1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,960 All right, we are back. We did one of these before the 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,160 NFL draft, just selecting these players based on their projected 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:09,680 draft capital and their profiles. 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,960 Well, now we have the landing spot, so we had to get a crew 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:17,800 together for a post NFL draft dynasty Superflex Titan premium 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,120 rookie mock draft to help us out. 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,840 We got the late round QB JJ. We got Andrew Cooper I believe 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,320 making his ship chasing debut and of course Dwayne McFarland 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,840 from Fantasy Life, joining myself, Pat, Karen and Jacob 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,360 Sanderson. This is ship chasing. 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:37,960 Let's do it, Pat Fryer, Helmo. This is what? 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,880 This is what I'm hot. Anita hand job. 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,600 Fix your side for. Jamar alpha play Chase. 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,560 Are you kidding me? You. 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,160 Can't handle the heat. It looks like we're finally at 16 00:00:50,160 --> 00:01:01,040 this point too, right? All right, we are here. 17 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,200 Ready to go. Let's go around the horn real 18 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,320 quick, Coop. Is this indeed your first ship 19 00:01:06,320 --> 00:01:09,200 chasing appearance? First time on ship chasing. 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,680 I was on your other show where you made me drink a bunch of 21 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,880 milk and like go up in my attic looking for stars that you don't 22 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,360 do that on this one. Yeah, if you want to drink milk, 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,440 you're welcome to, I thought. That was like more your idea. 24 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,320 I think the wheel just kind of gave you the nudge. 25 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:26,840 I don't think, I don't think any of it was my idea, brother, but 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,400 I'm happy to be here and I appreciate you throwing a little 27 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,840 tight end premium on there so we can find our way through 2 full 28 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,440 rounds of these clowns, right? Yeah, yeah. 29 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,000 That wasn't even just for you. That was literally we need, I 30 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,800 mean, we might even have to go like Punter Premium just to make 31 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,720 this this thing more interesting. 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,840 But Dwayne, can we find something to love in this 2026 33 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,360 rookie class? Yeah, look, we can always find 34 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,040 something to love. There's just less to love, you 35 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,160 know? I mean, but we can find 36 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,360 something, you know? And look, the NFL draft probably 37 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,240 for you guys too, like it's my favorite time of the year. 38 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,080 It's like this. And then like, you know, 39 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,640 probably the weekend before the season starts when I'm trying to 40 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,800 pack in like, you know, 30 drafts. 41 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,600 Like I, I just love those two times. 42 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,680 And then the unveil we get in the early part of the season. 43 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,800 So well, it's not a great class. Like we still have fun with it 44 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,480 man. Yup, JJ, we, we talked a little 45 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,720 bit on After Dark the other night. 46 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,880 You're coming off of a draft guide update. 47 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,080 Are you in the the throes of any rookie drafts yourselves right 48 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,760 now? Yeah, lots of them. 49 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,400 And I got to just thank David Kitchen for all the help with 50 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,720 the prospect guide this year. Yeah, he he told you you had to 51 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:40,880 name drop him within the first. Jacob, I thought you were going 52 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,720 to call out sick today. Parentheses, squirrel incident. 53 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,440 But you are here. Thank you for battling the 54 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:47,960 elements to continue to broadcast. 55 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,920 Look my my window is completely locked shut. 56 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,560 I sleep in fear of death at this point in this apartment. 57 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,800 And every, every day that I get to live is a blessing. 58 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,720 But yeah, the, the squirrels are, are coming to get me. 59 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,360 It's been two straight days of squirrel invasions. 60 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,320 Yesterday's was was unsuccessful. 61 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,160 But, you know, they, they tried their best and I think they're 62 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,840 going to try again as soon as possible. 63 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,000 Jacob's living through like a final destination movie 64 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,760 multiple. He was in a cartel war like 2 65 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,440 months ago and now he's been squirrels attacking him. 66 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,640 Good point. It's it's. 67 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,560 Tough man like Elise, Elise. Elise got Gavin McKenna. 68 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,000 That's the only thing I can cling to is as like we as I 69 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,600 battle the squirrels and cartel. I will just say that Jacob, I'm 70 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,920 very happy for your safety, but if a squirrel had jumped on you, 71 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,760 I would have told Zach Lanars to literally stop everything he's 72 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,840 doing and add that clipped new ship chasing montage. 73 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,000 I would have been like, that has to be in there right fucking 74 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:58,120 now. So like someone asked Frankie to 75 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,560 chat ass. Have I ever heard of a screen? 76 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,920 And and that's a great question, Frankie, because first of all, 77 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,320 like Vancouver in a pre global warming era, like basically 78 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,720 didn't get warm. So no one has air conditioning 79 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,000 here. It's like an air conditioning 80 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,320 free city basically outside of very, very new buildings. 81 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,040 And when I moved in, I asked, it's like, hey, like I'm going 82 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,519 to need to open the windows in here a lot because there's, 83 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:22,280 there's no air conditioning. Like what happened to my 84 00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:23,640 screens? They must be missing. 85 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,440 And the building manager was like, no, we don't have any in 86 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,760 this building. Like you just kind of open the 87 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,800 windows and hope for the best. So like, yeah, it's, it's, it is 88 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,640 a building that's screenless. And so like I'm, I'm kind of 89 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,240 camping in my apartment every night. 90 00:04:36,280 --> 00:04:39,640 I saw you jump on on social media but I didn't have the all 91 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,920 the contacts but now I understand there was not a 92 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,600 screen there so that makes. More like that window dude. 93 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,840 Live a little man. Give the kids some contact. 94 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:49,840 Yeah, look, look at Jacob. He's got, he's got the blinds 95 00:04:49,840 --> 00:04:51,240 drawn. He's Jacob. 96 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:53,240 'S about to be. Jacob's about to be Snow White 97 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,560 in a couple of weeks. Jacob was just taking a nap 98 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,640 before. You know you know your building 99 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,640 manager has screens in his place, right? 100 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,160 Yours is the one part. But you sacrificed you to the 101 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,000 squirrels, dude. That's right. 102 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,000 Yeah. Pat, you, you witnessed that 103 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,920 live. Your reaction was pretty good. 104 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,400 Shops was my favorite because he just looked like he was looking 105 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,600 at like hockey, you know, NFL draft order and this is just. 106 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,760 Kind of clicking through some some pics on slow dress, yeah. 107 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,400 All right, let's, let's get into it. 108 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,240 We are going to do, we're going to do 24 picks. 109 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,160 So each of us are going to get 2 picks in round, 1-2 picks in 110 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:30,960 round two. It is tight in premium. 111 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:36,440 It is super flex and your boy has been deving hard. 112 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,320 I mean, call me David Kitchen. Look at that web. 113 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,080 App here. We do have a randomized button, 114 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,600 so once I randomize it, this will be the order it will just 115 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,400 snake. We're not doing the thing where 116 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,240 it's one of us ends up with four picks in a row, so it'll be 117 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,280 123456 you. Did lock yourself as the 101 118 00:05:55,280 --> 00:05:57,560 like Davis did? No, see, I did a better 119 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,920 randomized button than Davis. Davis quit on his Deving and I 120 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,680 actually saw this one through. So without for further ado, 121 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,840 here's the randomize button. Jacob Sanderson draws the one O 122 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:11,400 1 here. That's boring. 123 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,240 It's, I mean like if you're in a real rookie draft, you're pumped 124 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,480 to have the one O 1 because it's so much better than every pick. 125 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,800 But if you're doing content like, there's nothing worse than 126 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:24,520 than having the one O 1. Well, do you want to? 127 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:29,080 I know you've already spilled like 20,000 words worth of ink 128 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,400 on on this draft class, but do you want to say anything that 129 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,160 hasn't been said about Jeremiah Love? 130 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,640 Yeah, I mean, I will be taking Jeremiah Love and he, I think 131 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,920 he's fantastic. I think the most interesting 132 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,080 debate on Jeremiah Love is like, would you prefer him or Gente in 133 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,440 dynasty today? I think that's like a more 134 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,880 interesting conversation than comparing him with, you know, 135 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,360 Tate or Mendoza or Tyson. So but I'll, I'll take him. 136 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,320 I'm pretty honestly, I'm pretty excited about him this year, 137 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,480 maybe compared to the market. I think there's a lot of 138 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,040 opportunities for him to have a lot of receiving production in 139 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,000 Arizona, just given there's not really any other receiving back 140 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,400 on the roster. A lot of pocket quarterbacks are 141 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:05,800 probably going to be trailing a ton. 142 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,800 So yeah, probably the only guy in the class that you're you're 143 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,280 locking in as a very major contributor. 144 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,920 Yeah, he, he projects like, well, like it's because of the 145 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,400 receiving stuff Jacob's talking about. 146 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,320 I only have him at 58% of the attempt. 147 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,120 So like I'm assuming like the OR sorry, I've got him at 63% of 148 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,840 the attempt. So I'm assuming Al Jare gets 149 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,560 like 30%. But I'm definitely giving the 150 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,440 receiving work to love at 58% route participation. 151 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,600 He's at a 12% target share, which could be modest like to be 152 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,760 honest, which we try to project at the median. 153 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,960 So then the model can handle the ceiling and floor calculation. 154 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,080 So I'm I'm with Jacob like he projects still in half PPR as 155 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,040 the running back 15 and like you know, you get him at the end of 156 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,240 round two right now in underdog. Yeah, and a lot of rookies like 157 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,160 the problem they run into is they can't pass block. 158 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,760 Like Travian Henderson had that problem, but this dude literally 159 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,000 never once allowed a sack in college so I really don't see 160 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,200 that's going to be a problem for him either. 161 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,040 JJ if you were to build-a-bear case, like, how does this look 162 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,280 bad in hindsight outside of injury? 163 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,320 I mean, I think there's a possibility that the target 164 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,800 chair isn't as strong. I mean, I'm not projecting that 165 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,440 per SE, but you know, it's a, it's a brand new off. 166 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,080 I feel like the way that people are viewing Arizona is kind of 167 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,480 skewed at the moment just because it's almost as if 168 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,880 there's no consideration of it's a completely different coaching 169 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,480 staff and new coaching staff. And you know, like there's a lot 170 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,000 of assumptions about passing volume, for instance, when they 171 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,280 led the league in past attempts last year and such. 172 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:37,799 But yeah, I mean, like, they should be in a negative game 173 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:39,720 script and such. And that that should help 174 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,320 Jeremiah Love. But yeah, I mean, the, the the 175 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,400 bear case is that the offense is just absolute trash and Tyler 176 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,760 Algiers taking all the goal line work and the target share isn't, 177 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,120 you know, in that like 1213% range and it's instead in like 178 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,840 the 9% range or something. And that's how, you know, he 179 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,680 doesn't live up. But but I, I also think that 180 00:08:55,680 --> 00:08:58,960 people are, are gonna comp this to the Ash and Genti situation 181 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,560 last year. And realistically, you know, 182 00:09:01,560 --> 00:09:04,360 Genti versus like ADP expectation played a little bit 183 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,280 below expectation in terms of his points per game. 184 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,000 But where you're getting Jeremiah love, if he were to get 185 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,960 Ashton Gente production, that's actually not bad with where he's 186 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,160 getting. And that's, that's probably more 187 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:14,480 of like a median outcome for him. 188 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,760 Yeah, Pat, anything else on Love? 189 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,880 No, yeah, I, I think JJ kind of laid out the bear case pretty 190 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,680 nicely. I I think, you know, he is more 191 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:29,160 of like an explosive type of like when you think about how 192 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,200 does he, how is he kind of different as a running back? 193 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,760 It's going to be explosive runs and receiving and kind of fun 194 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,240 stuff. He's less like Gente is this 195 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,360 kind of just like workhorse. Like even if the situation goes 196 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,440 bad, he's just going to get all the touches. 197 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:50,720 So, you know, he is like, like, I guess you can compare it to 198 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,000 kind of like Breece Hall, you know, where you're sometimes 199 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,200 you're just like, God damn it, this is like, I know this guy's 200 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:01,560 good, but this is not fun. So I still think he'll be like, 201 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,320 OK. But yeah, it just, it is, it is 202 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,720 a bit of a bummer that he landed here instead of somewhere where 203 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,280 we could actually get excited about him, like elevating an 204 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,840 already good offense. The Cardinals don't give and get 205 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,600 in the Flack for being one of the worst organizations in the 206 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,480 league in all the major world. Right? 207 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:23,200 Like literally have been a team for 100 years and are tied for 208 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,160 the fewest playoff wins. It was it. 209 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,600 Was a horrible, It was a horrible draft pick. 210 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,880 It was a horrible pick, yeah. Just a disgusting decision. 211 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,640 They're tied with the Tech team for the fewest playoff wins. 212 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,560 The Texans became the team in 2010. 213 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,120 We all laughed when that report came out that the Cardinals are 214 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,920 considering because we're like, this is the worst kind of trade 215 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,160 language rumor ever and they're fucking serious. 216 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,560 Friedman hasn't projected the lowest for in the in his game 217 00:10:53,560 --> 00:10:56,840 model for win total, he's got him at 4.7, which is. 218 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:58,800 Yeah. I mean, I mean, I believe. 219 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,760 It which makes it hard to move down the pass rate JJ like. 220 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,160 The apparent quarterback one is Jacoby Brissett, who's like 221 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,000 currently having a holdout like have you is there a worse 222 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,080 quarterback situation in NFL history than our plan A is 223 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,680 Jacoby Brissett? And he's not even like willing 224 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:17,360 to show up to camp like it's it's a remarkable situation. 225 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,520 Who would and I mean to the to the pass rate point. 226 00:11:19,560 --> 00:11:22,520 I, I agree that they're like PROE is probably not gonna be 227 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:23,880 high. I would even say it's probably 228 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,200 gonna be negative. I think it's. 229 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,720 Probably the biggest reason that their pass rate was so high last 230 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,480 year. And I get the defensive things 231 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,120 swinging year to year and there's averaging. 232 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,400 And I'm not saying we should copy and paste what happened 233 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,280 last year, but a lot of the systemic aspects to that were 234 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,240 just their defense was complete trash and they spent their day 235 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,560 one and two picks on a running back, a guard and a backup 236 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:46,000 quarterback. So like, I don't think their 237 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,880 defense is going to be meaningfully improved. 238 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,120 They have the same coordinator too. 239 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,160 So it's probably still going to be a bottom 5 to 10 defense even 240 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,080 if you get a little bit of averaging out from what it was 241 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,920 last. Year Percent percent three, 450 242 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,920 yards. In that one game, they lost by 243 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,320 three scores. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's Mike 244 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,080 Lafleur, a head coach and you got Hackett right at OC. 245 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:07,760 So Lafleur is going to be calling the plays. 246 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,200 So he's he's going to want to be more of like a pass balanced run 247 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:12,880 balance offense. He's just going to get forced 248 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,160 out of it. I think the best thing you can 249 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,480 say about this is what other team in the NFL could actually 250 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,960 give Jacoby Brissett leverage? Like is there another team where 251 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,360 he would have this? Yeah. 252 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,280 Such a good point. Yeah. 253 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:28,440 It is funny though, because like as much as we're kind of we kind 254 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,520 of shifted into the bearish realm, but like he's clearly the 255 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,920 one O 1. I don't think I'm like, I'm not, 256 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,160 I'm taking him first every time and I like I like him in best 257 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,240 ball. Like like you guys were saying, 258 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,320 like he he probably pays off even with the Genti level 259 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,960 performance in the I think he's more early third round now. 260 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:53,480 So it is like this stuff I think is being priced in in best ball. 261 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,000 And then it's sort of like the class is too weak to really have 262 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,960 like anyone flip him for the one O 1 and dynasty. 263 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,800 Yeah, yeah. All right, I will. 264 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,840 I have the second pick. This is where it at least starts 265 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,960 to get a little bit interesting. And it's funny because I've even 266 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,640 just today for tomorrow's Fantasy Life newsletter, I'm 267 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,080 writing about Jordan Tyson versus Carnell tape more through 268 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,560 the lens of of redraft, but I do think I I'm a bit of a Tyson bro 269 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:23,560 now. That's gonna be my pick there. 270 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,720 I think just like the the systemic risk of Cam Ward being 271 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,920 awful in that offense sucking is kind of concerning. 272 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:33,040 I I do want to get Dwayne's thoughts. 273 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:38,160 I know he has Tate projected for a 20% target share this year. 274 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,080 But I do think there's also risk that Wandel Robinson's still 275 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,640 gonna earn targets. Calvin Ridley's gonna earn 276 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,720 targets. What if the thesis that he has 277 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,200 this clear, clear runway to an alpha target share isn't as 278 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,440 clean? I just look at the Saints 279 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,800 offensive environment, get a little more excited about what 280 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,880 Tyson could do. And I've never been too scared 281 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,600 off by, oh, there's Crystal Lobe there, number one, he's the 282 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,400 number 2, yadda, yadda. I just think that offensive 283 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,240 environment, they had fourth highest neutral pass rate last 284 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,920 year. I think I just want in on Tyson 285 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,600 here but curious what you guys think. 286 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,000 Yeah, like I'll just say real quick, like as far as like this 287 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,360 is the pick I would have made. I would have taken Jordan Tyson 288 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:16,840 as well. And if I didn't, I probably 289 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,440 would have gone quarterback. But like with Tate, like you 290 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,240 said, like he played in a much better receiver room at Ohio 291 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,680 State than he'll probably ever play with in the NFL. 292 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,480 So we don't really know, like his untapped, like, target 293 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,360 ceiling. But yeah, I've got him at 20%. 294 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,760 But with the Saints, it's just like, I like Kellenmore. 295 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,040 I like the pace that he wants to run his offense. 296 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,160 Now, they did that Oscar Delp. You know, they've already got 297 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,280 Juwan Johnson. I think they brought in another 298 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,800 tight end as well, no offense. So I don't know, maybe they want 299 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,680 to run more of this 13 and 12 stuff, but at the same time, 300 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,840 like I just see the Saints as a very highly consolidated attack. 301 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,800 I think it's Crystalave and it's Jordan Tyson. 302 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,400 And then we just hope that Tyler Shuck is like just, and I took 303 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:57,880 Tyler Shuck down on the projections. 304 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,000 I think he averaged 260 yards per game last year. 305 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,560 I've got him at 2:30. So slightly over the league 306 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,960 average last year of 225. So I'm already being sober 307 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,000 minded about Tyler Shuck and Jordan Tyson, though. 308 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,920 I just even though he's got Crystalave there, I just think 309 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,600 they're it like, I mean, Devon Valet, Juan Johnson, you know, I 310 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,560 mean, I just I like the Tyson pick. 311 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,160 And Kellen Moore's offense has kind of been that right? 312 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,440 Like even with the Eagles where they didn't run a lot of two 313 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,920 tight end sets, the wide receiver 3 was just nothing. 314 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:28,960 Like if you're trying to replicate what they did when 315 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,720 they won the Super Bowl, you go out and you have two high end 316 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,440 wide receivers, you bring in a running back like they did and 317 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,080 you run through your top few guys and hope nobody gets hurt, 318 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,520 which is exactly what the Eagles did. 319 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,320 So that's part of why I have Tyson there as well. 320 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,840 I mean, then the draft capital is not materially different from 321 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,760 4:00 to 9:00, right? It's decent if you use draft 322 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,280 capital value. I know JJ used Chase Stewart's 323 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,320 stuff as well. Like it's, it's, it's pretty 324 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,680 significant actually. Yeah, I mean real life, but for 325 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,880 Dyna. Yeah, I mean, like I, I, I'll 326 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,760 say this like Tyson, despite having the difference in draft 327 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,320 capital and you know, I, I have my own formula that I use for 328 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,160 the model itself, for the ZAP model. 329 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,720 But despite the difference, the ZAP model likes Jordan Tyson as 330 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:12,880 the wide receiver one in this class. 331 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,960 It's, it's actually by like it's not like a massive margin, but 332 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,720 it's a decent margin. Like he he has to me the best 333 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,600 age adjusted production of any wide receiver in this class, 334 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,360 99th percentile breakout score, which is my adjusted receiving 335 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,840 yards per team pass attempt number to adjust for age and and 336 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,760 schedule strength. And then you just look at his 337 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,440 like journey throughout his collegiate career. 338 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,800 Like he goes to Colorado as a freshman, 9 games played, leads 339 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,600 that team in receiving, hurts his knee doesn't play that next 340 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:40,640 year. Then the following year, 341 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,320 probably the best individual season of any wide receiver in 342 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,360 this class, that third season of his and then last year was fine 343 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,320 until that hamstring started to to act up. 344 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,720 So to me, like if you if you sort of combine what the data 345 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,840 says and then with like some of the stuff that Harmon does with 346 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,760 the reception perception, like Tyson is the intermediate, like 347 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,000 zone beater and Alave is the man beater. 348 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,560 And that combination could seriously be lethal. 349 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,760 And then on top of that, you know, you have the Kellen Moore 350 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,280 factor of every basically every offense that he's coached 351 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,599 outside of that that year in Philly has ranked top five in in 352 00:17:13,079 --> 00:17:16,599 plays per second. And so seconds per seconds per 353 00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:20,079 play, seconds per play, right? It would be that, that, that 354 00:17:20,079 --> 00:17:21,960 order seconds per play. Yeah, Yeah. 355 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,480 But so he's he's running at a fast pace. 356 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,560 There should be a lot of volume. You know, in general, even if 357 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,040 they want to be relatively like balanced, like there still 358 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,360 should be a lot of volume for the for the passing attack and 359 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:35,600 it's consolidated. So like all of that combined. 360 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,880 I like the landing spot. I think Jordan Tyson is I, I, I 361 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,480 see him as like just as good as like a Garrett Wilson type 362 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,960 prospect, like from within the ZAP model and stuff. 363 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,000 I don't think this is like there's been a lot of talk 364 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,400 about, Oh, there's only wide receiver twos in this class and 365 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,520 stuff. Like I think Jordan Tyson's 366 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,040 really, really good. And I think the draft capital 367 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,640 just sort of solidified that stance after we, you know, him, 368 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,560 him going top ten in the draft. Yeah, and the rookie supermodel. 369 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,720 So like his comps, 88% of them became wide receiver threes 370 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:07,400 within their first three years, 75% became top 24 and one out of 371 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,400 three became top 12, which the model does a lot of the same 372 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:11,760 things like what J JS talking about. 373 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,880 Our models are slightly different, but yeah, I'm, I 374 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,960 think there's a really good range of outcomes on Tyson. 375 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,320 Strongly agree with JJ and Dwayne on Tyson. 376 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,400 He was he would be my pick at one O 2 as well. 377 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,400 I'm just curious for you guys like because his ADP is the one 378 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,720 O 4 if say like you guys probably have lives so you're 379 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,080 you're probably in fewer dynasty leagues. 380 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,440 But let's just like imagine you were a hypothetical person who 381 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:37,920 was in like 60 dynasty leagues. Like how, how would you allocate 382 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,000 your exposures between because I have Tyson higher, but I'm not 383 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,880 like so confident about it that I'm like, I want 13 Jordan Tyson 384 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,960 shares and 0 Carnell take shares. 385 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,880 Like what would be the like, what? 386 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,200 How would you allocate that in a situation where you're a little 387 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,400 bit ahead of the market on a guy who you know by ADP is more 388 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,800 actually likely to fall to you to three or four if you wait for 389 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,680 him sometimes? I I would personally go like 390 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,520 6040. I think Jji, don't know, you 391 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,520 might be more aggressive. The rookie supermodel actually 392 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,320 graded Carnell Tate as the wide receiver one, but I put Tyson as 393 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,400 the top guy in my personal rookie ranks. 394 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,880 So I think they have a very similar range of outcomes. 395 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,680 But I'm with you, Jacob. Like it's not like where I'm at 396 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,680 a point where I'm like going to make a massive stand. 397 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,680 Like I would definitely lean to Tyson, but probably more like 398 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,960 6040. I'd say I'd say probably 7030 399 00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:29,040 ish something, something along those lines. 400 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,480 And I'm seeing people like I've seen the argument that like I'm 401 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,320 even seeing in chat, like people saying that Tyson with no 402 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,720 quarterback is risky, like Tyler Shuck was better than Cam Ward 403 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,960 last year. Like you, it was by by a. 404 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,040 Lot. Yeah. 405 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,880 And, and, and I trust like the nice part about about Tyson is 406 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,720 that we have a coach that we would assume is gonna be there 407 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,280 at least the next couple of years, right, where there's a 408 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,920 lot more ambiguity with what's going on in Tennessee right now 409 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,760 than than what we see with Tyson. 410 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,280 I actually think there's a more stable situation with Jordan 411 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,120 Tyson than there is Carnell Tate. 412 00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:01,120 So that just that just adds to the lighting spot factor. 413 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:03,720 Yeah, like and we think. Definitely on that point, like, 414 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,040 yeah, Kellen Moore is a is a huge plus. 415 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,880 Like he's, he's a high paced guy. 416 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,800 His pass rate can fluctuate, but you're always getting a, a boost 417 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,920 to total pass volume just from the raw plays perspective. 418 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,840 I think he designs his offense really well. 419 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,360 He interchanges guys across formations into favorable 420 00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:21,800 alignments really effectively. And yeah, my, my answer to that, 421 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,600 I do target exposures in my rankings. 422 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,400 So I have I have a 2X target exposure on Tice that I have .75 423 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,640 on Tate and and .25 on Mendoza. All right, Pat, this is a good 424 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,360 segue to you because as Chris was saying, are you the only 425 00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:36,880 Tate over Tyson guy? You are on the clock. 426 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,520 So if that's the direction you're going, you can make the 427 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,680 the case he should be too. Yeah, I was actually happy not 428 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,160 to get to because I would have taken Tate, which is what I've 429 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,440 done, I think. And every time that we've done 430 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,000 one of these shows I've had, I've had the number two pick, 431 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,200 but happy to get a little more value because I think, you know, 432 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,120 Tyson's a I'm kind of the other way where I like Tate over 433 00:20:57,120 --> 00:21:01,280 Tyson, but I don't want to just only have Tate. 434 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,840 I think Tyson is a a strong pick as well. 435 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,240 But yeah, I mean, I think my thing with Tate is that like 436 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,880 when you look at his kind of the the fundamentals of his profile 437 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,720 coming out of Ohio State off of this really impressive junior 438 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,360 season, both efficient and productive alongside Jeremiah 439 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:20,600 Smith. And then he gets drafted. 440 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,640 So there there's your kind of like, well, that's a pretty high 441 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,760 hit rate right there. And then he gets drafted 4th 442 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:30,000 overall and he's slotted in as the clear #1 outside wide 443 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,680 receiver for this team. With a young quarterback with 444 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,800 with dayball running the offense, there should be plenty 445 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,840 of pass volume. There already was pass volume 446 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,000 there. He he has a chance, I think to 447 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,160 to earn a lot of targets. And you know that he didn't have 448 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,240 like a really awesome targets for out running college. 449 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,000 But you know that I think that's at least from a ceiling 450 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,040 perspective, that could very much be because he was playing 451 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,880 alongside Smith and he's in a much easier situation now in 452 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,960 terms of earning targets. And from the route running 453 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,760 perspective, like Matt Harmon's write up on him and and charting 454 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,720 was very, very bullish, especially because it kind of 455 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,280 matches what he was doing. Like he was an intermediate and 456 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,040 deep target earner in college. And that's what you look at like 457 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,560 where he was earning targets, how what types of routes, who's 458 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,600 earning targets on beating man coverage, playing on the 459 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,200 outside. It all lines up is is a guy 460 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,680 who's like, I think going to be pretty good in the NFL. 461 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,600 You do have like some concerns maybe about what the ultimate 462 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,360 ceiling is with him. Like is he more so he's top out 463 00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:31,120 is kind of like a Pickens the Olave type of guy where he's 464 00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:35,280 like probably best suited as A1A or maybe even A1B. 465 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,080 Yeah, I think that's definitely possible. 466 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:39,880 Maybe even the most likely outcome. 467 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:44,520 But he gets put into a scenario where like, I don't know, well, 468 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,160 Jabe was getting drafted in the late 2nd or the early 3rd of 469 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,800 best ball drafts after his rookie season. 470 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,680 Like I think it's sort of like something you figure out after a 471 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:57,280 couple years if if maybe he's capped, he's he's in position to 472 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,280 really hit the ground running from producing within the 473 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,000 offense. I've got my concerns about Cam 474 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,040 Ward. That would be one reason I think 475 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,720 to go to Tyson because because the Ward floor is is pretty low. 476 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,720 They could need to reset here like after this year. 477 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,640 But yeah, I'm I'm happy to take happy to take Tate here. 478 00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:18,200 I think there's basically a little bit of a tear break after 479 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,160 this. Yeah. 480 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,480 So like in the rookie supermodel, which like it's, 481 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,560 it's obviously calculating a little bit different than what 482 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,400 JJ is doing. But like their production 483 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,640 rating, which normalizes for, you know, which years they did 484 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,440 what, right. The earlier years get more 485 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,440 weight in the model and the actually there's a negative 486 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,280 correlation right, in years four and five with future production 487 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,840 in the NFL. So they hardly get any weight, 488 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,040 but it also adjusts, you know, for teammates. 489 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,560 JJI believe yours does as well. It accounts for the strength of 490 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:43,560 schedule. But when you put it all 491 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,560 together, I mean, Jordan Tyson has the highest production 492 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,920 rating in the class of all the round one guys at 86. 493 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,360 But but Carnell Tate, after adjusting for all those things, 494 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,520 it's an 84 like it's just two spots lower. 495 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,240 So I I think these guys are in the in the same tier. 496 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,720 Like I said, I would go 6040 Tyson, but I I'm I'm with you, 497 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,640 Pat. Like I, I think Carnell Tate's a 498 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,680 really good prospect as well. And I will say like the rookie 499 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,360 supermodel basically says these guys should probably like have 500 00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:11,360 been like picked 10 to 15 in a normal NFL draft. 501 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:13,000 We didn't have a lot of blue chip players that. 502 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,040 Probably would have been in a normal NFL draft. 503 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,040 Yeah, right. And and who knows, maybe this is 504 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,800 going to be a trend going forward as players get paid to 505 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,120 stay and all this other stuff. We'll see what happens with all 506 00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:25,560 of that. But so like I've been thinking 507 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,600 about, I'm interested in hearing JJ's thought not to get too 508 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,280 nerdy, but I've been thinking about like a good way to like 509 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,760 normalize draft classes. But to do it, you would need to 510 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,200 be able to grade all the other positions and how good they 511 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,960 were. And then like each draft class, 512 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,840 you know, you would have your model with an account based off 513 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,560 of that. Like this was a real thought of 514 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,520 as a really strong draft class and a wide receiver went forth, 515 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,280 right. That would be worth more than 516 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,760 carnal Tate going forth like in this draft class. 517 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,280 So it the the model doesn't know that. 518 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,600 And so that's why whenever you just look at the raw model 519 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,960 scores like and I look at it, it kind of bothers me. 520 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,120 I'm like, man, Carnal Tate, like shouldn't be next to some of 521 00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:02,480 these other names, you know, in the model, but I can't really do 522 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,440 anything about it right now. And the the same thing for 523 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,840 Jordan Tyson. I really like them. 524 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,440 But in in normal drafts, they would have probably gone like 10 525 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,040 pick 10 to 15. That's where the supermodel 526 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,520 would have basically, they would have evened out and like there 527 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,720 wouldn't have been a big delta between their draft pick and 528 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,640 their. I will say it'd be fair to Tate 529 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,720 though, like when in the early, because at one point this was 530 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,760 seen as like people were excited about this quarterback class for 531 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,080 a minute and then none of the quarterbacks came out and stuff. 532 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,080 So but like early on, you know, in the fall, Tate was talked 533 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,720 about as a top ten NFL draft pick. 534 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,920 Like he was there was never a point where like he was in the 535 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,680 20s and then he kind of jumped up to 4 because you know, 536 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,040 there's just no one else. Like he was always considered 537 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,840 one of the top prospects in this class. 538 00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:48,440 I do think in like another class, like in the in the 539 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,240 neighbors Harrison class, like it's possible he goes after 540 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,680 Rome. You know, he he might be the 541 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,240 wide receiver 4IN that class, but it's I don't think he's I 542 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,040 don't know it. It's like semi fraudulent in 543 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,120 terms of the the number four overall. 544 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:04,280 I don't, I don't think he's like. 545 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,000 I think the bigger issue. Behind Brian Thomas in that 546 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,440 class or something. Like that, I think the bigger 547 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,800 issue isn't so much the other receivers in the class, it's 548 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,840 just the other positions without the quarterbacks and without 549 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,120 like, you know, the offensive lineman, you know, we didn't 550 00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:18,200 have one to go to like pick 9 or whatever. 551 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,520 So it was just kind of a weird class overall. 552 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,800 It was a weird. Class where everyone agreed the 553 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,920 best players were like a running back, a linebacker. 554 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,600 Right. Like, it's exactly, yeah, yeah, 555 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,400 the NFL just threw their hands up and they're like, we know 556 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,600 that we don't really want to pay these kind of players, but we're 557 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,320 going to lock them into big contracts. 558 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,840 The thing with the modeling though, with like, you know, 559 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,880 because I get the question all the time of like, well, what if 560 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,040 this draft class is different? So draft capital doesn't mean 561 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,240 the same thing that it did, you know, in another class or 562 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,960 whatever. I would argue though, that the 563 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,240 application of what we're using these for generally is just for 564 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,160 comparing within the same class, right? 565 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,080 So like like, yes, it's nice that it would be nice to have a 566 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,600 more apples to apples comparison. 567 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,240 But in the end, like when we're comparing these players, we're 568 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,600 comparing them against other player. 569 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,480 Like if you were to compare across classes, we know than NFL 570 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,240 data is going to be more predictive anyway. 571 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,120 And so we might as well lean on that a little bit more similar 572 00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:10,080 to like the like, maybe you could argue with like the Gente 573 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,640 versus Jeremiah Love thing, right? 574 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,160 Like, like those fringe cases are still going to happen where 575 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,600 it's like we didn't learn quite enough about Gente last year 576 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,880 necessarily to know for sure. But realistically, like, you 577 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,240 know, how frequently are you making the the the argument of 578 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,120 one player to the next in terms of like their prospects score? 579 00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:30,200 You know that that's kind of maybe it's a cop out for me to 580 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,680 be lazy and not really figure throughout the normal I think of 581 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,720 the pics, but. To use a phrase from this show, 582 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,440 that's fair, I mean. Sorry, that's actually only on 583 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,240 EDP chasing. We're on ship. 584 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,200 Chasing, I knew I was sorry off brand, my bad, Jacob. 585 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,040 But I think where it does matter is like when you're comparing 586 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,320 the historical classes and a lot of people like use the models to 587 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,880 decide like how they want to think about it. 588 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,680 It's still a factor in how they think about a multi year outlook 589 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,720 on the player. So it's more just from that. 590 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,520 But I do agree like for just doing the class stuff like for 591 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,360 what we're doing today, it's not as big of a deal. 592 00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:09,000 It's more it also like impacts the way the comps work in the 593 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,880 model historically. And so when you're trying to 594 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,080 find the right comps. I will say I took AI took a very 595 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,200 non scientific approach to looking at it and I just went 596 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,960 back through the last few years since 2020 and pulled up when 597 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,920 the first like pure blocking tight end was taken right. 598 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,240 The most obvious definite blocking guys like the Darnell 599 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:33,360 Washington's tip Ryman's every class go back through 30 pass 600 00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:36,360 catcher, right 30 wide receivers, running back, tight 601 00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:42,640 end, quarterback 2436312339 Like it's always 30 or so guys get 602 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,440 taken before A-Team finally says like, OK, let's just take a 603 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,800 blocking tight ends. This year it was 14. 604 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,640 But that's also because the NF LS latching. 605 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,920 Yeah, the NF LS into. That now? 606 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,760 Yeah, and, and they're latching onto it in a like a dumb way 607 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,440 too. Yeah, they're overdoing it. 608 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,480 Guess what? You also have to have talented 609 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,000 players and like be able to be in good. 610 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,560 Game Nate Nate Forkitcher is not going to adjust the model. 611 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,040 That's right. Insane pick. 612 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,840 And the The thing is, I, I had somebody argue, they were like, 613 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,040 oh, Nate. Harling Pine. 614 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,960 Well, they say he's not just a blocking cut in after him. 615 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,760 It went a quarterback. Max for those people. 616 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,880 And stay. Around Yeah sorry like sorry bro 617 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,560 like he has like 20 career catches and went to 478 like. 618 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,440 Sorry I. Don't know what. 619 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,280 I don't know what we're doing here. 620 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,400 All those guys never end your blocking tight end. 621 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,720 I do want to address some of the chat stuff. 622 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,280 Sorry, just really quick. The chat's doing a whole shock 623 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,440 Ward debate in the comments. And my angle on that would be 624 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,720 like, if you want to make the case that you think Cam Ward 625 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,280 will be better than Tyler's track, I think that's 626 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,840 reasonable. I'm, I'm probably the Cam Ward 627 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,880 optimist in the ship chasing universe. 628 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,080 Honestly, I think the one we're discussing, they're wide 629 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,600 receivers. The floor is just way more 630 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,760 relevant element in the ceiling. Like I don't really care that 631 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,280 much. I don't care as much if a 632 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,280 fantasy wide receiver has a good quarterback or an elite 633 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,920 quarterback. Like I'm if you told me my my 634 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,320 quarterback is Jared Goff, you know, for the foreseeable future 635 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,720 for my fantasy wide receiver. Like I'm pumped with that 636 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,000 outcome. It's really you just don't want 637 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,920 like a disaster artistic quarterback who's not 638 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,760 consistently converting drop backs into catchable targets 639 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,920 because there's so many sacks, there's scrambles, there's 640 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,440 throwaways. So to me, it's like if the Chuck 641 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,800 has already has a demonstrated floor of being a reasonable 642 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,320 passer for wide receiver fantasy production and Ward has not. 643 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:27,200 So I I view that specific angle of the floor being a point in 644 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,240 Tyson's Corner, even though it wouldn't necessarily surprise me 645 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,920 if Ward winds up being a better player. 646 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,920 Yeah, I'm happy to make the like to me is someone who doesn't 647 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,600 really believe in Ward. I'm kind of happy to be able to 648 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,480 bet on Ward through Tate and then, you know, I'll take some 649 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,400 Ward words actually like reasonable enough and best ball. 650 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,120 I don't, I don't think it's bad, but like I'm like, great, I I 651 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,000 believe in Tate. So if Ward's good, that'll help 652 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,000 Tate and I'll benefit that way. And it's more, it's more of the 653 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,960 ceiling side of it. But yeah, I think from a floor 654 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,040 perspective, it's just kind of like indisputable, Like he had a 655 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,320 really, really bad rookie season from a from an EPA perspective, 656 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,240 success rate, basically anything you look at and you can say 657 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,760 like, look, he was on the Titans, They fired their head 658 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,080 coach. They didn't have any weapons. 659 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,240 Like that's not who he is. OK, yeah, that might not be who 660 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,120 he is, but like it also could be who he is because that is what 661 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,760 he did last year in his rookie season. 662 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,880 That's like got to be in in the range, you know, on the low end 663 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,240 of the range maybe. But yeah, the floor here is is 664 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,560 is low. Like it has to be low given what 665 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,160 he did last. Year my stance is that like it's 666 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,400 not definitive that we can say that Cam Ward is any better than 667 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,800 Tyler Shuck period. Like we we, we have no idea that 668 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:36,920 that would be the case. Nor nor. 669 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,400 I mean, I would still probably say Shuck is going to be the 670 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,440 better pro at this point just based on what they did last 671 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,360 year. All right, JJ, you are on the 672 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:49,960 clock at 14. We had love Tyson Tate to start 673 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,280 things off. Where do you want to go here in 674 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,200 the Super Flex Titan Premium draft? 675 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,960 Well, I I hear he's on top of everyone's board, so I'm gonna 676 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,840 go Design Stribling. Oh, my God. 677 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,000 I'll go. I'll go, I'll go. 678 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,640 Mendoza here. I'm not verbal is binding. 679 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,080 Give it, give it to him. I. 680 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,520 Mean come on, I wanna play poker, not you. 681 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,840 I'll go Mendoza. I don't think the ceiling is 682 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,200 like crazy. I don't think the Russian 683 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,760 production's gonna be gonna be crazy, but obviously he goes to 684 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,720 an offense. Kling Kubiak we should probably 685 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,040 feel relatively good about even though they're gonna lean more 686 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,840 run heavy. You know, I wish they did more 687 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,040 wide receiver in the draft slash in general. 688 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,640 And they weren't. The weird thing is the one wide 689 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,880 receiver they drafted is just like a duplicate of like what 690 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,120 they already have there, like in Trey Tucker and stuff. 691 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,920 Like it's just it's just a really uninspiring wide receiver 692 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,160 room. But obviously Genti and Brock 693 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,040 Bowers and Bowers, you know, could, could go absolutely nuts. 694 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,800 You know, this year, you know, with all the changes and such, 695 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,400 you might see Kirk Cousins get more run than we would want 696 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,080 early on. But I think at the very least 697 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,400 you're going to get stability within the dynasty market year 698 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,040 over year. That's what we get with 699 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,240 quarterbacks and Superflex. You're you're going to have a 700 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,200 year to be able to, to decide if you want to sell the asset or 701 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,640 not. So that's in a worst case 702 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,120 scenario. So I'll go Mendoza next. 703 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,360 Is I guess for the panel, is there anyone who would have 704 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:17,880 taken Mendoza earlier or later than this or is this just the 705 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,680 the sweet spot? I think he's in the tier with 706 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,720 Tyson and Tate. You have Jeremiah Love by 707 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,240 himself, but I think in a superflex I have Mendoza in the 708 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,040 same tier with these guys. I I technically have them ahead 709 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,640 of Tate but they're all in the same tier still. 710 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,040 Yeah. And you have a four tier behind 711 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,320 the receivers. Yeah, I have him a tear behind. 712 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,800 He wouldn't have been my next pick and I actually have him a 713 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,640 tear down. Well, cool, Pat, that guy. 714 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,600 All. Right, Andrew, you're the high 715 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,240 man. I'll be the high man on this 716 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,360 one. I've taken him at 2:00, 717 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,200 especially in superflex. I hate drafting for me, but 718 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,160 sometimes when it's impossible to get quarterbacks, you just 719 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,880 have to make that move. In fact, I traded up to four in 720 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,760 this exact this draft pay. It played out just like this and 721 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,880 I traded up to four to get him because I needed quarterbacks in 722 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,560 that league. And you look at the hit rate 723 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,120 from the one O 1. And I know you can't just say, 724 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,239 OK, this guy was drafted first overall, but he's going to hit 725 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,440 like if you look at everything from like approximate value over 726 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,679 at Pro Football Reference in terms of like pick one, verse 2, 727 00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:21,840 verse 3, verse 4, the hit rate for the guys that do go one 728 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,239 overall is wild. And if you look at all the 729 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,400 quarterbacks across the last like 25 years, over half of the 730 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,520 QB one fantasy seasons have come from guys that were either the 731 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,480 first or second quarterback drafted off the board. 732 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,679 So for me in Superflex, I look at Mendoza, yes, he obviously 733 00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:40,400 doesn't have like the mobile attributes that we like to see. 734 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,159 He is going to have to be a guy that throws for like 4000 yards 735 00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:46,960 and 35 plus touchdowns at some point to really be a difference 736 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,719 maker in single QB leagues. But in a class like this where 737 00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:54,719 you know Ty Simpson was a shock to go in the first round and the 738 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,520 next guys aren't even going till the third round. 739 00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:59,520 And the hit rate gets so bad once you get the second and 740 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,880 third round quarterbacks. Like right now in the league we 741 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,800 only have 3 quarterbacks who were picked in the second round 742 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,440 of the NFL draft that start Jalen Hurts, Geno Smith, and the 743 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,280 chats favorite Tyler Schuck. Those are the only second round 744 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,520 quarterbacks that hit. So if you need a quarterback, 745 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,160 sometimes you just got to bite the bullet and draft Mendoza. 746 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,960 And for me, once love is gone in Superflex, I'm giving our guys a 747 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,000 fancy on the green light and just saying, hey, you know what, 748 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,480 I like Tyson, I like Tate. But if you are in a position 749 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,600 where you need a quarterback to compete, you just got to take 750 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,160 this guy because I really have him way ahead of the other 751 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,160 quarterbacks in class. My my counter to that I think 752 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,320 would be like, couldn't you try to go get a veteran quarterback? 753 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,120 Because I think the thing with Mendoza, like the reason I 754 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,560 wouldn't be like I would. I'm taking the guys who I think 755 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:50,840 have really high end ceiling ahead of Mendoza and I still 756 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,160 think there's a guy left who does. 757 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:57,680 So it's like, can I, can I backfill with cheaper veteran 758 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,360 production where Mendoza, I mean, certainly he could he's 759 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,600 the number one overall pick in the draft. 760 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,520 He could end up having a really high ceiling, but he's in a 761 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,720 system where that could take like a while. 762 00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:10,960 You know, this is going to be a run heavy offense almost 763 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,800 certainly this year and probably like for most of his rookies 764 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,240 rookie year, unless he's like truly awesome, you don't you 765 00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:18,400 don't really have a lot of rushing. 766 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,720 He's big. He could run around the goal 767 00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:21,760 line a little bit. He can like scramble around kind 768 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,280 of like Tyler Shuck does or something. 769 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,200 But it's really going to be driven by his his passing 770 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,440 volume. And if they don't really let him 771 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,680 drop back that much to begin his career. 772 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,520 I don't know. I mean, I'm, I'm just not sure 773 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,120 you're even getting that much production here that, you know, 774 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,560 you couldn't kind of fill in with a, with a veteran. 775 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,440 You, you absolutely can't draft him there if you don't think he 776 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,600 can become an elite passer, as simple as that. 777 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,640 But I, I think he can And I in this scheme, I know it is a lot 778 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,800 of, you know, run heavy and, and zone rushing, but we've seen 779 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,680 this scheme be super efficient for quarterbacks and not just 780 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,120 with Clint Kubiak. I mean, we've seen Kubiak do it 781 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,960 obviously with Arnold, We saw him do it early on with Derek 782 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,120 Carr before he got hurt. We saw Clint Kubiak do it 2023 783 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,200 with Brock Purdy and Brock Purdy had like some of the best yards 784 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,680 per attempt and, and NEA numbers of all time. 785 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,560 We've also seen Bobby Sloat go and take this scheme over to the 786 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,040 Texans where a rookie CJ Stroud looked incredible. 787 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,680 And then all of a sudden they they go and they add Stefan 788 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,600 Diggs and they they get rid of the fullback and they change 789 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,560 their scheme on them. Scott doesn't look as good. 790 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,160 We watched 22 Tuka Viola in this scheme with Mike McDaniel lead 791 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,160 the league in passing yards. So I don't think it's crazy if 792 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,520 things go right and and Kubiak and Rick Dennison can fix this 793 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,320 offensive line pretty quickly for this guy to come out and 794 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,600 have that upside in the near future. 795 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,240 It would have been nice if they actually drafted a a single wide 796 00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:45,640 receiver that mattered. But I think it's entirely 797 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,280 possible that that this guy, if Kubiak is who we think he is, 798 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,520 then then it's a very friendly scheme. 799 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,360 So I, I do think there's upside there. 800 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,360 Again, a huge point. Like if this guy was even in the 801 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,800 not rushing, but mobile tier, I think it would be a no brainer 802 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,120 to put him at 2:00. But the concerns are that he 803 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,240 might just not do that at. All, yeah, I agree with you on 804 00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:11,520 there on that for sure. All right, Andrew, well, you're 805 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,800 not done talking because you are. 806 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,880 Back on the clock at 1:05 here. Love Tyson Tate Mendoza off the 807 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:23,360 board. Yeah, and I know the hot pick 808 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,680 would be Casey Conception, but I do have Makai Lemon ranked 809 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,520 ahead. I just I love this type of 810 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,560 profile for for player in the modern NFL, right. 811 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,640 You go and look what he did and you know everybody because it's 812 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,200 USC. Everybody mentions Ahmad Ross 813 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,920 St. Brown and obviously that is like 814 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,360 picking the Super high end comp. But I love the teams that are 815 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,400 willing to let a guy play slot for two wide receiver sets and 816 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,400 then move out wide to flanker for three wide receiver sets. 817 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,440 It's how we got the Cooper Cup best ever fantasy season. 818 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,960 It's how we got CD lambs 400 PPR season. 819 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,800 It's where the best players come from. 820 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,040 And to Pat's point and the chat was saying, you know, that we're 821 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,520 too low on the on the on the upside for for Carnell Tate. 822 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,720 The concern for Tate is that he might end up in that role that 823 00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:15,280 caps your upside like like George Pickens and T Higgins. 824 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,480 T Higgins is awesome, but he has to play the outside role where 825 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,600 Jamar Chase gets to play that slot flanker role. 826 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:24,360 I think Makai Lemon is exactly built for the modern NFL and for 827 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,360 that particular role. I think Devante Smith is going 828 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,160 to stay on the outside. I do think A.J. 829 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,760 Brown it's going to be traded and I think that that this guy 830 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,000 offers solid floor. I don't think he's just going to 831 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,600 be a full time slot guy. And when he does become a an 832 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,960 every down player, that's when we see these blow up seasons 833 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:46,120 from JSN and and CD lamps. So if he can avoid being a Josh 834 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,440 Downs or Jaden Reed part time guy, I think this guy has an 835 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,120 awesome SEAL. Yeah, this this is the guy that 836 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,680 I was I was saying I would have taken ahead of Mentos. 837 00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,080 I I think Lemon's a really, really good prospect and has the 838 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,400 ability to play both inside and out. 839 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,360 He's really good deep as well as on short targets. 840 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,800 And I think, you know, in addition to being able to play 841 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,160 in a variety of positions, he's that that kind of hints at that 842 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,680 upside in the same way that like JSN, it's like, oh, this guy's 843 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,640 actually really good at all levels That to me, you know, 844 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,840 it's a very, very fantasy friendly type of role when you 845 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,520 see. Back like when Stefan digs, he's 846 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:24,920 like, oh, he's good short, he's good deep. 847 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,960 He can kind of do everything. He can play inside, he can play 848 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,160 outside. It's like a super high ceiling 849 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,320 type of role and type of type of skill set. 850 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,160 And you know, I know the fall in the draft was was tough, but he 851 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,200 ends up in a pretty good situation, I think for for 852 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,240 immediate production. I'm assuming Brown gets traded 853 00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:46,240 as well. Does anyone not go lemon here or 854 00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:49,000 is this consensus? That's who I had. 855 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,680 I'd go Lemon. My, my only, my only concern 856 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,240 with Lemon from a fit perspective is, is obviously the 857 00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:58,400 Jalen Hurts, you know, the, the, the frequency in which he, you 858 00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,520 know, targets the middle of the field. 859 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,120 It's been the lowest in the NFL since he became starter. 860 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,440 And that's where Mikhail Lemon's gonna win. 861 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,160 But the flip side of that is #1 Philadelphia is a smart 862 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,640 organization. And I don't think they take a 863 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,400 quote UN quote slot guy in the first round if they are going to 864 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,480 just leave him in the slot. It's just not the way like, and 865 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,560 if you look at historically the, you know, since over the last 866 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,720 five or six years, the wide receivers that have that have 867 00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:24,480 played mostly slot that went in round one. 868 00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:26,760 You know, you get the JS. Like we had the exact same 869 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,680 conversations with a Mecca Buka last year where it was this idea 870 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,520 that he would only play that role. 871 00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:36,120 And it's just not really what that's just not the way that it 872 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,360 it typically goes down. You know, I, I like, it's easy 873 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,040 to make the JSN comparison. I think JS, I think we'd all 874 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,720 agree JSN was the better prospect, you know, coming out 875 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,880 had a phenomenal production profile and stuff. 876 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,600 And it's funny because you can look at Mikhail Lemon and see 877 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,200 that he was really good on yards per out run on the perimeter. 878 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,040 And we've seen that kind of connection of like high slot 879 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,600 rate and high perimeter yards per out run in the past. 880 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,480 And, and it's, you know, JSN was, was the one O 1 of that, 881 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,880 right? And he was better than Mikhail 882 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,560 Lemon at those things. But then after that you get a 883 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,720 ton of busts for for top 100 picks like Elijah Moore types, 884 00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:14,680 you know, these guys that, that, that play. 885 00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:17,760 But the, the difference is that Lemon is sort of like living in 886 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,880 the middle of. So, so basically what I'm saying 887 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,080 is the the the range of outcomes for Makai Lemon is Elijah Moore 888 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,600 don't. Say don't say Elijah Moore, 889 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,720 dude. No, I mean, I, I remember coming 890 00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:31,600 through this with we, we had Scott on our Scott Barrett on 891 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,600 our dynasty points show right before the draft. 892 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:38,680 And he was going through a pretty similar like comparables 893 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,400 from that respect to what JJ was laying out. 894 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,280 And yeah, he was like, you know, on one hand we have JSN and on 895 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,560 the other hand we have like Elijah Moore and KJ Hamler I 896 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,400 think was in this group and some other like goofballs. 897 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,400 But I, I completely agree with everything JJ said about you're 898 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,160 not taking him, trading up for him, take him 20th overall to 899 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,840 play him as a slot only player. That's just not going to happen. 900 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,880 Like I know it even happened with JSN and CD very early in 901 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,200 their careers, but they joined like oddly stacked wide receiver 902 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,600 depth charts. No one loves Ontavian Wicks more 903 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,000 than me. But like, I don't think that 904 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,600 past maybe Week 2, you know, that Wicks is keeping Lemon off 905 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,240 the field and two wide receiver sets. 906 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,360 Yeah, it's more like I had lemon initially in a tear with Tyson 907 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,160 and Tate pre draft. I moved in behind Mendoza just 908 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,160 based on the combination of you know, he doesn't he falls in the 909 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,040 draft, doesn't have the same capitals the other two. 910 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,880 And I think it's a poor stylistic fit with Hertz and and 911 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,080 it's just also like a past volume concern when you're 912 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,880 dealing with Jalen Hurts. But I don't think it's going to 913 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,600 be a snaps issue. I think he's going to get a lot 914 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,560 of usage. Yeah, I mean, I do think he's, 915 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,080 he's like a worse prospect and a worse bet than JSN and JS NS 916 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,320 kind of hit his ceiling. But I, I mention him more 917 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,840 because I think he gets like it's like, oh, he's the new 918 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,560 almond raw. And like, he certainly could be 919 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,080 the new almond raw because he he really was quite productive on 920 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,840 short targets and delivered yak on short targets. 921 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,640 But he has this other element to his profile where he was really 922 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,720 good deep and he was he was good yak. 923 00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:08,360 He had 6 yards of yak per game on deep targets. 924 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:13,560 Like Chris Brazil was second in in in this draft class in deep 925 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,920 yards last year in 12 games, he had 509 yards on 20 plus 926 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,040 targets. Mackay Lemon was first also 927 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,760 played twelve games, 522 yards on deep targets. 928 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,760 Like there's this component to his game that I don't think gets 929 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,640 enough love where he can produce at multiple levels of the field. 930 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,440 Maybe that maybe he's Elijah Moore ultimately, but I do think 931 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,920 that creates more upside to the profile then he kind of gets 932 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,840 credit for. Yeah, I agree. 933 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,960 Like in whenever me and Friedman, we're going through 934 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,520 the ranks after the draft, like he had more concerns about Lemon 935 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,600 being stuck as a slot player. I was really more like where 936 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,440 Jacobs at. I'm like, you're not taking him 937 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,240 at 20 to do that with him. And then to your point, Pat, 938 00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:54,280 like 23% of his targets came 20 plus yards downfield. 939 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,080 Like that's more than Jordan Tyson. 940 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,240 That's more than Carnell Tate. Like, I mean, he did access like 941 00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:01,080 all levels of the field. So I'm with you. 942 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,680 I had him next on the board. It's a good pick. 943 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,840 All right, Dwayne, you now have the next two picks in the middle 944 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,160 of round one here. What would you like to do with 945 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,960 this first one? Yeah, I'm going to go with 946 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,480 Concepcion. The other thing, Well, no, I'll 947 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,640 just, I'm just not going back. We'll just, I'm going with 948 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,600 Concepcion here. And I think your bet here with 949 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,360 Concepcion is like they he grades out really similarly to 950 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,080 Makai Lemon and the rookie supermodel. 951 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,800 So 83.3 for Lemon, 82.1 for Concepcion. 952 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,480 So I have them in A tier together, but you are making a 953 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,320 bet on really his year at Texas A&M where he showed that he 954 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,320 could play outside, that he could get down the field 955 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,000 vertical. Before that, he had really been 956 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,600 more of a gadget player, which is why he transferred. 957 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,480 That's why he left and went to Texas A&M ultimately ended up 958 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,880 being a really good move on his part. 959 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,880 So I do think he's a guy that can threaten all areas of the 960 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,760 field. I obviously the negatives are 961 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,800 like I hate the quarterback situation. 962 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,200 You have Harold Fannon junior already on the offense. 963 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,000 You know, I'm not huge on Denzel Boston, but they took a receiver 964 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,120 in round two as well. So it's a crowded room where we 965 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,680 don't know what's going to happen at quarterback. 966 00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:11,120 And unlike The Jets, it's not like they have 3 picks in the 967 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,360 first round next year. The Jets can basically like do 968 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,040 whatever they want, like to move up and get the quarterback they 969 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,240 want if they're available, like in the 2027 class. 970 00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:20,760 Like the Browns aren't in that boat. 971 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,040 Like if they somehow over perform, they have a good 972 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,280 defense, like and they win six or seven games and they're not 973 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,200 in the top. Like the the big scare for 974 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,200 conception is you get you get caught like in this perpetual 975 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,560 quarterback hell. And like the Eagles are just a 976 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,560 good organization that will eventually they're always going 977 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,560 to they get things right way more often than not. 978 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:40,760 The Browns are the opposite of that. 979 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,200 Like they just they get so many things wrong. 980 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,400 So I'm going with him though, because like still like it's 981 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,920 it's dynasty and like I'm just betting on the talent and I 982 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,960 think he's in a similar tier to Makai Lemon from that aspect. 983 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,240 So, but very interested like in in in you guys and your 984 00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:57,720 thoughts, you know, on Concepcion. 985 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,360 Yeah, it's funny that you brought up their scores being so 986 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,560 close. The same thing happened to the 987 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,120 ZAP model. Like they were, they were like 2 988 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,560 points off of one another within that. 989 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,440 And the reason for that is Concepcion, you know, Makai 990 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,040 Lemon had had like a better breakout score and such. 991 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,800 Concepcion wasn't bad, it's just that he never had that peak, you 992 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,160 know, throughout his. But he did it earlier. 993 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,240 He had a better first season. Right, right. 994 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:19,520 Yeah, right. He was able to do it 995 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,960 immediately, but then it wasn't like, unbelievable. 996 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,440 Went down and then back to basically even with where he was 997 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,640 in year 1. The thing that the model likes 998 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,080 about him though, is that it does give like a bonus, if you 999 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,200 will, if you want to think of it that way for for versatility and 1000 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,600 like rushing production and such. 1001 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,480 And so you get that with conception. 1002 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,440 And the other thing that really intrigues me is Todd Monken, 1003 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,680 because I think that you can actually make a kind of high 1004 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,360 level comp to Zafe Flowers with Concepcion. 1005 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,280 Like a, he's like a bigger version almost. 1006 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,360 And cause very not the most traditional wide receivers 1007 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,520 coming out. Concepcion's a better prospect 1008 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,040 in my opinion cuz he's an early declare. 1009 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,680 He had better production, all that kind of stuff. 1010 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,760 I thought Flowers had some more red flags analytically, but 1011 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,600 there is like a lot of similarities between what they 1012 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,480 do and how they'll win. And we saw him get the most out 1013 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,080 of Zay Flowers in my opinion at least. 1014 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,680 Like, he got a lot out of Zay Flowers in Baltimore, and I 1015 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,760 think that's another. Good for a low pass volume. 1016 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,400 Yeah, I got the most out of him. Yeah, I mean like the the, I 1017 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,200 mean the, the efficiency was out of control, you know, for for 1018 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,360 flowers and so. He could have maybe once played 1019 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,200 him inside the 20 yard line that would. 1020 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,920 Have been fun, yeah. Yeah, and, and, and maybe maybe 1021 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,600 their their Denzel Boston pick was the. 1022 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,440 Yeah. No, we're not going to use 1023 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,240 Concepcion down there. Yeah, but like I, I do like. 1024 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,440 Who's your scary? Comp for Concepcion JJI do have 1025 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,360 Jalen Rager in the comp group and that that yeah like at the 1026 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,800 the very low end like that's. Like he's a way better 1027 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,440 separator. He got really good. 1028 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,880 He got good. That's his top. 1029 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,600 I don't know what the other ones are, but his top three in the 1030 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,960 ZAP model like that was published were Christian Kirk 1031 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,960 and Mecca Buca and Randall Cobb. Like very, just solid, you know, 1032 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,800 just just good. Players. 1033 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,240 I mean, if you want to say Christian Kirk is a down comp, I 1034 00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:01,120 I think that would still be a decent enough outcome. 1035 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,400 But yeah, I mean, like, like you look at the situation. 1036 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,160 Jerry Judy has an out in his contract. 1037 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,200 Cedric Tillman, they're already trying to trade apparently, but 1038 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,640 he has a he's a free agent next year. 1039 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,960 And I too, I think part of it is like, if you're relatively 1040 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,200 bullish on Concepcion, you probably aren't like in love 1041 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,960 with Denzel Boston. And I'm not in love with Denzel 1042 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,320 Boston as a prospect. Overrated for me. 1043 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,280 Dwayne, what do you want to do with your second pick here? 1044 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,160 I don't know. Stribly pull on the board bro. 1045 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,760 Yeah. So I mean, we are playing tight 1046 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:39,560 end premium, so my God. Or are you gonna you gonna deny 1047 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,000 Andrew the champion? Tight end bro, come on. 1048 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,040 No. No, no, look. 1049 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,480 I mean look, it's tight end premium. 1050 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,320 There is. I do have a tear break after 1051 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,240 Concepcion, but I am gonna go with Kenyan Sadiq. 1052 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,960 I definitely have concerns like you're just, you're betting on 1053 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,320 athleticism, like his production rating. 1054 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,760 Cooper just left the show. He just shot his for our audio 1055 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,280 listeners. Oh, he's back. 1056 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:04,720 He. Can he's in a moment we had a 1057 00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:06,120 contract over. Is that what happened? 1058 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,080 He. Can have, you can have stowers, 1059 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:09,680 yeah. So I mean. 1060 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,320 Look, Cooper can have Cooper. He can. 1061 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,000 Bet against it. So with Sadiq, look, it's just 1062 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,640 it's tight end premium. You're betting on traits. 1063 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,320 He's an Uber athlete. Obviously we all saw what he did 1064 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,040 at the combine like absolute freak. 1065 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,240 The big concern, never the focal point of the Oregon offense 1066 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,120 ever. And people be like, ah, well, 1067 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,160 they had Troy Franklin, these people and these people and the 1068 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,960 model accounts for all that. But the model didn't see any of 1069 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,680 those people as being necessarily like great enough 1070 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:37,880 that they should have held you down. 1071 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,320 And the model looks across multiple buckets. 1072 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,880 It looks for how many teammates did you have with the receiving 1073 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,760 yards per team pass attempt over this? 1074 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,800 Or did you have two that were like maybe equally offsetting 1075 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,560 each other that were like, you know, good but not elite? 1076 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,240 Or did you play with like 3 really, you know, good ones? 1077 00:50:53,240 --> 00:50:54,920 Like it looks at all those things. 1078 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,720 And so his 74 production rating is scary. 1079 00:50:57,720 --> 00:51:01,320 Like it's the it's the lowest like ever of a tight end taken 1080 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,160 this high in the history of the model. 1081 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,280 And one of his closest comps is Noah Fan, who was also an 1082 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,960 athletic tight end. Now Noah fan at least had an 1083 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,600 excuse. He played with TJ Hawkinson. 1084 00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:13,120 You know, I mean, Kenyan Sadiq did not play with anyone like 1085 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,480 that. So I think this is a high risk, 1086 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,680 high reward kind of player. But ultimately, like with the 1087 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,760 draft capital, he still comes in at an 84.9 in the rookie 1088 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,000 supermodel, which is like 6 highest and the draft capitals 1089 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,640 the biggest wait in there. So I'm just going to take my 1090 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,080 swing. And again, like I said before, 1091 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,680 The Jets do have three first rounders next year. 1092 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,640 So it's kind of crowded. We know Garrett Wilson, that's 1093 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:39,040 like what, 24 to 26% targets probably automatic like that's 1094 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,280 happening. And then you have Omar Cooper 1095 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,360 junior who you added like in the model, thought he was slightly 1096 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,920 overrated, but like should go probably in this range of where 1097 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,760 he went in the draft. So they really have to address 1098 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,560 quarterback long term. So I just took 2 back-to-back 1099 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,240 picks with massive quarterback questions. 1100 00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:56,960 But I do think The Jets. Yeah, that's so The Jets and the 1101 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,480 Browns drafted all the skill players. 1102 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:00,920 I know, right? And that's what it like screwed 1103 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,280 us all. But like I said, I think The 1104 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,120 Jets have the draft capital next year. 1105 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,880 Like if they think the quarterback's there that they 1106 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,960 want, they're going to have the firepower to like go 1107 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,600 theoretically now the players has to work out, but they can 1108 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,960 solve the situation. Whereas the Browns, they may not 1109 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,320 be in that position. So yeah, I'll go with Sadiq. 1110 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,560 All right, Cooper, I mean, I know you care about these 1111 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,840 quarterbacks. Is it a Ty Simpson tie? 1112 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,200 Because no one will trade you for a quarterback in your 1113 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,400 leagues. No, no, Ty Simpson, let me let 1114 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,040 me just say one thing on Sadiq. If Frank Wright can hold on to 1115 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,640 that job, his scheme historically could be pretty 1116 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,040 good for Siddique. I mean, he's been around. 1117 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,120 You're saying Frank Reichen good scheme doesn't? 1118 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:44,520 Give you a whole brain been. A long time since Eric Ebron was 1119 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,400 cooking, man. Eric Ebron, one example, 79% of 1120 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,360 his routes run from wide receiver spot finished what 1121 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,320 tight end four that year, 13 touchdowns. 1122 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,960 And it's not just him, though. He did it with Antonio Gates, he 1123 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,040 did it with Zach Ertz. That's a great player and 1124 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,640 another good player, of course. But if no offense was, if no 1125 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,880 offense was clean slate put into this draft, we would be drafting 1126 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,520 again. There's only so many of these 1127 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,320 guys that are this fast that have 100th percentile speed. 1128 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,160 If you ran a 451 like Eli Stowers did, that's 98th 1129 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,560 percentile. Like you just got to hold your 1130 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,680 nose and take a shot on these guys and hope they become 1131 00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:23,160 special because there's so few draft classes that give us 1132 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,120 multiple fantasy relevant tight ends. 1133 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,680 It just doesn't happen. There's been one draft class 1134 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,800 ever where we got four guys that all had 1000 PPR points in their 1135 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,920 career and Tyler Higbee has like 900 and that class was Vernon 1136 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,720 Davis, Owen Daniels, Delaney Walker and Mercedes Lewis. 1137 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,240 Like 2020. There's not a startable tight 1138 00:53:43,240 --> 00:53:45,320 end from that class. So if a tight end goes in the 1139 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,200 first round and he runs A4 four, you just pick him. 1140 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,760 That's my take on that, especially in tight end premium. 1141 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:54,040 I also think that's the my my. Fear is that actually overrating 1142 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,520 how impactful we are projecting early tight ends to be because 1143 00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,880 of how amazing the recent tight end classes are? 1144 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,120 Because like up until a couple of years ago, everybody that 1145 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,920 everybody that take on dynasty tight ends was, oh, they, they 1146 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,600 suck early. They don't matter. 1147 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,240 It's like a diva. And then last year, I mean, the 1148 00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:12,880 Cooper just said, you know, 4 tight ends, 1000 people are I 1149 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,560 bet we get that out of last year's class, right? 1150 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,320 Like I I bet Loveland Warren Fannon Gadsden remember else I 1151 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:23,600 bet they get there and they're over the yeah T Ferg sure Max 1152 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,400 Max players jock strap holder. So maybe maybe they get there. 1153 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:33,400 But but but I that's the. Sorry to drop, but when I say 1154 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,040 that that that's the probably the best fantasy tight end class 1155 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,520 of all time, people are like, you're so you're you're that 1156 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,680 high on it. I'm like, no, the bar is so low. 1157 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,080 The bar to be the best tight end class of all time is to have 1158 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,560 three really good guys. Part part of the really quick 1159 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,960 just to wrap it up in Sidi, because I've, I've like like a 1160 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,400 few things about his like production profile that does 1161 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,760 frustrate me is that he's 21. He's barely over 21 years old, 1162 00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,240 right? And so a lot of the adjusting 1163 00:54:59,240 --> 00:55:02,040 does look better in the in models, like with Sidique, given 1164 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,120 his age. And if you look at like his 1165 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,400 career yards per out run, which a lot of people will and you 1166 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,040 know, 1.72, I think it was from according to PFF. 1167 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,640 And you compare that to other tight ends that came out like a 1168 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:15,360 train, McBride, Sam Laporta, they were at a very similar 1169 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,400 large per hour run rate through their first three years in 1170 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,480 college. They just boosted that because 1171 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,840 they played another additional. And, and so, and then the other 1172 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,080 thing in tight end in general, we've had like 6 good tight ends 1173 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:27,800 over the last decade in fantasy football. 1174 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,360 You know, like they're, we don't get many good tight ends in 1175 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,480 general. And so when you comp these guys, 1176 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,000 you're gonna get bad comps. It's just the way that the tight 1177 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,520 end tight end position sucks. Terrible. 1178 00:55:37,720 --> 00:55:40,680 You're getting no offense, and you're not gonna get Brock 1179 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,280 Bowers for all these tight ends. It doesn't mean that they're 1180 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,040 like automatically gonna be terrible. 1181 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,520 It's just that This is why we're not taking Kenyan Siddique 1O2 1182 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,240 in a tight end premium league because the position just 1183 00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:52,960 generally sucks. Yeah. 1184 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,920 And for the record, I want to say I have an F minus grade on 1185 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,080 the scheme for The Jets. It's the lowest. 1186 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:02,760 It's in the, I guess the one can you say the one TH percentile 1187 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,800 like and it's based on things like motion, play, action, you 1188 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,640 know, all these different things that we know actually we've 1189 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:16,080 shown like to add value to offenses and yeah, so it's not 1190 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,600 ideal with Frank. Do you have anything that that 1191 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,840 lowers The Jets based on the coaches won't be there the whole 1192 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,320 year? Yeah, yeah. 1193 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,000 My thesis on them keeping Aaron Glenn was just so they could 1194 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,360 fire him mid season this year. And then then it's just to keep 1195 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,160 the fans like, let's not bring in another guy that everybody 1196 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,280 wants to fire. Let's just let this guy like 1197 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,920 start the season, we'll fire him and then we'll reset next year 1198 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,640 when we get to take our quarterback and then Frank. 1199 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,400 Anyone ever been more of an interim head coach than Frank 1200 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:44,400 Wright? Like that guy was? 1201 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,840 That guy is the most interim head coach by week 12 coded 1202 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,560 coach imaginable. Frank, right? 1203 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,000 Well, their their special teams coordinator is has an incredible 1204 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,400 name. Oh God, it's like Charles Banjo 1205 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,840 or something. Harley Banjo. 1206 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,640 Chris Banjo And now I'm just rooting for I just need head 1207 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,360 Jets head coach Chris Banjo like I need it. 1208 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,280 Wasn't that an Astro second baseman? 1209 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,240 I don't. Know he's the special. 1210 00:57:09,240 --> 00:57:11,880 Team. I don't know what he did before 1211 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,680 this. So it may be. 1212 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:18,120 Right. They bring in Doug Peterson to 1213 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,280 be offensive coordinator and then they bring in Chan game. 1214 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:25,360 I want to be tight end coach and it's just all big slot tight. 1215 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,920 End I. Andrew, Andrew wanted to take 1216 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:32,000 him so badly he had an entire monologue teed up and he had to 1217 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,880 give it as a as a response. You're on the clock, Andrew. 1218 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,120 You got to pick a non. Tight end. 1219 00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,080 I know we all agreed to try and filibuster this draft so we only 1220 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,320 get through one round, but my take? 1221 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:42,600 I'm going to. I'm going to make. 1222 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,280 Sure, that doesn't happen. I'm about to start. 1223 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,040 We're cutting people off here. I take it will be very short 1224 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,920 then on on Jedarian. I'm kidding and I'm taking him. 1225 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:51,840 It is short. It is a short take though. 1226 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:56,080 You I really doesn't go much beyond he he's the he's got 1227 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,000 first round draft capital to a landing spot that should be 1228 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,600 friendly and the next running back that was taken. 1229 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,760 What is a 24 year old guy that wasn't even invited to the 1230 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:09,200 combine right in in Caitlin Black like Jedarian price like a 1231 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,640 certain point in these drafts. You just have to hold your nose, 1232 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:12,920 even if you didn't like the prospect. 1233 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,840 And I thought he was fine and just take the mystery box where 1234 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,360 we can say, oh, we don't really know exactly what he could have 1235 00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,240 been because he was behind one of the best prospects we've seen 1236 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,480 in a long time. So simple as that for me. 1237 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,280 Like and this is where I have them ranked as well. 1238 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,880 Is anyone cuz like just looking at things this looks like a tear 1239 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,200 break to me. Is anyone not taking price here? 1240 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,720 No, I'm definitely I would take price and I've been taking the 1241 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,360 anti price side of most of our basketball debates. 1242 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:38,880 Yeah, I would definitely take. Smashing him here. 1243 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,400 Same. So then JJ, who is the the first 1244 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,200 guy after this price tear break here? 1245 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,520 There's about 45 different players you could probably 1246 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,680 choose from here. I technically I think my 1247 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,200 rankings have like Tyson. Chris Banjo is available. 1248 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,520 But I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna just lean into this 1249 00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,000 head in premium and and go. Eli Stowers next. 1250 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:06,120 OK, let's you know, I, I, I don't, I think that this season, 1251 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,760 well, I should say, I think that consensus is probably going to 1252 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:12,160 be lower than I am on stours this year just because they're 1253 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,600 very low on stours this year. But again, I think the Eagles 1254 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,760 are smart organization. You know, they see like, I'm 1255 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,800 actually surprised if you talk about like from a macro level of 1256 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,480 what, like why the, the heavy personnel stuff works so well. 1257 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,720 I'm actually surprised teams didn't like Stowers a little bit 1258 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,240 more. I know that his blocking is very 1259 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,960 questionable, but to me, part of the reason, not not part, but a 1260 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,760 large part of the reason why the heavy personnel stuff can work 1261 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,360 so effectively is like what we saw in LA last year where they, 1262 00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,760 they go out and, and pre snap, they'll move guys from 13 to 11, 1263 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,360 right? And they're, they're so flexible 1264 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,640 at the line. And that to me favors the 1265 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,840 tweener types more like it favors the that's why I am 1266 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,640 actually relatively bullish on like a Terrence Ferguson type 1267 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:58,760 player, like in that in that environment, because he is that 1268 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,000 more of that tweener type. And Eli Stowers is definitely 1269 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,600 that he could play X hypothetically, you know, for, 1270 01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,600 for any NFL team, but in this case it would be for 1271 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,040 Philadelphia, Dallas Goddard's old slash could be gone next 1272 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,960 year. So he automatically would just 1273 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,320 step in and and be the hypothetical Titan 1. 1274 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,160 I think in most classes I wouldn't be taking him right 1275 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,800 here, but there's a very large teardrop from one player to 1276 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,760 that, from from price to to the what's next. 1277 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,280 And with Ty Simpson, I think you can make that argument. 1278 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,520 I just and I've taken him Simpson. 1279 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,320 The thing with Simpson, though, that scares me is just holding 1280 01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,000 on to a dead asset and and like like the bench management side 1281 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,680 of that and the the annoyance of that. 1282 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,960 Plus you might not even be very good. 1283 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:45,120 So I'm I'm just leaning on stowers here with the the Titan 1284 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,720 premium. Karain, would you, would you 1285 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:49,960 have taken Stowers here? You're on. 1286 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,920 You're on the clock now. I might have, yeah, this is like 1287 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,600 to me, we're like in kind of coin flip territory. 1288 01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:03,400 Following Price and Sadiq. I may have taken Omar Cooper 1289 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,840 over Stowers. I think I have them like super 1290 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,400 close. I literally have them one spot 1291 01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:13,160 apart in my overall rankings. So yeah, I think this is pretty, 1292 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,400 pretty damn close here. And Cooper, I feel like it's the 1293 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,160 last of a tier where you you do get a first round receiver. 1294 01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:24,240 Now see a very good prospect. Not really, you know, but he he 1295 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:28,320 does like he does. He did, he did some yak stuff, 1296 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,440 you know, and he also earned intermediate targets. 1297 01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,800 He didn't like do them together very well. 1298 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,280 The last year was a little bit the the year they kind of got 1299 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,720 him on the radar as a first rounder. 1300 01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,640 It was a little more schemed, which I I do think is 1301 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,320 concerning. And then he ends up in this 1302 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,440 horrible situation. Although I do have some hope at 1303 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:51,240 the end of the season for for the offensive design. 1304 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,960 Chris Banjos had some really interesting quotes for what he 1305 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:56,920 expects to do with the offense late in the year. 1306 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,200 But yeah, I mean, The Jets situation is obviously pretty, 1307 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,800 pretty rough. But I mean, you look at like him 1308 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,240 potentially, you know, in the late kind of first round of a, 1309 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,120 of a rookie draft, he flashes, he does some interesting things 1310 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,680 and then The Jets actually figure out quarterback. 1311 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:15,400 I could see us getting reasonably excited about Omar 1312 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,440 Cooper next year, him being kind of in that like 7 eighth round 1313 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,720 redraft type of range, basketball type of range. 1314 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,760 So I, I think like as good as you're going to do at this point 1315 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:31,080 in the draft. Any other thoughts on this Jets 1316 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,920 Cleveland mess here? I guess as it pertains to Omar 1317 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,680 Cooper. I'm just not very high on Cooper 1318 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,160 as a prospect, but I again, to to the point that we've been 1319 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,320 making, there's just a drop here and you can make case for a lot 1320 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,160 of guys. I have him ranked here, you 1321 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,000 know, so like that makes sense to to make this election. 1322 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,640 But I I actually like in the ZAP mod. 1323 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,560 I just want to throw out there like, does that model likes like 1324 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,720 a Jeremy Bernard almost as much as Omar Cooper, You know, So 1325 01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:00,680 like that's that's my fear is that like from from a like I 1326 01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,920 don't want to use first round capital to his advantage too 1327 01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:07,280 much because realistically, like the actual value of that pick 1328 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,240 isn't as significant as it might seem. 1329 01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,080 They gave up. Do you know what they gave up? 1330 01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,440 The 179th pick. That's all it cost to move back 1331 01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,680 into the 1st. That was crazy on me, but that 1332 01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:17,200 was. The first. 1333 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,960 I, I think part of it is that the 33rd pick in and of itself 1334 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,200 has some like intrinsic value. Now, the Niners use it in an 1335 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,520 interesting way, but like you could, you know, theoretically 1336 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,080 be on the clock for like a whole day. 1337 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,800 Fielding offers to trade back like it's it's kind of nice to 1338 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,200 have that 8 hours or 24 hours on the clock. 1339 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,800 It's 33, you know, or, or you could take this on Stribling, 1340 01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:43,120 but sources have it that that every team was actually offering 1341 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:48,040 22027 firsts for 33 overall to take Stribling, but they decided 1342 01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:49,200 he was well. Apparently they were going to 1343 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:50,360 take him in the first better speed. 1344 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,880 They did trade down. Reportedly, yeah, which is 1345 01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,640 probably why they demanded so little because they were like 1346 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,760 look like we don't wanna go out in our press conference tonight 1347 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,120 and be like we took Desean Stribling in the first round so 1348 01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:04,280 just give us 179 and we're. Everyone, everyone had Stribling 1349 01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,520 as their wide receiver won and their board, and yet they were 1350 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:11,080 still willing to trade back. Like they just knew that Grant 1351 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:15,240 Cone was gonna light them up so hard they they took him 30th 1352 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,200 overall that they they were happily accepting 179. 1353 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:23,240 Cooper is like an Omar that I'm talking about, not Andrew has 1354 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,240 been the guy that I'm stunned of how much I'm taking in this 1355 01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:27,760 year's class. It feels like there's a guy like 1356 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,080 this every year for me where it's like a player that I don't 1357 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:34,200 particularly love in any way, but like no one else does 1358 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:35,960 either. And then he lands kind of like 1359 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:40,760 some crappy spot and it's like he's 9th on my rankings and if I 1360 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,360 can't trade out for a future one, he's kind of who I end up 1361 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,080 taking a lot because he's almost never going before 9:00. 1362 01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,880 And then I also said I'm sitting at 11 or 12 and someone takes a 1363 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,960 towers or someone takes a Simpson and he ends up following 1364 01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,640 to me. So I'm gonna end up with 18% 1365 01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:00,480 dynasty exposure to Cooper, which is 18% more than I I, I I 1366 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,080 need but but hopefully works out. 1367 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:04,640 Jacob, just say. I'll just say. 1368 01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,440 Jacob Jacob just lost a ton of semi finals last year, so he's 1369 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,240 in the one O 9 and and every really it's true, yeah. 1370 01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,320 Yeah. Exactly, I'll just say like the 1371 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:16,080 rookie supermodel likes him more than you know, the ZAP model. 1372 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:20,320 Not saying that's right or wrong but I mean I definitely am in a 1373 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:24,320 tier below Concepcion and Lenin. I had him one spot at me two 1374 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:28,080 hours here in this format but same tier was towers so I mean. 1375 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:29,200 I haven't the same I. Haven't. 1376 01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,600 I haven't 2 tiers I had of towers, but I've had the towers 1377 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,080 debate on this airwaves for the last two weeks non-stop so I 1378 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:37,560 don't. Even percentage Jacob doesn't. 1379 01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,040 Call him a tweener, he's got another. 1380 01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,640 Concept I. Do have another designation for 1381 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:42,440 him? Yeah, that's true. 1382 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:46,120 Like Concepcion and Lemon, like receivers are hard guys. 1383 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,880 Like you guys know this, like receivers like, you know, you 1384 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,320 have to actually really be talented like to to win at the 1385 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:52,760 next level. I can't just turn around and 1386 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,920 hand you the ball. So 50% of the comps for 1387 01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:00,720 Concepcion as well As for Lemon became top 24 wide receivers. 1388 01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,480 Like when you get to Cooper, it drops to 34%. 1389 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,960 So it's definitely a drop and that's why there's a tear break. 1390 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:10,800 But like about 50% of his comps reached top 36. 1391 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,520 So maybe I'm just aligning with JJ here, but I, I just maybe 1392 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,920 it's just I have Jeremy Bernard lower, not so much. 1393 01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,320 What I like about? Cooper. 1394 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,520 What I like about Cooper is like if you're going to sell me on a 1395 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:24,800 ceiling for a like late declare, late breakout wide receiver with 1396 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:28,320 like pretty spotty production, the the top two things I'd want 1397 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,160 to see is like was your per route production strong in a 1398 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,280 limited role prior to your breakout and and it was stronger 1399 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,760 than his rock production. And then do you have a lot of 1400 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,080 balling and skills? And Cooper certainly has that. 1401 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,760 So like he has indicators outside of sort of the the 1402 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:46,200 two-dimensional elements of his profile that get me a little bit 1403 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,720 more excited on a possible ceiling than I would be in a 1404 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,920 vacuum. Am I that bullish on him? 1405 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,720 No, like I think he's a clear step down from Concepcion, but 1406 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,520 it it wouldn't stun me if he has a high ceiling. 1407 01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,200 I I know I'm probably about to pick this guy soon, but it would 1408 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,880 like kind of stun me if Denzel Boston had a super high ceiling. 1409 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,160 Yeah, I'm a tear above Boston post draft, but. 1410 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,480 Yeah, yeah. I'm I'm torn on Thai Simpson or 1411 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,800 Denzel Boston with this pick. I would rather just take the 1412 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:21,400 bullet to my head. But because I'm forced to 1413 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:26,040 choose, honestly, I think I'm gonna just take Thai Simpson. 1414 01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,160 I know generally we're trying to get the feedback a little 1415 01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:32,480 quicker so these assets can appreciate in value and maybe 1416 01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:36,040 it's a red shirt thing, but I'm just so worried that the 1417 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,360 feedback we're going to get from Denzel Boston is going to be so 1418 01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,960 bad that his stock could drop and Ty Simpson so if. 1419 01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,240 You plug an electric guitar into the wrong amp. 1420 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,200 That's the kind of feedback you're getting on Denzel Boston. 1421 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:51,560 So I'll take the like the the Vanguard index fund that will at 1422 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:55,080 least hold its relative value for a for a year here with Ty 1423 01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:55,880 Simpson. But what? 1424 01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:57,240 What are you going to do here, Jacob? 1425 01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,360 Like, I mean, this is the part of the draft where I'm like 1426 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,280 sitting on the clock for six hours just going like at all. 1427 01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,600 Like anyone want to give me a 28 first? 1428 01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:07,400 And it's worked more than you'd think. 1429 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:11,520 I've I've gotten I've traded out of this range, the 1:11 1/12 for 1430 01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,360 28 ones three times already. So wow. 1431 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:21,600 And you're in 7000 leagues. 64 But like a lot of the rookie 1432 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,800 drafts haven't started yet, so you know, we'll we'll keep 1433 01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,880 going. Yeah this I unfortunately have 1434 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:28,359 to pick here. There's no trades. 1435 01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,000 I I too would probably take the bullet, but I'll I'll go with 1436 01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:36,160 with Denzel Boston. I'll go with Denzel Boston here 1437 01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:41,000 with the first of the two picks. Like I don't know. 1438 01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,319 I don't really know how to make a case for this guy. 1439 01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:43,479 Like, I don't think he's very good. 1440 01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,439 But. He has draft capital. 1441 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,479 He has like some production. And then I will note that he was 1442 01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:53,760 behind all the good players, most of whom have been busted in 1443 01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:57,160 the NFL. Washington have Jalen Polk. 1444 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,800 I mean, he was behind atrociously bad Jalen Polk, mid 1445 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,800 Jalen McMillan and probably way more mid than we thought Roman 1446 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,760 Dune say. So that's encouraging and also 1447 01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,640 below. Jeremy Bernard was. 1448 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,760 There, the one case I'd make is like Bernard's. 1449 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,000 Bernard's specific skills are like way more of a match for 1450 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,240 being a wide receiver 4 on a team than Boston. 1451 01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:21,479 I think boss was pretty redundant. 1452 01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,120 So I don't read that as much as like a linear. 1453 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,160 Yeah. So, OK, so I take Boston, who 1454 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,800 stinks. And then and then I'll take 1455 01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:30,240 Jonah Coleman. I'll just take the double 1456 01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:36,200 Washington Husky turn here. So, I mean, I, I was a fan of 1457 01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:39,680 Jonah Coleman as much as you can be a fan of any running back in 1458 01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,680 this class. Oh, oh, never mind. 1459 01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:44,479 I thought we were sneaking. It's a third round reversal. 1460 01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:46,279 We did we we didn't sneak last round. 1461 01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,399 I did, yeah, man, blame AI blame. 1462 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:54,400 AI apparently it's a 3 RR draft so I don't even get Coleman the. 1463 01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,560 Singularity's at least 20 years out guys after this Jonah 1464 01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,680 Coleman mishap here. Well, Dwayne, you're on the 1465 01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:01,880 clock. You don't have to stick with 1466 01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:02,640 Coleman. You can. 1467 01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:03,480 You can turn. Your own path. 1468 01:10:03,480 --> 01:10:06,840 I think he's won again. Please just take Dwayne. 1469 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,040 Please just take Jonah Coleman because I don't think I built an 1470 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:13,520 undo button I want to reset. Like. 1471 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,480 Jonah Coleman. OK. 1472 01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,400 Yeah, that that's fine. Like I have. 1473 01:10:19,480 --> 01:10:22,200 Terrible pair. So here's what I'll say is like 1474 01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:26,600 Jonah Coleman before the draft, he was the number two running 1475 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:30,000 back in the rookie supermodel. You know, now, obviously when 1476 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,400 Jadarian Price, he goes at the end of round one, like that's a 1477 01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,040 big boost and he ultimately leaps. 1478 01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,800 And so with Jonah Coleman, like he's not elite really at 1479 01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,600 anything, but he's good at a lot of things. 1480 01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,000 And I could see him being, you know, a coach's pet kind of 1481 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,680 player. You know, I mean, he's a solid 1482 01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,080 receiver. He's really he's a really good 1483 01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,960 pass blocker. He can do short yardage work. 1484 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,200 I mean, he's only 5-8, but he's like 220, you know, So kind of 1485 01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,840 like that Maurice Jones drew kind of build. 1486 01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,920 So yeah, I'm, I'm fine going with Jonah Coleman here. 1487 01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,840 And the other thing is like his rookie supermodel rating is the 1488 01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:06,560 same as RJ Harvey who went well before where he went that model. 1489 01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,080 Hates RJ Harvey too, so let's go, baby. 1490 01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,840 Look at look at that. You know, always happy to be on 1491 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,200 the same page with JJ with stuff. 1492 01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,440 So yeah, I'm, I'm good with the Coleman pick. 1493 01:11:15,440 --> 01:11:17,920 Thank you, Jacob. I'll, I'll, I'll take it. 1494 01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:22,640 And I think the big thing here like JJ, well, like you're good 1495 01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,320 at this stuff. So JJ Dobbins, like we've got a 1496 01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,160 two year deal. Like I'm not so sure. 1497 01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:31,440 Like if Dobbins went down this year, which like, you know, 1498 01:11:31,480 --> 01:11:34,280 there's a good chance of it, Jonah Coleman may just step, 1499 01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:37,360 step straight into his role and RJ Harvey just stays in the role 1500 01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:38,600 that he's in. I think he was. 1501 01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,800 I think he is. Very likely to do that. 1502 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:42,760 Yeah, I agree. And then that means if that 1503 01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,480 happens by next year, how does everyone feel about Jonah 1504 01:11:45,480 --> 01:11:48,160 Coleman in this backfield? We would probably be projecting 1505 01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:49,960 him as the running back one like it can happen. 1506 01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:51,440 Yeah. I think the real question is 1507 01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:54,000 like what are the odds that Jonah Coleman in the dynasty 1508 01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:58,120 market is valued higher than RJ Harvey post 2026? 1509 01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,800 61%. I think it's, I think it's, I 1510 01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:03,880 think, I honestly think it's a lot higher than what other 1511 01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:05,560 people would generally. I agree with that. 1512 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:07,480 You know, I would take I think. It's higher than 50%. 1513 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,440 I think it's higher. Than 50% I don't but I just 1514 01:12:10,440 --> 01:12:13,320 think because there's like a decent chunk of the time where 1515 01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,480 this around 4 running back in this class just. 1516 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,680 Stinks. So here, here, that's definitely 1517 01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,680 true. But my, my, so I think that that 1518 01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:25,040 Denver 1,000,000% just wanted a guy who could just take on 1519 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,160 something last year. And RJ Harvey clearly couldn't 1520 01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,160 do that between the tackles. He was just not able to take on 1521 01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,720 that role. And then they get a player who's 1522 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,560 just reliable, right, like just a a a dude. 1523 01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:40,080 And so from my standpoint, like I'm not saying that like I think 1524 01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,320 within the context of this class, I like Jonah Coleman, 1525 01:12:42,440 --> 01:12:44,680 right within the context of this class. 1526 01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:48,920 But I also think that that given the way that Sean Payton runs 1527 01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,200 his backfields, we know there's likely going to be a committee 1528 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:52,760 here. So Coleman's going to get some 1529 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:54,680 run. And then I think what will 1530 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:58,680 happen is that we if you're drafting Coleman, you there 1531 01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,360 could be a really decent sell opportunity after year one 1532 01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:02,840 where. I agree with you there, yeah. 1533 01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,520 You know, like situation just kind of like comes together for 1534 01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,880 him and then you're like, well, this isn't that great of a pro. 1535 01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,000 Like it's a fine profile, don't get me wrong, but it's not like 1536 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:13,000 amazing, right? And so then that's when you're 1537 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,120 making that that sell. So you might get some. 1538 01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:16,880 There's that. Like Trey Benson window where 1539 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:20,440 you're like, as long as I just do my damnedest to get out of 1540 01:13:20,440 --> 01:13:22,120 this. It's it went on when it's 1541 01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,120 available. And I think that Coleman's at 1542 01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:28,520 least like a good enough all around back that that he can he 1543 01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,960 can get some production, you know, in the right situation, 1544 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:32,600 which I think this is a decent enough situation. 1545 01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,480 I would have gone receiver here, but likely one of the ones I 1546 01:13:35,480 --> 01:13:39,640 want will be here still in this second round reversal scenario 1547 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:41,600 like when it all comes back to me so. 1548 01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,280 Yeah, we're going to pick up the pace here. 1549 01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:47,680 Cooper. You have a truly Choose Your Own 1550 01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:51,200 adventure selection here at Pick What 14. 1551 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:55,600 Yes, and, and Stour's Cooper Simpson, Boston Coleman were a 1552 01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,400 tier in my rankings and it the tier was basically formed like 1553 01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:03,560 like in scooby-doo where there's something scary and you poke 1554 01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,920 your head around the the corner and it's even scarier in the 1555 01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:07,960 other room. Like that's that's the crew that 1556 01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:12,760 we have here and I there's two guys that I'm between that are 1557 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:16,440 to me are very similar profiles. I don't want to name drop both 1558 01:14:16,440 --> 01:14:18,920 of them, but I'll I'll I'll mention. 1559 01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:20,520 This is for a lot of money. Don't tell. 1560 01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,000 Them. OK, OK, well, I'll throw them 1561 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,360 both up. I'm so close between Jeremy 1562 01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,000 Bernard and Antonio Williams and it's very difficult for me to 1563 01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,960 decide between those guys. But right now, I'm on Jeremy 1564 01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,320 Bernard. I do feel like he's the more 1565 01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,080 boring pick. I'm gonna take Jared Bernard. 1566 01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:35,720 I think he's the more boring pick here. 1567 01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:40,520 It's kind of like I could see him being a Van Jefferson in the 1568 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:44,360 league where coaches love him. Boy, that's exciting at the two 1569 01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,560 O 2. Two O 1 Van Jefferson. 1570 01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,840 You just say Van Jefferson. Two O 1 The argument was that 1571 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,280 you can hopefully sell him before the window slam shot. 1572 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:53,800 You know what I mean? Like that's the part of the 1573 01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:55,160 draft here. You guys talk about Jonah 1574 01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,040 Coleman. Was there ever a sell moment on 1575 01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,120 Van Jefferson other than just releasing him? 1576 01:14:59,440 --> 01:15:00,840 But I'm saying that's what I'm worried. 1577 01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,440 I'm worried about this guy is going to be just like the next 1578 01:15:04,440 --> 01:15:08,040 man up type guy that plays a little slot, can do anything if 1579 01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,320 somebody gets hurt, but doesn't really do anything great. 1580 01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:14,440 But I the way I look at it is the Steelers wanted this part of 1581 01:15:14,440 --> 01:15:16,920 their offense, right? We know that for a fact because 1582 01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,160 they had Makai Lemon on the phone they wanted. 1583 01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,720 It's really close to Denzel Boston for me and the rookie 1584 01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,160 supermodel. Like they're one point apart. 1585 01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:25,880 They wanted this guy in the scheme. 1586 01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:27,640 That might be Denzel Boston stat. 1587 01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:29,840 In the second round, they made him a priority. 1588 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,280 There is a story. For me, I think this type of 1589 01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,840 guy, he got the second round draft capital. 1590 01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,600 They wanted this type of player, they made this type of player a 1591 01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:42,520 priority. Jeremy Bernard, I mean, he's not 1592 01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:46,480 super sexy, but I think that given the the scheme they want 1593 01:15:46,480 --> 01:15:48,640 to run there and and the draft capital, I'm going. 1594 01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,280 Yeah. All right, I'll, I'll, I'll just 1595 01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,120 go, I'll, I'll take Antonio Williams next. 1596 01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:55,280 They're they're they're all saying the same thing. 1597 01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,800 I'm actually more bullish on Bernard than others are. 1598 01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:01,400 I know his like yards per out run profiles, dog poop. 1599 01:16:01,440 --> 01:16:05,920 Yeah, but he also like Jeremy Bernard also played with a lot 1600 01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:09,120 of NFLers throughout his career, like he played with with with 1601 01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:12,880 Keon Coleman, the C count, Jayden Reid at Michigan State. 1602 01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:17,080 And then there's the Washington guys, there's the Ryan Williams, 1603 01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:18,800 you know, and, and and his last stop. 1604 01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:23,080 So like he's played with serious competition and you know, his 1605 01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:24,680 numbers aren't like out of control, but he was also 1606 01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,720 versatile. We know they need a slot player 1607 01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,280 and the Steelers could also get out of both Michael Pittman and 1608 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,120 DK Metcalf hypothetically next year. 1609 01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:32,720 So there's there's that opportunity. 1610 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:36,120 But Speaking of opportunity, Antonio Williams perfect spot 1611 01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:39,240 for him to go to. You know, he definitely profiles 1612 01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:43,080 as a slot, but in the ZAP model, I don't I don't use yard for out 1613 01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:46,680 running the ZAP model. And so the model is looking at, 1614 01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:48,640 you know, receiving yards per team pass attempt and all these, 1615 01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:50,760 you know, other different metrics and such and breakout 1616 01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,240 score. And he his top comp was Ladd 1617 01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,520 Mcconkey. Now, that doesn't mean that it 1618 01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,400 was, you know, that that the model like was adored Ladd 1619 01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,800 Mcconkey. It didn't mind him because there 1620 01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,600 is the versatility to Antonio Williams profile as well, 1621 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,440 similar to Ladd similar size, all that kind of stuff. 1622 01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,960 And we're already hearing out of Washington that they're going to 1623 01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,000 use him both in slot and potentially in the Z. 1624 01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:16,080 And that's huge for not only, you know, his fantasy upside, 1625 01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:19,400 but also today's game in the NFL to be able to play on the 1626 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,680 perimeter with these heavier sets and such. 1627 01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,480 So I am I'm going to Antonio Williams here. 1628 01:17:24,480 --> 01:17:27,040 I think he had a, he was, you know, another profile like 1629 01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:31,200 Concepcion in a way where the breakout wasn't as, wasn't as 1630 01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:35,160 immense as Concepcion's early on, but he he did enough early 1631 01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,120 on to get something. He just didn't have that like 1632 01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,120 Spike, you know, throughout his collegiate career. 1633 01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,120 And that was the biggest problem analytically for me. 1634 01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:43,720 Korain, you're on the clock next. 1635 01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:45,760 And I will just say this is such a funny area of the draft 1636 01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,760 because I actually have almost all of your guys's rankings and 1637 01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:51,480 I did like an aggregated thing and, and looking at it and all 1638 01:17:51,480 --> 01:17:54,280 of them, it's like everybody will be in line like roughly on 1639 01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:55,480 one. And then someone will have one 1640 01:17:55,480 --> 01:17:58,400 of these guys ranked 25 in like every one of these wide 1641 01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,040 receivers. Like someone is like I. 1642 01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,600 Believe it out. On this guy and everyone else, 1643 01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,880 like whatever 14, it's just. I mean, I've noticed it in 1644 01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:07,360 drafts. Like it's like, for instance, 1645 01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,560 like one guy that like I, I was super low on was like Malachi 1646 01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,240 Fields. But then I'll, I'll see him go 1647 01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,160 like frequently in the middle of the second round and I'll be 1648 01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:17,640 like, I haven't ranked like the 4th, but I'm like, that's a 1649 01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,080 totally reasonable pick. Like, it's kind of just like 1650 01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:22,800 shoot your shot, you know, once you get in this range. 1651 01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:25,320 But we know what Pat's doing here. 1652 01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,680 Yeah, I'm gonna, I'll take, I'll take Deshawn's dribbling at this 1653 01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,720 point. I mean, I do think this is like 1654 01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:35,600 JJ was talking about with your Jonah Coleman, you know, kind of 1655 01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,360 window, the cell window. I'm thinking about my cell 1656 01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:41,120 window on Stribling. I think the, the market's 1657 01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:45,920 reaction to him going 33rd, you know, being so vocal kind of 1658 01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:50,960 helps me because now he like, if he does anything, it's going to 1659 01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,960 be surprisingly productive to like the vast majority of 1660 01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,520 people. And I do think like there is 1661 01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,280 opportunity here. Like I, I don't think Ricky 1662 01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,480 Piersall is very good. Ricky Piersall is like just as 1663 01:19:01,480 --> 01:19:04,120 much of A reach going in the first round as as Stribling was 1664 01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:08,840 ultimately, and hasn't really shown anything to, you know, be 1665 01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,480 better than the other guy they reached for more recently. 1666 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,280 Makes you feel great about their process. 1667 01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,760 Well, you know they they did like I you I thought was. 1668 01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:18,840 They've been way better than running back. 1669 01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,000 Yeah, they've been well. I would have been like 1670 01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,640 analytically I've been like, oh, that's that's kind of high 1671 01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:25,000 price. That was a great pick. 1672 01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:26,720 Like I think they have been actually pretty solid. 1673 01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,920 I mean, even Pierce, who I'm a huge fan of, like he's a starter 1674 01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:31,840 for them currently. So has been a disaster. 1675 01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:35,800 Well, you know, Pearsall was available kind of in the I think 1676 01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,400 early to mid second Jacob, you would you would remember better 1677 01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,960 than me what his ADP was and his rookie year, but I believe. 1678 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,560 His ADP was the two O 4. OK, Yeah. 1679 01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,120 In rookie drafts. Yeah, pretty big sell 1680 01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,880 opportunity that you had on Pearsall entering year 2. 1681 01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,080 You got a bunch of hype about the route running, how well he 1682 01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:56,440 fits the scheme, all that stuff. Like you could easily get that 1683 01:19:56,440 --> 01:20:00,560 with Stribling entering year 2. Now is it like unwarranted and 1684 01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:02,120 immediately fizzles? Yeah, probably. 1685 01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:04,440 But like. I just think you're you're in a 1686 01:20:04,440 --> 01:20:06,120 position where you can bet on the draft capital. 1687 01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,000 You can bet on him to flash in his rookie season. 1688 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,000 And then the hype campaign starts in year 2 with 1689 01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,680 potentially Evans no longer there with Pierce all like 1690 01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:16,280 cementing himself. Is is no one that you need to 1691 01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,640 worry about and in the Shanahan offense with with locked in 1692 01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:21,600 quarterback play. That's pretty good with Purdy. 1693 01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:26,760 So, yeah, I mean, basically what Jacob said about Denzel Boston, 1694 01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:28,360 This guy probably stinks, but I'm betting on the draft 1695 01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:29,840 capital. But I get to do it, you know, 1696 01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:34,040 half the round later. All right, I am on the. 1697 01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:36,960 Clock I checked by the way my memory failed when he was the 1698 01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,800 two O 5 that. Was like, that was so robotic. 1699 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,560 Man, that was impressive. It was wrong. 1700 01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:47,400 It was close. Because I've clearly set up like 1701 01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:52,040 a a three-way a three-year rebuild when I took Ty Simpson. 1702 01:20:52,440 --> 01:20:56,320 I'm gonna continue to fund the next two years and take Chris 1703 01:20:56,320 --> 01:21:00,480 Bell and hope he heals in Miami, finds a quarterback sometime 1704 01:21:00,480 --> 01:21:04,120 within the next decade. But if that happens, guys, watch 1705 01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:07,440 out because this guy, he can fuck on the field. 1706 01:21:07,440 --> 01:21:09,720 Chris Bell, come on down. That that's what I wanted. 1707 01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:11,720 My last pick to be was Chris Bell. 1708 01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,120 Sorry, Dwayne, the AI said. He's mine. 1709 01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:15,200 Good, good. Upset. 1710 01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:18,400 But he's not. Can we stop the A.J. 1711 01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:19,440 Brown stuff? He's not A.J. 1712 01:21:19,440 --> 01:21:22,600 Brown. Yes, he doesn't he he doesn't 1713 01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,200 compare like analytically at all. 1714 01:21:25,480 --> 01:21:28,520 But like he compares to Xavier Legat pretty nicely. 1715 01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:29,200 Yeah, that's. True. 1716 01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:33,040 Well, like whenever, whenever there there was a steam that he 1717 01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,800 was going to be a round one pick like the rookie supermodel was 1718 01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:37,520 like that would be a massive reach. 1719 01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:41,320 Like the the supermodel some as a round two or round three pick 1720 01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:45,040 like in drafts anyway, but it's like what you? 1721 01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:48,600 Said Brian Edwards, Michael Wilson, Cedric Tillman were my 1722 01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:49,840 top. Comp but it's like what Jacob 1723 01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:51,600 said earlier with Omar Cooper Junior. 1724 01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,200 It's like if you're going to tell yourself a story on a 1725 01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:58,400 player, it's like, OK, there's no one on the Dolphins and like 1726 01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:01,600 this guy can be a really good Yak player and an offense is 1727 01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,680 going to I think going to try to run the ball even in losing game 1728 01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:06,200 scrubs. Like they've got a defensive 1729 01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:09,160 minded head coach, they've got, you know, an offensive 1730 01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:10,720 coordinator from that kind of style. 1731 01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:12,520 He's going to want to lose honorably. 1732 01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:14,760 Yeah. So I mean, but play action, 1733 01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:17,040 getting that guy the ball in the middle of the field, like you 1734 01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:19,160 could center your offense around a player like that for a few 1735 01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:20,160 years. They're going to draft someone 1736 01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:22,480 else next year, so he's going to have immediate competition. 1737 01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:24,680 But yeah, I like the pick of Chris Bell. 1738 01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:29,120 Jacob he he's a guy that like going back to like Devi world. 1739 01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,720 I was preparing to just fade the shit out of going back to the 1740 01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,200 fall and Ricky drafts this year. And then when he got injured and 1741 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,120 he falls, I'm I've I've at least been mixing them in. 1742 01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:43,200 Yeah, I have two guys left in my my tear of sadness in the early 1743 01:22:43,480 --> 01:22:44,800 2. So I'll take them. 1744 01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:49,880 First guy is just like a a like I would say it's like an 80% 1745 01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:51,760 chance. This guy does literally nothing 1746 01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,800 on my dynasty team ever. But there's like a sliver of an 1747 01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:58,360 outcome where I could see him being a pretty high ceiling guy. 1748 01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,120 So give me Nick Singleton. Big Dick. 1749 01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:06,280 Nick here is the first pick. He is blind and then as like 1750 01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:08,440 virtually no like feel for for how to. 1751 01:23:08,440 --> 01:23:11,880 Fund Dating. Profile you know, much like the 1752 01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,320 squirrel that tried to attack me yesterday like he runs with a 1753 01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,240 ferocity and and no awareness of whether the window is shot. 1754 01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:22,040 But like he can he can create a lot of explosive plays and most 1755 01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,000 importantly for fantasy, like we're talking about a a 1756 01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:27,960 workhorse size player with probably elite athleticism. 1757 01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:31,120 He didn't, he didn't test as the broken foot, but it looks really 1758 01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:33,600 fast to me. And you have one of the better 1759 01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,920 receiving profiles in the class too, especially. 1760 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,360 My my case for Stribling should have been Pete's about to draft 1761 01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,760 a guy with a torn ACL and Jacob's about to draft a blind 1762 01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:46,640 man with a broken foot. It's time to draft 33rd overall 1763 01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,440 pick on the draft. Give me your blind. 1764 01:23:49,440 --> 01:23:55,280 You're broken. You're my my next pick. 1765 01:23:56,240 --> 01:24:00,360 It's probably is is easily like my guy in the 2026 rookie class. 1766 01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:06,840 So I I will take Mr. Eli Raritan, who I I legitimately 1767 01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:10,000 love compared to his his draft price, which has been in the mid 1768 01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:11,960 3rd and Ricky drafts is the huge reach. 1769 01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:16,280 But a player that I have a lot of confidence in being the best 1770 01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,880 like blocker at the head end position on on New England. 1771 01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:22,280 Honestly, from potentially day one in terms of what he was able 1772 01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:27,560 to prove as a run to run blocker and pass blocker even in games 1773 01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,320 against like Messidor and Bain for Notre Dame. 1774 01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,640 And then more importantly to me, you have a ton of receiving 1775 01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,440 juice that might be untapped because you have the two ACL's 1776 01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:39,520 that really limited the early production in his final season, 1777 01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,360 which is really the only one that he had meaningful receiving 1778 01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,480 production. And you get a lower receiving 1779 01:24:45,480 --> 01:24:48,120 yards per team pass attempt. But part of that is because he 1780 01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:51,320 was held into pass block on 31% of routes in college. 1781 01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:53,320 Like if that translates to the NFL, he's dead. 1782 01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:54,480 But I don't really think it will. 1783 01:24:54,480 --> 01:24:57,480 I think it was kind of a weird Notre Dame scheme thing because 1784 01:24:57,480 --> 01:25:00,320 you're looking at a guy who has over 15 yards per reception, 1785 01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:04,720 2.23 final season yards per route run, and over a 9.8 Ras. 1786 01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,960 So it's not like he's a guy who profiles as some tip Ryman. 1787 01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:10,800 I think that the blocking stuff works in his favor and that he's 1788 01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:12,400 going to be able to play a ton of snaps. 1789 01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:15,080 So really excited about rare. I think he's going to have a 1790 01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,920 legitimate role this year and I think he's he's potentially just 1791 01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:22,360 the like 90% snap rate starter for Drake Mays offense as early 1792 01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,800 as 2027. I was going to take him there, 1793 01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:28,120 but coming in from on ship chasing for the first time and 1794 01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:31,120 reaching for a tight end as a tight end guy plays for my 1795 01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:34,480 favorite team would have would have been a violation. 1796 01:25:34,480 --> 01:25:37,560 But I, I think you can make an easy argument that the scheme 1797 01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,360 also to your point, Sanderson, where he did a ton of blocking 1798 01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:45,160 that that win against him, we're blocking on 25% of your pass 1799 01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:46,680 plays. He was still able to put up 1800 01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,720 those numbers. You're talking about the 2.33 1801 01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:52,320 yards per route run. Like we've seen teams draft guys 1802 01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:56,240 like a big example would be Rashi Rice and just totally 1803 01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:57,480 change how they're used to the next. 1804 01:25:57,480 --> 01:25:59,760 Level well Andrew, when you block they don't use that for 1805 01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:02,440 your yards per route run. That's just FYI he. 1806 01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:07,080 Was an interesting guy where his his yards like depending on what 1807 01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:09,560 you look at his yards per route run in the final season was way 1808 01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,600 better than his yards per team pass attempts because on 30, 30% 1809 01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:15,480 of his team pass attempts he was blocking so. 1810 01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:18,720 But at the same time, they still, they still used him for a 1811 01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,760 good he wasn't just like a pure inline blocking tight end like 1812 01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,480 we see like with Sam Roush where it's like not only is he 1813 01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:29,520 blocking a decent amount, but he he's being used in line for like 1814 01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,440 70% of his snaps. Like with Raritan, they still 1815 01:26:32,440 --> 01:26:35,680 lined him up in the slot and out wide like 50% of the time is 1816 01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:37,760 wide receiver snaps. They moved him around. 1817 01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:40,920 So like he has that to his profile where you don't just 1818 01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:42,280 throw him in with the other block and that ends. 1819 01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:44,200 That's for me. Raritan is my tight end 3 just 1820 01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:46,400 like he went here. Me too. 1821 01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,240 I would have been really happy to get him. 1822 01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:52,120 I mean, he the other thing about him is that he led the FBS in 1823 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:56,360 deep yards at the tight end position last year with 282 on 1824 01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:59,960 20 plus yard targets. And it's like, you know, you 1825 01:26:59,960 --> 01:27:02,400 talk about like a Sam Roush or like a lot of guys in this 1826 01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:04,600 class. It's just kind of the classic 1827 01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:08,200 little like, you know, throw me, throw me a little check down 1828 01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:11,400 kind of kind of tight end production where you're hoping 1829 01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:14,360 they eventually become a full time starter And they, you know, 1830 01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,760 it's like you find the next Dalton Schultz or, you know, 1831 01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:19,800 whatever kind of guy in that mold. 1832 01:27:20,440 --> 01:27:24,280 And Raritan at least has like a profile where he does have the 1833 01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:25,960 elite wrasse. He's got really good speed for 1834 01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:29,080 the position. He was moved around a bit and he 1835 01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:31,080 lands with a with a great quarterback who loves to throw 1836 01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,560 deep. So he does have this profile 1837 01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:37,320 where there's at least it's it's pretty thin, but you could see 1838 01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:41,280 him actually like adding something to an NFL offense in a 1839 01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:46,200 way that tight ends often don't. So I, you know, at this point in 1840 01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:48,720 the draft, I think that that upside makes him worth it. 1841 01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:52,960 I am. Next I'm going to select 1842 01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:58,160 Zachariah Branch. He's fast, He's a wide receiver. 1843 01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,880 He's got 2 quarterbacks with just absolute cannons of an arm 1844 01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:04,200 who should be able to get him the ball deep deep down the 1845 01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:06,480 field. I have nothing else nice to say 1846 01:28:06,480 --> 01:28:09,280 about him. Karain, you are on the clock. 1847 01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:16,320 I am the true ship chaser because I'm going to piss yellow 1848 01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,840 here and take my fourth straight wide receiver. 1849 01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:23,240 I grabbed my guy Ted Hurst, who I mean, Hurst, I think has like 1850 01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:25,920 a super low floor. He's a small school guy. 1851 01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:31,000 He transferred into a like a smaller, unimpressive program in 1852 01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:35,280 his junior season, stayed for a senior season rather than 1853 01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,280 entering the NFL and rather than just transferring somewhere 1854 01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:40,920 else, but dominated the production at Georgia State for 1855 01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:45,240 two seasons and did so by being a true deep threat, plays 1856 01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:47,720 outside. He's got decent size, like 206 1857 01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:50,440 lbs. He's really fast and I think 1858 01:28:50,440 --> 01:28:54,080 there's opportunities for him to have that type of role in the 1859 01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,560 Buccaneers offense pretty quickly because they they have 1860 01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,680 guys that can play outside but are more like intermediate 1861 01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:06,000 winners, you know, and Godwin and in Abuka and McMillan, I 1862 01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:09,800 think, you know, those guys are more like Z slot type guys. 1863 01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:13,640 And so maybe you have Ted Hurst down the stretch carving out a, 1864 01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,840 a pretty solid role for himself as as like a big outside 1865 01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:20,840 downfield guy. Yeah, that's that's about it. 1866 01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:25,360 JJ, Your. Final pick, Let's just go, Let's 1867 01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:27,160 just go Elijah Serrat with the next. 1868 01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:30,080 One JJ. Just a really good production 1869 01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,360 profile, really good age adjusted production, got better 1870 01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:34,760 every year, was a zero star recruit, but just kept getting 1871 01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:36,480 better playing at different programs. 1872 01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:40,240 And I think he's going to work well in a big slot role in in 1873 01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:44,120 Baltimore, yeah. 93 production rating in the rookie supermodel. 1874 01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:47,880 It's the sixth highest all time and those guys don't always work 1875 01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:50,560 out. But you know, most guys that are 1876 01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:52,760 productive in the league were also good in college, so. 1877 01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,760 Dwayne sniped again. Coop, you're going to go out 1878 01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:59,240 with a brand, play a tight end or you going to go somewhere 1879 01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:00,320 else? Let's do it. 1880 01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:02,360 Pull up the tab, pull the tight end tab. 1881 01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:07,120 And I am also like JJ A. Terrace Church for Kurt shirt 1882 01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:10,000 for Kurt. Shirt Now I'm a I'm a Terrence 1883 01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:12,520 Ferguson guy, so I will not be taking Max Claire. 1884 01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,880 I'm going to take Eli. I'm going to take Eli. 1885 01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:18,680 Sorry, Oscar Del, I like Oscar Delph here. 1886 01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:21,120 Is he not even there? He is. 1887 01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:23,480 No, he is. You can make a lot of the same 1888 01:30:23,480 --> 01:30:27,080 arguments that you're making for Eli Raritan about Oscar Del In 1889 01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:28,760 Fact 33. You can make the arguments 1890 01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:31,800 you're making for Kenyan Sadiq. I mean, you can, right? 1891 01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:35,520 He's got the he's got the speed, the pro day, you know, even if 1892 01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:39,240 you adjust it up to 453, like some people are doing 454, like 1893 01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:43,960 that's still 96 percentile. And he did go somewhere where 1894 01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:47,280 they currently have a guy who's turning 30 that was a wide 1895 01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:49,080 receiver that converted into a tight end. 1896 01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:52,520 And and he can kind of learn from him how you grow into that 1897 01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:54,840 type of role. So for me, I think Oscar Dump 1898 01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:57,120 could be the heir apparent to Juan Johnson. 1899 01:30:57,480 --> 01:31:00,200 He's got the size, speed, all that is just the production 1900 01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:03,000 brutal. So you just got to hope that 1901 01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:04,320 Georgia just should not know how to. 1902 01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:09,000 That little that little detail. Otherwise I was the production 1903 01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:11,360 just brutal ends. I almost took him. 1904 01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:12,600 I almost took him with the last pick. 1905 01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:16,560 So I like, I like the dull. Pick Dwayne, bring us on home 1906 01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:19,920 AKA put us out of our misery. Oh my God. 1907 01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,720 He wanted to do 2 rounds for the record, just to take everyone 1908 01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:24,520 behind the court. We're about to finish up the 1909 01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:27,520 fourth round here. I thought we were going to do 1910 01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:31,000 another few. I literally I had to end this 1911 01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:34,480 show 3 minutes ago and I just had to listen to a conversation 1912 01:31:34,480 --> 01:31:37,800 about players who will like not be in the league in a year and a 1913 01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:41,560 half so. All right, Yeah. 1914 01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:46,480 So just give me Jacoby Lane. Like I wanted Elijah Serrat, but 1915 01:31:46,480 --> 01:31:49,200 like I also know in the range of outcomes, like there's a chance 1916 01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:52,680 that like Lane becomes their second target eventually. 1917 01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,320 So just give me him. It's uninspiring. 1918 01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:56,920 I was torn between him and Skylar Bell. 1919 01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:59,480 Skylar Bell, like obviously his stuff was when he was older, but 1920 01:31:59,480 --> 01:32:02,080 he is attached to Josh Allen. So you can make that argument, 1921 01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:05,760 but I'll I'll take Jacoby Lane. I almost took Carson. 1922 01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,040 I almost took Carson Beck with my pet. 1923 01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:11,240 Yeah, yeah. I can't do that because I made 1924 01:32:11,480 --> 01:32:14,520 Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I just think there's 1925 01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:17,400 like from a value perspective, there's in the market, there's a 1926 01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:20,360 chance that you can get something once you become a 1927 01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:23,960 starter at the at some point. I'm so torn between like, on one 1928 01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:26,920 hand, it's like this is one of the worst draft classes ever and 1929 01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:30,800 you can get a guy who's like -150 to be starting by week 10 1930 01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:32,480 of this season at the quarterback position of 1931 01:32:32,480 --> 01:32:34,960 Superflex at like the 212. And then the other hand on his 1932 01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:36,720 shoulders, like, bro, it's Carson back. 1933 01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:39,640 I don't. Know if they're like we're we're 1934 01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:40,720 wrong. We're wrong. 1935 01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:42,200 For the record, he's in this tier. 1936 01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:44,840 We could probably re rule everyone was probably saying the 1937 01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,000 exact same thing about Tyler Shuck last year and I get it. 1938 01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:50,360 But like I just with quarterback, when you're talking 1939 01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:53,000 that low of opportunity cost, like I've drafted back at the 1940 01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:55,240 beginning of round three like pretty consistently. 1941 01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:57,400 Yeah, I have two. Yeah, yeah. 1942 01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:00,920 All right. I do have 21 in my ranks. 1943 01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:02,160 I'm I'm generally with you guys. Yeah, I. 1944 01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:04,760 Meant 20, yeah. To power this down, but I 1945 01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:08,320 appreciate Dwayne, JJ, Andrew giving us their time today. 1946 01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,960 Obviously, Dwayne over at fantasy life, go check out the 1947 01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,280 rookie supermodel. He's got profiles on all of 1948 01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:15,680 these guys, analytical deep dives, all that good stuff. 1949 01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:18,000 Even projections recently pushed out. 1950 01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:21,440 JJ, of course, the late round draft guide. 1951 01:33:21,440 --> 01:33:24,720 Go get that of course, freshened up after the NFL draft. 1952 01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:27,280 Cooper, what do people need to check out over in your neck of 1953 01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,040 the woods? Yep, fantasy alarm. 1954 01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:32,200 We got our best ball rankings up, Dynasty, redraft, everything 1955 01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:35,000 already going. And check us out SiriusXM 1956 01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:37,960 channel 87, six to 8:00 PM on weekdays. 1957 01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:41,160 Beautiful Pat Jacob. Any other last things that 1958 01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:44,560 weren't mentioned last night on ADP Chasing? 1959 01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:49,800 Matt Irby just had a article go live this morning on running 1960 01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:53,680 back dynasty cells that I feel like people watching would be 1961 01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:55,400 pretty into. And there's some spicy cells. 1962 01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:58,200 These are not like, you know, cheap, cheap little running 1963 01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:00,480 backs, a couple, a couple second year running backs. 1964 01:34:00,480 --> 01:34:02,560 He had a cell. So it's a fun one. 1965 01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:06,440 And yeah, Dynasty rankings had an update late last week. 1966 01:34:06,440 --> 01:34:09,880 Gonna be updating them for one quarterback leagues in the next 1967 01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:12,760 day or two. Yeah, nothing, nothing new from 1968 01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:15,520 like when we were on the air 21 hours ago. 1969 01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:18,720 But yeah, we got all the rankings updated, all the rookie 1970 01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:22,360 content if you have drafts and I have DraftKings best ball 1971 01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:24,440 rankings up there now too, as well as as underdogs. 1972 01:34:24,440 --> 01:34:25,400 So if you want to check that out. 1973 01:34:26,440 --> 01:34:29,120 One other housekeeping note, I've been meaning to mention 1974 01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:31,720 this on a stream and keep forgetting but we have locked in 1975 01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:35,000 the dates for our annual ship chasing meet up. 1976 01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:37,680 If you guys are in the discord and YouTube members or YouTube 1977 01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:39,680 members, I did a post for you guys. 1978 01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:42,240 We have the dates. It's going to be August 1st and 1979 01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:46,080 2nd in Austin TX. We will have a night even for 1980 01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:49,280 just people locally who aren't YouTube members to hopefully 1981 01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:51,160 come and hang out. But if you guys want to do the 1982 01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:53,720 drafts, you want to do the water activities with us on Sunday, 1983 01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:56,720 make sure you get in the discord and fill out that form. 1984 01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:58,720 Or you can hit me up if you have more questions. 1985 01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:03,120 But going to be a very fun hot time in Austin, TX this summer. 1986 01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:05,200 Thank you to everyone for hanging out in the chat. 1987 01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:08,640 Thanks again to Coop, JJ and Dwayne, we'll see you guys on 1988 01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:10,160 Tuesday for ADP Chasing peace.