All right, it's ship chasing Wednesday night.
You guys have been anticipating this draft and this cold open is
going to have to be cut short because we're on the clock right
now. We'll have to wait to play the
music here in a second. Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase
goes. We got Kat Karain on the run.
This is a big decision between cop Tyree Christian McCaffrey.
Who we thinking we have 40 seconds, fellas.
CMC1 Cup 2. That's my KDS.
Gretch, what's your vote? I I would be cup in a start 3
receiver league, but I don't. There's just a lot of running
back value throughout the draft. Right now.
I'm not throwing a fit about Cooper Cup.
Pat, what do you say? I'm.
I'm fine either way. To be honest.
I probably leaned slightly towards the cops, but I'd be
fine with see him soon. Sounds like I've been outvoted.
I leaned slightly. Cup to Davis.
It's great having you on the channel.
We are gonna select. Well, hey, God, that's the cold
open. One second.
Pat Fryer homos this. Is why This is why I'm hot Anita
hand. Job fix your side.
Jamar and also play Chase. You can't handle the heat.
It looks like we're finally fist boys.
You're right. Well Davis, you will say like I
sent over the link for the show, you know earlier this afternoon
and your only reply was I'm fine with cup.
So you because I knew that was I knew that's what you guys would
want to do. The thing that is most souring
me on it is that I did a main event last night and we got
Cooper Cup at pick eight, which is so.
Just, you know, like. Would you say in my rankings
Cooper Cup would be the third player in this format, but it
just it is one of the you? Just dropped it him at 8:00 last
night. It's not fun to draft him at 3
the next night, correct? Correct it.
It is not. It is not as fun.
And then again, the things that I like about Cup are more
structural than about. Obviously I love clicking him,
but whereas with Christian McCaffrey I'm like, I am like
actually jazzed about how many points he's going to score at a
position where it's hard to find points a lot of times.
One of the reasons I I like cup for this draft slot specifically
and with the third round reversal is because depending on
how wide receiver heavy the second round goes you could
legitimately be in a really gross range at the end of round
two and then find yourself in another wide receiver dead zone
at the end of round three because of the that is that is
the most that is the most convincing argument is that is
that it saves you from Keenan Allen Mike Williams DeAndre
Hopkins that is that is the thing that is most freeing about
starting wide receiver wide receiver is that you know the
the I mean this is basically this is just a summary of the
last month of stealing bananas but the the rounds tail end of
round three to round six is like the wide receiver dead zone
whereas the running backs there are all really attractive.
Can we get a a A Cat Kareen update?
So the chat was saying West Coast Pat, but you're still in
Brooklyn. I'm East Coast, man.
This is Brooklyn. Yeah.
Staying at a hotel in Brooklyn. Flying out tomorrow night.
Pretty late, like 9:00 Eastern. I'm sure the hotel in Brooklyn
is pretty affordable, so. Actually, kind of is.
It's not nearly we we booked it last minute because we were
like, ah, we'll just stay like our stuff's gonna get picked up
Friday and then we'll like stay on air matches for for you
nights. No big deal.
And then we did have a few nights and we're like, we're
idiots. Let's let's stop doing this
immediately. Yeah.
So we booked the hotel last. Day.
You gotta start going up to people on the street and like
asking them their body count and turning it into content.
I think I think you're you're set up really.
Davis Brooklyn is like a very nice and safe place.
Davis. David.
Let's let's not forget that when Davis and I went to New York
City to to see Laird and Meet Laird, that was Davis's first
time to NYC and he you were legitimately terrified to ride
the subway. Telling Davis, Yeah, about the
subway. Like Davis, you can write it.
Don't worry. He was like, you are fucking
insane if you think I'm doing that.
I've ridden the subway in Chicago before and I did like it
was fine, but I it was not an experience I really enjoyed.
And then Chicago is just or like New York City is just like
Chicago Times 3. So I was.
Not, yeah, but the subway, like, makes a lot.
Well, I was gonna say it makes more sense.
That's not true because it's complicated, but it's.
It gets you where you need to go.
It's a, it's a. Useful system I was I was born
in a town that probably less people live in than your old
apartment building. Honestly, it is.
It is, It is. It is a foreign experience to
me, like it is a different universe that we.
Are I had a similar experience the first time I went to New
York. Davis being a hey, I mean, look
dude, we we hung out. We we went to some fucking
Speakeasy. We walked through an alleyway.
We got into a bar. We had a blast.
We did we did the Brooklyn thing.
We saw the we saw the bench where the Broad City girls
filmed. You know, it is beautiful.
To be clear, none of that was in Brooklyn.
It's on Lower East Side of Manhattan.
But yeah, I was like, what were we at Brooklyn?
I don't know. So Bijon goes, I'm I'm going to
start the ship chasing tradition of lusting after another team
Team eleven starts CD Bijon. That is.
That is a pretty hot start. That's nice.
Jim Irsay starts A J. Brown and Jalen Waddell from the
9 hole here. We we did start with Cooper Cup
and we're going to watch a wide receiver run happen here.
It will be funny where what? Call your guys a shot.
Where does Jonathan Taylor go on this draft?
He is at the top of the applet right now.
He's already at the top and the 4th.
No, no, no, no, no, no. 777-0270 to.
He's gone in the end of the 4th and he's not us.
I'm still seeing him going like I'm on the 4th and he's asking
him. I think he goes in the 5th.
I'm saying I don't want him, but I'm saying I think he goes in
the 5th. Yeah, yeah.
I'm not taking them. I don't wanna take them like
140. It is Rakes now.
No, no. But he's in the 90s, an idea for
my friends who are grinding in the content mills.
Go back and look at drafts from the year.
Levy, on Bell, held out and tracked his ADD.
Where he went and take stuff that years there is.
So there's a free content idea last night.
Jonathan Taylor in the FFPC main event, where did he go?
He went to the, he went at six, nine as the RB 21.
So, so yeah, I mean, I I have basically no interest honestly
because it becomes a situation of, you know he's missing games.
There were already some structural concerns.
They're not efficiency concerns, not structural concerns about
how he would perform in this offense with the Russian
quarterback and how good or bad Indianapolis would be.
And now it just seems like, I don't know.
I think I'd rather have like Jalen Warren than Jonathan
Taylor. Really.
I moved. Him I moved him three spots
ahead of Warren in my running back rankings The the chat said
that Spike Week fellows were saying Brian Robinson range.
I moved him just behind Brian Robinson.
Yeah, that's that's literally that range, Yeah.
Yeah, I moved my head of Kamera today by one spot.
I had him behind originally when I was like, I guess I'd probably
take my head at Kamera. OK, so for our next pick here
right at ADP would be Naji Harris.
I think that fits pretty fits. Right.
Yes, it can't be right. Oh my God we have the 22nd pick.
Naji's ABP is 22 so. Wow.
Tony Pollard does come off the board here to team six.
We're two picks away. There's a couple interesting
wide receivers here and then all the quarterbacks are still on
the board. Yeah, I, I, I this is this next
pick we're about to make is like, I hate it.
This is like the worst pick in fantasy is the last three picks
in the second round. So isn't it really T and Devon
to go? Would you guys consider Ridley?
He's been getting pushed up into the yeah, I would, I would
rather take Mark Andrews, but it's fine.
I would be fine with Mark Andrews too.
Yeah, I'm generally, I'm just on the Andrews side, but I guess I
wouldn't mind balancing out a mega really fade with one high
stakes share. We just have, we have no out
obviously. We do do much of that.
It's it's. I do the same shit.
The guy I've. Been not drafting this guy in
hundreds of drafts this year. Oh, Ridley goes, you guys.
Want tea? Right.
We run into the podium for tea. I'm not.
I'm. I'm leisurely jocking.
Yeah, it's a it's a jog for me. It's not, honestly.
I'll run with you, Pete. Yeah.
Yeah, we can jog. Yeah, well, actually, because
probably who we're taking wouldn't come back.
But like, who would you guys even want to take over?
T I I think I would actually rather have the elite
quarterback just to look at it, because I don't really like T
Higgins that much. But all right, let me click the
button real quick as you make your point.
So. This is just to look at, it was
not convincing. No, I mean it.
Would look better on paper. The other the other thing is is
that my favorite elite back to draft is actually Lamar and we
are set up. We're in a pretty good.
We might get him, yeah. Yeah, we could get him.
We're set up in a pretty. Yeah.
I just to be honest, Tegans doesn't really make a move for
me. He really, I just don't.
Yeah, I agree with you. I just don't.
Davis five years ago he would have made it, yes.
Correct. Dude.
If he lost one dude in like a preseason game Davis would be
taking him at the 1-2 turn and just shrink him down.
Make him 5/8. Make him 5-8.
If you if you put T Higgins as stats in Deonte Hardy's body,
I'm I mean then we're running. You've changed, man.
I'm drafting T Auntie Hardy. You are assuming he's getting T
he and stats this year is from what I've said, name a bigger
heel. Turn then the guy who was like
pretty sure Steven Hill was Calvin Johnson to the guy
spending all summer drafting Deonte Hardy to to outwell and
Wandale Robinson. But then you.
Flipped on Greg Dorts, Greg Dorts thought he could.
Count on you, man. Yeah.
No, no, no, Michael Wilson. We're back to where we're back
to our talking. Or so anyway.
The point being about T Higgins is this is a dude who is 3 years
into his career and you know, he's just all right.
He really just like fantasy points per game, targets per
route run, all that stuff. He's just all right.
Yeah, he's a clear #2 on his team, which is not a clear #2.
And you'd make the art. Is this Pat McAfee?
Gretch, are we broadcasting with Pat McAfee right now?
We can just just ship off your clear #2 for and injured holding
out. Round the elevator I Yeah, go
ahead. No, I was just gonna say real
quick for people who are tuning in, we didn't really set the
table here. This is our second prime time
draft we're doing on NFFC. We did one last week with the
Buckeye Boomers. It's a 20 round draft.
Some of the different settings quirks that you guys maybe
aren't used to if you haven't drafted on NFFC.
We do have that third round reversal.
As you can see here, the 1-2 turn got to pick first in the
third round. It is 6 point passing Td's,
which is why Davis floated the quarterbacks as being especially
viable in this format. It is full point PPR, no tight
end premium, and it's a three wide receiver, one flex league,
2 running backs, one quarterback, one tight end.
Gretch, what were you going to say?
I. Was just going to say defensive
T. I mean he is the #2 on his team,
but they're like Tyler Boyd lost a lot more volume per route when
Chase really broke out last year than T did like on like a per
route basis. Irv Smith is not definitely
doesn't make it move. So you're talking about a #2 in
like a two man passing game. Then you're also talking about a
team that was second in the NFL and pass over expected last year
surpassed the Bills like actually took a huge jump and
Joe Burrow. It looks like a legit.
Efficiency raising quarterback for everyone like you have.
Like I agree. I agree with.
All these points I agree with. All these points I don't.
I don't mean to true like I'm not disparaging T, I'm not
saying I won't take T I'm not even saying I don't want to take
him because I don't want to take a #2 wide receiver, as you know,
in in the second round or whatever.
He's just saying it doesn't make it move like how many?
Like, I bet I I'd have to look this up, but I would bet Devante
Smith has more. Fucking.
Lamar goes, God damn it. All right, we're on the clock.
So we had Allen Andrews, Lamar Debo all come off the board
here. I really, really wanted Lamar.
Is what I would float here? What do you guys say?
I I like. I like Gibbs or ETN.
I don't care what I agree. It's a running back pick.
I'm pretty like Gibbs, Etn, Ramondre, you guys can sell me
on. I'm Ramondre.
We. We're much more likely.
We're much more likely to get Gibbs out of any of these guys
on the the next pick. True.
Like, much more likely. I did my legendary upside write
ups on these guys and I came away feeling better about
Ramadre. I'm slightly more concerned
about ETM, just because there were so Leonie Leonie texted me
today. Ramadre is the most classic trap
back if he was two years old or none of you fuckers would like
him at all. I'm not Leonie's just sending
these hilarious texts. Gretchen.
Remondre, Remondre. Yeah, I'm fine with it.
Alright, let's do Ramon, Dre. I've I've had him and Gibbs kind
of flip flopping in my ranks. I have a back-to-back and then
ETN not far behind. So they're all Leone.
Leone's take is Ramon. Dre's not going to catch passes.
That's the take. It's.
It's a combination of less likely to catch passes than last
year. There is a the market is baking
in. No risk of Ezekiel Elliott
taking go line touches the way he did from Paul.
The market is baking in risk if you had.
Been ahead. They've been ahead of market on
second round pick. I mean literally I just read you
the text message that he sent me which is that I and I I we we
didn't have a any conversation further than that.
But he he he literally just said he's a trap act that he was two
years older. You guys would be calling him
Nagi Harris who what do you mean by you guys?
What do you mean by you people? Leonie.
He literally means he literally means the four people on this
stream when he says. So I know.
I know. He literally means these, Leoni.
Uses the term trap back. He tends to use it the way that
Karain actually came up with that acronym for me.
But it was from the high value touch research I did.
And typically that means guys who don't catch a lot of passes
and get goal line work. And he says the goal line
stuff's that concern, but why are we concerned about his
receiving? He got 69 passes last year.
He had 83 or 88 targets like. This volume in the I don't even
you're the one who was doing like a forensics file level deep
dive on Ty Montgomery's contract.
So I feel like you're probably. That was.
Before, Stevenson had a 70 catch season.
Now, I haven't even mentioned Ty Montgomery this offseason.
I'm out like it's Stevenson. Are we fuck?
Gibbs goes. All right.
We you. Sometimes you win playing the
ADP game, sometimes you lose. This is a.
Great point from the Dread Pirate Guy too.
Vermontres is better than you go look at the advanced like
rushing metrics and and remondres right up there in like
evasion rate, force miss tackles per attempt.
All the stuff that actually might be predictive of Runner's
skill level. Remondre's been really good both
years of his career so far. Some running backs.
We like going off the board here.
The team one goes Jefferson and then snaps up Jacobs, Gibbs and
ETN. We're going to be on deck here.
We'll see what the Jamar Chase DK Metcalf, DJ WAR drafter does.
I'm so like there we go Breece I'm yeah.
I mean it's the only. Pick you want to make, I mean I
was thinking receiver or Burr mention you can float the
floating by Burrow. Taking Burrow in the 4th and
managed is bad. Yeah, it is 6 point per pass TD,
but I probably would be Ayuk of all the receivers, which is kind
of maybe a little bit of a reach.
Yeah, like that is that's a huge reach all.
Right. We can go brief if you guys
want. I What do you got here?
I think the tier we're gonna like for wide receiver coming
back at 5-6 I think is all the rookies good bit.
I mean everything about Breeze right now is just so positive.
Yeah, he might be healthier than Dallas Cook right now.
Yeah, yeah. And dude, the videos of him
receiving, he's just new Aaron Jones.
I mean as much as I'm like. Completely sold at Garrett
Wilson is Rogers, new Devonta Adams and I absolutely am sold.
I'm also absolutely sold that Breece Hall is is going to be
his new Aaron Jones. Like they're showing him running
the routes, catching the passes. And looking super.
Like super healthy. I I wrote the legendary upside.
Yeah, I wrote the the Legendary Upside scenario for Breece Hall
today. And honestly, I think I've been
way too low on them. That seems impossible.
Where do you have it ranked at? Like if you weren't worried,
like the same like Leone thing where I don't want my
subscribers have 99% Breeze Hall in every draft.
But like where would you rank him?
Where would you take him? How early would you take him?
I have him at 37 in the pure rank and that's that's probably
where I would say like I I've kind of want to push him around
the corner. Now that's like how I'm doing
it, but as soon as the fourth round starts, he's in play for
me. Yeah.
So I was, I was hoping for some spicier.
I thought it was going to be like that's.
Totally polar or spicier. Where would I be out if if the
market was pushing him up, where would I be out?
I'd probably be out. I'd probably be out around the
302, yeah. Still looking for spicier from
you, but yeah, and the. Case I made on if Andrew's is
available, I would take him pretty much 100% of the time
over freeze, but that's about it, yeah.
The case I made on Bananas was that if he didn't tear his ACL,
he'd be the RB one right now. And so the only thing holding
him down is he wouldn't be, but he would be the running back he
would. He would be.
I think he would go ahead of McCaffrey.
Mccaffrey's like 28. I actually think if he would
have played all of last season with his profile and the Aaron
Cuz, he would have. I should be clear.
I think he would have put up with David.
He would have be RB 1. If he put up a 1500 yard season
plus, which he would have, and then Rogers came over this
offseason, I agree with Gretch because last year the market
wanted to crown a running back 101 so bad.
There were a few questions on Jonathan Taylor stuff and people
are still taking 101 because they're like, I can't take a
receiver. And then we had the year of 0 RB
and the market was like, fuck it, we'll start drafting
receivers up here and we're still taking Christian McCaffrey
that high even though he's ceding more work to Eli
Mitchell, yada yada. The market loves crowning in RB1
overall. They love that.
They do. And he would have been this
youth, like untouchable profile, brand new, elite quarterback
Aaron Rodgers think would have pushed it over the top.
It would have solidified it. He would have smashed and then
he got a quarterback upgrade. And then everyone would be like,
oh. I'm I think he would be going
ahead of McCaffrey. I think people would be taking
Bijon ahead of McCaffrey too, if if he would have landed in like
a spot like Zeke did as a rookie.
But I think people are a little bit concerned.
If he if he would have, yeah, Bijon would have ended up almost
anywhere. Here's a here, Ben.
Here's a good theoretical What if the lions took him?
I mean, with or without David Montgomery, with David
Montgomery, because the the Montgomery was done beforehand,
right? Yeah, for agencies before, yeah.
But I mean, David Montgomery is just Tyler Algeer, honest to
God. With a little bit bigger.
It's not really. It's not even really a nag on on
David Monk. No, Jerry's pretty good.
I almost think that's a nag on Algeer.
To be, to be perfectly. Frank Well, you just think that
because he's he's versatile enough to to be their sixth line
backer if need be. Yeah.
Exactly. Montgomery's never gonna tackle
a dude. The thing I was really struck by
when writing up Breeze Hall today was that he had 5.1
targets per game of those first six games.
Tears his ACL in the seventh game only has four carries, but.
He caught like just over 60%, like 61% catch rate as a running
back, which is absurdly low. And that's a Zach Wilson stat.
He's going to get Aaron Rodgers like Austin Eckler caught 85% of
his targets last year. If Reese Hall catches like 81%
of his targets or something like that jumps up 20%, like, we
should basically expect that to happen.
And that's going to make a huge, huge difference for his
receptions per game. I think he's kind of a sneaky,
like I talked about the path to four plus receptions per game.
Rhys Hall basically basically did that last year, except he
didn't have the receptions. He just had the targets that are
normally associated with that level of receiving volume.
But it was from Zach Wilson. Now it's going to be from Aaron
Rodgers. Obviously Aaron Rodgers brings a
lot of touchdown upside to the offense, but just like something
as simple as he will throw a catchable ball to the running
back, he's a massive, massive upgrade for Brees Hall.
I don't think people realize how how heavily targeted he was as a
rookie. Back Can we just say your
Internet connection, your camera, like it's it's all
impeccable tonight. Just like so crisp.
Like the best you've ever had from this stupid hotel that
we've been dealing with. Your bum.
Fuck, you know, apartment Internet for this entire time.
This is this is a hot spot for my phone.
It's could have been doing that the whole time, but.
Whole time I could have been doing it.
You might be ready to start Best Ball Brunch, but otherwise, I
mean, it's true. Yeah, this is very similar to
the setting of Best Ball Brunch. I have to say since we picked
Breese Hall, we did see I U Go and Joe Burrow goes unstacked to
team Nine. These are the other pics off the
board. Amari, Aaron Jones, Mike
Williams, Drake Line and Darren Waller.
Deontay Johnson, DeAndre Hopkins, Christian Kirk Godwin,
Mixon, Mclaurin, Jahan Dotson. Those guys getting closer and
closer in a DP. Damien Pierce, Justin Herbert.
We are three picks away here. Definitely going to have some
wide receivers we like. There are some couple
interesting running back names as well, but it feels like we at
least want one wide receiver with these.
Next two picks at the very least, yeah, and probably wide
receiver 1st. And then let the room do
whatever, especially because team one is unlikely to do a
fourth. I mean, they could, but I would,
I would think unlikely. The question is going to be ooh,
now we get all the options. What do we want to do that
receiver? I'm still not logged in.
Can you guys tell me? Yeah, so the just Bucket Pitman,
The Eep Pickings Locket Pitman. Yeah, I would.
Be picking. It's a good.
Yeah, it's good. I was gonna say Locket would be
unpopular in this room. I'm gonna.
I would be Locket. I think too Davis Goget
pickings. Yeah Davis, who's your guy?
Yes, that's. We've been.
The thing is, is that I've actually been sold on the other
guy. So and I would like to I would
like the employee of selecting this guy in the room.
So pickets. Pickets.
Did they get the other guy coming?
What I want to do? Yeah.
OK, I'm good with that. All right, let's do pickets
here. So.
We love that you're sold on the other guy.
That's exciting. Davis well, I've I've been sold
on him the entire time. But but a real jumping the shark
moment was him going ahead of his teammate in underdog
basketball mania. Like I I love young guys as much
as everyone else but that the Shark we were on the Damien
Harris. You know we the Shark we were on
we we maybe we're all the way over the Shark.
But we were you know, holding our surfboard above the shark in
the air with the the ability to still go back if we needed to
and now the market has gone that direction.
Are we talking about Pickens and Deonte Johnson?
Is that what we're talking about?
I don't know who we're talking about anymore.
I'm so confused. We're talking about.
I don't even know who the metaphor is about, and the
metaphor that makes even sense put on the low.
We actually maybe should have thought about taking fields
there. It's six point per pass.
I did think about it. I was more compelled by Herbert
sliding until he went cuz I think it's 20 point per pass
yard, six point per pass TV. I, you know, it's a pretty big
boost to the guys that could be big volume passers.
Yeah. I also think like, because
there's probably even still one more running back value maybe in
round eight or nine that we want to take.
It's just like these teams are so much easier to build the way
you want if you're willing to push QB, correct, Yeah.
And I don't hate what you guys have been doing, like taking
three of them either. Especially so especially
obviously on NFFC, where it's not tight in premium and you
don't feel the need to draft Michael Mayer because Michael
Mayer's 14 routes in in week one actually won't make a move.
You know where it's like on the FFPC.
If Michael Mayer runs 14 routes in week one, any league where
he's not drafted, he's going, he's going for $113.00, a fab.
If you run 14 routes, 14 routes. Thirst, baby, The thirst.
All right, all right. Don't do it.
Team two, don't do.
It this is brutal. I I think they're going to do
it. I think they're going to do it.
I'm pretty. Sure.
I'm pretty sure they're going to take Kenneth Walker.
Our fall back would be who, Jerry.
Judy, no, I think our fall back would be a running.
Running back probably. I do.
I do think it would probably swing it to running back, cuz
you're looking at like the javante Kenneth Walker, JK
Dobbins range. He goes, let's go.
Let's go podium Jackson, Smith and Jagba, that was the that was
the guy. Although, although I do realize
in hindsight that Deontay Johnson and George Pickens it's
the same thing. Although, although I mean all
due respect to George Pickens, he's not as good of a fantasy
pick as Deonte Johnson, who I don't even like.
I don't enjoy watching Deonte Johnson play football.
His particular brand of receiving is very annoying to
me. But just the way that fantasy
points are accrued he he's 2015 Davis Maddock would have George
Pickens in his first round. Yes, correct.
And and if you were to make me bet if so if the bet was who is
more likely to provide excess value in the median?
I would. I mean I would make Deonte
Johnson -200 favorite over George Pickens.
But if you made me bet, who is more likely to go as the wider
Super 14 next year? I'm for sure betting George
Pickens like way more likely to be a second round pick.
Well. You know, I've taken a lot of
Deontay Johnson in Best Ball, but like.
Yes. What's the point of him and
manage like it? Yeah, he's gonna.
And I know that's like a dumb way to look at things, but no,
no, it's you're you're so it's so the it's a. 140 targets, 3
years in a row? That's a lot of targets.
Yeah. What's the point, dude?
Dude, there's look, you got that ass backwards.
There's no there's less of a point in Deontay Johnson and
Best Ball where the spike weeks are just the one week he happens
to randomly score a touchdown. But he gives you like 11 1/2
points every week, whereas and manage 11 1/2 points every week.
Is kind of nice. No, I don't think I have it
backwards. He's like, he's gonna, he's
gonna do his thing whenever he scores a touchdown, he's gonna
slot my lineup because he's gonna have like 9 targets that
week anyway. Sure, sure.
And like he's he's involved and he's gonna have enough targets
or he's gonna have enough weeks. But he's never going to be.
He's not going to break out. He's not going to be one of
these guys. Like as we build our teams with
like a bunch of breakup bets to try to hit these really high end
ceiling outcomes at wide receiver, like he doesn't really
fit that bill. See that?
I disagree with. I think it's yeah, I I you're
not. You're not selling.
Me if Kenny Pickett plays like
he has in the preseason for you know, any stretches of 2023,
they're going to have the most efficient passing game they've
had since Ben Roethlisberger was like.
Three years prior to him retiring because they were
really bad for a bunch of years and then Pickett was was
struggled last year. They haven't had a good
quarterback, an efficient passing game.
They've been good through the preseason.
If he can get his efficiency back and the quarterback I think
is going to definitely play into that the the target volume is
going to be there like this is like the potential to actually
be a pretty big hit. In my mind, I don't.
I think he has a right that he wouldn't get drafted in the
second round next year because people will be like.
He'll get like, the Jarvis Landry treatment.
People be like he's not actually fun.
Like, I don't wanna drive. My God, Deontay Johnson really
is just the heir to the Jarvis. Landry.
He's Jarvis. Or he can be like Wide receiver
5 and still not get that respect.
He can be the wide receiver 5 and not one person who drafted
him is like fuck yeah, so exactly.
Exactly. Yeah, that's fair.
If they were to pass enough, he could be like the wide receiver
5. Like, let's see I How many
Jarvis Landry seasons are hilarious like Jarvis Landry in
2017. You guys want it's unbelievable.
If you were not playing fantasy, then 161 targets, a league
leading, 112 receptions, 980 scrimmage yards.
I mean, it's just it it defies, it defies logic.
I mean, it was it was not a it was not fun to watch.
Just to catch people up on the settings again because I know
and I'm guilty of this too. You get best ball brain you get
different sight brain. This is a very different
settings. We have full point PPR, it start
three wide receivers and a flex and you know as much as we all
like Walker, if you take 3 running backs here in a room
like this you can get buried that wide receiver and be very,
very behind. Sharp draft room, I think too.
It's not like best ball where we had the 34 rounds where we could
make up for it with crazy volume.
So I think 3 running backs there would have been a big mistake.
We could have debated which wide receiver to take, but I don't
think it would have made sense to go running back at that.
Yes, very. Because I think we were at a
tier break and then those running backs came as soon as we
kind of got through the Evans pick.
Yeah, the chat. The chat is they're not happy
about the JSN over Kenneth Walker, which I would not do on
FFPC I don't think, but I for sure in these settings it would
be way more justifiable on FFPC. I like Ken Walker.
I'm a Ken Walker bull. I like and I'm a I'm also a
Charbonnay bull. If if Seattle this year is what
we thought Seattle was going to be last year, I will not be
chasing Kerrain. I will be asking Kerrain for a
loan. Probably if.
If listen, funds are a little tight.
Right now I also. I've been a lot on.
Can you just the rug? Pull the rug a.
Little tight. Gino If. $2 million, man.
By the day, man. You gotta spend money to make
money, Gretch. OK, Zay flowers going way ahead
of ADP is not not what I wanted to see.
No, I don't love that. Did you guys see the clip of Zay
Flowers at Yes Do We talking about his signing bonus And
Odell falls over when he hears it?
No, it's really funny. This is a great format for 0 RB.
I'm realizing when I'm looking at teammate and team nine both
started with four receivers in the first five and a no, they
got James Cook and JK Dobbins. And then they get James Cook and
Dobbins, as there are be ones in the sixth round with those top 4
receivers. That's a really nice way to go
about it. No lusting after other teams,
Gretch. Yeah, sorry eyes eyes on the
prize here. So through six rounds we go
Cooper Cup, T Higgins, then grab her Andre Stephenson and Breese
Hall, then go back to George Pickens and JSN.
Because Davis, you know before told us he he really still
wanted to prioritize some week 17 correlations here with
Pickens and in JSNS. Or like our this is this is just
a three-week spread, no weekly accumulator, correct?
Correct. Still, though, imagine.
Imagine if Seattle and Pittsburgh are just trading
haymakers in Week 17 and we're chasing.
We're chasing and climbing the leaderboard.
Yeah. I mean, it's still the last
week. It can't hurt.
It literally cannot hurt. Yeah.
I love the week 17 correlation on on these three-week sprints.
Like we can talk, we can tell ourselves a story.
When we're in like 48th place, we're gonna be like, oh.
We're winning this. All we need is.
This game to shoot out week 17 pill that I'm still doing it
like like unironically on drafters where I'm like I just
took JSN. I've gotta make sure I get
pickings on the way back. And it's like, I mean literally
no point. Like the concept.
There's no point. There's actually no point.
Yeah, although this isn't bad because you've given yourself
that sweat. You know you're giving yourself
that week 17th. Sweat.
I'm still stunned, Davis, that you took Luke Musgrave over
Ferguson because you wanted your number to go up on Musgrave
instead of double stacking your DAC.
Dude, we got we got eight days. We got eight days left into the
season. I'm.
I'm well above 1000 drafts overall.
Like I just we are. We are Simply.
That doesn't answer. But I'm not even that's a. 1000.
I'm actually jealous of you. I think you've literally done
four times as many draft. I think.
I think I'm gonna end up around 300 total drafts.
And I'll do like maybe 900, Peter.
We are not. We are not.
The same we are not the same I I.
Know we're not the. Same you're I.
Think it's very balance, healthy lifestyle.
He does this comment, this comment earlier from Nick, he
said. Davis is one of those self aware
people I've ever seen. Every stream we hear, it's in
2014. You would have thought X and he
is the first to say yes. I'm doing the opposite now and
it won't work. I am who I am and there's no
changing it. I do love Famous.
Probably one of my favorite like most endearing things on Twitter
is that even though Underdog Cardio Club ended a long time
ago, you still post your underdog cardio clubs like every
day. It seems to no, no no it's not.
It's if you're in the club it's not over if you if you're if
you're in the actual club. I so I've gotten Rake back on
115 Underdog. So that's called Mania Force.
Oh, nice. So you're still getting right
back because you're posting those.
Yeah, I still get like 30-7 dollars every three weeks.
So it's like a pretty, it's like a pretty good deal that that
we've got worked out there. It's totally off it, right.
Speaking of Rottweiler, Sam and Pat are going to do a Rottweiler
draft immediately following this stream if you guys are
interested in a double header. We're about to be on the clock
at the end of the seventh round here.
There's wide receivers I like. There's a running back I like.
There's a tight end I like. Sadly, sadly, there is a tight
end I like and I'm. I'm honestly hoping that Nelson
Sosa just takes him because I I do not have this guy on a high
stakes team yet. All right, let's just do it.
Let's play the heads. Let's.
Do it. You're probably not going to get
any pushback from us. Yeah, let's not.
Let's. Play the heads.
I'm very in seven 10710. Let's go.
Yeah. Oh, wow.
You know, we ruined. This team, guys, this is a hard
we just ruined. It's a real shame we had to do
that. I wanted him.
I was the one who I was, the one who brought it up.
But every time, I mean, he's my most drafted tight end on
underdog pad. Davis got mad at me today when
we were doing our swole cast draft because I took Kyle Pitts
at pick 80 and Davis said he was supposed to be the one that's
allowed to draft him because he likes him more than me.
I have. I have squatters rights.
I have the squatter's rights. Outfits.
Yeah, it's like this is some bullshit.
Wow, that is. Some bullshit?
Yeah. I'd like to cash in some of my
Kyle Pitts love from last year on the squatter rights.
Pitts is such a brutal pick. I mean, yeah, you're right.
You're not wrong. No, you're right.
You don't mean it the same way that I do, but you're not wrong.
Last year it was a brutal pick. I will give you that.
All right.
So we do see double more here on the turn.
There is only one guy I wanna click here and I just.
If he goes, I'll be destitute. I'll feel.
Really sad. Pretty sure I know who it is.
I don't think it's the person I also really want.
But I'm yeah, I'm actually I I don't is it does his name rhyme
with Shrayland smirks. No.
He's the number 10 running zero #10I mean I love.
So that's why I was gonna say when there was the tight end and
the running back. Yeah.
I don't want. I don't want David to feel
destitute. I like swimming.
I guess I'm in. But we're gonna get locked out
of any more receivers. We only have four.
No, we're not. We're gonna talk over.
We're gonna take, we're gonna take.
Rashi Rice. Right.
We're gonna still. Feel pretty locked out.
Michael Wilson, We're gonna take one Dale Excuse.
Wide Receiver 6 to start the year.
Thank God we'll get him. Yeah, I will say this yeah,
let's do slip we are. It'll push us into a slightly
different build. We're almost always taking the
Burks type player here. Let's grab Swift, because
normally too we've been doing like the three kind of dead
Zoney running backs in these builds and kind of mix and
matching the ETN Dobbins types here.
So the Stevenson Hall Swift is another kind of fun trio to
play, yeah? It is.
I don't think we've taken Swift yet.
Yeah, there's a there's a shot that we get.
That's part of why it's kind of nice to take Swift there is it
sends the three guys that probably not have any chance to
come back. But instead of taking one,
there's some potential that one of those three, I think, comes
back. As far as how, how, how times
have changed when you guys were openly mocking me and Kyle and
Liam for taking DeAndre Swift and now here we are, and I hated
him at the time I'm Hawking you for.
Things I was walking myself. Bucking us for taking gobbins
over Swift, I think. I was walking myself.
You. Yes, I learned a lot.
I've learned a lot in the last month.
You know. That's still the the key.
The key is to remain Bayesian. You know, it's just like you
always you just always need to be adjusting your priors.
And if you're not adjusting your priors, you just can't win.
That's true. So David David wants to do this
to be too. JSN and Swiffers, Ken Walker and
QJ. Like, literally by a pretty
clear country. Miles.
Yeah. Yeah.
Kind of like lay money as well. It's not close to me.
No, that that's a that's a slam you you'd have to be a real
Quinton Johnston truther to go that direction.
I mean you know Shawn makes this point a lot that like you
should. You shouldn't completely
disregard your prospect profile the way I have with JSN where
like I I just have completely capitulated.
I think he's the greatest wide receiver ever now, but.
There there are a lot of people who were bearish on Quinn
Johnson as a prospect. Like, there were, there were
people who were like, oh, he's a body catcher, you know, lack of
like there was a lot of people who did not like him and.
Barely worried about him, he looked very boom bust to me.
I thought there was a chance. He looked.
The same way like it's not that you can't boom, but.
And we already talked about how T doesn't make it move so.
Well, T yeah, that's. True.
I will say ever since the T pick we've been, and I guess
Stevenson because Leonie tried to kill our boner on that one.
All these picks have made it moved Hall Pickens JSN Pits.
Oh I I I like, I like Ramondre. I mean Ramondre.
I do think his silent killer upside is like fairly legit.
Not necessarily because he's bad, but because the Patriots
stinking out loud is. I mean, it's verily reflected by
ADP that they have one player who goes in the top 115 picks.
So like ADP is capturing that to some degree, like they might
just be a team that doesn't score any points.
I think Leonie's right in to an extent, where like if he was a I
came away thinking if he was like a 2-3 turn pick I'd be out.
But yeah, the only way. It goes, I'm pretty in and I
don't know, it's just kind of like a price thing for me.
But I don't know, also a little surprised because I feel like
they've been ahead of market on reminder the whole time.
So I'm like, harder. It's one of the things that's
made me feel better about him is that ETR is into him.
Part of the thing about their whole offense being so cheap,
though, is also just like the way their offense works, the way
they haven't consolidated targets, the way Mike Jones is
not mobile at all. Is Zeke their second highest
drafted player now? I mean, is it like cuz that's?
No, no. Juju.
I think he is Juju. But so Zeke is up there, and my
point is Juju is it is. He's Juju's not in my applet.
I actually just don't like when I'm drafting.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I actually. Like some people have an ad
blocker. I actually have a.
That's right. Yeah, underdog has plugins now
you can just get the juju removal.
How incredible would that be if there was just you could just
self exclude certain players from your pool?
Well, you can't. You could.
Do your own cut. So like when I do, I've been
auto drafting some on drafters just because.
There is a limit to how many drafts a man can do in one day
and I just when I set my rankings to do them, I remove
Naji Harris, Alexander Madison and Joe Mixon entirely.
They're just not they're just not ranked for me.
So they could fall to the 150th and I my auto rankings would not
take how how are you liking your auto drafted teams?
Like honestly, I mean I love the players and one thing just hate
the construction. No, no.
So so. One thing you would you would
after you think about it, it makes sense.
But for example, on a team where you take Jalen Waddell, you are
actually more likely to get to a because you've removed the to a
drafter from your opponent. So like you're getting some
like. I would say I do 10.
Probably three of them are like an unstacked uncorrelated mess,
but probably five of them have like.
Homes and Richie James or Justin Fields and Cole Comet, because
it's it's actually a little bit of natural selection inside of
the draft where when you get the quarterback or you get the
narrow target tree pass catcher, the rest of the room doesn't
really want to take that guy from you.
Davis, is this comment in the chat you?
It's. Putting a comment.
Like it's. Literally.
So funny. It's.
Literally, it made me laugh really hard, but I'm trying to
figure it out. So you're saying what a
commenter would say, right? Yeah, no, no big Lenny in the
chat, said Davis. Reminds me of Swift, very
talented but he's for of chasing depth chart that actually was
said. Very funny.
That is poignant commentary. I thought you were doing a
parody of a comment. I didn't know that was a real
comment. OK, limited availability.
I don't even know who wants to be petty, who wants to be Boston
Scott, and who wants to be gained.
Well, when we start to frame it like this, it doesn't look very
fun for any of us. I mean, you're doing too well.
Oh. Who's no one wants to be Rashad
Penny, I'll tell you that much. I do.
I'm excited about Penny. I'll just be Boston Scott.
I'll have my two good shows a year and.
No, I I should be Boston Scott, you know, crushing in New York.
There you go. Yeah, except you normally aren't
crushing it until you switch to your mobile hotspot.
Now you're you're crushing. It now, aren't I?
It's the one time of year when I crush it, man.
We we could have used Rashad Bateman on this team.
That's who I was. Really hoping would come back.
Yeah, yeah, I mean we, I mean once we made the vibes based
pick of DeAndre, So if we kind of knew.
What we were getting into here, yeah, yeah.
So if does kind of make sense though with with Hall, you know
we're not going to be. There, will there, Yeah.
I mean, yeah, does. NFC do the week.
One look at the way FFPC does where you can you can switch
them in and out. Say that again.
Like like the Thursday night game.
That's a good question. The the drop, I think.
Didn't we do that on our 5K? A decent bit.
Weren't we playing the Thursday night game that year we won with
Leonie I. Thought we were, I thought we
were. Churning some guys.
I I think you can, but I don't want to say it.
But that in a weird way it actually does impact the
strategy here a little bit. Because we could take two Chiefs
wide receivers later and see their scores if we don't want,
if we don't want to start like if maybe we don't want to start
JSN Week 1 or whatever. I I don't know or like figure
out at Flex. But also I mean I'm going to say
Clyde Edwards flair but no one, no one's going to listen to me
in this room. No one, no one in this room,
wants to draft Clyde. Edwards seems a little early to
me. How do we run the clock?
Down to two seconds to make that pick.
I knew that was a lot, cuz he had Herbert's.
Yeah, but he ran the clock 2 seconds.
I'm like, OK, he's talking himself out of it, obviously.
That's just gamesmanship. Yeah, Free look for the first
game. Yeah.
Do we wanna do the same thing that you guys did with the the
Buckeye Boomers team here? What was that, Friarmuth?
Around. Never mind.
We have pits, we have pits, We have pits.
I honestly think this could be like a Jacoby Meyers type team.
Yeah, yeah. Jacoby Meyers.
Zay Jones really makes sense. Odell Beckham as well.
I know it's gross, but. I'd honestly do Jacoby or Odell.
Isn't. Zay.
Running how the I see. Her sets and Kirk was coming
off. At least like we could do
Jacoby. I like Jacoby Gmeyer.
I'm fine with. I fucking hate this.
This is this is Terry Davis. This is what?
You could go running back. Yeah, because this is the deal.
I think we take a run back. I think we take, I think we
take, I think we take a J Dillon or or speak up.
I'll just try 9 seconds. I'm gonna click Jacoby.
Meyers and let someone pass the table hard for something.
I'll take Penny, take Penny. It's kind of interesting, I
know. But then we just take two cracks
of the Eagles guy. Yeah, it's.
Yeah. Myers.
Where did Jonathan Taylor go? Eighth round, 8th?
Give me that. Two of you 2 penny penny penny
Burks versus Swift Myers, right? I think you also need to
disastote again. Part of the grossness with Myers
is the half point PPR on underdog.
It's also the best ball brain. That's true.
Where 12 quarterbacks have gone by now and now and and only sex
have gone, Jacoby Myers is the less sexy version of Deonte
Johnson, and this team needed him.
Yeah, Josh, Just it just doesn't.
For being on the wrong side of the board, Jacoby Myers is a
good pick, but I would call him the less I mean.
Deonte Johnson's levels of of target earning are a little
different than what Jacoby Myers gets to.
Jacoby Myers does have like quite a long track record of
earning burning targets in a very young, sexy way.
He's also rated very well in open score at times, which is
what Deonte Johnson. It's kind of his calling card as
well, in addition to the target for our run.
It's like he does. Yeah, I mean, like we don't need
to gas ourselves up like we made a pick.
No, I'm not guessing. That about like.
It. Is, and McDaniels apparently
really wanted to use like the theory was Renfro would be great
in his system as a slot guy. Really wanted to use him last
year, but Renfro had all the injury issues and then he goes
and pays Myers. Like there's some dots you can
connect that. Like Myers is going to be a
pretty heavily used slot guy this year too in that system.
I just think I have no problem making the Swift pick, but you
have to be comfortable with these picks to make that click.
And so I just assumed we were comfortable with these, but it
sounds like we weren't. In which case I would Why is it
actually like we fucking cannot I?
I am that's. Why I said that?
Turn is hard to leave without a receiver.
Pitt Swift, yeah. Yeah.
Hey, once you make your bed, you gotta lie.
In your but QJ gobs doing it. I'm not trying to make it feel
testing. We overruled him on CMC, I feel
like. I just feel like we had to give
David Swift. I liked Swift, but we just got
to be okay with this now, yeah? No, we're fine here.
Wow. That's who I was going to float
and stuff, yeah. I was going this early, but it's
when is when is. I'm going to put a name in the
chat real quick so we could do the Odell, the Z, the let me see
who's in the chat here. That's that's too early.
I think for now, okay, that's not one we can push.
Does Penny make any sense to you guys at all just to like?
Have I? I like the Eagles guy, so I like
the theory of don't draft Swift and gain well together and
manage, but Swift and Penny or gain well and Penny totally
makes sense cuz they're not really competing for the same
touches. I mean, the other guy would
float is Tua led the NFL on TV, right?
Last year, Six point for TV league.
But I mean, I we don't have to do that.
I don't really want to do that. I prefer to take Gino.
Yeah. There's other, there's other.
There's definitely other options.
So let's do Penny. Yes, yeah.
Yeah. I think.
It's kind of fun. I think it's fun.
Yeah. We we have a ton of two, two
across our portfolio so far mainly all stacked with the with
Waddle and Hill shares and didn't we take two unstacked in
one league too. Or he just kept falling.
I think we did, yeah. Why are people, why are people
lusting over Team Six when they have fucking Cam makers?
Like, come on chat, you're you're all better than this.
Well, they they also wanted us to take Quinton Johnson, where
we took Swift and then he proceeded to fall almost an
entire around someone. Someone gave A-Team 6 God damn.
Like, literally grow up. Someone else said it's gorgeous.
This is, that's the classic The starting lineup looks great, but
you like. I mean, it isn't like it does
look good, but like. He's a fine team, but I'm not.
Anytime you take early running backs and you take an early QB
in an early tight end like your your, your team looks such a bad
rest of it. I mean, it's a classic, like the
starting lineup looks good. And I mean, it does just look
like good. It looks fucking great.
It is gorgeous. All they're all they're busting
after is that Quinton Johnston went after ADP.
That's it. That's the only thing they just
like that Quinton Johnson went after ADP, they auto timed out
with the Davis Maddox star method and they had clicked QJ
in the Q2 rounds earlier. Yeah, the fact that that team
took two receivers through, what, 7 rounds and then managed
to get Burks and then Quinton Johnston all the way back in the
9th. It's kind of bullshit, I mean.
Yeah, what's the functional? Up.
What's the functional difference between Quinn Johnson and
Jackson Smith and Jake? But their team's way better than
ours. We should.
We should quit. Wow.
David just appeared his priors to giving up.
The functional difference is that.
JSN is a massively stronger prospect in terms of like bust
rate seems way lower on JSN with what he did.
Davis was trolling. Davis knows that I am.
I am trolling. I actually, to be honest, I
watch a lot of college football particularly Big 12 college
football and never once like just watching games Saturday on
my couch was I like, dude, that Quinn Johnson guy is gonna be.
The man, which is like literally level one, like bad football
analysis, like watching games on your couch.
But I do remember 3 specific Ohio State games where I was
like, is fuck is Jackson's with the jig butt?
Like, is he like an alien? Does he have the ability to
teleport? Like, how is he always this
open? It's insane.
Yeah, dude. I mean, I still am like.
How How is he back? How did he have surgery on his
wrist and is out here catching balls at practice?
Like they probably gave him some steroids for like 2 1/2 years.
Yeah, dude, it was a body catch I got.
Is that where those were those actual comments?
I got three comments when I posted the video.
I got three comments when I posted the video about him being
dude, body catch. You don't want that.
You don't know ball dude dude body catch that you you clearly
don't know. Ball.
I need. I need to see.
This and high pointing this like 6 hours after rolling off the
surgery table I searched my I searched my mentions.
I was listening to your guys the show and I searched my mentions
for, you know, Ball. And the only person who's told
me that I know Ball is Hayden, winks.
Is the chat still lusting over Team Six with this Lazard?
Peg, You guys want that one back, or are you gonna continue
in change? No, now they're now they're
telling me. Now they're telling me I'm
bullshit for not enjoying watching Deontay Johnson play,
but liking. Jason saying saying Jason and
Deon. Just it's way more exciting
after The Catch, that's right. Because of his after catch
ability. Like literally like.
All right. I think we're in a good draft
room. I think these are good.
These are good drafters. Rushy Rice in jail.
And Hyatt going in the tenth round is a signal that I think,
yeah, All right. Davis I I told Davis that Hyatt
would make it back and he did not.
No, no, it's it's fine because we're just gonna take the Giants
target leader Wandell Robinson in the last round.
I thought Rice might make it back.
Or also, I think he might have been an interesting pick over
Penny. Between Mims and Rice, yeah, I
think we could have went Mims Rice at that turn instead of
Myers Penny. But I thought we had a shot at
these guys at 11. 10 you. Know they don't even make the
11th round anymore, I guess. I don't like to be this guy, but
when you take Jackson Smith and Jug buzz, you're. 4th Wide
Receiver Jacoby Myers is just simply a better wide Receiver 5
than Marvin Mems. No one wanted for you when I was
the one trying to get everyone. I'm agreeing with you.
I'm saying that you were the
adult in the room. No, I mean, I kind of wanted Odo
Beckham, so I thanks Dad for someone fun.
These dudes just drafting off the 0RB list?
Tajay Spears in the 11th round, dude.
What are we doing? Yeah tis the season where the
our precious zero RV candidates are now like 9th and 10th round
picks. Like that's that's just where
we're at now what's the most absurd 0 running back pick.
Like if you if you if if you had to pick one example of it.
I I personally remember my moment of being like we've all
jumped the shark here but what is your guys's most.
Well, it was the IT was the Justice Hill And who was the
Chief's back. Darwin Thompson.
Darwin Thompson that year. Darwin Thompson.
Going. 7th and eighth round I did a main event where we picked
on the turn, the six seventh turn and someone took Justice
Hill 611 in front of us and it ruined my day.
I was like, I was like. I was like Inconsolable and
Justice Hill. Was the OG ship chasing mush?
That was like that was the OG mush for sure, and we didn't
even get to draft him and made events because he was even going
2 routes higher than where we were willing to take him.
The uh. He looked great this preseason,
by the way he. Might be a thing.
I think he's. Coming for Gus Edwards.
I'm telling you I was dropping Gus Edwards cuz of Justice Hill.
I'm. Sorry, he's ahead.
Fuck Mingle. Those two peto's gonna let you.
I wanted you to to make your case again.
Yeah, I've been a great ad to this team.
All right, Adam. Feeling it is boys.
You guys. You guys.
Told me. I've been so out on Mingo, I I
made him just too suggestible because I've been finally
listening. I've been listening to a lot,
yeah. Davis.
He's updating his. Priority.
Now flip-flopped on Justin Ross, who's taking Calvin because of
what highlight is suggestible. But Mingo, you guys, I was
listening to you guys the other day and I was like, you know
what, That is actually kind of a convincing case on Mingo.
And I was like, on the clock and two slow drafts, and I just took
him. Mingo's gonna actually smash all
offseason. I really.
Think I want to get a. Collage or whatever you call it,
a mash up of Davis' self aware moments that that is the
highlight of because from just from tonight's stream they've
been. They've been great.
He's a good, he's a good pick. Mingo.
Yeah. Round eleven, round 11 and Joku
versus round seven. Cow pets, pick your pick, your
fighter. I think round 11 and Joku might
be the winner there. Did you?
You just told us you're the world's biggest Kyle Pitts bowl
and now you're saying that? Did Joku's just the better
version, cost adjusted? I just like this is like the
late round quarterback thing where you take Lamar Jackson in
the third round and then you look at the team that got DAC in
the 13th round and you're like, why didn't I just do that?
Simply, you're the Kyle third bowl you need to sell us.
Why his ceiling is so much higher than did Joku?
Do we want to just take two now? Jaden Reed.
One pet before us too. Is.
Kind of a smash, isn't he? Yeah.
I think Tua is fine. I also think his teammate given
that we have 4 running backs, I think we'd feel comfortable
starting and we could hold on to this guy for a while and we
don't need a churn that much. I do think a chain is kind of
think he'll come back at least on this turn.
Yeah I have. I don't our.
I mean our stacking option is Gino so.
Drafted in this So two. Is that's true?
Do you guys prefer the stack with Gino or unstacked Tua?
This just feels very good for Tua, so I mean.
Two is gonna score, 2 is gonna score more points, so let's not
overthink it. Two is gonna score more points.
That's where I'm at. Yeah, I'm good with Tua.
And if we get a crazy Geno slide, we could do 2 QBs.
Yeah, we could. All right, our team here through
11 rounds. Cooper Cup T Higgins from Andre
Stephenson Breese Hall George Pickens JSN Kyle Pitts and DE
Andre Swift 2 picks Davis wanted that.
He's immediately turned heel on Jacobi Myers.
Rashad Penny into a. So the thing here that you.
Don't. We didn't leave to 100%, right?
We should have pushed to Yeah, we shouldn't have.
But also, we wouldn't have been able to come up with another
answer. Yeah, guys, that's the
opportunity cost. Pick guys to chat.
What's the pick we were supposed to take?
Where are we going? A.
Chain was what, Davis? Flood, Yeah.
Bummer, guys. Adam feeling we could have
pushed. Adam feeling around the wrap.
See I. Don't think we should go running
back. I think we should find the
receiver is just going to keep getting thinner, right?
Like, is it Curtis Samuel season?
No. No, there actually is a guy I
like that I've not heard mentioned once on a fantasy
podcast yet this year. But why is?
I'm just going to say it. I don't care if they're
listening, they're listening. Why is Rasheed Shaheed not a
bigger deal? I mean 11 Dome games.
He's like he scored like a bajillion fantasy points over
expected last year. He's the third wide receiver on
the team. We expect to throw even more
than they did last year. The running back room is a mess.
Car is worst case as good as Andy Dalton was last year, best
case like a meaningful upgrade on their quarterback situation
last year. And the market is already
telling us they expect Michael Thomas to be dead.
If the market was expecting 70 games and Michael Thomas, he'd
be like a fourth round pick. But that is the answer, cuz last
year Shaheed was at #2 and it's Thomas and it's Warren Johnson
and it's Kamara the. Reason is because of the groin
and he was out, that's what last week.
He's out so long. Is he back?
He is back, I think. Yeah, he is.
He's been practicing, but there. They're backup wide receivers.
I don't see anyone who is alike for like, like, I don't really
see anyone who would press him out of the role that he's in.
In their offense. It's Keith Kirkwood who is
Useless Trike 1 Smith, who literally is the most useless
player. Who?
It's a law that presses him out if if Michael Thomas hits in any
kind of meaningful way and then it, then it's Michael Thomas
underneath and a lava downfield, like that's what it becomes,
right? Yeah.
I just I view.
I mean and maybe maybe it's just like I'm I'm buying in too much
the small sample of him scoring so much over expectation as a
rookie. But he seems he seems like sort
of the ultimate. It's Week 7.
George Pickens, like, misses a week because he's got like an
ankle thing and we're like, all right, whatever she heed as the
wide receiver three and he he rips off.
Like a 63 yard and around touchdown or something.
I don't know. I I not saying we have to take
him here, but I just, I don't. I wonder why you like more
Shaheed or Alec Pierce? Because I think they're kind of
similar. Is Darnell Mooney still there?
He is. Yeah.
I. In another similar type of yeah,
yeah, but I mean, the Saints are going to throw.
I mean, what do you guys have? Team level projection, 580
passes for the Saints. So we're on the clock.
I do honestly think we go running back here as opposed to,
I think a chain. Then.
I think a chain is a better pick than she.
I don't think we have to. I mean, all these wide receivers
are trashed. Might as well get some good
running backs. Starts late.
Do we like a chain or Rochon or what's?
I like. I like Rochon too.
I'm. I'm willing to go either one of
those guys, depending on what you.
Guys, what do you guys like? With this start, I think we can
take the biggest swing possible. The chain is the much.
Bigger thing. It's probably bigger swing.
And it gives us a stack. close your eyes.
It's week 16. Rihi Mostert is injured for the
third time. Jeff Wilson Junior is averaging
3.3 yards per carry behind a bad offensive line.
The team needs a spark. Devin a chain has 8 targets in
the first half against whoever the fucking Dolphins play in
week six. I can.
See it? Oh, I thought.
It's about the Colts. Aren't all these three, these
guys getting traded to the Colts?
You. Know OK, this is actually
interesting. I actually think a chain becomes
in a weird way a better pick if Jonathan Taylor gets traded
there, because probably one of the the guys goes back and he
just becomes a pure contingent guy.
Like it's like, but like a clear one for one.
Like you're not worried about the other guys mixing in.
Don't buy that. Fair enough.
You you think they would You think the Colts would even want
Moster or Wilson back like they would if they wanted it back?
It would be a chain. Yeah, they would want a chain
back. I'm going.
I want to look in 2020 and see what.
Wasn't there a report that they were looking to get Waddle back
for JT? That was the that was the thing.
And then McAfee said that wasn't unreasonable and everyone got
mad at him. So in let me I thought I wasn't
logged on to that hit in Jonathan Taylor's rookie year
Nahim Heinz got 76 targets is that do we think like something
like that per game pace for a chain is impossible if Jonathan
and obviously and this is like Jonathan Taylor.
Who knows? I just to me, part of the
selling point of a chain is the ambiguity in the fact that you
have these like career journeymen, older backs off,
injured, you have this system here that can produce points
from anyone. Like GT is a massive, massive
roadblock. So I'm just saying I'm yeah, I
don't think a chain goes to being like an 18th round pick if
Jonathan Taylor is traded. There's all I'm saying.
The other the other thing I would say about your targets
question like in all seriousness would be that was a.
A Phillip Rivers team, right, who throws to the back like an
absolute spirit amount and the Miami system coming over from
San Fran, like one of the low key things about them last year
that I was predicting and it came true.
And I'm saying again, this year they paid Alec Ingold a huge
contract to come be their fullback, just like the Niners
of Cal Use Check. And then they actually use
Ingold in the. Past 23 targets.
He got Yeah, that's a decent chunk of their running back
volume because no one else was throwing to the fullback like no
other offense throws to their fullback.
At all. Like, certainly not to that
degree. I mean, not none cuz you use
Jack and there's a couple others, but then Tyree Kill also
gets a ton of stuff around the line of scrimmage.
Their true running backs don't really get a lot of targets.
It's a pretty low. Number if you add up Moster,
Wilson and Edmonds, it's over 80 between the three of those guys.
So I don't know if that I don't know if I would.
Say that's still a lot of targets last year and like a
chain was. I mean, he's a very athletics BD
guy, like. They're not gonna force targets
to Jeff Wilson. I agree with that for sure, and
most are. But I think a chain might be a
little bit more pre CMC. You can go through the Niners
history, no targets for anyone for like a bunch of years, until
you get all the way back to when Carlos Hyde got all those
targets from whoever that one backup quarterback was that was
just checking down for five games like.
Had an absurd. Clip.
Method I think. But they spent a. 3rd on on a
chain. It's not like he's some.
They spent it, they spent it. And that was their first.
But I think they think of him as a good scheme fit.
I my take was bad. People have talked about the
outside zone and everything. Like they think of him as like a
change of pace, Kevin Coleman type in their system, not
necessarily a 90 target. Like I think a different read on
what my read on what they see in him.
It was a bad take for John, for Taylor.
Trade is bullish for Devin a chain.
But like, I just. I'm thinking out loud, all
right? It's like I take it back, just
shut up. Moster goes after H8.
It is a little bit of a jump the shark, I mean I I don't know A
chains is a better pick for our bill that has the the the Upside
18 poster had a moster at all summer.
That's what Pat and I were talking about this.
This morning it's hilarious because a chains been going
ahead all summer and then the non trade happens and now it's
taking poster at H8. I don't understand.
I If you're on one side or the other consistently, I get it.
But I don't know why JT not going there means most are over
aging better. I haven't been taking aging,
like, at all. Yeah, I thought.
I thought he's been overpriced most of the offseason, even
though I do think there's an antifragile element to him.
For sure. I've.
Got 6%, most are, I've got. 15% a chain with most of that coming
since he got hurt and he got 20 spots for and I have 11% Jeff
Wilson. Which I?
Represent. My feelings about the situation.
We do get our first 49ers or our first defense peeled off the
board here at 13 One. Love to see you guys.
Know who we should take? Rondell Moore.
Can I can I introduce you in a short king?
No, we got. I have.
I've got six other short kings in the queue.
Ben, we're gonna need them. We are gonna need them.
I like one of these short kings a lot.
Yeah, there's we got some short kings in the queue that I think
are all palatable picks. I do.
Is Curtis Amel on there? I do.
I ironically think he's gonna run a lot of routes and is a
good fit for the Steep. Yeah, well, I like that guy.
Johan Dodson's ADP went up. 20 spots in around six and Curtis
Samuel has been the wide receiver 76 since May 1st to
August 30th. He's got to be his delta of wide
receiver movement. It's got to be the lowest 80P
fluctuation of I'm. Actually taking that, and I'm
not a big fan. Yeah, I was.
I was going to be pretty excited if Shaheed came back.
But I would say if we zoom out right, we've got Cup, Higgins,
Pickens and Myers. Right.
Sad kind of, yeah. We've got Stevenson and an
Eagles back, so like our early season starting lineup is pretty
solid. I feel like we should be
swinging for the fences. Like I don't think going for
guys with routes and stuff like we don't really need to do that.
I think we do for the same reasons that we take like 7
receivers in other leagues, like we can miss T Higgins.
Could be nothing. George Pickins can get hurt like
you do need redundant. But I guess I would say what is
even what are even the profiles that are actually swing for the
fences versus trying to lock in production.
Yeah, yeah. So it would be like it would be
like taking one downs instead of 1.
Down. Wandale, Michael Wilson, Michael
Wilson. On this team.
Unfortunately for. US Wandale Wandale is locking in
production, let me tell you. I mean, I'm gonna have to.
Sign on Wandale. But I'm just more saying, like,
to Gretch's point, I still think like this bill has room for a
guy like Curtis Samuel. Like a Curtis Samuel and then a
Wandale on this turn I think would be an.
Awesome turn for the wide receiver.
Build I think one more Jacoby Myers, Curtis, Samuel type is
helpful. I mean, the way you guys are
talking, I'm worried Gretch is going to float Van Jefferson.
That's, you know, I'm just offenses here.
We gotta worry. About.
That man. Ron The other is going to get
dusted by two two Atwell, so wrong, wrong wrong.
High pointing Rams wide receiver Pat.
All right, I was just saying I was getting.
A little worried, OK? All right.
Oh, shit. I would.
I think I like Curtis Samuel. Are there any other Curtis
Samuel is just Jacoby Myers, but playing for the Commanders.
Yes, that's kind of the idea. We might cut one of them.
One of them might get hurt. One of their offenses might
suck, but like I know we're not little team running backs, but
Chuba Hubbard is pretty fun. Yeah, Hubbard.
I like more on a classic ship chasing team where you might
have to start in week two. I feel like we might even just
be done at running back, honestly.
Right. Me too.
Might be, yeah. But I just wanted to float him,
cuz he's one of the last running backs.
That's. Kind of interesting.
I like Hubbard, but not in this build.
OK. Yeah, that's fine.
Right, let's we're into scratch off receiver territory.
Yeah, yeah. All right.
Thank you for letting Gretchen I get our condom wide receiver
pick. And.
We can throw away picks on. Guys, we're the dads always that
we got. I mean, we.
Have to worry. About these things you know.
Speaking of Speaking of Jumping the Shark, we have gotten to
peak offseason when the chat is mentioning Diami Brown.
How is I'm just seeing David, Yeah.
Like, as Davis is talking that I'm seeing Davis commenting the
chat, Diami Brown absolutely sucks.
Like what is? Happening I will.
Just Davis saw that chat and pushed him over the edge onto
the Curtis table. But he's like, I'm in.
You know what? I'm in on Samuel.
I feel like the the chats like a little loopy tonight, like the
takes are pretty bad from the chat tonight.
They're having a rough show, but like we're all at the end of our
rope here. So I'm gonna give the chat a
pass, like we're all just it's been a long drafting season.
But you guys are having a rough show tonight.
Well, I mean they gotta bounce back cuz they got a Friday
marathon. Speaking of the end of drafting,
then you're you're finally gonna come to the end of the 1:50.
Yeah, I'm terrified what the chats gonna look like for that.
That's why I'm having mimosas, you know, to just kind of help
my eyes. Oh, I like Karain's choice A.
A lot. A lot.
Podium, podium. We want to go to.
Podium, podium. Podium Krain nailed it.
Oh, are we on the clock? Yeah.
OK. Hang on one SEC.
Let. Me.
Look, this guy. I don't know why we don't have a
Justin Ross clip, but I want to roll that.
Clip, too Justin Ross does feel like a guy.
We should have a clip. For we should definitely have a
clip for Justin Ross today. He's like this.
Guy's been played since 2012. I'm like, dude.
I want to tell Davis as the Justin Ross drum beat gets gets
louder. Was I talking about you, Davis?
This is the face of. This is the face of capitulation
right here. I love the picker rate.
I was like, dude. I think I was talking about
Davis, too. You.
I'm. I'm.
You had to have been because no one else.
The thing is, is no one else was even talking about Justin Ross.
I was just so mad about this imagined conversation about
Justin. Ross.
Yeah, and look, we get to take, we get to take a peek.
If he posts 7 for 1-12 and two against the Lions, you know in
the in the starting lineup. Every once in a while.
Stephanie put Justin Ross in my head cuz I saw in the chat
someone mentioned him and I was like, that's it.
So I can't even take credit. I'm pretty sure it was
Stephanie. I can't find the comment now.
Well, the chat was riled up after I said they were having a
bad show that really poked the bee's desk there.
I will say like when you practice safe sex with Jacoby
Myers Curtis Samuel, you wrap it up every once in a while.
You're allowed to raw dog it. I mean, cut him off Justin Ross
and just really go to Pound Town.
I mean that is the pick that. We've earned right.
We we ate our vegetables with. Curtis We did, we we ate, we ate
our Jacobi Meyers vegetable, we took our Curtis Samuel
multivitamin and then we got to have a cupcake after dinner.
Dude, you can look back on that swift pick now and be kind of
comfortable like this 7 receiver built at this point.
Has some upside, has some floor like I'm actually kind of
excited about what we know the. Jacobi Meyers unlocked the
DeAndre Swift pick, and no one wants to admit it.
So true. I hate it.
There is there. Is there anything, Is there
anything more demoralizing than pulling up a slow draft and
realizing you took Jonathan Taylor?
Oh. No.
What? Let's see it at what picks.
Me A. Lot 29.
Oh dude, I have a lot of those starts too.
What? What happened to the star Beth
then? I think literally you you just
take him at the top of the queue, the guy at the top of the
queue, and move on with you. I'm saying you drafted him right
now, right? You're saying you no.
I'm saying. I'm saying I drafted him.
Idiot mean eight days ago. Drafted him right.
Yeah. Oh, OK, but just like.
I think from here on out on that draft, you just pick in three
seconds and you just don't put any more rental.
We don't. We.
We, Gretch.
No surrender knows he's the. Lowest He'll take Jeff Wilson,
10 picks above 80P and you know we're getting I'm.
Literally. You know what?
I'm literally taking Devon a chain I'm literally going to
take. No, no.
Taylor's out is still getting traded to my end.
You don't want to take a chain. No.
It's too late. I literally already
do it. I'm just gonna start.
Stacking other names that are related.
I'm gonna take. I think inverse, unless he goes
back to Indy, maybe that's maybe, hey, maybe you'll have
the starting running back for Indy, but it's HA.
Well, I liked. I honestly like taking Wilson
with him because I'm just like get me 4 weeks and then Taylor
goes there and I'm cold and but. I think I'll just take 7 running
backs on all the teams or that I open up and then I see Jonathan.
I'm just gonna treat him like a zero.
It didn't just treat like you did.
You lost a pick like I lost the pick.
Yeah. Forget drafting like you're
right. It's time to draft like you're
fucking wrong. Draft like draft like just an
absolute drunken idiot version of.
You made the prior 15 picks your first.
Your your second 10 picks should be mopping up the mess of your
first 10 picks. These guys all suck.
For this idiot. I already got 9 receivers, but
eight of them suck. I guess I'm taking a 10.
The I am starting to feel. Slow draft fatigue.
It is becoming a bit David, you told me you weren't getting
burned out. You told me you were having the
time of your life and that you found your sense of purpose in
life. The fast drafts are still fun.
The slow.
Drafts still hitting. Yeah, but the slow drafts.
Slow drafts. Yeah, here's my question.
You've done this push and you're trying to Max everything and all
this in 2023. When you look ahead to the end
of this football season, do you see 2024 going the same way and
doing 1000 drafts again? Honestly, no, because I think
the field is going to be better next year.
I think we are going to see, I think we are pretty close.
To people developing tools to just draft for them, like, I
think that's not the reason. The reason is you're not gonna
be chasing courage. You're gonna be chasing Chunky
Monkey 69, and it's not gonna be a spot.
You're also, yes. Also like the.
It's like chunky. I want to get a chasing Chucky
mug. It feels, it feels like, it
feels like a Cabal member is just like a lock to win every
best ball mania. Like it's not going to be
karain. It's going to be buying for or
whatever. And then I'm going to be like,
well, buying for one. So I gotta, I gotta do it again.
They're still handed out these these Cabal Member Best Ball
Media Championships got to get buy while supplies last.
You guys, are we taking the draft where all of our wide
receiver targets don't get taken anymore?
They're all still here in the queue.
Are we taking another short King?
Yeah, I I hate to toss this out because I know we're in our raw
dog phase right now. But pairing Justin Ross with
Richie James is not a hateful idea.
It's a I would say it's. I mean, it's a perfectly
cromulent idea theater. There's your bingo card.
Check. It off.
Any thoughts? From the two of you on that that
idea. What if I don't hate it?
What if we already have Seven and I almost want to go towards
Titan Twoish? Like what if Ferguson?
What if we play? What if we play a clip?
I think. Oh, Steve, save Stephanie some
waivers. Oh, I'd be into that.
I did it last night. I did it last night at the main
event. We took Harrison Bucker.
Which clip are you talking about?
He's talking about Justin. OK, all right.
Just yeah, then, you said. Bucker.
It's the only guy we have in mush, to be honest.
Like, he's so good we can't even mush him.
Yeah, let's just take him. Who cares?
All right, I just want, just for the record to show the clip is
for Justin Tucker, even though we're selecting Baltimore Ravens
team place kicker, I just want that distinction to be made.
Oh. And if there's one way to
distract the chat from the fact that you are just getting
absolutely buried in a wide receiver avalanche, you just
play that clip and everyone forgets.
For at least. 30 seconds I feel. I feel pretty confident.
Every guy I have in the queue is not going to be selected in this
draft, so. I'm not even in the room.
But do you guys, do you guys have, does it matter one bit?
Do you guys not a single person? It's actually in the player.
Pool OK, we did. We made a mistake, though.
We should have taken Ty Chandler instead of Justin Ross.
I was not on the ball on that one.
I actually I. Don't think we need.
Ross, we need running backs. Miles Gaskin is a legit issue
for Chandler, and I've been a huge Chandler bull this whole
offseason. No, dude, he's Miles Gaskin.
Dude, don't do that to our buddy's friend.
So. Gerald Everett and Jake Ferguson
to me, are both pretty solid picks at this point as potential
backup tied in twos. I put a name.
I put a name in the. I put a name in the chat.
Michael, this is gonna be our. George Pickens.
This is gonna be our last. What happened to all of us
taking stabs at wide receivers here?
And now we're all off the wide receiver.
Path. Actually, like difference makers
at Titan and QB, I do think it's really flat at receiver.
We can take a stab at downs. It's probably not gonna change.
Downs would be my wide receiver, but I think there's a running
back that'll be, this will be the last upside running back
available and then they're all gone.
We don't need a running back. This is the last thing we need.
Who's going back? I'd be Wandale over downs.
Didn't want. To number #15 on the 0 running
back list, I'm with Gretch. I think I'm Wandale.
Over downs. Wandale, Let's do it.
Okay, let's do Wandale then I think we need the Water Seer
website. Short King Summer bitches.
All right, Wandale. Robinson We got one, we got one.
We got one. Davis, I think that your guy
will come back, won't he? Yeah.
I mean, at the point in which Kyron Williams goes, all bets
are off at running back like like anyone could go.
Yeah, fair enough. So structurally here, I think
the issue with the running back, right we have four more picks.
I do agree with Gretch that we're probably gonna like a
tight end value with one of these.
That leaves three more. One of them's A defensive pick.
So that leaves two. And I we don't want to back up
too. I kind of feel like backing up
too, yeah. Do most, Yeah.
And there's some. There's some interesting
quarterback names with legit upside here.
Too right? What's that?
So I think that leads one pick for a wide.
The the chat pointing out our running back room is 40%?
Eagles makes me rethink that. We're so strong running back.
Tucker was the guy. That's a shame.
I don't think we're super strong at running back.
I do think, I think, I think if we are like if the Eagles
running backs, if we get, if we get handcucked by Kenneth
Gainwell like this team was. Dead.
So be it. This team was dead already and
we're not going to. That's not happening.
I'm not. I do not subscribe to the
possibility that Kenneth Gainwell will cut both DeAndre
Swift in a shot of time. That is.
That is a fabrication. That is a preseason nonsense
fabrication. Not I do subscribe to.
It I think he's pretty good. I.
Mean. Yeah.
He's he's pretty good. The guy who founded the table
for both Swift and Betty subscribed to the thought that
Kenneth Gain Wells get a hand, cook a vote.
I could see it. I mean, I don't think it's 0%.
Just not have. No, we just don't.
Know. Peter.
David, your head is just fucking spitting everything.
I can't keep track of your takes.
But so I did want to say on the two a point like, and it's not
just about the concussions or whatever.
So Pickett goes, we maybe could have paired him with with
pickings. My like this is a format where
with 20 yards per passing point and six point for passing TV
quarterback replaceability, it's kind of like or whatever
quarterback like. The you want points from
quarterback is what I'm trying to say.
You're saying you can't just go to the waiver wire and get
anybody? Right.
You kinda need like multiple shots at like a decent, viable
quarterback score and maybe even play matchups a little bit
because, I mean, whatever. Like, we haven't done that yet.
But like Pickett was a reasonable option.
He's now gone. There's a couple others.
I do think we should roster. A second probably is my point.
All right. I'm in, I'm in on the name in
the chat. I know Pat's in.
Pat loves this guy. Can't get him, Can't get him to
stop talking about this guy. I'm all about him in manage.
I prefer him in weekly winners. John Madden Tate.
I don't know. Are they gonna?
Is weekly winners gonna fill Peter, why are you asking me?
I don't know. I don't, I don't know if it will
74% that's a. Long best Ball Porno made about
you, dude. Well, the weekly Wieners parody
is apparently. Coming out soon.
Yeah. I think it's going to overlay
probably the chat. The chat doesn't get that.
If Lawndale had never been injured, I mean, he would have
been going as like the wide receiver 53 all offseason.
I agree with that. Wandell I I went to look it up
because I wanted to make sure it wasn't a false memory.
He got targeted 30 times on 140 routes as a member of the Giants
last year. Yeah, that's a lot.
That's a lot. That is a lot.
So the the the kind of collective disdain for Wandell
Robinson, like the amount of shit I got for taking him all
off seat. And then the second Paris
Campbell had one good snap at OTA's and then he jumped like 4
rounds. Like people just do not want to
like Wandell Robinson for whatever reason.
But I'm excited Wandell Wandell is going, Wandell's going now.
I got sniped on him multiple times today.
Now that now that he's avoiding the pup and stuff people are are
all in now, well, that's all it takes. 11 blurb.
One highlight and then people get reminded about a guy again.
The people, the people, I gotta stop with the chat.
They're not having a good show. Not.
Having a good show? Write it on.
Write it on your forehead, Davis.
I gotta stop with the chat we got.
We got people comping Houston tank Dell to Wandale who got
recruited to Nebraska as a fucking four-star running back
like enough. I just.
I can't. Sam Howe, Sam Howe.
Yeah, Sam Howe, I think. Makes a lot of sense.
Yeah, this is a this is an upside cut here.
Let's do it. Stacking my bitch up.
Courtesy, Samuel. Let's go.
That's right, everyone wants to stack up Sam Howe with Johann
Dotson and Terry Mcgonigs. Everyone wants to real actor
with courtesy. Everyone wants to stack their
first round pick. We stack our 13th round pick.
And that's right. All right, let's recap this team
so far as we have only three more picks to go Cooper Cup, T
Higgins From Andre Stephenson, Brees Hall, George Pickens, JSN
Kyle, Pits DE Andre Swift, Jacoby Myers, Rashad Penny Tua,
Devon. A Chain courtesy annual Justin
Ross Baltimore Roll the Clip Ravens Wandali Robinson and Sam
Howell. Guys, Speaking of our first pick
is Matthew Stafford. Matthew Stafford still
available, comes going off. We probably should.
We know that, right? I think, I think how many times
has. I like how.
Gone off with Stafford having like 21 1/2 points.
I feel like that's like like an infinite.
Number of times. Yeah, like like 183 yards and
one touchdown for Cooper Cup is 18 1/2 points for Matthew
Stafford. Stafford's just gonna get cut
anyway. If he does get picked at all, he
might not even get drafted. So if we want to add him later,
we'll just do that. Jaleel, Jaleel, McLaughlin,
McLaughlin. This guy leading Russia and NCAA
history? This dude, this dude is I I
mean, you guys are you guys are in dynasty leagues with me, but
none of you have responded to a trade offer for me and weeks, so
I'll say it. He your guys's interaction on
that like it was I was what, 100?
Percent Ben I am in fucking jail in this league.
I am in jail in this league. There's one good team.
It's Michael Leone. But he has no picks.
But his team is insane. It is like one of the three
greatest dynasty rosters I've ever seen.
So I'm tanking. But because Leone is going to
win this league at a Cantor, no one will give up anything for
anyone. I mean, I'm sending like four
guys. For a fucking second round pick.
And people like to get out of here.
Like, I don't have time for this and I just, I admit I'm in
fucking jail. Davis is maybe screenshots of
trade calculators. I expect that behavior from some
people, Davis. I don't expect that from you.
Real Britain. Real Britain.
Divine move of me. Screenshots of trade
calculators. Davis in fucking 2023.
I just love that your your your conversation devolved to Davis
being like. That is too fancy.
Football is not enjoyable. And then Pete was like, Minimus,
I'm time for this anymore. Yeah, I I don't have, I don't
have. I got the notice.
Hey, man, you gotta you gotta cut some dude off.
Cut some dudes off these rosters.
I was like 7 guys over the limit past the deadline.
So point being, if you're in a league with me, please respond
to my trade offers. Have you sent me any trade
offers? No, no, I haven't.
Can we just take Richie James at this?
Richie. James Yeah, yeah, it's come do
it. Roll Roll the clip producer.
Roll it. Is there a Richie James clip?
No. But I like that we have so many
clips that you believed it for a second.
Now I was doing the clip, just him running three yards and turn
around. Yeah, dude.
I mean, real ones will never forget the game against the
Packers. Devo Samuel was $200.00 in
Showdown. Coming off of the short term IR
Richie James was like 8% owned. He went off.
He was the win. He was the highest scoring
player who was the captain. Like an absolutely legendary
performance. I think if we combine Swift and
Penny together, we have the running back, the top five
running back if we combine. Justin Ross and Richie James.
We have a top 12 wide receiver. We've got it.
We've got MDS from last year. So if we can Brian Priest Hall
with the guy with a healthy knee, we.
Gotta start right back. Irrefutable clicks.
Sorry guys, I'm just making some slow draft picks here in the
Puppy 3. Yeah, I feel you, man.
All right, Davis, it's been probably 3 hours since I logged
into Underdog. How many teams do you think I'm
on the clock on right now? 4.
Zero, actually, right now. Oh my God.
It's going to be my life in a week.
There's no reason for me to get fussy right now.
I'll be done with this in a week.
Fussy. No, Davis, because then you're
going to be making 1900 milli Baker teams and no, I won't.
I won't be. My DFS action is is far more
simple, way more simple. Mostly single entry stuff.
For showdown, I'll do it. But that takes like that takes
like 30 minutes. Dude, you're gonna get the itch
and you're gonna be like I'm gonna mme lock button Gino with
Locket stacks for all the money I'll give you.
I'll give you guys a little sneak preview of the of the the
Showdown show with with easy cut over to layers $3800 in the
opening slate against the Lions. And if you made me set odds, I
would make him. +10 Five to lead the Chiefs backfield and snaps
and touches in Week 1. Whoa.
It's just how they do things, right?
Because you should. Be drafting more client Edwards?
Later now, Gretch, it's gonna be the same thing that happened
last year. By Week 6, he's gonna be a
complete afterthought and barely playing.
But he's also gonna be the right handcuff.
Like, I've thought this for a while.
I thought that the generic print stuff.
Was like out over the skis, just cuz it happened with Pacheco
last year, right? Yes, Right.
Yeah. Well, the second week at
training camp, and I didn't notice this until later, Kyle
Devorchek pointed out to me they stopped him returning kicks
really early on. They were like, Nah, we're just
gonna have Richie James do that. So at that point he was dead.
He was dead. He was dead.
And when you already have Pacheco as a young back in your
backfield, there is an advantage to then having Ch be one of your
three. And you have this other sort of
like Fat that knows the playbook.
But they don't think he's good. They don't think he adds
anything, but they also like can rely on him to like play every
down and do stuff if they need him to.
Jacob actually just had a great right up and thinking about
thinking about 4700 words on the Chiefs backfield and the the
TLDR is McKinnon is overpriced. The Checo's role could expand,
but is not likely to because Mckinnon's so good at his
specialized role and Clyde is like 50 spots too cheap.
Right. Way too cheap.
That yeah, we took Clyde, We took Clyde in the main event
last night. Are you worried, Davis?
I'm seeing some steam on Ch? I was doing a BBM 4 draft
earlier. I think it's I'm going like. 4
teeth round to a blindfolded guy.
I am a little worried about being in a room with a
blindfolded guy who couldn't remember any other player other
than that he thinks clad over. It's hilarious and ceiling.
By the way, if you don't know a reference, you got the swell
cast today. David Kitchen drafted the team
while literally blindfolded and we were able to picks that had
come off the board but not who was available.
So there was a couple panic picks and one of them involved
Clyde Edward Solaire. And like the he did, he did run
so pure and that his pocket pics of Deshaun Watson, David and
Joke who trailing Burks de Andre Hopkins, they were all available
like 5 to 15 spots after ADP. So he would run very pure in
that sense. That's awesome.
The other funny one, he took Gerald Everett at 124.
I don't know why that would really killed me.
For Sally. Freaka, that's huge of a reach.
It's just very funny. Everett, Because Everett is not
a Everett is not a podium pick for anyone.
Never goes around. He's barely a podium pick, yeah.
He just went on the 18th round of this draft that I've been
trying to talk to you guys into him for like 3 rounds and I
wasn't really trying that hard because he's not a podium.
I don't know. I figured out.
This voltage still on.
Board I I was just gonna, I was gonna say that I was like, this
feels like too cheap. Yeah, at this point we take him.
There is a nut defense that we won't have to do waivers on for.
The Saints. Yeah, yeah, for like 7 weeks.
Yeah, they're that one this year for sure, and I'm definitely
down with that. Yeah.
Then tight end, Yeah, he'll probably get cut though, right?
He will. I mean, we're gonna cut Sam
Howell so fast. So yeah, what the fuck.
Because when you're doing week one, when you're doing Week 1
waivers, you don't wanna cut. One Dale cuz you're like, I
don't know dude. Maybe he'll do.
All we've been doing is drafting shitty wide receivers for the
past eight rounds and you're like, we're gonna cut Sam.
Hell, the first thing. I mean we're gonna have like 8
other guys to cut. Well, we'll probably cut whoever
is a healthy scratch in week one between Ross and James, right?
Yeah, that's my point. So.
Probably one of those two. Yeah, let's say hell.
Kick off his shoes and stay a while.
Don't. We can.
We take dulcets here. Can we do dulcet?
Sure, sure. Whatever.
Yeah. I think, say, I mean, if team
two takes the Saints, whatever, Team one already has a defense,
how are they looking on tight ends?
They have Juan, they have three tight ends.
Team two only has one. Yeah, let's go dolsage.
Yes. Dolsage here is dumb.
God, you're right, producer. It's and even.
There's actually, there's actually there's actually no,
there's actually no video of him because he's a false.
There's a Tyke 1 Thorny. It's hilarious that he is.
Out. Oh my God, look at that hair.
Oh my God. Oh my God.
It's so beautiful. Do you what?
What's great about this clip, it being a throwback to so many
things, but back when Pat wasn't a millionaire and would spend
time making clips? That's that's.
This. Clip.
That's I love that clip too, man.
There's like so many moments of that where I'm like, I'm all the
way back in. I I did.
I did have this thought reading, stealing signals today.
Gretch did had like this like 2 paragraph thing about how like
we might just be over interpreting some of this
preseason stuff. Cuz there are real football
reasons to do some of the things that have nothing to do with how
they plan on deploying guys in the regular season.
And Dulcich like having like 73% rap participation in the week
one and like us completely forgetting this preseason shit
and him dropping to the tight end 29 or whatever, it just ends
up being completely absurd. And like, every Denver wide
receiver is just like the final destination.
And yet Greg Dulcich just like keeps dropping in a DP.
Yeah. I was in the the Rottweiler
today. I did, I did.
I've done one so far and I did a Herbert stack.
And you don't even really need to game stack that because it's
a 16 final. But I still did.
And I just was like, I kind of was in the range to take dosage.
And I was like, I'm pushing them another round and you're gonna
let me have them. And they did.
Everyone, let me have. Them.
Yeah, full round pass ADP. It's kind.
Of nice It really is it's it's it's crazy how just there we go
we get This is why you let the you let the Saints come around
the raft. Are there any other defenses
here? When the Saints when the Saints
come marching and but the the Dolce stuff is crazy that it I
because if you think about it being efficient right.
It would be like kind of a wash right.
Like, that usage is an ideal in the preseason, but then there's
so much opportunity now with these injuries.
Like in Otherwise you would think that would kind of
mitigate it and everyone just like, ah man, I saw that Nathan
Jenke screenshot. I can't.
Catch this guy? No man.
No man has more unchecked power in fantasy football than than
Nathan Yankee. It's true that dude, that dude
could write anything. People are not double checking
people. Like I'm not double checking.
I'm not double checking that. Shit, you was like Nathan Yankee
could be like Clyde. Edward Solaire was a punt gunner
and played note and people just like, yeah, definitely never
see. It.
Again, yeah, that's true. He should do.
He should really try to push this.
And. Not only would people agree,
people would tout that on every podcast like oh dude Ch print
special teams. Now did you hear like 2-2?
Atwell's running at 2 wide receiver sets ahead of Cooper
Cup right now. Let's just see what happens.
I mean, I'm telling you, Week 4 breakdown.
Because people forget there's not a week 4 preseason, right?
There used to be 4 weeks to do preseason week four and just
make shit up. Just make the highlights of
preseason week four. He He wouldn't get away with it,
he. Could get away with it.
He could be. He could be like Jaleel
McLaughlin was playing on 1st downs over Javante Williams and
he was just rotating him as a satellite back and all of a
sudden you'd be in a basketball mania and Jaleel McLaughlin
would go in the 13th round. You'd be like, what?
Yeah, I thought you guys know Vault.
No, we just know Yankee. That's it.
I know Yankee and I know stealing signals.
And that is how, if those two places lied to me, I'd have
nothing left. Gretch, you could do this too.
Yeah. Gretchen, I don't know if
Gretch, I mean no disrespect, but I don't think he moves the
market the way the way, Mr. Bonkey.
Absolutely, though well, it's because Gretch needs just more
little emojis at the end of his, you know, You know, another guy,
another guy who could do this would be Levitan.
Not not with the preseason stuff, but with the with the
narratives or with the the athletic blurbs.
Because most people, I would guess 10% of people who play
basketball mania have an athletic subscription, but they
all follow Levitan and Levitan could be like he could just be
pulling the the worst shit about Dalton Kincaid from these
articles, like whatever whatever.
If there's any negative out there, he could he could push
Kincaid down to like Titan 15. He can control the the blurb is
is is levitating to put the athletic out of business dude
like who's who's buying the cow when Levitan's giving the milk
away for free every day he he is this is this is like three
seasons of ship chasing ago but he is actually pre prepay wall
Pete but he's prepay wall levitude.
Do you want to know the thing with the athletic.
So that was the whole thing Pat was like gotta get on the
athletic or whatever and he's like sign up for this free
trial. I've been getting charged
fucking auto charged once a year and I've never got into cancel
that. So it happened like clearly part
of Big Athletic got me as like a code for a free month and now I
pay for it every year. I need the.
Screenshots on Twitter I fell for the it's a dollar for six
months thing and so. That's a full price.
I've been paying full price for the athletic for years.
Yeah, I like supporting my guys. Yeah.
The the no. Now we feel very about
supporting me. About it clearly.
Look it it is a valuable service.
I get. I I sure whatever I pay for it.
But if I was not a a a virgin drafting fantasy football teams,
I don't know. Like, what would the average fan
of of the Kansas City Chiefs get out of reading the 53 man roster
projection? People love it, dude.
Like, there's whole. There's fan sites.
There's. Yeah, there.
Yeah, it's true. All right.
What? I mean, you know, whatever.
Yeah. I mean, fans.
Think about all the fans that are in, like, fantasy analyst
mentions. Like those are the guys that are
devouring every single piece of written content about their
team. All right, Crane, if Levitan
tweeted. What?
If Levitan tweeted that Patrick Mahomes and Justin Ross were
bowling buddies and were bowling every week, Justin Ross, Justin
Ross capitulates and flips Rashi Rice in ADP within Rice.
Like not even a bit. I I think not even a bit if he
if he if he pulled up like some Kansas City Star article where
like Justin Ross and Mahomes are like friends, like they have
like a Thursday night bowling league or something.
You guys, you guys, I just got a really great tweet.
I got you got. Let's.
Printed out all your posts from June D yesterday like a dull
boomer. It's bursting through a one inch
pipe. This is a 3 inch pipe he.
This is real he 3 hole punched HE3.
Holes. And it is real.
My God and it. I this is the greatest you're
gonna ever see. Are those subsection dividers
my? Get your people, get your
people. Gotta get the shit together.
Wow. That's.
Amazing. Holy.
Cow I do I do have a. Chance for readers of Stealing
signals. And I'm thinking about thinking,
which is that the Substack app is like, beautiful.
For years I just read them in the e-mail or on the website,
but the app is actually so nice. Like it remembers where you were
in a a 9000 word screed by Ben Gretch.
So like, I had to close out of an article and I popped it back
open and it was like 76% done took, took me right back to the
spot. It's it's great.
That's cool. There's also like an AI narrator
for them. So, like I hear sometimes I read
Gretch's stuff and I I hear it in a robot woman's voice.
Nice Pat I, Pat I. Do I love the the narrated
articles on the the premium legendary upside feed?
I threw one. I I I've been listening to those
walking my dog. It's.
Oh, yeah.
I, I, that's, you know, been something.
I thought people would like her. It's just like one of the things
where if you're into that, I was hoping people would be like like
psyched about it. Yeah, but I threw a free one up
on the regular podcast feed. If people want to get a little
taste for that on the Legendary it's marketing, bro.
This guy. This guy knows ball and
marketing. You know marketing, bro.
Let's let's recap this team. Also, I mentioned it earlier.
There's going to be a stream right after this.
Pat and Sam Sherman are going to draft a Rottweiler team $350.75
K prize. We've been trying to get the ADP
chasing guys together to draft some teams.
Davis, have you had a change of heart?
You feeling like you want to draft this team?
No, dude. I've been up since 5:00 AM.
Someone T boned my car today. I'm.
I am T boned. I I was in a I was in a my old
beater car that I've had since college.
I had to put her to rest today it was I no one got hurt like it
was very low speed incident. But I was not at fault.
It's been a long day. I'm going to bed.
Yeah, I was up at 5:15 this morning as well.
But and then you guys I think are gonna also get together to
do another one, maybe prerecorded right today.
I think keep an eye out for a couple.
You and I, Are you gonna get any sleep?
You and I are podcasting at at 9:00 AM Central tomorrow.
Yeah, that's 10 AM here, so I'll be good.
OK. I have impressed Pat that you're
pulling off moving right now because all I see you doing is
is good podcast. I can't believe.
I honestly can't believe that. Like, I mean shout out to
Brittany, who's been like doing a lot of the logistical stuff
like, you know? Yeah, there's like various
things we gotta like, you know, figure out.
We gotta like, buy a car, you know?
Like, because we, I haven't had a car in like 10 years.
Wow. We've been living in New York.
Yeah. So there's like stuff like that,
you know, just like things don't how to drive.
And get together. Yeah, you don't drive bro, do
you? Know, I grew up in Delaware.
Do you? I mean everyone in soak out
drives like a maniac. Anyway, so it's all right.
You'll be good. No cars, bro.
I don't know cars at all. What kind of car you have the
team? Can we recap the team for the
audio looking? We're looking at a Tesla, maybe.
OK. I mean, she's Paris.
Pat Wow. Now he cares about the
environment now that he's a billionaire?
Typical. I'm going to move to California
and be all superior. That's.
How it works All right, let's recap the team.
For the audio listeners, thank you Davis for keeping us on
track here. Cooper Cup T Higgins From Andre
Stephenson Brees Hall George Pickens JSN Kyle Pitts DeAndre
Swift Jacoby Myers Rashad Penny Tua Devoni HN Courtesy Emo,
Justin Ross Baltimore Ravens team kicker Wandell Robinson,
Sam Howe Richie James Greg the third leg and New Orleans Saints
defense Let's do this. Let's do go around the horn.
Everyone's favorite pick and least favorite pick.
It is draft style though, so once a pick has been chosen, you
can't be duplicated. Davis favorite pick from this
draft, Cooper Cup we we would have had a way worse team, way
worse team. If we took Chris McCaffrey, we
would have taken, I guess DJ Moore or Amari.
If we instead of Hermodricks, we would not have wanted to be two
running backs out of our first three picks.
So it's like Cooper Cup I like obviously, but just structurally
it it opened us up to make other picks that were way more fun and
the worst pick. I mean, look it's obviously
Justin Ross. Like it is Justin Ross, but it's
the way it was. Also the most fun.
But it's only Davis would pick his favorite pick is what he
didn't want to make. It is least favorite what he
desperately wanted us to make right.
I thought he damn Howell was gonna be his least favorite at
the time he goes run to the podium, and now it's our worst
pick. I mean, guys, we all acknowledge
this. The most fun picks, this is
Leone's whole bit is that the most fun picks actually had the
lowest probability of paying off to where you drafted them.
And like sure, it would be very. That is Leone's whole bit that
like if Justin Ross, if Justin Ross smashes it'll be amazing.
Like we will be do we will doing fucking cartwheels down the
street if Justin Ross scores against the Lions.
But like the vast majority of times this season plays.
He's a healthy scratch like 7 times until NBS gets hurt.
And like Marcus Kemp is running routes ahead of him somehow.
That's why we took Richie James. That's why you handcuffed.
Marcus Kemp on the roster? No.
He will be, though. Marcus Kemp sounds like a
baseball player. Is that?
That's actually a football player.
Marcus Kemp. Marcus Kemp had a clutch first
down reception in the playoff game against the Jaguars.
No one knows who he is. All right, Gretch.
Favorite pick. That's not Cooper Cup.
I'll say my least favorite is a chain.
I just have not really been on him.
And then my. Favorite What'd you say?
Don't fight anybody. So don't fight.
Everyone's allowed to give their least favorite pick, Davis.
And then my favorite, I mean, I think it's got to be JSN.
It was really, really cool when he came back around.
I like him a lot, but especially when Meyers and Samuel are your
five and six. Like JSN is, your 4 is a big
deal. Yeah, yeah, Patty Million's
favorite pick. Favorite pick is the one I
didn't have any input on getting coming in, getting my computer
set up and everything. I appreciate that.
Nope. Freeze all you guys.
Just come to find that you guys have taken my favorite player in
the whole player pool without any input from me.
It was a fucking delight. And then least favorite.
Least Favorite pick? Yeah, least favorite.
I honestly would say DeAndre Swift just because.
Like we thought about Burks and we thought about Bateman there
and I just think, I think we would have more fun.
Not halfway. If we had another receiver,
right, we don't take Jacoby, we take another running back there.
I don't wanna say it's about so then we could all jerk each
other off about taking Jerome Ford like.
Yes, come on. Yes, think.
About how fun that would have been.
How how easily are you doling out hand jobs.
Davis Ford. Jerome Ford dude.
Oh, they they cut. They cut the metric felt.
Don't you know how big of a deal that is?
Like he's gonna play third downs now.
Think about how many jobs there would have been if we're getting
them for Jerome Ford. We've had a fun time.
The rest of the way alright, Is that is it to me now?
Favorite pick. Jacoby Myers?
Honestly, yeah. Favorite pick.
Someone had to be the adult in the room and say that this team
needed Jacoby Myers. That's my favorite pick.
My least favorite pick. What was my least favorite pick?
You didn't really want to click. Penny.
You know what? I will say?
I was just like, are we seriously taking Justin Tucker
here in the 15th round? I think that was my my lease.
And then I saw the way that the audience's eyes just lit up and
I realized I was wrong. But in the moment, that was my I
did. I mean, look, to be honest, I
did misread the room a little bit.
Bucker. Didn't go until the 18th round.
Like I I learned. I learned my lesson then.
It's way too early. It's way too early, way too.
But honestly, with every wide receiver we were targeting was
available from there on, there wasn't much opportunity.
The only cost was John Tucker. We picked the wrong car, Tucker.
Yeah, I put Richie James in the queue in the 13th round and we
were able to get him in the 18th round, so that didn't.
Right. Yeah.
Shocking. Yeah.
Stephanie appreciates it. Stephanie, of course, is gonna
be a running point on our waivers this year, and she
appreciates it whenever we she won't have to do kick her
defense on this team till like Week 7.
Yeah. That's amazing.
So there you go. And Davis is gonna.
Stephanie, don't let Davis cut Sam.
How? Who was the Guy Davis cut on our
dropped on our main event team last year and it tilted me to
they're they're OK. I don't remember who it was.
But there was someone I cut that I really should not have and I
think we ended up putting on him.
I I logged in and I was like, what the fuck did you just do?
You. Guys.
You guys, I remember. This I can't remember the
player. It was crazy.
Yeah. So there there are two.
There are. Two very memorable waiver
moments for me with you guys. Specifically the 1st is that we
did a $935 bid on Elijah Mitchell and won him by like
$2.00 the year that he was the guy for the 49ers.
The other one was that there was like an 8 minute bit on ship
chasing when you guys saw that I had a $1.00 bid on DeMarcus
Robinson on one of. Our teams because just because
he was a chief. For for no reason than that he
was a chief. Those are my that's one of the
reasons we had to bring it. Stephanie is partly I just, you
know, at my old age, like opening up Davis's first pass of
waiver bids can give someone a heart attack.
At least I'm not. At least I'm not $420.00 on Rex
Burke. Head like, like, like Hassan.
Hey, sometimes you do just have to live a little on waivers as
far as our programming schedule. Like I mentioned, a little high
stakes draft over on underdog immediately following this here
at 10:00 PM Eastern in a few minutes and then our final high
stakes managed draft on stream is going to be Tuesday with the
aforementioned Michael Leone. We have been doing a high stakes
draft with him each year on NFFC.
This is our third year that is going to be a $2500 draft and
we're going to do that on Tuesday.
That draft will be kicking off, I believe.
What time is that draft kicking off?
I think it's 9:00 PM. I'll double check.
But that will be our last draft before we head off to Vegas.
The three of us. I know we'll be there.
Davis, you want to make a last minute trip out to to Vegas with
the ship chasing crew? No.
Yeah, because you can't slow
draft in Vegas. That is.
That is Vegas is when you don't drink.
Vegas is like way less fun. I've been to Vegas a couple
times. It's just way less fun.
It really the fantasy it's, but it's about the community, Davis.
It's about the pizza that's Pat's buying.
It's about drafting teams. It's about, you know, I like to
keep, I like to keep some mystique.
None of these people really know how short I am.
Like, they get, they get, they get, they get a vague sense of
it from watching the streams, but they don't really know.
Are you worried that they'll see you and feel like you're not
that short? Is that the mystique?
What's the mystique? I don't know.
It's just like. I'm searching through the chat
trying to figure out who that player was just scrolling
through, and there's a spot I found where Davis wrote people
are frothy and you wrote frothy in all CAPS.
I don't even know who he's talking about.
And Pete's. Responses.
In ALL caps, Yeah, because of you dumbass.
Could be about, could be about literally anyone.
Anyone that could be that could be about Dineric Prince.
Yes. I love it, that was.
He'd said. Also, I don't love we drop Gino
here. Pick it on by.
Next week, but the Saints the week after Ellinger on the road
in New England next week doesn't sound like a fun time can.
I drop that. He's pretty much, yeah.
He dropped Gino for Sam Ellinger.
That was the one. That was the.
One pick it on by Yeah, pick it. Our corner, our main cornerback
was on by. Can he pick it?
Can he pick it on waivers? Was my greatest moment of
content ever because I had to have a 2 hour argument with Liam
about it. Because he watched him and
thought he looks good when he was like he's at a Truck Series
at a truck stop, I remember. This, I remember the Bills game.
He was only watching it because he was playing against the
Bills, right? Correct.
Oh.
God, Dave Ellinger. Oh, God.
I mean, you know what, Stephanie?
We need you. We need this backstop.
We need to Stephanie. Yeah, Davis, what else you got
going on here other than a million slow drafts?
Crane and I are doing our league winner show tomorrow, so we got
a big home draft this weekend. How many are we doing?
How many should I prep for that five?
Brees Hall. Brees Hall.
Brees Hall and Brees Hall. Brees Hall.
Not on my list. Not on my list.
I'm going to give him. I'm.
Going to give him I was. Not going to do him.
And then I listened to your pod with Daigle and he's like, it's
late August. You've all heard what I'm going
to say, but there's a bunch of people who haven't heard it yet,
so I'm saying it again. I'm looking, I'm looking at, I'm
looking at download numbers and it's August 2023.
The most listened episode of the Take cast all year long was the
FFPC main event that we did last night already.
It's got the most downloads. So the people, the people are
frothy, The people are correct. What do you got going on?
I'm just writing binders worth of content.
Yeah, you're killing rainforests, is what you're.
Doing. That's it.
That's literally all Pat you are shirking your moving duties to
make fantasy football content. Anything else?
That's right, I am. And you know it's not, it's not,
it's not the most mature thing, but that's what I'm doing.
I've been writing today. I was imagining various
scenarios in which running backs in the three through 5 range
crush and I'm gonna hopefully get that out.
I think Friday morning, I think I'm gonna have it done for
Friday morning. So look for that.
It'll be. It's sort of a follow up to the
legendary running back article, but I'm looking at running backs
going a little later. Is it true?
When you envision these legendary scenarios, you
actually sit in front of your computer and close your eyes and
rub your temples? Is that that's kind of what I've
heard. That isn't what I do.
I put on. I put on electronic music and
I'm just like. There you go.
Oh yeah. One other thing.
That'll be on the channel for ship chasing VIP members.
I'm doing best ball after dark with Bill Barnwell tomorrow.
So I'm doing randomizer with Brett Coleman.
Tell him tell him to unblock me. Tell him that now that ODA
Beckham is washed. It's fine.
We have nothing to argue about. I've put in a few unblock
requests already. We got a fill in the ship
chasing Discord. We got him unblocked.
So yes, I can get you unblocked, Davis.
We'll we'll make that happen. Greatest guy in the world.
This was the this was the great Odell becamores of 2014, man.
Ohh, you've been blocked for that long this.
Block nine years ago, you were blocked.
The Odell becamores were intense.
Man, that was Analytics on Analytics Pro.
There were not good people on both sides.
All right, hop on over. If you refresh, you guys should
see the the next event. But on this channel right now,
you got a Rottweiler draft with Pat and Sam Sherman.
Appreciate you guys. You can check that draft, check
out best ball after dark and then we'll see you guys on
Tuesday with Leonie. You guys are great.
I know I said you were having a bad show.
It wasn't. I was lashing out.
We love you. Goodnight.