1 00:00:12,940 --> 00:00:17,580 All right, we are back for an annual series that we do here on 2 00:00:17,580 --> 00:00:19,020 the channel and the podcast feed. 3 00:00:19,060 --> 00:00:23,620 It is of course the FFPC mini. So this is how we kick off high 4 00:00:23,620 --> 00:00:27,060 stakes manage season. We always hop in an FFPC slow 5 00:00:27,060 --> 00:00:30,580 draft and get on the horn here and talk through all of our 6 00:00:30,580 --> 00:00:33,620 decisions in real time. So you can kind of get a peek 7 00:00:33,820 --> 00:00:36,540 behind the curtain of how we kind of hash these things out. 8 00:00:36,740 --> 00:00:39,540 I will admit all of us have have been firmly in the best ball 9 00:00:39,540 --> 00:00:42,300 streets up until this point, so this is going to be a really fun 10 00:00:42,940 --> 00:00:46,220 deduction to the high stakes ADP landscape. 11 00:00:46,740 --> 00:00:50,660 These videos are made available early for our YouTube members, 12 00:00:50,820 --> 00:00:53,900 then the audio will end up on the podcast feed on delays. 13 00:00:53,900 --> 00:00:56,620 But if you want to see the videos become a YouTube member 14 00:00:56,620 --> 00:00:58,140 you can hop in the discord as well. 15 00:00:58,340 --> 00:01:00,380 But I think that covers all the housekeeping. 16 00:01:00,500 --> 00:01:03,100 Then Gretch Pat Crane, How we feeling about getting the main 17 00:01:03,100 --> 00:01:07,620 event draft underway here? I'm feeling good. 18 00:01:07,620 --> 00:01:11,300 Like it is funny, you know. We're doing this a little later 19 00:01:11,300 --> 00:01:14,760 than usual, I think. And not crazy later, but I think 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,400 normally we try to hop in the very first main, which didn't 21 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,280 end up working out with logistical stuff this year, but 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,600 you know, a little later. And I've done more drafts in my 23 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,640 entire this year than I've ever had my entire life probably put 24 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,920 together. And yet I feel like. 25 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,600 A. Little bit more behind like I 26 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,600 feel like I'm you know we we kind of had I had a better sense 27 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:41,920 of the FFPC landscape last you know mid-july than I do. 28 00:01:42,180 --> 00:01:45,460 Here in late July, Yeah. How are you feeling about it, 29 00:01:45,460 --> 00:01:46,220 Gretch? Kind of. 30 00:01:46,340 --> 00:01:48,660 Because I know this has been your first time getting to do a 31 00:01:48,660 --> 00:01:50,580 bunch of early best ball stuff, too. 32 00:01:50,580 --> 00:01:53,660 Are you ready to do the hard pivot to manage strategy? 33 00:01:54,820 --> 00:01:57,060 I am. And that's like a big thing that 34 00:01:58,980 --> 00:02:01,140 I don't know, that I kind of wanna chat with you guys about 35 00:02:01,180 --> 00:02:04,780 as we get going is that pivot and what it entails and what our 36 00:02:04,780 --> 00:02:10,039 goals are. It's I mean it's a lot different 37 00:02:10,039 --> 00:02:14,240 and I think I've come around big time and best ball and learned a 38 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,920 lot from you guys about not taking too hard of player 39 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:21,440 stances and the ways that that can play out in best ball and 40 00:02:21,640 --> 00:02:24,360 especially over a massive portfolio that you want to get 41 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,160 some exposures to players even if like you're not you don't 42 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,920 like them. You know, you want to, you want 43 00:02:28,920 --> 00:02:31,560 to be balanced. You want to, especially with the 44 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,080 ways that we correlate in week 17 and and and the stacks and 45 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,940 we, you know stack players on. That's been a harder thing for 46 00:02:37,940 --> 00:02:43,540 me to come through, come around to in best ball, but in managed, 47 00:02:43,660 --> 00:02:47,260 I do feel like it's something that especially when you don't 48 00:02:47,260 --> 00:02:49,900 have a ton of managed teams, I like to take my stances, I like 49 00:02:49,900 --> 00:02:53,660 to, you know, I like to make my my plays on guys and so that's 50 00:02:53,660 --> 00:02:57,420 something that I don't know, I'm kind of curious you guys 51 00:02:57,420 --> 00:02:59,420 thoughts on as well. I felt like it was something 52 00:02:59,420 --> 00:03:01,420 that last year we maybe didn't do. 53 00:03:02,460 --> 00:03:05,460 Like if if if we can be self critical that we didn't do a 54 00:03:05,460 --> 00:03:08,100 great job on necessarily where we were more willing to let the 55 00:03:08,100 --> 00:03:10,620 room give us stuff. And this is something I'm going 56 00:03:10,620 --> 00:03:12,340 to write something about this this offseason. 57 00:03:12,340 --> 00:03:15,300 But I feel like like I have this this piece I'm going to write 58 00:03:15,300 --> 00:03:17,740 that I'm going to title something like we're all sort of 59 00:03:17,740 --> 00:03:20,380 slaves to whatever worked for us in the past or something like 60 00:03:20,380 --> 00:03:22,740 that like. And so I had a team that 61 00:03:22,740 --> 00:03:26,420 finished top 20 in FFPC main a few years back and it was very 62 00:03:26,420 --> 00:03:28,780 much a team where I went out and got guys that I wanted. 63 00:03:28,900 --> 00:03:30,700 And so I have like a lot of success with that. 64 00:03:31,330 --> 00:03:33,850 And I think that's part of why I'm biased that direction. 65 00:03:34,210 --> 00:03:36,170 I'm not sure that it's the right way, but it's sort of like what 66 00:03:36,170 --> 00:03:37,570 I want. You know what I mean? 67 00:03:38,610 --> 00:03:40,010 Yeah. And I agree with you. 68 00:03:40,010 --> 00:03:43,610 I think the thing that I like, the idea being because we are 69 00:03:43,610 --> 00:03:47,650 going to do a bunch of high stakes drafts this year, is like 70 00:03:47,650 --> 00:03:50,730 being flexible with the structures we use, but being 71 00:03:50,730 --> 00:03:53,890 very intentional about like the players were selecting with 72 00:03:53,890 --> 00:03:55,610 those structures. You know, like if we have an 73 00:03:55,650 --> 00:03:58,130 early slot in FFPC in this draft, we're about to pull up, 74 00:03:58,130 --> 00:04:00,650 we have the 1:11, so we're not going to have access to Travis 75 00:04:00,650 --> 00:04:02,410 Kelsey. Travis Kelsey's off the board. 76 00:04:02,410 --> 00:04:04,490 Then you can start to have some interesting conversations. 77 00:04:04,650 --> 00:04:06,930 Do you want to prioritize an elite tight end in these first 78 00:04:06,930 --> 00:04:10,290 few rounds or do we want to take advantage of a cranking purple 79 00:04:10,290 --> 00:04:12,450 strategy, you know, this year because there's so much. 80 00:04:12,650 --> 00:04:14,770 But obviously if we have an early draft slot, like, I'm 81 00:04:14,770 --> 00:04:18,170 completely open to a Travis Kelsey anchor elite tight end 82 00:04:18,170 --> 00:04:19,130 build. So that's the thing too. 83 00:04:19,130 --> 00:04:22,290 I'm kind of excited to let some of our draft slots, you know, 84 00:04:22,290 --> 00:04:25,770 push us into different textures and styles of drafts, but still 85 00:04:25,770 --> 00:04:29,130 be very dialed in on the type of players we want to be heavy on 86 00:04:29,130 --> 00:04:30,550 this year. Yeah, I would. 87 00:04:30,550 --> 00:04:33,070 The one thing I'd say about getting our guys, I definitely 88 00:04:33,070 --> 00:04:38,070 feel like in this first draft, one of the things that I've kind 89 00:04:38,070 --> 00:04:41,430 of fallen into as a trap is like feeling like it's my only draft 90 00:04:41,430 --> 00:04:43,830 of the entire highstakes season and being like, I got to get 91 00:04:43,830 --> 00:04:47,110 this guy, I got to get this guy like 80 PB damned. 92 00:04:47,670 --> 00:04:51,990 But we'll have chances to get some of our targets in other 93 00:04:51,990 --> 00:04:53,110 drafts. At the same time. 94 00:04:53,110 --> 00:04:57,470 I do agree with you Ben, that like I want to be building teams 95 00:04:57,470 --> 00:05:00,720 with players that. I feel like have the right 96 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,240 upside profiles for this, this format and this tournament. 97 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,600 You are trying to finish first out of a ton of people you know. 98 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,640 It is a top heavy kind of payout structure. 99 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,280 Advancing out of your league is important, but ultimately you 100 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:19,640 want to win the whole thing here and I don't want to let the room 101 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,920 just boxes into whatever kind of middling architect of dude that 102 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,320 we don't really feel very good about, so. 103 00:05:27,210 --> 00:05:30,730 Yeah, I kind of want a little bit of both where like as we sit 104 00:05:30,730 --> 00:05:35,170 here in the 11, I don't love this spot, but there's a couple 105 00:05:35,170 --> 00:05:37,890 guys that I think, you know, I'm going to be willing to like 106 00:05:37,890 --> 00:05:42,010 reach on in this spot. Yeah. 107 00:05:42,010 --> 00:05:43,890 So it kind of prioritizes those things. 108 00:05:44,250 --> 00:05:47,290 We're obviously pretty aligned in a lot of what we think about. 109 00:05:47,290 --> 00:05:49,570 So we're we're definitely kind of picking nits and it's it's a 110 00:05:49,570 --> 00:05:53,850 very limited like the application of this discussion 111 00:05:53,850 --> 00:05:56,890 is very limited in terms of. Whether we might lean one way or 112 00:05:56,890 --> 00:06:00,090 another, but we're gonna be very close, is what I'm getting at. 113 00:06:00,530 --> 00:06:03,410 Yeah, I don't know. I want well, this is a 114 00:06:03,410 --> 00:06:07,210 conversation more for the 3-4, the five, six turns, but I think 115 00:06:07,450 --> 00:06:09,330 and maybe in the six, seven turns, but I think we might have 116 00:06:09,330 --> 00:06:11,770 some disagreements on kind of who fits what architectures. 117 00:06:11,770 --> 00:06:14,410 We have a lot of good discussions on those wide 118 00:06:14,410 --> 00:06:16,290 receiver profiles I think as the draft moves on. 119 00:06:16,290 --> 00:06:19,810 But but I think we're aligned in sort of what we're trying to do 120 00:06:20,410 --> 00:06:24,010 and then to kind of swing back the other to Pat's point too is 121 00:06:24,010 --> 00:06:26,820 one thing I've noticed and this goes back to even me saying I 122 00:06:26,820 --> 00:06:29,940 like different structures is I I want to say the couple years and 123 00:06:29,940 --> 00:06:31,380 maybe it was last year in the year before too. 124 00:06:31,380 --> 00:06:34,260 Like we really like the idea of an anchor running back in an 125 00:06:34,260 --> 00:06:37,020 elite tight end in rounds one and two and then like scoop up 126 00:06:37,020 --> 00:06:40,100 all that wide receiver value like hammer it after that. 127 00:06:40,340 --> 00:06:42,980 And then I always remember those were when we got like you know 128 00:06:42,980 --> 00:06:46,500 we're reaching to get that first tight end because we had a lot 129 00:06:46,500 --> 00:06:48,740 of late draft slots or we were reaching to take a guy like 130 00:06:48,740 --> 00:06:50,740 Antonio Gibson. You know, because we're like, 131 00:06:50,740 --> 00:06:52,900 yeah, he's our favorite of the remaining like bell cow and it 132 00:06:53,060 --> 00:06:56,140 that fit that ideal structure that we wanted to do. 133 00:06:56,260 --> 00:06:59,540 And that's where I want to kind of it's like let's utilize the 134 00:06:59,540 --> 00:07:02,660 structure that makes most sense for our draft slot, but then 135 00:07:02,660 --> 00:07:05,580 still be very, very picky with the players we're selecting. 136 00:07:05,860 --> 00:07:08,780 I love that point too, because I think you can still do an anchor 137 00:07:08,780 --> 00:07:13,100 running back or an anchor tight end this year in particular. 138 00:07:13,260 --> 00:07:16,180 Yeah, in the 3rd and 4th and the 5th, like we can actually hit 139 00:07:16,180 --> 00:07:19,540 dead zone running backs as an anchor or we can hit a tight end 140 00:07:19,540 --> 00:07:21,540 in those ranges as an anchor tight end. 141 00:07:21,540 --> 00:07:23,500 So. It is a great year for that 142 00:07:23,500 --> 00:07:25,620 exact point. Well, if you still want to be 143 00:07:25,980 --> 00:07:29,500 anchored on those, So not really a tight end from this half of 144 00:07:29,500 --> 00:07:33,540 the board, This half of the board you kind of get one crack 145 00:07:34,220 --> 00:07:36,780 at an elite tight end. Cuz look, basically if the ADP, 146 00:07:36,780 --> 00:07:39,460 I'm looking at fancy Mojos ADP the last three days from the 147 00:07:39,460 --> 00:07:42,820 Fantasy Pros Championship, which I figured would have kind of 148 00:07:42,820 --> 00:07:44,700 more drafts in the main event right now. 149 00:07:46,980 --> 00:07:50,740 And it looks like you get Andrews kind of at the 1-2 turn. 150 00:07:51,610 --> 00:07:54,210 It's a little bit of a reach. He's got an ADP. 151 00:07:55,690 --> 00:07:58,930 He's in the middle of the second hold up here on screen to the 152 00:07:58,930 --> 00:08:01,770 Roto based draft Draft grid here. 153 00:08:01,770 --> 00:08:04,250 ADP grid. And then your odds of getting a 154 00:08:04,250 --> 00:08:11,090 tight end, Yeah, cuz Hawkinson's got an ADP of 304 kittles. 155 00:08:12,010 --> 00:08:15,850 Kittle, Pitts and Waller are all in the late 4th to mid 5th. 156 00:08:16,490 --> 00:08:20,290 Got her as well in at the 5:06 so like. 157 00:08:21,230 --> 00:08:23,790 And I think there's a pretty big tier break there. 158 00:08:23,790 --> 00:08:26,150 Yeah, before Evan Ingram in the in the market reflects that. 159 00:08:26,150 --> 00:08:30,430 So I I think it's kind of like Andrews or nothing as far as 160 00:08:30,430 --> 00:08:33,350 elite tight ends go from the back half of the board in this 161 00:08:33,350 --> 00:08:36,990 CDP environment. Well, I mean, you still get an 162 00:08:36,990 --> 00:08:39,990 option at the 3-4 turn. I was gonna say like early 163 00:08:40,110 --> 00:08:42,990 Waller and this kind of goes back to that thing, like how 164 00:08:42,990 --> 00:08:48,350 much of A reach in this format is Kittler Pitts at 402 or 4/3? 165 00:08:48,710 --> 00:08:54,910 I'd rather reach 3 picks for. Handers, then take a guy that's 166 00:08:55,030 --> 00:08:56,630 401. Yeah, so it's like a half a 167 00:08:56,630 --> 00:08:59,110 round for. It's like a full round for Pitt. 168 00:08:59,110 --> 00:09:03,630 Like, I think we'll probably get pits in other drafts if he's 169 00:09:03,630 --> 00:09:05,830 gonna stick at the end of the fourth round. 170 00:09:07,750 --> 00:09:11,310 Yeah, the other potential answer is to not take. 171 00:09:12,530 --> 00:09:15,570 In a leak type when we're drafting in the 11th slot, I 172 00:09:15,570 --> 00:09:18,330 think a guy like Pat Friarmuth is still pretty undervalued. 173 00:09:18,330 --> 00:09:20,530 I'm looking at the 7-8 turn and saying wow, I mean if we had a 174 00:09:20,530 --> 00:09:23,090 shot at him at 7:11, I would be very in on that pic. 175 00:09:24,290 --> 00:09:27,130 JSN listed right next to him there. 176 00:09:27,130 --> 00:09:29,810 So I'm sure the receivers there are still very interesting as 177 00:09:29,810 --> 00:09:33,170 well. But yeah, it would change the 178 00:09:33,170 --> 00:09:35,410 way we would approach that and it might be 1 where we crank it 179 00:09:35,410 --> 00:09:38,530 purple later for sure. But the circle I I wanted to 180 00:09:38,530 --> 00:09:40,130 circle all the way back a little bit to the. 181 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,480 Player like targets versus like a DP discussion. 182 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,600 One of the things this is a really large tournament, right? 183 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,160 But one of the things I do want to shift our mind a little bit 184 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,280 and I don't know if I'm talking to you guys or talking to the 185 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,400 listeners more, but the best ball discussions that we have 186 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,280 and all the research that's done in the big best ball tournament 187 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,200 formats, we have to keep in mind that are hundreds of thousands 188 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,400 of entrants, right. And that's like a really extreme 189 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,880 contest size, this contest still very large. 190 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,920 I don't know the exact number of entrants, but it's like sub 191 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,440 10,000, right? They're right around 10,000 192 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:15,960 maybe. I believe it's four. 193 00:10:16,680 --> 00:10:20,080 Let me, let me go check here. I thought it was like 4200. 194 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,280 Yeah. I think it's sub 10,000, so a 195 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,000 lot smaller 10,000, yeah. Yeah, a lot, lot smaller. 196 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,720 I think a lot more flexibility in terms of like the lessons 197 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,720 that we've learned in Best Ball about being conscious about ADP, 198 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,280 about getting good prices on stuff. 199 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:39,140 That's still very important. But this is a type of contest 200 00:10:39,140 --> 00:10:42,420 where I so I go back to that. I mentioned that team that I did 201 00:10:42,420 --> 00:10:45,580 well in 2019, that happened to be a team that was drafted after 202 00:10:45,580 --> 00:10:47,300 the Thursday night game. Will Fuller played on the 203 00:10:47,300 --> 00:10:49,260 Thursday night game. He was like a seventh round pick 204 00:10:49,260 --> 00:10:51,300 that year. We took him 4-10. 205 00:10:51,340 --> 00:10:54,380 We had the 3rd pick, took him on the fourth round to make sure we 206 00:10:54,380 --> 00:10:56,500 got his because he had a really good Thursday night game. 207 00:10:57,180 --> 00:11:00,580 Took him really, really high, way higher than in context of 208 00:11:00,580 --> 00:11:03,100 like basketball. We talked about a lot of people 209 00:11:03,100 --> 00:11:05,380 got him in the seventh round way higher than where everyone else 210 00:11:05,380 --> 00:11:07,060 got him. He ended up getting suspended 211 00:11:07,060 --> 00:11:09,460 late that year, but he was a really key piece throughout the 212 00:11:09,460 --> 00:11:12,180 1st, 10 or 11 weeks to us like advancing. 213 00:11:14,060 --> 00:11:17,260 Obviously he didn't end up being a huge part of the the puzzle at 214 00:11:17,260 --> 00:11:20,900 the end, but it was interesting. Like towards the end we didn't. 215 00:11:20,900 --> 00:11:22,980 First of all we didn't even really need him as our fourth 216 00:11:22,980 --> 00:11:25,620 round pick. We were still like live to win 217 00:11:25,620 --> 00:11:30,660 going into the final week, but also that that price difference 218 00:11:30,660 --> 00:11:33,540 compared to every other willful or drafter of like 3 rounds. 219 00:11:34,190 --> 00:11:40,390 It it didn't really come into play big time for us again him 220 00:11:40,390 --> 00:11:43,670 being suspended kind of makes this a tougher A tougher example 221 00:11:43,670 --> 00:11:46,910 but there are other players that we we went and like reached for. 222 00:11:47,230 --> 00:11:50,950 It's just that like when you get to the final round in the main 223 00:11:50,950 --> 00:11:56,830 with sub 10,000 people, it is a more limited number of player of 224 00:11:56,830 --> 00:11:59,830 drafters and the and like. Especially with Manage, where 225 00:11:59,830 --> 00:12:01,910 you can win on the waiver wire as well, right? 226 00:12:02,030 --> 00:12:04,070 You can change up your roster on the waiver wire. 227 00:12:04,110 --> 00:12:06,310 There's a lot of you. Have to set your starting lineup 228 00:12:06,310 --> 00:12:11,950 as well so you know it can be like you might have the league 229 00:12:11,950 --> 00:12:15,070 winner and not play them. And I will say too like one 230 00:12:15,150 --> 00:12:17,790 shit, you know, Obviously we're all in the weeds on the week 17 231 00:12:17,790 --> 00:12:19,430 correlations and stuff like that. 232 00:12:19,430 --> 00:12:23,470 There is obviously a shift here. Week 17 is not as important, but 233 00:12:23,470 --> 00:12:27,640 weeks 15 through 17 in the hole are very important, that Sprint. 234 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,720 And you know, I've looked a lot too at like the best playoff 235 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,600 schedules, you know for for just those weeks as well, looking at 236 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,800 who has the most Dome games. Part of why I was a little 237 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,160 spooked about like even the Patriot stuff is because they 238 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,920 play all these tough outdoor weather games, Weeks 15 through 239 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,280 17. So that's something I want to 240 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:44,960 make sure we have in the back of our head too. 241 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,840 And the way I and I was talking about this with Pat on a best 242 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,600 ball breakfast of just like in an individual draft, you still 243 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,080 want to make the best possible pick if like Mac Jones for 244 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,120 whatever reason, I doubt it. But if for some reason he's the 245 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,640 best possible pick, But then thinking about it from a 246 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,400 portfolio perspective of like tilting your overall exposures 247 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,320 toward the teams that have the the better Sprint. 248 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,840 Because this is still incredibly top heavy and you need to be 249 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,920 optimizing to have the best team 15 through 17. 250 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,480 So I do want to make sure we're thinking through those. 251 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:16,840 And I would say the bar is higher for how good your team 252 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,840 needs to be to take down a three-week Sprint. 253 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,040 Then to advance, advance and then win in the the final week, 254 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,440 right? Like you can squeak through, 255 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,640 squeak through, and then you're as live as anybody. 256 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,520 But if you kind of squeak through in weeks 15 and 16, 257 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,000 you're not very live. You might be blocked, you might 258 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,640 be dead to win the tournament at that point. 259 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,360 So you need to put up a ton of points all three weeks to have a 260 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,080 chance of finishing first in this tournament. 261 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,760 So it but at the same time advancing is more important in 262 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,420 the main event. Than in like best ball media, 263 00:13:48,420 --> 00:13:49,780 you don't really win much if you advance. 264 00:13:49,780 --> 00:13:52,500 The best ball media you win. You win some prizes if you 265 00:13:52,500 --> 00:13:55,180 advance in these leagues. So it's kind of this weird thing 266 00:13:55,180 --> 00:13:58,020 where it's almost like more important to be a super team 267 00:13:58,660 --> 00:14:02,580 when you advance, but also you want to focus more on getting 268 00:14:02,580 --> 00:14:04,300 there. And we'll see that like we 269 00:14:04,300 --> 00:14:06,900 always see that that dynamic you talked about with Fuller. 270 00:14:06,900 --> 00:14:10,500 Like some running back will have, you know, a couple 271 00:14:10,500 --> 00:14:14,780 touchdowns or whatever, Like if Pacheco has a big game. 272 00:14:15,460 --> 00:14:19,620 Thursday night he will be like a second round pick in the Friday 273 00:14:19,620 --> 00:14:21,540 drafts, or maybe even a first right? 274 00:14:21,740 --> 00:14:24,500 That's just the way it always goes cuz people do focus on 275 00:14:24,500 --> 00:14:28,740 advancing these teams. So should we talk? 276 00:14:28,740 --> 00:14:31,140 Let's dive in here. If you guys have been watching 277 00:14:31,140 --> 00:14:33,540 the video of this, we do have the draft board pulled up. 278 00:14:33,540 --> 00:14:38,380 Like I said, we're drafting from the 111 right now, 7 picks are 279 00:14:38,380 --> 00:14:40,540 off the board. Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, 280 00:14:40,540 --> 00:14:43,060 Christian McCaffrey, Travis Kelsey, Tyree Kill, Cooper Cup, 281 00:14:43,340 --> 00:14:46,500 Bijon Robinson, someone on the clock right now at 18. 282 00:14:46,500 --> 00:14:49,420 So we have three more picks before our next pick. 283 00:14:49,780 --> 00:14:53,180 Let's let's kind of just get into it here of kind of who you 284 00:14:53,180 --> 00:14:57,950 guys think would be some of the ideal targets for us at 1:11 and 285 00:14:57,950 --> 00:15:00,430 why you guys are discussing it. I'll pull up that ADP stuff 286 00:15:00,430 --> 00:15:01,750 again here too for the main event. 287 00:15:03,910 --> 00:15:06,630 Yeah, I mean I think probably we're going to see Austin Eckler 288 00:15:06,630 --> 00:15:10,910 go before we get we are on the clock of as one of these next 289 00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:14,590 three picks. I would assume Stefan Diggs as 290 00:15:14,590 --> 00:15:16,870 well, but he might still be there. 291 00:15:17,390 --> 00:15:20,190 I think we're going to be in the CD Lam or A.J. 292 00:15:20,190 --> 00:15:24,630 Brown range as we look at the, you know the current ADP Almond 293 00:15:24,630 --> 00:15:26,070 Rossi, let's. Talk through. 294 00:15:26,710 --> 00:15:28,830 If Eckler was there, though, would he be the pick for you? 295 00:15:29,790 --> 00:15:32,150 He would for me, yeah. Yeah, I think for me he would be 296 00:15:32,150 --> 00:15:37,590 for me and I, I would just guess it's probably what, sub 10%. 297 00:15:37,670 --> 00:15:39,270 He's probably there on 111, yeah. 298 00:15:39,950 --> 00:15:43,510 Since we don't normally take running backs, yeah, we should. 299 00:15:43,670 --> 00:15:44,990 We should mention that just in case. 300 00:15:45,070 --> 00:15:46,790 Well. Bijon's the other one where I 301 00:15:46,790 --> 00:15:48,310 would have. I would have been psyched. 302 00:15:48,510 --> 00:15:50,350 Through it, but he's already off the board, so we don't really 303 00:15:50,350 --> 00:15:53,310 need to spend a ton of time on that, but I think we're we are. 304 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,880 To your question about Eckler, we are angling pretty quickly 305 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,240 toward a potential receiver, receiver start. 306 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,240 I think that Mark Andrews in round two thing is an 307 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,920 interesting conversation. Maybe you can get into like a 308 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,080 Jonathan Taylor in round two conversation, although I mean 309 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,880 I'm, I'll just say for me targets, the targets would be 310 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,840 Lamb if he gets there over A J. Brown. 311 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,680 As much oh, I like a J. Brown a lot more than lamb. 312 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,600 OK, that's a good discussion. And then actually like even even 313 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,160 bigger targets for me, Alman Ross St. 314 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,680 Brown, I mean Lamb. I think from a cost and like 315 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,200 portfolio perspective, I definitely want some Alman Ross 316 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,960 a guy I want like as much as I can get my hands on this year. 317 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,480 And then Garrett Wilson is similar to Alman Roth. 318 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,400 Those are two guys that I'm really excited about. 319 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,400 I'm curious how you guys fit with like that group of guys. 320 00:16:44,270 --> 00:16:47,230 Well one one thing I would just mention and again because I'm 321 00:16:47,230 --> 00:16:50,470 I'm legitimately trying to reorient my brain from underdog 322 00:16:50,470 --> 00:16:53,870 stuff, half point PPR. It is interesting that Aman Ra's 323 00:16:53,950 --> 00:16:55,670 ADP, I guess he is going ahead of A.J. 324 00:16:55,670 --> 00:16:57,350 Brown here. So maybe that reflects like the 325 00:16:57,350 --> 00:17:00,870 half point versus full point, but Aman RA in full point I 326 00:17:00,870 --> 00:17:05,230 think I like him over digs even. Yeah, in in this format. 327 00:17:05,230 --> 00:17:07,750 I think Amanra versus CD's an interesting one, but I just 328 00:17:07,750 --> 00:17:10,670 wanted to make the point that Aman RA is very interesting to 329 00:17:10,670 --> 00:17:15,069 me and also another team Detroit schedule is playoff schedule is 330 00:17:15,109 --> 00:17:20,030 awesome. Pat, what's your case for A.J. 331 00:17:20,030 --> 00:17:25,910 Brown over? Lamb he's, I think a much better 332 00:17:25,910 --> 00:17:28,390 receiver. I don't think we quite got the 333 00:17:28,390 --> 00:17:31,990 full CD Lamb breakout. CD Lamb is good, but he's not 334 00:17:31,990 --> 00:17:36,550 like A.J. Brown is incredibly good and CD 335 00:17:36,550 --> 00:17:38,430 Lamb is. I don't think he's a superstar. 336 00:17:38,430 --> 00:17:43,770 I think he's very good player. A J Brown's on a better offense, 337 00:17:44,130 --> 00:17:49,090 I think pretty clearly. He finished third in open score 338 00:17:49,090 --> 00:17:51,250 last year behind Deonte Johnson and Tyler Lockett. 339 00:17:51,890 --> 00:17:56,370 He's, you know, his stats were a little bit underwhelming in 340 00:17:56,370 --> 00:17:59,770 certain games, but they pulled their starters in several games 341 00:17:59,770 --> 00:18:02,090 last year. Is about as high as a weekly 342 00:18:02,090 --> 00:18:04,730 ceiling of any wide receiver on the board. 343 00:18:04,850 --> 00:18:07,570 I think he's up there with Jefferson and Chase and and Cup 344 00:18:07,570 --> 00:18:10,250 in terms of like his weekly potential. 345 00:18:12,230 --> 00:18:14,830 You know, yeah, he's got to deal with Demonte Smith and Dallas 346 00:18:14,830 --> 00:18:16,150 Goddard. Some target competition. 347 00:18:16,150 --> 00:18:18,710 They're not going to throw as many times as some other 348 00:18:18,710 --> 00:18:21,350 offenses. But I I think the Cowboys are 349 00:18:22,190 --> 00:18:26,390 kind of a sneaky, like, really disappointing offense candidate. 350 00:18:26,390 --> 00:18:28,510 Maybe not even sneaky. I mean we all, we've all, but 351 00:18:28,510 --> 00:18:31,630 it's a McCarthy offense. Like there's some real downside 352 00:18:31,630 --> 00:18:35,190 risk there. And I'm taking the player who I 353 00:18:35,190 --> 00:18:37,990 think is less talented. In fairness to Lamb, he finished 354 00:18:37,990 --> 00:18:40,110 fifth and open score. He's good but. 355 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,200 Like when you just look at some of the advanced stats. 356 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,240 I mean, Agent Brown's off the charts again. 357 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,320 He's off the charts every single year he's in his prime. 358 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,560 He's better than Devonte Smith, like by decent amounts, even 359 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,160 though, you know, Devonte Smith got a lot of targets last year, 360 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,240 too. Devon Smith's very good. 361 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,040 But I'm just like, I'm getting an elite player on an elite 362 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,880 offense. I don't really want to overthink 363 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,000 it. So I I mean, obviously all this 364 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,960 stuff about Agent Brown being great, I agree with four 365 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,640 straight years of a 2.5 plus. Yards per out run, which is an 366 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,520 incredibly good number. You're the one who referenced, I 367 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,120 think with Debo a couple years ago, I can't remember who, but 368 00:19:17,360 --> 00:19:20,320 starting your career with multiple years of 2.5 yards per 369 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,040 out run in a row is really strong. 370 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,920 And he's done it four years in a row, now 2. 3 yards per out run 371 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,720 in a row was the static EBO. And yeah, so I mean, what he's 372 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,250 done, it's two, yeah. What he's done is. 2.5 373 00:19:32,250 --> 00:19:36,330 Believable Lamb's breakout last year 2.38 Still an incredibly 374 00:19:36,330 --> 00:19:38,090 strong number. Lamb has started his career at 375 00:19:38,090 --> 00:19:42,050 1.812062.38. Is back-to-back year emerged as 376 00:19:42,050 --> 00:19:43,650 a class wide receiver one for sure. 377 00:19:43,770 --> 00:19:45,410 I just don't. But no, no. 378 00:19:45,410 --> 00:19:47,410 But. But to your point, even in his 379 00:19:47,410 --> 00:19:50,050 breakout of 2.38, he's not better than any year of AJ 380 00:19:50,050 --> 00:19:52,210 Brown's 4 year career. He's not even particularly close 381 00:19:52,370 --> 00:19:53,970 to your point. That's very valid. 382 00:19:54,330 --> 00:19:58,450 My issue with Brown, as much as I've obviously loved him, you 383 00:19:58,450 --> 00:20:02,430 know, every year of his career. Is that I do feel like last year 384 00:20:02,630 --> 00:20:06,950 somewhat from a statistical standpoint, he like that wasn't 385 00:20:06,950 --> 00:20:09,910 like the best case scenario and he didn't hit a real ceiling. 386 00:20:10,110 --> 00:20:12,710 So this price at late first round. 387 00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:16,350 I really disagree with that that it was a best case scenario like 388 00:20:16,350 --> 00:20:19,910 they the case OK. I mean, they pulled their 389 00:20:19,910 --> 00:20:24,070 starters in a bunch of games. Like he didn't get like purely 390 00:20:24,070 --> 00:20:26,230 from a, you know, accumulation standpoint. 391 00:20:26,230 --> 00:20:28,030 He was. He was neutered in some games. 392 00:20:30,020 --> 00:20:31,100 Well, I guess. What games? 393 00:20:31,900 --> 00:20:32,620 How many? The Steelers? 394 00:20:32,620 --> 00:20:37,220 Game they pulled their starters. There's a couple others. 395 00:20:37,460 --> 00:20:39,300 Plus they also had the games where they would just like wipe 396 00:20:39,300 --> 00:20:41,100 the floor with guys and then run all over them for the 397 00:20:41,100 --> 00:20:44,380 second-half, like if they're more competitive this year. 398 00:20:44,660 --> 00:20:46,100 The other thing about the Eagles is they are. 399 00:20:46,300 --> 00:20:47,940 They showed a willingness to go toe to toe. 400 00:20:47,940 --> 00:20:50,340 They showed a willingness to attack like that Bears game. 401 00:20:50,340 --> 00:20:51,980 Everyone thought they would just run the entire game. 402 00:20:51,980 --> 00:20:56,180 They were aggressive in the beginning and then they did run 403 00:20:56,180 --> 00:21:00,070 the ball a decent amount but. They attacked a very, very poor 404 00:21:00,070 --> 00:21:04,310 Bears secondary before they ran all over a very Bad Bears run 405 00:21:04,310 --> 00:21:07,030 defense. And so I think, like his best 406 00:21:07,030 --> 00:21:11,590 case scenario is some teams push back on them, but there's still 407 00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:14,430 a percentage of their dropbacks that are going to be Jalen Hurt 408 00:21:14,430 --> 00:21:16,270 scrambles. A percentage of their play con. 409 00:21:16,270 --> 00:21:17,590 That's going to be Jalen Hurts. Rush's. 410 00:21:17,590 --> 00:21:20,830 Jalen Hurts himself had more carries inside the 10 yard line 411 00:21:20,830 --> 00:21:23,190 than pass attempts. That's not just team rush 412 00:21:23,190 --> 00:21:25,430 attempts, It's quarterback rush attempts. 413 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,160 Right. Like as far as the touchdown 414 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,880 rate being so heavily leaning towards their running Td's, I do 415 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,640 think that has to regress some. They had a massive rushing TD 416 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,240 rate, 32 rushing Td's. I don't think Hertz is gonna run 417 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,920 13 Td's again. But there is like a systemic 418 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,040 this is the way we attack in close. 419 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,320 This is our red zone plan. And then in terms of like 420 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,040 overall pass volume, I hear you that they they pull their 421 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:53,490 starters on their their pass rate maybe can tick up a little. 422 00:21:53,490 --> 00:21:55,570 I actually you know you're you're selling me on that a 423 00:21:55,570 --> 00:21:59,290 little bit but how much more can their pass rate go up And when 424 00:21:59,290 --> 00:22:02,210 you look at their target volume last year they stayed so healthy 425 00:22:03,050 --> 00:22:05,210 only four wide receivers got a target all year. 426 00:22:05,610 --> 00:22:07,730 They were able to do a lot of that RPO stuff that I wrote 427 00:22:07,730 --> 00:22:10,330 about where they were like you just look at their targets A J. 428 00:22:10,330 --> 00:22:14,690 Brown 145, Duan dismiss 136. Dallas guard 69, misses five 429 00:22:14,690 --> 00:22:18,250 games. Quez is at 51 as their fourth 430 00:22:18,250 --> 00:22:20,180 highest targeted player. Gain. 431 00:22:20,180 --> 00:22:22,260 Wells at 29. After that, Sanders. 432 00:22:22,260 --> 00:22:24,220 Miles Sanders 26. And they don't have another guy 433 00:22:24,220 --> 00:22:27,740 over 20 targets. It's like the hundred 45136. 434 00:22:27,740 --> 00:22:30,100 And then it's just like a steep drop to their third, fourth, 435 00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:32,380 fifth Guys. It could be that concentrated 436 00:22:32,380 --> 00:22:34,460 again, I actually think. How would it not do things? 437 00:22:34,620 --> 00:22:36,380 It won't be the media's the keyest guy. 438 00:22:36,820 --> 00:22:39,940 No, it will be. But my point is that's why I'm 439 00:22:39,940 --> 00:22:42,860 saying it's maxed out. Yeah, I think you actually are 440 00:22:42,860 --> 00:22:44,860 selling me a little bit that they could throw more and they 441 00:22:44,860 --> 00:22:46,620 could be pushed more and all those things. 442 00:22:46,980 --> 00:22:50,840 But basically, Brown can't consolidate what volume there is 443 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,120 more. So you need Jalen Hertz to 444 00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:54,760 suddenly not be running. You need design runs to come way 445 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,560 down, quarterback design runs, and I do think they're still 446 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,720 gonna call those things as well. So I agree with you, it's still 447 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,480 gonna be as concentrated and maybe there is still some meat 448 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,680 on the bone here, but how much more meat is there for the 449 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,720 overall team pass volume? I think it's a really fair 450 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,720 question. So just to bring us down to 451 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,170 earth just a little bit. My guess there, there certainly 452 00:23:17,170 --> 00:23:19,650 is a scenario where we have a CD Lamb versus a J. 453 00:23:19,650 --> 00:23:22,490 Brown decision. I think the most likely thing is 454 00:23:22,490 --> 00:23:29,170 that Eckler, Lamb and Diggs are the three next picks and the one 455 00:23:29,170 --> 00:23:31,170 thing that I would maybe push to. 456 00:23:31,550 --> 00:23:34,430 Lamb over A.J. Brown is simply the fact that 457 00:23:34,430 --> 00:23:37,230 the of the ATP game and that there's a much better chance 458 00:23:37,230 --> 00:23:39,270 that A.J. Brown comes back around and you 459 00:23:39,270 --> 00:23:42,430 could maybe get both of them. Because with the 12 drafter, 460 00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:44,430 it's kind of like a choose your own adventure there. 461 00:23:44,430 --> 00:23:46,630 Like if they want a running back, they could take Berkeley 462 00:23:46,710 --> 00:23:48,590 or Jonathan Taylor. If they want the elite tight 463 00:23:48,590 --> 00:23:50,350 end, they're going to reach for Mark Andrews. 464 00:23:50,350 --> 00:23:52,990 They're like there's combos they could do that don't involve wide 465 00:23:52,990 --> 00:23:55,950 receiver, wide receiver. So that's just one other thing 466 00:23:56,190 --> 00:23:57,950 to consider Also in that scenario. 467 00:23:57,950 --> 00:24:00,420 There's a chance that. Amanra St. 468 00:24:00,420 --> 00:24:02,060 Brown is also pushing another guy down. 469 00:24:02,060 --> 00:24:06,220 So just like the in this in this format, does Hertz make it to 470 00:24:06,220 --> 00:24:09,900 3/4 at all? He it looks like his ADP is 3/2 471 00:24:09,900 --> 00:24:13,060 right now, which is interesting cuz that's correlated ADP wise 472 00:24:13,060 --> 00:24:17,460 with the Devonta Smith who goes at 2:10 and then or 211 and then 473 00:24:17,540 --> 00:24:19,660 hers goes at 3:00 two. I would also be more compelled 474 00:24:19,660 --> 00:24:21,740 if we had a shot to get Hertz at 3-4. 475 00:24:22,180 --> 00:24:24,380 I think if we want to set up a premium stack like that, the 476 00:24:24,380 --> 00:24:27,020 only real opportunity we have is an Andrews Lamar. 477 00:24:27,430 --> 00:24:32,270 Cuz Lamar does go at the 3-4 turn, but just to kind of just 478 00:24:32,270 --> 00:24:35,710 to finish up this wide receiver conversation, I said we might be 479 00:24:35,710 --> 00:24:38,710 on different pages later. I think we're on different pages 480 00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:41,350 now. I don't really like CD Lam as 481 00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:45,350 the pick like at all. Like I would rather take atoms 482 00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:49,270 over CD Lam at the end. What I would say about the ADP 483 00:24:49,270 --> 00:24:52,030 game, I mean this whole Jimmy Garoppolo. 484 00:24:52,810 --> 00:24:55,090 You know, everyone, like, so afraid that he was not going to 485 00:24:55,090 --> 00:24:56,810 be their quarterback and what was going to happen to Adams, 486 00:24:56,810 --> 00:25:00,330 Like, that stuff is over now. We all, you know, probably 487 00:25:00,330 --> 00:25:02,130 overreacted. I thought I was actually real 488 00:25:02,130 --> 00:25:05,290 heavy on Adams, came to find out, checking today that I was 489 00:25:05,290 --> 00:25:07,530 just like slightly overweight. So I'm, I'm a little annoyed 490 00:25:07,530 --> 00:25:09,610 with myself for not being more aggressive with him. 491 00:25:09,610 --> 00:25:14,650 But I mean, he's someone that I think like, why aren't we taking 492 00:25:14,650 --> 00:25:15,410 him over? CD land? 493 00:25:16,530 --> 00:25:19,570 He's awesome and he's, he's got a quarterback in place. 494 00:25:19,570 --> 00:25:20,850 They're going to have to throw a bunch. 495 00:25:21,250 --> 00:25:22,410 They're running backs holding out. 496 00:25:23,170 --> 00:25:27,890 Jacoby Myers is like, fine, but he's not going to like Impinge 497 00:25:27,890 --> 00:25:29,530 on Devonte Adams ability to earn targets. 498 00:25:29,530 --> 00:25:32,170 The guy's an incredible RAL runner and has been for years. 499 00:25:32,810 --> 00:25:37,570 So, like, I I guess what my thing with Lamb is like if I 500 00:25:37,570 --> 00:25:40,890 don't think he's more talented than Brown or Adams, why don't 501 00:25:40,890 --> 00:25:44,090 you think Lamb is talented? I do think he's talented. 502 00:25:44,090 --> 00:25:46,290 I don't think he's more talented than A J. 503 00:25:46,290 --> 00:25:50,210 Brown or Devonte Adams. Yeah, then. 504 00:25:50,210 --> 00:25:53,290 And if that's the case, am I excited about his offense? 505 00:25:53,690 --> 00:25:55,690 And for me the the answer is like, no. 506 00:25:55,810 --> 00:25:58,090 I I'm, I'm nervous about his offense. 507 00:25:58,810 --> 00:26:00,890 So then what? So then OK, let me think. 508 00:26:01,290 --> 00:26:03,410 If I'm going to a guy who I don't think is as talented as 509 00:26:03,410 --> 00:26:07,970 those two guys, I think I I'd almost rather take Aminara or 510 00:26:07,970 --> 00:26:11,530 something where, you know, I know I'm the wack of our stuff 511 00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:12,930 are. We all are you guys. 512 00:26:12,930 --> 00:26:15,330 All because I think I'm I'm a monrah. 513 00:26:15,370 --> 00:26:17,770 Even over lamb. Like, are you guys a monrah over 514 00:26:17,770 --> 00:26:20,830 lamb? It's close to me. 515 00:26:20,830 --> 00:26:26,350 Honestly, I'd probably be Lamb just, but that's like a real 516 00:26:26,350 --> 00:26:29,270 coin flip for me. Cuz if that's a coin flip, what 517 00:26:29,270 --> 00:26:32,110 we could do if we're in the spot, assuming it goes Eckler, 518 00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:38,230 Diggs and well, if Lamb goes off, we're gonna have A.J. 519 00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:42,560 Brown, Amanra. And so Pat, you're saying you're 520 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,680 basically A.J. Brown, Devonta Lamb and Ammanra 521 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,040 as a coin flip. After those two, I would have 522 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,960 both of Lamb and Ammanra ahead of A.J. 523 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,560 Brown and Adams, probably in a vacuum. 524 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,240 So that's that's tricky. Where do you fall in those? 525 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:04,160 But. If Adams ADP was 9.9 or 9.81 526 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,000 spot ahead of Lamb, would that change things for you? 527 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,480 Because I think that's where we're headed. 528 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,920 I think Adams is gonna come back up and pass him again. 529 00:27:11,690 --> 00:27:13,570 I'm pretty concerned about the Raiders and the ways that you're 530 00:27:13,570 --> 00:27:15,810 concerned about the Cowboys. I'm way more concerned about the 531 00:27:15,810 --> 00:27:19,490 Raiders than the Cowboys. Josh McDaniels I don't think is 532 00:27:19,490 --> 00:27:22,290 a good coach and I think there's like there's I think there's 533 00:27:22,290 --> 00:27:27,170 like legit we have a meltdown in in tear down kind of situation. 534 00:27:27,210 --> 00:27:30,930 Yeah like just and Adams maybe even like traded mid season and 535 00:27:30,930 --> 00:27:33,850 then he's trying to like catch on in a new offense mid season. 536 00:27:33,890 --> 00:27:36,090 There was some talk about them potentially moving him this off 537 00:27:36,090 --> 00:27:37,880 season. Yeah, I just feel like we're 538 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,040 looking at some weird outcomes with for the Raiders personally. 539 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,640 That feels fair. The other thing let's to kind of 540 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,640 reframe it and then we can maybe circle back is the other big 541 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,400 decision point is because we certainly will line up to go 542 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,160 wide receiver, wide receiver. I think we're going to like a 543 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,120 guy like Devonte Adams or Garrett Wilson there. 544 00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:56,840 The other thing is, do we entertain a Mark Andrews reach 545 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,200 or do we entertain a guy I think all of us like as well, and 546 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,480 Jonathan Taylor, who I expect. To also be there in the early 547 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,160 2nd, so to me that's kind of the decision. 548 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,840 Is it wide receiver, wide receiver or wide receiver? 549 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,840 Jonathan Taylor, How where you going? 550 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,000 I'm pretty high on Taylor. Where are you out on Taylor, 551 00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:17,120 Pat? I like Taylor. 552 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,080 I mean, me too. It's tough because I'm like used 553 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,640 to getting Taylor in the late 2nd now with best ball drafts or 554 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,200 the mid to late 2nd and so I I'm passing on. 555 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:32,120 I've gotten used to passing on Taylor from the 11 hole, but. 556 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,080 I mean it's Jonathan Taylor. Like he could be the the running 557 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,600 back one pretty easily, I guess. He definitely takes a bit more 558 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:47,480 of a hit in this PPR format. You know, if Minshew plays this 559 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,040 year, he's really not. I think he could have Minshew 560 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,760 played. Minshew, yeah, But I I'm very 561 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,880 skeptical that Minshew plays. I mean, maybe a game or two, but 562 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,000 I I don't think Minshew's getting any real run. 563 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,840 Like they they know what this year is. 564 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,280 It's first year for the head coach. 565 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,880 They just spent the third overall pick on this guy. 566 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,840 They're fully committed. They've never even really hinted 567 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,920 that they want to play Minshew for for anything. 568 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,160 Like, I think if Richardson's bad enough, Minshew comes over 569 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,640 from Philly with Stikin and knows the offense that it's a 570 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,960 pretty easy Hey, we need to sit him down this the backup knows 571 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,440 the. He's playing, yeah, but 572 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,120 Richardson has to be really bad and and probably in a way that's 573 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,560 hurting Taylor's early season. Run out. 574 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,880 Like he's, you know, like we're kind of like, all right, 575 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,000 Minshew's in. It's week six. 576 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,770 Maybe this wasn't a bust. So it makes me nervous. 577 00:29:32,330 --> 00:29:33,690 I just don't. I don't really think there's a 578 00:29:33,690 --> 00:29:36,490 Minshew starts the first six games and and it's productive 579 00:29:36,490 --> 00:29:40,090 and Taylor Taylor's doing great because of that type of outcome. 580 00:29:40,090 --> 00:29:41,170 I don't. I don't think that's the plan, 581 00:29:41,170 --> 00:29:42,490 No. I think Richardson starts week 582 00:29:42,490 --> 00:29:43,650 one. I think there's some chance that 583 00:29:43,650 --> 00:29:45,970 he gets sat down for a bit and then comes back. 584 00:29:45,970 --> 00:29:49,450 Basically, but that's that's not good for Taylor. 585 00:29:49,690 --> 00:29:53,250 Maybe it's good in a sense. It's gonna be a rough ride for 586 00:29:53,250 --> 00:29:55,810 signing up for a rough ride in managed if that happens. 587 00:29:56,490 --> 00:29:59,690 So one thing just to just to then because I know you we did 588 00:29:59,690 --> 00:30:02,690 mention Andrews. Like I think my lien would be 589 00:30:02,690 --> 00:30:05,770 like looking at the draft grid like the current ADP draft grid 590 00:30:05,770 --> 00:30:09,930 would be to almost like play our late slots as more punt tight 591 00:30:09,930 --> 00:30:13,090 end builds unless there's a super interesting faller. 592 00:30:13,090 --> 00:30:16,650 And then be like let's play in Andrews or Hawkinson or Kittle 593 00:30:16,650 --> 00:30:19,650 through our middle tight end slots and then let's play Kelsey 594 00:30:19,650 --> 00:30:22,250 and pits from our early draft slots. 595 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,440 Just based on currently how Adp's lining up and I guess the 596 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,760 argument would be how solidified is this, We're going to see a 597 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,240 lot of movement, but just if we are getting pretty good volume 598 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,880 down that would be my only thought there on on the Andrews 599 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,680 point, I think that's a, I think it's a fair one and kind of 600 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,760 where I fall too. And then similarly with Taylor 601 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:47,720 having an ADP right now it's very, very early, but it's 17.3. 602 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,640 I'm hesitant to pull the trigger on him and the 1-2 turn in part 603 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,960 because anybody that can get back to a Cooper Copper at Tyree 604 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,520 Hill or even like a Jamar Chase team and you get Taylor and we 605 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,440 have, you know, whoever we settle on as our first time 606 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,080 receiver. And Taylor like, I feel like 607 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,440 we're pretty big dogs in that spot. 608 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,520 Like I think yeah, I wanna, I wanna be taking guys at the 11, 609 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,840 the 1-2 turn at the 11 spot here that I don't think the Cup or 610 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:18,190 Tyree Drafter or Travis Kelsey drafter is going to get really 611 00:31:18,190 --> 00:31:20,190 ever. And so in that regard, like I 612 00:31:20,190 --> 00:31:21,430 think I would lean even towards A.J. 613 00:31:21,430 --> 00:31:24,110 Brown over over Taylor, even though I think I might prefer 614 00:31:24,110 --> 00:31:27,390 Taylor in a vacuum. Yeah, that's fair too. 615 00:31:27,390 --> 00:31:31,470 And also depending on like how close we have guys like Pollard 616 00:31:31,590 --> 00:31:35,030 and Ramondre in Breese, I think we all like Taylor Smidge ahead. 617 00:31:35,030 --> 00:31:39,830 But maybe how much to justify not letting the kind of the room 618 00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:42,110 dictate where you're taking those early running backs? 619 00:31:43,070 --> 00:31:46,940 Yeah, although if we wanna. If we want a hero's RV, start 620 00:31:47,620 --> 00:31:49,540 like a true hero. I mean, we can get a we can get 621 00:31:49,540 --> 00:31:51,860 an ETN in the fourth or something. 622 00:31:51,860 --> 00:31:55,460 But if we want that true hero running back start, it's Taylor 623 00:31:55,460 --> 00:31:58,300 or Chubb based on this ADP Cuz we're not. 624 00:31:58,420 --> 00:31:59,860 From this part of the board from. 625 00:31:59,940 --> 00:32:02,060 This part of the board, Yeah, so. 626 00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:05,420 Cuz that's a good point too to bring up, because maybe like we 627 00:32:05,420 --> 00:32:10,100 wouldn't like if Gibbs fell to the Lady Gibbs 311 three. 11 I 628 00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:12,100 would be pretty into I'd be yeah. 629 00:32:12,810 --> 00:32:14,890 It's not a true hero RB to your point Pat. 630 00:32:14,890 --> 00:32:17,930 It's not like it's not, I mean. I play him like I just drafted. 631 00:32:18,010 --> 00:32:20,010 You've said that. I was just gonna bring that up. 632 00:32:20,050 --> 00:32:22,210 Yeah, I think of it too. Now when I take him, I'm like, 633 00:32:22,210 --> 00:32:24,730 it's a really smart way of thinking about drafting him, I 634 00:32:24,730 --> 00:32:26,330 think. Yeah, yeah, cuz he fits that 635 00:32:26,330 --> 00:32:28,490 archetype. Yeah, I just took a six running 636 00:32:28,490 --> 00:32:31,850 back build in best Bowl Mania with Gibbs in the third round. 637 00:32:31,850 --> 00:32:33,290 Like that's how I build with him usually. 638 00:32:33,950 --> 00:32:37,990 Not to reopen the can of worms, the one case for Andrews Reach 639 00:32:37,990 --> 00:32:40,390 is what Pat was saying about Lamar's ADP. 640 00:32:40,390 --> 00:32:41,150 Well, don't. Right. 641 00:32:41,150 --> 00:32:44,470 Yeah I I want this can of worms open like I I like Andrews on 642 00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:49,310 the 2nd is a like OK Andrews was what like a late first round 643 00:32:49,310 --> 00:32:52,910 pick last year. He's like they they're talking 644 00:32:52,910 --> 00:32:58,350 about taking Lamar Jackson back to the Louisville offense having 645 00:32:58,350 --> 00:33:01,510 him having spread out the defense like throwing way more. 646 00:33:02,030 --> 00:33:05,510 We've for years were like. Man, if Lamar just like had 647 00:33:05,510 --> 00:33:08,390 enough pass attempts, he'd be at, he'd be at such a smash, 648 00:33:08,470 --> 00:33:13,150 it's like he might he might get them this year like and I and 649 00:33:13,150 --> 00:33:16,070 that also feels like a drum beat situation. 650 00:33:16,630 --> 00:33:20,590 You know, maybe maybe Andrews right now could be available to 651 00:33:20,590 --> 00:33:25,150 some Cup drafters, but he could easily become the one O 9. 652 00:33:26,150 --> 00:33:28,590 Yeah, easily. I'm just, I'm just saying based 653 00:33:28,590 --> 00:33:31,470 on ADP, there's a lot of teams probably who are able to get 654 00:33:31,470 --> 00:33:33,670 Mark Andrews from the middle of the board and then have Lamar 655 00:33:33,670 --> 00:33:36,790 now and slip a couple spots and get him in the middle of the. 656 00:33:36,790 --> 00:33:40,030 Board now, but I'm saying like there's, I don't know that this 657 00:33:40,030 --> 00:33:42,670 has been internalized by the market that especially in a 658 00:33:42,670 --> 00:33:46,190 tight end premium format that like the Ravens, all indications 659 00:33:46,190 --> 00:33:48,790 are that they are planning to throw a lot more this year and 660 00:33:48,790 --> 00:33:52,150 be more aggressive and like literally moving from a guy 661 00:33:52,150 --> 00:33:54,820 who's like describing his. Offense is like a Stone Age 662 00:33:54,820 --> 00:33:57,500 offense to a guy who's like we want to spread out defenses and 663 00:33:57,500 --> 00:34:00,660 attack them, but you still have an issue of how many of those 664 00:34:00,660 --> 00:34:03,740 dropbacks turn into scrambles and turn to non pass attempts. 665 00:34:03,780 --> 00:34:05,660 Sure, but you I do. Tight end. 666 00:34:06,340 --> 00:34:08,060 He's the number one receiver on his team. 667 00:34:08,260 --> 00:34:10,420 Yeah, he led. He led the NFL. 668 00:34:10,420 --> 00:34:12,500 He led all tight ends in open score last year. 669 00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:15,860 Head of Kelsey. The dude is even in tight end 670 00:34:15,860 --> 00:34:19,260 premium, though my point is even in tight end premium, I wouldn't 671 00:34:19,260 --> 00:34:22,020 get there to take him over the receivers we've talked about. 672 00:34:23,050 --> 00:34:25,010 I don't think it's a drum. I I think I disagree with you. 673 00:34:25,010 --> 00:34:26,810 I don't think he can easily be the 109. 674 00:34:26,810 --> 00:34:28,690 I don't think he can easily go ahead of Diggs and. 675 00:34:28,730 --> 00:34:31,969 He was last year, wasn't he? Wasn't he in that 110 range last 676 00:34:31,969 --> 00:34:35,969 year? I don't see why he couldn't get 677 00:34:35,969 --> 00:34:39,489 back there given that we'll we'll ultimately be more excited 678 00:34:39,489 --> 00:34:40,929 about the Ravens this year than we were last year. 679 00:34:40,929 --> 00:34:44,730 I think it's a different board is what I would argue it's a 680 00:34:44,730 --> 00:34:47,370 different board at the 1-2 turn, yeah. 681 00:34:47,810 --> 00:34:51,330 To me Pat like the the the and again I know we're just talking 682 00:34:51,330 --> 00:34:55,530 about a few pics of ADP but the classic like reaching in our 683 00:34:55,530 --> 00:34:58,530 first draft for the yeah to get the elite that feels like our 684 00:34:58,530 --> 00:35:02,210 old bullshit to be where it's like I I don't know I because I 685 00:35:02,210 --> 00:35:05,250 do think I do think there are gonna be some drafters and I 686 00:35:05,250 --> 00:35:07,450 don't have a good I I'll admit I don't have a finger on the pulse 687 00:35:07,450 --> 00:35:10,490 of how FFPC draft rooms are shaking out right now but we did 688 00:35:10,490 --> 00:35:13,450 see like in main events like the room does determine does someone 689 00:35:13,450 --> 00:35:16,010 want the non. Travis Kelsey tied in early and 690 00:35:16,010 --> 00:35:18,250 you probably will see a decent band on Mark Andrews. 691 00:35:18,250 --> 00:35:20,890 You'll see him sometimes go at the 1-2 turn and you'll probably 692 00:35:20,890 --> 00:35:25,250 also see him slide to, you know, team three, you know, in some 693 00:35:25,250 --> 00:35:26,530 drafts. So that's the only thing of like 694 00:35:26,530 --> 00:35:30,450 do we give ourselves a chance to get him at a really insane price 695 00:35:30,690 --> 00:35:33,370 versus this is what we did on pits last year if we took him at 696 00:35:33,370 --> 00:35:36,530 the 1-2 turn or. Yeah, but we're not playing for 697 00:35:36,530 --> 00:35:39,170 a breakout here. We're playing for Mark Andrews. 698 00:35:39,850 --> 00:35:43,040 Like IF Kelsey. It doesn't repeat, you know, at 699 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:47,160 an old age this year it could be easily, it could be Mark Andrews 700 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,240 and no one else is worth drafting in tight end premium 701 00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:52,520 until later like that. You know that could easily 702 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,640 happen. Andrews is a huge target for me 703 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,920 this year as well. I would like at 16% on my best 704 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,960 ball stuff on underdog like I'm drafting a lot of them in tight 705 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,360 end premium. I think he's pretty clear target 706 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,160 I've been scooping him too and I I I mean I think you make a a 707 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,920 strong case I'm just I land more with Pete where I think we'll 708 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:18,920 get opportunities from the 105106107 draft slots from the 709 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,440 1:11 to take him at 202 does feel especially in our first 710 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,920 draft it feels a little aggressive to me. 711 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,280 I I don't even think it's a bad choice. 712 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,520 I just think from a portfolio. Yeah, I just think this is where 713 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,760 he's gonna settle and it's not gonna be. 714 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,620 To me it's not. Pitch thing I think we did this 715 00:36:35,620 --> 00:36:38,180 two years ago too and and reach for a tight end and that didn't 716 00:36:38,180 --> 00:36:41,500 work either might have been even Andrews so so maybe you know it 717 00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:44,100 might be our old bullshit but but I think it's a little 718 00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:47,660 difference than you know paying up to get that breakout guy. 719 00:36:47,980 --> 00:36:49,980 I think you're paying up to get a guy who's gonna go around this 720 00:36:49,980 --> 00:36:52,620 range. Yeah, so then are there. 721 00:36:52,940 --> 00:36:55,660 It seems like we're all in agreement that this first pick 722 00:36:55,660 --> 00:36:58,820 is gonna be a wide receiver. And then it seems like the one 723 00:36:58,820 --> 00:37:02,220 thing, the one issue we would have is if it goes. 724 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:07,160 Deckler digs a Mon raw and then we have to do a Lamb versus A.J. 725 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,480 Brown debate. And then in the second round, 726 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,920 it's kind of, it sounds like debating best available wide 727 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,080 receiver versus JT versus Andrews is probably those those 728 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:24,280 are the most likely decisions. Yeah, just, I mean another thing 729 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:29,320 on the Lamb thing is that they did just also add Brandon Cooks, 730 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:34,040 which I mean Grant Cooks isn't. Like a massive threat to Lamb or 731 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,960 anything. But like and I they'll also lost 732 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,800 Dalton Schalz so that maybe, you know it's not a huge difference 733 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,720 but it's like it's like when we look at like Lamb situation. 734 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:45,560 I'm like he has probably more target competition than last 735 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,000 year. Michael Gallops been getting 736 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,240 some good buzz two years off the ACL. 737 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,040 He also might be done so he might not matter at all. 738 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:57,560 But there's just like they lost Kellan Moore for scoring too 739 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,840 many points. Like, I'm just like, man this. 740 00:38:01,650 --> 00:38:05,010 This is just not a situation. I'm it's kind of the best ball 741 00:38:05,010 --> 00:38:06,290 thing you were talking about before, Ben. 742 00:38:06,290 --> 00:38:09,690 Like in best ball I'm often just being like, well, fuck it, I'll 743 00:38:09,690 --> 00:38:11,450 take Lamb here. I don't want to be completely 744 00:38:11,450 --> 00:38:12,490 out on City. Lamb is very good. 745 00:38:13,090 --> 00:38:16,770 But in like our first main event, I'm just like, yeah, like 746 00:38:17,130 --> 00:38:19,570 this just gives me like a pit in my stomach when I think about, 747 00:38:21,050 --> 00:38:22,570 yeah, that's how I am with the wrong Adams. 748 00:38:22,570 --> 00:38:24,810 I get it. I I, I, I have counters to all 749 00:38:24,810 --> 00:38:26,450 those things you just said. But I get it. 750 00:38:26,490 --> 00:38:29,740 I mean, it's like, it's a tough one, but this is like cooks. 751 00:38:30,060 --> 00:38:32,780 Cooks turns 30 in September. Like, I actually think his 752 00:38:32,780 --> 00:38:37,340 target competition is like, it can't be called worse than last 753 00:38:37,340 --> 00:38:38,500 year. I don't see how you I. 754 00:38:38,580 --> 00:38:40,300 Think it's I think it's more talented than last year. 755 00:38:40,300 --> 00:38:42,500 I mean, Dalton, Schultz is a tight end and I mean very 756 00:38:42,500 --> 00:38:44,260 marginally if you're going to make that claim, very. 757 00:38:44,340 --> 00:38:46,940 Marginal wide receiver? Yeah, no. 758 00:38:46,940 --> 00:38:49,860 Cooks is good. But like, there's one other How? 759 00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:53,220 What's that? He's an upgrade on Noah Brown. 760 00:38:54,450 --> 00:38:57,050 Yeah, no, no, I know. But like I'm saying, it's still 761 00:38:57,050 --> 00:39:00,130 not enough to stop Lamb. If Lamb is good enough to be a 762 00:39:00,130 --> 00:39:03,010 111 type player, it's still not good enough for him to 763 00:39:03,010 --> 00:39:04,490 consolidate. Cooks can solve a good year as a 764 00:39:04,490 --> 00:39:06,290 #2. You need like multiple other 765 00:39:06,290 --> 00:39:08,970 players to really start talking about target competition from a 766 00:39:09,050 --> 00:39:11,810 true alpha, is what I'm saying. It's not any worse this year 767 00:39:11,810 --> 00:39:14,130 than it was last year. There's not enough like Cooks. 768 00:39:14,250 --> 00:39:16,130 Yeah, it's good. I'm not saying Cooks is bad. 769 00:39:17,330 --> 00:39:20,370 It seems like with it, we will like what we can probably meet 770 00:39:20,370 --> 00:39:22,490 in the middle on it. I think we all like Amman, Ross 771 00:39:22,490 --> 00:39:24,690 and Brown, and we all like Garrett Wilson a lot, right? 772 00:39:26,410 --> 00:39:28,570 Yeah, we're doing Garrett, Pat. This is interesting. 773 00:39:28,570 --> 00:39:29,970 I didn't realize we were. This I like Garrett. 774 00:39:30,170 --> 00:39:31,930 I like Garrett. OK Yeah. 775 00:39:33,490 --> 00:39:38,130 Garrett and Amman Rah both feel like they're probably sort of 776 00:39:38,130 --> 00:39:42,010 mid second round values to me like and PPR. 777 00:39:42,010 --> 00:39:45,530 I would say Amman Rah feels pretty nice as like a. 778 00:39:46,020 --> 00:39:48,580 More like an early 2nd. You're like locked and loaded 779 00:39:48,580 --> 00:39:53,420 PPR weapon. But it's like, I'm not. 780 00:39:53,420 --> 00:39:56,700 I'm not sure like who else jumps out is like, oh, I have to take 781 00:39:56,700 --> 00:40:00,460 these guys instead. So I'm kind of more comfortable 782 00:40:00,460 --> 00:40:02,540 with them. But like to me, to me, like 783 00:40:02,540 --> 00:40:06,660 taking Garrett Wilson over a J Brown doesn't make a ton of 784 00:40:06,660 --> 00:40:09,500 sense. Like a J Brown is kind of like 785 00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:11,820 what we're hoping that they're different types of players. 786 00:40:11,820 --> 00:40:14,340 But it's like you're hoping Garrett Wilson can emerge is 787 00:40:14,340 --> 00:40:15,420 like a true alpha. It's like. 788 00:40:15,980 --> 00:40:19,140 Well, you already have a true alpha and a J Brown who's on an 789 00:40:19,140 --> 00:40:21,220 elite off. But Garrett Wilson can 790 00:40:21,220 --> 00:40:24,100 consolidate the target share in a way that a J Brown's not going 791 00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:25,940 to be able to. With Devonta Smith and Goddard 792 00:40:26,020 --> 00:40:29,340 Garrett, Wilson has far less target competition and I think a 793 00:40:29,340 --> 00:40:31,580 J Brown also is a downfield weapon. 794 00:40:31,580 --> 00:40:35,060 Like when you look at what he's going to be able to do with his 795 00:40:35,060 --> 00:40:37,860 targets. Also he's an after the catch 796 00:40:37,860 --> 00:40:40,340 superstar. So yeah, his target share is 797 00:40:40,340 --> 00:40:43,780 probably in ceiling outcomes is not as high as Garrett Wilson's, 798 00:40:43,780 --> 00:40:44,540 I'll give you that. But. 799 00:40:45,660 --> 00:40:48,100 I'm not gonna argue against Brown, but my case for Wilson 800 00:40:48,100 --> 00:40:50,140 would be if you're thinking about storylines that define the 801 00:40:50,140 --> 00:40:55,260 season, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady to the box type Fu season with 802 00:40:55,260 --> 00:40:58,460 The Jets and Garrett Wilson coming along as the number one 803 00:40:58,780 --> 00:41:01,340 is a storyline that I can go into December and look back and 804 00:41:01,340 --> 00:41:05,740 be like Garrett Wilson had the like the Devonte Adams breakout 805 00:41:05,740 --> 00:41:08,880 year or the. Jordy Nelson, breakout year or 806 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,600 all, you know these. Maybe Rogers is completely dust. 807 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,760 But like part of it for me is like, we know that the NFL is 808 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,240 chaotic. We know that there's storylines 809 00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:18,760 in 2023 that are going to define the season, that we're going to 810 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,680 be tough to predict. That's one for me. 811 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:26,760 That's like I can see a ceiling path that is like unprojectable 812 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,760 by what we've already seen in the in the past data for Garrett 813 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,600 Wilson. Sometimes we're wrong on those. 814 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,160 Absolutely. But I'm not like I I like to 815 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,190 take those swings. Yeah. 816 00:41:38,030 --> 00:41:40,630 I think the only other last thing to kind of put a bow on it 817 00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:43,670 of thinking through our structures and again maybe a 818 00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:47,830 feather in the Andrews cap is there is a chance based on like 819 00:41:47,830 --> 00:41:50,430 where the ADP is from the back here that you get funneled to 820 00:41:50,430 --> 00:41:54,110 both A0RB and a punt tight end build. 821 00:41:54,830 --> 00:41:57,510 And so that's something to kind of think through. 822 00:41:58,230 --> 00:42:01,670 If we're okay with that, because my guess is, if we review the 823 00:42:01,670 --> 00:42:05,430 board, that a lot of the sweet 0RB targets are also going to be 824 00:42:05,510 --> 00:42:08,190 where you're wanting to load up on all those cranking purple 825 00:42:08,670 --> 00:42:14,990 tight end targets as well. Yeah, I would. 826 00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:20,590 I would note that Lamar Jackson is on the 3/4 turn and I think 827 00:42:20,590 --> 00:42:24,150 it's a pretty interesting pick. Even if we don't go Andrews and 828 00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:27,980 we're kind of in a situation elite quarterback wise like we 829 00:42:27,980 --> 00:42:32,340 are at tight end where we're not going to get one of the top 830 00:42:32,340 --> 00:42:36,180 three at quarterback. If we don't take in Lamar 831 00:42:36,180 --> 00:42:40,740 Jackson then then Burrow goes at the end of the fourth fields and 832 00:42:40,740 --> 00:42:43,260 Herbert go kind of mid to late 5th. 833 00:42:43,260 --> 00:42:45,180 So maybe we could get a falling fields. 834 00:42:47,420 --> 00:42:50,980 I also like Herbert, but I think he sort of a he's not Lamar in 835 00:42:50,980 --> 00:42:53,500 terms of what up the upside he provides and then at that point 836 00:42:53,500 --> 00:42:56,780 you're down to like Beshawn Watson goes mid 8th. 837 00:42:56,780 --> 00:42:59,140 So we could pretty easily get him in the early 8th if we 838 00:42:59,140 --> 00:43:02,580 wanted to go that route, but you're kind of all ready to. 839 00:43:03,180 --> 00:43:06,700 What, what other as I think through like reverse engineering 840 00:43:06,700 --> 00:43:09,260 the draft and the structure to it to your guys point of being 841 00:43:09,260 --> 00:43:11,980 like OK, maybe guys like Garrett Wilson and stuff are slightly 842 00:43:12,020 --> 00:43:14,180 overvalued. I mean, if we truly are still 843 00:43:14,180 --> 00:43:17,860 getting these prices on guys like JSN and Addison, yeah. 844 00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:20,500 Might not exist later in draft season. 845 00:43:20,900 --> 00:43:24,580 I do wonder if that pushes us toward a non wide receiver pick. 846 00:43:24,900 --> 00:43:28,580 Around to being like we do have legitimate it's an 8-9 that we 847 00:43:28,580 --> 00:43:34,220 like. 7-8 and I and I think 7-8 looks really appealing. 910 less 848 00:43:34,220 --> 00:43:35,980 so. What I was just gonna say, and I 849 00:43:35,980 --> 00:43:37,940 think Pat was sort of doing it by going through the different 850 00:43:37,940 --> 00:43:40,820 plays is the the drafting landscape we're in. 851 00:43:40,820 --> 00:43:46,300 I would argue makes it possible to hit to pivot to an anchor. 852 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,880 We just talked through the tight end thing where like I would be 853 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,560 comfortable reaching at the 3-4 turn on our favorite tight end. 854 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,120 That's going a little bit later in the 4th and 5th like it pits. 855 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,440 It might be way too high for you guys, but more so at running 856 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,640 back for you, OK? You guys are talking through 857 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,440 QBs, but more so at running back. 858 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,000 I think there are options through the entire dead zone. 859 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,480 With the way it lays out this year, you have like. 860 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,960 I'm really comfortable. We talked about Gibbs or ETN as 861 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,880 potential options at 3-4. I'm really comfortable with JK 862 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,200 Dobbins. If somehow he were to fall to 863 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,160 5-6, he's going like in the earlier 5th. 864 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,160 DeAndre Swift is a six round pick right now that I'm really 865 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,040 willing to take some exposure to. 866 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,240 So that I think there are. And then you were Pat was 867 00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:26,440 talking through some quarterback plays. 868 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,320 I think there are ways you can play tight end as well. 869 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,960 So I think there are. I agree with you, Pete. 870 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,960 Where you're looking back at that 7-8 range, you're going to 871 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,800 man, if we're really going to want to take receivers there, we 872 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,880 might wind up taking eight straight receivers to start. 873 00:44:38,330 --> 00:44:41,490 But I do think there are ways to play the dead zone this year 874 00:44:41,490 --> 00:44:44,370 that in the past we we we basically wanted to be receiver 875 00:44:44,370 --> 00:44:47,290 only in four or five, six. But this year, I think there's 876 00:44:47,290 --> 00:44:49,490 ways to play every other position, four or five, six and 877 00:44:49,490 --> 00:44:53,690 throughout those rounds that I guess I don't want it to 878 00:44:53,730 --> 00:44:57,330 necessarily be the deciding factor in our round 1-2 picks 879 00:44:57,490 --> 00:44:59,850 because we don't know what we're going to like at 3-4 and five. 880 00:44:59,850 --> 00:45:03,890 Six is sort of the counter to that though is like what if I 881 00:45:03,890 --> 00:45:07,260 told you from the three, you know from the 11:00 we went 882 00:45:07,340 --> 00:45:17,020 Keenan third, Debo 4th, we went Deontay 5th, Mike Williams 6th 883 00:45:17,020 --> 00:45:22,540 or Brandon IU 6th, Jackson Smith and Jigba and Jordan Addison or 884 00:45:22,540 --> 00:45:25,100 something like that like or Quinton Johnston, right. 885 00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:30,300 Like that would be that's I'm very comfortable going wide 886 00:45:30,300 --> 00:45:35,540 receiver from round three through round eight like those, 887 00:45:36,020 --> 00:45:37,340 yeah. While there are potential 888 00:45:37,340 --> 00:45:40,420 detours throughout like the wide receivers that we're potentially 889 00:45:40,420 --> 00:45:43,140 looking at is 7/8. I think it's in particular that 890 00:45:43,140 --> 00:45:49,020 7-8 term that you're looking at. Dotson, JSN Jordan, Addison, 891 00:45:49,340 --> 00:45:50,580 yeah. Quinton Johnson. 892 00:45:50,580 --> 00:45:53,020 Like, holy shit. Like that's. 893 00:45:53,020 --> 00:45:56,200 Not to mention. There there's a more of a dead 894 00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:00,480 zone in a DP on FFPC then there is on Underdog because if you 895 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,360 look at these names, Montgomery Cook, James Connor Swift, Piers 896 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,760 Rashad White, they go so much closer to the Charbonne P Ryan A 897 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,480 J Dillon range on Underdog than they do here. 898 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,320 Like this is a meaningful 3 round gap between them where I 899 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,280 don't see a huge difference between some of these backs and 900 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,680 the backs going in the ninth round. 901 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,920 So like this is like the kind of the running back area I think I 902 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,200 would mostly want to be avoiding this round 6. 903 00:46:25,580 --> 00:46:30,060 Early six, Yeah, that's fair. I mean, other than like DeAndre 904 00:46:30,060 --> 00:46:32,940 Swift, I can make pretty good cases against. 905 00:46:33,060 --> 00:46:35,180 Everyone for all the names, Pat said. 906 00:46:35,420 --> 00:46:38,140 And looking at this board, the one name like Mike Williams at 907 00:46:38,180 --> 00:46:39,780 602 wasn't very compelling to me. 908 00:46:39,780 --> 00:46:41,740 Most of the six round I you maybe. 909 00:46:41,740 --> 00:46:44,340 That's pretty compelling to me. I tell you I'll take him in mid 910 00:46:44,380 --> 00:46:45,900 4th, I don't mind. That the other thing is this 911 00:46:45,900 --> 00:46:48,460 tier of wide receivers is so flat that if you take two guys 912 00:46:48,460 --> 00:46:51,180 from round seven and round six, you know what I mean? 913 00:46:51,220 --> 00:46:53,260 Like if you bump up around seven guy to. 914 00:46:53,500 --> 00:46:56,500 Six, so you can get both Jahan Dodson and Trailing Burks or 915 00:46:56,500 --> 00:46:57,380 whatever. Like I don't. 916 00:46:57,380 --> 00:47:00,300 That's not bad. Yeah. 917 00:47:00,300 --> 00:47:02,100 Also, I mean, I don't know. We could be looking at. 918 00:47:02,180 --> 00:47:04,260 I know you guys like God when we could look at like God when 919 00:47:04,260 --> 00:47:06,340 Deonta Terry Mclaurin could fall. 920 00:47:06,740 --> 00:47:09,300 Like I don't like that's pretty. I think we're gonna like our 921 00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:14,420 wide receivers 5678. Unless this is a weird room. 922 00:47:14,740 --> 00:47:17,500 I agree. So there's there's four wide 923 00:47:17,500 --> 00:47:18,820 receivers pretty easily right there. 924 00:47:19,300 --> 00:47:21,990 There are still some guys. Again like the DeAndre Swift 925 00:47:21,990 --> 00:47:25,430 where I think you can make some 2V twos and you wouldn't mind 926 00:47:25,430 --> 00:47:27,990 not picking one of those receivers the the the list of 927 00:47:27,990 --> 00:47:32,390 receivers you named was good. But like unless Keenan or Debo 928 00:47:32,390 --> 00:47:36,750 has a true elite ceiling, I don't think they were you know 929 00:47:36,750 --> 00:47:39,510 as comparable to the one, two turn guys as we like like to get 930 00:47:39,510 --> 00:47:43,310 that elite wide receiver. And I'm not saying we go, we go 931 00:47:43,310 --> 00:47:44,950 non wide receiver, non wide receiver. 932 00:47:45,070 --> 00:47:48,950 I'm saying we go 1 detour in these first two rounds because 933 00:47:49,710 --> 00:47:53,150 you know, we could easily rip off 7 wide receivers after that. 934 00:47:53,230 --> 00:47:56,110 Because if we were looking, if we like the wide receivers in 935 00:47:56,110 --> 00:47:59,110 the eighth round, I mean getting to the eighth round was 6 wide 936 00:47:59,110 --> 00:48:04,510 receivers we like and then two detours for either an anchor 937 00:48:04,510 --> 00:48:07,470 running back, a tight elite tight end or an elite 938 00:48:07,470 --> 00:48:09,990 quarterback like that, that sets up pretty well. 939 00:48:10,830 --> 00:48:12,670 But do we have a detour that makes? 940 00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:16,600 And that's a lot of reverse engineering to be. 941 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,360 We have to be pretty certain in our detour. 942 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,880 We talked through the entries and JT stuff and they're going a 943 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,720 lot later. You can pair them with like cup 944 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,640 and and tight reek in some draft slots. 945 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,880 Unless we want to go there with those guys, what detour are we 946 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,040 even making? I mean, I think. 947 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:34,320 I think what I see happening is like say you do the JT versus 948 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,320 Mark Andrews decision point. Like I do think if you go Mark 949 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,200 Andrews you're looking at a 0 RB build. 950 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,320 If you go JT, you're looking at a punt Tied in build most 951 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,350 likely. See, I I think there's a lot of 952 00:48:46,350 --> 00:48:49,270 options at running back and tight end. 3 rounds 3 through 6 953 00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:52,910 I actually I don't want to reach for those guys. 954 00:48:52,910 --> 00:48:55,710 If we have a chance to reach like 3 picks on Andrews, who I 955 00:48:55,710 --> 00:49:01,190 think is going to move up, then why would like we're That to me 956 00:49:01,190 --> 00:49:03,510 feels like the thing where we're like making a team out of 957 00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:05,750 players that will get a better prices later. 958 00:49:05,990 --> 00:49:09,070 Like I don't think that Pitts, Kitts. 959 00:49:09,350 --> 00:49:11,430 Is going to move up pits. Is going to move pitch. 960 00:49:11,430 --> 00:49:15,330 Will move up some, but he's but he's not in the. 961 00:49:15,610 --> 00:49:18,250 Where is he? We don't need to take, we don't 962 00:49:18,250 --> 00:49:19,770 need to take pits. That wasn't like sort of the 963 00:49:19,770 --> 00:49:22,570 this is going at the 4:12, so I liked the. 964 00:49:22,770 --> 00:49:25,010 The track we were on where this would be more of a punt, tight 965 00:49:25,010 --> 00:49:28,330 end Pete Pete mentioned earlier, I liked that idea. 966 00:49:28,330 --> 00:49:30,770 I think we could still get a running back like a Gibbs at the 967 00:49:30,770 --> 00:49:35,170 3-4 if that happens or a couple other options that we were 968 00:49:35,170 --> 00:49:38,210 looking at there. But I'm thinking like we could 969 00:49:38,210 --> 00:49:41,250 get, let's say we went in or let's say we sorry, let's say we 970 00:49:41,250 --> 00:49:45,000 went Taylor. We could be looking at like I 971 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,800 don't know, let's say digs falls just to us just to make things 972 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,720 simple, right, Digs and then Taylor. 973 00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:54,800 And then we could go wide receiver, wide receiver and then 974 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,920 we could get like a Herbert paired with Keenan or Fields if 975 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,720 he falls and there's our two detours. 976 00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:04,480 And then we go wide receiver through eight and then we come 977 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,600 back and circle and you know crank it purple through some of 978 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,440 the double digit rounds in addition to going running back. 979 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:13,920 The other thing that is different this year and we've 980 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,400 been talking about it on underdog too like looking at the 981 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,600 tight end options throughout the draft board. 982 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,960 Like I remember in previous years like I mean we were taking 983 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,120 some like true true like Jordan Aiken's level dust balls that 984 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,920 tight end like when you get squeezed I'd have a be like MM 985 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:29,920 get sick. He's going in 13. 986 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,680 Jelani Woods and Ferguson are going in 16. 987 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,080 Michael Mayer is going in 17. Dawson Knox and 18. 988 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,440 Taysom Hill and 32. I know that's the best ball 989 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,320 thing. Hunter Henry we all like is is 990 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,320 in the last round, going in the 20th. 991 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:46,280 Round so undrafted sometimes too like it is nice. 992 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,520 I think the the tight end options, there's going to be 993 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,600 tight end options throughout the whole draft. 994 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,240 I think that's true of like every position where things are 995 00:50:55,240 --> 00:50:59,360 a little bit more balanced. I think the Like Adp's got more 996 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,800 efficient. CEH goes off the board in the 997 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,800 15th round. I mean, the running back stuff 998 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:08,000 dries up really like the last five rounds are not pretty for 999 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,720 running backs. Whereas I can make cases for 1000 00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:13,240 tight ends in the last five. Rounds I I meant, yeah, that 1001 00:51:13,240 --> 00:51:14,600 that's fair. That's different than underdog. 1002 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,000 I just meant in the 2023 drafting environment that we're 1003 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,280 moving towards more efficient. And I do think it means that you 1004 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,200 can throw structure out the window a little bit more for 1005 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,360 player selections. I mean, I I I know that sounds 1006 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,720 kind of odd, but that that's like a broad take that I'm 1007 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,440 considering this, this ADP doesn't feel that different to 1008 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,520 me than older ADP. This isn't, this isn't underdog. 1009 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,160 Like if you're getting Jackson Smith and Jacob the seven eighth 1010 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,240 turn, like this is not, this is exploitable. 1011 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,880 Yeah, that's, Yeah. That's I agree with that. 1012 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,080 I I do have to to get going. We did why we were talking. 1013 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:55,480 The Austin Eckler pick did come in, so that was expected and now 1014 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,520 we'll see here. And I should also mention this 1015 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,360 is you know, a dynamic here. I recognize a few names in here, 1016 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,880 but we do have one of our ship chasers out of the 10 slot. 1017 00:52:03,870 --> 00:52:06,390 Slime Season is Ryan from the Discord. 1018 00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:10,030 So, you know, we might be able to to profile him a little bit 1019 00:52:10,030 --> 00:52:12,070 and he's gonna be able to profile us a little bit, so. 1020 00:52:12,310 --> 00:52:15,670 The one thing I'm sorry to cut you off cuz I made closing is 1021 00:52:15,670 --> 00:52:18,470 that it really it's Qb's Going higher path than my argument 1022 00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:20,710 would be is yes, I agree with you, the wide receivers are 1023 00:52:20,710 --> 00:52:23,710 still, but there's like better tight end profiles later. 1024 00:52:23,710 --> 00:52:25,990 There's better running back profiles later as well and it's 1025 00:52:26,070 --> 00:52:28,670 all because the Qb's are there's seven Qb's going the 1st 5 1026 00:52:28,670 --> 00:52:30,690 rounds. I don't like the late running 1027 00:52:30,690 --> 00:52:33,050 back profiles that much. I mean there's certainly targets 1028 00:52:33,050 --> 00:52:37,210 but I guess I would I think a hero running back start was 1029 00:52:37,210 --> 00:52:40,690 probably going to work better for us in this ADP environment 1030 00:52:40,690 --> 00:52:45,610 then sure then not right if we're if we're only if we're 1031 00:52:45,610 --> 00:52:48,170 punting one of tight end or running back. 1032 00:52:48,170 --> 00:52:51,210 I think the full punt of tight end probably works better, even 1033 00:52:51,210 --> 00:52:55,770 though I like Andrews more than I like Taylor in tight end. 1034 00:52:55,770 --> 00:52:58,790 Premium I think, but I but I still think Taylor might help us 1035 00:52:58,790 --> 00:53:00,990 more. I I think cranking Purple might 1036 00:53:01,110 --> 00:53:03,550 not. This might be the most viable 1037 00:53:03,550 --> 00:53:07,630 it's ever been in the years we played on FFPC. 1038 00:53:07,950 --> 00:53:10,750 Like full stop. Like the fact that you could 1039 00:53:10,750 --> 00:53:14,110 literally go around 15 through 20 and take five tight ends that 1040 00:53:14,150 --> 00:53:17,630 all have like a glimmer of hope, either projectable role and 1041 00:53:17,630 --> 00:53:19,830 upside profile correlation with your quarterback. 1042 00:53:20,110 --> 00:53:23,950 Like I I do think we're we're going to have some really nice 1043 00:53:23,950 --> 00:53:27,520 punt tied in builds we like. Yeah. 1044 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,640 And also I think maybe those tight ends might as a group move 1045 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:36,760 up and it might become more difficult to crank purple you 1046 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,200 know like Dawson Knox for example. 1047 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,200 Like what if we do reports that like no Dawson Knox is still 1048 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,920 like playing like like he did last year basically. 1049 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,520 It's just that they're also sometimes mixing in this rookie 1050 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,240 I feel like we're you should be making round penny premium. 1051 00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:52,280 Every, every, like exploitable opportunity you think is out 1052 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,240 there you think is gonna disappear immediately. 1053 00:53:54,850 --> 00:53:56,770 Like broadly you're like, oh, this is going away, this is 1054 00:53:56,770 --> 00:53:58,690 going away. Well, it's. 1055 00:53:59,810 --> 00:54:03,570 I mean, shouldn't you shouldn't you assume that that that a big 1056 00:54:03,570 --> 00:54:06,090 edge isn't gonna just sit there for you forever and you should 1057 00:54:06,090 --> 00:54:06,970 take advantage of them now? Maybe. 1058 00:54:08,490 --> 00:54:10,850 Yeah, but like, I don't know, hasn't, haven't you guys all 1059 00:54:10,850 --> 00:54:14,210 been talking about like oh JSN is so cheap on DraftKings and 1060 00:54:14,210 --> 00:54:18,250 like that hasn't changed, right? Like the the I never said JSN 1061 00:54:18,250 --> 00:54:19,530 will get more expensive on DraftKings. 1062 00:54:19,650 --> 00:54:22,370 I don't don't forward. No, I'm just saying it is. 1063 00:54:22,370 --> 00:54:25,870 It is hard to know. And all we can do is really use 1064 00:54:25,870 --> 00:54:28,590 like the information that we have now and there's so few main 1065 00:54:28,590 --> 00:54:30,870 events that have even been completed that it is kind of 1066 00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:33,230 hard to know. But let's let's power this down. 1067 00:54:33,230 --> 00:54:36,070 We will, we will next time we touch base, we'll probably be 1068 00:54:36,070 --> 00:54:39,870 when we're on the 3/4 turn and we will kind of then recap these 1069 00:54:39,910 --> 00:54:44,230 decisions we did end up making here at the 1-2 turn. 1070 00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:46,510 If you guys are listening to the audio version, you want to see 1071 00:54:46,510 --> 00:54:48,950 the video of this with the screen share and get earlier 1072 00:54:48,950 --> 00:54:51,790 access to these. You become a YouTube member and 1073 00:54:51,790 --> 00:54:55,550 also hop in the Discord. But yeah, this is the mini Sold 1074 00:54:55,550 --> 00:54:56,870 series. We're off to the race as we call 1075 00:54:56,870 --> 00:54:59,590 the mini sold series of. This one's clocking it at almost 1076 00:54:59,590 --> 00:55:03,510 55 minutes, which is a little bit of a DP chasing rubbing off 1077 00:55:03,510 --> 00:55:08,430 on us I guess. But it feels great to be back 1078 00:55:08,430 --> 00:55:09,670 guys. We will let you know how this 1079 00:55:09,950 --> 00:55:11,470 this team materializes here soon. 1080 00:55:11,470 --> 00:55:13,110 We'll catch you at the next bit.