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Hi there, I'm Mike Shope. 
Welcome back to wet and windy 

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Buffalo ADP chasing coming your 
way. 

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We had football that mattered in
week 17 five days ago. 

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The week was so spread out. 
Before I forget to say it, I'd 

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like to thank the Houston Texans
for their service to the best 

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ball tournament community. 
We'll recap the week and the 

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season. 
We'll talk playoff drafts, 

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trends and strategies there with
the movement from Week 17. 

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And again, we'll look ahead to 
2025 because after tonight's 

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game, we're all going to be 
wanting to champ at the bit for 

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next year. 
I'm Mike Shope with our heroes 

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Pat Carane and Davis Manic. 
This is ADP chasing December 

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30th, 2024. 
ADP chasing is for when you 

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watch ship chasing you go these 
guys are just football guys and 

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the targets for outrun leagues. 
That's going to be really nice 

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actually, back in if it's 
Austinette. 

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Compared to our crystal ball. 
Close your eyes, you know all 

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your entries are going to lose 
anyway. 

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Yeah, that's fair. 
This is a douche von show. 

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It's. 
Anti cabal. 

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It's anti the best ball thought 
leader. 

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I'm obviously lying to some 
degree because like I have a lot

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of both of these guys. 
It's the most disgusting thing. 

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You can make. 
But man. 

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Before we get our hands too 
dirty on the season that's about

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to end, Pat. 
So a buddy and a buddy of mine 

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and I have been talking about 
going to Bill's Patriots this 

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week. 
And that's of course, Lord Pete 

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Week 18. 
Well, I mean, this is kind of 

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like for him, the one week he 
can do it. 

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It's 1010 minutes from home and 
I've kind of wanted to see him 

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and I've got cousins there. 
So will we see Drake May? 

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Probably Jerrod Mayo seems like 
he like, just woke up from a nap

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and has to be reminded that he's
the Patriots head coach. 

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Like that's kind of the level 
of, you know, hands on. 

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I mean, he literally announced 
that they were going to bend for

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Stevenson and then he wasn't 
benched. 

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And I think he just like, it was
like an oversight. 

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He's like, oh, right, we're 
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he he is just like, it is 
unbelievable. 

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Kind of the level of like, you 
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they've talked about like making
it's like a real indicator of 

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success at the head coach level 
because it's a different thing 

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than being a defensive guy or an
offensive guy is, is attention 

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to detail that the best head 
coaches are like obsessive in 

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their attention to detail. 
Imagine one of these imagine 

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Sean Mcbay for getting to 
venture a guy after he announced

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he was going to venture a guy. 
It's just like it's it's 

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unbelievable. 
So I would if I were you guys, 

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if you, you know, you're rooting
for the Bills, you want to see 

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the Bills look good. 
I what, what better possible 

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game could there be to go see 
them look good? 

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They're going to look great. 
I know, I know the Patriots put 

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up a fight last time, but I'm, 
I'm personally hoping they fully

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quit. 
They fully quit on Gerard Mayo. 

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Get him out of there. 
There's an opening here. 

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Patriots do the right thing. 
I think you'll see Josh Allen 

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for three plays so we can keep 
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then that's it. 
They've clinched the two. 

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Raheem Morris is on too, to talk
about attention to detail. 

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I think to your last point, but 
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hit in the head on Saturday. 
I'd like that's it. 

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Why would he come back in the 
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You know, you've got an excuse 
now. 

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And now they have the number one
pick, Davis, which was not 

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expected with the Giants and 
Raiders. 

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Shout out. 
Shout out, Drew Lock. 

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Yeah, Good. 
Good work. 

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Good work from Lock. 
I mean, the Patriots are somehow

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going to bungle this. 
What actually, I mean, this is 

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what they're going to do. 
They're just not going to trade 

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the pick. 
They're just going to take Ted 

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McMillan with the first overall 
pick and just not trade it, just

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totally just not get anything 
out of it. 

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Does like that that's. 
The guy they would have taken, 

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yeah. 
Take, take the guy they would 

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have taken at 4:00 and just take
him at one, Yeah. 

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Will there be a market Davis 
like for that pick though what 

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what kind of interest we've had 
years like this where? 

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See, This is why people on 
Twitter, man, they just, they, 

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they're like, dude, Cam Ward 
sucks, Shudder, dude, shudder's 

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terrible. 
You guys are living in an 

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alternate reality, man. 
You just, you can't tell John 

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Mara, who just had to watch 2 
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Lock, Tommy DeVito and say, 
yeah, there's two like fun 

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quarterbacks. 
They like got invited to the 

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Heisman. 
And actually we're just not, 

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we're just going to take a 
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We're just going to we're just 
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a tackle. 
You good with that, John? 

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John Maher is like he's like 82 
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He's like near death and he's 
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year of this. 
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so Cam Ward in my early past, 
I've been I don't he does not 

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look good. 
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with those people on Twitter. 
They're saying this is a really 

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bad. 
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it's a bad quarterback class. 
I was listening to Connor 

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Rodgers and Trevor sitcom. 
I break it down and and Connor 

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was being pretty candid that 
he's like, oh, it's not not my 

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favorite quarterback class, but 
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will talk themselves into Cam 
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also some teams that are pretty 
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So I'm guessing there. 
Is one I'm kind of into Shudur. 

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I I'm, I'm honestly like I'm I'm
open to it. 

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I'm, well, it's, I'm open to 
Shudur. 

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It's major markets. 
Boston, NY, Vegas, you know, I 

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don't know the teams of the some
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like the sex appeal of the whole
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Well, I think they also, you 
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have two teams that didn't 
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when it seemed like maybe they 
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their way like the Giants would 
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could. 
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they were going to get tenets 
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in. 
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weight, like as an NFL 
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like that long of a shelf life. 
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I mean the well, the Raiders 
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The Giants probably keep their 
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I don't know. 
You got to make moves and and 

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ownership is not going to want 
to just sit around and and throw

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in away another year. 
They just threw away a year. 

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They're not going to want to do 
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I I think both those teams would
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quarterback would be my guess. 
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right? 
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win, but they're hopeless, too. 
What a team. 

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What? 
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What do you do with What do you 
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What a team. 
The Jets, The Jets are probably 

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bummed that Drew Aller back at 
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They were like that. 
That would have been nice. 

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Right. 
Yeah, and and Quinn Ewers is, is

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maybe going to stay, probably 
going to stay. 

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Do you do you do like a second 
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Oh. 
Mill Row dude. 

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If Michael Pennix is the 13th 
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probably ends up being a first 
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Right. 
You guys up being like mid, mid 

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first? 
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to, you know, yeah. 
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I think you're right. 
That's an interesting facet of 

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this. 
I don't know about you 2, but so

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much of the draft discourse last
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to go was like no way Pennex, no
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Knicks seems fine and Pennex 
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year you might have the 
juxtaposition of a considered 

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weaker class. 
But what did this year approve, 

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right? 
I mean the league sort of is 

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always looking back and what 
worked and what didn't work. 6 

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quarterbacks went in the first 
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everybody else seems kind of 
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And so that might justify what 
you're saying, Davis, like push 

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guys up. 
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learned, Corinne. 
You finish your thought first, 

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because this is kind of a 
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You go. 
I think this was a really, 

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really good quarterback class, 
like an accident, like pop in a 

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big way in my stuff. 
But but Nick's did and then May 

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and Daniels and Caleb May was 
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And then the other those guys 
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And who am I forgetting? 
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The McCarthy? 
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He was kind of at the Pennix 
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out better than him. 
But they were all like, yeah, 

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these are these are fine first 
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Shadour kind of comes out at 
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Words actually a little worse. 
And so I could see like Milro is

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all about draft capital. 
Like I think if he's a, if he's 

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a first round pick, I'm 
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If he's a second round pick, it 
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But it I'm like, is this last 
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picket year where we had Desmond
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Malik Willis fall to 3rd, we had
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Like I need to know what the NFL
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the NFL says no, Milro's the 
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like the the two or the one and 
you know, and wards the two were

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the one, then like, all right, 
you know, they're they're going 

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to start, they're going to get 
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They're going to be like, I'm 
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look like a little Daniel Jonesy
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But you know, whatever, let's 
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capital. 
But I'm very, very curious to 

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see that if we get that stamp of
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wasn't that long ago where the 
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entire quarterback class. 
Can he pick? 

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That's the only first rounder. 
So I'll tell you the big 

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difference I think you have to 
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Shudder and just quarterback 
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just not that bad to be 23 
anymore or 24. 

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You know, like it used to be 
basically huge red flag like 23 

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year old quarterback who wasn't 
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That guy's bust rate is 100%. 
Like literal, literal just like 

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guaranteed bust. 
Burrough was kind of the first 

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one to, to break out of there, 
although he was better as a 

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junior than than like going back
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But Jane Daniels and Bo Nix were
like awful college quarterbacks.

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Like like straight, like, I 
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transfer. 
Bo Nix was like at Auburn. 

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Like we're just like watching Bo
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Like this guy cannot quarterback
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So the NIL money and then the 
extra year of eligibility 

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granted from COVID stuff. 
I mean, Pat, we're we're going 

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to talk about this when we start
doing dynasty stuff for wide 

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receivers. 
Like you just can't. 

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A four year guy is not a four 
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anymore. 
But also like the extra reps 

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think about how many reps these 
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other guy. 
I think you see it. 

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I think you see it with Caleb, 
right? 

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I think you see the the reps 
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I mean, this the fucking sax 
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I mean, yeah. 
They're not good. 

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It's, it's just like terrible. 
It's like, well, OK, at the age 

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that Caleb Williams was doing 
that, Jane Daniels was going 

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like 4:00 and 9:00 at Arizona 
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Yeah. 
And I do think quarterback, like

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obviously you don't want to be 
Brandon Whedon and be like 

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literally 27. 
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a position where if you show 
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I'm I'm very excited about that.
But if you're, if it like if 

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you're 22 versus 23, I don't 
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Like if you can do it, you can 
do it. 

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I think it's one of those 
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degree of difficulty to be an 
NFL quarterback. 

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And if it takes you an extra 
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you come into the league and you
can do it like great. 

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You know, especially for best 
ball purposes. 

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Like we're looking for guys who 
can play the position and aren't

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going to like fall flat on their
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And maybe they don't have like 
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4 years compared to a guy who's 
like lighting it up as a 19 year

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old in college. 
But like, so, So what, you know,

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we, we draft a year at a time. 
It's more of a dynasty thing. 

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I think when you think about 
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What else is 23? 
What else is always changing 

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too, you know, like sort of the 
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played. 
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revolution and now we want, you 
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at 15 and one. 
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short here and there for most 
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And you have if that even if 
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Mayfield and even Goff, you 
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right now. 
I think in the league, we all 

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kind of buy into the development
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if we as an organization can 
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So we're going to put them in 
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hopefully it works out. 
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of, you know, 2930 year old 
quarterbacks who look fine, even

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really good at the position. 
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the overall point here, which I 
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and you have guys like a Lance 
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It it definitely is. 
It definitely like you would 

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definitely prefer these guys to 
dominate college football at 19.

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It's just a very strong signal 
that a guy can play. 

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But like, it's no longer, I 
think, disqualifying. 

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Yeah, that's exactly how I would
put it. 

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And I think in terms of the the 
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don't really develop players. 
Like players get to the league 

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and they basically develop 
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develop. 
Like if you're like, if you show

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up to an NFL team and you're 
like, train me. 

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You're screwed. 
They're they're they're. 

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That's not how it works. 
Chase Chase Brown and Andre 

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Yoshi Vos had to go find. 
I just know, 'cause I talked to 

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the guy who trained them, had to
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He didn't seek them out. 
The team didn't put him in touch

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with this guy. 
They had to go find, like, seek 

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this guy out and go work out at 
his facility in the offseason. 

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And the Bengals were like, oh, 
OK. 

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That's great. 
That's great. 

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Yeah, we're glad you did that. 
Maybe not fun now, we weren't 

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going to before. 
Exactly. 

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Literally and it's crazy. 
It's like, I mean, think about 

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you guys should be dumping 
because there's no salary cap on

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training, there's no salary cap.
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restrictions as to what you can 
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the offseason and things like 
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But yeah, like, I mean, it's 
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about football that they're 
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But like, teams don't practice 
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definitely ranks at full speed 
anymore. 

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But even like Tony Gonzalez 
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like he was like he, he 
realized, I think after like his

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first year or during his first 
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no one's going to teach me how 
to like do all the stuff I need 

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to do now. 
And so he like had to go get 

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someone to like help him do 
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So are, I mean, it's like, are 
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a big is a big part of it. 
And so, yeah, I mean, if you're 

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like, I mean, not so dense about
the Patriots again, but they're 

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getting blown out and like Javon
Baker like barely played in that

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game. 
Like they're not playing Polk. 

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Like, I think these guys are 
probably busted. 

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No, it is. 
It's that's so funny that 

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they're just playing like 
Demario Douglas. 

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This like 29. 
Year old. 

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Slot yeah born instead of just 
being like go let's see if we 

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got something here let's just. 
See if we got anything, 

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anything. 
Let's see if like this is now, 

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this is a preseason game now and
we're going to figure out if we 

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should even have you on the 
roster next. 

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Like, I'm not saying like if you
played them, they'd develop into

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something special, but like 
learn about these guys at least.

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Like no, we we're going to play 
to to win down 30 points in a 

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meaningless game in week, week 
17. 

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Like they just they're like anti
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They seem to they would do what 
you if you're trying not to 

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develop players, you would you 
would do with these coaches. 

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Given all that thanks to given 
all that thanks to Hunter Henry 

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for his 0.0 in the fantasy 
finals and the 40 to seven loss,

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I know. 
God. 

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How about how about Josh Allen 
for this quickly? 

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So I think the person outside of
Allen himself that gets the most

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credit for his, if 
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is Jordan Palmer, Carson 
Palmer's brother, who he went to

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work with and it's feet and it's
timing. 

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And it's sort of like kind of 
growing up at the position 

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because the Bills, one reason 
why I bet against Allen like a 

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lot of people did when he was 
drafted is the Bills were, as 

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you'll know, absolutely not the 
organization you'd want, you 

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know, a young quarterback 
prospect to land on. 

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They just hired McDermott. 
They had 17 years in a row 

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without a playoff season. 
Like they were anything but. 

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It was Rex Ryan and ground and 
Pound. 

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They're anything but a forward 
thinking team. 

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They get to Devol, comes in with
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they make that work. 
But Alan has it, has to go 

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through him and it does and 
suddenly he's great. 

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So another guy maybe in this 
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Was such a shitty college 
player. 

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It's like really unbelievable 
that that is that he became who 

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he became. 
He does some of the stuff I look

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at that's like looks at fantasy,
you know, fantasy potential. 

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He actually does pretty well cuz
he, cuz he threw a lot of deep 

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passes. 
He threw, he had like a lot of 

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big time deep throws, did like 
stuff that's really good for 

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fantasy in between, you know, 
some some plays he'd won back 

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and stuff. 
He just had. 

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He just had no he. 
Always had a lot of fantasy 

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potential. 
He had no, he had no feel. 

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And then he got feel, which is 
just like, very hard to do, 

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yeah. 
Right. 

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And it wasn't because Sean 
McDermott like, sat down and 

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like, trained. 
Him. 

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No. 
He he got, he got an outside 

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guy, which is what all these 
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outside guy. 
These guys all have. 

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They're guys they work with. 
Does I don't actually know. 

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Does does Mahomes have an 
outside guy? 

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I I really I have no idea. 
I don't know. 

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I don't know, God, Could you 
imagine? 

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If he doesn't, then maybe you 
promise he doesn't have one now.

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Jake Steve Farm was the only guy
I can think of ever see him hang

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with. 
You know, he's the only guy I 

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think he's. 
Let me go. 

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He was. 
He was an athlete's kid. 

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Like I'm sure he's having like 
the same quarterback coach 

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forever and we just don't even 
know anything about. 

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I got. 
He has to, yeah. 

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I would like to spend some more 
time on quarterbacks, but I 

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wouldn't want anybody watching 
or listening to think that we're

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just not going to talk about the
season as a whole now that it's 

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almost over either. 
You guys want to tell us where 

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you stand here going into the 
final game? 

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Broke. 
Well. 

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Yeah, yeah, it didn't. 
My, my, my final teams are not 

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going to take anything down. 
We shady, shady advice who helps

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us out at legendary upside with 
the sidekick and everything. 

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He is in the five by five. 
I think if like Jamir Gibbs 

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scores like 70 then he'll he'll 
win that but otherwise? 

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Too bad they don't need the 
game. 

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Yeah. 
But Mike, I did want to say, you

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know, really appreciate 
everything you're bringing to 

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the table as the new host and 
everything, but pretty 

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disappointed we don't have AT 
Higgins slide this this week. 

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I know, I know, TT Higgins 
becoming a a a a meme and then 

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being the guy you absolutely had
to had in in in. 

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The must have player week 17, 
yeah. 

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I appreciate you prefacing that 
with a compliment toward me as 

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if I have anything to do with 
any of it. 

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But you know, I I appreciate the
sentiment there. 

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Yes, that worked out the Bengals
teams. 

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The Bengals were like maybe the 
story of the the league in 

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fantasy in best ball this year, 
all of it right to the end, the 

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deep end Invitational. 
Let me tell you, Yep. 

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Chase Brown injuring himself to 
avoid scoring a touchdown. 

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If I could just kind of GIF my 
season, it would be my most 

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drafted player that I had on 
every finals team. 

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Three dynasty finals, 2 home 
league finals, injuring himself,

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removing himself from the game 
that went to overtime so that T 

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Higgins could get more fucking 
points. 

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That would basically be that'd 
basically be my season. 

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I mean, I've never I was I was, 
I was out at a bar with my wife 

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and her friends like at a like a
birthday thing. 

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And I'm just like fuming and I'm
trying to explain to my wife 

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what happened and she's like. 
Don't be an asshole. 

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Like it's not that it's not that
big. 

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And I'm like, you literally 
don't understand what just I 

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just got a nuclear. 
Bomb. 

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You hate it. 
You hate hate these things too. 

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We're all used to it. 
But when they're just really 

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dumb, like if the Bengals kicker
doesn't miss the previous kick, 

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like that's just it. 
Maybe they kick then if he 

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doesn't have, if he hadn't just 
missed one. 

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And you have the Falcons last 
night who don't go for two and 

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they still get the ball back and
decide not to use timeouts, 

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which made no sense. 
And that sets up for ertz same 

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final score both games. 
Overtime covers for the favorite

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with touchdowns that really. 
It's a tie game, just score the 

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touchdown. 
Chase. 

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It's a tie game, just score the 
touchdown. 

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Guys, I had a lot of practice 
sliding by the looks of it. 

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No. 
Did want to. 

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Did want to note that if a Colts
tight end had three touchdowns, 

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that would have been even. 
Better Will Mallory Will Mallory

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didn't play in that game 
yesterday, so there was a chance

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it could have consolidated to 
only four guys that. 

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Would've been too good. 
Well, you know, Congrats to 

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anybody that's that's killing 
it. 

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I'm in the ship chasing discord 
and a lot of the people in there

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are are new to me, but are you 
guys seeing anything in there 

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where tonight could get 
exciting? 

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Yeah, the the guy who finished 
third behind Korain in best Ball

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Mania 3 is currently winning the
puppy 3C Nice, OK, nice. 

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He is fading. 
I think like reasonable games 

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from Lions guys, but not like 
like locks. 

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So you know, a lot of a lot of 
ways. 

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One of the guys in in Pete's 
discord is winning the 

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eliminator right now. 
I think he's fading 9.2 from 

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Kittle to to ship the 
eliminator. 

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Yeah, my my stuff. 
You know what's really good is I

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actually Karen did get Zach Ertz
to a final after after spending 

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the last night, I did get Zach 
Ertz to a final with with Jayden

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Daniels. 
You want to know my running 

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backs on that team? 
Samaj Samaj P Ryan's points are 

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counting. 
Samaj P Ryan outscored. 

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Seamos. 
Seamos Chase Brown, Rico 

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Dowdell, I mean it's the 
slappiest slapper room of all 

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time. 
You know, Chase Brown, Rico 

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Dowdell and and I got Justin 
Jefferson through to to every 

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final as well. 
So shout out to him for scoring 

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less points than Xavier Worthy. 
Xavier Worthy outscored Jamar 

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Chase in the the three-week 
Sprint. 

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00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,400
I have a team in the Flock. 
It's the Flock 4, I think. 

448
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,360
I think it was the only one I 
did with Barclay and Jefferson 

449
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,680
and we're and and Mahomes and 
we're sitting a cool 81st out of

450
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,200
100 here going. 
But I have Piersol down by 90 so

451
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,440
you never know. 
It is it is funny like so if you

452
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,920
think about ADP this year, like 
what what was kind of the 

453
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,680
biggest, I mean, Higgins became 
the meme that he did other than 

454
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,760
Sam's D paid for him. 
It's that like we're drafting 

455
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,080
wide receiver twos before 
running back ones, wide receiver

456
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,920
twos on their own team. 
It is funny that like Deponte, 

457
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,400
Smith and T Higgins go nuts in 
Week 17. 

458
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,480
Saquon. 
Barkley, Jaylen. 

459
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,600
Naylor, Jaylen. 
Naylor, Naylor, yeah, yeah. 

460
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,320
So like how I mean, obviously 
the running backs are going to 

461
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,080
move up in price and Saquon will
be very high. 

462
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:48,240
But like, it didn't feel like a 
Week 17 that sent us back to our

463
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,240
respective corners, at least a 
little bit. 

464
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:51,920
You. 
Know the whole I think the whole

465
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,080
playoffs sent everyone back to 
their corners. 

466
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,680
A little. 
I think the the running backs 

467
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,920
were too low and they'll move 
up, but I don't know that they 

468
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,920
move up much past where they 
were in 2023. 

469
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,480
What do you guys think? 
The big, the big difference 

470
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,200
Karen, is going to be that the 
Camara, Connor analogs, the old 

471
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,160
guys on those guys are 
expensive. 

472
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,400
Again, you just are not getting 
like assuming James Conner comes

473
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,920
back to the Cardinals. 
And expensive. 

474
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,520
Oh, I, I think, I think like 
four or five turn for James 

475
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,400
Conner. 
And we'll all have none of them.

476
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,040
Oh I'm not super none like. 
Nixon like like. 

477
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,640
Like somehow, somehow I will 
have less of the old guys next 

478
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,640
year if that happens that I did 
this year and a year where I 

479
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,640
also had like none of them. 
Like, you know, it's just 

480
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:45,400
because just because Derrick 
Henry and Josh Jacobs, although 

481
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,840
these guys like literally 
mattered none in the fantasy 

482
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,320
playoffs. 
So like, just because these guys

483
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:54,000
ran hot on rushing touchdowns 
for one season doesn't mean that

484
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,200
they're not 29 anymore. 
Derrick Henry is going to be 31 

485
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,400
next year and he is going to go 
ahead of where he went this 

486
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,160
year. 
I I'm sorry dude, I just, I 

487
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,360
can't, I can't do it. 
And there's McCaffrey to 

488
00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:07,640
consider. 
McCaffrey. 

489
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,240
Yeah, I think I'm back in on 
McCaffrey because he's going to,

490
00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:12,760
he's you're going to get a 
discount on him. 

491
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,160
Like, I mean, obviously he's not
going to be the one-on-one. 

492
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,040
So by definition, but I think 
you get like, is he going to be 

493
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,560
like the 1-2 turn? 
Like where does McCaffrey go? 

494
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,840
You're taking Bijan over him, I 
think. 

495
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,480
Bijan is RB one I think and man.
Yeah, you're right. 

496
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,360
I think he probably is RB1. 
Last night wasn't that game. 

497
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:36,520
He's going to run for 250 yards.
Every play is 8 yards downfield 

498
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:42,600
untouched and then they stopped.
I don't, I don't, I don't get 

499
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:47,040
it. 
I I needed, I needed a, a Bijan 

500
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:52,120
game to win my home league for 
the first time ever in like in 

501
00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:55,240
like in like 20 years. 
So I, it was good. 

502
00:25:55,240 --> 00:26:00,920
I mean, I, I've got good room. 
I'm up, I'm up 40 ish with Goff 

503
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:06,440
versus Laporta and Jamo. 
So I'm I'm pretty, I'm pretty 

504
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,000
good. 
But I would have liked, I would 

505
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,400
have liked more Bijan. 
Obviously I do. 

506
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:15,080
McCaffrey is pretty interesting 
though, because the the same 

507
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:20,120
thing that is like he's going to
be an old guy. 

508
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:25,160
The only thing that really 
differentiates him from Henry 

509
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,560
and Barkley in terms of like the
age range stuff is that he 

510
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,960
catches passes and he gets like 
every touchdown. 

511
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,680
I mean, it's so funny Got he did
well. 

512
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,920
Kind of. 
Yeah, the, The funny thing is 

513
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,240
like the the Barkley thing is, 
is hilarious, man. 

514
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,000
Barkley is going to end up 
scoring fewer fantasy points per

515
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,040
game than Dalvin Cook did. 
And Dalvin Cook's really good 

516
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,320
season and he's going to break 
the goddamn rushing record and 

517
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,320
he's going to average like 22 
points per game, which is just 

518
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,600
like. 
It is, so it won't be quite that

519
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,240
much. 
I think he might be like 21. 

520
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,040
It's a little, I'm not even know
what is it like because he 

521
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,320
doesn't really catch passes and 
then he's gotten look, if you're

522
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,960
getting sniped at the goal line 
by or vultured by Kenny Pickett.

523
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,400
Kenny Pickett who had to take a 
pain killing injection in his 

524
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,480
ribs at halftime and they still 
ran the tush push and Kenny 

525
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,240
Pickett had broken ribs. 
Back-to-back after he got ruled 

526
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,280
down when he was in on the one 
play Like, all right, I'll get 

527
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,840
away with this. 
Nope, same thing. 

528
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,240
Obviously it's frustrating and 
Barkley is like way good enough 

529
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,600
to like take those plays himself
and it feels like it shouldn't 

530
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,600
be happening. 
But was there any reason I think

531
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,800
it won't happen next year? 
You know, so you know, we talked

532
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,520
about. 
Literally, literally none. 

533
00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:45,320
Literally, obviously he was a 
smash where he went this year, 

534
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:50,200
but when he goes up into like 
the one O 2 range, because I 

535
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,200
agree with you, I think I think 
Dijon might settle as the one O 

536
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,760
1 ultimately. 
I mean, there's not no one's 

537
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,280
going to be anti Bichon. 
It might take a minute, but I 

538
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:04,480
think I I bet, I bet he go gets 
up to the one O 1 and then 

539
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,160
Barkley maybe one O 2. 
I. 

540
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,080
There's there's. 
No way, you guys. 

541
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,200
You guys are giving the 
community way too much credit. 

542
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,960
You think he's just locked in 
one O 1? 

543
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:19,000
Barkley is not only is he one O 
1, you know how on underdog it's

544
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,400
like 1.2 which means sometimes 
the guy doesn't always go for 

545
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,680
like 1.80. 
He doesn't he's going to be 

546
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:29,120
1.01. 
He's going first every I 

547
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:31,600
obviously assuming he doesn't 
get injured or anything. 

548
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,560
He he like dude who? 
Is going to be. 

549
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,960
If, if this is a if this is a 
question I can ask, who is going

550
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,360
to be making that argument in 
this space for the next six 

551
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,760
months or eight months? 
Like who is who is going to be 

552
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,760
pushing Barkley? 
Because this point you're making

553
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,240
to me seems pretty obvious. 
Like, I don't know, why would I 

554
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,840
want him? 
Yeah, over. 

555
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,920
I'm not, I don't think I would 
be taking. 

556
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,280
I would just take Bijon. 
Like if you're telling me I can 

557
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,840
get like double Bijon next year,
I think I'm doing that. 

558
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,400
I mean, I know I wouldn't say 
like that's like, you know, what

559
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,040
everyone should do or anything, 
but like if my personal stuff, 

560
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,560
like if I could and maybe I'd go
not double, but but if you're 

561
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,320
telling me I can get extra Bijon
and he's not because he's not 

562
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,560
the one O 1, he's the one O 2. 
Let's say Gibbs. 

563
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,000
People are also making the case.
I mean, I think depending on 

564
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,720
where Montgomery ends up, Gibbs 
is in a conversation too. 

565
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,200
And then these these wide 
receivers are all very 

566
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,760
attractive. 
So I don't know, I mean, Barkley

567
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,280
just going to have his backers, 
but I would push back that he's 

568
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,920
going to be like the locked in. 
No one ever goes ahead of him 

569
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,760
one O 1 because yeah, who's 
making who's making that case? 

570
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,400
I don't know. 
It's not going to be you. 

571
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,320
Well, it's. 
Not going to be me. 

572
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,120
I, I would say I want to get 
back to quarterbacks here guys, 

573
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,560
if, if you don't mind. 
So I was watching Mike Clay 

574
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,800
yesterday morning and he made a 
point about next year's drafts 

575
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,280
on Fantasy Focus. 
He's like, all right, who's the 

576
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,880
quarterback? 
6 And so he played it out. 

577
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,040
We're looking at this year, the 
top five quarterbacks were 

578
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,520
pretty chalky. 
Ultimately. 

579
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,080
Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Jalen
Hurts, Burrow, Jaden Daniels 

580
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,480
wasn't chalky, but he gets in 
the top five. 

581
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,480
Mahomes and Murray 
disappointments at 10:00 and 

582
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,480
11:00. 
I went through the whole league 

583
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,200
this morning and counted how 
many teams. 

584
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,920
I think we have 100% certainty 
we know who their quarterback is

585
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,080
going to be. 
Week 1, 2025 account, 23 teams. 

586
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,400
This is more a point toward the 
the rookies topic from earlier, 

587
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,840
but I've got 10 in the AFC, not 
including Indianapolis or 

588
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,480
Pittsburgh. 
There's at least some 

589
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,480
uncertainty there. 
NFCI think the only three teams 

590
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,080
in the NFC where we don't know 
who their starting quarterback 

591
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,360
next year will be are the 
Vikings. 

592
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,840
Think, and then New Orleans and 
the Giants. 

593
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,440
Last year we had the Cousins 
speculation and what'll happen 

594
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,000
with Justin Fields and then the 
Steelers. 

595
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,640
Then you had six first round 
rookies. 

596
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,600
There just are not a lot of 
openings this year, which is one

597
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,840
part of the point to to try to 
tear these guys for next year 

598
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,640
with the chalk quarterbacks. 
Because what it was a New Year's

599
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,080
resolution point, Pat, on 
Fantasy Focus, where Mike made 

600
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,760
this point and he said his 
resolution for next year is to 

601
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,280
draft a top five QB. 
Because after five, who knows? 

602
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,160
Does that feel right to you? 
No, that seems terrible. 

603
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,800
It seems like the exact opposite
way to play it. 

604
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,000
That that is, that is the that's
like the worst way to play 

605
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,360
fantasy is, Oh, I feel uncertain
about this thing. 

606
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:43,560
So I'm just going to get warm 
and cozy in my in my, my top 

607
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,600
five quarterback blanket. 
You're not leaning into the 

608
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,160
uncertainty, are you? 
At all. 

609
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,680
No, you, I think, yeah, you want
to lean into the uncertainty. 

610
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,160
To an extent, I mean, I think 
with best ball, like, you know, 

611
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,320
you could say like, look, Daniel
Jones didn't really hurt you 

612
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,920
that much. 
He did enough to to get you 

613
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,160
there. 
But like I had a team with with 

614
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:07,960
Hertz and it crushed in week 16,
except Hertz gets a concussion 

615
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,520
and my other quarterback was 
Kirk Cousins. 

616
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,880
And that team makes if if 
Cousins just starts that game, 

617
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,840
you know, and then I have a 
quarterback in week 17 because 

618
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,640
obviously I wouldn't have had I 
wouldn't have done anything 

619
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,200
because I didn't have a 
quarterback. 

620
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,520
But having if we're drafting two
of these guys, one of them could

621
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,760
get hurt at a bad time if the 
other guy has gotten benched in 

622
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,360
the single week elimination 
slash final weeks. 

623
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,240
It does really hurt you if 
you're doing a three quarterback

624
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,160
build it probably, you know, you
may need to worry about that 

625
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,400
less. 
But in a lot of cases you're 

626
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,080
taking one of these guys with 
like an elite. 

627
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,280
If he has any bench risk, it can
be a disaster. 

628
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,960
It can cost you the potential to
go to a final, which is what 

629
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,120
happened to me. 
And Cousins always had that. 

630
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,560
He always had that risk. 
He did always have that, which 

631
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,080
we knew. 
We knew that and it was kind of 

632
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,960
with Cousins, it was difficult 
because it was like it was sort 

633
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,720
of tied to him playing poorly, 
like, and so you kind of lost 

634
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,040
anyway. 
But you know, he had some games 

635
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,920
this year that were pretty good.
500. 

636
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,760
Yeah, Tampa Bay. 
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Merchant 

637
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,920
Mooney's Mooney's Buccaneers. 
Merchant. 

638
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,400
But Cousins is for sure a 
Buccaneers merchant. 

639
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,880
So yeah, but then he still he 
throws for 500 yards in the 

640
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,080
season and get gets benched in 
that season. 

641
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,120
I do not especially next year 
with like a quarterback class 

642
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,640
that I do think is both not very
good and not very fantasy 

643
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,520
friendly outside of like Mill. 
Millrol has a good fantasy 

644
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,840
profile but he's like erratic 
and could could get himself 

645
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,000
benched and who knows where his 
draft capital is. 

646
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,840
So in early stuff, I'm not going
to be Elon. 

647
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,560
Millbro is like, is like less 
athletic, less accurate. 

648
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,720
Richardson like it's it's going 
to be, it's going to be rough. 

649
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:54,000
It's going to be a rough watch. 
So I think to me that there I do

650
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,840
kind of have a line, but the 
line is much later than that. 

651
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:02,480
Like I love looking at like guys
like, you know, Goth Baker 

652
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,840
Jordan love Dak Prescott, Justin
Herbert, if Sam Darnold were to 

653
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,280
be back with the Vikings, 
although if they keep McCarthy, 

654
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,000
that gets a little risky, but he
would be I would be interested 

655
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,840
in him. 
Purdy then Nixon may like that 

656
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,320
group. 
Gino, I think, unless they bring

657
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,400
in somebody. 
But like you saw Bryce Young is 

658
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,000
a that's that's a little shapier
because he was so bad at times 

659
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,400
this year. 
Stroud, Lawrence, Stafford, 

660
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,239
these like pocket passers with 
job security. 

661
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,120
I think 2 as well. 
You know, you got the the 

662
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,400
concussion concern there. 
You can miss a big chunk. 

663
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,679
But the pocket passers with job 
security, I want to be like 

664
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,719
done. 
Last year I did take a lot of 

665
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,239
May. 
I was taking Knicks. 

666
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,920
You could do stuff in the late 
rounds at quarterback where 

667
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,639
you're like, I'm getting a late 
season upside and jobs, you 

668
00:34:55,639 --> 00:35:00,920
know, these guys are saved as 
far and they have upside this 

669
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,520
year. 
Like I don't think that the 

670
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,520
rookies have that much upside. 
I'm not going to be opposed to 

671
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,480
entirely taking them, but like, 
yeah, I know Cam Ward, like take

672
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,120
shots down field and everything,
but it's not it's not like a 

673
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,080
super fantasy friendly profile. 
He's probably the guy to be most

674
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:20,440
interested in, but the, it's 
just a different, it's just a 

675
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,560
very different setup from like 
the players that were getting 

676
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,760
injected into the league, You 
know, So I, I just want to make 

677
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,680
sure that I'm not taking on 
Richardson, right. 

678
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,400
Don't give me Richardson's bench
risk is going to be massive. 

679
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,880
I still think Young has Bryce 
Young still has significant 

680
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,200
bench risk. 
Like any, any of the, any of the

681
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,280
guys who could actually lose 
jobs, like dudes who kind of end

682
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,240
up as starters, the like this 
year's Minshew or, you know, 

683
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,080
2025's Minshew type guy who 
falls into a job. 

684
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,400
I don't want to have like any of
that guy because it's like the 

685
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,840
chances I'm holding the job for 
the year are so low. 

686
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,120
How care to quantify that bench 
risk on Bryce Young? 

687
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,520
Didn't they sort of make it 
work, but maybe not not well 

688
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,880
enough? 
Made it work to nine straight 

689
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,800
losses is how I would is how I 
would put it. 

690
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,400
How how much is that? 
I mean, you're going to learn a 

691
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,520
lot. 
You're going to learn a lot 

692
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,200
about Bryce based on who else is
in the quarterback room with 

693
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,560
him. 
Is it is it Andy Dalton again? 

694
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:28,120
Is it Joe Flacco? 
Is it did they take a third 

695
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,920
round quarter? 
Do they take Jackson Dart? 

696
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,080
They take Jackson Dart with a 
97th pick in the NFL draft. 

697
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:40,680
You know, so I, I think it's 
interesting. 

698
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,040
Young looks a lot better than he
did earlier in the season. 

699
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,720
And the comment here, Bryce 
Young doesn't have interest just

700
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:47,960
because he was benched this 
year. 

701
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:52,080
But like, yes, he does like that
like a guy, the fact that a guy,

702
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,320
if you're thinking about who's 
most likely to get benched, a 

703
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,960
previous benching would be like 
a a good data point to keep in 

704
00:36:58,960 --> 00:36:59,680
mind. 
Like this. 

705
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,960
This coaching staff has given up
on this, the same coaching staff

706
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,720
and they've already given up on 
this dude for a stretch. 

707
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:07,960
And it took a car accident to 
get him back on the field and he

708
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,280
looked a lot better than he did 
before. 

709
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,840
And there's optimism going into 
this year, but like we we're 

710
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,600
always optimistic entering a 
season, you know, that's the way

711
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,440
it works. 
And like, it feels a little 

712
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,840
legacy to me now where it's 
like, yeah, we're going to give 

713
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,040
him the year. 
And but by the end of the year, 

714
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,560
they'll just be like, this isn't
working. 

715
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,760
We're we're losing games. 
Like we it's a third year of 

716
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,080
this guy's career and we've won 
four games. 

717
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,560
Like we're going to, you know, 
give the backup shot whatever 

718
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,600
dude they bring in. 
It's the right point. 

719
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,200
Winning is the right point. 
They have one regulation wins 

720
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,840
since Week 3 or something, but 
they gave up 558 yards 

721
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,480
yesterday. 
I don't know. 

722
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,600
I'd be, I'm, I'm intrigued, but 
there's so many interesting 

723
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,840
names there and they're kind of 
really hard to rank, right? 

724
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,360
What is Justin Herbert next 
year? 

725
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,280
I mean, we have to see. 
What they get if they get, if 

726
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,160
they get Luther, if they get 
Luther Burden and they sign. 

727
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,000
I don't, I haven't started to 
look at who the free agent wide 

728
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,280
receiver class is. 
But if you replace, you know, 

729
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,760
Darius Davis and and DJ Shark 
and Josh Palmer with guys who 

730
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,920
can play, you know, Will Disley,
who is a converted defensive 

731
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,480
end, is his tight end, You know,
like, no disprespect to Will 

732
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,920
Disley, but like, I think 
Harbaugh already kind of passed 

733
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,960
the biggest part of the test for
Burt's fantasy value, which is 

734
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,320
sure, young man. 
Yeah. 

735
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,760
You want like, we'll do what you
we'll do what you want to do. 

736
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,400
We are we are not going to force
you to run the Wing T. 

737
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,760
You know, like the chargers in 
the second-half of the season 

738
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,800
being top ten in PROE would have
not been on anyone's bingo card.

739
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,400
No, not I mean they invested 
nothing in their running backs. 

740
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,760
So like that is maybe something 
you could be concerned about. 

741
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,840
Like what if they spend what if 
the Chargers are the G&T team? 

742
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,080
Chargers could be the there's. 
I don't think there's any reason

743
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,160
the Chargers couldn't be the G&T
team. 

744
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,320
That would maybe give you pause 
a little bit. 

745
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:01,400
I'll tell you one thing though, 
boy, am I really hoping that 

746
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,480
Mahomes like I hope the Chiefs 
win the Super Bowl playing 

747
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,120
boomer ball because there will 
be no return for me. 

748
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,960
I will just run this year back 
if he looks great and they look 

749
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,600
great and worthy looks great and
he's the quarterback 12. 

750
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:19,240
I mean, I'll just there's just 
no way that I will not be in on 

751
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:21,680
that and I'll just have to do 
this whole experience again. 

752
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:23,600
I'd. 
Have to. 

753
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,320
Be like 12. 
I mean, he's, he's great. 

754
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,760
He can. 
He can pay off Quarterback 12. 

755
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,480
I don't know not the the the 
version of him this year cannot 

756
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,400
pay off quarterback 12 because 
he he doesn't he doesn't run. 

757
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,640
They don't throw deep at all. 
One of Hopkins or Hollywood will

758
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,920
not be on the team next year. 
I I think internally they'd 

759
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,280
probably like to keep one of 
them. 

760
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,240
Yeah, I don't know, but 
quarterback 12 Mahomes, I mean, 

761
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:54,680
my God, I just. 
Yeah, Right now that's Caleb on 

762
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,000
my list, quarterback 12 for this
season, total points. 

763
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,720
You want T Higgins. 
If I want to sort of hold my own

764
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:02,480
and make AT Higgins Point, put 
him in LA. 

765
00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:05,200
Oh, yeah? 
Well, he's a patriot. 

766
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,200
The Patriots are giving him 100.
They're giving him $160 million.

767
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,040
He's going to reset the 
quarterback market. 

768
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:17,920
Yes, yeah, he he is going to 
get, he is going to get just due

769
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,920
to happenstance just kind of the
way things are playing when he 

770
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,120
became available, the teams that
need him, the teams with cap 

771
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,440
space, he he is going to get 
paid. 

772
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,880
I mean, he he might legitimately
get like Justin Jefferson money.

773
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,800
I I'm not I'm really not even 
kidding. 

774
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,040
I'm not. 
No, I think you're right. 

775
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:39,040
Yeah, there's several teams that
really desperately need him. 

776
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,160
And I mean the Bengals 
completely mismanaged the 

777
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,160
situation to not even have Chase
done yet. 

778
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,960
They don't even have Chase done.
They're going to have to pay 

779
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,520
Chase an extra $8 million a year
just because they didn't get it 

780
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,480
done. 
I mean, unbelievable. 

781
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:54,000
This. 
Team. 

782
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,160
It's crazy, man, it's so funny. 
I mean. 

783
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,800
It would be it would be nice to 
have them keep this together, 

784
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,840
but. 
It will be an interesting, I 

785
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,840
think we've talked about this 
AFC playoff where it not being 

786
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,680
so clear, where the top teams 
have wide receiver 1, elite wide

787
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,600
receiver, one who's wide 
receiver 2. 

788
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,760
Cincinnati almost definitely 
won't make it. 

789
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,840
Buffalo is all over the place. 
Kansas City is a little bit all 

790
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,040
over the place. 
You know, turning to the 

791
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,520
playoffs and these drafts, 
what's different? 

792
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,600
What did you guys notice? 
And you're drafting, I think 

793
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,640
you're drafting a lot. 
What's changing in there? 

794
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,960
You've got Minnesota now with a 
look at the BI, which I think 

795
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,120
maybe we mostly weren't taking 
seriously. 

796
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,240
Tampa is back on top of Atlanta 
that probably flipped last week.

797
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,200
And maybe Tampa, maybe you were 
drafting Tampa cheap last week 

798
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,760
just in case they would lose 
this game to Washington, Atlanta

799
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,640
where they were underdogs. 
And I wonder about Baltimore to 

800
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,800
getting the lead in the AFC 
North, where people already, 

801
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,080
whichever of these you might 
want to start with Pat or Davis,

802
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,600
where people already buying the 
idea of the Ravens, even though 

803
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,560
it looked like they couldn't 
start, they could start the 

804
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,680
playoffs on the road. 
I actually Baltimore is the most

805
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,800
overvalued team relative to 
their Super Bowl odds in the 

806
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:10,960
whole thing. 
Which is not to say you 

807
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,000
shouldn't pick them because you 
just, if you're going to drop 

808
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,960
150 teams, you got to have 
exposure. 

809
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:20,160
The, The funny thing that's 
happening now is basically 

810
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,920
every, all the, all the hope. 
There's no, there's no hope. 

811
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:27,640
It's, it's, it's all, there are 
three AFC teams that people want

812
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,440
to draft. 
There are four NFC teams that 

813
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,800
people want to draft. 
No one wants a Texan. 

814
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,440
No one wants the Steelers. 
I guess people kind of want the 

815
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,480
Rams and the Buccaneers just for
a week for wild card week 

816
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,240
advance rates, like just just 
for the points. 

817
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,320
Yes, Sack Sack is making a very 
funny point, which is that you 

818
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,400
can actually get Bills players 
whenever you want now because 

819
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,440
they haven't looked good on 
national TV in two weeks, 

820
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,800
despite like things like 
actually improving for them. 

821
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,520
On DK, because there's so many 
bills, I built A-Team yesterday 

822
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:03,720
or the day before where I did 
like Josh Allen, Justin 

823
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:09,000
Jefferson, Josh Jacobs and then 
I got like Aaron Jones later and

824
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,320
I, but I just like took, I just 
like pushed the bills. 

825
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,480
I kept doing fun stuff. 
And then at the end I got like 

826
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:20,960
Ty Johnson, Matt, Matt Collins. 
I think I got like Amari and 

827
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,680
Coleman and Knox. 
Yeah, Knox was a priority 

828
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,320
actually, because I didn't have 
Kincaid and that has tight end. 

829
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,600
But I was just like, you know, 
by the time you get to the Super

830
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,400
Bowl, if you that's one of six 
to advance over on DK. 

831
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,200
It's like if I show up to the 
Super Bowl with like 6 bills and

832
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,360
a starting line up of 6, I think
I'm pretty locked. 

833
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,880
You know if they if they make, 
even if it's not Packers or. 

834
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,720
Vikings it's also it's also 
probably the likeliest it's been

835
00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:52,160
for any of these teams that 
haven't gotten a bye this whole 

836
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,440
time. 
I mean, they they're almost the 

837
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,920
betting equivalent of the Chiefs
with the Chiefs getting to play 

838
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,640
one fewer game and have home 
field. 

839
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,720
So it's Buffalo has been the 
bet. 

840
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,280
If you thought it was. 
We didn't know until Christmas 

841
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,120
Day whether Kansas City would 
lock down the one. 

842
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,200
People were still betting 
against that going into that 

843
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,640
game in Pittsburgh. 
But now we know. 

844
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,680
And so the Bills will play 
almost definitely Davis Denver 

845
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,480
in the first round mean Denver 
wins against the backup Chiefs, 

846
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:22,400
and that's that. 
Man, I don't know, It's like a 

847
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:27,360
real funny thing is Kansas City.
Would you rather a shitty team 

848
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,360
that has no chance of beating 
you in the playoffs get in, or 

849
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,280
would you rather beat them and 
then make your two biggest 

850
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,200
rivals have to play the most 
annoying team you know? 

851
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,200
Well, the the rest of that is if
the Bengals were to win in 

852
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,320
Buffalo, then they would, they 
would get the Chiefs or the 

853
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,240
Chiefs would get them like you'd
have, you'd have to. 

854
00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:50,120
Play them, Yeah. 
You don't want to set yourself 

855
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,560
up for Bengals round, you know 
your round one. 

856
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:58,040
The, the, the Bengals are so 
extremely unserious. 

857
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,200
They are, They are world records
for unseriousness. 

858
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:07,320
This, this organization like I, 
to be, to be frank, famous last 

859
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,360
words. 
Maybe I I'm not that scared of 

860
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,160
having to play the Bengals. 
The the Bills are way more 

861
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,720
terrifying than the Bengals are,
and I don't. 

862
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:21,200
Agree the the Bengals can put up
points, they're they're similar 

863
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,720
to the Bills or they can put up 
points. 

864
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:25,320
Like, I know you can put a 
points against them, but like, 

865
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,080
that's not really what the 
Chiefs are doing right now. 

866
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:31,720
I don't know man, I just like 
Burrow. 

867
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:34,320
Just like takes these awful 
sacks. 

868
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,880
Like these sacks with Burrow. 
I actually looked this up. 

869
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,320
I wanted to tweet it but people 
know I'm such a Bengals hater. 

870
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:44,200
I didn't he the last the last 
three years. 

871
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,520
You know the only two 
quarterbacks who have a a worse 

872
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,520
sack rate on 3rd down than Joe 
Burrow. 

873
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,040
Just guess it's the two funniest
names you can imagine. 

874
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,480
A worse sack right on 3rd down 
it's. 

875
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,440
Not going to be Stroud then. 
Justin Fields. 

876
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,640
Funnier Funnier than Justin 
Fields. 

877
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,520
Christian Hackenberg. 
No, dude, it's it's Russell 

878
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,520
Wilson and Bryce Young. 
Oh God. 

879
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,800
Well, that's kind of always been
a part of the Bengals thing. 

880
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,440
Remember Burrow talking about 
that on a podcast a couple years

881
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,040
ago? 
Yeah, and, and he lied. 

882
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,000
He lied. 
I remember. 

883
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,000
Kevin Cole looks up. 
He's like, oh, well, actually I 

884
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,480
don't do it if we're in field 
goal range. 

885
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,480
I only do that if I'm trying to 
keep the play alive. 

886
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,160
And then you watch him play and 
you're like, dude, you literally

887
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,760
just got out of field goal range
with this. 

888
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,440
I just watched you do it. 
Kevin Cole looked it up. 

889
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,600
It's it's neutral. 
His, his, his, you know, cross 

890
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,080
the 40 and outside the 40. 
That's so funny because on the 

891
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,400
on the broadcast, they'll still 
just take him at face value and 

892
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,120
be like, he knows he knows when 
to take that. 

893
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,720
He knows, he knows the 
situation. 

894
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:46,000
He's a real smart guy, Joe bro, 
real, real, real intelligent 

895
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,200
quarterback. 
You know, he's just kind of 

896
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,000
always one step ahead as he. 
Another task. 

897
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:57,200
As he takes another terrible. 
He does OK though. 

898
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,480
He still does OK. 
Real out of character there from

899
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,160
Joe taking him out of. 
Field Rd. 

900
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,200
No, it is. 
It's the. 

901
00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:05,640
And from Davis? 
It's it's the uncharacteristic 

902
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,480
sack there, which was like the 
old uncharacteristic drop from 

903
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,480
Edelman where it was like, he 
just does it all the time. 

904
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,920
Leads the league in passing 
yards and passing touchdowns. 

905
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,640
I think they're scary. 
I I think the Buffalo butt, so 

906
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:25,200
to speak, is takeaways and 
turnovers because they are 

907
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,400
basically first in the league in
both fewest turnovers and most 

908
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,120
takeaways. 
And you never know, you don't 

909
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,040
know how to predict this. 
But you get to the playoffs, you

910
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,040
know, the, the pass rushes are a
little better. 

911
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,280
Allen never get sacked against 
The Jets and the Patriots and 

912
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,320
the teams they most of the teams
they play and they've just been 

913
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:49,120
so right in protecting the ball 
and they've taken it away like 

914
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,720
crazy. 
And that's just not going to be 

915
00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:54,400
as likely in these postseason 
games against good teams. 

916
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,120
So that's my biggest concern 
with the Bills. 

917
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,000
I think they're a little bit 
built on that turnover luck, 

918
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,320
both sides of the ball this 
year. 

919
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,840
Doesn't mean they're not equally
draftable for four games in 

920
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,640
these tournaments. 
I mean, they're absolutely the 

921
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,320
team to. 
They've been like sort of where 

922
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,680
are you guys? 
Davis, you say the Ravens are 

923
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:21,000
are pretty overpriced and I I 
felt that way like a a couple 

924
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,680
weeks ago. 
Now, obviously they took the 

925
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,040
three seed, but when I really 
felt that way, it looked like 

926
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,160
they were going to be, you know,
playing Rd. games to the 

927
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,920
Steelers right, right, but they 
they moved up significantly in 

928
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,520
price. 
Lamar's like the one O 2. 

929
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,440
That part of it I I'm like 
fairly OK with because 

930
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,560
quarterback dries up so quickly.
So it's like you're staying if 

931
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,440
you're not being the guy gets 
locked out of quarterback if you

932
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:51,320
take Lamar one O 2 and that's 
nice, but it is like Josh Allen 

933
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,720
to me feels a lot stronger and 
he I know he's the one O 1, but 

934
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,800
he he feels like a big drop off.
And I still think I like Hertz 

935
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,320
to to be the guy who kind of 
storms through. 

936
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,440
Why don't we take the why don't 
we take the the quarterback from

937
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,640
the team that's favored to win 
the conference at 2:00? 

938
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,040
This is which? 
Which guy are you talking about?

939
00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:15,200
Gawk or Mahomes? 
Mahomes, I think. 

940
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,640
Well, I mean, I think there's an
equal argument for both. 

941
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,440
I agree that Allen, the 
combination of having the wild 

942
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,600
card game, being a great fantasy
point scorer, clearly being a 

943
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,520
team that could beat the Chiefs 
and having good conference 

944
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,960
championship equity, like he 
should clearly be the one. 

945
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,000
But in the Davis Maddock mental 
math rankings, I I think I think

946
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,240
Hertz is the two and Mahomes 
should be the three. 

947
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,040
That is, that is my opinion. 
What about? 

948
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,280
Donald. 
I mean, Donald's a pretty good 

949
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,040
pick. 
He's he's steaming up. 

950
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:52,160
Here's the issue, Mike. 
I might have already drafted 200

951
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,400
dead teams because I took the 
Vikings as. 

952
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,280
My. 
I took the Vikings as my back 

953
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,880
door team. 
I took my Vikings. 

954
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:01,720
Just give me some wild card 
points buddy. 

955
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,200
Yeah, yeah. 
You could still get there. 

956
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,840
There are three-point underdog 
in Detroit. 

957
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:12,520
You could still get there. 
Man, that's going to be a hell 

958
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,880
of a game. 
What a high stakes regular 

959
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,200
season game. 
My brother's a Vikings fan. 

960
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,640
He's like, this has got to be, I
mean, he's like, it has to be 

961
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,800
basically the highest stakes 
regular season game of the 

962
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,680
Vikings. 
Franchise history. 

963
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,320
Probably Lions franchise 
history. 

964
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:32,160
It's the first week 18 game. 
Most wins. 

965
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,440
Since since no to determine the 
one seed since the 80s. 

966
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,000
Wow, OK, most wins ever in a 
finale, too. 

967
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,400
They said that last night. 
Green Bay sitting there at the 

968
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:48,240
seven at Philadelphia at 7 
versus 2 in the first round and 

969
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:51,520
then Packers and Lions or 
Packers and Vikings for the 

970
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:52,840
third time. 
Green Bay. 

971
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,160
Didn't they go O and two against
both teams this year? 

972
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,320
We saw what happened last year 
with the Packers. 

973
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,520
Yeah, I think Packers are a 
good. 

974
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,560
I mean, Jacobs is expensive now,
but not like crazy expensive. 

975
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,720
It pairs well with like the, you
know, the one O 11O2 stuff. 

976
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,840
There's lots of Packers 
receivers to take. 

977
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,960
They cover buys if you want. 
To do I'm done. 

978
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,040
I I'm like I'm like taking 
Jordan love Tucker craft last 

979
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,600
two rounds if I need it. 
I, I watched Matt Lafleur called

980
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:26,720
a delayed handoff on 2nd and 10 
down to touchdowns at Minnesota 

981
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:30,800
and I was like, you know what? 
If this guy wants to be serious,

982
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,600
he's got First off, he called 
the delayed handoff for Emmanuel

983
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,280
Wilson as well. 
Not even Jacobs, not even the 

984
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,960
engine, not even the guy who's 
like the, the, the, the best or 

985
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,440
whatever, you know? 
It's a setup. 

986
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,720
They had nothing to play for. 
They were down already. 

987
00:51:45,720 --> 00:51:47,320
It's a setup. 
Watch out. 

988
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,640
Be afraid for Green Bay if 
you're drafting Philadelphia or 

989
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,440
whoever. 
I think, I think we'll serve 

990
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,120
really good. 
Purple Yosh says, you know, love

991
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,960
kind of proven it's overrated 
here and it's been a 

992
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:04,200
disappointing season for love. 
But like love that it looks 

993
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:05,880
disappointing is because of 
volume. 

994
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,520
They don't drop back. 
Like if they're forced to drop 

995
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,840
back or if they're to your 
point, Mike, if they're playing 

996
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,160
a little bit differently in the 
playoffs, then I think they 

997
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,200
could surprise. 
Love was so good last year. 

998
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,760
And then if you look at like 
efficiency, even an EPA per 

999
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,360
game, it looks pretty good. 
But EPA plays pretty like very 

1000
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,000
solid. 
It just doesn't have a lot of 

1001
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:31,440
plays. 
And you know, it's hard. 

1002
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,480
It's always hard when a team has
an identity built around the 

1003
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:35,880
run. 
And they they just brought in 

1004
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,960
Josh Jacobs and they feed him 
and he's played very well. 

1005
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,880
So most likely scenario is that 
that's who they are. 

1006
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,520
But if they were to lean on the 
pass a little bit more. 

1007
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:51,080
I think a a fun long shot team 
is the Chargers if you it's a 

1008
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,560
narrative based thing. 
But if you buy into like the 

1009
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,480
Ravens playoff failures, that 
might be your 6 versus 3. 

1010
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,480
And Mcconkey is likable in these
things. 

1011
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,000
What I didn't get a chance to 
say it before, but when we were 

1012
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,000
talking about Chargers, Patriots
and we'd come off, I think maybe

1013
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,320
just then the Bryce Young point 
like beat somebody. 

1014
00:53:11,240 --> 00:53:15,360
Herbert, I likes New England as 
a bet in that game West to East 

1015
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,360
early on Saturday. 
And he's like, I'm not losing. 

1016
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,920
I'm sorry. 
Like he he was really good in 

1017
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,320
that game. 
And that's what everybody has 

1018
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,080
wanted from Justin Herbert is, 
you know, you talking about the 

1019
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:30,000
coaching staff all right here. 
And he's like, fine, Josh 

1020
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,120
Palmer, here you go. 
Johnston, guys that nobody 

1021
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,400
thinks are good. 
Here you go. 

1022
00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:38,720
Mcconkey is always open and it 
was New England, but I mean, it 

1023
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:41,960
was 40 to 7. 
So they'll have the Raiders this

1024
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,560
week and be pretty well 
positioned for the six or even 

1025
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,240
the five. 
If Pittsburgh loses, they move 

1026
00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:50,360
up and play Houston. 
I might think they'd be favored 

1027
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,480
in Houston. 
And then it's the Chiefs, who 

1028
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,800
they play all the time. 
And it was one play this year. 

1029
00:53:55,200 --> 00:54:00,680
I, I, I could talk myself. 
I just did into LA LALA Super 

1030
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,200
Bowl. 
Their wide receiver, too, is 

1031
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:08,080
Quinton Johnston. 
Yeah, but they're, I mean, they 

1032
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,480
are well coached. 
I was skeptical of Greg Roman. 

1033
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,160
And I think, you know, it is a 
little disappointing to have a 

1034
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,920
guy who's not like super 
aggressive with Justin Herbert. 

1035
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,400
But they've definitely been less
boomery than I was worried they 

1036
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,640
might be. 
Greg Roman, year 1. 

1037
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,000
Greg Roman, year one. 
That's always what you want, 

1038
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,160
Pat. 
That's true. 

1039
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,080
Yeah. 
He's he's he's decent in year 1.

1040
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,440
But yeah, I mean, Harbaugh is a 
is a good coach. 

1041
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,240
So you, you have that going for 
you. 

1042
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,640
And yeah, Herbert's really good.
Like taking, isn't that the Bill

1043
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:39,840
Simmons thing? 
You, you take the best 

1044
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,280
quarterback in these playoff 
games. 

1045
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:42,920
You're getting, you're getting a
good quarter. 

1046
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,800
You're getting, you're getting a
better quarterback when they 

1047
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,840
play when they play the Texans. 
Unfortunately, Stroud does not 

1048
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,280
look like up to Herbert's level 
right now. 

1049
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,160
Well, as we wind down here, I 
just want to quickly mention one

1050
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:00,480
of my favorite leagues this year
is a league that I completely 

1051
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,440
ripped off the idea from the 
guys at RotoWire about 8 or 10 

1052
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,640
years ago when I started getting
into fantasy football. 

1053
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,320
And that's the stake league as 
they called it. 

1054
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,240
Or you had 12 guys. 
Anybody out there, you're 

1055
00:55:11,240 --> 00:55:13,840
welcome to. 
You know, I, I recommend this as

1056
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:18,000
a concept. 
There's no entry, but you have a

1057
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,200
12 team draft. 
And then the next year, middle 4

1058
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,160
pay for their own. 
Everybody goes out to dinner 

1059
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,360
together. 
Middle 4 pays for their own, 

1060
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,880
bottom 4 pays for themselves and
the top four. 

1061
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:34,800
And so it turns into a pretty 
big night and it you know, 

1062
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,520
there's no like you don't see it
in your account here when you 

1063
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,640
when you when you win. 
But I'm excited to have been in 

1064
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:41,960
the top four in the steak 
league. 

1065
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,240
I think that's a really fun way 
the the next year you draft and 

1066
00:55:45,240 --> 00:55:47,240
then eat, you draft and then 
eat. 

1067
00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:50,520
So it's a great nice. 
That is, that is a that is a 

1068
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,920
very cool idea for a league. 
You would you would like for 

1069
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,360
posterity to see the number up 
at the top change, but it 

1070
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:57,520
doesn't. 
True. 

1071
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,520
So we have time to briefly jump 
back to the quarterback thing 

1072
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,640
and talk Caleb Williams, because
I'm very curious about how you 

1073
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,440
guys are thinking about him next
year. 

1074
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,560
He's dying to be. 
In quarterback, my head is in 

1075
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,560
the sand. 
My head, my head could not be 

1076
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,760
more in the sand. 
I just I I'm hoping that Ben 

1077
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:19,800
Johnson is the head coach of the
Chicago Bears and I will simply 

1078
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,520
pretend the bad rookie year 
never happened. 

1079
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,520
I won't read any of Scott 
Barrett's tweets, and I will. 

1080
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,160
I will just keep buying. 
I would say with the Scott 

1081
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,680
Barrett, because he he's had 
accuracy and sack avoidance a 

1082
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,200
couple metrics there. 
He was like the worst ever that 

1083
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,440
they had, which is obviously not
good. 

1084
00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:41,880
But when you look at something 
like EPA per play, which is a 

1085
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:46,440
bit more holistic, he's bad, but
he's not nearly as bad. 

1086
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,040
He's much, much better than like
a Zach Wilson or even a Bryce 

1087
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,840
Young meltdown season from last 
year. 

1088
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:57,040
But I, I mean, it seems crazy to
say, but does he have Bentress 

1089
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,120
next year in a Bryce Young in 
kind of way? 

1090
00:56:59,720 --> 00:57:02,680
Not if they hire. 
Not if they hire like a fancy, 

1091
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,200
you know, like if they do. 
The like a Canalis type. 

1092
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,440
Like a Dave Canalis type. 
Not Pete Carroll, you mean? 

1093
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,160
I mean, First off, I. 
Mean, that's what that's what 

1094
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:14,960
the Sanders did. 
They brought in the Guru. 

1095
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,720
First off, I think you're being 
unfair to Caleb. 

1096
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:22,040
I just think that is that is my 
opinion, not a widely held 

1097
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,920
opinion at this point. 
The the YouTube chats, all 

1098
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,000
various YouTube chats have 
totally turned against Caleb 

1099
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,880
Williams. 
So this is very brave of me to 

1100
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,400
be I. 
Think I'm being fair by pointing

1101
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,280
out that his the, you know, in 
the most predictive metric, he's

1102
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,680
he's bad but not horrendous. 
So I think the bench risk is 

1103
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:41,880
going to be much higher if they 
hire an Everflues type, if they 

1104
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:49,080
hire a defensive CEO type, then 
absolutely if they, if they. 

1105
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:53,120
Hire Ant. 
By the way, Andrew, in the chat 

1106
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,520
about Pete Carroll, Adam 
Schefter literally responded to 

1107
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,120
that article. 
It said it was bullshit. 

1108
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,360
He said he said not, not 
happening. 

1109
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,760
No Pete Carroll for the Bears. 
The Bears wouldn't do that 

1110
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,640
anyways because the Bears don't 
want to spend a bunch of money 

1111
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,800
on a coach and Pete Carroll 
would want a bunch of money. 

1112
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,880
How could? 
Ben Johnson, take that job. 

1113
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,720
I mean, Shope, you don't want to
be the the second fiddle your 

1114
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,480
whole life, man. 
He doesn't want to just be the 

1115
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,120
offensive coordinator at the. 
No, I, I agree. 

1116
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,320
I think he'll be a head coach, 
but he got away with the gambit 

1117
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,040
this year. 
They might win it. 

1118
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,920
That helps. 
And then to go from Detroit to 

1119
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,960
Chicago, the EP, the 
quintessential place where 

1120
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,760
offense goes to die. 
I mean, I don't think I would 

1121
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,760
want to do that. 
I think I'd want to be he got 

1122
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,400
again this year worked out for 
him. 

1123
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,400
Although we could have had 
Daniels but somewhere better 

1124
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:46,720
not. 
That's nothing against Williams 

1125
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,520
either, but I think he could 
probably do better. 

1126
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,360
Here's the deal. 
Just the YouTube chat. 

1127
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,680
They're not football guys. 
They just don't know. 

1128
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,240
They just don't know that Caleb 
is him. 

1129
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,320
They just don't know he's good. 
He's a good player. 

1130
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,360
I don't know if he's him. 
I think it's him, his, him. 

1131
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,000
Odds have cratered. 
His, his, him odds. 

1132
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,240
They're like half of Jaden 
Daniels. 

1133
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:10,640
That's the thing that it all is 
worse in comparison because 

1134
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:14,880
Daniels is just like so clearly 
him, just like so clearly 

1135
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,520
franchise quarterback change the
whole direction. 

1136
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,040
He's him capital H, capital I, 
capital M, And so it makes Caleb

1137
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,000
look worse. 
Dynasty Dynasty start up Is he 

1138
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,480
top 10 quarterbacks? 
For me, yes. 

1139
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:29,560
No, I don't think so. 
I. 

1140
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,760
Think it's close. 
I think that's that's the line 

1141
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:33,800
right there. 
I need to. 

1142
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,480
Yeah, I need to. 
I need to so. 

1143
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,600
The guys in the league. 
From Danielsborough Mahomes. 

1144
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,360
I'm about to go send some trades
right now. 

1145
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,080
I'm about to go. 
I'm about to get, I'm about to 

1146
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,040
get in the lab. 
I've got I've got first this 

1147
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,000
man, It's a terrible. 
Draft like I would I would take 

1148
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,200
I would take May over a mint 
dynasty now. 

1149
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,440
Herbert. 
The call's coming up from inside

1150
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,640
the house, Patrick. 
But is that is that even 

1151
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,360
controversial? 
Like he just looks like may can 

1152
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,080
play the quarterback position at
the NFL level. 

1153
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,360
Like for sure, his supporting 
class absolutely sucks. 

1154
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,160
His coaching sucks. 
It's probably going to suck next

1155
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:07,680
year. 
But like what? 

1156
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,000
What concerns do you have about 
him? 

1157
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,720
Is like, can you do it? 
Caleb is struggling with stuff 

1158
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,040
that like gets that ends 
careers. 

1159
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,200
This is what ended Fields his 
career. 

1160
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,200
Really. 
I mean, it's a starter. 

1161
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,680
Like he takes too many sacks. 
Like sacks kill careers. 

1162
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,960
You guys got to go see Darnold 
in the locker room after that 

1163
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,800
win yesterday. 
If he didn't like how are they 

1164
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,440
possibly letting him go after 
this season? 

1165
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,040
Maybe they'll be. 
People are going to be really 

1166
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,720
mad when they do let him go. 
I predict. 

1167
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,000
I predict that'll be the most 
people get mad about something 

1168
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:43,200
in the NFL this offseason when 
they say, Sam, thank you for 

1169
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,600
your service. 
I can't. 

1170
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,880
I can't see him doing it. 
We'll see if they win rounds 

1171
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,560
that would maybe settle it, but 
New Year's this week. 

1172
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,320
You have to franchise. 
You have to franchise Darnold, 

1173
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,680
right? 
I think that's the correct move,

1174
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,240
yeah. 
How do you guys spend New 

1175
01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:59,920
Year's? 
I know, Pat, you're out east 

1176
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:02,640
here with your family, right? 
We're flying home. 

1177
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,400
That's our big New Year's plans,
this flying back to California 

1178
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,640
and picking up our dog from the 
sitter and then. 

1179
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,680
In theory, the least crazy thing
ever. 

1180
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,280
If you had a late night flight, 
you could, you know, have happy 

1181
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:16,760
New Year like three times on 
that flight. 

1182
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,240
Yeah. 
You could take it right out 

1183
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,880
true. 
Yeah, yeah, You plan it right, 

1184
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:26,120
Davis. 
I got to go do some shit out of 

1185
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,120
the house, which I hate, I 
really do. 

1186
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:32,480
I'm such a, I'm such a, an 
indoor cat these days. 

1187
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,480
But I will be, I'll be out. 
I'll be out in about the the 

1188
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:39,440
local, the Blues are playing in 
the Winter Classic, So it's like

1189
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,720
a big, it's like a big bar day. 
I actually wanted to go, but it 

1190
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,280
just didn't work out. 
We didn't have anyone to watch 

1191
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,400
our puppy and she's a handful 
but. 

1192
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,120
No doubt you got to see them 
lose to Buffalo yesterday. 

1193
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,360
I don't care. 
I don't care about the Blues. 

1194
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,800
I like the avalanche, but it's 
just like a thing around here. 

1195
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,920
Sure, Wrigley Field. 
You know the Winter Classic is a

1196
01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:59,920
win when they put it on a 
Tuesday at 3:00. 

1197
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,040
It's not a hallway. 
It's a fun event. 

1198
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,640
The first one ever was here. 
It's one of my favorite sporting

1199
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,640
events I've ever been to. 
What do you guys have coming up 

1200
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,280
today or this week in terms of 
content? 

1201
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,960
Lot of playoff basketball. 
I'll I'll be live immediately 

1202
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,160
after this actually, so the 
people get redirected right 

1203
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,160
there. 
Yeah, plus we're going to do a 

1204
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,440
stream tonight. 
Kind of a sweat, but also 

1205
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,680
drafting playoff basketball 
teams over on Legendary Upside 

1206
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,320
YouTube. 
And then later in the week, once

1207
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,760
I'm back home, we're going to do
a bunch of playoff basketball 

1208
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,160
stuff. 
I'll try to wake up with you, 

1209
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:34,880
Davis, and do some content as 
well. 

1210
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,120
All right. 
Cool. 

1211
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,160
Yeah, playoff baseball, we've 
got the the sidekicks cooking 

1212
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:43,520
over on DraftKings and underdog 
and yeah, drafted. 

1213
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,800
This is I think this is the week
I'm going to try to get in like 

1214
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:50,920
the most volume I have so far as
I finally get get some time to 

1215
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:55,080
to get in the lab and and, you 
know, not be doing so much 

1216
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,360
family get together stuff, I can
actually draft. 

1217
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,120
So I'm very excited, draft a lot
of. 

1218
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:00,440
Playoffs. 
You can see the gleam in his 

1219
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,760
eyes. 
Davis is afraid to go outside. 

1220
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,280
He's he's dreading it. 
Here's bad. 

1221
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,480
I can't wait to get away from my
family as they're draft. 

1222
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,320
I love the family, it's nice to 
see them, but not too many 

1223
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,960
drafts, you know, that's. 
The that's OK, we all love your 

1224
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,760
family. 
I'll be on WGR in Buffalo in 

1225
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,600
less than an hour talking about 
the Bills situation and the 

1226
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,040
playoff picture. 
Eric Wood, one of my guests 

1227
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,160
today, Ross Tucker tomorrow. 
That's on the Odyssey app. 

1228
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,200
Happy new year, guys. 
Thanks to everybody for watching

1229
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:27,800
and listening. 
We'll see you next week here on 

1230
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:32,720
ADP Chasing. 
Yeah, and I'm going to pull up. 

1231
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:34,160
Later.