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Hello everyone, and welcome to a
special Week 2 edition of In 

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season ADP Chasing. 
We got another week of data 

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under our belts. 
We'll break it all down here. 

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Talk about the players were 
panicking on the players were 

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victory lapping and the players 
were bag defending. 

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Let's do it. 
ADP chasing is for when you 

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watch ship chasing you go these 
guys are just football guys. 

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And the targets for outrun 
leagues, that's going to be 

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really nice. 
Actually back in if it's Asha 

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neck. 
It's here to our crystal ball. 

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close your eyes. 
You know all your entries are 

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going to lose anyway. 
Yeah. 

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That's fair. 
This is a Dusvan show. 

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It's. 
Anti cabal. 

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It's anti the best ball thought 
leader. 

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I'm obviously lying to some 
degree because like, I have a 

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lot of both of these guys. 
It's the most disgusting. 

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Thing you can make but man 
everyone and welcome to Week 2 

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of in season ADP chasing. 
Joined today as always by Pat 

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and Davis. 
Fellas, how are we doing today 

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after Week 2? 
Doing good. 

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How are you doing? 
You're doing good. 

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New background today. 
Yeah, I guess. 

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Yeah. 
I did this recorded premiere for

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the Shift cast, but yeah this is
going to be where I'm recorded 

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from more often than not instead
of the shed once. 

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Once people are accusing me of 
getting kidnapped, I figured it 

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was time to to stream from a 
different location. 

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His his new bit is he's going to
stream from a different room in 

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his house every time. 
Every time they do the, every 

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time they do the shift cast, 
he's going to be in a different 

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room. 
Yeah, I think I kind of one up 

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to you on that bit this 
offseason from recording from a 

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different house every single 
show this over the offseason, 

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but a different room each time. 
That also works. 

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Might want to mix in some some 
China in the. 

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Background I am working on 
getting some Revolutionary War 

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Air China by me. 
Yeah, no, I could. 

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I have some good some good 
websites for you to check out. 

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Let me know. 
Anyways, we'll dive right into 

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it. 
You know, as we talked about 

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last week, these in in season 
shows are going to be tight. 

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One hour shows, no time for chit
chat. 

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We're going to go right into 
what we'll be doing every week, 

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at least for the next couple 
weeks, going over one player 

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that were victory lapping, one 
player we're bag defending and 

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one player we are pressing the 
panic button on. 

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We'll have one of each of these 
for each of us. 

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So starting with last week, I 
think, you know, across the 

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board we had some pretty good 
calls that the Bears wide 

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receivers that came to fruition 
again last night that that 

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situation did not look good. 
Pat and Davis were on that one. 

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JK Dobbins again, if I'm patting
myself in the back, that looked 

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really good. 
Devon a chain Davis had that 

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call victory lapping that, that 
looked really good. 

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But yeah, just just look at this
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I'll give it to you first. 
Davis, anything on your takes 

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from last week you wanted to to 
quickly hit on anything you 

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maybe changed your mind on 1st 
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I mean, just just as down on the
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I, I actually don't think the 
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that much for him. 
Obviously it'll he'll Ding his 

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range of outcomes a little bit, 
but compared to what's going to 

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happen to Tyreke and Waddle, 
nothing, nothing in in the same 

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vicinity. 
I would just say on Chase Brown,

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he's definitely A0 right now. 
Like he is not startable in any 

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spot at all. 
But Zach Moss is a bad player. 

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They gave Zach Moss another goal
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He tried to get around. 
He he looked like an offensive 

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lineman trying to get around the
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play really bad. 
But I mean, yes, that is exact. 

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That's bag defending. 
That is the literal that. 

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Is that's the literal definition
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The literal definition of bag 
defending is my guy stinks, but 

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the other guy might be worse. 
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actually hasn't been bad at the 
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for, which is consistency. 
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He he's you know, his success 
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Gen. which includes last week. 
And that's good. 

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You know, it's not like amazing,
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there. 
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that's what you're if you're the
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giving up going from Brown to 
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And so if Moss would have fall 
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you're like, well, then why 
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explosive running back on the 
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Being, well, you, you did see 
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definition of bag defending. 
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was on the field in their final 
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It was Brown and he got two 
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the ball. 
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defending. 
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the Bengals do know that Brown 
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talented player. 
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That's not really what they're 
interested in for 70. 

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I think that's. 
Exactly right, yeah. 

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I think you also have to the the
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I agree that like if we're using
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like everything, I would agree 
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talented runner. 
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runs, there's some reps where 
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He's runs. 
Into the ass of his lineman. 

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Yeah, he runs from the acids 
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I don't think he has like great 
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Get him in space and he's a fun 
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But I I do think there's going 
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Moss is not a fun player, 
there's some things he's just 

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better at than Chase Brown. 
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take the bag defending point of 
view on Brown, there's only two 

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running backs in Cincinnati that
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There's no, you know, Chris 
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isn't getting any snaps. 
There's no like third guy out 

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there that I can even think of 
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So with an injury to Moss, we're
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role for Chase Brown, even 
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So where do you draft him for a 
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Pick 120? 
If he is this kind of like a 

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contingent, that's not that bad.
Not that bad you regret. 

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Maybe some of the shares in the 
90s, you know. 

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Yeah, yeah, that's where I'm at.
I do. 

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I do regret doing that. 
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imagine him having a huge game 
if Moss or a missed time. 

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So from that perspective, I 
think it's a pretty strong bag 

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defend. 
Like he's, he definitely has 

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that upside in a way where 
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like he's going to do this all 
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regardless of what happens with 
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Anyways, we're we're a 
forward-looking show. 

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So let's let's move on to next 
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Just so just so everyone in the 
audience, maybe you're you're 

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new to in season ADP chasing. 
Just to be clear on these 

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definitions, I'll go through it 
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Victory lapping is a player 
we're moving up way higher in 

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our rest of season rankings 
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performance or, you know, maybe 
past two weeks performance bag 

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defending is a guy that maybe 
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His prices may be down in some 
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contest, but you think his 
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And then panic button is a guy 
that we think should be moving 

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way down basis, you know, 
compared to where we drafted in 

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the summer and so on. 
So those are the definitions. 

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They can correspond to our takes
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I think they usually will. 
But we're also talking big 

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picture here. 
It's OK to say do a victory lap 

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for a guy you weren't in on if 
they just look a lot better. 

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We're not solely constrained to 
our own personal takes. 

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So with that said, I think I'll 
give it to Pat this week for his

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first victory lap player. 
Very nervous he's going to steal

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the guy who I want to talk about
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But Pat, who is your number one 
victory lap player after Week 2?

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James Cook, This is a guy I 
actually was in on, but I never 

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was in on him as much as like I 
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know, with me and running backs,
I got to get really excited in 

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the early rounds. 
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I'll I'll have a huge bag. 
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to go, Oh, I'd like to take 
savior worthy here or Rishi Rice

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isn't going to be in the 5th 
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whatever other receiver I've 
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elite tight ends. 
We're going in a similar range. 

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Some of the quarterbacks were 
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So there was lots of distracting
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They kept me from going like 
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But I did end up overweight and 
was a guy. 

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I mean, part of the reason I was
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and Jacobs and Pacheco and you 
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running backs like Henry was 
that I was like, I can just get 

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James Cook in the 5th and he's 
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guys was, you know, honestly, I 
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take, you know, for Pete's video
on James Cook, but Daniel Raz 

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just did a way better version of
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And so I had to pivot. 
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what I think I believe I said on
ADP chasing early on, like I 

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like him more than Pacheco. 
And you know, I liked him more 

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than ETN. 
But like his, the reason that 

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people weren't really buying 
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that you like, he's not going to
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and what if he? 
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Yeah, that's the big thing. 
And and in that sense, it was 

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just a really clean bet. 
It was similar to Eckler a few 

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years ago where it's like he's 
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touchdown, so he can't he can't 
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But then he did score the 
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One of the biggest things in 
fantasy, when guys who don't 

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score touchdowns all of a sudden
start scoring them and they're 

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getting the touches they did 
before, it just, it changes the 

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whole thing. 
It changes the whole thing and 

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and he's really explosive. 
He's versatile. 

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He's everything we're looking 
for in a running back because 

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you know, he's also on the bills
and all of a sudden the bills 

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are are all about running the 
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You know, they're they're way 
less passive than they used to 

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be. 
So, you know, I don't know that 

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he's going to be I don't think 
this is like a clean a hit as we

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got with Eckler that year where 
he was like all the sudden their

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goal line back, like I think Ray
Davis over time will steal 

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touchdowns. 
We saw in week one that Josh 

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Allen will steal touchdowns, but
Cook went from a guy who had 

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basically no touchdown equity, 
like 2 touchdowns last year to 

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now having legitimate touchdown 
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He's like a normal running back,
and so we would just take him 

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much earlier. 
I think he would have gone like 

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in that third round range, maybe
early third round range if we 

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knew what we know now. 
Yeah, IA 100% back this take and

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yeah, I ended up with 14% James 
Cook on the dog pretty happy 

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with again on DraftKings. 
I actually don't know how to 

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check my DraftKings exposures 
anymore. 

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They. 
They took it away. 

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They took it away. 
You can't. 

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You can't right now. 
This is actually this is great 

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cope for me because that way I 
can just make up the exposure 

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exposure. 
Yeah, you just tell yourself 

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whatever it is. 
But but underdog, I do confirm 

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to have 13.6% of James Cook very
very happy with that and my 

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thesis which which hasn't even 
completely come true I guess. 

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I guess it has in some ways, but
I think we were kind of tripping

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over ourselves this offseason to
figure out who is the pass 

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catcher in Buffalo that is going
to take the big leap. 

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You know, people were chasing 
Keon Coleman way up the board. 

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I understand why people were 
chasing Kincaid way up the 

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board. 
I understand why I fell for the 

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Curtis Samuel trap a little bit.
Julio Shakur, he went, you know,

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in the early hundreds after not 
doing much through two years in 

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his career. 
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the situation. 
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answer was just that James Cook 
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of the offense alongside Josh 
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Again, it wasn't the cleanest 
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Like you had to squint to see 
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what he's done in the first two 
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You had to do more than squint. 
It was a, it was an open your 

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third eye sort of situation. 
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but I did. 
I did have the Eckler. 

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I don't know if I made the 
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anywhere, but I did have the 
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mind. 
It's that like everything is 

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there. 
He was a guy who had what, 1600 

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yards from scrimmage the prior 
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He's a good receiver. 
He's an explosive player, like 

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all we need is just the 
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and he's on a good offense. 
So like there's upside if it 

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does go our way. 
So he he was a guy I was pretty 

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heavily and on. 
I'm really, really happy about 

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that. 100% agree with Pat's 
take. 

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Davis, I guess putting you on 
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Cook, like Ruff, if you were 
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where do you think Cook goes 
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I know you don't like fully have
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like. 
Two like 2-3, like 2-3 turn I 

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think. 
I think he's still like right 

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behind a chain. 
I feel is kind of the right, 

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right right behind where a chain
was. 

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Going a chain was going, yeah. 
Yeah, if we redrafted today, a 

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chain would be a first round 
pick. 

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I think it's tough to whenever I
say stuff, I just assume 

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everyone else. 
We don't know how. 

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We don't have any more 
information about. 

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Exactly, Yeah. 
Because otherwise it's like, I 

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don't know, it just gets so 
complicated. 

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Then it becomes a a sliding a 
sliding glass doors thing of 

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like, well we just have to do a 
show re ranking the entire 

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field. 
Exactly. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
It's it's a tough thing to do 

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unless you actually go out and 
try to do it. 

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All right, moving on, Davis, who
is your victory lap player after

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two weeks of NFL football? 
Well, sadly, you got to be the 

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biggest Nico Collins bowl on the
show, despite the fact that I 

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had 20% of him. 
So you kind of stole that for 

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me. 
So I will. 

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I will then go with the guy who 
should have been going 

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one-on-one the whole time, 
Justin Jefferson. 

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Respectfully, he's not Garrett 
Wilson. 

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Respectfully, he's not Garrett 
Wilson. 

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That was from the seas, 
derogatory from Justin. 

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Jefferson that was from the 
seas, Very. 

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Derogatory. 
Yeah. 

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Respectfully, respectfully, 
Garrett Wilson, you are not you.

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Need to steal that. 
We need some respect please. 

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Yeah. 
I think I think the something we

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are going to look back on, 
assuming that this quad injury 

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is not a big deal is we drafted 
a 29 year old running back, a 30

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year old wide receiver, a wide 
receiver holding out, you know, 

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Bijan Robinson recent we drafted
all these guys this. 

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Has the case to be the 
one-on-one in in? 

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The one-on-one on his I was. 
Going to say Braylon Allen now. 

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Is this from Braylon Allen? 
Davis is above, yeah. 

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Watching, watching Braylon Allen
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my I was like, I was like Davis.
And March was the sharpest 

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drafter in fantasy with March. 
With Braylon. 

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Yeah, Justin Jefferson, he's 
he's the best wide receiver in 

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the NFL. 
The idea that KOC was gonna be 

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able to look at Sam Darnold and 
go good enough for me. 

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Why not? 
Yeah, I I can work. 

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I can work with this. 
That's exactly what happened. 

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The the JJ, the JJ McCarthy 
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Watching Caleb Williams Bow Nix 
and and all these other rosy 

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quarterbacks Might be a win, 
might be a win. 

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Yeah, might be a win. 
That that that JJ McCarthy is 

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not available. 
So yeah, I think Justin 

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Jefferson the rightful 
one-on-one. 

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Yeah, I. 
Don't see how it's not a win. 

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I mean, like McCarthy's not 
making that that deep bomb throw

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like. 
Darnold. 

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No, no, no. 
Darnold does stuff that loses 

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NFL teams games and everything, 
but he is willing to take 

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chances and they were. 
They're willing to throw the 

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ball more than I assume they 
would be with a rookie 

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quarterback. 
Like you can't let a rookie 

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quarterback embarrass. 
Beat the beat the 49ers as a 5 

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point home dog. 
Yeah, that's, that's no joke. 

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That's, I mean, Davis, I, I, I 
think you deserve full credit 

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for this take. 
I, I was not like fully 

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Jefferson pilled like you were. 
I wasn't one of those people 

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that was fading him. 
I think I was right at market, 

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like I was just taking him where
the market told me to take him. 

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That that was clearly a little 
bit wrong. 

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I probably should have been 
doing what you were doing. 

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But yeah, assuming this thigh 
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understand how you can't have 
Jefferson in the the top 3 or 4,

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maybe maybe even as early as one
O 1. 

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I'd have to think about that 
further. 

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But so many people in front of 
them have failed or things have 

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not gone their way. 
You know, the CMC injury Tyreke 

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loses to so on and so on. 
I think Jefferson has a clear 

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case to be one O 1 like you're 
saying all offseason. 

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Pat, any, any closing thoughts 
on Jefferson? 

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I did. 
Towards the very end, with Davis

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Sky in the back of my head, I 
did. 

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I did go more Jefferson. 
I I thought the with, you know, 

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before everyone panicked on 
Chase, I would sometimes break 

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ties to Jefferson over Chase. 
So I got up to 10% one underdog,

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which which feels good. 
But yeah, you are all over this 

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one. 
Davis, He looks, he's the best 

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Rider receiver in the league and
his quarterback play is. 

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Don't don't give me too much 
credit man, there are a lot of 

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LS that are are just. 
Going to take well, it feels. 

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Good to get. 
It feels good to get a first 

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round stance right. 
Like if Mar Chase was just going

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nuts and Justin Jefferson had 
six catches through two games, 

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I'd be like, well, I'm 
definitely not making money in 

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basketball this year. 
Like making money in basketball 

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this year. 
So getting a first round stance 

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right does feel. 
Pretty, yeah. 

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The only like the slightest, you
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would say is like we have seen 
this with Darnold before where 

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he looks good and. 
It. 

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All comes apart. 
So just I'm just keeping that in

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mind. 
I I think I think it's pretty 

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legit. 
I really like KOC is a play 

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caller in Minnesota. 
So I'm not saying this Darnold 

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stuff is a fluke, but just keep 
that in mind. 

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Maybe if you can get an insane 
trade package for Jefferson one 

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of your leagues like you get, I 
don't know, Chase plus James. 

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I I think tyree. 
Is. 

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No, Tyreek is the one you could 
do in your 12 team home league. 

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You could get you could get 
Tyreek and Kenneth Walker like 

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right now or something like 
that, I think. 

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And and Charbonnay played really
bad so. 

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Yeah, but I'd be wanting to sell
very high at on Chase. 

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I'm definitely not saying he's 
he's a sell only if you can get 

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tons of value. 
All right, my my victory lap, I 

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was I was worried. 
So I had a backup option 

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prepared. 
But I'm I'm going with the guy 

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who I wanted here, Brock Bowers.
He was like an absolute smash 

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where he was going. 
You know, DraftKings around pick

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100 underdog. 
I think around pick pick 90 

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something in there. 
Here's where Brock Bowers is at 

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through two games of his NFL 
career and PPR points per game. 

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He's the tight end too. 
Targets per route run. 

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He's the tight end four and 
insane 27% targets per route 

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run. 
That would have been very close 

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to leading the league last year,
if not number one, probably in 

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the top three. 
And then here's the kicker. 

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He's tightened 20 in route 
participation in the same range 

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of guys like Greg Dulcich and 
Johnny Munt. 

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So some people might see that as
a bad thing. 

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I see that as a massive upside 
case for Brock Powers. 

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What's it? 
What is this route 

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participation? 
He's for the tight end, 20 in 

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route participation. 
I believe he's at like 70%, like

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68%, something like that, low 
70s. 

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Mayer Mayer played a ton. 
I I don't know, I don't know 

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why, but Mayer played a ton more
in this game than he did in 

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week. 
One, yeah. 

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And I'm not saying that Bowers 
is ever going to be like 100% 

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that that's really rare at tight
end by the. 

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Way Titans tend to peak around 
85, but they're. 

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I mean, if he's in the low 70s, 
that's meaningful to jump 

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another 15, yeah. 
So there's there's room to grow 

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on the route participation for 
sure. 

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And he just looks really good to
me. 

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I think it's it's pretty rare 
tight ends that can go out and 

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man coverage and beat corners 
and safeties on in breaking 

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routes out breaking routes. 
He can kind of do it all. 

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Like when you watch him, he he 
doesn't look like the world's 

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most athletic Titan. 
Like, he doesn't look like 

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Gronk, one of these absolute 
athletic freaks out there, but 

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he's just so reliable. 
He just gets open. 

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Yeah, he just gets open, really 
technical route runner. 

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He's good after the catch. 
Again, not like world beating 

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levels of speed or athleticism, 
but he's just really good at the

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game. 
And yeah, I think if I was 

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redrafting today, I would have 
Bowers in my top three of Titan.

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Like I'd have McBride over him 
who was the second tight end of 

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have over Bowers Right now I'm 
not even sure I can confident 

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list list a second one like he 
he's up there in the top three 

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for me. 
So I feel really good about I 

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had I think 22% exposure on 
DraftKings, 16% on underdog. 

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I'm really happy with the Brock 
Bowers bags. 

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Damn not you don't even have a 
2IN front of your Bowers 

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exposure bro. 
Do you know Ball? 

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I do, I do on DraftKings. 
Not an underdog. 

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It took me a while. 
I had to get bullied by. 

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Jason Sam's best ball team. 
Yeah, Jacob Sanderson, thank you

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for bullying me on Brock Bowers.
He bullied me in the right 

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direction, got me there. 
Yeah, I I was only at 12%. 

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I didn't didn't go nuts. 
But it could have been like a 

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fade situation, which obviously 
just be disastrous. 

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He he's I mean, it wasn't that 
hard of a sell. 

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Like he is one of the best tight
end prospects of all time. 

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I was never that worried about 
the athletic testing. 

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This dude led the LED like all 
of college football and Yak for 

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three straight years and then 
came out as a, you know, before 

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his true senior season. 
That seems really good, you 

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know, and then went very high 
and really would have gone 

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higher in a different era where 
teams were worrying less about, 

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you know, the positional value 
of a tight end. 

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Like if this was like 2003, he's
like the one O 2, you know, he 

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goes ahead of Daniels or 
something. 

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I'm saying, yeah, he was seen 
as, you know, like the the best 

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player in the draft of, you 
know, positions aside outside of

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Caleb Williams probably. 
So, you know, I I guess then 

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when like it's like, oh, well, 
he might not be that athletic. 

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Like, I mean, odds are he's 
athletic enough given what he 

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did and given how excited people
were about his tape. 

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So, yeah, I just thought I 
thought that situation would be 

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would be tough. 
And so I got nervous about it 

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early on in the, you know, 
basketball mania season May and 

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stuff. 
But but Jacob always had it 

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right. 
It's like this guy, the the 

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profile we're getting access to 
here too at this price is just 

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really unheard. 
Of it's it's total, it's total 

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zoom out on the chart. 
Stuff like Gretch is really good

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at writing about this stuff and 
ceiling signals. 

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It's like just take players who 
are insanely good and the kind 

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of the rest of it will will take
care of itself. 

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And that's totally what's 
happening with Bowers. 

447
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,680
Yeah, yeah, I, I think, you 
know, victory lapping for like 

448
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,640
not being that concerned about 
like exactly how all of these 

449
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,040
situations are going to break 
out. 

450
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,120
Like, like how is Bowers 
possibly going to get there? 

451
00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:51,920
Like, I don't know, man. 
He will though. 

452
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,200
Like he will. 
I don't know how exactly but he 

453
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,080
will because he's like the best 
tight end. 

454
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,000
Because he's the ghost, yeah. 
Yeah. 

455
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,200
Yeah. 
So yeah. 

456
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,840
And I think like an insightful 
process that I came to this 

457
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,600
summer is like my initial gut 
reaction to the Bowers thing, 

458
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,440
which I backed off of completely
was, you know, Devonte Adams is 

459
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,120
there, Jacoby Meyers is there. 
They're going to, you know, the 

460
00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:18,560
target chair, Michael Mayer is 
there. 

461
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,360
He's going to steal some routes 
from Bowers. 

462
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,520
It's a bad quarterback. 
Like it's just a bad situation. 

463
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,280
And but but you have to think 
about like, if if you're that 

464
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,680
precise in how a situation is 
going to play out, you're 

465
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,200
missing the outcome where the 
Raiders offense to me like looks

466
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,240
pretty good. 
Like it looks actually, it's 

467
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,520
actually good that Devante Adams
is out there on the outside. 

468
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,000
So teams can't put all their 
attention on Brock Bowers. 

469
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,480
Like what you're going to, 
you're going to double cover 

470
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,960
Bowers and leave Devante Adams 
outside in single man coverage. 

471
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,560
Like you're going to get smoked.
You got Trey Tucker out there. 

472
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,800
Like he's a fun vertical slot 
player. 

473
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,120
He's the guy that threatens the 
defense. 

474
00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:56,360
Like they have some actually 
kind of fun pass catchers in my 

475
00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:59,520
opinion, and I think that 
actually helps the offense. 

476
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,200
Soundtrack. 
And helps Bowers. 

477
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:06,040
Zoom in on the chart even more. 
Every offense sucks. 

478
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,080
This is the lowest passing 
touchdown, lowest YPA, lowest A 

479
00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:12,200
dot that's ever been around in 
the NFL like we're at like I 

480
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,720
think like 15 year lows there. 
What was it? 

481
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,800
66 passing touchdowns is the all
time record for lowest passing 

482
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:24,240
touchdowns in a week. 
And last week was the lowest 

483
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,200
scoring week in the NFL in a 
decade. 

484
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,200
And unless the game tonight goes
for 147 points, this week too is

485
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,440
going to be even worse. 
It's going to be even lower 

486
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,880
scoring. 
So if that's true, then being a 

487
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,920
20% target share guy on the 17th
best offense is fine because 

488
00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:41,760
like every offense kind of 
stinks. 

489
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,880
Yeah. 
And not sorry. 

490
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:45,960
Go ahead, Crane. 
You had something there. 

491
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,080
No, I just, I just agreed. 
I just agreed with the things 

492
00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:51,280
and stuff, yeah. 
Yeah, the only tiny thing to add

493
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,880
to that for Davis is I actually 
don't have the the Week 2 

494
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,920
numbers in front of me, but the 
Raiders were like a top five 

495
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,760
team in pass rate over expected 
in the Week 1. 

496
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,000
I think they're actually kind of
like giving up on this Zamir 

497
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:08,080
White thing pretty quickly. 
They're using Bowers and Devonte

498
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,480
Adams RPO's as like an extension
of the run game like that that 

499
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,520
PPR floor from just like the 
scammy like screens to Bowers 

500
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,280
like that's huge in fantasy if 
that's his floor. 

501
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,960
So yeah, he's just a guy. 
I don't know. 

502
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,840
Is it a hot take to say top 
three tight end rest of season? 

503
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,160
Like no, because. 
That's from I think. 

504
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,120
I think I'd only take, I'd only 
do McBride over him right now. 

505
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,480
Yeah, I think same for me. 
Yeah, I don't, I don't think 

506
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,360
it's a hot take. 
I mean, we we were deciding 

507
00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:40,760
between Drake London, Kyle Pitts
and Brock Bowers in a tight end 

508
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,880
premium and. 
Even started Bowers. 

509
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,440
We didn't start Bowers. 
We're like Alex, just. 

510
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,920
Gonna have a good game tonight. 
Yeah, let's start the Falcons 

511
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,920
guys. 
And and then we were just like, 

512
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,800
Pete just messed like Bowers is 
locked into the lineup. 

513
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,920
Like we're never seeing Bowers. 
Yeah, he's locked, dude. 

514
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,080
So right there. 
I mean, you know, was Pitts 

515
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,160
locked in the lineup? 
Maybe not, you know, so he's 

516
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,000
he's I don't think it's a hot 
take at all to say he's top 

517
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:06,640
three tight end. 
Now. 

518
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,960
One of the things you said about
Adams just had me thinking like 

519
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,600
it is I think when we it's 
fantasy analyst and stuff, you, 

520
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,840
you, you think about target 
share and all that and we divide

521
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,080
up the target pie and is there 
enough targets to go around? 

522
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,280
And someone was like in the chat
was like, wait, why did you 

523
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,360
think it was a bad situation? 
It really came down to like 

524
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,320
that, like the targets, like how
many targets are we getting to 

525
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,000
run first offense? 
Not very high quality targets 

526
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,280
and they're split up between 
Adams and Myers and you know, 

527
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,480
mayor's going to run routes and 
all that. 

528
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,560
But there's just such a big 
difference between a guy like 

529
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,880
Devonte Adams who's going to 
earn his targets, but also like 

530
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,240
make the defense pay for not 
covering him compared to like 

531
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,400
Deonte Johnson or something. 
Like there's there's target 

532
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,720
eaters, right? 
And there's target earners and 

533
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,000
Devonte Adams being a target 
earner actually makes the 

534
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,200
offense a lot better. 
So I think that's like one thing

535
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,080
I want to think about more, you 
know, next year, like if you're 

536
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:11,080
next to a guy who's so good that
he's going to get targets even 

537
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,320
if he's double covered, like if 
you're next to Justin Jefferson,

538
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,000
right? 
And you, you know, obviously we 

539
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,640
saw with TJ Hawkinson, like TJ 
Hawkinson can eat next to Justin

540
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,360
Jefferson because Jefferson's 
just really, really good for an 

541
00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:25,080
FL offense. 
Not every guy who earns targets 

542
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,800
is because sometimes they're 
just scooping up underneath 

543
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,480
volume and stuff like that. 
Yeah, like Cooper Cup is 

544
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,320
extremely inefficient and bad 
for NFL offenses, but just gets 

545
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:41,080
a lot of targets. 
All right, moving on here to I 

546
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,000
had I had to get a dig in you. 
You guys made me feel so much 

547
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,760
pain last week. 
I was literally having Cooper 

548
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,920
Cup nightmares last week. 
So I I had I had to get a little

549
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:55,640
something in there. 
Let's move on here to bag 

550
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,960
defending. 
Davis, who's a player you're bag

551
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:02,960
defending this week again. 
What do you mean bag defending? 

552
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,840
Not as just like the actual real
definition of bag defending, but

553
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,280
someone you actually think the 
market shouldn't be panicking 

554
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,560
on. 
Give it to you, Davis. 

555
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,600
Well buddy, the Chad is going to
hate this one. 

556
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,880
They are going to be retching 
and vomiting and saying how 

557
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,560
stupid I am. 
But I'm really not worried about

558
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,160
Travis Kelsey. 
The routes are fine. 

559
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,800
He had a he had a 41 yard gain 
called back by a pretty ticky 

560
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,000
back holding. 
Back. 

561
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,800
And I was going to say he that 
literally was classic Kelsey 

562
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,440
like finds the. 
Soft. 

563
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,360
Spot finds the soft spot in the 
zone, pretends he's going to 

564
00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:36,640
lateral it to Rashi. 
Like, yeah, he's doing this, I 

565
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,800
mean. 
And the Chiefs, I will say this,

566
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,160
this would be more of the the 
panic button and I'm not going 

567
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,360
to do this as my panic button. 
But I will say, you know, the 

568
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,080
Chiefs just do not care right 
now. 

569
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,880
They were down a touchdown at 
home to their biggest rivals and

570
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,320
they they were just like 
lollygagging. 

571
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,280
They were, they were just like 
they're on the sideline just 

572
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,960
like chatting, you know, just 
like, you know, whatever, we'll 

573
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,880
win this game, we'll get we'll 
get one good foul call and we'll

574
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,800
win. 
It's exactly, it's exactly what 

575
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:11,560
happened, you know, but Kelsey 
is going to score 9 touchdowns. 

576
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,920
I, I think the thing that will 
be different is he probably is 

577
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,240
not going to have any like 10 
catch games anymore. 

578
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,640
That is probably over that. 
That's Rashi's role now. 

579
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,640
But it's definitely not going to
surprise me if it we get we get 

580
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,600
to the end of the season and 
Kelsey has the two highest 

581
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,480
individual scoring games of any 
tight end because the chiefs 

582
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,360
just decided they needed him in 
two weeks or they just decided 

583
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,400
to try. 
And, and I mean the, the 

584
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,120
Pacheco, the Pacheco injury as 
well. 

585
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,920
Like they're they're already the
number one team in the NFL in 

586
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,760
pass rate over expectation. 
I'm going to guess they tilt 

587
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,880
that way even more. 
So I personally, I am bag 

588
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,640
defending Kelsey. 
I, I am not, I'm not super, 

589
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,960
super panicked about him. 
Crane, what are what are your 

590
00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:02,120
thoughts on on Kelsey? 
You think Davis is right here? 

591
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,080
I hope so we'll have a bunch of 
Travis Kelsey. 

592
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:10,320
So but I mean, I agree with the 
that, you know that that play 

593
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,600
gets called back. 
He also he had that play where 

594
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,560
he gets stopped at the at the 
goal line. 

595
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,960
So yeah, he almost scored. 
He almost scored. 

596
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,400
And I do think it's probably 
good think. 

597
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,200
And I wrote this up in the 
walkthrough last week and it 

598
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,280
didn't work out this week, but 
there's a lot of their offense 

599
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,600
is still driven by the exact 
type of target that Kelsey 

600
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,680
feasts on this, this underneath 
kind of Rashi Rice target. 

601
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,080
And right now those are going to
Rice. 

602
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,040
But it doesn't necessarily mean 
that that's always going to be 

603
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,000
the case. 
And we know that they have a 

604
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,520
great connection, Mahomes and 
Kelsey. 

605
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,080
So I could I could see him 
racking up targets. 

606
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,960
I think it's probably going to 
be a little bit more about like 

607
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,160
what the what does the defense 
prefer to? 

608
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,080
Take away that's they also 
started out the year Ravens, 

609
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,760
Bengals like probably like two 
of their biggest regular season 

610
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,120
games that they are that they're
going to play like tight good 

611
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,440
defenses, defenses that have 
historically done well against 

612
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,240
them. 
Yeah, I just like if we're, if 

613
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,760
we're doing this, if we're doing
this in a month or if we're 

614
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,120
doing this after, after four 
weeks, you know, and it's like 

615
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,400
they they keep getting, you 
know, Mahomes is throwing 28 

616
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,080
passes and backup tackles or 
scoring, then sure, I I will, I 

617
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,920
will evaluate. 
But nothing that I've seen 

618
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,840
through two weeks has been like,
well, Kelsey can't score points.

619
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,920
It would be impossible for 
Kelsey to score points in this 

620
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,960
offense. 
Yeah, I mean, like from a, you 

621
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,080
know, if we zoom out on the 
chart like does Patrick Mahomes 

622
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,880
so it'll look, you know, really 
good. 

623
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,440
Does this offense look like one 
we want to be invested in? 

624
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,840
Does it look like it's going to 
be a lot better than last year? 

625
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,520
They I mean, they just lost the 
running back. 

626
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,560
Like the the Hollywood Brown is 
going to be out for a long time.

627
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,680
Like it's actually the the 
underlying situation is actually

628
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,640
quite a bit more bullish for 
Kelsey than it was when we. 

629
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,840
Were drafted. 
Do you like Pat's new bit of 

630
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,160
throwing one of the worst 
interceptions you've ever seen 

631
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,600
once a week just like kind of as
a way to keep things fresh? 

632
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,960
It's like his his new bit is 
just throw the worst 

633
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,040
interception you can possibly 
imagine. 

634
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,280
It's the one field equivalent of
drafting CEH just to prove that 

635
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,400
he has the the pull with the. 
Front office. 

636
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,400
It's like when Larry Bird used 
to randomly try and score left 

637
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,760
only left-handed for a game. 
Like just let me let me just 

638
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,200
basically throw a lateral to a 
linebacker and just see what 

639
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,480
happens. 
Yeah. 

640
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:42,160
I, I, yeah, I, I think I, I'm 
probably a little biased because

641
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,840
I didn't have as much Kelsey as 
you guys. 

642
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,200
I think you guys make good 
points. 

643
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,520
I think like Kelsey has to come 
down in the tight end rankings 

644
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,840
versus where he is to start the 
season, but he's definitely not 

645
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,600
a full blown panic. 
He could still be. 

646
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,640
We're only 1/2 hour in. 
We have time. 

647
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,040
We can do this. 
McBride 1. 

648
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,920
Bowers 2. 
Laporta or Kelsey. 

649
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,600
I I got Kelsey. 
Yeah, I got Kelsey. 

650
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,760
I go laporta for for the age 
model stuff but. 

651
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,280
Jamo breaking out is a disaster 
for Laporta. 

652
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,080
I got, I got some laporta for 
laporta. 

653
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,480
I got some laporta takes later 
so. 

654
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,520
OK, OK, OK. 
Let's not step all over me, but 

655
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,560
I I don't think it's, I 
certainly think it's the same 

656
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:25,440
tier, Kelsey and Laporta. 
But yeah, that that's yeah, 

657
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,560
that's a reasonable point. 
I don't know. 

658
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,400
I don't know anything else was. 
Saying Kelsey, I mean, honestly,

659
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,960
like he he might have had, he 
could have easily had what it 

660
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:40,440
still would have been like 2 for
46 and a touchdown like that. 

661
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,760
You know, I'm giving him both 
plays there, but like he's got 2

662
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,200
for 46 and a touchdown. 
We're like, that sucks, but like

663
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,600
we survived. 46 and a touchdown.
That's tight end one of any. 

664
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,000
Yeah, we're into it. 
Yeah, we're into that. 

665
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,760
So I don't know. 
I mean, it's just like to me, 

666
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,480
it's a zoom out situation. 
It's been it's been a 

667
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,640
frustrating and I mean, if you 
were making the case, which I 

668
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,680
kind of was that like, look, 
it's he Kelsey still Kelsey and 

669
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,960
the offense is going to rebound.
So like this is going to be this

670
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,679
is going to be pretty sweet to 
get him at the 3-4 turn or the 

671
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:12,560
mid 4th. 
Sometimes that bowl case is 

672
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:18,159
looking much, much weaker, but 
he was still going very cheaply 

673
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:20,080
for, you know. 
Yeah, it wasn't. 

674
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,280
It's not like he was going to. 
Push down like last year yeah, 

675
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,239
yeah, yeah yeah exactly. 
So I still think like the the 

676
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,400
bear case on him was like very 
confident, like Kelsey's not who

677
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,040
he was. 
He's going to get rested at the 

678
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,679
end of the season, you know, and
so far the bear case is working 

679
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:38,199
out great. 
But I, I still think that at the

680
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:41,400
price he was going at, he could 
still hit pretty, pretty big. 

681
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,080
Yeah, not as big as I was 
hoping, hoping, but still, you 

682
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,639
know, so. 
The one thing I'll say is that, 

683
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:51,800
like to me, Kelsey does look 
kind of slow out there, but he 

684
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,080
also kind of looks slow out 
there to me. 

685
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:55,000
Always. 
Yes, he's. 

686
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,160
Weird, when did Kelsey? 
Ever look faster when? 

687
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,800
Did Kelsey look faster? 
No, he he definitely looks 

688
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,560
different than how he looked in 
his prime. 

689
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,280
I think it's it's burning your 
head in his hand to not believe 

690
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,640
that. 
Yeah, but that's part of the 

691
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,800
thesis of not ranking him as 
high, right? 

692
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,800
I'm just saying that like Kelsey
looks older to me, but he still 

693
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,960
has these plays where it's 
scramble drill, he gets open, he

694
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,760
makes. 
Defenders he he's the most elite

695
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,880
like head faker of all time that
it gets the defender every time 

696
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,360
on the scramble drill. 
There's defenders that he has no

697
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,920
business like juking out of 
their shoes and he and he still 

698
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,760
does it even though he's he's 
slow and doesn't look that fast.

699
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,320
So I'm not I'm definitely not 
walking on Kelsey's Kelsey's 

700
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,680
grave here. 
I think they'll be big games 

701
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,480
before we get the next thing I 
you know we never self promote 

702
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,400
on the show almost to a fault. 
They want to say 600 people 

703
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,360
watching. 
Let's get get the likes numbers 

704
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:51,200
up here guys. 
I'll move on to my bag defending

705
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,480
player. 
This one is maybe a little too 

706
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,920
obvious, but I think in your 
more casual home leagues you 

707
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,440
could actually take action on 
this. 

708
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,280
Crystal Labe. 
So I get that other wide 

709
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,320
receivers going yeah, I get the 
other wide receivers that went 

710
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,560
near him in drafts, Nico 
Collins, Devante Adams, Malik 

711
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,760
neighbors, Marvin Harrison. 
They've had huge blow up games 

712
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,160
and Olave has not so that that 
sucks as a drafter. 

713
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,880
You haven't had that huge game 
yet, but his per route stats 21%

714
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,600
targets for outrun. 
That's not incredible, certainly

715
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,720
not horrible. 2.4 yards per out,
one through 2 weeks. 

716
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:30,840
That's extremely efficient. 
That'd be a, you know, top 15 

717
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,680
metric in NFL through a full 
season. 

718
00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:36,520
And like, the biggest storyline 
in the entire NFL right now is 

719
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,080
how Clint Kubiak or Clint 
Shanahan, as I call him, has 

720
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,280
turned Derek Carr into, like, 
Brock Purdy on steroids. 

721
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,760
Like Derek Carr, because I think
they've scored 15 times on 15 

722
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,720
offensive drives. 
It is true everyone is talking 

723
00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:54,440
about this in a way that is like
my whole Twitter timeline is way

724
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,120
too nerdy to be this locked in 
on Clint Kubiak, but it's all 

725
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,840
anyone's talking about. 
It's all anyone's talking about.

726
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,960
So we have who I think is still,
you know, Rashid Shahid, we can 

727
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,240
get to that conversation. 
I think he's a baller, he's a 

728
00:37:05,240 --> 00:37:07,120
player too. 
But I still think in Crystal 

729
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,120
Labe, we have the best offensive
weapon on the team. 

730
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,840
That's like the number one 
storyline in the NFL so far. 

731
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,600
And the box score results have 
not been there. 

732
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,320
So if you can buy low in your 
casual leagues or maybe in some 

733
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,560
of these best ball contests, if 
he's gone down around or so, I 

734
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,560
think, I think he's a huge, huge
buy. 

735
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,040
I think he's going to have 
massive weeks this season. 

736
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:32,040
Just zooming out on the chart 
and where the Saints offense is.

737
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,080
Give it to you, Crane on your 
thoughts on Crystal Labe. 

738
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,160
I love that one. 
Just that that's a great one. 

739
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,880
He's I mean it to me, it's a 
similar type of situation 

740
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,240
Stargans were making for Kelsey 
where it's like, hey, like this.

741
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:48,160
Do you want to be more invested 
in the Saints passing game than 

742
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,880
you were before or less right? 
You want to be more invested in 

743
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,400
the chiefs passing game or less 
like more Saints? 

744
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,160
Obviously, very, very obviously 
more invested in their passing 

745
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,080
game and the running game. 
I guess I mean, I would Camaro 

746
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,280
is really making my my fate on 
him look dumb. 

747
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,840
But 45% play action rate for 
Derek Carr. 

748
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:15,120
He was at 1414% last year. 
He went from the lowest play 

749
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,440
action rate in the league to the
highest play action rate in the 

750
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,000
league. 
It's been. 

751
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,440
I mean, that's not the only 
change they made, but I think, 

752
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,600
you know, sums up kind of the 
change in philosophy quite 

753
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,600
nicely. 
Like, let's get this guy moving 

754
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,600
around a little bit more, unlock
some bigger plays, you know, 

755
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,640
have the defense not be sure 
what we're going to do before we

756
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,880
do it. 
Seems pretty sharp. 

757
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,120
So, yeah, I mean, I don't, I 
didn't really necessarily fully 

758
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:47,000
buy the Week 1 performance. 
I thought they would probably 

759
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,480
struggle against this Cowboys 
defense that was going to be 

760
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,640
able to pressure them in a way 
that the Panthers really 

761
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,320
weren't. 
They did not. 

762
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,600
They did. 
They did run it through Camara 

763
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,240
more this week, which I thought 
they might do, but I thought 

764
00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:04,280
they might do it as like nothing
else is really working and it's 

765
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,400
going through Camara. 
But everything was working and 

766
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:11,040
Camara has the blow up game. 
Yeah. 

767
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,960
I mean, I think the Saints, 
they're just so much better 

768
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,960
design than they were. 
And so betting on their their 

769
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,240
number one receiver who's been a
little quiet so far, just as a 

770
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,280
sharp way to play it. 
Yeah, and it's only two weeks 

771
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,280
from the season. 
Long way to go. 

772
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,320
I'll make a prediction now. 
Clint Kubiak is gonna be one of 

773
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,760
the buzzier head coach 
candidates this next. 

774
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,240
Offseason. 
He's gonna be the mayor's head 

775
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:36,360
coach. 
Yeah, frankly, he should be the 

776
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,280
Saints head coach. 
Yeah, that. 

777
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,160
They should just fire Dennis 
Allen right now after going 2 

778
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,520
and O and blowing out both of 
his. 

779
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,920
Opponents it should man just. 
Fire him and hire Clint Kubiak. 

780
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,640
Cuz you're not. 
You have to do it because if 

781
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,880
Clint Kubiak has any other job, 
he's gonna take that job. 

782
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,080
I mean, the Saints are in cap 
hell. 

783
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,800
Like, you can't. 
You gotta get out of there if 

784
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,680
you can. 
But right now, if you offered 

785
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,280
him the job, he might take it. 
And then I'll just add this on 

786
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,080
the the Saints discussion, a lot
of people in the comments 

787
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,840
saying, you know, Kamara's the 
focal point, Shahid breaking 

788
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:05,960
out. 
That's a huge factor. 

789
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,720
I just really. 
Agree with that and how it 

790
00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:09,960
works. 
Here's the thing on good on good

791
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,280
offenses, you can have three 
very good fantasy assets. 

792
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,520
So like Shahid like. 
I'm sorry Shahid is not going to

793
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,160
score a 50 yard touchdown every 
week. 

794
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,520
What Alave does is much more 
replicable. 

795
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,840
He, he got tackled on the one 
inch line. 

796
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,560
Like it just drives me nuts, 
man. 

797
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,680
I, I, it's like this is the 
first year I've done fantasy 

798
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,760
content literally everyday and 
like interacted with the public.

799
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:39,000
And the the craziest thing to me
is just how like literally a 

800
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,920
foot being in bounds or a foot 
being in bounds just like 

801
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,120
affects the conversation for the
entire rest of the week. 

802
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,480
I, I do wish people honestly, I 
just wish people would watch 

803
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,560
every game. 
I think is actually what what 

804
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,960
I'm asking, but it drives me. 
It drives me nuts. 

805
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,480
Yeah. 
I mean, I think that, you know, 

806
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,960
and this is a great time of year
for this. 

807
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:03,320
It's like you, we want to not 
like zoom out completely, but 

808
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,960
like are, you know, if we're 
looking for more of a high level

809
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,280
perspective of are the Saints 
better than we thought? 

810
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,640
Yeah, they're definitely better.
But like in exactly this way, 

811
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,800
they're going to be better in 
Kamaras going to score 4 

812
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,080
touchdowns every week and 
Shahid's going to get get loose 

813
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,520
deep every week. 
Like no, like they, but they're 

814
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,760
doing things that are working. 
This goes from an offense that 

815
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,360
was kind of an afterthought in 
drafts to one that we want to be

816
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:28,440
invested in. 
I think. 

817
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,320
I mean, I think we want to be 
invested in the Saints offense. 

818
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,520
Like it's crazy as as that felt,
you know, a month ago. 

819
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:38,160
I I did it. 
What is my truth serum? 

820
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,320
I was like, I think the Saints 
are like fine backdoor stacks, 

821
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,880
but I wasn't like the Saints are
going to go nuts. 

822
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:44,680
You know, that would have been 
crazy. 

823
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,600
It's always just so tough on how
much to trust the coach, change 

824
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,160
stuff. 
Like I, I had the Kubiak thesis 

825
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,240
in my mind all offseason, but I 
can't say I was like 100% all in

826
00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:56,840
on it. 
Like I, I wasn't, I don't have 

827
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,520
30% Derek Carr or whatever. 
Like I was somewhat in. 

828
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,000
Our last show, our last show of 
the of the of the season, you 

829
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,520
were like, why don't we just 
take Saints? 

830
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:11,160
Why don't we just take Saints 
Backdoors and I, Yeah, boy, let 

831
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,560
me tell you, I've got a lot of 
Patriots and Broncos backdoors 

832
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,000
that I would love to trade. 
Dude I would trade it in for car

833
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:24,400
AT Perry at this point. 
What about Andrew Miller Carr. 

834
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,600
Carr could. 
Literally, literally literally 

835
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,920
car in a player on the IR. 
Yeah. 

836
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,920
I don't know if you could get, I
don't know if you could get a 

837
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,040
Sutton mix for a car AT Perry. 
I don't know if you're getting 

838
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,480
that deal. 
I had I had Cortland Sutton 

839
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,480
higher 37 1/2 receiving yards in
like every underdog like 

840
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:47,040
picamentary yesterday and just 
was miserable watching Bo Nick 

841
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,840
drop back to pass. 
I mean, that's you should never 

842
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,520
do anything that makes you watch
Bo Nicks. 

843
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,640
That's I've learned. 
Two weeks in, I've learned that.

844
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,120
You can't. 
The Broncos are most they aren't

845
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,920
even unwashable in like a fun 
way. 

846
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,560
It's not like the the Will Levis
experience where he's doing 

847
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,520
crazy shit out there. 
It's Bo Nicks, just like 

848
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,520
checking down and like. 
It's like, it's like every time.

849
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,520
Squad receivers of all time 
catching the ball like just the 

850
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,640
slowest guys. 
Every time they they would cut 

851
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,360
to Steelers Broncos, they're on 
red zone. 

852
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,560
Last night it was just like, 
what? 

853
00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:19,320
What are we hoping to have 
happen here? 

854
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,800
Like can we just watch the 
Cardinals? 

855
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,920
Can we just watch anything other
than this is? 

856
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:29,600
I'd rather watch Matt Stafford 
had like his worst game in 15 

857
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,240
years in the NFL yesterday. 
And like, I'd rather watch Matt 

858
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:35,360
Stafford fumble in the pocket 
trying to complete passes to 

859
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,400
Tyler Johnson then watch one 
more second above next. 

860
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,680
Yeah, don't we have any like 
cringy Rob Groncaste commercials

861
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,000
or something, Something to watch
instead of the the Broncos? 

862
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,480
Like I'll I'll watch anything 
instead of Bonex. 

863
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,240
All right, it's very it's it's 
kind of Bryce Young, you know, 

864
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,480
or Bryce Young last year, I 
guess, but he's sort of playing 

865
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,920
a little different this year. 
It's still bad, but it's like 

866
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:59,600
he's, he's trying to do 
conservative things and then 

867
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,400
it's not, it's taking he's. 
Literally not good enough to 

868
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:07,280
complete like 5 yard slants. 
Yeah, yeah. 

869
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,800
So I got to keep keeping us on 
track here. 

870
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,120
That the Bonex stuff? 
Yeah, that's maybe a future 

871
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,440
discussion. 
I'll give it to you. 

872
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:14,800
Crane, I don't think you've 
done. 

873
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,160
You're back defending yet. 
What do you got? 

874
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,280
Jalen Warren, baby. 
Jalen Warren. 

875
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,160
We're back. 
We're back now. 

876
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,320
Are we back in the box score or 
not really? 

877
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,560
That's OK, though. 
Last week I, you know, everyone 

878
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,080
tagging me and you know, 
gentleman Warren's dead. 

879
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,760
Oh man, what a bad take. 
Jayla Warren, He's going to have

880
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,960
a 13 criticism. 
My burner accounts just to do 

881
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,040
that to. 
You Yeah, Sam was just trolling 

882
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,520
me with all these different 
burners. 

883
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,360
He was recovering from a 
hamstring injury, as it turns 

884
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,640
out, which I which I was hoping 
was the case. 

885
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,240
I notice I didn't take him as my
bag defending last week because 

886
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:53,520
I was like, I would really like 
to see him play more. 

887
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,680
In week two. 
He did play more Dan Naji 

888
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,920
Harris. 
He played 48% of the snaps. 

889
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,120
Naji Harris at 45% of the snaps.
Harris got a lot more work. 

890
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,360
Harris they're still leaning on 
in in the early down, you know, 

891
00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:10,600
but not all the time that, you 
know, Warren's getting series. 

892
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,760
It's somewhat similar to last 
year. 

893
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,960
It's more tilted toward Harris 
than we want, but we're back to 

894
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,400
kind of like what we thought the
play was in the 1st place. 

895
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,120
So like it's a split backfield. 
Warren's going to get more of 

896
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,840
the receiving stuff. 
Harris is going to get more of 

897
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,680
the early down stuff. 
Cordell Patterson had a 6% 

898
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,000
snapshare. 
He's back to not being involved,

899
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,520
which is a big deal. 
We need this to be a two man 

900
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,760
thing and now we just bet on the
more talented player. 

901
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,000
So we're back to that. 
The Steelers offense, not as fun

902
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,360
as maybe it could have been, or 
maybe it just never was going to

903
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,800
be fun under Arthur Smith. 
That's maybe the part that does 

904
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,880
look worse. 
But as far as kind of the the 

905
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:56,720
thesis of the play, we're back 
to the thesis of the play being 

906
00:45:56,720 --> 00:46:01,080
intact, I think. 
Yeah, and the Arthur Smith 

907
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,200
stuff, I want to give him some 
credit. 

908
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,960
Like he knows his opponents. 
In weeks one and two it was the 

909
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,560
Falcons with, you know, one 
legged Kurt Cousins and the 

910
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,840
Broncos with Bo Nicks. 
Maybe the offense gets a little 

911
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,320
bit more creative when they 
actually have to score points. 

912
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,280
Like I think they well. 
Surely they're going to score 

913
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,080
points against the Chargers this
week, right? 

914
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:27,080
Surely that'll be a really high.
But what is the rest? 

915
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,560
Of their schedule. 
This is ridiculous. 

916
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,280
Yeah, like somehow it's going to
be the other sixteen lowest 

917
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,160
scoring teams in in the NFL, 
dude. 

918
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:39,160
When when Russ felt his cat, his
sore calf, then he he checked 

919
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,200
the schedule. 
I was just like, Oh no, Oh no, 

920
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,760
they're going to be able to 
score 13. 

921
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,760
Points a week. 
I wish there was a big Russell 

922
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,240
Wilson guy in our community that
we could all be making fun of 

923
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:51,880
this. 
It's not you. 

924
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,560
Look at him. 
He's he's right here. 

925
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:03,040
I made the Justin Fields bet 
before I knew it required me to 

926
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,120
root for. 
Russell Wilson. 

927
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,880
It was never a bro Russell 
Wilson bet it just landed that 

928
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,560
way. 
You can check my exposures, 

929
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,880
which I actually have no idea 
what they are, but in my head, 

930
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:19,880
in my head it's like 7% Justin 
Fields in DraftKings, 0% Russell

931
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,640
Wilson. 
Now I think I have like 1% 

932
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,600
Russell Wilson, but here, here's
a bad take for you, Davis. 

933
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,720
This was kind of running around 
in my head in the offseason. 

934
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,800
Isn't Jalen Warren's upside case
a lot better with Russ at QB 

935
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,640
than than Justin Fields or 
checkdowns? 

936
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,760
Yeah, yeah. 
Goal line check. 

937
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,240
We all, I think we all sort of 
realize that. 

938
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,400
Because the I always thought the
Jalen Warren thesis like relied 

939
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,960
pretty heavily on the receiving.
You kind of need Russ for that 

940
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,000
over fields, don't you? 
He relies somewhat on the 

941
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,000
receiving, but it relies on him 
also being a good, like a really

942
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,720
good runner. 
So, but I think I agree with 

943
00:47:55,720 --> 00:47:56,960
you. 
I think his upside's a little 

944
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,720
higher with Russ got dude, they 
get the Colts in week four. 

945
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,240
Oh my God, it's over dude. 
It's over. 

946
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:06,400
It's the Steelers are going to 
be 4 and O and they're going to 

947
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,800
have scored 24 points, 0 
touchdowns, 0 touchdowns. 

948
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,760
I did the same thing. 0 
touchdowns. 

949
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,880
I did the same thing with the 
Chargers when I was trying to be

950
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,560
like, oh, Justin Herbert's going
to have better weeks. 

951
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,960
Like, surely they're playing 
like one good offense this 

952
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,560
season, and it's like they play 
the Panthers like five times 

953
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:24,840
over the next seven weeks. 
I'm like, what? 

954
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,800
Is that legal? 
Yeah, is. 

955
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,560
This possibly legal? 
Like they they literally have 0.

956
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:30,880
Good. 
Dude. 

957
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:35,680
Their schedule's so easy. 
They get they get the Chargers, 

958
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,880
Colts, then the Cowboys, but 
that doesn't look as as bad as 

959
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,600
it was. 
The Raiders, The Jets, the 

960
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,000
Giants, and then they get the 
Commanders after the Week 9. 

961
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,800
By then it gets a little harder 
after that, but man, there's 

962
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,160
like they might not lose more 
than a couple games before 

963
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:52,720
they're by Oh. 
God. 

964
00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:57,200
They might lose 1 like they 
might seriously, they could beat

965
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,040
the Chargers, the Colts, they'll
probably lose the the Cowboys, 

966
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,680
they'll probably lose The Jets. 
So there you go. 

967
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,720
They're they're six and two 
heading into the by. 

968
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,120
Yeah, Steelers. 
Steelers are going to be in the,

969
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:12,080
you know, that Saturday, 1:00 PM
wild card game and just get 

970
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,640
absolutely blown. 
Out by the Buffalo Bills. 

971
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,440
Yeah, just you can already 
pencil that in if you want to 

972
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:18,800
play some some future bets on 
that. 

973
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,000
All right, we'll move on here. 
Steelers defense Mega chalk in 

974
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,600
the FFPC? 
Yes. 

975
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,800
Yeah. 
The mega chalk for Steelers 

976
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:31,720
defense. 
Oh man, we'll move on here to 

977
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,760
panic button takes. 
I'll I'll go first. 

978
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,080
I I stopped Davis from talking 
too much about Sam LaPorte here 

979
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,640
because he's my panic button 
player. 

980
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,800
First of all, I want to say on 
the positive side, like please 

981
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,360
interpret this correctly. 
I'm not saying Sam Laporta is 

982
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,480
some kind of like Dead Fantasy 
asset. 

983
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,840
He's still a top six tight end 
for me, but I think. 

984
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,000
He was the tight end 1. 
He was the 30th overall pick. 

985
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,000
Exactly. 
Yeah. 

986
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,680
So you know, I I ended up, I was
not in on Sam Laporta. 

987
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,680
I did end up with him in some 
manage stuff. 

988
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,480
I'm in some like industry 
leagues where he went later than

989
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,840
expected, actually took him in 
FPC main event where he went way

990
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,680
past ADP. 
So I did get some exposure to 

991
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:17,200
him and I think like as as Davis
was pointing out earlier, I 

992
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:22,000
think the Jameson Williams and 
Jameer Gibbs year 2 leaps are 

993
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,560
just coming at the expense of 
Sam Laporta. 

994
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,560
Like you watch this version of 
Jameson Williams in the offense 

995
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,600
and it's easy to understand how 
Sam Laporta only gets like 2 

996
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,920
targets on 50 routes last week. 
Like Jameson Williams is the guy

997
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,280
you want with the ball in his 
hands in the open field over Sam

998
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,480
Laporta. 
If it's that binary of a choice,

999
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,280
I think we've just gotten to a 
point where like these, they 

1000
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,000
just assembled a really talented
offense. 

1001
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,560
Jameson Williams looks really 
good. 

1002
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,960
I'll happily take that on that. 
I think he looks awesome out 

1003
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,160
there. 
Jameer Gibbs, really explosive 

1004
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,440
player. 
Monroe St. 

1005
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,720
Brown is still going to do a 
Monroe stuff. 

1006
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,400
And I think Laporta. 
It's just that that case of him 

1007
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,240
being like the clear #2 in the 
offense or taking a leap in Year

1008
00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:05,640
2. 
I just don't see how it happens.

1009
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,200
I think on the positive side, 
you know, zooming way out, we're

1010
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,040
still talking about the Lions. 
We're still talking about a Ben 

1011
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,680
Johnson offense. 
Like I'm not too upset if I have

1012
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,720
a piece of that, but I just 
don't really see the ceiling 

1013
00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:21,920
here for Sam Laporta, you know, 
where he was drafted at ADPI 

1014
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:26,120
think, you know, Bowers 70 picks
later, Kittle 40 picks later or 

1015
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,000
whatever. 
Those look like way better bets 

1016
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,080
to me, which is kind of the 
thesis of the fade for me and 

1017
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,800
bestball. 
So yeah, not not full blown 

1018
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,240
panic, but I think the the 
upside case for Sam Laporta like

1019
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:40,840
now almost requires an injury to
one of these other pass 

1020
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,120
catchers. 
Or he just has to run Gigahot on

1021
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,320
touchdowns. 
He's got score. 

1022
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,480
He's got score on 13 touchdowns.
But even the touchdowns case 

1023
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,480
like David Montgomery is like 
one of the best goal line backs 

1024
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,160
in the like it just it can't 
happen. 

1025
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,920
Touchdown flukiness like can 
always happen like you shouldn't

1026
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,600
try to over predict that. 
But even that side of it, like I

1027
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,680
don't think you get into the red
zone and you're like Sam Laporta

1028
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,320
is the one guy we have here. 
Like they, they have options all

1029
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,000
across the board. 
So yeah, he he's a guy I would 

1030
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,560
move pretty, you know, 2020 
spots down the rankings from 

1031
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:12,960
where he was drafted, something 
like that. 

1032
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:17,160
Still still a top five, six 
round player probably, but not a

1033
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,160
guy I'm pumped. 
I took, you know, in the third 

1034
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:24,320
round. 
Yeah, yeah, No, I, I, I, I wrote

1035
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,040
about that this week. 
It's just like basically Jameson

1036
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,880
Williams is not a bit, if he's 
not, you know, Cadarius, Tony, 

1037
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,640
that moves Laporta from being 
like a 22% target share guy to a

1038
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,880
17% target share guy. 
And there are 1,000,017% target 

1039
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,760
share guys, you know, Hunter, 
Hunter Henry, I guess not Dalton

1040
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:47,440
Schultz, you know, just like 
Gerald Everett, you know, like, 

1041
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:55,880
like obviously Laporta is 
obviously better than those 

1042
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,360
guys. 
And they're going to play, you 

1043
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,920
know, 16 Dome games in a row or 
whatever. 

1044
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,240
And like he, I think he'll be 
fine. 

1045
00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:06,120
But yeah, he's just not going to
be the highest scoring tight end

1046
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,840
in fantasy if Jameson is. 
Jameson now has 20 targets for 

1047
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,760
two weeks like. 
Yeah, dude, he's just it's. 

1048
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,400
Just not happening. 
He's flipped. 

1049
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,640
He's flipped the switch like 
again, I'll like, admit how 

1050
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,160
wrong I was here on Jameson. 
I ended up like 4% of him. 

1051
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,440
Again, I made that up because 
that makes me feel better. 

1052
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,840
Probably lower, but ended up 
with 4%, Ended up with 4% of 

1053
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,560
him. 
Dude, he's just, he's just good.

1054
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,160
And they're scheming up, like 
scheming him up way differently 

1055
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,720
than they did the past two 
years. 

1056
00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:38,040
Like it's you can basically toss
that data out from the first two

1057
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:39,280
years. 
Like I'm ready to throw that 

1058
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,600
away at this point. 
Like, that doesn't matter. 

1059
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,240
It's a different situation. 
Yeah. 

1060
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,440
He looks really good. 
I mean, he's I think the thing 

1061
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,280
that's that's concerning if 
you're Laporta or if you're, you

1062
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,040
know, if you have Laporta bags, 
is that what does Laporta do for

1063
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,880
the offense that Amin Ross St. 
Brown doesn't do for the 

1064
00:53:58,880 --> 00:53:59,960
offense? 
Right. 

1065
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,440
It's all kind of the similar 
short area stuff. 

1066
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:07,960
He's probably, you know, better 
around the goal line, but Amin 

1067
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,640
Ross kind of just a better 
version of the Laporta target. 

1068
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,920
Jameson unlocks a whole new 
element to the offense like that

1069
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,240
deep threat and and also just 
the ability to like get moving 

1070
00:54:19,240 --> 00:54:21,560
over the middle of the field And
he's like super fast now. 

1071
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,760
Like there's lots of different 
things you can do with Jameson 

1072
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,880
Williams that really adds an 
element to the offense in a way 

1073
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,280
that like reporter is very good.
He's pretty good after the 

1074
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:35,080
catch, but he's not doing like 
they have almond raw. 

1075
00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:38,840
Like almond raw is kind of going
to always be the number one 

1076
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,760
target earner in the short area 
of the field and probably the 

1077
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:47,480
intermediary field too. 
So it's just it he was all yeah,

1078
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:52,360
this it's very it's very 
damaging because they now have 

1079
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:56,600
like a secondary option and 
Williams that by being the 

1080
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,720
secondary option, I think makes 
the offense better. 

1081
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,720
Exactly. 100% agree on that 
Davis. 

1082
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:08,760
Any final points on La Porta? 
Otherwise, move on to your panic

1083
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,880
button player this week. 
Yeah, I'm trying to decide my 

1084
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,960
panic. 
One of them was it's too insular

1085
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,320
to best ball and there's nothing
we can do about it now. 

1086
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,800
But it is the Denver Broncos. 
This idea like, oh, you just 

1087
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,080
take one of the Denver Broncos 
running backs every time. 

1088
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,680
You're going to get all these 
expected points, the expected 

1089
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,240
points. 
I mean, maybe they will get the 

1090
00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:29,720
expected points, but there's not
going to be any actual points 

1091
00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:33,520
there because Bonex is too ass. 
I think a more helpful and 

1092
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,480
useful take for people who are 
still playing or are going to be

1093
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,880
drafting moving forward will be 
the Rams are actually going to 

1094
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,080
have the season that the haters 
thought they were going to have 

1095
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,120
last year. 
Remember, coming into last year,

1096
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:48,040
part part of the reason, part of
the reason why, you know, Kyron 

1097
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,960
was going undrafted was like, 
oh, Stafford's going to retire. 

1098
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,320
He's got this wrist injury. 
McVeigh might retire. 

1099
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,320
Aaron Donald just retired. 
Like all this stuff. 

1100
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,600
And they actually kind of pulled
it out and had a decent season. 

1101
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,080
It's it's all happening now. 
I mean, it's it's over cups 

1102
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,200
going on the IR, Pook is on the 
IR. 

1103
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,160
You've got 36 year old Matt 
Stafford with Tyler Johnson, 

1104
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,520
DeMarcus Robinson, A22 Atwell 
and Colby Parkinson. 

1105
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:15,640
Like, oh, Kyron Williams, He's 
going to be dude, it's not 

1106
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,240
happening for Kyron. 
It's, it's, it's Siberia, man. 

1107
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,160
It, it's over. 
Like they're all send them all 

1108
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,560
to 0. 
It's, it's not, it's, it's not 

1109
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,600
going to happen for the for the 
Rams. 

1110
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,880
It looks bad, it looks really 
bad. 

1111
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:37,720
And yeah, I actually 1st is my 
Internet breaking out? 

1112
00:56:37,720 --> 00:56:38,840
I lost you. 
Guys, it did. 

1113
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,840
It did for a second. 
It did give us the wheel for a 

1114
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,360
second, but you're back. 
OK, I'm back. 

1115
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:46,160
OK, I want to say this pretty 
carefully because I think 

1116
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,440
victory lapping injured players 
is like one of the most annoying

1117
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,200
things people do. 
Don't do it in the fantasy 

1118
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,080
space, but. 6th round rookie 
from Texas. 

1119
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,640
But but dot dot dot, that's all 
I'll say. 

1120
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,000
That's all I'll say. 
No, you. 

1121
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,480
Shouldn't you should have just 
said target Cliff? 

1122
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,040
You should have just said target
Cliff and move target Cliff. 

1123
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,480
I I was texting back and forth 
with bro to Pat last night. 

1124
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,560
I'm like there's a there's a 
target Cliff joke out there. 

1125
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,200
I'm I'm not brave enough to do 
it. 

1126
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,000
They don't want to take it. 
No man, but like seriously, like

1127
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,920
aging player. 
This is part of the thesis of 

1128
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,360
like aging players coming off 
injuries and again, like the cup

1129
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,640
thing could have totally. 
He wasn't like high luck injury,

1130
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,600
though. 
He was coming off. 

1131
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:37,680
He was coming off a season where
he was banged up the entire year

1132
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,360
and was like playing the whole 
year. 

1133
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,880
I don't know if I would classify
he was coming off a season that 

1134
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,400
had been marred by injuries, but
he was completely healthy all 

1135
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:46,600
offseason. 
I mean 30. 

1136
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,320
To Sam's point though, 31 year 
olds just get hurt. 

1137
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:50,880
Yeah. 
I'm saying like if you're 

1138
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,440
building any reasonable model of
like predicting injuries like 

1139
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,760
age, that's a big factor. 
That's ankle. 

1140
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:57,880
Sprain. 
No one's. 

1141
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,040
No one's susceptible to high 
ankle sprains from dudes rolling

1142
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:02,080
up on them. 
Like that's not. 

1143
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,560
Guys who've had lots of soft 
tissue and lower body injuries 

1144
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,120
are more likely. 
Hamstrings, hamstrings and 

1145
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,080
ankles. 
Hamstrings and ankles. 

1146
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,080
That's what we're talking about 
here. 

1147
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,520
If he pulled his handy, you'd 
have a much stronger case here. 

1148
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,680
This is a this is this can 
happen to anybody. 

1149
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,320
Just just happen to Pacheco 
because he's a year old. 

1150
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,360
I just I just don't buy that 
like Cooper cop and Malik 

1151
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,920
neighbors have the same like 
injury risk going into the 

1152
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,280
season when one of them's like 
32 and others 23. 

1153
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,320
Like I just I just don't believe
that's that's true. 

1154
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,880
Like it does. 
It's not about exactly how it 

1155
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,240
happened for me. 
It's just like. 

1156
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,680
I think it should matter if 
you're, if you're bringing it up

1157
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,240
as relevant, it should matter 
how it happened. 

1158
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:52,040
The the Cooper Cup getting a 
high ankle strain was never more

1159
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,360
likely because he's he's older. 
A high ankle sprain is something

1160
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,000
that happens to you because of a
tackle. 

1161
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,440
This isn't even like a, it's 
like. 

1162
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,560
This is like this is like tank 
Dell getting rolled up on run 

1163
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:04,560
block. 
Yeah, it just happened. 

1164
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:10,400
This is This is extraordinarily 
thin, like you're it didn't have

1165
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,400
anything to do with his age. 
Him getting hurt did not have 

1166
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,440
anything to do with his age. 
In fact, him the age thing 

1167
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,600
looked pretty bad because he was
clearly still going to be the 

1168
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,320
engine of the offense if he 
stayed healthy despite being. 

1169
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,760
I think I Sam, I think you did 
get bailed out a little bit, let

1170
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,240
me say. 
Got bailed the fuck out. 

1171
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,560
No. 
He was like on a per target 

1172
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,880
basis, like through two games, 
he was like one of the most 

1173
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,920
inefficient. 
How many and on how many 

1174
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,560
targets, Sam, on how many 
targets? 

1175
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,880
You don't think that like? 
The fucking duck name and how 

1176
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,880
many targets and aging how many 
targets? 

1177
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:49,800
Sam player that gets hit. 
A ton does not have a higher 

1178
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:54,480
injury risk than a younger 
player with no medical history 

1179
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,120
like I. 
I just 100% we're just not 

1180
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,840
coming. 
On this like you're, you're kind

1181
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,040
of doing this thing where you 
want to make it about, do older 

1182
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,360
players have a higher injury 
risk than younger players? 

1183
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,160
Like, yeah, they do, they do OK,
they do. 

1184
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:12,000
But like to bring up that. 
That you were right to be fading

1185
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,800
Cooper Cup and now he's injured 
as if those two things are 

1186
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,160
related because of his age. 
They're not. 

1187
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,480
He got this particular injury 
has nothing to do with him being

1188
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,800
older. 
This this is a stupid. 

1189
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,560
Argument that you lap on a high 
ankle sprain for cup like that 

1190
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:30,440
is, I'm saying, fucking stupid. 
This has nothing to do like 

1191
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:31,880
this. 
Let me make a point. 

1192
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,720
Make a point in Sam's favor. 
I'm going to make a point in 

1193
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,160
Sam's favor. 
I think Sam is wrong that he got

1194
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:43,360
hurt because he was injured. 
But what Sam is correct about is

1195
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,840
that if you have a high ankle 
sprain at 31, your recovery is 

1196
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,240
not going to be like when you're
24. 

1197
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,960
Sure, I'll give you that. 
I'll give you that. 

1198
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,400
Yeah. 
Now that he's hurt, it's it 

1199
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,600
sucks that he's old. 
Now that he's hurt, it sucks 

1200
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:58,320
that he's old. 
Yeah. 

1201
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,800
I love, I love yelling at each 
other on the show. 

1202
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,560
The point I'm just trying to 
make and the point I was saying 

1203
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:06,120
all offseason is that like cup, 
Cup sealing, that was 

1204
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,400
undeniable. 
But if you weren't factoring in 

1205
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,080
like increased downside risk for
him due to his profile, his age,

1206
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,680
his history of injuries, I think
that was wrong. 

1207
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,800
Our job is to make bets and like
cup. 

1208
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,040
Well, don't you think so? 
Cup clear Cup clearly. 

1209
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:20,800
Can you just let me wait? 
Just let me just point. 

1210
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,560
Cup clearly had a pash, a path 
to just smashing me and make me 

1211
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,920
look like an idiot. 
Like that was always on the 

1212
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,560
table. 
But I think our job is to like 

1213
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,640
make bets with these guys and I 
think he had much higher 

1214
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,800
downside risk than other guys 
going near him. 

1215
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,160
That that was my point of the 
season, the process. 

1216
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,720
They stuff like I got lucky. 
He rolled his. 

1217
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,840
Ankle you got extraordinarily 
lucky I think and I and so did 

1218
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,640
I. 
I was not really taking cup is I

1219
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,520
think cup pretty clearly was one
of the worst price players in 

1220
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:54,120
the pool in a in that he should 
have been going higher. 

1221
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:55,880
Cup should have been going a lot
higher. 

1222
01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:00,160
Like I did not think that cup 
heading into like week one, 

1223
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:01,760
right? 
You got Puka. 

1224
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,360
He goes out with injury, but 
like from the jump we were like,

1225
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,920
oh shit, the season where he's 
just like the clear engine, the 

1226
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,080
offense with Puka on the field 
is in play. 

1227
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,040
Like I thought after the way 
last year finished with the 

1228
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,160
playoff game and everything and 
Puka coming on and he's the 

1229
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:19,640
second year player and cups 
aging. 

1230
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:24,600
I was like the upside case for 
cup is good but not amazing and 

1231
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:29,480
very clearly we saw that the no 
no no, he leads all wide 

1232
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,880
receivers and targets. 
Even if Puka stays healthy, is 

1233
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,400
is possible? 
Corrine, let me let me ask you a

1234
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:36,680
question. 
Let me ask you A. 

1235
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,080
Question. 
We were making too much downside

1236
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,640
if that was the case. 
Let's say he doesn't get injured

1237
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,440
yesterday. 
He he, he plays that game and he

1238
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:48,680
finishes with six for 65. 
I don't think we're and I was a 

1239
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,080
big, I was more of a cup guy 
than I, I more than you. 

1240
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,560
I mean, he was, I was, I was 
drafting him the whole time. 

1241
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,560
Are you, are we feeling pretty 
bad about Cooper Cup after 

1242
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,120
watching them play that game 
yesterday? 

1243
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,600
Just being like, this team just 
doesn't have the horses. 

1244
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:02,600
It's just. 
It's just. 

1245
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,880
Not that that's part of my 
perspective. 

1246
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,280
I don't think we would. 
I mean, frankly, I would, I 

1247
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,560
guess my answer would be no. 
I mean, he's disappointing as 

1248
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:14,000
like Mega chalk and you know, 
DFS and everything and we're 

1249
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,360
like wow, them getting like 
completely blown out by the 

1250
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:22,040
Cardinals is not good. 
But I think maybe you would be 

1251
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,280
more worried about their running
back who doesn't catch a ton of 

1252
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,400
passes than the wide receiver 
who just gets peppered targets, 

1253
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,680
you know? 
What I mean Kyron, by the way, 

1254
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,760
they just started every drive 
with a -1 yard run. 

1255
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,800
Every drive was like Kyron 
Williams for -1 yards, right? 

1256
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,520
Yeah, I. 
Guess I mean he he got 21 

1257
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,000
targets in League One man. 
He got 21 targets. 

1258
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,200
Like yeah, 20. 21 yard targets 
for 70 yards is pretty cool, but

1259
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:47,320
you're still going to lose every
game. 

1260
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,400
He had 110 yards and a 
touchdown. 

1261
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,040
So I don't know. 
I mean, I just we're not we 

1262
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,200
don't play in like points per 
did your team win leagues? 

1263
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,240
You know what I mean? 
Like I just it seems we're 

1264
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,400
backwards here. 
We're bending over backwards. 

1265
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,640
Cupp was clearly one of the 
better picks on the board at at 

1266
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,000
price. 
I mean he was going in the late 

1267
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,520
3rd at times like you're talking
about. 

1268
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:08,920
We didn't bake it enough 
downside. 

1269
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:14,360
Like this dude showed that he 
could still return to just 

1270
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:19,160
getting just being the true 
number one in an offense he. 

1271
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,840
Did he did really prove the 
breakfast narrative? 

1272
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,320
He did prove that when he did 
prove that when Stafford is like

1273
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,720
having a bad day, he's just 
going to be like, well, fuck it,

1274
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:28,920
I'm just going to give Cooper 
the ball. 

1275
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,280
And if we lose, we lose. 
He stays healthy, he's going to 

1276
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:35,400
out produce Jamar Chase like 
this, this, this idea that like 

1277
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,640
we didn't bake in enough 
downside risk like we did. 

1278
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,120
We baked in a lot. 
Actually, we baked in a lot of 

1279
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:44,480
downside risk compared to the 
upside case that to be clear, I 

1280
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,720
was not in on. 
I did not think that that that 

1281
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,320
upside case was intact with Puka
Nakua there. 

1282
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,240
Now puka going out helped. 
You know, he doesn't rack up 21 

1283
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:55,800
targets in week 1 if puka's on 
the field. 

1284
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:59,880
But like still like he was even 
with puka on the field, he was 

1285
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:03,040
already, you know, showing. 
I was like, uh oh, because I had

1286
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,920
a lot of puka I was in on. 
I was in on the Puka's the year 

1287
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,160
2 guy, he's going to merge also 
hurt, by the way, I don't know 

1288
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,600
if you know this Puka's actually
younger than Cooper, Cooper Cup 

1289
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,040
and hurt his knee. 
So it does. 

1290
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:18,160
Young players can get hurt too. 
But like, I just didn't think 

1291
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:22,240
that that cup kind of reclaiming
the mantle from a healthy Puka 

1292
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,240
was like even I mean, I'm like, 
come on, that's going to happen.

1293
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,680
And I think I think it would 
have happened. 

1294
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,840
I guess it's all we we don't 
really know, but it looked like 

1295
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:31,880
that's the way things were 
headed. 

1296
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,480
Yeah, those are good points. 
And I think honestly with the 

1297
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:40,160
cup stuff, like I think when you
say he was going 3-4 turn a part

1298
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,480
of the offseason, that was that 
was wrong for sure. 

1299
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,360
You know, he he was underpriced 
there when he was going by the 

1300
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,320
end of the season. 
I pick 14/15/16 on DraftKings. 

1301
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,200
In my opinion, that was also 
very wrong. 

1302
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,680
And I think Crane, you were with
me at that at the time at least.

1303
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,240
I don't know where you you'd say
no, no, I but. 

1304
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,920
I was with, I mean, I never was 
hammering cup like I yeah, I 

1305
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,760
think I ended up like 5 or 6%. 
I wasn't like fully fading him. 

1306
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,160
This isn't a I was right about 
cup. 

1307
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,400
Why weren't you with me? 
Yeah, I was at 6%. 

1308
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,320
No, yeah, I'm not saying that's 
what you're saying. 

1309
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,360
So I'm the only one with skin in
the game who got impacted by 

1310
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:15,440
this? 
Well, fuck you guys. 

1311
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,760
This is a classic. 
Crane and I yell at each other 

1312
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,960
for 30 minutes. 
We have the same exposure. 

1313
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,120
Have the identical exposure to 
Cooper Cop. 

1314
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:27,360
It's about it's about updating 
our priors. 

1315
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,800
I think to me you've updated 
your priors in a very 

1316
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:35,400
self-serving direction and I 
think that we should we were 

1317
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,080
wrong. 
We were just wrong on cop like 

1318
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,520
he he he had a lot more upside 
than I thought he did. 

1319
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,480
Yeah, I, I, I disagree with 
that, but we got to move on 

1320
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,360
here, Crane, you're panic button
player. 

1321
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:53,880
Well, now that I've yelled at 
you and called your take really 

1322
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:58,240
stupid, I'll I'll give you a 
little bit of you know, this is 

1323
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:02,320
an apology take. 
I'm going to say panic button on

1324
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:06,000
Kamati Meidel. 
Your your boy JK Dobbins victory

1325
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:07,800
lap last week. 
Could not disagree more with 

1326
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,280
this Corrine. 
Because here's the thing. 

1327
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:10,840
Here's the thing about JK 
Dobbins. 

1328
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,840
He just looks really good and I 
Gus Edwards looks like ass. 

1329
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,840
So like, I'm not sure that this 
is like the Chargers are running

1330
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:21,480
the ball well. 
Immaterial. 

1331
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,480
Immaterial. 
I think Dobbins is just like the

1332
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:28,120
dude, like we we bet we were 
like OK, uncertain backfield. 

1333
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,800
We got to find the uncertain 
backfields and then we got to 

1334
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,160
take. 
Now we can't take JK Dobbins 

1335
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,320
because he's going to be totally
dust. 

1336
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,040
So we got to we got to take a 
sixth round rookie, right? 

1337
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,760
We got to take Gus Edwards, who 
stinks, but we can't take JK 

1338
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,320
Dobbins. 
I don't know. 

1339
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:48,040
I just think like what JK 
Dobbins is doing is, is just 

1340
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:52,240
really impressive right now and 
what like what what are we even,

1341
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,040
you know, through injury? 
I guess we could get by Dell 

1342
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:58,280
later in the year. 
But like we over, we maybe over 

1343
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,880
thought this one by Dell 6 round
rookie versus the guy they said 

1344
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:03,280
was going to be a big part of 
their offense. 

1345
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,560
Feel like we should have taken 
that guy. 

1346
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,520
No. 
So This is why you're wrong. 

1347
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:12,360
You're wrong for three reasons. 
So the first reason you're wrong

1348
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,800
is that Gus stinks. 
Harbaugh's only going to 

1349
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,720
tolerate a running back stinking
behind his offensive line for so

1350
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,560
long. 
The second reason you're wrong 

1351
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,600
is that these running backs that
they've had active over him have

1352
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,080
not played on offense at all. 
I actually literally do not know

1353
01:08:26,279 --> 01:08:29,439
if it's Jarrett Patterson or 
Hassan Hacken, Hassan Haskins, 

1354
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,120
but they've only been active for
special teams. 

1355
01:08:32,319 --> 01:08:35,600
And the third reason you're 
wrong is that there was a little

1356
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,080
bit of implosion risk for the 
Chargers with this. 

1357
01:08:38,279 --> 01:08:40,200
I thought of being like, 
Harbaugh just doesn't. 

1358
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,120
Harbaugh doesn't know the NFL 
game. 

1359
01:08:42,279 --> 01:08:45,920
Greg Roman gets kicked out of 
every like by by like Greg Roman

1360
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,920
just almost ends up being bad. 
All that is not true. 

1361
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,040
They're great running the ball. 
The offensive line is great. 

1362
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,240
The vibes are high. 
They're two and O Herbert seems 

1363
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:55,840
happy. 
It's all good. 

1364
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,279
Edwards is going to 0. 
Videl will be active now. 

1365
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:03,560
Maybe Videl won't be active till
week 5, but it's it's definitely

1366
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,880
it's definitely happening. 
Yeah. 

1367
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,200
That that is I I really disagree
with this panic button. 

1368
01:09:09,319 --> 01:09:11,000
I hope, I hope you're right. 
I hope you're right. 

1369
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:12,720
I have a lot of, I have a lot of
idol. 

1370
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,319
So yeah, be nice. 
I have a lot of idol too, and I 

1371
01:09:15,319 --> 01:09:18,680
also want to be clear that like 
me victory dot lapping Dobbins 

1372
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:23,200
last week I was not I was more 
in on Vidal than Dobbins. 

1373
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,359
I I got pretty high on Dobbins 
like near the end. 

1374
01:09:26,359 --> 01:09:29,880
So definitely got some. 
But yeah, I I hope Davis is 

1375
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,080
right on this. 
Can I I will, I will second 

1376
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:33,240
quickly. 
Yeah, and then I'll let you go 

1377
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:34,640
Crane. 
I'll second quickly like the the

1378
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:38,439
Gus Edwards, at least the snaps 
I looked at last week looked 

1379
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,359
like he's out of the league 
pretty soon like it. 

1380
01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:43,319
It looks really, really ugly for
him. 

1381
01:09:43,319 --> 01:09:45,960
They they need to probably to 
get punched in the mouth a 

1382
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,439
couple times and like lose some 
games for them to make a change 

1383
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:50,880
because if they're just winning,
they probably don't change it 

1384
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:51,439
up. 
But. 

1385
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,440
Looks looks very tough. 
Leonard Fournetti. 

1386
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,120
It looks, it looks real ugly. 
Go ahead, Cran, you have to get 

1387
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:58,560
a point. 
There, well, Davis is. 

1388
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,000
Davis is correct. 
So can I change my answer? 

1389
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:03,800
This one's more fun. 
Go ahead. 

1390
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:05,400
Yeah, go ahead. 
Yeah, because Davis, you're 

1391
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:07,280
right. 
Eventually by that we'll get a 

1392
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:10,680
chance and and we'll see. 
Then how about DeAndre Swift? 

1393
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,080
We did the we did the Bears 
receivers last week. 

1394
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:21,760
DeAndre Swift has. -44 rushing 
yards over expectation -5444 was

1395
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:31,440
just last night. 
And he's got a 18% success rate,

1396
01:10:31,440 --> 01:10:35,960
which is kind of the the thesis 
of the fade on DeAndre Swift is 

1397
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:40,000
that he's really inconsistent 
when he gets, he had a catch 

1398
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:44,080
last night where he like got 
going and I was like, oh, this 

1399
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,600
is fun. 
Like when he's he has a great 

1400
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:48,840
second. 
Or maybe it's, yeah, I think 

1401
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,400
it's like a second slash third 
year that he kind of gets into. 

1402
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,400
You're like, that's that's 
impressive. 

1403
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:59,000
But he doesn't always get there.
And man, he's he's just not the 

1404
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,600
the inside runner that they're 
going to want to lean on. 

1405
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:05,480
Herbert gets gets the touchdown.
I think we're going to, yeah. 

1406
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,120
Sorry, funny comment. 
Funny comment from Nez I wanted 

1407
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,160
to pull up. 
Swift is a smash in my bounced 

1408
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:17,200
outside for no game league. 
Him and him and Chase Brown 

1409
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,400
actually go at the the 1-2 turn 
in those leagues. 

1410
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,280
So yeah, for sure, I think he 
goes one O 1, yeah. 

1411
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,520
Jacob Jacob made this great 
point yesterday on Twitter. 

1412
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,160
He's he. 
Jacob is so smart. 

1413
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:32,240
He noted that like all the high 
leverage third, third down and 

1414
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:34,760
4th down short, like short yard 
stuff was Herbert. 

1415
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,960
So pretty clearly what's 
happening is the coaches like 

1416
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:41,760
Khalil Herbert more, but they 
know the GM paid Swift three 

1417
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,080
years, 24,000,000. 
So they're like, shit, I I guess

1418
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:47,320
we got to use DeAndre Swift. 
But like, when a play really 

1419
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,400
matters, it's going to Khalil 
Herbert. 

1420
01:11:49,480 --> 01:11:53,480
Yeah, the other thing was swift,
like, you know, the the 

1421
01:11:53,480 --> 01:11:56,120
restaurants over expected stuff 
like does take into account 

1422
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:58,080
eight men in the box and 
everything. 

1423
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:01,560
But like, I still like to look 
at, you know, who's facing a ton

1424
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:05,360
of stacked boxes because that's 
like rush yards ever expected is

1425
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:09,440
going to be juiced by long runs.
So are you going to like, what? 

1426
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:10,920
What's the chance for a couple 
weeks? 

1427
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:12,880
Like who's more likely to RIP 
off long run? 

1428
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:16,960
So for example, Jemonte Williams
has the second lowest rush yards

1429
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:21,120
ever expected in the league at 
-47 but he's faced the highest 

1430
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:28,160
stacked box rate in the NFL. 
He's got through two weeks, 58% 

1431
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,840
of his carries have come against
8 plus defenders in the box. 

1432
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,520
Jordan Mason is second at only 
40%, so 58 to 40. 

1433
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,880
So he's he's in a tough 
situation for Javonte Williams. 

1434
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:44,400
Swift lowest stack box rate in 
the NFL so far, 8% and yet the 

1435
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,120
lowest rush yards ever expected 
in the NFL. 

1436
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:47,800
I would say if anything that 
makes us more confident. 

1437
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,760
This is, like, real like. 
He's had chances to RIP off long

1438
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:54,600
run so far. 
Yeah, it's only two weeks, but 

1439
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,400
he's also been a bad runner for 
a while, so. 

1440
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,480
Yeah. 
Yeah, that not looking good. 

1441
01:13:00,480 --> 01:13:02,720
That's a good one. 
I think they got to go to 

1442
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:08,000
Herbert at some point. 
The Swift stuff looks, looks 

1443
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,120
really bad to my eye as well. 
I think the people who are, you 

1444
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,040
know, briefly giving the other 
side of things, the people who 

1445
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:16,000
are saying his role is, is 
pretty secure and more locked in

1446
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,440
than people think. 
You can say that's right through

1447
01:13:18,440 --> 01:13:19,760
two weeks. 
It's just a matter of whether 

1448
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,480
that is going to hold up over 
the course of the season. 

1449
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:28,120
All right, guys, an hour 10 in I
think did I, did I miss 

1450
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:29,520
everyone? 
I think I got let everyone get 

1451
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,880
their panic button takes off. 
Ran. 

1452
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:35,760
Sorry, did you do 1? 
Yeah, did you do 1? 

1453
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,080
I did Sam La Florida. 
Oh yeah. 

1454
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:39,720
Oh, right, yeah. 
Yeah. 

1455
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,440
So is someone getting like? 
Is there a chainsaw going off in

1456
01:13:42,440 --> 01:13:45,160
the? 
Crane has there's. 

1457
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,440
Never a good recording setup for
me no matter what I do. 

1458
01:13:47,440 --> 01:13:49,600
He's. 
Got he's got landscapers. 

1459
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,120
I change rooms. 
I'm Ethernetted in. 

1460
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:54,320
No, this is this is a neighbor. 
This is not. 

1461
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,080
I'm ethernetted in. 
Now, I did leave the back door 

1462
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:00,440
open, which is creating quite a 
bit more chainsaw noise than you

1463
01:14:00,440 --> 01:14:03,280
might otherwise hear, but it's 
nice out and I wanted a little 

1464
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,360
flow of air. 
So yeah, my bad there. 

1465
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:10,160
All right, well, anyways, fun, 
fun show guys, wouldn't it 

1466
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,680
wouldn't be ADP Jason without a 
little bit of screaming, yelling

1467
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:13,360
at each other. 
I'm glad. 

1468
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:14,960
I'm glad we got that out of our.
System, I can't believe you 

1469
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,960
victory left all right, the 
whole point of the that's just 

1470
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,760
completely blown away, truly 
blown away. 

1471
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,600
I was not victory lapping the 
injury. 

1472
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,640
I I said that at the very 
beginning of the take. 

1473
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,920
If you roll roll, the producer 
will will prove me right on this

1474
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:30,720
one. 
You clearly were victory 

1475
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:32,480
laughing. 
I was not you. 

1476
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,280
You guys put me in so much pain 
last week. 

1477
01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:38,400
I I'm not allowed to go back to 
the pieces of the bed. 

1478
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,240
I had to grab myself to sleep 
after last last week's show, 

1479
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:43,360
right? 
So this. 

1480
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:47,200
Is your villain origin story we 
we put you in too much pain? 

1481
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:48,880
I tried that. 
In the show and. 

1482
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,240
You. 
You fucking dragged me well. 

1483
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:58,640
We, I mean, he said, he said he 
hit the target clip. 

1484
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,560
He hit a target clip in week 1, 
I guess 21 he. 

1485
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,240
Hit it, he hit it until he fell 
off the target Cliff after week 

1486
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:06,640
one. 
That's that is for sure. 

1487
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,160
Oh man, this Cooper Cup stuff is
so stupid. 

1488
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,160
But anyways, where are we at 
guys? 

1489
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,680
Anything Davis you got going on 
this week you want to tell 

1490
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,560
people about? 
Yeah, streaming every day. 

1491
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:26,120
Youtube.com/davis Under score 
Matic Be there or be Square. 

1492
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:30,120
Awesome, Pat, anything going? 
On check out Legendary Upside, 

1493
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:33,160
we're going to have a quick 
slant posted here by Matt Irby 

1494
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,360
on the Monday Night Football 
game, So look for that. 

1495
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:40,040
And yeah, we got the waiver 
wire, weekly rankings, rest 

1496
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,760
season rankings, Sam helping out
with the weekly and rest season 

1497
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:47,560
rankings, and we've got the 
walkthrough out every Friday. 

1498
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:53,000
So yeah, check that out. 
Respectfully, Sam and I did not 

1499
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,960
agree on the Cooper Cup stuff. 
Respectfully, I think your take 

1500
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,760
is is not correct. 
Yeah, respectfully, Cooper Cup. 

1501
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,360
Respectfully, Cooper Cup is not 
Justin Jefferson. 

1502
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:06,440
Respectfully. 
Respectfully, I tried to rank or

1503
01:16:06,440 --> 01:16:08,640
she Rice over Cooper Cup and the
rest of season rankings. 

1504
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,600
I was vetoed there. 
Respectfully, by some opinions I

1505
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:13,040
really respect. 
On people. 

1506
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,800
But I did, I did try to help out
the leg up subscribers, but 

1507
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:21,680
respectfully, I was. 
Yeah, cuz you respectfully knew 

1508
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,840
that he was going to suffer high
ankle sprain this week, cuz 

1509
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:25,640
you're respectfully really good 
at. 

1510
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:27,920
Predicting, to be clear, this. 
I say this with a lot of 

1511
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,040
respect. 
I really love all the stuff that

1512
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:31,680
leg up. 
Love all things. 

1513
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:33,520
Respectfully, let's please get 
the fuck out of here. 

1514
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:37,680
Yeah, I will say quickly, before
we get out of here, I'd really 

1515
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:42,120
recommend, hope you guys check 
out my weekly article on a Salva

1516
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,760
Saron breaking down the film of 
all the breakout players. 

1517
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:46,920
This week I'm going to look into
Quinton Johnson. 

1518
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:48,040
That should be an interesting 
one. 

1519
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,800
Also look into probably Hunter 
Henry, Brock Bowers, maybe 

1520
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:53,960
something with the Saints 
offense. 

1521
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:57,520
Still figuring it out, but last 
week broke down the JK Dobbins 

1522
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:01,920
JMO stuff was all in on them 
being big difference makers 

1523
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,280
after what I saw in week 1. 
So hopefully that's helpful for 

1524
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:07,360
your guys trades, maybe your 
waivers with some of the 

1525
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:11,680
players. 
But yeah, that's all I have to 

1526
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:16,200
say. 
We will see you guys next week 

1527
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,160
as soon as I can find the outro 
clip. 

1528
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:19,000
Peace.