1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,480 Today on ship chasing, we're hopping in the Best Ball 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:10,440 tournament on FFPC. It's $125.00 entry, $300,000 top 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:11,920 prize. If you guys watch the Pros 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,920 versus Joe's stream on Sunday night, you're kind of familiar 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,720 with this format. Of course, we got the Titan 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,920 Premium, we got the couple flex spots, and it looks like we're 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,520 going to have a friends and family draft here today with 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,000 lots of familiar faces in this draft room. 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,240 It's ship chasing with Pete, Ben, and Pat. 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:37,880 Let's do it. Pat Fryer, Helmo Anita Handjob. 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,680 Fix your sight. Jamar Alpha play Chase. 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,720 You can't handle the heat. It looks like we're. 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:47,880 Finally, at this point, you're right. 14 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,240 All right, what is up, fellas? We got one more spot available 15 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,520 if someone wants to come dance with us in this contest. 16 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,160 How are you guys doing? Doing good. 17 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,720 How you guys doing? Good, good, yeah. 18 00:01:08,960 --> 00:01:14,520 It's been a busy day and now excited to draft. 19 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,480 I do feel like a little bit in the groove having done the pros 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,880 versus Joes Gratch. I don't know if you feel 21 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,640 similar, like I'm not coming in completely blind to this. 22 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,400 For sure, yeah. And I had done one with Draco 23 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,240 over on my YouTube channel as well already, which was helpful 24 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:30,960 I think when I went to the Pro versus Joe's. 25 00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:33,720 But yeah, no, I've been too. So I'm I'm all the way there. 26 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,600 No, I mean it's definitely a different format. 27 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,840 I've been on, well, I've been on the FFPC since early June when I 28 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,400 entered one of these and completely forgot about it and 29 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,520 auto drafted. So that didn't prep. 30 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:48,560 Oh, you're. You're locked. 31 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:54,040 It didn't go completely auto drafted. 32 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,440 Beautiful. Oh yeah. 33 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,600 We should mention we did. We did an AMA yesterday on 34 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,680 Reddit, a ship chasing AMA that was quite fun. 35 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,720 Check that out. We all had some some good useful 36 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,759 answers and insight there. I loved your guys's answers. 37 00:02:10,759 --> 00:02:13,920 I I always go way too long with my answers, but there's a lot of 38 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:16,240 really good stuff in that for people who are interested. 39 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,720 Yeah, Ben was like, they'd be like, hey, like, quick question 40 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,640 about this. And then like seconds later, 4 41 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:27,360 paragraphs from Ben, like how the hell is he doing this? 42 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,560 Yeah. You let the figures fly. 43 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,520 The best one, we are off to the races here there. 44 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,360 I should say in 2 minutes this draft is going to start. 45 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,960 So we got this filled. We got the 12 spot here. 46 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:40,920 OK, time to live. I was. 47 00:02:40,920 --> 00:02:43,200 Going to say the the funniest part of the AMA because yeah. 48 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,840 And we, we didn't like collaborate on like who's 49 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,080 grabbing what question? I mean, some were directly for 50 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:49,480 one of us. So that made it easy. 51 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,720 But the funniest one was Gretch and I both responding to a Chase 52 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,840 Brown one at the same time. And someone was just like Chase 53 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,160 Brown. That's all. 54 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,520 I'll take my question off air. And I just wrote yes. 55 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,160 And then Gretch wrote like 2 paragraphs. 56 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:04,680 But seriously, Chase Brown? Here's why. 57 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,800 And then I got done and I hit send. 58 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,200 And then I saw Pete's answer pop up and I was like, oh, that was 59 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:17,400 the right answer. Apologies to the guy because, 60 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,280 you know, we were in there for like an hour and a half. 61 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,480 I, I checked, I was, I pulled it up like four or five hours later 62 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:28,040 and someone had like just asked a question of like, what's going 63 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,560 on with this Malik neighbors ADP? 64 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,320 This can't possibly work, can it? 65 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:37,000 Like you're for that question. You're about six hours too late. 66 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,440 I did actually answer that. You. 67 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,920 Know I our contact at Reddit was like, whenever you're done, go 68 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,600 ahead and close it up and I had forgotten to do that and and so 69 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,640 I went back edited the post closed it up and then I saw 70 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,920 there was a couple extra comments and that one was 71 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,440 intriguing to me and I wrote a long reply about Malik neighbors 72 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,240 that I think was good. I almost shared it on Twitter 73 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,640 because I was like, I was you got to put this in the sub stack 74 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,360 or something like this is a good place you should. 75 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,360 You should got to repurpose that. 76 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,600 Yeah, the it's funny because my, in my Deposit Kingdom video I 77 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:14,800 did last week, like my favorite pick in every round, I did Malik 78 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,160 Neighbors as my third round pick. 79 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,480 And that has been by far the most polarizing one. 80 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,480 Like lots of the rando commenters coming out to get on 81 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,360 me for that one. Daniel Jones stinks, the 82 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,560 offensive line stinks, you know, rookies like blah, blah, blah. 83 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:29,640 That is. And then I did, I did a piece 84 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,320 today for Fantasy Life looking at the Yahoo ADP and you can get 85 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:33,520 Malik Neighbors in the sixth round. 86 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,960 And I was like, guys, he's my favorite pick in the third round 87 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,000 on underdogs. So you imagine how I feel about 88 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,840 him in the sixth round on Yahoo. That's just one of those where 89 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:45,200 like I'll never know what it feels to draft in the sixth 90 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,160 round, 'cause I would just draft him in the 5th or maybe even the 91 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,400 4th, just like I'm getting him so. 92 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,480 Yeah, I'm not. I'm not gonna try to push this 93 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,000 guy to that round. Yeah, that's that's actually 94 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,080 crazy. Also say this is a 20 round 95 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,520 draft technically I believe. How much time do you have if 96 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,920 this draft gets done in an hour? Some of us have to go take care 97 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,400 of our child at a hard out. If this draft gets done in under 98 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,360 an hour, I will give a gift card to whatever team gets voted as 99 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,240 the best in the chat. So that's an incentive for 100 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:19,080 everyone. Well, I'll do a $50.00 gift card 101 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,040 to the store. You can buy an exposure blanket. 102 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:25,000 You can get whatever you want if us collectively can get this 103 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,880 draft done by 4 O 5:00 PM Eastern. 104 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:29,560 I saw Josh Downs if you buy an exposure. 105 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,680 Blanket, we'll give you another gift card. 106 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,720 How do I buy, how do I buy an actual exposure blanket into my 107 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,280 exposures 'cause I haven't been taking a lot of Josh Downs and I 108 00:05:39,280 --> 00:05:42,000 saw that quote from Chris. How are you not I'm taking Josh 109 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,400 dance this dude cuz I. I don't take a lot of receivers 110 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,920 in that range. I'm really idealistic about how 111 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,440 I'm building receivers early and then but I've I've taken some of 112 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,120 him, but I was like, man, I don't think I even have a 4% 113 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,720 blanket and I definitely need to get there. 114 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:59,360 I have a 14% quilt. Really good. 115 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,680 I'm also really concerned about the passable, even that offense. 116 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,400 Well, the other thing is I have, I don't even have, I don't not 117 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:06,560 sure I have a sham. Wow. 118 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:11,680 On, on Michael Pittman. Yeah, I've got a 1% towel. 119 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,240 So. My bikini. 120 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:18,520 I don't take Pitman, but my I, the RPO research I did last year 121 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,120 and the fact that they ran so many RPOS even after Richardson 122 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,400 got hurt. We're up, but. 123 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,800 All right, Puka, JT Barkley, the Titans. 124 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,720 Who do you like? Definitely Puka. 125 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,240 I wonder if we should grab La Porta 'cause I don't think we'll 126 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,120 get an elite tight end at 3-4. Do you guys think structurally 127 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,560 speaking we should maybe go? I don't like 30 second clocks in 128 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,480 these. Cause the the chasers are gonna 129 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,400 want the tight ends more than the running backs. 130 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,880 Right and especially tight end premium, I think it's gonna be 131 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,080 tricky to get and we can take multiple tight ends if we get a 132 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,080 price we like later. But I I kind of like this spot 133 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:54,440 from the 12th to get I like. It. 134 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,720 Yeah, I should. Yeah, Sorry, Go ahead. 135 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:00,800 We were talking about Josh Downs. 136 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,640 Well, I was saying. RPO point they were a second 137 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,640 they they threw the second most passes off RP OS per per 138 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,800 football reference last year. And the the whole write up in 139 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,080 research on that was that it concentrates targets to the to 140 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,120 the wide receiver one because of the lineman are run blocking and 141 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,320 you can't get to your progression. 142 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,840 So you like if you pull the ball and it becomes a past attempt, 143 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,000 it has to be the first read. And I believe that's why Michael 144 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:28,200 Pittman saw a big, I do too. Yeah, I I agree. 145 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,720 And so, yeah, I just think Down's a super good outside of 146 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,520 that. Yeah, yeah. 147 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,400 My concern is though with the lack of overall pass volume if 148 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,520 you are going to be second in total. 149 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,560 You know passes in RP OS as well that that like even if downs is 150 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,000 super, super good in the rest of that subset that there's only 151 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,520 like 400 other pass attempts and it's. 152 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,720 Like, but that's that assumes that they're going to give the 153 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,960 RP OS at the same frequency to Pittman when Downs was really 154 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,600 just as good as him before the knee injury. 155 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,840 And that was without him getting all that RPO stuff and was a 156 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,760 rookie and is now going to second season. 157 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,240 I think it's very fragile to assume that Pittman's going to 158 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,200 get that work again. It's almost like running back 159 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,400 carries or something where it's sort of like it was scheme 160 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,680 touches in a sense. And so I'm betting on the chaos 161 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,520 of like, I bet he gets less of those scheme touches. 162 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,560 Even if there was a bunch of scheme touches in the passing 163 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,360 game, more of them are going to go to Downs this year than they 164 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,440 did last year. Some of the per route stuff for 165 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:25,840 the Dolphins would speak to this. 166 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,320 We're like, yeah, I always talk about how Tyreke's easily the 167 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,360 the top per out run guy and then Waddle's still way up there. 168 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:33,799 So I think they both get some of it. 169 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:36,400 They're another team that's very high on RP OS and I think you're 170 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:37,679 right. Like it doesn't just have to be 171 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,919 the number one passing. Option, it's the number one won 172 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:41,440 that play. It's on the play. 173 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,799 It's like the only guy you can run an RPO it. 174 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:47,160 Just tends to be the guy who's the easiest quick winner, but it 175 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,160 might be downs. Downs might be the quickest 176 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:50,920 winner on the team now. Like for real? 177 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,800 Yeah, yeah, I didn't get more Downs. 178 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,760 Regardless, I think he's really good. 179 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,760 I was super into him as a prospect last year. 180 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,320 And then hearing Ballard like they're like, what do you think 181 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,800 about the receiving core? He starts to talk about other 182 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,360 players. He's like, but I, I just really 183 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,200 want to point out that Josh Downs is like better than all 184 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:11,600 underline Josh Downs. I took him in like 3 slows this 185 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,120 morning. After I saw that I was like I 186 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,800 got to get more downs. And the pricing is just we, we 187 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,320 have, you know, we've seen this in years past with like we kind 188 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,360 of did this with the Broncos couple years in a row where we 189 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,720 were like, it's a Judy year and it was a sudden year. 190 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,240 It's a sudden year and it was a Judy year. 191 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:32,960 And it's just like a very, very, very confident, you know, target 192 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,040 pecking order that we have that is not in line with how how 193 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,920 different these players are in skill level. 194 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,320 Like, and I have a lot of Eddie Mitchell too, because he's he's 195 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,360 pretty cheap and like if you look at more. 196 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,360 Of him. Yeah, if you look at the ceiling 197 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,120 outcomes like Eddie Mitchell could easily be the best wide 198 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,200 receiver on the team. Probably not as much of the RPO 199 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,640 stuff, but like just winning downfield in a way that you know 200 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,160 pigment downs aren't. That's why I take Mitchell over 201 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:56,960 Downs. I'm like. 202 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,360 Better I I take Mitchell over Downs too, because he goes 203 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,760 earlier and the ceiling is so juicy and the weekly ceiling and 204 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,000 everything. But Downs is cheap, man. 205 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,720 Like it's you can, you can get both. 206 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,400 I get both a lot because I take, I take a lot of Richardson. 207 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,640 So I have a ton of like Richardson, Mitchell Downs 208 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,840 teams. We're definitely not on underdog 209 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,400 anymore. Only three wide receiver picks 210 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,240 in the second round, Marvin, Harrison, Drake, Lennon, Olave. 211 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,960 We see four tight ends go off the board after we take Laporta, 212 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,600 Kelsey, McBride, Kincaid and Andrews and then four running 213 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,160 backs. Henry a couple double running 214 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,440 back starts Taylor to the Bijan team, HN to the Breece team and 215 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,560 then the one hole went CMC Barkley and then kicks off pits 216 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,920 there at the start. So I should have some fun team 217 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,800 shaping up here. Yeah, one part of that down 218 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,640 thing that you just mentioned at the end, not to completely go 219 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,480 back to it, but you, you take a lot of Richardson I, I'm 220 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,160 underweight on Richardson, I'm underweight, all the elite Q BS 221 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,360 in general and. It's hard to be overweight. 222 00:10:55,680 --> 00:11:00,480 Yeah, I, I've, I've been kind of like pulling stuff towards Lamar 223 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,040 recently and then I'm like, am I underweight Alan now? 224 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,880 And then I've been underweight Mahomes, even though I take a 225 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,320 lot of Kelsey Worthy and Rice, but I don't end up with Mahomes 226 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,720 a ton. Those are the ones I'm forcing 227 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,120 in Hertz and Allen and Lamar. You don't have quite enough 228 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,800 Hertz. I think I'm even with Hertz, but 229 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,120 I should definitely be overweight in the fourth like 230 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:22,080 but you with the tight ends and with trying to stay strong wide 231 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,760 receiver and with not completely ignoring running back early like 232 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,560 it's it's difficult. It's honestly difficult. 233 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,800 I was going to say, especially with Stroud falling, because 234 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,480 he's the one that I feel I can get and I like the price on and 235 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,480 I'm still getting some of him where it's like it's almost like 236 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,520 QB window now. It's not elite QB because he's 237 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,160 like going so you can get him at like pick 80 and it's like, all 238 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,560 right, well, that's a different bet at pick 80, totally. 239 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:44,520 But you never get Richardson to fall that far. 240 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,360 It just doesn't happen. No, it really doesn't because 241 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,640 you can take him unstacked so easily because you have the two 242 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,440 options. He's a running quarterback. 243 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:56,840 If you only get one of Downser Mitchell, that's totally fine. 244 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,160 So and and like, if you were to end up with naked Richardson, 245 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,840 it's it's not the plan, but it's not like the end of the world. 246 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:09,280 So and I also take Richardson a lot with Kelsey. 247 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,680 You know, I take him with flowers, I take him with 248 00:12:12,680 --> 00:12:17,000 Andrews, I take him to cover when I've got a weapon of elite 249 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,520 quarterback and I don't get the elite quarterback. 250 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,400 I like pivoting to Richardson a lot. 251 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:27,080 All right. We are about to pick on the turn 252 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:32,320 here. We see is that Austin Eckler, am 253 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,280 I seeing that right? Austin Eckler was drafted in the 254 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:39,400 third round, All right. That's an auto pick, so somebody 255 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,800 put Eckler in their queue. Is that the Davis Maddox star 256 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,480 method? This is why, why, why was he 257 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,080 start? Why was he start? 258 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,400 I don't. Know it's the Davis Maddox star 259 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,480 method. It was no a different star 260 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,960 method. It was the same method. 261 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:59,600 It's the Jay Timber Star method. So we're about to pick your ETN 262 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:04,560 falls is kind of the is one of the ADP values there is like 263 00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:08,960 Pacheco, Iuke Evans, Ingram, Josh Allen, neighbors, Devante. 264 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,480 I mean, neighbors is pretty fun. Yeah, neighbors I, I would love 265 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,080 to take is one of these. We don't have a we do. 266 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,720 Have a I'll put neighbors in the queue. 267 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,080 I I really like ETN at this price relative to some of these 268 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,360 other ones too. I mean when Eckler comes off the 269 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,240 board. What about the other receivers 270 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,840 available? Yeah, you're looking at the Ayuk 271 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,080 Evans, Devante Smith. What? 272 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,000 Oh, oh, we went on auto. No, we're go away. 273 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,600 OK, OK. No, we're good. 274 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:38,880 We're good. I I turned it off. 275 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:43,760 Yeah, yeah, just. Think I'd be Evans or Smith but 276 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,400 digs is the I'm OK with or dig I think I'd be Evans or Smith. 277 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,000 I'd be OK with ETN though, if you want to go that route. 278 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,600 I think we can go Etni think we'll get, we're feeling like 279 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,920 we'll get some. We're 2D2 stores through four. 280 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,560 I mean, yeah, it's a little. Different world over here let's 281 00:13:58,560 --> 00:13:59,720 go ET let's. Do ETN. 282 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,320 I'm. I'm jumping on your. 283 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,480 I like what you're doing here. I wanted to receive it for the 284 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,960 record. We might get avalanched. 285 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,000 Well, we, it, it is, it is a tough calculus, right? 286 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:16,200 Because we, we talked about this when we did our preview last 287 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,800 week of kind of the FFPC landscape and now we're in our 288 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,120 main event draft right now for you YouTube members, we've been 289 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,120 posting mini sods. The first two are up through 4 290 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:32,240 rounds and there's definitely a a choke on running backs and 291 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,240 where a lot of the really good running backs come in a range, 292 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,040 you really want to be taking wide receivers. 293 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,600 And I've kind of like the builds where you get one of these 294 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,720 running backs. We did Breece Hall, spoiler 295 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,720 alert in our our main event there and I feel like it's just 296 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,840 opened up so much flexibility to us. 297 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,640 It doesn't preclude us from taking one of those running 298 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,040 backs, but it I just think is the path for for the best 299 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,600 structural building here. And also you only have to start 300 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,920 two receivers. I mean I do I understand like 301 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,880 the avalanche is a concern, but if you get stuck in an avalanche 302 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:06,400 in these rooms you can pivot to attacking flux other ways. 303 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:07,720 Especially with Titan premium as well. 304 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,840 Like if if wide receivers go off really heavy here, we might be 305 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,840 looking at tight end picks that we like at the 5-6 turn 306 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,360 potentially which are options as well. 307 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,800 I think there's other outs in FFPC build structure as well. 308 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,320 Yeah, I just don't love ETN at this price. 309 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,120 Yeah, I just would rather. Take. 310 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,440 We're getting guys going at the 2-3 turn on underdog versus a 311 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:34,360 guy going get the 4-5 turn on underdog, and to me, I'd just 312 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,400 rather have the receivers of the two. 3:00 but that but those but 313 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,560 those AD PS are entirely because of the being. 314 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:40,480 Able. Not entirely. 315 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:41,920 I mean, it's only Evans. Who? 316 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:44,920 Were. The other receivers, Devonta 317 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,400 Smith, went in the middle of the third round. 318 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,280 Smith's going on like the two three turn, I mean. 319 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:51,600 We didn't have an option of. Drafting. 320 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:52,960 Oh. Oh, I thought. 321 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,200 Smith So it was only Mike Evans and then Dick. 322 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,960 Yeah, OK. Pete mentioned Mike Evans, but 323 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,760 he also mentioned. Like DJ Moore. 324 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:03,040 Is a guy that's split, Yeah. Oh, DJ Moore. 325 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,400 DJ Moore was the one he could have taken. 326 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:05,960 OK. Yeah, I think Evans. 327 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,720 I mean, I don't even love Evans, but you know, he's pretty strong 328 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,480 wide receiver pick and you just kind of stack, stack wide 329 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,480 receivers would be my preference. 330 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,440 Yeah, that's fair. ETN is like he's fine. 331 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,960 KMC in the chat said, would you ever consider McBride at 2:01 332 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,160 for the week 17 correlation or is Laporta just a very different 333 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:29,200 tier? We talked about like I, I'm 334 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,000 probably going to have McBride this month, Titan one. 335 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:32,920 I don't think it's a different tier at all. 336 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,240 And I just wanted to tell Kim, I think that's an awesome strategy 337 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,040 and you should definitely do that if you get that 338 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,480 opportunity. I wish we we would have talked 339 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,280 about doing that. I've. 340 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,800 Been fine with it because it's especially in this format where 341 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,040 week 17 really still matters a ton. 342 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,240 It's not like the three-week Sprint format like in the main 343 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,000 event. And I mean, I'm not as high on 344 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,160 McBride as you are, but if he hits, he's going to hit an 345 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,320 extremely friendly way for Titan premium. 346 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,680 Like if he hits, I think if you're like a little bit more 347 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,800 McBride skeptical, making sure you're tilting your McBride 348 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,680 exposure towards the most PPR you can is, is probably a good 349 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:15,280 way to, you know, not have a huge bag and still be happy if 350 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,160 he goes off. And I know this is the dumb way 351 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,200 to talk about it, but it is. You're like, if you're doing 352 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,680 your one draft here and McBride's your guy, like take 353 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,079 McBride right here, you know, we're gonna end up doing a 354 00:17:25,079 --> 00:17:26,440 handful of these. We're gonna have a bunch of main 355 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:27,680 events. And we actually talked through 356 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,880 this similar concept on the 1st or the 2nd Main event mini Sod 357 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,280 episode, where we're thinking, because McBride's ADP has a 358 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,720 range where he falls kind of smack dab in the middle of round 359 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,440 two, you're gonna have a lot of cracks at him if you're doing 360 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,360 multiple drafts. And so that's the only thing 361 00:17:44,360 --> 00:17:46,920 where it's like Laporta, you're only going to have cracks at him 362 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,320 at basically the 1-2 turn. So if you want any Laporta, 363 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,080 that's when you have to grab. It and somebody was asking in 364 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:58,240 the AMA yesterday about, you know, if you only have a couple, 365 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,200 a couple shots at the BBM, like they, they, he had said that he 366 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,720 kind of feels a little discouraged because he's going 367 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,720 up against a bunch of people that are Max entering and all 368 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,440 these things. And Pete, you had some, some 369 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,960 good advice for him. I, I went with a little bit of a 370 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,560 different angle than than you did, which your advice was about 371 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,440 like content selection and stuff, which is really strong 372 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,880 advice as well. But mine was like, I actually 373 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,840 think in some ways there's an advantage to that where the the 374 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,080 150 drafters are balancing portfolios. 375 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:27,520 We're intentionally not taking our favorite picks sometimes 376 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,680 because we are doing some of the things that you just said. 377 00:18:30,120 --> 00:18:32,160 I think when you're drafting against those people, we talk 378 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,040 about this, they're not going to steal your quarterback and and 379 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,480 then snipe in that stuff. There must much less likely to 380 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,560 take an unstacked pocket passer and and wind up blowing up your 381 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,400 stack. You it's almost like a a nice 382 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,560 thing to draft against badge Bros because they stay in their 383 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:44,760 lane. You know, it doesn't actually 384 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,840 mess with your draft too much. The one thing you might miss is 385 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,000 like some real followers. But there I think the advantage 386 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,240 I would say if you're only doing a couple, you know, BBM drafts 387 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,000 is you can chart your own path. Like we talked about the 388 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,560 differentiation, like if you want to go Nuka McBride like 389 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:05,320 this, Puka McBride like this, it's a very unique idea. 390 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,680 And because you care more about that one draft than any 150 Max 391 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,920 is going to care about any of their one draft. 392 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,360 You know, they're not going to care more about 10 of their 393 00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:16,280 drafts than you will about your one draft. 394 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,440 Like you're going to come up with some unique stuff like this 395 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,520 that I think you should approach and you should, you should try 396 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,280 and you should go after. I think it's you're still going 397 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:28,400 to be at A at a a disadvantage from total number of entries. 398 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,720 But that's just the the. Reality of. 399 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,040 It you only have a few teams, they have 150 teams, but each 400 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,640 team is going up against the same number of total entries in 401 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,120 the contest, right? And you're one team. 402 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,000 You can chart this path. Like Pete was saying, we're 403 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,800 like, I like this guy a lot. I'm going to pull him up, build 404 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,800 something unique. And I think, I mean, I think 405 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:51,040 it's kind of an advantage. It's not an advantage because 406 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,600 you're going against like when you drafted volume and you kind 407 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:59,320 of let the room try to give you some amazing stuff. 408 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,160 You will get that amazing stuff from time to time. 409 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,120 So if you just leave yourself open to it over a large sample, 410 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,160 you're going to get like a sick version of a team that someone 411 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,080 who reaches for it to make sure they have it will get but it 412 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,320 requires. Throwing some teams away in the 413 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,360 sense like the one that doesn't work or, or throwing some better 414 00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:21,800 versions of the team that you would have liked away. 415 00:20:23,360 --> 00:20:26,880 And if you're doing like three teams, the odds that one of 416 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,000 those teams falls into your lap in those three teams are pretty 417 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,360 low. So I don't have any issue with 418 00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:32,640 like making sure you get a team you're really happy with. 419 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,920 But I also would say it does put you at a disadvantage in the 420 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,560 sense that like if you're drafting with the mindset of 421 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:43,840 like, I'm going to try to push for some of these insane combos 422 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,560 to come my way, You will get some of those combos over a 423 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,000 large sample. But it's more of a best ball 424 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,000 thing than even a main event thing because it's hard to have 425 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,480 this. DFS and and I think the 150 Max 426 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,240 Vision. Hangout We're on the clock, so 427 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,320 wide receivers available by ADP, Hollywood Brown, Keenan Allen, 428 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,400 Calvin Ridley, Jane Reed, Roshi Rice would probably be the 429 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,920 interesting names here. I mean. 430 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,520 That feels good, Keenan. Yeah. 431 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,640 Keenan feels awesome. I also have no problem grabbing 432 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,600 Rashi rice here either. I think rice is worthy gone or 433 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,000 worthy goes later. Worthies. 434 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,120 Worthies later. Yep. 435 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,520 OK, let's go Rice. All right, Keenan and Rice. 436 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,160 Yeah. And, and I mean, we could go, 437 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,600 yeah, we could go Rice, we could go Jayden Reed, I think as a as 438 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:30,480 a solid play. Do you? 439 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,320 Want Reed or rice? I like both. 440 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,960 I I OK, OK, let's. Do this just because we only 441 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,880 because we took the 2D tours Pat you seem to be I I was thinking 442 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,240 because you're concerned about the wide receiver depth like 443 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,360 games played risk here but. I I do think what you were 444 00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:50,360 saying, Ben, the the DFS analogy is actually pretty good, right? 445 00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:54,160 Because if someone's making A-150 Max set, you know that it 446 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,600 is a way more of a portfolio exercise for them of like, how 447 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,000 do I get the certain exposures in this DFS tournament? 448 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:03,880 Whereas the single entry hand builder, like they're kind of 449 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,280 like trying to accomplish different things of like I'm 450 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,000 going to make the best version of the lineup I can make for 451 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,000 this week. I do think there's some 452 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,800 comparables there. There's there's definitely 453 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,320 comparables. I think it's easier in DFS. 454 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,240 The case that I've made is that you know, the parameters in the 455 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,680 in the week and like weekly projections are way better than 456 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,760 season long projections, way more accurate because you know 457 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,720 the parameters going in. And it's also nine man line UPS 458 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,760 that you can correlate like meaningfully. 459 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,800 And so you can build for certain contingent scenarios and people 460 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,640 that are really good at 150 maxi can build for some, you know, 461 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,360 scenarios that if you're hand building, you might not actually 462 00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:38,960 like, you might not have the best version of that team. 463 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,520 Like Pat was talking about it in best ball. 464 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,920 I think it's easier for the one 50s that are really good in DFS 465 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:50,320 to build the best versions of things because it's known in in 466 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,480 season long and best ball, it's a moving target throughout the 467 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:53,440 year. We don't know what's going to 468 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,560 happen in week 3, let alone what's going to happen in week 469 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:56,720 17. We know that. 470 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,160 And it's also an 18 man roster. And so I think like the idea 471 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,520 that A-150 maxer would be able to build like correlated line 472 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,640 UPS in such a better way that they would be in a way better 473 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,000 advantage in any one of their individual lineups. 474 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,800 To me, it doesn't it doesn't pour it over, mainly because I 475 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,680 think the projections are going to be a lot weaker and I'm not 476 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,480 going to be able to understand. And also because I think like it 477 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,400 is to me, the the the best ball things more of an exercise in a 478 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,080 portfolio. Because I think some of the guys 479 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,680 who do 150 just pick like two games and then they stack it so 480 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,640 many different ways that they have that if that game blows up, 481 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,560 they have like everything from that game covered that week. 482 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,040 You know what I mean? They have like the ancillary 483 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,200 pieces. Ancillary. 484 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,120 Well, my brother corrected on that. 485 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,120 People are now using Sims and they can not only dial in the 486 00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:46,760 exposures, but all of them are actually going to be really well 487 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,120 correlated. Lines like perfect and I don't 488 00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:51,160 think you can do that in basketball. 489 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,600 I don't. It's so hard to get a perfect 490 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,200 eighteen man roster, even when stuff falls to you. 491 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,320 Like you're saying, Pat, like my argument would be like, OK, 492 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,560 well, you have like you probably have like an extra fifth round 493 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,080 pick because of that 'cause you got some good values throughout. 494 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,880 But that fifth round pick could just be a, a wash in the long 495 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:07,480 run. Like it does. 496 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,200 The teams that win in best ball aren't perfect. 497 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,200 The teams that win in in DFS are perfect. 498 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,280 You know what I mean? Yeah, although they're not 499 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:16,440 usually perfect. Perfect. 500 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,960 Yeah, the what? I guess what I'm saying with 501 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,680 the. They don't have misses right in 502 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,680 in basketball, there's misses in the 18 rounds usually. 503 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,760 Yeah, sure. Yeah, there, Yeah, there are 504 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,480 with any and you're playing for the tournaments, you know, a 505 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,920 half a year away. So it's almost impossible not to 506 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,240 have misses. But the just on the point of the 507 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,840 ADP value, it's kind of like compared to DFS, it would be 508 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:46,320 like, what if there's a button on your DFS lineups where the 509 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,560 system randomly assigned you a player with a salary band of, 510 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,920 and it's just one spot on your lineup and salary band between 511 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,960 like 5K and 7K on DraftKings. But you didn't know and it cost 512 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:04,160 like 6K to, to use that, to use that button for that, for that 513 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,320 player. If you're running 150 set, like 514 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,240 probably using the button. If you're running, if you're 515 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,680 building 1 lineup and it's like representing a, you know, maybe 516 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,040 it's like a pretty big size of your bankroll. 517 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,440 I don't know if I use the button, you know, I want to 518 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,640 build the lineup the way I want to build it. 519 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:27,360 But like there's something that can be plus EV, but you're like, 520 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,640 yeah, but is it going to actually like occur in this? 521 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,840 Like am I, I'm running enough lineups to where I feel good 522 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,240 about the thing actually happening because it when it 523 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,920 doesn't happen, it's I feel like it's negative EV because I 524 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,400 didn't get to pick the player on this lineup that I that I like 525 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,120 the most. Does that analogy make sense? 526 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,760 That that does, I think we're thinking about it pretty 527 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,640 differently, which is like, fine, I don't think what you're 528 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,520 saying is wrong, but I think I'm approaching it from this 529 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,840 perspective of like that, that the idea in the in the chat that 530 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,880 that sparked this thought for me was the puka Trey McBride thing. 531 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,280 And I just I think that would create a really unique. 532 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,960 I mean, it won't be super unique because people will go 10 533 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,640 sometimes in McBride about two O 3. 534 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,320 But those types of thoughts and and those types of approaches, 535 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,080 like I agree with you that you wouldn't get the perfect 'cause 536 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,080 you have to reach in some cases to do like to, to carve out a 537 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,240 certain path in your build or whatever. 538 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,480 And I agree with you that like individuals that are doing their 539 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,800 one draft and going and getting their guys are not going to have 540 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,280 the best version of those builds. 541 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,280 But I also think. That's OK. 542 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,360 Be more thoughtful. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 543 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,840 I think they could build some really thoughtful constructions 544 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,200 'cause they're actually focused. I'm like, man, I'm doing 100 545 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,600 drafts right now and I do I'm, they're not very thoughtful. 546 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,320 My slow drafts, I'll just put it that way. 547 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,000 And a lot of the stuff that we do is exposure related. 548 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,760 Or I mean is, is, yeah, it's exposure related. 549 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,160 We're like, we're just throwing on players at the end. 550 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,120 Like you guys in the fast drafts and stuff are throwing on 551 00:26:56,120 --> 00:26:58,640 players at the end that are like stack or correlated. 552 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,800 And because you also haven't drafted enough of them and you 553 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,160 want to get some of them, you don't really believe in it right 554 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,920 in that pick. And that could hit still, but I 555 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,280 don't know, You're like intent. You're intentionally taking a 556 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,200 suboptimal pick like SAC. Religious wrote about that a 557 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,880 little bit this this offseason. Yeah. 558 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,200 You're mixing in a little bit of a suboptimal. 559 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,840 Yeah, yeah. But you're with the idea that 560 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,560 it's part of a portfolio that's not suboptimal to include 561 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,440 because we, because there's so much variance, we just don't, 562 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,120 right. We just don't know. 563 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,840 All right. I think we're going to be able 564 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,920 to capture the end of a pretty big wide receiver tier coming up 565 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,280 here, the players available by ADP, DeAndre Hopkins, Jordan 566 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,920 Addison. Hopkins Goes Addison, Keon 567 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,200 Coleman, Brian Thomas and then you're down to the Jameson, 568 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,840 Williams, Sutton, Samuel stuff. I'm Thomas there. 569 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,440 BT Thomas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 570 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,280 What about the other positions? The other positions you're 571 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,400 looking Romandre Montgomery, Zamir White, Joe Burrow, DeAndre 572 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,960 Swift, Jonathan Brooks, Naji Harris, monster Jalen Warren. 573 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,560 I mean, I'd be, I'd be into Brooks or or Warren if we go 574 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,160 away from receiver. I, I think if we were worried 575 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,480 about the ETM pick, we should grab the end of this tier with 576 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,200 one of Addison or if you consider Coleman, I don't like 577 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,520 that. I don't like Addison with rice 578 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,080 so much. I don't either, but we do have 579 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,760 four other receivers and it is back weighted. 580 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,080 I, I mean, I actually, I don't mind it. 581 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,200 We're getting the right price on it. 582 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,680 I I would. Yeah, two rookies and a 583 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,240 suspended guy. Who do you want? 584 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,520 That who's your value? You want Coleman. 585 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,240 I mean, I would want one of the running backs, but I if you guys 586 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,880 are both Addison, take Addison. I like Addison. 587 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,440 Yeah, I like Addison. I don't have as much concern 588 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,200 about the Addison Rice thing personally. 589 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,000 We don't know the suspensions on either. 590 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,640 Well. According to Draco, we took one. 591 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,040 Of the most expensive shares of Rashi Rice in this tournament. 592 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,560 So we're playing it as he is, not suspended at all. 593 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,200 I just to me, I'll all I all I hear is this tournament's kind 594 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,680 of soft that's. Hasn't gotten a Flint since. 595 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,040 Yeah, and we took him six O 1. I, I, I'm not playing in this 596 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:07,720 enough. That's what. 597 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,840 That's what jerko's telling me. That's true. 598 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,440 Yeah. I mean, yeah. 599 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,760 And and you could definitely, you know, maybe we say that that 600 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,400 we prefer that 2V2 of like Evans Brooks versus Etienne and 601 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,640 Addison. That's definitely fair. 602 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:31,160 But I I think it's close. I mean, we we do have two 603 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,920 rookies that we need to count on early now, but Neighbors and BTJ 604 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,240 are both day one starters. They're both first round picks, 605 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,440 right? Yeah. 606 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,840 Yeah, Neighbors is like day one, number one. 607 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,920 Yeah, I guess when I said right, I was thinking it maybe BTJ is 608 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,600 not May. I'm calling me out. 609 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,480 Maybe it's soft due to the auto drafters? 610 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,720 You bet you didn't mean this room. 611 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,640 You bet the contest in general. No, but I think he's he's 612 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,880 referring to what preparing to me autograph doesn't doesn't. 613 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,240 Log into the site. Autographs the whole team. 614 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,680 So our team so far, we got the five wide receivers, puka 615 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,440 neighbors Keenan, Rashi Rice, Brian Thomas and Jordan Addison 616 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,120 are sorry, up to six. And then we got Sam La Porta at 617 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,920 tight end and ETN at running back. 618 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,400 Yeah, I I definitely do prefer the the Evans Brooks side of 619 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,400 that two V2. I don't know if you guys are. 620 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,160 Well then you're just running into the same concerns about 621 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,000 early season production. Well, when I said Brooks, I 622 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,240 really meant Warren. Destroyed by your own facts and 623 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,440 logic. Evans, Warren versus ETN, 624 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,000 Addison, I think I'm taking well. 625 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,920 I mean, I don't really like Evans, but I can see why you 626 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,040 would like the Evans one side. I think I'm taking ET on 627 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,120 Addison, but I can see that. Yeah. 628 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,320 I think Addison once like, look, I understand the suspension 629 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:57,560 risk. I understand all that stuff. 630 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,280 He has a really good Year 2 profile. 631 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,080 He's a strong prospect, very productive at two different 632 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,800 places in college, comes in immediately efficient, not a 633 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,840 massive target owner, but good enough for a rookie, for a young 634 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,880 rookie, for an early declare. I mean, there's like nothing to 635 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,480 not like about Addison, but people are just sort of bored of 636 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,080 him and the situation's bad. But we have a really good idea. 637 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,000 There's not nothing to that that I think I mean he wasn't like a 638 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,480 1.50 yards per outrun. He was good. 639 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,080 I, I don't think he's bad at all and I think he's an interesting 640 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,360 player as a second year breakup that, but like you've got Sam 641 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,760 Darnold as your quarterback, probably best case, worst case 642 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,800 JJ McCarthy and that's probably down the stretch and the 643 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,400 suspension risk thing. I think in some ways it's more 644 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,640 concerning than Rice because Rice we might lose half the 645 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,360 season, but I would imagine it's either the first half of this 646 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,600 season or the first half of next season. 647 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,760 Addison's in a position where it's kind of a cookie cutter 648 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,600 three-game suspension that he's looking at and there's precedent 649 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,120 of them handing that out as soon as it's resolved, which might 650 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,560 mean he misses the fantasy playoffs. 651 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,360 That's not that's not impossible. 652 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,400 So that's like, that's a just such a disaster. 653 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,880 What's the president of that? The president is a defensive 654 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,920 player who had a DUI and got suspended for the last few games 655 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,640 of the season A couple years ago. 656 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,480 Or you. Or maybe last year, Sam Sherman 657 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,760 did a deep dive on this player. Who you can't name on a year 658 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,320 that you can't name. Because I didn't do the 659 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,720 research, but Sam shared with me that there's a defensive player. 660 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,600 He's a defensive player, Ben. You know, you cut me some slack 661 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:35,040 here, but it was, it's the, the point being that the DUI stuff 662 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,000 is not like they've got to sit down and figure out what the 663 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,400 right suspension length is. Like. 664 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,840 They know what it is. It's going to be three games and 665 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,680 it happens as soon as the DUI, you know, legal proceedings 666 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,280 conclude. And that might be pretty soon, 667 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:56,760 but not before the season, which it's just it's just like an 668 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,800 additional kind of like God damn if, if I lose this guy late in 669 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:06,320 the season, that's it's hard to quantify. 670 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,600 How bad that is, But it's I would like to know the details 671 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,240 of the player, but if that's a real thing, like I can 672 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,320 understand that concern. But where I was going, I I hear 673 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,480 your point about the 1.5 yards per hour run, but he was really 674 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,240 efficient. We tend to expect more volume 675 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,600 the next year. The big reason is yards per 676 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,720 outrun was a little bit lower was that he he had a 17% targets 677 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,480 per outrun which is good but not great but. 678 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,720 If that's the don't we care about that more than yards per 679 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,880 target? The yards per target leads to 680 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,400 more the the efficiency fantasy efficiency leads to more volume 681 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,040 the next year in year two players. 682 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,720 Blair Andrews has done a ton of work on that and it's like very 683 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,920 conclusive. And so the 10 TDs matter as 684 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,880 well. But the yards per target and the 685 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,440 TDs is, is like it's he was really efficient and he was a 21 686 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,600 year old rookie playing with Justin Jefferson with the as far 687 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:52,800 as the target volume is concerned. 688 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,040 Like I think he actually saw more volume with Jefferson, but 689 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,560 then also was playing in like a really shitty passing game after 690 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,560 Cousins got hurt. So I mean, there's like caveats 691 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,800 both ways, but I so This is why I'm like, I think he's good. 692 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,760 Like he was really efficient. I think he's good too. 693 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,920 I think yardage touchdowns really good in college across 694 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,719 all three years, across two different offenses, 25 plus 695 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,320 targets per outrun, 3 different seasons efficient, the final two 696 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,040 very good yards per outrun in college. 697 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,280 There's a lot of reasons to think Jordan Addison's just a 698 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,960 good football player. It's a bad situation, I'll grant 699 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,040 that. But I was going to say that I 700 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,639 think he's being held down by that and the fact that we now 701 00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:28,480 get him and like Keon Coleman's really the only opportunity cost 702 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,239 and it's the end of the wide receiver window. 703 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,120 I'm willing to take the suspension risk. 704 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,080 Now. When you start talking about the 705 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,120 suspension potentially being in weeks 151617, that's when I get 706 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,239 a little afraid. And it's hard to, it's just hard 707 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,199 to know when it, we just don't know when it will be. 708 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:47,120 And that risk is low. But it's such a disaster. 709 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,199 That would be a disaster. I agree. 710 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,600 All right, real quick, 'cause we're about to be on the clock. 711 00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:55,199 A few options here. Pat Friarmouth falls at tight 712 00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:59,080 end quarterback Trevor Lawrence. If we wanted to stack up with BT 713 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,160 and ETN, the best available running backs are the IS, Tajay 714 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,240 Spears, Devante Williams, Chase Brown. 715 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,680 So I like the Lawrence idea. Forgetting. 716 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,680 I like the Lawrence idea too. And I like those running backs 717 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,600 Taijay Jafal and Chase Brown. Friarmouth is the ADP. 718 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,160 Faller OK, let's let's go Trevor Lawrence by like honestly. 719 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,440 On the site. I think Javonte is just a smash 720 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:24,080 at this point. I. 721 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,680 Mean, I I think you're the smartest guy I've ever heard. 722 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,440 This whole thing, I said this on ADP chasing, Davis disagreed in 723 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,480 the sense that Estimate was he. He's buying some of the estimate 724 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,200 stuff. Did you Do you not like Javonte 725 00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:40,960 Pete? No, I would I would take Spears 726 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,480 over him now. I just like the it's not even 727 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,000 saying you guys are wrong about it. 728 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,600 It's just like he's going to be he's going to continue to get 729 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:48,360 cheaper. I. 730 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,120 Think I don't think so. I think it is flipped. 731 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:52,880 Did you see the Peyton stuff yesterday? 732 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,400 Oh, just that he's in really good shape. 733 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,120 Peyton was gushing. He had this whole thing that 734 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,320 they met in the offseason. He had his college tape on and 735 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,880 he was like, this is the this is the back I want. 736 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,360 What did what did you weigh here? 737 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,080 And he was like, I don't know, like, wait, like two O 5. 738 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,600 He's like get down to that weight. 739 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,080 And then he showed up and he was like he looked trim. 740 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,680 He looked faster. He basically did exactly what I 741 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,560 asked him to do and he looks awesome and Peyton. 742 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,640 I like any of the concern like any and he mentioned like look, 743 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,600 he was hurt last year. He looks different now. 744 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,680 He looks really different now, like. 745 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,760 Has there been a more unreliable narrator in coach? 746 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,480 Beak than Sean Payton than Sean Payton. 747 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,240 With Mims. Who told us he was gonna give a 748 00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:35,880 lot of Mims involved all last year and it. 749 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,720 Was all I, I know he's completely unreliable with Mims, 750 00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:42,240 but it was, it wasn't even just what he was saying. 751 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:45,840 It was like the way he was saying he was like he was very 752 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,640 pleased with the way a player had reacted to what he. 753 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,200 Reacted to that's what I that's the part of that that makes me 754 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,400 excited he's like I asked him to do something and he did it 755 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,800 that's cool and put in the work to. 756 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,680 Do it, put in the work to do it like it's like reshape your body 757 00:36:58,240 --> 00:36:59,280 and he did that's. Exciting. 758 00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:02,720 Yeah. So I just I I think and also 759 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:04,840 that my prior is that. You're right. 760 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,440 Like John Bate's donkey. My prior on on the he will get 761 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,760 cut stuff was that it was most likely total bullshit and just 762 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,920 based on speculation, like not like, you know, anyone trying to 763 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,480 do anything, you know, to like muddy the waters, But just like 764 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,880 it was speculation based on how he did last year, which isn't 765 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,640 particularly valuable for us who are like constantly looking at 766 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,280 how players did the previous year. 767 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,320 So having someone chime in like, oh, you know, he wasn't very 768 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,240 good last year, It's like, we know. 769 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,360 Yeah, we're very aware. We know. 770 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,120 There there was also hype on estimate from camp today too. 771 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,360 Like he's, he's he's he talks glowingly about estimate every 772 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,040 time. They like estimate. 773 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,080 They do like estimate it'll and it will be, it'll be a committee 774 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,840 of, of some sort. But we're down in when Pollard's 775 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,480 in a committee, Spears is in a committee, Chase Brown's in a 776 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,560 committee, you know, I think. This is full PPR and they're 777 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:00,760 going to throw the backs a ton. This. 778 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,080 Is not throw the backs a lot. It may be, but the high value 779 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,160 touches are going to be. Incredible. 780 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,080 Yeah, I think, I think Spears is the better pick there just. 781 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,080 Just for the. Because aren't you getting a lot 782 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,920 of the same things? You're also getting one less 783 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,760 back in the equation. We're also getting week 17 784 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,960 correlation opposite our Jag stuff. 785 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,920 The week 17 correlation's a good point. 786 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,200 The week. 17 I hadn't thought of you. 787 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,720 I, I, I think you're not getting the same thing because the way 788 00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:28,480 I've talked about committee stuff in my high value touch 789 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,520 research is the, the size of the over overall pie dictates 790 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,120 whether they're worth going after. 791 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,840 I think there will be plenty of high value touches in Denver, 792 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,520 which makes that committee worth approaching. 793 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,240 I think Tennessee's offense, Pat and I were talking about this 794 00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:42,560 yesterday in the DMS, but I think Tennessee's offense might 795 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,080 be the worst in the NFL. Like I'm actually pretty out on 796 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,160 it. I like spirits. 797 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,320 He's the one piece that I'm actually willing to take bets 798 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,960 on, But I do think that will limit the high value touches in 799 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,440 that offense. Basically, I think they'll be 800 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,640 some passes, but I don't think they'll be a lot of touchdowns. 801 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,800 And so then you're in a committee in a, in an on offense 802 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,960 with a smaller pie and that becomes less appealing to me. 803 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,640 So I think it's that's different for me between these two. 804 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,240 Yeah, I think there are scenarios where it is like a 805 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,360 like that backfield is divvied up in thirds like pretty evenly. 806 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,600 You know, I think that's also in play for the Broncos. 807 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,040 That's in play. I think the advantage that 808 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:24,280 Javonte has if Estimate makes the team is that he's going to 809 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,760 be the pass protector Jaleel, I mean, unless he really, really 810 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,880 cleans stuff up, he's they don't trust him at all and he's 811 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:36,400 undersized. And then you've got a a day 812 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,560 three rookie, an estimate who was a early down banger. 813 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,040 He wasn't like a a passing down guy in college. 814 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,240 So, you know, Javante could kind of marry some of the P Ryan 815 00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:50,240 stuff with his early down roll from last year. 816 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,440 And yeah, I don't expect him to see like 70% of the snaps. 817 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:59,320 It's probably like 5560. I think if he gets to 60, we're 818 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,720 feeling pretty good. Is is long if as long as the 819 00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:03,040 role is kind of what I'm envisioning? 820 00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:06,600 I don't even know if he needs 60. 821 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,920 I'm, I mean I I seem to have a very different view of Peyton's 822 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:14,880 backfields then than most, but I've made that case many, many 823 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,160 time. I don't need to. 824 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,600 All right, couple updates here. We are starting to pick up speed 825 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,720 a little bit. As Nick mentioned, we got to 826 00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:27,560 pick up the pace to get this to unlock the gift card. 827 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,680 We're about to be on the clock at the 11-12 turn. 828 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,760 Caleb Williams win, so no stack with Keenan. 829 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,720 Just reading off the literal top of the queue here. 2 Nick Chubb, 830 00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:40,160 Jerome 4 Justin Herbert, Zac Charbonnet, Kirk Cousins, 831 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:45,600 Matthew Stafford, Hunter Henry Kendry Miller, Rico Dowdell Wide 832 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,720 Receiver. You do have some of the the 833 00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:49,800 Green Bay guys, although Nope, Dobbs just goes. 834 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,400 Wix is still here. Myers, Mike. 835 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,800 Williams, Josh Downs. What do you like? 836 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,040 Chardonnay's kind of the running back name that jumps out to me 837 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,600 here. That's a good one. 838 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,160 What's up? We're. 839 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,080 We're in the K dot in Noah Fiat. Yeah, that's why I was kind of 840 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,840 intrigued by Briarmouth. The Yammer keynote. 841 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,640 And Noah fan, I'm going to put Charbonnet in while we discuss. 842 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,240 And then any other running backs. 843 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,080 The other running backs you're looking at Chubb, Jerome Ford, 844 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,680 Kendra Miller, Rico Dowdell, Ty Chandler, Julio McLaughlin, 845 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,880 Jalen Wright. I would be intrigued by Dowdell. 846 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,160 I would also go with. I think Phant is honestly in 847 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,240 play and then Wicks or downs are also interesting to me. 848 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:46,120 Yeah, I'm fine with any of that. Dowdle and and Chandler as well. 849 00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:48,120 I I mean, let's do are we seeing 1/4? 850 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,360 To another running back because they're going to get thinned out 851 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,880 fast here. Grab Dowdle. 852 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,800 So we now have 4 running backs, ETN, Givante, Charbonnay and. 853 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,680 Dowdle I mean you get boxed out at tight end on the on the turn. 854 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:02,960 Yeah, you do. Yep. 855 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,200 Wait, we we had Bowers available to us at the five six? 856 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,600 I thought he wasn't on the. I was like trying to find him. 857 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,520 Well, we needed to catch up at wide receiver. 858 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,880 Yeah, I don't know if we. Kind of feel like inside of the 859 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,000 rice pick. Yeah, we should have taken 860 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,520 Bowers just played it as a flex play. 861 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,520 And we could have taken like Downs here instead of Dowdle. 862 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,080 Yeah. I will an update on the Austin 863 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,320 Eckler pick. The manager is in the FFPC chat 864 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,200 says uh, I have zero clue how Eckler auto drafted in the third 865 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,840 round so you know, neither do we. 866 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:46,240 Can't help you someone noting that Jemonte had a 50% snapshare 867 00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:47,880 last year coming off a horrific knee injury. 868 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:53,040 So, but that's I guess there is the the concern with Jemonte is 869 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,560 that they were they really didn't like that and that maybe 870 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:57,800 he would actually lose work from there. 871 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,120 I think the thing that I most disagree with you, Pat, is I 872 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,520 don't think Javonte's gonna win the ADP culture war. 873 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,960 Like I think he is going to get cheaper. 874 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,440 I mean, people are already not bought in. 875 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,320 And yes, that was encouraging today. 876 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,040 But I think the estimate stuff. But people love Julio 877 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,800 McLaughlin. They're gonna point to the two. 878 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,320 It's gonna be similar to like the Packers thing, right? 879 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,440 Where everyone's obsessed with Wix because it's the cheapest 880 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,600 and an ambiguous thing. Like no one wants to, like, 881 00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:28,920 plant their flag on Jaden Reid. Like I just don't see sentiment 882 00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:31,040 ever getting that steamy for Javonte. 883 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,840 Wick, it's going to require kind of what I think will happen to 884 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,560 happen, but what I think will happen is kind of like along the 885 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,960 lines of sort of where James Conner stuff is gone. 886 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,600 We're like normally wouldn't expect Benson, the exciting 887 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,840 rookie to fall and Connor to rise, but I just think that 888 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,640 people are, I think the situation in reality is a lot 889 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,960 more pro Javante than people realize. 890 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,120 And it's starting now to where we would know about that because 891 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,800 they're actually in pads and we're going to, you know, the 892 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:09,360 situation is running the pro. Javante like, I, I think you're 893 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,240 so good at reading that stuff, but when you were saying that I 894 00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:12,800 was just like, that would be insane to me. 895 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,400 No, but I'm not like I'm not saying that's right. 896 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,240 I'm literally saying like you guys don't see like as they talk 897 00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:23,200 about like the the sentiment for ETN or Estimate and McLaughlin. 898 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,240 Like those are literally two. If you did like a Family Feud 899 00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:28,520 style poll of like, who's your favorite clique right now, 900 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,560 McLaughlin and Estimate would be like near the top for the 901 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,560 underdog. The fact is this is the most, 902 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,440 arguably the most undervalued backfield. 903 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,360 I saw somebody in the chat as well, but the sentiment was 904 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,040 like, well, they're going to be. They projected to be one of the 905 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,920 worst offenses in the league and like, fine, but I, I can't do 906 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,400 the whole thing again. But like, go read my newsletter 907 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,160 stuff about how Bonex fits and the target volume and the Sean 908 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,560 Payne history of target volume. They wrote about it at Rotavist. 909 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,960 A lot of people are talking about it, Herzig tweeted the 910 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,880 other day. You know generational wealth is 911 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,320 going to be earned from from buying the Giovante dip. 912 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,720 Like there are people that are like, as soon as this starts to 913 00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:06,760 slide it to a certain degree, they're like, this is insane. 914 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,880 Like Sean Payton's lead back who he gave more touches than all 915 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,920 the other backs in the backfield combined last year off the multi 916 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,920 ligament major knee injury. Who's looking better this year? 917 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,920 Who is pretty clearly the number one except for one beat reporter 918 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,440 speculating make it cut, which like I I read it the same way 919 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:24,960 Pat did. It seems like he just looked at 920 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,080 last year's yards per carry. Yeah. 921 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,360 But my thing is, he said by a generational buying the dip 922 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,640 opportunity, we took him right at ADP, which is kind of my 923 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,680 point. Like we're not actually. 924 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,680 But I think it did. Value from the dip. 925 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:42,440 Yeah, I think the dip has kind of like finished dipping. 926 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:47,080 And also, I don't know, I I do think he's going to be a riser 927 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,200 because like the Connor situation where people realize 928 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,640 like, oh, we had this one wrong. This guy's just the starter. 929 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,360 I think we're going to realize, like over the course of training 930 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,880 camp, people are going to realize that Javonte Williams of 931 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,000 the Broncos starting running back and basically been in line 932 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,080 to do that the entire way. But we just we had it wrong. 933 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,320 The case I was going to make is even if estimating Jaleel rise, 934 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,280 I don't think Javante should fall because I think they're 935 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,400 collectively massively undervalued. 936 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,040 I think Javante's multiple rounds undervalued, which is why 937 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,240 I talk about about every freaking stream that I do solo 938 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,480 and I draft him like 40% of my teams. 939 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:23,000 But I even if you don't believe that and you're in on a estimate 940 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,000 and Jaleel, he's still a steal in this range right now, right? 941 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,800 And if those guys rise, he shouldn't fall like he doesn't 942 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,320 need to fall to compensate that We're low on a backfield that 943 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,520 could have 200 targets like it could be massive. 944 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,800 How many running back targets could they led the league last 945 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,240 year with 153. I think they could go up 33% 946 00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:45,520 from that from. Last year it was a big part of 947 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,280 of. And they might lose P Ryan who 948 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,840 had 50 catches last year. It all consolidated back to 949 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,840 mostly to Javonte. And I think Jaleel gets a bump 950 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:54,400 too. But. 951 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,720 Yeah, but estimate could be good for Javonte and Jaleel. 952 00:46:59,720 --> 00:47:01,640 That's the interesting part is the estimate. 953 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,560 Estimate is a early down. Guy catch passes. 954 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,440 Yeah, I'm taking a lot of Estimate, but I'm worried that 955 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,600 he won't actually get in on that, but I'm taking it in case 956 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,320 he does because I don't think he's a smash. 957 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:12,760 All right. We're about to pick. 958 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,640 We are going to need to think through I guess a little bit 959 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,040 with quarterback stuff depending on how we feel about like Daniel 960 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,760 Jones and McCarthy and I guess Bonex, like, you know, who's 961 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,160 here. Xavier Leggett at this price 962 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,000 feels pretty nice to me. If we want another wide 963 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,160 receiver, the running backs you're looking at are Jalen 964 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:33,400 Wright, Vidal Chuba, Antonio Gibson, Tyler Algier and Ray 965 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,880 Davis. Is there any tight end with a 966 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:35,960 pulse left? Doesn't look. 967 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,520 Like Chig Chig. And then you're into likely Ben 968 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,520 Sinnett. I think Juwan Johnson is the 969 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,240 best tight end by kind of a lot. They have a lot of available 970 00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:44,480 underneath targets in that offense. 971 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,120 It's all high 8. On you guys with me grabbing 972 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,400 Leggette here. First, Yeah, yeah, I. 973 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,400 AM. Jawan's not though. 974 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,200 I mean, that's the, that's the concern. 975 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:54,800 If we have another slow start guy. 976 00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:58,960 Yeah. I think if that's more than big. 977 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,240 The other, the one positive about Jawan too, is he opens up 978 00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:03,680 another quarterback. Option. 979 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,200 Yeah, that's true. I'm fine with Jawan. 980 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,560 I mean, Jawan's definitely got a ceiling all. 981 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,520 Right. We probably want to get to three 982 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,040 tight ends anyway, so and LaPorte, you know, gives us a 983 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,040 little cover. I know we can flex them but. 984 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,600 So two years ago he got to 16.7 targets per outrun, which the 985 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,360 first couple years of his career he was really low. 986 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,040 Last year he jumped all the way to 18.8% career high. 987 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,880 And Michael Thomas had about 80 targets in this offense last 988 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,640 year to lower a dot. Hayden Winks has also noticed 989 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,640 this and and I and tweeted out earlier that all of the Saints 990 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,000 wide receivers have really high A dots. 991 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,800 So including a lave. I think this could be great for 992 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,880 a lave but also she he is just a deep threat AT Perry has a high 993 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,960 A dot. This is part of why Kamara got a 994 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,320 ton of targets last year as well. 995 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,800 They don't have a lot in the underneath area of the field 996 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,520 actually and Johnson saw a career high targets Prout run 997 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,840 last year as a result of this. Thomas had 64 targets only 998 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,960 played ten games 6.4 targets a game last year. 999 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,640 I know like Michael Thomas's we've all memory hold him, but 1000 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,920 he had 6.4 targets per game in his ten games last year. 1001 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,840 He was like a pretty involved player in the range where Juwan 1002 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,920 Johnson operates this offense like especially if a lava 1003 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,160 doesn't come down has room for Jawan Johnson to set another 1004 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,560 career high in like targets per out and get like just a lot of 1005 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,480 like cheap underneath volume. Dude, before the foot injury, my 1006 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,800 bags were packed like he was going like 170 something on 1007 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,680 underdog and I was just like, I mean, Jawan Johnson. 1008 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,560 Oh yeah. I just was drafting the hell out 1009 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,000 of him. But the foot injury definitely 1010 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:39,000 makes me more nervous because the potential for reinjury, the, 1011 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,480 you know, we, we can't drop these guys. 1012 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,560 So that's just I've, I've definitely cooled off a lot. 1013 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,680 The chick stuff is like they're going to rotate him, I mean. 1014 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,000 Chick is potentially just a zero all year. 1015 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,800 Like not a zero, but good. Spot for tight ends. 1016 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,440 Regardless, I I can at least make a sealing case for Joel. 1017 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,720 So not would be the guy that I would have been most excited 1018 00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:03,040 about is a big a big cut. But like we're we are only 1019 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,520 getting like probably one chance at a real tight end too. 1020 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,920 So he was, he was scary. In that context. 1021 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,760 He's more of a guy you tackle on as a Titan. 1022 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,080 Three, I like that. Or I mean, we could do Michael 1023 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,240 Mayer. You're kind of playing powers to 1024 00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:18,320 get hurt, but he still has a good profile. 1025 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,880 Dulcich, somebody chat. Yeah. 1026 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,760 I mean, we might be looking at a next build here. 1027 00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:27,440 We we actually have a decent amount of quarterback options 1028 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,600 now 'cause we have Daniel Jones with neighbors, Bryce Young with 1029 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,720 Leggett, car with Juwan and then Bonex with Javonte. 1030 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,520 Yeah, opening up two stacks on that turn was pretty sick. 1031 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,160 I don't love playing JJ McCarthy, but all we could also 1032 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,880 play him with Addison. Yes, yeah. 1033 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,560 Yeah. JJ might sit a long time. 1034 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,480 That's my only. The chap pointed out to we got 1035 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,160 to pay attention. Not I think we're this is going 1036 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,600 to be a three quarterback build almost for sure, but Lawrence 1037 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:02,000 and Derek Carr same week 12 by so we can file that away. 1038 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,920 Our other running backs here, we're up to four Travis Etienne, 1039 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,400 Javonte Williams, Zach Charbonnet, Rico Dowdle wide 1040 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,160 receivers looking good here. Puka Malik neighbors Keenan 1041 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,600 Allen, Rashi Rice, Brian Thomas, Jordan Addison and Xavier Leget 1042 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,400 and then Laporta and Jawan Johnson. 1043 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,120 I would say other than like wanting maybe a slightly better 1044 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,480 tight in too. I I kind of like this team. 1045 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,080 The running. Backs the channel kitchen weeks 1046 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,040 one through 4. I don't know one through 4. 1047 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,800 The running backs we ended up hitting all have pretty I mean, 1048 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,520 assuming Jonty Williams has a role, they all have pretty solid 1049 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:34,840 role. I mean, we're assuming Enrico 1050 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,440 Dowdle certainly does when we take him there. 1051 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,800 But if those guys are involved and Charbonnet is going to be 1052 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,400 involved, we didn't put a lot of draft capital into running back. 1053 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,800 And it's almost like, I also feel like we could almost stop 1054 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,360 at 4. Like I don't think we we will 1055 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,240 necessarily, but these are all guys like that have stand alone 1056 00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:51,040 value and and I feel good about considering we also have Laporta 1057 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,240 and these receivers like it's pretty, pretty sick build. 1058 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,760 No, I I've really the running backs that we got for the 1059 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,920 capital we spent is. Yeah, and and Legette being 1060 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,760 there. So just to give some names, I 1061 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,360 mean, you know, Demario Douglas went ahead of him. 1062 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,360 I guess it was kind of a run on the rookie wide receivers there. 1063 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,440 I mean, 80 Mitchell in that round does not look bad either. 1064 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,800 But going from Legette like immediately to like the Mooney 1065 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,520 and the Datsuns or whatever, I like that a good bit. 1066 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,800 Me too, me too. So Derek Carr does go off the 1067 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,200 board to a lava drafter out of the two hole. 1068 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,240 We do see a little bit of a run coming here on quarterbacks. 1069 00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:34,760 I think one of these picks should be a quarterback. 1070 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,200 Do you guys have a preference on like by ADP? 1071 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,520 The two highest here are Daniel Jones and Bryce Young. 1072 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,240 I think Jones is the biggest upside guy, but I know you guys 1073 00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:45,800 are a little worried about the late season stuff. 1074 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,840 I've been playing it as if he's not a locked to get benched late 1075 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,680 season. Well, he's not a lot. 1076 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,520 If they make the playoffs, they would definitely ride him, but 1077 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,560 it's just the. Even if they're like reasonably 1078 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,960 close to the playoffs. They're reasonably close, yeah. 1079 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,520 'Cause like I think Dabel and and Shawn are then on the hot 1080 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:02,480 seat. We talked about this on an 1081 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,120 earlier show, but like they're tied to him. 1082 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,360 If they bench him, they get fired. 1083 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,800 Like they, I think they need to win out and try to get to 7 and 1084 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:13,000 10 if they're five and 10 like. You know, maybe, yeah. 1085 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,720 And if they're going to get fired, maybe they don't care 1086 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,800 who's. You know what else is having to 1087 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,080 pay Daniel Jones next year. It might be a funny little joke. 1088 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,840 Running backs getting gross. I was, I was going to be excited 1089 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,000 to talk about Ray Davis. There he goes. 1090 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,400 Braylon Allen is all still available to Antonio Gibson is 1091 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,280 available as well. Either either good. 1092 00:53:33,720 --> 00:53:36,400 Do you guys want to get Daniel Jones in a running back or do 1093 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:37,680 you want to double tap like Jones? 1094 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,560 And Bryce Young, I'd be Bryce over Jones just 'cause you know, 1095 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,320 Bryce is starting all year. Yeah, and Bryce opens up 1096 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,400 Jatavian late too if we want to try. 1097 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:51,080 That that's true, and honestly the guy'd be most upset to lose 1098 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,040 would be Nix. Yeah. 1099 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,680 Do you guys want a double tap quarterback here or do you want 1100 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,600 to do a like a Gibson? We don't have a mixed stack 1101 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,000 right now. Oh, we have Jon, Jon. 1102 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,240 Yeah. I'm I'm very on on taking Nix. 1103 00:54:05,240 --> 00:54:06,760 For sure. OK, let's do Nix because then 1104 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,560 again, like now we have Dulcich and Jatavian Sanders as late 1105 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,080 flyer options. I like that. 1106 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,240 OK. That's those are great backdoor 1107 00:54:15,240 --> 00:54:17,920 tight ends. Yeah, and now we have 3 1108 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,760 quarterbacks different by weeks, Lawrence, Bryce Young, Bonex, 1109 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,960 that's a that's a fine QB three room all. 1110 00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:26,240 Right. Pat, you, I mean, I, I, I know 1111 00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:28,280 you're concerned about the Daniel Jones thing, but we were 1112 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,360 talking yesterday, you seemed kind of down on Bryce. 1113 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,280 I, I mean, I guess I would be a little bit concerned about his 1114 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:38,120 actual like particular scoring if I was as concerned as you 1115 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,440 seem to be, yes. No, I mean, I'm not my thing 1116 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,560 with rice with with, sorry. My thing with Young is that when 1117 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:51,600 I'm comparing him to players like Levis, I don't have a lot 1118 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,000 more optimism for Young than I do for Levis, even though if you 1119 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,400 asked me this time last year, I'd be like Young, you know? 1120 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,360 But when you have a rookie, you're that bad. 1121 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,880 I think it kind of it it, it. And then we saw a big sample and 1122 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,520 I know that big sample was with bad coaching, but it's pretty 1123 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,640 concerning to me to where I think the outlook is pretty 1124 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:17,760 similar now to Levis's as far as a fantasy player goes, given the 1125 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,400 volume increase that Levis will get. 1126 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:24,360 And also I think a a modern offense, you know, kind of 1127 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,360 coaching upgrade. I think Vrabel had his 1128 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,120 strengths, but as far as like building out an offense the way 1129 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:33,680 we prefer, not one of them. So that's kind of where I'm at 1130 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:39,040 on young and like compared to a guy like May or even Nick's, the 1131 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,840 optimism that I have for like a big ceiling is not all that 1132 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,280 high. But. 1133 00:55:45,720 --> 00:55:49,520 I don't know, we're getting we're getting Canalis, we're 1134 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,400 getting a former number one overall pick, we're getting 1135 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,000 Deonte Johnson and Xavier Legette added to the offense. 1136 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,280 And I do think he is starting all year. 1137 00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:02,400 You know, even if he just like comes on at the end of the 1138 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,040 season and starts flashing like that could be a win at these 1139 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,480 prices. Levis already off the board. 1140 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,240 We don't have any, you know, patriots, they don't have to 1141 00:56:11,240 --> 00:56:14,880 take Drake may every time, you know, and it's part of a three 1142 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:19,600 quarterback builds where having him add useful weeks over the 1143 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,600 course of the season is is pretty helpful. 1144 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,680 You know, if I was like, if I had Josh Allen, then I'm like, 1145 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,640 let's just let's just stack up the Patriots and and take Drake 1146 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,200 may here. Let's let's have let's have some 1147 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,280 more fun. But Young's going to start all 1148 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:33,960 season, including the end of the season. 1149 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,800 So that's that's where I do, I do take some Young. 1150 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,800 Yeah, who do you who do you prefer, Young or Levis? 1151 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:52,840 I mean, I probably prefer Levis because I take more Hopkins than 1152 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:58,000 I take Deonte, but I'm at, I'm at 8% Levis and 6% Young on 1153 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:02,040 underdogs. So it's not like I they're both, 1154 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:03,440 I think they're both totally fine. 1155 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,760 Levis, I think probably better spike week upside kind of 1156 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:12,720 profile 'cause he, he chucks it deep and Levis I think will 1157 00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:15,040 start all year. I mean, he's potentially bad 1158 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,160 enough to where he could just get straight up benched. 1159 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:23,040 But I think you get a little bit more of like the scoring profile 1160 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,440 upside with Levis than you do with Young. 1161 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:34,200 Yeah. All right, we have. 1162 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:39,280 Let's see, we got 7 minutes for this gift card giveaway here. 1163 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:44,280 If we can get 3 1/2 rounds done, everyone's kind of digging at 1164 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,360 the bottom of their boards. Colby Parkinson, Jelani Woods 1165 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:55,760 coming off. So we know structurally, no, if 1166 00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:01,120 we're not probably definitely a running back flyer here, 1167 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:07,680 definitely a tight end, I guess kind of two other picks I think 1168 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:12,960 could go in in other directions. Yeah. 1169 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,400 Daniel Jones still on the board. I don't know if we'd entertain 1170 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,800 A4 quarterback build at these prices. 1171 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:27,320 I mean, given the prices, I don't, I'm not opposed. 1172 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,920 I'm shocked Pat Pat's just not an FFPC influencer. 1173 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,400 Drake may still on the board as well. 1174 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,560 Is there any time that I'm not an FTC influencer? 1175 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,240 We've tried to influence this ADP since 2018. 1176 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,800 I'm currently being bullied and text by Jacob Sanderson for 1177 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,080 being anti Richardson and I just I just want to be clear like I 1178 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,560 understand Richardson could be good. 1179 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,840 Like I'm, I'm, this is out of out of nowhere, but I, I, every 1180 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,400 stream I'm on from here until the beginning of the season, I, 1181 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,240 I don't want to be known as the Ante Richardson yet. 1182 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,320 OK, we're on the clock. Daniel Jones is here. 1183 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,120 Another name that's here too, like Daniel Jones, Tyrone Tracy, 1184 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,320 if we want to do that. The best wide receiver here in 1185 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,000 my opinion is Malachi Corley after this run of wide 1186 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,400 receivers. What about those tight ends? 1187 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,040 I think I'd be. The tight ends are all still 1188 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,800 here. I think I'd be Dulcich and maybe 1189 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,840 Tracy. I think we definitely need 1190 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,400 another running back. Do you like Tracy Ben? 1191 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,240 Yeah, yes, I really like Tracy. All right. 1192 00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,200 And then, yeah, let's definitely get a tight end. 1193 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,080 I mean, the question is, do you guys prefer Dulcich, Digitavia 1194 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,680 and Sanders? They're both similar ADP. 1195 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,360 I guess Dulcich goes much later, but who knows. 1196 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,240 I think I do, but. I think you got to take him and 1197 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:47,960 then you got to roll a clip because we haven't roll a clip 1198 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:49,600 all year. Yes, So, OK. 1199 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,440 Do we have a clip for one of these players and not the other? 1200 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:53,400 So maybe. I can't even. 1201 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,680 It's been so long since we played a clip because we don't 1202 00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,480 have any good players that are draftable anymore. 1203 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:37,080 The Oh my God, look at that hair. 1204 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:41,000 Oh my gosh, Oh my God, it's so beautiful. 1205 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,800 Don't work. I can't I. 1206 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,920 Can't. I can't figure out why it didn't 1207 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:50,960 work out for him. Is that there's? 1208 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,080 So much trauma to all of these clips. 1209 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,760 I mean, people are asking how do we still not have a clip for 1210 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,320 this year? I mean, I haven't had one of 1211 01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,520 those epiphany moments yet. I mean, who's who's the guy we 1212 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:01,720 take in every draft? Do we? 1213 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,240 Do we have one of those guys yet? 1214 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,480 Probably Javonte Williams at this rate. 1215 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,480 Jesus. I mean, we can't make I mean, 1216 01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,440 it's always a rookie, right? Like what I? 1217 01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,880 Feel like, I feel like Bucky Irving's the guy I want to make 1218 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,160 a clip for. I'm taking and I'm a Husky guy 1219 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,160 and I can. Get on board with Bucky, I 1220 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:17,960 select. Him. 1221 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:19,720 A lot of Bucky Irving. Yeah, we definitely do. 1222 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,160 Bucky. He's a good clip guy, especially 1223 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,440 because it sounds like he's just going to play behind Rashad all 1224 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:29,640 year. 4 minutes drafters, can you pull this off? 1225 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:34,000 It's me, a total bust. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. 1226 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,680 The two things that are going to happen is he's going to suddenly 1227 01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,880 get way more expensive, but he's also going to be bad. 1228 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,240 So I don't know if we need a bucking clip. 1229 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,200 They got a lot of Bucky. That's true because Bucky's 1230 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,560 really cheap too, so we could like run that AP up before, you 1231 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,920 know, it all ends in tears I. I I love the initial Jalen 1232 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:54,480 McMillan suggestion, but but Gretch shot that one down early 1233 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,640 on. Unreliable, he said. 1234 01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,120 I'm not trying to like shoot it down. 1235 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,000 I just, I don't take McMillan a ton. 1236 01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:05,280 I take him. I have, I have. 1237 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,160 I had pretty good bags pre drafted McMillan after the 1238 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,160 unreliable clip. He was one of my highest drafted 1239 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,880 pre draft players because I didn't know why he was so much 1240 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,200 cheaper than Polk. But he's still a lot cheaper 1241 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:15,600 than Polk with the ADP difference. 1242 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,520 I'm going to be out. Yeah, I should. 1243 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:20,320 I should have mentioned because we're trying to work out our 1244 01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:26,600 schedule, so I'm going to be out from Wednesday the 31st through 1245 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,960 August 14th to put together a Drake Drake May clip. 1246 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,000 How How bummed did you? Can't wait. 1247 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:39,600 To give you the edits on. That in Pat's face when he read 1248 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,560 that Drake may split first team reps the first day. 1249 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:50,160 Like what did you do? Dude, there's a free bird clip 1250 01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:51,840 of Drake may running around like what? 1251 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:56,440 I mean what a fun player. You know how could how are how 1252 01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,320 are we not in on Drake may like it is just that in the throat of 1253 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,720 Rhaegar. I mean that throw that was such 1254 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:06,040 a sick throw people. I I just don't think people know 1255 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:07,960 how fun he is once they know how fun he is. 1256 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:13,560 This ADP is going to be gone. Right. 1257 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,320 We're going to be wrapping up our draft here at the Turn. 1258 01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:22,560 I mean, structurally, guys, we have 3 quarterbacks, 5 running 1259 01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:28,400 backs, 123457 wide receivers and three tight ends here. 1260 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,520 There's a couple interesting wide receiver Flyers down here 1261 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:42,480 that I take on underdog. Did quarterbacks other than 1262 01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,720 McCarthy are gone? I don't think we really need to 1263 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,000 go McCarthy as AQV 4. No. 1264 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,440 Tight end has been pretty wiped, although Jatavian Sanders is 1265 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:58,640 still kicking around here. The running backs by ADP are 1266 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:03,600 looking at Damien Pierce, Deonte Foreman, Alexander Madison and P 1267 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,720 Rhine. The a wide receiver that's 1268 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,920 interesting to me here is is Devantez Walker. 1269 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,720 That's a good one. He's one of my. 1270 01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,480 Favorite. He got a tiny little mini buzz 1271 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:19,360 from one of the first days of camp. 1272 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,000 Did he? Yeah, I think he had. 1273 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:27,320 He was working in with the ones I believe but but behind Bateman 1274 01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:28,760 and stuff. But I thought that was right. 1275 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,600 Of course got sniped on Devantez Walker right as I said it, I 1276 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,080 thought didn't have to worry about that, but I did. 1277 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,000 I like Jatavian is one of the picks here. 1278 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,160 For sure. Rondelle Moore is the other kind 1279 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:42,880 of interesting wide receiver name to me. 1280 01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,400 I mean, as far as like a guy who's gonna be out there right 1281 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,240 away, that's pretty good. Or Deonte Foreman if you want, 1282 01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,840 like running back with some early season juice. 1283 01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,680 What about At least Raymond is actually like, yeah, poor light, 1284 01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,720 but he's actually efficient and is gonna run more routes 1285 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,480 probably. This is our last pick. 1286 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,360 Should we just get ahead of the generic Prince hype train to 1287 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,280 grab him? So we got 20 seconds. 1288 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,600 I'm hearing lots of suggestions. Somebody # the table for 1289 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,320 someone. Rondelle Moore. 1290 01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,760 Khalif Raymond Foreman. I don't got a table a pound. 1291 01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,680 What do we need structurally? I think a wide receiver, 1292 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,600 honestly. Khalif Khalif is fun, they love. 1293 01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,240 Rondelle or Khalif are both fine. 1294 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,840 All right, there's Khalif. We have, we have La Porta. 1295 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,480 We can, yeah, wrap that up there. 1296 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:31,760 I like that. Oh yeah I just saw a clip of 1297 01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,240 Estimate catching a pass from Nix. 1298 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:37,440 I mean the the Cecil Lammy tweet I saw he was saying he was 1299 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,920 praising both Javante and Estimate today at camp talking 1300 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:44,480 about pass catching I believe. He was praising Javante now. 1301 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,800 No, I think I'm. I've been braided as the AR he's 1302 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,480 going to be braided as. The oh, you're right, Cecil was 1303 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,320 the anti. It was Ben Albright was the pro 1304 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:59,560 Javante. Albright did a little victory 1305 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:03,360 lap yesterday, said the the Devante obituaries were 1306 01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:07,720 premature. Yes, maybe what we really get 1307 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:11,520 out of all of this is like a a big beef between all the Broncos 1308 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,360 bee reporters. Yes, that's what we all need. 1309 01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:16,800 Just like an Anchorman style fight. 1310 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,520 Wouldn't be the first time Benjamin Albright's dirty 1311 01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,720 laundry was aired out on Twitter, Although he did that 1312 01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:25,000 himself the first time. Sorry. 1313 01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,960 All right. I'm going to recap this team 1314 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,480 here for us and get your guys final thoughts. 1315 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,640 We got our three quarterbacks, Trevor Lawrence, Bryce Young and 1316 01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,400 Bone Nix. We got our running backs Travis 1317 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,920 ETN, Javonte Williams, Zach Charbonnay, Rico Dowdle and 1318 01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,880 Tyrone Tracy, wide receivers Pukunakua Malik, neighbors 1319 01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,400 Keenan Allen, Rashi Rice, Brian Thomas, Jordan Addison, Xavier 1320 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,080 Leggett and Khalif Raymond, and four tight ends Sam La Porta, 1321 01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:51,960 Juan Johnson, Greg the Leg, Dolchic and Jatavian Sanders. 1322 01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:56,560 How do we feel? I honestly feel way better than 1323 01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,800 I should about just getting Greg Dulcich and Jatavian Sanders on 1324 01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:01,720 this team. Like one of the beautiful things 1325 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:06,520 about drafting fantasy football teams is like that, like in the 1326 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,560 vast majority of universes, just like straight up doesn't matter. 1327 01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,360 And I'm just sitting here feeling great about it. 1328 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,640 Yeah, I I kind of like the balance of our rooms. 1329 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,560 You know, I think Lawrence is a nice quarterback in the QB 1330 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,320 three, got him stacked up, Etns a nice anchor and then we got 1331 01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,080 some good targets there. A little rookie upside with 1332 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,160 Tracy, wide receiver room I think is awesome. 1333 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,480 And then like Laporta with the tight end Flyers, I think works 1334 01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,640 out well. Yeah, and the ETN pick actually 1335 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,280 does work out really well with this build because we've allowed 1336 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,480 us to push the running back. We grabbed 3. 1337 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,440 It allows us to push running back five to Ben's point. 1338 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,600 Like if we didn't get a running back five, it wouldn't have been 1339 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,880 a disaster. And then it allows us to take a 1340 01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,040 big cut with Tracy Little little PPR juice at the end of the 1341 01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,880 season maybe. Yeah, yeah, I was just going to 1342 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:54,400 throw out that I I worry a little about the QBs. 1343 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:58,600 I really like Knicks as a QB 3, but I worry about his scoring 1344 01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,360 profile and then I worry about Young's. 1345 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,920 So little concerned about that. But Lawrence is probably my 1346 01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,240 favorite mid round upside QB this year. 1347 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,880 And on a team with ETN and and Brian Thomas, it's like a clear 1348 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,920 bet on Jacksonville's offense. Thomas is the one that if we're 1349 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,680 betting on him, then I think we're betting on Lawrence to to 1350 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:17,600 set a career high in in past TV's. 1351 01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,960 I mentioned recently he hasn't thrown more than 25 past TV's, 1352 01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:21,840 but he actually has like sneaky rushing ability. 1353 01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:27,040 If Thomas hits, Lawrence hits. If yeah, Lawrence hits ETN is 1354 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:28,800 brought along in a positive way, the. 1355 01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,439 Other thing with like Trevor Lawrence's passing touchdown 1356 01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:37,560 numbers just does he's the type of dude that could just blow up 1357 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,920 for a ton of touchdowns. Like he's he he plays a variant 1358 01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,000 version of of the quarterback position. 1359 01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:47,439 Like he goes for it, he's aggressive, he makes mistakes in 1360 01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,800 the red zone which is annoying, but like. 1361 01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,319 Clean those up in year 4. Yeah, clean those up. 1362 01:08:53,319 --> 01:08:56,479 And also, like, you know, he's trying to do stuff in the red 1363 01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,359 zone is one another way to think about that, you know, So what if 1364 01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:02,960 he what if the stuff works? People people see the mistakes 1365 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,040 and they think that he lacks ceiling. 1366 01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,000 I think as a player because he's never probably going to live up 1367 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,840 to what he was as a one-on-one. I see the mistakes in a play 1368 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,160 style and I'm like, look, some quarterbacks just need a little 1369 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,720 more time to get all the the reads and all the stuff into 1370 01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,479 their head. A lot of quarterbacks peak after 1371 01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,600 30 man. Like he's not complicated 1372 01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,600 position. It's a complicated position. 1373 01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,560 He's played under Urban Meyer in year one. 1374 01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,479 Like let's cut him a little bit of slack with like he's probably 1375 01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,920 got had to learn the the sport completely over when Doug 1376 01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,439 Peterson took over in year two of his career. 1377 01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:38,439 I mean, it's it would not be that shocking if Lawrence 1378 01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,920 finally took a significant leap in year four Like it just give 1379 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:43,479 me. His pedigree, it wouldn't be 1380 01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,760 shocking at all. Like it, it really wouldn't if 1381 01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,000 we were just like talking about like, oh, Lawrence is one of the 1382 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:49,439 best quarterbacks in the league now. 1383 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,240 Like not in the Allen Mahomes too. 1384 01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,800 That's not what I'm saying. But like in kind of that group 1385 01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,040 that always forms behind those guys of like these and these are 1386 01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:58,920 like the other really good quarterbacks. 1387 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,720 Lawrence is just like cemented this year in our minds is like, 1388 01:10:03,440 --> 01:10:06,120 you know, he's he's he's arrived as part of that group. 1389 01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,000 Yeah, it's really not. That wouldn't really surprise 1390 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,520 me. And I I like I agree, Ben, like 1391 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,880 it's probably just a teeny bit weak as a quarterback room, but 1392 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,160 getting all of them correlated, you know, being like, hey, can 1393 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,000 we get Carolina and Denver has really improved offenses. 1394 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,360 And then we have a ton of other kind of small correlated bets 1395 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,960 like the Tracy neighbors. One is fun, La Porta Raymond. 1396 01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:31,600 So kind of betting on some of these other kind of undervalued 1397 01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,280 spots. They're not La Porta, but with 1398 01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:37,480 the giants as well. So I I kind of like how this 1399 01:10:37,480 --> 01:10:39,520 team shook out. It definitely tells a a story. 1400 01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:41,760 It does. Yep. 1401 01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:49,120 Ben, to your, your Bryce Young point, I've, I've been thinking 1402 01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,040 about Deonte Johnson 'cause you were telling me you're drafting 1403 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:55,320 Deonte Johnson basically every time over over Hopkins. 1404 01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,000 And I still really like Hopkins, but I was like, man, I need to 1405 01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,800 get more Deonte. There was a a quote from Canales 1406 01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,080 that was like a really fun quote. 1407 01:11:04,440 --> 01:11:07,960 I think Scratch retweeted it. I did what he said I did. 1408 01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:09,840 AI did. AI did a douchey victory lap off 1409 01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,280 that quote. I realized afterward. 1410 01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,480 I wish I would have framed that a little different because I got 1411 01:11:13,480 --> 01:11:15,000 a lot of likes. He said. 1412 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:20,360 He said tendencies are OK to have as long as you know you 1413 01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,360 have them, because then you know that what the defense is sort of 1414 01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,520 assuming what you do and then you work off of that. 1415 01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,040 I was like, this guy's smart and he's and also he just told me 1416 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,200 he's going to have like a insanely high first free target 1417 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:33,360 rate to Deonte. That's. 1418 01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,560 Did you see the quote before that quote? 1419 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:37,720 Yeah, where, He said. Where is Deonte? 1420 01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:39,160 Our offense. Yeah, he was like, we're going 1421 01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:40,520 to build our offense around this guy. 1422 01:11:41,440 --> 01:11:44,320 Yeah, but then he also said, And I don't care if the defense 1423 01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,120 knows that. Right, Yes, I. 1424 01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,200 Was like OK, yeah, they lot of. First, it made me think of the 1425 01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:53,200 of the the the Randy ratio, Mike Tice and Nate. 1426 01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:57,800 Nate Tice's son does great work for Yahoo now as an analyst. 1427 01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,560 Mike Tice was the old coach for the Vikings and came out around 1428 01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,080 this time in the in the offseason said we're going to 1429 01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:03,680 have a Randy ratio this year. We're going to throw to Randy 1430 01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,400 Moss 40% of the time. Like that's the ratio. 40% of 1431 01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:07,600 our passes have to go to Randy Moss. 1432 01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,840 And it didn't really work great that year, but it was, it 1433 01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,480 reminded me of that in the sense it was like, I don't care if you 1434 01:12:13,480 --> 01:12:16,480 know, I like he's Randy Moss. We're going to try to throw 1435 01:12:16,480 --> 01:12:20,000 everything at him and then hopefully you put seven guys on 1436 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,120 him and I can throw to someone else. 1437 01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,920 Sometimes, because I know, you know, and then I'll use that 1438 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:27,280 against you sometimes, right? But Deonte Johnson is like the 1439 01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:31,040 leader in open score and elite reception perception profile and 1440 01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,560 always strong targets per out run every single year of his 1441 01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,640 career. And like, I mean, it's probably 1442 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,480 going to mean a lot of targets. Targets are good. 1443 01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:41,120 Targets are the lifeblood of fantasy. 1444 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:45,160 Scores, targets are good. I mean, yeah. 1445 01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,400 I'm not going to be efficient. He's never been hyper efficient, 1446 01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,000 but he's going to have a lot of targets, so that's good. 1447 01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,080 The reason I was bringing up is he talked about who he could 1448 01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,400 have a clip for and I was hoping maybe you could put together a 1449 01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,840 Deonte clip because I don't really have that much and I kind 1450 01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:02,480 of need him to bust now. That's why everyone's worried 1451 01:13:02,480 --> 01:13:04,560 about the Drake May clip. I guess it's just the. 1452 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:08,800 Implications here No. One wants the Before I forget, I 1453 01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,680 think we're gonna do another one of these next week. 1454 01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,680 So if you watch this or you missed out getting in this 1455 01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:18,600 draft, we'll probably hop in another sit and go next week at 1456 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,520 3:00 PM. And then we're really close to 1457 01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:25,520 finalizing our streaming schedule for August. 1458 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,800 We're getting our main event drafts lined up, reaching out, 1459 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,480 booking the guests and and contributors. 1460 01:13:31,480 --> 01:13:33,480 And I'm also going to circulate that form that I've been 1461 01:13:33,480 --> 01:13:35,680 promising in the ship chasing Discord, because we are going to 1462 01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:39,160 have a couple spots available to draft a team with us in Vegas to 1463 01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:43,880 do a slow FFPC main event draft with us and some underdog 1464 01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:47,040 opportunities likely as well. So if you guys are YouTube 1465 01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:48,680 members, that's one of the perks in the discord. 1466 01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:52,040 You guys get priority access to that Co manager program we've 1467 01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,960 done each year. And the form will have all of 1468 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:58,160 those details. But guys, I'm starting to get 1469 01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:01,200 the the redraft itch here, drafting these teams, seeing 1470 01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,520 these tight end premium picks. We're we're about to start 1471 01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,680 ripping here. We are and the, the slow main 1472 01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:08,880 we've been doing has been a ton of fun. 1473 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:12,560 And yeah, it's just it's, it hits different when you're in 1474 01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,040 these main event teams, you know, it's like you're going to 1475 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,480 be managing them. You kind of build the teams a 1476 01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:21,680 little bit differently. You you take shots on different 1477 01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,480 types of players. It's just it's very fun. 1478 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:29,520 Gretsch, anything else from you I I will echo what we said at 1479 01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,000 the top. If you if you want some fun 1480 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,920 scrolls, check out our Reddit AMA yesterday. 1481 01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,320 I think that's still archived and you can go back and do it. 1482 01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:38,760 And they had a a full basketball week. 1483 01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:40,280 I know Leonie and Hertzig did it one day. 1484 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:44,400 Josh and Hayden did it today. There's been a bunch of fun 1485 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:48,280 combos up there on Reddit. Yep, that was a really fun one. 1486 01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:53,600 I wrote a long piece this week called The Macro Trends You Need 1487 01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,680 to Understand to Dominate in Fantasy in 2024. 1488 01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,400 Talked a lot about a concept I've mentioned on the show a 1489 01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:01,920 couple times about how I still think about the passing game 1490 01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,560 through A dot and how play space, the player space the 1491 01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:05,920 field vertically. We talked through this a little 1492 01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:09,760 bit during the Juan Johnson pick in terms of, you know, what the 1493 01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,160 range of, of outcomes for different targets for different 1494 01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:16,080 players are. Got a pretty positive response 1495 01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,560 on that and, and have enjoyed the, the feedback there. 1496 01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:20,240 That's a piece I would reference. 1497 01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:23,720 And then I'm writing up my first offseason ceiling signals post 1498 01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:25,600 right now, which I end up writing one for each division. 1499 01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,720 The signal noise stuff that I learned doing the projections 1500 01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:32,680 breakdown every offense and I'm I was working on that this 1501 01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:34,880 morning. Those are all very long, very 1502 01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,080 involved and they'll be coming for for signal Subs. 1503 01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,440 Awesome. Pat, what about you? 1504 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,120 Leg up. Yeah, I'm been working on an 1505 01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,600 article, kind of a follow. I did an article a few weeks ago 1506 01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,200 on looking at the profiles of the early round running backs, 1507 01:15:50,440 --> 01:15:54,200 kind of asking the questions about like how, how different is 1508 01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,200 this from years past. And I'm doing that for the 1509 01:15:56,200 --> 01:16:00,160 running backs that are going in the spot where we're actually 1510 01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,440 enjoying taking running backs in, you know, around 7:00 and 1511 01:16:03,440 --> 01:16:06,000 1:00. So that'll be out. 1512 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:10,040 That'll be out pretty soon. Awesome, keep an eye out for 1513 01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:11,560 that. Like I said, if you guys are 1514 01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,520 YouTube members, you get access to our mini sods. 1515 01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,760 The first two are out. I will probably publish the 1516 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,800 third tomorrow. Been getting lots of good 1517 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,720 feedback on that as we talked through strategy and and player 1518 01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,560 selection takes. And then for me, I have a double 1519 01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,800 header tonight with my buddy Nick Urquilano from BDGE. 1520 01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:33,280 He's doing randomizer at 8:00 PM Eastern and then we're going to 1521 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:37,720 roll right into an after Dark at 9:00 PM Eastern with Nick 1522 01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:39,400 Urquilano so you can check that out. 1523 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,400 Appreciate you guys hanging out and thank you to all the ship 1524 01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:42,880 chasers who filled this tournament. 1525 01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:47,120 I know we didn't get to sauce everybody's team today, but 1526 01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:50,640 appreciate you guys joining and battling it out with us in these 1527 01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:54,800 FFPC best ball streets. I also see Underdog just 1528 01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,680 launched a few new contests while we were live. 1529 01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:00,600 I believe there's a $75 single entry Bulldog, which sounds like 1530 01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:04,240 a fun contest, so we can check those out as well. 1531 01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:07,080 But for Pat, for Ben, thank you to producer Nick. 1532 01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:10,600 We'll see you guys next, next time on Greg Dolce chasing.