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All right, I need a copy of the 
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Anybody not remember to bring 
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I need a copy. 
All right, we got a couple. 

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All right, Chuck, up here. 
There we go. 

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There's a there should be. 
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What are you passing out? 
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Oh, that's Part 1. 
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Let's say Part 2. 
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Part 2 and three? 
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You need Part 3 as well. 
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Part 3 tonight. 
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copies, raise your hand again. 
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been together. 
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Thessalonians, chapter one, 
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We're going to get into this 
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was, I was thinking about this 
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And I think this is something 
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point out. 
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people to come in contact with 
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a better term, just goofy 
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with. 
You know, there's, there's a lot

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of stuff out there nowadays, you
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Earth, you know, I mean, just so
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are just they, they get 
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One of the things that that is 
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reformed theology. 
Everybody's jumping off on the 

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reformed theology bandwagon. 
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that comes from the fact that 
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understand Reformed theology, 
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understand it, then it's not 
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the Bible. 
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with it and it wasn't God. 
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that's a lot of where this comes
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than you that I can get dig deep
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getting deep into the Bible. 
Don't, don't, don't get me wrong

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on that. 
We should be studying deeply as 

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deep as we can understand into 
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But you know, it used to be for 
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get off on a wrong doctrine or 
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either go to a bookstore and 
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sit down in the library or maybe
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single day. 
Now all you have to do is get on

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the Internet and everybody is a 
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This guy, it could be somebody 
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never even been to church in the
last three years. 

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But he's a theologian and you're
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somebody who doesn't believe in 
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believe that, you know, who 
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But but everybody has a platform
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My point with saying that is you
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who you read, who you listen to,
who you study, who you take your

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doctrine from. 
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in the Internet and he sounds 
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he's right. 
You've got to be very careful 

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about that, especially if you 
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strong in your faith, especially
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understand, right. 
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person that comes along and 
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take the class and expect that 
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doctrines right from the Word of
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Doctrine matters and if doctrine
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doctrine from matters just as 
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So you have to be very careful 
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You know, one of the greatest 
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technology with the Internet 
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thousands of teachers right into
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You can find it. 
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that's saying anything you want 
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You want to find somebody that 
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Somebody is on there telling you
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women preachers and and women in
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you know, tells you that that 
separation and standards and all

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of those things are outdated and
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they're doing, they're taking 
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that looks like it could be 
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study the Bible themselves. 
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word of truth. 
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that you're jumping off on 
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convincing and now you're just 
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And, and now you, you come and 
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happened, all right, but now you
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wrong because this guy in the 
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in the Bible, that's what the 
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Get in the Bible yourself, study
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You figure out what the Bible is
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other people have to say about 
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Maybe you have to say, oh, you 
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Maybe I, maybe I, maybe I did 
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the right way. 
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of view. 
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Oh, man, I wonder what that 
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Let me go see what this guy in 
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And oh, this is what that 
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My pastor is wrong because this 
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this is what that passage means.
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the right way. 
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Nobody came to me and said that.
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So I'm not, I'm not getting on 
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I'm just saying you have to be 
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listen to, who you watch, who 
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you can find anything you want 
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And this, this actually was a 
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best was a baby Christian. 
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himself to be an expert. 
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on Wednesday night, he has got 
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verses in there and looking up 
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it, raising his hand and saying,
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That's not what this passage is 
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This guy said blah blah blah and
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people. 
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people. 
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Americans to tell them that. 
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times what, what people think 
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to hide something. 
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what other people have to say, 
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something. 
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to, you know, and, and 
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conspiracy. 
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to read and learn from whoever 
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want to. 
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your pastor is to help you be 
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that are coming in in sheep's 
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And there are lots and lots and 
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it's so prevalent on the 
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hear. 
If that's not an indication that

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there's a lot of people out 
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biblical, then I don't know what
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My job is to protect you from 
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get you off on these wrong 
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So you want to know what a 
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I'm not saying, you know, call 
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hey, pastor, what does this 
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But I'll have a discussion with 
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you some good resources. 
That's the reason why we have so

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many of the books that we have 
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It's those are resources. 
Go, go read them. 

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That's, that's why we have them 
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They're there for you to have 
something to study that I know 

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is safe. 
You, you can't be here for very 

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every message that I preach, 

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everything that I teach, I have 
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opinion. 
I'm, it's from God's word. 

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And the people who I read, I 
read people as well, right? 

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The people who I read have been 
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They've proven themselves that 
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biblicist, that they, that they 
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going to read it in a literal 
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stick with only the King James 
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are, that you're going to get 
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I'm saying, I don't, I don't 
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I don't think that's what the 
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And I dig into the Bible for 
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I have, I have 3 or 4 

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commentaries that I really like.
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I better figure out what that 

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passage is saying before I just 
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because I really like the way 
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saying, right? 
It's very, very, very important 

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that we study. 
Somebody wrote this, a pastor 

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wrote this. 
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very few Christians are mature 
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social media. 
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other things, A1 world church 
tool that promotes unbiblical 

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doctrines and heresies through 
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exposure to philosophy of the 
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It is a place where one can 
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understanding and reason is a 
place where the individual can 

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gather agreement for anything he
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promote from the smorgasbord of 
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Do born again believers not know
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That's how we concluded. 
I think it's really good. 

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ever learning and never able to 
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truth. 
I think that's what the Internet

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has kind of produced with a lot 
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A lot of people that just get 
all of their theology from, 

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they're too lazy to read the 
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So I'll just go listen to what 
this guy says it is and he's got

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to be right because I like the 
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You've got to be very, very, 
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And, and obviously, you know, 
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the younger generation that is 
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carnal. 
And you know, we, we're trying 

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to get them excited and get them
to have a zeal for the things of

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the word of God. 
But sometimes what happens is in

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that zeal, and not even just 
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this happens with a lot. 
They get so excited about the 

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word of God and, and, and so 
much zeal in the word of God 

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that they, it's a zeal without 
knowledge is what the Bible 

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says. 
That's what the Bible does. 

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That's what the Bible says that 
a pastor ought not to be a 

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novice. 
You know what novice means? 

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I mean, somebody that doesn't 
have a lot of exposure to God's 

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word, right? 
You might have, you might, you 

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might get saved and you might 
study the word of God every day 

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for that year. 
You've read through the Bible 

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three times. 
That's a good start, right? 

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But that's just getting a, 
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That's just getting a 
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You're still a novice in God's 
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It takes time, it takes, it 
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takes going through those. 
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there's a lot of Calvinist 
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dispensationalist pastors out 
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doctrine or on, on a, on a wrong
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the wrong person, right? 
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that's out there, but part of my
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it's right or why it's wrong. 
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That's why the Bible says broad 
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destruction. 
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to life. 
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are right and the other 10% are 
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It's the other way around. 90% 
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Maybe 10% of them are, right. 
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all right. 
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thinking about that is because 
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issues, right? 
There's a lot of people out 

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doctrine with as many verses as 
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eternal security in the context 
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It's you can't say that it's not
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It is a Bible doctrine, but for 
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security is not a biblical 
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wrong people, it's very easy for
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really convincing. 
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right. 
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sheep's clothing is? 
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He's not wearing a tattered. 
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that term, basically a wolf in 
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I mean, he's not, he's not 
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clothing that you're like, 
you're a wolf and you're just 

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trying to pretend you're a 
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No, he looks like a sheep. 
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about that. 
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that that look so good and 
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And people will heap to 
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having itching ears, not the 
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It's the people they want to 
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That's exactly what the Bible is
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I mean, it's almost like the 
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going to come along someday and 
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that you have at your fingertips
that you can listen to and get 

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doctrine from, and they can be 
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ears. 
Go study the Bible for yourself.

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And if you don't know how to do 
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find the book that says how to 
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It's a thick book in there, or 
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It's probably a hundred 120 
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study the Bible for yourself. 
Great tool. 

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All right, we have so many of 
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It's not just a plug for the 
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It's the reason I have the 
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take the time to go through all 
of these resources and to make 

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sure that they fit in line with 
what the Bible teaches is 

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because I don't want you to have
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go online to some bookstore and 
say, man, I hope this book is 

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OK. 
Let me try it out and see, 

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right, you can trust everything 
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It's all been vetted. 
It will all help you to study 

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God's Word and it's going to 
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not the wrong 1. 
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that when it comes to this idea 
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We're going to look at 2 
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Does the doctrine of eternal 

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security mean that anyone who 
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life? 
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the disobedient believer does 
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does happen to him? 
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Part 2, we've already discussed,
so I'm going to cover it fairly 

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quickly. 
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Part 3, we're going to cover in 
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I'm going to try to cover it 
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All right, I know trying to get 
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seems to be pretty adventurous. 
That's not the word I'm looking 

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for, but ambitious. 
That's right. 

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Thank you. 
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maybe you guys should come up 
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But that's a little ambitious. 
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said, I think we can get through
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Got a lot of verses to look at 
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quickly as we can to those. 
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want to start with. 
Does the doctrine of eternal 

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security mean that anyone who 
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life? 
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won't leave it at that. 
The promise of eternal security 

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is only for those who have been 
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Salvation always changes a 
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And the reason that I say that 
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things already is because a lot 
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and faith, repentance and faith,
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When somebody truly repents, 
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that person, OK? 
Salvation #1 demands repentance 

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and we're there in First 
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verse #9 for they themselves 
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entering in we had unto you and 
how ye turned to God from idols 

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to serve the living and true 
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Sure sounds like a giving up of 
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Sure sounds like a change of 
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How come they didn't turn to God
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Because that's not repentance. 
Repentance demands and salvation

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demands repentance and 
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to wait verse 10 for his Son 
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the dead, even Jesus, which 
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come. 
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say as we go through this. 
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mention it, you're almost there 
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fine. 
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Bible is talking about here is 
that God requires repentance for

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salvation. 
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dramatic change of mind 
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It means to surrender to God. 
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God, if there's going to be a 
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is going to be a giving up of 
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the old ways and a change from 
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And I've said this many, many, 
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it. 
You don't change in order to be 

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saved, but you changed because 
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I'm not reforming my life 
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take me to heaven. 
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I'm changing my life because I 
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and I'm not that person anymore.
I'm going in a totally different

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direction. 
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about. 
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Thessalonica exemplify biblical 
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They turned to God from idols to
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Second Corinthians chapter 5 and
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the, one of the powerful verses 
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that repentance is a change in 
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John 3 verse #7 Jesus said you 
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Born again is a dramatic change.
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birth. 
It's a miracle that God does for

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a new believer. 
It's a dramatic transformation. 

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Second Corinthians chapter 5 and
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man be in Christ, he is what a 
new creature, old things are 

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passed away. 
Behold, all things are become 

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new, right? 
That's a change that's I'm not 

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who I used to be. 
There is something different 

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about me, right? 
This, this, this idea. 

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And I've, I've heard people say 
this before and, and I've, you 

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know, read many stories of, of 
people saying this, especially 

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in the, in the books where 
they're trying to get a ton of 

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people saved. 
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salvation contests and all of 
these things where they're 

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trying to see who can lead the 
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What if I told you that you 
could keep living your life 

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exactly the way that you're 
living your life and you can 

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still go to heaven? 
Would you want that? 

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Who wouldn't? 
All you have to do is believe 

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that Jesus died on the cross to 
pay for your sins and you can go

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to heaven when you die. 
Do you believe that? 

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Yes. 
Well, do you want to pray and 

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ask Jesus to come into your 
heart? 

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Yes. 
OK, you're saved. 

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No, you're not saved. 
That's not salvation. 

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That is not repentance. 
There's no repentance in it. 

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There's probably not even really
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there's no repentance in it. 
You cannot continue to live your

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life in the same way that you're
living your life and expect that

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there has been a change, that 
there's been repentance. 

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So that salvation requires a new
birth, and a new birth changes a

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man's life #3 those who are 
saved hear Christ's voice and 

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follow him. 
So there's 3 verses here in John

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chapter 10 that all go hand in 
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You cannot separate the one from
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And that's what a lot of people 
try to do. 

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They take verses as I just 
mentioned, out of context and 

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make it say something that it 
was not meant to say. 

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You can say if you read in verse
28, I give unto them eternal 

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life, and they shall never 
perish, neither shall any man 

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pluck them out of my hand. 
That's for all of those who 

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accept Christ as their Savior. 
That's for all of those who 

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believe on Jesus Christ, Right? 
But Jesus gives the definition 

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of a true believer who has 
eternal life. 

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Jesus is sheep hear his voice, 
meaning they respond to his 

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word, and they follow Christ, 
meaning they submit to him as 

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disciples. 
That's what verse 27 says. 

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My sheep hear my voice and I 
know them and they follow me. 

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Somebody who has not had one 
minute of change in their life 

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is not following the voice of 
God, right? 

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I believe I'm I'm a Christian. 
I'm a believer. 

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No, no change in your life 
whatsoever. 

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No forsaking the old ways and 
turning to God. 

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No, no change of mind that leads
to a change of direction. 

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You're not hearing the 
Shepherd's voice because you're 

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not following him or or you 
would, right? 

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So what we're saying here is the
promise of verse 28 and 29. 

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I give unto them eternal life, 
and they shall never perish, 

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neither shall any man pluck them
out of my, my hand. 

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My Father which gave them Me is 
greater than all. 

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And no man is able to pluck them
out of my Father's hand. 

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So you have Jesus's hand. 
I mentioned this the last week. 

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You have Jesus holding them in 
their hands, in his hand, and 

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then the Father holding them in 
his hand. 

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There's no way that you're 
getting out of there. 

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You're secure, right? 
But the promises of verse 28 and

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29 cannot be divorced from the 
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You have to take all of those 
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Who is it that has eternal life?
Who is it that nobody can pluck 

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out of Jesus's hand? 
Who is it that nobody can pluck 

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out of the Father's hand? 
It's the sheep that hears voice 

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and follow them. 
Follow Him. 

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That's who it is. 
All right, we have another one 

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that's almost the exact same way
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Turn over there. 
Those who are saved hear 

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Christ's voice and follow Him. 
But saving faith always produces

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holy works. 
And again, I'm not going to take

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the time to go all the way 
through the entire book of James

449
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,840
because we already did that. 
But how many times do we see in 

450
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:45,040
the book of James that works 
follows salvation, works follows

451
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,200
repentance, right? 
Not for salvation, but because 

452
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,800
of it. 
And it will be evident. 

453
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,160
It will be obvious. 
Ephesians 2, eight through 10 

454
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,120
describes the proper 
relationship between faith and 

455
00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:57,440
works. 
It's faith that saves us and 

456
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,360
works that follow as a result. 
The works in the Christian life 

457
00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:04,240
are God's works in the believer.
Thus there is no glory for man. 

458
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,000
But to mix works together with 
faith for salvation is a false 

459
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,200
gospel. 
Look Ephesians chapter 2, verse 

460
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,280
8. 
For by grace are you saved 

461
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,960
through faith, and that not of 
yourselves. 

462
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,840
That is the gift of God, not of 
works less than any man should 

463
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,560
boast. 
All of that is Jesus's part. 

464
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,000
That's all on him. 
For we are his workmanship, 

465
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,680
created in Christ Jesus unto 
good works which God hath before

466
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,520
ordained, that we should walk in
them. 

467
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,720
What is, what is preordained, 
right? 

468
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,440
We read it, we read about that 
in Romans, right? 

469
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,840
And the preordained is that some
are going to be saved and some 

470
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,960
are not going to be saved. 
And you're preordained to go to 

471
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,760
heaven. 
You're preordained to be damned 

472
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,840
to hell, right? 
That's what preordination is. 

473
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,600
No, it's not. 
He's talking about two good 

474
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,760
works, right? 
And if you read the context of 

475
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,640
that passage, it says the exact 
same thing. 

476
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,120
But what is he? 
What is he ordaining us to? 

477
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,040
He which God hath before 
ordained that we should walk in 

478
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,120
them. 
What is them? 

479
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,520
Good works. 
OK, so if God has before 

480
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,680
ordained that we should walk in 
good works, who is he talking 

481
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,520
about here? 
The people who are saved, right?

482
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,400
For by grace are ye saved 
through faith, and that not of 

483
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,120
yourselves. 
It is the gift of God, not of 

484
00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:21,360
works, lest any man should 
boast. 

485
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,640
We then those who are saved are 
his workmanship in Christ Jesus 

486
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,480
created unto good works, that we
should walk in them, right? 

487
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,960
Which God hath before ordained 
that we should walk in them. 

488
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,760
So it's also true that holy 
works follow saving faith. 

489
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,080
James describes a Christian life
from man's perspective. 

490
00:23:40,360 --> 00:23:42,640
If a man says he has faith and 
does not have anything in his 

491
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,280
life to back it up, he does not 
have saving faith, right? 

492
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:46,800
In fact, let's go over there and
look at that. 

493
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,680
We're not going to, we're not 
going to go through the entire 

494
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,480
passage, but let's go to James 
chapter 2. 

495
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,920
Many times James mentions this 
faith without works is dead. 

496
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:03,760
But James chapter 2 and verse 
#14 what does it profit, my 

497
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,960
brethren? 
Though a man say he hath faith 

498
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,640
and have not works, Can faith 
save him? 

499
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,760
If a brother or sister be naked 
and death due to daily food, and

500
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,400
one of you saying to them depart
in peace, be your warmed and 

501
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,640
filled, notwithstanding you give
them not those things which are 

502
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,760
needful to the body, What does 
it profit? 

503
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,800
You see what he's saying here? 
It's all just empty words. 

504
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,200
Oh, oh, you need clothes. 
OK, go, go in peace and be warm.

505
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,120
But you didn't do anything. 
You didn't put any clothes on 

506
00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:29,960
them. 
How are they going to go in 

507
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,080
peace and be warm? 
It's just, it's just words, 

508
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,640
right? 
What he's saying is faith 

509
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,160
without works. 
Because then he concludes with 

510
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,480
that verse #17 Even so, faith, 
if it hath not works, is dead, 

511
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,440
being alone. 
Faith in works go hand in hand, 

512
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,000
right? 
If you're saved, you're going to

513
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,920
have the works that prove that 
you're saved. 

514
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,640
You're not doing it to stay 
saved. 

515
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,960
You're not doing it to be saved,
but you're doing it because you 

516
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,480
are saved and there's going to 
be an evidence that you are. 

517
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,880
So then #5 let's go over to 1st 
John chapter 2. 

518
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,120
First John chapter 2. 
The Bible says that true 

519
00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:04,880
believers keep God's 
commandments and purify 

520
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,000
themselves. 
First John chapter 2 and verse 

521
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,640
#4 he that saith, I know him. 
Who would that be? 

522
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,960
Those who claim to be saved, 
right? 

523
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,840
Those who claim to be 
Christians, he that says I know 

524
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:23,320
him and keepeth not his 
commandments is a liar and the 

525
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,080
truth is not in him. 
So if, if, if you don't keep his

526
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,960
commandments, you're a liar, the
truth's not in you. 

527
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,880
Then what do you not do? 
You don't know him, right? 

528
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,400
You say you know him, but you 
don't keep his commandments. 

529
00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:38,240
You're a liar and there's no 
truth in you. 

530
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,920
That means you don't know him. 
Claim that you know Him, but if 

531
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,440
you don't keep His commandments,
you don't, right? 

532
00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:49,920
Verse number or chapter 3. 
Verse #2 Beloved now, are we the

533
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,960
sons of God? 
And it does not yet appear what 

534
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,160
we shall be. 
But we know that when He shall 

535
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,320
appear, we shall be like Him, 
for we shall see Him as He is. 

536
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:02,720
And every man that hath this 
hope in Him purifies himself 

537
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,160
even as he is pure. 
What's the hope? 

538
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:11,320
What's the hope? 
Heaven, He's coming back, right?

539
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,320
So what he's saying does not 
appear what we shall be, but we 

540
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,720
know that when he shall appear, 
we shall be like him, for we 

541
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,120
shall see him as he is. 
Everybody that has this hope 

542
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:24,960
does what purifies himself, who 
has the hope that God's, that 

543
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,840
Jesus Christ is coming back for 
us someday? 

544
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,320
The saved, right? 
So if you're saved and you have 

545
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,200
that hope, then what are you 
going to do? 

546
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,560
You're going to purify yourself.
So then let's do the opposite of

547
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,720
that. 
Somebody who says they're saved 

548
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,400
but doesn't purify themselves 
because he could come back. 

549
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,000
What's the only conclusion that 
we can draw from that? 

550
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,400
Probably you're not saved right 
now. 

551
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,960
You can still be a Christian in 
sin, all right? 

552
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,720
You can still be a Christian 
living in sin. 

553
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,760
We're going to talk about that 
in the next lesson. 

554
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,640
But there's a good indication 
then that you're not saved. 

555
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,480
The promise of verse 2 cannot be
divorced from the evidence of 

556
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,120
verse 3, Right? 
Here's the promise. 

557
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,000
He's coming back for us. 
I have this hope that he's 

558
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,840
coming back. 
But verse 3 is, and every man 

559
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,680
that hath this hope purifies 
himself. 

560
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,960
So if you don't purify yourself,
you don't have that hope. 

561
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,160
That's basically what he's 
saying. 

562
00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:25,960
And what Brother Cloud is saying
here in this fifth point is the 

563
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,760
promise that he's coming back 
for you cannot be divorced from 

564
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,400
the fact that if he really is 
coming back for you, you're 

565
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,960
going to live a pure life. 
Number six, the Bible warns 

566
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,040
about those who profess Christ 
but do not obey him. 

567
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,800
Titus chapter 1. 
Let's turn over there. 

568
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,840
They are false professors, false
professors. 

569
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,520
And we see a lot of this. 
In fact, Titus talks a lot about

570
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,600
exactly what I was just talking 
about, false teachers. 

571
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,880
But Titus chapter one verse #16 
Let's go back to verse 15. 

572
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,960
Unto the pure all things are 
pure, but unto them that are 

573
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,440
defiled and unbelieving is 
nothing pure, but even their 

574
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,120
mind and conscience is defiled. 
They profess that they know God,

575
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,760
but in works they deny Him, 
being abominable and 

576
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,680
disobedient, and unto every good
work reprobate. 

577
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,880
That is exactly what our 
question is. 

578
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,080
Does the doctrine of eternal 
security mean that anyone who 

579
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,720
professes Christ has eternal 
life? 

580
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,680
Well, here's somebody who is 
professing to know Christ, 

581
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,480
right? 
That's what he's saying. 

582
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,280
They profess that they know God,
but it works. 

583
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,080
They deny him, and they're 
abominable and disobedient and 

584
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,560
reprobate. 
So to go on to the next page, if

585
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,920
a person claims to have faith in
Christ, but his life doesn't 

586
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,480
reflect that he's deceived, A 
fruitless profession of faith 

587
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,240
cannot lay claim to God's 
promises of eternal security. 

588
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,840
If an individual professes 
Christ and then turns away, 

589
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,480
that's evidence that he was 
never saved, right? 

590
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,280
So does the doctrine of eternal 
security 'cause people to live 

591
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,680
carelessly? 
Well, I suppose that it could, 

592
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,720
right? 
We're in Titus chapter 2. 

593
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,320
Look at verse #11 For the grace 
of God that bringeth salvation 

594
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,160
hath appeared to all men, 
teaching us that, denying 

595
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,040
ungodliness and worldly lust, we
should live soberly, 

596
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,880
righteously, and godly in this 
present world, looking for that 

597
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,520
blessed hope in the glorious 
appearing of our great God. 

598
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,000
Of the great God and our Savior 
Jesus Christ, who gave Himself 

599
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,120
for us, that He might redeem us 
from all iniquity, and purify 

600
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,440
unto Himself a peculiar people, 
zealous of good works. 

601
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,000
So those who don't believe in 
the doctrine of eternal security

602
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,120
say that it causes people to 
live carelessly. 

603
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,040
Well, you can if, if you can, if
you can't lose your salvation, 

604
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,160
then you can go live your life 
however you want to. 

605
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,880
And it just, it encourages you 
to live your life however you 

606
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,360
want to because you know that 
you can't lose your salvation. 

607
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,560
If you can lose your salvation, 
it makes you want to live for 

608
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,160
Christ. 
Because I don't want to lose 

609
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,680
what I have, right? 
Well, in fact, the opposite is 

610
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,560
true, the cloud said. 
I began my preaching career in 

611
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,720
part of Tennessee where 
Methodists had predominated for 

612
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,480
a couple centuries. 
The doctrine of losing your 

613
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,560
salvation had devastated that 
area. 

614
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,080
It was filled with people who 
had tried to live the Christian 

615
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,320
life and failed and now lived 
like the devil. 

616
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,160
That's exactly what happens, 
right? 

617
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:13,240
If you know that you cannot lose
your salvation, you realize what

618
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,560
a wonderful thing you have that 
motivates you to live for the 

619
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,080
Lord. 
They their argument is the exact

620
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,880
opposite. 
Well, if you know that you can 

621
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,280
lose that, that you can't lose 
your salvation, you can just go 

622
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,680
live how you want to and that's 
going to motivate you to not 

623
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,120
live for the Lord. 
No, exactly what Brother Cloud 

624
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,320
is saying is exactly what 
happens so often. 

625
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,280
You try so hard and you realize 
you can't do it on your own. 

626
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,880
And then you never know if 
you're saved or not. 

627
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,400
And you don't have any kind of 
security that you, when you die,

628
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,520
you're going to go to heaven. 
What's the point of doing all 

629
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,440
this anyway? 
Then they quit and they go live 

630
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,280
like the devil. 
That's exactly what happens in 

631
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,440
many of these places where they 
don't believe in eternal 

632
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,360
security. 
But the Bible teaches that the 

633
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,920
grace of God and motivates 
believers to serve God with a 

634
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,920
thankful heart. 
And we read that in Romans 2, 

635
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,200
Ephesians chapter 3. 
The more a believer understands 

636
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,800
the unfathomable love that God 
has for him in Christ, the more 

637
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,920
he wants to please God first. 
John 419 We love him because he 

638
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,920
first loved us. 
No, it's not. 

639
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,560
It's not what's the what keeps 
me living for the Lord. 

640
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,480
What is it that keeps me living 
for the Lord? 

641
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,720
His love for me, right? 
I know what He gave me. 

642
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,080
I know what I have in Him. 
I have eternal life. 

643
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,640
Could I go jump off the deep end
and live my life however I want 

644
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,360
to right now? 
Absolutely I could. 

645
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,840
And I could still go to heaven 
because I know I'm saved. 

646
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,360
But the reason I don't do those 
things is not because I can't. 

647
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,080
It's because I don't want to. 
For the love of Christ 

648
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,400
constraineth us. 
I don't want to go do those 

649
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,360
things because I know what He's 
done for me. 

650
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,680
I know what He saved me from. 
That's why I have the motivation

651
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,880
to live for him. 
It does the exact opposite. 

652
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,960
I'm not trying to do this to to 
get myself to heaven. 

653
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,480
I'm not trying to do this so 
that I can, you know, have a 

654
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,960
higher, higher rung or a bigger 
mansion or any of those kind of 

655
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,240
things. 
Those those things are already 

656
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,960
promised to me. 
I can't lose that because I know

657
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,960
I'm saved. 
But I don't want to live like 

658
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,760
the world. 
I don't want to live like the 

659
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,560
old man. 
I don't want to live like who I 

660
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,040
used to be because I know that 
what I have is something that's 

661
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,440
far more valuable than what I 
had before. 

662
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,520
I accept the Christ as my 
Savior. 

663
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,680
So the true grace of God teaches
people to live holy lives. 

664
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,400
And that's what we're saying 
there in Titus chapter 2 verse 

665
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,880
#11 So let's go on to Part 3. 
Then a third question, I guess 

666
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,960
what this would be, but a second
main question. 

667
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,800
If the disobedient believer does
not lose his salvation, then 

668
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,600
what does happen to him? 
OK, well, isn't that a 

669
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,800
motivation? 
The doctrine of eternal security

670
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,520
causes people to live carelessly
because they know they can't 

671
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,640
lose it. 
I suppose that's a possibility. 

672
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,080
But what happens to the believer
who knows that he's eternally 

673
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,560
secure, knows that he cannot 
lose his salvation, but he's 

674
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,200
disobedient to the Word of God? 
Well, we have a few things here.

675
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,400
Number one, let's go over to 1st
John chapter 1. 

676
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,960
We're not too far from there. 
The sinning believer is out of 

677
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,560
fellowship with the Lord and his
people. 

678
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,520
First John chapter 1 and verse 
#3. 

679
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:20,040
Well, really verse 3 through 7 
that which we have seen and 

680
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,880
heard, declare we unto you, that
she also may have fellowship 

681
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,560
with us. 
And truly our fellowship is with

682
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,440
the Father, and with his Son 
Jesus Christ. 

683
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,840
And these things right we unto 
you, that your joy may be full. 

684
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,600
This then is the message which 
we have heard of him, and 

685
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,800
declare unto you that God is 
light, and in Him is no darkness

686
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,640
at all. 
We say that we have fellowship 

687
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,440
with Him and walk in darkness. 
We lie and do not the truth but 

688
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,600
but if we walk in the light as 
he is in the light, we have 

689
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,840
fellowship one with another and 
the blood of Jesus Christ his 

690
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,480
Son cleanseth us from all sin. 
John's gospel here of first 

691
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,800
John. 
First John really is all about 

692
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,040
our fellowship, right? 
The the, the, the, the 

693
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,600
fellowship that we have with 
God. 

694
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,680
That's kind of the theme of that
whole book John was writing to 

695
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,480
instruct the believers in how to
maintain that fellowship with 

696
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,840
with Jesus. 
So verse #7 is all about verse 

697
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,000
#3 is all about that which we 
have seen and heard and declare 

698
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,239
unto you, that you also may have
fellowship with us. 

699
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,840
And truly our fellowship is with
the Father and with His Son 

700
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,159
Jesus Christ. 
It's all about having that 

701
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:22,480
fellowship with Him. 
We do that by walking in the 

702
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,199
light instead of walking in 
darkness. 

703
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,040
Walking in the light is walking 
in obedience to God's Word. 

704
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,040
Walking in darkness is walking 
in disobedience to God's Word. 

705
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,800
So to live out a fellowship with
Christ means that I'm not 

706
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,239
walking according to God's Word.
And if I'm not walking according

707
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,320
to God's word, then I don't have
that fellowship with him. 

708
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,800
I'm not going to have that 
fellowship with him. 

709
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,719
I don't have the wisdom that he 
can give me. 

710
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,920
I don't have the power that only
comes from him. 

711
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,280
I don't have the blessing that 
he wants to give me. 

712
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,600
So when I get to the point where
I have decisions that I have to 

713
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,520
make in my life and I'm doing it
without God's blessing. 

714
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,880
When I have decisions that I 
have to make and I'm making it 

715
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,480
without God's wisdom. 
When I when I have to get up 

716
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,080
and, and try to share the gospel
with somebody in a crowd or 

717
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,240
one-on-one and I don't have 
God's power, right, I lose all 

718
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:08,040
of that when I'm not living in 
fellowship with God. 

719
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,920
The question that that that I 
think that I think we ought to 

720
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,200
think about often is are you on 
praying ground, right? 

721
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,800
How many times somebody comes to
you and says, Hey, I need you to

722
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,600
pray about this is a really 
serious matter. 

723
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,880
Can you pray about this for me? 
And you say, you're never going 

724
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,160
to say, no, I can't pray. 
I'm not in fellowship with God, 

725
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,360
right? 
You're going to say, yeah, I'll 

726
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,160
pray with you about that. 
And then you start thinking 

727
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,000
about all the things that you're
doing that are not in 

728
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,400
fellowship. 
And man, I haven't been on my 

729
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,880
knees in a while. 
And boy, if I, I mean, if I do 

730
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,520
pray, is my prayer going to be 
the thing that hinders the 

731
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,760
answer because God can't answer 
me because I'm, and you're not 

732
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,920
on praying ground at all, right?
How about, how about living a 

733
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,640
life that's clean before God and
living in fellowship with God so

734
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,720
that when somebody does come and
say, hey, I really need you to 

735
00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:53,400
pray about this. 
Can you pray about this with me?

736
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,120
I can say, yeah, I'll drop it at
my knees right now. 

737
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,160
I'm, I'm in fellowship with God 
and there's nothing that I have 

738
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,440
between me and him. 
I'll go to God on your behalf 

739
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,360
right now. 
And I'm going to trust that 

740
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,520
God's going to answer that 
prayer because there's nothing 

741
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,000
between me and him, right? 
You're out of fellowship with 

742
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,560
him. 
Now You can, you can be a saved 

743
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:16,320
Sinner that's out of fellowship 
with God and you lose all the 

744
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,760
things that come with that 
fellowship, right? 

745
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,000
It's like it's, it's, it's just 
think about it with any 

746
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,520
relationship that you have, 
right? 

747
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,080
You're in fellowship with 
somebody, you have a great 

748
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,840
relationship. 
And then you do something that 

749
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,760
kind of stabs them in the back 
and all the, the jokes that you 

750
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,760
used to, you know, tell together
and all the fun things that you 

751
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,280
used to do and all the, you 
know, the, the inside jokes and 

752
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,880
whatever else that you had with 
each other. 

753
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,720
It just kind of goes away 
because, well, I mean, he 

754
00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:44,960
probably, I mean, we probably 
could joke around again, but I 

755
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,240
know what I did to him and he 
knows what I did to him. 

756
00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:49,080
And so we just kind of, we lost 
it. 

757
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,680
You know, it's, it's not there 
anymore. 

758
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,600
And it happens in relationships,
right? 

759
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,000
It may not even be something 
that you did. 

760
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,240
It might just be that you kind 
of went separate ways and you 

761
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:00,200
don't really hang out very much 
anymore. 

762
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,840
That's exactly what the what the
fellowship with Christ is too, 

763
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,200
right? 
Sometimes you sinned against him

764
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,560
and you know that there's this 
thing between you and him. 

765
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,640
Well, you're not going to come 
to him and ask him to do this 

766
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,560
for you, or ask for his power or
ask for his wisdom when you know

767
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,640
you have something between you 
and Him. 

768
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,480
But sometimes it may not even be
a sin. 

769
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,760
It might just be that you got 
cold and you grew away and you 

770
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,320
haven't been, you know, you 
haven't been in prayer and you 

771
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,320
haven't been in your Bible, and 
you haven't been doing the 

772
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,640
things that you know you're 
supposed to do. 

773
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,480
And that causes the fellowship 
to grow cold too. 

774
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,680
And now somebody comes and says,
hey, I need you to pray about 

775
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,560
this. 
And you say, well, yeah, I'll 

776
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,600
pray about it. 
And you don't because you can't,

777
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,360
right? 
So what happens to a saved 

778
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,360
person, a Christian that that 
can't lose his salvation, but 

779
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,480
he's in sin anyway? 
Well, he's out of fellowship 

780
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,240
with the Lord. 2 The sinning 
believer grieves the Holy Spirit

781
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:52,760
that lives in him. 
Let's go to Ephesians chapter 4.

782
00:37:54,720 --> 00:38:02,840
Ephesians chapter 4. 
Now this whole part here, this 

783
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,480
whole third part of the eternal 
security is, is under the 

784
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,240
assumption that you know Christ 
as your Savior, right? 

785
00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:11,160
And you know that you know 
Christ as your Savior. 

786
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,640
The sitting believer grieves the
Holy Spirit that lives in, in 

787
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:18,280
Ephesians chapter 4 and verse 
#30 and grieve not the Holy 

788
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,640
Spirit of God, whereby ye are 
sealed unto the day of 

789
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,720
redemption. 
OK, You're sealed under the day 

790
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:24,960
of redemption. 
You cannot lose your salvation. 

791
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,720
But what can you do? 
You can grieve the Spirit, 

792
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,600
right? 
So I mean, if you want to, if 

793
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,360
you want one verse on eternal 
security, that's about it right 

794
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,560
there, right? 
You're sealed under the day of 

795
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,760
redemption by that Holy Spirit 
that you can grieve. 

796
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,280
How do you grieve the Holy 
Spirit? 

797
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:48,000
By living for him? 
No, by not living for him, 

798
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,840
right. 
So what this verse is saying is 

799
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,200
you're sealed, the Holy Spirit 
seals you and you're going to 

800
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,400
heaven, but you can grieve him 
at the same time, which means 

801
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,200
you can sin and not lose your 
salvation. 

802
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,880
But don't. 
That's what he's saying. 

803
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,120
Grieve not the Holy Spirit of 
God, whereby you're sealed unto 

804
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,640
the day of redemption. 
So to grieve the Holy Spirit 

805
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,760
means that his ministration in 
my life is hindered. 

806
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,160
He cannot do the things that he 
wants to do through me and in 

807
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,000
me. 
He is the believer's comforter 

808
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,240
and strength and guide and 
teacher. 

809
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:20,440
And when he's grieved, I lose 
that blessing. 

810
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,880
I don't grow spiritually. 
I don't have spiritual power. 

811
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,680
I don't have spiritual 
enlightenment, I don't have 

812
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,040
spiritual wisdom. 
I lose all of the things that 

813
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,960
the Holy Spirit does in the life
of a believer when I grieve him 

814
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,040
#3 the sinning believer is 
helped by the Lord Jesus Christ.

815
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,240
First John chapter 2 probably 
could have stayed over there, 

816
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:45,320
but let's go back to it. 
First John chapter 2 verse #1 My

817
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,520
little children, these things 
right I unto you, that ye sin 

818
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,160
not. 
And if any man sin, we have an 

819
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,920
advocate with the Father, Jesus 
Christ the righteous. 

820
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,360
He is the propitiation for our 
sins, and not for ours only, but

821
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,840
also for the sins of the whole 
world, right? 

822
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,560
So. 
My little children, OK, who is a

823
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:08,320
child who's a child that he's 
talking to here? 

824
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,040
Yes, us right. 
It's the it's the children of 

825
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,640
God. 
It's not just the the the little

826
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,480
kids, it's the children of God. 
So he's saying, my children, 

827
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,800
these things I write unto you 
that you sin not, but if you do 

828
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:25,280
sin, we have an advocate, Jesus 
Christ, the righteous right. 

829
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,960
He's our advocate with the 
Father and he'll be there to to 

830
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,400
go to God on behalf of our sin, 
right? 

831
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:37,640
He's the propitiation. 
He's the he is the the the go 

832
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:42,520
between, if you will, the 
payment for our sin and not for 

833
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,560
ours only, but also for the sins
of the whole world. 

834
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,680
He'll do that for anybody. 
But when we sin, God doesn't 

835
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,200
abandoned us. 
We have an advocate, we have a 

836
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,960
helper. 
The name Jesus means savior and 

837
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,240
he does not cease to be my 
savior when I sin. 

838
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,360
Jesus is there helping me. 
And I've used this illustration 

839
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,040
many times when it comes to the 
the, the the list of all of my 

840
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,560
sins. 
And you accept Christ as your 

841
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,600
savior and that and, and he puts
his name that in, in ran in 

842
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,600
blood over the top of all of 
your sins. 

843
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,080
Well, what happens when you sin 
again still covered under the 

844
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,440
blood of Christ, right? 
He opens the book, he writes 

845
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,480
that sin down and he closes the 
book again, right? 

846
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,560
Grieves him. 
It hurts his heart to have to 

847
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,560
write a sin down that he died 
for, but he still does it and he

848
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,360
still covers it the same way, 
and he'll still go to God on our

849
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:30,840
behalf as an advocate for us #4 
Then the sinning believer is 

850
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,280
chastened by the Father in 
Hebrews chapter 12. 

851
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:42,520
Hebrews chapter 12. 
We like this passage because it 

852
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,160
talks about wherefore seeing we 
also are compassed about. 

853
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,240
We have this great cloud of 
witnesses looking under Jesus. 

854
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:51,200
Very inspiring verses, right, 
But it continues on, and they 

855
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,240
get not very inspiring, and just
a few short verses after that, 

856
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:59,120
but necessary verse #5 And you 
have forgotten the exhortation 

857
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,120
which speaketh unto you as unto 
children, my son, despise not 

858
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,080
thou the chastening of the Lord,
nor faint when thou art rebuked 

859
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,440
of him. 
That in for whom the Lord 

860
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,880
loveth, He chasteneth, and 
scourgeth every son whom he 

861
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,440
receiveth. 
That comes from Proverbs chapter

862
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,680
3. 
If you endure chastening, verse 

863
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,200
7, God dealeth with you as with 
sons. 

864
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,160
For what son is he whom the 
Father chasteneth not? 

865
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,560
But if ye be without 
chastisement, whereof all our 

866
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,720
partakers, then are you bastards
and not sons? 

867
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,160
Listen, what he's saying is if 
you can sin and there's no 

868
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,240
punishment that comes from that 
sin, then you're not a son 

869
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,680
because God punishes his 
children, right? 

870
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,160
You cannot just sin, sin, sin, 
sin, sin and have no consequence

871
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,560
for it and have no pricked 
conscience about your sin. 

872
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,040
If you can live your life that 
way and you don't feel anything,

873
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,800
there's a good possibility it's 
because you're not saved. 

874
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,560
You ought to feel something. 
You're, you're a son of God and 

875
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,040
he's going to treat you like a 
son. 

876
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,000
He's going to discipline you the
way a father disciplines a son, 

877
00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:00,880
right? 
Verse. 

878
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,960
Verse #9 Furthermore, we have 
had fathers of our flesh, which 

879
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,880
corrected us, and we gave them 
reverence. 

880
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,040
Shall we not much rather be in 
subjection unto the Father of 

881
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,880
spirits, and live? 
For they barely for a few days 

882
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,920
chastened us after their own 
pleasure, but He for our profit,

883
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,200
that we might be partakers of 
His Holiness. 

884
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,280
Now no chastening for the 
present seemeth to be joyous, 

885
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,520
but grievous nevertheless. 
Afterward it yielded the 

886
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,880
peaceable fruit of righteousness
unto them which are exercised 

887
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,880
thereby. 
Boy, you cannot get more 

888
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,520
beautiful language than what you
read in verse 9 through 9 

889
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,240
through 11. 
Such a beautiful, beautiful 

890
00:43:35,240 --> 00:43:37,840
language on the way that God 
deals with his children. 

891
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,520
He's saying, man, you have a 
father, you have an earthly 

892
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,600
father that, that that spanked 
you when you did wrong. 

893
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,800
And he was doing that to to make
himself feel better because you 

894
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,960
he knew that he wanted to live a
peaceable life and with you 

895
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,120
running around like a Wildman. 
He's not going to have it. 

896
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,560
So he he disciplines you and you
gave him reverence because he 

897
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,720
disciplined you. 
How much more should you give 

898
00:43:57,720 --> 00:43:59,280
reference to God when he does 
it? 

899
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,760
He's not doing look, he that's 
that's what he's saying verse 

900
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,520
#10 for verily, for they Verily 
for a few days chastened us 

901
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,560
after their own pleasure. 
But he for our prophet that we 

902
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,080
might be protectors of His 
Holiness. 

903
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,440
The reason we should be thankful
that God is willing to punish us

904
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,320
and chastise us as his children 
is because he's trying to make 

905
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,040
us more holy. 
He's trying to make us more like

906
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:24,480
him right. 
It doesn't seem to be fun, but 

907
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,240
the fruit of it is good. 
It's going to help you be what 

908
00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:30,880
he wants you to be. 
So what happens to some a Sinner

909
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,080
That's, that's that. 
I mean, a saved person that's in

910
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,040
sin, God has to chasten them. 
He has to chastise them. 

911
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,160
And it's not fun, but it's for 
our good. 

912
00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:43,200
Verse #5 the sinning believer 
reaps corruption. 

913
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,720
Galatians chapter 6. 
Let's turn over there. 

914
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,720
Coming to a close here. 
Galatians chapter 6. 

915
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:55,600
These are verses that most of 
you could quote pretty easily. 

916
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,280
Verse 7 and 8, Be not deceived. 
God is not mocked for whatsoever

917
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,040
a man soweth that shall, he also
reap, for he that soweth to his 

918
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,080
flesh shall of the flesh reap 
corruption, but he that soweth 

919
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,960
to the Spirit, shall of the 
Spirit reap life everlasting. 

920
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,600
There's a price to be paid for 
sin in this present world. 

921
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,680
Just because we're saved doesn't
mean that we escape the sowing 

922
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,000
and reaping. 
And I think that's a that's a 

923
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,560
really sad principle. 
It's a really hard principle. 

924
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,040
And, and he mentions a few 
things here that I think are are

925
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,120
easy for us to understand. 
Many believers have paid a 

926
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,760
terrible price, such as losing 
their marriage over such things 

927
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,160
as adultery, anger, worldliness,
losing their kids hearts, losing

928
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,120
their ministries. 
Anything can be forgiven by 

929
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,920
confession, but God has but, but
sin has consequences. 

930
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,720
For example, I know many divorce
believers who have confessed 

931
00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:44,400
their sin, but the divorce is 
still a reality with all of its 

932
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,280
ugly and hurtful lifelong 
ramifications. 

933
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,760
It's true, right? 
Yeah, you could be saved and you

934
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,800
can go have an affair and you're
not going to lose your salvation

935
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,360
and go to hell because you had 
an affair. 

936
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,280
There's a lot of things that 
come as a result of that. 

937
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,040
And you can choose your sin, but
you don't get to choose the 

938
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,360
consequences. 
God chooses the consequences. 

939
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,640
And sometimes, like he did with 
David, he'll have mercy, 

940
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,040
Sometimes he doesn't because he 
knows what we need to help us 

941
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,160
get to the point where we're not
going to do that again. 

942
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,440
Can't lose your salvation, but 
you're going to reap that 

943
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,640
corruption. 
You sinned. 

944
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,800
You're still, there's still a 
principle of sowing and reaping 

945
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,440
and we still all fit within that
principle. 

946
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,400
Number six, the sinning believer
loses irreplaceable 

947
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,360
opportunities for service and 
fruit. 

948
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,600
And I think this is one of the 
saddest parts of it for, for, 

949
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,520
you know, obviously, if you 
know, many times when somebody 

950
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,480
sins and they know they've 
sinned and they're repentant, 

951
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,840
like David was right. 
David said, I know that 

952
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,280
everything that that I'm getting
everything that's happening to 

953
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,800
me. 
I deserve this right and I think

954
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,000
a lot of people feel that way. 
But the sad thing is you lose 

955
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,120
out on so many opportunities to 
serve the Lord. 

956
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:57,720
Ephesians chapter 5 and verse 
#14 Wherefore he says, awake 

957
00:46:57,720 --> 00:47:00,520
thou that sleepest and arise 
from the dead, and Christ shall 

958
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,920
give thee light. 
See then that you walk 

959
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,480
circumspectly, not as fools, but
as wise, redeeming the time, 

960
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,960
because the days are evil. 
Wherefore be ye not unwise, but 

961
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,320
understanding what the will of 
the Lord is. 

962
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,880
See, we, we can be forgiven, but
we lose opportunities when they,

963
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,320
when the Israelites doubted God,
they were forced to walk in the 

964
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,280
wilderness for 40 years. 
They repented. 

965
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,960
As soon as they realized what 
was going to happen, they, they 

966
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,040
repented and they asked God, you
know, for forgiveness. 

967
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,800
Oh, we're so sorry. 
We should have never said that. 

968
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,360
We should have never done that. 
Please forgive us. 

969
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,520
And God said, that's fine, I 
forgive you, but you're still 

970
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,200
going to wander in the 
wilderness for 40 years, right? 

971
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,160
You're still going to have to go
through all of those things. 

972
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,600
And, and then the same thing, 
all of those who, who, who 

973
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,120
complained and God said, all 
right, everybody that's 20 years

974
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,560
old and up, you're going to die 
in the wilderness. 

975
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,560
Some of them, some of them 
repented, if you will. 

976
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,400
Some of them ask for 
forgiveness, but the 

977
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,640
consequences were still there. 
Many believers have lost 

978
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,400
irreplaceable opportunities by 
making important decisions when 

979
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,120
they were backslidden out of 
God's will. 

980
00:47:59,720 --> 00:48:02,400
And it happens a lot. 
Marry the wrong person, take the

981
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,240
wrong job, because you stop 
paying attention to what God 

982
00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:07,040
wanted. 
You start focusing on money and 

983
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,480
start focusing on all those 
other things and you get out of 

984
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,560
God's will because you're 
backslidden. 

985
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,640
You have to live with those 
consequences. 

986
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:20,280
You have to live with, with all 
of the the consequences of your 

987
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:24,200
choices right now. 
Obviously you marry the wrong 

988
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,280
person. 
You're not going to say up, 

989
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,120
definitely marry the wrong 
person, get divorced. 

990
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,960
Let's go and try this again. 
No, you live with it and you 

991
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,240
move on and you and you try to 
make the best of it for God's 

992
00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:35,640
glory in the middle of a 
situation that you made a mess 

993
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,800
out of, right. 
But you can still move on. 

994
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,520
But you can't go back and start 
over. 

995
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,880
So what the conclusion here is 
then we must live very 

996
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,400
cautiously and make sure that 
we're in God's will every step 

997
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,080
of the way. 
The last one here then is in 

998
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,360
First Corinthians chapter 3. 
And I think this is this one 

999
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,080
ought to be the most sobering 
for all of us. 

1000
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:59,520
And again, one of the 
motivations that keeps us from 

1001
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,360
sinning. 
Just because we can't lose our 

1002
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:06,720
salvation doesn't mean like as 
we already said, this doesn't 

1003
00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:10,600
mean that we can live our lives 
how we want to, right? 

1004
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,800
But the sinning believer will 
suffer loss at the judgement 

1005
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,760
seat of Christ. 
One of these days we're all 

1006
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,200
going to stand before God. 
And one of these days we're 

1007
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,720
going to get rewarded or we're 
going to not get rewarded, 

1008
00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:23,280
depending on how we lived our 
lives. 

1009
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:28,920
And verse #11 for other 
foundation can no man laid, and 

1010
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,800
that is laid which is Jesus 
Christ. 

1011
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,120
Now, if any man build upon this 
foundation, gold, silver, 

1012
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,520
precious stones, what hay 
stubble, all those are things 

1013
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,800
that we can build on top of, 
right? 

1014
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,720
So you get the foundation, 
right. 

1015
00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:43,560
Once the foundation, right, 
that's, that's Christ, right. 

1016
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,360
Your house is not going to 
collapse when the storms come. 

1017
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,040
You're not going to end up, you 
know, with a, with a, with a 

1018
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,560
flat house because you built on 
sand, you built the foundation, 

1019
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,720
right? 
Nobody can lay that foundation 

1020
00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:56,120
other than Jesus Christ. 
But then you build on that 

1021
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,400
foundation, and you can build 
out of gold, silver, precious 

1022
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,720
stones, wood, hay, stubble. 
Every man's work shall be made 

1023
00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:05,920
manifest, for the day shall 
declare it, because it shall be 

1024
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,240
revealed by fire, and the fire 
shall try every man's work of 

1025
00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:11,760
what sort it is. 
If any man's work abide which he

1026
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,040
has built there upon, he shall 
receive a reward. 

1027
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,560
If any man's work shall be 
burned, he shall suffer loss, 

1028
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:23,120
but he himself shall be saved 
yet so as by fire. 

1029
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,320
Again, not necessarily a verse 
that we usually think of for 

1030
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,560
eternal security, but eternal 
security is, is right there in 

1031
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,600
that verse. 
You're going to be saved, right?

1032
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,680
You're not going to, you're not 
going to lose your salvation. 

1033
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,840
That foundation is still there, 
but you could build an entire 

1034
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,920
life on top of a foundation 
that's solid, but that's going 

1035
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,200
to be burned up the second you 
touch the fire to it. 

1036
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,760
And everything that you put your
life around, everything that you

1037
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,840
built your life around could be 
gone in an instant. 

1038
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,200
You'll be saved. 
You're going to heaven. 

1039
00:50:56,240 --> 00:51:00,360
Your foundation is is is secure,
but everything that you built 

1040
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,480
your life around is gone in an 
instant unless you build out a 

1041
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:10,600
gold, silver, precious stones 
that would hay stubble be gone 

1042
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,000
in an instant. 
That's a sinning believer. 

1043
00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:15,200
You can live your life how you 
want to. 

1044
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,960
You can and you don't. 
You're not going to lose your 

1045
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,520
salvation, but you're going to 
pay the consequences of it. 

1046
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,960
And one of these days you're 
going to stand before God. 

1047
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,760
I, as he says here, want to hear
him say well done, thou good and

1048
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,400
faithful servant. 
To not hear that will be a very 

1049
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,880
tragic loss. 
That's the sinning believer. 

1050
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,680
You're a believer. 
You're saved. 

1051
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,400
You're on your way to heaven. 
You can't lose that salvation. 

1052
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,400
He's holding you in his hand, in
God's hand. 

1053
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,680
All of those are there for you, 
but it's all going to be burned 

1054
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,600
up. 
And not only that, but the life 

1055
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,840
that you live here is going to 
be a miserable life because 

1056
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,640
you're going to be getting 
chastised by God. 

1057
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,880
And if you don't get it right 
and come back, he's going to 

1058
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,760
keep chastising you. 
And things are probably going to

1059
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,680
keep getting worse and worse and
worse and worse for you. 

1060
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,440
But not only that, you don't 
have God's power, you don't have

1061
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,360
God's blessing, you don't have 
God's wisdom, you don't have the

1062
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:06,880
work of the Holy Spirit in your 
life. 

1063
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:12,560
Can you be a Christian and sin, 
live your life how you want to 

1064
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,200
and still go to heaven? 
You can, but it's a miserable 

1065
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:21,400
life and it's a miserable 
judgment because everything that

1066
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,160
you built your life around, it's
going to be burned up, it's 

1067
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,320
going to be gone. 
It's not going to come for 

1068
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:29,120
anything. 
So the thing that he mentions 

1069
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,120
here at the very end, I can't 
recommend this book enough 

1070
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,480
Things hard to be understood. 
It's a handbook of biblical 

1071
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,440
difficulties. 
And basically what it is, is 

1072
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,800
everything that everything that 
we find in God's word that seems

1073
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,440
to be a contradiction is just 
that it seems to be a 

1074
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,800
contradiction. 
God's word does not contradict 

1075
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,360
itself. 
So this book things hard to be 

1076
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,960
understood is a really good book
for helping you to understand 

1077
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,320
the difficult passages what is 
being said here. 

1078
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,600
But there's a whole section at 
the end of that book that is all

1079
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,680
topics, if you will, eternal 
security. 

1080
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:13,120
And he says for passages, look 
at the at the article in eternal

1081
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,600
security for passages that are 
used by those who deny the 

1082
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,760
doctrine of eternal security. 
So these are all verses in all 

1083
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:24,560
passages that would that would 
refute the passages that they 

1084
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,120
used to say that eternal 
security is not a valid 

1085
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,560
doctrine, if you will. 
We don't have time to go through

1086
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,720
all of those. 
We, we pretty much have, I mean,

1087
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:35,840
in, in one way or another, one 
form or another over these last 

1088
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,960
couple weeks that we've done 
this lesson, but things hard to 

1089
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,640
be understood. 
It's a tremendous, tremendous 

1090
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,040
book. 
You can get it in a hard copy. 

1091
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:43,360
You can get it in a digital 
copy. 

1092
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,400
I believe we have hard copies of
it back there in the bookstore. 

1093
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,400
I know we did. 
I don't know if we, you know, 

1094
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,960
we, we try to keep up with them 
and we've made several orders 

1095
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,880
and everything else. 
Sometimes it just disappears, 

1096
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,840
but you can get a digital copy 
of that too. 

1097
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,520
And it's easy to have that as 
part of like a Bible study in 

1098
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,200
the mornings or something like 
that, if you're, if you're 

1099
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,880
looking at it. 
But again, we have to be very, 

1100
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,640
very, very careful about who you
read and who you listen to and 

1101
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,760
who you watch, all of those kind
of things, because the doctrine 

1102
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,200
should come from God's Word. 
You looked at, look at all these

1103
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,080
verses that we looked at 
tonight, right? 

1104
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,520
You can get in God's Word and 
find those verses for yourself. 

1105
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,280
You can do it. 
Why don't we? 

1106
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,880
Many times it's because we're 
too lazy to actually get in 

1107
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,200
there and look at it ourselves, 
right? 

1108
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,360
So it's a whole lot easier to 
just go find somebody that wrote

1109
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,480
an article about it on the 
Internet, read what they have to

1110
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,760
say, take their opinion, and 
that forms the basis of our 

1111
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,920
belief about this. 
Now I don't have to study that 

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out anymore because this guy 
said this and it sounded good. 

1113
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So this is what I believe, 
right? 

1114
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,240
That's not Bible study, that's 
reading somebody's opinion, 

1115
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,160
right? 
Bible study is get in there, 

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00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,160
figure out what it says. 
What do these verses mean? 

1117
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,520
OK, let's find the verses. 
Let's find the verses that 

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people who are opposed to 
eternal security use as evidence

1119
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,120
for why they think eternal 
security is not a Bible 

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00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,440
doctrine. 
And let's go find verses that 

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00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,720
show us how we know that it is 
and how we know that they're 

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00:55:11,720 --> 00:55:12,560
wrong. 
Right? 

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00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,880
You can find it. 
You just got to study it out. 

1124
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,920
And again, that's why we have 
hundreds of Bible study tools. 

1125
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,440
You can use tools to help you 
find those things, but you need 

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00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,320
to study it out for yourself. 
And don't just count on somebody

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00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,320
else's opinion or somebody 
else's study. 

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00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,440
Get into the Bible yourself, 
read those verses yourself, see 

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00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,280
what it has to say, come to your
own conclusion based on what 

1130
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God's Word says, right? 
It's a very important that we do

1131
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,680
that. 
All right, we're going to get 

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into position and practice next 
week. 

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Let me mention this as we close.
We have, I think, 6 people that 

1134
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,160
have accepted Christ as their 
Savior since the last time we 

1135
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,360
did a baptism service. 
And I'd like to do a baptism 

1136
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,360
service on Sunday for those who 
need to be baptized. 

1137
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,560
I know that's kind of short 
notice, but I mean really, I 

1138
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,600
don't know what I don't know how
you prepare for baptism, you 

1139
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,000
know, other than maybe telling 
other people about it that might

1140
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,120
want to be there and be a part 
of it. 

1141
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:10,160
But having said that, I will 
plan to do it on on Sunday. 

1142
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,200
So come let me know if, if you 
need to be baptized, if you're 

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00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:18,880
one of those 6 that we, most of 
us, in fact all of us have 

1144
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,400
talked about about baptism. 
I've talked to all of you about 

1145
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,600
baptism. 
It's just kind of the date we 

1146
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,960
get into the next Sunday is 
Christmas, the Sunday after 

1147
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,800
that, a lot of people are out of
town and things like that. 

1148
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,040
That puts us into the beginning 
of the new year, which is our, 

1149
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,440
our Sunday where we're kicking 
off the new theme. 

1150
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,640
And it just, it's going to be 
another month before we can do 

1151
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:37,760
it. 
I'd rather do it sooner than 

1152
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,200
later. 
So I'm planning to do it this 

1153
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,440
Sunday for all of those who 
would like to be baptized that 

1154
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,080
have been saved recently. 
So come see me, let me know, 

1155
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,320
send me a text, something like 
that and let me know. 

1156
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:53,000
I'll probably shoot each of you 
a text and just and, and see 

1157
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,160
where you're at with it. 
But if you can do it, we'd like 

1158
00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:00,240
to do it this Sunday. 
All right, let's pray we'll be 

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00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:04,240
done and we will sing our song 
and be dismissed. 

1160
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:06,080
Father, again, we thank you so 
much for your goodness to us. 

1161
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,160
Thank you for these lessons that
we have. 

1162
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,280
I thank you for the work that 
Brother Cloud has put into, but 

1163
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,720
digging these things out of the 
Word of God and helping us to 

1164
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,680
have a framework to go off of 
and some verses that we can look

1165
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,880
at that that that just really 
help us with understanding the 

1166
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:23,680
doctrine of the Bible and making
sure that we are getting it from

1167
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,960
your word and not just from 
somebody's opinion or from 

1168
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:28,880
anywhere else. 
God may. 

1169
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,800
May our final authority be God's
word, and may you help us to be 

1170
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,280
truly students of your word and 
be effective at it. 

1171
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,800
And may you help us to be 
witnesses for you because of 

1172
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,080
what you've done for us. 
Thank you again for all you do 

1173
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,360
for us in Jesus name, Amen. 
All right.