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Hi, I'm Mike Shope. 
Welcome to ADP chasing Week 13. 

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We had Josh Allen. 
Did we ever. 

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We had Beshawn Robinson, We had 
Kirk Cousins, we had Parker 

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Washington. 
And it feels like a long time 

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ago, I think, but we also had 
Brock Bowers and there were 

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three games before Raiders, 
Chiefs. 

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So let's talk about critical 
week, last week of the best ball

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season on underdog going into 
Week 14 and you know, high 

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stakes stuff. 
It's all happening right now 

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with Davis Matic and Pat Crane. 
I'm Mike Schoop, Welcome to ADP 

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Chasing December 2nd, 2024. 
ADP chasing is for when you 

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watch chip chasing, you go these
guys are just football guys and 

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the targets for outrun leagues. 
That's going to be really nice 

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actually, back in if it's 
Austinette. 

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Compared to our crystal ball, 
close your eyes, you know all 

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your entries are going to lose. 
Anyway, yeah, that's fair. 

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This is a Dusvan show. 
It's. 

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Anti cabal. 
It's anti the best ball thought 

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leader. 
I'm obviously lying to some 

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degree because like, I have a 
lot of both of these guys. 

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It's the most. 
Disgusting thing you can make 

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but. 
Man. 

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So I am dragging a little bit to
be honest on this late Monday 

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morning here in sunny Buffalo in
the East after last night's 

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another beat down from the Bills
in prime time. 

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Pat, did I detect some anti snow
game bias from you recently on 

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ship chasing or was that just 
Pete doing a bit about his dad? 

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Who was I don't remember any. 
What was my anti snow game bias?

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I don't know, like you guys were
trying to what, what does the 

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weather mean in terms of fantasy
football strategy? 

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You know, like Pete. 
Pete did a great few minutes on,

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like how his dad tried to 
predict thunderstorms when they 

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were at the zoo. 
That's good. 

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No, I, I don't, I think I was 
just trying to figure out if we 

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could get an edge. 
I'm not, I'm not Team Denny who 

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wants domes everywhere. 
You know, Denny's like just 

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build a Dome in every cold 
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that we have, you know, real 
football in the winter. 

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It would be his argument. 
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I, I don't mind the snow so 
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I don't like it when it's like 
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let's run the ball and go home 
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That seems bad. 
But I kind of like the elements 

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a little bit. 
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warm enough to move, I like the 
elements. 

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I mean, Davis last night was 
gorgeous, no? 

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Yeah, so I. 
Got be there. 

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I go, I go back and forth. 
It's obviously terrible for the 

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game we love. 
Like the 49ers and the Bills 

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were not interested in the 
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it's very cool for like watching
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So if you are sort of more 
someone who loves ball, you love

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to watch your team physically 
manhandle the opposing team. 

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Like the the you know, the 
Jameis 2 point conversion in the

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snow with the the mic hang out. 
It's a great moment. 

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You how many fantasy points 
Jameis Winston scored in that 

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game 13.9. 
So it's, it's a matter of, of 

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where your, your, your 
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moment. 
I, I think obviously fantasy 

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football would be far better if 
there were just 32 domes, but I 

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don't know. 
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expensive Bills players every 
year in fantasy football, I I 

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probably am OK with them. 
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it would be better be higher 
scoring, but it might be. 

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It might be even harder, you 
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I mean, could anything make 
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than Saquon Barkley getting 
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I, I really don't think so. 
Really there, there is no every 

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team I'm getting through. 
I, I've got a couple FFPC Sprint

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teams that are like very live 
that are like good enough that I

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think we could maybe win some 
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None of them featuring Saquon 
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And let me tell you, those 
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fought a a God damn battle to 
get those teams. 

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Across fine you you absolutely 
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Yeah, that's how I feel about 
every team I have it that's 

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advancing. 
It's just like, I mean, the the 

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tough part about Saquon is that 
he's so clearly like the guy you

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want going forward. 
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Right. 
It's not even like, oh, you 

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know, yeah, he got you here, 
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Like Henry, Henry and Cara, you 
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well, Henry and Mara, they'll do
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going to be the guy you had. 
To have to be plenty. 

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I mean, I'd still rather have 
Chase Brown than Derrick Henry 

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right now. 
And I don't even mean that in a 

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slappy way. 
I mean that for real. 

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I mean that. 
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Chase Brown to score more 
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Derrick Henry in projections and
ranks is like running back 9 

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every week running. 
Back every week, Yeah. 

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Yeah, he's a second round pick 
in BRS every week. 

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It's not the same as Saquon in 
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forward. 
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ceiling every week, but. 
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guys talking about Bucky Irving 
yet or are we still holding that

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Man, man, the the Bucky Irving 
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I I sadly feel that a hard rain 
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Irving people. 
Is that right? 

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Do you know? 
Do you know how many snaps he 

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played yesterday, Mike? 
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leave. 
I believe he had at least 25 

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handoffs. 
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He played. 
He played 42 snaps. 

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Rashad White played 42 snaps. 
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Rashad White ran 22. 
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You definitely want to have him 
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You would love if you have Bucky
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You're saying Alvin Kamar, I got
Bucky Irving, but are you going 

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to be in the fantasy football 
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It's Week 15. 
I don't even know what the 

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Buccaneers play. 
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seven yard line and you're going
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there? 
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Why is Rashad? 
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I don't know, I I think. 
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overtime yesterday a little bit 
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Well, Bucky got hurt on a 
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He got hurt and. 
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on his last run of the game and 
then did not come back in in the

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overtime. 
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said he's going to be fine. 
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person, but they've done this 
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You guys have all done this long
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I love to celebrate the good 
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of us right now. 
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are going to rightfully be like,
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Derrick Henry only plays 57% of 
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We also have to apply that same 
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Sure, but I mean, you got you 
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and Henry was a third round pick
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So it's still still massive. 
It's I I should have more Bucky 

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than I do. 
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don't is because of that line of
thinking of like, well, how's he

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going to displace Rashad White? 
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You know, he's still probably 
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snaps even if he takes the job. 
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such a clear. 
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good? 
He's running all over the 

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defense while Rashad White looks
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They're just gonna feature him 
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And snapshare is important, but 
there can be a lot of empty 

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snaps and it's like high value 
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you know? 
So that's obviously a great a 

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great point. 
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about is the way Liam Cohen has 
done this this year is the place

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that he seemed to most go away 
from Bucky is inside the 10 yard

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line. 
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place you're most often going to
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played five snaps and all of 
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situations and and Sean Tucker 
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because he fumble last week. 
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gone to 0, the coaching staff 
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should bring him back in a 
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Well, that's that's what you 
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I think, is that Tucker gets a 
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little banged up because Tucker 
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Tucker. 
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Tucker and Bucky are both so 
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White. 
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is that it's not, it's not just 
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you know, I agree with you about
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The fumble kind of unlocked 
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And who knows, maybe they stick,
maybe they stick with Bucky 

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going forward. 
Maybe he's totally fine. 25 

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carries is 25 carries and there 
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The Bucks go Raiders at the 
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believe somehow is still on a 
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I mean, isn't there a don't we 
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Carolina in week 17, the remix. 
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So oh. 
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make this point to the ship 
chasers in the chat who I do 

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love these arguments you guys 
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These are the Derek Henry boomer
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You are you are you got them for
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I'm not, it's, I just, I, I 
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The thing, it just drives me 
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This drives me nuts in every 
facet of life when people are 

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purposefully hypocritical when 
they, when they do the one thing

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and they say these people are 
stupid because they view the 

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data this way, but when I use 
the data this way, I'm a genius.

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I, it drives me, it drives me 
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Obviously Bucky is like giga 
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But when you go look at, go look
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probably no one has good 
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But when you do, you are going 
to be stunned to see Bucky 

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projecting for like 16.7 instead
of whatever chase. 

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Yeah, it it'll be running back 
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this week, though it'll be fine.
You know, listen, didn't you 

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just say just embrace what we're
winning with? 

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That's. 
Kind of yes, but I know. 

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This reminds me of Davis. 
It's, it's the, it's like last 

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year's Cuba. 
It's not Kyra, you know, Chase 

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Brown. 
Is more the Kyra, and this is 

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the very good point. 
But like, people should be happy

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that they found this year's 
Cuba. 

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That's awesome of of. 
Course you should be. 

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I mean, I, I don't even know how
much Bucky I have. 

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I I know I happen to have him on
several of my very high leverage

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teams. 
So I'm like actively rooting for

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him right now. 
Like this breakout is very good 

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for me financially, but I just, 
I, I just encourage everyone, 

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you'll be better at the game. 
You will play better, you'll 

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have better results if you think
through these, if you think 

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they're players you like the 
same way you you think they're 

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players you do not like. 
Well, you're what we're going to

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have to think about is where do 
we take Bucky next year and. 

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That's that's what I was going 
to ask. 

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There we go. 
That's right. 

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I mean. 
That's where I I swing over to 

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your side, Davis. 
Bucky Irving or Christian 

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McCaffrey. 
McCaffrey and and so right there

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I'm I'm going to be priced out 
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What even is it? 
Is it 3rd? 

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4th can't be third. 
What's the highest ETN ever 

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went? 
Bucky Irving is very. 

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Easy. 
He went three fours. 

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Yeah, Yeah, no, this year, last 
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he went into each of the last 
two seasons as kind of the clear

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RB1 in Jacksonville. 
Everybody gave up on tanks Tank 

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Bigsby this year because he had 
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He was in the fourth round this 
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Yeah, he was in. 
What's what's the 3-4 turn the 

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year before? 
OK, Yeah. 

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Can't remember before that 
because he was coming off the 

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injury. 
Yeah. 

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OK. 
So that's I'm. 

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Trying, I'm trying to, I'm 
trying to think of, I'm trying 

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to think of of the highest spot 
that that ETN ever went. 

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But it really does remind me of 
of ET the the the seven games 

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where ETN was good, which feels 
feels like a far cry. 

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But there, there was a time 
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A Well, they also, isn't it 
right that they sort of wore him

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out? 
I mean, they even admitted it 

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last year that by the time we 
got to the fantasy playoffs, ETN

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was like kind of shot. 
And maybe that was also two 

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years ago when they were good. 
The thing about ETN was that he 

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has a cool name and his splash 
plays look really cool. 

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So you think of ETN as like 
this, oh, he's kind of this 

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electric sort of pace and space 
pass catcher. 

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He's never been a good pass 
catcher. 

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He actually is more of like a 
success rate grinder when he's 

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been good, when ETN has been 
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lot of two yard gains in a 4 1/2
yard gains. 

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So it just I he's always kind of
and also he was a great college 

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running back. 
When guys are great in college, 

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it it sticks with them forever. 
As to our point Korean last week

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with Mcnichols like you, when a 
guy is great in college, you you

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can never ever. 
Well, as Saquon Barkley showing 

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us, maybe it should stick with 
us. 

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You know, maybe we should, we 
should stick with those priors a

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little longer because. 
Yeah, it's a flat circle. 

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For a while. 
It's all a flat circle. 

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Wow. 
Pretty good in college and 

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pretty good as a rookie. 
It's it is. 

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It's always Saquon. 
I once voted for Christian 

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McCaffrey to win the Heisman. 
Speaking of good in college and 

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let's just for this year at 
least. 

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Maybe not next year. 
We're already drafting him next 

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year I'm hearing. 
But let's say our goodbyes. 50 

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for two O 2 and 0. 
Lest we forget the 15 for 146 

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and 0 through the air. 
Can we just do a minute or two? 

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I know this the show legally is 
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seconds long, but just sort of a
moment on what McCaffrey feels 

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like now at the one O 1. 
I mean what it feels like is a 

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miss but how wrong were we? 
I don't. 

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I don't think we were that wrong
that we had no reporting any 

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any, any fading of McCaffrey 
would have been the same process

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that would have led you to fade 
Kamara. 

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Basically he. 
Did have an injury though that 

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we. 
Had he had a thing he was 

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working through and he. 
Was fine injury. 

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It wasn't a big deal, it was 
fine, but he was. 

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Working and he had an age. 
He also had an age. 

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I know that that's what's ironic
about this year is all these 

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other mixins and camaras or just
keep going. 

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They don't. 
Need the field, Bill Mixon. 

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Right. 
I think that we, we definitely 

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think through, you know, these 
offenses and these coaches and 

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what they can bring to the 
table. 

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Like, you know, you're getting 
Mcveigh's back. 

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He's, we know one Mcveigh's like
a really sharp guy, but we also 

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know that he like uses the same 
running back all the time. 

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Like it was kind of crazy to see
Blake Horn out there at all 

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yesterday because they just 
tends to play the same guy all 

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the time, right? 
They have tendencies beyond the 

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scheme. 1 of Shanahan's 
tendencies is that he's a 

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fucking liar. 
That's a. 

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That's a tendency, yeah. 
He he, he, he keeps as much as 

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he can from the media at all 
times. 

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I think that was we kind of knew
that. 

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Now this this year, like 
definitely underlined that in a 

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big way. 
But I think we should have known

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enough to be like, let's let's 
treat this this like kind of, I 

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don't know how serious injury. 
We can't get any good reporting 

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on it. 
But he's the one O 1 and 

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Shanahan is sketchy. 
So let's let's not take him one 

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O 1. 
I think it was probably a 

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mistake to keep him at one O 1. 
I know when we did some high 

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stakes drafts with with Co Co 
managers for ship chasing. 

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So these are manage leagues, you
know, we'd be talking through 

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like one O 1 stuff and and we 
got off of McCaffrey there and I

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think in parts like, hey, we're 
doing like this one big draft. 

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Let's let's not like blow it 
with the first pick. 

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And I think at basketball it's 
easier to go well, I'm doing. 

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I'm doing 500 teams. 
Yeah, I want to have my 

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McCaffrey and if it's the one O 
1 like and there's like, I don't

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know the next time, Shannon. 
By the way. 

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I'm dropping him a little bit, a
little. 

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Bit I think I think that's right
because in the context of this 

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year, a healthy McCaffrey, a 
healthy McCaffrey would have 

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been the only way to keep up 
with Barkley teams. 

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He he is the only player. 
Well, I must have just drafted 

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Barkley. 
Unless you just, I mean, yeah, 

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sure. 
I, I just, I, I think that I 

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guess the, the, the if you were,
if we're trying to play better, 

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the lesson would be the 28 year 
old running back does have a 

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lower body injury in the pre 
season. 

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It doesn't matter what the 
coaches say, you should. 

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That's right. 
Take you should take notice of 

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that doesn't matter what the 
coaches say, but if a guy is 

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not, I think just the key is he 
did not practice for weeks. 

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Right. 
Well, right. 

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And we knew that already that it
doesn't matter what the coaches 

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say, right? 
We'd sort of all preach that and

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he was older, but we had, it's 
the other bias. 

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We had just had him destroy us 
the previous year when we also 

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made many of the same arguments 
against an older running back. 

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Was it 2 years ago that it was 
when it was McCaffrey and 

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Jonathan Taylor? 
And it's exactly, I remember 

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what you just said, how, you 
know, I have this many teams, so

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I want to make sure I get both. 
But you know, there were other 

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factors that could have steered 
us away from McCaffrey. 

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I don't know who we were 
supposed to pick though. 

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I mean, other than a diversity 
point. 

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We would have taken CD or Tyreke
I guess, both of which would 

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have been bad picks. 
But I do think, I mean, that 

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part doesn't matter as much to 
me. 

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Like it matters more that like 
we drafted with the one O 1 as a

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group. 
We selected a guy who was like 

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really hurt and didn't play for 
most of the season and then he 

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came back and was not that 
great. 

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Like that's that's kind of bad, 
you know, And I don't know. 

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I mean, like, yeah, we shouldn't
like in that situation, we 

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probably should just be like a 
little bit more cautious, even 

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if the coaches are saying good 
things. 

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I do think like if Dan Campbell 
was like, Nah, he's like totally

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good. 
He'll be out there Week 1. 

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I'd be more inclined to to roll 
with that. 

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I do think there's something 
more like if a dude has a 

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history of kind of hiding stuff 
and the guy's not practicing, we

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should. 
We'll just be a little more 

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cautious, I think, at the one O 
1. 

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He'll go into next year on a 
team. 

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What will be the expectations 
with San Francisco? 

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Like, is Debo there? 
They're older everywhere. 

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Are they going to pay Brock 
Purdy? 

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I don't think he will. 
Go in at. 

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Maybe not. 
Going to be on a different team 

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I think. 
He'll go in at 29, turns 29 in 

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June off 9th, no. 
Debo, Debo. 

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He'll go in with almost 1900 
touches despite his shortened 

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season this year. 
It's kind of sketchy. 

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And I think next year will be in
a landscape where everybody's 

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going to want to, you know, 
pivot to drafting these running 

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backs more confidently. 
I just don't know where it 

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leaves him. 
Man if if CMC is the is the 

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Kamara price next year which I 
don't think he will. 

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Be no, no, I think it'll be very
expensive. 

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It'll it will really depend on 
what this knee injury is. 

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If he has to have a surgery for 
this PCL, if he's if he starts 

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on the pup, like imagine if it's
if it's August, then he's on the

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pup you think he's. 
Going to be like Zeke was a. 

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Chance. 
Sure, but like Zeke was 

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absolutely 100% wide and went in
the fourth round, like hooked 

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and went in the fourth round and
Zeke was never as good the CMC. 

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The more we think about it, the 
worse I I think not being in on 

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Kamara's is truly one of the 
dumbest things I've done. 

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It's one of the dumbest things 
I've done in it. 

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It's so dumb. 
It's so. 

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Absolutely dumb. 
Well, is McCaffrey going to put?

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Me so much more than the Barkley
one, even though the Barkley one

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hurts. 
Yeah. 

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Is McCaffrey going to be our RB2
though? 

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I mean like, are we? 
Drafting, no. 

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No, no fever again and. 
It'll it'll be the RB2 is going 

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to be Ash and gene tea buddy. 
I'm not. 

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I'm not even. 
Oh yeah, yeah, it'll. 

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Be I think Jason will be RB2. 
Bijan's just so like he was. 

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No, I mean, I'm sorry, on our 
belt, like on our rosters. 

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Oh, are we already drafting some
other running back because it's 

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a different season? 
And then McCaffrey comes in 3-4 

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turn or whatever it is and like,
all right, well, he could. 

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He could be back. 
Frank, frankly, I I feel as if 

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I'm not going to learn anything 
from this season and I'm going 

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to draft wide receivers even 
harder. 

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So he probably, he probably will
be. 

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My my widers or my running back 
1:00 on. 

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Teams back one, yeah. 
I think it's tough to think of a

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comp. 
His comps are like guys who 

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played in the 90s. 
His comps are like Marshall 

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Faulk and things like. 
That this is where I should be 

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have. 
This is my moment here. 

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This is my chance to actually 
get a good point from Davis. 

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I could actually. 
Where did I add name? 

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Eckler Eckler's Eckler's a good 
one. 

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Eckler went at the 1-2 turn the 
year after, but he was coming 

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off a Goodyear, but he had 
fallen off some of the 

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peripherals and he went in the 
1-2 turn. 20 touchdowns. 

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Yeah, he yeah, he's coming on an
awesome year, but I don't know 

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that McCaffrey can really get 
outside the third. 

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No, I am checking one that's. 
What? 

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That's what the Jewish 
Mccaffrey's had him at, I think.

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So what I'm checking his cap hit
if he's cut it's not crazy. 

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His his his dead cap number if 
I'm reading this correctly is 

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well never mind he doesn't 
really have an out in his 

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contract until after next 
season. 

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Well, what should they? 
Do the 49ers like that? 

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That doesn't make sense for them
to get rid of them, I don't 

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think. 
What do they do? 

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I mean. 
They should trade Debo. 

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No one, no one will take him, I 
think. 

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I think they should. 
No one will take him. 

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The New England Patriots are 
ready to trade for Debo 

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tomorrow. 
They will trade. 

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It's it's, it's the Amari Cooper
trade, only worse. 

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Like it's just sort of, we'll 
take your money and we'll take 

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the older veteran, but you know,
you're not going to get anything

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from it. 
And then I. 

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Think what else should they do 
from the Patriots. 

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You might be able to get a third
if you you can get 1/3 as long 

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as they get to keep their jobs. 
I I think the. 

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That actually must be saying 
that's fair. 

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By the way, that was not a bid 
or. 

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Anything or. 
A throwback. 

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I I think unironically the 49ers
should just run it back. 

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They should be like, dude, it 
was just a bad year. 

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Trent Williams got hurt, IU got 
hurt, Debo got pneumonia, 

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McCaffrey had an Achilles pretty
injured, his shoulder. 

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It's just a just bad luck. 
I think you just run it back. 

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To be clear, I don't think the. 
Patriots should sign T Higgins, 

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but why not both guys? 
Why not both? 

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Yeah, why not both? 
Why not truly? 

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Why not both? 
They're they're like Keyshawn 

446
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,080
booty is like by far their best 
outside wide receiver. 

447
00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:20,320
Like you got to do something. 
You got to do something. 

448
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,000
You got to do something, 
Keyshawn. 

449
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:27,680
Booty, you guys are an hour or 
three hours behind me, so I'm 

450
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,040
sure you enjoyed the game last 
night. 

451
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,920
The scenes we talked about the 
snow for a second, you know, 

452
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,640
everybody just ran at will. 
Then it became Mason and 

453
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,120
Gorendo. 
Mason 13 carries I think Gorendo

454
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,040
4 but he scored anything we care
about since Mason isn't it or 

455
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,560
did Gorendo's. 
Mason is going to. 

456
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,400
Mason is going to fully round 
trip from best pick and best 

457
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,560
ball to lol can't believe you 
thought you were going to win 

458
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,720
best ball mania because you took
a 49ers running back to best 

459
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,280
pick and best ball. 
Full, full, full round. 

460
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,320
Because he's not going to be 
that high. 

461
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,000
He's going to be up like in 
normal advance right now. 

462
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,200
Normal advance rate. 
Yeah, it's pretty good. 

463
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,520
He's a pretty amazing pick. 
I have him on a team that like I

464
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,920
have him on a 555 that's 
advancing and like doesn't have 

465
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,000
any running backs. 
I think he has like Rashad 

466
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,600
White, like there's nobody on 
it. 

467
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,680
But but I was like, if I get if 
Eno Benjamin comes to life, I'm 

468
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,520
I'm cooking with this 5 by 5 
team. 

469
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,960
That was my quote, actually. 
Yeah, it has. 

470
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,800
Eno Benjamin comes to life. 
Look out. 

471
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:29,480
Yeah, I want to look up the 
49ers playoff odds while you're 

472
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:30,640
talking. 
What do you think they are? 

473
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,600
You know, that's funny, I said. 
You know, Benjamin, but I 

474
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,480
actually meant Trey Benson. 
Trey Benson. 

475
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,560
And they're just the same. 
Wow. 

476
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,600
Yeah, they are the same. 
I'd rather have Eno on that team

477
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,880
I think, than Trey. 
The I don't care what? 

478
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,520
I don't care what the 49ers odds
are. 

479
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,960
The 49ers odds are zero there. 
There's no shot. 

480
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,080
OK, well. 
They're, they're, they're fourth

481
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,520
in, they're fourth in their 
division and they have two games

482
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,960
that they, they, they have one 
game that is completely 

483
00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:02,600
unwinnable. 
I, I what, what are the Lions be

484
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,880
favored in San Francisco? 
They're gonna be, they're gonna 

485
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,600
be favored by 9 1/2 or. 
Something it depends what they 

486
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,280
need. 
You know, it's still, that's 

487
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,240
week 17, isn't it? 
Do we know that one like doesn't

488
00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:16,440
depend on what but the division?
Campbell's like, who cares about

489
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,640
winning today, Yeah. 
Purdy. 

490
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,640
Purdy is is legitimately 
injured. 

491
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,040
I mean, that's the thing. 
If Purdy, if Purdy was healthy, 

492
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,680
sure, whatever. 
But Purdy is out there like 

493
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,520
gritting and grinding through 
like a separated shoulder. 

494
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:35,040
There's there's no chance. 
Well, nothing for the the 

495
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,240
Buffalo vibes. 
Come on. 

496
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,840
I mean, here we are. 
This is one this is my third 

497
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,400
week, I think with you guys and 
we talked about the one seed a 

498
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,640
couple of times. 
Seth Walter at ESPN Davis has it

499
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,680
as a coin flip with the Chiefs. 
A game ahead Chiefs. 

500
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,040
I am, I am rooting, I am rooting
for the Bills to get the one 

501
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,240
seed that is better for the way 
that I want to play playoff 

502
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,800
contest than like do you like 
getting the Chiefs to not have a

503
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:06,360
buy and getting 10th round like 
Noah Gray every time I'd sign me

504
00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:08,080
up for that. 
That's that's what I want. 

505
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,640
I would prefer to fade expensive
Bills players and load up on 

506
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,320
getting. 
How many? 

507
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:14,920
Yeah. 
I don't know. 

508
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,800
I think this week, this week, 
I'm just going to draft like 

509
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,400
bills are getting the buy and 
try to get as many bills as I 

510
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,960
can without them being overly 
expensive, but then also plan 

511
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,080
for them to have the buy. 
I don't, I'm not going to get 

512
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,520
greedy. 
I don't think they're getting 

513
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,480
the buy. 
The Chiefs are dying to lose 

514
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,360
these games. 
They're dying to lose. 

515
00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:37,480
They're, they're like, they're 
like actively, they're like, 

516
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,320
please, Sir, please, just will 
you beat us? 

517
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,800
Please, we're begging you. 
Will you do anything like 

518
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,280
they're, they're, they're 
gluttons. 

519
00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:47,720
I mean, they're so bad. 
They are so bad, so bad. 

520
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,120
I, I'm to the point now where I 
no longer think it's like a, an 

521
00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:56,320
effort for a Patriots thing 
where it's like we're so great 

522
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,520
we can't even get up for these 
games. 

523
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,440
I just think, I just think part 
of it is Nagy where he's just 

524
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,760
not very good at his job. 
Big part of it is Kelsey cannot 

525
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,560
move anymore. 
Kelsey can still do you, you 

526
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,160
actively see it. 
He can do, he can get open every

527
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,800
play, but he gets open about 8 
yards away. 

528
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,080
He can't do because when you, 
when you think in your mind's 

529
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,680
eye like what's the Kelsey play?
It's he's wide, he's wide open 

530
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:24,480
when he's he's wide open 11 
yards down the field and then he

531
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,640
runs. 
Then he gets like 30 yards. 

532
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,080
He turns around. 
He he, he makes a safety net. 

533
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,800
He can't do, he can't do any of 
that. 

534
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,200
He as Mark Kurtazel says, he is 
in his Zacharitz era. 

535
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,120
He's in his catch and fall down 
era, yeah. 

536
00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:43,080
Yeah, he's he's fourth worst in 
Yak score this year, but he's 

537
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:48,120
like 5th best in 8th best in 
open score. 

538
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:49,040
That's exact. 
That's. 

539
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,520
Exactly the player. 
He is. 

540
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:53,880
It's so funny. 
He's he's one behind Zach Ertz, 

541
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:59,520
an open score, but Zach Ertz is 
second worst in Yak score. 

542
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,000
So it is. 
It's literally he's become Zach 

543
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,160
Ertz. 
And also like, could we just get

544
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,320
one accurately thrown deep pass 
from Pat just like just one, 

545
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,000
just one that that is in an area
where Xavier Worthy can corral 

546
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,240
it? 
It's getting like that's the 

547
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,240
other thing. 
I'm not going to criticize Pat 

548
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,120
too much because they're 11:00 
and 1:00 and. 

549
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,640
That is fair, That is fair. 
Did you did you see like the the

550
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,440
touchdown throw he made to 
Justin Watson, like when he 

551
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,600
released it? 
It's like no one, no one's doing

552
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,040
that. 
Like, he's still great, 

553
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,800
obviously, but the deep throws, 
man, they're really, really, 

554
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,160
really. 
Bad the one play I'm thinking of

555
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,080
was a pass to the right sideline
on Friday where it might have 

556
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,240
been a 20 or 25 yard pass and 
it's like misses over his head 

557
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,280
he. 
Just misses worthy, yeah, don't 

558
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:47,880
you? 
Don't you? 

559
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,760
Wonder if there is a worthy 
component to that. 

560
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,080
I mean is he supposed to take 
that angle differently? 

561
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,760
Because how does you? 
You want worthy to get more open

562
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,400
than no defender in the. 
Are you questioning Xavier 

563
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,800
Worthy's attention to detail? 
I'm just, I'm just trying to 

564
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,240
keep the conversation moving, 
that's all. 

565
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,840
I'm no. 
No, weirdly, weirdly. 

566
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,680
I. 
I the last like 3 weeks I've 

567
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,320
been like, yeah, Worthy is bad, 
but like these are not these 

568
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,880
miscues are not his fault. 
These are these are mostly on on

569
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,920
Pat. 
I I kind of like having worthy 

570
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,320
going forward here. 
I mean, I want to start them. 

571
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,560
It's it's Sunday night against 
LA by the way, to the Chiefs 

572
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,600
Bills discussion. 
The Chiefs are a four point 

573
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,920
favorite Sunday night against 
the Chargers, who may or may not

574
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,840
have Mcconkey in that game. 
The Bills are a four point 

575
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,960
favorite at the Rams. 
That that is going to be that 

576
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,000
Chargers Chiefs is going to be 
one of the most unwatchable slop

577
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,760
fests you've ever seen. 
And you're just like Samaj P 

578
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,240
Ryan and Gus Edwards trading 
blows, dude. 

579
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,200
Just just some of the worst shit
you can imagine. 

580
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:59,280
We got to have some snow then. 
It's really we can't have Dome, 

581
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,280
we can't have this in a Dome to 
for all for, for no excuses. 

582
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,040
This is just what it is. 
I can't. 

583
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:10,320
The the Chiefs trading away 
Tyreek, like, I know they won 

584
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,520
two Super Bowls, but it does 
feel like a, it feels like a 

585
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,440
real monkey's paw situation. 
Don't you feel like, oh, sure, 

586
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,720
you get your Super Bowl, but 
then this is what you have to 

587
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,600
become. 
You have to become right. 

588
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,440
Right. 
Like you, you play like your 

589
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,160
Ball State on offense. 
I mean, it's just. 

590
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,560
Yeah, I love that you, having 
won two Super Bowls, are still 

591
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,680
interstellar bookcase with. 
With I am no for for me 

592
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,600
personally, it's way worse. 
It's been financially worse for 

593
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,760
me for them to have traded away 
Tyreek Hill and then watch them 

594
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,960
win these Super Bowls. 
Like, yeah, can we just get 

595
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,200
Tyreek? 
You don't want to play for 

596
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,320
Miami. 
Come home, dude. 

597
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,800
What, Davis? 
You know, size it all up. 

598
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,000
You're doing all right. 
I mean, you know, financially 

599
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,880
worse. 
Come on, you've got your 

600
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,040
following. 
You've got us. 

601
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,640
You've got your, you know, your 
family. 

602
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,240
Come on, you've got Oklahoma. 
1-2 Super Bowls. 

603
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,040
You've got your rings. 
You've got your rings. 

604
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,400
I have none. 
Ever you know, the The thing is,

605
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,960
is the and this is going to I 
mean, no one is going to no 

606
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,400
one's going to want to hear 
this. 

607
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,880
The Eagles Super Bowl win 
winning on a Juju Smith Schuster

608
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,320
defensive pass interference. 
Am I really do I even really 

609
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:19,320
remember that game? 
Oh. 

610
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,200
Yes. 
Oh, don't even you do. 

611
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,400
Vividly. 
I don't even I. 

612
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,120
Don't even has has roto that 
would say cut his nose. 

613
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,520
That was a terrible like cut. 
His now the the happy now, I 

614
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,720
would say probably literally the
happiest I've been as an adult 

615
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,960
watching a football game was 
Nicole Hardman scoring a 

616
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:42,960
touchdown in I mean, that was 
just like that was the zenith of

617
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,680
of human experience. 
Like that was, well, watching 

618
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,720
that play, that was that was. 
Incredible, that was. 

619
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,560
Last year, last year when he 
didn't know that it ended the 

620
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,560
game. 
Yes, you did like. 

621
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,440
That added to your. 
That's classic. 

622
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:56,360
You knew it ended the. 
Game. 

623
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,040
I mean, yeah, if Hardman, if 
Hardman had known the situation,

624
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,440
that would have been so out of 
character. 

625
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,880
If he, if yeah, he he. 
There's no way he could have 

626
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,080
pulled it off. 
He just thought they're out, 

627
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,160
we'll just score. 
He would have dropped if he knew

628
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,760
that ended the game. 
He would have dropped it or ran 

629
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,360
the wrong route or committed an 
illegal formation penalty. 

630
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,360
What, 14 lives? 
Like in Buffalo now, Mike, how 

631
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:16,680
how you is? 
It stuck. 

632
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,160
Oh, I mean probably better than 
ever. 

633
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,080
Team of Destiny. 
Yeah, I mean, I hate that stuff,

634
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,000
but people love it. 
I think probably better than 

635
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:32,360
ever because Bills fans this 
year were forced with accepting 

636
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,680
the digs was gone. 
Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer, Trey 

637
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,760
White. 
Like this was supposed to be 

638
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,960
transitioning or the other way 
and now they are 10 and two for 

639
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,200
the first time since the Kelly 
teams and they just look so much

640
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,440
better than Kansas City. 
Baltimore has five losses. 

641
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,640
They might not look better than 
Baltimore, but they have 5 

642
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,640
losses it kind of looks like. 
Line is so bad that even I, as a

643
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:02,320
very casual ball mower, know 
that it's like they cannot win a

644
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,320
Super Bowl unless they change 
their protections. 

645
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,320
OK, so maybe we've got snow 
games. 

646
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,680
They've won seven straight since
losing to the Ravens and Texans 

647
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,000
back-to-back, and you've got 
Sean McDermott and Josh Allen 

648
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,120
doing snow angels. 
What's maybe different about my 

649
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:28,000
world as a local sports radio 
host is like, especially when 

650
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,880
the team is good, when they're 
bad, they sort of with you. 

651
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,400
When they're good, they push 
back against any sort of 

652
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,800
critical thinking or analysis or
any observation that isn't sort 

653
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,520
of go bills. 
So a few weeks ago they're 

654
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,640
playing like maybe six or seven 
weeks ago now they played 

655
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,200
Tennessee and they didn't look 
good at all. 

656
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,800
They're struggling. 
It's 2 minute warning and they 

657
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,160
run the clock down to the 
two-minute warning, which is not

658
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,920
what you want to see. 
Alan comes to the sideline. 

659
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,840
McDermott is kind of walking in 
the direction sort of they're 

660
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,320
going to dissect and they both 
sort of jerk their heads the 

661
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,720
other way, like would you would 
not do in a normal situation if 

662
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,560
you were sort of like working 
together and so. 

663
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,120
Yeah. 
Weird. 

664
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,440
So I, I tweeted that and now 
it's sort of like back in the 

665
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,720
circulation because they're 
doing snow angels and they're 

666
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,120
winning. 
I mean, I think I, I had a 

667
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,840
point. 
All I'm trying to do is bring 

668
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,440
out stuff like that and make it 
interesting, but. 

669
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,920
On the scale of like like, how, 
how close was it to Aaron 

670
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,480
Rodgers shoving Solo away? 
Not that close at all. 

671
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,400
No, I definitely I definitely 
wasn't thinking like that, but 

672
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,400
why would there be such a 
disconnect? 

673
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,600
And I don't know, I just thought
it was interesting in the moment

674
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,760
and here we are. 
They haven't lost since and you 

675
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,280
know, all is good. 
I think the vibes really are, 

676
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,840
though better than ever because 
Kansas City looks so bad. 

677
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,800
It's funny how it's incredible 
how bad they look and they're 

678
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,520
winning all these games the way 
they are. 

679
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,800
So I mean this is. 
This is it. 

680
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,560
Like they, they look so bad that
you forget about how bad they 

681
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,400
looked before. 
You know, like the fact that 

682
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,640
they really should have lost to 
the Raiders. 

683
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:04,960
Yeah. 
It's like, you keep. 

684
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,680
It's like, oh, yeah. 
And they were bad the week 

685
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,440
before as well. 
So I I don't know. 

686
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,520
I mean, I, I suppose they could 
just kind of keep this rolling 

687
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,639
until they get the bye. 
But if the Bills get the two 

688
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:19,040
seed, they're most likely to 
play who? 

689
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,719
Denver. 
Well, that's interesting too. 

690
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:25,600
So Seth Walter today that I 
mentioned this, he has it as a 

691
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:31,080
67% chance at ESPN that there 
will be at least one nine win 

692
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:37,600
AFC playoff team that could end 
up being Houston as the AFC S 

693
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,040
winner or it could be 
Indianapolis or Miami or even 

694
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,199
the Browns. 
I mean, that would be 

695
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:45,199
incredible. 
Denver, one of those teams. 

696
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,880
I don't know. 
What's Baltimore at this point, 

697
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,600
8 and five. 
I think you'd want to avoid that

698
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:54,800
if possible. 
So that's the difference. 

699
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,760
The Bills have had, You know, 
the Chiefs had it when they 

700
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,640
played Roethlisberger. 
The Bills have had as the two 

701
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,800
seed. 
I mean, who have they faced? 

702
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:08,400
Mason Rudolph last year, Skyler 
Thompson, Mac Jones, Rivers, 

703
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,160
Actually in four years they've 
had that first home playoff game

704
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,280
and those are the quarterbacks 
they faced and they've gotten 

705
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,520
beaten 3 of the next 4. 
But anyway, your question was, 

706
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,800
what does it feel like? 
It feels great. 

707
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,920
Yeah. 
I mean, so do you, what do you 

708
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:28,440
think about like they look so 
bad against like the Ravens and 

709
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,920
stuff and you kind of like what 
do you think happened? 

710
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,720
Dalton Kincaid got hurt. 
Yes, no is. 

711
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,240
That real? 
Not well. 

712
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,000
It's always been Davis. 
It's always looked really forced

713
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,640
every. 
Every Kincaid target is the most

714
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,560
tortured Sean Payton ass. 9 guys
have to move a blocker has to go

715
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,800
here, Alan has to roll here. 
Like, you know, it's just, it's,

716
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,960
it's got to be, it's, it's has 
to be so brutal to get Kincaid 

717
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,520
A6 yard slant. 
Did they have the draft capital 

718
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,600
investment? 
So he's missed the last two 

719
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,960
games. 
I mean, Cooper isn't even 

720
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,200
happening happening either. 
I, I don't know what, what, what

721
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,920
to think. 
I mean, they're, they're having 

722
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,680
a joyride. 
This year. 

723
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,360
Is it is it? 
Is there? 

724
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,640
Are we to Dalton Kincaid, Lucas 
Kroll, Spider Man meme 

725
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,400
territory? 
No. 

726
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,640
You. 
You know what, you know what it 

727
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,080
is Kincaid. 
Kincaid is is just like Pitts. 

728
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,400
He just does like he he can't 
quite do what you need to do to 

729
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,240
be a dominant target volume 
tight end. 

730
00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:30,040
But as a coaching staff, you 
invested in it. 

731
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,000
So you want to get him the ball 
instead of just having him play 

732
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,200
tight end instead of just, 
instead of just like, you know, 

733
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,400
when Noah Fant looked the best 
when he got traded to Seattle 

734
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,920
and they forgot that they spent 
the 12th overall pick on him. 

735
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:44,320
Or whatever. 
You when? 

736
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,320
When you forget. 
You play about half the time. 

737
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:50,840
Exactly. 
Play about 45% of the snaps. 

738
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,440
Play when it's a good spot for 
you. 

739
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,280
Get the ball when you're open. 
Not not have to do. 

740
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,680
Oh shit, this would have been 
really funny if I forgot the 

741
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,880
name. 
You know, the, the you don't 

742
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,680
have to develop a, a Roon 
Goldberg machine to get Dalton 

743
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,640
Kincaid the ball. 
You know, like you just yeah, he

744
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,280
should be in a, he should be in 
the timeshare with Dawson Knox. 

745
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:14,240
He is. 
Sorry, he is. 

746
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:18,160
I mean, that's that's really 
what it's been kind of his whole

747
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,520
career since he's gotten here. 
When Knox is healthy, Yeah. 

748
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,240
Want to talk? 
Want to talk about Bryce Young? 

749
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,880
Yes, yes I do. 
I do too. 

750
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,360
So it's Week 14, which is the 
end of the underdog regular 

751
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,280
season, but also big, big week 
in FFPC. 

752
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:41,200
Obviously I've got one where the
bye I lose Richardson, a final 

753
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,360
where I have to decide between 
Bryce Young at Philadelphia and 

754
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,440
Cooper Rush Monday night against
the Bengals. 

755
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,600
Oh, I think you go Cooper rush 
man, the the Bengals, the 

756
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:58,000
Bengals are are are actively 
quitting like the Jamar Chase 

757
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,800
quote yesterday. 
I've never heard someone say 

758
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,360
this about their defense before.
Jamar Chase said we're planning 

759
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,040
like we have to score every time
on offense. 

760
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,840
The the subtext there being our 
defense is not interested in 

761
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,640
generating a stop at all, which 
is true. 

762
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,160
They can't pat move that game 
off Monday night because of The 

763
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,000
Simpsons. 
Do you know that like it? 

764
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,800
It's 2 pretty bad records. 
The Bengals? 

765
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,440
They did they. 
Did I mean they they did. 

766
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,200
A bunch of. 
Animation, They did a bunch of 

767
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,240
animation, but like they have 
like like like Dan Dan 

768
00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:35,960
Castellaneta and, and, and oh, 
what's, what's Lisa's name? 

769
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,040
I, I, whatever. 
They basically they've done a 

770
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,600
bunch of animation and 
voiceovers and stuff. 

771
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,200
They spend a bunch of money on 
it so. 

772
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,600
They can't. 
Flex it. 

773
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,200
Are you doing like a, like a 
Nickelodeon Simpson? 

774
00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:46,200
Oh, they're not. 
Simpson Exactly. 

775
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:50,000
Oh. 
My God, you know, well, there's 

776
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,800
going to be a lot of I guess the
Homer don't will come in handy 

777
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,200
there any of that on DNS. 
I love it. 

778
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:02,360
I mean Cincinnati Davis. 
I just, I mean, such a huge 

779
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,960
Simpsons fan. 
Like, I, I love it and I, I like

780
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,040
animation's hard work, man. 
The the idea, the idea that the 

781
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,680
Bengals and the Cowboys would be
such ass that this game becomes 

782
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,400
like unwatchable slop when all 
these people work so hard to 

783
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,240
make this stuff happen is so 
funny. 

784
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,120
So I know. 
Well, this is not about Bryce 

785
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,080
Young. 
So what are we seeing here? 

786
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,600
Is it not pretty incredible that
you have two quarterbacks, 

787
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,040
second year high end or high 
pick quarterbacks, if not also 

788
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:34,720
high end together that both got 
basically shunned? 

789
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,080
You know, we're done. 
And a lot of the take away was 

790
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,840
with Richardson and with Bryce 
Young. 

791
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,520
Like this is over already. 
I don't know how you guys felt 

792
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:47,680
necessarily, but here we are a 
month or two later and they're 

793
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:53,640
both on their feet at least. 
Yeah, I think they both probably

794
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:58,000
are done in the sense of like 
job security moving forward, 

795
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,720
what plant like team planning, 
Like, what are you, what are you

796
00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:03,520
doing in the offseason? 
Are you trying to like add a 

797
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,880
quarterback that could 
realistically become the starter

798
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,960
if this guy falters again, which
he probably will. 

799
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:16,320
So yeah, I mean, like Dalton, 
the problem for for moving away 

800
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,600
from these guys is that the 
veterans in both cases, the play

801
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,240
got pretty bad. 
Dalton's play fell off, then he 

802
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,360
gets in a car accident. 
Flacco's play absolutely 

803
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,040
cratered. 
So you kind of they the coaches 

804
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,560
didn't have a choice really, but
to kind of like in the in 

805
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,920
Canales's case, leave young in 
because he comes back in plays 

806
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,480
pretty well. 
And it's like, well, this is 

807
00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:40,160
basically what we're getting 
from Dalton. 

808
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,240
So we got to leave him in now. 
And with Richardson, they had to

809
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,960
they had to go back to him 
because Flacco was just playing 

810
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,280
too bad. 
And you're going to get yourself

811
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,040
fired because you played Joe 
Flacco too much. 

812
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,240
Like that's just doesn't make 
sense. 

813
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:51,800
So. 
You talk about the coaches not 

814
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,680
having a choice. 
That may be literally true when 

815
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:58,120
it came to Indianapolis and you 
know, Carolina, there's no 

816
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,560
season to care about. 
All they they should care about 

817
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,440
is the player where Indianapolis
is a game out at this point. 

818
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,040
And we like their schedule. 
It was Detroit last week, but 

819
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,680
they play only close games and 
they've got it pretty easy going

820
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,280
forward. 
Thoughts on Davis, thoughts on 

821
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,720
Richardson? 
We've talked about him each 

822
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:17,640
week. 
And you were ready to trade him 

823
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,640
after that jet game. 
I don't know, like, is it any 

824
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:20,720
different? 
No. 

825
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,840
He still is not a consistent 
passer, right? 

826
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,640
Like you, just like I probably 
of of all the people that exist 

827
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,480
on a continuum of Richardson, 
I'm probably on the closer to 

828
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,560
the side of being positive on 
him because there are so many 

829
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,720
people who are so anti 
vehemently he can't play. 

830
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,720
I also think that internally the
Colts are discussing their 

831
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:46,040
options. 
They're thinking about what they

832
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,080
can do the the very interesting 
thing about this quarterback 

833
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,560
class and maybe I, I guess this 
will be a classic like that's 

834
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:53,800
what people say and then it 
never happens. 

835
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,160
It's a shitty quarterback class.
I would be very surprised if any

836
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,920
of these guys, even Cam Ward 
goes top 10. 

837
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,440
Cam Ward is is. 
I'm like watching stuff like 

838
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,040
draft stuff now and I'm like 
mock draft stuff. 

839
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,200
It seems like we're going to 
potentially get like three of 

840
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,560
these guys in the top 10. 
Car yeah, Carson Carson Beck, 

841
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,680
shudder Sanders and and Cam 
Ward. 

842
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,960
I I would if I was a a fan of a 
bad team. 

843
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,040
I I would not shudder would be 
the one I'd be most interested 

844
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,600
in just because I think there's 
more to work with there. 

845
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,520
But it's not the point of what 
we're talking about. 

846
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:33,680
The point is, I think the Colts 
are would be discussing their 

847
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:38,760
options because Richardson, I 
think they've already proven 

848
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,040
with the benching, the 
organizational buy in on 

849
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,080
developing this guy in playing 
the style of football. 

850
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,160
You need to play to win. 
They they, it's like in the NBA,

851
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,280
if you're going to tank, you 
can't tank halfway. 

852
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,800
You got to everyone. 
The coaches got to buy in. 

853
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,520
The players have to know the 
deal, the front office has to 

854
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:57,960
know the deal. 
And then when there's one 

855
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,440
dissension in the ranks and then
there's camp starts to form. 

856
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,840
Like you get the sense that in 
the Colts building, there's 

857
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,480
probably Richardson people and 
anti Richardson people. 

858
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,360
And it's kind of an eternal 
power struggle between who's 

859
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,040
going to win and Steiken is is 
probably talking out of both 

860
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,080
sides of his mouth to the GM and
to the owner and everything. 

861
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:18,720
And like, once you get there, 
it's all it's already over, man.

862
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:23,720
You know what I'm saying? 
If removing the politics and 

863
00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:26,360
whatever the front office is 
saying and whatever, to whatever

864
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,120
extent that matters, I know what
this is going to sound like. 

865
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:33,560
I'm going to have my moment like
this where like, but Alan's 

866
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,240
career, right? 
I mean, didn't play high level 

867
00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:40,640
college football, was 
athletically gifted, but kind of

868
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,720
a mess. 
And then it was year three, 

869
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:45,720
like, OK. 
And he settled down and he 

870
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,880
became like he's an all time 
great already, I think. 

871
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,440
And Richardson has played less 
football than that. 

872
00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:55,240
And they're in it. 
I don't see any way where he's 

873
00:43:55,240 --> 00:44:00,000
not their QB one Week 1 next 
year at this point. 

874
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,600
And we've talked about how the 
backup might, you might not want

875
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,080
to put the same pressure on him 
if that even matters anymore by 

876
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,560
then. 
So I think Young and I. 

877
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,880
Think they will though. 
I think like a Sam Darnold type 

878
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,600
or something like that. 
I mean, maybe Darnold's played 

879
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:18,560
too well to to go there, but 
like Darl? 

880
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,480
Was going to like start the NFC 
Conference championship game and

881
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,240
no one, no one's going to want 
him, which is just so funny. 

882
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,680
But I think they they you can't 
draft somebody, you can't 

883
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,720
restart, you can't take like 
another top, you know, even 

884
00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:33,880
first round quarterback, I think
they probably can't get away 

885
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,200
with. 
But I think they almost have to 

886
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,360
bring in somebody as 
competition. 

887
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,600
Although I was I was listening 
to NFL Stock Exchange and Connor

888
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,040
Rogers made a point that I wish 
I'd considered more thoroughly 

889
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,880
this summer. 
He said he was talking to Chris 

890
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,720
Sims and was like asking him 
about the shoulder injury that 

891
00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:52,080
Richardson had and how much that
would have set him back in the 

892
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,560
offseason in terms of like 
developing for a guy that hasn't

893
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:59,720
had that many reps like, yeah, 
that probably that probably 

894
00:44:59,720 --> 00:45:02,640
hurts. 
I do think with Richardson, like

895
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:06,960
there is some sliver of hope 
that like he just has not played

896
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,880
much quarterback in his entire 
career dating back to Florida. 

897
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,480
So maybe he actually does kind 
of learn on the job. 

898
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:18,280
He he's still under like 600 
drop backs dating back to being 

899
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,720
17 years old. 
And not to say he's going to 

900
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:24,000
become some amazing passer, but 
like, he, he's basically Cam 

901
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:29,680
Newton, right? 
And the the question is which 

902
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,080
year, right? 
Cam Newton when? 

903
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,880
Because it Cam Newton late stage
patriots. 

904
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,160
I I have a better? 
Comp. 

905
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,280
From Newton a little earlier. 
So I have a better comp that's 

906
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,880
going to sound insanely 
derogatory, but I don't mean it 

907
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:47,840
that way. 
He's he's Tebow where he can. 

908
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,120
I literally said to Gretsch this
summer during a draft. 

909
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,320
I guess he's not Tebow dude, but
I you might be right. 

910
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:53,040
He might actually be. 
Tebow. 

911
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,360
No. 
Tebow never had the arm like 

912
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,240
Richardson has. 
The he sitting on his knees. 

913
00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:00,760
He can toss it 80 yards, you 
know, like he, he's incredible. 

914
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,960
I mean, we saw the 80 Mitchell 
dropped like it was in the 

915
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,800
bucket, just like a perfect 50 
yard. 

916
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,480
Touch every week. 
Every week. 

917
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,480
Yeah. 
Well, some of the some of the 

918
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,280
misses have been on on 
Richardson. 

919
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,920
That one was on Mitchell 
clearly, I think. 

920
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,080
Yeah, Mitchell was kind of lazy 
that he just like, oh, here's a 

921
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,800
ball, I'll catch it. 
Yeah, you got it, You got it. 

922
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,160
You have to press the triangle 
for the aggressive catch, not 

923
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,720
the axe. 
Yeah, catch, I mean. 

924
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,280
Come on. 
He acted like he was in 

925
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,080
practice, Like, come on, man. 
No, it was, it was really 

926
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,440
annoying. 
Do we owe Quin Years an apology 

927
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,840
for, you know, 80, Mitchell and 
Xavier? 

928
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,960
Worth worthy. 
Worthy, Terrible Mitchell. 

929
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,080
Terrible get on the field. 
Jatavian Sanders, you know, 

930
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,360
getting Out, produced it by 
Tommy Tremble. 

931
00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:46,920
No, Sanders getting hurt was 
bad. 

932
00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:49,200
I liked, I liked how that was 
trending. 

933
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,680
Look at what's happening with 
that offense, Thielen. 

934
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,240
I mean Sanders against the 
Chiefs, Tommy Trumbull. 

935
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,600
Played 100% of the Carolina 
Panthers offensive snaps 

936
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,400
yesterday. 
But Sanders is out. 

937
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,200
No, Yeah. 
I mean, I liked how that was 

938
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:05,000
going. 
It does. 

939
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,160
So Tim's saying that Mitchell 
being bad is is really bad. 

940
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,200
Mitchell be. 
If Mitchell was good, I actually

941
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:14,320
do think he would be like he is 
a a perfect type person because 

942
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,640
he can get open deep. 
Mitchell's like getting open 

943
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,280
non-stop. 
He's just he. 

944
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,440
He literally, he literally leads
the NFL in, in all the look at 

945
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,840
any of your open stuff, the the 
fantasy point stuff, the open 

946
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,400
score. 
Stops second to Malik Neighbors 

947
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,760
in open score. 
For for a while he was number 

948
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,960
one in targets per route run. 
He probably isn't after 

949
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:37,240
yesterday, but I mean you you 
just like he is insanely good. 

950
00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:41,240
He just and where the he's a. 
Good at stuff, he's. 

951
00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:42,920
Good at some things, Yeah, 
that's things. 

952
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,240
They're both kind of good at 
some things, not good at 

953
00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:46,800
everything. 
So yeah, we're officially 

954
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:47,720
apologizing. 
Quinn. 

955
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:49,240
Yours. 
Who's another one of these 

956
00:47:49,240 --> 00:47:51,040
shitty quarterbacks who's going 
to get overdrafted? 

957
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,400
Like these shitty quarterbacks. 
I mean to ask you, Davis, about 

958
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,440
about Millroe. 
How bad is Millroe? 

959
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,840
So you're going to, you're going
to love him. 

960
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,640
You're going to love him. 
Well, because I was looking and 

961
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,720
I was like, if this guy's a top 
ten pick, it's basically the 

962
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:08,560
Anthony Richardson bet again, 
which I will make. 

963
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,400
Yeah, I'm going to make that 
best, hopefully a little 

964
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,280
cheaper. 
So there's in, depending on the 

965
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,560
way you look at it, like Milro, 
there's a little bit more to 

966
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,680
hang your hat on in terms of 
like he's had some insanely good

967
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,920
moments in college football 
where he's made like, like truly

968
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,320
like, duh, like dug into the 
depths of his soul to to win 

969
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,000
Alabama some games. 
Then he's also had some games 

970
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,400
where you're like, I literally 
cannot imagine this guy even 

971
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,200
being a day three pick. 
Like the idea that this guy. 

972
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,000
This downside looks like Willis 
esque like Malik Willis. 

973
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:40,640
Terrible. 
Yes. 

974
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,000
Yeah, like, like he does. 
So Richardson had you're like, 

975
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,960
he was super inaccurate, but he 
didn't take sacks. 

976
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:50,360
So you're like he's, you know, 
you're not going to kill drives 

977
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,000
with sacks and mistakes so much.
He's just going to like miss a 

978
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,240
ton of throws which made him 
the. 

979
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,920
Kind of millro. 
Millro has like every negative 

980
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,200
trait you. 
Can right like Millro looks a 

981
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,560
lot like Malik Willis to me in 
the way that's scary. 

982
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,920
He eats sacks, his time to throw
is too long. 

983
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,120
He's not particularly accurate. 
I I will say cost adjusted. 

984
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:13,840
I imagine I'm probably going to 
be a millro bull because so many

985
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,000
people are going to miss the 
forest for the trees. 

986
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,360
If you're OK hearing that, then 
I'm probably going to have a 

987
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,800
bunch of mill rope because I was
hoping, I was honestly hoping 

988
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,680
you were going to give me a 
reason to like not be in, but 

989
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,680
I've seen him. 
He he, he cratered like a couple

990
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,560
weeks ago, right? 
People, people, people hate him.

991
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,360
Matt. 
No, people hate him. 

992
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,720
People hate. 
I don't know, like you're seeing

993
00:49:35,720 --> 00:49:37,480
him in the chat right now, like 
everyone's like these dudes. 

994
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,760
He's he's taste him. 
I'll he's terrible. 

995
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,120
He's ass. 
Like, I think he's probably 

996
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,160
better than that. 
Jason Hill out for the season, 

997
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,000
by the way, confirmed while 
we've been talking. 

998
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,480
Well, let me, let me let me tell
you as someone with 58% of him 

999
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,040
on DraftKings, I I'm really not 
enjoying that. 

1000
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,840
No, me neither. 
Richardson and Young both, I 

1001
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,280
think clearly their team's Week 
1 starter, what kind of pressure

1002
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,920
they put in terms of who the 
backup is behind them, the same 

1003
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,640
or less based on what they each 
did this year. 

1004
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,800
And maybe a situation like 
Wensonhurst or Hertz rather, 

1005
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,960
where a team like the Colts, 
yeah, drafts a quarterback round

1006
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,560
3 or 4. 
And they? 

1007
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,440
Just develop them on the back. 
I just wrote that up Mike in in 

1008
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,000
the stuff over my Patreon today 
talking about the the Panthers. 

1009
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,560
Like, I think you probably don't
take a quarterback with your 

1010
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,320
first 3 picks, like your, your, 
your day one and two picks. 

1011
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,680
But you really should take a 
developmental guy. 

1012
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,320
You, you really should take a 
round 5A Bailey. 

1013
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,720
You should have a Bailey zappy, 
you know, you, you really 

1014
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:47,320
should. 
Because if your season goes to 

1015
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:52,600
pot, which I think rightly, they
should run back Bryce Young 

1016
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,840
again, don't you think so, Pat? 
Like they should just be like, 

1017
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,400
well, maybe they should. 
Honestly, no. 

1018
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,600
I, I, if I, if you put me in 
Dave Canales's shoes, I'm like, 

1019
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,280
and if, you know, guys are ready
to get rid of their car, I'm, 

1020
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,080
I'm seeing if the Falcons are 
ready to get rid of them, their 

1021
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:07,920
cousins. 
What? 

1022
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,000
What? 
You just said. 

1023
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,400
It's one of the most. 
It's one of the most depressing 

1024
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,960
things I've ever I've ever. 
You're not calling the Saints. 

1025
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,760
You're not calling, I'm. 
Calling the Saints. 

1026
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,360
I'm I'm trying to live, man. 
I don't care what happens to 

1027
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,520
this franchise. 
I think keep this job. 

1028
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,880
I. 
Think if I'm Canales today, I 

1029
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,640
feel like this year maybe is 
already kind of a win. 

1030
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,880
Yeah, I agree. 
I I. 

1031
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,000
I agree, Yeah. 
You got two really good games 

1032
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,400
out of Bryce Young when the 
franchise left him for dead. 

1033
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,000
They owe you, dude. 
They owe you no dude. 

1034
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,160
So what's going to? 
Happen though, is you're going 

1035
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,560
to go and you're going to be 
feeling good and then Bryce 

1036
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,400
Young's going to suck next year 
and you're going to get fired. 

1037
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,320
You have to get out of this 
somehow. 

1038
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,160
You got to get what you have to 
do. 

1039
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,160
You got to. 
Get an extension you got what 

1040
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,880
you have to do is you have to be
like all all we could do Bryce 

1041
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,760
Young again you're you're well 
I'm getting a three-year 

1042
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,880
contract extension though. 
Can Alice? 

1043
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:01,920
You know what? 
That's right, you. 

1044
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,920
You get paid. 
You get paid and and and I'll do

1045
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,040
young again, but I'm I'm 
literally making every call not 

1046
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,160
to The Jets, but every other 
call. 

1047
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,920
I'm I'm saying, you know, can I 
get is Rogers a free agent by 

1048
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,360
the way? 
That's no no, OK. 

1049
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,320
Also his 41st birthday. 
So pay your. 

1050
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,080
Respects. 
Come on. 

1051
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,240
Yeah. 
No respects. 

1052
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:21,880
No respects. 
I'm not even calling The Jets, 

1053
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,960
but everyone else gets a call 
and you try to bring in like 

1054
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:26,960
Darnold. 
I think you you. 

1055
00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:29,160
Well, I guess you can if you're 
the Panthers because of the the 

1056
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,880
trauma Canalis has already won. 
This would. 

1057
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,280
Be kind of funny, I'm not sure 
if there's any precedent for it,

1058
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,960
but he's had this cool climb 
where he went from a quarterback

1059
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,720
coach for Geno Smith and like he
was given all the credit for 

1060
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:41,400
that. 
Then he went to the offensive 

1061
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,480
coordinator for Mayfield and he 
got all the credit for that. 

1062
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,600
Then he got to be the head coach
for Carolina. 

1063
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:49,200
It's sort of trending, right? 
Maybe next year he could get 

1064
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,080
that one next promotion to be a 
a head coach for a real team. 

1065
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:55,880
Maybe. 
Oh, no. 

1066
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,960
Come on, come. 
On I mean that nothing for that.

1067
00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:59,960
Come on, this is bad. 
It's embarrassing. 

1068
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:00,360
I was. 
I was. 

1069
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:01,200
I just. 
I was. 

1070
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,600
I was pondering. 
I was pondering how how likely 

1071
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,120
it is. 
I think right. 

1072
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:11,040
I, I, I think the answer is, is 
what I, I, I think I'm right. 

1073
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,600
I think you just get an 
extension if you say you get. 

1074
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,440
I think you are right. 
You get if you're doing. 

1075
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:16,800
If you're if we're doing the 
Bryce Young. 

1076
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:21,360
Thing again you give me an 
extension and I I either eat it 

1077
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,880
or you guys win and me and Bryce
develop this great relationship 

1078
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,560
and I solve it and and the 
offense is great and and we win 

1079
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,000
also the thing you have to 
remember terrible terrible 

1080
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,880
division like truly like nine 
wins could do it in in this 

1081
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:40,080
division so the the bar to clear
very, very like her cousins is 

1082
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,680
is we think I I guess cousins 
loves money too much so he won't

1083
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,640
retire but like Michael Pennix 
is starting for the Falcons next

1084
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,040
year. 
Well, that's what I'm saying. 

1085
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,040
Michael Pennix is starting for 
the. 

1086
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,480
Falcons maybe? 
Cousins is available. 

1087
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,880
You'd rather have Cousins than 
than Bryce Young right now? 

1088
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,880
I'm not saying like to build a 
franchise around. 

1089
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,480
I'm saying I'm trying not to get
fired. 

1090
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,240
Who am I starting at 
quarterback, Cousins or Bryce 

1091
00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:01,880
Young? 
You want to get fired? 

1092
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,200
Why get your extension? 
Then you want to get fired. 

1093
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,680
Canalis is going to coach for at
least three teams. 

1094
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,600
He's young and he only got the 
reputation he's. 

1095
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,920
One card. 
I you're you're wrong. 

1096
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,280
You're wrong. 
Mike's right. 

1097
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,280
You you get fired, you get paid.
Well, except Mike, you don't. 

1098
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,160
Yeah, there's never, there's 
never been a hot name. 

1099
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,760
Who who ended in disgrace that 
never got enough of that you you

1100
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,640
don't get double paid. 
So if you get. 

1101
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,720
Fired from the Panthers. 
You don't get paid by the 

1102
00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:29,480
Cardinals, you know what I'm 
saying? 

1103
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,560
You can't. 
You can't collect both checks. 

1104
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,840
I was saying Cousins would die 
behind the line. 

1105
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,640
Which is probably true. 
I I guess I'm just a long time. 

1106
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,960
I'm trying to convey. 
The desperation for. 

1107
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,320
For understanding that, I just 
don't think that Bryce Young is 

1108
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,760
it Like Bryce Young is still not
the guy. 

1109
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:52,000
And you can probably like, he's 
probably like Teddy Bridgewater.

1110
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,360
Yeah, yeah, right. 
Isn't he Teddy Bridgewater? 

1111
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,440
You know, actually. 
He's not. 

1112
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:04,880
What he is is he's like, he's 
like Jameis dude, like he he he 

1113
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:10,120
plays, he's at his best with 
like he can't be a game manager.

1114
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,440
I remember Pat, you and I talked
about this earlier in the year 

1115
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,720
when he first got bench like the
idea of like, oh, he should get 

1116
00:55:15,720 --> 00:55:18,640
traded to Miami and we talked 
about this and we're like, 

1117
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,440
actually, he's he's not a button
pusher. 

1118
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,440
He's he's. 
Terrible at being a point guard 

1119
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,520
he can't do. 
It what he can do? 

1120
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,960
Is he the, the touchdown to 
Thielen? 

1121
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,760
He, he breaks out of the he, 
well, he steps up in the pocket,

1122
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,240
he sees Thielen break and he 
throws it. 

1123
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,200
You know, like that was like, it
was like, that's kind of what 

1124
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,800
you want him to do. 
You, you do not want him to be 

1125
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,640
Teddy Bridgewater 'cause that's 
when the tippy toes comes in. 

1126
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,360
That's what you can't see. 
You know what? 

1127
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:46,360
I'm Here we go. 
Here we go. 

1128
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,760
You got to trade. 
Trade in the giants get get day 

1129
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,360
ball coach. 
I mean he's kind of Josh Allen 

1130
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,440
really if you think about it. 
You got that same on the move 

1131
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,040
ability he makes or settle down 
he. 

1132
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,600
Makes that play. 30 seconds to 
go in the game for the lead. 

1133
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,320
If they had held the lead, 
they'd still be in it. 

1134
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,760
They'd still be. 
In it, but instead it's Tampa. 

1135
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:10,800
And by the way, we should. 
Give them feeling a little shout

1136
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,200
out for that. 
Oh hey, one of the coolest 

1137
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,000
sketches I've ever seen. 
Almost almost swapped to. 

1138
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,320
To him yesterday on on some 
draftking spots and that didn't 

1139
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,560
do it and I really regret it. 
He's very startable. 

1140
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,720
Isn't, I mean, Philadelphia, but
Dallas, Arizona, Tampa. 

1141
00:56:25,720 --> 00:56:27,480
He's very startable in the 
fantasy playoffs. 

1142
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:34,240
Stealing, yeah. 
Yeah, no, he is and and Bryce. 

1143
00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:36,760
Young, you could kind of, you 
kind of stream him. 

1144
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,640
I don't know Bryce Young or 
Derek Carr the rest of the way. 

1145
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,800
Tim says he's 59, Jordan. 
Love that seems that's that's 

1146
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,200
that's really good. 
Yeah, I think love is more of a 

1147
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,600
button pusher though in a. 
In a way, and I mean that kind 

1148
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:49,480
of complimentary. 
Except. 

1149
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,200
Except love, hate the The thing 
is. 

1150
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:52,840
Love fucking hates to push the 
buttons. 

1151
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,480
You, you, you can see it. 
He's just like, dude, I want to 

1152
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,120
roll out and throw it to 
Octavian Wicks. 

1153
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,040
And he's like, all right, here 
you go, Romeo dogs. 

1154
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:04,200
Like, you know, it's it's so 
funny how much he you, you like 

1155
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,760
that Vikings game where he threw
4 touchdowns and three 

1156
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,000
interceptions. 
Like that is Jordan Love's 

1157
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,720
perfect game. 
Let me, let me I throw for 360 

1158
00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:15,280
yards, 4 tuds and turn the ball 
over as many times as I score. 

1159
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,280
57 minutes. 
Davis, you drafting? 

1160
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,280
After this you had another 
stream starting next. 

1161
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:24,160
No, they I. 
Argued. 

1162
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,480
I tried to talk to my friends at
Underdog Fantasy all morning. 

1163
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,920
The playoff basketball contest 
slate is up. 

1164
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,440
You can see the playoff 
basketball slate. 

1165
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,320
It's up on Underdog, but there 
are no contests live. 

1166
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:41,160
So instead I am going to get I'm
just going to record the take 

1167
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,200
cast early this week and get it 
out of the way so that we can 

1168
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,400
stream for a long time tomorrow 
when I assume they get contests 

1169
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,520
up Pat legendary upside, what's 
up? 

1170
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,040
Playoff best. 
Ball sidekick. 

1171
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,040
Is live. 
Once there's contests, you'll be

1172
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,400
able to use it. 
Check that out at 

1173
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,600
legendaryupside.com. 
We got matter of his quickslant 

1174
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,280
for the Monday Night Football 
game. 

1175
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:10,120
Weekly rankings Dynasty rankings
I walk through every week. 

1176
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:15,240
Still just 10 bucks a month. 
Legendaryepisode.com, Cleveland,

1177
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,600
Denver Tonight. 
Davis missed it. 

1178
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:21,880
He was out on a date, I think. 
But Pat enjoyed joining Ship's 

1179
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:23,360
giving. 
Show's giving. 

1180
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,000
What did you guys end up calling
it from the Sabres game? 

1181
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,920
From an NHL arena? 
I don't want to say it was a 

1182
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,480
little loud. 
Yeah, we called it special for 

1183
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:30,880
that. 
We call it ship's giving, but 

1184
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,280
once you called in, we changed 
it to show's giving. 

1185
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:34,600
We had to get new graphics and 
everything. 

1186
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:35,960
I appreciate that. 
That's fun. 

1187
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,480
Yeah. 
The Bills are 10 and two I. 

1188
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:43,480
Host a daily sports radio show 
in Buffalo at WGR and Odyssey 

1189
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,080
station. 
You can download the app for 

1190
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,880
free. 
That'll be 3:00 to 7:00 today, 

1191
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,520
Eastern Time and all week and 
then Bill's post game. 

1192
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,760
They're at the Rams on Sunday 
and it's been a fun year. 

1193
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,760
So thank you, guys. 
We're a minute early. 

1194
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,240
Is that going to be a problem? 
No problem, no. 

1195
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,720
Get out of here a minute early. 
Let me get the option going. 

1196
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:05,480
We'll see you guys. 
Thanks for watching listening 

1197
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:06,400
talk to you next week.