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Before we get our hands too dirty on the season that's about
to end, Pat. So a buddy and a buddy of mine
and I have been talking about going to Bill's Patriots this
week. And that's of course, Lord Pete
Week 18. Well, I mean, this is kind of
like for him, the one week he can do it.
It's 1010 minutes from home and I've kind of wanted to see him
and I've got cousins there. So will we see Drake May?
Probably Jerrod Mayo seems like he like, just woke up from a nap
and has to be reminded that he's the Patriots head coach.
Like that's kind of the level of, you know, hands on.
I mean, he literally announced that they were going to bend for
Stevenson and then he wasn't benched.
And I think he just like, it was like an oversight.
He's like, oh, right, we're supposed to bench for a guy like
he he is just like, it is unbelievable.
Kind of the level of like, you know, one of the things that
they've talked about like making it's like a real indicator of
success at the head coach level because it's a different thing
than being a defensive guy or an offensive guy is, is attention
to detail that the best head coaches are like obsessive in
their attention to detail. Imagine one of these imagine
Sean Mcbay for getting to venture a guy after he announced
he was going to venture a guy. It's just like it's it's
unbelievable. So I would if I were you guys,
if you, you know, you're rooting for the Bills, you want to see
the Bills look good. I what, what better possible
game could there be to go see them look good?
They're going to look great. I know, I know the Patriots put
up a fight last time, but I'm, I'm personally hoping they fully
quit. They fully quit on Gerard Mayo.
Get him out of there. There's an opening here.
Patriots do the right thing. I think you'll see Josh Allen
for three plays so we can keep his starting streak alive and
then that's it. They've clinched the two.
Raheem Morris is on too, to talk about attention to detail.
I think to your last point, but I don't know when, when May got
hit in the head on Saturday. I'd like that's it.
Why would he come back in the game this game next week?
You know, you've got an excuse now.
And now they have the number one pick, Davis, which was not
expected with the Giants and Raiders.
Shout out. Shout out, Drew Lock.
Yeah, Good. Good work.
Good work from Lock. I mean, the Patriots are somehow
going to bungle this. What actually, I mean, this is
what they're going to do. They're just not going to trade
the pick. They're just going to take Ted
McMillan with the first overall pick and just not trade it, just
totally just not get anything out of it.
Does like that that's. The guy they would have taken,
yeah. Take, take the guy they would
have taken at 4:00 and just take him at one, Yeah.
Will there be a market Davis like for that pick though what
what kind of interest we've had years like this where?
See, This is why people on Twitter, man, they just, they,
they're like, dude, Cam Ward sucks, Shudder, dude, shudder's
terrible. You guys are living in an
alternate reality, man. You just, you can't tell John
Mara, who just had to watch 2 years of Daniel Jones, Drew
Lock, Tommy DeVito and say, yeah, there's two like fun
quarterbacks. They like got invited to the
Heisman. And actually we're just not,
we're just going to take a tackle.
We're just going to we're just going to take we're just taking
a tackle. You good with that, John?
John Maher is like he's like 82 years old.
He's like near death and he's like, he can't watch another
year of this. Yeah, the and and it also seems
so Cam Ward in my early past, I've been I don't he does not
look good. I don't think this proves I'm
with those people on Twitter. They're saying this is a really
bad. I think generally people think
it's a bad quarterback class. I was listening to Connor
Rodgers and Trevor sitcom. I break it down and and Connor
was being pretty candid that he's like, oh, it's not not my
favorite quarterback class, but I do get the sense that people
will talk themselves into Cam Ward and that then there will be
also some teams that are pretty into Shudur too.
So I'm guessing there. Is one I'm kind of into Shudur.
I I'm, I'm honestly like I'm I'm open to it.
I'm, well, it's, I'm open to Shudur.
It's major markets. Boston, NY, Vegas, you know, I
don't know the teams of the some of the teams at the top might
like the sex appeal of the whole idea, but.
Well, I think they also, you have with Vegas in New York, you
have two teams that didn't address quarterback last year
when it seemed like maybe they wanted to and it didn't fall
their way like the Giants would have liked to get May, but they
could. The Raiders probably thought
they were going to get tenets and then the the Falcons swooped
in. So I think that extra year of
weight, like as an NFL organization, you don't have
like that long of a shelf life. And you can't.
I mean the well, the Raiders might clean house.
The Giants probably keep their guys, right?
I don't know. You got to make moves and and
ownership is not going to want to just sit around and and throw
in away another year. They just threw away a year.
They're not going to want to do that again.
I I think both those teams would would like to have their pick at
quarterback would be my guess. It's the Giants and The Jets,
right? I mean, The Jets have one more
win, but they're hopeless, too. What a team.
What? Do you?
What do you do with What do you do if you're The Jets?
What a team. The Jets, The Jets are probably
bummed that Drew Aller back at school.
They were like that. That would have been nice.
Right. Yeah, and and Quinn Ewers is, is
maybe going to stay, probably going to stay.
Do you do you do like a second round mill row?
Oh. Mill Row dude.
If Michael Pennix is the 13th overall pick, I think Mill Row
probably ends up being a first round pick.
Right. You guys up being like mid, mid
first? He ends up going 17th overall
to, you know, yeah. Yeah, that's an interesting.
I think you're right. That's an interesting facet of
this. I don't know about you 2, but so
much of the draft discourse last year was and we have four months
to go was like no way Pennex, no way Knicks first round picks and
Knicks seems fine and Pennex might also seem fine and next
year you might have the juxtaposition of a considered
weaker class. But what did this year approve,
right? I mean the league sort of is
always looking back and what worked and what didn't work. 6
quarterbacks went in the first round and, you know, one didn't
play at all. Caleb Williams happened, but
everybody else seems kind of exciting.
And so that might justify what you're saying, Davis, like push
guys up. Well, I'll tell you something I
learned, Corinne. You finish your thought first,
because this is kind of a different point.
You go. I think this was a really,
really good quarterback class, like an accident, like pop in a
big way in my stuff. But but Nick's did and then May
and Daniels and Caleb May was like just outrageous.
And then the other those guys all look good.
And who am I forgetting? Is that it?
The McCarthy? Oh, McCarthy looked fine.
He was kind of at the Pennix level where I like I Knicks came
out better than him. But they were all like, yeah,
these are these are fine first round picks, kind of like
Shadour kind of comes out at that level.
Words actually a little worse. And so I could see like Milro is
all about draft capital. Like I think if he's a, if he's
a first round pick, I'm definitely into him.
If he's a second round pick, it gets shakier.
But it I'm like, is this last year or is this the Kennedy
picket year where we had Desmond Ritter fall to the third, we had
Malik Willis fall to 3rd, we had Howell fall to the fifth.
Like I need to know what the NFL thinks about these, because if
the NFL says no, Milro's the first round pick and shudor's
like the the two or the one and you know, and wards the two were
the one, then like, all right, you know, they're they're going
to start, they're going to get their shot.
They're going to be like, I'm going to be like they kind of
look like a little Daniel Jonesy in their outlook to me.
But you know, whatever, let's let's you know, bet on the draft
capital. But I'm very, very curious to
see that if we get that stamp of approval, because, you know, it
wasn't that long ago where the NFL was just like packed on an
entire quarterback class. Can he pick?
That's the only first rounder. So I'll tell you the big
difference I think you have to have in evaluating Cam Ward and
Shudder and just quarterback classes in general is like it's
just not that bad to be 23 anymore or 24.
You know, like it used to be basically huge red flag like 23
year old quarterback who wasn't good until his final season.
That guy's bust rate is 100%. Like literal, literal just like
guaranteed bust. Burrough was kind of the first
one to, to break out of there, although he was better as a
junior than than like going back than we want to say he was.
But Jane Daniels and Bo Nix were like awful college quarterbacks.
Like like straight, like, I mean, Jane Daniels had to
transfer. Bo Nix was like at Auburn.
Like we're just like watching Bo Nix at Auburn.
Like this guy cannot quarterback his way out of a wet paper bag.
So the NIL money and then the extra year of eligibility
granted from COVID stuff. I mean, Pat, we're we're going
to talk about this when we start doing dynasty stuff for wide
receivers. Like you just can't.
A four year guy is not a four year guy from back in the day
anymore. But also like the extra reps
think about how many reps these guys have gotten compared to to
other guy. I think you see it.
I think you see it with Caleb, right?
I think you see the the reps issue.
I mean, this the fucking sax with Caleb Williams.
I mean, yeah. They're not good.
It's, it's just like terrible. It's like, well, OK, at the age
that Caleb Williams was doing that, Jane Daniels was going
like 4:00 and 9:00 at Arizona State, you know?
Yeah. And I do think quarterback, like
obviously you don't want to be Brandon Whedon and be like
literally 27. But like I think quarterback is
a position where if you show that you can do it young, then
I'm I'm very excited about that. But if you're, if it like if
you're 22 versus 23, I don't really care.
Like if you can do it, you can do it.
I think it's one of those positions, like it's such a high
degree of difficulty to be an NFL quarterback.
And if it takes you an extra year to put it together and then
you come into the league and you can do it like great.
You know, especially for best ball purposes.
Like we're looking for guys who can play the position and aren't
going to like fall flat on their face.
And maybe they don't have like the highest ceiling in like 3 or
4 years compared to a guy who's like lighting it up as a 19 year
old in college. But like, so, So what, you know,
we, we draft a year at a time. It's more of a dynasty thing.
I think when you think about like a guy who's 22 versus 23.
What else is 23? What else is always changing
too, you know, like sort of the how the position is being
played. We had the two high safety
revolution and now we want, you know, somebody, even the chiefs
at 15 and one. I mean everything is efficient
short here and there for most teams, same thing.
And you have if that even if this even applies, Darnold and
Mayfield and even Goff, you know, players who have we'd all
right now. I think in the league, we all
kind of buy into the development is important, but we don't know
if we as an organization can afford it.
So we're going to put them in and rookie contract and
hopefully it works out. But you've got this second wave
of, you know, 2930 year old quarterbacks who look fine, even
really good at the position. So all sort of pushing toward
the overall point here, which I think is older is not a problem
and you have guys like a Lance well.
It it definitely is. It definitely like you would
definitely prefer these guys to dominate college football at 19.
It's just a very strong signal that a guy can play.
But like, it's no longer, I think, disqualifying.
Yeah, that's exactly how I would put it.
And I think in terms of the the development, like NFL teams
don't really develop players. Like players get to the league
and they basically develop themselves or they don't
develop. Like if you're like, if you show
up to an NFL team and you're like, train me.
You're screwed. They're they're they're.
That's not how it works. Chase Chase Brown and Andre
Yoshi Vos had to go find. I just know, 'cause I talked to
the guy who trained them, had to go find this guy.
He didn't seek them out. The team didn't put him in touch
with this guy. They had to go find, like, seek
this guy out and go work out at his facility in the offseason.
And the Bengals were like, oh, OK.
That's great. That's great.
Yeah, we're glad you did that. Maybe not fun now, we weren't
going to before. Exactly.
Literally and it's crazy. It's like, I mean, think about
you guys should be dumping because there's no salary cap on
training, there's no salary cap. I think there's there is
restrictions as to what you can do in terms of hours worked in
the offseason and things like that.
But yeah, like, I mean, it's something a lot of boomers say
about football that they're probably right about.
But like, teams don't practice very much anymore and you
definitely ranks at full speed anymore.
But even like Tony Gonzalez talked about like he did that
like he was like he, he realized, I think after like his
first year or during his first year that he's like, oh, like I
no one's going to teach me how to like do all the stuff I need
to do now. And so he like had to go get
someone to like help him do that.
So are, I mean, it's like, are you a professional basically is
a big is a big part of it. And so, yeah, I mean, if you're
like, I mean, not so dense about the Patriots again, but they're
getting blown out and like Javon Baker like barely played in that
game. Like they're not playing Polk.
Like, I think these guys are probably busted.
No, it is. It's that's so funny that
they're just playing like Demario Douglas.
This like 29. Year old.
Slot yeah born instead of just being like go let's see if we
got something here let's just. See if we got anything,
anything. Let's see if like this is now,
this is a preseason game now and we're going to figure out if we
should even have you on the roster next.
Like, I'm not saying like if you played them, they'd develop into
something special, but like learn about these guys at least.
Like no, we we're going to play to to win down 30 points in a
meaningless game in week, week 17.
Like they just they're like anti development.
They seem to they would do what you if you're trying not to
develop players, you would you would do with these coaches.
Given all that thanks to given all that thanks to Hunter Henry
for his 0.0 in the fantasy finals and the 40 to seven loss,
I know. God.
How about how about Josh Allen for this quickly?
So I think the person outside of Allen himself that gets the most
credit for his, if transformation isn't too strong,
is Jordan Palmer, Carson Palmer's brother, who he went to
work with and it's feet and it's timing.
And it's sort of like kind of growing up at the position
because the Bills, one reason why I bet against Allen like a
lot of people did when he was drafted is the Bills were, as
you'll know, absolutely not the organization you'd want, you
know, a young quarterback prospect to land on.
They just hired McDermott. They had 17 years in a row
without a playoff season. Like they were anything but.
It was Rex Ryan and ground and Pound.
They're anything but a forward thinking team.
They get to Devol, comes in with play action all the time and
they make that work. But Alan has it, has to go
through him and it does and suddenly he's great.
So another guy maybe in this category even on his level.
Was such a shitty college player.
It's like really unbelievable that that is that he became who
he became. He does some of the stuff I look
at that's like looks at fantasy, you know, fantasy potential.
He actually does pretty well cuz he, cuz he threw a lot of deep
passes. He threw, he had like a lot of
big time deep throws, did like stuff that's really good for
fantasy in between, you know, some some plays he'd won back
and stuff. He just had.
He just had no he. Always had a lot of fantasy
potential. He had no, he had no feel.
And then he got feel, which is just like, very hard to do,
yeah. Right.
And it wasn't because Sean McDermott like, sat down and
like, trained. Him.
No. He he got, he got an outside
guy, which is what all these guys, I mean, Tom Brady had an
outside guy. These guys all have.
They're guys they work with. Does I don't actually know.
Does does Mahomes have an outside guy?
I I really I have no idea. I don't know.
I don't know, God, Could you imagine?
If he doesn't, then maybe you promise he doesn't have one now.
Jake Steve Farm was the only guy I can think of ever see him hang
with. You know, he's the only guy I
think he's. Let me go.
He was. He was an athlete's kid.
Like I'm sure he's having like the same quarterback coach
forever and we just don't even know anything about.
I got. He has to, yeah.
I would like to spend some more time on quarterbacks, but I
wouldn't want anybody watching or listening to think that we're
just not going to talk about the season as a whole now that it's
almost over either. You guys want to tell us where
you stand here going into the final game?
Broke. Well.
Yeah, yeah, it didn't. My, my, my final teams are not
going to take anything down. We shady, shady advice who helps
us out at legendary upside with the sidekick and everything.
He is in the five by five. I think if like Jamir Gibbs
scores like 70 then he'll he'll win that but otherwise?
Too bad they don't need the game.
Yeah. But Mike, I did want to say, you
know, really appreciate everything you're bringing to
the table as the new host and everything, but pretty
disappointed we don't have AT Higgins slide this this week.
I know, I know, TT Higgins becoming a a a a meme and then
being the guy you absolutely had to had in in in.
The must have player week 17, yeah.
I appreciate you prefacing that with a compliment toward me as
if I have anything to do with any of it.
But you know, I I appreciate the sentiment there.
Yes, that worked out the Bengals teams.
The Bengals were like maybe the story of the the league in
fantasy in best ball this year, all of it right to the end, the
deep end Invitational. Let me tell you, Yep.
Chase Brown injuring himself to avoid scoring a touchdown.
If I could just kind of GIF my season, it would be my most
drafted player that I had on every finals team.
Three dynasty finals, 2 home league finals, injuring himself,
removing himself from the game that went to overtime so that T
Higgins could get more fucking points.
That would basically be that'd basically be my season.
I mean, I've never I was I was, I was out at a bar with my wife
and her friends like at a like a birthday thing.
And I'm just like fuming and I'm trying to explain to my wife
what happened and she's like. Don't be an asshole.
Like it's not that it's not that big.
And I'm like, you literally don't understand what just I
just got a nuclear. Bomb.
You hate it. You hate hate these things too.
We're all used to it. But when they're just really
dumb, like if the Bengals kicker doesn't miss the previous kick,
like that's just it. Maybe they kick then if he
doesn't have, if he hadn't just missed one.
And you have the Falcons last night who don't go for two and
they still get the ball back and decide not to use timeouts,
which made no sense. And that sets up for ertz same
final score both games. Overtime covers for the favorite
with touchdowns that really. It's a tie game, just score the
touchdown. Chase.
It's a tie game, just score the touchdown.
Guys, I had a lot of practice sliding by the looks of it.
No. Did want to.
Did want to note that if a Colts tight end had three touchdowns,
that would have been even. Better Will Mallory Will Mallory
didn't play in that game yesterday, so there was a chance
it could have consolidated to only four guys that.
Would've been too good. Well, you know, Congrats to
anybody that's that's killing it.
I'm in the ship chasing discord and a lot of the people in there
are are new to me, but are you guys seeing anything in there
where tonight could get exciting?
Yeah, the the guy who finished third behind Korain in best Ball
Mania 3 is currently winning the puppy 3C Nice, OK, nice.
He is fading. I think like reasonable games
from Lions guys, but not like like locks.
So you know, a lot of a lot of ways.
One of the guys in in Pete's discord is winning the
eliminator right now. I think he's fading 9.2 from
Kittle to to ship the eliminator.
Yeah, my my stuff. You know what's really good is I
actually Karen did get Zach Ertz to a final after after spending
the last night, I did get Zach Ertz to a final with with Jayden
Daniels. You want to know my running
backs on that team? Samaj Samaj P Ryan's points are
counting. Samaj P Ryan outscored.
Seamos. Seamos Chase Brown, Rico
Dowdell, I mean it's the slappiest slapper room of all
time. You know, Chase Brown, Rico
Dowdell and and I got Justin Jefferson through to to every
final as well. So shout out to him for scoring
less points than Xavier Worthy. Xavier Worthy outscored Jamar
Chase in the the three-week Sprint.
I have a team in the Flock. It's the Flock 4, I think.
I think it was the only one I did with Barclay and Jefferson
and we're and and Mahomes and we're sitting a cool 81st out of
100 here going. But I have Piersol down by 90 so
you never know. It is it is funny like so if you
think about ADP this year, like what what was kind of the
biggest, I mean, Higgins became the meme that he did other than
Sam's D paid for him. It's that like we're drafting
wide receiver twos before running back ones, wide receiver
twos on their own team. It is funny that like Deponte,
Smith and T Higgins go nuts in Week 17.
Saquon. Barkley, Jaylen.
Naylor, Jaylen. Naylor, Naylor, yeah, yeah.
So like how I mean, obviously the running backs are going to
move up in price and Saquon will be very high.
But like, it didn't feel like a Week 17 that sent us back to our
respective corners, at least a little bit.
You. Know the whole I think the whole
playoffs sent everyone back to their corners.
A little. I think the the running backs
were too low and they'll move up, but I don't know that they
move up much past where they were in 2023.
What do you guys think? The big, the big difference
Karen, is going to be that the Camara, Connor analogs, the old
guys on those guys are expensive.
Again, you just are not getting like assuming James Conner comes
back to the Cardinals. And expensive.
Oh, I, I think, I think like four or five turn for James
Conner. And we'll all have none of them.
Oh I'm not super none like. Nixon like like.
Like somehow, somehow I will have less of the old guys next
year if that happens that I did this year and a year where I
also had like none of them. Like, you know, it's just
because just because Derrick Henry and Josh Jacobs, although
these guys like literally mattered none in the fantasy
playoffs. So like, just because these guys
ran hot on rushing touchdowns for one season doesn't mean that
they're not 29 anymore. Derrick Henry is going to be 31
next year and he is going to go ahead of where he went this
year. I I'm sorry dude, I just, I
can't, I can't do it. And there's McCaffrey to
consider. McCaffrey.
Yeah, I think I'm back in on McCaffrey because he's going to,
he's you're going to get a discount on him.
Like, I mean, obviously he's not going to be the one-on-one.
So by definition, but I think you get like, is he going to be
like the 1-2 turn? Like where does McCaffrey go?
You're taking Bijan over him, I think.
Bijan is RB one I think and man. Yeah, you're right.
I think he probably is RB1. Last night wasn't that game.
He's going to run for 250 yards. Every play is 8 yards downfield
untouched and then they stopped. I don't, I don't, I don't get
it. I I needed, I needed a, a Bijan
game to win my home league for the first time ever in like in
like in like 20 years. So I, it was good.
I mean, I, I've got good room. I'm up, I'm up 40 ish with Goff
versus Laporta and Jamo. So I'm I'm pretty, I'm pretty
good. But I would have liked, I would
have liked more Bijan. Obviously I do.
McCaffrey is pretty interesting though, because the the same
thing that is like he's going to be an old guy.
The only thing that really differentiates him from Henry
and Barkley in terms of like the age range stuff is that he
catches passes and he gets like every touchdown.
I mean, it's so funny Got he did well.
Kind of. Yeah, the, The funny thing is
like the the Barkley thing is, is hilarious, man.
Barkley is going to end up scoring fewer fantasy points per
game than Dalvin Cook did. And Dalvin Cook's really good
season and he's going to break the goddamn rushing record and
he's going to average like 22 points per game, which is just
like. It is, so it won't be quite that
much. I think he might be like 21.
It's a little, I'm not even know what is it like because he
doesn't really catch passes and then he's gotten look, if you're
getting sniped at the goal line by or vultured by Kenny Pickett.
Kenny Pickett who had to take a pain killing injection in his
ribs at halftime and they still ran the tush push and Kenny
Pickett had broken ribs. Back-to-back after he got ruled
down when he was in on the one play Like, all right, I'll get
away with this. Nope, same thing.
Obviously it's frustrating and Barkley is like way good enough
to like take those plays himself and it feels like it shouldn't
be happening. But was there any reason I think
it won't happen next year? You know, so you know, we talked
about. Literally, literally none.
Literally, obviously he was a smash where he went this year,
but when he goes up into like the one O 2 range, because I
agree with you, I think I think Dijon might settle as the one O
1 ultimately. I mean, there's not no one's
going to be anti Bichon. It might take a minute, but I
think I I bet, I bet he go gets up to the one O 1 and then
Barkley maybe one O 2. I.
There's there's. No way, you guys.
You guys are giving the community way too much credit.
You think he's just locked in one O 1?
Barkley is not only is he one O 1, you know how on underdog it's
like 1.2 which means sometimes the guy doesn't always go for
like 1.80. He doesn't he's going to be
1.01. He's going first every I
obviously assuming he doesn't get injured or anything.
He he like dude who? Is going to be.
If, if this is a if this is a question I can ask, who is going
to be making that argument in this space for the next six
months or eight months? Like who is who is going to be
pushing Barkley? Because this point you're making
to me seems pretty obvious. Like, I don't know, why would I
want him? Yeah, over.
I'm not, I don't think I would be taking.
I would just take Bijon. Like if you're telling me I can
get like double Bijon next year, I think I'm doing that.
I mean, I know I wouldn't say like that's like, you know, what
everyone should do or anything, but like if my personal stuff,
like if I could and maybe I'd go not double, but but if you're
telling me I can get extra Bijon and he's not because he's not
the one O 1, he's the one O 2. Let's say Gibbs.
People are also making the case. I mean, I think depending on
where Montgomery ends up, Gibbs is in a conversation too.
And then these these wide receivers are all very
attractive. So I don't know, I mean, Barkley
just going to have his backers, but I would push back that he's
going to be like the locked in. No one ever goes ahead of him
one O 1 because yeah, who's making who's making that case?
I don't know. It's not going to be you.
Well, it's. Not going to be me.
I, I would say I want to get back to quarterbacks here guys,
if, if you don't mind. So I was watching Mike Clay
yesterday morning and he made a point about next year's drafts
on Fantasy Focus. He's like, all right, who's the
quarterback? 6 And so he played it out.
We're looking at this year, the top five quarterbacks were
pretty chalky. Ultimately.
Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, Burrow, Jaden Daniels
wasn't chalky, but he gets in the top five.
Mahomes and Murray disappointments at 10:00 and
11:00. I went through the whole league
this morning and counted how many teams.
I think we have 100% certainty we know who their quarterback is
going to be. Week 1, 2025 account, 23 teams.
This is more a point toward the the rookies topic from earlier,
but I've got 10 in the AFC, not including Indianapolis or
Pittsburgh. There's at least some
uncertainty there. NFCI think the only three teams
in the NFC where we don't know who their starting quarterback
next year will be are the Vikings.
Think, and then New Orleans and the Giants.
Last year we had the Cousins speculation and what'll happen
with Justin Fields and then the Steelers.
Then you had six first round rookies.
There just are not a lot of openings this year, which is one
part of the point to to try to tear these guys for next year
with the chalk quarterbacks. Because what it was a New Year's
resolution point, Pat, on Fantasy Focus, where Mike made
this point and he said his resolution for next year is to
draft a top five QB. Because after five, who knows?
Does that feel right to you? No, that seems terrible.
It seems like the exact opposite way to play it.
That that is, that is the that's like the worst way to play
fantasy is, Oh, I feel uncertain about this thing.
So I'm just going to get warm and cozy in my in my, my top
five quarterback blanket. You're not leaning into the
uncertainty, are you? At all.
No, you, I think, yeah, you want to lean into the uncertainty.
To an extent, I mean, I think with best ball, like, you know,
you could say like, look, Daniel Jones didn't really hurt you
that much. He did enough to to get you
there. But like I had a team with with
Hertz and it crushed in week 16, except Hertz gets a concussion
and my other quarterback was Kirk Cousins.
And that team makes if if Cousins just starts that game,
you know, and then I have a quarterback in week 17 because
obviously I wouldn't have had I wouldn't have done anything
because I didn't have a quarterback.
But having if we're drafting two of these guys, one of them could
get hurt at a bad time if the other guy has gotten benched in
the single week elimination slash final weeks.
It does really hurt you if you're doing a three quarterback
build it probably, you know, you may need to worry about that
less. But in a lot of cases you're
taking one of these guys with like an elite.
If he has any bench risk, it can be a disaster.
It can cost you the potential to go to a final, which is what
happened to me. And Cousins always had that.
He always had that risk. He did always have that, which
we knew. We knew that and it was kind of
with Cousins, it was difficult because it was like it was sort
of tied to him playing poorly, like, and so you kind of lost
anyway. But you know, he had some games
this year that were pretty good. 500.
Yeah, Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Merchant
Mooney's Mooney's Buccaneers. Merchant.
But Cousins is for sure a Buccaneers merchant.
So yeah, but then he still he throws for 500 yards in the
season and get gets benched in that season.
I do not especially next year with like a quarterback class
that I do think is both not very good and not very fantasy
friendly outside of like Mill. Millrol has a good fantasy
profile but he's like erratic and could could get himself
benched and who knows where his draft capital is.
So in early stuff, I'm not going to be Elon.
Millbro is like, is like less athletic, less accurate.
Richardson like it's it's going to be, it's going to be rough.
It's going to be a rough watch. So I think to me that there I do
kind of have a line, but the line is much later than that.
Like I love looking at like guys like, you know, Goth Baker
Jordan love Dak Prescott, Justin Herbert, if Sam Darnold were to
be back with the Vikings, although if they keep McCarthy,
that gets a little risky, but he would be I would be interested
in him. Purdy then Nixon may like that
group. Gino, I think, unless they bring
in somebody. But like you saw Bryce Young is
a that's that's a little shapier because he was so bad at times
this year. Stroud, Lawrence, Stafford,
these like pocket passers with job security.
I think 2 as well. You know, you got the the
concussion concern there. You can miss a big chunk.
But the pocket passers with job security, I want to be like
done. Last year I did take a lot of
May. I was taking Knicks.
You could do stuff in the late rounds at quarterback where
you're like, I'm getting a late season upside and jobs, you
know, these guys are saved as far and they have upside this
year. Like I don't think that the
rookies have that much upside. I'm not going to be opposed to
entirely taking them, but like, yeah, I know Cam Ward, like take
shots down field and everything, but it's not it's not like a
super fantasy friendly profile. He's probably the guy to be most
interested in, but the, it's just a different, it's just a
very different setup from like the players that were getting
injected into the league, You know, So I, I just want to make
sure that I'm not taking on Richardson, right.
Don't give me Richardson's bench risk is going to be massive.
I still think Young has Bryce Young still has significant
bench risk. Like any, any of the, any of the
guys who could actually lose jobs, like dudes who kind of end
up as starters, the like this year's Minshew or, you know,
2025's Minshew type guy who falls into a job.
I don't want to have like any of that guy because it's like the
chances I'm holding the job for the year are so low.
How care to quantify that bench risk on Bryce Young?
Didn't they sort of make it work, but maybe not not well
enough? Made it work to nine straight
losses is how I would is how I would put it.
How how much is that? I mean, you're going to learn a
lot. You're going to learn a lot
about Bryce based on who else is in the quarterback room with
him. Is it is it Andy Dalton again?
Is it Joe Flacco? Is it did they take a third
round quarter? Do they take Jackson Dart?
They take Jackson Dart with a 97th pick in the NFL draft.
You know, so I, I think it's interesting.
Young looks a lot better than he did earlier in the season.
And the comment here, Bryce Young doesn't have interest just
because he was benched this year.
But like, yes, he does like that like a guy, the fact that a guy,
if you're thinking about who's most likely to get benched, a
previous benching would be like a a good data point to keep in
mind. Like this.
This coaching staff has given up on this, the same coaching staff
and they've already given up on this dude for a stretch.
And it took a car accident to get him back on the field and he
looked a lot better than he did before.
And there's optimism going into this year, but like we we're
always optimistic entering a season, you know, that's the way
it works. And like, it feels a little
legacy to me now where it's like, yeah, we're going to give
him the year. And but by the end of the year,
they'll just be like, this isn't working.
We're we're losing games. Like we it's a third year of
this guy's career and we've won four games.
Like we're going to, you know, give the backup shot whatever
dude they bring in. It's the right point.
Winning is the right point. They have one regulation wins
since Week 3 or something, but they gave up 558 yards
yesterday. I don't know.
I'd be, I'm, I'm intrigued, but there's so many interesting
names there and they're kind of really hard to rank, right?
What is Justin Herbert next year?
I mean, we have to see. What they get if they get, if
they get Luther, if they get Luther Burden and they sign.
I don't, I haven't started to look at who the free agent wide
receiver class is. But if you replace, you know,
Darius Davis and and DJ Shark and Josh Palmer with guys who
can play, you know, Will Disley, who is a converted defensive
end, is his tight end, You know, like, no disprespect to Will
Disley, but like, I think Harbaugh already kind of passed
the biggest part of the test for Burt's fantasy value, which is
sure, young man. Yeah.
You want like, we'll do what you we'll do what you want to do.
We are we are not going to force you to run the Wing T.
You know, like the chargers in the second-half of the season
being top ten in PROE would have not been on anyone's bingo card.
No, not I mean they invested nothing in their running backs.
So like that is maybe something you could be concerned about.
Like what if they spend what if the Chargers are the G&T team?
Chargers could be the there's. I don't think there's any reason
the Chargers couldn't be the G&T team.
That would maybe give you pause a little bit.
I'll tell you one thing though, boy, am I really hoping that
Mahomes like I hope the Chiefs win the Super Bowl playing
boomer ball because there will be no return for me.
I will just run this year back if he looks great and they look
great and worthy looks great and he's the quarterback 12.
I mean, I'll just there's just no way that I will not be in on
that and I'll just have to do this whole experience again.
I'd. Have to.
Be like 12. I mean, he's, he's great.
He can. He can pay off Quarterback 12.
I don't know not the the the version of him this year cannot
pay off quarterback 12 because he he doesn't he doesn't run.
They don't throw deep at all. One of Hopkins or Hollywood will
not be on the team next year. I I think internally they'd
probably like to keep one of them.
Yeah, I don't know, but quarterback 12 Mahomes, I mean,
my God, I just. Yeah, Right now that's Caleb on
my list, quarterback 12 for this season, total points.
You want T Higgins. If I want to sort of hold my own
and make AT Higgins Point, put him in LA.
Oh, yeah? Well, he's a patriot.
The Patriots are giving him 100. They're giving him $160 million.
He's going to reset the quarterback market.
Yes, yeah, he he is going to get, he is going to get just due
to happenstance just kind of the way things are playing when he
became available, the teams that need him, the teams with cap
space, he he is going to get paid.
I mean, he he might legitimately get like Justin Jefferson money.
I I'm not I'm really not even kidding.
I'm not. No, I think you're right.
Yeah, there's several teams that really desperately need him.
And I mean the Bengals completely mismanaged the
situation to not even have Chase done yet.
They don't even have Chase done. They're going to have to pay
Chase an extra $8 million a year just because they didn't get it
done. I mean, unbelievable.
This. Team.
It's crazy, man, it's so funny. I mean.
It would be it would be nice to have them keep this together,
but. It will be an interesting, I
think we've talked about this AFC playoff where it not being
so clear, where the top teams have wide receiver 1, elite wide
receiver, one who's wide receiver 2.
Cincinnati almost definitely won't make it.
Buffalo is all over the place. Kansas City is a little bit all
over the place. You know, turning to the
playoffs and these drafts, what's different?
What did you guys notice? And you're drafting, I think
you're drafting a lot. What's changing in there?
You've got Minnesota now with a look at the BI, which I think
maybe we mostly weren't taking seriously.
Tampa is back on top of Atlanta that probably flipped last week.
And maybe Tampa, maybe you were drafting Tampa cheap last week
just in case they would lose this game to Washington, Atlanta
where they were underdogs. And I wonder about Baltimore to
getting the lead in the AFC North, where people already,
whichever of these you might want to start with Pat or Davis,
where people already buying the idea of the Ravens, even though
it looked like they couldn't start, they could start the
playoffs on the road. I actually Baltimore is the most
overvalued team relative to their Super Bowl odds in the
whole thing. Which is not to say you
shouldn't pick them because you just, if you're going to drop
150 teams, you got to have exposure.
The, The funny thing that's happening now is basically
every, all the, all the hope. There's no, there's no hope.
It's, it's, it's all, there are three AFC teams that people want
to draft. There are four NFC teams that
people want to draft. No one wants a Texan.
No one wants the Steelers. I guess people kind of want the
Rams and the Buccaneers just for a week for wild card week
advance rates, like just just for the points.
Yes, Sack Sack is making a very funny point, which is that you
can actually get Bills players whenever you want now because
they haven't looked good on national TV in two weeks,
despite like things like actually improving for them.
On DK, because there's so many bills, I built A-Team yesterday
or the day before where I did like Josh Allen, Justin
Jefferson, Josh Jacobs and then I got like Aaron Jones later and
I, but I just like took, I just like pushed the bills.
I kept doing fun stuff. And then at the end I got like
Ty Johnson, Matt, Matt Collins. I think I got like Amari and
Coleman and Knox. Yeah, Knox was a priority
actually, because I didn't have Kincaid and that has tight end.
But I was just like, you know, by the time you get to the Super
Bowl, if you that's one of six to advance over on DK.
It's like if I show up to the Super Bowl with like 6 bills and
a starting line up of 6, I think I'm pretty locked.
You know if they if they make, even if it's not Packers or.
Vikings it's also it's also probably the likeliest it's been
for any of these teams that haven't gotten a bye this whole
time. I mean, they they're almost the
betting equivalent of the Chiefs with the Chiefs getting to play
one fewer game and have home field.
So it's Buffalo has been the bet.
If you thought it was. We didn't know until Christmas
Day whether Kansas City would lock down the one.
People were still betting against that going into that
game in Pittsburgh. But now we know.
And so the Bills will play almost definitely Davis Denver
in the first round mean Denver wins against the backup Chiefs,
and that's that. Man, I don't know, It's like a
real funny thing is Kansas City. Would you rather a shitty team
that has no chance of beating you in the playoffs get in, or
would you rather beat them and then make your two biggest
rivals have to play the most annoying team you know?
Well, the the rest of that is if the Bengals were to win in
Buffalo, then they would, they would get the Chiefs or the
Chiefs would get them like you'd have, you'd have to.
Play them, Yeah. You don't want to set yourself
up for Bengals round, you know your round one.
The, the, the Bengals are so extremely unserious.
They are, They are world records for unseriousness.
This, this organization like I, to be, to be frank, famous last
words. Maybe I I'm not that scared of
having to play the Bengals. The the Bills are way more
terrifying than the Bengals are, and I don't.
Agree the the Bengals can put up points, they're they're similar
to the Bills or they can put up points.
Like, I know you can put a points against them, but like,
that's not really what the Chiefs are doing right now.
I don't know man, I just like Burrow.
Just like takes these awful sacks.
Like these sacks with Burrow. I actually looked this up.
I wanted to tweet it but people know I'm such a Bengals hater.
I didn't he the last the last three years.
You know the only two quarterbacks who have a a worse
sack rate on 3rd down than Joe Burrow.
Just guess it's the two funniest names you can imagine.
A worse sack right on 3rd down it's.
Not going to be Stroud then. Justin Fields.
Funnier Funnier than Justin Fields.
Christian Hackenberg. No, dude, it's it's Russell
Wilson and Bryce Young. Oh God.
Well, that's kind of always been a part of the Bengals thing.
Remember Burrow talking about that on a podcast a couple years
ago? Yeah, and, and he lied.
He lied. I remember.
Kevin Cole looks up. He's like, oh, well, actually I
don't do it if we're in field goal range.
I only do that if I'm trying to keep the play alive.
And then you watch him play and you're like, dude, you literally
just got out of field goal range with this.
I just watched you do it. Kevin Cole looked it up.
It's it's neutral. His, his, his, you know, cross
the 40 and outside the 40. That's so funny because on the
on the broadcast, they'll still just take him at face value and
be like, he knows he knows when to take that.
He knows, he knows the situation.
He's a real smart guy, Joe bro, real, real, real intelligent
quarterback. You know, he's just kind of
always one step ahead as he. Another task.
As he takes another terrible. He does OK though.
He still does OK. Real out of character there from
Joe taking him out of. Field Rd.
No, it is. It's the.
And from Davis? It's it's the uncharacteristic
sack there, which was like the old uncharacteristic drop from
Edelman where it was like, he just does it all the time.
Leads the league in passing yards and passing touchdowns.
I think they're scary. I I think the Buffalo butt, so
to speak, is takeaways and turnovers because they are
basically first in the league in both fewest turnovers and most
takeaways. And you never know, you don't
know how to predict this. But you get to the playoffs, you
know, the, the pass rushes are a little better.
Allen never get sacked against The Jets and the Patriots and
the teams they most of the teams they play and they've just been
so right in protecting the ball and they've taken it away like
crazy. And that's just not going to be
as likely in these postseason games against good teams.
So that's my biggest concern with the Bills.
I think they're a little bit built on that turnover luck,
both sides of the ball this year.
Doesn't mean they're not equally draftable for four games in
these tournaments. I mean, they're absolutely the
team to. They've been like sort of where
are you guys? Davis, you say the Ravens are
are pretty overpriced and I I felt that way like a a couple
weeks ago. Now, obviously they took the
three seed, but when I really felt that way, it looked like
they were going to be, you know, playing Rd. games to the
Steelers right, right, but they they moved up significantly in
price. Lamar's like the one O 2.
That part of it I I'm like fairly OK with because
quarterback dries up so quickly. So it's like you're staying if
you're not being the guy gets locked out of quarterback if you
take Lamar one O 2 and that's nice, but it is like Josh Allen
to me feels a lot stronger and he I know he's the one O 1, but
he he feels like a big drop off. And I still think I like Hertz
to to be the guy who kind of storms through.
Why don't we take the why don't we take the the quarterback from
the team that's favored to win the conference at 2:00?
This is which? Which guy are you talking about?
Gawk or Mahomes? Mahomes, I think.
Well, I mean, I think there's an equal argument for both.
I agree that Allen, the combination of having the wild
card game, being a great fantasy point scorer, clearly being a
team that could beat the Chiefs and having good conference
championship equity, like he should clearly be the one.
But in the Davis Maddock mental math rankings, I I think I think
Hertz is the two and Mahomes should be the three.
That is, that is my opinion. What about?
Donald. I mean, Donald's a pretty good
pick. He's he's steaming up.
Here's the issue, Mike. I might have already drafted 200
dead teams because I took the Vikings as.
My. I took the Vikings as my back
door team. I took my Vikings.
Just give me some wild card points buddy.
Yeah, yeah. You could still get there.
There are three-point underdog in Detroit.
You could still get there. Man, that's going to be a hell
of a game. What a high stakes regular
season game. My brother's a Vikings fan.
He's like, this has got to be, I mean, he's like, it has to be
basically the highest stakes regular season game of the
Vikings. Franchise history.
Probably Lions franchise history.
It's the first week 18 game. Most wins.
Since since no to determine the one seed since the 80s.
Wow, OK, most wins ever in a finale, too.
They said that last night. Green Bay sitting there at the
seven at Philadelphia at 7 versus 2 in the first round and
then Packers and Lions or Packers and Vikings for the
third time. Green Bay.
Didn't they go O and two against both teams this year?
We saw what happened last year with the Packers.
Yeah, I think Packers are a good.
I mean, Jacobs is expensive now, but not like crazy expensive.
It pairs well with like the, you know, the one O 11O2 stuff.
There's lots of Packers receivers to take.
They cover buys if you want. To do I'm done.
I I'm like I'm like taking Jordan love Tucker craft last
two rounds if I need it. I, I watched Matt Lafleur called
a delayed handoff on 2nd and 10 down to touchdowns at Minnesota
and I was like, you know what? If this guy wants to be serious,
he's got First off, he called the delayed handoff for Emmanuel
Wilson as well. Not even Jacobs, not even the
engine, not even the guy who's like the, the, the, the best or
whatever, you know? It's a setup.
They had nothing to play for. They were down already.
It's a setup. Watch out.
Be afraid for Green Bay if you're drafting Philadelphia or
whoever. I think, I think we'll serve
really good. Purple Yosh says, you know, love
kind of proven it's overrated here and it's been a
disappointing season for love. But like love that it looks
disappointing is because of volume.
They don't drop back. Like if they're forced to drop
back or if they're to your point, Mike, if they're playing
a little bit differently in the playoffs, then I think they
could surprise. Love was so good last year.
And then if you look at like efficiency, even an EPA per
game, it looks pretty good. But EPA plays pretty like very
solid. It just doesn't have a lot of
plays. And you know, it's hard.
It's always hard when a team has an identity built around the
run. And they they just brought in
Josh Jacobs and they feed him and he's played very well.
So most likely scenario is that that's who they are.
But if they were to lean on the pass a little bit more.
I think a a fun long shot team is the Chargers if you it's a
narrative based thing. But if you buy into like the
Ravens playoff failures, that might be your 6 versus 3.
And Mcconkey is likable in these things.
What I didn't get a chance to say it before, but when we were
talking about Chargers, Patriots and we'd come off, I think maybe
just then the Bryce Young point like beat somebody.
Herbert, I likes New England as a bet in that game West to East
early on Saturday. And he's like, I'm not losing.
I'm sorry. Like he he was really good in
that game. And that's what everybody has
wanted from Justin Herbert is, you know, you talking about the
coaching staff all right here. And he's like, fine, Josh
Palmer, here you go. Johnston, guys that nobody
thinks are good. Here you go.
Mcconkey is always open and it was New England, but I mean, it
was 40 to 7. So they'll have the Raiders this
week and be pretty well positioned for the six or even
the five. If Pittsburgh loses, they move
up and play Houston. I might think they'd be favored
in Houston. And then it's the Chiefs, who
they play all the time. And it was one play this year.
I, I, I could talk myself. I just did into LA LALA Super
Bowl. Their wide receiver, too, is
Quinton Johnston. Yeah, but they're, I mean, they
are well coached. I was skeptical of Greg Roman.
And I think, you know, it is a little disappointing to have a
guy who's not like super aggressive with Justin Herbert.
But they've definitely been less boomery than I was worried they
might be. Greg Roman, year 1.
Greg Roman, year one. That's always what you want,
Pat. That's true.
Yeah. He's he's he's decent in year 1.
But yeah, I mean, Harbaugh is a is a good coach.
So you, you have that going for you.
And yeah, Herbert's really good. Like taking, isn't that the Bill
Simmons thing? You, you take the best
quarterback in these playoff games.
You're getting, you're getting a good quarter.
You're getting, you're getting a better quarterback when they
play when they play the Texans. Unfortunately, Stroud does not
look like up to Herbert's level right now.
Well, as we wind down here, I just want to quickly mention one
of my favorite leagues this year is a league that I completely
ripped off the idea from the guys at RotoWire about 8 or 10
years ago when I started getting into fantasy football.
And that's the stake league as they called it.
Or you had 12 guys. Anybody out there, you're
welcome to. You know, I, I recommend this as
a concept. There's no entry, but you have a
12 team draft. And then the next year, middle 4
pay for their own. Everybody goes out to dinner
together. Middle 4 pays for their own,
bottom 4 pays for themselves and the top four.
And so it turns into a pretty big night and it you know,
there's no like you don't see it in your account here when you
when you when you win. But I'm excited to have been in
the top four in the steak league.
I think that's a really fun way the the next year you draft and
then eat, you draft and then eat.
So it's a great nice. That is, that is a that is a
very cool idea for a league. You would you would like for
posterity to see the number up at the top change, but it
doesn't. True.
So we have time to briefly jump back to the quarterback thing
and talk Caleb Williams, because I'm very curious about how you
guys are thinking about him next year.
He's dying to be. In quarterback, my head is in
the sand. My head, my head could not be
more in the sand. I just I I'm hoping that Ben
Johnson is the head coach of the Chicago Bears and I will simply
pretend the bad rookie year never happened.
I won't read any of Scott Barrett's tweets, and I will.
I will just keep buying. I would say with the Scott
Barrett, because he he's had accuracy and sack avoidance a
couple metrics there. He was like the worst ever that
they had, which is obviously not good.
But when you look at something like EPA per play, which is a
bit more holistic, he's bad, but he's not nearly as bad.
He's much, much better than like a Zach Wilson or even a Bryce
Young meltdown season from last year.
But I, I mean, it seems crazy to say, but does he have Bentress
next year in a Bryce Young in kind of way?
Not if they hire. Not if they hire like a fancy,
you know, like if they do. The like a Canalis type.
Like a Dave Canalis type. Not Pete Carroll, you mean?
I mean, First off, I. Mean, that's what that's what
the Sanders did. They brought in the Guru.
First off, I think you're being unfair to Caleb.
I just think that is that is my opinion, not a widely held
opinion at this point. The the YouTube chats, all
various YouTube chats have totally turned against Caleb
Williams. So this is very brave of me to
be I. Think I'm being fair by pointing
out that his the, you know, in the most predictive metric, he's
he's bad but not horrendous. So I think the bench risk is
going to be much higher if they hire an Everflues type, if they
hire a defensive CEO type, then absolutely if they, if they.
Hire Ant. By the way, Andrew, in the chat
about Pete Carroll, Adam Schefter literally responded to
that article. It said it was bullshit.
He said he said not, not happening.
No Pete Carroll for the Bears. The Bears wouldn't do that
anyways because the Bears don't want to spend a bunch of money
on a coach and Pete Carroll would want a bunch of money.
How could? Ben Johnson, take that job.
I mean, Shope, you don't want to be the the second fiddle your
whole life, man. He doesn't want to just be the
offensive coordinator at the. No, I, I agree.
I think he'll be a head coach, but he got away with the gambit
this year. They might win it.
That helps. And then to go from Detroit to
Chicago, the EP, the quintessential place where
offense goes to die. I mean, I don't think I would
want to do that. I think I'd want to be he got
again this year worked out for him.
Although we could have had Daniels but somewhere better
not. That's nothing against Williams
either, but I think he could probably do better.
Here's the deal. Just the YouTube chat.
They're not football guys. They just don't know.
They just don't know that Caleb is him.
They just don't know he's good. He's a good player.
I don't know if he's him. I think it's him, his, him.
Odds have cratered. His, his, him odds.
They're like half of Jaden Daniels.
That's the thing that it all is worse in comparison because
Daniels is just like so clearly him, just like so clearly
franchise quarterback change the whole direction.
He's him capital H, capital I, capital M, And so it makes Caleb
look worse. Dynasty Dynasty start up Is he
top 10 quarterbacks? For me, yes.
No, I don't think so. I.
Think it's close. I think that's that's the line
right there. I need to.
Yeah, I need to. I need to so.
The guys in the league. From Danielsborough Mahomes.
I'm about to go send some trades right now.
I'm about to go. I'm about to get, I'm about to
get in the lab. I've got I've got first this
man, It's a terrible. Draft like I would I would take
I would take May over a mint dynasty now.
Herbert. The call's coming up from inside
the house, Patrick. But is that is that even
controversial? Like he just looks like may can
play the quarterback position at the NFL level.
Like for sure, his supporting class absolutely sucks.
His coaching sucks. It's probably going to suck next
year. But like what?
What concerns do you have about him?
Is like, can you do it? Caleb is struggling with stuff
that like gets that ends careers.
This is what ended Fields his career.
Really. I mean, it's a starter.
Like he takes too many sacks. Like sacks kill careers.
You guys got to go see Darnold in the locker room after that
win yesterday. If he didn't like how are they
possibly letting him go after this season?
Maybe they'll be. People are going to be really
mad when they do let him go. I predict.
I predict that'll be the most people get mad about something
in the NFL this offseason when they say, Sam, thank you for
your service. I can't.
I can't see him doing it. We'll see if they win rounds
that would maybe settle it, but New Year's this week.
You have to franchise. You have to franchise Darnold,
right? I think that's the correct move,
yeah. How do you guys spend New
Year's? I know, Pat, you're out east
here with your family, right? We're flying home.
That's our big New Year's plans, this flying back to California
and picking up our dog from the sitter and then.
In theory, the least crazy thing ever.
If you had a late night flight, you could, you know, have happy
New Year like three times on that flight.
Yeah. You could take it right out
true. Yeah, yeah, You plan it right,
Davis. I got to go do some shit out of
the house, which I hate, I really do.
I'm such a, I'm such a, an indoor cat these days.
But I will be, I'll be out. I'll be out in about the the
local, the Blues are playing in the Winter Classic, So it's like
a big, it's like a big bar day. I actually wanted to go, but it
just didn't work out. We didn't have anyone to watch
our puppy and she's a handful but.
No doubt you got to see them lose to Buffalo yesterday.
I don't care. I don't care about the Blues.
I like the avalanche, but it's just like a thing around here.
Sure, Wrigley Field. You know the Winter Classic is a
win when they put it on a Tuesday at 3:00.
It's not a hallway. It's a fun event.
The first one ever was here. It's one of my favorite sporting
events I've ever been to. What do you guys have coming up
today or this week in terms of content?
Lot of playoff basketball. I'll I'll be live immediately
after this actually, so the people get redirected right
there. Yeah, plus we're going to do a
stream tonight. Kind of a sweat, but also
drafting playoff basketball teams over on Legendary Upside
YouTube. And then later in the week, once
I'm back home, we're going to do a bunch of playoff basketball
stuff. I'll try to wake up with you,
Davis, and do some content as well.
All right. Cool.
Yeah, playoff baseball, we've got the the sidekicks cooking
over on DraftKings and underdog and yeah, drafted.
This is I think this is the week I'm going to try to get in like
the most volume I have so far as I finally get get some time to
to get in the lab and and, you know, not be doing so much
family get together stuff, I can actually draft.
So I'm very excited, draft a lot of.
Playoffs. You can see the gleam in his
eyes. Davis is afraid to go outside.
He's he's dreading it. Here's bad.
I can't wait to get away from my family as they're draft.
I love the family, it's nice to see them, but not too many
drafts, you know, that's. The that's OK, we all love your
family. I'll be on WGR in Buffalo in
less than an hour talking about the Bills situation and the
playoff picture. Eric Wood, one of my guests
today, Ross Tucker tomorrow. That's on the Odyssey app.
Happy new year, guys. Thanks to everybody for watching
and listening. We'll see you next week here on
ADP Chasing. Yeah, and I'm going to pull up.
Later.