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We've made it to the end of 
drafting season. 

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This is our last streamed draft 
before we head off to Vegas and 

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we are going out with a doozy. 
We are bringing our friend Mike 

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Leone on. 
We always have a lot of success 

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drafting in these Nosebleed high
stakes leagues with him and 

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tonight we got a 5K league. 
This isn't the main event. 

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This is a self-contained $5000 
buy in league. 

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Alpha plays only. 
That's the theme for tonight. 

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This is ship chasing. 
Let's do it, Pat Fryer, Helmo. 

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This is why. 
This is why I'm hot. 

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Anita hand job. 
Fix your sight. 

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Jamar. 
And. 

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Alpha play Chase. 
You. 

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Can't handle the heat. 
It looks like we're finally at 

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this. 
Point you're right. 

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All right, we are underway. 
CMCCD Lambreece Hall, Mike 

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Leone. 
How we doing buddy? 

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Good. 
I think we've, I think we're 

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three, not the jinx, but we're 
like 3 for three right in our 

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last, I think. 
Yeah, I think so. 

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We. 
We ran away with it year one. 

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We had a miraculous 2nd place 
finish Year 2 on a team that was

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like kind of a disaster. 
And then last year we had the 

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painful. 
We tagged it, got second late 

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last week so. 
Shafter telling us not to play 

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Kenneth Walker and and we, we 
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first place. 
We lost like 85 points in in the

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final week. 
To lose first place something 

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like that it. 
Was. 

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It was. 
Brutal I. 

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Was kind of. 
But we won the most like the. 

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Regular season, we just didn't. 
Win the Sprint, so we. 

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Got stuck in them, even hit me 
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one and then I was like oh it 
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I was in New Orleans for the 
final week and sweating some 

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teams that were really high up 
in like the FFPC, Maine and all 

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that stuff. 
And then I went to the the 

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national semifinal, my Huskies 
the day later. 

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But I remember when I heard 
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hearing about a lot of stuff 
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was kind of in in, you know, in 
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Remember hearing about that. 
And I was like, wait, what? 

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I'm misunderstanding. 
Like there's no fucking way we 

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lost that one. 
Like that one was locked up two 

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weeks ago but we lost. 
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where Jamar Chase would go with 
the potential to maybe miss Week

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1. 
He does go 1/8 here, so a little

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bit of a slide, but nothing 
crazy here fellas. 

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Yeah, that's the top 9. 
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Think that's where I'd take him,
Either 8th or 9th, yeah. 

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Right. 
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Jefferson ahead of him at this 
point, but. 

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This is sick to get the 112 in a
sharp room. 

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I mean, it's not the place you 
want to be. 

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Yeah, we're not going to get any
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of hoped. 
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It was two years ago where we 
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Eckler who we all kind of was 
like, God, are we gonna, are we 

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pulling the trigger here? 
And then we built an awesome 

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team with that pick. 
So I, I trust in our ability to 

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to make do with what's given to 
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We've been, yeah, we've made 
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but non conventional for US 
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And the original alpha play 
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The alpha play team is on the 
corner. 

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Yeah, it was. 
All kind of just talked about 

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for your show being comfortable 
with. 

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So I am puka tight end here I 
think if I'm. 

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I mean Puka McBride sounds 
sounds great to me. 

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Week 17, baby. 
That was that was my lean. 

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Where are you at, Pat? 
Are you in a garage? 

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I mean, I would I, I do have 
Chelsea over McBride, but I 

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don't mind going McBride if you 
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I'm neutral I I am neutral on 
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I would definitely prefer 
another McBride share. 

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I'm McBride Titan 1, so I feel 
pretty good about that take too.

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So I'll, I'll wear that Pat, if 
you want to want to blame me. 

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Later, you could you could let 
me know that I was an idiot. 

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Well, you can blame me. 
We did a truth serum fix. 

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Yeah, we can go ahead and take 
McBride here. 

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I think in especially in Titan 
Premium, like I I'm I'm 

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definitely nervous about 
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you're gonna go in on McBride, 
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potentially is just racking up 
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think how he like if you're 
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hard to me, a big part of that 
is he just like is APR machine. 

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Can you give the? 
But I did give on my Yeah what? 

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I was just a kid to give the 
anti. 

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Why? 
Why are you so nervous about it?

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Well. 
He wasn't that great of a 

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prospect. 
He was he was like solid, but he

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was kind of in like the Friar 
Muthi Cole commet type of range.

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He very inefficient as a rookie,
doesn't earn targets, doesn't 

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pass Eckerds. 
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pass Eckerds either. 
Zackerds gets hurt. 

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He consolidated volume in an 
offense that has really no one 

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else. 
You know, Rondo Moore just got 

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passed by Ray Ray McLeod before 
he got hurt. 

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You know, on the Falcons, 
Michael Wilson did not earn 

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targets as a rookie. 
Greg Dorch barely played. 

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So it's impressive. 
I'm not trying to take it away 

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as as not being impressive 
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And it's a good offensive 
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And you get Kyler Murray, you 
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But they did add Marvin 
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potentially shake things up from
his ability to like, consolidate

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all that volume now. 
I mean, their defense stinks and

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I think they'll play to win. 
So it's not that I don't see 

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like the paths for him. 
I definitely do. 

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And I'm not fading him. 
I'm I've been kind of staying 

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with market on him. 
But I just my truth serum thing 

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was like, are we sure he's 
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really comes down to half a 
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before that season was was 
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little concerned. 
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We're very concerned. 
I would push, I'd push back on 

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that a little because and I, you
and and Sean are two people that

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I trust the most, most on the 
prospect stuff and you guys 

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sometimes have differing 
opinions, but you said he was 

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like a pretty middling prospect.
Sean thought he was a really 

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strong prospect, wanted to 
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of every rookie draft. 
I remember him being really, 

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really high on him pre draft. 
He had a 26% target sprout run 

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as a junior over 30%. 
I mean, it was a senior year, 

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but he had 1100. 
He was a, he was a good as as 

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far as second round rookie pick 
targets go, No push back there 

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whatsoever. 
But just the fact that he was 

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going in the second round of 
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something. 
Wasn't Laporta going in the 

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second round of rookie drafts? 
Laporta was like early second 

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round. 
Yeah, but but but like that was 

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more like mid to late 2nd. 
Yeah. 

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We haven't had a first round guy
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That was a first round rookie. 
I mean those are very rare first

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round tight end prospects in in 
dynasty. 

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Yeah, but McBride was going like
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Pat Fryermouth type range then 
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and Kincaid. 
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Laporta was early 2nd. 
He went like after Mayor. 

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Not to to interrupt this, this 
would have been a nice room to 

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pick from the front and maybe 
start Breeze Bijan and then see 

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all this green in the second 
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Yeah. 
Seriously. 

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Yeah, Since we picked McBride, 
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Barkley. 
I mean, the other thing, it's 

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like, I don't know, can we can 
we hold against Trey McBride 

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that it was only a half a 
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Like Cliff Kingsbury buried his 
best player and then the guy 

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absolutely demolished when he 
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Like how does he even? 
Hold that against. 

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Him. 
So that's true. 

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Yeah, that's true. 
The the the half season thing 

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is, I mean, it was from week 8 
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He had 144 target pace, 112 
catches was right there with 

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like the all time like career 
record for a tight end 1000 + 

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1100 plus yards, two plus yards 
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The Porto was only at 1.75 last 
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He had a meaningfully better 
targets per outrun than Laporta.

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Meaningfully better yards per 
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dot. 
He added efficiency. 

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He's a fucking beast on on film.
If you I like I watch all the 

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games. 
He I promise you that like if 

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you watch him play this year, 
you're gonna be like this dude's

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the best tight end since Gronk. 
Like he's incredible. 

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But setting that aside, the 
numbers weren't just like a 

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decent year. 
And we know that Titans take 

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longer. 
To break out. 

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He had a rough rookie year and 
then he had a legit massive 

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breakout that I think it's, it 
has been understated not by 

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UPAPA, by the market, because 
before week eight, he never 

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played more than 53% of the 
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Excuse me, more than 60%. 
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started and he started every 
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He had started two games prior, 
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was mostly not starting because 
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He started every game. 
He jumped to an 82% snapshare in

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week 8 and never went below. 
I think it's 69% was as low from

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that point forward. 
The snapshare stuff doesn't 

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really matter but the point is 
like there's a clear delineation

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when you look at it. 
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Percent. 
He was their number one option. 

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He was their passing. 
Plus, yeah, and in that stretch 

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where he actually got an 
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time player, he paced for almost
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And like, I understand the 
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competition this and that, but 
he pays for like almost 150 

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targets, like over 110 catches. 
His catch rate has been 75 plus 

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both years. 
People talk about how good his 

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hands are. 
Like you talk about the, the 

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Titan premium stuff. 
You're talking about like I 

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think that's maybe not 
emphasized enough either that he

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was like considered an elite, 
elite hands prospect by film 

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watchers. 
And like, I just think like he's

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going to get volume based on 
what he showed last year to some

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degree and he's going to catch a
really high percentage of it. 

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It's like it's really hard for 
me to see how he doesn't 

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actually have a pretty high 
floor. 

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And then I actually think the 
full season, if you just would 

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have played all of last year, I 
think he would have been going 

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maybe tight end one. 
Like I think people would be 

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going higher on him if you would
have been the full time guy 

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weeks one to seven. 
I just think that that start of 

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the year has, I know the split 
data doesn't really matter that 

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much or there's like reasons not
to buy it. 

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But when we see a like a legit 
role change from a young tight 

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end in year 2 and then he breaks
out and he goes 2 plus yards per

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out run. 
Like I want to look at the split

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data and be like, this is how 
good this guy was on a per game 

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basis, you know? 
Leone it was it. 

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You wanted Kelsey, right? 
Just because he's a little bit 

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older. 
This is how it's going to be 

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remembered as Rush over Rd. 
Rush. 

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Over Rd. 
Leone at the Kelsey McBride 

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page. 
I know I'm not even going to get

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going to get any shade through 
my I was actually. 

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Irritated when you posted your 
BBM exposures, how many rookies 

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you had? 
Really kind of destroying the 

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bit that we built up around 
here. 

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It was enough already. 
In the words of Adam, that's. 

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Right. 
Man we. 

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We, you know, you, you get the 
draft slot you get, but I think 

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we would have been really happy 
with some selections if we're at

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the beginning part of this 
draft. 

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Oh yeah. 
I mean, yeah, so the Bichon 

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drafter gets Olave, Lamb goes 

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ETN, and then the one hole Taxon
cup and neighbors to ACMC start.

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And like someone's getting 
Kincaid in round three, Yeah, I 

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think. 
I don't think I have to spoil 

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that. 
I highly doubt it's messed into 

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312 based on anything we say. 
Yeah, if I ruined that I 

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apologize. 
Well. 

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I doubt it. 
I don't think. 

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There you go. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, that's some. 

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Nice. 
What is the name of this team in

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the three hole here? 
Dream chasers? 

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OK. 
We got Chad picking forth with 

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his usual cocktail. 
Dreams. 

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Dream chasers, The next to 
cocktails and dreams. 

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Yeah. 
Oh, that's funny. 

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Why? 
Why do I see Chris G here did is

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this? 
Is this our Chris G next to this

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dream Chasers G announce 
yourself. 

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Are you in this five Ki? 
See CG on the owner's list. 

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Here, man, that's I mean Chad 
getting going. 

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Bijan Marv. 8 Chan. 
Which one would G be what? 

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What draft slot? 
3. 

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That's got a list. 
It is. 

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I got a list of seven guys and I
think it's going to the list is 

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going to dwindle quite, quite 
fast before we pick. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Paul wants to know. 

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Leonie, you didn't get to weigh 
in much. 

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Was was McBride an alpha play? 
I mean, you, you heard it from 

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Gretch. 
He's on film. 

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The best Titan since Gronkowski.
How does it doesn't get? 

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More alpha play than that, it 
clarifies qualifies. 

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There we. 
Go. 

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There we go, He wasn't on. 
The Yeah, I I like that I'm 

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drafting with you, Gretsch, 
where you have such conviction 

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on McBride, 'cause I'm just 
nerve. 

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The my truth serum was like, I 
don't, I'm not convinced he's 

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like that good. 
Like we've seen mirages at this.

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Position I'm like. 
It's my just like it's more 

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about the. 
With. 

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Harrison or above him in targets
like that would be my true to 

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see him. 
Yeah, the I'm, I'm very 

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skeptical of that, but I would 
like, I would like it we have 

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him. 
I'm perfectly in the middle and 

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I agree with Pat that the tight 
end premium, like I I not to get

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too bogged down on like getting 
too micro. 

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But I I do have McBride as like 
a really big gap between like 

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half PPR scoring and 1 1/2 
points per reception, which I 

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know Gretchen has made some good
points that like we could see 

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the volume plus the efficiency 
with the offense just being 

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better this year, which would be
a huge slam. 

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But I think as a fall back in 
the, the Titan premium scoring, 

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I'd be shocked if we didn't get 
enough volume where he's not at 

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least fine. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, yeah, My floor concerns 
are more kind of like half PPR 

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focused. 
I would say. 

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I I'm more into it for sure in 
in 1 1/2 PPR because I also 

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think it increases his ceiling 
like his floor and ceiling go 

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up. 
I just had this moment as you 

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guys were kind of poking holes 
in that. 

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And you know, I've been very big
on the elite tight ends and the 

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top seven guys and I just had 
this moment where I'm like, I 

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can poke major holes in every 
single one of these guys. 

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Like every single one of it went
from like I could prop all of 

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these guys up on a pedestal and 
feel good taking any of them to 

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like shit every single one of 
these guys could fucking bust. 

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Well, that's the thing about the
Kelsey thing. 

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It's like I feel like the holes 
you can poke in him are really 

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strong. 
I when when Milioni did the 

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projections pods, like I, I 
think I mentioned this probably,

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but I had him the highest of any
of my tight ends in projections 

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because his efficiency is so 
strong. 

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But I feel like his routes are 
like, yeah, that's a bummer. 

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Are like the most fragile. 
Like I was kind of concerned 

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that he they that they talked 
about it after the season. 

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They were definitely limiting 
him. 

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And now they have these good 
young receivers. 

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Like I feel like if he gets any 
bang, you know, Ding this year, 

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they're going to sit him down 
for two weeks and just let him 

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get healthy. 
Like, I've feel like this is the

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year where we're like, all 
right, Kelsey is not playing as 

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much. 
When he's out there, he's good. 

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But like, I don't know, I'd 
rather take the ascending young 

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guy that just had a monster 
season. 

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Yeah, I, I get that, but I think
that's why he goes where he does

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is that everyone kind of has 
that, that nervousness about 

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that. 
Yeah, I, I think he's still 

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Kelsey. 
So any discount on him being 

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still Kelsey? 
I'm I want to take. 

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We are on deck in the second 
round. 

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Neighbors Andrews, Kincaid, A 
Chan, Pacheco, Waddle, Ingram, 

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Rashi Rice. 
Leoni let out a sigh for that 

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one. 
Nico Collins, Brandon Iuke on 

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deck. 
And then we have two picks on 

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the 3/4 turn after Arpuka and 
Trey McBride's start. 

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We're trying to see what the 
Laporta, Jonathan Taylor drafter

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is going to do here at 3:11. 
I think we're going to like our 

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two. 
Picks though, guys. 

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Yeah, yeah, me too. 
I, I mean, as much as I like 

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Iuke in in the full PPRI wasn't 
sad to see him him go or Ingram.

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I think we had sort of pretty 
decided. 

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What are you? 
I'm lagged here a little bit. 

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I mean, Leodi in our group chat 
said I have two wants. 

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Take a tight end at 1-2, Take 
Kyle Pitts anyways, if he's 

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there at 3-4, I mean, we're 
fucking taking Kyle Pitts. 

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We've been. 
Waiting for this. 

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To happen at the. 342. 
Mistake. 

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Pitts, but let's run this. 
Let's use the rest of the other 

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there's. 3. 
Good options and we can talk 

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about it. 
We're not. 

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We're not coming back. 
Nico falls here. 

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Debo falls here. 
Kyron Williams falls here. 

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Nico's gone. 
Nico went OK, I. 

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Missed Kyron Debo, Devante Smith
are the three that I I like. 

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I'd probably go Debo Pitts 
though I think but. 

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I'm gonna get into that or. 
Chiron Pitts. 

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I mean, I'm. 
I'm also open to Chiron, but I 

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I'm completely fine with Debo. 
I'm. 

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Gonna put in Pitts. 
Put in Pitts. 

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Put in Pitts. 
Pat didn't trust me. 

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I was on sticks, buddy. 
I was ready. 

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Who's a bigger alpha play 
between you go? 

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Down to 10, you know. 
Devo, Devo, definitely a bigger 

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alpha play, yeah. 
Debo. 

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Is going to have a nutty season,
but it's hard for me to justify 

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him over Debo. 
The only Kyron Williams thing is

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like this. 
We're not going to like another 

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running back for a. 
Long. 

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Time that's. 
The only other thing are we 

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going zero RB or are we? 
Right. 

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If we don't take Kyron, we 
probably are. 

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We're going 0 but I'm 
comfortable with. 

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That I'm very comfortable with 
it on a. 

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Turn to get Kyron at 4 O one 
that seems I'm. 

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I'm in a self isolated league 
too. 

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It's like right? 
Should we should we just grab? 

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I I broke Kyron at this price 
honestly. 

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I think I'd vote Kyron too. 
What do you guys got? 

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Leona can break it, he said. 
Done. 

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Grocer So we took Derrick Henry.
I I would be OK with Kyron if 

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that's how you guys feel. 
I think I'm Debo over Kyron. 

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But I don't know it's close. 
Do it, do it. 

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Pull the trigger on Debo. 
You're the do it alpha. 

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Play on the all right. 
Oh. 

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Just what has? 
Happened to us. 

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Leonie is the one pushing 
Gretchen I off the run. 

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That's a 0RP. 
Wow. 

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Was that, was that OK? 
Were we OK with Debo? 

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We were. 
Yeah. 

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No, it's an alpha playbo, right?
But don't you get? 

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You get your hands over your 
face and say. 

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Is that OK? 
You got to go alpha play. 

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I'm nervous. 
Beta play. 

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Yeah, beta play. 
Let me. 

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Let me see the jump the shark in
the chat right now for Leonie 

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passing on Kyron. 
Let me see the jump the sharks 

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in the chat. 
Yeah, let's. 

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Go Yeah, we probably should. 
Yeah, it was close. 

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It was definitely very close. 
I like the dito call, I think 

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it's fun. 
Yeah, this is every time I look 

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at Leonie, he's like. 
Jerry's got out of the chat. 

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Kyra the 4th. 
But Leonie here, let's let's 

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let's not let the Debo Chiron 
situation distract us from this 

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Kyle Pitts selection. 
You gave the true serum on the 

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Deposit Kingdom video. 
Kyle Pitts tight in one. 

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You called your shot. 
You wanted him here. 

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Give us the bowl case once more 
on Kyle Pitts. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, it's, it's a pretty 

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straightforward case. 
It's I think maybe the market is

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still underestimating how 
massive of a change it's going 

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to be going from Arthur Smith to
any other coaching staff pretty 

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much. 
And then the upgrade at 

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quarterback 2 is really hard to 
overstate, both in terms of the 

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quality of the targets he's 
going to get, but just the 

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volume. 
I mean, Cousins isn't going to 

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scramble. 
He's not going to take sacks. 

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He's going to Chuck the ball. 
I mean, TJ Hawkinson was going 

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to have like a million catches 
last year if the two of them 

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stayed healthy together. 
Yeah, I and I still think Pitts 

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is really good out. 
The one thing I'm worried about 

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is if I'm giving him too much of
A pass for not being fully 

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healthy last year. 
You know, I get like the tiniest

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bit of like Juju Smith Schuster 
vibes with how I've treated Juju

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in the past in that regard, but.
Yeah. 

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But but yeah, I But if he's as 
good as I think he is, I see no 

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reason why he can't put up 
numbers as good as or better 

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than the tight ends that go in 
front of them. 

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All right. 
Fire me up. 

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Yeah. 
Turn turn back around in support

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of the Debo move. 
And I really like Jay's comment 

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here at 449. 
Be unburdened by what has been. 

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It's already. 
It's already done. 

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That's powerful. 
The Kyron thing, so I, I would 

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have been, I'm totally fine with
Kyron there for sure. 

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I, I did not expect Debo to be 
there and I just really like 

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Debo. 
And I still think, I do think 

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one thing I've tried to be 
cognizant of that I've maybe 

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talked myself out of at times 
this drafting season is, oh, 

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there's going to be receivers I 
like later. 

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So take the running back. 
But we know there's still a 

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reason to take the better wide 
receivers earlier as like that's

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part of the reason that zero RB 
works is that you get the best 

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wide receivers I love. 
That that's something that. 

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When Sean and I did AT0RB, like 
whatever one of the one of the 

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ceiling pinion episodes, talking
through it for people who didn't

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know it very well, that was one 
of the ways we landed on it. 

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I want to say two years ago that
I thought of again this 

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offseason where his take was 
like, it's just like, if you 

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just think about these ranges, 
who's the better football 

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player, right? 
Like I was sitting there going, 

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well, we need Kyron for 
structural reasons, but Debo 

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Samuels way fucking better at 
football than Kyron Williams. 

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Like we should probably just 
draft the guy that's way better 

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at football. 
I do think, yeah, I do think the

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the element that was in was in 
my head, was in my head. 

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There was this being a 
self-contained league, right? 

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A lot of what I get excited 
about the the zero RB is it just

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absolutely supercharging a 
Sprint team where that's that's 

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all that matters. 
Like you just need that team to 

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peak 15 through 17 where we're 
here. 

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A lot else matters leading up to
that. 

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And so that's what I was kind of
weighing. 

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The one thing though, we do get 
a longer runway in the regular 

448
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season, you know what I mean? 
Like we get two more weeks 

449
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because there's not those league
playoffs. 

450
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:40,080
So those two weeks that 
sometimes are super important to

451
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,520
have that RB to, you know, just 
make the league playoffs, be top

452
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,160
four after what, week 12? 
You know, we do get two more 

453
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,880
weeks to sort of hopefully run 
into, you know, a monster team 

454
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,760
with all the anti fragility 
stuff that we talk about at RB. 

455
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,560
Yeah. 
And personally I think Debo is a

456
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,360
lot safer than Kyron that IA. 
100%. 

457
00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:06,560
Kind of goes back to the yeah, 
yeah, it goes to the betting on 

458
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,160
talent point that Gretch made. 
Like you're you're getting the 

459
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,080
much better football player, 
which comes with ceiling and 

460
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,640
four. 
I agree, he for sure safer. 

461
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,480
I think the whole thing, it's 
like if Kyron gives us, you 

462
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,200
know, 85% of what he did last 
year. 

463
00:23:22,120 --> 00:23:24,240
He's a smash. 
Yeah, he he's just an absolute 

464
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,560
smash. 
And then you look at the names, 

465
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,320
right? 
Rashad White comes off the board

466
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,520
2 picks later, Jacobs, Walker, 
James Cook. 

467
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,560
It's like he is he is not in 
this this year. 

468
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,840
He's better than. 
Literally if he's around 85% 

469
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,240
what he did last year, he's like
the RB4. 

470
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,560
Like he's ahead of Jonathan 
Taylor. 

471
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,360
I mean, like we're talking like 
this is a massive discount on 

472
00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:42,600
what he was last year. 
He had a. 

473
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,760
Huge. 
Snap, right one of him and 

474
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,520
McCaffrey were the only dudes 
that were like separated in 

475
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,800
terms of the the snap share and 
being like so dominant on in 

476
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,320
their backfields. 
Obviously Quorum's going to 

477
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,920
change that a little bit this 
year, but I think he's thought 

478
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,960
about an OK, justifiable pick, 
but Debo's obviously extremely 

479
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,200
justified for. 
Sure. 

480
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:05,280
Do we get, you know, some of 
these receivers that at times we

481
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,760
get at the 7-8 turn and at times
we don't, you know, it it it 

482
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,880
could be somewhat frustrating at
that point to be like, oh, you 

483
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,400
know, we're probably going to 
look at the two V2 in day one, 

484
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,680
which we had the Kyron side. 
But for the the course of this 

485
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,840
season, it might end up being, 
you know, obviously the play is 

486
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,760
that we're happier over the 
course of the full season. 

487
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,560
Right. 
Yeah, exactly. 

488
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,920
Yeah. 
And so like I said, since we 

489
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,040
took Debo, the fourth round has 
been DJ Moore, Kyron Williams, 

490
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,480
Devante Smith, Rashad White, 
Michael Pittman, Josh Jacobs, 

491
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,320
Kenneth Walker, Mike Evans, 
James Cook, Alvin Kamara. 

492
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,000
So yeah, the. 
Four O and the height. 

493
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,760
We are not a piss boy Draft 
here. 

494
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,280
This is the most running back 
heavy room we've been in so far 

495
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,920
this year. 
I know, which is now making me 

496
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,800
like it's like so running like 
I'm I don't want to see 

497
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,320
receivers go, but at a certain 
point I'm like, Oh, if if we 

498
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,400
snuck if you snuck Kyron in at 4
O one in a super running back 

499
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:10,080
heavy room, you're like that's. 
Yeah, then things work out. 

500
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,640
Oh, I was just gonna. 
The only Chad is pointing out as

501
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,000
a tiebreaker that Debo was the 
better pun returner. 

502
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,000
Yeah, Did you guys see Blake 
Gorham got? 

503
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,080
Listed as their first team kick 
returner today that. 

504
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,080
Was Are you serious? 
Yeah. 

505
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:27,920
That's exciting. 
The first. 

506
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,840
Returner Blake Gorham's our 
first. 

507
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:36,320
That's an awesome bit. 
You think like Sean McVay and 

508
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,800
Mike McDaniel have a group chat 
where they're just like, you 

509
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,360
want a troll fantasy community 
today or or do I got it? 

510
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,080
They're they're good at it. 
Leonie, I want to ask you your 

511
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,920
take on on Kenneth Walker. 
I know we we would have talked 

512
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,520
about this like a month ago, but
I don't remember necessarily. 

513
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,960
And I've gotten way more into 
him lately. 

514
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,400
And I don't know where you stand
on him. 

515
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,840
I'm just curious because I think
he should be up there with like 

516
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,600
Kyron. 
I really liked Kenneth Walker a 

517
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,000
month ago. 
I'm worried that his ADP has 

518
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,200
risen on a lot of the the coach 
speak where like I like Jacobs 

519
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:13,680
better than Kenneth Walker. 
Probably still, but I do man, I,

520
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,240
I, I have a soft spot for 
Kenneth Walker, which is funny 

521
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,280
because I was so against him in 
dynasty that year. 

522
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,400
But I, I, I really, I still have
visions of him being one of the 

523
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,200
few backs in the league that can
really, you know, break these 

524
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,120
plays from distance and that 
being something that that really

525
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:31,600
matters. 
Yeah, dude, this one hole 

526
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,600
started McCaffrey Cup, neighbors
got Higgins, took McLaren over 

527
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,400
digs. 
Like if that was us, probably 

528
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,000
digs. 
Or at least for me. 

529
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,040
I mean, it's a really nice 
start. 

530
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:43,960
So the running back room is I'm 
definitely. 

531
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,560
Taking digs over Mike Warren. 
That's dude. 

532
00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:48,800
Yes. 
And Chad, I mean, I know you 

533
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,520
guys aren't into Mike Evans, but
Kettle in round 5 is pretty nice

534
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,800
to if you we would have never 
passed on tight end as many 

535
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,400
times as he did, but. 
You could have talked me into 

536
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,880
Evans at that price and I have 
him as a clear fade, but like, 

537
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,240
that's crazy after Michael 
Pittman, that's. 

538
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,760
Real, That's that's about as low
as he goes. 

539
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,360
I mean, I, I project projected 
Tampa's offense to regress a 

540
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:12,800
little bit. 
The market's not super in 

541
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,440
etcetera. 
But one of the things that I did

542
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,240
notice because I do A dot and 
target share and all that is 

543
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,600
when I was looking at my total 
area yards projections, like 

544
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,760
Mike Evans was I think #2 in the
NFL behind maybe like Tyreek or 

545
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,040
Lamb, one of them because like 
he's a high volume guy that also

546
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,880
gets it at a high A dot. 
Like that's that's, that's a 

547
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,400
that's a meaningful thing. 
Like this is the late 4th. 

548
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,280
Like you could get a lot of air 
yards. 

549
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,400
You just got to catch some 
passes, score some touchdowns 

550
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:44,440
too. 
Like it's a good profile Kittle.

551
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,120
Goes then zay. 
We started Puka Trey McBride, 

552
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,360
Kyle Pitts and Devo Samuel here 
in the 5th. 

553
00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:56,240
This is not the FFPC main event.
This is called a 5K Big payback 

554
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,000
self-contained league. 
We're actually going to be 

555
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,160
drafting another one of these in
two or three days. 

556
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,520
Friday I believe we will be in 
Vegas communicating with Leone 

557
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,360
over discord. 
Unless Leone change of heart. 

558
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,640
You want to fly out? 
Do it again. 

559
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,040
This this week is already no, 
no, not making it. 

560
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,840
Bummer. 
Think What if I told you about 

561
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,880
all those ice cream Snickers 
bars that they're going to have 

562
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,440
on hand at the draft? 
I love an ice cream Snickers 

563
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,080
bar. 
You're like you're. 

564
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,240
My. 
Schedule, that's probably the 

565
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,400
biggest selling point so far 
yeah, I mean, I love you guys 

566
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,560
but the Snickers ice cream bar 
that I could get from the store 

567
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,200
but. 
So teammate gets the Mahomes 

568
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,040
double stack with Kelsey and 
Rice, which is pretty fun. 

569
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,800
The Evan Ingram drafter double 
taps tight end takes Ferguson in

570
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:51,640
the fifth round. 
Oh. 

571
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,240
Man this this could become a 
tough pick. 

572
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,200
Tank Dell off the board. 
I definitely would have would 

573
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,160
have had down near the near the 
top. 

574
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,560
Yeah, Tank would have been fun. 
Me too. 

575
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,920
Pretty big spread on these 
Texans wide receivers Nico 39, 

576
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,880
digs 5 three. 
Dell 59. 

577
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,440
That's not his height, folks. 
That's where he went in this 

578
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:31,040
draft. 
I would have pushed her Hertz if

579
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,600
he was there. 
I I have Hertz, his QB one 

580
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,480
overall I would have pushed for 
him I think. 

581
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,400
But even unstacked, I don't 
think the stacking matters with 

582
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,280
his rushing upside and being 
self-contained. 

583
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,520
Leonie, I wish I could screencap
this comment. 

584
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,400
It's perfect. 
I mean, I'm just putting it out 

585
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,800
there. 
It's similar to the Mike Evans 

586
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,600
thing. 
You want another player that he 

587
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,840
just touted? 
It sounds right. 

588
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,680
All right, we are on deck. 
Hertz just went to the A.J. 

589
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,120
Brown team. 
So we. 

590
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:17,320
Get some stacks in here maybe I 
just seen so the the guy that 

591
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,800
Gretch is giving me a hard time 
about but I said I'm already is 

592
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,000
lasting pretty late. 
There he goes. 

593
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:29,840
So I think we all do. 
We do we all like Worthy here? 

594
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,480
Or I know Ben likes Worthy. 
I love worthy here. 

595
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,720
Worthy's great. 
So worthy. 

596
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:43,320
And then it's do we go double 
rookie? 

597
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,360
I do like you'd be quarterback 
going zero RB, but well, I, I 

598
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,560
think Lamar, I don't know I'm I 
could go receiver receiver here 

599
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,120
though, too. 
I wouldn't mind kicking 

600
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,800
quarterback down the can or the 
can down the road a little bit. 

601
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,240
Yeah, I wish we'd down. 
I think double rookie wide 

602
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,880
receiver would be fun. 
So it would be a doonesy and. 

603
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,480
I would be worthy a couple guys 
ahead of a Dean say, but I could

604
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,800
be in on it for sure. 
OK, I've got wordy. 

605
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,960
I'll, I'll, yeah, we want to put
in get. 

606
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,960
Worthy. 
Yeah, let's put in Worthy I. 

607
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,080
I let's just, I got it. 
I got everyone. 

608
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,120
You guys are all pretty out on 
Deonte Johnson, I think. 

609
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,800
I think I'm out on Deonte here. 
I I, I prefer like if we're 

610
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,520
going old, I prefer like 
Christian Kirk and Chris Godwin 

611
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,440
over. 
Deonte, I would. 

612
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,240
I would do Kirk as well. 
I actually kind of like Kirk, I 

613
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,840
think Kirk. 
'S those guys are not anywhere 

614
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,840
close to the target under Deonte
is but. 

615
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,760
We'll just do we want to settle 
on a doomsday then? 

616
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,200
What about JSN? 
No. 

617
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,600
I prefer a doomsday to JSN. 
OK, I pretty strongly prefer 

618
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,720
Doomsday to JSN. 
I'm with Gretch on on JSN, but 

619
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,680
I'm happy to get a doomsday. 
I don't think we've gotten him 

620
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,240
in a while. 
I just think there's probably a 

621
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,480
better chance than JSM last, but
maybe I'm wrong I mean. 

622
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,080
I don't think either's coming 
back. 

623
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,280
Maybe this isn't back either. 
This is a specific type of room,

624
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,320
so maybe. 
All right. 

625
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,400
I mean, I'm Bowers doing that. 
We're OK. 

626
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,520
We're OK with the. 
Yes, yes, it also brings 

627
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,080
closure. 
Powerful play. 

628
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,640
To a ship. 
Chasing. 

629
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,280
Trilogy. 
Jalen McMillan, Jalen Polk, and 

630
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,960
now. 
Roma Doomsday was so clearly the

631
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:52,160
alpha UW. 
I do. 

632
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,800
Think there it is, the Devo pick
in some ways makes it a little 

633
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,120
easier to double tap the rookie 
receivers where you're not as 

634
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,960
concerned about. 
I mean, both these guys were 

635
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,480
kind of expecting to play a good
bit from day one, but just. 

636
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,720
But did you factor in? 
The clip equity because the the 

637
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,200
chat is saying fuck. 
Oh, no, no. 

638
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,600
We just got to make it one more 
show. 

639
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,880
Well, here's the thing. 
I I like to think we have a 

640
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,240
pretty smart audience. 
If you guys didn't put together 

641
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,720
after the Jalen Polk clip with 
all the Huskies theme and then 

642
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,640
the Jalen McMillan, if you guys 
didn't realize that a robe clip 

643
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,280
was coming, I, I can't help you.
I I can't help. 

644
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,560
You on that well, I think they 
did I think they probably 

645
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,360
realized but they also knew we 
might not get a chance to play 

646
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,080
it and. 
If we don't play the curse, 

647
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,520
there's no curse, Yeah. 
I love Aaron, that clip is huge 

648
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,280
for Keenan. 
The the only positive buzz for 

649
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,400
that Keenan. 
All offseason, it's been us. 

650
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:56,720
Playing it as good. 2nd Gretch, 
I like your Keenan take on 

651
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,240
Twitter the other day where I, I
think especially the preseason 

652
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,040
stuff, like he like, he doesn't 
care. 

653
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,080
Like like we're really, I mean, 
I don't there's reasons why he 

654
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,280
could fail because he's an older
possession receiver. 

655
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,920
But yeah, I think this fat 
Keenan stuff and him looking bad

656
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,080
and and a few preseason things 
is just not, not the reason to 

657
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,800
be concerned. 
But we just took him. 

658
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,440
We just took a doomsday over if 
that's the I mean, he was wide 

659
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,639
receiver 3IN points per game 
last year. 

660
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,239
I mean, I think I still have I 
have like steadfastly kept 

661
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,840
Keenan ahead of a doomsday. 
I love a doomsday. 

662
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,719
But if you think that like, 
isn't he the pick there? 

663
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,560
I mean, we didn't really talk 
about Keenan at all. 

664
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:40,760
Yeah, we didn't. 
That wasn't that. 

665
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,440
Wasn't brought up well. 
Because there was a it was we 

666
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,080
were arguing about which old we 
would take and then the IT 

667
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,520
sounds like the one old there 
was a consensus on although we 

668
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,520
we have so much Keenan Allen 
this year already. 

669
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,440
I'm. 
Fine too. 

670
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:54,199
Yeah, we. 
Do it. 

671
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,320
It was fun. 
It was much more fun to take a 

672
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,640
doomsday. 
We also. 

673
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,720
It's funny though, that like we 
all had an old ahead of the 

674
00:35:01,720 --> 00:35:05,560
doomsday. 
It's just we, we can like we can

675
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,600
agree on the the younger player,
but the old player is like, 

676
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,800
right When you don't like the 
old player, you're like, really,

677
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,520
Yeah. 
Exactly. 

678
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,200
That guy. 
But like I said, Deonte and. 

679
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,920
You're like in on Deonte. 
And I'm like, I'm like Deonte. 

680
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,360
I've got like like 12 guys out 
of him. 

681
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,160
And then you felt the same thing
with Kirk, you know? 

682
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,800
Yeah. 
Well, that's why that's the 

683
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,160
perfect way of putting it. 
It's like you have the everyone 

684
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,000
has the one old that they that 
they're OK with in that spot, 

685
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,680
but no one wants any of the 
other olds. 

686
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,600
The turn just puts you in those 
spots, right where it's like if 

687
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,360
we were in the middle part of 
the board, the room would have 

688
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,160
probably decided for us worthy 
of roam. 

689
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,560
And then you feel like you're 
getting a value and I don't 

690
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,640
know, the decisions just are 
that second pick on the turn is 

691
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,320
always hard. 
The hard part the only in the 

692
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,920
Rome was not coming back, but 
there might be some other young 

693
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,120
receivers at 7A and we might be 
like, you know, should we have 

694
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,920
taken a Kirk or Deonte in some 
ways are comparable in terms of 

695
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,600
like they should both be very 
high floor PPR guys, right? 

696
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,360
Like, should we have taken one 
of those guys knowing that we'll

697
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:15,320
have worthy and a second or even
a second and a third wide 

698
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:20,280
receiver at at 7A in in the 
young breakout? 

699
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:26,480
Archetype yeah, I mean you can 
also flip it the other way and 

700
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,800
be like, if you take so many 
cracks at just the highest 

701
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,080
upside swings like you're you're
going to be really happy if like

702
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,920
roamer Xavier worthy and we all 
think they have the potential to

703
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,400
be like a top 12 wide receiver 
by the end of the season, like 

704
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,240
they have that within their 
range of outcomes. 

705
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:43,440
So it's like, just stack a bunch
of those and then know you're 

706
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,400
going to be good that way too. 
Yeah, and with the Debo pick, I 

707
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,320
mean, we are already into our 
bench, which you know is fine 

708
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:55,040
and maybe more reason to even 
just keep swinging on the 

709
00:36:55,040 --> 00:37:06,360
breakout of the younger players.
So we start Puka, Tram, McBride,

710
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,720
Kyle Pitts, Debo, Samuel, 
Xavier, Worthy, Rome. 

711
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:12,320
After we pick Rome Deonte comes 
off the board, then Bowers goes 

712
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,120
to a team as their first tight 
end. 

713
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,760
Lamar comes off the board in the
6th. 

714
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,800
Then Pickens, Ridley, James 
Conner to a drafter who went 

715
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,040
Jacob's mixing Connor the past 
three rounds, Najoku off the 

716
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,640
board, Godwin to Chad's team 
there, and then Romandre as we 

717
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:44,120
wrap up the 6th, 
Aaron Jones to the Josh Allen 

718
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,480
drafter. 
And now we'll see what the one 

719
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,400
hole does. 
They're the team that started 

720
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:56,870
CMC Cup neighbors. 
Higgins, Mclaurin, definitely. 

721
00:37:58,110 --> 00:38:00,310
What's the next tight end off 
the board here? 

722
00:38:00,430 --> 00:38:02,030
Now you're into Goddard 
territory. 

723
00:38:02,670 --> 00:38:05,190
Yeah, yeah. 
That's where like as much I love

724
00:38:05,190 --> 00:38:08,150
the breakout potential for for 
Bowers and I think in joke who's

725
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:14,320
solid, I just think, you know, 
McBride and Pitts where they 

726
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,200
went are much better picks 
relative to the wide receivers 

727
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,960
than Bowers and and and Joe who 
are. 

728
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,080
We've never even gotten close to
Pitts dropping to the the 3-12 

729
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,640
when we're on that side of the 
board, so that was very fun. 

730
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,000
Every single time we've been on,
it's like Pitts goes where 

731
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,320
Kincaid went. 
Every, I had a a series of 

732
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,320
drafts where he I was either the
end of the draft and he didn't 

733
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,120
make it back to that 312, or 
there were times where like I 

734
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,680
didn't take him at the 2-3 turn 
and then he made it to like 4-5 

735
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,320
and I'm like, God, yeah, 
kidding. 

736
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:58,920
Yeah. 
And again, that's that's a turn 

737
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,760
dynamic too, where it's like it,
it's a little harder to read the

738
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,040
room in the positional runs. 
But the way FFPC scoring works 

739
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,000
in the early rounds especially, 
it's so hard to get a read on 

740
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,600
what a team's going to do 
positionally. 

741
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,320
Like they can literally justify 
any position other than maybe 

742
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,160
their second quarterback. 
You know, like everything else 

743
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:23,800
is always fair game. 
There's, I mean, I think we're 

744
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,040
going to like this turn again, 
you know? 

745
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,520
Yeah, yeah. 
We're just going to have to 

746
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:38,120
figure out. 
We definitely have, like lots 

747
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,800
of, you know, Kyler went off the
board. 

748
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,120
If there was a chance he fell 
all the way back to us with 

749
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,840
McBride, I think that could have
been fun. 

750
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,200
But. 
He'd be very fun. 

751
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,640
Do we have? 
I don't think we have a Kyler. 

752
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,960
Share in high stakes this year, 
do we? 

753
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:54,920
I don't think so. 
I don't. 

754
00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:01,280
Think we've we've landed on him.
Kyler is that I don't have Kyler

755
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,200
and much redraft stuff. 
I I like him. 

756
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,840
He just, he really steamed 
quickly. 

757
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,320
Yeah, he did. 
Like early in the offseason, 

758
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,440
then he kind of, he never really
came back down, which you know, 

759
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:16,840
he's probably fine where he 
goes. 

760
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:22,240
It just, I'm actually kind of 
surprised positionally where he 

761
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:24,880
went in this draft, not 
necessarily overall, but. 

762
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:31,440
Yeah. 
Chad goes Javonte to add to an 8

763
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:41,920
Chan in Bijan room. 
Yeah, only, only a couple wide 

764
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,520
receivers off the board in these
past 8 picks. 

765
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:05,080
If you guys missed it earlier. 
Oh, Kirk goes, yeah, yeah, 

766
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,800
that's quite the slide there. 
Leon, you're still in on Kirk, 

767
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,120
it sounds like. 
Yeah. 

768
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,400
I mean, I was in on him last 
year and he basically did with 

769
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,760
the offense not playing that 
well, Lawrence not doing that 

770
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,640
great. 
He basically did he he was 

771
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,120
totally fine for for where he 
went last year. 

772
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,480
And I think this year it's sort 
of the same case, except I think

773
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,520
the offense could be better or 
should be better. 

774
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,360
I do think we'll still stuff, 
yeah, we'll see. 

775
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,000
The slot stuff is still going to
be a a thing, but. 

776
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,280
But I think it's overblown like 
he he played in ton in the slot 

777
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,480
last year and he he he is 
actually a pretty decent target 

778
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,960
earner. 
So, you know, if he has like 80%

779
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:53,880
round participation, I think 
it's OK. 

780
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:54,880
You're, you're betting on the 
offense. 

781
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,800
Take a step forward. 
Leonie, I I know you guys just 

782
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,360
dropped your first batch of of 
week 1 DFS projections. 

783
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,400
Did did any Week 1 projections 
surprise you? 

784
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,360
Maybe with some of these top 
guys who have already gone off 

785
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:14,840
the board? 
You know, our Jonathan Tower 

786
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,000
projection feels really light 
and I'm having a hard time 

787
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:24,560
getting it higher. 
That's that was kind of 

788
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,080
surprising me, but I've been 
like so scrambling just on 

789
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,680
inputs that I haven't like 
totally digested the output. 

790
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,800
I just remember seeing that it 
is funny week 1, you see some of

791
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,440
these dustier guys that we're 
afraid of in redraft like Rashad

792
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:44,320
White, Alvin Kamara projecting 
with the guys that we really 

793
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,760
like, you know, for a one week 
thing. 

794
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,760
So it's it's an immediate mind 
shift when you get into DFS for 

795
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,360
one week. 
I mean Camara, Like who's 

796
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,560
stealing touches from Camara 
week 1? 

797
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,200
Right. 
No one. 

798
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:04,000
Yeah, and Keenan 7/7. 
Keenan falls to seven. 7. 

799
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,760
I'm, yeah, I'm, I'm excited 
about this turn there. 

800
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,360
There's some really good players
still available. 

801
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:26,320
Yeah, there's, there's, there's 
a lot of good. 

802
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,520
Players, the question is, is 
like, dude, are we making room 

803
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:36,160
for a running back here because.
I almost think we're not, but I 

804
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,800
could be There's one that me and
Gretch both like there's there's

805
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,800
two that I think are pretty 
solid options. 

806
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,120
One of one of my. 
Favorites is still on the board,

807
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,560
too. 
There's just so many. 

808
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,120
This is going to be this is 
going to be a tough turn. 

809
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,520
It's a really tough turn. 
There's like 3 different 

810
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,920
positions we could go for sure 
that we're Keenan talk through. 

811
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,960
Then Naji, then Jalen Warren, 
then JSN did go. 

812
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,400
I was, I was kind of crossing my
fingers seeing if he would come 

813
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,000
all. 
The way back he almost like, 

814
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,440
yeah, I mean that was that was 
very close. 

815
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,960
There's a couple of questions we
like. 

816
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,480
You mentioned the running back, 
I mean QB. 

817
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,200
To me, that in a self-contained 
league on stack makes sense here

818
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,560
too. 
And I think I I don't know my 

819
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,120
vote in. 
Zero RB in zero RB that you kind

820
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,240
of want some high end 
quarterback upside as well. 

821
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:31,320
So it's it's a lot of paths 
here. 

822
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,200
This guy going to time out and 
get our their quarterback. 

823
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,480
That we want. 
So you got the running back. 

824
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:42,080
So I would be Stroud and 
probably Jayden Reid, but I 

825
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,480
really like. 
Brian Thomas too. 

826
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,040
Reid. 
Reid was mine. 

827
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,840
I love Jane Reid, so having him 
all the way back here, I think 

828
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,200
Reid, really. 
Fits the build. 

829
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,160
I think Reid's a great pick. 
I think we're in unison on that.

830
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,360
You're even even liking Thomas. 
You're OK passing him here, 

831
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,280
Leonie? 
Because to me, I like against 

832
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:01,080
Stroud. 
I love. 

833
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:06,440
Thomas But Jayden Reid is, I 
mean, yeah, I mean, this is just

834
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,320
a great, great spot. 
For you, this is a great spot. 

835
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,320
For Reed for sure. 
But in underdog, Jayden Reed is 

836
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,280
like a a full round round and a 
half earlier. 

837
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,120
Let's just can we 1st and let 
this bleed. 

838
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,760
I've got yeah, I've got him 
first I'll click it with like 2 

839
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,840
seconds left just. 
Do you guys have any interest in

840
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,720
not this quarterback, but doing 
the stack? 

841
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,840
Well, I was going to say, but do
we use this to to push QB 

842
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,600
knowing there's a lot of that 
have already gone? 

843
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:41,880
My take here is I think Stroud 
could be could really separate 

844
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,880
from the remaining quarterbacks 
and since we've gone 0 RB that 

845
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:53,560
it's OK to take the luxury pick.
We could take Brian Thomas and 

846
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,600
just closeout receiver, or we 
could take there's one running 

847
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,160
back that I kind of like that we
could take, but I'd almost 

848
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,240
rather just go 0 RB at this 
point. 

849
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,080
I, I, I like it. 
Let's let's do the let's do the 

850
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,840
quarterback and beat everyone 
everywhere else. 

851
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,680
Are you OK with that? 
Yeah. 

852
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,840
It's a 12 team league move for 
sure. 

853
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,200
Unstacked, but I mean CJ Stroud 
at this point is. 

854
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:23,680
It's also, I mean, this is like 
very minor scoring thing, but it

855
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,080
is one point for 20 yards 
passing, not 25, which is good 

856
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,640
for Stroud. 
Yeah, obviously. 

857
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,880
Yeah. 
And I we are, there is going to 

858
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,840
be like a very good quarterback 
value in round 11 and that we're

859
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,880
going to be annoyed by. 
But I think that's where you 

860
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:43,320
just have faith that you you've 
built in the Stroud going nuts 

861
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,680
and then you can still win and 
it's not an overall contest. 

862
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,720
Stroud can go nuts and we don't 
have the receiver. 

863
00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:50,120
It doesn't. 
We're we're stacked at pass 

864
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,440
catcher like we're not, you 
know, it's not like we're dead 

865
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,600
because Stroud goes nuts and we.
Don't. 

866
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,680
And if anything, like there's 
definitely possibilities where 

867
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,320
that offense kind of plays out 
like the the Niners, right? 

868
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,640
Where you're taking some pretty 
low scores from some of your 

869
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,520
receivers each week because you 
know one of them's going off for

870
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,440
the insane game. 
And it's kind of a merry go 

871
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,880
round of sorts where you're just
happy to have all of the 

872
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,560
production through Stroud and 
not even deal with the managed 

873
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,000
start sets. 
Don't get me wrong, I'm very 

874
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,840
happy to have those Texans in my
lineup, but I there's lots of 

875
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,640
ways where playing it through 
Stroud works out very nicely. 

876
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,800
I'm curious who the running back
was. 

877
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,880
Will you put it in the? 
The Chase Brown was the guy that

878
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,520
I was thinking of. 
That's who I was thinking too. 

879
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,600
And Pat, I think would have been
out at this price, right, Pat? 

880
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:40,960
So. 
I Yeah. 

881
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:42,640
I definitely, especially with 
Brian. 

882
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,040
Thomas or something? 
Fun. 

883
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,840
Brian Thomas. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

884
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,880
He's the one. 
Part of why I was leaning over 

885
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,800
Stroud is I felt like we weren't
going to probably line up on the

886
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,520
run. 
That would have been my running 

887
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:53,560
back. 
I was curious if it was yours, 

888
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:59,160
Danny. 
Knock on wood, I wonder if we 

889
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,880
see the room light up at running
back now and we actually like 

890
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,040
end up OK here at I mean, we're 
going to be OK no matter what, 

891
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,320
but but there's there's a couple
guys where we'd be like. 

892
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,240
I don't know if they're gonna 
come back. 

893
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,080
Dude, I mean these guys could 
start. 4 running backs and 

894
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,720
they're gonna take. 
No, I know. 

895
00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:21,640
I'm just saying there's a chance
we run. 

896
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,560
Never underestimate how many 
running backs FFPC drafters will

897
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:25,840
draft. 
That's the thing that Crane 

898
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,280
taught me, like the first time I
came. 

899
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,560
Came over. 
To ship chasing years ago, you 

900
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,520
guys both probably Pat and Pete,
you guys were like never 

901
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,400
underestimate. 
We learned that lesson. 

902
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,280
Yeah, we. 
The second you think they're 

903
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,240
done. 
It's a hard earned lesson. 

904
00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:37,960
It's. 
Going to keep going. 

905
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,720
It's been proven over and over 
again time and again. 

906
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,480
Well, when? 
You when you get your heart 

907
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,920
ripped out hoping Darwin 
Thompson falls to the 8th, you 

908
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:51,800
know it's it's gone too far. 
But hey, we got Justice Hill, 

909
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,560
man. 
It's honestly incredible, like 

910
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,080
similar whenever I see Mike 
Evanson, like the fact that he's

911
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,200
been doing this since 2014, the 
fact that Justice Hill is still 

912
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,120
kicking around in draftable 
considering that was a a target 

913
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,160
when he was a rookie for us 
however many years ago. 

914
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:12,160
I often think about that and I'm
like in in like I got caught up 

915
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,840
in it and I'm like, in 
hindsight, I'm like, what were 

916
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,560
the odds that play would work 
out? 

917
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,560
Not because it was a bit, not 
that it was a bad pick, but the 

918
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,280
odds that that play, that rookie
year will workout had to be like

919
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,400
20%, you know what I mean? 
In my head it was about 8085. 

920
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,920
Percent, dude, I'm with you. 
But it's funny to like, we get 

921
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,920
so attached to these guys and 
it's like the probabilities are 

922
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:41,160
pretty low, you know? 
Right, dude, this. 

923
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,600
There's a dude in chat that's 
having a rough show. 

924
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:47,440
Do I need? 
I've been. 

925
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:49,880
I think you can put him in time 
out at this point. 

926
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:50,800
The rest of the what's? 
His name? 

927
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,760
Who's having a tough? 
Night or something he's been. 

928
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,720
Having yeah, I've actually seen 
yeah, bye dude. 

929
00:49:56,720 --> 00:49:58,840
We don't. 
We don't need to deal with. 

930
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,600
Several other chats or other 
commenters are like this. 

931
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,080
Is This is why this is enough? 
Enough is enough. 

932
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:11,280
It is fun that we finally year 4
done AS0RD team right? 

933
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,960
I mean, this is our first. 1st. 
We took year 1. 

934
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:20,080
We took that was like the swift 
gun thing or it was like maybe 

935
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,000
murdered somebody, but that was 
completely false. 

936
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,800
And we got him at like 4-5 and 
we took JT at 1-2. 

937
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,080
Then we had the Eckler Breece 
Hall. 

938
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,080
I think we took Breece Hall two 
years in a row. 

939
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,040
We did, I don't know. 
We had, we had Kenneth Walker 

940
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,440
last year in some capacity with 
I think at another early running

941
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:40,880
back. 
We definitely got Breece Hall 

942
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,600
last year. 
I think we got pretty called two

943
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,280
years in a row, I'm pretty sure.
Well. 

944
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,840
We no, we had TMC. 
Last year that was the the. 

945
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:50,520
Hard. 
Oh, we had CMC. 

946
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,600
OK. 
Yeah, it was Breeze 2. 

947
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,560
I think it was Eckler and Breeze
two years ago. 

948
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,000
So we've had two running backs 
through round five each of the 

949
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,040
first three years. 
Yeah. 

950
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,040
Which has worked well. 
And so we decided to to pivot 

951
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,280
but. 
But we decided you're going to 

952
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,880
give us a four one Kyron we're. 
Going to smack it away. 

953
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,120
That's exactly the play that has
helped helped us in the past. 

954
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,160
But no, I think The thing is 
that we have also been flexible 

955
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,280
with our strategy in a really 
sharp way throughout. 

956
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,400
And I think we're doing that 
well right now. 

957
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:24,640
I mean, I think our team's 
strong. 

958
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,040
Well, our starting lineup is 
going to be good, other than the

959
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,080
running backs, obviously, which 
matters, but. 

960
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,960
So. 
The format is it is 12 weeks 

961
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,120
still and then a three-week 
Sprint for four teams. 

962
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:40,160
Is that right top? 
12 it's I think it's, it's 14 

963
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,200
weeks, it's. 
Later. 

964
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:42,920
The Sprint is later. 
Because there's no league 

965
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,200
playoffs, so we actually have 
more time to like get our 

966
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,640
running backs and. 
Then I'll be able to just finish

967
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,760
top four. 
We'd like to win it because 

968
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,440
there's probably a little prize 
in the 14 week. 

969
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:56,360
So I think 6 out of 12 teams 
make the playoffs and then two 

970
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,280
get eliminated and then there's 
a two week Sprint with the final

971
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,640
four teams, I believe. 
I mean, things we should 

972
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,560
probably know, yeah. 
For sure I and I'm just asking 

973
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,040
questions because I didn't. 
Bother to look. 

974
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,840
OK, yeah, Six teams, six teams 
advance to the league playoffs 

975
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,440
after Week 14. 
The three division winners and 

976
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,520
three teams with the most 
victory points, which is like, 

977
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:21,920
you know, they do victory 
points, which is. 

978
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,640
Like this is head to head. 
Half had to had half yeah points

979
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:31,480
and then the top 2 seeds get a 
week 15 by and then week 15 is 

980
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:36,720
you have to finish top two out 
of four to advance and then week

981
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:40,760
16 to 17 is just all four teams 
versus each other week 16 and 

982
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,040
17. 
OK. 

983
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,120
So it's pretty cool. 
Is there a? 

984
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,880
Prize for like winning the byes 
or anything like that Regular. 

985
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:56,280
Seed, I mean get the actual 
prizes so you get 5K which is 

986
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,320
the entry fee if you're off 
first or second seed. 

987
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:05,560
And then the league playoffs is 
25 K to 1st, 14K to 2nd and 5K 

988
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,160
to 3rd. 
OK. 

989
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,960
So you so. 
We just get in top six and then 

990
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,720
make it to the final four and 
then finish top three. 

991
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:22,880
Top 2 wouldn't win it. 
It actually is top two win. 

992
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:23,240
It, win. 
It. 

993
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:24,880
This is top two win. 
It win. 

994
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,000
It they're kind of. 
It if you get the one or two 

995
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,640
seed, you're guaranteed 5K and 
then you've got like a three and

996
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:36,800
four chance at another prize. 
So like a top seed is obviously,

997
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,320
I mean it's always good, but 
it's definitely very good. 

998
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,920
All right, so since we took 
Stroud, Chase Brown, went 

999
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,760
Courtland Sutton, Brian Thomas, 
Christian Watson, Jerome Ford, 

1000
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,800
Zamir White, TJ Hawkinson, Tony 
Pollard, Keyon Coleman, Khalil 

1001
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:54,600
Shakur, Devin Singletary, Jordan
Addison, Joshua Palmer, finally 

1002
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,560
have a little bit of a wide 
receiver run here. 

1003
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,680
There's one wide receiver on the
board that like, I kind of hope 

1004
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,960
goes, but he's out. 
One of the. 

1005
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,000
I feel you. 
Things that has happened with a 

1006
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,560
lot of our drafts as well when 
we're in the middle of the round

1007
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,120
is these rooms are a little 
different and we're we're used 

1008
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,280
to, you know a different style 
of play and I think we're able 

1009
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,760
to take some what we would 
consider values. 

1010
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,320
I'm not saying that the the room
is wrong necessarily, but 

1011
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,520
certainly values to us in it in 
this room. 

1012
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,440
It's a little tricky being at 
the 12 man. 

1013
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,800
Like we've had some, we've had 
some near misses on some guys 

1014
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,840
that that almost made it all the
way back to us that we would 

1015
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,840
have liked. 
I mean, we also got Kyron sent 

1016
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,760
all the way to us and just threw
that away. 

1017
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,800
But there's, there's some stuff 
where if we were even just at 

1018
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,400
like 9, you know, things like 
Dell went five O 9, JSN went 

1019
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,600
seven O 10, you know, 710, Nico 
went three O 9. 

1020
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,680
There's some things in some 
spots that would like, I don't 

1021
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,160
know if we would have taken Nico
even or, or any of those guys 

1022
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,400
necessarily, but we haven't 
quite been able to to capitalize

1023
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,560
in some spots. 
I do think with the Chyron 

1024
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,720
thing, like I've been taking 
Debo over Chyron all summer, 

1025
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,440
like not even really thinking 
hard about that. 

1026
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,360
Like that's it's just to me that
Debo was there. 

1027
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,040
Like Debo being there made him 
to pick in my opinion. 

1028
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,760
I I think in a way like, yeah, 
we would have gotten a great 

1029
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,600
deal on Kyron, but we would have
thrown away a great deal on Debo

1030
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,720
too. 
I agree. 

1031
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:22,160
We when we were at 33, there 
were like 7 or 8 guys and I'm 

1032
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,840
like they're probably all going 
to go and then there ended up 

1033
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,960
being like 4 guys there for us 
to pick from. 

1034
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,600
Yeah, it and basically what it 
kind of goes down to is the 

1035
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,560
luxury pick thing because if we 
go Chyron there, we're we're 

1036
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,160
taking probably Jane Reed and 
Brian Thomas and not doing the 

1037
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,360
Stroud thing. 
So then you're kind of looking 

1038
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,720
at do you like the, the, the 
Debo Stroud or like the Chyron 

1039
00:55:43,720 --> 00:55:49,320
BTX quarterback is kind of how 
it would shake out versus 

1040
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,800
whatever running back we take 
here? 

1041
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,920
We are like on razor's edge of 
like maybe partying or maybe 

1042
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:03,320
being super sad. 
Like they could just go. 

1043
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,680
Was Vlad? 
Was Vlad the wide receiver you 

1044
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,600
guys were talking about? 
Yeah, that was the one that I 

1045
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,600
was like, if he lasted, that'd 
be crazy. 

1046
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,040
We probably have to take him, 
but I kind of hope he goes. 

1047
00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:21,600
Yeah, there we go. 
There we go. 

1048
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,280
Even though I like him. 
Yeah. 

1049
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,240
I was going to say like, he's 
he's kind of crazy at this 

1050
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:31,200
point. 
So is I mean Chiefs wide 

1051
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,320
receiver that has fallen so much
like. 

1052
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,240
There's two, there's two 
receivers that I think are are 

1053
00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:39,960
very. 
It's absurd how far Hollywood 

1054
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,440
Brown falls at this point. 
It is. 

1055
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,800
It is to me, absolute nonsense. 
I don't even like him. 

1056
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,080
I. 
Don't know if you're trying to 

1057
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,800
tempt the the room in to take 
him so we. 

1058
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:51,320
I am. 
I don't want to have to take 

1059
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:52,760
him. 
He need running backs. 

1060
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:57,000
I should also mention I made an 
executive decision to flip the 

1061
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,320
chat to members only there. 
I wanted to actually get to 

1062
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,320
enjoy some of the chats from our
our ship chasing community who 

1063
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:07,920
always have fun and smart 
insights and not the cesspool 

1064
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,520
that was forming. 
So members only comments the 

1065
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,560
rest of the way here. 
That was that was one of the 

1066
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:14,680
backs that would have been 
pretty nice. 

1067
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,280
Zach Moss goes. 
Not what have been. 

1068
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,320
Daniels. 
I would have been on that. 

1069
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,080
There's still like we're We 
might have a tough decision, 

1070
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,400
we're gonna have a tough 
decision to make. 

1071
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:27,600
I don't know. 
Either our hand's gonna be 

1072
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,960
completely forced and we're 
gonna begrudgingly make a pick, 

1073
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,760
or we're gonna be. 
Goes. 

1074
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,040
Yeah. 
I was hoping for that. 

1075
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:36,800
Damn. 
I mean, The thing is, is we are 

1076
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,080
actually, this is what kills. 
We're on the side of the board 

1077
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,040
now where a lot of people hadn't
taken running backs, you know, 

1078
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,920
in the 9 and the 10 hole. 
It was on the other side where, 

1079
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,640
you know, Chad double taps 
Pollard and Spears as his 

1080
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:52,040
running back four and five. 
Team 2 has four running backs. 

1081
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,000
God, there's there's one running
back. 

1082
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,400
I think that'd be like 
particularly good for our build,

1083
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:10,160
but but there's two receivers 
too that like probably shouldn't

1084
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,080
be here. 
I mean, I don't know, maybe we 

1085
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,600
might disagree on the second. 
I know who you. 

1086
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,480
It's not who you think it is, I 
think. 

1087
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:28,080
Jordan Love is a nice value 
here. 

1088
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,000
OK, OK. 
Dalton Schultz goes. 

1089
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:32,920
And get your quarterback slash 
tastic. 

1090
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,640
We'll double tap quarterback if 
we have to. 

1091
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:35,440
Don't force our. 
Hands. 

1092
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,960
Oh, we'll starve the beast, 
we'll starve it. 

1093
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,840
Get ready to learn, Sam Darnold.
But if you don't grab a 

1094
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:49,680
quarterback here, so we're we 
are on deck. 

1095
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,840
We got Stroud, we got our five 
wide receivers here, Puka, Debo,

1096
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,440
Xavier, Worthy, Rome and Reed, 
and we got our two tight ends, 

1097
00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:05,480
Trey McBride and Kyle Pitts. 
The question is, do you know if 

1098
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,640
he's there to do we take 
Hollywood or do we just set pass

1099
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,840
on the value? 
And and I do think we're going 

1100
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,720
to see a big drop off in running
back after this, but. 

1101
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,840
I think we should probably grab 
the running backs at this point,

1102
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,680
yeah. 
So Gus Edward goes. 

1103
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,320
Who's the running back you want?
I I like Rico. 

1104
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,080
I like Rico and Quorum. 
I do that, yeah. 

1105
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,520
I'm, I'm, I'm all the way back 
in on Rico. 

1106
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,960
The the news lately has been 
exactly what you want to hear. 

1107
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:42,400
So. 
Core I I'm down with Rico. 15 

1108
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,160
running backs down right now I'd
be Quorum Jaleel, but that's 

1109
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,880
fine. 
Let's let's try not to mention 

1110
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:53,960
running backs that we aren't 
going to take in case they come 

1111
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,840
back. 
I of course one on a team where 

1112
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,040
you passed on Kyra too. 
I know where you passed on, 

1113
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,280
Kyra. 
I kind of like that. 

1114
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:08,080
I know I think is grouch has 
been not voted on Rico. 

1115
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:09,320
I'm not. 
I don't want to be like. 

1116
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,240
I have, I have. 
I'm not voted on it. 

1117
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:12,800
I think it's AI think. 
Rico. 

1118
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:13,960
Fits. 
Bad pick, but. 

1119
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,040
He fits so well with this team 
as an RB. 

1120
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:18,400
Yeah, he really fits the 
structure. 

1121
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,560
I honestly think he's an 
absolute smash with this 

1122
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:26,080
particular structure. 
The question is, God, I hate not

1123
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,760
taking Hollywood, but I think we
take Quorum, but I think it's. 

1124
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,080
Hot, He can't take a wide 
receiver. 

1125
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,120
I don't think we can take a wide
receiver. 

1126
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,360
I don't think we can either. 
I want a running back but I'm 

1127
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,960
I'm open to who it is. 
I think quorum sounds fun. 

1128
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,720
I mean, Quorum's like the 
biggest upside running back. 

1129
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,400
I'm porn off that. 
Exists. 

1130
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,920
I like Quorum. 
I mean, I do also like the angle

1131
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,120
that we passed on Chyron, Like 
we made this bet already in a 

1132
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,000
sense, you know? 
All right, quorum. 

1133
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:59,240
Yeah, touch an alpha play. 
Who needs 41 chyron when you get

1134
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:03,360
10/1 Rams RV one for the 
playoffs? 

1135
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,400
I do like we get the usable guy 
and then we get the highest 

1136
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,440
upside handcuff in all of 
fantasy football. 

1137
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:16,360
Yeah, this is how we dominate. 
Passing on Marquis was tough, 

1138
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,160
though. 
That was tough. 

1139
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,720
I think with the double tight 
end though, you know, you're 

1140
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,360
kind of you're down 1 less flex 
hopefully right with the two 

1141
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:30,240
tight ends. 
So it's like we have another 

1142
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,080
receiver. 
Yeah, that's the thing. 

1143
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:38,480
We've got 123456. 
We've got 7 pass catchers for 

1144
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,360
five starting spots. 
So we can definitely take some 

1145
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:42,760
more pass catchers at some 
point. 

1146
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:48,600
It just the RV was going to dry 
up fast if we didn't didn't go 

1147
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,160
to there I think. 
Yeah. 

1148
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:52,560
I also. 
Yeah, we. 

1149
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,320
Kind of already missed the tier 
which is a bummer. 

1150
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,840
And and not not that I don't 
think these guys can hit in 

1151
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:02,000
tandem, but I I think the like 
Uber Xavier worthy smashes are 

1152
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,240
pretty correlated with Hollywood
being a little bit more 

1153
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,760
middling. 
You know, where he just because 

1154
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,000
I don't rosh, he's not going 
away. 

1155
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:13,280
Kelsey's not going away. 
Like if if both those guys are 

1156
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,960
are solid, don't you think it 
kind of limits the the Super 

1157
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,440
high and ceiling outcome of the 
other? 

1158
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:21,480
I don't know. 
I still I mean I think Hollywood

1159
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,040
in round 10 is pretty insane, 
but. 

1160
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,320
No matter how I but that's 
that's an in a in a vacuum. 

1161
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,520
The the value I'm talking about 
as it pertains to what we hope 

1162
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,760
Worthy can be on this team. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1163
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:37,440
There's just also, like anybody,
like, you know, Rice or Kelsey 

1164
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,120
could get hurt too. 
And then you're like you're, 

1165
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,000
you're you're you're dancing 
with both both Worthy and 

1166
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:47,720
Hollywood. 
I mean, yeah. 

1167
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,160
I don't want to make a big Rico 
thing, but I do just have to 

1168
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:55,680
comment on our guy RKFD Jonathan
the chat, said Dottle. 

1169
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,960
Definitely an alpha play. 
There couldn't have been less of

1170
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,560
an alpha play. 
That's there's no way that's an 

1171
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,800
alpha play. 
This guy's 26 and it's like 

1172
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,320
barely played. 
He's a special teams. 

1173
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,920
It's just like we're gonna get 
some touches. 

1174
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:09,800
We're gonna, we're gonna just 
put a guy in there cuz he's 

1175
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,840
like, there's no one else. 
We gotta use him like that's not

1176
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,200
an alpha play. 
In my opinion. 

1177
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:15,800
Well, he's the lead running 
back. 

1178
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,440
He's the alpha running back on 
the Cowboys. 

1179
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,280
So that's, I mean, if he's alpha
Jason. 

1180
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,400
Anything's an alpha play. 
This is like. 

1181
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,280
I would I would make an argument
that other than just saying 

1182
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,440
injuries don't matter and 
selecting Nick Chubb, I don't 

1183
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,120
know if there was an alpha play 
running back selection left on 

1184
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:33,440
the board that this. 
That's fair. 

1185
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,360
That, I mean, well, yeah, you. 
Can just like. 

1186
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:40,080
Put your nuts on the table with 
a rookie and be like, I mean, 

1187
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:41,560
Blake Gorm was kind of an alpha 
play. 

1188
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,200
I honestly don't think like. 
Blake Gorm was an alpha play. 

1189
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,600
In in the context of us passing 
on Chiron and then getting. 

1190
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:49,720
Quorum. 
That. 

1191
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:54,360
It's a combo alpha play, yeah. 
Let's see those layers. 

1192
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,400
It's it's like the definition of
or how everyone interprets true 

1193
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,640
serum now everyone's definition 
of an alpha play just slightly 

1194
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,640
different for. 
Sure. 

1195
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,040
What about What about this 
comment Crutch? 

1196
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,520
He's a regular guy and he was 
able to hang around the NFL for 

1197
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:11,640
years. 
That's pretty alpha. 

1198
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:16,320
Pretty alpha. 
I thought, I thought. 

1199
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,320
Alphas were like big and fast 
and strong and really really 

1200
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,240
good. 
Was an alpha for like a just a 

1201
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,440
normie? 
For a normie, yeah. 

1202
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:26,240
Next. 
Guy named would. 

1203
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:29,760
Compare him when you compare him
to Zeke starts to look a lot 

1204
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,880
like an alpha play He. 
Really does, man, He really 

1205
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:37,120
does. 
So we got our 2 running backs, 

1206
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,920
Rico Corm, 2 tight ends, 
McBride, Pitts, our quarterback 

1207
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,840
Stroud, and those five wide 
receivers, Puka Debo, Worthy, 

1208
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,720
Rome Reed. 
And obviously we're treating, 

1209
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,000
you know, the tight end, one of 
them as a flex. 

1210
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,440
But it still is crazy either in 
even hammering wide receiver, 

1211
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,680
even going, you know, true 0 RB,
you still are only at 5 wide 

1212
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,240
receivers. 
Like what are these guys? 

1213
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:57,640
Going to. 
I know. 

1214
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,640
One of them is going to get hurt
like. 

1215
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:05,080
Yeah, one question for you guys.
I didn't really consider him. 

1216
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,240
I definitely think Strada was 
the right pick, but this is 

1217
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,520
probably the only draft 
manageably draft where I think 

1218
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,480
Zamir White would have even been
remotely in consideration. 

1219
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,720
You know, I mean, he went quite 
late. 

1220
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,480
Would you, would you if we 
didn't take Stroud? 

1221
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,560
Would he have been in the 
running back conversation for 

1222
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,680
you at 8:00 one or is it just a 
complete cross off? 

1223
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:28,120
I prefer Pollard or spear. 
I would have been Pollard over 

1224
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,280
him, but he would have been in 
the conversation. 

1225
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,720
I wouldn't. 
Have been, yeah, I, I actually 

1226
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,520
probably have. 
I would probably have taken him 

1227
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,000
over those guys as like the 
running back one. 

1228
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,960
You're just like hoping he just 
gets fed, you know? 

1229
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,120
I I don't see points for as long
as he he lasts right and and. 

1230
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,520
Yeah, he's a rich man. 
He might last a while too. 

1231
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,640
There's no one really there. 
I mean, Alexander Madison is is 

1232
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:56,240
pretty watched and you know, I 
it's more the do we want, do we 

1233
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,120
even win anything if we get the 
Raiders lead back? 

1234
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,600
I think that's the sort of the 
downside, but. 

1235
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,920
Put some respect on Dylan 
Lobby's name bro. 

1236
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:07,640
He was on the pod. 
Yeah, that's actually part of my

1237
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,080
Zamir case at this point. 
You. 

1238
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:16,480
Know. 
We'll always have our big 

1239
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,480
shares. 
I mean, I I took him in 

1240
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:25,280
basketball mania. 
I think Zamir like it. 

1241
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,560
There's no there's no jump to 
the shark element with him. 

1242
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:31,360
Leone like we're just taking him
in the 90s like projectable 

1243
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:37,880
volume in best ball I. 
Think it like, I mean, this is 

1244
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,640
where you guys didn't want to 
take Jacobs and Jacobs. 

1245
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:43,080
It was so much better. 
Jacob was a first round. 

1246
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,160
Pick just to make the Zamir just
with the Zamir white jump the 

1247
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,080
shark comp. 
I don't know if I've taken him 

1248
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:53,240
some when he slipped part like 
I, I, but I I'll draft anybody 

1249
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:54,800
kind of investment at the right 
price. 

1250
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,280
So I don't know if I'm the right
person to ask. 

1251
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:00,800
I don't think we've jumped this 
shark, but I think he goes 

1252
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:05,200
around roughly where he should 
go, maybe just a little bit too 

1253
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,840
early when we probably all 
expected him to go way too 

1254
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:12,720
early, right? 
Yeah, I guess it is hard for me.

1255
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:13,920
Yeah, I ended up slightly. 
Overweight. 

1256
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,520
I know none of them came back, 
but I just have a hard time like

1257
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,880
Zamir separating from even like 
Singletary and Brian Robinson in

1258
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,000
my head of kind of like what I'm
getting. 

1259
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:27,600
So to be like the first of that 
wave of running backs just 

1260
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:32,600
always strikes me as as gross. 
Yeah, I, I once we got halfway 

1261
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,520
through round nine, though, if 
we had gone Moss Brooks, I think

1262
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:39,880
that would have been. 
That that's what I yeah, Brooks 

1263
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:41,600
would have been really, really 
fun. 

1264
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,320
I was hoping Spears, that was my
like, dream. 

1265
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:48,320
One to fall, I mean. 
Are you guys just out on Moss? 

1266
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,800
I just I feel. 
Like, no, no, I I I I like Moss 

1267
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:52,000
a lot. 
No, I'm in a lot Moss. 

1268
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,320
In our last draft. 
We it broke. 

1269
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,920
It broke probably medium for us.
It almost broke. 

1270
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,720
Amazing. 
It almost broke really badly. 

1271
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,520
I think it broke medium for us. 
Either Tennessee back would have

1272
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,360
been fun there. 
There's a lot of guys that could

1273
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,480
have been, could have. 
Been so the one hole cuff cuff 

1274
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,880
CMC with with Jordan Mason 
there. 

1275
01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:28,080
We saw a few other tight ends 
off the board in round 10. 

1276
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,439
Friar Muth, Commet likely 
finally seen some other 

1277
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,880
quarterbacks off the board too. 
Burrow, Love, Prescott, Caleb 

1278
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:40,800
Williams and teams continue to 
select running backs. 

1279
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:45,640
Chad just took his 12345. 6 
Chad's really light at pass 

1280
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:50,720
catch and two of it 2O no, I was
looking at 2:00, but he's got 

1281
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:55,319
two more bucks game receivers 
and he's he's only got 1 tight 

1282
01:08:55,319 --> 01:08:56,920
end. 
It's a good tight end, but he's 

1283
01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:00,479
only got 4 pass catchers. 
That does make I do like the 

1284
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,840
FFPC with the the dual flex 
though, just making it so that 

1285
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:07,200
teams can build completely 
differently, yeah. 

1286
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,359
Yeah, and I guess if you're 
going to take a 6th running 

1287
01:09:11,359 --> 01:09:13,160
back, you want it to be a guy 
like Jalen Wright. 

1288
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:22,359
I do prefer how in NFC you get 
one less flex and everyone 

1289
01:09:22,359 --> 01:09:26,640
drafts even more running backs. 
I wish people playing. 

1290
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:31,880
That is a nice dynamic. 
I felt like that one. 

1291
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:33,439
Other people didn't play to the 
format. 

1292
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,399
I feel like one year it like 
really switched. 

1293
01:09:36,399 --> 01:09:37,960
Has it like kind of switched 
back? 

1294
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,800
I like one year people finally 
like got it and I think that was

1295
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:48,359
the year we drafted live. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

1296
01:09:48,359 --> 01:09:50,399
I don't think I've never saw it 
that way, damn it. 

1297
01:09:55,000 --> 01:10:02,880
Eckler goes, McLaughlin goes. 
Bucky goes. 

1298
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:13,240
Well, this we we did not want to
see all this green around 11, 

1299
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:20,760
no. 
No, we still got some plays. 

1300
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:24,360
I, I do think we, I think we 
probably just need to double tap

1301
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,080
running back again, though. 
I don't really. 

1302
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:29,760
Think I agree that's one guy. 
There's no point saying. 

1303
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,960
We don't have to, but. 
I like the guy you you're 

1304
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:36,200
mentioning, Leonie, but I, I 
think I'm with these guys that 

1305
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,640
it would be tough. 
Yeah, that's that's fair. 

1306
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,280
It's good. 
It it it's going to get real 

1307
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,240
bad. 
And this is I I did a main event

1308
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:49,560
with Levitan and Silva and this 
is dynamic that Levitan doing 

1309
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,840
all the best ball drafts. 
I had to explain, it's like once

1310
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:56,040
you go to RB you kind of have to
stay like you can't ping pong it

1311
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,960
like you kind of best ball cause
all the RBS just go and you're 

1312
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:03,960
drafting just like ghosts in 
round, you know, 14 plus. 

1313
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,200
All right, I think we're all on.
Different guys on this too. 

1314
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:20,520
I would say my personal favorite
is Ray Davis. 

1315
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:27,040
That's mine. 
I would not mind the guy Gretsch

1316
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:28,200
likes with Ray Davis. 
We. 

1317
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,440
Could I mean we could try. 
I'm just saying I I don't. 

1318
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,080
That's fine, I. 
Wouldn't mind trying to squeeze 

1319
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,960
him but I get. 
My personal favorite I think is 

1320
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,280
Dobbins, just because we can 
play him right away. 

1321
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:44,040
Dobbins and Ray Davis are my top
2 but. 

1322
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:48,760
I. 
Retch, Do you like Ray Davis for

1323
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,680
one of these? 
I'd be the other rookies over 

1324
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:55,080
him too, but that's fine. 
I'd be like Lloyd and Videl over

1325
01:11:55,080 --> 01:12:00,240
him, but we can go there. 
We could go Dobbins and Videl. 

1326
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,240
We could do. 
Dobbins Videl Double Tap OK, 

1327
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,640
let's I just say. 
Because we were at 5 seconds. 

1328
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,960
No, we're getting Leonie's. 
One of Leonie's favorite backs 

1329
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:09,440
is Ray Davis. 
I love Ray Davis. 

1330
01:12:09,440 --> 01:12:10,320
That's fine. 
That's fine. 

1331
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,680
OK. 
I'm whatever you guys want to do

1332
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,720
on the second back. 
The guys I like are like Ty 

1333
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,680
Chandler if we were desperate to
start someone on Shuba Hubbard, 

1334
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:19,000
but I don't think we should do 
that. 

1335
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,440
I honestly think with Dowdell 
especially, that we should take 

1336
01:12:22,440 --> 01:12:24,480
another rookie big swing like I 
think it should be Lloyd or 

1337
01:12:24,480 --> 01:12:26,920
Vidal. 
Honestly, I think Lloyd. 

1338
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,640
Allen. 
Fairly bullish. 

1339
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,000
And Allen? 
You thought Allen requires an 

1340
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:31,960
injury more? 
I think Lloyd might play a lot. 

1341
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,040
They talked about playing them a
lot early in the offseason. 

1342
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,480
They only kept 3 backs. 
Yeah, it might not probably. 

1343
01:12:36,480 --> 01:12:38,880
Be part of my concern is they 
like actually like Emmanuel 

1344
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:40,760
Wilson more than they think. 
But sure. 

1345
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:44,160
But what about out of time? 
So you guys just you tell me I'm

1346
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,400
happy with any of these backs. 
Well, I mean the one I mentioned

1347
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,840
in the chat. 
If there's another, I don't 

1348
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:50,640
know. 
How about Allen? 

1349
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,880
I'm down for that one. 
I have no issues with that. 

1350
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:54,440
Which one? 
Braylon Allen. 

1351
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,800
No, that's the one. 
The one we might think about. 

1352
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:59,760
I don't I. 
Don't think anyone else is in it

1353
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:00,840
in on. 
That tell me the name. 

1354
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:02,560
P Ryan. 
P Ryan, We. 

1355
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:12,360
Yeah. 
We you guys down in the name of 

1356
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:13,880
the chat. 
I'm like just tell me the name. 

1357
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,360
Well, we. 
That was just confusion. 

1358
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,440
I I wasn't in on on Alan 
necessarily. 

1359
01:13:19,440 --> 01:13:21,360
I don't think Pat was. 
Pete brought him up again with a

1360
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,360
few seconds left, but I don't 
think anyone else was with. 

1361
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,120
I heard you say big rookie swing
and I was trying to move us to. 

1362
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,760
AI just wanted someone to give 
me an actual name. 

1363
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:32,680
Yeah, and. 
I'm fine with that one. 

1364
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:36,440
I mean, I I don't think anyone 
wanted him as the number one, 

1365
01:13:36,440 --> 01:13:41,080
but yeah, I think he's fine. 
Sorry, it's just I was, I was 

1366
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:43,200
desperate for a name there. 
Yeah. 

1367
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:46,000
And no one gave me one. 
We were, we were all on like 5 

1368
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:47,320
different guys. 
It's just one of those ones 

1369
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,080
where no one could really give a
name, you know? 

1370
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,920
Yeah, I thought Dobbins Fidel 
was fun like. 

1371
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,440
A You guys were talking about 
Dobbins a lot. 

1372
01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:55,520
There were several names there. 
They're all in the same tier for

1373
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:55,920
me. 
Right. 

1374
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,040
Yeah, That's why I was like, 
when you're like the one in 

1375
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,080
chat, I'm like, I don't know, 
we've been talking about a lot 

1376
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:01,880
of guys. 
Yeah, sorry. 

1377
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:06,200
Yeah, because that the chat was.
About Ellen is Ellen is a fine 

1378
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:07,640
pick, though. 
I mean, he's certainly a big 

1379
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:11,840
swing. 
For sure, I thought Gretch got 

1380
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:17,160
off his guy for the big swing so
I and then Peter said him but. 

1381
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:21,560
I met particularly one that 
well, yeah, yeah, it doesn't 

1382
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,960
matter. 
What's done is done. 

1383
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,680
What was that quote earlier? 
Whatever, whatever has been, is 

1384
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:27,720
done. 
Yeah. 

1385
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,520
The the thing that I was 
struggling with some of the 

1386
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:33,480
other names is I do think 
there's a chance that they come.

1387
01:14:33,480 --> 01:14:35,200
Back they come back. 
And that's and that's why I'm 

1388
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,880
like, can we really, if we could
just get a couple of these guys,

1389
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,240
whereas I feel like we're almost
taking our own targets. 

1390
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:46,680
Ahead of based on based on ADP 
and the fact that this has been 

1391
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,440
a really running back heavy 
room, I think like they'd be 

1392
01:14:49,440 --> 01:14:52,440
going ahead of ADP in this room 
because I think they all kind of

1393
01:14:52,440 --> 01:14:54,480
are going ahead of ADP, right. 
Yeah. 

1394
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:56,920
So I was just. 
Yeah, we'll see. 

1395
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,760
I. 
Do think like the guy I took is 

1396
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,920
the OR is by ADP? 
Yeah, sure. 

1397
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,200
Yeah. 
And I, as much as we joke about 

1398
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:10,760
these guys not stopping taking 
running backs, they they will in

1399
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:14,120
fact have to stop at some point.
At some point. 

1400
01:15:14,480 --> 01:15:17,160
Will they? 
If I seem upset at all, I'll say

1401
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:21,120
that the two two guys we took 
were my third and fourth highest

1402
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:24,360
ranked available running backs. 
So it wasn't, it was not like 

1403
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,760
crazy at all. 
I would have probably been a 

1404
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:29,800
little more annoyed if we landed
on Dobbins after we already took

1405
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:30,840
Dowdle. 
I just I think. 

1406
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,240
We well, that's why that's why I
push it off the three of us like

1407
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:34,840
Dobbins. 
But I could tell the one thing 

1408
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,440
you didn't want was Dobbins. 
So then I'm like, let's try to 

1409
01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:40,160
find because I didn't want to do
the other two running backs 

1410
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,760
there, the rookies. 
But I didn't mind Brayling 

1411
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,280
because I thought we could sneak
an extra one of those rookies. 

1412
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,760
In a Braylin's actually probably
a pretty good compromise play 

1413
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,720
because I, I don't think there's
no like he's a big swing. 

1414
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,240
I think he has pretty, I mean 
potentially massive handcuff 

1415
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:55,920
value, so. 
Right. 

1416
01:15:56,440 --> 01:15:58,600
We you know. 
Zeke, that's who we should have 

1417
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,480
taken. 
You do that. 

1418
01:16:01,480 --> 01:16:03,640
Start Donald Zeke Week 1. 
Start. 

1419
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:06,080
Honestly. 
Honestly, we could. 

1420
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:10,040
We could have. 
I almost was just like, let's 

1421
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,200
just take Wicks and see what see
what falls I. 

1422
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:13,440
Mean that would have been fun 
too. 

1423
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,800
Honestly, Wix. 
Would I just think like when I 

1424
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,840
think about some of the late 
wide receivers? 

1425
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:21,920
And I like. 
Wix too, but it's just like, 

1426
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,040
man, the two V twos on the 
running backs and the wide 

1427
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,680
receivers late. 
Yeah, we'll like the wide 

1428
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:31,280
receivers. 
I kind of feel like in a 12 

1429
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:36,080
teamer like this, it's not even 
a 2V2. 

1430
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,240
It's just like it should be all 
running backs like the like the 

1431
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,200
our whole bench should be 
running backs almost. 

1432
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,320
And maybe that's in a in a an 
overstatement, but. 

1433
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:45,920
I just don't want to get too. 
We have. 7 Not by much. 

1434
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:51,280
You know, it's not like we had 
eight, I would be like 100%, but

1435
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,520
with seven I still think 
there's, there's a little wiggle

1436
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,800
room, but we did take the 
quarterback pick in there too, 

1437
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,360
an earlier quarterback, which 
makes our running back room a 

1438
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:03,080
little weaker. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1439
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,080
I'm not trying to pigeonhole us 
into that, to be clear. 

1440
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,240
I'm just saying like that's, 
that's fine. 

1441
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,480
I should say like if we ended up
if we left this draft with like 

1442
01:17:09,480 --> 01:17:13,240
9 running backs and we that we 
liked, it wouldn't be bad. 

1443
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:21,480
Necessarily no. 
I wish I could send screenshots 

1444
01:17:21,480 --> 01:17:27,560
in the stream yard private chat 
just so everyone can see like 

1445
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:29,160
what I've got in the queue. 
Just. 

1446
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:31,360
So, well, we can we all, we can 
all see what you have in the 

1447
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:32,480
queue. 
Congrats. 

1448
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,200
Yeah, we can see that. 
No, I haven't been looking at 

1449
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:36,680
the queue, sorry. 
I'll get it open. 

1450
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,440
Because if you add the guys you 
like to the queue, I don't care 

1451
01:17:40,440 --> 01:17:43,160
if you slide that around. 
I'd rather have more that 

1452
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,360
information earlier than later. 
OK. 

1453
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,480
This is like, you know, when 
Silva found out about the the 

1454
01:17:51,480 --> 01:17:53,760
Slack chat halfway through 
Fantasy feud. 

1455
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,880
Though there's sometimes I put a
guy at the bottom that you 

1456
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:02,560
gretches because I don't want to
forget about him. 

1457
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:06,080
It doesn't mean I I want to take
them just so you. 

1458
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:07,200
Know it doesn't mean you love 
LA. 

1459
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,040
Michael P Ryan. 
Yeah, well, Michael P Ryan is 

1460
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,480
like, hey, don't forget about 
him at the very end. 

1461
01:18:13,440 --> 01:18:16,960
You guys have the queue exactly 
how my running back rankings go.

1462
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,000
So for anyone who's watching the
show and knows my running back 

1463
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:19,920
rankings. 
In out of the queue. 

1464
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:20,880
I shouldn't have said that out 
loud. 

1465
01:18:22,440 --> 01:18:25,280
Did the turn just auto? 
There's the asterisk next to the

1466
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:31,160
K dot and Locket picks. 
It looks like it, Yeah, it must 

1467
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:34,080
have. 
So every team in the league has 

1468
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:35,920
a quarterback and one team has 
2. 

1469
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:39,120
The Mahomes team also took 
Burrow. 

1470
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:49,640
So Lloyd did go yeah. 
How was Braylon Allen going so 

1471
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:51,160
far? 
I mean I guess cuz of the hammy.

1472
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:56,680
I just they were so so high on 
Lloyd and then they they IR 

1473
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,720
Dylan and only kept 3 backs and 
I know they like Emanuel Wilson 

1474
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,760
but like I thought that was 
really bullish for Lloyd 

1475
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:06,800
including that his hammy is not 
as bad as because they would 

1476
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:08,920
have kept the 4th back. 
Yeah, no, I like. 

1477
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:12,400
Lloyd, that's a good point. 
I I do like Lloyd. 

1478
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:16,960
I was kind of hoping the hammy 
would allow him back. 

1479
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,320
I mean, obviously the updated 
news is that he's at practice 

1480
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,720
and and he hasn't really 
suffered a set back. 

1481
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:25,120
So people paying attention, 
which this room probably is, 

1482
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,240
know that it's not an issue, 
but. 

1483
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:32,000
Yeah, it's weird that his price 
stayed down to me. 

1484
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:35,760
I talked about this with Sean 
recently as well in a draft and 

1485
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:39,560
he was kind of questioning me on
it because I think he thought he

1486
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,320
was questioning how high I 
thought Lloyd should have came 

1487
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,520
back after he fell like all the 
way back up to where he was. 

1488
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,800
He was thinking, I think that I 
was too high on Lloyd based on 

1489
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:49,600
the conversation. 
I don't know if that's the right

1490
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:53,280
characterization of it, but I 
mean, it wouldn't be the first 

1491
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,600
time that I've been too bullish 
on Lloyd recently in a Co 

1492
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:57,560
managed draft. 
That's my point. 

1493
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:02,400
But I my my take away on the 
final cut stuff was like. 

1494
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,320
Yeah, Lloyd should fly right 
back up to where he was going. 

1495
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:09,000
Like I don't like he shouldn't 
go behind. 

1496
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,200
I mean he did miss most of the 
summer as a rookie, which is a 

1497
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:15,240
little concerning but but I 
agree. 

1498
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,240
I mean the age of Dylan going to
IR thing is big. 

1499
01:20:17,480 --> 01:20:18,440
That's like, really? 
Big huge. 

1500
01:20:18,480 --> 01:20:23,840
So I'm I'm being repetitive, but
there I know Levitan was looking

1501
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:27,120
into this, he's very into Lloyd,
but he was pointing out that if 

1502
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:30,600
you read some comments even 
going back to the very early 

1503
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:34,080
offseason like pre draft, that 
it is possible they do 

1504
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:35,720
legitimately like Emmanuel 
Wilson. 

1505
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:39,720
OK, Yeah. 
That's not a reason to like, not

1506
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,760
take Lloyd, but like it, it 
might be. 

1507
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:45,360
It might be a bigger battle to 
to pass. 

1508
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:47,240
No, I mean. 
We're assuming, I guess. 

1509
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:50,440
That's the September 3rd running
back take, right? 

1510
01:20:50,440 --> 01:20:53,880
It's like 25 year old backs that
have done nothing like him and 

1511
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,440
Rico Dowdell. 
We're just like, that's what we 

1512
01:20:56,440 --> 01:21:00,080
do it on September 3rd. 
What is the Wilson profile? 

1513
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:04,080
That's Raheem Mostert. 
What were, you know, you were 

1514
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,640
arguing for Dalvin Cook the 
other day with a Raheem Mostert 

1515
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,760
comp. 
Maybe, maybe we found the next 

1516
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:10,440
Raheem Mostert. 
That might be true. 

1517
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:12,680
What is? 
What's the Emmanuel Wilson 

1518
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:14,360
profile? 
Is he like a scat back guy? 

1519
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:15,320
What is? 
What is he? 

1520
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,120
Two No. 
One Emmanuel Wilson literally 

1521
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,480
knows. 
Nothing about that plays running

1522
01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:26,280
back. 
Yeah, he's like, he's like a 

1523
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:28,720
little bit more of a pass 
catcher, but he's not tiny or 

1524
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:30,120
anything. 
What? 

1525
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:34,000
He's 226? 
Yeah, he's five, 10226. 

1526
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:37,160
Like he's got some size. 
He could definitely do stuff, 

1527
01:21:37,440 --> 01:21:41,520
but he has eighteen career 
touches and he's 25 year old, 

1528
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:45,440
you know, I mean, he's not 
played a lot at the NFL level. 

1529
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,440
Yeah. 
Johnny Mack has a pretty solid 

1530
01:21:48,440 --> 01:21:51,320
team. 
They took Marshawn Lloyd on on 

1531
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:52,840
Day 2. 
This was the point I was making 

1532
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:54,720
to you guys as well. 
Like Braylon Allen's a day three

1533
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,000
pick, several other rookies. 
Bucky Irving goes ahead of him. 

1534
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:58,520
Now Jalen Wright goes ahead of 
him. 

1535
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,960
Those are day three picks. 
There's no other day two pick at

1536
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:03,440
running back that goes within. 
Three. 

1537
01:22:03,480 --> 01:22:04,880
I like it. 
I'm sold. 

1538
01:22:05,440 --> 01:22:08,720
Can we we auto drafted Allen? 
Can we roll that pick back? 

1539
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:09,960
Can. 
We roll that back and take 

1540
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:10,960
Marsha. 
Lloyd the the the. 

1541
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:13,480
The round three pick. 
Yeah, I'm down. 

1542
01:22:13,480 --> 01:22:16,000
You convinced me, for I'm not. 
I mean, I'm kidding about the 

1543
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:17,760
rollback, but he did convince 
me. 

1544
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:20,160
But. 
We probably. 

1545
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:21,880
Allen's a good. 
Pick and Davis, they're good 

1546
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:22,920
picks. 
They're not bad picks. 

1547
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,160
I like, I mean, I think I don't 
know, we'll see how much Ty 

1548
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:29,880
Johnson plays. 
I think there's a chance Ray 

1549
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:33,800
Davis is like playable right 
away with the and then the 

1550
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:35,600
contingent offside. 
Yeah. 

1551
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,120
Where it's like the juiced up 
Latavius Murray role, you know, 

1552
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:44,920
is is really not a bad role it. 
Looks like Benson at 11 do. 

1553
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,120
You think he has that because 
there was some talk of him with 

1554
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:50,760
Johnson. 
That's yeah. 

1555
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:55,080
The the how much I think Ty 
Johnson early might play more 

1556
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,480
than we want. 
It wouldn't be good. 

1557
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:06,000
I mean, this just happens. 
All right, we are on deck. 

1558
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,320
We had a few running backs going
this round. 

1559
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,960
Lockett, Mitchell, Mike 
Williams, Cooks, Gabe were the 

1560
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:16,760
wide receivers. 
Goff and Trevor Lawrence were 

1561
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:19,760
the quarterbacks here. 
We're going to see what Team 11 

1562
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:23,800
does. 
And then we have the 1314 turn. 

1563
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:28,400
Our previous 4 picks Rico, 
Blake, Ray. 

1564
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:29,520
There you go. 
So. 

1565
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,000
We can sneak in one of these, 
yeah. 

1566
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:34,760
Braylon. 
Probably wasn't coming back. 

1567
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:38,600
So yeah, I'm fucking so great 
play. 

1568
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:40,680
Great play. 
The question is the second 

1569
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:45,720
running back. 
Yeah. 

1570
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,960
So we we all want Vidal, right? 
Vidal. 

1571
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:55,720
We all want Vidal. 
The next two can we say? 

1572
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:59,320
Him, I don't think they're both 
going to come back, so I think 

1573
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:03,880
we just talk about him. 
Yeah, I kind of like Gibson for 

1574
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:06,640
this team, but if we want to go 
all upside and take Tracy, 

1575
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,840
that's fine too. 
I kind of like the Gibson play 

1576
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,120
for this team and I have Tracy a
big tear break in my rankings 

1577
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:15,160
above him, but I get it. 
I get the Gibson. 

1578
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:17,560
News. 
We, we, we could start Gibson 

1579
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:18,240
right away. 
Don't worry. 

1580
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:19,800
Yeah. 
We might start in week one, 

1581
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:20,960
right? 
What do you think, Pat? 

1582
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:25,520
I think Gibson is a little bit 
better filled for the build, 

1583
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:31,440
just like the week 1, but I 
don't, I don't feel like 

1584
01:24:31,440 --> 01:24:33,440
strongly that we need to go 
Gibson over Tracy. 

1585
01:24:33,440 --> 01:24:36,440
I'd be open to Tracy too. 
But yeah the counter to the 

1586
01:24:36,440 --> 01:24:38,520
Gibson play would be fuck the 
build. 

1587
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,000
We're taking 7 running backs. 
Well, let me ask the. 

1588
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,000
Upside shots as possible. 
Let me ask a question that I 

1589
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,240
think will decide it. 
Would you guys want to start any

1590
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,000
of these 4 rookies over Gibson 
in week one or would you 

1591
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:49,920
definitely want to start Gibson 
over those 4 rookies? 

1592
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:51,640
I would be starting. 
I would then. 

1593
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:55,000
Yeah, I'd be open to. 
Start Ray Davis, but yeah, 

1594
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,640
probably Gibson. 
It'd be Gibson or Ray David, 

1595
01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:59,760
like I think. 
I don't think it's a huge gap 

1596
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:01,640
over Ray Davis, but I would be 
voting Gibson. 

1597
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,000
Then I think we'd take Gibson. 
Let's do Gibson's harder. 

1598
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:08,200
Yeah, If you're, if you're if 
that answer I think kind of 

1599
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:10,200
tells you what we should do in 
my opinion. 

1600
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:13,320
Yeah, the other thing too, like 
we were trying. 

1601
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:14,680
To take Gibson has such a. 
Deal. 

1602
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:17,040
Yeah, he's up. 
Yeah, let's see, Gibson. 

1603
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:19,360
Yeah, Gibson has contingent 
value. 

1604
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:20,840
Like for real? 
Contingent value? 

1605
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,240
He hasn't real sure what. 
Tracy's contingent value is 

1606
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:24,200
yeah. 
Right. 

1607
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,520
He might be the same play as 
Tracy in some ways. 

1608
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:29,120
They're both in a bad offense. 
He's super athletic. 

1609
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:32,320
Yeah, he's always caught passes.
That was the appeal of Tracy as 

1610
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:34,200
he caught passes in college. 
It comes from a wide receiver 

1611
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:35,960
background. 
He's kind of the new Gibson, 

1612
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:37,240
right? 
This guy that was a converted 

1613
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,040
receiver in college. 
Like the upside for Tracy is 

1614
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,240
that he is Gibson, but they they
brought him in as. 

1615
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:45,240
A right. 
And then another, another player

1616
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:48,400
who cut down day was really 
beneficial for they cut Kevin 

1617
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,640
Harris, who was the expected. 
Sort of running back three. 

1618
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:55,640
It's it's just two guys. 
Yeah, it's just two guys. 

1619
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:59,480
Yeah, Jemichael Hastie is going 
to play on long down and 

1620
01:25:59,480 --> 01:26:01,520
distance and special teams. 
They have 3 backs. 

1621
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,720
That's it. 
Like I think Gibson is going to.

1622
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,240
And the way they were using him 
interchangeably in the preseason

1623
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:08,720
was like he was playing on early
downs. 

1624
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:11,360
He was running, which Washington
got away from, and I thought 

1625
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,280
that the Patriots probably 
wouldn't be super into, but 

1626
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,400
seems like they might actually 
be into using him as a runner 

1627
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:18,920
more than Washington did last 
year. 

1628
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:22,760
So anyway. 
The other thing is that Romandre

1629
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:26,040
was not very good last year. 
He was especially bad as a pass 

1630
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,440
catcher. 
And they they they believe in 

1631
01:26:28,440 --> 01:26:29,840
Romandre. 
They just give him a new deal. 

1632
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,520
I think he's going to, you know,
get more than just the first 

1633
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,280
crack at it. 
He'll be, it'll be his job for a

1634
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:36,960
while. 
But like, there is, you know, 

1635
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,080
it's not impossible that he 
really starts eating the 

1636
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:41,600
Romandres workload down the 
stretch. 

1637
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:49,320
For sure they just paid him like
you said, but I mean it's it's 

1638
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:51,400
not out of the question. 
That's not their plan. 

1639
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:53,520
Like it's definitely not their 
plan. 

1640
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,400
But like we see team plans 
change all the time in season. 

1641
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:59,080
This is like one of the things, 
right, that we know for a fact 

1642
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:02,720
and that people really don't 
like remembering in August and 

1643
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:05,200
early September. 
But do you? 

1644
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,520
Think Kamani Fidel though. 
Oh my God. 

1645
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:10,760
I mean. 
I think I was clearly. 

1646
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:13,880
Not super stoked about where our
running back room was going, but

1647
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,520
I'm really into colony. 
Of my Dell that's why I just 

1648
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,440
want I I thought there was a 
really good chance we would get 

1649
01:27:19,440 --> 01:27:22,000
one of a dollar P Ryan and I 
just wanted to be like let's 

1650
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,200
just if we could get any one of 
these other ones I think we're 

1651
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:25,480
going to get one of these guys 
that's a good. 

1652
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:28,120
I like realizing. 
AP thing, I wasn't paying 

1653
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:29,880
attention to that. 
That's a great, great move. 

1654
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:31,120
Yeah. 
Other than P Ryan. 

1655
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:33,560
I was pulling up P Ryan and I 
thought he would go in this 

1656
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:34,600
room. 
Yeah. 

1657
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,960
That's a good call. 
Lloyd is better than Braylon 

1658
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:43,440
though, You know, I mean that. 
I just misunderstood where we 

1659
01:27:43,440 --> 01:27:45,280
were at. 
But Lloyd is better than Braylon

1660
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:48,120
because it's just going to be 
hard for Braylon to work out any

1661
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,040
sort of meaningful role without 
injury. 

1662
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:55,560
Yeah, but isn't that like, I 
trust me, I, I, I love Lloyd. 

1663
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:57,960
I was drafting him for that same
reason of, you know, hopefully 

1664
01:27:57,960 --> 01:27:59,640
having a smidge of standalone 
value. 

1665
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:04,080
But don't both Braylon and Lloyd
still need the injury in front 

1666
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:07,120
of them to be Uber smashes? 
Like are we getting excited 

1667
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,320
about a Marshawn Lloyd stand 
alone role when Josh Jacobs is 

1668
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:15,800
still getting 15 touches a game?
The way they were talking, I. 

1669
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,840
I tend to agree. 
It was that they were going to 

1670
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:19,520
use Buck. 
Go ahead. 

1671
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:23,400
No, I mean, I tend to agree from
the perspective of managed 

1672
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:26,880
league, like like your argument,
Ben, I think is like very 

1673
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:29,720
convincing that we need to kind 
of like reassess where we had on

1674
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:33,000
Lloyd probably like anchor to 
the his fallen ADP, which is 

1675
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:36,000
wrong, which is just incorrect 
now and get more aggressive. 

1676
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,960
And I probably prefer him to 
Allen. 

1677
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:44,280
I wish we could go back and and 
take Lloyd, I think, but I do 

1678
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:47,920
think that to be like, Oh yeah, 
we're starting Lloyd this week. 

1679
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:49,880
There's no question. 
He probably does need the injury

1680
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:54,760
and that's in the injury cases. 
I think Allen is probably a 

1681
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:57,560
little bit better of a play. 
You know what I mean? 

1682
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:01,720
Like if they're both true. 
It's close. 

1683
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:04,160
It's it's close. 
It's probably useless unless we 

1684
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,920
get the injury. 
Yeah, it's close. 

1685
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:10,000
And even if you do get that 
stand alone value in a shared 

1686
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:11,320
backfield, it's harder to start 
right. 

1687
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:13,880
The best ball, you just get the 
bank like Marshawn Lloyd gets 

1688
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:16,040
the two touchdown game and 
you're like slotted in. 

1689
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:19,200
He's on the field boom like, but
we're not going to know when to 

1690
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:22,120
start him over Antonio Gibson 
for as long as Josh Jacobs is 

1691
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:25,320
healthy. 
Probably it's kind of, but 

1692
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:28,640
they've used multiple probably 
meaningfully enough. 

1693
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:31,720
And they talked about Lloyd in a
way that made me think that that

1694
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:33,880
might not be. 
The the, the the. 

1695
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:37,440
Definite way that it plays out 
like right after the draft they 

1696
01:29:37,440 --> 01:29:40,000
were talking about like 
literally saying straight up 

1697
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,000
Marshall Lloyd's going to have a
role in this offense. 

1698
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:44,200
We think he's really explosive. 
He gives us something. 

1699
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,960
They talked about his speed a 
lot and how how much of a 

1700
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:49,640
different speed that he plays at
gives us something different 

1701
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,840
than what Jacobs gives us. 
They really like Jacobs too. 

1702
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:53,360
They've talked a lot about how 
they're going to use him in the 

1703
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:54,160
past game. 
All these things. 

1704
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:56,320
I just keep remembering some of 
those quotes and I'm like, I 

1705
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:59,280
think they like see him as 
almost like the Jaleel 

1706
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:01,720
McLaughlin of that offense to, 
to some respect. 

1707
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:05,360
He's not the exact same player, 
but we'll get him 810 touches a 

1708
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:07,000
game. 
And if he's efficient on them, 

1709
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,160
we we there may have been 
scenarios where we'd be like, 

1710
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:10,720
yeah, we will plug him in. 
I don't. 

1711
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,480
I mean, yeah. 
I possibly I agree with that. 

1712
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:15,920
I agree. 
I I think it really comes down 

1713
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:19,400
to like, are we talking about a 
spot start we feel comfortable 

1714
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:20,560
with or are you talking about 
the smash? 

1715
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:22,720
And I agree with Pete that if 
we're getting the smash, it's 

1716
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:25,440
because Jacobs went down. 
Yeah, that's a great point. 

1717
01:30:25,440 --> 01:30:27,640
And and a managed, if we're 
feeling really good about it, it

1718
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,000
is just a contingent. 
Point and and I will again 

1719
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:33,600
completely admit I think if you,
you know, pinned me down did the

1720
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:35,560
true serum gun to head, I would 
say it. 

1721
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:38,720
But the like the fact that we 
had zero percent chance of 

1722
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:44,600
getting both Allen and Lloyd 
going Lloyd first where I was 

1723
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:47,320
like there's a smidge because of
this hamstring still lingering 

1724
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:49,160
all that stuff that he comes 
back. 

1725
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:52,400
I'm like getting the chance at 
both was like worth breaking it 

1726
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:54,840
in that direction. 
That's what right when Fidel 

1727
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:58,320
made it, I said I think I said 
great play like I was. 

1728
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:00,840
I think I think that was really 
good drafting by U3. 

1729
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:03,600
I was missing the forest for the
trees a little bit, but that was

1730
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:05,880
that was sharp I. 
Was talking about JK Dobbins. 

1731
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:07,080
Don't. 
Don't include me in the good 

1732
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:10,360
draft, Yeah. 
I took I took the wrong. 

1733
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:13,160
I auto drafted the wrong player 
trying to draft P rhyme. 

1734
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:20,200
So Rach allows US1, JK Dobbins a
draft and we already took Rico 

1735
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:21,960
Dowdell. 
We already took one. 

1736
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:23,120
Yeah. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1737
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:28,960
This is a good shout out here. 
I want to mention this, Steph 

1738
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:34,600
dropped her first fabulous 
article on her newsletter. 

1739
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:35,960
I'll get that dropped in the 
chat, Nick. 

1740
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:39,200
Maybe you can drop it in the 
chat there for us, a fun recap 

1741
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:42,280
of all of our high stakes team 
so far that she'll be leading 

1742
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,680
the charge on from a waiver 
perspective. 

1743
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:47,360
So if you want a quick rundown 
of what we did in all these 

1744
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:48,560
drafts, actually, I have at 
bookmarks. 

1745
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:51,160
I'm excited to read it because 
I'm asking, wait, do we have a 

1746
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:53,600
share of Kyler Murray? 
Reading that article will remind

1747
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:57,640
me who we have shares of. 
So shout out Steph as always and

1748
01:31:57,640 --> 01:31:59,920
and Pat, let the people know 
because she's going to have a 

1749
01:31:59,920 --> 01:32:03,000
regular column on legendary 
upside as well, right? 

1750
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:06,440
That's that column. 
That's that's, that's what 

1751
01:32:06,440 --> 01:32:07,560
dropped. 
It dropped on Legendary, I'm 

1752
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:09,120
saying. 
Oh no. 

1753
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:12,160
Well, there was something in her
her fabulous her her newsletter 

1754
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:14,600
too. 
I must have missed the the 

1755
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:19,240
legendary upside. 1 Well, the 
fabulous waiver wire article 

1756
01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:21,560
dropped on a. 
Beautiful said earlier today. 

1757
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:24,200
Yeah, she did a recap of our 
teams in her newsletter post 

1758
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:26,800
too, I saw. 
So she's been cranking out the 

1759
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:32,160
the articles. 
This, this build really came 

1760
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:34,440
together, guys. 
I don't even mind the recount. 

1761
01:32:34,480 --> 01:32:37,000
I did commodity Fidel. 
Really. 

1762
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:39,520
Tied the room together For me, 
it was that piece of furniture 

1763
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:40,920
that really tied the room 
together. 

1764
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:48,360
Yeah, that was really nice. 
Oh yeah sorry this is my 

1765
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:50,280
mistake. 
I just saw her logo and thought 

1766
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:53,720
it was from the newsletter but 
it is from Legendary Upside. 

1767
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:58,600
Thank you. 
And yeah, all the Arby's went, 

1768
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:01,200
so you guys were definitely 
right to just keep having RB 

1769
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:02,880
because. 
Yeah, that was great. 

1770
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:03,560
Yeah. 
When? 

1771
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:07,080
Trey Sermon comes off the board 
right after Gibson. 

1772
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:11,000
You know we've reached the end. 
Estimate didn't get through. 

1773
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:14,760
I mean, for real, the top of my 
list right now is, is Roshan 

1774
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:17,720
Johnson, who's still there. 
Jamal Williams, I have ranked 

1775
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:20,080
this high now because I actually
think he's going to play. 

1776
01:33:20,480 --> 01:33:23,240
I got like. 
Madison or lobby in there. 

1777
01:33:23,480 --> 01:33:25,360
Yeah, it's not good at this 
point, I. 

1778
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:28,440
Well, I I don't. 
I don't want to throw out too 

1779
01:33:28,440 --> 01:33:30,080
many names in case we're waiting
later. 

1780
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:33,400
I think running backs done is 
what we're saying. 

1781
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,360
That's how I'm feeling. 
Yeah. 

1782
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:41,200
I mean, I feel like the last 
guys we've been taking have been

1783
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:44,120
like the Shipley and Estimate. 
Those have been kind of the two 

1784
01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:46,600
go TOS for us and now they're 
gone. 

1785
01:33:50,080 --> 01:34:02,720
So we have four more non kicker 
defense picks and the ticker or 

1786
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:04,720
the tickers. 
The kickers are starting to come

1787
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:17,810
off the board, 
some people catching up and 

1788
01:34:17,810 --> 01:34:20,810
tight end and Senate Chig Noah 
fan. 

1789
01:34:28,730 --> 01:34:30,930
So are we back to receiver here?
Is that what we're thinking? 

1790
01:34:30,930 --> 01:34:31,570
I. 
Think. 

1791
01:34:31,810 --> 01:34:34,010
I think so. 
Yeah, I think you're back to 

1792
01:34:34,010 --> 01:34:40,120
shut your mouth, Patrick. 
Wow, don't talk about players on

1793
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:41,800
the board. 
I just put a threat. 

1794
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:44,520
I didn't I. 
Talked about a position on the 

1795
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:46,600
board. 
We're not going to talk about 

1796
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:48,320
position groups. 
We're too excited. 

1797
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:52,520
I just I just do a tight. 
End at the bottom. 

1798
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:55,000
If we do get snipe, I don't know
if that's. 

1799
01:34:55,560 --> 01:35:00,880
Oh, I like that one. 
I I kind of still like the two 

1800
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:05,360
receivers at the top. 
What do you think, Pat? 

1801
01:35:07,440 --> 01:35:15,960
That's who I like to. 
All right, we are on deck here. 

1802
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:20,200
1516 turn. 
We have taken six straight 

1803
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:23,880
running backs previous to this 
back Rico Blake, Quorum, Ray 

1804
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:27,440
Davis, Braylon Allen, Kamani 
Vidal and Antonio Gibson. 

1805
01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:32,080
By ADP The best remaining 
running back is Alexander 

1806
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:34,000
Madison. 
That's where we're at on the 

1807
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:37,120
running back front now. 
He's he's near the top of my 

1808
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:37,880
ranks too. 
He's. 

1809
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:44,040
Not far in mine either. 
Leonie, he's in this tier. 

1810
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,280
He's like 6 names now. 
You guys, you guys. 

1811
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:48,680
Are ranking too many players. 
That's what I'm learning. 

1812
01:35:50,440 --> 01:35:52,080
Roll the clip. 
Roll the clip. 

1813
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:53,800
Roll the clip all right. 
Can we? 

1814
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:54,560
Can we? 
Can we do? 

1815
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:59,720
The can we do the first pick and
then the the clip to to roll it?

1816
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:01,960
Here we were. 
Trying to couple rookie. 

1817
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:04,880
Wipers. 
Yes, I think Lee gets the other 

1818
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:06,560
pick right. 
Yes, I. 

1819
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:10,440
I think so, right. 
I mean, I do like this, yeah. 

1820
01:36:10,440 --> 01:36:13,640
I mean this year, but. 
This is where I feel even. 

1821
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:15,840
Better this cost you. 
You take the swing on the 

1822
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:17,160
rookie, right? 
Let's do the swing. 

1823
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:19,720
I agree it. 
It just let's try to cover the 

1824
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:22,120
angles. 
We could cut them right the 

1825
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:23,600
swing as well. 
Yeah, we're gonna. 

1826
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:27,520
Cut them. 
Yes, wow. 

1827
01:36:29,440 --> 01:36:32,320
And let's do it, Leonie. 
You want to you want to roll a 

1828
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:35,200
fucking clip, Leonie? 
Jalen McMillan is my official 

1829
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:37,880
guest. 
University of Washington Con. 

1830
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:55,960
A touchdown for McMillan. 
No dogs. 

1831
01:36:56,280 --> 01:37:01,960
Woof, woof, woof, woof, woof. 
He's correlated with, though 

1832
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:04,000
Doonsay. 
You know if Doonsay's sick, like

1833
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:06,160
Macmillan's more likely to be 
sick as well, right? 

1834
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:07,600
So I like having one. 
Oh yeah? 

1835
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:10,280
Is this the first time we've had
the two Huskies on the same 

1836
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:12,000
team? 
I think so. 

1837
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:16,440
Possibly most of our, I love it 
early teams I feel like didn't 

1838
01:37:16,440 --> 01:37:19,000
have Macmillan on it. 
I feel like he's been a late 

1839
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,840
surge and a lot of our early 
ones had Rome. 

1840
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:27,920
Now, how do people feel? 
Because our highlight clips have

1841
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:30,880
been a disaster, like an 
unmitigated disaster. 

1842
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:34,160
There's no Silver Linings. 
Every single one has been a 

1843
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:37,360
bust. 
But Romeo Dobbs Silver Linings. 

1844
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:42,040
Well, yeah, and Rojo did have 
that one run, but these teams 

1845
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:44,640
have been awesome. 
So we've got two of these guys 

1846
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:48,200
on this team like which wins 
out, obviously. 

1847
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:50,480
We're about to find out how. 
Powerful alpha play. 

1848
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:54,360
Alpha play trump card. 
The guy we didn't do a clip for 

1849
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:57,760
but and probably because he just
got so expensive, but I think 

1850
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:01,080
was the most natural fit for a 
clip this year is also on this 

1851
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:05,000
team and that's Xavier worthy. 
Like he was like that that guy 

1852
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:07,320
this year, but he was just going
so much higher because Pete was 

1853
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:09,960
on him pre draft. 
He's going to go in the first 

1854
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:12,760
round. 
I loved the fit after the draft.

1855
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:14,320
Pat, I think you've been in on 
the profile. 

1856
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:16,680
I mean, I do have a Xavier 
Worthy clip in the hopper. 

1857
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:17,880
Yeah, should we? 
Just roll that. 

1858
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:21,000
Just roll that. 
We never rolled it. 

1859
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:22,720
Yo, you've seen it. 
Yeah. 

1860
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:24,520
You, you. 
You want to know what it's like 

1861
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:27,240
to get sniped on Xavier. 
Not getting Xavier Worthy and a 

1862
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:30,040
draft was like getting shot. 
Any draft where I get sniped on 

1863
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:33,280
Xavier worthy The next one I 
play mini men as it starts. 

1864
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:39,240
Mini men wish that for fun. 
Me blood in my dog and I can't 

1865
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:41,560
see. 
I'm trying to be what I'm 

1866
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:45,280
destined to be and trying to 
take my life away. 

1867
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:47,600
It's what I. 
Imagine getting shot. 

1868
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:51,200
I feel like I can't imagine a 
worse outcome for my day. 

1869
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:56,080
I don't cry no more, Don't look 
to the sky no more. 

1870
01:38:57,280 --> 01:39:03,640
Many men, Many, many, many, many
men wish there for me. 

1871
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:07,200
Davis, I'm going to. 
I'm going to ask a question that

1872
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:09,480
I'm terrified to know the real 
answer. 

1873
01:39:09,480 --> 01:39:11,960
Is this the earliest you've 
drafted Xavier Worthy? 

1874
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:13,280
Yeah. 
Can. 

1875
01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:21,760
I say that one of the hardest I 
laughed recently was the crack 

1876
01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:25,600
rock clip where he did not think
that that was you doing. 

1877
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:29,080
The Davis impersonation was like
the funny. 

1878
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:34,640
Just adamant that one wasn't me,
and then just so adamant the 

1879
01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:36,240
older. 
Was me, Yeah, the old guy with 

1880
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:38,800
the. 
Old guy with the big nose, no. 

1881
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:44,000
It wasn't you, It was an old. 
I wonder if it was the bustache 

1882
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:46,800
that really threw up for a loop 
there, distracted from the big 

1883
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:50,640
nose. 
God, that was so good that. 

1884
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:55,360
Was good. 
OK, JA. 

1885
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:58,080
Juan is gone, but we already had
two tight ends. 

1886
01:39:58,080 --> 01:39:59,440
I forgot about that one. 
I brought him up. 

1887
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:06,520
Can we get confirmation on 
Juan's teammate positionally 

1888
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:11,320
because he is not gone? 
Seems like nobody in the high 

1889
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:15,960
stakes realm is worried about. 
He's currently listed on as a 

1890
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:20,400
quarterback and so unless that 
changes like tomorrow, I guess, 

1891
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:25,920
or Thursday, then then he's. 
Weird though because like the 

1892
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:28,760
Titan premium scoring really 
kind of screws them over. 

1893
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:31,560
Right, that's what I was saying.
I feel like he's not even that 

1894
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:34,800
like as valuable as people want 
him to be. 

1895
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:37,920
It's kind of a vibes play in my 
opinion. 

1896
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:42,200
Yeah, yeah, I get it. 
There are a couple of tight 

1897
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:45,400
ends, like kind of like if we 
want to dash, but like we could 

1898
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:47,600
just roll with two. 
We don't even have to draft the 

1899
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:48,880
tight end if we don't want. 
That's right. 

1900
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:50,520
Yeah, that's right. 
We could. 

1901
01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:54,000
Just I don't, I don't think with
this build like having a third 

1902
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:57,400
really high upside tight end 
stash, I think that could make 

1903
01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:59,280
sense. 
That makes sense too, yeah. 

1904
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:03,960
Yeah, it's basically just flex 
upside. 

1905
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:06,160
What's the best flex upside at 
this point? 

1906
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:10,960
I think the thing with Tasem is 
like he he really is more 

1907
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:12,920
baseball. 
It really is more fun in 

1908
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:17,560
baseball. 
We both a good team guys. 

1909
01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:21,280
I'm excited about this team. 
Clay, there's no way. 

1910
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:23,480
So Clay just said, can you 
please narrate Crack's recent 

1911
01:41:23,480 --> 01:41:25,360
tweet about the Vikings update? 
So I was like, all right, I'll 

1912
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:28,080
go to Crack's page and and see 
what this is thinking. 

1913
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:30,880
It was 140 characters. 
It's a goddamn novel. 

1914
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:32,480
I'm not, I'm not reading this 
thing. 

1915
01:41:32,480 --> 01:41:35,160
It's it's like approaching 5000 
words. 

1916
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:39,160
Some would summarize what this 
says. 

1917
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:42,640
Run it. 
Run it to ChatGPT. 

1918
01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:46,320
Yeah, I might actually just do 
that. 

1919
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:53,520
We'll get the. 
Oh, he he indented every 

1920
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:56,000
paragraph. 
This looks like a high school. 

1921
01:41:56,000 --> 01:42:01,400
Like this is this is great. 
All right, ChatGPT, summarize 

1922
01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:04,240
this drivel into a couple 
sentences. 

1923
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:07,280
All. 
Right. 

1924
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:11,960
Here it is the Vikings. 
The Vikings are optimistic. 

1925
01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:13,680
Wait this is way too many 
sentences. 

1926
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:20,720
ChatGPT no one sentence. 
I'm not even reading this, all 

1927
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:22,280
right. 
The Vikings are optimistic about

1928
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:25,320
JJ McCarthy's future despite his
injury, but the loss of TJ 

1929
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:28,200
Hawkinson has forced them to 
pivot to a challenging Plan B, 

1930
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:30,840
focusing on defensive strength 
in the development of younger 

1931
01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:33,120
players while managing 
expectations for the season. 

1932
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:38,840
The loss of Hawkinson caused 
that that that's great. 

1933
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:46,280
Right, there's a part here, he 
says. 

1934
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:48,880
But here comes the bad news. 
They know Donald has some 

1935
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:54,520
deficiencies. 
We all know the problem for 

1936
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:56,840
Donald, the team is the loss of 
Hawkinson. 

1937
01:42:57,480 --> 01:42:59,920
Sam likes his tight ends and 
Hawkinson was to be a safety 

1938
01:42:59,920 --> 01:43:01,480
blanket. 
Now wait, what? 

1939
01:43:01,480 --> 01:43:03,680
Hawkinson was lost before they 
signed Sam Darnold. 

1940
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:08,360
That's not like. 
Yeah, I don't think this is 

1941
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:12,560
accurate. 
Keep in mind what you know Crack

1942
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:14,160
rock. 
He got, he got. 

1943
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:16,520
Drunk with one of the wolfs. 
Like that's what happened. 

1944
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:19,560
You know what I mean? 
Like let's let's. 

1945
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:22,040
Be asked about. 
What we're getting information 

1946
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:24,600
from. 
I do need to read the last 

1947
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:27,200
sentence verbatim. 
I will let everyone know when I 

1948
01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:31,440
will bathe in Lake Minnetonka in
the waters of Minnesota, run 

1949
01:43:31,440 --> 01:43:33,600
through my veins, and let the 
waters of Minnesota run through 

1950
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:35,440
my veins. 
All hail the Vikings. 

1951
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:42,720
OK then. 
Leonie, this is this is 

1952
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:46,760
generally a good time. 
I like to bring it up clearly. 

1953
01:43:47,440 --> 01:43:51,040
Do you have any kicker and 
defensive takes you did do like 

1954
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:54,200
week 1 DFS projections? 
Anything hot there for defenses 

1955
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:59,920
for us? 
I mean, if we're, yeah, I mean, 

1956
01:43:59,920 --> 01:44:02,760
the Bengals has that. 
We can start the Bengals like 

1957
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:05,800
three of the first four games 
pretty easily and just eat like 

1958
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:07,560
one. 
Tough match up for them. 

1959
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:12,120
Yeah. 
I got to read one more crack 

1960
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:13,080
paragraph. 
He goes. 

1961
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:16,400
Plan B also calls for Nick Bones
to be ready to step in the fold 

1962
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:19,200
in case Darnold fails to impress
in the first few games. 

1963
01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:23,280
That's where he said all this 
adds up to a season that they 

1964
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:26,920
know will be difficult, but they
felt felt it is a blessing in 

1965
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:29,000
disguise for the following 
reason. 

1966
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:32,480
And he went on to say they love 
McCarthy, but he's he's claiming

1967
01:44:32,480 --> 01:44:34,160
that Darnold could get benched 
after a few games. 

1968
01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:40,080
That's interesting. 
I think Darnold has some sneaky 

1969
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:42,800
bench risk. 
I don't think it's high, but 

1970
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:46,760
like, I mean, he, they, they 
were, they were, they were 

1971
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:48,760
plugging, they were rotating 
guys. 

1972
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:50,480
It was a turnstile back there 
last year. 

1973
01:44:50,480 --> 01:44:53,320
You know, Jaron Hall played 1/2.
Nick Mullins came in, Nick 

1974
01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:55,080
Mullins went out. 
Nick Mullins came back in. 

1975
01:44:55,720 --> 01:44:59,560
Dobbs was in and out. 
I mean, it seemed to have no 

1976
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:04,480
problem doing that. 
I realized it was more of an 

1977
01:45:04,480 --> 01:45:11,000
emergency situation last year. 
I think McCarthy might have low 

1978
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:13,680
key ended up being like pretty 
Goodyear one. 

1979
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:18,440
That's my like truth serum take.
I agree. 

1980
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:23,200
I mean, he was, he was like very
much an unknown, you know, not 

1981
01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:29,720
like your typical kind of raw 
prospects, but he didn't have a 

1982
01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:32,320
lot of attempts. 
So I think the aero bars are a 

1983
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:35,400
little wider, but that that 
system is awesome. 

1984
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:38,520
Like if he if he got the system 
down and then the weapons are 

1985
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:45,520
obviously awesome too. 
So yeah, on the other hand, they

1986
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:47,640
might have gone pretty 
conservative with McCarthy. 

1987
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:51,480
So. 
But again, it's like just 

1988
01:45:51,480 --> 01:46:01,440
created wider ranges I think. 
Yeah, I think I'd, I think I'd 

1989
01:46:01,440 --> 01:46:05,080
go kick your defense here. 
But let's. 

1990
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:09,560
Get that Week 1 dub. 
Tolbert went. 

1991
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:11,360
That's his guy, went. 
Yeah. 

1992
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:16,840
Bateman's the only guy I'd be 
like, oh, I kind of like, I 

1993
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:18,160
wouldn't mind. 
Bateman but. 

1994
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:20,200
Yeah, we could. 
Yeah, I wouldn't # the table for

1995
01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:23,520
him either. 
We could do one of, I feel. 

1996
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:26,480
Like I would even be like one of
these tight ends. 

1997
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:29,200
We could push kicker. 
We could. 

1998
01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:33,400
So many tight ends that I like, 
I know kind of like here that 

1999
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:35,280
that's where I'm like, well, if 
we're going to do that, let's 

2000
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:36,920
just take the kicker and defense
now. 

2001
01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:38,480
And yeah. 
OK. 

2002
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:42,200
We kicker before defense, I 
think kicker were taking like 

2003
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:47,920
like like a really good kicker 
defense defense. 

2004
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:50,960
We could maybe wait because 
we're kind of just streaming it 

2005
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:51,920
like but. 
I thought you said do. 

2006
01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:55,200
You think you? 
Start the Bengals a good chunk. 

2007
01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:58,360
To start the year, I'm just 
saying it's not like you're 

2008
01:46:58,360 --> 01:46:59,920
getting one that you're starting
like the. 

2009
01:46:59,920 --> 01:47:02,560
Whole no, no, but getting a 
defense you're starting. 

2010
01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:07,000
I think they are are highest 
projected, at least on the main 

2011
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:08,680
slate. 
I didn't look at all the other 

2012
01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:11,240
slates as the Bengals. 
Because they have the Patriots. 

2013
01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:11,720
At. 
Home. 

2014
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:14,160
Oh, but Week 2, they're at the 
Chiefs, but then they get the 

2015
01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:16,200
Commanders and Panthers. 
Got it. 

2016
01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:17,760
Right. 
And that's the three out of 

2017
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:19,640
four. 
If you just eat the Chiefs game,

2018
01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:22,480
it's three really good ones, you
know? 

2019
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:24,680
Yeah. 
I mean very good. 

2020
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:27,640
Yeah, I would. 
And KU is is in our tier one at 

2021
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:29,000
kickers. 
I think so. 

2022
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:32,040
Bears. 
Bears have the Titans at home 

2023
01:47:32,480 --> 01:47:36,200
week 1 and then they're oh, then
they go at the Texans. 

2024
01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:37,840
They have the same issue. 
Nothing in Week 2. 

2025
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:39,200
Let's do the Bengals. 
I like that. 

2026
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:41,960
Yeah, Bengals. 
I I totally almost fucked that 

2027
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:45,600
up by the way. 
But don't I didn't bet you guys 

2028
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:48,000
good with Bengals. 
They're like up there in ADP, 

2029
01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:49,760
higher up in ADP than I 
realized. 

2030
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:53,240
I guess I would, I would be 
interested in abatement if you 

2031
01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:55,520
guys don't feel strongly about 
the defense and we can take 

2032
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:58,120
another one. 
But again, I'm OK. 

2033
01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:01,680
With that, I guess mine is like 
if he, if he, if Pete likes 

2034
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:04,960
these, there's a few tight ends 
that we like is stashed. 

2035
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:06,800
Well, wouldn't we take one of 
those anyway? 

2036
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:10,000
Don't we have? 
Yeah, yeah, I guess I was kind 

2037
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:13,240
of hoping for an emergency 
running back still even though. 

2038
01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:17,440
The back there's like there's a 
ton of options at wide receiver 

2039
01:48:17,440 --> 01:48:18,640
and tight. 
End Let's go of the Bengals. 

2040
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:22,160
Looking at our queue. 
It's also possible that someone 

2041
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:24,240
slips just because a lot of 
these teams are going to be 

2042
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:28,000
taking kicker in defense now. 
And people will double tap it. 

2043
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:30,720
They'll you know, the Baltimore 
defensive draft already took 

2044
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:33,720
Cleveland defense, too. 
You took a kicker before we got 

2045
01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:39,320
a chance to play the clip. 
Liotti got out in front of it. 

2046
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:41,520
I want to chase some fucking 
kickers. 

2047
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:43,880
OK, we can chase. 
I mean, it's the last stream of 

2048
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:44,960
the year. 
I mean, we can chase some 

2049
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:47,560
fucking kickers for sure. 
And there's like a million clips

2050
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:49,360
in stream yard. 
Now I'm scrolling, trying to 

2051
01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:57,240
find these kicker chasing. 
It's the show where we chase the

2052
01:48:57,240 --> 01:49:00,080
best kickers. 
The kickers that help you win 

2053
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:04,000
championships, the biggest legs,
the breaking news. 

2054
01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:08,000
It's everything you come to love
and know. 

2055
01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:10,800
The time is now for kicker 
chasing. 

2056
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:23,920
Let's get some fucking kickers. 
Is Justin Tucker the only kicker

2057
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:30,760
in that video still in the foul?
I think that's like the 

2058
01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:33,320
Tennessee one. 
Like, is that like Randy Bullock

2059
01:49:33,320 --> 01:49:34,960
or something? 
And the first guy's that 

2060
01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:36,720
Rodrigo? 
What was that? 

2061
01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:38,000
Blankenship. 
Blankenship. 

2062
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:39,880
Yeah, Blankenship. 
He's not in the league anymore. 

2063
01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:42,560
Who's the the Cardinals guy that
got hurt? 

2064
01:49:47,440 --> 01:49:53,520
Man, I don't remember. 
Oh, I remember that 'cause that 

2065
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:56,600
was like the whole. 
He had a whole conversation 

2066
01:49:56,600 --> 01:49:58,800
about. 
The the backup kicker and then 

2067
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:02,760
he got he got hurt, but you had 
dropped him anyways for matchup 

2068
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:04,120
purposes. 
He dodged it. 

2069
01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:08,520
Was it? 
No, it wasn't. 

2070
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:09,640
Was it lying? 
It was what the. 

2071
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:12,240
Fuck was it? 
It was Chandler Catanzaro. 

2072
01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:13,680
Is. 
That right? 

2073
01:50:13,960 --> 01:50:17,720
Who It was? 
Yeah, I remember that. 

2074
01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:19,600
Catanzaro rings a bell. 
Yeah. 

2075
01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:23,480
Yeah, I don't think that was it.
OK. 

2076
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:26,920
No, that's a certain. 
It could have it definitely. 

2077
01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:30,720
It definitely could have been. 
Let's look at Cardinals kicker 

2078
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:35,360
history and. 
In case you guys are wondering, 

2079
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:38,240
this is a normal search history 
for Mike Leone. 

2080
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:43,040
Catanzaro was out of the league 
by 20. 

2081
01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:45,480
Gonzalez. 
Yeah, it wasn't Catanzaro. 

2082
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:51,600
It was Zane Gonzalez. 
Zane Gonzalez Yeah, I knew there

2083
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:56,840
was AZ in there, yeah. 
That there was. 

2084
01:50:56,840 --> 01:51:00,240
I knew it started with AZ. 
I'm glad. 

2085
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:01,160
Oh. 
I mean, is he still? 

2086
01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:04,960
The leak is Zane Gonzalez. 
I don't think. 

2087
01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:08,440
So for somebody. 
I think there's like. 4 kickers 

2088
01:51:08,440 --> 01:51:10,080
in that video and 1:00. 
Is still in the NFL. 

2089
01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:14,480
Zane Gonzalez says he's on the 
Carolina Panthers here. 

2090
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:16,960
I don't know if he's their 
starter. 

2091
01:51:17,480 --> 01:51:21,240
If you guys had obviously not 
looking at this right now in 

2092
01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:25,840
maybe say an hour ago, if I were
to give you a quiz with every 

2093
01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:29,080
single team and you just had to 
fill in their starting kicker, 

2094
01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:31,160
how many do you think you would 
have gotten right? 

2095
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:35,360
Very few. 
It's just embarrassing with you,

2096
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:37,240
yeah. 
I think I think I'd probably tap

2097
01:51:37,240 --> 01:51:40,320
out at like 10. 
I think I was gonna say 8 to 10,

2098
01:51:40,440 --> 01:51:44,840
yeah, all these guys on the 
board, I would have got these 6.

2099
01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:47,840
I and I know because I keep 
taking Norvison. 

2100
01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:50,600
I think he's the best kicker in 
the league since since last 

2101
01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:53,800
week. 
I mean you, you would get 

2102
01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:57,600
Tucker, Butler, Fairburn, who, 
who's. 

2103
01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:00,480
Iconic on the Elliott's been so 
solidified with the ego. 

2104
01:52:00,480 --> 01:52:01,760
Tyler Bass. 
Yeah. 

2105
01:52:02,480 --> 01:52:03,960
Elliott. 
McPherson. 

2106
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:09,120
McPherson I like I might have 
frozen live, though if you made 

2107
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:11,080
me do it live, I might have 
frozen and not thought of. 

2108
01:52:11,480 --> 01:52:14,120
Them, but I probably am guessing
Nick Folk at some point. 

2109
01:52:14,480 --> 01:52:18,080
I'm pretty sure he's. 
Jason Myers seems to always be 

2110
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:20,040
on a team. 
I don't know if he is still. 

2111
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:22,280
Oh, are we? 
Are we saying, do you know? 

2112
01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:22,600
What? 
Yeah. 

2113
01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:24,480
Do we have to name the? 
Do we have to name the? 

2114
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:25,840
Right. 
Team yes, it's not just. 

2115
01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:26,680
Name. 
Oh, Nick Folkman. 

2116
01:52:26,680 --> 01:52:29,240
That's. 
Yeah, I would have got that 

2117
01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:30,280
wrong. 
I would have said he was kicking

2118
01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:33,320
for the Patriots for sure. 
Moody. 

2119
01:52:33,320 --> 01:52:35,960
If I if I had gone through the 
team systematically, I would 

2120
01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:38,440
have gotten Moody, but I still 
don't think I would have gotten 

2121
01:52:38,440 --> 01:52:41,040
more than 10. 
Like, do any of you know who the

2122
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:42,960
kicker is for the Rams without 
looking? 

2123
01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:45,800
I would see. 
I know it used to be Matt Gay. 

2124
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:47,480
Now he's on the Colts. 
So I would have gotten it for 

2125
01:52:47,480 --> 01:52:50,560
the Colts, but I would not have 
gotten it for the Rams. 

2126
01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:52,600
I was trying to remember Matt 
Gay's name. 

2127
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:55,760
Is where I'm at on a different 
team. 

2128
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:00,840
It looks like it's. 
Something I didn't remember his 

2129
01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:06,400
name, Ben Dicker, the. 
Kicker we probably would have 

2130
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:08,240
gotten. 
Dicker, the kicker. 

2131
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:09,600
After that kicker. 
Was that? 

2132
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:11,720
Dicker, the kicker I would have 
gotten. 

2133
01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:15,000
That Pam Little the kicker for 
the Jags now? 

2134
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:19,080
Yeah, by chance? 
No. 0 percentchi, yes. 

2135
01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:21,800
Matt Prater's still with the 
Cardinals. 

2136
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:24,520
I just looked at the Cardinals 
and I I should ask you guys 

2137
01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:25,080
that. 
But I think. 

2138
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:30,160
I wouldn't guess that. 
There's a guy named Will 

2139
01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:32,360
Reichard that's kicking for the 
Vikings. 

2140
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:36,680
Nope, wouldn't have got that. 
No, these are great. 

2141
01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:42,240
I'm going to throw them all in 
the queue though, just so we can

2142
01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:50,040
learn their names. 
I'm going to find one that quiz 

2143
01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:51,880
you guys on that. 
I think it's gettable, but I'm 

2144
01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:53,560
not a hard time. 
OK, here's one that's maybe, 

2145
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:57,800
maybe gettable. 
The Giants, This guy's been 

2146
01:53:57,800 --> 01:54:04,240
around a little bit. 
Jason Myers, he kicked for the. 

2147
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:09,280
Panthers at one Seattle Myers 
might still be in Seattle. 

2148
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:12,680
Pinero, Eddie Pinero. 
Good guess. 

2149
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:14,200
Oh, it's. 
Graham Cano. 

2150
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:15,920
Graham Cano is Graham Cano, 
yeah. 

2151
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:17,560
It was a good guess though, 
yeah. 

2152
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:21,240
I just want to go have a long 
time skinks kicker. 

2153
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:24,240
Oh yeah. 
Will what? 

2154
01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:28,720
Will Lutz is with the Broncos 
right now, man. 

2155
01:54:29,120 --> 01:54:32,400
They love it. 
Dude, I've got some guys to make

2156
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:34,560
cases for it here at this 1920 
turn. 

2157
01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:36,960
I'm ready. 
Leonie has named the same 

2158
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:40,520
running back like three times 
and then slash ducks every time.

2159
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:41,800
Like how many ducks are you 
going to? 

2160
01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:46,000
You going to? 
I want to last time, last time, 

2161
01:54:46,280 --> 01:54:49,200
last time I did that, it was 
Elijah Mitchell and everyone 

2162
01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:53,360
ignored me. 
I'm actually not ignoring you. 

2163
01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:59,240
I will say as a it's very 
similar to what we did with the 

2164
01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:01,240
Blake Corum pick. 
That's all I'll say. 

2165
01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:05,800
I I was legit going to say like,
is Damien Pierce totally dead? 

2166
01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:08,520
Like, would you? 
He's like, I think he just went 

2167
01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:10,400
yeah, but like, I, I think I 
would have been like him. 

2168
01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:13,400
Maybe we should see if he's the 
RB2 at this this point. 

2169
01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:17,240
But it's he was so bad last year
that it's like he has to be like

2170
01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:18,720
I. 
I hate leaving the light on for 

2171
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:20,920
this player I think is bad, you 
know what I mean? 

2172
01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:25,400
That's fair, that's fair. 
Derogatory or non derogatory? 

2173
01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:27,760
I. 
Meant it non derogatory but all 

2174
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:33,000
I think about is the derogatory 
con conversation now. 

2175
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:37,880
Sam Sherman had a truth serum 
today that the basically elite 

2176
01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:40,120
tight end is bad and that we 
should take the tight ends going

2177
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:42,560
tight end 7 through tight end 12
instead of one through 6. 

2178
01:55:43,160 --> 01:55:47,280
And me and Davis specified 
derogatory on our that's fairs 

2179
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:53,840
derogatory. 
We said derogatory. 

2180
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:58,400
That's fair. 
Terrified. 

2181
01:55:58,400 --> 01:56:01,280
He's right, though. 
No, I'm not. 

2182
01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:03,800
I'm way too. 
Confident in that well just 

2183
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:05,400
because it would be very bad for
the bags. 

2184
01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:06,920
Yeah, it. 
Would be very. 

2185
01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:11,120
Bad. 
It's just like, I don't think 

2186
01:56:11,120 --> 01:56:13,360
how all seven of these profiles 
could fail. 

2187
01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:16,280
I just that would be. 
Well, he took Kittle for his. 

2188
01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:18,640
That was part of it. 
He he stole Kittle because he's 

2189
01:56:18,640 --> 01:56:20,000
going to. 
Yeah. 

2190
01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:21,320
Got it. 
He took kettle. 

2191
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:23,920
Yeah. 
That seems unfair. 

2192
01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:27,280
It is. 
I mean, he's, he's framing it 

2193
01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:30,200
disingenuously. 
But yeah, yeah, that's part of 

2194
01:56:30,200 --> 01:56:34,120
the fun of the of ADP chasing. 
I guess if you, I guess when you

2195
01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:37,960
say there's 12 teams, so you're 
just cutting it in half and 

2196
01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:40,520
yeah, you get the top 6, I get 
the other six. 

2197
01:56:40,520 --> 01:56:41,960
That's. 
I feel like everyone's been 

2198
01:56:41,960 --> 01:56:44,880
pretty clear though, that it's 
like a a top seven, especially 

2199
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:47,160
an underdog. 
Literally everyone has been 

2200
01:56:47,160 --> 01:56:51,760
clear by drafting those players 
together as opposed to and then 

2201
01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:52,360
on the. 
Gap. 

2202
01:56:52,400 --> 01:56:57,520
There's other sites even top 
eight with Ingram on like like 

2203
01:56:58,000 --> 01:57:00,560
FFPC. 
I think there's good people on 

2204
01:57:00,560 --> 01:57:04,120
both sides and that's why I have
all the top seven tight ends mix

2205
01:57:04,120 --> 01:57:07,240
and match with every Brock 
Bowers configuration to match. 

2206
01:57:07,240 --> 01:57:10,920
Yeah, exactly. 
Yeah, I'm overweight, all the 

2207
01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:14,320
tight ends. 
I got a lot of I got a lot of a 

2208
01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:16,680
Joku tight end 2 bags too. 
I mean, there's. 

2209
01:57:17,480 --> 01:57:20,720
That's my own, like Pete 
Bestball Bros comment is I'll be

2210
01:57:20,720 --> 01:57:23,440
like, Oh yeah, I haven't gotten 
Kelsey with Bowers recently. 

2211
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:25,600
Or like, Oh yeah, I haven't had 
a pitch with Bowers. 

2212
01:57:25,680 --> 01:57:27,800
It's always just like the other 
guys. 

2213
01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:30,400
I have it paired with Bowers. 
That's great. 

2214
01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:34,240
That's amazing. 
So there I think we should take 

2215
01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:37,400
one of these tight ends. 
I think there's like a few tight

2216
01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:39,600
ends, let's do it. 
And then I think like. 

2217
01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:42,960
The tight ends. 
I mean, we could take two, but I

2218
01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:44,880
just feel like we should 
probably, even though it's a 

2219
01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:47,440
miracle throw, probably take a 
running back. 

2220
01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:52,760
Yeah, I'm I'm fine. 
I'm the guy you want to keep 

2221
01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:54,040
ducking. 
Running back idea. 

2222
01:57:54,920 --> 01:58:02,000
Yeah, I'm fine with it. 
I would say I'm most interested 

2223
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:04,120
in the tight end at the very top
of the queue. 

2224
01:58:04,120 --> 01:58:06,960
Kind of your same thought 
process of like, where's Damien 

2225
01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:09,240
Pierce on the depth chart? 
Like let's just see what these 

2226
01:58:09,240 --> 01:58:16,600
snaps are like in Week 1. 
Probably be mine, but yeah, 

2227
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:18,560
that's a good one. 
Grudge too that you just put in.

2228
01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:20,720
I mean that's that's I'd be fine
with that too. 

2229
01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:21,960
I like that call. 
I don't. 

2230
01:58:22,160 --> 01:58:24,240
I don't have a strong take, I'm 
just throwing names. 

2231
01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:27,920
That look. 
I think I mean this is true just

2232
01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:30,400
like let's just see if they have
any kind of semblance. 

2233
01:58:30,440 --> 01:58:34,000
Of a role and we Burundo is 
interesting in terms of 

2234
01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:36,800
definitely has more upside than 
the guy I'm thinking of, which 

2235
01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:40,600
is Emmanuel Wilson. 
Mine is kind of like they're 

2236
01:58:40,600 --> 01:58:43,960
clearly comfortable going into 
the season with Boyd not 

2237
01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:47,800
practicing. 
Like if if Jacobs gets hurt Week

2238
01:58:47,800 --> 01:58:52,400
1, you know, it might be Wilson 
for a, for a good time, yeah. 

2239
01:58:53,960 --> 01:58:55,680
They're very thin right now. 
I like it. 

2240
01:58:56,040 --> 01:58:58,720
We might see a lot of Wilson in 
their first game, like we 

2241
01:58:58,720 --> 01:59:01,640
honestly might see 30% of the 
snaps or something. 

2242
01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:05,320
Which tight end do you like? 
Greg I. 

2243
01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:09,560
I. 
Mean I'm open, but I like Mayer,

2244
01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:13,200
I think probably the best. 
Yeah, I think I like Craft or 

2245
01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:16,280
Mayer the best, then Theo 
Johnson, then Disley are the 

2246
01:59:16,280 --> 01:59:20,320
ones we have in the queue. 
I just think like it's there's a

2247
01:59:20,320 --> 01:59:23,560
greater than non zero chance 
that Tucker Kraft is just their 

2248
01:59:23,720 --> 01:59:26,720
lead tight end like out of the 
gate and it would be a pretty 

2249
01:59:26,720 --> 01:59:29,800
sick bink you. 
Think so if we're. 

2250
01:59:29,800 --> 01:59:33,040
Just kind of wrong. 
I mean, the like the reading how

2251
01:59:33,040 --> 01:59:35,400
the beats have been talking 
about Kraft, like they've just 

2252
01:59:35,440 --> 01:59:36,880
routinely said he's their best 
tight end. 

2253
01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:39,160
Like like the past few weeks 
over. 

2254
01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:40,760
And they drafted Hessgrave 
higher. 

2255
01:59:40,760 --> 01:59:44,640
He played more as a rookie and 
he had a better yards per out 

2256
01:59:44,640 --> 01:59:47,120
run. 
But yeah, but they, I mean, it's

2257
01:59:47,120 --> 01:59:49,720
hard because Musgrave got hurt, 
so it's hard to parse the end of

2258
01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:53,040
the season. 
But it did seem like Kraft was 

2259
01:59:54,000 --> 01:59:58,360
at least even with him. 
And I just think, Mayor, I mean,

2260
01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:00,520
we're not going to be holding it
like we know Bowers is just 

2261
02:00:00,520 --> 02:00:03,640
going to come to. 
I guess it would be if we wanted

2262
02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:06,720
more of a spot start a spot 
start early, then I'm more 

2263
02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:09,240
interested in to mayor as a. 
Whole I don't, I don't have any 

2264
02:00:09,240 --> 02:00:12,680
information anywhere. 
So yeah, yeah, this is a good 

2265
02:00:12,680 --> 02:00:16,520
take I want to get exposure to. 
This the information and then 

2266
02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:19,320
easy cut if he's clearly behind 
Musgrave. 

2267
02:00:19,760 --> 02:00:21,760
Can we cut him after the 
Thursday night game before 

2268
02:00:21,760 --> 02:00:23,000
Sunday? 
I don't think so. 

2269
02:00:24,840 --> 02:00:28,200
I mean, we we'd have we'd have 
some sick free runs here on, on 

2270
02:00:28,200 --> 02:00:31,080
Wilson and Kraft, but I don't 
think, yeah, because it's 

2271
02:00:31,080 --> 02:00:32,920
self-contained. 
I don't think they do that. 

2272
02:00:33,680 --> 02:00:37,400
Yeah. 
That's, I mean, that's great 

2273
02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:42,160
all. 
Right, we landed the plane. 

2274
02:00:43,760 --> 02:00:47,640
Here's the team. 
CJ Stroud at quarterback right 

2275
02:00:47,640 --> 02:00:48,400
here. 
We'll we'll go. 

2276
02:00:48,560 --> 02:00:49,960
We'll start at the top. 
We we'll go. 

2277
02:00:49,960 --> 02:00:54,120
Puka, Trey McBride, Kyle Pitts, 
Debo Samuel, Xavier Worthy, Roma

2278
02:00:54,120 --> 02:00:57,800
Dunze, Jane Reid, CJ Stroud, And
then six straight running backs.

2279
02:00:57,800 --> 02:01:00,320
Rico Dowdell, Blake Gorm, Ray 
Davis, Braylon Allen, Kamani 

2280
02:01:00,320 --> 02:01:03,200
Bedell, Antonio Gibson. 
Double tap these rookie wide 

2281
02:01:03,200 --> 02:01:05,400
receivers Xavier Leggett and 
Jalen McMillan. 

2282
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:08,520
Grab it young ho ku, Cincinnati 
defense. 

2283
02:01:08,520 --> 02:01:11,120
And then a little Packers cheese
dip at the end. 

2284
02:01:11,120 --> 02:01:13,680
Emmanuel Wilson and Tucker 
Craft. 

2285
02:01:14,320 --> 02:01:15,640
How we feeling about this one 
guys? 

2286
02:01:17,200 --> 02:01:18,360
Very. 
Team. 

2287
02:01:22,640 --> 02:01:26,480
I know, yeah, Crutch doesn't 
like Rico, which is, you know, 

2288
02:01:27,800 --> 02:01:30,360
he's the ninth round pick. 
So it's not key to the team, but

2289
02:01:30,360 --> 02:01:33,600
it's also kind of key cuz we're 
counting on him starting from 

2290
02:01:33,600 --> 02:01:34,760
Week 1. 
But I don't know, I think it's a

2291
02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:37,120
really fun team. 
We went zero RB. 

2292
02:01:37,120 --> 02:01:42,400
We get the elite quarterback at 
a very big discount and you guys

2293
02:01:42,400 --> 02:01:44,680
were really disciplined and 
making sure we just hit running 

2294
02:01:44,680 --> 02:01:47,320
back six straight rounds, which 
we absolutely had to do. 

2295
02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:53,120
I like the team. 
Yeah, I mean, I've been big on 

2296
02:01:53,120 --> 02:01:56,480
Rico, especially in basketball 
where, you know, I think he just

2297
02:01:56,920 --> 02:02:00,080
like fits builds well because I 
do think he has kind of a, a 

2298
02:02:00,640 --> 02:02:02,400
high floor in a sense. 
And like, I think it's 

2299
02:02:02,400 --> 02:02:05,480
interesting to take him right 
next to core because like I 

2300
02:02:05,480 --> 02:02:07,720
think he has like just as much 
contingent value as quorum in a 

2301
02:02:07,720 --> 02:02:09,640
sense. 
But then he maybe he's the guy 

2302
02:02:09,640 --> 02:02:13,480
to start, But the reason I've 
been, you know, kind of pulled 

2303
02:02:13,480 --> 02:02:16,000
to him is that I think he lets 
you do stuff like there's 

2304
02:02:16,000 --> 02:02:17,840
utility to Dowdle. 
And this would be like an 

2305
02:02:17,840 --> 02:02:18,560
example of it. 
To me. 

2306
02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:22,720
It was like we not only did we 
take him as our RB one in the 

2307
02:02:22,720 --> 02:02:24,920
ninth round, the end of the 
ninth round, but then we took 

2308
02:02:24,920 --> 02:02:27,920
upside swings after. 
I'm glad you guys pushed us away

2309
02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:30,440
from JK Dobbins and went to 
bigger swings. 

2310
02:02:30,440 --> 02:02:34,360
Like I, I like him paired with a
bunch of big swings. 

2311
02:02:34,640 --> 02:02:36,840
Close it out with a guy we 
probably start Week 1 and 

2312
02:02:36,840 --> 02:02:40,680
Gibson, but like this we're 
potentially scoring a lot of 

2313
02:02:40,800 --> 02:02:43,640
points at running back in the, 
you know, back half of the 

2314
02:02:43,640 --> 02:02:45,760
season. 
Like this is not, you know, we 

2315
02:02:45,760 --> 02:02:47,800
did not punt running back here 
there there is upside. 

2316
02:02:48,720 --> 02:02:50,640
But at the same time I think we 
we will score points. 

2317
02:02:50,640 --> 02:02:53,880
We won. 
Yep. 

2318
02:02:54,800 --> 02:02:58,480
Jaden Reed at 712 was really 
good too, especially with, I 

2319
02:02:58,480 --> 02:03:00,400
don't know, I don't want to say 
a reach on a doomsday. 

2320
02:03:00,400 --> 02:03:04,320
It's a reach by ADP. 
And there were a lot of quote, 

2321
02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:07,200
UN quote, safe projectable 
volume receivers we passed on. 

2322
02:03:07,840 --> 02:03:11,480
So that 2V2, that pairing ended 
up really nice to just still get

2323
02:03:11,480 --> 02:03:13,560
Jayden Reid after we took a 
Doonese there. 

2324
02:03:14,320 --> 02:03:16,480
Yeah. 
Well, and a lot of the guys we 

2325
02:03:16,480 --> 02:03:20,160
were talking about Kirk Allen, 
JSN, they almost all come back. 

2326
02:03:20,160 --> 02:03:23,360
So I feel even better about 
grabbing Rome there because kind

2327
02:03:23,360 --> 02:03:26,680
of the other options, we're all 
making it back and then we get 

2328
02:03:26,680 --> 02:03:29,280
one of those guys. 
And even with Reed, one of the 

2329
02:03:29,280 --> 02:03:31,520
things to keep in mind is we 
took the two tight ends. 

2330
02:03:31,520 --> 02:03:33,560
So like a doomsday was a bench 
player. 

2331
02:03:33,560 --> 02:03:37,000
We're not playing 4 receivers. 
We're flexing 1 receiver and 

2332
02:03:37,000 --> 02:03:39,880
reflexing a tight end week 1. 
And then we're playing the two 

2333
02:03:40,040 --> 02:03:42,400
running backs. 
And so yeah, we're, I mean, 

2334
02:03:42,400 --> 02:03:44,880
assuming we play worthy over 
read, maybe, maybe we would want

2335
02:03:44,880 --> 02:03:45,520
to play read. 
I don't know. 

2336
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:48,040
I, I'm totally down to play for 
safety worthy week 1. 

2337
02:03:48,040 --> 02:03:52,560
But puka debo both those tight 
ends and then you have one flex 

2338
02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:55,400
receiver out of Reed worthy of 
doons A. 

2339
02:03:56,280 --> 02:03:57,920
You know. 
Rest of the bill. 

2340
02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:02,600
One thing I was kind of curious 
about there was a potential 2V2 

2341
02:04:02,640 --> 02:04:07,320
where we could have gone, let's 
say Chase Brown and Jordan love 

2342
02:04:07,640 --> 02:04:09,400
as opposed to CJ Stroud and 
Blake horn. 

2343
02:04:09,400 --> 02:04:13,680
Let's say do you guys because 
that love with the Reed pick 

2344
02:04:13,680 --> 02:04:16,680
falling I, I did have him in the
back of my mind. 

2345
02:04:16,680 --> 02:04:19,720
I, I think I prefer this one, 
but what do you guys think? 

2346
02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:23,360
I. 
I prefer this. 

2347
02:04:23,360 --> 02:04:27,560
Maybe I'm underestimating Love's
high on ceiling, but I prefer 

2348
02:04:27,560 --> 02:04:30,480
this one just because I think 
there's a chance Stroud just 

2349
02:04:30,480 --> 02:04:32,480
goes, you know, nuclear this 
year. 

2350
02:04:34,000 --> 02:04:36,600
So I do prefer this one in in 
managed. 

2351
02:04:37,080 --> 02:04:39,640
Like Leonie, I have kind of a 
meaningful gap on the QBs, but 

2352
02:04:39,640 --> 02:04:44,800
if you ask me, Chase Brown. 
I didn't say Rico, Rico, that's.

2353
02:04:46,280 --> 02:04:50,840
Not what I said you never. 
It wasn't the two V2 you asked. 

2354
02:04:53,280 --> 02:04:55,760
Yeah, it's hard to do the two V 
twos too, because you don't know

2355
02:04:55,760 --> 02:04:57,960
exactly like how other things 
would have changed. 

2356
02:04:57,960 --> 02:05:02,160
Like, right, in theory we could 
have done, you know, Chiron and 

2357
02:05:02,160 --> 02:05:06,320
Hollywood versus Debo and 
Quorum, but we don't know if it 

2358
02:05:06,320 --> 02:05:09,320
really would have shook out that
way because that's another 

2359
02:05:09,320 --> 02:05:11,440
running back off the board, 
that's what. 

2360
02:05:11,560 --> 02:05:14,960
That's what I was just looking 
at that exact what that ended up

2361
02:05:14,960 --> 02:05:17,240
being. 
So we had the Debo Stroud Rico. 

2362
02:05:17,240 --> 02:05:20,200
I think a reasonable one would 
have been a Chiron, Hollywood, 

2363
02:05:20,200 --> 02:05:23,800
Caleb. 
Those would have all have fit as

2364
02:05:23,800 --> 02:05:29,680
the the opposite of that. 
The Hollywood in 10, if I think 

2365
02:05:29,680 --> 02:05:33,280
if we, if we, if we knew, if you
100% knew we were getting 

2366
02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:37,200
Highwood in 10, we probably take
Chiron you like. 

2367
02:05:37,640 --> 02:05:39,440
Yeah, I think, I think you're 
right because it was, it was 

2368
02:05:39,480 --> 02:05:41,840
pretty damn close to begin with.
And that's a reasonable enough 

2369
02:05:41,840 --> 02:05:45,640
tiebreaker. 
Yeah, that was that was a tough 

2370
02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:52,120
decision point there, But I like
I like this one. 

2371
02:05:52,680 --> 02:05:54,200
It'll be fun to see how this 
shakes out. 

2372
02:05:54,200 --> 02:05:57,280
There were definitely some super
running back heavy teams in the 

2373
02:05:57,280 --> 02:06:01,000
league, but we're going to be in
such good shape at wide receiver

2374
02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:04,640
in tight end and quarterback 
that we've always said that too.

2375
02:06:04,640 --> 02:06:10,920
Like when you do the mega 0 RB 
having like, even even if one of

2376
02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:13,880
obviously like we can't afford 
one of these tight ends to bust,

2377
02:06:14,040 --> 02:06:18,600
but like even just nailing one 
of these guys in a huge way 

2378
02:06:19,240 --> 02:06:23,720
would be such a a win in in that
we've given ourselves so many 

2379
02:06:23,720 --> 02:06:26,600
cracks at just an awesome 
starting lineup outside of 

2380
02:06:26,600 --> 02:06:34,880
running back. 
Yeah, if we can, yeah, We can 

2381
02:06:34,880 --> 02:06:37,080
survive the beginning of the 
season being so good at the 

2382
02:06:37,080 --> 02:06:41,040
other positions and just having,
you know, startable guys in Rico

2383
02:06:41,040 --> 02:06:45,400
and Gibson and then just, you 
know, one injury or one breakout

2384
02:06:45,400 --> 02:06:48,760
goes the right way at running 
back and then it's like, or 

2385
02:06:48,800 --> 02:06:51,280
cocaine. 
I really, really like having 

2386
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:54,440
Videl and I know Gretsch that 
kind of tied the room together 

2387
02:06:54,440 --> 02:06:56,800
for you too. 
But like there's one where we 

2388
02:06:56,800 --> 02:07:01,080
don't need an injury, right? 
That's that's to me like, yeah, 

2389
02:07:01,080 --> 02:07:05,280
you maybe it would help. 
But like, there's a case where 

2390
02:07:05,280 --> 02:07:08,520
he's just good and by like week 
four or five, they're like, he's

2391
02:07:08,520 --> 02:07:12,960
our best back, right? 
That's what that's why I really 

2392
02:07:12,960 --> 02:07:15,120
like him and I really like the 
Allen thing as well. 

2393
02:07:15,120 --> 02:07:20,080
But it's, it's just, you know, 
you're behind Breece Hall, you 

2394
02:07:20,080 --> 02:07:22,600
need an injury, right? 
And and no one really wants to 

2395
02:07:22,600 --> 02:07:24,080
even think about Breece Hall 
getting hurt. 

2396
02:07:24,480 --> 02:07:28,400
The I'm a little less in on Ray 
Davis and you guys. 

2397
02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:31,000
I, I feel like the Buffalo 
running back situation is a 

2398
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:33,640
little tricky. 
Josh Allen rush TV's under the 

2399
02:07:33,640 --> 02:07:36,880
new OC late last year. 
And then also just the profile. 

2400
02:07:37,200 --> 02:07:39,880
I know like again, I, I, I end 
up leading on Sean a lot with 

2401
02:07:39,880 --> 02:07:42,840
the, the prospect stuff, but I 
know he was not as high on Ray. 

2402
02:07:42,840 --> 02:07:47,560
I think he would have had a like
the whole Videl Lloyd, Braylon 

2403
02:07:47,560 --> 02:07:50,080
Allen group ahead of Ray Davis. 
We had a. 

2404
02:07:50,080 --> 02:07:51,520
Draft. 
But we do get two of those guys,

2405
02:07:52,160 --> 02:07:53,720
yeah. 
Yeah, we still got we got 

2406
02:07:53,720 --> 02:07:56,320
multiple of them for sure. 
And and Quorum's another one 

2407
02:07:56,320 --> 02:07:59,440
that from a profile and talent 
perspective perspective, I know 

2408
02:07:59,440 --> 02:08:01,560
he was a little bit more down on
some people have some questions 

2409
02:08:01,560 --> 02:08:04,800
about, but Videl's one that like
if you're into these, like the 

2410
02:08:04,840 --> 02:08:07,200
idea of like the profile stuff 
like and Pat said like it 

2411
02:08:07,200 --> 02:08:09,760
doesn't even necessarily take an
injury if he's just, I think he 

2412
02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:12,560
might play in week 1. 
Like that's one of my true CM 

2413
02:08:12,560 --> 02:08:16,000
things is I think he's going to 
play like 30% of the snaps in 

2414
02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:18,080
week 1 and people are going to 
be like, oh shit, he's this 

2415
02:08:18,080 --> 02:08:20,600
year's chyron. 
After week, we're trying to. 

2416
02:08:20,640 --> 02:08:22,840
Figure out and. 
Even. 

2417
02:08:23,320 --> 02:08:25,760
That. 
Would be fucking fun. 

2418
02:08:28,400 --> 02:08:30,800
Yeah, we've, we've been legit 
talking about that doing the DFS

2419
02:08:30,800 --> 02:08:33,640
projections where it's like is, 
is he going to play like more of

2420
02:08:33,640 --> 02:08:35,360
a pass down role? 
Like, because we're like short 

2421
02:08:35,360 --> 02:08:37,320
on running back targets for the 
team and we're like. 

2422
02:08:37,320 --> 02:08:39,320
Right, Gus doesn't play in the 
pass downs. 

2423
02:08:39,400 --> 02:08:42,280
JK Dumps is still coming back 
from an Achilles like and he's a

2424
02:08:42,280 --> 02:08:45,280
really good pass blocker. 
There's some stuff that he can 

2425
02:08:45,280 --> 02:08:47,360
do. 
Overall, they gave him a lot of 

2426
02:08:47,360 --> 02:08:49,520
work in that second game and 
then they put him on ice in the 

2427
02:08:49,520 --> 02:08:51,320
third game. 
In the preseason, everyone's was

2428
02:08:51,320 --> 02:08:53,680
worried about that first game, 
which rightfully so, but they 

2429
02:08:53,760 --> 02:08:56,480
they gave him like 14 touches. 
He was 11 rushes and three 

2430
02:08:56,480 --> 02:08:59,280
catches in the second game. 
Used him a lot but they wanted 

2431
02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:01,400
to get a look at him clearly and
then they put him on ice. 

2432
02:09:02,960 --> 02:09:05,080
And Patterson's practice squad, 
right? 

2433
02:09:05,120 --> 02:09:07,720
I mean, he's not, he's not even 
up with the team, right? 

2434
02:09:07,720 --> 02:09:09,760
It's just those 3 running backs.
They brought it. 

2435
02:09:09,760 --> 02:09:12,920
No, They brought in Hassan 
Haskins, who Arbach coached in 

2436
02:09:12,920 --> 02:09:14,720
college. 
But somebody pointed out that he

2437
02:09:14,720 --> 02:09:17,920
plays special teams. 
So I mean, he wasn't with them 

2438
02:09:17,920 --> 02:09:21,000
all August. 
I doubt he's like a big but 

2439
02:09:21,000 --> 02:09:27,520
he'll be active probably. 
Leoni, it's always a pleasure 

2440
02:09:27,520 --> 02:09:30,240
getting to draft with you and 
like I said, we're gonna draft 

2441
02:09:30,240 --> 02:09:31,960
another one of these in a few 
days. 

2442
02:09:31,960 --> 02:09:35,040
Won't be on stream, but we'll be
sure to post the the final 

2443
02:09:35,040 --> 02:09:39,360
version of that team on Twitter.
Same same format, 5K, big 

2444
02:09:39,360 --> 02:09:40,960
playback. 
It's just three of us are going 

2445
02:09:40,960 --> 02:09:43,200
to be in Vegas and we will miss 
you. 

2446
02:09:43,560 --> 02:09:47,840
Leone, I know you guys are deep 
in the lab for all things week 

2447
02:09:47,840 --> 02:09:50,440
1. 
Anything you want people to 

2448
02:09:50,440 --> 02:09:52,840
check out over at Establish the 
Run right now? 

2449
02:09:54,160 --> 02:09:57,280
Yeah, just we got our DFS stuff 
going, so check that out. 

2450
02:09:57,280 --> 02:10:00,680
The Sims were teaming up with 
solver to work on. 

2451
02:10:00,680 --> 02:10:02,160
I'm really excited for those 
this year. 

2452
02:10:02,160 --> 02:10:05,960
You'll be able to edit your the 
projection on a player and have 

2453
02:10:05,960 --> 02:10:10,480
the SIM kind of adjust, not 
perfectly, but enough good 

2454
02:10:10,480 --> 02:10:14,000
enough that if you have your own
takes, I think that'll be really

2455
02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:15,120
valuable. 
You shouldn't do it for like 

2456
02:10:15,120 --> 02:10:17,160
every player, but if you have 
like three to five guys, you're 

2457
02:10:17,160 --> 02:10:20,320
just like, oh, the Stroud stacks
are better than, you know, ECR 

2458
02:10:20,320 --> 02:10:22,920
projects. 
I think that is is going to be a

2459
02:10:22,920 --> 02:10:25,160
lot of fun to be able to fool 
around with that and see like at

2460
02:10:25,160 --> 02:10:27,600
what point does it become plus 
ROI or not. 

2461
02:10:27,960 --> 02:10:30,240
So yeah, check that stuff out, 
yeah. 

2462
02:10:30,240 --> 02:10:33,560
We used to bully the optimizer 
and now you can bully The Sims. 

2463
02:10:34,240 --> 02:10:38,240
That's how we do it. 
Pat, what do you got going on 

2464
02:10:38,240 --> 02:10:41,400
over at Legendary Upside here? 
I know you just released your 

2465
02:10:41,720 --> 02:10:46,800
content schedule for in season. 
Yeah, Steph Miller just had an 

2466
02:10:46,800 --> 02:10:51,840
article out today as we talked 
about her, her fabulous waiver 

2467
02:10:51,840 --> 02:10:53,280
wire article. 
So check that out. 

2468
02:10:54,480 --> 02:10:57,000
I'm working on the walkthrough, 
which is going to drop before I 

2469
02:10:57,000 --> 02:10:59,840
head out to Vegas. 
Got Matt Irby, a new writer on 

2470
02:10:59,840 --> 02:11:02,240
the site who's going to be 
profile or previewing the 

2471
02:11:02,240 --> 02:11:05,960
Thursday Night Football game 
every week and also doing this 

2472
02:11:05,960 --> 02:11:07,880
Sunday and Monday night games 
every week. 

2473
02:11:07,880 --> 02:11:10,440
He's also doing the Friday night
game this week. 

2474
02:11:10,440 --> 02:11:15,640
So ton of content coming out and
we're also adding weekly 

2475
02:11:15,640 --> 02:11:16,680
rankings. 
So I'm going to do weekly 

2476
02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:20,360
positional redraft rankings with
help from Steph Miller, Miller, 

2477
02:11:20,360 --> 02:11:26,320
Daniel Razz and Sacrilegious. 
Awesome Gretsch, putting a bow 

2478
02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:30,120
on your redraft content. 
What can people expect here? 

2479
02:11:30,120 --> 02:11:33,800
What should they check out other
than a flurry of posts over the 

2480
02:11:33,800 --> 02:11:36,400
past couple weeks? 
Yeah, I mean, basically the 

2481
02:11:36,400 --> 02:11:38,360
whole month it's been a lot of 
content. 

2482
02:11:38,360 --> 02:11:42,400
Probably gonna close that down 
for the rest of the week for the

2483
02:11:42,400 --> 02:11:44,400
trip to Vegas. 
And then obviously stealing 

2484
02:11:44,400 --> 02:11:51,040
signals will be in in boxes next
Monday, tomorrow at I believe, I

2485
02:11:51,040 --> 02:11:52,640
guess it'd be 1 Eastern 10 
Pacific. 

2486
02:11:52,640 --> 02:11:56,640
I think it is. 
Sean and I are reged for a main 

2487
02:11:56,640 --> 02:12:01,120
and going to be in streaming 
that on the stealing signals 

2488
02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:03,600
YouTube. 
So come hang if you want to 

2489
02:12:03,600 --> 02:12:07,200
watch a main tomorrow morning or
awesome depending where you. 

2490
02:12:08,480 --> 02:12:12,080
Are a few ship chasing, 
housekeeping things? 

2491
02:12:12,080 --> 02:12:16,280
So like I said, we're heading 
out to Vegas on Thursday. 

2492
02:12:16,280 --> 02:12:18,680
If you guys are around drafting,
definitely come say hi. 

2493
02:12:19,520 --> 02:12:22,840
We will be at the Thursday night
watch party Friday. 

2494
02:12:22,840 --> 02:12:25,280
We're hosting our own party 
after the game. 

2495
02:12:25,280 --> 02:12:28,440
That's gonna be at Blondies, 
which is in the Planet Hollywood

2496
02:12:28,440 --> 02:12:32,440
complex there, not far from 
where all of the drafts are 

2497
02:12:32,440 --> 02:12:34,040
taking place. 
That's open to anyone. 

2498
02:12:34,040 --> 02:12:36,480
We just rented the backroom, so 
feel free to swing by. 

2499
02:12:36,480 --> 02:12:39,080
If you guys are in Vegas, 
there's going to be a lot of 

2500
02:12:39,080 --> 02:12:41,720
ship chasers there hanging out. 
And I should also mention if you

2501
02:12:41,720 --> 02:12:45,640
guys are YouTube members in in 
the Discord, there's a thread 

2502
02:12:45,880 --> 02:12:49,000
within the main ship chasing 
channel just for Vegas. 

2503
02:12:49,000 --> 02:12:51,280
So if you guys are going and 
you're in there, I know people 

2504
02:12:51,280 --> 02:12:53,960
have been making some plans for 
Wednesday night and other 

2505
02:12:53,960 --> 02:12:55,760
things. 
Definitely hop in there. 

2506
02:12:55,760 --> 02:12:58,320
That'll be probably a good point
of communication. 

2507
02:12:58,720 --> 02:12:59,960
Otherwise, yeah, we'll see you 
in Vegas. 

2508
02:12:59,960 --> 02:13:03,960
And then as far as programming 
next week we're going to have, 

2509
02:13:04,080 --> 02:13:06,400
so the ADP chasing guys just 
announced they're going to be 

2510
02:13:06,400 --> 02:13:10,000
doing an hour show on Mondays in
season that shows going to 

2511
02:13:10,000 --> 02:13:12,360
continue. 
We will have the return of stat 

2512
02:13:12,360 --> 02:13:15,120
chasing with Draco and 
Sacrilegious. 

2513
02:13:15,120 --> 02:13:16,560
That's going to be on Tuesday 
nights. 

2514
02:13:16,760 --> 02:13:19,480
And then we'll have the ship 
cast every single Thursday night

2515
02:13:19,680 --> 02:13:23,560
at 8:00 PM Eastern, our live 
hang sponsored by Underdog where

2516
02:13:23,560 --> 02:13:26,160
we'll share pickums, bring on 
guests, what the games, 

2517
02:13:26,160 --> 02:13:28,920
giveaways, halftime pickums, all
that good stuff. 

2518
02:13:28,920 --> 02:13:32,320
So the channel is going to be 
firing in season. 

2519
02:13:32,440 --> 02:13:35,560
Can't wait for all of that. 
And thank you for everyone who's

2520
02:13:35,920 --> 02:13:39,000
watched the draft streams here 
in August. 

2521
02:13:39,120 --> 02:13:41,440
I know we all had best ball 
brain there for a while, but 

2522
02:13:41,440 --> 02:13:44,440
nothing's better than getting 
into into the high stakes 

2523
02:13:44,440 --> 02:13:46,480
streets and getting to draft 
these teams. 

2524
02:13:46,760 --> 02:13:50,800
And again, thank you to staff 
for being our waiver Sherpa 

2525
02:13:50,960 --> 02:13:53,000
throughout all of this. 
And yeah, we'll catch you guys 

2526
02:13:53,000 --> 02:13:55,160
on the other side. 
Come say hi if you're in Vegas. 

2527
02:13:55,160 --> 02:13:58,240
And good luck with your Huskies 
bags, that's all I can say. 

2528
02:13:58,360 --> 02:13:58,800
Pray a little.
