1 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,400 All right, Pat we are really battling the elements here. 2 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,700 Getting these minisodes recorded. 3 00:00:18,700 --> 00:00:22,500 We've actually made our third and fourth round pick here. 4 00:00:22,500 --> 00:00:25,700 We had quite the sweat for our, third round, pick, or ultimately 5 00:00:25,700 --> 00:00:28,800 happy with it, but it wasn't exactly what we wanted. 6 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:35,000 Yeah, we talked on the previous podcast about wanting AJ Brown 7 00:00:35,700 --> 00:00:38,600 to fall to us. He got within one pick, he goes 8 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,600 right before us. We knew we had either AJ brown 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:46,100 or t Higgins lined up with our pick, both those guys available 10 00:00:46,500 --> 00:00:48,400 but the brown Snipes still really hurt. 11 00:00:49,300 --> 00:00:53,900 I think partially because like I'm taking Jamal KC G against 12 00:00:53,900 --> 00:00:56,200 together and best ball. Yeah, I don't really have an 13 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,500 issue doing that, but it does feel a little bit less exciting 14 00:00:59,500 --> 00:01:02,300 in the main event. We're like you're starting both 15 00:01:02,300 --> 00:01:05,500 of those guys. If you make that the finals, 16 00:01:05,700 --> 00:01:08,000 you're starting both those guys in your line and most likely, 17 00:01:08,700 --> 00:01:11,400 they're probably not having gigantic weeks together. 18 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,700 So it's just a little less exciting than, you know, 19 00:01:14,900 --> 00:01:18,300 Imagining the upside scenario playing operate a brown and 20 00:01:18,300 --> 00:01:22,200 plugging him in which our chase, ya know, I feel the same way and 21 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,400 it's definitely we are all kind of locked in right now to having 22 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,800 done a ton of drafts and underdogs format where the, you 23 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,000 know, a Essentially, the for uncorrelated tournaments, these 24 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,500 Spike weeks from teammates can kind of really work out in a 25 00:01:36,508 --> 00:01:38,100 nice way. But in this one where we're 26 00:01:38,100 --> 00:01:40,500 looking at, you know, a million-dollar top prize to a 27 00:01:40,500 --> 00:01:44,500 week, 15 through 17 cumulative scoring, I do think it kind of 28 00:01:44,500 --> 00:01:47,100 hurts us, you know, the other teams like, if we're getting 29 00:01:47,100 --> 00:01:51,300 ceiling games from two to three, AJ Brown weeks, weeks, 15 30 00:01:51,300 --> 00:01:54,400 through 17 and 2 to 3 or 2 ceiling games from Jamar Chase, 31 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,400 that's probably better than, you know, even alternating Jamar 32 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,500 chased, e Hagin ceiling game. So I do think it kind of hurts 33 00:02:01,500 --> 00:02:03,900 us overall. It also lowers our floor for 34 00:02:03,900 --> 00:02:06,800 sure, in our individual 12-man League, you know, I think 35 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,100 there's, you know, the games where the Bangles go off. 36 00:02:10,100 --> 00:02:12,000 We're going to be very well positioned, but we're going to 37 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,000 have, you know, assuming we also Target Joe burrow which I think 38 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,700 is likely, we're going to also have some weeks where the 39 00:02:17,700 --> 00:02:20,400 Bangles just have rough weeks and that's going to just really 40 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,900 crater our team because we're going to be taking on Extreme 41 00:02:23,900 --> 00:02:26,500 levels of variance, just on a week-to-week basis. 42 00:02:28,100 --> 00:02:31,100 We lost past, but yeah, so we'll talk Through this while Pat hops 43 00:02:31,100 --> 00:02:32,900 back on. So yeah, we were really pulling 44 00:02:32,900 --> 00:02:36,200 for AJ Brown, you know, T Higgins is like an awesome 45 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,200 consolation prize like, you know, it's just in the context 46 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,300 of having taken your March a swear. 47 00:02:42,300 --> 00:02:45,500 It's it just feels a little bit weird but it's like who can be 48 00:02:45,500 --> 00:02:47,500 upset? That is Jamar Chase. 49 00:02:47,500 --> 00:02:49,400 Kyle pits T Higgins. Start. 50 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,300 Yeah, I do think it also helps us take down the week, like, you 51 00:02:54,300 --> 00:02:57,700 mention it, lowers our floor, but it also increases our 52 00:02:57,700 --> 00:03:01,900 ceiling for winning the league, you know, and there is some 53 00:03:01,900 --> 00:03:04,600 piece of money and just winning your 12-team league. 54 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,700 And then I also think like, you know, there are scenarios where 55 00:03:09,700 --> 00:03:12,700 T Higgins has a smash week to Mark, chases fine, Jamar, Chase 56 00:03:12,700 --> 00:03:15,100 has another has a smash week. Digging the spite of we do, get 57 00:03:15,100 --> 00:03:17,400 Borough paired up with them then still. 58 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,000 I feel like we have a pretty darn high ceiling over through 59 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,000 periods. With these three players we're 60 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,800 going to need to hit on some other pics obviously. 61 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,500 But everyone else is going to need to do that too. 62 00:03:25,500 --> 00:03:28,700 So I guess I mean maybe we should talk about why we picked 63 00:03:28,700 --> 00:03:31,300 e Hagins over. Some of the remaining guys on 64 00:03:31,300 --> 00:03:34,000 the board because all we've done is talk about how it hurts our 65 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,100 ceiling. But I still think he's a tier 66 00:03:36,100 --> 00:03:39,300 above, you know, the guys like Mike Williams. 67 00:03:39,700 --> 00:03:41,600 James, Conner. David Montgomery went right 68 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,600 after Travis etn, Nick Chubb, and then Waller. 69 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,200 And Kittle, I think a very good picks in this range, but we 70 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,700 already had pets. And I think, I like having the 71 00:03:51,700 --> 00:03:54,400 extra wide receiver Firepower over second side in that early. 72 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,300 Yeah, that was really our big conversation. 73 00:03:57,300 --> 00:03:59,000 I think we teed it up in the last mini. 74 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,800 So talking through what? The two V2s would look like with 75 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,900 wide receiver. In the second round, tight end 76 00:04:04,900 --> 00:04:07,700 in the third because like Pat said, we'd obviously have access 77 00:04:07,700 --> 00:04:10,500 to Waller kid'll. So we ultimately were looking at 78 00:04:10,500 --> 00:04:14,400 Debo Waller verse, Kittle T Higgins. 79 00:04:14,700 --> 00:04:19,100 And but at the time we also knew we had outs for AJ, Brown there. 80 00:04:19,100 --> 00:04:22,700 And I think all of us were like Of us pits AJ Brown for sure. 81 00:04:22,700 --> 00:04:25,800 And that to be too. I think in retrospect it is a 82 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,200 little close, right? Like, I don't know. 83 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,100 If you could tell me right now, we could swap this this start 84 00:04:32,100 --> 00:04:36,000 and have Depot in Waller. I mean, would you undo it 85 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:42,700 knowing knowing how it went? I think I prefer pits Higgins to 86 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:49,500 Debo Waller but that's in a vacuum you know if we had just 87 00:04:49,500 --> 00:04:51,400 in Jefferson instead of Chase I definitely would. 88 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,100 Yeah but it is closed. Once you add the fact that we 89 00:04:54,100 --> 00:04:58,200 have Chase and you know, unless some weird stuff happens. 90 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,600 We're like Chase. Misses a game. 91 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,700 We've hit on another smash cake layer and Tegan's is like the 92 00:05:03,700 --> 00:05:07,400 wide receiver to, you know, ranks going into week 15 or 93 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,700 something. He smashes and then you didn't 94 00:05:10,700 --> 00:05:13,200 chase goes back and crutches. Like I guess those scenarios 95 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:19,200 could play out but overall, you probably probably do prefer the 96 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,000 Debo to V2. Having Jason Higgins together, I 97 00:05:23,008 --> 00:05:26,100 think right? Yeah, no, I do as well. 98 00:05:26,100 --> 00:05:29,700 And it's like, you know, I know people are getting high on Mike 99 00:05:29,700 --> 00:05:31,300 Williams. He's going at the two, three, 100 00:05:31,300 --> 00:05:34,400 turn on Underdog and a lot of drafts, he's flipped Keenan 101 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,700 Allen, a decent amount on Underdog. 102 00:05:36,700 --> 00:05:40,800 But like to me there's such a massive like the way I view T 103 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,600 Higgins. Like I've UT Higgins is being 104 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,500 closer to CD lamb, like it's like atoms and digs go off the 105 00:05:45,500 --> 00:05:49,600 board then I think it should be like Debo Higgins and lamb and 106 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,200 instead we had Tyree kill Keenan. 107 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:56,100 Alan Michael, Pittman, you know, all go ahead of him so like I do 108 00:05:56,100 --> 00:05:59,100 feel like we got a legit value on Higgins at this cost. 109 00:05:59,100 --> 00:06:01,100 It's just, we're feeling somewhat conflicted about it 110 00:06:01,100 --> 00:06:04,900 because we also have to March Ace For sure. 111 00:06:04,900 --> 00:06:06,500 Yeah. I think I think that's really 112 00:06:06,500 --> 00:06:08,100 what it comes down to. I think this is an incredible 113 00:06:08,100 --> 00:06:11,400 price for Higgins. I think he's undervalued. 114 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:16,000 In general, I take them on the two, three turn and Underdog. 115 00:06:16,100 --> 00:06:18,700 A fair amount. Obviously it's a wide receiver 116 00:06:18,700 --> 00:06:20,800 bit more valuable. Info PPR. 117 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,700 So I love them at this price. I don't know that maybe this is 118 00:06:24,707 --> 00:06:27,800 like a super hot take but I think he's better in real life 119 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,100 than CD lamb. Yeah. 120 00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:33,000 So like I think if Higgins was on the Cowboys instead of lamb 121 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,400 we do really Really excited. You know, I Lambs already gone 122 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,700 on the ones who turn but I think we might see him go. 123 00:06:38,700 --> 00:06:41,800 We're kind of work Diggs is if he was in that situation. 124 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:46,500 So I don't know to get the player of that Talent level is 125 00:06:46,500 --> 00:06:49,200 so exciting to get a player on offense. 126 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,800 I think I take a step forward in terms of our past volume because 127 00:06:52,100 --> 00:06:53,700 their offensive line has gotten so much better. 128 00:06:53,700 --> 00:06:56,400 Particularly in pass blocking their okay and run blocking last 129 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,900 year but they should be a lot better this year's pass blocking 130 00:06:58,900 --> 00:07:02,000 unit. They were quite passionately two 131 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,600 years ago unders. Taylor, I know he was pretty 132 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,700 disappointing as play-calling at times last year, but I think 133 00:07:09,700 --> 00:07:12,900 there's a lot of upside for this offense, to embrace the engine 134 00:07:12,900 --> 00:07:14,600 of their offense being burrow in these two receivers. 135 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,800 So I think, you know, from a kind of an in-season ceiling 136 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,700 perspective, it's an awesome move over a three-week period, 137 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,100 not as exciting a brown, but still happy to get them. 138 00:07:25,700 --> 00:07:27,100 Yeah. And I mean, we did, you know, 139 00:07:27,100 --> 00:07:29,700 Gretch Gretch has traveling right now. 140 00:07:29,700 --> 00:07:32,300 He'll be back for our other minisodes but you know, he 141 00:07:32,300 --> 00:07:34,100 mentioned, you know, chub and ETS. 142 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,400 In here as well just as viable options but none of us were 143 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,500 passing on AJ Brown and Higgins. It was more if you know, Brown 144 00:07:42,500 --> 00:07:45,100 and Higgins went and we were more debating like Keenan Allen 145 00:07:45,100 --> 00:07:47,900 and Pittman verse like etn in chub. 146 00:07:47,900 --> 00:07:50,700 Maybe we would have thought about grabbing a little third 147 00:07:50,700 --> 00:07:52,900 round. Anchor running back here, but 148 00:07:52,900 --> 00:07:57,100 ultimately there was no way we were not taking Higgins. 149 00:07:57,100 --> 00:07:59,300 Here, already having locked up a tight end. 150 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,300 And, you know, I think all of us feel pretty big tear gap down to 151 00:08:02,300 --> 00:08:05,700 Mike Williams after that. Yeah, the thought of getting 152 00:08:05,700 --> 00:08:08,800 snagged on Higgins and AJ Brown actually gave me a pit in my 153 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,800 stomach. So I do feel like we made the 154 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,000 right decision to go Higgins over. 155 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,000 I mean, chubbin a third round. His job is so good that in the 156 00:08:17,008 --> 00:08:19,400 third round he went three twelve year. 157 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,600 I mean that's we're not really targeting that archetype like 158 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,600 ever but like that's an awesome pick at 3:12. 159 00:08:26,300 --> 00:08:28,400 Yeah. And so then we I think we kind 160 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,000 of knew how the board was going to fall that like unless we got 161 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,100 like an insane briefs Hall fall like I think it breathe All fell 162 00:08:35,100 --> 00:08:37,299 to us here at the in the late 4th. 163 00:08:37,299 --> 00:08:39,900 We would have been pretty interested in that but we were 164 00:08:39,900 --> 00:08:41,900 always kind of on wide receiver watch here. 165 00:08:41,900 --> 00:08:43,400 We had obviously a bunch of running backs. 166 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,100 Go on the board. If you're listening to the audio 167 00:08:45,100 --> 00:08:47,100 version we had after Mike Williams. 168 00:08:47,100 --> 00:08:51,100 James Conner, David Montgomery, George kiddo, went then etn chub 169 00:08:51,100 --> 00:08:54,800 Hall at the 3/4 turn and then of course, we see one of our 170 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,500 favorites, go DJ more and then Sutton waddle go who were all on 171 00:08:59,500 --> 00:09:04,100 our short list and, you know, we were then kind of, I believe our 172 00:09:04,100 --> 00:09:06,200 decision. I mainly came down to Marquis 173 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,500 Brown versus deante Johnson, at this point. 174 00:09:10,100 --> 00:09:13,200 Yeah, you made a really strong point on on Brown, which what 175 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,700 you should make here. Yeah, I mean, you know, in you 176 00:09:16,700 --> 00:09:19,800 also brought up to so Brown is definitely going much earlier. 177 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,500 Well, not much, but he's going earlier than this on Underdog. 178 00:09:22,500 --> 00:09:26,600 He's more of a 3/4 turn pick and he has the market has kind of 179 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,700 started to Value him. Ahead of even, you know, DJ more 180 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,300 and in waddle a bit. But my thought on Marquis Brown 181 00:09:35,300 --> 00:09:38,100 is we know he's going to get off to a fast start because he can 182 00:09:38,100 --> 00:09:40,900 be a Target hog. With DeAndre Hopkins out, we saw 183 00:09:40,900 --> 00:09:44,300 even the Ravens using him as a bit of a Target hog kind of you 184 00:09:44,300 --> 00:09:46,500 know moving past just being a downfield player. 185 00:09:46,500 --> 00:09:48,700 So I like that heat in this format. 186 00:09:48,700 --> 00:09:51,900 We can get off to a fast start with him which I think is, you 187 00:09:51,900 --> 00:09:54,200 know, something historically. We've struggled with 188 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,800 specifically with 0r B bills that aren't giving us enough 189 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,000 point. So I like that Firepower early. 190 00:09:59,100 --> 00:10:02,700 I also think he just has outs to dig weeks in the playoffs even 191 00:10:02,700 --> 00:10:05,300 win Hopkins. Returns they also they mean the 192 00:10:05,300 --> 00:10:09,000 Cardinals have just a beautiful chefs kiss playoff schedule so 193 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,800 that Also come in handy, you know, with that million dollar 194 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,200 top prize. And then, you know, finally to 195 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,300 like, you know, obviously, we're going to want to get Joe 196 00:10:16,300 --> 00:10:20,500 Borough, but we're also open to some of these other Russian 197 00:10:20,500 --> 00:10:24,500 cubies and want to be open to them falling at good prices. 198 00:10:24,500 --> 00:10:27,900 So, getting a potential stack with Marquis Brown where it's 199 00:10:27,900 --> 00:10:30,800 like, hey, we can get our access to the Bangles via Chase and 200 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,800 Higgins. We don't necessarily have to 201 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:37,000 force a Borough selection, like I really feel good about how 202 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,700 this kind of lined up for us. I do too. 203 00:10:40,700 --> 00:10:43,200 Yeah, I love the quote about getting off to a fast start. 204 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,300 That's that's one of the things that really sold me on Brown / 205 00:10:47,300 --> 00:10:49,900 Johnson, I think is fairly close. 206 00:10:51,300 --> 00:10:53,400 But yeah, I mean this is shaping up as a zero running back 207 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,300 though, there's something very akin to that. 208 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,700 So getting a fast start wide receiver. 209 00:10:58,700 --> 00:11:02,500 I think it's really nice. The point on the gap between 210 00:11:02,500 --> 00:11:06,500 this ATP and underdogs ATP. That that's a product because 211 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,700 one I think underdogs ATP is pretty sharp. 212 00:11:08,900 --> 00:11:13,000 So you kind of get it's like another Market thinks he would 213 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,300 be screaming value here. Also like, you know, he could 214 00:11:17,300 --> 00:11:19,800 catch quite a few passes perhaps a lot more than we're used to 215 00:11:19,808 --> 00:11:22,400 from Marquis Brown. Yeah, especially early in the 216 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,500 season. So you know, the PPR element, I 217 00:11:25,500 --> 00:11:29,400 think it is pretty nice to get them at a discount to a half P 218 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,200 drdp. But then also like, This is one 219 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,500 of the first Main Events, right? So we could see some shifts in 220 00:11:36,500 --> 00:11:41,100 the ATP going forward. So ultimately, maybe the ATP 221 00:11:41,100 --> 00:11:45,400 moves towards Underdog here and we get a really, really nice ATP 222 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,700 value on Marquis Brown, you know, potential unique 223 00:11:48,700 --> 00:11:52,800 construction, which could be quite nice in the three-week 224 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:53,700 period. If we make it there. 225 00:11:54,500 --> 00:11:57,400 Yeah, no, I definitely think he could be someone that's going to 226 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,500 climb up and it is, you know, deante Johnson, I think is an 227 00:12:01,500 --> 00:12:04,100 incredibly solid A pic. I know Gretsch has his been in 228 00:12:04,100 --> 00:12:05,900 on Johnson. I know we've taken him on a few 229 00:12:05,900 --> 00:12:09,600 of our streams, specifically Underdog streams to, but, yeah. 230 00:12:09,700 --> 00:12:13,200 Marquis Brown seems just like a really, really nice pic for us 231 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,100 and I do, I know we all want to prioritize an elite quarterback 232 00:12:17,100 --> 00:12:21,000 to and I do just like that this kind of gives us access to 233 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,000 really smart ways to do that. Whereas if we can get Kyler at a 234 00:12:25,008 --> 00:12:28,900 value that then we'll really commit deflate, the pressure on 235 00:12:28,900 --> 00:12:34,600 unlocking and burrow. Yeah, I think Kyler might we'll 236 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,800 both quarterbacks actually I think set up okay for us in 237 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,800 terms of pockets yeah Tyler might come back to us in a 238 00:12:41,808 --> 00:12:46,200 sixth, right? And then we could be potentially 239 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,500 looking at Borough in the eighth or ninth. 240 00:12:47,500 --> 00:12:52,400 So, I really do like having the out to an elite quarterback is 241 00:12:52,500 --> 00:12:53,700 the one of the things that burrows. 242 00:12:53,700 --> 00:12:56,500 Like, although it would be really nice to have him with 243 00:12:56,500 --> 00:13:00,400 this top to pass catchers. He doesn't not going to the 244 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,200 rushing upside of Kyle. Sorry and I don't know, part of 245 00:13:04,208 --> 00:13:07,400 me feels like we may be captured the entire Bangles passing game 246 00:13:07,500 --> 00:13:11,100 already, so we get. Yeah, we get the upside with the 247 00:13:11,100 --> 00:13:13,800 rushing. Maybe maybe that's just as good. 248 00:13:14,500 --> 00:13:18,500 Yeah, and you mentioned it to, I mean, we're clearly on a path 249 00:13:18,500 --> 00:13:20,400 for a true zero are be built here. 250 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,600 I mean, all of us are were open to certain, you know, values 251 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,100 falling. Like I mentioned, I think res 252 00:13:25,100 --> 00:13:28,200 Hall would have been a very fun pick if he fell, you know, in 253 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,400 the fourth year. But the way this is setting up 254 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,700 now, I know We have a couple targets, we really like in the 255 00:13:33,708 --> 00:13:35,800 early 5th. You know, if Gabriel Davis, is 256 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,800 there, if Rashad Bateman is there, you know? 257 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,100 Those are guys that are just going to be very very tough for 258 00:13:41,100 --> 00:13:44,400 us to pass up on and then we're also like you said going to 259 00:13:44,408 --> 00:13:48,100 maybe be looking at quarterback in round six potentially if 260 00:13:48,100 --> 00:13:51,800 Kyler's there so I think we are on a trajectory for a very true 261 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,800 0r B build. You know, once Dobbins goes off 262 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,700 the board here, you know, Hall and Dobbins have really kind of 263 00:13:58,700 --> 00:14:01,300 been my dead zone exception. Ztn as well. 264 00:14:01,300 --> 00:14:05,800 His Deep he's gone up though. So I have a hard time seeing us 265 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,300 taking a running back in these next couple rounds right now. 266 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,300 Dobbins was the one I have my eye on, you know if you were to 267 00:14:13,300 --> 00:14:15,900 get back just which is a long shot and he goes couple pics 268 00:14:15,900 --> 00:14:18,900 after weeks a very, very nice but I guess after we took Brown. 269 00:14:18,900 --> 00:14:22,500 So yeah I don't really see who he would take. 270 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,200 I'm kind of sitting out this like next year and a half. 271 00:14:25,700 --> 00:14:29,000 So and I think we're set up well like and that's actually one of 272 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,400 the reasons why I like to Brown in the fast start arguments so 273 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,800 much is that you know it's like okay well Dobbins doesn't make 274 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,200 it back and you probably won't we're totally set up or as 275 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:40,700 You're a flake. This is going to be a true zero 276 00:14:40,700 --> 00:14:44,300 running back build. So yeah get in that fast. 277 00:14:44,300 --> 00:14:47,500 Start is important in that build which can give a talk to a 278 00:14:47,500 --> 00:14:49,600 little bit of a slow start at the running back position as 279 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,500 well. But I mean this is this is still 280 00:14:53,500 --> 00:14:56,400 like a really juicy time I think for some of these are running 281 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,300 back targets will probably have to be a little bit. 282 00:15:00,100 --> 00:15:03,800 Ricci with some of the guys that we like it running back because, 283 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,100 you know, we're used to Underdog where they were drafters can 284 00:15:08,100 --> 00:15:09,500 only stop drafting running backs. 285 00:15:09,500 --> 00:15:13,100 Once once they have enough, then that might not happen here. 286 00:15:13,900 --> 00:15:16,500 Yeah, no, for sure. And I do, I do agree. 287 00:15:16,500 --> 00:15:19,100 And we always if you guys have been watching the show for 288 00:15:19,100 --> 00:15:22,600 years, I mean Pat and I always reference the main event from, I 289 00:15:22,608 --> 00:15:24,400 don't know what it has been three years ago. 290 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,600 Basically, it was the Darwin Thompson and Justice Hill year 291 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,700 and you know Pat and I are To pull off a 0, RB build. 292 00:15:30,700 --> 00:15:33,800 And you're looking at these boards and these were the trendy 293 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,500 guys, going the 11th 12th round throughout the offseason, and 294 00:15:36,500 --> 00:15:38,300 then they're going in the seventh and eighth round. 295 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,500 By the time, ffs PC draft weekend, kicks off. 296 00:15:41,500 --> 00:15:45,400 So I do agree with path that. You know what drives running 297 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,300 back ADP is kind of projectable volume and we have a lot of 298 00:15:49,300 --> 00:15:51,900 ambiguity with these back fields right now and I think that's 299 00:15:51,900 --> 00:15:57,400 keeping there, a TPS, you know, bogged down a little bit in a 300 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,100 nice range whereas as we get more Or clarity as the season 301 00:16:00,100 --> 00:16:02,200 moves on like the cream of the crop 0. 302 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,300 RB targets, are naturally going to get pushed up. 303 00:16:04,300 --> 00:16:08,100 Whereas right now we just really haven't had that yet and I do 304 00:16:08,100 --> 00:16:10,400 still agree that they the popular. 305 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,000 Guys, your Pollard, your AJ Dylan. 306 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,300 They're still going to be hot Commodities, but I do think just 307 00:16:15,300 --> 00:16:18,700 in general. It's and I'd actually it's 308 00:16:18,700 --> 00:16:20,800 really interesting because Sean might disagree with this. 309 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,600 I know he likes to draft later in the season. 310 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,300 We have more information but I do think it's much easier to 311 00:16:25,300 --> 00:16:26,200 build like a 0. R. 312 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,000 Be super team earlier in the offseason. 313 00:16:29,100 --> 00:16:31,400 There's just going to be so many more values to be had. 314 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,700 I completely agree with that. And I mean the FPC guys like you 315 00:16:37,700 --> 00:16:40,100 know, they they pay a lot of attention to the news and 316 00:16:40,100 --> 00:16:42,500 Journey camp reports and the buzz and stuff. 317 00:16:42,500 --> 00:16:47,900 Like you know if Ramon Dre looks like he might start for the 318 00:16:47,900 --> 00:16:51,000 Patriots by, you know, a couple weeks after the season, like 319 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,400 he's legit challenging for the starting job. 320 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:59,000 Like that is going to be fully baked in to September ATP and 321 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,400 ffp. See like, you know, we have our 322 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,300 disagreements Agreements with some of the FTC drafters about 323 00:17:04,300 --> 00:17:06,300 like, you know, wide receiver value running back value, 324 00:17:06,300 --> 00:17:09,800 structural Drafting and stuff, but like I'm not sleeping on 325 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:15,300 their ability to price in all the fat out outside training 326 00:17:15,300 --> 00:17:17,700 camp. Yeah. 327 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,099 And it's the reason you can't be asleep at the wheel is because 328 00:17:21,099 --> 00:17:23,599 we are racing to fill our Flex with wide receivers. 329 00:17:23,599 --> 00:17:26,099 Well they're racing to fill their Flex with running backs. 330 00:17:26,099 --> 00:17:29,800 So like we are going to meet in the middle, trying to get, you 331 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,500 know, a head-on collision. I was trying to get an D1 and 332 00:17:32,500 --> 00:17:35,600 their them trying to get there are before for the flex. 333 00:17:35,700 --> 00:17:38,700 And, you know, both of those pockets of the draft are going 334 00:17:38,700 --> 00:17:41,600 to be attractive to 0, RB drafters and running back 335 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,100 running back lovers trying to start for running back so yeah. 336 00:17:45,100 --> 00:17:48,900 And something will have to be cognizant of but I do think 337 00:17:48,900 --> 00:17:51,900 we're going to be like just knowing like the Heinz and the 338 00:17:51,900 --> 00:17:54,500 gain Wells. And you know these rookies right 339 00:17:54,500 --> 00:17:57,900 now who you know, like we haven't gotten a ton of buzz on 340 00:17:57,900 --> 00:18:00,900 Spiller and cook and you're starting to just hear it a 341 00:18:00,908 --> 00:18:03,000 little bit now. Now and they're going to start 342 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,900 to inch up. So it's like I'm now being like 343 00:18:05,900 --> 00:18:08,500 let's get this draft go and you know I want to get to the 10th 344 00:18:08,500 --> 00:18:10,600 11th. Yeah guys, before the news 345 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:15,300 reports come out, Yeah, there were some stuff on Rashad white, 346 00:18:15,300 --> 00:18:19,500 this week Gregg Allman Zone, a good football show mentioning. 347 00:18:19,500 --> 00:18:22,500 He's like he's I think he's the number two back like this. 348 00:18:22,500 --> 00:18:25,400 Again the Keyshawn Von situation he's already been over 2 so like 349 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,500 stuff like that. He's kind of you got to dig for 350 00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:32,200 it a little bit more right now once you stop having to dig for 351 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:37,000 it, once it's like just kind of known for just like on all of 352 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,200 the newspaper sites and stuff. Yeah, all these guys probably 353 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,900 move up all the guys we want right now is probably going to 354 00:18:43,900 --> 00:18:48,900 move up by two rounds. So this, this will be a fun one. 355 00:18:48,900 --> 00:18:52,600 I don't know if whenever we've done the minisodes, I'm pretty 356 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,100 sure we've always had an anchor running back, so I believe this 357 00:18:56,100 --> 00:18:58,900 might be our first minisode kickoff draft where we've gone 358 00:18:58,900 --> 00:18:59,800 trees. Here are B. 359 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,700 So this will be fun will get grach back in the fold. 360 00:19:02,700 --> 00:19:05,100 I know all of us have been like traveling and moving around. 361 00:19:05,100 --> 00:19:09,100 I'll be back at my computer here, for the next couple of 362 00:19:09,100 --> 00:19:12,400 pics at So appreciate you guys tuning in. 363 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,200 We'll keep walking through our thought process with this Main 364 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,700 Event. If you're listening to the audio 365 00:19:16,700 --> 00:19:18,800 version, we are to recap Jamar Chase. 366 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,300 Kyle pits, T, Higgins. Marquis Brown heading into the 367 00:19:22,300 --> 00:19:24,800 fifth round here. Pat, anything else? 368 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,600 I'm forgetting Now we get another one, receiver in the 369 00:19:28,608 --> 00:19:32,400 fifth, another wide receiver in the fifth can never get enough 370 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,200 wide receivers. 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