1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,040 Hello and welcome to the Planner Pals Podcast, a podcast hosted 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,080 by two true planner pals. My name is Mark and I go by Mark 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,520 Your pages. And I'm Jess or Jessie Curran 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,800 and I feel like a bit of a fraud right now, to be honest, because 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,920 I know how helpful using my planner is. 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:16,800 But right now I just like don't wanna look at it. 7 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:19,800 I don't wanna, I don't wanna do it, Mark. 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,720 I don't know why, because it's like I have I have things to do 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,680 and I need to write down my plans and I need to make 10 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,200 progress on all of them. But there's just like something 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,520 that's been like, no, we're not journaling right now. 12 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,119 I'm just gonna be a low key hater on that and just do none 13 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:34,440 of it. Are you keeping your stuff 14 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,920 somewhere else right now? Like if you found another love 15 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,680 or you just like I just can't with anything, right? 16 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,400 I wish I had found another solution to this. 17 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,840 Like I'm just not feeling. I don't know. 18 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,080 Is it like inspired? I mean, here you see Parks and 19 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,920 Recreation. It's like that scene where 20 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,800 Andy's like I'm. Fine, it's just that life is 21 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,840 pointless and nothing matters and I'm always tired. 22 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,800 Also, I can't sleep, I'm overeating, none of my old 23 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,000 hobbies interest me. It's literally that I am that 24 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,920 about my journal right now and I don't have another solution, 25 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,560 which is very problematic because as in I have things to 26 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,600 plan, I have things to write down, I have things to keep top 27 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,160 log and I'm like you used to work for me, why isn't it 28 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,960 working right now? I've definitely been there 29 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:15,680 before as well, but I always try to find ways to bring myself 30 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,440 back in. So maybe today I could give you 31 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,440 a little bit of advice on some things you could possibly do to 32 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,160 help bring yourself back to your glorious bullet journal. 33 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,880 I would love it because yeah, I'm just, I feel like I'm just 34 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,440 in a bit of a slump, honestly. Like, and it usually happens 35 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:29,960 around this time of year as well. 36 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:32,240 It's it's always April. I like set up for April. 37 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,040 I'm like, well, yeah, I guess. I guess I did it. 38 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,080 Check the box. I set up April. 39 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,800 Now I have to use it. Honestly, I think it's just that 40 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,920 first quarter slump is kind of what I call it. 41 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,440 I think we know when you start off the year, you have your 42 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,640 journal or your planner picked out, you create that new videos 43 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,440 we always do and you're all hyped up on it. 44 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,880 And I think you just get into using it and then you're 45 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,040 suddenly like, well, maybe something isn't quite right or I 46 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,360 don't, do I need to change something? 47 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,240 I mean, I just changed my whole office around because I was 48 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,000 like, oh, I haven't changed it in a while and I have this new 49 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,840 direction or thing that I want to do. 50 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,360 So I think it kind of goes hand in hand. 51 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,160 It happens to everyone. Just so you're not alone, we 52 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,760 know that plenty of planner pals have been here before. 53 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,000 Some of my advice, I've done this before. 54 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,600 This was a number of years ago where I was just kind of like, I 55 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,920 think maybe I'm done with bullet journaling for right now. 56 00:02:18,920 --> 00:02:20,560 Like it wasn't kind of fitting my need. 57 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,120 And I stopped using it for about a week. 58 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,760 And it's a very dangerous thing. This is very risky to do because 59 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,440 as we know with any type of habit, you know, as soon as you 60 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,400 kind of fall out of it or there isn't any interest anymore, you 61 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,320 might forget about it. But I went without it for a week 62 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,400 and then I kind of started to figure out like, wait a second, 63 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,920 my bullet journal is actually really helpful. 64 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,840 All these things I'm struggling with could have all been solved 65 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,920 with my bullet journal. So I don't know how you feel 66 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:48,120 about that if you're not touching your bullet journal at 67 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,120 all right now or if you're just kind of dabbling with it or what 68 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,680 it is. But you know, going without, 69 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,920 it's that whole, like without it, the heart grows fonder or 70 00:02:55,920 --> 00:02:58,320 whatever that saying is. Ever since makes the heart grow 71 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:59,560 fonder. That was literally what I was 72 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:00,880 thinking. I'm just like, yeah, maybe we, 73 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,960 we just we're not breaking up. We're just on a break thing. 74 00:03:05,640 --> 00:03:07,880 There's like maybe some time away from it would kind of 75 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,840 remotivate me to actually get back in and use it, kind of like 76 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,000 highlight the importance of it and remotivate me to get back 77 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,480 into it so I can be like back on top of my stuff. 78 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,520 Like, yeah, let's just make the problem worse so that then it's 79 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,960 like, OK, actually, yeah, you do need that solution. 80 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,640 Let's get back into it. It could possibly work with 81 00:03:25,640 --> 00:03:27,440 people. I mean, even if it's not even a 82 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,120 full week off, because if that feels like too daunting for 83 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,800 someone, maybe it would just be like a couple of days without. 84 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,640 Like do we just need like a teeny vacation from each other? 85 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,480 It's a little bit of a risky thing because I know myself if I 86 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,200 don't do anything for about a week or so, I will never touch 87 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,400 it again. It's also the ADHD in me that 88 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,800 also causes that problem. But I have experience with this 89 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,280 one where I was just like, I need to do something different 90 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,240 and I tried it and I really didn't love it. 91 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,640 And I was like bullet journal is just always there for me. 92 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,920 I can always count on it. It's so it's a little bit of a 93 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,680 risky thing, but I don't know, I think you could potentially do 94 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:00,920 it. Can you imagine if I give you 95 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,560 this advice, Jess, and then you like never use a bullet journal 96 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,360 again. You're your career ends because 97 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,520 Mark give you really bad advice. I mean, it's certainly be 98 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:10,920 something. Can you imagine the video? 99 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,040 It's like I took bad planner advice and now I'm like $50.00 100 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,520 in debt. I don't know why I went fifty. 101 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,560 I was going to say 50 million. I'm like, that's too much. 102 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,160 So let's just like scale it back, $50.00 in debt doesn't 103 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,240 seem like that bad. But still no, I think that 104 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,480 you've got a point there. And also I liked your point 105 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,720 earlier about the idea of like the newness of it. 106 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,000 Like when we get into our journals for the start of the 107 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,520 new year, I mean, like, we're just going to sprinkle new all 108 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,440 over this new journal for the new year with your new layouts 109 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,560 and your new goals and everything feels fresh and 110 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,640 awesome. And actually, a video I was 111 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,200 watching the other day kind of talked about this, that, you 112 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,640 know, why do so many people kind of slump on their goals when it 113 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,400 comes to about March? And that's because it's no 114 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,960 longer new. Like it's not that kind of new 115 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,600 and exciting thing anymore. And you're kind of starting to 116 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,640 realize, like, OK, well, you know, I'm in the weeds of it 117 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,560 now. I kind of got to do the thing, 118 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,320 whatever their goal is, you know, it depends. 119 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,880 But if I've set the goal for the year, I still have a lot of time 120 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,640 left until the end of the year. So I could kind of just put it 121 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,840 off and you kind of get into this low motivated state kind of 122 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:14,360 slumpy and not working on your goals. 123 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,520 So maybe that's kind of what my planner has done, like we're the 124 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,320 new feeling has kind of worn off. 125 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,080 Maybe I just need to try something different. 126 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,680 Maybe not necessarily a different planner per SE, but 127 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,040 maybe something different in by planner because while you were 128 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,960 talking about it, I was just like, yeah, a lot of those 129 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,040 structures might just be feeling kind of stale. 130 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,600 I was going to say, I mean, something else that I've done 131 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,640 that it's been helpful, especially when I felt kind of 132 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,080 burnt out on it as I just kind of go back to the original, like 133 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,680 the very first or this is a great thing to go back to your 134 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,160 very first bullet journal and take a look and kind of get some 135 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,640 inspiration back from there. Like what was I doing in that 136 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,520 journal that it got me so excited about doing this that 137 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,160 now I've been doing it for 7/8, 9:10 in years? 138 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:58,920 That's something that I've definitely done. 139 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,640 I've kind of taken it back to the basics because I was getting 140 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,600 very overwhelmed with the amount of things that I was trying to 141 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,360 do inside of there. But then also just kind of flip 142 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,200 through if I need like a little like remember back in the day, 143 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,520 Mark, when you were like all gung ho about this? 144 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,920 How do I get some of that back? Yeah, just kind of like trying 145 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,760 to get re inspired from your past self because I find that 146 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,200 finding inspiration for planners can be very useful for getting 147 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,840 remotivated to get into it. Especially if there's like, you 148 00:06:24,840 --> 00:06:27,240 know, a particular problem you want to solve and you find some 149 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,680 potential solutions and you're just kind of treating it like a 150 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,280 bit of an experiment that can be kind of fun, bring a bit of joy 151 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:34,120 back to it. But like looking back on your 152 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,200 past journals, I mean, like, OK, well this worked for me 153 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,640 previously. Like maybe I could use that as a 154 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,880 way to re motivate myself, re excite myself and kind of 155 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,160 reignite the passion. A lot of raise now, that's what 156 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:45,520 was news. Now it's raise. 157 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,480 We're hitting the full spectrum of all of this. 158 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,680 I think it really just comes down to it though is like you're 159 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,400 retrying to ignite that spark. Like you said, I think we all 160 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,000 will go through this at some point with our journals. 161 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,040 Are planners or honestly anything new that you try? 162 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,440 Everything new is exciting, no doubt about it, but it is trying 163 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,280 to go back to like, well, what was it about that newness? 164 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:10,200 Is it just because it was something different, something 165 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,360 hooked you though? I mean, think about how many 166 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,320 different type of planners or methods or things you've 167 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,480 probably tried in your life. You know, maybe we just time box 168 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,240 it into the past eight years. It's kind of like what we talked 169 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,400 about in that previous episode, like if something doesn't work 170 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,240 out for you, we tend to not use it again, right? 171 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,960 So it's just this idea that like you've probably worked out a lot 172 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,560 of those kinks overtime. So even going back and looking 173 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,440 at that, you come up with new ideas to approach those problems 174 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,760 as you may have solved them before, but you have all of this 175 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,880 knowledge now that's like, oh, I would do that better this time, 176 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,080 you know? And that could even give 177 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,600 yourself a bit of a challenge too in a way to go and be like, 178 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,760 OK, let me try to solve this problem again, because we're 179 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,200 kind of just hitting on point to point to point because maybe 180 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,920 you've just solved so many of your planet problems. 181 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,400 You're just in such this like ideal state. 182 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,400 Dare I say it that you're actually getting kind of bored 183 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,560 of the ideal state? Yeah, Have you seen The Good 184 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,120 Place? I don't want to spoil The Good 185 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,920 Place for anybody, but when they're, you know, they go up to 186 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,400 the Good Place and people just like everything is boring 187 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,640 because everything is perfect kind of a thing. 188 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,760 So maybe it's a bit of that. It's like I have kind of problem 189 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,880 solved to the extent in my journal that now I've kind of 190 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,120 like not solved all my problems because I definitely got 191 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,760 problems. Oh, but in terms of my plan of 192 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,680 problems, maybe I just feel like I don't have any new problems to 193 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,120 solve. Because that's the thing about 194 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,159 people like we actually, we, we thrive on having problems to 195 00:08:33,159 --> 00:08:34,520 solve. You might be thinking about that 196 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:35,919 like Jessica, I don't want problems. 197 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:38,080 Why would you say this is a ridiculous notion? 198 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,720 But without problems and without being able to flex our 199 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,600 creativity in that way, we get bored. 200 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,000 So maybe I'm just, I'm bored because I don't have a new 201 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,040 problem to solve. I should take on a new problem. 202 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,720 I'm not going to take on any more problems. 203 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,440 I said I've got problems. Maybe I just need to think about 204 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,200 how my journal can help me solve those. 205 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,680 So I know I kind of asked you before about this because you're 206 00:08:55,680 --> 00:08:59,800 not really using anything else. So how are you going about your 207 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,520 day-to-day currently, just out of curiosity? 208 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,320 In a shambles as a scatterbrained mess. 209 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,640 You know, as I said before, I'm like, oh, have I really found a 210 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,600 solution to it? Obviously something must be 211 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,280 happening because like the house isn't falling apart around me. 212 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,720 I think that I think I know where this started. 213 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,200 Actually. I did a video for Notion and 214 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,760 then got super excited about the idea of bringing my whole life 215 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,800 into Notion, like setting up my PKM. 216 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,520 It's like my personal knowledge management system kind of a 217 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,000 thing and taking notes in there and organizing my content 218 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,360 schedule and all of this kind of thing and integrating stuff 219 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,760 together and got really excited about that. 220 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,760 So now my journals just like am IA joke to you. 221 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,120 Did you not want me anymore? I'm like, sorry, you don't 222 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:44,840 excite me like Notion does right now. 223 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,080 It's very much like the scumbag boyfriend names like me looking 224 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,320 at Notion like, oh, and my bullet journal's just like 225 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,280 bitch. I mean, I've been the same exact 226 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,080 spot as you with us. So we just got Microsoft Loop at 227 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:58,560 work and I've been looking at that. 228 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:00,800 It's essentially Notion. It's kind of like Confluence and 229 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,120 Notion mixed together, but it integrates into the full 230 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,960 Microsoft 365 suite. And I'm so excited about it. 231 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,800 And I literally this entire week I've been talking to my boss 232 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,240 about different things and I was like, I've been using that a lot 233 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,440 more than my bullet journal over the past few weeks. 234 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,280 She's like, wait a second, what do you mean? 235 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,800 And I was like, it's just so easy sometimes with those 236 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,240 shortcuts. I just type a forward slash and 237 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,880 I can add a table. I don't have to draw anything 238 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,680 out or make anything happen. I have tasks. 239 00:10:30,680 --> 00:10:34,360 I just forward slash task and it populates a task list for me. 240 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,360 I just fill it in and I send it to people and give it a date and 241 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,240 it's there. And it reminds me every single 242 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,240 day that I have things that are due. 243 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,120 It's doing so much for me. And I was like, Oh my gosh, this 244 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,480 could potentially be a problem. Now I will let you know like I 245 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,680 have found a solution for myself to it because I was, I would be 246 00:10:50,680 --> 00:10:52,360 real nervous. Just I'm not gonna lie to you. 247 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,920 I was like, I created like a double page spread and I used 248 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,920 1/3 of it. So I had this whole like 2/3 of 249 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:02,040 a page and a whole other page that I designed that I just 250 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,000 didn't use because that week was like the first week I was really 251 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,240 utilizing it and getting really excited about it. 252 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,280 And so I kind of took it back a few steps and was like, OK, we 253 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,000 have to figure out how these two things work together. 254 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,720 The excitement of Microsoft Loop is really important because my 255 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,040 team is fully digital. A lot of that work happens. 256 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,360 You and I have talked about it too, especially with like how 257 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,960 we're planning content and kind of making those things happen. 258 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:28,040 But there is value and we know go to writing things down or 259 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,040 even rewriting it, you know, so that could be something maybe to 260 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,400 take a look at like you don't give up on notion. 261 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,880 You're excited about it. It's potentially working for 262 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,320 you. But kind of do that self 263 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,360 reflection. Is it doing everything for you? 264 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,480 You know, maybe it is like this could be a turning point for 265 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,880 you. Like, I don't know, the planter 266 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,800 pals are just probably screaming like, no, just no, we need you. 267 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,640 Don't do dare abandoning a log planning. 268 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,160 Yeah, I quit Bullet Journal and took up this instead type of a 269 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:58,800 thing. But I think that's a good point. 270 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,360 It's like, you know, how can we get these systems to kind of 271 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,400 coexist? And maybe I'm not necessarily 272 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,600 uninspired or demotivated by my journal per SE, but it's like 273 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,720 something else has just got me more excited about it. 274 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,440 Like, you know, Notion right now is a very exciting space for me 275 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,600 because I'm, you know, planning a wedding and doing a lot of 276 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,240 wedding planning digitally, which I started making a wedding 277 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,640 journal and I'm I'm still enjoying my wedding journal, but 278 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,040 it does feel like just a rehash of everything that I'm already 279 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,280 doing digitally anyway. So it's like, is there a point 280 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:26,360 to this? And then I was like, well, 281 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:27,520 you're gonna make a video about it. 282 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,720 Like, am I literally just making a journal for a video? 283 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,440 I'm kind of trying to keep it as a memory keeper so it feels like 284 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,520 it has more of a point. But right now I'm feeling a 285 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,160 little like about it. We'll see how that goes. 286 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,720 It's it's interesting because that could be a lot of it. 287 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,000 You just said that like you have a wedding that's going on. 288 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,520 You're planning for that. Not saying that people don't 289 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,680 plan for weddings analog definitely do they have books 290 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:52,400 for and no, you can't think my wife had one when we got married 291 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,160 too, but so much happens online. You're emailing people, you're 292 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,720 kind of organizing those things. You can easily populate 293 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,840 everything now just, you know, seating charts if you want to. 294 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,680 I mean, how you can get ChatGPT probably to like put people in 295 00:13:06,680 --> 00:13:08,960 perfect places if you really needed them to, right? 296 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,720 Like so much has just made so much easier through technology. 297 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,400 But I think it's just finding that value in what you're 298 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,640 actually writing down and doing. Maybe for you just maybe it's 299 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,800 not even like writing it down. Maybe it is going to be 300 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,280 something like sketching, right? Maybe something more like visual 301 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,880 notes or something like that could be something and that is 302 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,360 like gives it purpose, but you're kind of just kind of 303 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,600 almost reflecting on what you're doing digitally versus trying to 304 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,560 capture both because then it's repetition and and that's not 305 00:13:35,560 --> 00:13:39,320 fun to do necessarily. Yeah, I think also like thinking 306 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,720 about like reasons behind a slump. 307 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,480 So why would somebody be in a slump? 308 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,920 And possibly one that might be related to my issue is not 309 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,120 liking the way my layouts look, because I know that that's a big 310 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,360 one. If I don't like the way my 311 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,680 layouts look, I'm not inclined to use them and I just don't 312 00:13:55,680 --> 00:13:56,960 want to get any can use them at all. 313 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,800 And I'm thinking that that's kind of what my April setup has 314 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,440 become. So maybe at the start of April 315 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,440 when I was tentatively thinking like, oh, maybe this isn't 316 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,800 really like the vibe. Maybe the aesthetic isn't on 317 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,240 fleek. I know we don't use on fleek 318 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:11,200 anymore. I don't care. 319 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,480 I'm old. Maybe I should have just kind of 320 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,240 evaluated that in the moment and possibly redone my April. 321 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,800 I've never actually redone a setup though before. 322 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,920 I usually just like grip my teeth and bear it. 323 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,440 Is that it? I don't know if it's grit or 324 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:24,720 grin. Do I grin my teeth? 325 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,400 Do I grit them? I grip my teeth. 326 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,120 Yeah, maybe I should have just like not gripped my teeth and 327 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,200 bear it like I usually do and just remade the layouts possibly 328 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,480 to something that looked a little bit more. 329 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,520 I'm not gonna say appealing because the layouts aren't 330 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,360 necessarily ugly. I just don't think that they 331 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,440 like have offered a lot of inspiration to use them, you 332 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,160 know? I'm the type of person honestly 333 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,160 just I would never like redo a whole entire spread because I 334 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,320 didn't like the way that it looked. 335 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,120 I am the grit your teeth and just deal with it. 336 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,120 And you're gonna look at that every day and you're gonna know 337 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,960 that you're never gonna do do that again because you hate it 338 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,680 so incredibly much. There's been so many times where 339 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,280 that's happened where I'm just like, I hate this whole thing, 340 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,080 but I'm gonna use it anyway because I have to. 341 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,960 It's like the sunk cost fallacy. It's like, no, I took the time, 342 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,800 effort and energy to set this up and I'm gosh Dang well gonna use 343 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,800 it. Yeah, and I really do think it's 344 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:15,960 it. I'm like, I don't know why this 345 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,480 whole like punishment thing is like a popular thing. 346 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,400 I'm like, punish yourself by using it. 347 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,800 Punish yourself by not using your bullet journal. 348 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,080 So you remember how much you love your bullet journal. 349 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,080 But I just think some sometimes we react to those things a lot 350 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:30,920 better, you know? I mean, if it's not causing you 351 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,680 mental or physical harm, then yeah, you let it ride. 352 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,760 Like, if it's really weighing on you and you can't sleep and like 353 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,680 you hate every second of your day, by all means RIP that piece 354 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,880 of paper out. I don't not usually condone 355 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,280 that, but like your mental health is more important than 356 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,480 that piece of paper. But I think for the most part 357 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,960 though, like we can find ways to make it work. 358 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,640 And if not, you just don't do it. 359 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,480 Or I've done this too. Like sometimes if I'm really not 360 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,520 loving it, like I'll just grab one of those desk pads from 361 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,440 Archer and Olive and just use that and be like, I'm just daily 362 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,880 logging. There's no stamps, there's no 363 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,520 markers, there's no nothing. And just do that because I'm 364 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,240 like, you are going to do what I want you to do and nothing else. 365 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,200 And I'm happy about it. Yeah, look at you. 366 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:17,200 You have you have a pre made To Do List that is That is perfect. 367 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,880 It's so hideous. It has columns that say do call 368 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,520 an e-mail and anytime I use it, because I just need to get 369 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,960 things out of my head, I just cross out colon cross e-mail and 370 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,360 do do so It's a do do do. I think lots of stuff to do. 371 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,080 This has lasted me quite a while because there are many pages, 372 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,840 but anytime I'm just like the journal's not inspiring me. 373 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,600 I just whip this this bad boy out, use this sad. 374 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:47,200 It's so limp sad look and see creature To Do List, but at 375 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,480 least at work. I mean my biggest thing, like 376 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:50,920 what kind of penny are you using on that? 377 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,520 Because we know we can't do anything fancy on those types of 378 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,680 notepads. Absolutely not. 379 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,680 It is a regular ballpoint type pen, but it's that thing, right? 380 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,560 If we're trying to plan like with the purpose of planning and 381 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,720 go back to that, I like to start with purpose first. 382 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,760 It just helps me kind of align my thinking. 383 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,960 But purpose first, getting the thoughts out of your head onto 384 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,960 paper so that you can sort through them. 385 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,720 Do the stuff you need to prioritize first. 386 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,079 Maybe if your journal isn't doing that for you right now, 387 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:21,160 use something else. So in pops the sad To Do List, 388 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,319 the sad floppy To Do List, but it's still it fulfills the 389 00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:27,640 function, you know? Sometimes you just have to kind 390 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,520 of turn your brain off and that could be another thing too, just 391 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,000 because I know that you do like to think about things and solve 392 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,880 those problems and do that. That could also be burning you 393 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,200 out as well Because like you said, if you are trying to think 394 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,920 about your wedding planner and what that looks like as long 395 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:43,800 along with what needs to go inside of that, like that's 396 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,560 double duty right there. Like it has to look great 397 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,360 because it needs to look great for me to use it, but also it 398 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:51,920 needs to be functional. Hold all that information. 399 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,000 I think it's the same thing. Like sometimes you just almost 400 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,600 put yourself on autopilot and like, that floppy little sea 401 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,360 creature I think is fulfilling a need right now until you're just 402 00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:03,120 like, yeah, I need something more than this. 403 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,320 OK, let's go back to the bullet journal because I can create 404 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,600 what I need out of that. Yeah, I think that that's the 405 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,200 thing like even though I'm kind of slumping with my bullet 406 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,240 journal right now, which is very much like a function first kind 407 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,880 of space function first, but must be pretty otherwise you 408 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,720 won't use it and then the function won't be fulfilled, 409 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,720 that kind of a thing. Other the other journals that I 410 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,160 have at the moment though that are going well are things like 411 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,440 my reading journal, because that one isn't so much about 412 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,960 function, it's about fun. And I'm really enjoying that. 413 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,520 I'm enjoying being creative in there and writing out my little 414 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,640 blurbs about the books I'm reading and such, which 415 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,360 previously I haven't really enjoyed doing so much. 416 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,320 But this year I made it more collagey. 417 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,680 So it's just it feels kind of new and exciting and each of the 418 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,360 little boxes that I do for any piece of media a little bit 419 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,880 different to each other. So maybe I just need to bring 420 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,680 some of that kind of novelty into my journal so it doesn't 421 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,000 feel as stale, so I can still fulfill the purpose but make it 422 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,680 feel more fun. Because you've kind of moved 423 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,720 away from a lot of the more decorative work of yesteryear, 424 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,200 right? Yeah, I don't do if I'm gonna do 425 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,200 decoration. I typically don't do drawing 426 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,800 heavy decoration because it was just starting to take up more 427 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,760 time, effort and energy than it was really worse. 428 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,560 Like I didn't mind doing it, but it wasn't really where my kind 429 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,920 of passion lied, I suppose with my bullet journal. 430 00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:14,960 In my bullet journal, it was more exciting to think about 431 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,760 like different structures of layouts and how you could kind 432 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,080 of organize information. I'm like literally talking about 433 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:21,160 this. I'm getting very excited about 434 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,320 my bullet journal. But like how you can organize 435 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,960 information in a way that meant that it clicked better with your 436 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,840 brain and thus you could get more done. 437 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,040 So it's like, oh, hey, if we think about a, you know, habit 438 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,560 tracker, for instance, you know, this month I tried many calendar 439 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,880 habit trackers and I fell off on that and it didn't work. 440 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,600 So next month I'm going to try a vertical style habit tracker 441 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,000 where everything's just kind of like color for habits and rows 442 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,720 for the days and see how that works. 443 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,320 That kind of trial and error process and kind of, you know, 444 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:50,880 treating it more like a science experiment. 445 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,560 That is what my everyday journal is about, that kind of problem 446 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,000 solving aspect, which I quite like. 447 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,000 And now I'm excited about it just a little bit more again. 448 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,120 I mean, that's my favorite part. That's why I do something 449 00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:02,640 different every single week because it keeps being excited 450 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,360 about using different stationary things inside of it. 451 00:20:05,360 --> 00:20:07,920 And definitely, you know, a number of years ago when I was 452 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,280 really experimenting and trying new things that I used to. 453 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,320 I don't do it anymore, but I used to kind of rate the success 454 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,160 of my bullet journal by the popularity of it on Instagram. 455 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,880 Like if I created like a really cool layout with different type 456 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,400 of trackers and things on it and it got a lot of attention, I'd 457 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,520 be like, oh, this is a good spread. 458 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,680 I mean, now I know that's a bit different. 459 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,480 I know it's not exactly can be correlated to that because also 460 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,400 Instagram is not fantastic right now for any type of engagement 461 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,200 really except for the ones that we're creating for ourselves. 462 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,760 But just being able to use it and be happy about it and really 463 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,640 getting to that end of the week, you'd be like, yeah, I 464 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,520 accomplished something. Whether or not you even need it 465 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,880 right then, you know, maybe there are opportunities for you 466 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,400 to bring little pieces of what's happening to create that 467 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,440 excitement. You know, maybe, yes, you have 468 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,920 your entire wedding journal, but maybe there's a really cool 469 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,040 thing you can just add into it, like copy and paste little 470 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,560 components to be like, oh, this is really exciting because I get 471 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,080 to explore here while simultaneously, you know, being 472 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,000 functional and productive about the day-to-day things that I'm 473 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,400 doing too. That could be an option. 474 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,480 I know that this has been a problem for other people and 475 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,200 maybe that's also part of my issue, but this idea of like, if 476 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,360 I can't do it perfectly, then it shouldn't even do it type of a 477 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:21,240 thing. And recently because I have been 478 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,240 getting really into the idea of printed headers. 479 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,280 So just like typing it up on Microsoft Office or something 480 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,080 and then printing it off, sticking it in because it's 481 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,960 printed on sticker paper has been so great for being able to 482 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,720 use different styles of lettering that I just don't want 483 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,840 to put the time, effort, energy into doing myself. 484 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,560 So it's been very nice for that. But one of the issues that I 485 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,440 found is that I went and purchased more of the sticker 486 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,200 paper that I had gotten previously, but they changed 487 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,920 something about it and now the new sticker paper is Smudge 488 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,320 City. It's. 489 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,480 So bad, like the transfer that you get from one page to 490 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,800 another, like the pages don't even have to like really rub up 491 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,320 against each other is just by sandwiching them. 492 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,160 It's like, oh look, ghost lettering. 493 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,800 It's like, it's like the worst version of ghosting because it's 494 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,520 not from the other side of the page, it's on your page mark. 495 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,840 Yeah, it's on the opposite side. Is it inkjet or is it a laser 496 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,800 printer? It's an inkjet printer, and 497 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,320 while the paper that I used to get was inkjet safe, I guess 498 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,600 they've changed something about it and now it's inkjet not so 499 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,760 safe. What is up with people changing 500 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,600 their paper types on us and not telling us? 501 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:28,240 I know it's just rude that that will get me into a slump so damn 502 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,280 quickly, as if the paper in my journal has changed from what I 503 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,680 have previously known. I'm just like, why you do this? 504 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,200 I had my perfect like fleet of pens that I like to use in this 505 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,760 notebook and now I can't use them because they all smudge. 506 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,560 Well, it's just something that when you build it into your 507 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,800 repertoire and you build a lot of things around it, especially 508 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,200 like you're saying, I'm printing out headers and using them often 509 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,160 and doing all of that, when all of a sudden it doesn't work for 510 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,760 you, It does throw a wrench into your flow and just kind of like, 511 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,080 this isn't what I want. It's just everything starts 512 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,800 stacking on top of each other. Like your anger is just there. 513 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,120 You're like, well, my paper isn't doing what it used to do. 514 00:23:02,120 --> 00:23:04,040 I don't know why I can't use these pens now. 515 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,960 I'm trying to stick in these headers with this paper I've 516 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,600 used before. And now you're transferring the 517 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,400 paper. Now it's fugly and smugly and 518 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,800 nasty over here. I don't want you turn the, you 519 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,880 know, it just kind of builds on itself. 520 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,760 And I think that's another reason, too. 521 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,440 Sometimes, like, you just got to step back. 522 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,160 You got to say, OK, what pens do work? 523 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,360 I know that these are trusted in here. 524 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,560 Don't go inks, don't go any of these other things. 525 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,600 I mean, for the past few weeks in my bullet journal, I've been 526 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,080 using my fountain pens and they have been ghost bleeding. 527 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,280 I don't know the right word. Like I can see it and it's not 528 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,000 just a little bit like it's like I don't know and I'm not happy 529 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,960 about it. And so I was like, OK, Mark, 530 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,240 well, you love using fountain pens like we know this, but this 531 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,000 past few weeks, like something's up here. 532 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,960 It's just not the same norm that it had been before. 533 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,200 And I grabbed just a regular gel pen, one of my favorites, those 534 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,880 signals DX's. And I was like, remember, 535 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,000 remember the good old days like you just wrote with this really 536 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,320 nice five point gel pen and you didn't have to worry about any 537 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,480 of that. Oh, look how thin the lines are. 538 00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:09,720 And it was almost just like, OK, well, I've invested a lot inside 539 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,200 of fountain pens to use them, but it just wasn't making me 540 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,760 happy at that point. Honestly, it wasn't making me 541 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,680 happy at all, especially with the week to week. 542 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,320 And I'd go to set up the next week and then now I can't use 543 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,680 that page. And so it's just like, oh, 544 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,600 you're not making me happy right now. 545 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,400 So I kind of what I was saying before, like I just say, OK, go 546 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,240 back to the basics, like start over basically and then build 547 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,240 upon that. Maybe you'll learn something 548 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,640 new. Maybe you'll find a new piece of 549 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,760 excitement around doing that, you know, getting back to like 1 550 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,520 mild liner and one pen and kind of creating with that as a 551 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,920 challenge within itself. Mild liner, ridiculous. 552 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,160 I would never. OK, maybe when I first started I 553 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,760 was very excited about mild liners. 554 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,440 But I think that's a good point though, like oftentimes the 555 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,480 materials we use in our journal, you know, smudge ass stick of 556 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,160 paper aside kind of a thing, but the pen that you like to write 557 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,400 with and the things that you like to decorate with and all of 558 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,760 that kind of stuff. Over time, as our journaling 559 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,760 practice evolves, we can, you know, change the things that 560 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,800 we're using and that means we have like different preferences 561 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,760 and stuff like this. So maybe it is if you're finding 562 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,800 yourself in like a bit of a slump with your journal. 563 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,320 Can I just go back to things that I know wholeheartedly I 564 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,880 enjoy using to kind of bring that enthusiasm and re motivate 565 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,440 myself to get back into it? So what old is new, You know, 566 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,520 it's just that idea like every time that I do AD stash, every 567 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,320 time that I reorganize my pens, I'm always like, oh, I remember 568 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,320 using this one. This was really fun. 569 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,760 Or if I actually just started to do more swatches of a lot of my 570 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,600 stationary too in a different journal and I was like, oh, this 571 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,320 is really fun and I'm using them again. 572 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,280 And I was like, wait, I haven't used color pencil in a while. 573 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,240 And it's just refinding those things. 574 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,960 Even though it's all out for me. I have it out for a purpose, but 575 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,120 it's not serving a purpose because I don't touch it. 576 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,800 So it's sometimes just like re engaging with that or refinding 577 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,560 your excitement about it too is you know, that's enough 578 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,320 sometimes just to give you a little a little spark. 579 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,920 Yeah. I think another thing that it 580 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,360 can also kind of be helpful is giving yourself like a very kind 581 00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:09,920 of boxed challenge is what I'm going to call it. 582 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,960 It's like got very fixed kind of parameters that you can use. 583 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,560 Like, OK, I'm going to set up my weekly this week, but I'm only 584 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,560 allowed to use one pin. Or I'm going to set up my 585 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,400 journal this week, but I'm only allowed to use like these two 586 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,160 colors. Like how am I going to go about 587 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,120 that? That was something I did quite a 588 00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:25,920 while ago now. I did it as a little video 589 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,280 series on the channel. We had a different kind of 590 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,320 challenge each week for the weekly setup. 591 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,320 I remember one of them and the one that got like the most likes 592 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,040 on Instagram was when I used colors I hated. 593 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,920 I was like, why are you liking this? 594 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,560 These colors are hideous. Stop liking this picture. 595 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,640 I was just saying, I mean, you could definitely engage your 596 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,000 community for sure. We know that they love to give 597 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,600 you ideas. I think letting them challenge 598 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,720 you too. Years ago I did one time I was 599 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,920 like, all right, you all get to pick the stationery. 600 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,200 And I was like, OK, here's the three pens, and I'd have them 601 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,640 vote on the three pens and be like, OK, here's the three 602 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,120 sticker sets that we have. Which one are we using? 603 00:27:00,360 --> 00:27:03,120 And just that little like, kind of collage of things together is 604 00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:05,760 super helpful. I'm going to work on a video 605 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,920 coming up where I let ChatGPT design my weekly page for me. 606 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,000 I know other people have probably done that as well. 607 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,600 Think you might have done a video on that too. 608 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,400 But that was even exciting because I was like, I would 609 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,720 never do this type of stuff inside of here. 610 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,840 And it was also me then like interpreting what it was saying 611 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,360 and thinking about how would I do that in my style though? 612 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:27,280 So it's what we were talking about before. 613 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,480 You're like giving yourselves these new challenges to try to 614 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,720 go into to get you excited about the materials because you know 615 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,200 that the foundation of it is already there. 616 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,360 That works, but it's how do you kind of find the excitement 617 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:43,000 again to get in there? Yeah, I think another factor 618 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,320 that goes into slumps a lot of the time for people is just 619 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,200 things feeling like too overwhelming, almost just like, 620 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,280 OK, yeah, I've like set all these things up because I got 621 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,120 really excited about setting up my journal. 622 00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:55,320 And now I have a tracker for this and a page for that and a 623 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,960 log over here and whatever else. And then when it comes to 624 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,880 actually using it, it's like, cool, now I'm overwhelmed and I 625 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,000 don't want to do any of this, so I'm just going to neglect my 626 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,160 journal and make that a never me problem type of a thing. 627 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,840 Thankfully, this time around that's not what my personal 628 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,480 slump is about. But like, if that is part of the 629 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,040 reason somebody else is in a slump, simplifying can be a 630 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,400 really great way to get back into your notebooks. 631 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,680 Yeah, I think that's just a really kind of the golden rule 632 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,280 there is like you're doing too much, just pull it back. 633 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,600 You know that it is. I think all of us have those 634 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,320 moments and deep down we know that it's a lot and we need to 635 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,040 like not go so crazy with it. It's the hardest part is to say 636 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,440 pull back, especially when you've been doing it for so 637 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,280 long. Especially like for us, like I 638 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,680 feel like we definitely have a style. 639 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,080 So when people see our photos or our videos, they kind of know 640 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,520 that it's us. So sometimes it's like if you go 641 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,000 in a totally different direction, it's like, well, 642 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,600 wait, who? Who is this? 643 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,520 This doesn't, I don't know who this is. 644 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,600 Like you said that one time I used to change my thumbnails on 645 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,120 YouTube a lot and I was like, this video isn't doing great. 646 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,800 And you're like, Mark, for the past 50 videos, you use this one 647 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,960 thumbnail style and then you changed it. 648 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,320 People probably don't know that it's your video by that. 649 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,600 And I think I was like, oh, OK, it's like, well, this worked. 650 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,760 But I was really excited to try something different though. 651 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,320 Like I'm tired of doing the same thing all the time. 652 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,280 And it's just that's just a really hard thing to be like, 653 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,200 OK, I'm going to intend change something. 654 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,280 Let me go ahead and grab on to the rails. 655 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,360 Because people might in some cases, depending on the content, 656 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,640 probably more than like what it looks like might kind of go a 657 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,400 little hard on you to be like, this isn't what I came here for. 658 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,680 So like, get back to doing your one trick Little Pony. 659 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,600 Literally that I've been feeling kind of the same about my 660 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,640 content recently, especially when it comes to like monthly 661 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,320 plan with me videos type of a thing. 662 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,480 I think mainly this time around, because I just have more of them 663 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,040 because I'm doing a monthly setup in my journal, a monthly 664 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,800 setup in the reading journal. And at least for the first half 665 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,520 of the year, we've been doing a monthly set up in the giveaway 666 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,280 journal, which was given away back in like November last year 667 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,880 is gone. It's it's got a new home now. 668 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,240 But because it's like, OK, cool, look, hey, another one and 669 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,320 here's a monthly log and here's a habit tracker. 670 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,600 And I'm just like, gosh, this is boring. 671 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,200 I mean, people watch it. So obviously it's not boring for 672 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,760 them. But me as the creator, I'm just 673 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,640 like, oh look, it's you again. We've seen that through a lot. 674 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,920 I was thinking about last year or the year before when Amanda, 675 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,680 Rach Lee, you could tell that she was kind of like getting 676 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,880 tired and wanting to kind of grow outside of bullet 677 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,800 journaling. This might be before the doodle 678 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,120 planners though, because now I feel like she has to be locked 679 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,880 in like it's bread and butter. That's money S like she can't 680 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,400 all of a sudden stop journaling now and she's creating it. 681 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,240 I think we see that a lot in other Youtubers and other niches 682 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,320 and genres too, where people just produce, produce, produce, 683 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,920 produce and they're just like, I need a break. 684 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,680 Like I'm doing 2 to 3 videos a week and I've done that for the 685 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,840 past five years. I'm going to post once a week or 686 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,880 once a month or hopefully it never happens, but just retire 687 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,040 from it all together. I mean, I feel like you got to 688 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,960 make a crap load of money to be able to retire from YouTube. 689 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,040 But you know, the idea though, is this like I'm not going to 690 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,440 come back to this because I've just done it so much. 691 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,680 I need change in my life. And so I feel like a lot of the 692 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,880 times that's the decision too, that you have to like, really 693 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,880 kind of live with. But I think you can find 694 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,440 different ways to do it. Like Amanda, I think is a really 695 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,880 good example of that where she was just doing the same thing 696 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,240 all the time. She's found different ways to 697 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,160 get herself excited about it again and put it in a space 698 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,920 where she feels good and comfortable about it. 699 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,760 Like, I feel like that's a healthy place to be, especially 700 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,080 when you're feeling overwhelmed, kind of burned out. 701 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,600 I think that's also just like an interesting conversation. 702 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,440 Point is, when do you know like it's time to retire from not 703 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,800 necessarily your line of work, but maybe from like your, the 704 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,280 planner you're using, like how, how do you know spiritually, 705 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,280 emotionally, physically that it's time for you to step away 706 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,680 and do something else? I don't think I'm there with 707 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,320 bullet journaling. Fear not, planner pals, but 708 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,600 there might come a time where I'm like, you know what bullet 709 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,560 journaling has like run its course for me. 710 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,480 I can't at this stage see that date. 711 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,560 Like I don't know when that would happen because I know it 712 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,280 works for me. Even though I'm in a slump right 713 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,840 now, I know I will work my way this for eight years or whatnot. 714 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,880 We've we've had moments like this before, but there might 715 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,840 come a time where it doesn't work anymore. 716 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,240 How do we identify that? I'm curious. 717 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,160 I've seen it happen in. This community a lot where 718 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,080 people will start maybe in school or college and then they 719 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,080 graduate and they go into the workforce and then they just 720 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,400 don't keep a journal anymore because different tools maybe or 721 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,280 really didn't kind of work out for them. 722 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,360 I feel like we see that happen a good amount and it's just it's 723 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,880 sad because we've gotten to know them over amount of time. 724 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,600 But the other cool thing though too, not to like pivot in the 725 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,080 opposite direction, but I've been getting a lot of comments 726 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,200 on videos recently where I've been talking about fountain pens 727 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,560 or I've been talking about bullet journaling or things like 728 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,080 that, where people have said, I used to do this 5-6 years ago 729 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,200 when I stopped. Maybe it's time for me to pick 730 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,600 it back up. Like my life, my situation is 731 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,440 kind of calling for it. I think it's absolutely OK and 732 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,920 very valid to just know right now in my time in life, I don't 733 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,080 need that. You know, like maybe if I had a 734 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,560 different job or did something a bit different where, you know, I 735 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,840 wasn't writing down notes all the time or tasks for myself, 736 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,400 you know, if I didn't need to write down a ton of stuff, I 737 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,440 feel like I don't know that I would necessarily use it. 738 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,720 Like my job requires it. And I know that that works for 739 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,880 me, so that's why I use it. But I feel like if there was 740 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,280 ever a change where like it just didn't fit my need anymore, then 741 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,000 I would just have to be like, all right, like pause on this 742 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,400 for right now. We need to find something 743 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,040 different. No, I don't know. 744 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,040 I'm trying to think about like a good example for work, like what 745 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,840 would take me away from using my bullet journal, even though 746 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,600 Microsoft Loop is doing that. But that's just because it's 747 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,440 new. But it's just one of those 748 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,160 things where you're just like, yeah, not it's not working for 749 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,320 me. I don't know. 750 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,960 It would be a hard decision, but I feel like you would. 751 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,920 You would keep doing what you've been doing. 752 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,400 And I feel like you would just realize that you're using it 753 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,800 less and less and you're feeling forced to use it. 754 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,960 And then eventually your mind would just be like, this isn't 755 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,520 it? Like, it's OK, Let it. 756 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:01,640 Let it go. Let it go. 757 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,560 Goodbye. Yeah. 758 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,360 If you love. Something set it free kind of 759 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,920 thing. I love that idea of like, you 760 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,679 know, even if you do end up letting it go, whether it be 761 00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:10,719 like, you know, bull journaling or any other kind of planning 762 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,239 system or whatnot, that doesn't mean you can't come back. 763 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,960 Like you kind of mentioned this idea of people saying, oh, yeah, 764 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,760 I used to do this five years ago or whatnot. 765 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,639 Now I'm thinking like maybe I'll come back to a type of a thing 766 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,960 because we do go through seasons of life where particular like 767 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,760 planners or styles of planning or whatnot are going to gel with 768 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,000 us more. I think that the nice part about 769 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,239 bullet journaling for me in particular is that because it is 770 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,320 effectively a DIY system, you know, you, you draw up your own 771 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,840 layouts. I was actually thinking about it 772 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,159 the other day. It's like, I feel like it's the 773 00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:41,120 most masochistic of the planning systems because you do have to 774 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,960 do everything yourself. Like, wow, I could just use a 775 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,600 pre printed planner that has all of these pre printed structures 776 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,760 for me, but then I would be locked into that system and that 777 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,600 doesn't gel with me as a person. But anyway, it's like because I 778 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,199 have gone through life changes and stuff, but I was using a 779 00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:59,960 system that is so because it's DIY, it meant it could change 780 00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:01,760 with me. Maybe I'm just getting to a 781 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,320 point where it's like even though maybe my life situation 782 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,080 hasn't super changed outside of the fact that I'm like, you 783 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,760 know, planning a wedding or whatnot, that too shall pass 784 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,320 come later this year, that'll all be over. 785 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,600 But maybe there are just other systems that would work better 786 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:21,080 for me right this second, even though things like, you know, 787 00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:24,280 comparing right now to last year where the bullet journal was 788 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,440 just totally fine. Things aren't that different on 789 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,840 the surface. But maybe it's just like me and 790 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,600 my needs are a little bit different. 791 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,040 Do you know what those needs are? 792 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,440 Or should we ask the planner pals for potential ideas on 793 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,760 things that maybe work better for them? 794 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,760 Yeah, no, I I'm not. Too sure, because like right now 795 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,040 it's very like seeing the forest through the trees type of a 796 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,320 thing. Like I'm just so stuck in the 797 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,640 thick of it that I'm like, I don't know what to do here. 798 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,760 And it's probably one of those things things like I've made 799 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,400 enough videos on giving advice about being in a slump and 800 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,840 routinizing your journal and such. 801 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,280 It's going to be Jessica, take your own advice. 802 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,840 But I would love to know if you guys have any suggestions for 803 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,640 like, you know, people who are in a plan of slump or you know, 804 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,000 you're not feeling inspired by your planning system. 805 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,440 What kind of recommendations would you give them to get out 806 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,680 of it yet re motivated, re inspired to use your journal? 807 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,240 Let us know in the comments or you can e-mail us at 808 00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:17,840 plannerofhousepodcast@gmail.com or hit us up on Instagram at 809 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,240 Planner of House Podcast. I say it over and over again. 810 00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:22,640 But I feel like the comments section is going to be this 811 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,560 beautiful resource for all of us and you know, pin that be like 812 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,680 next time I'm feeling like I'm in a slump, I'm going to the 813 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,920 comments section of that video because we know the planner pals 814 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,480 are gonna pull through 100% on this one. 815 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,920 Yeah, your advice is always very. 816 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,280 Much appreciated because like I said, I'm just I'm not feeling 817 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,360 it right now. I know it will pass but I would 818 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,880 like it to pass as quickly as possible because I know it. 819 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,720 I know my journal can be helpful for me. 820 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,080 I just need to feel the push to get in and use it. 821 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,840 Well, we'll come back to this. Topic in a future episode 822 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,920 because we have to know how you got out of it was it the advice 823 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,920 of the planter pals did you just whip yourself back out of it 824 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,200 because you knew that it was going to be there we all Phase I 825 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,600 think that's the big thing we all phase in and out of things 826 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,840 and we will figure it out but you're going to I'm like you 827 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,960 have to hit rock bottom to be able to come back out but I feel 828 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,080 like you're already there though so like positivity is definitely 829 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,120 in the future yeah I'm sure that the. 830 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,880 Next episode that follows up on this is going to be a lot more 831 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,520 like cheerful. It's supposed to me just being 832 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,800 down Buzz Betty be like I hate my journal. 833 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,120 It doesn't work for me anymore. Everything is awful. 834 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,120 I'm just going to get rid of all of my notebooks. 835 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,520 I'm not going to get rid of my notebooks. 836 00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:30,000 This is this is going nowhere. You know, I don't think we have 837 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,520 to worry at. All about this episode being a 838 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:33,920 little bit more of the somber side. 839 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,080 I think the what I know the planter pilots love about what 840 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,120 we talk about is that this is real life. 841 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,800 You know, we are while we are, you know, influencers online or, 842 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,440 you know, creators online. And we seem to always have those 843 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,640 answers, like we are people too that come across these same 844 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,840 problems. And I think sharing that also 845 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,920 lets other people know. And that's why when we say like, 846 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,160 share your thoughts in the comments too, it's because 847 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,280 everyone at some point is going to come across this. 848 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,680 You likely have. So definitely let us know what's 849 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,200 brought you out of it. So it'll be a really good time. 850 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,080 All right, planner pals. Well, thank you so much for 851 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,680 hanging out with us today. Can't wait to check out those 852 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,880 comments and we will talk to you next time. 853 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:09,440 See you.