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We're back back-to-back FFPC 
main events. 

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We had Sean Siegel last night 
and tonight we got our guy Ben 

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Gretch from stealing Signals, 
the ship chasing OG member back 

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in the saddle. 
We're drafting from the One O 2.

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Who knows what can we possibly 
select at One O 2 on an FFPC 

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beta Bet Pete with Pat and Ben. 
Let's RIP it. 

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Pat Fryer, Helmo Anita. 
Hand Job. 

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Fix your sight. 
Jamar and Alpha play chase. 

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You can't handle the heat. 
It looks like we're. 

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Finally pissed boys. 
You're right. 

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All right, We got Gretch back, 
Pat looking like he's ready for 

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a night out. 
Hopefully you guys are ready for

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a. 
Night fucking James Dean hair. 

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My God. 
It's wet. 

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I, I literally I just was at, I 
did a stream, ran to the gym, 

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got back like 3 minutes before I
need to be on here. 

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Just took the world's quickest 
shower, but I'm meeting with 

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Vivian's. 
Oh, we're on the clock. 

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OK. 
We really are on the clock. 

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This is the thing about the one 
O 2 Jamar Chase goes Gretsch 

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talk us out your. 
Why is the? 

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Process here. 
So you asked me earlier the 

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clock's not running, which is 
weird. 

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You asked me earlier my 
thoughts. 

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It's to me it's it's pretty 
clearly Bowers. 

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That said, in the time since we 
talked, I did one with Sean at 

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noon and we got the one O 4 and 
built our second Bowers team. 

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If you guys any, I think you 
mentioned that you guys have 

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been getting a lot of Bowers. 
You guys want to build a 

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different way. 
I'm open to it, but. 

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I want, I want. 
The point tonight is to draft 

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the Ben Gretch 2025 team. 
If this was the one draft you 

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were doing, I I want to know who
who's the one O 2? 

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That's the pick we should make. 
I I absolutely love Jameer 

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Gibbs, but the pick is Brock 
Powers in in Titan premium one O

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2 the pick is Brock Powers. 
People forget this is Titan 

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Premium. 
I had to remind some people in 

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the chat last night they they 
thought we way over. 

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Someone told us we overdrafted 
Sam LaPorte to buy 30 picks by 

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ADP and I had to remind them it 
was in fact Titan Premium. 

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This God does all right, now we 
can. 

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Now we can settle in. 
We got the one O 2. 

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Another Brock Bauer share. 
I need this man to stay healthy.

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I need this man to catch a 
fucking million balls. 

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I'd be Yeah, man, be the second 
coming of Travis Kelsey. 

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OK, but as far as needing that, 
there's never really been a bet 

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that I'm more comfortable with 
being this exposed to. 

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There's the entire point of 
fantasy football is to seek 

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outliers like league winning 
ceilings, right? 

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He was an outlier his freshman 
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championship team. 
Led the team with 800 plus 

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yards. 
Lad Mcconkey, Adonai Mitchell, 

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Jermaine Burton, future NFL 
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yard range. 
He's doubling them up. 

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He goes on to be better in yards
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Is next year better? 
His next year has like 5 rushing

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TDs and 200 rushing yards on 
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The receiving profiles off the 
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and breaks the NFL record for 
receipt that Pukuku had just set

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for receptions by a rookie at 
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tight end. 116 catches or 
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Brock Bauer's dip year? 
Where's this like what? 

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Where would the sophomore slump 
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He's so much better than Travis 
Kelsey was going into year 2. 

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He's way better as a production 
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Kelsey got hurt as a rookie. 
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that's anywhere close to this 
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career. 
He's he's maybe the best tight 

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end of all time when we're all. 
Set because even Gronk, I mean, 

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I think with the rookie season 
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into Year 2, even Gronk kind of 
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potential. 
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breakout candidate type of guy 
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like this at all. 
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Wasn't he? 
Wasn't. 

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Prospect profile, Yeah, if you 
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years from from the freshman 
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production. 
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Maybe the route stuff, people 
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going around in the, the, you 
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not. 
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lowering him because he split 
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Of all the first play of the 
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this is what happens when you 
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threw to him. 
He elevated Fort, he landed 

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hard, he sat out. 
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only had eight drop backs. 
So he ran, he ran 4. 

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The the thing was, he only had a
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He ran 4 routes on 8 drop backs.
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were immediately after he made a
like a 35 yard catch and landed 

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hard. 
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off the field for the second 
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game. 
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the 8 snap sample. 
So it's not a 50%. 

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Like that's when you get to a 
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It's not a legitimate 50% 
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The second thing is if if that 
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going to be not low for long 
like they're going. 

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To correct right? 
Right, he's going to correct in 

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Week 3. 
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with my guys, 'cause I was like,
let's we had Bowers basically 

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input like he was God and I was 
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you know, Jesus, you know, he 
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there and that I had to, I had 
to go to the map. 

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But like after we, so we lowered
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But like we still, I think we're
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him. 
So, you know, and he's still one

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O 1 in my my FFPC ranks. 
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didn't not concern me like at 
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have done Dumber things than 
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It's crazy, as crazy as that 
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Maybe they have some stupid idea
about, you know, what, what they

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want to do out of 12 or, you 
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ability at 11 or something like 
that. 

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But it's just like such a. 
It's such a fragile. 

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Concern. 
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Like the The concern won't stand
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because Bowers is so much better
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What it is funny the way you 
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often we're we're trying to 
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be the number one option on 
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It's like we don't like Brock 
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on his team, so it almost seems 
silly to worry about the other 

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tight end. 
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caring about Michael Bayer. 
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better than Jacoby Myers, 
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in, like he is the offense. 
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fair. 
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to pick knits about Mike Kasicki
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there for sure, but not with. 
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round participation last year 
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So like my my knit was kind of 
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get to where McBride is, you 
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Yeah, that's just isn't 
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So that's that's all I'm like, 
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actually like doesn't really 
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now, which would suck. 
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But also he led all tight ends 
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Like they had way more drop 
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little more because of that. 
He had a ton of routes. 

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I already thought his routes 
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and I still think he's counting 
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You're like you're, you're, 
you're expecting the touchdowns 

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in target earning and route 
running in those elements. 

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Like why can't he get better? 
Everyone's like, well, Kyle 

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picks. 
Us to get better. 

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Really good and was worse the 
next year. 

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Laporta was really good and then
was worse the next year. 

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We've only seen three good 
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we're at 100% hit rate of 
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probably going to just get 
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But why are we comparing him to 
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Why not compare him to a guy 
like Puka? 

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Right. 
Exactly that's He's closer to 

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puka than, you know, Sam 
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Let's be honest. 
Yeah, exactly. 

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All right, I'm back in 100% 
Brock Bowers. 

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Let's go back and tell Sean that
we shouldn't take CD Lamb last 

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night. 
We should have taken Brock. 

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We should have if you guys 
missed that one. 

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Go ahead. 
Your draft with Sean was 

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awesome. 
I, I had a blast watching 

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through it this morning. 
I was like, man, I got to follow

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this. 
I better get a giant. 

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Mandela and just get. 
Hammered. 

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I mean, I think this is the best
thing I could bring to the show.

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I'm pretty sure Sean was just 
completely wasted on some $2.00 

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chalk. 
Was kind of the vibe. 

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Yeah, it. 
Seemed pretty lit. 

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Yeah, if you guys missed that 
last night, check that out. 

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Like we said, we've been doing a
ton of main events. 

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Sean, last night, last week was 
Ron Stewart. 

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On Tuesday. 
Gretsch will be back. 

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We're doing the high stakes 
league with Leone. 

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That's really fun because it's a
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none of the tournament, you 
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They're always have fun drafted 
with Leone and then of course, 

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our finale a week from last 
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We'll be with with Crack Rock 
having some fun. 

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But yeah, appreciate all of you 
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season. 
We're about to be picking here 

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the back into the second round. 
I'm trying to see if there's 

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been anything surprising here. 
HN goes at 27 or sorry to the 

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seven hole. 
We got him to slide all the way 

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last night to 28 I believe it 
was. 

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But what do you guys kind of 
eyeing up? 

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Here at two O 7 is like a slide.
These days he's been going so 

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high. 
It's true, yeah. 

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Bucky goes as well. 
Gretsch, I'm in the applet so I 

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can work the queue. 
Are you in the applet as well? 

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I have the board up over here, 
but I guess I'm looking at the 

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board on on our screen as well. 
So I'll I'll let you put in the 

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pics. 
That's always been our. 

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I'll put in the pics so you kind
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rankings and stuff. 
I am, yeah. 

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Yeah, I'll know who's who's kind
of my top guy Kittle goes. 

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So that was part of our our 
discussion about one or two, 

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just a really brief one just 
between me and me and Pete. 

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Pat where you were, you were 
probably busy earlier, but. 

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I saw. 
No, I, I saw. 

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I caught up, but I, yeah, I 
didn't contribute. 

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Yeah. 
The idea for I don't love Kittle

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at this price, and so the idea 
was if we went a different 

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direction, we'd probably be 
looking at Kittle 2-3. 

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And part of the reason I like 
Bowers there is just I don't 

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know that I love coming back 
with Kittle. 

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If we went away from Bowers, for
me, it's probably you guys did 

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the port around the 4-5 turn. 
Maybe it's the 6-7 at this 

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point. 
If you can, try to get Tyler 

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Warren or Evan Ingram there. 
I've come around on Ingram. 

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It's tricky though. 
So we're on the clock. 

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A.J. 
Brown goes. 

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I would say best available are 
Jonathan Taylor and Lad 

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Mcconkey, right? 
There's another name those. 

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Those would be my two guys, 
yeah. 

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It's one of those two. 
I think it comes down to tactics

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and like what you guys want to 
think about multiple rounds 

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ahead. 
I'm very comfortable with both 

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picks. 
Are we are we comfortable with 

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the the three O 2 that we 
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Because that's, I would probably
say Taylor here, yeah. 

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I'm comfortable with the three O
2 that we discussed. 

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Yeah, let's see. 
Taylor though. 

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Yeah, I think Taylor's, I 
believe this is our first Taylor

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pick. 
This seems like a great price 

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for him. 
It does free us up from, you 

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know, we just know how much 
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receiver value there is over the
next 3 or 4 rounds. 

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Yeah, let's do Taylor here. 
I like. 

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That slightly smaller or 
slightly larger chance that the 

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guy at the turn doesn't take a 
lad either. 

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I noticed I was looking at some 
ADP lad's been going about three

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O 1 so you know who knows maybe 
maybe we're looking at loud on 

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the way back. 
Yeah, we'll see possible we 

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start Brock Bowers JT this is 
definitely like over the years 

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like the for us, just knowing 
how many wide receiver targets 

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we love in the mid rounds, like 
getting the elite tight end, 

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getting the bell Cal running 
back just like really sets us up

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for, you know, maximum 
flexibility to. 

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Yeah, you guys had already kind 
of learned that lesson when I 

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joined up with you guys in 2020.
But I, and I think the first 

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year I was like, I don't know if
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over the years, I love that. 
I mean, I think it's, I repeated

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it as much as you guys in recent
years. 

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I think it's a really sharp way 
to think about FFPC. 

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It was a good framework that you
guys got to. 

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So we are back on the clock and 
we we talked about the spot, we 

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talked about it with Sean last 
night. 

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This is like choose your own 
adventure for for what you you 

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want to do here. 
Every target you have is not 

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coming back. 
Stuff can feel like a reach, but

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what are we thinking here guys? 
Well, Ben, you threw out a name 

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that I want you to throw out 
here. 

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Yeah, so he's not even the top 
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that is Jackson Smith and Jig, 
who you guys took earlier. 

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My team with Sean that I 
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Bowers, Taylor, JSN team. 
So I don't want JSN on this team

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at all. 
The guy that I I want to get 

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more of is Tatura McMillan, who 
looks absolutely. 

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JC, I'm here who looks 
absolutely fantastic. 

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I think early in, in camp, I he,
I think he belongs here. 

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He's I said I have JSN next. 
I have McMillan right behind 

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him. 
I have McMillan ranked straight 

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up ahead of Harrison, Garrett 
Wilson, T Higgins, Devonta 

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Adams, Tyree kill all of those 
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And I think it's like fairly 
easily defensible. 

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I I didn't have it there until 
very recently, but in the second

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preseason game, it's not the 
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tipped me over that over this 
line. 

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But the fact that he went and 
burned Derek Stingley vertically

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and we would we should have had 
a 55 yard touchdown highlight 

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that would have probably put him
here. 

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But Andy Dalton's hand got hit 
on the throw and then he 

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immediately did the the 
surrender cobra. 

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He went like this because you 
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double move, Mcmillan's break 
outward, he got Stingley to 

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stumble and then he broke up 
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And I mean, that's the thing, 
like when I was on with you guys

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before the draft or right after 
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McMillan. 
That's the thing we talked a lot

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about Pat was like, that's the 
part of the profile that looks 

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like it's a weakness, but we 
don't necessarily know if it was

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a quarterback or the scheme. 
And he's so good in the 

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intermediate that he still was a
three-year early declare with 

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monster production metrics, all 
those things. 

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And none of it was Gimme stuff. 
None of it is the like Nikhil 

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Harry or Leviska Chanel 
concerns. 

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It's all I'm going downfield and
I'm winning on in Breakers and 

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outbreakers 10 yards downfield. 
But can I win vertically? 

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And the size suggests that he 
should be able to. 

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But the concern was he didn't 
create enough separation this 

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that he literally just went up 
against the highest paid or now 

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he's the second highest paid 
corner in the league. 

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Sauce Garner just got his 
extension, but second highest 

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paid corner in the league, 
arguably the best corner in the 

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league. 
A lot of people think that about

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Derek Stingley and just roasted 
him and apparently roasted him 

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in in split squads or whatever 
in in camp like 2 days earlier 

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on a, on a deep crosser. 
Like he's really good at 

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football. 
He's really, really good at 

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football. 
Last year I was into Deonte 

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Johnson because Dave Kanalis was
talking about how he builds his 

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offense around a number one wide
receiver and Deonte is that guy.

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It was part of why I was into 
him. 

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He had done it with Mike Evans 
the year prior. 

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He did that with Evans, yeah. 
Yes, that was his whole thing is

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if we had Mike Evans last year, 
Deonte is going to be that guy 

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for us this year. 
And obviously didn't work out 

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with Deonte. 
They ended up moving on from 

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him. 
He goes out and drafts this dude

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8th overall when there was talk 
that he might slide to 20 or 

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whatever. 
Goes out and drafts him 8th 

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overall. 
Has been playing them all pre 

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season. 
Like the number one Bryce 

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Young's throwing to him like 
that. 

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He's the Mike Evans in the 
offense. 

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Like what more do you need to 
know? 

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They're talking about trading 
Adam Phelan. 

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Like what more? 
This is where he belongs in 

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drafts. 
Yeah, I'm excited. 

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I believe Pat, this is our 
first. 

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I think it is our first share 
because we don't have any picks 

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on the back half of the board. 
So as as Ben was, Ben was like, 

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you know, I came back and I was 
catching up on the conversation 

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that you guys had and I, I saw 
that you'd thrown him out there 

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and I was like, hell yeah. 
Like we, we talked about him 

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last night. 
Sean floated him after we we 

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picked and I was like, I would 
have said yes to that, but we 

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you know, we don't have from for
me, it's like almost a little 

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selfishness of like we don't 
have any picks on the side of 

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the board where you get them. 
So let's reach for him. 

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But to see Ben wanting him here,
I was like, well, that's that's 

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a win win. 
We get we get a Tetaroa McMillan

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share and Ben gets to making a 
passing case that that this is 

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where he should be going anyway.
Yeah, yeah. 

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And it is crazy. 
Like we're, we're very 

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fortunate. 
I think we're going to end up 

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doing, you know, 789 total 
drafts, high stakes drafts. 

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But it this year, I think we are
like quite literally 8085% top 6

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picks. 
The the draft with crack rock 

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next week is from the 12 holes. 
So we'll have finally one back 

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there. 
But like No 8, No 9, No 10, No 

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11 this year. 
So it gets to that point where 

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you can you can play the ADP 
game, you can try to, you know, 

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eke out as much value. 
But at some point we want to go 

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get some of our fucking guys 
this year. 

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That's right. 
Have some of these guys, and Ted

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Arroyo is one of those guys. 
Right. 

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And a big part of this that I 
love as well is we talked about 

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flipping the build and all these
things in best ball. 

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The best ball fields are so 
massive and there's enough 

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people doing it because it's low
dollar value. 

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There's a smaller field, high 
dollar value. 

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There's guys that go and get 
their guys. 

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But I I doubt there's a lot of 
McMillan with Bowers and I doubt

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there's a lot of McMillan with 
Taylor. 

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There's probably some from the 
very early drafts when it was a 

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little bit more spread out and 
he was falling in the fourth. 

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He's falling, yeah. 
Yeah, But he's been at the 3-4 

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turn. 
Taylor's been at the 2-3. 

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Bowers has been in the top half 
of the first. 

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You're probably getting a fairly
unique combination of McMillan 

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is as good as I'm obviously 
talking about him being, and I 

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think you guys think he could 
be. 

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I think there will be more of 
this as we close. 

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I think we'll see McMillan go in
the upper part of the third. 

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He's just rising more and more 
and every analyst loves him and 

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everyone I talk to loves him. 
I don't understand why he 

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wouldn't because it is so flat 
there. 

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So they're they're we may close 
with more of these. 

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I don't think this is going to 
prove to be odd or, or, or a too

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high of a price to pay by any 
means. 

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This is where Malik neighbors 
was going last year. 

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And the big thing that 
solidified this for me is Sean 

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and I did our, our, you know, 
2026 first and second round 

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stuff. 
And I started going through it 

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and I mean, I ended up higher on
it than than he did. 

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But a lot of the times when I'm 
doing that, I'm thinking, God, 

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Sean's going to have some stuff 
ranked really, really high. 

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And I'm going to look stupid if 
I don't have some stuff. 

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Like I was trying to, you know, 
not not, I'm obviously doing the

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exercise for myself, but I am 
part of me thinking about where 

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Sean's going to have stuff when 
I'm doing it. 

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And I put McMillan one O 9 next 
year, right where neighbors is 

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going basically after his year 
one right where Brian Thomas is 

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going. 
Yeah, and he ended up kind of 

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saying that I was a little bit 
too exuberant because a lot of 

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those wide receivers are. 
So I had him ahead of CD Lamb at

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1:10. 
I mean, like that's but McMillan

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has less target competition this
year and I think that will be 

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part of the discussion. 
There you go. 

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There's only three of of this 
particular start so far. 

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So yeah, anyway, I think yeah. 
And there's probably a ton of 

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Brock JT So I mean that really 
is tat. 

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That's the one that's making 
that three but. 

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It's also funny, last night we 
were thinking that our Lamb HN 

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start would be unique and that 
at this draft Lamb slides to 

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seven, he drafts HN and then he 
he comes back around and takes 

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who we took in the third round 
with JSN. 

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So that's a dupe of of our start
last. 

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Night. 
Wow, I. 

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Didn't even notice that. 
I didn't either. 

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That's the same start you guys 
had. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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I keep forgetting you guys had 
Lamb yesterday. 

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That's right. 
Like I was thinking you guys had

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Bowers. 
What I keep hearing references 

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in the chat and from stuff with 
a a Silva draft. 

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Did you guys live stream 
something? 

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Me and we didn't live stream, we
pre recorded. 

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Me and Silva and Leone did a 
team together this year and pre 

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recorded it. 
There was just a couple nights 

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ago. 
Me and Silva famously have done 

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some teams together over the 
last like 3 years and then 

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famously like to to fight with 
each other a little bit. 

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But we got it recorded this time
and it wasn't that bad or 

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anything, but I was super hyper 
during during it. 

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I'm I'm kind of rattling off 
some thoughts right now. 

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I watched it back as some people
had some comments on and I was 

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like, man, I was pretty chatty. 
But it was. 

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It was a fun, fun, fun draft. 
People were giving me a lot of 

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crap because I wouldn't let 
Selva have Mike Evans in the 

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4th. 
But the way that we've kind of 

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always done it is we both kind 
of veto each other stuff and 

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then come to compromises and our
teams have won money every year.

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One of them finished top ten 
overall in the FFPC Maine. 

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We've done 1 Maine together for 
three years. 

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They've they've made the Sprint 
all three years and it's 

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basically off just vetoing each 
other like not it's pretty 

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great. 
It's like if if we could agree 

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on something then it then it 
tends to work. 

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I mean everyone was mad at me 
for not letting him have Evans. 

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We didn't get any of the players
I wanted in the 1st 5 rounds. 

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The player I would have taken by
myself in any of the 1st 5 

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rounds was not our eventual. 
Sword. 

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Wow, was bullying you. 
He wasn't even bullying me. 

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I don't think anyone really like
noticed that. 

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But it was just like like I 
would have taken McBride in the 

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first over Saquon, which is 
aggressive, but they both wanted

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Saquon, so we won't Saquon. 
Second round we had a Chan or 

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Nico. 
We went a Chan. 

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I would have probably went Nico.
That one is more like 5050 for 

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me. 
Third round, I wanted McMillan. 

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In the late 3rd. 
They wanted to try to push him, 

447
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,800
so we took Lamar Jackson. 
He didn't come back. 

448
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,400
Then I wanted Worthy when he 
wanted Evans and we landed on. 

449
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,560
We both vetoed and we landed on 
Marvin Harrison. 

450
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,400
Harvey fell. 
That's such a funny that's. 

451
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,200
Such a really like empty. 
The compromise there is 

452
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,080
hilarious. 
He really is the blend of the 

453
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:21,880
two. 
He's a really. 

454
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,200
Good guy. 
You guys were on the left axis 

455
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,240
to the right axis and then 
centered in the in the middle 

456
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:27,920
there. 
I'm pretty. 

457
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,360
Sure that he's he's, he's right 
wing slappy, isn't he? 

458
00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:34,120
So you got you went over to the 
slappy side, but over to the 

459
00:21:34,120 --> 00:21:36,040
right. 
Oh, that's so good. 

460
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,080
And then Harvey fell and I 
wanted him in the late 5th and 

461
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,720
we took Zay flowers for the 
stack or something. 

462
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,280
And it was so a couple of those 
were, you know, obviously you 

463
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,480
guys know how I like to draft. 
A couple of those were tough to 

464
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,760
pass up, like the Harvey value 
was tough to pass up. 

465
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,200
But we, we usually build good 
teams and it's, I think it's a 

466
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,920
good team, but it's, you know, 
it was, it was a fun stream. 

467
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,880
People really like the stream. 
Well, that that's kind of been 

468
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,800
our our teams over the years 
with crack rock too, right where

469
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,120
we approach it very differently.
We kind of do these compromises.

470
00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:07,840
He pulls us slightly to his 
side, we pull him a little bit 

471
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,240
to our side and generally build 
some pretty fun, unique teams 

472
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,600
that do well. 
Yeah, that's what happens. 

473
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,920
And I I mean, you got to be open
to that kind of stuff. 

474
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:21,360
I think like it's fun to that's 
what I love about Co managing is

475
00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:25,080
like you get a lot of you get a 
lot of your own guys, but you 

476
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,320
also mix in a lot of guys that 
you maybe weren't going to be on

477
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,640
and it spreads things out. 
I don't, you know. 

478
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,280
You also sometimes take Bobby 
trees when you should take. 

479
00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:36,520
Right, that's the the issue at. 
The the Lee winner. 

480
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,040
Right, yes, I don't love doing 
all the. 

481
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,760
All the comments. 
Sometimes you get vetoed by one 

482
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,760
man when the three of you want 
another guy. 

483
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,000
Yeah, I. 
Am I, Am I like concentrating 

484
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:53,360
more of my drafts with mostly 
with Sean and getting enough 

485
00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:55,200
exposure to the guys that I 
really want to get enough 

486
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,640
exposure to because that's 
important too? 

487
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,440
Yeah, so we do start here. 
Brock Bowers, Jonathan Taylor, 

488
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,320
Ted Arroyo McMillan. 
Someone accused me of just 

489
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,200
wanting T Mac to see if I could 
practice my swear jar rules, 

490
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,680
which is, of course, not saying 
the nickname he doesn't like. 

491
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,000
So, but I have my work cut out 
for me tonight saying his full 

492
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,360
name. 
Pretty slow draft tonight. 

493
00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:19,640
Everybody's using the the clock 
to its full extent. 

494
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,120
Xavier Worthy. 
I'll, I'll read since since we 

495
00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:29,000
put Ted Arroya, Higgins Jacobs, 
Kyron Garrett Wilson, JSN, 

496
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,440
Kenneth Walker, Trevion 
Henderson. 

497
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,880
That was another guy we had 
considered maybe pulling up 

498
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,920
there if we went say, wide 
receiver in the 2nd instead. 

499
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,960
Josh Allen, Tyree Kill, Lamar, 
Xavier Worthy, James Cook, 

500
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,160
Marvin Harrison, The ultimate 
compromise, Breece Hall and 

501
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:49,440
Jaden Daniels here. 
Yeah, it's hard to know even 

502
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,040
here what the the decision will 
be at 411. 

503
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,400
You're still kind of, I mean, I 
think there's several different 

504
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,320
ways that you'd consider going 
depending on what happens in 

505
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,680
these next 5 picks and so. 
How, how out are you on those 

506
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,400
veteran receivers? 
Cuz I I tend to, you know. 

507
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,480
Don't tell Sylva, but yeah, 
don't tell Sylva. 

508
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,840
But after the fact, I felt like 
I should have just gave him Mike

509
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,440
Evans probably. 
Yeah, like I was thinking like, 

510
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,240
if Mike Evans were to fall, I'd 
be pretty into it. 

511
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,760
But you know, he's not the the 
most exciting pick of all. 

512
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,120
Time I mean the issue with him 
is that he has missed games 

513
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,800
every season other than one 
since like 2021. 

514
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,080
You do have him at you know, 32.
You have this ascending player 

515
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,880
in Abuka, right? 
You have Godwin coming back mid 

516
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,920
season. 
You have Liam Cohen getting both

517
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,720
Godwin and Evans to career high 
yards per out run last year. 

518
00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:46,520
But then leaving like I I'm I'm 
really into I saw when Sean was 

519
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,200
on with you, Pete, that was a 
really fun video as well that 

520
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,760
you you just released this week 
or did live. 

521
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:57,720
No, you released the video this 
week and his whatever his 

522
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,640
favorite play or best value was 
Brian Thomas that he mentioned, 

523
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,840
among a lot of other things 
about strategy and great things 

524
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,840
Video very much worth checking 
out. 

525
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,480
But I love that I love Brian 
Thomas and I love Travis Hunter,

526
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,240
who is a potential discussion 
point in this range for us as 

527
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,120
well. 
But like Liam Cohen was able to 

528
00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:16,520
get the ball to his guys in a in
a meaningful way last year. 

529
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,240
But I think that could be a 
problem for Evan. 

530
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,240
So there's just a lot of things 
that are working against Evans 

531
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,040
having a ceiling. 
So Hertz would have been a 

532
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,280
really fun pick and he ends up 
going one pick ahead of us. 

533
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,280
Yes, we see Adams is kind of the
crazy slime here. 

534
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,440
Where are you at on Adam's Ben? 
Because I, I would be open to it

535
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,800
as a, as a value pick and you 
know, kind of pairs with the 

536
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,480
rookie pretty well. 
So when we were in Miami 

537
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,520
together, I was, I got to do 
with some of my first best ball 

538
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,800
drafts. 
The answer to not wanting T 

539
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,240
Higgins or Garrett Wilson or any
of these guys instead of taking 

540
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,320
McMillan at the beginning of the
third was I was taking Adams and

541
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,760
every one of the first best ball
drafts I was doing this year. 

542
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,120
And then I've moved him way 
down, but he's still the top 

543
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,120
receiver in my rankings. 
Stafford's back at practice. 

544
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,800
I can't give you a reason why we
wouldn't take Devonte Adams here

545
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,800
at all. 
I think he's the highest in my 

546
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,600
rankings now too. 
You know the remaining guy. 

547
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,120
So that would be my vote. 
Yeah, no, it's it's my vote as 

548
00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:11,320
well. 
If Pickens was here, we could 

549
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,640
have had a a fun. 
Yeah, Pickens would have been 

550
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,600
another one I liked. 
There's two guys that really 

551
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,280
like. 
I mean, the only argument would 

552
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,320
be to try to get both of the 
other two guys. 

553
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,760
But man, I mean, Adam's just 
from the like the the fall and 

554
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,320
the ADP value perspective. 
Stafford's just going to look 

555
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,880
healthier. 
He's not one that's going to 

556
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,880
keep falling, right? 
I don't know, maybe Stafford's 

557
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,080
going to be hurt all year. 
There is this element of like 

558
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,440
you have Adam's age Cliff and 
you have Stafford age Cliff 

559
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,160
risks, which isn't great you. 
Know right? 

560
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,720
It is. 
It is honestly bizarre because 

561
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,560
like to your point, Ben, there 
was this movement where I 

562
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,640
thought Adam's was gonna hit the
like 2-3 turn, like as 

563
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,200
enthusiasm started building, 
which is what happened last year

564
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,960
kind of with Cooper Cup in like 
that similar spot where the 

565
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,280
enthusiasm built. 
Now all the, you know, whatever,

566
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,480
we can talk about it after this 
pick. 

567
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,960
So we're back up. 
Sutton and Burrow go after us. 

568
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,480
Neither of those were going to 
be targets. 

569
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,240
Who were? 
Who was the other name You were.

570
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,200
In yeah, so I I really like 
Hunter, but the two the receiver

571
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,120
would have been Jameson 
Williams, who I know you guys 

572
00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:15,560
talked about last night and the 
running back was is RJ Harvey, 

573
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,680
who you did take last night. 
I think you could have taken 

574
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,440
both of them and then let Adams 
go, but it just feels like 

575
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,520
getting a little cute when we 
already pulled up McMillan. 

576
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,920
So I like taking Adams. 
I structurally, I guess I kind 

577
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,560
of like Harvey more because 6-7 
feels like the wide receiver 

578
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,520
range. 
But you guys had the same kind 

579
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,760
of thing and last and it was 
like hard to pass on Jameson. 

580
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,480
What do you think? 
I'd be Harvey I. 

581
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,480
Like. 
Both yeah, I it Gretsch I will 

582
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,720
say do not do not worry about do
biggity pigs from last night it 

583
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:45,920
is. 
You want to. 

584
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,880
Draft the best, yeah? 
No, I no, I I hear you, but 

585
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,840
Williams is a guy that I haven't
gotten yet and I've gotten 

586
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,120
plenty of Harvey, but let's take
Harvey. 

587
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,280
I I agree, I think and and Pat I
I'm genuinely torn on this 

588
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,200
because I really like the Harvey
thesis and pick here. 

589
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,680
So like, let's just take Harvey.
I also just took up a shot again

590
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,240
a minute a minute ago. 
So I I this is my second Bowers 

591
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,000
Taylor Harvey build but of the 
day, But I have different 

592
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,880
receivers and different. 
It's a it's going to end up 

593
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,720
being a whole different team and
I'm glad that I have two of 

594
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:14,720
those because those are great 
players. 

595
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,880
So I streamed this morning with 
Jacob Sanderson and he he shared

596
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:22,640
a a conspiracy theory with me 
that's anti Harvey, which is 

597
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,360
that they like Dobbins so much 
that they functionally rested 

598
00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:29,760
him during. 
That they hit his helmet and 

599
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,200
they. 
They only put him out for pass 

600
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,440
protection where he's trusted, 
but they didn't want to bother 

601
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,760
having him run because that 
that's how much they like him 

602
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,920
so. 
So I suppose that could be. 

603
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,040
No, I and I actually, honestly, 
I think there's probably truth 

604
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,040
to that. 
I think there. 

605
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,280
The way. 
I wrote it up in the pre season 

606
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,600
signals write ups was that 
Dobbins also got lost for the 

607
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,360
for the season a couple years 
ago in a pre in pre season 

608
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,200
action. 
And it wouldn't be surprising if

609
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,800
he's the veteran behind the 
scenes. 

610
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,760
He's like talking with Peyton 
and he's like, hey, man, I don't

611
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,240
and I don't want to lose. 
I've had enough injuries in my 

612
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,360
career. 
I don't want to lose my whole 

613
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,080
season in games that don't 
matter kind of a thing. 

614
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,280
And they only did play them for,
you know, protection for Nicks 

615
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,640
Harvey. 
The fact that Harvey played a 

616
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,080
lot in both games doesn't 
surprise me because Peyton plays

617
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,480
as young guys in the preseason. 
It's not like this is my 

618
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,000
argument would be that we should
not have read into the this is 

619
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,160
one of the ones like Pete was 
saying. 

620
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,080
Some of them we shouldn't read 
into. 

621
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,840
This is one of the ones we 
should not have read into it 

622
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,600
all. 
Sean Payton does weird stuff in 

623
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,400
preseason. 
Last year. 

624
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,680
You remember when he played 
Marvin Mims the first snap and 

625
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,600
then sat him so he was a 
starter, then sat him the rest 

626
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,840
of the first half and then 
played him in the in like the 

627
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,520
third and fourth quarters. 
And then the next week he played

628
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,560
him with the first team. 
And it was like everyone was 

629
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,880
like, what does this mean for 
Marvin Mims? 

630
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,280
And ultimately, it meant who the
hell knows what. 

631
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,320
It meant or they sat. 
They sat Vele because he's a 

632
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,520
starter. 
Oh no, it's because they're 

633
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,240
actually trying to trade him. 
Right. 

634
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,440
There's all these weird elements
of Peyton, but the fact that a 

635
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,720
rookie like RJ Harvey would play
some in the preseason and get 

636
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,120
some carries, some live game 
action is not weird. 

637
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,160
It's like, no, no, I thought 
that was good. 

638
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,240
I thought that was really 
bullish for him that he, that he

639
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,560
started the game. 
I think Jacob's saying maybe 

640
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,440
it's not as bullish. 
We don't want to over read into 

641
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,440
it. 
But I still think like Harvey 

642
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,680
has had a really strong camp and
whether or not he's like the 

643
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,160
starter or not the starter, he's
going to have a, he's going to 

644
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,640
have an important role out of 
the gate. 

645
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,600
I would not surprise me at all 
if he outtouched trivia on 

646
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,760
Henderson in week 1. 
Like he's going to have a really

647
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,200
strong role. 
And I both think they're both 

648
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,560
really talented. 
So I I just continue to think 

649
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,240
Harvey's underpriced with 
Henderson rocketing up, which I 

650
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,520
get because Henderson looks 
awesome. 

651
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,640
But Harvey I think is really 
good too. 

652
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,640
And you know, you, you still get
him in this fifth round price 

653
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,320
like. 
For sure. 

654
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,800
And so The thing is I'm going to
write the last couple years I've

655
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,560
done it my like, you know, my 
high value touched at the 

656
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,280
receptions and and Green Zone 
touches, touches inside the 10 

657
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,640
yard line. 
The last a couple years ago, 

658
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,240
somebody asked me to try to do 
like predict or project the team

659
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,720
high value touches because I add
those in the in season stealing 

660
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,320
signals every week. 
You know, I talk about like 

661
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,440
which backfields have the most 
team high value touches. 

662
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,720
And so I I built like a little 
model and from my actual 

663
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,920
projections to turn like running
back touchdowns into like 

664
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,160
expected Green Zone touches and 
then added in the receptions. 

665
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,800
And then I just said this is 
what my projections say about 

666
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,720
what I'm projecting for team 
high value touches. 

667
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,520
I did this two years ago and 
last year and they both were 

668
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,960
like really fucking accurate 
actually. 

669
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,560
Like they were pretty good. 
Like we we do have a good idea 

670
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,480
what backfields are going to 
have strong high value touch 

671
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,080
like elements to them. 
And I haven't done it yet this 

672
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:39,880
year. 
I'm going to do it again. 

673
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,760
I'm going to do it next week. 
Pretty confident the Broncos are

674
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,800
going to be like top three 
because I was projecting them to

675
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,560
catch a lot of balls. 
Everything that we were talking 

676
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,160
about last year when it was like
get every piece of the Denver 

677
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,440
backfield. 
They still finished top five in 

678
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,400
running back targets even though
Marvin Mims was a wide receiver 

679
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,400
getting targets out of the 
backfield towards the end of the

680
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,560
year, right. 
Jevonte Williams had 70 targets 

681
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,840
last year. 
Jevonte Williams That's crazy 

682
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,320
man. 
At 70 targets, it's insane. 

683
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,520
Money backs don't get 70 targets
anymore. 

684
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,720
Like this conversation, RJ 
Harvey or JK Dobbins For me it's

685
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,360
like it's the why not both me 
like I'm they're gonna probably 

686
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,120
split is my take. 
I don't necessarily know that 

687
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,240
I'm as high as you in terms of 
Harvey like consolidating. 

688
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,040
It sounds like you're maybe a 
little higher than I'm thinking,

689
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,200
but I don't. 
Think I think I might be a 

690
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,760
little lower on Henderson week 
one too. 

691
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,840
I I think people, OK, people 
need to just like settle in for 

692
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,480
for a little bit of a, a rough 
go as far as of like early down 

693
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,920
roll goes for the beginning of 
the season. 

694
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,600
That's it's like my Trayvon 
Henderson PSAI think he takes 

695
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,160
that backfield and crushes down 
the stretch. 

696
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,960
But it's going to take a minute.
That makes sense, The like as a 

697
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,320
take. 
I don't know if I necessarily 

698
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,400
agree with it, but. 
It makes sense. 

699
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,520
I think enters, it's going to 
get kind of a lot of work right 

700
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,120
away. 
But similar to what you were 

701
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,320
saying for Harvey, I do agree on
on the Harvey side of it, which 

702
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,360
is like, if everything I just 
said, people might say, well, 

703
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,640
why not just take Dobbins? 
Well, Harvey's the one that 

704
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,200
they're going to proactively get
the ball to in space that like 

705
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,200
the first and second down 
targets that people have talked 

706
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,920
about like they're going to 
throw to him those swing passes 

707
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,880
where it's like getting the ball
load running back while he's 

708
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,160
moving on the run, catching an 
into space. 

709
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,840
They that's what Peyton's always
done. 

710
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,720
It's not a check down where the 
guy standing there as an outlet 

711
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,520
and then has to like create, 
right. 

712
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,040
It's like I'm throwing the ball 
to him on the run to get him. 

713
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,680
That's what they did with Marvin
Mims last year, like throwing on

714
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,280
the ball on the run, getting him
out, moving wide as like a first

715
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,760
read. 
And Harvey's going to get those.

716
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,000
Those touches are going to be 
Harvey. 

717
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,040
So he's going to have plenty of 
receptions even though he can't 

718
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,480
pass block and he's going to 
lead in rushes. 

719
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,320
I think, I mean, that's the 
tough thing is like, does 

720
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,120
Dobbins get the goal line work 
early? 

721
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,520
But he's usually split the goal 
line stuff, Peyton. 

722
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,760
Like last year when I wanted 
Javonte Williams to be a thing 

723
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,040
when he wouldn't score on 1st 
down, they'd bring in Julia 

724
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,600
McLaughlin on 2nd down early in 
the year and I would be pissed. 

725
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,760
I'd be like, just give him every
goal line carry so I can get a 

726
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,080
touchdown for the love of God, 
which probably wouldn't have 

727
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,720
ever scored because it was 
Javonte Williams. 

728
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:57,840
But. 
That's what they're. 

729
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,920
Going that's what they're going 
to do this year is they're going

730
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,360
to have like Harvey on 1st down,
Dobbins on 2nd, Harvey on 3rd, 

731
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,720
Dobbins on 4th. 
That's what they used to do with

732
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,000
Camara and Ingram, you know, and
one of them eventually punches 

733
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,239
it in. 
They're both double digit T DS. 

734
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,600
I mean, yeah, Camara had 
touchdown equity like right 

735
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,440
away. 
So yeah, the committee works in 

736
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,280
his favor, but I think it works 
in Dobbins. 

737
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,199
His favor. 
That was my, I don't know, it 

738
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:22,280
wasn't, it's not even really a 
bold take anymore because both 

739
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,679
of them have gone up in ADP. 
But I did the Fantasy point show

740
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:32,040
in July and my thing was like a 
draft of Denver running back in 

741
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,040
every draft. 
Get these guys like sixth round 

742
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,199
cuz that was when Hardy was 
falling on the Dobbins signing 

743
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,360
and Dobbins you could still get 
in the one 20s. 

744
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:47,000
The way this it probably 
functions in reality, right, is 

745
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,560
like you slightly overpay for RJ
Harvey here relative to his week

746
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,840
one through 7 or eight 
production and then you get a 

747
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,680
fucking massive windfall value 
for his week 9 through 17 

748
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,840
production like that. 
That's the game you're playing 

749
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,520
with these guys. 
Same with the Trevi on 

750
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,960
Henderson. 
You're just paying a slightly 

751
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,000
bigger tax on that lack of pre 
season usage. 

752
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,720
But the the thesis does not 
change for when we care about 

753
00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:11,920
it. 
The point is, can you get enough

754
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,600
wins? 
So you still got to get there 

755
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,000
bro kind of thing. 
Yeah, but I do think Harvey's 

756
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,360
going to get, I guess I the part
I do agree with Pat on is I bet 

757
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,480
Harvey has a higher scoring 
floor. 

758
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,880
I do think those the high value 
touch stuff in the Broncos 

759
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,400
backfield is going to be because
Peyton didn't have running backs

760
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,080
to use last year. 
That's why you're not talking 

761
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,680
about it so much. 
We were talking about all last 

762
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,240
season that he's always used his
backs, but even despite not 

763
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:39,960
having any running backs to use,
he didn't like any of them. 

764
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,760
That's why he was still playing 
Jovante so much. 

765
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,680
He's still they still were top 
five in running back targets and

766
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,200
that was Bo Nix's thing in 
college. 

767
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,200
Remember his A dots too low. 
All he did was throw to his 

768
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,040
backfield in college, short 
completions, all this stuff. 

769
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,040
Then they went out and acquired 
2 good running backs. 

770
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,920
JK Dobbins had 20 plus catches 
all three years at Ohio State. 

771
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,920
He's never been in an offense 
that actually throws to the 

772
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,480
backs. 
He's always been in Greg Roman 

773
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,800
offenses like they're he's going
to catch balls, Harvey's going 

774
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,080
to catch balls. 
Bonex throws to his backs, Sean 

775
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,360
Payton throws to his backs. 
He's finally got backs that he 

776
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,480
actually likes here in Denver. 
They have one of the best 

777
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,440
offenses offensive lines in the 
league. 

778
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:17,440
Like this is this is a great 
spot, All the high value touch 

779
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,640
stuff you're saying, but like, 
this is an offensive going to be

780
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,200
really effective. 
You have Bonex going to be 

781
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,200
taking a step forward. 
They're scored a ton of points. 

782
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,760
Yeah. 
And yeah, I mean, it's not like 

783
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,680
they have a dominant wide 
receiver core. 

784
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,520
It makes a lot of sense for them
to use the backs out of the 

785
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,640
backfield and kind of it'll, you
know, probably be a bit spread 

786
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,080
out, but that's, that's good for
running backs 'cause they don't 

787
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,120
ever running backs don't have 
like 28% target shares. 

788
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,880
You know what I mean? 
If you're spreading the ball 

789
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,680
around, that's that's good. 
That's the other part of this 

790
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,640
that that's getting masked. 
Sorry. 

791
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,120
One last note is that they threw
because their running backs 

792
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,520
suck. 
Last year we were saying they 

793
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,640
score a bunch of points. 
They only had 12 rushing TDs as 

794
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,040
a team. 
They threw 30. 

795
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,120
When I was going to the 
projections and looking at Sean 

796
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,760
Payton's other teams, that's 
that's uncommon. 

797
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,240
His running backs rush for 
touchdowns. 

798
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,760
They're going to rush for TDs 
this year. 

799
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,920
The the that's where. 
That's where people are missing 

800
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,600
the running back value as well 
on that side. 

801
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,680
In retrospect, it's kind of 
bearish that he took Javonte 

802
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:11,560
Williams aside, showed him film 
of what he used to look like, 

803
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:17,600
and said could you look like 
this again, an actual thing he 

804
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,320
did. 
Not good, not good. 

805
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,520
Go ahead. 
Here, Yeah, Here's the lay of 

806
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,440
the land since we're going to be
picking in a couple picks here. 

807
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,040
So Brock Bowers, Jonathan 
Taylor, Ted Arora, McMillan, 

808
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,080
Devante Adams, R Slider grab, RJ
Harvey about to pick here at the

809
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,960
end of the sixth. 
We've seen a ton of wide 

810
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,200
receivers and also some tight 
ends come off the board here. 

811
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,000
Jamo's gone, Ricky's gone. 
Ridley, DJ Moore, Ibuka Flowers,

812
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,160
Mclaurin Hunter, Devante Smith 
slides all the way to the mid 6.

813
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,040
Jerry Judy goes and then the 
tight ends that went Hawkinson, 

814
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:52,480
Laporta, Kelsey and Warren there
at six two I. 

815
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,880
Assume this is going to be a a 
wide. 

816
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,480
Receiver pick for us unless 
there's a a running back jumping

817
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:03,560
out to you guys. 
Yeah, this would be receiver for

818
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,000
me. 
Yeah. 

819
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:10,240
Is Terry Mclaurin not gone? 
He did go, he went, but he he 

820
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:12,320
went, he hung around for a 
while. 

821
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,520
He did didn't. 
He was like is. 

822
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:21,600
He yes, we're. 
On deck here by ADP, we're 

823
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,280
getting you know Rashi Rice has 
been sliding. 

824
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:26,800
He just went. 
He just. 

825
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,360
Went oh, he just went, sorry I 
missed that. 

826
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,160
There's one. 
There's one guy, yeah. 

827
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,920
There's one dude that we. 
Would there's two guys for me 

828
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,960
that I'm happy with? 
There's one guy, would be really

829
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,400
fun. 
Yeah. 

830
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,120
So we'll see here 20 seconds I 
think. 

831
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,320
I'm the same I. 
Think we're thinking the same. 

832
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,520
I, I, I would be surprising if 
we weren't. 

833
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,800
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

834
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,840
After we get. 
Through this I want to talk 

835
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,200
about Ricky Pearsall at five O 5
because that. 

836
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,560
Let's talk about that after this
too. 

837
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,720
Yeah, I want to talk about that.
I'd like to discuss. 

838
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,800
Is it is Waddle if he's? 
Yeah. 

839
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,440
Waddle goes. 
I knew that was so we kind of 

840
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,240
have the decisions we did last 
night, right? 

841
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:10,560
You got you got Alave, you got 
Golden, you got Debo, you got 

842
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:16,280
Jawan, Jennings, Addison. 
OK, that wasn't I was thinking 

843
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,040
the other guy you were talking 
about was a lava because you 

844
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,680
sounded less excited about the 
other guy. 

845
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,040
But. 
Well, I wanted waddle. 

846
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,240
Yeah. 
Yeah, yeah. 

847
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,320
I think in my rankings it's 
Addison, Alave, then Golden and 

848
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,280
I'm not like I'm not out on 
Golden by any means. 

849
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,400
I I but probably would give the 
same line Sean did last night, 

850
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,080
which is like, I kind of like 
just playing the veteran. 

851
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,400
You know, you can get Jade and 
Reed at the next turn, but we 

852
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:43,000
could take them both, yeah. 
I also, I also wouldn't I would 

853
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,720
really like to get an Addison 
too, so I don't mind like taking

854
00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:48,200
Addison and then seeing like. 
He's probably 7 O2. 

855
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,360
OK, we could. 
Get him seven O 2 I think. 

856
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,240
What I'm saying, yeah. 
Yeah, let the room dictate it a 

857
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:55,640
little bit because we're low on 
clock. 

858
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,360
Or do you? 
Let's do that. 

859
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,720
Let's let's go, Addison. 
OK, All right. 

860
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,400
Yeah, let's go Addison. 
I'm the guest now. 

861
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,240
So I get AI get a do that. 
Yeah, it's nice. 

862
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:06,320
Isn't it? 
It's. 

863
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,360
Very nice to be in this scene 
that's early for Addison, but I 

864
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,800
mean, I love Jordan Addison. 
He I mean he might have came all

865
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,920
the way back around to us in the
8th, but whatever. 

866
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:16,920
What are you going to do? 
I? 

867
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,360
Don't know I mean. 
There's probably not. 

868
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,600
So much yellow coming off the 
board in these rounds. 

869
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,320
Yes, this has been a a receiver 
heavy draft. 

870
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:29,720
I I saw you guys talk about 
Addison quite a bit last night, 

871
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:32,240
so I'll save the whole spiel. 
But Pat, what I was going to say

872
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:34,680
is with this team with only two 
receivers and if we were 

873
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,960
thinking about Addison coming 
back that I kind of like we 

874
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,120
don't have enough time for this 
kind of like a lot of more with 

875
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,560
Addison. 
If we were going to do Addison 

876
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:42,720
at seven O 2. 
That's why I. 

877
00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:43,200
Kind of. 
I see. 

878
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,600
I see. 1st and talk about it, 
but I'm comfortable taking 

879
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,960
Golden as well like I, I, I am I
don't have a lot of exposure to 

880
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,560
golden. 
We're going to say I. 

881
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,240
Just think Golden, he's had a 
really strong camp. 

882
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,040
He's a three-year guy. 
It's like some of you know, I 

883
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,360
think he's a very kind of boom 
bust prospect. 

884
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,600
The floor is low but the ceiling
is high. 

885
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,840
Like we've seen some of these 
incomplete 3 year guys actually 

886
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,520
break out very quickly. 
Be awesome. 

887
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,360
Right. 
The film guys had it right. 

888
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,120
The the draft capital told us 
the story and he's been 

889
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,760
installed as their number one. 
Seems like he's running with 

890
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,280
that opportunity. 
He's making plays every day. 

891
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,880
You don't have to pay the tax 
that you have to pay on a buka. 

892
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,960
I think it's a big upside swing.
And I don't know, I don't think 

893
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,120
we've taken yet or have we taken
once, Pete? 

894
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,720
We did golden. 
We did didn't we do golden last 

895
00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:36,960
night? 
Which or no, we didn't. 

896
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,440
We did a lava and yeah, but I'm 
I'm good with either a lava or 

897
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,520
golden here. 
So feel free, Greg. 

898
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,920
I'm I'm I'm completely torn. 
I think I I have more lava and 

899
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,640
I've been moving a lava back 
because that offense sucks. 

900
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,880
Let's take golden. 
I I think golden yeah, more fun.

901
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,400
Let's take golden Lava's The 
offense looks gross. 

902
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,440
Shaheed actually looked pretty 
good in the preseason part of my

903
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,560
lava take earlier. 
Like I I liked that you guys 

904
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,600
took him last night and I've 
been talking about to Sean 

905
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,440
enough that Sean's been saying 
he's taking him a little, but he

906
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,520
you saying on the pot he's like,
I'm I'm getting your guy a lava.

907
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,680
I'm like, I don't know if I like
the economy, my guy in the 

908
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:17,400
league. 
Like. 

909
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,160
But I'm. 
Sean looks kind of pained last 

910
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,720
night when we took a lava. 
I think maybe a little bit. 

911
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,120
I talked to him today because we
did the draft and he made it. 

912
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,160
I asked him how the draft went. 
We talked a little and he did 

913
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,120
make a comment. 
He was like, I wish you know, it

914
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,880
would have worked out where that
you got. 

915
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,640
You said said something like 
that you. 

916
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:39,960
Guys got a lot, you got a lot. 
Tonight, yeah, it was very 

917
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,360
funny. 
I was like, Oh yeah. 

918
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,200
We took Judy and then Alave came
back around so. 

919
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,440
He and he didn't go to take 
Addison, who's more his guy than

920
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:54,320
me and I and I get to take 
Addison, which is very fun, but 

921
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,480
I've been super into alave. 
But the part I'm sorry, I'm I'm 

922
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,280
figured if I were to make this 
point, but part of it is that 

923
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,160
Shaheed's coming back from a you
know, not a not an ACL, but a 

924
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,800
significant knee injury. 
And I thought, you know, target 

925
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,440
competition, be super weak 
Shaheed like be like closer to 

926
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,160
on par with the lava then I want
him to be a lava has got a lot 

927
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,680
better long term track record. 
But if she if she gets close to 

928
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:21,080
that and they trade for a Pele. 
Yeah, the meniscus, I think it 

929
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,720
was a meniscus. 
So that's not like as serious, I

930
00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:25,440
guess, depending on the 
severity. 

931
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,600
But yeah, it's not like he tore 
A ligament and he's it's down to

932
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,240
like he's been pretty healthy at
camp. 

933
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,000
The veil things, I almost think 
view the veil thing is bullish, 

934
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,160
though, where it's like, OK, if 
you trade for veil, you're going

935
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,360
to pass the ball. 
I guess you're thinking you're 

936
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,880
good enough to trade fourth 
round pick, which are definitely

937
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:43,960
not. 
But I kind of like that you 

938
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,680
think that you are, you know, 
like they're they're not like 

939
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,080
full on. 
I don't know. 

940
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,040
There's some belief in the room,
which I suppose is good. 

941
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,800
I don't know what's creating the
belief because their quarterback

942
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:02,400
situation is somehow worse than 
the Browns, but you know, I'm 

943
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,720
happy that they think they can 
throw it. 

944
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,520
Gretsch. 
What were you gonna we also you 

945
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,760
said you wanted to talk about 
the the pure Sol selection there

946
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,080
at 55. 
What was your thoughts on that? 

947
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,280
Ride is is that insane or am I? 
Am I crazy? 

948
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,120
I'm not in on it, yeah. 
That's what I was just gonna 

949
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,280
say. 
That is where he's going like 

950
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,480
he's he's going in the fifth 
round and in underdog drafts 

951
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,000
right now. 
I mean, obviously you get the 

952
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,240
tight end push up here. 
So even adjusted that's even 

953
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:31,600
higher than that, but that's 
that's where the market is. 

954
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,560
So I feel like at this point 
with him. 

955
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:40,760
So when Maine's is the middle of
the six, sorry, Leonie and Silva

956
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,960
wanted to talk about about the 
5-6 turn and I was like, that's 

957
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,400
just too early for the student. 
So to see him go in this at five

958
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:52,680
O 5 was pretty shocking to me. 
But the main thing is like the 

959
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,080
way that Leon is talking about 
is like the off seasons broke 

960
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,120
right for him. 
I get that. 

961
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,960
But that's a week 1 argument, 
right? 

962
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,560
Like Juan Jennings contract and 
calf stuff is concerning. 

963
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,360
He was way better last year on a
per out basis. 

964
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,880
Like I understand that Pierce 
all had a good end of the season

965
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,080
and I understand he's a year two
guy and he's looked good. 

966
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,360
But all the stuff from camp is 
consistently like this dude 

967
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,800
doesn't get out of his brakes, 
He's not where he needs to be on

968
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,480
time. 
We got to just keep working with

969
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,520
him to make sure that Purdy 
knows that like he's going to be

970
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,600
where he needs to be on time. 
He's got to keep getting better 

971
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,440
at that. 
Like maybe This is why he's 

972
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:27,120
never run strong targets numbers
even in college or last year 

973
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,680
unless they're like featuring 
him. 

974
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,160
His first couple games back from
the gunshot, he got a lot of 

975
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,920
targets. 
Then he went like 4 games with 

976
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,640
nothing while running a lot of 
routes. 

977
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,880
And then he closed the season 
when their season was over, when

978
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,960
they got eliminated with two 
really strong games, when they 

979
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,000
were sort of featuring him and 
building him up again. 

980
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,520
They've been featuring them all 
camp. 

981
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,320
I think they'll feature him at 
times this year. 

982
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,440
Brandon Iuke was a second round 
pick last year. 

983
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,680
Like when they were talking 
about trading him, everyone in 

984
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,960
the league was like, this dude's
one of the top ten wide 

985
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,920
receivers in the entire NFL. 
And then the 49ers paid him. 

986
00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:59,560
When he comes back, like down 
the stretch, that guy's going to

987
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,880
land on top of you. 
And you had a 14% targets per 

988
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,840
out as a rookie and your 
breakout's going to be so good 

989
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,000
that that's not going to matter.
Christian McCaffrey ran 91 

990
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,680
routes last year. 
He's going to be a part of your 

991
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,480
passing game. 
He runs legitimate routes and 

992
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,000
gets open. 
George Kittle still there. 

993
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,680
Juwan Jennings had a better 
season last year, meaningfully 

994
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,080
almost double the targets per 
out. 

995
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,800
Where's the Ricky Pierce all 
like legit ceiling come from? 

996
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,440
Like that was the other thing I 
was when I was talking about 

997
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:25,720
Evans. 
He's. 

998
00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:27,440
Good. 
But where's the ceiling? 

999
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,880
Because if I'm taking him in 
round 4 around 3 or whatever, I 

1000
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,960
want to know that he can be like
a legit ceiling guy and not just

1001
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,480
like, oh, he scores a lot of 
touchdowns. 

1002
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,440
I just I don't know, man, some 
of these picks, it's like this 

1003
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,600
is not going to win the main 
event or win you your league 

1004
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,880
like this is and and pure salt 
here. 

1005
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,960
I feel like you're going to, 
you're hoping for a really good 

1006
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,240
first month. 
Well, I'll make the pro pure 

1007
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:53,280
salt case because I'm always 
making the anti pure salt case 

1008
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,520
because I think he's undervalued
and I have a mega fit Samsung 

1009
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,160
and best ball. 
So overvalued, right? 

1010
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:58,560
Yeah. 
Yeah, Sorry. 

1011
00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:59,720
I think he's overvalued. 
Yeah. 

1012
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:06,240
But if you're a first round pick
and then they get rid of Debo, 

1013
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,240
Iuke tears up his knee and 
Jennings is dealing with calf 

1014
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:14,520
contract stuff, then you get a 
whole training camp to get 

1015
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,120
installed as the number one 
option. 

1016
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:19,240
Looking at the first read stuff 
last year, Juan Jennings was at 

1017
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,760
a 20% personal target rate, 
which is really good. 

1018
00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:26,440
But he's Juan Jennings. 
Like does that mean it's 

1019
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,440
probably that they were just he 
was the guy they trusted but he 

1020
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,120
to get out of his brakes? 
To get out of his brakes, Yeah, 

1021
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,640
but you know. 
Pierce was a rookie, so maybe 

1022
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:36,720
come on, let me. 
Let me finish. 

1023
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,280
Let me do it. 
I've never done it. 

1024
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,680
You know, I'm I'm making it up 
as I go. 

1025
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,720
But. 
But Jennings is, you know, 

1026
00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:48,200
tapped to be the. 
Number one guy and. 

1027
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,960
He immediately goes for over 2 
yards per outrun because that's 

1028
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,000
how efficient this offense is. 
If you're the number one guy in 

1029
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,920
the Shanahan offense, you can be
the dude. 

1030
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:59,800
And if Pierce all gets anointed 
as the guy steps up, performs in

1031
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,800
that role for a month, IU coming
back from a multi ligament knee 

1032
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,720
tear might not be 100% all 
season. 

1033
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,800
He might have trouble displacing
what Pierce all's doing. 

1034
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,440
And Jennings certainly might 
have trouble kind of working 

1035
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:12,840
back into Shanahan's good 
graces. 

1036
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,760
And this offense has has 
supported multiple guys. 

1037
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,800
I mean, you mentioned IU being a
second round pick. 

1038
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,360
Well, Debo's going right in that
same range too, because this 

1039
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,120
offense is traditionally, you 
know, been one that can support 

1040
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,080
multiple wide receivers. 
So I think that there is some 

1041
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,160
upside to the pure Sol bet and I
get why people are excited. 

1042
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,000
I think he's just really 
overpriced for the talent based 

1043
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,200
bet that you're getting. 
It feels very opportunity based 

1044
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,960
and I, I agree with everything 
you're saying about kind of 

1045
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,920
being not only opportunity 
based, but front weighted 

1046
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,200
opportunity based, which is 
weird for a second year player. 

1047
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:47,560
But so I have a really hard time
with the price, but I would, I 

1048
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,880
do think there's a ceiling. 
Like if he's good, he could run 

1049
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,640
away with a job here. 
Well, it's kind of funny, right?

1050
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,800
Because it's almost the inverse.
Of the dynamic we were talking 

1051
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,200
about with Trevion Henderson 
where you're paying a tax for 

1052
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,720
like the later season, you know,
breakout, you're like paying the

1053
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,320
premium for the front loaded 
breaking pure Sol stuff because 

1054
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,480
he gets really murky after that 
if he's not a superstar and like

1055
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,000
Joe says in the chat, if pure 
Sol is a superstar, the setup is

1056
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,720
there for him. 
No one is arguing with the setup

1057
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,720
like no one it's that first part
it's like no one thinks his 

1058
00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:21,480
profile indicates he's a 
superstar. 

1059
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,960
That's my concern. 
But I do think. 

1060
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,680
Patrick's made a Really. 
I, I, I'm going to, I'm going to

1061
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,360
say that you just convinced me 
that. 

1062
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,600
I hope I didn't convince you 
because I have none of this. 

1063
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,720
Guy yeah, it's one of my biggest
fates. 

1064
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,720
But that. 
I'm that I'm that I'm looking. 

1065
00:49:37,720 --> 00:49:40,280
At him too negatively, which was
the point where you made where 

1066
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,680
when Jawan Jennings got into the
number one role that the the 

1067
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,680
first retarget share in the way 
that he was scoring. 

1068
00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:48,520
And like you're right. 
If if if Pierce all becomes that

1069
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:49,440
clear. 
Number one. 

1070
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,360
I just I think it's crowded, 
man. 

1071
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,920
Like that was last year. 
That's the other thing I dislike

1072
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,440
about his rookie number so much 
is I uke was hurt, CMC was hurt.

1073
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,680
Debo had pneumonia, they needed 
someone to do all that, so 

1074
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,280
Jennings stepped up and did all 
that. 

1075
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,120
But if you can't earn targets in
that environment, what about if 

1076
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,560
CMC stays healthy? 
What about if IU comes back and 

1077
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,680
is good this year? 
And I think IUK is? 

1078
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:13,760
It's weird. 
That his situation has. 

1079
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,520
Not really changed and his price
is just like really falling. 

1080
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,400
Draco and I took him in a in a 
basketball in the end of the 

1081
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,680
13th earlier and then Sean, I 
took him today in the end of the

1082
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,880
12th and I'll talk about it on 
stream because I don't want to 

1083
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:26,960
take him again at the end of the
12th. 

1084
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,240
Somebody take him before then. 
It's absurd. 

1085
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,840
He's too he's too talented. 
He'd be 12 months removed when 

1086
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:34,240
he. 
Comes. 

1087
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:36,520
Back they're already factor in 
the multi ligament stuff with 

1088
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,720
the six week timeline. 
I just, I mean, I don't think 

1089
00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:43,040
he's going to be amazing, but 
he's probably a lot better than 

1090
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,920
Ricky Pearsall. 
Like a lot better. 

1091
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,720
Yeah, if healthy, I think it's. 
It's be hard to argue. 

1092
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,880
Yeah, we are. 
About. 

1093
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:56,120
To be on deck, we are on the 
clock, Ferguson, Lovelink off 

1094
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:00,520
the board, Keon Coleman, Joan 
Jennings gone is well, looking 

1095
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:01,960
at ADP. 
You're looking at some running 

1096
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:06,440
backs like Caleb Johnson, Jordan
Mason, ETN Dobbins. 

1097
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,320
What do you guys see in here, 
Mason? 

1098
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,440
Went I don't. 
Like Caleb Johnson, Very. 

1099
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:18,280
Much right? 
Now I'm seeing Josh. 

1100
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,480
Downs. 
Potentially, but. 

1101
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:29,280
Down read. 
What do you see, Pat? 

1102
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,760
Well. 
We could do Bill again. 

1103
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,240
I'd be fine. 
This is Yeah. 

1104
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:36,760
I was going to ask if this. 
Is where you guys take him the 

1105
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,200
only? 
Guys that have have ahead of him

1106
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,600
in my rankings are Dobbins and 
Caleb, but I don't like Caleb 

1107
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,520
enough to take him. 
Yeah, I don't love Caleb either.

1108
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,800
But I love Downs, you know, and 
I think Downs is a really good. 

1109
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,600
Peck with Daniel Jones. 
Winning the job, The two rookies

1110
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,160
under suspended Addison. 
We could use them. 

1111
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,160
Yeah. 
All right, let's do downs. 

1112
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,960
Well, Grimes downs here. 
Going to be ready for week. 

1113
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,200
One the the hamstring is not a 
massive issue. 

1114
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,320
He was already massively 
underpriced and then he he was 

1115
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,400
going to rise, but he didn't 
because Anthony Richardson was 

1116
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,120
going to win the job. 
And then Anthony Richardson 

1117
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,120
didn't win the job and now he's 
just going at 8:11 for reasons 

1118
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,920
that are there. 
He's one behind Keon Coleman. 

1119
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,960
It doesn't make any sense. 
Deon Jones is good enough to 

1120
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,280
make Josh Downs into a star. 
Josh Downs is good enough. 

1121
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,400
To be a. 
Star Even with Daniel Jones. 

1122
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,200
Let's put it that way. 
Yeah, I do like that pairing 

1123
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,960
with. 
Addison assuming you know, Downs

1124
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,320
is is good to go for the start 
of the Yeah. 

1125
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,800
And I was going to ask about. 
Pitman because maybe we could 

1126
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,920
have just went Pitman ahead of 
Downs, but I think both the 

1127
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,280
cultures, I think Downs is just 
better than Pitman though, 

1128
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:37,520
right? 
That's why I didn't ask. 

1129
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:38,960
I was like I. 
Kind of just want to do the 

1130
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,440
Downs thing. 
So Reed was the other. 

1131
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,640
One and then Pitman. 
On my receiver side, I've been. 

1132
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,520
Low man on Jacori. 
Kroski Merit in a lot of places.

1133
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,000
I was talking with Jacob 
Sanderson about it yesterday and

1134
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,080
he ends up writing the whole 
article and talking about the 

1135
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,280
text that I sent him. 
And I tweeted about it a little 

1136
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,240
bit earlier. 
But I guess I, I can't justify 

1137
00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:01,800
why we wouldn't take him at this
point. 

1138
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,400
I, I, I feel like I've ranked 
him low and I still have him in 

1139
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,080
this rank. 
Do you have him ahead of Caleb? 

1140
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:08,800
Oh. 
Caleb goes so that that comes. 

1141
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,560
I do have Caleb ahead of him, 
but I don't really. 

1142
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,760
Want to take Caleb, and it's 
probably just cause of ADP. 

1143
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,800
The only guy I have ahead of him
at this point is Dobbins, who I 

1144
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,120
do really like. 
But we have RJ Harvey, so yeah, 

1145
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:18,800
that makes that. 
Makes sense. 

1146
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,600
We can't take Dobbins so. 
It's either and. 

1147
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,760
Then we don't want Jay Reid. 
We don't want Jay Reid. 

1148
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,880
We Holden. 
Yeah, I kind of want to start 

1149
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,680
the goal. 
You could also stash Godwin on a

1150
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:30,680
team like this. 
He's only. 

1151
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,720
Expected to miss three to four 
weeks at this point. 

1152
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,720
You could do that. 
I think we just take. 

1153
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,520
I think we just take cross key. 
Merritt at this point. 

1154
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,280
I think won't come back. 
Take him. 

1155
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:46,000
Yeah, I mean I, I. 
I find it a little. 

1156
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,560
Bit strange that people aren't 
like the dots are so connected, 

1157
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,000
but it's like, oh, they, they 
just didn't like Brian Robinson.

1158
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,120
But you know, I guess they're 
you got to figure out what 

1159
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:55,160
they're going to do with running
back. 

1160
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,680
It's like they're going to play 
the guy who took his job. 

1161
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,200
Like what do you mean? 
Like maybe not 100% right away, 

1162
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,440
but like it's, it's going to be 
his job. 

1163
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,920
I'm in, I'm in. 
I want him, yeah. 

1164
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,960
I want him. 
He's behind ADP now in the last 

1165
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,920
three days in big Girl as in 
main events, he's going at the 

1166
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,160
eight O 9 we get him. 
At the nine O 2, we actually get

1167
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:16,960
him. 
This is this is called the 

1168
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,120
slide. 
In case you guys. 

1169
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,800
All right, Big beautiful Bill. 
On the team for our audio 

1170
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,760
listeners here, here's where 
we're at through 9 rounds. 

1171
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,520
Brock Bowers, Jonathan Taylor, 
Ted Arroyo, McMillan, Devante 

1172
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,840
Adams, RJ Harvey, Jordan 
Addison, Matthew Golden, Josh 

1173
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:36,400
Downs, and Bill sandwiched in 
between Caleb Johnson, Joe 

1174
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,640
Mixon, and JK Dobbbins. 
Fun start here for us fellas. 

1175
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:45,200
Very. 
So I'm going to. 

1176
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,200
Do the weird thing and talk 
negatively about the pick we 

1177
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:48,960
just made. 
But my. 

1178
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,120
With. 
Bill is what I. 

1179
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:58,320
Tweeted earlier is that they 
traded Johan Dodson right before

1180
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,160
the start of last season, and 
then it wasn't for anyone. 

1181
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,960
It was just to move on from 
Dodson and to kind of let him 

1182
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:09,120
have a new whatever, a new home,
change of scenery, whatever. 

1183
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,880
Luke McCaffrey didn't step into 
anything. 

1184
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,880
Nobody stepped in anything. 
I do, I do believe the the hype 

1185
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,120
about the really good offseason 
for for Bill. 

1186
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:21,320
I think what that's meant is 
they now have a roster issue 

1187
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,920
because they were always going 
to have Eckler, they were always

1188
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,000
going to have Chris Rodriguez 
and they were always going to 

1189
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,640
have Jeremy Mcnichols because of
the ways that those guys help on

1190
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,720
special teams in the different 
roles that they fill. 

1191
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,000
And so when Bill forces way onto
the roster, at minimum, now I'm 

1192
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,760
not saying this is the only 
thing, but at minimum that made 

1193
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,520
Robinson expendable. 
And then eventually, you know, 

1194
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,840
there's some behind the scenes 
discussions and Robinson, I 

1195
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,520
mean, probably it could have. 
Been Chris Rodriguez, who's. 

1196
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,400
Expendable but I'm pretty sure 
Chris Rodriguez plays a little 

1197
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,440
bit on special teams and people 
have talked about how he's been 

1198
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,400
cut in these things Rodriguez, I
just. 

1199
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:54,840
I don't know, I. 
Don't know that I buy into. 

1200
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:59,640
That stuff, it's late season, 
whatever you kind of have to do.

1201
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,520
Certain roster things late. 
Season, but they brought him 

1202
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,720
back this offseason and I think 
they know what they have and 

1203
00:56:03,720 --> 00:56:05,880
they had planned to to do stuff 
with him. 

1204
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,680
Yeah, he does plan special. 
Teams every active. 

1205
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,000
Game he played at least one snap
on special teams in as many as 

1206
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:15,000
13. 
So I just, I, I guess I think 

1207
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,560
that like he's going to be a 
part of the back foot now and 

1208
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,040
then. 
I, I have concern about the 

1209
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,120
overall scoring environment, 
particularly the receptions. 

1210
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,000
His profile's not good for 
receptions. 

1211
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,600
And Daniels doesn't throw to the
backs. 

1212
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,160
They do RPO quick hits to the 
wide receivers and Debo's going 

1213
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,960
to get that stuff and Jalen Lane
may get that stuff and then then

1214
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,760
he runs. 
There's no like check downs 

1215
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,320
either. 
Eckler's one of the best 

1216
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,120
receiving backs this generation,
had what, like 20 catches last 

1217
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,320
year, had basically nothing 
compared to the rest of his 

1218
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,800
career numbers. 
Kneckler was good last year, not

1219
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,400
just as a runner or a receiver, 
but as a returner. 

1220
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,840
He looked explosive last year. 
At times. 

1221
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,600
He looked like he had a little 
bit of his burst back after 

1222
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,160
being hurt in his last year with
the Chargers. 

1223
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,120
So like, I think he's still a 
big part of the backfield. 

1224
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,560
I do think Jakor Crossing 
merits. 

1225
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,920
Probably going to be ahead. 
Of Chris Rodriguez and Mcnichols

1226
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:03,960
and be the other guy that's like
playing a lot, but like, if he's

1227
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:04,920
in. 
A committee. 

1228
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,080
I never really liked the 
Robinson play, as you know, Pat,

1229
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,360
I've always kind of poked you 
about it. 

1230
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:09,760
But like if you're in a 
committee. 

1231
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:10,720
In a backfield that doesn't 
really. 

1232
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:14,400
Throw the backs, it's kind of an
issue, but Daniels does allow. 

1233
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,560
You to get some. 
Explosive runs, that's what he 

1234
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,760
does provide you with these 
mobile quarterbacks, provide, 

1235
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,760
you know, rushing lanes. 
Yeah, but I mean, Robinson has 

1236
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,520
always. 
Been for me at the kind of a 

1237
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,200
best ball thing where like, hey,
I don't know, this guy's like 

1238
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,560
nominally the starter. 
He's going to get some rushes, 

1239
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,800
you know, and he's just it's 
just underpriced for where he 

1240
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,280
goes and he's getting a slot in 
my lineup whenever he scores a 

1241
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,760
touchdown. 
Jacori Kroski Merritt is like 

1242
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,520
maybe really explosive. 
Like to me, he's more like 

1243
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:46,280
Pacheco where like he's actually
adding something to the offense 

1244
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,400
that they're like, oh, the other
guys don't do this. 

1245
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,960
Like what if we play this guy 
more? 

1246
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,880
So I think, you know, he's he's 
very much back weighted to me, 

1247
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,600
but we're going to see him right
away. 

1248
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,640
Like he's going to get carries 
week 1 for sure. 

1249
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,480
Is he going to have the starting
roles? 

1250
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,160
You're going to be startable? 
Maybe not, but who cares? 

1251
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:04,840
Like we have RJ Harvey with 
Jonathan Taylor. 

1252
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,560
That's right, he can work. 
Into a bigger role. 

1253
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,960
That's the bets we're making in 
these ranges most of the time 

1254
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,520
anyway. 
That's what Caleb Johnson is. 

1255
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,520
Because Caleb Johnson's not 
going to play a ton early. 

1256
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,320
I don't think he's not. 
Yeah, Caleb Johnson's not going 

1257
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,760
to play a. 
Ton early I I would not be 

1258
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,720
surprised at all if Jacory 
crossing Merritt has more 

1259
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,120
carries than Caleb Johnson. 
We want that's not that. 

1260
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:23,640
That wouldn't be. 
Shocking, I actually. 

1261
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,520
Feel like that's probably, well,
I might be it might be it might 

1262
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:27,880
be the best, yeah. 
It might be the best. 

1263
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,160
Even money on a it's probably. 
Even money the only. 

1264
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,000
Reason it won't be if. 
It's not is because Arthur 

1265
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,880
Smith's offense will have 30 
rushing running back carries 

1266
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,320
total. 
The running back. 

1267
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,640
Rush share Running back rush 
share is the. 

1268
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,560
Better bet that's the sharp. 
Bet I love it, Yeah, but I mean,

1269
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,720
it just feels weird. 
It feels crazy, but it's like, 

1270
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:55,280
hey, this guy is probably even 
money for Carrie's Week 1 and is

1271
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,360
on the much more exciting 
offense and has worse 

1272
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,280
competition for early down 
carries going forward. 

1273
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,800
Like he can spread his wing so 
easily. 

1274
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:09,360
So yeah, I'm I'm very in. 
Someone asked if there. 

1275
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,120
Is a bill clip in production? 
Absolutely not. 

1276
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:17,120
The way these things work is 
once we have like over 50% 

1277
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:21,040
exposure to a player, we no 
longer have them clip eligible. 

1278
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,920
It's just it's not. 
You're lucky you got fannin 

1279
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,200
people. 
Thought Fannin was going to be 

1280
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,720
this like this guy that Pat was 
way too into and we didn't have 

1281
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,880
a ton of exposure and now we 
starting to show up on a lot of 

1282
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,720
teams so it's getting close. 
The thing is, is though, it 

1283
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,240
feels a lot. 
Can I say that I'm so honored? 

1284
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,360
That I made the clip. 
Even though I haven't been dark 

1285
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:43,040
wing. 
Duck. 

1286
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,640
We talked. 
Man and I started doing some 

1287
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:46,720
singing. 
I love it. 

1288
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,120
I appreciate it. 
It's so good. 

1289
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,840
No, I. 
Mean the the thing. 

1290
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,920
Is though is like mushing. 
Your ninth round pick is a lot 

1291
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,080
different than mushing like your
16th round pick. 

1292
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,040
We can survive a 16th round 
mush. 

1293
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,280
We can't survive. 
There will be no Brock Bauer 

1294
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:00,960
club. 
You will never see a fucking 

1295
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:08,800
Brock Bauer. 
So the team Brock Bowers, 

1296
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,320
Jonathan Taylor, Ted Arora 
McMillan, Devante Adams, RJ 

1297
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:15,080
Harvey, Jordan Addison, Matthew 
Golden, Josh Downs and Bill 

1298
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,920
through 9. 
Thank you to everybody hanging 

1299
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:22,920
out in the chat tonight getting 
all of your lovely thoughts on 

1300
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,720
our team I love. 
The case. 

1301
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:30,120
For Bill in this range at this. 
Point the next conversation 

1302
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:35,200
becomes, is he a better bet at 
all of those things than Jaden 

1303
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:36,760
Blue? 
Is he a better bet at all those 

1304
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,200
things than Cam Scataboo? 
Because those are the guys that 

1305
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:41,800
I had a hard time moving them 
ahead of. 

1306
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:46,120
I did just do that in the last 
couple of days, but originally 

1307
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:51,720
when I moved him up I had him 
behind Blue, behind Scataboo. 

1308
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:54,720
Behind the other ones, I'm not 
going. 

1309
01:00:54,720 --> 01:01:01,440
To name because I think. 
For me, yes, on blue, Blue 

1310
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,480
hasn't. 
I've I just have had a harder 

1311
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,320
time with blue kind of the 
profile being more of like the 

1312
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:07,840
past. 
Oh yeah, I've been using the. 

1313
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:10,640
I've been using the sidekick. 
For my. 

1314
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:14,600
Slows from Miami and Jayden blue
I got to scroll to find Jayden 

1315
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:15,200
blue you. 
Guys. 

1316
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:19,200
Hate him over there. 
Well, the. 

1317
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,560
The thing about the Cowboys? 
Backfield is it it seems like 

1318
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,760
the answer might be no one 
because they they want to play 

1319
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,000
lipke. 
They want to throw out a turp in

1320
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,280
they're going to they're going 
to have Williams. 

1321
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:30,800
They all they're talking to 
Mafa. 

1322
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:32,800
You know, Sanders was the way we
were playing. 

1323
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,360
He might get cut now. 
So there's just like it's a 

1324
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,400
million ways to get hurt. 
It's just how the Cowboys 

1325
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,480
backfield is starting to feel to
me, where Merritt seems like 

1326
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:47,080
like their their plan is to I 
think it's to basically handed 

1327
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,840
hand the early down stuff to 
bill over time and they'll use 

1328
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:52,720
they'll use Rodriguez to help 
ramp him up. 

1329
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,800
But but that that will be his 
job. 

1330
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,000
And I just I don't I don't know 
that that's the Cowboys plan 

1331
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,040
like at all with blue. 
I think he could maybe force 

1332
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:01,720
that to be the plan with good 
enough play. 

1333
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,160
But yeah, that's where I'm at on
him. 

1334
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:09,120
And then scataboo feels like 
more all or nothing where he I 

1335
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:10,600
think he can just straight up 
take that job. 

1336
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:15,000
But Tracy's like the clear cut 
starter to begin the season and 

1337
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,520
is does he kind of devolve into 
a bit of a roster clogger where 

1338
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,560
you're not even like seeing him 
like is he good? 

1339
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,880
You know, he's still like a 
black box and it's week 4 and 

1340
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,960
we're cutting him. 
So that's that's what would be 

1341
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,000
the concern with scataboo. 
I like Scataboo a lot, but 

1342
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,120
you're just going to get more 
information on on on Bill. 

1343
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,560
Yeah, I like Scataboo a ton. 
Too. 

1344
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,560
I think there's just the the 
elements of like the multi leg 

1345
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,080
parlay. 
It's like got to beat Tracy. 

1346
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,320
We need the quarterback play to 
be good enough. 

1347
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,360
You know, we need him, you know,
to like, I see it coming 

1348
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,680
together. 
All right, we're on the clock 

1349
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,040
here. 
Luther Burden's gone, Godwin's 

1350
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,160
gone. 
But I'll toss out, you know, 

1351
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:53,480
Higgins. 
And there's some running backs 

1352
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,840
that are interesting, too. 
I threw I threw in the private 

1353
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:56,280
chat. 
Who? 

1354
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,560
I what who I would have had in 
the queue like 4 picks ago and 

1355
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,000
then the others went off and 
there wasn't any of them. 

1356
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,680
I think the pick kind of has to 
be Jaden Higgins. 

1357
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,040
We only have 5 receivers through
9 rounds. 

1358
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,600
This is it's a big tear break, I
think. 

1359
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,520
Like it's a huge tear break 
after he closes sort of the 

1360
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,760
wide. 
Receiver window and he shouldn't

1361
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,760
go this late, right? 
Is there any reason you guys 

1362
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,240
would be out on him? 
No, I'm I'm not out on him at 

1363
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,400
all. 
He's the only reason I. 

1364
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,320
Wouldn't want to take him. 
Is because I'm so excited about 

1365
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,600
some other guys, but let me but 
I think the the correct move is 

1366
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,240
probably to take Higgins who's 
actually the highest in my 

1367
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,160
rankings right now yeah, let's 
take him about other wide. 

1368
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:33,400
Receivers or other. 
Running. 

1369
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,520
Backs. 
Back running backs. 

1370
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,080
No, I agree with you. 
I think there's been a big right

1371
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:39,400
here. 
He's the last of the tier. 

1372
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:41,440
Yeah, great. 
And we're on the same page on 

1373
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,560
the way back too. 
Because I don't, I don't think 

1374
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,800
the guy in the one hole is 
listening to us based on some of

1375
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,040
his picks. 
I don't. 

1376
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,120
The other name is, is is Drake 
May all these Q BS go off and 

1377
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,400
Drake may doesn't go off. 
But I don't think you can take a

1378
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,880
QB. 
It's not flat enough. 

1379
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,640
You take Q BS when it's flat. 
You know what I'm saying? 

1380
01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:58,960
It's not flat. 
It's not flat. 

1381
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,200
We have to. 
Take it might be flat if this 

1382
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,920
between what this guy does, but 
it's not flat yet it could 

1383
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,520
flatten out a little bit yeah, 
there's. 

1384
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,760
Yeah, there. 
Yeah, so we grab. 

1385
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:09,960
Higgins there. 
Yeah. 

1386
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,400
It's not flat. 
Yeah, well, I. 

1387
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,000
Think Samson or Tuten. 
Yeah, I. 

1388
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:15,880
Would I? 
I would have. 

1389
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,280
Dylan Sampson in the same tier, 
but I'm pretty sure you're 

1390
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,320
saying Tooten, and I'm going to 
go ahead and change my rankings 

1391
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,080
because I still have Samson 
ahead of Tootin, but I'm just 

1392
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,080
going to put Tootin ahead while 
we're on the air because he 

1393
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:26,760
belongs ahead. 
You're talking about Tootin, 

1394
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:27,960
right, Pat? 
I'm talking about Tootin. 

1395
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,080
Yeah, Tootin's. 
Taking that job, I don't know. 

1396
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,000
You saw the Yeah, I haven't 
moved from Nate Tice or he's 

1397
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,800
like, I don't think Tootin just 
straight up takes this job you 

1398
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:37,680
got. 
Yeah, I don't know why I didn't.

1399
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,520
Move him ahead of Samson yet. 
We did the first and second 

1400
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,120
round and I had been seeing some
of the hype. 

1401
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,680
We just did that this week and 
I, I haven't looked at this 

1402
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,360
range of my rankings this week 
yet. 

1403
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,160
I go, I make a list of the guys 
that I kind of think could be in

1404
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:52,520
the discussion. 
Jayden Higgins was in the, you 

1405
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:57,080
know, honorable mentions. 
I want to put Tootin. 

1406
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,920
At 2:12 as. 
Like the one fun guy that you 

1407
01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:03,320
get in there that like people 
wouldn't expect next year, which

1408
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,800
is obviously not this year 
you're talking about probably 

1409
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,520
ETN and Bigsby are just not only
the question or in the equation 

1410
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,080
or in the picture anymore. 
Baseball Tootin is just the guy 

1411
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,920
in the Liam Cohen offense at 
that point, but this year I. 

1412
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,240
Think that also happened. 
That's the one that transition 

1413
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:19,600
happens. 
That's how he winds up as a 

1414
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,000
second year or second round pick
next year. 

1415
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:28,840
So the fact that I I had him at 
2:12 in 2026 ADP, I'm pretty. 

1416
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,480
Excited to get him at 11 O 2IN. 
This Yeah, that seems good 

1417
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,320
Travis CTN is an. 
Unrestricted free agent. 

1418
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,280
To your point there and then big
BBD on the last year was deal is

1419
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:41,680
the clear backup and it's just, 
it's just clearly Basil Tootin's

1420
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,200
backfield. 
I can, I can see that. 

1421
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,640
I mean, you know, the easiest 
thing is to just think of him as

1422
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,920
this year's Bucky Irving. 
He's got the exact same coach as

1423
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:50,760
Bucky Irving. 
He's kind of somewhat similar to

1424
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,840
Bucky Irving, you know, so it's 
an easy one. 

1425
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,240
And then it's super. 
Where's Bucky going? 

1426
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,520
Bucky's. 
Going and like Dulu 9. 

1427
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:00,720
So why, when, if anything, you 
might be low. 

1428
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,520
We brought that question up on 
bananas. 

1429
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:07,560
Somebody asked us or something 
or I don't know if Siegel posed 

1430
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,960
it like right after the draft 
and I was like, it's obviously 

1431
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:12,880
facial tune. 
He took Jarquez Hunter, who he 

1432
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,480
still is constantly talking 
about. 

1433
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:18,120
He we, he did. 
AI keep mentioning. 

1434
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,200
We did a draft together earlier 
today and we recorded it and we 

1435
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,600
took Jarquez Hunter on that and 
I asked him a lot, kind of 

1436
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:24,680
grilled him about Jarquez 
Hunter. 

1437
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:26,560
So if you're curious about 
Sean's takes on Jarquez Hunter, 

1438
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,880
we went through it quite a bit 
on today's episode of of 

1439
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:31,320
Stealing Bananas. 
We'll probably post like 

1440
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:35,080
tomorrow. 
But anyway, the tooting's been 

1441
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,320
that like obvious answer to that
question. 

1442
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,280
It feels like too obvious answer
to that question the whole 

1443
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,280
offseason. 
His his profile is so good. 

1444
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,960
His draft capital is way better 
than even Bucky's was. 

1445
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,120
I mean, obviously he's not he's 
not directly Bucky and what 

1446
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,800
Bucky did is an outlier and it's
exciting and you can't always 

1447
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,280
have that. 
There may not be Bucky this 

1448
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,600
year. 
Like you want access to this 

1449
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,600
rookie running back class. 
We've been saying it since 

1450
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,840
freaking like February and March
and and April. 

1451
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,040
Like we now have RJ Harvey, 
Jacory Croskey, Merit and Bashel

1452
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:04,840
Tooten who are like 3 of the 
like 5 most exciting ones. 

1453
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,000
Right? 
Like it's I'm very excited about

1454
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,120
having access to the rookie 
running back class. 

1455
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,280
That's the big macro thing you 
have to do this year. 

1456
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,640
Agreed. 
For sure, and it's a deep. 

1457
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:19,840
Rookie running back class like I
I think the there's just a lot 

1458
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:20,560
of. 
Ways to play because. 

1459
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,040
It's it's good at the top, it's 
incredible at the top with Ash 

1460
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:24,880
and Gente. 
There's there's a bunch of guys 

1461
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:26,960
who are all, you know, very 
strong prospects. 

1462
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,920
But yeah, the guy I've been 
fading, Ben is Caleb Johnson 

1463
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:34,960
because I think he, he belongs 
more with tootin. 

1464
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:38,080
I actually have Tootin and 
Scataboo and my and my stuff 

1465
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,120
ahead of them. 
Like his pure prospects, even 

1466
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,360
with the draft capital, I think,
I think they come out ahead 

1467
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:44,920
because of the pass catching 
element they bring. 

1468
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:50,440
But that's, you know, when you 
when you have that break, which 

1469
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:54,280
Caleb Johnson is kind of split 
the, the, you know, in between 

1470
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,040
those tears. 
And I think he belongs with the 

1471
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:59,160
the guys below him. 
But once you get down there, 

1472
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:03,160
those prices are so good. 
Scataboo, especially now that 

1473
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,240
he's back at practice and and 
healthy. 

1474
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,960
He's a great, great pick too. 
But yeah, Tooten's my highest 

1475
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,000
drafted player. 
I I think he's just like that. 

1476
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,320
That could be an explosive 
offense. 

1477
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,080
The offensive line isn't great, 
but I still think they can they 

1478
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,960
can put up points. 
They can just be so, so improved

1479
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:23,279
compared to last year. 
And they this, this team has no 

1480
01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:25,359
ties to these running backs. 
No ties. 

1481
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,680
I I think if, if Tootin doesn't 
get banged up in training camp, 

1482
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,760
he probably he. 
He's probably going like 2 or. 3

1483
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,800
rounds higher by now because 
because he would have, he would 

1484
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,080
have already started to be 
pretty clearly the guy they're 

1485
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,720
going to hand it to. 
Gretch, can we get? 

1486
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:42,080
Your. 
Take on the, you know, the Jaden

1487
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,560
Higgins pick. 
I think, you know, he's sliding 

1488
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,359
just a smidge here because of 
the, you know, slot demons 

1489
01:08:47,359 --> 01:08:50,000
playing in, you know, 2 wide 
receiver sets with Nico. 

1490
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,240
There was a lot of enthusiasm 
for Higgins I think at the start

1491
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:54,920
of the summer when he first 
landed there. 

1492
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,520
And now everyone's like, oh, 
what if, you know, he's kind of 

1493
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,560
odd man out. 
There's this Xavier Hutchinson 

1494
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:03,240
comments, etcetera. 
So sell, sell the people on 

1495
01:09:03,399 --> 01:09:05,160
Jaden Higgins at this tenth 
round price tag. 

1496
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,560
Yeah, well, I mean, he was. 
Incredibly good last year if you

1497
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,720
look at the college like you 
know, yards per out run profiles

1498
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,120
and stuff. 
I know people have mentioned 

1499
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,960
I've I've seen people like I saw
Madison Park Hill, who I think 

1500
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:23,720
is really sharp, make a, a case 
on on for Jalen Noel somewhat 

1501
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,240
recently. 
And I, I see people say that 

1502
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:31,359
they were both good. 
And that's just not the way that

1503
01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:35,040
I would articulate it. 
In 2023 when Higgins was in his 

1504
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,399
first year in an offense that 
Noel had been there in for a 

1505
01:09:37,399 --> 01:09:42,560
couple years, he had a Higgins 
had a much higher A dot little 

1506
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:46,120
bit lower yards per target, but 
it gave him like really similar 

1507
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,560
weighted targets per route. 
When I when I look at that stuff

1508
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,200
or sorry, I said yards per 
target, I meant targets per 

1509
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:53,160
route, but it gave him very 
similar weighted targets per out

1510
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:54,440
in terms of like the air yards 
and stuff. 

1511
01:09:54,440 --> 01:09:57,360
And then Higgins was just way 
better in yards per target. 

1512
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,240
So he had like a three yards per
out run. 

1513
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:04,200
Knowles good at like 2.55, but 
Higgins at 3 point O next year 

1514
01:10:04,480 --> 01:10:09,120
it flips. 
So Knowles targets per out. 

1515
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,240
Goes. 
Down Higgins goes way up and 

1516
01:10:13,480 --> 01:10:17,080
Knowles A dot also rose but and 
so the yards per out run kind of

1517
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,680
actually his yards per target 
went up. 

1518
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,320
The yards per run sort of 
converged, but the target 

1519
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,880
earning is what I mean that 
flipped suddenly Higgins at the 

1520
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:30,040
high A dot was earning 29% 
targets per out, which is 

1521
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:31,720
really, really good. 
And then the big thing that 

1522
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:33,640
everyone says about him that I 
really like about him as a 

1523
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,040
rookie is that he's got 
incredible hands. 

1524
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,920
And so then when I was watching 
the like the film on him, dude 

1525
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,320
is like it really good at 
playing the ball in the air. 

1526
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,560
And I don't think drops matter, 
but I do low key really love the

1527
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,480
guys that just always bring the 
ball in. 

1528
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,760
And so like Pat, you've done the
the research on the rookies who 

1529
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,840
like it's they they succeed 
because of efficiency, because 

1530
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:54,120
they don't always get a ton of 
routes. 

1531
01:10:54,480 --> 01:10:57,600
The, the way that I think 
Higgins succeeds is a is on 

1532
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,480
efficiency, which he had in both
years at Iowa State and in, you 

1533
01:11:00,480 --> 01:11:03,760
know, in prior during his 
college, wherever the hell he 

1534
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:04,880
transferred from, I can't 
remember. 

1535
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,960
But he's got incredible hands. 
So when he gets on the field and

1536
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,320
he actually runs the routes and 
stuff, he's going to play the 

1537
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,040
ball well. 
He's going to, he's going to 

1538
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,640
make those plays and I think 
they're going to rely on him. 

1539
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,520
People are worried that he's 
like too redundant with Nico and

1540
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,560
I think they'll just play them 
together and he'll get a work 

1541
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,640
off Nico. 
They're going to play plenty of 

1542
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:25,880
three wide receiver sets. 
I'm not super concerned about 

1543
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,520
like 2 wide receiver sets being 
a major. 

1544
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,320
I mean, they're going to do some
of that a little bit more of 

1545
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,120
that under the new offensive 
coordinator, new offense is is 

1546
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:34,280
like trending that way a little 
bit. 

1547
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,280
They like cage Stover, their 
second tight end, all that 

1548
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,080
stuff. 
But we know that with rookies, 

1549
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,800
like some of that's going to be 
there in the first few weeks and

1550
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,520
those things as the season goes 
along, man, I just think he's 

1551
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,800
going to be really, really good.
The the Noel thing, the other 

1552
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:49,240
thing I'll point out is just a 
draft capital. 

1553
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,240
They took Higgins right at the 
top around 2. 

1554
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:52,800
Like this is a really good draft
capital. 

1555
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:56,200
They took Noel end of around 3 
and Noel also contributes on 

1556
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,440
special teams and they had 
already like drafted Kirk or 

1557
01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:01,320
signed Kirk. 
My read on Knowles that they 

1558
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,920
brought him in as like receiver 
depth heir apparent to Kirk and 

1559
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,360
as like a kick returner, which a
lot of these teams are actually 

1560
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,040
prioritizing kick returners this
year. 

1561
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:13,480
Like the the eagles really sharp
team paid Avery Williams like 4 

1562
01:12:13,480 --> 01:12:17,000
million guaranteed, not not 4 
million, sorry, like 400,000 

1563
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,720
guaranteed to come and be their 
their kick returner. 

1564
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:24,880
The guy from from Atlanta, he's 
been a, he's been a backup 

1565
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:26,120
running back in Atlanta for a 
few years. 

1566
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,720
They paid AJ Dillon like 150,000
guaranteed to come in and 

1567
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,600
compete for the RB2 job. 
So this is like a depth RB, but 

1568
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,480
it's 'cause he's the kick 
return, he got like much 

1569
01:12:35,480 --> 01:12:38,560
guaranteed. 
I think that happened in the 

1570
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:40,920
draft a decent amount more than 
people are realizing that like 

1571
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,440
some of these some of these guys
are going to plan on special 

1572
01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:46,080
teams and like you, you start to
get the special teams picks in 

1573
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,320
about round three, round 4. 
I don't think Noel's like a bad 

1574
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,680
pick late, like he could 
definitely work his way in, but 

1575
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,800
I don't think they're on like 
level footing by any means. 

1576
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:55,760
They drafted Jaden Higgins 
really high. 

1577
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:59,320
Like you just said, it's a 
really good draft capital and 

1578
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,000
and Noel, I think. 
Is slot only like even if and I 

1579
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:03,920
I kind of like him. 
I think he's a decent prospect, 

1580
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,880
but I I think Higgins is 
definitely a better prospect and

1581
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,720
he's slot only and so he's the 
guy I'd be worried about with 

1582
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,640
the slot team and stuff, not 
Jaden Higgins, who's definitely 

1583
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,600
an outside guy. 
I guess like Xavier Hutchinson 

1584
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,520
might play some to begin. 
And I think the thing to me with

1585
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,600
with Higgins, like early on, 
everyone was excited because it 

1586
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,560
felt like you get to win twice. 
Like you get this dude who's 

1587
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,720
actually going to contribute 
right away because he because 

1588
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:28,920
they were calling him a starter.
He's working, you know, in with 

1589
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,600
the first team right away. 
But then obviously he's back 

1590
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,520
weighted because, you know, 
he'll get more and more and 

1591
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,160
maybe he gets better and better 
down the stretch. 

1592
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,840
But then it was like, oh, we're 
going to have to wait, actually 

1593
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,520
probably a little for his like 
role to fully materialize. 

1594
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,680
Not that I don't think he'll 
start or like have like 

1595
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:51,000
significant role right away, but
he probably, you know, it might 

1596
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,000
be a little inconsistent out of 
the gate, but So what? 

1597
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:58,440
Like if he's, you know, at this 
price, it got to me like where I

1598
01:13:58,440 --> 01:14:01,400
when I have the decision between
him and burden, I'm sometimes 

1599
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:03,640
just taking Luther burden and 
best ball because I I love 

1600
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:05,080
Luther burden. 
I think he's awesome. 

1601
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:08,840
The really high ceiling, but 
burden's long gone now. 

1602
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:10,480
Burden went up the other side of
the turn. 

1603
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:12,440
So we get Higgins to fall all 
the way back to us. 

1604
01:14:12,440 --> 01:14:15,600
I think it's a no brainer to to 
take the upside there. 

1605
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:20,680
Agreed. 
We are about to pick here at the

1606
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,200
end of the 12th round. 
We've seen a ton of running 

1607
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:27,800
backs coming off the board here 
since we last picked Tootin. 

1608
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:32,080
Still kind of in this long flat 
tier at wide receiver. 

1609
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:34,600
Marvin Mims comes off the. 
Board. 

1610
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,520
What do you guys see in here? 
I'm seeing Drake Mitt. 

1611
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:41,560
I'm looking at oh did. 
Drake may make it all the way 

1612
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,440
back. 
Yeah, this is where we took him.

1613
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:47,480
Last night 12O was it 12 O 8 
that we took him? 

1614
01:14:47,480 --> 01:14:49,840
I'm too busy still I'm. 
Looking up stuff on Jaden 

1615
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,240
Higgins and and Xavier. 
What's his face? 

1616
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,720
No, I think we take Drake back. 
Well, the guy on the. 

1617
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,240
Turn's taking 2 QBs. 
What were the other options? 

1618
01:14:58,440 --> 01:15:01,120
So there's a couple. 
Running backs like there's your.

1619
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,120
Algiers. 
Obviously. 

1620
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:08,120
Gorendo's not as interesting. 
Shipley goes to be like a Keaton

1621
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,480
Mitchell or an Algier Keaton 
Mitchell would be. 

1622
01:15:10,480 --> 01:15:12,120
I'm going to have a bad. 
Time if we don't get. 

1623
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,320
May so I would just say let's 
take unless. 

1624
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:16,840
There's a guy, you guys. 
Really want here that we're 

1625
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,600
actually I don't want to push 
him just because like best 

1626
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,800
practice, we should push the guy
around the like, let's just take

1627
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:23,080
the guy we want so I don't feel 
sad. 

1628
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:27,160
Let's take may I? 
Mean, I mean, yeah, I was gonna.

1629
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,920
Let's take May. 
I don't want to lose May after 

1630
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,960
that, but I was going to, I was 
going to say that I do really 

1631
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,160
want to get Mitchell onto this 
team, but I I'm happy to take 

1632
01:15:36,440 --> 01:15:37,880
Mitchell. 
Whoever you want, man. 

1633
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,760
Once we got Drake, man, once we 
have Drake May on the team. 

1634
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,360
I'm getting a little itchy. 
I just, you know, a guy taking. 

1635
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,080
Two quarterbacks on the 1st 11 
rounds doesn't make me feel 

1636
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,680
great about his decision making.
OK, that's a fairpoint. 

1637
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:53,880
That is a fair. 
He could do anything. 

1638
01:15:54,440 --> 01:15:56,080
Yeah. 
So he goes the turn. 

1639
01:15:56,080 --> 01:16:00,760
Goes Tillman and Douglas, so 
neither of our targets there. 

1640
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:04,520
I'm I'm definitely down for for 
Keaton Mitchell here. 

1641
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:06,800
Didn't Sean call him the best 
running back in football? 

1642
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:09,240
Yesterday or he he did. 
I think he called him like. 

1643
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:12,480
Christian, was it Chris Johnson 
and the best running back in 

1644
01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:14,200
football. 
I can't keep up with all the the

1645
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:17,320
platitudes. 
They're the the superlatives. 

1646
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,520
Were were called Bashful Toot 
and Jamaal Charles and I. 

1647
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,680
Blacked out after that so I I'm 
not sure what he said about 

1648
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,880
Keaton Mitchell. 
Keaton Mitchell actually looked 

1649
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:26,840
like Jamaal Charles. 
I want Keaton Mitchell if he 

1650
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:28,160
does kind of look like Chris 
Johnson. 

1651
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:31,000
No, I'm happy with. 
Mitchell yeah, the. 

1652
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,200
I went through the preseason 
stuff right and Keaton 

1653
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:38,440
Mitchell's drum beat has been as
loud as Jacori Krosky merits, 

1654
01:16:38,440 --> 01:16:40,080
but people just aren't talking 
about it as much. 

1655
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,280
When I went to the when I 
watched the first preseason 

1656
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:47,040
game, he got like 9 carries. 
He had like a 20 something yard 

1657
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:51,040
touchdown run and I think people
were like, that's the one I saw 

1658
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,640
getting circulated and it's not 
that impressive of a run. 

1659
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,040
It's kind of it's kind of like 
Corey Croskin merits run where 

1660
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,480
like there was I saw some people
saying a high school running 

1661
01:16:58,480 --> 01:17:00,120
back could have scored this, 
which is like, you know, 

1662
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:01,240
whatever. 
I mean, yeah, it was well 

1663
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,320
blocked. 
He outruns the. 

1664
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:04,560
Safety, though, give him some 
credit Come. 

1665
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,760
On yeah, he does the the run 
prior. 

1666
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,480
For Keaton Mitchell, he gets a 
little bottled up and he jump 

1667
01:17:09,480 --> 01:17:13,920
steps and it looks like he 
warped like 4 yards just out. 

1668
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:17,800
He's behind like the guard and 
now he's outside the tackle and 

1669
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:21,080
running full speed and he gets a
20 yard run right before the 20 

1670
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:22,960
yard TD run. 
That was way more impressive. 

1671
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,120
How he sidestepped into space 
was insane. 

1672
01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:29,120
Then so earlier than that, his 
first carry was off the left 

1673
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:30,560
side. 
He just blew through the hole 

1674
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,480
for like an 8 yard gain and 
you're like dude, I've never 

1675
01:17:32,480 --> 01:17:35,680
seen anybody go into the lineman
and out of the lineman faster. 

1676
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:38,240
It was the IT was insane. 
Then a little. 

1677
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:38,920
While. 
Later. 

1678
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,320
There's a defensive, this is all
in like 9 carries. 

1679
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:45,800
Defensive tackle is coming off a
guard, wraps his arm around his 

1680
01:17:46,480 --> 01:17:49,680
right over his shoulder, right. 
And it's like his hand on his 

1681
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,440
chest and you're like Kate 
Mitchell's a small dude. 

1682
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:56,560
He's about to yank him down. 
He throws off the arm. 

1683
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,440
Tackle from. 
AD tackle and turns A1 yard loss

1684
01:17:59,440 --> 01:18:01,480
into like a 2 yard gain. 
It's not amazing, but it was 

1685
01:18:01,480 --> 01:18:05,200
impressive for a little dude and
a little while after this. 

1686
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:09,320
He's running like an outside. 
Carry and the unblocked 

1687
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:13,040
defenders right in front of him,
he just does a spin move toward 

1688
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:16,400
the outside, toward the way he's
going and gets to where the play

1689
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:19,680
is designed by evading. 
The guy doesn't even get a hand 

1690
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:20,960
on him. 
It's an untouched, like it's 

1691
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,960
still yards before contact 
evading an unblocked defender in

1692
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,160
front of him and he doesn't have
to like go back the other way. 

1693
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,600
He still goes to where the play 
is designed and gets like a 7 

1694
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,320
yard carry on that play too. 
It was insane. 

1695
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:33,840
It was like 6 carries that were 
the best 6 carries I saw. 

1696
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:35,440
I watched every game in the pre 
season. 

1697
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,840
It was like the best 6 I ever 
ranked the top 10 carries. 

1698
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,280
I think I would have 16 Mitchell
carries in it. 

1699
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:44,160
It was crazy. 
His pre season we feeling is. 

1700
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:45,440
Insane. 
Go watch it. 

1701
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,040
You could do. 
I feel like you. 

1702
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,400
Could do some YouTube content 
that would do numbers there. 

1703
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:53,560
You just rank the top 10 carries
of preseason. 

1704
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,880
There is the market for that. 
I would watch that top 10. 

1705
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,800
Countdown and aside Keith 
Mitchell. 

1706
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:03,880
Mitchell I mean, that would be 
sick. 

1707
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,640
That would be so fun. 
So here's a quick. 

1708
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:11,440
Rundown of the team now. 
Through 13 rounds we got one 

1709
01:19:11,440 --> 01:19:14,480
quarterback, 5 running backs, 6 
wide receivers in a tight end, 

1710
01:19:14,480 --> 01:19:17,120
Brock Bowers holding it down up 
top Jonathan Taylor, Ted Arroyo,

1711
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,760
McMillan, Devante Adams, RJ 
Harvey, Jordan Addison, Matthew 

1712
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:23,760
Golden, Josh Downs, Bill, Jaden 
Higgins, Bashel Tooton, Drake 

1713
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,960
May and Keaton Mitchell In the 
13th round. 

1714
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:30,520
Here people are looking on a 
price check on Brian Robinson 

1715
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:34,560
post trade. 
Today he went at 12 five, just 

1716
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:37,880
after Trey Benson and before 
Rashad White. 

1717
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:42,200
What was your guys's take on the
Brian Robinson trade, What that 

1718
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:45,160
means for his value? 
Obviously we've discussed the 

1719
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:47,400
Bill side, but anything on the 
Niners for you guys? 

1720
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:49,840
Well, pissed me off that I had 
just. 

1721
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,760
Taken. 
This has happened to me like 6 

1722
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:54,760
times this year. 
I just took. 

1723
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:58,600
Gorendo in my big dog. 
Slow like 2 hours prior. 

1724
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,920
I was not envisioning that 
Grendo was about to get a bomb 

1725
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:03,960
dropped on him. 
It's not good for Gorendo. 

1726
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:05,920
That's that's my take on the 
Niners. 

1727
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:09,040
It's bad for Grendo. 
I think a huge bummer. 

1728
01:20:09,480 --> 01:20:11,680
Otherwise not a huge deal. 
And I didn't really move. 

1729
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:13,360
I had moved Brian Robinson way 
down. 

1730
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,640
I didn't really move him up very
far. 

1731
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:17,720
I moved him ahead of Grendo. 
I moved Grendo. 

1732
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:20,200
I think it's bad for Robinson 
for, you know, like. 

1733
01:20:20,480 --> 01:20:23,880
You goes to the Bears, OK, He 
goes to the Texans, great. 

1734
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:28,040
He goes to the the Cowboys, like
all those types of destinations 

1735
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,360
where he would have a role. 
I mean, he's just a pure 

1736
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:33,000
handcuff now. 
I don't think it's like a 

1737
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:37,120
guarantee that if McCaffrey goes
down like Week 11, it's 

1738
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,200
Robinson. 
It might be Gorendo. 

1739
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:40,880
I wouldn't draft Gorendo 
anymore. 

1740
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,280
You know, whatever Grendo you 
have is enough. 

1741
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:48,640
But it might be Gorendo. 
Could I? 

1742
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:51,680
Sell you a $500. 
You can't make dog share. 

1743
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,280
You cannot but it. 
But that team is still alive. 

1744
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:57,960
You know, I wouldn't I wouldn't 
draft the more he drafted him 

1745
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,840
now, but it's not like he's 
dead. 

1746
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:03,720
Robinson just got traded for a 
sixth round pick. 

1747
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,120
Like, you know, he's like. 
Hey. 

1748
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:07,920
Hey, Brian. 
We're we're actually not going 

1749
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:09,480
to bother having you on the 
team. 

1750
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:11,560
We're sending you San Francisco 
for 1/6 round pick. 

1751
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:13,280
That dude's not guaranteed 
anything. 

1752
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:15,560
Yeah, I agree. 
I think it's a. 

1753
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,520
Great point. 
I think it's really bad for 

1754
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,160
Jordan James. 
If you were, if you had dynasty 

1755
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:24,360
or anything like no, no, there's
your next Kyle Shanahan, you 

1756
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,720
know, drafted running back that 
does nothing because that's 

1757
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:28,640
that's a remember that guy where
the answer is. 

1758
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:33,600
I don't remember that guy. 
That's a very non. 

1759
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,520
Memorable name Tyrion Davis 
Price. 

1760
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,360
I can remember, and I don't 
remember that guy. 

1761
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:40,960
Yeah. 
I was going. 

1762
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:42,400
To float Ollie Gordon if he 
came. 

1763
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,600
Back around he has risen quite a
bit. 

1764
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:45,760
He would have been the other 
one. 

1765
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:47,640
Honestly, I think that should 
have gone right around Keaton 

1766
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:50,360
Mitchell and and I think Algier 
was in that discussion too, but 

1767
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:53,480
that was the last of a tear for 
me, those three. 

1768
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:56,320
Ollie Gordon. 
Looks like. 

1769
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,240
He's in a good spot. 
Yeah, everything's broke. 

1770
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:00,000
Right for. 
Him. 

1771
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:04,240
Yeah, it has. 
Yeah, there's still some. 

1772
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:07,320
Interesting running backs you 
start to. 

1773
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:08,320
See some of the rookies come 
off. 

1774
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:12,000
Woody Marks comes off as we 
start the 14th. 

1775
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:13,960
Round Rashad Bateman. 
Was kicking around there for a 

1776
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:18,000
while. 
He goes the tight ends for 

1777
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:19,560
people here trying to keep 
track. 

1778
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:23,880
You know, in the 11th round we 
saw Goddard, Henry Kincaid. 12th

1779
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:28,760
round was strange Ertz Chig and 
Janu, and then likely at the 

1780
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:32,560
start of the 14th, so starting 
to get into this bottom tier of 

1781
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:36,520
tight ends. 
We got, let's see, 141516178. 

1782
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:38,800
So we have 7 more picks, two of 
them obviously kicker in 

1783
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,520
defense. 
So five more skill position 

1784
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:47,840
players here to land the plane. 
It's going really well. 

1785
01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:49,320
I. 
Mean it is. 

1786
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,080
You guys need to be right on 
Matthew Golden. 

1787
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:59,080
I'm gonna hold Pat to that one. 
We got Dante Adams. 

1788
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,600
Is the other one that I'm like, 
I mean, please just be right, 

1789
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,160
but the rest of the team is 
like, if those things are right,

1790
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:08,200
this team is really. 
Good. 

1791
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:12,640
It's a nice mix. 
Of of big reaches and value 

1792
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,560
scoops. 
Slurps, yeah. 

1793
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,000
Dipperino slurps. 
Yeah, that's right. 

1794
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:19,360
Yeah. 
The the the atoms. 

1795
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:23,280
Getting those like the atoms 
type pick and the JT pick to 

1796
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:26,440
give you that foundation when 
you, you know, RIP a ton of 

1797
01:23:26,440 --> 01:23:30,040
rookies is is comforting. 
I guess it's sort of like we're 

1798
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:31,680
the blind seals. 
Right, We got to go get the 

1799
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:35,000
bread crumbs, stare in the sun. 
But then, you know, you got to, 

1800
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,000
you got to rest and recover. 
You go slurp some dipperino and 

1801
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:40,320
you get back out there and slap 
it up. 

1802
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,920
Yeah. 
I don't see, you know, we're at 

1803
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:50,160
the point here where the ADP is 
just like, yeah, it doesn't mean

1804
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:52,040
completely irrelevant. 
Yeah. 

1805
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:55,800
So it's it's going out and 
getting our targets now. 

1806
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:58,720
I like what Mac Nova said. 
Here, if the players are good, 

1807
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:02,080
this team should be very good. 
It's, you know, put it that way.

1808
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:09,440
Does make a lot of sense, yeah. 
Hollywood Brown, Roshan Johnson,

1809
01:24:09,440 --> 01:24:11,920
JJ McCarthy. 
We also have seen our first 

1810
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:15,440
kicker in defense off the board.
You're not allowed to accuse 

1811
01:24:15,440 --> 01:24:18,000
anyone of reaching for players 
once kickers and defenses come 

1812
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:19,520
off the board. 
That's kind of the rule here. 

1813
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:23,800
Brandon Aubrey and Denver 
defense in the the 13th round. 

1814
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:33,880
Oh, I just realized we're in. 
So this, this comment just said 

1815
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:35,560
Jayden Higgins to the moon. 
Texans passed so much. 

1816
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:37,800
That's another thing I didn't 
say, but I do think. 

1817
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:41,480
What we have to realize is they 
don't have. 

1818
01:24:41,480 --> 01:24:43,920
Running backs so this whole 
thing about is he going to play 

1819
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:48,120
in 2 receiver sets or anything 
like I mean he's. 

1820
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:49,760
Probably their second best 
offensive. 

1821
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:53,080
Player or third best they don't 
have running backs so we're. 

1822
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:57,640
On the clock. 
Like the one running back like 

1823
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:01,080
still, that just seems to me 
like such a clean bet would be 

1824
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:04,800
Giddens with all these these, 
but we'd be hand cooking here. 

1825
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:07,120
Oh fuck, we have Taylor. 
Thank you I. 

1826
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:08,480
Completely. 
Forgot about the Taylor. 

1827
01:25:08,480 --> 01:25:12,320
So we only have. 
We only have 6 receivers. 

1828
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:15,640
Yeah, we could do. 
Kyle Williams. 

1829
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:17,400
Right, he's still. 
That's who I was going to float.

1830
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,200
Yeah, I think he makes a lot of 
sense on this team with the 

1831
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:23,160
Drake, Drake Maystack. 
Yeah, he does. 

1832
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:26,560
And he's the highest on my 
rankings, but I don't even want 

1833
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:28,600
to take him. 
What I want to take is Jalen 

1834
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:31,160
Coker right now. 
I don't want to make Bad Tech 

1835
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:31,520
Chile. 
Cocker. 

1836
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,280
No, I like Coker. 
I mean, I was. 

1837
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,880
Down on Coker when I then 
there's like buzz that he might 

1838
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:38,160
have liked the team. 
I'm in on Coker now. 

1839
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:40,240
I think Williams makes more 
sense for the team with the May 

1840
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:44,040
stack but well the other one was
to roll the clip. 

1841
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,240
We could roll the clip and then.
And then see what happens on the

1842
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:48,200
turn. 
Yeah, All right. 

1843
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,160
I don't know if I'm going to be 
able to get this. 

1844
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,880
In in time because I did not 
have him in the queue all. 

1845
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:55,480
Right, sorry, I. 
Got I had. 

1846
01:25:55,480 --> 01:25:57,920
Kyle Williams in the queue. 
So that's just maybe we'll get 

1847
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:02,920
it coming back. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1848
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:04,560
And I put a couple other. 
Wide receivers that. 

1849
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,800
I'm definitely interested in as 
well, but we had Kyle Williams 

1850
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:09,760
here. 
Obviously makes sense on a Drake

1851
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,560
May team getting a pretty nice 
discount on him. 

1852
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:15,200
I feel like it's been like kind 
of quiet from him at camp. 

1853
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,520
I guess what Jalen Polk just got
placed on IR. 

1854
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:19,680
Not that that was going to 
affect things, but I just 

1855
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:21,200
haven't heard a lot of Kyle 
Williams. 

1856
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:23,600
Yeah, he's been, I think. 
There's been. 

1857
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:27,240
Some ups and downs. 
I listened to Ollie Connolly 

1858
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,840
breaking down the the tape on 
some of these rookies from 

1859
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:36,360
preseason and his take was 
basically like, he's still kind 

1860
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:38,440
of doing like too much. 
Like you'd want to talk about, 

1861
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:42,240
OK, let's make our pick, I'll 
talk about him. 

1862
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:43,560
We want a bunk. 
Wing Duckett. 

1863
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:46,240
Or do you want to Coker? 
There's trouble you. 

1864
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:49,800
Call deep, right? 
I don't have a. 

1865
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,000
Coker, he's duck footed. 
He looks really weird when. 

1866
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:55,400
He runs if it walks like a duck.
Wasn't his run like? 

1867
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:58,120
Compared to like a duck toad 
good, duck footed bad. 

1868
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,320
There's. 
Trouble you call DW. 

1869
01:27:01,480 --> 01:27:02,760
Duck. 
Maybe it's. 

1870
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:05,280
He's losing like a round of 
draft. 

1871
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,160
Capital, because of the 
direction of this beat point, 

1872
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,120
I'm taking the duck footed 
discount. 

1873
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:10,800
Would he be better if he wasn't 
Duck? 

1874
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:13,520
Footed probably, but like he 
just was happening offense. 

1875
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:15,080
I'm pretty sure. 
He can fucking move. 

1876
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:16,400
You're right. 
The. 

1877
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:18,800
Running. 
Style is crazy, like Russell 

1878
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:19,840
Wilson. 
It's not good. 

1879
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:24,800
I love. 
The way rotopad. 

1880
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:28,000
Says it's like Russell. 
Wilson it's not good and his 

1881
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:32,400
tone of voice is so funny. 
I love that the clip is sort. 

1882
01:27:32,480 --> 01:27:36,480
Of it's like only. 60% positive.
It's it's like kind of half. 

1883
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:38,760
Oh no, he runs. 
Weird. 

1884
01:27:39,440 --> 01:27:40,800
Well. 
That's it is funny like. 

1885
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:42,880
Dangerous. 
Did I sing that part? 

1886
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:46,640
Where in the song they go, let's
get dangerous. 

1887
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,200
Like you need that in the clip 
too dangerous. 

1888
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:51,080
I mean that we could. 
There you go, there you go. 

1889
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:52,920
It's the first clip we've ever 
had. 

1890
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:56,720
It's not just like pure hype. 
There's like so much skepticism.

1891
01:27:56,760 --> 01:28:01,320
In fact, this guy can't even 
walk correctly. 

1892
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:02,960
He's not worried. 
We are. 

1893
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:06,280
Yeah, you can. 
Tell the clips have not been. 

1894
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:09,320
Working out. 
Yeah, like this clip? 

1895
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:11,840
Is done. 
Amazing. 

1896
01:28:12,440 --> 01:28:14,360
I also like. 
Just just rotopat. 

1897
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:17,560
In there, just being negative 
about everything is always so 

1898
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:20,240
funny. 
I was going to say. 

1899
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:23,840
On Williams, the Connelly's 
breakdown with the I just took a

1900
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:31,800
second defense to the it's that 
it's a timing based offense that

1901
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,080
Williams is still kind of doing 
like too much. 

1902
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,160
He needs to kind of clean some 
stuff up, be where he needs to 

1903
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:40,280
be on time more. 
But like he's like clearly more 

1904
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:41,840
talented than the guys ahead of 
himself. 

1905
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:44,320
Pretty. 
You. 

1906
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:47,360
Know hopefully we get a little 
more like I would love if he has

1907
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:51,880
like 30% of the routes in week 1
and we get some eyes on him and 

1908
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:54,760
then you know, he gets up to 50%
by like week 3 or 4. 

1909
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:58,480
That's how he that's how he 
stays on our roster. 

1910
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:02,720
Where were you with him? 
With his profile, because I 

1911
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,680
looked at it like his routes and
his like per route stuff, 

1912
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,600
especially that Year 4 season 
after he'd come over to Wazoo 

1913
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,680
and he's playing with Cam Ward 
and it's like his worst season. 

1914
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:16,920
He's like not able to play well.
And then the year after Campbell

1915
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,240
leaves, he has a strong fifth 
season. 

1916
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:21,760
And he had some earlier 
production when he was at 

1917
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:23,800
wherever, Nevada or whatever, 
UNLV. 

1918
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:27,080
But like, where are you at? 
The the profile's not that 

1919
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,720
strong. 
It's not that strong. 

1920
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:30,600
It's. 
Mostly bet. 

1921
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:33,600
On, you know, he gets the third 
round draft capital in a 

1922
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:36,560
situation where he can get, you 
know, second round opportunity 

1923
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:41,280
basically. 
But he is like a, he's like a 

1924
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,680
route. 
The, the thing he does really 

1925
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:46,120
well, the reason people like 
him, if they like him is because

1926
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:49,240
because of route running, he 
gets open, he gets separation. 

1927
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:55,240
And so that's to me exciting. 
Like, that's probably the thing.

1928
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:57,080
I've changed the. 
Most on as far as wide receiver 

1929
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,520
evaluation over the years, like 
they going back to like where 

1930
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:01,560
I'd be in 2011 versus where I am
now. 

1931
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:05,040
It's like guys who can get open 
and draw targets consistently 

1932
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:08,520
has so much more ceiling than I 
would have told you back then. 

1933
01:30:09,480 --> 01:30:13,800
And so I think that makes him a 
really exciting prospect in some

1934
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:14,880
ways. 
Like, you know, like lad 

1935
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:16,800
Mcconkey last year was kind of 
boom bust. 

1936
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:18,640
It's like can he get he's 
undersized? 

1937
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:20,200
Can he get open and draw targets
consistently? 

1938
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:21,960
Because again, if he has a 
really high ceiling in the 

1939
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:24,600
situation, but you know, is he 
good enough? 

1940
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:28,920
Kyle Williams is like a lower 
tier version of that type of bet

1941
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:34,560
I would say. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1942
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:38,280
And I do just like the. 
The correlation with May I, I 

1943
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:42,080
do, I mean, May has a floor for 
sure with his, his rushing 

1944
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:44,240
upside. 
But if he hits that Uber ceiling

1945
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:47,360
like it's, it's got, I mean digs
of course, but I think Kyle 

1946
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:51,440
Williams is really the one that 
that takes him being a hit. 

1947
01:30:51,440 --> 01:30:55,240
Like that's where you get those 
super high in May outcomes. 

1948
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:57,080
Yeah, Yeah, I think you're 
right. 

1949
01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:58,000
Unless. 
Treyvion. 

1950
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,640
'S just like that's true. 
Just wheel route. 

1951
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:04,080
Like 40 yard wheel routes every 
game, 1000 yard receiver. 

1952
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,040
Yeah, which I mean at this. 
Point. 

1953
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:11,280
So yeah, after we get our duck 
footed King here, the running 

1954
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:13,040
backs continue to come off the 
board. 

1955
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:16,560
Kendra went right before Fannin 
Bershard, Smith, DJ Giddens. 

1956
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:18,920
We get a couple more defenses 
here. 

1957
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:21,680
Kyle Minungai goes, Chris 
Rodriguez goes, Sean Tucker 

1958
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:29,160
goes, Jatavian Sanders is well 
someone asking, is Judkin still 

1959
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:30,080
on the board? 
He's gone. 

1960
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:31,120
He went. 
He's way early. 

1961
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:33,680
Yeah, for Dylan Sampson, which 
is weird. 

1962
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:37,120
Yeah, yeah. 
Judkins is gone. 

1963
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:45,520
Yeah. 
So we have, yeah, we have four 

1964
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:47,200
more picks or five more. 
Picks. 

1965
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:52,040
Three more skilled position 
players here we. 

1966
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:54,920
Got one quarterback one. 
Of really good. 

1967
01:32:01,440 --> 01:32:03,200
I have a pick that I really want
to make. 

1968
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:06,440
On this team. 
I mean, yeah. 

1969
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:09,240
I definitely. 
Like the wide receiver? 

1970
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:11,160
Flyers the most of everything 
right now. 

1971
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:14,320
That's right, me too. 
I. 

1972
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:15,840
I think you were right about 
Giddens that. 

1973
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:19,760
Giddens was kind of the last guy
that really jumps out to me is, 

1974
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:23,560
you know, clear cut contingent. 
Value and. 

1975
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:26,080
I guess some other good guys you
could talk yourself into, but 

1976
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:29,200
it's just not that much left. 
I don't. 

1977
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:31,360
I'm not quite. 
As in on. 

1978
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:36,240
Well, I'm not out on the guys. 
That. 

1979
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:41,000
Pete, you said I have, I have 
them ranked here. 

1980
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:45,560
But Mark, there's so many good 
wide receivers. 

1981
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:50,640
Yeah, it's the wide. 
Receivers, yeah, This is why you

1982
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:55,120
just have to go get. 
The the running backs because I 

1983
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:56,560
mean. 
There has been. 

1984
01:32:57,040 --> 01:33:00,120
Like you look at so after the 
round where we took Higgins and 

1985
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:03,160
Slot Demon and Godwin went, you 
had like Keenan Allen and Iuke 

1986
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:07,440
in round 11 and now we're 
getting like Dante Thornton. 

1987
01:33:07,440 --> 01:33:09,960
We had like Bateman go like 3 to
4 rounds later. 

1988
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:12,640
Like it there's just like you 
look on underdog, right, Like 

1989
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:15,160
Rashad Bateman and Keenan Allen,
like Bateman goes ahead of 

1990
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:17,640
Keenan Allen on underdog. 
And I get the half point thing, 

1991
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,640
but you see like a four point 
gap here or a four round gap. 

1992
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:25,600
It just shows how how long that 
tier is once it breaks wide 

1993
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:27,840
receiver and you know, it feels 
like a little. 

1994
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:30,800
Weird coming from best ball to 
take like a Keaton Mitchell in 

1995
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:34,240
the 13th or whatever. 
But like that's that's last call

1996
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:36,800
for these running back bets. 
And you take Cedric Tillman 

1997
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:38,880
there, the guy at the turn, like
what's the difference between 

1998
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:42,440
him and, you know, a million 
other guys that we're going to 

1999
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:45,560
take now? 
So I think the yeah, you got to 

2000
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:47,160
you got to get the running backs
before they go. 

2001
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:52,600
Yep. 
More defenses coming off 

2002
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:54,960
Houston. 
Darren Waller. 

2003
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:57,440
I have not heard an update on 
Waller recently. 

2004
01:33:57,440 --> 01:33:59,640
Is he is he healthy? 
I don't know what. 

2005
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:02,120
Yeah. 
He just dropped a single today 

2006
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:06,080
so. 
I'll never. 

2007
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:09,600
Forget us rushing to the. 
Podium in our I know in the like

2008
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:10,880
last. 
Round of our first slow. 

2009
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:13,440
Draft when he immediately signed
with the dolphins, which I I 

2010
01:34:13,480 --> 01:34:16,840
think was the play at the tie, 
but man it has been pretty quiet

2011
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:19,080
on that sorry Ben ghost no 
that's. 

2012
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:21,120
OK, I'm not. 
That worried about getting him 

2013
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:24,720
because there's some good so 
there. 

2014
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:28,080
Is 1. 
There's one running back that 

2015
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:32,840
shouldn't still be here in. 
My opinion which is Taj. 

2016
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:36,520
Brooks, I had him in. 
In in the queue. 

2017
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:40,840
Too, I had him in the two Denver
wide receivers along with Coker.

2018
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:42,840
Taj Brooks has been going in the
14th. 

2019
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:46,440
Round and I. 
I kind of really like. 

2020
01:34:46,440 --> 01:34:48,920
The play like Semaj Pierine's 
not going to be a three down 

2021
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:52,720
back if Chase Brown goes down. 
He may even just play some on 

2022
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:55,240
passing downs. 
They really seem to like him. 

2023
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:57,480
The only thing I would say is 
that if we. 

2024
01:34:57,480 --> 01:35:01,200
Were to take a Denver receiver 
we get information on what's 

2025
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:04,720
going on there quickly where I 
think Brooks is is someone we 

2026
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:09,080
churn back like unless we're 
going to hold him all year as a 

2027
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:14,160
contingent bet but. 
Yeah, we still also have what? 

2028
01:35:14,440 --> 01:35:16,360
2 1/2 weeks until the season I 
guess. 

2029
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:18,600
I mean, that's that's true, but 
I. 

2030
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:20,800
Gretchen, if you like Brooks. 
I mean, I, I, no, we can take 

2031
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:22,280
Franklin. 
It would be Franklin. 

2032
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:23,920
Or Bryant. 
It would be Frank. 

2033
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:24,720
You're Franklin. 
OK? 

2034
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:27,000
I'm hard Franklin. 
You're hard Franklin. 

2035
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:28,680
I I got. 
Franklin I I. 

2036
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:29,920
Think Bryant? 
Bryant looked. 

2037
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:30,640
Really. 
Interesting. 

2038
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:33,080
But I think he was playing in 
like the Sutton role in the 

2039
01:35:33,440 --> 01:35:37,440
second. 
I, I don't know, I, I'm not, I'm

2040
01:35:37,440 --> 01:35:39,800
not that hard of Franklin, but I
was trying to help Pete out 

2041
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:44,000
because we are really low. 
I'm I, I have Franklin ahead of 

2042
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:47,000
Bryant. 
I am too. 

2043
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:49,680
Yeah, I. 
Just I think I don't know what's

2044
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:52,800
going on there and I would like,
but I think there could be some 

2045
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:56,000
opportunity and I yeah, Bryant's
probably the one that. 

2046
01:35:56,200 --> 01:36:00,000
Gets more routes, but I just I 
feel like he's more like the 

2047
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:02,120
backup X receiver to Sutton 
somewhat. 

2048
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:06,000
I feel like Vailey's trade 
opened up the slot routes for 

2049
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,280
Ingram. 
Franklin's probably rotating 

2050
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:10,120
with Mims still. 
I mean, the whole thing is still

2051
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:13,920
going to be a rotation, but I'll
also say too like. 

2052
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:18,080
Like you, Gretch said, this is 
last call for running back. 

2053
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:20,680
There's still going to be some 
interesting wide receiver darts.

2054
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:22,520
That's right, there's a lot of 
interesting. 

2055
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:24,080
Receiver darts. 
That's why I was, I was kind of 

2056
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:27,040
thinking we could go Brooks, 
Jarques, Hunter. 

2057
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:30,160
Do you guys like Hunter? 
Brooks or Hunter? 

2058
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:33,080
I I would be fine with. 
Either of those, I think they're

2059
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:34,320
similar. 
Yeah. 

2060
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:37,840
It's hard. 
You choose, Seagull is telling 

2061
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:38,480
me. 
A bunch of. 

2062
01:36:38,480 --> 01:36:44,200
Stuff about Hunter? 
A day that's and Hunter's fun. 

2063
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:46,960
Like we could get. 
He's a guy you could get early 

2064
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:48,320
information. 
On right where, like Hodge, 

2065
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:50,200
Brooks isn't going to have a 
weak one role, but Jark was 

2066
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:52,440
Yeah, take Hunter. 
Yeah. 

2067
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:53,960
Seagull. 
Was making. 

2068
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:56,760
A case that, like Hunter, may 
actually play a lot more than 

2069
01:36:56,760 --> 01:37:00,120
people realize. 
So we're. 

2070
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:01,680
Doing Hunter Hunter's per 
touched up. 

2071
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:06,200
Is pretty pretty damn good. 
So this team is pretty. 

2072
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:10,040
Light on. 
Backs like we do have Taylor 

2073
01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:13,920
Harvey, but if Krosky Merritt is
in a little bit of a rotation, 

2074
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:16,680
Tootin Mitchell are like 
backups. 

2075
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:22,080
But we'll be right. 
But hunter Hunter I think is 

2076
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:25,080
more likely. 
At least I I think to kind of be

2077
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:27,840
someone that we're like spot 
starting in Week 2 and we 

2078
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,400
realize we you know, right, 
right, right. 

2079
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:33,240
I think Hunter was a better. 
Pick for that than Brooks Yeah 

2080
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:36,920
but I think we. 
Maybe could have taken them? 

2081
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:41,280
Both instead of Franklin, but I 
don't mind. 

2082
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:42,680
The Franklin Pack I I really 
don't. 

2083
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:45,400
Yeah, I'm just I'm. 
Not like I'm. 

2084
01:37:45,440 --> 01:37:48,000
Too sceptical probably that 
that's the offense is going to 

2085
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:49,120
be really good. 
We talked about it. 

2086
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:50,440
Really good. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2087
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:53,200
I've been like that. 
Has been. 

2088
01:37:53,480 --> 01:37:56,440
Just like every slow draft, I've
just been Franklin, Franklin, 

2089
01:37:56,440 --> 01:37:57,800
Franklin, Franklin. 
Yeah, me too, man. 

2090
01:37:57,800 --> 01:37:59,600
Because he hasn't been. 
Drafted in those tournaments 

2091
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:01,640
either. 
So yeah, that's part of the 

2092
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:03,440
appeal. 
Yeah, right. 

2093
01:38:03,440 --> 01:38:04,560
Like when the. 
Sidekick starts. 

2094
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:07,000
Suggesting Dante Thornton. 
That's when I'm like, all right,

2095
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:08,200
That's when you start taking 
friends. 

2096
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:12,080
Check on that's when I take 
Coker or anyone other than 

2097
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:12,840
Dante. 
Thornton. 

2098
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:15,360
Yeah, and then Coker. 
Coker. 

2099
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:18,280
'S so fun in like the Eliminator
too, because you get the week 14

2100
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:20,840
by, you know, you get the Super 
late by. 

2101
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:22,720
Yeah, it was just, it was just 
nice. 

2102
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:24,760
I got. 
Quentin Johnston being. 

2103
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:26,680
Recommended. 
Now let's see if I can take 

2104
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:28,960
Franklin. 
That's one. 

2105
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:32,280
Yeah, the one thing the most. 
Bullying I've had to do on the 

2106
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:34,600
sidekick. 
This, it, it wants me to take 

2107
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:38,200
Tua just every. 
Too much Tua every. 

2108
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:41,400
Time I do it sometimes the the 
175. 

2109
01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:44,640
Tua sitting at the top. 
I'm like I do it. 

2110
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:47,120
This does seem I have a 
conversation with the sidekick. 

2111
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:49,640
Where I'm like if it's. 
After 150 let's talk cuz I gave.

2112
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:55,440
It just kill. 
It's got to be. 

2113
01:38:55,440 --> 01:38:58,480
It's got to be late enough. 
Yeah, that's it all. 

2114
01:38:58,480 --> 01:39:01,640
Right here's the squad here 
with. 32 starts looking You know

2115
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:03,880
how like 2. 
Start looking like eights later 

2116
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:06,480
than the parking about to. 
Close. 

2117
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:09,560
Not late enough? 
Give me another hour, yes? 

2118
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:13,280
Exactly. 
I call this an old John Mulaney 

2119
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:17,360
Nick Kroll sketch because 
there's too much to not tuna 

2120
01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:21,640
Brock Bowers, Jonathan Taylor, 
teddy Roy McMillan, devante 

2121
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:24,520
Adams, RJ Harvey, Jordan 
Addison, Matthew golden, Josh 

2122
01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:27,640
Downs, bill Jaden Higgins, 
bashel tooton, Drake may keep 

2123
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:30,760
Mitchell, Kyle Williams, Harold 
roll the clip fan and Troy 

2124
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:33,840
Franklin and jar quiz hunter 
here. 

2125
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:36,720
Drafted a main event team with 
Ben Gretch. 

2126
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:39,160
Gretch, what do we need to do 
with? 

2127
01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:43,440
With this. 
Last non kicker DST pick like we

2128
01:39:43,480 --> 01:39:48,080
we got the it's not tight end. 
We could take a second QB. 

2129
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:52,240
I put a QB in the in the chat. 
You would put a wide receiver 

2130
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:55,400
you like both those guys? 
Oh, that's right, we only get 

2131
01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:57,520
one of. 
Those crap, I was hoping we'd 

2132
01:39:57,520 --> 01:40:00,880
get them. 
I'm not, I mean. 

2133
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:03,680
We don't have to. 
Get the. 

2134
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:05,720
The QB 2. 
But I I definitely like him just

2135
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:13,360
considering how this team shook 
out so the the. 

2136
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:16,080
I'll try to pitch you guys on 
the receiver. 

2137
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:17,240
I don't really care if someone 
takes them. 

2138
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:21,880
If they take them and they take 
them, it's, it's well. 

2139
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:24,800
Should I not say? 
It, I don't know it's it's your.

2140
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:27,360
It's your call, take a peek and 
I think the idea. 

2141
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:29,120
Of a take. 
A peek would be we have McMillan

2142
01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:31,960
and Adams and Addison is our 
wide receiver 3 and he's 

2143
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:35,600
suspended. 
We have Taylor and Harvey, so 

2144
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:36,960
we're starting. 
Golden. 

2145
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:43,200
And Downs as it starts at Flex, 
JCM and Higgins and Tootin are 

2146
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:45,480
then the next players. 
I don't think we can start any 

2147
01:40:45,480 --> 01:40:48,480
of them. 
Maybe we could start Bill week 

2148
01:40:48,480 --> 01:40:50,280
1. 
We're kind of in a situation 

2149
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:53,520
where we're our week 1 lineup is
a little bit weak. 

2150
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:58,160
And so I do actually like a good
take a peek for this particular 

2151
01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:00,200
team. 
If you had 15 plus points, I 

2152
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:04,360
think we would slot him in right
away over 1 of golden or downs 

2153
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:08,000
and just you know, I'd like to 
see golden for a week probably. 

2154
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:11,000
Although I think you can start 
golden like Jayden Reid's got a 

2155
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:14,000
foot thing like he he might just
be the stud right away. 

2156
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:19,520
But and Royals. 
Goes there at the turn he does. 

2157
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:21,520
Yeah. 
Other one, yeah. 

2158
01:41:23,440 --> 01:41:25,160
Yeah, Roy. 
Yeah, Pat Bryant goes. 

2159
01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:28,640
Torrey, Horton, Royals, I think 
all of those guys in the 

2160
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:32,440
conversation for these these 
flyer picks here. 

2161
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:40,840
Yeah, I'm, I'm down with the 
quarterback too. 

2162
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:46,240
Yeah, he's a good pick. 
Gretch, do you? 

2163
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:48,480
Do you? 
Got kicker and defensive ranks 

2164
01:41:48,480 --> 01:41:50,240
ready to go. 
How much scrambling do we need 

2165
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:55,320
to do here? 
I've done enough. 

2166
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:57,920
Of these that I have a couple. 
Targets, that's it. 

2167
01:41:58,360 --> 01:42:05,960
So hopefully we get them. 
Yeah, I I haven't, honestly. 

2168
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:08,520
This is the Co manager. 
Thing where? 

2169
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:12,960
I have not once thought about a 
kicker or defense in these 

2170
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:15,160
drafts. 
So it gets there goes my, there 

2171
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:18,280
goes my pre my. 
Prime yeah, Defense. 

2172
01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:19,240
I know. 
Arizona. 

2173
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:21,240
Yeah, I know. 
That was a good one. 

2174
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:28,200
How did Silva still doesn't know
that we. 

2175
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:32,520
When Silva left early, he told 
us he didn't know. 

2176
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:35,760
He knew the draft was the other 
night, but then the day came 

2177
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:38,440
around and he said he was too 
busy. 

2178
01:42:38,440 --> 01:42:41,440
And so he only did. 
Like 15 rounds with us or 

2179
01:42:41,440 --> 01:42:43,240
something. 
And then he had to go to get his

2180
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:45,280
art done. 
And so when he left, the only 

2181
01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:48,280
thing he said was he's like, 
hey, last thing I'm going to 

2182
01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:49,120
say. 
Though before I. 

2183
01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:52,320
Go Cardinals defense round 17 
and me and Leonie started 

2184
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:54,320
talking about her like we're not
taking him in round 17. 

2185
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:55,920
We'll take him in round 18 on 
the turn. 

2186
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:58,320
We were like one O 8. 
So we're like, we'll bring we'll

2187
01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:00,400
take him out and when they come 
back around and round 18, 

2188
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:02,600
they're going in the early 19th,
like screw this. 

2189
01:43:03,440 --> 01:43:07,360
So round 17 we took actually the
guy that I put in the chat and 

2190
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:14,880
then in round and then he goes 
to the turn the. 17 And we were 

2191
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:18,760
like, Oh no. 
He starts going Oh no, Oh no, 

2192
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:20,040
we're dead. 
Oh no. 

2193
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:23,200
Very funny. 
Well, So what? 

2194
01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:24,160
What? 
Defense, did you? 

2195
01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:33,440
End up taking. 
The only said that the Rams. 

2196
01:43:33,440 --> 01:43:37,880
Defense has a really good D line
and a good Week 1 match up. 

2197
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:40,200
So we took the Rams. 
The other one that never goes 

2198
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:44,240
because our defense is bad is 
the Bengals. 

2199
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:46,960
But they play Joe Flacco weak 
one and they're I mean, they're 

2200
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:50,200
bad. 
They are bad, but yeah. 

2201
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:54,040
Rams. 
Rams home Texans is like good 

2202
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:57,200
for a. 
Couple throws to to nowhere, you

2203
01:43:57,200 --> 01:43:59,480
know, I mean, he's going to he's
going to Chuck it. 

2204
01:43:59,480 --> 01:44:00,760
He's not going to take a bunch 
of sacks. 

2205
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:01,800
He's just going to throw it 
around. 

2206
01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:04,280
There could be some pick sixes 
there so. 

2207
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:08,360
We are on the clock and it's a 
tough, I mean. 

2208
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:10,040
Your QB. 
Makes it all the way back. 

2209
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:13,440
He's a really good pick. 
I think he goes undrafted. 

2210
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:19,080
The the take a peek is Keandre 
Lambert. 

2211
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:21,120
Smith, he played with Herbert 
ahead of Harris. 

2212
01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:23,040
He caught a flag route from 
Herbert. 

2213
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:25,680
Couple plays later, he got an 
end zone shot from Herbert. 

2214
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:27,720
I know Quentin Johnson got a 
concussion in there. 

2215
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:30,400
I do like, I feel confident. 
Keandre Lambert. 

2216
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:34,080
Smith's going to run routes in 
the opener and he's going to get

2217
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:36,560
air yards and he's a perfect 
type of take a peek where he 

2218
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:38,880
could catch a couple of long 
balls and they're going to throw

2219
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:41,240
him shots. 
He's been really big. 

2220
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:43,960
All through camp. 
I think he's a really like the 

2221
01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:45,880
way that this team is at 
receiver. 

2222
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:49,120
That said, I mean, if you guys 
really like just lock up the KB,

2223
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:51,280
I'm totally fine with that too. 
Here's what I'm going to do. 

2224
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:53,600
I'm going to take Rams. 
Defense 1st and then let's keep 

2225
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:54,840
talking about this. 
How about that? 

2226
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:56,640
Yeah, that's good. 
That sounds good. 

2227
01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:07,320
Yeah, I probably Eileen Bryce 
Young where we I don't think. 

2228
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:11,080
Are very likely. 
To use Keandre Lambert. 

2229
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:13,520
Smith. 
In the, you know, in the take a 

2230
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:16,880
peek, obviously the point of the
take a peek is you get to find 

2231
01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:18,640
out and then use the points if 
you want. 

2232
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:25,240
But we're strong enough at 
receiver that I, I, I kind of. 

2233
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:27,600
Doubt that we'll use. 
It so I'd I'd probably rather 

2234
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:31,400
just take Bryce Young stacked up
with with Tedoro Millen and that

2235
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:34,440
could end up being like a a 
really nice Sprint stack for us.

2236
01:45:34,440 --> 01:45:40,320
But I think both are good picks.
I think it'd be fun to get get 

2237
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:41,960
young. 
Here, just like with the most 

2238
01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:47,600
likely scenario being we cut 
young and are like putting a bid

2239
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:51,600
in on on a QB 2 anyways, you 
know like week 1 or Week 2 

2240
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:53,720
waivers. 
Well, that's what I was thinking

2241
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:54,720
about the Lambert Smith. 
Thing. 

2242
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:59,880
Is if young doesn't go you're. 
Cutting Lambert Smith after the.

2243
01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:02,080
Thursday nighter anyway, and 
then you're picking up young 

2244
01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:07,440
before Week 1. 
Yeah, let's see so. 

2245
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:13,080
Quarterbacks left Young is the 
top quarterback by ADP and then.

2246
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:16,880
Ward is next. 
I don't know is is young going 

2247
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:22,240
undrafted? 
ADP of 1. 98 over the past week.

2248
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:25,360
Yeah, he's been going. 
On the 17th round. 

2249
01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:27,160
Actually, we we can take young. 
That's fine. 

2250
01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:30,080
I've got I've got enough take a 
peek shots with Lambert Smith. 

2251
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:35,440
I I do find the the point. 
Let's take young I'm I'm 

2252
01:46:35,440 --> 01:46:37,960
definitely an onion. 
OK, I do find the point Pat 

2253
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:43,040
about the wide receivers that 
were strong enough at receiver 

2254
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:45,960
like weirdly reassuring because 
I don't think we are. 

2255
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:52,120
We have McMillan and Adams. 
And we're hoping Stafford plays 

2256
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:56,320
Week 1, we're playing Adams with
Garoppolo, Addison is the three 

2257
01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:59,280
and he's suspended Week 1. 
And then we have Golden and Josh

2258
01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:01,840
Downs. 
I kind of would love it's to set

2259
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:04,200
him as well because he hasn't 
been practicing. 

2260
01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:10,320
Supposed to be ready week 1. 
And we don't really have. 

2261
01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:12,320
Another flex. 
Because we're not. 

2262
01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:15,040
I mean, unless we play Bill at 
flex, which we could do. 

2263
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:17,440
I mean, we'll probably just play
Fannin. 

2264
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:20,960
Just start fannin. 
Week 1 is that with the starter?

2265
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:25,400
No, I mean it's. 
I agree that it's that last 

2266
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:29,840
decision is a little tricky. 
I think it's definitely downs if

2267
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:35,000
he's healthy and then otherwise,
yeah, it's probably like Bill or

2268
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:38,840
even. 
Yeah, I guess I'm maybe more 

2269
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:41,680
comfortable with downs. 
I I think we'll have downs like 

2270
01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:43,920
downs. 
Seems like it'll be. 

2271
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:46,360
I got a question then though. 
Is there a? 

2272
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:49,080
Waiver run. 
Before yeah, there is Thursday 

2273
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:50,760
night. 
Can we cut the? 

2274
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:54,800
Kicker before Thursday night for
Keandre Lambert. 

2275
01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:58,000
Smith if he goes. 
Undrafted and then recut Keandre

2276
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:01,680
Lambert Smith for a kicker. 
I'm pretty sure you always have 

2277
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:03,320
to. 
Have the full line up. 

2278
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:05,040
You always have to have a kicker
on the roster. 

2279
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:06,480
I don't. 
Think you're allowed to ever? 

2280
01:48:06,480 --> 01:48:13,000
Not have a kicker in defense. 
So we add Bryce Young. 

2281
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:18,680
As our QB two in the 19th round 
definitely can get some really 

2282
01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:20,640
nice prices on some of these QB 
twos. 

2283
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:23,600
Like if you're coming over from 
playing basketball, you get 

2284
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:27,400
Pennex here in the 17th, Jordan 
Love in the 18th, and we get 

2285
01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:30,160
Bryce wait in the. 
So Henry says you always have to

2286
01:48:30,160 --> 01:48:31,880
have a. 
Full line up, Alex P Keaton 

2287
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:33,640
says. 
You don't have to have a kicker.

2288
01:48:35,120 --> 01:48:37,520
I would. 
I know that you don't. 

2289
01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:39,520
Have to have a full. 
Lineup because like Sean, when 

2290
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:42,040
he gets mad at our team, he'll 
take the players out of the 

2291
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:44,280
lineup. 
No, no, I mean. 

2292
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:45,120
On the roster? 
No. 

2293
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:46,680
No. 
He beats on the roster on the. 

2294
01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:48,600
Roster, I'm sure, but. 
I'm just saying like you can. 

2295
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:51,400
You can physically take like, 
oh, you can have no one in the. 

2296
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:53,160
You can bench on the. 
Line, you can bench, yeah, yeah.

2297
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:56,160
Yeah, sometimes. 
People do that, you just go and 

2298
01:48:56,160 --> 01:48:57,280
they. 
They don't want to show you who 

2299
01:48:57,280 --> 01:48:59,080
they're going to play, so 
there's there's something. 

2300
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:02,600
I love this heated. 
Discussion. 

2301
01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:06,160
Then there's just a random shot 
punt kicker lol funny thing to 

2302
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:11,120
say. 
Nice little double entendre. 

2303
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:13,440
There, yeah, but you reconvinced
me that maybe we're. 

2304
01:49:13,440 --> 01:49:18,120
Not strong enough for wide 
receiver, but we're obviously I 

2305
01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:21,120
think if we need to be now. 
Yeah, if DeAndre and Lambert. 

2306
01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:25,760
Smith. 
Had a like a 15 point game, I 

2307
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:29,280
think we would start it, which I
think he can do if he has like a

2308
01:49:29,320 --> 01:49:33,400
long touch now, you know like he
could have a 2 catch game and 

2309
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:38,560
have two for 60 and a TD is like
you know, 14 points, right. 

2310
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:44,400
Yeah, that, that is like going. 
Back you know, that's the kind 

2311
01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:50,480
of decision that the Downs. 
Not if Downs isn't healthy for. 

2312
01:49:50,480 --> 01:49:53,000
Week 1 that sucks because then 
you look back and say like 

2313
01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:56,120
between Addison golden downs, 
you want to flip one of those to

2314
01:49:56,120 --> 01:50:01,600
a lava basically right? 
But that's right, if you get 

2315
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:04,280
downs if. 
You get downs healthy then you 

2316
01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:08,840
you feel fine about it. 
And I think that when you take 

2317
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:11,600
Golden over a. 
Lava, you're just saying you're 

2318
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:14,440
you're just committing to the 
yeah. 

2319
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:17,800
He's the number one on an 
offense that. 

2320
01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:19,520
Can actually score points is 
what you're saying. 

2321
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:21,960
We took Addison. 
Early. 

2322
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:23,760
This is what happens when you 
take Addison early. 

2323
01:50:24,440 --> 01:50:26,120
I I want what I did just 
realize. 

2324
01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:29,440
Though guys, we're worried about
our Week 1 lineup. 

2325
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:34,560
What if I told you we have Week 
1 correlation between Drake May 

2326
01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:38,480
and Brock Bowers just going back
and forth week? 

2327
01:50:38,480 --> 01:50:39,720
1. 
At. 

2328
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:42,480
Foxboro. 
There you go. 

2329
01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:46,560
Couldn't, couldn't be happier. 
That's a fun week. 

2330
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:49,720
One match up for the Patriots. 
Like they did also a good start 

2331
01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:51,640
there. 
It's it's so funny you say that 

2332
01:50:51,640 --> 01:50:52,720
cuz. 
This morning or? 

2333
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:56,160
Just like before the draft, 
Lauren and I and April were 

2334
01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:59,000
walking to get our mail and we 
get like, you know, one of those

2335
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:01,360
like magnets that they send you 
from some real estate with the 

2336
01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:04,520
Patriots schedule on it. 
And we were looking at the the 

2337
01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:06,120
schedule and Lauren was looking 
at it too. 

2338
01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:09,440
And I was just like, man, the 
start for the Patriots is really

2339
01:51:09,440 --> 01:51:12,280
nice because you get the 
Raiders, they are on the road in

2340
01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:14,640
Miami, which they've never 
historically played well there 

2341
01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:16,440
when it's hot early on in the 
season. 

2342
01:51:16,640 --> 01:51:18,280
But then home versus the 
Steelers, who are going to be 

2343
01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:21,160
bad, home versus the Panthers, 
like those are pretty nice 

2344
01:51:21,160 --> 01:51:22,600
start. 
And their overall schedule is 

2345
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:25,280
like pretty light. 
Like it's like it's very easy. 

2346
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:27,440
Yeah, in. 
Ravens and otherwise, it looks. 

2347
01:51:27,480 --> 01:51:30,000
Really good. 
Well, have you seen like the the

2348
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:30,480
Warren? 
Sharp. 

2349
01:51:30,480 --> 01:51:34,440
Graphic is like, it's like 49ers
are like up at the very easiest 

2350
01:51:34,440 --> 01:51:37,240
possible part of the chart and 
then it's a pretty steep 

2351
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:40,600
decline, but Patriots are next. 
And then it's like they're 

2352
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:43,120
paired with somebody. 
And then there's like everybody 

2353
01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:46,120
else in the league, like the 
Patriots have a very easy 

2354
01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:48,360
schedule. 
Yep. 

2355
01:51:49,680 --> 01:51:50,960
Hang. 
On Let's Get in the Mood. 

2356
01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:54,080
Let's Get in the mood to get our
mind right for this final 

2357
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:56,880
selection. 
And also as APSA, if you have 

2358
01:51:56,880 --> 01:52:01,280
dogs, babies, or hearing issues 
I would turn down your audio 

2359
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:05,280
right now. 
Kicker chasing. 

2360
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:08,360
It's the show. 
Where we. 

2361
01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:12,040
Chase the best kickers, the 
kickers that help you win 

2362
01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:15,960
championships, the biggest legs,
the breaking news. 

2363
01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:18,960
It's everything. 
You come to. 

2364
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:22,760
Love and know the time is now 
for kicker chasing. 

2365
01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:36,640
Let's get some fucking kickers. 
Siren is is demented I also. 

2366
01:52:36,640 --> 01:52:38,680
There's there's a Justin. 
Tucker Pick in there. 

2367
01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:41,080
And then it also made me realize
we're never doing the Ave. 

2368
01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:43,680
Maria because we talked about 
that last. 

2369
01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:46,720
Night where? 
Even our our kicking or our clip

2370
01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:49,760
mushes extend to the Oh my God, 
yeah. 

2371
01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:53,640
The only we used to frequently. 
Talk about the only clip that 

2372
01:52:53,640 --> 01:52:56,640
didn't kill somebody was it was 
Justin Tucker. 

2373
01:52:57,000 --> 01:52:59,040
Yeah, if anything it was. 
The. 

2374
01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:01,480
Worst one of all, it was the 
worst of all, we didn't. 

2375
01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:02,760
Know it yet? 
It. 

2376
01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:04,640
Just wasn't public. 
Knowledge yet? 

2377
01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:07,160
So we're on the clock. 
Casey sent in a. 

2378
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:10,680
Dollar 99 super chat for us to 
take the Ravens kicker Tyler 

2379
01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:13,160
Loop. 
Can you come up with an idea 

2380
01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:15,040
better than that? 
No, I don't have it. 

2381
01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:18,240
Was going to be Jake. 
Elliott but also so Henry was 

2382
01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:20,600
saying we can't cut our kicker, 
but then he went into the saying

2383
01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:22,480
that we have to draft the 
kicker, which we knew we had to 

2384
01:53:22,480 --> 01:53:25,000
draft 1. 
I think whoever we take, we 

2385
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:27,440
should cut. 
So if we want the Ravens kicker,

2386
01:53:27,440 --> 01:53:30,360
we should re add. 
I'm going to make the case that 

2387
01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:33,640
we should cut him before 
Thursday night and then re add 

2388
01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:36,960
on Sunday morning. 
I'm. 

2389
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:38,640
I'm not. 
OK. 

2390
01:53:39,560 --> 01:53:42,520
So just take, not the. 
Kicker that we want actually 

2391
01:53:42,640 --> 01:53:45,240
take a little bit of a worse 
kicker someone's cool there in 

2392
01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:47,240
case I don't well then talking 
about Minnesota we'll. 

2393
01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:48,680
Take. 
We'll take Will Riker. 

2394
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:50,400
Yeah, Riker's a good one. 
Take care. 

2395
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:54,160
There you. 
Go beautiful. 

2396
01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:57,280
Yeah, people. 
Yeah, it's always a. 

2397
01:53:57,280 --> 01:53:58,720
Race to the volume before the 
red. 

2398
01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:03,480
X Here's the thing, you know, 
now we have real professionals 

2399
01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:07,920
who make these clips. 
Like actually trained video 

2400
01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:11,000
editors. 
This was me on a MacBook. 

2401
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:13,160
Just like hacking things 
together. 

2402
01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:16,480
No sound mixing. 
Fucking worst editing you've 

2403
01:54:16,480 --> 01:54:18,400
ever seen. 
Well, jokes on our editors 

2404
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:20,280
because. 
That's the best clip we have. 

2405
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:21,200
It's incredible. 
It's. 

2406
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:23,920
So good. 
Kazy. 

2407
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:26,320
Kazy, you know. 
We didn't draft your guy so that

2408
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:28,760
we can add him later. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2409
01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:30,760
Oh. 
Yeah, I'm making stuff, so we're

2410
01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:34,760
cutting the. 
Other guy, we want to cut the 

2411
01:54:34,760 --> 01:54:38,880
kicker we drafted for Ben's look
ahead, yes, who are then going 

2412
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:41,800
to cut because he's not going to
add points and then we're going 

2413
01:54:41,800 --> 01:54:44,960
to take the kicker, correct? 
Or if he does have points, we'll

2414
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:47,320
cut some off and then he has 
points and we have to cut. 

2415
01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:48,800
Like, I don't know, Jack was 
Hunter. 

2416
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:49,960
It's going to suck if he has 
points. 

2417
01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:51,040
Yeah, it's going to suck if he 
has points. 

2418
01:54:55,360 --> 01:54:58,240
I didn't think this far ahead. 
Whatever different works. 

2419
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:01,640
Oh my goodness. 
All right, let. 

2420
01:55:01,640 --> 01:55:04,320
Me let me get this back up here 
let's get a let's get a final 

2421
01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:07,480
recap. 
I want to get Gretch's full 

2422
01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:11,200
thoughts on this team. 
FFPC main event. 

2423
01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:13,200
People do forget it's tight end 
premium. 

2424
01:55:13,680 --> 01:55:17,280
We drafted 2 quarterbacks, 6 
running backs, 8 wide receivers,

2425
01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:19,760
2 tight end, kicker and defense.
Let's go to the team view here 

2426
01:55:20,040 --> 01:55:22,720
so we can see how this looks. 
Drake May at quarterback. 

2427
01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:25,680
Jonathan Taylor, RJ Harvey, 
Devante Adams, Ted Arroyo. 

2428
01:55:25,680 --> 01:55:26,680
McMillan. 
Brock Bowers. 

2429
01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:28,040
Matthew Golden. 
We're going to have to get 

2430
01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:29,480
Jordan Addison out of the 
starting lineup. 

2431
01:55:29,480 --> 01:55:33,080
He is suspended. 
Bryce Young, Basil Tooton, Bill 

2432
01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:35,160
Keaton. 
Mitchell Jarquez Hunter, Josh 

2433
01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:36,680
Downs. 
Get healthy Brother. 

2434
01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:39,040
Jaden Higgins, Kyle Williams. 
Troy Franklin. 

2435
01:55:39,240 --> 01:55:42,240
Harold Fannin this is a ship 
chasing ass team. 

2436
01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:43,680
I had a blast. 
Draft it sure is. 

2437
01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:46,400
This team fucks. 
That's that's what it does, 

2438
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:48,480
Yeah. 
I enjoy this team. 

2439
01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:50,520
Quite a bit. 
It's gonna, we're gonna have to 

2440
01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:53,000
scramble a little bit in the 
early season, but like, isn't 

2441
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:55,600
that half the fun of doing an 
FPZ main event? 

2442
01:55:55,880 --> 01:55:58,440
You scramble a little in the 
early weeks and then it all 

2443
01:55:58,440 --> 01:56:00,640
comes together. 
What what we have here is we've 

2444
01:56:00,640 --> 01:56:02,520
got running back production out 
of the gate. 

2445
01:56:03,480 --> 01:56:05,800
Maybe not everyone will be super
comfortable with RJ Harvey's the

2446
01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:09,560
RV 2IN Week 1, but I am I'm 
excited about that. 

2447
01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:14,240
And then we have, you know, 
we've got some receiver stuff to

2448
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:16,640
figure out, but we have Jordan 
Addison coming back and he's 

2449
01:56:16,640 --> 01:56:18,720
going to be a huge boost. 
I think 10 or Oak Mill and it's 

2450
01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:20,040
going to be productive right 
away. 

2451
01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:21,720
And I think Golden might be as 
well. 

2452
01:56:21,720 --> 01:56:24,240
So it's one of those things 
where we're taking a little leap

2453
01:56:24,240 --> 01:56:27,240
of faith, but I think we'll be 
rewarded. 

2454
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:30,640
What do you think, Gretch? 
I love it. 

2455
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:34,880
I think this team's fantastic. 
I like a lot of the upside 

2456
01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:37,480
pieces that we were able to jam 
into the build. 

2457
01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:41,200
I do think, I mean, it's nice 
now looking back that we have 

2458
01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:43,640
Taylor and Adams, like you said,
you need those pieces. 

2459
01:56:44,600 --> 01:56:48,280
I mean, if I'm not like you guys
know, I was a little bit 

2460
01:56:48,280 --> 01:56:50,960
indecisive on golden, but I 
ultimately you get, you have me 

2461
01:56:50,960 --> 01:56:52,120
decided I'm the one who decided 
it. 

2462
01:56:52,120 --> 01:56:55,880
I, I think, I don't think I 
would take a lava over Golden 

2463
01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:59,800
here, but I, I'm thinking about 
it from the perspective that if 

2464
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:01,840
a lava was there instead of 
golden, I think I would feel 

2465
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:04,560
better, which is, you know what 
I mean, kind of 

2466
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:08,760
counterintuitive. 
Downs is healthy and he's going 

2467
01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:10,760
to go in there for Addison. 
The week 1 lineup is going to be

2468
01:57:10,760 --> 01:57:12,720
fine. 
We don't need to take a peek. 

2469
01:57:12,720 --> 01:57:17,320
If that doesn't work out, if he 
doesn't play for any reason, I 

2470
01:57:17,320 --> 01:57:20,640
think Bill is then the next guy 
that could come in and I think 

2471
01:57:20,720 --> 01:57:22,400
that's fine. 
You could start Bill in week 1 

2472
01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:25,200
if you needed to. 
And then I mean, so you have him

2473
01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:27,920
on here, you have Tooting on 
here, you have Higgins on here, 

2474
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:31,640
keep Mitchell. 
Shawn keeps talking about jerk 

2475
01:57:31,640 --> 01:57:34,240
was Hunter. 
I'm not as sold on it, but we 

2476
01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:36,120
get him after like everyone else
is gone. 

2477
01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:38,840
Isaac Gorenda went the round 
prior and we talked a little bit

2478
01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:41,760
about Taj Brooks, but every 
other like meaningful rookie bet

2479
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:43,520
was gone as you guys were 
talking about like that window 

2480
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:46,520
kind of closed. 
Harold Fannon. 

2481
01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:48,560
On this team. 
I mean, there's a lot of guys 

2482
01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:50,760
that you really like giving 
Drake Mays, our quarterback on 

2483
01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:52,280
this team is really funny. 
That's fun. 

2484
01:57:52,280 --> 01:57:53,640
The best quarterback bet? 
When? 

2485
01:57:53,640 --> 01:57:55,360
You, you know, push. 
QB a little bit. 

2486
01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:58,600
It's got all the pieces, like 
it's a Bowers team, it's a May 

2487
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:01,200
team, you know the stuff. 
Look. 

2488
01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:03,640
Like Taylor? 
There's a world to be right. 

2489
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:06,320
This is a fun team. 
There's a world where there's a 

2490
01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:08,440
guy at the one. 
Hole with three quarterbacks and

2491
01:58:08,440 --> 01:58:12,760
I'm having a bad night, so I 
appreciate you guys, not Keith 

2492
01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:15,960
Mitchell anyway. 
Who had six of the top ten? 

2493
01:58:15,960 --> 01:58:18,480
No, no. 
Didn't we take Drake May before?

2494
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:20,480
We gave him a chance to take 3 
quarterbacks. 

2495
01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:21,120
We didn't. 
We did. 

2496
01:58:21,120 --> 01:58:22,160
No, I'm saying there's a 
there's. 

2497
01:58:22,160 --> 01:58:24,720
Another world if we don't do 
that, where he just takes Drake 

2498
01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:27,040
May and I'm thinking about that 
for a while. 

2499
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:29,120
So I loved that when I was like,
he's got. 

2500
01:58:29,120 --> 01:58:33,040
Two Q BS and you're like I'm 
still worried if. 

2501
01:58:34,200 --> 01:58:36,800
We don't get Drake May I'm. 
Going to have a bad time. 

2502
01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:38,960
Pat's very. 
Lucky that there was like. 

2503
01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:41,800
Literally no. 
There was no one compelling. 

2504
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:43,640
Me to click. 
Over Drake may Well that's 

2505
01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:45,920
that's partly why I would have. 
Had a bad night is because like 

2506
01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:48,520
I'm like what did we gain like 
we we. 

2507
01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:50,640
End up taking. 
A guy that would have been there

2508
01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:54,640
for sure. 
Couple things here. 

2509
01:58:54,640 --> 01:58:56,280
Appreciate these. 
Comments in the chat. 

2510
01:58:56,280 --> 01:58:58,600
Michelle is a trio. 
Great heaven. 

2511
01:58:58,680 --> 01:59:00,560
Gretch back. 
Agreed. 

2512
01:59:00,840 --> 01:59:03,480
We're going to get Gretch back 
on Tuesday as well to draft with

2513
01:59:03,480 --> 01:59:04,920
Leonie. 
That's always one of the 

2514
01:59:04,920 --> 01:59:08,800
highlights of the year. 
Leonie gets us off our bullshit.

2515
01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:13,560
Alpha plays only good stuff 
there and Samuel love that This 

2516
01:59:13,560 --> 01:59:15,040
is on my b-day. 
Bang Bang. 

2517
01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:18,520
Happy birthday Samuel here 
today. 

2518
01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:21,480
Gretch, you mentioned you got 
main events firing over there 

2519
01:59:21,480 --> 01:59:25,200
with Sean on stealing bananas. 
Obviously stealing signals posts

2520
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:28,520
around the clock these days in 
the lead up to the season. 

2521
01:59:28,520 --> 01:59:31,200
Got to get subscribed there. 
What else should people keep an 

2522
01:59:31,200 --> 01:59:34,080
eye out for? 
Yeah, the signal stuff. 

2523
01:59:34,840 --> 01:59:37,400
It was tears week. 
I wrote up all the different 

2524
01:59:40,160 --> 01:59:41,520
positional. 
Strategies. 

2525
01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:46,560
Basically and how to approach 
the different tiers within those

2526
01:59:46,560 --> 01:59:48,840
positions. 
I haven't published the running 

2527
01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:51,400
back one yet. 
I'm going to publish it tonight.

2528
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:53,800
All the other three are already 
out there. 

2529
01:59:53,800 --> 02:00:00,080
There's full, you know, rankings
and a bunch of strategy stuff at

2530
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:02,080
the newsletter. 
And then, yeah, stealing pianos 

2531
02:00:02,080 --> 02:00:04,920
with Seagull, bunch of drafts, 
that kind of stuff going on. 

2532
02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:07,520
That's it. 
I mean, that's all I'm really 

2533
02:00:07,520 --> 02:00:09,240
doing these days. 
I'm missing you guys. 

2534
02:00:09,240 --> 02:00:11,040
That's the other. 
That's what I do with the rest 

2535
02:00:11,040 --> 02:00:12,360
of my time. 
It's just fun, man. 

2536
02:00:12,520 --> 02:00:15,760
I sit like that Wolverine meme, 
you know? 

2537
02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:17,920
Picture of the three. 
Of us. 

2538
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:21,120
I just. 
I just stare at it. 

2539
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:23,640
I'm excited. 
So what's going to happen is. 

2540
02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:25,960
This team's going to win the 
main event and then I'm going to

2541
02:00:25,960 --> 02:00:29,160
take my portion and buy my 
family a new dad and then come 

2542
02:00:29,160 --> 02:00:34,240
back to shit I. 
Buy your family a dad. 

2543
02:00:35,120 --> 02:00:37,800
Oh my God that is. 
That sounds like some disgusting

2544
02:00:37,920 --> 02:00:42,360
Black Mirror episode. 
Guy buys his family a. 

2545
02:00:42,400 --> 02:00:49,040
New dad. 
So he can draft more Pat, 

2546
02:00:49,480 --> 02:00:52,000
Anything else you'd like to 
mention before we log off for 

2547
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:54,680
the weekend? 
Matt Irby's gonna have an 

2548
02:00:54,680 --> 02:00:56,440
article. 
Out on the site pretty soon. 

2549
02:00:56,440 --> 02:00:58,920
Recommend checking that out. 
I've had a free article out this

2550
02:00:58,920 --> 02:01:04,640
morning that looked at 
DraftKings discounts with the 

2551
02:01:04,640 --> 02:01:07,200
queue tag. 
Now Travis Hunter goes in like 

2552
02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:09,480
the late 6th round now because 
he's got AQ tag on because of an

2553
02:01:09,480 --> 02:01:12,680
upper body injury that people 
are like, see, this proves you 

2554
02:01:12,680 --> 02:01:16,480
can't play two ways in the NFL. 
It's like this is there's never 

2555
02:01:16,480 --> 02:01:17,840
been more free money in the 
whole world. 

2556
02:01:18,160 --> 02:01:22,960
So so he's he's the cover boy, 
but there's a few other guys and

2557
02:01:24,160 --> 02:01:26,880
legendary running back article. 
I'm I'm in the lab on that. 

2558
02:01:26,880 --> 02:01:29,040
I'm having a ton of fun. 
I've really I'm excited for 

2559
02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:32,000
people to check that out. 
I I have a Mike McDaniel quote 

2560
02:01:32,040 --> 02:01:34,960
in there. 
I ran it by coach Big index. 

2561
02:01:35,600 --> 02:01:37,920
He told me I fucking nailed it. 
So there's a there's some good. 

2562
02:01:40,120 --> 02:01:43,520
Is it the one where he says we? 
Are all inching toward death. 

2563
02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:45,640
No, no, it's, it's in the 
future. 

2564
02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:49,640
And it's after after a nice play
by Devana Chan. 

2565
02:01:49,640 --> 02:01:51,640
And he tells reporters after the
game something. 

2566
02:01:51,640 --> 02:01:53,600
So we need to make sure that was
all dialed in. 

2567
02:01:53,600 --> 02:01:56,600
But we're we're yeah. 
That that Oracle. 

2568
02:01:56,600 --> 02:01:58,760
I'm I'm going to get it out 
hopefully this weekend, maybe 

2569
02:01:58,760 --> 02:02:00,640
Monday. 
But yeah, as soon as it's done. 

2570
02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:02,840
But that's, that's the thing I'm
putting all my time into right 

2571
02:02:02,840 --> 02:02:04,360
now. 
Beautiful. 

2572
02:02:04,360 --> 02:02:06,520
I love before Pete before. 
You run your stuff down. 

2573
02:02:06,520 --> 02:02:08,480
I love. 
This comedy just wrote Week 14's

2574
02:02:08,480 --> 02:02:10,960
The League playoff final, and I 
don't think there was like a 

2575
02:02:10,960 --> 02:02:13,200
conversation about that. 
I'm trying to figure out why he 

2576
02:02:13,200 --> 02:02:14,800
was saying that one might have. 
I was like, maybe. 

2577
02:02:15,040 --> 02:02:17,520
Oh, we have McMillan. 
No, both of our quarterbacks 

2578
02:02:17,520 --> 02:02:20,720
have Week 14 buys. 
So we do hold Bryce Yoga Direct 

2579
02:02:20,720 --> 02:02:22,040
Bay all year. 
We're gonna need to pick up a 

2580
02:02:22,040 --> 02:02:24,040
third. 
This is what I say whenever. 

2581
02:02:24,040 --> 02:02:27,680
Anyone brings up week 14, we are
gonna have a buy and actually 

2582
02:02:27,680 --> 02:02:29,120
no, we will need them in week 
14. 

2583
02:02:29,120 --> 02:02:31,880
You're gonna need to be 13. 
Let me see. 

2584
02:02:31,880 --> 02:02:36,000
What's my in zone here? 
The team is so good that we have

2585
02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:38,480
a buy that we can win without a 
quarterback in Week 14. 

2586
02:02:40,120 --> 02:02:41,600
This is the beauty about not 
having. 

2587
02:02:41,600 --> 02:02:42,560
High. 
Investment, though, in 

2588
02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:48,120
quarterbacks, easy come easy go 
on the waivers there, all right,

2589
02:02:48,280 --> 02:02:53,000
Yeah, For me, I'm doing a stream
on Sunday night that's going to 

2590
02:02:53,000 --> 02:02:55,120
be available to everyone. 
It's after dark going to do a 

2591
02:02:55,120 --> 02:02:57,520
guillotine league. 
So the three of us did a 

2592
02:02:57,520 --> 02:03:01,760
guillotine league down in Miami 
for a ship chasing meet up. 

2593
02:03:01,760 --> 02:03:04,600
Had a ton of fun with that. 
Going to host another one of 

2594
02:03:04,600 --> 02:03:10,000
those over on my channel. 
And like I said, back for a high

2595
02:03:10,000 --> 02:03:12,760
stakes draft on Tuesday. 
The ADP chasing crew will be 

2596
02:03:12,760 --> 02:03:14,640
back for a normal episode 
Tuesday morning. 

2597
02:03:14,640 --> 02:03:18,760
So you get a double header on 
Tuesday, ADP chasing high stakes

2598
02:03:18,760 --> 02:03:23,000
draft in the evening and then 
our Thursday night finale and 

2599
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:27,160
then also getting in the works. 
We'll announce, I think the 

2600
02:03:27,160 --> 02:03:29,120
plan, my guy. 
Zach's going to make a little 

2601
02:03:29,120 --> 02:03:32,440
video for us, but we'll announce
next Thursday our plans for the 

2602
02:03:32,440 --> 02:03:35,240
ship cast in season. 
So the ship cast is coming back.

2603
02:03:35,240 --> 02:03:38,200
Slight little twist. 
We'll have that announced on the

2604
02:03:38,200 --> 02:03:40,360
crack Rock episode. 
I think that's it for 

2605
02:03:40,360 --> 02:03:41,600
housekeeping. 
If you guys want to become 

2606
02:03:41,600 --> 02:03:44,080
YouTube members, you can join us
in the ship chasing discord 

2607
02:03:44,080 --> 02:03:45,920
that's in the Deposit Kingdom 
discord. 

2608
02:03:45,920 --> 02:03:48,040
Once you're a YouTube member, 
there's a link hop in the 

2609
02:03:48,040 --> 02:03:50,640
Deposit Kingdom discord, sync 
your YouTube with your discord 

2610
02:03:50,640 --> 02:03:53,920
account and you will unlock that
ship chasing channel where there

2611
02:03:53,920 --> 02:03:57,720
is hardcore fantasy football 
talk around the clock. 

2612
02:03:57,880 --> 02:03:59,840
Appreciate you guys. 
Thank you to Ben Gratch. 

2613
02:03:59,840 --> 02:04:03,640
Go subscribe to ceiling signals.
Go subscribe to Stealing Bananas

2614
02:04:03,640 --> 02:04:06,520
and we'll see you guys on 
Tuesday for ADP chasing and 

2615
02:04:06,520 --> 02:04:07,720
another draft peace.
