does value him with this
type of guaranteed money, right?

956
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,400
Whether that translates to him 
being and they never and I mean,

957
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,700
never give the ball to their 
third running back, right? 

958
00:50:50,700 --> 00:50:53,200
Does not matter who it is. 
They did one year when Mike 

959
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,800
Boone, was there? 
Like one game, like bun got in, 

960
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,300
but can a, and Wang you Duane 
McBride. 

961
00:50:58,300 --> 00:51:01,600
Like these guys are like, if 
Dalvin cook is not out there, 

962
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,600
Madison is getting 19 carries 
for caches and every goal line 

963
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,500
carry. 
Yeah, probably. 

964
00:51:08,700 --> 00:51:11,000
It's just It is. 
It's tough because we only have 

965
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,200
one year with this coaching 
staff. 

966
00:51:13,700 --> 00:51:16,000
Yeah. 
So it's tough to say, like he'll

967
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,700
get used but he was used last 
year, like, in the institutional

968
00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:21,400
memory. 
I don't know if it works like 

969
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,800
that, whatever Mike kind of does
to me. 

970
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,600
It kind of does to me, like, I 
kind of, I kind of think it 

971
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,700
worked that way until they give 
me a reason to believe, 

972
00:51:29,700 --> 00:51:33,100
otherwise, to be honest. 
Yeah, I've got I've come around 

973
00:51:33,100 --> 00:51:34,900
on Madison. 
I've but I'd like, yeah, I don't

974
00:51:34,900 --> 00:51:37,000
think he's that guy. 
I don't like this price that 

975
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,300
much. 
Yeah, it feels. 

976
00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:42,800
Anytime I, anytime he's like 
available past ATP, though, I'm 

977
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,400
like, I should, I should do 
this. 

978
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,600
I should get exposure. 
Yeah, I was taking them a lot. 

979
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,100
I think at this price. 
Now, I don't know. 

980
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:53,000
Like, what are the actually the 
odds that Cook gets cut at this 

981
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,700
point? 
Like the postseason one? 

982
00:51:54,700 --> 00:51:57,500
Think you think they're high. 
So this is where I don't 

983
00:51:57,500 --> 00:51:59,500
understand something, I don't 
get it either. 

984
00:51:59,700 --> 00:52:03,700
The post June one thing like you
can designate guys post June 1 

985
00:52:03,700 --> 00:52:07,200
Cuts before June 1st, like 
that's what happened to Zeke. 

986
00:52:07,500 --> 00:52:10,400
Like he was designated a post 
you Like people are saying 

987
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,700
they're just gonna wait till 
June 1st and I think I caught 

988
00:52:12,700 --> 00:52:16,000
like they could designate cook. 
A post Jude first cut now, like 

989
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,300
that's not unless I'm wrong 
about that. 

990
00:52:18,300 --> 00:52:19,500
I'm pretty sure I'm right about 
here. 

991
00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:22,000
So we're not, you are not wrong.
So that's why I'm just like 

992
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,100
people are kind of I think 
misunderstanding that so it's 

993
00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:29,700
like what is going to cause cook
to get cut from here until June 

994
00:52:29,700 --> 00:52:31,400
1st? 
Like I do maybe you won't get 

995
00:52:31,900 --> 00:52:34,100
so. 
So apparently, Fowler this is a 

996
00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:37,200
better world. 
Had this that that Fowler said 

997
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,900
he's been told that the Vikings 
want Quote do right by Dalvin 

998
00:52:40,900 --> 00:52:44,100
cook and want him to go to a 
place where he can be happy 

999
00:52:44,100 --> 00:52:47,500
where he can play and be happy. 
So what I think they might be 

1000
00:52:47,500 --> 00:52:49,700
doing is just like hanging on 
there. 

1001
00:52:49,700 --> 00:52:51,300
Like we don't have to cut them 
until after June 1st. 

1002
00:52:51,300 --> 00:52:55,400
Anyway, let's see if starter 
goes down somewhere. 

1003
00:52:55,500 --> 00:52:58,100
Then we can trade cook there. 
That's great for us. 

1004
00:52:58,100 --> 00:53:00,800
That's great for him sharing and
we can all kind of be happy and 

1005
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,000
move on where I don't know, 
maybe they maybe worst case 

1006
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,100
scenario in their minds. 
They would just keep cooking 

1007
00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:12,000
play him but I think If anyone 
gets hurt and is interested in 

1008
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,800
cook like he's the Vikings are 
jumping at that. 

1009
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,100
That's the thing. 
Right? 

1010
00:53:16,100 --> 00:53:19,700
Is that I think a trade is more 
likely than like they don't have

1011
00:53:19,700 --> 00:53:21,900
an incentive to just outright 
caught him unless they're just 

1012
00:53:21,900 --> 00:53:24,100
cheap and don't want to 
physically hand him the cash. 

1013
00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:26,800
Like I don't think cap wise, 
they really are incentivized to 

1014
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,000
do that anymore. 
So yeah I guess it's a question 

1015
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,700
is does a trade materialize for 
him? 

1016
00:53:32,700 --> 00:53:36,400
I guess I see some potential 
Landing spots but I would 

1017
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,300
handicapped odds of him being on
the Vikings at I think. 

1018
00:53:39,500 --> 00:53:41,700
FDR called close to 50/50. 
I don't know if you guys 

1019
00:53:41,700 --> 00:53:45,300
disagree so less stable but I 
think it's a good point that he 

1020
00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:48,800
probably won't get caught, but I
would say probably last just 

1021
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,200
because, you know, guys get hurt
in training camp. 

1022
00:53:51,500 --> 00:53:53,000
Yeah. 
So if you think it's less than 

1023
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,900
I'm kind of surprised that 
you're not in on Madison at 

1024
00:53:55,900 --> 00:53:57,100
that. 
Like, if you think, well, that's

1025
00:53:57,100 --> 00:53:59,000
how I feel kind of regret, I 
feel like I kind of missed the 

1026
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,900
boat, and I don't want to like, 
chase them up, but I do feel 

1027
00:54:01,900 --> 00:54:05,100
like I was wrong on Madison and 
it should have had more, and I 

1028
00:54:05,100 --> 00:54:10,800
do want to mix him in now, even 
at this price, Because I am 

1029
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,500
underweight, and I'm like, that 
looks pretty bad. 

1030
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,600
So let me let me make sure I'm 
am mixing them in even though 

1031
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,400
the price has gone up a bit that
makes sense. 

1032
00:54:22,300 --> 00:54:24,500
Another guy want to talk about 
with you guys is Christian 

1033
00:54:24,500 --> 00:54:26,200
Watson. 
I don't think you touched on a 

1034
00:54:26,207 --> 00:54:32,800
lot so far this offseason he's 
up two spots to 42 overall going

1035
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,400
behind guys. 
Like Amari Cooper. 

1036
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,800
But now head of guys like 
DeAndre Hopkins Drake London, DJ

1037
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:38,900
more. 
I think he's passed. 

1038
00:54:38,900 --> 00:54:45,000
So There's like a micro Tony 
narrative with Watson, I think 

1039
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,600
where the target / outrun yards 
per hour on stuff is really 

1040
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,800
high. 
He was not running all the 

1041
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,400
routes, obviously, what was 
running more than Tony was, but 

1042
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,400
there's a little bit of that 
narrative with him. 

1043
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,300
So, yeah, curious Davis in the 
stored in love offense. 

1044
00:54:58,300 --> 00:55:00,400
How have you been treating 
Christian Watson? 

1045
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,900
So, like, on one hand, it both 
feels insane, right? 

1046
00:55:04,900 --> 00:55:07,500
It just like like, objectively 
feels insane for a guy who 

1047
00:55:07,500 --> 00:55:09,400
basically son. 
Ram, touchdown. 

1048
00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:15,100
That's 48 games to go this high.
But then to me I find myself 

1049
00:55:15,100 --> 00:55:18,900
clicking him a lot because I 
look at the guys around him one,

1050
00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:22,300
it's like stack partners for 
these guys are kind of hard. 

1051
00:55:22,300 --> 00:55:25,000
So like Amari Cooper I don't 
love paying that price on 

1052
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:29,800
DeShaun Watson Calvin Ridley, 
fine like obviously question 

1053
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:34,700
marks there, don't love paying 
that price tag on on Trevor 

1054
00:55:34,700 --> 00:55:38,100
Lawrence and then DJ more I'm 
like completely out on at this 

1055
00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:39,800
price. 
I just I'm not going to Then eat

1056
00:55:39,808 --> 00:55:42,800
them at wide receiver. 20 don't 
really love Mike Williams or 

1057
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,700
Keenan Allen don't really like 
you under Hopkins because of the

1058
00:55:45,707 --> 00:55:48,200
stack partner don't really like 
Drake London because of the 

1059
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,800
stack partner don't really like 
Terry McLaren because of the 

1060
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,100
stack partner don't you know and
it literally goes on down to 

1061
00:55:54,100 --> 00:55:55,700
Michael. 
Pittman at wide receiver 28. 

1062
00:55:55,700 --> 00:55:59,200
Before I find a stack partner 
that I like and so I'm looking 

1063
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,000
at that range. 
I'm like yeah shit. 

1064
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,100
I'm just going to take Christian
Watson because Jordan loves 

1065
00:56:04,100 --> 00:56:07,000
quarterback. 21 feels like a 
totally appropriate price that 

1066
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,400
can be my second quarterback. 
I can take Romeo Dallaire. 

1067
00:56:09,500 --> 00:56:13,400
Jobs for a double stack in like 
the 15th round easy peasy. 

1068
00:56:13,900 --> 00:56:16,000
So it's like I don't even love 
Christian Watson but just for 

1069
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,600
structural reasons, it just 
makes a lot of sense is really 

1070
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,200
what it comes down to. 
That's fair Pat, what are you? 

1071
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,700
What do you think about Watson? 
I'm in the same boat and when I 

1072
00:56:25,700 --> 00:56:28,600
get to, you know what I'm 
thinking about who I'm taking 

1073
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,400
and like it's pretty easy for me
to imagine Christian Watson 

1074
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,000
having a really big week in the 
playoffs, you know that's like 

1075
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,400
his archetype and so it's like 
it's a tiebreaker sort of thing.

1076
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,200
I am kind of into him. 
He's he's interesting because he

1077
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:46,500
like really over performed his 
volume compared to the first 

1078
00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:48,200
retarget that he had last year 
as well. 

1079
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:53,200
Which has been something that is
really good. 

1080
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,800
If you get if you're like a 
number one wide receiver, you 

1081
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,200
want to do that because you 
never going to like the first 

1082
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,700
three targets alone aren't going
to get you to an elite status. 

1083
00:57:02,500 --> 00:57:04,400
You need to be more efficient 
than that. 

1084
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,900
You need to earn additional 
targets and When you're not the 

1085
00:57:09,900 --> 00:57:11,900
first read, that's like kind of 
what a super star wide receiver 

1086
00:57:11,900 --> 00:57:16,700
can do but it also makes it a 
like a little less like a little

1087
00:57:16,700 --> 00:57:18,400
more concerning that he's like 
kind of get this 

1088
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,000
flash-in-the-pan thing going on 
where like he wasn't actually 

1089
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,800
like a huge part of the offense.
He wasn't getting a ton of first

1090
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,100
retards wasn't getting a ton of 
routes so like which which is he

1091
00:57:27,100 --> 00:57:29,800
is he is star. 
Who can overperform volume or is

1092
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,500
he a guy who got really hot? 
And now his quarterbacks gotten 

1093
00:57:33,500 --> 00:57:36,500
way worse. 
So let's just Aaron Rodgers 

1094
00:57:36,500 --> 00:57:39,100
forcing them to design targets 
for a Randall Cobb and Allen 

1095
00:57:39,100 --> 00:57:41,400
Lazard. 
Well that might be to. 

1096
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:42,500
Yeah. 
Maybe his routes are going to 

1097
00:57:42,500 --> 00:57:45,300
spike way up now, the Rogers 
gone so I see your point. 

1098
00:57:45,500 --> 00:57:50,700
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've like he's
one of these guys were like it 

1099
00:57:50,700 --> 00:57:54,000
is kind of Tony is sort of a 
good comparison except I'm more 

1100
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,800
in on Watson. 
Like I don't think he's a smash 

1101
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:01,100
where he's going, but the upside
makes him very viable where he's

1102
00:58:01,100 --> 00:58:03,900
going and there's lots of other 
red flags in this area. 

1103
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:08,800
One guy kind of go to bat for a 
little bit is Tara McLaren. 

1104
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:13,000
In where? 
Maybe not over like Watson but I

1105
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,600
just think in general like he's 
it's like again you don't know. 

1106
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,000
You don't need to know who the 
quarterback. 

1107
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,600
He said, t, he has two outs, two
decent quarterback play. 

1108
00:58:20,900 --> 00:58:23,600
And I think he could be someone 
that we're like, looking back on

1109
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,300
like why aren't we taking more 
of him with, you know, kind of a

1110
00:58:27,300 --> 00:58:29,900
clear like down. 
Downfield ability. 

1111
00:58:29,900 --> 00:58:33,300
And you know, shown the ability 
of our many years to earn 

1112
00:58:33,300 --> 00:58:36,000
targets and is an old. 
Yeah I like McCall. 

1113
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,500
I mean I think McLaren you just 
pencil them in for 1,100 yards 

1114
00:58:39,500 --> 00:58:43,100
and 16 touchdowns and Like if he
doesn't get injured like it's 

1115
00:58:43,100 --> 00:58:45,900
hard to see how he doesn't get 
that in my opinion, but it 

1116
00:58:45,900 --> 00:58:47,500
doesn't. 
There's I think there's a little

1117
00:58:47,500 --> 00:58:51,400
bit of like boring player who's 
been good for a while that were 

1118
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,100
just a little bit bored of thing
going on with McLaren and even 

1119
00:58:54,100 --> 00:58:56,700
Keenan Allen, you can make that 
18 announced another guy like 

1120
00:58:56,700 --> 00:58:59,500
to. 
Yeah, I like yeah that was the 

1121
00:58:59,500 --> 00:59:02,500
the two names of pushback on 
Davis's last where I like Keenan

1122
00:59:02,500 --> 00:59:03,700
Allen. 
I like McLaren. 

1123
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,100
If a tp'ed made me how many 
games and Keenan Allen's career 

1124
00:59:07,100 --> 00:59:09,500
has he gotten to 20 half PPR 
points? 

1125
00:59:09,500 --> 00:59:11,200
Honestly I think they'll I think
Law. 

1126
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,700
I think his weekly upsides a 
little underrated. 

1127
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:18,400
I don't have that on hand Davis,
but I think like he's had plenty

1128
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,200
of games where he smashes and II
sleep. 

1129
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,800
I sleep like a fucking baby at 
night knowing that I had no 

1130
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,000
keeping an eye on Keenan. 
Allen key. 

1131
00:59:27,100 --> 00:59:29,900
There will be a lot of reasons 
why I don't win best Ball Mania 

1132
00:59:29,900 --> 00:59:31,800
for but not having Keenan. 
Allen is not. 

1133
00:59:33,100 --> 00:59:39,000
So if I would check out Kyle, 
had a tweet thread or tweet 

1134
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,700
about Keenan, Allen Kyle, 
DeVore. 

1135
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,600
Check recently. 
And I'm, I don't have it on hand

1136
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:47,800
but he was pacing for like a 
legit wide receiver one season 

1137
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,000
last year when he was healthy 
like he was straight up just I 

1138
00:59:51,008 --> 00:59:52,400
mean. 
Yeah, you can say that injury 

1139
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,300
concerns saying, whatever. 
Like it's not easy, it was 

1140
00:59:55,300 --> 00:59:59,300
bawling when he was 31 and now 
and now they're not going to 

1141
00:59:59,308 --> 01:00:04,800
have the dinkin dunk, 4.8 ypa, 
offense, it just I get it. 

1142
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,100
I do, I'm not saying you 
shouldn't take you now and I'm 

1143
01:00:07,100 --> 01:00:10,300
not saying people who are over 
the wait, like two really easy. 

1144
01:00:10,300 --> 01:00:12,800
Click. 
That turn you take her actually.

1145
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,100
I think the smart thing is and I
bet this will be reflected in a 

1146
01:00:16,100 --> 01:00:20,000
teepee at some point is you 
actually take Herbert first and 

1147
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,400
then you get your choice if 
you're if you got to have a turn

1148
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,000
pick their then you get your 
choice out of Keenan or Mike 

1149
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:29,200
instead of leaving your dickhead
opponents, the option of taking 

1150
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:33,600
Herbert after you take Keenan, 
because let me tell you, the are

1151
01:00:33,607 --> 01:00:35,900
nothing. 
Nothing worse than taking 

1152
01:00:35,900 --> 01:00:37,600
Keenan. 
And then, having Herbert's night

1153
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,300
from you, it's fine. 
You can do the, you can do the 

1154
01:00:40,300 --> 01:00:42,300
Broncos. 
Thing on the other side, even if

1155
01:00:42,300 --> 01:00:43,600
you don't go Russ you just saw 
that. 

1156
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,400
Just a doctor gave up. 
Yeah. 

1157
01:00:45,500 --> 01:00:48,300
And also, but I don't want to be
naked Herbert, what am I getting

1158
01:00:48,300 --> 01:00:50,500
Quinton Johnson Tempest? 
But ahead of the actually, kind 

1159
01:00:50,500 --> 01:00:53,100
of like quick Point Johnson, 
what odds? 

1160
01:00:53,100 --> 01:00:55,800
Can I like you're gonna be okay,
what odds can I get on quittin, 

1161
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,100
Johnston more fantasy points, 
weeks, nine through 17, then 

1162
01:00:59,100 --> 01:01:02,300
Keenan Allen. 
Oh man, I would bet that I'd bet

1163
01:01:02,300 --> 01:01:05,000
that with you, that's not. 
Well, you mean out, okay. 

1164
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,900
We might give me, give me give 
me a fairy. 

1165
01:01:06,900 --> 01:01:09,600
Give me a, like, someone someone
give me a number and I'll let 

1166
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,300
you know if I think it's better.
Or not. 

1167
01:01:12,500 --> 01:01:17,300
I would give, I don't know 
three-to-one odds, I was why I 

1168
01:01:17,308 --> 01:01:19,100
was thinking 421, felt bad 
apple. 

1169
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:24,200
Florida one because Kenan Kenan 
is the wide receiver 24 in qjs, 

1170
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,200
the wide receiver 43, I think. 
Yeah, but you didn't say over 

1171
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,200
the season, you're getting the 
rookie thing. 

1172
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,700
You're getting the rookie coming
on, let me just say that. 

1173
01:01:31,700 --> 01:01:35,800
If, if you just gonna have to 
four weeks nine through 17, the 

1174
01:01:35,808 --> 01:01:38,500
Gap would be way less and 
already pays fair. 

1175
01:01:38,500 --> 01:01:40,500
Fair fair. 
Come on, Keenan. 

1176
01:01:40,500 --> 01:01:42,400
Allen is just so much better 
than coincidence, Quinton 

1177
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:43,400
Johnson. 
I'm not. 

1178
01:01:44,100 --> 01:01:46,700
I see you. 
Do you guys realize the Keenan 

1179
01:01:46,700 --> 01:01:51,700
Allen had two separate. 19 
Target weeks in 2020. 

1180
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,400
That's what that's what I'm 
saying is like. 

1181
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,900
He he's, I don't know if like, 
this is like cocky about Jamison

1182
01:01:57,900 --> 01:02:00,800
Crowder with Leone. 
It's like, I know what it's 

1183
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,200
like. 
I know what he's saying is, 

1184
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:03,700
right? 
But I just do not care. 

1185
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,800
Like, you can't make me kick. 
Like, it is my right as an 

1186
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:13,600
American to not care about. 
Get, are you at that? 

1187
01:02:15,500 --> 01:02:18,000
Let's talk, let's see. 
Who's on here. 

1188
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,700
That we haven't talked about, 
like, Evan, licen McKinnon 

1189
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,400
McKinnon rice, we've talked 
about those guys law. 

1190
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,700
I mean, that's true. 
Yeah, is this story a little 

1191
01:02:25,700 --> 01:02:27,100
obvious? 
That's just the Cincinnati 

1192
01:02:27,100 --> 01:02:28,800
thing. 
Also the mcentee, like I think 

1193
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,500
it's a little bit of the 
McKinnon news is still not fully

1194
01:02:31,500 --> 01:02:33,200
baked in. 
Maybe let's talk with kid in. 

1195
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:37,800
Like, what? 
What is his like settling ATP. 

1196
01:02:37,900 --> 01:02:41,200
He's at 1:30 right now still 
behind, guys, like Gibson. 

1197
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:45,800
Elijah Mitchell Jamaal Williams 
Khalil Herbert Damien Harris. 

1198
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,300
He is not actually much more 
than this Kenny. 

1199
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,500
He is see ya. 
Yeah I was going to say like 

1200
01:02:53,500 --> 01:02:56,900
maybe maybe 12, 12 spot, ten 
spots higher. 

1201
01:02:56,900 --> 01:02:59,000
I would probably take him over 
Jamaal Williams. 

1202
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,600
Yeah we do. 
I'll take him over Gibson and 

1203
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,600
Herbert I wouldn't take him over
Eli Mitchell. 

1204
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,900
I wouldn't take him over Damien 
Harris it seems like his rise 

1205
01:03:06,900 --> 01:03:10,400
has got to stop pretty soon and 
and it's sort of done with like 

1206
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,800
the implicit understanding that 
your knowing that like, this 

1207
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,200
guy's not playing the first two 
months of the Season. 

1208
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:20,000
Really, you know, like, like we 
all sort of acknowledge that And

1209
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,300
they still, they still might be 
one of these teams that gives 

1210
01:03:22,300 --> 01:03:25,500
Igor, Dalvin, cook or Leonard 
fournette or whoever, you know, 

1211
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:26,800
right? 
Yeah. 

1212
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,200
And the thing is with him, 
that's interesting. 

1213
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,600
Is like, I think from a weekly 
seal individual, weekly ceiling 

1214
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,800
standpoint, the quarterback 
running backs tax. 

1215
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,700
I don't really like, but with 
Mahomes in the Kenan I kind of 

1216
01:03:36,700 --> 01:03:40,000
liked that a lot like he had 
some huge receiving games last 

1217
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:44,800
year in my home Spike week, so 
the McKinnon six catches 80 

1218
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,200
yards and two touchdowns game, I
think still exists. 

1219
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,000
So he's a pretty interesting. 
NG stack partner with my homes 

1220
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:56,600
from that standpoint but yeah I 
don't think he should rise to 

1221
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,600
much more than this. 
I don't think so either. 

1222
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:06,700
I'm actually behind ATP now in 
my ranks not a ton but yeah, got

1223
01:04:06,700 --> 01:04:08,000
it. 
All right, I'll give you guys 

1224
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,900
the floor. 
Any Other Name, any other names 

1225
01:04:10,900 --> 01:04:13,300
of guys you want to either make 
the case for hear or say they're

1226
01:04:13,300 --> 01:04:15,200
way too high. 
Otherwise let's move on to the 

1227
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:19,400
father's I don't really like 
Bateman but I get it. 

1228
01:04:19,500 --> 01:04:23,200
It. 
I like, I do like Bayman but you

1229
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,100
ottoman, you want to Mentor the 
auction League. 

1230
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,100
I don't have never mind 
differently. 

1231
01:04:27,300 --> 01:04:31,500
I think I have any candy I'm 
trying to sell. 

1232
01:04:34,500 --> 01:04:37,600
Let's let's, uh, followers here 
again. 

1233
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:41,300
We say on the show we're Market 
Movers, Jonathan Taylor is down 

1234
01:04:41,300 --> 01:04:44,900
again. 
After I fought at him, even 

1235
01:04:44,900 --> 01:04:48,800
though I've taken him in like 
30% of my bbm team so far, don't

1236
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,500
ask you actually are doing what 
they What touts always been 

1237
01:04:51,500 --> 01:04:54,800
accused of here. 
Looks opposite of pumping. 

1238
01:04:54,800 --> 01:05:00,900
What's the opposite of that? 
I'm doing that. 

1239
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:06,300
I'm fun scooping Taylor because 
again, week 17 correlation I 

1240
01:05:06,300 --> 01:05:09,300
invented the concept I won't go 
into that too much detail, but 

1241
01:05:09,900 --> 01:05:11,500
the Raiders are playing the 
Colts. 

1242
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,300
The Raiders are playing the 
Colts in week 17. 

1243
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:22,100
So you take Devante take Taylor,
but Yeah, not a lot of names 

1244
01:05:22,100 --> 01:05:24,300
here that like kind of makes 
sense, I guess Allen is the 

1245
01:05:24,300 --> 01:05:25,400
interesting one we should talk 
about. 

1246
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:29,000
We did kind of say last show if 
any of the quarterback atp's 

1247
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,000
we're going to fall Alan is the 
one that makes sense with the 

1248
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:35,500
stack partners with a week 17 
stuff, he is falling a little 

1249
01:05:35,500 --> 01:05:38,600
bit again, just one spot, but it
is a pretty big as a percentage 

1250
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,500
of his ATP. 
What do we think? 

1251
01:05:40,500 --> 01:05:43,200
Does that? 
Like dude can digs drafters 

1252
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,900
expect to get Alan in the third 
round? 

1253
01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:48,800
Or is that just a fantasy? 
What do we think is? 

1254
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,900
Alan is Alan's fault. 
All going to continue Davis. 

1255
01:05:51,900 --> 01:05:55,400
What are your thoughts? 
Um, yeah, I mean I think I think

1256
01:05:55,400 --> 01:06:01,000
we'll probably see because the 
initial reaction of everyone 

1257
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,600
I've talked to who's like I 
haven't done any drafts, they 

1258
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,600
open up Underdog. 
They go hop into a puppy they go

1259
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,900
hop in a best while. 
Mainly they cannot believe the 

1260
01:06:07,900 --> 01:06:09,600
quarterback ATP. 
Right. 

1261
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,000
That you just what? 
Universally that is the 

1262
01:06:12,008 --> 01:06:15,500
response. 
But as we outlined on last 

1263
01:06:15,500 --> 01:06:17,500
week's, show for, like, 
literally at we'd like went 

1264
01:06:17,500 --> 01:06:20,300
through the entire exercise, it 
is lit. 

1265
01:06:20,300 --> 01:06:23,300
Like Mahomes is not going to 
fall the, I actually. 

1266
01:06:23,300 --> 01:06:26,800
Okay, this is the one way he 
could fall. 

1267
01:06:26,900 --> 01:06:31,800
The one way he could fall, would
be if people just are whatever 

1268
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,500
Travis Kelce, he's 34 like we're
just going to stop Drafting and 

1269
01:06:34,500 --> 01:06:36,900
we're taking all these other 
guys instead of them and if 

1270
01:06:36,900 --> 01:06:39,900
Kelsey becomes like the 10th 
pick, that's a little bit too 

1271
01:06:39,900 --> 01:06:42,400
early to take Mahomes, so then 
you could see the Mahomes 

1272
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,600
drafter be like, try and play. 
ADP game, and just try and get 

1273
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,000
him in the third round or 
whatever. 

1274
01:06:48,500 --> 01:06:50,800
Hurts. 
No way Hertz is just he's 

1275
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,100
always, he's almost like 
cemented into the spot where 

1276
01:06:53,100 --> 01:06:56,000
he's going, due to the two 
pressures of AJ, Brown and 

1277
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,000
Nevada, Smith on the other side 
of him, but Alan doesn't have 

1278
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,300
that same pressure because I 
think you can easily tell 

1279
01:07:02,300 --> 01:07:07,500
yourself as like I don't need to
get Alan with digs or just those

1280
01:07:07,500 --> 01:07:09,800
atp's. 
Don't perfectly line up you know

1281
01:07:09,900 --> 01:07:13,600
the way the calcium homes ATP. 
If you pulled up a big board of 

1282
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,000
ATP right now, they literally 
perfectly line up. 

1283
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,200
So yeah, I think, I think Alan 
will continue to fall. 

1284
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:24,100
I think Taylor will probably 
fall a little bit more the name 

1285
01:07:24,100 --> 01:07:25,700
on this list. 
That doesn't make sense to me as

1286
01:07:25,700 --> 01:07:28,500
a follower is Michael Meyer. 
Because every day I wake up and 

1287
01:07:28,500 --> 01:07:31,400
don't Kincaid is like another 
three spots higher in the ATP 

1288
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,300
refresh. 
Like it's insane. 

1289
01:07:34,500 --> 01:07:36,300
I think Knox is actually 
becoming a value now. 

1290
01:07:36,700 --> 01:07:40,300
I agree. 
He's on the folders here on Alan

1291
01:07:40,300 --> 01:07:46,500
thing, like I do wonder the one 
thing that could make the elite.

1292
01:07:46,700 --> 01:07:53,800
X fall a bit is if Borough Falls
a bit to the end of the fourth 

1293
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:58,400
because I did have a puppy where
I went Jamar tasty Higgins and I

1294
01:07:58,408 --> 01:08:01,000
was like, I'm going for it. 
I'm going to, I'm going to get 

1295
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:06,700
40 and I got burrow and to get 
like that double stack with a 

1296
01:08:06,700 --> 01:08:13,200
fourth-round pick is is pretty 
fun and I think it's like that 

1297
01:08:13,300 --> 01:08:15,700
becomes an option even if you're
not double stacking, if you just

1298
01:08:15,700 --> 01:08:19,300
go chase or Higgins and you get 
your able to get burrow in the 

1299
01:08:19,300 --> 01:08:24,200
fourth then I think it becomes 
like less of a priority to like 

1300
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:27,899
grab and unstacked Allen or you 
know unstack Mahomes and figure 

1301
01:08:27,899 --> 01:08:30,399
that out later. 
You're like I can actually stack

1302
01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:36,600
this up with the burrow side so 
that that would be that would be

1303
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:42,200
kind of one way because holding 
only other hand though, like the

1304
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,899
Josh Allen thing like Burrell 
has been going in kind of this, 

1305
01:08:45,899 --> 01:08:48,899
no man's land. 
I was like who is drafting 

1306
01:08:48,899 --> 01:08:50,000
burrow? 
Stacked ever. 

1307
01:08:50,300 --> 01:08:54,000
The key must just be going on 
stacked in like every draft so 

1308
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,600
that makes it harder for me to 
see Alan falling all the way 

1309
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,800
back to digs in the third round 
because I think someone at the 

1310
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:04,000
303's just like fuck it all. 
I'll see ya that I think that 

1311
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,500
that's a thing. 
Where the solo Josh Allen is a 

1312
01:09:06,508 --> 01:09:10,600
lot more appealing than you know
the on SEC Joe barroso I agree 

1313
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,200
with Davis's case that like I 
think you can make an argument 

1314
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,399
for why Alan falls to the mid 
third. 

1315
01:09:15,399 --> 01:09:18,100
I don't think that's like the 
The most likely I think it's I 

1316
01:09:18,100 --> 01:09:21,399
think it's possible though. 
Whereas, with Mahomes, I don't 

1317
01:09:21,399 --> 01:09:23,899
know the home again with the 
week 17 stuff. 

1318
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,300
I think, you know, Jamar Chase 
Mahomes starts will be pretty 

1319
01:09:27,300 --> 01:09:30,399
popular, you know, T Higgins. 
My home starts at the two, three

1320
01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:31,899
turn will also be pretty 
popular. 

1321
01:09:31,899 --> 01:09:35,399
That I have a hard time seeing 
my home slide all the way. 

1322
01:09:36,300 --> 01:09:40,399
So yeah. 
Well we'll see though, the other

1323
01:09:40,399 --> 01:09:46,000
thing that's maybe slightly 
interesting here, Dalvin cook. 

1324
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,300
I guess we do Have to talk about
a tan at sort of the inverse of 

1325
01:09:48,300 --> 01:09:50,399
the mass and stuff. 
They were just talking through 

1326
01:09:50,899 --> 01:09:55,400
DJ more is sliding a little and 
I think I'd attribute this to 

1327
01:09:56,700 --> 01:10:00,500
just some probably honestly 
Leone's tweet was a big part of 

1328
01:10:00,500 --> 01:10:06,200
this drop Leone tweeted out that
DJ more is just way behind. 

1329
01:10:06,700 --> 01:10:10,200
I think basically this case was 
to paraphrase, even if you put 

1330
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,500
in a really optimistic past 
projection, for the Bears, even 

1331
01:10:13,500 --> 01:10:16,400
if you really sort of tweak up, 
DJ Moore's, individual 

1332
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:20,100
Efficiency. 
This ATP just isn't justified by

1333
01:10:20,100 --> 01:10:22,300
the projection and by their ETR 
ranking. 

1334
01:10:22,300 --> 01:10:27,100
So I think it's fair, I think 
more is really being pulled out 

1335
01:10:27,100 --> 01:10:30,200
by just the fact that Justin 
Fields drafter wants to stack 

1336
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,700
fields and more and I think is 
fair EDP is probably around 

1337
01:10:34,700 --> 01:10:38,800
around and a half cheaper Davis,
I don't Davis already mentioned,

1338
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,300
DJ more Pat. 
Do you agree with Leone? 

1339
01:10:41,300 --> 01:10:47,600
That more is overvalued costs. 
Yeah, I had more as kind of a in

1340
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:51,300
early fifth type of value when I
was tearing everything out in my

1341
01:10:51,300 --> 01:10:56,100
ranks and but then I ended up 
having him ranked, like, pretty 

1342
01:10:56,100 --> 01:11:01,200
close to ADP, because that 
General range is so gross as we 

1343
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,600
kind of outlined earlier. 
Like, there's no one that really

1344
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,300
jumps out. 
And and then I was like, well, I

1345
01:11:06,300 --> 01:11:09,000
can also get the stack here with
Fields. 

1346
01:11:09,300 --> 01:11:14,500
And if more beats expectations, 
I think he probably Crushes, 

1347
01:11:14,500 --> 01:11:19,700
expectations. 
And a lot of those outcomes, you

1348
01:11:19,700 --> 01:11:23,200
know, because like he could, he 
could have a huge Target share 

1349
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,000
and Fields. 
Takes a step forward as a 

1350
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:29,200
pastor, and this is like, kind 
of year, one of fields, having a

1351
01:11:29,208 --> 01:11:30,600
coaching staff, who believes in 
him. 

1352
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,700
So, I guess first year in the 
entire in the NFL, where that's 

1353
01:11:33,700 --> 01:11:36,400
the case. 
So, I do think there's some 

1354
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,800
really high end ceiling outcomes
that you get with more. 

1355
01:11:38,900 --> 01:11:42,400
And it's a Bad Bet on Talent 
play, which I like he's what 

1356
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,300
cheaper than he was last year. 
When He had horrific quarterback

1357
01:11:45,300 --> 01:11:47,100
play. 
So like a number of ways that I 

1358
01:11:47,100 --> 01:11:51,300
think I can. 
I can see it hitting on the 

1359
01:11:51,300 --> 01:11:54,000
other hand. 
Like the math Leone was just 

1360
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,000
like the math just straight up 
like doesn't work. 

1361
01:11:56,200 --> 01:12:01,200
Davis is out righteous out. 
Like I'm like I'm sitting alone 

1362
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:05,100
here on DJ more Island so they 
do they believe in him. 

1363
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,700
I think they believe in him. 
Yeah because they just trade it 

1364
01:12:08,700 --> 01:12:10,300
away. 
The number one overall pick like

1365
01:12:10,300 --> 01:12:13,300
you I mean they could have 
traded fields and dragon started

1366
01:12:13,300 --> 01:12:14,900
over. 
Like there. 

1367
01:12:14,900 --> 01:12:17,200
Is that the market? 
I bet the market was way more 

1368
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,700
hot for the number one pick than
for Justin Fields. 

1369
01:12:19,700 --> 01:12:23,100
Sure, I would bet I would bet my
bottom dollar, the, the pet 

1370
01:12:23,100 --> 01:12:27,100
trade package was better, and 
but maybe there are two Fields 

1371
01:12:27,100 --> 01:12:28,400
doesn't work out. 
No, you're getting fired. 

1372
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,500
So, they know I think you can 
sell it to the guys upstairs and

1373
01:12:31,500 --> 01:12:35,500
say a field sucks. 
You know, it's coming Kaleb 

1374
01:12:35,500 --> 01:12:38,000
Williams. 
Strike May well. 

1375
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,700
Alright, if you're if you're the
third worst team in the NFL it's

1376
01:12:41,700 --> 01:12:44,400
get there, cleaning house. 
I got extra, they got extra ammo

1377
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,000
to trade and the Arizona. 
Cardinals might be one of those 

1378
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:51,100
first two picks and they have 
Kyla Murray in the Caribbean 

1379
01:12:51,100 --> 01:12:57,500
with all wrong with us. 
No Cardinals. 

1380
01:12:57,500 --> 01:13:00,100
Have the Cardinals, have their 
pick and the Texans pick. 

1381
01:13:00,100 --> 01:13:01,700
That's what I'm thinking. 
They have an extra pick. 

1382
01:13:01,700 --> 01:13:07,000
Okay, so there's II agree with 
your. 

1383
01:13:08,100 --> 01:13:10,900
So I think Leone's micro 
analysis is correct that. 

1384
01:13:10,900 --> 01:13:13,300
If you're doing projections, 
there's no way to make it work. 

1385
01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:15,500
I also agree with your macro 
analysis. 

1386
01:13:15,500 --> 01:13:18,700
That the thing that you could 
just plug it in the projections 

1387
01:13:18,700 --> 01:13:22,400
and make it work is oh Justin 
Fields is actually good, right? 

1388
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:26,300
Like if you S the actually good 
button inside the spreadsheet. 

1389
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:31,000
You do works a lot better. 
I'm ambivalent on is Justin 

1390
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,900
Fields actually good though. 
You know like I think he's I 

1391
01:13:33,900 --> 01:13:39,700
think he's an insanely talented 
rusher but the sack rate is like

1392
01:13:39,900 --> 01:13:43,900
because I think not only do you 
learn from a sack rate that a 

1393
01:13:43,900 --> 01:13:47,000
guy makes a lot of negative 
plays but it's also like just 

1394
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:50,200
you know an inability to see the
field like not not understanding

1395
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:54,400
what's unfolding in front of him
properly and that What would be 

1396
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,400
bad for DJ more? 
Yeah. 

1397
01:13:56,500 --> 01:13:59,300
And I think like, even and I 
probably the case that Leone 

1398
01:13:59,300 --> 01:14:02,100
makes to is that even if pass 
attempts arise a bunch like this

1399
01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:05,500
Bears team, like, people talk 
about how little the Falcons 

1400
01:14:05,500 --> 01:14:08,100
passed last year. 
The Bears were, like a full two 

1401
01:14:08,100 --> 01:14:10,300
and a half past tense for game 
less than the Falcon. 

1402
01:14:10,300 --> 01:14:14,000
Like they were truly like 
historically low in terms of 

1403
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,800
past times per game. 
Like you, I don't know. 

1404
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:21,000
You have to say that Fields 
takes less sacks scrambles less 

1405
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,300
there more, you know, 
philosophically. 

1406
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:27,100
Inclined to throw the ball. 
Instead of like there's a lot of

1407
01:14:27,100 --> 01:14:31,300
levers that have to go and 
Fields way for Moore's routes, 

1408
01:14:31,300 --> 01:14:33,800
and is receptions and everything
to make sense by the math. 

1409
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:38,200
So I don't know, I'm totally 
open to like, Fields being a lot

1410
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,300
better than it was last year, 
but like it's not just being 

1411
01:14:41,300 --> 01:14:44,200
like a little bit better. 
It's like completely changing 

1412
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,200
how they ran the offense like 
entirely. 

1413
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:49,400
Well I also think you do at 
least with more have the thing 

1414
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:54,000
of like he's been stuck in the 
Panther, on the Anthers with, 

1415
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:59,700
just, like horrible, horrible 
quarterback play about as bad as

1416
01:14:59,700 --> 01:15:03,100
like a receiver could have over,
you know, a three-year stretch. 

1417
01:15:03,500 --> 01:15:07,500
And the coaching has also not 
been great either. 

1418
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:12,900
So if you have, you do have, I 
think a bit of upside with more 

1419
01:15:14,100 --> 01:15:18,000
The talent being unlocked by a 
quarterback who wasn't horrible 

1420
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:23,100
and there, you know, so you can 
kind of so that's why it is 

1421
01:15:23,100 --> 01:15:26,000
appealing to me because not just
like if Fields as good as I'm 

1422
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,100
not taking much Darnell Mooney, 
you know what I mean? 

1423
01:15:28,300 --> 01:15:33,300
Like it's me it's the bet on 
Talent with DJ more and then you

1424
01:15:33,300 --> 01:15:36,100
know you get the Justin Fields 
is actually good button clicked 

1425
01:15:36,100 --> 01:15:38,400
and all the sudden the math 
makes some sense. 

1426
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:39,800
It still doesn't make a ton of 
sense though. 

1427
01:15:39,900 --> 01:15:42,300
Like my thing is I'm hoping he 
falls. 

1428
01:15:42,500 --> 01:15:43,400
Yep. 
In the projections. 

1429
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:44,300
Do there. 
Our work. 

1430
01:15:44,500 --> 01:15:47,600
He's got. 
And and if you can to me, if I 

1431
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,600
can get him in the fifth round, 
I'm in again. 

1432
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,400
I think I'm out for now in the 
fourth round. 

1433
01:15:53,500 --> 01:15:55,300
I think, I think I'm gonna take 
other, guys. 

1434
01:15:55,700 --> 01:15:59,100
I think he's going to swing all 
the way around like DJ more, is 

1435
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:04,000
the epitome of like the guy who 
fantasy sickos on Twitter, who 

1436
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:07,400
are Drafting and may like, who 
casual drafters are like fuck DJ

1437
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:08,400
more. 
Fuck that guy. 

1438
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,600
He's been a useless to me the 
past couple you like hundred 

1439
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,800
percent he's gonna he's gonna 
fall. 

1440
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:14,500
So like I just don't See that, 
that's why. 

1441
01:16:14,500 --> 01:16:17,100
I'm like I'm gonna be able to 
get these Stacks cheaper later 

1442
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,900
if for some reason he doesn't 
fall, I'll re correct and get 

1443
01:16:20,900 --> 01:16:24,000
some of them at this price for 
the ceiling but like I've been 

1444
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:27,100
full fading just because like 
I'm I'm convinced he's gonna 

1445
01:16:27,100 --> 01:16:29,000
fall and maybe I'm maybe I'm 
wrong about that. 

1446
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,900
We'll see. 
But I have strong conviction 

1447
01:16:32,900 --> 01:16:35,000
that other funny one dimension 
here. 

1448
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,300
Yeah Bryce young falling just 
because he looked really small 

1449
01:16:38,300 --> 01:16:42,600
and a video is a pretty funny 
ATP move in our know if you guys

1450
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:46,400
saw that video On Twitter, but 
you couldn't, you can see him 

1451
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:50,800
behind his offensive lineman. 
I've talked about this before 

1452
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:54,200
but I like, I like these rookie 
quarterbacks price young and see

1453
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,900
Jace crowd there. 
There Pat sketches are super 

1454
01:16:56,900 --> 01:16:59,200
cheap, the teams are super 
gross, I get it. 

1455
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,900
If one of these guys is just 
really good as a rookie, and I 

1456
01:17:02,907 --> 01:17:05,700
know that historically rookie 
quarterbacks, it's not the best 

1457
01:17:05,700 --> 01:17:07,900
bet, but the prices are so 
cheap. 

1458
01:17:07,900 --> 01:17:11,400
We you know, then I felt clearly
love these guys as prospects, I 

1459
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,700
want to mix them in, I sort of 
view them. 

1460
01:17:13,900 --> 01:17:17,800
Along the lines of sort of like 
Stafford in that group of late, 

1461
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,200
quarterbacks that have some 
upside. 

1462
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:23,000
I think I like Stafford a little
bit better but I do want some of

1463
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,100
these guys. 
You guys have thoughts on 

1464
01:17:25,100 --> 01:17:30,200
brushing at this price. 
I like both of them the same as 

1465
01:17:30,208 --> 01:17:32,400
you do. 
I mean I think there's probably 

1466
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,200
maybe like a little more upside 
with young because I think they 

1467
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,200
could go like they could lean 
into the past a little bit more 

1468
01:17:40,300 --> 01:17:41,900
where I think that Shanahan 
style system. 

1469
01:17:41,900 --> 01:17:43,900
They're going to play a pretty 
conservatively throughout 

1470
01:17:43,900 --> 01:17:46,600
Stroud's entire rookie year. 
But then Stroud you actually do 

1471
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,900
have the fact that, you know, 
he's bigger and could run a 

1472
01:17:49,907 --> 01:17:52,400
little bit more. 
You don't really run it down a 

1473
01:17:52,407 --> 01:17:56,300
college, that's the big debate 
but he could, so yeah. 

1474
01:17:56,300 --> 01:17:59,100
And he's fun to stack up. 
Man, I mean you got to work with

1475
01:17:59,100 --> 01:18:03,700
young, you got to do Mingo and 
then like I hate taking DJ shark

1476
01:18:03,700 --> 01:18:07,200
over Nico Collins even if I am 
setting up a young thing, you 

1477
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:12,400
can go Niko Collins and tank Del
as is a backless easiest route 

1478
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:16,300
stack and it's so fun. 
I like the tight end. 

1479
01:18:16,300 --> 01:18:17,400
I know you guys hate. 
You press. 

1480
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:19,000
Probably hate them but I like 
the Hayden. 

1481
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,300
Hearst Bryce young stack or so 
weird. 

1482
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:24,600
Enjoy your. 45% route, right 
dude. 

1483
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,600
Who come on guys? 
They pay them. 

1484
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,200
Like, they paid him enough. 
Guaranteed who the fuck? 

1485
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,300
Come on? 
He's gonna have the best day. 

1486
01:18:32,700 --> 01:18:35,300
Fake traffic drafted. 
Tight ends like repeatedly and 

1487
01:18:35,300 --> 01:18:40,800
they include in Indianapolis Mo,
Alan Cox, Kyle and granson. 

1488
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:42,600
Oh no sorry. 
I mean I'll do you do retire 

1489
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:46,300
this Ross who on this roster now
is gonna Plane overhead, nursed,

1490
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:50,400
literally, whoever any traffic 
going to pull up our Lads and 

1491
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:54,000
whoever, whatever name I see is 
who I needed to come on. 

1492
01:18:54,700 --> 01:18:56,400
I'm his there's, we play 
anybody. 

1493
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,600
You might not like it. 
But Hayden Harris is gonna have 

1494
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,800
the same role he had last year 
on The Bangles which was a good 

1495
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:02,600
roll. 
No, you will not? 

1496
01:19:02,700 --> 01:19:04,800
Yeah, he is dude. 
Come now, we will not. 

1497
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:06,400
That's not how this team is 
operating. 

1498
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:07,700
This is coaching staff thing, 
man. 

1499
01:19:08,700 --> 01:19:11,200
Ian Thomas Tommy, tremble. 
Tommy tremble. 

1500
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,800
Tommy trembles running like 35% 
the routes because he's out 

1501
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:15,900
there blocking That's how they 
wrote. 

1502
01:19:15,900 --> 01:19:17,200
That's how they treat the tight 
end position. 

1503
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,600
That's a philosophical thing. 
He's picked two hundred. 

1504
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:23,300
He's the starting tonight and 
get out of here, enjoy it. 

1505
01:19:23,300 --> 01:19:27,700
You're gonna have a great time 
55% Max and my take, am I taking

1506
01:19:27,700 --> 01:19:32,500
him like solo know, but like 
these Carolina Panthers wide 

1507
01:19:32,500 --> 01:19:34,300
receivers? 
Are you taking with Adam feel 

1508
01:19:34,300 --> 01:19:37,700
and what could go wrong? 
Not taking with them? 

1509
01:19:37,700 --> 01:19:39,400
Take it with mango, first of 
all. 

1510
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,000
Okay, who got the most 
guaranteed money, this offseason

1511
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:48,400
at tight end. 
Taste it Hayden nursed, let's 

1512
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,800
talk to us tomorrow. 
You still take some notes in, it

1513
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,300
knows a nurse. 
I think there's a bill makes 15 

1514
01:19:53,300 --> 01:19:58,300
million dollars a year in terms 
of guaranteed money receives 

1515
01:19:58,300 --> 01:20:01,600
this awesome in this so bad. 
Sorry. 

1516
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,700
Taste them only makes ten 
million dollars, my bad, my bad,

1517
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,500
he does show up here as a 
Faller. 

1518
01:20:11,700 --> 01:20:13,200
What are the what are the people
doing here? 

1519
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:14,100
You got to make. 
Yesterday. 

1520
01:20:14,100 --> 01:20:16,900
So, what are we doing? 
Williams, the tight end six last

1521
01:20:16,900 --> 01:20:18,600
year. 
What's the difference, dude? 

1522
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,400
I'm in, I'm still in. 
What, what, what is the, what is

1523
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,900
the logic for literally, seeing 
taysom, break, the game multiple

1524
01:20:25,900 --> 01:20:29,400
times last season? 
Is it just, I guess people are 

1525
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,800
scared that Jamal Williams 
Jamaal Williams spells the end 

1526
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:36,800
for taysom at the goal line, 
like the whole argument against 

1527
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:40,300
drafting taste and last year 
when he was cheap was oh you 

1528
01:20:40,308 --> 01:20:41,900
know, Sean Payton's, not the 
coach anymore. 

1529
01:20:41,900 --> 01:20:44,200
So exactly this new coach 
Coaching step. 

1530
01:20:44,500 --> 01:20:46,700
No, dude it's the same. 
You want to talk about fucking 

1531
01:20:46,700 --> 01:20:50,800
institutional memory? 
The Saints are the most 

1532
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:53,800
institutional memory ask team in
the league, like Taste of on 

1533
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,100
that roster. 
He wears number seven, dude. 

1534
01:20:56,100 --> 01:20:57,300
What do you got? 
What do you want him to do? 

1535
01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:01,300
Like he's gonna be taysom. 
Yeah, and probably helps the 

1536
01:21:01,300 --> 01:21:03,900
Camaro's going to get suspended 
for a huge chunk of the Season. 

1537
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,800
Yeah. 
Yeah. 100% is going to have a 

1538
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,400
goal on package. 
He's 100% going to have a goal 

1539
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:10,500
line package. 
What? 

1540
01:21:10,700 --> 01:21:13,400
Derek Carr, so good. 
You can't take Derek Carr off 

1541
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:16,600
the I feel like no. 
Yeah Derek are. 

1542
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,800
These are cars Andy Dalton like 
it's the same thing she's gonna 

1543
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:23,600
have like he'll he'll mix in 
like one or two deep touchdowns 

1544
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,000
for your to like he does that 
every year you know it's you're 

1545
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:27,800
not gonna be able to predict it.
Would you ever start him in a 

1546
01:21:27,808 --> 01:21:31,300
managed League know, but in and 
best of all it's just I think 

1547
01:21:31,300 --> 01:21:34,100
what he's actually down on is 
like the Foster Monroe signing 

1548
01:21:34,100 --> 01:21:37,500
which is just a complete 
misunderstanding of its little 

1549
01:21:37,500 --> 01:21:40,400
wrinkle is. 
He's not like he does not 

1550
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,300
compete with Foster. 04 Snappy 
isn't a tight end. 

1551
01:21:43,300 --> 01:21:45,400
Yeah. 
Isn't it sad that he's mad? 

1552
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:49,300
I think a great way for people 
to think about him would be, he 

1553
01:21:49,300 --> 01:21:53,100
is Dexter McCluster, but 240 
pounds, that would be, I think 

1554
01:21:53,100 --> 01:21:56,500
that would be a great way for 
people to think about taysom 

1555
01:21:56,500 --> 01:21:58,500
Hill is canaries. 
Tony on the Saints, he just has 

1556
01:21:58,500 --> 01:22:01,300
to score like six touchdowns. 
You want to talk about, you want

1557
01:22:01,300 --> 01:22:02,600
to talk about a target for 
Route? 

1558
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:07,800
Run King, taste, the mill. 
Yeah so funny, the not like that

1559
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:11,400
he's listed as a tight end, he 
had 13 and six targets the past 

1560
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:12,900
two years. 
Like I think he has more pass 

1561
01:22:12,900 --> 01:22:17,300
attempts than then targets, 
probably at least close to it. 

1562
01:22:17,300 --> 01:22:20,800
Like I never understood this 
tight end listing but I love it.

1563
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,500
I'm going to keep drafting them.
It makes no sense. 

1564
01:22:23,900 --> 01:22:27,500
I mean, imagine if like, Coral 
Patterson was listed as a tight 

1565
01:22:27,500 --> 01:22:31,500
end, I draft him in the left. 
That's sort of similar. 

1566
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:34,500
I think the Bijan thing makes it
tougher but that's like, he's 

1567
01:22:34,500 --> 01:22:39,800
like a Weapon is not a yeah. 
Yeah, it's done. 

1568
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,400
It really shouldn't be listed as
a tight end. 

1569
01:22:43,500 --> 01:22:47,500
He really, he really should. 
Like, I mean, I understand why 

1570
01:22:47,500 --> 01:22:50,000
they listed him there last year,
but he should be listed as a 

1571
01:22:50,008 --> 01:22:52,700
running back. 
Yeah, he's a running back, he's 

1572
01:22:52,700 --> 01:22:55,400
running back. 
Yeah, I mean, he should be 

1573
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,200
listed at, he's a court. 
Like he takes naps at 

1574
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,300
quarterback more than what it's 
I believe. 

1575
01:23:00,300 --> 01:23:04,000
I believe the fantasy thing 
takes a wild cat running back. 

1576
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:06,300
I believe they're listed the 
way. 

1577
01:23:06,300 --> 01:23:09,200
The teams list them, you know? 
Like The team send their stuff 

1578
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,500
into the NFL. 
I think that's how it works or 

1579
01:23:11,500 --> 01:23:13,500
how the distinctions are the 
distinct. 

1580
01:23:13,500 --> 01:23:17,000
The designations are done and I 
think the Saints list of it 

1581
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:18,700
tight end. 
Yeah. 

1582
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:22,900
And sorry CR not to pick on you,
but saying that they replaced 

1583
01:23:22,900 --> 01:23:25,500
haysom by signing tight ends. 
It's missing the point that 

1584
01:23:25,500 --> 01:23:28,800
taste them is not a time. 
He's not at like Foster Monroe 

1585
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,600
and Joe and aunt, just a 
fundamental misunderstanding of 

1586
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,700
what taste them. 
So role is on this team, which 

1587
01:23:33,700 --> 01:23:35,600
is he's not a tight end. 
He's not a running back, he's 

1588
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,300
not a wide receiver. 
He's not a quarterback. 

1589
01:23:37,300 --> 01:23:41,700
He literally, He is probably the
only guy in the NFL right now 

1590
01:23:41,900 --> 01:23:44,100
that would, I would say you can 
actually give them the 

1591
01:23:44,100 --> 01:23:46,700
designation of offensive weapon.
That's what he is. 

1592
01:23:46,700 --> 01:23:51,300
He's there to play about 15 
snaps a game and to be used in 

1593
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,500
creative ways. 
Yeah, and I think to say like 

1594
01:23:54,500 --> 01:23:58,900
that he liked his role to Snaps 
are gone because they brought in

1595
01:23:58,900 --> 01:24:00,200
Jamaal Williams and Kendra 
Miller. 

1596
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:04,600
Like, I think, like, you got to 
understand that Dennis Allen has

1597
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,200
like his taste in plays like 
first, like those aren't 

1598
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:10,700
flippers are Head of whatever 
conceivable Place The Taste in 

1599
01:24:10,700 --> 01:24:13,300
place. 
I mean, again to really drive 

1600
01:24:13,300 --> 01:24:18,000
this point home for guy who is 
the offensive coordinator of the

1601
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,500
Saints, is the same guy who's 
been offensive coordinator 

1602
01:24:20,500 --> 01:24:23,100
forever. 
It's not, it's not, it's not 

1603
01:24:23,100 --> 01:24:26,100
like Sean Payton left and they 
hired a brand new staff. 

1604
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:29,500
Everyone just moved up. 
One rung, Sean Payton left in, 

1605
01:24:29,500 --> 01:24:31,500
everyone got a promotion, that's
all. 

1606
01:24:31,500 --> 01:24:33,800
It's not. 
It's not a case of Hill. 

1607
01:24:38,700 --> 01:24:41,800
Take midseason, midseason trade,
Russell Wilson's, not working 

1608
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:44,000
out, Sean, Payton trades. 
His seventh round pick for Taste

1609
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:45,700
of milk. 
Who says, no. 

1610
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,300
It's pretty good. 
And the thing is, you don't 

1611
01:24:51,300 --> 01:24:54,100
even, you don't have to make 
this case anymore because it's, 

1612
01:24:54,100 --> 01:24:56,800
you don't need it. 
But like, the out of him 

1613
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,400
starting quarterback games at 
quarterback is still in. 

1614
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:02,400
It requires multiple injuries. 
Yes, but team, multiple 

1615
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:04,800
quarterbacks on, teens, get 
injured every year. 

1616
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:08,700
Like, it's not impossible that 
we get two weeks. 15 through 17 

1617
01:25:08,700 --> 01:25:11,000
and taysom Hill, starting a game
of quarterback, it straight up, 

1618
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:14,000
it's not likely, but that's 
that's in the range of outcomes 

1619
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,200
to. 
So it's just yeah, there's a lot

1620
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:21,800
of possible, it is possible. 
Yeah, and if that happens like 

1621
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,700
you, you will need to have taste
of milk. 

1622
01:25:25,100 --> 01:25:30,900
Like you'll just need to have 
him if taysom Hill scores, 19 

1623
01:25:30,900 --> 01:25:34,400
points and week 17, what do you 
think the odds are of him being 

1624
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,500
on the winning team? 
Like pretty fucking high? 

1625
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:39,400
Pretty high. 
Although, it depends a little 

1626
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:42,400
bit how now, but, I mean, he's 
such a late round pick. 

1627
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:45,100
I'll probably be decently owned 
in the final. 

1628
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,800
Yeah, this just by pure 
randomness. 

1629
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:51,400
I don't know why I'm still 
triggered triggered by the chat 

1630
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,200
here. 
But guys, like taysom Hill isn't

1631
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:54,700
also is not taking Snaps at 
running. 

1632
01:25:54,700 --> 01:25:56,500
He's not in a truck. 
I didn't ignore it. 

1633
01:25:56,500 --> 01:25:57,500
I didn't ignore it. 
Yeah. 

1634
01:25:57,500 --> 01:26:00,900
And we're not ignoring on rookie
and Jamaal Williams, you know, 

1635
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:05,000
whatever people people watch, 
Jamal Williams score, 15 1 yard,

1636
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:08,500
touchdowns last season, and lost
their minds like lost their like

1637
01:26:08,500 --> 01:26:10,600
Jamal Williams. 
Is that like this is Evan, 

1638
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:13,400
syllabus fault it, seven Silva's
fault for making that bet on 

1639
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,600
Jamal Williams to lead the NFL 
and touchdowns and getting 

1640
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:19,400
everyone to sweat along with it 
like Jamaal Williams is fine. 

1641
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:22,600
He's a perfectly, cromie alert 
running back, but they're not, 

1642
01:26:22,700 --> 01:26:25,500
they're not throwing out the 
taste of he'll plant because 

1643
01:26:25,500 --> 01:26:28,000
Jamal Williams is on the roster.
Exactly. 

1644
01:26:28,100 --> 01:26:30,300
They have their little taste of 
he'll thing and they clearly 

1645
01:26:30,300 --> 01:26:32,800
like doing it like the Andre 
Miller and Jim always are not 

1646
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:36,100
changing that if Camaro was was 
there for the full season but 

1647
01:26:36,100 --> 01:26:39,100
like okay now I'd be a little 
bit more persuaded. 

1648
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:42,800
But yeah, by the way, I'm gonna 
sew a texted me last night 

1649
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,600
saying that the ship that got 
damn ship, Jason's Chasers have 

1650
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:52,000
ruined this Again, we gotta get 
Silvan the show and just show 

1651
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:55,000
him some of these like wide 
receiver atp's and just getting 

1652
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,700
to talk about it. 
See if we can get his camera 

1653
01:26:58,700 --> 01:27:05,000
turned on first, all right, 
let's let's ride out talking 

1654
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:11,200
through some of the team stuff. 
Not huge movement here but again

1655
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,500
look at the Double Stack average
atp's. 

1656
01:27:13,500 --> 01:27:15,800
I think again the thing that 
stands out to me is like these 

1657
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:19,100
quarterback. 
There's a lot of and the u.s. 

1658
01:27:19,100 --> 01:27:22,900
quarterback situations that like
David was mentioning you look at

1659
01:27:22,900 --> 01:27:26,000
the wide receivers sort of the 
fifth sixth round range. 

1660
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:29,400
Even fourth round It's just 
tough because yeah you take 

1661
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:32,700
Terry McLaren and you don't feel
good about picking a 

1662
01:27:32,700 --> 01:27:35,300
quarterback, you know, you take 
Chris Godwin, you don't feel 

1663
01:27:35,300 --> 01:27:37,300
good about taking a quarterback 
and there's just a lot of those 

1664
01:27:37,300 --> 01:27:40,800
teams, Tennessee, Tampa Bay, 
Washington Atlanta, you Throne 

1665
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:42,300
of England and there if you 
want. 

1666
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:45,700
San Francisco is certainly in 
that mix of Uncertain 

1667
01:27:45,700 --> 01:27:48,000
quarterback situation. 
So, yeah. 

1668
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:51,800
That's kind of my take away is 
that I want to not be so worried

1669
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,600
about those teams and just stack
them up without the quarterbacks

1670
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:56,600
like that as mentioned. 
Because I think their prices are

1671
01:27:56,600 --> 01:28:00,100
probably like a little Pressed 
as a result of that. 

1672
01:28:02,100 --> 01:28:04,600
But yeah, I do. 
I guess what I would say is like

1673
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,900
for me, I these teams aren't all
in the same bucket. 

1674
01:28:07,900 --> 01:28:11,300
Like I think Tampa Bay is going 
to be a train wreck. 

1675
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:13,900
I don't think they have any 
interest in being good. 

1676
01:28:14,100 --> 01:28:17,700
I think that if maybe Godwin or 
Evans, you know, could get 

1677
01:28:17,700 --> 01:28:20,900
traded. 
That's like your best out for 

1678
01:28:20,900 --> 01:28:23,000
them having a good season. 
I just think it's gonna be 

1679
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:26,100
really gross Davis. 
You can push back on this 

1680
01:28:26,100 --> 01:28:27,600
because I'm slandering the hell 
out of bed. 

1681
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:31,400
ERM a field right now, but my 
like, when I look at Washington 

1682
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,500
D, then what they were last 
year, they were fucking shit. 

1683
01:28:33,500 --> 01:28:37,800
A worse way. 
Worse Baker was so bad last year

1684
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:41,800
at that, I honestly think would 
be disgusting, but the 

1685
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:43,900
Washington. 
There's two outs, two, good 

1686
01:28:43,900 --> 01:28:46,100
quarterback play there and you 
don't have to predict it. 

1687
01:28:46,100 --> 01:28:48,300
You just need the quote, good 
quarterback play for drafting 

1688
01:28:48,300 --> 01:28:52,300
Datsun and McLaren. 
I like both San Francisco. 

1689
01:28:52,300 --> 01:28:54,700
I mean we've got two and a half 
outside. 

1690
01:28:54,700 --> 01:28:58,800
I don't think Donald counts as a
full-out but like there's maybe 

1691
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:01,300
a little half extra bonus there.
You can see cats. 

1692
01:29:01,500 --> 01:29:02,700
All right. 
So then three outs to good 

1693
01:29:02,700 --> 01:29:06,400
quarterback play. 
And I mean those guys, I mean if

1694
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:07,600
you're getting any kind of 
discount because the 

1695
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:09,400
quarterbacks uncertain, like 
hell yeah. 

1696
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,800
But yeah, I'm kind of more like,
which of these offenses do I 

1697
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:17,700
think can be pretty good. 
Even if I can't predict who the 

1698
01:29:17,700 --> 01:29:21,200
quarterback is going to be in 
every single week, Yeah, I think

1699
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:24,800
San Francisco's probably the 
best argument for that, where 

1700
01:29:25,300 --> 01:29:27,500
the market still view. 
Like, look at the Super Bowl 

1701
01:29:27,500 --> 01:29:31,100
odds, San Francisco, I think 
their fourth and Super Bowl ads 

1702
01:29:31,100 --> 01:29:33,700
behind just the Eagles bills 
Chiefs right now. 

1703
01:29:33,700 --> 01:29:37,600
So unless the markets wrong like
they're gonna be good regardless

1704
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:41,100
of who's playing quarterback. 
I mean I wouldn't say what that 

1705
01:29:41,100 --> 01:29:43,300
much certainty, but I think 
they're very likely to be good 

1706
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:44,600
regardless of who's playing 
quarterback. 

1707
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:50,900
So you're going to want some of 
those pieces on San Co and yeah 

1708
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:53,700
maybe maybe just wait till I 
think we'll have more certainty 

1709
01:29:53,700 --> 01:29:56,200
at some point on the quarterback
situation you can wait before 

1710
01:29:56,200 --> 01:30:00,000
you take your guesses at 
quarterback, there may be the 

1711
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,500
one exception that is like if 
Lance is named the starter and 

1712
01:30:03,500 --> 01:30:05,700
he's like they have confidence 
in him throughout the whole 

1713
01:30:05,700 --> 01:30:08,800
season he would shoot way up. 
So like maybe there's some 

1714
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:12,200
argument to getting some Lance 
now but I'm not really, I'm not.

1715
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:13,300
Yeah. 
What do you think about that? 

1716
01:30:13,300 --> 01:30:17,700
This is actually the the one 
time where I think Lance might 

1717
01:30:17,700 --> 01:30:19,900
make sense. 
Now, look, I haven't been in on 

1718
01:30:19,900 --> 01:30:23,300
Lance but if the 18th round 
price like there is a payoff. 

1719
01:30:23,300 --> 01:30:26,900
Now it's still thin though for 
him to deliver on it but it 

1720
01:30:26,900 --> 01:30:28,700
could but he could. 
What what? 

1721
01:30:28,700 --> 01:30:33,800
Okay what would Lance is ATP be 
if tomorrow. 

1722
01:30:34,700 --> 01:30:37,800
Brock Purdy says, I have an 
infection in my surgery. 

1723
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:39,900
I have to have another surgery 
to take care of it. 

1724
01:30:39,900 --> 01:30:42,200
They got to do whatever they got
to clean it out. 

1725
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:44,600
I'm not going to be back until 
2024. 

1726
01:30:44,700 --> 01:30:48,900
What is Lance's ATP? 
I still think like 120 like I 

1727
01:30:48,900 --> 01:30:50,600
don't think he's gonna say. 
Can we need him? 

1728
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:53,700
Can we meet him to Anthony 
Richardson price or not? 

1729
01:30:53,700 --> 01:30:57,200
I don't think we can't anymore. 
I think he's like capped it like

1730
01:30:57,200 --> 01:31:00,300
one like the Gino range honestly
like I kind of don't see him 

1731
01:31:00,300 --> 01:31:03,300
getting ahead of I'm not saying 
that's my personal ranking, I'm 

1732
01:31:03,300 --> 01:31:06,800
saying like what I think the 
market would do and that's yeah 

1733
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:09,400
I think I think he would be 
treated somewhat similarly to 

1734
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:12,500
Fields last year but then 
ultimately go ahead of where 

1735
01:31:12,500 --> 01:31:16,000
Fields went last year because 
the people just bet on the 

1736
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:19,700
rushing. 
So, Yeah, I don't think you 

1737
01:31:19,708 --> 01:31:22,200
would go ahead of Richardson, 
but I think he would probably 

1738
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:24,100
end up in the 90 in the high 
90s. 

1739
01:31:25,100 --> 01:31:27,300
The thing is like, I feel like I
almost have to tell a story 

1740
01:31:27,300 --> 01:31:32,000
where like somehow Donald gets 
traded and Purdy's like arm 

1741
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,400
falls off because like, I think 
that darn old. 

1742
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:36,800
You get that happen. 
Then I think he's like going. 

1743
01:31:36,900 --> 01:31:38,000
Where? 
Richardson's going. 

1744
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:41,200
Yeah, but I'm saying, 
Richardson's like 86 now. 

1745
01:31:41,500 --> 01:31:45,000
So, like I don't yeah I agree. 
Lance would be like 99 or 

1746
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:46,500
something. 
Yeah, yeah but I'm saying if 

1747
01:31:46,500 --> 01:31:49,200
only one of those things happen,
I don't like Like I think you 

1748
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,300
need both those quarterbacks to 
get out of the way for people to

1749
01:31:51,300 --> 01:31:53,700
have confidence and Lance as a 
top, 100 pick. 

1750
01:31:53,700 --> 01:31:57,700
I think people if her had 
confidence in him as a top 100 

1751
01:31:57,700 --> 01:32:00,000
pick like two months ago for 
some fucking reason. 

1752
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:03,400
Yeah but we bullied we've 
bullied them since then they're 

1753
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:04,700
not. 
They're not gonna be doing that 

1754
01:32:04,700 --> 01:32:06,700
anymore. 
I believe they're coming right 

1755
01:32:06,700 --> 01:32:11,400
back, right back. 
If pretty if there was no Purdy.

1756
01:32:12,300 --> 01:32:14,500
He's not he's not available 20 
24. 

1757
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:16,200
I don't think Sam. 
Don't know this keeping much of 

1758
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:21,000
a cap on his ATP. 
Which makes him I think it puts 

1759
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,500
him back in the, you know, in 
the conversation. 

1760
01:32:23,500 --> 01:32:24,800
A little is an eighteenth round 
her. 

1761
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:27,600
But I guess we're both setting 
and take it easy but he's not 

1762
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:29,400
going to like, okay, maybe 
you're right, that he shoots up 

1763
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:33,000
to like a hot pink conjurer pick
90, but like sure. 

1764
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:35,000
Okay, that's great. 
If you took a bunch of Lansing 

1765
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:39,100
shoots up till then, but like 
it's not that amazing, I guess. 

1766
01:32:39,100 --> 01:32:41,000
Is what I'm saying is like, it 
feels to me. 

1767
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,000
It still feels like more. 
The payoff is not quite worth 

1768
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:45,400
the risks. 
I think it's pretty. 

1769
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:47,800
I don't know, we've gotten 
positive news on pretty so far. 

1770
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:50,400
I may You think Donald's a 
bigger Factor than you do? 

1771
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,000
Pat but I don't know. 
I don't think the payoffs worth 

1772
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:57,300
like the 50 jumping ATP is worth
the risk of dead roster spot, 

1773
01:32:57,300 --> 01:33:01,400
one issue with with it is that 
it's a three quarterback built. 

1774
01:33:01,900 --> 01:33:06,100
And so, yeah, you got a guy 
who's going maybe as like, a 

1775
01:33:06,300 --> 01:33:11,400
ninth round pick or whatever 
now, but he's, but you wasted 

1776
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:13,100
probably attempt round pick on a
quarterback. 

1777
01:33:13,100 --> 01:33:15,600
You don't need anymore because 
you've got Lance at this great 

1778
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:17,700
price. 
So like, you know what I mean, 

1779
01:33:17,700 --> 01:33:20,200
like your payoff. 
His big even as it seems because

1780
01:33:21,300 --> 01:33:23,900
you still are the three 
quarterback building. 

1781
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:26,500
Like that could have been an 
awesome running back. 

1782
01:33:26,500 --> 01:33:29,300
Pick that you don't get to swap 
out now. 

1783
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:37,100
Yeah, yeah makes sense. 
All right, last couple questions

1784
01:33:37,100 --> 01:33:42,000
here. 
Davis, do you have a stack here 

1785
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:46,400
that you like, that's perhaps 
undervalued towards the the far 

1786
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:50,700
right side of the chart. 
Denver Denver. 

1787
01:33:50,700 --> 01:33:53,600
Denver to me is like the one 
team where I'm like, yeah, I can

1788
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:56,200
see Russell Wilson returning to 
being the quarterback 8 with 

1789
01:33:56,200 --> 01:34:02,200
competent head-coaching, Judy, 
Sutton, Mims, dulcich perine, 

1790
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:06,200
they're all the whole offense is
priced. 

1791
01:34:06,300 --> 01:34:10,400
Other than Judy Judy. 
You could say is like, I mean, 

1792
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:14,100
what he had 950 yards and six 
touchdowns last year, like he 

1793
01:34:14,100 --> 01:34:18,700
was still kind of decent Sutton 
really fell off, but You could, 

1794
01:34:18,700 --> 01:34:21,100
you could they the case is 
pretty simple, which is just 

1795
01:34:21,700 --> 01:34:24,300
hack. 
It is basically Urban Meyer, you

1796
01:34:24,300 --> 01:34:26,900
know, he's Michael Scott, he 
just everything around him 

1797
01:34:26,900 --> 01:34:30,400
grinds to a halt, because he was
so bad at his job. 

1798
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:32,400
Sean. 
Payton comes in figures. 

1799
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:35,100
It out is like Russ. 
I know you can still do this, 

1800
01:34:35,100 --> 01:34:39,700
yada yada and there the Seahawks
again basically, right? 

1801
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:41,600
But you can, you can see it. 
I'm not saying it's the most 

1802
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:43,700
likely scenario, so you can see 
it. 

1803
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:46,900
And I actually very similar to 
have the Seahawks ended up being

1804
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,300
all these legal Last year 
because everyone was so cheap 

1805
01:34:49,300 --> 01:34:50,800
because everyone was so 
convinced they were going to be 

1806
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:55,800
terrible and sort of unlike you 
know the Texans I don't think of

1807
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:58,600
any path to being a top ten 
offense, the Panthers, no path, 

1808
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:02,100
Titans no path, Buccaneers no 
path, Washington, no path, 

1809
01:35:02,300 --> 01:35:04,100
right? 
I actually think you can see the

1810
01:35:04,100 --> 01:35:07,200
path right for Denver, like the 
offensive line is pretty good. 

1811
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:08,900
They have, they have a lot of 
good offensive. 

1812
01:35:08,900 --> 01:35:11,400
Lineman Sean. 
Payton is a very good coach who 

1813
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:15,900
got really good results out of 
not only like Peak Drew Brees 

1814
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:19,400
but he also Sean Payton. 
Really well when Breeze, totally

1815
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:21,800
lost his fastball. 
They were still good on offense.

1816
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:23,800
When Breeze, really, could 
barely still play. 

1817
01:35:24,500 --> 01:35:27,400
What's rust is buying on the 
Playbook stuff that's going to 

1818
01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:30,500
matter so much because, like 
breeze and Peyton were like, you

1819
01:35:30,500 --> 01:35:33,900
know, on the same exact patient.
Also, I'm Peyton comes in and 

1820
01:35:33,900 --> 01:35:36,500
says rescue fucking embarrassed 
yourself last year. 

1821
01:35:36,500 --> 01:35:39,600
You were embarrassing. 
You you made this whole big 

1822
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:41,900
deal. 
You got your own office. 

1823
01:35:42,100 --> 01:35:45,200
We did everything you wanted. 
We and you were embarrassing. 

1824
01:35:45,300 --> 01:35:48,300
You embarrassed yourself in 
front of everyone and I Save 

1825
01:35:48,300 --> 01:35:51,400
you. 
If you buy into me I can bring 

1826
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:53,700
you what you want. 
That's that's what and I don't 

1827
01:35:53,700 --> 01:35:55,000
know. 
For us will buy it. 

1828
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,800
I don't know if he is humble 
enough to do that, but that's 

1829
01:35:57,800 --> 01:35:59,700
the cell that seems really 
grounded. 

1830
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:07,300
Yeah, I'm gonna little worried 
great. 

1831
01:36:07,300 --> 01:36:13,500
That was so good. 
I'm a little worried that he was

1832
01:36:13,500 --> 01:36:27,400
calling audibles from Seattle. 
I'm like a little hesitant to go

1833
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:30,100
with the Rust part of it, but 
I'm interested in the Denver 

1834
01:36:30,100 --> 01:36:32,100
stuff. 
Like I kind of like this is one 

1835
01:36:32,100 --> 01:36:35,000
where I like doing Herbert and 
bring in Denver stuff back. 

1836
01:36:35,300 --> 01:36:38,800
And I also like stacking up the 
Chargers Broncos game without 

1837
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:41,500
either quarterback, especially, 
I have an elite quarterback and 

1838
01:36:41,500 --> 01:36:45,200
I'm like, like, okay, we're also
like maybe you have a good year,

1839
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:47,500
but I don't think you're passing
Alan, you know, I'd rather have 

1840
01:36:47,500 --> 01:36:51,300
Alan. 
In week 17 so or Mahomes or 

1841
01:36:51,300 --> 01:36:55,400
Hertz or Lamar whatever. 
So I've been that's how I've 

1842
01:36:55,400 --> 01:37:00,200
been hesitant to take Ross but I
but I think if Russ has a good 

1843
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:02,000
year he got up a very good year 
so I do. 

1844
01:37:02,900 --> 01:37:05,800
Yeah I don't mind it at all. 
I like the bed. 

1845
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:08,700
It does feel a little like you 
don't need that much. 

1846
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:11,200
The bed is pretty simple. 
It's just like Russ isn't 

1847
01:37:11,300 --> 01:37:14,000
horrible anymore. 
Like, you know, his whole 

1848
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:15,700
career. 
He's been pretty good. 

1849
01:37:15,700 --> 01:37:18,200
They simplify the Playbook and I
think this is a little 

1850
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:19,600
anecdotal. 
I don't have the numbers to back

1851
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:22,500
it up, but Russ, did get a 
little bit better towards the 

1852
01:37:22,508 --> 01:37:24,200
end of the last year. 
I don't think I'm making that up

1853
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:26,600
like week 17. 
He had a pretty it again. 

1854
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:30,500
You had a good game, no one, no 
one had him who was still alive,

1855
01:37:30,500 --> 01:37:34,800
but he had a pretty good game. 
So I like the Denver stuff. 

1856
01:37:36,300 --> 01:37:37,700
Yeah. 
Pat. 

1857
01:37:37,700 --> 01:37:41,000
Any teams you wanna make a case 
for here and I've talked through

1858
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:45,800
a lot but I think I kind of 
stuck mine in I guess I'd say 

1859
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:49,500
Green Bay is kind of interesting
where like I think Jordan log 

1860
01:37:49,500 --> 01:37:52,900
gives you a little bit of 
rushing upside. 

1861
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:57,400
Nothing crazy. 
But like just a maybe a touch 

1862
01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:59,000
certainly more than like Kenny 
Pickett. 

1863
01:38:00,100 --> 01:38:02,700
Yeah and that's their slightly 
cheaper than the sealer stack 

1864
01:38:02,900 --> 01:38:07,000
and Can get, I think, Jaden read
is really nice attack on 

1865
01:38:07,500 --> 01:38:09,900
Christian Watson. 
I've already taken him a decent 

1866
01:38:09,900 --> 01:38:12,400
amount. 
You know, like in that spot on 

1867
01:38:12,407 --> 01:38:16,700
breaking ties towards him, just 
for the weekly upside and then 

1868
01:38:17,300 --> 01:38:19,000
part of it too. 
Is like I know I can get Jordan,

1869
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:21,300
lovely. 
If I've gone with an elite 

1870
01:38:21,300 --> 01:38:24,000
quarterback love is pretty 
interesting. 

1871
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:27,600
As like you know actually maybe 
has a little bit of a weekly 

1872
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,400
stealing and if even if not even
if you stinks he's going to 

1873
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:32,500
start all year. 
So I got the job security thing.

1874
01:38:32,500 --> 01:38:38,100
Locked up And then, yeah, I like
Romeo Dobbs is like, fine, you 

1875
01:38:38,100 --> 01:38:40,800
know, he strikes me as slightly 
overpriced, but he will run 

1876
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:44,100
routes and Jane and read will 
also run routes. 

1877
01:38:44,100 --> 01:38:46,800
So they've talked up as 
returning, ability everything, 

1878
01:38:48,300 --> 01:38:52,000
why is the market so certain 
that Jaden Reid is going to be 

1879
01:38:52,300 --> 01:38:54,700
jobs out for those. 
Well, they're actually not Dobbs

1880
01:38:54,700 --> 01:38:57,700
is like they're not 6:30 picks 
more expensive or something like

1881
01:38:57,700 --> 01:38:59,900
that. 
But doesn't that doesn't that 

1882
01:38:59,900 --> 01:39:02,200
indicate sort of what we were 
just talking about with Keenan 

1883
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:05,000
Allen like the Rookie comes on 
at the end of the year type 

1884
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:09,700
thing. 
Yeah I mean I think I if the 

1885
01:39:09,700 --> 01:39:12,500
question is does read b dubs 
out? 

1886
01:39:12,500 --> 01:39:15,300
I think he's the favorite to 
beat dubstep event of the year. 

1887
01:39:15,300 --> 01:39:19,300
I mean it's they picked him. 
What in the early second round 

1888
01:39:19,300 --> 01:39:21,200
mid second. 
Round Dobbs is the fourth round.

1889
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:25,100
Pick Dobbs was fine last year 
but to me his rookie year didn't

1890
01:39:25,100 --> 01:39:27,900
profile is something where he's 
going to stop a second round 

1891
01:39:27,900 --> 01:39:29,700
rookie from getting on the 
field. 

1892
01:39:30,300 --> 01:39:33,900
I just think dubs town is like 
okay and the Packers Has told us

1893
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,300
they think reads Talent is 
better than doubles but where 

1894
01:39:36,300 --> 01:39:40,100
they drafted him? 
So I think I just didn't 

1895
01:39:40,100 --> 01:39:43,200
favorite four more outs. 
So if I can give the bull case 

1896
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:48,900
for Dobbs who I do, like it's 
week three Packers already, have

1897
01:39:48,900 --> 01:39:52,400
a whole infirmary room full of 
injured, wide receivers, they're

1898
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:54,800
playing against Tampa Bay. 
Who at the time we thought was 

1899
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:58,000
good. 
The Packers opened their Drive, 

1900
01:39:58,100 --> 01:40:01,400
the scripted Drive. 
They did Dobbs got four Targets 

1901
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:04,400
on the opening drive and caps. 
Off with a touchdown. 

1902
01:40:04,500 --> 01:40:08,100
And I just remember thinking 
like Rogers hates every young 

1903
01:40:08,100 --> 01:40:10,100
guy he's ever played with. 
Like he's good. 

1904
01:40:10,100 --> 01:40:12,100
There's got to just be something
impressive. 

1905
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:14,700
He's doing that and he hadn't 
yet another good game the next 

1906
01:40:14,700 --> 01:40:16,000
week. 
And they basically we never 

1907
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:18,300
heard from him again because 
Christian Watson started to 

1908
01:40:18,300 --> 01:40:21,100
break out and they started doing
more to tight end stuff. 

1909
01:40:21,500 --> 01:40:25,400
But I just at that moment of 
being like, I don't it just and 

1910
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:27,700
like, obviously this is like a 
weird thing where like when you 

1911
01:40:27,700 --> 01:40:29,200
watch the games, you can 
remember stuff. 

1912
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:31,500
That's actually extraneous and 
doesn't matter at all. 

1913
01:40:31,700 --> 01:40:34,600
But I just remember being like 
really Impressed by that and I 

1914
01:40:35,100 --> 01:40:37,200
don't know II. 
Think I think he's good. 

1915
01:40:37,300 --> 01:40:39,700
I just I just think he like, 
kind of was just impressive to 

1916
01:40:39,700 --> 01:40:42,800
me watching him too. 
I struggle with the day three 

1917
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:47,200
guys because like it's such a 
high bar to clear for them to 

1918
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:50,900
really become anything. 
So we're like Dobbs as a day, 

1919
01:40:50,900 --> 01:40:54,100
three pick, he's already a hit 
like if he basically does 

1920
01:40:54,100 --> 01:40:55,900
nothing for the rest of his 
career. 

1921
01:40:55,900 --> 01:40:59,100
But he likes starts feel like 
stays in the fantasy football 

1922
01:40:59,100 --> 01:41:02,300
player pool for like another 
season after this. 

1923
01:41:02,300 --> 01:41:07,000
He's like a shit like That's how
little we usually expect. 

1924
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:10,300
And the fact that they then 
drafted they have a they have 

1925
01:41:10,300 --> 01:41:13,500
two other second round picks 
that he's competing with at the 

1926
01:41:13,508 --> 01:41:16,700
wide receiver position. 
I just like kind of the base 

1927
01:41:16,700 --> 01:41:19,900
rate argument against Dobbs just
doesn't feel it just doesn't 

1928
01:41:19,900 --> 01:41:23,200
feel very good to me. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1929
01:41:25,500 --> 01:41:28,400
Yeah, he thought I mean, so the 
numbers I look at you look at 

1930
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:31,500
yards for out, Ron yards for 
game, targets, around, that type

1931
01:41:31,500 --> 01:41:34,300
of stuff. 
If you filter for all rookies, 

1932
01:41:34,300 --> 01:41:37,400
that have like at least 200 
routes Dobbs profiles is like a 

1933
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:42,900
70th 75th percentile rookie 
season, which is, which is fine,

1934
01:41:42,900 --> 01:41:45,600
right? 
But it's not, it's not great. 

1935
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:48,800
It's clearly behind guys like 
Christian Watson. 

1936
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:50,900
Wilson London, Allah, they 
obviously like, no. 

1937
01:41:50,900 --> 01:41:53,300
No one's comparing them dollops 
those guys anyways. 

1938
01:41:53,300 --> 01:41:56,300
But yeah, to me, It's just I 
think I'm with Pat that like 

1939
01:41:56,300 --> 01:41:59,900
it's a somewhat promising rookie
year but I'm just concerned that

1940
01:41:59,900 --> 01:42:02,700
the immediately you know took 
another water super in the 

1941
01:42:02,700 --> 01:42:06,000
second, round to the Green Bay 
Point. 

1942
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:09,200
One thing I wanted to add on as 
I think Musgrave is actually an 

1943
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:11,800
interesting 18th rounds tight 
end. 

1944
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:15,800
If you have a Green Bay stack, 
they took him pick 42 overall, 

1945
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:18,800
he's not getting drafted much. 
There's no tight ends on that 

1946
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:20,700
roster. 
They basically took two rookies.

1947
01:42:20,700 --> 01:42:24,200
Tyler craft, I think talking 
crap Tucker, that's what 

1948
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:26,000
concerns me. 
Is that they took the 

1949
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:28,100
doubled-up, they took two bites 
of the Apple. 

1950
01:42:28,100 --> 01:42:30,200
I think. 
That's yeah, that's fair. 

1951
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:33,800
But if you look at their roster 
like it's literally like there's

1952
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:36,700
nothing, there's some like 
passing specialist guys. 

1953
01:42:36,700 --> 01:42:38,900
Like I think the guard, the 
guara still there. 

1954
01:42:39,100 --> 01:42:40,800
Yeah. 
Like it's gonna be one of those 

1955
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:43,700
two guys. 
And yeah, I do 18th. 

1956
01:42:43,700 --> 01:42:45,200
Round side ends. 
You're not getting guys with 

1957
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:47,800
like completely locked and roll.
He's not my favorite 18th side 

1958
01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:50,300
and in a vacuum under saying, 
like, in Jordan love Stacks. 

1959
01:42:50,300 --> 01:42:53,100
I think it's a pretty 
interesting way to, you know, 

1960
01:42:53,100 --> 01:42:55,600
fill out your onesie positions. 
For for pretty cheap. 

1961
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:57,500
So I'll add that on for Green 
Bay. 

1962
01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:00,600
Yeah. 
I think both guys are kind of on

1963
01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:03,400
my watch list right now because 
they when they talked about 

1964
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:07,200
drafting them, they were like 
they both are in line, regular 

1965
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:09,100
tight ends they weren't like 
Musgraves going to be in the 

1966
01:43:09,100 --> 01:43:10,800
slot like Tucker is going to be 
in line. 

1967
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:13,300
They're like they're essentially
like duplicates. 

1968
01:43:13,300 --> 01:43:17,200
Like we we want to tight end so 
we drafted to so I think like, 

1969
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:21,000
my guess is that we start to 
hear from the Beats like 

1970
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:24,600
Musgraves firmly ahead or 
Tucker's, firmly ahead. 

1971
01:43:24,700 --> 01:43:29,800
And then I'm taking I'm taking 
that guy but I don't want that. 

1972
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:31,500
I don't want to draft the wrong 
tight end there. 

1973
01:43:31,500 --> 01:43:34,500
I think I'm I'm just playing a 
little more conservatively than 

1974
01:43:34,500 --> 01:43:35,700
you are maybe. 
Yeah, that's fair. 

1975
01:43:35,700 --> 01:43:38,100
Maybe I should wait, I've just a
couple I think I've taken them 

1976
01:43:38,100 --> 01:43:39,900
once in a love stack, but I see 
your point. 

1977
01:43:39,900 --> 01:43:42,700
And there's certainly risk 
certainly rest there. 

1978
01:43:42,700 --> 01:43:44,200
I don't have to be guessing on 
that now. 

1979
01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:46,400
I could probably, I could 
probably wait a little bit and 

1980
01:43:46,500 --> 01:43:51,000
have more confidence. 
Cool. 

1981
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:57,300
Let's Enough not much to talk 
about another team atp's, 

1982
01:43:58,100 --> 01:43:59,600
positional stuff I'll hit on 
quickly. 

1983
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:03,300
We have this discussion last 
week but the same kind of story 

1984
01:44:03,300 --> 01:44:06,900
holds true where if you wanna, 
if you kind of want to look at 

1985
01:44:06,900 --> 01:44:10,600
last year's atp's and compare 
them to this year, the basic 

1986
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:15,300
story is that quarterbacks 
quarterback ones are much more 

1987
01:44:15,300 --> 01:44:16,700
expensive than they were last 
year. 

1988
01:44:17,300 --> 01:44:21,100
They're going at on average, 
round pick 55 this year last 

1989
01:44:21,100 --> 01:44:24,100
year was like pick 65. 
So the top Of quarterbacks are 

1990
01:44:24,100 --> 01:44:26,500
like a full round more expensive
than last year. 

1991
01:44:26,900 --> 01:44:29,400
The running back ones, are 
cheaper, the running back to use

1992
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:33,000
are cheaper and the wide 
receiver ones are more 

1993
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:35,700
expensive. 
So, I think this is drafters 

1994
01:44:35,700 --> 01:44:39,200
reacting to both, you know, 
early, heavy wide receiver built

1995
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:43,800
a good Advanced rates last year.
Elite cubies have good Advanced 

1996
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:46,000
to its last year. 
So drafters are pushing those, 

1997
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:49,700
two groups up and they're 
pushing down, sort of running 

1998
01:44:49,700 --> 01:44:56,000
backs on the other side tight 
ends are Close to the cost they 

1999
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,000
were last year. 
I think, you know, it depends 

2000
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:00,900
how you look at it. 
Even had a good chart on this 

2001
01:45:00,900 --> 01:45:02,300
with. 
Once you take out, he'll see, 

2002
01:45:02,300 --> 01:45:04,400
everyone's falling. 
Exactly. 

2003
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:07,800
Yeah, I definitely recommend 
looking at Hayden started as a 

2004
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:10,800
little bit more granularity than
this does. 

2005
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:18,400
But yeah, unless anyone wants to
say something here, we might as 

2006
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:22,600
well get into our favorite ATP 
values. 

2007
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:28,100
Anybody have one prepped and 
ready to go. 

2008
01:45:28,100 --> 01:45:29,800
Pat. 
You want to give your favorite 

2009
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:31,500
atpchar? 
You sure. 

2010
01:45:31,500 --> 01:45:35,000
So we talk, Denver, I'll go 
Marvin. 

2011
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:38,900
Mims, who I think there's going 
to be a drum beat, the drum 

2012
01:45:38,900 --> 01:45:42,600
beats already, starting Cecil a 
me had a report out with saying.

2013
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:49,200
He thinks that Marvin's could be
the best best Blancas her and I 

2014
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:53,300
think we got a this this is, 
this is, this is key. 

2015
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:55,500
A Handler. 
I think we need to, we need the 

2016
01:45:55,500 --> 01:45:59,600
vet, we need to back off. 
Hey, I'm playing a game where I 

2017
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:01,600
want closing line value. 
And I think we're going to get 

2018
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:03,200
closing line value with Marvin 
Mims. 

2019
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:06,400
I mean, I actually don't think 
he's caged a Handler like his. 

2020
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:10,200
The thing about him is that he, 
yeah, he's an outside under 

2021
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:16,500
sized deep threat but like there
aren't there, like KJ Handler 

2022
01:46:16,700 --> 01:46:18,600
yards after the catch, also, 
sort of similar to kids 

2023
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:21,600
anywhere, but like, he's 
supposed to be a guy who gets 

2024
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:23,600
open, you know? 
Like that's that's the big 

2025
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:25,300
thing. 
That's what Peyton talked about.

2026
01:46:25,300 --> 01:46:29,600
Separating him from the pack of 
these other wide receivers in 

2027
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:32,200
the class. 
He was a second-round pick. 

2028
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:34,800
They traded up for him Sean 
Payton's hand-picked wide 

2029
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:40,000
receiver for this first year. 
They're clearly not like in love

2030
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:41,800
with the guys already there 
they've already been kind of 

2031
01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:46,700
shopped around so I think that 
Marvin Williams will be a pretty

2032
01:46:46,700 --> 01:46:49,100
big Riser throughout the course 
of the summer. 

2033
01:46:49,100 --> 01:46:52,600
I think I do think you're going 
to hear like he looks good, he's

2034
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:56,200
separating. 
And they have a plan for this 

2035
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:58,000
guy. 
We've already heard that stuff, 

2036
01:46:58,100 --> 01:46:59,600
and I think we're going to keep 
hearing it. 

2037
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:00,800
It's going to keep getting 
louder. 

2038
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:07,500
I mean, his ATP is like 172. 
I mean, I think I think he could

2039
01:47:07,500 --> 01:47:10,600
be significantly higher. 
Like I think it could be like, 

2040
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:14,600
you know, 12 11th 12th round 
pick by the end of this and we 

2041
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:17,400
have to buy well then we have to
buy into either him having the 

2042
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:20,100
ability to out produce Courtland
Sutton or the Denver offense 

2043
01:47:20,100 --> 01:47:23,600
feeding Five skill position 
players. 

2044
01:47:24,300 --> 01:47:27,000
We also, I mean I've heard from,
you know, listen to the rotor 

2045
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:30,700
World podcast and like the, you 
know, the sentiment on Sutton 

2046
01:47:30,700 --> 01:47:33,100
does not appear overly positive 
people. 

2047
01:47:33,100 --> 01:47:36,800
I think he might just be done. 
Yeah, they've been there is a, I

2048
01:47:36,808 --> 01:47:38,700
think something was really good 
at one point in his career. 

2049
01:47:38,700 --> 01:47:41,500
But it's now, what is it like 
your for coming off? 

2050
01:47:41,500 --> 01:47:44,400
The ACL tear like I don't know, 
man, it's not looking great for 

2051
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:46,300
him. 
Yeah, I'm back to what it used 

2052
01:47:46,300 --> 01:47:50,500
to be, which is kind of, and I 
think if you're hearing it's 

2053
01:47:50,500 --> 01:47:54,200
men's Mims from, you know the 
training camp reports like 

2054
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:57,000
Sutton. 
Yeah I'm kind of here's the 

2055
01:47:57,000 --> 01:48:00,700
thing on Denver beat writers I 
don't trust them I don't trust 

2056
01:48:00,700 --> 01:48:03,900
any one of them because they all
got they all got the Alberto 

2057
01:48:03,900 --> 01:48:06,400
dulcet ship. 
So this is your to snake-bitten 

2058
01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:08,100
Alberto. 
Did they did they? 

2059
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:10,700
Yes. 
Do you don't you dare? 

2060
01:48:10,700 --> 01:48:14,600
Don't you dare? 
This is like this because they 

2061
01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:21,800
all been amazing. 
Done everything. 

2062
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:23,300
The coaching staff is one of 
them to do. 

2063
01:48:23,300 --> 01:48:26,100
They did The Joint practice with
the AL boys, and they all were 

2064
01:48:26,100 --> 01:48:29,400
like, Alberto tight end one, 
right? 

2065
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:32,500
And then he plays in the fourth 
quarter, the third preseason 

2066
01:48:32,500 --> 01:48:34,400
game, and then they all 
pretended, the whole time that 

2067
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:38,100
they knew that was happening. 
They all do a man, did it? 

2068
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:44,700
Listen, anyone who watched 
Nathaniel Hackett hug Greg 

2069
01:48:44,700 --> 01:48:46,800
dosage and say, look at that 
hair? 

2070
01:48:48,100 --> 01:48:50,100
Are you worried? 
Are you worried that Sean Payton

2071
01:48:50,100 --> 01:48:53,900
is not going to have the Same 
affinity for dulcich, a zakat, I

2072
01:48:53,900 --> 01:48:57,300
am, I believe he's been a 
follower and I've taken some of 

2073
01:48:57,300 --> 01:48:59,600
them, but, I mean, yeah, I can 
see. 

2074
01:48:59,700 --> 01:49:02,400
I think my, I never loved Craig.
Dulcich. 

2075
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:06,100
I never, I never learned because
now I'm jamming, dulcich, right?

2076
01:49:06,100 --> 01:49:08,900
I never, I never learned, I 
never take the right lesson away

2077
01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:15,100
from that. 
So, one, one final word on memes

2078
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:18,500
like you look at, and this 
applies didn't read to you, but 

2079
01:49:18,700 --> 01:49:22,600
drafters are so like caught on 
The round one round two wide 

2080
01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:25,500
receivers now that like it's 
tough to find Value Mims. 

2081
01:49:25,500 --> 01:49:28,300
And Reid are the guys where if 
you just plotted, the draft 

2082
01:49:28,300 --> 01:49:30,900
Capital verse ATP. 
They are the two guys that 

2083
01:49:30,900 --> 01:49:32,700
really haven't been priced up 
much. 

2084
01:49:32,700 --> 01:49:36,300
And I think, I think people are 
probably going to just Hammer 

2085
01:49:36,300 --> 01:49:42,200
them at some point. 
So we rice is going 129 and I 

2086
01:49:42,200 --> 01:49:45,400
think I don't I literally don't 
think there's a single person. 

2087
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:48,900
The fantasy industry who had 
Rice ranked ahead of mems in 

2088
01:49:48,900 --> 01:49:52,400
their pre-draft ranks and they 
both were second-round picks 

2089
01:49:53,100 --> 01:49:56,800
like one. 
There's a 50 spot Gap in a 

2090
01:49:56,800 --> 01:50:00,000
teepee between these guys like I
just not going to hold, so 

2091
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:02,000
you're saying Russell Wilson is 
better than Patrick mom's. 

2092
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:04,700
Is that the argument I'm saying?
50 spots available discount a 

2093
01:50:04,700 --> 01:50:07,400
hell of a discount to get on a 
guy who also has good draft 

2094
01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:09,600
capital and we think is a better
pure talent. 

2095
01:50:09,700 --> 01:50:10,600
Yeah. 
No, I'm with you. 

2096
01:50:10,700 --> 01:50:12,800
I think I think mems is a pretty
good bet. 

2097
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:15,300
For ATP value Davis hit us with 
years. 

2098
01:50:15,300 --> 01:50:17,900
Who's your favorite favorite? 
EV value on the board right now.

2099
01:50:17,900 --> 01:50:20,200
Pat just did a sexy young 
rookie. 

2100
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:22,200
I'm gonna go. 
I'm gonna Do the exact opposite 

2101
01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:24,600
way. 
Jeff Wilson jr. 

2102
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:27,100
I mean, this is this shit is so 
obvious to Devin. 

2103
01:50:27,100 --> 01:50:30,400
Devin ocean, a is the running 
back. 35? 

2104
01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:32,900
Like, are we like, how certain 
are we? 

2105
01:50:32,900 --> 01:50:36,200
That he even gets like, 100 
touches as a rookie, you know. 

2106
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:39,500
Like I think I think he's like a
splash player, right? 

2107
01:50:39,500 --> 01:50:43,800
He's and and he's a great 
like-for-like replacement for 

2108
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:45,700
most hurt. 
I think that's sort of what they

2109
01:50:45,700 --> 01:50:50,100
see there. 
But come like week, three, Jeff 

2110
01:50:50,100 --> 01:50:53,900
Wilson jr. 
L've carry 63 yards, two catches

2111
01:50:53,900 --> 01:50:56,900
eight yards and a touchdown like
just like pencil that shit in 

2112
01:50:57,200 --> 01:51:00,300
and the more we get closer to 
the season and the more people 

2113
01:51:00,300 --> 01:51:03,400
stop wish casting and the more 
they live in the reality of 

2114
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:06,200
what's actually going to happen 
and Jeff Wilson jr. 

2115
01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:08,900
Is going to go from like running
back, 55 to running back 41. 

2116
01:51:08,900 --> 01:51:12,500
It's just a tale as old as time.
Like it's I'm Leone right now. 

2117
01:51:12,500 --> 01:51:16,200
I'm the guy, I'm the one being 
like, I know, Austin is fun, but

2118
01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:19,000
just be realistic, and it's 
going to be Jeff Wilson jr. 

2119
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:21,000
Like, it just, it is what it is.
Are you taking him? 

2120
01:51:21,100 --> 01:51:23,400
Mr. Know cuz you don't even 
have. 

2121
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:25,800
Okay, both of them. 
I have. 

2122
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:30,000
So at running back I have 26 
percent, Jeff Wilson jr. 

2123
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:33,300
But I have 16% where he most 
hurt because I think I literally

2124
01:51:33,300 --> 01:51:36,200
think ATP. 
Like it's just backwards. 

2125
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:39,100
It's just backwards. 
Like I'm taking the other two 

2126
01:51:39,100 --> 01:51:40,900
guys to I'm taking most dirt and
Wilson. 

2127
01:51:41,300 --> 01:51:44,800
I like, I like, I like ashamed. 
I like a Shane just fine. 

2128
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:48,300
But I don't, I like, I like 
Damien Harris a lot and he goes 

2129
01:51:48,300 --> 01:51:50,300
like 10 picks later. 
Yeah. 

2130
01:51:50,300 --> 01:51:52,600
So yeah. 
Here's to, I mean, we kind of 

2131
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:56,000
learned this like anytime 
there's an offense that projects

2132
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:58,300
to score a ton of points and 
doesn't have like the 

2133
01:51:58,300 --> 01:52:01,300
quarterback goal goal, line 
threat like to as not running in

2134
01:52:01,300 --> 01:52:06,700
touchdowns and their top running
back is going at One 1080p just 

2135
01:52:06,700 --> 01:52:08,900
like Hammer. 
All those guys like we saw that 

2136
01:52:08,900 --> 01:52:12,000
in years past with the Box were 
like both Row Joe and for net, 

2137
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:13,800
which I don't even think they 
were this Jeep, but they were 

2138
01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:17,100
both really cheap one year. 
Like just hammered both of them 

2139
01:52:17,100 --> 01:52:18,400
like, yeah. 
Good off it. 

2140
01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:22,600
So Terry and and Moss, One year.
Yeah, exactly. 

2141
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:25,300
And, and neither was this cheap 
either, but, but Singletary was 

2142
01:52:25,300 --> 01:52:27,300
a massive hit. 
It's just so simple. 

2143
01:52:27,300 --> 01:52:29,300
Like, people are, you know, 
throwing their hands up with 

2144
01:52:29,300 --> 01:52:32,600
uncertainty but like one of 
Wilson moster or a Shane? 

2145
01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:34,200
I think Shannon's price is fine 
too. 

2146
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:37,100
I don't love them as much as 
other two guys, but like one of 

2147
01:52:37,100 --> 01:52:39,800
Wilson are most. 
I think is scoring a good chunk 

2148
01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:43,000
of touchdowns for this team and 
multi-touch down upside this 

2149
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:45,600
late at running back is pretty 
appealing to me. 

2150
01:52:45,700 --> 01:52:49,000
So apparently my rankings are 
pushing everyone to a chain and 

2151
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:50,300
not the other two. 
So all right. 

2152
01:52:50,300 --> 01:52:52,400
I'm gonna I'm gonna Tweak that, 
thank you. 

2153
01:52:53,100 --> 01:52:56,900
But yeah, I don't hate like, I 
don't think any of us hate each 

2154
01:52:56,900 --> 01:53:01,500
and I think I can talk myself 
into him too, but I'll be at, 

2155
01:53:01,500 --> 01:53:03,100
probably do like him. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2156
01:53:03,100 --> 01:53:05,500
Like him. 
But yeah, yeah. 

2157
01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:12,200
All right, all talk about 
someone who's a little higher up

2158
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:15,000
boards. 
Again this game, we're going 

2159
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:18,200
percentage of ADP increase. 
So someone like this could still

2160
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:22,400
be a big value. 
I'm going with Ramon A pic 30. 

2161
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:26,100
I was just listening to Pete's 
best ball breakfast. 

2162
01:53:26,100 --> 01:53:29,500
I think ramond raises highest 
exposure running back at like 

2163
01:53:29,500 --> 01:53:32,200
40% or something. 
I just straight-up. 

2164
01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:36,300
Don't get it with Ramon Dre. 
I sort of had a parody Thread 

2165
01:53:36,300 --> 01:53:39,100
about this over the weekend, but
all the cases against him, I 

2166
01:53:39,108 --> 01:53:42,600
think are just like logical 
fallacy after logical fallacy 

2167
01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:46,000
like, who owned the Patriots, 
backfield is going to steal 

2168
01:53:46,100 --> 01:53:47,700
pass. 
Catching her goal, line work for

2169
01:53:47,700 --> 01:53:50,800
a montre like, you gotta squint,
really hard to tell yourself. 

2170
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:54,700
That story and number two, like 
the Patriots, I don't think 

2171
01:53:54,700 --> 01:53:58,500
projects to be this amazing 
offense but I think with a real 

2172
01:53:58,500 --> 01:54:01,600
offensive coordinator. 
You know we saw this in 2021 

2173
01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:05,300
when Matt Jones had a offensive 
coordinator, this team was top 

2174
01:54:05,300 --> 01:54:07,900
10 and offensive scoring the 
running back. 

2175
01:54:07,900 --> 01:54:10,800
Scored a bunch of touchdowns, I 
think it's a team that's going 

2176
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:13,100
to filter their offense through 
the running back because they 

2177
01:54:13,100 --> 01:54:16,000
don't really have skilled wide 
receivers or montre to me. 

2178
01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:19,200
Still projects is having a 
pretty big receiving role so I 

2179
01:54:19,208 --> 01:54:20,900
mean I just don't get it like 
you can start your draft. 

2180
01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:23,100
Like, if you want to start your 
draft, two wide receivers and 

2181
01:54:23,100 --> 01:54:27,100
grab room, Andre, I just think 
like you're kind of stealing a 

2182
01:54:27,100 --> 01:54:29,200
TV value away from the rest of 
the room. 

2183
01:54:29,500 --> 01:54:32,400
He's just, you know, I think 
projections will drive him up, 

2184
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:36,200
he's such an obvious value to 
me, but I think, yeah, the anti 

2185
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:39,600
Pat's bias is maybe where I fail
to get any p-value here. 

2186
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:43,400
I think people maybe to say, 
belcheck running backs and that 

2187
01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:46,800
keeps them low. 
But yeah, I don't get it. 

2188
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:48,400
I'll have a ton of them at this 
price. 

2189
01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:52,600
Yeah. 
I mean he's a need to click 

2190
01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:54,700
right now. 
I guess I was kind of like 

2191
01:54:54,700 --> 01:55:01,300
amused that people when I 
tweeted out like a picture of I 

2192
01:55:01,308 --> 01:55:05,600
had or a screenshot of. 
I had Josh Allen, Stefon Diggs 

2193
01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:09,500
and Ramon Dre, is it. 
I start and I got like people 

2194
01:55:09,500 --> 01:55:16,100
pushing back like on Ramon Dre 
as like going to hi-yah and that

2195
01:55:16,100 --> 01:55:19,900
that was kind of shocking to me.
Like because we are In a bubble 

2196
01:55:19,900 --> 01:55:23,400
and we're projecting 
essentially, like what things 

2197
01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:25,500
look like once the bubble gets 
bigger, you know, once more 

2198
01:55:25,500 --> 01:55:29,000
people come into the space and I
was kind of shocked that, like 

2199
01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:32,200
people who aren't drafting a ton
right now are like, oh, that's 

2200
01:55:32,200 --> 01:55:34,800
high for am Andre. 
I was thinking, maybe like, who 

2201
01:55:35,300 --> 01:55:36,900
are monitoring the third sounds 
nice. 

2202
01:55:37,900 --> 01:55:41,200
So, I mean, yeah. 
The clothesline value is not up 

2203
01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:42,200
to us. 
You know what I mean? 

2204
01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:45,300
It's up to other people, so I 
didn't have that perception was 

2205
01:55:45,300 --> 01:55:47,800
at least, at least made me, 
like, kind of dumped. 

2206
01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:50,500
Like I was like, I made Like 
double check my assumption. 

2207
01:55:50,500 --> 01:55:53,800
That people are going to want 
room Andre in the second round, 

2208
01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:55,800
the normies, I mean. 
Yeah. 

2209
01:55:55,900 --> 01:55:58,900
Now that's certainly fair. 
I think, I think it's possible. 

2210
01:55:58,900 --> 01:56:03,800
They that people don't like your
Madre, the Casual players don't 

2211
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:06,600
like him as much so I think. 
Yeah, that's it. 

2212
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:09,200
But if he stays at pick 30 I 
guess I don't see him falling 

2213
01:56:09,900 --> 01:56:12,000
and maybe now we're going 
outside the scope of our game 

2214
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:15,600
but I just think he's like a 
great pick regardless. 

2215
01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:18,100
So I'll probably end up with a 
ton of them this year if that 

2216
01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:20,900
casual setting. 
Man keeps them down. 

2217
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:23,000
Like he was in the most 
dysfunctional, like, one of the 

2218
01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:27,500
most dysfunctional offenses. 
We've seen last year and still 

2219
01:56:28,100 --> 01:56:31,200
would be, I think if he does we 
did last year. 

2220
01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:34,300
It's not like amazing in the 
third round but you're not like 

2221
01:56:34,300 --> 01:56:37,200
burned by it completely. 
And I think there's there's a 

2222
01:56:37,200 --> 01:56:40,400
lot more upside there. 
So we'll see. 

2223
01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:44,800
Anyways, we'll get out of here. 
Pat. 

2224
01:56:45,100 --> 01:56:48,400
What do you have coming up this 
week for leg up? 

2225
01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:51,100
Yes. 
I've got a, I'm going to be 

2226
01:56:51,100 --> 01:56:52,800
working on some stuff that I've 
talked about. 

2227
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:55,100
I don't know if we'll have it 
out this week on. 

2228
01:56:55,100 --> 01:56:58,600
Kind of the next two piece, I'm 
working on our, how to attack 

2229
01:56:58,600 --> 01:57:04,700
the elite quarterback ATP this 
year, and also, someone late 

2230
01:57:04,700 --> 01:57:08,200
round picks, but I did have an 
article last week on Elite tight

2231
01:57:08,200 --> 01:57:10,800
end, which I think is a big Edge
and laying out the case for 

2232
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:13,500
that. 
So check that out on the site. 

2233
01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:15,900
I'll probably put out a tweet 
thread on that summarizing some 

2234
01:57:15,900 --> 01:57:20,600
of the findings in the next day.
Or two Underdog credits are 

2235
01:57:20,600 --> 01:57:22,600
still available. 
You can get a $50 under all 

2236
01:57:22,600 --> 01:57:25,700
credit by signing up right now. 
If you go to Legendary 

2237
01:57:25,700 --> 01:57:29,100
upside.com, surely. 
You can get $30 off your first 

2238
01:57:29,100 --> 01:57:31,300
year. 
Takes down to $69. 

2239
01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:34,500
If you're on Underdog, you can 
get $50 Underdog credit as as 

2240
01:57:34,500 --> 01:57:36,200
well. 
So pretty, awesome time to sign 

2241
01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:37,800
up. 
You can also get 40% off Spike 

2242
01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:41,100
week with code leg up. 
So this is kind of like the be 

2243
01:57:41,100 --> 01:57:42,600
time to sign up if you're going 
to do it. 

2244
01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:47,300
Limited credits on those on how 
many underdogs credits I have 

2245
01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:48,400
and they're going pretty 
quickly. 

2246
01:57:48,400 --> 01:57:51,600
But there are still some 
available Awesome. 

2247
01:57:51,600 --> 01:57:55,100
Bada-bing. 
Bada-boom Davis, anything for 

2248
01:57:55,100 --> 01:57:58,000
you with your newsletter, Sports
grid, anything going up this 

2249
01:57:58,000 --> 01:57:59,600
week. 
Yeah, Sports, good Finnish 

2250
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:03,200
football podcast will have at 
least one episode out this week.

2251
01:58:03,300 --> 01:58:07,600
Jeff Edelstein from from rotor, 
Grinders and scores and odds is 

2252
01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:08,800
coming on the take cast this 
week. 

2253
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:13,800
I'm very excited to to chat with
him and I've been working on 

2254
01:58:14,100 --> 01:58:18,400
dynasty rankings because we're 
in the middle of Dynasty season 

2255
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:21,100
and I'm trying to make all these
trades and everything and Really

2256
01:58:21,100 --> 01:58:25,000
know how I feel relative to the 
market so that'll be out on 

2257
01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:27,500
something. 
They just need to be if I'm 

2258
01:58:27,500 --> 01:58:29,400
going to do the work, I'm going 
to publish them somewhere for 

2259
01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:33,300
sure. 
Thanks, that's awesome. 

2260
01:58:33,400 --> 01:58:38,100
Well, well, here at ATP chasing,
will be back next Monday, 

2261
01:58:38,300 --> 01:58:42,200
obviously ship, chasing coming 
up this Wednesday. 

2262
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:47,100
And yeah, I will be on Twitter, 
continuing to alienate my 

2263
01:58:47,100 --> 01:58:48,900
followers with this horrible 
week, 17. 

2264
01:58:48,900 --> 01:58:53,700
Bit, you can find me there. 
Anyways for Pat it's going well 

2265
01:58:53,700 --> 01:58:58,100
so far, yeah. 
Go for bat for Davis, ztp 

2266
01:58:58,100 --> 01:58:59,800
chasing will be back next year.