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All right, take your Bibles 
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over to 2nd Corinthians chapter 
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Second Corinthians chapter 6, 
and you get a second to switch 

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over to this here. 
Tried to do it early this 

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morning, and I ended up having 
to redo it again anyway, so I 

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figured we'd just try to tell me
when we're ready back there. 

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All right, very good. 
All right, I'm going to, this 

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is, I shared this at camp and I,
I, I was going to change it and 

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do all the different things to 
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church. 
And I said, you know what this 

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is, this is good because this 
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doing this. 
Ask for the old paths. 

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That was our that was our theme 
for camp this year. 

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And so our young people have 
heard at least a portion of this

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already. 
I don't think it's going to hurt

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for them to hear it again, but 
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switch over to my other, my 
smaller iPads. 

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I realized that I'm, I'm doing a
split screen here. 

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I've got my notes on one and 
then the PowerPoint on the other

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and I realized I can't really 
see it all that well, but so 

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we'll see what happens. 
Hopefully it'll be fine, but I 

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just, I wanted to try to see if 
I could use it on both. 

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But let me give you a little bit
of a background to how I came to

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what we're going to talk about 
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We had a, a men's group in this 
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they could use their use our 
facility. 

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They didn't want to use the 
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the outside. 
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would do like a 30 minute 
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They'd start a fire and then 
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fire and, and have a little bit 
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And the whole purpose of the 
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and to, you know, try to, to try
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role in the home and try to get 
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position in their home and, and 
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And they wanted to use our 
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So I gave it a lot of thought. 
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that some of our men would be 
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our men would, would be able to 
help theirs and, and challenge 

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them and kind of, you know, help
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and things like that. 
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bit, I had, I had some of the 
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that actually shared some things
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on their website that I hadn't 
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And so we decided against 
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join us. 
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it, but it was a difficult 
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I'd gotten to know some of the 
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just through different things. 
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was taking part in this men's 
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I had gotten that I met them in 
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They're nice guys. 
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lunch with them and, and got to 
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you know, helping our men to 
leave their homes because the 

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men in the homes are the ones 
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church. 
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the home. 
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vice versa, as the home goes, so
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And as the churches go, so goes 
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And so it's very important that 
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men and we do have something 
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men to take that leadership 
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seriously, to take their their 
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and, and to to guide their 
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family ought to go. 
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but I think it was the right 
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And so it was, you know, it 
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the, the night before they were 
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time is when I called them and 
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planning to meet tomorrow. 
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were planning to use the 
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I said, but I just can't do it. 
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And they were very disappointed 
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forward to using our facility. 
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being a part of it and 
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And I said, let's get together 
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And I want to explain to you why
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And so I, I wrote down 5 things 
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are the five main things that I 
shared with this, this guy, very

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nice guy. 
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have the best intention. 
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that they're doing are fine. 
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we separate from those kind of 
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And the Bible says this in 
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verse #17 Wherefore come out 
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separate, saith the Lord, and 
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I will receive you. 
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to say, stay away from the 
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those things. 
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for that. 
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among them, be separate, and 
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both feet, and I will receive 
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If you said that, then I think 
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may not be exactly what we are, 
that may not be exactly what we 

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should be doing, but it's OK 
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I didn't. 
I'm not jumping in with both 

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feet. 
I'm just touching it a little 

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bit. 
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unclean thing, right? 
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Covenant and God smote him dead,
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he jumped into the ark or jumped
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know that the ark was on. 
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stabilize it, to keep it from 
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Great intentions, but he touched
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allowed to touch. 
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should never have touched and 
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And so when God tells us touch 
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he takes it seriously and we 
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So what I want to talk to you 
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bit here is the importance of 
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And I'm going to actually use 
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I'm going to use some examples 
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And if you find out what it is, 
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trying to hide their identity. 
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pointing them out in that way 
because I do think there's some 

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good men that are involved in 
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I do think they have some good 
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I think they're mis, 
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would be a good way to say it. 
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conversations have helped. 
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I've noticed that several things
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the website are not on the 
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things that I actually addressed
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particular said, you know, those
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people have brought up as well. 
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At least I'm not the only one 
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And so let's talk about it. 
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then let, and then we'll jump 
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Father, again, we thank you so 
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We thank you for an opportunity 
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I pray that this would be a help
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across in the way that it's 
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understand the reason why we 
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that would keep us from being as
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church. 
God, may you use it to help us 

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tonight. 
We thank you again for all you 

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do for us in Jesus name, Amen. 
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was this doctrine matters. 
You can write these things down 

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tonight. 
I think it will help help you. 

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Of course, we had Brother 
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year and he's got a whole 
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ministry called Doctrine 
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And I think it's very, very 
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that. 
But here's what we have to 

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understand. 
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doctrine does not matter. 
We can, we can bring everybody 

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together. 
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important. 
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gospel, as long as the gospel is
getting out, then we can, we can

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join together and do these 
things to get the message of the

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gospel out. 
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is this. 
The gospel is the central thing,

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but it's not the only thing, 
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if, if the gospel is not being 
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it's dead in the water from the 
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The gospel is the most important
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It's essential thing, but it's 
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Testament. 
God wouldn't have given us the 

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rest of the New Testament if all
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gospel. 
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gospel and he would have ended 
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But there's a lot of things in 
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Colossians all the way through 
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And we've been through a lot of 
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It's just filled with doctrine 
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matter. 
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but it's not the only thing. 
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It's a very important thing, but
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And the founder, the leader of 
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how many men they have county 
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I know they're, they're actually
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they're in different states. 
They're in, they're in, but you 

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know, other parts of the country
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don't know how often that he 
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different people about different
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that he thinks will be a help to
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His choice of interviewees, the 
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proves that that they have a 
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the importance of doctrine. 
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that I'll highlight here. 
This is this is an interview 

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that he did with a guy called 
from a, from a heavy metal band,

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heavy metal Christian band 
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is the name of the band. 
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built a metal band. 
I can tell you one thing, God 

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didn't build that metal band. 
Something else did. 

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And they're blaming it on God, 
but God didn't build that metal 

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band. 
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what's happening is, is as they 
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things, essentially what they're
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are OK. 
And by me allowing our church to

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be a part of it. 
And this is kind of really what 

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did it for me. 
The the first thing that I 

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noticed on their website is 
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new location here where 
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there's a new location. 
I said, I'm not going to be 

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associated with this kind of 
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God didn't build no heavy metal 
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part of. 
He didn't, he didn't build these

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things. 
They, they, they're, they're, 

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you know, blaming God for it. 
I'm saying they're giving God 

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credit. 
I'm blaming, you know, they, the

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way I see it, they're blaming 
God for building this metal 

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band. 
But God didn't do that. 

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God didn't do that. 
And he's having an interview 

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with this guy and basically 
telling everybody, hey, it's OK 

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if you want to go listen to 
heavy metal music, it's not OK 

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to listen to heavy metal music. 
That music is not of God. 

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Here's another one. 
He had a he had a guy on there 

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named Keith Nester. 
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Protestantism, why I left 
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kind of giving everybody a 
different view, letting them see

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it from another side. 
But essentially what he did in 

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this podcast was he gave this 
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to explain to everybody why they
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And he doesn't know his Bible 
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to disagree with this guy. 
So there was no disagreement. 

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It was a platform for this guy 
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and why you should leave 
Protestantism too, you know, And

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of course, we're not Protestant 
anyway. 

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So leave Protestantism, I don't 
care. 

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But don't become Catholic, 
right? 

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We're Baptist and we want you to
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Protestant. 
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anything. 
We were never part of the 

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Catholic Church to begin with. 
That your Methodists and your 

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Presbyterians and your 
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they were all Protestants. 
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part of that. 
We were always separate from all

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of those things. 
And so you know why I left 

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Protestantism. 
It's a great platform to share 

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with everybody else why they 
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Had another guy that came on 
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Enneagram and, and if you look 
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kind of see a diagram of what an
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But only 13% of people are truly
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Are you one of them? 
Well, I looked into, I had heard

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of the Enneagram before and I 
knew a lot of its roots. 

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But let me tell you a little bit
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The Enneagram is a personality 
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interconnected types based on 
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visualized on this nine pointed 
diagram. 

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But this, this Enneagram 
actually was brought to the West

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by, and I don't know if I'm 
going to get this guy's name 

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right because it's really weird 
how it's spelled. 

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But GI Gurdjieff, I think is how
you say it. 

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He was a Mystic. 
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came along that was associated 
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The guy's name was Oscar Ichazo.
He claimed that an angelic being

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actually taught him about the 
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And so those who defend this 
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that, well, it's just a, it's 
just a harmless personality 

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assessment tool, but it's very 
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cult. 
It has all of those origins and 

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the historical roots of the 
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and occult leaders who 
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spiritual teachings into their 
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They and they did not try to 
hide it at all. 

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It's not like they were doing 
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that it was a good Christian 
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And then, you know, they were, 
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kind of coming in the back door 
with their occult and, and 

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rituals and magic and all of 
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They were full blown occult 
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and everything else. 
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idea kind of took the Christian 
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But it has, you know, this 
syncretic worldview because it 

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blends and harmonizes religious,
spiritual, and occult ideas all 

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into one single system. 
And it's pretty similar. 

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If you're looking for something 
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similar to like the astrological
signs, which obviously astrology

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is not the study of the stars 
that God intended us. 

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He astronomy is perfectly fine. 
In fact, astronomy is a good 

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thing. 
There are many, many times in 

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the Bible when the stars are 
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In fact, you read through the 
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constellations that are named in
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they study the heavens. 
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between astronomy and astrology.
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astrological signs. 
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that, you're delving into that, 
into the occult, into the 

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mysticism, and into all those 
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with that. 
And this Enneagram has got the 

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same exact base. 
And guys like Richard Rohr ROHR,

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they're proponents of this 
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promote this universalist 
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religions share the same truths.
We're just saying it a little 

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bit different way, but we all 
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These are the kind of guys that 
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And of course, the Enneagram is,
is a gnostic path to self 

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discovery. 
That's why only 13% of people 

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are self aware. 
Are you one of them? 

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Right. 
I mean, I don't need to be self 

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aware. 
I know who I am. 

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I'm a Sinner before God and I'm 
saved by grace. 

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I don't need self discovery. 
You know, you hear people say it

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all the time. 
I, I just had to take some time 

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off to go discover myself. 
What are you, what are you 

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trying to discover? 
Right? 

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There's nothing to discover. 
The Bible tells us who we are, 

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tells us who we can be in 
Christ. 

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My identity is not in myself. 
My identity is in Christ, right?

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And, and I don't need to go 
become self aware. 

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I don't need to self identify 
as, as you know, whatever it 

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happens to be. 
It's all about self discovery 

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and it puts all the emphasis on 
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We don't need self discovery. 
We need God. 

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And so the reason you're seeing 
a falling away in many, many 

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churches is because you have a 
huge faction of denominations 

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are saying that doctrine doesn't
matter. 

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It's not important as long as 
the gospel is being preached. 

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And by the way, most of these 
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doesn't matter, it's this, it's 
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important are not preaching the 
gospel either. 

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The gospel is central to the 
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only thing in the entire Bible. 
And there's many things that 

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matter. 
And one of the things that that 

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this guy, the founder bragged 
about in one of his podcast was 

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that there were represented 9 
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represented by this, by this 
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We have 9 different 
denominations that that, that 

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are hosting these, these men's 
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That's not a good thing. 
That's that, that's something 

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that pushes me away from that. 
I am different in my 

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denomination for a reason. 
I'm trying to separate from 

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those that are not preaching the
truth. 

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I don't want to be joined 
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And, and here's what happens. 
OK, now we're going to do this 

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men's group and we're going to 
have Catholics and, and 

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Presbyterians and Pentecostals 
and Lutherans and all of these 

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people come together. 
Now we're associated with all of

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those people. 
And essentially I'm giving my 

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stamp of approval to them 
because I'm praying on the same 

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stage or in the same Bible study
as a Catholic guy. 

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And I have to pretend that he's 
a Christian too. 

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And I hear these people calling 
him, hey brother, you know this 

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and that. 
You're not my brother. 

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You're, you're a fellow human, 
but you're not my brother 

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because you don't know Christ as
your savior, right? 

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And there's a huge difference 
and there's a huge necessity 

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for, for a separation when it 
comes to doctrine. 

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And it's necessary. 
It's important. 

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Doctrine absolutely matters. 
But I'll tell you what happens 

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when you, when doctrine doesn't 
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That's how you end up with 
homosexual pastors. 

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That's how you end up with 
transgenders on, on the on the 

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stage, singing in your music 
group and and leading your 

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worship services and everything 
else. 

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Because doctrine doesn't matter.
As long as you say Jesus, as 

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long as you talk about God, then
that's the only thing that 

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matters. 
No doctrine matters. 

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It's important. 
There's a lot I could preach, AI

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could preach a message about 
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things. 
Tonight, I'm not going to do 

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that. 
I'm going to move along. 

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So the first one is that 
doctrine matters. 

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But the second thing, the second
main issue that I have with this

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group is that they're not local 
church. 

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Turn over to Ephesians chapter 
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They should be a ministry of a 
local church. 

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You have to have that guidance 
in that direction. 

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You end up trying to be so broad
that you'll accept anybody when 

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you're not a ministry of a local
church. 

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I would much rather have this 
guy be a Lutheran who is trying 

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to promote Lutheran doctrine, 
that I would have him be 

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everything to everybody and 
promote nothing and have no 

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doctrinal standards when it 
comes to any of those things. 

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Now, if he was Lutheran, I still
wouldn't do it, but it's much, 

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much better for him to be under 
somebody and have a pastor who 

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is directing him and guiding him
and leading him in those things.

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Is it wrong for a guy to have a 
ministry that he leads? 

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Absolutely not. 
But that ministry needs to be a 

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ministry of a local church the 
same, the same way that these 

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ministries that we're working 
together with to reach these 

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college campuses, they're 
ministries of local churches. 

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They are under a pastor and they
have a pastor who is helping to 

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direct them and lead them and 
guide them. 

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Same way that a missionary ought
to be, missionaries ought to be 

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under a local church. 
If all you are is under a 

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mission board, then you don't 
have that authority that you 

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need to have on the mission 
field. 

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You need to be under a local 
church. 

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And obviously, you know, this 
Catholic guy is now connected 

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with this organization and he's 
going to try to get people into 

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the Catholic Church. 
And this Pentecostal guy is 

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connected to this organization. 
He's going to try to get people 

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to become Pentecostal and all of
these other things. 

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If you have no direction, if you
have no guidance because you're 

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not under of the ministry of a 
local church, then you try to be

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everything to everybody. 
And I know Paul said I made all 

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things to all men, but that's 
not what he meant. 

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So you're making men stronger. 
That's their that's your goal. 

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We're making men stronger. 
But I asked the question 

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stronger in what? 
Stronger in the Catholic faith, 

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Stronger Pentecostal, stronger 
Lutheran, stronger Methodist. 

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Is that what you're trying to 
make them stronger? 

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What if you have no direction 
from God's word and you have no 

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direction from your local 
church? 

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Then what are you making men 
stronger in? 

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You want them to take a 
leadership role? 

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Then, then, then go sit under 
John Maxwell and listen how to 

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be a better leader. 
There's no difference. 

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If, if, if that's all you're 
going to do, then you are not 

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leading men to be stronger in in
Christ. 

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You're leading men to be 
stronger as leaders and that's 

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it. 
And that doesn't count for 

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anything when it comes to 
spirituality. 

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Ephesians chapter 5 and verse 
25. 

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Husbands, love your wives. 
Even as Christ also loved the 

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church and gave himself for it, 
it doesn't say as Christ also 

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loved the ministry and gave 
himself for it. 

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He loved the church and the 
church is central to everything 

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that we do. 
And every ministry that we have 

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ought to be a ministry of the 
local church. 

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Every ministry that we are part 
of ought to be a ministry of a 

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local church. 
Maybe you've heard this term 

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before, but it's a term. 
It's called para church 

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organizations. 
A para church organization is an

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organization that is not under 
the authority. 

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Of a local church. 
This men's group is not under 

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the authority of a local church.
And that's one of the reasons 

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why they're all over the place. 
And you have Catholic guys on 

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and doing interviews and guys 
teaching about the Enneagram on 

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to do interviews and all of 
these other things because you 

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have no direction and no 
guidance because you're not 

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under the ministry of a local 
church. 

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Let me give you another issue 
that I have and that is CCM, 

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contemporary Christian music. 
There's a lot that I could say 

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about this, obviously that I'm 
not going to, but I'll tell you 

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this. 
CCM is the bridge to everything 

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else that pulls you away from 
God. 

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CCM is the bridge to everything 
else that pulls you away from 

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God. 
Let me, in fact, let me give you

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this quote. 
This is by a guy named Corey 

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Asbury. 
And, and I, I couldn't tell you 

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who he was until I looked him 
up, but apparently he is a chart

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topping artist. 
He's part of Bethel Music. 

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Bethel Music is obviously a huge
music producing machine, but he 

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said this on TikTok. 
Marketing yourself is 

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antithetical to the way of 
Jesus. 

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Every Christian artist has a 
camera on themselves or a camera

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crew team videoing everything 
they do. 

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Scripture tells us don't let 
your left hand know what your 

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right hand is doing and yet we 
hire entire promo teams to tell 

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00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,960
the world how great we are. 
A lot of what pushed me away 

451
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,360
from the Christian music 
industry was people writing 

452
00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:31,640
worship songs knowing that 
they're going to get a big fat 

453
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,640
CCLI. 
Check if it does really well and

454
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,520
I'll have another video on 
CCLII. 

455
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,600
Personally have made tons of 
money, I mean millions and 

456
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,720
millions of dollars from CCLI, 
which is when churches put your 

457
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,320
lyric up on the screen and they 
sing your song. 

458
00:21:48,120 --> 00:21:51,080
But what happens is people see 
that success or they hear about 

459
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,560
that success and they go, I want
to do that. 

460
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,720
I need to write a worship banger
and it becomes formulaic. 

461
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,680
It's not from the heart 
inauthentic garbage drivel, not 

462
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:06,280
from God, but from man. 
This is from a contemporary 

463
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,320
Christian artist who was, in a 
moment of honesty at least, 

464
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,040
willing to admit what the whole 
contemporary Christian music 

465
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,760
industry is about. 
It is all about writing the next

466
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,480
banger so you can make a lot of 
money. 

467
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,760
It's not about pleasing God. 
It's not about Christ being 

468
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,360
glorified. 
Oh, they would say that they're 

469
00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:28,360
going to lead the worship and 
they're going to say that, but 

470
00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:31,640
look at their lives. 
Look at the lives of most of 

471
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,040
these people, man. 
I'm not going to think of the 

472
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,720
guy's name, but he was really, 
really popular of a group called

473
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,640
Newsboys, I think. 
And I can't remember the guy's 

474
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,840
name who was the lead singer of 
this group just came out that he

475
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:47,160
has had all kinds of affairs and
and by the way, it looks he's 

476
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,800
going to end up in prison from 
some of the things that he's 

477
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,640
done that have finally come to 
light. 

478
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,000
These are the guys that are 
writing your worship music if 

479
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,880
you're listening to contemporary
Christian music. 

480
00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,560
These are the guys that are 
leading these large mega 

481
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,240
churches today because it's not 
the pastor that's leading it. 

482
00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:06,800
It's being driven by the music 
and the money for all of these 

483
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,960
massive places is being driven 
by the music. 

484
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:15,720
Bethel Hillsong Elevation, 
there's there's, there's several

485
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,320
of them that are kind of at the 
top of the of the contemporary 

486
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,320
Christian music industry. 
And everybody that's there wants

487
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,840
to write the next song that's 
going to bring them millions. 

488
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,800
And that's the only reason that 
most of them are doing it. 

489
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,760
And it's proof because as soon 
as they get good enough that 

490
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,240
they can crossover into pop 
music and everything else, they 

491
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,680
do it. 
And all the sudden everything 

492
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,680
that was about Christ is not 
about that at all anymore. 

493
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,680
Now it all becomes about the 
music industry and making money.

494
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,600
By the way, when you call it the
contemporary Christian music 

495
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,200
industry, you know it's a 
problem. 

496
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,360
And that's exactly what they 
call it. 

497
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,880
It's the contemporary Christian 
music industry. 

498
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,800
That's exactly what it is. 
It's a way to make money, and 

499
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,640
that's about it. 
But I'll tell you this, when 

500
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,880
contemporary Christian music is 
introduced in a church, 

501
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,800
everything else begins to go in 
the wrong direction. 

502
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,760
When you bring in that kind of 
music and you turn the lights 

503
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,400
off in the auditorium and you 
turn the lights up on the stage 

504
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,160
and you have a band up there 
behind you with everybody that's

505
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,800
dressed exactly like all the 
rest of the world bands are 

506
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,600
dressed. 
And if you didn't have a sign on

507
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,400
the front that said something 
church, you would have no idea 

508
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,240
that it was anything different. 
And if you didn't hear Jesus 

509
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,640
every once in a while, you had 
no idea that you were at a 

510
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,040
different type that that, that 
you were at any other concert 

511
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,000
than something that you can go 
down to at Innsbruck after hours

512
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,240
and listen to. 
You have no idea about the fog 

513
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,840
machines and the strobe lights 
and the, and the, the graphics 

514
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,000
that are coming up on the screen
behind the musicians. 

515
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,720
If you, if you didn't hear Jesus
every now and then, you would 

516
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,800
have no idea that it was 
anything different than what you

517
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,360
could go down to and listen to 
on a Friday night with everybody

518
00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:50,960
drinking beer and smoking and 
doing pot and all of those other

519
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,680
things. 
You'd have no idea that there 

520
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,000
was anything different because 
they look and act and dress 

521
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,160
exactly like the world. 
They sing like the world because

522
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,200
that's what they're trying to 
produce. 

523
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,120
And if you're not giving the 
world something different, why 

524
00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:05,200
do you think they're going to 
want to come to Christ? 

525
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,840
If I can go to a concert and pay
for it on Saturday night, or go 

526
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,520
to a concert and sit in there 
for free on Sunday, which one do

527
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,520
you think I'm going to do? 
Most of the people are going to 

528
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,440
go sit there on Sunday because 
it's a free concert, but that's 

529
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,280
the only thing that they're 
looking at it as. 

530
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,880
It's a free concert. 
It's a way to sit there and 

531
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,960
listen to music and feel 
spiritual. 

532
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,760
Most time you walk out of there 
on this high for a little bit, 

533
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:33,040
but it doesn't last very long. 
And contemporary Christian 

534
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,040
music, when you when you bring 
that into the church, doctrine 

535
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,440
becomes less important. 
When you bring that into the 

536
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,640
church, the Bible that you use 
becomes less important. 

537
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,080
You bring that into the church 
and all the sudden standards of 

538
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,560
dress become less important. 
It doesn't matter what you wear 

539
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,520
anymore. 
You can wear anything you want 

540
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,600
as long as you're worshipping 
God in the way that God wants to

541
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,160
be worshipped, right? 
That's what they say. 

542
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,040
You can't take the world's 
music, mix it with Christian 

543
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,560
words, and expect God to bless 
it. 

544
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,680
Rock music, by the admission of 
all of those who were the 

545
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,000
founders of rock music and have 
written rock music for years and

546
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,640
years, was written to be sex 
music. 

547
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,560
And I'm being blunt, but that's 
exactly what they say it was 

548
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,680
written for. 
And they have no problem telling

549
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,560
you that. 
And you're going to take that 

550
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,960
music and try to mix it with 
Christian words and expect that 

551
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,560
God's going to be OK with that. 
Expect that you can bring that 

552
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,400
into the church and expect God 
to say, that's something that's 

553
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,720
pleasing to me. 
You expect, expect God to say, 

554
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:41,080
now that's music that that that 
is for worship when it was 

555
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,880
designed to be the exact 
opposite of that. 

556
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,120
You cannot take the world's 
music and put it with Christian 

557
00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:50,200
words and expect that God's 
going to bless it. 

558
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,920
And further, you cannot take the
world's standards and put it 

559
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,440
into a church setting and expect
God to bless that either. 

560
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,360
But that's exactly what's 
happening. 

561
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,720
We're dancing around on the 
stage and hopping around and 

562
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,840
doing all this kind of stuff. 
And you got your guys with their

563
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,760
long hair down their backs and 
their little beanies on and 

564
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,400
their, and their chains around 
their necks and their pants 

565
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,320
sagging down. 
And you know, they're, they're, 

566
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,440
they're $500 tennis shoes that 
they want everybody to see and 

567
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,360
that you can't tell any 
difference between them and 

568
00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:19,440
Justin Bieber. 
And you expect that God's going 

569
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,240
to bless that. 
You're going to bring that into 

570
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,520
the church and say God bless 
this. 

571
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,680
God is looking at that and I 
think even worse than what he 

572
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,120
said to the church at Laodicea. 
I want to throw up when I see 

573
00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:36,040
that because that's not music 
that is pleasing to the Lord. 

574
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,480
There's no way that that music 
is pleasing to the Lord when you

575
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,160
are doing everything you can to 
imitate the very world that God 

576
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,840
says. 
If you are a friend of them, you

577
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,840
are the enemy of God. 
And you're going to bring that 

578
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,840
into the church and try to 
pretend that it's OK because 

579
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,160
it's in a church setting or 
because you put a couple of 

580
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,520
church words with it. 
That's not pleasing to the Lord 

581
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,040
and God's not going to bless 
that. 

582
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,080
You are becoming friends of the 
world. 

583
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:01,840
And in becoming a friend of the 
world, you are becoming an enemy

584
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,200
of God. 
And they have no problem. 

585
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,240
This men's group has no problem 
playing this contemporary 

586
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,400
Christian music. 
They have no problem promoting 

587
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,880
this contemporary Christian 
music. 

588
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,200
They've had many of these CCM 
artists on to their podcast to 

589
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,800
interview them and talk about 
how great God is doing things in

590
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,200
their life and how much God is 
blessing them. 

591
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,240
And you might look at that from 
the outside and say, we'll look 

592
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,800
at all the success. 
Yeah, but Justin Bieber had 

593
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,440
success, too. 
Is God blessing that? 

594
00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:35,880
You know, all these other 
artists who are at the top, you 

595
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,680
know, top charts, you know, top 
100 or whatever it happens to 

596
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,280
be, they're being blessed by 
God, too, right? 

597
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,360
Because they're making millions 
of dollars and everybody knows 

598
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,640
who they are, and their songs 
are popular and everything else.

599
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,400
God's blessing that too, right? 
Or just because something is 

600
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,200
popular doesn't mean that God's 
blessing it. 

601
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,240
God allows it, but it doesn't 
mean that he is blessing. 

602
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,400
It doesn't mean it's there 
because of God's blessing. 

603
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,520
So you don't, you don't judge it
by that. 

604
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,320
You don't judge. 
You don't judge the value of 

605
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,640
something by its success. 
You judge the value of something

606
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,760
by how closely it is to the Word
of God. 

607
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,440
That's the standard, and that's 
why doctrine matters. 

608
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,480
That's why it's important that 
we do not bring contemporary 

609
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,280
Christian music into the church.
You should fight with everything

610
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,480
you have to keep CCM out of this
church. 

611
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,640
As long as I'm the pastor, we're
going to keep it out. 

612
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,760
But there may be a day when I'm 
not, if I'm ever not the pastor 

613
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,080
of this church, You ought to 
fight with everything you have 

614
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,080
to keep contemporary Christian 
music out of the church. 

615
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,920
Because the day that that music 
walks down the aisle and sings 

616
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,640
on the stage or plays on the 
stage, everything else is going 

617
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,240
out the window. 
And this will be a church that 

618
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,000
God can no longer bless because 
you give it five years, maybe 

619
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,360
10, and everything that we've 
ever stood for will be gone. 

620
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,920
That's what contemporary music 
is. 

621
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,680
It's dangerous, it's a poison. 
And we ought to fight with 

622
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,400
everything we have to keep it 
away from our church. 

623
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,720
Let me give you another one, 
another issue that I have when 

624
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,160
it comes to the idea of 
separation, and that is a casual

625
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,760
attitude toward church. 
Now, let me give you a caution, 

626
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,240
because there's a lot of people 
who associate the way that you 

627
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:11,760
dress with godliness. 
And in other words, I can live 

628
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,440
how I want. 
I can think how I want to think.

629
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,400
I can do things that nobody 
knows that I'm doing. 

630
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,320
But as long as I dress the right
way, then I'm a good Christian. 

631
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,080
And I believe that dress is 
very, very, very important. 

632
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,360
That's why we have the dress 
standards that we have. 

633
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:30,840
Dress is important. 
But many times people have put a

634
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,640
huge emphasis on the wrong thing
and they put a huge emphasis on 

635
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,040
dress. 
And as long as I dress right, 

636
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,320
then I'm a good Christian. 
I can live my life how I want 

637
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,080
to. 
And that's wrong. 

638
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,600
That's wrong. 
But the way you dress does 

639
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,800
matter. 
And I'll tell you this, in fact,

640
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,600
let me give it to you here. 
The way that you dress for 

641
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,400
church sets the tone for the way
that you present yourself before

642
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,480
God as you sing the hymns, as 
you listen to the message, as 

643
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,960
you do everything that you do at
church. 

644
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,040
The way that you dress matters. 
And that's why, that's why I, 

645
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,720
especially everybody that's 
doing something as, as, as, as 

646
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,160
part of singing or playing or 
whatever it happens to be, we 

647
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,560
dress in a suit because I am 
coming before the King of Kings 

648
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,400
and I want to act and dress like
I'm coming before the King of 

649
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,840
Kings. 
I don't want to dress like I'm 

650
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,120
going on a, on a, on a sloppy 
beach day and just being casual 

651
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,240
in a T-shirt and flip flops and 
shorts. 

652
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,600
I'm going before the King of 
Kings. 

653
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,440
If you had an opportunity to go 
meet the President of the United

654
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:35,600
States, I can promise you that 
99.9% of the people who dressed 

655
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,960
that way in church would wear 
their best suit that they had to

656
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,600
go meet the President of the 
United States. 

657
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,560
Well, God doesn't care. 
He's looking at the heart. 

658
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,200
No, God is looking at the heart,
but he also cares about how you 

659
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,280
dress. 
He cares about what you look 

660
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,520
like. 
And it's not just what you're 

661
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,400
wearing. 
It's an attitude change, right? 

662
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,560
I'm going to meet the King of 
Kings. 

663
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,080
I don't want to be sloppy and 
casual when I do it. 

664
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,920
It changes the way that you do 
look. 

665
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,160
I'm not going to get out there 
in a suit and tie and play 

666
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,880
baseball, all right? 
I'm not going to go throw a 

667
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,960
baseball or football. 
Then maybe I'll toss the ball 

668
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,600
here and there, but I'm not 
going to play football in a suit

669
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,440
and tie. 
I act differently when I'm 

670
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,560
dressed in a suit than I do when
I'm wearing shorts and AT shirt 

671
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,940
and tennis shoes, right? 
When you put on shorts and AT 

672
00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:24,040
shirt and tennis shoes, your 
attitude automatically becomes 

673
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,080
casual because that's what you 
wear when you're casual, right? 

674
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,560
Or a pair of jeans and AT shirt,
that's it's a casual dress. 

675
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,960
And so your attitude becomes 
that way. 

676
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,000
And when I show up at church in 
a casual dress, my attitude 

677
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,840
automatically is a casual 
attitude toward everything 

678
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,320
that's happening, including the 
way that I'm going to worship 

679
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,360
God. 
I remember this when I was when 

680
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,560
I was in school, any time we 
played, we played soccer, we 

681
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,440
wrestled, we played basketball. 
And on the days that we had a 

682
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,920
game or a tournament or 
something like that, we had to 

683
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,440
wear a suit to school. 
Now, I always, we had to wear a 

684
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,480
shirt and tie. 
We could wear khakis, but we had

685
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,600
to wear a shirt and tie. 
Once you got in 9th grade, 9th 

686
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,520
through 12th grade, had to wear 
a shirt and tie to school every 

687
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,040
day. 
And that changed the way that 

688
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,280
you acted. 
But you got used to that. 

689
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,000
But on days when we had a game 
and you came in in a suit, 

690
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,680
everybody acted differently 
because you're not going to do 

691
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,600
things in a suit that you would 
do in shorts and AT shirt. 

692
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,960
Your attitude changes. 
I'm on the soccer team and I got

693
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,360
a game today and I want 
everybody to know it. 

694
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,120
You know, your attitude changes,
and it's the same when you come 

695
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,800
to church. 
You're dressed in a suit. 

696
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,160
You're carrying your Bible 
instead of scrolling your phone 

697
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,880
and answering text messages and 
looking at Facebook during the 

698
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,840
message because you're 
distracted, right? 

699
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,040
It changes everything about your
attitude in church. 

700
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,160
That's why we dress up. 
That's why we wear a suit. 

701
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,200
And this guy in particular that 
I was talking with and sharing 

702
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,920
that with him, he said, man, you
know what, I've never thought 

703
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,520
about that before, but you're 
exactly right. 

704
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,400
That's exactly what happens at 
church. 

705
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,120
Everybody's, everybody's just 
casual and the whole attitude is

706
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,600
casual in church. 
And listen, that's exactly what 

707
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,280
contemporary Christian music 
does to the atmosphere. 

708
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,120
You're just at a concert, you're
not at church, You're just, 

709
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,440
you're just hanging out with 
your friends and join the music.

710
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,639
All right, go bring your bring 
your coffee in there and sip on 

711
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:21,920
your coffee during the service. 
It's just, it's just the another

712
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,960
event. 
It's not church, right? 

713
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,800
Bring your snacks in there and 
if you get hungry, just dig in 

714
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,080
there and eat them because no, I
mean, the music is so loud, 

715
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,440
nobody can hear the rappers 
anyway, right? 

716
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,000
But that's what it does. 
The attitude changes completely 

717
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,679
when you dress differently. 
And I'm telling you that all of 

718
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:39,719
it starts when you bring in 
contemporary Christian music. 

719
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,280
And I'm not, I'm not just 
keeping harping on that, but I'm

720
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,440
telling you, the entire attitude
becomes casual. 

721
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,239
And the dress, the way that you 
dress for church has a lot to do

722
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,040
with that. 
Now, let me share this last one 

723
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,360
with you, and I'll give you 
this. 

724
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,600
If you want to pull your phone 
out, you're welcome to do that 

725
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,360
because you can follow along 
with me. 

726
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,640
I'm going to put them on the 
screen here for you to see this.

727
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,440
But there's a reason we hold to 
the King James Bible. 

728
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,960
And it's not just that this is 
the version that we decided was 

729
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,480
the best. 
This is the version that God 

730
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:18,000
preserved miraculously and gave 
us God's Word in English, and 

731
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,880
He's promised that He would 
preserve His Word forever. 

732
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,240
If he will preserve His Word 
forever, then that means all of 

733
00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:28,800
the words are preserved. 
And that means they didn't get 

734
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,160
it wrong when they translated 
our Bible into English. 

735
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,760
And for 250 years we were 
scrambling around trying to find

736
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,200
the right version. 
And now all of a sudden in 1990,

737
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,920
they wrote the right version of 
the Bible, and now we have it. 

738
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:44,000
Now, God promised that He would 
preserve His Word, and we've had

739
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,600
God's preserved word from the 
time that He wrote it until 

740
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,720
today, and we will have it for 
all of eternity. 

741
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,040
I do believe that there are 
other versions of the Bible in 

742
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,880
different languages that are 
also the preserved Word of God 

743
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,760
in their language, but we have 
the preserved Word of God in 

744
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,040
English in our King James Bible.
It does not need to be changed. 

745
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,880
There is nothing wrong with our 
Bible, and I'll tell you this, 

746
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,080
Things that are different cannot
be the same. 

747
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,040
It's just another way to say the
same thing. 

748
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,120
No, it's not. 
Things that are different cannot

749
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,800
be the same. 
And when you start messing with 

750
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,880
God's word and you start 
changing the version of the 

751
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,200
Bible and you start adding 
different things and taking 

752
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,760
different things away, you are 
changing things that matter. 

753
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,920
You are changing doctrines that 
matter. 

754
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,000
And I want to show you some 
examples, OK? 

755
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:35,160
The ESV the ESV and the NIV are 
probably two of the most popular

756
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,080
versions besides the King James 
Version of the Bible and the NIV

757
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,160
and the ESV are very similar to 
each other. 

758
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,600
So what I want to do as we close
here is just give you some 

759
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,320
comparisons. 
Let you see some of the 

760
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,200
differences between the King 
James Bible and the English 

761
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,640
standard version of the Bible. 
Tell me if you notice that 

762
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,640
there's anything different. 
Here's what the Bible says in 

763
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,000
Mark chapter 10 and verse 24. 
I would highly recommend that 

764
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:05,200
you write these verses down. 
It's a great comparison for you 

765
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,080
to look at these things and, and
really, if you're trying to show

766
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,680
somebody else why you believe 
the King James Bible is the word

767
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,440
of God, these are some great 
verses to take them to. 

768
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,920
All right, Mark chapter 10 and 
verse #24 the Bible says, and 

769
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,400
listen, I want you to pay 
attention to these. 

770
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,000
I want you to watch these 
because I'm going to ask you 

771
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,480
what the difference is here, OK.
And the disciples were 

772
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,760
astonished at his words, but 
Jesus answereth again and said 

773
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,120
unto them, children, how hard is
it for them that trust in riches

774
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,840
to enter into the Kingdom of 
God? 

775
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,640
That's the King James Version. 
Here's what the ESV says in Mark

776
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,440
chapter 10 and verse 24. 
And the disciples were amazed at

777
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,720
his words. 
But Jesus said unto them again, 

778
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,840
children, how difficult it is to
enter the Kingdom of God. 

779
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,880
You notice the difference? 
Let's go back children. 

780
00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:58,640
How hard is it for them that 
trust in riches to enter into 

781
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,040
the Kingdom of God? 
Is it hard to get into heaven? 

782
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,240
Absolutely not. 
Christ has made their way to 

783
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:07,080
heaven very easy, but not 
according to the ESV. 

784
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,800
According to the ESV, it's very 
difficult to get into heaven. 

785
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,800
Children, how difficult it is to
enter the Kingdom of God. 

786
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,480
You think a doctrine has been 
changed in those different 

787
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,640
translations? 
No, no, it's just a different 

788
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,040
way to say the same thing. 
Doctrine hasn't been changed. 

789
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:26,040
No, it absolutely has. 
It's not difficult to enter to 

790
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,480
heaven, but that's what the ESV 
says. 

791
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,480
John chapter 6 and verse 47. 
Verily, verily, I say unto you, 

792
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,840
he that believeth on me hath 
everlasting life. 

793
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,360
And see what the ESV says. 
Truly, truly, I say unto you, 

794
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,480
whoever believes has eternal 
life. 

795
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,960
See any difference? 
How about on me, which is the 

796
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,480
central port point of the entire
Bible? 

797
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,920
No, whosoever he that believeth 
on me hath everlasting life. 

798
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,040
This one you're allowed to 
believe anything you want to. 

799
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,640
He that believes has everlasting
life. 

800
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,200
How many times you've heard 
somebody say I'm a believer? 

801
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,080
What does a believer mean? 
If you're not believing on 

802
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,600
Christ, then it doesn't matter 
what you're believing in. 

803
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,800
You think doctrine has been 
changed in that verse? 

804
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,600
Absolutely it has. 
Acts chapter 8 and verse #37 Now

805
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,240
let me give you a little bit of 
context here. 

806
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,200
Acts chapter 8 is the story of 
the Ethiopian eunuch. 

807
00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:28,400
Philip meets this Ethiopian 
eunuch in his chariot and he 

808
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:36,040
finds him there reading the 
reading the book of Isaiah. 

809
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,520
Yes. 
In fact, here's what I want you 

810
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,120
to do. 
Turn over to Acts chapter 8, 

811
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:46,320
because I want you to see this. 
OK, Acts chapter 8, he comes up 

812
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,440
to him and the Ethiopian eunuch 
is reading the book of Isaiah. 

813
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,920
And Philip asks him, hey, do you
understand what you're reading? 

814
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,040
And he didn't say, hey, but 
that's, that's my version of the

815
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:02,920
Bible, Philip. 
So so verse 34 the eunuch 

816
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,080
answered Philip and said, I pray
thee, of whom speaketh the 

817
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,200
prophet this of himself, or of 
some other man? 

818
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,840
Philip opened his mouth and 
began at the same Scripture, and

819
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,200
preached unto him Jesus. 
And as they went on their way, 

820
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,520
they came unto a certain water. 
And the eunuch said, See, here 

821
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,120
is water, what does hinder me to
be baptized? 

822
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,760
Here's verse 37. 
And Philip said, If thou 

823
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,240
believest with all thine heart, 
thou mayest. 

824
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,480
And he answered and said, I 
believe that Jesus Christ is the

825
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,800
Son of God. 
And he commanded the chariot to 

826
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,760
stand still, and they went down 
both into the water, both Philip

827
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,560
and the eunuch, and he baptized 
him. 

828
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,840
So verse 37, Acts chapter 8, 
verse 37 is where I'm drawing 

829
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,600
your attention. 
Philip said, if I believe it's 

830
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,680
with all thine heart, thou 
mayest. 

831
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,480
And he answered and said, I 
believe that Jesus Christ is the

832
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,200
Son of God. 
Here's what it says in the ESV. 

833
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,920
Nothing. 
That verse is gone. 

834
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,720
The entire verse is missing. 
And so I asked this guy, this is

835
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:06,560
what I was doing. 
I sat down, I had this list of 

836
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,920
verses, and I said, hey, I want 
you to read Acts 837 and tell me

837
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,800
what it says in the ESV. 
And he started reading and he 

838
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,960
commanded the chariot to stand. 
So I said, no, no, that's verse 

839
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,600
38. 
Read verse 37. 

840
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,760
It's not there. 
I said exactly. 

841
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,960
Now here's what the Bible says 
in the King James Version tell 

842
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,560
me that that's not important 
doctrine to tell us that it's 

843
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,200
not baptism that saves you. 
It's believing on the Lord Jesus

844
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,120
Christ and if you believe on him
with all your heart, then you 

845
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,640
can be baptized. 
No, they skipped over it 

846
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:39,800
perfectly. 
Here's water. 

847
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,000
What did hinder me to be 
baptized and he commanded the 

848
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,320
chariot stands to stand still. 
They went down in the water and 

849
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,880
he baptized no mention I believe
in Jesus Christ with all of your

850
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,360
heart. 
No mention of a testimony of I 

851
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:56,160
believe with all my heart that 
he Jesus is the Son of God. 

852
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,880
Here's another one. 
Romans chapter 8 verse #1 There 

853
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,040
is therefore now no condemnation
to them which are in Christ 

854
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,840
Jesus, who walk not after the 
flesh, but after the Spirit. 

855
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,400
Let's see what the ESV has to 
say. 

856
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,080
There is therefore now no 
condemnation for those who are 

857
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:19,440
in Christ Jesus. 
Do you think that's a doctrinal 

858
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,080
change? 
Look what it took out. 

859
00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:23,800
It took out the whole 
second-half of the verse, who 

860
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,240
walk not after the flesh, but 
after the Spirit. 

861
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,440
It completely eliminates holy 
living. 

862
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,520
There is therefore now no 
condemnation to them which are 

863
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,720
in Christ Jesus, who walk not 
after the flesh, but after the 

864
00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:42,960
Spirit takes it completely out. 
First Corinthians chapter one 

865
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,520
verse #18 This is what the Bible
says in the King James. 

866
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,240
For the preaching of the cross 
is to them that perish 

867
00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:53,800
foolishness, but unto us which 
are saved it is the power of 

868
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,920
God. 
See if you notice a difference. 

869
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,720
It's subtle, but this is what it
says in the ESV. 

870
00:42:59,240 --> 00:43:02,000
For the word of the cross is 
folly to those who are 

871
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:07,360
perishing, but to us who are 
being saved, it is the power of 

872
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,280
God. 
You think there's any doctrinal 

873
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:16,120
change in that verse? 
Is being saved a process or is 

874
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,800
it something that happens the 
moment you accept Christ as your

875
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,720
Savior? 
And here's what the Bible says 

876
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,560
unto us, which are saved. 
It is the power of God. 

877
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:28,280
Here's what they say it is to us
who are being saved. 

878
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,440
It is the power of God. 
No, no, it's not a process. 

879
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,880
It's a one time single moment 
event. 

880
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,520
Colossians chapter 1 and verse 
14. 

881
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,000
In whom we have redemption 
through His blood. 

882
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,360
Even the forgiveness of sins. 
Let's see what the ESV has to 

883
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,560
say. 
In whom we have redemption, the 

884
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,680
forgiveness of sins. 
Any doctrinal changes in that 

885
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,000
one? 
Let's just take the blood of 

886
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,520
Christ completely out of it. 
It's not necessary, it doesn't 

887
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,040
matter. 
No, no, the Bible says it does. 

888
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,800
In whom we have redemption 
through His blood, even the 

889
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:08,600
forgiveness of sins. 
Micah chapter 5, verse #2 But 

890
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,480
thou, Bethlehem Efrata, though 
thou belittle among the 

891
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,040
thousands of Judah, yet out of 
thee shall he come forth unto me

892
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,240
that is to be ruler in Israel, 
whose goings forth have been 

893
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:23,920
from of old from everlasting. 
Let's see what the ESV has to 

894
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,480
say. 
But you, O Bethlehem Efrata, who

895
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,640
are too little to be among the 
clans of Judah, from you shall 

896
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,280
come forth for me, one who is to
be ruler in Israel, whose coming

897
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,720
forth is from of old, from 
ancient days. 

898
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,560
Hang on, what does the Bible say
whose goings forth have been 

899
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:48,480
from of old, from everlasting? 
Is there a difference between 

900
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:53,680
everlasting and ancient days? 
Everlasting means he's God, 

901
00:44:54,560 --> 00:45:00,960
means he never had a beginning. 
From ancient days means he had a

902
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:06,040
start, means he's not God. 
You are changing dramatically 

903
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:11,360
doctrines that really matter in 
God's Word when you change the 

904
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,520
Bible version. 
Daniel chapter 3, verse 25. 

905
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,840
This is the story of Shadrach, 
Meshach, and Abednego. 

906
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,720
And they got thrown into the 
fiery furnace. 

907
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,320
And once they got into the fiery
furnace, Nebuchadnezzar looked 

908
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,160
inside and he didn't see three 
men. 

909
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,440
He saw 4. 
He answered and said, LO, I see 

910
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,360
four men loose walking in the 
midst of the fire, and they have

911
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,280
no hurt. 
And the form of the 4th is like 

912
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,760
the son of God. 
Let's see what the ESV has to 

913
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,560
say. 
But I see four men unbound 

914
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,680
walking in the midst of the 
fire, and they are not hurt. 

915
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,320
And the appearance of the 4th is
like a son of the gods. 

916
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,840
Why do you change that? 
Well there's no way that 

917
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,680
Nebuchadnezzar could have known 
what the son of God looked like.

918
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,040
The only thing that he would 
have had as a reference is what 

919
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,480
the a son of the gods might have
looked like. 

920
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,080
So that's why we changed it and 
said son of the gods. 

921
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,840
You're taking the miracle away 
from what God did there and 

922
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,360
showed Nebuchadnezzar that it 
was not just a son of the gods. 

923
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,840
What he was looking at was an 
pre Incarnate appearance of 

924
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,280
Jesus Christ and you completely 
changed that because of your own

925
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,120
finite understanding and because
you don't believe in the 

926
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:30,480
miracles that God can do. 
Let me give you this one. 

927
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,240
This is the last one. 
First John chapter 5 and verse 

928
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:41,040
#7 For there are three that bear
record in heaven, the Father, 

929
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,720
the Word, and the Holy Ghost, 
and these three are one. 

930
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:49,800
It's one of the greatest verses 
that we have on the Trinity 

931
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,640
because it puts all of those in 
the same place and very clearly 

932
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,800
says that God the Father, God 
the Son, and God the Holy Spirit

933
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,320
are all one. 
Here's what the ESV and the NIV,

934
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,680
by the way, I'm saying ESV, the 
NIV does the exact same thing on

935
00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:07,400
all of these verses. 
Here's what the ESV says, for 

936
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,720
there are three that testify. 
You think we changed some 

937
00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:14,760
doctrine when we change the 
version of the Bible? 

938
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,080
Absolutely. 
Things that are different cannot

939
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,240
be the same. 
And they're very clearly not. 

940
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,400
And there are many, many, many 
more examples. 

941
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,000
There are, there are, and I'm 
going to get this wrong, but I 

942
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,760
know there's, there's over 8000 
changes between the King James 

943
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,120
Version and the ESV, the NIV and
many of these other versions. 

944
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,200
And I, and I'm going low. 
I believe it's much, much, much 

945
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:45,680
higher than that. 8000 changes 
and not just inconsequential 

946
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:50,400
changes, not just changing thee 
and thou to you, by the way, you

947
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,840
take those things out, you take 
out meanings as well. 

948
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:58,000
Thee and thou is singular Ye and
you are plural, right? 

949
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,040
It's it went. 
Oh, we got to update it because 

950
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,920
people just don't speak like 
that anymore. 

951
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,040
They didn't speak like that then
either. 

952
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:10,280
They didn't speak like that. 
Read the read the, the, the, 

953
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,880
what do you call it? 
The preface to the King James 

954
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,040
Version? 
They don't, they didn't speak 

955
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,440
like that. 
They didn't say thee and thou 

956
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,000
and all this stuff in the 
preface that the translators 

957
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,760
wrote. 
They didn't write like that, but

958
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,960
they gave the Bible that 
language because it's a 

959
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:28,600
beautiful language to use and 
it's very specific language that

960
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,640
they used. 
That's why they used it. 

961
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,120
It wasn't just because they, 
they decided that, you know, 

962
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,600
we're going to give this old 
Victorian English and leave it 

963
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,160
there. 
No, it's because God gave that 

964
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,200
to them. 
There were 55 men that God used 

965
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,600
to give us an accurate 
translation of God's Word in our

966
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,600
English language to perfectly 
preserve His Word as He promised

967
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,160
that He would do. 
When you start messing with 

968
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,920
God's word, it's not just a 
different way to say the same 

969
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,520
thing. 
You are taking things out of 

970
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,800
God's Word that matter very, 
very much. 

971
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,800
And you know their argument. 
If you were to talk to somebody 

972
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,600
who defends the, the ESV or the 
NIV, their argument would be, 

973
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,280
well, it says the same thing in 
other places. 

974
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:13,640
Then why do you need to take it 
out? 

975
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:19,320
Why do you need to change it? 
You're taking away the things 

976
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,360
that are important, the blood of
Christ. 

977
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:23,800
You take the blood of Christ 
out. 

978
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,800
You take the Trinity completely 
out of the Bible. 

979
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,520
By the way, the whole 
second-half of the last chapter 

980
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,720
of Mark is missing in all of 
those Bibles as well. 

981
00:49:31,720 --> 00:49:35,440
Many of your translations take 
the whole second-half of Mark 16

982
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,880
completely out of the Bible, and
if they have it in there, it 

983
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:44,280
says the oldest and more most 
reliable manuscripts remove this

984
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:49,200
portion of the Bible. 
If you can't trust God's Word, 

985
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:54,000
that you have God's Word in your
hand in the English language, 

986
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,440
then you can doubt any part of 
God's word that you don't feel 

987
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,280
like taking a hold of. 
And it's exactly what we're what

988
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,640
we see happening. 
You see a lot of most of it's 

989
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,640
happening in your Methodist and 
you Universalist churches and 

990
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,160
things like that. 
And they're saying, well, God 

991
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,240
was a bigot. 
And these men who wrote these 

992
00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:16,440
things and you know, they said 
that God gave them those words, 

993
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,760
but these men were bigots 
because that's the that's the 

994
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,200
age that they lived in. 
And so, you know, the things 

995
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,280
that they say. 
I mean, I heard, I heard a 

996
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,000
woman, it was just a little 
clip. 

997
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,320
I'm not watching women 
preachers. 

998
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,040
I can promise you that much. 
But I saw a little clip and this

999
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,640
woman said Paul was really a 
bully. 

1000
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,560
The things that Paul wrote. 
I mean, you know, we have to 

1001
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,960
take everything that Paul wrote 
with a grain of salt because he 

1002
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,800
was a bully. 
That's that's the way they view 

1003
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,960
God's word. 
But when you start messing with 

1004
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,880
it and you start giving 
translations of God's word that 

1005
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,680
don't say anything because 
you're trying to be everything 

1006
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,600
to everybody, that's when you 
end up with that women 

1007
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,880
preachers, homosexuals, people 
who are an abomination to God in

1008
00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:00,800
the pulpit, getting up and 
trying to lead people down a 

1009
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,280
direction. 
I was going to say God's people,

1010
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,080
but I don't think they are. 
Most of them, if not all of 

1011
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,560
them, are not saved. 
They don't understand the truth.

1012
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,840
And it's sad. 
It's really sad. 

1013
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,480
But all that to say that that 
it's that, that there is a 

1014
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:18,080
necessity for separation. 
We're not just separating 

1015
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,400
because we want to be different.
We're not just separating 

1016
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,760
because we don't feel like being
like them or they decided to do 

1017
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,520
it this way. 
We just decided to do it that 

1018
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,200
way. 
No separation is necessary if 

1019
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:35,680
we're going to keep God's church
pure and the Bible matters, and 

1020
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,120
doctrine matters, and music 
matters and the way we dress 

1021
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,000
matters. 
All of those things matter 

1022
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,880
because those are the things 
that are helping to keep God's 

1023
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:48,120
church pure the way that He told
us we should be keeping His 

1024
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,720
church pure. 
I don't want any of the world in

1025
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:54,240
this church. 
I don't want any influence of 

1026
00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:58,080
the, the, the rottenness of the 
world to come into this church. 

1027
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,400
And we get comfortable with it 
and we accept it. 

1028
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,920
And if you're going to accept 
some, then you got to accept all

1029
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,880
of it because there's some 
things that certain people like 

1030
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,400
and some things that other 
people like. 

1031
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,640
And you like the music. 
And so we accept that. 

1032
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,360
And you like the dress. 
So we accept that. 

1033
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,560
If we start accepting some of 
it, we end up accepting all of 

1034
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,280
it. 
So how do you keep the church 

1035
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:17,920
pure? 
You keep it all out. 

1036
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,480
You keep it all out. 
I don't even want a drop of mud 

1037
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,880
in my water, right? 
How many would would say that? 

1038
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,480
Give me give me a drink of 
water. 

1039
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,200
OK, Let me just put one drop of 
mud in it. 

1040
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,160
I don't want that cup of water. 
It's got a drop of mud in it. 

1041
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,400
Well, it doesn't have a whole 
scoop of mud in it. 

1042
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:34,920
It's just a drop. 
Why don't you do? 

1043
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,640
Why can't you drink it? 
Well, I don't want it because 

1044
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,760
it's got dirt in the in the 
water, right? 

1045
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,200
And the same thing is true with 
the church. 

1046
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,960
I don't want even a drop of the 
impurity of the world. 

1047
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,680
Well, it's not a ton of the 
world. 

1048
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,000
Can't we just have a little bit 
of it? 

1049
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,840
No, I don't want any of it. 
I want it pure the way that 

1050
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:56,960
Christ wants it pure. 
So separation matters and it's 

1051
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,920
and it's important. 
And these are just a few of the 

1052
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,000
reasons why. 
Let's pray. 

1053
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,960
Father, again, we thank you so 
much for your goodness to us, 

1054
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,800
and thank you for the 
opportunity that we have to be 

1055
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,680
here together tonight. 
I pray that this is a help. 

1056
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:09,720
God, may we help. 
May we keep the church pure the 

1057
00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:11,480
way that you want the church to 
be pure. 

1058
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,440
May you help us to stand strong 
against the onslaught of not 

1059
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,200
just the world, but of the 
churches who are trying to bring

1060
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,600
the world into the church and 
trying to pretend that all of us

1061
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,680
have to do the exact same thing.
God, may you help us not for the

1062
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,680
sake of pride, but for the sake 
of purity and for the sake of 

1063
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,720
the truth. 
May you help us to stand strong 

1064
00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:32,720
against the things that would 
come into our church and make it

1065
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:35,280
impure. 
God, may you help us to be what 

1066
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,760
you want us to be. 
Thank you again for all you do 

1067
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,520
for us in Jesus name, Amen. 
If you stand at your seats with 

1068
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,240
the heads bowed in your eyes 
closed, I want to give you an 

1069
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:44,600
opportunity to respond. 
I know this is more of a 

1070
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,200
teaching type message than a 
preaching message, but maybe you

1071
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,000
need to ask the Lord to help you
stand strong. 

1072
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,240
Or maybe, maybe some of these 
things are new to you. 

1073
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,560
You need to make some decisions 
to change some of these things 

1074
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,840
yourself, because they matter. 
They matter. 

1075
00:53:57,720 --> 00:53:59,000
However, the Lord spoke to your 
heart. 

1076
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,440
Tonight, as the piano plays the 
invitations open, you come.