Hello and welcome to the Planner Pals Podcast, a podcast hosted
by two true planner pals. My name is Mark and I go by Mark
Your pages. And I'm Jess or Jessie Curran,
and today we're talking about something that has been like a
big struggle for me previously. And I think I'm finally getting
to a point where I've got a system that works and that is
storage solutions for our stationary supplies.
If you're anything like Mark and I, then you probably have quite
an extensive collection, and figuring out how to store it in
the best way possible is certainly like another hobby
unto itself, I swear. It's one of my favorite things.
I if you can see my background looks different just now.
I'm very excited. I just moved my office from the
basement up to our second floor and literally stationary storage
has been the only thing that I've been thinking about for the
past several weeks as I've been trying to figure out how to fit
all of the same crap into a smaller space but still make it
look nice. So this this episode could not
be more on time for me. Yeah, no, I have very much
appreciated seeing all of your Instagram stories and like
having the little poles. Like would we do white hooks
with black background or black hooks on a white background?
I'm just like, there is only one correct solution here.
What are you talking about? There's so many different ways
to go about it and some brand new ways that I found out too,
Especially like behind me with my fountain pens over there.
I was like, I don't want to just keep them in a book, so let's
make them into functional art. So like exploring and finding
new options and new ways to also store your stationary.
Because I am very much along the lines of like, I have to see it
to know that I have it. I know others of you and the
Planet Power community are exactly the same way.
And then there's the total opposite side, which is I don't
want to see it. I know I have it, but I do not
want to see it out. So today's episode, it's gonna
be a lot of fun. Oh, no, we're definitely gonna
be touching on the different types of organizers because I am
all about that right now. I swear that that's the only
thing I've been watching on YouTube over the past.
Like, I don't know, two weeks or something.
I'm down that rabbit hole. But of course, thank you to
everybody who left a comment on our previous episode talking
about the Go Wild presenters and the different information they
gave us. You know, obviously not
everybody gets to go to Go Wild, so it was really exciting
getting to give you guys that behind the scenes.
I especially loved people who are kind of coming in from the
Vlog Brothers kind of community saying, Oh my gosh, like it's
just crazy to me that people don't know who John Green is and
like how long I've been watching him and such.
So it's always kind of nice to see when those kind of
communities collide in such a positive way.
The appreciation, you know, one of the big reasons we did that
obviously is that we wanted anyone who isn't able to go to
go wild to get some of those little tidbits.
So hopefully everyone got a little bit out of that.
But let's go ahead and kick it to the topic today, Jess, and
talk about this storage solution, fun and excitement
because honestly, there are so many different ways that we can
go down this. Do we want to start with a
certain type of stationary? Because I feel like every
stationary tool needs a special stationary storage option.
Yeah, I think that if you're looking to, you know, actually
organize your space and such, it is very important to first
consider what you actually have. Because like you said, different
supplies are going to. They just have different needs,
right? They're all special little
snowflakes. They have their own needs and
systems. So for instance, it's like you
don't necessarily want to throw a bunch of ink bottles into a
drawer to have them rattle around and crash into each other
and probably make a mess, whereas keeping, you know, flat
ephemera in a drawer that isn't really gonna slip and slide
around. That's totally fine.
In terms of the stuff that I need to store, thankfully, I
don't really have the ink problem.
But I do seem to have pretty much everything else I've got,
you know, the stickers and the sticker books and the papers and
the washes and the PT tapes. And then just like the
notebooks, because my my notebook collection is quite
large and that takes up a decent chunk of my store.
Yeah. And there's a lot of different
ways to go about this. I mean, I'll just share a little
bit of how I just went through this because bringing everything
upstairs from a basement that essentially was an unlimited
space, but it was as much space as I wanted to use.
And then now coming inside of this room, it's a lot more small
and there's different ways to go about it.
But what I found helpful, well, I did this in two parts.
So it's going to be like good advice, but slash bad advice
because especially with the notebooks, I guess let's start
there because we both have an addiction.
We both have a problem. Our collections are like right
there next to each other. It's not a competition.
It's, it's actually quite sad actually how many we have now.
But what I found for myself is I was like, OK, I want to have my
notebooks on a shelf. Yes.
But then it comes down to how do I want to organize them?
So I broke them down into size, so A5 square B5.
And then I have a specialty shelf, but I have a lot of a
fives and I wasn't able to bring all of them upstairs with me.
So the first thing I did, but first I take everything off of
the shelf. I am a, let me just put this
out. I am a chaos to cleanliness type
person. So when I go about cleaning, I
take everything out of a shelf, out of a drawer, wherever they
are and I just sit in the chaos and then I basically organize
around me. And are you the same type of
person there, Jess? Are you like a little bit more
methodical about your organization?
I think that for me, anytime that I do an organising project,
I try to go by category so I don't have everything out all at
the same time. So if I'm getting things off the
shelf and out of drawers and all of that, I try to stick to just
like one type of supply. So I don't end up with literally
every single item I own in and amongst my space.
Because in terms of floral estate in my office, it is a
little bit limited because, you know, desk shelves, drawers, all
of that kind of thing. And I still want to be able to
get in and out without tripping over my stuff and either
breaking me or my supply. I don't know which one would
worry me more. I want to make sure everything
stays safe. You're.
Probably a little bit more durable.
So I would say protect the stationary.
You will heal. Yeah, exactly.
It's like we can heal broken bones, but a ripped notebook
cover? No, that's just too sad.
It's too done. But yeah, a big part of mine was
really getting everything off of the shelves.
I did organize it by the type because I did realize that I was
going to organize by size. But then I opened up every
single box and I kind of did the doesn't bring you joy method
essentially. And I was like, you know, I
opened it up and I was like, oh, it was a trip down memory lane.
I was pulling out like OG Arch and all of notebooks, like the
very first Halloween collection. I those still make me very
excited. I have some of the old like the
double key one, the snake the and then what was the other one
that every Oh, the bee, like everybody wanted that bee for so
long and I'm like going through them.
I was like, these are collectors items.
But once I went ahead and sorted them basically into through
piles, I had sorted them into absolutely must have on my shelf
and with me at all times. I had kind of this maybe
section, which was like, I like it, but I don't know if I run
out of space, I'm OK with storing it.
And then I also, for the first time in a long time, created a
giveaway slash sell pile. And I that's maybe a whole other
topic, but eventually going to go down there, But ones that I
just really know after seven years of bullet journaling that
I'm, I'm just not going to use. Like the design wasn't quite it.
It's a leftover from like the arch and olive design team or
something that another brand sent me.
And I, I did create a pile. I was very proud of myself.
It was not as large as the keep or the babies, but I definitely
made the pile. And that was just helpful for
me, though, to really be able to start the process of organizing
the notebooks, because what came next was a different story.
Yeah, I think that in terms of like an organizing storage
solutions kind of project, that decluttering step or just kind
of letting go of things that you don't really need anymore can
just be so helpful because otherwise you're trying to
engineer all these solutions to store stuff that doesn't even
really need to be in your space anymore.
And the way that I like to think about it is in terms of I do not
want to look at my set of supplies, whether that's
notebooks or any other kind of type of journaling supply.
I don't want to look at those and feel guilty because I'm not
using them. Like I do not want to come into
my creative space and be hit with all of these negative
feelings because all of these items are effectively screaming
at me saying why aren't you using me?
You haven't picked me up in 84 years.
I thought you were going to use me for XYZ.
Like I don't need those kind of things.
I don't need the these items to make me feel bad about having
them in my space. I would rather either like, you
know, donate them to somewhere else, hand them on to a
different home, sell them if they're still good enough kind
of items so that then they can go and fulfill their destiny
with somebody else who they can spark joy with.
It's a very good point. I mean, even when I was putting
that giveaway pile, like my wife probably took several notebooks.
A number of people that she's been talking to at work, she's
been just having conversation. And a few of them recently were
like, oh, I'm big into journaling.
And I just, you know, sit down every morning and kind of write
a few thoughts. And it was a perfect time
because I was like, hey, I have all of these notebooks that I
know that I'm not going to use. Do you think that they would
want them? And she's like, absolutely.
And she took them in and they were so excited, which made me
happy. You know, I was like, I know
that I wasn't going to use them. I was a little bit sad that they
were leaving me, you know, because they've been with me for
so long. But it was awesome to know that
like someone else is going to use them.
Like you just said, that is a, it's a really fantastic feeling
and something that I think more people should be open to.
You know, yes, let's not throw brand new things away 100% let's
not do that. But who can I give this to?
Especially if it's an unused notebook or other stationary
we'll talk about today. I'm telling how much wash it I
give away on a monthly basis. Yeah, I think it just kind of
softens the blow a little bit, especially because, you know, if
you've had things that you've held onto for such a long time,
those notebooks, in particular those Archer and Olive originals
that you're like, Oh my God, this is like a collector's item.
Now, knowing that while it's sitting there on my shelf, it
might look beautiful and I might, you know, glance at it
every so often and such, but it's not getting to do its job
because its job is to be used and to be written in.
And I think the thing for me is that like getting into that,
like, oh, I can't get this again.
I can't get this again mindset. It's, it's so and so rare and
such and if I let go of it and then I want it at some point,
then I'm never going to be able to get it back.
First of all, I might be able to, I just might have to pay a
premium for it. And second of all, like I think
it's OK because there are other notebooks that I obviously like
more. Otherwise I wouldn't even have
this kind of like consideration point of getting rid of the
thing. If you're considering getting
rid of it, then you've kind of like already made the choice.
I feel you're just trying to justify yourself to keep it when
you don't really need to. Beautifully, said Jess.
I could have not have said that in a better way.
That was so on point and that just like you said that and I
was like, you're right. I wasn't going to use that even
though it was a collector's item.
Yeah, I think that's even The thing is that sometimes we have
them and because they, we have this like special attachment to
it, because it feels special, like it's a collector's item and
whatnot, then we feel like we can't use it until we have that
perfect situation where we could.
And I don't know if that situation is ever going to come
up. You know, some of the notebooks
that we hold on to now we're talking about notebooks.
Some of the notebooks we hold on to, we feel like we have to get
like a perfect solution for it. Like I need to use this for the
perfect thing, otherwise it's wasted.
And I'm like, well, right now it's being wasted because you're
just not using it. I when I was going through mine
too, I was having all of these like reminiscent thoughts of
that. I was like, oh, I saved this
notebook because I was going to do this thing, but I never
actually did that. I mean the other thing too, I
realized how many like R&D notebooks, I actually had a lot
more than I thought that I actually did.
And the other other thing I had to realize too, especially with
like Archer and Oliver, any of the other brands, most of them
have over 150 pages in there, right.
And that was the other thing too, is I was like, if you have
like one idea for a notebook, like I also had to think to
myself, was I or am I actually ever going to do more than just
that one idea in there? Because to make a notebook
solely like a topic notebook, I mean, there has to be some
intentionality behind that and you have to follow through on
it. And I'll tell you, there are a
number of notebooks just where I was like, oh, you are now my
Swatch notebook. I found three different
notebooks that started a Swatch notebook but never followed
through because I like found something else that I thought
was going to be better. Like I started with an A5, but I
never fully figured it out. And then I was like, oh, I have
this traveler size notebook that's actually a better size
for it. And I started inside of there
and then I found like a disc bound one that I was like,
because I can move stuff around. I was like, Oh no, we need to.
We need to pick one and get rid of the rest or use it for
something else. Yeah, I also find it hard to let
go of the half used notebooks because oftentimes they are now
reference materials that I use on the channel.
So it's like, Oh yeah, I have an example of a layout where I did
ABC and it's, you know, the first 3 pages of a notebook have
been used 'cause I needed to set that layout up for something.
Thankfully, for the most part with my R&D journals, I do use
them to completion. There might be like one or two
pages kicking around in the back because I'm waiting for the very
specific video where I only need 1 to 2 pages, which doesn't
happen very often when I do an ideas video.
But I think that outside of keeping those ones, and I also
like to keep the ones that I have already used to completion
in terms of like daily bullet journals and such, my unused
notebook collection is upsettingly large.
And I am, I'm actually like getting to a point where I'm
excited to let some of them go, which feels very strange because
I know that I'm a bit of a notebook quarter and it's like,
oh God, precious, keep it like a dragon.
Especially when you're trying to complete your rainbow out, you
want to make sure that you have a nice gradient.
So you've been picking up notebooks here and there to make
sure that the color transition works well.
But I've I've gotten to the point where like this is looking
great, love the rainbow, this is looking good.
Love my specialty collection. But I also have over 100
notebooks just sitting in the shelves behind me over there
that just, they don't see the light of day, mainly because
they get like sun damaged and I don't want them to.
But it's like you're just taking up space that could be utilized
for other things. Well, that's actually a really
good transition to move on between the organized
decluttering and then moving into like this storage slash
display space because like you just said, you have your
notebooks out colors specialty displayed.
I'm kind of the other way about it where I use the box cover
because I'm not ready to put the notebook out yet.
So like my method is always once I use a notebook, the box gets
tossed. So it's kind of this like moment
to say, OK, you no longer are brand new.
You are being used for something.
You will now go on a shelf for used or R&D notebook.
So I have a whole shelf just for that.
But I really love the covers of a lot of the notebooks too.
A lot of them are very pretty. We like arch and Olive has been
adding designs to the spines like what you have behind you
and you can see those and like those look really nice on the
shelves. And for me especially looking
all the way back to some of those first ones, they're just
white or black boxes. This is like way back when they
didn't have anything specialty. And I was like, those actually
don't look very cool. Like the notebook inside is
neat, but the box itself was kind of boring.
So when I started sending up my shelves, it was really focusing
on two things, which is 1. What looks great facing out when
I see it or if other people people see it, but then also
like hiding the other things behind it.
So one of the things that I do is I do set them up horizontally
across my shelf. But if I really like the cover
and I also need a bit more space, I also stack them kind of
front to back as well because that gives me more space.
It's like I think, what did I figure out?
I could fit 11 notebooks across, but I could also fit that many
back. So it was almost like you kind
of take up like 3 or 4 notebook spaces.
You give yourself extra space. This brain does amazing things
when I've got a things onto his shelf, but it was really
fantastic as a way to be like, oh, I'm going to display
different things or as the season change.
It makes me feel like I'm using the collection a little bit more
aesthetically, which is its purpose on the shelf until I use
that notebook. But that's really kind of how I
focused on it too, and saying like, what do I visually want to
see every single day? Whether it's a notebook out the
spine or the front of the notebook.
And then that also helped me make a lot of decisions from a
storage standpoint. Yeah, I found that I was
originally storing them in their boxes.
And then it got to a point where I had so many notebooks that I
was like, oh, if I take this out-of-the-box, I can store even
more because the boxes would just take up so much extra space
because they're thick boxes. It's like that problem of the,
oh, this is a really great box. I kept so many of those ultra
and olive notebook boxes to the point where I had a tower of
them that was taller than me when they were stacked, like
flat packed one on top of the other.
And like, this is a problem. We need to let this go because
now you're just double storing things.
You're storing the boxes without the notebooks, but then also
taking out space storing the notebooks.
So like you've got twice the real estate.
I ended up giving all of those boxes to my friend who works at
an early childhood center. Because the kids use it to paint
in because it has like, you know when you go bowling and you
can't not get a gutter ball so you get the little like bumpers
up. It was like that, but for
painting and for children because your paintbrush can't
slip off the paper because it's in a box.
That is actually a really cool idea, I never thought about
that. Look at extra uses for those
Arch and olive notebook boxes we all have so many of.
Yeah, the newer ones don't work quite as well, sadly, because
they have the slide out, but I've also seen people turn those
into little storage drawers and stuff like that, which I think
is a very nifty solution because it effectively is a little
drawer. They just stick the boxes on top
of one another and have little drawers for their pens and such.
Of course, it depends on which pens you're using, because some
pens are too large to fit into certain storage solutions, which
is very frustrating. I was just looking to say, I
mean, while we have a lot of art and olive notebooks, one of the
other things I've been trying to do a better job of storing are
just like pocket notebooks or like small little notebooks.
So I actually recently when I redid my whole space, I used to
have kind of like a like a double wide clear drawers
actually, I think for storage instead I have a refrigerator
with like 2 rows on it. And I actually originally used
it to store my stamps until I found a different way to store
my stamps, but I kept them inside of there.
And then when I moved up here to this office, I was like, well, I
don't have the same drawer space for that.
And I moved them inside of one of my city oak crates and in a
similar fashion. But now those just stack
vertically and they're also on wheels because that's the other
thing too is like there is a closet that's next to me now,
but my wife needs to get into sometimes times and she's like,
you can't put anything in front of that stationary.
Like I do need to still get into that.
And I was like, well, then the art cart goes there and like
there's now this new stack of all of these different things
that are labeled. So I know what's inside of them.
But that has also been something from a notebook standpoint too,
because I couldn't put them on my shelves.
But they're also small. So they also really didn't need
like their own space. And I kind of go back and forth
on using pocket notebooks anyway.
Sometimes it's like quick ideas or I've been using them a lot
for gaming journals and what not, But I also have a a lot of
those too. They just take up less space.
So they're a little bit less of like a menace from a storage
standpoint. But that was an easy way to do
it. I know some people store them in
shoeboxes because shoeboxes tend to be a bit taller and they fit
inside of there too. So there are a few options.
I don't know how much of A pocket notebook person you are,
if you have any storage tips. Yeah, no, in terms of pocket
notebooks, I do have some or like at least I have like a six
size ones. In particular, I find that desk
risers are pretty good for that if you get the height right,
because then you can effectively like double stack your vertical
storage of the notebooks. So you can essentially end up
with like it's like a mezzanine shelf is what I like to think of
it as it's you're not moving to the next floor, you're just on
the mezzanine shelf. So you can stack things
underneath it in terms of your notebooks and then also have
them on top of that desk riser. So you can do it that way.
Otherwise, what some people do is that they will just double
stack. They will put a full row of
notebooks in their shelf storage and then just another row of
notebooks on top of that. I tend to not like doing that as
much because it makes it harder to get out the ones on the
underside, but if you're not really trying to get them out
super, super often, that can still be a way to store them
all. I feel like if I get to a point
where I need to sort all them in that kind of double system, I
probably need to declutter Decluttering.
It is my favorite sport. I'm just really bad at it when
it comes to notebooks. I tend to be a little bit better
when it comes to like pens and extra things like that.
I don't know if we want to move into that topic next because I
feel like that's a really difficult one from a storage
standpoint because there are so many options for pens.
And I want to ask you this question because I feel like
this is one that comes by a lot, especially with specialty pens
like brush pens and acrylographs or paint pens and things like
that. Do you have kind of a rule or a
method when it comes to like what gets stored horizontally
versus what can be stored vertically?
When it comes to certain types of fence because I don't know
the rules. Yeah, so anything that's double
ended, I try to store horizontally, mainly because
gravity will do what gravity does and it will slowly draw the
ink down to one end of the pen. I used to store my Tombos, which
are double ended vertically, and I would find that the bullet
end, which was always stored in the kind of downward position,
would always have a more intense color.
Thankfully, I did have a storage solution for that that came with
a lid. So every so often I would just
put the lid on and flip it over, just store it like that for a
little while so that the ink could kind of start to run in
the other direction. But it got to a point where I
kind of just got sick of doing that.
So I have now got it in a horizontal position.
It's not necessarily perfect, especially because the little
kind of holes that the pens slot into, they hold them, their
wheel enough, but not as well as they could.
Maybe especially when you live in an earthquake country, things
tend to shake around a little bit.
But it's nothing so majorly bad that I've had them like all fall
out at once or anything. Every often I just need to go
and push them back in. I don't know.
Other than that I do like to store like the acrylographs when
I had them, which I do not anymore.
Decluttering for the win. Those ones were always stored
horizontally because otherwise you try and shake them and you'd
have to spend like half an hour per pen as opposed to 5 minutes.
And This is why I wouldn't use them, because I don't like to
use supplies that require that much maintenance.
Other than that though, I don't think there are any that
specifically I require to store horizontally, but most of mine
do end up stored horizontally. I came up with a solution for
the acrylic wraps and all of the brush pens too because I had
that issue. A lot of my double ended brush
pens were getting like crystallized.
I don't know what they call it. It was like weird.
I was like a little alien growing on it.
And I was like, is this bacteria?
Fungus? Yeah, fungus.
I don't even know what this is here, but I kind of reached out
to different teams and asked the community about it.
And that's what they said is that like, if it's if it's
stored vertically and the ink is drying out, they can do kind of
weird stuff. And I was like, OK, and I did
find better storage with like drawers and especially for like
acrylographs and all of that. The hard part too, and this is
probably a little like faux pas, but I also like don't love
keeping them inside of the boxes that they come in.
While I know that they are good boxes for that storage, I also
like to like visually see my pen.
So I kind of this mixed bag where I have a clear drawer that
has them all in it and I probably have like half of my
pens that are in there, especially like the double ended
pens are not inside of a box. But then all the acrylographs I
have organized either by collection or if they already
came in like a packaging like a sub box, I just keep them in
there and like right on the end. So I know what's in it.
But it is just good because like you said, I had to learn over
time to store those horizontally.
But there's just like I didn't, I never found like a really
fantastic option for it. I just feel like everyone's just
kind of figuring it out and we're like, oh, go to Muji and
then you have to go over here to buy these little pen slot
holders and then you go over here to get and I was like, this
is a lot. I need something a lot easier,
but that was definitely helpful for me from like a horizontal
standpoint. But still, sometimes it's just
easier to have things vertically because there's so many more
options for vertical storage I feel like.
Yeah, I think that a lot of the pen storage for me is like
trying to make it visual because otherwise I will forget that I
have them. I've been very much into the
idea of like visual versus non visual and macro versus micro
organization in terms of supplies.
So for instance, visual means like you can see it get the way
and typically you can see it in such a way that means that it's
going to be readily available like it's in your line of sight
as opposed to visually appealing in a closet that you close and
it's like hidden away type of a thing.
So visual versus hidden. And then macro versus micro is
more about like do you need very specific tiny categories or do
you need like quite large categories.
So you doing like acrylographs, calliographs, super tips, like
all of that? Or are you doing hens?
That would be the macro category.
I am not just storing things in pens unless they're those kind
of ones that are, you know, the random oddball pens you get
where you might, you know, go to go wild or something and they'll
give you like 3 sample pens. And you're like, well, I don't
want to get rid of this because it's a pen and this still has
ink. And I don't want to, you know,
just like throw away something that still could be useful, but
I don't want to have it just like by itself, exactly like
that, right? Because Because I have.
Yeah, because I have like special pens.
I mean, for instance, I mean, I basically built my entire studio
around my fountain pen wall that's behind me now, right?
I have all of them in there and it's like they're on display.
That's where those go. And then I also have behind me
too, called Hive Keep. It was a brand that makes these.
They're actually made for like tattoo ink, but they also can be
used for other storage too. And I got those because visually
they look really cool and they organize in that micro version
that you're talking about because each hexagon only fits
so many pens. And what I've done essentially
is I've gone through and I've pared down and organized things
in there by that. So it's like my first row is
like pens that I always use or like we'll easily grab, like you
said, that visual needed in a spot so I can grab it easily.
And I have mechanical pencils next to that.
And then from there, I kind of just built out because I also
like to keep things in collections by brand.
That's also really big thing for me too because I feel like often
when I'm like, oh, I'm going to grab this, I feel like I have to
use the whole brand of like the colors or whatever it is.
I don't have to, I'm not like sponsored by anybody or
whatever. But I feel like if I'm going to
use like a zebra pen, then I have to use the zebra mildliners
and then I have to use the zebra other things because it just
feels like a little family. But realistically, that's not
how I think a lot of people necessarily work.
And you don't always have all the products from every single
single brand too. So I think it's like an
interesting way to look at it and think about like, well, what
do I need accessible? Like you said, what looks nice,
especially if it's colored tips of things.
So it gets to be a lot. Tell us about how you store your
things that aren't just in pen boxes.
Yeah, because I would not. I'd not like keeping the pens in
the pen boxes. Again, if I can't say it, then
I'm not going to use that type of a thing.
My pen solutions are not ideal and I know it's in part because
I need to do more decluttering of my pens.
I did recently do a declutter and actually got rid of a good
chunk of them. I was very proud of myself.
There's still more work to be done, but I kind of like I like
to double dip. I swear some of them I will
store by brand like the Tombos. They must stay together.
They have their Tombo carry case.
That is what they are in my Statler Tri plus fine liners.
They will be together. They will be in their little
buckets and such. Anything that is from Zebra is
usually in its own collection if I have the full collection.
So like the mod liners, they are in their own space.
I have the click arts in their own space.
I have my what Crayola super tips in their own space.
All of them rainbow ordered because I'm personally like
that, but I'm a sticky biscuit when it comes to the visuals of
it. But all of those kind of like
smaller collections or one offs, they get stored by colour
instead. So I have all of these little
plastic drawers, like the acrylic clear plastic drawers,
and I don't want any cloudiness in the drawer except for one of
them that I intentionally cloudified, but that's not for
pens. And I like to put them all by
their colour family. So I've got my little red drawer
and my orange and my yellow. They look beautiful.
And it means that if I'm looking for a particular colour that's
in terms of like a ballpoint, then usually I can just go to
one of those drawers and I know what I'm going to find there.
It's interesting, I always thought about what if I did
break them apart and do them by color because I feel like often
that's kind of what you're looking for.
But so many of the sets already have all of the colors.
So it's like that push and pull between like do I need a certain
shade or a certain piece? And that's where I feel like
those Swatch books come in really important too, because
often you either forget like what it writes like or sometimes
the cap color is not the same color that comes out of that
pen. And that happens a lot for me.
And it's very, very troublesome, especially as someone who's
color deficient. Like I rely on colors.
Well, specifically color names in like colored numbers of
things to help me out if I'm trying to find certain colors.
But like I can see color. So if I'm like, oh, this is a
green pen or marker and I bring it out and it's like, actually,
no, that has more black in it or I don't even know.
It happens a lot with the Archer and olive brush pens.
Let's just put it that way. Then you obviously haven't tried
the Oh Hoo Hoos or the create all the Super tips because they
are notoriously poor. Like right in terms of a, you
know, budget friendly option and such.
But in terms of matching caps to colors, No, no, no, no, no, no,
no. So it's hard to kind of count on
that. So I think it is very much like
those watch books are important, but I do think it's a lot of fun
to organize. I mean, when I sit down with all
of my stuff and I just did this again, even though everything
was already in the container when I brought it up here
because it was easy to store. I still took everything out and
I cleaned inside because I was like this is a fresh start space
so like let's do it and like putting them back in there.
And I did really think about like what am I using and what am
I not using it? And I did have a separate bin
that I took to work. My my friends at work love me
because anytime I declutter they get all of it and they're like
why do you have so quick? Why are you bringing more mild
liners this time? I was like because I already
have like 3 complete sets. I don't need any more but I get
them so often. But it was just like do I use
these also? And my wife gets mad at me
because I also take out like pinks and purples and like a lot
of pastel colors because I don't typically use them in my bullet
journal. And she's like, why are you
giving me all of your pinks and purples?
And I was like, I just don't use pink and purple.
So like, why am I going to store it if I'm not going to use it as
my thought process? Maybe it's not super inclusive
of all the colors, but it's my stuff.
Well, I mean, that's the point, right?
Like in terms of storing the things in your selection of
supplies, it makes sense to keep things that you are going to
use, because otherwise you're storing stuff that's literally
just there to complete a set rather than to be functional in
the way that you're going to be using your supplies. 100% And so
that's been like a really big thing for me in this new move
has been exactly that. Am I going to use it also?
I will fully admit this, and everyone knows this, you find
stuff you forgot that you even had even though it's out.
And I was like, oh, I really loved using this pen or I should
use that more. And that's what I've been doing.
I've been almost like challenging myself now, but I
know that it's there. I'm like, Mark, you're going to
use those metallic brush markers like you bought them for a
reason. It's time to find a fun way to
incorporate them. You haven't used them in a year.
Let's hope that they still work. I didn't test them out, but
hopefully that when I do, they will still be good to go.
And I'll be like, oh, I'll remember why I love these so
much much. But as the collection is getting
bigger, though, it is getting more and more difficult where I
do have to be very selective about what's out and what's not.
But I feel like that's part of that paring down process like
you mentioned. Yeah, I think that the nice part
about pens in particular, maybe not so much fountain pens but
just general pens, is that when it doesn't work, it is so easy
to let go off for the most part because I'm like, there's
absolutely no point in keeping you because you do not write.
The ones that I find hardest are the ones that still write, and
they write OK enough, but they're not my like, most
readily grabbed kind of pen, if that makes sense.
It'll be one that like I could use but I just don't.
One of the hexagons is filled with those pens where I'm like,
it's a nice pen. Like it wasn't cheap, but I also
like not going for that one first.
So it is kind of what we talked about almost with the notebooks
where you're like, I don't want to get rid of it yet.
But that does come in handy when someone's like, oh, I need a
gift or a gift idea or donation. I'm like here, I'm not using
these like take these like the amount of things I've given away
recently. Everyone's loving me because
it's so much good stuff, but it's then I had like also
validate myself. Then that's the problem where
I'm like, well, good thing I held on to that and didn't get
rid of that a while ago. We wouldn't have had that today,
but it's definitely one of those things of like finding the right
size. The other thing I was going to
mention too, like if you're really starting from scratch on
this, always buy more than what you think you're going to need
from a storage perspective. So like I just did that.
I went to Office Depot and I was looking for all of this
different size storage for my drawers, but I was, I wasn't
sure exactly what was going to work and like how many I was
going to need. So I bought more than I needed.
I just took back what I didn't have.
But at least I have to like go back out to the store and like
buy more, you know, like I had everything here.
I just had to take a separate trip later on when I realized I
bought too much. I love your tip because I'm just
like, absolutely do not do that because you're introducing more
clutter to your house that you do not need.
Instead, what you should do is get out some parchment paper,
put it into your drawer. Make sure that you measure the
that you have so that you can take that piece of parchment
paper that's been measured to your drawer to the store and
figure out what will fit perfectly in your drawer
instead, because then it will match perfectly to your drawer.
Nothing's going to Shaka Shaka around and you can place your
items into that. Oh, Jess, This is why you're the
best person. We are so different when it
comes to that. I was like, I could not even I
would have never in my life, first of all thought to do that.
Like take paper to a store to measure ahead of type.
Weird. But yeah, I'm definitely the
type of person. I mean, I guess everyone's
different. Like maybe some people would
forget to take them back to the store then feel like they were
going to use them for something else.
Like. But I knew in my mindset though,
like I bought more than I needed and I took my medicine that
morning that I didn't have those impulsive thoughts of not taking
them back. And I finished what I was doing
and I took them right back and returned them.
I got my money back and I was like, perfect.
I didn't have to make several trips to Home Depot because I
forgot to buy the extra set of nails.
You know, like I just had what I needed and went that way.
Or the smarter way is just his way which is planning ahead.
No, I'm just the kind of person who if I go and get it, it's
never gonna leave my house. Like it's just gonna end up
being like in my clutter pile in two years time when I do another
day clutter or something. Because I'm not the kind of
person who returns things often unless there's something
genuinely not right with it. I've just kind of, I justify it
to myself, right? Like, oh, I'm sure I could find
somewhere else to use it. And then it's literally all just
sitting in my spare room. And I have company tomorrow, so
it needs to find a new home now. Maybe I should start my
decluttering today. Yeah, another ADHD pile.
Just move it somewhere else, you know, and just keep building on
top of it. Yeah, I think that the hard part
about those piles is that is that perfectionistic kind of
mindset. It's like, I'll leave it here
because I can't do it perfect just now, but I want it to be
done perfectly. And then the time for perfection
never comes. And the pile sits and the pile
festers and the pile grows and you're just like, great, now
it's even more of a problem for future me.
Yeah, my problem was always I do that, but I'm like, oh, I'm
gonna sit this box over here because I want to do a YouTube
video or an unboxing with it. Like my subscription box from
the past Arch and Olive box is sitting here.
I've moved it several times around my new space because it
was like, Mark, you need to make that video about like ideas on
how to use this. But I don't want to take the
items out of it because they're already organized in a box.
But it's one of those things where I like, I can't wait to
just put all those things in their specific spots in the
office where they're going to go and get rid of just the box.
But I also just like, but then I pile on top of that because then
it's like, oh, new pens came. We're also going to do a video
for that. Oh, a few new inks.
Oh, I got a new sticker book. And then, yeah, next thing you
know, the pile is half the size of me.
I, I in particular needed a solution to that type of a thing
because when I do, for instance, like a monthly setup or whatnot,
I want to use the same suppliers for the entire of the month.
So I would just leave them out on my desk because if I put them
away, they're not coming out again, which means that
everything won't be cohesive matchy matchy like I like it to
be. So instead what I did was go and
buy a set of three acrylic drawers just from Kmart.
Actually I think they're not even a set.
They're three separate drawers that are like modal so you can
click them together. Love it.
I know not everybody has Kmart anymore.
Haha. Shame.
No, I'm so I'm so sorry for you, but we also don't have the
container store so like, this is the only thing I've got.
Guys, come on. Did if I tell you that I used to
work at the container store? And you.
And you left crazy. Well, no, I loved working there.
Talk about organization. I mean, it's it's it's it's
literally as a passion of mine. First, it was the most amazing
place to ever work, hands down. Like aside from my career that I
have now, that was an amazing retail job.
But I also used to be it like an alpha designer.
So I used to design the closets. Like that's another big exciting
part of my life. But I love finding solutions to
people's problems and my own as well, obviously.
And yeah, store is just like, it is drugs for people to like to
organize because you're just like, oh, over here or go over
here, like over behind me. I have one of these like spinny
things for inks because I was like, I want to display inks,
but it's not ones. I have it all the time.
I was explaining to the person that works there.
And we did. We went on like a treasure hunt
around the store. And I was like, this is what I
loved about working here. When someone comes to you with a
problem and you're just like, OK, let's solve this together.
The truth is, is that not every place is like that.
I'm sure that people like Kmart maybe not as excited to help you
find storage solutions for your project boxes.
Not so much, but I do love that like, you know, because we don't
have the Container Store, we at least have this and they have a
range. I think it's supposed to be
bathroom storage. I don't know, it's in the
bathroom section, but they're all of these little acrylic
plastic drawers that fit together nicely.
And that is what I've got on my desktop.
Like that is what all of my rainbow drawers are.
That is what my project boxes are because I wanted three of
them so I could have one for my everyday journal setup and one
for my reading journal setup and one for next month setup because
I usually set up a little bit in advance.
So it's like haha beautifully organized system.
Yay. I just, they make my heart
happy. The only problem is is that
they're not long enough to fit any of the calliographs in.
Why did they make the pen so long?
Why? There has to be like some like
national standard size that they're supposed to be, right to
fit inside of those containers. I mean, that's always been the
problem. I know when people try to use
the notebook boxes to store those, they're like, it doesn't
quite fit. Not every single acrylic bin out
there works with it. It does make it a little bit
more difficult and it's not like a standard size, but that's
their differentiator, Jess. They're just really, really long
brush bends. Just get me something to file
the end off. I swear it would just make my
life so much easier if all of the pens that I had would fit
into the same storage solution, but that's just not the way
reality has lined up for me. It's fine.
I'll be fine. Well, let's move on to the next
storage item, because I'm sure every single person in the
entire world has this issue. How are we stirring washi tapes?
Poorly. Poorly is the answer.
I know some people are out there like taking the washi off the
roll and putting it onto cards and such, and I can understand
that that will definitely save you space.
But heck to the Nah, am I gonna do that?
Wait, what? There's a There's another option
of storing washes and just on a roll.
Yeah, people get like a little plastic card, notably not like
this one, this is metal. And they will just stick one end
of the washi down and then wind it around and around the card.
You'll end up with a washi business card effectively.
And they'll usually fit maybe 3 or 4 different designs on there
if you're going with the regular, you know, 1 1/2
centimetre wide kind of ones. But it means that you're not
storing them on rolls. So they can slot into a drawer
and flat pack a lot easier. Whereas the rolls obviously take
up a little bit of extra space, and a decent chunk of that space
is wasted because there's a big hole in the middle of it.
That I've never, I've seen people that give like little
washi samples on those cards, but I've never in my life
thought about like converting washi rolls to those cards, like
whole washi rolls. Yeah, I think that also, if you
think about it in terms of the samples and maybe in terms of
how long a washi roll actually is, when you wind it around for
the entire roll, obviously it's going to get a little plump,
which is fine. You know, if you're going to use
it all totally fine. But it can also be a nice way to
just take what you need and pass on the rest of the tape.
I find that with a lot of the types that I have in my
collection, I'll use maybe 1/3 to 1/2 of a roll.
And by the point of getting to that, I'm like, I don't really
need this anymore. Like it can go and live with
somebody else because I've used it to the extent that I want to.
That's interesting. Yeah.
A lot of my storage for Washi is varied.
So when I got the, I forget how to pronounce it, but the
pegboard from IKEA that's behind me, I was thinking of a
potentially a few different ways to organize it there.
And there are a lot of different solutions with like shelves and
stacking. I ended up with these little
elastic accessories that come with this and they're kind of
hanging on. They're almost like Garland in a
way. The same thing as I talked about
before with the notebooks, like I was picking ones that I use
often to have up there, right? That way they're there, they
have a purpose, not just visually look cool, but they
also have a purpose because I'll use them.
Now everything else I kind of have in two different spots
right now. One, on the back of my art cart,
there was an accessory that you could buy that have these little
hinges on it. Maybe it's used for other
things, but I used it for washi tape.
So I still have probably another third of my collection on that
right now because that's where they all were before they move
to my little Garland hangers. But then I also just have a box
of washi. It's just one of those
collapsible boxes and it's like a miscellaneous bin at like the
art and craft store because it's like stuff that I don't want to
get rid of because I could potentially use it.
But it's also not my favorite stuff also.
So I also will grab into that. I just did that tonight.
My wife was going to a friend's house for a game night and she
had a notebook that I gave her and a pen I gave her.
She's like, what else? I was like, please take some
washi. Like I've got a ton of it.
I just like brought the bin up and she picked through it.
And I do that with work too. If it's stuff I'm just not sure
about it, just take it there. But I definitely like the idea
of that. I know some people do them with
those clear drawers as well. I have actually, Oh my gosh.
I also have a clear drawer that I haven't emptied that's down
the basement too yet. Oh my gosh.
Oh, no, no, From my tape storage.
I just do them in drawers. The drawers are quite shallow,
so it's kind of like just one stack high, I guess.
And I arranged it so you can actually see the design of the
tape. I'm not stacking it kind of
like, you know, face down or whatever.
It's going to be Sunnyside up so you can see it.
And I do try and arrange it so that they are all in the same
orientation. And I in particular try and
arrange it so that they're not going to roll back and forth.
They're going to roll side to side because I don't want to
open up the drawer and have them all roll to the back of the
drawer where I now can't see them anymore.
The only main organization that I have in there is one splitting
it into washy versus PET because I want all my pet tapes together
and all of my washy tapes together just because they do
kind of serve different functions for me.
And then the second level of organization there is having all
of the black and white ones together, which are typically
like the black and white grid ones or like anything celestial
or such, like you know, main colours are black and white.
And then the other space is for anything craft, tan, neutral,
kind of colours. Everything else is just like a
find a space that fits type of a deal.
It's not the perfect solution that it's the one I have at the
moment. The thing with the drawers, I
did think about that, but the problem I was having is that I
couldn't figure out how to like keep them like contained to
their washi width so that they weren't doing that.
I mean, I know there's definitely like drawer dividers
and things like that that I would probably use, but I did
have one of the shells I got up here is like it has a lip around
it and I was like, oh, I could use that.
But I when I loaded them in perfectly, it looked really
nice. But then as soon as I like
picked it up and moved it, by the time I got it onto the
board, they were scattered all over.
And I was like, this is like it isn't even organized chaos.
It was just chaos in a bin and I just couldn't, I couldn't do it.
I took them off and I was like, no, this isn't what this is for.
Now I I can't. So I just put them back onto
that little like vertical slider.
Yeah, I find that using kind of drawer inserts, which I usually
just use the ultra and olive boxes because haha, why not?
I have them. So anything that I want to kind
of keep contained and together I'll put into those.
I do also know that sometimes people get those actual
separators that like you can extend to the exact width of
your drawer or length of your drawer, or you can just use
dowels like wooden rods and they don't even need to be threaded
through the washi. In fact, don't because otherwise
then you can't get anything out of the drawer, but you can use
it to kind of make lanes or channels that your washi won't
roll over because there's kind of something standing in its
way. That can be 1 system.
I kind of want to get something for myself.
I haven't done it yet. At the moment I am just using
all of these little boxes as draw inserts.
Very cheap. Well, I guess you could say very
cheap if you just bought the notebook for the box.
No, not so cheap, but given that I bought it for the notebook
very cheap. So it's a solution.
It's not a perfect one, it's not like the most aesthetic, but it
works. I thought about also, I know a
lot of people on, I've seen people buy on Amazon, they're
similar to the stacking shelves like you've talked about, but
they are kind of like tape dispensers.
So you like stack your washi up on those and that way you pull
them off. But they have the like serrated
teeth on it. And I'm not about serrated teeth
for my washing and a nice clean cut.
But I did think about that as well because that way you like
you can stack them and you can still see the design that's on
them. And then you could just kind of
like build them out. But I think in my mind though, I
really just decided like, I'm not going to be that type of
washi person. I have a lot of it.
I don't use it all the time, but it's like I have it.
So I tried to use it. I feel like I was really big
into washi. And we know plenty of our plenty
of our pals are washi fanatics. I feel like then in that case, I
would have like a wall of washi instead of a wall of fountain
pens, right, Or something like that where you just have them
out because they are so beautiful.
I mean, I think that's the thing about them too is like you want
to see them because one that you know, you have them, but to like
they have really beautiful designs on them, like their art
tape. So it's just like you want them
to also look really pretty too, which I think this adds to like
finding the right storage for them.
Or again, if you're just putting them inside of a box, but you
can't see them, it's like then making sure you're labeling them
the right way and it gets to be complex.
But definitely was curious and I got some good tips from you
there just on how to potentially source some washi outside of
just like the bins that already exist or again, just like
hanging them like Garland around your art space.
Yeah, I think that the macro verse micro storage also comes
into it because you have some people out there who have very
extensive washi collections because that's that is their
thing. Like that is their supply that
they love to collect. So they will have, you know,
their section of stars and their section of bows and their
sections of Reds and oranges and yellows and all of that kind of
a thing. Whereas for you notably, you
don't use washi quite as much. So just having this is my washi
bucket like that might be sufficient.
Like provided you can remember what's in there, which you know,
when your collection starts getting too big, it can be a
little difficult, yadda yadda. But not all storage solutions
are going to be exactly right for everyone.
And that's why it's good that we have options.
Like the little dispenses that you were talking about before.
Some of the tapes that I previously purchased did come on
those. And while they were very handy
for being able to just get a little bit of tape off or
whatnot, you also had to be very mindful of how many you had on
there. Because if you stack them too
close to each other, because they are sticky, they stick to
each other, which means that when 1 rolls, the others roll at
the same time. You're like, no, no, no, no, not
all of you. Just one, just one tape.
Thank you so much. And also if you wanted to change
them out or anything because your preferences changed or one
of them ran out or anything, you have to like take all of them
off. That was the biggest issue that
I foresaw with these garlands inside.
It's like, OK, I want that tape in the middle so I have to take
the whole thing off and then take all of these ones off so
that I can get that one tape out so I can put everything back on
so I can hang it back up so I'm not making a mess of my floor.
Too much effort. Not going to be for me.
I mean, that's how the accessory holder on the art card is.
You have to, I'm like, oh, I need this one.
Then I like take them off as like a sleeve to get one off and
put them all back on. And I'm usually really good
about doing that, making sure because I don't want it to be a
mess. But it's definitely not the
easiest. Some of us have smaller hands.
It's hard for us. Yeah, the struggle is real.
So for those ones we feel like we maybe have a an OK hold on,
maybe not the perfect solution, but still a good enough.
What would be the biggest problem area you find in your
storage for your supplies? Well, we talked about all the
big ones, like washi tape was kind of the one in there, but I
would say definitely my ink collection because none of those
bottles are always like a standard size.
And so you have like really fat ones and thin ones and all of
those types of things. So for a really long time I was
just kind of like stacking them on a desk.
And because I like to explained things, eventually I got to a
point where I was like, OK, I need to find like a really good
way to do this. And a lot of the, you know,
container store options at the time were essentially like
pantry storage that only had like 3 shells, but they were
deep ones, right? So it was like you could
probably fit like 3 or 4 cans on a shelf and then stack them.
But when you have inks, like I want to be able to see them and
pick them out. So that wasn't it.
So I did a little bit of research.
I actually ended up finding the ones that are multi tiered, but
they're for nail Polish. So essentially that's like A8
tier or A5 Tier 1 and they're fully clear, which is what I
wanted anyway. And you just kind of screw them
together and they stand on them perfectly.
And I was like, oh, this is fantastic.
And then I was like, wait a second, what if I flip the shelf
upside down? Because on the ones that I have,
it has like a lip on the inside. And I was like, oh, because
sometimes if I go to grab an ink and it like taps another one,
it's like Domino's, it's the scariest sound ever in the
entire world. And so for some of them, like
Ferris Wheel Press, for instance, they're a little bit
thinner bottles. They look very nice.
So I want them out. So I was able to flip that
around and they fit perfectly inside of there.
So they're like somewhat contained.
And so I have four of those now and I'm, I'm not going to go
beyond that. But then it was funny earlier
when you were talking about like the, the mezzanine shelves and
like doing that, that's essentially what I've also done.
So all of my inks are on those stack shelves, but I also have
ink samples. So they're, you know, smaller
bottles of those. And so I do have ink sample
holders and a lot of different varieties.
And that's what I did. I created a stack shelf.
So all of my pens sit on top and then in that little under
mezzanine area, that's where all of the samples go.
So they have a place, they have a storage solution and how
they're going there. But it took me a while to get
there. A lot of trial and error where I
was like, OK, pile them all in here.
Or do I keep them inside the boxes?
I know a lot of people that have Ferris Wheel Press inks will
keep them in the boxes because the boxes are also very
beautiful and they have the details of the ink on them.
But I wanted to see the ink. But again, this is years of
exploration and trying things and reusing them.
It's definitely not always recommended, but I had to go
through that and now I love telling people because they'll
see that and be like, Mark, how are you displaying all your
inks? I'm like, oh, here's the Amazon
link for these nail Polish holders.
That's perfect. And it always, and I tell them
my little tip about flipping the shelves over if they want to
store them inside of. But what's your problem area?
Just that you're solving for yourself or not solving yet.
The solution is coming, solution pending, but mine is going to
have to be stickers like pins also only because I need to
declutter some of them and some of them are too long.
But it's fine, I'll figure it out one day eventually maybe I
don't know. Anyways, so stickers on the
other hand, I think the hardest part here is just that like I
really want it to be a one and done solution.
I want it to be like A1 size fits all.
And it's not going to happen because the stickers are
different sizes and they different shapes.
And some of them are in books and some of them are in packets
and some of them have, you know, backing on the packet that shows
you what all the stickers are and some of them don't.
And I'm just like, so my current solution for that has been
actually moving my journals out of my art cart and keeping my
sticker books there because then they're here and I can see them
and I've got them rainbow ordered because I'm that way
inclined. That one's been quite good so
far because it just keeps them kind of like front and center.
Like you can see it. You might actually use it in
terms of the individual packets of stickers, though.
I'm going or attempting to build out, I suppose attempting to
build out a storage solution that is slaves, like plastic
pocket slaves in binders. I just don't have kind of
binders because as you start to add stickers to them, the
binders start to get very chunky and full.
So I have required several. Originally I had bought an A4
size 1 because I'm like, oh, this is going to be nice and
big. I can have heaps of pockets.
I can fit like plenty of stickers in there.
But then of course, you know, gravity being gravity, all of
the stickers slip to the bottom of the pocket.
So those parts get really, really chunky.
And then the top's just like skinny mini.
So the whole thing is like really not well distributed in
terms of sizing, but maybe I just need a more robust A4
sleeve holder. That is definitely what I need
because the one I have is one of those like El cheapo ones that
like it does the job and it clasps together just fine.
But given the number of stickers I have, it is it's struggling.
It is under the struggle bus and got hit.
It's under the bus. It'll be fine.
I'll figure something out but right now it's not the greatest.
So instead I think I have, I know I have 4 smaller binders
because they're all on the shelf there which are already full.
I'm going to need to get maybe a couple more possibly.
I would like them to all to match.
Currently they do not all match. It does not make my heart happy
when they don't match, but I need to find the right binder
first and then once I've got the one that I like, I can get
matching ones and then I can declutter the ones that don't
match. That is my current plan.
We're getting this slowly, but it is a stressful process.
Stickers. You're absolutely right.
It's probably one of the more difficult things to figure out
because of all the different ways you can do them.
I'm in the same boat. I probably have four or five
different size binders that fit different things in them.
I have the ones that you have to take the sticker off of the
sticky back and it's like a thing.
I have one of those, whatever the hell that's called.
I tried like a disk bound one, but exactly the same thing.
They sell them and you're like, oh, 48 pockets.
You're like, this is perfect. I mean, if it's so many
stickers, but then you get like 20 in there and then suddenly,
yeah, it's bulging. So I'm in the same boat with
you. We have to ask the planner pals
because I feel like there are especially Go Wild Planner pals,
the sticker fans. I feel like they have the right
solution here. Yeah, I do have one of those.
What are they called? Like the sticker release paper
books or whatever, the ones that have the kind of the slippy
backing paper, like they have effectively a book made of
sticking backup paper. And you put the sticker on, you
can transfer it from something into that book.
And I have used that especially for some of those washy rolls
that are washy stickers. And it's like I do not need a
whole 6 meters of this. I just need like 2 repeats.
So I took my 2 repeats off, put them into the, I don't know, the
sticker exchange book. It feels like just a temporary
holding space for the stickers. That's what they're sitting in
at the so I was tempted to get a couple of those, but for my PET
stickers, I don't want to sit there peeling the backs off of
all of those stickers to transfer them into the book to
maybe use them one day. It's just I mean, it's a good
idea in theory, but you're absolutely right.
It's like a total not great use of your time.
Like unless you really were like sitting down tackling that and
you're like popping on a movie or something as you're just like
wrapping or cutting up and doing that.
But otherwise, I feel you on that well platter, pals, let's
ask you where your current stationary storage pain points
are right now. Because as we always talk about,
the solutions are in the comment section.
Other people are here to help solve your problems.
So let us know down below where your current pain point are.
Whether you're watching this on YouTube, drop it in the
comments. Of course, you can always hit us
up on email.plannerpalspodcast@gmail.com
or visit us over on Instagram at Planner Pals Podcast and let us
know what those problem areas are.
I would love to hear about what you're struggling with, mainly
because we just love to help. And also I know the planner pals
out here, I want to help you as well.
Please help me. My stickers need assistance.
But in terms of our next episode, we're going to be
having a further look at stationary supplies and in
particular our biggest problem areas when it comes to
collecting them. You know, thinking about the
things we have in our stashes that maybe we have collected too
many of emphasis on the maybe. All right, we're not saying it
is a problem, but it might be like a genuine problem.
I'm really interested to get into that with you, Mark.
And as always, thanks for watching.