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Hello everyone and welcome to a 
special week 7 edition of In 

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Season 80P Chasing. 
In week six we saw the debut of 

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Drake, May, Kamani Vidal. 
Russell Wilson's calf had 

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another set back. 
Tons of interesting things to 

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talk about. 
Let's get into it. 

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ADP chasing is for when you 
watch ship chasing you go these 

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guys are just football guys. 
And the targets for outrun 

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leagues, that's going to be 
really nice, actually. 

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Back in if it's Austinette. 
It's tear into our crystal ball.

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close your eyes. 
You know all your entries are 

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going to lose anyway. 
Yeah, that's fair. 

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This is a Dusvan show. 
It's. 

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Anti cabal. 
It's anti the best ball thought 

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leader. 
I'm obviously lying to some 

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degree because like, I have a 
lot of both of these guys. 

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It's the most disgusting thing 
you can make. 

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But man. 
Hey everyone, welcome to week 

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seven in season 80P chasing. 
We're still here, victory 

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lapping, coping bag defending. 
We got to start the show with 

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the debut of Drake May in New 
England. 

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Pat, I know that people want to 
hear your reaction to that. 

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How did you feel watching him 
this past? 

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And this can just double as my 
my victory lap. 

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Frankly, he looked great. 
Like he looks fun. 

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He had mistakes, right? 
He threw a bad interception. 

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It was like an Anthony 
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See. 
Like what was that supposed to 

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go? 
Type of interception in a clean 

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pocket. 
Incredible that Trevor Lawrence 

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is getting included in that 
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I mean, should he not? 
Because to me, he's also the 

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prototype. 
Yeah. 

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And so that was, like, very much
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He finally got good protection 
through a pick. 

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He had another pick that was 
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It was a good defensive play, 
but you know, maybe he should 

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have walked to the pass more. 
But to me that that was a good 

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defensive play on the bat and 
then an incredible defensive 

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play to get the interception. 
Don't care about that. 

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Took some sacks, had a strip 
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Probably need to to speed up the
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offensive line he's playing 
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But also like he scrambled. 
He has a really good feel for 

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one to scramble. 
He had that incredible pass, the

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40 yard touchdown pass to 
bootay. 

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Obviously, dude. 
That Pharrell. 

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Yeah, but but also stuff where 
he's just like in rhythm, thrown

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over the middle to guys like in 
stride and then they're they're 

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like running after the catch, 
allowing guys to get yards after

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the catch. 
Is is like this the offense had 

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life in it. 
As I said before the game, I I 

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was just like, I just want to 
see him breathe some life into 

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this offense, make mistakes and 
then do fun stuff. 

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And so it's exactly what I was 
hoping we would get. 

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Now, obviously I'm going to be 
excited for more when he faces 

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the Jaguars to just a terrible 
defense, but this was the number

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one defense on impression rate 
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So can I, can I voice my 
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I mean, obviously that felt 
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I mean, to know if I, if you 
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six months ago that on the 
Mahomes by I was going to get 

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what, 23 underdog points from 
Drake May like my 18% or 

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whatever would have been more 
like 35% probably. 

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Like just the fact that I didn't
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starting in week 6 was like the 
biggest limiting factor of me 

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taking more of him. 
The concern I would have is that

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sometimes they're not going to 
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And the concern I would have 
would be they didn't really open

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anything up until the 
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They they didn't really start 
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It was the IT was the final play
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It was the two-minute drill 
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And you know, these games, these
divisional games against The 

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Jets, these divisional games 
against the Bills, against the 

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Dolphins, like these are going 
to be rock fights. 

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So there are definitely going to
be some weeks where he throws 21

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passes. 
Yeah, like that. 

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But that is that obviously is a 
very minor concern because 

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everything we said on on this 
show for the last year, which is

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that Drake May plays fantasy 
football in a very fun way. 

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He he he is not conservative by 
his nature. 

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He was not conservative by his 
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And some of the some of the 
throws that people are going to 

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mock on social media, it's like,
dude, he was just jazzed up. 

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I mean, I think you could just 
tell pretty clearly, like he was

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just like the the bad 
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making those two months from 
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OK. 
But like, it's a big moment for 

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you, Drake. 
Also, I mean like if he goes out

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there and as he throws a 40 yard
touchdown pass and then he 

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throws a pick 6, those are not 
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You know, they're equivalent 
outcomes for points and in some 

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ways coaches would like, much 
prefer that you just not throw 

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either of the passes than than 
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Like they're not, they're not 
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Pick 6 is worse than a 
touchdown. 

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It coaches mine and obviously 
you can get yourself benched and

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all of that. 
So it's not like who cares? 

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But going out there and throwing
3 touchdown passes with the two 

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interceptions and a strip sack 
in your debut? 

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Great every time. 
Yeah, yeah, a couple notes on 

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that. 
I think I agree with all what 

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you're saying. 
I think everything we thought 

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about Drake may go into this 
game was confirmed like the 

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terrible online. 
He had 11% sack rate on the 

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season. 
That's second highest amongst 

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all NFL starting quarterbacks, 
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Wonder what's going on there. 
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scramble rate amongst all 
quarterbacks behind only Jayden 

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Daniels. 
Jayden Daniels is at 15% 

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scrambler rate, Drake Mays at 
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That's as a percentage of drop 
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So that's really exciting that 
he's you know, it's only one 

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week sample, but immediately 
scrambling nearly as much as 

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Jayden Daniels and far more than
Josh Allen, Justin Fields, Lamar

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Jack and that's really exciting 
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So. 
That was a big part of the 

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profile too, is that he's not 
going to have the design run 

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stuff of a of a dual threat, but
he scrambles a lot and he's 

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really good at it. 
Yeah, yeah, he's a very good 

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runner. 
I thought that certainly passed 

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the eye test as well. 
All right, we'll get into our 

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victory laps and bag defending. 
I I have a feeling that maybe we

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stole Pat's victory lap there, 
but I'm done. 

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I'm good. 
I did want to get to a weekly 

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segment on this show. 
The status of Russell Wilson's 

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calf and how healthy it looked 
on the sidelines this week. 

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Davis. 
Yeah, we'll, we'll give it to 

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you at first. 
So Carane made this great point 

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last week that, like this game 
against the Raiders was really 

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an inflection point for Justin 
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Like you lose this game and 
we're talking about Russ is 

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starting this week and fields 
doesn't get a contract extension

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and is like Blake. 
Basically Blake Bortles like he 

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he'll spend a year backing up 
Marcus Mariota actually probably

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is the better the better comp or
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Be Mario is a great comp. 
Where he's just a A1 year backup

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a lot now. 
I, I, I mean, I would make it 

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-120 the Steelers sign him to a 
long term contract, I think. 

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I think at this point and dude, 
you just, Sam, you, you are such

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a Fields hater. 
Like you just, it is inarguable,

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man. 
He's playing the football they 

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want him to play. 
I'm not going to say he's 

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playing great football, but 
they're, he's doing exactly what

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they want him to do. 
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that he's got enough of the mat.
The dude, like he converted a 

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1/3 and 14 on like a quarterback
blast, like a play that is 

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designed to fail and set up a 
punt. 

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He converts a first down and 
like Russell Wilson can't do 

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that. 
Very few guys can do that. 

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He he's not going to get a, the 
a Tua type, he's not going to 

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get 160 million. 
What he's going to get is he's 

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going to get the Jordan Love 
contract, the first one. 

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The first one. 
Yeah, it, it was like I, what 

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was it, $28 million a year or 
something with a team option. 

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But like he, he's going to be 
the Steelers starting 

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quarterback next year, I think 
is my for sure is my guess. 

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I, I, I would be pretty 
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I mean, obviously he he could 
not be by by bombing the rest of

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the way, but at this point, I 
would be surprised if he wasn't 

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their starting quarterback. 
I mean, frankly, like the 

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Steelers really lucked out to 
get Justin Fields for free. 

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Like that was that was just a 
huge, like just cell phone by 

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the rest of the league and they 
just handed this this starting 

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quarterback to them. 
Where else would he be a good 

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fit and where else would he be 
the right starter? 

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I bet, I bet the Dolphins would 
like to have him right now. 

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Yeah, but they just paid 2. 
He was available for backup. 

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He was available to be a backup.
But his contract is big because 

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he he was a first round pick. 
So like his contract is more 

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than an average backup salary. 
James Bean, the Raiders are a 

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bad fit. 
Yeah, I think it's sure about 

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that. 
I believe it's 12 and a half, 

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$1,000,000 off the top of my 
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So here's why the Raiders 
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Luke Getzi was just. 
No, it's $3,000,000. 

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You're. 
Going to cost $3,000,000 against

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the cap. 
I'm wrong, I'm wrong. 

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It's it's a sick country. 
Why do I think that? 

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Well, because the league treated
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He was like a $50 million bum. 
I don't know. 

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Yeah, but I, I mean, I'm, I'm 
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Fields isn't playing decently 
and is not playing better than 

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probably what Russell Wilson 
would give him out there. 

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But let's just like level set a 
little bit like the Steelers 

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wins this year are against that 
Raiders team, against a chargers

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team in the game where Justin 
Herbert got injured, Joel got 

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injured. 
Rashawn Slater got injured 

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against the Denver Broncos and 
against the Falcons in that week

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one game where the Falcons could
only run pistol cause Kirk 

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Cousins couldn't move or 
whatever that weirdness was week

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one against the Falcons. 
So again, decent players and and

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well coached, well coached teams
should beat bad teams. 

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Like I'm not saying strip all of
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That's. 
Ridiculous, but find 8 losses on

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their schedule. 
They get to play home to The 

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Jets. 
Win. 

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They're they're not. 
They're not losing to that team.

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They get to play home to the 
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Be so good. 
They get to play home to the 

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Giants, That's a win road to the
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They'll lose that home to the 
Ravens, they'll lose that road 

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to the Browns. 
Easy win. 

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I mean, just just like the the 
Browns shouldn't even show up to

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that game. 
It's going to be they're they're

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they're going to get two wins 
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they're going to get to 10 wins.
I. 

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Don't know man, the. 
The other thing is that like you

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got to remember the 
organization. 

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This is the Steelers. 
This is like culture, you know, 

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leadership and like maybe 
getting a win in the wild card 

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round. 
Like that's that's the point of 

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the organization. 
You know, this is he's the 

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perfect guy. 
Like is, is am I saying he's 

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going to like lead them to Super
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No, he's not. 
He's going to like, they're 

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going to squeak in the playoffs 
a few times and they're going to

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be psyched about it. 
Yeah, this is like the whole 

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game for them. 
I don't know, I, I, I just think

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this I think he's playing well, 
but I think it's like still much

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more of a fragile situation. 
Like there was a play in this 

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game in the red zone, Justin 
Fields throws a terrible red 

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zone interception and they 
actually I've never seen this on

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broadcast on a broadcast before.
I've never seen this before. 

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They actually like zoom in on 
Russell Wilson's like calf and 

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you see the health bar on his 
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100. 
I've never seen them do this in 

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the broadcast before. 
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And then they overturn the play 
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it. 
Drops. 

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Dramatically so. 
I'm just saying like, I think 

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there's a little more fragility 
in here than like -150 odds that

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Justin Fields gets a long term 
contract with the Steelers. 

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Who do you? 
I'm not really who do you? 

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Think Who do you think is better
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Justin Fields or CJ Stroud? 
It's fields. 

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I was going to play this. 
Team fields. 

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Yeah, it's fields. 
Fields Here are some 

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quarterbacks that Fields has 
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Play I'm I'm mad you looked this
up, Davis, because I was going 

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to ask you Fields or Mahomes. 
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Is Mahomes. 
It is. 

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Mahomes, Mahomes, Mahomes has 
already entered into his 40 year

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old Drew Brees arc where you 
just keep getting mad at how 

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shitty he is and it just makes 
him stronger. 

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The the more angry that everyone
gets to the Chiefs, the shittier

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they're going to play and the 
more they're going to win. 

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It's like they have this game 
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they're going to throw. 
They're going to be so bad and 

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the the, the result of this game
is not going to be in doubt for 

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a moment like it's it's going to
be, it's going to be 

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unbelievable. 
People are going to be so mad 

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that they're going to win this 
game anyway. 

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Field is playing fine. 
He. 

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He's playing fine. 
I'm not trying to be a player. 

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He's he's playing fine and it's,
it's undeniable. 

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Like his athleticist. 
He's playing his athleticist. 

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He's up there with he's up there
with Geno Smith. 

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He's not far behind Sam Darnold.
Like, give the guy credit. 

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I'm not saying he's going to 
play. 

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Maybe in the computers, but I 
don't know like but but my 

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problem with Justin Fields 
again, I was, I was going to 

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give him credit like exactly. 
You don't. 

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You're not into the computers 
now, Sam on on ADP. 

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I just don't. 
I don't believe that. 

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This is the football for play. 
Honestly, the football guy stuff

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he looks better he he looks 
better on the field than the 

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than the numbers would suggest 
Like like the football guy stuff

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works to your disadvantage here 
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Don't know about that. 
I haven't seen, I've never seen 

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any more hardened bias than this
bias. 

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This is why I'm not saying this 
dude is looking good. 

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He's he's reviving his career 
and you're just like pissing all

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over it. 
I'm not saying he he sucks. 

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I'm just saying that like 
there's very few plays. 

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You're not going to, you're not 
going to be finish my point. 

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So we're just going to move on. 
Let's move on. 

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To what is that you don't like 
Justin Fields and it's been well

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made well. 
Made I've gone, I've gone 

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halfway through sentence 6 times
and you're not let me finish. 

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So we're moving on victory 
lapping bag, defending Crane, 

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you got you're going to go with 
manage for victory lap. 

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Yeah, and there was Sam said 
that he hasn't he hasn't done 

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enough for me to victory lap him
yet. 

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I think that's he just has in 
this matchup, right. 

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We were going to, I thought it 
was going to have to come on and

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cope. 
It's a victory lap that I'm not 

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here coping. 
You look good. 

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Different. 
Different Sam. 

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Sam Sherman. 
Different, Sam. 

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Sorry, not you, Sam. 
One of the Sam, one of the one 

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of the commenters is nay, Drake 
May. 

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Yeah, he scored. 
He scored more fantasy. 

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For the same same as the chat 
first start. 

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Yes. 
All right, move on. 

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We already talked to Drake May. 
What did you have, Davis for 

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your victory lap player this 
week? 

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I mean, it's got to be, it's got
to be Debo, right? 

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Scores the scores the 80 yard 
touchdown in another game people

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the the the Brandon Naive people
had their one moment in the sun 

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where he had like like 13 dog 
out points. 

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I mean, it's just like with with
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on the team who makes the 
difference that they want to use

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and it's Debo. 
Now obviously Kittle. 

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Kittle, like if you take in 
positional value and like 

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blocking and everything is 
probably the most important guy 

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on the 49ers this year. 
But it, I mean, this is what 

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insiders have always said, this 
is what all the 49ers beat 

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writers have always said, is 
that Kyle can pretend he's a 

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genius all he wants, but if you 
take Debo off the field, he 

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loses his, he loses the, the, 
the, the, his, his queen. 

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He loses the the most important 
chess piece in his board because

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Debo makes you defend vertically
and horizontally. 

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Debo made an incredible play on 
a shitty Brock Purdy throw, by 

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the way, to score that to score 
that well, I mean people, but 

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the film guys been arguing for 
like 10 days. 

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It's tearing people apart on if 
Purdy made a good throw or a bad

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throw on on that play. 
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a specifically in the game that 
we play where as someone with a 

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down bad portfolio can tell you 
the thing you really need is 25 

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point weeks, like 18 point 
weeks, 18 point weeks are nice, 

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but they're really like if 
you're 40 points behind in week 

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6, a bunch of 18 point weeks are
not going to get you there. 

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What you need is you need a guy 
who can get 25. 

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What you need is a guy who can 
get 30. 

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And Debo like started out in 
May, dude, he's going to like 

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the 2-3 turn. 
You know, he's going after a lab

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a going after a waddle, just 
like insane stuff. 

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So yeah, so I'm doing, I'm doing
Debo as my. 

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Victory lap. 
I like that one. 

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And I also wonder now if, like 
the rushing thesis for Debo, I 

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actually thought about this last
week even before Mason got hurt,

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that this Christian McCaffrey 
lining up and running back stuff

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unlock so many things that the 
49ers want to do in the red 

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zone. 
And I think Debo can like 

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somewhat approximate that when 
they line them up and running 

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back. 
And now with Jordan Mason banged

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up, I wonder if we see even more
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Debo over the next few weeks. 
We'll see on. 

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Another thing all the 49ers guys
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they've been in the red zone, 
saying it's McCaffrey and like, 

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yeah, I mean, Debo is the only 
one who I mean, no, no. 

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He's the closest one to yeah, 
yeah, to McCaffrey. 

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Yeah. 
That that while we're here like 

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any, any quick Gorendo versus 
Patrick Taylor takes Crane, have

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you thought about this at all 
for like waivers or anything 

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next week? 
Any takes on those guys or is 

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it? 
Still not. 

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Not yet, no. 
Yeah, I mean, runner looked fine

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I guess. 
He had that big run Mason has. 

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10 days to get back though and 
they said his injury was not 

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serious. 
Yeah, that is true. 

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So we'll we'll see on that one. 
Still too early to tell. 

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I'll do my victory lap take with
Kamani Vidal. 

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Yeah, this. 
I was huge. 

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Yeah, I think so. 
Obviously, like he still is not,

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he's not taking over the 
backfield from JK Dobbins. 

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I think it's pretty crazy to say
that. 

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But I think kind of the thesis 
with Vidal was that either one 

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of Dobbins or Gus Edwards would 
get out of the way and open up 

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opportunities for him. 
I think it was tough to click 

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him in August, September when it
looked like it'd be a healthy 

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scratch to start the season. 
There was even concerns is he 

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going to make the team. 
I'm glad that I didn't panic too

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much on that because I think the
thesis has played out that Gus 

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Edwards, you know, he had a good
career, but at his stage of his 

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career he was not getting it 
done at all on IR with ankle 

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injury. 
I don't think we're going to see

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much of Gus Edwards again this 
season barring injuries to these

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top guys. 
And to me, Vidal look good, like

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he he caught that wheel pass 
down the field, made a pretty 

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good catch on that for a 30 yard
touchdown, Held up pretty well 

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in pass protection, which is 
kind of the role he was trusted 

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in and the role that in college 
people liked him in and Troy 

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there. 
And yeah, I thought like 

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watching him nothing special as 
a runner, but he's just seems 

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like a guy that can do a little 
bit of everything, like is big 

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enough to do some interior runs,
is capable enough to go out 

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there and catch some passes. 
So if a Dobbins injury happens, 

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I think this could be a big win.
And also, I mean, you got it. 

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It sucks to like even talk about
because this this Dobbins come 

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back story is so awesome but a 
guy like Dobbins getting 25 

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carries a game which he got this
past. 

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Week prior career high in rush 
attempts in the National 

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Football League. 
Oh, like. 1617. 17 his his 

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previous career, he he had 
reached his previous career high

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in the third quarter. 
Yeah, wow. 

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So I honestly kind of hope for 
Dobbins own sake that they even 

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this out a little bit. 
We. 

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Should really try and not do 
that. 

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They should really be like we're
up, we're up two touchdowns 

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against the Broncos. 
Why don't we let the sixth round

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rookie, We don't care if he's on
the team next year. 

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Get the ball. 
Yeah, I agree with that. 

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Yeah. 
Grant, anything else to to Adam 

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Vidal? 
I know he was someone you were 

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targeting this offseason as 
well. 

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Well, one thing I wish I thought
of right, this is like some real

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we had to see it for the for for
the my my third eye to open 

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here. 
But we should have been 

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correlating by Dahl by Dell, 
right? 

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We're betting against Gus 
Edwards. 

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Gus Edwards is just a product of
the Ravens probably should have 

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some more Derrick Henry on those
teams. 

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We're we're against by Dell, by 
Dell, Gus Edwards. 

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It's just because Lamar could 
make anyone awesome. 

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Oh, well, maybe Derrick Henry 
will have another good year 

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then. 
So yeah, didn't didn't think to 

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do that by Dell. 
Derrick Henry teams would feel 

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pretty fun right now. 
Pretty sure I don't have many of

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those. 
Yeah, I checked my Derrick Henry

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exposure and again, as has 
become famous on Twitter over 

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the past few weeks, I did not 
draft a ton of teams underdog 

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this year. 
So it's questionable if I even 

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am allowed to do the show. 
But of my like 4045 teams, I 

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drafted an underdog this year. 
I ended up with like 15% Derrick

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Henry. 
I don't know if that means like 

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four teams or whatever. 
It's not not like some crazy 

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amount, but yeah, happy with 
that one. 

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I agree, Pat. 
Like there was so much talk 

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about, oh, Gus Adridge is only a
product of Lamar Jackson, the 

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Ravens, but we didn't use that 
to. 

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Say, why don't we? 
Yeah, why don't we draft the 

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generational running back who is
going to play with Lamar 

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Jackson? 
The Ravens 'cause. 

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He's very good. 
I know, but I but we just said 

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Gus Edwards. 
Gus Edwards was. 

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You know Gus Edwards is. 
Yeah, I officially I, I 

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officially do not feel bad about
fading Barkley, Henry or Kamara 

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like I'm I'm going to have a 
bad. 

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Seat. 
I do, I do. 

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He was cheap. 
OK, it's fair. 

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Fair. 
Yeah, we should have. 

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We should. 
Have. 

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Taken them, but but you know, 
that's I mean, that's the 

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annoying thing is no one no one 
is is saying, Oh, I was so smart

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to draft Josh Jacobs. 
I was so smart to draft Travis 

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ETN. 
I was so smart to draft James 

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Cook. 
Even James Cook, who like is 

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kind of kind of breaking out. 
People are like, you know, 

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whatever. 
Berkeley and Henry, I'm not like

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kicking myself for but I, you 
know, I do think. 

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Kamara, Kamara, you're right. 
You're right. 

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Yeah, we should have taken more 
Kamara. 

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Especially on DraftKings. 
Especially on DraftKings. 

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Well, he was more expensive on 
DraftKings. 

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I actually more met myself. 
Than underdog where he was. 

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Sometimes, yeah, but he would 
fall like further on underdog, I

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said. 
I'm I'm more irritated with 

450
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,240
myself about that. 
One. 

451
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,720
Yeah, All right, let's move on 
to bag defending. 

452
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,400
We'll let Davis you go first in 
this one. 

453
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,280
Who's the player that you're bag
defending this week? 

454
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,480
So I was thinking about this and
it's going to be a it's going to

455
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,600
be a bit of a weird one, but I'm
going to bag defend Blake Corum,

456
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,520
who now is like kind of a 
popular drop or into we're into 

457
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,560
the bye weeks, we're into the 
injuries. 

458
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,000
And so people are just looking 
at their rosters and they're 

459
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,760
like, oh, why do I have why do I
have this idiot on my roster? 

460
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,760
Right. 
And I think Kyron's role being 

461
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:59,400
so good is both evidence that 
Quorum was a great pick and a 

462
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,040
bad pick, depending on your 
view. 

463
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,040
Because obviously part of the 
reason why Quorum was so high 

464
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,920
was because there was some 
thought, oh, this is going to be

465
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,880
a timeshare we're going to get. 
It's going to be two drives for 

466
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,320
Chiron, one drive for Quorum. 
So that proved not to be true. 

467
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,160
Instead, what Blake Quorum is, 
is just the stone nuts. 

468
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,760
Best handcuff in fantasy 
football. 

469
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,000
He already it's it they they 
came out of the OR they went 

470
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,560
into the buy and Ronnie Rivers 
is gone. 

471
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,920
Right. 
So Ronnie Rivers is is done now.

472
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,200
He he got no, I think he got one
offensive snap in the most 

473
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,280
recent game. 
Quorum got his stuff instead. 

474
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,200
So now you just have and, and 
obviously the way people view it

475
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,840
is, oh, well, Kyron hasn't 
gotten injured yet, so quorum is

476
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,840
a bad pick. 
Quorum is, is too expensive. 

477
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,680
Well, guess what, If Kyron 
Williams turns his ankle or gets

478
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,880
food poisoning or whatever, then
Blake Quorum ends up being the 

479
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,720
guy you absolutely had to have 
like a guy who's averaging like 

480
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,440
22 fantasy points per game in 
the 10th round. 

481
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,480
And I just, it's to me, it's 
just such a we, I'm doing so 

482
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,760
much more content this year. 
I'm writing content, I'm doing 

483
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,680
all these videos and everything.
So I get much more feedback than

484
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:18,760
I ever have in the past and the 
feedback I get is so short 

485
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,680
sighted. 
It's so whatever just happened 

486
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,160
and whatever's happened this 
season was the way it was always

487
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,640
going to go. 
Jordan Mason was always the best

488
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,600
pick in best ball, right? 
We just did this with Jordan 

489
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:30,640
Mason. 
Like we can't. 

490
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,120
I can't believe we're taking 
McCaffrey one O 1. 

491
00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:35,840
He's hurt lol. 
Jordan Mason is the nuts. 

492
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,920
But also, why bother holding 
Blake Cormoran It's. 

493
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,400
Yes, but what? 
How could Blake Cormoran have 

494
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,600
possibly been a good pick when 
you could have just taken Jordan

495
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,720
Mason? 
How about how about I mean you 

496
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,640
want to talk about a a real 
sliding glass door that is going

497
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,440
to determine who wins a lot of 
money in fantasy football this 

498
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,080
year? 
This is maybe even more managed 

499
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,680
than best ball, but how about 
Carson Steele getting 17 rushes 

500
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,960
and doubling up Samaj P Ryan and
routes in the first game without

501
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,600
Pacheco and then immediately 
fumbling in the next game? 

502
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,040
So the, the, the, the cream hunt
people, of which there were many

503
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,680
in the FFPC circles, you know 
they've been doing this. 

504
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,000
Dude, you're such an idiot. 
Why did you not spend all this 

505
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,160
fab money on Kareem Hunt? 
I'm pretty confident. 

506
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,160
I, I, I'm with like a 70% degree
of confidence. 

507
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,600
Steele doesn't fumble in that 
game. 

508
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,000
Kareem Hunt is is getting like 4
rushes a game. 

509
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,960
Maybe I maybe. 
I'm at least about that. 

510
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,880
But Steele is still involved. 
I agree with that at least that 

511
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,000
the the takeover wouldn't have 
been like immediate I I don't 

512
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,720
think that it's impossible. 
Hunt would have found a way to 

513
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,040
win the job eventually anyways, 
but still started that next game

514
00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:46,720
and was getting all the touches 
and snaps before he fumble. 

515
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,520
So that's the thing, like the 
problem with results based 

516
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,800
analysis and fantasy is that 
like some of these things are so

517
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,320
unpredictable fumbles, these 
really fragile running back 

518
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,320
situations like fumbles to turn 
the determine the rotation way 

519
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,920
more than we want to admit and 
good luck predicting which these

520
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,120
dust ball. 
Zack Moss Zack Moss fumble 

521
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:09,720
yesterday like that could Zack 
Moss's fumble yesterday could 

522
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,240
change the context of the rest 
of the season because I, I 

523
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,600
actually did want to make this 
point. 

524
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,120
We could do Chase Brown like 
minute right here real quick. 

525
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,960
So Chase Brown can survive a 
fumble, which he did in that 

526
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,480
game. 
He fumble and then they gave the

527
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,960
ball back to him. 
Chase Brown can survive a fumble

528
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,880
because the Bengals offense 
cannot function without a guy 

529
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,760
offering explosives in the 
running game. 

530
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,480
Zach Moss can't really survive a
fumble because the only reason 

531
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,440
he's on the field is to not make
a mistake. 

532
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:42,040
That is the Zach Moss is on the 
field to just not make a 

533
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,920
mistake, right. 
And if you make mistakes when 

534
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,280
you're Zach Moss, it is yeah. 
And and the the chat, the chat 

535
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,920
is correct about saying like the
if if Brown loses the fumble. 

536
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,000
Yeah, I mean all of that, all 
that stuff. 

537
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,440
True. 
But anyways, that's a long way 

538
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,880
of saying I'm bag defending just
the concept of high upside 

539
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,320
handcuff running backs basically
with Blake Quorum. 

540
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,960
I did want to add one thing on 
Quorum that I thought was 

541
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,120
interesting in addition to like 
the the snaps you got last week.

542
00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:13,040
If you just look at the 
percentage of snaps, it's not 

543
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,840
that exciting. 14% of the snaps,
18% of the rush attempts. 

544
00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:19,800
That's not a huge difference 
from the stuff that Ronnie 

545
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,960
Rivers was getting over the 
first couple weeks. 

546
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,720
But he did get two of the three 
inside the five carries in Week 

547
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,120
5. 
Now he got stuffed on both of 

548
00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:31,360
them and then Kyron came in and 
converted the touchdown. 

549
00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:34,920
So not all good news there, but 
at least speaks to the like the 

550
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:38,760
idea of the interchangeability 
of Blake Gorham and Kyron 

551
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,280
Williams. 
We saw at least in that moment, 

552
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,960
Sean McVeigh when they're on the
goal line, didn't panic and say 

553
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:44,960
we got to get Blake out of 
there. 

554
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,800
We got to get in there all the. 
Time out to send Kyron in. 

555
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,920
Exactly. 
So I think, you know, I'm not 

556
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,840
saying I, I believe this, I put 
the odds of this at, I don't 

557
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,040
know, 20%. 
But post by going into week 

558
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,240
seven, I do believe there's a 
chance we see something closer 

559
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,000
to the two drives for Kyron, one
drive for Blake, Quorum, maybe 

560
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,560
something closer to the 6535 
split that we maybe thought was 

561
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,080
possible. 
Like Royce Freeman was was one 

562
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,280
drive to Kyron 2 drives. 
Like we we we literally have 

563
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,920
seen McVeigh do this. 
Yeah, it's not impossible, and 

564
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,400
there is a long history of 
McVeigh using one back, but 

565
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,760
there also is a equally long 
history of him using a committee

566
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,760
that people don't like to admit 
or talk about now when he has a 

567
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,720
back as good as Kyron Williams, 
as good as Todd. 

568
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:31,440
Yeah. 
That's what it is. 

569
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,920
It's when he doesn't have. 
It's when he had Daryl 

570
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,600
Henderson, he used the committee
and pretty much. 

571
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:35,760
Every time. 
Yeah. 

572
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,440
Yeah, but I, I don't think, I 
don't know, spent a third round 

573
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,480
pick on Core. 
I'm not ruling out the idea of 

574
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,760
him forcing a 6535 committee 
some point this season. 

575
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,400
Kyron. 
Speaking of fumbles, Kyron also 

576
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,600
did fumble in Week 5. 
So. 

577
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,960
I'm pretty skeptical that that 
happens because McVeigh can't 

578
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,280
help himself. 
Like it's, you know, it's like, 

579
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,880
it's like Shanahan when he gets 
like McCaffrey out there, like 

580
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,360
he just like plays him way too 
much. 

581
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,680
And then, you know, he gets hurt
and it's like, can you just 

582
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:04,920
rotate him a little? 
But they can't. 

583
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:10,600
They can't help themselves, but 
that same instinct is why Jordan

584
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,360
Mason's out there all the time 
and would be why corn would be 

585
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,560
out there all the time. 
So I think like you just got to 

586
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,480
it's like to me, I actually am a
big believer in that the he's, 

587
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,720
you know, going to ride a guy he
trusts. 

588
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,640
Not that he has to have a one 
back because if he doesn't trust

589
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,800
anybody, doesn't trust anybody, 
but if you trust someone, he's 

590
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,400
going to stick with them. 
But I think quorum could be that

591
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,160
guy if if Karen went down. 
So to me that one back thing is 

592
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,440
a double edged. 
I mean, to spend a third round 

593
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,480
pick on a running back with the 
roster they they have is is 

594
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,200
pretty crazy dude. 
It's pretty crazy. 

595
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,800
That that yeah, that's my only 
thing is that he's not some 

596
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,240
nobody Ronnie Rivers type guy. 
But I I yeah, I'm not saying 

597
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,040
that like I'm predicting Blake 
horms and get 40% on the snaps 

598
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,680
versus the season. 
That's that's crazy. 

599
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,880
I'm just saying there, I think 
there's a chance. 

600
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,920
There was just real quick and 
then we can be done with this. 

601
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,320
There was a little bit of 
chatter from the chat about 

602
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,040
Ronnie Rivers. 
Ronnie Rivers has been on the 

603
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,600
Rams for three seasons now. 
They, they randomly suddenly 

604
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,680
started him in one game. 
He is like maybe the worst 

605
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,960
runner on an NFL roster. 
He, he, he is like insanely bad.

606
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,080
So I I'm pretty confident if 
Kyron gets injured, we're not 

607
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,240
going to see much. 
Ronnie Rivers. 

608
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,160
You see some, it's funny, like 
when Kyron's in there, like, you

609
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,560
know, if you're like sweating a 
Kyron performance, like you see 

610
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,480
Ronnie Rivers in there, you're 
like, what's Ronnie Rivers doing

611
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,840
in there? 
And then you like, look, and 

612
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,400
it's like, I don't have like 89%
of the snaps. 

613
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,120
So like you will see a little, 
but I think it would be kind of 

614
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,360
like that, like Quorum would be 
out there like 80% of the snaps 

615
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,960
pretty much right away. 
Because yeah, if he doesn't, he 

616
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,440
doesn't trust the dude. 
He's not going to blame him 

617
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,640
much. 
Yeah, and I think it's more 

618
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,120
than. 
I think it's more that when he 

619
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,680
trusts someone, that guy 
displays. 

620
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,040
It's not even like, that's why 
I'm like skeptical of Quorum 

621
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,440
works his way on because it's 
like, I already have a guy I 

622
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,680
trust and he's doing his job, so
he's staying out there. 

623
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,200
We'll move on to my bag 
defending player yeah I also 

624
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,040
thought about this a lot I I 
couldn't come up with like an 

625
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:13,160
awesome one this week I'll go 
with one that I feel just very 

626
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,160
medium about Audric estimate 
drafted this is almost. 

627
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,320
Going to be mine. 
Yeah, Drafted about 20% of them 

628
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,040
for some reason, because you had
to draft Denver Broncos running 

629
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,120
backs this year. 
Everyone, everyone knows that 

630
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,080
draft. 
Everyone knows that you got to 

631
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,200
draft Broncos running backs. 
They're. 

632
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,040
Just some of the conventional 
wisdom in the summer. 

633
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,760
They're a gold mine, but any? 
Only some of it. 

634
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,800
Only some of it Corrine. 
Yeah, anyways, this is just 

635
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,480
people probably don't even want 
to hear this anymore for me, but

636
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,520
like I just don't think Jonte 
Williams is ever going to come 

637
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,320
back from this knee injury. 
Now he's he's good at something.

638
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,120
He's he's a very good pass 
protecting back. 

639
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,840
I get if you have a rookie 
quarterback out there, you 

640
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,280
probably want the pass pro guy 
over the inexperienced rookie, 

641
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,640
especially early on the season. 
I just think you watched Devonta

642
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,040
Williams run. 
There's not much there. 

643
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,680
He also had a second second lost
fumble of the season this week. 

644
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,720
Audrey Guestman only played a 
handful of snaps but did get 

645
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,080
carries when he was out there. 
So I do think similar to what we

646
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,160
saw with Tyler Bidet, they 
actually flipped Bidet over 

647
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,040
Javante in that game. 
He got injured. 

648
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,200
In terms of the first running 
back to get carries, first 

649
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,240
running back to get touches, I 
think there's a chance we see. 

650
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,400
False False narrative False 
narrative. 

651
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,320
Javante played the first series,
the day played the second, 

652
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,240
Javante played the third, then 
the day came back out for the 

653
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:40,680
4th, and then he got injured. 
You're all you are directionally

654
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,400
accurate, but you are not 
telling the whole truth. 

655
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,000
All I know is that when I 
checked the box or when he got 

656
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,840
injured, he had like 3 touches 
to Javante's one. 

657
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:57,320
So anyways, bottom line is they 
were giving him more carries 

658
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,800
before he got hurt than Javante.
I don't know if you want to 

659
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,400
nitpick that statement, but I'm 
just saying it's not worth 

660
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,560
talking about this just just to 
say that I think we've seen Sean

661
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,400
McVay try to replace a little 
bit of the Javante roll before. 

662
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,800
I think Este will be given a 
chance to do that. 

663
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,720
No idea if he succeeds or not, 
but for a 20th or whatever round

664
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,120
pick he was for most of the 
summer, I think he's going to 

665
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,440
end up being OK, especially for 
this Broncos team. 

666
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,160
I've got I've got a hotter take 
on top of this estimate is just 

667
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,480
going to start a running back 
for them next week. 

668
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:36,600
Wow. 
Dude, the so if you guys do not 

669
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,680
subscribe to ceiling signals, it
is like honestly, probably like 

670
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,320
it's so valuable. 
I I really love that Ben does 

671
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,120
it. 
I learned stuff like I've 

672
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,520
watched the NFL pretty closely. 
I follow all the stuff, and I 

673
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,080
learned stuff reading from Ben 
all the time. 

674
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,080
And Ben wrote this insanely long
diatribe in defense of Devante 

675
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,480
and reading it, I actually got 
worse vibes about Devante 

676
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,840
reading it. 
Because basically it all relies 

677
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:04,520
on the fact that Peyton has 
continued to give this guy the 

678
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:10,560
ball, but the sheer amount of 
other guys on the team and the 

679
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,840
time that Peyton has been the 
coach has just been like, I 

680
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,719
think he basically has sort of 
decided Javante is the best of a

681
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,800
bad lot. 
But there's a reason why Tyler 

682
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,960
Bidet keeps getting touches. 
There's a reason why Samaj P 

683
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,560
Ryan is playing every 3rd down. 
There's a reason why Julie 

684
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,120
McLaughlin was getting high 
value touches. 

685
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,040
Like there's a reason why this 
random fifth round pick out of 

686
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,600
Notre Dame, who we all thought 
was a terrible prospect, became 

687
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:42,120
like our favorite pick because 
the guy do you know how rare 

688
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,480
this is for a day three rookie 
to have a knee scope and miss 

689
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,159
mini camp and for the coach to 
be like, it's all good? 

690
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,280
It's all. 
Good, it's all good dude. 

691
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,600
He's. 
Big fans. 

692
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:58,360
All, all good, you know. 
So I, I think, I think that, I 

693
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,720
think the, the bidet stuff to 
me, Sam was evidence that you 

694
00:35:01,720 --> 00:35:06,240
are right, that like the day 
being involved at all is 

695
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,040
evidence that there's this 
placeholder part of the offense 

696
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,120
for estimate is basically how I 
took it. 

697
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,680
And I think, I think the, the 
running game has been so bad. 

698
00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:19,880
I believe Denver running backs 
are now averaging 3.5 yards per 

699
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,240
carry as a team. 
Like I think it's, it's a, it's 

700
00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:27,320
a real thing where we just like 
estimate could get 14 rushes 

701
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,800
next week. 
I don't even know who they play.

702
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:35,280
Yeah, and yeah, I, I think like 
the scenarios where Javante 

703
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,160
holds on to a majority or 
plurality role for the rest of 

704
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,880
season are like totally 
possible, maybe even like the 

705
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,240
most likely outcome. 
But I don't know, man. 

706
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,280
Like we've seen this for 24 
games now post ACL. 

707
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,240
What does that really get you? 
I'm pretty sceptical it's much 

708
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:57,320
of value, especially, you know, 
Bo Nix was letting the NFL on 

709
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,160
fire and playing well. 
Maybe you did get something out 

710
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,240
of this Javante stuff, but with 
the way he's playing. 

711
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,440
I think that's, that's the key 
point, I think is that so I'm 

712
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,400
looking at the rush roads over 
expected because we talked about

713
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,200
this a few weeks ago with his 
rush roads over expected and he 

714
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,800
was just in the tank. 
And I noted that he's facing a 

715
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,840
really high rate of eight man 
boxes. 

716
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,360
And I was like actually less 
concerned about his numbers 

717
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,320
compared to someone like DeAndre
Swift or whatever, just because 

718
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,720
like, you know, there's been no 
explosiveness. 

719
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,640
Swift has actually looked pretty
decent, although he's still 

720
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,480
second worst in these numbers, 
but obviously coming off a good 

721
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,680
game. 
But his, his numbers have 

722
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,680
improved Jovante's a little bit,
but he's still, he's at -25 so 

723
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,000
he's, he's not like in the worst
of the worst, like Zeke's down 

724
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:51,520
at -54 a chance at -78. 
Jovante has a 40% success rate, 

725
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:56,160
which is like totally solid. 
He's, you know, he's near like 

726
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,920
guys like Kyron Williams. 
Rico Dowdell is not too far 

727
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,520
above. 
Alvin Kamara is not too far 

728
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,840
above. 
Alexander Madison's not too far 

729
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,280
above right, like Javonte. 
Williams is a real Javonte 

730
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,680
Williams is a real Alexander 
Madison ass running back right 

731
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:12,760
now. 
Yeah, you're not. 

732
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,760
You're not looking at him being 
like, this guy's actively bad. 

733
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,200
This is. 
It's not this guy's so bad that 

734
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,040
the team can't prosper with him 
in it. 

735
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,600
It's just that he's not really. 
He's just not really adding 

736
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,800
anything. 
You know, he he he is fine. 

737
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:32,920
But I think to Sam's point and 
to our our larger point of 

738
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,440
being, I was a big estimate 
drafter and honestly, big Jaleel

739
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,920
drafter, really just a big 
Denver running back. 

740
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,840
Like I, I should check, I should
check right now. 

741
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,240
I'm sure I have an absolute ass 
ton of these guys. 

742
00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:47,400
Yeah, I've got 14% estimate, 12%
McLaughlin, 10% Javante. 

743
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,400
So I clearly, I clearly bought 
into this Denver running back 

744
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,680
narrative. 
And the, you know, the crazy 

745
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:58,640
thing is that it was all 
supposed to rely on Nick's being

746
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,520
sharp enough to complete a bunch
of passes to running backs and 

747
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,240
keep these drives alive. 
The only thing Nick's has been 

748
00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:07,720
good for is actually you should 
have just taken Nick's 

749
00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:10,160
completely naked unstacked 
because he's an incredible 

750
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,720
scrambler. 
He he like some of these, some 

751
00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:17,360
of these scram like he had this 
third and 13 conversion 

752
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,520
yesterday where like the 
defender like had his legs and 

753
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,080
he just was like, Nope, I'm 
keeping, I'm, I'm going to keep,

754
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,880
I'm going to keep going. 
But he's been so bad. 

755
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,640
He can't even complete screen 
passes. 

756
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,840
He, he can't even complete 
these, these Drew Brees passes 

757
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,360
to the running backs. 
And that is so, so now that 

758
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,040
leads me to being, I mean, 
estimate is, I mean, what is he 

759
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,240
weigh 235 lbs? 
Like you basically just line up 

760
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,400
with Lucas Kroll and Adam 
Troutman and you just say we're 

761
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,200
running, we're running 4.2 yards
per carry, let's get something 

762
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,440
going on the ground cuz Nicks 
could maybe succeed. 

763
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,280
Nicks could maybe succeed. 
If you got up against lighter 

764
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,760
boxes or whatever, it's probably
not going. 

765
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,240
To happen yeah yeah and I I 
think the the point that that 

766
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:09,360
Sam made about Nicks just not 
lighting the world on fire is 

767
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,000
the is the point. 
The reason I was bringing up the

768
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,600
rushroads over expect is cuz 
like you could it like there's a

769
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,920
couple ways where Devante would 
be fine with what he's doing 

770
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,680
right now. 
One of those would be if he was 

771
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,240
like a really good receiving 
back like Camara or if like 

772
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:29,720
there was absolutely no possible
competition like with Dowdell or

773
00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:32,200
if the offense was actually 
fairly functional and he was 

774
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,120
really good around the goal line
like with Karen Williams like, 

775
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,760
but he's not any of it. 
Like none of those things are 

776
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,960
true. 
And it's also like not an 

777
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,640
offense that's just really, 
really strong and just like 

778
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,400
needs a reliable guy because 
Devante is he actually has been 

779
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,600
40% success rate. 
Like you can kind of count on 

780
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,520
him to go out there and do his 
job, but it's just not enough. 

781
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,280
Like you need, they need 
something. 

782
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,520
It's not enough. 
It's not enough if Peyton 

783
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,880
doesn't want it to be enough. 
You know what I mean? 

784
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,360
Like it's, it's not like you got
to be benched, but it's also 

785
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,880
like if Sean Payton is just 
looking for something else. 

786
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,800
Because the the previous regime 
drafted Javonte, right? 

787
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,080
Yeah, memory serves. 
So he drafted estimate. 

788
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,120
I mean, that's that's classic 
Sean Payton stuff of being. 

789
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,400
Like, yeah. 
Yeah. 

790
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,440
All I'll say to and the 
conversation is like if you're 

791
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,600
looking for an excuse to bench 
someone, like 2 fumbles is an 

792
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,000
excuse Now plenty of good 
running backs at fumbles. 

793
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,520
Like, I'm not saying that's the 
thing you should be judging 

794
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,440
people on, but it gives coaches 
an excuse to make a change if 

795
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,720
that's what Sean Payton wants to
do. 

796
00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:35,800
So we'll see here over the next 
couple weeks. 

797
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,440
I don't think I've given it to 
you, Pat for your bag defending 

798
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,520
player, is that right? 
Yeah, what are? 

799
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,800
You thinking this week for for 
your bag defend. 

800
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,920
I'll say Hunter Henry to. 
No, this doesn't. 

801
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,840
This doesn't count, dude. 
He just is a winner. 

802
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,200
That that's a big. 
Is he all right? 

803
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:59,880
Yeah. 
All right, well, I don't have 

804
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,840
another one. 
You can. 

805
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,800
For the. 
No, I'm not bag defending him. 

806
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,560
He he's I was going to I was 
going to say he was done. 

807
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,680
That's I'm over. 
What's the what's the last one? 

808
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,840
Panic, but I was going to I. 
Was maybe going to bag, I was 

809
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,080
maybe going to bag. 
Defend Polk. 

810
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,480
All right, well, talk me into 
bag depending bag defending 

811
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,840
General Polk, because I'm I'm 
watching him play out there and 

812
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,080
he's he looks terrible. 
He drops every pass he can't get

813
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,280
open. 
I'm pretty sure that Demario 

814
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,680
Douglas is is going to be the 
dude in New England and that 

815
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,400
Hunter Henry will. 
Also enjoy. 

816
00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:37,040
Shocking that the guy who 
actually was able to generate 

817
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,720
positive momentum on last year's
Patriots team was actually able 

818
00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:42,960
to play a little bit this year. 
Yeah, I'll give you the bag 

819
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:48,320
defend on Polk Kayshawn boot. 
I actually don't know if it's 

820
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,880
boot or booty, but isn't. 
It booty. 

821
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,160
He is like a lifelong 
knucklehead, like Light, like 

822
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,920
every program and team he's ever
been. 

823
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,440
And it's been like please stop, 
please get away from us. 

824
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:05,920
He is like 1 incident away from 
getting sent to the practice 

825
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,360
squad. 
I don't know, man, like he so he

826
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,320
catches that pass and then he 
got up there like with all the 

827
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,320
confidence of like he he got up 
there with like, you know, 10 

828
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,520
all pro selection confidence and
was like you need to throw deep.

829
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,600
He was a five star high school 
recruiter. 

830
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,760
He was ALS like he like, he 
could have been like neighbors. 

831
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,040
I would be terrified if I was 
ahead of that guy on the depth 

832
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,760
chart and not performing. 
I would. 

833
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,880
I wouldn't. 
No, the the bag defend with Polk

834
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,320
is they only played four wide 
receivers in the game. 

835
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:38,600
So that's pretty big. 
OK. 

836
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,040
Austin Hooper is not going to 
earn any targets. 

837
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,880
Like Austin Hooper can be on the
field, but he's not going to 

838
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:48,800
earn any targets. 
And may well like, like if Javon

839
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,080
Baker is active next week, then 
we've got issues. 

840
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:54,840
But I don't, I don't think, I 
don't think he will be. 

841
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,920
So I think Polk will have Polk 
will have more opportunities to 

842
00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:01,760
to not be terrible is is the 
bag. 

843
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:08,800
Defend OK, all right, we'll move
on here to panic button. 

844
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,000
I'm not sure where we landed 
there on on Pat's bag. 

845
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,520
Defend. 
But can I start? 

846
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,560
Yeah, yeah, I'll give it to you.
I don't even have one, to be 

847
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:17,400
honest. 
So go ahead. 

848
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,480
I'm. 
Going to panic button Jalyn 

849
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:27,000
Polk. 
It's guy. 

850
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,520
This guy is 0.50 yards per route
run. 

851
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:36,240
He last week with May at 0.14 is
worst of the season. 

852
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,040
He is not He's been really bad 
an open score. 

853
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,480
He drops everything. 
I know he's out there running 

854
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:49,760
routes, but like this dude is 
just begging Javon Baker to come

855
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,520
out there and and take some 
routes away. 

856
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:58,600
So yeah, maybe maybe Davis is 
right in the, you know, an 

857
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,640
easier match up and improve 
quarterback situation could 

858
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,080
potentially get something out of
poke. 

859
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,960
But I have a lot of poke in 
baseball and I think even Drake 

860
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,240
may playing well is not going to
save it. 

861
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,320
Yeah, man, I don't. 
I don't know what to think. 

862
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,600
I think as a Patriots fan, my 
takes on Patriots players are 

863
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:20,520
always clouded by equal parts 
like cope of wanting them to be 

864
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,040
good, but also equal parts like 
every Belichick wide receiver 

865
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:28,280
that's been drafted since like 
1999 has been a colossal bust. 

866
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,080
So I can't get over that part as
well. 

867
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:35,240
But I don't know man. 
Like Polk over AD Mitchell just 

868
00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:37,440
from a fan perspective. 
Not this isn't a fantasy take. 

869
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,360
That was bad. 
At the time, that was. 

870
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,840
Exactly, yeah. 
I'm not saying from a fantasy 

871
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,320
perspective AD Mitchell is like 
killing it, but just from a fan 

872
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,040
perspective, like he looks at 
least at his high points, has 

873
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,200
something special out there on 
the field that I'm struggling to

874
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,400
see with Polk. 
Like his his two highlights from

875
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,200
the season were incompletion 
almost catches. 

876
00:44:57,240 --> 00:45:00,560
Like that's the stage of Pope of
Cope. 

877
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,600
We're at Frigil and Polk. 
So yeah, man, I, I don't know, 

878
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,680
I, I kind of am in the middle 
between you and Davis here. 

879
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:08,640
I don't really know what to 
think. 

880
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,280
Also my third highest drafted 
player so. 

881
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,240
Stuff it's like he he like 
literally cannot focus enough to

882
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:18,200
be on the football field, but 
he's so good that they're still 

883
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,440
just like, all right, 10 snaps a
game, you're going to go run 

884
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,240
around because you're that he 
got he had four targets on 11 

885
00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:26,600
snaps this week. 
And I think it was, I think it 

886
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:31,800
was 7 targets on like 13 snaps 
last week. 

887
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,800
And then like after the game, 
Reggie Wayne that Reggie Wayne 

888
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,920
says 80. 
Mitchell is the best separator 

889
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,720
in the NFL. 
Oh God, you know what? 

890
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,480
You know what's going to happen 
next year? 

891
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,880
Prediction and 9. 
Mitchell is going to be the 

892
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:53,440
Dontavian Wicks of 2024. 
Yeah, projected as the 4th wide 

893
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,880
receiver to start the year. 
You can't see the clear path, 

894
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,360
the routes. 
All the film Bros say he looked 

895
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,440
awesome. 
His yards per route run maybe is

896
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,920
awesome by the end of the year, 
except the problem. 

897
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:03,960
Is. 
I think it will be pretty good, 

898
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,840
yeah. 
The past volume's gonna be like 

899
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,760
18 attempts per game with 
Anthony Richardson. 

900
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,520
That's that's the minor. 
In this plan the issue is the 

901
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,840
issue will be the same as Wix, 
which is that when he gets full 

902
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,120
time role he just doesn't know 
what to do. 

903
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,120
Like he just doesn't know how to
play football. 

904
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,080
Doesn't know how to catch. 
Yeah, I'm looking forward to him

905
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,000
being the walkthrough cover boy 
in Week 5 next year. 

906
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,240
We'll, we'll win exactly as much
money as we did when Wix was. 

907
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,440
Yeah, I will honestly like never
recover my credibility in my 

908
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,040
home league group chat amongst 
my friends from high school with

909
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,960
the bid I put on Dontavian 
Wicks. 

910
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,480
My reputation as a fantasy 
analyst is honestly like 

911
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,560
irrecoverable from their 
perspective. 

912
00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:43,120
They all think I'm the biggest 
idiot ever. 

913
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,120
They all think Dontavian Wicks 
sucks and I don't know. 

914
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,920
He hasn't proven them wrong yet 
this year. 

915
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,800
So that's that is a problem. 
For me not to completely derail 

916
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,640
us here, but Sam, you are in the
dark. 

917
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,560
You were wearing a beanie and 
we're seeing people wheel stuff 

918
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,720
out of this house behind you are
are you? 

919
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,640
Is this the middle of a robbery?
No, it's the bank. 

920
00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:06,320
It's the bank examiner. 
It's the bank, yeah. 

921
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,520
Dan K. 
Dan K, Yes. 

922
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,400
If you're getting robbed, then I
think he has a point. 

923
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,760
No, no, the bank examiner 
watched Jalen Polk and Roma 

924
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,200
dudes last week and he said 
enough is enough. 

925
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,240
Sam, we're we're coming here. 
You're you're 30% Nico Collins 

926
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:25,280
can't can't save you now, which 
as a transition, that was going 

927
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,680
to be my panic meter. 
This is just I had nothing to 

928
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,920
say. 
So I'm just going to panic on 

929
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,640
30% Nikka Collins and say I was 
I was too right this year. 

930
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:35,880
I was. 
I knew too much. 

931
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,400
Ball right? 
If you drafted at 11 or 12, what

932
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,600
was even the right pick at the 
turn right now with like with 

933
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,920
the result, No. 
Saquon. 

934
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,440
Saquon sucks dude. 
Chase Brown has more touchdowns 

935
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,320
than him. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

936
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,320
I mean, come on, results wise it
was obviously Saquon or? 

937
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,080
No, it's Derrick Henry. 
I mean, the correct answer is is

938
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,480
probably Nico. 
You know the hamstring thing is 

939
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,520
not you got to, you got to 
assume that doesn't happen in 

940
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,640
the we re we reroll. 
Yeah, it's just, it's. 

941
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:09,480
Just, oh. 
London. 

942
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:10,720
London. 
London. 

943
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:16,240
London or Debo? 
London, Yeah. 

944
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:17,480
London. 
London, Debo. 

945
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,040
I mean, projecting forward, you 
guys, if you guys were given a 

946
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,280
Mulligan today, not saying it 
was bad process to fade Saquon. 

947
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,720
If you're just given a Mulligan 
today, you have a time machine 

948
00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:29,800
where you can see six weeks in 
the future, you're not taking 

949
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,640
Saquon at the 1-2 turn. 
I mean, come on. 

950
00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:32,800
No, sure. 
I don't know. 

951
00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:38,600
Offense terrible man. 
The offense looks so bad the the

952
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,320
offense is like the. 
Mixer yelling at the fans have 

953
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,200
to they barely beat the. 
Yeah, it's like it's like bad 

954
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,280
play, bad play, bad play one 
A.J. 

955
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,480
Brown miracle bad play, bad 
play, bad play Devonta Smith the

956
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,640
miracle bad play, bad play, bad 
play tush push. 

957
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,240
Bad play, bad play, bad play 
tush push. 

958
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:02,120
Can we, I would like to give 
ourselves a little bit of a 

959
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,000
little bit of crap just as a 
just as a whole community, 

960
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,440
everybody, I think I don't know 
anyone's exempt from this. 

961
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,120
When Dan Campbell, Dan Campbell 
was first hired and Nick 

962
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,440
Sirianni was first hired, we 
were like, both of these guys 

963
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:19,640
are equally clowns. 
They're both biting kneecaps and

964
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,880
Nick Sirianni's weird, super 
weird press conference. 

965
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:27,080
Both these guys and then one of 
them's like the greatest coach. 

966
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,960
I would I would run through a 
wall. 

967
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,560
Do you? 
Did you read what he said about 

968
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,640
David Montgomery? 
He's like, I wish I could have 

969
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,080
played with him. 
Like what a compliment from Dan 

970
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,200
Campbell. 
Like, unbelievable stuff, 

971
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:41,720
really. 
It's so good. 

972
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,880
Yeah, Dan, Dan Campbell, awesome
guy. 

973
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,560
Although Craig, you, you do know
how this thing goes that if 

974
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,480
they're if the the Lions for 
whatever reason, go on a six 

975
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,960
game losing streak, 5 game just 
for whatever, if just imagine, 

976
00:49:55,720 --> 00:49:59,600
then the Dan Campbell thing goes
from being charming and and like

977
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,360
real football guy to this 
fucking guy sucks. 

978
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,640
This guy's is just doing he's 
just doing a bit. 

979
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,120
He's he's, he's, he's. 
No, I don't know. 

980
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,960
I don't think so because we came
up with Dan Campbell with them 

981
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,600
not being very good. 
Like, I first flipped and was 

982
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,200
like, I think this guy's awesome
when they were back. 

983
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,440
You know, I think he's like just
a legitimately really good 

984
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,040
coach. 
Like he, he cares about his 

985
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:25,360
players. 
He wants to win a lot. 

986
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:26,440
Yeah. 
Oh yeah. 

987
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,800
He accepts buy in from other 
people because he he 

988
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,440
incorporates other people's 
opinions and stuff. 

989
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:31,960
He's like. 
Agree more. 

990
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,240
He's like a football. 
He's like the most football guy 

991
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,240
in some ways, but also like kind
of anti football guy in other 

992
00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:41,000
ways, you know? 
He looks like, he looks like 

993
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,400
Carhartt. 
Andrew Huberman. 

994
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,040
They look, they look so similar,
it's crazy. 

995
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,720
Anyway, Siriani turned out to be
a clown after all. 

996
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,520
Yeah, Siriani is a clown. 
Here's a here's a genuine panic 

997
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,400
button for me to to get this 
debate going. 

998
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,880
What do you guys think about 
Jameer Gibbs panic button? 

999
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,960
The 1-2 turn? 
Not that he's been a bad pick, 

1000
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,760
but we're not. 
We now have 5 weeks this season.

1001
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,600
David Montgomery. 
Panic button about a guy who's 

1002
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,080
alive, I think, I think at this 
stage. 

1003
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,080
I I was just going to make the 
point five weeks of the season, 

1004
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,800
David Montgomery 18 PPR points 
from rate game. 

1005
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,760
He got a new contract extension.
Jamir Gibbs 15 PPR points per 

1006
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,000
game. 
You look at their roles, their 

1007
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,360
routes, their goal line stuff 
like I'm not seeing anything 

1008
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,560
that's saying like Jamir Gibbs, 
his role is way better than 

1009
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,640
David Montgomery's. 
Like did did we miss this? 

1010
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,800
And just not having them closer 
together, I guess is my 

1011
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,680
question. 
Because to me, like I think they

1012
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,880
should go close to back-to-back.
I think gun to my head, I still 

1013
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,480
take Gibbs, but they should be 
pretty close in rest of season 

1014
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,520
rankings. 
I'll start with your thoughts on

1015
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,000
on that. 
And we definitely didn't miss 

1016
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,880
it, you know, because you have 
to in fantasy football, right? 

1017
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,840
You're trying to project what 
will happen in and you're trying

1018
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,680
to capture the upside scenarios,
right? 

1019
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,480
So you got to you got to take 
some leaps of faith and first 

1020
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,800
round pick really good receiver 
in college. 

1021
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,760
Not such a good receiver as a 
rookie, but competent explosive 

1022
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,880
as a rusher. 
Colton College and right away as

1023
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:16,080
a rookie. 
And the back behind him is good,

1024
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,440
not great or back. 
You know he's competing with 

1025
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:19,680
that. 
You're hoping he puts behind him

1026
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,440
is good, not great. 
And they already forced to split

1027
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,680
as a rookie and already was kind
of a league winner in the fourth

1028
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,840
round as a rookie. 
You got it. 

1029
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,600
You got to take the leap of 
faith with that guy. 

1030
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,200
Now it hasn't happened yet, but 
you know, game logs PPR game 

1031
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:40,320
logs 17.417 point 616 point 
319.8 12.1 last week. 

1032
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,160
It's not what we were hoping 
he's not this is he's not 

1033
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,800
turning in like the legendary 
campaign where he's taking the 

1034
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,080
backfield over, but it's a it's 
a good team. 

1035
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,840
They put up points, they play 
aggressively even. 

1036
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,400
If they're ahead though, by the 
way? 

1037
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,960
Thinking he still could. 
Speaking of like, you know how 

1038
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,200
we treat like the thing that has
already happened is the thing 

1039
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,080
that will happen again. 
Like the the thing with Gibbs 

1040
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,200
was that he's like a chain level
efficiency on an even better 

1041
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,440
team with an even better line 
and even better like play caller

1042
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:09,480
and everything around around 
him. 

1043
00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:14,640
So like if he just go, if he 
just rips off a month where he 

1044
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:19,040
just super smashes on efficiency
scores, scores 6 touchdowns from

1045
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,320
outside the 20, then we're 
going, Oh my God, you idiots. 

1046
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,400
Like I was this was always going
to happen. 

1047
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,040
It's like Montgomery and Gibbs 
are exactly who we thought they 

1048
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,680
were. 
Gibbs just has not ran hot on 

1049
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,440
efficiency yet, and Montgomery 
has ran hot on. 

1050
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,120
And you're hoping that 
Montgomery falls off, you're 

1051
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,920
hoping that Gibbs takes like a 
clear step forward and is like, 

1052
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,600
I think he's the best running 
back in the NFL. 

1053
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,440
Like you're, you have to, I 
think, like take on something 

1054
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,480
like those aren't the most 
likely outcomes, but when they 

1055
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,320
happen, the upside is just so 
massive and like, you know, 

1056
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:58,080
earth tilting that you got to, 
you got to like draft for it a 

1057
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,560
little bit. 
And I think in some ways the 

1058
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,480
reason to take Gibbs is, is that
like this is not been the 

1059
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,720
outcome we wanted. 
And yet if you were to show up 

1060
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,040
in a single week tournament next
week with Gibbs, you'd feel 

1061
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,240
fine. 
You know, it's not ideal, but 

1062
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:18,360
but you'd feel fine. 
So I, I think, I guess like he's

1063
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,560
in the middle to me, he's not a,
he's not a win, but I don't 

1064
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,640
think he's a loss. 
No, yeah, I agree with that. 

1065
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,200
I think I'm more so just saying 
that I think maybe we missed 

1066
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,840
with how low David Long 
Montgomery was going and he 

1067
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,480
wasn't someone. 
I'm not saying like I predicted 

1068
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,560
this. 
I think I came out close to even

1069
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,160
on Dave Montgomery, maybe even 
slightly underweight. 

1070
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:40,680
And that feels like to with 
where he was going in like 60s, 

1071
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,320
seventies, 80s, even at some 
points. 

1072
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,320
I forget exactly that feels like
maybe I should have had more 

1073
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,240
Dave Montgomery. 
But like we talked about you can

1074
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:50,720
you can say that for a lot of 
running backs. 

1075
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:51,080
Yeah. 
I. 

1076
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,920
Mean Zach religious is all over 
that he he really wanted us to 

1077
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:58,280
to have more Montgomery move him
up the ranks and stuff. 

1078
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,600
I, I struggle with players like 
Montgomery because you know, he 

1079
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,200
is, he is kind of in the Zach 
Moss Moss. 

1080
00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:07,400
Thing Really good bet to get 16 
a lot of weeks, yeah. 

1081
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,920
Pretty pretty bad bet to get 25 
ever. 

1082
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,760
Right, so, but you know. 
This is, I guess my push back on

1083
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,760
that is like, is that true 
though if Gibbs goes out like 

1084
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:22,480
we've seen workhorse Montgomery 
even in Chicago have, like not a

1085
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,640
legendary season, but a 
legendary stretch. 

1086
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,840
Also, by the way, can you guys 
hear that background noise? 

1087
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:28,360
Yes. 
OK. 

1088
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,920
So you're right though, I mean 
the, the UPS, the, the 

1089
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,400
contingent upside of Montgomery 
is actually pretty massive. 

1090
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,240
So we probably should have had 
more. 

1091
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:37,800
I think the Gibbs ADP was 
correct. 

1092
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,160
I think the Montgomery ADP is 
looking looking like I could do 

1093
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,840
that. 
Value isn't the only thing, it's

1094
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,480
everything I. 
Guess it is this year. 

1095
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,800
Yeah, I think Bixby's going to 
be illegal there, so I think. 

1096
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,840
He played 70% of the snaps by 
Dearness Johnson yesterday. 

1097
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,840
I think the Tank Bixby people 
might have gotten over their 

1098
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,400
skis brother. 
Well, then, dearness, Johnson is

1099
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,560
going to be a legal winner. 
Those snap rates are gonna are 

1100
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,240
gonna change once Doug Peterson 
is fired and left in London. 

1101
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:06,760
Bixby is getting. 
You know what? 

1102
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,120
OK, this is right now, one of 
the funniest things in the 

1103
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,840
history of football is 
happening, which is that the 

1104
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,880
Jaguars are stuck in London 
because they have to play the 

1105
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,680
Patriots next week. 
If they were coming back and on 

1106
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,040
their by right now, Doug 
Peterson would already be fired.

1107
00:56:21,240 --> 00:56:24,560
But basically, I think the team 
is just decided in a very like 

1108
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,040
Seinfeldian Curb Your Enthusiasm
way. 

1109
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,480
It's too much of A hassle to 
fire Doug Peterson and like 

1110
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,480
figure out all the ramifications
of like travel and organizing 

1111
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,560
practices and everything in 
another country. 

1112
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,120
So they're like, whatever, Doug,
we'll, we'll handle this when we

1113
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,560
get back. 
Like, literally it it, it, it's 

1114
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:46,000
really unlike, imagine the 
conversations that are happening

1115
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,320
between Shad Khan and and Doug 
Peterson right now. 

1116
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,240
It would be so funny if they 
just didn't fly him back from 

1117
00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:54,560
London after he said they needed
a culture change. 

1118
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,040
Like, well, here's your culture 
change, buddy. 

1119
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:57,960
You were. 
You were right. 

1120
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,640
Yeah. 
So funny. 

1121
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,080
Yeah, saying it's been some good
stuff. 

1122
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,680
Some of us talk about the team 
just now has like hang out and 

1123
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,040
meet like fish and chips with 
the most fired guy ever. 

1124
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,600
When, when players after the 
game are being like, yeah, we 

1125
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,040
just quit. 
Not a good sign. 

1126
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:22,880
Not a good sign for Calvin 
Ridley, by the way. 

1127
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,360
We'll get to my panic button 
here in a second. 

1128
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,880
Calvin Ridley, by the way, a 
player I could not have been 

1129
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,600
less interested in for fantasy. 
Absolutely hilarious to see him 

1130
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,640
being surprised that Will Levis 
is terrible. 

1131
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,040
Like, buddy, you signed the 
contract. 

1132
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:40,440
You like get your money. 
But he's he's like telling, he's

1133
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,480
like telling the the team. 
He's like, we got to give me 

1134
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,160
some more targets, bro. 
Like what are we doing? 

1135
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,800
And I'm like Calvin Ridley. 
Who did you think you were 

1136
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,880
playing with, man? 
You, you you thought you thought

1137
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,680
you were getting to play with 
Jake Browning, brother. 

1138
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,560
Nope. 
He also said they were like, you

1139
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,360
got targets. 
The reporter was like, you did 

1140
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,360
get targets in this game. 
He's like, yeah, when did they 

1141
00:57:58,360 --> 00:57:59,560
come? 
And they're like the fourth 

1142
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:00,960
quarter. 
He's like, exactly like, you got

1143
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,800
to give me targets early. 
But I'm like, I think, I think 

1144
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,960
Ridley's admitting just like 
giving up somewhere in the third

1145
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:12,720
quarter, just being like, no. 
Calvin Ridley's yards per route 

1146
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:18,720
run in his career is like Van 
Jefferson asked what 1.77? 

1147
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:23,320
Has anyone, like has anyone's 
2019 season carried more weight 

1148
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,120
than Calvin Ridley's? 
I mean, this was it 2018? 

1149
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,840
Was it even 2019? 
It's, I don't, I don't know, I 

1150
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:31,400
it's. 
In the archives. 

1151
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,920
Yeah, I've never been a Calvin 
Ridley guy in my life. 

1152
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,800
No, that's not true. 
No, I was a Calvin Ridley guy 

1153
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,040
last year cuz. 
Of that. 

1154
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,520
Fucking training guy I. 
Was a Calvin Ridley guy by that 

1155
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,280
By that training clamp. 
Yeah, I. 

1156
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,160
Was right there with I didn't I 
was out. 

1157
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,320
It felt really for three weeks, 
but I was fully yeah. 

1158
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,160
When you go to PFF and you try 
to look at Kevin Ridley breakout

1159
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,040
season, you have to download 
this extra you. 

1160
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,520
Have to get it in a CSV. 
They're not putting it on the 

1161
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,320
cloud anymore. 
It's one of those situations 

1162
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,840
where like, I feel like both the
Jaguars and Calvin Ridley look 

1163
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,920
like idiots. 
Like trying to replace Calvin 

1164
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,840
Ridley with Gabe Davis. 
That's been a disaster, but also

1165
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:14,920
Calvin Ridley. 
Disaster. 

1166
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:16,960
Gabe Davis, they replace with 
Brian Thomas. 

1167
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,760
I would say yeah. 
OK, well, Gabe Davis being on 

1168
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,880
the like, I don't care about 
that two touchdown SAT line. 

1169
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,000
Gabe Davis is looking like one 
of the worst wide receivers in 

1170
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,920
the NFL on the field. 
He he's been atrocious for the 

1171
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,880
Jags. 
He dropped two touchdowns last 

1172
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:33,240
week. 
I'm not saying that him and 

1173
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,720
Calvin really do the same 
things, but that that contract 

1174
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,600
prevented them from, I don't 
know, you don't even have to say

1175
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:39,760
prevented them from signing 
Calvin. 

1176
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,960
They prevented them from making 
another big move at wide 

1177
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,200
receiver. 
I don't think the answer was. 

1178
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:45,920
They drafted Thomas, so they 
didn't. 

1179
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,320
I mean, they did make a big move
at wide receiver. 

1180
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,120
They got their number one guy in
the first round. 

1181
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,280
You know how black is slimming, 
by the way? 

1182
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:56,960
You know what? 
You know what's not slimming? 

1183
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:03,200
The number is 0 #0 number. 0 #0 
is so cold it shouldn't it 

1184
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,680
shouldn't be allowed on Gabe 
Davis. 

1185
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,920
It's. 
Not a good look for Dave. 

1186
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:13,040
Davis it looks terrible. 
All right, we'll move on to 

1187
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,920
final, final segment. 
Davis, you're. 

1188
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,880
I I've got a guy right now I 
would sell my shares up for for 

1189
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:23,440
$0.05. 
Jermaine Burton. 

1190
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,160
Why? 
I am, I mean. 

1191
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:31,040
Your bid has been rejected. 
Like if you if you put up all 

1192
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,520
the teams I've drafted Jermaine 
Burton on, it's like more than I

1193
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,480
pay it for the mortgage for my 
house for a year. 

1194
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:41,120
And he was this went a little 
bit unnoticed last night. 

1195
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:46,920
I think just a straight up 
healthy scratch for a team that 

1196
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:52,160
is playing Trenton Irwin, 
Charlie Jones and Andre Yoshi 

1197
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,760
Vas and I I believe why the 
reason I'll have to look this 

1198
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,120
up. 
I think why they made him a 

1199
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,280
healthy scratch was so they 
could get a fourth tight end 

1200
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:05,160
active, which is bad. 
So I guess something. 

1201
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,680
So I guess something that I've 
learned is if all the scouts 

1202
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,680
tell you I'll do this guy would 
have been a first round pick 

1203
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:17,440
would have been a duty so good. 
Well, there's a real reason why 

1204
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,720
that guy didn't go in the first 
round, especially a guy who 

1205
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,200
Georgia and Alabama had this guy
on their teams and he played for

1206
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:28,960
both of them. 
You know, like, and I guess he's

1207
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,080
just got to be the biggest Dick 
in the world. 

1208
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,840
I mean, I, I guess that is just 
really the deal is Oh, and the, 

1209
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,960
the, the announcers in the 
preseason game said he needs to 

1210
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,040
stop sleeping through meetings. 
Like imagine going into the 

1211
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:45,920
league with the Rep of a Dick 
head and then you sleep through 

1212
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,760
meetings. 
Yeah, it's it's brutal with 

1213
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:54,000
Jermaine Burton. 
But Davis, I mean, this is so to

1214
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,800
me. 
I mean, you just have to know if

1215
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,120
you're taking this dude, you 
have to understand the range of 

1216
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:03,480
outcomes is wide because this is
how we got Josh Gordon. 

1217
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:08,280
You know that we do get guys who
fall way, you know, he was in 

1218
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,680
the supplemental draft. 
But you you you get guys who 

1219
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:14,720
like really hurt their draft 
stock with off the field or 

1220
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,040
personality stuff. 
And then they they're either 

1221
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,480
basically not cut out for the 
NFL, I'm not saying, or they 

1222
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,040
could be I'm. 
Not saying I'll never take a 

1223
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:29,640
Dick head again, but this 
particular Dick head the the 

1224
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,160
the. 
Bag, I agree. 

1225
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,280
No, I agree with that. 
Yeah, this Dick head has is is 

1226
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:39,240
going to be on a new team soon. 
I mean, I mean, T Higgins was 

1227
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:43,120
out like the, the, the thesis of
like, oh, he's a contingent play

1228
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,920
on Teigen's. 
Teigen's was out and they said 

1229
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:50,320
Yoshi boss learned 4 touchdowns 
in, in, in a month, you know, 

1230
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,840
and by the way, I, I was right. 
So they they they elevated 

1231
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:58,400
Tanner Hudson as their 4th tight
end instead of having Jermaine 

1232
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,040
Burton active. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1233
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,640
I was about to talk and then I 
didn't know. 

1234
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:09,120
Yeah, now they're everything. 
I hung up my walls or they're 

1235
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,320
removing it and yeah, taking it 
on a truck. 

1236
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:16,040
So all the family heirlooms are 
gone now. 

1237
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:19,720
I don't even know what I was 
going to say anymore. 

1238
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:22,600
Roman. 
Roman Wilson. 

1239
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,080
Another one, by the way. 
Roman Wilson, Another one where 

1240
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,200
it's just like that bag couldn't
be deader like he. 

1241
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:32,240
Was at least he was activated in
week 6 for like 2 snaps. 

1242
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,320
So there you go, Roman Wilson. 
Yeah, it's more. 

1243
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,000
Likely to be more likely to be 
playing by Week 17, Roman Wilson

1244
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:42,240
or Justin Fields. 
That's hard. 

1245
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:46,000
It's tough. 
That's how you define playing. 1

1246
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:50,680
snap might be Roman Wilson, 
majority of snaps Justin Fields.

1247
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,280
Yeah, now that's the problem, 
though I don't know in terms of 

1248
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,680
takeaways from this. 
Davis Seiger with you, with what

1249
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:02,280
we know now, Jermaine Burton 
huge panic button for me. 

1250
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:07,280
I don't think he's draftable in 
a 20 round format, but we do 

1251
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:11,160
like to take stabs on these 
third, fourth round rookies in 

1252
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,200
somewhat ambiguous good 
situations. 

1253
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,040
I don't think the process was 
wrong on Burton. 

1254
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,880
Maybe the answer is like once we
got the reports that he's like 

1255
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,480
way behind Yoshi Boss, like 
behind Trenton. 

1256
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,440
Erwin training camp saved myself
from that because at one point 

1257
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,680
he was my most drafted player. 
Yeah. 

1258
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:31,320
So I think that was smart. 
Sent him to 0 but like, so like 

1259
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,560
I'll I'll phrase it this way to 
to give some good fantasy 

1260
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:38,600
analysts cope. 
I'd rather have like 18% of 

1261
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:42,960
Jermaine Burton zeros, which I 
do, then 18% of DeMarcus 

1262
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,720
Robinson's four point fours. 
I'll continue to play the game 

1263
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:50,320
that way. 
I agree, yeah. 

1264
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,720
That makes sense. 
And then another guy, I guess 

1265
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,920
just to give like the opposite 
or the somewhat positive side of

1266
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,960
this, like if you have 18% Roy 
Franklin right now, maybe a guy 

1267
01:04:59,960 --> 01:05:03,160
in somewhat comparable to Burton
in terms of being buried on his 

1268
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,920
team's Jeff chart. 
He's now the second wide 

1269
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,160
receiver for the Broncos. 
Will will that get you anything?

1270
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:12,080
I'm pretty skeptical. 
But like, that's how it can play

1271
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,960
out with these day 2 early day 
three rookies is that you can 

1272
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:20,200
walk into a decent role and then
the upside has a chance to show.

1273
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,280
So don't think the process on 
Burton, especially early on, was

1274
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,920
like dead in the water. 
No, I agree. 

1275
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:30,200
I mean Burton. 
Burton to me like had pretty now

1276
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,600
it was the landing spot was 
always a little tough because 

1277
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,160
they needed a slot and he wasn't
a slot. 

1278
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:35,920
So it was like, how exactly is 
this going to work? 

1279
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,560
But as we know, the NF LS 
chaotic Juan Jennings has the 

1280
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,160
best game of the season or they 
did at one point. 

1281
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,000
So, you know, weird stuff 
happens. 

1282
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,240
He was a talented player. 
He's with Joe Burrow. 

1283
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,080
You know, that that alone should
be interesting in early drafts. 

1284
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:56,040
But yeah, it's just it's it's 
definitely over for Burton at 

1285
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,160
the same time. 
I mean, Franklin are where are 

1286
01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:59,840
you at on Franklin now? 
Davis, are you excited? 

1287
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:07,160
I guess I'd I'd be excited if 
Bonex was not Troy Franklin's 

1288
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,760
quarterback, but he at least 
appears to be ahead of the 

1289
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,560
pecking order of he's ahead of 
Marvin Mims in terms of guys who

1290
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:18,560
weighs less than 210 lbs on the 
Denver Broncos Wider super 

1291
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,440
hierarchy. 
Can I, can I panic button other 

1292
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,640
people's bags real quick before 
we get out of here? 

1293
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,600
I'd like to, I'd like to panic 
button Josh Jacobs bags. 

1294
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:33,240
If Josh Jacobs can't get you 
there in a 20 point win against 

1295
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:37,240
like the second worst run 
defense in the NFL, what is the 

1296
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,320
point of Josh Jacobs? 
Like they're like Emmanuel 

1297
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:46,160
Wilson, who who like is about as
non prospecty of a prospect as 

1298
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:47,640
you could get. 
It's just been like, well, sure,

1299
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,280
I'll just play the snaps that 
Marshawn Lloyd would have. 

1300
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,560
Like Jacobs has been so mediocre
that your Marshawn Lloyd bags 

1301
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,920
that should be at absolute zero 
are are not at absolute 0 

1302
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,160
anymore. 
You you could could maybe, you 

1303
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:01,640
could maybe buy some back right 
now. 

1304
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,120
I don't know about Marshawn 
Lloyd coming back. 

1305
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:09,360
I feel like the team trusts 
Wilson pretty strongly. 

1306
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,440
Ahead of Lloyd now would be 
would be my guess. 

1307
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,920
I guess we don't know that for 
sure until Lloyd is activated on

1308
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:16,560
Jacobs. 
I don't think he's been some 

1309
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:20,720
amazing pick by any means. 
I I was right even with the 

1310
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,320
field with him. 
I had 7% of him. 

1311
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,760
So I guess even slightly 
underweight, but I I still think

1312
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,160
this is a guy like you look at 
his role, 60% of the rush 

1313
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:33,760
attempts, all the inside, the 
five carries on what should be a

1314
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,400
top ten, top twelve NFL offense 
the rest of the way. 

1315
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,360
I think the touchdown lock could
could break his way. 

1316
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,920
I don't think he's going to be 
some league winner like he was 

1317
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:43,400
in that year with the Raiders, 
but. 

1318
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:48,640
I'm on I'm on team poke here. 
I mean, the the offense just put

1319
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:50,600
up what, 4 touchdowns through 
the air. 

1320
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:55,440
So, you know, if the if he 
scores two of those on the 

1321
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,840
ground with one yard, the punch 
insurance were like, Oh my God, 

1322
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:02,680
Josh Jacobs is a league winner. 
So I think it's, yeah. 

1323
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:05,960
It's a little bit like the the 
Bijan thing. 

1324
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:07,960
With you like you could have 
taken, you could have taken 

1325
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:09,560
Christian Kirk instead of him 
so. 

1326
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:16,479
Yeah, anytime you can take the 
slot only wide receiver on the 

1327
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,080
Jacksonville Jaguars, you just 
you just got to hammer it a. 

1328
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:21,880
Lot of that Trevor Lawrence, 
man, he's going to eventually 

1329
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,560
he's going to be good, right? 
He's a generational quarterback 

1330
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,279
prospect. 
He has to eventually be good. 

1331
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,000
His taking his receivers is good
process, right? 

1332
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,319
It's surely this is not going to
blow up in her face again. 

1333
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:36,439
The thing about Trevor Lawrence 
is like, I, I don't really like,

1334
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,840
I think I stand in the middle 
was between the people that say 

1335
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,319
he's terrible and the people who
want to make like an excuse for 

1336
01:08:41,319 --> 01:08:43,160
him every game. 
Because you do watch the games 

1337
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:46,200
and both last year and this 
year, Jaguars wide receivers 

1338
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,080
love dropping the ball on Trevor
Lawrence. 

1339
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,319
They they absolutely love. 
There were four yesterday, but. 

1340
01:08:51,319 --> 01:08:54,560
What if he several in the end? 
Zone 2:00 What if he just throws

1341
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,359
the the most dropable ball in 
the NFL? 

1342
01:08:58,359 --> 01:08:59,960
Have you thought? 
Of that wouldn't explain the 

1343
01:08:59,960 --> 01:09:06,000
interceptions. 
I think, I think Trevor Lawrence

1344
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,040
is going to be in the NFL for 16
years and we will still have 

1345
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:10,439
never decided if he's good or 
bad. 

1346
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,120
I think he could. 
Have his that's exactly. 

1347
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:16,000
Right, Matt Stafford moment. 
Eventually, I think there's a 

1348
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,120
chance of that. 
He he does not have the arm 

1349
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,160
talent that Stafford does, but 
yes. 

1350
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:22,399
Yeah, Stafford's a pretty good 
comp. 

1351
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:24,040
Stafford. 
Stafford's. 

1352
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:25,920
I mean, he was, he was the 
biggest loser. 

1353
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,160
Like Stafford was like he's 
always hurt. 

1354
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,120
His team's always lose. 
Like when they when the Rams 

1355
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:35,640
traded for Goth everyone wanted 
to say or when the Rams traded 

1356
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:40,640
for him with the golf trade 
everyone said the Rams lost that

1357
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:44,240
trade, said it was stupid. 
This would be a funny trade. 

1358
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,920
Trade Trevor Lawrence the lines 
for Jerry Goff and throw him 

1359
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:49,680
back. 
So like my and my. 

1360
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,200
Lines are not accepting that 
trade. 

1361
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,200
No, no, I'm not saying that's 
realistic. 

1362
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,920
I'm just saying that'd be a 
funny way for Jerry Golf. 

1363
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,800
See my my my gut instinct to 
that is oh fucking lines would 

1364
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,720
be way better. 
I was just my. 

1365
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,400
Wives would not accept it. 
Yeah, well, no, they wouldn't 

1366
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,000
want to ruin the. 
Bible No, they of course they 

1367
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,600
wouldn't accept it. 
But yeah, I I think something 

1368
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,920
like that Trevor Lawrence going 
to a new situation, I don't 

1369
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:16,000
know, or like, can they get Ben 
Johnson to coach the team next 

1370
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:16,920
year? 
Can they get like? 

1371
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:18,800
Ben Johnson, the Patriots, man. 
Come on. 

1372
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,600
I mean, you don't have to sell 
me on that. 

1373
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,480
I'm I'm all in on that. 
I don't know if Robert Kraft has

1374
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,120
enough money, enough cash to pay
Ben Johnson. 

1375
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,480
He's already handed out too many
like contract extensions to 

1376
01:10:30,480 --> 01:10:32,640
Devante Parker and Juju for no 
reason. 

1377
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,920
So that might be tricky to get 
the the cash on hand for that 

1378
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:37,760
one. 
But if he's able to come up with

1379
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,920
it, man, we. 
We should talk about the juju 

1380
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,320
just miss Shuster 7 for 130 
game. 

1381
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,640
Just just real quick while we're
here, is that the most stunning 

1382
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,520
single game performance you can 
imagine? 

1383
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,400
It was like it was like the 
Richie James 9 for 180 game. 

1384
01:10:51,440 --> 01:10:52,840
I I couldn't. 
I was at a. 

1385
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,280
Concert wasn't even stunned. 
Man, I'm just like, Oh yeah, 

1386
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,000
Juju switch history went back to
the because I mean, Kareem hunts

1387
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,560
leading the backfield. 
Like they're literally just 

1388
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:01,920
going. 
They're just rewinding the 

1389
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:06,160
clock. 
I don't even know what to think 

1390
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,520
of it. 
I will say I I so I'm doing a 

1391
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,400
waiver show coming up with 
Hayden and we're going to have 

1392
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,320
to talk about Juju. 
Unfortunately, like his big 

1393
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,080
play, so his like 50 yard play 
or whatever he ran. 

1394
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:18,840
He runs a dig route first man 
coverage. 

1395
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,160
The Saints defender completely 
falls down. 

1396
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,240
Juju just has to catch the ball 
and run for 30 yards. 

1397
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,960
So I don't know if you want to 
give him credit for that. 

1398
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,760
And then the rest of it is like 
all this weird Kelsey Rashi Rice

1399
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,400
stuff for like the wide receiver
doesn't even run a route. 

1400
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,520
He just like runs and turns 
around. 

1401
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,640
And it's just on the same page 
with Mahomes and catches the 

1402
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,640
ball. 
Like that sort of weird stuff 

1403
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,800
that you really only see like 
Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes, 

1404
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,480
maybe like Matt Safford and 
Cooper Cup a little bit like 

1405
01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:47,640
when the wide receiver doesn't 
even run a route and he catches 

1406
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,440
the ball. 
That's the stuff they're giving 

1407
01:11:49,440 --> 01:11:52,560
to Juju. 
So I don't know he's until they 

1408
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,520
make a move at wide receiver. 
Like I think he's a weekly wide 

1409
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,320
receiver 3IN fantasy, right? 
Like. 

1410
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:02,680
Juju or or Videl if you have to 
if you have to pick one up off 

1411
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:04,000
waivers this week. 
I do. 

1412
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:09,680
Juju, I mean it depends what you
need obviously, but I don't know

1413
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,640
like what what's what's stepping
in here besides the trade and 

1414
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:16,840
stopping Juju from just scamming
his way to wide receiver 3 

1415
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,480
status? 
Worthy Worthy developing. 

1416
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:20,200
Worthy. 
Just. 

1417
01:12:20,440 --> 01:12:23,240
But that's only one. 
Like the thing I guess with that

1418
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,520
is Celtic too. 
Cuz there's now he's the number 

1419
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,960
three he's because I mean, like 
we, we know like the number 

1420
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:34,840
three on the Chiefs historically
has not been like a smash, you 

1421
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:38,560
know, So I guess in the number 
two spot, like that's pretty 

1422
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:40,720
good. 
But I think Worthy will continue

1423
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:42,760
to develop. 
So like the Chiefs just had 

1424
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:46,960
their buy would it really 
surprise you if they come back 

1425
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:52,680
and and worthy starts to get 
more of these option route close

1426
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:56,680
to the line of scrimmage crosser
would not would not surprise me 

1427
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,280
one little bit now we. 
Should. 

1428
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:05,440
Now you can of course, you also 
should not take me as a reliable

1429
01:13:05,440 --> 01:13:07,360
narrator because that would be 
good for me. 

1430
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:12,240
But I'm just thinking in terms 
of like, how does this team win 

1431
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,320
a Super Bowl? 
How does this team get from the 

1432
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,520
point here we're like, yeah, 
they're five and O and it's all 

1433
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:21,320
jokes and everything. 
But like, they, I, they can't 

1434
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,440
possibly, they can't get away 
with it. 

1435
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,000
They cannot think that they can 
win a Super Bowl. 

1436
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:29,920
Would you just miss Shuster and 
Kelsey getting 16 targets a 

1437
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,640
game? 
That's challenge accepted from 

1438
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,480
Andy Reid right there. 
He says, watch this, buddy. 

1439
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,640
I don't know Worthy. 
I think Worthy can get more 

1440
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,320
involved. 
The thing for me that I can't 

1441
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,640
shake is that they're going to 
have Justin Watson out there 

1442
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,680
running 80% of the routes and 
earning 0 targets. 

1443
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:51,920
So even if Worthy earns more, I 
mean, Cream Hunt's not going to 

1444
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,000
be a huge target earner. 
Like it's just like, I, I know 

1445
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,720
target vacuum and whatever, it 
doesn't always hold up, but for 

1446
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:00,800
this situation, I feel like it 
applies with Juju. 

1447
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:02,720
Like who? 
Honestly, who else is? 

1448
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,440
Well, I mean he has value. 
I must say he doesn't have 

1449
01:14:06,440 --> 01:14:08,640
value. 
I just think the bigger upside 

1450
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:09,920
swing would be by Dell there, 
but. 

1451
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,120
You know. 
What I generally agree. 

1452
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:18,400
Is they just go really heavy on 
the 12 personnel and it's Noah 

1453
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:22,360
Gray, Noah Gray. 
Noah Gray becomes like a 75% 

1454
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,640
route share guy, like Likely and
Andrew type stuff. 

1455
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:31,160
I mean, they were playing, they 
ran I believe three different 

1456
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:35,520
snaps in 14 personnel. 
It's the first time 14 personnel

1457
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:40,640
had been run in the NFL this 
season and they ran like 1/4 of 

1458
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,840
their plays at a 13 personnel, 
which like no one does, which is

1459
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:48,680
just Andy Reid is just, he is 
just fucking having a laugh, 

1460
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,000
man. 
He is just, he is just having a 

1461
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,920
laugh. 
It is hilarious because I I was 

1462
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:56,200
looking into this, Davis. 
Like you look at the route rates

1463
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,000
for the Chiefs wide receivers in
week five. 

1464
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:01,200
You have Yeah, where where are 
they at 80%? 

1465
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:05,080
Then Juju only at 66% and Watson
at 70%. 

1466
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,320
So you're like, oh, OK, 
three-part time wide receivers. 

1467
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,920
Like where's the wide receiver 
four that has 60% of routes as 

1468
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:12,280
well to make this all make 
sense. 

1469
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,080
And there's no one because it's 
it's just fucking tight ends. 

1470
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:18,040
It's 14 personnel. 
Wiley and Jodie 4I mean. 

1471
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,200
Exactly. 
Yeah, it's, it's absurd. 

1472
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,320
Jodie Fortson, technically you 
could he he was a wide receiver 

1473
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,560
in college, so maybe you could 
classify him as that guy. 

1474
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:26,880
But it is. 
It is insane. 

1475
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:32,640
Yeah, yeah, we'll see. 
I think a move for one of these 

1476
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,320
disgruntled wide receivers is 
still in play. 

1477
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,800
I don't think it's Devante, 
though, right, Davis? 

1478
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,360
I think it would be like it's. 
Got to be Amari at this stage, 

1479
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:43,480
it's got to be because if the 
Browns, if the Browns are not 

1480
01:15:43,480 --> 01:15:45,680
going to be serious about their 
season, they should at least let

1481
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,840
Amari be. 
No, but they're doing the whole 

1482
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,360
thing that they're pretending. 
They're pretending it's going to

1483
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:51,920
get better. 
They can't trade with Amari. 

1484
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,600
I mean even this week they just 
they stopped with the Prairie 

1485
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:59,360
yards to Amari. 
I think it's going to be 

1486
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,680
someone, it could be someone 
like Gross that we're we don't 

1487
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,400
really want to talk about too. 
It could be like Adam Thielen on

1488
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:08,800
the Panthers makes some sense. 
Kendrick Bourne on the Patriots 

1489
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:10,600
makes some sense like. 
Happened to Hunter Renfro. 

1490
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:12,480
This was this was his moment 
here. 

1491
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,560
It had to be something non 
football related because there's

1492
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,720
not really an explanation for. 
We haven't heard from him, 

1493
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:21,840
right? 
Yeah, yeah, I, I am. 

1494
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,800
I mean, he was in 20/21. 
He was the wide receiver 9. 

1495
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:30,880
I think that there's something 
to this idea of like the tiny 

1496
01:16:31,480 --> 01:16:35,080
pop gun slot wide receiver 
archetype is like a little bit 

1497
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:38,000
dying out in the NFL because 
teams want a big slot wide 

1498
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,840
receiver that can help with 
blocking and and stuff over the 

1499
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,600
middle like bring me bring me 
trail Beasley like. 

1500
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,280
Yeah, trail in birds. 
You don't see a ton of the Cole 

1501
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,480
Beasley Hunter Renfro types, not
like Mondale. 

1502
01:16:49,480 --> 01:16:51,400
Robins still exists, Pop Douglas
still exists. 

1503
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,920
Like these guys aren't 
completely dead, but I do think 

1504
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:55,640
in this. 
Element though on a roster? 

1505
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:57,600
Man that's so weird to me. 
I agree. 

1506
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,680
It's I agree it's weird. 
It doesn't fully explain it, but

1507
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:05,840
it I think the NFL has shifted a
little bit away from so much 

1508
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:09,280
heavy 11 personnel, so much like
pass heavy looks where they need

1509
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,600
like the block they they're 
looking for, like blocking out 

1510
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,440
of slot wide receivers more I 
think explains part of it. 

1511
01:17:14,440 --> 01:17:19,800
But anyways, we're getting into 
Hunter Renfro takes that means 

1512
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:21,880
it's time for the show to end. 
I think we've done this two 

1513
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:23,680
weeks in a row now. 
So we'll we'll actually start 

1514
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,800
the show next week with talking 
about Hunter Renfro after we 

1515
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:28,440
talk about Russell Wilson's 
calf. 

1516
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:30,680
That'll be the second segment on
the show. 

1517
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:36,360
Anyways, yeah, we'll be back 
next Monday doing the same 

1518
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:37,720
thing. 
Maybe we'll we'll mix up the 

1519
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:39,520
show a little bit. 
I think this this format has 

1520
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,280
maybe gotten close to running 
it's course. 

1521
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,880
We'll think about some creative 
ways to spice it up next week. 

1522
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:48,960
ANYWAYS, rest of the week on 
ship chasing channel obviously 

1523
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:54,080
got stat chasing sack, who I see
is in the chat here and Trico. 

1524
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:58,240
They do awesome stuff every 
Tuesday night going deep into 

1525
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,400
advanced stats across all fancy 
relevant positions. 

1526
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:05,200
So be sure to check that out and
then ship cast obviously every 

1527
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:09,040
Thursday at any details on that?
You guys still figuring that out

1528
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,160
this week still. 
Figuring it out, but yeah, 

1529
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:16,480
it'll, it'll be a good one. 
And yeah, check out all the 

1530
01:18:16,480 --> 01:18:19,880
stuff that legendary upside. 
And yeah, check out the ship 

1531
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:21,640
cast on Thursday. 
Awesome. 

1532
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:23,040
And Davis, what do you have 
going on this week? 

1533
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:24,760
I know you have a stream right 
after this, is that right? 

1534
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:28,760
Yeah, so if you just, if you 
just leave your your cute little

1535
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:32,280
YouTube window open, you will 
you will head on over to my 

1536
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:37,640
channel in 30 seconds. 
And we will we're going to look 

1537
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,320
at some data. 
We're going to look at some ass,

1538
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:44,360
which I expect 80 Mitchell to 
have the best average separation

1539
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:48,760
score separation, whatever of of
the week. 

1540
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:50,800
And yeah, we're we're going to 
we're going to cope. 

1541
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:52,560
We're going to bag the time. 
It'll be a good time. 

1542
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:57,680
Awesome, looking forward to you 
explaining how Jalen Polk looks 

1543
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,040
so good in that metric because 
I'm still trying to figure that 

1544
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,400
one out. 
Anyways guys, fun show. 

1545
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,600
We will be back next week. 
Have a good week everyone.