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NFL this week, we're going to talk about the superflex format
over an underdog to one of those drafts.
But before I do that Ben, do you want to catch us up on happen
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There's a big soccer upset. Yeah.
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They were up 20 on the Aggregate and the second half, and then
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All right. Question in the chat here, about
rookie wide receivers. I was promised I had to promise
Eric, we wouldn't talk about Sky more firm to come on tonight.
So, I'm gonna dive into the rookie wide receivers here, but
I do, I guess we're gonna have a show tomorrow with with Davis
Matic. Matthew Friedman, and Anthony
Miko on NBC. We're doing a podcast on the
rookie wide receiver class. So the answer is no to this
question that I do. I care about the perks for tea
time. I really don't think it's fine
to 25, but we're going to die. To be wide receivers there.
If you want to talk Rick Wise rookie wide receivers are happy
to do it but you know we weren't I love to get on that.
Listen II. Love to play both sides of this
fence. I love to play that everybody is
trying to be an NFL scout and I love to shit on them.
Right. Shit, post on Twitter and like
make fun of everybody. That's doing the NFL scouting
thing, but I also love to get my hands in the dirt like I watch.
I literally on Saturdays. My wife probably hates me during
football season likes. Saturdays and Sundays.
I sit on the couch, and I watch college football all day.
And then I watch NFL all day on. I don't know how you get away
with that, man. My Saturday's wide open.
She's assuming she's literally a think.
I have to dedicate like a little, like, a couple of
weekends to wear, like away from it.
I don't know how she does it. I don't know how.
I don't know how I'm still married, I'll be totally honest.
But I mean, I'm gonna play on Sundays, but I did this Sunday
on college football a couple games, but like now, I watch a
ton like a ton of college football and so I have my takes
to write, I have my takes about trailing Birds.
I have my takes about all of these guys, because I've watched
a lot of college football, same thing, like I grind.
College football, DFS, and so that just naturally makes, you
know, you walk in. You watch, you want to get some
action on Wednesdays, or Tuesdays or Thursdays, you want
to watch the math games, right? Like so, you just watch all of
those games and so I I have all of my takes to it's just
weighing that right between what really matters for like fantasy
football and specifically best ball right?
Where I'm focused and where will draft later is like we can get
our hands in the dirt as much as we want as in as a guitar Scout
takes and stuff. But like at the end of the day,
most of our takes don't really matter and so it's like, it's
this constant. But what is your take on Burks?
You think he's good? Yeah, he's good.
I don't have any, I don't have any Don't have any doubts that
he's good. Exactly how the dogs think he's
good to at exactly how good he'll be.
Like in the NFL, it's tough for me, I actually would, I'm
interested. I'm thinking because price, they
are going absolutely ape shit, right next to me.
But so, so, college football is so different than the NFL game.
And when you have, when you're Arkansas and you have a dude,
like Trail on, part two is very clearly, one of the better wide
receivers in the game and your life outclassed on offense.
I struggle with weighing that like, they're just getting him
the football. Yes, he's good.
You know what I mean? Yeah, you versus Ohio State
Jameson Williams. Jim, someone who's my favorite
wide receiver in this in this class and he left Ohio State
because he couldn't get on the field, his right his first year.
You know what I mean? What?
So, you have the olave Wilson, right?
Jsn next year. Like, balancing, all of that is
the thing that I struggle with not like having takes on.
Is this guy good or not? Because I listen to people.
You and other people and obviously have my own takes but
that Balancing Act. How do you guys like, like
handle that? You know, I think that's one of
the biggest things in trying to figure out what these wide
receivers if they're good. Yeah, it's that teammate
adjustment or it's kind of like, the bad team adjustment.
I think, one of the things that I look at a lot is is yards per
outrun, and apologies for my glitchy video right now, but I
think with, you know, Garrett Wilson, for example, doesn't
have the doesn't have the production, we like love, you
know, he kind of checks all the boxes boxes production wise, but
it's not off the charts, but just incredible efficiency and
that's something that you saw a t Higgins.
That's something you saw with Jill and waddle.
I think it's something that's like, becoming a bigger part of
the evaluation process because you are seeing kind of these
clusters of wide receivers, they're all the same school and
you do have to figure out like, you know, like Higgins wasn't
not getting on the field because he wasn't good.
You know what I mean? T Higgins, write in a different
school would have had massive market share T Higgins when he
was on the field was absolutely incredible hyper efficient but
like comes and didn't really need him to be that guy so I
thought well why don't waddle waddle is another example why
don't we as the fourth best wide receiver on Alabama at what as a
freshman and you know if you compare him to a kid who went
you know Sky I'm not comparing him to Skype.
More but Sky more is naturally going to break out earlier
because he's right out of school that you know doesn't have
Devonte Smith and Henry rugs and Jerry Judy on.
Right. Exactly and and jail Waddles
yards for out run off the charts.
Like when he was on the field as a freshman credible, he also
dealt with an injury in his final season.
So here's a short and final season where you know his career
would have looked much stronger production-wise.
Had he not had he was playing very well in his final season.
So Yeah, I think General models is an awesome example.
I think with Burke's my read on Burke's is that like you want to
talk about the efficiency. His yards per outrun was three
times higher than the teammate average at Arkansas.
So it's not like he was you know, just kind of getting fed
targets and doing pretty good but not great.
You know, he was just off the cheese yards after catch were
off the charts, you know, he was just dominant, he Is just truly
dominant. And I don't think, you know, I
think that I think that'll translate you do see, he was
used out of the slot, mostly he was.
He did get a lot of his. He had 20% of his yards coming
on screens, which is the same rate, is nikhil Harry and the
viscous, you know, it was also incredibly efficient in yards
per outrun. So you do have that, you know,
that's not necessarily going to guarantee anything that the guy
was efficient, but Burks also had a deeper a DOT than
Chenault. I don't think he's going to be,
you know, quite as relying on, like skiing stuff.
But it's definitely concerned. I think that's the kind of the
the key thing to parse right now.
So, your your question Eric about like how to balance some
of those, like, film takes and things.
You were saying, I think I would say for me at like as an analyst
over the course of the years that I've done this, I think
I've always been someone who's tried to pay a lot of attention
to To like additional context and layers of information.
But the the further along that I get and the more years that I do
this, the more that I'm certain that there's no
one-size-fits-all for anything. And I think everyone that I see
who starts out in fantasy wants to find a stat.
I wanted to do this when I was starting out wants to find a
stat or some type of analysis that's going to solve every like
every every question. And I think the biggest thing
that my answer to like York, The biggest thing that I like try to
drive home and I think about all the time is like, like it's
every like, I don't try to balance it.
I throw all of that in the pot. Like if it's, you know, just one
more little thing. I'm throwing it in the pot, if
there's, you know, I don't think injuries are that significant,
but, and I try really hard not to be biased on certain stuff.
But like, if a dude, like legit, looks like he has a serious
injury problems constantly getting hurt and they're like
the types of recurring injuries, that then it's like, okay, well
I'm gonna throw this in the pot. This is one more risk factor for
this person. Obviously, I'm gonna be way more
on the production side but like, like Pat was just saying in the
chat doesn't really care about 40 unless it's like super bad.
Like if a guy was really productive but then all the
sudden he's like an outlier bad athletically.
Like that's going to be a problem probably.
Like we're gonna have to throw it in the pot.
Like maybe this dead guy just can't play at the next level,
from a physical standpoint. But even if it's something that
I don't care about like I'm going to check it and make sure
that I don't care about it, it's not like a huge A or there's
something significant in respect to that guy.
So I just yeah I mean I more and more point.
I was trying to Broad point of trying to make us like the more
and more. I do things in this industry in
the more and more guys that I see different profiles hit or
not hit. I mean a lot of it, you know, is
a variance in there, some luck to it, but for me a lot of it is
just like you you got to recommence, every player is
independent. And like the thing that's going
to be the device, like the the specific thing that drives home
whether that guy works or not. I mean, like the big thing right
now is who's the next Debo? Well, like we nobody wanted to
Envision Depot 2021. Last offseason.
Everyone was saying he can't get any down field work.
He doesn't have the right type of usage.
You know, we talked a lot on here.
Pat, you have that awesome stat last year about how he had was
one of the few receivers to have 2.0 or better yards per hour on
his first two seasons. We talked to them, chasing him,
several times, we took him everywhere and we weren't really
trying to predict his usage or basically, just like this guy's
too good to visualize good. Instead he is yeah especially
when you cost adjustment, you're like this guy's just too good to
go where he is. I don't know that.
We are necessarily predicting anything close to what he did or
getting those are yards or whatever and now it's like I
have no idea how he's going to do it.
Right, you know, and now it's like who's the next Debo?
And it's like well we didn't we didn't see the last Evo coming
and what Depot just did is something like we've never
really seen. You know what I mean?
Like, people want to compare to Percy Harvin.
I don't even think it's that similar, Percy, Harvin Percy,
Harvin is different. Anyway it's a every every player
is more similar to like Christian McCaffrey than Percy
Harvin. You know what I mean?
Like, might be? Yeah, I think so.
I think two things that from what you said, then the first is
the Debo thing is so perfect. Because, and it aligned with
everything that you were saying, where people just want to have
something to work off of, right? Give me something that has
happened that I can latch onto and say, this is the reason why
This guy is good or this is the comp, right?
The Debo thing is, like, I need a cop for this player like and
there was no Comfort Depot, right?
He was this weird archetype of a player that we have basically
never seen before. Christian McCaffrey is the same
way and there's there's tons of them, right?
I mean Calvin. There was no cop for Calvin.
Johnson you there's no time for anybody.
There isn't. There's no color for anyone.
She was constant even when there are good ones.
This is the other in sorry to cut off your pointer but the not
your thing that I always think about with comps.
Or have learned this is like part of this point at sizing so,
well, the ones that are similar whether they hit or fail is like
sort of hard to tell why. And like, I think one of the
examples, I would use is like Keenan Allen, not not very
athletic, great production profile but not very athletic.
Not particularly huge doesn't do a ton after the catch low a DOT
does, it does it rack up are yards?
Why is that kind of Link receiver?
Well I mean I think you can actually say it statistically
Because it's targets per outrun, his soul, he's just that good of
a rocket. So like he, he give that
Trucking open, he knows how to get open good at running routes.
He's a top three guy running routes and so that's his trump
card. But most guys that you would
comp to Keenan, Allen are probably not good bets, you
know? I mean other than the fact that
he had the massive production profile which was part of how
good. But that's how it with.
That's the other thing is that? Yeah, if I'm copying a guy to
Keenan Allen, it's because he came out early, he's probably
he's like a day to pick type, he was very productive.
Active. He's like roughly the same build
and he has a chance of kind of being a guy who plays in the
slot and on the outside. He's like sort of like versatile
in that way. That's like how I would come
someone to Keenan Allen. It wouldn't be because he was a
great route, Runner necessarily. So there's also like a real comp
but the real comp is the route running like from a true on the
field right up? It's the route running, but he
might be unique in that regard, but we can't yet, right?
But we also can't truly like actually make that comp, you
know what I mean? That's too difficult of a comp
to make great, all the context of college football.
We don't have data for that. Yeah, there's no way for us to
it's exactly. That would be just someone
saying like, and this is all subjective.
Right? There's a scout that says this
guy runs routes like Keenan Allen and like maybe he's right,
but how do we actually know that?
We don't, we don't know. But the comp is the route
running and get and getting open.
A production is, of course, something that maybe isn't
indicator but it's just an example.
I love how difficult that whole process is.
So I was just going to say Metcalf is a dude that I think a
lot of people think hit just because he's such a good
athlete. Essentially is production
profile wasn't really incredible and college obviously played
with AJ Brown played with AJ Brown.
There's a huge part of it, right?
Also had a mattock recently that brought up and so, my point is
like, even they were like similar guys, right?
Its prospects Pat, you would know better than me, but like,
they're both really good athletes and maybe back.
D, GB. Wasn't quite, I think, I think,
I think that cap is a stronger Prospect.
Yeah, I'm gonna be had like off the field stuff, right?
But so that's the point I'm trying to make is like it can be
off the field stuff, even that makes him feel right like even
within that comp even if there is a comp, I don't know if it
comes to useful because I think for almost every type of player,
there's like guys that have hit and guys that have failed and
there's a sliding scale. And it's like, yeah, what part
of this massive group of this potpourri of things that were
throwing in? What was the, the one that made
this guy hit her maid? So I not hit, I have an article
coming out, part 1 on campeon, calm tomorrow comping every
Prospect and I've caught them, comping all the.
I'm copying the prospects to like five or six different.
Ain't wide receivers that because I yeah, because I think
it's useful in that way and I think people want them.
And when I'm thinking about them, I'm like, I'm like, how
does George Pickens fail as like?
Well what if he's Justin Hunter, what if he's a really skinny?
Boom, down Fields, guy who, you know, isn't actually that fast?
You run a 447. I know he's coming off an ACL
tear, maybe he's much faster than that, but you know that's
another red flag, right? You got a whole That there's
more there obviously didn't do much, I didn't even run very
many routes this season, so I'm basically throwing that out, but
there's like, there's questions. So it's like, well, who has
failed, that looks like this guy who has succeeded.
It looks like this guy kind of looks like Terrace Marshall, it
kind of looks like Sidney Rice Sona, which is kind of a medium
comp kind of, looks a little, like CD lamb and some ways.
So I kind of throw out a bunch of guys as hell.
Yeah, that's a great way of doing it.
I love Casey's comment, he says. So basically this guy Morris,
Turek Shepherd, got it, which I mean, it's just funny.
Me in its own, right? But also, my question would be
is that meant to be a positive, or A negative.
Yeah, exactly. That's what Sterling Shepherd, a
hit or did he just get hurt a lot like he's had some positive
traits, you know, I think Sterling shepherds good.
I think they're like Shepherd's pretty guests, only shepherds
good outcome people. Compare people to Davante Adams
and it's like which part of his career, the part where like
people gave up on him and Dynasty and made fun of people
for drafting him where the part where you said of keeps round
kick. Yeah.
In redraft he was Like a 17th 19th round pick by your three.
He was undrafted in tons of leagues and that's when, yeah,
your three. He was.
Yeah, your three, everyone thought he was the worst player
in the NFL. Tyler boys put in her.
I think I comps Sky Beyond one of the sky.
More cops. I used Tyler, boy, Tyler Boyd
was left for dead after a second year.
So yeah, it's Sean, would Sean seagulls.
The only guy drafting him. Yes, both of those atoms.
And Yeah, it's unbelievable. There's a bunch of questions
here about like locket and stuff.
Let me get your guys thoughts on this unless you have any more
Prospect take like, actually Eric, do you have any guys that
jumped out to you? I didn't get any of your, give
me, give me those jokes. So I was going to bring up a guy
who I was originally on that. I'm now like really backing off
which is frustrating, but it was a running back and it was Chiron
Williams. I was pretty D, excited for new
ideas. I was really excited for Chiron
Williams. The production is definitely
there and then the way that the, the archetype of production is
really like a lot more of what I like to look at and of
particularly at running back, right?
So we talked about in fantasy all the time, like is he gonna
play past Downs? Right.
We did the Antonio Gibson thing last year, right?
How many times did we talk about Antonio, Gibson, really?
He just needs to get on the field on passing Downs, right?
He needs to play Third Down needs to steal from JD
mckissick. Well, how do you do that?
You're A good receiver which Gibson had?
And be they trust you in pass protection, right?
That's the thing that famous people always Overlook is like,
Joe, mix it. Why did Joe Mixon ever since Joe
Mixon, still doesn't always get on the field on third Downs,
why? Because he's not a good pass
protector and we can say that, that doesn't matter as much like
we can tweet about it and tilt about it as much as we want but
NFL teams care about it. And so I like to look at that
kind of thing and Chiron Williams for as small as he for
a small and unathletic as he is is a bad.
Das protector like he's really, he's really good at it and he's
an excellent receiver, like he's very good in the passing game
and so like all the production and those skills were a thing
that I was like, holy shit. Like, if this dude lands in the
right spot, we're getting a guy that has every skill that we're
looking for, in fantasy to give us some upside in the late round
pick. And then he goes to the freaking
freaking combine and runs, like, I would out there.
Yeah, it has Jumps and jumps like I would and it's a great
example of like all those things you said matter.
But maybe is that lettuce is MM, is just not there, you know?
Maybe that's the defining trait. It's hard sucks because I was I
was I was excited for him and I'm much less.
I was actually hitting him a lot and super early Underdog drafts
and I've really backed off and we'll see, I mean, we'll see if
he gets early draft capital and some team says that they don't
care, then it's different. But right now, I am kind of
backing off the other guy. I mentioned Jameson Williams
that that's my guy. I think of Jameson Williams
didn't tear his ACL. This wide receiver class will be
viewed a little bit differently. I think the Ohio State thing is
being held against him a little bit when he was behind a bunch
of other first-round picks, and he was the youngest of them all.
And sometimes that's just how it goes in college, right?
Justin Fields transferred Joe burrow transferred it happens.
That's just what happens. And I think that's being held.
A little bit. And then he went to Alabama
equally as strong, probably stronger program, definitely
stronger competition, and was obviously not Devonte Smith but
he was basically their version of Devonte Smith this year and
from an athleticism standpoint he's a little small, right?
I think he was 179 at the coastline but I 179.
Yeah, I personally don't really care about that.
Like dude, I could put on five pounds while we're on the show,
if I really wanted to like that, if he really wants to gain some
weight like its Not that big of a deal and so I'm not really
that worried about the modulates, the way we want them
to just listen, please don't, please don't try to shit on my
point. If you would like if you would
like, for me to prove it to you that I can, we believe you, we
just don't know that, it'll help you play football, definitely?
It definitely won't. I mean, I couldn't play if I
can't even side. So little Side Story, I like
sprained. My ankle and hurt my back.
Walking my dog, the other day, that tells you about how broken
down my body from from, from all my years.
But anyway, Jameson Williams is the guy that I think some of
those things that we might hold against like a, like, like if
Sky more. If it happened to Sky more, we
would hold that against him. But we're holding it against
Jameson Williams. When all he did was the best
program in the country was like Ohio, State doesn't want him?
Yeah, I'll take them and then all he did was absolutely light.
It up the SEC and then just, I love the 80s 80s work.
I love that point because you have to, you have to assume the
ha State coaches were rational to make, you know, we always
talk about like, the Assumption of rational coaching and
everything and even at the NFL level, right?
Are they, are they smart player? I guess like, yeah, like, if a
guy's good enough, he should work his way onto the field.
But this is a situation where there are four really good
receivers that we're talking about.
So someone's going to be the odd man out and like, where they
going to make the right decision.
I don't know, you'd have to assume that they would to assume
that that matters the Counterpoint.
It is what you just said. Nick Saban said, wait, he's
available. We're going to bring him in and
we're going to make him a star in our key immediately.
So there's kind of a pretty quick counter balance there and
I actually trust Nick Saban more like, yeah?
Right? Yeah.
Well, Nick Saban was like, pumped that this dude was
available. Got him to transfer and then
played him. I'm gonna Sue, Ya made a
mistake. I think it's a minor red flag
because I mean, it's not like they didn't have awesome
production from the wide receiver position this past year
as well. And Jake go who is a year
younger than then Williams and then Wilson's.
The, in the same College here, a lot of, obviously, a year ahead.
But it's not like ideal that he had to transfer to get on the
field but it's also not a huge deal to me.
I mean, growth isn't in here though either?
Yeah I mean like we talked about that in the NFL to wear like he
was 18 or 19 or whatever like sometimes that should happen you
know and right and Right. And then he has an incredible
year for Alabama and a nice big sample to that's.
That's one thing I like about them is that we got 15 games.
So even though that's the only season they did anything, it's a
pretty long College season me. Like some of the college seasons
are looking are like eight or nine games.
So you get you got almost two years out of them and that one
year in a sense you know you got a big sample in that one year so
that's good. I don't that the ACL thing man
just from like the way I know these Dynasty markets work It
does scare me because. Okay, so like how does this
actually play out? Like when does he get on the
field and then is he good? You know, like we just saw
George Pickens, he gets on the field, his ACL tear was in
March, so three months later, but, you know, key basic, I
think he ran like a total of 32 routes in all of 2021.
Like, he just got him out there to show that he was healthy
enough to, to declare for the draft.
Basically. So, you know, if we get It's
like 45 games from a healthy Williams and maybe I don't know,
maybe he's not even fully healthy.
He's a he won't be a year removed from his ACL tear by the
time he plays. So right is this the time to
draft him or you do you wait until the discounts role in next
year? Yeah, that's probably right.
You know, that's yeah better than anyone.
That's why I was actually I'm happy.
You brought that up because I was literally earlier today
looking at my longest running like Dynasty team which I've
turned into a monster somehow largely listening to you Pat and
I have a multiple first-round picks and I'm like trying to
think Jameson as I've obviously communicated is one of my guys
and like figuring out how to appropriately value him is like
a big deal because I want him. But like, you know how You value
him from, from that sense and then just might take from, from
a best ball perspective. I'm just going to toss this and
I care a little bit less, maybe that sounds silly, but we just
did the comp thing and I'm about to comp him to someone.
But like, when you draft a guy super late, It does.
I'm not saying it doesn't matter what he does to start the year.
Well you're betting on him to win you a basketball tournament,
right? Where come on, Rusty.
Brown didn't provide you shit for like, 10 weeks, at least,
but he was the rookie that ascended.
Now, the Jameson Williams Ascension would be different
right here. It would be like we need to get
you healthy and get you acclimated but he's a better
football player than a Munroe. Seen say brown are sure your
kind of betting on the same thing.
Like let's get acclimated and then like dude it's wheels up
week. A tour week 10 or whatever.
Maybe he maybe he you know, spikes a couple times before
then but you know, in the playoffs.
It's like he's back. Ready to roll.
Yeah. And the guys, it's the in
Dynasty dress. Where's he going in the first
round in like early ATP? He looks like he's like a late
first, right? I haven't, I haven't even dug
into the dynasty, a DPI, I know that.
I think Matthew Freeman had him as his number one wide receiver
or what. I'm not sure.
I'll talk tomorrow. But I people like people really
like him and I get it like, in all the stuff I'm looking at, he
basically grades, as high as everybody.
I mean, the I think the if he was healthy, I think there would
be to me a clear top three of Berks Wilson and Williams.
And then I kind of have Drake London like a tick behind those
guys. But then with, with the ACL
tear, I have London ahead of Williams but I still have
Williams as my wide receiver for in the class, even with that
risk. And he's a pretty strong
profile. I mean I think that that's
basically what I was going to say is like I think the markets
sort of adjusting correctly unless people still have him
one. But like to your question about
like is now the time to get him or later like you just don't
take him over the guys that have similar profiles that could
potentially produce from week one, right?
And then Once those guys are off the board and your rookie draft
in the later first or whatever, yeah you can definitely take
Jameson Williams and it's more of a long-term.
You know, your understanding that you're probably not going
to get a value increase in year 1, right?
And so like, there's still a fair value for them.
And it's probably in that range because of the fact that he has
an ACL tear, like it doesn't actually seem that complicated,
I guess. Yeah, that's fair.
Where are you at on Sky? More?
Are, are you in? I'm in Middle.
I like to just joke in shit on every guy that you guys talked
about and hype up - yeah, that's my new 2022.
B is, I'm not buying into the guys that, you know, when you
guys are rolling the clip on a guy, that's going to be the guy
that I'm gonna, like, make fun of on Twitter.
I've pivoted to that instead of like buying in on it, even
though I'm still gonna draft him but I'm like in the middle, in
the middle on Sky more, I have a little bit of concern on him
just because of kind of The way that he has won over the course
of his career, if that makes sense, which is both a good
thing kind of in a bad thing. I mean, getting open off the
line of scrimmage which is like one of his one of his strongest
rates is like a big deal like that.
Yeah. The thing like you have to be
able to get off the line of scrimmage like putting my true
hand in the dirt like a whe when I was in college we played
Pressman like we played Pressman coverage like your entire like
that's how we dictated the defense was by.
Growing up timing and and getting in the wide receivers,
you know, hips and everything. And so when you have a dude that
just you can't touch at the line of scrimmage, that's a wildly
important trait. However, it doesn't really win
in a lot of other ways which is also like a little bit of a red
flag in in a small conference like coming from.
Like they don't they don't play any defense you know, where it
comes from. So I'm like, kind of kind of in
the middle. I totally see the case for him.
So he's one of the ones where One of the million guys like in
fantasy football where I'm like I totally see the case for him.
I totally see the case against him.
I'm not going to make any crazy hard stand against this guy you
know like there are guys where I'm absolutely willing to take a
hard stand against and there's guys who I'm gonna take, you
know, an overweight position to. But he's just kind of the guy
where I'm not I'm not fading this dude but I'm not going to
go super crazy either that make sense.
Where are you? I don't drink London.
He's kind of a guy. I feel like hard the way they
lie. He's a really hard, really hard.
I think. Yeah.
I saw 11 Dwayne McFarland from PFF.
I liked I liked to follow him. You always give some really
good. Insights, he talked about
basically London's like inability to win against single
man other than like jump balls other than other than jump
balls, which I mean, don't get me wrong.
That's a big aspect of the NFL game.
So it's like, sometimes we hold that against guys to write like
Davante Adams obviously is the example.
People always jump to on a ton of different things but He wins
by getting open, but he also wins by he's when he's not open,
right? He just like if you're not open
and you can make plays it Jamar. Chase does that too much?
Chase gets open, of course. But like yo, bro, just throws
him the ball and he goes and gets it.
That's actually one of the most valuable skill sets you can
have. And London has that like in
Spades, it's his best skill set, but you do have to win in other
ways, right? Like if he could do what sky
more could do at the line of scrimmage.
And and from the speed perspective, like I mean, you
have like, truly, truly Elite Prospect, but he can't do that.
So, that's the thing that I struggle with is like how to
balance these. Like, very clear flaws that
someone like London has with the thing that he can do, like
literally right now, Drake London could go catch.
Jump balls in the NFL as good as literally like basically as good
as anybody and that's my struggle of.
How do you weigh those those things?
Trickle out, says Vincent Jackson was never opened.
The, it's one of those. One of those weird things where
Drake, London, Wing nine more pounds of the combine than he
was listed made me like him a lot more because he's 219.
And now I'm like these huge. Okay.
If you're if you're 219 you know Josh Gordon was 225 when he came
in. Like now I can start to see that
side of it where like Vincent Jackson was 241 or something.
So that's how he's never. He's not Vincent Jackson unless
he's just gonna you know, have about five nights like you're
about to have Eric you know it is March Madness.
I'm going to be on my way. Couch watching a lot of
basketball. Pizza.
Mike Evans was 2:30. So you know, like I don't see,
you know. Anyway, I think with 1/2 x
that's still a little concerning.
I think he's 231 even it's like a little, like the jump ball
stuff. You know, he's like that.
He had the same number of contested catches is nikhil
Harry in their final years. You know.
You do start to worry about, like does this guy have a
translatable skill set? He's not a See that athletic.
I would really like to see his time.
I think he's going to work out because 40 days in April.
So I think we're going to get time or at least jumps on him
and that that would make me feel better.
Well, he's gonna jump. Have you seen as he played
basketball? He was this.
Yeah, he's a basketball guy. Yes.
Like like it wasn't a certainty that he was going to be a
football player. He just ended up that high
school. He had 540, I've never seen a
540. Okay.
So your reasons comes to be fine.
He's a freak, he's a total freak.
It's just straight line speed. And probably agility.
It's that it's not like you're raw athleticism Outburst.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Drake London, 540 dunk for some reason.
Seen it high school dunk contest.
Ridiculous. The cool thing about over.
See if one of you guys wants to pull it up we can we can show
it. I like that.
I love that only we're a half-hour in and it's already
somebody saying, let's do monetize and you also Of you.
We were way ahead of you. I'm pulling it up.
I don't even see that some are already doing it.
You haven't seen his? No.
No, I've seen a dog. I didn't see it.
I didn't see Sam's comment. My internet feels like it's
being slow to. So if it if a craps out, we'll
just blame Pete for not being here to hold our hands while we
wait for that. How's the mood in Washington
right now? What?
Gretchen almost killed. You once.
Oh, it's not good. I would say my my answer to that
would be listened to stealing bananas if you want my full
today because we did an entire episode on it.
This morning I had some thoughts on when Sauron like all the QB
movements on on Ross, he's talking about Washington State.
Oh yeah, Russ leaving sorry. Sorry yeah.
So yeah no it's not great. It's not great up here.
Oh we got this up. All right, you guys ready for
this? Actually I vaguely do you guys
remember there was like a video of Davante Adams dunking and I
think it was like while he was kind of sucking and it gave me
hope you gave me hope for Davante Adams and here we are.
So the dogs dunks are yeah, dude.
He's drunk. One is going to be good.
I've decided I'm off that clip off that clip, that was it off
that clip, that clip is the trump card.
There's you gotta throw everything in and the five. 40
Gunk is the is the trump card, we're thankful.
Yeah, then did say, he'll take anything and that's something
that's definitely something. All right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
get us going on a draft here in a few minutes.
Do it chat, can I get to my get you guys steaks?
I know Ben you already talked about about Pat what about your
takes on the QB movement or Rogers, lack of movement.
The Rogers one, I think the only Fallout is Aaron Joe.
Jones who was going like away late.
I was I was drafting Jones. Pretty regularly I even got him
in a final draft I think in the fourth round still of one of
these slow drafts happen to be on the clock.
So that's to me I'm like, you know, I imagine that discount
will evaporate very quickly he already has and then I think I
do Dylan's more interesting but I don't know.
I mean I don't mvs we don't know if he's going to be back Lazard.
I don't think you look. I don't think impious I'll be
back. Yeah, so so there's nothing.
I mean Davante Adams wasn't it a huge discount so there's really
no impact and then the Denver guys were maybe like slightly
Juiced for the for the for the Green Bay thing but net and how
their prices are going to come up more.
So yeah, I think to me I kind of want on the Denver guy.
Guys, I want Judy first, but if there's like a two-round
discount, I'll take something they're happily.
I think Alberto will probably be too expensive at some point, but
I think he'll be a value for the time being until until we ruin
it. We're done and we're going to
play gonna ruin it. We're gonna ruin it so bad.
Wait for that will be a seventh round pick by August.
So I'd say Williams. I think has a shot to be like
the So I think I think taking him like, I guess my, my take on
the Denver stuff was like by now because it's only going to get
more expensive like even though it feels like well, which one
you going? Got good deals right after the
off the end of the season. Buying for had the Tweet where
he would take Javonte 102. What?
But, which running backs. Would you take over him right
now? I mean, I don't know that there
are men like Jason seems to see. That's it, that's it.
That's it Swift. He's my one.
I made him my 10. No I'm not taking any of the
25-foot biography 7. Your RV.
Not doing it rb3. Yeah Cooper cup goes ahead but
yeah I would say Chase ahead of them and teach Devon was just in
Jeopardy. On personal question, question
becomes the wide receivers for like the on the running?
No running. Not the 25 26 27 year, olds the
Derrick, Henry. Dalvin cook Alvin Chimera group
obviously Camaros got other stuff going on, but Like I don't
think I'm taking those dudes over a second-year back that has
what Williams might have ahead of him.
No, I do like Dalvin cook. But at the same time I mean the
the ceiling is higher for Javonte.
I think just like the pur ceiling but Melvin Gordon could
be back. So na zhi.
I'm taking Javonte over nausea, dude.
Same, I already am. I was like, we did a spaces and
I was like concocting. This this this offseason where
the Steelers get. Like Mariota is a bridge
quarterback and then they dropped Malik, Willis and Melvin
Gordon leaves. A free agency is like now are
you guys taking Javonte over Harris's?
Meanwhile, I'm sitting back. Like I think I already a.m.
I just want. I just want you guys to see it.
Yeah, if I missed anyone going to make the magic case because I
don't want to know, I'm not making the volume case over the
superstar in a superstar offense, but Javonte.
So the difference actually really He is is not even just
like, honestly comparing too much about them.
What javante is to me now that we 100% know that Russ is there
is like I've stolen this this from been now for a year or
whatever. But small loss Big Win even like
as a first-round player. How do you someone explain to
me? That I'm sorry.
I stole that from Shawn literally.
If you guys seriously, if Melvin Gordon comes back, how do you
truly like Really lose on Javonte.
You'll let you like you might lose a little bit but like he
also could just be JT of two years ago.
He's mouth Sanders. It's right.
It just takes their just takes it.
I love that point. He's up.
He's a small loss. Exactly.
Right. And here's my swing, every mile
Sanders, he could be miles Sanders, you lose the Vista
Sanders. No.
You see could good of a nonsense to be miles?
He's not my, he's while Sanders has been an efficient rusher.
Most centers has been a very efficient rusher.
Yeah. But he's what how does he have
them 0 touchdown outcome the offense matters.
Yeah he doesn't have his but I don't I'm not predicting that.
I mean come on you know I'm gonna that's how we build a lot.
Yeah I agree from two years ago as well.
I mean two years ago he was a he was a basically a bust and he As
yet going in the 109, 110 range. That's, yeah, that's more.
What I mean. But why was he a bus like?
He didn't catch enough passes right?
He didn't catch. No passes.
Yeah, and touchdown walkways. And some I think was a really
good and he got banged up some he got banged up enough, it was
really annoying, that's the running offense struggled, I
mean the offense could struggle God, I hate making this case
because Russell's gonna smash but it could make him he's
possibly struggling your one here.
One new offense. Russ, doesn't look the same
since mid 2020s. I'm really hard to, I think
about this gonna Crush. I want you to start freezing.
I'm hoping your scratch. I mean, you're and you're even
you're making me that this case that's hard to make that he's
like a medium lost but he's not a big loss.
You know what I mean? Because I don't think he's
actually my gender. I quite like it like a
disappointment as Mi Sanders was because I think 20 20 miles
Sanders is in the range of outcomes.
It has tidal. I want to get catches all right.
Well then you should be drafting Running backs much much more
often than we are. If, you know, we should be
drafting devant Javonte Williams.
Yeah, is gonna have more than twenty eight catches.
He's gonna have more scoring opportunities and Sanders had in
the Eagles 2020 offense. At least a a little bit more.
Right? You think is we don't know that
Melvin Gordon's gone. Okay.
Well as snowboards back, it's a different discussion.
But I thought when I saw it I still think especially now he's
not, he's not like the 103 right now or the or the 105 or
whatever, right? He's a end of the first round,
will get into the superflex guy like him there.
He's quite cheap in superflex because literally the first like
eight Pixar quarterbacks and every draft I just don't, I
still struggle. Even if Melvin comes back, I
still struggled, right? Marlon, Mac came back for the
goldmans different. I know it's different, but they
also had an IM Hans. They had two guys, Mac was
coming off an Achilles tear. Melvin Gordon was good last
year, I mean, I know, but I just struggled to see and that is an
absolute big - I just struggled to see the big loss.
In no matter what the situation, the big loss there is a loss,
absolutely in the range, like he's probably a medium.
I've just already decided mentally that Melvin Gordon's
coming back, but I had also decided mentally, the Seahawks
were not trading vessel walls, and so take that for what you
will. I'll just, yeah.
I don't, I don't think Melvin Gordon will be back because this
this tray kind of changes the calculation like it does.
If you wants any kind of money, he can't go back.
If 20-foot 24 million total left or something.
I think I saw that on Twitter, they have like 24 million and
they need some upgrades elsewhere, they can't be
spending multiple millions of dollars on on.
I mean, I guess they can but I think it would be unwise it
would. And, and people love to, we
talked about this in, not in the spike week Discord, where people
are like, well, Melvin said he wants to come back and they said
they want Melvin back. It's like, well, I mean, yes in
a totally ideal scenario, but everybody loves to spend other
people's money or or they tell other people to take less money.
It's like this might be the end for Melvin Gordon like
money-wise, so you're going to tell him.
I like I'm in John dollars less, I'm shocked.
It's not already the end. He's so clearly at the tail end,
like I can't believe that you let someone do it again, but
someone's gonna give him money. He steals your stomach dude.
Melvin Gordon's good at football like that props.
I thought he was dust to and I was like, this whole year, I was
like, 'hey, this guy hasn't played with a whole lot of 16
games Seasons either. And He stayed pretty dang
healthy this year to. He's not one game.
He's not bad, but I think he's got left in the tank than, like
James Conner or something. Yeah, James Connors, like, four
years younger. Not for, but at least to Melvin
Gordon's like 29 James Connors like, 26 27, right?
So this is it, I wouldn't be paying him a goddamn dime, I'm
sorry, I'm sorry, Melvin, you're still very good, you're worth
nothing to me. I'm so, but that's why you
should take this. Is it?
This is the end of If he if someone offers him twenty
million dollars or whatever. And that's Exaggeration, know
what I mean, but you know what I mean, right?
If somebody could get 250 for 15 mil, maybe two years 15 million,
but Denver cannot give him they can't get right.
Doug makes a good point or an interesting point.
Here says, this is the time of the year, you draft Javonte as
rb3 and the Broncos recent Gordon to F your team, all up,
the way that I would be. This is actually the sort of the
exact opposite. This is the time of year where
because Javonte might be a consensus rb3.
If jet says, it's actually the opposite situation, this is a
time of year, you You can draft Javonte as rb7 for a long time
and then later in the summer he is rb3 and all right.
Your team have him as the one pain, you know.
I would love to. Yeah.
Gordon's priced in drafts. I would love to be loading up a
Javonte in the back. Half Gordon's Christ in you or
the risk of Gordon as per the risk is Gordon friend.
And I also want to know, we're gonna know soon, I would be as a
guy who'd like to draft Advantage because I think he's
really good is, you know? Do I want Melvin Gordon to
Reese? I because moment Gordon a fall
man for the job. He's not coming for the job.
Let's get real like Melvin Gordon is going to be a 1 B
whose slides into the background over the course of the season
but gets displaced. He's going to be like a Jordan
Howard type to continue my Mi Sanders comp you know he's going
to eventually get out of the way.
Where is like what if they don't re-sign Melvin Gordon and they
draft for shot. White shroud, white looks pretty
interesting. He's got a pass catching stuff.
I got my Different from Javonte Williams, my goons of power
back. So that would suck.
You really do not want them to get a guy who's also really
good. You know what I mean?
Melvin Gordon is not good really good this year, the, the, if
they, so I don't think they would take a shot of it.
That would not be good, but I would hope they wouldn't do
something like that. I mean, maybe if they lose
people and they think they need another back, but the way that I
would look at it with Gordon coming back is just there is
risk. Because like what we saw last
year like Gordon Lewis was playing well enough that he
didn't really slide away. He wasn't playing bad, I was
hoping for me play bad as right about the singles, every week,
like this is annoying. Shit, I've Javonte that every
team, I can't really say that they should be playing Javonte a
ton more. If you have to confident backs,
I've always said, you'd probably use them both, that's a smart.
Real football thing to do, keep them fresh whatever, you know,
and Gordon was playing competently.
And so the risk for me, if he comes back, it's just that he
plays well enough again to not slide away.
Or even then, if you want to have some struggles, right?
Then you start to get some 60 40 games, Melvin's favorite
Melvin's playing well to like that, that would be in the range
of outcomes. I would not expect that the
whole season but it would be in the range of outcomes for a few
weeks and that would obviously impact you want his full season
line. Yeah, yeah, that's interesting.
If I had a team I think I would think if I had if I was in
charge of the Browns I think I've just have Nick Chubb in
there and like every snap and then if he got banged up, I'd
have cream hunting there for like every snap.
I'm never tipping my hand. You know the guys in a rhythm I
just would I would have like a Workhorse magically know what
drives like one split drives If he if the guy is like if the
guys like saying okay give me a give me a breather sure.
But like outside of that no I would just kind of hand it over
to one guy. Interesting.
I think like I think there's a legit argument for just like
letting guys stay a little bit fresh and have more juice later
in the game. Yeah.
Maybe split drives does make more sense, but I just wouldn't
not. I would not have like a
third-down back. I could help it at all.
I think that's the dumbest girl, that's it.
That's literally that one of the one of the dumbest things, NFL
teams do bringing in James wider, JD mckissick and business
giving up on possessions. It's like it's third and long
and we're not even trying yes I guess God what happened.
So stupid especially when you draft the 40-50 minutes.
Yes, but the Melvin javante thing is just again, I want to
reiterate in my opinion, it is like at worst at this current.
Cost is like medium loss. Huge win like like Mass like he
could be the rb1 win. Yeah like the overall number one
player and famous. Yes.
This could be his breakout season and he goes on to be a
multi-year study and that's what yeah you want me to so good.
And the offense is going to be good.
You'll never, I don't care what Pat says that Russ has washed.
Ha, ha ha. I don't think that for the
record, I'm pretty sure he said that I think maybe you're free.
I said I just Just asking questions.
Why has he looked as good as he did in early 2020?
Why hasn't he looked this good? Okay, I'm just asking questions.
No, but I really do think this is just like we can argue till
the cows come home about like all the different nuances of it
and it's a fascinating like argument.
But like, it really just boils down to like, you can barely
lose on this player. You can, this can be the player
you wish you drafted in 100% of your team's.
So like he doesn't have Have the past catching profile.
I don't think too. Like necessarily had I think
he's got access to kind of the legendary season, but I don't
think it's as easy for him because he's not, he didn't
profile is like a big pass catcher, and he wasn't awesome
as a pass. Catcher last year, it wasn't
bad, but he wasn't off the charts or anything even close to
that. So, I guess you also, yes,
protect. He also be has passed protected
that fast, he's gonna be out there.
Yeah, he can be out there if they choose.
Can we just wait? Can I just draft him a little
bit in the late first round? Can you just hold on what?
I want to know what you guys are doing in these?
Because I have not done any no, I think I'm through the sixth
round in one of them and I am waiting to pick and round 3 and
another so I don't have really many ideas here on time for
work. Can I get my my super super
quick take before before we pick cubies?
So we have gotten totally out of control.
And so in my opinion like how to win this tournament is kind of
leaning into not necessarily like fading all the early Q bees
or going crazy. Like a 0q b type of thing, but
like kind of leaning into that just watch, it's going to be all
cubies before we pick and then it'll be us and we're going to
be like, okay, are we taking jobber 01-06 or are we taking
Jonathan Taylor or Christmas McCaffrey over, right?
And so that it gets you take Tyler.
I feel like I would say Kyle I would take I think Kyler is the
cutoff. Yeah.
I mean persons interesting. I agree with you guys on that
and so like, you're going to see six we're like, wait to all
these go. Then we have to cut it off and
they do we are we tailor of our CM serum where you guys?
I don't know. I don't, I don't have a super
strong, but it's half PBR. We can just do Taylor.
Yeah, just the, when strayed were you at all.
Taylor mean, it could get ugly. No.
They're going to get groveled. They're going to get Jimmy G.
I think it's I think it sounds like oh why do I think it's a
good thing? I mean Jimmy G is not better.
It real life football then went but for Jonathan Taylor he's
better. He's a case manager and when I
think he's better real-life football once his by, but like
by how much a menace 5, very little small, very little.
Yeah, once it leaves the difference between like Kirk
Cousins and Derek Carr. That's yeah I like I think that
Yeah, that's a good take. But so wait till we get back to
our second. Wait till our second round pick
comes and you look at the quarterbacks that are available.
Because they're all still there. Every fantasy relevant like two
or three people on the board. Yeah dude someone someone in our
Discord was like I almost got in just in the last two days.
Multiple people said I almost got Taylor CMC.
Another person said, I almost got cut Taylor, they were one
pick away from getting those combos because the quarterback
shit is out of control in these drives too much.
Yeah, one thing I know there's kind of like it feels like some
of the quarterbacks who have jobs that people aren't excited
about last a little longer but like, I don't want, I don't want
dude. I'm I'm totally, I'm totally
broke. Okey, be early and these this is
insane. This is too much like I think
keep he's mad or quite a bit in superflex.
This is too much. This is insane.
One thing about these this format, right?
It's only two wide receiver, right arrested?
What's the starting? It's right quarterback to
running backs, two wide receivers tight end Flex
superflex. So only two all they did was
turn a wide receiver position into a super Flex.
So after the Bitcoin Sherpa, just one seems to chase.
I think which is like, you should be able to do that.
That's not fair. So sick, dude, that I mean, that
is like, figure out your quarterbacks later when you can
get those. I think I have CMC Jefferson in
the one I did. Which is what this that's the
same thing that's just, it shouldn't be possible, but
that's people in my opinion have like realized rightfully.
So how valuable quarterbacks are in superflex but they can be the
most important position and still be overvalued in the
assertion of these drafts? That's that's where I think the
rub is absolutely going out. Like, yeah, I have it says, it's
not too much when you actually look at QB 22:30.
I mean I definitely know who those are.
We've done. Don't like, okay, it's hurt.
This hurts. Make sense here or hurts our
Fields. Hurts our feelings.
I do things make sense here. I think it's Tyree Yeah, I'm
going to recur be if we're not if we're not going to do, but if
you guys wanted to hurt your feelings, I'm down.
So I think I will say about hurts or Fields is that's where
the two-year break comes. Unless you like Watson.
Yeah, we could get us all to give you one.
You guys want to get some people.
It's like, let's not make yields.
All right. Yeah.
I got a nice natural host fingers on.
I mean, look at the point is we're trying to win a tournament
here. Like I know the key be 20 to 30
or not good, but when you can like the running back and
receiver A point, still count, whether that's the thing, not
good. If you could potentially have
tight re-kill, and Jonathan Taylor on the same roster and
they could eat pretty easily have a season where they are the
rb1 and the wide receiver one. And and by a lot like all you
need to have been done, is found a way to get starting cubies
that are scoring points like QB score points in every start.
That's why I late Ron Kuby works.
It's not it's not going to be easy to do that, but we would be
taking rookie. Cubies late we would be taking
you know the guys that people don't want.
At the the Forgotten, whatever Mitch to Biscay or something you
know just to try to obey the other your you're speaking to my
heart strings. That's my that's my that's my
highest own quarterback. That's why are some quarterback
in every in every format of these early Underdog.
Just how many really how many quarterbacks you taken these I
think it totally depends. So we have, we have one so I
would call this, you know, where?
Unless you guys want to take a cousins, I think we're probably
going to take, you know, an AJ brown or something else here.
We're going to like anchor quarterback, which is you
definitely need to take three. At least.
I think for depending upon how about the best ball element you
want for? I've played basketball superflex
for a long time or up. Do we want more pits AJ Brown?
Pits if you want to. So one other thing, that's a big
perk of this is taking the elite tight end because then you you.
Yeah, you know, I got so we can only take two, but we got Waller
sitting here and Kittles way back to it when we can easily
grab the Laughing pretty there AJ.
Yeah, we just took Taylor Fields AJ Brown.
I'm feeling really, these are, these are guys that I am a big
fan of for anyone who's read the.
Yeah, that's a fun team. This is, this is you can't get
Jonathan Taylor and age. Brown in it in your as your one
to start in a regular draft, right?
In the first and second round and you can get them with with a
good quarterback. We could have just done it with
Tyreke without. Yeah.
Right, right. But I was gonna say I emphasized
superflex arms, I was trying to say, I've played a best ball.
Superflex Dynasty league is what I was trying to emphasize and
feel very strongly, that the fourth QB is Helpful, even
though I had back in them are in that league for a long time,
just getting to the fourth QB because there are there is
variance and there's injuries. And I mean, I think like if you
could pull this off or you could get wind up hitting on five,
starting cubies if you have a good QB sleeper like a true
Biscay, and you want to take a shot late?
I think five cubes is fine. It's almost like the of the
running back position in a normal dress, where you have to
start to. There's no flex where you could
start a third quarterback, but having five on your roster isn't
like a bad thing. I don't think structurally.
That was one of my first thoughts on this too.
Is like I don't think people will think enough about I think
people will think they can get by with three Cube.
He's getting to a fourth QV is definitely an advantage and I
think you can get by on three cubies.
If so like that you're going to see a lot of people taking three
early or even like Friday or early.
That's just crazy to me. You're just killing your upside,
right? Because we're getting like we
could have just had Jonathan Taylor, Tyree killing AJ Brown.
Our upside is just Through the roof compared to to your team we
want Walter here. I really like wallet here.
This is kind of a yeah break it to your break everywhere.
Yes. Like it, lets go for it.
Actually kind of like Nick Chubb and DeAndre Swift normally, but
we can do so well, I was I would be swift.
I'll t-swift if you want to do switch, I'd rather do Walter.
I think wohlers a smash you in this, in this format, I think it
will. Why are these tight ends going?
This, like, that's exactly what happens in superflex people.
Forget Titans exist. I mean, it's just like you you
need to crush the starting lineup in this.
There's no flexes, right? But like people's minds are, I
have to get the running backs and receivers and the only other
thing I can make a detour for is the quarterbacks now.
So now like tight end just gets forgotten about.
It's like, but hide in is the biggest advantage and out
because if it is allows you, it allows you to structure the rest
of your team to win those other positions by taking a smaller.
Kelsey Andrews. Kittel pits, right?
Yeah, exactly. And you can't catch me.
If wohlers, what we're hoping, you can't catch me at tight end
with a bunch of tight ends. I can't as much as I like to
take wide receivers early. I can somewhat catch you with a
bunch of wide receivers compared to your high and wide receivers
especially if I'm beating you at tight end regularly.
I love the super. I mean Cod, it's so fun.
I'm really happy things in it. I would be.
This is my favorite tournament yet.
I would be hammering these they I'm so happy.
They did it because it it's so fascinating to think through.
So like when it opened, I don't know if you guys drafted pad, if
you drafted, when it first opened these ATP, this is not
how it was. It was like what's going on too
slow. So I haven't it was like many
Josh Allen 101, then you get JT, then you get CMC.
It was like What our backs were very slow to come off the board
and all of a sudden everybody just it just the switch flipped
and all the sudden. Now it's like 13 quarterbacks in
the first two rounds like in the first like 20 pics, you know.
So I was greatest fun. You want Max so I like kind of
Mac Jones here and what do you think?
I don't want to do Mac feels like paying for the comfortable
here and Jones I like Aaron Jones I'm a little worried
mother was sick at work. Hey, what do you want to know
the running back for? Is what I meant?
Well, because then I can go, please, don't we get together.
Our be too late, you know, I mean, I like the wide receivers
Jones is a pretty nice like, but so I'm fine with that room.
Can you talk you for the talk about Metcalf?
Can you give me an ATP doesn't make sense?
Fifth round for Aaron Jones after the after the Aaron
Rodgers re-sign? Well there's it's super Flex.
Yeah I Jones is an accounting to ha but structurally I think We
wanted to get into some receivers because you've already
gone tight end. I think we're going to be
floating and receiver value. The Metcalf Case by him for, was
that his efficiency was actually down last year, but as targets
for outrun were up, and he actually showed this target
earning ability that he hadn't shown the first couple of years.
And I mean I still think you can be an efficient receiver.
Like I was expecting him to bounce back next year with that
Target boost. It's more stable Target Sprout,
running. He took a big step forward like
four or five percentage points into like truly legit range for
a downfield guy that has, you know, why Petit efficiency
upside as well, which he showed his first two years entirely but
not last year. I mean, it is finished.
We can be down again this year, but like he showed Target hog
with are yard, and he's got some after the catch ability
potential. That's All real good.
And so there's like, I'm just willing to be like, well maybe
they still move him. Maybe he gets a better
quarterback on to his roster it like he's a good young receiver
like for sure. Yeah I think there was a there
was a rumor that they want DeShaun Watson.
Yeah. I mean yeah, it'll Seattle once
they're gonna take everything they got for us and just turned
it into water. One thing they're going to put
all of those eggs in one basket. They might Try not to like the
top three to take Malik Willis, like, just they're gonna do
some, doesn't Watson, have a no-trade clause.
Does he have any funding to stand on immediately?
He literally can't. They can't trade him to Seattle.
He doesn't want to go there and I would not go to Seattle.
I'd rather sit out another year then.
Go to Seattle because I'm not kidding, I'm not kidding.
I would sit out the 2022 season rather than go play for Pete.
Carroll in Seattle, I wouldn't do it.
I wouldn't know what is valuable hurt his value.
I agree actually, but yeah, I don't know that the shy w a
little agree. Since he's probably sitting
worrying if he's ever going to play right.
I think he's getting paid walk on whatever discipline might
happen or whatever. I think I think Carolina might
go all-in for him now. I don't know that I go play
format rule either. I would not.
Who would you rather? Would you rather play playing
less I blame? I'd rather play.
I'd rather play format rule. I'd rather play format because I
think he's getting fired sooner. Yeah, but you won't be the one
that makes him not get fired because they're going to
Carolina will win. DeShaun Watson, don't win the
division. If the Jean Watson is there,
Yeah, but you can have a falling out and there can be this whole
thing. This discontent quarterback,
maybe you can just push now, you're you're not getting Carol
push down, Russell Wilson, just tried that and it didn't work.
So, you know, they don't have that path.
This on W is going to go from almost in prison to being able
to have the power to push us over the head coach out.
Yeah. He's our star NFL quarterback.
He's going from almost in prison to about to get traded three
first-round picks for. So yeah, he's definitely going
to have that pout. Motherfucker is he live in a
fucked up world? We sure do corn McLaren.
Yeah, we're out of. Should I should?
I shouldn't have said it because I know who this is and he's
going to take the corner. Yeah.
Well it's also probably watching.
He's got Carson once at quarterback bro.
Like What about Evans? What if, what if the Bucks get
get Watson? That was another rabbit of.
Oh my God, they're still in their window and oh, we got
McLaren guys, there we go. All right.
Quinn. Really cool with McCormick.
Go ahead, take him. He should have taken my clothes.
He has one, team was fun for the first three picks.
We could take that players now. Do you want?
Someone is here. Ben's bumps.
We were so excited about. No, no I'm not.
I just think structurally the the the second running back
there when we're in a super Flex, we only have the one QB.
It's almost like I would rather take the second QB.
It's the easiest position to peace with volume late.
We could have, you know, I don't think in superflex had want to
get a second running back early. I mean, that's the position I
would be forgetting, I would still make sure to get the elite
tight end. Like we did, I want the receiver
depth, no matter what. And, you know, hit the cubies
where you And I'm fine with zero are being super flex and we are
today. What I was thinking meeting,
basically, can't we at this point go?
Like, you know, take just like two more running backs total but
take them later than we would in a traditional hyper fragile
build and then that leaves us a lot of bullets at wide receiver.
And quarterback is kind of what I was thinking or what I think
that's cleaner. The running backs that are
available later. It's crazy man.
Like if Jones just you're right Pat that Jones is a good value.
You there and if he's a hit like if he's a top seven player you
know running back you know, he could be better than that.
But I'm just kind of saying Dylan's there and whatever but
let's say he's rb7 like and Taylor's really good and Browns.
Good. And wohlers, good and all this
stuff like, yeah. Like you'll be a piece for this
team, for sure. I just like, I definitely lean
more towards your be when you when you bring in.
Yeah fly and so especially with Taylor in there it's like I just
want to piece together our be to I don't want to bet on Taylor
and rb2 Weak spot, you know, I would like literally just take
the rest of our running backs. Our last four picks, would have
been like my preference probably and have like five facts but
they were all late, late late, late.
Late backs as our be taking. I think between that and been
you and Sean did a podcast on what I would probably call from
like around 82 round 11. Maybe is this tier of all the
Connor Penny Ramon Dre. Yeah you know that that whole
tier and so that's where I'm at. I'll Sanders goes there, right?
Like I just been living in that tear.
So I like almost all my superflex teams are 0 RB teams
because it allows you to get a quarterback early.
It allows you to dominate wide receiver and tight end and then
you can still get right? If James Conner comes back to
Arizona it's like he's not a freakin ninth round pick.
He's a what do you guys like here?
I liked Avanti Smith and more Cooper and I and I'd also do
Baker. Mayfield.
I like Devante and Baker. Yeah, that's what I was looking
at Devante. I let's do the one thing we're
going to keep pushing kiwi. They're going hi Malik.
Willis went last round like they are not stopping.
I hadn't done one in a couple of days and I did one before we
hopped on Malik, Willis went 40th overall I think you just
keep pushing it. Eventually, these people have to
stop taking quarterbacks, you don't want to be the one at the
end of the run. You want to run.
If everyone's taking five like you suggested, I mean, there
really aren't any quarterbacks left is about to be mr.
Biscay, so I I had the 101. I had the one-on-one I took Josh
Allen and mr. Biscuit was my TV was my TV do,
and I took for we're going to be fine.
Thank you, baby. Things are going to work out
here. We're gonna get his dumb fun
late-round quarterback takes, we're really good Galaxy brain.
Yeah. So, I mean, we still got brown
McLaren and Japan to, it's not like our receivers are bad.
The fact that we're willing to push our cubies is made.
Certainly the two running backs, really?
Okay. The early tight end.
I mean, you want even more receiver depth than that, but
like this is a good team. This is, this is a, this is a
good team. I know, I agree with you.
I typically prefer 0, RB or like anchor, our be in this
tournament, but this is a good. This is a good team.
Do we? I mean, what about Mack Jones is
A1 B1 with Aaron Jones? Is that like, I'm starting to
feel a little left out in the cold here at Encore.
No, I wanted to talk with you for sure.
So I think this is a thing that I actually feel fairly
passionate about, like, with this qb2 spot pushing it.
If a value presents itself, you can take it with an upside guy.
Mac Jones is Not That archetype of a player.
Yeah. And so Gotta get flat, the other
positions. It's finally starting to flatten
out the other positions but we were adding like impact players.
Yes. And so getting uncomfortable
with QB 2 / superflex is like, in my opinion, the biggest Edge
in this weather, your first quarterback is Josh Allen or
well, it doesn't actually matter who your first quarterback is,
but getting uncomfortable with qb2 is like, literally, there's
that, probably not another team in this draft.
Besides the guy picking right. Do your research has Josh
Single. He's in the chat, who's getting
uncomfortable with his quarterbacks, but like no one is
willing to get uncomfortable at quarterback in these drafts.
So if you can do it and then when you hit obviously, right
hit. But the payoff the payoff is
like and few and doesn't even like you win.
Every you match at you, you match a quarterback and you win
every other position. When you're willing to get
uncomfortable at that cutie spot, that is pretty
interesting. I have, I'm glad you, I'm glad
we did this before because I have Have Justin fields and I
got the pic. We just got on the clock.
Go to keep it real quick. I want to make sure he's still
there before. I'd just like start throwing out
names. I think we go Garoppolo right
now to stack with Taylor and play that he's going to Indy,
though. This report oh I think he says,
because we're playing him to be a 16-game starter right now.
And I mean maybe we could have pushed that but I kind of think
we should just get it here. What do you like to do?
You think, do you think we can take them?
I'm gonna ask. Do you think Jimmy G has the
like fantasy relevancy, though? That even like, makes it worth a
pick. If Taylor and has a superstar
then, I think the offense is good enough that I think so
Kent. Because he wasn't really in San
Fran, right? It wasn't.
And neither was once necessarily in India.
It's a fair question because they don't really, but I think
they're going to have to add another receiver, but it by 10,
once had some useful weeks, this past was so I was going to say
if he does what whence did last year, we will be pretty happy
with him here. Yeah, we worked this at this
college in superflex but running can he do?
Yeah I think definitely I had a golf.
Yeah, you because we're playing the Taylor, we're playing the
Colts to be good. You know, we're playing Taylor
to have 20 TVs again and I mean, I think that definitely
correlates with Garoppolo being good all season long level.
One of the reasons that I was down for it is that there was a
guy really wanted. Who is my next guy that I
wanted? The wasn't quarterback.
It was a little bit down the board and he hasn't gone yet.
So as all this this guy's saying he's watching, Jimmy G drafted.
You got to go in on him like you and I want me.
So did you go it on somebody earlier today?
Eric for drive, we had a conversation.
We've had so many conversations in the Discord but I'm still not
sold on that. Jimmy G is is a Starlight super
fantasy not necessarily start. I think he's gonna be a starter
but like a guy want to spend a pic on over you know.
Whoever was there. When did you go?
Oh Judy went before I decide. Yeah, he would have said, I
could pick certain put something went to.
I would go pop. No, I don't think he's fancy
relevant either. We can push that if you guys
want. Let's push it one more.
Let's see who else we got? We got nine.
Carat Wilson, Garrett Wilson little I knew her well soon.
Yeah. Okay.
So right behind trail on Burks, that's kind of what I feel like
that's where you should be going, they should be going very
close to each other. So I just on the just tidy up
that Jimmy G thing. When I Envision him on, probably
a worse offense at best an equal offense.
Let's just, let's say they're equal.
He was not particularly fantasy useful.
You know, even in superflex like you like in theory we can find
guys in a couple of rounds that are yeah, great.
You talked about golf like he's not that different from golf.
If the reason I'm here is in part because we took Fields, who
I think will be a high variance, he won't be weekly stability
guy. He's gonna have some down games
and some spike games, so I actually don't mind and
superflex having one guy who like, I feel like I could get us
15 to 20 doesn't have the senior can get us 15 to 20 a week and
be like Like, I mean, we're playing him to be a 16-game
starter first of all. But like that's really, that's
real one. But if he is a 16-game starter
like he's, he's are like stable QB, and now, we have fields and
some other high variance, guys. I think you can get into some
trouble without at least some stability, right?
And like that's one thing I'll say in.
Grumbles favorites, probably going to have Well, I mean, I
guess you could have some games for Taylor.
Just runs all over everyone here but they also the Cults early in
the season. They had a decent pass rate on
First and Ten. They weren't they were more of a
balanced team in terms of password over expected overall,
they weren't this like Ultra run-heavy team.
The way the 49ers were, I mean, the 49ers were just so run-heavy
and I think the upside for the Colts offense is better for fan
for Cubans. Great because Reich is like a
cubic. Are not rushing quarterback
scoring. Yeah, I think he just hated
once. Like, look, at the way that
their whole team is just crushing one since the trade
that has been crazy, by the way, everyone in India, is just like,
didn't like him as a teammate, all that takes all across.
Like, you don't see that much public like bashing.
Yeah, all pretty. All the beats are writing
articles about what, they just didn't like him, then think he
was a leader. They didn't think he was a good
locker room guy, kind of crazy, but the day he gets traded.
So, I am just going to comment with Jay.
Why can the chat first of all? Jimmy G is not a better value
than Trevor Lawrence. Almost any point in the draft.
I'm not, I don't agree with that there.
One guy has upside the other guy.
You're like, please God give me 15 points and I'm not great.
Trevor Lawrence, you're praying. 115 points.
So we like Albert, Albert it is See ya too risky. 14 Garoppolo.
That's why I was like we don't even want, you can the queue
right? Because I used to I yes, another
receivers grade here. Yeah, we're piling on receivers,
right? Yeah, we need to do quarterbacks
so the only thing we can just scan them who's available.
However all howl Brady just just a little break and so guys we
should take Brady. Don't dirty is no more plan.
Don't tell anyone. We should take Brady, I took
Brady one. One time I took pretty one time.
I like, I like Chorale. And how alive in these?
Yeah, software keyshot, more drafts.
I've been, I've done the same thing that you're talking about
Eric, where I just like, skip all the quarterbacks I've taken
Fields but I basically don't I'm not taking Zach Wilson, he
wasn't good last year. I'm not taking Trevor Lawrence.
He wasn't good last year either and he's going very expensive.
I think there's real opportunity cost of the work and sophomores
to take those. Those quarterbacks I just take
three I take like Willis Howell and Corral.
All right. Take like like I just take three
of the And so that's that's my counter to the Jimmy G thing is
you feel uncomfortable right now, with Matt Correll and say
I'm how and Ritter and Mariota and taysom and take it with
those guys and pick it. You feel uncomfortable, those
eyes right now but they're about to get a job.
Yeah. Right.
You know, and they have more upside than Jimmy Garoppolo has.
It's just that we know for sure he's going to be a starter,
like, but 99.9%, right? We're doing it right now, right?
We should, I think we should do it 100%.
Let's take it. Which guy do you like better
girl? Arouse the highest upside?
I think. Yeah, he's gonna start for the
Seahawks this year. Oh, so do you think, I think
well, it's goes before 9:00 and I think the Seahawks are going
to take a qb9 and he's the one that is sort of this Pittsburgh
pick seven. Pittsburgh another later aren't?
They aren't they in the end? Even something else?
You're right. You're right, you're right.
How many was 24 1912 the seventh overall?
I'll draft order. Yeah, Willis has been getting a
ton of Buzz. He's gonna go crazy high.
I like howl to. I mean Howl's, oh, how will this
went? But how will runs?
He ran a lot last year in a ton last year?
I think had more rushing yards per game dinner, Malik Willis.
He didn't he didn't run it all the year before.
He's a weird Prospect, dude, he was like, awesome, shocker with
the Ami Brown and Javonte Williams and Michael Carter and
Dad's new. So, Mm, like it, spoiler alert,
he had for NFL players with him and he rushed and he was a
really good recruit. He's a good football player and
then they all left. And he had freaking no one with
him. And that's when he just like
started running. Like clay.
Trey's got our next pick. Oh no, he went.
No, he went. I liked it too.
Oh, that's a good. That's a picture.
I like this comment from Nagy says.
Hayden's at once, like a pyramid.
Scheme saw something on Twitter says I can have to eat.
No one understands is utility or value but they just keep buying
opening moons. That's exactly what I miss that.
It's an amazing. It's great.
I hate it. That's the best analogy.
I think I've ever seen. It's so good.
I can't believe that wasn't Denny Denny, wouldn't of have
known the specifics of been of tease them.
Does, he know, what kind of tea is he does?
I think vaguely. Does know what they are.
I don't know if you guys saw speaking of know if Aunt.
Pat and any were at the Super Bowl.
And they interviewed no fan and no offense was there.
He was promoting an empty project so he was like, he's
pitching. He's like tell he was explaining
to patent any like his vanity project and then he was just
like this one of my favorite moments of this, of the year so
far. Jesus Rondell more just went and
so were three. Cues.
Is there any sort of we do? We have three.
Yeah, click click, click link,
you be though. I just want to see if there's
anything else that we might want.
What do you think about Isaiah Spiller though?
Also think about like him anything else would be solid
right now. Oh we could take Brady guys.
What if Freddy come back until not?
He's talking about it. Absolutely clear research.
We gotta stop giving away all our pics here to do your
research. I don't know.
I'm kind of guys will Fuller what?
We doing, he broke this finger Fuller.
Yeah, let's do it. He broke his finger.
I know always injury-prone. He shattered his finger.
When you shatter her finger, you're much more likely to
shatter another finger because that's a thing.
That's what they say. Clearly, that's what they say in
a nigger clearly. If yeah, broken finger.
Yeah, yeah. You're like my hand ring fingers
now, more at risk because you broke one on your right?
Well, I broke one finger and I never oh no.
I actually did break another Vigor.
I've never broken up. See, this is why you don't take
wool for Bend. Literally just proved it live on
the break one, you're going to break another and one was
tipping a pass in a flag, football game.
Very proud. Yeah.
It was weird. Did you guys see Fuller posted?
Like I don't, it was like a month ago, a picture of him and
like the hospital bed. Yeah, the big cast know he he
just got search like recently got surgery again on that figure
or the first world. Wasn't you guys literally
shattered it like it was there was just like a shitload of
fact, I think it's been a like a harrowing Journey back from this
finger injury, so don't mean to make light of it.
But I feel like the discount that we're getting like, you
know, a year removing the injury is kind of you put some pins in,
it peels right eventually. I assume, is that what you did
that day? I had pins in one of my broken
finger, the other one lined up really.
Well, they showed me the crack in the X-ray, but it was like,
it was my ring finger and it was just, I got, I went up to tip a
bug, a deep ball and it just, you know, it's like jump to
Tippett pulled it right back. Broke the play a past break up
on the play. It was long as well for catches
the touchdown then. Do we really care if he gets
re-injured, if it's in the playoffs, good to know.
Yeah. So guys, I hope you know what,
I'm about to suggest here. No.
Nothing like it. It's not like a like it one bit.
Is it Melvin Gordon? We just go ahead and get him in
the cute. No, absolutely not.
Go to the tight end so we can find something better than this.
Hold on. Why is he going in like the
fourteenth round? Someone explain that to me.
I guess is Michelle. No, I think he's under contract
still. Is he under contract?
I think so. I thought I thought had two
years left. I may be wrong about that.
No, he was on the same. He's the same, here's Penny and
those guys that are free against them, he's a free agent.
He's a free agent and rolla Jones.
He's in that same class wrong Jones Penny, till he got traded,
so he would have still had that rookie contract.
He's got to be a free agent. You're right.
And they wouldn't have picked up his first.
His fifth, you know, himself. So, okay.
Well, can you go to receiver though?
So we can like, oh wait, do we have a company?
We hit the grid, maybe so we can.
What do we have? I can't, I can't figure out.
What do we have going? Yeah, scroll the top of that
problem. So we have six receivers, okay?
Yeah. How many, dudes, start in this
two or three? To with a flex.
I'm going to flex And two running backs in one tight end
and then one key b, and a super flex and reflect basically. 1 u
2 to 1, super Flex Flex. Yeah, so you could start for
receivers if your other key be sucked if you can hear.
I think we're in good shape. Yeah.
So the white was a good pick, their then, I was thinking, we
didn't even need to hit running back yet, but the wide receivers
that devalued position here, which is, I thought it was three
receivers know, that would be much more fun, I think.
Yeah. There's no cubies left worth
looking at. I don't know.
There are few games over a doorway Mariota.
I think is a really good starting.
Yeah. And Tom Brady do you really
think Tom Brady will play this year?
I think is, I don't, but I think there's essentially sir some of
the national guys think there's at least a possibility.
I mean I don't know. He was in such a good situation
before I think he's, I think he's gone for eye.
I could see him playing again next year, but I don't think he
plays this year. That's interesting.
Like he go, you know, he takes a year off.
He decides that, you know. Yeah.
San Fran football. Have you heard the rumors?
He's going to San Fran, so I think I'm ready.
Running back again unless we have a good receiver option,
what's that? What's that?
What's that?
What is are? Try, starting late, tight end,
I'm fine. Pushing tied into with Waller on
the wrong. Sir, we're playing for Waller
various. I got one that fits this team.
I promise the receivers a tight end or tight end at tight end.
Okay, where are you at on quarterback are because we have
3 Marc Springer is like the last guy and I do like, I do like,
Mariota the other ones after this are guys, that I don't
think have a realistic starting job, they would be like kind of
contingent. That's what I think there are
some I think there are some interesting ones but we don't we
wouldn't have to take them here. They would be.
Where's Mario de going to start someone, tell me the team that
he lands on. Yeah, it's tough because if true
bisque he's going to the giant. He's going.
The Giants. Yeah.
Is he it would be, it would be no.
It would be who like there's going to be this Steelers left
the team that gets left out of the Watson sweepstakes Steelers
have said that outcome. Do you worry about that?
That's why I'm taking a lot of Julio Jones.
I gotta I gotta to come clean on that.
I mean, the keyword we should we should keep taking my receivers.
I think we're we're find that running back with find a
quarterback. I'm Julio Jones hat was pretty
good when he's on the field last.
I was gonna take the mean well but just to get forth.
Yeah, but I like we can take a look.
I like Khalil Herbert. Also I like the Herbert.
Yeah, I was gonna suggest into I have quite a bit of Khalil
Herbert just again. So, one thing I'm doing in this,
we talked about like the Zero running back thing.
I'm very 0 running back, heavy in these drafts because I'm just
like, dude, it is March, you know what I mean?
Like so much, Shit can happen. So, I'm just taking all the
contingent bats. That includes free agents.
That includes Merc we go ways? Yes, pick, everything Mariota
until I know Kip Casey says Carolina.
And that's a good call. He would be.
That'd be another good landing spot for him.
The other guys are not going to start Donald's, not starting who
we click back on QB. I don't think version is, I
don't think there's a lot of might start locking Trask have
in there in the lock and Trask in.
Their range is to start is I know that it's home in shoe men.
Choose a free agent, right? Is he can you check that?
I guess we wouldn't take him here though, right?
No, not here. When but he be some of the
consider Would you guys like it running back at this point?
You want to click over a running back?
Yes, under contract and just 70, like I feel like we're a
hemostat is undervalued. Oh yeah.
Well, I like the have a lot of moster what also cheetah I mean
if they're trying to carry McCaffrey, he's gonna there's a
few names. There were taking McKinnon, is a
good pic even taken Gaskin before, who I don't love to
take. But like, at this, at this
stage, like you can take this, but this is what I'm saying on.
Does your running back or been when you were talking about
earlier with the Jones thing? It's like, I like Aaron Jones as
a value to, but there's like infinite amount of names back
here at that. Yeah.
Could Skyrocket or, or they're just contingent bats, right?
Sheba is going to be on the Panthers.
Even if cmc's still there, he has contingent value most
artists. Like if he comes back to San
Fran, he's a smash. If he goes to Miami, he's a
smash. I think he, but it's just, we
just don't know. We just don't know Miami.
I didn't think about that as you can but the my anything, holy
shit, that's good. Oh, not going to be able to stop
drafting most right now. Possible scenario.
What do we have? Welcome to my welcome to my
team's. I'm like I'm like Ricky most
heard in the seventeenth round can you imagine if you oh my
God. Unbeliev for more pics here.
What are we? Looking positionally another
running back. 3471, we took two early running backs.
So I think the seven receivers is enough with only two and one
Flex maybe I think we're can. You look at our team Pat really
quick? I want to see who the receivers
are just a, they're visualizing good.
Almost advisor without you two. Oh, that's nice.
We're, we're still probably chasing a little bit at what at
wide receiver. Like the thing is, yeah.
I mean, like you like, you should have strong like, really
strong receivers in this format. And so, this is good though.
Wilson's gonna go high, he's gonna play.
He's r4i. You can Fuller 56 Jones.
I get it. Like, we could definitely use
it. I think we almost need one more
at each position. I would love a force to be yet.
One more running back, one more like that.
And one is that you wanted? He wanted to teach.
Okay. Yeah, that makes sense.
Poster. It's going to help your team for
the first two weeks. No doubt that's a good, is it?
Good comment, that's good. Come how late is your tight end
pick? He doesn't get drafted in normal
Big Board, 20 rounds. Okay, so, okay in super flexy
probably also doesn't get drafted and we did the one
early. So I always with this team, he
correlated. We're going to say that.
Damn it to you research. Why are you going to do?
Got Sky. More would have been so much
better. Why do you why do you want?
But not terrible Place. Roger is not a bad football.
Player could have been the pig. I'm very angry.
You do your research. It would have been a lot of fun
with was Brevin. Jordan your your Titan?
No. Okay, because he would have had
a good pic. He's who I care about.
Is that often? I don't mind you.
I don't mind brother. Jordan, but no, he's not the
guy. Why do you hate Robbie?
Robbie was the only really bad last year.
Yeah. Mister, have you seen the
Panthers? Yeah, but like he was well, it's
a strong counter point. Wait.
So if the Panthers get this, this is my favorite thing to
make parole. And so I'm about to use it to my
benefit. But everybody always says, but
if they get a quarterback upgrade, can you imagine?
And I'm about to I'm about to see that but like, can you
imagine if the Panthers get to Sean Watson like Robbie Anderson
will be awesome and that is true.
But you know, they he might also suck with like Garoppolo, right?
Or Are you know, but also suck with DeShaun Watson.
Yeah, that is here is really bad.
I don't. But I don't buy that, he's bad,
I don't buy. Yeah, I don't actually think
he's, I don't, but I don't buy that from a fantasy perspective
of the he doesn't have like, like look at what we're doing.
I guess. Maybe we should take a Handler.
I didn't realize that the probably running backs.
Do we have? Oh yeah, Himmler God way over
Robbie. Yeah, we should have taken
Hammer. The chat knows who I'm taking by
the way. All the different take him are
have these people. This draft.
So maybe we should take it. Yeah, I'll take him next.
I like that play. I think that's a good pick.
I know that's one of those pics that's going to be, like, really
hyped by the end of the summer, but won't be.
No, yes, yeah, let's do that. Especially with the Jimmy.
I mean that's a great if it's a perfect fit, what's a perfect?
Yeah. Yeah he's good.
You said it was correlated but it's like it's beyond you want
whenever you want to that's our whole bad.
If it's like the whole offense working is that this goes Hitman
targets are going are going to this very they're coming right
down there in the a DOT streaking by for.
They're going to Kyle and granson.
The new little baby. Let's start a new Kindle.
There it is. I was kid'll Kelly, Branson, I
was smashing grandson before Doyle retired, because it was
just, I don't know. I thought it made sense that you
know, Doyle shouldn't be keeping grants and from getting on the
field and if he's keeping him from getting on the field, then
grandson just sucks. So you know it is what it is.
Now Doyle is gone by like ox is a free agent I'm like Like
they're not going to invest at least.
I don't think that much in a tight end and they just drafted
this kid. Yeah I thought was a targeted
goal for sure. I think they're going to see
what they have in him. I don't know what that means for
Fantasy, so we're trying to help without this key.
One more Cube e and what we need to get another running back and
I believe McKinnon is still sitting there, go to running
backs. There's like a few more that are
other good ones too, though. Yeah, McKinnon's that the top of
the board, he's gonna go. Oh, how is McKennon going in the
eighteenth round? Yeah, Vaughn should be going
well above this. He's the last man standing.
It's a big. They're going to bring someone
in but it might be fucking David Johnson or something.
You have another QB Eric in the store.
I have I have some like you know, Galaxy brain QB takes
that. I think are that I think are
pretty fun. Oh mention uh mentioned I think
track we can just talk about him out.
These people aren't going to take the guys that were talking
about, I think Trask is a reasonable guy.
Like, if Tampa Bay, if the musical chairs happen and Tampa
Bay gets left out of QB, they just, they just Drafted him.
And you know, I don't know. Maybe they like him who knows?
He could be a starter next year but there's uncertainty.
And so he goes super late Huntley is like a maybe
Baltimore trades him because somebody else wants him.
No, they love him as her backup, who else?
Is there any more native? Scroll down a little bit.
Worst, fits Pat. What's his pasture?
Basically, like retire Mason Rudolph could actually start.
Yeah, Fitzpatrick. Is that I wouldn't mind?
What Fitzpatrick? Couldn't he end up somewhere?
Yeah, I've heard zero every guy who's ever backed up his gotten
hurt. It's 100% correlation.
Arthroscopic surgery. Oh, he takes wences job once
just sucks. Just save him.
We have Jimmy G though. We can't have them both it and
he Jesus Christ. No, no, he's taken wences in
Washington. Oh yes.
I'm saying if he stays alone take once his job you're saying
you're saying he's going to take once his job we have McLaren oh
my God, incarnate the Fitzpatrick.
Yeah okay I hated the pick and now we've gal brained a stack
so. Well, I mean I was I was You
guys caught up to my big old Galaxy.
Brain, is what happened? You were thinking into, yeah,
you guys. So, you guys had put up to where
once is, you know, you're with the goddess wants, is a
commander they could bring him back.
That would be a means. They only tried it a couple
thirds for once. Okay, well can I throw a
petition? I know we took them.
Can I throw to two names out? Everybody's very stuck on the
rookies that were projecting higher.
Carson, strong, Is not that worse of a QB.
I mean he's worse but he's not that much worse of a QB Prospect
than some of these other guys like Ritter and he doesn't get
drafted in these and my like super Galaxy brain take that I
do on like zero quarterback teams where I take like five or
maybe even like six. Quarterbacks just all super
late. It's Bailey zappy.
Western Kentucky quarterback, not a bit.
There he is. In the not a bit.
I knew he was a rookie but I was trying to figure out if not a
bit, he is a rookie. He is, we talked about, you
know, how I do have takes on players and all of that.
And like from grinding college football DFS and watching so
many games, he's the kind of guy that I believe is like
legitimately good at football, but doesn't have like, all these
These measurables you think it's good and I felt requires kind of
sort of. Yeah, I mean he was an air raid
quarterback and but I legitimately think he's good.
I legitimately think he's gotten a mission.
So, wait, what you want to do here?
Running back. Not not quarterback running.
You gotta go. Buy an RV, click on our be real
quick. Do you want to be Foreman's
here? Trey sermons here.
No sir, my kind of like some permanent this price.
Someone's earn Sony sermon algier Pierce ago sermon.
I would do Sony to Sony just because it's not a team to Sony
might get a job. Yeah he's letting my kid.
Oh really? Yeah don't wish it was a word.
We're going to time out and I was going.
Yeah it's a couch or a sofa or - fine sir - fine.
Yeah I like you're strong. You're strong is a good pick.
Someone said him wrong. There's good Ricky's back here.
Since you know what are we doing in the?
That was in nineteen. So our last pick is whoa!
Wait, we have another pic running back.
We can do quarterback if you want.
I thought I said that. So we do have this bonus pick.
Now that bonus pick. Oh, I know who our bones pick
is. Another RV another or be.
I don't want to say I think we're on the D.
Do your research side of this. Yeah.
Yeah, that is your last drink that is that is Josh Pringle and
he's so let's just sprinkles. Yeah, he's very good at this.
He's very good at this and he said, oh, I'm sorry, I got so
mad at sprinkle your, No get mad.
Look, let's get mad at him. I've been messaging him all
week. He's been in the Omni fantasy
drafts and I mean, Pringles, get, dude, but like, why are you
stealing? Our guys?
What's going on? I'm a little, I'm a little bit.
The sky more one annoys me because I didn't get a chance to
Happily clicks guy, more on the, on the podcast with with Eric,
that have been a lot of fun. Shoutout, Josh Damien, While
we're approaching, I don't know if the running back that you're
talking about is this so I apologize if I'm spoiling it, I
don't think I am. I've been taking a lot of Jerry
Patterson. What do you guys think about
Jerry Patterson? All right here as a Content as a
guy like that. Yeah that I like that.
For sure, one of the other guy, the guy, one of the guys just
went. This isn't the guy was talking
about but I think Foreman is an awesome pic.
Yeah, you look really good, dude.
These are way too good at running backs to be available
back here. In the 20th round there's so
many Foreman like what, dude, you can build we literally could
have went just anchor. Our be and taking yeah, we
probably should have now I'm back off of the Jones pick.
Dude, I want to do so many of these drafts, oh my God.
Now, you've learned now you've learned how these drafts.
Go either. Literally have I told, I told
the people in our Discord, I was like, I'm gonna do 100 % 0r B in
these drafts because like, I think you can anchor I'm gonna
eventually hit the right combination of the, what about,
you know, on one, yeah I'm I like, you know, I love it that.
I don't think both will be back if they're both back when a
tough spot, but if they're not, you know, same thing, but
contingent bat in an awesome offense, right?
All right, you look good. When you got a little time this
year, did? Yeah.
He's Rashad white who we took. Like, that's a pretty good I've
rounds earlier, except he's better if I had a good team.
Well, you did well with the short clock, and not usually
being the guy on the ones and twos.
Appreciate that. Appreciate that.
All right. So our team is Justin Fields.
Jimmy Garoppolo Matt Correll Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Does this, the feels a little white and coordinate, it doesn't
feel good at all. I have to say it's a few me.
Like, yeah, I love the way I love the running backs, but I'm
a little bit worried about your quarterbacks.
It does feel a bit scary second round pick, and this teams
immediately dead. Matt Correll is not like of top
15 pick. This team is not, Corral is bad.
By the way, mackerel is not a good.
Football player. Like he's a good athlete.
He was a good college football quarterback.
I have zero faith in my craw. Being a good NFL quarterback.
It's what about how will then well, are you, are you do you
think Howells more of a wild card in that he could actually
be good? I think, I think Howell is
actually has a wider variants like is much wider variance.
I'm gonna start taking howl, then I'm gonna start to go film
takes to take it more. How I've taken more.
Hell, the film takes it QB like, actually matter kind of a Not to
me like I feel like if you watch the guy week in and week out you
get a pretty good feel if he's good or not.
And so yeah. So the probably need that you
watch a lot of ground. You think he's not very good.
He's not like I watched a lot of Jake Locker.
I knew Jake Locker wasn't going to be successful on current so
that is a unbelievable. I'm so happy that you made that
just random reference. That's how I feel about about
Matt Correll he put up tons of college numbers.
He played for Lane kiffin in a lane kiffin offense that
literally it's Play calling laying is a mastermind and
carouse, a good athlete. So he ran a lot and, like laying
designs shit open. And so Pearl was good enough to
make that happen. He lost them games, more than he
ever won them games at Ole Miss. Despite this past year, they
didn't have a ton of talent, but he had Elijah more the year
before, like they were not lacking for talent most of the
time. at at all Miss, whereas Sam Howell this year was at
least like Still putting up big numbers with, with absolutely
nothing in like running with it. I mean, Mack Brown coaches, you
coaches UNC Lane, kiffin, coaches, Ole Miss.
There's a big Stark difference in the situations that they were
in. And so, I, I'm not really not
grow something about what 85 like, literally like, he might
die tomorrow. Very old.
I hope not. Yeah, would be really dark now,
be very unfortunate. Podcasting career, but but I'd
think how is you know, they're both really high variance
players but I'm a little bit more bullish on how but
honestly, I don't love either of them, but I'm very anti Corral.
Interesting. All right.
I think we'll start taking more howl because I've been taking
Corral because it seemed like, maybe his draft position was a
little bit more likely to fall, you know, well for him, but what
do you thing about? Pickets are will see legit this
year. I'm in his numbers really jit.
Pick. It was the pick.
It was an absolute stud that. So I'm gonna literally answer a
question with a question the like hand size and measurables
and all that. How do you guys view that with a
quarterback because pink it wasn't 100% model or in the pot
and that's in my stream outcome. Like I seriously like that's one
rhyme. Like I'm not going to ignore
that. That's a really a string number.
It's not mean. I have bigger hands than.
Can you pick add? I do.
Do I measure the 5-11? My hands are bigger than this.
Like what? Ate so much for my hands.
But he was the in my opinion he was the best quarterback in this
class. Thormann good.
And I have a, I have a tape right here.
So I measured it. That's nice.
SkyWars the largest Hands-On class can believe that but so
you think pickets good other than if the hand sizes in it I
think I think pick it is. That's my like Bailey's.
Abby take pick it as like a good football player.
I'm like 90 he's just a good football player.
He also runs enough like corral and howl and Willis are getting
the running quarterback label. Pick it will run.
He's not a runner but he will run.
You know, it's kind of like bro does now.
Yeah. Yeah bro was me compared him to
burrow and that way? Yeah.
Yeah he will run. He's not a runner but he will
run and I just think he's a better football player take that
for whatever it's worth. I think it's kind of I've been
challenged by dangle here okay I'll be right back.
He's literally gonna go. I love that.
We started off the team and we got through the quarterbacks
that was it and we made it into Matt Correll.
We're on the third player of our team and the next thing you
know, Pat was we were we had another Bailey's a p reference
before we got the Jonathan Taylor.
Listen, go watch, Bailey's dappy.
I'm telling you, I've taken, I've done like 12 of these
superflex drafts. I think I've taken Billy's a P3.
In, if he gets drafted in the right spot, he he could be one
of the like, Davis Mills. Like, how Davis Mills was
starting for the shitty Jimmy later in the year.
That's what he can be and I think he's better than that.
He absolutely is better. If the Seahawks decide they're
going to take another tool Z Edge at 9:00 and then take him
in the third row, exactly their start.
By we can't be feel be starting later and he's better than Davis
Mills in my opinion. How do you measure your hands?
What's the appropriate dorm and did it on the table and put like
his pinky at the zero? And so that's how I was doing it
and I was doing it in the air and I was getting a smaller
number. So I think you are supposed to
lay it on the, on the tub. It's got to be on that.
So she said, so you lay your hand on the table?
You lay the tape measure down and then you lay your hand on
top of the tape measure, line up the end and reach your thumb as
far as you can. We can't read it.
It's a different angle. It looks like about about nine
in chance. They're not nine and a little
change, nine. A little change.
Hey guy, got Joe Borough hands. Okay, that'll work tomorrow,
not. Can he pick it to be clear?
I got Super Bowl, appearing hands.
There they goes. Probably got a little little,
seven and a half inch hands. That's why it's going to come at
me. Little Baby Hands.
Brandon Allen hands. All right.
Pat, you got through the QBs who who's the rest of our team?
Yeah, I don't even know who we got sidetracked.
Jonathan Taylor, Aaron Jones, Rashad white, he most your tray
sermon you know, Benjamin that feels pretty good, that's a fun.
Okay, we've got past the horrible part of our team and
instead of good part of them, that's a good part.
But I'm a little shook from the quarterback AJ Brown care,
Michael Arden the W, A Smith, Garrett Wilson brain, are you
William Fuller Julio Jones and that's that's all of our wide
receivers. Yeah.
You literally drafted Julio Jones and I can't even get a
Robbie Anderson. Like how is that a fucking real
thing? Please?
Because because Leone gave up on Robby Anderson, that's how dusty
was the Leone. Finally stopped playing with the
fs. And then still playing really a
John so. And then if I remember
correctly, Robbie finally had her game.
So that's, yeah, that's true. Actually Robbie, I believe 17 a
million dollars. Yes, that's correct.
He was on the Millie maker winning to.
Yeah, that's true. All right.
We also took Robbie Anderson, which is a good pick that Eric
dumps into and then Darren Waller and Kyle, and grants and
to pair with Jimmy Garoppolo, who's going to the Colts.
Let's go. That's this is a fun team.
It's not our best team but, you know, we're new to the format.
at, I think it's a fun team so the W magazine but the
quarterback thing is like This is how you should, honestly feel
about your team out. It doesn't have to be how you
feel about it at quarterback after the draft, but you should
feel about your team, like you run through a position or
something about your team and you're like, fuck, that's there.
That's terrible. You know, you and your Tiara.
Like that's bad because we knew when the kiwis are for one
freaking Malik will sweat in the fifth round or whatever.
Like and we did take Fields, but we were saying we're going to
have to hit at Be the rest of it were going to be loaded.
We're not going to feel like we had to get a ton right
necessarily because we have a lot of good players those spots.
I mean I honestly feel we could have been deeper at running back
in receiver than we even wound up being.
But if any took Jimmy Uso, Jimmy fucking G in the ninth round who
with what they want to see the full board.
Oh yeah, yeah. That's all info.
Click info. You can click Casey seen.
You can click Casey's team. Yeah, we can week overview
individual teams. I don't appear to be able to
pull up the draft board. Oh, well, yeah, he has a, he had
the 101. Will the devil Jones, mr.
Bisque, he's back up, isn't probably going to get you any
points. Yeah, wow this team needs to get
Sauced at QB. I mean and this is coming
Martin. You can't you can't be weak at
QB in this form. You just can't, you know this is
super Flex, right? This would be fun seriously, if
you're willing to take be fine, if this is a regular Big Board
team, I'd be fine. But this is superplex KZ.
You gotta check the rules man. If you get only take three, one
of them. Can't be Dale jokes.
That's my rule. That's right.
I mean since the case on the positive I may have gone over
the sauce level that I let her lie.
All he literally did not request viewing his team.
No yeah, just what happened when you probably should have drafted
a superplex team but yeah, but the real problem is that he
drafted. The 49th pick overall, the
backup, brought the backup quarterback for the New York
Giants, which is pretty goddamn in practice.
Let's see the rest of us to you, let's give him a call but now I
feel bad starts with Josh Jacob. So, I mean, it won't be heard.
All right. Go to the dude, I could beat
Karen Williams in a race. And that's his.
He the early running back, three or four.
Sorry. Now how How much are you factor
than with Williams? Because I would like to still
take Williams. If he's gonna go real cheap, you
know, like he I love just profile of high profile.
I know. Does he have?
I'm like, Kelsey and Kettle. Are there other good players
that time? Yeah, we haven't.
Where are the good players Kaz? We're waiting Tyree kill Stefon.
Diggs are pretty good. He has Jameson Williams.
We're good. Yeah, did some did he tears?
I see Larson. My camera might just sticky and
Pat prior move. It's fine.
It just took we had to get to receiver for I tell you what
this does make me feel better about pushing it at at
quarterback. Yeah.
What's up? You see what normal teams look
like? He got Josh, fucking and Allen
and you see how hard it is to make it seem even around Josh
and Helen. Where did he go?
All Tyree killing step, one thing in a league where you only
have to start two wide receivers.
I mean that's pretty sweet. Yeah, it's very sweet but Robert
Woods as the wide receiver three.
I know. Eric, we already saw some.
We didn't ask for it. Sorry Casey, I love you, Casey.
Daniel Jones turn but I completely do.
Can you do Josh? Do your research.
Josh didn't answer to get ready. I don't care if you know what
I mean. This is this is a rough at
quarterback. That was excellent work.
All right. Moving to it.
Moving a running back. When I know Kevin Harris is
which is exhausting myself, highly, literally don't South
South Carolina. He's a, he's a modern-day Ark of
a name for me to remember to this day in the office.
I don't get it. Some of these.
Some of these guys have been taking care of Kevin Harris and
I do, I literally don't get it. He's like he was like, Jerome
Bettis in the SEC just like it's not a detox.
Exact class through Zoe. It's not, it doesn't make any
sense to me. His running backs are good
though. The rest is running faster.
Good. That's a Spillers, a great pick.
Yeah. 138. I mean she but let's keep going
down so we can make fun of something.
Yes, just as chapters like Williams is mr.
Renfro's, your third receiver, he loves french fries.
I know Josh. He all he got Wilson with both
Sutton and Tim Patrick. Yeah, pretty smart renfro's.
Not even that bad. I'm going back there and he's
literally should be an option yards for outrun.
Josh is the person who has literally convinced me on
Renfro. We came into offseason and I was
like, I'm not, are you kidding me?
I'm not drafting hunter in, from the sixth round and he actually
was the one who started to convince me that he made sense.
I think, I think it's fine pick. Yeah, yep, Jefferson.
Patrick, I wasn't in on, but I'm gonna come around now.
I think this is now I think Williams has What do you think
about Patrick versus Handler? I like a better, I like Helen
better to, but I could definitely see.
Tim, Patrick be like, sort of like, a Jermaine Kearse, where
you get the plays over his head, just because he's playing with
Russell Wilson. I think, I think you should
split them. If you're, you know, from a best
ball, exposure perspective, like, I prefer kg Himmler, if
you want to go a little bit higher on him because you think
he has more upside. But like who are we to say how
the Broncos are going to deploy these four guys?
You know I mean like if they want Judy in the slot which is
what Have done it already. Yeah, Hamlet Hamlet.
I mean only got Alberto with that.
Do this team six? I'm just I know.
We're supposed to sponsor better than pizza.
No. And then Jalen Tolbert is an
awesome. I love told her I love Tobar.
Awesome. See, the great team.
This is the team that left the good players for tight end.
I was not, I was not prepared for you to scroll down and show
us and Alberto behind door number.
Let's scroll back up to quarterback.
Yeah, just a minute guys. Only we do not scroll down
because everything an else is great.
And everything else is fucking loaded and if he hits on one of
these quarterbacks were screwed, but he won't wait till Marcus
Mariota starting for the. All right, these guys want to
review Corbin and Bitcoin AAA going to use Corbett.
I'm hoping it's gonna help. Your name is Corbin Wells here
as well. In the chat, taysom Hill at 1:30
147 picks above his ATP. Yeah.
Oof his mentor's is out of the league now so I don't think
that's gonna come up out of the seat.
Does he know that Carson with the dude that he has got traded
to the the commanders? Were you out on Malik Willis?
Cuz I feel like, doesn't he carry some of that trail ants
risk that he might sit the whole year?
Plus we don't know for For sure where he got drafted. 100%.
Why does he not carry? He's okay.
Worse Prospect and Trey Lancer. Yeah.
So Tannehill is your only quarterback.
That's not very good. Let's keep rolling.
Well, what Tannehill was in the thumbnail, which, you know,
people were very nice about them is, everyone knows I had to make
thumbnail this week and the reviews are pretty good, so
maybe I was an au Marche it in it.
All seriousness stations on the tires are Taylor heinicke are
going to combine for like 20 points as whole.
Yeah, I'm sorry about that. Not even like being an asshole
saucing. Yeah, I do.
Taysom Hill in Taylor heinicke is how you want to round out
your quarterback group personally in this guy's touting
balaam's a p. So, you know, exactly.
All right, let it is how many? Hey, it's not bailing.
Sorry, Haley, put those are good running backs.
I'm fine with all those at those prices ceh is a fine price.
Right now, you're watching. Great running backs off.
We were a trillion on the kitten.
Yes. Is this a really good running
back? Or that's a real good running
back or actually. Yeah, I really like that.
No come Chasin waddle at the top receiver, who Metcalf who Amari
Rondell child s. This is pretty damn good.
These titles be shitty, these titles gotta be shittin, ya,
it's tough. Even Bell is also.
I mean he's getting dinged for his athleticism and rightly.
So I mean it's a concern. I think I'll probably throw a
ball to the third round but like Jarvis Landry is athleticism
sucked. You know, you can I can be all
right I haven't really is athleticism sucked.
Like he wasn't you know the scouts were sitting weren't
talking about him is like this explosive athlete.
You know, he's more about you watch, David Bell.
Play you are never like holy shit.
This guy right on real athlete. He were just right he's really
good at football. Exactly.
So it doesn't undermine like the the perception of him.
I think an amazing way like Trail and bursts athleticism is
probably more important cause when you watch him you're like
this guy. Yeah.
Suppose it right, right, they're throwing him screen.
As David Belle's. The canal and Keenan Allen mold.
Yeah, he's like, you know, not the Jarvis.
Landry, potentially do that productive in the love a good.
You might be a bit of Allen Robinson came in town comp.
He doesn't. He doesn't have to the jumps of
Rob. Yeah, knocks in Arnolds, not
very good. Yeah, you kind of just punted
on, could be entitled, but real, good running backs and receivers
were not any rocks. And I see receivers If only the
quarterbacks and Titans could have been good too did you know
it was super Flex for you? Well I mean did you know that
there's a reduced amount of running backs and wide receivers
in the tight ends one is? That's also I think one of the
key literally punted, the two most important verb on effect.
I hate to go back to Josh's team but to get the cow pit
sourdough, that's pretty good. You know when you're a
quarterback rooms as bad as this, you need to have a good
time but but I mean pretty good. We need Pete here to Bonk on the
roster base. In hard because pads way too
excited about you. I do not know.
Not only is he he didn't draft a single starting quarterback but
yes that's not even raise the walls and he's not a viable.
I mean, come on. Well we will see will see we've
established that Russ has washed the word Rises wives.
Will see their got fish, like he's a bridge quarterback that
can drive someone to bridge the very bottom team that wants to
bottom theme. Okay, keep well sure.
Yes Corbin. Yeah.
Dak. Lance Lawrence Mills.
Okay, we got a good quarterback, our so bad.
Well Lord those are between human Barbie, Patterson, High
key Sean's, pretty good. Sony, that's pretty good
Heavens. Yeah.
Okay. That's a fun.
You could be okay, here, right? This time to be okay.
You're really not gonna be a lot of runningback points, but other
than that, it's good. So big reveal.
Did you get? Good wide receivers CD lamb.
Deante Johnson DJ more Michael Pittman.
Rashad Bateman live, Viscous chennault, Marvin Jones.
Okay, this is a pretty well that's cute adsorb.
The feel like I like, so because he has a hold on, Tia's DAC, and
he has Lawrence Wright. What are his quarterbacks?
Again, we scroll up the exact Trail and Florence Mills.
Yeah. So he's stacked.
A key stack Lawrence. I don't know about Lance and
Mills. But who is you got tight end?
At the bottom? I said don't kill dolphins,
almost act like it. I would say only seven receivers
here, and how many running backs it ago?
I think I would have liked another receiver without
receiving Corps. You haven't already guys with
the running backs, right? The running backs are really bad
plus, you can only do the two wide receivers, well, the two
and flex, but I like this team. This is Oddities, it's a good
way to execute 0r B. You have in this a quarterback
heavy team, right? So, okay, so what do you do to?
I think I'm skipping, I would not take milk, we just get them
there. Either Lawrence or Mills, one of
the two. I feel like is you can you can
still take for but man you look at those running backs when like
he's he has the worst running backs in the whole league and
the wide receivers aren't that good either, right?
And honestly, the tight ends are fine but not that good and so
you see it Those are good. I like wanting 111 swap
somewhere. Yeah, one more.
Good one right. We took Jimmy.
Yeah, I hate Jimmy. But like you 12 Lawrence to
Jimmy and then take a fourth-round wide receiver or
yeah. I like that.
Yeah. I like that probably that's were
even like even in that you could have gotten an Aaron Jones and
then you know right Aaron Jones to just and Aaron Jones inter
Biscay. Or Jimmy or howl, or pick it or
whatever. I think the running backs are
fine, dude. I am like I am fine with cream
hunted rb1. I don't really like Patterson is
Art. It's you.
I don't really like Drake. Like, the specific players
aren't necessarily my favorite. The structure.
I'm fine with Haunt at 132 as your first running back.
I think that's pretty sweet. Yeah, it's horrible because you
could have taken it was it was Lawrence and CD right next to
each other. So you get another, maybe you
get like a tea Higgins or something you said of Lawrence.
That'd be pretty sweet. Eat or tight end or tight end,
great great like great where you say, or you take the elite tight
end, right? And I like Schultz and Irv fine
but they're not one of the elite structurally.
This is close to what I think this.
I do a lot of, especially, out of the 12th spot.
I really like this kiwi, kiwi of 12 slot documents, like just get
two of them. If you're in the back, one of
the big advantages you can do in superflex.
This is some Shawn told me like years ago and I've seen him do
it. If you're at 12 like hit two.
Quarterbacks in your qb2, spot can be a differentiated right
now, right? Only difference.
I'm going to throw out for that. In this contest is sometimes
like 10 quarterbacks have gone. you're deciding, but yeah,
you're deciding between He got dark and Trey, Lance, you're
deciding between dad and DAC and Jamar, Chase DAC and Davante
Adams. Yeah, you know, so it's this
contest is so crisp. The key.
The QB ATP is just so crazy that it's a, it's a, it's a tough.
It's a tough thing at the time. But I mean, it's a 3/4, all I
had left was Lawrence. So, it's kind of like, he went,
he went there and then he kind of, but you guys are ready.
Could he even not taken Lawrence after we started?
Qpq be. And I think that's what I would
have done. Yes, yeah, Dad, Cantrell and his
fine, but then I probably go away from Lawrence.
Yeah. Yeah.
You don't need that third cubic. You mentioned that right away.
When we started Cube 3, keep these in the first four rounds.
I don't think you needed it. You can only stop because when a
given leave because he got Mills at pick 108.
It's a Lawrence epic 37, you know?
And so that I could take a Mills and then Fitzpatrick and you
would have been just golden or one of the rookies, right by
force. Like we've convinced Magic's a
good picky not in fucking snuck that in and I wasn't even
listening to you so much pain. We've done so many shows
together that and this is how Ben and I Sunday morning DFS
shows he just is talking and I'm just waiting for him to finish
and so I'm not even thinking that if not even thinking about
what he's saying and I'm just like yeah.
So what do you think about this? And that was literally what just
yeah. Literally just said that it was
literally what just happened? He was like yeah and you take
Fitzpatrick and I was Like, oh yeah, you're right.
And but that's, that was a, if you're tuned in Rota
Grinders.com premium, that's the kind of content you're gonna get
is me, literally not listening to me, I'm something morning.
All right, we hit two hours. This is a fun stream.
Yeah, let's let's let's close it out, Gretch.
What do we got on the Omni counter?
What which of the people be watching?
We had the the UCL these last two days.
The next to our Tuesday Wednesday.
Same time slots, they'll be the rest of the round of 16 between
then and now we have the first golf tournament.
So a lot of people ask me about golf scored.
It's an aggregate of the four majors plus the players, which
is like, you know, one of the this is often referred to as the
fit major. So we throw it in there, it's a
fun, one to kick off the Gulf calendar.
So the winner of that will start to gain points.
The way that PJ scoring works is like, it's the best overall
finish over the five tournaments, so you won't get
any official on fantasy points from That but like if your guy
wins that tournament this weekend, The Players
Championship, you're going to be a great spot.
He's probably going to have locked up some, some points for
the on a fantasy season overall by winning, one of the five
tournaments. So, that's a fun one to watch
and then, yeah, the rest of the UCL and then March Madness
starts next to next Thursday. So we start hot and heavy which
is kind of the fun thing about these first.
Like four months, we have like several Turner.
I mean, we'll have NHL coming. In will have MBA coming there.
Playoffs will start in about a month.
Month, the whole college basketball season will be done,
you know, a month from now because it's like three
weekends, they do the entire thing.
And then you CL Champions League will be done by then we last
year we had Euro in the early summer but this year with World
Cup that's not till November December.
So it's a there's a, you know, there's a little bit of a push
back there. While some tennis events coming
up. Yeah, these first few months are
fun. Nice.
Alright. Eric, what do you got for us?
Not a lot basketball season apparently never ends or there's
no start and finish to best ball season.
We are literally drafting NBA playoff basketball.
MLB does MLB baseball has launched and we don't even know
when the season is going to start.
It's absolutely crazy. So just head over to spike
week.com. My main recommendation is
hopping the ORD. I mentioned it a couple times on
this stream. Its 100% free and there's tons
of people including people that were in this draft.
Shoutout, Josh Pringle, who sniped us at every possible turn
of this draft are in there. Just talking tons of strategy
and FL and be a MLB. If you want to talk something
non best of all related, there's people there for that too.
And it is my favorite resource. Obviously I'm biased.
For talking about all this different stuff, including the
superflex draft that we did. So that's my big thing is the
spike week, discordant, nice, awesome.
All right, make sure to check out the podcast.
I was talking about with with Davis Amico and Friedman.
I'm super excited to talk about the wide receiver class in depth
tomorrow, but otherwise, we will see you guys next week.