1 00:00:12,750 --> 00:00:16,430 All right, welcome back to the Ship chasing Mini soda series. 2 00:00:16,430 --> 00:00:19,870 We kicked this off with our first episode, talking some high 3 00:00:19,870 --> 00:00:22,830 level strategy for the contest and then looking at our 4 00:00:22,830 --> 00:00:25,910 decisions at the 1-2 turn. You guys heard us debating some 5 00:00:25,910 --> 00:00:27,430 of those. Spoiler alert here. 6 00:00:27,430 --> 00:00:30,630 We did end up taking a J. Brown and then CD Lamb comes 7 00:00:30,630 --> 00:00:32,990 back around to us. We were pretty interested in a 8 00:00:32,990 --> 00:00:34,470 Monroe St. Brown as well. 9 00:00:34,630 --> 00:00:37,390 That doesn't happen. But we happily scoop up a J 10 00:00:37,390 --> 00:00:39,630 Brown and CD Lamb and now we are on the clock. 11 00:00:39,630 --> 00:00:43,910 Literally on the clock this time at 311, we see the quarterbacks 12 00:00:43,910 --> 00:00:46,190 come off the board. Josh Jacobs, Keenan Allen, TJ 13 00:00:46,190 --> 00:00:49,270 Hawkinson. How are you guys feeling about 14 00:00:49,270 --> 00:00:53,990 this spot here? Well, there was a potential for 15 00:00:54,030 --> 00:00:58,430 a nice falling value and we didn't really get that. 16 00:00:58,430 --> 00:01:04,950 So that's a little bit of a bummer, but we did get the two 17 00:01:04,950 --> 00:01:07,230 guys we were debating at the 1-2 turn. 18 00:01:07,540 --> 00:01:09,860 Both of them. So that was pretty sweet, yeah. 19 00:01:09,900 --> 00:01:12,980 The recap that we got a J Brown and then CD Lame on the wrap. 20 00:01:12,980 --> 00:01:16,260 So I can't. You know, we can't complain too 21 00:01:16,260 --> 00:01:19,260 much after a pretty sweet first two rounds. 22 00:01:20,380 --> 00:01:23,020 Yeah. And I, so I agree with you, we 23 00:01:23,020 --> 00:01:25,180 don't really get a great phone, but I mean like the the fact 24 00:01:25,180 --> 00:01:27,940 that like Hawkins san or Jacobs with the holdout risk almost 25 00:01:27,940 --> 00:01:32,220 made it backwards pretty exciting I guess sort of just 26 00:01:32,220 --> 00:01:35,780 jumping ahead to where we want to go with it, I mean. 27 00:01:36,470 --> 00:01:38,590 In the last 17 picks, there's only been 4 receivers. 28 00:01:38,590 --> 00:01:40,630 There's only been two receivers through the third round. 29 00:01:40,630 --> 00:01:44,950 We're at FFPC rooms now, right? We got, we got some QB's going. 30 00:01:44,990 --> 00:01:46,670 Lamar ends up going in the third. 31 00:01:46,910 --> 00:01:49,190 We talked a little bit about taking Andrews early to try to 32 00:01:49,190 --> 00:01:51,550 take Lamar. It's not the Andrews drafter who 33 00:01:51,550 --> 00:01:54,190 takes Lamar, The Andrews drafter takes Allen and then Lamar goes 34 00:01:54,190 --> 00:01:56,910 to pick after. But we if we had taken Andrews, 35 00:01:56,910 --> 00:01:58,310 who wouldn't have been able to get Lamar back? 36 00:01:58,670 --> 00:02:02,770 It's very much our type of. Situation where like it's easy 37 00:02:02,770 --> 00:02:05,530 to piss yellow now, like when all this stuff happens for four 38 00:02:05,530 --> 00:02:08,850 receivers in the last 17 picks. And so the guy that that I'm 39 00:02:08,850 --> 00:02:12,010 kind of fixated on with this pick and we talked a little bit 40 00:02:12,010 --> 00:02:16,250 I think even on our 1-2 turn about Keenan and Debo being guys 41 00:02:16,250 --> 00:02:19,450 that we like to the 3-4 turn Keenan goes. 42 00:02:19,730 --> 00:02:23,770 But Debo Samuel is 1 and he's a I think a really similar play to 43 00:02:23,770 --> 00:02:26,530 what Pat made a really good case on a J. 44 00:02:26,530 --> 00:02:29,130 Brown that eventually got me around to it. 45 00:02:29,730 --> 00:02:31,970 And I mean sort of funny, but like, I kind of needed to be 46 00:02:31,970 --> 00:02:32,850 sold on A J. Brown. 47 00:02:32,850 --> 00:02:36,170 But I I have this mindset of like, I want to hit a home run 48 00:02:36,170 --> 00:02:37,730 on every pec. And Pete, you use this 49 00:02:37,730 --> 00:02:40,130 terminology a lot on your streams about like just 50 00:02:40,130 --> 00:02:43,330 sometimes taking the single. And what Pat's point was when we 51 00:02:43,330 --> 00:02:46,410 recorded our first mini so it was like Agent Brown's got a 2.5 52 00:02:46,530 --> 00:02:47,850 yards per out run four straight years. 53 00:02:47,850 --> 00:02:51,570 Like, he's not a single if I don't, if I'm even right that he 54 00:02:51,570 --> 00:02:54,250 can't hit a home run from that ADP, he's still like a 55 00:02:54,250 --> 00:02:58,060 guaranteed triple right? And Debo Samuel sort of similar 56 00:02:58,060 --> 00:03:00,980 when you look at his long term, I mean last year was a down 57 00:03:00,980 --> 00:03:05,420 year, but I mean I just, it's a similar bet in the sense of like 58 00:03:05,420 --> 00:03:06,820 I just think if you start with a J. 59 00:03:06,820 --> 00:03:09,340 Brown CD, Liam, Debo Samuel, you're starting with three 60 00:03:09,340 --> 00:03:11,900 really good football players. There's offensive concerns 61 00:03:11,900 --> 00:03:14,980 through all three of those in terms of like actual ceilings. 62 00:03:14,980 --> 00:03:18,540 But man, like that's that's three really guys that I'm very 63 00:03:18,540 --> 00:03:20,260 confident are very good football players. 64 00:03:21,540 --> 00:03:25,130 Yeah. And are we all in agreement real 65 00:03:25,130 --> 00:03:28,890 quick though, just that this pick is for sure a wide 66 00:03:28,890 --> 00:03:30,370 receiver. I mean, I just tapped through on 67 00:03:30,370 --> 00:03:31,970 the Command Center for those of you guys who are seeing the 68 00:03:31,970 --> 00:03:34,530 video version, I mean. Can you do that slower? 69 00:03:34,570 --> 00:03:36,730 But cuz I wanna say this what you're seeing? 70 00:03:36,810 --> 00:03:40,730 So, so quarterbacks just to rule out borough, fields? 71 00:03:40,730 --> 00:03:43,250 Herbert. Nothing. 72 00:03:43,290 --> 00:03:46,370 There PJ Brown, City Lamb running back. 73 00:03:46,370 --> 00:03:50,010 You have Naji Harris, Joe Mixon, ETN, Aaron Jones, Walker. 74 00:03:50,130 --> 00:03:52,850 I believe Gibbs would have been the one name we would have 75 00:03:52,850 --> 00:03:56,530 considered at this spot and he goes at the 2-3 turn. 76 00:03:59,070 --> 00:04:02,390 I guess we could entertain ETN but it still seems a little 77 00:04:02,390 --> 00:04:29,550 early based on his ADP. Yeah, I think the big case that 78 00:04:29,550 --> 00:04:32,510 could be made is, I think you could DK Metcalf has fallen here 79 00:04:32,510 --> 00:04:34,350 and we see that all ahead of Debo. 80 00:04:03,990 --> 00:04:06,510 And then just to do the tight end stuff, we didn't get the 81 00:04:06,510 --> 00:04:09,310 Andrews that we talked about. You do have Kittle and Pitts. 82 00:04:09,550 --> 00:04:12,190 It puts us in an interesting spot because even coming back 83 00:04:12,190 --> 00:04:14,510 around in the beginning of the fourth they would be reaches by 84 00:04:14,550 --> 00:04:16,870 a DP. However, they are definitely not 85 00:04:16,870 --> 00:04:22,029 coming back to 511 and so that's really the big decision and then 86 00:04:22,029 --> 00:04:24,550 it just gets you back to wide receiver, at least with this 87 00:04:24,550 --> 00:04:36,070 pick for sure wide. And I don't have a lot of DK 88 00:04:36,070 --> 00:04:38,990 Metcalf. I don't take him much. 89 00:04:38,990 --> 00:04:46,550 I do tend to take him over Debo Samuel because he's just Debo's 90 00:04:46,550 --> 00:04:49,950 often here and D K's rarely here is really what it just comes 91 00:04:49,950 --> 00:04:51,390 down to. So building out a best Paul 92 00:04:51,390 --> 00:04:55,350 portfolio, I'm like I'll take my DK when I get my chance, but in 93 00:04:55,350 --> 00:04:59,850 order for me to take DK. Everyone except Keenan Allen has 94 00:04:59,850 --> 00:05:02,090 to be off the board. Like I I'm not really that into 95 00:05:02,090 --> 00:05:04,690 him. I don't take him until I feel 96 00:05:04,690 --> 00:05:06,890 like like I'm willing to take him as the first wide receiver 97 00:05:06,890 --> 00:05:11,050 of this post T Higgins Tier, but really only because the market 98 00:05:11,050 --> 00:05:14,730 likes him so much. So I guess what I would say is 99 00:05:14,730 --> 00:05:17,570 if we are planning on going wide receiver, wide receiver here, 100 00:05:18,210 --> 00:05:21,920 then I would. Say we should at least talk 101 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,640 through DK Metcalf because Debo Samuels more like to make more 102 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,080 likely to make it back. So it's sort of like what's the 103 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:34,480 who's our, who's our backup wide receiver to Debo Samuel. 104 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,600 How big is that gap? Does that make it worth gambling 105 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,400 to try to get both DK Metcalf and DK Debo Samuel? 106 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,280 And and how big is the gap between Debo and DK for you 107 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:45,910 guys? I think that does make What 108 00:05:45,910 --> 00:05:50,430 makes this hard for me is I have Debo, I had a Metcalf, but I do 109 00:05:50,430 --> 00:05:52,830 have these guys kind of like in a similar tier. 110 00:05:52,830 --> 00:05:58,590 But then after Debo I would be Metcalf over Ridley, Amari, Judy 111 00:05:58,590 --> 00:06:01,350 probably in that range. I've been very scared of 112 00:06:01,350 --> 00:06:04,870 Metcalf's prices in underdog in the early 3rd. 113 00:06:04,870 --> 00:06:07,470 I am very worried about what JSN is going to do to him. 114 00:06:07,790 --> 00:06:11,510 But like you're saying, you are getting a nice discount here and 115 00:06:11,510 --> 00:06:13,710 it makes it hard because it's that it's almost like the Amanra 116 00:06:13,710 --> 00:06:15,430 St. Brown problem from the 1-2 turn, 117 00:06:15,430 --> 00:06:17,670 right where we really like him. But we thought, can we play the 118 00:06:17,670 --> 00:06:20,070 ADP game and get two guys we really like. 119 00:06:20,830 --> 00:06:23,590 I have a feeling if we go Debo here, DK Metcalf gets snapped 120 00:06:23,590 --> 00:06:25,830 up. If we go DK Metcalf and Debo 121 00:06:25,830 --> 00:06:27,990 gets snapped up, now all of a sudden we didn't get our 122 00:06:27,990 --> 00:06:31,350 preferred player and we're getting a secondary non 123 00:06:31,350 --> 00:06:35,070 preferred player after that. Yeah, that's that's the really 124 00:06:35,070 --> 00:06:37,070 tricky element. Is like you, the last thing 125 00:06:37,070 --> 00:06:38,910 you'd want to do is not take your preferred player and then 126 00:06:38,910 --> 00:06:41,480 have Debo go. And I understand trying to play 127 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,360 for Debo. The DK thing that I would ask, I 128 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,080 haven't been taking him a lot of underarch either. 129 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,760 I've heard both of you guys make that case. 130 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,000 I've yet to talk to a lot of people who like his price. 131 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,160 I think when you're building an underdog portfolio, this is a 132 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,240 great example of 1 where when he falls, you take a little bit of 133 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,080 him. Cuz you're like, yeah, I mean 134 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,200 I'm building a huge portfolio. These are cheap drafts. 135 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,850 Like I'm gonna get some of him. But like where do we actually 136 00:07:05,850 --> 00:07:08,450 think he should go? Because I think with JSN like 137 00:07:08,450 --> 00:07:11,370 he's mispriced by us like a a solid round. 138 00:07:11,370 --> 00:07:13,890 I think I would have Debo ahead of him as well straight up. 139 00:07:14,490 --> 00:07:16,770 I think it's a pretty significant mispriced by the 140 00:07:16,770 --> 00:07:21,330 market which is largely because and we see in this draft, once T 141 00:07:21,330 --> 00:07:24,450 Higgins goes off the board there's not really a clear wide 142 00:07:24,450 --> 00:07:26,850 receiver 15, right? And so it's been Debo all 143 00:07:26,850 --> 00:07:30,050 offseason in this draft the way that the high stakes drafters 144 00:07:30,050 --> 00:07:32,450 responded with seven straight non wide receiver picks and then 145 00:07:32,450 --> 00:07:36,350 Keenan Allen goes late 3rd. But Debo, I mean DK has been 146 00:07:36,350 --> 00:07:40,990 filling that in in best ball and and consistently sitting there 147 00:07:41,590 --> 00:07:43,990 and he's not going to fall too far from there because when he's 148 00:07:43,990 --> 00:07:46,550 does start to fall in an individual draft people just 149 00:07:46,550 --> 00:07:48,350 scoop him up from structural reasons. 150 00:07:48,350 --> 00:07:50,110 Yeah they want to get some exposure whatever. 151 00:07:51,030 --> 00:07:56,350 I do feel like his I would way rather be open to taking like a 152 00:07:56,350 --> 00:07:59,630 JSN later and not feeling like I'm you know over well. 153 00:07:59,630 --> 00:08:01,710 I mean, we could, we could obviously double stack Seattle, 154 00:08:01,710 --> 00:08:03,510 but you're less likely to do that and. 155 00:08:03,930 --> 00:08:05,970 And manage then, you know, obviously an underdog, it's like 156 00:08:05,970 --> 00:08:08,490 an easy Click to to to like stack up an offense. 157 00:08:08,490 --> 00:08:11,650 But we might not want to necessarily do that. 158 00:08:12,010 --> 00:08:15,730 I would rather play Seattle through the cheaper pieces is 159 00:08:15,730 --> 00:08:17,730 sort of the way that I put it. That's kind of stealing that 160 00:08:17,730 --> 00:08:19,410 from Sean Siegel. That's the way he usually puts 161 00:08:19,410 --> 00:08:24,330 that stuff to me. It's just like I don't see how 162 00:08:24,330 --> 00:08:28,330 Debo makes sense in the third round even as he's behind ADPI. 163 00:08:28,330 --> 00:08:30,560 Do agree that like. You know, from a value 164 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,919 perspective and a structural build perspective, this gives us 165 00:08:32,919 --> 00:08:36,360 something unique at least. Yeah, it's it's an interesting 166 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,280 point that his ADP is, like, so egregious that it's actually 167 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,919 keeping his ADP in place. Because, yeah, I take him at the 168 00:08:42,919 --> 00:08:45,360 top of this wide receiver tier not because I like him the most, 169 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,960 but because he's often taken ahead of Breese Hall, Andre 170 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,600 Stephenson and Mark Andrews. And I'm like, not taking him 171 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,600 ahead of those guys. So yeah, I end up like. 172 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,720 Taking him earlier than even I think he should go. 173 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,720 I mean, I I would take Keenan Allen over him. 174 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,040 I like Terry Mclaurin more than him. 175 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,280 Like that's, you know, like and that feels kind of gross to say. 176 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,520 But I mean Mclaurin is I think the clear number one on an 177 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,560 offense that's going to be more concentrated than the Seahawks 178 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:14,520 will be. Now like I I think JSN is a 179 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,800 really good prospect. I think he's going to carve out 180 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,680 a role very quickly, very quickly, meaning at some point 181 00:09:20,680 --> 00:09:23,920 this season he'll have a meaningful role that's going to 182 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,410 hurt Metcalf some. So and then some of my stuff 183 00:09:27,410 --> 00:09:31,290 lock it comes out as the higher is the better bet. 184 00:09:31,690 --> 00:09:34,690 Now I I think I don't think he's the better bet because I think 185 00:09:34,690 --> 00:09:40,090 he is more at risk of JSN than Metcalf like in terms of routes 186 00:09:40,090 --> 00:09:42,290 and stuff. But like if you just look at the 187 00:09:42,290 --> 00:09:46,290 efficiency stuff, I mean it's a big premium you're paying for 188 00:09:46,290 --> 00:09:50,730 Metcalf over lock it. So I guess I don't. 189 00:09:50,970 --> 00:09:54,610 I'm not going to pound the table for us scooping the value here. 190 00:09:54,980 --> 00:09:59,020 I just, I do think we should at least talk it through because 191 00:09:59,060 --> 00:10:03,020 that kind of sitting at the top of the the applet and then it's 192 00:10:03,020 --> 00:10:06,020 Naji Harris, Calvin Ridley, Joe Mixon, Amari Cooper and then 193 00:10:06,020 --> 00:10:09,780 Debo. So it feels at least 50-50 that 194 00:10:09,780 --> 00:10:14,080 we would get Debo. I would. 195 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,360 Like to say with the Metcalf for sure, just like literally just 196 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,840 now, like everyone, even in the ship chasing discord, they're 197 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,120 talking about this Devo quote that went out to where Again, 198 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,920 not that this should change anything, but I do feel 199 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,420 obligated to read this pull up, this Shafter thing, which is 200 00:10:29,420 --> 00:10:31,300 very funny. But the point is, is that Debo 201 00:10:31,300 --> 00:10:34,340 is going to be talked about and on everyone's mind. 49ers wide 202 00:10:34,340 --> 00:10:36,340 receiver Devo Samuel has been determined to prove to head 203 00:10:36,340 --> 00:10:38,780 coach Kyle Shanahan and others he will be better prepared this 204 00:10:38,780 --> 00:10:41,060 season. Never had a grown man sent me so 205 00:10:41,060 --> 00:10:43,220 many pictures of himself with his shirt off, but he looked 206 00:10:43,220 --> 00:10:50,110 good. That's, I mean, that's one of 207 00:10:50,110 --> 00:10:52,230 the best quotes of the offseason. 208 00:10:52,230 --> 00:10:53,870 Right, I mean. Right. 209 00:10:53,990 --> 00:10:57,150 That's, I know we're. Not going to let that quote 210 00:10:57,150 --> 00:10:59,950 affect us, but we are taking Debo Samuel now, right? 211 00:11:00,470 --> 00:11:04,950 Now that we've read that, so to me, like if we all feel 212 00:11:04,950 --> 00:11:09,470 similarly that there's other guys we can make cases for over 213 00:11:10,230 --> 00:11:12,590 Metcalf even with Debo off the board. 214 00:11:12,590 --> 00:11:16,390 Like to me that just pushes us like we take Debo here. 215 00:11:16,870 --> 00:11:20,950 If the room gives us DK Metcalf on a silver platter at 4 two, we 216 00:11:20,950 --> 00:11:24,990 say thank you and we move on. And if not, we talk through 217 00:11:25,190 --> 00:11:29,630 Mclaurin, Judy, whatever other wide receivers we think can 218 00:11:29,630 --> 00:11:32,910 hang. Or can part of the reason I kind 219 00:11:32,910 --> 00:11:36,510 of like taking the receiver we like is at 402, I do think 220 00:11:36,510 --> 00:11:40,630 that's where you could get into a Travis ETN or a reach on a 221 00:11:40,670 --> 00:11:42,830 tight end discussion at least, but. 222 00:11:43,830 --> 00:11:46,590 I don't think we, we like, necessarily have to go that way. 223 00:11:46,590 --> 00:11:49,830 But it does leave U.S. Open if like the turn goes 224 00:11:49,830 --> 00:11:52,390 receiver. Receiver, maybe, I guess. 225 00:11:52,390 --> 00:11:55,470 I don't know who that would. I mean it, it would leave Naji 226 00:11:55,470 --> 00:11:58,230 Harris as the guy on ABP. And I'm not gonna make a case 227 00:11:58,230 --> 00:12:02,230 for Naji Harris, but yeah. But they could go receive a 228 00:12:02,230 --> 00:12:05,670 receiver and we could still feel OK, right? 229 00:12:05,670 --> 00:12:07,950 I mean, yeah, we could, depending on who those receivers 230 00:12:07,950 --> 00:12:10,110 are. I we should definitely do a mini 231 00:12:10,110 --> 00:12:11,550 so for that one, because I don't. 232 00:12:12,790 --> 00:12:14,430 I'm not as into Judy as you guys. 233 00:12:14,430 --> 00:12:17,750 I think maybe I'm more open to Ridley than you are. 234 00:12:18,910 --> 00:12:22,070 Cooper's a little bit gross. Well, based on our, based on our 235 00:12:22,070 --> 00:12:24,230 schedule, I get stuff guys, of the fact that we'll probably be 236 00:12:24,230 --> 00:12:25,670 on the clock like an hour after this. 237 00:12:25,670 --> 00:12:27,150 We need to have this conversation now. 238 00:12:27,630 --> 00:12:29,350 OK, All right. OK. 239 00:12:29,470 --> 00:12:32,110 Well, so to me I would take Ridley. 240 00:12:32,310 --> 00:12:34,710 So wait, are we confirmed on Debo I? 241 00:12:34,990 --> 00:12:39,030 I'm 100% Debo on this pic. We're all we all prefer Debo, I 242 00:12:39,030 --> 00:12:40,110 think, right? Yeah. 243 00:12:40,680 --> 00:12:43,360 Pat Even like. I like, no, I like Debo. 244 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,760 I just like Debo more like he's the guy I want. 245 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,600 Yeah, I don't know that we have enough cover to justify scooping 246 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,760 DK. Like none of us can make that 247 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,840 compelling. I mean, DK is really good, but 248 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,720 target distribution, we don't expect them to be a ton of 249 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,840 passing attempts there. Yeah, I don't know. 250 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,400 Let's go. And we don't have the conviction 251 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,020 when you think about how it plays out too would just how 252 00:13:07,060 --> 00:13:11,660 many ways they use Debo as like a Swiss army knife that too like 253 00:13:11,860 --> 00:13:13,740 he's always going to be live for that big game. 254 00:13:13,740 --> 00:13:16,140 It was even during the FFPC playoff challenge we talked why 255 00:13:16,140 --> 00:13:17,980 he was going to be such a popular pitch because people 256 00:13:17,980 --> 00:13:20,500 felt good about him. The scenarios were DK Metcalf, 257 00:13:20,540 --> 00:13:23,420 yes, he's always going to be live for a big two touchdown 258 00:13:23,420 --> 00:13:25,020 game. Like he has that obviously in 259 00:13:25,020 --> 00:13:27,660 his arsenal. But if JSN is bearing down on 260 00:13:27,660 --> 00:13:31,940 him, how you feel about that in those clicks and putting them in 261 00:13:31,940 --> 00:13:33,900 your starting lineup toward the end of the season especially 262 00:13:33,900 --> 00:13:37,660 could feel extremely you're starting to say like the outs 263 00:13:37,660 --> 00:13:39,740 for Metcalf ceiling game. Yes, they're there, but they 264 00:13:39,740 --> 00:13:42,740 keep getting smaller and smaller where I feel like that ceiling 265 00:13:42,740 --> 00:13:46,820 for Debo is going to exist based on no matter what his teammates 266 00:13:46,820 --> 00:13:48,780 do, essentially. I think that's really well put. 267 00:13:49,060 --> 00:13:52,060 So if we take Debo here, then we can talk through a little bit of 268 00:13:52,060 --> 00:13:55,260 contingency about what the turn does and where that leaves us. 269 00:13:55,420 --> 00:13:56,900 What case were you going to make? 270 00:13:58,300 --> 00:14:02,580 Well, I guess I probably good to order the wide receivers going 271 00:14:02,740 --> 00:14:06,340 forward because I do think we can talk about ETN and and a big 272 00:14:06,340 --> 00:14:08,780 tight end reach. But the tight end reach given 273 00:14:08,780 --> 00:14:11,620 that they're kind of all down at the far end of the board, it's 274 00:14:11,620 --> 00:14:13,100 not like a three, four pick reach. 275 00:14:13,100 --> 00:14:17,540 It's like a big old reach and we're going to have drafts down 276 00:14:17,540 --> 00:14:21,380 there at that side of the board. We're going to be doing some non 277 00:14:21,420 --> 00:14:23,780 tight end premium drafts too or we can maybe even scoop these 278 00:14:23,780 --> 00:14:29,660 guys like a real value, so. My big case just on that with 279 00:14:30,340 --> 00:14:33,180 this goes with the Debo over DK thing is that I think right now 280 00:14:33,180 --> 00:14:36,180 we are at the start of a very flat tier and that people are 281 00:14:36,180 --> 00:14:37,460 going. To make those reaches. 282 00:14:38,420 --> 00:14:40,260 That's true. I all agree with super flat 283 00:14:40,260 --> 00:14:43,300 through this for I agree Yeah yeah, real quick. 284 00:14:43,300 --> 00:14:45,700 Should I put this Debo pick in and maybe? 285 00:14:45,900 --> 00:14:48,300 There's a chance this guy snap picks and makes this a little 286 00:14:48,300 --> 00:14:49,260 easier. Yeah. 287 00:14:49,540 --> 00:14:50,500 Yeah. I'll put that in. 288 00:14:51,380 --> 00:14:51,780 All right. Yeah. 289 00:14:51,780 --> 00:14:55,980 So let's let's talk about it because I do think if if we 290 00:14:55,980 --> 00:14:59,140 consider a reach to me it's for the tight ends, you know, I 291 00:14:59,140 --> 00:15:01,580 think I'd feel much more comfortable with talking about 292 00:15:01,580 --> 00:15:03,740 pits or kittle than I would even ETN. 293 00:15:03,980 --> 00:15:07,580 So to me, it's kind of like a tight end reach verse, our 294 00:15:07,580 --> 00:15:09,860 favorite of this very flat wide receiver tier. 295 00:15:10,060 --> 00:15:12,780 The biggest reason I want to think through it is what I 296 00:15:12,780 --> 00:15:15,180 talked about on ship chasing last night and you guys have 297 00:15:15,180 --> 00:15:16,940 really sold me on the first couple. 298 00:15:17,540 --> 00:15:19,420 Like I think it was two years ago, first couple times we did 299 00:15:19,420 --> 00:15:20,860 these drafts, even maybe last year. 300 00:15:20,860 --> 00:15:23,260 I don't think I fully internalized as well. 301 00:15:23,980 --> 00:15:26,700 What your guys's point was, you guys have played FFPC a couple 302 00:15:26,700 --> 00:15:30,580 years longer than me about when you go without an anchor running 303 00:15:30,580 --> 00:15:33,820 back and without an anchor tight end, how you really wind up 304 00:15:34,700 --> 00:15:36,500 trying to hit both in the same round. 305 00:15:36,780 --> 00:15:39,940 And it's it's it becomes really difficult to build structurally. 306 00:15:39,940 --> 00:15:42,140 It was tough for Pete. Even though you had an anchor 307 00:15:42,140 --> 00:15:45,100 running back in an anchor tight end, it still kind of became 308 00:15:45,100 --> 00:15:47,700 tough because you went a bunch of receivers in a row after that 309 00:15:47,700 --> 00:15:49,600 point. So I think we have to talk 310 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:50,880 through okay what? Do we do at 5, you're talking 311 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,840 Pete's Pros versus Joes that that was last night for us, not 312 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,920 for, not for the sorry. Yeah, not for people listening 313 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,280 for Pete's Pros versus Joes that was on the stream or on the 314 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,560 YouTube channel. I think we could talk through a 315 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,680 little bit about if we did go wide receiver again, talk 316 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,080 through a little bit about what we might want to do at 5-6 cuz I 317 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:12,400 think we might want to be running back there. 318 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,400 I mean, I think there's some potential options, some. 319 00:16:14,820 --> 00:16:17,660 JK Dobbins, maybe even we were reaching on Javante Williams now 320 00:16:17,660 --> 00:16:20,100 that he hasn't started on PUP like is that something that 321 00:16:20,180 --> 00:16:27,020 doesn't be open at the 5-6. So we we really like the seven 322 00:16:27,020 --> 00:16:29,100 eight as well for potential receivers. 323 00:16:29,100 --> 00:16:33,060 Although we talked a little bit about JSN on the first mini 324 00:16:33,060 --> 00:16:37,820 Sewed just since then couple days I was talking to Sean a 325 00:16:37,820 --> 00:16:40,300 little bit and in more recent ADP. 326 00:16:41,210 --> 00:16:43,850 Sean was telling me something that they have on FFPC. 327 00:16:43,850 --> 00:16:46,850 He's seen Jason at 704 and I was like OK, he's probably not 328 00:16:46,850 --> 00:16:49,210 making it back to the 711. We were towards the end of our 329 00:16:49,210 --> 00:16:51,930 our first mini so conversation. He's skeptical that he would 330 00:16:51,930 --> 00:16:54,610 fall back to us at 7:11. I don't think that's probably 331 00:16:54,610 --> 00:16:58,210 likely, but that's still a decent receiver range at 7-8. 332 00:16:58,610 --> 00:17:01,970 The question I'm I'm long windedly getting back to is if 333 00:17:01,970 --> 00:17:04,089 we don't take a running back or a tight end here? 334 00:17:05,260 --> 00:17:07,180 Are we going like what? What are we setting ourselves up 335 00:17:07,180 --> 00:17:10,300 45678 and then in that range where we would have to hit a lot 336 00:17:10,300 --> 00:17:12,780 of 0 RBS and tight end options in nine 10/11/12. 337 00:17:14,020 --> 00:17:17,380 Yeah, you're definitely right. Like a guy like Dobbins will be 338 00:17:17,380 --> 00:17:20,339 there most likely in the early six. 339 00:17:21,140 --> 00:17:23,420 You know, looking. I know it's not the same format, 340 00:17:23,420 --> 00:17:26,700 but I'm just looking at. My Can you show the FFPC command 341 00:17:26,700 --> 00:17:27,619 center board? Yeah, yeah. 342 00:17:27,660 --> 00:17:30,620 I can even show the OHH, this is the grid here. 343 00:17:30,620 --> 00:17:35,590 But if I slide over, we can even see the the percentage chance 344 00:17:35,590 --> 00:17:38,430 that these guys are available in two picks here. 345 00:17:40,350 --> 00:17:46,670 Let me see the full thing here. So you do start to see, yeah, 346 00:17:46,670 --> 00:17:53,070 Dobbins, 31% chance, but this a DP might be a little anchored 347 00:17:53,070 --> 00:17:55,750 before getting placed on POP, yeah. 348 00:17:57,870 --> 00:17:59,550 He's probably more like 5050 right now. 349 00:18:00,530 --> 00:18:01,410 I do. I do. 350 00:18:01,410 --> 00:18:04,090 Hear your point, Andre Swift is maybe an option. 351 00:18:04,090 --> 00:18:06,810 We took A J. Brown Yeah. 352 00:18:07,570 --> 00:18:12,010 I think just like how it plays out structurally. 353 00:18:12,890 --> 00:18:16,610 I do, man. I do really think the tight end 354 00:18:16,610 --> 00:18:23,770 this is is nice to have even as a reach, because my whole thing 355 00:18:23,770 --> 00:18:26,370 is like you saw the wide receivers that I was cranking 356 00:18:26,790 --> 00:18:34,310 last night and like even then is Judy and you know Drake London 357 00:18:34,310 --> 00:18:37,430 and those guys, are they that different from that caliber wide 358 00:18:37,430 --> 00:18:41,030 receiver that will just happily double tap at the 5-6 turn, 359 00:18:41,310 --> 00:18:44,110 probably the 7-8? Are we already in a flat area of 360 00:18:44,110 --> 00:18:45,910 wide receiver? Where the the difference? 361 00:18:46,890 --> 00:18:49,130 I think that's sort of what we were all saying with Debo is we 362 00:18:49,130 --> 00:18:51,290 can all see scenarios like this is a guy that was an early 363 00:18:51,290 --> 00:18:54,330 second round pick last year for a reason, had a tough year. 364 00:19:09,570 --> 00:18:55,650 He's above it. But we can all see scenarios 365 00:18:55,650 --> 00:18:59,410 where he's above the the rest of these guys, but the rest of the 366 00:18:59,410 --> 00:19:01,810 names at wide receiver on the board, you start to get into 367 00:19:01,810 --> 00:19:04,410 this range and we can include Metcalf in this I think a little 368 00:19:04,410 --> 00:19:06,290 bit. Maybe he's above it, maybe 369 00:19:06,290 --> 00:19:08,890 Ridley's above it. But it starts to get market 370 00:19:08,890 --> 00:19:12,330 feels. I don't really, personally, but 371 00:19:12,370 --> 00:19:14,720 I'm yeah, yeah. I'm kind of willing to be like, 372 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,720 OK. All the way, all the way down to 373 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,560 Pete's point, to the guys. We could get a 5-6. 374 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,120 Like a Chris Godwin maybe, or you know who like? 375 00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:22,720 I think it's a it's a pretty flat group. 376 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,000 See all these guys? The percentage chance of over 50 377 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,520 at that next pick, Deonte Johnson, Christian Kirk, Mike 378 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,200 Williams, I you Tony's Dunzo. I do see a bit of a tear break. 379 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,720 I see my view on it is there's sort of a tear break after 380 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,520 Higgins and that that that tier sort of ends. 381 00:19:40,940 --> 00:19:43,500 Around Christian Kirk and Brandon and I Yuk or slightly 382 00:19:43,500 --> 00:19:45,740 before that. And then maybe they kick off a 383 00:19:45,740 --> 00:19:50,580 tier that then includes Godwin and Lockett and Marques Brown 384 00:19:50,700 --> 00:19:54,420 and and Deontay Johnson. I'm not quite as high on on 385 00:19:54,420 --> 00:19:57,660 Godwin as you guys, but I mean do like to me he's not in the 386 00:19:57,660 --> 00:20:01,500 same tier as Drake London. Like Drake, London has, I think, 387 00:20:01,500 --> 00:20:04,900 quite a bit more upside. He's easily in the same tier to 388 00:20:04,900 --> 00:20:07,180 me, so yeah, that's just a difference of opinion there. 389 00:20:09,260 --> 00:20:11,700 But yeah, I think, I think we all agree though that we would 390 00:20:11,700 --> 00:20:18,060 like a couple wide receivers there at that 5-6 turn. 391 00:20:20,660 --> 00:20:23,420 Yeah. Although I guess I don't, I mean 392 00:20:23,420 --> 00:20:28,260 I would probably personally prefer the two V twos of you 393 00:20:28,260 --> 00:20:37,060 know, like Ridley and Swift versus ETN and Godwin or 394 00:20:37,060 --> 00:20:40,660 something like I think I. Probably, but what about tight 395 00:20:40,660 --> 00:20:42,700 end? Are are you pretty out on tight 396 00:20:42,700 --> 00:20:46,420 end here at 402 or no? That's what I I'm more I'm more 397 00:20:46,420 --> 00:20:50,500 open to that because with the tight end premium you know all 398 00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:55,340 the sudden pits starts to look like you know he's scoring like 399 00:20:55,340 --> 00:20:57,340 these wide receivers. He gives us the positional 400 00:20:57,340 --> 00:20:59,220 advantage. We can make up that wide 401 00:20:59,220 --> 00:21:01,700 receiver scoring or even come close to make up the wide 402 00:21:01,700 --> 00:21:05,620 receiver scoring. That's probably that's a win for 403 00:21:05,620 --> 00:21:09,810 us if if we hit on pits. I also feel like, again to the 404 00:21:09,810 --> 00:21:12,210 point I was making earlier about how you sold me on A J Brown. 405 00:21:12,210 --> 00:21:14,730 I feel like our first three receivers do feel more like 406 00:21:14,730 --> 00:21:17,610 triples than home runs. Pitts could be the home run. 407 00:21:17,810 --> 00:21:19,450 You know what I mean? Like he feels like a home run 408 00:21:19,450 --> 00:21:20,930 pick. It's it's a way above ADP. 409 00:21:20,930 --> 00:21:24,730 But if he hits, he hits. I still firmly believe that Kyle 410 00:21:24,730 --> 00:21:26,850 Pitts has overall tied in one in his range of outcomes. 411 00:21:26,850 --> 00:21:29,010 That probably requires Travis Kelsey to fall off and miss a 412 00:21:29,010 --> 00:21:32,050 little bit of time. But like I firmly believe he can 413 00:21:32,050 --> 00:21:35,750 outscore the rest of the position pretty you know in his 414 00:21:35,750 --> 00:21:38,110 ceiling cases. Obviously Andrews is also very 415 00:21:38,110 --> 00:21:38,950 good. We've been talking very 416 00:21:38,990 --> 00:21:43,270 favorably about him on recent shows, but it it kind of 417 00:21:43,270 --> 00:21:46,910 requires a down, a down season for those two, but I think pits 418 00:21:46,910 --> 00:21:48,950 right behind them as far as ceiling cases. 419 00:21:54,110 --> 00:21:58,510 Yeah, I mean, Pitts, he had a lot of really kind of hopeful 420 00:21:58,510 --> 00:22:01,510 stuff in his profile. He he missed a lot of there was 421 00:22:01,510 --> 00:22:03,890 like. High percentage of his deep 422 00:22:03,890 --> 00:22:08,250 targets were uncatchable which has been that's something I'm 423 00:22:08,570 --> 00:22:12,690 citing badly from various people putting out on Twitter so I 424 00:22:12,690 --> 00:22:16,810 don't remember the exact percentage but he had a really 425 00:22:16,810 --> 00:22:22,010 high targets per route run 26 1/2% that's that's awesome. 426 00:22:22,490 --> 00:22:27,450 You know he is a deep threat. He had a 13.7 a dot last year. 427 00:22:27,450 --> 00:22:30,810 I mean, that's high for a wide receiver, he. 428 00:22:31,450 --> 00:22:36,850 Spent 34% of his snaps out wide as a rookie, 28% last year. 429 00:22:37,290 --> 00:22:39,010 That's really high for a tight end. 430 00:22:39,730 --> 00:22:43,530 I mean, he's still like he is who we thought he was. 431 00:22:43,530 --> 00:22:46,130 You know he doesn't get open as easily as I was hoping it is 432 00:22:46,130 --> 00:22:48,090 open scored and wasn't that great. 433 00:22:48,090 --> 00:22:51,530 I think he might be more of like a like AT Higginsy type wide 434 00:22:51,530 --> 00:22:56,520 receiver separation might not be like jumpsuit but like with 435 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,080 athleticism and and we're getting tight end eligibility, 436 00:22:59,080 --> 00:22:59,400 right? Yeah. 437 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,040 I mean, if Pete Higgins had tight end eligibility and was on 438 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,240 the phone, I think we'd be pretty jumping over our head. 439 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:09,600 Yeah, yeah, so the the stat per Fantasy points new data suite, 440 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:15,200 which is pretty sweet, so shout to them. 64.9% catchable target 441 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,000 rate for Kyle Pitts. Second lowest among 169 wide 442 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,520 receivers and tight ends with 150 plus routes. 443 00:23:22,390 --> 00:23:25,550 So I mean that's like almost 200 of you know, 150 plus routes. 444 00:23:25,550 --> 00:23:27,790 Not a huge number. Pits obviously didn't run a ton 445 00:23:27,790 --> 00:23:29,510 of routes either. He had the second lowest 446 00:23:29,510 --> 00:23:32,110 catchable target rate, like a full third of his targets were 447 00:23:32,110 --> 00:23:34,310 uncatchable. That's part of why his 448 00:23:34,310 --> 00:23:36,070 efficiency was down. Some of those things. 449 00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:40,470 That's one of the stats and particularly deep targets as you 450 00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:43,750 mentioned, Pat, I think Ian, that's what he does. 451 00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:47,110 It's it's not just to say like, oh you know, his deep targets, 452 00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:49,350 like he is a deep threat. Essentially he's there. 453 00:23:49,350 --> 00:23:51,660 He's their deep threat. Which is also makes him 454 00:23:51,660 --> 00:23:54,340 interesting with Drake London as his counterpart. 455 00:23:54,340 --> 00:23:59,740 Because I'm very high on Drake London I think he like. 456 00:24:00,020 --> 00:24:03,580 I just feel like I don't have to choose, I can just make the bet 457 00:24:03,580 --> 00:24:05,660 on both these guys. They both have awesome profiles, 458 00:24:06,420 --> 00:24:09,500 things can can move my direction in terms of the regression with 459 00:24:09,500 --> 00:24:10,500 the passing plays and everything. 460 00:24:11,060 --> 00:24:15,020 But Drake London I think is more of an intermediate type player. 461 00:24:15,020 --> 00:24:18,500 He had 11.2, a dot. His profile was that he's going 462 00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:21,140 to. Come in and be able to win with 463 00:24:21,140 --> 00:24:23,700 precise route running as a bigger body player in the 464 00:24:23,700 --> 00:24:26,420 intermediate area of the field. Like that was kind of his thing, 465 00:24:27,020 --> 00:24:31,060 like a sort of a possession player with a bit of pop. 466 00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:34,940 I mean, that's like a perfect compliment for Kyle Pitts as a 467 00:24:34,940 --> 00:24:37,580 deep threat. So anyway. 468 00:24:38,300 --> 00:24:40,740 Two, just pulling out of the like the micro stuff on pits cuz 469 00:24:40,740 --> 00:24:43,300 you guys don't have to sell me on him at all. 470 00:24:43,300 --> 00:24:46,460 There like some of those listeners. 471 00:24:47,340 --> 00:24:51,660 One on just last night, the way my pros vs Joes went in like. 472 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,040 At first I was a little hesitant to do the like Andrews thing and 473 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,080 then the way the board came into where I was even like praying 474 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,720 for Dolcech to get to me as like a second tight end. 475 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,760 Like you realize like you really start to sweat some bullets. 476 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,360 As much as we like the late tight ends this year, like 477 00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:08,080 getting even the guys that have some upside. 478 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,240 Like I had my eye on La Porter and he flew off the board a 479 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,400 little earlier. Like tight end drafters start to 480 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,920 get itchy fingers there. And it is. 481 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,980 We get another. Yeah, it did. 482 00:25:17,180 --> 00:25:18,940 It did. If we get another value though, 483 00:25:18,940 --> 00:25:21,500 we could just take a second tight end as well at any time. 484 00:25:21,540 --> 00:25:24,300 That's never precluded from doing too tight. 485 00:25:24,300 --> 00:25:27,980 Will you pull up the percentages at tight end on you have the we 486 00:25:28,020 --> 00:25:29,460 isolate tight end real quick before. 487 00:25:29,460 --> 00:25:31,820 I know we gotta out here pretty quick, but. 488 00:25:32,620 --> 00:25:35,060 Pitch isn't gonna Yeah, you have. 489 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,920 Sub 10% for all the next four or I guess got her to 11 but Kittle 490 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:45,560 1% hit 7% chance Waller 6% got her 11% and then we would be 491 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:51,080 looking then at like Friarmuth. It's more one that you wait for 492 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,200 7-8 on, but if he doesn't make it back to you at 7-8 then 493 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,110 you're like now we're I mean what are we taking in Jokeu? 494 00:25:58,110 --> 00:26:00,270 Maybe he's already gone in the 7th as well, The fact that we 495 00:26:00,270 --> 00:26:02,590 have the long wait until that 7th, because we wouldn't take 496 00:26:02,590 --> 00:26:04,870 for him with that 5-6. I think his eighty piece right 497 00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:07,590 around 7-8. Right, exactly. 498 00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:11,910 This is right before we pick. Is the so we would be reaching 499 00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:15,230 at the 5-6 if we wanted to do tight end or more practically 500 00:26:15,230 --> 00:26:18,230 getting our anchor running back at the 5-6 if we don't go tight 501 00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:22,510 end here. And at which point, I mean we're 502 00:26:22,510 --> 00:26:25,270 still, we're probably still gonna want to take multiple 503 00:26:25,270 --> 00:26:28,510 tight end shots in the rounds 10 to 14 range and also still 504 00:26:28,510 --> 00:26:30,630 needing to build out running back depth in the round 10 to 14 505 00:26:30,750 --> 00:26:34,630 range, you know? I will say, I think I'm still 506 00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:38,310 Metcalf over pits. If we just get that if we get 507 00:26:38,310 --> 00:26:41,590 that value I mean. I I'm at peace with that. 508 00:26:41,590 --> 00:26:43,230 That was kind of, I'm OK with that, the room. 509 00:26:43,230 --> 00:26:48,350 Gifts US42-D K Metcalf which is gonna be pretty abnormal I'm I'm 510 00:26:48,350 --> 00:26:53,220 willing to take that but then. If Metcalf isn't there, like I 511 00:26:53,220 --> 00:26:54,620 think, I just. Wanted to Let's just take this. 512 00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:56,420 Let's just take this for the structural reasons. 513 00:26:56,460 --> 00:26:59,620 It's a huge reach, but for the structural reasons it means we 514 00:26:59,620 --> 00:27:03,060 can avoid tight end if no other values come and hit the running 515 00:27:03,060 --> 00:27:05,780 backs that we need to hit as we start to build this sort of 0 RB 516 00:27:05,780 --> 00:27:08,980 build and the receivers right. Yeah, cuz we don't have really 517 00:27:08,980 --> 00:27:10,620 quarterback either, so it's just helpful. 518 00:27:11,490 --> 00:27:15,330 It's it's not only are I think the other times when we got in 519 00:27:15,330 --> 00:27:19,370 trouble with chasing players up the draft board or whatever, it 520 00:27:19,370 --> 00:27:22,450 was because we were often passing on better players at 521 00:27:22,450 --> 00:27:25,050 other positions just for the structural concern. 522 00:27:25,210 --> 00:27:28,010 But if we have both the structural concern and we think 523 00:27:28,010 --> 00:27:32,330 this is a very flat tier at wide receiver and that these tight 524 00:27:32,330 --> 00:27:35,610 ends totally belong in a tight end premium format alongside 525 00:27:35,610 --> 00:27:39,610 them, I'm fine dancing around a tier for structural purposes. 526 00:27:40,290 --> 00:27:44,850 I mean Pitts in non PP, non tight end premium, I'm looking 527 00:27:44,850 --> 00:27:48,210 at my projections right now. He's like 30 points behind these 528 00:27:48,210 --> 00:27:51,210 guys in tight end premium. I have that number. 529 00:27:51,210 --> 00:27:54,410 Kyle Pitts, I have projected for basically the same numbers. 530 00:27:54,410 --> 00:27:56,650 I mean my projections, projections are what they are, 531 00:27:56,930 --> 00:27:59,330 but basically the same number as Calvin Ridley, basically the 532 00:27:59,330 --> 00:28:01,770 same number as DK Metcalf. They actually have them a little 533 00:28:01,770 --> 00:28:04,810 bit ahead of those two guys, very slightly like five points 534 00:28:04,810 --> 00:28:06,820 ahead of those two being tight in premium. 535 00:28:07,180 --> 00:28:08,740 Now my projection on pets is bullish. 536 00:28:08,740 --> 00:28:13,300 Obviously I'm a pits bull. Shocking, Shocking. 537 00:28:14,220 --> 00:28:16,580 He has a 45% target share in my projections. 538 00:28:16,580 --> 00:28:18,380 But you know. Yeah. 539 00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:21,220 No, I actually have London for more targets. 540 00:28:21,220 --> 00:28:25,540 So it's not like it's not, it's not that crazy bullish, it's, it 541 00:28:25,540 --> 00:28:29,020 is bullish, but because I have those two concentrated, I wrote 542 00:28:29,020 --> 00:28:30,700 a little bit about the RPO stuff. 543 00:28:30,700 --> 00:28:33,100 You're not that bullish on, I mean I would. 544 00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:35,470 Expect that you don't have a ton of passing attempts for the 545 00:28:35,470 --> 00:28:38,230 Falcons, right? No, no, I pits at 118 targets, 546 00:28:38,590 --> 00:28:39,470 let's put it that way. OK, OK. 547 00:28:40,350 --> 00:28:42,430 I mean it's not like in in tight end premium. 548 00:28:42,430 --> 00:28:45,270 And then I just have his his efficiency regress sum a high a 549 00:28:45,270 --> 00:28:47,830 dot right with the highest a dot of any tight end that I 550 00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:49,910 projected. And so then his yards per target 551 00:28:49,910 --> 00:28:52,670 is naturally even though I he's not even close to the highest 552 00:28:52,670 --> 00:28:54,550 yards per target I projected for a tight end. 553 00:28:54,790 --> 00:28:57,270 But the high a dot pulls the yards per target up if he hits 554 00:28:57,270 --> 00:28:59,350 on some of those deep balls. And so I mean, I think it's a 555 00:28:59,350 --> 00:29:03,460 very defensible projection is what I'm getting at 1. 18 556 00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:05,220 targets is a rookie. I think that's incredibly 557 00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:07,380 fensible. It's very defensible and 558 00:29:07,660 --> 00:29:11,820 relative to my my Ridley, DK in this range of receivers, Jerry, 559 00:29:11,820 --> 00:29:13,860 Judy, all these guys are right in that range in my wide 560 00:29:13,860 --> 00:29:16,060 receiver projections. Like I think there's a really 561 00:29:16,060 --> 00:29:20,700 decent case to be made that pits in tight and premium projects, 562 00:29:21,220 --> 00:29:23,660 you know, to the point of it being a flat tier projects the 563 00:29:23,660 --> 00:29:25,780 same as these guys. Then he adds A structural 564 00:29:25,780 --> 00:29:27,500 advantage because he feels tight end, right? 565 00:29:28,460 --> 00:29:31,980 Yeah. Alright guys, I have to run. 566 00:29:31,980 --> 00:29:36,700 Obviously we are going to huddle personally before we submit this 567 00:29:36,700 --> 00:29:39,180 next pick, but I'm guessing next time you hear from us will be 568 00:29:39,180 --> 00:29:42,420 when we're on the clock or close to at 511. 569 00:29:42,580 --> 00:29:46,180 Seems like we are very much on board with DK Metcalf and Kyle 570 00:29:46,180 --> 00:29:47,660 Pitts. I guess this person double 571 00:29:47,660 --> 00:29:49,820 tapping Metcalf and Kyle Pitts with that would be. 572 00:29:50,060 --> 00:29:53,580 That would be a meltdown. Well done 12. 573 00:29:56,510 --> 00:29:59,390 If you're listening to the audio version of these, we do make the 574 00:29:59,390 --> 00:30:01,750 video versions with the draft boards in the road of his 575 00:30:01,750 --> 00:30:04,550 Command center that we're looking at available, as well as 576 00:30:04,550 --> 00:30:08,030 our pretty faces available to YouTube members there. 577 00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:12,750 Otherwise, appreciate you guys falling along in our FFPC Mini 578 00:30:12,750 --> 00:30:14,430 Store series. We'll see you guys next time at 579 00:30:14,430 --> 00:30:15,510 the 5-6 turn.