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Today is your 19th. 
We have not one, but two former 

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NFL superstars in DeAndre 
Hopkins and Dalvin cook as NFL 

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free agents, ready to destroy 
the fantasy value of incumbent 

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wide receivers running backs 
across. 

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Today, we'll break it all down 
and more. 

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This is ATP. 
Chasing, let's go. 

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Pat prior homos. 
Handjob. 

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Fix your sight. 
Your bar. 

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Welcome everybody to another 
edition of ATP chasing. 

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We're joined today by my former 
co-host Conrad Driscoll. 

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Oh, I might be. 
Yeah, like, this scene for you. 

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Connor. 
That's a former as in the show, 

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is, you know, taking, a 
temporary Hiatus, but did he ask

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you about this pot? 
Yeah, no, I recommended to do it

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this time, way, way up, but it's
coming above from above that. 

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Even. 
Yeah, what's he doing? 

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All right. 
What a start. 

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We're here. 
We got a bunch of old guys who 

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are still inexplicably being 
drafted. 

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High feels, I mean at this point
with with the rumors that 

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DeAndre Hopkins is not being 
allowed to leave the greater 

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Massachusetts area without a 
contract. 

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He just feels like spicy 
expensive, Juju Smith sister to 

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me at at wide receiver, 19, a 
BP. 

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It's interesting because I've 
seen some people be in on it. 

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I think Denny Carter was saying 
he was in on him Jake. 

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Jacob did like a whole post 
Jacob was on him. 

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He why explaining why being a 
patriot is that he's like much 

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worse than Prime nuke? 
They that I don't think that he 

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got cut, my evidence would be 
then he got to cut. 

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That is a relevant data point. 
It's a good. 

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Just it just I got we do this 
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DeAndre Swift to wear when a 
team decides. 

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Your services are no longer 
needed, we come up with reasons 

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why another team would want your
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is, if it's worth your life and 
more exposure up, hey, a team 

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team wanted him and I haven't 
been taking him. 

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I have honestly have not been. 
It's gone way down. 

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He actually has gotten 
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More expensive as people 
realize, they don't want to 

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click on Allen Lazard or Jamison
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happening to me, I started 
taking a more because of that 

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that's that's what it was. 
A structural thing why I always 

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take him to begin with but Where
I'm at on both Hopkins. 

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And Alvin is that if those are 
the guys that like if you, you 

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send me my year-end Summary of 
why I didn't win the stupid 3.5 

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million dollars, and it was 
because I lost because the 

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people who were on Hopkins and 
cookware, right? 

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I accept that as a reason why I 
didn't win, you know, the record

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of saying, oh, hey, we went into
this season expecting him to 

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play for us but then apparently 
he doesn't want to And the but 

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shouldn't there. 
Be a team willing to give up a 

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third round pick for his 
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And, and it's even more 
worrying. 

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I don't think, you know, maybe 
that's maybe that's fair. 

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Maybe like the Derek Carr 
situation, right? 

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Like obviously Traders should 
have been able to get in traffic

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for Derek Harper. 
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they're gonna cut him than a 
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to do it. 
So it could be, it could be 

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along those lines. 
Is this the only why would I 

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create say a contractor who 
supports that? 

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And it just makes sense. 
Yeah I mean you can give I think

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to like the fair to Hopkins. 
If you look at his stats from 

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last year, he still was flashing
like top 12 wide receiver status

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like 26% targets for about Ron. 
That was eight months wide 

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receivers with over 200 routes 
2.0 yards per route Ron. 

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That's a top-20 number 13. 
Have PPR points for game again, 

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top top ten number there. 
So what he was doing last year 

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still, I think justifies him at 
that age. 

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DP. 
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though of, you know, whatever 
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know, potentially on the 
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offense, you know, potentially 
being the water Seaver to on a 

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team, like the Browns or maybe 
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our bills. 
I think I'm more in on him than 

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you are Davis. 
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clicking in when he falls a 
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reached Browns, the Browns he 
would be I would be in on There.

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Because I think he probably just
the routes, he runs he's going 

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to be like a really good volume,
roll with Watson and he would 

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obviously kill Elijah more dead.
I mean, Elijah more would be 

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like under applicable. 
If Hopkins was on the team. 

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Yeah. 
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be the favorite to be the wide 
receiver want. 

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And I think this him reuniting 
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all right Cooper. 
We weren't even interested in 

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Lauren Cooper last year. 
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surprisingly good year but yeah,
I think he'd probably work ahead

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of Cooper, be 1A 1B thing 
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that's I think that's right. 
I mean the other concerning 

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thing is it's June 19. 
The season starts in 80 Days, 

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he's had all these free agent 
visits. 

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We've heard nothing about the 
bills with the Chiefs. 

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The teams that should most be 
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have heard about the bills, 
which is that they're unlikely 

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because the cap reason. 
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bills. 
I don't think for a fantasy, 

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what do we want better? 
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probably dealing with these this
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the conversation him and his 
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Having do we sign a one-year 
prove it deal with a good team? 

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Do we care about winning a 
championship or do we want to 

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get all of our money? 
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Do is what's more important? 
You know, being in a winning 

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situation for getting the money 
because the teams that can give 

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them the money, are not winning 
situations, right? 

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Like the fact that he was 
willing to take a fucking free, 

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agent meeting with the Tennessee
Titans where, I mean, best case.

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What do they win? 
Like 89 games. 

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Maybe like it. 
It's that is a bad football 

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team. 
And him taking meetings with 

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them seems to me that it would 
be more about the money. 

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And those are going to be 
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stuff is not going to favor him.
I'm the Patriots. 

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One's pretty good fit in terms 
of if they're willing to pay him

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a little bit more, I don't know 
exactly what's on the table, but

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that's how can be like a winning
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Obviously, in the sense of like,
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Chiefs would be, but with 
Hopkins there and an offensive 

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coordinator, they do strike me 
as the type of team that Would 

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like be way more frisky an 
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thought, you know, in January, 
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I think as well. 
And that, like, if Hopkins is 

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good, if Hopkins is like, like 
he dominated even in terrible 

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offense of situations already. 
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best Texans yours with like 
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of yeah. 
Amber like He should have just 

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stayed and played with Clayton 
tune then if it's about money 

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just stay at just stay in 
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targets. 
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there is some risk with the age.
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performance decline but we're 
just talking about the show that

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we're all generally the same age
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with athletes but I've 
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Than I did when I was younger. 
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Sunday and I'm spent that was 
it. 

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It's not that means anything. 
But you do get a fire suit and 

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to get injured more likely to be
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The over again is 31. 
I would be more concerned if he 

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was showing a decline. 
In fact in 2021, he did kind of 

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decline a little bit yards per 
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Six from 2.25 year before he was
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more downfield and wasn't 
drawing targets at all that high

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of a rate. 
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concerning that maybe you might.
Do you like, do you like came 

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back though? 
That's the same back thing is 

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that? 
Yeah, yeah, there's that other 

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element of the PD suspension and
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that factor into whatever he had
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these are about recovery. 
It's about getting your body. 

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Speaking of the Aging stuff it's
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percent recovery to 85 percent 
recovery like literally like 

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getting oxygen back to your 
muscles faster because your 

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body's ability to do that 
wonder, you're dangerous. 

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Yes, it'll be a great Point. 
That's true. 

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Yeah. 
So to that, I mean to the 

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promise of the show with ATP 
chasing. 

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Is there a landing spot that 
tanks like of the popular 

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Landing spots? 
The ones hiding out? 

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Since X is the one that would 
tank if you guys. 

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But where would he land? 
What was a TPP? 

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He'd go. 
Where he'd go where God wanted 

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Pittman go? 
I think that's right. 

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But that's still not that far 
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also think about what it would 
do to Burke's Burke's then would

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become a guy. 
We could take all the time 

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because we could just bet 
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Burke's because Birds would get 
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door like James and Williams 
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I think I think you'd be where 
Bateman is Yeah, since they were

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babies Bateman, see ya around 
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I don't know. 
I think that's the one, like, of

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all the other ones that have 
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Even the Texans, right? 
I think the Texans is kind of 

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similar to the Patriots where we
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good, but he could just 
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They're like, I don't think he 
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there. 
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I think he rises the Bills and 
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though those are probably less 
likely at this point. 

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So, I don't I have no money. 
The Chiefs have no money to give

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any one they are. 
So they are so cameras out. 

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I'm assuming Patriots at this 
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to late fourth. 
I've been taking him. 

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Yeah, you know, you also do 
correlate them with the bills, 

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so if there's that 1% chance, he
does sound with the bills, you 

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have them like easily stacked. 
It's all part of the same game 

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stack. 
So this this leads a lot of 

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credence to our Theory, by the 
way that that like betting on 

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the Patriots have An offensive 
coordinator is one of the only 

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edges right now and best ball is
like legit like one because 

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obviously having Hopkins instead
of JuJu or Kendrick born is good

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for you. 
But then to just that they're 

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wanting to add talented players 
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Yes like is lending Credence to 
the theory that they'd like to 

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score some points. 
It'd be a good signal overall 

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for sure. 
I mean Court quarterback is so 

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quarterback is so hard to 
acquire ceiling at like after 

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Anthony Richardson goes that 
getting back Jones as your 

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second quarterback on some of 
these teams and having him be 

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the quarterback 17 is like 
actually what did masses here. 

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It's gonna mad points here. 
Normally doesn't matter just 

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because liked it when the other 
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priced like getting QB 17 from 
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But Now what the price is like 
it matters so much more. 

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Yeah with with the three best 
quarterbacks being gone by pick 

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30, being able to get being able
to get like actual quarterback 

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points in the last round is 
going to be like fairly massive,

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I think. 
Yeah. 

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And he has job security. 
You know maybe not like true, 

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true job security. 
Like if he absolutely sucks 

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though bench him. 
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know it's at all close to what 
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look like with an offense 
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Mater plus Hopkins. 
If he's pretty say yeah, the 

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reports for makris a P2 or 
pretty favorable. 

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For one of those are worth this 
point in the season. 

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The beat reporters are saying, 
Mac is outperforming zappy, 

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pretty pretty easily and it 
doesn't seem like a quarterback 

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competition or anything along 
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Like it's a pretty clear lead 
for Mac. 

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So anyways, I'll add the rest. 
Well, I guess Hawkins isn't a 

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riser hugest topical 
conversation for today. 

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I think another guy looking at 
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Eek A guy who I think is an 
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DeAndre Hopkins. 
For a lot of reasons is Keenan 

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Allen who is up for the second 
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You know, obviously not the same
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similar age and similar to 
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on a per game basis last year. 
When he played, I won't go 

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through all the numbers but 
similar to Hopkins, you look at,

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you know, yards for outrun 
targets throughout Ron receiving

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grade, you know, Point fantasy 
points per game. 

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He didn't Alan is still on that 
sort of top 12 bubble. 

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Well, as a wide receiver. 
So Connor, we've talked about 

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Keenan, Allen a lot. 
I think on the show this office 

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and curious if you're concerned 
with his age, or if you think 

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he's fairly valued at the end of
the third round. 

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Now And I think that's about, 
right? 

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I think a age, actually does 
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still need them to be doing the 
same thing in week, 17. 

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And but he it's like you said, 
he has been performing. 

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And then, the other thing about 
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the utter receiving options 
either have have Huge question 

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marks or it's the rookie and and
so that that does give them like

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a good few out swear. 
If other players aren't 

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performing than he has to step 
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And that's probably not 
groundbreaking and it's just the

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thing with Kenan is that he's 
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you're like, yeah, it's fine. 
Like I just got Keenan Allen 

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like it, he makes sense for team
building. 

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Ting because he goes so close to
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ordered way that it's easy to 
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of the guys that the room is 
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guys that you can have 
legitimate. 

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Like it's just really not going 
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way of Christian Watson like 
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scores are wider. 
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Me is more of a 45 turn pick 
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like I'm still taking him some. 
Be sure does have such a high 

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But it's it's an uncomfortable 
price but look at all these guys

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around him have such massive 
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We just talked about Judy. 
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as we thought he was, and the 
offense could stink. 

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London, we know is good, but I 
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Yeah, I take London to, but, but
I don't feel great about taking 

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Ritter. 
So a lot of the times I'm like, 

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I'll take. 
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like, I'll take Herbert Mike 
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I mean, I just greatly prefer 
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Williams that the only honestly 
the only Guy in this range that 

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I have no questions about his 
McLaren like that, that for like

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20 picks in a row. 
It's like, yeah, McLaren, he's 

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going to get people on stuff. 
I'll sometimes take what we'll 

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talk about. 
Brandon are you here? 

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I at this point in the in the 
fourth round I'm taking guys 

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based on what I think I'm going 
to be able to do in the 

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following round. 
So like sometimes I'll take 

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Drake London because I'm like 
maybe I can get a falling fields

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and then I'll end up back door, 
stack him? 

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Sometimes I take DJ more because
I pretty confident Fields will 

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come back around and I'll be 
able to get him in the fifth. 

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I will take McLaren sometimes 
because I don't think I have 

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much of a chance at those guys, 
but I might have a good chance 

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of bringing my uke and get that 
little mini correlation. 

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I'll take, I'll take Mike 
Williams Because I'm like, I 

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could use a quarterback here. 
I'll get Herbert when he comes 

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back. 
So, I would really like, I'm 

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kind of thinking through the 
team building stuff, if they get

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a value on Christian Watson or 
nuke, I'll grab them. 

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But Keenan at the things most 
interesting about Kenan here is 

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that I think this is the final 
recovery of his ATP from the cut

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rumors that started, you know, 
back in February or whatever. 

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Like had that not happened. 
I think he might have been going

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here the whole time, which it's 
sort of. 

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Once I saw this, I was like, I 
should have been higher on them 

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throughout, like I was taking a 
fair amount of Keenan, I think 

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this whole draft season but it 
is one of the Things were it 

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seems silly that you know the 
rumor that he might be cut was 

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holding his ATP back still, but 
I think it probably was to a 

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degree because you knew like 
because he fell on the 3/4 turn.

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You could feel like he'll be 
there when I come back around. 

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Why would I take him in the 
third, I can get Keenan in the 

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fourth, and there's that feeling
that persists until it finally 

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breaks. 
And now once, you know, you have

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to take in in the third like 
yeah, I like Keenan more than 

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Amari Cooper, you know? 
Yeah. 

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Right. 
There's a lot of paper 

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tiebreakers in favor of Canaan 
over Ameri. 

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Yeah. 
But I'm always been ahead of him

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like the whole time until 
recently and if he if he's does 

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like if he just doesn't i-i'm 
starting to Trend this way that 

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I actually think Herbert like 
the Chargers could lead the NFL 

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in points scored. 
You know, they were so obviously

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held back by their play-calling 
and their play design that it 

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just feels as if K. 
Well, I mean Kelly, And more was

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like unlocking, Noah Brown and 
Dalton Schultz. 

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Like like, you know what I mean?
Like if Quint, like let's say, 

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Quentin Johnston is good, right?
Let's say he comes in 

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understands the Playbook, you 
know, it is not having trouble 

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with some of these things that 
maybe the film Watchers think he

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might have trouble with and they
find some sort of reasonable 

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complementary back to Austin 
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That is not as he go Elliot and 
that guys getting it done on the

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ground and it's like a nonzero 
as a pass catcher. 

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So hecklers just like fresh and 
get it like it could set up as 

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the Cowboys but with like really
good players at all those 

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positions instead of Noah Brown 
and and you know, Michael Gallup

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who like is struggling to walk. 
Yeah, I take a lot of Herbert 

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because you get that that price 
that's just you know much better

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than certainly, the quarterback 
prices were earlier. 

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Yeah. 
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the gap between the curvature, 
probably be in the sixth given 

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that Fields as falling to the 
mid to late fifth down Borough 

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pulse the fifth sometimes. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, I think we mentioned 
Quinton Johnson but if Johnson 

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is good back to, you know, 
Keenan's price at the three, 

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four turn. 
I think he hurts my Mike 

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Williams, much more than he 
heard. 

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Oh, for sure Alan, which I 
actually Mike Williams. 

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We talk about the water severs 
in that range. 

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He's the one that I'm kind of 
most scared of in the McLaren 

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London, Judy Hopkins, Watson 
range. 

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I agree all those guys have red 
flags, but Williams for me, is 

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the, the toughest right-click 
because of that, I don't know. 

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He's never like he did have that
stretch of six games, right? 

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Yeah, that's sad. 
He's had a couple. 

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Is I was at I was at a Chiefs 
Chargers game, where he scored 

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three touchdowns and it just it 
was like there's sometimes 

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there's nothing you can do about
that. 

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Dude, the issue is that. 
He, every time he catches a 

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pass, it looks like he's gonna 
die. 

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Like he catches the pass. 
And you think you just like the 

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stretcher is coming out from. 
I mean, he's been injured every 

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year for the last three years. 
Yeah, what I would say. 

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So, Mike Williams is not like 
the most popular guy in our 

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circles. 
Generally. 

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He doesn't get open, which is a 
problem and he has contested 

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catch specialist. 
Who falls down extremely hard 

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every time he catches the ball. 
So not not my favorite archetype

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either but I do think he's a 
fine pick where he's going. 

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I think what Quinton Johnson 
could add to the offense, has 

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some more explosiveness but not 
necessarily like a high Target 

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learning type of profile. 
He's kind of a raw like athlete 

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is not as athletic as we were 
hoping. 

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But, you know, Kind of this 
yards, after catch type of guy. 

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He's not a very good deep 
breath. 

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I don't, I don't think he 
competes with Mike Williams in 

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the same exact way. 
Like, Mike Williams doesn't 

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separate at all, but is a really
good contested catch player. 

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He's more of like a tea. 
Higgins type, I think couldn't 

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Johnson's, probably more of like
a brain and I uke where I 

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shouldn't say. 
He's not a good deep threat. 

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I think he could if he's open 
over the middle, you know. 

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That could work really well but 
he's not like a guy, you Chuck 

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the ball up to, and he wins over
his Defender. 

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That's not who he is. 
He was actually pretty terrible 

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at that. 
Yeah, so in some ways Williams 

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could if the offense is like 
more explosive and more 

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difficult to deal with the big 
guy who can't separate getting 

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more one-on-one coverage, could 
be good. 

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I mean, Williams is sealing case
to being like a huge Advance 

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rate guy or the guy you need in 
week 17, it's all touchdown 

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related stat. 
Is that that's that's been his 

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As big as think what's 5oo and 
he score some touchdowns. 

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Yeah, let's talk about this 
Acres rise. 

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Because this to me, has nothing 
to do with Cam Akers or these 

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quotes around him. 
It just has to do with him being

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a more comfortable. 
Click one more comfortable, 

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click than the guys going 
directly around him and to every

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day that passes and they don't 
sign Zeke, or for net or cream 

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hunt or whatever, and it's him 
Chiron Williams and the fifth 

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round, rookie or whatever. 
It's just more likely he's the 

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guy but more comfortable click 
than Swift way more. 

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Comfortable have Alex looked 
better. 

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I'm so out on Swift, I know 
Swift is going to be the guy is 

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the reason why I don't win the 
3.5 million dollars. 

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I think. 
But I'd rather have Acres. 

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I was reviewing some numbers on 
Swift and just like his 

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receiving stuff. 
Is he's good, are we good? 

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He's good. 
Did I have no question? 

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No concern about cam Akers or 
about DeAndre Swift being a good

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player. 
The questions I have for the 

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same things that caused him to 
not play when he was in Detroit,

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which is He never does what his 
running back. 

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Coach asks him to do. 
And he in fact, it goes against 

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his instructions, all the time 
where they're like, we need, we 

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need you to do this and he's 
like, no, I'm gonna go freestyle

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jazz on the perimeter here 
instead, like I did this thread 

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the other day and I just Googled
news DeAndre Swift and every 

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Google news story from the last 
year is like do Staley or Dan, 

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Campbell being like. 
Yeah, you know, we sat him down 

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and we talked to him and was a 
good conversation but doesn't 

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really seem to be flying it and 
games, if I have that archetype,

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I would prefer him to be on the 
League's best offensive line in 

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an extremely explosive offense 
with the offensive philosophy 

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that prizes explosive plays, 
right? 

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So, I don't have any pushback on
DeAndre Swift's between the 

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tackles running. 
In fact, it might get overrated 

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just how bad it is. 
His success rate in NFL next 

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gen. 
Over the last couple of years 

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has been atrocious His and his 
yards before, contact up the 

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middle is like really good 
though. 

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You would expect that though, 
because he doesn't want to get 

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contacted. 
He will do anything to avoid the

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contact. 
He will, he will de doodle-do 

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like a 360 spin juke move, just 
so he doesn't get squared up. 

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So, you would think his yards 
before contact would be good? 

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You're right? 
That's true. 

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Well, isn't that like you're not
supposed to get contact? 

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Well, if you're coding for the 
place, if your coaches are 

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right, I can understand why that
would piss off, like, Dan 

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Campbell whatever. 
This, this is, the, this is, the

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thing is that we need him at 
this ATP, which is basically 

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where Mi Sanders was going last 
year. 

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Maybe he was a little bit 
cheaper than this realm like 

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relatively speaking at running 
back, but the idea because the 

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run that the Eagles are not 
going to throw that many passes 

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to, the running backs, there 
were 61 total thrust of the 

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running backs. 
Last year. 

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Split up amongst three guys, 61 
targets. 

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I don't even think It's 
attainable for Swift it. 

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When I agree. 
I agree. 

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So it's got to be touchdowns. 
He's got a score, a lot of 

447
00:24:57,508 --> 00:24:59,700
touchdowns. 
And if you're not getting 

448
00:24:59,700 --> 00:25:02,900
carries from the 3-yard line, 
which Mi Sanders got like a 

449
00:25:02,908 --> 00:25:05,500
bajillion of, it's going to be 
hard to get those touchdowns and

450
00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:08,600
then they might, in fact, their 
plan probably is to give him 

451
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,800
those touchdowns, right? 
Or those carries right now. 

452
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:15,000
I would guess. 
But four weeks into the season 

453
00:25:15,500 --> 00:25:18,600
and he gets stonewalled twice 
and bounces one to the outside 

454
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,100
and fumbles on one. 
How long do they stay? 

455
00:25:21,300 --> 00:25:24,200
To that, I think his chances of 
a strong goal. 

456
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,600
Line roll are extremely low, I 
think gain, well, might play 

457
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,900
ahead of him on the goal line 
that I take. 

458
00:25:29,900 --> 00:25:31,900
No, I take gain. 
Well, I prefer game. 

459
00:25:31,900 --> 00:25:33,600
Yeah. 
And even Boston Scott, I think 

460
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,300
might have the edge on him on 
the goal line. 

461
00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:38,800
Yeah. 
He is a guy who could score the 

462
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,700
unlikely like long-distance or 
sound that's what it is to me. 

463
00:25:41,700 --> 00:25:45,000
He's been he's kind of Walker. 
Yeah it's a Kenneth Walker play 

464
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,200
for me and I think he could get 
enough receiving volume to where

465
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,700
you know that makes him a little
interesting and then you're just

466
00:25:51,700 --> 00:25:54,700
betting that he rips off the 
long touchdown and at a seventh 

467
00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:59,000
round ATP or even eighth round 
sometimes like I don't need him 

468
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,800
to like I don't need the 
legendary upside. 

469
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,700
I don't need him to rack up a 
ton of touchdowns and it's a 

470
00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:06,000
real. 
What do you win when you win 

471
00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:08,300
style thing? 
Because the guys going around 

472
00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:15,000
him Acres Pacheco white Connor. 
These guys are very unlikely to 

473
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,700
be the guys, you need, right? 
I don't see, I don't see the 

474
00:26:17,700 --> 00:26:19,600
2021 or 2022. 
Josh. 

475
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,100
Jacob season like Pacheco is the
chief starting running back and 

476
00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:28,900
he's going to score like 160 
Shadow .5 P, PR points. 

477
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,100
I've been taking a little bit 
cuz he's falling, but it is, I 

478
00:26:32,100 --> 00:26:36,000
don't think the market has fully
clocked the fact that he won't 

479
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,000
be a training camp for like the 
first half is hurt. 

480
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,400
Yeah, he's hurt. 
Yeah. 

481
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,800
And there's this utf-8 and Erik 
Prince to they're all my God, 

482
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,700
enough of it. 
It's just it's all I see people.

483
00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:48,200
People with their dinaric 
prince. 

484
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,700
Well the the Pacheco drumbeat 
ended up being pretty predictive

485
00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:56,900
so I don't know. 
I think what's nice The expense 

486
00:26:56,900 --> 00:26:58,900
of Chiefs running back, that's 
it. 

487
00:26:58,900 --> 00:27:02,500
It's a good, it's really. 
I mean, it's one, that's an 

488
00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:05,100
extremely good philosophy. 
The issue with that is is that 

489
00:27:05,100 --> 00:27:07,600
McKinnon is not free, the way he
is dead Warriors. 

490
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,400
Past year, you're paying for 
McKinnon this year, another 

491
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,800
year, older and closer and 
closer to not be like to the 

492
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,900
point where the Chiefs get to 
December and they're like all 

493
00:27:18,900 --> 00:27:21,700
right jarek it's time and jaracz
like getting out of bed and 

494
00:27:21,700 --> 00:27:24,700
cracking his knees and like you 
know putting Icy Hot on his 

495
00:27:24,700 --> 00:27:26,700
back. 
Back like closer and closer to 

496
00:27:26,700 --> 00:27:30,000
him not being able to do that. 
Yeah, it's speaking of recovers.

497
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,000
Could it just be a sad like we 
cannot good say that Connor 

498
00:27:34,900 --> 00:27:38,700
could it their Chiefs backfield,
just be a spot where they're all

499
00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:42,400
priced up that like, the winner 
doesn't come from that. 

500
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,000
You, I mean 20 Clyde Clyde 
rookie year. 

501
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,900
They were all bad. 
Every every guy who played was 

502
00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:51,900
was bad, there was there was not
really one guy you wanted to 

503
00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:54,900
have that year. 
The following year Darrell was a

504
00:27:54,900 --> 00:27:56,200
smash. 
Yeah. 

505
00:27:56,300 --> 00:28:01,200
But 2020 Chiefs running backs. 
Let's see here. 

506
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,900
So Clyde was bad. 
Levy on was bad, Darwin Thompson

507
00:28:04,900 --> 00:28:08,000
was bad. 
Darrell had one good game but 

508
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,500
they were they were really none 
of them you wanted in fantasy. 

509
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,200
You kind of need to guy that 
come out of nowhere in that 

510
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,800
backfield like almost with like 
how random they use different 

511
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,400
players like it. 
I don't think it works to say 

512
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,700
you know what? 
This is, this is the Chiefs 

513
00:28:24,700 --> 00:28:27,200
back. 
Like, I know they're getting XYZ

514
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,400
volume and I'm just going to pay
for that. 

515
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,000
I don't think that like that 
works. 

516
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,200
Well, there's a running back 
with Super Bowl experience. 

517
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,600
Who said all he doesn't care 
about the money he gets on this 

518
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,200
next contract. 
All he wants to do is win 

519
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,800
another Super Bowl. 
Who is I just let her for that. 

520
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:42,900
Is going to sign with the 
Chiefs. 

521
00:28:42,900 --> 00:28:44,900
Like I just, I'm preparing 
Leonard fournette. 

522
00:28:44,900 --> 00:28:46,800
Such a good pick right now. 
I take him a lot. 

523
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,900
Yeah, I've sometimes take gain 
well and then I immediately 

524
00:28:49,900 --> 00:28:52,300
regret not adding another. 
No, no gain. 

525
00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:54,200
Well, gain. 
Well, Well is good. 

526
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,300
This actually you know but I 
just want I want for this maybe 

527
00:28:57,300 --> 00:28:59,400
it don't wear. 
The Bangles is a market for 

528
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:06,100
Lenny so this is also I think an
underreported thing is that the 

529
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:10,700
Bangles beat writers are saying 
that Joe Mixon and the team 

530
00:29:10,700 --> 00:29:13,800
still need to come to terms with
a pay cut for him. 

531
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,100
They're probably going to put a 
contract extension is what I was

532
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:21,300
reading in front of them and 
that extension, when I think 

533
00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:25,000
probably lower his cap kit. 
Be like a trade for maybe 

534
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,800
another year or two in exchange 
for less money this year, 

535
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,200
otherwise they're going to cut 
him. 

536
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,100
That's the way it sounds and the
markets like completely back in 

537
00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:36,700
on mixing now. 
But that is a spot right? 

538
00:29:36,700 --> 00:29:40,200
Like they could cut him in sign 
Lenny and honestly like is that 

539
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,400
worse for them? 
I mean, yeah it's probably 

540
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,100
slightly worse for them but you 
know if they can get a good a 

541
00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:49,700
good deal on Lenny who just 
wants to win a Super Bowl, then 

542
00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:53,500
I it's kind of a no-brainer 
Yeah, you're you are on a 

543
00:29:53,508 --> 00:29:55,100
present, right? 
I think this the Lenny, 

544
00:29:55,100 --> 00:29:59,600
conversation dovetails nicely 
with Jerome Ford who is just 

545
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,900
going to keep Rising every 
single week that the Browns, 

546
00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:03,900
don't sign another running back,
right? 

547
00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:05,700
Because like the coaches are all
really complementary. 

548
00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:08,500
If I mean this was around 18, 
pick when we started doing this 

549
00:30:08,700 --> 00:30:11,300
for BBM and now like, sometimes 
you got to take him in like the 

550
00:30:11,300 --> 00:30:14,100
14th on a zero running back team
to make sure you get them. 

551
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,400
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Things you that sure. 

552
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,300
I mean, I'm starting to get 
scared. 

553
00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:21,600
I get, the reports are good 
like, I think where he is. 

554
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,500
Fairly priced, but I'm starting 
to get skeptical of a guy who 

555
00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:29,600
had eight carries for 12 yards 
last year as this like Surefire,

556
00:30:29,900 --> 00:30:32,900
like I get right now he's the 
most likely, Cleveland number 

557
00:30:32,900 --> 00:30:36,100
two, but if chub goes down, 
like, I don't know. 

558
00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:39,600
I feel like it turns into a 
committee and with whom I think 

559
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,700
it's going to be a committee 
even which of their but look 

560
00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:45,200
who's in the other, they don't, 
they don't even have an R B3 on 

561
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,300
the roster right now. 
John Chow, but I think I think 

562
00:30:47,300 --> 00:30:48,800
they're gonna sign. 
I think they're gonna sign 

563
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,500
someone. 
I don't think it's going to be 

564
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,400
for net orhan. 
Thor someone, but, you know, 

565
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,700
Darryl, we are saying, they'll, 
they'll sign someone, but yeah, 

566
00:30:56,700 --> 00:30:58,300
maybe a deer hunter, some type 
or something. 

567
00:30:58,300 --> 00:31:04,100
I think I think Ford is a pretty
clear handcuff 1314, if he 

568
00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:07,200
settles there, that, I think 
that's okay, especially in a 

569
00:31:07,900 --> 00:31:11,000
period where we like, don't 
know, for sure who the handcuffs

570
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,000
were is unlike a number right 
back fields. 

571
00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:15,500
Yeah, that will. 
That is the explanatory 

572
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:17,900
variable, for why? 
The rise is happening is because

573
00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:20,300
we have less Clarity. 
Like the market doesn't know who

574
00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:22,600
to take between Chase Brown. 
Treyvion Williams. 

575
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,300
The market was like exuberant 
about Chase Brown for a period 

576
00:31:26,300 --> 00:31:27,900
and they don't need to be 
anymore. 

577
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,400
This, this Paris Campbell rise. 
What are we doing? 

578
00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:35,600
Paris Campbell's not going to be
who you need week 17, spoiler. 

579
00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:40,900
Well, that's that's fair. 
I, it does sound like he's gonna

580
00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:43,100
get like a fair amount of 
playing time out of the gate to 

581
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:47,300
me, this is one Dale Robinson 
thing where I just like I'm 

582
00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:52,700
taking a slot receiver off, an 
ACL tear and he might start the 

583
00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:56,600
season on pup and they signed, 
like 18, slot receivers, which 

584
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,000
is not great anyway. 
And then one of them is starting

585
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,600
to get buzzed like want and 
wandell's still like more 

586
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,800
expensive than Hodgins and 
Slaton, obviously, I'm still 

587
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,000
free. 
So to me, it's Hodgins Slaton. 

588
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,800
Those are the guys I want to be 
drafting. 

589
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,100
Highest also feels very he's 
with the third team right now is

590
00:32:14,108 --> 00:32:16,300
a third round pick. 
I don't know. 

591
00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:17,600
Weird right? 
I just don't care. 

592
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,700
I'll just take one day. 
Look for The Vibes dude. 

593
00:32:19,700 --> 00:32:21,900
But well, there's Good Vibes. 
Yeah. 

594
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,000
Like I just think yeah. 
Like I the the Paris Campbell 

595
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,100
Vibes his entire career, like 
he's amongst the worst Vibes of 

596
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:31,000
any player in the NFL. 
I agree with you. 

597
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,000
The Vibes are so bad. 
I don't care how much guaranteed

598
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,900
money he got if they're counting
on this thing is either wide 

599
00:32:36,900 --> 00:32:39,000
receiver. 
He's gonna he's gonna have an 

600
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,100
ankle tweak and we're going to 
be treated to Jameson Crowder by

601
00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:45,700
like week three. 
I just don't know why Paris is 

602
00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:48,900
that like he did get like an 80%
ripe Cherry last year. 

603
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,400
Storms, 550 now, PP or points. 
I'm not sure what the hot 

604
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,200
people, you are where it was, 
but he did score points. 

605
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:01,700
And if you got that from the 16 
17 rounds, like that's useful. 

606
00:33:02,100 --> 00:33:06,400
Like if he did just end up being
like, a plays, most of the 

607
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,900
schnapps guy, that would be 
useful. 

608
00:33:08,900 --> 00:33:14,600
I mean, they say, I could see 
Paris, Putting together like has

609
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,200
a Jonesy kind of season where 
he's just out there a lot. 

610
00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:20,500
Yeah but look. 
See, John's can like run real 

611
00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:22,900
routes and like go down field in
a way that Paris is Paris. 

612
00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:25,500
Campbell is just kind of 
survived off like gimmicky like 

613
00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:29,600
screens and Yak stuff. 
I don't know, I think it's a 

614
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,900
little that's like a little bit 
of slandered as a Jones a 

615
00:33:32,900 --> 00:33:35,900
Campbell last year, you know, 
out of 100 wide receivers. 

616
00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:39,900
He was 94th in Europe for out, 
Ron 86 and targets for out, Ron 

617
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,800
86th and PFF, receiving grade 6,
half. 

618
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,700
PPR It's for game. 
I mean, I don't know, I don't 

619
00:33:46,700 --> 00:33:49,700
get, I guess I can't hate on the
Giants picks too much because 

620
00:33:49,700 --> 00:33:52,800
it's so uncertain. 
And yeah, if I was projected, 

621
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,500
now he's probably the starting 
slot wide receiver to start the 

622
00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:57,600
year. 
But shearling Shepherd, their 

623
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,800
Sterling Shepherds actually like
looking healthy and Camp. 

624
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,200
Apparently, that's the thing of 
Sterling Shepherd. 

625
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,800
Stayed healthy for the entire 
season. 

626
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,000
I feel like we should have just 
taken him every time. 

627
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,900
Like Sterling Shepherd, could 
have a wide receiver. 

628
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,000
He could be like the wide 
receiver 13.5. 

629
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,100
PPR if he stays healthy all 
year, listen, if he's, what do 

630
00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:16,699
you want to try this? 
Rumors, say, come in the 20th 

631
00:34:16,699 --> 00:34:18,000
round than the ffp. 
See. 

632
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,100
Live drops every year. 
Yeah, it's a good pick. 

633
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:23,400
It's good pick. 
Didn't he did he tear his 

634
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,500
Achilles too? 
Or is it just an ACL? 

635
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:34,900
He's had a, he's at home. 
That's so tough and not see him 

636
00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:39,100
like since I don't know, I don't
draft him but I wouldn't be 

637
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:42,400
shocked if he was, but he's 
coming out of the slot. 

638
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,199
Most likely that's I just don't 
actually, I don't want. 

639
00:34:45,300 --> 00:34:49,100
To spend any capital on the 
giant slot receiver. 

640
00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:50,699
When there's so many guys you 
could be there. 

641
00:34:50,699 --> 00:34:52,300
Exactly. 
It's and it's like, what do you 

642
00:34:52,308 --> 00:34:54,000
when you win? 
It's like great. 

643
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,200
You got, you know, Daniel Jones 
slot wide receiver. 

644
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,100
I don't get it there. 
And wohlers also there, he's 

645
00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:01,300
going to play in the slot, a 
bunch of people. 

646
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,200
People are our, it's type of our
hypothetical eating this. 

647
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,900
That's not the right word 
hypothesizing that Waller is 

648
00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:11,900
going to be like a boundary wide
receiver. 

649
00:35:11,900 --> 00:35:14,500
That like the role, they have 
carved out for him is actually 

650
00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:17,600
just to use it. 
Him as like a flanker basically 

651
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,400
interesting. 
I mean he has played something 

652
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,500
would be there throughout his 
career, I bet he rotates. 

653
00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:26,000
I bet he plays lot of Eddie 
plays outside Stephen all 

654
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,400
surprised and lime time but 
that, I bet, that's right. 

655
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,500
Yeah, that was his position in 
college. 

656
00:35:30,500 --> 00:35:34,400
He was he was the Georgia Tech 
flanker when he was a he was a 

657
00:35:34,408 --> 00:35:37,900
Collegiate wide receiver. 
So it's not it's not like the 

658
00:35:37,900 --> 00:35:42,800
craziest thing but I mean I 
think that that's that's sounds 

659
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,600
better if like they add that to 
his existing like slot and rice 

660
00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:49,900
roll. 
Yeah, I've gotta I've been 

661
00:35:49,900 --> 00:35:54,100
liking Waller especially on some
like Waller Stacks like aren't 

662
00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:56,300
going my way and I'm like oh 
this is feeling like a pretty 

663
00:35:56,300 --> 00:35:59,600
uncorrelated team grabbing 
Waller and stacking up with 

664
00:35:59,700 --> 00:36:03,200
Daniel Jones and then tack on 
like halogens are Slayton later.

665
00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:06,300
I mean, I think he's just going 
to be the focal point of like if

666
00:36:06,500 --> 00:36:08,900
If all goes to plan, I think 
they're planning on him. 

667
00:36:08,900 --> 00:36:12,100
Being the focal point of their 
passing attack, whether he still

668
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,700
can do that. 
I'm not 100% sure but I think 

669
00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:18,100
that's their plan identify like 
you with that. 

670
00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:21,700
I like the color. 
He played, 20 percent of his 

671
00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:25,300
snaps out wide last season. 
That was his low with the 

672
00:36:25,300 --> 00:36:30,100
Raiders in 2018 is first year 
with the Raiders he played six 

673
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:33,400
laps at your so 2019 is the 
first real year at the Raiders. 

674
00:36:33,900 --> 00:36:39,900
He had a 25% rate of That why? 
I mean yeah I think he's going 

675
00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:41,500
to he's gonna move around the 
formation for sure. 

676
00:36:41,900 --> 00:36:45,900
And that's out why it is in like
on the boundary as opposed to 

677
00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:48,800
like suck position, right? 
Yes, lot. 

678
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:54,600
He was at 31% in 2019 in line 
for 45 percent last year. 

679
00:36:54,600 --> 00:37:00,100
He was in the slot, primarily 
62%, he wasn't only in line for 

680
00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:04,800
for 17% of a snaps last year. 
They were just having them run 

681
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,200
deep out of the slot did You 
know, the other interesting 

682
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,800
thing is that they they also 
like balance Ballinger. 

683
00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:15,300
Like they don't think Ballinger 
is like a zero like he's going 

684
00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:18,600
to he's going to be around and 
kind of like a Noah gray style 

685
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,300
way just like blocking a lot, 
but that directly takes naps 

686
00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:24,900
away from these like 900 slot 
wide receivers who are getting 

687
00:37:24,900 --> 00:37:28,400
drafted point being. 
They're all pretty bad pics. 

688
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,200
I think like just very unlikely 
they're they're the two things 

689
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,100
are, they're unlikely to be that
just like veteran like he'll get

690
00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:37,800
you 11 points. 
Like, they'll get you 11 points 

691
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:43,500
sometimes and extremely unlikely
to give you like 25 points Bike 

692
00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:45,700
Week like almost impossible, 
cheers. 

693
00:37:45,700 --> 00:37:48,700
So, I don't think it's like, you
know, we're spending so much 

694
00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:52,000
time, you know, not not, this 
isn't like these guys are super 

695
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:57,000
pricey but relatively pricey 
picks in Campbell wandel 

696
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,100
Robinson, like trying to figure 
out the giant slot wide 

697
00:38:00,100 --> 00:38:02,800
receiver. 
When like the bills slot wide 

698
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,200
receiver is just completely 
free. 

699
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,300
Like I just can't think you're 
in Hardy AR. 

700
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,300
Better pay if you're trying to 
figure out like think the slot 

701
00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:11,600
wide receiver on a team. 
Like why are we doing this on 

702
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,100
the New York Giants? 
Like the it makes so then these 

703
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:18,300
guys think the Giants up should 
just be undrafted basically 

704
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,800
pretty much no there. 
But they're like, I think 

705
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,400
they're all 18th round picks. 
Like they're the same thing as 

706
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,800
taking. 
Greg dork, right me. 

707
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,000
Yeah, I don't mind the outside 
guys as much but Slayton is free

708
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,400
and I do mind taking. 
Hi, I'm like hi, it's ATP to me 

709
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,300
is never corrected since he was 
talked about as a potential 

710
00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:40,700
First round pick like his price 
is pretty similar to when we 

711
00:38:40,700 --> 00:38:43,700
thought that was on the table. 
And now, the third round pick is

712
00:38:43,707 --> 00:38:46,400
playing with the third team 
offense, Slayton was good last 

713
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,600
year. 
This coaching staff has, you 

714
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,200
know, history dating back to the
bills of bring the rookies along

715
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,900
slowly. 
I just have like a hard time 

716
00:38:56,900 --> 00:38:59,100
thinking that high, it's going 
to add like at I'll take him 

717
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:00,400
sometimes correlate with Daniel 
Jones. 

718
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,300
I want to be completely out but 
I just think Slayton being free 

719
00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:07,100
is is nice. 
And then I do Take Hodgins as 

720
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:10,800
well because I think you know as
long as they don't do something 

721
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:16,000
with wall or where he's like 
legit, clang the X but you're 

722
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,300
saying Davis, he might be more 
like the flanker with the Z. 

723
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,200
So if Hodgins has the X roll 
kind of locked down there's no 

724
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,200
one else that really challenges 
in that Hodgins is that if 

725
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,900
things get weird for them as a 
team and training camp and 

726
00:39:27,900 --> 00:39:31,400
someone's performing above 
expectation, or is like becomes 

727
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,800
a core for special teamer when 
they haven't before or just 

728
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,900
something like that Hodgins is 
makes Money. 

729
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,300
So, he's the easiest, he's the 
easiest to cut. 

730
00:39:39,300 --> 00:39:40,500
I mean, I think there's like 
audible. 

731
00:39:40,900 --> 00:39:43,700
I don't you, like, I win the 
starting job or he's gonna get 

732
00:39:43,700 --> 00:39:46,100
caught. 
Yes, there's no value for him as

733
00:39:46,100 --> 00:39:49,000
a backup. 
Yes, like if he has a mediocre 

734
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,600
training camp or like you just 
look, if he lips off to the 

735
00:39:51,607 --> 00:39:56,500
coaching staff for just like he,
he makes like they have like 11 

736
00:39:56,500 --> 00:39:59,900
wide receivers on their roster. 
He makes the least money so it's

737
00:39:59,900 --> 00:40:01,700
just very simply on a rookie 
deal though. 

738
00:40:01,700 --> 00:40:04,100
So that's not necessarily a 
reflection of his value. 

739
00:40:04,100 --> 00:40:05,500
Well it's making me sick a lot 
of freight. 

740
00:40:05,500 --> 00:40:07,600
Yeah, it's not her. 
Flexion of his market value, 

741
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,400
right? 
Because they didn't have to pay 

742
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,500
him anymore to lock him. 
Yeah, they just they just claim.

743
00:40:12,500 --> 00:40:14,500
It sounds more, like, they'll 
keep them then. 

744
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:18,700
Well, so we could say it makes 
anything below Market. 

745
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,700
He's a boy but he has to be a 
starter right. 

746
00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:26,400
If he's like we trust him. 
He's going to play experts with 

747
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,300
that's great. 
Then I'll send us contracts an 

748
00:40:28,300 --> 00:40:30,600
advantage if he loses the 
starting role to someone else, 

749
00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:34,800
he's an easy cut because the 
problem is if you look at and 

750
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,000
this isn't always end all be 
all. 

751
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,000
But you look at the guaranteed 
money, they gave I think seven 

752
00:40:39,500 --> 00:40:42,700
guaranteed to Slayton. 
So he's a lock, to make the team

753
00:40:42,900 --> 00:40:44,900
Paris Campbell. 
I think they actually gave 3 

754
00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:47,600
million guaranteed. 
So that's like nearly a lock to 

755
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,100
make the team. 
I'd say they could kill them 

756
00:40:49,100 --> 00:40:52,100
with that but it'd be a little 
glossy generating Buzz become 

757
00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:53,100
out of that kind of. 
Yeah. 

758
00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:55,300
And they also, you know, they 
spent a second round pick on one

759
00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:56,200
day. 
All this pain, a third-round 

760
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,100
pick on Hyatt, those guys aren't
getting caught. 

761
00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:00,500
So like, once you start doing 
the math Hodgins, I write is 

762
00:41:00,500 --> 00:41:03,500
that nobody else is quotable. 
He's the last man. 

763
00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:06,300
He's like, that's the thing is 
that he's competing with like 

764
00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:09,300
Shepherd and Crowder. 
I guess. 

765
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:12,300
Like so he's and he's a cult 
favorite a couple. 

766
00:41:12,300 --> 00:41:13,600
Yeah, he's a favorite. 
He's a favor. 

767
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,700
Yeah, he's a huge favorite over 
those guys. 

768
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,100
Because although it's like I 
think we tend to do this cranes.

769
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:22,200
Made this point to me before is 
we tend to overreact when these 

770
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,500
guys who come out of nowhere 
over perform a couple games, 

771
00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:28,600
like Richie James, his former 
teammate is actually a great 

772
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,800
example of this Ritchie James 
career, special team. 

773
00:41:31,900 --> 00:41:33,800
Like it was special teams for 
San Francisco. 

774
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,200
For two years comes in on a 
Monday night against Green Bay, 

775
00:41:37,700 --> 00:41:41,000
13 targets 11 receptions, 180 
yards and two touchdowns and we 

776
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,600
literally never heard from him 
again. 

777
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,700
He came in, he played really 
well. 

778
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,900
We never heard from him again. 
Again, the 49ers unceremoniously

779
00:41:47,900 --> 00:41:49,800
cut him, he was a reserve 
player. 

780
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,600
He was playing behind David 
Sills, like in for the Giants. 

781
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,000
Like it didn't matter. 
He was good for the Giants last 

782
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,300
year and they get and they moved
on from him like no sweat. 

783
00:41:59,300 --> 00:42:00,800
They didn't think twice about 
it. 

784
00:42:00,900 --> 00:42:03,600
It's the Travis fulgham 
corollary basically. 

785
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,000
Oh my God. 
Yes. 

786
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,800
These guys can just disappear 
and I agree that like, you know,

787
00:42:09,900 --> 00:42:12,300
we're not saying Hodgins, is 
unlikely to make the team, or 

788
00:42:12,300 --> 00:42:13,400
that Shepherd, is better than 
him. 

789
00:42:13,408 --> 00:42:15,500
I don't think anyone of any of 
us are saying that were just 

790
00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:17,700
saying that. 
Like I would put his odds of 

791
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:21,300
making the team at like 80%. 
And there's a lot of guys, you 

792
00:42:21,308 --> 00:42:23,200
can take that are closer to 
100%. 

793
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,100
So it's like, do you want to 
take that risk? 

794
00:42:25,100 --> 00:42:27,100
I think you can justify it. 
Like, I've taken some Hodgins, 

795
00:42:27,100 --> 00:42:29,100
but I think you have to 
acknowledge. 

796
00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:31,800
He does have like a legit cover,
a cut risk. 

797
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,600
I do think you have to 
acknowledge that. 

798
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,600
I take a fair amount of them 
because I think, His odds of 

799
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,800
starting are also about eighty 
percent. 

800
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,400
So it's like you know, it's like
the scenarios where he doesn't 

801
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,100
start, he's a zero. 
But there's guys in that room 

802
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:48,100
you could get. 
You could get picked up, you 

803
00:42:48,100 --> 00:42:49,400
know? 
I mean I think I didn't seem 

804
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,400
would claim him. 
Good land mangoes bills. 

805
00:42:51,500 --> 00:42:54,400
Yeah, I was gonna say maybe he 
goes back to Buffalo where they 

806
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,800
they do kind of need someone. 
Let's do it. 

807
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:02,300
Let's do I uke cuz I am buying 
this dude like I you into I you 

808
00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:05,800
quit with Purdy for 17 games 
dude like come and I made on 

809
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,400
About to, they both seem they 
both seem like guys who can get 

810
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,900
there with 22 percent Target 
shares, and they definitely can 

811
00:43:13,900 --> 00:43:16,500
be the guys, you need week. 17. 
I think both things are true. 

812
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,900
Someone tweeted this out this 
week. 

813
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:24,200
I'm blanking on here, but it was
when I, you can see MC D Bo. 

814
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:28,200
Wait, Dwyane Wade, when all 
everyone was healthy and on the 

815
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,300
field, it was basically, I uke 
Debo and CNC all with like 20, 

816
00:43:32,300 --> 00:43:36,300
21 percent Target shares, and 
then kid'll at, like, Percent. 

817
00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:37,600
Now that's that's a small 
sample. 

818
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,000
Like I don't think that's how 
I'd like project it in the 

819
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,000
median outcome but I think IU 
has a chance to be. 

820
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:47,600
You know the top Target get it 
on this offense if Purdy plays a

821
00:43:47,607 --> 00:43:51,500
full year so Harmons get 
something reception stuff always

822
00:43:51,500 --> 00:43:53,800
like sigh. 
You always always grades him out

823
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,800
really well? 
Which makes sense. 

824
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,600
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

825
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,200
I was wasn't quite as into I you
back when the quarterback 

826
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,800
situation felt like very 
uncertain now. 

827
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,800
You know, you get into that 
really fifth round and it's like

828
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,200
Godwin, Pittman Iuka is just 
such an easy. 

829
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,000
Click there, for me over those 
guys, like just a weekly upside.

830
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,500
The, this offense is rolling 
down the stretch, like, you 

831
00:44:21,500 --> 00:44:24,100
think about, you know, how 
psyched we were to draft. 

832
00:44:24,100 --> 00:44:26,200
These guys in the the playoff 
basketball. 

833
00:44:26,500 --> 00:44:27,600
It's went. 
Oh my God. 

834
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,300
Every, you know, every draft. 
I took one of these. 

835
00:44:29,300 --> 00:44:32,300
Yeah. 
If they're that 49ers, then like

836
00:44:32,300 --> 00:44:35,100
you're going to be so psyched 
that you have fifth round. 

837
00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:37,500
I you look like that. 
That seems like a pretty easy 

838
00:44:37,500 --> 00:44:41,200
and, and for their games, every 
year that used to be Rock 

839
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,800
fights, right against the Rams 
and the Cardinals. 

840
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,200
Those used to be and the 
Seahawks honestly for that 

841
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,900
matter, those NFC West games 
used to be like rock fights and 

842
00:44:48,900 --> 00:44:52,400
now, every team in that division
either stinks or plays like a 

843
00:44:52,408 --> 00:44:55,400
more wide open fun version of 
football. 

844
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,000
Like those seven games are those
eight games that they're going 

845
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,700
to play are all better games and
the week 17 game could be fun 

846
00:45:02,700 --> 00:45:04,500
too. 
I mean it could be tear, it 

847
00:45:04,500 --> 00:45:07,700
could also be terrible. 
If the If L is good that road. 

848
00:45:07,700 --> 00:45:10,000
Yes, it could really push the 
49ers. 

849
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,400
Yeah, I use. 
Like so they probably won't be 

850
00:45:14,408 --> 00:45:17,200
running a ton, right? 
I mean, you'd hope the enemy 

851
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,000
would be, you know, inclined to 
be passing more than they did 

852
00:45:21,500 --> 00:45:23,800
previously anyway. 
But especially against the 

853
00:45:23,808 --> 00:45:28,200
49ers, like, I don't know. 
You don't want to just slam 

854
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,700
Brian Robinson for the line. 
Yeah, I'm talking on the the 

855
00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:36,200
Patriots stuff. 
So with James Robinson getting 

856
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:41,700
cut both Ramon jae-rim, Andre a 
stronger showing up here as 

857
00:45:41,700 --> 00:45:45,300
risers which I think is kind of 
funny because Robinson shouldn't

858
00:45:45,300 --> 00:45:47,500
affect those guys atp's. 
I don't think he was likely to 

859
00:45:47,508 --> 00:45:51,200
make the team the entire time. 
But anyways, I think here strong

860
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,200
as probably the more interesting
one to talk through here does 

861
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,500
anyone feel Feel good about 
Pierre, strong and the 18th. 

862
00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:02,200
I've been taking him, but I do 
feel that it's still pretty 

863
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,200
uncertain between him. 
Kevin Harris, you know, Ty 

864
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,700
Montgomery there. 
Let me, let me tell you 

865
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:10,600
something. 
I know with 100% certainty, 

866
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,800
which is that Bill Belichick is 
going to try and make this time 

867
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,000
Montgomery thing happen. 
Like it's just, no, is he going 

868
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,500
to get hurt immediately, of 
course, but Ty Montgomery is 

869
00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:22,900
going to be when it's the first 
third down of the year, for the 

870
00:46:22,900 --> 00:46:25,400
New England, Patriots, Ty 
Montgomery is going to be like, 

871
00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:28,400
motioning from the Lot into the 
backfield with a hundred percent

872
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,800
certainty. 
Yeah, I don't know, Brandon 

873
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,200
Bolden role, he's playing in 
Camp right now, so a couple 

874
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,900
things on time of country, he 
did have that role in week one 

875
00:46:36,900 --> 00:46:39,600
last year, which a lot of people
are citing before he got hurt in

876
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,800
the first half. 
I think he was playing third 

877
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,000
down role and that offensive was
a gross three-man committee with

878
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,800
Harris from Andre and time on 
all getting snaps. 

879
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:52,500
But right now in Camp, he's 
playing clearly behind a strong 

880
00:46:52,500 --> 00:46:54,400
like Strong's mixing up the 
first team. 

881
00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:57,100
It's still super early. 
So so who knows how much Street 

882
00:46:57,100 --> 00:46:59,300
into that. 
But I just can't figure out like

883
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,300
what is the complement to Ramon?
Like, are they looking for a 

884
00:47:02,308 --> 00:47:04,800
pass catching back to be the 
Confluence of Vermont? 

885
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,800
Are they looking for a short 
like, I can sign? 

886
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,900
I see it going either way. 
You know what I mean? 

887
00:47:08,900 --> 00:47:12,000
It's not clear where about 
what's the quote work? 

888
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,500
That he's the starter, but we 
want to spell them unclear 

889
00:47:15,500 --> 00:47:18,900
passing situations. 
I thought that was a quote that 

890
00:47:18,900 --> 00:47:21,000
came out like that was important
on Dre. 

891
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,500
Yes, yes. 
I never seen something like 

892
00:47:24,500 --> 00:47:26,500
that. 
I think it could be kind of like

893
00:47:26,900 --> 00:47:29,600
mix anywhere. 
Am Andre still catches a lot of 

894
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,300
passes and its use in the 
passing game but like does get 

895
00:47:32,300 --> 00:47:36,200
subbed out on third down, some 
for I guess Ty Montgomery may be

896
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,400
pierced wrong but I don't know. 
You wouldn't need them to pass a

897
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:45,100
lot on first and second down. 
I think for that to be similar 

898
00:47:45,100 --> 00:47:50,100
to Mixon, I mean, the the this 
is the, the ideal thing that 

899
00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:53,300
would happen for am. 
Andre would be For him to take 

900
00:47:53,300 --> 00:47:59,500
the Sony Michelle. 
I don't you know who always had 

901
00:47:59,500 --> 00:48:02,100
a Damien. 
Well, Damien Harris, Sony 

902
00:48:02,100 --> 00:48:04,400
Michel. 
Who is the guy before Michelle? 

903
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:08,700
But no, Steven Ridley. 
Stevan Ridley, was the name, I 

904
00:48:08,700 --> 00:48:14,200
was searching for, but then also
subsume the third rule, right? 

905
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,200
Because the Patriots used to 
have three roles, they have they

906
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,800
have the grinder that have the 
passing down back then they'd 

907
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,400
have like their Red Zone. 
Swiss army knife, we are Dad, 

908
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,400
you know, Rexburg, it would be 
Rex Burkhead, be a lot of 

909
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,600
different. 
And so, what your employees 

910
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,000
really want is you'd want him to
have the Damien Harris, Stevan 

911
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,800
Ridley role. 
But then also have that I would 

912
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,700
call it, I would actually call 
it the Kevin Faulk role as 

913
00:48:37,700 --> 00:48:41,200
opposed to like the Shane, 
Vereen James White role where 

914
00:48:41,300 --> 00:48:46,100
you're getting him 40 to 50 
receptions and all the goal line

915
00:48:46,100 --> 00:48:48,600
work and that that is like 
that's totally justified in this

916
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,800
cause and there's enough meat on
the bone for a stronger. 

917
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,200
Harris to get around 18 value. 
No problem. 

918
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,800
Yeah. 
Or Ty, Montgomery? 

919
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,400
Right? 
I mean, when he's 30 years old, 

920
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,800
he hasn't played backups. 
Montgomery's 30 years old and 

921
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,200
hasn't played a full seat. 
His played one full season in 

922
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,200
his last four years, so I guess 
something like yeah, 20 touches 

923
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,500
in the last like three or four. 
You like, yeah, I'm kind of sick

924
00:49:13,500 --> 00:49:16,600
of the time Montgomery stuff, 
but I don't know. 

925
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:17,800
I do agree. 
They're gonna there. 

926
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:22,900
It's not going to be like 100%, 
you know, a cm Cyril Forum Andre

927
00:49:22,900 --> 00:49:26,000
Stevenson but I think sometimes 
we fail to put these things in 

928
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,100
context where I still would 
project from Andre to have one 

929
00:49:29,100 --> 00:49:31,800
of the largest backfield shares 
of any running back this year, 

930
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,800
like top 10, it doesn't mean 
that they're not going to get 

931
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,000
somebody else involved. 
So I'm not reading into much to 

932
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,000
these all season storylines like
they have the same running back 

933
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,100
room last year. 
I mean Ty Montgomery was injured

934
00:49:43,100 --> 00:49:45,200
but you know what? 
It was Ramon drapey are strong 

935
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,700
and Kevin Harris. 
All healthy last year he had a 

936
00:49:47,707 --> 00:49:51,600
Workhorse role. 
So why is that gonna change this

937
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:52,800
year? 
Yes, you can use the time 

938
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,400
Montgomery argument but I'm 
pretty ended. 

939
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,600
Did those backups were rookies 
last year and we've seen them, 

940
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,500
you know, they completely 
redshirted are Harris. 

941
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,200
You know, having those guys 
enter their second years and 

942
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,900
ideal for him. 
I actually think having James 

943
00:50:05,900 --> 00:50:09,800
Robertson be cut in some ways is
bad because Robinson was not 

944
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,600
going to be good. 
You know, these other guys could

945
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,700
be good. 
It's at least plausible, that 

946
00:50:14,700 --> 00:50:19,400
one of them is really good. 
So I don't think these guys are 

947
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,600
huge threats to remind you. 
I think reminder is totally 

948
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,900
fine. 
Pick like late 3rd round worm 

949
00:50:23,900 --> 00:50:27,200
Andre which has been available. 
Pretty much all offseason has 

950
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,100
been ranked the, the guy I think
looking at this I just I mean 

951
00:50:30,100 --> 00:50:33,000
I'm back to the 2008, New 
England, Patriots trying to find

952
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,500
a comp to Ramon Dre. 
And there really isn't one 

953
00:50:35,500 --> 00:50:39,200
because they've always had its 
segmented out, but it's never, 

954
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:43,700
they they've never done what it 
looks like they're doing with 

955
00:50:43,700 --> 00:50:45,300
their mom and rate, which is 
transitioning. 

956
00:50:45,300 --> 00:50:51,700
A guy from the Vereen Falk, 
would head roll into the Ridley,

957
00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:55,200
Eros blunt role, but that's what
they're doing right now. 

958
00:50:55,300 --> 00:50:58,600
And so I think I can't remember 
if Sam or Pat just said this, 

959
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,300
but like applying the context of
like they look reminders, really

960
00:51:02,300 --> 00:51:04,900
good at both things. 
He's good at, he's good at the 

961
00:51:04,900 --> 00:51:08,100
past catching and he's good. 
In the short yardage Bill, 

962
00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:10,200
Belichick is like a pragmatic 
guy, he's not going to. 

963
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,300
I don't think, I don't think 
they're going to be like, well, 

964
00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:15,200
we gotta get pierced wrong eight
touches in this game, just 

965
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,100
because he is that role in the 
backfield, it was that smoke 

966
00:51:18,100 --> 00:51:21,100
could be wrong if I'm wrong 
about Strong's profile, but I 

967
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:26,500
think it Could be sort of like a
CMC Mitchell type. 

968
00:51:26,500 --> 00:51:30,100
Split where Pierre strong comes 
in a sort of the change of pace 

969
00:51:30,300 --> 00:51:32,500
like five to ten carries per 
game guy. 

970
00:51:32,500 --> 00:51:35,600
He profiles is more sort of like
a rusher than a receiver and 

971
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,700
Ramon Dre, still keeps like the 
goal line work and the 

972
00:51:38,700 --> 00:51:41,300
receptions and they bring in 
strong with you some of like the

973
00:51:41,300 --> 00:51:46,200
Trap Back type stuff. 
I mean he's 511, 205 pounds very

974
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:51,800
fast and he's yeah. 
I mean I don't I don't think he 

975
00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:54,600
Files is like a passing game 
specialist, but I think you need

976
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,400
to start. 
He profiles to say it is 

977
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:03,200
explosion back, he's a yeah, 
change of pace, you know, having

978
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,500
Coleman e type of guy basically,
it's I mean, he's a breakaway 

979
00:52:06,500 --> 00:52:08,300
Runner. 
You couldn't really see this 

980
00:52:08,300 --> 00:52:11,000
being presented in college. 
You could really see this being 

981
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,900
a Devonta Freeman Tevin Coleman 
thing where they're really just 

982
00:52:13,900 --> 00:52:16,600
sort of interchangeable but one 
guy really gets the Lion's 

983
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:17,800
Share. 
Yeah. 

984
00:52:18,100 --> 00:52:22,600
And some you remember, we were 
doing such a thing and Like if a

985
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,800
guy had 70% of the backfield 
chair, he was like almost in the

986
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:31,100
top five like the bear to be the
quote. 

987
00:52:31,100 --> 00:52:34,300
Unquote Workhorse is like so 
much with over now. 

988
00:52:35,100 --> 00:52:37,200
It really is. 
Yeah, I think people forget that

989
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,700
to you when they're like, oh 
this guy's gonna have a role. 

990
00:52:38,700 --> 00:52:41,800
It's like I mean literally 
unless you're talking about 

991
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:46,400
nausea Harrison 2021 CMC in 2020
like yes you can list like four 

992
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,100
or five guys that literally had 
that insane Workhorse roll the 

993
00:52:49,100 --> 00:52:52,400
past couple of years but it kind
of doesn't Exist. 

994
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:56,500
So I think holding Ramon try to 
this higher bar then you know 

995
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,000
it's never just gonna see your 
CMC is going to mix in for 

996
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,500
another. 
It would make me nervous. 

997
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,500
It really. 
S, s, right? 

998
00:53:02,500 --> 00:53:04,900
Yeah, yeah. 
Not not in the turd. 

999
00:53:05,500 --> 00:53:08,900
That's what I've come to that. 
Conclusion on a number of these 

1000
00:53:08,900 --> 00:53:13,300
packs is that I actually I think
if they were all second-round 

1001
00:53:13,300 --> 00:53:15,900
picks which is kind of the 
feeling of the market is like, 

1002
00:53:15,900 --> 00:53:17,900
man, we're getting such amazing 
values on these guys in the 

1003
00:53:17,900 --> 00:53:21,200
third round, but I actually 
think they'd be fairly weak 

1004
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,300
second round. 
Picks a number of them and 

1005
00:53:23,300 --> 00:53:25,300
remind Ray. 
I think Falls in that ring. 

1006
00:53:25,300 --> 00:53:28,400
So is Josh Jacobs undervalued 
because he's going to get like 

1007
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,300
every goddamn touch, even Josh 
Jacobs. 

1008
00:53:31,300 --> 00:53:33,600
I don't think like, I was 
looking at these guys through 

1009
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,300
the, the legendary upside 
screener. 

1010
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,900
And, you know, like, if you look
at things that have predicted 

1011
00:53:38,900 --> 00:53:41,200
these massive seasons in the 
past, like, Josh Jacobs is not a

1012
00:53:41,207 --> 00:53:43,600
very good bet. 
You know, even last year, we had

1013
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,700
about 18 points, per game is 
kind of a four net type of thing

1014
00:53:46,700 --> 00:53:50,100
where like last year were, you 
know, drafting for net on the 

1015
00:53:50,100 --> 00:53:52,700
two, three turn he's coming. 
Awesome season. 

1016
00:53:52,700 --> 00:53:57,000
But even then he had like 18 
points per game or so people in,

1017
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,400
PPR, okay. 
I got 20 21 and it's like 

1018
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:01,400
Hitler. 
What you then? 

1019
00:54:01,900 --> 00:54:04,000
Kenny have the ceiling. 
The true ceiling outcome. 

1020
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,100
Do you need to update the 
screener to include fewer points

1021
00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:09,200
per game? 
Because running backs are 

1022
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,900
scoring fewer points as a cup. 
I of the points that are 

1023
00:54:11,900 --> 00:54:16,000
available I'd well I think 
there's two things, right? 

1024
00:54:16,100 --> 00:54:19,300
One is what do you need out of 
the third round? 

1025
00:54:19,300 --> 00:54:23,000
Compared to what you need out of
the One to turn and I think 

1026
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:27,500
that's a pretty different if you
get a guy who scores, you know, 

1027
00:54:27,500 --> 00:54:30,300
18 PPR points in the middle of 
third round. 

1028
00:54:30,500 --> 00:54:34,700
That's pretty fucking awesome. 
You know, like I'm not saying 

1029
00:54:34,700 --> 00:54:38,700
but I would say, I don't think I
need to update the screener in 

1030
00:54:38,700 --> 00:54:42,400
the sense of if you're taking a 
running back at the one to turn,

1031
00:54:43,300 --> 00:54:46,000
you really should have the 
ability to tilt the, the fantasy

1032
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:50,400
landscape and be that guy who 
you absolutely needed to have. 

1033
00:54:51,900 --> 00:54:53,500
Why you're taking on a ton of 
risk? 

1034
00:54:53,500 --> 00:54:57,800
You're also zigging against a 
market that is drafting wide 

1035
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:02,000
receivers higher than ever. 
And if you move away from that 

1036
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,500
to get a guy who scores you like
16 points per game, that's going

1037
00:55:04,500 --> 00:55:06,400
to really, really hurt this 
year. 

1038
00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:12,300
So I don't think. 
And also, I would say, last 

1039
00:55:12,300 --> 00:55:16,100
year, through 17 Games, Austin 
Eckler, hit the, the legendary 

1040
00:55:16,500 --> 00:55:18,900
threshold. 
So you are still, I believe. 

1041
00:55:18,900 --> 00:55:21,600
Jonathan Taylor did as well 
through 17 games in 2020. 

1042
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,100
One. 
So they exist. 

1043
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:27,500
They're hard to find, but these 
types of seasons do still exist.

1044
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,400
That's fair. 
Let's move on now to the 

1045
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,000
fallers. 
Some guys here to talk about we 

1046
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:38,500
see Jalen hide on year etn. 
Berkeley Davante Adams are all 

1047
00:55:38,500 --> 00:55:40,000
down. 
I wouldn't. 

1048
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,200
I would eat ENB following. 
He's a great guy. 

1049
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:46,700
He's calling a lot. 
It's the puppy XV stuff or maybe

1050
00:55:46,700 --> 00:55:49,900
the poppy, I don't know. 
Yeah, I think it's a in the 

1051
00:55:49,900 --> 00:55:53,300
puppy picks as well. 
The running back has been 

1052
00:55:53,300 --> 00:55:56,600
falling pretty consistently. 
I mean he was, he was like 30. 

1053
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,800
He was going at 30 overall and 
then all that. 

1054
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,700
XB stuff came out and then I 
mean it's been a 10 thick slide 

1055
00:56:02,700 --> 00:56:05,100
over a month. 
I don't I don't think about tank

1056
00:56:05,100 --> 00:56:08,800
Bigsby at all this I just don't 
like e.t. 

1057
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,900
Any Tian is going to do what you
did last year but if he just 

1058
00:56:11,900 --> 00:56:17,400
gets like point, eight targets 
more per game, you know, like 

1059
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:18,700
they start tossing him, some 
skirt. 

1060
00:56:18,700 --> 00:56:20,900
Like I don't know. 
He just also seems to me like 

1061
00:56:20,900 --> 00:56:24,800
he's really good. 
I want to be like ET n versus 

1062
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,400
Gibbs is like not even a 
contest. 

1063
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,800
To me like etn is going to get 
100 more. 

1064
00:56:28,900 --> 00:56:34,100
Touches then Jameer Gibbs. 
I'd rather be jamming Gibbs as 

1065
00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:35,600
well. 
I mean, I don't know, I think 

1066
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,600
it's a little bit like it's not 
completely comparable but it's a

1067
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:44,200
little bit like the charbonnet 
to Ken Walker stuff where people

1068
00:56:44,700 --> 00:56:48,000
I think you know, if you look at
ETS receiving efficiency stuff 

1069
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,900
last year, it wasn't that good. 
And people are saying, oh, 

1070
00:56:50,900 --> 00:56:53,500
thanks Museum to come in and 
take the third down work, that's

1071
00:56:53,500 --> 00:56:56,100
not the body body body catches, 
bro. 

1072
00:56:56,100 --> 00:56:58,000
He body catches and he's got big
foot. 

1073
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,800
Placement is, well, this is a 
big thing on film Twitter. 

1074
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,700
He plants his feet. 
So people are worried, he's 

1075
00:57:03,700 --> 00:57:06,600
gonna get hurt to give the film 
people, some kind of thing about

1076
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,900
them Twitter at all. 
I do you think people 2010, came

1077
00:57:10,900 --> 00:57:13,300
out as a prospect, all the 
spreadsheet people were saying 

1078
00:57:13,300 --> 00:57:16,400
that, he's this unbelievable 
receiving Prospect, you know, 

1079
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:17,700
one of the best we've had in a 
while. 

1080
00:57:17,700 --> 00:57:19,300
And the film people are saying 
is routes. 

1081
00:57:19,300 --> 00:57:20,900
Aren't that good? 
His hands aren't that good? 

1082
00:57:20,900 --> 00:57:24,000
I think they've kind of been 
proven correct in the past. 

1083
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,900
No, no, no, they have. 
They've 100% friend proven 

1084
00:57:26,900 --> 00:57:29,200
correct, but I don't think it 
matters because running back 

1085
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:33,700
targets are so often a valve or 
they are designed And, and you 

1086
00:57:33,700 --> 00:57:37,700
can get, you can get, like, last
year, etn had zero games. 

1087
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:43,100
He had two games with more than 
four targets and he had no games

1088
00:57:43,100 --> 00:57:44,800
with more than 43 receiving 
yards. 

1089
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,400
But they like, they can change 
that so easily. 

1090
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,200
Like they can just drop like two
extra dumb plays damn game or he

1091
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,700
gets a couple extra or if he's 
just on the field for more third

1092
00:57:53,700 --> 00:57:55,200
down. 
I think the main thing with its 

1093
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,700
yen is like his I think is TD 
upside could just be huge this 

1094
00:57:58,700 --> 00:58:00,700
year unless you think they're 
gonna use Bigsby at the goal 

1095
00:58:00,700 --> 00:58:04,400
line which I'm kind of skeptical
of Like he had five touchdowns 

1096
00:58:04,500 --> 00:58:09,400
last year on the Jaguars team, 
like that's pretty bad luck for 

1097
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,800
how good that offense was. 
And, you know, you had Ridley to

1098
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,600
the mix this year. 
If the Jags offense is like a 

1099
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,400
top-five offense to think is in 
its range of outcomes. 

1100
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,800
He could just have a huge touch 
down here and pick 40. 

1101
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,300
I don't know if he catches 30 
balls at pick 40, I guess I 

1102
00:58:23,308 --> 00:58:25,600
don't really care that much. 
Like, you don't necessarily need

1103
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,800
that. 
It would be great if you could 

1104
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,100
catch 50, 60 balls. 
But I don't think you need that 

1105
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,300
when he's going to pick 40. 
It's tough though because you 

1106
00:58:34,300 --> 00:58:36,600
know Jonathan Taylor is falling 
all the way to the end of the 

1107
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,200
second round. 
Now, in a lot of cases or 

1108
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,800
towards the end of the second 
past, the midpoint you've got 

1109
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,000
chub there, you've got Pollard 
there, you've got Henry there. 

1110
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,600
If you want to go that route, 
you can take a wide receiver or,

1111
00:58:49,700 --> 00:58:52,100
you know, quarterback, whatever.
And then coming coming back 

1112
00:58:52,100 --> 00:58:53,800
around. 
You've got all those guys from 

1113
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:58,700
Andre briefs and then you come 
back into the late, fourth and 

1114
00:58:58,700 --> 00:59:02,800
etn sitting there. 
So it's like, what do you It 

1115
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,300
actually because it taking all 
of them is not really on the 

1116
00:59:05,300 --> 00:59:08,100
table right now. 
I've done the three running 

1117
00:59:08,100 --> 00:59:11,600
backs in the first four rounds 
and it is it's not impossible to

1118
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:15,700
dig out of but it is tough. 
So I think that's what's really 

1119
00:59:15,700 --> 00:59:19,000
driving this fall. 
I think if the market is a whole

1120
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,500
shift away from wide receiver, 
little bit, will see etn bounce.

1121
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,800
Bounce back up to the 3/4 turn 
pre, he's making a point packs. 

1122
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,000
I thought I was like, oh I think
I'm in any tiene pick 40. 

1123
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,400
And I just checked my exposure 
to them through 50 drafts and 

1124
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,200
I've literally zero share. 
So I think it's the same. 

1125
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,600
It's the same Dynamic you're 
talking about where the pockets 

1126
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,100
don't literally lineup. 
But I don't know if you go to 

1127
00:59:38,100 --> 00:59:42,200
the end of the fourth, I think, 
you know, right now it's just 

1128
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,200
that I want to take London over 
him. 

1129
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:48,300
I want even Terry McLaren over 
him, but if he gets past those 

1130
00:59:48,300 --> 00:59:52,800
guys, I think I would start to 
have a lot more of him, so we'll

1131
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,900
see if the slide continues. 
It sounds like we think he's 

1132
00:59:55,900 --> 00:59:59,200
officially priced. 
I've got 12. 

1133
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:03,200
I've got twelve percent. 
I think I should have more of 

1134
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,500
them. 
I don't really know why I was 

1135
01:00:04,500 --> 01:00:06,600
you. 
I'm in 130 puppy slow so I don't

1136
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,800
know how much I have I have, I 
know, but he goes down, like a 

1137
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,800
touchdown Beth. 
Where, like you think the Jacks?

1138
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,700
The Jags offense is good and 
they make a lot of Red Zone 

1139
01:00:18,700 --> 01:00:22,700
trips and he gets a good share 
of those touchdowns. 

1140
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,400
Yeah. 
And his success rate last year 

1141
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,100
was actually quite good. 
I think he might be kind of an 

1142
01:00:28,100 --> 01:00:31,000
underrated rushers seen as kind 
of this Breakaway threat, which 

1143
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:35,300
he is He had 263 rush yards over
expected last year which is 

1144
01:00:35,300 --> 01:00:39,800
second only to Nick Chubb had a 
Tony Pollard so that is 

1145
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,300
something he does really well. 
But he's also consistent, he's 

1146
01:00:42,300 --> 01:00:46,700
really talented rusher. 
He finished sixth in success 

1147
01:00:46,700 --> 01:00:48,400
rate last year. 
Just had an actual make sense. 

1148
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,800
He he seems like one of the most
understood or misunderstood 

1149
01:00:51,900 --> 01:00:54,300
running backs in the NFL, where 
I think people in our heads. 

1150
01:00:54,300 --> 01:00:58,200
We think of them as this, like, 
receiving back explosive guy, 

1151
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,800
when he's really, he's been a 
better rusher. 

1152
01:01:01,300 --> 01:01:03,500
I mean, he's nice. 
Opposed to explosive rusher but 

1153
01:01:04,100 --> 01:01:06,600
he really profiles more as a 
better rusher than receive 

1154
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,800
imagine if he works. 
Imagine if he figures out the 

1155
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,900
body catching though like the 
wheels. 

1156
01:01:10,900 --> 01:01:13,800
Imagine if he learned how to 
catch the ball crazy. 

1157
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,400
Yeah, he kind of is couldn't 
have been painted as like, maybe

1158
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,800
like a chimera, but he's more of
like a Dalvin cook. 

1159
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,500
That's I think that's, I think 
that's a great. 

1160
01:01:21,500 --> 01:01:24,400
Let's talk about the range. 
Let's talk about that. 

1161
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,500
Yeah, great segue, he shows up 
and he's now 80th overall. 

1162
01:01:28,500 --> 01:01:31,900
I'm actually kind of surprised. 
He hasn't fallen far. 

1163
01:01:32,100 --> 01:01:35,900
Or I guess the Miami dreams are 
still living on people's heads 

1164
01:01:35,900 --> 01:01:38,300
now. 
But yeah. 

1165
01:01:38,300 --> 01:01:42,300
So I'll say one thing I'm cook. 
I think, you know, people are 

1166
01:01:42,300 --> 01:01:45,200
talking about how he's washed 
and I get that from a lot of the

1167
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,800
rushing statistics that you look
at his age. 

1168
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,300
The totally makes sense. 
One interesting thing that Eric 

1169
01:01:51,300 --> 01:01:56,300
eager, I believe brought up is 
that he's not washed in that his

1170
01:01:56,300 --> 01:01:58,500
speed has less than has left 
him. 

1171
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:02,300
Like he still is showing up as, 
you know, one of the ball 

1172
01:02:02,300 --> 01:02:05,500
carriers on NFL next gen stats. 
I think it was the sixth fastest

1173
01:02:05,500 --> 01:02:08,200
of any Ball Carrier last year. 
So he's not well like I think 

1174
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,800
typically I when I think of guys
is washed, I think of like Zeke,

1175
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,500
like he's got no explosion left.
He just looks done with Dalvin 

1176
01:02:14,500 --> 01:02:15,200
cook. 
Really? 

1177
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:19,200
The problem is, he's not 
breaking tackles anymore, but 

1178
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:20,800
his speed still seems to be 
there. 

1179
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,400
And I think you could make the 
argument that that had to do 

1180
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,200
with his shoulder injury, like 
he's literally playing with like

1181
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:28,900
you know a partially dislocated 
shoulder of the past couple 

1182
01:02:28,900 --> 01:02:30,200
years and that could have 
something to do with it. 

1183
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:34,500
So I don't want to Early rule 
him out if he lands in a good 

1184
01:02:34,500 --> 01:02:37,700
offense in this price stays 
around pick a tea. 

1185
01:02:37,900 --> 01:02:41,600
But you know it seems like the 
outs to him Landing in a good 

1186
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,500
spot or pretty. 
Thin that I don't quite get, you

1187
01:02:44,500 --> 01:02:46,600
know, if he was at pick 100 or 
something, I think I'd be 

1188
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,000
drafting him at pick 80. 
I'm pretty out and I'll wait and

1189
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,100
see in The Landings. 
But, yeah, my big concern is 

1190
01:02:52,100 --> 01:02:53,600
there doesn't seem to be a 
market for him. 

1191
01:02:54,100 --> 01:02:56,200
Like, there's clearly a market 
for nuke. 

1192
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,000
There doesn't seem to be like 
the marker for yeah. 

1193
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,400
Dalvin cook is what if one of 
their other running Inbox get 

1194
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,000
injured and maybe they'll think 
about it at lower money than 

1195
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,100
what he wants. 
Yeah, I think that's a high 

1196
01:03:09,100 --> 01:03:13,000
percent, correct. 
I like looking at the success 

1197
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,300
rate staff from NFL next-gen, a 
lot. 

1198
01:03:15,300 --> 01:03:20,400
And one of the reasons is that I
think I think teams might care 

1199
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:25,200
about this, and he was 
horrendous last year. 

1200
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:30,100
In success rate, he was terrible
Zeke was terrible. 

1201
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:35,200
These are like the worst guys in
the league and the teams just 

1202
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,800
move on from them. 
And so I think like, yeah, You 

1203
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:43,300
can get up to speed if under the
right conditions but if he's not

1204
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:48,400
consistently doing what he's 
supposed to do, he's not like a 

1205
01:03:48,408 --> 01:03:50,700
young fresh set of legs that 
they're going to bring in for 

1206
01:03:50,700 --> 01:03:53,200
explosion plays. 
I don't think like he's he also 

1207
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:54,600
is terrible in Russia has ever 
expected. 

1208
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:59,100
So it turns of explosiveness, he
was quite poor, he finished. 

1209
01:03:59,700 --> 01:04:02,100
Just ahead of James Robinson 
behind Rashad white behind David

1210
01:04:02,100 --> 01:04:03,800
Montgomery and Richard's over 
expected. 

1211
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:05,900
Like, I don't know. 
Yeah, I think he might be 

1212
01:04:05,900 --> 01:04:07,400
washed. 
He still had. 

1213
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,700
Like I think for plays last year
of over 50 yards. 

1214
01:04:10,700 --> 01:04:14,100
So I don't know, I guess it just
like at a certain price. 

1215
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:15,500
We talk about it with Swift, 
right? 

1216
01:04:15,500 --> 01:04:19,100
Like we don't project Swift have
this massive role or even be 

1217
01:04:19,100 --> 01:04:23,800
like that, great at football but
you can break, huge plays on a 

1218
01:04:23,808 --> 01:04:26,100
certain point. 
I think that's still attractive 

1219
01:04:26,100 --> 01:04:28,200
if Coke still has his long 
speed. 

1220
01:04:28,300 --> 01:04:30,300
Now I think it takes the right 
set of conditions, right? 

1221
01:04:30,300 --> 01:04:33,900
Like if he's on the Dolphins I 
think I would take him at pick a

1222
01:04:33,900 --> 01:04:38,200
tea if he's on the box. 
I'm not taking a pic 80, right? 

1223
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:42,600
So I don't want anything in that
like the team that he could 

1224
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:46,400
ultimately won with could 
absolutely crush this value. 

1225
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:51,900
So, yeah, the fact that there's 
no Market firm like what if he 

1226
01:04:51,900 --> 01:04:55,900
like everyone's with like the 
Texans or like one of these like

1227
01:04:55,900 --> 01:05:00,100
really split backfield with like
he wants to get paid, which is 

1228
01:05:00,100 --> 01:05:02,700
another major concern for us, 
right? 

1229
01:05:02,700 --> 01:05:05,000
Like he's not a Leonard, 
fournette situation. 

1230
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:09,200
Where if Most job opens up like 
I feel like for Nats going to 

1231
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:14,100
like fly to Cincinnati and just 
be like sign me dudes but cook 

1232
01:05:14,100 --> 01:05:17,000
isn't going to do that. 
Cook wants to get paid so he I 

1233
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,500
think has higher odds of Landing
somewhere grows higher odds of 

1234
01:05:19,500 --> 01:05:22,300
Landing somewhere with an 
established starter. 

1235
01:05:22,300 --> 01:05:25,000
You know, that he thinks he can 
compete with or something, you 

1236
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,700
know, I don't know. 
It just doesn't seem like he's 

1237
01:05:27,700 --> 01:05:30,200
going to end up in like a clean 
situation. 

1238
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,700
Given that thing, that the thing
I didn't pay him right away, 

1239
01:05:33,700 --> 01:05:36,100
right? 
The thing that seems not great 

1240
01:05:36,100 --> 01:05:39,800
about signing with the dolphins,
is it feels like a chain would 

1241
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:44,200
be a better version and a 
version they paid for, you know,

1242
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,500
the third round pick of what 
theoretically cook can still do 

1243
01:05:47,500 --> 01:05:50,500
which is like going in a 
straight line really quickly. 

1244
01:05:51,100 --> 01:05:54,100
I think one of those guys has to
get hurt from Miami for the 

1245
01:05:54,100 --> 01:05:58,600
Dolphins to sign Delvin. 
Like idea, they need one or two 

1246
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:02,100
of their running backs, get 
injured, forgot the ha Open and 

1247
01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:05,600
the book, I think what he's 
playing for what it seems like 

1248
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,600
he's playing for is one of these
more old school, in mind the 

1249
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:12,100
teams at that. 
Like once the pay running backs 

1250
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,800
and has one go down and I'll 
shit. 

1251
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,500
We, we need, we need our start 
running back. 

1252
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,100
Let's pay dominate million 
dollars or something. 

1253
01:06:22,100 --> 01:06:24,800
Like, I don't even well, I don't
even know what the good outcomes

1254
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:28,400
from that are ya and the 
dolphin. 

1255
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,200
See, I don't, I think the 
Dolphins interest and maybe I'm 

1256
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,700
wrong about this. 
Someone can send me a link, but 

1257
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:37,100
I think this is like, Dalvin 
generated hype of him going the 

1258
01:06:37,107 --> 01:06:40,000
Dolphins if it is photos, 
there's no like reports that 

1259
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,200
showing all the dolphins are 
interested in Dalvin cook. 

1260
01:06:42,300 --> 01:06:45,700
I haven't seen that at least so 
that's why these like Wilson and

1261
01:06:45,700 --> 01:06:48,300
moster prices and even a Shane's
falling. 

1262
01:06:48,300 --> 01:06:51,300
Like I know people are, I get, 
why people are scared to draft? 

1263
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,800
Them. 
But a like I don't think the 

1264
01:06:54,808 --> 01:06:56,700
Dolphins stuff is as likely as 
the market. 

1265
01:06:56,700 --> 01:06:59,800
Thanks for Dalvin and B, I don't
know. 

1266
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:01,500
Jeff Wilson Ramos are just 
strike me. 

1267
01:07:01,500 --> 01:07:05,400
As you know, guys, that it might
not be on the Dolphins this 

1268
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,600
year, but they're gonna find a 
way to a backfield once injuries

1269
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,300
happen and like get you some 
point like Jeff Wilson is just 

1270
01:07:11,300 --> 01:07:14,100
like the new Tevin Coleman where
he's just going to show up on 

1271
01:07:14,100 --> 01:07:16,500
like the 49ers this year and 
week 8 and have three 

1272
01:07:16,500 --> 01:07:20,100
touchdowns, right? 
Like he's a capable like NFL 

1273
01:07:20,100 --> 01:07:22,800
running back. 
Isn't that different to me than 

1274
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,300
the fournette? 
That honestly, at pick 190. 

1275
01:07:25,300 --> 01:07:28,100
We're like, I don't know if he's
on the Dolphins, but I don't 

1276
01:07:28,100 --> 01:07:31,000
think he's getting paid 2 
million guaranteed this year to 

1277
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,700
be the Dolphins 4th string. 
Running back if they sign Dalvin

1278
01:07:33,700 --> 01:07:35,900
cook, like the whole find a way 
to be relevant. 

1279
01:07:35,900 --> 01:07:40,300
So, I still like those guys. 
My issue with those guys is that

1280
01:07:40,300 --> 01:07:43,200
if Cook signs there, they're 
going to be completely free. 

1281
01:07:43,700 --> 01:07:47,000
So it's been tough for me to 
draft them, but they are getting

1282
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:48,700
to the point where they're like 
they're close to completely 

1283
01:07:48,700 --> 01:07:50,200
free. 
Yeah, I guess I'm not only 

1284
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,700
taking moster but we'll sin is 
getting to the point where it's 

1285
01:07:52,700 --> 01:07:54,100
now I getting an eighteenth 
round. 

1286
01:07:54,100 --> 01:07:56,400
Now I'm like yeah. 
See I think that's totally 

1287
01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:00,200
better than Chase brown or 
someone who can raise be a 

1288
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:04,400
complete zero. 
All right. 

1289
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:08,000
Any other fallers here? 
I guess the Berkeley one. 

1290
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,000
Like do we? 
I don't see any serious. 

1291
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,400
Hold out risk with Berkeley so 
I'm kind of hand waving why not?

1292
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,600
We can because I don't think he 
has any leverage. 

1293
01:08:18,300 --> 01:08:21,300
I think that it would be great 
for him if they can negotiate. 

1294
01:08:21,399 --> 01:08:23,600
Oh, she ate like a two or 
three-year deal, where he gets 

1295
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,300
some guaranteed money and like 
maybe they have some kind of 

1296
01:08:26,500 --> 01:08:28,500
situation there, but I don't 
know. 

1297
01:08:28,500 --> 01:08:34,500
Like, we've seen with the 
Le'Veon Bell situation that it 

1298
01:08:34,500 --> 01:08:36,700
just this Holding Out for 
running backs, really, doesn't 

1299
01:08:36,700 --> 01:08:38,500
work. 
And I just be, I'd be shocked if

1300
01:08:38,500 --> 01:08:41,899
Berkeley thought that that was 
his best route. 

1301
01:08:41,899 --> 01:08:44,600
The only thing, the only thing 
about Bell did get offers from 

1302
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,899
the Steelers that were better 
than what's probably on the 

1303
01:08:47,899 --> 01:08:53,399
table for Berkeley now. 
So like, The only like the big, 

1304
01:08:53,399 --> 01:08:56,399
I think the big thing for him is
that like he could just wait 

1305
01:08:56,600 --> 01:09:00,800
until the deadline the sign. 
And if he still hasn't signed by

1306
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:04,899
that point, then maybe he's 
like, maybe he's cheaper than 

1307
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:07,800
Yeah. 
See that. 

1308
01:09:08,399 --> 01:09:11,600
Yeah, I just think of these hold
out situations and maybe maybe 

1309
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,200
it's a bad take is like maybe 
his price will continue to fall.

1310
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:18,200
So I should, I should wait, but 
like, one of the times the 

1311
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,899
amount of times that the guy 
who's threatening to hold out. 

1312
01:09:20,899 --> 01:09:26,100
Actually folds out is like 1% 
and we remember those but like 

1313
01:09:26,100 --> 01:09:28,700
this your Lamar you got crazy 
discounts in the Marge acts and 

1314
01:09:28,700 --> 01:09:31,399
this year when the whole time I 
was just like what's the 

1315
01:09:31,399 --> 01:09:34,500
precedent of a you know Elite 
quarterback just sitting out for

1316
01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:36,899
a season it just doesn't, it 
feels It could happen the 

1317
01:09:36,899 --> 01:09:40,500
moment, but like it's basically 
the veon Bell run match our. 

1318
01:09:40,500 --> 01:09:44,800
If I'm not wearing my shoes, the
Chargers guy, Melvin Gordon, 

1319
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,399
Melvin Gordon, didn't he? 
Hold out until like, the Ford 

1320
01:09:47,399 --> 01:09:48,399
game or some? 
Yeah. 

1321
01:09:48,700 --> 01:09:51,700
Yeah, well instant, ignition 
Jackson. 

1322
01:09:51,700 --> 01:09:55,400
Vincent Jackson once held out 
ten games, as the last one I 

1323
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,100
can. 
Remember of a guy he's holding 

1324
01:09:57,100 --> 01:09:58,700
out for a long time in coming 
back. 

1325
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:03,700
Yeah, you guys have any concern 
about him like Berkeley not 

1326
01:10:03,700 --> 01:10:06,200
being as kind of like explosive 
last year. 

1327
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,300
Do ya? 
He's just not very good anymore.

1328
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,200
Yeah. 
Like given the the one to tell 

1329
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,200
our story to treat turn price or
mid s. 

1330
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:20,800
They're like that's my big issue
that's been wet for me. 

1331
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,700
I'm like why wouldn't I kind of 
take this discount and try to 

1332
01:10:23,700 --> 01:10:26,200
push this discount? 
I, I believe my start was. 

1333
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,800
I went cup. 
Berkeley was sitting there, you 

1334
01:10:28,808 --> 01:10:32,400
know, correlation right? 
I took JT instead and then 

1335
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:36,500
Berkeley came back around in the
third and like, once that Ins 

1336
01:10:36,500 --> 01:10:39,700
once I'm like I kind of want to 
see if this happens every time 

1337
01:10:39,700 --> 01:10:42,400
like I why why am I think I'm 
done taking second round 

1338
01:10:42,700 --> 01:10:45,400
Berkeley with cup now and maybe 
I think a couple more of these 

1339
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,400
third-round Barclays that feels 
way more fun. 

1340
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,800
Yeah, I also this this Davante 
Adams fall. 

1341
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:53,900
Dude, I don't care if Brian 
Hoyer is playing quarterback 

1342
01:10:53,900 --> 01:10:57,600
with him. 
I'm I take I take I take atoms 

1343
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,500
like every time he's at the top 
of the queue, I like Adams a 

1344
01:11:00,508 --> 01:11:02,700
lot. 
I want to mention with Berkeley 

1345
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:07,900
that I was looking into some of 
his Advanced stats last week and

1346
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:12,500
it is interesting how he does 
kind of profiles, volume 

1347
01:11:12,500 --> 01:11:15,600
dependent now, you know, and it 
on the Giants. 

1348
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,400
Like who's going to challenge 
him for, that volume. 

1349
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:20,300
Probably no one. 
But his success rate has been 

1350
01:11:20,300 --> 01:11:23,000
pretty poor which has been 
something that look out for in 

1351
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,500
terms of goal line 
opportunities. 

1352
01:11:26,500 --> 01:11:28,500
Again no one's really there to 
steal it from him so he's 

1353
01:11:28,500 --> 01:11:32,200
probably got that locked down 
but his yards per outrun last 

1354
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:36,800
year was a career-low 0.94. 
That was worse than not. 

1355
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:41,400
She Harris is a rookie. 
He had 1.02 the year before 

1356
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,700
which was again, not good. 
So he early in his career he was

1357
01:11:45,700 --> 01:11:48,600
like a pretty impressive. 
Receiver 1.53. 

1358
01:11:48,700 --> 01:11:51,800
As a rookie, pretty impressive. 
But he has not really been an 

1359
01:11:51,808 --> 01:11:53,800
impressive receiver of the last 
two seasons. 

1360
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,200
I just like he kind of makes you
start to make me a little 

1361
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:01,600
nervous, like I don't think he's
washed the way he is, but he's 

1362
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,900
makes models. 
Someone is someone is a someone 

1363
01:12:04,900 --> 01:12:07,600
is yes, a Kwanzaa bonding and 
the background there. 

1364
01:12:08,100 --> 01:12:11,800
And I think one thing is this 
top side case, our God God 

1365
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:15,500
Connor one thing at this is like
more, like human side. 

1366
01:12:15,500 --> 01:12:19,300
Me tilting, I had Sake, One 
Berkeley going into week 17 in 

1367
01:12:19,300 --> 01:12:22,100
the finals last year and the 
Giants scored. 

1368
01:12:22,100 --> 01:12:24,800
I think like the scored like 
five goal line touchdown. 

1369
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:29,400
And he didn't get any of them. 
I was so mad. 

1370
01:12:30,900 --> 01:12:36,200
Who did, who did just remember 
the Bellinger and ran a Nobel in

1371
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:39,200
Germ? 
At Breda, you know, just right. 

1372
01:12:39,700 --> 01:12:41,600
Lawrence confound our back in 
there? 

1373
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,000
Damn. 
I guess what you want to do? 

1374
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,700
You want a bag, defend you Jus 
here. 

1375
01:12:46,900 --> 01:12:48,900
I actually do have some juicy 
stuff later. 

1376
01:12:48,900 --> 01:12:51,800
But let me bat, let me beg the 
friend Berkeley first. 

1377
01:12:53,300 --> 01:12:56,500
I think with Berkeley Eat the 
cake and I get that is 

1378
01:12:56,500 --> 01:12:58,200
efficiency metrics were down 
last year. 

1379
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:04,400
You know, looking at PFF rushing
grade, he was still top 15 in 

1380
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:08,600
that and I think there is this 
element with the Giants where, 

1381
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,800
when their best, you know, 
passively weapons are Richie 

1382
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:15,400
James and Darius Slayton that 
the offense can pretty much just

1383
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,800
Zone in on Sake. 
One Berkeley is like really the 

1384
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:19,800
only offensive threat and that 
entire offense. 

1385
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,800
So the Giants offense wasn't 
terrible last year, but there's 

1386
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,200
certainly a lot of room for 
improvement. 

1387
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:28,700
So I can see Barclays efficiency
just being a lot better next 

1388
01:13:28,700 --> 01:13:33,000
year, if offenses is more 
capable and again, like I'm more

1389
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:37,300
open to these like this guy is 
washed or falling off arguments.

1390
01:13:37,300 --> 01:13:40,600
If there's a legitimate threat 
in the backfield, and they've 

1391
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,000
done absolutely nothing to 
address that. 

1392
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:47,100
So, I don't know. 
That 3 does not walking into 10 

1393
01:13:47,100 --> 01:13:51,800
touches a game or no, whoever 
placed in greatest. 

1394
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:56,400
Is that all that good? 
I mean, it's out of 100 backsies

1395
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,200
top 15. 
So, I don't know. 

1396
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:03,800
Like, and it's hard to say to 
tree turn, like It's I do. 

1397
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:07,700
Like, I do want to defend bark a
little bit as well, just in 

1398
01:14:07,700 --> 01:14:10,300
terms of his rushing ability, 
like he, he's not a very 

1399
01:14:10,300 --> 01:14:13,600
consistent rusher, but he is 
still a breakaway threat. 

1400
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:18,000
Like unlike Dalvin cook, who was
- and rush yards over expected 

1401
01:14:18,100 --> 01:14:20,800
last year, which is pretty 
concerning. 

1402
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,000
If you know, he's supposed to 
still be a breakaway guy. 

1403
01:14:23,500 --> 01:14:27,100
Barkley, was not Berkeley was 
sixth in the NFL in rushing 

1404
01:14:27,100 --> 01:14:29,400
yards over expected, just behind
just Jacobs. 

1405
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,700
He was ahead of Derrick Henry 
like Like I think that part of 

1406
01:14:34,700 --> 01:14:37,600
his game still appears to be 
there for him. 

1407
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:41,000
Like he's going to rip off some 
long runs and yeah, who's going 

1408
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:42,400
to who's going to eat into his 
workload? 

1409
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,500
Like but I do think, you know, 
if he's if you're like how much 

1410
01:14:45,500 --> 01:14:47,600
is this guy really contributing 
to our offense? 

1411
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:52,400
Like how Dynamic is he really? 
You know that those questions 

1412
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,600
are probably in the minds of Joe
Shane right now, you know, like 

1413
01:14:55,608 --> 01:15:00,100
it doesn't make me feel great. 
Like I would love him to be in 

1414
01:15:00,100 --> 01:15:01,400
the absolute prime of his 
career. 

1415
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:05,100
If he's on a Standoff with his 
team, right? 

1416
01:15:06,500 --> 01:15:08,900
Yeah, I think the quotes, I 
mean, if you listen to Berkeley 

1417
01:15:08,900 --> 01:15:12,100
quill it's like it's a very it's
not like I'm gonna hold out, I'm

1418
01:15:12,100 --> 01:15:14,300
demanding more money. 
He's like please, it would be 

1419
01:15:14,300 --> 01:15:16,800
nice sir. 
Like I maybe got paid a little 

1420
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:21,200
bit, like it's not like, it 
doesn't sound contentious or 

1421
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:24,100
confrontational, imagine how 
shitty it is for Berkeley that, 

1422
01:15:24,100 --> 01:15:27,500
that, that gettleman got fired 
before. 

1423
01:15:27,500 --> 01:15:34,400
He was up for a contract since 
ago, gave him five years 

1424
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:38,100
eighteen million You know, per 
year, fully guaranteed no team 

1425
01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:40,400
out, he would have gotten, he 
would have gotten the biggest 

1426
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,400
running back contract in the 
modern NFL, you're completely 

1427
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:45,400
right? 
All right. 

1428
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:49,800
Should we talk to Dad for a boy?
I mean dude, it's like 

1429
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,500
everything that could possibly 
be a disaster for him is a 

1430
01:15:52,508 --> 01:15:54,900
disaster. 
He's hurt Kendrick, born is 

1431
01:15:54,900 --> 01:15:56,900
playing his position. 
They're trying to sign DeAndre 

1432
01:15:56,900 --> 01:15:59,200
Hopkins. 
They're eliminating his position

1433
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:01,200
from the offense with with 
kiseki. 

1434
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:05,100
Anyways. 
It's just like every possible 

1435
01:16:05,700 --> 01:16:09,200
thing is being like this guy 
should be drafted after run do 

1436
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,000
more and he's yeah, why isn't 
he? 

1437
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:13,600
Why would you take them over on,
do more. 

1438
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:17,700
Because Clayton Tunes not a 
starting quarterback. 

1439
01:16:17,700 --> 01:16:21,000
What, what I this is what I 
don't get, was that last year. 

1440
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,000
I'm sitting here on Jeju Island,
right? 

1441
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,500
Like, no, he's actually still be
like, he was good in the playoff

1442
01:16:26,500 --> 01:16:28,400
game. 
He was never it was never as 

1443
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:32,400
good as its Ben's follows. 
Yeah, I just don't. 

1444
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:36,300
It's like the thing that really 
got me to be like I'm actually 

1445
01:16:36,300 --> 01:16:39,000
not re-evaluating my stance. 
I'm not going to be Bayesian 

1446
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,300
here. 
Is that this knee injury that he

1447
01:16:41,300 --> 01:16:44,600
suffered in like week 10 last 
year is still bothering him. 

1448
01:16:44,700 --> 01:16:47,600
I'm that guy like slot wide 
receiver with the knee injury, 

1449
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:51,200
still bothering him six months 
later, strikes me as a. 

1450
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,700
And I think the only reason he 
is is ATP, is even here is 

1451
01:16:55,700 --> 01:16:59,000
because he goes in a Range where
wide receiver is dead. 

1452
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,300
I mean, why did like it's? 
So it's just people who have 

1453
01:17:01,300 --> 01:17:04,300
three wide receivers and round 
nine around 10 and they're like,

1454
01:17:04,300 --> 01:17:06,000
I got to get another wide 
receiver. 

1455
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:09,600
I agree with, like, pretty much 
all he said, and I actually, 

1456
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:10,900
I'll give my. 
Did you take? 

1457
01:17:10,900 --> 01:17:14,600
I'm definitely not above Market 
on Juju, agree with you, David. 

1458
01:17:14,700 --> 01:17:18,000
It's a range where wide 
receivers are getting pushed up 

1459
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:21,300
because teams are desperate for 
a wide receiver. 

1460
01:17:21,300 --> 01:17:23,700
There's been a huge drop off 
before that point. 

1461
01:17:24,100 --> 01:17:28,500
I just think that like with Juju
or punishing him for unrealistic

1462
01:17:28,500 --> 01:17:33,700
high expectations last year when
he's basically always been the 

1463
01:17:33,700 --> 01:17:37,100
same player of a wide receiver 
was very good at feeding zone. 

1464
01:17:37,100 --> 01:17:40,800
Defense has, he can't go out and
beat man and went down the field

1465
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:42,600
like we thought he could early 
in his career. 

1466
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:44,600
He look at his metrics from 
last. 

1467
01:17:44,700 --> 01:17:48,100
Year and it's just like a fine 
competent wide receiver, like 

1468
01:17:48,100 --> 01:17:51,900
yards for outrun 1.7. 
That's 36 of 100 qualifying 

1469
01:17:51,900 --> 01:17:54,500
receivers 18% targets for 
outrun. 

1470
01:17:54,500 --> 01:17:57,700
That's, you know, similar range 
to someone like IU and Pittman 

1471
01:17:58,500 --> 01:18:01,000
PFF. 
Receiving grade 39th out of 100 

1472
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:06,000
qualifying receivers, then have 
PPR points 9.1 again, 30:38 that

1473
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:11,000
of 100 or so receivers. 
So he's just a guy and he's 

1474
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:16,000
being drafted as wide receiver, 
50 as being Hello. 

1475
01:18:16,100 --> 01:18:18,900
Just a guy and again it's not a 
range where I want to Target 

1476
01:18:18,900 --> 01:18:22,000
wide receivers. 
I think the the biggest thing is

1477
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:26,200
the health if we're concerned 
about his health then I think he

1478
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:30,000
should fall and not be drafted. 
But I think like the juju sucks 

1479
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:33,100
thing is just a little overblown
because we were so hyped on and 

1480
01:18:33,100 --> 01:18:36,800
last year and he was just fine. 
And like I didn't take really 

1481
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:40,000
any of JuJu last year is 
completely out and must be is he

1482
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,700
nice must be nice. 
Tell you when does suck, he does

1483
01:18:42,700 --> 01:18:44,500
husky nice to wear those really 
in doubt. 

1484
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,000
I'd ever taken me Rollin on 
duty. 

1485
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:50,800
Shit, poops are in Sky more. 
Hey, I was it on Sky War. 

1486
01:18:51,300 --> 01:18:55,700
I wasn't at 20 percent Target 
for at run those sound like like

1487
01:18:55,700 --> 01:18:57,900
there's something there. 
Did you say 18 though? 

1488
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,300
18 is not good. 
It seems It's a 18, like it how 

1489
01:19:01,300 --> 01:19:05,200
it probably depends on the, the 
society we're out of it. 

1490
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:11,200
No idiot, 18, 18 percent from 
from PFF, including the playoff 

1491
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,900
games. 
But yeah, again, 34 round Is a 

1492
01:19:14,900 --> 01:19:17,800
stat where you want to factor in
a DOT to some degree. 

1493
01:19:18,300 --> 01:19:20,400
Because, you know, what is a 
target Worth? 

1494
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,500
Right? 
Like a JuJu Target with an eight

1495
01:19:22,500 --> 01:19:26,100
out of seven point one, which 
was His Highest. 

1496
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:31,600
Since 2019 is not worth a ton in
terms of yards, after catch the 

1497
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,000
way. 
You know, he's been as of an 

1498
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,800
explosive since like a second 
year in the league. 

1499
01:19:37,100 --> 01:19:40,600
So if you're not learning 
targets at a high rate like with

1500
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:45,200
an 8 out of 7.1, I want to 
Target spur outrun of like Sent 

1501
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,200
the I don't want to be dealing 
with anybody under 20%. 

1502
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:52,200
There, it's just you can't your 
seven yards down field and you 

1503
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,400
can turn targets at any kind of 
a high rate. 

1504
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:55,700
Your learning targets like, a 
tight end. 

1505
01:19:55,700 --> 01:19:58,500
Like to me, I think he does 
suck. 

1506
01:19:58,500 --> 01:20:01,400
I think he can do a certain 
thing for your offense. 

1507
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,600
Sometimes, get open in the short
area the field. 

1508
01:20:04,900 --> 01:20:09,100
But as soon as someone else, 
either emerges, or signs with 

1509
01:20:09,100 --> 01:20:15,100
Hopkins, they're like he just he
has no real chance of Volume, 

1510
01:20:15,100 --> 01:20:18,400
it's all just dependent on is 
there literally, no one else is 

1511
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,300
he just kind of the one guy they
can? 

1512
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,000
They can feed targets to 
underneath and in an inefficient

1513
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:27,500
offense and one of the things 
was before when he was like a 

1514
01:20:27,500 --> 01:20:32,200
couple years ago, was that he 
did score touchdowns like yeah, 

1515
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,600
that is true. 
Definitely small sample size, 

1516
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,200
but treat touchdowns for the 
Kansas City Chiefs. 

1517
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:41,900
Last year is really bad. 
Well, look, they got to run 

1518
01:20:41,900 --> 01:20:44,300
their, you know, their 
Merry-Go-Round play and like 

1519
01:20:44,300 --> 01:20:46,400
hand. 
It off the Michael Burton like 

1520
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:50,700
they're, you know, it's an 
excuse to score touchdowns. 

1521
01:20:50,900 --> 01:20:53,300
Yes, but they are not, thank you
very much sounds. 

1522
01:20:53,300 --> 01:20:55,700
And the fact that he only got 
treat them isn't great. 

1523
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:59,600
I mean, even Sky more even Sky 
more scored one by accident in 

1524
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,500
the Super Bowl. 
So I do think like, I mean, just

1525
01:21:02,500 --> 01:21:05,100
could jujube switch spots with 
Sony, like twice and just been 

1526
01:21:05,100 --> 01:21:07,800
like, hey Darius you actually go
stand over there. 

1527
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,600
Like, in the Huddle, Juju is 
submarine Canary? 

1528
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:12,600
Sony, because he doesn't know 
where he's supposed to be a Jew.

1529
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,700
Jew wants to touch down, so he 
goes in Wasn't the lineup in the

1530
01:21:15,700 --> 01:21:19,900
wrong spot. 
Juju what we learned is Juju has

1531
01:21:19,900 --> 01:21:23,200
no dog is no willingness to 
steal stats from his teammates, 

1532
01:21:24,700 --> 01:21:29,300
sad. 
Yeah you know he's not he's not 

1533
01:21:29,300 --> 01:21:31,000
a great pick. 
This injury thing is the is 

1534
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:35,200
probably the most concerning 
part but we'll see, we'll see 

1535
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,300
what Hopkins stuff I do. 
Agree with Hopkins signs. 

1536
01:21:37,300 --> 01:21:42,400
There he's dropping to probably 
like 130 140 so that's where I 

1537
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,100
would leave. 
Yeah, you might as well at 

1538
01:21:44,100 --> 01:21:45,900
least. 
Wait, that out with that. 

1539
01:21:45,900 --> 01:21:49,100
You guys have you guys psyop to 
yourself into taking DeVante 

1540
01:21:49,100 --> 01:21:51,100
Parker yet? 
Just below with the logic of 

1541
01:21:51,100 --> 01:21:53,300
like he's just starting wide 
receiver in the NFL and he's 

1542
01:21:53,300 --> 01:21:56,000
there in the eighteenth round. 
I was literally about to sign up

1543
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,400
myself until the Hopkins stuff 
came along. 

1544
01:21:59,300 --> 01:22:01,100
Yeah. 
Oh, that actually made me sigh 

1545
01:22:01,100 --> 01:22:02,400
up myself. 
He was, he won't. 

1546
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:04,300
Yeah, he's gonna he won't be 
affected. 

1547
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,000
I don't think, I don't think he 
would be affected. 

1548
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,300
I think. 
He'd still be the boundary guy. 

1549
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,100
I think they might be the 
boundary guy. 

1550
01:22:14,500 --> 01:22:18,000
I think either Parker either. 
So he pointed toward either 

1551
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:19,800
Parker. 
Born is probably going to get if

1552
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,000
they signed if they signed 
DeAndre Hopkins. 

1553
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:23,700
Like tae, kwon Thornton is not 
happening. 

1554
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:26,300
You don't think Jordan would 
play over Parker. 

1555
01:22:26,900 --> 01:22:30,200
I think Bill loves his bats and 
I think we've also sigh opt 

1556
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,200
ourself with Thornton honest to 
God. 

1557
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,800
I think the fantasy Community 
has co-opted themself in a 

1558
01:22:34,808 --> 01:22:38,100
Thornton for three reasons. 
First reason, he was never 

1559
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,100
expensive on DraftKings, so he 
was always easy to get in there.

1560
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,900
Second reason he scored two 
touchdowns in a second game. 

1561
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:47,500
And people remember that and he 
was on your team and his points 

1562
01:22:47,500 --> 01:22:49,900
counted. 
And I think, if you remove any 

1563
01:22:49,900 --> 01:22:54,200
of those three factors, he's, 
he's cheaper and people care 

1564
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:58,100
less about him. 
Yeah, the other thing about 

1565
01:22:58,100 --> 01:23:01,700
Parker is that he's somebody who
literally, like, I hate find the

1566
01:23:01,700 --> 01:23:04,100
injury game but like he is 
somebody who is literally, I was

1567
01:23:04,100 --> 01:23:10,200
injured, literally always, yeah.
So that could serve could be the

1568
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:14,900
out for for what's-his-name man 
called one already. 

1569
01:23:14,900 --> 01:23:16,300
Forgot his name. 
All right. 

1570
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,300
I'm very bad with names so 
that's maybe not. 

1571
01:23:20,300 --> 01:23:25,000
Oh yeah, the thing with tae kwon
is he's now going in the Jaden 

1572
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:26,100
read. 
Marvin Nims. 

1573
01:23:26,300 --> 01:23:29,200
Range. 
And why would I take a guy was a

1574
01:23:29,208 --> 01:23:32,200
second-round pick in the NFL, 
who, I know was bad. 

1575
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,600
As a rookie verse, a guy who was
a second-round pick in that a 

1576
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:36,600
fellow, who might be good with 
reading men. 

1577
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:41,200
So he was, he was pretty bad as 
a rookie was really bad there to

1578
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:45,100
say, yeah. 
So I think the price, I don't 

1579
01:23:45,100 --> 01:23:46,900
know, at this point. 
I think Thornton's fine, he when

1580
01:23:46,900 --> 01:23:53,100
he was 18th round free, I liked 
it but now I don't know. 

1581
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,700
I'm not really taking them. 
Let's talk, let's talk some 

1582
01:23:55,700 --> 01:23:59,200
Stacks. 
Connor curious what you how 

1583
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:02,700
you've been approaching your 
best ball drafts. 

1584
01:24:02,900 --> 01:24:06,800
This offseason, we're looking 
here at week, 17 game Stacks 

1585
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:09,300
with the most expensive teams on
the left. 

1586
01:24:09,300 --> 01:24:12,200
Kansas City Cincinnati? 
All the way to Tennessee to 

1587
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,900
Houston. 
Is there a particular week 17 

1588
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:17,300
game stack that you're 
targeting? 

1589
01:24:17,300 --> 01:24:20,700
Are you even thinking about week
17 as much as everyone else 

1590
01:24:20,900 --> 01:24:23,500
curious? 
How your eye. 

1591
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,800
I mean, I never, I never go into
the draft. 

1592
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,700
It was like, oh, hey, these are 
the, these are the stocks that I

1593
01:24:29,700 --> 01:24:32,800
want. 
I try to like, let it fall into 

1594
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:37,900
place a little bit, and but I do
find that the one that I'm 

1595
01:24:37,900 --> 01:24:40,700
stacking up. 
The most is the Washington, a 

1596
01:24:40,700 --> 01:24:44,800
San Francisco game and just 
Because I think there are 

1597
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:48,600
actually, there is actually 
quite a lot of good players in 

1598
01:24:48,700 --> 01:24:52,300
that in that game. 
It's so easy and ADP to get that

1599
01:24:52,300 --> 01:24:54,700
gift and they all they all just 
fall together. 

1600
01:24:54,900 --> 01:24:58,200
You know, you take, you take 
McLaren then you take iuq. 

1601
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:01,300
No, you take dots. 
And then to fix later, you take 

1602
01:25:01,300 --> 01:25:04,500
you lied Mitchell. 
It just it just Falls and I am a

1603
01:25:04,500 --> 01:25:08,000
healt router. 
So like I do think he was really

1604
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,700
good in college and definitely 
encouraged by his start last 

1605
01:25:11,700 --> 01:25:16,800
year and So that's the one where
I'm like, oh that that one feels

1606
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:22,000
like 22 teams. 
Where if you get them right? 

1607
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:25,000
It really elevates your team in 
the regular season truth to the 

1608
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,000
playoffs. 
And then could be could be a 

1609
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:31,100
barn burner. 
And and then the rest of them 

1610
01:25:32,900 --> 01:25:37,000
kind of what I do is just some 
kind of combination of like a 

1611
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:42,200
teepee value and like we're at 
where I think guys are good like

1612
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:46,300
earlier rounds and then I just 
try to fill out the blanks and 

1613
01:25:46,500 --> 01:25:50,600
made like rounds after that. 
Like on the why? 

1614
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:52,200
No, that's not okay. 
Sorry. 

1615
01:25:53,500 --> 01:25:59,400
No, no go ahead on the 
Washington, 49ers game, I love 

1616
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:02,000
that one too. 
I've said my piece on how so I 

1617
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:05,600
won't dive in hand, but I would 
encourage people to play that 

1618
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:09,300
through Purdy right now because 
I don't think that his price is 

1619
01:26:09,300 --> 01:26:12,700
going to last you know, you can 
get him still, the 14th round, 

1620
01:26:12,700 --> 01:26:16,600
pretty much every time that's a 
reach but it's like kind of one 

1621
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:18,800
of those ranges where you're 
like I'll lock this up, secure 

1622
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:23,200
it 14:15 around. 
Purdy feels like We're going to 

1623
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,500
Trend away from that, right? 
I think so. 

1624
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,300
Like once there's more 
confidence, he's the starter. 

1625
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,900
I mean, I think people are 
already assuming how was the 

1626
01:26:31,907 --> 01:26:35,200
starter and he's been hovering 
around, pick 200 for a while. 

1627
01:26:35,500 --> 01:26:37,800
Whereas I think there's still 
people who believe Lance is 

1628
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,900
gonna come in and when that job 
still gets drafted. 

1629
01:26:40,900 --> 01:26:43,300
So, Lance. 
Lance gets rough to the Head. 

1630
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:49,100
I think it's fluttering its 
flipped recently, but that was, 

1631
01:26:49,100 --> 01:26:53,100
there's definitely, I mean bra, 
there was people drafting Trail 

1632
01:26:53,100 --> 01:26:56,800
and sit like thick 90 in 
February and March, I'm aware. 

1633
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:58,600
Yeah, I remember that. 
I love tried. 

1634
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:02,500
We tried to warn them against 
that when I didn't, I didn't I 

1635
01:27:02,500 --> 01:27:06,600
didn't, I told them, I told 
them, I told them you can and 

1636
01:27:10,300 --> 01:27:13,500
yeah, you never know. 
You could, you could, you know, 

1637
01:27:13,500 --> 01:27:14,800
we're in the famous words of 
David. 

1638
01:27:14,900 --> 01:27:16,900
Kitchen. 
You know, you just never know. 

1639
01:27:17,100 --> 01:27:22,000
You just never know. 
Yeah, anything else. 

1640
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:27,900
So the one thing that that jumps
out to me, here is the Chargers 

1641
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,800
Denver game getting getting more
expensive and now is the second 

1642
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,400
most expensive game after Casey 
sent Cincinnati. 

1643
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,600
It's not like a huge difference,
right? 

1644
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:40,800
Basically every game from 
Chargers to Denver all the way 

1645
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:42,400
through, I don't know. 
Washington. 

1646
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:47,300
San Francisco is like similarly 
priced but It does strike me. 

1647
01:27:47,300 --> 01:27:49,300
I just, I don't know. 
I think I get flashbacks to 

1648
01:27:49,300 --> 01:27:51,500
Casey Denver last year and all 
the Denver Stacks. 

1649
01:27:51,500 --> 01:27:55,400
I was building that were 
starting to believe in Denver 

1650
01:27:55,400 --> 01:28:00,100
again is is maybe a little bit 
scary that said I think Denver 

1651
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:04,500
players are still fairly priced 
and I'm drafting them, but that 

1652
01:28:04,500 --> 01:28:07,000
one did say that to me. 
Do you guys ever take Tim 

1653
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,900
Patrick? 
Yeah, when I take R Us? 

1654
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:12,400
Yeah, I thought because you can 
do it. 

1655
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:15,200
You can do, you can take Eckler 
in the first round. 

1656
01:28:15,300 --> 01:28:17,800
You can take Keenan, and if you 
miss out on Herbert, you can, 

1657
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,300
you don't have to take Judy, you
don't have to take Sutton, you 

1658
01:28:20,300 --> 01:28:23,000
can take Russ then, you can take
dulcich. 

1659
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:24,900
And then you can take mins or 
Patrick? 

1660
01:28:25,300 --> 01:28:31,300
Yeah. 
Didn't they see alter the 

1661
01:28:31,300 --> 01:28:33,700
market? 
The market of all seasons are 

1662
01:28:33,700 --> 01:28:35,300
guarding. 
The market is completely 

1663
01:28:35,300 --> 01:28:38,100
disregarding ACL tears because 
briefs always running back 11, 

1664
01:28:38,100 --> 01:28:41,500
so it just doesn't matter. 
But I thought there was a Tang, 

1665
01:28:41,500 --> 01:28:45,200
we're like the quality of how 
athletic they are is. 

1666
01:28:45,300 --> 01:28:47,200
Really important for any 
Tremors. 

1667
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:50,400
Yeah, yeah. 
I'm like he may be. 

1668
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,400
It may be. 
I'm like discounting, I'm too 

1669
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:55,900
much as an athlete but like 
somebody who's like kind of like

1670
01:28:55,900 --> 01:29:01,000
it, not not the elite NFL at me.
Sounds like would have should 

1671
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:04,100
have a much harder time 
recovering from a terror than a,

1672
01:29:04,700 --> 01:29:06,400
I mean, Michael Galloping like 
Greece. 

1673
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:09,800
Michael Gallup said, eight 
months into his ACL recovery. 

1674
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:15,800
He couldn't walk. 
So, you know, it feels it feels 

1675
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:17,900
like weed. 
Maybe gone to all in on the 

1676
01:29:17,900 --> 01:29:20,600
modern medicine, bro. 
These guys, they're back better 

1677
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:22,300
than ever. 
Like, I get it. 

1678
01:29:22,300 --> 01:29:24,600
Like, Tim, Patrick could very 
easily be caged Ambler. 

1679
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:27,000
We're like, we, I mean, could 
you Handler talking about Denver

1680
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:28,900
wide receivers coming back? 
From an ACL tear? 

1681
01:29:29,100 --> 01:29:31,200
We don't. 
Did he even play? 

1682
01:29:31,700 --> 01:29:33,800
I mean, I don't even remember 
cage Ambler accruing, any 

1683
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:37,200
statistics for all my dead cage,
Ambler teams, it is helpful that

1684
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,300
Patrick tour in the preseason 
though. 

1685
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,400
Yeah, he'll be over a year. 
I moved from the east on 

1686
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:45,800
occasion Handler tearing his ACL
in season, right? 

1687
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:48,100
2021. 
God damn, dude. 

1688
01:29:48,500 --> 01:29:51,200
I drafted so much cage. 
A Handler and he had seven 

1689
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:55,600
fucking catches last year that 
this and that's that's six more 

1690
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:59,500
than Jameson Williams. 
How many, how many Alberto have?

1691
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:04,000
The reason I'm sending in on 
Patrick? 

1692
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:06,200
And then I'll mix him in on 
correlated stuff. 

1693
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:10,300
And just my eighteenth round 
pick is that he has a dead cap 

1694
01:30:10,300 --> 01:30:14,300
hit of over. 
Million dollars this year, they 

1695
01:30:14,300 --> 01:30:17,000
sign into a huge contract 
extension that he tore his knee.

1696
01:30:17,100 --> 01:30:19,000
Yeah. 
So you really can't cut him. 

1697
01:30:19,500 --> 01:30:22,000
I think they can cut them 
technically and that eat like 10

1698
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:24,400
million of debt cap and save 
like less than a million. 

1699
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:28,200
So if he's like attrocious, 
maybe they would cut him but I 

1700
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:32,100
think he's going to be on the 
roster so I don't know. 

1701
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:34,200
Yeah. 
And I think you have like 

1702
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:37,600
Portland Sutton has really been 
speaking of ACL tears. 

1703
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:40,400
Another guy towards the ACL and 
seemingly never recovered. 

1704
01:30:41,100 --> 01:30:43,200
Maybe That's an argument for 
Patrick or against it. 

1705
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:46,500
But man, son is not looked 
great, the past couple of years.

1706
01:30:46,500 --> 01:30:50,300
I think the athleticism, he had 
early in his career, it's is 

1707
01:30:50,300 --> 01:30:53,500
maybe sort of passed him by 
where I could see. 

1708
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:57,100
Patrick just forcing his way 
onto the field at the expensive.

1709
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:59,100
Something, if something just 
doesn't have anything left. 

1710
01:30:59,100 --> 01:31:01,800
So I think it's a fine, it's 
funny. 

1711
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:05,300
They ran the 18 guy that catches
two touchdowns and week 17. 

1712
01:31:05,300 --> 01:31:06,500
Like that's yeah, he's a big 
deal. 

1713
01:31:06,500 --> 01:31:08,300
It's very possible. 
Yeah. 

1714
01:31:09,700 --> 01:31:12,500
When he's been healthy, they 
have always liked to play him 

1715
01:31:12,500 --> 01:31:16,300
and get him on the field. 
So, yeah, we'll see. 

1716
01:31:16,700 --> 01:31:18,700
I just know. 
I just know this ends with 

1717
01:31:18,700 --> 01:31:20,700
Jared. 
Stidham throwing three 

1718
01:31:20,700 --> 01:31:23,100
touchdowns to Adam Troutman and 
week 17. 

1719
01:31:23,100 --> 01:31:25,100
Like there's just no other. 
There's no other way. 

1720
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:29,500
No, I hate Troutman on the 
troutman's on the Broncos. 

1721
01:31:29,500 --> 01:31:31,800
Yeah, you're hot. 
He came over. 

1722
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:36,000
He came over with his guy. 
Sean Payton. 

1723
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:39,900
Shopping also brought over at 
Tony Jones. 

1724
01:31:39,900 --> 01:31:43,600
It's like, he's bringing over 
really the, the words of the 

1725
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:46,200
Quest for notoriety, just 
whipping off the cream of the 

1726
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:48,000
crop from that rock? 
I mean, just wait, wait for 

1727
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:50,700
them, wait for them to cut Ross 
in for him to trade a second 

1728
01:31:50,700 --> 01:31:54,400
round, pick for Taste of Mill. 
Like just you just purchased for

1729
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:58,100
taste them straight up and says 
enough the Saints the same 

1730
01:31:58,100 --> 01:32:06,100
thing. 
It's moving on to, I want to 

1731
01:32:06,108 --> 01:32:07,800
make a point. 
I wanted to make a point on the 

1732
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:10,900
eagles, which is that we all 
sort of week 17 stuff. 

1733
01:32:10,900 --> 01:32:17,700
Is clearly baked into ADP, all 
that is true, people clearly are

1734
01:32:17,700 --> 01:32:21,000
factoring that in. 
I mean, what is, what is the 

1735
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:24,200
spread in the total of that game
going to be if Kyler Murray does

1736
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:27,400
not come back at any point, if 
Clayton, to nor Colt McCoy is 

1737
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:29,500
quarterbacking that game? 
I mean, it could be, it could be

1738
01:32:29,500 --> 01:32:32,600
a spot where the Eagles are up, 
20 10 at half. 

1739
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:36,200
And Like you get, you can see a 
story where like Jalen hurd's 

1740
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:39,900
post this monster season, the 
Deep, the all the things we say 

1741
01:32:39,900 --> 01:32:41,600
are coming, true. 
The Eagles defense is a little 

1742
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:46,000
bit worse that the Eagles pass 
catchers are get more volume and

1743
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:50,100
retain their efficiency. 
You know, AJ Brown is like a 30%

1744
01:32:50,100 --> 01:32:51,300
Advance. 
Rate is a first round pick. 

1745
01:32:51,300 --> 01:32:54,600
It's like something we've never 
seen before and, and Eagle 

1746
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:57,900
Stacks are so common in the 
final and Jalen Hurd scores. 

1747
01:32:57,900 --> 01:32:59,900
A teenager Brown scores 15 
Dallas. 

1748
01:32:59,900 --> 01:33:03,400
Carter gets 11 and Boston's got 
scores 21, yard touchdown. 

1749
01:33:03,900 --> 01:33:05,800
And all these things are dead as
shit. 

1750
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:09,000
And the final, all right, Davis,
I need you to open your third 

1751
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:11,300
eye here because okay, anything,
right? 

1752
01:33:11,300 --> 01:33:14,600
Okay, opening it. 
It's if it's giant splay, the 

1753
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:17,100
the Eagles. 
Play the Giants in week 18, 

1754
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:19,900
okay, so heading into the 
Cardinals game against Clayton, 

1755
01:33:19,900 --> 01:33:22,200
tune. 
Oh my God, I love the way this 

1756
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:25,600
is going Boston, Scott, someone 
I so they can't use him. 

1757
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:29,700
They neither giant killer fresh.
Okay, okay, you get, you get the

1758
01:33:29,700 --> 01:33:32,300
Eagles just roll the, you know, 
deposit Smith catches a 

1759
01:33:32,308 --> 01:33:37,600
touchdown Jalen, It's rushes in 
one you know, Richard Penny 

1760
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:41,600
scores a touchdown but then 
second half DeAndre Swift 

1761
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:44,400
averaging. 
A 15% snap share just gets 

1762
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:47,500
thrown out their scores three 
touchdowns to Salt away the 

1763
01:33:47,500 --> 01:33:50,000
game. 
We so that was that wasn't 

1764
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:51,900
exactly the way I thought you 
were going to go. 

1765
01:33:51,900 --> 01:33:54,800
I thought you were gonna go with
basically the Eagles effectively

1766
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:57,800
rest, their starters, as 15 and 
a half Point favorites against 

1767
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:01,600
the Cardinals, but that would 
mean DeAndre Swift going nuts. 

1768
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,800
If you start, is if the start is
arrested, So we got, we got the 

1769
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:08,000
same place eventually? 
Yeah, I think I think I just 

1770
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:10,400
opened my third and fourth eyes 
to the Andres whip this. 

1771
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:14,600
So you need in week 17, the prop
ball, other thing Davis with 

1772
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:17,400
your story is that, you know, 
that, that General Narrative of 

1773
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:19,700
the Eagles is absolutely 
destroying a team in the first 

1774
01:34:19,700 --> 01:34:21,600
half and playing their backups 
in the second half. 

1775
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:24,200
They basically did that all of 
last year in the Eagles players 

1776
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:26,400
still got there. 
So that's almost like the 

1777
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:30,800
Baseline, but they weren't they 
weren't, they weren't on the 

1778
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:33,100
teams that they were not. 
The guys, you need in week 17 

1779
01:34:33,100 --> 01:34:34,700
last year. 
The eagle that was hurts. 

1780
01:34:34,700 --> 01:34:37,600
Probably towards getting 
injured, but I see what you're 

1781
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:40,500
saying. 
You can play the Giants like bad

1782
01:34:40,500 --> 01:34:44,000
and week 17. 
Last year they did, they did it 

1783
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:46,100
hurts. 
Even was I, I had a lot of that 

1784
01:34:46,100 --> 01:34:49,100
Eagles receivers and they just 
know many Incubus bad. 

1785
01:34:49,900 --> 01:34:53,400
Oh no, that was the game against
the Saints where they sucked. 

1786
01:34:53,500 --> 01:34:55,800
They were awful. 
The whole team played shit and 

1787
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:56,600
they said, yeah. 
Okay. 

1788
01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:57,700
All right. 
I gotta go look, yeah. 

1789
01:34:57,700 --> 01:35:00,600
All the tweets are people said 
that like meant you and jail. 

1790
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:02,200
There's zero difference, between
Minshew and Jalen. 

1791
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:06,500
Hurd's people deleted all those.
After like okay no they were 

1792
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:10,200
yes, they were the New Orleans 
Saints, they scored 10 points, 

1793
01:35:10,500 --> 01:35:14,100
they scored 10 points, it was 
they did, they did nothing 

1794
01:35:14,100 --> 01:35:18,900
Gardner, Minshew was 18 at 32 
there was one passing touchdown 

1795
01:35:19,100 --> 01:35:22,700
and it was to AJ Brown had for 
497 and touchdown. 

1796
01:35:22,900 --> 01:35:27,300
Devon, Ted 94, 115 miles 
Sanders, who was a huge win if 

1797
01:35:27,300 --> 01:35:32,300
you took them last year, pretty 
high Advance rate player 12 461 

1798
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:35,500
no targets. 
So Six points from miles, a in 

1799
01:35:35,500 --> 01:35:39,800
the final. 
I do think that these kind of 

1800
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:42,600
things can be useful in that 
like when you look at actual 

1801
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:46,000
games like because think things 
are decided by one game are 

1802
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:50,600
sorry like by singer games and 
week 17 like how Wild and like, 

1803
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:54,800
weird. 
They can be like, like not not 

1804
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:56,600
to like, who knows what could 
happen? 

1805
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,600
Like, could be anything. 
Stop now, you're still just 

1806
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:07,400
don't know but Yeah, man. 
I mean, the speaking of people 

1807
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:11,400
resting their starters and week 
17, week 17 was so fucked last 

1808
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:14,600
year, Derrick, Henry, and the 
entire Titans, like starting 

1809
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:16,400
offense, don't even, don't even 
know. 

1810
01:36:16,500 --> 01:36:17,800
Do we can't even talk about? 
Derrick? 

1811
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:23,000
Henry resting, 15, not a, I had 
him on one of my bbm finals, 

1812
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:26,700
bullets and item my special team
as well, absolutely brutal. 

1813
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:29,900
So yeah we just we just don't 
know. 

1814
01:36:30,100 --> 01:36:32,300
That's why you take Malik 
Willis, he's going to be 

1815
01:36:32,300 --> 01:36:35,200
starting week 17 this year. 
Oh my God, can you imagine Ajan 

1816
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:38,200
if Malik Willis Like a Phoenix 
Rises From the Ashes to be 

1817
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:42,300
relevant and it's a football, 
but that those I think that does

1818
01:36:42,300 --> 01:36:44,200
raise. 
The question of like, who are 

1819
01:36:44,208 --> 01:36:48,400
the who were the teams were 
like, you get this super cheap 

1820
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:53,000
stock late, and it doesn't 
matter all year. 

1821
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:57,700
And then we 17 to just as free 
game, where the Patriots and the

1822
01:36:57,700 --> 01:37:00,700
Patriots are the team, right 
where it gets really good one. 

1823
01:37:00,700 --> 01:37:03,300
Yeah, yeah. 
Yeah. 

1824
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:05,600
Panthers have b1i denominator as
well. 

1825
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:08,900
Oh my God. 
Yeah, Texans Texans. 

1826
01:37:08,900 --> 01:37:10,600
Texans Titans it's one of the 
four. 

1827
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:13,500
Okay, yeah I mean we're really 
getting into nerd them here but 

1828
01:37:13,500 --> 01:37:17,800
2023 is an El Nino year so the 
weather is going to be nuts 

1829
01:37:17,900 --> 01:37:20,500
anywhere Coastal, it's gonna be 
insane. 

1830
01:37:21,100 --> 01:37:24,700
So a lot of these outdoor games 
I mean people also have memory 

1831
01:37:24,700 --> 01:37:29,800
wipe this but to week 16 last 
year, not week 17 but with 16 

1832
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:32,200
there was a polar vortex across 
the United States. 

1833
01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:34,300
There were Games. 
There were multiple games with 

1834
01:37:34,300 --> 01:37:37,000
totals at, like, 32. 
All these outdoor games were 

1835
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:39,200
like ruined. 
They were like, they were, like,

1836
01:37:39,300 --> 01:37:41,700
no one scored any points. 
There was no forward passes. 

1837
01:37:41,900 --> 01:37:44,500
Imagine if that happened in week
17, how different the context 

1838
01:37:44,500 --> 01:37:47,300
would have been, you know, and 
that text and sightings game is 

1839
01:37:47,300 --> 01:37:49,300
indoors. 
I don't know. 

1840
01:37:49,300 --> 01:37:51,700
I'd say it's you know you just 
you just never know. 

1841
01:37:51,700 --> 01:37:54,300
But it's something. 
I do point out a lot right? 

1842
01:37:54,300 --> 01:37:55,700
I think about it a lot. 
Yeah. 

1843
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:59,100
Like maybe maybe the fact that 
it's indoor/outdoor just won't 

1844
01:37:59,100 --> 01:38:00,500
matter this year. 
Now. 

1845
01:38:00,500 --> 01:38:02,100
What how does the El Nino effect
thing? 

1846
01:38:02,500 --> 01:38:04,100
Iran. 
Is that it was it me? 

1847
01:38:04,100 --> 01:38:05,800
I treasure will be modeled, 
it'll be. 

1848
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:09,000
No, no, the opposite. 
It means precipitation is nuts. 

1849
01:38:09,100 --> 01:38:12,500
It means it causes across the us
but I thought it was like a 

1850
01:38:12,500 --> 01:38:15,500
milder winter. 
No, well, so the temperatures 

1851
01:38:15,500 --> 01:38:17,700
will be higher, the temperatures
have the possibility to be 

1852
01:38:17,700 --> 01:38:20,100
higher but it causes crazy 
precipitation. 

1853
01:38:20,300 --> 01:38:23,100
So we could have extra snow 
extra hail, extra rain. 

1854
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:25,300
And a lot of these out 
especially the coastal games, 

1855
01:38:25,500 --> 01:38:29,300
there could be like it could be 
in precipitation for well, like 

1856
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:32,400
so, do you remember that crazy 
Bears, a lot of our lesson. 

1857
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:34,500
I have never been outside. 
That's okay. 

1858
01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:40,500
You remember, you remember the 
Bears 49ers game in week one 

1859
01:38:40,500 --> 01:38:42,800
last year Lansford? 
Yeah yes. 

1860
01:38:43,100 --> 01:38:46,100
I mean, imagine imagine if you 
draft, imagine if you draft a 

1861
01:38:46,108 --> 01:38:49,900
stack and you're like these 
dudes, can't even see we got 

1862
01:38:49,900 --> 01:38:53,100
Justin field slipping. 
It's like it's a good at like 

1863
01:38:53,100 --> 01:38:56,100
weather weather has the 
possibility to ruin. 

1864
01:38:57,300 --> 01:38:59,700
Best for Mania for, you know, 
just completely skew the 

1865
01:38:59,700 --> 01:39:01,500
results. 
Like some super high Advance 

1866
01:39:01,500 --> 01:39:07,600
rate stack passing stack, Chiefs
Bangles gets played and it's 47 

1867
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:10,900
degrees and there's driving rain
like that game sucks for 

1868
01:39:10,900 --> 01:39:13,600
fantasy. 
Yeah. 

1869
01:39:13,900 --> 01:39:15,900
So what do we do? 
Just take only dumb games. 

1870
01:39:16,300 --> 01:39:20,000
I Target a lot of dumb games. 
I take I take like CJ Stroud, 

1871
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:22,300
John. 
Mechi Nico Collins at the end a 

1872
01:39:22,300 --> 01:39:27,300
lot. 
Yeah I like unironically take a 

1873
01:39:27,308 --> 01:39:30,100
lot of guys playing and domes or
retractable roof spots. 

1874
01:39:32,700 --> 01:39:35,800
Or to sound smart. 
Would that work to like certain 

1875
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:38,300
games? 
It works for it, won't get it 

1876
01:39:38,300 --> 01:39:40,600
won't be cold. 
Obviously, they would be it 

1877
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:44,000
could be really rainy which is a
finding this is like this is 

1878
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:47,400
like the 900th level of things 
to think about like winning 

1879
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:49,600
Fantasy Football. 
But it is, it is something I've 

1880
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:52,200
been in the it is in the back of
my mind. 

1881
01:39:52,500 --> 01:39:54,700
Hayden Hayden here to back us up
on this one. 

1882
01:39:54,700 --> 01:39:59,200
So, yeah, Hayden was the 
originator of this last 

1883
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:01,600
offseason. 
He was the first guy to Do the 

1884
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:04,900
close your eyes, imagine it's 17
degrees across the United States

1885
01:40:04,900 --> 01:40:07,200
of America and all the outdoor 
games have been. 

1886
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:09,100
It was the week before he 
totally blew it. 

1887
01:40:09,100 --> 01:40:13,900
He totally weird Hayden. 
Dude, he doesn't get it, bro. 

1888
01:40:15,500 --> 01:40:22,300
It's tough to like which are did
the roads 17 that I like I got 

1889
01:40:22,300 --> 01:40:22,700
it. 
I got it. 

1890
01:40:22,700 --> 01:40:25,100
Pulled up. 
These are almost I did. 

1891
01:40:25,100 --> 01:40:27,800
I typed up a Twitter thread on 
this the other day and I was 

1892
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:30,600
like you know what? 
This is actually two virgin for 

1893
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:32,300
quitters. 
Like this is, this is better for

1894
01:40:32,300 --> 01:40:37,400
a BP chasing. 
This isn't a good thread one 

1895
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:39,300
second, I gotta go. 
I gotta go find it, okay? 

1896
01:40:39,300 --> 01:40:41,800
So they endure gigas 
Indianapolis right? 

1897
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:45,900
Why it's Lions Cowboys Titans 
Texans? 

1898
01:40:47,700 --> 01:40:53,500
It is later, Raiders Colts and 
Packers Vikings are the indoor 

1899
01:40:53,500 --> 01:40:55,900
games. 
There's only for these are all 

1900
01:40:55,907 --> 01:40:58,300
really portable games. 
Yes. 

1901
01:40:58,300 --> 01:41:00,300
If you really want to get into 
the weeds, technically the 

1902
01:41:00,300 --> 01:41:02,400
Seahawks game is. 
Kind of domed. 

1903
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:05,400
They it is it is Half Dome to 
prevents about 70% of the 

1904
01:41:05,407 --> 01:41:08,400
precipitation from getting into 
the field because it's in 

1905
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:10,100
Seattle. 
And so if it was all the way 

1906
01:41:10,100 --> 01:41:12,600
open, the seats are basically 
rust every single year and they 

1907
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:16,100
have to replace them so maybe 
that helps a little bit but 

1908
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:19,700
That's that's what my research 
turned up, okay? 

1909
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:22,500
I mean titans. 
So this chart, again Titans 

1910
01:41:22,500 --> 01:41:25,500
Houston stands out is like by 
for like, you can take well 

1911
01:41:25,500 --> 01:41:27,900
Derek Henry, obviously is 
expensive and Damien, Pierce is 

1912
01:41:27,900 --> 01:41:33,000
somewhat, but you can take like,
six Tennessee, Houston pass 

1913
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:35,000
catchers. 
I don't even know. 

1914
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:36,900
You take on Tennessee, to be 
honest, that's probably bad 

1915
01:41:36,900 --> 01:41:39,500
strategy but but like you can 
stack them in, you can take, you

1916
01:41:39,500 --> 01:41:41,700
can take Aqua. 
Yeah, perks of CoQ10. 

1917
01:41:41,700 --> 01:41:45,400
And then grab two or three 
Houston pass catchers. 

1918
01:41:46,500 --> 01:41:49,600
It's not, you could do it like 
very easily. 

1919
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:52,600
The and thing is, is like those 
could be good pics. 

1920
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:57,600
Anyways, like the Houston picks 
specifically, like, if Stroud is

1921
01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:01,700
like a c plus B, minus 
quarterback anyway. 

1922
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:06,100
Those could like you could have 
a huge win anyway with this week

1923
01:42:06,100 --> 01:42:09,400
17, spot of like this awful like
to bad defense is playing 

1924
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:11,700
against each other. 
Now obviously, the head coaches 

1925
01:42:11,700 --> 01:42:15,500
of these teams are like very 
much like Damien Pearson Derrick

1926
01:42:15,500 --> 01:42:20,900
Henry, Are combining 447 touches
and that game regardless of 

1927
01:42:20,900 --> 01:42:23,500
whatever happens but they could 
be good picks anyway. 

1928
01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:29,200
Yeah that's that's true. 
I like this cheap offenses. 

1929
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:32,800
You can stack up for for nothing
with your last couple pics. 

1930
01:42:33,700 --> 01:42:35,200
What were the other look dumb 
games again? 

1931
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:40,400
Dallas like ballast control, it 
is the one that I'm like when I 

1932
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:44,300
get that when I when I start 
like sometimes I'll start saying

1933
01:42:44,300 --> 01:42:47,100
Brown Pollard Just For The Vibes
or something like that. 

1934
01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:53,500
But just like you know you take 
you take you get CD, you get 

1935
01:42:53,500 --> 01:42:57,200
whoever, you take Dak, you take 
laporta, you take munch on it, 

1936
01:42:57,200 --> 01:43:00,000
you're just like bring it gives 
in there too, you can get you 

1937
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:03,200
just, it feels so good, man. 
You're like, it's just like II 

1938
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:06,000
got the winning ticket right 
here, Jameson Williams. 

1939
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:09,700
Maybe catching like his sixth 
and seventh passes the year 17. 

1940
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:15,100
If you're a bull I'll take 
something that's projected stats

1941
01:43:15,100 --> 01:43:16,700
from last year. 
It's really hard to get to six 

1942
01:43:16,700 --> 01:43:19,100
or seven but there's a lot of 
been good if you can get him 

1943
01:43:19,100 --> 01:43:24,200
over his fancy but yeah you can 
get him to 16 targets like eight

1944
01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:31,500
touchdowns so All right, Sam. 
You have to go do we do we want 

1945
01:43:31,500 --> 01:43:33,200
to keep vibing or do we want to 
get out of here? 

1946
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:34,600
I think. 
I think we should. 

1947
01:43:34,900 --> 01:43:39,300
Let's give our best value takes 
unless any other all, open it up

1948
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:43,400
any last comments on on Stacks 
Connor. 

1949
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:47,900
I'll give you the for you 
haven't been talking about, you 

1950
01:43:47,900 --> 01:43:51,600
know, as much as we have. 
So any other Stacks that you 

1951
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:57,300
want to give the people Let me 
see. 

1952
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:04,100
So talk about Washington which 
that one was inside. 

1953
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:08,800
Yeah, on draftable. 
Now that it's outside. 

1954
01:44:08,900 --> 01:44:10,800
Now that I found it. 
So you have to see, I don't like

1955
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:15,700
that one, looks fun as well, and
we're like they're one of those 

1956
01:44:15,700 --> 01:44:19,300
teams were they actually have a 
good few good players and people

1957
01:44:19,300 --> 01:44:22,000
say, oh no, you can't take them.
They have too many, good 

1958
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:24,600
players. 
Oh and like okay well what if 

1959
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:28,800
the offense is just good, then 
And yeah, Gino Gino. 

1960
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:30,200
Yeah, what if the offense just 
Good Sam? 

1961
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:31,600
Does that make you nervous at 
all? 

1962
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:37,600
Yeah, you know. 
Betting, on Gino Smith, having 

1963
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:41,300
two years in a row as always. 
Okay, I got I got some breaking,

1964
01:44:41,300 --> 01:44:44,700
I got some breaking news out 
Spielman on Twitter reports, 

1965
01:44:44,700 --> 01:44:48,500
I've seen mentioned that this 
should be a super El Nino year. 

1966
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:58,600
You're gonna break that. 
Like super El Nino. 

1967
01:45:00,300 --> 01:45:03,400
That means, that means every 
week 17, game turns into Justin 

1968
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:05,500
field sliding down the field 
like an airplane. 

1969
01:45:07,100 --> 01:45:09,200
All right, I guess I'm drafting 
more lines. 

1970
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:12,800
Mmm. 
All right, Cole to see halls. 

1971
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:13,900
I dropped a lot of Anthony 
Richardson. 

1972
01:45:13,900 --> 01:45:15,400
That's in its own, right? 
Yep. 

1973
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:16,700
That's in a down. 
I died. 

1974
01:45:16,700 --> 01:45:20,300
Okay. 
All right, Connor we do this 

1975
01:45:20,300 --> 01:45:23,100
every week. 
Give our best closing line 

1976
01:45:23,100 --> 01:45:28,000
values by August, which players 
going to have the biggest gain 

1977
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:31,400
and closing line value. 
Who is your, who's your pick? 

1978
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:36,600
Can I'm not prepared. 
So can someone you guys 

1979
01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:37,400
something? 
I'll go. 

1980
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:39,400
I'll go first, excellent, I got 
one. 

1981
01:45:39,500 --> 01:45:41,500
I got one. 
I haven't used this one yet. 

1982
01:45:41,500 --> 01:45:42,900
Kenneth gain. 
Well, when it just when it 

1983
01:45:42,907 --> 01:45:45,400
becomes clear, when everyone, 
when everyone's third eye 

1984
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:48,400
opened, you guys one last week, 
use that one. 

1985
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:55,300
Okay, I will use IQ, I cheated, 
I will use Brushy rice, Rashi 

1986
01:45:55,300 --> 01:45:57,600
rice will get the training camp,
he'll get. 

1987
01:45:57,600 --> 01:46:00,300
And people be like, oh yeah, 
he's better than Scott Moore. 

1988
01:46:00,300 --> 01:46:02,300
So let's let's do rushy rice. 
Ice. 

1989
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,600
Can I go? 
Yeah, go for it because mine Sky

1990
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:08,700
more. 
I think Sky more hey one of us 

1991
01:46:08,700 --> 01:46:10,400
is going to be right? 
Oh man. 

1992
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:12,900
Well you can have a direct 
influence on this lab. 

1993
01:46:12,900 --> 01:46:14,700
How much you like them off 
throughout the offseason to? 

1994
01:46:14,700 --> 01:46:16,300
So this might be like insider 
trading. 

1995
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:19,400
So listen. 
That's that's partly true. 

1996
01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:21,700
But I don't think people are 
going to listen to me again on 

1997
01:46:21,700 --> 01:46:23,400
Sky more. 
So so we're going to find 

1998
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:26,900
someone who didn't Scout tout 
Sky more last year, which is 

1999
01:46:26,900 --> 01:46:28,900
gonna be hard to find because 
the whole industry was basically

2000
01:46:28,900 --> 01:46:33,100
in on him and then he busted the
front page of the Kansas City 

2001
01:46:33,100 --> 01:46:35,600
Chiefs team page on the athletic
right now. 

2002
01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:40,100
Is a picture Sky more wearing 
number 24, which is still 

2003
01:46:40,100 --> 01:46:41,100
terrible. 
Please change your number. 

2004
01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:43,300
And the title is the young 
Chiefs player. 

2005
01:46:43,300 --> 01:46:46,100
Who is impressing Patrick 
Mahomes be click into? 

2006
01:46:46,100 --> 01:46:49,000
The article is a section at jet,
it's about Justin Ross. 

2007
01:46:53,500 --> 01:46:56,500
Is that the the first mini 
section is called more appears 

2008
01:46:56,500 --> 01:47:00,400
to be ascending talking about 
how he basically is the favorite

2009
01:47:00,500 --> 01:47:01,900
for the juice, mr. 
Schuester role. 

2010
01:47:02,500 --> 01:47:05,900
I think the fact that we are 
still drafting Judas misused, 

2011
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:07,900
Stir. 
Well, favorite for the juice 

2012
01:47:07,900 --> 01:47:09,800
with rooster roll blowing me 
away. 

2013
01:47:09,900 --> 01:47:12,300
I know. 
But look wow, that really no, 

2014
01:47:12,300 --> 01:47:17,100
none of that. 
We know how gross this ranges at

2015
01:47:17,100 --> 01:47:21,600
wide receiver. 
There's like usually a couple 

2016
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:24,600
teams in the draft that are sort
of desperate for a wide receiver

2017
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:27,100
for wide, receiver 5. 
If they have a gross wide 

2018
01:47:27,100 --> 01:47:31,000
receiver for it's just a natural
part of the board for a wide 

2019
01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:33,600
receiver, with Buzz to be able 
to jump up a couple rounds. 

2020
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:36,500
So, I'm taking right now in the 
10th round, but I can't see 

2021
01:47:36,500 --> 01:47:38,900
again rising to that he frowned 
range pretty easily. 

2022
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:41,800
Yeah. 
Fair enough. 

2023
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:45,300
I don't like it but I do take 
him. 

2024
01:47:46,300 --> 01:47:48,400
Yeah, I'll take him Stacks. 
I don't know. 

2025
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:50,500
I still like maybe I'm wrong 
about this. 

2026
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:54,800
I still like or she rides better
just because Of what happened 

2027
01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:58,700
last year with sky, but that Gap
is getting bigger. 

2028
01:47:58,700 --> 01:48:01,400
I guess it's just because of 
offseason, kind of type stuff 

2029
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:05,300
around Sky first or she, but I 
don't hate it. 

2030
01:48:05,300 --> 01:48:09,000
I mean, one of these Kansas City
receivers is, is way too cheap, 

2031
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:10,900
right, right. 
They have to be. 

2032
01:48:10,900 --> 01:48:13,800
Well, that was sort of the 
thesis last year and none of 

2033
01:48:13,808 --> 01:48:15,300
them were. 
Yeah, that's true. 

2034
01:48:15,300 --> 01:48:17,200
Fuck I thought I'd learned that 
let's move. 

2035
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:23,700
Okay, I'll give mine. 
I'm gonna go. 

2036
01:48:23,900 --> 01:48:27,900
With. 
Deciding between two Green Bay 

2037
01:48:27,900 --> 01:48:31,300
pass catchers. 
I'm gonna go with Jaden read, I 

2038
01:48:31,308 --> 01:48:34,300
almost chose Luke Musgrave. 
I don't think people are really 

2039
01:48:34,300 --> 01:48:36,800
ever going to buy into rookie 
tie-downs. 

2040
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:40,800
I'll go with Jaden read. 
I just think that, you know, the

2041
01:48:41,300 --> 01:48:44,300
Romeo dub stuff, I guess you 
can. 

2042
01:48:44,500 --> 01:48:47,200
It depends, you know, it's a 
glass-half-full situation. 

2043
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:49,400
You can look at his rookie year 
and say he got on the field. 

2044
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:51,700
I almost I almost chose Romeo 
dubs. 

2045
01:48:51,900 --> 01:48:53,600
Yeah. 
And I know that there's, you 

2046
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:56,300
know, smart people that that are
in Them. 

2047
01:48:56,300 --> 01:48:59,100
And, you know, I listen, there's
good people on both sides, 

2048
01:48:59,100 --> 01:49:01,500
there's good people on both 
sides, the Romeo dubs debate. 

2049
01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:05,600
But man, I don't know, I think 
just the signal of them, taking 

2050
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:11,000
Jaden read in the second round, 
kind of shows to me, they 

2051
01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:13,800
weren't that happy with what 
dubs did last year. 

2052
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:17,500
And I don't think it's a signal 
about Watson given, how well he 

2053
01:49:17,500 --> 01:49:20,500
played down the stretch dubs, 
like rookie your stats or 

2054
01:49:20,500 --> 01:49:23,000
they're totally. 
Who would their third, who would

2055
01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:25,600
their third wide receiver have 
been if they tie on. 

2056
01:49:25,700 --> 01:49:27,100
Going to, I'm going to be a 
pendant here. 

2057
01:49:27,100 --> 01:49:29,000
Because who would their third 
wide receiver been if they 

2058
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:31,000
didn't take Jane? 
Yeah, I don't know some more eat

2059
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:32,900
or a yeah. 
Like, it would have been, it 

2060
01:49:32,900 --> 01:49:34,500
would have been. 
It would have been a no one. 

2061
01:49:34,500 --> 01:49:37,100
It would have been a nobody, 
which is fair. 

2062
01:49:37,100 --> 01:49:40,600
But it's still second round. 
Draft capital for Jaden, read 

2063
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:43,100
verse fourth round draft capital
for Romeo dubs. 

2064
01:49:43,300 --> 01:49:46,300
And I'm just gonna, I'm gonna 
break the tie and in favor of 

2065
01:49:46,300 --> 01:49:51,500
the draft capital and dubs. 
His rookie year was like just on

2066
01:49:51,500 --> 01:49:54,800
the margin of like you could 
squint at it and be like, that 

2067
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:58,400
was pretty good. 
But for a guy who was day three 

2068
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:02,600
draft Capital, I'm kind of just 
believing that they don't really

2069
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:05,500
think they found something in 
dubs besides just, you know, a 

2070
01:50:05,500 --> 01:50:08,300
fine third wide receiver to have
on the roster. 

2071
01:50:08,300 --> 01:50:11,700
I don't think it's anything 
special, so I'm team. 

2072
01:50:11,700 --> 01:50:14,000
Jaden read over Romania doves 
especially when there's a 

2073
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:16,400
three-round gap in there. 
Atp's. 

2074
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:19,300
Like, I just, I just don't get 
that with the draft Capital that

2075
01:50:19,300 --> 01:50:23,900
one of those guys. 
A lot of the closing one value. 

2076
01:50:23,900 --> 01:50:29,100
It can often be Be like some 
rookie who is going like and 

2077
01:50:29,100 --> 01:50:32,300
like you go to training camp and
they just have this constant 

2078
01:50:32,300 --> 01:50:37,400
Buzz of this guy looks great. 
This guy looks amazing and and I

2079
01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:40,500
you probably have more 
likelihood of that happening for

2080
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:45,500
for read on am from then do abs.
And so I did. 

2081
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:47,800
Thank you for for taking deer 
time. 

2082
01:50:47,900 --> 01:50:53,300
I did I did finance my pick and 
so I'm going for a Rishi Rashid,

2083
01:50:53,300 --> 01:50:55,600
Shaheed and all. 
That is. 

2084
01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:58,100
Good one. 
Yeah, that's a good one because 

2085
01:50:58,300 --> 01:51:02,700
like the I guess the argument in
favor him so he was the NFL 

2086
01:51:02,700 --> 01:51:05,700
equivalent of a walk-on last 
year of like completely on 

2087
01:51:05,700 --> 01:51:08,200
drafted a kind of remember the 
name of the where he went to 

2088
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:14,300
college and then for four weeks 
at Weeks 14 through 18 he 

2089
01:51:14,300 --> 01:51:18,000
actually got into wrote of his 
had like an 88%, right? 

2090
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:24,800
Share like so the highest on the
team and then like somewhat low 

2091
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:28,200
sample size on E82, routes, but 
and tree yd /. 

2092
01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:31,100
Great run. 
I'm like he's gonna walk. 

2093
01:51:31,100 --> 01:51:34,900
Will take 160. 
And like, that's, that's kind of

2094
01:51:34,900 --> 01:51:38,200
the range where you're not 
really, you're not really 

2095
01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:43,800
talking as much about starting 
wide receivers and the other out

2096
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:47,500
you have there, is it smuggest 
GERD? 

2097
01:51:47,900 --> 01:51:50,800
And it's my Michael Thomas is 
almost ready to practice. 

2098
01:51:50,900 --> 01:51:56,100
He's almost ready. 
It's calming like Like we're 

2099
01:51:56,100 --> 01:51:58,600
gonna go practice any day now. 
Yeah. 

2100
01:52:00,700 --> 01:52:03,200
Cool. 
Alright, awesome stuff guys, 

2101
01:52:03,900 --> 01:52:07,100
what do we have going on this 
week at legendary upside pad? 

2102
01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:12,800
I'm working on a article that 
I'm hoping to get out mid week 

2103
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:15,100
this week on success rate. 
I've mentioned it a million 

2104
01:52:15,100 --> 01:52:16,600
times. 
I'm going to actually publish 

2105
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:20,000
the article on it. 
Now got Underdog rankings got 

2106
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:23,900
DraftKings rankings got dynasty 
rankings, the collaborate with 

2107
01:52:23,900 --> 01:52:27,700
Davis and Jacob Sanderson on. 
So yeah, check out legendary up.

2108
01:52:27,700 --> 01:52:30,900
Sighs still get $30 off your 
first year at legendary 

2109
01:52:30,900 --> 01:52:34,400
upside.com. 
Surely those to our podcasts. 

2110
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:36,400
We really great list of those 
over the weekend with. 

2111
01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:38,800
I got a couple more on Jake. 
Couple couple more. 

2112
01:52:38,900 --> 01:52:41,200
We might even. 
We might even knock to out this 

2113
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:42,200
week. 
We'll see. 

2114
01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:50,100
Got that coming. 
Yeah, I need to, I need to go. 

2115
01:52:50,500 --> 01:52:52,500
I need to tweak a couple things 
in mind that move. 

2116
01:52:52,500 --> 01:52:55,400
Kyle pits up and Mark Andrews 
about them, but them were too 

2117
01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:58,800
low in my initial and so I'll 
get updated and I'm going to 

2118
01:52:58,808 --> 01:53:02,100
working on Underdog rankings 
this week as well. 

2119
01:53:02,100 --> 01:53:03,500
So I need to get those 
finalized. 

2120
01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:05,500
Awesome Connor. 
What about you? 

2121
01:53:05,500 --> 01:53:07,500
Anything? 
I know you're busy with other 

2122
01:53:07,700 --> 01:53:10,200
These days but he really wrote 
of his articles or researcher 

2123
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:14,800
working on these days or I'm not
sure when it's going to come out

2124
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:20,600
and but we'll start to work on 
FF PC stuff and I don't have a 

2125
01:53:20,608 --> 01:53:24,800
lot of ffp see stuff like where 
where the main advantages on FF 

2126
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:28,400
b c and last year, one of the 
big things is no shock to 

2127
01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:30,700
anyone. 
You do really have to prioritize

2128
01:53:30,700 --> 01:53:34,800
the the tight ends and we'll 
probably update that with at the

2129
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:38,500
new lower prices, same thing. 
Of quarterbacks. 

2130
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:43,900
And I guess just most of it. 
Most of the content is about 

2131
01:53:43,900 --> 01:53:49,800
Underdog so trying to fit a FF 
PC at Niche and best ball. 

2132
01:53:50,100 --> 01:53:55,200
And but yeah, we'll have to get 
through some stuff in and work 

2133
01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:59,600
before I get that out. 
Yeah, awesome stuff. 

2134
01:53:59,700 --> 01:54:01,100
Well, thanks for joining us 
again. 

2135
01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:06,000
Connor that was a ton of fun. 
We will be back next Monday. 

2136
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:11,900
For Connor, for Davis for Pat, 
this is Sam be back next week.