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We got going tonight. Eric fine for joining us.
Mike Leone. Joining us.
We got Pat, we got Gretch. We are in the throes of draft
season. Are you guys doing tonight?
Yeah, definitely pumped. I'm surviving a tornado.
There's tornadoes all around st. Louis, but we don't, we don't
back down to storms when ship chasing.
You know, Underdog drafts in late but last year, was, was
pretty crazy after one of these shows.
And so I'm not letting a tornado get in the way of us.
Breaking Underdog for the second year in a row.
That's right. Yeah, I mean, you're that
tornado. We're excited for the show
because we are, I'll be posting our schedule on Twitter here
soon, but we're going to be transitioning.
Into full-on, you know, kind of manage league mode next week.
We're not Sean Siegel on for kind of a master plan show for
ffp see maybe get some previews of a 0, RB targets.
And then from there we're going to be running doubles with Main
Event drafts until the start of the season.
So I wanted to make sure we got one more.
Proper Underdog show under our belts here and kind of just
check our pulse here on the underdog and best ball landscape
before we get going. So I don't know.
I guess we can kind of open it up wherever have you guys
noticed like any Interesting larger metas going on in the
best ball drafting landscape. You know, last year, obviously
was the wide receiver Avalanche. You still get that in some
rooms, but I don't know if I've noticed, like, any striking
trends that have, like, overwhelmed me at times.
Have you guys noticed anything? Well, Leone, you guys have had
Jack Miller said something stuff on social run regarding the
trends of wide receivers are going even earlier than last
year, quarterbacks going earlier, which kind of surprised
me because it's felt like kind of normal, I guess.
But maybe that's because I'm broken.
Yeah, I mean the wide receivers have been going earlier,
especially like respected to some of the other so I mean I've
been going earlier everywhere but Underdog they go earlier
than they do on DraftKings which doesn't make, you know, any
sense whatsoever. Like something's Auda, I don't
want to Underdogs. Definitely screwy compared to
Draft Kings. Yeah, so I think the underdog
drafters likely a little bit sharper than the DraftKings
drafters. But it is the exact opposite
because I mean Draft Kings full PPR and with the 100-yard
bonuses, you would want wide receivers earlier.
I think the quarterback stuffs interesting, because if you
think about like an FF PC Main Event, you know, some of these
quarterbacks aren't going that much earlier than they would in
a single quarterback league but this Scarcity is really a lot
different because your roster and multiple quarterback.
So I kind of think the top to your quarterbacks are actually
still kind of a bargain and then the mid-tier quarterbacks start
to get pushed up maybe a little bit too much, but at the end of
quarterbacks are basically free and available that you can get
guys to don't have any risk of losing their job.
Yeah. Like golf or guy who has Summers
losing his job like Tannehill, but I think the risk is pretty
low and he actually has a history of being a decent
fantasy score. And it's free.
So, you know, that's been kind of an interesting thing for
marginal, think through yeah, barbell.
The quarterback position, the dogs.
Actually not might actually not my dogs barking.
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the stream where someone else's. Dogs are our decorating artist.
Jeff. Yeah Murphy.
There you go. What about what about you Eric
any kind of interesting trends that you've noticed over the
past few weeks? Yeah the quarterback thing was
what I was going to say Exactly what Mike said so I won't like
hammer it home too much but like the but you said it at the end,
the barbell thing with quarterback.
I think is like we're pushing up what we believe to be slightly
better bets. That's don't have the actual
ceiling in the. Like I don't even hate these
guys, like mixing them into your portfolio.
The to us and the Derek Cars and the Kirk cousins and stuff.
Like I don't want to have necessarily zero.
I might have 60 of some of those guys but they just get kind of
artificially pushed. Because their median projection
is a little bit better when Mac Jones, Daniel Jones.
Ryan Tannehill like everybody hates Carson Wentz.
I get it. But like, you know, Carson Wentz
versus Kirk Cousins is like really not.
It's not a seven, round difference, you know, it's a
difference, reach. The tell Carson, Wentz, part of
the show already like some later, okay, we'll talk about
Jarvis, Landry, later. Let me get rid of these When
you're talking about Julio and Jarvis Landry and all these
goddamn old blue marlin Mac like what are we doing here then?
Okay, two things, one where Matt Ryan goes like, four rounds
ahead of cars and wines. Are, it's absolutely right
because like, what is the meaningful difference between
those two and secondly? Today Ben and I did our NFC
South projections podcast and Ben had a higher projection on
Julio Jones than me. And I feel like the room needed
to know that. Wow, that is static.
But hey, this is a Julio Jones friendly podcast.
The highest do so well with the greatest receivers of all time,
I'll own that. I don't have that issue yet that
you have some respect for a great beyond.
You know, these guys last year you shave me for having a higher
projection on like Marvin Jones or something else?
Like okay this was a mistake in my projections, I didn't week
something I'm not going to be higher on barbiturates this
year. I'm like I don't like, yeah, I'm
totally content with having who are they?
Um, but back to the quarterback thing.
One thing I've noticed, Noticed too.
Is it if it happens a lot too, when with the different
structures, right? We talked about getting funneled
into the same players because of a construction you're doing,
whereas, like I noticed too, I probably don't have as many
combos of elite quarterback with a Rogers, a car.
A cousins. Could you naturally are excited
to push it when you get that Elite QB and then wait to get
them. So, that's something I've been
thinking about to and same with like, on the flip side.
Like if I do burr punt, you know, tied in, it's a lot easier
to be like, alright, God, When sand Ritter or whatever.
As opposed to like, oh, maybe it is a car and then three
quarterback build to. So, that's something I've been
thinking about I've just because I don't think I'm alone.
Like I feel like when I feel those things it's probably
reflective of what a lot of people are doing and just being
willing to mix and match those combos more.
You guys are segments a lot of sense other than the fact that
you keep mentioning the guy that every team he plays for they
hate him and Sam Howell is going to be starting over by like
midseason when they I'm the one Washington decides.
They hate him too. So take Sam how the draft if you
guys skip like a car or cousins. Let's say you have hurts.
Okay then you skip the car cousins to it's here and you go
all the way and you grab, you know, I don't know.
Let's say Carson Wentz and that's your next quarterback.
Are you grabbing a third or are you done it to who was the first
to greedy? Who is not from.
Sorry, the first is like hurts. It's not Mahomes.
It's like her legs, maybe, maybe Kyler DAC.
I like to push it a little bit more.
I am curious, what you guys think about this, though?
I think when it's what I would perceive to be a truly Elite
ceiling guy as the qb1, like people will do it, like in it
and I guess tears is kind of a way to look at it but people
will do it. Like I drafted him in the 10th
round so it's okay to do to it's like but if If it's Derek Carr
like no offense, Derek Carr, but like he can't be the qb1 right?
Jalen hurts. Theoretically could be, you
know, the second year Lamar Jackson or whatever.
So, I kind of try to do it from like an archetype perspective.
As opposed to like a round type of thing, like hurts, Russ,
Lance those guys like, I'm pretty much just doing two
quarterbacks, even if the second one is went.
But then when you start to get into the, maybe not, so super
high upside guys car cousins too. the that range is when I
start to think about the third one, also did this article about
three quarterbacks and, you know, the simulations basically
showing that that would be beneficial to have that third
even if you did have like a Mahomes all, like the roster
construction Explorer stuff, like going back to like 2015
looking at Fan ball and stuff, like, all of it is like
basically, you're better off going to quarterbacks put like
how much like basically everyone who was Hardcore about Underdog
last year was going to quarterbacks basically like a
lot of people who've been like sharp best ballplayers of the
years have preferred to quarterbacks.
Like I'm not have, we just all played this game slightly wrong
for a while but like it's not that big a deal but you know, I
like it's possible three quarterbacks actually better.
If you're getting one essential for free.
I mean I definitely think it changes around 18 where You
know, a couple years ago, we could get like starting wide
receivers and Route 18 and now we can't.
And so that combination of the odds of that pic working out
with, you know, a legit starting, quarterback being
around 18, add up. I do sort of wonder if like the
same stuff that you mentioned just like isn't set up like
super crackly and it's over and fighting the qb3 stuff.
Just because as you mentioned that the evidence has been so
Stark in favor of two quarterbacks and sort of passes,
the sniff test to where like it's very unlikely.
Chloe you're going to quarterbacks that get hurt.
I mean usually both your quarterbacks or making it
through an entire season whereas the other positions can get
cannibalized so much by injuries and what out that it is super
important to just even if it's like low probability, Dart
throws to have a guy at the back end there.
I do think if you're taking too big to your quarterbacks or
risk, your quarterbacks, and you probably should take a third
like the range at Eric mentioned, and that's where
people maybe are taking to when they shouldn't take too.
But if I'm taking the home, You're really unlikely to take a
third quarterback unless it's two guys that are Mega late and
maybe my stacks work out with both of them.
Yeah. If it doesn't work and you get
right? Like, you get backed into say it
is a draft where all those other guys.
We talked about go and you're like there's not even a starting
quarterback back here. It's like if you want to take
true Biscay and Ritter Archer Biscay and Mariota or you know
something like that to tack on. I think that that's okay.
But I think that the Sims thing is, is really good and I love
that this These people are like posting some of this stuff, but
without seeing what's kind of pumping into it, it's hard to
really analyze. You know, what, it's spitting
out right? Like, is it like if there's no
Assumption of lot of the things that play into best ball from
like, what wins? Yeah.
Like three quarterbacks is natural.
It's a high scoring position. You're going to gain points by
having more of that position. If all things go according to
plan in your simulation, right? But the problem with that is
that in an NFL season, it's pure and utter Chaos, right?
It's binary guy gets hurt or guy doesn't get hurt offenses.
Good. Our offensive right?
The Jaguars were terrible last year, even though some of the
guys stayed healthy, it's all binary.
So it's really hard to to do that.
I kind of think about it. Like, when I get to week 17, do
I want to have, you know, Marcus Mariota tossed onto my Josh
Allen team or do I want that extra shot lottery?
Ticket, on, Richard Pini, amun-ra, Etc, and I think that
one's pretty clear to me that the one thing that Made the most
intuitive sense for me or bringing me around to wanting to
do more. Three quarterback, builds was
this idea of having a unique stack in the week 17 finals,
where we know there's this natural selection bias to the
teams that advanced if Joe borough has this massive week,
16, everyone's going to show up in week 17 with Joe burrow.
And so now you're if you're into quarterback bills with Joe
Borough, you're probably going to also have some overlapping if
you have that third unique stack, where you have a chance
to kind of hit a high range outcome and that's We can debate
it can some of these really late quarterbacks actually give you
the high range outcome. But that's the part that's
interesting to me and I have found myself like I was looking
at some of my rosters like I had a trail ants were then I did
Zach Wilson and whence I'm sorry for bringing up Carson Wentz
again but that idea of like getting the elite guy but then
really punting your last two after that with hopes of getting
a unique stack Lance is also probably like on the border a
little bit to, you know, how are you how But like, looking at the
past point about, you know, is everyone drafting two,
quarterbacks the data last year, there were 83 thousand teams,
that drafted two, quarterbacks and 66,000 that drafted three.
So we talked about like, 65 35 or something like it's it wasn't
that it's not like no one was drafting three, quarterbacks and
the race is really interested, really about hurting.
Yeah. So, yeah, I'd almost Rhett.
I do think the uniqueness And the tournaments is the most
interesting aspect of it, but I don't have that.
Are you trying to get like are you hoping that lets say you
have like a rust stack and rust, basically has two bad weeks and
15 and 16 and then you kind of sneak Russ in.
Yeah. That yeah, that feels more like
how you actually win, like, you get rust.
Absolutely exploding week 17 rather than having like Zach
Wilson, have the super heavy stack Wilson game blow up in
week 17. So, like Peter was pointing out
in My 1ff PC team that made it to the finals last year.
I had kind of accidentally Auto, drafted Ben Roethlisberger as a
third quarterback and he he was the reason I advanced in round
one on a deck team and then I had a pretty unique deck team in
the final. I so, it did work out, sort of
as awesome ahead outlined in his article.
I'd almost rather take still take two quarterbacks but just
get combinations of, maybe putting a lot of equity in
quarterback, or I've almost have to Elite quarterbacks, and they
could I guess trade-off weeks in the playoffs of God been doing
that a lot, and I actually an article coming out next week
that argues that you should do that.
So I love this because I think we talked about this on Monday
right where we get into pockets of the draft this year.
We're like last year I think especially with how crazy
everything got with wide receivers and such that you
would get into those fifth sixth, seventh eighth rounds and
you couldn't, if you had taken Josh Alla Norma homes or
whatever, you couldn't afford To then take whatever, you know,
Trey Lance Tom Brady or whatever this year I don't feel that way
you get into those six seven eight, through 10th or 11th
rounds and it's the market is a lot more efficient and I feel, I
don't feel like a lot of the times, there's the top 10 guys
on the in the queue are like, I don't know, I don't really, you
know, it's the Damien Harris. Is it smile Sanders?
It's Russell gauge, its you know, it's those guys and like I
don't feel pressured into taking them.
Because they're the best pic. And so even though I took Jalen
hurts in the sixth round, you come back around to the 7th and
Russ is there, you know, and maybe I have Sutton or Judy or
maybe I just want to set up another stack and doing that.
I feel I feel like that's kind of the way as opposed to doing
the three quarterback thing. Give me two of the guys that can
really just like this season on fire as opposed to the sorry
bent, the wences and the coughs and you know and those guys the
cars watch, could I ask you some As sort of an outsider because I
obviously am not dropping. Hundreds of Underdog teams that
data we are just showing there's not like massive differences in
the advanced rates and stuff. And so the question I'm going to
ask basically, is how comfortable are you with the
error bars in basically a given year over multiple years that
like, because this is obviously a very common way to look at
this, but that we could split this a lot of different ways.
One of the most interesting piece of analysis, I saw this
year was when Hayden, I was looking at the different types
of players that 0r b drafts last year took versus robust RP
drafts. We're like the young receivers
were all on the 0r B Teams. The vet receivers were all on
that robust are, but it was like, very clear that certain
types of drafters were influencing the wind rates in a
way that might not even be about the structure.
It might be about the type of person that is doing that
structure and the way that that person drafts, it could have
everything to do with the fact that they were willing to drop
Young. Receivers.
I mean not entirely but there are error bars on this type of
thing. How much does it have to do with
the fact that a lot of these three key builds are throwing in
a niche, true Biscay and a Desmond Ritter and two of the
three QBs our trash, right? Like how much of it has to do
with those little splits within the data?
I think it might have to do with again like I said top.
So I think Elite quarterbacks are undervalued relative to some
of the mid-tier quarterbacks in terms of where they're going and
teams with Elite quarterback, some more likely to only take
two quarterbacks. So if you're saying the elite
quarterback is a better pick at cost and the mid-tier
quarterback an elite quarterback.
You know that those teams should have a higher Advance rate just
like right off the bat so I think there was part of that and
you're right that margins are thin but But don't you dare take
away my systemic edges, bad. My 1.4 percent increase in
advance rate till the day that I die.
This was this was a, this was, I blasted me in the Church of
Leone. I apologize.
I won't, I won't ask the question like that again.
This is the, this is a fan ball rates from 2015 to 2019 because
the last two years people have talked about, this, can you zoom
a bit more Pat? Yeah.
There's been. So this is this is 2020 2021 and
a leaky quarterback atp's been super efficient of the last two
years to quarterback is crushed, but even if you go back before
that, And before best ball was like, super popular to
quarterback was still, it still had a positive one rate, three,
quarterbacks, like the below still had higher than expected
top. Two percent I'll teams.
So it does feel like, you know, that's a big, that's pretty big
sample. Yeah. 158,000 plus teams.
So I don't know, it just feel like we have this kind of these
really long, historic results, that show two, quarterbacks
probably better. But then I also know from like,
Doing shows with you guys last year.
That, you know, I would float like taking a third quarter back
when we were like, when we had Trail ants and and, you know, I
would get shamed. So that's probably should not
have gotten shamed. Yeah, hindsight we had one
quarterback at that point. The Price is Right little
yodeler going off the cliff. Take a backup quarterback, as
you're qb1 in the seventh round. That generally means it didn't
go. Well, yes, you should have taken
the third. Dipshit actually should have not
gotten tickets. Second one, you showed the 0 RB
and robust are be dichotomy. Is that the drafters that are
willing to go to QB? I would bet are better at
drafting the rest of their teeth.
Yeah. Probably right.
I love that new. This is just like, we ate an
apple sauce. Sizes bigger.
The like there's your RV thing is like, we're like one percent
of people drafting 0rp teams. This is, you know, 60% of people
are drafted into quarterback team.
So I don't know if that's the case here.
The other thing about it, that's like the draft with multiple
columns on, take three. Thank you, B.
So don't sit like the level. And that's, that's kind of what
I'm saying. Like, what if like, what if
there was a different contingent of people?
Drafting three, quarterback teams, those themes that have
different textures like maybe that would, maybe it's still
Optimal or even something we should do, but it does make me
like worry a little bit about what the data is telling us.
This is to some extent. Not totally.
Do you know how many donkeys comprise 80 thousand teams
drafting two quarterbacks? Did you tell the idiot method
Trail and just in fields last? Yeah, that's true.
I'm pretty drunk, but yeah, we we brought down the two
quarterbacks you talking about. I don't think that's even
debatable to Mike's point. Like I was literally a part of
the reason why the by that I fucked up the sample because all
my two quarterbacks, he's were shit.
They all had tray, lanes and Justin fields on them and Trevor
Lawrence. And yeah, Trevor Lawrence Zach
Wilson bunch of Scrubs, Daniel Jones.
Like it's go. There's that Erickson eyes team
that showed up in the finals, had fucking DAC.
And Mac Joe, Donít like hey, we didn't even used a queen whose
out don't score in the final round.
Yeah. It was it was bizarre.
I mean the other thing too I was going to say and I don't know if
you guys are feeling this but man like in these Underdog
drafts after round 14, it's a fucking Wasteland.
Like if I'm not picking a quarterback to round out, you
know that Elijah more double stack was Zach Wilson or you
know Lions double stack with Jared Goff or whatever like a
large on Datsun. Yeah.
Carson Wentz would John Dodson you know but it that's The other
thing about it into and you can quibble with, you know, finding
the break out there, but I almost still feel comfortable
about like banking the quarterback break out in that
range. At least we know they're going
to be on the field. Let's starting those games.
So I have warmed up to the QE2 and qe3 there which Mac Jones as
well. I want to talk about your team
last year. How many points did Mike Jones
score in the final for you? But not for 2020 or something
like that. He threw like four touchdowns
that the pictures of really good word on a million plus That
makes me feel more comfortable with the 2qb think was Mac Jones
wasn't like, particularly great last year.
Doc wasn't necessarily great but one of the things that I found
so fascinating about your guy's team roster, was how well the
running backs fit together. Your team was like, I've has
been doing freaking laps around my head off season from that got
six last year because you guys went full 0.
RB you first run it backwards Rahim most already basically
didn't play, but you could argue that if you would have went 3qb,
you might not want, might not have taken one more of those
running backs that wound up being a really good combination.
Ation and you're running back scoring from the late rounds in
conjunction with the elite receivers that you guys had is
what made this team. So interesting a couple of good
tight ends but really like you had the loaded up early
receivers they weren't amazing. Davante.
Adams was good Keenan, Allen was.
Good Jamar, Chase was an obvious hit.
You had to have some, but you're running backs, Tony, Michelle
and Penny were great late Madison, had the big moments
James Conner, good all throughout the year.
Tony Parker House, flashes as well, like your running backs
came together so well for a late round running back.
And you maybe don't go six running back.
If you go 3qb it's kind of a pretty good representation of
that idea that like you do want to take that extra skill
position players, because you had the most hurt injury and
your five running backs came together really.
Well, the other thing you could probably counter.
So nice that we took so noted in the 80s around.
So we everything though, in this goes in this goes back to
everything with Advanced rates and small sample sizes, is an
Eric, correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe there was a
quarterback separator. In this week. 17 no bro bro.
Scored upper 20s. Maybe something like that's a
thing. So, if Mac Jones is getting you
through some, some weeks, it's because you just need a floor QV
sometimes, if you have enough, I'm also saying that, if there
was the Cuyler, the Josh Allen, 40 Burger, you might have needed
to show up with him. We're doing here and pure,
because our strengths were not tied in and quarterback in this
with a low scoring quarterback and tight end week.
And we Inked the two highest scores in Penny and Chase.
And it just goes to show how, you know, we still showed up in
the finals. We had a good team in that
regard, but getting in the top. 10 was because we faded the QB
and tight end, big weeks to separate.
Also, I will never forgive both Kyle pits and Michael Gallop for
getting hurt because. Yeah, they helped.
It's like catches a 50, yard pass and gets hurt.
And the second quarter or whatever.
And then Michael Gallup catches a touchdown, and tore his ACL on
that on that play. So, I, we weren't gonna To catch
Liam but it was like so triggering because our we
basically hit the hit the stone, cold nuts.
Yeah. But yeah.
So that's the one thing. It that line of does just prove
how powerful like structure and uniqueness is I think and then
it also can go to show that how much variance there is.
It is where the soft spots are if you get the core because you
can just make the opposite argument of like oh you want
that Elite QB because he has that Elite ceiling.
Like that's why I like Elite tight ends too but then you have
the the Delete, I did week in week, 17, and older obviously
showed up with Mark. Andrews, didn't didn't place?
You're absolutely right. That limb shows that.
And I mean this in the most complimentary way possible,
because that team wasn't even that good.
It wasn't you. That's what I told him.
All that somebody that yesterday, like we got a thin,
this huge tournament. And like, if you look at that
team, tell me who was like a smash you had Chase but you
didn't have cup. You didn't have Depot, you
didn't have. I mean, there's sodden and
Taylor didn't have Mr. Cameron. No Taylor.
Yeah, I'm evil was a good head. I mean, you know how much it's a
totally different contests now because it's gotten so big, but
the year her xiguan his team was like, like, like if you looked
at it even in retrospect you would have mocked the team.
Yeah. Like like like Yoda mocking
mercilessly. Like the guys like to by Hilton
and like some of the guys on there, but, you know, it was
just a good structure. And then you got lucky with the
right performances at the right time.
A lot of it really is how all the performances fit together, I
mean, but I do think that's to your very original question,
Pete, I think that's the thing. Like, we can talk about some of
these little to quarterback, three quarterback, right?
To tight end three tight ends. 0r B, Etc.
But the The fact that like we're still, I think the entire Market
is playing in this a little bit like our traditional season
long. And it's like, we come in with
that perspective and like, I don't have it.
I sure as shit, don't have it solved and, and like, really,
how different these best ball tournaments are.
But I don't think we're appreciating, just how different
this format is from. Like a man aged sees like, in
managed from drafters or Ms. Yeah, we're just trying to score
the most points. I think it's completely Lee
different. I mean it is completely
different. What on the quarterback thing to
it's about Eric's point about like in some ways that's small
potatoes like I just much rather take a even if it's a super low
probability lottery ticket at one of those guys really
mattering and being a Difference Maker because you know, you're
either going to have the elite quarterback that you need to
have in week 17 or it's going to be a situation like, you guys
had where it just didn't really matter as long as you had a
quarterback who was playing. So like, in all those scenarios
Was a third late-round quarterback is like very
unlikely to shift the needle a lot, I guess we're would matter.
Most is like helping your team, get there in the first place
like happen with my ffp, see Team where I survived the week
but I just rather take the lottery ticket because the other
thing is the lottery ticket. Can also help you get there.
It's lower probability that they help you get there.
But the only reason Pete and I got there was because we took
Sony, Sony was an absolute smash for us.
When we Needed them, particularly with that structure
and he helped us get there. So like that's kind of the data
thing. The data might have said, hey,
you guys should probably dropped a third quarterback when it's
deck and Mac. That's not a very good
combination. So, you know, let's add on that
quarterback. If we had done that, this team,
this team wouldn't have gone anywhere as opposed to taking
Sony and it would, you know, that's we're and pure as hell.
But that's what you mean. You know, that's kind of what
you need. This is what kinda we talk
about. Comparing a best ball season two
like a DFS slate. Right?
And how it's like, That we get and we can look at data for DFS
stuff and you all we like all of the data gets us to like
directionally accurate builds and now we stretch out that
feedback loop for best ball, and I'm not saying people are wrong
to do, you know, our 2592 s or whatever, kind of the comfy
builds are because we know that's like, directionally
accurate, but it still does feel like that same gpp mindset in
the same way, you look at the Top Line UPS, you're like, how
did you get on that play? How did you think?
Ink to play two tight ends. How did you think to Onslaught
this team in this contest and wondering?
Like I keep coming back to uniqueness as like something.
I really want to think about, you mentioned the Sony Michelle
you kind of get the double whammy in that Sony.
Michelle wasn't drafted in every draft and he didn't perform well
enough early in the season to help Advance a lot of Sony,
Michelle teams a counter to my life.
Quarterback argument would be like even if you get that third
quarter back through and helps you get a unique snack he still
likely drafted and close to 100% of Just like the gulf, the wind
says it cetera. The thing that was, that was a
great point. The thing that made Michelle, so
such a good hammer for you guys and Penny was that you also had
Madison Connor Pollard earlier, who did, you know, Madison had
multiple starts with cookout that we're really good.
Connor was so you had it paired together where other running
backs got you there and then they could take it from there
and those other running backs weren't necessarily performing.
I don't know how good Connor was late but Madison wasn't
performing, you know later. Or you know whoever he helped
get there, maybe it doesn't like show your honor was her reason
of the yeah I'm nervous hurt Lee kind of a certain season.
Yeah. So you guys those that's what it
was is these layers where like you said most Michelle teams
didn't get there but you had Michelle paired with guys who
got you there and which is which is the structure right?
Yeah that's how you get. There is like a 0r B team needs
to bike. You need to run pure again like
we did but the only way to get that layering is through that.
Rock. Sure.
You can like you draft a robust team.
There is no such thing as the layering.
Those guys are your guys, everything the layering.
But nothing else is happening, right?
Nothing's happening. You don't have the five
receivers in the first six rounds.
You don't have the receiver points.
Really putting that points are covered.
Yeah, yeah, you did. But you do have a lot of other
roster spots for other positions to get like just weird guys
through ideally what you're trying to do, if you know II,
guess you're not. Yeah, I guess I was thinking
more like her. A fragile no issues with a
fragile, are like you better not?
Well, it is because what you really want to do is you want.
If you do go the anchor, our beer out, you want to do the
hurt sick, where you wake up with Chimera scoring 50 plus
points? And then you're also mixing in
the guys who were super unique that weren't doing anything and
they're, you know, your you want to get the Camaro with the Sony
Michelle. That's probably the kind of
thing. It's going to take to win this
year. But either way, man, he had
Handler right in that in his winning team, which is like kind
of the opposite of the Sony Michelle.
Like, the late guy people, a lot of people didn't have right,
it's separator, but it hardly to fit, into your 2490 and two, he
got him there. Yeah, him we got him.
Yeah. So they do funny.
He was the only team with Chimera in the fire.
Literally, the only team of chimera Wakes up Christmas day.
That was the Christmas Day Chimera six touchdown game.
But basically, for the rest of this place started, I mean, that
guide me to talk 20 finish in the get.
Those receiver. That was, I believe, I said, I
said it's only been two years. Who are these players?
Yeah. Who's John Brown?
Yeah, John Brown's, not even in the week ending, this is This is
like winning a medal at the first Olympics.
It doesn't even count. Yeah, that was like, jump girls
last two hundred thousand dollars does spent.
It suspect was also robbed the Andersons last game and Jamie
Anderson 12. People a million dollars last
year on Direct case and lost me Bowser.
And most you a lot of face bad 11-week the guy who won the
million. Watch that I think you had like
a three-point Robbie and her singing this exact.
Yes. Oh, that's, that's hilarious.
Because you've said that before and I've never body does that to
learn how that was possible. I'll say it till the day that I
die, because it's true. I mean what piggybacking on that
thing about just everything after round 14, feeling like a
wasteland. YouTube user makes an excellent
point here where it's like I've been completely if I'm not going
quarterback I'd be Basically been completely avoiding anyone
with an ADP 16th rating, like, sorry, Gus, Edward.
Sorry James Robinson like I'm going deep down because it's
such a waste land. Those guys feel so low
probability, you know, likeliness to hit relative to
the other guys going outside of who's getting drafted in every
draft. Like I'm just completely
avoiding that zone. Yeah.
Along those lines. The guys that you should be
taking that would ruin everyone's fantasy season and
really piss. A lot of people off our tray
sermon and Zack Moss. Yeah.
And Ty Montgomery that's bacon. We've drawn the line, it's half
Ties on the other side, you nothing here.
The drum beat Nope, that's the only one, it's even time
Montgomery's like come on man. He's like 97 years old, you
drafted 60% of Janie white and a half PPR League congratulations
Colonel Patterson like an hour ago.
I remember him from last year. It's is my timeline coming, he
scores his many points is quite a real Patterson.
This last year, I will issue a public apology to you.
Well, we're trying to win some money.
Here it is side. Ports, run towards Illustrated
fan, says, strong seemed like he would take over the role of
third past, third down passing back.
Not if Montgomery has anything to say about the new free agent
was, Only running with the first offense group in would be the
recipient of a number of Red Zone screens.
Then grabs. Play those bongos.
What is going on in New England? That's a great question.
Great question. Can't talk about Carson Wentz.
But God, forbid, Million dollars isn't a lot of
money. What are you talking about more
than he's ever made? You know, it's more than he's
ever made at any point in his career, average annual average
value. Ty Montgomery has more juice
than I remember. Just watch them, get the edge
several times when the offense was wrapping their outside run
Concepts, he's going to see some real carries.
He's not just catching passes down.
He's seeing real carries. Oh my God, look at
your brand. Now is just getting tagged
everyone for the rest of Eternity isn't a Gretsch.
Kaiba has to be a million dollars.
He's making 1.8 per year, 1000 over the absolute like Least you
went out of your way to be like two years 3.6 million.
I mean, he's like 30 doody. They have minimums, when you get
it, when you get to, that, 80 million dollars, it is for his
service level. It's a little over a million.
All right, my whole argument is bunk.
I want to have one more other structural conversation before
we hop in a draft and I have to get this off my chest and
there's not much to get off my chest right now.
I do realize that I'm swimming in it right now.
I know sorry, I hit the gym to fill.
Ya hit the hit the bench, bro. All right.
I'm just gonna say this right now.
I'm the biggest 0r beast and I love it.
It's like almost fucking impossible to do at the back end
of round one right now. Like I I absolutely hate it I
don't know if I'm just bored. I love it from the front.
I'm saying from the back, you
know. You don't like from the back.
So I like that. Somebody clipped that some a
clip that. So, someone can you guys talk me
off this ledge? I mean it's just yes Adams is
kicking around there, but once you take off with what running
back, are you taking on like who are clearly Swift swift, but I
like the sea. What's the difference with like
CD Debo? Those, that's my point.
I like Higgins and Debo just as much as CD and I can get in.
Them in the back. End of round two in almost every
school. This is about the Titanic.
Why don't you go Adams tight end?
That seems like so easy, Andrews really?
Yeah, that's true. A leak or like CDs.
Not going to fall, right is 80 piece going to stay where it is.
So like yeah he's no I'm just, I'm just taking him, I don't
think I probably maybe I like have seven percent or so, maybe
I'm slightly underweight, but I'm not fading CD because I
think he's too expensive. Even though I do think he's too
expensive to a point P but it's like this might also would like
to have CD lamb. This he's yeah, he's we has a
breakout profile for sure. And this in the opportunity, the
runway. It's yeah, but my point so
that's kind of my point is like you're having to reach You know,
relative to how you know, much, you think they're worth and then
you're also because that the player pool options for good. 0r
B is so thin. You're just hitting the same
combos over and over there is well, so like that's why I will
mix in. I'll do like Kelsey and Higgins
because a lot of people aren't you know getting that combo.
If they're just drafting off ATP you can make it work.
I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying like in previous
years that was The Sweet Spot. Everyone's Hoops up their
running backs, they're pushing down the wide receivers you You
don't want to get a watered-down version of the running back.
They already took so you beat them with the wide receiver
points. And I just feel like that
Dynamic is almost flip. I feel like I'm staring at.
The gym are Chase. Cooper, Cub, just in Jefferson
team. Like, I'm gonna go to battle
with see deal a shoe like Gigi, I'm dead.
Like, give me Berkeley or Swift. Let me try to bank a top-five
season that way and beat you. That's a really good point.
It really is Shawn Mendes similar point of bananas
recently. And part of his point was that
the top two running backs were all afraid of.
You can see ways Taylor. Tails with the lack of receiving
in the lack of big plays. And you can, obviously
everyone's concern about McCaffrey's health.
I think those two, both not hitting Seems like a lot more
likely than all three of the receivers not hitting, right?
Plus Delta. Plus Kelsey, plus maybe Devonte
where Pete's talking about. Like, if you draft 12th, you
can't get even digs Devante Kelsey either.
So you miss 60 Minutes 60, the CD lamb wide receiver one
season, is harder to get to on the other end than the Berkeley.
Rb1 season might be or Swift agreed.
I thought but that comment up like Davante Adams is atp's
what? Like 11 point something.
Has to fall sometimes Joshua just watches the badge Brigade
bro. Screams where's it's like one?
Because he's a legacy atp's 11. So I would assume he actually
false to 11 or 12 if it's 11.1 in mathematically impossible for
Eric. Do you know what service you
should offer at Spike week is exclusively exclusively streamer
draft ADP. How hilarious is that would be
to look at. We might have to look into that.
Yes, I do. I'm gonna need a minion.
We're gonna need some a minion. The, you know, do dinner was
tracking all of your stuff. I need somebody to watch
everybody streams and you know, calculate the team's.
But in the chat I wonder if this is one of the things of just
like wide receivers are going earlier than they used to.
Because I was just looking at my exposures.
I have 7% na zhi who like with someone I was planning to be
like, he's going way too early, not drafting.
Have 7% cook, same thing, I have five six percent.
Derrick Henry, invest bulmania, Derrick Henry, I should never be
drafting. He said, one of the three I'm
like this is him. Kick him also stream.
I think part of its like in maybe maybe three years ago
chases the 108, right? Like I he is locked in 105 ATP
while I agree with it. I take him every time I have a
chance to If you know at the 105 then like, I don't know.
I don't know if that's nobody fucking Taiwan, go basically.
I'm feeling like maybe the ATP at the top, is just like a bit
different than it than it was in years past.
It feels different because I'm drafting running backs that I
never have drafted before. Don't you think it's that second
round though? Like the first round feels
Fairly solidified, we can argue about 10 11 12 or something like
that. But the top five, I think
everyone kind of with a brain agrees on the top five.
However you want to put Eckler or wherever you want to put digs
Kelsey Devante. It's like, you know, you kind of
just draft those guys as they come to you.
You give me that, but the second round, tell me who's the best
second-round pick Swift Berkeley T, CD Evans, I know the you know
we don't like Evans but like if Mike Evans has 90 catches and 15
touchdowns well would you be surprised?
No marking Andrews right? There's like 15 guys.
I cop it seals in the third round why is Kyle pits not going
to choose for Mike Evans. Would you just come on?
It was a it was a generalization right through a number of save
it for the fucking the last time you did it like 2016.
It was only, it was only six years ago and he's maybe 83. 81.
Sorry, I went over your projection.
I apologize. Mr. Overly precise.
This kid, I watched and saw a lot of myself in there.
More than I even did last year. I think tonight stream is my
final piece of research before I finalize.
It is crazy watching back last year.
Is it just like the vernacular? And seeing how much just the
glossary or whatever our shared language has changed and
evolved. Because I was like, oh yeah you
some weeks we haven't talked in a while.
I have the other. He's the only one who cares
about usable weeks till all of them.
Ben Roethlisberger, usable weeks, blood Leone, some said,
Chuck a change. Nothing like 30 year old, slot,
wide receivers going. 64 68, my juices flowing.
It's loves with any any other idiot.
Other thoughts here, odd. You know, I got that one off my
chest there. I know people are always
disappointed me when I'm not doing more 0r B streams.
But when you guys fucking take all the wide receivers in front
of me, like, I don't know what you want me to do.
Yeah, this is this. How much is this a you streaming
problem? Maybe it's all the drafts to it
doesn't matter. You stream like seven days a
week though. So it is not simple.
This is the issue. It's, you know, what I wasn't
streaming on Monday. I said, let you guys all do
this. I could fucking take a night
off. It was great.
You know what you can do? I mean, you can do the 0r B
start and then do like hyper fragile because you can actually
get starting running back surrounds.
In six. Now it's true.
It's pretty wild. Is that the most unique build a,
hyper fragile team with David Montgomery, Josh Jake.
Yeah, but really, I was just looking at like I hate these
guys and then I'm looking at their atp's in the world, like
in line with the rankings because it's like David
Montgomery, five, six turn. It's like three rounds different
than he's a backup. So, pick someone else.
He's on, special attention. Didn't you see?
Did you see there is a special teamer.
He's a gun, he's probably Gunner on the punt team.
No, it couldn't. They will trust him.
What do you think the JK Dobbins ADP ends up back?
Because it's not going to be 62. I hope I keep smashing Dobbins
be like 40 by, he's gonna end up in the first week of the season,
for sure. How many was it just one last
thing, Pete around what you were saying?
Like the Gibson thing Montgomery is a little bit different but
like I kind of have this feeling maybe I just like, kind of
research and wrote about this. So it's right in my like at the
top of My mind. But like, Gibson's a great
example. We talked about, the contingent
value players, like specifically, at running back
like the pot. Let's just use Pollard is
Pollard, still not like a better pick dantonio Gibson.
Even though Antonio Gibson has like a like if when we project
Week 1 Antonio Gibson has a higher projection than Tony
Pollard but Antonio Gibson needs not one but two injuries to be a
total smash at running back. And even then he's on a Carson
went, right? We talked about Carson Wentz and
how shitty is all for the last 45 minutes.
And now he's on a Carson Wentz offense and it's like Tony
Pollard just needs he could just outplay Zeke and earn a role
that's better than Gibson. Gibson's in a threeway.
They just drafted and doing the third round.
Gibson was a third-round pick and so I feel like that kind of
thing, that's just one example, but that kind of thing like
Darrell Henderson. Why the fuck does Darrell
Henderson go in the 140s? You know, compared to the guys
that go ahead of him who have a better, you know, established
roll. Like so that's kind of the big
thing that I've been. I'm just taking all those
Pollard Henderson. What at Madison, whatever.
I'm getting all those X's are a farce.
Well, I was just gonna say big r p is lying to you.
What's so weird about I was going to be like, well, the
market in atp's are getting really efficient that drafters
our hip to understanding Tony Pollard's continued value.
But you brought up Henderson and I mean Henderson is so fucking
wildly, Miss price. It's that I can't even say that
with a straight face because like why, why aren't we draft
together said? Same so much for the Acres
injury last year, right? And then he was good and
mcveigh's talking about it sort of Michelle's not there which
was the fly in his ointment down.
Travis broke his foot Pi chiropractor, grafting, Ronald
Jones ahead of Darryl. I do.
I can, I can, I can walk and draft arnold-jones at the same
time. I hurt ya, Gretchen you and
Leone had a very polite conversation about Ronald Jones.
It was like a very you guys are, you don't do it, your projection
pod, and you come across the spot.
You guys just were like agree to disagree and kind of just moved
along Leo. He's like I like CH or yeah.
We just have to check that out. Of this series, having a
discussion about how I have a question for you guys.
So, obviously I put on the, the thumb, puppy puppy, three, all
that someone did make a suggestion to hop in the
dalmatian. I mean, do we want to weed out
all these five dollar johnny-come-lately?
He's get a little up, the stakes a little bit and see if we can
get a more real draft here. What, what are you guys
thinking? Yeah, I'm down.
Yes. All right, here it is.
You guys were waiting for the draft tonight.
If you want to play, if you want to come draft, all of our wide
receivers, you have to Pony up 101 bucks for it.
Let's do it. So what's the advanced stuff on
this? Is it slightly different?
I mean, it's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy.
It is crazy. Go.
This is for, let's go and sure it even, Bigger.
Well, only do they is this a slow?
It's a slow, dude. You just put us in a slow, it's
only slows. So I hope everyone's sticking
around. Grab your popcorn.
We're gonna be here for a while. Who told me to jump in a
Dalmatian? You did know, someone in the
chat, told me to whatever, at least I got the 10 for suckers
for answering. All right, well, maybe we
tripped him up and we can get into GM.
And all right, instead we're going to hop in the small ball
because fight. All right, let's get the buff
III. That was, it was a fun idea for
the four seconds. We got the 104.
I was so fucking excited to have the 104.
Evan. I am going to kill you.
That was your suggestion. And that did you change your
avatar to your cute little kids out of time?
Between that just to soften the blow?
Their I can't yell at your kids. Can we still draft that though?
I want to, I want to fucking cry.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah, I'm in on that.
I'm your obligation is what a slow drip that together.
Yeah. Yes, I'll send you the $20, so I
can get access to the pizza party at the end of the year.
That would be, the prize pool, is it?
As big as BB of three, so it won't be a pizza party at prom.
Be an ice cream party. Maybe a Klondike bar for each of
you. I like to do have like, showing
the that I was like on Youtube with Justin to get into the
pizza party. Is this drafting?
Could I come in? Justin, it just create an NF T
of you guys on the stream and that's your, that's your ticket
to get in. Wait, how many people in the
chat just blasted off into that Dalmatian?
And that's the lesson they can't pull out.
You want to come in and take a wide receivers.
Maybe we enter slow draft, you gotta be on your toes.
That's funny. Where you probably time to dreg,
but it's it's only, it's only 1,000 Manfield.
You probably feel like 10% of the whole like you're like for
Dalmatians. Any other suggestions of other
than this him or Kelsey? Yeah, hammered I was going to
say timber Kelsey I think him given the reward.
Let's feel it. I will say to there's like I
think I saw a comment from someone earlier today who said
this to wear it like you, you always feel good when you get
Kelsey, but then like it's Falls to you and late 3rd.
You're like, God damn it. Yeah, I stopped over Celsius
much because of that. The only reason I told you
exposures like in check actually is because I kept its that being
there in the third and I kept getting so mad that I could like
why didn't I just take devonté or digs?
And now I have pits and I must be one announced.
Whoo. Whoo whoo we gotta truth.
Have you guys have you guys just done it though?
Because I have I've just I fuck you guys and I've done a couple
pits. Kelsey.
Yeah. Kelsey has a ceiling that no one
else has that position has? Yeah.
Well, we were. So we're doing a slow Main Event
draft with a couple of our ship Chasers Willis, go more mangy
and Silas who does stuff over at Spike week as well.
And we took pits in the early second, we kind of hemmed and
hawed. Hey, this feels a little bit
like a reach. Walter makes it back to us at
311 in fucking tight in premium and more like, alright, bully
tied in, let's do it. We're not pet.
I'll be like, that's where Waller should be going.
If you're up for up, what do we got?
I'll tell you what we got. Jack shit.
Fuck me. I've tried to tell you, is
probably Dalvin, cook is, I mean, it's what did you say by
far? I would take Tyreke, but Who
Weds do, Tyreke. Shocker, I lost that time.
We only got fucking guy with the 880 guys.
All talk about getting unique and then the guy with the 88
atp's there, we only 18 and you guys can't do it.
The reason I stayed so quiet was I was like, your side.
I was, I was like yourself and that.
Isn't that unique? It's, it feels unique because of
the Dalvin, like, slide in this room, I'm not saying it's not
unique, but like, it's not honestly, I would bet.
There are less Devante Tyreke teams than Devante Dalvin teams.
But also we're about like this Avalanche is intense, AJ Brown
begins went like this. This is a serious fucking
Avalanche in this room. So I think we're going to get a
better running back. Deeley, do you know what we've
been? We've been having a lot of Clips
made for this dreams lately. Shout out both Pat and Gretsch
for pulling together Clips. I need to just get an actual
Avalanche clip. We need to eat see our team
because I'm kind of imagining like that that style of movie
clip mixed with our faces would be perfect.
The only thing Leone, I'll say two of the uniqueness angle
again to because when these Avalanche rooms happen you're
getting every running back way after ADP to.
So you like you have many chances to get unique
combinations of running backs here, but doesn't it start to be
like I mean once you get past the third fourth round
accommodations are also random that isn't really that unique.
If you could Josh Jacobs two rounds after ATP, like I don't
think that makes you more unique, you just got a cheap
jessjacobs, it's like it's like a game of hopscotch, right?
You have to like be able to hop in at the exact right time on
that running back because you also, if you don't, if you don't
dive in at that, perfect moment then.
Later spent eight straight Yeah, everyone got em.
Yeah. It's because there are you
drafting in the Overflow draft? No, it said bollocks that am I
rolling into draft number 2 and Y is Eric here.
I thought you were well, bollock is just the worst sewed.
You can in your old troll that we all indulge on these things.
So I misread the room a little bit because the back half is
full-blown Avalanche. In the front.
Half is actually a bunch of Boomers.
This is okay, this is this your rights, okay?
One through five. Yeah.
Well, I'm better with Dalvin, but yeah, I'm telling you, it's
messing with these Avalanches, like, sometimes, you can't get a
read on them, it'll go down a different shoot that you didn't
expect DJ more, come on board. Yeah, yeah, more was the pic.
We were United on that one badge.
Bro was not letting DJ more fall.
This is like, okay, I like to bunt a I prefer, I prefer the
Tyreke Javonte to V2 to whatever we would have had.
That's what a bad. What cook says you guys know
Cook's Country. We're not we're not going to
stack Miami. I would I would in a vacuum.
I would take waddle over Javonte here, but I'm okay.
I'm okay with either. I'm most certain to the Riser.
Who do you guys want quick? Well, like, Devante.
What the hell? Who do we do
now? We got to reach on to other.
Thanks for locking this into this Leone, way to go, buddy the
stack without the quarterback and first New England, we now
have a team that were talking. Our Trail adds to it.
I remember many months ago, talking having conversations
with Rodman about that, I think they were a little apprehensive
on turning it on because they didn't want to turn people off
that like casuals that show up and just didn't see a message or
something like that and get Auto, drafted really fast.
Yeah, and but this is an awesome awesome update.
What I love about, I'm ready for the streamers who utilize the
queue to get to get punished. It's good to have.
Happen. Pat bucketload of his Q with 96
players. No, I'm past that.
Now, that day I was just to get me.
That was like step to getting the correlations hammered home,
but now I like go down the Q and I pick out the guys that I
actually would want to have my Cube based on the correlations.
Yeah, leveled up. Briefs there.
He should be yes. And also Joshua Allen is still
there. I know Gabe just went.
So it's worse. But I could do like briefs or
her Judy or I would do Judy. I like Boise.
Yeah. Or wall art.
Yeah, I feel like at this point we're just going to just lean
into it. Yeah you want to do Judy, let's
just rip it. Rip it rip.
Yeah, I mean I don't think I have to force a running back
there so I mean, you know, I mean, like the dusty olds.
I'm going to commit. Guys to take her in a fall like
three rounds pasty. That is a really good point
actually. Like we're gonna play we're
gonna have a Zeke. Hyper frat is Zeke hero.
Our B team with Zeke and round 6.
Yeah. If you're not taking cook in the
second or Javonte and the third then there's no point in taking,
you know, Zeke in the fourth or whatever Ramona goes or briefs.
That's where they go. Yeah.
If I wasn't really actually opposed to taking Dalvin and
same thing with Javonte, but like, those guys were actual
values, taking briefs and Zeke kind of like at ATP would
probably be a mistake with how we started.
I would defeat the purpose. Yeah, we said that we wanted to
get more, you know, Dusty mid-range cubies.
So now we can get rust, Eric Carr, and To Us by view, Russ
has an elite, you guys not? Yeah, I do too, but I'm starting
to get worried. Does the Tim Patrick thing like
that not for rust? Sara Lee but like change
anything for. Like it's just depth, gets
depleted cage. A coming back from an injury.
I don't know what I think what God Said traded like I think the
upsides better like it. Maybe it's no more fragile but
the upsides better of hitting the right combination on your
staff. That's true.
Yeah, it's true. My fear is just like, you know,
we're all everyone having your Melvin Gordon verse Javonte
debates. It's like what if this is a
little bit more of a Redux Situation with Seattle and this
teams like pretty run heavy because they have a nice
strength or that's almost my concern.
I think it could be, but I mean, like Metcalf in Lockett.
We're still really good when that happens.
I think you're for, there's actually I kind of like you
still get the huge Spectrum Himmler, but something in Hamlet
the word is that they're letting rust kind of Drive the temple,
the offense as well, which is awesome because they were really
slow in Green Bay. But I think that might be Rogers
thing and Russ is always like playing up-tempo.
So that's a mighty pretty open for like, the last two off
Seasons about wanting to play faster like calling someone took
Zeke. What is this?
Like, super shock front. Half of the room, the first
four. They're not watching this stream
are not bad for us. Neither is people Levitt guys.
Can we observe this TIG Swift? Aaron Jones, Travis Italo.
Maybe it is. Mahomes.
And then comes back with Michael Thomas, Andrew.
I mean, his name is fog. His name is Charlie and play it.
I know the fifth round Waller would have been so good.
It'll, what about Kendall? Let's hit this.
Yeah, whatever one you want making a case got.
I would I would be interested in God went or Consular but gentle
fine. I think we should go kiddo with
the way we started, but I do like God gives us another option
at quarterback kittel distillation.
Yeah yeah. It's like a little bit Overkill,
the tiebreakers clearly, you know, it kills the last, let's
add happened trying to do here, trying to smash Godwin with the
the latest reports that we got and get him in the sixth round.
Dude, if he's actually like, coming back fairly early is
like, the steel of the entire draft.
Yeah, 100%. Aligned with you.
I also like taking when I am wide receiver heavy because I'm
like, I'm gonna get him through. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's that's a good point. Point people are taking DeAndre
Hopkins in the eighth round and you get Chris Godwin who might
actually play week 1 and is way better than DeAndre Hopkins.
Just two rounds earlier. John's talking about Denver
shining will Fuller. How how much more perfect of a
fit is Dallas to purchase get a Kyler Dallas.
Dallas needs to someone Falls nuts.
What is Will Fuller's ATP if he signs with So like around a,
yeah, yeah, sure. Maybe might be taking a benefit,
CD the seventh, the seventh sucks.
Like, there's nothing preventing him getting the seventh nothing.
He's gonna go after that, that whole, that the Godwin amun-ra,
whatever, he'll settle into that, because it's like fucking
Hunter, Renfro after that. Yeah, like, yeah, you take a
job. Are you sure you guys don't want
to do hot dogs, hot dogs. I took a took a backup
quarterback in the seventh round of a lot of drafts last year.
I'd prefer not to take a special teams running back in the sixth
round of dresses. Did we get got like what would
his special teams roll? Be because I don't think Gunner.
It's probably the right one. Role or not.
That good either. He's returning kicks.
No, I don't think that's the right role.
What a stinkin traffic is like probably the right role, not
that bad. I'm that guy, I know, always
he's the left arm on the field goal.
They're drinking, he's playing kartik packages Heaven Jenkins.
So, I mean kind of fits in on the offensive line.
I just can't imagine it out. He's useful myself older.
He's a really talented holder. He's just a gay son, you can't
get down the field. School.
We don't know. They're trying to save a roster
spot, his feel just terrible. They need extra quarterbacks.
So they need whatever. That guy's a real question about
the funny thing before. Oh no.
I like the quote about David Montgomery, like getting a
special teams assignment was like, the ninth grader, who
tried out for the high school play, and he learns that he has
to be the understudy. And he's like, but I still just
really want to, you know, serve my high school and I'll do.
My duty here St. Like how is, how is this
happening? Are you speaking from experience
on that amount that the G? I actually regret doing High
School Theater, which sounds crazy.
But I wasted fucking type like sports.
I could have been acting anyways.
He go ahead a little bit, but the quote is like, he is, he's
doing his special teams reps and then he volunteered to go on to
the scout team and take reps with those guys who's like, I
want to see what's going on with the scout team.
I want to like, The only place you can shine as it gets
difference County leading. By example, they prevent another
disaster like this offseason like Vilas Jones.
He wants to establish that. He's the, he's the heart of the
team, it's wild man. So in his rooms where like the
back end of the draft is obviously like all guys that are
on the stream and watching are they with their quarterbacks?
While they wait to just like super ensure staff.
A core where they take a naked value quarterback, I was just
real quickly or not to dismiss this, oh my God, this mother
fucker like she wouldn't a crust now.
Yeah. That's what I was wondering, was
there as well but getting Lance rust would have been really
sweet. Yeah, right there.
Yeah. Yeah what is?
No it doing, get bent. How about you get bad, dude,
Jesus. If there's a quarterback to take
naked Trail, as can't be it. All right?
Check this out. Okay, this is a quote, funny
thing about David. The other day he was taking a
couple of reps on special teams and is reps were over and he
said, hey can I get on the scout team since my reps are over, can
I get on the scout team and give these guys a look, special
teams, coordinator Richard. Hightower said that just speaks
to Ryan poles. And Matt, ever clues about the
culture that these guys are creating now Back to the writer
but it probably says more about Montgomery who remains a lead
back. But also in the final year of
his contract, this writer just shit all over to him.
Oh my God, who's a writer? I would like to follow him on
Twitter, in, Peace by Kevin Kevin, fish, pain, and Adam
John's. So two people wrote this
together and an editor spiked up on it all, we're now co co
writing tweets co-writing, athletic articles what's going
on with the world? I think all their training camp
reports are under a double by line.
It's cute. Elijah more won't right?
Yeah, I'm starving Leone. Sorry, look, Russell gauges the
other the best. Why are the lights off down?
This is catching up and he's recovering pretty nicely.
I must say well, Isaac, Kirk Burke's.
Yeah. If you're gonna do, Do it.
We just don't know. Running back.
We could take Leone fucking 24 rounds after 7:24, ATP.
That's where we would. You not agree with this?
There's precedent for that, for that.
Make me look like you asked for. We took him Leone.
You got your pick it up. It's an elite elite moment.
I've tears. Oh my God, we ride around night
around nine where jock Jacob should go and Trust.
Oh, I got wide receiver. I want to take we don't fall in
love. Don't ever fall in love with the
wide receiver too late. I've already fallen in love.
Can I actually at Leone? Can I actually asked about about
Josh Jacobs, how are you like thinking about that backfield?
Because it's, it's I talked about Gibson earlier.
Like it feels Gibson, ask where we're taking this guy because of
what he did before and the role he had before and now they like
it's a it's kind of a mess. Backfield.
So are you kind of just like, left the talent went out?
Or what are you how are you thinking about him?
I mean, I don't love him but like, and I think the offense is
going to be good and put up a decent amount of points.
Also, I mean Jacobs caught a shitload of passes.
Last year, I'm not expecting him to do that, but he did, and it's
think it's like a lot of the risk is sucked out here.
We're like, if we just getting double digit, Josh Jacobs weeks,
like we're pretty happy, we can take some swings on some other
backs. Thank you for your service
Willis, it is nicer when you get them this late, because you're
going to take more running backs.
Like, I'm treating Josh Jacobs like I still think he's sucks,
but I'm getting him as a zero running back.
Okay. So I'm gonna build around it
like that. We have a team that we could go
hyper fragile at right now. Take a toppings and just last
year would take them and what has changed since last year on
these guys, but, Thanks, Josh Jacobs, you
know how you feel about Julio 901.
I think it's too early. Holy shit, even it's that he in
this room in this room, he took prescribed Penny 612 you gotta,
come on, holy shit. Dude.
Julio's going like that's not that much of a reach on Julio
where I think he's can. Probably gone down.
Just thought, Darren Wilson. Smash God, damn it.
MV s go. We need a mic.
We're in Rondell. Mondo Rondell Robinson.
What's wrong with this economy? Ninth round Rondell?
This is shades of left. Literally the stream we did last
year with this nonsense. Meanwhile, let's see.
What I love this setup because now, I've got like so many
running backs, I can't out for the rest of the draft, just had
to check in on our Dalmatian. Trooper Cropper.
Justin Jefferson. Where the fuck is this draft?
There it is. Can we like get back to our
draft and what's the OD? The own?
He's locked in Duty. Got Josh Jacobs.
He's fired up and now I'm re-engaged.
The only word we're getting Auto drafted and not get a ride back.
Yeah, I got running back to my cell, I had Ken Walker in my
son. Let's also not forget his screen
name is Poonam for life. I didn't notice that that's
good. There's a lot of great username.
It's not even that it's life with a why Bhutan for Life, get
bed tent? Full of died.
She keeper. I mean, what we're it's August
baby. August.
Damn, I was in Warden. What do we got?
Can we go to the queue? Like I, yeah, we can go to the
cutely. OD, just chill and have a good
time. Relax.
What is there like hard ones. Probably egregious.
Right. He is correlated if it's a
running back. I want a shot.
Pete's Frozen. Yeah, yeah, let's say.
Feels right. I just took cook.
I just took um Weldon too much nicer in.
You're not not what you wanted Singletary.
You wanted Singletary? Me?
Yeah, I do like Singletary. I'm you're like all right, I'll
diverse. Well here's the thing, here's
the thing. Wretch normally I do Singletary
in my 0 RB bills where I need fast production.
But when we have to fucking Bedrock Arby's and high pressure
builds Actually did drafts from Judge
Jacobs last year, for the record, but I think I was
actually even with the field last year.
I'll just yeah, I think I've ended up being even with the
field. Yeah.
Me and me and Leone had this little comparison tool from our
projections. Leone has Josh Jacobs projected
444 targets. And 34 caches, which is she's,
which is 10 targets less than the amount of catches he had
last year. Pain targets, less than the
amount of catches he had last year.
Exactly. Right behind me.
I have him as a smash. Value with that consideration
but why if it is he's losing his passing game role and he has
more competition just in general why?
It just the offense. So the way I operate like I'm
making weighted bats. Like I probably don't think it
as macro is you which is like I'm trying to Envision like only
the true up side of the player like I'm making weighted bat so
I'm like discounting the fact that his points don't matter as
much but like I'm still waiting that in there and I do think his
upside case is like he was a doubled Target sugar guy last
year and he's been someone that can you know be a 20 Rush
attempt Guy game like so I think when you weigh in his upside
Casey awesome Hume and and the, if the upside case comes through
like you just said, I I mean the I love the offense so I'm on the
he's a 12 percent Target share guy with like a 60% carry share.
He's gonna be. I mean that's like really good
for that late. I don't think the twelve percent
Target. Sure.
Can really materialize personally, but I do think if
the offense, what you would have said that, Last year to though,
to be fair, I would've been defensive.
Probably, he probably has 12 Rush TD upside.
He probably does in this offense, Jacobs was really good
as a pass, catcher in college. So they come, in fact, this is
uses a to down guy. Yeah.
Just until it's, it's like maybe it's a reverse of how it
normally is where like we can be over.
Confident, that he won't be used as a reagent, as a receiver
because it's Talent, says he could totally be five to go.
But even if you're worried about what I'm saying with McDaniels,
Damien Harris had 15 rushing touchdowns last year.
The McDaniels often said New England, the other thing.
Why can't he want? Everything?
You guys do that running backs is because running backs, don't
score a lot of points so I think it's like a little bit
hypocritical. Sometimes be like, oh, Josh
Jacobs always going to average 14 points a game, like fucking
week might be like begging for 14 points out of an RV to spot.
That's going to be great. We're yeah, it's the best pick.
We has a whole draft, you win. We all are agreed.
Spiller right, Spillers filler? Yeah, definitely Spiller.
What would you guys think about Tim pageant dude, that's not
funny. He's worried about this dollar.
And now you mow your grass, or you got an electric mower.
Is this is this is some sort of setup, we all know all the time
I did enjoy. Leone goes oh shit, I have my
Christmas lights, still love Silva, hit that
I got some ideas. Yeah to lie, anybody but maybe
just in case every time you do that, I'm just like like I mean
it's like let's see how long you're not asleep out like just
put your seatbelt on. It's not that 750Li so much.
It's one of those things where I know the fact that we're so far
apart it doesn't matter but it's like tornado in outside my house
and watching him like fuck with the fact that there might be an
internet outage because like I'm like triggered like do it.
If your if your internet goes out because mine because I just
see lightning every two seconds outside of my window like you're
gonna ruin this and so I am losing losing it while you're
doing that about Dooms goddess stuck that bitch up.
Oh my goodness, got it all stacked up.
By the way, to the Clover point, they redid the lawn, by the, by
the park, by the public are here, they planted Clover
because it helps, it helps sustain damage, you know, as
people walk on it, use the lawn. So feel like it's a, it's an
elitist take to be integral over.
Yeah. Look where the middle yard of
three yards of kids? There's a lot of foot traffic.
Yeah, you're actually out there, enjoying your lawn.
You needed to, you know, be able to bounce back.
Okay, I can't get on board. I can't get them.
Take guys. All right, sometimes the audio
listener is get really pissed off the leave iTunes reviews
that say, Hey, this is an enjoyable audio experience.
So, here you go. Russell will do it.
JK Dobbins Josh, Jacobs James Cook, Isaiah Spiller at running
back. Davante Adams.
Tyree kill Jalen waddle Jerry Judy Rondell more at wide
receiver. George, Kittle at tight end.
Beautiful team. I do just have to step in and
say, the podcast listeners, I can confirm not that long ago.
One just left me a review that said, this is a terrible
podcast, I can't even see the draft board.
What is what are, what are they doing?
What are they talking about? And I was like, well, I almost
replied, I didn't you dumb fuck it's audio.
So of course you can't see the draft board.
It's DJ. Did you see my note P?
Oh yeah. Yeah, I literally was going to
say the same thing I was about to go to the DFC say the same
thing. Yeah, that's the move.
So we're all in agreement. Yeah, look at this.
No, I don't know. Yes,
thank you. Chaos.
How do you bounce back so fast from the bit to the real?
But if it's a bit Ronald Jones it sure would be nice to have a
little Casey. Bring back quarterly.
Denver super stack. That's why we're going to take
Isaiah Pacheco in the last round.
Yeah it's all pacheco's. The correct place.
For 37 and never had a breakaway run.
You gotta love it. Michael Carter was someone I was
like worried. You have enough upside and then
seagull post put them in like his upside running back article.
What about you Sookie for the the stack?
You want a super stagnant? I'm good.
Are you worried about him? The reports are of quite the
reports. Are you mad?
But he's him? Yeah, the reports are bad, but
it's not Ronald Jones. So we ignore, you know, it's
just so late. Like he's clearly this starting
tight and I mean, George kid'll was a blocker.
He turned out fine. Yeah, but get sticky.
Can't block is the problem kid'll is an elite block.
Yeah. Okay.
Sticky sure you guys aren't worried at that is blocking too
much, you're worried, he's off the field.
It's gonna hurt him. Yeah.
I mean, is it correlated second side?
And I mean 14:5, I mean, if you can't block the have to split
them out wide more, ya gotta build some brown.
He's bobbing less money Wilson. So that'll work.
Well, fine, pick here, by the way, like I have no qualms with
14th. Round brush is, we had to get a
correlated back up tight ends. Bullet, go the fuck to bed in
the audio listeners. Won't know what we're talking
about. Daigle's, got this link.
Daniel's in our private chat demanding to come on diem there,
I'm just making him. Wait, I mean here's the thing
Daigle. You're not coming on your, I see
him right now. He's in a fucking polo shirt.
Go put on some wrestling outfit, if you're going to come on the
screen right now. Daniel, I'm not, I'm not
bringing you out at a polo shirt right now.
That's not the energy we're on. You got to work for this Daigle.
He came from doing golf content had to be, he had to be doing
golf content because every fantasy football show, he does
he's in Riyadh wrestling, a tire blows dress for the show, you
ought not the one you have. I think he's going to get, he's
running to get a costume, he's actually changing.
AR you are you guys actually worried about Raja though?
Like not in the 14th round. But like there's my discount.
What what's the like real? Like, I mean, CH is going to
make this evening, right? We don't know necessarily about
McKinnon Gore Pacheco, Row, Joe like, there's a lot of
uncertainty and I was taking way too much Row, Joe at a much
steeper price than this are. You like actually worried I
think the most worrying thing is that today there was a report
that Pacheco currently is to lead for kick return duties,
which I think is a problem. Yeah.
Like maybe it's not any volunteer for those duties.
Yeah. And he's going on the scout team
after it's like, but like, okay, let's say he's their actual kick
returner. He's active on, he's making the
roster which wasn't a game and active, and he's active.
So now, it's like, okay, so McKinnon's, probably acted so
Row. Joe healthy scratch.
Now that would bore me. We've written off, Derek Gore.
And I agree with that General probability assessment but like
Derek goren Row. Joe is like the same thing.
You know it's I'm a little I'm a little concerned is all I'm
saying about Raj I'm a little concerned you should little
concerned. I want my discount but I'll take
him once. Oh the discount sauce like yeah
the discount sauce like if it's good yeah hit like another guy.
Tyrion Davis price purchase Arrow to see ya like I mean some
of these prices are getting way better.
Iran. These guys that I think we're
like people were overconfident in degrees.
I think we should grab a wide receiver.
Yeah, we probably got David Bell is he was going to say David
Bowie with that. Folks, we've waited for this
moment. We've been trying to get David
Bell on here for a while. Producer, roll the clip.
Oh he's the manager of the Reds right now.
This is we should do a highlight reel of him managing the Reds.
Fred Kevin table. Kids, he said us that clip
about. I don't know, five or six weeks
ago. We drafted David Bell.
I forgot to play it. Probably because we were drunk
then, was it last week? I believe would be shipped
Pacers out of a PC. I was trying to get us to draft
David Bell, so I could play that in mythology.
Comes in and says Donovan. People's Jones has a smokin hot
girlfriend. You need to draft him instead
but lo and behold we finally got the clip and Daigle.
I am glad to see you met my demands to put on.
Some costume. You did change out of your MVC
night. I'm not your puppet and yet, I
agreed to your room. I don't know why.
Oh, baby. Last week.
Bagel. You were literally by puppet.
I was the people's puppet to be fair.
I'll do it for your entertainment for every hour on
the clock. We're all the goods.
McKinnon still here, draft your team.
What about like Brian Robinson boring?
I like McKinnon. He might if we're not.
If we're not kidding about ATP, I want dear Ernest.
Yeah, like the Ernest, I'm always down for dear Ernest
Johnson, in my Pros vs. Joe's the final one last night,
20 rounds, FPC. He actually did not get drafted
during his Johnson. Why the fuck would you take him?
Yeah, you were in and I took Isaiah Pacheco and still more
like Joe's vs Jose. I mean, what's up?
That was a death by the way, I had the 101.
I was the first person to take Christian McCaffrey 0101 and
prose vs Jose to other Main Event winners also overs.
This the one who asked me to put on you to put this on.
Already loser. Riddler wide, sir.
My opinion has changed. I totally approve of the shirt
as this. The conciliar says, I am the
people's puppet. He is right.
I'm just here for the show Pete. Can you put this up really just
super quickly on the David Bell thing?
So something we track is your, your average ATP on on players.
No one has worse bags on David Bell.
Then me my my average ATP, and best all Mania.
Is 154, it's 50 C's, 50 picks cheaper, then might have I got
him. My on average, I have him more
than four rounds, it's more expensive than he goes right
now, like the bridge like The Perils of drafting early, like I
you have some good values and then also you took you know 12th
round David Bell back then that's what my Handler.
Average ATP looks like but that should hopefully correct.
Yeah, that's good. Not getting remember does not
getting more expensive when DeShaun Watson is out for the
year or whatever. This is a puppy.
Correct. It was we tried to make it a
Dalmatian, by the way, I might be on the clock and that
Dalmatian, I am on the clock guys.
Aren't Jefferson or chase. Who do we want here?
Folks, I go to Jefferson. Usually, I'm in here.
A couple things. It looks like an artist's
rendering of me. Wait, I feel like your
Internet's been better. Welcome to the last three years
of Our Lives. Yeah, no.
No. It's better as we sit here now,
but I'm saying in the David Bell clip when I'm like in the clip
saying we should do a clip of David Bell managing the Reds.
It looks like a drawing that's weekly that was weak.
Until like three weeks ago, not I'm sure was just that time.
All right, we are going to be on the clock here.
So we have a 257 to build here. Definitely need another wide
receiver. Was.
Taekwon Thornton, I don't know, Tech, 1, Thornton's and bring
back to my I love Thornton iportant do it or no.
You on this on this I take a lot of valus and taekwon Thornton
let's slowly because their eighteenth round shitty rookie
wide receivers, but Thornton is perfect on this team.
Dobbs is gone. What?
A beautiful. Hyper fragile build.
Yeah we did but you don't need another running back.
I think I just call this a fragile build Leone.
Oh man, you guys. I can't even say who I want a
draft. I just, I don't I'm not allowed
to say it. Bullock have a good night, be
sure to brush your teeth and take your vitamin.
I did get the Flintstones Vitamins for you though.
I know I put your retainer in, put your retainer in.
Yeah, and eventually, you're going to have to take those
little planet stickers off the ceiling.
Yes, I can't do it for much longer Silva's.
Guest bedroom, still has Planet stickers in it, Bobby.
In case you were wondering, do you guys put those up together?
Yeah, there there are no sheets and the pillows.
Don't have pillow cases. It's actually like there's some
got a stain on the guest bedroom.
Oh no, I'm not a number, but it's brown.
It's not like a dangerous Fame. Oh, I'm assuming like he had too
much alcohol. But nonetheless, no, sheets and
stall. I think we should take a running
back. Chris Evans Foreman.
You know, art, you know? Pacheco for the correlation.
I like the dusty old that you guys won't draft.
So who who are those about? Like I like I think most
referring kissick are fine. Sorry motherfucker week 17 is
all that matters. Guys, I'm taking Sony at this
point, over most of the cartilage thing scares, he has
cadaver cartilage in his knee. Now he's three deaf or
cartilage. Yeah, that was the operation
they took. Could cartilage from a fucking
cadaver, and put it on the part of his knee where he scraped the
cartilage off dead weight, 1 years old last year.
We had Jerick McKinnon dead, legs.
And now we have literal cadaver dog.
Yes, actual dust. I'd like, yeah, I'm not kidding.
You just wait till it breaks off some 50-yard, touchdown runs
while. It's only Michelle doesn't even
make the team so needed by Sony's easier.
Also tilt. Stack with the late New England
correlation because as I do more ffp C4.
Redraft, like football guys, and Main Events, you notice that
jaanu Devante and Kendrick. Born, I'll go like extremely
late. I'm fucking watching a clip of
Rahim. Most third beat, Tyree killing a
race, am not most her. I don't know what to say about
that. Yeah, that was, that was before
they put a dead guy in his knee. Has a dead man's leg.
It's true. Let's do another one.
I'm only here is a celebrity appearance because I am using
the word celebrity appearance. So deprived celebrity John
diggle. I've been at PCC football, guys.
Draft in an hour. I'm just wasting time because
I'm riding team, previews, and I'm tired of riding.
So I just want to join my friends.
That's all I wanted to do. Well, at least we know that.
You wear your waste of time diggle.
Really appreciate that. Also, also, you are my time when
I die on Thanksgiving. Correct.
Yeah. The fastest time speed at
practice yesterday. All right.
Unsolicited. Round almost didn't tell them to
Applause for him. Didn't say hey It wasn't an
episode of dr. Phil, you're in the studio, you
need to clap. They'll literally, literally
every player Camp right now is wearing The Mastermind helmet
and everyone gets so impressed. When they hear taekwon Thornton,
who ran a four to forty beats everybody.
Like dude, there were two forty pound helmet.
Who cares what taekwon Thornton does?
Like, you can't beat it in FL. Do we finger back?
Come on. We finished the draft.
Do you guys give you just don't Another puppy or do you want?
Saucing, I've dug you. Most probably on TV.
That's all right. There's not a chance.
What happened to your AC? I mean, I may have missed that
story. Stay for the, I don't have air
conditioning and I can't run the window air conditioner while I'm
on a stream because it's too loud, Leone, stay until we drop
Josh Jacobs and then he clearly only can leave once we draft a
running back influencer. What a one bitches.
Yes, insane that make him some rigged competition of the
summer. Easy 101 CMC.
I can get makes that b. Yeah, that bit is more
interesting now Africa. Up.
It's always been interesting. I agree.
I agree Leone. Why don't what, why what you
don't have fans in Buffalo or like what's going on?
Why can't you keep? It's 95 degrees in your office
where you just drinking City. Oh, I don't I mean I didn't plan
on this being more than two hours.
I'm drive to hydrated. I'm gonna get fucking heat
stroke guys. I'm turning my air conditioner
on. Literally, we all had the same
idea, so we're putting this to the test.
I told me to give me he fucking plan this, he planned this if he
said 14, he knew this was gonna happen.
You want to take Tim fatter? Love it.
Ted, he can hear me now. Hey, I know it hurts and I feel
I'm losing it. I'm losing.
What's going on, guys? You're an absolute coward.
Why did you move it? Where you actually concerned
know what you sure about that? I'm pretty sure Pete even even
beat broke broke. Just now on that one, he was
worried do. What I got caught up in
Gretchen's countdown is like very like I was like, all right
I'm gonna time this perfectly. I mean if you guys want me to
fucking test it, the second round, I mean, fuck it's not
testing, you can just click it just draft him, it's okay?
No, that won't work that part. Where were that will absolutely
work? Yeah, I'm here to watch the
world burn. What if we to 2023 How much did
Patrick do? You guys have were you drafted
him at all? A lot 4%.
I've 10%. I didn't have any Jerry's.
You have like, 30 12 or 13% and I like recently got more into
them, so some of my favorite things.
Yeah, same same. I know, I didn't have jury duty,
but right, right now though it they're still the Judy bump
hasn't happened so you can still actually actually Judy.
But you're not actually overdrafting him.
He's gonna be locked in a 2 wide sets.
You just take them ahead of ATP right now until kids.
Yeah we're not having cake is fun but he's like you know he's
not you do you know what you're getting for?
Catch a it's fine jingle. Come on dude, the Handler
stands, ramp sure though? He was.
I mean there you guys were egregious with that but what did
he say about us? What did you say about us?
If you kick me off, I'm gone. Would I?
You're already halfway in bed right now.
I'm surprised you don't have like a little.
I have to go tonight. Right?
After this. Do you go?
You go. Now you're running your go night
running. I gotta get it in.
I'm on a streak man. Dude, I love this.
It's good for you, hang on Leone, stream yard on your phone
night. Rat, Underdog Cardio Club?
Yeah, I've right now. Yeah, I could do that.
Do it. Go.
Yeah, go right. I give y'all a favor because I
don't know. I feel like I've I did just
giving him permission to not come back, but if he does come
back, I think I'll pop in. Like you don't, it will be bad
and we'll get them for like, one more rep.
Yeah, he liked that idea. He's a buffalo where you can
night run, you wants to get his run in, he's on a streak.
It's 1104. I support it.
We all support Leone. He's sat around night with us.
That was a good one. He's a good friend move the
goods one should, there was one night, I will one night.
I will not run into Silver's house and just flash them live.
What he's downstairs. Watching old overs extremes for
some reason. I'm still not sure why does he
want me to bed every night? His arch, nemesis, does he watch
his randomizers? With because he knew you
wouldn't think he's that you were a vault, you would think he
found the Ark of the Covenant whenever he realized we could
live stream and ffp seas act like we could put it on the TV
he thought it was the greatest miracle in life history and then
makes sense when you realize that YouTube rabbit hole on his
TV because YouTube TV it's could stream overs at discrete.
Make my God man, what did you say?
Hold on, hold on, hold on let's take one is a Failable at the
2/3 of the biggest slam dunk. But pits.
Yes a Kwanzaa slam dunk. Yes pits a take want pity that's
what I'm saying. 24 what are we doing?
Yes, a Quant pits. I mean, say Kwanzaa no-brainer,
I think we can have a conversation about pets.
You have a conversation with pets, but what's the
conversation? I mean, DJ more.
Who do you prefer conversation? Is that I guess Tyree top pops.
A Quantum pits probably, isn't that unique of a combo?
That's a conversation. You think it's goes, 33rd cup
goes, third, overall. What will drop the better team
than all those other? I do think the Javonte sake 1
cup is far more likely to vote. Say, come on, let's go.
Whatever Waller Kettle may come back.
That's fine. We go both come by preferably.
Again, I think say Kwan was going at the two, three turn
because Javonte is a good pic to what we saying here.
Justjust that say Kwan was going at that two.
Three turn for a long time. Now he's up to that 16 range.
So I don't know what what if you had to bet between that pairing,
right? Say Kwan javante with cup versus
pits and sake one, I don't know because Pitts has never gone at
the two, three turn the others who have Of, so I don't know.
It's a coin flip. I think.
Wow, pits goes 30 to do, dude, you to the Andrews team, if you
stare, chronic dice in the eye and ask him to Blink, when
trying to pass on Kyle pits, he will call your bluff as what I
learned. Holy tide head right there also
Silva pour overs that streams watching them over and over
again. He watches Old draft boards,
that's what he loves the most. He loves fucking drow words.
Oh no from like two months in the past if their strained.
He loves draft boards mad because no one because he
doesn't handle his own drafts anymore.
So like it doesn't get city until this is settled traps.
He gets the fucking white. Glove treatment other people.
Get their hands. Dirty with his crap.
When you're part of a TR, you don't do anything.
Yourself, buddy. Oh, I want you just to
Montgomery highlights because this relishing must enjoy.
Life. Is all you, because you made it.
I would love to see Pete. Be the Handler of Silva draft,
and put Patrick at the top and watch Silva.
Just be like absolutely pandas Team.
Six is Dave, We only never came back.
Is he not sitting in the waiting room?
I think he's probably just lacing up.
Those lace Em Up, placing up the new balances.
And here they come. They are Dallas and Pinky
trestles, and Leone assholes. Pinky toes in Leone and the Bots
were were there. Technology is honestly scary if
I can say oh yeah Pete. Do you get?
I get yourself in their name? They will mention.
Oh, never mind. Okay, here we go.
Yeah, yeah, yes, doing his old dynamic, warm up here.
Got some calf, stretches gone there.
Hey, Skip alpha Play-Doh. So we OT, we started our draft.
We got Cooper cup 10, 1 Berkeley Falls to us at 212.
So we take him. And then we're, we had an
intense six, second debate, about Javonte Williams versus
Kyle pits. Who's the pick?
Carpets, can't believe this work even though you only wanted plow
an hour ago, what this is my feelings were of video games
only likes playing. What are you doing?
For tonight. Yeah.
What's your place tonight? Your audio is like shockingly
good for what's happening right now.
I don't understand still what's happening.
Well Ronnie. Underdog Cardio Club.
All right, Leo, do we're gonna have to tell you we're coming up
on our fourth fifth round turn here, I support him the fucking
Highlighters. You gotta run your neck or
beautiful. Are you sir baby Tracer, too?
Yes, yes. If I Stumble all I'm suing
I'm Legit. I thought you were bluffing
about going ready right now. Fucking 11:00 at night.
Michael Tron Leone's. That's a boomer reference.
All right, we're on the clock Leone briefs Hall on the board.
You guys want to go hyper Fragile with Bruce Hall and
Darren Waller? Please you gotta get Waller.
Yeah. I think Waller I'm Wally.
Yeah. Or I mean or do you want to take
Metcalf Juju I'd rather. Other take Mick Waller and
briefs, all right?
Leone. I don't you have Waller ranked
over pits. I haven't like I think it's like
they had but that's what the ATP and we projects Waller higher.
This was again a big part of our NFC West projections discussion.
It's you protect Waller higher than pits, you're a psychopath.
That's what I said. Can we just right now?
A man who does projections is on a run?
While we're doing a draft talking about the nuances of
projecting wall. Aller ahead of pits at a vacuum,
but baking it ATP, which flips pits back ahead of him and we
just got that analysis while he runs with fucking glow sticks.
Over his body. No, you guys.
This is why you watch this tree of life.
It's actually great video and audio quality for not a 40-page
shock credible. I'm shocked, this is really
good, like he's better the cranes video.
This is I think it is. Is it the glow?
Sticks are the glowsticks powering and blairquhan.
Amazing. People like me room props.
We need lyrics like thing in his chest like, Ironman and Ironman.
I also love that the, with all of the neon recessed.
Lighting Bros is by going out on a run Leone, are you gonna won
me over with that wall or point or do I can't sleep?
About that like holy fuck. He's right, holy shit.
Noodle on that. I like this gets more profound
when he runs because he knows he needs to save his words up.
It's funny to go get me out the pitter-patter though.
Like in my ears, the constant. Sorry, no, please don't turn.
5K time 2003. 25:14 was my total time 5K rice?
I'm gonna fuck you that. Well, I'm stream by good for
you. My accomplices.
Don't matter on the ship. Jason, I'm just kidding.
That's awesome. Giggles.
You just got dumped on black guy, actually accomplishing more
than me right now. All right, we're about to lock
the infamous, Josh Jacobs out of deal.
Indulgence, Schultz, DeAndre Hopkins, jobra.
We only have one wide receiver, one tight end, no quarterbacks
and say Quan Javonte and briefs at running back to the rookie
receivers here. Tonio, I was going to try long.
Yeah, we get trained on Leone, let's get trailing, I love
birds, the only Birds over Hopkins.
Yeah. Easy easy game.
Okay. And then who do we want with our
next Beck? Do you want to push quarterback
again? Tony Tony.
Just want company launched we do Hopkins.
Kirk IU IU. I like Ru.
Hi Ru for sure. New Sky.
Yeah. Sky sky correlates with jonte.
I'd probably got. Are you guys all sound good
Leone? I think about the wind in your
sails if we roll the sky clip while you're running right?
Well are you does correlate with?
He'll take some difference, that's true.
Who do you want Leone? Do you want the music or do you
want bread? And I use roll the clip.
It's the fucking sickest name I've ever seen for a wide
receiver. Oh my God.
Damn. Click the audio time.
What are you using or is this literally like FaceTime or
clicking a stream yard from your phone?
I'm like on Safari URL, dudes, far URL, need some counting.
This is a great reception. Literally karein, drained of
this internet for two months. This is like two years.
You're just now, not freezing, like cavemen.
We also talked about the The ATP Arc of Sky more so, you know,
ship chasing pumps him into the 70s then we start fighting.
And because we say it's too ridiculous that Loney Leone runs
on stream and weave looks different.
Beautiful. We only have any are you?
Do you have any mileage goals a week?
You're trying to hit right now? I'm doing like 25 a week right
now. Damn well, here we go, 905 9055,
everyone. Everyone make your picks quicker
so Leone can get through this run, don't don't slow.
Lock this like the underdog Cardio Club, where I had to sit
there waiting on everyone and every treadmill round would go,
55 minutes, 240 accordingly. Is this the latest like in
recent memory that you've ever gone for a run?
I can't imagine you on a regular Wednesday night running apps
11:15. That's crazy.
Oh yeah, it's definitely the latest I got it.
Well, I've been going lately like people don't realize how
hot and humid Buffalo gets because they think it's like a
cold place. So I've been going after the sun
goes down, but it so it's more like 9:00 11:00.
I see. The weather is basically like it
is here, right? I think it's out of shit in the
summer. Yeah.
I think it gets hotter where you are but it's yeah it's just New
York fucking miserable. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean Leone the can we just talk about the brand pivot
Leone's hat? He went from spreadsheet virgin
to fucking nailing, threes like he Steph Curry.
We summiting 49ers running at 11 p.m.
I mean, total some stacker you don't have static it but this is
what Peak Bill performance looks like.
I mean my God just had a leak, no performance.
Whatever I can't make out with Kevin.
I hope you didn't miss it earlier Kevin David David Bell
made the debut. I don't know if you were here
for that but we finally got to the David Bell clip that you
made us and just an epic highlight Club.
So good. I can't we are going to be oh go
ahead. I can't get over the Leone, you
know fast. It literally looks like it
literally looks like the dude. From Iron Man 2 and it's
freaking me out like he's gonna go whipping around the bodily
electric shit ever. Oh my God, the tide to why is it
so tight to your chest but the bottom is loose.
There's a good clip that big-ass winter coat and it fucked up the
one side. So what should we take Stafford
with one of these pics? Claypool or our receivers are a
little. Yeah.
Like Claypool, I like Claypool o'clock.
It or play pool. Any other thoughts on Lockett?
Verse Claypool. I think we agree.
We need a receiver. I got nothing.
Anyone want to break this tie dangle.
What about you're disabled? You could double step.
You could double-check work, you go woods and double stack.
Wood. Tannehill like much later.
I say, Gary Wilson. Should we just do Gary Wilson
Alpha play another rookie. All right, he's not coming back,
but Claypool This is the Hayden thing, right?
We can't take all the guys can't take fucking Tyler.
Lockett like all the hyper fragile teams, we got to get off
the board. Can we sit this Chronicle?
Can we talk about? Chronic dice, right here?
0r B through 10 Rounds, fucking double Taps tied in Lamar
Jackson, and then just pisses the shit out of it.
Rashad Bateman could areas, Tony brand.
I you Tyler, boy, Chase Claypool chronic dice respect.
We need, we need Wilson to complete all this Zach Wilson.
That is Fuck everything. The Milf Hunter is the oneys
Leone's, footsteps are really throwing me off here.
I enjoyed kind of that ambient noise.
I'd like with all my drop, I'm gonna go to sleep to it tonight
turned around. We're halfway home.
Evan Evan says, is this the longest trip?
Today are creative. Ed streams like her two and a
half hours by devolver showed up.
So Thanksgiving so late Thanksgiving with like five
hours. Hours of it.
We went two and a half hours, this Monday along a stream this
week. That's why I bowed out on Monday
because I do, I had a long night ahead of me on Wednesday.
Goodness, I liked it. Did you check in?
Did you see there were like, six people on and you were like,
that was exactly what happened. I said, I would like bail you
out. Like, if you were just by
yourself lonely Street, your prosperous, Joe's that I look,
there's nine people on the stream of like, yeah, fucking go
to bed. Yeah, Pat does this thing where,
so I had a show right before, and I was gonna, I literally sat
down. I'm like, Alyssa is out of town.
I'm gonna sit down. I'm gonna have a little whiskey,
I'm gonna, and I'm gonna watch the show, just hang out drafts
and best ball teams and then I, I'm an idiot.
I hop in the comments and like, make some stupid sarcastic
remark and then Pat insta. Hey, here's the link.
If you want to hop on the show. Next two, and a half hours of my
life are now our Now, wasted getting drunk and talking over
Kyle. Devore chick.
That was fun though. How's it going?
It was fun. That's just the kind of guy am.
I extend the invite? Yeah, you let me embarrass
myself on your stream. Thank you.
Appreciate it. All right.
Dustin says he's playing the host.
How the hell does this only have 66 likes their their fucking
sick fucks at 270 sick? Fucks out here watching their
the old, either y'all I thought it's just turning into a running
podcast, 300 people are watching a new balance commercial.
How many Russian? A new valve sponsorship?
We're about to pick in the at the 1011 turn Leone and we just
had seven straight running back. Kicks off the board.
This is me at 10:00 11:00. I'm gonna do you are going to
finish? Yeah, let's see what chronic
dice. Does he finally crack and take a
running back, he does take Ronald yellow.
This is this? Pat?
Is this your burner account here?
That's at me, guess? Yeah.
Are right. We go.
We can set up a little Daniel jamling going to call it is a
good little. Yeah, he'll probably run routes
and get some targets and shit. And we got the we got the Giants
thing already. Exact, only thing I was going to
say, is Fields. What do you guys think about
taking feel like, you know, like the running young upside
quarterback, what Stafford's good.
But not gonna totally smash. I kind of like Fields I got
like, yeah, like it and then like that as you attack him with
Pringle and we could have gone come.
Yeah, I think feel It's gonna be all whatever, man.
Yeah, we're back. That was probably move.
Chicago is literally trying to make Justin Fields fail.
Like, they're trying to trade their fucking offensive.
Tackle them like, what that roster?
Are they, why are they doing that?
Why are you both are intelligent?
I actually think that's a bad narrative because he was so bad
last year that he's been playing.
He was supposed to be there left tackle, he's been playing
backup, right, tackle all minicamp and OTAs.
So the fact they're now trying to trade him is them admitting
defeat rather than putting him. In there and not letting him get
Justin Fields blown away. Okay.
I don't talk about it, how does it how they have?
Every 20th round best ball? Pick from 2020 on the receiving
Corps? Like that's all they have.
Well, that even more Equanimity has sink Brown fucking Byron.
Wrinkle when the kill Harry, he's receiving Corps.
Thank you. And the rest of the line is He's
got a compliment on my yeah.
Investigate. What you did?
We fucked up and took guys, we only loves it.
He's 28, we only is right in the Leone's wheelhouse.
Oh, he's gonna score 10 touchdown.
Oh fuck, yeah, and you ignored our bosses and put out an
official Daniel Jones over passing touchdowns crop.
So we need it. I heard you.
That was actually a shot. I love that.
I love that bet. But the Giants are fun to play.
They're gonna grow a lot. My favorite part of doing all
the pods with Leone was, when we got to the Giants, I was all
excited to talk about. I think they can throw a ton and
Leone like introduce them as like I'm egregiously high of the
Giants and I was like oh this is gonna be fun.
Y'all obviously mentioned how trash their secondary is like
literally how they have no pass rush or Defense whatsoever.
And that's what helps Daniel Jones more than anything.
And I would be able to help some more than that.
I'm going to say that table is the the no I mean, do they don't
have any choice, but to go five deep and wide receiver because
literally their defense is so pissed board.
Yeah, that's what I have to. That's why they had to put their
foot on the gas doesn't even matter.
Like if they were protecting leads you could run sake on
Berkeley. You won't even have a chance to
run sake on Berkeley because they're going to have to throw
literally every single fucking snap.
I love that Pete walks away in the bottom.
Ott's come in, but the Giants, the Giants are like a little bit
of, like, the Cardinals type of thing where like, like there's a
lot of Talent on the offense. It's a little different Kyler
versus Daniel Jones, obviously, but good offensive line, right?
The, the the giants made upgrades on the offensive line
and the defense like you said is not like it, had were no pads to
being really good. Like that's like the concern
actually that I have with. Like the 49ers is like their
It's might just be fucking Elite.
Yeah, and so they just grind it out, right?
It's like, let's just run Eli Mitchell and trade lanes and
throw it on the timeline concerns as well.
Dude. They're all fits of the 49ers,
terrible? Yeah, it's only Trent.
Yeah, it's only try, really try Williams.
They're only going to run left, they're only going to run left
behind behind Trent Williams. Yeah, that's that's how it fails
for us this year, with Lance's of the o-line, just sucks.
No, no, I, he should I think you should help with that little
fear. You're right.
It'll fix everything. Yeah, I think we it's Lance is
like builds and hurts. You can't fail in fantasy.
The team can definitely feel like the 49ers, they went 7
games ebo, tocqueville Depot, and pick it up and fill.
Yeah. But the quarterback.
Yeah. They'll because they're going to
average over eight carries per game.
He gives field failed lat. I love that.
No, no last five starts feels to not fail.
What did you have? Yeah, but laughs that's not a
game. And also only tube is 72 carries
literally, just two were actually designed runs, we're on
the clock much more higher percentages here.
Tim patch, I'm not even a field like, yeah, you're going.
What do we need here? We need a wide receiver tight
end in quarterback. Team made a best ball, team?
Yeah, well, I Pickens, I would be fine with
Pickens to. What do you guys want?
Charlie's, I do Henry, the only thing about the Lawrence pick as
we were setting up the, the Daniel Jones.
Well now we just set up, Isaiah Zagar, visca
Athena Jones just went right after us shit.
Sorry we already have the miles you got right now point.
Five, two point five. Holy holy shit.
Dude, you're running your four and a half minutes away from
being - you're gonna fit it. Yeah the chances this guy's
still running unreal. Wow, what's your response to
that? What
do what do you think? Like if someone looked out their
window honey there's one of those affirmation or Runners out
there running. They know you're listening to
something. They think it's some tape.
Yeah. Yeah,
they are the ones who jumped the shark.
I'm going to do, I'm getting intimidate because I have soft
agreed to do this relay race that Leone is going to be doing
with some of his friends and it's in Massachusetts and
describe for the people because I still don't fully understand
what I'm getting into like what's the longest leg that I'm
agreeing to run Leone? So they'll total race is 200
miles. And you have a team of 10 to 12
people. Split into two Vans will
probably do like 10 people. So the Vans aren't as crowded.
So each person is averaging like, 20 miles but I think
that's split up into like three different segments.
It's not. Are you a cardio person P?
Or do you just lift weights, sir.
I literally invented the underdog Cardio Club.
Yeah, but StairMaster for 45 minutes, literally does not
count. It doesn't matter, I read cross
country at ice. I mean, the longest runs.
All do are probably like, five to seven mile run.
So that's why I'm at, like, I'm gonna have to train for a
10-mile run here. Yeah, you're good.
I mean, it's spread out over like, you know, 20 hours.
So it's not like, Going running. 20 miles a little ones.
What is this event? Good God.
What it's called Ragnar? Yeah, Ragnarok.
I don't think I could run a mile right to keep drinking these
scores lights the list. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. I'm getting cardio watching
Leone. Yeah.
Right. You, I feel like my body's
working hard right now. Watch the fat guys in the chat
saying, cardio is for the birds. I agree.
Not my favorite ship chasing moments are winbindd for and
Gretsch or together and they're just dipping while talking to
each other. That's, that's the hell drink
moment for drinking and dipping. And, and being like, now, I
couldn't run a mile. I couldn't run a mile like it's
very fitting, it's the best one directly, don't watch the videos
and I'm like, listen to the replays while running and like,
you could hear the chew and your voice like, Like a like a dip
hanging out of his little? Yeah,
let's just say, well, I'm drinking.
I got Mezcal and Cointreau and I couldn't go Yeah, dude, that
sounds like it's almost about actually made him more
delicious. Yeah.
Drinking beers. And I want to Mark so bad.
It actually, if I could have found lime juice, this would be
looking perfect. It's so popular because it like
not exist where you live or what like it's hidden beneath a like
no like ice cream pie drinking something.
I was drinking another drink before and then during some
great on this show, I like try to make them work for you.
We're on the clock. How about how about
hamler-fugitt dubs? Love it.
I love it. I'm down with doves.
Alec Pierce does give us correlation if those do we have
do we have any Chiefs though? We aren't you.
All right, let's do dubs, the dubs, it's a great night.
Let's fucking roll the clip Romeo just w.
I'm the coldest in the guy and I told him I would do it.
So I actually did I was trying to get some money but the fight
came with, but I'd like to take Romeo dub so we get a little
Minnesota, bring back a week 770.
No, It Go. Your girls are your guns.
Let's shout out. Gretsch with our Rovio dubs
clip. Valid the hopper, do the part,
we throw up the dumps in order and it Scrolls is so fucking
good. I don't concered graduates get
started but I wanted you to trust me on that that ending
punch up there Gretch II don't want to ruin the bit?
Yeah, my I mean my original clip was a lot longer.
Yeah. Okay.
I think they got the same bomb for and I have the same opinion.
We don't want to ruin the bit. He did come out and say, yep, he
personally, never corrected. Every all we know this, we know
his name calls adopts, that's all just to say that when this
is going on and they have, you have you heard the most recent
ET our podcast with Levitan and Sylvia, where Levitan pronounces
wandel Robinson, literally I'm not even kidding. 10 times.
When did I'll Robinson and I about fucking lost it and he's
been saying that the whole time anyway and Dale, bro, this is
the first time I've heard of call him when Dale who the fuck
calls him? Wendell Robbie.
How do you look at that name and say?
Well our guys Asia be calling him one Dale like what's he
doing? Better than we are but does it
trigger anyone else when people bike?
Totally Fuck up the pronunciation of other people's
names. I don't it's a personal problem
that I have I will own it but like when people like if you
can't I love you love at San Juan Dale is really not
something, you should fuck up and like when I listen to it I'm
like instantly triggered. I like I get triggered when
people but even the I think Ben we it was we did a show or
something like that. And we were talking about
Alberto and it was like when people didn't spend the time to
like, go to Google and look up, how to pronounce His name and
they were everyone was fucking it up it like triggered me and I
don't know, like I said this is a flaw if of my personality but
I the perfect pronunciation stuff just drives me nuts.
Alberto stuff like I've gone to that clip.
I've watched it probably doesn't times.
I still don't do it, right? Yeah.
Because we've been, I'm very hard so that's like not exactly
right and not that I can do it, but it's like that's how I do
it. That's always simple white guy
from America says it. Yeah, yes yes.
He says it a little with a little arrow.
He kind of says it more like a quick banana.
Yeah. Yeah.
But that's the general. How do you wan Dale?
But one deal, I mean Wendell is I wouldn't I wouldn't mention it
if I didn't already text him personally.
Just be like bro you gotta fucking wendyl.
Come on now. I'm not even close.
There's like three other letters in windmill.
This reminds me real quick before we pick.
Um, you know, part of adding more Clips to the, the hopper
here is that we don't just be massively exposed to Ronald
Jones at Lavista, should old every rap.
So if you would like to submit a clip for one Dale, any other
late round pick to help us diversify?
Our late round selections are Diaz.
It boxes are open, we know that P.
We don't tend to drift a lot of late-round dark throws at tight
end very often. So So the probably good to get
one of those in. It's fine.
It is a night. It isn't that.
Who else do we want to take? We have two pegs here.
What do we need? We could use another running.
We need another one Biff. We have three.
We should probably tell you what?
Ya feel, real weight on that. This team needs 10.
Patrick. Honestly, we should we get a
third bag? Need one money back and we need
it. Yeah, we could go off with
shark. Golf with shark.
I like that. All right, let's do golf and we
did in fact take Greg dull judge, that's good.
But like Greg are I forgot really are I forgot we were
rolling so many clips now. I've been done.
I'm walking. I'm cooling down.
Oh my God. Look at all the fucking clovers
out there. Hey Leone.
What's your address? This is a nice light setup.
Do you know you guys look good? Yeah, the lighting is really
nice. Your house looks beautiful.
You're uh, you're gonna stop your neck.
Looks really beautiful. The lighting is just incredible.
Stop doxing yourself. Now and go inside.
Okay, all right that's enough. Don't don't show your face.
So structurally. Right now we have a three three
nine two, Build mini could argue that you shouldn't under the
advanced reason I got on this. That's, it's either a ready?
I think it's probably a fourth running back.
It's gotta be. Yeah, I think I think.
Yeah. Hey, but we got the dubs clip on
and that was important. We had all the clips.
Get all the clips. Yeah.
All right. But it has been a combined 10
hours and wrinkles. Daigle.
Well actually it's pronounced Dobbs motherfucker.
It's pronounced, el Tri. All right, they go.
You're allowed to go change back into your deck, Ebola.
Thank you. I'm jumping on other stream
right now. Lean hard as we're drafting the
$350 FPC league, so you're trying to got it.
Your cheer jumpy data stream at 11:45.
Oh yeah buddy. What else do I got to do?
What I've done. All right.
Enjoy. Tomorrow night at 7 p.m.
Eastern. Imagine following up the last
guest, can't do, that's all I got right now.
Turns off the nice big glass of water here.
Let's get this Alpha play right there.
Chug it chug it, chug it Leone. I feel like this is like footage
of a serial killer who's broken into someone's house.
And it's, like, filming, it would be amazing.
Rachel's gonna be so pissed. It's gonna kill you.
Oh my God, the Christmas lights on it.
Oh my God, I'm gonna go piss before.
They can we talk about chronic dice here.
I mean, what a build 0r B. He goes P.
Keep your eyes on our team. I hate
Davis price Garrick McCannon dr. Ernest Johnson.
I mean this guy looks just an accident.
Does it mean? Thank you.
For lusting after team, too. Yo, D, you heard that I'm back
at is set up in the same outfit. So I'm out of here.
You just ran three miles and should back up in the same
clothing and like everything was you have one glass of and I was,
like, six ounces of water. He's battling it again.
What about? All right, Leone.
Thank you tour de force performance and I mean, I wish I
would have snuck in a little cardio during this draft.
That would have been a nice perk.
Congratulations, right. I should do all my ship chasing
appearances fall running outside by for thank you for.
Thank you for joining us tonight.
As always and did the storms chill out by you.
Yeah it's kind of like casual you We probably could have ran
outside in in the storms that we have here now, it's like, very
weird. It's gonna storm for like 16
more hours but it is it has calmed down enough for us to do
a marathon Marathon stream. I think I'm going to have to get
a highlight clip made of this show because I think 9:15 I mean
while on the phone as an impressive also just like Leone,
I want At Leone, introducing our Cliffs while running with his
lights. It's a look at this.
Give someone sat on Twitter here for for Leone's outfit for try.
Get Underdog Cardio. Club.
Can I get? I think we could have Redmond
hook you up, maybe. They'll get, they'll give you
rake back on that five-dollar puppy.
We just did So your 125 is now like $1.17 other final thoughts
here before we power this down. This is, this is fun.
Incredible. Yeah, this is great.
All of us. I'm sure we'll be doing Underdog
content and best ball content in some capacity, but on the ship
chasing Airwaves next week, we're going to have Sean Siegel
on FF PC. Plan show, talking 0r B, and
then we will be ripping drafts. If you're in the Discord we
posted our draft schedule. All kinds of good stuff from
everyone up here. Pat teasing.
What was it? What are you teasing?
A to quarterback propaganda. I actually have.
Yeah, I have an article that's going to be a multi-part
article, but I have the first part, like, 95% done, and my
hope is to get the rest of it. Basically done, and then and
drop all of it next week, but at the very least part.
One will be out next week and it's looking at like exactly
kind of what we were talking about.
How this is not best all we're trying to win a season-long
format, we're trying to win for uncorrelated tournaments as
someone put very very well last year and in the best of all Bros
video. But like that is what we're
trying to do. So I was looking at FanDuel the
optimal lineup, the thresholds of Tournament winning weeks and
then kind of seeing where those weeks had occurred in drafts
over The last couple years in Underdog and using that to sort
of figure out fertile areas of the draft for each position.
And then I've took that information and came up with
some roster builds that have been really successful over the
last couple years in an underdog and also successful even years
back in in fan ball as well. So the research is kind of
pointing me towards towards Elite quarterback as one of the
takeaways Grudge. Anything else you got going on?
No, it's just a lot of a lot of stuff going from, you know,
stealing signal since stealing lines and yeah, the the show's
won't lie. Here are finishing up.
You got to check those out. Flip this for the audio
listeners. That's all everybody have a good
night. See you next time.