All right, buckle up. We are back for another 34 round
Epic NFFC draft. We had our inaugural run at this
last week. I'd like to say we learned some
lessons, maybe some lessons we didn't learn, but we are ready
to battle it out with you guys on the NFFC tonight.
It's ship chasing with Pete, with Gretch and with Pat.
Let's do it. Pat Fryer Helmo this.
Is what this is what I'm Pat. Hand job fix your side, Jamar.
Alpha play Chase. Are you kidding me?
You can't handle the heat. It looks like we're finally at
this point here, right? All right, let's go.
Let's go. Let's go, Pat.
Then you guys lumber it up here, You guys, you guys ready?
Did your stretching ready to go for this?
What's lumbering up? I've heard of limbering up.
Is that some sort of wood spin off of?
I think it is, yeah. I was out chopping wood.
You know, it's kind of just chopping down routes, chopping
down wood. You know how it goes.
How are you doing Gresh? I I mean, I'm doing great.
I can't get that planted on the bass song out of my head.
I've been listening to it on loop for like 3 days, so you
guys know what I'm talking about.
I was curious if you guys had seen this on Twitter yet.
I saw you mention it, but I wasn't sure specifically.
What you were referencing? It's like a a spoof of a, like a
90s, you know, European dance song.
And it's like so good that it's like actually legit and I want
to actually like listen to the song.
It's only a 52nd clip, but it's. Put it on.
That doesn't start for 15 minutes.
It's on Twitter. Planet of the bass.
Planet of the bass, Yeah, you'll find it on.
Or it's on TikTok in Twitter. It's been stuck in my head.
I sorted out. I've been driving and playing in
a loop. Listen.
It's a 50 minute song you're playing.
On 50 seconds. Sorry, 50 seconds.
They don't have a real song. That's like, not even a song.
OK, right. Catch yourself.
So that's why you have to play it on loop.
OK, I'm trying to. OK, hang on.
I think I found it. Tell me if this is it.
Does this look right? Oh yeah, that's it.
I love the guys in the background.
Lie it never die when in are my favorite guy sex.
I'm wanting more. Tell the world stop the war.
Come here the base goes home. Have a body.
Build the crew. Cyber system overload everybody
more bad. Wow.
It stuck the landing. It's like like an Eric Pride.
Like Call on Me meets The Bloodhound Gang.
Yeah, Bloodhound Gang bad time Also blue that indeed.
I mean, I'm with the chat that are asking how this is stuck
about. I don't know how it's stuck
about. This was never like my kind of
music. But that beat gets me moving,
boys. I can't believe.
How many times have you listened to that song on repeat on on
Twitter? I don't.
Know. Probably 100 times, yeah.
Have you gone to the lengths like I think the true sicko
would be if you ripped it off of Twitter and it had the MP3?
Downloaded onto your phone. It's a movie goodness.
What? And I wish your guys is off.
I was saying that if you were really sick, you would have done
Twitter to MP4 download or MP3 download and then get the song
on your phone so you don't have to stream it on Twitter all the
time. You could just have it as your
ringtone. Just have it as my ringtone.
That's great, Yeah. What were you?
Yeah, we you missed us on Monday.
You were just saying we had a really fun stream without you.
The chat, really enjoyed the curveball.
Well, half the chat like that. Half the chat was like, what the
hell is going on? We talked about Delaware a lot
more than you think. We talked about Delaware.
A lot more than a play at a new football stream should probably
talk about the borders of Delaware.
So I like, pulled it up the next day cuz I like try to update the
title and put the tags and all that.
And so I was like scanning through and then I was like, OK,
they're on a map of Delaware now they're doing quizzes.
And I was like, was the draft cancelled or something?
Like I was, I was legitimately curious how you had so much
time. 12:00, So it just got to a point where I was like, all
right, let's make the picks and then.
I would ask. It got to the point at the end I
was asking Ben like as I was on the clock and he I could tell
he's just like completely zoned out doing a sport quiz I.
Was like, dude, come on, help me.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, whatever, dude.
Whatever. Like I'm not a part of this
team. Whatever you wanna say, support.
And then I showed. I showed Gretchen these guys, So
my buddy Nick Irkolano, Nick BDGE.
They had just created an NFL trivia YouTube account because
they had been doing it on TikTok having a lot of success.
It's just absolutely smashing the accounts.
Been up for like a month, has like 15 K Subs.
All their videos are getting like 25,000 views.
So maybe we just abandoned all of this.
We just go full blown NFL trips. I'm there, I'm ready to go.
Like you told me that. And I was like, wait, trivial is
winning on YouTube? Like, why do we not?
Have trivia chasing yet? Let's go exactly.
I know. I feel like I I feel like I
missed out. We do have a 34 round draft
tonight though, so maybe there's time for a few detours to some
some quizzes as well. Here we have the 6th slot
tonight. We definitely set our draft
preferences beforehand and this was the one we requested we did
get. The we do that this time.
For sure. For sure, definitely.
Definitely didn't just get the six, so don't.
Worry about that. We do have some fun ship chasers
in here. We really need to remember to do
this stuff for the silver bullet.
The big stuff, Yeah, we probably do it now.
Yeah, we should probably do it. We probably will be like I'm
glad we mentioned the silver bullet.
So tonight's draft is full. The silver bullet draft that we
still have spots. Next week we're going to be
drafting a main event team. What we do need to announce that
shortly and then the week after we're going to be doing our
silver bullet draft which is a single entry contest on NFFC.
It's $1200 buying. It's a really fun format because
there ends up only being 21 total leagues.
It's a real like go get your guys format because you got one
crack at it in this tournament. So we are going to be drafting
that two weeks. There's still spots available.
I have it LinkedIn the description, I have it pinned in
the chat here. You guys want to compete with
us, that will be streamed. It'll be a super fun draft that
is a managed league. That's not going to be a best
ball one. So I'm getting very excited for
my my first silver bullet draft. Yeah, me too.
Tournament single entry and a fairly small field so.
Yeah, I've always wanted to do that as well and never, never
done it. I obviously can't register on my
own. It's the whole idea of the
single entry is, you know, this is Pete's draft, we were told,
right? Like we're not supposed to,
yeah. It's Pete's draft.
You guys, you can't. Yeah, there would be huge
integrity issues if you guys were trying to sneak in your own
silver bullet drafts without us. Because then some would say,
yeah, if I had three bullets, I would have won the silver
bullet. We can't.
We can't be having that, yes. Like we won't have sporkle up
while you do your draft. We'll be engaged on a silver
bullet. Don't worry.
I do appreciate that. Win crack rock.
We are booked for a draft with crack rock.
I mean we're going to get a I'll get a graphic out shortly
probably by the beginning of next week with our full August
draft plans but have been teasing some of these.
They'll be a draft with crack rock.
We'll get a draft with John. Silver Bullets going to be with
just us. We got some Co manager drafts.
All kinds of fun stuff coming down the pipeline.
Packed August, Packed August. Pete, where do you stand on
crunching ice into the microphone so loud that everyone
can hear it? Because the chats referencing
this. This was a big part of Monday's
stream, but apparently the chat they're asking.
For people like it, I don't. Know they want more crunch
tights. What?
So explain you guys are gonna have to.
You know how you do your coffee pour?
And it's like, very soothing and pleasing to the ears.
Grutch was attempting his own thing, except he was just
crunching ice into the microphone.
Not really Intentionally. I had a Margarita, I finished it
and then I was just like crunching my ice and I didn't
really think through the ramifications until the chat
finally kind of pointed it out and it sounds like it was pretty
bad on their end. So you're saying it wasn't like
an ASMR thing where everyone, like, really ate it up?
The opposite of ASMR really. I think, yeah, the exact
opposite. This is like unpredictable
crunching sounds. Well, you don't expect them, you
know. By the way, shout out to Mac
Nova who threw in a super chat. This is first time drafting on
NFC out of the nine spot in this draft.
Yeah, I wanted to. I wanted to pull that up because
we do got some friends and family in the draft tonight,
which is very fun. I noticed our buddy Ray Chung,
who was with us in Vegas last year, haven't seen him around in
our drafts lately. So we got Chung, we got Doctor
Evil who hit us up on on Twitter, was excited to compete
with us. We got Mac, Nova, of course we
got Sanderson running it back, Kevin Tompkins of course.
Twitchell, Jake here. And then Zuka who who set the
land speed record for average big time.
I'm going to throw it out again tonight.
We'll do a $50.00 gift card to the store to whoever has the
fastest average pick time. I know I didn't announce that
immediately last time, so maybe some of these guys felt like
they were behind the 8 ball. Put that bounty out right now.
We'll see off the Zook for the best average draft time.
So love it. This is going to be a little bit
of a Piss Boy draft. I think so.
I think all. Right.
Let's do it. All right, Pat, I just added you
as a Co manager. I'm trying to like.
Oh, I like Josh's question. What's what's the over under for
fastest pick time? You got 34 rounds to think
through. I think Zook ended up at like 5
or 6 seconds average pick time. If someone's really dialed in,
they can get three to four seconds.
And trust me, as someone who just presided over the world's
fastest slow draft, it can be done it.
Can I will say I my my pick for fastest pick time is Tompkins.
He's got the 12 hole. I know Tompkins.
Was a part of your fastest slow draft.
He's at the turn. He's calling it himself, too.
He sees, what I see is. Babe Ruth in it.
He's ready to go. I think he's gonna be, if not if
not one second, two seconds, one or the other.
If not 2 seconds, one second, he might be one second.
A small thinks like he's seen through some like deceptive
ploy. Oh no, I'm completely shameless
about this. Bribing a 34 rounder to pick up
the pace. They say you can't put a price
on sleep. I'm putting a price on it and
it's a $50.00 gift card to my store.
So yeah, I am very much willing to bribe people to make this a
fast draft. I I agree that people says the
fastest slow draft might have been the fastest draft.
In general, 9 minutes and 24 seconds.
I'll give everyone in the chat $100.00 gift card.
If we do this draft in 9 minutes and 24 seconds.
Today I. Mean, I think.
Everyone in the chat, we're gonna we're gonna take longer.
No way. We'll we'll probably average 9
minutes ourselves. What What are our lessons we
learned from last week. I think we did some things well.
I thought we handled the positional runs at defense and
kicker pretty well. We had the One Cadarius, Tony
issue. I don't know who to assign blame
to for that. It could have been all of us.
Any other lessons we learned from last week?
I didn't really feel like we did learn any of that.
One of the lessons I learned is you put together a spreadsheet
for the late rounds and then Pat just starts naming players that
you like haven't heard of. I cannot believe DeMarcus
Robinson is apparently like. Yeah, favorite for the wide
receiver. Three job in.
Yeah, I was grinding 30th round options.
You were just naming. I can't even remember the guys
you were naming. They were so bad.
Well, I literally was just naming them.
I They were just, I was saying dudes, I knew.
Here's a random player that that does end up being What the the
last couple rounds of this draft are is just what are the most
random dudes we can think of? Although people want us to draft
Patrick Laird and I can't, I can't really argue with it.
I did. Did you guys see the tape of him
out agilitying oh Rashad White? No, let's definitely take some
later in this draft. I'm game for that.
My point is, what's the point of doing the 34 round draft on
stream if you're not going to argue about the 32nd, 33rd and
34th round picks? Like, I want to start that
argument now. I don't really care about who we
take in the 1st 25 round. Well, I'm scarred from doing the
mini Subs with Ben. We're gonna have a new one out
shortly where, you know, Ben's arguing and then we say who do
you want? And you're like, oh, I don't
know, I just was arguing against the guys you were.
They're like it's hard when you ask me who, like I want and I
have to like pick someone that we should draft, cuz I'm just
saying I didn't want to. Take the guys new ones.
It's pretty easy to tear down any ninth round pick at this
point, yeah. You know what?
I'm good at that part of it. Tell me to pick somebody that's
a little harder. All right, we're off to the
races. Justin Jefferson off the board
at 101 here. So last week we started with,
was it Eckler from like the eight or the 9:00?
Yeah, I pulled up last week's for but Eckler and then Jonathan
Taylor. Then we went.
Mark Andrews in the third. Justin Herbert in the 4th.
Ripped wide receiver for a while, came back, grabbed 2
quarterbacks and they kind of filled everything else out.
Yeah, we were pretty excited about that Jonathan Taylor pick
last week at this time. Wow that.
Was one week ago. Yeah, South there.
We're on the clock. Kelsey Diggs Cup JT I mean, do
we want to buy the dip on cup here?
I'm definitely down to buy the dip.
On cup I'm. I'm down to buy the dip.
On cup, Yeah, the dip has been bought.
Oh, yes, our guy cares here. Gretchen, I just want you to be
an AJB gambro again. A lot of people are having a
crisis of faith. You being out on DJ Moore.
Out on. What's going on with your brand,
dude? I mean, when you're right on
guys for so many years in a row, they kind of get priced up at a
certain point. Like A.J.
Brown has been easy to be in on every year.
Cuz nobody wanted to draft him where he was supposed to go.
I'm not like completely out on him.
I did come around, especially as we talked.
I've already spoiled this pick as we talked in the first time.
And then so it's Pat Gay. No, those are the first
episode's out. The first episode is.
That that gave me a good that was our first.
Pick of the of the main event. He gave me a good a good take on
Brown and and I feel like the late 1st through man maybe all
the way through to the early 3rd is like a really flat grouping
and so you can have your you know your preferences.
Near the top of that it feels like Brown is is pricey to me
with his profile at like 9 or at 10 or he often goes but.
I mean, if he was going in the late 2nd, I would be saying he
was a value as sort of part of it.
So I mean it's a little bit, it's a flat tier.
It's just a little bit of him being at the top of a flat tier.
I'm down to take him is what I'm getting at.
I'm getting much more down to take him.
Yeah, I got him. I got him at 112 in a best ball
Mania draft today. We're on the clock.
JT Nick Chubb at running back. Devon to Smith Higgins at wide
receiver. Mark Andrews, tight end,
Baltimore Ravens team kicker. Which jumps out to you.
I honestly be OK grabbing Chubb here.
Take Baltimore Ravens team kicker.
I don't. I'm just giving all the options
across the positions. I'm down for Chubb or Devon
Gretch. I also thought Pollard.
Oh yeah, Paul. It's a fun one.
Yeah, I mean, I you gonna tear down our elections.
I don't have a strong. I would probably just go wide
receiver, wide receiver. But I I think we could take
Chubb. I'm trying to figure out if it's
late enough for Chubb. I think it's still too early for
him. I would probably go Devonto, but
I would. I'm down with Chubb.
Let's do Devonta. We get these piss boys back on
track. Oh wow.
I mean, Chubb is an anchor. There wouldn't have been a bad
pick in Best. No, the team behind a snap picks
him up, starts Eckler. Chubb.
We start Cooper Cup. Devonta Smith.
But. I is being projected to take a
pretty big step forward with his workload at age 28, when he
wasn't even. Work course in college, let
alone all through his NFL career.
Well, it's more the receiving which he which he's shown he can
do and maybe they let him do a little bit more of it now, cuz
they're gonna throw more and hunts gone.
I think that's. The But like well, case the idea
of a 28 year old setting new career highs in in various, you
know, workload capacities as your case for a second round
pick is kind of I hit 1.6 receptions per game last year.
He's been sub two receptions per game.
Four of his five. Years of his career, he's been
really low in reception. I'm pretty underweight on Chubb,
but he does make me nervous because he's such a good rusher.
Yeah, in a way it reminds me a little bit of the Eckler bet
from two years ago or three years ago, whenever he, I guess
two years ago and it was like, I guess we're all just drafting
this dude like he's gonna get the goal line role.
But if he does, actually, he's a great he's still a great pick.
Yeah, it doesn't like, this is a really stupid pick.
And I kind of feel similar about troubles.
Like, I guess we're just drafting this guy like he's
gonna catch balls this year. But if he does catch balls, he's
actually still a pretty good second round.
Pick, That's a good though. That's a good point.
Yeah. I just, he's actually a great
second round pick on talent and the Russian ability.
Yeah, I think catching balls, yeah.
It's just like one of the things where I wish the market wasn't
just like pricing it like that's gonna happen, but I get why they
are. That's why I'm confused.
Because the market is clearly discounting Deshaun Watson based
on him looking awful last year, right?
Like they're not drafting him like they're getting Houston,
Texan top five quarterback, but they are drafting Nick Chubb
that he's going into this environment where he can just
absolutely smash. Which necessitates Deshaun
Watson not being as awful as he was last year, which is just
like a weird dynamic to me. Dude, I was.
So I I did. I'm doing offseason stealing
signals post. I did the NMC N today and I
wrote about the Bears and I came around to part of my.
Concern with DJ Moore, which I don't think I've ever said on
the show as I've tried to like, crystallize this more.
I think Mooney, Comet and Claypool are all being drafted
as if the offense of volume stuff is a real concern.
The past volume stuff, like all the points I always make when we
talk about DJ Moore about past volume.
I think the market sees it with all those other guys, based on
their profiles, their profiles are still decent.
Like they're not so bad that they should be going as low as
they are. And yet with DJ Moore, I think
there's like no, it's projecting, no concern there.
A lot of progression in their actual past volume.
Very similar to what Pete was just saying with the market is
seeming to do 2 different things based on the players in the same
offense. All right, Debo and Keenan at
running back. Josh Jacobs is here at running
back. Jacobs here.
Jacobs if we Yeah I don't see it's probably Jacobs or Debo
what do you. Guys say.
Yeah, I mean, I just voted against Pat's Chubb pick.
He really wants to get one of these boring ass running backs
on well. You know, generally it's a bit
more of a running back heavy format and it is best ball and
but it's gonna go play for the Raiders and this will look like
a good pick. All right, so we're kind of
flipping our build last week where we did double anchor
running back and then did we do, did we do Andrews in the third?
We did Andrews on the 3rd and then we got Herbert and then we
just pissed for. And then we went crazy.
We went, we went Mike Williams, Michael Pittman, Quinton
Johnson, Rashad Bateman, Sky Mork, Darius, Tony, Rondale,
Moore. The checking in on the time.
So Zuke's here at 2 seconds, Kevin Tompkins at 2 seconds.
Those are our leader, Sanderson at 10 seconds.
Yikes. Yeah, how the?
Mighty have. Wow.
Dr. Evil At six seconds this you've already lost.
You're 10 seconds through three pics.
Those 30 seconds that's you've already lost.
He does point out that he is the last.
Pisser in the room, so you know he's taking his time, but.
Piss faster. Tomkins, I think got caught off
guard with the third round reversal.
That's my prediction. So I'm going to say his his two
seconds are going to become one second by the end of this trip.
I like that. I like that, yeah.
Well, he wasn't. He wasn't prepared for his next
pick. Yeah, that's the guest, dude.
Tomkins got sniped real hard on Herts, huh?
Liam Brown that would have picked.
Yeah, yeah, man, it's brutal. But Pete, I really did like your
point. I kind of, I kind of went off on
a whole different team and then we were on the clock.
But you're saying job is being priced as if a huge change in
the offense is happening, but there is a better way to play
that through Shawn Watson, essentially?
Right. Like if, Yeah, if you're super
excited about them bouncing back.
I I'm just always more on board with like thinking.
I think people try to. Like really nail or thread this
tight needle, which, it's like Watson isn't that good, but the
offense is just functional enough that it all runs through
Chubb and he just has this massively efficient season,
dominates all the goal line carries.
To me, it's more logical to be like the Browns bounce back and
smash and everyone eats. Yeah.
Yeah, I have a lot more. I have more Watson than Chubb
for sure. He is scary, though.
I mean as as someone who's going to end up way underweight, it
is. Scary.
Yeah. I mean and honestly like sitting
here in the middle of the second round, that's why I was like I
kind of would anytime like I can defend taking Chubb and I think
post a lava, I don't, you know with the Taylor stuff, it's like
it really comes down to like Chubb or Pollard for me.
Yeah, this conversation has made me wish we take took Chubb after
a lava was off. I mean, I think that makes
sense. Yeah, I do.
I do just to get exposure to him.
Yeah. Just to get exposure to him.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah I do think. I mean last week we did I think
recovered decently at wide receiver.
I I also though think Devant is a bit of a tear break to the
next batch of of wide receivers. I know some people have a lava
significantly ahead of him. Some people have Higgins close
to him, but I don't know, I I don't mind that we went there.
Yeah, I I would take him over Chubb at a vacuum.
It's more just like the points about being scared of Chubbs.
Like, yeah, I probably should. I liked Pat's point that you
have a reason to take him. Just take him.
So you got Lamar at quarterback, ETN at running back, Jerry Judy
at wide receiver. Those look like.
I'll take Lamar here, which I guess people are just like odd 6
point per passing, but they're gonna throw more this year,
right? And he's.
I don't know. Yeah, and he can throw.
He has led the NFL and passing TDs before.
I would think I would take ETN at 4.
The middle of the 4th is getting a little ridiculous on ETN.
What's the like massive argument against him?
Patch Mahomes just went midsecond.
When you get a chance to take Lamar.
Yeah, there's a lot of fear in the streets.
Mahomes and Six Point per passing TV and the passing yards
are juiced up is a lot better than Lamar, in my opinion.
But we can take Lamar. So the let's take Lamar the one
thing and again I'm not saying I fully buy it, but the reason ETN
starting to drop is because you have a lot of this tank Bigsby
hype. There's talking about pass
catching, getting goal line stuff.
And people are starting to get spooked about ETF.
They're talking to him up as a pass catcher and how he's like
unstoppable in shore yarded situations.
So it's just it's just like seems like it's not here.
It seems pretty faulty to me. I mean, one of the one of the
quotes I saw on Bigsby that got that's got circulated, I know
someone was pointing out that in the same thing that the quote
that wasn't getting circulated in the same article was ETN is
clearly the locked in #1. You know, let's if there's still
comments like that that are coming out of camp.
ETN was really good last year, 5.1 yards per per carry.
One of the weird things about his, you know, lack of receiving
is that he was really efficient as a receiver, 7 yards per
target, 9 yards per reception. I I mean he was very good.
I think he's actually a good NFL player like his.
I think he's a good NFL player too.
Prospect profile suggested like that.
He was good and he played well last year.
I mean, Tank Bigsby, we didn't really think he was that great
of a prospect. I I kind of liked him.
You know, I took him in our dynasty draft I think back in
the spring. Like I liked him.
But even though he's getting buzz, like I'm not out on the
starting running back on an up and coming offense, it's
projected to like take a step forward this year.
Like that's silly. Speaking of the starting running
back on an up and coming offense that could take a step for this
year, Kenneth Walker's kind of interesting.
Yeah, I like that. Yeah, yeah, I guess a lot of the
wide receivers got wiped here. I think IUK is probably the most
interesting wide receiver to do that too.
I would do IU too. It's more I would do either.
What can we replace later more easily?
Yeah, I I think I'd rather push running back a little bit.
Walker is a much higher ADP. I was remembering last week with
the 34 rounder, we were thinking, you know past round 20
you can find some wide receivers that'll run routes.
You're probably not gonna find running back.
So it might make that's part of why I was talking about ETN and
part of why I was talking about like in his Walker tape.
It's just remembering. Yeah, say I'm saying that ETN
ran a shit ton of routes but was rarely targeted.
Just worried that the target tree will be condensed to
Ridley, Kirk and and Ingram. Yeah I think Etn's he's like a
he's almost more like like Tony Pollard or something like he's
explosive he's got, but he's explosive he's he's reliable the
way Pollard I mean Pollard isn't just like a speed back he he
like has very good success rate and he's good as a receiver but
he's not like you know like a he's like an explosive element
to the receiving game but he's not like a McCaffrey at all.
I but I've just worried with the.
You know in similar to Paula though it's like if the team
just decides they want him to be part of a committee like then I
just don't think that's it at all.
I mean I I just have a completely different read on ETN
than I think Sam's point, your guys's point like I think that
that that's like a faulty application of one year.
I think one of Lawrence's big mistakes last year was that he
was pushing stuff downfield too much.
You know we were talking recently about the first
retargets pad, how they're like a large percentage of of overall
targets. I didn't realize how high of a
percentage. And then apparently a lot of the
non first rate targets become running back targets.
And I think Lawrence is probably a quarterback that was thrown to
the first read a lot down the field pushing down the field
more than dumping off. And that's the next progression
in his quarterback game is like he needs to learn to like dump
off. Like I just don't think running
back targets are like earned or that big of a deal.
Like I don't think he did anything wrong.
He ran a lot of routes last year and this quarterback just was
pushing downfield and was making mistakes.
Downfield has to learn to come back down to ETN, and that just
seems like something that will happen over Etn's career and
like it's rookie year will just be one of these weird footnotes.
Like, I don't think that's going to define his career or
anything. I just think it's like a really
weird outlier. I don't know.
I'm not worried about that at all.
My main thing with both ETN and Walker's, I just see those guys
continually dropping and drafts. So and I know we're only doing
one more of these or whatever, but like just wanting more of a
discount than paying like sticker price when like the
market is discounting them now. Honestly, that's been the
biggest thing for me is that you like every time I see ETN I just
like I can get them cheaper. But I'm only at 6% and he's been
very cheap so far. So, right, I'm sort of, I'm
doing the same thing. Part of me is like, I'm doing
the same thing and I'm like man, I can get them cheaper.
But like, I think I would be taking him if he was a 2-3 term
guy too. Like why?
Why couldn't he belong on the same tier as Ram, Andre and Bris
and stuff? Like, I don't know.
I think we're all really high on Priest, but.
As far as his So for me, he comes out like I was pulling up
some of my stuff here he he comes out really, really strong
as a rusher and he comes out OK as a receiver.
He's like a capable receiver, probably like a probably really
underrated rusher. I think people don't ask just
how talented he appeared to be last year.
We're on the clock here. Running back.
You got Dobbins kicking around here.
You got Michael Pittman, Marquis Brown, Pickens, Burks, Tony,
We're in that range for wide receiver.
Kittle just came off the board. So you're down to Dallas Goddard
at tight end we took. Addison and also Addison gave
Davis a little further down the ADP here, but they'll probably
won't come back. I I'm kind of drafting through
it on Dobbins, but yeah, I push back on Walker in the end.
We can. We could do Dobbins here.
Yeah, we took Lamar. I'm down.
Yeah, Javante already off the board in the 5th.
That's another interesting name that goes a lot higher than
usual, so we might as well lock up a running back here.
It does. I think it speaks a little bit
to. The anchoring bias on underdog
relative to this where I don't think as many people are just
drafting off of ADP here, where you see Javante Williams go
aggressive. Javante Williams has not gone
ahead of JK Dobbins and a single underdog draft that I have seen.
And you could easily argue that they should be flipped, you
know, But because people are so anchored to that ADP in there,
it's going to be a slow, gradual progression.
I just think it's interesting in a room here where someone's
like, no, I'm, I'm taking Javante Williams here.
You know what has the most, I think I think DraftKings has the
most responsive ADP. If you're kind of like looking
to test the market, I would say that that's that's usually a
pretty good indication. I've seen Dobbins now he's going
in the seventh there, so probably a good indication that
he will continue falling. Only one slight discrepancy
though. With the full point PPR, I don't
think people get as excited about his past catching over
there, which would account for a little quicker of a slide.
But yeah, Tompkins with a .86 of a second turn there, I was
clocking it. It came in under half a second
average pick. I might clock as an actual one
too. I better get the stopwatch out.
I think if we had three independent sources, we could
actually maybe average it. All right, we are on the clock
here. George Pickens, Gabe Davis look
like the best wide receivers to me.
A tears getting wiped out here a little bit.
Yeah, one of those guys seems pretty good here.
Do you have a preference on Pickens or Davis?
I like both. I usually lean Pickens
personally. Yeah.
That's Dave. I don't know if you guys saw, I
usually go Davis, but Pickens just just had that.
Pretty sweet. I like.
I'm buying Davis again. I like them both.
For sure. Yeah.
I'm really buying the Pittsburgh offense too much.
Like, I have a lot. I have a lot of the fucking
Steelers. Guys, I I think I have a lot of
Steelers too, but I I think Pickens is the one I'm probably
the most underweight on. Yeah, I only have 4% Pickens on
underdog. Let's see, Johnson.
You'll be able to correct that though, because Deonta is the
one who's got more expensive, and now Pickens just kind of
chills out in that like late 6th.
I don't know if I'm gonna correct it, though I I generally
think Pickens is like the. Like Pickens needs, I think,
more to to happen. Like, if the Pittsburgh offense
is kind of boring, Like Deonte is going to be open, so he'll
just get his get his targets as usual.
I think Pickens versus Davis, they're they're, they actually
feel very similar to me. It's like the type of bet you're
making. Obviously the Bill's offense is
better, but I don't know if you can see the upside there, but.
Generally, yeah, because it's a better offense.
I actually am lower on Pickens. Well, I say lower 12% too.
Pat, he is kind of tough to get. I I have a lot more Deonte if I
move to my second highest drafted tight end warrants my
highest draft and running back pickets, my second my highest
drafted quarterback. So I'm.
I have a ton of Warren. Yeah, my second player, and he
might be my most drafted player once these slow drafts finish
up. I'm just, it's like, literally
because I'm doing so many of these slow drafts and I'm just
like, oh, warrants here, Warren's here.
Oh, great Warrens here. It's very easy to pick him.
It's so easy. He belongs in the tier above.
Yeah, I think he's my most drafted player.
I think you're right. Or that's the case for me.
He is, yeah. He's one of only two guys over
30% and I have about 38%. Wow.
I think he's a 29% for me and I think he'll be more like 35%
when these slows come in. Wow.
Wow, you're getting. All.
Right, our team here through 7 rounds we go Cooper Cup, Devonta
Smith, Josh Jacobs in the third, then grab Lamar Jackson in the
fourth, Brandon and IUK in the 5th, JK Dobbins in the 6th,
George Pickens in the 7th. Here.
I like how this team shaping up, Yeah, that's.
Great. Let's see here.
It's sexy for. Sure.
Wow. Someone's bleeding the clock.
Valentin here. Not going to win any awards.
I'm sorry. Bleeding all the way down.
That's not a name that we recognize, is it?
Sky bleeds it all the way down. It takes Sky One.
Wow. That's.
A big middle finger to the ship chasing crew, I think.
I mean, I can. Take that one personally,
Valentin. I don't know if that was
intentional, but if it wasn't, then I don't know.
I'm almost disappointed. So zay Flowers went.
Already we're now on the clock. I think this feels like Bateman
to me. I'm into it, yeah.
With Lamar, I didn't realize he was on the clock or on the
board, but hell yeah, let's get it, yeah.
All right, I was gonna say after Sky, after James and Williams,
after it's. Stacked up suddenly in Cooks.
I mean that's that feels great. You guys see the SO JGFC posted
this on Twitter yesterday and I quote retweeted it.
So there was his buddy was in a draft and there was a username
from the two hole that was just literally Justin Fields was the
underdog username and the guy in the what hole took Justin Fields
What oh what? Overall it's just such a sick
move. I mean talk about bit equity.
I I just bit equity on 10 just on like elite.
Oh my goodness. Engad here said you guys are
drafting Josh Jacobs. Am I in the right stream?
You have not been watching our streams all summer.
We've been drafting well, not maybe down over here, our best
ball streams. We've been drafting a bunch of
Josh Jacobs in. In an odd way, he kind of feels
like the safest of all those like Round 3 running backs we
were targeting for a while, like Pollard and Derrick Henry moved
up, but of all the other guys, like he.
Probably has the least amount of question marks right now.
I mean, I think, I think he's just going to sign A tag and
play for the Raiders. I think that's this turnover
here is has been ripping it. We we pay.
Yeah. And then it's got Zucko over
here. It's got Tompkins.
This is the size that's competing for the back.
On the clock that the wide receivers have gotten wiped out,
you have Dalvin, Cook, Pacheco, AJ Dillon, Brian Robinson, Dak
Prescott, Kirk Cousins, Daniel Jones.
David Nijoku is here at tight end.
There's a big tier break. I think after Nijoku at tight
end, I'm starting to want to take Rashad Penny at the top of
this tier. Is that too high worth where
he's at in the app? I mean, we now that I've set him
on that stream. So it's a little bit of a reach,
but I I don't have a good feel for ADP in these rooms.
Yeah, I mean, we certainly could justify it.
Was there another name in there? I wasn't really listening to the
names because. Joe, who would have been the
other name. And then Pacheco was sort of
like that's oh, Pacheco's still hanging out.
Yeah. OK.
I. Probably.
Which one do you want to do? I would do Pacheco over Penny,
but then joke is fine. And Joe who?
All right. OK, we'll do.
Pacheco we were running out of time.
The I was trying to see two where's the Deshawn Watson
drafter. I don't know if they were on our
side now they're on the other side has has Cadarius Tony's
price bottomed out. I don't know if we've seen it
fully bottom out yet. It didn't bottom out in this
draft to me. If you can get him around, pick
100. I mean, I'm I'm probably a
bottom signal for. Cadarius Tony, right.
Like if I'm in on Cadarius Tony, then he's probably at the lowest
price he will be at. I don't know.
I actually disagree. I think you're a little
rational. I think.
I think people, everyone was on pins and needles with Cadarius.
Tony was kind of like, we all got a little bit more pulled
back in, like, all right, we'll allow you to hurt us this one
time, but we're going to buy back in.
And then he did the one thing back on his bullshit, and I
think everyone's like. Fuck this dude.
Like, I want nothing to do with this.
This guy will never stay on the field.
It'll never pan out. I do Really think that's how
people think about it. There's not receiver a lot of
receivers here that I would take over him, but I would take all
of these running backs over him now and I will acknowledge that
like you, I'm not necessarily saying he's outside the wide
receiver window and all that. Like he does have an upside wide
receiver profile, but like I would much rather take an upside
running back in this range. Like way, way rather yeah.
PowerPoint as. Soon as I said it, I was like, I
know this is where everyone's. Painted that?
Yeah, I was like my. Head wet there, why would I say?
Put it like that, why would I say I'm a bottom?
You got you got $2.00 flung at you like you just got you got
this $2.00. I was like Tyler, I don't think
Tyler's in the chat, but that's his bad signal.
Yeah, is Tyler have a ghostwriter now?
He even did the $2.00 tip that Tyler normally does.
Now I'm starting to worry that Matt is Tyler.
You guys misclicked Tony round ten with this from Henry and
with and we're mad about it now he goes around to 8 and that is
bottoming out. That's true that he's on the way
back up. We were in the bottom.
Why is he? Acting around 8, the accidental
bottom the. Accidental bottom wait, but
where do you guys think? OK.
Like I understand ADP is a very powerful force in the current
market. I think my, my take on best ball
long term is like we're all going to have a different view
on ADP in a couple years, just these, I think the movements on
every bit of news is just a little bit crazy.
But anyway, well. Yeah, people.
Well, people don't really know how to, I think people, yeah,
and everyone anchors to ADP and what other people have gotten in
these tournaments and all that stuff.
And it's, it's a lot of we're back on the clock.
A J Dillon looks nice to me here.
Wide receiver is still pretty gross.
You looking at like Schultz at tight end.
Quarterback Daniel Jones just came off the board.
Anyone else other than Dylan jump out?
No, but I like Dylan a lot. That sounds great.
Yeah, I don't really see anyone. Let me just take a quick look,
OK, Dylan, let me just take a quick look, OK?
I was going to float Daniel Jones if he made it, but he did
not. But hang on, I want you to flesh
out what you were saying, Ben, about because I agree with you
that the way people react to it. It's like not efficient or not
correct but I that just is like such like basic human psychology
of how people like react to news and it's like this is a real
time way to react to news. It's like if you were having the
conversation at your bar it's like could you raise Tony get
I'm never drafting that guy. It's like will you hop in a
draft and then you just let him fall.
That's like how you you know put your money where your mouth is.
So I just don't know if that elements ever going to change
for casual. What I think is different in in
the current year or is getting more and more extreme the more
that we're drafting year round. Cuz I think 2023 we drafted
earlier than ever and we you know the big board tournament
was you know bigger than ever is that we anchored to the the
early 80P's and then we made adjustments based on news
throughout the year as opposed to think in past years there
were early drafts and early 80P's but people are more
willing to make adjustments based on like research and like
conversations about the players and where they actually should
go. I feel like this year it's all
been really anchored to where the early 80P's were.
In some cases I just think wrong, but like, oh, that's
where they've gone all summer and we're only adjusting if
there's news to get us off those numbers.
And so it's all been like very news.
Reactionary, I think. Like Javonte Williams, people
have been saying he's undervalued all offseason and he
just continues to. We're up.
Tyler Boyd, Darnell Mooney, Rondell Moore.
Running back really got wiped out.
Eli Mitchell looks kind of good to me in this running back
range. I think we could wait another
round on quarterback. I probably put a vote in for Eli
Mitchell, unless you guys like want to do like run Delmore or
Tyler Boyd. I like the heavy RB, sort of.
We can be done after around 14 kind of thing.
I'm fine with it. Yeah.
All right. We draft Eli Mitchell.
Yeah, I do think it is a case for like to your point, Ben.
I know, I find myself still getting.
Anchored, even when I know better.
I did think like today when I drafted with Sean, he's been
sending me his updated ranks before every show.
And so I did load those in and that's kind of like a good, you
know, glass of cold water splashed on your face when
you're on the clock of being like no, we are pushing this guy
up versus just getting complacent with the ADP
anchoring Ryan makes a good point that Stafford's another
one that I know you guys talked about an ADP chasing a lot where
I had a retirement respect in early and then it's just like
never adjusted like he's playing I've it's hard to stack.
I think it's part of the also part of it and the stacking
stuff I think is influencing ADB.
But then basketball's gonna have new stack.
The part of it now is that Jefferson and Higbee still goes
slightly ahead. And I think because you don't,
you don't have cup, you don't have a ram probably.
Or you might have acres, but that's not really so.
So like you want to get Jefferson or Higbee in first and
then you kind of naturally like you're waiting a little on
Stafford and if the Cup guy doesn't grab, so he's just like
in a range. But it's one of those things
where if he's set free, if he gets above those guys, he could
rise quite a bit because he sort of ends up searching for the
next little stack. MM HM, that makes sense.
Stafford D Rob Stack, I'm with you, Magnova for sure.
We gotta get the Stafford D Rob Stack going.
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Yeah, I mean, if you've ever thought about playing high
stakes, like it feels like a really good on boarding
tournament, it's a little bit lower price point at 1200.
Everyone can only draft one team.
You're not going against, you know, 200 Chad Schrader teams,
you know you're only playing against one of every high stakes
grinder. It's a little bit obviously
smaller price pool, smaller amount of overall teams, but I
think it's a great contest to get in on if if you're, you
know, wanting to get up to that kind of price point.
For sure. Looking at some options here, I
I I still think Rashi Rice is a little mispriced here when guys
like Phelan and Osborne are coming off.
I think Dalton Schultz, if we wanted to pull the trigger on a
tight end, is interesting. Let me just check something
because this is, I recall, was when we started to see
quarterbacks really fly off and so it might not be a bad move to
get like a Stafford who we just talked about being underpriced.
Derek Carr. Jordan.
Love Kyle the Kyler we do have cop.
We have cup. So I think Stafford, I would say
Stafford here, yeah, pretty strong.
I'm cool with Stafford. Let's grab him.
I like that call. Yeah, I like my So Pat that's
where I do the starring. When I take cup in the first
round, I * Stafford like it's all right this Stafford team
because if you have cup then Stafford immediately becomes an
undervalued like Cuz. And my opinion on on part of why
he's hard to stack is also that I just don't think Van
Jefferson's draftable and I don't think anyone else in LA is
draftable frankly including to Marcus Robinson.
Probably my main argument on Robinson is he just muddies the
waters for everybody. But I think it's basically cup
and then Higby and that's about it.
I try to get a double stack through both of those guys if I
can. But if I don't take cup it's
really hard to take Stafford. I've done a couple Stafford with
Higby. I've probably done a couple
Stafford with like 2 too late, but I just don't.
I think the rest of the receiving room is going to be
fluid this year and I just don't like any of the profiles enough
to and feel confident enough in the routes to to make that the
primary stack. But when I take Cup, it's like,
OK, Stafford's now like 2 rounds.
Too cheap, at least when I have Cup on roster, yeah.
The good. Call the 11th of our previous
draft, so I like getting in there.
You know, I was going to say good call on, you know, the
quarterbacks we do see Love and Pickett go now Kyler here, we're
on the clock. I think you can make a case for
Purdy with our IU can just being done at quarterback.
Unless you guys have another one in your back, the other guy.
Was chicka conquo is a big faller here.
I don't know if you guys like him at all.
I mean different. Higbee's kind of at ADP Ish.
He's more. Tight in tears, Still maybe a
little flat relative to the QB stuff that could happen here.
I'm happy. I'm happy partying, being done.
I think that's, yeah, pretty good.
Let's close that up. I'm going to have a beer.
Man, I could go for a beer right now.
Trying to, I could too. Yeah, I might go to and.
Get some beer. A couple.
A couple housekeeping things. Why Ben gets a beer.
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Tyler's joined the stream. He's asked us to catch him up.
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There, yeah, the chat is talking about power bottoms there.
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We gotta get some tight ends. We're eventually gonna have to
take some DS and draft some fucking kickers, yes?
But tight ends? Priority.
The seal has not been broken at at the IT.
Wasn't broken for a few more rounds.
We're a few rounds off from the seal being broken, yeah, and I
think is our priority tight end right now.
I think so. Tight in receiver, right?
We have how many receivers? We have 5.
We definitely have to catch up on wide receiver.
I guess one guy who's kind of a faller here by ADP, like Gallup
is still kicking around at wide receiver, but Higby's here as
well if we want to get the double.
Stack. I think we get the double stack.
That's about brainer. What a nice tight in.
I thought that was a really good call last round.
Going with Purdy, I think made sense in part because you hope
that Higby can maybe swim back around, but I love that.
I'm a fan as as far as I'm concerned with being obviously
down on Jefferson and all that. And some of the chat was asking
when does he become a value? I'm sure that's more directed at
me. I think he's a like a pickable
guy at the end of drafts. Like, I think he's like a just a
a deep threat. Wire.
Really. He's going to run a ton of
routes, dude. I don't think he is.
I don't think he's good enough. He hasn't been good enough the
last couple years. I think he's going to get beat
out at some point this season. Pretty clearly he's not good.
So Marcus Robinson is not gonna beat anybody.
Like he's the third wide receiver I guess, but that's, I
mean he's been, I mean there's a reason they're talking about
Puka Nakua, who by the way played at UW and was terrible
and had to transfer away from UW cuz he couldn't get on the field
and one played at BYU. Man, if he's bad, do.
You know what I love about this? Everyone just types up Puka.
Will you play shit on Puka? I'm sick of this.
Yeah. Dude had to transfer away from
UW because he couldn't get on the field, went to BYU and is
now like the camp darling because they're like, fuck,
we're stuck with another year of Van Jefferson.
But that's why I don't think De Marcus Robinson's good.
I think litter. I wasn't touting Kenny Golladay
taking his routes early this offseason.
I was like, oh, if he, you know, reunites with Matthew Stafford,
they're gonna run him out there because, like, I literally think
those guys are all terrible. Which gets back to Tyler Higby.
Pat, you know, I don't like Tyler Higby, but I got Tyler
Higby pencilled in for like 80 targets.
Like that dude is getting volume no one else puts up.
Can we get Gallup here falling all the way to the?
15th Yeah, I think that's great. Let's do it and let's take lock
when I've not been wrong on it. It's not take Van Jefferson
hasn't done shit. You guys like go look at his
numbers? No, no, they're not talking
about that. Everyone loves puka and so they
get bad when you say something precious about about puka.
The All right, so our team here. So we do.
We got some nice stacks going, right?
We got the Stafford Cup, Higbee. We got the Lamar Jackson, Rashad
Bateman and Dobbins. And then we have the pretty IU
and Eli Mitchell. Those are some fun team.
That's that's nice we did. We got the correlation going,
for sure. Van Jefferson comes off the
board. Aw shucks, says Ben Gretch.
I was really hoping you would go before you guys had to point out
that he was at some point going to be draftable on this roster.
I mean. He he ran.
He ran 27 rounds a game last year, which is a fair phrase.
Did you want to take him there over Gallup?
No, no, I I prefer Gallup. I mean, I guess for the
correlation, but I don't know, I still like Gallup better.
I think 82%. Yeah, right.
Last year he ran a lot of routes.
Did you? Cuz I listened to all the ETR
man verse, not man verse machine, but your guys's
projection pod. But now I can't remember.
Did you and Leone argue about Jefferson?
Because ETR is like way ahead of market on Jefferson.
Yeah, why didn't you? Yeah, that's.
Just like a biggest difference. We've probably already done that
last year. I just think we both were tired
of it. I think I I was like not
interested in arguing about him at that point.
And I don't think Leone was either.
And so we just didn't do it. The Chad's saying he had a good
second season. He was wide receiver 31 that
year. I've written about this before.
He had three catches of 65 plus yards.
He was one of only five players to have two or more.
He had three explosive plays right In his career.
He has five games of 65 or more yards.
Three times that he caught a 65 yard pass and two other times in
his career he has zero 100 yard games even though he's caught 65
yard passes 3. Times He's never even gone to
100 yards in any of those games or any other game.
He's not good. Just caught a couple long
passes. When you and you all are
confused, we'll just just we'll talk about it next offseason
when I'm right against. Top at next offseason when he's
a 14th round pick and Ben is once again tilted his buck.
I will be tilted again next year.
Actually, I don't think he will be because he he's gonna be a
free agent next year and no one's gonna sign him because he
isn't. He isn't good.
I agree. He's gonna lose his job by Week
6 and then no one's gonna sign him.
But then he's not. I mean, he seems like a great
human being. As Pete has pointed out before.
That's the one really tough part about this.
He does. The real answer here, the real
answer is is 2 two out. Well guys, that's that's the
real answer. Apparently he's he's behind
Robinson now I. I gotta run to the podium, pick
for us right here, Gerald Everett.
Love it. I mean.
The other tight ends we're looking at, we're down huge tier
guys, so Juan Johnson's off the board.
I'm in. I'm in.
Gerald Everett. Yeah, Gerald Everett, let's
kiss. It feels great.
Gerald Everett, I take a lot of Everett.
And I do need to alert We are now officially on defensive
watch. We got.
The defense is coming off. It's coming off first here.
Fast and furious. Oh yeah, I guess the defenses
came off first last time. Yeah.
But the Ravens kicker was the the third.
OK, so it went. It went. 49ers, Eagles, Ravens,
kicker last time. And then all the defenses came
off. Yeah, purple cranking purple on
NFFC is cranking kickers. I'm loving the chat.
I'm sorry, Greg says. My girlfriend's like why is he
yelling and I don't know how to explain it.
Tyler wants to say Matt Murphy was stolen valor.
He did one up him with a $2.69 chat instead of $2.00 so all is
restored in the horny chat streets.
Did I just see Michael? Wilson go off the board there.
Holy shit. Yeah, you guys are killing it.
I love it. J Mike's comment was funny.
Yards per Grinch is funny. I'm enjoying these.
Yards per Grinch. That is.
That would be a great Halloween costume for you, Ben.
You know that photo up on Twitter?
Yards per Grinch that does numbers.
That does some legit. I gotta do that this year, Yeah.
If you can somehow take a picture, I'm talking to my wife
right now, I'm. If you can do the costume next
to Leone and it just makes him look really short and weird,
that might be the most viral. Picture You guys want to get the
Iron Curtain at defense here? Steelers Chiefs, Broncos.
Commuters mean Joe Green's having a breakout season this
year. Iron Curtain.
Well, it's, you know, we didn't get Kenny Pickett.
Because, like, the defense is gonna be scoring so much and
that's gonna keep the ball out of the hands of Canada.
No, it's cuz they're gonna Pickens is just gonna be lighten
up the scoreboard, so they're gonna have to throw to catch up
and we're just gonna get picked. OK, there we go.
Look at these defenses coming off the board.
I will recap our team here. So our quarterbacks, we got
three of them. Lamar Jackson.
Matthew Stafford. Brock Purdy.
Our running backs. Josh Jacobs.
Jacobs. JK Dobbins.
Isaiah Pacheco. A J Dillon.
Eli Mitchell. Wide receivers.
Cooper Cup. Devonta Smith.
Brandon and I. You, George Pickens, Rashad
Bateman. Michael Gallup Titan.
Tyler Higbee and Gerald Everett team defense.
The Pittsburgh Steelers? Let's.
Get it? Way more balanced.
If the Deem says the fun part of the draft is over when there's a
D Aval edge, no. This was the most exhilarating
part of the draft. You could get to 3 defenses and
three kickers. You gotta get to 3 defenses and
three kickers while also trying to get a few little value picks
squeezed in and push it cuz otherwise you don't want to
capitulate to the room, just let them push it around.
Uh oh. The horny Bros are trying to out
tip each other. Matt Murphy comes in 369.
I am not horny. I do not deserve box.
The lady doth protests too much Matt Murphy anytime you write I
am not horny in capital letters with with a request super chat.
Of 369. You really want to look in the
mirror at that moment. I need a I need a $69 seat party
to leave. That you're not actually hoardy.
They still put the newspaper that I was horny.
How about an update on who's drafting the fastest?
I'm refreshing here to see how our drafters are doing.
Why? Why isn't it showing right now?
Did were people drafting too fast?
That it it it broke this feature on 1st Tyler's Now give me a a
pet talk about how it's OK to be horny.
No, don't. That was lovely comment too.
She's like as a lady in the room.
I do not believe you. You guys, this is what happens.
You guys encourage this behavior and then I have to deal with it
on all of my streams the rest of the week.
OK, so we got. We got to be careful with.
The positive reinforcement, I mean we can go back to the
Immaculate grid. I haven't done today's yet.
Oh my God, it's like a world. Trivia that thing.
It's like a. It's a new one every day.
Yeah. It's like world.
Exactly. Oh, cool.
Yeah, I got it. I heard about it on that
bachelor party it was on a couple weeks ago.
Oh, we. Are all right we're on the
clock. Are we feeling we feeling this
defensive run here? I think we just got to lean into
it. You guys want to get the Browns?
Since we didn't get Chub for sure, we'll leverage that Peg.
All right, I got it back up. So our fastest drafters right
now, Chris Ney is 3 seconds, Kevin Tompkins at 3 seconds,
Sanderson's down to four seconds in Louisiana.
Just a bedrock of. How did Sanderson get from 10
down to four and Tompkins is at 3?
Yep. I'm at time Sanderson here.
Tompkins is at 3. Ooh, Sanderson just lost.
That was a 5 second. That was a 5 second pick.
Yeah, poor pit stop there. Unfortunate Tompkins.
I'm. I'm unimpressed that you've
fallen to three. How are you not ready for this?
Where's the pick? Yeah, there's the pick.
There's the. There we go.
Now we're there. We back Tompkins.
Now it's That was a hell of a turn.
He's back. Speaking of Jacob Sanderson, so
I've been doing my best ball after darks.
If you guys are YouTube members on the channel, you get access
to that. Also get access to our FFPC main
event mini soda series. But I'm going to do best ball
after dark with Sanderson. I know you guys have all gotten
to do shows with him. The only times I've interacted
with him are on drunken ship chasing draft parties and live
hang. So I'll get a proper sit down
with Jacob on Thursday night. Great dude.
I have not actually done a show with him yet.
One-on-one, I don't think, but got a meet him in person.
Awesome guy. Where are we at With how many DS
do we have left? I think we grab a third here and
close it. You guys want to close?
123-4567, Eight left. Texans, Rams, Vikings, Titans,
Bears, Falcons, Cardinals, Raiders.
I don't care which one. Say those again.
Rams, You want to load up on this?
Rams, Vikings, Titans, Bears, Texans, Falcons.
I would go, I think I would go. Titans all.
Right. Literally, if anyone pounds the
table for a defense, they get that defense.
Tennessee Titans come up, let's pound the table.
You got rookie QBs in that division.
You're gonna play Stroud twice. You're gonna play Richardson
twice. Mike Vrabel, good coach.
I hate to say guys, I think we starved the B set defense.
I mean the the room is panicking right now.
Team Six is just controlling the room right now the way that
Falcons was in there. NASA's Falcons, they made some.
Yeah, Falcons was the Falcons. Didn't we take Falcons last
week? I think we did last week.
Yeah. Yeah, they've added.
We did. We did.
I remember talking about they added Jesse Bates and then I was
like. No, we need and we took it up.
We took the Titans on back-to-back weeks.
Yeah, that's the stand, dude. We have 100% exposure to the
Titans. 100% exposure. We didn't take the oh, we did we
get sniped on the Falcons, I think.
We get sniped on the Falcons and then we had a chance to get the
Titans. Yeah, wow. 17 rounds in less
than 45 minutes just goes to show you the value of the merch
and the overset dot Shopify store the quality here, just
encouraging drafters to rip in their picks.
It's pretty impressive. We are shout to say feel.
Falcons was the answer. Falcons was the guys.
Falcons was probably the right answer.
There it was. You seem so excited.
I literally was about to say the Falcons and I was just like, Ben
seems happy, so I'm just gonna let.
I don't fucking care. I'm always happy when I'm
drinking beers. Yeah.
Forget detours from wide receiver.
Why are detours for DSD? That's how you live alone.
You want to feel something to take a detour away for that,
yeah. That's my that's my next video
on the Deposit Kingdom YouTube channel.
How to survive a defensive avalanche in production on that
Right now, I can't believe that the Falcons are still here.
I mean, geez. You want to go for defenses.
If they come back, maybe. Oh well, they're they go.
They can snap. Pick up the turn.
It happens. You guys thinking about grabbing
a kicker here maybe? Or do we want to be a little?
A little cute. Push it.
I I am very ready. Can we play Ave.
Maria? Oh no.
He went four hours. No, he's gone.
He's long. He's long gone.
I there's one guy, can we take Tyler Tyler bass and play that
planet of the Bass song? It's a very tenuous connection
there, grad, but it might. It's felt the same.
Who was the guy you were
floating pat? I was going to maybe float a
detour away from from the kickers.
Float it. Michael Mayer.
I'm good with that. If we're behind that, let's do
it right in here. All right, let's.
Do it. Sure hope we don't get shut out
at kicker, guys. Wow.
Falcons kicker just snap selected right after us.
I'm sorry. My palms are starting to get
sweaty again. Yeah, it is.
It is tough out on the streets, Richie.
James, the Richie James selection.
Does you guys remember that I DMD you.
I don't think either of you acknowledge it, but I did
reference that we have a new clip, you guys.
I did that. Oh, let's take that clip.
I want to take that clip. I don't remember it.
Electric. Electric Tyler showed up late,
but he knows. He knows what's going on.
Pat, I'll put it in the queue. Who we have a clip for.
I'm not taking him. I did not realize his AVP is
actually like, like, risen on It's high.
It's a high. It's a it's a Yeah, it's
completely missed that. Wow.
I love Only only Henry would get so worked up about this team. 11
shutout with only one defense. That's not playing the defensive
game right. You just got body bagged by
Henry Budo. Wow.
Wow.
Now, it might seem like Henry's shouting, but as established
earlier in the show, the ALL CAPS just means that he's horny.
The 69 cent Super Chat didn't come through, but I can confirm
Henry Muto is horny for these drafts.
He's horny for everyone playing optimally, so you want to we got
to take a kicker picker. We got to get a kicker like
real. We got a different, We got a
different clip, we can roll. Remember when Chris Allen told
us about the wind tunnels at Foxborough?
We can't take Patriots kicker, OK, take a different one.
We got to take a kicker, Charger, Chargers, Chargers
kick. But you got a different clip
that you need to play right now. Which clip is that?
What time is it? 10/22 Oh, I'm sorry, fucking
kickers. We have so many.
Goddamn. Clips of the Hopper, It's
ridiculous kicker chasing. It's the show where we chase the
best kickers, the kickers that help you win championships, the
biggest legs, the breaking news. It's everything you've come to
love and know the time is now for kicker chasing.
Let's get some fucking kickers. It is a huge fail on my part
that I didn't play that last week or pick up on what you were
suggesting. That's on me.
It's better loss as we played that.
It's it's one of our best clips. That's low key.
Like a top top. Incredible clip, yeah.
I like the we're we're clips. So it was so funny, guys.
I went because I was, I was looking at something, looking at
some of our really old drafts way back when, and I was tabbing
through an old one with Blair and Hassan and literally just
tabbed through. And I kid you not, it's Blair
going. He's like Justin Tucker's not
making it back if we want him that that was.
The moment on the stream that I heard, I so shout out to to
Blair for always getting the kicker.
Love going around here? Blair made the Ave.
Maria clip, right? Is that is that a player?
No. He conceptualized it and then
someone executed it. Or am I wrong?
Did he make it? He might have that.
I might be fucking that up. Maybe he did make it.
I know I can, but Blair showed up with the Ave.
Maria clip one time. Yeah, I might be wrong too.
We're on the clock. Do we want to do another kicker
here? Giant Steelers, Broncos.
Jets, Rams, Panthers. 18 out. Yeah, I think we didn't take
one. Who do you want?
I didn't hear the teams. What were the?
Teams Giants, Steelers, Broncos, Jets, Rams, Panthers, Browns,
Texans. Giants Jets.
Seems fun all. Right, Giants It is Giants.
Sure. We did.
He's like literally the 1st team.
I hear I'm clicking. I don't think we want.
The D and the kicker right? I don't know, maybe they just
ping pong weeks and they just crush one of them.
Just crushes every week. Well, yeah, I'm still waiting
for the Defensive Kicker Correlation Manifesto to drop on
ETR to help inform these decisions.
Let's chase some fucking kickers.
Since we're drafting 3 kickers, can we play the clip twice?
Is that a thing? Seems fair.
Where are we at on kick? Are we sweating this right now,
1234? So there's 123456789 left.
OK. I I like how Jake in the 11
after getting shut out on defense he's like I ain't
letting this happen. I might take kickers.
I'm gonna take 7 kickers and hope you go 4 defense.
Dude, look at the front side of the board with their kickers.
A-Team 11 kicker Team 31 kicker Team 41 kicker UH oh.
No, no, no, no, no. I'm feeling good.
Two weeks in a row we we've navigated the kicker and the
defense. Run with these with these.
How's the how are the times going, Pete?
Is Tompkins down to one second yet or where are we at?
I. I will, I will.
Let's Do you guys want Texans, Bucks, Packers, Cardinals or
Titans Kicker? I feel like the Packers feel
like they're the most. Are the Titans maybe?
No, the Packers kicker sucks, apparently.
But yeah, all right, we got him. Redemption, Justin Ross Goes.
Do you want to play it? I think we should.
It's a new clip. I was working with our crew on
this one. Let me let's get let's get this
clip going. See, I don't know why we don't
have a Justin Ross clip, but I want to roll that clip too.
Justin Ross does feel like a guy.
We should have a clip. For we should definitely have a
clip for Justin Ross. Today he's like, this guy's
employed since 2012. I'm like, dude.
I want to kill Davis as as the Justin Ross drum beat gets gets
louder. My pushback was dude.
Shout out to Chris Diaz for working on that clip.
I sent him lots of edits last week on that.
Justin Ross now in the hopper, baby.
Love it. All right, guys.
We survived the kicker, Chris. If you want to send me the Chris
Diaz cut, I would love to see your version.
Of Yeah, I actually would. Also, I'd be to see your vision
too. I like how you guys
automatically. I want to know the original
author's vision. All this good stuff.
I want, I want to see the Diaz cut.
That's all. I just want to see the Diaz cut.
Yeah, you know what it it did come in at like $1.10 when he
said it to me, I was like 30 second clip, Chris.
Listen, as someone who's created an amazing clip and had it cut
down, I also would like to see what you're do.
You know what I do? You know what I should create
for YouTube members? I should just create a playlist
that's like director's cut of all the clips.
Yeah, it's just like a three more clip, like an hour and a
half long. My Dalton's clip was at least 15
more seconds long before trust before the notes came in.
Come on. Come on.
Just trust me here, all right? We We're done at quarterback,
we're done at kicker, we're done at defense.
So we're looking at running backs, wide receivers here.
We are on the clock. We should probably take a
running back before they're all like so, so gone, right, like
Clyde Awards, the layer just went are there any?
Say Devonte Parker is a starting wide receiver over there.
That's fine. Whatever.
We can take. Devonte Parker.
Yeah. Enjoy.
Those few catches in week two, you've been you've been on ADP
chasing too many, too long. I mean, he he is like, he might
be the number one wide receiver on a team.
Like, not kidding. Like.
And it's 24th round. Yeah, I know, I know.
It's actually leader on an NFL team.
Like, I'm coming around to this. It's trending that way.
Taekwon Thornton went in round 16 and we got to Monte Park on
round 24. Remember last week's?
It was like don't take Taekwon Thornton over to Monte Parker.
He just closed the computer was like, I'm out, I'm out of here.
He went 8 rounds ago. Sam was.
We should probably take Parker at this point.
He turned it off when Taekwon Thornton went and Parker had it.
We we have that spreadsheet, 34 round deep stack spreadsheet.
I pulled it up. I got a couple names for you
guys. One of them Puka.
Some guys in the queue that I enjoy, I just threw one in
that's like might legit be a 30th rounder.
But he, I think will work with what we're doing here.
I don't mind. I would.
I like him. One of yours.
Yeah, I would say. I like both.
Like just looking at the tears here, it does feel like a tight
end. Tears about to get wiped out.
And we see Hunter. Hunter.
I kind of like Ferguson Ferguson Gala Yeah.
Yeah, I'm. I'm totally down with.
Him and then I feel pretty good about tight end, right Higbee,
Everett Mayer and Ferguson. That's a great group.
Yeah. Tell you play late round tight
end in the 34 round draft. I don't know.
I mean, I don't know. I don't know if you guys know.
That's how you do it. Is is our guy Greg from NFFC in
the in the chat. Greg, is this the fastest NF
FC34 round draft you've ever seen?
This has to be close to setting a.
Record This probably set the record for.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Maybe maybe like a live.
Draft or people are just firing it in.
I think so. Let's check in on our fast
drafters here. Oh wow.
So we got Tomkins holding it down at 2:00.
Zuke's at 3, Sanderson's at 4 seconds and Chris Negas at 3
seconds. But you pulled.
That up? Yeah, here it is.
I want to see this. Yeah, So right here, us 27
seconds. For great shame.
Kevin Hopkins, 2. Sanderson got down to four.
Wow. Yeah, Sanderson's really lost
his fastball ever since he got invited on Best Ball after dark.
He's just kind of like got the contract and now he's just
phoning it in. Unimpressive.
So we have skoo guys at three and Tompkins at 2A.
Real Barn Murder. We might have a tie.
Yeah, Mac Nova. Really holding up this draft at
12 seconds here. I like this is just an NFC.
We'll need to go to decimal seconds to break a tie, right?
All right, back to the draft board.
Let's focus up, guys. We gotta stick this landing.
So I threw a guy in the private chat.
Yeah, I'm down with that. I am definitely down with that.
That's a guy that should be going in underdog best balls.
Yeah, like, I've thought that several times.
Guy Davis took him today in our Our Soul cast draft in the 18th
round. Kiante Ingram.
Yeah, 26 round feels pretty good.
Apparently the beats Arizona beats saying that.
I can't remember the name of the guy who was on the Rotor World
podcast. This is the same beat reporter
that that reported that in in practice.
Colt McCoy is, you know, he's nursing some injury, so he's
dropping back. And going through his reads and
then he's pointing at which receiver he would throw it at,
No? I did see that.
He's not point. He's yes, dude, this is
happening. He's pointing at the receiver
that would throw it at. I love that.
I love that for them. Do they have someone throwing
the ball? Can't throw it because he can't
throw the ball, so he's going like you.
That's where I would throw it. You got to get the mental reps
in Pat. This is it's like.
I I play through drafts in my head as I fall asleep.
I'm not actually clicking it, but I'm like I would take JSN
here in the latest. Six.
That's sick, man. I mean, yeah.
But okay, so that that obviously was the now.
This is now the third the third show where I heard that laughed
hard. Had Pat had wrote a Pat, Denny
and Kyle on on Legendary Upside podcast.
We laughed really hard about that and now I've shared it
again. But it's the funniest thing I've
ever heard. It's incredibly, it's incredibly
funny. That is legitimately, incredibly
funny. Puka Nakua went.
They didn't even spell his name right.
They they spelled his name, the cow.
It's Nakua. Wow, they spelled it like the
city. All right.
We are on the clock here again. Do we have anything?
This has been getting some buzz. I mean, just saying this, I'm
just saying we could throw Jamarcus Robinson onto the
stack. I'm just saying.
Is you want to take Visca? We got to take Visca to Marcus.
Let's take Visca, let's take Visca.
Sorry. I do believe.
Let me check the clips. Do we have a clip for Visca?
I can't remember there's.
I mean, how can you listen to the Asta La Vista and not just
want to move, baby? We we just got our generations
Devo Samuel in round 27. That's beautiful.
I don't know if you guys heard, but he ran in a TD at practice.
They're saying they're going to use him a lot of different ways,
maybe even some goal line rushing.
I mean, I'm just saying they're talking about maybe even
utilizing him in that way. You know, you know what would
make me feel better would be if Visca started sending shirtless
photos of himself to Frank, right?
Yeah, I think that would really. That's what we need.
I'm in the best shape of my life, coach.
I wanted to note that that Cardinals beat reporter also
said that County Ingram is the clear #2 and would likely be the
clear early down back if Connor were to go down so that.
Even who else would even be in the mix to be the?
Right. I don't even, I don't even know.
Oh, Cory Clement. I think at least Cory Clement
would be on a passing down pass blocker.
But that's the point, right? There's like no one else.
Yeah, it's super thin. I remember doing their
projections and being like, OK, Chianti, Ingram, They have Tyson
Williams as well now, but like probably not a thing.
We could just take a lot of receivers now because we only
took five early. We have 8:00, but we could take
like 12 I think. I think.
We want to do the DeMarcus Robinson, yeah, all right.
There you go, Ben. Roll the clip.
You said yeah, you had the clip ready.
Producer Roll the DeMarcus Robinson clip.
That was a waste effect. But you?
Know producer. Whatever sad soul Dms me
tomorrow with the DeMarcus Robinson clip.
I do not have time to go back and forth with you on edits, I'm
telling. You Yeah.
It better be 30 seconds or it's not See the light of day.
There's only like probably 10 seconds of footage to even work
with. It would just be funny if it was
just him, like jogging out on the field for every team he's
played for and then to never actually playing football.
Good suggestions, Ben. I put both of those.
And your initial one in the chat.
Too Nice. It does feel weird to play coy
about getting sniped on Nelson Aguilar but you know we got we
got a two. Did he go?
No. I just like, why are we
tiptoeing around about Jawad Jennings?
And I know seriously, it's really, it's really not.
I just had to cut the charade. You know, we are on the clock
here. You want Nelson Aguilar?
Yeah, I'll stick. Nelson Aguilar.
Stack that bitch up. Stack that bitch up Marcus
Robinson and Nelson Aguilar. I mean, there's nothing that
gets me going more than taking those guys back-to-back in
around 2829. We did.
I mean, we, man, we went a long time without a wide receiver, so
it's time to catch up with Visca, DeMarcus and Aguilar.
Yeah. I mean, geez, I mean, I don't
know if you know this about 34 round drafts, but there's a real
edge to be had with the these late round stacking and
structural decisions you. Know well what I've always said
is if you don't have your own Google sheet with super deep
stacking candidates that you're also referencing throughout the
draft, you're paying the rake is kind of what I'm saying you're
you're giving up at least point 3.5% win equity.
Look at this. Checking in here, we got four
more rounds. Let's see.
I want to see if we have anything heating up in the
fastest draft contest here. Kevin Tompkins still holding it
down at 2. Sanderson and Zooks at 3
seconds. Sanderson down from 4 seconds to
three. He could push another tie If I
have to send Sanderson another. I love wide receivers Bucket
hat. I'm going to be down so bad.
So Kevin Tompkins, can you can you hold him off for me?
Steve Sanders said at 3 seconds here.
Oh my goodness you guys. I can't believe we are in
August. We are like I'm certainly spoke
about the Vegas trip. Like we're we're a month away
from partying with the with the chat in Vegas with the with the
piss boys in Vegas. We're a month away.
Last year was my first year doing it and it was a fucking
blast and tickets are booked. We're.
I mean, Pat's buying the the pizzas you were talking about a
little bit ago. I'm excited.
Pat's getting everyone their own personal.
Everybody gets their own. Maybe we'll have to discuss.
Maybe ah Ben Scurronic, we got snapped on on.
Man, I forgot about Scurronic all right.
About to make our 300 and or the 354 selection in this draft.
Can you 354? I have a guy I'd like to float
at running back. Is that a real #354?
Pics have been made. Yeah, or we're going to be the
354th here when we're on the clock.
That's crazy. Our last pics, the 402nd.
Overall, there's 400 pics of these things.
It's incredible, That's. Amazing, Latavius, Murray goes.
Honestly, not that bad of a pick.
We got to find a guy who has an ADP of like 380 for that 400 you
want to. Do who do you want to float,
Pat? I was going to float Jordan
Mason, who's apparently loved that, doing really well in camp.
I just, yeah, I just love him. He's a he's a good fucking
player. Anytime you can handcuff a
backup running back in a 34 round back and do it.
Hey man, handcuffed Elijah Mitchell and we that's literally
what we did. Like, no, no.
No, that's I I don't mind it. Right.
You're like, you're betting. You made a bet on party.
Yeah, what? Were you guys, you guys were
giving me pushback on some other wide receiver I wanted to take
last year that you said was? A handcuff for one of our other
wide receivers and I can't remember who it was now.
Well, listen, man, if you remember, let us.
I don't remember. It was like something.
It was something with Kendrick Bourne and Tyquon Thorn or
something. Something stupid.
I'm sure JA Juan Jennings did just get sniped.
Oh JA Juan Jennings. Are you kidding me?
He just likes. Where do you get your ideas,
Sanderson the. Fuck is oh, I got.
I got another one. JA Juan Jennings.
Clear. What Sanderson doesn't know is
there's always another dusty 49ers wide receiver who won't.
No, you're not going Danny Gray, are you?
Yeah, that's what I put in the queue.
You better believe God. Damn it, Kyron Williams.
Andrew has been long gone. He went like 3 rounds ago.
All right, let's play. You know what?
Let's go, Danny Gray. I'm not allowed to draft in BBM.
Anymore, who's actually having a decent camp and could build out
our Dallas bet? Jalen Tolbert.
This guy just put Danny Gray in the queue and then goes to Jalen
Tolbert. Screw you, I'm taking.
I'm getting my Jalen Tolbert exposure over here.
I was silently making that noise due to Jalen Tolbert.
How did he knock it on the field over Noah Brown last year?
Like that's really. Cowboys A fourth receiver and
he's probably really bad. You're not allowed to take him
in BBM anymore. Have you taken him in BBM
before? Yes, it ended up being a bit
where I needed another stacking partner for DAC and then I
begged the chat to justify that I could select Jalen Tolber and
then I vowed I would not take a single share of him.
The rest of Best ball mania. So I am having to get my
exposure over here. So you've had one one and Jacob
in the chat says he's underdog. Exposure to 1.
Jennings also not 0%. So you guys are out here taking
the guys that you've taken, you know, at least one time in real
dress. It happens.
I mean, Juan Jennings, Spike
League potential is that, you know, fifth option in the
passing game. Who was the Was it?
Was it Richie James that had that really big game for the
Niners a couple years ago? Yeah, it wasn't.
He dropped like 30 points. He's legitimately good at
football for Richie James. Like I I started to take him in
in underdog a lot. As soon as Tony got hurt, my
response was take more sky, more, but more.
Mostly more Richie James. That's what Davis is doing too.
A lot of people like him a lot. I don't.
He's good. I just have probably getting
excited about him. But I get it.
And he probably will play some. He's the total.
He's the total type of guy that's good enough.
Like Greg, George also comes to mind on this, which is funny
because Dave's is kind of on him too, but like good enough for
like if the routes open up, he'll be productive, he'll give
you usable weeks or whatever, right?
So like, if you can take him really late and it seems like
the routes might open up in Kansas City, I think he's going
to make the team. I mean, I think he'll make the
team. Yeah, he's a punt returner, so
he probably makes it for that. I think I might have found
someone, all right, I'm kind of drunk, so I don't really care.
I was excited about arguing about the 32nd round, but now
I'm, you know, I'm in, Jalen told her.
Sounds great. Just looking for receivers that
I can plausibly float. Wow, Ronald Jones go.
I guess that guy didn't hear about the suspension yet.
This guy. Wow.
This side of the board? Really not helping their their
time. Average time.
Jesus. Yeah, they once they got shut
out at kicker, they really started to phone this in.
I'm sorry guys. I'm getting I'm getting an
itchy. I I can't believe the lighter
guys, sorry it was it was getting too.
Robbie Anderson was, I think, a. A really good pick.
That's what I was saying. I no.
But Patrick Laird was a better pick.
I vote Patrick Laird. Is Barrios already gone?
All right, then. Chosen was fine.
But Laird had to. We owed it to him.
We needed to. Did you?
I mean he objectively more agile than Rashad White.
I love that his name is still, I mean, so he's still Robbie
Anderson in the NFC thing. How many rounds of ADP do you
think keeping his name, Robbie Anderson, in the draft room or
changing it to Chosen Anderson? I'm gonna say 2 rounds in these
34 rounds. If it was chosen, I think he
goes 2 rounds later. Do you guys think everyone knows
about the he'd go earlier? I think so.
I think people recognize the name Robbie Anderson and they
see Chosen Anderson. They're like, who the fuck is
this? How would you even do that as a
man on the street Prompt. You go up to people and you're
like, what do you call this wide receiver?
His last name's Anderson. I'm more in because it's frozen,
to be honest. The you're more in because it
chosen I. Think I'm more in because it
chosen. What?
What about Danny Gray here? I I mean, once Danny Gray falls
to pick 391, I'm windmilling it in you.
You got it. You got it.
Yeah. I mean, I'm in front of the
podium, fellas, Just throwing it off the back porch.
Structurally, what do you guys positionally think we need here
to kind of land this plane in the 34th round big edges to be
at in the structural department? How many Do you know How many
players Alberto just went? We have all right.
We have 3 quarterbacks, 4 tight ends, 8 running backs, 12 wide
receivers, 3 kickers, 3 defense. Feels like we did this well.
Yeah, I feel like that sounds great.
That sounds. Perfect.
Good at this. I I mean, I think we could take
a fit tight end if there's like an Albert O.
Like Albert O is fun. Did you find a fit tight end?
I found a running back. Pat, if you're gonna put a New
England, put them in the private chat.
So I can see. I can't see the queue.
Put it in the private chat.
I want to talk shit about this paper before we're on the clock.
Is that who, Pete? I like Pete's better.
Pete's so much better. Yeah.
I mean, Pat's makes sense, but I like Pete's better.
There's actually like fair amount of money in the top of
this tournament. I think we should.
Take holy shit, this comment
from Cody was such a blast from the past.
Remember when we're all taking Colin Johnson in the last?
Round he's trying a little hype and you said I think he's gotten
hype. Yeah, When you said all, were
you're referring to just you or who else was Collin Johnson?
I was in on Collin Johnson. Pat, don't put that on Johnson
when he was with Jacksonville. You guys are doing it.
Putting Collin Johnson in the queue, dude.
I I'm taking Collin Johnson out of the queue.
Collin Johnson's out of the queue.
He does have size, which is something that most of that team
doesn't have. Behind the scenes, it's via Pat
Pat putting Collin Johnson in the queue.
It'd be exing him out. This is a real battle here.
We're going to take the show. Pat's running back Kevin Harris.
Roll the play the roll the clip. Roll the Kevin Harris clip.
He's the head of Pierre Strong. That's what the beats roll the
JJ Taylor head. Of Pierre Strong.
Why are we not rolling the JJ Taylor clip?
Because we didn't take him. Anytime you take a depth
Patriots running back, you roll the.
You're the only one who wants to get beer for this stream.
If if I had a beer in the fridge, I would have said let's
take JJ Taylor and I can go grab a beer, but I.
Don't I just. I want to acknowledge what's
about to happen. You have rolled these JJ Taylor
for Ty Montgomery picks before. I just want that out there.
It's happened. We are about to have completed a
34 round draft. In an hour and 19 minutes, God,
that was only an hour. And I think, God, did it take
longer, I would have fucking fallen apart.
Look at that incredible stuff. If, if Mackenzie would just make
his pick here. And really, I mean this might.
Flee over to his last pick. Sanderson snap picks Jamal
Agnew. Oh wow.
That was the quickest pick by Kevin.
I was literally about to get out.
And who won? Stephanie, You're right.
I have to pee. You're absolutely right.
All right. Here he goes.
Drumroll please. Winner Kevin Tompkins back.
Back records for Kevin Tompkins he drafts.
Fastest Slow draft, then a two second time in the World's
Fastest 34 Round draft. Everyone, round of applause for
Kevin and to our other contenders, Zooks, Sanderson and
Chris Negas, all with three seconds.
Well done, well done for the three seconds guys.
Hat tip for them as well. Well played.
All right, it's time to recap this team here for the people.
It's a novel. All right, should we?
Do you want to go and order by round, or do we want to do it by
position? What's what's a cleaner way to
do this? Either way, I say we just, you
know, fax. By position if you want.
I just found a really nice screen for this.
It's the roster grid. This is nice.
This is how you look at it. Look at this.
This is nice. This is real nice here.
Quarterback Lamar Jackson, Matthew Stafford, Brock Purdy.
Running Backs Josh Jacobs, JK Dobbins, Isaiah Pacheco, A J
Dylan, Eli Mitchell. Chianti Ingram.
Jordan Mason. Patrick.
Praise the Laird and Kevin Harris.
Wide receivers Cooper Cup. Devonta Smith.
Brandon, Are you? George Pickens?
Rashad Bateman. Michael Gallop?
Devonte Parker Leviscus Chanel DeMarcus Robinson.
Nelson. Agalord.
Jalen Tolbert and Danny Gray. Tight.
It's Tyler Higbee, Gerald Everett, Michael Mayer and Jake
Ferguson. Three beautiful defenses.
The Chargers, the Giants and the Packers.
And imagine not also having or Sorry, those were kickers.
And then imagine not having three defenses as well.
Steelers, Browns and Titans. Fellas, How do we feel about
this masterpiece? I mean two things.
One, this is a this is a beautiful site page.
I I feel great. Really.
This is really nice. This is really nice.
Two, Jacob mentioned. We need the sauce 34 round
edition and I'm totally down if you guys are down.
Yeah, I mean. Isn't it interesting just real
quick, like how if you look at the running backs here, like how
everyone kind of clustered to very similar amounts of running
backs without. Yeah, like, obviously none of us
have like a set number we were trying to get to in a 34 round
draft, but we kind of. We kind of felt it out pretty
similarly. Paul makes a good point.
Are you guys worried the 3912433 construction will be too choppy?
I'm a little bit worried. Yeah, I do.
I find it to be. It's the extra 33.
It's the three, three, three on the end.
The 3912433 Yeah, I'd much prefer to be in the 31011433
range. Well, Pat, the cluster on wide
receivers is even tighter. Wow, look at that.
So everyone within what? What is this?
1-234-567-8910 to 13, no more, no less, on wide receivers.
Same with tight ends, three to five.
No one did 6. Interesting.
And everyone had at least two defenses or two kickers except
for Jake. Not enough sauce in the world
for Solo anchor Packers. Must be his first 34 round draft
guys. Jake is in the chat.
Didn't leave. Say every draft has a chance to
learn. Oh my goodness.
Anything else? Let's see any other.
Who took the least amount? Everyone had at least three
quarterbacks. I keep forgetting taste of is
flagged as a quarterback on here, which is funny taste of
the QV quarterback. Yeah, can I see that you got
drafted as QV? I don't think he's draftable.
Skills Kyler, Ritter, Lance per set.
That's interesting. I'm surprised that's John, huh?
Look at this anchor anchor quarterback build, Josh Allen,
then Mike White, Kyle Trask and Davis Mills.
Like cow. That's living a little.
That is living some. Yeah.
Let's see here. Trask is.
Apparently making it Making it a competition by the way.
Or rather, Baker Mayfield is throwing interceptions every day
and making it a competition with Trask but not a four drawn
conclusion. Baker's like actually pointing
to the defender he's going to throw to before he.
Throws it. They might tell him to start
doing that. It's getting that I want to
throw a pick to him on this. You get a pick, you get a pick.
I agree JGFC, when you look at this, it is the Patrick Laird
pick. That really does seem to to
differentiate us here for sure. I mean, I am pumped for the
layered, usable weeks like that we get.
If he gets in the lineup one time, this team fucking.
If you get to the roof. If you get 4 1/2 PPR points from
your 32nd round pick, you are doing cartwheels.
You don't. Absolute cartwheels.
The ceiling is the roof for that team.
Where would you have taken Lance?
We don't have to do a hypothetical.
Chun took him on his team Fields, Kyler, Ritter, Lance and
Burset. Can you see what what pick that
was? I can't make it out.
Oh, I think he means would we have taken him because we took
Purdy and had the stack, but we've also taken Lance in a 34
round draft. That's actually kind of
intriguing. Lance went the 27th round.
Yeah, we could have taken him in the 27th and been like, Oh yeah,
we have both Purdy and Lance now.
I mean, he normally falls to the 28th.
When I've been doing these in my free time, like a bit of a
reach. All right, this was fun.
You know what you guys can draft in these?
The $150.00 Football Guys Basketball Championship on NFFC.
Next week we are going to be doing a main event draft on
FFPC. The week following, we'll be
doing that silver bullet. Draft.
If you guys have questions about that, hit us up.
Would love to draft with you guys on stream.
There are still some spots available in that silver bullet
that is on August 16th, 9:30 PM Eastern.
That isn't a 34 round basketball draft.
Sorry Gretch, it is a 20 round managed league single entry.
So everyone gets one bullet and we can battle it out.
Like I said, we're going to have lots of updates coming for you
guys on our full drafting schedule in the coming days.
Pat, Ben, what's going on in your neck of the woods?
Well, you mentioned Jacob Sanderson.
I will be podcasting with him tomorrow as well.
Me and Davis and Jacob are closing out a dynasty series
that we've been doing over the last month or so, and we're
doing a dynasty mailbag tomorrow.
So I tweeted out. Check out my Twitter if you want
to throw in any questions for the Dynasty Mailbag, or if
you're in the legendary Upside Discord, throw it in the mailbag
channel there and we'll try to get to as many questions as we
can. And I have an article coming out
tomorrow. Be a real short one just on a
little best ball strategy tidbit that I wanted to get out there.
Awesome. What about you, Ben?
I know you've been putting out some new posts on stealing
signals. What else should people check
out? Yeah, I mean, I kind of drag my
feet most of the offseason. And then August comes around and
I start feeling stressed out and I start writing a ton.
So I've been doing all the offseason, stealing signals,
posting through six of the 8 divisions.
Those are very long breakdowns of every team for all the
subscribers. I mean, you guys know there's a
lot in there. Talk about every player.
After I get through those or maybe even before I finish the
7th and 8th, I'm gonna start doing.
I haven't got my initial ranks out yet but I'm I'm, I've
already started working on them. Ranks are coming.
Team I value touch piece is coming.
Targets and fades. Positional tiers piece edge of
last year for each position is coming and then a couple like
standalone pieces are also coming.
So a lot. I'm gonna be writing like pretty
much every day now. So I I just kind of drag my feet
all year and then I just write all the time and as Casey says
here the stealing signals division previews are clutched.
Thank you Gretch. If you guys are in the the ship
chasing Discord we do, you can get those posts, get piped in
there whenever a fresh one drops obviously in your inboxes as
well. It is as as we were saying here,
I mean it's August, we are all going to be pumping out content,
ripping a ton of drafts, going to be a super fun time here on
the channel. Appreciate all you guys hanging
out in the chat. Appreciate NFFC for having us
and getting us set up with these fun 34 round drafts.
We got the link down below. Even if you don't want to
compete in the Silver Bullet, hop on over to NFFC.
Check out all the offerings they got.
Our guys over at Fantasy Life, Dwayne and Ian, they've been
doing some in their Roto Wire Championships which have a
massive $250,000 top prize in that contest.
So that's a managed league too. So all kinds of offerings over
there on NFFC. You can join us in playing and
competing this August. We will see you guys what will
be next, next Wednesday for an FFPC main event draft.
And in the meantime we do have our mini sod series that's
trickling out. The first one, public one hit,
the podcast feed and then the video version of all those are
available to YouTube members. We're through I believe through
round eight on those video versions.
So if you want the the early access, you can become a YouTube
member. So for Pat, I'm Pete, for
Gretch. We'll see you guys next time.
Peace.