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Welcome to the Planner Pals 
Podcast, a podcast hosted by two

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true planner pals. 
I'm Jess or Jessie Curran. 

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Hey there, My name is Mark and I
go by Mark your pages and we're 

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back for another fantastic 
episode of the Planner Pals 

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podcast where I can't wait to 
talk about today's topic as 

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we're wrapping up the year, 
talking about some of our 

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favorite things that we've had 
this year. 

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And we're going to kind of have 
fun with this. 

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We're going to talk about 3 
favorites, but you know, we 

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always have to throw in the 
thing that's like not working 

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for us very well. 
And I'm always interested to 

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hear just like what's not 
working for you because we so 

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often talk so much about like 
the things that we love. 

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Unless it's like something you 
really disdain, I don't feel 

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like we usually hear very much 
about like what's not working 

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because people usually like the 
positivity. 

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Yeah, no, that's very fair. 
I find that oftentimes things 

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that aren't working for me just 
like don't last in my collection

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very long. 
So the the window to talk about 

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them is quite narrow. 
Whereas the things that are 

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working, I'm just like, Oh my 
God, I want to rave about this. 

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I want to tell everybody, 
everybody should get on and use 

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these things. 
I'm very eager to hear about 

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what your favourites are. 
So kicking off, what would be 1 

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of your favorite things from EU?
Well, I think the coolest thing 

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I got to use this year was my 
notebook, the Marks notebook 

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that I partner along with Archer
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This was a dream thing to be 
able to do to be able to design 

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A notebook and really include 
like all my fun things that I 

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wanted as a part of it. 
I think my favorite part that I 

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got to use in there this year, I
called them the smart Marks, 

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which actually just allows you 
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your page both horizontally and 
vertically, as well as breaking 

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your pages up into thirds or 
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Right. 
And that was just something this

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year that just was so easy. 
I appreciate there's other 

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notebooks that do. 
I'm definitely not the first 

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person in the world to think 
about doing this, but to be able

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to include that instead of a 
notebook page numbers as well, 

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kind of all the things that I'm 
like Archer and Olive, If you 

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want to create a perfect 
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And then to be able to put that 
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And then to use it. 
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using it, I was like, crap, I 
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single size. 
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not something that I'm going to 
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that I can think of in the 
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So I felt like, oh, I should 
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maybe put it in a frame and put 
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that's such an achievement. 
So it's been very cool to be 

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able to use it this year and 
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Like every time I open my 
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that cover or and I'm like using
the little grids and I was like,

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I opened another Archer and all 
of the other day and they aren't

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there. 
I't like, wait, where are they? 

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Oh, that's right. 
They were only a part of the 

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notebook that I designed. 
They should really do that more 

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often. 
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There's something very special 
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you helped create in that way, 
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about, you know, bullet 
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such. 
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it. 
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ourselves. 
We set them up the way we wanted

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to and now we're using them. 
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notebook or like product itself,
having the hand in being able to

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bring that to the real world, 
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I have still got mine looking 
pristine, looking fresh, sitting

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on the very attractive notebook 
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can't use this. 
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It's too special. 
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about your notebook is that like
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making a notebook. 
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about it is that the marked 
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of like, what to call it, I 
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A buddy of mine said it in 
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He was like, well, clearly it's 
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You mark your pages, It's there.
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about that. 
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smart marks. 
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you know, symbols in it, 
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He's like, so smart marks. 
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And I was like, dude, you get 
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So I gave him, I bought him like
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I'm like, this is like your 
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Like you get this, This is 
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it's called. 
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I came up with the Mark 
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It just just made sense. 
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was really special. 
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I was like thinking still about 
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next because I still haven't 
decided which notebook I'm using

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next. 
I was like, I think it just 

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makes sense for you to use the 
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And I was like, but I don't have
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gone. 
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different maybe just because I 
have, you know, 99 plus other 

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notebooks that are there. 
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it got to say. 
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of like accessibility features 
and such in notebooks can just 

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be super helpful. 
And if you're the type of person

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who is consistently dividing 
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whatnot, having that little 
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you. 
I mean, like, sure, counting the

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numbers from like, you know, 1 
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If you're on it in A5, does it 
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all of those little bits and 
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You know, if you're in your flow
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or whatnot, you're not going to 
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math, even if the math is just 
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What's funny is that I relied on
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that I actually forgot how many 
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So on all my previous notebooks 
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cheat grid sheet. 
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And the other day I was like, 
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XYZ. 
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notebook and I was like, it's 
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I was like, why did I make that?
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because the most common sizes 
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And I actually went back to like
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another one of my favorite 
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well. 
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in the boxes. 
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Like I will never remember it. 
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that I didn't have to think 
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well. 
So my next notebook will likely 

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not have that. 
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CHEAT SHEET again for myself, 
which I'm excited about doing 

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because I love setting them up, 
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it easier for people because 
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do set up a grid spacing 
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it's set up, I'm like, cool, 
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I'm never going to look at this 
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me to have done it correctly. 
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anyways. 
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just as much of A persnickety 
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She, like, you know, was making 
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all of that type of a thing. 
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fine. 
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I wouldn't rely on it. 
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familiar with the ones that I 
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like column dividing, because 
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my to do lists and such, I do 
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page. 
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across. 
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gap between them because we like
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buffer. 
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note AB 5 or a square nowadays, 
it's like, OK, kind of like, you

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know, do the conversions like 
quick math in my brain to make 

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sure that I can commit that to 
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dimensions aren't all like skew 
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notebook, because that would be 
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My. 
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notebooks that it's the same 
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vertically. 
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have to use a page on it, which 
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save pages in a square notebook 
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But let's go into your next one.
Jess, what's one of your 

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favorite items from this year? 
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that a long standing goal of 
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goal was like, oh, I really want
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I really want to learn how to do
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I want to be able to make those 
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headers that people have in 
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And given the fact that I've 
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and haven't really done anything
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though? 
Do you want to do that? 

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Do you want to commit the time, 
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kind of just came to the 
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maybe we just let that dream go.
Maybe that dream was like a past

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previous version of you who 
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thing. 
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aspirations when it comes to 
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terms of still getting the kind 
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lettering without actually 
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letter forms yourself is 
printing headers for my journal.

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likedafont.com or 1001 fonts and
just kind of finding something 

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that I like the look of typing 
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printing them off. 
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regular paper, not only then do 
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yes, I have a cricket, but I 
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OK. 
But not only do you have to cut 

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them out, you then have to stick
them in and sticking in a whole 

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bunch of headers for like all of
the days of the month plus all 

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of your collections plus all of 
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anything like that. 
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So my favorite supply from this 
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paper, in particular vellum or 
like washy sticker paper because

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I like that it doesn't give you 
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if you were printing on a white 
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print on a white matte paper and
you're keeping it as white matte

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paper. 
I just end up being a little bit

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more in particular, just a 
little bit fussy about how I'm 

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cutting those headers out. 
So they have a very kind of 

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equidistant border around the 
entire of the letter forms and 

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such. 
I ain't got time for that. 

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I'm a busy person. 
There's a reason I didn't learn 

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calligraphy. 
I'm not now going to have to 

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learn how to use my cricket or 
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So like so precisely. 
So I'd rather just use the 

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vellum because it blends into 
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I can be a little bit a little 
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caddywhompus with the cutting 
things out and it doesn't 

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actually matter as much. 
Blended nicely, I get the pretty

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lot of forms, and I didn't have 
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You just triggered a part of my 
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dafont.com because that was like
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school that we would all go to 
to find like whatever font we 

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needed for it. 
I've I missed that font place 

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because I would use it so often.
I feel like now that I've 

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learned so much more about it 
and like using things more 

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publicly in a lot of the stuff 
I'm doing, especially like I 

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can't use it at work because 
it's all license or whatever. 

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It's a different world. 
I mean, in school was totally 

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fine and now even if I do stuff 
for like my wife for school or 

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something, I'd be like, maybe we
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there's uses rights for. 
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yourself though, when it's not 
for a business or just for your 

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notebook or whatever, like 
totally fine. 

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But it was just so funny to hear
you say that because I haven't 

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thought about that website in so
long. 

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I I would just wanted to say 
with the stickers, you know, 

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something that I've tried myself
is using that. 

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And I think it also does depend 
when you said like the washi 

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type or like the vellum, because
it's thinner. 

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I think we even put some of that
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though it doesn't, it's not 
horrible, but like if you get 

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like a weird light, you can't 
could. 

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It drops like a shadow on to 
your page sometimes and you're 

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just like, wait a second, did I 
write on there? 

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I do something wrong? 
Like finding that really nice 

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thin paper that can fit on that 
are almost make you feel like 

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it's a part of your page is 
really important. 

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I haven't tried it myself. 
And I was thinking this too. 

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How dangerous in the world would
we be just if we actually 

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learned how to use our cricket 
machines like fully? 

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I think that we would just be 
like the most dangerous people 

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in the world if we were just, 
you know, took 30 minutes to 

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learn. 
I know like full potential 

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unlocked big brain energy type 
thing because yeah, I'd be 

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unstoppable. 
That being said, I have used it 

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to make labels for like my 
kitchen containers or whatnot on

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the vinyl kind of, you know, I 
was going to say the vinyl 

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paper. 
No, not the vinyl paper, just 

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the vinyl, but cut those out. 
Stuff goes on. 

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I'm like, excellent, my work 
here is done. 

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And then my mom asked, oh, can 
you do something for me? 

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I'm like, yeah, sure. 
Cannot remember how I did that. 

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That's a that's a future big 
problem. 

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Sorry, Mom. 
I think I only used it like once

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or twice when I was big into 
like the distressed oxide inks 

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and stuff. 
I was like, I have a machine 

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that can make these stencils 
versus me buying them. 

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And I just remember like trying 
to find the right thickness of 

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it and cutting about. 
And then I was like, well, 

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great, now I have all these 
things. 

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I like literally, literally cut 
out one thing and I was like, 

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maybe next to learn how to make 
your own stickers like that 

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would be really cool to do. 
And then I was like, don't look 

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too difficult on to the next 
thing, something totally 

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different. 
Like, no, I'm not going to do 

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that today. 
The thing that I get with using 

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the cricket to like, you know, 
cut out the stickers, print the 

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stickers, whatever, is that it 
requires this really large 

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border around the outside of the
actual print area. 

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And I'm the type of person who 
like when it comes to my sticker

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paper, I'm very like, put it 
like a dragon. 

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We need to make sure we use 
every tiny little available 

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piece of space on this to print 
things off. 

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So when I make my sticker 
sheets, I'm using like corner to

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corner, edge to edge, like 
barely any space around the 

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outside wherever possible. 
So in trying to, you know, marry

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that preference with using the 
cricket who's like, yes, your 

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margin must be 5 centimeters 
around the outside. 

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OK, not that bad, but like kind 
of that bad. 

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It just makes me feel like I'm 
being very wasteful with my 

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sticker paper. 
And sure, it's a consumable 

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resource, like there's always 
going to be a little bit of 

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waste, but I just don't think 
I'm ready to kind of bite the 

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bullet on that level of quote 
waste for myself. 

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I know how you feel. 
I have one of those lean photo 

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printers, but it's a sticker 
cutter as well. 

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So like it prints out the photo,
but then you can automatically 

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put the cut marks around. 
It makes it so easy. 

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But the same thing I'll be like,
well, I can't fit two of these 

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on here because it's only like a
four by six piece of like 

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sticker paper. 
But I'll print out one thing and

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I have this whole other sheet 
and I was just like, what else 

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can I add? 
I don't like that. 

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I'm like really honestly feeling
like I'm wasting it as well. 

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I'm right there with you. 
I just feel like I want to use 

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every little bit of something 
like that, especially when you 

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like it so much. 
But I think you've mentioned 

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before, like one of the things 
you decluttered was your extra 

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sticker scraps saving space, 
right? 

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Because you soon realized you 
don't need to save all of it 

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because you're not going to 
actually use it. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, that being said, because

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I recently given the fact that 
it's a favorite supply, right? 

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You know, I've been using a lot 
and also just like regular matte

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sticker paper as well, 
especially for book covers for 

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the reading journal. 
I was printing something off the

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other day and made a mistake in 
my journal and instead of going 

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to my stash of sticker off cuts 
that I have, I went and fished 

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it out of the bin because it was
right next to me. 

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Like Jessica, it's like 5 steps.
Go to your collection, get the 

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ones that you specifically saved
for this purpose. 

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I'm like, you're not my manager.
You can't tell me what to do. 

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So I went dumpster diving for it
instead. 

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It's fine. 
The mistake is fixed, the 

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mistake is covered now. 
But like choices now, I did take

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a little Snoop at your list as I
was making mine because you were

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like, so on to it. 
This time you're like, no, I've 

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got my list. 
I know exactly what I love and I

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have my ones that I don't like 
and whatnot. 

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And I'm sitting here just like, 
I don't know. 

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So I kind of made a shortlist 
for myself, then realized that 

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your number 2 was one of the 
ones I'd written down. 

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So I'm like, OK, scrap that. 
Let Mark have his moment with 

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this, but go on. 
What's the second favorite item?

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It's my Archer and olive B5 size
ruler that I only use to measure

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out how many boxes are on my 
pieces of paper. 

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I rarely ever use the other side
or any of the stencils in the 

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middle. 
This was really cool because I 

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think this came inside of a 
subscription box, right? 

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The B5 size 1, it was an instant
love because it works for every 

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single notebook. 
So if it works in a B5, that 

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means it works for a square and 
works for everything below it 

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because the stencils they had 
before were for like A5 size, 

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right? 
And so you're like, OK, but then

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I have to like scooch my ruler 
over to get the rest of my line 

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if I'm using it or whatever it 
might be. 

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And I just didn't really love 
that. 

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And so this has been the best. 
The quality of this one was also

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much better. 
Like the very first one we got, 

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I think was just like cracking 
all along the lines. 

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I think that wasn't a 
subscription box like one of the

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very first ones as well when we 
got it. 

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And they've had so many 
iterations of these rulers over 

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time to like, I personally 
didn't love the the wooden ruler

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that they had think that was 
also in a subscription box. 

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Wasn't my the plastic wings are 
great, the metal ones, but like 

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this one has just been so fetch.
It's just been awesome to have 

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and just use and I use it all 
the time. 

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It kind of exactly like you 
said, like I already have the 

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measurements inside of my 
journals, but it's just so easy 

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to go. 
And I also just, I just actually

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removed three other rulers from 
my art cart because I always 

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grab this one because it does 
everything that I needed to do. 

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It's like, why do you need three
other types of rulers along with

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this one if you just have the 
one that works? 

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So this has just been my go to 
for everything. 

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I use it all the time. 
I'm going to be experimenting in

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another journal that isn't dot 
grid, but it's gridded. 

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And I was still like, well, I 
still need to know how many grid

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spaces there are in between my 
columns and rows. 

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And luckily it was a 5mm grid 
and just makes me so happy to 

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know that like it's going to 
workout and it's going to be the

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tool that I just keep using. 
I mean, eventually I'll probably

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use some of the the other things
inside of here, but for right 

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now I'm I'm all about just this 
top section that, you know, 

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measures boxes from 1 to 46. 
No, I 100% agree because when I 

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got that subscription box that 
came with the B5 size, I 

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genuinely considered getting rid
of it 'cause I'm like, oh, I 

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don't use the B5, why would I 
need this Foolish Jessica? 

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Because it is one of my most 
used supplies. 

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I absolutely love it. 
I don't know if they've actually

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released the B5 size on the 
shop. 

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I don't think so. 
I but one of the things that I 

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really value about the B5 one 
that we've got is that the side 

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is smooth. 
There is no notch in the middle 

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of it because that was one of 
the things that kind of, if I 

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had it, it would irk the ever 
loving heck out of me. 

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But on the A5 version, the one 
that they most recently 

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released, I don't know if 
they've fixed it since then. 

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It had a notch in the side of 
the ruler at the midway point, 

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which I love the idea of having 
a marking for the midway point 

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because they've got that on the 
B5. 

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Not that I use it because I 
don't use AB5 sized journal, but

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it is there. 
But if you're trying to use it 

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as a ruler, having a notch in it
means that you don't end up with

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a straight line, you end up with
like, what is that like curly 

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bracket? 
You end up with like a really 

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long version of a curly bracket.
Yeah, it is not my favorite. 

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I'm in the same exact mode. 
I totally forgot because I think

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one of them also had like 2 
divots in it, right? 

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You're the big one in the 
center. 

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I think I had two small ones on 
the end, maybe even. 

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But you're right. 
Like if you weren't paying 

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attention, you would go and just
like to do it and you're like 

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like Rd. bump, you know, it's 
like crap, like divot in the 

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ground and then you're like 
crap. 

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Well, I thought I just ruined my
page. 

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Or you would mark it out and 
then you have to flip the ruler 

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over to the flat side to use it.
Yeah, the marks on these are so 

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much better. 
I still don't pay attention to 

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the marks because just like you 
like I'm always just like, well,

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is this right? 
Or I don't need it exactly 

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there. 
Or you're in a square or A5. 

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You're like, this just works 
because I the same deal. 

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Like I have a really long ruler 
because that was the other 

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thing. 
Even the A fives, like they fit 

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within the squares, but they 
didn't cover your whole page. 

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So like if you really wanted to 
go across your page or fully 

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down your page, you had like 
move your ruler. 

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And it never is a straight line 
whenever I do that. 

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So I always had this like extra 
long ruler. 

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But this works out great because
I can make it work. 

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It really is. 
It seems like such a simple 

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thing, but like that quality of 
life, like good quality thing 

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that you're using makes such a 
big difference in your 

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day-to-day planning. 
It's going to be it's going to 

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be in use for a very long time. 
I hope they come out with it on 

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the shop soon. 
That's one of those things that 

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I feel like they should 
definitely if they haven't 

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already. 
Now I feel like a bad Archer and

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Olive fan. 
Like I feel like I should know 

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that. 
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they 

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haven't had the B51, but I do 
really love it. 

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I also love that along with the 
grid spacing you've got like 

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with the numbers and such, you 
also have the half box marks 

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because that can be quite 
useful, especially if you're 

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working in a journal size that 
requires you to divide 1/2 line 

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there if you know that's the 
kind of dimensions you're going 

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for. 
One of the things that does irk 

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me about it though, is that when
you flip it over and you've got 

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the centimeter markings, then 
not using millimeters, you've 

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like Americanized the metric 
system. 

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Politely rack off because no, I 
don't want a quarter of a 

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centimeter. 
I want 10 individual millimeters

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in my unit 10 system, please. 
So I went to use this the other 

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00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,000
day. 
I said the other day, the other 

445
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,920
day, could be anywhere from like
last week to like 3 years ago. 

446
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,360
So grains of salt here. 
The other day I went to use this

447
00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:44,200
to measure something out and 
like, why are all my 

448
00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,640
measurements so janky? 
Why is everything so off? 

449
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,320
And that's because they look 
like millimeters to the naked 

450
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:51,680
eye. 
And then you go and count the 

451
00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,720
spaces and there's eight of them
instead 10. 

452
00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:55,360
But other than that, I love this
ruler. 

453
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,000
I've never realized that. 
I just always assumed that it 

454
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,400
was just because if you have 
centimeters, millimeters make up

455
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,320
centimeters. 
So that would just make sense. 

456
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:10,160
So so I apologize for all United
States non metric system users. 

457
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,480
Actually have a loving heck out 
of me, but that's OK because 

458
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,920
typically speaking, if I'm using
this one, it is just for that 

459
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,520
grid spacing. 
So no harm, no foul, but I'm not

460
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,000
very impressed with that. 
Yeah. 

461
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,120
Well, so when they come out 
everyone, you have to get it. 

462
00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:27,920
It's really, I think, I mean any
type of journal that works. 

463
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,640
You know the one thing though, 
Jess, that this does do it will 

464
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,400
call out a journal paper if they
are not equal distances. 

465
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,560
I was measuring something the 
other day and for the first 

466
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,400
maybe 10 or so boxes, it was 
lined up. 

467
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,640
And then after that it slowly 
got off mark. 

468
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,400
And I was like, what is this 
garbage paper that I'm using 

469
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,080
right now? 
Like where is this from? 

470
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,120
Who do I have to call? 
I'm about to make a video about 

471
00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:52,680
this. 
Because Can you imagine like 

472
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,600
getting halfway through like a, 
a page and then suddenly like 

473
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,520
it's off and you're like looking
at it, you're thinking, is it 

474
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,480
me? 
Like, did I miss a spot? 

475
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,880
Or like something's not quite 
right? 

476
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,360
And you go back and realize it's
the dot grid on the paper that's

477
00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:07,760
the problem and not you. 
Especially when you have 

478
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,400
materials that are made to fit a
5mm grid, like if you're working

479
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,920
in a notebook that has a 4mm 
grid and like that's that thing,

480
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,200
that's a different kettle of 
fish. 

481
00:21:15,360 --> 00:21:17,680
What we're talking about here is
when they say all the packaging,

482
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,280
like, Oh yeah, my Docker 
channels 5mm, it's perfect. 

483
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,680
It's gorgeous. 
And you're like, haha, no it's 

484
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,800
not. 
You're skewed caddywhompus 

485
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,240
jankiness. 
And I don't want to use you 

486
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,320
anymore because now all of my 
measurements are just just 

487
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,400
enough off that I can see it and
it irks me. 

488
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,720
I don't love it when like this 
is OK. 

489
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,720
This is a complete aside. 
Similar idea is when you have a 

490
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,520
dock grid that doesn't line up 
across 2 separate pages and 

491
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,800
you're trying to make a layout 
where like one line goes the 

492
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,200
whole way across. 
So you're like do I just ignore 

493
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,000
the dock grid and rule through? 
Do I like break the line in the 

494
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,280
middle of the spread and then 
have them like on completely 

495
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,560
different playing fields? 
What do I do here? 

496
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,440
Similar things. 
Go wild. 

497
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:57,800
I think we got a notebook like 
that. 

498
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,320
It would remind me of like a 
flip book because you were going

499
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,360
through it and just look like 
the lines were dancing on the 

500
00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:03,520
pages. 
You were flipping through the 

501
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,640
pages. 
And I was like, and I will never

502
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,320
use this journal ever in my 
entire life. 

503
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,120
Like I cannot do that. 
It's OK. 

504
00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:12,800
I mean, sometimes I know 
bindings are a little bit off or

505
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,680
it's like slightly different. 
But when it is like a 

506
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,800
significant visible jump, I 
don't feel like, and I don't 

507
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,840
know how to mass produced 
notebooks, but I have a feeling 

508
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,800
that you can do a better job 
with that. 

509
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,200
It can't be that difficult to 
make sure that your lines line 

510
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,280
up. 
It's like when it gets to a full

511
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,960
row of dock grids away from each
other and you're just like, 

512
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,000
absolutely not, I can't deal 
with this all. 

513
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,160
Right, Jess, what's your next 
favorite item from this past 

514
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,760
year? 
So one of my biggest struggles 

515
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,440
this year has been surrounding 
sticker storage. 

516
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,080
I found that I was bringing a 
lot of stickers into my 

517
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,040
collection, but didn't 
necessarily have the best way to

518
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,760
store them, organize them, 
present them so that then future

519
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,960
Jess could actually find what 
she was looking for. 

520
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,440
So this year and maybe like the 
kind of tail end of last year, I

521
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,640
was on a quest to figure out the
best possible option. 

522
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,720
I tried a couple different 
things. 

523
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,320
They had different merits versus
different problems for 

524
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,360
themselves and such. 
But I did find a solution for 

525
00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:16,720
myself this year and that was 
using A5 sticker binders because

526
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,040
I love the five size. 
I have a fleet of five of them. 

527
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,960
They are all exactly the same 
binder. 

528
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,880
They have a really nice size of 
ring on the inside so that then 

529
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,440
I can fit ample amounts of very 
thin plastic pockets that I can 

530
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,280
slot all of my stickers into. 
When it came to the plastic 

531
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,280
pockets, I got a range of sizes 
because you know, different 

532
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,920
stickers, different sticker 
sizes, different sticker sheet 

533
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,640
sizes and such. 
So having some options to play 

534
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,040
with depending on what kind of 
stickers I was trying to store, 

535
00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:45,280
that was really useful. 
But I didn't want to have to 

536
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,680
then go and buy like different 
binders is to sort different 

537
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,240
size pockets. 
So all the pockets like in terms

538
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,840
of their dimension, the outer 
dimension are the same. 

539
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,160
They are all very uniform, 
matchy, matchy. 

540
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,800
And then they just have 
divisions within those pockets 

541
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,160
to help me store different 
things. 

542
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,200
So I have one that is like 1/4, 
so it's like divided 

543
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,840
horizontally and vertically. 
I have another one that is 

544
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,040
halves, so that's just divided 
horizontally. 

545
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,560
And then one that's just a full 
A5 pocket, which is really good 

546
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,280
for those like A5 sticker sheets
that you get from different 

547
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,000
places. 
But in the fact that I have as 

548
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,800
many as I do, I knew I needed to
have a little bit more 

549
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,160
organization than just like 
here's my fat stack of stickers.

550
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,400
So in having my 5 different 
binders, I have one that's for 

551
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,200
everything kind of plant related
and nature related. 

552
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,960
One for inanimate object that is
not plant related because that 

553
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,400
would go in the plant related 
one. 

554
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,200
I have one that's for like 
sceneries and scapes. 

555
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,120
So that could be like a 
landscape or it could be a 

556
00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:42,600
building or even door frames and
such. 

557
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,080
Though I think I might put the 
door frames in the inanimate 

558
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,640
object one. 
But anyway, it's cool. 

559
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,160
At least I only have two places 
to look as opposed to having to 

560
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,720
look through the whole stash of 
stuff. 

561
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,000
I've got one for characters and 
one for something else, 

562
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,400
something like that. 
I think it's just called like 

563
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,840
scrapbooking type things because
it's kind of inanimate objects, 

564
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,080
but they're all made to like 
look similar to layered papers 

565
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,000
and whatnot. 
But just being able to take the 

566
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,480
swamp of stickers that I had my 
very large and ever growing, it 

567
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,600
seems collection and have a 
little bit more organization and

568
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,760
a system that can still grow. 
It still has space to put more 

569
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,960
stuff in it if I want to and 
then have like, you know, my 

570
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,680
back catalog of the plastic 
pocket so I can just pull those 

571
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,600
out as I need them. 
Very peace inducing, makes Jess 

572
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,600
very happy. 
So I'm so pleased to actually 

573
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,760
have a system now that works for
that because it was getting a 

574
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,640
little out of hand. 
I feel 100% unless I actually 

575
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,680
just did something very similar 
for flake stickers because I 

576
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,840
realized I had a lot of flake 
stickers and I actually bought 

577
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,480
something similar to what you're
talking about. 

578
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,120
The pockets were actually for 
coin collecting. 

579
00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:43,280
So I think there's maybe 9 
individual small pouches and it 

580
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,560
also like kind of folds over 
itself too. 

581
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,400
And then I was able to kind of 
distribute a lot of those into 

582
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,120
those pouches, which I love. 
The problem is, is that I didn't

583
00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:54,680
do that for my sticker storage 
because I bought into a 

584
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,000
company's system which was a 
disk bound with like the pull 

585
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,000
out pages, similar type thing 
and it and it works, but it got 

586
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,720
very thick very fast. 
Not something that I thought 

587
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,800
about, even though I bought like
the three inch rings for it to 

588
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,240
like disc bound into or 
whatever. 

589
00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:14,520
I realized that I've been mixing
disc and rings because I know 

590
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,160
those are two different things, 
but I say them as if they are 

591
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,760
the same. 
But I bought the three inch 

592
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,720
discs and yeah, it's a big guy. 
And then I was just like, well, 

593
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,720
how deep do I want to go into 
this? 

594
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,760
Because now I'm thinking about 
what you're talking about 

595
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,160
because a lot of the sizes of 
the stickers for the most part 

596
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,840
are similar to a photo pages, 
right? 

597
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,040
I'm pretty sure like what yours 
probably for photo pages. 

598
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,320
And then you can just kind of 
pop in what you need. 

599
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,800
And to your point, which makes a
lot of sense too, is then you 

600
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,200
can like reorganize them. 
And when you get to a point 

601
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,360
where you have more than a 
binder full and you're like, OK,

602
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:51,000
now what do I do to be able to 
clip them out and put them in, 

603
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,640
but know that they're still 
together makes a lot of sense. 

604
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,360
So I think that was super smart.
I mean, I kind of bought in, I 

605
00:26:57,360 --> 00:26:59,240
spent the money. 
So I'm like this just going to 

606
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,920
have to work for now, but I'm 
really, really loving the binder

607
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,000
option too because similarly I'm
like, OK, where did I put those?

608
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,800
Is it in this binder for this 
solution that I made or this 

609
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,960
leaf insert thing that I made 
for this? 

610
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,000
I should have just, I, I 
probably will just consolidate 

611
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,920
it down into one, but good for 
you just for thinking through 

612
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,120
it. 
We both know that I don't think 

613
00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:22,920
things through like this. 
Like I still laugh every time I 

614
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,440
think about my drawer 
organization and buying all of 

615
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,440
it and seeing if it works and 
you're like, no, no, no. 

616
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,080
You go to the store with the 
piece of paper and you see what 

617
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,000
fits there. 
I'm just like, we are two 

618
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,560
different people when it comes 
to that kind of stuff. 

619
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,880
Yeah, I think that my stick 
storage and the solution finding

620
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,400
for that, like it's one of those
things that I had to kind of 

621
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,240
learn as I went. 
So originally I bought myself 

622
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,080
some binders for it 'cause I'm 
like, Oh yeah, I think that this

623
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,880
could work. 
I got a couple binders from 

624
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,640
Archer and Olive that came with 
these kind of very shiny plastic

625
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,920
kind of pockets. 
But the issue that I had with 

626
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,680
these, which OK, let's talk 
about the benefits of this. 

627
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,560
I like that it comes out on the 
side like it's got a little 

628
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,680
zipper or whatnot, so you can 
zip it off or whatnot. 

629
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,920
So then the stickers can't fall 
out the top or anything. 

630
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,920
They actually close. 
That's nice. 

631
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,640
But the issue I found with these
ones is that these, although 

632
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,280
they're thin ish by themselves, 
as soon as you start to put 

633
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,000
multiple into one of those 
binders, the little plastic 

634
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,360
nubbin that actually closes it, 
that stacks out really fast. 

635
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,040
And thus because they get really
thick in that very specific 

636
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,840
spot, you have to organize the 
plastic pockets so that some of 

637
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,520
them unzip downwards and some of
them unzip upwards so that then 

638
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,120
when they're closed, you have 
like half of them up and half of

639
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:39,960
them down. 
And I'm like, absolutely not. 

640
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,400
I could not handle the channel. 
So I decided that that solution 

641
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,560
didn't really work. 
But moving to the plastic 

642
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,560
pockets that are a lot thinner, 
they all open at the top so you 

643
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,920
know exactly where to go to like
get your stickers out. 

644
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,880
They don't have a closing or 
anything like that, so they're 

645
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,560
not adding extra bulk in that 
way. 

646
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,880
But I'm like, they are binders. 
I'm primarily storing them 

647
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,680
vertically on the shelf type of 
a thing. 

648
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,320
So if they're all opening at the
top, for the most part, the 

649
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,520
stickers aren't going to fall 
out. 

650
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,800
The only time that they might 
fall out is if I am being 

651
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,320
particularly aggressive with 
flipping my pages or I've like 

652
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,200
overfilled the bottom section 
because then everything in the 

653
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,560
bottom kind of like that stack. 
And then everything at the top 

654
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,600
is kind of like a little bit 
like skinny mini. 

655
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,960
So then you've got that lane 
going and things that just kind 

656
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,320
of like going downhill. 
You're like, no, my stickers. 

657
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,680
Why? 
There has to be some like 

658
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,800
perfect solution that we just 
all haven't figured out yet 

659
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,440
about it because there's just so
many pros and cons to sticker 

660
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,960
storage. 
When you get into it, you know, 

661
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,000
it's like someone will say, oh, 
use those like sticker books, 

662
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,160
but I'm like, then I have to 
peel every sticker off to them, 

663
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,560
put it into the book. 
Yes, it saves space. 

664
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,120
Yes, it makes it all uniform, 
but I'm like using a sticker 

665
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,240
before the stickers ready to be 
used and in my brain it's like, 

666
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,640
Oh no, now it's not going to 
stick as well because you 

667
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,280
unstuck it from its original 
home into something else. 

668
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,960
I know that's not true, maybe it
is, I don't know, but there is 

669
00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:02,400
just so many different sizes and
there's no uniform size. 

670
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,400
I think that's also the really 
big thing and why I like your 

671
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,640
solution too because like we 
said, they come in all these 

672
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,600
different sizes and instead of 
trying to buy a system for that 

673
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:16,200
one size, you can just make them
work inside of what you have. 

674
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,720
It is hard. 
I thought about it too, like why

675
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,240
do they all need to come out of 
the top or some of mine slide in

676
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,840
from the side as well to hold 
on. 

677
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,560
And I'm thinking like, OK, 
what's the scenario in which 

678
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,320
this fails? 
And most of the time with the 

679
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,880
top loaded ones is like if it 
falls off of my bookshelf when 

680
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,680
I'm grabbing it, but that 
doesn't really happen. 

681
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,440
I have a pretty strong hold on 
it, but my brains always like 

682
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,240
what if it turns upside down and
then every sticker you own flies

683
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,920
out all over the floor? 
Like I know it's not not 

684
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,720
realistic but but it could 
happen. 

685
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,720
Technically speaking, that was 
one of the issues that I had in 

686
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,600
a previous system. 
So one of the things that I 

687
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,120
first got when I was trying to 
organize my stickers was an A4 

688
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,240
size or kind of like almost 
letter size type folder. 

689
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,400
Because I was thinking, Oh yeah,
this will be like the one and 

690
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,280
done one to rule them all. 
I'll put everything in here. 

691
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,600
So it had very large plastic 
pockets that had either 1/4 

692
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,240
divide, which was like kind of 
photo sized by that point, or a 

693
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,120
six way divide. 
And I was like, Oh yeah, 

694
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,560
individual small sticker sets 
can and sit in those. 

695
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,840
But the problem with the Six 
Divide is that once you put in a

696
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,600
little pack of stickers that 
actually bulks up quite a bit, 

697
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,920
and then they can't be held 
securely in the folder. 

698
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,720
So I'd have to very gingerly 
turn the pages in that one and 

699
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,480
make sure that I'm being very 
careful with it. 

700
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,480
Otherwise they would just all 
splay out the top. 

701
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,840
You turn a page and then it's 
like, oh look, little potion 

702
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,920
bottle stickers all over my desk
now. 

703
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,600
Yes, that happened multiple 
times. 

704
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,440
It's, it's, it's hard when that 
happens. 

705
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,680
You're just like, I'm doing my 
best to organize all of the 

706
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,360
spend the time, do the right 
thing. 

707
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,960
It's just that one little 
mistake. 

708
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,440
It's like when static works 
against you, like usually you 

709
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,080
know, something static clung in 
there and you're like prying it 

710
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,680
out. 
And then other times it's like 

711
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,680
the opposite where it's like, 
get out of here. 

712
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,320
I don't want you in your little 
home. 

713
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,040
Like you're up, you know, using 
2 opposing magnets. 

714
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,400
You're like, I just want my 
stickers to be organized, damn 

715
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,800
it. 
Yeah, you know, right, it's not 

716
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,000
too much to ask for, but I think
that the solution I have now has

717
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,120
been very pace, interesting, 
very pleasing. 

718
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,160
And I think that it's probably, 
I never want to say it's the 

719
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,640
final form, my sticker 
organization, because inevitably

720
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,520
I'll find something that irks me
just enough to jump ship and do 

721
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,800
something else. 
But for now it is working. 

722
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,720
What would be your third 
favorite item? 

723
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,600
We know that I couldn't go into 
any episode without talking 

724
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,520
about fountain pens, Jess. 
So I know, right? 

725
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:34,160
But this is a pen that I'm going
to say I have to figure out the 

726
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,240
right way to do this because 
people are going to get very 

727
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,880
excited and then I feel like 
they're going to get very not 

728
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,440
excited about it. 
So this year I invested into a 

729
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,680
Waterman Careen. 
It is a beautiful pen and it has

730
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,760
the coolest looking like 
integrated nib in it. 

731
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,920
It writes like a ballpoint pen, 
right? 

732
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,440
A lot of people who don't like 
fountain pens because they're 

733
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,000
scratchy or kind of pointy or 
whatever they are don't like it.

734
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,200
But the nib on this actually 
kind of looks like a ballpoint 

735
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,080
pen on it and it and it writes 
beautifully. 

736
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,440
All right, everyone, you hold 
on, just get ready to clutch 

737
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,840
your pearls. 
This pen on sale right now is 

738
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,760
$324.00. 
So it's a very expensive pen 

739
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,880
because usually it's over a 
$400.00 pen. 

740
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,160
Mark, that's so much sushi. 
It's a lot of sushi. 

741
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,760
I mean, it's literally like a 
whole tuna. 

742
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,680
But it's one of those things 
where, and I say this, it's hard

743
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,560
for me to say this too. 
I, Jess and I are going to be 

744
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,640
doing an episode, just a little 
preview about overconsumption. 

745
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,240
Just a just a little heads up on
that in the future. 

746
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:39,440
I feel bad when I say because I 
have so many pens, but like I 

747
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,440
say this, that like if you're 
going to invest in a pen and you

748
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:48,400
are going to spend a lot of 
money on a pen, I honestly can 

749
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,840
full heartedly say that this 
would be in my opinion, one of 

750
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,080
the best pens to invest in when 
I let it leave my house. 

751
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,040
No do I take this to work with 
me when I go to work? 

752
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,560
No, like this is the pen that 
literally stays in my office in 

753
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:07,240
my I have a special pen holder 
for it when I'm using it because

754
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,880
I don't want to like lose it. 
I lost the dot marker on my desk

755
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,880
somewhere earlier today. 
Just I can't find it. 

756
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,920
I don't want that to happen to 
my pen, but this is just one of 

757
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,800
those pens again where people 
talk about it. 

758
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,639
They, you know, everyone does, 
but I'm the, the person then 

759
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,880
too, like many people where I'm 
like, but I can't spend that 

760
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,840
much money on a pen right now. 
I also have a very special 

761
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,320
situation where like I get store
credit for affiliate sales and 

762
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,800
stuff like that. 
So I save up on those. 

763
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,120
And this was one of those pens 
where I saved up for quite a 

764
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,280
long time and hit that I was 
like, and now I'm going to get 

765
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,480
it and I don't regret it at all.
And actually like now using it. 

766
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,000
This would be a pen if I was 
going to buy it for myself 

767
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,440
because I've bought more 
expensive pens than this, 

768
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,000
believe it or not, but there 
are, you know, handmade, you 

769
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,040
know, by people. 
So I'm like, oh, craftsmanship, 

770
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,199
I have to it's fine. 
But like this is when I would 

771
00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:58,560
spend that money on because it 
writes really nicely. 

772
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,720
It does really feel like a 
ballpoint pen when you're 

773
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:02,880
running with it. 
And the design of it is so cool 

774
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,280
too. 
Like I'm so used to fountain 

775
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,320
pens having like the extra thing
you screw in like this is like 

776
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,360
integrated into the pen itself. 
I don't even know how you would 

777
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,280
ever change it or if you damaged
it, like I don't know what you 

778
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,160
would do. 
I don't I'm not even going to 

779
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,080
think about the negativity. 
But if you are looking for a pen

780
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,760
and you want to like maybe ask 
for it for the holidays or 

781
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,760
something, I think this is a 
really good one. 

782
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,680
I have a lot of favorite pens. 
Y'all know this but this has 

783
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,960
definitely been one of my 
favorites this year and I've 

784
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,120
used it very often, which I 
can't say for all of my pens 

785
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,000
because I have a lot. 
Yeah, I love the point about, 

786
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,920
oh, you know, if you damage it, 
I don't know what you're doing. 

787
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,560
Like you would get out an 
insurance policy on that pen 

788
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:40,600
mark. 
Oh my gosh. 

789
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,920
I know it is. 
It's hard when I like really sit

790
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,800
back and like say a price of a 
pen because I have a few pens 

791
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,040
that cost a lot of money that 
like a brand has sent me and I 

792
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,560
didn't know a lot about them at 
first. 

793
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,360
I have one that is amazing. 
It's made out of titanium, so 

794
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,800
like it's a nice one. 
And I remember getting it and I 

795
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,560
was like, oh, which one is this?
I looked up online and I saw the

796
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:09,560
price and I like almost I like 
laid it very gently back inside 

797
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,080
of the perfectly like cushion 
pillowed case that it came into.

798
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,720
And I was like, I am not I am 
not the person to be owning a 

799
00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:19,520
pen like this or holding this 
type of pen. 

800
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,840
Like whoever said, trust me with
this, you know, but I'm just 

801
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:27,960
like, OK now, like it's OK, but 
it really is like finding those 

802
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,000
pens that are that are just like
a really good fit. 

803
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,880
I'm sorry on the price everyone.
I wish, I wish I could offer you

804
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,080
a pen that cost the last that 
wrote as nice as this pen, but I

805
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,360
just haven't come across one. 
Like it really blew my mind. 

806
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,800
Whereas I'm over here just like 
AI, like my mark on. 

807
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,840
It's great. 
It's not a permanent pen, but 

808
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,960
it's still pretty good. 
I know that's why I feel bad 

809
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,240
talking about it. 
Like I, I'm always just like, 

810
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:54,800
this is my favorite pen. 
Then I'm like, oh, by the way, 

811
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,720
heads up, you're, you're putting
down A to buy this. 

812
00:36:57,720 --> 00:36:59,840
I'm sorry. 
But if you're looking, if you 

813
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,240
have the funds to do so, it's 
worth it. 

814
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,720
Do you want to hear a fun story?
I think it'll make you happy now

815
00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:08,040
as you're sad about the price of
your pen and trying to encourage

816
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,880
people to spend. 
I'm kidding, but I as a 

817
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,800
procrastination tool yesterday 
cleaned out Iris. 

818
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,320
So she's almost ready to accept 
newing. 

819
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,600
She needs to be like fully 
cleaned out because there's that

820
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,840
little gap that's always there. 
You can't get the last little 

821
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,240
bit out. 
But I'm like, I'm going to suck 

822
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:28,320
up black ink into this. 
So like, does it matter? 

823
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,440
But yeah, I finally did it. 
I'm so proud of you. 

824
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:37,160
I love it though, because I was 
like, you know, there's like the

825
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,040
tiniest amount of ink left in 
there. 

826
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,120
And I know that you told me 
about the, you know, the 2 water

827
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,880
cup system or whatever. 
You know, you suck it up, you 

828
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,040
spit it out. 
No, OK, I couldn't do that. 

829
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,240
But I'm just like, oh, I don't 
have a water container that I 

830
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:51,240
don't mind getting stained. 
So I just went and used my sink.

831
00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:53,280
I'm like, yeah, because that's 
the solution. 

832
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,680
Like let's not stain the water 
cup. 

833
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,680
Let's stain the sink. 
The sink is not stained. 

834
00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:58,160
It's fine. 
I'm not that much of an egg. 

835
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,440
Well, I'm, I am that much of an 
egg, but not this time. 

836
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,280
So sucking it up, spitting it 
out, sucking it up, spitting it 

837
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,960
out. 
I'm like, oh, no, all the TikTok

838
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,520
croc, it was so beautiful. 
It was like, it was like a like 

839
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,880
a saga. 
We kind of washed the nib out 

840
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,240
and the ink was blue and then we
sucked the water up and spat it 

841
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:17,920
out and the ink was green. 
I'm just like, I didn't know you

842
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,760
had so much potential left in 
you. 

843
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,920
I'm so sorry, but it's gone now.
Wash down the sink. 

844
00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:24,840
That's the fun part about inks. 
I have an. 

845
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,920
Ink that when you write with it,
it's like this really nice green

846
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,280
color and then when you dip it 
in water, it turns the water 

847
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:36,480
into like toxic sludge. 
Like it is the most neon E like 

848
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,880
it looks like something I don't 
know if you remember teenage 

849
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,200
Mutant Ninja Turtles like from 
back in the day, but like 

850
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,640
whatever God is got all over 
them and like turns into that. 

851
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,560
And I'm like this looks like 
something out of like The 

852
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,800
Simpsons. 
You know where I'm like this is 

853
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,040
like a cartoon. 
It's so neon E sludgy looking 

854
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,360
and I'm so like, but that's not 
the color that comes out of this

855
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,080
patch. 
Like what's up with this? 

856
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,240
Yeah, that was quite interesting
for me. 

857
00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:01,880
Because I'm like, you know, 
riding with it on paper, it's 

858
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,960
this really kind of nice teal 
green kind of color. 

859
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,360
So you know that there's going 
to be blue and green pigments in

860
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,440
there. 
Like, that makes sense. 

861
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,440
But just washing out the nib, it
was like aggressively blue. 

862
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,480
And I was just like, who changed
my ink already? 

863
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,560
This is ridiculous. 
All right, Jess. 

864
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,280
So that was my last favorite. 
Thing before we go into the 

865
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,720
things that we weren't as big a 
fans of this year, what was your

866
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,600
third item that you were a big 
fan of? 

867
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,640
So in terms of paper, it's 
often. 

868
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,320
Sometimes it comes from problem 
solving. 

869
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,320
It's like I have a need, I have 
an issue. 

870
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,320
What's the solution? 
And one of the needs or issues 

871
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,640
that I have had for pretty much 
as long as I have been 

872
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,080
journaling is how to lay out my 
pages. 

873
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,400
Like how to make sure that 
things fit properly, make sure 

874
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,760
that then I have the space for 
decoration and the functional 

875
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,200
stuff and all of that type of 
thing. 

876
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,560
And when I first got started, 
and for quite a while, I would 

877
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,520
just pencil things out, you 
know, measure out the boxes, put

878
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,840
in pencil markings for myself, 
sometimes even scaffold layouts 

879
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,880
out in full in pencil, and then 
essentially double the amount of

880
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,800
time I have to spend setting it 
up. 

881
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,600
He's like who? 
Draw it all out in pencil, now 

882
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,600
draw it all out in pen. 
Now wait for the pen to dry. 

883
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,360
Now erase it. 
Oh, no, you didn't wait long 

884
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,680
enough. 
Now everything is smudged. 

885
00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:09,000
Everything is sadness. 
But in trying to move away from 

886
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,360
that kind of system, which would
cause me much heartache and 

887
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,920
pain, I decided that I wanted to
start planning my layouts out 

888
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,720
digitally. 
Because then you can chop and 

889
00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:19,440
change things. 
You can move stuff around. 

890
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,960
You don't have to pencil things 
in, which means you're not 

891
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,840
doubling up on that time, and 
you don't then have to erase the

892
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,560
pencil and risk. 
Smudging things because that's 

893
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,000
that's not the business. 
It's not fun. 

894
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,240
Yes, we have mistake fixes, but 
it doesn't mean that we want to 

895
00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:33,440
have to apply them every single 
time we set up a layout. 

896
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,720
So what I made for myself was a 
journal layout planner. 

897
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,040
It's essentially a document in 
either Excel or Google Sheets 

898
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,240
that is sized appropriately so 
that it has the dimensions of my

899
00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:46,360
notebook and I can effectively 
make like a digital map for 

900
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,280
myself in there. 
How I'm going to set up the 

901
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,040
layout. 
One of the things that I also 

902
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,080
really love is because I'm more 
commonly making my titles and 

903
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,600
headers and such using typed 
font rather than doing hand 

904
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,040
lettering, I can just use that 
same font on the document to 

905
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,720
kind of get an appreciation for 
the spacing and the sizing. 

906
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,800
Like with this lettering style, 
will I actually be able to fit 

907
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,560
my header across the page or do 
I need to change the wording or 

908
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,560
do I need to change the sizing 
of that kind of print off? 

909
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,080
I can also get a good 
appreciation for how things are 

910
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,480
going to look at the end because
it's not just pencil I can use 

911
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,120
color. 
I can put in no sections to say,

912
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,120
oh, we're going to ignore this 
part of the page because you're 

913
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,360
going to turn it into a Dutch 
door. 

914
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,200
We're going to have decoration 
in this corner. 

915
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,960
This is roughly the color of 
that decoration, so we can put 

916
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,080
in some boxes of color to 
represent that. 

917
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,720
So I can get a very good look at
what the layout will actually 

918
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,840
look like once I set it up in my
journal rather than just having 

919
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,960
some kind of like penciled in 
scaffolding. 

920
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,120
It has been a game changer in 
terms of making sure that I 

921
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,920
don't like stuff up by spacing. 
I don't have to erase things as 

922
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,160
much. 
I'm saving time with those 

923
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,160
mistake fixes. 
And it's made it so that then 

924
00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:54,120
for those layouts that you do 
kind of set up repeatedly or you

925
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,240
have kind of a similar structure
week to week or month to month, 

926
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,920
I've got a back catalog of my 
setups. 

927
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,280
So I don't have to start from 
scratch every single time. 

928
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,520
If I'm doing a monthly review 
layout, I can just be like, oh, 

929
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,640
OK, jump back into last month's 
what worked about this? 

930
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,680
This looks good. 
Or I have to tweak these things,

931
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,240
but I'm not starting from zero 
every single time. 

932
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,720
So that has definitely been a 
favorite for me. 

933
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,760
I absolutely love those resource
pages. 

934
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,800
I found one on my computer that 
I went through is from 2020 is 

935
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,400
the last time I touched it, so 
it'd been a while and I created 

936
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,200
it. 
I was so proud of myself just 

937
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,640
because I actually actually made
all of the columns in the rows 

938
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,840
like 5 by 5 because I went 
through and essentially kind of 

939
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,960
digitized in a way all of the 
spreads and things that worked 

940
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:35,960
for me. 
And I was like, oh, this will be

941
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,960
great. 
And I put the sizes in between 

942
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,680
each to do that. 
Know where we differ is even 

943
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,880
though I know that I've done the
math, I know that it fits. 

944
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,480
I know that it's correct. 
I can't trust myself moving from

945
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,720
that digital like whatever. 
I'm still using my favorite 

946
00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:55,200
ruler to space it out. 
I still will use a pencil. 

947
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,400
I make a lot of pen just like 
little quick marks, so I know 

948
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,720
like where to start and where to
stop because I'm not counting as

949
00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:04,520
I go down my pages. 
But it is one of those things 

950
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,720
though, where it is a great 
resource and anytime you're 

951
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:09,520
stuck, I forget that I have it. 
Honestly, I don't have it in a 

952
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,840
spot where I'm like, oh, mark, 
remember you have this digital 

953
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,320
thing that has all these 
resources for you, but I love it

954
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:17,920
and I have actually thought I 
remember doing it. 

955
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,520
My wife was like, why are you 
doing that? 

956
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:20,760
She's like, you know what you 
should do? 

957
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,960
You should sell that as like a 
book like of ideas. 

958
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,440
And I was like, that's really 
good idea. 

959
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,880
You know, like I have all kinds 
of fun stuff where I'll be like,

960
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,240
oh, this is where you put a 
stamp if you want to, or this is

961
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:34,880
where you put stickers, like 
different ideas and shapes and 

962
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,520
stuff. 
Of course, I never followed 

963
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,960
through with it, but you know, 
maybe in the future, you never 

964
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,000
know. 
I was just thinking though, like

965
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,120
that is such a good resource to 
have for any time you're stuck. 

966
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,520
And I don't know, we should 
probably put those out on the 

967
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,760
Internet for other people in 
case they're stuck too. 

968
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,080
You know, it is one thing when 
you see a spread fully done, but

969
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,080
I think what I love most about 
it is seeing like the skeleton 

970
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,600
of the what the idea is. 
I always love doing that because

971
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,880
that's also how I plan my pages.
Like, like structurally, what 

972
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,520
are the main areas and spaces? 
And then I like to add on top of

973
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,400
that layer with something more 
designed to sticker a stamp 

974
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,880
color or doodle, whatever that 
might be. 

975
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,640
But I need to know that like 
functionally the space works 

976
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,480
1st. 
And that's why I think I, I 

977
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,000
really do like those types of 
things because it focuses so 

978
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,080
much more on that than the 
decorative part of it. 

979
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,280
Like that comes afterwards. 
Yeah, I did use. 

980
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,960
It to make a video at one point 
where I had set up kind of like,

981
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,040
you know, a bunch of different 
weekly layout ideas and then 

982
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,120
made those in the digital space 
and said like, hey, here's 

983
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,240
effectively like the schematic 
for the layout. 

984
00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:39,640
So it's got like the dimensions 
and the dock red numbers and all

985
00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:41,400
all of that. 
So if you wanted to recreate 

986
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,680
this for yourself, this is the 
kind of template that you would 

987
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,040
use. 
Put that in that video. 

988
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,920
But in terms of the, you know, 
journal spread planner or 

989
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,800
whatnot that I use, I do sell 
that. 

990
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,600
It is on my little shop. 
It doesn't come like pre 

991
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,840
populated with anything, but it 
does come set up for the 

992
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,840
different journal sizes. 
So we have like, you know, 

993
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,360
different variants of the a 
fives because sure, I use an 

994
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,520
answer and all of it has certain
dimensions, but there are other 

995
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,120
notebook companies that have 
other dimensions, but it's got 

996
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,560
like the B5 and the square and 
the basics and all of that type 

997
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,720
of thing. 
And having that reference as 

998
00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:10,200
well. 
And given the fact that I have 

999
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,080
that template with a bunch of 
different sizes, it does mean 

1000
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,760
that anytime I change my 
notebook size, I don't have to 

1001
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,440
go and set one up again from 
scratch. 

1002
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,240
I've just got that template 
there that I can use and very, 

1003
00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:23,000
very helpful because like next 
year I'm moving into a square 

1004
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,520
notebook, for instance. 
So rather than going and having 

1005
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,840
to set up a, you know, scaffold 
plan or whatever for myself, 

1006
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,920
I've already got one in my bank 
I can just go and use that makes

1007
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,200
it so much easier. 
And I always feel very proud 

1008
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,560
when I. 
Do that like in Excel, because I

1009
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,800
know you love Excel more than 
you love most people. 

1010
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,880
So it makes me happy where I'm 
like look at me using it's not 

1011
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,120
the way that it was intended 
whatsoever, but I could make 

1012
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,560
some magic happen here for sure.
It is it is good. 

1013
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,160
I need to pull that back up for 
myself. 

1014
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,160
Big recommendation, yes. 
And it's just. 

1015
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,680
I love the fact that it just 
makes my journaling easier, it 

1016
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,600
makes it faster, and it means 
that then I have like a resource

1017
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,280
for myself to use later on as 
well. 

1018
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,480
Don't have to kind of start from
scratch every single time, but 

1019
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,040
moving away from our favorites 
into our not so favorites. 

1020
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,320
What has been something that 
this year has stood out for you?

1021
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,640
Yeah. 
So that would be Teemu. 

1022
00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:13,640
For me personally, entire side, 
the entire thing. 

1023
00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:18,000
Well, yeah, I mean. 
Yes, you can get stuff cheap on 

1024
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,040
there. 
Like yes, I did like a bit of a 

1025
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,240
partnership with them earlier to
see like what it was all about. 

1026
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,600
Yes, it is crap. 
Like I do not find anything 

1027
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,400
good. 
And the thing I was most bummed 

1028
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,200
about are fountain pens off of 
Teemu because people would 

1029
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,600
always tell me, like, Mark, the 
pens you have are really 

1030
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,120
expensive, like just showed you 
like there's better versions or 

1031
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,800
knock off versions on Timu that 
you can get that work just as 

1032
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,760
well. 
And so I was really excited to 

1033
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,520
try that out. 
And I got these two different 

1034
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,120
pens thinking like, OK, this is 
great. 

1035
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,520
The problem is like, so this is 
the Timu one and then this is 

1036
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,920
like the platinum Kurdas, right?
Like, and I love this pen. 

1037
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,400
They I mean, they basically look
almost exactly the same. 

1038
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:02,880
Both of these pens dried out in 
a day like really fast like I I 

1039
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,120
filled it everything was great 
used it OK awesome. 

1040
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,600
Went to go grab the pen the next
day and the nibs were already 

1041
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,040
dried out and it got to the 
point where I was keeping a 

1042
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:16,440
little container of water on my 
desk and like dipping the nib to

1043
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:21,360
almost like undry and like re 
wet the nib a little bit and and

1044
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,720
I was just like, this is not 
what a fountain pen experience 

1045
00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:27,120
supposed to be. 
If I wanted to do that, I would 

1046
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,040
get a dip pen like and and I 
would dip it. 

1047
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,120
I wouldn't have to worry about 
it, but I was really bummed 

1048
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,520
about and they were they were 
like under $3 and I keep them 

1049
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:42,520
for this exact reason to be like
don't buy this crap off of Teamu

1050
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:47,200
like pony up and get the real 
thing because this works and 

1051
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,920
this works really well. 
I would. 

1052
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,000
I mean, it's just, I mean, this 
is wasteful. 

1053
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,320
I mean, I'm really holding on to
trash at this point. 

1054
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,960
I will never fill these pens 
again, ever. 

1055
00:47:57,240 --> 00:47:59,680
And I'm literally just using 
them as an example. 

1056
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,880
It's like, you know, when 
they're doing like a don't drink

1057
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,240
and drive and they hold on to a 
car that's been in like a 

1058
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:07,400
terrible car wreck, That's this.
Yeah. 

1059
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,640
Imagine the people who. 
Have been curious about fountain

1060
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,800
pens, gone to Google and been 
like, you know, budget friendly 

1061
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:18,000
fountain pen and whatnot. 
Found this $3 pen or whatnot and

1062
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,360
got that. 
And that's their first 

1063
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:20,920
experience. 
Like, that is their first 

1064
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,880
experience with a fountain pen. 
And they're like, cool fountain 

1065
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,800
pens sucks, They're trash. 
I don't want them. 

1066
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,920
This is awful. 
Yeah, I think that happens a 

1067
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,520
lot. 
Honestly, and I think it like 

1068
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,280
really pushes people away from 
it and never wanting to use them

1069
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,440
again. 
And you can get fountain pens 

1070
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,680
inexpensively. 
Like they don't have to cost 

1071
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,360
hundreds of dollars. 
I have some nice ones that I got

1072
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,920
off of Amazon that cost under 
$15.00. 

1073
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,800
You know, it's just like, are 
they as fancy and cool and like 

1074
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,880
all this different stuff? 
No, but it's a fountain pen. 

1075
00:48:46,240 --> 00:48:49,200
Go to five and below. 
Like buy one that already has 

1076
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,400
ink filled in it. 
Those work better than the crap 

1077
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,360
that I bought. 
So like I'm glad I didn't spend 

1078
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,280
a lot on them because I would 
have been real pissed off. 

1079
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,960
But I know some people who do 
buy off of that website. 

1080
00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:03,360
Maybe it's just the pens they 
buy or whatever and they, I 

1081
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,320
think it's the best thing ever. 
Like some of their favorite 

1082
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,320
pens, I forget the name of like 
Gene Ho or something along the 

1083
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,000
lines of that. 
It's like a generic version of 

1084
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,800
whatever. 
People love those pens. 

1085
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,480
They think they're fantastic. 
I did not buy that because I was

1086
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,000
just like, I don't need to. 
Let's see. 

1087
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,560
Oh, these look cool. 
Bad decision. 

1088
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,840
So I of all things this year, 
you know, I, I don't really, I 

1089
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,520
mean everything that was very 
good this year. 

1090
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,000
I can say like for the most 
part, like I really just bought 

1091
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,520
stuff that I knew that I wanted 
versus just trying. 

1092
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,560
But that was 1 area where I was 
just really bummed about it 

1093
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,760
because everyone told me how 
amazing it was going to be and 

1094
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,600
they're just as good and all of 
this. 

1095
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,400
And as soon as that happened and
I tried and tried and tried, it 

1096
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,160
didn't work. 
I was like, no, like you all are

1097
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,840
liars. 
Yeah, I find that often times 1.

1098
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,520
Of the things that gets me in 
terms of disappointments is just

1099
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,800
having kind of expectations 
coming into something or having 

1100
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,600
like overhype coming into 
something. 

1101
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,200
You know, one of my notebooks 
that I got a couple years back 

1102
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,840
or whatnot, I was so excited to 
get it a cover was so beautiful.

1103
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,280
I'm like, Yep, this is gorgeous.
This is going to be my reading 

1104
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,800
journal. 
I absolutely love this. 

1105
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,680
And then I got it into my 
collection. 

1106
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,600
I'm like, cool, the binding 
sucks, the corners are sharp, 

1107
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,440
this notebook is aggressive, the
dots are massive, they're really

1108
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,200
dark grey and they're not 
consistently 5mm apart. 

1109
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,040
So instant disappointment. 
Like yes, the cover was 

1110
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,240
beautiful, absolutely gorgeous 
notebook, but the disappointment

1111
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:23,720
factor was like so much higher 
because I had expectations like 

1112
00:50:23,720 --> 00:50:25,720
going into the thing. 
And that's not saying that we 

1113
00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:27,680
should purchase things without 
expectations. 

1114
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,320
Like that doesn't seem like a 
good system for purchasing 

1115
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,640
things. 
But it can mean that like those 

1116
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,160
items are the things that stand 
out as like a flop or fail, 

1117
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,240
didn't actually enjoy or like 
this. 

1118
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,040
Yeah, I felt the same way. 
I just. 

1119
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,400
Ordered a Hemlock and Oak 
because a lot of people were 

1120
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,520
telling me about the brand and 
like, I should try it and it can

1121
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,080
work well with fountain pens. 
And I was kind of in the same 

1122
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,440
boat. 
It was funny because I shared 

1123
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:51,680
the picture with you. 
I was like, I got this. 

1124
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,240
And the very first thing you 
said was those corners are very 

1125
00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:56,680
aggressive because they're not 
rounded corners, they're sharp 

1126
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,280
corners. 
And I was just like, yeah, and 

1127
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,800
you know, I pen tested it in it.
I'm I'm working on a video right

1128
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,440
now on it because I'm comparing 
it to Archer and Olive because 

1129
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,320
it is a high competitor for my 
next bullet journal in the new 

1130
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:09,760
year to maybe try something 
different. 

1131
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,360
I see how it works, but it took 
a really like kind of long time 

1132
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:14,920
to get here was coming from 
Canada. 

1133
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,440
Not that it matters like I'm 
used to waiting. 

1134
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,680
Archer and Olive doesn't come 
fast either necessarily. 

1135
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,160
But I remember getting I opened 
it and there is no design on the

1136
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,040
cover because I don't personally
think a lot of their designs fit

1137
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,600
my aesthetic. 
I'm finding new ways to say 

1138
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,600
that. 
Like they're not very masculine 

1139
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:33,760
looking. 
It doesn't. 

1140
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,600
You're doing so well. 
You're doing so well. 

1141
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,280
It doesn't fit my aesthetic. 
And I was just like, OK, and I 

1142
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:43,760
got it and it's like a nice 
color, but it has nothing on the

1143
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,920
front cover of it. 
Isn't this just a color? 

1144
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,080
And I was just like, like, I'm 
still excited to use it, don't 

1145
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:51,720
get me wrong. 
And like really test it and 

1146
00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:54,000
really give it a good go. 
But that was something where I 

1147
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,280
was like, yes, everyone told me 
it's great and it's awesome and 

1148
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:57,440
I can't wait. 
And I opened it. 

1149
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,880
I was like, OK, so hopefully the
the usage is going to get me 

1150
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,240
more excited than that. 
Not having a design on the 

1151
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:05,840
cover. 
Like I bought it knowing there 

1152
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,040
wasn't a design. 
I guess I didn't realize how 

1153
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,120
much the design on the front of 
my notebooks, like affects me in

1154
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,320
a positive way. 
So yeah, it is what it is. 

1155
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,280
You just kind of whip that 
cricket out and make. 

1156
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,760
Yourself a nice and final decal 
to go around the outside. 

1157
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:19,800
No way I this is one of those 
things. 

1158
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,440
Too, Jess, where like I paid 
full price for that notebook and

1159
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,880
that's a thing that you and I 
don't often have to do. 

1160
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,600
Like I'm sorry, like we have a 
lot of things that are said to 

1161
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,720
us, but I was just like, no, 
we're not doing anything to mess

1162
00:52:31,720 --> 00:52:33,600
this up. 
Like I actually took it out of 

1163
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,080
the packaging, looked at it, put
it right back in the packaging 

1164
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,600
and like put it in a box to the 
side until I was actually ready 

1165
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,320
to use it because I'm I don't 
want anything to accidentally 

1166
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,200
get on it. 
I had ink spill on my desk 

1167
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,120
earlier today. 
Like I would have lost it if I 

1168
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,600
would have had anything on my 
desk. 

1169
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,040
I've been very good about clean 
desk as I'm doing new things. 

1170
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,840
But still it's some of those 
things where you're just like, 

1171
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,720
yeah, maybe I'm not as excited 
as I thought I was but we'll 

1172
00:52:59,720 --> 00:53:00,960
see. 
Yeah, don't turn it into a 

1173
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,880
wreck, this journal. 
Or anything like that get a 

1174
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,480
giant ink splotch on the back of
it. 

1175
00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:07,000
I do have one of my notebooks 
that has a stain on the back of 

1176
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,680
it, and I have no idea how it 
got there because I only use it 

1177
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,400
at my desk. 
I don't usually have things that

1178
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,520
would stain stuff on my desk. 
So I'm most like suspect 

1179
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,160
Genesipa. 
But I think that one of the 

1180
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,440
points you made there, that idea
that we do get sent a lot of 

1181
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,000
stuff, which I am very grateful 
for, very, very grateful. 

1182
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,840
But I do think that when it 
comes to one of my unfavourites 

1183
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,760
for this year, that kind of 
process of being sent things 

1184
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:38,360
from brands and such very much 
contributed to having a lot of 

1185
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:42,640
this item and not necessarily 
loving that I now have a lot of 

1186
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,240
this item. 
Singing Sister, what is it so? 

1187
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:46,800
At the start of this year in 
going. 

1188
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,120
Into my reading journal, I 
decided that I wanted to change 

1189
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,960
up how I was doing my reading 
reviews. 

1190
00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:54,160
Last year and the year before. 
I had been using a very set 

1191
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,080
formulaic structure that wasn't 
highly decorated, or at least it

1192
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,760
wasn't decorated in relation to 
the piece of media. 

1193
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:02,840
And I was just getting really 
bored with it. 

1194
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,000
But I was seeing a lot of people
online doing colleges of their 

1195
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,160
journal reads or like of their 
book reads rather, and you're 

1196
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,680
putting in different elements 
related to that book. 

1197
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,760
So they kind of just like live 
in the world a little bit 

1198
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,560
longer. 
And I thought it was the coolest

1199
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,800
thing ever. 
So I'm like, OK, maybe that's 

1200
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,280
what I'm going to do with my 
reading reviews this year, but 

1201
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,400
I'm gonna need supplies to be 
able to do that. 

1202
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,320
So I started collecting a heap 
of sticker books, like, you 

1203
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,920
know, those ones that have, you 
know, 20 sheets in them or 

1204
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,000
something. 
They end up with like 203 

1205
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,880
hundred, 600 plus stickers in 
them, which is great, but I 

1206
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,320
don't have a good system for 
actually knowing what stickers I

1207
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,480
have. 
I kind of selected the sticker 

1208
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,440
books because they weren't 
necessarily sent to me without 

1209
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,720
me getting to select anything. 
It was like, hey, here's a 

1210
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:49,520
voucher, you can get up to X 
amount on our shop. 

1211
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,920
So I'd go and get sticker books 
because I'm like, oh, I need 

1212
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,920
this for the reading journal. 
Neat is a strong word. 

1213
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,960
We're going to keep it in there,
but you know, whatever. 

1214
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,920
So bringing these into my stash,
having all of these different 

1215
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:03,520
collections like travel inspired
ones or the denim inspired ones 

1216
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,600
or old times in Paris or 
whatever, I would try and pick 

1217
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,600
ones related to things I could 
foresee myself reading about. 

1218
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:14,120
But then when it came to doing 
the reading reviews, I, I didn't

1219
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,960
want to have to like give myself
the homework of looking through 

1220
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,480
all of the sticker books to find
the perfect sticker to go with 

1221
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,200
that book. 
And even then, oftentimes if I'm

1222
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,000
using like a character sticker, 
say I want it to look like the 

1223
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,320
character in the book. 
So it's like, okay, sure, this 

1224
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,920
guys in like a baseball jersey 
or something. 

1225
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,480
She's talking shit. 
She doesn't know anything about 

1226
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,680
sport, but whatever. 
He's in some kind of get up, but

1227
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,680
he's blonde and my main 
character has black hair. 

1228
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,360
So like that doesn't, that 
doesn't work. 

1229
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,200
We can't use that. 
I'd rather go and find fan art 

1230
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,400
online or like sign up to 
somebody's Patreon to get images

1231
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,800
that they have like drawn and 
designed that actually look like

1232
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,480
the characters and print those 
off and stick those in rather 

1233
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,360
than using all of my oftentimes 
computer generated art that is 

1234
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,200
in all of these sticker books. 
So I think that in bringing them

1235
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,320
into my collection, it is 
encouraging a bad habit for me. 

1236
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:05,400
And I think that I might, I'm at
least going to stop buying them 

1237
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:10,480
as a first point, but I think 
that having them here is just 

1238
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,720
going to encourage me to 
continue collecting them. 

1239
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,680
So I might let them go. 
Maybe. 

1240
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:16,880
I feel you on that. 
I mean the Circle books. 

1241
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,080
Are hard. 
I feel like there needs to be 

1242
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:22,560
like a index or something in the
front or in the back, you know, 

1243
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,720
where you can be like look up by
theme or by name or something 

1244
00:56:25,720 --> 00:56:27,640
like that where it like collects
them like that. 

1245
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,280
I agree with you, it's 
difficult. 

1246
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,400
I've been thinking about some 
different ways for me to do this

1247
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,200
myself. 
Like I have all the flake 

1248
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,400
stickers and the regular 
stickers and their different 

1249
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,120
spots. 
And I thought like, what if I 

1250
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:42,480
create like a visual library of 
them, you know, and then like 

1251
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,200
tag them and do something to air
table and make it fancy. 

1252
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,960
But then I was just like that. 
It's a lot of work to to do 

1253
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:51,480
that, you know, and I'm, I 
bought a book that was like, you

1254
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,360
know, 1000 and Fembra stickers 
and I was like, oh, that's cool.

1255
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,080
But it's the same thing. 
I flipped through it several 

1256
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,480
times, like trying to be 
inspired by something that's in 

1257
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,400
there because they don't show 
you all, you know, 55 pages with

1258
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,840
like all of the stickers. 
You get like little snapshots of

1259
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,600
it. 
The snapshots I saw I really 

1260
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,800
liked, but then it's just like 
the ones that I didn't see. 

1261
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,400
I'm like, well, I would never 
use that. 

1262
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:14,960
What do I do with this? 
Now? 

1263
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:16,640
That's actually a really great 
idea. 

1264
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,120
It would be cool if they could 
kind of organize them or I'm 

1265
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,360
sure there are sticker books out
there that do that where it's 

1266
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:27,240
just like, you know, pages one 
through 10 are beach themed and,

1267
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,480
you know, the next ones are fall
themed or, you know, they kind 

1268
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,520
of put them together for you. 
I don't try to think of the 

1269
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,720
right word for it, but like they
curate the book for a specific 

1270
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,000
reason. 
Oh yeah, mine are like that. 

1271
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,560
I. 
Have them, they're all kind of 

1272
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,280
like a theme per pack. 
So it's like one of them is like

1273
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,240
ancient travel and it's all 
like, you know, ancient 

1274
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:47,600
landscapes and buildings and 
such. 

1275
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,680
Or there's one that's like just 
beach and it's all like, you 

1276
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,560
know, beach themed, going to the
beach, beach picnic, yadda yadda

1277
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,400
type deal. 
But even then, I find that I'm 

1278
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,400
not, I'm not super savvy and 
knowing like what stickers are 

1279
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,120
actually available in the books.
Like I know the general theming,

1280
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,200
but I don't know what designs 
are in there. 

1281
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,520
And it's like, OK, well, sure, I
have this design, but it's a 

1282
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,400
certain size and it won't fit in
this spot. 

1283
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,320
So it just becomes like way too 
much admin to use stickers, 

1284
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,880
which given that this is 
supposed to be like journaling, 

1285
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,680
like a fun thing, I don't want 
to turn my fun thing into 

1286
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,480
homework. 
I'm just having this like, 

1287
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,640
epiphany, right? 
Now and of course I'll never 

1288
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,600
follow through on this. 
So if someone does this and not 

1289
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,440
me, if you are a sticker company
and you sell those Tye of books,

1290
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:32,080
you should create an online 
category where you could like 

1291
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:37,120
search in A tag and then it'll 
tell you what journal pack it's 

1292
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:41,440
a part of or what book pack it's
a part of, what page it's on and

1293
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,960
a visual of what it looks like. 
Like, how cool would that be if 

1294
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,280
you had like a visual dictionary
that was just like you said, 

1295
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:51,120
like you would tag something 
like male black hair. 

1296
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:52,360
I don't know. 
Those are the two things you 

1297
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:53,640
said. 
I don't know if you would even 

1298
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,800
tag it that way, but it would 
then pull up like a digital 

1299
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,600
library of all of that. 
And I mean, I feel like from a 

1300
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,200
sales perspective, it's like, 
oh, I don't have that one, but 

1301
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:06,320
that would fit perfectly add to 
cart, you know, and like sell 

1302
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,280
another. 
Sorry for the overconsumption 

1303
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,640
conversation again, but like you
have to find that perfect one. 

1304
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,920
That would be really cool to do,
I think personally. 

1305
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,800
Yeah, I think that for me. 
I would personally, moving 

1306
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:23,560
forward rather just buy smaller 
sets that are themed and they're

1307
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,840
kind of like all matchy matchy 
because this is another issue I 

1308
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,080
have with the larger sticker 
books. 

1309
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,160
Is that because they have so 
many things in there having a 

1310
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,240
consistent theme the whole way 
through or something that is 

1311
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,080
matchy matchy given that I like 
that in most of my journal 

1312
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,000
setups, like, but for everyday 
journal setups in particular, I 

1313
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,200
like to use materials that look 
like they belong together. 

1314
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,000
So the like style of art is 
similar between each of them. 

1315
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,600
The color palette is similar 
between each of them. 

1316
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,800
When you have these larger 
sticker books, I can say like 

1317
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,560
this, they're not even that big.
They're like this big, but 

1318
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:53,720
there's so many stickers in 
them. 

1319
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,480
But because there are so many 
stickers, if you had them all be

1320
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,920
super consistent, super super 
matchy matchy, it would be very 

1321
00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:03,000
one note kind of bland. 
And nobody, I mean, I say 

1322
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,440
nobody. 
I certainly do not need to use a

1323
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,440
full sticker book of stickers. 
For one setup, So if we think 

1324
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,080
about the amount of time that 
that sticker book based on the 

1325
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,560
number of stickers in there, 
like the volume is going to last

1326
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,880
me, I'm never going to use all 
of these, especially because I 

1327
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,000
couldn't bother going through 
them to find the sticker that in

1328
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,440
theory might fit the situation. 
So I would rather just buy 

1329
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,400
smaller packs where everything 
kind of is cohesive and fits 

1330
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:26,920
together nicely. 
And I have really good 

1331
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,360
understanding as to what is in 
that sticker pack because I will

1332
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,840
be more likely to use it. 
It will stick out more in my 

1333
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,720
mind as something that I 
remember that I have in my 

1334
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:38,920
collection as opposed to you're 
very absent mindedly flicking 

1335
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,560
through the book being like, oh,
this is cute, this is cool type 

1336
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,880
of a deal and then never really 
utilizing any of them. 

1337
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:46,840
I agree with you 100% there, I 
think. 

1338
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:47,600
It is. 
It's hard. 

1339
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,880
You feel like you're getting 
value when you're buying like a 

1340
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,360
big giant pack of those things. 
But you're right, when you 

1341
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,400
actually dig into it, you 
realize that I'm not going to 

1342
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:59,360
use half of these in there. 
It does feel very wasteful. 

1343
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,400
Like you said, you could be 
supporting a smaller shop or 

1344
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:03,840
something like that. 
I've never thought of that, such

1345
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,320
a good idea. 
Like people that have sticker 

1346
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,240
shops and that are artists. 
If you're like, oh, here's a 

1347
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:14,400
book theme that you can buy like
the fairy porn, right? 

1348
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,440
Like you could buy, you know, a 
whole sticker pack. 

1349
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:22,000
Just just hates when I say that 
because you're like reductive. 

1350
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,160
I'm so reductive. 
That's why. 

1351
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,080
I say it now, I, I don't mean to
be that way, but like how great 

1352
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:27,920
he's rating us. 
Don't worry about. 

1353
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,960
Him, you just don't pay him no 
mind. 

1354
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,680
But it would be great to be 
like, oh, I can. 

1355
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,760
Get this little fairy and a 
little loincloth, you know, for 

1356
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:40,360
my page instead of like, finding
like a random fairy sticker book

1357
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:41,920
that you have to, like, 
customize. 

1358
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:43,720
Yeah, exactly. 
And I think that's the nice 

1359
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,320
part. 
About especially like supporting

1360
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:46,960
the people who are making fan 
out of things. 

1361
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,680
Because it's like, I know this 
matches the thing I've read. 

1362
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,960
And if I want to make a collage 
with materials that look like 

1363
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,680
the characters in the book, 
somebody has actually like put 

1364
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,760
the time, effort and energy in 
to make that for me. 

1365
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,960
And I can give them a little 
kickback and have something that

1366
01:01:59,960 --> 01:02:02,600
looks nice in my journal. 
So that's probably what I'm 

1367
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,320
leaning towards. 
But Platter Powers, we want to 

1368
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,040
hear from you. 
What have been your favorite 

1369
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,680
supplies from this year? 
Either ones that just stood out 

1370
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,320
as like, yes, I'm really 
utilizing this this year. 

1371
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,320
It's been in my collection for a
while, but this was the year 

1372
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:15,880
that I like doubled down on 
using it. 

1373
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:17,680
Or it could be something you 
bought in you. 

1374
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,720
Let us know in the comments here
on YouTube. 

1375
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,240
Or if you're ever on Spotify, we
have comments over there. 

1376
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,880
We would love to read those. 
If you'd rather than send us an 

1377
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:26,920
e-mail, it's cool. 
Mark will respond to you. 

1378
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:30,040
I'm sure that is Platter 
powerspodcast@gmail.com. 

1379
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,000
Or you can hit us up on 
Instagram, Instagram at Planner 

1380
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,640
Pals podcast. 
I laugh at that because I 

1381
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,200
always. 
Think I'm like, I wonder if Jess

1382
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,080
already responded to this person
and I was like, no she didn't, 

1383
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,840
I'll do it. 
She reads it. 

1384
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,880
She just doesn't respond. 
Valid, that is just from. 

1385
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,040
Moving forward, we now know that
is a team norm. 

1386
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,160
You will read them. 
You will not respond. 

1387
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,680
Let Mark respond well. 
Planter pals, this was amazing. 

1388
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,080
Jess, thanks for sharing your 
favorites. 

1389
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,640
I think I might have to look 
into your sticker storage. 

1390
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,200
I know I just said I already 
have it, but like, I really like

1391
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,160
your idea. 
It's why episodes like this is 

1392
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:02,920
so great. 
I can't wait to hear what y'all 

1393
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,320
are chatting about inside of the
comments section and telling us 

1394
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,120
what to go for and what to stay 
away from this year. 

1395
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,400
So Planter pals will talk to you
next time and see you.