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Welcome to the Planner Pals 
Podcast, a podcast hosted by two

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true Planner pals. 
My name is Mark or Mark your 

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pages. 
And I am Jess or Jessie Curran. 

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And today we are talking about 
Go wild. 

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Oh my gosh. 
At the time of recording this, 

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it's only like 2 weeks away, 
which still is blowing my mind. 

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When this comes out, it's only a
week away, which means I'm still

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probably not ready for it. 
What about you Mark? 

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Are you excited? 
I'm in the same exact mode. 

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I it still isn't real to me just
yet. 

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And I'm hosting the crop this 
year and doing a workshop 

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introducing people. 
And I'm just like, yeah, you 

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know, I'll get on a plane and go
and I'm like, I need to be a 

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little bit more prepared for 
this than I think that I am 

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right now. 
But before we get into that big,

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exciting conversation, a huge 
thank you to everybody who left 

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to comment on last Time's 
podcast. 

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It was great to hear about your 
experiences with fountain pens, 

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and Mark has pretty much 98% of 
the way convinced me, like, have

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I got a fountain pen? 
Not quite, but I am very much 

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considering it. 
Well, I'm excited for us to talk

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a lot more about what you're 
considering. 

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Just on the side, I actually, 
I'm going to spoil it today, but

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I actually want to send you a 
fountain pen because I feel 

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like, well, two things. 
First, we have to celebrate that

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the YouTube channel has become 
monetized. 

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And for two people who are on 
YouTube, that's a really amazing

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thing because I think it took me
almost like two years on my own 

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channel and this one only four 
episodes. 

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So as a congratulations to us, 
I'm going to send you one. 

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I'm going to pick it, though you
don't get to pick it, I get to 

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pick it for you. 
And it's going to be one of 

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these pens though. 
We actually had a number of 

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people who answered our question
from last episode, which is what

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pen would you recommend? 
And I was so happy to hear that 

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the pens that I picked for the 
most part were very much on 

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point was the pilot Kukuno, 
which has the cute little faces 

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on it. 
That was one that was really out

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there. 
Twisby's. 

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Like I said, everyone loves a 
Twisby. 

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A number of people who are like 
Mark, you called them little 

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snacks, and you're so incredibly
right. 

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Like, they're so easy to have. 
The Lemmy Safari is one that a 

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lot of people said in the Quakos
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Even though like personally, and
people might not like me for 

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this, but I'm not a super fan of
the Quakos. 

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Just like little pocket pens and
there's other ones out there 

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that we could use. 
But so yeah, I'm going to pick 

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you out a special one and send 
it your way and I'll be excited 

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to hear about your experience 
with that. 

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So I can't wait. 
Now I feel like I need to get 

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you a gift, too. 
It's like when you show up and 

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somebody got you a gift and you 
didn't, or vice versa. 

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Like when you show up and you 
got somebody a gift and they got

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you one that's just like, 
distinctly better, You're like, 

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cool, cool, I'll go get you 
another gift. 

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Someone else actually mentioned,
like, you have to get just inks.

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I think the inks would get her 
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the pen itself. 
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that when you get to pick 
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inks are like a very special 
thing, you know, that you get to

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kind of do the other thing that 
we had a number of people 

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comment on, which I'm glad that 
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So in last episode I talked 
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the years, especially as I've 
gotten in fountain pens that 

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say, like, oh, I wrote with 
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And I was like, Jess, did you? 
Because you live on the other 

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side of the world from me. 
Like, distinctly. 

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Not pencil first. 
Like training wheels. 

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All right. 
Not going to go and smear ankle 

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over the page. 
I don't think my grade school 

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teachers would have appreciated 
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No, but grade school teachers in
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Switzerland, Germany, a lot of 
people from Germany said they 

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made us right with really crappy
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And also, Croatia is another one
that we saw too. 

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So just wanted to shout out 
everyone who had to do that as a

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kid. 
A number of people were like, Oh

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my gosh, you triggered something
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hated. 
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fountain pens again. 
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altogether. 
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And it was just really cool to 
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everybody's based as well, 
because, you know, I find that a

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lot of both of our audiences are
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So hearing that we have people 
from all over the world is also 

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a very exciting thing. 
It's super exciting. 

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So again, thank you everyone who
left comments who answered the 

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questions on the Q&A on the 
podcast itself often reach out 

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to his toe. 
Today is going to be different. 

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You know one thing that I saw a 
few comments on, they were like 

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loving the podcast, but are you 
only going to talk about bullet 

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journaling? 
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friends, we've got more to talk 
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And today's episode is perfect 
for all the planners out there 

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because we're talking about Go 
Wild Now. 

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I was telling Jess right before 
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don't have a lot to, like, 
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than my fear and anxiety around 
what this is because I only 

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party crashed one Go Wild when 
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So you have all the experience, 
such as I'm going to let you go 

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ahead and take this ship and 
start to cast it off to talk 

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about Go Wild because I honestly
don't really have any idea what 

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I'm getting myself into in just 
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It's almost like the blind 
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only been to 1 go wild. 
I've been wanting to go for like

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many moons before that, but 
because I do live at the ass end

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of the world and it was always 
during like you know, term one 

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in the middle of teaching, it 
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But since having left teaching 
and then having the Go Wild 

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conference at a time that I 
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along, which is very exciting. 
So if you haven't heard about Go

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Wild or if now you're just 
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planning conference. 
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So they host one every year. 
You know, World events 

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permitting. 
This one's hosted by Wild for 

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Planners each year. 
So it's just really about 

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planner enthusiasts getting 
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fun. 
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questions about Go Wild before I
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Not just yet. 
I do want to share a really 

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weird story about a dream that I
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feel like go wild, this year is 
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So a number of years ago I had a
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like, Instagram planner friends 
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And I was like, that is weird to
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conference. 
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any of these Planner 
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I never knew they existed and 
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Like even when I party crashed 
the DC-1, it was so cool meeting

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so many of the people that like,
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that's those are people that 
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There's a number of people that 
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YouTube or that we chat with or 
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communities and things like 
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So as of right now, I just AM, 
I'm here to soak up what to 

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expect and we'll talk in a 
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planning for Go Wild. 
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little bit different than yours,
but I'll have a lot more to 

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contribute there. 
But I'll ask questions along the

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way because I really, honestly, 
like I said, I don't know what 

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I'm getting myself into other 
than like what I've seen online.

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And it looks wild. 
And that's really corny to say, 

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but it looks like a wild time in
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No, And exactly what you said. 
Like, it's really about getting 

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to meet up with other people who
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stuff that you were enthusiastic
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Because I know that a lot of our
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don't have, like in real life, 
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They don't necessarily have 
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their enthusiasm for stationary 
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like getting organized and stuff
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So really it's an opportunity to
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it and you know, meeting online 
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Like you said, that one was a 
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We'll talk more about last year 
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But in terms of the general kind
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Wild, so Go Wild really starts 
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called Shop Summit. 
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of the like kind of Go Wild 
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I suppose it is a separate 
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primarily for people who are 
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That's the name. 
So anybody who's got like a, you

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know, slightly larger business, 
small business, thinking about 

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getting into business, I assume 
it is related to planning, 

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stationery, that type thing. 
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one is really good for 
networking and getting to have 

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motivational, inspirational 
speakers and kind of get you 

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hyped for whatever it is you're 
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like, you know, doing these 
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If you're doing an online 
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feel very isolating, like you 
don't necessarily have like 

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colleagues or peers who are 
really working alongside you and

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working on the same kind of 
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person and make those 
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valuable. 
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Is it just kind of very much 
sharing experiences and I'm, I'm

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guessing like resources and 
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Yeah, this is going to be again 
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I haven't gone myself, but I do 
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restriction on who can buy a 
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Like if you want to buy a 
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just to Snoop it out if you want
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You're like Mark. 
I just put these bullets. 

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From what I read online, I've 
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Give me a break. 
Yeah, I'm. 

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Just like why you got to out me 
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I'm not. 
I'm not the expert guys, not the

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expert. 
If you do want like you know, 

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more insider expert information 
then the best place to go would 

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be the Wild for Planners 
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We do have it LinkedIn, the 
description slash show notes. 

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But in terms of our next day of 
the conference where like you 

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know, the regular Go Wild ticket
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first thing we have on the 
Thursday is what's called the 

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plan affair. 
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registration point. 
So you come in, you sign in to 

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say like, yes, hello, I showed 
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And then they also have little 
stalls and little photo 

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opportunities and meet and 
greets and stuff like that for 

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people in the planning space. 
So last year we had people like 

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Erin, Condren, Zebra, we had 
Kelly, Danielle, I believe a 

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whole bunch of little bits and 
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You can walk around, get little 
bits of swag and stuff and just 

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have a good time. 
That one goes for the majority 

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of the day. 
It is very casual, very kind of 

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walk in, walk out type deal. 
You're talking about the swag 

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and stuff like that. 
That is one thing I've 

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definitely heard a lot of, where
people are telling me to 

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literally bring an extra 
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So all of the swag and all the 
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collectibles, that's starting 
day one. 

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Like you register and then 
people are just throwing stuff 

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at you. 
I mean, technically speaking, it

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starts even before that. 
If you're based in the US, you 

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get a welcome box sent to you. 
If you're international like me,

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you have to wait until you 
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shipping is expensive, so they 
don't necessarily want to send 

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those out, which is fair. 
It's all good. 

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So that's something I have to 
look forward to when I actually 

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arrive. 
But yeah, the swag is a big part

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of it. 
I know that there are people out

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there who say like, Oh yeah, you
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you're gonna have to mail at 
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I was not so keen on doing that,
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travel and multiple flights. 
I'm like, yeah, I don't really 

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want to have to pay for an 
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up giving most of mine away. 
What kind of stuff do were you 

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getting like I guess on that 
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like that welcome box? 
I don't. 

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I just got an e-mail today that 
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way, but I don't know that I've 
seen anything for a box. 

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But I'm also in a very different
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guest, so I don't know if they 
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what kind of stuff is in the box
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our welcome badge. 
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that you kind of wear to say 
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here. 
That one has like you know, 

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whatever name or details you put
down when you signed up, so you 

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can have like your social media 
handle on there and whatever 

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else. 
We also got some stationary 

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items. 
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Mildliner kind of thing, zebra 
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We also had a postcard that was 
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So Washington DC, it's kind of 
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type things and then when you 
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like other little bits and 
pieces that you can collect 

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really depends on who's giving 
out what. 

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So Zebra, for instance had a box
of assorted different Zebra 

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pens, kind of like is like like 
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pens, but like a taster kit of 
like different brand and pens 

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and stuff from Zebra, which was 
cool. 

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What should I really be looking 
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than the crop, which I'm very 
excited about and honestly the 

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only thing I really know 
anything about at this point 

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from what people have told me? 
I think that the welcome party 

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is always a great time. 
That's when we have karaoke as 

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well, so make sure that you sign
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I will sit in the back. 
Are there drinks? 

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Because I'll I'll sit and drink 
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up there. 
There is a bar. 

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You can buy yourself a bevy. 
So all good. 

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Last year, I think. 
What Elijah, somebody I met at 

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the conference, they were like, 
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Defying gravity. 
And I was like, oh, yeah, I know

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defying gravity. 
I didn't realize that I knew the

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Glee version, not the actual 
version. 

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The Glee versions are always 
better. 

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I know, right. 
So we got up there and they're 

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like, oh, yeah, excellent. 
You can, you can sing the. 

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I don't even know her name, the 
good witch one. 

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And I was like, yeah, sure. 
I didn't even know that there 

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were parts to this. 
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screen and everybody's, like, 
going along with it because they

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all obviously know it. 
And I'm like, maybe she's right.

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I don't know any of the words 
like, oh, dear. 

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So that was good. 
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for I just can't wait to be 
king. 

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And she's like, will you be my 
Zazu? 

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Like, OK, this one I've got. 
I can do Zazu. 

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Yeah, that one's easy. 
I'm always here to help lead in 

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Sidekick when you need me to. 
Exactly. 

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If you want to pick a Disney 
song, I'm all about it, 

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obviously. 
Unless it's going to be a Glee 

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cast version of Defying Gravity,
maybe leave me out. 

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But Welcome Party is great time 
this year. 

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It is sponsored by Archer and 
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exciting. 
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I'm pretty sure it's just like 
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but it's so cool to have their 
name on something so I'm excited

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for it. 
Do the welcome parties do like 

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giveaways and stuff like that or
is it really like you said, like

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we're sponsoring this but like 
Go Wild is really running this 

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and what you kind of expect from
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I think last year we had themed 
cookies kind of a thing from 

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whoever was sponsoring it, I 
cannot remember. 

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I think it was Christian 
Designs. 

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I'm sure somebody will yell at 
me about that because it's maybe

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wrong, but outside of just the 
fact that we're all kind of like

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hanging together, really kind of
kicking off the event with a 

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word, it's like pretty much just
that. 

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But it is a very good time. 
So that's one of the things that

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I'm probably the most excited 
for, you know, it's the really 

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kind of big shebang kick off. 
Then also the wild crop, like we

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said, it's going to be highlight
and it's all your fault, but I'm

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very excited about it. 
This year is going to be really 

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cool since I'm working along 
with them. 

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I have all kinds of insider 
information, some that I can't 

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share, that will actually be 
announcing at the crop, which 

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I'm very excited about with 
that. 

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But just hearing. 
And again, I was there last year

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when I just kind of crashed for 
a little bit and I got to meet a

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lot of them because I was 
already doing some social media 

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work with them and just starting
really. 

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So I was like, well, they're 
right here, let me go meet them.

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And they've been so cool. 
And even this year it's been 

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really neat. 
And yeah, I'm really excited for

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this stuff that's going to 
happen at the crop because it's 

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like, here's new stuff that you 
know, hasn't been seen before or

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you know that's going to be 
available. 

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I don't want to say too much. 
I'll be giving stuff away, but 

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like you want to go to the crop.
Not just because I'm a part of 

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that, but if you like 
stationery, you'll want to go to

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the crop. 
I mean, the wild crop is 

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probably the thing that I'm most
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Am I incredibly biased? 
Yes. 

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But that, like, when your name 
was announced, I was like, I'm 

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literally going to die. 
Oh my God, I am so excited. 

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It's something that I'm not 
really even sure what to expect 

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from it, because they said like 
this year is going to even be 

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different from last year and 
kind of how they approached it. 

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So from what I understood from 
last year, everything seemed 

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like it was kind of themed 
around like the postcards and 

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stuff like that, right? 
They had these different 

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creators do that. 
And this year they're like, what

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do you want to do? 
And I was like, well, I don't 

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know. 
What do you want me to do? 

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Like, you get the pick. 
You know, we're going to have 

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you do this. 
And then as it, you know, got 

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bigger and bigger, it was like, 
and you're also hosting. 

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And here's what we did last 
year. 

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And here, you know, I was like, 
oh, my gosh, this is so much 

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more than what I'm used to, 
which is just a lot of like 

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online workshops that we've 
done, you know, and for 

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different people in the past. 
I'm like, that's what I in my 

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brain when I was expecting when 
I was creating my workshop. 

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And then I just had a call with 
them last week where we were 

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kind of going over things. 
I'm like, no, this is a lot 

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bigger than just a workshop on 
like going through what I'm 

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doing, like this is the huge. 
So I'm, I'm really excited for 

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it. 
And I'm also just really excited

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to, like I said, to see like 
what Zebra's doing because they 

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said they're doing a lot of new 
stuff this year that they hadn't

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before. 
Yeah, like I said, the Wild crop

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is probably the part that I'm 
like the most excited about. 

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Again biased. 
But that one is when the kind of

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no real go wild conference 
really kicks off on the Friday. 

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So on Friday we have our, you 
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something like that. 
Speakers start around or 

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something in general. 
Way too early for me, but it's 

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fine, I will cope. 
I would say how long does it 

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take you to get like your brain 
and your body synchronized to 

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being 15 hours back in time? 
It didn't actually feel so bad 

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last time. 
Like last time. 

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My OK, there was a whole 
kerfuffle with flights, but 

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that's another thing. 
So I was supposed to get in at 

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11. 
I did not. 

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I got in at 2:00 AM and then I 
slept till like 11:00 AM the 

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next day. 
Thankfully I'd organize late 

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check out because otherwise 
there would have been somebody 

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on my door like ma'am, ma'am, 
please leave. 

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But thankfully I I managed to 
sleep a lot on my kind of 

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flights over and stuff so by the
time that I got in it felt like 

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the right time to be going to 
bed. 

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So it wasn't too bad. 
I'm hoping for something similar

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this time because yeah, getting 
over jet lag when you're 

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arriving the effectively the 
night before registration starts

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and opens. 
Not so fun. 

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I was going to say it's like a 
whole other thing, do a Taylor 

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Swift city. 
And she said, like, jet lag is a

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state of mind. 
Just don't be jet lagged. 

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Can't you just do that? 
This feels like the advice 

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people give. 
Like what? 

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You're You're depressed, Why 
don't you be happy? 

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Like, thanks Taylor. 
Great advice. 

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It's nice that you have a 
private jet that you can sleep 

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on without crying babies. 
Must be wonderful, yeah. 

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Oh, you're like wedged in 
between two people. 

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Like, hi, can you be my my 
bedding pills? 

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Yeah, don't want that. 
Not not good. 

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But yeah, hopefully this time 
around I will have a similar 

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experience with not having a lot
of jet lag. 

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I I found more so that the 
conference itself was just very 

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like, I'm going to say energy 
draining, but not in a bad way. 

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Like you're around a lot of 
people. 

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I very much feel for people who 
are a bit more introverted than 

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I am and having that many people
around that buzz of energy and 

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just like, you know, 
experiencing all this newness, 

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especially for me, who's like 
not from the US. 

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So that was kind of a big thing 
last year, but it did take a lot

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out of you. 
You go to bed very much ready 

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for bed. 
Yeah, I was going to say, I can 

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only think about this, the 
amount of energy that we have in

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this community already about the
things that we love and then to 

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be surrounded by people that 
have the same if not more energy

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about some of these things. 
I can only imagine the like 

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electricity that you feel in 
there. 

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I think that's why, like all the
videos that I see about go wild,

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just people are just, I can't 
say I don't need a different 

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word than wild, right? 
But like it's it makes so much 

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sense. 
It just it just seems like just 

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a wild time. 
People are just yelling and 

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dancing and screaming and like 
all this stuff all the time. 

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I I need a better word for it. 
But honestly, it just, it looks 

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so much fun. 
And I'm so excited to like 

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really be in it this time 
around. 

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Because I definitely had FOMO 
when everybody else was like 

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coming in from workshops with 
like all of their stuff. 

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And they were talking about all 
the different talks that were 

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going on in people. 
And I was like, this is cool. 

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Like, I get to meet all these 
people I haven't met before, but

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I'm missing out on this whole 
part of this conversation that 

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I've no idea what what was even 
happening. 

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I would love to hear about some 
of your experiences with like, 

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meeting people, because that for
me was one of the big things. 

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It's honestly the only reason 
that I went and I don't mean any

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shades, was to go wild people. 
Because I'll be honest, like I 

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said, I didn't really even know 
that thing existed. 

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Then when I knew that you were 
going to be there and the crew 

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from Archer and Olive and a 
number of people from online 

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that they were like, you're here
and I was like, I've literally 

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just stopping it for a little 
bit. 

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I don't want to like I felt 
weird being there because I 

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didn't have a paid ticket. 
So I was really just like here 

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to see my zebra crew and here to
see my Archer and olive crew and

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some of my other friends. 
Did you have any kind of 

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highlights other than myself 
personally? 

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And obviously that you were 
excited to meet, but anybody 

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else that you got to meet while 
you were here to go wild, that 

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you were like this was very 
cool. 

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Yeah, I guess what? 
So when I organized my trip 

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because I saw that Erica was 
going from craft and I did, and 

447
00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,800
I was like, oh gosh, I've always
wanted to go to go wild. 

448
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,800
Like, can I swing it? 
Can I convince Vogel? 

449
00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,320
Didn't take a lot of effort, but
that's fine. 

450
00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,600
So I ended up staying with her 
and her mum in a double room. 

451
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,000
So it's like 2 double beds. 
So the four of us stayed in 

452
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,880
there. 
So that was really cool to get 

453
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,760
to, you know, hang out with her 
more than just like passing 

454
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,080
moments at the conference. 
Then of course, meeting the 

455
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,720
Archer and Olive crew. 
Very exciting. 

456
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,520
Getting to meet you. 
Very exciting. 

457
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,040
Like I literally remember 
filming a little piece for my 

458
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,520
vlog being like, Oh my God, Mark
From then, Men who Bullet is 

459
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,480
coming and it's going to be the 
highlight of my weekend. 

460
00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,720
I got to meet him in person and 
I remember when like I was. 

461
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,840
Messaging you or something when 
you were there trying to find 

462
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,840
you and like ran past and then 
one person turns around and goes

463
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,040
oh that's like Mark from my 
menu. 

464
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,160
Bullet and Jessie. 
Karen I'm like yes I was but I'm

465
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,800
busy right now love and 
appreciate but I was just like 

466
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:20,160
Mark is here so that was very 
exciting then Also getting to 

467
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,360
meet people who are like in my 
general community as well was 

468
00:20:23,360 --> 00:20:26,240
really cool. 
Like for instance Carolyn who is

469
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,680
one of my like long term patrons
which is really cool. 

470
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,720
Got to meet her and she bought 
me Coke 0 because she knows that

471
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,800
I'm like literally a fiend like 
first thing in the morning. 

472
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,320
Hello it is I. 
But it was really cool to get to

473
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,400
meet her in person and very much
appreciated her bringing me 

474
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,880
beverages. 
And then after the conference I 

475
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,920
also got to organize a Jashi 
Curran kind of meet up for the 

476
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,080
general community who are in the
region as well, who like weren't

477
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,680
necessarily going to go wild. 
So we got to meet up at the 

478
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,640
library and just hang out for 
like 3 or so hours and talk 

479
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,440
planners and whatever else. 
And it's just so cool to like, 

480
00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,000
meet people and just be like, 
this is kind of weird at the 

481
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,840
same time to do that. 
Like America was the same way 

482
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,520
last year too, and her mom was 
there, right? 

483
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,880
And so it's like you, you just 
meet like these like little 

484
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,520
groups of families. 
So I'm. 

485
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,880
I'm really excited for that as a
whole as well. 

486
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,320
So I can't, I can't wait. 
And the talks all seem pretty 

487
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,960
fun, too. 
Again, I'm really going into 

488
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,840
them blindly. 
But I do have to ask you 

489
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,560
something because this is 
something that I know people 

490
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,080
mentioned as being like a big 
deal is this table situation 

491
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,160
because I know that brands 
sponsor the tables. 

492
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,000
And let me ask you this because 
I need to prepare myself. 

493
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,840
Do you like pre register for a 
table or do you just they open 

494
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,000
the doors and you run and you 
knock people over to get to a 

495
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,520
table that you want? 
I think in previous years there 

496
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,640
were some instances of running 
and knocking over. 

497
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,840
When I went, they weren't doing 
that, which I'm very grateful 

498
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,720
for. 
What we do is we line up outside

499
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,040
the door. 
I know that they have an 

500
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,920
official kind of start time when
the line starts. 

501
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,120
Some people choose to go a 
little bit earlier regardless. 

502
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,360
They do say like no official 
line will be acknowledged before

503
00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:02,120
this time. 
But I'm like if the lines 

504
00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:04,600
already started where the door 
is like you're gonna 

505
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,480
acknowledge. 
What are you gonna do? 

506
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,160
Yeah, it's there. 
You can't move me. 

507
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,240
They just, they just move like 
the the barricade like over a 

508
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,080
meter and then everybody just 
steps. 

509
00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:17,240
Like, OK, now it's official. 
You're like, cool. 

510
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,080
I'm gonna get out of my sleeping
bag next to this trash can to 

511
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,640
get that table with the good 
sticker. 

512
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,800
Well, yeah, no, I I know in 
previous years they had people 

513
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,560
who were camping out there from 
like 4:00 AM or something. 

514
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,960
I'm like, oh, girl, no, I guess 
it's her sleep. 

515
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,600
It's a note from me. 
When you love stationery, you're

516
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,840
ride or die. 
You can't. 

517
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,360
I you can't like it a little 
bit. 

518
00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:40,080
Like you're either camping out 
for the right table or you know 

519
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,280
you're sleeping in because 
you're not worried about it. 

520
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,960
I feel like the excitement of 
the conference, though not that 

521
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,000
I'm waking up at 4:00 for a 
table like. 

522
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,600
I also have no problem with 
buying something from a small 

523
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,760
business that may be a sponsored
or a big business that's 

524
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,360
sponsored a table. 
But I understand the excitement 

525
00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:59,800
around like sitting down on the 
table and like getting this 

526
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,720
stuff and like very much being 
around like that theme. 

527
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,520
And do the brands do anything 
more than sponsor the table? 

528
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,640
Like, are they coming around at 
all during the conference or 

529
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,320
they do anything with their 
tables beyond just like have a 

530
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,200
seat, get some cool stuff. 
Now I'm not too sure about the 

531
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,600
smaller business owners because 
I feel like smaller business 

532
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,960
owners who sponsor a table, they
probably do go and like, you 

533
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,600
know, I'm going to say check up 
on their table. 

534
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,080
It's not quite what I mean, but 
check in and say like like, hey,

535
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,080
thanks for sitting here, hope 
you like the stuff, that kind of

536
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,040
a thing. 
So that probably happens for 

537
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,760
larger businesses, I'm not too 
sure. 

538
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,280
Maybe they have a 
representative, I didn't have 

539
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,440
that last year. 
But you also find that for 

540
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,560
larger businesses, they also 
tend to sponsor more than one 

541
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,480
table as well. 
So they'll be like, you know, 

542
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,960
several that are sponsored by 
Altenau, several that are 

543
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,680
sponsored by Zebra, that kind of
thing. 

544
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,640
So I don't think they're 
necessarily like Bunny hopping 

545
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,640
around trying to like, you know,
get all of the tables and all of

546
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,400
that kind of stuff. 
But there is a lot of, I'm going

547
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,000
to say, like friendly 
competition. 

548
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,200
It's not necessary. 
Literally, a competition was 

549
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,120
like you lined up you first in 
your first serve. 

550
00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:58,000
It's how it works to get certain
tables. 

551
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,440
I know that Zebra usually gets a
lot of Hive because they do tend

552
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,600
to give out a decent chunk of 
stuff on their tables. 

553
00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:07,800
I know that, Erin Condren is 
another one that people seem to 

554
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,600
get pretty excited about. 
I find that a lot of the brands 

555
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,080
that sponsor the tables aren't 
necessarily the brands that I 

556
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,560
always use. 
But last year and this year, I 

557
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,880
believe Archer and Olive are 
sponsoring some tables. 

558
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,480
So that's exciting. 
Do I need more Archer and Olive 

559
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,560
stuff? 
No, but. 

560
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,720
No, after this last sub box too,
I was just like I have and it's 

561
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,080
so weird for me to say this. 
I have enough notebooks. 

562
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,080
What? 
No sacrilege? 

563
00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:37,120
No. 
No, this is taking me a long 

564
00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:41,000
time to get here chess. 
I have enough notebooks like 

565
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,320
forever. 
Forever. 

566
00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:46,240
Forever. 
I think I only have enough for 

567
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,040
the next 20 years, so we'll see 
what happens. 

568
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,240
No, you're probably right, 
actually. 

569
00:24:50,360 --> 00:24:52,600
There's always gonna be one or 
two that I'm gonna need more of.

570
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,120
So like we said, Friday is 
really the official kind of kick

571
00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:57,480
off of the conference. 
So that's really where we get 

572
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,480
our speakers and all of those 
kind of sessions. 

573
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,280
That one goes up until about 
2:00 PM and then we get the 

574
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,040
afternoon off to kind of just 
explore whichever city we've 

575
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,040
been placed in. 
Which for me, last year being in

576
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,240
DC was very exciting because 
Vogel was off gallivanting 

577
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,320
seeing all the things and I'm 
like I've seen the inside of 

578
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,160
this hotel, so it was nice to 
have a dedicated time and then 

579
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,240
in the evening of that Friday 
that is when we have wild crop 

580
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,520
so excited. 
I know I'm going to keep saying 

581
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,320
that throughout this entire 
episode, but like, it's true, 

582
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,840
so. 
I'm excited too. 

583
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,040
I get to be on a big ass stage 
and talk in front of a bunch of 

584
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,560
other planner enthusiasts. 
It's going to be so much fun. 

585
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,600
I know, right? 
I'm so excited for you and I'm 

586
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,120
so excited for us getting to see
you be excited. 

587
00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:40,840
It's just going to be great. 
Well, have they released all the

588
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,640
people that are going to be at 
the crop? 

589
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,280
I don't know if they have. 
I've known about it, But have 

590
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,800
they released that publicly on 
like all the people that will be

591
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,040
there? 
I don't want to, like, ruin a 

592
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,520
surprise if somebody didn't 
announce it. 

593
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,000
Let me just check my planner 
because of course I have a go 

594
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,320
wall platter. 
So according to mine 

595
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,320
calculations and by that I mean 
the print off that I printed 

596
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,160
off. 
So there's you love that. 

597
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,840
We have Bess Whiteman from 
Lights Planner Action. 

598
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,600
So she was a speaker last year, 
but she was doing like a speaker

599
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,960
segment on the second day rather
than the wild crop. 

600
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,680
And then we have Amanda Rach 
Lee. 

601
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,680
So I'm not sure if there are 
others outside of that. 

602
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,200
The Amanda Rach Lee one was the 
thing that I would didn't want 

603
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,280
to like, get out there in case 
that was a big surprise for 

604
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,080
anyone, because that's really 
cool to me. 

605
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,400
I know that. 
Amanda Rach Lee, some people 

606
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,920
love her, Some maybe not as 
much. 

607
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,600
Some are diehards, you know, But
for me as a person who's been on

608
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,080
YouTube and kind of just been a 
part of the community, I mean 

609
00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:33,680
she's been a part of the 
community for such a long time, 

610
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,560
she's I think probably one of 
the biggest Youtubers in the 

611
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,680
planner community, at least from
followership and like things 

612
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,040
like that. 
So for me, I'm excited about 

613
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,800
that. 
I'm not sure what she's doing as

614
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,880
a part of hers. 
I'm assuming it's something that

615
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,880
has to do with like her shop and
doodling. 

616
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,080
I mean, just being Amanda Rach 
Lee and how you know, you 

617
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,320
probably people go to see 
certain things, so they're 

618
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,600
expecting certain things, I feel
like and she knows that. 

619
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,400
But I don't know if I get to 
introduce her. 

620
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,440
But I still feel like that it's 
going to be cool for me to be 

621
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,080
able to just get to meet her. 
You know, as someone that I've 

622
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,840
watched for a number of years 
and very much a part of the 

623
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,160
community along with never met 
her, never talked to her other 

624
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,000
than like maybe a message on 
like Instagram or something, you

625
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,200
know, just random. 
So looking forward to that and 

626
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,920
just being a part of that too. 
I think it's pretty neat. 

627
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,200
Yeah, you guys are going to be 
on the same stage as each other.

628
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,520
Like, that's a big deal because 
like you said, she is probably 

629
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,520
the biggest one in our community
as well. 

630
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,520
I think, like for bullet 
journaling in particular, 

631
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,200
because I don't really have a 
lot of experience outside of 

632
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,400
bullet journaling specifically 
when it comes to like planners, 

633
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,840
social media. 
Like, I'm not sure who the big 

634
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,120
names really are in like the 
Erin Condren space or the Happy 

635
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:40,600
Planner space or anything like 
that. 

636
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,880
But in bullet journaling, yeah, 
she's up there and you guys need

637
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:43,840
to be on the same stage. 
It's. 

638
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,640
Going to be pretty cool and 
maybe you don't know who the 

639
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,120
celebrities are because you are 
officially now one. 

640
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:50,200
I don't know if we want to 
announce this or not, but Jess 

641
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,400
officially is on celebrity 
birthdays, right? 

642
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,400
Like this is a big moment for 
you in this space. 

643
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,520
Oh my God, it's so cringe. 
It's like YouTube star. 

644
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,080
I'm like calm down like there's 
nothing * about. 

645
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:06,280
It but you are, Jess. 
You are. 

646
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,240
That's, it's something that I 
think over time as you're 

647
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,240
growing, I don't know if you're 
the same way or not because I 

648
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,680
still very much feel like 
imposter syndrome. 

649
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,480
And I think this just happens to
a lot of people. 

650
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,600
But just a number of people. 
Like when the other week I had 

651
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,600
gone into your Discord and I 
just popped into a thing and 

652
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,760
everyone was like, Mark is here.
And I was like, oh, I'm just 

653
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,880
listening to the content. 
And I almost felt like I almost 

654
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,880
stole a little bit of the light.
I was like, no, no, I'm 

655
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,040
literally just here to listen 
and like participate and just 

656
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,280
the people who are like messy, 
like, I can't wait to meet you 

657
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,840
and all these things, like, 
that's just so it's awesome. 

658
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,040
I don't say, like, that's weird 
to me, but it is weird for me as

659
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,160
an individual because when 
you've been creating content, 

660
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,880
you do this. 
You do feel like a speck of dust

661
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,560
amongst, you know, a million 
other specks of dust that are 

662
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,080
out there doing things. 
Unless for whatever reason, 

663
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,960
you're the, you know, Amanda 
Rachel Lee or there's a handful 

664
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,640
of others I can think of that 
are a part of this community 

665
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,480
that you're like, oh, damn, 
like, OK, you're one of those 

666
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,440
big names that are out there. 
But honestly, just you are right

667
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,080
up there. 
Honestly, with the amount of 

668
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,080
stuff you put out your 
communities and things like 

669
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,480
that, like you, you deserve your
birthday and all of the wrong 

670
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,840
information they put you on 
celebrity birthdays. 

671
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,760
I know, right, 'cause, like, I 
got this e-mail saying, like, 

672
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,840
oh, we've we've set you up a 
profile because people were 

673
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,680
searching for your birthday. 
I'm like, yeah, right, OK, sure.

674
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,040
People were searching for my 
birthday. 

675
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,560
I also love that it just came 
out as like, Oh yeah, we set you

676
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,240
up a profile. 
Like, no question as to whether 

677
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,200
you want one or anything. 
They're just like, we need a 

678
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,880
picture for it. 
I'm like, fine, Here is my 

679
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,480
stock, standard social media 
image that you could have stolen

680
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,480
off any one of my social media 
platforms. 

681
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,560
But OK, And then reading through
it, it's like born New Zealand. 

682
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,080
No, Like, absolutely not. 
It's like, one of her. 

683
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,440
What describers described her as
a wizard? 

684
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,520
I'm like, no, she is a 
self-proclaimed wizard, like 

685
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,080
nobody else is calling me a 
wizard. 

686
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,000
I only call myself that some 
people just follow along. 

687
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,280
That's just how. 
Yeah, that's right. 

688
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,880
Some people compare it back to 
me. 

689
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,960
Always appreciate it. 
We can be Wizards together. 

690
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,120
But it was kind of like a fun, I
don't know have I made it 

691
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,000
highlight? 
But also like, have I made it 

692
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,120
tongue in cheek, like being very
silly about it. 

693
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,480
It's having anything like this 
happened especially for me in 

694
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,560
this one. 
Just my experience so far with 

695
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,600
first getting the e-mail that 
says, Mark, we would like you to

696
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,320
host the crop from Zebra. 
I was sitting at lunch with my 

697
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,160
family. 
You know, we're like, at the end

698
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,360
of the meal, I'm just checking 
my phone and I just saw the 

699
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,720
e-mail and I was like, I I kept 
rereading it. 

700
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,480
I was like, oh, they want me to 
like do something small, you 

701
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,360
know, that's cool. 
Like, I was there last year. 

702
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,160
This is me. 
And then it was like, you know, 

703
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,800
we would like to sponsor you and
we would like to have you host 

704
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,640
the crop and do this workshop. 
And I was like, turned up my 

705
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,320
wife. 
And I was like, Oh my gosh, 

706
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,240
this, this is huge. 
And this feels very weird for me

707
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,320
because I don't feel like I'm at
a status to host a thing or 

708
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,080
would even people know who I am 
at this thing? 

709
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,920
Because it is for all planners. 
Like you mentioned before. 

710
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,160
Like, we've been a part of the 
bullet journal space for a 

711
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,640
really long time. 
And I know a number of other 

712
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,880
people. 
And actually that's what I want 

713
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,200
to follow up and ask you about 
this from your experience last 

714
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,800
year before we get into like how
we've been planning for this 

715
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,840
year. 
But it just seems so weird 

716
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,640
because you're going to go to a 
spot where thousands, right. 

717
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,680
There's like thousands of people
who are there that don't 

718
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,560
necessarily bullet journal. 
And then you're going to ask me 

719
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,720
to host a thing where I'm going 
to do a workshop. 

720
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,200
And I'll talk about this in a 
little bit in my preparation 

721
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,160
part. 
But this because mine involves 

722
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,240
putting together essentially a 
workshop for this, but thinking 

723
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,720
about, you know, what am I going
to experience there in my field 

724
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,960
of planning. 
So as a bullet journalers, you 

725
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,920
know, you're going to a planner 
conference where it's not a 

726
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,320
bullet journaling conference, 
It's just a general planner 

727
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,000
conference with a short number 
of people who know about bullet 

728
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,360
journaling, but not maybe 
necessarily about you 

729
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,680
individually other than like the
people that are part of your 

730
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,440
community. 
But that is something I'm 

731
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,600
interested in looking to do is 
having those conversations with 

732
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,920
other people that I don't feel 
like we get to have as much, 

733
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,000
which we've kind of talked about
on this podcast is, you know, 

734
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,600
the different types of planning.
Like what do you get out of it? 

735
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,720
Why did you start planning? 
I feel like those are probably 

736
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,560
normal conversations and like 
Ice Breakers that probably 

737
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,960
happened. 
Like how did you get into 

738
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,520
planning? 
What system are you using? 

739
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,000
What's your favorite pen? 
Yeah, So what system are you 

740
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,600
using is like the like, you 
know, pinnacle of icebreaker 

741
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,960
questions when it comes to a 
planner conference like this 

742
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,920
because like you said, it's not 
necessarily themed around one 

743
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,920
style of planning. 
It's not like a happy planner 

744
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,000
convention or you know, a bullet
journaling convention. 

745
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,360
It's all planner enthusiasts 
from all planner walks of life. 

746
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,320
So getting to make connections 
with people who otherwise you 

747
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,200
probably wouldn't because like 
you said, we are very much in 

748
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,960
the bullet journaling space. 
Like, I want to make connections

749
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,880
with happy planners. 
I want to make connections with 

750
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,400
people who are using like the 
Passion Planner or whatever 

751
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,760
else. 
I think that one of the big 

752
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,240
things last year was actually 
learning about all these 

753
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,160
different types of planners that
I didn't really know about as 

754
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,480
well, which was kind of cool 
when it comes to the sessions 

755
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,520
that are led by, you know, the 
speakers and whatever. 

756
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,880
And a lot of them do represent 
planner brands. 

757
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,880
So we had like Moxie Life, 
Passion Planner, I'm pretty sure

758
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,880
we have Erin Condren notably. 
Well, this year we're going to 

759
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,080
have Amanda Rachel Lee. 
So you know, she's full of 

760
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,000
journaling but also has her own 
line of planners. 

761
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,960
Question mark. 
Yes. 

762
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,040
Yes. 
Well she has, yes. 

763
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,840
She has the blank notebook, she 
has a pre filled notebook and 

764
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,640
then she also released a digital
planner. 

765
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,560
I think that is kind of AI. 
Don't think it's a companion 

766
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,600
too, but maybe probably a 
digital version of the paper 

767
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,800
version I think. 
Plus, they'd like accessories 

768
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,000
and stuff that she has too. 
So she's, you know, I think it 

769
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,160
started just as notebooks, but 
she's definitely been expanding,

770
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,960
which is pretty cool. 
Yeah, because we also had a 

771
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,640
digital planner speech talk 
segment last year as well. 

772
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,200
So it's good to see that it is 
being catered towards a bunch of

773
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,760
different planner styles. 
We didn't necessarily have one 

774
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,440
that was like actually no, 
that's a lie. 

775
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,160
We did have a section last year 
that was kind of bullet 

776
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,240
journaling related in that when 
they had AI think it was the 

777
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,520
Founders panel which Bonnie was 
on. 

778
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,320
And we also had Linda Tong who 
does like kind of pre printed 

779
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,640
Bullet Journals as well. 
So that was kind of where we 

780
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,440
really saw the bullet journaling
aspect I suppose in the lineup. 

781
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,400
But this year Bonnie has been, I
don't know, promoted is the 

782
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,680
right word. 
I don't think it's like 

783
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,560
necessarily like that, but she 
is like a stand alone speaker 

784
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,320
for this one, which is exciting.
So it'll be nice to hear more of

785
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,760
what she has to say. 
But you know her brand Archer 

786
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,679
and Olive are kind of in the 
bullet journaling space because 

787
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:22,159
they're the kind of notebooks 
that you can use for bullet 

788
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:24,400
journaling. 
We also then have Amanda Rach 

789
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,120
Lee, who is a big representation
in the Bullet journal space as 

790
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,800
well. 
Who else do we have? 

791
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,000
I feel like there was another 
one. 

792
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:35,360
Crickets. 
I don't think cricket's going to

793
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,560
be there. 
This isn't about. 

794
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,600
Making yourself, why not? 
They totally gave away a cutting

795
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,600
machine last year. 
I don't know which one it was, 

796
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,840
but that was part of Wild Crop. 
So in Wild Crop they had like 

797
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,239
some little giveaways and stuff 
that were going on, which was 

798
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,719
quite exciting. 
That one I think was like a like

799
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,320
a quiz type thing and people had
to like raise their hand and 

800
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,800
stuff like that. 
But one of the best giveaways I 

801
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,480
did though was Zebra. 
And I will applaud Zebra round 

802
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,040
of applause on how they handled 
this. 

803
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,960
So when we came back after a 
break, everybody got like a 

804
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,960
raffle ticket and they did it as
a raffle. 

805
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,320
And I just, I loved that. 
It was fair. 

806
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,640
Everybody got a ticket. 
It wasn't about putting your 

807
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,040
hand up and screaming the 
loudest and all of that kind of 

808
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,840
thing. 
So shout out to Zebra. 

809
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,800
Excellent work on that one. 
We've been talking a lot about 

810
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,600
doing stuff like that as a part 
of this because again, in my 

811
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,200
mind the the crop and and doing 
my workshop part of this, I 

812
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,880
really just thought it was going
to be me just doing what I we've

813
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,000
been planning on doing. 
They were like, so we're going 

814
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,560
to you know pull people. 
We wanted to giveaways and all 

815
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,520
this. 
I was like oh, and I literally 

816
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,600
crossed out like a bunch of 
extra stuff that I had as a part

817
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,840
of my workshop because I was 
like, OK, this isn't just just 

818
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,640
like, no you don't understand 
this. 

819
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,680
This is just this is go wild. 
So it's a lot of energy and 

820
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,000
we're giving stuff away and 
you're doing your thing and 

821
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,960
people are participating. 
And I was like, this is just so 

822
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,720
different than anything that 
I've done before. 

823
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:57,200
I have the energy for it. 
I know that I can do it because 

824
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,360
I've definitely done it before. 
I do it every single day, every 

825
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,600
single video, which is my 
personality. 

826
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,480
But it is just very cool to 
think about just the excitement 

827
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,920
about it and what's going to be 
happening and all the stuff that

828
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,280
can possibly happen. 
I know, right? 

829
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,000
I'm so excited for you and I'm 
so excited for us getting to see

830
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,120
you be excited. 
It's just going to be great. 

831
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,560
So conference day one on the 
Friday, we have our sponsored 

832
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,560
tables on that day with you know
all of the goodies and bits that

833
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,200
they're providing for us, which 
is always a very good part. 

834
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,000
But then on day 2, this is where
we don't have sponsor tables but

835
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,280
we do have the opportunity for 
table make gifts. 

836
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,800
This is a completely optional 
part though. 

837
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,680
You do not have to provide table
make gifts, but it's always 

838
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,680
really exciting. 
I'm like sitting over here like,

839
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,680
Oh my gosh, I have to bring. 
I have to do other things now. 

840
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,880
I don't even know what I'm doing
each day. 

841
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,520
Now I have to think think about 
table mates. 

842
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:49,720
You don't have to. 
You don't have to. 

843
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,160
It is completely optional. 
It is just a bit of fun. 

844
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,040
Oftentimes people will bring 
maybe like a sweet treat or 

845
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,120
something from wherever they're 
usually based. 

846
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,640
So, anyone who's from Canadia? 
Canadia. 

847
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,840
Wow. 
I apologize, Canada, That was 

848
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,280
rude. 
I call a Canadian too sometimes 

849
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,280
that I they're my next door 
neighbors. 

850
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,320
I am so sorry to the entire of 
Canada. 

851
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,440
Please do not come for me, but 
yes, People from Canada, they 

852
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,280
typically bring this like 
crunchy treat thing that people 

853
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,520
like really into. 
I don't know what it is. 

854
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,360
I've just heard no, no, no. 
It's like a individually 

855
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,280
wrapped. 
I'm just gonna call it Canadian 

856
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,280
crunch because I don't know what
it is, a coffee crunch. 

857
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,520
Has it got coffee in it? 
I don't know. 

858
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,840
The only thing I know about 
Canada is like Canadian bacon. 

859
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,560
Like, that's the only thing that
would come to mind. 

860
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,040
And that would feel weird to be 
like here's an individual 

861
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,960
wrapped Canadian bacon. 
That would be so great. 

862
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,840
You just flop out a piece of 
meat. 

863
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,040
Like here you go table mates, 
this is for you. 

864
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:50,080
But last year I got a mini 
waffle iron, like a little 

865
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,080
electric one. 
I know it was crazy and I was 

866
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,560
like very excited about it, 
except for the fact that it was 

867
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,280
American and you guys have 
different plugs to us. 

868
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,440
So it's not like I could 
actually use it at home. 

869
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,440
So I had to give my mini iron 
away. 

870
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:03,600
This is fine. 
Wait. 

871
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,840
Couldn't you have gotten like 
the six prong converter to, 

872
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,520
like, make your mini waffle iron
work, set your house on fire? 

873
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,320
It literally would have though, 
because the voltage or wattage 

874
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,240
or whatever we have here is a 
lot higher than the US one. 

875
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,920
So it'll be like your waffles 
going to cook really fast and 

876
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,680
then your house is going to cook
really fast. 

877
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:24,680
So like, let's not test the 
fates. 

878
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,480
Oh my gosh. 
Speaking of that stuff real 

879
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,680
quick, one of the things that I 
know that people talked about is

880
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,160
like, I won't call them player 
cards, but they like hand stuff 

881
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,800
out to people and like, collect 
them. 

882
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,480
Is that something I also need to
be prepared for? 

883
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,520
Yeah. 
So contact cards is what they 

884
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,440
call them. 
But these are usually done as 

885
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,680
like little sticker cards. 
They can't just be like, they're

886
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,000
effectively like business cards.
You don't have to make them into

887
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,120
stickers. 
And last year I was like, oh, 

888
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,120
you know, getting these my sent 
to New Zealand or whatever, or 

889
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,280
having to make them myself, like
feel like a bit of a kerfuffle. 

890
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,400
I'll just do a little QR code on
my phone. 

891
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,120
So on my kind of lock screen and
my phone, I had a little QR code

892
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,640
that people could scan. 
It took them to my link tree and

893
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,360
I got the I got the biggest FOMO
like so badly. 

894
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,000
I was like, Oh my gosh, I got 
like super cute contact cards. 

895
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,320
I ended up making a little 
contact card shrine in my 

896
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,200
journal for all of the contact 
cards that I collected from 

897
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,600
people because I just loved it 
so much. 

898
00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:24,320
That's what I heard from a lot 
of people. 

899
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,440
Look at that. 
Yeah. 

900
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:26,200
Oh my God. 
Right. 

901
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,440
You're here on YouTube. 
You get to see it, but it's 

902
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,720
effectively just all of the 
little stickers that people gave

903
00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:32,640
me. 
Can you just screenshot that to 

904
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,360
me so I can like get an idea so 
I can probably. 

905
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,520
I feel like I have to do 
something right? 

906
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,000
Like I have to do something. 
I would recommend it. 

907
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,400
I mean, it's just a really nice 
way to give somebody kind of 

908
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,040
like effectively like a keepsake
for your interaction with them. 

909
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,200
The best contact cards, though, 
I personal opinion on the ones 

910
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,240
that have a picture of the 
person on it. 

911
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:53,760
Because you meet so many people 
through this thing that actually

912
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,880
putting like names and faces 
together became very tricky. 

913
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,080
So anybody who gave me a contact
card with a picture of them, 

914
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,640
that one was like, oh thank you,
light in the dark. 

915
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,800
I remember who you are now. 
Not to say our interaction 

916
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,080
wasn't important, I just forgot.
I know what you mean. 

917
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,000
You're meeting hundreds of 
people or thousands of people 

918
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,640
that you're seeing him by 
bypassing. 

919
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,400
Like, I feel like it's 
impossible to, like, remember 

920
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,040
anyone's name. 
I can't do that with people I 

921
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,800
work with every day. 
Yeah, exactly. 

922
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,240
I think the number of times that
I've accidentally called my 

923
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:24,320
brother my partner's name is 
becoming a problem, but 

924
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,360
hopefully that won't happen. 
I hopefully I'll get everybody's

925
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,240
name right this time around. 
But contact cards with faces on 

926
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:33,920
them always a winner in my book.
So those ones get handed out 

927
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,360
kind of just throughout the 
conference. 

928
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,280
There isn't like a set specific 
time but I do plan for my table 

929
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,360
make gifts this time around to 
include one of those with my 

930
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,240
table make gifts. 
I was like, hey this is your 

931
00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:46,760
present from Jess. 
Here's her face so you can 

932
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,160
remember who she is. 
Can I, like, give like, extra 

933
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,280
pens that I haven't used before?
I don't. 

934
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,760
Yeah. 
I mean for sure, like we have, 

935
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,720
even if you don't want to do 
that as part of the table, make 

936
00:40:57,720 --> 00:41:00,200
gifts, they do usually have 
something called AD stash table,

937
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,800
which you can probably tell from
the name what that one's about. 

938
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,400
I picked up a very cute little, 
I don't know, patch or something

939
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,480
last time I was there. 
It's a little shark that says, 

940
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,040
like, there's a shark behind 
you, 100% behind you. 

941
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,840
And it's the cutest thing. 
So I put that on my wall because

942
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,760
I was like, oh, I don't really 
have any clothes that I want to 

943
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,480
sew this to, but it can be like 
a little like plaque. 

944
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,240
But they do have the desash 
table, which you can't bring, 

945
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:24,440
like surplus supplies that maybe
you're not going to use but 

946
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,920
somebody else could use. 
So I really should go through my

947
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,360
washi tape and make sure that 
I've picked out some pieces for 

948
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,000
that. 
Because, you know, I don't want 

949
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,520
to take too much because of 
international travel and all, 

950
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,000
but it is nice to be able to 
give that to people who you know

951
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,080
are going to use it. 
Because these are your people. 

952
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,400
These are your planner 
enthusiasts. 

953
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,320
That's actually a good idea. 
I can destash all of my washi 

954
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,840
tape as my table partner to 
things would be like, I'm 

955
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,040
gifting you washy. 
And really it's just the washy 

956
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,120
I'll never ever use. 
No. 

957
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,080
That's fine. 
I mean, like, again, it's going 

958
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,360
to go to somebody who's going to
be more inclined to use it than 

959
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,760
you, and that's a good thing. 
I know people make like little 

960
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,200
washy samples and stuff as part 
of their table make if 

961
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,080
sometimes. 
So if you wanted to go to the 

962
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,760
effort of wrapping it around a 
card, like you could but you 

963
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,360
could just give away full roles 
as well, that's totally fine. 

964
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,240
People are very appreciative and
like we said, it is completely 

965
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:12,320
optional. 
So like anything, is is always 

966
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,880
gonna be like an exciting 
moment, I suppose. 

967
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,000
How many people should I plan 
for for something like that? 

968
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,840
Good question. 
So typically there are 10 people

969
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,920
per table, but one of those 
people is you. 

970
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,080
So, OK, nine people. 
Oh, I can totally do that then. 

971
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,880
OK, I know exactly what I'm 
gonna do now. 

972
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,320
So perfect. 
This was this is fantastic. 

973
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,440
Last year for Table Mates, I 
It's one of those things you 

974
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,440
don't want to show up empty 
handed and I want to feel like 

975
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,680
I'm, you know, meeting a certain
level of my own personal 

976
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,720
expectations. 
So do not take this as an 

977
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:42,840
expectation for literally 
anybody else. 

978
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,160
But I hit up the Black Friday 
sale at Archer and Olive because

979
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,520
they had some crazy good deals 
before I went to go wild last 

980
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,200
year. 
So I got all of my table mates A

981
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:56,040
blackout notebook, like an A5 
blackout notebook, and a set of 

982
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,480
the primary acrylic graphs 
because they were so, so 

983
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,480
decently discounted. 
I had a voucher. 

984
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,120
I'm like, heck, why not? 
So everybody got like, I don't. 

985
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,600
I'm not doing the math. 
They got a decent present from 

986
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:08,640
me. 
That's really. 

987
00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:10,600
I mean, that's actually a good 
idea too. 

988
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,120
All right, well, I have all the 
ideas I need now, now that I 

989
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,640
know exactly what we're getting 
into here. 

990
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,800
Excellent. 
So that's on day two. 

991
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,840
We don't have sponsor tables. 
You don't have to sit at the 

992
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,200
same table. 
You can sit effectively wherever

993
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,680
you want. 
But table mate swaps happened 

994
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,880
that day in particular, we let 
the first day be like the time 

995
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,880
for the sponsor table to shine. 
We do. 

996
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,680
Our table will make gifts on the
second day. 

997
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,080
So on day two we have more of 
that kind of just general 

998
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,160
conference speakers, that kind 
of thing, up until about 2:00 PM

999
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,680
ish. 
We then have the afternoon off 

1000
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,000
again and then on Saturday 
night, that is when we have 

1001
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,160
planned jammer. 
So much fun, so exciting, open 

1002
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,640
by food provided, which I didn't
know last time. 

1003
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,600
So we went out for dinner and 
then we got there and the food 

1004
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,400
looked amazing, but we'd already
eaten. 

1005
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,760
So we're like, wow, no, not this
time. 

1006
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,200
I'm going to go with an empty 
stomach. 

1007
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,320
And then the last day is really 
just pack up and ship out. 

1008
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,120
And that's kind of like organize
any little meet ups and whatever

1009
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,800
else you want to do yourself. 
But there's nothing like 

1010
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,840
formally organized for the 
conference. 

1011
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,680
So you've shared your planner, 
so you have a dedicated Go Wild 

1012
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,960
planner. 
So I'm curious what you've been 

1013
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,320
doing also on top of this to 
prepare for this year because I 

1014
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,720
feel like your planning is a 
little bit different, a lot of 

1015
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:18,240
it different than me because I'm
really just hopping on a plane 

1016
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,560
and flying for five hours and 
landing, you know, versus you 

1017
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,720
who is literally flying. 
How long is that flight, by the 

1018
00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:26,760
way? 
One of them is like a 17 hour 

1019
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,280
flight, I feel because there's 
like there's an hour to Auckland

1020
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,920
and then a wait and then there's
like 17 hours to Houston or 

1021
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,720
whatever and then a wait and 
then the flight from Houston to 

1022
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,600
Dallas, Fort Worth, which is not
17 hours, like distinctly not. 

1023
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,080
No, that's the shortest of your 
of your rides that day. 

1024
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,400
Which makes total sense on why 
you're saying like, I'm not 

1025
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,320
bringing a lot of extra stuff 
with me, because that's a lot of

1026
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,520
opportunity for stuff to get 
lost, I feel like. 

1027
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,160
Yeah, last year when we went 
Vogel suitcase, like the the 

1028
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,840
wheel got snapped off of it. 
Mine got fully bashed in at the 

1029
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,160
corner, but he's literally lost 
a wheel. 

1030
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,800
So, you know, don't really want 
to test the fates too much. 

1031
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,160
But I am flying a different 
airline now because that one 

1032
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,560
cannot be trusted anymore. 
That's fine, I know. 

1033
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,720
Is Vogel coming with you again 
this year? 

1034
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,280
No, not this time. 
He don't get angry Texas, he 

1035
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,520
said. 
He didn't have a lot of interest

1036
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,160
in going to Texas. 
And I'm like, well, if I don't 

1037
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,240
have to pay for another flight 
ticket and accommodate you and 

1038
00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:24,040
find things for you to do, then 
that is fine. 

1039
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,960
So it's awesome he's going to 
stay here. 

1040
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,160
So this is very much a jest 
trip. 

1041
00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:30,560
Yeah, very much that. 
Which is nice because, you know,

1042
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,280
I get to like have my own little
kind of getaway moment and I 

1043
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,680
don't have to make sure that 
he's like, entertained. 

1044
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,400
Not that he can't entertain 
himself. 

1045
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,840
It's just I felt kind of guilt. 
Like every morning I'd be like, 

1046
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,800
OK, bye, You're still in bed. 
I'm going to go like have fun 

1047
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,640
with my friends and you can go 
to the zoo or whatever. 

1048
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,240
He had a good time. 
He did, but like, it was, it was

1049
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:50,280
kind of strange, like 
effectively going on holiday 

1050
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,920
with him but like without him. 
So this time I don't have to 

1051
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,160
worry about that. 
I felt comfortable enough this 

1052
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,320
year to actually book my own 
flights though, which was like 

1053
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,880
kind of like an adult moment for
me. 

1054
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,360
Like I would, I would like a 
badge for that please. 

1055
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,760
Because last year we went 
through a travel agent because I

1056
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,400
could just not get the flights 
to line up in a way that wasn't 

1057
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,600
like, yeah, you've got a 30 
minute layover when you need to 

1058
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,280
be there like 2 hours 
beforehand. 

1059
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,400
I'm like, OK, that'll workout, 
thanks. 

1060
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:15,240
So this year I managed to book 
my own flights though, so that's

1061
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,120
excellent. 
Means I save myself a little bit

1062
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,520
of money and I get to have the 
airlines that I prefer. 

1063
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,760
So that's a win. 
And then also organizing the JCC

1064
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,440
meet up, so Jashi curing 
community, which of course 

1065
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,280
anybody in the Dallas Fort Worth
whatnot area or if you're 

1066
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,560
further away and you just want 
to travel, that's cool too. 

1067
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,120
Like you're more than welcome to
come along. 

1068
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,040
That one is going to be on the 
Thursday afternoon from like 

1069
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,840
2:00 PM. 
I've started planning it. 

1070
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,520
We're almost there. 
I feel like I should be more 

1071
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,640
prepared at this stage, but 
it'll happen. 

1072
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,720
And then that last part would 
probably just be like making 

1073
00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:47,160
sure that all of my work stuff 
is going to come out without me.

1074
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,640
So like getting all of my videos
ready for release and scheduled 

1075
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,800
to come out without me having to
press any buttons, doing this 

1076
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,600
stuff for Instagram. 
So that's going to come out 

1077
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,440
without me. 
Anything like that which I am 

1078
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,720
not behind on yet, but I could 
very easily become behind on if 

1079
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:06,160
I don't make it a priority. 
You're so much of a professional

1080
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,200
because I'll be honest with you,
I've not even thought that far 

1081
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,960
in advance. 
Like the other day we were 

1082
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,040
talking about, you know, 
commitments and things that 

1083
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,600
we're doing. 
I'm like, I'm just committing to

1084
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,880
putting down the next three 
videos that I want to record. 

1085
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,000
And you're already like, I'm 
going to plan stuff that I don't

1086
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,080
have to press. 
I was like, I'm just probably 

1087
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,280
going to take a break from like 
videos and stuff. 

1088
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,480
I I probably will be on 
Instagram a lot just because I 

1089
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,800
feel like that is like prime 
time, just to share that 

1090
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,840
experience and people that were 
meeting and anything else like 

1091
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,560
that. 
But I don't even know. 

1092
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:36,880
I've even thought about the 
other stuff. 

1093
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,480
But again, you're a true 
professional. 

1094
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,760
You do this for a living. 
I'm literally just like whatever

1095
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,840
I feel like posting today. 
Well, last year I was very much 

1096
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,040
into this kind of like, I don't 
know, I'm going to call it a 

1097
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,640
little hustle. 
It was a little hustle moment 

1098
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,520
about like, I really need to be 
better on Instagram. 

1099
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,480
We're just going to put aside 
the fact that you don't need to 

1100
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,560
do anything, but it's fine. 
So I really wanted to get better

1101
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,440
on Instagram, actually be more 
consistent with it. 

1102
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,800
So I like, you know, took 
photos, trim them down, put the 

1103
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,360
watermarks on, whatever, 3 
pictures a day for my entire 

1104
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,480
stay in the States. 
So that was like 2 weeks worth 

1105
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,520
of three photos a day. 
That was an effort. 

1106
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,120
But then the photo making itself
is something that I can kind of,

1107
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,720
you know, batch all the photo 
taking, batch all the photo 

1108
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:25,200
trimming, that kind of thing. 
When it comes to the caption 

1109
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,640
writing, I hate writing captions
so much. 

1110
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,600
They're so boring and I feel 
like, OK, I want to provide 

1111
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,400
value here. 
How many words do I need to 

1112
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,240
provide value? 
How much do I actually need to 

1113
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:38,160
explain this picture? 
Will people get it? 

1114
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,920
Probably not. 
And then do I have to respond to

1115
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,600
comments? 
I say have to respond to 

1116
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,280
comments. 
It's not have to. 

1117
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,200
I enjoy getting comments. 
I enjoy interacting with people,

1118
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:47,840
but it felt like a lot of a 
burden. 

1119
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,440
I'm going to schedule them. 
I can tweak them when I'm 

1120
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,040
actually there in terms of the 
captions. 

1121
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,720
So half of them just had a 
caption that there was X, like 

1122
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:57,800
little kiss X. 
And then I just forgot that I 

1123
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,120
was supposed to edit them. 
So all of these pictures came 

1124
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,400
out with X. 
It's just like nobody called me 

1125
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,720
up on it. 
Like it didn't really matter 

1126
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:05,960
that much. 
But I was like, Oh my gosh, how 

1127
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,480
unprofessional. 
Why did you let this happen? 

1128
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,480
Kind of a thing. 
I was going to say I know 

1129
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,200
exactly how you feel with a lot 
of the captions. 

1130
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,320
I feel like after you do things 
for so long too. 

1131
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,040
It's probably like a lot of the 
celebrities don't usually go 

1132
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,560
into like a lot of detail. 
When you're posting things like 

1133
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,840
that is just at certain points, 
you don't really have to. 

1134
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,040
You made a comment last episode 
that really rang true with me is

1135
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,280
this idea that our community has
kind of grown, they've matured 

1136
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,160
over time. 
A lot of people have been bullet

1137
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,440
journaling for a while that they
kind of get it. 

1138
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,160
And I was along the same lines 
thinking about this recently 

1139
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,560
because I'm the same way you 
are. 

1140
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,920
I want to provide as much value 
as I can for people so that they

1141
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,320
don't have to do extra work. 
It's the UX are in me and you as

1142
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:45,840
well, right? 
Like you just want to create a 

1143
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,880
good experience for the person 
going through that. 

1144
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,680
But so many people usually will 
know what's going on. 

1145
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,480
It probably very much depends on
what you're posting. 

1146
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,080
But it's like, what notebook are
you doing? 

1147
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,400
What's the main idea? 
If you're asking a question but 

1148
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,040
not going into such detail where
it's like a super long lengthy 

1149
00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:04,440
post, like you said, what's the 
most valuable piece you're kind 

1150
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,160
of doing there that might just 
be. 

1151
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,720
That's kind of where my brain is
going to be if like all my 

1152
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:11,120
content will just be while I'm 
there because I'm a very much 

1153
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,320
time and place type of 
Instagrammer. 

1154
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,480
So anything I'm doing is usually
like literally taking my 

1155
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,360
picture. 
Right now I'm posting it versus 

1156
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,680
oh, I took that picture 3 weeks 
ago because I will take that 

1157
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,880
picture 3 weeks ago with total 
intention to do that. 

1158
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,080
Same things with the hundreds of
screenshots that I have as well.

1159
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:33,440
I think it's an ADHD thing. 
Never remember that even existed

1160
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,360
once. 
It goes past like the first 

1161
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,840
three columns of whatever is in 
my photo real. 

1162
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,120
So I think that you could 
probably get away with a lot 

1163
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,600
less especially during that time
too. 

1164
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,040
I can only imagine just you know
the flight and landing and 

1165
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,280
getting to where you need to go 
and planning all of the stuff. 

1166
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,120
I think we will, We can forgive 
you, Jess, during that period of

1167
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,280
time for less than you know what
you usually put into your 

1168
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,120
comments. 
I appreciate that. 

1169
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,200
But on your note of like, having
that many pictures and stuff 

1170
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,800
that you just never go back to, 
there are so many folders on my 

1171
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,400
computer that are just called to
sort for photos, like, and 

1172
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,600
they're in a bunch of different 
places, 'cause it's just like, 

1173
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,200
Oh yeah, just take all the 
photos off of my phone and put 

1174
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,840
them in a folder and I'll get 
around to them. 

1175
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,640
No, no, I will not. 
And then also I have to remind 

1176
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,760
myself that when you provide 
going to say too much value in a

1177
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,200
comment, it's not quite what I 
mean. 

1178
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,160
But when you explain things too 
well in a comment on your 

1179
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,080
Instagram, like in the caption, 
you're actually limiting the 

1180
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,520
amount of engagement you can 
receive on that because then 

1181
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,400
people won't ask questions. 
So like, rather than telling 

1182
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,440
them like, Oh yeah, this is my 
notebook, these, it depends. 

1183
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,720
All of this, you're taking away 
an opportunity for people to ask

1184
00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:41,840
that. 
Like it's kind of a balancing 

1185
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,320
act of doing the work upfront to
put that information in so that 

1186
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,600
then people don't have to ask if
they, you know, want to know but

1187
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:49,920
they don't want to type a 
comment. 

1188
00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:54,600
But then also like if engagement
is important or if engagement 

1189
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,560
maybe is more important than not
putting that information in so 

1190
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,800
that you can have those 
questions and interactions with 

1191
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,120
people. 
So I just need to find the the 

1192
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,800
happy balance and. 
This is why you're the social 

1193
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,240
media professional. 
And I'm the kind of person that 

1194
00:52:07,240 --> 00:52:10,040
is like, look, I don't want you 
to have to ask me. 

1195
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,840
So here's the pen I'm using, 
here's a notebook that I'm 

1196
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,320
using, here's everything in this
picture where I got it from. 

1197
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,480
And some people will be like, 
wow, that's real salesy. 

1198
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,920
Mark, I'm like, no, no, no. 
I'm literally doing this. 

1199
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,760
I just want people to know, I 
have a conversation with you 

1200
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,480
about it, but if you don't have 
to ask me something and you can 

1201
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,240
just look at it, then you know 
why. 

1202
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,320
But at the same time, I do put 
those things and people will 

1203
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,160
still ask me like, what notebook
is that? 

1204
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,800
What pen is that? 
And I'm just like, OK. 

1205
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:35,760
Yeah. 
And then you get that moment of 

1206
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,640
like, it's kind of a selfish 
moment maybe, but you're just 

1207
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,480
like, can you read kind of a 
thing? 

1208
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,120
I'm like, I put this effort in 
for you. 

1209
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,480
But again, we like comments. 
We want comments. 

1210
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,160
That's how you like, you know, 
build engagement, build 

1211
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,360
community, build connections and
all of that kind of thing. 

1212
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,760
So comments are good. 
So those are the elements that 

1213
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,320
I'm kind of preparing for like, 
you know, getting my content 

1214
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,440
out, you know, international 
travel of that. 

1215
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,080
But I'm going to say that yours 
is probably looking a little bit

1216
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,760
different with the hosting of 
wild crop and stuff, maybe less 

1217
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,680
travel, more like actual stuff 
to do while you're there. 

1218
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,480
What can you tell us without, 
like, spoiling anything about 

1219
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,000
your planning process? 
I've very much been thinking 

1220
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,840
about this because I knew we 
were going to talk about it and 

1221
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,200
I'm thinking, well, how much do 
I want to share about this? 

1222
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,920
Again, I can't share any of the 
special things that Zebra and I 

1223
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,440
have in store because I very 
much want that to be something 

1224
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,040
that everyone gets to experience
on their own at the event 

1225
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:27,920
itself. 
But for myself, the biggest 

1226
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,760
thing for me honestly has been 
thinking about the workshop part

1227
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,880
of this. 
Because as I mentioned before, 

1228
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,280
I've done a lot of these virtual
conferences before, even live 

1229
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,160
ones before with different 
brands. 

1230
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,720
And and those just are very 
scheduled, right? 

1231
00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:44,000
It's like, here's what you do, I
follow my outline, we go about 

1232
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,840
it and everything is great, 
right? 

1233
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,240
And that's in my mind how this 
was going to go. 

1234
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:51,520
So that's exactly what I did. 
So my preparation really was a 

1235
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,760
lot, just thinking about what I 
was going to do as a part of 

1236
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,720
this workshop because being 
someone who has never been a 

1237
00:53:57,720 --> 00:54:01,200
part of Go Wild before, really 
experienced, I wasn't sure. 

1238
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,600
And some of the things I did 
again, the UX researcher in me, 

1239
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,040
I was like, hey, can I get a 
call with the Go Wild people and

1240
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:09,840
Zebra? 
I have some questions because I 

1241
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,440
was asking about demographics. 
I was asking about the type of 

1242
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,520
planners that people are using. 
You know, are these people 

1243
00:54:15,720 --> 00:54:17,920
notebook, digital? 
And they were just like, it's 

1244
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,480
literally everything, Mark. 
And I was like, OK, but if I 

1245
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,480
talk about bullet journaling 
specifically, is that going to 

1246
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,480
bore people? 
Like, I want it to be something 

1247
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,920
that everybody can use. 
And they were like, you just do 

1248
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,760
you like, that's why we have you
as a part of this, Mark, because

1249
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,840
of the content you put out is so
fun. 

1250
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,040
And like, it's, it's engaging. 
And all of this, I was like, OK,

1251
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,560
but I don't want to be like, 
here's how did you set up a 

1252
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,720
bullet journal? 
And everyone be like, well, I 

1253
00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:42,920
don't bullet journal, so I don't
need that. 

1254
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,280
So what I've decided to do was 
not set up a bullet journal but 

1255
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,600
actually talk about cool 
elements that you can use, 

1256
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,240
things that I do use inside of 
my bullet journal but that 

1257
00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:55,680
everybody could use regardless 
of the type of planner system or

1258
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,440
planner or how you like to plan.
So we're going to be working on 

1259
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,000
a lot of, like, I call them, 
like core skills, but things 

1260
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,960
that push people a little bit. 
So some of those things that 

1261
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,600
usually intimidate me or I think
about people who are like, oh, I

1262
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,080
would love to do that, but I 
can't do that things around 

1263
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,120
lettering. 
I do it, but it's not great 

1264
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:12,720
grade or so. 
I don't think it's awesome. 

1265
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,320
But doing some things around 
that that you can do easily 

1266
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,920
inside of your planner, we're 
going to talk about also just 

1267
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,040
like setting up, let's say 
setting up weeklies, but I do 

1268
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,480
want to share, like this is how 
I plan and here's some helpful 

1269
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,600
things, but how can you take a 
foundational kind of basic 

1270
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,840
layout and up it a little bit 
without going too far? 

1271
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,440
We talk a lot about like the 
decorative side of planning. 

1272
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,360
And for myself, like I'm not a 
super decorative planner, but I 

1273
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,440
do like stamps. 
I like to pop some stickers in 

1274
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,160
there sometimes. 
I love pens, so I'm always like,

1275
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,880
OK, how can I incorporate those 
things? 

1276
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,600
And luckily Zebra has a lot of 
pens. 

1277
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,240
They have a mild liners, right? 
So we're going to be using a lot

1278
00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:51,200
of their tools to create things 
that you can use inside of your 

1279
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:52,920
planner. 
There's even a little bit of a 

1280
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,760
throwback to a conversation we 
had on those podcasts, which is 

1281
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,840
about performative tracking or 
performative bullet journaling 

1282
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,560
and the idea of how can we 
create these and then actually 

1283
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,360
use them and what can you use 
them for. 

1284
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,280
So without going like into like 
detailed details, which I just 

1285
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,440
want to spill it all now in a 
not that it's a secret, it's 

1286
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,360
just that you know, if you're 
going to be there, come out to 

1287
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,040
the crop. 
Because I think everyone gets to

1288
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,560
go to it if they want to. 
And the idea is that you're 

1289
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,520
going to come, we're going to 
have fun, we're going to learn 

1290
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,000
some things, and you're going to
have stuff that you can take 

1291
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,760
away and practice on your own 
and learn from that you could 

1292
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,840
use in any type of planner that 
you're doing. 

1293
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,520
So we're going to be doing 
everything by hand. 

1294
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,200
But if you're a digital planner,
come and learn, because 

1295
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,520
everything that I can do with a 
pen, you can do with your stylus

1296
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,280
or an Apple Pencil, right, If 
depending on the planner that 

1297
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:38,960
you're using. 
And then everything else, I 

1298
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,920
honestly kind of feel like I 
haven't had to worry about it, 

1299
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,480
which is very helpful. 
So like, Zebra has been taking 

1300
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,160
care of a lot of, like the 
travel arrangements and things 

1301
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:48,720
like that. 
They just asked me kind of like,

1302
00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:51,800
where do you want to leave from 
and when do you want to leave. 

1303
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,640
And I haven't had to book 
anything for myself, which feels

1304
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,760
very weird to say out loud 
because I'm like, I haven't had 

1305
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,520
to book anything myself. 
But I have it. 

1306
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,800
So I think probably because I 
haven't had to do that, I feel 

1307
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,920
less kind of connected to it. 
I just have my planner when I'm 

1308
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,560
leaving the flight that I'm on. 
I know when I have to be there. 

1309
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,120
Unfortunately, I actually have 
to leave on Saturday because I 

1310
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,920
have to get back here to 
Baltimore for an event that I 

1311
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,400
can't not go to. 
So it was something that 

1312
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,280
happened after this whole thing 
was going on. 

1313
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,440
I was like, crap, is this going 
to affect anything? 

1314
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,720
And luckily it's not. 
I just won't be able to see kind

1315
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,520
of the rest of Saturday that's 
going to be going on. 

1316
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,000
But just thinking about getting 
there, trying to very much just 

1317
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,840
be in the moment, you know, not 
checking work emails or text or 

1318
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,000
anything that's going on with 
that and just being there and 

1319
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,040
being mindful and just being and
enjoying that is really kind of 

1320
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,520
what I've been thinking about. 
And because I don't know 

1321
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,720
anything, I'm just kind of going
in it with that mindset. 

1322
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,200
Like Mark, you don't know. 
So go with the flow like that. 

1323
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,800
Normally in my life anyway, but 
at this event like I will just 

1324
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,560
be following. 
Well I'll be following you 

1325
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:54,720
probably around like a little 
puppy dog. 

1326
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,920
Like show me just how I do 
things because again I just 

1327
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,400
don't. 
I just feel like you know just 

1328
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:01,800
another person at this 
conference. 

1329
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,200
So I will just be there to 
absorb it and enjoy it. 

1330
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,080
I definitely can't wait to hang 
out with everybody and meet new 

1331
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,960
people. 
I mean even last year is it's 

1332
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,120
kind of funny because I think 
we're all sitting down to eat 

1333
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,120
lunch. 
A Co worker of mine that I work 

1334
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,360
with and I had no idea even goes
to things like this or is into 

1335
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,200
planning. 
We saw each other and I was 

1336
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,080
like, hey, what are you doing 
here? 

1337
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,360
She was like, I love planning 
and I was like, this is great. 

1338
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,640
It was so cool to come back to 
work the week later and just 

1339
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,840
talk about planners and how she 
uses her planners for work and 

1340
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,080
how I use mine, which were very 
different systems. 

1341
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,720
It was just super fun. 
So I really can't wait for those

1342
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,440
conversations, personally. 
No, I love the idea of, like, 

1343
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,840
meeting, you know, somebody in 
another area of your life in a 

1344
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,840
space that you thought was kind 
of like disconnected. 

1345
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,200
Sometimes it's a bad thing, but 
in this case it sounds like it 

1346
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:47,320
was a happy thing. 
A good thing. 

1347
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:49,440
It was very much a good thing. 
Yeah. 

1348
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,040
As more and more people find out
about, like, the social media 

1349
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,760
stuff, it isn't happening as 
much at work anymore. 

1350
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,080
It's actually happening with my 
girls and their friends. 

1351
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,280
They'll come down to where my 
studio is and they'll be like, 

1352
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,040
what's all this? 
And my girls will be like, oh, 

1353
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,000
my dad like, does videos and 
YouTube and stuff like that. 

1354
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,880
And they'll find me online and 
they'll be like, your dad's 

1355
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,920
famous and she's like, oh, I 
don't know. 

1356
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,680
They're like, no, no, he has a 
lot of followers on Instagram or

1357
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,800
he has a lot of subscribers on 
YouTube. 

1358
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,640
Like, he's kind of a big deal. 
And it just feels weird to me 

1359
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,800
because I'm just doing this in 
my basement, you know? 

1360
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,800
But it is very cool when you're 
meeting other people out and 

1361
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,000
about and talking about that 
because I don't feel like I get 

1362
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,800
a lot of that. 
Like, how do you use your 

1363
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,520
planner professionally in my 
day-to-day? 

1364
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,520
Because even at work for myself 
and my team, there's some people

1365
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,080
who write things down, but 
people aren't necessarily using 

1366
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,240
a system like I am. 
So we'll geek out on like pens. 

1367
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,280
I'll get like a new fountain pen
and everyone would be like, oh, 

1368
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,320
that's so cool. 
But I don't think anybody else 

1369
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,720
on my team use fountain pens. 
It's more like an appreciation 

1370
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,400
for. 
So this type of environment for 

1371
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,120
me, I think it's just going to 
be, I'll probably be like you're

1372
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:55,480
saying, by the time the night 
comes, I think my battery will 

1373
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,160
just be drained in the best 
possible way. 

1374
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,040
But I don't even know what time 
that'll be because honestly, get

1375
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:02,680
a few drinks in me, I can go all
night. 

1376
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,680
Well, we certainly did last 
year. 

1377
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:10,520
Like the Wild Plan Jammer Party 
kind of wraps up around 10 and 

1378
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,600
everyone's like, no, no, no, no,
we're going to take this part 

1379
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,760
into the lobby. 
We were like, I don't know who 

1380
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,480
bought the music, but we were 
all having a great time into the

1381
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,680
wee hours of the morning. 
And I was like, I for the hotel 

1382
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,280
stuff because they probably just
like, please go to bed, ma'am, 

1383
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,240
we need to tidy up and 
everybody's. 

1384
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:31,600
I'm very curious what the hotel 
stuff thinks about something 

1385
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,720
like this. 
Like, I'm sure in their minds, 

1386
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,840
so like, here's a bunch of, 
like, notebook stationary geeks 

1387
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,240
that are getting together the 
same way some people like, look 

1388
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:44,240
at like movie cons or like Star 
Wars conventions or any type of 

1389
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,280
other convention where if you're
not as a part of that community,

1390
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,080
you're like, why are these 
people so into this? 

1391
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,400
I feel like that's very much 
what's going to happen here. 

1392
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,240
But who cares about them? 
Because like, we're around all 

1393
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,280
of our planner pals, so it's 
going to be awesome. 

1394
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,400
Exactly. 
That's the best part about it is

1395
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:04,360
just getting around people who 
get you like they understand 

1396
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,800
your enthusiasm because they are
that way as well. 

1397
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:08,480
It's always the best part, I 
reckon. 

1398
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,200
And that's kind of why I decided
to go back this year, because 

1399
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,360
after last year I was like, OK, 
that's my one and done, you 

1400
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:14,800
know, this was an expensive 
trip. 

1401
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,400
And then the advertising came 
out for the next one. 

1402
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,800
I'm like, but I really loved 
hanging out with all of my 

1403
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,000
online friends and I want to go 
again. 

1404
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,520
I walk back into Vogels office 
like, please Sir, can I have 

1405
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:28,600
some more? 
And he's like, fine, so very 

1406
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,880
excited about that. 
I think it's very cool that 

1407
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,640
you're coming again. 
I really thought about it before

1408
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,560
I got asked. 
I think you had already planned 

1409
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,360
on going and everything else. 
And I was like, oh God, like the

1410
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,000
ticket and the travel just seems
like a lot for this. 

1411
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,960
It was different when it was in 
DC and I was like, oh, I can at 

1412
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:44,440
least go there. 
I think by the time I kind of 

1413
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,560
really found out about it, it 
was sold out already. 

1414
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,240
So I couldn't buy a ticket. 
And that's just how my life is. 

1415
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,240
I'm very much like, oh, actually
I should go to this. 

1416
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:53,280
It's like, sorry, we're sold 
out. 

1417
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:54,760
You're a week before the 
conference. 

1418
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,880
Like, you can't just do that. 
So this is one of those things 

1419
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,440
where I really thought about it 
and I was like, oh, that would 

1420
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,600
be cool to do. 
But then to find out that like I

1421
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,880
get to go and like do all these 
things is extra exciting for 

1422
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:05,280
this year. 
Very much so. 

1423
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,440
So I really can't wait for that 
real quick. 

1424
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:11,720
You did just mention this pajama
party, so I was told about this 

1425
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,080
thing. 
I personally, just, I'm going to

1426
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,240
be totally honest, I was not 
necessarily looking forward to 

1427
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:21,720
that because I'm like, I like, I
don't own a pajama set, you know

1428
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,840
what I'm saying? 
Like it's I'm sure it's very 

1429
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,800
like on theme for people and 
they probably theme it out or 

1430
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,920
buy special pajamas for this 
thing. 

1431
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,560
I'm a little too on the nose 
with things sometimes. 

1432
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,640
But when does that happen and 
should I have to prepare for 

1433
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,880
that or not? 
Because like I said, I do. 

1434
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,520
I need to buy pajamas. 
Yeah, you need to mentally, 

1435
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,200
emotionally, spiritually 
prepare. 

1436
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:42,800
No. 
OK Because I'm I'm the same. 

1437
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,200
I don't own pajamas. 
I have like a bed top and that 

1438
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,680
top is the top that goes to bed.
It's not this top. 

1439
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,040
This is the day top. 
And I've got like 7 of it. 

1440
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,440
And then I have the bed top. 
Like, I don't really want to 

1441
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,360
wear my actual bed top to plan 
jammer because it's kind of 

1442
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,040
like, I don't know, It just 
feels an approach like that's 

1443
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:02,960
for me and my partner go away. 
It's not that kind of sexy, but 

1444
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,480
whatever. 
It's like literally a $10 

1445
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,240
T-shirt from the warehouse. 
Some people do go out and 

1446
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,200
actually buy, like proper 
pajamas for it. 

1447
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:14,480
And I was tempted to do that. 
But I am so against the idea of 

1448
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,400
single use items, like bringing 
something into my, you know, 

1449
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,640
closet house, whatever, where 
the intention is to use it once.

1450
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,040
And and because I was only going
to be going to go wild once, I'm

1451
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,440
like, I don't really feel good 
about paying for pajamas that 

1452
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,840
are nice enough to wear out 
outside that I only wear once. 

1453
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,560
So I just ended up going in my 
regular clothes. 

1454
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,920
It was totally fine. 
But some people go hard out, you

1455
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,080
know, people like come in their 
robes with their, like, you 

1456
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,360
know, fluffy cuffs and stuff and
they looked so glamorous. 

1457
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,880
It's beautiful. 
And then everybody's gets very 

1458
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,160
into the leopard print. 
Of course, because we're going 

1459
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,080
wild. 
Last year in our welcome box, we

1460
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,160
actually got an eye mask that 
said like, Wake me in 

1461
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,680
Washington, DC, where Washy was 
like in a different lettering 

1462
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:57,240
style. 
Oh. 

1463
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:58,440
That's cool plan. 
Of people. 

1464
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,960
It was cute, so we had a lot of 
people wearing those as kind of 

1465
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,160
like headbands and stuff. 
So people do get very into it. 

1466
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,400
It is very much like a fit, the 
vibe type deal. 

1467
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,640
But you don't have to. 
I mean, everything's optional. 

1468
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,120
When they mentioned it to me, 
Zebra was like, you don't have 

1469
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:12,800
to, but if you want to get into 
it. 

1470
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,560
But I actually, again, I feel 
like I don't know why I feel so 

1471
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,240
disconnected from this as much 
as I am. 

1472
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,320
I think just so much of my focus
has been on the workshop and 

1473
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,600
like preparing for that. 
I don't even think I've really 

1474
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,600
looked at the schedule. 
So like is that when does that 

1475
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,480
pajama party? 
I know that's what I'm saying. 

1476
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,960
I feel, I feel like the most 
like non planner person right 

1477
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,720
now to go to a planner 
conference is not being prepared

1478
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:39,280
and I just don't know how to. 
Like, I think now that like, I 

1479
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,760
got the OK stamp, maybe I should
just really spend some time with

1480
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,560
this so I know what I'm getting 
into, but like, when is that 

1481
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,080
pajama party? 
So Planjama happens on the last 

1482
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,080
kind of official day of the 
conference, I suppose. 

1483
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,480
So that is on the Saturday 
night, which means sadly you 

1484
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,680
won't be able to go. 
This time, so don't have to 

1485
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,680
worry about getting a pajama 
set. 

1486
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,360
No, you'll be fine. 
I mean, unless you want to wear 

1487
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,320
your pajamas up on stage like 
it's wild crop. 

1488
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,440
I'm here at my PJS. 
Don't do that. 

1489
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,480
I mean you can but. 
Yeah, that was The thing is, I I

1490
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,440
don't know. 
I'm the same way as you. 

1491
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,040
Like it feels weird wearing your
pajamas you would wear at home 

1492
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:16,160
because I would just be wearing 
shorts and AT shirt essentially 

1493
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:17,360
like. 
Because I'd just be wearing 

1494
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,840
T-shirt and underwear and I'm 
like, nobody wants to see that. 

1495
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,600
So, like, let's not. 
I mean, I could do the same 

1496
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,320
thing. 
Maybe people want to see that, 

1497
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:25,800
maybe not. 
I don't know. 

1498
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,600
I feel like I will be a part of 
a very small demographic of 

1499
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,040
males at the Planner conference 
personally. 

1500
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:32,960
No, we're gonna keep that for 
the only fans, Mark. 

1501
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,320
Oh my gosh. 
Only Planner fans. 

1502
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,080
If I was in more shape, I would 
totally do that. 

1503
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:41,320
That would make so much sense 
for me financially, a lot better

1504
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:45,880
than what I'm making on YouTube.
That affiliate money ain't got 

1505
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,360
nothing on it. 
So then after the pajama party 

1506
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,600
happens, that's kind of the send
off. 

1507
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:52,960
Then the next day would be 
Sunday. 

1508
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,440
I'm assuming that's just a big 
travel day for most people. 

1509
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,440
Yeah, so it's really like a pack
up, ship out kind of day. 

1510
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,760
So it is on the official 
schedule. 

1511
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,840
It's like you know, brunch with 
your friends, but it's like it's

1512
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,640
all self organized. 
So technically, like it's the 

1513
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,720
last safe weekend, you're still 
technically there. 

1514
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,040
If you're not shipping out like 
super early in the morning, you 

1515
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:13,040
could go do some stuff. 
Last year this is when I decided

1516
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,240
to do my meet up. 
This year I'm not doing it on 

1517
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,520
the Sunday because I was so 
hungover. 

1518
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,800
I was probably the least person 
to be with. 

1519
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:23,400
So like, I learnt from my 
mistakes. 

1520
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:24,840
I'm not doing that again this 
year. 

1521
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,480
So yeah, our meet up is on 
Thursday instead before the kind

1522
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,680
of big major festivities happen.
So I have like the most energy 

1523
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,560
possible for the community. 
I feel like that's going to be a

1524
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,160
much nicer just to be. 
Around. 

1525
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,440
I think that'll be super fun. 
Like I said, I definitely want 

1526
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,640
to tag along with you for your 
meet up. 

1527
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,440
I if you're OK with that. 
I feel weird doing that because 

1528
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:43,920
it's a just meet up and I'm 
just. 

1529
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:45,960
I'm just going to go with you, 
if that's OK. 

1530
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:47,960
Now I'm just going to cross it 
out and be like planner pals 

1531
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,120
made-up. 
That's what it's going to be, 

1532
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:50,240
no. 
That's what I'm saying. 

1533
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,320
That's why I don't want it. 
I always feel that I was like 

1534
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:53,960
because that just kind of 
happens, right? 

1535
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:55,400
Like if you're hosting things or
people do. 

1536
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,960
And a lot of people, we have a 
lot of cross community. 

1537
01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:59,600
They're all part of the same 
community, right? 

1538
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,640
So I'm just like this is a just 
meet up. 

1539
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,600
Like I don't, I don't. 
I just feel weird with stuff 

1540
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,600
like that because it's almost 
like when you're going to 

1541
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,240
something like this, Like when I
crashed it last year, I was 

1542
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,160
like, I felt like I was kind of 
messing with the mix, right? 

1543
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,280
You're at this conference and 
you're here with your people. 

1544
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,600
And then like, I kind of like 
interject myself. 

1545
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,720
I felt like for a very selfish 
reason of like getting to meet 

1546
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,880
people and I kind of live it 
without living it. 

1547
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:25,080
So I just want to just be a part
of the things just as it's going

1548
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,960
on. 
So I, like I said, I'm going to 

1549
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,160
go with the flow. 
So like let's just just grab me 

1550
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,880
and be like Mark, we're going 
here and I'm like cool And I'm 

1551
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,480
going to chat planners with 
everybody else or whatever you 

1552
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,520
have going on. 
If you need any help your meet 

1553
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:38,800
up, let me know. 
Like, I also am a really great 

1554
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,360
wingman for helping with 
support. 

1555
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,480
Just just let me know. 
Always appreciate it. 

1556
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,200
But no, I completely understand 
the feeling. 

1557
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,760
It's like anytime, because I 
like to join live streams, 

1558
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,120
right? 
I like to jump in on a live 

1559
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,480
stream and like, you know, see 
what people in the community and

1560
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,280
doing or whatever. 
And I always like to comment 

1561
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,520
because, you know, it's building
their engagement or whatever. 

1562
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,600
And there's always that moment 
where people like, Oh my God, 

1563
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:57,960
Jess is here. 
I'm like, no, we're not here for

1564
01:07:57,960 --> 01:07:59,000
me. 
We're here for them. 

1565
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,720
Like, let's watch them, Let's 
get enthusiastic about them. 

1566
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:03,840
That's exactly how I feel about 
it. 

1567
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:05,720
And I'm not like, oh, Mark, 
you're going to walk in the room

1568
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:07,440
and everyone is gonna know you 
and take away. 

1569
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,040
Like I said, I just know that 
because people in this community

1570
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:13,000
know a lot of us where I'm like,
I don't, I'm not here for that. 

1571
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,200
Like I'm really here to be a 
part of the conversation. 

1572
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,240
So as long as I'm not too, you 
know, as long as I'm helpful 

1573
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,520
that's what I wanna be there 
helpful and just have 

1574
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,680
conversations with our planner 
friends because that's that's 

1575
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,040
what this is all about. 
I'm I'm really excited about it 

1576
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,279
and thank you for sharing your 
experience from last year. 

1577
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,760
If anyone has any other 
questions, we can certainly 

1578
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,960
comment about it and talk about 
it in the chats and anything 

1579
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:38,120
else that we might have on this.
Like we said, by the time this 

1580
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:42,160
is coming out, we'll be a week 
away and that's really exciting.

1581
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,680
And one of the questions I know 
that we wanted to ask at the end

1582
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:49,560
of this episode was about if 
people have gone to these type 

1583
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,399
of conferences before, because 
I'm just learning about one. 

1584
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,840
People have been asking me if 
I'm going to one that's in New 

1585
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:56,800
York. 
It's like stationary fest or 

1586
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,319
something like that. 
I've never heard of it before, 

1587
01:08:59,319 --> 01:09:01,439
but we would just love to hear 
from you. 

1588
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:05,920
If you've ever been to a planner
conference or a stationary show 

1589
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:10,399
or convention or anything like 
that, let us know about them 

1590
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,920
because I think 2 parts. 
One, what was that experience 

1591
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,840
like for you? 
But also, I love finding out 

1592
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,680
about these new things too. 
Because if you didn't know about

1593
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,920
Go Wild and you're listening to 
this podcast, now you know. 

1594
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,560
But also if you've been to other
ones that we're just not aware 

1595
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,800
of, let us know. 
Like that would be super cool. 

1596
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,640
If they're like, yeah, Mark, 
there's a huge stamp convention 

1597
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:34,080
that you can go to. 
I'd be like, yes, all the stamps

1598
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,000
ever possible. 
Like, I know there's pen shows 

1599
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,200
and things like that too, but I 
just love to hear about what 

1600
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:40,960
else is happening out there in 
the community. 

1601
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,880
So if you have been to any 
Planner conferences, or if you 

1602
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,359
know of any, please do either 
drop them in the comments if 

1603
01:09:46,359 --> 01:09:48,960
you're watching here on YouTube,
or you can hit us up at 

1604
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:53,520
plannerpalspodcast@gmail.com or 
at Planner pals on Instagram. 

1605
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,120
Your comments always mean a lot 
to us. 

1606
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,280
We would love to hear from you. 
So when we come back from Go 

1607
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:02,840
Wild, we will be just filled 
with excitement about this and 

1608
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:06,120
meeting and so many people in 
the community as well, both 

1609
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,960
whether you've only met them 
online or in our cases where 

1610
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:10,120
you've been lucky enough to meet
them. 

1611
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,800
Outside of that, our next 
episode, we wanted to talk about

1612
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:16,280
community over competition, and 
this is something that I think 

1613
01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:19,640
has wavered over the years, 
especially when I got started. 

1614
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:22,520
I felt like it was very hot and 
heavy and everyone's vying for 

1615
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,800
the number one spot. 
I don't know if because I've 

1616
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,160
grown over time, if it doesn't 
feel that way anymore or not, 

1617
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,240
but we're going to get into that
conversation a lot more. 

1618
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:33,320
So can't wait to talk with you 
just about that, because we've 

1619
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:37,160
both been in this for a while 
and probably seen similar, but 

1620
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,640
also very different parts of it 
too, especially because I feel 

1621
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,800
like you've grown very fast. 
I feel like I've only recently 

1622
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,080
just kind of grown fast, but 
you've been doing this for a 

1623
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,680
much longer time, so you've 
probably seen more things than I

1624
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,360
have, especially around this 
topic. 

1625
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,280
You've seen some things taking 
it back to that. 

1626
01:10:52,440 --> 01:10:55,360
Yes, I think that there has been
like ebbs and flows in terms of 

1627
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,760
it, but I'm really excited to 
get into that conversation with 

1628
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,240
you. 
So always, if you'd like to 

1629
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,600
check out the previous episodes 
of the Planner Piles podcast, 

1630
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,920
you can do so on all of your 
major platforming streaming 

1631
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,160
services. 
I'm sure if you're listening on 

1632
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:09,800
this one right now, you have a 
favorite. 

1633
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,760
So you head back to those and 
also over on YouTube, the 

1634
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,600
Planner Pals Podcast. 
And as always, if you have any 

1635
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,520
comments, questions, or even 
ideas for future episodes, we'd 

1636
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,800
love to hear from the community.
You can hit us up at our e-mail 

1637
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:26,080
Planner Pals podcast@gmail.com. 
Can't wait to hear from you and 

1638
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,600
Jess, I can't wait to see you in
just a few weeks. 

1639
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:32,160
It's going to be so much fun. 
I'm so excited that I will see 

1640
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:33,800
you then. 
And until next time, Platter 

1641
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,480
pals, thank you for watching.