We finally arrived. It is main event draft season.
We are going to kick things off tonight with the first of four
FFPC main event drafts over the next four weeks.
Every Thursday evening we will have one for you.
And tonight we are joined by our stat chasing fellas,
Sacrilegious in Draco. We are drafting from the one O2
spot. Let's giddy up here.
Pat Fryer, Helmo Anita. Hand job.
Fix your sight. Jamar Alpha.
Cory Chase. You.
Can't. Handle the heat.
It looks like we're finally at this.
Point here right? All right.
No time for. Pleasantries, we are on the
clock. CMC goes first here, boys.
Now the the chat can't see this but there's an IR designation
next to Lamb so should we play for him to come back?
Why is there other? Things here other than than CD
Lamb, are you guys all good there?
I mean, he just Loled his G or his his owner talking about.
Yeah, I think it's CD, right? Are you guys all good with that?
Yeah, yeah, it's, yeah, I'm good with CD.
I don't know if we we we wanted to get an LOL discount on.
The, well, sacrilege. You're the you're the Cowboys
fan. What's the what's the boots on
the ground? Is this holdout situation
actually going to materialize? I, I don't know, I it's just
Jerry Jones doing stupid ass Jerry Jones things.
It's, it's, it's gotten real old man.
It's been this guy's lived way longer than I thought he would
live. We're at the third pick.
Let's go. It's been a men's season.
So I have a Mark Green to go on sack.
What are you drinking? I poured some whiskey.
I was like, look, it's not hot. It's.
Got. To be one night, I could tell.
How are you? How are you doing down there,
Draco? Doing yeah, doing good, doing
good. Had a little bit of news and
Lauren and I, my wife, we, we're now we're expecting a child.
Hey. Congratulations.
That's a long, long, long time man coming.
We've been trying for a long time so.
We're we're wishing death on people.
We're welcoming a new life. That's an emotional 1st 5
minutes. That's incredible.
To be clear, I did not wish death on Jerry Jones.
You just expect virility. Yeah, but but you need to
clarify that you didn't wish death on someone.
It's definitely. There's a lot of things that are
explained by my I did not wish death on by not Jerry.
You find yourself devastating that you haven't wished death.
Not everything went perfect up until that.
The the way I kind of read it is like this, this town ain't big
enough for both Jerry Jones and Draco's future kid.
Someone's got to make room for him.
I am I'm kind of shocked that the the draft is paused already
with. Yeah, what do we got going on?
Is there anything in the chat Draco?
There's nothing. Yeah, it just says draft is
paused 1 moment please. All right, so is he going to the
bathroom or something? Like he doesn't want something
to Mr. Pick. Because they do have.
The person on the clock is isn't in the room.
You can see from the red dot under their name.
Everyone else is in the room. They're probably trying to call
him. You know, it's main event
season. They try to make sure that
people don't auto right. Yes, I mean this draft filled
what, 6 hours ago? There's another theory here, No
Cat Mac, that Jerry was listening and and is shut down.
It seems as likely as anything else, to be honest.
Stark Hinder says they're just switching at Taysom Hill back to
tight end. Oh man, that's nice.
That's exciting. How?
How did you just find out? Sounds like you kind of just
found out. Well.
No, I didn't just find out, but there's the whole like there's.
That. Period.
Like, not yeah, yeah, not Lauren.
She just posted it on social media this week.
And then I was, like, going to post it in a Discord, but it's
like, well, now I'm talking to you.
I might as well. This is a better way to share
than this. That's right.
Look at that, Chris. Cheap. 199 super dead but buy
one of their socks. If you share that with me, I can
get 1/5 of a new pair of shoes for all.
Right, we're back to the races. Tyree kill and Bijan go here, so
not too long of a delay. I don't.
Believe so I also did the the you know, the the August, the
August move pregnancy in August. It's nice, it's good.
It's pretty good for the football season.
I have to I have to recommend it, although I guess no, you
would have been early. So is this is this a pre?
Is this football season conflicting with the birth?
No, no, we get at March 10th so fully, fully in the clear.
Perfect. Right in that like football dead
zone. Oh yeah.
Pat, how are you spending August as a good time to have a baby as
a football? Con No, not a good time to have
a baby. A good time for her to get
pregnant. Oh, OK.
Yeah, yeah, sorry. I thought you said half a band.
I was like. That's an awful time.
I our like I legit when Lorna I started talking about it like I
wanted to try to time it better and then she's just like, no,
we're going to start. And so then, you know, December
like I was like trying to do the whole like mid February, just
time it up perfectly. That, I mean mid February's
ideal. And that didn't work December
8th. But I got to, yeah.
I was actually didn't. Go over well, like no, we can't
try this time. We got to wait till next month.
It's also like half the year where you're like, I can't, we
can't be trying right now. Like CD Lamb, I'm threatening a
holdout babe. She's like lol.
You're like, I don't feel a sense of urgency this time.
You're the Jerry Jones, she's the lol.
That's probably up later. So I know Draco and Zach, you
guys have done a bunch of the the best ball tournament drafts.
Have you guys done any of the managed drafts on FFPC yet this
year? I have not yet.
I've got 1 ticket to the the smaller the 3:50 that I still
have to do so. This is my first managed draft
on FFPC. This.
Nice. Yeah, this will probably be the
only for me. I, I these funds are these teams
are fun to do, but I'm not at I'm not great at the in season
management. So I like to keep that load.
Get in line, brother. Yeah.
That's why we have Steph we. Are lucky to have Steph the the
biggest rule of of managers. You just go get your guys right.
You just draft whoever you want whenever you want 20 picks ahead
of ADP. Right, right, right.
Especially in the $2000 drafts like you just right throw ADP
right out the window. Yeah, I mean, not gonna let the
room dictate who we pick. Jeez.
Yeah, I didn't reckon, I know Hubbard is in this draft room,
didn't recognize any of the other drafts.
It didn't fill until this afternoon.
So it was a bunch of people kind of piling in at the at the last
minute here. So we'll see how it how it goes.
We get Sam Laporta goes at 110. He's generally been what, early
second round guy. So maybe a little signal of
what's to come. Yeah, that's interesting.
Right. Especially if they double top
here, that really puts the squeeze on.
Yeah. Garrett Wilson, A.J.
Brown and Monroe, Justin Jefferson, Chase Breece, The
other picks in reverse order. How I sent them after Bijon?
I don't know who I got to pay to to get a 111 room or Garrett
Wilson still there, but I'd I'd like to pay them.
Well, you're going to be in luck because I believe two of our
other teams are are one nines in the coming weeks.
I will be OK at 1:00. Night.
Where do you guys think you could goes in this?
Because like in question. First or second round, paying
$2000.00 for the draft probably feels a little uncomfortable
picking him. I think he goes in the next 5
picks. I, I don't think he falls that
much, but I think he should fall further than that.
Oh, that's interesting. I don't think he should fall
really at all. He, he had like with some kind
of like sack. He burst in his knee.
It's like it's an uncomfortable thing.
He's going to probably be back at practice next week.
I think next week. I mean, maybe not next week, but
they were basically like I read one of the injury doctors who
was like, yes, it's week to week is in.
You should take a week off after this and then like reassess next
week. But it's not like the type of
thing that you would really expect to have any impact by the
season. Right.
It's it sounded like a little bit of a thing where it's like
you want to be fully rested going into the season.
You don't want to go into Week 1 and he's just kind of playing
through an injury, but. Do you guys have any concern
about not getting in training camp, like not getting the reps
all through August? Not really.
I I would if he wasn't Matt Stafford's favorite target last
year. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
But then all the. Reports that he.
Was like Cooper Cup it, it's going to run through Cooper Cup
again and he's the right. That's a different thing.
And I think a reason to like, I flipped and everyone's flipped
at this point. Garrett Wilson ahead of them and
that's, you know, you know, good enough reason to do that for
sure. But I mean, he was just but
Cooper Cups flying up. Cooper Cup is flying up.
Yeah. How does that impact your your
take on? I just it's so concentrated,
right? It's one of these two guys.
And then you have the you do have upside with each of the
guys that it really flows through them and they both have
pretty strong cases to be that guy.
And even if they're not the other guy, it's it's like it's
not going to be a total disaster, especially since after
the top eleven players, there's such a fall off that we all feel
anyway. So like the the miss is
basically like Puka was really not part of the top eleven.
He was he was going 11th, but he was really more in line with the
guys going in the early to mid second.
I can live with that. And then the upside is he builds
on his rookie year. Yeah, that that makes sense.
Interesting vivo pick here. Oh, go ahead.
Yeah, no. And I was just gonna say I know
I have a hard time going from underdog brain over here too.
But the the puka stuff, you think about where puka is on
underdog and a half point PPR and like what the boost he gets
in full PPR too. It's just really hard to let him
slide with that that workload. Yeah, we so we do see.
So the turn goes Gibbs, Barkley, Garrett, Wilson.
Drafter grabs Debo. The Laporta drafter does grab
Puka there so it doesn't slide that far.
Then we see Trey McBride, Kelsey and Kyron go off here.
Debo and. Kyrie.
Both are Kyron too. Yeah, yeah.
Yep, Yep. People are it's get your guys
season. I mean people have been saying
Kyron belongs in the second round for a while.
I know why Hayden Winks has been banging that drum.
I'm saying he should be with Jamir Gibbs, Debo obviously with
the Iuke trade. He just replaced Puka.
He's now the wide receiver 8, right?
Does Debo go that high in an underdog?
He's been. Moving out a.
Little bit but The thing is AD PS like 17 now, but it's it's on
the rise and I think that makes sense if Iuke gets traded I
think he he belongs right there with London.
I I'm surprised London's still on the board 28 but.
Talking. About.
Yeah, I I got to say, I mean, Barkley finally goes where he
should here at the 1-2 turn in a ship chasing room you.
Love to see it. It's nice.
Marvin Harrison and JT off the board.
So we got two more picks and then we are up, fellas.
And it does feel like we are gonna have the decision that we
spilled thousands and thousands of.
Words. On that.
Well, it's a different one potentially.
It is. Potentially, yeah.
There's a few different ways you could go here.
I mean, I, I know that we're all super high on Dalton Kincaid
here and that's what we're really thinking about.
I mean, that's, that's that is my next highest high end, yes,
but I that's not the even the discussion we had.
He's probably going to go, I would guess.
I don't know. That's what Sacrilegious is
trying to do, is get him. To go Yeah, he's really trying
to get him. Off the.
Board, I'd also like for him to go.
You're not worried at all about the Kincaid route stuff that's
that's been pretty bearish out of camp.
I mean, I, I am a little bit, but I'm more focused on the
upside scenarios and it's this is not a very good passing game.
He doesn't have like nobody else can really earn a lot of targets
and. All this stuff.
Just doesn't seem like what's important to the actual Derrick
Henry goes. Derrick Henry.
So with tree palatable tight ends, I kind of think we go a
Chan here and then get whoever comes back.
I was going to float that too. What do you guys think?
That's what I was going to float.
I'm good with the Chan here. Yeah, yeah.
And I, I, I almost wonder if it, whoever we wanted was going to
come back. So it really doesn't matter if
we did have a preference on the tight end.
But it does seem like we don't have a consensus there.
So maybe this drafter will make it easier on us.
Right there, there. There's obviously, yeah, couple
tight ends. I mean, I think we all really
were. We're excited about the
possibility of eight Chan, right?
Yeah, yes, right, I think. 8 Chan.
Is very. Smash.
Yeah. It's a really fun pick.
Really fun pick. Really, really fun pick.
Yeah. And we even when we did our show
like back or we'll we'll make these picks and then we can talk
a bit about this If Adams goes at the tournament ETS.
Oh my God. Entire the entire thing, I'm
cool with whatever, you guys, whatever.
Yeah, I. I kind of wish we had an easier
decision here. Yeah, this is a really tough.
One Zach pick your pick your favorite tight end.
It's it's up to you guys. I mean, you know, you know where
I lied, Draco, I'm, I'm firmly on the Mark Andrews train here.
OK. It's got your guys season and
the ADP isn't that far apart like it's 28 versus 24, which I
guess it's early round so. Little little AD value on
Kincaid. Oh, a little ADP value.
Yeah. Does anybody object to Andrews?
No, that's my preference too. No, no, no one would.
No one would. Ever.
Object to that. But after, after all of our our
talk today, I would take piss over Kincaid if we if it came
down to it. But yeah, interesting.
OK. And it's funny because I think
if it was just me, I think I would have just done the ADP bro
theme And like Kincaid's not normally here grab grab Kincaid.
But I I like Andrews a lot and this start seating lamp on H and
Mark Andrews. It's hard.
Yeah, I mean. Let's just get. 50% Mark
Andrews. I mean when we get the ATP
value. Dude, I'm so glad you're on
board. We had a long discussion in
Discord and it sounds like I won Bent over.
Ben did get me to draft so much Kyle Pitts today, though.
I had 309 slow drafts going and I got to say I think I'm like,
hang on, what, what, what, what? No, of the 309 slow drafts I
have going, I think like 40 or so.
We're in a position to take Kyle Pitts today.
And I'm pretty sure out of those 40, like 30 of them took Kyle
Pitts. So wow, I'm getting the exposure
corrected. I love that.
Well. The thing and we talked about
this when the very first show when we were doing like the best
ball to manage transition and we pulled up the FFPC draft board
and looking at this side of the board.
And if you pass on the running back and you pass on the tight
end, either of them at this turn, you're like almost
funneled at least in this current landscape to A0RB and
punt tight end build like you, you almost have to take one of
the running backer tight end just the way the ADPS fall.
And I think when you get both of them here, we're now set up for
like Max flexibility, Max best player available at the every
juncture for like the next 7 rounds.
Yeah, Yeah, you you really buy a lot of flexibility with the
start because there are wide receivers available in round 7-8
and nine in a way that there's not 100 dog at all.
I mean, there are in round 700 now, but not the late 7th
really. Yeah.
And, and one of my, yeah, one of my biggest questions and are the
reason I I wanted to have our discussion the way we had it and
was because very often we had been taking Mark Andrews in the
second there, even though his ADP is the third is the third
round. And that, that's what started
getting us to the 4050% Andrews. But actually getting a second
round player and then Mark Andrews like they're in the turn
to take him and him coming back somehow feels a lot better than
than just take him in in seconds.
We're all trying to. Find the guy who got us to 40%
Andrews. Yeah, so Kincaid does go off 2
picks later. So there's another rainbow start
like ours. Bijon Drake and Kincaid, the two
other tight end teams, grab Neighbors and Nico for two wide
receiver, one tight end starts. My favorite part of the of the
Andrew's 40% exposure comment was like it's it's main event
season if you do have any qualms like you can easily recorrect
it. But you guys were like, no, no
on the main events too. I guess I'm in on Andrews now.
I haven't been that heavy on him, but you got him to the main
event, you're in on him. Here you are.
Yeah, I mean, it's nice Like we had, we had, we got lucky in our
first main event to get Breece to fall to six, right.
Yeah. You're out of the six Volt.
Yeah. And then you grab, we grab
Waddle and then we grabbed. No, we grabbed Kelsey and then
we grabbed Waddle. Yeah, My God.
But that, that those first three rounds, 1 running back, one
tight end, 11 wide receiver, doesn't matter too much like
which order it's in. I guess the running back I kind
of really prefer to be the first two rounds because I don't love
the guys going in the third. But it's just it's a nice start.
Really sets you up well in this environment.
Pitch with three times Insane. Just putting it out there.
This is a good point by Nick too.
With one O 1 taking Adams and ETN there, I'm confident y'all
would have gotten HN AT3O2. See, I'm actually saying I'm not
confident. No, I'm not at all.
I think if they were willing to take ETN then they would have
been very open to taking. HN.
Takes HN, right? Right.
They wouldn't take ETN over HN. Right.
Probably. I, I, yeah, I mean, you could
quibble with which Titan we took, but I don't think you can
quibble with our decision to take HN because we literally had
three tight ends we were comfortable with and he only
gets 2 picks, you know, So it's just a, it's a no brainer, I
think to let that let the guy decide for you.
I mean, we didn't have you even have consensus on which tight
end to go with. So let the let the guy get his
pick. Right.
We were actually hoping they would take some tight ends to
like with each make the decision easier.
Exactly. Yeah.
The yeah, so oh wow. So the the 12 hole has started.
Gibbs, Barkley and Josh Jacobs. Let's go.
That's a. True.
Trophy IT. My face is melting.
Do it again. Scott called that earlier.
I'm I'm pretty sure Rashad White, that's what this team
needs. I'm.
Donald in baby you sure you. Didn't see that.
Oh my God. The.
Oracle. The Oracle.
Absolutely you like. It literally like as it was
coming out of your mouth populated on screen.
Amazing, somebody clipped that. That was insane.
Couldn't have been. I mean, that needs to go in the
intro. That was so.
Good. Wow.
Neil says some people don't ball, other people don't.
Amazing. Well if any of you guys have the
tequila, you can do a Mr. X night until they take their
first wide. Receiver.
I am drinking tequila so. We'll see.
Wow. When I drink whiskey on stream I
tend to get hammered. So, and and just as a reminder,
what are you drinking? Sacrilegious.
You're good at, you know, ball ball parking, stupid math,
things like this. How many times in the FFPC main
event do you think one team will start four wide receivers and
the team directly next to them will start 4 running backs?
The yellow on green that we're seeing from the 11th.
Wow. And it has to be adjacent like
that. It has to be adjacent.
It's. Beautiful too.
Like it's just completely pleasing.
How many? How many?
Total teams in the main or how many total drafts in the main
event? Yeah, let me let me see here.
We'll look this up. Main event All right there are.
2 Where are we gotta go in the rules?
4260 teams the what? OK.
Is that? 200-4200.
Fascinating to see in addition to the Debo pick, Brandon Iuke
sliding here. Yeah, one on my sheet, I've
moved him down, but he's he's still showing up as one of my
top available wide receivers. Yeah.
So there's, there's 355 total drafts.
I, I don't want him. I, I want him to go.
I desperately want him to go. You guys really want to take
Arthur Smith's wide receiver one?
He's gone. Hang on.
It's. Got to happen under under 4 1/2
times for sure. I I under 3 1/2 out of out of
you guys just finished drafts. Is what we're trying to say if
if you're in a main event draft this year, do you see this
happen? Send us a screenshot.
I really want the screenshots. Please tag me.
Yeah, Christie has team 11 and 12 both think they're drafting
next to an idiot. That's a great comment.
The duality of man, yeah. Yeah.
All right. So we are going to be coming up
here at the 4-5 turn. Pittman, Ingram, IU, DJ Moore,
James Cook, Evans and the aforementioned Rashad White, the
other picks here. We're going to be looking at
some yellow, some deep, some really good options though,
that's for sure. Metcalf goes.
Yeah, I'm. I'm just throwing dudes in the
queue. Feel free to ignore me, but
yeah. Don't do some queue.
We're going to be happy with who we take.
Yeah, you're going to love the way you look.
I guarantee it. I was OK.
Wow, Kittle goes. I was I was going to make a
case. For for Kittle.
Here. I am at the top of the queue.
I was pretty interested. That would have been an easy
sell. I think we were about to
windmill it. Yeah, that's.
Why you? Yeah.
That's why you got to take a tight end in two or if you're
early three, right? Because you're not going to be
able to get right the certainty of anything coming back.
I mean, at this point now, it's like, do you reach on Ferguson
now, right? Yeah, 2.
Teams with the double really starving the beast in this room.
Yep, yeah, we would have. We would have done the double.
So I like it, but glad we have Andrews.
This this tier of wide receivers is both like you're glad to get
one, but also, you know, like, couldn't it be couldn't it be
one of the ones earlier too? Yeah, well, there's one that I
have a tear up from the rest. Nice.
OK, good, good. I think I think Gretches is
probably who I was looking at. I think he goes there.
Autos. I mean the whole reason you take
Andrews is to set up the week 17 correlation with Dicks.
So flowers is what I'd normally take, but you know the double
with Andrews isn't a eel. Can we go back and take it,
Kate, please? I don't why?
Why do you not I'm still. OK, I'm I'm yeah, OK, I'm OK.
Completely fine because they've thrown fewer than 500 pass
attempts in four. Of the last five.
Seasons like it's Mark and Greg. Roman and stuff.
I'm I'm good making a systemic bet on the I'm I'm pretty yeah,
but the Ravens are. I wanna I wanna plant my flag on
the Ravens this season. It feels like a yeah.
The the scenarios where Andrews is smashing, I'm feeling really
good about. Do you not think these other
receivers are in the same tier? Why are we?
Pushing that, I know you want to flag plant that, but we've
already done that with the Andrews pick.
I think it's a pretty strong correlated bet to say that, hey,
we think that Andrews is. Fundamentally mispriced.
Right. Yeah, it sounds like what Jake
and Zack, because if you if you say Andrews is fundamentally
mispriced, we took him here at the three two because the Ravens
are passing more than the market is is projecting right now.
And if that's happening, save flowers is probably cooking like
this is a pretty consolidated offense between Andrews and Zay
in the passing game. So we have a lot of.
Choices here. We got to figure out this pick.
No. I don't think Lamar is.
An AP of 58. Yeah, Josh Allen is still on the
board. Yeah, I don't, I don't think.
I would. I don't.
I mean, he might come all the way back.
You don't have, I don't think you have to take Lamar, right?
I think you should take Lamar. We just did the double stack and
instead of 1/3 receiver that could be.
I think we should take the receiver.
I would be receiving I. Think I was going to say Higgins
or. I.
Think I'm Higgins with all the camp reports, they're saying
he's having the best camp of his career, all that stuff.
I don't know. I'm good.
Yeah. Are you looking with either
Higgins or Dell? I have Dell over him in my
ranks. I'm just saying that right now,
like. Yeah, I'm saying, but I'm not
going to push back on on Higgins.
It's. I'm not a.
Back-to-back. Does anybody else have a strong
lien? I don't have a strong lien.
I'm I'm happy with the other guy.
What you guys want here? Well.
Dricco, who do you like? You run out of time.
Well, I think one reason to do tea, and I know when time to
open this up as well is, well at least it gives us another at the
Burrow. Yeah, if that's true, we have
yeah. The reason we don't take Lamar
here is we have all the quarterback outs in the world
with with whoever we took between T and Dell here.
Yeah, and and Dak with Lamb, right, that's.
Yeah. That's true.
You guys are right. I think the receiver was the
right pick. It's kind of the end of a.
Tier where it like it's a it's a there's an opportunity cost
there, Pete, I'm sorry if if tank was something you, you said
you didn't feel strong about something you.
Don't mind I they're both very close for me.
I think the the Stroud slide is like always a little compelling
to me as well. But the Burrow thing is, is
nice. As we could have had a really
fun week 17 thing if we took Tank there.
I was just talking about it with Diggs.
I didn't really think do that. Yeah, we talked about the Lamar
thing until we had like 18 seconds of the clock.
Yeah. The week 17 means a little less
than the Sprint though, you know.
Yeah, it does. Yeah.
I was just like, like it was the last week, like chronologically.
So you kind of want the comeback, you know, mechanism.
I take tank over T and best ball pretty easily, but I also in
manage like T is I don't think like, OK, I like digs because
digs could be better than Nico Collins.
He could be the number one there.
Is Tank going to be like the number one?
That's kind of how I feel about this too.
Yeah, that's why I leaned T here.
I think. Yeah 'cause like you lock him in
like TS in the flex every week. I feel like Stace is holding
out. There's some weird scenarios and
TS in practice and he looks great.
Like this is something I'm thinking about with the IU Debo
stuff where like people think that whenever IU shows up or
whatever gets traded, he's going to be fine.
Like this dude at this time last year, everyone was praising
Brandon IU Dubo had the the quote that he he couldn't guard
him in a in a phone booth. Everyone was like, this guy
showed up so focused all that stuff.
And that's why he went on to have the the Super elite season.
I think people think even if he doesn't get traded, that he's
going to like just step back on the field and be great with San
Fran. And I'm pretty skeptical of
that. Like I think he's going to start
really slow. They have other options.
I think there's not as much of A risk of that with Chase, but the
fact that Higgins, who wants to be traded eventually, wants a
new contract but has shown up to camp and and reporters are like
he's having the best camp of his career.
I'm like, dude, we're getting a Mulligan on taking him with a
2-3 turn last year. We're getting him at 5O2.
Like he could be a beast, man. He played hurt all last year.
I don't know it's but Tank. Tank's a really good thing.
He's a good. Thing I I like I like the
thought of with T you feel confident in in starting with
every week, whereas tank is maybe going to be more spike
wiki and you might not know the weeks to start them.
Right. It feels like T could be this
year's IU cause kind of why I drew that line.
Like what IU was doing last year, that 4-5 receiver that
we've been waiting on and was getting all the Canton butts and
we all think he's good. We think he's good and he's
like, OK, this is the T Hagen season.
He's playing for a new contract. Yeah like yeah, I like that.
And so I was I was on Davis Maddox Pot and we we're talking
through the Garrett Wilson Justin Jefferson thing and I was
like explaining, I was like talking through kind of the
Justin Jefferson stuff and why I like it.
And then I was like, I think I just talked myself into Justin
Jefferson over Jamar chase. So when you talk about the
holdout, you know, like, where are you on that?
Because like that's that, that holdout stuff that you said with
with chase, because we're kind of giving chase all these
situation tie Breakers, but actually the situation isn't as
clean as it seems. It isn't and, and Lamb's holding
out too. And it's, it's a really
interesting question. Sean asked me about this today
as well or, or yesterday or something.
We recorded a couple times these last couple days.
But I think because Chase and Lamb both they, their teams need
them so much that like when they come back, they'll be fine.
Like apparently Borough had a quote.
They need one day of practice and they'll be up to speed and
they'll be good to go, which is probably true.
They played in college together as well.
The Iuke thing is, is more skeptical, like I'm more
skeptical of even if he doesn't get traded because they have
CMC, Debo and Kittle who are all practicing and are all like like
they're just going to bring Iuke along slowly, aren't they?
Like why would they rush him back?
Like I think Lamb and and chase they will.
They'll play 90% in the snaps in week one because it's I think
it's like, how much does your team need you a little bit?
Right, right. Yeah, One thing I there's lots
of people in the chat and this is because we haven't fully
explained and everyone's used to different formats who don't know
this format here. So I'll explain.
First of all, this is managed. This isn't best ball there's 12
weeks and then there's a four team playoff here.
Seed one is team with the best regular season record.
The next one is team with the highest point total and then it
flips back to the team with the next best record, followed by
the team with the next points highest points total.
Then you have the league playoffs in weeks 13 and 14, and
then teams advance the top two to the championship round weeks
15 through 17, which is the Sprint that Sacrilegious was
just describing. So you're it's your total
points, you are setting a lineup each week, but it's your total
points across those three weeks. It's not individual pods like it
is in Basketball Mania. Yeah, So what actually?
3. Teams advance out of each
league, is that right? What'd you say?
Up to three teams advance out of each each twelve team league top
point score top, top record get in automatically right.
And then if you win the league, you also get.
In it it so if one of those teams, it's just. 2.
I think it's two to three teams get, yeah, two to three teams
get in. Yeah.
Yeah, one reason as well to go T over tank is the is the week 14
lies? Isn't that the final week for?
The that is the last. Yeah.
And so having like we're hoping we get Lamar here.
Well, I guess we won't. Yeah, that's what we were
playing for. And if we had four No yeah, 4
early picks with a Week 14 by in the final, that would have been
pretty tough. That's the point.
It would be. I think we're totally good
without Lamar. We just probably want to
prioritize one of these other right, one of these other guys
for our Yeah. I mean, it's kind of funny
because I mean, this is not I, I'm not, I'm not going to stand
on this take necessarily. But Lamar's when we were talking
today, I was talking about Lamar's upside case is a lot
easier to see because any year he can run for 1200 yards, he's
his career high in rushing TDs is only like 7.
He he could just still have a career high rushing season.
It could be so, so good. But when you take Andrews and
Flowers, you are really buying into this Monkin thing.
And you're saying that Lamar's probably not rushing for 1000
yards or for all these rushing TDs.
And then you get to that point where you're like, well, if he's
more of a drop back passer, like he's still probably really good
in this outcome because he'll run some.
Yeah, I actually think that's that's his highest upside.
That's probably the highest upside scenario.
Yeah, that's his highest upside scenario.
That's why I'm like, we just bet on him to have a nuclear.
We bet on him for a back-to-back MVP.
So that's you know, that's why it's like, how do we not take
him? But I I think it's fine that we
didn't take him because you get T Higgins, it's pretty big.
We're betting on pass rate being particularly high.
And if if I mean, if Derrick Henry runs a lot and the pass
rate goes high, maybe his rushing really falls off.
Like, you know what I mean? Like he's still look really
good, but be funny if he's just so Lamar's like just a pocket
passer. Powers a couple guys and we get,
we get that covered. Lamar is the pocket passer.
So. I'm tilting cause team 12 at the
turn they started with the four running backs they go Godwin and
Montgomery. How do you not take Montgomery
first if you're going to do that?
Come on, you gotta get the five. Green in a row?
Oh no. God.
Just really had to get Chris Godwin there.
I mean, think of the value on Chris Godwin there is there is
there a, is there a better wide receiver for that drafter to
take than Chris Godwin in that? Well, it's normally Michael
Pittman, but the Pittman was already gone.
Normally, that team always has Michael Pittman.
That's right. Bummer, I had delusions of Rashi
Rice somehow making it back to us.
I was hoping for that too, a little.
Klay asked me if I'd seen any of Drake May tonight.
I haven't. He he only played.
He played one series and he threw 2 screen passes.
They didn't let him do anything. Were they good screen passes?
Yeah. One went for a first down 13
yards. Oh yeah.
Oh baby. Who were they?
Two sacral. Who were they?
Talking Antonio Gibson. So get your Gibson.
Bags now. I haven't packed.
Trust me, buddy. By the way, you want to you want
to know who was out there with the first team as a wide
receiver? Taekwon, right?
Yeah, Javon Baker Taekwon and I'll say KJ Osbourne, please.
KJ Osbourne not I saw that Javon Baker on Twitter.
On Twitter, Javon Baker was the 5th receiver to come on the
field for them. Yeah, Baker.
Baker did not get on. Early.
But he did play. But he came on with with Baker.
Bobby Yeah. Wow.
We're up to four teams with two tight ends.
There's the Pitts Laporta team, There's now a Kelsey Ferguson
team, the Ingram team just took Bowers, and then there's the
Kincaid Kittle team. Good thing we got.
It's a really strong strategy because you're like really
strong because like until you get to that gross cut off, like
there's some really good values at tight ends and then you're,
you're kind of taking those values for yourself and you're
trying everyone else to the dogs.
Let's go. I love that take.
I had somebody ask me one of my like stealing signals gold
subscribers for a contrarian FFPCFFPC strategy.
I was like, take 3 early tight ends, like if you want a
contrarian like you, because you can do it.
And it's it's what you just said.
Like, I mean, it's viable. I think the.
Elite tight ends are that strong this year, and I don't think
anyone's going to go do that that that much.
I was. That doesn't usually work.
But. We don't usually have this
environment, right. You're playing to the
environment, right. You're saying 2024 is different
and people are not pricing it like it's different.
You're saying it's different at the elite tight end spots and
and people aren't playing it that way so.
Yeah, like the 10 hole could have started Laporta McBride.
Pits if they if they wanted. To I mean, that's I'm I'm I'm
going to take Buka, but that that would be fine.
I'm in on that. I want that mojo twin and a team
did that from the 112 Laporta McBride pits and I was like, I
want that deep. How how can I get that deep?
That sounds so faunty. So we are on deck.
Deonte, Johnson, Hollywood Brown, Pickens, Rice, the wide
receivers who have gone off the board in the 6th.
Definitely seems like we are gonna be looking at a wide
receiver here. I like the name in the queue.
Whoever put him in the queue, that's my I do too.
Yeah, that would be my top pick as well.
Me as well, that's what yeah, I put them in the queue.
I never like it when and there's like 1 clear guy.
I know it's always, yeah, it's always a little Draco.
I just threw another dude in the queue.
How far away would how far of a reach would it be to take that
dude that I just put in? Is it?
It's kind of a reach, huh? And is it just two in the queue
right now? I don't see.
I only see the one. I put a third in there that you
guys can't see. He's invisible.
He's. Got to refresh.
I'll refresh the Yeah, we'll see here.
AY has three seconds left, it seems like.
Yeah, Conor goes. Seems like we're all very much
into Keenan here. Yep, yeah.
Yep. That's clean.
Yeah. Pretty easy.
Calling. That was a five man, five man
windmill dunk, the first one of all time.
We love it. I'll throw out a name here.
This is something I do in baseball when I get sniped on
Lamar is I will sometimes just take Anthony Richardson.
I knew you were going to. Suggest that I was thinking of
it too. Like the whole point was we
were, we have these outs to these other cheaper
quarterbacks. But Richardson in the 7th is
pretty sick. He's also not as good at in this
format as he is. Right with the pass.
Underscoring. Yeah, that's still 4 per passing
touchdown. So it's not, it's not like when
Lamar, like Lamar was, he went like the 12th of that year, but
he was still the nuts. I didn't realize you were gonna
come into the show as the guy pushing in a AQB at every single
pick. Pat.
We double stacked one of them and then one fell to the 7th.
Are you doing this just so you can buy the dip on Josh Downs in
round 17? No, I'm actually pretty nervous
about Downs. What else do you guys like that
that didn't? I want a wide receiver.
So my preference would be Jayden Reid, but I know not everybody
loves him. I like Jayden Reid a lot.
So I I like Jayden a lot. Here.
I'm with Ben that we do the reach.
There's a chance. So the reach is that you're
wordy. His ADP is the other side of the
board. I don't think he comes that mean
we we welcome him in the mid 70. He won't come back.
That would be my with this build right?
We're talking about a wide receiver 5.
Yeah, I'm OK. I'm.
OK with Worthy, if we want to do it, I, I like Reid, but I also
like Worthy a lot. I think we're basically
back-to-back. I'm happy to do wordy too.
Well, what do you guys want though?
It's your guys's team. Sack and Draco.
You guys should decide. Draco, make the call.
We got 5 seconds. Yeah, OK, let's just take wordy.
I thought we were going to land up land on Reed there.
Pete, you're not getting the tiebreakers tonight, man.
No, I mean, I think I think I love Worthy, but I would I think
Reed is a smash as well. Yeah, Worthy's definitely.
I don't know. I don't wanna say he he's
definitely more fun. He's definitely more fun, but I
think Reid is gonna be a very fun player to have on your
fantasy teams. This.
Year I yeah, I just really. Can't.
Yeah, I'm taking him a lot. You know I I have a truckload of
both so. Yeah.
I can't think that Reid's the better than best ball thing with
all the Packers. They're all You're just hearing
positive stuff about all of them.
It's like how many freaking yards and touchdowns does?
Jordan Love really gonna throw? Four, Like, should we just all
be drafted a lot more? Jordan Love.
Yeah. I mean, I think it's the same
thing with the Chiefs. It's just like, yeah, Mahomes is
going to throw more, but I mean, the Chiefs are going to probably
have a better and best ball element, too.
That's probably fair. Yeah, I guess.
I think we're. Going to have that.
Element though, where like if he comes on at a certain point,
that's like like, oh OK, he's just very important to the team
now. Yeah, yeah, I guess in in
seasons where both of them tie for the wide receiver 12, I
think I wanted worthy. Say that again.
Because it's easier to play them.
Read read and worthy score the exact same amount of points.
Tied for wide receiver 12. I'm pretty sure I wanted worthy.
I don't know if I agree because I think don't you think Worthy
is going to be pretty volatile week to week too?
Like having massive games and also some stinkers.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, I I do agree that that will be the case.
But I think they'll be like there's a smaller window because
because he's a rookie and because you know, like he will
still be spiky when he hits, but there's like a smaller window or
a lot of his production will be. And so you're kind of more like
fishing in a barrel there where I think Reed is just going to be
like throughout the entire season, a little bit up and down
and a little bit game plan dependent.
And we're not always going to know it's going to be counter 39
or Z. The counter is, is there is a
path for Reed to emerge as the alpha on this offense.
I know it's the prevailing narrative, it's all going to be
spread around, yadda, yadda. But there's the chance that he
is by far the best wide receiver on this team and gets treated as
such. And like, if you get that
breakout, then like he's a 25 plus percent target share and
you're just starting him every single week, that outcome, at
least from the target share perspective, is probably not
possible for Xavier. Worthy from the target share
perspective, I agree, but I think by the end of the year we
could view Xavier Worthy as very clearly the best wide receiver
on the Chiefs. I I agree with that too.
I still just think that. I just think the read stuff has
been so overblown with this rotation stuff that it's no
longer like factoring in the outcomes where he is the best
wide receiver and like emerges on that pecking order into more
of a target hog than people are giving him credit for.
That's fair. I mean, he's definitely about.
I think both were values at that pick yes, I I would love if we
could have if there was any world where we could have gotten
both, that would have been incredible, but there was not.
Also, we do get to sneak a peek with savior worthy and our
ratings. That is true.
That's fun. We've got we've got the whole
sneak a peek game. Stack.
That's that's good. Oh damn dude.
In the in the sneak a peek stuff is way more, you know, enticing
for the skill position players. Like we were talking through it
with some of the kicker defense, like you got to add that second
kicker, that second defense to take advantage of it.
Like with the wide receiver, like you just say, like Xavier
worthy pops off or he does nothing like like it's just such
a a a clean take a peek on him because he's also we didn't
draft him to be a starter, right, Like we drafted him on
our bench. So we're already assuming we're
not using him week one. It's just gravy.
If he hits. That to me was like an 80 yard
TD. Yeah, to be like, oh.
Reed. Would have been.
A as well, though I should mention.
That to me was what got me. Reed would have also better take
a peek. That's a great point.
Keep trying to. Close in there.
Keep trying to justify it. No you're not.
I fucking love Xavier. Worthy, but I.
Well, I so the one thing Pat said about on this build, we
just. Took Keenan out.
Like working together would have been really fun, but we kind of
got our read with Keenan Allen. It's sort of like the thing that
swayed me, right? Zay Flowers and Seedy Lamb and
then these other like the biggest possible swing.
Like who's the biggest possible swing right now?
And I think he's a bigger swing. I don't think maybe it's unfair
to read in some ways, but it might be unfair to read Pete.
He's, you know, he's the fastest wide receiver ever.
He's first round pick and he's on the Chiefs.
That's a big. Swing.
They both have really good upside, but Reid does have a
much higher for it. Right.
You got me with that. Yeah, we play.
The magic. Mahomes.
And he's the fastest player of all time.
How about that? Is that a big swing?
Does that count? Good.
Throw it over the mountains. I'll go run again.
It kind of goes back to the Andrews Pitts discussion we were
having of like Andrews has the higher floor and the high
ceiling and Pitts also has a very high ceiling but a much
less secure floor. And I feel like that's probably
similar to the Worthy Reed dynamic where?
We've. Already seen Reed be really
good. Like if you got Reed's last
season right here at wide receiver 37, it's not even a
small win at this point. It's a big win.
You you got like 14 spots of wide receiver value if he just
repeats what he did as a rookie. Eli.
Eli, thank you. Literally on check of the notes
Bros yesterday we were drafting A-Team and we were in the late
5th and I wanted to take read and they wanted to take worthy.
So I had to do this this exact same song and dance and then be
like, no, I'm really in unworthy he's.
Gonna fucking Pete, Pete Pete. Steve Buscemi dressed just like
a high schooler, trying to act like he likes Worthy.
Well, Pete's like I'm the only one who learned anything from
Sky Moore, and I'm trying to get.
Everyone else to. Pay attention.
But no, it's it's more fun to. Draft Save your world.
I'm having to pound the table on the OR build up the bear case
against the guy I was drafting in every single big board draft
because I. Said I, I was going to say
you're you definitely were were getting me more bullish unworthy
in the big board. You're, you're part of the
reason I have some good quotes from like February where Pete's
like this guy's going in the first round.
Why are we not drafting him higher?
He's going in the first round. I felt like every ship chasing
stream, you were like Worthy. It should be going higher.
You got me on Worthy early too. I got you guys all I dump on him
that you wanted him over Jade Reed here and.
Then the Jade traded up for him in the first round and now
you're like, I'm out. You gotta be careful what you
wish for, man. Patrick Mahomes, his team traded
up to draft him. He had the.
Boulder dearly of the Cliff, just for it to roll.
Back down. All right, let's.
Recap this team here. So we have CD Lamb, Devon H and
Mark Andrews and then we start pissing Zay Flowers, T Higgins,
Keenan Allen and Xavier Worthy. I mean, this is kind of how we
thought this would play out. You get that running back, tight
end, and now we were going to like a lot of these wide
receiver picks here. How you feeling about it Druka?
I I think. We started it pretty good.
We've got five tight ends through 7, five tight ends, 5
receiver through seven, and we got the elite running back,
elite tight ends. That's pretty.
Good spot. We got a lot of a lot of good
paths from here for sure. Another quarterback out in
adding Keenan, which is. Nice too.
That's true. That's true.
And he goes very late. Yeah, it's a good call all.
Right, there's. Brown 8O.
Five. Wow.
Hit your guy. Leg ups up Jalen Warren and and
Chase Brown. There.
Yeah, honestly, that's probably is.
I mean, part of the reason I've been taking so much brown on the
9th is because I, I kind of feel this the steam coming, you know,
Although I guess the 8th in here is really the 9th in Underdog.
All the running backs moving up. I think, I think the Zach, just
like my, my pulse on people's sentiment.
I think the Zach Moss crew is gonna, you know, Chase Brown's
gonna flip him. But I think they're gonna hold
the line enough that it doesn't get outrageous.
I've been like, I've been getting Zach Moss in like the
one 10s on Underdog today. Yeah.
So he's he's sliding. I think that's about where he
settles, right I? Don't.
That's probably I he probably doesn't go to the one 20s.
Yeah, no, he can't. I don't think he can go to the
one 20s. He'd have to flip like Quorum
and yeah, Quorum. He's not flipping Quorum, no.
Yeah. That's a.
High Burrow Burrow goes to the Chase drafter in the 8th.
I was gonna see if we were gonna discuss him at this turn.
Yeah, he's actually not. I would have preferred DAC just
because of the the bigger bet on CD.
So obviously he would have been nice.
Yeah, so. Looking at man, we have a lot of
paths here. Should we start talking like
maybe in the private chat about what direction we want to go?
Because I think you can make a case for several different
directions here. Well, the wide receiver in the
queue to me is hard to pass on. I don't know where you where you
guys are at. I I that's what I was thinking
too. It's kind of like the last.
I mean, there's another one, but kind of the last call for a wide
receiver. Yeah, it's just like I just have
a hard time not doing that. And.
Then I think I'd be quarterback. I think, I think we went upside
at quarterback given the Lamar double where we don't have
Lamar. So yeah, that's why I really,
really want it. It makes our decision easier
though this is going to be a a tough one.
Well, but yeah, our Qi mean we, we, we.
Just do a QB or. I think we shouldn't push QB.
We can push. QB.
We can push QB. OK.
So the home structure isn't. Taken.
I'd be. I'd be running back, right?
And so Mostert's a faller and I would love to take Monster, but
we have HN, we're not taking both of those guys, right?
I think it's I think it's kind of fine.
I think it's, I think in managed, it's not nearly as as,
I don't think it's as compelling.
You're kind of holding the Mostert gets hurt to yeah, open
up some HN stuff. I kind of think that if you
start two ADP followers, if you started HN and Monster every
week, that they were both active last season.
I think you do pretty well. I think you when you're sure,
yeah. But in the spring.
But that's like a very specific outcome.
Oh. My God.
Yeah, definitely. Doing I think Jonathan Brooks is
is a pretty. Yeah, yeah, I agree with.
Brooks yeah, I'm fine with. This name ADP as a Moser.
Yeah, and and and doesn't have. That he's the bigger swing.
I mean, I would, I would probably make a case for the guy
that I want to draft in every league.
Well, I think we might be able to draft.
I think that's the that's yeah, let's do Brooks here.
Let's say Brooks. Yeah, OK.
Yeah. He doesn't.
Matter, but you know what he's doing.
So to me, like I, I'm not worried about the quarterback
thing. Dak No, it would.
Have been nice, but. We're fine.
We're. Fine.
Yeah, we'll be all right, Drake. I mean, the screen.
Yeah, Drake. Drake me is still on the ward.
Yeah, the. Screen passes.
Well, I mean, that's the other thing is like we could could we
talk about Jane Daniels for the same reason that you made
Richardson cases a little bit again, Can we talk about who?
Jane Daniels? Jane Daniels?
Yes, we can definitely talk about Jane Daniels.
I think that makes a lot of sense.
I so I would. I was talking about Javonte
Williams. Who?
Yeah. I love.
I'm good with Javonte here. I, you guys can talk about Javon
Daniels. I, I would be with Jayden
Daniels actually. I mean, I do think we want some
quarterbacks up to. Pat wants the QB.
I beat I beat Javonte over Jayden Daniels here.
OK. All right.
I think I'm finally back on Pat's side.
What do you like Draco Javonte or Jayden Daniels here?
You got some time. OK, the one, one thing we like
Daniels and that we we we did a we did a double stack we missed
on it and. That's how we get it.
We do the old DFS move. We do the DFS move.
Zach's writing a bunch of stuff in the in the chat.
Actually, I think, I think that's the bigger reach now.
I changed my mind. I think we do, Javante.
Yeah, I think it's Javante. All right.
We got one second. Did you get him?
Yeah, we did. Yeah.
All right. Yeah, I, I, I was on board until
I saw the ADP. I'm like, it's like.
I realized Zach was being really quiet and I was hearing all this
typing and there's all my. Comments at the chat.
I couldn't. I couldn't say the the.
Stuff out loud. Yeah.
Let's be clear, we're OK with the ADP rage when it's Xavier
worthy but not Jane Daniels. I'm just trying to make sure.
Yeah, I think it's a lot of one of the things with with Daniel.
One of them was bigger than the other.
Daniels has some injury downside, which I think is maybe
suppressing his ADP. It's certainly suppressing my
enthusiasm a little bit because he seems to just like love
getting hit more than anything. But like the games that he
plays, I think he'll be very productive.
And so, you know, picking up a quarterback off waivers when you
need to or whatever, or having or just having to move on.
But but getting a dude, you know, finding a guy in season,
we'll we'll take a quarterback too if we had taken Daniel.
So that that element of him concerns me so much less in
managed. And I think his his weekly
ceiling is huge. So, so Jordan, to to the point.
Addison was the other wide receiver that I was looking at
too that. Goes we could.
Have done Addison yeah Addison I I thought maybe we could get him
to slide to his ADP was later and people be worried about the
suspension stuff but I've been gobbling him up lately.
I feel like he's really nice. The suspension stuff actually
looks pretty. I I BTJ is also not gone.
Yeah, right. He goes.
He goes so late on on. FFTC.
It's weird, but like, yeah, I mean, I'm in on Addison too.
I think both those guys are in the same group, but it's it is
weird. I I don't know, check.
Checking on those two, but TJ Hawkinson feels a lot worse than
managed where? You'd have to.
Use the Yeah, it's a clogger. Yeah, an awful clogger.
Yeah, it's a lot worse. I mean, it could just be, it
could just be someone having the, the opium of he's actually,
you know, the, the news. Is he's so.
Ahead of schedule, he's going to be.
Back week one and. And maybe he's thinking, OK, I'm
so behind here, I need something to fight and I'm going to take a
bunch of these guys. So, Pat, the the thing about
deals and I don't want to talk about him too, too much is like
Draco's last comment was the reach thing.
Like the only two court teams that have not taken the QB are
on this side of the board. If they don't take him right
here at this turn, we'll assume they're not listening.
There's a possibility that none of these other guys on the way
back takes him as their QB. Two, we would only be getting
him about nine pecks after his ADP, which wouldn't be that big
of a fall for a quarterback. I think it's possible that he
comes all the way back. Yeah.
No, I mean, that's, that's a good reason to to pass on them
and grab the running back 'cause I think running backs, I mean,
we know running back dries up quick, like it dries up really
quick here. So and Jonathan Brooks is
awesome. RBC 12 is not listening.
Team 12 is not listening at the. People want an update on Team
12. They started Gibbs, Barkley,
Jacobs, Rashad White. They went and grabbed Chris
Godwin instead of taking David Montgomery first, which they
should have. Then they come back.
They grabbed Jameson Williams and Dallas Godder, and they're
now on the clock here. A pretty early patch.
Call your shot. Who are they picking?
Yeah. Jordan Love.
OK, Jordan Love, So Love would have been a really fun pick if
you guys had had listened to Romeo Dobbs.
He's a stacker. All right.
Oh, he's a stacker. Wow, He's got he got almost
nothing at wide receiver. He's taken Dante, but it is.
Comes back, he took Dobbs over Wicks.
This guy does not know Ball. He read the the Packers family.
Night. Yeah, apparently he doesn't know
ball either, I guess. Yeah, he was there in person for
Packers family Knife Josh Jacobs, Jordan Love, Romeo
Dobbs. Right.
Somebody in the chat said Zeke's going to be staring you right in
the face when you're back up. And I, I'm confident no one in
this room is going to mention Zeke.
I don't think so. That's that's a best ball kind
of pick. That is not a man.
That's a it's a big time best ball pick.
It's big time. It's also the the place I would
entertain it on the main event is where we literally have 0
running backs. Yeah.
And it's like, all right, we got, we got to start Zeke Week
1. I mean, Javonte and a Chan is
great. We're set, and Brooks comes
along. Like our running?
This is like one of the best running back rooms we'll have on
FFPC. All year, yeah.
Where did where did Brooks go in our slow main?
I should have looked that up. I think he or the you.
Think he went like right before we took Rome or something like
that in the 8th. I could be wrong.
Because that already feels like ages ago.
Man, Roman the 8th would have been so nice.
Would have been really. Wow, Benson.
Still, he's been falling like a rock in underdog draft.
So Xavier Worthy in our went to our guy Gormanji in our slow
mane at 74. We got Rome at 87.
That's why so. He goes 8-9 here.
Because we grab JSN right where the wait, exactly where JSN went
in this draft. And then Rome came back.
And. Kyle, I'm with Kyle in the chat
who said this team would be so sick with Kincaid.
I'm just, I'm just reading the Kincaid there.
Did you imagine Dalton Kincaid scoring 11.5 points in Titan
Premium every week on this team? Would be incredible.
My God. Josh Daniels, Josh Allen must be
a massive bust in that scenario. Because I don't know who's
scoring points. For that team.
But I get Liam. Liam.
Cheerleader equity for those 11.5 points and how they're
actually like worth 20 points somehow.
Josh Palmer. That is wild.
One of the things I like about how we've done this is we've,
we've actually like kept a lot of roster flexibility as well.
But like we got the, we got the early running back and then and
then we've taken 2IN that kind of middle tier.
So we're, we're feeling really comfortable, I think.
We got another second tight end team.
The Hawkinson drafter goes, Schultz, Chubb comes off board
here. Yeah, so we got CDHN, Andrew
Zay, T Higgins, Keenan, Xavier Worthy and then we grab a couple
of running backs here, Brooks and Javonte Musgrave comes off
the board and we. Are this is the range, I mean, I
like Musgrave, but this is the range where if you have not
played tight end early, this is you're, you're paying a lot for
some of these tight ends relative to the running backs
and receivers here compared to like, you know what we played
like. I'm much happier with Andrews,
even though I'm not that into it in the 3rd.
And then some of these guys in nine and 10, right, like
Hawkinson 9 prime with nine, like Schultz in 10.
That's that's a tough. Pick compared to Yeah.
The. End upside.
Jerome Ford. What position are you guys think
kind of dialing on a running back is the other pick, right?
Yeah. Oh my God.
Even though you guys wanted to. Fuck it, talk about Jane Daniels
for the. Entire fucking ever.
Streamed before? Have you ever streamed a?
Draft, yeah, I was getting triggered by by you guys going
back to Daniels. Over and over.
Sorry, literally talk. About your kids dance recital.
Anything other than Jane Daniels.
Like come back to the chat and it's like it's like let's swerve
Daniel's confo no more talking Daniels only two other teams out
of QB and then Pete's like stop no more and then Draco's like
please stop because I was the. One that kept bringing you back,
we'd all have been done. And you're like, I just want to
go back to one point. Let's go back to.
J Daniels real quick. He might come back to us.
All right, so we're back. Up Zeke JK Dobbins go here.
Still running back range for sure.
Yeah, I like Chardonnay. I like Dowdell.
I think everybody you might prefer sharps just like take the
big cut. Really, I prefer Dowdell because
I think we'll we'll figure it out.
Quicker, well, you're the the CD thing is a good call.
I'm open to either. I mean, I I like building out
that team bet on. Because sharpening is so much of
it as the contingent value, like he's got stand alone, but it's
also the contingent value. And so we might just have to sit
with him for a long time. And with Dowdle, like if it's
really gross early and it's just like, I think I'm strongly
sharps here. I'm I'm pretty sharps too.
Draco's not strongly anything ever.
All right, let's see Sharps. All right.
Harps is good with me. That was he came in off the top
rope Draco, Draco, by the way, just for for those of you that
haven't drafted dozens of BBT teams with Draco, Draco is just
strongly opposed to Dowdell or any any Cowboys running back.
Draco's strongly opposed by the way.
You can't. Get a bunch of Dowdell.
I wrote, I wrote an article up on Dowdell and I mentioned that
we didn't have his rush roads ever expected.
And then I was messaged his rush roads ever expected.
I got they're -9 small sample, small sample, small actually -9
is like right in line with Ty Chandler, Jerome Ford, someone
else. It's like it's like mediocre.
It's not terrible. The bad backs are like minus A.
100 he's odd. Expectations.
Basically, yeah, He was just just under expectations 37%
success rate also kind of like not good, but not like
horrendous. Yeah, he has a one 1.3 yards per
hour on last year, which is actually pretty solid for
running back. So it didn't really change my it
made me I honestly it like made me feel like a little bit like
less like OK, this guy isn't like horrendous.
It's not bullish, but it's just like if you're betting on this
guy, at least he's at least you didn't find out that like he was
the worst running back in the league last year.
Strong, strong encouragement. Yeah, exactly.
But Draco, we're betting against Zeke.
My man Zeke. Yeah, I, I like the information
point that Sacrilegious brought up and we, we, we took Rico on
the slow main and part of that selling point was that as well.
I do think though, like this team, like our our running back
firepower, I feel so good. I guess Rico pairs well with
Jonathan Brooks, you know? Actually, Rico is the bigger
swing. Yeah, he's, he's definitely the
bigger swing, right? Yeah, 'cause he can he he also
can just be nothing like it. It's just Zeke.
And then you can strike out immediately.
It's such a disgusting committee.
It's like, Oh my God, Royce Freeman is getting touches.
What? And and then you cut him.
But with Sharbot, there's no universe where we cut Charbonnay
in like the first four weeks without him being injured.
You know, like. No, you.
Can't. Cut him.
Right. Yeah, that's he has to get hurt
for us to or we just have to be in real trouble somewhere else.
But I also think there are some of those, not quite to the
extent of the wide openness with Dallas, but there are some of
those fun outcomes where they, this new coaching staff really
likes Charbonnay and have a bigger role for him.
I know Kenneth Walker's the talk of the town right now in
Seattle, but I still think those outcomes are there where it's
like, holy cow, this is like a 5050 backfield and Zach
Charbonnay's getting the high value touches like at the goal
line and you're like, holy cow, I did not see that coming at
this price. I was pretty in on the that
narrative, but the there was reports out of Seahawks camp
that they're like, oh, this dude, Walker can play.
Yeah, they they really like Walker.
Yeah. So I think we're back to where
we were last year where he's kind of like the contingency guy
where you're hoping he earns more over the course of the
year. But do you know what's funny is
it could be, it could be like the thing in Cincinnati, right?
Like Cincinnati's saying like, Holy cow, Chase Brown's
electric, like he's gonna play. And then they're like could
still just bring in Zac Moss on pass downs and at the goal line.
Like that can still happen. That can still happen.
You're right where they're like, dude, we just gotta get, you
know, let let Kenneth Walker cook.
But then when like push comes to shove in some of those spots,
they they feel more comfortable with sharps.
I. Could definitely see that.
Kind of how it worked throughout the year last year, right where
Walker was the starter, the start.
But then as the year went on, they started giving Sharbs more
and more of those high value touches so it it could work out
like that again. And I think, I mean, I mean,
that's the most likely way for it to work out.
Yeah. Kenneth Walker's had really bad
success rates both years. And like that to me, the, the
thing I think about with success rate is it like it wears on
coaches. Like if you can't consistently
do what you're asked to do, just becomes like more and more of a
reason to like let someone else get a crack.
And Charbonnay had pretty consistent rushing style last
season and is the bigger back and it's kind of his deal.
He's like the solid chunk play runner.
So I think he, I think that's pretty realistic that over the
course of the year, they're seeing fewer of those explosive
runs and more of him getting stuff at the line on a play.
They really needed him not to get stuff at the line and that
gets sharpened on the field more. 1.
And one other thing I've just noted, so Jaden not also does
have that week 14 by as well. Is like the draft too early to
think about and who the second QB is?
Or do we just let that roll and. Figure not discuss it too much
right now. Yeah, Caleb goes, yeah, I think
we can. I'm not worried about
quarterback we got. I mean, we've done so many teams
like this in FFC, right, where you take the crack and then it's
just like you can always figure it out, right?
Figure it out later. We got to scroll.
Right image jump and and and to be fair, week 14 is is the most
amount of time we can have to figure it out like it was a week
5 by that would be much more pressing.
True, yeah. Yep.
Man, yeah, all these week 14 buys.
Man, I wish I knew ball as well as our chat, we got some people
that are saying Sharp is good at football, some that are saying
Sharp is DJ Dallas. I mean, some that are saying
Sharp's got no work in December. Some, I mean, it's like there's
a lot. Of like, there's a reason he's
an 11th round pick and not a second round pick where we all
have clarity about his role in his talent.
Jarvis is polarizing though. He's like, you know, I get
YouTube comments when we talk about him and they're like,
yeah, am I on an island here? I thought Sharps was ass.
People. Really dislike him or they're
like really into him. I think most people don't even
have an opinion on him to be honest with you really well,
it's like I don't I mean I've heard more opinions about him
than I thought I would right I know it like it leads to these
extreme stances. It seems like because it's like
the most in extreme player, like it's just like he's a he's a big
back that can play on pass down. So like you like size and and
three down ability. We haven't seen a lot from him.
You don't know a lot about his profile played under Chip Kelly.
It's like how much was the scheme?
All that stuff? I don't know.
It's it's a who knows. You just don't know.
You just don't think you have the correct take because he like
did he's like in all my rookie stuff.
He was very much like a yeah, it could be.
It could be, just don't know. He was like my everyone's like a
second round rookie pick. Like you should definitely draft
this guy in the second round. He could be good, he might not.
He might not be anything. He could be pretty sweet though,
So just take him and then see. Yeah.
I do. It is really nice where we got
three of our 4 running backs here rounds 8 through 11 'cause
we kind of see the classic, you know, FFPC run here.
This is like a difference between, you know, like the
underdog stuff for the running backs will like stretch, like
Ray Davis will be like two rounds later than, you know,
Zach Charbonnay are three. And it's like Dobbins and Zeke
went, we went sharps. Then it was Lloyd Chandler, Rico
Algier, Jalen Wright, Chuba Hubbard, McLaughlin, Ray Davis.
Like they're flying off the board, right?
FFPC will just blow true tears, right?
Like when when people that when people got worried about a
position, they'll just keep that and and taking them, Yeah.
Rico, I got a question for you in the private chat.
Yeah, yeah. I I OK, give me one second.
Now we see Antonio Gibson. So yeah, they're just getting
chewed up. Yep, I mean that screen passes.
Work pretty good. He did look good on the screen.
Yeah, I actually saw it on Twitter.
Checked the turn of the show. He's quick.
He knew where he needed to get. He executed the play.
I'm drafting him. The other quarter, the Caleb
Williams drafter took Lawrence Brocks off the board.
Now, Bucky, I mean everybody. That was the that was the the
last of the tier for me at running back was.
I was hoping Bucky made it back. You're, you're trying to add to
your 40% Bucky Irving. That's right.
I was doing the Mark Andrews thing.
I was like. I.
Want him, I want him in everything and I'm AU dub guy.
That guy went to Oregon. I should hate him but I don't
understand the button. I know, I know.
Sax is not in control of the queue.
I can guarantee that. Ben So we're on the clock.
Aren't you delighted here? I thought.
Isn't there a running back you want?
I don't know who you're talking about.
I don't see any running backs. No.
No, we're this isn't a running back pick.
I think it's the two I would be. I would be Judy.
Oh, I, I, I mean, Judy is like he's, he's been so banged up.
I. Refuse.
I refuse to do it again this year.
I I I held my tongue last. Year.
I would I would love some shares of Wix.
Wix did we take Judy in our main last year?
We did and I I held my. Oh, is that why you made him?
No, that's not why. That's the value on Wix too.
Yes, it's a yeah, it's a Wix. Wix sounds great.
Yeah, I think Wix, but I want to hear about sacrilege's put PTSD
on Judy. I I it was one of my first
streams on ship chasing and I everyone else was so into Judy
and I was just like, I'm just, I'm not going to rock the boat.
I'm going to go along with it. I think my exact.
Words were Judy's fine. And the rest is history.
Oh no. Pat, were you talking about
estimate or yeah, Tyrone Tracy estimate, estimate we could take
this is. Really right, we have response
in my bad. What about telling Polk?
What about a Polk? I was gonna yeah, let's do Polk.
Let's hammer Polk here. Wait, did Eddie Mitchell go?
I'm Polk over there. No Mitchell.
Mitchell is there, but. I think.
Polk's probably better. For as a startable, as a weekend
startable guy, yeah. Do we want no interest in
Conklin? We just took Wix.
You guys really want to go wide receiver 7.
These are upside swings at receiver, but.
I think we want to keep, I mean, I feel like our running back
room is great. I'm I'm compelled by the tight
end thing, but I still think I leaned Polk.
OK, I'm Polk and I think I'll put the other stuff in the chat
that. Would be around back here.
But. Smokes like one.
I forgot. I honestly forgot.
We had Javonte for for the rest. I was just like waiting for you
to start pounding the table for Estimate.
Yeah, he's Next up on my It's the we'd beat Braylon Allen
ourselves. Remember when we took Brayson?
That's. Right, I think Braylon Allen I.
Think it's I mean I I get it if we had like A0RB build, but with
our anchor in these three to then be passing on this caliber
a wide receiver for these running back darts just feels
bad to me. I agree.
Right. It it does feel like very much
in the bottomless section of the the running backs where like
it's all awful. My my disagreement, well, my
disagreement there would be twofold.
I I think Tyrone Tracy's I said Bucky was the last of a tier.
I think you can make the case of Tracy should be belong somewhat
in that same tier. But also is the the class of bet
that Polkas is I'm it's it's kind of funny because when we
were first talking about it in the offseason, I was like, this
is my favorite dude, watching him at UW.
But you guys are all way higher on Polk than I am.
That's about all I got for you. I mean I.
Mean why don't you? Can you at least?
Admit like in the next to these wide receivers like you know the
the class of wide receiver here is better than the running
backs. Yes, yeah, that's fair.
I think I would have been Josh Downs even with his high ankle
sprain because I saw that tweet from I can't remember his name
from Fantasy Points. Why is it invading me right now?
You. You.
That he he won't miss that many games and his return to.
Effect the 80% of the high ankle sprains are are are Edwin
porous? Edwin porous is who's awesome.
Sorry Edwin if you're watching, but he's incredible yeah that
that 80% of the high ankle sprains actually aren't these
long lingering things. It's only the 20% and we all
think they're really, really bad.
The downs could actually be back.
I have a lot of downs. I have both downs and Mitchell
ahead of Polk, but I still I mean Polk's in the in the same
group like for sure. But as far as like the redraft
stuff, I mean Polk's whole like when it's it is very this whole
thing's very funny because when they drafted Polk after they
drafted may, obviously I was like, God damn it, why didn't
you draft AD Mitchell? That would have been so much
more fun, such a higher ceiling. But Polk's whole deal is that
he's ready to go day one. He's a professional.
He makes the tough catches over the middle, you know, and I
think from APR we can plug this guy.
He's ready to be started kind of thing.
Like I feel pretty good about Polk getting there quickly and
then us feeling like, yeah, we're we're ready to start Polk.
The ultimate ceiling is higher for Mitchell, I think.
But even in those cases where he's really hit a ceiling, he's
going to be more of a downfield threat, a little bit more spiky.
You know, Polk could be kind of that like really solid PPR guy
plays on the outside. And then you get the correlated
upside potentially, maybe not on this team, but you know, you get
if may, may also, even if you don't have May, the fact that
May down the stretch could be coming into his own gives
additional upside to a rookie wide receiver.
Yeah. I mean, I guess my only thought
on Polk is from a prospect standpoint, when I got into the
numbers and stuff, dug into the TPRR, all that kind of stuff,
the thing that I've always felt at receivers, it's about down to
down consistency. And I don't know that Polk was
ever really that guy. He makes a lot of incredible
plays, but the thing that I always thought was the
difference between people who looked at the the data and the
age adjusted production versus like watching film was that the
film guys would often be captured by highlights and
really good traits and things that would show up in flashes.
But it was the ability to consistently went on your routes
the entire time, every single down that made the prospects
good. And I always go back to Josh
Dachshund for whatever reason, when I was young as a writer,
that he was like this highlight reel guy.
And then he Washington took him and that was like all the film
guys loved Josh Doxton Dachshund and then, you know, right.
Dachshund. It was it was Dachshund.
It was Dachshund. You're right.
Yeah, right. And and anyway he.
Ended up being a guy who couldn't consistently earn
volume at the NFL level, right. And so it's this ability to like
the type of stuff that keeps like Deonte Johnson underrated.
It's not what you do on the top 20% of your snaps is what you do
on the bottom 20% of your snaps. Like are you constantly open so
that you know when the the quarterback does come back to
you in an unexpected way, you get that extra target every you
know that those couple extra targets every game that come
your way. And Polk wasn't that dude.
He was the dude that made sick plays.
It was so, so fun to watch having watched them, you know,
all their games UW, you know, all through college.
Well, I, I don't watch all of polka transferred, but I, I saw
him the last couple years having watched them like he was not
like the most consistent or reliable dude at times.
And so I mean, maybe. It's just like.
Pattern matching too much on my part.
I, I do like, I recuse myself somewhat with these UW guys
because I'm too close to it. Like I think it's really hard to
have an objective view when you when you like.
Also you've been rooting for him.
Yeah, I'm like, I'm a huge Polk fanboy and so that I might be
over adjusting like the bias element of it like afraid that
I'm gonna pull a John Ross who I I was way too high on probably
right. Like I I've done this before
with us. Yeah, I mean, the the data stuff
is not that strong on Polk. He's a four year player.
You never had a breakout season. Shards per out run at the end
was OK, but it wasn't great. 25% dominated rating to close out,
which is like fine, but not very good for rookie.
I did. I was encouraged by like some of
the tape stuff, which to your point, maybe the tape stuff is
overrating some of the highlights.
But kind of Rogers compared him to Chris Godwin talking about
his ability to go over the middle and kind of win the The
Dirty work stuff. And just kind of like he's like,
I'm wondering if you can be kind of like Jacoby Myers basically.
You know, he's not that player. He's like the A.J.
Brown mold. He's this big physical outside
receiver that has a high A dot. And like Harmon, Harmon compared
him to Robert Woods. OK, I could see that because
maybe not as. Big as AJ.
Brown, I mean, that's like an aggressive comp for anyone.
Yeah, I that's an that's interesting because I was.
I hope he's more. I want him to be Robert Woods,
actually, because if he's A.J. Brown, I have all of your
concerns. Right.
That's that's my concern if he's A.J.
Brown, because he's not. And I don't even think the film
people are wrong. They're not projecting fantasy
football. They're projecting can he go
make plays and win in big spots, you know, and make tough
contested catches? And I think he can do all those
things. But in fantasy, there's a little
bit of a different thing where we want statistical peak.
We want consistency down to down, like down to those bottom
20% of the routes that I was talking about.
Like that's the part where I struggle with Polk's ultimate
upside. One nice.
Thing struggle with his ultimate upside, but I basically like, do
we need him to be? Do we need to like, can he be
the clear number one in a situation that so desperately
needs one? You know, like this this
Patriots offense so desperately need someone to consolidate
targets. Could this guy have a career
year as a rookie? Like that's kind of the profile.
That's fair. They'd need somebody for sure.
Yeah. I mean, he could.
He could come out. And I mean, if someone's going
to be like the puke and the cool, like it's going to be a
situation where they need somebody to go do that.
Exactly. Yeah.
Maybe he has some untapped ceiling that like Roma Doonsay
was masking. Right.
Like, maybe there's some stuff that like, he had to be the
whatever, for lack of better term, the beta, because there
was this real alpha and they're both studs.
I mean, that's possible. He's a guy for me that like I've
faded Dudes kind of like this over the course of, you know,
playing Dynasty where I'm like, that guy's never going to hit
the massive ceiling. And then he immediately starts
producing and everyone's like, I'll give you a, I'll give you a
first and a second. I'm like, I couldn't have just
taken him and gotten a first and a second.
That seems great. Why didn't I do that, you know?
Well, kind of like your Marquis. Browns or something, you know,
like that. Sort of like he's never going to
be a superstar. The thing about Pulk for and
this is where the chat the chat has like basketball brain.
I think right now there's like these this talking about the
Meyer stuff, the information you are going to get on Jalen Polk,
like you're going to get like these two waves like we're first
going to see right out out of the gate.
Is he playing 100% of the snaps? Is he in two wide receiver sets?
Is he earning targets? Maybe the offense looks like dog
shit, but then you can say, all right, that part's good.
Now let's get Drake may in there.
Let's open up the offense. Let's see what the second
version of this looks. If if Polk is buried early on
and not on the field and you just cut him, you know you made
a bad 13th round pick. With a pick like Jacoby Myers,
like you're never going to know when to start him.
He's now has another massive target earner in the offense.
You basically need an injury to get information to feel good
about starting Jacoby Myers every week.
If Polk is that guy, you will feel fine plugging him in
through the bye weeks through injuries.
Yeah. And honestly couldn't agree with
that more. Could not agree with that more.
I appreciate that you said the Chad is is confusing that
because I'm out on Pulk, but I don't want to be lumped in with
that. I could, couldn't.
No, no, they just I was talking about with the framing it with
the Myers because they don't. You have to think through like.
Windows, I'm OK with the pulp pick for the reasons you just
said. We're going to learn like I I
have a a player take, but I'm OK with the I wasn't pounding the
table not to take him or anything.
Right. Like it's yeah, we'll find out.
We'll find out. I am.
We're running out of running backs.
We got four. We might be done at four guys.
That was the other reason I was like, Tracy might be the last
interesting dude. I mean, maybe you guys got some
interesting. I have a name.
I've got a name. We always got names.
There's always names. What are they?
Good names, oh fields wench. We are, we are kind of true.
Get your guy. Yeah, the third.
The 12 third quarterback. Fields.
I, I think we have AI think we have a clear first pick here.
He has four steamers in three quarterbacks.
That's. So we'll see what?
This hen. This team has Comet Henry.
This is the Dak Prescott team. Yeah, running back got wiped.
You're down to the Alexander Madison's of the world.
Gabe Davis. Throws.
I feel very good about that. You guys Good.
Yeah, that's a great outcome to push tight end to that long and
get Noah Fan there. That's big.
His foot is fine, by the way. I saw that today.
Yeah, Yep. We now have 100% exposure to
Noah Fan through two drafts we got him at. 14 that's just
correct process. We just the discount on Noah fan
here compared to underdog is so strange to me.
If you took underdog in the 14th, if you took no fan in the
14th round on underdog, no one would bat an eye, no.
One would blink and no one. Would bat an eye.
That's that's how unridiculous it would be.
Yeah, all the eyes would be open.
You. I don't, I really don't
understand why. Why is he not more expensive
here? No, but we can get a we can
finish 100% if he's going to go in the 14th the whole time,
like, yeah, we just we just smash him in the 14th every
time. What about Will Shipley?
Yeah, that was that was my name. That's my last of the.
Tier I love Will Shipley so. I think that's a good pick is so
we're doing it. Yeah, is there?
I mean I. Don't know why that.
You know so. We're doing it.
You know who we Yeah, OK, well. Let's let's did you have another
third? Well, the other Husky receiver
could be an option. Oh, yeah.
But I think I I was kind of where your head was at where the
run was basically gone. Yeah.
Take Shepley. We should take Shepley.
Agreed.
Because it is. It is in that section of the
draft where it's like your opportunity cost is like very,
very low. We see him as a loss in that
tier. He has had the great camp and
you probably will get some good information early, like how
much? What is this snapshare on week
one is like important information, yeah.
This stuff here, like what is the point?
You take Mahomes and then you take Stafford and Watson?
What is the goal? What are you hoping?
Happens. I just want to know.
I'll tell you that. Are you hoping happens?
To not have to labor over who to cut after Week 2.
I just want to know. I just want to know.
He's going to need the the roster spots though with Jerry
Judy being as white or Steward Steward Tree.
I mean very clearly it's Mahomes is who you need week one in the
Sprint, Deshaun Watson and Jerry Judy is who you need week two in
the Sprint, and Naked Matthew Stafford is who you need in week
17 for all the money Naked Matthew Stafford is.
That that is a. Pick Oh chat chat, said the all
free look squad. We got a Will Shipley take a
peek. What if he goes?
For an ADR and Wix, yeah. And.
Wix. Oh my goodness, we're such
scoundrels. We're just take a peak edge.
I cannot wait to watch these games in Vegas with you guys and
be like, who we gonna start? Who we gonna?
Start. Can we get worse such scoundrels
in the stat chasing intro please?
I already know like one of my moves, like I feel like a
classic Vegas move for me as a player.
I like that's more of a, you know, on the periphery, like a
Will Shipley. Like, we'll catch a pass like
early on and I'll just like start doing like a really hard
victory. Level.
Yeah, fucking massive. He's got the beer in his hand.
He puts his head down. And he just starts.
Coughing, I told you guys I. Told you guys no carries.
I can't wait for Vegas. It was just a usage thing you
guys saw you guys. Saw what he could.
Do you could see saw what he could do.
All right, so we got, we're through round 15.
I'll do a little recap again. We got our one tight end, Mark
Andrews. We got our one quarterback,
Jaden Daniels. We got our 5 running backs now 8
Chan anchoring this along with Jonathan Brooks, Javonte
Williams, Zach Charbonnet, Will Shipley.
And then we are up to what do. We got 7 wide receivers here, CD
Lamb, Zay Flowers, T Higgins, Keenan Allen, Xavier Worthy,
Dontavian Wicks and Jalen Polk. I mean, this is a great team.
That's a great team. That's a very good the Jaden
Daniels, I mean, pushing him and then getting him, it's just it
really made the team. It really tied the team
together. And, and we needed them there
because like on the last we were taking Caleb Williams at, at one
of those picks. We were, we were just screwed
because like, obviously Caleb Williams went at the before our
next turn. Yeah.
I mean, I guess we could have taken another running back there
and then we we double tap Comet and Caleb, but do we do that?
Right. I don't think.
We oh, no, we, we, no, we didn't.
You're right. We couldn't even.
We've had to take Caleb in the 11th, right.
It's the same term. QB at that turn.
Yep. Yeah.
That would have been terrible. No, What?
Well, not QB, QB, tight end, QB. We had.
We could have gone to met Caleb at that very turn.
But we got right. Met Caleb.
Yeah, we got Daniels. Yeah.
I was thinking it was the turn after, but it was that turn,
which I mean, it's just A and getting sharps there was pretty
big. Whether it was sharps or Dowdle,
it was a big running back pick there because by the time we
were backed up like Bucky Irving and Kimani Videl had gone.
Yeah, it was. We were out.
Going so who was the one after Videl?
So going from Sharps to Kendre that that's, that's the, that's
the Cliff. Yeah, or Tyrone Tracy was the
one. But yeah, it was a Cliff.
Yeah, I love that Tyler and Tracy had one good run tonight
and Davis immediately tweeted out like, this guy has 167
career rushing attempts and like, look how good he looks.
It's like he's just like running for like 8 yards.
I actually like, I like four times because he said it and I
was like, I'm looking for something.
And I was like, I actually think that was kind of a bad run
because he like in the thigh and you like, you want to get low
and all this stuff. It's pretty good.
Just so we don't get, you know, totally surprised.
Do you guys, do you guys have any kicker and defensive takes
in your back pocket? No, no, 0% of my mental real
estate allocated towards kicker and defense.
Can I pitch you guys on a take that I was trying to get Pat
peed on and I got zero response? Not if it's someone you want us
to actually draft. I just was saying let's be
mentally prepared that those are positions we will eventually
have to draft tonight. And I hadn't been until now, and
this isn't a specific answer to that, to a specific pick, but
it's this idea that the Week 14 buys, there's six teams because
it's the last week of the the league playoffs.
You can already clinch up a spot in the Sprint, but it's also
after the last waiver run. And typically speaking, you
would pick up a second DST or a second kicker heading into the
Sprint. And so you're all like, you
never actually have to allocate another roster spot to another
kicker or DST or well, particularly kicker is what I
was talking about because the DST thing's more match up based.
But if you have a week 14 kicker, you, you just play them
for 13 weeks and then you pick up that second kicker for the
Sprint and play them in Week 14. If you're in, you know, your
league final and then you have your two kickers for the Sprint
that you're always going to probably have.
And it's like a lack of a headache.
This sort of, yeah. I did have one talk about
kicker. So every time I do a draft, my
my wife asked me, Hey, you didn't take that that
misogynist, that chief's kicker, did you?
I'm like, I'm he's not even eligible to take him.
So tonight I want to tell her. Yeah, I fucking talk him.
Not where I thought that story was going.
Dude, Rico opened up the stream. Yeah, with his having a kid.
I'm taking the misogynist and now he wants to tell his wife to
get back in the kitchen. Jason in the chat said.
What the average Gretsch talking about.
I lost track halfway through. I don't know.
No, no, no, no, no, no SO. So there was silence with that
point, but not because I didn't agree with it or wasn't paying
attention. Gretch, just, like so thoroughly
convinced me. I didn't respond.
You're. Saying we can take a guy and
then never think about kicker or defense ever again.
That's amazing. That's amazing.
I'm very in. There's six teams that have a
buy after the last waiver run. Like that's weird.
That's a weird thing that is happening this year.
Yeah, I'm I I'm fully into it. I don't know that I want to
prioritize it. Yeah, but that's but that's I
want to take a a kicker and defense from one of those teams.
Yeah, yeah. So we have we have three more
non kicker defense picks. Right.
I'm doing a little research over here.
Doing a little research. Old Fantasy mojo.com.
All right, the Eric Gray steam has hit after his big pre season
performance tonight, he goes after Tank Bigsby and Damien
Pierce. I saw that that big he had, he
had one big run where the safety just fell over in front of him
and so he was just gone. I was like, my reaction was like
that safety's just getting cut like this doesn't help.
Eric Gray. Be careful, Draco.
Eric Gray Nation. That's a rapid.
Bunch Stephanie's in the chat she goes that is amazing but you
never think about it anyway. I do that's very true This is
not our problem we're just looking we're looking out for
you, Steph. Yeah, yeah, we're.
We are. I'm trying to.
This is for you. I was trying to do this for you.
It's still good for the overall team, you know?
Yeah. So we are seeing our first
defenses come off the board. Jets defense, Dallas defense,
Jonu Jawan Johnson, Greg Dolstich, the tight ends.
We saw Jordan Mason come off. I think Jordan Mason was a
pretty interesting pick in this range now too, with all the
uncertainty in the San Francisco running backroom.
So suck the the Dallas defense are an awful pick here, right?
I mean, I why? Why are people taking defense at
all in the 16th round? They don't know any more of the
players. Gypsy is really into Eric Gray.
He's the he's the original Eric Gray.
Yeah. I've never seen a slower pre
season run than that. I don't.
I think Amir Abdullah's long speed was better that on that
one pre pre season run in his rookie year.
So I mean Congrats on a guy who could barely outrun a dude
straight up the middle that looked bad.
As far as long touchdown runs, what do you guys?
We lost Draco, which isn't great because he's our clicker.
Are we? Are we comfortable stopping at
at 5 running backs here? Yes, it's managed.
Yeah. I think I am in.
This one. So I think we grabbed.
Theo. Here.
I was just going to say because if if Senate was one of our last
tight end targets and I think Theo's kind of right there with
him now. Yeah.
Yeah, we just checked. I just checked his ADP is 17 O
five over the last seven days in the main event.
So I I think he's a pretty strong pick.
He's he's looking like the tight end one in New York.
The only yeah, yeah, let's go for it.
I don't even have it. I was going to say QB, but the
the guy in the turn has three Q BS already.
Like, yeah, I think we could consider a QB too.
Yeah, I, I let's, let's make the pick because we we don't have
Draco. You you should somebody should
click it in the in this. Oh yeah, is do.
I click yeah, I'll click it on the sticks.
I I just clicked it. I just clicked it.
Thank you. I I am back OK.
You just told your wife that you're about to put your nuts on
the table and. Draft honey, turn on the stream.
I make the trigger. Pitch.
He double taps defense. I love this guy.
Oh my God. That's a Draco.
How many times do you think several double cap QB and TV?
All right, what do we? I would be May here as the Drake
May, Yeah, Drake May. We have Daniel's starting week
1. So we're just, it's like.
Week 14 by right? They do.
They do both have 14. We can figure that out on
waivers. We got 14 weeks to figure it
out. Yeah, I guess my only concern is
more the roster clogger stuff, but as long as we're OK cutting
him if it like drags on and we need that.
Roster spot. I would make a case for like, I
mean, I know he's not stacked, but like 4-4 like Cousins, who's
an ADP value and like you're covering Daniels a little or
Rogers like like what if Daniels isn't good early?
Like May is another pure swing. Like shouldn't we get a vet here
we can find vets on? We didn't get a vet off waiver.
Yeah. You make a picture.
May we got to take May. I was not prepared for a Drake
may pick there, but we got legendary upsides brain trust
here. They're they're they will fight
anyone who is anti Drake. May they will.
They will. You're damn.
Right. I mean, we just got JD Daniels
Plus in round 17, so. The only reason he goes?
To play it is plus there it is. Yeah, no, The thing is.
But he doesn't play in round 17, Yeah.
No, there there are scenarios where it's like, you know,
Daniels gets banged up one of the early weeks and then it's
like we can't carry 3 Q BS and we're not.
Dropping. Yeah, Yeah.
Well, like like I mean this isn't likely, but Justin Fields
like first few starts were all really poor.
Like some Q BS could just like what if he just has some really
poor starts? We don't want to what if he just
like sucks week one? We don't want to start on week
two. It'd be nice to have Kirk
Cousins like 30 picks behind ADP.
But no, we'll just have Drake make we'll have Jacoby
Brissettes back up. That'll be great.
I mean, Jacoby Percent and Drake May played the exact same amount
of series in the preseason game, so I.
Think. Think there may still be paths
to Drake May starting earlier than people think which was the
which was the case. I made on our like Minnie said
when we took him of like as long as we're not like anchored to
like we're holding him for 14 weeks, like through hell and
high water and he's not on the field where it's like maybe we
we bink it and you know, Jared Mayo pulls his head out of his
ass and decides he wants to start Drake May week one.
That would be an awesome, awesome outcome, but just making
sure we're not just, like, locked into him, yeah.
I mean. I'm taking it for the bink
because that's like that is a correlated outcome with, oh,
this guy was good enough to force his way onto the field
right away. That's that's probably pretty
good. And then if he doesn't force his
way onto the field right away, then you can feel a little more
comfortable that you might not be accessing at least not right
away. The the highest ceiling outcomes
that we think are there for I. Would always I'm.
Excited to cut him. I'm really excited to cut him.
That's a good point. I would say, like, you know, in
the first main event that we did, we had Mahomes.
And if we're not seeing May out there and he's, you know, it's
like Week 3 and there's still no May on that team.
Yeah, like, let's turn him for a running back.
Maybe we've already turned him for a running back on this team.
We have Jayden Daniels. It's an upside swing.
He's going to have his growing pains.
I don't mind keeping May a little longer.
I'm not saying hold them all season, but you know, you let
the thesis play out. And to me, the thesis is he
starts around week five and then he's then we see what he's got,
but we also like to take. Five week roster clock.
Yeah, I mean, we might need to turn them before then.
Yeah, my point depends on what. If Daniels has a really poor
passing game in week one and takes like 7 sacks, then we're
probably cutting May for a veteran.
And the good news is, no, no one is taking more quarterbacks.
Like there's going to be a veteran that that we will not
run into a situation where we can't get a veteran here.
Yeah, no, I mean, Gardner Minshew is going to be a great
week to start when we could add Kirk Cousins.
I mean, we need 123-4567. Eight if you don't take some.
Good week to start, right? Yeah, we got Jones will probably
be. Available we need 8.
More quarterbacks to go off the board before we're in trouble.
The only thing that I agree with Ben on a little bit is the.
Facts of logic we well. Ben here, I'll side with you.
I we might also be underselling getting to take a peek at Kirk
Cousins and Aaron Rodgers because they are both in
completely new environments. We don't know, like what those
situations are gonna look like. We're all jacked about the
Falcons. What if they deliver on that
right off the rip? Like that stuff is like, oh you
know you can take a peek at that too and be like holy cow that's
a windfall. They should have been going 5
rounds earlier. Yeah.
I don't know, going on in Atlanta, I guess I'm, I guess I
would be, I would be surprised if I'm regretting like man, if
we'd only take Kirk Cousins, you know, like it's it.
I suppose it's it's possible if Daniels is a bust and we're just
like he would have been a really solid starter for us all year.
But you're kind of to me when you take May, you're you're
adding to the upside play. He's it's additional upside that
you're adding to the roster where Cousins is really covering
you if Daniels is a bus. Well.
Yeah. I mean, Cousins, Rogers, I had
Gino in the queue as well. Daniel Jones.
You don't think any of those guys are?
I mean, I think they're just they're just all probably still
there. Yeah, they're just all probably
similar enough that the ones that will be remaining on the
waiver wire are are fine, right. Like we don't have what is what
is Drake May's that's the yeah, I mean again, this goes back to
the Polk thing. Like the market has them and the
look ahead lines has the lowest scoring offense in the NFLI.
Do think there's a little bit of the like Stroud pattern matching
from last year. We elevated entire expected bad
offense, but the patriots are probably not that good.
When Herbert was good as a rookie, he had like a Keenan
Allen, right? Like, I mean, you have to get a
lot of things right for this team to suddenly be really good.
They're telling you constantly they want to run the ball.
They went and hired. They're not playing in a points
per win total league. We don't need this team to be
really good. We need Drake.
They went and hired. They went and hired an offensive
coordinator. They got fired for running the
ball because they want to be more pass heavy in for the
Browns, Alex Van Pelt. And now he's he's with the
Patriots and the Patriots are telling Gerard Mayo is telling
you everyone that they they're going to be that's their
identity. They want to run the ball.
There's only so many times you can run the ball though down 20.
That's I agree with that. But the the the probabilistic
stuff, right, like the the ranges for this to really pay
off to me. I haven't seen it as clearly as
you guys. It's just the way that I would
put it. I see 8 rushing yards better
passing Blake Bortles as yeah, it's really it's a quarterback
archetype bet Ben it's this guy does all the things that score
fantasy points outside of being a true dual threat.
Yeah. If you go back, everything
you're looking for other than being like a Lamar Jackson type,
like go back and watch the Josh Allen college highlights and
then go watch the team A college highlights side by side and and
put a little piece of tape over the screen that you move around
over their name. And.
Yeah, Josh, Josh Allen is a Unicorn for sure.
The Bortles thing, it was another one that that I think
Pat and I talked about at one point where I was like that they
had a great defense when portals came in and so they get the ball
back for him a lot. He made mistakes and then he got
more possessions. The Patriots are expected to be
bad and so the win loss thing matters in that regard to your
defense is bad too and can't get off the field.
But the Jags went to the AFC title game with with Bortles.
They were so good defensively. That helps your ability.
I think the Patriots defense actually supposed to be pretty
decent, isn't it? Are they going to be that good?
Oh, they're going to be great, but I think they don't have a
bad defense as far as I know. I mean they smoked the Panthers
fourth team tonight. It was sack city baby.
Carson Wentz is another guy you know, you don't at the Allen
stuff. It's hard to take seriously
because it's you know, it's fucking Allen.
But like, as a prospect, Alan wasn't gonna turn into Alan most
of the time. But Carson Wentz, to be another
guy where you're like, this dude ultimately sucked, but he did
some fun stuff before it all came apart.
That's fair and. I mean, Stroud is another good
one where it's like even though like he can't be, you can't have
strata every year, but when guys hit, they hit in unique ways.
It's sort of the point like whence became whence and and
Stroud became Stroud and Bortles became Bortles and like Meg
could just be a different dude then we're but then I'm can even
conceptualize. Sorry, Pete, what were you going
to? Say no.
I was just going to say to me, the whole everything that you
guys are talking about to me hinges on how much is Drake may
rushing because Ben's point, like I just don't know if the
offense is going to allow him to do what Cousins is going to be
able to do in Atlanta, but he's on the ground then then you can
get there. Oh do.
We does anybody have any? We're on the clock.
I mean, if we're, if we're super, if we're super concerned
about quarterback, we can take. No, no.
We're done taking quarterbacks at this.
Point we're out there, it's like a a running back, maybe flyer.
Are there any? I-1 name I like in you.
I would love to take a peek at Troy Franklin and just see how.
Yes, yes, yes. Yes, that's a pick.
That's a pick. Somebody threw a name out.
Thank God. Well.
Someone put it in the queue and I was like, I I would really
like to just see how this preseason plays out for the
Broncos. You're not.
You're not worried about Veilay eating Troy Franklin?
'S life. Every time I see Dailay I keep
thinking it's Vilas Jones for some reason.
Like a nickname for him. Lauby went in the 15th round.
He did shit. I put some kickers in the queue.
Yeah, let's do some fucking kickers.
Yeah, Clamp. These these guys don't have week
14 by so wait should we go defense before kicker?
I don't know why I asked that I don't have a.
Reason the only. Kicker.
Week 14 by Is Matt Gay for Indy? I don't.
Do we want that? I'm not really worried about
Week 14 buys for kicker and defense.
They're very unlikely they're on our roster.
We aren't churning by then. I I I like.
It's fair thing ourselves guys at this.
Moment. Then the draft would come.
I did warn you that we would have to pick a kicker in a
defense. You did warn us.
I think you just take one of them.
Either of the options. Yep.
I think you take a kicker or a. Defense table OK, yeah, you guys
you gotta. Go take take butt Kurt.
Oh, he's already coming back. Houston defense has a Week 14
by. Fucking Evan McPherson.
What? The God damn it Henry Muto's in
the chat. Really upset that we didn't take
Jake Elliott free. Take that on our first team,
didn't we? Yeah, probably.
The the the reason I didn't put
Elliott in the queue was because the the hurt sneak stuff takes
away a lot of field goals. Also the altitude in Brazil.
I'm trying to cook up a take here about why J Kelly.
Yes, yeah. It's an El Nino year and his
views just aren't problematic enough for Draco to.
Tell his wife about. I've heard the way that that.
Stadium is constructed is it's really apartment for like wind
gusts like coming through it, there's lots of wind.
Gusts the stadium's actually. Yeah.
All right, so I'm gonna I'm gonna give you guys another a
little preview of what's gonna happen in about 3 1/2 minutes.
We're gonna have to pick a defense.
So it'd be great to start thinking about that.
Well, Philly defense, we can take a peek.
OK, it's good with the chaos. That that stadium kind of
facilitates. It does.
Hold on for chaos, Houston. We don't have to think about it
again forever, which is nice. There you go.
Although we'll probably play matchups and think about it all
the time, yeah. We got it right away.
Think about it immediately. So that's let's look at week 1
matchups like in case we can't get a take a peek, we'll have
this like really great matchup. Yeah, a better idea before.
We look at these, we won a target.
Let's figure out who's playing the Patriots, because I heard
that they're going to score the fewest.
Bad points. The Bengals.
Honestly, Ben, I love that because I don't think that may
wins the job in the in the offseason.
And so I want for the Patriots early schedule is is a try 7
interceptions. Maybe 8?
Yeah. All right, I'll give you some
fun ones. Yeah, Bengals at home versus the
Patriots. Ship it.
You got the Giants at home versus the Vikings.
If we get some Darnold there, I don't know how the Giants
defense is projected to be. I think the the offense you want
to target with your defense this year is going to be the Saints
with just zero offensive line. So Panthers are also fun for
Week 1. OK, Panthers in New Orleans, all
right. Seahawks against Bo Knicks's
first career start on the road. It's kind of interesting.
The thing with the thing with defenses here, we really do want
pass attempts against. So.
We want to be thinking about which teams will throw against
them. So the Vikings are not right.
We're we're they're kind. Of yeah.
That's actually a perfect one. The Vikings are probably like a
perfect team. Yeah, yeah.
On the road. Yeah, yeah, Sam Darnold, Yeah,
that dude loves to throw picks. And then they play the
Commanders in week two, who's our quarterback, but also might
throw picks. Yeah, All right.
I I meant to play this, but we were literally.
Just. Play it man, it's such a good
clip, I want to see it. Yeah, and by kicker chasing, it
was just the most ambivalent. Kicker chasing our.
Tails chasing of kickers we have ever done kicker chasing.
It's the show where we chase the best kickers, the kickers that
help you win championships, the biggest legs, the breaking news.
It's everything you've come to love and know.
The time is now for kicker chase.
Let's get some fucking kickers. Hey honey, I just fucking
drafted Butker. The funniest part of that clip
to me is when the the don't draft this guy sign goes up over
his face for like a while and then it goes.
Not. In unison with it at all.
Back in the days when I used to edit the ship chasing.
That's a fantastic clip. All right, we're about to enter
the 20th round. Everyone's painting the board
blue with their defenses. They don't know about the the
New York Giants. They don't know about positives
against versus the New York Giants in Week 1.
What about the Falcons as well? I know they they won't get the
power play and the. Steelers home versus Steelers.
Well, that could be good, Yeah. I mean, they're going to throw a
lot, but there might be some sacks.
Yeah, there could be some sacks. Turnovers.
Yeah, also they do have the easiest schedule in the league,
as Gretch reminded me this morning.
You know, that's that is interesting.
I'm trying to see if there's anyone else.
Saints twice and and Panthers twice is pretty nice.
For the Falcons. Did Miami go?
They get the Jags. The Jags will throw and Lawrence
Lakes interceptions. Yeah, Miami will play fast
enough and score super quick and then yeah, they'll play the
Falcons. First six weeks are pretty nice.
You get Steelers, the Eagles, Chiefs is a little tougher, but
you'll get past volume at least from the Chiefs.
Then you get Saints, Bucks, Panthers.
Pitch for the Dolphins would be Jags.
Then you get the Bills, who will throw the Seahawks, who probably
should throw the Titans, who are going to throw a lot more this
year. And then you get the Patriots in
Week 5, Drake May's first start, and he's going to blow it.
He's going to blow it All is set up for Miami Dolphins DST week
five. Yeah, that was all a bit to get
to that one. But I also do think it's a good
pick. I don't have an opinion.
I think I like the Giants. Let's.
Shake some fucking defenses, Giants makes a lot of sense.
Good to have, good to have a backup in in the Dolphins, but I
like the Giants, too. Just to let you guys know, so
we're going to be doing another one of these next Thursday.
We're going to be doing every Thursday for the next three
weeks. Next week is with Davis.
That'll be at 7:00 PM Eastern. I did see Davis was trying to
stream head to head against us tonight on a redacted platform.
And then the following week, Sean Siegel will be drafting
with him at at 7:00 PM Eastern. And then we'll be with Crack
Rock the week after that at 7:00.
PM man. You think he'll come out to
Vegas this year? I yeah, I think he say he'll say
he will. He'll say.
Yeah. And then we're going to sneak in
a Tuesday before we go out to Vegas.
We're going to do a 5K big payback with Leone that we're
streaming as well. So we're going to have lots of
high stakes drafts around here. So subscribe.
And then of course, we do have Monday's ADP chasing that's
going to keep rolling. I believe Sherman is out this
Monday. Gretch, have you committed to
filling in for him on Monday or no?
On this Monday, yeah. I can't remember if I committed
to that or not. I I know you.
I don't think you committed to it that we can rule out.
The Giants. I'll have to think through it.
I think I might have scheduled something on Monday, honestly,
in truth. But I'll try to.
I'll try to. I'll try to be there for sure.
Figure it out. But we do need to figure out a
defense here as well. Miami.
Yeah, Miami.
We get the the correlation with Devonna Chan in Miami.
Incredible. There you go.
Oh, it's going to be beautiful. There it is.
Let's go.
Let's go look at this team here, guys.
I'll give it the rundown, and then we'll get your thoughts.
We got Jayden Daniels and Drake May as our quarterbacks here.
We got our 5 running backroom. I'll zoom in here for us.
Devon H and Jonathan Brooks, Devonte Williams, Zach
Charbonnet, Will Shipley got our wide receiver room that I
absolutely love. CD Lambs, Zay Flowers, T
Higgins, Keenan Allen, Xavier Worthy, Dontavian Wicks, Jalen
Polk and Troy Franklin got our three tight ends.
Mark Andrews, Noah Fan, Theo Johnson.
We chased some fucking kickers with Ian McPherson and we got
the Miami team defense. Let's go.
You first sack. How do you feel how this team
shook out? I'm pretty happy with it.
We didn't take Jerry Judy, so this was a huge win in my book.
Yeah, lots of, lots of guys have drafted, lots of love it.
Draco, you feel good. Yeah, Yeah, this, this feels
like a really good team. And we obviously we only went a
Chan running back early and but then we got some really high
upside picks, I think. And Brooks, Javante and Javante
will help us carry the the Brooks sort of injuries and
we'll get something from sharps, obviously really strong receiver
room. And then I think you guys
touched on this, but starting Andrew's, then waiting a long
time and then hitting it back with no fans and Theo Johnson,
that feels like that feels really strong.
I'm a bit worried about how long these guys want to hold Drake
May but. Yeah, well, I'm sure we'll have.
That's a fair worry, I mean. Honestly.
You know, I do kind of regret the Drake May pick.
We could have had Kirk Cousins who didn't get.
Drafted. Baker Mayfield who didn't get
drafted, so it's a real shame to take an upside swing instead of
just drafted a guy who wouldn't have got drafted anyway.
I do Nobody, NOBODY put Baker Mayfield to the queue.
Nobody wants that fucking guy. What I like about this team,
right? Every single position has an
upside swing at least, if not more, and then some fun stuff
going on behind it to help fill it in like the Mark Andrews, you
know, that gives us like a upside like the TE one kind of
upside swing. And then we have Noah Phant,
Theo Johnson, underpriced backup depth there.
I mean those guys, as I talked about on you know, with with no
offense related to underdog, like he's just going way too
cheap here. Theo Johnson I think will end up
going a lot higher. He's like very much going to be
a riser on FFPCI. Think so.
He was a really, really nice pick to get this late.
I love the way we backfield wide receiver with the upside swings
there, couple rookies and Dantavian Wicks and then Xavier
Worthy's, you know, a premium upside swing.
Devon A Chan's like just such a high upside anchor, Jonathan
Brooks. So like very clear to see how he
could be one of the guys you need down the stretch.
Love the other three guys too. And then yeah, Drake, Manny,
Jayden Daniels is a very fun quarterback room.
We might end up starting Kirk Cousins, who we get off waivers,
but it's a it's a fun way to draft it.
Gretch. I think these guys put it really
well. This is a fun team.
Yeah. I mean, we're we're shifting
over to the redraft mindset. It's definitely a different type
of of build. We were talking through some of
the thoughts as they relate to, you know, some of the other
picks we've been making all offseason and stuff like that.
But as far as like where we, we didn't have a team before we
started, when we started, where we ended, I don't know.
I love the team. I think it came together really
well. I've voiced some comments about
some of the picks, but I really like the team overall for sure.
I'm really in. Yeah, I think it's a really good
structure. I also love we kind of talk
about it a lot where if you always do the kind of like zero
RB thing, like if you don't take a Chan, you're almost always
taking running backs where we took like Wicks and Pulk.
And I like being able to play some of those two V twos.
Like I want to be able to take shots on some guys like Wicks
and Pulk and and have not just completely miss out on a tier A
player just because you're always building the same
structurally. And so taking advantage of that
a Chan pick where there are going to be a lot of running
back selections, we're going to love in our other main event
draft slots, you know, and so I think this was a fun opportunity
to take advantage of that. And then I just love that
running back, tight end, 2-3 turn to just kind of open up
everything else because positionally we were never, we
were sweating the quarterback thing a little bit.
But like when you have that running back tight in an elite
wide receiver, it's just like the the rest of the draft is
your oyster. Yeah, and the thing I like about
this structure with with the HN pick early on is it's not like
you miss out on this tier of running backs.
It's just that you're not like only living in that tier.
So you're still getting your your pit.
If you, if you draft a few teams like this, you're going to end
up with a smattering of that of those running backs, but you're
also going to have some of the the wide receivers in that range
because you don't have to like just put the blinders on a draft
running back. Yep.
All right, dudes sacrilegious. You got anything cooking up at
Leg Up? I mean, I also should mention
these guys, we call them the stat chasing crew.
They'll be doing stat chasing. We'll figure out the exact
schedule again, but just awesome in season context early in the
week to get you ready for your daily draft, your DFS contest,
obviously waivers, everything. We're super excited to have you
guys back again this year. Anything else on that front for
you? Sacrilegious.
We're just hard at work over at Leg Up trying to get the
sidekick ready for DraftKings, which we're hoping should be any
day now, so keep your eyes peeled for that.
We'll be announcing that in the Discord because it's going to go
to our beta server first. But yeah, that's the thing I am
I'm most excited about here. That and getting to finish up
reading Pat's article series that he's got on the running
Back Oasis. That is going to be capped off
with the article from Daniel Rhetz.
Awesome. What about you guys, Drico?
Anything else are are we going to get an article?
We're going to get a Rotaviz article from you.
I think I. Put it off a long time, haven't
I don't. Don't put it off another month,
bud. I've got to get back in the lab.
I will. I will.
I'll. I'll be back in the lab this
weekend. September 13th How to?
Win the. Best draft strategies.
In your direction. Yeah, there you go.
Gretch, Pat, what do you guys got?
I just wrote a big home league strategy guide, draft strategy
guide over for the Subsac subscribers Ben gretchsubsac.com
stealing signals newsletter. You guys know the drill.
But yeah, it was the big it was it's a long draft strategy
guide. I wrote it focus more on home
leagues because I always get the question about like when you're
in these leagues that there's not as much pressure to get the
wide receiver depth and there's not as many, but there's more
running backs going early. You know, where do you take your
detours? How do you take your detours?
Let's talk through where I would do all that stuff.
I think some of it's still obviously applicable to to the
higher stakes stuff as well the the, the the tougher leagues,
but long, long strategy rich piece that came out like maybe
an hour before we started the stream.
So go check that out. Awesome.
Check that out on stealing signals.
Kat did. Did I get you?
You, you got everything there. Yeah, I'll set up the four part
running back piece that I had just finished up today.
Daniel Razz. As Zach mentioned, we'll have an
article out tomorrow on whether these running backs and
backgrounds, 7th and 10, so running back Oasis or running
back Mirage, how to attack drafts this year.
Stephanie Miller has an article coming out next week on Dynasty
Auctions. Yeah.
And then as Zach mentioned, hop in the Discord, the leg of
Discord if you're a subscriber, subscriber because we've got the
DraftKings baby launch coming out soon.
And if you're curious about what that looks like, I did a
legendary Sickos today with their climb for me, drafted A555
with the dev version of that draftking school.
But again, we're hoping we can get out like the next day or so
on data. So also we have custom ranks
with Sidekick on beta. So if you're, if you're looking
to check that out, hop in the Discord as well information
there. And that will be launched on the
normal sidekick pretty soon as well.
So look for an announcement on that.
Awesome. And then the one thing I would
like to plug, I have a new video out on the Deposit Kingdom.
I was working with Blair Andrews over at Rodovis had an awesome
series about where we find wide receiver breakouts and
piggybacked off of that to create a a top nine countdown
list of breakouts. And he has some awesome research
about the year 2 bucket and a specific cohort of rookies that
tend to break out at much higher rates than any other cohort of
players. We drafted two of them tonight.
That is the the spoiler alert there.
But if you're looking for some breakout wide receivers, I run
through that list and then also apply it to kind of both best
ball and manage mindset. So check that out on the deposit
Kingdom. Like I said, the crew will be
back for. Is that out now or is that
coming up? That's out.
Yep, that's out. Yep, a little Dontavian Wix
action there, so everyone out it's.
The first one that came to. Mind, I don't know who the other
one is but. Yeah.
All right, guys, we're going to power this down.
We'll see Monday, ADP chasing next week, Thursday with our
short King Davis Matic for Draco for Sacrilegious for Gretch, for
Pat, for Nick and the Hopper for the chat.
We'll see you guys next time.