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The ceasefire nearly broke on 
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Iran fired 2 missiles at AUS 
Navy destroyer entering the 

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Strait of Hormuz, or so Iran 
state media reported. the US 

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denied it. 
The United States confirmed it 

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destroyed at least six Iranian 
fast attack boats during the 

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confrontation. 
Each side denied the other's 

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account in its entirety. 
Only two US merchant vessels 

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crossed the Strait on the first 
day of the guided transit 

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operation. 
Not a return to commercial 

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normalcy, but a test of intent 
and capability. 

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The South Korean operated vessel
caught fire after an explosion 

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in the same waterway. 
The shipping insurance industry 

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said it has no idea how the US 
transit plan is being 

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coordinated with Iran, if at 
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And hours after formally sending
Congress letters declaring that 

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hostilities with Iran have 
terminated under the War Powers 

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Act, Trump stood before a 
Florida audience and said 

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directly. 
You know we're in a war. 

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It is Tuesday, May 5th, 2026, 
day 67 of Operation Epic Fury. 

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Both sides traded fire in the 
Strait of Hormuz yesterday, or 

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traded competing accounts of it.
The ceasefire is intact, a name 

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and under the severest 
operational stress of its four 

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week existence and the gap 
between what is being publicly 

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declared about this conflict, 
hostilities terminated, very 

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positive discussions, confidence
building measures and what is 

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physically happening in the 34 
mile wide waterway that carries 

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20% of the world's oil has never
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consequential. 
This is episode 67 of Epic Fury,

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the US Iran War podcast. 
Follow on Spotify and Apple 

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Podcast to stay with this story 
as it develops. 

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Let's get into it. 
Begin with Monday's 

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confrontation in the Strait, 
because it was the most violent 

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day between the two sides since 
the ceasefire was announced 4 

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weeks ago, and because what 
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the operational reality of this 
conflict in ways that cannot be 

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reversed by morning briefings. 
CENTCOM established what it 

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called an enhanced security area
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shipping lanes on Monday morning
and announced it had begun 

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guiding vessels through the 
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Iran's armed forces responded 
immediately with a published 

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warning. 
Any foreign armed forces, and 

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particularly the aggressive U.S.
Army, will be attacked if they 

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attempt to approach or enter the
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That warning was issued in the 
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By midday, Iranian state media 
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destroyer had been struck by two
Iranian missiles as it attempted

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to enter the Strait in what Iran
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traffic and shipping security. 
U.S. central Command denied 

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categorically that any of its 
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Iranian fire. 
Iran denied the US account of 

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events. the US confirmed it 
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Iranian fast attack boats during
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Iran denied that account as 
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Both governments filed publicly 
incompatible accounts of the 

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same events in the same waterway
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Claims and denials that cannot 
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The specific facts about who 
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and with what result are 
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As of this morning, CENTCOM 
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struck. 
Iran denied the US account of 6 

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destroyed Iranian boats. the US 
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crossed the Strait. 
Iran denied those crossings 

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occurred. 
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competing accounts from 2 
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opposing strategic interests and
how each event is characterized 

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are not equivalently reliable on
every specific claim. 

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But the fact that both sides are
disputing each other's accounts,

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rather than one side 
acknowledging events the other 

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denied, means The public record 
on Day 67 consists of claims 

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denials and the physical reality
that a South Korean vessel 

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caught fire after an explosion 
in the Strait and that the 

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ceasefire has never before 
produced military action of this

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scale between the two parties. 
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The Strait of Hormuz is now an 
active military confrontation 

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zone between the US Navy and the
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Navy, and this confrontation is 
occurring under a ceasefire that

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both sides continue to nominally
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The Enhanced Security area, the 
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Iranian warning, the missile 
claim and its denial, the boat 

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destruction claim and its 
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All of it adds up to a waterway 
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existence is being tested in 
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reality of two armed forces with
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sovereign claims operating in 
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simultaneously. 
CN NS International Diplomatic 

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Editor Nick Robertson reported 
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could hinge on what happens in 
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That assessment from one of the 
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correspondents covering this 
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shared view among analysts 
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The ceasefire has survived 4 
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IRGC seizure of the Tuska, the 
IRGC firing on tankers it had 

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itself previously cleared, 
Iran's 2 written proposals being

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effectively rejected, and the 
April 22nd near expiry resolved 

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90 minutes before the midnight 
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It has never previously survived
a day in which the US and Iran 

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exchanged competing claims of 
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military vessels in the same 
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The guided transit operation 
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ship crossings on its first day.
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traffic, not a return to normal 
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most important oil waterway. 2 
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Iran denied even those two 
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American merchant ships had 
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regime. 
The shipping insurance 

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industry's reaction to the 
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the commercial reality with 
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director of reinsurance at North
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liability insurance for a 
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shipping fleet, told CNN. 
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which countries have asked for 
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how this may be coordinated with
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That is the verdict of the 
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risk of putting commercial 
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The North Standard assessment is
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It is an underwriting decision 
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insurance rates for straight 
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how the US operation is 
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Iran is saying that the risk 
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that allows them to price a 
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No lower premium means no 
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Ships do not route through a war
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insurance. 
Iran is maintaining A sufficient

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perception of risk to keep 
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numbers even under direct 
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maritime security analyst told 
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The perception alone, regardless
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given day, is keeping commercial
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Strait. 
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center of gravity of the straits
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waterway. 
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demonstration. 
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ships through is not evidence 
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the Strait. 
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intent and restoring commercial 
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of the guided transits first day
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to overcome in the days ahead to
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political result it was designed
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Iran is maintaining a perception
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traffic to small numbers, 1 
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CNN. 
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center of gravity of the straits
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A Strait where Iran fires 
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whether or not the destroyer was
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account is accurate, is a Strait
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not returning, insurance rates 
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not routing through the two 
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opening of Hormus. 
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that has not yet produced a 
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The Tuska crew release was the 
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development of Monday, and its 
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what else happened on the same 
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Pakistan flew 22 crew members 
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cargo ship whose engine room the
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April 20th in the Gulf of Oman, 
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Pakistan described the operation
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coordinated with the United 
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The crew will be handed to 
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The Tuska itself remains in US 
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Iran had demanded the immediate 
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crew from the moment of the 
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They called the seizure piracy, 
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violation in letters to the UN 
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The crews released through 
Pakistani mediation does not 

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resolve the Tuska question. 
The ship is still held, but it 

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addresses the immediate human 
dimension of the seizure. 22 

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people who have been in American
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going home through Pakistani 
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That is a real outcome, small, 
specific and human, that both 

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governments were willing to 
coordinate in the middle of a 

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day when their respective naval 
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claims of fire in the same 
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The coexistence of the two Scott
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military confrontation on the 
same Monday morning is the most 

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striking single illustration of 
the wars dual track reality that

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the conflict is yet produced on 
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Pakistan coordinating a crew 
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building measure. 
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participating. 
Iran seafarers coming home on 

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the other track. 
IRGC missiles. 

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US destroyer denials. 6 Iranian 
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Contested accounts across every 
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existence. 
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simultaneously and on the same 
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Neither cancels the other. 
The dual track reality of this 

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war. 
Diplomatic engagement through 

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Pakistan and military 
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not breaking down. 
It is operating in both 

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directions simultaneously at 
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Trump sent formal letters to 
Congress on Friday declaring the

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hostilities with Iran have 
terminated the legal position 

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the administration has taken to 
justify crossing the 60 day war 

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powers deadline without 
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Hours later, speaking in 
Florida, he said. 

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You know we're in a war. 
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we cannot let lunatics have a 
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That juxtaposition, formally 
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hostilities have terminated, 
then telling a Florida audience 

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that, you know, we're in a war 
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register strategy applied to its
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to Congress. 
It is saying this is over the 

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clock, stopped. 
We do not need authorization to 

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its base, it is saying. 
We are in a war, and we. 

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Are winning it. 
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hours of each other on Friday. 
Both were made by the same 

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president. 
Whether the legal formulation or

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the political formulation is the
accurate description of what is 

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happening in the Strait of 
Hormuz on Monday is answered by 

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the question of how you 
characterize Iran firing 

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missiles at AUS warship while a 
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The Washington Post, ABC News 
and Ipsos publish a poll on 

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Friday showing that only 36% of 
Americans believe the United 

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States did the right thing in 
using military force against 

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Iran. 67 days and past the 
ceasefire, past the written 

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proposal exchange, past the 
guided transits contested 

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launch. 
Only one in three Americans is 

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willing to say the use of 
military force against Iran was 

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the right decision. 
That is not a minority fringe 

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position. 
It is a majority of the American

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public that has absorbed 67 days
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increase, a closed straight, 13 
American service members dead, a

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congressional quagmire 
accusation, a war powers 

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deadline crossed and reached the
conclusion that the force was 

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not the right decision. 
Trump responded to the polling 

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by questioning its methodology. 
He said the question was biased 

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against him, that polls on Iran 
are totally fake, and that even 

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a question about whether Iran 
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would not substantially change 
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His skepticism about poll 
methodology is not without any 

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basis. 
The precise wording of questions

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about complex military decisions
does affect responses in ways 

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that are difficult to control. 
But 36% is not a figure produced

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by one outlets idiosyncratic 
methodology if replicated across

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different polling organizations,
and no contradictory poll has 

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been cited by the 
administration. 

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It describes a country in which 
the president is prosecuting a 

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war that the majority of his own
citizens, looking back, do not 

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endorse. 
The Trump administration sent 

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letters to Congress on Friday 
formally declaring the 

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hostilities with Iran have 
terminated the legal claim 

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needed to cross the 60 day war 
powers threshold without 

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authorization within hours. 
Speaking in Florida, Trump said.

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You know we're in a war. 
That juxtaposition, termination 

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of hostilities to Congress, 
acknowledgement of war to a 

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Florida audience, Is the 
administration managing its 

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constitutional exposure and its 
political base through different

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registers simultaneously? 
To Congress, the clock stopped, 

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no authorization needed. 
To the base, the war is ongoing,

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worth fighting, and you know it.
Both statements are politically 

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necessary. 
Neither is fully compatible with

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the other. 
And on Monday, AUS destroyer in 

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the Strait either was or was not
fired upon by Iranian missiles. 

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And either outcome has 
implications for at least one of

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those two positions. 
The 31 Iranian tankers carrying 

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53,000,000 barrels of oil 
trapped in the Persian Gulf are 

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the most specific available 
quantification of what the 

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blockade has actually achieved 
as an economic instrument, Axios

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reported the figure, citing 
Pentagon officials. 

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At current oil prices, 
53,000,000 barrels represents 

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approximately $5 billion in 
crude oil value sitting in the 

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hulls of ships that cannot 
unload their cargo, cannot 

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return to Iranian ports for 
reloading, and cannot sail to 

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buyers because the US blockade 
intercept them on route. 

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The tankers are warehouses that 
cannot be opened. 

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The oil is revenue that cannot 
be collected. 

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The blockades economic impact 
operates through three 

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simultaneous channels. 
The first, Iran cannot export 

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the oil it has. 31 tankers worth
of accumulated production is 

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sitting in the Gulf rather than 
being delivered to buyers. 

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The second, Iran cannot produce 
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it cannot clear existing 
production from storage 

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facilities and tanker capacity. 
The pipeline backs up behind the

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block distribution system. 
The card island storage filling 

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up is the land based equivalent 
of the trapped tankers 

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production backing up behind a 
block distribution system. 

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The third, the US Global 
Blockade intercept, shadow fleet

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tankers attempting to move 
Iranian oil beyond the Strait, 

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removing Iran's primary 
mechanism for routing around the

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hormones closure that has served
it throughout the sanctions era.

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All three channels of the 
blockades economic impact are 

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operating simultaneously and 
compounding each other. 

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The 53,000,000 barrel figure is 
also a measure of how long the 

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blockade has been effective. 48 
days of blockade since April 

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13th at Iran's pre war 
production of approximately 3 

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and a half million barrels per 
day with a large percentage 

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blocked from export produces A 
trapped cargo of this scale. 

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The figure is not static. 
Every day the blockade 

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continues, more barrels are 
added to the accumulation. 

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Every day those tankers sit in 
the Gulf without unloading, 

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Iran's fiscal position 
deteriorates further. 

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The economic cost of not making 
the nuclear concession is 

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compounding daily toward the 
threshold where it exceeds the 

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political cost of making it if 
it is not already crossed it. 

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The South Korean operated vessel
caught fire after an explosion 

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in the Strait of Hormuz on 
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South Korea's Foreign Ministry 
confirmed the ship was carrying 

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24 crew members, including six 
South Korean nationals. 

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All crew were reported safe. 
The vessel will be towed to a 

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nearby port for inspection and 
repairs. 

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The cause of the fire with a 
missile strike, drone minded 

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nation or accident had not been 
officially confirmed as of this 

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episode's recording. 
South Korea is one of Iran's 

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most significant pre war oil 
customers and is not a party to 

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the US Iran conflict in any 
military sense. 

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A South Korean vessel Catching 
Fire in the straight in the 

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middle of a confrontation 
between the US Navy and the IRGC

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is the kind of event that draws 
additional navies, additional 

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diplomatic protests and 
additional international 

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attention to the straight at a 
moment when the operations 

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commercial credibility is 
already being questioned. 

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Seoul's Foreign Ministry was 
monitoring the situation closely

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and said it would carry out 
investigations once the vessel 

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was towed to port. 
Monday's confrontation in the 

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Strait did not produce a formal 
breakdown of the ceasefire. 

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No new American bombs fell on 
Iranian territory, no Iranian 

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missiles. 
Whatever fired whatever target 

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on Monday landed on American 
military bases across the 

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region. 
The ceasefire in its most 

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minimal and technical definition
held through the day, but the 

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architecture that has sustained 
it, the implicit understanding 

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that both sides are exercising 
meaningful restraint in exchange

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for a diplomatic process through
Pakistan, is under the most 

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severe operational stress it has
faced since the agreement was 

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announced on April 8th. 
The ceasefire is being held 

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together by three things 
simultaneously. 

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The proposal exchange through 
Pakistan which is now bi 

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directional with both sides 
sending written documents and 

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Iran reviewing AUS response. 
The two Scott crew release a 

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small but real coordinated 
confidence building action that 

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both governments participated in
on Monday and the private track 

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that trump confirmed on 
Thursday. 

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The one only he and a handful of
others understand which he 

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described on Sunday as producing
very positive discussions. 

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Those three things are the 
architecture of a ceasefire that

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is still by the narrowest of 
margins. 

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Holding set against them are 
IRGC missile claims denied by 

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CENTCOM, US fast boat 
destruction denied by Iran, a 

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South Korean vessel on fire in a
straight 36% public support for 

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the war, and a shipping 
insurance industry that says it 

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has no idea how the guided 
transit operation is being 

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coordinated with Iran, if at 
all. 

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The 2 Scott crew is free and on 
their way to Pakistani 

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authorities. 
The proposals are flowing in 

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both directions through 
Pakistan, The Strait is 

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producing military 
confrontations and the ceasefire

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by the narrowest of margins and 
in the most technical of census,

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is still intact. 
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This has been episode 67 of Epic
Fury the US Iran war podcast 

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episode 67. 
Iran fired at AUS destroyer. the

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US destroyed Iranian fast boats.
Both sides deny the others 

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account. 2 merchant ships cross 
the Strait. 

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The insurance industry has no 
idea how it's being coordinated 

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with Iran. 
The 2 Scott crew is free. 

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Trump told Congress hostilities 
terminated, then told Florida 

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we're in a war. 
Only 36% of Americans think the 

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war was the right call. 
53,000,000 barrels of Iranian 

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oil are sitting in the Gulf in 
tankers that cannot reach their 

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buyers and cannot unload. 
The ceasefire holds a name under

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gunfire, under competing claims 
and under the narrowest of 

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possible margins. 
We will be back very soon.

