All right guys, we have our friend, our Roto Vis Brethren
Assad, regime, joining us tonight, his triumphant return
to the program. We are going to talk about some
of his sfb research. That of course, is Scott
Fishbowl. All of us are participating have
some pics under our belt, we can all get em.
MV /, Pat's Team, all that good stuff.
And then we will culminate the show with a puppy draft.
You guys can try to get in it with us, but we would prefer you
didn't peace. Friar home.
Oh, I need a hand job. Fix your side for Jamar.
All right, we got us on. We got Gretch.
We got Pat. We got a four, man.
We got the chat. Going.
Are we doing tonight, guys? Good, living the dream, man.
Welcomes on. Thanks for having me back.
Yeah, you know every every time you fly so close to the Sun,
we're never sure if we're ever going to actually going to be
able to have you back safely but we don't know what countries on
watch today. Papa New Guinea is because well
look I had asked before the show started if we could explain the
Australia beef and I don't even know if there is an explanation.
Oh yeah. You have to be there really?
You have to be in Australia or Rat.
The Oreo of the be there, you have to be origin of the beef.
It was during an FDC Playoff Challenge stream and like we
were getting we were getting, it was Leone and I were getting
like assaulted left, right? And Center over the juju, take
any went off that game against the Browns, that playoff game
against the Browns. And one, the one guy who for
some reason, I think of that, he just looked like a stereotypical
Australian Beach from the guy was surprised could afford.
They actually that's nice and its leading to more precisely,
very good. I shouldn't be is good.
The country itself, take it or leave it and I thought that's
good. I will say I did visit
Australian college and even as an ostrich, even as a college
kid, you know, pretty much down to eat whatever.
I was I wasn't impressed with the food wasn't impressed.
Sorry. No ships in the Barbie for young
fat. So, how sad, how did they pull?
How did they get you back writing on wrote a veggie, did
this Scott Fishbowl big deep dive?
All of us were, like, wandering around.
Like, we haven't looked at the scoring settings.
What's going on? Someone save us and then your
article dropped and we all felt pretty caught up but your last
article was December 27th. I'm looking here so it's been
way too long for you. Yeah, it's definitely been a
while just, you know, had some time finally out of school and
just able to have Time to write it down.
I really enjoyed the Fishbowl just because it's a unique
format. It's got some weird quirks and
definitely there's a lot of structural stuff that you can
actually do this year. The scoring was very, very
balanced. So you'll find kickers popping,
an optimal projections as well, which is it is what it is.
But, you know, just sort of dust it off because it still is a
little bit of points for first time scoring, which is a little
bit of like, say the best place kind of kind of stuff that that
start their thanks to Mike beers for, for making out.
Process of making a deep ocean of the same thing.
So, I was like, all right, Mike, it was very kind to let me use
it. So you're able to sort of see
exactly how Nuance the scoring is, unfortunately, it's very
quarterback heavyweight, very quarterback driven.
We can get back into that later in the piece but, you know, we
just, we just able to just having so much time done with
this sort of stuff, I just figured, you know, it's time to
just get back on, on, on the horse here and just try to write
something out. And let me tell you, it's Tough.
It's been a while. It's really hard to get back
when you haven't real. Well, yeah, yeah, grach coming
out. I'm sure that the first words
you wrote after, you know, being on your Hawaii trip, that was a
must have been hard. Me.
Yes sir it's nothing. I don't think so.
Let's let's pull up Pat's team first here because it's just
like I said, it, like made it not fun for.
I went to work before I pull this up, let's start with
putting T because I have a great story about my team.
It's a very fun team. So I chose the 102 I was super
super excited to get the To actually, I didn't pay attention
at all. When people ask me, right before
the Draft, what pick, I might have actually wanted.
You already know you already ruined my grades.
So this is all sorry. I think that but I forgot to
press go. That's all right, here we go.
Why I chose the one or two? When people ask me a couple of
people asked me. And before the draft, what I
wanted I actually said 105 because I was like I do
initially people into I thought I'd just take my homes around
and then I was like well you can get Kyler Lamar or I didn't
realize was third on reverse reverse.
Russell. So we or Herbert and then you
get the, the benefit the second and the third round. 105 seem
like the optimal choice at any rate.
I was stuck at 102. I took my home's comes back to
me at 211, Chase went a couple pics before me, I was kind of
bummed, those looking for Chase, but I have this choice between
Lance and pets. Ultimately decided to go, Lance
was surprised to see him still available in the third and even
late into the third and a lot of drafts.
And I do like drifting higher than what some people are going
to get some other rounds. Immediately went to this great
tool from Josh ADHD and said, Who has Mahomes in Lance do to
do to do to do to do first, I'm thinking, okay, my home's.
Let's go on top three and every draft, I don't see Lance going
in when I had looked at his data go and later than like 309 very
frequently. I'm like this is going to be
only like three or five teams. I see more teams that I'd like
to see first of all and one thing pops out our buddy, Pat
correct. Pat cranes Trail.
A its price is he had the 105 and he got Patrick Mahomes at
the 105. So first of all, I think that's
Ridiculous then he got trillions in the middle of the third.
So I'm you know, I'm like great this is awesome.
Pat gets not only Mahomes and Lance but also as Tamar Chase,
then it gets better. I come all the way back at the
311 George Kittles, gone pizzas gone.
I decide I'm gonna take Darren Waller, I'm gonna get mine tight
end, I gonna look at Pat's team to see where I'm going to beat
him now. Oh, he took Aaron Jones Lee, I
got the better do not pack slipped up.
He took a running back. I got a lead tight at Pat's mr.
Donnelly time. A lo and behold, two, three
hours later pop take their ball in the fifth round.
My first three picks our pets. First, third, and fifth pick.
And he's just adding, you are chasing Aaron Jones to this
team. I've done by, I just took
Gabriel Davis to Fantastic. That's what sleep at rude.
It's like I'm getting my guys that I like, but I'm just
getting them at, you know, ATP or whatever.
And then you get Pat just is getting a super team gifted.
So it's like, all right, I guess I can't post a screenshot of my
to I checked on him earlier the latest he's gone as 510.
Wow, I think I asked you what time.
So one other person had gotten them at 5:08 as well.
What do you got cooking up the elite tight end?
That was the thing. You would give it up but that
you still got it. I still got it.
No, it's a great feeling those. I mean, I've been there.
I remember last year. Everyone was like, I was in the
same spot. I got.
I got it. Like, kind of just hand it to me
and played out really nice and I Telling everyone I didn't really
do much. It was just like, very cool to
have the pics that you wanted to take come to you.
It's a good. Yeah, that's how it felt for me.
I'm like, yeah, I'd go. I was like, man.
I'd really like to get Judy or Bateman here but I really want
Gabe Davis. So I'm just going to take a
Davis, like, you know, kind of everything's fallen for me here.
I'm just going to take gave Davis, gives me that little
week, 17 correlation with Chase. You know, gotta play for that
week 17. I've got a winner and, and Then
I still got u t. So it is do you want to share
your little Alpha leak for the Scott Fishbowl playoffs?
You were looking at as far as correlation.
Yeah, yeah. So you know and we'll get back
to your team Hassan in a sec. I promised the best way to live
strategy for any League that you're doing is wait until
you're about seven rounds deep in the draft before.
You really understand the format that you're a mess, that always
optimal. So luckily, what I found, I
think, I mean, maybe this is just a bias, but it kind of
confirms what the way I'd already built my team but but
yeah, looking at the playoff structure because I had
remembered last year and previous years, it was kind of
like you know, basically you make the playoffs in the sort of
like these GPS that you got to win.
We this year, it's pretty different than what I remembered
previously is only 11 weeks in the regular season, half the
half of the entire field makes the playoffs.
And then So you're basically like just trying to stay out of
the bottom for week 11 12, start 3, 12 13 and 14. 150 teams are
going to get removed each week so you know will progressively
less teams that becomes a more higher percentage of the field
is getting getting bumped but still it's not even half the
field and then in week 15 you're basically in a double of where
you just need to finish in the top five. 40.
So like basically half the field gets removed in week, 15 and
then week 16 you have to finish top 30 in a 540 field and then
we 17 which is like five and a half percent or something.
And then week 17 you have to finish one and out of 30 which
is like three percent. So week, 16 and week 17 are kind
of small field GPS and you know in a sense have to win those
small Bill GPS and back weeks. But like I wouldn't worry about
any week 15 correlation because you're basically In like a
double up that you just need to finish in the top half.
Basically, there you go. Hassan has your draft been
going? Are you happy with this?
Yeah, I'm kind of okay with it. So I started with this, the
animal abuser open, right back, hurts lamb, and then and then
you go with. I okay, I came around asking for
a little bit of help in the, in the Discord, with, with, you
know, flipping between t Higgins and Javonte Williams.
And the AJ Brown was like, instant, And instant pick like
the guy at the end picking 112. He was able to double up on
Javonte and I think cam Akers and he let I mean, I was gonna
live cameras light anyway. I was like, oh, how do I you
know break structure go? You know, finally for the first
time in like six years, take like an R&B.
No, I'm not going to bed. Do you just circle back to his
dagger? It's like the thing.
How long have you been? I thought about it this morning.
Hurts in the back of the first and especially some of the ones
I've seen that, that didn't take too cubies, but then got Lance
at 3:02. So not your team Hassan.
But no, like, have you I didn't have a shot at Higgins or AJ
Brown. I mean, have you had an opinion
on that picking that late slot at 111 as you've gone through,
was that kind of annoying at the ones who turn out.
What do you feel like I actually was playing for the third round
reversal there, just because I knew that they would it was
heard around reversal. So I knew I wanted to do like a
double stack again, kind of like what about was saying is you
want to sort of double correlate or at least correlate, your line
has a little bit. And I was able to get, I was
flipping between DAC and Russ, and I was just like, you know,
the I'll take last year after cross and he was objectively
probably like one of the worst QB picks last season, and he's
kind of been a little over value.
So, I'm interested to see what? What The new situation in Denver
looks like right? Because like for years we've
been talking about Russ, being Unleashed by really don't know
if that's truly going to happen to where to where I'm gone for.
You got to get the Best Supporting Cast or whatever and
last year. So I'd like, you know, more try
something a little different and I just knew that I wanted to go
with deckhand, but lamb, like I think.
Lamb really does have a very good shot at leading the entire
vegan in receiving. And if I'm doing that I want to
make sure that I'm getting like an alpha Target hog and to bear
with my quarter. Because I really want those
things. Like wide receivers are very
devalued in this format, so if you're picking them early, you
want him. You were going to make taking a
stand on the guy who you think is going to really lead the
league in terms of targets. And you can see mom, having a
potential 32, 32 percent Target share and like the absolute tail
end of his outcome but he could probably get to 35 percent.
Right. So that's kind of what you're
playing for word lamb and that's why I was like, you know, I
double the cork, double correlation is sweet.
I'm happy to see you. Go QB Q, bi my read on this
score. Is that it is very key, be
heavy. Yeah, because there's so much
negatives for the for the work. The bad keep.
He's like you have to be actually like a good
quarterback. Able to complete passes in a
good offense. Yeah it's the rush of - it's
like last year. Yeah this is there's a lot of
guys in that like a cubic two-ish range that people are
just taking very happily who at best.
Can you 18 points at worst? Get you like - 3?
See Pete. How tilting is that to see like
Like Friedman got oh, it's already 12, you got Lance.
So he has, he has Allen landsat. But with landsat the 312, did
you see where some of these people were getting like, yes,
even heard that a tight band, like Jalen hurts.
The latest He Slipped was 211. There's a fucking files tweeted
how bad this is. Yeah, how would it like what how
is this happening trailing? But look, I'm mad at the guy who
got him at 5044, not take him in the fourth, but right, thank
you, right? So, I was originally signed up
for the Seattle live And when I took him, that was the latest
pick that 406. There you see about six down?
And I was like, I couldn't do it because I well I didn't know
when the live was kind of confused but I thought I might
be on one of these trips. I just got off of and so I
switch back to on slow draft. I saw that and I was like, well
guess I messed up. I should understand a lot of
should take a Lance. And I thought about that for two
seconds and said, there's no way he would have made it to 406.
If I was in the draft, I would have probably still taking him
in the second, but almost like definitely taking him in the
third. That's just a That's such as he
six stars by Manta get like kittel and then Lance is like
kid'll. Lads at the 45 is nutty, I mean,
it's awesome. Yeah, it shouldn't it shouldn't
have happened but congratulations.
Yeah. II did the the Josh a Latrell
ants which as I just saw on the screen or what is apparently
heavily duplicated there, grab the Andre Swift Debo waddle and
Hawkinson so it's just like, it's fine.
They're all the guys I like but I don't get any gifts on a
silver platter like, Crane over here, all right, it.
What? What?
What, uh, at want to add to the fog?
I think it's like, this is actually pretty important point
that I didn't mention, which is that every step of the way your
score that week is getting averaged with your cumulative
score to date. So like it's not even just a
regular season score but like, you know, your week 16 score
includes, you know, the cumulative scores everything up
to that point. But only 50 and I don't know it
to me, that makes the quarterback scoring like even
More important, right? Because if you like struggle
through the middle part of the season, with some crap,
quarterbacks and you're taking negatives, like that's following
you. Or if like, it takes you a while
to figure out a flex spot because you don't have a quality
quarterback starter the way some of the other guys in your lead
do. That's all following you
cumulatively throughout the a, the playoffs.
And on top of that, the fact that the playoffs are a ladder
and it's like a six-week ladder. If you take them - 15, which is
possible for a lot of these guys.
Many like Kirk Cousins. People have said is really good
in this form of people, taking them very high and Kirk Cousins
is a high, you know, completion percentage player.
They got the new court coordinator, he might be great,
I don't know, but like Kirk Cousins has had games that in
the scoring system will be, make not minus 15 and if you get that
basically, at any point week, 11 week, 12 week, 13 me 1450 all
the way to week 17. You're out because that's one of
your two quarterbacks Lots. It's the highest scoring
position Hassan's article showed us that at the upper band.
Like very, very high ceilings at quarterback Caswell.
It's a huge range. So if you're taking a negative
15 against the best teams, and you have, even if you finish top
50 percent, you're going to need.
You're going to need a lot from the running backs receivers and
tight ends in that other quarterback to overcome that.
I mean it will just end you. Yeah and like the thing is is
like rushing like the rushing production is I get it's almost
kind of muted like in terms of like how important it is for ATP
because you really need that like that.
They're rushing yardage that you get and then on top of that, you
need this first, I was like, that's enough to negate like
every first down of quarterback, picks up, it is legs.
That's a bunch of extra free completions, and the guys are
tend to score in that 400-plus estranged, like, last year, like
Joshua Allen did. But these are guys who were
like, always using their legs at the incomplete incompletions,
all that stuff is irrelevant. If you can make up that
difference with your legs. If you have a guy who's not
going to run any throws an interception, like you're going
to go from like a 22-point week to like An 18-point we can
possibly even lower because it gives her minus 4 and then if
you told a bunch of other incompletions are.
So if you just sort of compounds when script goes awry, is what
really punishes these quarterbacks, you know, the
reason I got comfortable and I completely agree with that.
The reason I got comfortable with Lance's looking at Hertz
last year who had one - game in this format but was over at
least a 12 or higher every other game and he had some bad passing
games, but it's exactly what you just said.
The Russian does provide that for you 56 first downs for for
jail and Last year he was a better better just pure rusher
than guys like Ezekiel Elliott David Montgomery and even Austin
Eckler, right? Like, you know, like that's what
you're paying for and that's why these guys are going into
premium. Like I just don't understand
these teams that are playing for Maddie Isis they qb1 because a
year pretty much going to. You're hoping for an 18, you're
more likely going to get like a six at that point you're losing
one or two special effects pots and if you're trying to put in a
you know another quarterback in the super Flex pot, you're going
to be losing that position to someone who's got like Do you be
do little eqb with Russian production by 30 points?
Right. Yeah.
Less going back to last year he scored.
Okay. And, you know very small sample
size but I was like, okay, how did Lance doing this format?
You know, because he's looked like like Terrible's Pastor last
year but it wasn't really that bad so that made me feel you
know like okay if he can get to a Hertz level due to your point
scored. Well in this format then yeah,
an awesome pick in the third. That seems like a pretty good
expectation for him, even if he doesn't throw particularly well,
You know, there's still probably ceiling beyond that, right?
I just pulled him up. Yeah, he had to 20-point games
in his two starts which he had, he was not a good passer in
those starts. Mmm.
Yeah he was 15 to 29 in one game.
Okay, he only had seven and a half points in that game.
That was not. That was not as good as one.
But you know, are two other 20-point games where he was like
when he was 9 of 18 passing like 50 percent completion.
Percentage is bad in this in this format but the rushing
makes up for it. Yeah, I was worried about Jesse
and - were one of those games and ri7.
Yeah, yeah that's not gonna kill you.
It won't kill you. I was just gonna give a shout
out to Kevin Tompkins ship Chaser and works over at Fantasy
Life with us here holding down latest rb1 right now. 11 comma 7
you're coming for him. Yeah, I have not taken a running
back yet and I'm through a tour, some okay.
Yeah, I might I might not be able to get that deep, that's
pretty deep. Let's all due respect to Kevin
but I don't think that 11 records going to stay in very
long probably well. And a lot of let's see, let's
see what his team looks like here with the waiting so long on
it. First running back, selected
retro. Joe.
There you go. Pat, you're right. 70.
I love getting Hopkins in that. I just took Godwin because I've
already taken five receivers before him.
I like the idea of getting Hopkins.
I mean it's a huge, it's a huge swing.
We've talked about it in some of our many cells we are discussing
Hopkins sort of for a similar reason.
There's a playoff Hammer element if you're taking a lot of good,
it has a nice price. Yeah.
Yeah, it does. I think Kevin the reason he did
one of the, the first ten rounds live I believe, which is why
they're so far ahead here. What were you going to say?
No, just going to say how Hopkins Godwin like all these
guys like just that delayed because you can just play them.
Later, great, like you just wait just play them as long as you
keep your structuring your team to do that and man, that's a
really nice price on kiseki in this format.
Yeah, just hope. Malik, Wells is starting form
because Jameis Winston is one of those quarterbacks that
terrifies me for the - I was talking about with the playoff
ladder. Like, I don't know how you get
through six straight weeks of not getting blown up by Jameis
Winston, I tell you how you do grach, crushing your opponent's
at the wide receiver. Yeah, you're gonna crush the
Wade Davis is gonna you. Thank you.
Oh man. Yeah, but we said we'd 14.
I don't know if he's starting Jamis.
He might have a wide receiver in there.
Oh yeah. Hey go superflex in a receiver.
That's how you get the floor, it's badass.
Hassan, have you been is this one of your first main drafts?
Have you been doing any of the best ball stuff, dipping your
toes in or where you at, so far this offseason?
Yeah, just sort of really just been kind of called going in and
out. I did a bunch of drafts pre NFL
draft. I jumped in during the puppy
superflex and Now, I'm sort of trying to keep a steady stream
going. I'm really, really, really
behind. So I'm just in like, 20 each
right now across platforms and I have no idea what I'm doing
anymore. I've just lost all sense of
roster construction, but yeah, I'm just trying to catch up to
you guys as much as I can because I mean you guys have
been doing like drafts the whole time.
So I'm just gonna gonna draft off your, I guess draft, and I
hope that I can, you know? Hopefully we can all have a good
season. Yeah.
Now, we're looking forward to it, you know, obviously have
drafted a bunch of teams on Underdog were underway in our
first main event on ffp. See, I believe, Pat, we've got a
couple of those minisodes up on the audio feed.
Those are delayed. And if you like the videos that
come out earlier, those are just for YouTube members.
So you become a YouTube member, you get access to the Discord
and access to the video, early release versions of those.
Minisodes getting lots of fun feedback on those.
We've had. I don't know, I'd say quite the
winding Journey. Some of those things where we'll
talk for 25 minutes and then be like, wait, do we actually want
to do something else? And it's been the team's pretty
interesting so far. I've gotten some fun messages to
people who are like listening to early episodes and kind of like
getting like. Okay but like you know are you
guys really thinking about doing this?
And I'm like in my head I'm like oh we did that but it's never
like you're not really think about doing that or you know
like no yeah we were because we did.
I know I was trying to think too.
There was something we reference to where I feel like some news
item already even kind of shifted what we said.
So if you are listening to the audio version on those, you're
probably like I don't know five or six days behind if not maybe
a little bit more. So if there's a reference that
seems slightly outdated your beliefs behind because I've
released ever least two of them and I'll drop probably another
one this week. Yeah.
So, having lots of fun with that.
We're in a really interesting range of the draft right now
where we were having to make some tough decisions.
So yeah, our next up we're probably after the show actually
going to record a mini episode. What are we in guys?
Or is it the 10th round pick or 11?
I think the 11th. Yeah, the 11 let me will, we
will get back to you guys on that.
But some what do you say you want to?
You want to rip a puppy draft. We can see the world through
Hassan's lens and one of these drafts.
Yeah, buddy. Let's do it.
I'm really excited for this. The before we move on, I do want
to say, I hoped to Matic a debt of gratitude for letting me know
because I didn't know any of the stuff that's got fish bowl.
I said, Davis, what spot should I drop that off and he said the
105 because you get an elite quarterback and then you get the
benefit from the third round of versal least a little bit.
I was like, all right, thank you anyway.
So I pull up Davis's team later and he's drifting out of the
127. Wouldn't when did you just say?
Because I get one. Yeah well maybe he dug as you
would select you literally like pick which league and which
drops lat Okay, that's hilarious.
I just didn't want to switch. Oh, he's out of the 108.
What is it? May still got color in a way.
That's Eric. Blair, that's players team.
Oh, this is a bad expect the whole day.
Yeah. Okay.
I like that. That's nice, that's pretty good.
Yeah, I need to a part of what, when I was looking at my, what
if I could have, I almost took pits over Lance to of made it
all the way to 311 and I was, I like him as Foreman.
He's a high completion percentage guy.
My whole team would look way different.
I've been kind of gaming it out. Like I took Devo to stack with
Lance, I would have taken CD instead, I went s waddle who I
didn't yakking and stack with to.
I have this whole like alternate University and I'm going to keep
in mind. Yeah, you guys are awesome.
Yeah. I regret not doing.
I didn't I didn't game out the like the optimal slot and I was
like, give me the 101 whatever. And I definitely like have
missed some of those value pockets for sure because I had a
spot where I just in Jefferson went right before me at the end
of the second round. And so Lansing it up being my
consolation prize but that's basically what Pat got where you
get that Elite wide receiver and then you see if Lance Falls to
you because other people aren't as high on him.
So, it is what it is. Sounds good though, you got AJ
Brown, he got waterless Aqua to Davis is doing all right, but it
is interesting that he told you what 05 at that.
What? What?
Okay guys I did get the influence or what a what I
requested it. As Pat said you pretty much got
what you requested, right? Fat Yeah, I think you print
queue could basically, like select exactly what you wanted.
I think, you know, it helps Scott out from what I
understand, so I did the same thing.
You did Pete, except I just thought for one second longer I
was like, I'm gonna take the 102 because it'll get out or behold
there later. I was like, I should change this
now. Just picture this.
Yeah, I'm sure all the guys that were grinding like Scott
Fishbowl mocks. They were well aware of these
phenomenons. That Davis is Anna.
Scott Fishbowl monster? Reet.
Let's do it, man. This it's crazy.
This puppies at 62.8%. What this thing?
This thing fills over the weekend.
Yeah, I've been trying to jam as many entries as possible.
I'm not going to be able to Max this one.
How many, how many of you have you gotten in?
I think about 15 or 16, some away away away.
Yeah, they just I just I just lose completely lose.
I call some plants of roster construction after that.
He. What's going on here, buddy?
What? I know.
No more in Florida, 101 where we amou, what it's?
I mean, they kind of got the decimal system of those wrong,
right? - its, what are we looking at
here? Are the players screwed up the
decimal, right? It should be 10.
One, but we won 10. What do you guys think about the
exact hurt slam? The Deckert slam strategy?
For this one? Yeah, let's suppose to be able
to be there, she's going to be a super Flex puppy.
I don't know, man, I was like having to make like Bix in in
that because I initially I got really cute because I didn't
think that people will get onto the new super Flex ATP as
quickly as it did. So it's like, All my take JT.
And I'm people going to be like, not fully paying attention.
And those teams are like sadness, it's like mac.
Yo and skinny picket I guess I'm rolling out of quarterback.
One of these years there that will be the right strategy but
it wasn't last year and it wasn't this year.
No, maybe maybe in 2023 of the quarterback class will help us
out with that. French.
What did you end up finishing last year and Scott fish?
Well, I've lost out in the semis.
I mean, whatever. You know, I just didn't have the
peak week, you needed. I was first overall in five of
the first, like, seven weeks or something after five in the
first seven weeks. There was some shuffling
sometimes, but I was, I was up there at the top four.
Several of the early weeks, which was a cool feeling
obviously, but it was also because I just got one of those
drafts like Pat's been getting where it worked out and then I
ended up with I got Stafford handed to me, where up Pisano,
doesn't do a piss boys draft. Yeah, I know.
Do like in all honesty, do we hate fucking saying this?
Do we take running by the kenri, or Nigeria or do we take Evan I
think I think. I'm Heavens or Depot.
Okay. I got handed Stafford last year
and then I stalked him with my preferred stack Cooper cup,
which is the only reason. The only reason I ended up with
Kubrick up on that team. I didn't take him a ton.
I liked cup as their preferred guy but was I got handed staffer
like fourth round. Yeah you're gonna have to talk
me through the the week. 17 correlations, I don't know them.
Very well as well. First, first we worry about the
wide receiver Avalanche, but that's our maid priority right
now. First be worried, if the ten
pick was too late to get a ticket heavy starting wide
receiver. Brandon are you just want?
Do you guys want to take you guys want to take?
I was gonna say, I mean, he'll or happens.
I was going to say Higgins, Higgins, Higgins over Hill.
I'm Higgins over Hill but I'm open to any waivers, ever hear
my words against I could see taking like sake one right here.
Yeah, that's what I was going to say is when I was taking a very
good, we're taking a running back up.
We're going to get bird. It's, this is like a real we're
gonna miss out completely. Yeah, all right.
My recommendation is to take a guess, we're going to love
running backs the entire Hagen's, ya know because because
what I was going to say was we just tore up the two three, turn
Depot Hagins, know if we just say that What was that?
You just took the two three turn out of the ten slot and
like you. Also Aaron Jones going ahead of
David Cook. It's actually interesting to see
what the 80 because, like, this point people are like they have.
They actually have their pick of all the running backs, right?
So you kind of just pick a preference.
You can't really get anchored to the ATP know.
Yeah, because that's where I was like, Curious like a true hyper
fragile, taking three running backs in the room like this.
Would that have been the optimal play?
It would have probably been well then you got to go see you with
the two running backs and you go two wide receivers, two tight
ends. And you can fucking like Dan 11,
whatever the whatever the difference there is and with the
wide receivers, really. I think we can basically pull
off. What would typically be thought
of as a hyper fragile, but using grounds that aren't yes, those
rounds exactly. Yeah, that's a good point.
This is like an auction draft. We're just going to take a bunch
of the third and fourth round picks but from from pick one to
six with the receivers first and then the running backs.
Later, the fifth and sixth are all going to be third and fourth
around 80 piece. Go to be a unique bill.
I'll tell you that you have in your room.
I'm genuinely curious. If they, if they, if they cancel
us on the like with the castle is because there's one puppy
draft that, one saw them doing that is 100% going.
Because I think the guy at the end, two clicks to Dick Wilson
at like to do 12 and like just all these Rando like there's two
teams and My puppy draft that are taking these like undrafted
ATP guys. In the second round.
No, no. If anything, this is the
opposite, they they wouldn't cancel this.
They would pin this up and say, this is the true efficient ATP.
The default ATP in there is actually wrong.
You guys actually got it right on this.
Yeah, I don't know if that's gonna be the erection fee.
How you guys feeling about Richard?
Bateman at the three dead. If he's there, if he's there.
DeAndre Sue. I want that joke at the 304.
Adam artist, Mark Andrews, DeAndre Swift start.
They actually might cancel this one.
It's a pretty good start. That's a really good start.
We don't, We're not gonna break structure for Javonte, right?
Or even job. I would rank structure.
He mean, just disavow everything you believe.
Yeah, I know, I'm in your morals but I'm not 310 though.
I'll be just the disavow everything you believe.
Or do you want a 310 man. It's going to be like, like,
like I hate, I hate to bring this up but like it's gonna be
like Melvin Gordon yet again and then we're all going to be like,
no, it's not, don't do that. I know, I know, I know it's the
offseason, it's Do we go pets? I would hope if I would go
Devante. If you guys want to go with you,
you could Javonte or over job javante.
I think sudden. I was really hoping we got want
to Waddle or sudden that then there, man.
I was looking at like the pre NFL draft ATP for Sutton and it
was so so nice. I mean, there's any peace 36, we
just got them at 34, a steal in this room that qualifies as a
value house. Are we taking any interest in
etn at all another curiosity of any of you guys heard about the
additional news about Dobbins is like me like his like the
ligament damage stuff that like no one really reported on?
I haven't. All right.
I need to, I need to probably find that article and send it to
you guys. Where are you guys at my thesis?
And I again I know wide receiver.
Avalanche draft with standing but like I think Chimera is
going to be a back-end first-round pick here in about.
Yeah, three weeks. I think I, I'm with you beat,
but I don't like there was, there's been a lot of smoke
about his trial getting completely pushed, awfully
healthy Camaro. I think I'm heads over Chimera
if you might be pissed. Okay, here I'm I don't agree
that he'll go that high. I think he'll end up being kind
of in the late 2nd. Round range, like people were
pretty concerned about his General situation.
But I'm happy to take a in drafting him.
I mean I'm like okay Davis we could just do that too.
Oh no. I think it's I think we have
luxury pick built-in at this point.
Yeah this is a true blue here to this is.
Yeah this is yeah this is a good start at that.
Yeah. Really good.
True or covered around on it Gretch.
You can not it. So I mean like that's like
that's like the one thing that I find interesting is there's not
enough there's too many good running backs like with a
similar range of outcomes like in the first like Arby's 1316,
right? Like when camara's they went
even he gets back he can't go that much higher you know like
again like to what bats point was about going to the mid
second round. Like when you when you look at
how the running backs are Comedy running back.
So you truly going to be you know taking him over and it
becomes a very dicey, like it just becomes this.
Like nebulous big Tier 1, a or I guess if you're going with JT
and CMC is your Tier 1, four running backs, your tier 2 is
just as big fucking amorphous, blob of running backs, right?
Yeah, I just think he'd pretty comfortably ends up like if you
eliminate all suspension concerns, I feel like he's like
the RV 546 like going before Mixon.
And Aaron Jones, right? But then but then, you know, you
better the six hole, this guy that guy's no idea what hit him.
We're at the resort, the sirens are blaring is like a national
weather emergency. Yeah.
So this is that was kind of what I wanted to get was a your take
their, right. Because if Chimera even if he
does jump all of those guys like is he a better pick their than
some of the guys going? That's what I'm concerned about
is the difference with like like bollocks says in the chat if
he's LED second round seem Sikh Americans could dominate CMC was
still CMC when on the field last?
Yeah. Chimera was not so c'mere
though. Different role without Drew
Brees, he was a little bit less explosive in my opinion rushing.
You think agree? Grinder.
Right. Thank you is like a who's who
the tackles grinder? So I yeah I was really I
hesitate a little bit to be like he's still Calvin come like
usually when guys start to fall off at Post 25 like I actually
don't want to catch that. That falling knife, you know.
Yeah. Mandy might have the one-on-one
has got to really make sure they're going to be winning this
by like week 8 because God when God will new Killing not going
to show up sometime. Yeah, that was an interesting
choice by the way. Camara's 27 At the end of this
month. So, yeah, I mean older, this is,
this is burned us like a bunch of times.
We were like oh the agent, the receiving backstage better.
It's okay, y'all let me know always I should be cleared to.
I'm strictly talking from like a closing line value standpoint
that I'd yeah in possible that he doesn't rise.
I'm drafting. Now, I'm taking the enolate
third now, because I'm not gonna be taking him once he moves up.
This. Give me my chance to get him.
No, I think I Literally zero shares when he was annoyed
second and I am taking him in the plate.
No, no, no DPR running backs. Don't necessarily fall off, both
25, like 27th kind of considered to be their true.
Quote-unquote Peak are some of you see a lot of more
inefficient play from from some of these guys as 827.
Especially their early declares this because they spent that
much time with their 25, they're literally dead, and they're
completely out of the player pool.
That's, that's the actual. I mean, that's, that's, that's,
that's Believe, but if you want to know I don't but I do
understand what dark last year. Did on legendary running backs?
I was actually like, and I'm already like pH conscious.
I was actually kind of surprised how much you really do want like
the young guys to have. Like yeah, the massive legendary
Seasons. Those are coming from generally
guys who were 25 and younger, it would be kind of surprising or
at least like an outlier among outliers and the ones who do it,
tend to have been consistently doing it.
They don't usually start to degrade to then come back.
You don't see the sniper got us on the one that I was looking
at. All right.
I guess we could do Mooney. But is there anybody else?
I was gonna say Lamar. Mooney were my two.
Yeah, the markham's. I can see Lamar for sure.
I guess he'll them are there. Other receivers have a Downing
book? Licorice.
A real quick. Yeah.
It's like Elijah, Elijah more. Yeah, I would do it Liza or I'm
gonna get it. Do ya?
We could we could take money and then if you get there, You could
take a lighter because back dude, point five picks after
ATP. I know that's a good one.
Read the room, easy, read the room buddy.
Wow yeah that's not happening. That's going around away from
that big bump. Let's go to the dead.
Do you think Jesus Christ.
Yeah, I agree. No, it took that I don't really
want snack that. Yeah, stacking up Atlanta at
premium prices like sadness. Like that's just like, that's
and that's where you look at it like this team.
Like, even if it wins in the exam, how you look at it, like,
like the first week of the playoffs here.
Like harms is not happy Harps. We don't use that language
around here. Wow, maybe we're taking Alvin
Kamara, and Breeze Hall, and painting your drab green.
You should have thought about that.
That exactly. Yeah, you don't get too big to,
you know, greedy tours, and they get pissed off with the good
players actually get drafted. Especially love, that breeze
Hall value. In the fifth, with no running
legs had gone through the rest of the fifth.
You were feeling good. And this, the Russell gauge
helium is pretty nuts though, like, the fact that he's
overtaking like Quite a few good players has me a little bit
concerned. Yeah, Russell actually kind of
the sticks around now, it's pretty.
It's pretty early Russell gauge over Drake lot.
London is just like a quintuplet condom moves like I just can't
even imagine. Yeah, I mean, it is funny.
Like, I guess, what? The Evans stuff, right?
Like my cabins, he's going to get off to a fast start, but
then you can also see him being a big touchdown score in the in
the playoffs where you actually need the points.
But can you see that with Each like gauges.
Like, you're getting all these early points.
That's like an end. Well, what about when you need
him? What about when it's a gpp,
Amanda Allen Lazard. Pick actually hurts.
That was the point that I was talking with.
We did a puppy draft last night on Club, Top Shot.
And we had heard sick on and I kind of gave my anti Mike Evans
case and he said, he thought that I was maybe undervaluing
gronk's absence relative to what it means for Mike Evans, guys.
We Stables to people. I might be too, I need to get
more Evans. He's so expensive.
I almost never draft him. The 109 also is mad that we
sniped hurts, they got Russell gauge, maybe stuff Another kind
of odd this absent. Yes.
Everyone's everyone's angry except for us.
We're just chilling. Yeah, I would say is too Steep
and basically all formats and I just took him in the same time.
I don't think the Evans engage prices reflect enough
uncertainty. That God wouldn't could play a
little bit more. Like everyone's talking about
how we're pushing the injured players too high, and that's
You're at but Evans engages. Prices are frothy and are
basically like Godwin's missing 10 games if God not only mrs.
Like three games right? Don't think Evans engage your
good pics anywhere near where they're being taken.
Yeah. On God.
I will also push back just a little bit more like their
entire divisions. Kind of like just very poor,
right? Like you can see those being
Lenny games or you can see those being like grind it out like how
much Firepower did really need to be Whatever the this
incarnation of the Saints is or whatever this one incarnation of
the Falcons is, right? Like at that point like you can
make like a good upside case you can make it upside case for
anything. Like people just don't like the
big the downside cases because there's so many ways that you
just miss all the little little facts and you know, you just
sort of will miss something that it's very thin, the obvious in
hindsight but that's why a lot of these decisions I made, you
know, ex ante. And you know when you when you
talk with the winners a lot of it comes down to probability,
right. But when you, when you look at
the Falcons for example, they don't exactly have like these
massive shootout games, you know, to against the Falcons
that could easily be like many games Ravens could potentially
be like grind it out game. You have like the Seahawks, it
could potentially be another grind it out game at the Browns,
could be a grind it out game. Like, you can see a world where
Lenny kind of smashes but you can see a world and a world
where like Evans does disappointed at pricing, you
know what I mean? You wanna?
Yeah, I could stash wants to. Let's do it.
That's dinosaur. Two wives.
It's the fucking sickest name. I've ever seen for a wide
Regina. My God damn
Welcome to the team asan. Welcome to a front row, seat to
ship chasing playing the hits. Oh baby.
Yeah. Yeah.
Again. There's nothing even tempting
here. Like if Dobbins had continued to
fall. Yeah, now we should say I agree.
Do you guys want to do with Garrett will see more?
Yeah, I don't mind. I don't mind.
Claypool either. Hang on.
Oh, you're right. Sorry, I forgot we didn't have
Borough, um, Wilson Scott funding based on the like, yeah,
you know, we have some guys who should be like, solid to start
out. Yeah, this is a this is a
Relentless Avalanche to like it just it just keeps coming.
You just have to go, I mean, the last two rounds between our
hearts, picking our Sky Pig. What does that one, two, three
four, five, six, seven, eight, nine ten twelve.
Twelve of the was at 18 picks were yeah 12 of the 18 pixels
wide receivers even after it was such a receiver heavy start.
Yeah, DK. Bees men mentioning something we
little There's something we mentioned on the minisodes.
I know all of us have individually been saying the
same thing. Like Garrett, Wilson's, price.
I just, I can't wrap my head around it.
It doesn't make sense. Why he isn't going where olave
and Burks and Skyrim Russell gauge.
Went 604 M vs went 702, Cristian Kirk went 705 and we still got
Gary Wilson in the early, a current, but doesn't make it
based on the way the market is treating this as well.
I'm actually in like before, 34 weeks now, I have not really
been taking Elijah more. Because my feeling on this is,
if this is how the market is seeing, kind of the Jets like
it's as if they can only drive one jet.
So if we do start to get some bullish news on Wilson, which I
think we probably will. The number ten overall pick is a
great Prospect. I think he's probably a better
fit on the outside then Wilson if they still want to play,
Corey Davis out there. So like if we get bullish news
about Wilson, that height comes in, it might come at the
expense. Spence of more.
So I'm both like scooping Wilson but I'm also cooling off on a
larger more who I would like to have exposure on but that's you
know, I'm drafting early, I'm drafting late, one of the bets
I'm making is that I'm going to be able to get cheaper Elijah
more, but Garrett Wilson will be as cheap.
Yeah. Yeah, it is weird because there
hasn't been like with the Berk stuff right there was the asthma
like there was a direct reason his ATP dropped.
But with Garrett Wilson, I think it was just like you were saying
correlated to the Elijah More Steam because the markets really
excited about him because there were it.
Did I miss any blurbs about? Like your Wilson is not ready or
not going to be on the field or whatever seem 6 just Henry's
pointing out. Team Six, just took Montgomery
and Elijah Mitchell and now has a 2411 built.
Let me see this team. One receiver.
What's the team's name? Oh my God.
Bowling I found. Justin Herbert Eckler mix in
Montgomery Mitchell. Wolf.
And then did you get Waller? They got London.
Let's see what they do here. This is a real moment of truth,
because they're like, I don't really like, oh my God.
Moment right there. Beautiful gotta go.
Like I liked it some point. I just respect trying to power
through it. You know, you're like I'm
buried. I'm a big Byron brickles.
Gonna be your wide receiver to good luck but he's like, I'm
gonna do this with volume. Except your volume is going to
be nobody's Byron Pringle. Also, didn't you get in trouble
for doing donuts and like a parking lot with his kid in the
back? I miss that.
Yeah, yeah. I got some And let me see.
I believe you had a child in the back.
What's yours your reckless driving and had his license
license. Revoked she's doing donuts in
this Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat, pretty cool.
What you guys think about taking ghadir here and being done at
tight end and getting a stack with her?
So yeah, I was going to write in my journal.
Yeah, very much in on on, on on Goddard I think.
Okay. It's a good call.
Yeah. What's that?
That bitch up. This is so uncharacteristic of
something. Odd light.
Look at that. Titan.
Rubbing off on me, is on a 30 50, 50 minutes with you.
You just got to make the jokes jokes.
That was asking what your a drink.
In earlier the chat is so dumb. It's called a Smackdown.
Sour by one of the local breweries here foot by a foot
Point Brewing, you know this summer there.
Look at this best available. I have not filtered out idiot.
This does feel like it's time, right?
Like we grab one. Yeah, at this point, I believe
you. Are you sucker best start,
right. Oh my God.
We have the best R&B 72. My God.
This this is one of those, you know the meme where it's like
you had me in the first half. We live in a world world Emoji
where divide this myth goes in the first eight rounds.
I'm like, okay, here we go. But to to goes to the 18th
because these two inches shorter, I am I am very certain,
my two-year-old is taller than 22 out.
Well, so like there's other reasons in the first leg last
year, right? In the first half.
I thought that was a Dallas Goddard message.
What do to happen? It was, you know, runner-up for
the Heisman behind the vodka Don't like his face off is
tilting his face off. Yeah, if you guys are excited
about this briefly, see the Pentagon taking on the main
event. Meanwhile, we escaped the
Avalanche, we're in the fucking lodge sipping.
Hot Cocoa's right now? That'll be a, no, that'll be an
away game for us. This is a home game for very
familiar, with these treacherous conditions.
Oh my God, there is a fly in my water and I just drank it.
This stuff like what is it by water?
Fuck. This is So else here is, I don't
think I would have shared this story, but in solidarity with
Pete here. Last night, I felt this like
brush. My dog has like a very feathery
tail and so, I felt his like tail brush against my foot, and
then I looked behind me and Murphy was like, very far away,
so that's like that was not Murphy still.
So, now, I'm just, like deciding in my head, like what would I
like this? To be like a mouse could be a
mouse. That's maybe not the worst
thing. It was not a mouse.
It was not fur that I had felt. It was the gentle tickle of
cockroach feet. No, no.
I was gonna, I was gonna ask, I'm getting the hell out in
Brooklyn. The second, I have it.
Like, just get me. Give you the suburbs.
I mean, you can't do that. That big big doll.
Big outside cockroach just looking over my foot.
No, damn, man, the good. I did hunt it down and kill it,
but But wasn't my favorite moment of living Brooklyn know
that I'm triggered losing Cotton Fields, they kind of sucked.
Oh II, see a very good big here for us.
He's just grinning Come on Jake. He wants to do it.
I dare you. Is going to go to me, Cole.
I like Richard white here, a lot.
I mean, I like to shed weight to what do you want to go with?
Nicole could be can break even on him.
I was the producer the second he started to draw that out.
I was like, I know what's coming.
I do love that. He did this.
What do you call it? A super whatever.
Right before his wife, here's the thing.
You can take our Ronald Jones but you can never take our Jay.
Jay Taylor clip, we should take changing Taylor at the end of
this just to spite my family for taking.
It's a good way to get unique. It sure is people would be
tilting and we wonder oh my God, man.
Jefferson. Oh, I like his songs comment in
the chat just now. No, I didn't see that.
Just to say it out loud. So don't want to go.
Yeah, yeah, we're we're on the clock and he's not coming fast
and he's not going to come, you know.
I'm good with him though. I'm good with that or my I mean
Madison's fine with the top, I mean, yeah, Matt Madison is good
for your kiss is like because he buys the highest upside in case
something happens to Dalvin. Right.
What do you guys want better? Yeah, let's I mean handle.
Could actually just beat out Acres if acres is not right if
Acres isn't healthy. Yeah, which I mean, just going
back to the Super Bowl. There were like, Henderson came
off the IR and they just threw him right into the game.
They're like, all right, you're going in.
You just it's kind of hilarious that we just took a running
back. A picket 1.6 after ATP and then
another one before a BP, I know, I think that what we waited, we
might have waited a little too long because we didn't, we
didn't get any of the running back gifts.
Yeah, look at all that green. This is like the kind of the
dynamic. We had all this whole cast today
with kitchen, where it's like when you scoop up value, like
I'm such a value Hound. These idiots are you know let
these guys what becomes a six Heat?
Harrison Patterson after the Pollard pick, he just took
nickel as his wide receiver to mean that's a great wide
receiver T. That's how you get even on him?
That's yes no no. I was just gonna say it's like
it's so funny when you want to have it both ways for you like
of such a value. How did then you're like no I
know better on this one of it. I'm going to take this guy. 50
fix that. Make sure there's no flies.
Patterson is going to be a closing line value.
He's gotta rise right? Maybe we saw this last year,
right? Like it's a lot of like the
entire. It's like the faith in your,
your projections being like infallible, and they not leaving
any of that wiggle room in case something does happen.
And you can't see injury, right? Let me just go back to a lot.
Like just if you look at like Acres threads from last year,
like people were like, They do Henderson is nothing and like,
instantly the port like, you know, they pretty much, much,
takers to hell. I will promote.
If you guys don't watch the swell cast today, the premise of
the show was soccer. Dave drafts is like, s
basketball team of the Year while Davis and I Heckle him the
whole way through. And it was it was honestly just
surreal. I highly recommend it.
And it came up in the chat multiple times.
So I got like, there was some references to just like, full-on
0 or be like, let's do it. This is my, This Is My Jam and
then it just like completely goes off the rails.
I did catch the string you did with my for been.
That was that was an awesome stream.
People should check that out. They have got basketball Bros.
Yeah, I gotta check that out. Yeah, that was a fun one.
That's a good chat. Welcome Gem City.
Finally made it to my first live show after being a new member
had to get the kid out of bed first.
But I made it even though a little late.
Don't worry, you didn't miss much.
I ate a fly. Pat talked about cockroaches
asan. Launched a new draft strategy in
been said, stack that bitch up. That's really what it's about.
So you like Michael Carter better than some of the other
guys in this range. No, no, no, not really.
I'm really ambivalent between any of them but I just realized
that there's someone who we could really get like the the
Stack-On like Michael Card oversteering.
Davis price. You like you like Carter nearest
person and it just give me whatever.
Like, I'm probably going to end up even waiting both, right.
They get the end of the day. I mean I like Heinz here your
clients. I was gonna say, what about what
am I gaining well-liked? Oh yeah with that with our stock
that bitch I heard. Yeah, it's like that bitch up.
I'm joking. It's on because we're we're
about to have a decision with with some of these running backs
in this range and it's been, it's been tough to decide what
we're going to do. So like, can you tell me who you
are? Were calling everybody at this
point. Yeah, I think I'm in Russia for
dinner and I asked the sushi chef is like, so who do you
prefer in this video? Are be range.
So, you drafted any Tyler I was here at all.
I really, yeah, I'm a big as your fan.
I Think actually, but like algebra gives us correlation
with. I don't know how heavy heavy
explodes want to be the ATL. So I actually like my sister,
this is so good. The sequel to his.
This Is Why I'm Hot desert. Yeah, so if someone wants to
tackle this, I will hook you up with a supreme urge, if you want
to edit this, this masterpiece. Do you guys have any?
You can, we look at the cube, he's like, is it anyone that you
could see us even bothering with?
Is it are there any more the Milf Hunters firmly on my radar?
Yeah. Mill.
Funders absolutely radar. what about wide receiver is there
anyone to go back to Not really Marvin fucking whore, Davis.
Oh, look at your Fort Davis. Yeah, nothing.
Nothing rallies, a team at the Mill functor, man.
Yeah, DC is at Sakura. Is he was like, I haven't been
on my what's up, Michael? Although although just a moment
to like recognize homie, hopper is a really, really good term.
How we Hopper? Yeah, I don't think I've heard
that since I was 16. Yeah, I don't think I did you
ever get where you get? Nick used to be a hobby Hopper
back in the day Gretch. I just remember it.
Float around my high school, like, that's definitely one.
I heard back in high school. This I don't think I ever used
it for the record. I mean, we respect women in this
house, you guys can be homie. How pursue as we found out.
So everyone's draw like I saw this.
I saw you know heart he's mentioned you know about why we
were over there for that looking sexy.
French now I cried Dolly. Hey
Anyway, sort of like he's kind of thing retirement.
I was wondering if there's been any additional reporting to on
that angle for Fuller Road because we haven't heard
anything about him working on four teams.
You really hasn't played football in a very long time.
It's legitimately sounded like he was struggling with
motivation for the game, at the very, very least and, you know,
so I was curious. Do you guys think Fuller
actually plays the season? What are you guys doing with
him? Are you drafting him now,
speculative lie? Or is he just one of those bad
Bix that you really don't want at all?
Well, I hope he's not that because I'm hammering will
Fuller, man, he's basically free.
So to me it's like, you know, he's in the 14th and this one's
ha ha. I mean there's like an actual
opportunity cost is normally, he's normally like a 17 pounder,
right? I mean, I mean, so will Fuller
or David Bell. Great, that's a good thing.
I think watching suspended for the season because we've got
that one too. All right, let's see what's
going on here. Moment of silence.
I do, I do enjoy this comment here from from Kevin.
Yeah, this is gonna write, I mean, I'm just
that double stack. Let's get the milk.
Oh yeah. Welcome to the squad.
He's got that dog in him. So, we're comfy at two.
Quarterbacks were comfy at two tight ends.
We have four more pics. We have chickens here.
Oh shit. Do you want to actually do
double Stacks? This is, if you if you're into.
I was gonna say, if we take, if we take, there's no way he's
going to happen, but Mac was born.
Would be and then we can take a running back but we do brighten
your day to running back. So that's I think in this build
we want at least get to 6 6, 6 times x, for sure.
Agree, 6. I mean mckissick, I don't know,
like I got nothing here, but he has any interesting it's around
Canada jerking in and that's a good one.
Get this correlation down at the bottom, which, which, which
correlation I already have sky, cam her.
And then, we have saw Oh okay, smart.
So I do think. Yeah, I think we're definitely
going to take at least one more running back.
And then I think we have like a luxury pick.
It could be a third QB, but I'd probably just prefer to get out
on a wide receiver. Yeah.
Okay. I said born looks kind of
appealing but he's gonna go. I mean, if you want to get the
one, he really stacked that bitch up.
You can tackle as Watkins on Oh, that's someone.
I've been like, mashing a lot like fuck.
Yes, that's how you're welcome whenever you want.
Let's get the quest. Walkins propaganda flow and
baby. Yeah, I mean dirt, he was you
just good. He was legitimately, he actually
was like he's who you want rightly.
He gets his high-value deep Target throws and he's fucking
fast and didn't earn a lot of volume but he was really good.
But like you never are right. Like I said, rookie and lid
lifter on offense, but like there's more run Centric
especially when they became increasingly more run Centric
after the switch to that. Oh see.
The you just not going to get enough volume.
It was what was good? Was he got like what like two or
three targets the game but he caught one of them right and
like that's like the difference between smash week.
Talking about daddy caught one target a gay.
Yeah. If you keep going, not even once
one target place that's right now.
Yeah, no, yeah. Bullet points out quiz.
Watkins is beautiful. Every working fingers like Like
he had a 70% catch rate last year was like, yeah plus yards
per Target like you actually. Yes, really efficient.
Quiz is pretty good. I like quiet and I think he's a,
it looks like he'll play out of the slot and rhaegar obviously
has completely flop. So it'll be, I think it'll be
pretty clearly be a, you know, like a starting wide receiver
probably have like 70% of the rods were some maybe some.
Yeah I mean there was there was a report that came out not too
long ago that quiet was working and in this tin with the
starters, Yep. Remember Jalen rhaegar.
Remember when work out the other guy who doesn't work out man.
So so team one really did So, so Gronk, I don't know who blurred
this on NBC. But Gronk did say like in an
event that he's just fucking dime but football, right?
Like you just reiterated it. Yeah.
I'm still calm bullshit. Yeah.
I mean, I, I read, I read that article like on and be life,
like, it was he goes, he goes like, yeah, Tom calls me out,
like, you got it. You gotta pick up that call, you
know, it's Tom Brady. Yeah to sweet-talk him.
Hey buddy, one more last run. Tom's gonna sweet-talk him after
like Evans flops and the game to it.
Yeah, should be like well I mean so we were talking about
actually when I get back to that Tampa Bay conversation we should
probably pick first. Yeah.
Anything anything jump out here? We're doing kwesi could kind of
take our pick of the running backs.
So if you want it for, did my guy go?
He's there. No you know is there man I'm a
little little pits correlation. Yeah baby.
That works for me. Run it.
I'm getting a lifetime break even on you know or I'm gonna
die trying. That's just a Martingale on
every guy that just sits there doing like three years ago and
then eventually want to find out what they've been.
Jake. Jake Aikido.
All right. Jay Jay Taylor
If you want to check that bitch up, yeah, we just set a lot of
really good things about him. We're just playing for AJ brown,
dirt about this myth to miss a little time.
And then we got the whole Philly offense.
Oh my God, I'd be taught is for as crazy of this.
Big like a piss boy draft. If Debo stable and T Higgins.
Are you know mispriced you know underpriced by you know, six or
seven picks and this is just a beautiful 0 R B2, it's a real
good team. Yeah, and we did, we got the
pits value which I think makes the build a little bit better.
But overall I think otter and of like, both it should come back
in a little bit at running back because we didn't get any of the
like guys who went screaming fixed fast.
EP. Yeah.
No, I'm gonna do that. Make up for the like sobbing and
Chase Edmunds. Going way past ADP.
What you guys who were Dobbins? Wet Dobbins went here at where
you have a set these up a little bit where we took, Skye more in
this? Yeah, so that like something
like that's what we should have done something like that I mean
that's just how it goes sometimes.
No, I was on the board for the sky and then I was praying
diamonds to get back. But what's that song?
What are your final takes on this team?
Music and Enderman. They like, there's like there's
a lot of good correlation that we got going on.
We got the mail van teradek. Realistically going to Rally the
squad. I mean, how, how could this
team? What could go wrong?
I don't nothing. Really could go wrong.
I think we I think we just ship it.
Yeah, it's just it's just the only way to do it.
Yeah. Yeah, I like the steam Jalen
Hurd sack Wilson at quarterback and then we got our Stacks.
So we have hurts with gain, well, Goddard and cause Watkins
Zach Wilson. The Milf, Hunter double stack,
Corey Davis and Garrett Wilson, other running backs Singletary,
Rashad White, Hen, do Jerick McKinnon Eno wide receivers,
devotee, Higgins. Sutton Mooney sky.
More the aforementioned Wilson Davis and Watkins and then Kyle
pits as well. It's a nice Squad. yeah, I mean
all we need is like handle or gain well to have that kind of
role that no one else at the ATP is in pricing and right now like
if I was to tell you right now, handle gets I don't know, 40%
well, maybe that's too high. 35 percent touch are like, that's,
she's a teepee. Still too low.
You know what I mean? Yeah, like him and Gain real
like, again, the market still pricing Mi Sanders is the head
of gain well and, and Boston, Scott.
And I'm really not sure if it hurts their like, it really
doesn't make, I don't know if Mi Sanders is skill set.
This truly complimentary with her too.
So that makes sense. Yeah.
What is this Joshua says sauce team for filthy our B value.
This is you guys want us to sot? Do you want to Sauce it, or do
you want us to complement your value?
You have to, you have to decide what you want.
Because if you ask for the sauce, we don't give a shit
about your value because you just use that value to draft
shitty players. Short short gamer TV said that
was the most fun. I've had in a draft.
You end up with that you were having so much fun.
We were all miserable. Let's hear the team here.
Let me, let me try to pull this back up.
Wait, Josh is requesting sauce on behalf of other teams which I
do think there's a little bit against the spirit of saucing,
right? Because the Saucy has to request
the sauce. Otherwise we're just ripping
strangers. What's up?
It's a masochistic kind of request.
Yes, that's going on here. I'll take a look at gamer TV.
He said he had a lot of fun. That doesn't mean I can't.
Let's see. Lamar Jackson and Stafford Henry
just is team for. So we can, we can suck Henry
Dobbins. Heinz algier, Marlin Mac, Judy
Robinson thielen Watson Gallop. What are you looking at?
Yeah, we can't see the screen. Oh, I did, I share this awesome.
Let's just reset. Let's, let's Guys, sure.
You think you want chip chasing to review your team?
How much sauce would you like on your team room?
Oh, I love this. You asked for the sauce.
He wants it extra Saucy. You think it's spicy.
He wants 13 pool boy. You realize you can't handle the
heat. Yeah, it's guy.
Can we have to review his tank? Why did you take mohel and hot?
What are you doing? So fucking cute with his 0r b
Heaven. You will speak when you're
spoken to fuck off, christofle team ship chasing team reviews
are getting spicy to he wanted her to It wanted your, you can't
handle the heat really got me this time.
Is this the time we go? Please don't sass me.
I'm scared. Okay.
Sure Jefferson and someone named Calvin Austin.
So we probably. Yeah.
What's gonna be pretty rough. His career was over like three
years ago. So what was it was out of the
four? Who wanted it?
Yes, a badge, bro, what? Yeah sauce.
Yeah, Joe. Around DeShaun Watson.
DeShaun Watson at penguin. Yeah that's on your one
quarterback bill. Yeah, congrats on the like if
you have that stance I mean just fucking wait a few more rounds
buddy you undid all the benefits of taking a stab on Watson.
Few pics ahead, ATP. Look at that.
But hey, at least it was correlated with this Washington
bring back and week 17. Hey, you know, you know what he
should have done. Keep 30k McAfee, should have
actually taken another stab on Jimmy Garoppolo.
He's guilty running back value. He took Josh Jacobs Antonio get
like his, it's just a running back.
Dead Zone. You took all your dad running
back. I do.
This is what I was going to say they wanted sick running back
value. Yeah.
Because they're all shitty players.
Why do you think the room gave them all to you?
Yeah. Congrats you under a swift.
I will say that picked 28 is pretty nice and then you took
that value and you threw it in the toilet when you took Justice
into a Gibson. Yeah, that's a, that's a
modified 0 or B team with that. You literally went 0 or B after
that. Well, and it's also just like
sure you got DeAndre Swift, but, you know, we were all screaming
that there's an avalanche on the mountain and you're like, eating
a fucking chicken noodle bread bowl there, like, just wake up,
buddy. You can't be taking ready.
Backs in Abyss boys, right? I love that.
You've got your so pumped about Josh Jacobs 30 picks after a TP.
Scroll down a little. Where did you get ready?
Fellas, you're whiter. See before you just nailed on
the malleable, Raiders? What ahead of ATP one after
congrats. Your team sucks.
Well, this is this is a problem right?
With taking, you know the dead zone highlight guys, is that you
end up with Kirsten you're down at people's Jones, Khalil Shakir
like yeah functionally his client has like five.
Five or six receivers which I, you know, I will say with the,
you know, those the veterans those running backs, you have,
who's the hyper agile to this team?
Is for white. This team has four wide
receivers and it's got three. I see three receivers and an
accountant and a bunch of white bodies.
Three receivers that an accountant.
And a bunch of guys who don't even have pictures or just
white, little avatars Underdog. Can I didn't did you, is there
like bonus points for correlating the entire AFC North
here? Like, I'm just trying to figure
out what's going on with all this fucking Cincinnati
Cleveland and it Baltimore and Pittsburgh here.
I mean you don't have both both more in Pittsburgh is a
correlation. It's okay, that they all play in
domes, there's never been a cold weather game in December.
Yeah. North, you'll be all right.
It's hey, it's official name is for high scoring games Folly for
they season of the AFC North. You can shoot out Central.
All for this teams are within driving distance of me, so I can
go see these teams. They can go see this team died
in real time and also it just like your brain is so broken by
correlation that you had to take Khalil Shakur just to get the
bring back which of our Chase. I mean let's see if they game
shoots out, it would not be because acceleration What is the
guy you need? There was a period on road of is
where there was like a ton of riders and it did feel like one
point that I needed to write. Khalil Shakur is the skeleton
key for this trip just saw seemed like there was a forest
like all right you guys took everything else.
Like gonna do the clear sky. Yeah.
I mean, I mean, I think, I think selicia here because my daughter
is like Pete. Like that's that's, uh, that's,
that's the size of like, hot Torpedoes.
All right, let's do base Frank here from the two hole.
So Frank, you started this team. You're in this unique, this
boys. So, he has, he has Mahomes and
cousins, Dylan, pure Spiller Edwards, Herbert, Jamal, but I
just first want to talk about the start.
So you get this room where we're all going to do.
Weird crazy. Stuff like value wide receivers
appropriately and you take a line that is going to be
duplicated across this tournament, a million times.
The chalky is start possible, Cooper cup.
It gets wet. I'll get my preview bike
Williams, get out and bring back.
Congratulations Frank. You had the same ideas fucking
8,000. Other idiots on this app.
Also, thanks for the Starbucks Coffee gift card.
You posted the disc Anything else you guys want to say about
weirdly normal team? Like, this is a kind of a normal
team, clearly, or listen to much as Sports good?
Yeah, this table, but just take a taste of hell.
I mean, Davis screenshotting is like cryptic messages from Nick
Underhill about. Yeah, those were all in the
oven. Do you think Silva's getting
jealous? That?
Yeah, underhill's talking to Davis?
Probably a little although can we talk about the biggest
reveal? Of all time, they've been so and
help eyes on Lon. I mean, yes, fantastic.
That was that was incredible. Also shout-out to the etrto team
for splicing Silva, laughing at Silva.
Hassan has his own special kind of secret Source in the industry
and it's Ian hot eats Insider NFL Insider.
All round great, dude. Yeah.
I mean this too. Taste of Hell.
Stuff is just Davis poisoned your brain.
Frank I do I do like this this war that you and Davis have
going on Pat about a Chui Poonam versus Greg dolch.
It's Davis gets so Jared. Anytime you betcha deltaj, he
gets so triggered. And the funny thing is which
like I'm drafting dulcich for sure.
But I also think that Russ could be one of the keys to the season
and I've been wrong about this stuff before.
So you know I'm you know, but I'm drafting like he is going to
be one of the keys so I'm overweight pretty much every
Bronco. I realize I'm actually slightly
underweight, so And I'm underweight Melvin Gordon right
now but I think I'm overweight every other Bronco.
So I'm overweight Alberto, I'm taking plenty Alberto.
I'm just not hammering him like Davis is Davis.
Got a gigantic bag of our do you won't even consider the
possibility that maybe dulcich is the guy who's free.
So, you know, just so funny because he's already super
leveraged in Dynasty. I think every Dynasty later, and
I'm in like, at least three or four and he's been in on Alberto
for a long time. So, I might as well just get all
your Dynasty stuff into best ball, put everything in one
basket and if it doesn't work out, you'll feel great.
Oh well I look like I got to see.
I mean that's a sinking ship buddy, you gotta get out, get
out, get out while the price is high.
It's also just coming for you. It's a wooden pole be, the
amount of teams Davis has where he has a coolie.
Boom, it was hell on the same team.
Like, he has to have patties over left.
Him just gives me, Pat is overweight.
Wow, because I guess I'm overweight everything.
So now, I'm just over way it's pretty mean to say.
I mean, I think you look fine back.
This is a fun bunch of the. What are you guys doing?
Does it? He does, anyone else want to
guess? Get Sauced only, if you can
handle it? Because I'll call you fucking
idiot, right? To your face.
Sure gave your TV as a safe name and beg, not to be sauce.
What did he do in 12? Hey, we're getting Sauced.
Team 7 here. Josh requested team 3 which I
know for a fact he's 19 just as we already saw.
Don't you? Oh no they're too Josh.
This is Josh. This is Josh.
Yeah that both are Josh's with blue jays right?
Okay. Team three.
We already know Scrooge everything we can see right now
is not yellow enough. I like The DJ more pick, but you
got to Taylor etn kid'll. Lance heat, happy thought he
thought Travis. CTN is just such a screaming
value here. Super three toes Team, Six in
the chat, though. I really want to know if you
serious Tony. So basically, what it, what did
Josh do here? Josh.
Oh my God. What's going on?
Why is this a three quarterback Beltre?
Lance Matt, Ryan Baker, Mayfield.
This team's got wrong with who see it from the back here.
Who are you stacking Matt Ryan when he got JT.
It's got the Tony bring back. But someone, if it's deck.
Gotta get John if it's sweet. Sweet Matt Ryan value, 15 picks
after ATP get that. I also like I don't think you
could get away with four running backs in this build.
Melvin Gordon is you're already back three.
No listen. Ricky moster is the picture of
Health. You just wait and see, that's
what I'm talking about. That's probably not the best.
I mean, if you're gonna do it, I probably wouldn't do it with
Melvin, Gordon ringing muster raised, almost everyone
A lot of you need your feet to run while it is running right
back. Well, I think people get
confused hyper fragile actually refers to the structure, not
like the literal fragility of the player, their propensity for
injure, their foot bones. I prefer any one of those screw
in their foot is going to be a gradual, right?
All right, I mean this team outside of the whatever happened
at running back sucks. I think we've got another
double-stacked Carolina wide receivers was his, that was his,
like a, but give me some credit for this.
Robbie Anderson has literally said everywhere, he can that he
Doesn't want to play with Baker, Mayfield.
Like it's a huge, like your double stack.
Doesn't like it has basically made it so that the his very
Petty quarterback will never throw to him.
Congrats. Um let's see.
Hobbs Hobbs wants it teammate. This will be our final sauce of
the night here. So Harv's.
Oh my god. Wow.
Do you want to chew? Okay, to help.
Welcome. Did the underdog did the other
dog settings change or something?
I'm just, I just can't imagine leaving a draft with these two
as my quarterbacks. No.
Well, the thing is in the Thunderbolt.
God of don't have to win three straight GPS.
At the end, right? You don't have to win three
straight GPS. Floor format.
Its total points. Yeah.
So the total points always know. Okay, sing a little bit Nation
because if it was single elimination at any point you'd
be fucked. Yeah.
He'd want some ceiling but no, he's good.
I hate this harms. I don't even have the energy to
kind of tell you how much I hate it.
I know you want. It hurts really bad and I
characteristic of a great drafter is being able to Pivot
on the Fly and then make it work and you just fucking threw in
the towel. When you didn't get hurt, you
literally started crying. He picked up your ball and you
ran home. Is this kitchen steep earlier?
Was that bad? Yeah.
Okay wait. What if 2 is the guy you need
says Chris G. And then I'm not prepared
harvest season up here. It's not going.
This is not the existential crisis for the question.
It also harms Harvest is taking Fuller, you know, 25 pigs at ATP
because in the nights of Degen it ft Discord to show Kaiser
said that he doesn't want to play.
Say in Green Bay. That's your Alpha Li carbs you
don't have to reach. 425 pick that ATP because deshone Kizer
said that I agree. Carlos.
That's probably a 5qb build. All right, Cory W.
It fellow use here. A 358 to build just in fields.
Daniel Jones, Mac Jones. Calvin could cam Akers CH
Michael Carter, Sony, Michelle digs Johnson Bateman Cooks, a
lot of a Datsun Parker Pringle Hawkinson Fant.
Yeah, I mean you got these I guess Mike Jones had a good
rookie year but to two other young quarterbacks that have not
proved that they could play at the NFL level.
It's a there's a lot of upside of this QB room.
Let's say that. I mean downside through, they
have you seen Daniel Jones? Like everyone talks about him,
ya dis theoretical, there's a very real like possibility,
Daniel Jones lose his job, midseason, to Tyrod Taylor.
The bridge quarterback to know where Steven stack bro and
unstack Daniel Jones. I mean, what are we even doing
here? What's the point of Daniel Johns
on back? Here, was there any environment
Pringle did he got burned Pringle silly stack them up with
Fields so he's standing Fact, he's covered God, I hate it.
I mean, your first two running backs are dolphin cooking cam
Akers. Those guys are definitely going
to stay healthy after that. How did you finish out this 5
running back? Build three guys, that are just
very delay. It gets he did get CH where I've
been begging CH to go for a look at what you got.
You got CHF. Adjusted.
ATP is basically you got about that, but that's like this.
ATP is what I'm like. That's what I'll actually start
taking him in normal leagues. No but you hit on Pete.
There's no stacking here. That's the I don't even see like
any real minis. I guess there's a you got to
Bateman Deonte That is there something I'm missing?
I don't really see much going on at all.
In terms of correlation. Do you think we really had a
great value on Brandin Cooks in this room?
I mean, that's and he's got a, he's got a Sony DeVante Parker
mini. That's what I don't even think
that counts. Yeah so I just to kind of
summarize just is super shitty team but be so bad that we can't
really figure. I mean these are the boring is
players in the entire dry. You just got all of the boring
players. I don't really have anything
else that you staying ahead of the Avalanche but you're still
completely dead to win the store doing huh?
All right Harps. Everyone else in Alpine or not.
After dig, the idea videos do wide receivers, it's just his
team is like very value Hound oriented as you can see, but
like, unfortunately, the name of the value Hound is Old Yeller.
Yeah. I mean, even the rookies, like a
lava and Datsun. Like, I mean, we trying to get
the least sexy rookies like this is the Bolton boring.
Let's just like, have fun. Enjoy your life, a little.
No, do something like you ever eat spicy food?
Is this like you just order cheese pizza?
Friday nights. Like what?
What is this team? Yeah, just having missionary sex
eating. Vanilla ice cream drafting
Datsun. I mean, it was, it wasn't even a
value. I mean, you took your Han Datsun
at pick 114 that was the statement pick John Dodson, I
just happen to pick a song. Tell what can the people expect
for this year's? Penta FM PC Main Event live
stream that we're still trying to nail down a date to schedule
chaos. Ass and I promise 11 other guys
screaming about how we got there.
We had, did we have historically done, we bounced around, we've
done FB, geez, we did we've done KF F SC together but this year,
the penta is moving on up to the present for the advanced.
We're just going on there, cockroach.
Yeah. What the fuck.
Fuck you. Is that dude it looks like a
beetle. Yeah, I think that's like its
color. It's red.
Hang on, hang on. I think I know what does it
does. It have a handlebar mustache in
it mango? IPA.
It's going on in your apartment pad.
Is infested with a little tiny bug.
Nope. All right, we appreciate you all
for hanging out. Watching bug chasing tonight, at
our Waters at our feet. Assad, anything else on the
horizon? Can the can the chat motivate
you to write another article here?
Yeah, I'm hoping to try to get some stuff out here over the
summer and then you know you can hopefully catches on wrote Of
His Radio some points and we've been we've been through lazy to
get the street in the Pod going, but we will be back again.
We need that pot back in our lives.
Eggs and excited to sync up with Blair again, grach anything on
your end. I'm just so ready to chats that
Pat is the bad alien. Fermented black and for doing
some good shows with Sean started the pot series with
Leone. Someone asked earlier what we're
doing next. I think we going to be to the
West divisions. We did the East divisions first.
Doing the ETR pot with Herzig tomorrow, going to be drafting a
nice puppy team. I think I smell that pizza
parties gonna go. When, when one of those teams
shifts, it I'm really looking for that pizza party.
What's that about? I don't know that.
It's like, yeah. Hey apparently, I missed this
dream but apparently instead of dealing with the implications of
actually splitting up the the grand prize, the he's gonna
throw big. Party for everyone.
Just dreams, you know, you got to watch.
You gotta watch the first movie did with Leone.
What? He kind of like a doubts that
Leo, he was just like so offended.
He's like, I don't want a fucking pizza party, I want y 1
million dollars by river like 1 million dollars.
Yeah, going to be writing some offseason ceiling signals posts
at the newsletter as well. Kitten that fired back of those
can be very Adept team by team stuff.
What I'm seeing as I go through projections and really just
like, do the Deep analysis on each team, as I go through the
projection process. Not so focused on the actual
projections, those are going to be coming either this week or
next. I'm trying to get them all done
by the end of July. So a lot of a lot of stuff
coming on the newsletter in the next few weeks.
Awesome Pat, what about you? We've been doing these podcast
episodes on a good football show.
Will bring it on beat writers. In those have been pretty cool.
Been Raven was on from the Lions on Monday was talking up.
TJ Hawkinson in a big way talking.
If I'm in a rusty, Brown, talking about and race with
saying, they want to use him as a three down guy, want to get
him involved as a rusher, not just utilize them as kind of a
receiving style back. So lots of lots of good stuff on
that one, and we'll be doing those every Monday.
Aw, Awesome. And yeah, as I mentioned get,
take your shot, which is Kitchen on the swell cast, yes, or
today. Absolutely hilarious.
And then your Chaser is Kitchen on the randomizer tomorrow
night. I don't know why I've waited
this long to do the randomizer with kitchen because the prompts
I'm getting coming in or just absolutely incredible.
So that is going to be a really fun show tomorrow, at 7 p.m.
Eastern tune in for that. And we will see you guys next
week. Peace out.
Thank you Hasan for joining us.