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Let's start today with the 
trivia question. 

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What do you were shot? 
Any? 

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Damien Harris. 
And Nicole Hartman. 

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Alden. 
Common They will all make less 

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guaranteed money in 2023. 
And the guy right here in my 

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t-shirt who most recently was 
employed writing blurbs, Ian, 

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Thomas and Rex Burkhead. 
Follow the money. 

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This is a tiki chasing Pat, 
fryer, homos. 

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Anita hand handjob exercise 
Jamar. 

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Just to be clear. 
I didn't know that opening was 

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good was coming. 
It wasn't news to me, I'm just 

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embrace it. 
Crane, like, we need like a 

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little bit of a villain Arc for 
you, like at least one time this

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summer. 
When you guys are drafting teams

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and you and Pete are on the 
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least one time, you got to whip 
it out and be like, why don't we

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let the guy who won two million 
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Make the pick, you know, because
there's going to be, there's 

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going to be a spot where you 
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Disagreeing and you gotta do it 
to him at least once there was a

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comment on ship chasing on 
Wednesday. 

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Someone said, I don't know what 
it is but Pat seems smarter this

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year. 
I like the other idea. 

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Someone threw out of you just 
doing the total here. 

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Turn heel, turn of just 
advocating for flatter payout 

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structures and all tournaments 
this year. 

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But ideas, well I'm strongly 
considered that because I do 

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actually think but look, I don't
want to I don't want to have the

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from now on now on it should be 
fine from now on. 

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Yes. 
Well yeah. 

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Anyways it was as fun catching 
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Obviously Hayden was hidden, 
was, they're replacing me. 

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You guys had some really 
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free agency stuff was 
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Getting his takes but yeah, I 
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again this week, still a lot of 
free agency movement, still some

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Yeah, before we get to the free 
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Today's Show with talking about 
Bijan Robinson, I know Pat 

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recently wrote an article on 
legendary upside obviously check

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that out for those. 
You that subscribe And subscribe

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if you'd already. 
But I also did a deep dive into 

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looking at be Jean's, potential 
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might have on his ADP. 
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sort of how I looked at it first
and then want to get your guys 

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take. 
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do it, And I'm adding this to 
the stream here is I wanted to 

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consider all this potential 
Landing spots and to do that, I 

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wanted to filter out the teams 
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And I came up with essentially 
six criteria, that makes it seem

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unlikely to take Bijan. 
I'm not arguing that like, 

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anyone, any team on this list 
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They would take the Jean. 
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chance, but I think it was sort 
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systematic way to filter out 
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So, those criteria that would 
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Bijan would be Not having a 
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I think that's kind of obvious. 
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go around one, a draft pick in 
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five. 
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today's NFL, a team takes Bijan 
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Then a couple related to current
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in their current RV rooms. 
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million guaranteed to a free 
agent that they gave out in 2023

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or teams that would have more 
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they Cut their current running 
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of other teams, you know, like 
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album Camaro on the Saints 
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And then the final two criteria 
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past couple of years. 
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back in round 1 of the past two 
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50 pick on a running back last 
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So then again, filters out teams
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took etn and Nagi in the first 
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Jets and the Seahawks you took 
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I don't think you can filter out
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want, I officially want that. 
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record. 
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can say the Seahawks are 
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could be a trade back team given
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fact that they just paid Gino. 
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back team. 
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on the record there was I think 
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you can like nitpick some of 
these He's like the Dallas. 

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But like I think my point is 
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nitpicking are also the terrible
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Like I would nitpick the Titans 
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made my just go, we love running
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Let's find a better guy to do it
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might look terrible. 
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but then you're like, no, I kind
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argument that we were having via
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does come down. 
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saying like, Bijan Gober, like 
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going to want to give him the 
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he's so good. 
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he's so good that we're like, we
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Like, just take him. 
Get him on a team and he's gonna

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just spit out fantasy points. 
Bijan is the one who knocks. 

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That's that's essentially, are 
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Yes, yes. 
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really disagree with that. 
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like the market perception to 
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Is a maybe I think worse than 
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Imagine. 
Sure, sure. 

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Okay, the say it's, they could 
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though I think they would have 
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they got Camaro, they get rid of
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He's not playing very much this 
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suspended. 
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figure that out later, I guess 
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Chimera. 
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putting exciting things to do 
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It would be an insane way. 
A like kind of impressive way to

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allocate Capital to the 
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crazy with the cap. 
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Anyways, like, I think I think 
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my argument and then I want to 
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prospect stuff from you. 
Pat and Davis as well is like I 

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think like you may have a map 
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Maybe you want to add in like 
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with like the majority of these 
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Spots being perceived as like - 
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ATP right now. 
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Like the idea there's some clean
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Good offense, landing spot for 
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I'm not worried about his 
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all, but I think the market will
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based on like the most likely 
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So that's my point how you want 
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would argue that. 
That doesn't matter like he has 

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a floor, I would argue maybe 
just wait post draft to get more

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exposure but yeah. 
Anyways Pat what do you think 

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about Bichons to prospect? 
Like why are you sort of on the 

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side of this debate? 
Yeah, I actually included your, 

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your Tweet in my article that I 
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three running backs, Bijan 
obviously number one, and I get 

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your point. 
I actually agree with your point

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that like, in most outcomes. 
Probably viewing it is like not 

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a great landing spot and maybe 
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of his ATP. 
I have a different conclusion 

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though which is I think he's, he
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three turn area. 
Because look, I mean, if you 

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draft him at pick 14, and he 
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worth to you, like I really more
like fourth pick. 19, that's not

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a huge loss. 
On the other hand, if he goes to

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the Vikings and they cut, Dalvin
cook, Look, he's like the 106 or

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higher, right? 
If he goes to the maybe even 

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eats or the Bangles. 
Yeah, we're talking about like 

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huge huge price increase. 
And if you think about in terms 

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of like auction dollars, you 
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until like potential like 50 
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You know, if you goes to one of 
these great spots from like, you

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know, maybe 30 or something. 
It's like, oh no. 

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Like he dropped from 30 to 25. 
Not a big deal, but you have 

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this huge upside scenario 
outcome where you from the early

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2nd round. 
Got a guy who's now like a top 

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So I think you want to mix them 
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really high. 
Even if like the ATP floor is 

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like a little lower than I'm 
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that? 
I think he's such a strong 

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prospect. 
That if the market had him. 

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It's like a, two three, turn 
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Patriots as I go, God is again 
split time with them or Andre my

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take would be. 
No, he's not. 

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He's going to have this 
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the fantasy playoffs were all 
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got a ton of upside. 
I'd be, I'd be prioritizing him 

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in that range. 
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that, I guess I'm gonna be 
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If he's really any further down 
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I thought experiment, Joe Mixon,
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Bijan Robinson, either with pick
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to get him soapy Ryan's Gone, 
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Gone. 
What is the highest? 

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His August 1st Underdog. 
ATP could be. 

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What is what is what would be 
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ATP. 
Max out at in a backfield by 

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himself and Cincinnati. 
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him out of McCaffrey. 
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Jefferson would still go ahead 
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So I think I think I agree with 
Pat because Chargers that that 

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Claire gets traded and be Jean's
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I think you're capturing the 
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weird because Hayden schooled us
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kind of hard for them to get rid
of David Cooks money and they 

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just they they What do they tag 
Madison? 

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Or they gave him an extension? 
That's like actually make 

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attention. 
Yeah, it's like kind of more 

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money than you would expect. 
Alexander Madison to be getting,

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but, you know, whatever the 
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going to happen now because they
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smelt the second round pick on 
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Like, I think the bills are 
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there, the cheese could do 
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of the, the Chiefs have have 
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I did. 
I looked this up yesterday. 

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The Chiefs have Four players on 
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one of them is their Long 
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Guys, Five, Guys on the whole 
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It's like, they're they have the
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I don't think they would take 
Bijan but I also didn't think 

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they were going to take Clyde, 
you know? 

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Make them more or less likely to
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they'll do it. 
It obviously was the disaster. 

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Well so the thing would be is 
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you're like okay you got 34. 
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Sky who stinks? 
You got mbsu stinks, you let 

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Hardman go. 
We're like What It's you're 

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really going to make Pat. 
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playing with his hand tied 
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II. 
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odds for the Chiefs to take 
Bijan. 

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I think the Reality odds are 
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I'm not saying they'll do it. 
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sitting on the clock at 31 and 
it's like Zay flowers is gone. 

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So he's looking at Josh Downs 
Arby, Jean Robinson, I could 

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pretty easily see them in that 
room talking themselves and 

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Bijan over the wide receivers 
said, let's let's get ready to 

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draft Jalen Hyatt. 
Way ahead of where we want to be

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right. 
Yes, exactly. 

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Yeah. 
I guess, yeah. 

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Just Again, Play devil's 
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If you look at grinding them 
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draft position is like 16 
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boards have them in like top 10,
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So, I would say this charges may
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think like the Bangles Chiefs 
Vikings like the clean herb 

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better Landing spots are also I 
don't think he's getting there. 

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Yeah my my prognostication is I 
think if I had to put money on 

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it and maybe I will maybe I'll 
go look at this. 

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While we're doing the show I 
would say the Falcons in the 

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commanders are the two teams 
that feel most likely to not 

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trade out not get fancy just 
beyond the clock and just simply

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select him. 
Yeah I would put the Bucks. 

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In there, too. 
Because like, even though it's a

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duck, I think it's a dumb 
football move like they should 

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be rebuilding, not taking assets
at running back. 

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I think like their offseason 
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they're not going for the 
rebuild. 

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Like they're re-signing, older 
account. 

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Is in signal that. 
No, dude. 

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They cut so many guys. 
They've cut like eight starters 

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because he's a Quaker may feel. 
That seems about as clear 

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semester and I think Lee, I 
think leave us, I think leave us

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is probably who I would say is 
most likely for them there. 

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If Again, assuming because leave
us is going to do his Pro Day 

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actually, he's gonna start 
throwing in about 45 minutes and

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we'll see, we'll see how that 
goes. 

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Like, I actually think leave his
could make himself some money 

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with a pro day. 
The point on the boxes of sort 

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of around their defensive 
signings, like they re side 

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Levante David re-signed Jamel, 
Dean to a huge contract. 

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Like they're bringing back, 
these veteran defensive players,

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so that was my point there. 
But I see what you guys are 

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saying. 
Like, I don't know the boxes 

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strike me with You know, that 
organization as a team that 

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would be in the mix for Bijan 
here. 

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But, you know, so those those 
three are interesting though 

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because like to me, if he goes 
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Commander's. 
He goes to the box, I think like

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immediately he has those back 
fields and I like Richard white 

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and I like Tyler algier. 
I'm not a big Brian Robinson 

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guy. 
You love, Tyler algier? 

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I do, I think he's good, guess 
what? 

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He's backing up, be John 
Robinson, it's not He's not in 

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the mix. 
Well, I could always move it 

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back to his natural position. 
It's not even a wasted traffic, 

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they can move. 
They, you know, he could be, he 

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could be a situation a 
linebacker completely clearly 

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off all linebacker. 
That's a real value, pick there 

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for them. 
But yeah, I mean, I think he's 

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probably going around pick 1314 
in those spots because he's 

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gonna get projected a ton of 
touches in those backfields I 

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think. 
Yeah, that's fair. 

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I don't know, I still think like
those offenses, all those 

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offenses you mentioned are like 
in a project set like maybe 

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there's some upside with the 
Falcons like they have some pass

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catchers. 
Maybe you could argue that with 

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the Commander's that Howell gets
better box. 

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There's definitely some upside 
with the Falcons. 

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We've seen them be a productive,
rushing offense. 

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Even with the offense being 
terrible, we know they're going 

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to run the ball, no matter what.
Like the fact that they're bad, 

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almost doesn't matter because 
they'll just run until the 

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games. 
Oh yeah. 

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Yeah. 
Now it's fair and maybe with 

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Ritter we see a little bit more 
pass-catching value for the 

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running backs first, Mariota. 
I know pass it down. 

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Once they put Ritter instead of 
Mariota jump, I like seven per 

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game so that could help the 
pass-catching there for the 

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running back. 
So yeah, I see that. 

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Yeah, I guess to put a bow on 
this discussion. 

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I think like I think Pat's 
argument is totally reasonable. 

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I understand like if you still 
think he is a smash. 

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Ash the two. 
Three turn at the market 

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eventually values. 
Him there, like you're not 

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really losing that much. 
Just drafting them. 

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Now I think just I'll take like 
a slightly more conservative 

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approach. 
I've drafted plenty of Bijan so 

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far. 
I think at this point I'm just 

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gonna wait post draft and see, 
where's value lands, but he 

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doesn't like, I'm not arguing 
like, oh, he's gonna drop the 

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fifth to be landed on these 
teams now, like, I really with 

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you there, I will say, like, if 
he goes to the Bears or the 

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Ravens, I don't love that. 
No, both both of those spots, 

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feel bad, quite quite bad. 
Yeah, I don't think, also, I 

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don't think the Chargers with 
them. 

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Keeping Eckler is out of the 
question, like, hecklers cap. 

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It is pretty pretty small this 
year and he's on the last year 

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of his deal. 
I could see them looking towards

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the future and I know even 
Eckler himself has said like I 

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want them to bring in running 
back to take you know touches 

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between the 20s from me. 
So like I don't think he would 

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you know refused to play or 
something. 

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But I think that would be Be 
okay, like because then you 

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start to get more excited about 
the Chargers offense. 

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Like, I don't think it's price 
would go up, but I don't think 

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you're not getting them at the 
301, if he's on the Chargers. 

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Yeah, maybe I don't know tough 
to say. 

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Anyways, let's jump in into the 
risers for this week. 

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That was a good discussion on 
Bijan. 

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So again the largest ATP risers 
from the past week. 

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Again, we see a lot of the free 
agency impact at running back 

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really showing its face here, 
the largest risers. 

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Once again, we have Rashad Penny
being the largest Riser, this 

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week up, twenty seven spots, 
other guys in the list day of 

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Montgomery miles Sanders, 
Pollard, Damien Harris, James 

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Robinson, Jeff Wilson, and then 
a couple other receivers here. 

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We have Brandon Cooks, and Adam 
thielen, and then finally, semaj

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perine. 
So, let's start, let's start 

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with Penny, Davis curious, how 
far, how much farther up the 

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draft boards? 
You're chasing Penny, he's 

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jumped like almost a hundred. 
Fish pics from his original 

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price. 
Now when do you start to get 

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hesitant on on Penny probably 
Only 10 more pics. 

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This this feels this kind of 
feels this kind of feels like 

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the right range for him. 
It also feels like a good 

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asymmetric bet to be making in 
these these weird tournaments 

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where I mean, it's like, who 
knows if you're going to have 

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the stacks, right? 
Who knows that you're not going 

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to, you know, week 17 matchups 
like just feels because it it 

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feels like no chance. 
Penny is exactly the running 

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back 28. 
You know. 

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It doesn't it doesn't it. 
Feel like one of those things 

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where it's either Rashad penny 
is the The scratch behind Tracer

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remember every week of the 
Season, or he's Mi Sandra last 

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year. 
God, please just, no be true. 

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Trey sermon, I believe, makes 
more didn't want to be charged 

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Penny laughs. 
I believe if, if we're doing the

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for doing the, you know who 
makes more money than crane, I 

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believe sermon is on a larger 
contract than Penny because he 

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was a second round pick and 
Penny is a veteran minimum. 

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Let me, let me give some news. 
The more guaranteed money than 

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Richard Penny and free agency 
this year. 

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Dr. Foreman Boston, Scott 
Justice Hill. 

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Travis Homer, like 40 years old,
who did Justice. 

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He'll sign with the Ravens. 
He's back on. 

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I just resigned. 
Okay, your four million, got 

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1.25 million guaranteed. 
I don't know why. 

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That's like, that's like how 
that's like how the Patriots 

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just gave eight million dollars 
to a Long Snapper. 

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It's all about, it's all about 
like, special teams and stuff 

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has got to be Yeah, but I don't 
know. 

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Pat, what do you think? 
Like, obviously the I guess the 

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question is kind of like when 
does the downside matter? 

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I think I'd pick 111 like I 
don't care that much if he's has

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zero it's not gonna hurt me that
much unless I had like 100 

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percent exposure but at some 
point like the the floor has to 

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matter, right? 
Yeah, I think but I don't think 

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we're there yet and I've still 
been taking him, you get to that

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range like, you know, and the 
ninth or tenth or whatever. 

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I think he's pretty good pic. 
So I guess the thing with the 

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floor is like what? 
He's so good on early Downs that

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it's hard for me to feel like 
it's going to be Ronald Jones 

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last year where he's just a 
healthy, scratch all season. 

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I guess that's possible. 
The contract would point to that

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as a possibility. 
But I'm thinking more like, you 

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know, this guy struggle with 
injuries his entire career 

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that's also got up have factored
into why he didn't. 

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Have a team really commit 
anything to him. 

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His weekly ceiling is really, 
really high. 

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And so like, I think look, if 
you get a zero for most of the 

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year and then you get a Rashad 
Penny healthy three-game, 

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stretch in the fantasy, playoffs
like that, pays for itself and 

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then some in the ninth or tenth,
I don't think he's start really 

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like, hurting your Advanced 
rates until he moves up by like 

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another couple rounds. 
Yeah, I think I'm done I've 

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nothing else to add. 
You could even do them is like a

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handcuff honestly at this price.
Like let's say they do take 

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Bijan like Penny could still be 
a high upside handcuffed to be 

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Jean at that price. 
Yeah, it's a pricey handcuffed 

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but it's not like a crazy price 
to pay just given how good the 

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offense is. 
So I agree. 

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Yeah and then frankly the other 
like I guess you could compare 

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them to other positions like the
other running backs in this 

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range don't have super high 
floors. 

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Either really the wide receivers
are almost like entirely wiped 

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out at this point. 
So the opportunity cost is still

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at a point where I'm not too too
concerned I think like I'm gonna

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I've been still clicking him 
like not as aggressively as it 

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was when he was a pic 180 but 
I've been so clicking. 

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I'm at around this price I think
you're like I'd have to start 

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thinking harder about it at like
pick like 85 90, but I think up 

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until that point I'm still like 
fine with it. 

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Yeah. 
Okay, another guy 

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second-biggest, Riser here David
Montgomery, huge week for 

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deamonte nation. 
He's up, 20 spots, 19% increase 

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in a teepee. 
How I've heard a lot of like the

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Swift verse verse Montgomery 
stuff the past couple weeks, Pat

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do you have any takes on 
Montgomery and you're sort of 

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overall approach to how you're 
drafting the Detroit backfield? 

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I think Swift has fallen to like
the XT is if I remember that 

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right? 
I can double-check that. 

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Yeah, we had. 
I think it was. 

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Yeah, ship chasing. 
And this was because, you know, 

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no one was drafting any running 
backs as usual in that draft. 

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And Swift felt to the seventh 
round. 

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And at that price, I'm very in, 
I think it's a great bet but I 

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don't love him in the sixth. 
I just feel like, you know, 

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they've told us about, every way
they possibly can, that they're 

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not that into him. 
And he's probably going to be, 

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you know, Of a rotational guy. 
They've also shown us last year 

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that they'll mix in Justin 
Jackson. 

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They'll they would probably play
Craig Reynolds. 

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A fair amount or whatever, it 
doesn't really matter who the 

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guy is. 
I don't think Swift really has a

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path to like in any particular 
game, even a Workhorse role. 

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So he's definitely he's an 
efficiency bat. 

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He's like, you know, he scores 
two touchdowns he, you know, he 

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he takes a reception to the 
house like he's very live to do 

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that stuff but I think he want 
to keep the prices cheapest. 

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As possible Montgomery at pick 
89. 

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Now, I mean, That's your, you're
literally, you're literally 

447
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,500
paying for a 14 touchdowns 
season, like does it sort of 

448
00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:22,200
feel that way? 
Yeah, I still want. 

449
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,600
I want. 
So he's in the eighth and Swift 

450
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,700
like if Swift's in the seventh 
and he's in the eighth, I'm 

451
00:24:26,700 --> 00:24:29,700
definitely taking. 
Okay, let's thought experiment. 

452
00:24:29,700 --> 00:24:33,100
Sam DeAndre Swift shows up to 
Camp. 

453
00:24:33,100 --> 00:24:35,100
Gets hurt again. 
Dan Campbell's? 

454
00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:39,000
Like dude enough of cutting your
enough like enough of this dude 

455
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,700
I do. 
I did an anti Swift tweet 

456
00:24:41,700 --> 00:24:43,800
earlier today so I got some Some
more data. 

457
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,900
If we want to go there, what, 
what, what is David Montgomery 

458
00:24:46,900 --> 00:24:49,300
in this offense, on this team 
with this coaching staff? 

459
00:24:49,300 --> 00:24:51,600
What is like the best season? 
He could have? 

460
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:56,700
What does it look like? 
I think it could be like a Joe 

461
00:24:56,700 --> 00:25:00,800
mix in season from two years ago
or something like that. 

462
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,500
Like, low end, our be wanting 
all of you thought, amazing. 

463
00:25:03,500 --> 00:25:06,200
You think if you think that's 
the range then this is a great 

464
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,000
price. 
I think the range is that he's 

465
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,700
Devin Singletary from two years 
ago when the bills gave him 

466
00:25:12,700 --> 00:25:19,100
everything Okay, let me so I 
looked into this, like, I, I was

467
00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:22,800
totally on, like, on the side of
Swift response summary. 

468
00:25:22,900 --> 00:25:25,200
You know, the Swift is a way 
better talent. 

469
00:25:25,300 --> 00:25:27,000
I want to be on the side of 
Swift. 

470
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,800
So I looked into their rushing 
and receiving grades from PFF 

471
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,300
over the past three years and a 
few. 

472
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:39,200
So if you adjust them for like 
numbers of Russia's and routes, 

473
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:44,000
meaning like in the Years, where
Swift got More rushes. 

474
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,900
You would like wait that grade 
more than the year where you got

475
00:25:46,900 --> 00:25:48,700
injured and only had 70 
Russia's. 

476
00:25:48,900 --> 00:25:51,400
So you take the weighted average
of the Russian receiving grades 

477
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,300
over the last three years. 
Montgomery's Rush grade is 73, 

478
00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:00,000
Swift's is 70 Montgomery's 
receiving grid is 66 Swift's is 

479
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,000
64. 
So like I don't know and like I 

480
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,400
think we've also seen and how 
coaches view these guys that 

481
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,200
coaches have been willing to 
give Montgomery much larger 

482
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,000
workloads, and they've been 
willing to give Swift and they 

483
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:18,500
just Montgomery a ton of money 
for a free, Asian running back. 

484
00:26:18,700 --> 00:26:20,900
I think we also have to think 
about Montgomery, you get a 

485
00:26:20,908 --> 00:26:25,100
six-game, stretch 10, 20 20. 
This is with Mitch to biscuit 

486
00:26:25,100 --> 00:26:27,800
quarterback. 
Whereas half PPR game, logs, not

487
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:33,600
full, PPR half epr game logs, 23
points, 25 points, 23 points, 29

488
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:38,600
Points, 19 points 24 points. 
So average 24 half, PPR points 

489
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,100
over a six-game, stretch with 
Mitch bilsky, I don't know. 

490
00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:43,300
I'd like in that. 
Ann. 

491
00:26:43,300 --> 00:26:45,400
Are you describe Davis where 
Swift is gone? 

492
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,000
You remember when that actually 
happened, though? 

493
00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:49,500
They just like it was going to 
take off this teams. 

494
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,800
Like he was like a weekly play 
in DFS because he was like, 

495
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,800
getting just like the softest, 
rushing matchups, but I don't 

496
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:58,700
know, but it's still a good 
sits. 

497
00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:01,700
Like this situation is better 
than the Chicago Bears. 

498
00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:05,400
True Biscay LED offense like I 
see your point there. 

499
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,400
It was like weak defenses but I 
don't know. 24, half people are 

500
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,100
points per game over a six-game 
stretch. 

501
00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:14,600
Like I think the upside is 
certainly there in the snare 

502
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,500
that Davis presented. 
We're like they're done with 

503
00:27:16,500 --> 00:27:19,500
swift. 
I think low-end rb1 season is 

504
00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:23,500
certainly apply for Montgomery. 
I would definitely push back on 

505
00:27:23,500 --> 00:27:25,900
the like David Montgomery is 
good narrative. 

506
00:27:26,700 --> 00:27:29,200
He was like in Russia as a 
respected / tempt. 

507
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:34,200
He was very bad last year. 
Only work, Melvin Gordon, 

508
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,600
Michael Carter, James Robinson, 
Leonard fournette, nausea, 

509
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,300
Harris, Zeke, Richard, white 
diamond, cook, and Antonio 

510
00:27:39,300 --> 00:27:42,300
Gibson, were the only running 
backs who were worse than him 

511
00:27:42,900 --> 00:27:44,700
last year. 
He hasn't been as efficient as a

512
00:27:44,708 --> 00:27:47,200
receiver in yards per hour on 
his Swift. 

513
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,900
He's like fine. 
It's a receiver. 

514
00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:51,300
I Swift was gone and Davis's 
analogy. 

515
00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:54,100
He probably would just like 
soaked up a bunch of dump offs 

516
00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:57,900
but he's not a playmate, he 
makes guys like Miss. 

517
00:27:57,900 --> 00:28:01,900
Wouldn't it just be like Justin 
Jackson playing on third? 

518
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,900
Bounce. 
Yeah, and I'm skeptical of the 

519
00:28:04,908 --> 00:28:07,700
grades with Montgomery in 
particular because he does like 

520
00:28:07,700 --> 00:28:11,600
make guys miss, but then he 
doesn't move forward. 

521
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:16,300
Afterwards wasn't just the thing
and then he just sits wasn't 

522
00:28:16,300 --> 00:28:18,400
that. 
The the thing with him coming 

523
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,000
out as a prospect like, wasn't 
the thing that people who liked 

524
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,400
him really latched onto was that
at Iowa State? 

525
00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:27,400
He he did, he was like either 
really good at breaking tackles 

526
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,000
or really good at causing. 
I don't remember which metric 

527
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,400
people are really good. 
Obviously the thing Yes, of 

528
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,800
course, Miss tacos for touch is 
people. 

529
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,200
I think he was and and pro 
football references, well, his 

530
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,600
like broken tackle stuff was 
really strong, just think anyone

531
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,600
can watch. 
I just think anyone who's 

532
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,200
watched him play can understand 
that. 

533
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,800
That it's totally like he just 
is a slow lumbering type like 

534
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,000
these. 
Not bad. 

535
00:28:50,300 --> 00:28:53,000
I think I think he's gonna fit 
in pretty well. 

536
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,700
Like I think he is, I think he's
better than Jamal Williams. 

537
00:28:56,700 --> 00:29:01,200
Like I think he's probably a 
better north-south and a little 

538
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,200
bit more capable. 
Well, like, the thing was Jamaal

539
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,800
Williams in all those games 
Swift missed. 

540
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,600
Yeah, I remember every week I 
would be doing the projections 

541
00:29:08,700 --> 00:29:11,600
and I'd be like, all right, well
Swift's out so I got to give to 

542
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,900
my Williams like an eight 
percent Target, share for Ali. 

543
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,500
And his targets here went down 
in the games that the Andres 

544
00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:21,900
with darkness, is like insane. 
It got down to below 4%. 

545
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,800
So I think Honestly to me, the 
Montgomery thing is totally more

546
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,100
about than just being over like 
Dan Campbell and his staff just 

547
00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:33,600
being over DeAndre Swift and it 
is about being like, I mean, 

548
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:38,500
it's a big contract for him and 
I just, I have trouble seeing a 

549
00:29:38,500 --> 00:29:41,500
real ceiling, he feels like to 
me, he feels like a good Advance

550
00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:46,700
rate tough to see me selling 
myself on, that's you needed and

551
00:29:46,700 --> 00:29:50,100
week 17. 
I guess like the only thing with

552
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:53,200
Montgomery like the guys in his 
range. 

553
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,200
Are all guys that can get 
completely wiped out by Bijan, 

554
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,500
Robinson, Khalil Herbert Rashad 
white James Cook. 

555
00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:05,100
Tyler algier like, you know, you
say a patch Echo. 

556
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:07,400
Those are all the guys going 
right around to them. 

557
00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:13,000
I think there's like very little
risk for like a huge running 

558
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,000
back in the draft going to 
Detroit. 

559
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:17,400
So I don't know. 
It's a little bit of like the 

560
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,500
safety relative. 
Those other guys he just got 

561
00:30:19,500 --> 00:30:22,300
paid like I feel a lot better 
about that than Rashad. 

562
00:30:22,300 --> 00:30:25,300
Why James Cook Tyler As year 
better owes its to. 

563
00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:28,100
Yeah, I think that's a good 
take. 

564
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,100
It is a deep running back class,
though. 

565
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,500
So like by the end of the year 
it is, do they take a rookie who

566
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:36,600
actually is someone? 
They end up trusting on early 

567
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,100
Downs like, you know, is this a 
three-way split by the end of 

568
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:42,700
the year? 
I could see that like Talent is 

569
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:45,200
protection. 
You know, if you believe that a 

570
00:30:45,208 --> 00:30:48,200
guy is good, then you're going 
to feel much better about his 

571
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,500
role. 
Lasting over the course of the 

572
00:30:49,508 --> 00:30:52,600
year. 
I think Montgomery being like, 

573
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,300
Oh, Okay at everything but not 
really that. 

574
00:30:55,300 --> 00:30:58,300
Great does put him at some risk.
I'll be, I agree with you. 

575
00:30:58,300 --> 00:31:01,500
It's not going to be Jean but 
someone else could come in and 

576
00:31:01,500 --> 00:31:04,000
start playing really well. 
And it could be like a Pacheco 

577
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,400
thing where his that guy's roll 
grows over the course of the 

578
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:11,500
year. 
Yeah, well yeah. 

579
00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:14,700
We'll see with with Montgomery 
verse Swift will be an 

580
00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:16,800
interesting debate. 
Like I kind of thought that at 

581
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,900
some point. 
They're there a TPS will like 

582
00:31:18,900 --> 00:31:21,000
flip. 
So then for me that gets even 

583
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,300
more interesting but we'll see 
if a trans all the way in that 

584
00:31:23,300 --> 00:31:25,400
direction. 
If they flip, I mean, I'm gonna 

585
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:30,100
have a lot of Swift. 
Yeah, I probably I probably 

586
00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:33,200
would too depending like sort of
where that converges. 

587
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,700
Okay. 
Another thing that the market 

588
00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:39,500
might let us have like tenth 
round Montgomery and then I then

589
00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:43,100
I would be in. 
But at this price it's a little 

590
00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:45,000
makes me a little queasy. 
I should probably makes him in 

591
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,900
though. 
Cool. 

592
00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:52,700
Yeah let's talk. 
Let's talk Tony Pollard. 

593
00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:57,900
We had been talking about him. 
I don't ever since like Pat 

594
00:31:57,900 --> 00:31:59,400
since you started looking at 
your house I think since I 

595
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,600
started looking at drafts, we've
been mentioning Pollard. 

596
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,100
It's just sort of a clear like 
weirdly mispriced player at 

597
00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:11,100
around pick 40. 
He has now jumped up to to pick 

598
00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:13,800
30. 
I guess, Davis. 

599
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,700
All put this you first. 
What do you what do you think 

600
00:32:16,708 --> 00:32:19,200
about? 
Increase in price and would you 

601
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,200
continue to chase that higher up
words? 

602
00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:25,000
I mean I think you just keep 
chasing Pollard until they give 

603
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,700
you a reason not to I mean 
obviously one I think you got 

604
00:32:27,700 --> 00:32:31,100
like a bazillion out. 
So I mean, one Pollard might 

605
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:33,600
just get there on efficiency. 
The way he got their own 

606
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,000
efficiency, the last two years. 
I mean he was the running back 

607
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,500
eight last year and what Zeke, 
missed two games last year? 

608
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,400
I think two or three games, but 
still, he just absolutely 

609
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,400
crushed. 
I think it's pretty unlikely. 

610
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,100
The Cowboys, take Bijan, I 
think. 

611
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,600
You know, them the very similar 
to the Texans signing Devin 

612
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,100
Singletary. 
The Dallas Cowboys signing 

613
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:57,500
Ronald Jones is probably more of
a signal of admission that they 

614
00:32:57,500 --> 00:33:01,000
like Pollard then that they are 
looking to replace him, but he 

615
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,000
agree with you. 
It's it! 

616
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,800
Look, it's sad. 
I mean, look, we love you, Raj. 

617
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,600
Oh, we love you. 
But I don't think you're 

618
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,000
threatening. 
If you, if you didn't, threaten 

619
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,600
seventh, run rookie, Isaiah 
Pacheco. 

620
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,800
I don't know if you're gonna 
threaten Tony Pollard he's 

621
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,300
playing on the franchise tag. 
I am excited for what? 

622
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,300
Tony Pollard has a hip pointer 
or something and I can damn, I 

623
00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:24,600
can jam Row, Joe and DFS, yeah. 
It's not bringing the bringing 

624
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,700
the Bijan conversation back, you
mentioned the Bears. 

625
00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:30,500
And Ravens is your like least 
favorite Landing slots for 

626
00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:32,600
Bijan. 
So let's say, the Cowboys, add 

627
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,100
nobody else, it's just Pollard, 
Malik Davis, Ronald Jones, and 

628
00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:39,500
Bijan goes to the Bears. 
Who would you rather have? 

629
00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:45,700
I think Pollard. 
You just not getting any 

630
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,300
receiving work from from Bijan 
there and it's like now he's 

631
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:55,900
it's really awesome to down guy 
but it's see like definitely a 

632
00:33:55,908 --> 00:33:59,200
better early down guy than Nick 
Chubb, you know? 

633
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,800
Like, uh, Yes, it's because he's
part of the play with Bijan is 

634
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,200
that he's like gonna get way 
more receiving work. 

635
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,900
The nickname is more slavery 
down, but is he going to get 

636
00:34:08,900 --> 00:34:10,500
more receiving worker bees on 
the Bears? 

637
00:34:10,900 --> 00:34:13,500
And so that that's where it 
starts feel like, okay? 

638
00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:15,800
Now, Bijan really is kind of, 
more of a third round value. 

639
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,400
Yeah, that's fair. 
I think when the same boat there

640
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,199
with, with pardon, like, 
obviously be Johnson. 

641
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:28,199
Amazing Prospect the best we've 
seen since sparkly zico ever. 

642
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:30,800
You want to, you know, put the 
put the Line in the Sand there 

643
00:34:31,300 --> 00:34:34,400
but it's still projecting a guy 
in the NFL. 

644
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:40,300
We know Pollard is amazing. 
So like I 95 percent confident 

645
00:34:40,300 --> 00:34:42,500
Bijan is going to be amazing, 
but if I know Paul is already 

646
00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:44,300
amazing is in a better 
situation. 

647
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:48,600
Yeah, I would I would probably 
take him over in that situation.

648
00:34:49,900 --> 00:34:54,100
Other guys, a couple like, more 
deeper guys on this list. 

649
00:34:55,300 --> 00:34:59,300
Damien Harris, James Robinson, 
Jeff Wilson and some a GP Ryan. 

650
00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:00,500
Let's stick with the running 
backs. 

651
00:35:00,500 --> 00:35:06,900
First, Pat, any of these risers 
that you're not buying or you're

652
00:35:06,900 --> 00:35:11,000
questioning why they're going 
upwards, James Robinson? 

653
00:35:11,900 --> 00:35:17,200
What's the what's that cos 1? 
I mean, I'd say I guess that he 

654
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,000
has a job is that why he's 
Rising? 

655
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,000
I think people are what I assume
a strong is one of our 

656
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,900
followers. 
So the market is just saying 

657
00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:27,500
James Robinson is the 
complement, not pierced wrong / 

658
00:35:27,500 --> 00:35:31,000
Kevin Harris. 
This James all the reason to buy

659
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,700
a strong, you know if we own if 
there wasn't if Kevin Harris, a 

660
00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:39,300
stronger one person. 
I would be very bullish on that 

661
00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:42,000
one running back. 
It's just tough because it's 

662
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,800
like you could be like 
directionally accurate and bed. 

663
00:35:45,900 --> 00:35:47,400
Jean-Pierre strong. 
And it turns out it's Kevin 

664
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,300
Harris. 
So that that part of it makes me

665
00:35:49,300 --> 00:35:51,300
makes it tough, but I'm not 
betting on James Robinson. 

666
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,400
Underdog should find a way to 
like securitize, like the are B4

667
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,900
and B5. 
Sorry, 15. 

668
00:35:56,900 --> 00:35:59,500
Yeah, party for Patriots are 
before I'm driving. 

669
00:35:59,500 --> 00:36:03,000
Yeah, yeah. 
I think the Robinson thing. 

670
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,600
I think like the the contract 
was a little bit of funny money 

671
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,300
that got people confuse like it 
came out as two years, eight 

672
00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:11,500
million, it's actually zero 
guaranteed money on that 

673
00:36:11,500 --> 00:36:15,300
contract. 
So it could be like let's get a 

674
00:36:15,300 --> 00:36:17,300
look on. 
Got him in Camp, like if he's 

675
00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:21,200
back to Old James Robinson, you 
know, maybe miraculously he does

676
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,900
sort of the cam Akers thing, 
where he recovers the, you know,

677
00:36:24,300 --> 00:36:27,600
pretty Achilles form. 
And then we get an okay deal on 

678
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,100
him. 
Otherwise we just caught him. 

679
00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:30,500
I think that's sort of the Pats 
play here. 

680
00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:34,200
So I'm not drafting him at all. 
I think he could easily be cut. 

681
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,400
Yeah, and if he's not content 
with that what's the, what's the

682
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,100
upside? 
Even if Stephenson went down, do

683
00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:44,100
we think it would be were 
coerced and Robinson because I 

684
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:47,300
do not That's what, that's what 
the drafters. 

685
00:36:47,300 --> 00:36:49,500
That's what the James Robinson 
drafters are saying though. 

686
00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:53,800
They're saying that that of the 
four guys who are on the roster 

687
00:36:53,900 --> 00:36:57,500
right now. 
He's the, he's the, I mean, he 

688
00:36:57,500 --> 00:36:59,700
why he weighs more than a 
strong? 

689
00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:02,800
I don't know about Kevin Ayers 
but he would be the most likely 

690
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,800
big-bodied goal line type guy. 
I think it's, I mean, people 

691
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,400
wouldn't even take her Madre 
because it's like, oh God 

692
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,700
Patriots running back. 
Can't draft him. 

693
00:37:12,700 --> 00:37:15,600
It's always a gross committee. 
Like and now we're my Audrey 

694
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,100
gets hurts and it's not a gross 
committee. 

695
00:37:17,100 --> 00:37:19,000
It's the James Robertson show, 
like, give me a break. 

696
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,400
Like we know, it would be a 
gross committee. 

697
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,800
If James Robinson, didn't show 
anything last year, coming off 

698
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,200
the torn Achilles. 
He'd have to yeah, way way 

699
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,700
better. 
I don't even know that. 

700
00:37:27,700 --> 00:37:32,600
Like, Jacksonville era, James 
Robinson would like have Bill 

701
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:37,100
Belichick's full trust in his 
first year, the guys look, the 

702
00:37:37,100 --> 00:37:40,400
guy generally likes committees. 
So yeah, this is what happens 

703
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,300
from Andre gets injured week 6 
has to miss a game. 

704
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,300
We find out two hours before 
kickoff. 

705
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,900
James Robinson has been healthy 
scratch for JJ. 

706
00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:54,300
Taylor off the practice squad. 
Yeah, yeah. 

707
00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:57,000
It's producers for minute Jay 
Jay. 

708
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:04,100
Taylor highlight reel that. 
So I'm not buying two of these. 

709
00:38:04,700 --> 00:38:07,800
Adam thielen will be on zero of 
my fantasy teams and I can't 

710
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,200
imagine, Jeff Wilson will be on 
any of my team's either Miami. 

711
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,300
I would make Miami like a - 500 
favorite to add a running back. 

712
00:38:15,500 --> 00:38:18,100
In the draft, maybe even, maybe 
even more than that. 

713
00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:21,300
Like maybe to write, maybe even 
multiple running backs. 

714
00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:24,800
Like they got Miami got so 
little production out of the 

715
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:29,100
running backs and and I feel 
like we all kind of became 

716
00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:32,900
enamored by the the Tyreke, 
Jalen waddle and then a river 

717
00:38:32,900 --> 00:38:35,100
crack wraps coming out and 
trencher field. 

718
00:38:35,100 --> 00:38:38,600
Just scored an 80 yard, 
touchdown and put like look. 

719
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,000
Mike McDaniel is a Shanahan. 
Acolyte this he wants to run the

720
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:42,800
ball. 
Dude. 

721
00:38:42,900 --> 00:38:45,300
You don't you like he let 
mikasuki go. 

722
00:38:45,700 --> 00:38:47,600
Look at all the tight ends they 
have on their roster. 

723
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:52,400
All their tight ends are like, 
you know, mono syllabic you know

724
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,700
Big Ten. 
Yes, yeah exactly like those 

725
00:38:55,700 --> 00:38:58,600
dudes are out there to fucking 
great the road. 

726
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,800
You know. 
That's why they are. 

727
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,300
That is why they're on the team 
so and Jeff look you know all 

728
00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:07,200
due respect Remo sir. 
All due respect to Jeff Wilson. 

729
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,600
These are like the most 
replacement level guys in the 

730
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:16,200
NFL. 
So I I think Yeah, just seems 

731
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,200
Seems bad, but perine. 
I'm chasing all the way up to 

732
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,100
you guys. 
See this, Sean, Payton stuff 

733
00:39:21,100 --> 00:39:23,000
this last week. 
He was like I went out and 

734
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,600
recruited some artist Pierre. 
I'd like I wanted semaj perine 

735
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,800
and he was saying like and then 
Pierre I'm at the same themes, a

736
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,900
an article where they both gave 
quotes and perine was like yeah.

737
00:39:33,900 --> 00:39:36,800
I was very convinced by his 
sales pitch. 

738
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,800
Basically. 
Like he's gonna play me a shit 

739
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,900
ton. 
Because Javonte Williams is it 

740
00:39:40,900 --> 00:39:44,300
going to be 100% all year? 
Yeah. 

741
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,400
Alright, back to the, I want to 
hold on. 

742
00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:51,100
Yeah, I like the pure on one 
that back to Wilson Davis, I had

743
00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:53,100
the same thought to you. 
As thought as you about the 

744
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:58,100
Dolphins they only have four 
picks in the draft in total and 

745
00:39:58,100 --> 00:40:01,600
I kind of forgot that they gave 
up two picks, right? 

746
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,000
Yeah, they only have so they're 
only day to Pixar pick 51 and 

747
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,600
pick 84 then they don't pick 
again till pick 197 and pick 

748
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,100
238. 
They did give Jeff both Jeff 

749
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:16,100
Wilson and Remo stirred around 2
million and guarantee that 

750
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:18,900
signing. 
So I think like like I think 

751
00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:20,300
they're going to add one running
back. 

752
00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:24,500
I think that still makes like 
either Wilson Ramos turd worth 

753
00:40:24,500 --> 00:40:26,800
drafting in this range. 
Like I think it's still Fair 

754
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:32,200
like handcuff price 164. 
Like I don't know, worst-case 

755
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,400
scenario, pick 51. 
They could get like Gibbs or 

756
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,000
sharpen a like pick 84. 
Maybe they're in the range for 

757
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,600
like Roshan Kendry Miller like 
totally plausible scenarios, but

758
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,800
I think it might be hard for 
them to like, draft to like 

759
00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:49,300
better. 
Her running backs than Jeff 

760
00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:51,600
Wilson. 
So that's my only slight push 

761
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,400
back there that I think I'm okay
with Wilson at that price. 

762
00:40:54,700 --> 00:40:58,100
Hear me out, undrafted free 
agent. 

763
00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:02,000
Do spawned the Miami Dolphins 
who objects not me? 

764
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,600
I just can we just I don't I 
don't ask very much out of the 

765
00:41:06,607 --> 00:41:11,400
NFL but just can I get like a 
game uh, NFL game of seeing what

766
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,400
do spawn can do out? 
And if I just, that's all I 

767
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,400
want, I just want what I just 
want to see it happen. 

768
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,800
Once when's his pro day. 
Are we getting a workout? 

769
00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:23,300
It's a good question. 
You should just pull this one 

770
00:41:23,300 --> 00:41:25,400
off. 
I've run a five, flat three-cone

771
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,900
Deuce. 
That's what we need out of you. 

772
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,800
They're two fastest three, come 
in human history. 

773
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,500
He's got an airplane their Pro 
Day, their Pro Day is next 

774
00:41:35,500 --> 00:41:37,500
Friday. 
All right. 

775
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,300
Mark it on, your calendar is, 
what time is it? 

776
00:41:39,300 --> 00:41:42,700
During ATP? 
Chasing, it's at 3:00. 

777
00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:44,100
So, no, it'll be, it'll just get
ill. 

778
00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:46,700
Just get done it. 
Should we move the show? 

779
00:41:47,100 --> 00:41:49,200
Should we go? 
See we go? 

780
00:41:49,300 --> 00:41:50,500
I haven't been. 
I haven't been that. 

781
00:41:50,700 --> 00:41:53,600
To my college. 
Like, since I graduate her know,

782
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,000
I've been back once. 
We could do, we could do, we 

783
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,000
could do all K-State trip and 
go. 

784
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,000
Hang, let's do it at all. 
My old haunts, we can go see my 

785
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,500
old College, a house. 
How big is the the corporate 

786
00:42:05,500 --> 00:42:08,600
budget 480p chasing to? 
They allocate some try funds. 

787
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,800
We got. 
Yeah, we got to get, we got to 

788
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,700
get on the horn. 
We got to get on the horn to mr.

789
00:42:14,700 --> 00:42:18,000
Overs, that and we'll see if we 
can get legendary upside as 

790
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,500
sponsor this thing I, for sure, 
I for sure can like, I will have

791
00:42:22,700 --> 00:42:25,300
couches to crash on though. 
No doubt about it. 

792
00:42:25,300 --> 00:42:27,200
So we can take the housing 
budget. 

793
00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:32,600
This does seem like kind of like
a bucket list item here. 

794
00:42:33,700 --> 00:42:37,100
Aston Martin. 
How many retweets and faves? 

795
00:42:37,100 --> 00:42:46,100
A picture of me, you and do svan
the book for the engagement 

796
00:42:48,500 --> 00:42:50,900
that's already in you and Vaughn
Davis. 

797
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,200
He's out. 
He's like an inch taller than 

798
00:42:54,200 --> 00:43:00,600
me. 
Probably me and do svant me and 

799
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,700
do stuff on doing the short 
shuttle at the same time and we 

800
00:43:03,700 --> 00:43:09,500
do we do a little side by side. 
We need to find out who he 

801
00:43:09,500 --> 00:43:11,700
signed with his agent. 
Let's go. 

802
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:14,800
I know, I bet I could lie. 
I bet I can figure this stuff 

803
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,000
out. 
I can we get let's let's do 

804
00:43:17,008 --> 00:43:17,800
this. 
Let's get. 

805
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,200
Do spawn on at least. 
One episode of ATP. 

806
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,900
Chasing this off season. 
I bet we can I honestly got, I 

807
00:43:22,908 --> 00:43:26,000
bet we can. 
Yeah, we might have to fudge the

808
00:43:26,008 --> 00:43:27,800
numbers. 
So he looks like the biggest 

809
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:33,000
Riser maybe as a come on the 
show but that'd be great. 

810
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,700
The biggest riser in our hearts,
this. 

811
00:43:35,700 --> 00:43:40,000
Yeah, let's that's not before I 
move on to followers. 

812
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,500
I want to talk Brandin Cooks. 
I think this is like potentially

813
00:43:42,500 --> 00:43:43,900
the most interesting water. 
See. 

814
00:43:43,900 --> 00:43:48,300
Remove the offseason besides DJ 
more to the Bears. 

815
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:51,900
Yeah. 
Curious what you guys think 

816
00:43:51,900 --> 00:43:55,500
about going around pick 90? 
Now I I still think that's like 

817
00:43:55,500 --> 00:43:58,100
quite good considering the other
wide receivers in that range, 

818
00:43:58,100 --> 00:44:01,900
but yeah, is easy to old. 
Are we worried about sort of him

819
00:44:01,900 --> 00:44:05,000
falling off with the Texans? 
Potentially, what do we think 

820
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:10,300
there? 
I just am worried about like I 

821
00:44:10,308 --> 00:44:12,700
guess the thing with cook says, 
he's just done this so many 

822
00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:14,600
times. 
He's been traded four times and 

823
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,500
pretty much has always been good
in the new spot. 

824
00:44:17,500 --> 00:44:21,900
I think the thing you worry 
about is that clearly CD is 

825
00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:26,200
better than him and he might 
just like, what, what isn't 

826
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,800
there? 
Just a chance that Gallup is a 

827
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,200
little bit better, two years 
from room from the ACL. 

828
00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:32,800
And now, Brandon Cooks is just 
basically Marquez Valdez 

829
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,300
scantling on the Dallas Cowboys.
There's a chance of that but he 

830
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,600
hasn't fallen off that 
dramatically. 

831
00:44:41,100 --> 00:44:44,600
I think he says what was his 
yards per outrun stuff like last

832
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,600
year? 
It was like one point four to 

833
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,800
one point five ish range I think
up top of my head. 

834
00:44:49,900 --> 00:44:53,000
Yeah so I will also throw out 
there that Matt Harmon at 

835
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,800
reception perception actually 
says that like by his charting 

836
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,700
Brandin Cooks is not falling off
at all. 

837
00:44:58,700 --> 00:45:01,000
And actually his last couple 
years with the Texans, he's been

838
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,200
like better at success rate 
versus man. 

839
00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:04,800
That's been hidden in like 
yards. 

840
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,300
Around, because he's been with, 
you know, fucking Davis Mills 

841
00:45:07,300 --> 00:45:09,700
and garbage. 
He also was, but he also was 

842
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:13,600
better than I gave him credit 
for 1.64, which is not great, 

843
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,400
but it's not like concerning and
he was 1.96 two years ago which 

844
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,500
is actually extremely good. 
Give me his plan with David 

845
00:45:19,500 --> 00:45:24,000
smells. 
Yeah, I think your scenario is 

846
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,400
possible though. 
Davis like I think people are 

847
00:45:26,408 --> 00:45:29,400
maybe sleeping a little bit on 
Gallop just because they CL 

848
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:30,900
stuff. 
Can sometimes take two years for

849
00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:34,000
guys to bounce back but I still 
think like the Cowboys in 

850
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,000
general, like Seemed a little 
too cheap and I think like they 

851
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,800
should have to pass catchers 
going in the top 80 picks. 

852
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,100
Probably, I don't know, maybe 
not with McCarthy. 

853
00:45:45,100 --> 00:45:49,800
But I'm I also think you want to
think about this in the terms, 

854
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:55,300
in terms of like the larger 
positional prices and there are 

855
00:45:55,300 --> 00:45:57,500
not a lot of wide receivers left
to pick 89. 

856
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,000
Yeah you know this is this is a 
big thing. 

857
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,000
Yeah, so I think he's a good 
pick there still and you know if

858
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:09,100
we're talking about About draft 
landscape, post NFL draft, where

859
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,200
or whatever running backs, just 
start going higher, you know, 

860
00:46:12,300 --> 00:46:15,900
sometime in July or August. 
This price would translate to 

861
00:46:15,900 --> 00:46:18,800
like maybe more like, pick one 
hundred, you know what I mean? 

862
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,600
So I think he's a pretty good. 
Pretty good pick still. 

863
00:46:23,300 --> 00:46:28,500
Okay, here's a question. 
Just let's say like, is CD being

864
00:46:28,500 --> 00:46:31,600
out good or bad for Cooks 
though. 

865
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,700
Like like is he a guy who gains 
contingent value? 

866
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,500
What is he actually, I can't I 
can't decide. 

867
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,700
I mean also part of it. 
Yeah, I'll go grab it is. 

868
00:46:41,700 --> 00:46:43,600
I don't know what the Cowboys 
are going to look like without 

869
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,000
Kellen Moore. 
Like like these two guys who are

870
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,100
in charge of the Cowboys this 
year are like architects of some

871
00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:51,700
of the worst offense, as we've 
seen with with good, 

872
00:46:51,700 --> 00:46:54,200
quarterbacks right 
Schottenheimer and McCarthy have

873
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,500
been run out of town by Hall of 
Fame level Court. 

874
00:46:57,500 --> 00:47:02,500
Like Brian Schottenheimer was 
the Jacksonville Jaguars 2021 

875
00:47:02,500 --> 00:47:06,700
offensive coordinator Lucky's 
then He's been so bad. 

876
00:47:07,300 --> 00:47:11,200
Yeah, but in some ways, I wonder
if that makes CD a little bit 

877
00:47:11,300 --> 00:47:14,600
riskier because yeah, he's 
really expensive. 

878
00:47:14,900 --> 00:47:18,200
And the whole thing with 
McCarthy and Schottenheimer is 

879
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,400
that their offenses are 
basically like, all right, go do

880
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,000
your thing, man. 
Like they don't scheme anything,

881
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,800
it's like go win. 
But like Crooks is someone 

882
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,400
actually feel pretty good about 
doing that. 

883
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,700
He's been in terrible offense, 
he's been in a million different

884
00:47:29,700 --> 00:47:31,700
offenses. 
He's always succeeded 

885
00:47:31,700 --> 00:47:34,400
reasonably, well, no matter 
where he's been like, I actually

886
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,500
a.m. 
I'm confident that if you just 

887
00:47:36,500 --> 00:47:38,300
like, have him go run the 
routes. 

888
00:47:38,300 --> 00:47:40,700
They like him to run. 
He'll do good on those routes 

889
00:47:40,700 --> 00:47:44,200
will get open enough. 
So especially with lamb being 

890
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,600
there to help that. 
I think, you know, we've also 

891
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:53,300
seen him be a Target hog. 
When there's not anyone else to 

892
00:47:53,300 --> 00:47:57,500
throw to we've seen him operate 
along will Fuller and be a good 

893
00:47:57,500 --> 00:48:00,700
secondary option. 
So I feel like kind of both 

894
00:48:00,700 --> 00:48:03,500
paths are are viable. 
If it's lamb or get hurt, he'd 

895
00:48:03,500 --> 00:48:06,500
have a lot of value, I think. 
If Lambs there, he can be a 

896
00:48:06,500 --> 00:48:07,900
solid wide receiver to on that 
team. 

897
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,800
All right. 
That seems about swear. 

898
00:48:14,300 --> 00:48:19,100
Let's talk followers for so the 
largest fallers over the past 

899
00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:22,000
week, we again have similar 
names. 

900
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,900
Here case, Shawn bouder, Lamar 
Jackson, Austin Eckler, and Joe 

901
00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:29,200
Borough appear in the list for 
the second week in a row. 

902
00:48:29,700 --> 00:48:33,200
And then guys like Swift, Daniel
Bellinger with Waller signing, 

903
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,300
on the Giants. 
Zeke obviously got caught Sam, 

904
00:48:36,300 --> 00:48:39,900
Howell assume, that's percent 
related, PR Strong James 

905
00:48:39,900 --> 00:48:42,300
Robinson related. 
As I have a kenzi.com. 

906
00:48:42,700 --> 00:48:47,300
But that rounds out the fallers 
here for the past week, I want 

907
00:48:47,300 --> 00:48:50,100
to have a bit of the quarterback
discussion with you guys this 

908
00:48:50,100 --> 00:48:51,500
week. 
It seems like the early 

909
00:48:51,500 --> 00:48:55,300
quarterback drafters are 
capitulating a little bit. 

910
00:48:55,300 --> 00:48:57,600
Totally totally what's 
happening. 

911
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,100
Yeah, we saw the homeless last 
week burrow and Jackson are for 

912
00:49:01,100 --> 00:49:03,400
the second week in a row. 
Yeah. 

913
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,700
Is this, is this second round 
quarterback? 

914
00:49:06,700 --> 00:49:11,100
Meta gonna gonna die by the time
best of all? 

915
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,900
All Mania for comes out. 
It's gonna it's gonna be, is 

916
00:49:14,900 --> 00:49:18,300
going to be it's going to be big
once once the Casual that will 

917
00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:20,500
not even the Casual is because 
you got to be pretty sick to be 

918
00:49:20,500 --> 00:49:22,400
drafting best Ball Mania three 
teams in May. 

919
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:29,100
But the even, when even when 
the, the less true djn mentally 

920
00:49:29,100 --> 00:49:32,500
ill, people get drafting, I 
think, I think we're going to 

921
00:49:32,500 --> 00:49:34,500
see the quarterbacks continue to
fall. 

922
00:49:34,900 --> 00:49:38,200
I do love this, like, 
categorization of the best ball 

923
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,400
to generative like met people 
like yeah. 

924
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,400
Yeah, but you still love Go out 
to dinner and stuff people. 

925
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,600
Occasionally it's like you're 
not at the level sicko drafting 

926
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,600
today. 
March March March drafters 

927
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,000
haven't touched grass since they
don't remember. 

928
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,000
They don't even say they have no
idea. 

929
00:49:53,100 --> 00:50:00,300
Yeah yeah, yeah. 
I think, I think it will 

930
00:50:00,300 --> 00:50:03,600
definitely change, but I guess 
it's sort of like, does it does 

931
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,700
it matter because you know, this
tournaments going to close and 

932
00:50:06,700 --> 00:50:10,400
these atp's will be what they 
are and you know, then they'll 

933
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,500
be different ATP. 
These and you could be someone 

934
00:50:12,500 --> 00:50:14,700
that you're acting quarterback 
early now and then, you know, in

935
00:50:14,700 --> 00:50:17,300
that other environment be 
someone who's waiting longer, 

936
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:22,100
but I do feel like this is sort 
of the worst time to capitulate 

937
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,800
because like, Richardson is now 
expensive. 

938
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,600
I feel I feel worse about 
waiting at quarterback than I 

939
00:50:29,607 --> 00:50:33,900
did early in the offseason. 
Like I was not drafting any of 

940
00:50:33,900 --> 00:50:37,000
these really pricey quarterbacks
to begin Big Board drafts 

941
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,200
because I was just like, I'll 
take 3 and draft Richardson or, 

942
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,000
you know, I'll I'll tackle and 
Bryce young or whatever, like I 

943
00:50:43,008 --> 00:50:45,600
kind of Bright Young was a 
little more inexpensive as well,

944
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,600
I think but now I've actually 
mixed them in a little bit 

945
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,600
because I'm not as confident 
that I can figure out 

946
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,300
quarterback later. 
So I've kind of gone the other 

947
00:50:54,300 --> 00:50:56,700
way. 
I am occasionally drafting some 

948
00:50:56,700 --> 00:51:00,200
of these Sacramento. 
Quarterbacks now Yeah, at this 

949
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,900
point like they're not going to 
drop like anyone's either 

950
00:51:03,900 --> 00:51:06,500
getting them in the late. 
Second, early third. 

951
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,800
And is that really like a 
difference? 

952
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,300
I would say not really like 
you're just kind of flipping 

953
00:51:11,300 --> 00:51:14,300
like instead of taking you know 
Josh Jacobson the third and 

954
00:51:14,300 --> 00:51:16,800
Mahomes and the second you're 
taking Josh, a Cubs in the 

955
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,200
second homes in the third or 
whatever player you want it. 

956
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,700
So I wanted in there right? 
Like I'm skeptical it matters 

957
00:51:21,700 --> 00:51:24,800
that much if that's the only 
drop or seeing so I'm kind of 

958
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:30,000
with you Pat that I'm fine. 
And just because now I know 

959
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,600
like, oh, I'm not getting 
Bamboozled by like stupid like 

960
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,300
early prices for them, like I'm 
pretty confident. 

961
00:51:36,300 --> 00:51:38,800
We're getting the same ish 
prices throughout the entire Big

962
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,500
Board. 
Like at this point if you want 

963
00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:43,600
to take the high ceiling, 
quarterbacks, I'm fine with it. 

964
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,000
If it's, if it's tactile, yeah. 
I don't know. 

965
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,300
Dona Paula take. 
So I did, I did a couple drafts 

966
00:51:50,300 --> 00:51:56,300
this week and I just like 
intuitively felt the expensive 

967
00:51:56,300 --> 00:51:58,000
quarterback. 
Prices were like insane. 

968
00:51:58,100 --> 00:52:01,300
Like, every time I was on the 
clock and I saw like Mahomes 

969
00:52:01,300 --> 00:52:05,000
herds, I was just like, I can't,
I can't click these. 

970
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,900
I whereas, whereas the maybe 
previously in the past, you 

971
00:52:09,900 --> 00:52:13,400
know, sort of the the pick 60 
through pick 80, guys, I would 

972
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,200
have been, like, that's the 
worst range to draft a 

973
00:52:15,207 --> 00:52:17,900
quarterback, you know. 
You're sort of like overpaying 

974
00:52:18,100 --> 00:52:21,400
for the security of just knowing
they have a job for 16 weeks, 

975
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,800
like, like Trevor. 
Lawrence to me, feels like a 

976
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,900
really good pocket of the draft 
where there's not, anyone I'm 

977
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:34,300
absolutely begging to take their
so that one that one was was 

978
00:52:34,300 --> 00:52:39,300
interesting. 
Do we think Elijah more will be 

979
00:52:39,300 --> 00:52:45,100
on the biggest risers next week,
huh? 

980
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,200
Yeah, probably right. 
Well, though, he was always a 

981
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:53,100
little expensive, so, I don't 
know, well, maybe now it, now, 

982
00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:57,900
it just feels like he's not a 
terrible pick, it just depends 

983
00:52:57,900 --> 00:52:59,900
on it. 
Depends on where Leone ranks 

984
00:52:59,900 --> 00:53:02,200
him, right? 
I mean, at the end of the day, 

985
00:53:03,700 --> 00:53:06,800
they get some Insider info on 
gonna be. 

986
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,600
It's the end. 
Leone and see if. 

987
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,000
Okay, this is gonna run right 
now. 

988
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,800
Elijah more is the wide receiver
52. 

989
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,900
I'll pull up e TR and see where 
he's ranked right now. 

990
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:21,000
I bet I Betty I bet it's oh no 
because Lea he's too young 

991
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,700
Leone. 
Might not Leone might not be 

992
00:53:22,700 --> 00:53:24,900
into the 23 year old wide 
receiver. 

993
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,900
Plus you do have to split up 
targets between in Joe code on 

994
00:53:27,900 --> 00:53:29,500
the people's Jones Cooper and 
more. 

995
00:53:29,500 --> 00:53:31,900
So I bet he's lower than that. 
Okay, yeah. 

996
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,300
See. 
He's only asking. 

997
00:53:33,300 --> 00:53:36,000
So this news has been out for 
what, three, three days. 

998
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,800
Now, two days. 
Gotta forget and he's only, he's

999
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:44,300
up one spot over the past week, 
so maybe there's like a lag and 

1000
00:53:44,300 --> 00:53:47,200
he's going to rise a little more
but I kind of think the market 

1001
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,800
is treating this as like 
equivalent situation. 

1002
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,000
I think like, in both 
situations, you had sort of a 

1003
00:53:54,008 --> 00:53:57,100
clear Alpha like Amari Cooper 
and Garrett Wilson, obviously 

1004
00:53:57,100 --> 00:53:59,400
Wilson's better than Cooper. 
But, you know, sort of, sort, of

1005
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,300
clear, Target owners and their 
teams and then you have like, 

1006
00:54:02,300 --> 00:54:05,200
secondary guys that are gonna 
kind of get in the way for 

1007
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,800
various reasons, Allen Lazard. 
Because are Rogers loves him and

1008
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,100
then Donovan people's Jones 
because I think he's good at 

1009
00:54:11,100 --> 00:54:13,200
what he does running like deep 
clear out route. 

1010
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:18,000
So I don't know I guess like 
does this a lot more see snaps 

1011
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,900
and to wide receiver sets that 
up. 

1012
00:54:19,900 --> 00:54:22,700
That's what I'm trying to think 
through like probably. 

1013
00:54:22,700 --> 00:54:25,200
But I'm really not sure that I 
don't think so. 

1014
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,800
But I bet they run a decent 
amount of three. 

1015
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:31,100
So maybe it doesn't matter if 
it's on, he's a good. 

1016
00:54:31,100 --> 00:54:33,400
He's going to be behind tpj 
into. 

1017
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,400
We have a matters for the TD, TD
stuff and yeah, it's a ton of 

1018
00:54:37,500 --> 00:54:38,700
Touchdowns. 
Yeah. 

1019
00:54:38,700 --> 00:54:40,900
What would you project his route
right to be like, probably like 

1020
00:54:40,900 --> 00:54:43,500
75 or 80%? 
Like no, I see. 

1021
00:54:43,500 --> 00:54:46,400
That's the thing though. 
Is maybe he only plays 65% of 

1022
00:54:46,408 --> 00:54:48,800
the staffs but I bet his route 
rates really good. 

1023
00:54:49,100 --> 00:54:49,900
You do. 
Okay. 

1024
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,600
Okay weakness because Cleveland 
is such a you know got to run 

1025
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,000
the dang ball, Nick Chubb type 
but you know they're just going 

1026
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,200
to just going to be Harrison 
Bryant you know how they talk in

1027
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,500
Cleveland? 
No I don't even that's a good. 

1028
00:55:04,500 --> 00:55:08,400
I don't have no idea what's to 
face sounds like But to me, 

1029
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,900
that's what anyone who's ever 
coach. 

1030
00:55:09,900 --> 00:55:13,500
Nick Chubb has to have like a 
really, really to over rot 

1031
00:55:13,500 --> 00:55:16,300
southern accent basically. 
Lets you meet Nick Chubb, you 

1032
00:55:16,308 --> 00:55:24,600
turn to Foghorn Leghorn, right? 
I mean, I my general thought 

1033
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,700
would just be is like that. 
Just all feels like window 

1034
00:55:27,700 --> 00:55:29,300
dressing because either it's 
Elijah. 

1035
00:55:29,300 --> 00:55:31,500
More is actually, as good as we 
always thought he was. 

1036
00:55:31,500 --> 00:55:34,900
And now, he doesn't have a coach
and a quarterback awaits him, or

1037
00:55:34,900 --> 00:55:36,900
he does, or he's not that good, 
right? 

1038
00:55:36,900 --> 00:55:39,800
I just Think like at a wide 
receiver 52 Brides. 

1039
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,500
I think, you're really, it's 
actually what we just talked 

1040
00:55:42,500 --> 00:55:44,500
about with Penny earlier. 
Like, there's no way. 

1041
00:55:44,500 --> 00:55:46,400
Elijah more finish his wide 
receiver 52. 

1042
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,500
It's either like he's wide 
receiver, 29 or like, he's like,

1043
00:55:50,500 --> 00:55:51,900
not on the team. 
They just caught him or 

1044
00:55:51,908 --> 00:55:54,800
something, you know. 
Yeah. 

1045
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,700
Like maybe is it got a bad 
attitude? 

1046
00:55:57,500 --> 00:56:00,600
Yeah, I think he has a little 
bit of like contingent upside 

1047
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,000
because I kind of agree with 
with you bad that I would not 

1048
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,300
reject him to play in three wide
receiver to wide receiver sets. 

1049
00:56:06,300 --> 00:56:09,700
But I Like he if you believe 
what he did it as a rookie, I 

1050
00:56:09,707 --> 00:56:12,600
think he showed he like Ken when
verse Man coverage, I know the 

1051
00:56:12,607 --> 00:56:14,400
people who charged him sort of 
showed that. 

1052
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,200
So like I think pick 110, you 
know, doesn't project with three

1053
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,200
wide receiver sets, but he's not
appear slot, he could do it. 

1054
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,100
If it was called upon, I think 
it's like a fine price. 

1055
00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:27,700
I'm not super pumped about it, 
but if I took DeShaun Watson, 

1056
00:56:27,700 --> 00:56:30,200
like I make it somewhat of a 
priority to get more, I think 

1057
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,400
there's enough enough upside 
there. 

1058
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:38,300
Are you taking dpj or more? 
Probably they're right next to 

1059
00:56:38,300 --> 00:56:40,000
each other. 
More more. 

1060
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:44,100
Come on again, or did you PJ D? 
PJ is team prayer yards, you 

1061
00:56:44,107 --> 00:56:47,900
know, Yeah, I think I'm with you
guys. 

1062
00:56:47,900 --> 00:56:50,200
I think it's close. 
Doesn't it doesn't it feel like 

1063
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,600
also it's really more about like
is this awesome counting snaps 

1064
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,100
in his head? 
Yeah isn't it isn't it also kind

1065
00:56:57,100 --> 00:57:00,000
of more like is DeShaun Watson 
just going to be total ass again

1066
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,100
or is he going to be good? 
You know that that also feels 

1067
00:57:03,100 --> 00:57:08,800
like a huge part of it. 
DB Japanese good if Watson's 

1068
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,400
good one path to that you know 
to him kind of taking that step 

1069
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,000
and feel more comfortable. 
Is that more is also good. 

1070
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:18,400
They feel more plausibly like 
really positively correlated 

1071
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,500
than him and DP'd or more. 
I mean more 11 personnel. 

1072
00:57:21,500 --> 00:57:24,100
Instead of 12 Personnel. 
Should also theoretically help 

1073
00:57:24,100 --> 00:57:26,900
too because like 12-person I was
asking your quarterback to do a 

1074
00:57:26,900 --> 00:57:30,800
lot because no one's taking no, 
really, no one's take. 

1075
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,800
No one's taking chub seriously 
as a receiver, and no one's 

1076
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,800
taking her son, Brian, 
seriously, the receiver, right? 

1077
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:42,100
The Cleveland stack is kind of 
kind of interesting like you 

1078
00:57:42,100 --> 00:57:46,600
could get to Sean and joke. 
You pick your poison more verse 

1079
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,200
tpj all. 
It's a really easy stack 8, 10 

1080
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:54,200
and 11 and like that feels like 
pretty good upside for the cost 

1081
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,500
to be honest. 
I hate saying exotic snack. 

1082
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,500
I've fucking hate drafting 
DeShaun Watson I have for the 

1083
00:57:59,508 --> 00:58:02,600
past couple years but it's it's 
probably smart. 

1084
00:58:04,500 --> 00:58:06,800
I agree. 
What can you do? 

1085
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:11,400
What can you do? 
Okay, the rest of these Dusty 

1086
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,300
veterans. 
I don't really want to talk 

1087
00:58:13,300 --> 00:58:14,400
about. 
We've already had the Swift 

1088
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,900
discussion. 
Why don't we move on to the 

1089
00:58:17,900 --> 00:58:20,900
stacks and less last chance 
here. 

1090
00:58:20,900 --> 00:58:24,000
If you guys want to talk about 
Daniel Bellinger, something like

1091
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,100
that. 
Otherwise, let's move on. 

1092
00:58:27,100 --> 00:58:29,300
It's actually, actually, I got 
one. 

1093
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,500
Shouldn't we be buying the dip 
on Zeke? 

1094
00:58:31,700 --> 00:58:34,200
Buying the dip here on Zeke a 
little Because whatever team 

1095
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,000
signs hims going to give him the
ball. 

1096
00:58:36,100 --> 00:58:39,000
Like this is, this is a crane. 
You know, what this is? 

1097
00:58:39,500 --> 00:58:42,900
This is a fucking 2024, net 
situation. 

1098
00:58:42,900 --> 00:58:47,200
Not not not typically is not to 
the not to the same extent 

1099
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,700
because I think Zeke has so 
little juice and fournette. 

1100
00:58:49,700 --> 00:58:51,900
Clearly at least had juice left,
as a rusher. 

1101
00:58:52,100 --> 00:58:57,200
But like he's going to sign to 
one of these teams and get 40 

1102
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:01,100
catches 180 rushes and 10, 
touchdowns like it just it's 

1103
00:59:01,100 --> 00:59:03,200
just going to happen when I 
would say if. 

1104
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,800
You mean compared to the for net
situation, for that actually was

1105
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,800
not a good pick in 2020, he 
ended up being a really good 

1106
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,200
pick in 2021, right? 
Once he's there for the year but

1107
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,900
member it was playoff Lenny. 
He didn't do anything really 

1108
00:59:17,900 --> 00:59:20,900
until the write-offs. 
Yeah so that's right. 

1109
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,400
I think that you know maybe you 
could you could see that type of

1110
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,300
situation where he goes, there 
he goes. 

1111
00:59:26,500 --> 00:59:30,300
We're behind a guy you know and 
it's kind of like it's just he 

1112
00:59:30,300 --> 00:59:33,500
just kind of makes it gross. 
He doesn't actually pay off 

1113
00:59:33,500 --> 00:59:35,700
anything really. 
He just like destroy someone 

1114
00:59:35,700 --> 00:59:41,800
else's value but I think that 
Let me throw out a hypothetical 

1115
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,300
because the bangle is Ron. 
His final list of teams, my 

1116
00:59:45,300 --> 00:59:47,400
making that up. 
I think they well, that was the 

1117
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,000
other thing. 
That's, I think sort of red 

1118
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,100
flag, right? 
He puts out this list of teams 

1119
00:59:51,100 --> 00:59:54,200
and it's like, you know, the 
three, the three finalists for 

1120
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:58,700
Zeke and it like then the 
reports came out like these like

1121
00:59:58,700 --> 01:00:00,900
the eagles are like yeah we've 
not talked to him. 

1122
01:00:02,100 --> 01:00:04,700
Like the the finalists are. 
He's saying they're the 

1123
01:00:04,700 --> 01:00:06,800
finalists like it's it's the 
eighth. 

1124
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,800
The agents are saying that to 
get him some money, I think. 

1125
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,200
Yeah, that is that is a red 
flag. 

1126
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,000
I'm just putting it out there to
get him a job. 

1127
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:19,100
Okay, butbut how much, okay, 
Ezekiel Elliott in the Joe mix 

1128
01:00:19,100 --> 01:00:21,400
and roll. 
Joe Mixon gets caught how much 

1129
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:27,600
worse is Zeke than Joe Mixon? 
A lot worse, really? 

1130
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,800
Yeah, I wouldn't say a lot 
worse. 

1131
01:00:30,100 --> 01:00:33,200
Well, is that a mix and take 
receipt a big weight as Nick's 

1132
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,400
intake? 
It's like Nixon makes that I 

1133
01:00:35,408 --> 01:00:40,200
think was had a lot of juice 
things like 24, but he's 

1134
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:47,600
Mix-ins. 28, no. 
See that old babies? 

1135
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,700
No babies. 
Not that old you don't if you 

1136
01:00:49,700 --> 01:00:50,600
gotta add. 
Yeah. 

1137
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,600
Yeah. 
Added two years, he does turns 

1138
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,600
17 inch. 
That's, that's what I do. 

1139
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,000
That's so, so whatever I say it 
is a just got it. 

1140
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,100
No, it's a guy. 
I don't like it's two years 

1141
01:00:59,100 --> 01:01:02,800
older than he actually only only
a year plus. 

1142
01:01:03,100 --> 01:01:06,100
So Leonard Leonard fournette. 
Is is 32 you know? 

1143
01:01:06,100 --> 01:01:08,000
It's like it's like by that 
math. 

1144
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:09,100
Yeah. 
Easily. 

1145
01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:11,600
My babies 44 me. 
Yeah. 

1146
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,900
I guess I would I think it feels
like we're timing the, the 

1147
01:01:15,900 --> 01:01:18,800
bottom a little bit if you take 
Zeke now, like, is it going to 

1148
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,700
fall this much farther? 
I don't know. 

1149
01:01:21,700 --> 01:01:24,500
Like, I guess it depends how 
much you care about getting 

1150
01:01:24,500 --> 01:01:27,000
exposure to seek this year. 
If you want, if you want 

1151
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,400
exposure, think you draft and 
now because I think he probably 

1152
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:34,200
goes up a little bit but we'll 
see. 

1153
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,200
And I guess the thing that you 
have they out you have was Zeke 

1154
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,700
is that he was playing through 
injury and he doesn't. 

1155
01:01:40,900 --> 01:01:44,800
He's not as Dusty. 
As he looked that's an argument 

1156
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,200
for what, like, four years in a 
row for him, it is fun. 

1157
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,400
I mean, maybe this time it'll 
work, you know, and at this 

1158
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,700
price, like if he's just not 
complete dust and then he lands 

1159
01:01:54,700 --> 01:01:57,300
somewhere. 
You know what, he could land 

1160
01:01:57,300 --> 01:01:59,500
like if he lands with the 
Chargers or whatever, if he 

1161
01:01:59,500 --> 01:02:02,800
lands with the Chiefs, you know,
are The Bangles or whatever, 

1162
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:07,700
like, there are spots where it's
not, it's not that bad and pick 

1163
01:02:07,700 --> 01:02:11,700
150. 
I mean, I don't know. 

1164
01:02:11,700 --> 01:02:14,500
There are other guys that I 
like, they're more than Zeke 

1165
01:02:14,500 --> 01:02:16,100
still. 
I wish he'd follow a little 

1166
01:02:16,100 --> 01:02:17,500
further. 
I guess like, I want Elijah 

1167
01:02:17,500 --> 01:02:19,200
Mitchell. 
Still over Zeke. 

1168
01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:20,600
I want. 
I think. 

1169
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,000
I want Damien Harris. 
Still over Zeke. 

1170
01:02:24,900 --> 01:02:27,300
Those guys are now gone slowly. 
So, let me Damien Damien, 

1171
01:02:27,300 --> 01:02:29,100
Harris. 
Damien Harris is an absolute 

1172
01:02:29,100 --> 01:02:29,900
Jam. 
Damien. 

1173
01:02:29,900 --> 01:02:32,300
Harris is like a, you should 
take him like, we're Penny's 

1174
01:02:32,300 --> 01:02:36,200
going really? 
So I don't, I mean, aren't you 

1175
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,000
worried at all about? 
Like Josh down stealing goal 

1176
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,000
line work and then him getting 
boxed out of receiving work and 

1177
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,800
now he's like just kind of the 
Trap Back. 

1178
01:02:45,500 --> 01:02:48,800
And put the Trap back on the 
third best offense and the NFL 

1179
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,800
probably should go higher than 
150. 

1180
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,200
Right? 
Yeah. 

1181
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:53,800
No. 
Yeah, that's fair. 

1182
01:02:54,300 --> 01:02:56,500
If you settle like, I think will
probably settle in the 

1183
01:02:56,500 --> 01:02:58,400
Singletary. 
Like 101. 

1184
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,500
That's all it's like I would 
draft Damien, Harris. 

1185
01:03:00,500 --> 01:03:03,200
I accept accept, Amy Harris is 
probably better than don't 

1186
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,200
Singletary. 
Who's like, every one of the 

1187
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,500
least athletic running backs 
we've ever seen Damien Harris 

1188
01:03:08,500 --> 01:03:12,000
had a lot of like long Breakaway
runs in the past like two years 

1189
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,700
ago when he led the NFL in 
rushing TDS. 

1190
01:03:15,700 --> 01:03:19,700
He's not a super fast guy but he
has way more than Singletary 

1191
01:03:19,700 --> 01:03:22,600
doesn't open field in terms of 
taking you know a 10-yard run 

1192
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,000
and making it a 50-yard run. 
He can, he can do that a little 

1193
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,700
bit. 
Yeah, I'm with that. 

1194
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:31,800
All right, let's let's talk 
Stacks here. 

1195
01:03:32,700 --> 01:03:35,800
So this is the same chart we've 
showed for the past couple 

1196
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,400
weeks. 
This chart is a little tough to 

1197
01:03:38,408 --> 01:03:40,300
digest. 
So I'll try to break it down a 

1198
01:03:40,308 --> 01:03:42,500
little bit better than I have 
previously. 

1199
01:03:42,500 --> 01:03:46,200
So this is the gray bars here. 
I did call this chart out last 

1200
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,400
week. 
Yeah, it's yeah. 

1201
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,400
I totally sometimes I make a 
chart and I'm like, it makes 

1202
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:56,100
total sense to me but no one 
else has actually done the work 

1203
01:03:56,100 --> 01:03:57,700
to make the shirt. 
So it's super confusing to 

1204
01:03:57,707 --> 01:03:59,800
everyone else. 
So if you look at per second, 

1205
01:03:59,900 --> 01:04:01,900
Does make sense. 
You just need to digest it a 

1206
01:04:01,908 --> 01:04:03,900
little? 
Yeah, I think the best way to 

1207
01:04:03,900 --> 01:04:08,800
read it is the gray bars are 
sort of the price of the stack. 

1208
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,700
That's the average of the double
stack ATP. 

1209
01:04:11,700 --> 01:04:13,800
So the quarterback and the top 
to pass catchers. 

1210
01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:16,200
So that's sorted. 
Left to right from the most 

1211
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:17,900
expensive Stacks to the cheapest
stack. 

1212
01:04:17,900 --> 01:04:20,600
So, Philly Bangles in the far 
left side. 

1213
01:04:21,500 --> 01:04:26,400
New England Carolina far right 
side, the the colored bars are 

1214
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,600
the positions that make up the 
double stack. 

1215
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,400
So the purple bars are 
Quarterbacks and the red and 

1216
01:04:32,500 --> 01:04:34,500
yellow bars are the, the pass 
catchers. 

1217
01:04:34,500 --> 01:04:36,900
So you can see the average 
prices and you can also see 

1218
01:04:36,900 --> 01:04:40,500
like, oh, if I look at Kansas 
City, I can see that, you know, 

1219
01:04:40,500 --> 01:04:42,200
Kelsey's way up in the first 
round. 

1220
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,400
That's the Red Bar, the purple 
bars Mahomes like mid third 

1221
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:49,200
round and then that third bar is
Tony the second pass catcher at 

1222
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,600
pick 180 or whatever or sorry I 
picked 80 so that's sort of the 

1223
01:04:52,607 --> 01:04:56,400
way to read the chart. 
The changes I made this week is 

1224
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:01,200
to sort of Fairly compare Are 
some of these teams that are 

1225
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,100
going to draft a rookie 
quarterback. 

1226
01:05:03,500 --> 01:05:07,100
I just plugged in the chalk, 
Landing spots for those teams. 

1227
01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:09,600
So I put CJ Stroud on the 
Panthers. 

1228
01:05:09,700 --> 01:05:14,400
I put Bryce Young on the Texans 
and I put Anthony Richardson on 

1229
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,200
the Colts. 
I didn't assign will love us 

1230
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:18,500
anywhere because he's being 
drafted. 

1231
01:05:18,500 --> 01:05:20,700
So late that it wouldn't affect 
the chart. 

1232
01:05:20,700 --> 01:05:22,900
I don't think. 
And I also assigned Aaron 

1233
01:05:22,900 --> 01:05:27,400
Rodgers to to the Jets here. 
So that makes those teams a 

1234
01:05:27,408 --> 01:05:30,000
little more comparable. 
What I want to talk about is You

1235
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,800
go to the far right side of this
chart, and look at the cheapest 

1236
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,700
Stacks. 
You got Carolina, Houston and 

1237
01:05:35,700 --> 01:05:39,000
Indianapolis all extremely 
cheap, all teams that were 

1238
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,800
expecting the draft rookie 
quarterbacks my kind of take 

1239
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,700
away from this is like I think 
there's a lot of upside in those

1240
01:05:45,700 --> 01:05:49,200
three teams because their 
rookie, quarterbacks are very 

1241
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,200
cheap because they're pass, 
catchers are very cheap. 

1242
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:56,000
And, you know, especially Stroud
and Young have upside of being 

1243
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,700
really good NFL pastors. 
You know, maybe not in your one,

1244
01:05:58,700 --> 01:06:02,600
but that's sort of what they've 
Project as so I'm pretty excited

1245
01:06:02,700 --> 01:06:05,400
you know the pass catchers are 
gross to click on but like 

1246
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,800
Houston Carolina. 
If you kind of like get box out 

1247
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:12,900
of stacks early on, I love the 
the Houston Carolina Stroud you 

1248
01:06:12,900 --> 01:06:15,100
know Bryce young Stacks, you can
build out of the drafts I think 

1249
01:06:15,100 --> 01:06:18,000
it's a lot of upside at like 
zero cost right now. 

1250
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,700
So yeah Pat what do you think 
about that? 

1251
01:06:21,700 --> 01:06:24,600
Some of the stacking up some of 
the rookie quarterback likely 

1252
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,200
teams. 
I like it. 

1253
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:30,400
It's something I've been doing I
like both of those Well, I like 

1254
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,300
the Texans pass-catching clicks 
more. 

1255
01:06:34,300 --> 01:06:37,800
I wrote a post on the legendary 
upside about Nico Collins, that 

1256
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,200
one's for free. 
Go check that out. 

1257
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,400
I think John Mitch, he's 
somewhat interesting. 

1258
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,500
I think they'll probably draft 
over. 

1259
01:06:45,500 --> 01:06:48,000
Have an update on him. 
Is this, is there, is there like

1260
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,800
an update on like as he going to
play football? 

1261
01:06:51,700 --> 01:06:53,900
I thought he was playing 
football. 

1262
01:06:54,500 --> 01:06:55,300
Is he didn't? 
He. 

1263
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,900
I haven't heard anything to be 
honest. 

1264
01:06:58,900 --> 01:07:01,000
Like, I all I know about John 
Medici. 

1265
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,800
Is that 11 months ago? 
They said he's got cancer, he's 

1266
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:06,400
not playing football. 
That's all I know. 

1267
01:07:08,100 --> 01:07:10,800
Oh, I had heard some pretty 
positive stuff in terms of his 

1268
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:14,400
recovery but I guess I don't 
100% know that he's playing 

1269
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,300
football this year. 
I'm not I did I didn't mean I 

1270
01:07:16,300 --> 01:07:19,200
didn't mean that to I didn't 
mean that to so discontent. 

1271
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:23,700
I literally did I didn't 
actually know Yeah, there's been

1272
01:07:23,700 --> 01:07:26,500
some reports a couple weeks ago 
that are positive but not saying

1273
01:07:26,500 --> 01:07:30,300
anything definitive like say 
yeah, steadily recovering. 

1274
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,000
I think it's kind of a wait a 
wait and see with them right 

1275
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:34,000
now. 
Sure. 

1276
01:07:36,500 --> 01:07:38,700
Well, I've drafted more Nico 
columns, which is good, which is

1277
01:07:38,700 --> 01:07:41,500
good. 
But I also think there probably 

1278
01:07:41,500 --> 01:07:44,900
drafting somebody, so, you know,
you're going to mix in, you 

1279
01:07:44,900 --> 01:07:48,000
know, some of these other 
rookies, you might end up with a

1280
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,600
stack. 
Their the Carolina one's a 

1281
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,000
little bit less fun. 
I don't really like taking out, 

1282
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,400
I'm feeling I've taken some 
tears, Marshall, just because I 

1283
01:07:56,408 --> 01:07:59,700
feel like he's probably going to
have some routes and of take 

1284
01:07:59,700 --> 01:08:02,700
it's a biscuit for the lulz. 
Yeah. 

1285
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,000
Are you aware? 
They signed DJ shark today? 

1286
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,200
Did they? 
Man, literally literally as we 

1287
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:12,500
got on the air, I was not heads 
a bummer for shark as well. 

1288
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,400
Is it? 
I mean, I feel like it's the 

1289
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,000
same. 
I feel like it's the same 

1290
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,399
thesis, we were just floating 
for the Texans, which is if CJ 

1291
01:08:20,399 --> 01:08:24,700
Stroud is quite good. 
Or brightest young is quite 

1292
01:08:24,700 --> 01:08:26,700
good, then the whole ceiling 
right now. 

1293
01:08:26,707 --> 01:08:30,100
Obviously, if it's Andy Dalton, 
it's or a shitty rookie, then 

1294
01:08:30,100 --> 01:08:35,600
it, then you're looking at, you 
know, deante Johnson of 2022. 

1295
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,000
Well, if he's going where those 
guys are going, I'll draft him 

1296
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:43,100
for sure, but if he's, I think 
he, you know, he had more upside

1297
01:08:43,100 --> 01:08:44,800
Landing with a better 
quarterback. 

1298
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,500
Yeah, sure. 
I think that's fine. 

1299
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,500
That's fair. 
Yeah, I guess I don't like it 

1300
01:08:50,500 --> 01:08:53,100
from like his closing line value
but I do like it. 

1301
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,200
It from like I don't think the 
markets gonna shoot up, DJ 

1302
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:59,300
torque force on any Carolina. 
They didn't really react at onto

1303
01:08:59,300 --> 01:09:02,300
thielen signing signing like a 
little bit, but not crazily. 

1304
01:09:02,500 --> 01:09:05,200
I can't even see him falling 
right because there could have 

1305
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,399
been the assumption that shark 
went to one of these good teams.

1306
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:14,600
Yeah, like the the Stroud shark 
he didn't her stack that you can

1307
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:19,100
get at pics like you know, 13th 
round 16th round, 15th round, 

1308
01:09:19,100 --> 01:09:21,000
whatever. 
Whatever it might be like. 

1309
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,200
I kind of like that upside in 
one of the playoff weeks and 

1310
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,800
best of all, if you just like, 
need a cheap stack to go off 

1311
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,800
when you know, your Raven stack 
as a down week and you need them

1312
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:32,000
to advance or something like 
that. 

1313
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:36,100
I think it's like I think it's 
pretty interesting cost adjusted

1314
01:09:36,100 --> 01:09:37,800
even though it's not the most 
interesting players. 

1315
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,800
Well, okay, let me just share 
this because I was looking up 

1316
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:46,100
the the John matchy stuff this 
from Nicosia Rio. 

1317
01:09:46,399 --> 01:09:49,700
In January. 
I'd say there's a chance that 

1318
01:09:49,700 --> 01:09:51,700
he'll be ready for the start of 
the offseason program. 

1319
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,000
I think there are still some 
things that he has to complete 

1320
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,400
or go through quite frankly. 
It's amazing what he's done to 

1321
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,200
this point. 
He actually looks better now 

1322
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,600
than he did when we drafted him 
in the spring, he's improved his

1323
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:01,800
strength. 
He's improved, his lower body 

1324
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,100
strength is attitude has been 
great even though he's Been 

1325
01:10:04,100 --> 01:10:05,700
dealing with a lot of things 
medically. 

1326
01:10:06,900 --> 01:10:09,500
So, so that sounds that sounds 
like he's gonna play. 

1327
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,800
Sounds like it's gonna play. 
Yep. 

1328
01:10:13,500 --> 01:10:14,300
Okay. 
That's good. 

1329
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,200
The other thing I wanted to go 
ahead Pat. 

1330
01:10:17,300 --> 01:10:21,100
Well I'd so this jerk stuff. 
So are we are you out on 

1331
01:10:21,100 --> 01:10:23,300
Marshall? 
Because now there's like what 

1332
01:10:23,300 --> 01:10:25,500
does it feel? 
Because he's I'm out on Marshall

1333
01:10:25,500 --> 01:10:27,600
because he stinks and their DJ 
sharks. 

1334
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,400
Probably way better than him. 
If you were probably in him. 

1335
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,600
Stinking is a problem. 
I'll grant you that. 

1336
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,500
What like what? 
Like what what is the what is 

1337
01:10:35,500 --> 01:10:37,700
the sample of Tears? 
Marshalls career where he was 

1338
01:10:37,700 --> 01:10:39,400
good. 
It was like it was like one year

1339
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:43,000
when he was playing him, you're 
not sure he was split and 

1340
01:10:43,500 --> 01:10:46,600
DraftKings and what wasn't it? 
Just all volume-based. 

1341
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,200
So I guess maybe you could argue
that even getting the volume 

1342
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,200
with something. 
So I'm shooting from the hip a 

1343
01:10:52,208 --> 01:10:55,200
little bit, these numbers. 
But I think like his yards for 

1344
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,900
out round last year, was 1.3 
ish. 

1345
01:10:57,900 --> 01:11:02,800
And DJ Morris, was like .5, his 
1.5, and he did more, it was not

1346
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,600
that much higher than that. 
So, like, if you're gonna paint 

1347
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:09,300
the absolute bull case, it's 
like, He was somewhat comparable

1348
01:11:09,300 --> 01:11:11,600
to DJ more last year from the 
efficiency standpoint. 

1349
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,900
Like I wouldn't go there. 
I like that thing. 

1350
01:11:13,900 --> 01:11:17,500
That's a little bit of a stretch
but you could squint and see 

1351
01:11:17,500 --> 01:11:20,000
that picture. 
I think, well, I think his path.

1352
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,500
The plank I'm goes through Adam 
thielen who had one point zero 

1353
01:11:23,500 --> 01:11:28,000
eight yards, per hour on playing
with Kirk Cousins, when you're 

1354
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,000
their living on thin, you're 
living on Fantasy Island. 

1355
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,900
If you think that is, Adam 
thielen, the biggest Marquee 

1356
01:11:33,900 --> 01:11:36,700
free agent to sign with the 
Carolina Panthers like What can 

1357
01:11:36,700 --> 01:11:40,000
you do Marquis? 
No people. 

1358
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:41,500
No. 
Adam thielen is named. 

1359
01:11:41,700 --> 01:11:44,500
Adam thielen. 
Adam film is well, known NFL 

1360
01:11:44,500 --> 01:11:46,900
name? 
Give me 35 dude. 

1361
01:11:47,100 --> 01:11:52,000
They gave him do they gave 39 
year-old Adam feeling like 25 

1362
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:56,300
million dollars like probably 
the cheapest in the real seven 

1363
01:11:56,300 --> 01:12:00,100
years old, 43 year old Adam 
thielen. 

1364
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,800
Other teams were probably like, 
will give you the veteran 

1365
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,900
minimum for one year and the 
Panthers were like we Cannot 

1366
01:12:06,900 --> 01:12:10,600
send a rookie quarterback to war
with shy Smith and the viscous 

1367
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,500
Channel. 
You could name your price dude, 

1368
01:12:12,500 --> 01:12:17,800
name your price to come here and
we will pay it In reality, he's 

1369
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,000
turning 33 in August of the 
still. 

1370
01:12:21,100 --> 01:12:23,900
I was hoping I was hoping we 
could avoid actually saying his 

1371
01:12:23,900 --> 01:12:25,600
real age. 
I thought it was just part of 

1372
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:29,100
the ad two years bed. 
I didn't even know he's legit, 

1373
01:12:29,100 --> 01:12:34,500
he is, he is actually is 
actually old as hell. 14 million

1374
01:12:34,500 --> 01:12:37,200
guaranteed for Adam thielen. 
Like, that's the worst contract 

1375
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,800
in the offseason, right? 
I don't think you can be dropped

1376
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,600
an atom dealing with with shark 
signing their like, but the 

1377
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:47,000
thesis that you had for thielen,
now, just goes to Charcoal. 

1378
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:51,000
Like he's the guy that will have
a chance to emerge as like a 

1379
01:12:51,008 --> 01:12:55,400
true Alpha there. 
I think Yeah and I think Terris 

1380
01:12:55,800 --> 01:13:00,400
unless interested like 20th 
round Terrace Marshall sure but 

1381
01:13:01,100 --> 01:13:03,800
like his path now to being on 
the field and to wide receiver 

1382
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:05,800
sets. 
Isn't that clear? 

1383
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:09,000
And also like his talent is not 
that clear so that just seems 

1384
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,600
like what are we doing? 
I guess I like shark. 

1385
01:13:11,700 --> 01:13:14,700
I like charcoal and I think 
Hayden Hurst is like pretty 

1386
01:13:14,700 --> 01:13:17,800
locked in for a good tight end 
role there and it's gross like 

1387
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,500
he's not that good but it's a 
gross position. 

1388
01:13:20,500 --> 01:13:23,000
He's going to be running routes,
he's going to be out there. 

1389
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:24,600
I'll be Careful with Hayden 
Hurst. 

1390
01:13:24,700 --> 01:13:27,500
Who remember with the Colts? 
These guys rotated. 

1391
01:13:27,500 --> 01:13:31,200
Their tight ends non-stop so and
hearse is not good. 

1392
01:13:32,100 --> 01:13:33,200
Okay. 
Yeah, that's true. 

1393
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:37,000
They could dress if but if they 
don't draft one of these top 

1394
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:40,000
guys, I don't know who else is 
there you and Thomas? 

1395
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,700
Like I guess my point is like as
of right now it looks good. 

1396
01:13:43,700 --> 01:13:46,000
But but you're right, they can 
easily add someone the draft, I 

1397
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:50,500
mean, but they were playing like
Jack Doyle and who's the caelum 

1398
01:13:50,500 --> 01:13:53,600
granson? 
Like they were just like they'll

1399
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:58,700
find guys to rotate, I don't I'm
very we don't we don't feel 

1400
01:13:58,700 --> 01:13:59,900
great about the quarterback 
play. 

1401
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,100
They'll literally every week 
about the play tends to rotate. 

1402
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:09,100
Yeah, I think hearse is a trap. 
All right, I agree. 

1403
01:14:09,100 --> 01:14:12,400
I agree. 
It's a trap Counterpoint 2013, 

1404
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,000
13 million guarantee that 
signing fraida nursed. 

1405
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,400
That's, that's the only 
Counterpoint, but I don't wanna 

1406
01:14:17,500 --> 01:14:19,700
but all I wanna. 
But again, I mean, crane is 

1407
01:14:19,700 --> 01:14:22,100
crane is the king of making this
point tight ends, can get paid 

1408
01:14:22,100 --> 01:14:26,100
for a lot of reasons, tight end,
like you just, you know, it's 

1409
01:14:26,100 --> 01:14:28,500
hard position to play. 
It does not always translate 

1410
01:14:28,500 --> 01:14:36,600
into what we wanted for fantasy.
Yeah, I mean again, like I agree

1411
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,800
with the rotation point. 
The bangle is kind of like, had 

1412
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,000
a rotation at tight end for a 
lot of years and then Hearst 

1413
01:14:42,100 --> 01:14:46,000
plays there last year and he's 
the guy, I think some NFL teams 

1414
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:50,300
view him as like the time, then 
you can give 80% snap ready to. 

1415
01:14:51,300 --> 01:14:52,500
We'll see if it works out 
Carolina. 

1416
01:14:52,500 --> 01:14:55,300
You dummies a lot of snaps for 
them, he just didn't he just 

1417
01:14:55,300 --> 01:14:56,800
wasn't good. 
Yeah. 

1418
01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:00,300
But they they had a role that he
stepped into it was just he was 

1419
01:15:00,300 --> 01:15:02,900
just as he is. 
Ian Thomas still on the team. 

1420
01:15:04,700 --> 01:15:08,400
I don't know, he might not be 
because in class here was his 

1421
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:14,600
fourth year. 
I mean that's that's definitely 

1422
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,800
no no I think he's a little 
older so he resided. 

1423
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:21,700
Yeah, he's he's locked in 
actually, he's got it's not 

1424
01:15:21,700 --> 01:15:23,800
locked in, they could cut him 
but he's humming. 

1425
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,600
I mean turnable Tommy tremble. 
In the end time is here to shit 

1426
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,500
all over Sams, Sams had no Tommy
tremble. 

1427
01:15:29,500 --> 01:15:32,200
Tommy tremble, is exactly the 
type of guy they will rotate in 

1428
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,100
it needs you might as well call 
him. 

1429
01:15:34,100 --> 01:15:37,200
You might We'll call them Kyla 
Woods you know he literally he's

1430
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:40,500
literally you know gilani 
granson like that dude he's 

1431
01:15:40,500 --> 01:15:43,300
there. 
He's there to play any grants 

1432
01:15:43,300 --> 01:15:45,200
them. 
It's so good. 

1433
01:15:45,700 --> 01:15:49,600
He's there to play 27% of the 
snaps run just enough routes 

1434
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,800
that you have to like like think
about a minimum salary, every 

1435
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,300
weekend DFS. 
And he gets six catches all 

1436
01:15:55,300 --> 01:15:59,900
year. 
Yeah, the cold stuff was so 

1437
01:15:59,900 --> 01:16:02,900
triggering last year on statues 
and we were tracking the tight 

1438
01:16:02,900 --> 01:16:05,500
end, snaps and routes. 
And was like, oh, Wow, like Moe,

1439
01:16:05,500 --> 01:16:07,600
Ali Cox had a huge role this 
week, like maybe you should 

1440
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,500
consider adding him next week. 
Like he played the complete a 

1441
01:16:10,500 --> 01:16:12,500
it's because it's completely 
random. 

1442
01:16:12,700 --> 01:16:16,400
Yeah, they do a lot of bullshit.
So but that's that's like pretty

1443
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,000
consistent. 
It's obviously, you know, if 

1444
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:19,900
they had like Gronk, they'd stop
doing that. 

1445
01:16:19,900 --> 01:16:23,400
But like, coaches have kind of 
systems that way. 

1446
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:27,000
And I I would just assume my 
assumption would be that they 

1447
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,600
will continue doing that stuff. 
And havenhurst is not like the 

1448
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,400
level of talent where they would
change. 

1449
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,000
Yeah, like Phil Jackson, Phil 
Jackson signed the shittiest 

1450
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:35,600
dumbest. 
Point guards he could for like 

1451
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,700
30 years because he just was 
trying to replicate having 

1452
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,300
Michael Jordan like that. 
This is this and with like 

1453
01:16:42,300 --> 01:16:45,500
that's the same same Vibe fair 
enough. 

1454
01:16:45,500 --> 01:16:47,600
I mean, he's versus Derek 
Fisher. 

1455
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:53,900
He's up pick to right now. 
He's a pic 200 right now. 

1456
01:16:53,900 --> 01:16:57,000
So like if you're finding tight 
ends in that range that are 

1457
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,600
guaranteed for huge rolls. 
Let me know. 

1458
01:16:59,900 --> 01:17:02,800
I haven't found anyone passed 
their that federally projects 

1459
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,800
for that contingent value. 
If Tommy tremble gets injured 

1460
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,200
though, I mean Chris Chris man 
hurts is gone. 

1461
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,100
Right Chris man inside somewhere
else. 

1462
01:17:10,100 --> 01:17:13,300
Yeah. 
Obvious Rumble God. 

1463
01:17:13,300 --> 01:17:17,500
We're sick. 
What do we got? 

1464
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:23,200
Oh, I just I again I again 
wanted to I wanted to bring this

1465
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,500
up on Tampa Bay because again, I
need to continue to push the 

1466
01:17:26,500 --> 01:17:33,500
baker Mayfield thing, but I just
I've not heard a single person 

1467
01:17:33,500 --> 01:17:38,100
in the fantasy world talk about 
this what happens to Buccaneers 

1468
01:17:38,100 --> 01:17:41,800
pass catchers, if one of God 
winner Evans gets traded. 

1469
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:49,400
I have I have I have that 
thought in a draft and it led me

1470
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:53,700
to select my Kevin's because I 
was like he gets traded or 

1471
01:17:53,700 --> 01:17:57,900
Godwin gets traded and like 
Baker maybe he just dials into 

1472
01:17:57,900 --> 01:18:01,100
Mike Evans and runs around a 
Chuck's a deep like I could see 

1473
01:18:01,100 --> 01:18:04,500
it. 
Yeah. 

1474
01:18:04,700 --> 01:18:11,700
Yeah II mean Baker Evans is 
probably the better fit for 

1475
01:18:11,700 --> 01:18:14,400
Baker because he's like, you 
know, he's not like a technician

1476
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,900
type like you got to hit him 
over the middle like that was 

1477
01:18:16,900 --> 01:18:19,400
the deal. 
When Odell's dad made the video 

1478
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,900
is like Odell still running all 
these good routes and Baker just

1479
01:18:21,900 --> 01:18:24,400
not for owing to him, right? 
Yeah. 

1480
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,100
That's that's why I like Evans 
more. 

1481
01:18:26,100 --> 01:18:30,300
Because if he's with Baker, he 
can probably survive at work. 

1482
01:18:30,300 --> 01:18:33,800
God when I'm like, terrified of 
a baker offense and God. 

1483
01:18:33,900 --> 01:18:36,400
One. 
And then obviously, if either 

1484
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,200
guy gets traded, you're pretty 
excited. 

1485
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,100
So I don't necessarily know who 
depend on landing spot. 

1486
01:18:41,100 --> 01:18:43,000
Obviously, at that point. 
So I don't know that, like 

1487
01:18:43,300 --> 01:18:46,500
Evans, Our God one has like a 
better chance of getting traded.

1488
01:18:46,500 --> 01:18:49,800
Where would you say maybe Evans 
contract was probably has a 

1489
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:51,900
slightly better chance. 
I was gonna say cuz Evans has 

1490
01:18:51,900 --> 01:18:54,300
just one year left on his 
contract, right? 

1491
01:18:54,900 --> 01:18:58,600
Whereas I think God, I think God
when signed an extension so it's

1492
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:02,300
easier for Evans to renegotiate.
And clearly there's lots of 

1493
01:19:02,300 --> 01:19:05,800
thirst out there for World wide 
receivers because we keep 

1494
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:09,000
getting hit over the head with 
these DeAndre Hopkins. 

1495
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,500
Trade request story. 
So there's there's clearly a 

1496
01:19:11,500 --> 01:19:14,400
thirst out there. 
Would you trade for? 

1497
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:18,000
Like, I think I would rather 
trade for a year of Mike Evans 

1498
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,200
because you probably not even 
having to give up that much then

1499
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:22,500
Hopkins. 
No no. 

1500
01:19:22,500 --> 01:19:25,900
Because Hopkins is so good. 
Mike Evans is very good. 

1501
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:27,900
He's never not had 1,000-yard 
season. 

1502
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,700
I'm a little, I'm a little 
worried that Evans has regressed

1503
01:19:31,700 --> 01:19:34,700
in the skill Department. 
Whereas Hopkins didn't really 

1504
01:19:34,700 --> 01:19:36,500
show any skill regression last 
year. 

1505
01:19:36,500 --> 01:19:39,300
Although he did years ago, he 
did two years ago, yeah. 

1506
01:19:39,500 --> 01:19:42,400
Yeah. 
And I think Evans offers you 

1507
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:45,600
some more down fit like Evans 
what he offers you deep down 

1508
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:50,600
field is probably been covered 
up a little bit by Tom Brady my 

1509
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:55,700
childhood, my Tom's arm 14 .18. 
I last year like he's still the 

1510
01:19:55,700 --> 01:19:58,300
same Mike Evans but it's just 
that Tom Brady wasn't really 

1511
01:19:58,300 --> 01:20:02,900
throwing it deep all that much. 
I could buy that. 

1512
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:10,200
Yeah, I think that's reasonable 
Evans has one year left, but 

1513
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:15,200
it's 21 million and dead money. 
If he's Cut. 

1514
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,900
So does that also mean that like
even if he's traded that money 

1515
01:20:17,900 --> 01:20:20,000
is on their books, unless 
another team would be used to 

1516
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:25,500
like, hey, that I'm so done 
trying to understand the NFL 

1517
01:20:25,500 --> 01:20:28,000
rules for all this shit, to be 
honest with you, it's like it 

1518
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:32,400
feels like it's so arbitrary. 
You have doesn't trade rules. 

1519
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,300
I'm lost on the trails. 
I understand what happens if you

1520
01:20:35,300 --> 01:20:36,700
cut the guy and there's dead 
money. 

1521
01:20:36,700 --> 01:20:39,600
But once you trade guys, it 
seems to all go bad. 

1522
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:43,000
If there's not a calm on over 
the cap for what happens if he 

1523
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:44,800
gets traded. 
Then I then I don't understand 

1524
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:47,500
what any shouldn't there. 
Be Jason, what's up, man? 

1525
01:20:47,500 --> 01:20:51,000
We don't get the hot, we need 
some help. 

1526
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:57,000
Let's unless I think we've moved
past the, the team stuff. 

1527
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:00,700
For now, we've hit on a lot of 
teams. 

1528
01:21:00,900 --> 01:21:04,200
I want to show the positional 
stuff quickly to round out the 

1529
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:08,200
charts this week. 
We do have the running back 32 

1530
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:11,400
fours. 
Moving up kind of noticeably 

1531
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,600
this week, I think that's a lot 
of the free agents that we just 

1532
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,200
talk through. 
I think they were artificially 

1533
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:18,200
cheap because people didn't know
where these guys are going to 

1534
01:21:18,208 --> 01:21:20,900
get signed. 
But we did see sort of like that

1535
01:21:20,900 --> 01:21:22,800
second grouping of running 
backs. 

1536
01:21:22,900 --> 01:21:27,600
Move up this past week and wide 
receivers continue to move up 

1537
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:33,300
every single week. 
Trying to figure out who did 

1538
01:21:33,300 --> 01:21:37,700
this. 
But why not this one album? 

1539
01:21:37,700 --> 01:21:42,100
Guys, I have her running backs. 
It's terrible, it's terrible. 

1540
01:21:42,100 --> 01:21:43,900
Yeah. 
Don't you, do you think there 

1541
01:21:43,900 --> 01:21:46,500
will be a bit of a reversal for 
this, though? 

1542
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:50,900
Not before the Big Board ends? 
No, no, no. 

1543
01:21:50,900 --> 01:21:52,500
I agree. 
I agree with that. 

1544
01:21:52,700 --> 01:21:56,000
But, yes, I do think that in 
July and August, it will not be 

1545
01:21:56,000 --> 01:22:01,000
like this. 
Yeah, and if you look at like, I

1546
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:05,000
think Hayden made the point 
better than I can make it but 

1547
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,500
like the running backs I kind of
see why they're falling because 

1548
01:22:08,500 --> 01:22:12,800
it's a ton of older guys. 
It's a lot of guys like in 

1549
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,500
situations that don't feel good 
or like unpredictable 

1550
01:22:15,500 --> 01:22:19,100
situations, but running backs 
are still gonna score points in 

1551
01:22:19,100 --> 01:22:21,300
fantasy this year. 
I don't think the NFL is like, 

1552
01:22:21,300 --> 01:22:24,200
legislated them out of the game 
as far as I know. 

1553
01:22:24,700 --> 01:22:30,200
So yeah, I don't know. 
There's gonna be Good values can

1554
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:35,700
hated basically called a stupid.
He was like he was like he was 

1555
01:22:35,700 --> 01:22:38,700
like, basically you guys are 
drafting these these dipshit 

1556
01:22:38,700 --> 01:22:41,600
wide receivers who have no 
upside, no contingent value. 

1557
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,100
You're just dropping them to 
draft them and you got your 

1558
01:22:44,100 --> 01:22:46,300
fundamentally misunderstanding 
that yeah. 

1559
01:22:46,300 --> 01:22:48,500
Running backs are going to 
project for Less points and 

1560
01:22:48,500 --> 01:22:49,600
they're they're a little bit 
less. 

1561
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,800
They're actually just as 
volatile because their 

1562
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:56,100
projection changes, so much with
injury, you know, whoever the 

1563
01:22:56,100 --> 01:22:58,100
whoever the fifth running back 
on the Denver Broncos. 

1564
01:22:58,300 --> 01:23:00,800
Causes could be who you need in 
the fantasy football. 

1565
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,600
Playoffs have enough, dudes, 
just get leveled off by 

1566
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,500
injuries. 
You know, you don't have to be 

1567
01:23:06,500 --> 01:23:11,600
drafted and best ball but well 
okay Michael Carter on the Jets.

1568
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,200
He what's he doing? 
What's he right now? 

1569
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:16,800
Like 200 ATP overall, something 
like that. 

1570
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:18,800
Yeah, even lower 240. 
Probably I don't. 

1571
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:20,400
Ya Mike, Mike, Mike Michael 
Carr. 

1572
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,700
You I don't even have to squint 
that hard for like, oh briefs 

1573
01:23:24,100 --> 01:23:25,700
hamstring right when he comes 
back. 

1574
01:23:25,700 --> 01:23:28,100
He's not ready. 
Whoever they drop suck. 

1575
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,400
Or they sign Z. 
Like I don't even I don't even 

1576
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:33,500
have to work that hard just to 
see Michael Carter is the guy 

1577
01:23:33,500 --> 01:23:35,800
you need in week 17? 
Yeah. 

1578
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,700
But I think the yeah, there's 
some definitely some ways to 

1579
01:23:38,708 --> 01:23:41,600
play it where you're drafting 
running backs like earlier than 

1580
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:43,500
I tend to and I'm drafting a lot
of. 

1581
01:23:43,900 --> 01:23:46,900
I'm drafting more running backs 
early in this environment than I

1582
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:50,100
otherwise would because I'm 
getting values. 

1583
01:23:50,100 --> 01:23:53,300
But I don't let love about you 
even sang. 

1584
01:23:53,300 --> 01:23:56,700
Take them late. 
Oh, he's saying take him to the 

1585
01:23:56,700 --> 01:23:58,900
end of drafts. 
He was, he was Remember what he 

1586
01:23:58,900 --> 01:24:02,400
was saying was like the ship 
Chasers do these, these nine 

1587
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:05,500
wide receiver builds and then 
they never get a contributed 

1588
01:24:05,500 --> 01:24:07,700
point and they leave. 
All these contingent value 

1589
01:24:07,700 --> 01:24:09,900
running backs. 
Like how, like, how, how, many 

1590
01:24:09,900 --> 01:24:13,700
leaks was, semaj perine taken 
and best Ball Mania, three last 

1591
01:24:13,700 --> 01:24:14,700
year. 
Like something like keeps 

1592
01:24:14,700 --> 01:24:18,700
draftin, like, 25%, or something
like that, that type of guy 

1593
01:24:18,700 --> 01:24:22,700
should be 100%, drafted type 
guy, that's fair. 

1594
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:26,400
I actually do think that this 
draft environment makes your 

1595
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:30,900
running back like harder to To 
pull off because you're, you're 

1596
01:24:31,900 --> 01:24:34,300
passing on like some awesome 
running back values. 

1597
01:24:34,300 --> 01:24:38,800
I think in like yeah two and 
three that are guys who were 

1598
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,200
typically, especially round 
three, I think round three is 

1599
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:44,300
loaded with guys who I'm used to
having to take in the second 

1600
01:24:44,300 --> 01:24:46,800
round. 
That profile feels like a second

1601
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,500
round running back profile by 
the market that I'm getting in 

1602
01:24:49,500 --> 01:24:52,900
round 3 and so I'm having 
trouble passing on those guys 

1603
01:24:54,900 --> 01:24:57,000
and then like to hate and hate 
his ideas. 

1604
01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:00,300
Like maybe you only grab one Or 
you grab zero guys and then you 

1605
01:25:00,300 --> 01:25:03,900
stopped taking wide receiver, 
you know, after like six or 

1606
01:25:03,900 --> 01:25:07,500
seven instead of going to like 
eight or nine, Liam is Leah. 

1607
01:25:07,500 --> 01:25:11,400
Murphy is also talked about this
idea, which I think is 

1608
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:14,400
interesting. 
But I've, I'm actually more 

1609
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:17,500
going like, you know, two 
running backs in the first six 

1610
01:25:17,500 --> 01:25:20,400
rounds because I think it's like
way more viable than it usually 

1611
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,700
feels like it is. 
Yeah, I think those are both 

1612
01:25:22,700 --> 01:25:24,400
viable. 
But yeah, I do think like the, 

1613
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:27,400
the wide receiver. 
Volatility thing is something 

1614
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:29,800
that a couple years. 
Ago was like a little overplayed

1615
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:33,100
and I think in half PPR, it's 
actually not true. 

1616
01:25:33,100 --> 01:25:35,800
That wide receivers are the more
volatile position than running 

1617
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:37,400
back? 
I think that was idea, you need 

1618
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:39,000
a bunch of water. 
Severs are going to ping, pong 

1619
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:42,700
weeks, need a bunch bum. 
I think, PPR definitely true 

1620
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,900
happy, PR hidden Sons to work 
the past couple years that that 

1621
01:25:46,100 --> 01:25:50,000
volatility case is not really. 
There are four wide receivers 

1622
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,300
running back. 
So I do really like the idea 

1623
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:55,600
that hidden has of like the same
way we think about, you know, 

1624
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,800
you get to Anchored running 
backs, you probably Lee just 

1625
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,900
need 45. 
Like if you start, you know, 

1626
01:26:01,900 --> 01:26:06,800
Cooper cup, Chris olave Debo 
Samuel or whatever, like hold 

1627
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,800
off on the wide receivers. 
Like those guys, well, I 

1628
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:12,500
wouldn't hold off at that point.
I would take I would take, you 

1629
01:26:12,500 --> 01:26:16,000
know, three more and then maybe 
you're done sure that's what I 

1630
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:17,300
mean. 
Like, hold off on the, on the 

1631
01:26:17,300 --> 01:26:19,400
total quantity. 
Like I've seen a lot of people, 

1632
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:22,200
they start like super water, 
super heavy and they still have 

1633
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:27,700
like nine wide receivers like I 
would not 100% is diminishing. 

1634
01:26:27,700 --> 01:26:29,900
Return was right? 
Yeah, that's what it is. 

1635
01:26:30,500 --> 01:26:32,900
Yeah. 
And I think one way to think 

1636
01:26:32,900 --> 01:26:36,700
about this, he also made another
good point about the scoring, 

1637
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:40,300
you know, like 36, what like 
like Justin Jefferson's 11 

1638
01:26:40,300 --> 01:26:43,000
points in a bad week or still 
probably making your lineup 

1639
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:45,800
because of the way the scoring 
works, you know, they're more 

1640
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:47,900
wide receiver points are 
required. 

1641
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:52,100
Whereas, like, if you have three
high-scoring running backs, like

1642
01:26:52,100 --> 01:26:56,400
maybe the nine points that Zeke 
gets Isn't isn't making it into 

1643
01:26:56,400 --> 01:27:00,400
you're actually gaining points 
by losing the roster spot. 

1644
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:02,700
If that maybe I'm not, I don't 
think I explained that the way. 

1645
01:27:02,700 --> 01:27:05,400
Hey, I see what you're saying. 
He's much smarter than me but 

1646
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:11,400
like the the added value of 
higher running back points is 

1647
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:13,600
more because of the way the 
roster spots shake out. 

1648
01:27:13,700 --> 01:27:15,200
I think it's the way you 
explained it. 

1649
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:16,700
I don't know. 
Maybe I'm a dumbass and I 

1650
01:27:16,700 --> 01:27:24,300
misunderstood him. 
Yeah, well now I'm confused. 

1651
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:30,100
Well I so I think I think with 
argument is and Beach maybe some

1652
01:27:30,100 --> 01:27:33,100
have him back on the show to 
explain this to us but we need 

1653
01:27:33,100 --> 01:27:36,100
we need Jason Fitzgerald and 
Hayden on the show, tell us tell

1654
01:27:36,100 --> 01:27:39,100
us how this works. 
Essentially you're going to 

1655
01:27:39,100 --> 01:27:41,600
start three wide receivers 
probably more in the flag so 

1656
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:44,800
that means the replacement level
wide receiver is anything from 

1657
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,700
the water seabird. 36. 
The wide receiver 48. 

1658
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:50,500
So that's a lot of what this is.
A lot of water. 

1659
01:27:50,500 --> 01:27:52,800
This is yes, right. 
This is owed. 

1660
01:27:53,100 --> 01:27:55,400
Justin Jefferson's eight, sir. 
Nine point. 

1661
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:57,700
I think Hayden's threshold for 
the replacement level wide 

1662
01:27:57,700 --> 01:27:59,100
receivers only like eight 
points. 

1663
01:27:59,100 --> 01:28:00,400
That's just a shit ton of wide 
receiver. 

1664
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,500
So you may be like Justin 
Jefferson's nine points like I 

1665
01:28:03,500 --> 01:28:06,500
wish I had someone else, like 
that's not going to matter for 

1666
01:28:06,500 --> 01:28:09,000
me that actually like counts in 
your life ever. 

1667
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,100
He needs to do last to slot into
your lineup. 

1668
01:28:11,300 --> 01:28:13,300
Yes. 
And that actually makes them 

1669
01:28:13,300 --> 01:28:16,400
less volatile but it makes 
sense. 

1670
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:18,800
It makes that Elite receiver 
even more valuable because he's 

1671
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:22,900
hitting your lineup even in his 
bad weeks and then He's crushing

1672
01:28:22,900 --> 01:28:26,800
it for you in his great weeks 
and then you need to find less 

1673
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:28,900
points at the running back 
position because you only have 

1674
01:28:28,900 --> 01:28:31,000
two spots to fill. 
Yeah. 

1675
01:28:31,300 --> 01:28:33,400
And you should check out head 
and hands are glad I think you 

1676
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:35,900
touched on this in the show last
week, but he also showed that 

1677
01:28:35,900 --> 01:28:40,000
like he counted the number of 
points above replacement, like 

1678
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:44,100
how many times does say the. 
Say the waters you replacement 

1679
01:28:44,100 --> 01:28:48,100
level is 8 points per week. 
How many times did a wide 

1680
01:28:48,100 --> 01:28:51,800
receiver last year get 20 points
above that replacement level? 

1681
01:28:52,300 --> 01:28:57,000
And he actually showed that 
relative to running backs wide 

1682
01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:00,000
receivers are actually providing
like less spikes above that 

1683
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:01,400
replacement level than running 
backs. 

1684
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:03,900
Are I think that was just a one 
year thing and like certainly 

1685
01:29:03,900 --> 01:29:05,200
worth. 
I think it'd be super 

1686
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:09,600
interesting research to like go 
back 10 years of data and see 

1687
01:29:09,900 --> 01:29:12,100
how this works. 
But we actually have hidden in 

1688
01:29:12,100 --> 01:29:15,800
the chat now. 
Alright, so yeah. 

1689
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:19,400
Hopefully we didn't completely 
butcher your point but it is I 

1690
01:29:19,407 --> 01:29:22,000
think we got there. 
I think I think we got there. 

1691
01:29:22,100 --> 01:29:24,400
There. 
But we just I mean I just I just

1692
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:28,300
like 80 I queued my way there 
and then say I'm saved me. 

1693
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:31,700
So tune into ATP. 
Chasing will be just really 

1694
01:29:31,700 --> 01:29:34,000
brutally but Roofing Works 
analysis. 

1695
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:37,500
Will just be recapping his free 
Underdog articles for an hour. 

1696
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:42,800
There's any other research-based
articles you'd like us to 

1697
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:46,600
Butcher and then finally. 
Yeah, please let us know. 

1698
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:48,500
Yeah. 
All right. 

1699
01:29:48,500 --> 01:29:50,700
This feels like a good time to 
land the plane here. 

1700
01:29:50,700 --> 01:29:53,600
Let's Let's talk our favorite 
values. 

1701
01:29:55,100 --> 01:29:57,900
Pat, you want to start us off? 
You got a favorite favorite 

1702
01:29:57,900 --> 01:30:00,200
value and we're also let me 
before Packo's. 

1703
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:04,300
We're we're going to put a 
little bit of steaks on this. 

1704
01:30:04,500 --> 01:30:07,700
I think we agreed be a Discord. 
We're going to be splitting a 

1705
01:30:07,700 --> 01:30:10,400
higher Stakes Underdog team, at 
some point, like one of the 

1706
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:13,300
Bulldogs, whatever, they'll do 
like a five hundred dollar one 

1707
01:30:13,300 --> 01:30:14,600
or whatever. 
Yeah. 

1708
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:19,800
And we're going to track all 
these takes and whoever does the

1709
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:22,000
best in terms of getting closing
line value. 

1710
01:30:22,100 --> 01:30:24,700
On these takes will be free 
rolled in that tournament. 

1711
01:30:24,700 --> 01:30:27,200
Other two of us will sort of 
split it. 

1712
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:30,400
So you guys are already drawing 
dead though because I got two of

1713
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:34,000
the best values in closing line 
value. 

1714
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:39,200
Not, what happens? 
Yeah, no, yeah, buddy. 

1715
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:42,100
We don't, we don't care. 
We can't control for the 

1716
01:30:42,100 --> 01:30:43,900
results. 
Once the pig skin starts flying 

1717
01:30:43,900 --> 01:30:46,100
around the yard, we can only 
predict what our fellow nerds 

1718
01:30:46,100 --> 01:30:48,500
are gonna do. 
Yeah, we got it. 

1719
01:30:48,500 --> 01:30:54,800
We're doing the results. 
Well, you the way I Patrick 

1720
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:58,100
right now, so I just want to say
that. 

1721
01:30:58,700 --> 01:31:03,400
All right, Pat, what do we got? 
Favorite value? 

1722
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,500
Well, I picked one that's not 
going to have much clothing line

1723
01:31:06,500 --> 01:31:09,900
value, but I'm still going to do
it. 

1724
01:31:09,900 --> 01:31:12,400
Still going to do it because, 
you know, you know what, let me 

1725
01:31:12,500 --> 01:31:15,500
we're also doing a don't, they 
were doing persistence percent 

1726
01:31:15,500 --> 01:31:18,600
increase of closing line value. 
So if you want to pick a guy 

1727
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:22,200
higher up, you can still get 
upside there like Pollard Rises 

1728
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:24,900
five spots, that could be 
equivalent to Penny Rising 40 

1729
01:31:24,900 --> 01:31:25,700
spots. 
You know what I mean? 

1730
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:28,500
Davis, you got one, I can start.
Yes. 

1731
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,200
Yeah, I got one, I will go with 
Damien. 

1732
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:36,300
Harris at running back 42, pick 
140, overall he is going to be a

1733
01:31:36,300 --> 01:31:39,500
top 100 pick. 
By the time, it's all over. 

1734
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:42,200
I proposed. 
By the way. 

1735
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:45,600
If we if we get a Tim Patrick 
situation that it's got to be 

1736
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:48,100
thrown out right someone tears. 
Someone tears, their knee 

1737
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:50,600
injury. 
You get a pass for it. 

1738
01:31:51,300 --> 01:31:53,900
Or guy getting it. 
Oh, you're guy gets injured. 

1739
01:31:53,900 --> 01:31:56,700
I don't know man. 
This is football. 

1740
01:32:00,900 --> 01:32:03,300
We'll try to do a spreadsheet 
exercise here. 

1741
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,500
Let's make notes, I don't want 
to get into exceptions because 

1742
01:32:06,500 --> 01:32:09,200
then, like, what if I don't 
know, the starting running back 

1743
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:12,300
in a team tears ratio and then 
your guide launches 100 spots 

1744
01:32:12,300 --> 01:32:14,600
because of that jerk. 
Okay, fair enough, fair enough, 

1745
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:16,900
fair enough. 
Let the, you know, random dot 

1746
01:32:16,900 --> 01:32:18,500
will chips chips fall where they
may. 

1747
01:32:18,700 --> 01:32:22,400
Yeah, that's how I feel. 
I like I like the hairs one 

1748
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:25,800
though. 
I would cosine cosine that but I

1749
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:28,100
can't take it for this exercise 
Pratt. 

1750
01:32:28,100 --> 01:32:31,100
You got one. 
I'm just going to stick with my.

1751
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:32,600
You know what? 
Cause I'm here to help the 

1752
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:34,500
people. 
I'm not trying to like decide 

1753
01:32:34,500 --> 01:32:35,900
who has the paper Big Board 
draft. 

1754
01:32:35,900 --> 01:32:38,400
This isn't going to get you any 
closing line value, most likely.

1755
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:40,200
But I just think it's a very 
good pic fits with the 

1756
01:32:40,208 --> 01:32:42,500
discussion we had about trying 
to get some late running back 

1757
01:32:42,500 --> 01:32:45,200
upside on your roster. 
It's Jalen Warren. 

1758
01:32:45,700 --> 01:32:49,600
He is highly protected. 
By Nagi Harris is a really good 

1759
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:52,700
pick, that's good. 
Nothing's going to happen to 

1760
01:32:52,700 --> 01:32:55,000
this backfield, that's going to 
shake the shake it up. 

1761
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:59,300
Most likely I mean, who knows, 
you know, but he is, he is one 

1762
01:32:59,300 --> 01:33:02,200
of the more protected direct 
handcuffs and he is a direct 

1763
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:05,600
handcuffed and guess what, he's 
better than the starter Nagi 

1764
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:07,200
Harris. 
We talk about some gross running

1765
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:11,600
backs today. 
I don't think we've talked about

1766
01:33:11,700 --> 01:33:13,600
any wasn't get it doesn't get 
grocer. 

1767
01:33:14,100 --> 01:33:16,800
Yeah. 
Ezekiel Elliott higher in Russia

1768
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:19,800
has over expected per attempt, 
then Nagi Harris last year. 

1769
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:22,900
That's really incredible. 
Edible, it's unreal. 

1770
01:33:22,900 --> 01:33:25,600
It's yeah. 
David Montgomery also better. 

1771
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:27,900
Dalvin cook. 
We talked about getting cut 

1772
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:31,600
better. 
It's like there's really not 

1773
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:34,200
much threat here. 
From Harris, has a talent, it's 

1774
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:37,500
just the fact that, you know, 
it's like a sunk cost status 

1775
01:33:37,500 --> 01:33:39,700
quo, type of thing that he's got
to overcome. 

1776
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:44,700
But we saw with ch last year in 
his third season, that's when 

1777
01:33:44,700 --> 01:33:47,500
kind of the dam, broke on the 
coaches, being tied to him, 

1778
01:33:47,500 --> 01:33:49,100
they're like, you know what? 
We're sick of this. 

1779
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:51,000
We're just letting another guy, 
get a shot. 

1780
01:33:51,300 --> 01:33:53,300
And they already have that guy, 
they're in jail and Warren, he 

1781
01:33:53,300 --> 01:33:55,800
played pretty well last year. 
They seemed pretty impressed 

1782
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:58,800
with them. 
I sometimes tackle and Jalen 

1783
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:03,200
Warren to Pittsburgh Stacks 
because I feel like if Kenny 

1784
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:06,900
pickets, you know, going to take
a step, he needs the best guys 

1785
01:34:06,900 --> 01:34:09,800
out on the field. 
It's like we're what are the 

1786
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:11,600
scenarios in which this 
Pittsburgh offense is really 

1787
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:15,900
crushing to me. 
It's it warns out there so yeah 

1788
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,400
I like him a lot. 
He's gonna probably stick around

1789
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:21,000
this price but he will help you 
actually score points. 

1790
01:34:21,100 --> 01:34:24,900
Yes. 
Hello, like the Warren pick a 

1791
01:34:24,900 --> 01:34:26,200
lot. 
It's like the just the free 

1792
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:28,900
handcuffed that, for whatever 
reason, nobody seems to want 

1793
01:34:28,900 --> 01:34:30,900
right now and potential upside 
for more. 

1794
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:34,400
We even saw high-class. 
We'll probably, I think he will 

1795
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:36,300
probably increase in price 
though. 

1796
01:34:36,700 --> 01:34:43,700
Well, I will now I'm trying to 
heal. 

1797
01:34:44,900 --> 01:34:46,000
It's good. 
That was good. 

1798
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:52,700
That was a good start. 
Yeah, alright I mine you as well

1799
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:55,000
when with running backs. 
I'll go with the wide receiver a

1800
01:34:55,008 --> 01:34:57,100
little bit more challenging to 
get closing line value. 

1801
01:34:57,100 --> 01:34:59,000
So I'm gonna, you know, since 
I'm already so far ahead in this

1802
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:02,800
exercise, I'll take a risk here.
I'm gonna go with Darius. 

1803
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:05,300
Slayton wide receiver, the New 
York Giants. 

1804
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:08,900
He's at pick 202 right now, he's
cheaper. 

1805
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:14,500
And guys, like Isaiah Hodgins 
Rondell Robinson Paris, Campbell

1806
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:18,000
the Giants are building an 
entire offense out of slot 

1807
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:21,700
receivers and Darius Layton is 
the only way so that lie outside

1808
01:35:21,700 --> 01:35:23,800
body in their Waters. 
Even room that's going to play 

1809
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:26,600
outside. 
I think he's pretty locked into 

1810
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:29,700
T wide receiver sets where as 
you know, good luck guessing 

1811
01:35:29,700 --> 01:35:32,500
wandel Paris, Campbell Jamison, 
Crowder, Sterling. 

1812
01:35:32,500 --> 01:35:35,400
Shepherd, good luck guessing. 
Who's gonna play in the slot 

1813
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:37,000
amongst those guys. 
It's a disaster. 

1814
01:35:37,300 --> 01:35:38,800
Slade's the guy you've always 
wanted. 

1815
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:42,100
Until he breaks, right? 
It'll be it'll be one Dale until

1816
01:35:42,100 --> 01:35:46,500
he gets hurt and like week for 
yeah, maybe that's what I mean. 

1817
01:35:46,500 --> 01:35:48,800
He's been like Crowder on top of
everything else. 

1818
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,600
Crowder, when's the last time 
Jameson crowd are played in the 

1819
01:35:51,608 --> 01:35:55,300
NFL game for real like years. 
Two years ago. 

1820
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:57,600
It's wasn't it two years ago? 
No. 

1821
01:35:57,600 --> 01:35:59,100
Last year, he played a little 
bit. 

1822
01:35:59,500 --> 01:36:01,200
We couple first couple weeks. 
He played. 

1823
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:06,600
Hey I barely like he's on the 
bed. 

1824
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:08,400
Yeah he played. 
He played on the Bells. 

1825
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:11,500
Last year. 
Yeah. 

1826
01:36:12,100 --> 01:36:14,500
Anyways, it's a fucking mess of 
slot wide receivers. 

1827
01:36:15,100 --> 01:36:18,100
I guess if you want to compare 
Hodgins versus Layton, maybe 

1828
01:36:18,100 --> 01:36:20,400
Hodgins looks a little bit 
better and some of the, the 

1829
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:23,900
numbers last year, but they gave
him a grand, total of zero 

1830
01:36:23,900 --> 01:36:26,500
million dollars. 
Guaranteed, they gave Slayton 5 

1831
01:36:26,500 --> 01:36:28,900
million. 
I'm worried Hodgins gets gets 

1832
01:36:28,900 --> 01:36:32,100
cut at a price of 150. 
I don't know why you take the 

1833
01:36:32,100 --> 01:36:34,400
risk with, with Hodgins 
slayton's going to be on the 

1834
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:36,900
team and he's a full fifty two 
pics later. 

1835
01:36:36,900 --> 01:36:42,300
So I kind of like the giant 
stack to in terms of prize 

1836
01:36:42,300 --> 01:36:46,600
Daniel Jones, pick 100 tack on 
you know slate and maybe guess 

1837
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:49,500
at one of us like the slot guys,
at the end of your draft, and 

1838
01:36:49,500 --> 01:36:53,200
it's a pretty pretty cheap stack
that I think has some upside in 

1839
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:56,500
the day ball offense. 
So, Darius lightens my guy. 

1840
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:00,500
I like it. 
Cool. 

1841
01:37:00,500 --> 01:37:04,300
Yeah, I like that one. 
Awesome. 

1842
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:07,600
Well, that was another another 
great show guys. 

1843
01:37:08,500 --> 01:37:11,200
Pat, I know you got a lot of 
stuff going on for four. 

1844
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:15,300
Legendary upside. 
You got some new article out 

1845
01:37:15,300 --> 01:37:17,400
today on Bijan. 
Anything else you want to talk 

1846
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:18,800
about there? 
I do. 

1847
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:21,300
Yeah. 
So on Bijan that the Bijan 

1848
01:37:21,300 --> 01:37:23,700
sections completely free. 
Go sign up. 

1849
01:37:23,700 --> 01:37:29,300
I also have sections on jamort 
Jameer Gibbs and Zach charbonnet

1850
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,700
behind the pay wall. 
There's a 30-day trial so you 

1851
01:37:32,700 --> 01:37:36,900
can check that out if you want. 
Legendary upside.com, also $30 

1852
01:37:36,900 --> 01:37:40,700
off subscriptions right now via 
the early bird discount only $69

1853
01:37:40,700 --> 01:37:42,700
for the year. 
You can go that route if you 

1854
01:37:42,708 --> 01:37:45,900
prefer as well. 
Yeah, awesome stuff. 

1855
01:37:45,900 --> 01:37:49,600
And all this quickly give my 
perspective and legendary 

1856
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:54,000
offside, I love the podcast form
of your articles, I'm someone 

1857
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:57,100
who I just don't know if it's 
just my attention, spans 

1858
01:37:57,100 --> 01:37:58,800
completely collapsed last couple
years. 

1859
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:02,000
But I really struggle to read 
things, even people that put out

1860
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,200
really good work. 
People's whose Whose work I 

1861
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:06,700
really want to read. 
So the podcast feed for me just 

1862
01:38:06,700 --> 01:38:12,100
getting all of that info in 
audio form is super awesome and 

1863
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:16,400
really digestible so I put a 
strong strong stamp of approval 

1864
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,200
on that stuff. 
It's awesome work. 

1865
01:38:18,900 --> 01:38:20,200
Thank you. 
I am also broken. 

1866
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:23,200
I can only absorb things through
audio so those I was just hoping

1867
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:24,600
there was other people like me 
up there. 

1868
01:38:24,700 --> 01:38:26,000
You guys gotta train. 
You guys. 

1869
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:28,400
Gotta train your brain, bro. 
If you're not, if you're not 

1870
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:30,100
reading your brain, is literally
a trick being. 

1871
01:38:30,100 --> 01:38:32,200
It's like it's like not working 
out in your 30s. 

1872
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:33,800
You're literally ruining your 
Rain. 

1873
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:36,600
Yeah, but what if you're 
atrophied to the point where now

1874
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:40,400
you can't even do the thing, I 
am the most, I am so much more 

1875
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:43,100
of a broken brain than any of 
you guys and I still read every 

1876
01:38:43,100 --> 01:38:46,300
single day. 
I don't think you are you like, 

1877
01:38:46,300 --> 01:38:48,800
read all these like, amazing 
books and you have the author's 

1878
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,100
on and talk to them. 
I feel like you're way less 

1879
01:38:51,100 --> 01:38:53,800
broken brain. 
No, dude, trust me try. 

1880
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:55,800
It's not, it's not pretty up 
there. 

1881
01:38:55,900 --> 01:38:58,000
What I will? 
I need another thing to say, 

1882
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:04,900
though, if you are a 2X podcast 
listener, Which I kind of get 

1883
01:39:04,900 --> 01:39:07,900
the feeling that Sam might be. 
Please tell me you're not. 

1884
01:39:07,900 --> 01:39:11,800
No, no, I'm a very strictly 1X 
guy Freeman. 

1885
01:39:11,900 --> 01:39:16,300
That's the reason you got 
Friedman fucking listens on like

1886
01:39:16,300 --> 01:39:18,700
3x. 
That's insane. 

1887
01:39:18,700 --> 01:39:21,000
I mean you can't even make out 
all the words. 

1888
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:23,900
I'm 3x like that. 
Like literally like people talk 

1889
01:39:23,900 --> 01:39:25,300
to passwords. 
Get chopped. 

1890
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:29,600
I can't I can't handle it man. 
I can't handle the idea that 

1891
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:31,700
people are going around. 
Just trying to like, download 

1892
01:39:31,700 --> 01:39:34,100
this information and to their 
brains, it's like, bro. 

1893
01:39:34,100 --> 01:39:35,800
That's literally what reading is
for. 

1894
01:39:35,900 --> 01:39:39,600
So I just get, I just get I get 
very triggered by the 2x 3x 

1895
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:43,100
podcast listeners. 
I'm a one point two five x guy. 

1896
01:39:43,100 --> 01:39:48,400
I've had a stretch where I was 
one point five but 1.25 it feels

1897
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:50,600
like someone's talking 
regularly. 

1898
01:39:51,100 --> 01:39:54,900
It just kind of like pitched up 
its pit stop it. 

1899
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:57,800
The silences are crunched a 
Little it just like someone's 

1900
01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:00,000
talking a little bit more. 
Engaged is honestly what it 

1901
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,000
sounds like, I just here's the 
thing. 

1902
01:40:02,100 --> 01:40:07,500
I me personally I can't imagine 
like listening to like a 

1903
01:40:07,500 --> 01:40:10,100
hardcore history episode on 
1.25. 

1904
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:13,200
You know what I mean? 
That be 1.25 all day. 

1905
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:16,600
Like you gotta go like you get 
like we can't like Ford and 

1906
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:19,000
Carlin episodes a year and 
you're trying to like race 

1907
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:22,000
through it, man. 
It's like I can't, that's not 

1908
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:24,200
what it is. 
It's just that I enjoy listening

1909
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:28,800
to it more because it's like 
Because you've at your feed your

1910
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:31,800
brain, dude, you have literally 
you're leaving New York. 

1911
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:33,100
I'm used to everybody talking 
fast. 

1912
01:40:33,100 --> 01:40:39,700
Come on man. 
Come on Fair. 

1913
01:40:39,700 --> 01:40:42,100
I mean maybe maybe that's true. 
Maybe it's maybe it's a 

1914
01:40:42,100 --> 01:40:43,400
geographic. 
I don't know. 

1915
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:46,200
Every time used to everyone and 
everyone in Missouri, just talks

1916
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:48,500
like they've coaching Nick Chubb
their entire life. 

1917
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:54,400
Ohio accent. 
That's fine. 

1918
01:40:54,900 --> 01:40:57,600
Davis, anything anything go. 
Going on for you. 

1919
01:40:57,700 --> 01:41:00,200
You want to usual stuff, Sports,
great families, football 

1920
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:12,600
podcast, take cast i-i'm. 
Yes, because I feel very, I 

1921
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:15,900
feel, I feel extremely 
passionate about this, like, 

1922
01:41:15,900 --> 01:41:20,500
like if, if anyone of my life 
listens to podcast too fast, I'm

1923
01:41:20,500 --> 01:41:24,000
like offended by it. 
But Dan in the comments here 

1924
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:26,300
pointed out, we had the exact 
same conversation last year. 

1925
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:29,100
That was with me, Davison Pete, 
and Ben. 

1926
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:31,800
This is with me Davidson Sam. 
It's a completely different 

1927
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:32,900
thing. 
It's really completely 

1928
01:41:32,900 --> 01:41:35,500
different. 
I don't, I Sam, and I are just 

1929
01:41:35,500 --> 01:41:37,300
getting, we're feeling each 
other up. 

1930
01:41:37,300 --> 01:41:39,600
I gotta know if he's a 2X 
podcast listener. 

1931
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:42,700
I like, that's all I wasn't 
poor. 2x podcast listener. 

1932
01:41:42,700 --> 01:41:44,600
I don't know. 
I'm kind of, actually, I don't 

1933
01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:46,100
like that. 
I'm afraid that I'm giving. 

1934
01:41:46,100 --> 01:41:47,700
Well, you're pretty. 
You're pretty, you're pretty 

1935
01:41:47,700 --> 01:41:49,600
analytical you're pretty 
database. 

1936
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:52,000
And that's like that's like 
Friedman's whole take is he's 

1937
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:54,100
like, I'm not trying to be 
entertained. 

1938
01:41:54,100 --> 01:41:56,000
I'm trying to, I'm trying to 
engage with it. 

1939
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:58,000
I'm trying. 
To get this information. 

1940
01:41:58,500 --> 01:42:01,300
Nice goal. 
You know, I'm trying to do it in

1941
01:42:01,300 --> 01:42:02,900
a way that makes it not 
entertained. 

1942
01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:06,100
Exactly. 
That's literally what he said. 

1943
01:42:06,100 --> 01:42:07,800
He's like, I'm not trying to 
have fun. 

1944
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:10,800
I'm trying to figure out who JJ,
Zachary sins, top 24. 

1945
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:12,600
And rookie drafts are. 
And I need to know. 

1946
01:42:18,300 --> 01:42:21,900
I will say for like four boring,
like when I've been in school 

1947
01:42:21,900 --> 01:42:24,400
and I'm, you know, taking my 
accounting class and I have to 

1948
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:27,800
watch a video that's to 3x. 
Speed easily because I don't 

1949
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:29,900
give a fuck. 
It's so boring but I'm doing 

1950
01:42:29,900 --> 01:42:36,200
this for for entertainment. 
So 1125, I do you think Hayden 

1951
01:42:36,500 --> 01:42:39,200
Hayden is 2x? 
Oh God Emily. 

1952
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:41,100
I like I couldn't be less 
shocked. 

1953
01:42:41,100 --> 01:42:42,900
I could not I could not 
possibly. 

1954
01:42:42,900 --> 01:42:45,700
If you said okay you got a name 
someone other than Friedman who 

1955
01:42:45,700 --> 01:42:49,000
you know who goes on to X. 
I like Hayden Hayden would have 

1956
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:51,400
been Hayden, would have been top
three people, I would have 

1957
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:54,700
guessed What is the, what is the
demos? 

1958
01:42:54,700 --> 01:42:56,300
It spreadsheet. 
Is that the correlation? 

1959
01:42:56,300 --> 01:42:59,700
It seems as if the correlation 
the correlation is the more into

1960
01:42:59,700 --> 01:43:02,600
spreadsheets you are the more 
likely you are to be because you

1961
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:06,700
are, you're viewing. 
The exercise not as like art or 

1962
01:43:06,700 --> 01:43:11,000
as like a collaborative 
discussion between podcaster an 

1963
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:13,800
audience, it's all about the 
information. 

1964
01:43:14,300 --> 01:43:15,900
So what is what is leonie doing 
that? 

1965
01:43:15,900 --> 01:43:18,200
Is you like running a chat GPT 
script? 

1966
01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:20,400
Like, take out the most 
important points and then listen

1967
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:22,100
to that. 
Unlike kind of the doctor put 

1968
01:43:22,100 --> 01:43:33,700
him under What do we think you 
listen to podcasts on to a Leo 

1969
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:39,100
man? 
I bet I bet Leone is 1x because 

1970
01:43:39,100 --> 01:43:42,300
he is going to feel the same way
I do which is that it will break

1971
01:43:42,300 --> 01:43:45,900
his brain too much to do it on 
because here's the thing. 

1972
01:43:45,900 --> 01:43:48,800
So I started he might be like 
kind of going, you know. 

1973
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:51,200
He just wants to hear some. 
Like he might not be trying to 

1974
01:43:51,208 --> 01:43:53,000
download. 
He has time in which he can. 

1975
01:43:53,300 --> 01:43:57,800
Or exactly. 
And he's all he's big into like 

1976
01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:01,700
the huberman like life 
optimization brain, health type 

1977
01:44:01,700 --> 01:44:04,500
stuff like I am. 
And if you told Andrew huberman,

1978
01:44:04,500 --> 01:44:07,200
you listen to his podcast on 2x 
he'd be like, get the fuck out, 

1979
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:08,500
dude. 
Like what are you trying to do 

1980
01:44:08,500 --> 01:44:11,600
to yourself? 
He's watching the film. 

1981
01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:16,600
Well, that explains why you like
Trey, sermon, you actually looks

1982
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:19,000
the same. 
I thought it was on point five 

1983
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:19,900
x. 
Like the rest of them. 

1984
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:25,500
This is regular filming. 
Same for same for same for Deus 

1985
01:44:25,500 --> 01:44:31,000
McBride. 
Also also in slow motion when 

1986
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:35,600
the bread Dwayne, I mean Deuces,
a good nickname, right? 

1987
01:44:35,900 --> 01:44:39,300
Yeah, same thing. 
All right, let's let's let's 

1988
01:44:39,300 --> 01:44:42,000
plan the plan. 
Your, this is some good, good 

1989
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:45,500
podcast speed. 
Talk will be with you next week,

1990
01:44:46,300 --> 01:44:50,400
I think the same three of us are
again, next Friday, you can 

1991
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:53,100
listen to us. 
In one point two five, one point

1992
01:44:53,200 --> 01:44:55,000
Five, listen that wherever you 
want? 

1993
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:56,900
Yeah, whatever you want. 
We won't judge. 

1994
01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:02,600
I will sue us. 
Davis will judge you, but you're

1995
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:03,900
welcome here at ATP. 
Chasing. 

1996
01:45:04,900 --> 01:45:08,400
It's been good stuff guys. 
We will see you all next week.