All right, it's Wednesday. Lots to cover tonight seismic
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on Deon Jackson? Plus our co-managers from the
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I'll get you. It still gets me.
I mean that is I had people like the my DFS intro to and I always
worry, like I personally start to get bored with the same intro
over and over, but people seem to just like the same thing
every single time. So I'm like, hey, that makes my
life easier. If I don't have to update, it
would be like one of the things I could be like a season, you
know, like maybe next year. Next spring, we could do like a
new like a brand-new one. Unroll it for a year, but I like
a kind of. You forget like, you're like, oh
yeah. That Cliff really tickled me
this time. I don't know if you'll ever be
able to get me to remove the Sean saying, I guess we're
finally piss boys IV that that just has to be the Bedrock.
I think of any video, the I think the only ways that we get
Sean to say that we're busy Boys in an even more interesting way.
He's not even do it again, actually, maybe the fantasy,
landscape will be so different. Next year during drafting
season, and we're forced to draft running backs all the time
that will just even have Dips the piss boy.
Last we're finally robust Bros that would actually probably get
even harder to get shot to say. Yes.
We don't think vomiting green next year, I'm gonna be a fun
landscape. Yeah, and I still think we have
plenty of recency bias to kind of carry into the offseason, but
if the season were to stop right now and we were to start
drafting for next year, right? Now it would be a shit show in
those drafting streets for sure. Well I mean, I think you'd still
have Travis etn would go super, super high priests all would go
super, super high. I think you'd still have some,
some early round running backs, for sure, I guess that's a good
point. I mean, we did have a bit of an
elite running back Renaissance this past week Henry goes, nuts,
Tamara EMC. Chimera has his Renaissance is
Chimera back? Like I was worried about his
explosive plays and he looked pretty damn Explosive on.
So, I think he's back. I mean, Andy Dalton, it's
perfect. He's checking down to him all
the time. They're like a run first team
but the they're passing enough to the running back.
You know they've got Chris, Allah, be stretching the field.
Crystal lobbies, like sneaky, awesome for Chimera, right?
Like he's a field stretcher commands targets.
So there's like, you know like the offense is working at
levels. I think it's the think he's
pretty well set up. Yeah, yeah, Gretsch.
How are you doing tonight? I'm good.
I'm still house in my dinner. Oh yeah.
A chimera 1010 hype have any touches.
The last two weeks haven't had more than six and he was first
four games. Like he wasn't really getting
the work, you didn't have a single green zone, touching his
first four games has four in the last couple weeks and he scored
him distance this last week. I mean, you look great and
everything. And like who's stealing touches
from now, Mark? Ingram?
What is going to be on IR? Take some pills like the only
guy. And even where the taste of
he'll slap, these have been a little quiet these past few
weeks, where are where all the victory lappers these days.
She's not gonna call him by name.
Taysom Hill for a fourth down to, like, do the hard count to
get the opposing team to jump offsides.
Like, tasting me. Take some hills, your hard count
guy. I got that.
I thought I could handle the hard count.
Real quick. As a western setting me up for a
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I watched it this morning Draco and Sam doing an awesome job
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It is really the best way to get yourself primed for waivers, for
trades for the DFS week. Really great stuff from those
guys. What were, you know?
I know you guys have done, some content posts trade deadline
here, where there any sneaky things you guys thought for
Fantasy? Anything particularly big, that
could change the landscape in a way that we didn't necessarily
see coming. I think Jeff Wilson was a yeah,
was a big one. I think he was like the bigot of
the guys that moved. I think he was sort of the
biggest winner. He's been really effective this
year in the last couple of years was San Francisco.
He knows the system. A lot, like most are coming
over. I think one of the things with
most are really taking over that backfield.
It's gone. Overlooked is it Chase Evans has
just like sucked. He's been really a.
Yeah, it's like it every way. Like he's been a poor runner.
Oh yeah, thats was a healthy scratch last week too.
Yeah. Ed.
Had a had a really bad Drop In The End Zone a couple weeks ago,
like, right off his hands, completely wide open, like he
just wasn't. I mean, I'm not saying he sucks.
I'm saying he has played very, very bad.
Like, he's played like he sucks saying he's, yeah.
I like I'm saying, like he could be better going forward, but he
has played in crept. Like his bad as you can play.
It's almost like Johnny how bad he's played, which my point
being most art takes over the whole backfield might not really
have. Then their plan with no sir and
might have been more to do with Edmonds and this trade with
Wilson. I mean, it wouldn't surprise me
if they're in a 50/50 pretty quick.
That's what they kind of came out with with Edmonds and most
or to start most are pretty quickly became the lead and then
became the pretty strongly. I don't know that he's like a
locked-in Workhorse, you know, like, he's not like a super
healthy guy, either, and if he ends up getting hurt, then
Wilson could potentially be the Workhorse.
So I don't think it needs to get her good all mean they didn't
plan for him to be the starter right?
Like Sucking was not the plan. They paid him a decent amount of
money. Most are, it's an older guy.
He hasn't been that great. You mentioned Jeff Olson being
really good. He's ninth and NFL nextgen's,
rush yards. Over expected per attempt.
Probably my favorite rushing metric of all of them.
And yeah, I mean he's just ahead of Aaron Jones like he's been
good. He's been pretty good and most
hurts been. Like he hasn't been terrible.
Edmonds has been terrible in this, but most Dirt has been
kind of like below. The average so I could see him
taking the backfield. I think about what do you guys
think is the better pass catcher between most certain Jeff
Wilson? Probably most or yeah, he was
supposed to pass catcher when they were in the backfield
together and see if it's. Yeah.
He did some stuff out of the back field and Wilson wasn't
really doing much. Maybe that's how it shakes out.
Maybe it's like 60% of snaps well soon, most of mixing it on
passing Downs. Yeah, I do think I do think it's
interesting and it's, I don't think you can say with Supreme
confidence that this is just blast off for he moster, I do
agree with that. It's hard to know how much of it
was, you know, and being impressed with most or or just
not liking what they've seen from Edmunds.
It'll be really, I think it's bad for moster has to be meaner.
Yeah yeah for sure is backup. Just went from a guy who's
playing terrible and basically getting benched to a guy that is
playing well and knows the system, right?
I mean it's definitely a net negative, most of it's been
Good. But I mean he hasn't been like
amazing. It's been good.
No no he's yeah pretty low. And the Russians are expected
for attempt metric. They never put the number.
See if like literally count, but it looks like he's looks like
he's around like 36 or something and it Wilson's ninth and I
guess like they're haven't even been a ton of receptions to go
around in that offense to running backs because the way
that they're doing that offense with two, we getting the ball
out so quick to Tyreke and waddle it just doesn't seem like
you're getting like the check Downs that a lot of offenses,
have its bills, Ian Wright and it's like they're doing more
efficient stuff so they never having to utilize the running
back like I mean, maybe this week, they will, they'll lean on
the run a little bit more, but they're just match up base but
like I'd like to, you know, Jeff Wilson problem, be up to speed
this week. So this might be kind of your,
like, your last like, hurrah with moster.
Although I guess we, where we at, we kind of thought that with
Michael Carter and James Robinson stuff to the last
hurrah and then it's like it's James Robinson.
Maybe never going to amount to anything with the Jets this
year. I mean is that either of them,
get them out anything right now. I had a real in my password.
Today, for some reason, I'm getting the little like, dude,
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if I could maybe get you and Sylvia together as a client
server, tagged the entire ETR disk.
By you might have a quick answer where the hell is up?
And this notifications, this is entirely unrelated to your
inability to solve a Issue. But on our 10K team, who did you
want to keep and who did you want to cut?
Could you just could you just remind me message sound was it?
Will are Jones, notification sounds.
And was it Sky more that you wanted to come?
I don't think I can multitask through this and talk about Sky.
That's why I was, that's what I was making it part of the show
because there's no way I was multitasking through that.
Yeah, no. I, it's a 12-team standalone
league and I think I know. I'm just calling you a boomer.
Yeah, calling you Boomers you can't figure out this court.
I will say been Silva. I mean Ben and Silva are it
co-managing and ffp. See Main Event League this year?
I'm starting to think silver might be rubbing off on you
been? I mean it's possible the the
text messages have been a blast that team is crushing by the way
like it is absolutely 10K. Ospreys Hall.
Oh you know, now you're not 27 over.
All right. Now it's a Nick Chubb team you
said right Nick third Around Nick Chubb sub-team Andrews.
Lamar stack worm. Andre, that's what is very into
Tyler Lockett at Price which was a nice ad, we got waddle and get
Wilson. You know, shit.
That is so nice. T my, it's a fun.
Nice, it's a rough one team that's real nice.
Do you know what? Again, one thing that I've
noticed too and it happened obviously with my best ball
teams last year, the team I drafted with Eric, we've had the
dynamic happen with crack rock. A couple years ago, the idea of
like coming together to do drafts when you see things
ideologically different and I think you can make a counter
argument. Sometimes you water down your
process and it doesn't work. But sometimes it does really
come together and again a we're like the three of us are never
drafting Nick Chubb, but you get together with Scylla and draft
Nick Chubb on a team where you meet in the middle on like he's
a good value here. Do you do build really
interesting teams that way? And it's really, there's no way
I could even argue like talk him off that.
I remember the great. He's a Great Value, 310 310.
And this team also slammed, by the way, this is a Lambie Andrew
start. Then chop them the rest of that
team. So like it like it is I want it
feeling. I wonder if part of the magic of
it is that you have to think of like a little bit more
objectively like Nick Chubb in the third round is was like an
objectively good value. I feel like we all agreed on
that but we didn't but he wasn't a fun click for us so it's more
like someone's like I love Nick Chubb here and you're like,
whoa, It seems like this will make you happy and I don't have
a problem with it. Yeah, the problem is for us,
this year, when we tried to be objective, it resulted in an
Ozzy Harris, share. And that's true and things like
that. And so I think in that spot were
probably thinking like, yeah, I'm looking at the board right
now, right after Trump, Allen Robinson, moving and taking
about Mike Williams, gave Davis almond rosti Brown and then we
took water lat. 02, we leave that pocket with two of those
receivers. We probably got Mike Williams
waddle or vice versa, or whatever.
Because we're like, we want to get a few more shares of Mike
Williams and waddle and stuff, which is, you know, it's not
that we know. Yeah, it was a bad pick.
I mean, that's something I know on stealing.
But, you know, Shawn, I talked about the once.
He was down the late 3rd, like you can certainly justify taking
the chubby this point, as I could Talent base pick.
I mean, he's a really good football player.
But it's just not a pic that, you know, you're right.
I wouldn't have pulled the trigger on but I wasn't going to
stop. Silver know, I would have been
me. I would have been easily talked
into waddle, but it's like a situation, you know?
It's a lot of would be a good pick their to obviously.
Yeah, but yeah, it's just harder to get to chub when we're all
like, we'd prefer waddle. We probably should do job, but
your laughter. Everyone wants to know how our
JJ Henry team is doing with Davis.
It honest. Ali should be doing so much
better. That teeb has on Rusty, Brown,
just in Jefferson. If you guys want to know how
it's going, we're losing to Tyler's team that auto drafted.
That's that's how that team because I keep thinking I'm
gonna Rob zeros if you did comment 10's.
Yeah, it's the second year in the row where we've had just
extremely talented players on the team.
I should be at the Jonathan Taylor, Davante Adams, Eli
Mitchell with Davis. I still think you could just rip
off some massive scores but definitely underperforming.
Right now. Yeah, that sucks.
I mean that's the Lance team Waller.
Got hurt role of his Drake wanted and trailin Burke's like
our whole stretch. Round forward around, eight was
Waller. Almond Rusty Brown, good weeks,
but also these like we're not getting paid off.
Like we should Drake London Trail and trailing perks for
those five ticks. Like we can we that I mean
Darren Waller might be like as close as we have to like a
league killer this year like those Derek and like Titan
sucks. I get it but he somehow finds a
way to kill us. Yeah, I know Titan.
So bad, Titan gets worse every year and then it's also like the
answer every year. Every fucking year is this
dress. Travis Kelce, that was the
answer and it's like now he's always too old as your older.
It's not the answer this year. Yeah, I mean and we knew that
tight end was so weak. That was a big part of the
excitement for pits and like how the Titans could differentiate.
But I mean yeah we should have got more exposure to Kelsey more
than Andrews. Yeah.
What is Elsa was so much cheaper than last year Gretch.
Let's get a state of the pits Union.
After his big game on Sunday, where are we at here?
We're exactly where we were. That's right.
Yeah, I mean, he's the exact same guy.
He was before and all 80 of us yards.
All of his catches came by there like 17th or 18th pass attempt,
which is like a really semantical point but like they
ended up throwing twin that's usually when they're done.
Yeah. That's usually when they're
done, right? They ended up throwing 28 passes
in this game. And I think the easy thing to
look at the Box. 120, hey, through a little bit more in
this game. They threw five passes in
overtime. They weren't actually,
particularly good at throwing late.
Those extra ones that they added when it got a little frantic at
the end there with Carolina. That game should have gone to
overtime of Carolina, makes that extra point that extended one,
because the DJ more penalty, all that stuff, but they added five
extra, you know, attempts in overtime piston ketchup at like
he was a part of the flow of the game plan early, he caught, All
of his passes. Early enough is last catch, was
in the fourth quarter and it was I think they're 17th or 18th
pass attempt. Like he is the same thing we
were talking about how the turbo Sprout run were still strong,
right? Even though he's not running a
ton of routes, he can still Splash a little bit.
He has the high a tot. He hits a 33 yard catch these
exact saying it's still like he could go back to going to
catches from 9 yards next week if they throw 15 passes again,
right? Like it's and we knew Atlanta
couldn't throw 13 14 passes like they did the two prior games
every game. Mmmmm.
Yeah, and this is the type of game that does caught like they
were only at like 17 or 18 in the fourth quarter, but they end
up going to OT, they push up to 28.
You need for that type of game that happens.
They were just they were they were extremely run-heavy last
week. I think that - 13 % p rho e or
something. They just, they ran a lot more
plays than usual. Think they were in seven more
plays than their, their average, something like that.
And yeah, so it's like just this week, please just this past
week. Yeah.
Well, thanks Kevin. He's over there team average
because of the because of the OT problem, because the OT.
Yeah, but my point is it's like they're mix was was the same.
They're still extremely run to be like, you know, like a - 7 %
pure. Oh, he's like very run-heavy.
They were like double that. So there's still a great.
Is it is nice to see though, for his bad.
Is that passing offense is like the different outs.
That Kyle pits gives you like we finally saw some of the Yards
after catch this week. You know, we've seen him get
used in the Red Zone. We know he can catch balls down
field, And now we finally got to see him in the open field.
It's like the fact that he's succeeding in this environment
is still a miracle. Yeah, something I would say
that, I mean I'm not going to take any Victory Laps on pits
but was sort of a minor Point early on.
When London got the huge Target shares early.
I was arguing at points that Pits might still be like the one
to London's to write. We had that very specific
discussion. You remember that pattern?
Remember you? You were kind of in on that as
well. We talked through that a little
bit. And I think if you look at just
like the last four or five weeks, I haven't actually pulled
this, but that's what you find is that that Pitts has been the
guy that's been more of a focal point over the steps.
I wrote that in the walk through this week.
So I said over the last two weeks, Pitts has arguably taken
over at than one option in that span London is seen for Targets
on First Street. Throws Pizza, seen nine.
Yeah, so you know it's like what plays are they calling, right?
If he's the first read, I don't know.
It's like kind of an indication which is like a good and a bad
do. It's like a good about it.
The bad part of it is again Atlanta.
Softens hasn't changed. They've just gained plan to
throw to the pits a little bit more.
That's right. Just like a little kid.
London has been completely dead over this period so if they just
go and we don't know what they're doing, like they, that
might have been very matchup based right there.
Calling specific place to attack the specific defense next week.
It could be London, you know, that is getting a little bit
more of that first read love. So it's all very fragile because
they don't call me. He fucking passing plates.
First of all, you got London, had a 35 35 percent or point
three, five targets per outrun hits was .28.
He was significantly ahead last four games pizzas at 30 or .30
and London's at a point to one. So it was London plus 7 in terms
of percentage points of targets earned per route and now it's
been Pets, Plus 9, you know, if flip from the first four games
to the other four again, That's what he asked, you.
Sorry? No, no, I was just gonna ask you
because I bet this this morning. What do you guys think?
Drake Drake London's, receiving yards.
Prop on Underdog is this week. What's the line do you know it?
Yeah, I bet it 28. I wish there were 35 is 39 and a
half most projection systems, have him at least 45 or higher.
I'm a sucker. I'm a glutton for a Punishment.
So I'm betting Drake, London, and Marcus Mariota overs again
here. Love it.
This week against the Chargers. This is about a batch of.
What is it? - they're not a run funnel, but
they're about to be there by the Falcon.
Yes, after this week. Like the Lions or something,
like they can't really stop anything so it's really up to
you and we know what the Falcons want to do.
What about TJ Hawkinson is this a yay, an A or Steady As She
Goes. That's an interesting one.
I didn't have a strong take. I feel like I don't know, I
think maybe a yay. I think it might be a yay.
Because the I'm interesting Brown is very good at what he
does. But what he does isn't helping
TJ Hawkinson, right? If you have a guy who gets open,
I think his eighth outs like 5.5.
I'm gonna run from you, get open quickly and in the middle of the
field, five yards, down field or whatever.
How does that help the tight end if you're just in Jefferson and
you're actually drawing defensive coverage, downfield
like That should probably open up the middle of feel a little
more for Hawkinson. So it's a similar situation.
He's going to be a clear to but well I guess feel might have
something to say about that but I think Dylan's a little do we
know that this is something I'd have no idea on but we know that
receivers changing teams. Sometimes need a little bit of
time to get up to speed. We also know that tight ends
take a little longer to develop in the NFL, which has been
described before as being that they have more responsibilities
in both the run in past games. So, they have more of the
Playbook to learn. Do we know if, what the data is
on tight ends, changing teams, I guess, my initial thought was
like, it's going to be tough for him to be an immediate impact on
a new team, just anecdotally. But I don't really even have any
anecdotes and I'm thinking of it's just like I don't have any
data that I found out. So I don't know.
Now that makes sense. Logically, I mean, and you could
also point to the fact that Earth Smith was running like 60%
of the routes and so Hawkinson because Titans like they just
don't draw targets that. Well, I mean, unless you're
Kelsey or Andrews, so like you need the route, you need to run
all the routes and like, if you're at six, I mean, if you're
into wide receiver and you were 60% the route, so you wouldn't
really be fantasy relevant. So it's just it's tough.
Because you need them to commit to Hawkinson away.
They didn't ever did to Smith which I think they probably will
like eventually because he's better.
But you know let's say for like the next three or four weeks I
think he could easily be at like a fifty percent.
It could be no a fan, right? He could be like know if Aunt
and Johnny months will dis Lis and it's just a touchdown bet
every week. It seems like a neutral move at
worse. And if you have a team that's
actually committed to featuring him more, which the lines never
seem to be. I mean, they had the what you
had, the one blip, Up game against the Seahawks with their
hands were tied when they were down everybody and he had the
talent to take advantage of that opportunity, but if the Vikings
like really want him and went out and got him, I mean to me
that's always an encouraging sign.
Same thing with the Jeff Wilson stuff, like a team is showing
intent when they go and get these guys that has very good
thing and I think that's true part of your point there.
And I think it's a great one is sort of, I mean, I don't know
that this is a great point, but part of your point is, well,
what are we thinking of Hawkinson?
What are we thinking? He is because you just look at
those points per game, he's the Titan 3.
And if yard or tighten for, if we look at as ATP, he was
expected to be a top six tight end.
But like you just described in the way that I would describe
it, which is pretty disappointing all year, right?
He is the one thirty eight point game and everything else has
been pretty crappy. If we're comparing it to the non
blow up games and everything, he's done this year, other than
that one game. Then I agree with you that
there's probably upside because it seems like he's wasn't going
to get there with the Lions other than that, you know, one
explosion. Yeah I guess the thing the
lines, you know they might get the number one pick so we could
have been pretty excited next year.
Now I'm starting to think Dynasty stuff but it's like next
year maybe we would have gotten excited about this offense.
A little more than we will with the Vikings but the Vikings they
traded form with his fifth year option already picked up so
they're on the hook for nine point four million dollars next
year and then presumably he's going to want a contract
extension. So and you trade Enough for him
that you probably are going to give them.
So it to your point on intent Pete.
Like it's a it's a decent commitment.
Like it's, you know, they're going to have to pay this guy
up. We're going to have our guys
from ship Chase. Yacht Club joining us here in a
little bit as far as week 9 waiver stuff going through.
I would say an above-average waiver wire, weak relative to
some of the other weeks. We've had Jeff Wilson available
in a lot of leagues, Deon Jackson.
Jackson with, you know, stuff. Swirling with JT any.
Any other interesting names for you guys this week.
I was available in one of the League's.
That's all really? Yeah, that sounds was available
in one of our leeks. Yep.
Robbins is out there. There's definitely still some
interesting things that are, you know, we've talked over the last
couple weeks at Guys are getting cut, right?
Like a larger more was getting cut.
I don't see him available in any league but the time in but what
would you do with him man? Probably throw it back.
At this point I'm he have anyone at it, you might be a cut right
now to try some more Elijah. Oh yeah.
That's I mean that is the hard part was some of these, you
know, you look at guys in Gretch, I know you brought this
up in one of our chats and I was feeling the same way like, you
know, obviously you want to see the Black Box.
What is Chase? Claypool.
Look like on the bears, but Um of these guys like Elijah more,
it's just there. Teetering on roster.
Clogger territory where you're like?
When are you ever going to feel comfortable?
Starting them. We take a long stroke that to
Chuck them back as well. You might get one star out of
Elijah more for the rest because you're going to need his routes
to go back up, which might take like two or three weeks.
Then you're gonna need him to actually get targeted.
Pretty well. Like, I don't know, man, could
be five weeks from now but you're like, I think we're
thinking feel good. Let's start it again.
You know. Going to get 26 points.
This I got a couple tags. Oh yeah, go ahead.
I was just gonna hit this one real quick because it is the
game tomorrow. Matt Stone asking about Brevin.
Jordan in Houston tight end. So you have Nico Collins out.
We have Brandon Cooks. What looks to appear to be quiet
quitting? He's questionable with a slash
personal reasons. I think he's just pit like he
might just not play tomorrow but if you just might they have not
fuck it as someone who played Chris Moore in DFS last week and
took that Bagel. I'm not necessarily running to
the wide receiver well there, but I guess the Titans could be
vaguely interesting. Well, it's tough.
The targets are going to be available last week.
Brevin, Jordan Ryan. 46% a route on 42% of the drawbacks.
Both OJ Howard and Jordan Aikens were at 34%.
Wait, Aikens is with Houston right now, right?
Or am I looking at this? I think that's right.
Yeah, General Brown is the guy that left and fair, right?
Okay. And then you have the week
before. Brian Jordan was only at 8% and
an Aikens was at 48 and led the team coming out of the pie.
It looks like sort of like the Seattle situation.
They're using these multiple tight ends.
And last week when they had Collins out as well, they just
jump Phillip Dorsett up to an 89% route rate.
And I mean I'm just going to you and Chris Moore.
You mentioned both those guys score touchdowns and made a
little comment and soon. Signals like those guys were
wide receiver fours in 2019. They should be out of the league
at this point but that's where we're at with the Texans but
they're going to run out wide receiver force from 2019 and
like That's who's going to run the routes and catch the passes,
unfortunately. Yeah, yeah.
I'm with you. I don't.
And they've done this tightened by committee thing for a while,
you know. And I know it's, it's like, a
new head coach to your, but it's the same offensive coordinator,
right? Peppa Hamilton was their last
year's. They will see.
You think so? Yeah Greg sorry I didn't when I
brought up the Texans tight end she said they're a couple
interesting other names. Yeah.
Well I said it had a couple takes one was Chase Claypool.
We have on one of our teams and I was saying I feel like he's
like cuttable which doesn't really jive with the fact that
he just got traded for a second round pick and now becomes like
the potential number one. But is he that much better than
Darnell Mooney and Darnell Mooney might be countable and
now you have two of them and that might make them throw a
little more, but they don't protect feels particularly well.
I think they're gonna continue to be incredibly run-heavy team,
like they're even more unhappy than the Falcons, like Claypool
moves up the totem pole by a lot.
Bye. You know, being like forth in
Pittsburgh and first in Chicago. But Pittsburgh in Pickens, three
full games has averaged over 50. Drop backs and now you're going
to a team that's going to average like 22 drawbacks, like
it's a massive shift and I was just looking too.
If you're kind of trying to think the long game, their
playoff schedule is weeks 15 and 16 are brutal.
They play the Eagles and then the bills, they do get the lions
in week 17, which is obviously very juicy butt, man.
Those bells could be a disaster for that that passing game.
Here's the. So this is what I have on
claypole this week in the walkthrough.
He's been double-teamed on 29% of his routes.
If you look at receivers of 200 plus routes run, he Trails.
Only DK Metcalf. Cooper cup CD lamb Davante Adams
and Jamar Chase weird. So like yeah, isn't that weird?
Yeah, so like he is John, he's drawing coverage, so it makes me
feel like one maybe he's better than we realize from a fantasy
perspective. Right?
The defense is like thinks he's Dangerous.
And then to let our Darnell Mooney has not been drawing a
lot of double teams 15% rate for him which is pretty low.
So it makes me feel like one you know again maybe claypool's like
better than Mooney like may be significantly better than
Mooney. Maybe that won't necessarily
translate to a ton of fantasy production.
Of all he's doing is drawing coverage but maybe it's good for
Mooney if he draws coverage, maybe Muniz open more now or
maybe. Yeah.
Maybe this team is like we think this guy's a Potential star
we're going to build around. So I would definitely like to.
I would wait and see, I would see how this like are they gonna
throw enough? Because it sounds like the
Falcons don't have to support one guy.
Yeah, if it funnels to one guy think maybe, maybe they could
because they throw a little more, right?
They feel more confident. And if it's funneling to one guy
so I would, I would, I love these questions.
Like does it help bet? I'd be proud.
Like that. Could anything hurt combat?
Probably, like just more vertical threats?
Maybe, I don't know you, who's that?
I've never heard of this organization has been looking at
Byron Pringle and Vilas Jones. Chase Cliff was gonna look like
fucking Calvin Johnson to little this saw, they're just gonna
throw up, throws, a good deep. Well, he's gonna have some long
touchdowns. He's gonna make some Beast plays
just like, I guess I don't want to cut him.
It's just like, when are you going to want to start hates
right? I think they did want to better
my experience and not there. They can equip themselves to be
like no we gave Justin Fields weapons.
Like, you guys realize how good this is gonna be for Justin
field Scramble game? This is gonna be a leak true, I
won't even chase Claypool 30 yards from the line of
scrimmage. Yes, that's right.
Do you guys have any Deon Jackson takes?
I think I'm a little less bullish than you.
I did we make that change Bend, you are, we had one League.
I think where we have both Jeff Wilson and Deon Jackson.
I don't these guys made a good case.
Peed in the boat guy, the color, you got sold.
You sold the I'm like going to agree with the the last person
who speaks on this. I think they're pretty close.
I mean, my take on Deon Jackson is just one.
He might get a spot start this week, if they keep JT out.
I mean, he re-aggravated the same Ankle injury, that caused
him to miss two games earlier this season, he's your franchise
Runner, he's your best player. You're already looking to next
year when you make the switch from Ryan to ehlinger, like to
me, this has all kinds of JT, multi-week absence, JT potential
shutdown, written all over it and it's just like, Heinz is
gone. Deon Jackson caught a shit ton
of balls and you guys can get into the more the advanced stuff
there. But to me this is like a, keep
it simple. Stupid.
Like he he served as a Bell cow. In those games both Hines and
j-tier out. And now we could have that same
situation play out again. I think Their coaching staff
their front office is concerned for their jobs.
I don't think they're necessarily going to pack it up
for this year. They are three, four and one, I
think the quarterback change was actually more of like a
desperation type thing to compete.
Now, to be honest, I do, I'm concerned about JT and I do
think there's some some extent, you know, some some possible
concern that he misses time and I agree with you that Jackson's
a better start this week than Jeff Wilson, but I guess I'm I'm
not as concerned that they're going to shut Taylor down
especially because the AFC South isn't good, the Titans are at
are two games ahead of them right now and have the
tiebreaker, but the Titans are going to run away with this
division. That's not a very good team.
They've been winning games against Bad teams.
They're going to stay close enough, that they're going to
want to continue to compete. Is my take and then Pat brought
up like, Matt Ryan was the quarterback.
John Jackson was getting all those catches like that's that's
yeah, really. Yeah, the ehlinger stuff.
I mean, they did go pretty run-heavy.
I was I was disappointed with how run-heavy they went.
They also and maybe this helps Deon Jackson, potentially they,
they ran a lot more heavy Personnel.
They were they were like ten percent higher in terms of their
their combined use of a too-tight.
And two running backs sets so over their season average.
So That's like that was kind of disappointed because I was
hoping for like, out Pierre stuff and he wasn't, he didn't
run all that many routes. Like I think it was around like
70% because he was kind of splitting time with Campbell but
I don't know, maybe that maybe the heavy stuff actually is good
for Deon Jackson. If it, if it ends up being him,
the other point you made that I liked that was that they can't
even get the Run game going with Jonathan Taylor.
Like, yeah, and Deon Jackson has averaged three point.
Three yards per carry so far, he's caught all 14 of his
targets. And in his two games where he's
gotten good run, he's caught a lot of balls.
But like you're kind of just looking at a cat.
It's probably not going to run very efficiently on a bad
offense. If he's starting, it's not, it's
still worth playing. It's 20 20 to 50 football,
right? Like we would still start him
for sure if Taylor was out. Yeah, the other thing thing at
three like I'm thinking back to a few weeks ago with you know
the mic bun debates to first of all, we're running out of weeks
in the season. You know, it's week eight before
the playoffs are starting. You could potentially get a spot
start and there's room for more and you could argue that he's
going to have far. Less competition than even Mike
Boone did when he took over for the Broncos.
So to me it's just like you know, when you're going to spend
your bullets in the chamber like we're running out of time.
I'm with you on that. I guess it for me is just like
Wilson versus Jackson. I think it's an interesting
debate but if you only have one of them go get him.
Okay. Right.
The one? Yeah, yeah.
The other Tech I was going to throw out at you guys.
I was making this in one of our chats earlier his terrorist
Marshall. I think. we as the sort of
prospect lovers have a tendency because we are looking at a lot
of the data in the larger Trends to maybe move off, guys. quicker
than The community. We're like I think like some
other Boomers might be like, oh yeah, Terrace Marshall.
That guy. People were talking about him
and Dynasty last year, like, yeah, I got a bad first year,
but I'll give him a shot. And we're sitting there going
guys, who've had as bad of a first season as terrorists.
Marshall never come back and he's just done.
So like we've completely written him off, but last year was
considered one of the top prospects in the class.
For a lot of people pre-draft was the number two.
You wide receiver in the class behind the Lynch case.
I had a horrible efficiency here, but if you look at, I'm
not sure he was real. I think most people have had
like waddle above them. I don't think.
I think he was, he was kind of in that mix with like Elijah
more Rondell more date for moms. Yeah.
I think I remember I mean I'm not I'm not trying to call his
house, a negative thing because JJ is the man, but I remember
judges actor recently had a number two was one.
There was a few that really liked him.
That was was pre-draft if I'm not mistaken, and if I'm wrong,
for some reason, you're listening this JJ, my apologies,
but But I know there were there were people that were very high
on Marshall and rightfully so it's like this block my project.
Yeah, I like them too. He had a really, really poor
efficiency year in his rookie year.
He didn't want a ton of routes, like, 200, something like a
decent amount. That's not great.
Either that he didn't go on the field on a bad team.
But the thing that I would argue is you look at it, the after the
target efficiency is yards were targets, touchdown, right, stuff
like that. Everyone in Carolina's offense
last year was horrible. Right?
Robby Anderson was historically bad.
We want to plan every week in DFS because he couldn't stay as
inefficient. Remember he was getting cheaper
and cheaper and everyone was just Martin killing Robbie
Anderson. DJ more had like a seven point
wasn't true. Millie maker winners.
Wasn't he? Yeah, probably, because a couple
weeks, we would not be Jay Mohr. Was that a 7.1 yards for Target?
I think it was. This is one of the things I used
to argue in favor of more this offseason because every other
year of his career, he was at nine point six, eight point
seven 10.1. I mean he's like a nine-plus
type yards per Target, true Talent guy who's down at 7:00.
Everyone else in the French Tommy, tremble.
Ran their most routes or was targeted the most of their tight
ends. He is that like a five yards per
Target? They were all horrible.
I think they do like 12, total. Past touchdowns for the whole
season or 14. It's an egregious lie, low
number. I don't think we talked enough
about this, but Caroline in 2021 was like the worst pass offenses
in the past offense, in the NFL for like a number of your, 14
total past touchdowns, so you consider that.
And then also you consider that Marshals actually been efficient
so far this year is yards. Per Target is actually above
average right now. He hasn't run a lot of routes.
It's a very small sample but 95 and 100 percent of the top of
the routes. The last two weeks, since Robbie
Anderson got traded, he's playing a ton and he was a bra.
But that we like is also 21 years old.
Last year really young Prospect just turned 22 in June.
I mean, he'd just turned 21 and Jimmy's one of those like real
young 21 year, olds last year when he had the really bad
rookie year. I don't think this dude is
definitely terrible. It could have been the situation
that influence them and and he's playing a ton.
So you get this like and he's been pretty good.
The last couple weeks you get this you know e still is not on
the radar antenna. Can probably add them fairly
cheap I think and you get this we're going to find Out more
because he's got to play the next couple of weeks more and
more and more. If PJ Walker keeps playing well,
witch Pete, you made a great or powder, one of you made a point
that he might turn into it. You know, a Dudley using a turn
into a pumpkin again. Yeah, uses you.
But you really can't like the Falcons are the matchup.
Like, if you want to look like a competent, info quarterback,
play the Falcons. You know, I think so look.
If you looks good against the Bangles then and they're not
like an elite defense or anything, but I'll be a lot more
sway, but you're my mean to your point.
Maybe it's too late. Maybe Marshalls getting picked
up this week and you gotta write, we got it in bondage
cheaply to some, to some bids, right?
Yeah, we have and maybe he'll go for 100 and some leagues.
I've seen some other people wanting to fit on him and I
gotta turn it back out. You got to be able to turn them
back out, right? Yeah, but I mean he said an
eight point seven yards, per Target right now last couple
weeks has ran, a lot of us, didn't do a lot week.
Seven week 8, Drew nine targets had 87 yards.
Only four catches It I mean there's a little bit of Life
there. I think it's worth grabbing him
knowing he's going to play a lot of these next couple weeks and
seeing if that progresses because there's some potential
that he was just a late bloomer. He was super young and is
actually good. Like there was prospects just
it's just that he was chance. Now can I interest you in a guy
who was also in a terrible situation last year and
currently has six point eight, nine yards, per hour, his
teammate love this kitchen all roll the clip Clapping break.
Frankie. How we doing tonight, guys?
Good. How you guys doing good?
Hey guys, look at this bucket hat.
Look at Frank Iraq. This is a.
Did you special request that Frank?
I can't remember. Was that you?
Yeah. It was during on the summer pool
season and you didn't have one up there and and I have one I
always wear when I'm in the pool and mine was kind of breaking
tearing apart. So I'm like I'll see if you guys
can whip one up. So you are able to what I want.
I think I sold. What other one of them that not
not hot cakes in the store although doing is if you like It
a ship chasing Shield fat head so you can take the divorcee
over your shoulder down. Yeah, definitely change it out
if you get something good for me.
So I'm open, I'll see what we could do.
I'll see what we could do. Lou how we doing tonight?
Good, I think a Pete Fathead would probably sell to some
people out. Scratch your back.
You probably won't dude. Our new house like since like
really early on and they were walking through her kind of
giving him a tour and I had, my, my Top Shot painting of the
said, like, it was like that moment where they were, like,
kind of looking at it and looking at me and we just kind
of like all agreed not to talk about it, or explain what that
was. So yeah, I don't know if we need
overs at Fatheads. Warrants a k serum.
You're broadcasting from a cabin in Canada.
If I if I recall correctly. Yeah, my home.
I live in a log cabin. If we cannabis, oh, So it's
good. It's good.
Winter doesn't exist here. I grew up on the Prairies where
Winter is like minus 20 minus 30 Celsius, which is really, really
freaking cold. So, I moved to the West Coast,
not too far, north the Gretsch. It's much nicer.
There you go. Little little love pack nor meet
up. I think that's what we need to
get in the works here. Um, let's see.
So out. So we drafted a slow Main Event
team with this crew. When did we kick it off?
The early August for this one. That was really good lie.
It's a lie. Okay.
We're like the second one. You guys did, I think.
So it was like, before you guys knew that the rooms were
sharper, so we learn. Yeah, I was told, was this the
one that was like, incredibly difficult the whole way through?
Yeah, we all we all want to Digs at night at 11, he promised me,
we'd get them and then we did. Did and then sounds like you had
Matt go right Frankie. Yeah, it went downhill from
there, so, I think. Yeah, I will admit digs would
have been better than Davante Adams there.
For sure. That would have been nice, but I
think you're thinking of shot Chase to the one we did on live
on stream and yeah, yeah, so if you're watching Berkeley back
back back, then, Barkley was going a lot later, but that
hurts to look at in hindsight with the waist, which has been
banged up. Yeah, so we are a AJ Brown to
come to us to but we have will kill.
So that's right. Brown was going so late at this
point and we almost got him. Yeah rest in peace to the team
that started Derrick Henry Nagi Harris cam Akers although I'll
probably go look at their record and they're probably in like
second place sometime. So this this was the dragon.
I'm going to check now. Three here, right in the mix.
For the audio listeners are draft.
We started Davante. Adams, DeAndre Swift, George
kittel, Jalen waddle Juju. Elijah, more wolf, Kyler,
Murray, Sky more Ramon Ray. Ron Dale, Etc.
How are we, how we feeling about this Frankie became, isn't it?
Right off the entire draft board.
I got in trouble. Okay, so I was trying to cut
myself off. Frankie, are you still tilting
this team? Are you happy with our 5 and 3
record? Oh, I'm definitely happy with
our 5 and 3 record. I mean, we're like middle of the
pack and points. There is a few pigs.
We probably could have done a little bit differently.
When we were, we had the choice of Kyler verse hurts and we took
Kyler and then the two wide receivers went directly after
that. And we got stuck with Sky more,
and I'd much rather have IU or even Kirk and then maybe if He
would have taken Kyla. We could have got hurts instead
but there was no world in which we were taking Kirk over, Skype
more. So I guess I you mind taking my
uke. I think you did want Ru Ru Kurtz
is the possibility. I recall a unique being.
Yeah, snipe. It does go to show how thin the
margins are too. Like you said, if we go there
and then Kyler goes at to the team on the turn and then we
were for sure taking her to Kyler's off the board there.
I mean look at look in the fifth we could have got Amon-Ra went
one, pick bright World gave David give me some more Davis
was a 311 or like a 309 by the end of draft season.
He was there. The fifth like Russell gauge.
Went one pick after Elijah more. This looks like a fossil from
another time. Like what what what is this
draft? Um, yeah, so let's see, let's
take a look at our team. Our bids did process, you can
see our bids here because I haven't refreshed yet.
We did a 220 bid on Deon Jackson when after a defense some Titan
dust balls here. I mean I do feel like this team
it really does kind of. I mean Swift is like are big You
know, kind of Swing player right on this team.
Like I feel I guess you could say Davante.
Adams to do. We do we have faith.
He's going to get get things going.
I think with this team, it blows me away that like there were
some clear mrs. Like this team feels like a
grind for me, that it's five and three think we're middle of the
pack, but I think, like, 50 points out of out of the second
points, playoff spot and stuff, but it just feels like every
week. We're just out of grinding, by
with this, there aren't Waddles kind of a hit Ramon.
Dre obviously is paid off. But this is a whole bunch of
guys that like kind of performed at or below ATP or just, like,
we're total with with Elijah. We're just were just banging it
out. So I kind of, I kind of dig it.
It's like a gritty team and I think there are guys that, if
they like, they can close strong.
Like if Swift can get healthy, or if Devonte can get sorted.
Like the fact that we've gotten where we are without any of
these guys really going off is kind of hardening.
I'm trying to be optimistic. I would also note that we do
have Greg dosage on this team, we do so we're good.
LG R worked out for us when we started him.
We got to play Shakir one week, like we've had a couple of spots
art stuff, worked out too. If you go back to our draft
board I'm looking at in a different window now and the way
that you just described that Lawrence, it gets back to look
at the receiver depth. We go swifting Kettle, and two,
and three. And then we take Kyle and Seven,
we take Stevenson and nine, we take two more running backs in
that window. I know we were really excited
early on about those algae or tear and Davis price types.
Henderson is probably a guy that we got sniped on him.
I think we really wanted there. We were, like, we got to get a
few more of these running backs in this pocket, but as a result
of all those non receiver picks, you have atoms, you have the
waddle Juju Elijah pocket skies are five, rondelles are six and
whoever's not on the screen. There is our seven, I guess
that's Gallop but Elijah doesn't hit Sky, doesn't hit and you're
in a position. Mission where you have three
viable receivers, not a position that we're really comfortable,
being it, right? Do Jews.
Only like, like has he hit? He's had a couple weeks.
I would say he has a person's own, even after Julian, I heard
like the last two weeks, he's been really good, but that was a
rezoning. So I don't know like how many
teams play zone or not, but holy cow.
Frankie getting in the fucking weed defensive concepts for our,
I do one whole week so I know for sure that the some ADI said,
I think it was on the NBC show, I think with Pat.
So somebody said that, I don't remember who, but I think.
Yeah, I think I'll notice a the so funny home legs are like,
especially like. I feel like people will dive
deeper for a home in any other Lake.
Liam. Also mentions to you.
Also, don't have any of the players who got injured last
week, which a bunch of competing teams will Mike Williams briefs
all. I mean, we talked about a lot of
the different Dynamics for. You know, what was the optimal
draft strategy this year? And Healthy is obviously a huge
one and outside of like the Swift being banged up, you know,
Adams being a little in and out here.
I mean we've stayed very healthy in that regard.
It's so true the health because like, Bruce Hall was maybe the
best pick in fantasy football. Yeah.
And then he tears his ACL. So it's like it's tough because
that is exactly how you did it. You did what you were, what
we're all trying to do when you got priests all, it's just, it's
just pure shit luck that he then got hurt.
So yeah, there's nothing worse than And when you're right and
it doesn't pay off like yeah. That's right in like the fast
way. Yeah.
It's a worse thing in fantasy
just to like to know that you were right and then it still
didn't pass because halt the entire thesis on Hall was right?
The upset I will also say on our teams like we have some teams
with better Anchor, Arby's we have some teams with maybe a
little bit more depth, but this blend of like high upside with
Swift and reminder and then this 0 RB room.
I mean, you know, White Jerick McKinnon Pacheco algier.
That's about within reason about like my dream, kind of running
0r B room like heading down the stretch, like there's a lot of
upside in This Crew here. What if I told you that it was
Deon Jackson instead of zamir white because we did end up
getting them. Did we got him?
Okay. Yeah you're 20 the next closest
bid is 158 so it's good that we pumped it up there.
So we this was one of those teams where it's like I didn't
necessarily want to cut Zu, Mir white but we just like didn't
really have a lot of cuts to make.
I guess we could have faded the Donald para man.
Why did we had Donald porn? Because we need it.
We literally don't have a starter this week.
We can go try to get white again once we have our so we can start
this conversation. But I'm assuming it's because
Mike Williams What was on The Wire?
We're just hoping for a long catcher, a touchdown or
something and he's a he's a dude that has shown a feeling so he
might be a bagel but you could get a long touchdown and then
we're happy they used him like last year to, if I recall
correctly, when they were using a moves in Red Zone packages and
stuff too. He got a couple looks down
there. Let's see here.
Let's out. We do have some bids starting to
roll in. As you John Jackson, one for 600
in June. Unit.
Holy cow. Wow, what was our bid on him to
20 here and ours? Yeah, we've been around.
I think we put it most like 400 that one down.
Jeff Wilson actually So yeah. Deon Jackson.
What we're we? The 269 bit.
Here. This is our, our buddy jet going
hard after. Yeah, you were probably 269
here. Yep.
It seems like that seems like a bit.
We would make tears. Marshall came in for 14 there.
I mean anyone. Yeah, and tears.
Marshall 14 Khalifa, Raymond 21. Foster Moreau, 21 Zach, Wilson,
25 Casey defense 38, we just did a little small ball picked up
Julio Jones. Got ourselves kicker.
We got JK Dobbins in slow Bros. Let me pull that one up here.
Do this was the only League Dobbins was available in for us,
right? Yeah, this is the second bid
group. I think, here we go.
We did 258 next closest bid. 47, Deon Jackson goes 176.
So pretty wide range on Deon Jackson here. 176 to 600.
Isaiah distantly, we could have, because we had, we had Dobbins
in on another, but I think that 47 is our other big group.
So if we had flipped it, if we had prioritize Jackson, we might
have gotten them both which is a bummer.
Yeah, that's tough. That is tough.
Um let me see what else we got here on our stat chasing team
with Draco Sam. We got a nice bit here to 13
next 181 days a year. I was in that League that I mean
Draco is in its have you think this kid lives in the United
States and they still give him your eyes?
I mean, it's vaguely racist on us.
The second one was tears. Marshall 53.
And the runner-up was 52 is a close fit.
This one. 209 209 M. MX is 1111?
Yeah. Wide range.
We got Jeff Wilson in this league.
Has this shot Chaser? We got Jeff Wilson before 06.
Next bid, 250 one. Okay, Yeah, it was this.
Yeah. Jeff Wilson for 6251.
And then 251 for DeAndre we're both of those bids ours.
Which I'm guessing one or the are probably missing singing
star. Put I'll put both in at 251.
Figured you get one of them. Yep.
Caleb Huntley. 120 DeAndre Carter 82.
Definitely feel good about getting Jeff Wilson.
This is, of course, is our Austin Eckler Nagi Harris team,
but we needed a spot start this week to there's enough Wilson.
Somebody been 124 on Tara's. Marshall there got feet 126 M.
Yeah trailing Birds got dropped in one of our legs.
Let's go. Alright, so here's our Yacht
Club here, so, 220. Next bid, 158.
I feel like that's a nice bid there.
And then there was not a lot else going on here.
There wasn't a ton loose in this league.
This one was remember going over and there wasn't a ton of it
sounded like position player guys.
Like the Casey defense, I think that 13 dollar bid that was
next, highest was us just because they've got a nice run
out schedule-wise. So we did a bit more than we
normally would but this wasn't outside of Deon.
Jackson wasn't much on the wirelessly, you got, you got,
but Curt gone for 35, is the third highest bid at Casey's.
D going 421 is a fifth highest bit and then Got them to more
kickers. I mean yeah for the top six ads
are seven hands were kicker. To be honest, I'm surprised
because like you said, serum they're not being alive.
I hear you would think that that would inflate the Dianna accent
bid more and I think we thought we had like we had in my
thinking like what was it Franklin 89 or 90 bucks or
something like that and then just sort of at the end had that
conversation and what are we saving our Fab Four?
Yeah, I came in, you know, if we're set up that he's starting
this week for Russ. I don't think he probably works
his way and maybe of Swift's. It's well, we'll see, if maybe
they're over algae or something, but, but it was just one of
those things where we got, what we got four weeks left, we got a
win to get in. You want to, you want to give
yourself as many options and make pizza.
There were so many outs, but I was surprised that it didn't get
higher because there really wasn't anything on the wire
teams in our league have, put up three hundred dollars for like
latavius Murray and things like that.
So who would have thought that? There'd be a big bid Yeah, maybe
the money. Let's see here.
Who? What?
Other one have? I not put up?
Let me see. Do I got Buckeye Boomers here?
This was this is probably I think we talked about it with
them. The Buckeye Boomers is by far.
Our toughest waiver wire is far as like who's available, this is
how funny is this? You look at this big group and
thing this Kenyan Drake goes for 269.
Injustice Hill. Gets dropped for the Casey
defects that that's wild to me. By the same team or do different
things. No, no different teams but it
just kind of goes to show where team needs are and where that
converges with actually like Back Field value.
Well that was like I think it was them in this court.
I think somebody had put some food in you pee just saying you
know this is this is definitely a key week now.
And next week, our key times to watch the wires because teams
are getting to that desperate mode where they're just going to
make moves to win this week because like if they don't win
this week they're toast and So you might see Guys shake loose,
that have no business shaking loose, just because someone like
like our group, like the last two weeks, we've had these like
epic back and forth about who were going to cut.
Just get to a point where you kind of like all your guys.
You kind of see the pass, all your guys but you need to, you
know, you need to get Donald Harem because your other two
tight ends around by CC Guys shake loose.
And it's an interesting time. Especially if you're, you know,
if you're if you're a bit safer, if you're up there in points are
up there in record and you're kind of looking with one eye
towards The playoffs like you might be able to get some guys
that you have no business getting off The Wire.
Yeah, Buckeye Boomers in mentioned Josh mentioned the
Chuck Burks gain, well Hubbard, I'll cut you said that was a
thin options in waivers but we're going to have a few for
next week. They don't all show up here but
gained was there at the bottom. Yeah, let me get the like too
good. I mean that's weird that Burke's
got caught. He was going for like to 300
bucks two weeks ago and nothing's changed.
It's 2022, man. That's crazy.
One things changed patties. Like two weeks, closer to being
back. Yeah, exactly.
Is more feeling well Willis. I think they just don't expect
to throw maybe. Yeah.
But Tina's targets eventually, right?
Yeah, 10 is not paying his got to be back next week.
He seems close. Yeah, limited practice today.
I mean what can I say? Malik Wells experience.
One. Second half.
I don't think he's like, how do I pull this off?
Isn't it? Like they're does.
There's like a group of coaches that I don't recall it being
quite like this, where there's like the Bears, the Falcons the
Titans, they'll, they're like so much run hug heavier than the
rest of the league that the Saints are kind of getting
there. It's kind of crazy.
Like they're playing a different brand.
Yeah, I think it's also any, I think they realized that.
Well, maybe I'm getting too much credit, but I could see a
scenario where they realize that they're outgunned.
And so you just try to minimize the variance, right?
You try to minimize the number Over of drives.
There are you try to that way? One mistake carries you that
much further? I don't know.
Trying to maximize the variance
because there's oh, yeah, sorry, maximizes variance.
Yeah. Like minimize the actual impact
of skill like yeah, you got to, I think it was a couple weeks
ago on bananas, that Sean kind of went on a risk above that,
about just these teams that are slowing it down and then I think
you were referencing sort of the number of drives your beer over
a year. I think they're just trying to
shrink it down, right? That if they know if they know
that, that's one thing they can do.
And they know that fewer Jobs means that the skill will
necessarily carry the day. Every time it's not the worst
way to go about it, if you're, if you're matched skill, I agree
with that. But I also feel like it really
bothers me that we hear about like all these.
You know, analytics and like should these guys we go in for
it in this situation or that situation?
And like we spent all this time on that but like the media,
let's coaches off the hook completely for playing for
friendly losses. If you play for a friendly loss
no one gives you any crap like Collinsworth on.
With the the Packers who were literally playing to just lose
by 10 in that game in. Like we don't care.
If we win this game, we just don't want to get embarrassed.
He's like this, the right strategy, this is the right
strategy, got to do this, like, no, you don't, if you don't have
enough time to win this game, if you keep running the ball like
that, I mean Arthur Smith gave up against the Bangles, he
straight-up gave up. He wasn't running about bears,
gave up against the Packers, like, to me, that's like, I
don't know, that's like cowardly.
Like we should be giving these coaches shit for it and no one,
I mean, the mainstream media and stuff, no one really does that.
That video about it. We do but no one listens.
Yes. Frankie how is your first ffp?
See Main Event experience. Go you because you won the crown
for the most tilting through any draft experience has?
Is it, is it the good kind of tilt?
Or is it the like I can't sleep at night kind of tell?
No, it's definitely better now. I mean now we're climbing three,
but we're not, we're in the make of it.
Yeah, we're close. So we end the beginning.
Like you, like I said, it was early on.
So, you aren't sure yet that the rooms were turning a little bit,
so, you know, I was going in like, oh yeah, it's going to be
great. Ring it digs ring.
Get all the people we want and then just fucking changed and we
got nobody. And then if you just, he tilted
our other team to. And we started gigs Berkeley
Alan a mantra and he's tilting that team too.
Because we take a mantra instead of Abe Davis now, I mean, what
are we 7 wrong? So yeah, that seems working on
working out a lot better, but he's still So I acted so that I
don't know I guess I'm uh Frankie Frankie didn't tell Bob
in there but you did agree to co-manage with us.
Exactly. And you guys are you're giving
out the bids. Whoo.
Whoo, how much you're going. You got people watching and
Center leagues. I mean, is it tough scenes over
here? So it's a good.
Thanks and you're good. Stephanie.
We definitely be down to do a main event draft with you next
year. And I already miss draft season
draft season. Was was very fun.
I mean, there's so much hope. Every pic was gonna hit the
Elijah more look like a star for this team.
This team was not fin at wide receiver.
It was a lot more fun. Looking at these draft boards
before. Any of the games were played,
this is the next Evolution to graduate is like you start to
create a dummy rankings list. List, you know, I was listening
to, you know, there's the thing in sports betting now to where,
you know I know it's happened to ET are like the lines get shut
down so quickly when they put out a crop that.
And so there's this thing called a head fake where everyone will
collectively bet on the side you don't actually want to, then it
will move the market and then you get the bigger bet down on
the other side. Maybe what?
We need are some ship chasing head, fakes, maybe maybe Sky
more. Was the head fake all along and
we just did that outset to be fair.
We kind of shot on. Head fake because we dressed him
on all four teams. We gotta get there.
Yeah, we gotta get better out that picks.
Oh my goodness. Oh Frankie.
What about you? Sarah.
Oh, we missed on. Sky more.
Loo what about you is this your first FPC Main Event?
Yeah, this is the first time I've done it as F of T C.
And then I have other one with Frankie.
What's that one? Called the football guys
football guys. Yeah, We're in like 150th or
something in that so it's, we are, we're set up to at least
get through this round. I think we'd probably one more
win to clinch it. But we started real hot in that
League because it was just digs and Alan a monorail look every
week. So it's kind of cool in this
one. As Lawrence is saying earlier
like we've granted our way back into it so it's nice to be in it
in both. Do you guys have any leagues
that you're like, One in seven or two and six and what's sort
of The Vibes in those ones with Sean, the Sean's League, the
penta league is also pretty in pretty rough shape, right?
I mean, we got a couple why can show you like this Shawn team.
Like you look at it on paper and you would think it was like
leading by five. Yeah.
So it's a it lost priests also before the pre-salt had etn
Walker and briefs Hall on. I of course, Kyle pits but we
had Gerald Everett there. The wide receivers were weaker,
but we had Juan Del Robinson Jamar, Chase Brandon, I you
Chris Godwin like this team was was gonna be massive.
We're able to get two on waivers but lost Lance.
Yeah we lost a lot for Chase as well in the, you know, for for
now. But yeah, it's been it's been
clawing back after a very Santosh are has really bummed
about John Dodson as well. I was pretty excited about
Datsun, start, and then you haven't yet outside for a bunch
of weeks. Lou, Shara share your screen on
your guys's FBG team. Let's see this one, let's see,
this draft board. Oh, or Frankie.
Yeah, they don't. Thank me.
I have the FTC. Yeah, I quickly Frankie's
account so we might be making a multicam.
How do I share screen on booger presented at the bottom?
And then go to like tab? Go to share in here.
Let me help him troubleshoot real clinic and totally really
am inside. Okay, here we go.
All right, I think you're on our game right now.
Yep, I am. You know what?
I'm going to take the pressure off your men to take the screen
off, privacy of your own office here.
We chatter this. What I can eat after this.
FPC team wasn't too far after. It looks looks the same, the
same team. Frankie doesn't look very
familiar to me. Looks like one I come in and did
it. Did I put that took the wrong
one? Jesus Christ.
Is it a different tab? Yeah, I got to go back.
See how many, how many football guys?
Did you do this year? Because you do a bunch too,
right? Yeah, I did.
I want will. Yeah.
Last year was the first year doing it because I want a bunch
of played, a bunch of the 35 dollar leagues and got got
lucky. I think I think that was the
Chimera year and I was heavy on Chimera and then just like Nuke
finals on a bunch of leagues and got a bunch of free entries.
So I did six football guys. This year, I got one with
Frankie, I did one with with Evan essential and that I did
just for solo. I dig them.
They're a lot of fun. I just like the the process of
it. It's been cool to win this one
because like you get that perspective, more people.
It's been cool doing the Frankie to and with Evan even though
we're kind of in the same Community, we definitely have
different player takes in different different approaches
that way. I know that my Nevins team has
been so tilting. We went basically like punted QB
and tight end and it's been haunting us the whole time.
Like there was one there's one week where we had five of
444-stop 9 wide receivers Yeah. And like the team went one and
four and we couldn't get out of her own way and it's like three
tight ends always picking the wrong one, but we're starting to
come back. I think we're 50 points out.
Lost Chase switch switch sides. But like I think it was like it
was for those teams. Are you love it but it's not
it's not perform kind of like yours and Sean's your shown
team. I think we just look at it.
You're just like why is this not doing better?
This should be doing so much better but it's a blast.
I love these tournaments. I love the the way they set up.
I love, but there's not That's one thing that tilts me in other
leagues and when you know there's always like two or three
people they can get picked on and then yeah yeah.
What they do I tell myself like we collectively draft.
So aggressively, you know, Chasing You Chasing upside
chasing breakouts chasing late-season breakouts to have
the hammer when the money is on the line, like the flip side of
that is, you're going to have some teams burnout.
You're gonna have some teams whose upside isn't realize
before you can get them to the dance.
And that's kind of like the trade you make to ultimately
build some of those super teams that you do sneak through there.
So I do think that's just always, I see people come like,
you know, freaking out about their Advanced rates, invest
Ball, Mania 3. And I was like, what kind of
players where you drafting redrafting?
A lot of DeAndre Hopkins? Are you drafting a lot of
rookies? Like, where you like, what kind
of teams were you drafting? What was your goal when you're
doing that? I'm guessing your goal wasn't to
have a sweet Advance rate and week 8.
When I think the thing that's cool is like when you stick to
your guns with that aggressive build and this is Worked out for
me, in a couple teams that started really slow as if you're
still making those decisions and week, three week for week 5, if
an eye on upside and with an eye on being aggressive, like, I've
had teams where I'm starting to close 50, 60 point, gaps every
week, I'm by weeks, like that, that team I mentioned with Evan.
It's like, we can get him out of our own way.
I think we've been 160 or higher for the last three weeks like
160, 170, 180 the last three weeks.
And all of a sudden we went from like 10,000 points and 12th and
record. And now I think we're one win
out, 50 points out in. Looks like if you just stick to
those guns and you can you keep that?
It's not always going to pan out, but you give yourself away
better shot, when you feel dead, 34 weeks in, because of the fact
that you keep adding that Firepower, and you're going to
hit on some of them and you're going to, you're going to get
the right run out for sure. Um, this is a super fun team.
Do you guys still have Tony on the roster?
Yeah, we do. Yeah, nice.
Wait, will you guys so that's what is it?
12 digs Berkeley. Josh al-anam on Raju.
Jesus cried when Tony you guys stop Gibson.
Yeah, yeah. So we that was the day.
He got shot, we were up. And yeah, if we take home, we
like weren't sure if we should do it or not.
Are the day that Robinson. Great would rather sing got
shot. It was on that like Drake London
spot. It was right before like hours.
Before we're on the clock. Wow, at the other solar crying.
Now got both of them. I've got like 300 In fryer.
Fryer, Muth could come on real strong here with these no-good
and Tanya has been. Okay, we got tasin, we picked up
taste them for like a hundred bucks.
You got psyops by Davis and to yeah your family picture into
making a good picker. We didn't start on this either.
We started realizing that taste them Slappy pattern.
I'm not a tasting Slappy but for 100 bucks.
I mean, when we were going to spend like 300 on them or do I
just need to listen to be good this week he's covering for.
Friar, move and kid won more Oscars than I care to admit.
But, yeah, this is, this is a really fun fun team here.
Yeah. We're like six and one we're
first and points by 100. So we should at least make the
playoffs for sure. Hopefully, so nice.
And you already got that bills by now under your belt too,
right? Yeah.
What did you guys have a debate about Josh Allen that that stack
obviously had two picks at the turn there but we are
considering double town was pretty easy.
I think. Yeah.
Pretty pretty good. Have with the.
That was the round for a mine. Robbers.
Gabe Davis. Like I was.
And I, like, I said it, after Gabe played on that Thursday.
I was like, damn, we should have taken gave that'd be awesome to
have an exam on rotating. My point one in that week, it
was so close. And then, and then they, I'm on
Roz. Just been a spill it so.
Well Frankie you must have had best ball.
Double stack, brain going. When you my thought is it
wouldn't like do you guys have many double stacks on?
Your team's I just felt like it didn't make as much sense in
this manage version. We don't have a ton doing I'm
trying. Or Waller there, and that spot
to, we are debating with the Ted and premium, but I think at that
time, you guys were all pretty high on a mono.
So that's I think we ended up going with that.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's never a little early there.
I think, I mean, he definitely rose up the draft boards later
on. So this was a team we drafted
later. So, That's 12, I regret on.
Like I was, you know, with, with basketball stuff to I was pretty
smooth out with my exposures, but I was just like, never, I
think I have like, two Josh Allen shares and it's not like,
you want to make a habit of hammering quarterback in the
third, but sprinkling them in. In these, in these spots here,
too, because you do look at this thing, I guess it would have
been probably hard for me to pass on waddle here, just being
like, very honest with what the board was.
But having that tiebreaker there, It digs you know it frees
you up like you can do the thing.
And we talked about this a lot and draft season where it's like
we know we like could are Estonian, the seventh and let's
just forget what he's done so far, but it frees you up.
If you start to do to be to use of like, Hey, we're going to
take, you know, Kyler Marie there and then you can start to
do that of like oh Jalen waddle and Kyler verse Josh Allen and
could areas Tony like if you have those set up, I think it
makes a lot of sense to make those detours when you really
like a guy. I think this is a really great
example of, I mean, we know conceptually what Stacks are,
and what they do. But like when you make the bed
on digs, like this is why you guys took calculate made the bet
on dig. The bed on digs has hit more
like 2020 than it did in 2021. Where's his efficiency was was
down. He's been incredible in 2022.
If you really like there are outcomes where digs really hits
and if there's really hits on a lot of those outcomes, what like
we've seen you would want out In there, right?
Like it, it makes it like we I think sometimes when we talk
about Stacks, when we think about sex for like, I mean, we
don't have to stack this guy up this and that but Allen's the
kind of player where he's going to do enough other stuff.
If you're right on digs there in the first round, I mean, you
probably going to want out and probably gonna want that static.
I mean, it makes a lot of sense like this week.
We were going into Monday night, and we are down like 36 points
or something like that, and we had Alan and Diggs left.
And it just it also feels a lot nicer when you have Stack going
into the last game and they don't have anyone left to play.
Yeah you should do by 36 if they are sweaty, they're like, oh
yeah, yeah, digs are for sure. Pick after getting sniped on a
moment in our main event, we're like once it came to him or I
for, for sure, taking him. And then we were like sake, one,
single Swift again. Yeah, like, let's switch it up
to us to say Quan. So those two picks were pretty
easy. So book, that was thrilled.
In the fifth sixth, they get Juju Godwin like lasted us then
like when you see some of the wide receivers that went in the
fifth like Thomas Cook's. So you're saying if we took digs
in the main you guys want to talk to him to Alan instead of
George Kettle and our team would be awesome.
Yeah that's what you're telling us.
Totally. All right.
Too bad your brain to pick up calls itself waivers and with
Frankie and Lou. Do you guys have a co-manager
program? We could In the next season.
So yeah, very good stuff. I'm excited.
I'm excited for this team that we have.
I mean, if we can get DeAndre Swift in Adams, kind of
accessing the ceiling regularly, that we know they can hit it,
this team can definitely make some noise down the stretch.
We made a business that we made it this far without, like, a
huge blow-up from any of our other than waddle that does
definitely start power on this team.
I mean, Jiu-Jitsu we talked about how he hasn't been great,
the last two games before the bible really promising.
He could hit waddle, obviously has been, I think waddle spent
the hit on this team. Why don't ya Williams?
Right? Well, let's talk about Ramon
driver Madres bad. It was like the one pig that we
were hoping a guy lasted and he did and down the aisles and we
took the 1 spot ahead of time. Here's a funny ground that is so
nice there on Ramon. Dre, would you rather have a
monitor Damien Pierce going forward right now?
Honestly, reminder a reminder that the what the one I've
remembered where you and I had a little disagreement on a live
draft. Was Ramon?
Jerry Pollard and I want a pie, remember that what grass?
And I was like this will be our only shot to get a Pollard
share. And it's look pretty clearly
like my Mantra. And then obviously Pollard has
the big game. I think they both like the
answer has been that they both but I think pretty good.
Yeah, the answer was both. Yeah, but that was this was
taking Ramon Dre. Look at where Pollard isn't
this? That's why I bring it up.
Like yeah, let's talk about how good the value 9/11 was for a
remand. Ready, we got but half rounds
after polar at the spot. I don't even think it's close
though. If you say right now, who do you
want rest to season? Reminder, a Paul.
I don't even think it's close. You want room, Andre, but if but
Pollard could beat him pretty easily and it's and it's He just
plays that sounds like the light.
Let me just add something that's a rat.
It's like Shake. Would you rather have Rashad
white or letter or remind Ray Stevenson?
Like, yeah. White just played that.
Yeah. But there's a big fat thing in
front of him. All right, any final words here.
Frankie plug the pasta house. Fucking plug the Pasta House.
Frankie, that's Pasta House in st.
Louis, you got to come to Afton Missouri.
So as we're at or a phrase, you just still ghosting, you has
Davis ever been to the pasta house.
So in the in the NGO, my Discord he said he's only like two miles
away from us and I still never seen a mother.
So I don't know if he goes days, I'm not there or I know he does
want like stuff. So who knows what I mean?
Two miles. You think I'd see him one time.
You know. You just you just need a taste
until appreciation of the pasta has.
Yeah, there you go. Dude, this is absolute bullshit.
I'm tired. I didn't realize he was too.
Miles from there. This court.
I would shine. Yeah.
Frankie, this is what I need you to do.
I'm gonna pay for this. This is gonna be on me.
I want you to set up a candlelit dinner for Davis and his new
wife. I'm going to pay for the entire
meal. I want you to photograph.
I want you to wind them and dime them at the restaurant.
I mean, can we just make this happen?
Yeah, I'm there, every Wednesday and Saturday nights.
Usually, some sure nights are better form, so he's gotta get
to them. So, all right, I already sent
them a vacuum cleaner on his His registry.
But I'm willing to buy him a nice dinner out, just for the
content Equity, but I have to get a photo out of this.
In a sponsorship for the the pasta house.
Thank you. I appreciate it.
We need all the business we can get so we'll take it.
There you go. Serum.
Do you want to plug? Is there like a?
I don't know. A tree cutting business there.
Anyone Logging Company? Nah man.
Nah nothing to plug the plug. Just working raising kids.
That's a football for five months a year.
I got you Lou. What's going on at lucky Trader?
We talking gobblers talking rainmakers.
Oh man, you haven't done anything with the gobblers.
Yeah, I'm still doing. I do a couple of videos a week
on Rainmaker stuff right now they're about halfway through
season and its General and a tea stuff there's still.
And if these are still going on, people still talking about them.
So we're still covering the Can you talk to kalish about my
pack? Did you see the pack I open last
night club? Oh yeah, that was probably the
worst back I've ever seen. Let's hear about this.
No mine in cash in the Spy this week on DraftKings.
And they like undercut, the prize pool and like only did one
point five X-Men caches and then the normal spot that they did
like the full like to X-Men cash.
They gave rainmakers packs. So that's what I want for like
essentially. Boiling them in Cache line.
So I opened it last night club Top Shot and you got like, four
comments or whatever regular cards.
And there was one rare card and that's where you're trying to
make your money. And so I get to it to fucking
Mitch true Biscay where I was down.
So I was dealt a couple of weeks that was usable.
Good days are long past. Great.
Anything are you going? You going back into the studio?
This Friday. Is that a regular thing for you
now? Yeah, I've been, I've been going
up. I'll be up Friday.
Yep. That's it's been every Friday
for the last few weeks. I was up, Monday actually, as
well. Me and Lawrence Jackson were on
the show on fantasy football. Happy hour did a segment but
yeah, be back Friday, check out the walkthrough on rotor
world.com. You got big, big pressure pad
because the blurb we featured in the Fantasy, Life news.
Letter was your Jalen hurts. AJ Brown couldn't have been more
accurate. We talk about, being right, for
the right reasons, like could not have more, I mean,
Nostradamus over here. It is, I did feel good about
that I selected because of walkthroughs, like about like a
35-page research paper. So I did it.
I took like the for fucking paragraphs of maybe.
Look the best. That was a nice.
It was a nice. Nice up.
Well, you picked up in advance. You didn't pick them to the I
look less after like right. Yeah, I picked it.
I picked it on Friday. Yeah, you nailed.
Right four paragraphs to choose is what you're saying but I mean
what a perfect breakdown of how that was going to play out those
beautiful graduates. Let since the weekend like
that's that was like yes it's just for me that the strategy
here is not just you know get something right, put it in the
newsletter but also pick something that is going to make
Gretsch extremely happy so they can help promote the wind so
that I don't have to choose my own heart.
Born here. All right.
AJ Brown Auto retweet. Yeah, graduating thing else
going on in your neck of the woods of course stealing signals
stealing lines stealing bananas. No.
I mean, I just want to talk more about how AJ Brown is the best
receiver of this or any Generation IV kit.
Can we just have the Texans miraculously put up a fight
tomorrow? So they just have to play four
quarters. I be, could you imagine the
Eagles? Numbers, if they had to play
more than two quarters a week. I mean it would be very fun.
We got one plug. I gotta plug Steam and Minds for
one specific play that I like blindly tailed.
And while I was making the bets, I was like this is the dumbest
waste of money I've ever done in my life and I think I made like
500 bucks off of it. Alright it was Dalton posted PJ
Walker and DJ more ladders like alt lines up to like plus 4.
1401 that when that bomb caught DJ more broke the taught by ten
yards of PJ Walker broke his top all by likes three and it was
just like God doubled my role. It was amazing.
So wow everyone subscribe to stealing lines every now and
again, like it paid my subscription like five times
over Dalton is there is a little bit of, you know, the longer
shots and I've heard some feedback that people don't love
the, you know, sometimes you're going to miss on those a lot.
They're all Frack. A lot of them are fractional.
That's for doing a lot of normal you know, prop bets and I do all
the game pets and stuff but Dalton is like part of the
reason I brought him in. He's been very good at these
long shots. He's been crushing them again
this year. We had a Monster.
Yeah, we must not just those ones but he's hit.
I mean he knows how to pick those out.
He's good. He tagged me in it when he puts
those ladders, it's like it's one in four that they hit, like,
it's been. It's been wild this season
because you're getting 10 x 15 x value on the Vets, please.
In them like 20 percent 15 percent of the time.
Like is it a couple of most you know, the weak leader?
Yardage problems as well. Couple big ones, just wait till
the I've started. He's been tagging me now because
he'll get tagged in like, you know, Smith MVP stuff.
The one that originated the force.
Yeah, that's the best. That anyone who plays that, that
was like, I'm wasting my money. I was like, I don't care.
How long of a shot. That was, that was ridiculous.
I understand totally year has words for that window that way.
It was the worst. That's where that's where I felt
lost me was Arthur Smith coach of the year.
I kiss, you just can't root for that.
I mean, who can owe you for that.
All right, guys, very fun show. Come.
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