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All right, it feels hard to 
believe, but we have actually 

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not done a draft on the ship 
chasing channel in the year of 

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our Lord 2025. 
Today that changes. 

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Pat Kurain and myself hopping in
a big board draft trying to take

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down that 250K. 
Can I get Pat Kurain to battle 

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with his own draft assistant 
tool, the sidekick? 

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We're going to find out on 
today's ship chasing Pat Fryer, 

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Helmo Anita Hand. 
Job fix your sight. 

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Jamar and Alpha play Chase. 
Tony, you can't handle the heat.

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It looks like we're finally at 
this point, You're right. 

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All right, if you want in the 
draft with us, Pat, and I need 

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five more here for a big board 
draft, Pat. 

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I've still been other than my 4 
war room slow drafts that I'm 

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in, I have exclusively been 
drafting big boards on stream. 

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How many big board deep big 
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Think I'm 25 deep, I need to 
pick up the pace but did a 

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little traveling. 
Hadn't drafted too much in the 

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last week or so, but came back 
and, and gotten a few in. 

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Yeah, some of the, I mean, it's 
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torn because I feel like there's
still some, some rookie edge 

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that we're that might evaporate 
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when we start to get this 
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So I want to hammer a few more 
today, but it but some of the 

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big rookie values are already a 
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I mean, they're not like 
completely dried up, but there's

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some spots from like, I wish I 
took more of this guy, you know,

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before his price rose. 
Yeah, I just, you know, I've 

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been trying to catch up on 
rookies with all you guys and it

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you know, I, I, I wrote up an 
article for Fantasy Life for 

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this week of just like four or 
five guys who I think will 

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definitely get more expensive in
the coming week, some because of

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the combine, but it you know, so
I did well. 

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I'm, I'm, I'm on a I'm on a 
Travis Hunter kick and we'll 

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we'll talk about him. 
I actually enjoyed the start of 

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your guys's conversation. 
I'm almost done with the video 

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on the deposit Kingdom and I'm 
going to take some pretty big 

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stances on on Travis Hunter and 
build a case for that. 

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We. 
Just we just raised him up 

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pretty, pretty considerably in 
the ranks on the Combine Buzz. 

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I yeah, I highly recommend I 
listen to that episode this 

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morning, or at least the first 
part. 

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And I thought there was a good 
debate. 

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Sacrilege is kind of offering 
more the bear side and Daniel 

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was a little more bullish, but 
yeah, I I think he's going to 

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get more expensive. 
I do too. 

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Who's the I'm see, I can't even 
pronounce these guys names. 

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Tootin the running back. 
I think he's just going to 

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scorch at the comp Interesting. 
Yeah, like a Thor and some guys 

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over at Fantasy Life think, you 
know, he could run like, you 

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know, a four, three or 
something. 

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And we know. 
Oh, no way. 

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OK, you know, he's he's funny 
because my numbers like him, but

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I've like I haven't heard much 
about him and he dealt with some

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fumbling issues and stuff. 
So I've been kind of like, I 

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don't I don't like know enough 
to be like I'm taking a big 

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stand on bashful Tooten, but 
he's very much in the draftable 

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mix at the end of the draft. 
That's that's intriguing that he

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might. 
Yeah, 'cause I was just trying 

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to think like, who are the guys 
that could have some eye popping

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kind of, you know, metrics. 
The other one is Harold Fannon 

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Junior. 
I think he's gonna test really 

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well. 
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And if he tests well, he's gonna
he's gonna really quickly become

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a a pretty trendy pick. 
He did really well in the the 

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zebra tracking data at the 
Senior Bowl. 

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So that's that's a good shut 
out. 

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Yeah. 
So we'll, we'll obviously talk 

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about some of these rookies as 
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We got the the 111 here, Pat 
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board. 
I've been pretty strongly 

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neighbors over BT, but I'm I'm 
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twisted to to. 
Be we flipped it recently to 

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neighbors and I'd like to go 
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I think the the Giants just are 
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like they're they're not messing
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quarterback. 
I think they're very much in the

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Stafford game and I think they 
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trade up to #1 to get Cam Ward. 
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They'll take Shudor probably at 
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I doubt he goes. 
I doubt it goes quarterback 1/2.

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So they're going to be adding 
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an exhaustive list of of what 
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So if he gets a quarterback 
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be excited about him after his 
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For sure. 
So the turn goes Brian Thomas 

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Drake London. 
I love let's see it looks like 

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by rank. 
Did you guys draw? 

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Is this glitching on me? 
I think this is glitching on me.

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I love this rank of Brock 
Bowers. 

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Happy to be heavy on him. 
Or do you want to grab CMC here?

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Let's grab Bowers. 
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smash. 
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a is a strong pick, but I think 
we we have a good chance to get 

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a running back that we like in 
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And if not, you know, there's 
there's guys that you can get 

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kind of in the 4th, 5th, 6th 
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you guys are ahead of market on 
Bauer slightly, if you're like 

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me and love taking him at the 
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him because you're essentially 
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know, with any of the first 
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second round. 
I think you'd want that though. 

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He was so good as a rookie and 
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pretty big quarterback upgrade, 
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And at the very least, it won't 
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stretch. 
This is fertile. 

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This this Tom Brady reporting of
Matthew Stafford Adam to his 

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What Montana ranch to discuss 
play Matthew Stafford the block 

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powers would be pure fucking sex
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That would be awesome. 
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The, I mean, this, this starts 
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This is like we're getting 
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We probably want to consider 
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Right. 
You know where you are because 

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that's one of the things with 
that I've just noticed through 

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my handful of drafts is, you 
know, the there aren't as many 

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clean stacking partners with how
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have with free agency with the 
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Stafford I think is just a nice 
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And if you want to break a tie 
in favor of a little Galaxy 

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brain correlation with your 
second round pick, it doesn't 

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seem like that's going to hurt 
anybody. 

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Yeah, especially if you have 
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Now, obviously he could just 
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think is still the most likely. 
But yeah, this is a fun gal 

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brain play. 
Because otherwise, as of this 

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moment there, there's nothing 
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stacking up Brock Bowers unless 
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take Jacoby and just like bet on
the offense without the 

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quarterback. 
Right, right, right. 

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Yeah, which I think it's totally
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Our guys access Bowers with 
Stafford would complete the what

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if puka has eligibility career 
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We would get to find out once 
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God, he just, he's so good at 
just like feeding the guy he 

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trusts. 
That would be so fun. 

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I Trey McBride here goes early 
3rd. 

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I forget what I was listening to
you on you. 

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You were more hyped on Trey 
McBride than I thought you would

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have been. 
Just one, because I know you 

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weren't super in on him or not, 
like you just weren't like balls

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to the wall in on him last. 
Year. 

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No, I wasn't. 
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Gretchen was the the. 
McBride Yeah. 

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But then also like when we 
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on Marvin Harrison. 
Not that those two have to be 

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mutually exclusive, but I'm 
surprised when I heard you as as

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bullish on him as you were just 
on a tip to those other things. 

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I just think, I mean, I'm sold 
on him being really, really good

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now. 
Whereas like he you know, he did

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it for half a year. 
He sat by Zach Kurtz. 

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He was a good, not amazing 
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And I was like a little bit 
we've seen some kind of one year

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wonder flash in the pants stuff 
at tight end. 

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But once you like prove it to me
for like a year and a half at 

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the level he has, I'm I'm fully 
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Like I do not need any 
convincing that Trey McBride is 

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awesome. 
And I am not worried that he 

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didn't score touchdowns last 
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Like it's his. 
It's not like he's like like a 

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225 tweener or something. 230 
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Like he's a legit tight end. 
He plays on all the plays, all 

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the play action stuff. 
Like he'll score touchdowns in 

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his career. 
It was a weird year. 

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Yeah, it's fine. 
And it's like, you know, it's, 

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it's kind of OK, we're on the 
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So we have kind of this mess of 
not a mess, but we have all 

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these quarterbacks. 
So we can probably push 

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quarterback if we want to go 
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And then you want to grab 1 of 
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I'm down to do that. 
I'd also be down to take TET and

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see if we can get one of the 
running backs back and then 

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just. 
Push, then just push 

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quarterback. 
Then push quarterback, yeah. 

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Yeah, let's do it. 
Yeah, this guy, yeah, could 

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definitely go double running 
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probably mix it up a little bit.
So you you guys have an 

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aggressive. 
So we just took TET at pick 35 

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back into the third round. 
ADP of 4611 picks ahead of ADP. 

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Obviously we're playing the game
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And we were right too, because 
the drafter goes jacks and 

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flowers. 
Take one of these running backs 

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and then we could talk about TET
Kyron. 

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I like Kyron, yeah. 
Yeah. 

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So is this, have you taken TET 
this high before do you think 

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obviously you think this is well
within where he should be going 

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late 3rd? 
I don't know if I've taken quite

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this high, but yeah, I mean, 
he's I think he's an awesome 

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prospect. 
He's like a little bit there is 

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a little bit of a lower floor 
with him compared to, you know, 

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the top end guys from last year 
Cuz he's not I don't think going

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to be like a big time deep ball 
winner in the NFL. 

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We'll see what the speed is, but
separation isn't like his 

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strongest asset, especially 
deep, but he's a really good 

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intermediate route runner and I 
think we'll be a strong target 

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earner. 
And that's where you you kind of

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look at him as like in that 
Drake London archetype. 

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I was I was running comps 
earlier to start to get those my

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articles ready on the prospects.
And the guy who popped up that 

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was interesting is kind of a 
good and bad way actually is is 

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a King Nix, which you know, he 
was kind of like a bigger but 

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kind of like possession receiver
with juice. 

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And then he suffered a bunch of 
lower leg injuries and and was 

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out of the league quickly 
thereafter, but was really good 

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early in his career. 
And then Juju Smith Schuster 

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actually popped up as another 
kind of big bodied like, you 

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know, he he was running out of 
slot and Ted will be an X but 

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similar in the sense of like, 
you know, can produce after the 

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catch and probably going to see 
like not the highest A dot more 

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of an intermediate guy. 
He didn't come to Michael 

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Pittman, but I think he's kind 
of also in that the Pittman 

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archetype, but I think a little 
more juice. 

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And I guess my my only pushback 
would just be like, is it even 

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possible for his landing spot to
push him any higher than this is

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going to be able to jump Worthy 
and Marvin Harrison and JSN? 

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Or is this like kind of the top 
of where his ADP would settle? 

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And would you want to just try 
to grab cheaper shares of him 

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right now? 
Yeah, I mean, that's a, that's a

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reasonable case. 
I, I guess like if you're 

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playing the CLV game and taking 
the late 3rd isn't, isn't great.

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If you're like, hey, I want a 
pretty high upside wide receiver

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to bet in the late third round 
and I can and I know I can get a

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running back in the 4th or at 
least I'm pretty sure I can. 

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Then I think he fills out the 
room very nicely. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
So we start Malik Neighbors, 

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Brock Bauer's Tet and Kyron. 
Nice young trio of pass catchers

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there, come back and grab Kyron 
at pick 38. 

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The turn team went Lamar and 
Zay, which is kind of a fun 

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double tap there. 
Feel like Zay is going to, you 

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know, he's almost like the 
opposite of Xavier worthy. 

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It's like he was out of sight, 
out of mind during that playoff 

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run, whereas Xavier worthy like 
really boosted his stock. 

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But it's like, I still don't 
think anything's really changed 

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for how good Zay Flowers is. 
I don't I don't know, I'm not 

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that into Zay because I think 
you're kind of like giving up 

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some of the breakout upside like
Zay Flowers in the in the 

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situation that he's in, like 
Lamar has played well enough to 

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win back-to-back MVPS and 
Flowers has been good but not 

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amazing. 
This past year. 

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We had Mark Andrews tail off, 
especially as a yardage 

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producer. 
And I don't know, it's like what

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what more kind of could have 
been there for him to like 

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really break out as a second 
year player where I think I'm 

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now feeling like Flowers is a 
good player, but not amazing. 

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And this is an expensive price 
to pay for for a wide receiver 

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like that. 
Yeah, you're, I think you you 

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are probably sacrificing like to
your point, Zay Flowers isn't 

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going to finish as like a top 
five 6-7 wide receiver, Like 

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that's just not in his range. 
But I also think you're probably

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getting a much better floor then
you're like, I think your floor 

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is better than Marv. 
You know, obviously, Ted, I 

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agree, you know, so that that is
I think you're buying a pretty 

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safe, reliable asset. 
And what I like about what this 

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drafter did is you are getting 
the correlation there. 

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Yeah. 
As far as stacking it, I'm into 

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it. 
If you're stacking it, yeah, 

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yeah. 
But it just feels like a little.

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Sorry, someone mentioned. 
Yeah, the board was frozen there

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for us. 
Sorry, Pat, we are actually on 

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the clock here. 
My bad guys. 

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I don't know what happened over 
there. 

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Judy, Ken Walker, Camara Sutton 
in here. 

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Sidekick likes this taking a 
wide receiver. 

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Yeah, I'd be into either the 
wide receivers or Walker. 

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Yeah. 
Let's let's let's do Walker 

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kind. 
Of the reverse move of of last. 

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Time. 
Yeah, exactly where I don't 

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really feel that strongly. 
And he does go Caleb Johnson 

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right away. 
So yeah, we grab Walker. 

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We'll see what he does here. 
Do you, do you have a preference

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of Judy or Sutton if we have the
choice? 

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Bo Nix is like, so expensive 
that it kind of has me thinking 

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Judy, but I'm fine with either 
one. 

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Yeah. 
So he does double tap running 

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back there, Caleb Johnson, 
Kamara. 

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So we have our choice. 
Cortland Sutton has the higher 

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ADP just slightly, but you guys 
have a slightly higher rank. 

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On So Knicks is 86. 
When do we pick? 

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Let's just see if the Knicks is 
realistic. 

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We pick next at 83, so yeah. 
Yeah, let's, let's take, let's 

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take Sutton, Yeah. 
Let's give that a shot. 

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I want to see what happened with
that draft board there because I

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had this up and it just like 
it's like nothing happened there

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for a while. 
Let's see if it works here 

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again, what were we talking 
about? 

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Oh the the Zay Flowers and and 
Lamar together as opposed to A1 

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off. 
No, yeah, I like that. 

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I definitely like that. 
Yeah, why would we pass on Judy?

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I do I sacrilegious. 
I still have like sticker shock 

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every time I see him, like the 
song and dance we've done with 

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Jerry. 
Judy, what was it 2 years ago? 

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We were taking him at the 3-4 
turn and then I was like, oh 

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this fucking guy, make banish 
him to the 12th round and now 

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he's back up here to the sixth 
round and we don't even know who

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his quarterback is going to be. 
But like to kind of go back to 

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the flower stuff, like what's 
the difference between him and 

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Sutton, you know? 
Well, I mean, obviously I think 

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Flowers younger has I think has 
a much better chance for 

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touchdown regression, right? 
Like Sutton has basically lived 

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off of touchdowns. 
But yeah, I I see your point. 

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Like he's always gonna probably 
be 1B in that offense. 

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You could continue to see likely
expand. 

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Maybe they hit on another pass 
catcher or, you know, they 

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strike me as a team that'll 
continue spending second, third 

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round picks on receivers. 
Right, right. 

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Or him and Judy. 
I mean, I guess quarterback 

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plays the difference there, but 
it's like I. 

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Still, I still like how his like
distribution of points in a best

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ball format. 
Like he popped off for some 

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really big spike weeks last 
year. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
I remember him against the 

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Broncos, 'cause that was my team
that finished second in the BR 

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when he went off for like 28 
points there. 

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So I don't know. 
I, I think he's a volatile 

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asset, but like I like having 
access to the Ravens and I still

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think he's he's the best bet. 
Yeah, Pepper, Tony has a good 

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comment. 
Yardage is the biggest indicator

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of touchdowns. 
Based on yardage, he should have

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scored 8:00-ish. 
Touchdowns will positively 

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egress. 
Plus he's attached to Lamar. 

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That's that's all good stuff. 
I I do think like in the fourth 

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round, there's probably a guy 
who like smashes and and is who 

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you need. 
Yeah, it's hard for me to see 

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him being that guy, but you 
know, he could definitely, he 

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has a a really good weekly 
ceiling being a part of that 

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offense like you're pointing 
out, so. 

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I think he's settling into how 
you think about Devante Smith or

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T Higgins or Jalen Waddle. 
Make sure. 

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I still definitely prefer TI, 
think what we've seen from T is 

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definitely a cut above that, but
maybe like Devante and Jalen 

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Waddle. 
Yeah, I mean, certainly better 

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than Waddle last year. 
Yeah. 

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And I guess they, you know, the 
other thing we kind of had told 

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ourselves about the Ravens, at 
least heading into this year, 

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was like, what if the defense 
regresses a little bit and they 

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throw a more? 
I mean, there's always they, 

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they were kind of an interesting
roller coaster team this year 

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where the start of the season, 
their secondary was really bad 

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and then they kind of shorted 
up. 

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They shorted up. 
So there's still kind of stuff 

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there where if this Baltimore 
team had a bunch of injuries or 

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gotten shootouts, it's like, OK,
I, I want to start seeing, you 

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know, Zay Flowers and an offense
that more resembles the Tampa 

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Bay box than, you know, the, 
the, the Steelers or whatever. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, so we start here. 

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Pretty fun build. 
We got our 2 running backs, 

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Kyron and Kenneth Walker in the 
fourth and fifth round. 

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We got Brock Bowers in the 
second and then three pass 

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catchers, neighbors Tet and 
Sutton. 

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Just as I talked, it looked at 
Kyra and Kenneth Walker. 

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If this was two years ago or 
even last year, we would have 

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talked about the scary dead zone
for running backs. 

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Is that like not even going to 
be part of the best ball lexicon

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this summer? 
Is anyone going to talk about 

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any of these picks being dead 
zone picks anymore? 

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I don't know, because it's kind 
of it's kind of been broken up 

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by like the Kyron and Walker are
formerly like four years ago, 

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probably third round picks. 
So which wasn't really a part of

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the dead zone. 
It was like, I guess that 

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someone's maybe late 3rd. 
I can't remember Ben's original 

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definition, but this is kind of 
more like 4th through 6th was 

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was what I had in my mind. 4th 
through 7th maybe. 

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But by the time you get to the 
7th, wide receivers starting to 

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dry up and you're you're kind of
dealing with a different profile

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than you used to. 
And then you have like some guys

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like Naji is a classic dead zone
back, but he goes in like the 

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9th. 
So it's a little different 10th 

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and he was going on like the 
11th to start. 

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It's kind of nuts. 
That ties into the very first 

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comment on the stream today. 
Pete, don't let Karain talk you 

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into Naji. 
I got your back. 

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Stay strong. 
Wow. 

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I didn't know on this field, I 
don't know that we need him. 

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I do. 
I honestly do like him. 

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As you know at at at cost, when 
you start pairing him with like 

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you have Trayvon Henderson and 
you know Devin Neil and you, you

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have Naji in there, he kind of 
ties the room together. 

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So I do obviously we want to 
come away with Bo Nix with one 

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of these two picks. 
The questions is do you, do we 

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think the Lamar drafter would 
take him or can we grab Jalen 

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McMillan and get Bo on the 
comeback? 

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I'd be I'm think I'm Bo just 
because like we set that up and 

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it's going to be such a bummer 
if we lose it and I don't mind 

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taking Warren, Oregon, Hawkinson
even. 

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You don't. 
You not minding taking Warren? 

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What a shocker. 
Yeah. 

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Sure. 
I don't mind it. 

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I don't mind it. 
I don't think he was going to 

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take him. 
I still like McMillan. 

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We talked about this on our 
episode last week. 

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I thought you you brought up 
some good cases against him. 

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But I still am interested, 
especially at this price. 

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Right now he's sliding almost 10
picks past ADP. 

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So Michael Dubner's gonna have 
an article out on legendary 

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upside probably tomorrow. 
And he so he's writing up 

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mispriced players. 
And McMillan is someone he had 

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written up as a mispriced 
player, meaning he's overpriced 

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because of the, the risk that 
Chris Godwin could sign there. 

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But we're getting him here about
10 picks past ADP. 

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I'm I'm into it at this price. 
Yeah. 

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So, yeah, so he does fall back 
to us and, you know, on a team 

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where we did take, again, I 
don't know if these words are 

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allowed or relevant anymore, but
dare I say detours away from the

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wide receiver position there. 
I think getting McMillan as our 

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wide receiver 4 at pick 86 makes
sense for this build. 

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For sure, Lil Dodger says how 
come it's Pete and Pat, not Pat 

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and Pete? 
I was talking with with Britt 

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and we're like, she just, she 
just goes. 

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How do you think we are to 
people like are we Pat and 

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Britt, Pat and Brittany, 
Brittany and Pat like how, how 

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do you like? 
And we're kind of like 

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discussing like, how do you 
think like this couple or that 

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couple would say, have you ever,
have you ever had this 

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discussion with Lauren? 
I haven't. 

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I mean to answer little Dodgers 
question, Pat and I actually did

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a best out of 100 Rochambeau 
series before titling this video

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and I won. 
So we did Pete and Pat. 

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I will say I do agree now that 
Pat and Pete I think the shorter

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name always sounds better first,
but. 

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It's double, double short, 
right? 

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It's more syllable. 
Pat, though, actually does sound

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better. 
Britain. 

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Pat versus patent. 
Britt we, we came to the 

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conclusion that if she's Britney
to people it's Pat and Brittany,

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but if they know her as Brit, 
which would be more kind of 

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people or like closer friends 
then should be Britain, Pat. 

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I think our friends Pete and 
Lauren, Lauren and Pete. 

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I think our friends say Pete and
Lauren. 

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OK. 
Because we live in a male 

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dominated society. 
Because the patriarchy, yeah. 

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Because of the patriarchy, I 
correct anyone if they say my 

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wife's name first. 
But yes, I I'm sorry, you know 

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what it's it's very meta right 
now. 

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You got to you got to maximize 
YouTube thumbnails. 

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YouTube does actually have an AB
title, or at least a thumbnail 

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function. 
I think what I should do is AB 

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test these two titles, see which
one leads to a higher click 

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through rate, then we'll settle 
it. 

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We'll settle it. 
YouTube algo. 

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It's always. 
Weird writing title, not not a 

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fan of that. 
It it is this weird thing like 

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when I title my videos on my 
YouTube channel, like I would 

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never write Pete drafts a best 
ball team as the title. 

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00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,840
But like over on ship chasing, 
like somehow my brain 

446
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,440
immediately switches to like 
more of this third person like 

447
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,320
omnipresence talking about the 
ship chasing universe. 

448
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,920
So I'm like Pete and Pat like I 
turn into a different person 

449
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,840
when I write the titles for 
these videos. 

450
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,480
All right, there you go. 
Naji Harris off the board at 

451
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,480
pick one O 1 to goods. 
Seems like a nice pick there, as

452
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,800
is RB3. 
It's pretty good. 

453
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,080
And that way we don't have to 
draft him, so it works out well.

454
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,080
You see, Sacral just comment. 
I have people refer to my wife 

455
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,000
like she's a character in 
Handmaid's Tale. 

456
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:28,920
She's of Zack, of Zack. 
I met Zack and his wife and she 

457
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,240
was like, people just call him 
Zack now. 

458
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:33,400
I hate it. 
Yes. 

459
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:36,680
Well, yeah, that's probably 
weird. 

460
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,800
That's the thing too. 
Like when I, I'm, I'm literally 

461
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:44,360
having cooter doodle on after 
dark on my channel this weekend.

462
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,160
And I, I like calling her 
Amanda, but then people like 

463
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,920
freak out because they don't 
hear Amanda. 

464
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,480
But I'm just like, I can't just 
keep calling you Cooter doodle. 

465
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,680
And I certainly can't abbreviate
it to Cooter. 

466
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,040
Like there's there's no winning 
in this situation with these 

467
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,880
online pseudonyms. 
I think you you could maybe 

468
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,440
abbreviate to Cooter couldn't. 
Hey, Cooter, it just like that. 

469
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,200
It just, it doesn't, it doesn't 
work. 

470
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,360
All right, we got a, we got a 
1241 build Cook in here about to

471
00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:15,000
pick at the end of the ninth 
round here. 

472
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,640
Some quarterbacks at the top of 
the board. 

473
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:22,240
The sidekick likes us grabbing 
either JK Dobbins or securing 

474
00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:26,280
the stack, with Mims, Keenan, 
Allen and Kelsey also kicking 

475
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,720
around. 
Here what what are your thoughts

476
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:28,960
on Kelsey? 
Because I'll, I'll tell you 

477
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,960
this. 
If Kelsey's ADP was higher, he'd

478
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,880
be higher in the ranks. 
We're going to kind of be riding

479
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,600
him up on the announcement that 
he's playing. 

480
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:43,120
Are you into him at all? 
I can I say this, can we can we 

481
00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:45,600
lock up Mims? 
Sure, let's do it. 

482
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,240
I like Mims here. 
Let's do that. 

483
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,000
But yeah, so let let's talk 
through the Kelsey stuff. 

484
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,080
I I'll be honest, I haven't like
really like recircled back to 

485
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,560
thinking about this post him 
clarifying that he's coming back

486
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,000
ADP 118. 
You guys have him one O 8. 

487
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,040
He's now right around the Nejoku
gotter range. 

488
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,000
Price seems fine to me. 
It sounds like you're kind of 

489
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,600
excited about him at this price.
Well, not, not like excited, but

490
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,360
man, I mean, he's he was still 
projecting pretty well to close 

491
00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:17,600
the year and had, you know, some
decent production. 

492
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,360
And it's like the bar is so low,
a tight end and he's and he's 

493
00:26:22,360 --> 00:26:25,720
playing like the risk is now. 
There used to be risk of of 

494
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,560
straight zeros and that's gone. 
So he'll he's going to get more 

495
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:31,840
expensive than this, I would 
say. 

496
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,720
And Drake May went, this is how 
we calibrate the sidekick is as 

497
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,560
long as you have naked Drake May
at the top. 

498
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,560
We know it's working correctly. 
But yeah, I'd probably be Kelsey

499
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,320
here. 
Yeah, I'm fine with Kelsey. 

500
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,720
Not a popular pick in the chat. 
Chad does not like Kelsey. 

501
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,800
One other little feather in the 
cap. 

502
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,200
We are building out a Denver 
stack. 

503
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,520
So breaking ties in favor of AFC
West correlation. 

504
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,200
Never a bad idea. 
Now have Bowers and Kelsey as 

505
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,280
part of this. 
I don't think he's a bad pick, 

506
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,000
but I do actually wonder how 
much room his ADP actually has 

507
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,320
to run just based on comments 
like this. 

508
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,360
He was retired on the field this
year. 

509
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,720
Yeah, I mean, he certainly was 
not Kelsey, but the dude like 

510
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,240
let me just pull up the the game
log and I'll I'll do underdog. 

511
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:29,280
In the divisional rounds, he 
scored 21 point to underdog 

512
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,800
points, half point PPR he scored
18. 

513
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:43,880
Hope you got muted. 
All right, while Travis, while 

514
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:48,000
Pat is back, maybe I could look 
up the Travis Kelsey box score 

515
00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:52,160
and tell you what he did. 
Here's the recap of the team so 

516
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,680
far. 
We have Bonex at quarterback, 2 

517
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,920
running backs Karen Williams and
Kenneth Walker, our five wide 

518
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,440
receivers, Malik Neighbors, Ted 
McMillan, Courtland Sutton, 

519
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,440
Jalen McMillan. 
Look at all the Mcmillans here, 

520
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,200
Marvin Mims, and then our two 
tight ends, Brock Bowers and 

521
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,320
Travis Kelsey. 
Sorry, yeah, I unplugged the 

522
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,360
monitor with my foot. 
The no. 

523
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,600
So yeah, he had 18 points in 
Week 17 against the Steelers, 21

524
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:23,080
points against the Texans. 
Like then he sucked for the last

525
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,960
two games, which you know, is a 
risk. 

526
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,560
But as far as like spike week 
potential goes, you're getting 

527
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,000
him in the 10th round. 
I don't know. 

528
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,400
I think he's, I think he'll move
up a little bit for sure. 

529
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,120
Is it that crazy? 
Zach says did not expect a year 

530
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,320
ago that Travis Kelsey would 
turn into 2025 Hertzgerald The 

531
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,880
like when you click Travis 
Kelsey right now you are hoping 

532
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,240
he has the Zach Ertz sees it 
from last year. 

533
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,080
Like that would be a really nice
outcome for Travis. 

534
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,960
Exactly. 
Exactly. 

535
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,960
Pat, I think your mic is maybe 
plugged into a different source 

536
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,520
or or whatever. 
Now you sound different. 

537
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:06,200
Yeah, thanks. 
Yeah, Kelsey with Bauer seems 

538
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,240
super greedy. 
Greed is good, I believe is the 

539
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,200
term I've heard. 
So yeah, we're definitely 

540
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,960
getting greedy. 
Yeah, plus Omega King says what 

541
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,280
is this, Kelsey Spike week these
days? 

542
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,160
14 points? 
I mean, he hit 18 plus in two of

543
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,440
his last four games. 
Yeah. 

544
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,040
So I don't know. 
I feel like a little. 

545
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,880
So the the thesis is kind of 
you're saying like, hey, you're 

546
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,400
going to probably have some 
really low scores during the 

547
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,200
regular season, but you're 
playing it as they ramp them up 

548
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,200
again, load management when it 
matters. 

549
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,360
Travis Kelsey is out there. 
And the other thing is like they

550
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,200
were running away with the BI 
this year. 

551
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,880
If they play in a more 
competitive environment where 

552
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,600
they actually have to win games 
Weeks 14 through 1718, you could

553
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,280
maybe see his role a little bit 
bigger then. 

554
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,720
Yeah, and you also say like what
if he if OK, so he he has been 

555
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,240
the engine of the offense and 
that's not working anymore. 

556
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,480
But if the off if what if like 
if worthy stepping up and Rice 

557
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,840
coming back could honestly be 
good for him as like he's he is 

558
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,920
moving to the Rich Gerald phase 
of his career. 

559
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:19,440
But like, OK, like we're we're 
taking Mark Andrews, who clearly

560
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,880
just like is not the Andrews of 
old and is, you know, more of a 

561
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,120
bet on touchdowns and being a a 
trusted piece of the offense. 

562
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,920
Andrews did he already go? 
When did he go? 

563
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,880
Yeah, he went in the Mark 
Andrews. 

564
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,520
Yeah, Mark Andrews went in the 
eighth. 

565
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,600
Yeah, yeah. 
It's like the same. 

566
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,360
If Kelsey's playing, he's like 
he's isn't he just Mark Andrews 

567
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,840
you? 
Hate the Ravens? 

568
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,240
Zayflower sucks. 
Mark Andrews overdrafted. 

569
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,520
Look at you. 
He's not running all the routes 

570
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:55,440
and you know these, these, he's 
dropping critical, critical 

571
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,560
catches in playoff games. 
You know this this seems like 

572
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,560
Travis Kelce could do that all. 
Right, we're about to pick at 

573
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:08,320
11:11. 
We got a 1252 cooking here, No 

574
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:13,080
other obvious stacking stuff. 
I do love the price of Christian

575
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,560
Kirk here. 
He's still one of my favorite. 

576
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,320
And I think the guy behind us 
has two quarterbacks, so we 

577
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,800
could be able to grab Kirk 
Lawrence here if we like. 

578
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:27,320
Let's try it. 
I like it all right. 

579
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,000
Yeah. 
Paul said. 

580
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,240
Isn't he just Zachritz? 
Zachritz is a free agent, so 

581
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,320
that's one reason he's not 
because we don't know for sure 

582
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:44,920
he's going to be back. 
If he if he is back, then yeah, 

583
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,600
I mean, he should go higher. 
I don't know if I would take him

584
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,640
in like the 9th or whatever, but
yeah, there's some, there's some

585
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:54,920
additional downside with ertz 
all. 

586
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,640
Right, we do get Trevor Lawrence
coming back to us, so that works

587
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,720
out nicely there. 
Bonex double stack with Sutton 

588
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,560
and Mims got Lawrence skinny 
stacked up with Christian Kirk 

589
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,560
and some nice pieces around it. 
Yeah, I this team is coming 

590
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,040
together in a pretty clean way. 
Love it. 

591
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,360
Who is your who's your most? 
I know you said you're just like

592
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,800
25 drafts through, but who is 
your most drafted player so far?

593
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:32,120
Let me pull it up. 
Hunter, Henry and Drake. 

594
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,960
Drake Mays not far behind. 
So there you go. 

595
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,200
Yeah. 
Brock Purdy, I have it at 36%. 

596
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:44,360
Jalen Wright I'm at 36% on. 
I've drafted a decent amount of 

597
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:50,320
Gabe Davis, which is kind of 
gross, but he was free and we'll

598
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,200
be there. 
So had some spikes last year. 

599
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,640
Yeah, 32% Bowers. 
I've taken some Michael Wilson 

600
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,600
as another guy who's got a role 
free. 

601
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,800
Evan Ingram, Kyler. 
I have a bunch of Kyler. 

602
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,520
He's very cheap for what he can 
do on a weekly basis. 

603
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,000
Yes. 
Yeah, I mean, Caleb Williams 

604
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,840
goes ahead of him here. 
Brock Bonex definitely getting a

605
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,320
nice. 
It's funny how that stuff works 

606
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,600
where it's like, you know, I 
understand he was a 

607
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,800
disappointment last year, 
especially when you could have 

608
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,800
just waited 3 or 4 rounds and 
taken Jayden Daniels instead. 

609
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,800
But he's gotten cheaper and I 
think the offensive outlook is 

610
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,480
getting better. 
You know, Marv in year 2, Trey 

611
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,080
McBride's ascendants who maybe 
they add another piece running 

612
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,960
game still good. 
Like getting the discount there 

613
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:49,080
seems nice. 
Yep, people, people not into 

614
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,880
Jalen Wright in the chat. 
I mean, he wasn't that great 

615
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,400
last year, but you have Mostert 
moving on and a lot of the stuff

616
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,560
on a Chan who's very expensive 
is like, hey, man, don't you 

617
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,360
know that their offensive line 
sucked? 

618
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,600
Like, yeah, I, I do, but like it
might suck again. 

619
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,040
And so I'm I'm not that into 
paying like high second round 

620
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,239
prices for a back who wasn't 
efficient. 

621
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,840
But you're getting at the same 
time like if you're going to 

622
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,000
offer me much cheaper prices for
a piece of a backfield that has 

623
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,440
been very productive under Mike 
McDaniel. 

624
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,080
At that point, I'm like, yeah, 
what if the offensive line is a 

625
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,159
little better and they're able 
to actually run the ball a 

626
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:33,440
little bit more as opposed to 
just like doing all this like 

627
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:38,360
short dump off stuff to Janu and
and HN and get back to kind of 

628
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,440
more of the identity I think 
they want I think right, could 

629
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,679
be a part of that. 
So yeah, just a a second year 

630
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:50,080
breakout bet at running back. 
Not not overly expensive to 

631
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,520
make. 
Right. 

632
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,639
And it's like, obviously if they
add someone in the draft or free

633
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:57,360
agency, like you adjust. 
But we've also seen situations 

634
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,960
like this where nothing gets 
added and you're like, holy cow,

635
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,240
his price needs to start to rise
rapidly because he's a 

636
00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:07,640
contingent upside bet at worst 
in an offense that generates a 

637
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,280
ton of points for the running 
back position. 

638
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,720
Exactly. 
And they could add somebody, but

639
00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:14,800
that's another reason why I'm 
not that into a Chan, right? 

640
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,920
Like if I if I'm eating it on a 
13th round pick and then he 

641
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,120
drops to like the 18th round or 
whatever, OK, you know? 

642
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,800
By the way, if you guys didn't 
check out ADP Chasing on Monday,

643
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,120
highly recommend it. 
Had some very good debates on 

644
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,400
there, actually posted a clip on
YouTube and. 

645
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:32,880
Twitter earlier Yeah, it's a fun
episode. 

646
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,200
Yeah, Pat and Mike arguing there
and then also a lot of pushback 

647
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,440
in the comments about the A Chan
stuff, so recommend listening to

648
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,160
that. 
People like a Chan. 

649
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,120
They do Anthony Richardson and 
we got some running backs here. 

650
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,120
Quorum. 
If you want to stack up the 

651
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,560
running backs, Algier, Ray 
Davis, the best receiver is 

652
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,520
Restrepo. 
A little bit of a reach Seems 

653
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,680
like a running back pick here. 
Yeah, I think Algier, we don't 

654
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:03,440
want to take quorum. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

655
00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:08,360
Those are the spots where it's 
like if, if quorum like really 

656
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,400
slid, I wouldn't be opposed, but
slightly I had ADP when there's 

657
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,880
comparable players like Ray 
Davis, yeah. 

658
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,600
I just assume with the sidekick 
there, he's actually getting 

659
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,960
docked as the teammate, like, 
cuz we're not trying to get you 

660
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:28,280
the, you know, he's the 
handcuff, but we needed a 

661
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,760
running back there. 
So I, I, I think Richardson or 

662
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,960
yeah, or Davis, but Richardson 
adds some, some, some upside. 

663
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,640
I don't take a ton of them, but 
let's get them way past ADP 

664
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,440
here. 
That's true. 

665
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,160
I mean, I there's a reason it's 
happening. 

666
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,920
Let's take Ray Davis. 
I mean, the goods brings it up. 

667
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,640
You know, there was the article 
that came out about the Colts 

668
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,000
saying it is going to be an open
quarterback competition between 

669
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,000
whoever they bring in. 
That is bad when they're like we

670
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,520
don't know between who. 
Yeah, that, that was a huge red 

671
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,360
flag where they're like, whoever
the hell walks through this door

672
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,160
is going to have a chance to 
start over at the. 

673
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,680
Area, that's a good point. 
That's a very good point. 

674
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,200
We might need to bump them down 
even. 

675
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,760
More I I I'm with you though, 
like I still think as your QB 

676
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,120
three what you're getting it it.
The problem is it starts to inch

677
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,960
closer and closer to the Justin 
Fields bet right where the 

678
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,680
upside is there. 
But it's not even just like the 

679
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,200
question of the spike week 
potential. 

680
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,240
It's like when do those spike 
weeks happen? 

681
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,760
Yeah. 
No, you're right. 

682
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,080
There's a chance that he's not 
an early season starter. 

683
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,960
Before we were like, yeah, he's 
he's an early season starter, 

684
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,720
but he might lose his job by the
end of the year again. 

685
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,800
And now it's like, I don't know,
is he definitely the starter by 

686
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,560
Week 4? 
So yeah, that's a good point. 

687
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,560
I'm glad we took Davis. 
Yeah, he's, he's a tricky one, 

688
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,160
those ones. 
Like that's a thing that has 

689
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,840
happened with Best Ball over the
years where and I do think that 

690
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,400
Justin Fields and those things 
have been good examples of it 

691
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,400
where it's like you can justify 
a lot of things saying, hey, I'm

692
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,720
playing to win first and 
$250,000. 

693
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:06,920
I do it all the time. 
But if you stack these really 

694
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,440
risky bets over and over and 
over again, you're really going 

695
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,080
to burn a hole in your portfolio
of teams. 

696
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:20,400
Yeah, yeah. 
And I think with onesies, the 

697
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:25,800
risk of them not playing like 
straight up not playing because 

698
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,560
like, so, for example, I wasn't 
into Kelsey when he was like had

699
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,880
not announced right after the 
Super Bowl that he was playing. 

700
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,640
I was like, I'm out. 
He's he might retire and I'm 

701
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,400
taking two to three guys and one
of them just is a zero all 

702
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,680
season. 
Like no thanks. 

703
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,840
And I feel the same way at 
quarterback with the week 17 

704
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,480
stuff. 
Like if you're, if you're giving

705
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:48,520
me a guy who's a real risk of 
missing the end of the season 

706
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,440
and I only have two other guys. 
It's also February and so maybe 

707
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,200
I have like one other guy 
because I'm dealing with an 

708
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,680
injury or something. 
It's a huge problem. 

709
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,040
So typically I've been fairly 
wary on the guys with late 

710
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,360
season bench risk. 
Richardson's a little different 

711
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,080
because he has such a high 
weekly ceiling when he plays. 

712
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,680
But you're right. 
I mean it's it's pretty similar 

713
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,840
to Fields, although Fields goes 
just after and. 

714
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,160
It it will we'll be able to make
those comps more clearly. 

715
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:20,200
When we do find out who the 
mystery competitor is, we'll 

716
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,840
have a. 
Frankly, you could be fields 

717
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,240
now. 
That would be interesting. 

718
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,640
I know dude. 
Then then you just. 

719
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,920
Then you just take both Fields 
and Richardson with your last 

720
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,560
couple of picks. 
Yeah, in a, in a draft. 

721
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,040
That's fun. 
Seriously. 

722
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,520
It for sure Ferris saying his 
ADP could plummet if they signed

723
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:38,800
a legit competitor. 
Absolutely. 

724
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,320
Like if they bring in the 
Darnold type, he's in trouble. 

725
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,080
He's he's in big trouble because
Darnold's a bigger impediment 

726
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,640
than even Russ would be, I would
think for for fields. 

727
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,280
Yeah, yeah, I'm going to, we're 
going to lower Richardson a 

728
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,280
little bit. 
Not like, you know, I think he's

729
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:01,880
fine at some point in the late 
rounds, but it's, it's just a 

730
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,560
lot of risks to take on when 
they're like openly talking 

731
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,240
about competition in a week 
where you could like you might 

732
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,040
expect them to get up at the 
podium and be like, he's our 

733
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,000
guy. 
Like we, we like the the 

734
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,280
Seahawks are kind of talking 
with Gino. 

735
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,040
Like we expect him to be our 
guy, you know? 

736
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,760
Yeah, They're not. 
That's not how they're talking. 

737
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,640
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Vibes much 
better on Gino and just kind of,

738
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,200
I know they they ended up firing
their coach and yadda, yadda, 

739
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,240
but still, like Gino never 
imploded in the way Anthony 

740
00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:33,760
Richardson imploded where the 
franchise is like holy cow. 

741
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,560
As you know, Brett says here, 
the GM coaches jobs on the line.

742
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,080
We're on the clock, Stafford 
goes. 

743
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:41,960
That would. 
Have been our. 

744
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,600
Galaxy brained Jordan 
Whittington here, if we want to 

745
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,720
pair him, he's top of the ranks 
and a nice ADP value. 

746
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:50,920
And then we could see if Shadur 
comes back. 

747
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,200
Or do you want to prioritize 
Shadur? 

748
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,360
What do you think? 
You could also, yeah. 

749
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,120
Whittington's fine. 
Wandale's fine too. 

750
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,400
Do you like Shadur? 
He's OK. 

751
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,080
All right, let's do Whittington 
then. 

752
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,320
I'm just trying to think I guess
with with Bo Nicks, Trevor 

753
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,280
Lawrence. 
I mean I think I'm generally 

754
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,760
leaning 3 Q BS here but but how 
do you feel? 

755
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,720
Yeah, I, I, I'd be down and take
Shudor I, I do take him in this 

756
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:24,200
spot a reasonable amount. 
He scares me a bit like looking 

757
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,280
at his comps and stuff. 
It's like guys who weren't that 

758
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,680
good and then also like didn't 
do much right away cuz his style

759
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:36,000
of play, he takes sacks, he 
makes mistakes, but then he also

760
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,800
I think is going to score most 
of his points on like as like a 

761
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:45,120
higher volume passer. 
It could it could be not the 

762
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,160
best rookie sees it. 
Bryce Young is it was his top 

763
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,360
comp for me and I think it could
be got like that where he has to

764
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:52,760
get his feet under him a bit. 
But. 

765
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,560
I think just positionally where 
we're at, getting a guy we feel 

766
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,760
pretty comfortable is going to 
be starting in the playoffs as 

767
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,160
our QB 3 is good. 
Here, Yeah, yeah, I know. 

768
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,840
I, I, I do like him as kind of 
filling this role on your team 

769
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,520
and we're getting him past ADP. 
Yeah, take him at pick 182. 

770
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,600
So we're up to three 
quarterbacks here, Bonex, Trevor

771
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,840
Lawrence and Shudur, 4 running 
backs, Kyron, Kenneth Walker, 

772
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,160
Tyler Algier, Ray Davis. 
Probably going to have a nice 

773
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,040
spray and pray approach at 
running back down the stretch 

774
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,760
here with only four up to seven 
wide receivers. 

775
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,520
Think we recovered their 
neighbors, Tet, Courtland 

776
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,680
Sutton, Jalen McMillan, Marvin 
Mims, Christian Kirk and Jordan 

777
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,480
Whittington and then Bowers and 
Kelsey that tight in there, so 

778
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,440
in good shape positionally. 
Historical anomalies asked of 

779
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,880
how it was a good pick two years
ago, we were on opposite sides 

780
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,600
of the Hal wars. 
I was very anti Hal because I 

781
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,360
thought he was going to get 
benched, but the Hal, the Hal 

782
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,600
Bulls thought he's going to 
score a bunch of points before 

783
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,560
that both happened. 
Both happened. 

784
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,760
So I don't know. 
I mean, I think it's kind of, I 

785
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,560
think he was someone you 
probably were happy enough to 

786
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,400
have because he scored enough 
points. 

787
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,560
Like he he across the threshold 
for the price. 

788
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,280
But I don't personally want to 
have to like be in that position

789
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,080
of like, hey, especially on a 
guy who's not like a fully 

790
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:17,880
mobile quarterback where, yeah, 
like Daniel Jones last year I 

791
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,520
was out on. 
I know like Eric Beinfort, who 

792
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,160
was in on how was also in on 
Jones. 

793
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,320
I think it's a little 
philosophical. 

794
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,080
It's like, you know what you're 
getting into. 

795
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,640
The guy's probably getting 
benched in the year, but he 

796
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,320
might score enough points to 
where you're good. 

797
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,160
So if you build a team that way,
it's probably OK. 

798
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,520
But I tend to be like, I'm only 
taking two or three of these 

799
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,440
players total and I don't really
want the guys who are strong, 

800
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,960
have strong chances of of 
getting benched to close the 

801
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,000
year. 
I'm to that reason that you got 

802
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,920
to kind of twist my arm with 
Derek Carr because I think he's 

803
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,600
probably not playing at the end 
of the year this year. 

804
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,480
Yeah. 
I think the other thing that's 

805
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,400
that's, you know, going back to 
the Anthony Richardson thing, 

806
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,080
right? 
I mean, we saw a good sample 

807
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,000
size play out last year of him 
being the starter and actually 

808
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,600
not flashing the ceiling we 
wanted. 

809
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,640
Whereas like with Justin Fields,
it did feel a little more 

810
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,000
binary, like give him the starts
and he's going to RIP off these 

811
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,840
40 yard explosive runs. 
Like a 30 ball is going to be 

812
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,760
happening every couple of weeks.
Like Richard said, you you want 

813
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,840
to pull up a box score, like you
can go pull it up. 

814
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,200
Like I was trying to make the 
case for him and he had that one

815
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,840
game against The Jets and like 
one other game over 23 points. 

816
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,120
I want to say like he did not 
show a high ceiling. 

817
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,560
So even if you win and he wins 
the job, like you make the 

818
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,760
correct bet. 
It's like, are you winning 

819
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,280
enough to take on the bench 
risk? 

820
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,640
And I'm starting to worry with 
Anthony Richardson that like, 

821
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,920
because of his passing 
struggles, that the ultimate 

822
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,840
ceiling we all, you know, 
salivated over is not there. 

823
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,920
That's totally fair, man. 
He's been it's weird because 

824
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:52,200
when he has a good passing day, 
he does tend to have like quite 

825
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,280
a good day and it's it's like 
usually he he gets like a deep 

826
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,560
pass in there, but they happen 
pretty infrequently. 

827
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,960
It feels like like one out of 
four, one out of five weeks. 

828
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:09,600
You get the passing day and he 
doesn't he doesn't run like all 

829
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,360
the time. 
So he is he's he's much more 

830
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,280
boom bust than I was hoping he 
would be. 

831
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:21,280
We're on the clock here. 
I do like the idea of Troy and 

832
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,400
just triple stacking Denver 
after kind of taking the plunge 

833
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,400
and then you want to just like 
spray out running back down the 

834
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,600
stretch. 
Yeah. 

835
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,320
Grab Troy Franklin here as our 
8th wide receiver sidekick. 

836
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,920
Seeing where we're at is well 
likes a couple of these rookies 

837
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,680
up here, La Quinta Allen, that's
me adding the egg. 

838
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,920
Fun to say La Quinta kind of had
to get ahead of that. 

839
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,520
Brashard Smith and then you're 
into Shipley. 

840
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,120
We got estimate. 
Khalil Mullings. 

841
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,000
Do you have a a favorite running
back who's available right now? 

842
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:03,200
Yeah, it'd be Brashard Smith 
would be my favorite of these 

843
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:03,720
guys. 
Yeah. 

844
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,200
All right, let's go ahead and 
grab him. 

845
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,760
Can you give me a little 
elevator pitch? 

846
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,160
I do not know anything about 
him. 

847
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,160
Former wide receiver actually 
going to be working out with the

848
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:20,800
wide receivers for part of the 
combine is hit The the buzz out 

849
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,280
of the Senior Bowl was like, 
this dude's a running back like 

850
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,760
he is. 
He looks good running the ball 

851
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,840
and decent size. 
I think we'll test pretty well 

852
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,840
as well. 
I was looking real analytics has

853
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,640
some like MPH stuff and he's, he
has a play where he hit like 

854
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,480
really fast. 
I think it might have been, it 

855
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,480
was like 21 plus at least. 
And he was, you know, he, he 

856
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:50,200
looks like maybe we're going to 
see him test and better than 

857
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,440
people expect anyway. 
And just so you get, you're 

858
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,280
getting the versatility, you're 
getting a guy who can probably 

859
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,560
be, you know, kind of this 
year's Tyrone Tracy as far as 

860
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:03,160
the bed goes. 
Sold a lot of these picks. 

861
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,000
We saw a run on them here. 
Jordan James, another guy that I

862
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,920
just continues to rise. 
You know, Bruegler had him I 

863
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,520
believe as his RB5 in his big 
board. 

864
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,040
So definitely some steam coming 
there. 

865
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,120
We mentioned Tooten earlier 
here. 

866
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,560
Pretty fun late running back 
class to to throw darts on. 

867
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:26,440
Yeah, Jordan James, I don't 
think is a very exciting 

868
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,080
prospect. 
He has the lowest breakaway 

869
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,960
percentage of any running back 
that I have, you know, going 

870
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,440
back years. 
And so that's not fun, but he 

871
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,640
has a really good success rate 
and he pops for a lot of guys on

872
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,560
tape I think cuz he's like a 
super consistent runner and he 

873
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,120
played with Bucky Irving have 
heard stuff or like, you know, 

874
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,840
he looks kind of better than 
Bucky to me, you know, when 

875
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,120
they're sharing the backfield 
together. 

876
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:55,200
So he could be the type of 
running back who, you know, I 

877
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,000
tend not to be as into this like
the churning out consistent 

878
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,240
positive gains, but not a ton of
explosiveness. 

879
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,680
But but really surprising in 
terms of the draft capital that 

880
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:08,400
you're getting, making him a 
pretty clear target at this 

881
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,720
price. 
If he were to run up, then no 

882
00:48:11,720 --> 00:48:15,200
thanks. 
But you know, like Tyrion Davis 

883
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,680
price was a lot more fun when 
you're if you're getting him in 

884
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,800
the 20th round, you know, 
instead of post the steam. 

885
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,560
And that's kind of where I'm 
like, I think he could be 

886
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,520
basically nothing even if he 
gets capital, but he also might 

887
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,600
be a guy who goes like third 
round and is installed as a 

888
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,120
starter and you're getting it 
for free. 

889
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,800
So he's kind of a no brainer in 
the final rounds right now. 

890
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,120
Yeah, and to me, like, you know,
where we took Ray Davis and then

891
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,840
you're kind of sliding down 
here. 

892
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,480
You know, we took him at 1:58 
and then you're to Ollie Gordon 

893
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,400
at 165. 
Gorendo, RG, Harvey Eckler. 

894
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,800
You know, I, I would just make 
the case to like once you're in 

895
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:56,240
this say like fourteenth round 
range, it's like go get your 

896
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:59,640
guys, you know, like either the 
opportunity cost is, is 

897
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,160
essentially nothing there. 
I agree. 

898
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,520
Yeah, I. 
Think the other you don't want 

899
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,000
you would. 
You would have an an you would 

900
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,600
have an absurd bag if you were 
constantly taking Jordan James 

901
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,720
in the 15th round. 
You'd have to have a lot of 

902
00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:13,440
conviction and not much 
humility. 

903
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,400
But like, I don't think in any 
individual draft that would 

904
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,240
necessarily be a mistake I guess
is what I'm saying. 

905
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,960
Right. 
And I would say if I was going 

906
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:27,000
to say like reach 2 rounds for a
guy, it would be a guy who you 

907
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,840
haven't taken much of, but who 
you think is a good bet. 

908
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,720
And you're like, I'm keep 
getting sniped on this guy. 

909
00:49:31,720 --> 00:49:34,360
Just go ahead and get him. 
And that would actually be a 

910
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,320
little bit Jordan James for me 
because I like it's been like I 

911
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,440
said, I haven't drafting much as
much recently. 

912
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,880
And he's someone that recently 
we've moved up in the ranks 

913
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,240
quite a bit. 
So but my personal portfolio, I 

914
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:47,960
don't have so much of them. 
So he's someone like I would be 

915
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,640
very comfortable taking in the 
16th round to make sure I get 

916
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,200
because I think generally you 
want to be mixing up these bets.

917
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,840
There's no one in this range. 
We were talking about this on 

918
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,680
the pod with with Daniel and 
Zach where it's like what's 

919
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,120
going to happen post combine And
as we get closer to the draft is

920
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,920
we're going to start to 
understand that like, hey, this 

921
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,440
guy that we thought was like 
live for like round two or or at

922
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:13,280
least round 3 is maybe like not 
guaranteed to get drafted. 

923
00:50:13,720 --> 00:50:15,800
And this other guy who we 
thought was more of a day three 

924
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,400
guy is now consistently being 
mocked in day 2. 

925
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,120
So we're going to and, and it's 
going to be more of the first 

926
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,440
bucket where like these guys are
all useless, but there's going 

927
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,800
to be some big, big hits. 
And so spreading out the bets 

928
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,120
just makes a lot of sense. 
Yeah, and there are. 

929
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,360
You're not getting a lot of guys
free anymore. 

930
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,080
I mean, here's another guy. 
Can you give me something about 

931
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,600
Phil Mafaw? 
I think it's Phil Mafa. 

932
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,000
He's big back out of Clemson, 
kind of like one of the there's 

933
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,320
like a bunch of, like big backs 
who didn't like, fully 

934
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,240
distinguish themselves in 
college and he's one of them. 

935
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:52,640
Yeah. 
So not someone I've really 

936
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,080
drafted. 
All the fun ones are off the 

937
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,400
board unless you have a little 
love for rookie Rookie marks. 

938
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,640
Woody Marks estimate would be 
the correlation bet. 

939
00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:04,960
I like Terry. 
Gibson, Yeah. 

940
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:10,960
Yeah. 
Man, it's crazy seeing, you 

941
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,680
know, Jaleel McLaughlin too, 
Like you're thinking about that 

942
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,400
Denver backfield heading into 
last year and how you you really

943
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:19,360
did. 
Like if you would have gone to 

944
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,560
my head, I'm like one of these 
guys is going to be a winner. 

945
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,120
There's good one of these guys 
easily there. 

946
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,200
Were no. 
Winners. 

947
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,200
No winners. 
At all. 

948
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:31,120
No winners. 
So one more pick, Mr. Irrelevant

949
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:35,480
here, Pat. 
We got a 3682 brewing here. 

950
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,760
Sidekick doesn't mind a 
quadruple stack with Valet or. 

951
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:39,720
Do I don't? 
Either. 

952
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:44,040
Yeah, I honestly don't either. 
I mean, I think Peyton spreads 

953
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,840
the ball around among these wide
receivers. 

954
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,600
We didn't invest a ton in 
Franklin. 

955
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,400
And so you're kind of like, it's
like 2 stabs at who has a good 

956
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,400
role between him and Franklin. 
I don't mind it either. 

957
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:03,800
Let's do it. 
I, I like the big I did. 

958
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,520
I, I think it's different 
because I used way more draft 

959
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,840
capital. 
So I, I, if anyone pushed back 

960
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,760
on it, I would not put up much 
of a fight. 

961
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,080
But I did the like premium 
triple with Baker in one of my 

962
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:20,040
war room drafts where I had 
Evans, Godwin and McMillan, 

963
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,560
which is a lot of capital to 
spend on that offense. 

964
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,800
But just conceptually, I love 
the like onslaughts in the big 

965
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,600
board draft. 
I do too, because this can be, 

966
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,800
it's very hard to stack in the 
big board. 

967
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:36,600
Like I, it's kind of stuff tends
to get blown up and we don't 

968
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,480
obviously know all the teams and
where everyone is. 

969
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:45,480
So it's just like hard to stack.
And at the same time, if Denver 

970
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,600
pops off in one of these weeks, 
it would be awesome to have a 

971
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,360
bunch of Denver pieces and and 
you're going to be going against

972
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,400
fewer teams that are like 
overstacked on that team. 

973
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,800
And the, the thing I like about 
it too is, and I kind of feel 

974
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,680
the same way as you we mentioned
like bro Nix is a little pricey.

975
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,680
Like I, I don't think it's bad, 
but it, it definitely is a 

976
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,880
smidge pricey. 
So when we are investing in him 

977
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,160
and we're saying he's going to 
return essentially 4th or fifth 

978
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:13,560
round value like at least two of
these pass catchers are are 

979
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,640
smashing in that scenario. 
Yeah, I do like the Shidor pick,

980
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,920
by the way, because we because 
that whole thing we talked about

981
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,080
with Stafford just applies to 
Shidor. 

982
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,320
Like what if he's on the Giants?
What if he's on the Raiders? 

983
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,280
Yeah, that's true. 
Yeah. 

984
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,400
So we have, we potentially have 
that. 

985
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:29,880
Two outs at it. 
Yeah. 

986
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:36,080
Yeah, let me let me read the 
final team here. 

987
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:41,080
We can get some of your thoughts
in on how this build shook out 

988
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,200
36923 quarterbacks. 
Bone Knicks, Trevor Lawrence, 

989
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,560
Shuder Sanders got up to six 
running backs, Kyron and Kenneth

990
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,400
Walker anchoring things there. 
Then Tyler Algier, Ray Davis, 

991
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:55,000
Prashad Smith and Estimae are 
wide receivers neighbors Tete a 

992
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,120
quartet of Broncos, Cortland 
Sutton, Marvin Mims, Troy 

993
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,920
Franklin and Valet. 
The other wide receivers their 

994
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:06,840
Jalen McMillan, Christian Kirk, 
Jordan Whittington and then two 

995
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,960
tight ends, Brock Bowers, Travis
Kelsey seems like a good team to

996
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,480
me. 
Seems like a good team. 

997
00:54:11,720 --> 00:54:14,800
Yeah, I like we, we got some 
correlation, very strong on 

998
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:19,160
tight end running backs a little
bit shaky, but we have like 2 

999
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,440
guys like two week 1 starters. 
So we need, we have some high 

1000
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,320
end contingent bets. 
I think Broussard Smith is a 

1001
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:31,400
nice kind of Lotto ticket. 
A couple things on the sidekick 

1002
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,200
that Jordan said. 
Pete, we need you directly 

1003
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,600
clicking on it to cure the 
players. 

1004
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,040
That is a feature. 
You can do that. 

1005
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,880
I do know that. 
I just don't know why Jordan, 

1006
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:43,320
why Jordan cares. 
It's kind of like a Peter patter

1007
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,480
patter Pete situation here. 
That's true. 

1008
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:54,640
You don't have to and I do, I do
like, you know, we, we, we went 

1009
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,120
against it in some, some ways, 
but we also, you know, like, I 

1010
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,840
love that Bele sitting there at 
the top, even if you don't, you 

1011
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,840
know, he was second. 
But I think I find it very fun 

1012
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,160
to draft with for that reason 
because you're like, I'm, I'm 

1013
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,720
going sometimes, you know, 
second, third down the list, but

1014
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,600
it's hoping to keep track of 
what, what you're trying to do 

1015
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:15,800
in terms of the correlation and 
all that. 

1016
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,880
Yeah, yeah. 
And I do think like the the 

1017
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:24,760
estimate and valet, what they 
cost you, you know, relative. 

1018
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,080
We always use the auction dollar
analogy. 

1019
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:31,400
I mean, these are hitting me of 
$1.00 things where we've made 

1020
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,840
such a massive bet on Bo Nicks 
becoming the next great fantasy 

1021
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:40,160
quarterback. 
Yeah, and and Javonte's gone and

1022
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,440
we don't know what they're going
to do. 

1023
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,600
Like he keep, he keeps talking 
about the Joker role and 

1024
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,400
everything and like, look, I 
mean, they could add Genti and 

1025
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,080
then that changes everything. 
And or they could add a second 

1026
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:56,000
round running back who would 
probably just just completely 

1027
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,560
replace Estimate because that's 
like the archetype of guys in 

1028
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,400
the second round is kind of 
Estimate but better. 

1029
00:56:01,720 --> 00:56:04,520
But once you start to get in the
third round, like what if they 

1030
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,960
add an RJ Harvey, you know, and 
it's like, and now Jaleel's the 

1031
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,600
dude who's out of a job. 
And so it it is a deep running 

1032
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,880
back class, taking some of the 
handcuff types as like a little 

1033
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,080
shakier than you know, it. 
Would it be in in like last 

1034
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,840
year's class? 
But given the way the Broncos 

1035
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,000
have run a committee, as long as
you avoid some of like the clear

1036
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:27,920
landmines, the Genti Hampton 
type of landmines, then estimate

1037
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,640
feels like he he could be pretty
good at very, very little cost. 

1038
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,680
And it's correlated. 
Yeah, I mean, if you, if you can

1039
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:39,080
bank assist a season where he's 
just like sneaking his way into 

1040
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,960
like six goal line touchdowns at
this price or something like 

1041
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,240
you're you're you're pretty 
stoked. 

1042
00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:46,600
And preferably two of them come 
in the same game in week 15 

1043
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:47,840
through 17. 
That sounds great. 

1044
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,640
Yeah, sign me up. 
Cool. 

1045
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,080
Yeah. 
I'm, you know, this is what 

1046
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:57,320
always happens to me. 
I've been slow trying to, you 

1047
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,720
know, moderate my best ball 
drafting this early. 

1048
00:56:59,720 --> 00:57:02,280
And then you you start doing 
more of these and the combine 

1049
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,760
hits and then you start talking 
about CLV and price movement. 

1050
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,880
Next thing you know, you're 
like, maybe I'd just enter a few

1051
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,400
slots, you know, just a few, you
know, not that bad, just a few 

1052
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,280
more slows. 
I was hoping you were going to 

1053
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,680
name this team Tet and the 
Quartet, by the way. 

1054
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,200
Tet and the Quartet. 
I know. 

1055
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,160
Yeah. 
We need the. 

1056
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:19,520
It's like the. 
Yeah. 

1057
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,520
Tet and the the Quartet. 
I like it. 

1058
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:22,760
All right, All right. 
I'll make the change. 

1059
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,560
I'll make the change. 
I don't. 

1060
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,760
Care about the. 
No, I I like this in the. 

1061
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,040
OK, hang on, we're going to go 
227. 

1062
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,840
I mean, I'll never forget. 
I'll never forget that this was 

1063
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,640
Tet in the quartet. 
There you go. 

1064
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,440
The new ship chasing jam band. 
Tet in the quartet. 

1065
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:44,720
I think I had another. 
Yeah. 

1066
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,920
Getting both Mcmillan's too is a
nice little fun thing. 

1067
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,520
Now double McMillan. 
Double McMillan. 

1068
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,120
I, you know what? 
No one you know what? 

1069
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,760
You know how we, we finally 
things have actually normalized.

1070
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,120
It was around this time last 
year that everyone was saying 

1071
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:05,760
who is the rookie that ship 
chasing is going to mush with 

1072
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,480
the curse. 
Like there was, you know, Davis 

1073
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,160
was loading all of his names 
this year. 

1074
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,960
I haven't heard that talk yet, 
which means people are either 

1075
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,800
too terrified or the curse has 
officially been broken. 

1076
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,040
Yeah, I don't know if it has, 
but I think it's been we put a 

1077
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,200
dent in the curse. 
I'll say that I'm not 100% sure 

1078
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:29,280
the curse is is has been 
vanquished, but I feel better 

1079
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,920
about last year was it seemed 
for some reason it was just 

1080
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,520
followed the struggle. 
I think maybe we didn't draft 

1081
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,920
early enough or something. 
I was just like unclear who we 

1082
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,680
have, I mean. 
Well, this this year it could 

1083
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,840
formally. 
Because The thing is, is we had 

1084
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,800
to, you know, with, with Gretch 
too. 

1085
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,040
When, when you add an extra 
person, we all have to arrive at

1086
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,160
a consensus too of a player we 
all love, which is adding that 

1087
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:55,960
extra wrinkle you and I could 
end up getting on a player 

1088
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,520
quickly that we can't stop 
drafting over and over again. 

1089
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,160
We shall see. 
We shall. 

1090
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,320
My God, that means he's he's 
playing. 

1091
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,720
That actually is we we should 
strongly consider Travis Hunter 

1092
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,920
only playing wide receiver in 
the clip when he plays 

1093
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,280
cornerback. 
I'm pretty sure the the ship 

1094
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:22,040
chasing curse has been so strong
that it has forced some of our 

1095
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,080
players to convert positionally.
It honestly has. 

1096
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:29,240
It's not the first time. 
I know I like if we had been 

1097
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,720
doing ship chasing way back 
when, I'm sure we would have had

1098
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,120
a Jordan Matthews clip and then 
he would have converted to tight

1099
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,120
end. 
We definitely would have. 

1100
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,440
We definitely would have. 
What do you got going on? 

1101
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:45,000
I I, I mentioned I listened to 
you guys had a little big board 

1102
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:49,840
pre combine round table, this 
this fabled proton pod. 

1103
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,360
Is this just never happening? 
No, it's gonna happen. 

1104
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:56,720
But the combine got in the way 
and yeah, my, my travels and 

1105
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,840
stuff got in the way. 
So we will. 

1106
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,160
I will be talking to Proton at 
some point. 

1107
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,840
And we're going to be, like I 
said, Michael Dudner is going to

1108
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,600
have an article coming out 
probably tomorrow. 

1109
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,880
That's that's the plan. 
And yeah, it's really good. 

1110
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,320
Miss Price, players in 
basketball right now talks to 

1111
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,960
some of the guys we were talking
about in in this draft, 

1112
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,320
actually. 
And I've got my prospects stuff 

1113
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,840
ready to, it's kind of, it's 
kind of like, you know, in the 

1114
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:33,680
I've, I've loaded it in for post
combine so that I can write up, 

1115
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,480
you know, I got to tweak it with
the combine stuff. 

1116
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,280
But after that, it's going to 
start going out there, probably 

1117
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,800
start with the quarterbacks and 
then roll out to the other 

1118
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,600
positions. 
So post combine, look for those 

1119
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,840
dynasty rankings, basketball 
rankings all over at 

1120
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,840
legendaryepisode.com. 
And we got the sidekick going 

1121
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,680
for 100 bucks a month right now 
if you're interested in checking

1122
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:56,040
that out. 
Yep, we drafted today with leg 

1123
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,640
up rankings in the sidekick in 
there. 

1124
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,720
Super valuable, especially if 
you're doing a bunch of slow 

1125
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,240
drafts and you need to get in 
there and quickly get 

1126
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,440
reoriented. 
And remember that you drafted Bo

1127
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,560
Nicks and should stack him with 
Devon Vaile. 

1128
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,880
Highly recommend some other 
housekeeping stuff. 

1129
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,240
I'll have basketball breakfast 
and then ADP chasing on Monday. 

1130
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,080
No ship chasing next week. 
Can't offer you a ship chasing, 

1131
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,160
but I can maybe offer the people
a photo of you and me out to 

1132
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,840
dinner for Omakase. 
That's going to be the trade off

1133
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,040
of content for next week since 
I'm going to be I'm going to be 

1134
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,200
in San Diego, but we are going 
to meet up and go to dinner and 

1135
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,840
I'm very much looking. 
Forward to I know me too me. 

1136
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,400
Too. 
So yeah, no ship chasing next 

1137
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,040
week. 
We'll be back in the saddle 

1138
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:39,880
after that with our usual 
Thursdays. 

1139
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,480
And I think when we come back, I
mean that's when we're going to 

1140
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,160
be in the heart of kind of 
dynasty season. 

1141
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:50,000
We got to get our our crew back 
together obviously for the mock 

1142
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,920
draft, get some guest 
appearances from JJ Ron, the 

1143
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,480
Rotovis guys, lots of guests 
that we got to get swinging on 

1144
01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:01,800
through all right appreciate all
of you guys hanging out in the 

1145
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,320
chat. 
If you guys want to become 

1146
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:08,200
YouTube members, you can unlock 
the exclusive access to the ship

1147
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,040
chasing discord that is housed 
within the deposit Kingdom 

1148
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:12,640
discord. 
We have our own private channel 

1149
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,320
in there. 
There's an FAQ about how to sync

1150
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,280
your YouTube account with your 
discord account and then that 

1151
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:22,240
Channel will pop up magically. 
There's also a survey in there. 

1152
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,040
I've been referencing this on a 
few shows. 

1153
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,920
It is pinned. 
We're trying to nail down the 

1154
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,360
dates for the 2025 ship chasing 
meet up. 

1155
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,800
Looking like we are going to be 
in Florida sometime in early 

1156
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:37,560
August, but we will still love 
some input on that and shout out

1157
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,200
to Charlie and Chris G who are 
kind of helping us behind the 

1158
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,720
scenes to get that organized and
get that rolling. 

1159
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,840
Got some fun stuff planned for 
this summer. 

1160
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:50,400
All right, appreciate you all. 
We'll see you guys next time on 

1161
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:51,680
ship Chasing Peace.
