1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,200 Welcome to the Planner of Health podcast, a podcast hosted by two 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,040 true planner of house. I am Jess or Jessica in and. 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,320 My name is Mark, and I go by Mark your pages and welcome back 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,040 another great episode of the head for us, Jess, as we talk 5 00:00:12,040 --> 00:00:15,880 about where we are currently finding inspiration inside of 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,440 this beautiful planner sphere, especially as we're getting into 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,240 the beginning of this year. And you know, you have an idea 8 00:00:21,240 --> 00:00:23,520 for your journal or for your planners, and then you're 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,720 suddenly like, what else do I do here? 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,960 And as somebody who gives a lot of inspiration, Jess, I'm also 11 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,400 excited to hear where you're currently gathering your own 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,560 from. Yeah, it's, I mean getting into 13 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,800 the new year with your set up, your fleet of planners, maybe a 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,000 fleet definitely if you're me or maybe just your one and kind of 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,360 thinking like, oh, you know, I just I want this to be my year. 16 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,000 I want this to be the best year it can be. 17 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,560 So what can I do in my planner that's different to what I've 18 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,120 done previously? What can I do to make it the 19 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,240 best year it could be? So it doesn't necessarily need 20 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,280 to be in the span of kind of like, you know, productivity. 21 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,280 It doesn't just need to be for creativity, but we're really 22 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,360 looking at anything and anyone I suppose, who's giving us 23 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,800 inspiration at the moment. So Mark, where would your first 24 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,760 source of inspiration be? Well, I'm finding a little bit 25 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,520 more difficult more and more every single day. 26 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,200 Instagram still is a main source for inspiration from me, but not 27 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,160 in the same way that it used to be. 28 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,840 I think when I first got started, and maybe this is a 29 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,600 major differentiator now between where I am now and where I was 30 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,880 when I started. Instagram was everything to me. 31 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,840 It's kind of lived on Instagram. And I just saw so many more 32 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,800 posts about bullet journaling and ideas and things that are 33 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,120 going on. And right now I don't feel like 34 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,120 we see a lot. I see a lot of ads, that's for 35 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,360 sure. A whole lot of ads and 36 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,160 suggestions. But when I do see the people 37 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,480 that I'm looking up to, that is a common place to go to. 38 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,440 I kind of have three people on Instagram that I am always 39 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,400 seeing stuff from. And it's maybe because I'm 40 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,600 actively also searching them out very often as we go through with 41 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,320 it. I would say like my very first 42 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,400 one on Instagram was Stina from Super Massive Black Ink. 43 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,080 When I first started Bola journaling, she was one of the 44 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,800 first people that I came across and she just consistently just 45 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,680 had really cool spreads. Everything was done mostly in 46 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,720 black ink, which kind of makes sense for her name, I suppose. 47 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,639 But just seeing stuff from her early on made me feel like, oh, 48 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,480 you don't have to be this maximalist designer. 49 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,720 You don't have to be this maximalist bullet journaler to 50 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,960 still have really nice looking things. 51 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,080 So for me, she was a a major inspiration. 52 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,320 And then from like the totally opposite side of it, I have like 53 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,640 my creative inspiration person and that's Alexandra from adopt 54 00:02:28,640 --> 00:02:30,760 pages. She just has really cool 55 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,360 creative. I was actually just before this 56 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,960 episode, I was going through and I'm bringing people down and I 57 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,480 came across like her things, her February cover page and I was 58 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,880 like, and This is why you are my inspiration because this is just 59 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,840 damn cool and artsy and she does it in a really nice way. 60 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,200 So Instagram again, but it's I'm like nitpicking and finding 61 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,400 specific people. I guess now that I actively 62 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,360 search out because Instagram doesn't do a good job of feeding 63 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,440 me a lot of inspiration maybe as much as it used to. 64 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,360 Yeah, no, I completely agree with that. 65 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:05,400 Because back back when I used to use Instagram more actively, I 66 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,960 know that I was saving. Saving is my big thing. 67 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,520 You know, I would save. I never, I never liked them. 68 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,400 I never put a heart on it. I don't know why. 69 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,800 I'm very liberal with my saves. I'm not very liberal with my 70 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,600 heart, but I would always be finding all of these different 71 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,960 ideas that I want to try in my journal, like, oh, that colour 72 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,760 palette looks great. I love the way that they've set 73 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,360 up XYZ or whatever. I just don't really do that 74 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,160 anymore. And it's probably something to 75 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,800 do with the way the algorithm has changed or whatever, or 76 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,920 developed or whatever. I actually hate it when people 77 00:03:32,920 --> 00:03:36,360 say the algorithms changed. I'm like, yeah, no, no shit. 78 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,920 That's like what their job is. Their job is to make you stay on 79 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,120 the platform for longer. So they're gonna have to update 80 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,720 things so that it does that. But I think that because of 81 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,200 that, a lot of the stuff that I'm getting shown on Instagram 82 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,040 now isn't actually planned related, which feels kind of 83 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,760 weird because I pretty much spend the majority of my time on 84 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,080 my planner account on there, the stuff related to my journal and 85 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,680 all of that. So you'd think I'd see more 86 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,480 about that. But it's probably just because 87 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,960 anything that I share or like, you know, send to my story or 88 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,200 send to my friends or anything like that, it's just going to be 89 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,360 a meme, something about books or anything in that kind of space. 90 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,920 So it's like the algorithm's like, well, hey, you spent at 91 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,520 least three seconds looking at this thing about, I don't know, 92 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,960 throne of glass or whatever. So now we're just going to show 93 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,440 you that, which would be very dangerous when it comes to the 94 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,240 territory of spoilers and books, but that is a complete aside. 95 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,160 So yeah, not really seeing as much on the planner space in 96 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,200 Instagram anymore. Yeah. 97 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,200 You're totally right about the spoiler thing. 98 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,480 My daughter was recently rewatching Gossip Girl and she 99 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,200 was maybe like three seasons and and I would ask her like, oh, 100 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,200 who do you think it is? And then she watched a reel that 101 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,240 spoiled it and I was just like, so she was like, oh, it's not to 102 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,320 spoil it for anyone here. She was like, oh, I think it's 103 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,920 this person. And I was like, oh, OK. 104 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,560 And then like 2 weeks later she's like, I was watching 105 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,760 Instagram reels and it's someone spoiled it for me. 106 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,280 And there she was like, oh, it's this person. 107 00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:55,440 I was like, well, you don't really know. 108 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,120 Like trying to, you know, fake it until I make it for her to 109 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,920 give it a little bit of that. But you're absolutely right. 110 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,920 It's kind of like if you're late to the journey or late to the 111 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,760 game or whatever that right saying is, you're going to miss 112 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:08,680 out. That was the same thing with 113 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,160 like Game of Thrones and stuff like that. 114 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,600 Like if you didn't watch it the night of, you were seeing all 115 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,000 the memes the next day. I'm also very curious too with 116 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,680 Instagram specifically if it's because reels have become even 117 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,240 more prominent and it's always feeding us stuff. 118 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,520 And I'm I'm very open with my heart, unlike you. 119 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,760 So I heart a lot of different things. 120 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,920 And so I feel like with the reels, it's such a mixed bag of 121 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,200 things. It's comedy, it's Mimi stuff, 122 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,160 it's TV show, a little tiny bit of bullet journaling, but like, 123 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,080 not a whole lot now that I really think about it, which is 124 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,920 kind of weird. Did you say maybe like that's 125 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,760 how you read the word meme or did you say maybe like MAMAY? 126 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,600 Yes, yes, Mimi. No, I don't say. 127 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,200 Mimi meme just like what was that? 128 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,760 No, I'm not that uncool, Jess. I definitely know a meme versus 129 00:05:57,840 --> 00:06:01,800 yeah meme, apostrophe, dash, whatever EY i.e. 130 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:04,360 Oh my gosh. I was like really worried. 131 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:05,800 I'm like, can't sit with us, Mark. 132 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,720 You can't sit with us. Get off the Internet, You don't 133 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,640 belong here anymore. Go back to Facebook. 134 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,000 I can't even remember what your point was now because I was just 135 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,880 so caught up on the idea of like, what was that maybe? 136 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,600 My point was maybe we're not being fed content because 137 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,960 Instagram is so real heavy and they just throw everything at 138 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,200 you to keep you on the platform and it's not always necessarily 139 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,880 going to be planner stuff. I think that's the thing right? 140 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,880 Is that I feel like the algorithm almost knows my brain 141 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,400 better than I know it. So even if I go in with the 142 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,880 intention of like, Oh yeah, I want to see planner related 143 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,160 stuff. I want to see stuff that's 144 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,520 supposed to inspire me for my journal or whatever. 145 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,640 But you spent 3 seconds looking at that frog, so now we're just 146 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,920 going to show you frog content for the rest of your days. 147 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,680 I'm like, damn it, I love frogs. I rely a lot more on Instagram 148 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,080 Stories now than I used to back in the day, especially when 149 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,160 there weren't Reels and we could see all of that. 150 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,160 I do it also because even for myself and anyone who does 151 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,760 follow me on Instagram and looks at my stories knows it's kind of 152 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,440 it's my personality. It's going to be some meme 153 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,720 things, it's going to be some planner things, YouTube, kind of 154 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,680 a mix of everything going on. But that's honestly where I put 155 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,360 a lot. And I also, that's where I see 156 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,880 most of those stuff as well. I think back in the day, it was 157 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,600 almost like a faux pas to put things on your stories that you 158 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,440 were also posting about. But honestly now you just have 159 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,600 to do everything you can possibly do to get anyone to see 160 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,960 your content with everything else going on. 161 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,240 I think my favorite use of stories was always your Sunday 162 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:32,880 shares or whatever it was. It was a Sunday. 163 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,400 I can't remember. Yeah. 164 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,840 I loved that because it meant that, you know, you're getting 165 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,800 exposed to new accounts and people who are creating things 166 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,280 and stuff, things that the algorithm might not serve you 167 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:43,720 up. And it was just like a nice 168 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,200 little kind of no. It felt like a flip book, like a 169 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,040 coffee table book, like, oh, I could just peruse the art of the 170 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,360 week because Mark has collated it for me. 171 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,920 Well, that's The thing is that I used to do that, but then it 172 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,800 started to kind of run dry. But it wasn't anyone's fault. 173 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,120 It's not that people weren't posting it, it just wasn't 174 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,680 automatically feeding me the content anymore. 175 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,520 And so it became harder and, and harder. 176 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,160 Honestly, that's like a testament, true testament right 177 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:07,040 there. Is it? 178 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,400 I used to do it all the time because I would have no problem 179 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,680 collecting things. But then it really, it's like 180 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,960 the well dried up and I was like, well, now I have to do a 181 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,080 lot of hard work for this. I have to search things out. 182 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,800 And then it almost felt somewhat curated because I would only be 183 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,200 looking up certain hashtag things. 184 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,440 But then they changed hashtags on Instagram too. 185 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,160 I think I'm just gonna backpedal into Instagram is actually not a 186 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,920 good place to find any type of inspiration anymore because 187 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,720 they're taking it all away from us. 188 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:36,600 Yeah, kind of, hey, like I was thinking about in terms of where 189 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,320 I'm getting my inspiration the most nowadays, and Instagram has 190 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,000 definitely taken a backseat in that kind of aspect. 191 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,840 Previously it was my go to. It was the one that I could kind 192 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,600 of rely on to have things that would be inspiring for me. 193 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,640 But nowadays it's more so YouTube. 194 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,880 And I think it's also because I like to see the process and I'd 195 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,640 like to see the process in a format that is horizontal, not 196 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,720 vertical. I think you also get more of an 197 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,880 in depth look of it a lot of the time because it's usually longer 198 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,400 format videos and such, so that kind of helps. 199 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:07,760 So when you are looking for things on YouTube, because I 200 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,360 struggle here a little bit, I'd love to have you expand a bit 201 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,080 more on the inspiration you're finding. 202 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,600 Because for me personally, just as a quick little intro to what 203 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,120 you're doing and how you're finding it. 204 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,960 I sometimes find it to be a little too overwhelming and time 205 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,200 consuming because usually it's a video that's going to be 5 plus 206 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,640 minutes. And when I'm looking for 207 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:29,120 inspiration, I think I'm more personally looking for elements 208 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,880 of something that I like versus having to watch a video I do. 209 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,000 I appreciate the process, don't get me wrong. 210 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,880 But I kind of want to see the finished product to see whether 211 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,600 or not I'm going to actually want to watch the rest of this 212 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,080 video or be inspired by it. So curious to hear your 213 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,240 perspective on YouTube as an inspiration spot. 214 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,720 Now, I completely understand the idea of just wanting to take an 215 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,880 element of it and that's why when it comes to watching videos 216 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,680 on YouTube, I am much more drawn to the people who actually talk. 217 00:09:54,680 --> 00:09:57,440 Not necessarily through what they're doing, but they talk in 218 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,640 their video because I use that as kind of an indication as to 219 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,160 when I should look up. A lot of the time when I'm quote 220 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,720 watching YouTube, not actually watching it, I'm doing something 221 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,400 else and it's kind of like playing in the background. 222 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,960 So I feel like I have company. Oh look, friends. 223 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:15,000 But by having that kind of like audio cue, I suppose to be like, 224 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,160 hey, Jess, you should probably pay attention to this because it 225 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:18,960 sounds like something you might be interested in. 226 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,760 I find that very helpful. So I don't watch any kind of 227 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,960 like music, only kind of content or ASMR content. 228 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,520 The heavy jeebies. I do not want it. 229 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,920 I don't want to hear you rustle the pages around and like 230 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,800 delicately RIP the paper. I know it's for some people, 231 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,880 it's just not for me. So when it comes to trying to 232 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,520 find these, like, you know, inspiration sources on YouTube 233 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,320 in particular, you've got about 8 seconds to hook anybody in a 234 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,760 video to start with. But if you start your 8 seconds 235 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,360 and you're not already talking, then I am already skeptical as 236 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,480 to whether this video is for me. I also like to be able to skip 237 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,760 to the end. Not always I will watch your 238 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,600 video, but I like to be able to skip to the end and see some 239 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,880 kind of a flip through. Because if I can, you know, 240 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,720 watch maybe about half a minute, maybe a minute of the video, I'm 241 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,760 like, I'm not too sure if this is actually gonna be for me, 242 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,800 then at least I could skip to the end, see if there's gonna be 243 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,280 something that's kind of like a payoff, I suppose. 244 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,040 And I'm like, alrighty, fine, you got me. 245 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,440 I'll go back and watch the rest. So your process here to fully 246 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,320 understand. So are you actively searching 247 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,280 out any certain terms or people or are you just coming in and 248 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,720 because YouTube knows you better than you know yourself, it just 249 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,280 already has it on that browsing page for you. 250 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,240 And then are you, this is like very like YouTube 101. 251 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,840 Like you said, you got 8 seconds to hook me, but what's grabbing 252 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,800 your attention first? I'm assuming that it's going to 253 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,880 be the visual thumbnail that's on there. 254 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,600 And like, what do you look for when you're like, OK, I need 255 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,000 some new inspiration. Like how are you going about 256 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,040 that? Yeah, I pretty much exclusively 257 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,480 watch like plan with me set up videos, whether that's a plan 258 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,600 with me set up in a bullet journal or a reading journal. 259 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,120 Sometimes I'll venture into the space of like other planners and 260 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,600 such, but because oftentimes those planners are, I don't want 261 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,800 to say that they're just stickering a page because I know 262 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,080 that's not all that it is. But it does seem to be very 263 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,680 leaning in that direction of like, here's how I decorate my 264 00:12:05,680 --> 00:12:09,400 planner rather than here's how I'm utilizing my planner. 265 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,880 If anybody has any recommendations of planner 266 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,120 content that is in a pre structured planner that is 267 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,080 actually a quote, quote actually about the planning, I would love 268 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,160 to hear it because I'd be very curious to see how they're 269 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:20,920 getting utilized. A lot of the time if I'm 270 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,280 watching planner planner content, it's really just seeing 271 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,000 what the structure of their layouts are because oftentimes 272 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,320 it's just mainly about decoration and whatnot. 273 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,080 I feel bad saying it like this because I know that there must 274 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,960 be people out there who are actually sharing how they plan 275 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,720 in a pre printed planner and I don't want them to be sitting 276 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,280 there at home like, oh, OK, I'm just using stickers. 277 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,000 I've just decorated kind of a thing. 278 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,240 Decoration is important. The planet doesn't look nice, 279 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,360 I'm not going to use it. So I completely understand. 280 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,680 But I think that in terms of trying to find inspiration from 281 00:12:50,680 --> 00:12:53,280 it, I'm not so much focused on the decorative element. 282 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,960 I'm really thinking about like, well, how are you using this? 283 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,040 How could I use it? How could I tweak it or change 284 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,400 it to make it my own? But I like to break things down 285 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,720 into their elements like that. I know that's not necessarily 286 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,560 something that comes super easily to everybody. 287 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,680 You asked about how I find it, though. 288 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,880 And that is kind of more so one, relying on the algorithm to know 289 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,440 me better than I know myself, like we talked about before. 290 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,160 Also, any kind of thumbnail that shows me kind of what the 291 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,800 finished product is in a way that it's like, OK, there's 292 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,360 enough visual appeal here that I think I'll get something out of 293 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,160 it because oftentimes you can't see the details. 294 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,920 You won't necessarily know whether it's going to be useful 295 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,800 in a functional way before you click on to the video. 296 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,360 That kind of makes sense. No, that makes complete sense on 297 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:33,400 it. One of the people that I know 298 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,200 that does kind of a predated planner, she does a mix of 299 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,720 everything is Julie from Julie's Plan, and I've always feel like 300 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,080 she does a really good job of breaking things down and how 301 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,680 she's using it. I know that she uses it for 302 00:13:45,680 --> 00:13:47,040 work. I know she has her kind of a 303 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,960 creative planner. I know she plays around and 304 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,320 fiddles with a lot of different type of stuff and she's one 305 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,640 person that I think consistently she kind of delivers that. 306 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,240 She posts so many videos. It's absolutely amazing. 307 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,200 I mean, from a person who's consuming some planner content, 308 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,560 it's great to be able to go on and be like, oh, something new 309 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:05,120 versus, you know, other people who maybe are posting once a 310 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,720 month or whatever their cadence might be. 311 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,320 It's really cool to be able to see that. 312 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,360 But that's one person that I was thinking about. 313 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,400 And for me, you know, I've never really thought about utilizing 314 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,840 YouTube as a copilot Co worker kind of thing, because I always 315 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:23,600 feel like I have to visually watch a YouTube video to doing 316 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:24,600 it. I mean, there are times that 317 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,960 I'll listen to like maybe some like news or things like that, 318 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,600 or like The Daily Show is a good example where like I can turn it 319 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,640 on in the car. I can't watch it while I'm 320 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,080 driving, but I can listen to it for the most part, get a really 321 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,400 good piece. But I always feel like with 322 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,440 planar content, I want like full focus on it because, you know, I 323 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,800 know that that's a visual piece. I need to see it versus hearing 324 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,640 them talk about it. But maybe it depends on the the 325 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,080 content itself. Yeah, I find monotasking in that 326 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,640 way very difficult, like just sitting down and actually 327 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,000 watching a YouTube video. I'm like, like even just sitting 328 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,080 here while we're talking, I'm like fiddling around with my 329 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,400 tweezers, which is a very safe fidget tool. 330 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,600 We talked about this before we started, but the idea of just 331 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,760 doing one thing and not having something else on the go very 332 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,560 difficult. It's like I'm watching a movie. 333 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,120 I'm also on my phone. If I'm watching watching a 334 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,640 YouTube video, I'm probably also working in my planner or I'm 335 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,800 editing a video or something at the same time, which is why I 336 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,880 need there to be that audio or like audio in a way that it can 337 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,680 be relied on that you as the creator are going to tell me 338 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,080 when I need to actually look at the screen. 339 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,560 Now that makes a lot of sense, and that thing is important. 340 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,600 I'll make sure that I say and give you cues as you watch my 341 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,360 videos moving forward to make sure that you know when to look 342 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,240 at what I'm doing. Thank you for thinking of me. 343 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,560 I appreciate your consideration. So while social media does make 344 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,120 for a great spot to find inspiration, and we've kind of 345 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,800 touched on Instagram and YouTube in particular, we're not even 346 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,680 going to touch Pinterest with a 10 foot pole because Oh my gosh, 347 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,800 like neck. It should be, could be, should 348 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,760 be an entire conversation by itself. 349 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,920 But where else are you trying to find inspiration for your 350 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,680 planning and journaling? So having a back on the design, 351 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,880 I've always been a big fan of packaging design. 352 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,960 So I actually will find inspiration in very odd and 353 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:02,160 weird places. So of course I will find it from 354 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,840 packaging that I'm getting in the stationary space. 355 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,440 Sometimes there's really cool pens like Baron Fig always does 356 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,600 a great job with their packaging design on their pens and their 357 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,760 notebooks and things like that. And sometimes they'll just be 358 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,520 elements of that that I'm like, oh, that's really cool, I like 359 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,840 that and kind of bring that in. I think maybe one of the 360 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,560 weirdest places I ever got it was from a shampoo bottle. 361 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,120 And it was like, forget what brand it was, but it had all 362 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,760 these like little hexagons on. It was probably trying to build 363 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,680 out like molecules of whatever type of stuff that's in the 364 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,080 shampoo. And I really like that hexagon 365 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,160 shape and like the interconnectivity of it. 366 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,920 And I remember taking that and taking a picture of a lot of 367 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,800 pictures in my camera roll of like weird things. 368 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,760 But it's all because I liked the packaging itself or something 369 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,840 from there drew me in. And so I remember taking that 370 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,160 and then that week for the bullet journal, I went ahead and 371 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,920 I just drew out like a lot of hexagons onto my spread. 372 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,400 It's like one of my favorite shapes to use in my bullet 373 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:58,560 journal too. I don't know why. 374 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,960 Something about it is a lot of fun, but just taking a look at 375 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,640 what's around you as you're walking through, maybe not 376 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,160 everyone does this. I feel like as a designer, I'm 377 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,359 kind of trained to kind of look at those things because either 378 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,200 you are designing those or you're looking at the world 379 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,560 around you to either get inspiration or see how other 380 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,440 people are doing that. So my eye is just always going 381 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,079 on. So if I see really cool 382 00:17:19,079 --> 00:17:21,000 packaging, I will pay attention to it. 383 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,920 Also, when my wife takes me to Home goods, it's a lot of the 384 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,200 times I will take pictures of a lot of things, especially like 385 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,120 during the holiday season, I'll take pictures of the bags, like 386 00:17:31,120 --> 00:17:34,400 different type of gift bags because usually those have like 387 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,680 very simplistic, kind of more geometric or like I'll say like 388 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,920 not super detailed icons or images on it. 389 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,080 So if you want to set up like a Santa spread or something on the 390 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,240 holidays, sometimes I will actually take pictures of bags 391 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,480 and stuff like that and kind of duplicate or replicate what was 392 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,840 on the package of that bag because it's easy enough to do. 393 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,960 Now it's cool way to think about it in terms of like the design 394 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,520 elements in particular, because obviously the people who are 395 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,840 producing these products, like they've done their reps, they've 396 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,240 got their trading in and they're going to capture the audience 397 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,160 type of a thing like because packaging and you know, it is 398 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,840 kind of like a type of branding and such. 399 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:14,400 So the development in behind that you can kind of rely on 400 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,320 somebody else's hard work to be like, OK, cool, I'm going to 401 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:18,920 like, you know, what is it called scrap lift? 402 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,240 I'm going to scrap lift your design and then put it into my 403 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,680 own journal, which is kind of nifty. 404 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,600 Oftentimes when I'm thinking about trying to find inspiration 405 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,360 for my journal, I'm usually not actually looking for decorative 406 00:18:28,360 --> 00:18:30,520 inspiration. It's more so thinking about like 407 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,440 structures and functional things. 408 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,720 So one source of inspiration that I used to kind of rely on 409 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,480 was the idea of graphic organizers, which is something 410 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,320 that we used in teaching, which was more about like how you can 411 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,520 kind of like layout information, connect ideas together so that 412 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,640 you can kind of deepen your understanding about stuff. 413 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,400 And I really want to go through my folder of graphic organizers 414 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,960 and try and translate all of those into bullet journal 415 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,920 layouts at some point. Haven't gotten there. 416 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,320 It's very much on the back burner, very future me problem, 417 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,040 but I always thought that was kind of cool. 418 00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:02,520 I also find that a lot of the time inspiration finding comes 419 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,120 from problem solving. So I'll try and, you know, 420 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,400 develop something in my journal for XYZ of a problem like, oh 421 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,000 gosh, I need to organize, insert kind of topic of information 422 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,120 here. Like how can I do that? 423 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:16,720 What do I need from it? Trying to kind of like unpack 424 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,440 the problem and consider how those elements can fit together 425 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,200 to make a layout for my notebook or for by kind of like planner 426 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,280 space that I'm using for that. That's really smart. 427 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,040 That's how I go about building out my bullet journals as well. 428 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,560 It's always about the functionality first and kind of 429 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,280 adding the layer over top of it. I think that it's something that 430 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,400 I've learned over time. I think we've talked about on 431 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,480 the past episodes where we had like our most failed spreads. 432 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,280 Those always were the ones where I was trying to duplicate or 433 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,040 kind of copy a style of someone else that was doing something 434 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,920 much more creative. And so it was like the 435 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,520 creativity came first and then the functionality for me came 436 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,120 afterwards because I was so focused on the design or the 437 00:19:53,120 --> 00:19:57,840 theme that I completely forgot about what I was doing on that 438 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,400 page. So it was just like, you would 439 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,240 get to the end and you'd be like, oh, I need a box that has 440 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,960 10 lines in it. And I'm like, oh, I didn't leave 441 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,280 myself 10 lines. I was too focused on using the 442 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,000 marker and like doing this design that was on there as 443 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,520 well. So I think it's a really good 444 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,040 tip. Also just super helpful too. 445 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,200 I did it this week also just in mind. 446 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,480 It's very basic kind of layout for me, but I was actually using 447 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,160 a ruler that had a bunch of different stencils in it have 448 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,040 like the curved edges and stuff like that. 449 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,600 And I was just like, oh, this could be cool to use some of 450 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,480 these shapes. I haven't done that in a while. 451 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,560 Yeah, I think when it comes to decoration, oftentimes I'm 452 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,600 inspired by the piece of decoration itself. 453 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,040 I'm thinking more so in terms of like stickers and washi and 454 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,640 things like that. Because oftentimes nowadays when 455 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,040 it comes to building out a theme for a monthly setup or whatnot, 456 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,240 I do just rely heavily on the materials itself. 457 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,400 So like this month I'm using this kind of like purple combo 458 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,280 pet tape thing. So beautiful, absolutely 459 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,480 gorgeous. But I just stuck with the two 460 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,840 tapes that come in the set and then picked colors that match 461 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,240 that and just ran with that that. 462 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,960 So it's like I didn't have to do a lot of heavy lifting in terms 463 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,720 of figuring out a theme or design because the decorative 464 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,280 elements are really doing that for me. 465 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,120 So I didn't have to put in a whole bunch of like time, effort 466 00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:11,600 and energy going and finding inspiration for that. 467 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,000 That being said, when it came to using those tapes, I was just 468 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,960 like, oh, do these actually go together? 469 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,440 Like I know they were part of the same set, but I don't think 470 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,200 that the decorative style is quite the same on both of them. 471 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,400 So I was humming and arring a bit. 472 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,880 I just went back to where the tape was from, which was the 473 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,760 Washi tape shop, and they actually, with a lot of their 474 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,600 new releases, put some inspiration pictures together 475 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,840 for how you can use it. And that was really great 476 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,080 because I can say like, oh, so these are some of the different 477 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,720 ways that I could utilize those things. 478 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,240 I don't know who's on their team making their layouts, but they 479 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,200 do an absolutely awesome job by combining different elements of 480 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,120 different types. They're like fussy, cutting out 481 00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:50,240 around individual elements and like layering together and stuff 482 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,640 and it's just really impressive. That's really smart of them to 483 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,360 do on a washi tape website to then provide inspiration because 484 00:21:57,360 --> 00:21:59,880 I think that's the hardest part why I probably so many of us 485 00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:03,080 have so much washi tape in our collection is we like the way 486 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,320 that it looks, but we're never really quite sure how to execute 487 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,640 anything with it. I had to grab one of my favorite 488 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,280 washi tapes when you were saying that because it has a Eric small 489 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,320 things design on it and it just has a lot of like little 490 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,640 stationary items. And when you mentioned that and 491 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,400 I was like, Oh no, I totally do that too. 492 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,280 Like utilizing your washi as a really good starting point 493 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,320 because in a way, and not all of them are this way, right? 494 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,720 But like it's kind of a theme on its own. 495 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,200 And then usually what I tend to do, especially when I use use 496 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,320 this one as I have a lot of the clear stamps with a lot of the 497 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,360 similar designs. So it's like in a way I'm 498 00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:37,560 pulling together themes. But it was inspired totally by 499 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,320 just like the tape that I grabbed first and then I kind of 500 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,280 built around it. So that's actually really 501 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:43,840 awesome. I never thought about that in 502 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,960 that perspective. I was like, actually I totally 503 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,000 get inspiration from these as I'm using them all the time. 504 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,760 Yeah, You kind of just use it as the central kind of element for 505 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,040 the theme and then build everything else around it. 506 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,840 So if we're thinking about like, I don't know, a washi or a PT 507 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,640 tape, like what kind of colors are used in there, what kind of 508 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,240 line work is used in there? Because you can build those into 509 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,360 other aspects of your setup to kind of continue the theme 510 00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:07,120 through. At least that's what I like to 511 00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:08,080 do. No, it's really smart. 512 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,520 It actually reminds me a bit of where I've also pulled 513 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,920 inspiration from as well. Anytime do I go to an Art 514 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,480 Museum, I'm also doing very similar things. 515 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,880 I take a lot of screenshots and pictures of stuff. 516 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,800 I'm realizing as I'm sharing this all with the intention of 517 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,920 reusing it later on if you inspire me for something. 518 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,960 A few years ago we actually went to DC and one of the museums had 519 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,560 an architectural installation. And I before I moved into design 520 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,480 and broadcasting all of that, I really wanted to be an 521 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,040 architect. I have a very sweet spot for it 522 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,800 in my heart, just out of appreciation. 523 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,760 And I remember taking so many pictures of everything, all of 524 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,600 the blueprints. One of my favorite things 525 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,000 actually, architectural handwriting is one of my 526 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,080 favorite types of handwriting. I in a way kind of modeled mine 527 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,240 after it a little tiny bit, but I've just always really 528 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,960 appreciated it. And there was one where it like 529 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,760 was breaking down a part of the building. 530 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,000 I forget what it was, took a picture of it. 531 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,560 And then I actually brought it back and in my bullet journal 532 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,360 for that week, like just created a lot of it was all like lines 533 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:06,400 and shapes and kind of interconnectivity pieces, but it 534 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,720 was just one of those things too where I was like, oh, this is 535 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,440 like really inspirational. So I think also if you're 536 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,360 looking for that, you know, drop the phone for a little bit on 537 00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:18,280 Instagram or Pinterest or anything else, and then just 538 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,320 head to a Art Museum if you want to and just kind of walk around. 539 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,480 And again, look at it from the perspective of trying to find 540 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,240 inspiration or things that you can pull into your journal or 541 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,200 your planners. Like walking around a sculpture 542 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,920 garden might not always be the same, but if you go to an Art 543 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,160 Museum, you might get something a bit different. 544 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,200 But then you do have to be specific. 545 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,000 I love modern art museums. I think those usually tend to 546 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,360 give me a lot because there's a lot of like minimalism in there. 547 00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:48,560 Or even with some of the more eccentric pieces that might be 548 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,240 in there, you can find cool stuff. 549 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,360 Full cool fonts, colors, all that kind of fun stuff. 550 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,560 Yeah, I do like the idea of using traditional art as an 551 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,280 inspiration source. Obviously, like nowadays we have 552 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,200 a lot of companies coming out with like the Van Gogh inspired 553 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,840 washi tape sets and all of that kind of thing. 554 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,600 So it's like, oh look, I can have Van Gogh in my planner and 555 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,760 I didn't have to paint a thing, which is my personal preference 556 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,520 because painting and Jess are like not like the best of 557 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:13,840 friends. Not really. 558 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,880 I just don't like the dry time. I'm lazy and I just want to be 559 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,520 able to close my book when I'm finished. 560 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,080 Yeah, that's definitely A1 page at a time. 561 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,400 Or you get a little heat gun or like a fan and you're like dry 562 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:25,600 as fast as you can. My friend. 563 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,080 I do not have the patience for this. 564 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,680 I just had the patience to paint this thing on this page. 565 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,760 I need to be done now. Exactly. 566 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,200 And it's like as soon as I get any kind of mess on my hands, 567 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,960 I'm like, no, it's over. I'm finished. 568 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,720 I'm like, do people paint with gloves? 569 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,800 I feel like that would be very uncomfortable. 570 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,440 But in terms of inspiration, like, you know, we said, you can 571 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,000 use traditional art, you can use social media, all of this kind 572 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,920 of thing. Another really great inspiration 573 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,320 source is just stuff you like. It's you're already enthusiastic 574 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,960 about it. It's got like a proven track 575 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,720 record. So if you're like really into 576 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,920 frogs, I don't know why I keep coming back to frogs. 577 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,000 Actually, I know exactly why I keep coming back to frogs. 578 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,160 Frogs. But anyway, if you're really 579 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,000 into frogs. Explain it though. 580 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,920 You can't leave us haggard like that, Jess. 581 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,920 I can and I OK, No, fine. So I was flicking through 582 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,000 Instagram the other day and I just like scrolling through, 583 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,880 minding my business and then a little a Mimi. 584 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:19,120 Is that what we call them now? A Mimi came up, a little picture 585 00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:22,120 came up that was effectively saying like, you know, lingered 586 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:23,920 on a frog picture for three seconds. 587 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,240 The algorithm's like, yeah, you little freak, I know you like 588 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,520 that. I'm just going to show you frogs 589 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,520 for the rest of forever now. I just appreciated it so much 590 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,680 because I'm like, that is exactly how the algorithm works. 591 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,840 As soon as you linger on a picture or a post or anything, 592 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,520 even if it's something completely outside of the realm 593 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,920 of stuff you usually like, the algorithm's like, I, I noticed 594 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,840 that. I got you, Don't you worry. 595 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,480 It's like MTV Cribs or whatever it was. 596 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,280 No Pimp My Ride. Hey dog, I heard you like 597 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,720 horses, so I put a horse in your horse so you can ride while you 598 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,480 ride kind of a thing. That's what it's. 599 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,320 Like the more and more we're talking about, I think Instagram 600 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,440 really just is not the place anymore for it. 601 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,760 I mean, I live on there. Like I feel like that's home for 602 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,800 me. But now I'm worried like, are 603 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,400 people even really seeing our stuff? 604 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,960 You know, unless we're really forcing it out there in 605 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,120 different ways, it's, it's just different. 606 00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:11,840 I don't know why. Yeah, just shove it down their 607 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,480 throats and they like also we're just going to change the square 608 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,600 ratio to a rectangle so haha your aesthetic feet isn't 609 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,680 aesthetic anymore. Suck it, creators. 610 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,280 I think we go about finding things that we like, though to 611 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,080 your exact point, I think we tend to gravitate towards them a 612 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,720 little bit more. You know, like I said, I've 613 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,720 always loved stationary as an individual from being a kid. 614 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,800 So yeah, when I find washi tape that has stationary on it, I'm 615 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,440 going to grab it when I find stamps or collections that have 616 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,040 it. I think that's why I like Eric 617 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,600 Small Things so much as that she's always using some type of 618 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,960 stationary or office item or something inside of her stamps 619 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,240 and her tapes. And that's why I like it a lot 620 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,320 because I feel like it's very just neutral and it's something 621 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,920 that everyone kind of likes. So that's why I collect. 622 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,000 That's my excuse of why I like her so much. 623 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,040 But it's the truth. Like just having those little 624 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,160 elements or something like that just make me want to use it more 625 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,240 versus maybe some of the more like decorated stamps that I 626 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,480 might have or like a lot of like trees and birds. 627 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,000 No frogs yet though. But now I'm intrigued to see if 628 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,640 I can find any. But those are like cool to have 629 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,000 if you can find a way to kind of sneak them in. 630 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,560 But it's not something that I feel like I could necessarily 631 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,560 build like a whole theme around in my journal. 632 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,720 Yeah, as soon as you said that you had a washi tape to show, 633 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,160 I'm like, it's an Eric small things one. 634 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,440 I just know, I know it in my soul. 635 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,320 And then you said I'm like vindication. 636 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:31,000 But I I do appreciate that, you know, you have certain brands, 637 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,080 creators or whatnot that they do very much have their own style 638 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,160 and it's very evident throughout their work, which I think can 639 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,920 also be very inspiring. It's also nice to see like the 640 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,200 match matchy same, same see of it in a way that's like not 641 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,240 necessarily exactly the same thing every single time, but 642 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,400 it's something that you can kind of rely on throughout all of 643 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,600 their pieces of work. I'm kind of thinking about like, 644 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,440 you know, Coffee Monsters Co Helen and her little emojis. 645 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,080 They're so damn cute kind of a thing. 646 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,280 And if I had the patience to draw them, I would put them in 647 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,240 my planner. And if I utilized stickers in 648 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,640 that way, they would be all over my planner. 649 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,880 But in terms of other inspiration sources, I think the 650 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,880 one that is actually probably the best from me personally, and 651 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,920 it's going to come off as Tooting in my own horn, but I 652 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,520 don't care because it's the one that I actually get the most out 653 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,400 of, would be the community. Like specifically my community 654 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,680 on Discord, mainly because we have all of these different 655 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,920 spaces and channels that kind of help me to sort through the 656 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,680 inspiration pieces a little more. 657 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,760 So it's like we've got our space for everyday journaling. 658 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,160 We have our space for long term collections for reading 659 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,640 journals, for media journals, for gaming journals or like 660 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,240 anything like that. And just scrolling through what 661 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,760 people are talking about, the pictures they've been taking, 662 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,920 sometimes they have little flip through videos or whatever. 663 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,880 So it's just really cool to see what I'm gonna say quote 664 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,640 everyday people are doing or like people who aren't content 665 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,440 creators are doing in their planners to make their planners 666 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,200 work for them. That is always really inspiring 667 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,960 to see. I also love that when the 668 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,440 community asks a question to try to help you solve it, it's like 669 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,280 that problem based creation that you mentioned before. 670 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,640 That's one of my favorite things where someone's like, I'm trying 671 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,080 to do this in my journal but I can't figure it out. 672 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,280 And a lot of the sometimes that'll inspire me because I'm 673 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,360 already working it out. My brain starts, you know, the 674 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,600 gears start moving. I'm like, oh, OK, here's how I 675 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,000 would kind of lay out the page. Reminds me of that, that Mimi of 676 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,840 I forget which one it is, the Sciency 1 where it's like you're 677 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,840 thinking and all the, like, elements and equations are kind 678 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,440 of going around. Yeah, that's exactly what 679 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,280 happens to me whenever someone asks me. 680 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,480 I hate that we're calling it a Mimi now that I called on. 681 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,960 So awful little frogs and their freaky little Mimis. 682 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,800 I can't. But that is always just a fun 683 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,560 thing for me. I remember I was working on an 684 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,240 Instagram tracker one time and I actually brought like community 685 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,720 friends in. I was like, OK, I it actually 686 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,480 involved hexagons and I was like, OK, I'm trying to do this 687 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:54,280 interconnected hexagon web essentially that had different 688 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,120 types of like tracking on it. And I remember kind of sketching 689 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,480 out the idea. And at this time it was plans 690 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,360 that blossom. I messaged her and I was like, 691 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,160 hey, I need your help here because you're a designer and 692 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,840 like we're all kind of the same vibe. 693 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,720 And I was showing her some ideas and Nicole was like, Oh yeah, 694 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,680 well, maybe you would like shift it this way or do something 695 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,520 different with. It was like a design collab 696 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,400 almost. It was really cool and by the 697 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,640 time I was done, I had something I was really proud of. 698 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,280 I've actually used it several times because after spending 699 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,280 that much time trying to figure it out, I was like, I'm using 700 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,480 this sucker a lot. But it was a lot of fun to do 701 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,920 that. I think sometimes just kind of 702 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,280 expressing the idea, not necessarily to know the 703 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,160 solution, but to get that from in the community is kind of a 704 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,280 weird way to get inspiration. But if you're just like, hey, my 705 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,800 brain has something it wants to do, I just don't know what to do 706 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,720 with it. That could even be a cool thing 707 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,200 just to go online and like read some people's problems. 708 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,840 I feel like, oh, here's how I would solve that. 709 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,400 And in a way, you have an idea for the future. 710 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,480 Well, maybe an idea. Yeah, I like this idea of like 711 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,600 collaborative based inspiration I suppose. 712 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,560 And it's, you know, even if you don't have the solution, by 713 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,160 voicing the problem, you can either give other people 714 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,360 inspiration because like, I didn't even think about how to 715 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,400 use a journal for that. They go off and, you know, their 716 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,120 own creativity can shine and such. 717 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,880 And then you get to be like reinspired by what they've kind 718 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,200 of produced from it. I had that happen with myself 719 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,160 and Tori have created mine coffee grinds. 720 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,640 So I had been previously making these kind of like project plans 721 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,280 for setting up my journal, I guess where effectively I had 722 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,680 like little swatches for the colors. 723 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,960 I had some notes about the decoration I was going to use. 724 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,880 I had a list of the layouts I was going to use and such. 725 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,160 And so I kind of fell away with using them. 726 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,280 But she thought it was going to be really helpful for her. 727 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,200 So she picked it up and started using it in her journal, which I 728 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,240 always very much appreciated. She'd always give me credit for. 729 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,160 And I'm like, you've used it for like 6 months now. 730 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,320 I don't think you need to tell people that it was from me 731 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:45,840 anymore because this is like your own thing. 732 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,960 But then with her using it and tweaking it to fit her personal 733 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,080 style and the things that she needed to organize, I'm like, 734 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,160 hey, that's a great idea. I love that. 735 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,040 I'm just like re inspired by this so that I started using it 736 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,200 in my journal again. So it's this kind of like little 737 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,720 inspiration cycle, which was kind of nice. 738 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,960 It's another thing I think about while we said like reels and 739 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,440 tick tock and all of that, like fast content isn't always great. 740 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,520 Sometimes though it does definitely help inspire you. 741 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,960 I just did a video last week where I redid this whole section 742 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,240 over here of pens and everything. 743 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,480 And it was cool to get some of the comments where people were 744 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,320 sharing like how they store and organize stuff. 745 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,960 But the people were like, you totally inspired me to like 746 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,440 clean out my stuff and edit down my stuff too. 747 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,720 And I don't always think about that as like being inspired by, 748 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,240 but it is like other creators that are just doing things. 749 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,400 I think it may be a good example of that because I guess it, I 750 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,840 don't see this inspiration, but I guess it kind of is by 751 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,880 definition is for me when I see people doing ink swatches on 752 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,640 Instagram and stuff like that. You know, Julia here does 753 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,560 amazing ones. I love her so much. 754 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,120 Alexa writes is another one. I talk about her a lot on this 755 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,000 podcast because her egg swatches are artwork. 756 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,680 I don't care how you put it. Someone could be like, she's 757 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,640 just put an egg on a page. But no, the photography is on 758 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,560 point. The the images are on point. 759 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,920 They're so good. But I was actually very much 760 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,000 inspired by her to do it. I actually asked her. 761 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,920 I was like, look, I've loved your swatches for a long time. 762 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,440 Is this like a proprietary Swatch mechanism that you have 763 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,800 for this? She's like, it's a plastic bag. 764 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,320 I was like, OK, She's like, yeah, you just put the ink on 765 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,280 your paper. You grab a piece of Saran wrap 766 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,400 or you grab a plastic baggie and you sit it over top. 767 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,280 Yeah. And then you finger the bag. 768 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:35,480 Oh my God why Why that way? Like of all the ways to worth 769 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,199 it, finger tap would have been fine. 770 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,159 Like just switch switch. All right, so you finger tap the 771 00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:43,320 bag. Great. 772 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,360 Next time that your ink's watching, think of me. 773 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,280 Yeah, Oh my God, this is not the only fan to count Mark. 774 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,120 We don't have an HR department, do we? 775 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,159 No, no. Should we get one? 776 00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:57,600 We might need one after this episode. 777 00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:00,360 Yeah, after the bad blood about the Mimi. 778 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,760 Yeah, but but that was just a really good example where I was 779 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,240 just like, this is really cool. She was kind enough to share it. 780 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,080 You know, I think there are some people that don't like to share 781 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,760 that because they have a niche thing that they're doing. 782 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,320 And I respect that. There's been a few people in my 783 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,920 past, not necessarily Ebola journaling, but especially in 784 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,560 like photography, Photoshop and things like that. 785 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:21,920 I was like, hey, how do you do this? 786 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,880 They're like, oh, I'm not telling you that. 787 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,840 Like this is my little secret sauce. 788 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,160 And I was like, OK, like I was like, I share all the time. 789 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,400 What do you mean you're not going to tell me about that? 790 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,920 I probably depends on what it is. 791 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,520 But I feel like especially though in the planner space, 792 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,120 though, we're all about sharing tips and tricks and how to do 793 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,720 things like that. So we don't see it as much here, 794 00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:45,280 but it's definitely something where, I don't know, I would say 795 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,920 for someone else, if you see something online that you really 796 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,400 like, like, you know, as a creator, I love when people ask 797 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,160 me questions about it and I'm always like, oh, sure, XYZ like 798 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,760 this is how you do it. Like definitely ask somebody. 799 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,440 I don't think there's any shame in that. 800 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,320 Again, you're doing it as a way to learn. 801 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,520 You're showing appreciation. Don't be like, hey, how'd you do 802 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,640 that without any type of, you know, give some of that 803 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,000 sweetness up front and tell us how much you love us. 804 00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:11,400 But the idea of I want to try that out because I think it 805 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,000 might benefit me is something that just brings me a lot of 806 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,560 joy. So that's also why I like to 807 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,680 reach out to people to show appreciation. 808 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,960 But also we talked about this last episode too, like being a 809 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,280 constant learner, always be learning new things or else you 810 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,960 just kind of go brain dead and stagnate. 811 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,040 You get bored. Yeah, boredom in my journal is 812 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,520 always something I'm on the lookout for, because when I 813 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,960 start getting bored, I don't use it. 814 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,360 When I don't use it, then I'm a scatterbrained mess. 815 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,960 And if I'm a scatterbrained mess, things aren't getting 816 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,680 done, which means that the whole system kind of falls apart. 817 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,960 I don't want that to happen. So constantly looking for new 818 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,600 things to try, constantly looking for new ideas, trying to 819 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,680 come up with my own new ideas and such with that, like 820 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,120 problems solving kind of aspect of planning that I like. 821 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,920 But I'd love to hear from the Planner Pals. 822 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,280 Where are you getting your inspiration from other 823 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,120 particular creators or the particular spaces that you're 824 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,840 looking at? You just kind of like, I know 825 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,720 hunting around in the back of your cabinet trying to find cool 826 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:04,840 packaging. Let us know either by leaving us 827 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,720 a comment here on YouTube or you can e-mail us at 828 00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:11,320 plannerpalspodcast@gmail.com. Of course, you could also hit us 829 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,600 up on Instagram at Planner Pals Podcast. 830 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,080 Regardless of where you hit us up, we want to hear from you. 831 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,600 100% and let's continue this topic for next times episode. 832 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,360 I want to talk more about creativity and the planner 833 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,440 space. You and I have both talked about 834 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,120 it and dabbled it in a little bit throughout last year's 835 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,520 episodes and talking about it, but let's spend a little bit 836 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,160 more time on that next episode. You know, we can share all kinds 837 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,440 of things like while we're getting inspiration online. 838 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,400 Then how are you then executed with that? 839 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,880 What type of things are you using to be creative? 840 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,360 And I think most importantly, what is that creativity doing 841 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,680 for you? Yes, it looks pretty, but I 842 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,400 think there's a lot behind that. So I'm excited to get more into 843 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,400 that next time, Jess. And hopefully with less 844 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,720 fingering bags. We'll see what happens. 845 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,680 I mean, it's a, it's an integral tool to your process mark, so it 846 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,400 must come up. Oh, it comes up. 847 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,200 Oh my God, thank you so much Plan of House for watching. 848 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,880 Hopefully you enjoyed this episode and we will see you next 849 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,240 time. Oh, my phone's ringing. 850 00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:07,480 It's our HR department.