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Hey there, and welcome to the 
Planner Pals Podcast, a podcast 

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hosted by two true planner pals.
My name is Mark or mark your 

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pages. 
And I am Jess or Jessie, Karen. 

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And in today's episode, we're 
going to be having a look at the

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opposite from last time's 
episode. 

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So rather than the trackers that
we can't live without, the ones 

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that we set up time and time 
again because they work so well 

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for us, we're looking at the 
ones that definitely don't, the 

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ones that we have tried maybe a 
couple of times, but every 

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single time it flops. 
Yeah, and I'm glad to be back 

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home in my own space now. 
Thank you for everyone who put 

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up, especially you, Jess with 
that last setup because that 

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everything about that, it was 
like, let's try to make a remote

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podcast from far away. 
No, let's not do that ever 

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again. 
So thanks everyone for listening

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and also commenting on that one 
and and sharing what's worked 

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out well for you too. 
It's always so cool to hear some

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different and cool. 
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you know, something that might 
be essential for us, somebody 

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turns around, goes like, yeah, 
no, I cannot use that layout at 

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all whatsoever. 
People who are saying like, Oh 

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yeah, my future log is my 
essential or my index is 

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essential. 
And then I turn around like, no,

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no, no, no, no, no. 
So it's nice to get the kind of 

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like different perspective both 
from like us and then also from 

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our community as well. 
Absolutely. 

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I think the ones we're going to 
talk about today, all these 

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fails, I think everybody can 
relate to as well. 

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There's it's really hard just to
pick out a few. 

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I think you know, what have I 
been bullet now for over 7 years

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I guess now. 
So there's a. 

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There's a whole lot of fails. 
Yeah, Oh gosh, I think that if I

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just took up like all of the 
layouts that have not worked 

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out, the ones that did not get 
executed the way that I had 

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hoped, I could probably fill 
like 3 full notebooks with them,

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which is certainly saying 
something. 

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Especially when people feel like
they have to approach their 

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journaling kind of like 
perfectly and every layout has 

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to be a winner and everything 
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Otherwise, you're doing it 
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Certainly not the case. 
Failed layouts definitely 

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happen, even for people who have
been doing this for quite a 

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while. 
Oh, yeah, no, no idea is a bad 

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idea until it just doesn't 
execute well. 

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I was actually thinking about 
maybe doing like a future video 

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on YouTube where I go back to 
like the really bad spreads and 

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things that didn't work out and 
be like, how would I approach 

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this today knowing what I know? 
So maybe we'll get some other 

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ideas from this too, and maybe 
others can definitely share the 

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ones that they've commonly 
failed on as well. 

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Yeah, I think that'd be actual 
really cool idea. 

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It's like, this didn't work for 
me before, but like, how would I

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approach it differently? 
Because I've done that 

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previously with like recreating 
your first layout or setup or 

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whatever and, you know, just 
making it a little bit better or

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whatnot. 
But to actually think about 

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tackling failed layouts and kind
of going back and reworking 

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them, rejigging them with the 
kind of more context or what you

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know, does or doesn't work with 
you could actually be really a 

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really good idea. 
I need to write this down. 

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I mean, we should we just 
totally brainstorm if we think 

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there's something you can do to 
make it better or even if 

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there's things that we've 
learned over time, like you 

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said, if you started this on 
like one of your first ones, 

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Honestly, most of mine I've just
never done again or I do them 

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very sparingly because I just 
know it's not for me. 

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Is there anything that like in 
your list? 

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As we go through it, obviously 
you'll share more about it, but 

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are there ones on there where 
you're like, this just hasn't 

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worked for me for years, never 
going to do this. 

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When I was trying to brainstorm 
the list and go through like you

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know, what kind of layouts who 
have I had that don't really 

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work? 
Are there any that like I tried 

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once and just kind of quit, but 
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it comes to that? 
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bit delulu, Like I just like 
trying and trying again. 

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It's like, Yep, still doesn't 
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I don't know why we put this in 
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row. 
You usually have just kind of 

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like tried once, flop, doesn't 
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Or is it more like I tried a 
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working? 
I've tried a couple of times and

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they just don't work. 
Like my very first one. 

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We can just kick into it if 
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Is just any type of water 
tracker ever. 

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Like I know that people live and
breathe and drink by H2O 

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trackers. 
It's one of the most common 

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things I feel like I saw when I 
started first bullet journaling.

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But it is just something about 
it that I just, I'm, I'm not 

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drinking, I would need a certain
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That's like Mark, this is an 8 
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And every time I drank that I 
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I just honestly just, I just 
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I think is really what it comes 
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So I can't track properly 
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size of my cup honestly. 
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I think that's also kind of a 
good point about it though. 

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Like, unless you're using a very
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suppose, for your water intake, 
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much water you are in taking? 
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Are we including other 
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Because, you know, water in the 
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isn't the only way to get water 
into your diet as well. 

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Like, you get it through food. 
You get it through coffee. 

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Yes, I know there's a diuretic 
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Again, I don't drink coffee. 
I only take it in the form of 

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ice cream. 
But like, if you melt it, that's

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practically water, right? 
Yeah, sure. 

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Absolutely. 
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just, I don't like to do the 
math like this that I have here 

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is 18 oz, right. 
And so in my brain, I've always 

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been told what is it like you're
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ounces glasses of water or 8 
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And that's what I think I get 
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measurement that we're really 
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And I think that's just kind of 
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I mean, I've always looked at it
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water, not kind of soda or 
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Like the water is the thing 
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always the goal. 
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more water because it's the 
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But I think the other thing 
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don't ever come back to this as 
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friend of mine told me that that
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based off of like a lot of other
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weight and like a bunch of other
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So, you know, the 8 glasses of 
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thing, but I might actually need
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And again, I'm just not going to
do the research to figure it 

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out. 
I'll just drink water without 

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tracking it every single day and
putting that in my bullet 

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journals, just taking up space. 
And I've definitely come across 

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and have a lot of different 
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to include it. 
And if you're watching this on 

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YouTube also, we'll put all of 
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they look like. 
Sorry for the podcast fans out 

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there that listen the true audio
form, but I've done everything 

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from actual little water drops. 
I've done squares in my boxes 

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that I can fill in and color in 
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I've tried a lot of different 
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never keep up with it. 
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Do you find that I mean for the 
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previously, have you done both 
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weekly just? 
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weekly. 
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that's just not I would not. 
I just you wouldn't fill it out.

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No, that's fair. 
I find that tracking things on a

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monthly basis can be kind of 
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Like anytime I have a month long
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point and my motivation is just 
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month is like obviously I died. 
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workout, Tuesdays, I'm all 
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Wednesday, I'm like, who cares? 
Mark, you're drinking water. 

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Good for you. 
You know you made a good choice 

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today. 
You made a good choice today. 

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Always good. 
Yeah, a little Gold Star on that

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one. 
I find that with water trackers,

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because I have used them 
previously, I love the aesthetic

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of them. 
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the little glass or like 
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I think it's really cute to kind
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said, I'd get to about the 
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yeah, flop. 
Also, I tend not to take my 

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water in the form of water and I
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with Coke 0 even though that's 
the most accurate as to what I 

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actually drank. 
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how much water is actually in a 
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Distill it down the whole 
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I'm I'm for it. 
I'm I'm all about it. 

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I'm not going to go to the 
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bothered, I would be bothered. 
I mean, that's kind of goes 

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without saying. 
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that point about just because 
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standard, you know, universal 
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whatever. 
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person to person. 
I haven't done the research. 

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I am not a doctor, but you know,
weight, age, like location that 

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you live in, like if you live in
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or arid or like whatever, that's
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it's some of us as if it's 
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I mean, if we were going with 
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quote way to track your 
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like TMI, too much information 
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it would be AP tracker and you 
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something. 
I'm not going to put that in my 

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platter. 
Like I don't need that 

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information. 
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that's the way that they want to
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What color would we color code 
the P tracker I wonder? 

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Hopefully only the good range of
yellow colors and not into 

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anything is. 
Whoa, why is that a sunset 

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orange? 
I'm also thinking that like if 

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you drink black vodka, your pee 
straight goes green, like very 

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green. 
So maybe we need to put that in 

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there as well if you're a black 
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But if you're not, then 
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of yellows. 
Wishing the best, we are not 

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doctors. 
Not doctors right? 

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There's no medical advice in 
this, only journaling advice. 

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Possibly If a water tracker 
isn't for you but you want to 

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track your hydration, maybe you 
need a pee tracker. 

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All right, Jess, So what is one 
of your most failed collection 

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pages? 
I think one that would 

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definitely have to be up there 
would be a routines tracker 

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because despite wanting to have 
really good routines and you're 

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completely habitualize my life 
in a way, I'm not very good at 

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it and thus I'm not very good at
sticking with the tracker. 

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It's very much one of those kind
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kind of things. 
I don't do the routine, so then 

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I don't want to go back to the 
tracker and then because I don't

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go back to the tracker, it 
hasn't been filled in and then I

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don't want to use the tracker 
because it's half empty and so 

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on and so forth. 
Very kind of cycle thing. 

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But the way that this kind of 
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the way that I've set it up 
previously is that I outline a 

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bunch of stuff that I want to do
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weekly fortnightly kind of 
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basis. 
I have a list of those running 

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down one side of the page and 
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I'll have the week numbers. 
Normally I'd only set this one 

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up so it would be like half year
based, possibly like quarterly 

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based so that I don't have to 
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sized journal to fit like every 
week of the year across the top.

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That'd be a little bit 
ridiculous. 

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But going in and filling that 
one in, I would just go and 

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check off for each of the rows 
and columns, like which ones did

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I do on which week? 
In theory, it didn't actually do

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that, didn't fill it in, and 
thus it was kind of useless. 

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I tried it a couple of times, 
but despite the good intentions,

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could not get it to actually 
work. 

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What? 
Kind of routines are you putting

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on there? 
I'm very curious about this, 

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yeah. 
So most of them would be around 

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kind of like life admin and 
journaling related processes. 

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So things related to kind of 
like a weekly reset process, 

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like have you tidied up your 
office? 

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Have you gone and populated your
calendar for the next week? 

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Have you filled in all of your 
yearly collections that you're 

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neglecting and that kind of 
stuff? 

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It would also have things 
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chores, which I'm notoriously 
bad at. 

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So again, don't do them. 
Don't fill it in. 

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Doesn't look nice because I 
haven't filled it in. 

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Don't use it I think. 
It's also the avoidance part of 

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it. 
It's just because you know that 

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you don't want to look at it, 
especially if you don't like to 

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do it. 
And it's just like that constant

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reminder, at least with the 
chores and things like that. 

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The routines though, for some of
the other pieces, I was really 

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interested last time when you 
were talking about the different

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journals that you have and what 
you keep in there. 

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And I actually, she asked you 
like, how do you remind yourself

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to go back and do that? 
I mean, I think that that's 

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probably a really good way to 
potentially do that. 

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But in my mind, when I think 
routines, I think about like my 

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morning routine. 
And we talked about this last 

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time where like for me 
personally, that executive 

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function part is OK in my brain.
So I don't need to track whether

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or not I've washed my face and 
brushed my teeth and flossed and

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got dressed or those type of 
things. 

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Like that's just happens 
sometimes. 

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Honestly, it feels like 
Westworld in this house where 

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like every day I wait, wake up 
and it's the same exact thing 

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every day. 
I was just like, nothing's 

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changed. 
Somebody come and do something 

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interesting, you know, like it's
just the same thing every single

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day. 
So to track that for me 

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personally kind of feels like 
mundane. 

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But for those people who 
struggle with that part of it, I

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can understand how that could 
potentially work. 

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Or again, some people maybe get 
a little dopamine hit, you know,

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when they circle in that yes, 
they brush their teeth for the 

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day and they're everything's 
going great. 

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And then I'm all about that. 
I just think for me, I'd be in 

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the same boat where I'd be like,
you know, stop filling that out 

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because I did it like I'm OK. 
Yeah. 

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I think that some of those 
routines and practices, they 

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kind of do happen a little bit 
on autopilot. 

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They're the ones that happen on 
a weekly basis because they 

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always happen at the same time. 
Like for instance, laundry day 

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is Thursday. 
That is the way it is. 

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That is the way it will be until
Vogel says he wants Thursday, 

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which won't happen because he'll
he's usually at work on 

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Thursday. 
So stuff like that, not so bad. 

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It's just the things like 
actually going in and like 

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cleaning the bathrooms and 
changing the sheets and all of 

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those kind of things that if I'm
not mindful about them, they 

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will not happen. 
I have to actually actively 

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remind myself to do them. 
And I always felt kind of bad 

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going through and like flipping 
through my journal because, you 

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know, sharing them on the 
Internet and whatever. 

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And we get to that routines 
layout and it says like change 

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sheets hasn't happened for eight
weeks. 

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And I'm like, I promise it has. 
I'm just not using the layout. 

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Oh my gosh. 
Like I'm not sitting there in 

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bed swimming in my own filth. 
I promise. 

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But like it. 
And you know, someone would call

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you out on that one of your like
hardcores that are like watching

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every video where they're like, 
Oh my gosh, Justin not filling 

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her circle. 
That's disgusting. 

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Well. 
Yeah, like during lockdown and 

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stuff, because my trigger to 
brush my teeth was leaving the 

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house and I wasn't leaving the 
house. 

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There were a couple of days on 
my tracker that I hadn't filled 

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in that I brushed my teeth. 
And some person, I don't know, 

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somebody who is obviously having
a hard time of it, was 

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commenting being like, oh, it's 
disgusting. 

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You like didn't brush your teeth
every day and like, 

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congratulations on being 
perfect. 

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And it's like I, I'm very 
hopeful that one day the 

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routines tracker as I've set it 
up will work for me. 

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But like you kind of talked 
about at the start, I would like

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to maybe go back to that layout 
and think about like, how could 

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I change this so that it 
actually does work for me? 

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Because I think that the 
information I'm capturing there 

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could be useful to like keep 
track of and have definitely. 

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I think especially with some of 
the more like administrative 

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ones that you talked about, I 
could definitely see setting a 

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reminder for that, whether 
you're doing that if you're 

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bullet journaling in a future 
log or I could see even like a 

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calendar page or something like 
that where you just go through 

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it. 
You know, I would probably use 

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like those dot markers maybe. 
And just like, you know, every 

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Thursday, I'm just dotting down 
and writing laundry just as a 

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reminder like this is happening,
you know, make sure it gets 

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done. 
I could see that for things like

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bills, for instance, or if you 
were doing something else where 

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like it's not an executive 
function of like a, a daily kind

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of thing. 
You do whatever it might be. 

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But just, I don't know, the more
administration iterative thing I

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think is where I'm going with 
it. 

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Like that is a good reminder. 
And if I'm not doing it there, I

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would also probably have it in 
my phone as well. 

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Just a reoccurring meeting every
single week. 

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Like don't forget, just like 
what I do with trash and 

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recycling. 
Like I know that that happens on

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Monday and Fridays and every 
other Tuesday, but I constantly,

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well, I use my phone all the 
time. 

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I just set it up in there and it
reminds me and I know because 

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otherwise it's just not 
happening. 

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Yeah. 
I think that maybe it's not 

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necessarily something that I 
need to put on a tracker per SE,

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but some kind of reminder 
somewhere else could be useful 

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just to make sure that those 
things happen. 

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But that's one of mine. 
What is your next underused, 

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often failed layout that you put
in your journal? 

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Or maybe not so much more this. 
Is one we talked about a little 

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bit last time we were joking 
about it. 

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So it was actually a little bit 
of a precursor for this 

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conversation. 
It's my cocky social media 

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trackers where I make my number 
too big. 

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So if you didn't check out the 
last episode, I talked about a 

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social media tracker, which I do
love to use. 

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It's a very highly used tracker.
However, one time I got too big 

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for my britches and I decided 
that I was going to start 

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tracking my followers by every 
1000, which was a cocky 

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endeavor. 
And therefore I only ever filled

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in one box and never filled in 
other boxes on that spread. 

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So something that I've done is I
kind of scaled depending on how 

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growth is happening. 
You know, early on I was 

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tracking by every 25 new 
followers and then for while I 

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think I upped it to 100 and then
I don't know, for whatever 

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reason, I went from 100 to 1000 
and then I was like, Oh no, 

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let's dial it back. 
So I think now I do it by 100 

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because honestly, I don't know 
about you 100 new followers at 

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this point for me, doesn't 
happen. 

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I actually go down. 
I feel like more than I go up 

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nowadays, so it's one that I 
definitely love. 

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It's just that I have to watch 
my values so that it actually 

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can use it. 
It's not just sitting there 

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blank and sad, I think. 
That's a really good point 

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though, too, because like you 
said in the last episode, that 

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is one of your essential 
layouts. 

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It's one that you do like to use
time and time again, but there's

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a version of it that doesn't 
work, that cocky, maybe a little

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bit ambitious kind of style, or 
maybe that gap is just a little 

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bit too big to really warrant 
having as many boxes on there as

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you have. 
Yeah, it was. 

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Definitely a fun one too and I'm
gonna go back to it. 

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I liked the design of it, it 
worked well for me and I feel 

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like it was a missed opportunity
of a really great collection 

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page that would have looked very
cool all the way filled out. 

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So maybe my next one after. 
If I ever fill out this new one,

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I'll go back to it and reuse it 
just to bring it back to life. 

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It's always. 
Such a bummerized, like the ones

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that you spend a lot of time, 
effort, energy setting up and 

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they look really good and you're
like, oh, I'm feeling super 

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anxious to get into this. 
I'm going to use it up in all of

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this. 
And then for whatever reason it 

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doesn't happen. 
It is always such a bummer when 

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the ones you've spent effort on 
and the ones that go unused. 

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I hate that. 
It does. 

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It feels like, yeah, a lot of 
effort that just went into 

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nothing. 
And you're just kind of like, 

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well, I'm never doing this 
again. 

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And then you get to your next 
tracker and you're like, 

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actually, no, this is super fun.
I'm going to do something really

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cool or crazy with it. 
Yeah. 

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I'm trying to think if there are
any layouts that I've had like 

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that where like specifically, I 
remember spending a lot of time 

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and intention with it and it 
just didn't really pan out. 

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I'll have to go back through the
archive. 

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Can't think of 1 right now. 
I'm sure there is one though. 

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Well, let's. 
Go into your next one. 

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What's another failed tracker or
collection page? 

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It just hasn't quite cut the 
mustard for you. 

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It took me. 
Such a long time to learn to 

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stop setting this one up because
there were just so many failed 

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attempts. 
And that was a weight tracker, 

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you know, trying to, you know, 
maintain a healthy way to get it

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to a healthier spot, all of that
kind of thing. 

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And you'd always start off with 
a lot of motivation, like, I'm 

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going to do this. 
I'm going to shed the weight, 

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rah, rah. 
And then the one week that it 

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goes up, you're like, yeah, 
stuff this, I'm out of here. 

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Table flip, Boo hiss. 
So many, so many failed attempts

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at this one. 
I have given it up, at least for

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now. 
I'll probably go back to it. 

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I can never learn my lesson, 
really. 

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But yeah, I had it in at least 
four of my previous journals. 

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One of them, I actually just 
ended up taping the pages 

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together because it was so 
demotivating. 

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Because one of the things that I
used to do was like, OK, if the 

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goal to lose X amount of weight 
goes across this many weeks, 

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then this is the kind of like 
ideal trend line going from 

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higher weight to lower weight. 
And as soon as my line started 

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tending against the grain of 
that well off the Cliff of 

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motivation fire, I would like to
possibly bring it back at some 

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stage. 
Again, may not be able to learn 

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my lesson, but I think that I 
just need to approach it 

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differently because I think that
the ways that I've set it up 

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previously didn't really lean 
into realism. 

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Maybe it was just like way more 
kind of idealistic and 

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optimistic the way that I 
approached it. 

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And I do think that having the 
data could be beneficial, but 

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it's just not something that I'm
able to work with right now at 

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the moment. 
Instead, I'm just tracking it 

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via an app on my phone because 
it's not like, so front and 

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center means that I don't 
necessarily kind of focus on the

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number quite as much, I suppose.
But I still have that data there

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to, you know, take to the doctor
and look at my progress and all 

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of that kind of stuff. 
I know exactly what you mean by 

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this. 
So I just started my workout 

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journal. 
I'm going to have a video coming

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up for it shortly. 
And I know exactly what you 

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meant about that motivation. 
So it was like the very first 

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week. 
So, you know, I'll be super open

448
00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:19,240
and transparent because that's 
just me. 

449
00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:21,960
So I started this off at £250, 
right? 

450
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,760
And I was like, OK, Mark, like, 
this is the most ever weighed. 

451
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,080
Like, OK, hell of a starting 
point. 

452
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,360
And so I do my tracker at the 
beginning of every week because 

453
00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:33,160
that's when I have to do a check
in with my coach, right? 

454
00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:36,520
And so the first week was 250, 
and then week two, I was down to

455
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,720
242. 
And I was like, hell yeah, holy 

456
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,600
crap. 
Like, that's incredible. 

457
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,480
I was like, I'm just going to 
keep losing this weight. 

458
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,960
This is great. 
And then this week I did it and 

459
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,720
it stayed at 2:42. 
And I was like, oh, I was like, 

460
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,480
OK. 
I think a big thing for me 

461
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,640
though, too is like mentally 
using this in conjunction with 

462
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,640
other things, right? 
And I definitely can realize, 

463
00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:00,360
look, I was able to lose 8 lbs 
that I do that math correctly. 

464
00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:04,320
Yes, because I cut out, you 
know, all the extra soda, just 

465
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,200
like not paying attention to 
what I was eating. 

466
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,480
There's probably a lot of 
things. 

467
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,480
It definitely wasn't just 
working out because it was a 

468
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,720
week worth of working out. 
So it was whatever. 

469
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,600
But going into this upcoming 
week and I just in my brain, I 

470
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,840
thought, oh, well, you've been 
doing a really good job with 

471
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,160
like cutting down your calories.
You've been doing a great job 

472
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,520
with your workouts. 
I just expected it, but then I 

473
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,200
was just like, it's OK. 
And I think it's because right 

474
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,440
now in my mind, I know that I'm 
also working out four days a 

475
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,160
week. 
I know that I'm watching what 

476
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,760
I'm eating. 
And I think there's, I don't 

477
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,440
know, mentally for some reason 
right now, it makes sense and 

478
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,960
it's I'm OK with it. 
But I know that if I get into 

479
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,400
next week and it is that the 
same exact weight. 

480
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,520
Like that's too much of A 
plateau this early on, you know 

481
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,440
what I'm saying? 
I know exactly what you're 

482
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,320
saying and I think it's hard 
because we're rational people. 

483
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,520
Like we know that it's not just 
going to tend downwards like 

484
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,800
some days if you're doing a 
daily weigh in, which probably 

485
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,320
you're not, you're doing weekly,
but you know, some days, some 

486
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,560
weeks it's going to go up, some 
days, some weeks it's going to 

487
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,080
be the same and someday some 
weeks it's going to go down, 

488
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,080
which, you know, depending on 
your goal, one of those is good,

489
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,400
but you know that it's not going
to be consistent the whole way 

490
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,720
through yet. 
As soon as you get that data 

491
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,120
point that goes against what you
want, it still feels like a kick

492
00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:16,320
in the teeth. 
Oh it. 

493
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,120
Totally does. 
And I'm looking at all of this 

494
00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:21,080
and there's a lot of data that 
I'm going through to like 

495
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,480
calories, steps, workout time, 
all of these these things. 

496
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,520
I think also to my mind, I was 
like, Mark, you're also building

497
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,760
muscle and muscle weighs more 
than fat. 

498
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,960
That's why it's not changing. 
I don't know if that's true. 

499
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,160
After three weeks of doing this 
workout, I don't think I'm like 

500
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,840
doing anything crazy, but I know
exactly what you mean. 

501
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,640
But I think it has to be a 
mindset. 

502
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,400
But one thing I do like about 
these two, and these actually 

503
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,760
probably could go for every 
single one of the trackers that 

504
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,680
we talk about. 
These can be like point in time 

505
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,920
trackers of something that you 
want to pay attention to, right?

506
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,960
Like if you're really concerned 
about how much water your drink 

507
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,200
gain throughout the week and you
want to do that for a week just 

508
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,200
to track it, I think that's 
totally cool. 

509
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,600
And then drop it and never use 
it again, right? 

510
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,400
Or if you want to do something 
like a weight tracker because 

511
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,880
it's something that you're 
thinking of or maybe do for a 

512
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,760
few weeks, I think there's like 
really fun ways to add it into 

513
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,560
your weekly as something to do. 
I think it's just when you do it

514
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,400
every week or you set up a 
monthly one or a yearly or 

515
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,640
whatever, it just feels very 
overwhelming. 

516
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,120
I kind of like to pick and 
choose my trackers off of a 

517
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,320
little shelf in my brain where 
I'm like, oh, this week I want 

518
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,400
to pay attention to to the songs
I listen to the most or I want 

519
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,360
to pay attention to, you know, 
how many new followers I have. 

520
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,120
But do it in small chunks so 
that maybe it's a safety 

521
00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:37,320
mechanism. 
I don't see it do this too much,

522
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,320
like go up and down too much. 
It's like, oh, there's only a 

523
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,280
positive line, you know, up or 
down, whatever you're trying to 

524
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,880
track. 
I just don't want to see the 

525
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,840
long term because that means I 
have to be accountable and you 

526
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,920
know, little. 
I don't want to do that I think.

527
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,200
That's also a good point. 
Like if you want to incorporate 

528
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,040
these kind of trackers into your
layouts or logs or whatnot, and 

529
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,720
you're not too sure if they're 
going to work out for you, do 

530
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,080
what we call an ooch, right? 
Like a little small, kind of 

531
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,280
like test run type deal. 
So rather than setting it up for

532
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,560
the month, set it up for the 
week. 

533
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,120
Rather than setting it up for 
1/2 year, set it up for a month,

534
00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:11,560
see if it works for you. 
And then if it does, maybe we 

535
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,160
can incorporate it into those 
kind of like start of journal 

536
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,080
setups once you kind of get a 
feel for it. 

537
00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:19,120
Because every time I would do 
the weight tracker, I suppose it

538
00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:23,920
would be on like 1/2 year annual
kind of basis. 

539
00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:27,200
Maybe if I try and do it just 
across like a four week period, 

540
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,080
maybe I'll have a little bit 
more motivation to get it done. 

541
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,800
I guess it really kind of came 
back to the range of data I 

542
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,200
wanted to collect there. 
Like I wanted to see it over a 

543
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,880
longer period of time. 
That's why I would set it up for

544
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,600
a longer period of time. 
But if I'm making those smaller 

545
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,160
ones, who's not to say that I 
can't just go back at the end of

546
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,160
the journal and like make a 
layout at the end to kind of 

547
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,160
pull all that data together if I
actually bullet to collect it. 

548
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:52,720
Yeah. 
And. 

549
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,640
You've mentioned it before 
making sure that this is actual 

550
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,200
important data and useful data 
that you're doing, not just 

551
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,400
performative. 
It's probably the other part of 

552
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,600
this too, right? 
If you're just doing a water 

553
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,720
tracker or a weight tracker for 
the standpoint of having an 

554
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,280
aesthetic looking weekly, you 
have no skin in the game really,

555
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,280
right? 
You're just like, oh, I'm going 

556
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,400
to go ahead and fill this out 
and it looks very cool or 

557
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,720
whatever else. 
But if you're not really using 

558
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,960
it or using it, like you said, 
taking this data to your doctor 

559
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,880
or using it for a specific 
workout plan or whatever that 

560
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,120
might be, you also just don't 
really have anything really to 

561
00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:28,360
do with it. 
So it's easier, I think, to just

562
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,920
forget about it and not use it 
anymore because it didn't really

563
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,000
matter at the end of the day. 
Perhaps, Yeah. 

564
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,960
I think it's also thinking about
like the metric versus the goal.

565
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,520
So it's like, if the thing that 
we're actually recording and 

566
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:44,160
keeping track of and all of that
is the weight, yeah, then that 

567
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,520
in turn kind of becomes the 
goal, even though it might not 

568
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,320
necessarily be the goal. 
Like the goal could be to, I 

569
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,600
don't know, have more energy and
just like, you know, eat a wider

570
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,120
range of nutritious foods and 
all of that kind of stuff. 

571
00:25:56,120 --> 00:25:58,040
And it's like if you're not 
keeping track of those things, 

572
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,080
but you're keeping track of 
weight instead, then you just 

573
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,560
kind of slip into a point where 
the weight becomes the main 

574
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,040
focus rather than the other 
things that you're trying to do.

575
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,440
I really like that, Jess. 
That's actually a really 

576
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,160
fantastic point because I mean, 
even from my own perspective, 

577
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,160
like even though that for this 
week has plateaued, I feel 

578
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,000
completely different. 
Like I feel better about it. 

579
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,240
And that's such a good thing to 
think about. 

580
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,240
I think a lot of like coaches, 
and I've heard it before in like

581
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,120
the health profession too, 
especially around weight is like

582
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:30,720
not paying attention to the 
number, but paying attention to 

583
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,000
your body. 
Like as you are doing those 

584
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,120
things like you just mentioned, 
how do you feel that number, 

585
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,880
while to a certain extent might 
be a goal that you're trying to 

586
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,720
hit, but it's really about how 
your body feels instead. 

587
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,120
But it's kind of hard to track 
that though. 

588
00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:47,440
But unless you have like 
happiness tracker, energy 

589
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,640
tracker, I mean, you could do 
more with it perhaps. 

590
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,960
And there's a lot of journals 
that have those icons in it and 

591
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,320
how you're feeling and things 
like that. 

592
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,960
But maybe something different to
add if you have tried it before.

593
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,760
Here we go. 
Like brainstorming, Like, how do

594
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,840
we make this better? 
It's like, yeah, you could track

595
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,320
your weight for all of these 
weeks, but maybe you also track,

596
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,800
like, how are you feeling? 
How much energy do you have? 

597
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,280
So even if the number does go up
a little bit or down or 

598
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,480
plateaus, you know that your 
body feels better about it. 

599
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,000
I mean, that's a good positive 
spin you could put in your brain

600
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,000
a little bit. 
Yeah, I. 

601
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,960
Mean it's the same idea with the
water tracker, right? 

602
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,640
The goal isn't necessarily get 
your 8 cups. 

603
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,920
The goal is to be hydrated. 
So while getting the cups is how

604
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,840
you get to hydration, get the 
hydration. 

605
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,000
It's a location, it's a 
destination now. 

606
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,000
But once you get to hydration, 
did you actually need to take 8 

607
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,160
cups to get there? 
Like there are other ways to 

608
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,200
also get your hydration in. 
So just tracking the 8 cups of 

609
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,400
water and then beating yourself 
up when you only got to seven. 

610
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,600
But like your pay was crystal 
clear. 

611
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,840
Like, come on. 
The goal is to take your color 

612
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,440
tracker from a very dark orange 
yellow to a very pale yellow 

613
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,600
almost clear. 
That's the goal we're looking 

614
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:57,440
for. 
All righty. 

615
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,960
Mark #3 what is your most least 
used layout? 

616
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,160
All right. 
So this is my favorite ever of 

617
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:10,040
all time because it's so iconic.
So a few years ago I decided 

618
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,520
that I was going to start 
running. 

619
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,120
It was over the summer. 
I was here by myself at that 

620
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:18,280
point. 
My girls and my wife were on 

621
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,320
vacation at a beach house, and I
still had to be in the office 

622
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,080
every day. 
I don't have to do that anymore.

623
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,280
So that's why I don't worry 
about this running tracker 

624
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,000
anymore. 
No, it's because every day I was

625
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,480
going to fill it out. 
I was like, OK, Mark, you're 

626
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:30,880
going to run. 
You're going to exercise every 

627
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,680
day. 
And I had two pens. 

628
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,440
I had a red pen and a blue pen, 
and I put my little key. 

629
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,680
Blue meant that I've worked out 
that day and I ran. 

630
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,360
Red meant that I didn't. 
And for the first week, I filled

631
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,280
every single one in red. 
I was like, OK, next week, 

632
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,840
everyone in red for the entire 
month that I tracked this 

633
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,360
running tracker, Jess. 
It is a completely red calendar.

634
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,560
And This is why I've a very 
picky runner. 

635
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,040
I only run when it's a 
comfortable temperature for me. 

636
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,800
So it can't be too hot or too 
cold. 

637
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:10,400
I don't run if it is raining, 
misting any type of weather that

638
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,400
I don't find to be optimal 
running weather. 

639
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,600
And it also turns out that where
I live in the summer, you know, 

640
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,040
it's not that optimal 
temperature that I prefer, which

641
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,560
is in the low 70s. 
So So yeah, it just didn't 

642
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,280
happen for me. 
But you know, looking back on 

643
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,560
this thing now, though, like 
while running was something that

644
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,760
I did do a good amount for 
whatever reason, before I 

645
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,240
started this damn tracker, it's 
just didn't workout. 

646
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,280
And there's been a number of 
workout trackers that I've used 

647
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,560
and they're very simple. 
It's just like a little weight 

648
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,720
and the days of the week and I 
fill it in. 

649
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,560
If I did it and I just never 
ever used them or I would fake 

650
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,760
it in there to be like, oh gosh,
I can't post a picture of this 

651
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,840
and only have only did not have 
many of them filled in. 

652
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,280
Like guess you walked around 
your porch once. 

653
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,880
But it's so interesting now 
thinking about that versus I 

654
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,960
have an entire notebook 
dedicated to it. 

655
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,560
But I think it just has to go 
with it's all about the mindset.

656
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,800
You know, it's just one of those
things where I probably ran a 

657
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,960
few times one month and said, 
Hey, let's make a tracker. 

658
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,200
Let's go ahead and track this 
because like you're going to do 

659
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,720
it, you know, and see how that 
goes and then never doing it. 

660
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,680
So never use that one again, 
ever. 

661
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,560
I. 
Feel like this is the equivalent

662
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,160
of setting up a crocheting 
tracker because you want to get 

663
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,880
into crocheting and then you try
and realize you hate it. 

664
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,120
It was inspirational, that's 
what it was, sure. 

665
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,960
Aspirational rather than 
realistic. 

666
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,040
I can completely understand that
because I have previously used 

667
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,000
step trackers, which I do tend 
to get more than one step a day.

668
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,760
So there's usually data to put 
on there. 

669
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,520
But yeah, thank you. 
I'm a St. but in terms of the 

670
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,960
scale that I would set up for 
that, because I'd always do it 

671
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,680
as a little bar graph. 
Oh no, never get to the highest 

672
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:54,800
number. 
So I kind of got to the point, 

673
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,240
like, first of all, why are we 
putting in any of this? 

674
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,240
Because it's very much 
demotivating. 

675
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,560
And secondly, why are you 
setting it up so that the bar is

676
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,240
as long as it is when you know 
you're going to be kicking down 

677
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,840
around the low thousands? 
I've done the same exact thing. 

678
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,080
I, because of this plan that I'm
doing that I have to track my 

679
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,600
steps. 
I think the first week they put 

680
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,400
like 8000 steps was my goal. 
And that entire week I never hit

681
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,080
it. 
And I was just like, I, I work 

682
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,680
remote like I sit at my desk 
most days, but I'm working out 

683
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,160
for 3045 minutes, you know, 
every other day, whatever. 

684
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,680
They're like, OK, Mark, like 
just, you know, try to try to 

685
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,320
improve it a little bit. 
And then when I went to the the 

686
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,440
next week, I noticed it was like
one day was like, 

687
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,040
congratulations, you hit your 
goal. 

688
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,920
And I was like, awesome. 
And it was like 7500. 

689
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,080
Like they lowered the the goal 
for me to be able to hit it. 

690
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,680
I appreciated that, honestly. 
But now it's just one of those 

691
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,160
things where I don't put down a 
tracker in a graph point for 

692
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,920
exactly the point you just 
mentioned. 

693
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,120
I just write down what the 
number is at the end of the day.

694
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,640
And then I look at it and review
it and I'm like, yeah, Mark, you

695
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,040
could do a little bit better. 
But I think it's the same thing 

696
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,800
that the social media tracker, 
right? 

697
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,960
It's just like, oh, yeah, like 
this is going to go really well.

698
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,160
Like this is, I'm going to do 
this and you're like 20,000 

699
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,200
steps is the highest point you 
can get a day. 

700
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,280
And like, maybe marathon runners
or other people, if you go to 

701
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,360
Disney, you're getting 20,000 
steps. 

702
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,400
But I think the average Joe 
maybe is getting 8000 or so. 

703
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,920
Like I would Max it at 10, I 
feel like. 

704
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,320
And I'd be really happy if I got
to like 5. 

705
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,120
Yeah. 
Well, we're halfway through the 

706
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,280
day, like it's about 1:30 when 
we're recording this. 

707
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,960
My time not marks time. 
I have got 900 steps today, so. 

708
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,880
But that's it. 
I work from home so I don't have

709
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,800
to commute to anywhere. 
I work at a desk so there's not 

710
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,080
a lot of walking around. 
I got 917 steps from walking 

711
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,680
back and forth to the printer 
today. 

712
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,240
So yeah, believes a bit to be 
desired. 

713
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,560
And especially when you're 
setting up a tracker where it's 

714
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,960
like up to 10K steps and then 
you're barely breaking 1000 each

715
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,520
day, it's super demotivating. 
So yeah, no, I. 

716
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,400
Don't even know. 
You should talk to somebody and 

717
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,200
be like, for someone who's 
remote, completely stationary 

718
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,400
and sedentary, what is a good 
goal for me? 

719
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,320
Be like, Jess, please just stand
up every 30 minutes. 

720
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,520
Like, that's good enough for us.
Yeah. 

721
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,400
Please stand up. 
Yeah, kind of roll. 

722
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,840
Around on your chair a little 
bit. 

723
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,480
Do you know, just do this? 
Yeah. 

724
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,480
Chair yoga. 
I know chair yoga's a thing. 

725
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,200
I have not investigated it, but 
I do also recognize that getting

726
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,880
1000 steps only actually takes 
10 minutes. 

727
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,280
But it's this like mental block.
I feel like that just feels like

728
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,160
too much effort. 
I'm like, you could just do laps

729
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,600
in your kitchen for 10 minutes. 
Not going to though. 

730
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,840
That's what people. 
People are like, oh, walk up and

731
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,320
down your steps 30 times. 
I'm like, there's nothing fun 

732
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,440
about doing that at all. 
It's different. 

733
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,840
When I was at work and I would 
go into the office, we had a 

734
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,440
pond that had like, I think it 
was like 1/4 of a mile around 

735
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,360
it. 
It felt like 2 miles long, but 

736
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,000
it was only 1/4 of a mile. 
But that would be something that

737
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,360
I would try to do often. 
But it was fun. 

738
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,400
It was like you were walking 
around with somebody. 

739
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,840
You were talking about work and 
you were, you know, avoiding the

740
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,640
geese and looking at the deer 
that were in the woods or 

741
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,440
whatever. 
And you just did that a few 

742
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,200
times and I was like, oh, look 
at me go. 

743
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,199
But there's nothing really fun 
to do. 

744
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:14,600
And I need extra entertainment 
while I'm doing an activity to 

745
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,480
really get me motivated about 
it. 

746
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,480
So yeah, I get you on that. 
No one's doing those things. 

747
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,080
I'm not doing those things. 
Let's say no one. 

748
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,040
There are people who are very 
good people. 

749
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,199
That's not me. 
Let us. 

750
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:26,000
Know who are you? 
Why are you doing this now? 

751
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,480
I'm kidding, but yeah, I'm 
exactly the same. 

752
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,120
I need some kind of 
entertainment or something to, 

753
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,520
like, distract me from the fact 
that I'm working out. 

754
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,920
That's why I couldn't do yoga. 
I tried yoga. 

755
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,239
I set up a kind of like workout 
tracker of some description 

756
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,239
where I would colour in each box
with what type of workout I'd 

757
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,679
done or like, what type of 
exercise I partook in. 

758
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,840
And there was one day that I did
yoga and I thought to myself, 

759
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,400
yeah, never again. 
Because this was so flipping 

760
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,880
boring. 
Because you have to focus on 

761
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,080
what they're talking about. 
You have to listen to the 

762
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,200
instructions, otherwise you're 
gonna stretch wrong and like, 

763
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,960
break your back or something. 
I don't know. 

764
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,920
Whereas I I would rather just be
able to walk on the elliptical 

765
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,400
and watch Gossip Girl. 
That sounds way more appealing, 

766
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,160
yeah. 
Or just sit on the couch and 

767
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,040
watch Gossip Girl also. 
An option. 

768
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,600
I like that one too. 
I also just love how many of our

769
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,600
most failed layouts are like 
health and exercise. 

770
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,880
Really. 
Oh no. 

771
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,840
Hey. 
I'm trying to be better about 

772
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,320
it, but I also have to worry 
about my heart health and not 

773
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,440
have a heart attack in my mid 
40s. 

774
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,640
So, you know, I just needed a 
little kick in the ass. 

775
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,400
Yeah, no. 
I've set up a health journal as 

776
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,000
well. 
I don't think that mine is quite

777
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,400
the same as yours. 
It doesn't really have like 

778
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,240
trackers kind of in it, but it 
does have more like health 

779
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:39,760
related research notes and 
things like that, which I have 

780
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,000
been enjoying. 
All right. 

781
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,720
Jess, what is your number one 
worst use? 

782
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:47,880
Never used, never doing ever 
again Collection page. 

783
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,600
This one was hard because when I
was trying to think about the 

784
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,760
layouts, so many different ones 
came to mind, but they all came 

785
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,400
back to the fact that whenever I
set them up, I didn't go in with

786
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,720
a clear intention. 
I didn't kind of, you know, 

787
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,200
section things out properly and 
give things like appropriate 

788
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,840
headers and stuff like that. 
One example, for instance, is 

789
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,040
that at the start of this year I
set up a 5 by 5 bingo board, but

790
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,000
never specified what was going 
to go on the bingo board, so it 

791
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,920
didn't be used. 
Eventually I decided, oh, I'm 

792
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,280
going to record like my dates 
out with Vogel, but that, yeah, 

793
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,720
it didn't really work. 
We took more than two dates, but

794
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:27,040
I think I only filled 2IN. 
But if I don't go into a layout 

795
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,960
knowing very specifically what 
it's going to be used for and 

796
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,040
actually scaffolding it out 
properly so that it can fit that

797
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,720
use, it does not get used. 
Another example would be like a 

798
00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:42,520
page that I set up, my started 
journal set up to say like, oh, 

799
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,320
this is what we're going to do 
in reset week. 

800
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,480
Like this is going to be the 
page that's dedicated to 

801
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,120
planning out reset week and 
planning out your next journal 

802
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,800
setup or whatever. 
But I never went and actually 

803
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,880
put things in for like, you 
know, capturing specific types 

804
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,760
of information or any kind of 
scaffolding. 

805
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,440
It was literally a blank page 
with a title and thus did not 

806
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,720
get used. 
You make. 

807
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:03,760
A really good point. 
I think this is probably the 

808
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,680
moral of the entire episode is 
that these have to have an 

809
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,160
actual intention. 
I think most of them have an 

810
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,320
intention, but it has to be 
something that you kind of want 

811
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,040
to do, right? 
To like actually want to follow 

812
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,280
through on it, have some type of
motivation. 

813
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,800
Yeah, I definitely can 
understand what you're saying 

814
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,280
here, but I don't even know how 
you could create a spread or an 

815
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,960
idea without an idea. 
I don't even know. 

816
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,280
I don't know how that works. 
I'm. 

817
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,080
Obviously a wizard because I've 
managed it multiple times. 

818
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,720
You're like. 
Here's a bingo cardboard I'm 

819
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,080
thinking of. 
I say you're like, oh, for the 

820
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,120
dates I'm like, oh, are you like
pre filling like different 

821
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,280
places you want to go or you 
just adding them on? 

822
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,800
It's it's a bake your own bingo 
board, but you can never win. 

823
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,720
I know, right? 
See, that would have been smart.

824
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,520
I ended up really just using it 
as a place to kind of capture 

825
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,520
information rather than like a 
kind of challenge, I suppose. 

826
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,240
And I never went and actually 
decided how I wanted to use it 

827
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,000
because one idea was, oh, I'm 
going to use this to capture 

828
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,120
like the top 25 things from my 
101 things list. 

829
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,400
And I'm going to put that in 
there. 

830
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,600
But I didn't do it because I 
never actually set it up with 

831
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,080
that in mind. 
Oh it. 

832
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,960
Makes total sense. 
You create a page with nothing 

833
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,560
that you know you want to do 
with it, but nothing happens to 

834
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:16,200
it. 
Yeah, look. 

835
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,720
At this beautiful layout with 
two columns for something. 

836
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,200
I'll come up with the idea 
later, but. 

837
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,440
See, The thing is the number of 
times I do that, though, the 

838
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,200
number of times I scaffold out a
page like Oh yeah, this is like 

839
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,040
the general idea. 
Like in general it's going to be

840
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,120
a reflection space, but I don't 
specify what I I'm reflecting 

841
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,280
on, so then I don't reflect on 
anything I think. 

842
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,440
That's really the the big thing 
about all of these is that you 

843
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,320
have to know exactly what you're
trying to do with it and you 

844
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,080
have to think about it. 
I've been recently with some of 

845
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,520
my bullet journal setup videos 
been thinking about getting back

846
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,760
into the plan with me is but 
taking your advice and coupling 

847
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,320
them together instead. 
It's just one offs, but I always

848
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,320
plan out my pages regardless of 
if I'm recording it or not, just

849
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:06,600
because I can't go into a page 
without an idea of what I'm 

850
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,280
doing. 
One, because I'll make a huge 

851
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,120
mistake with a pen or a marker 
or miscount or do whatever. 

852
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,840
Hell, I I do that even when I 
pencil in my pages. 

853
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,240
But a lot of the times I just 
think about it, especially with 

854
00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:20,200
trackers when we talked about 
what's the number, what's the 

855
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,560
increments that we're doing with
that, I have to do the math 

856
00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:27,440
before I start doing anything or
else it's just going to become a

857
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,160
mass. 
And especially with like any 

858
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,000
type of data visualization, like
I love data vis. 

859
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,680
I think it's amazing as a 
designer, spent plenty of time 

860
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,480
visualizing data. 
But that's one of the reasons I 

861
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,520
love bullet journaling so much 
and tracking some things. 

862
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,920
It's just as it is fun to 
visualize that. 

863
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,960
But you do have to think about 
what does that look like? 

864
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,400
You know, if it's something that
is manageable. 

865
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,080
Am I doing it in the 10's? 
The hundreds, the thousands, 

866
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,400
whatever that might be. 
Being realistic about it, 

867
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,440
pushing yourself, especially if 
it is something that you can 

868
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,760
actually control. 
That's a big thing that I've 

869
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,360
learned as well, especially with
like the Instagram trackers, is 

870
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:09,000
that I can't fully control how 
many new followers I get. 

871
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,440
I can do everything that 
Instagram gods are asking of me 

872
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,480
and that doesn't guarantee it. 
Versus something like a weight 

873
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,280
tracker or an exercise tracker 
or something like that. 

874
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,720
Like I can control how many reps
I do with how much weight if I 

875
00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:25,080
wanted to push. 
Myself on it, I'm not tracking 

876
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,560
anything like that right now, 
but I think that makes a really 

877
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,440
big difference in it as well. 
But that's just a part of 

878
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,400
planning. 
So no wonder the not knowing 

879
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,520
what you're doing with the page 
because it doesn't have a label 

880
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,520
that it workout because yeah, 
your brains like I'm not 

881
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,320
connecting. 
This does not compute. 

882
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:41,840
Does not compute. 
Yeah. 

883
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,960
And I try and avoid it, but yet 
it still seems to creep back 

884
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,120
into my setups one way or 
another. 

885
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,680
Usually it's because I need like
a page filler. 

886
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,640
Usually it's just like, oh, I 
need to set something up here 

887
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,360
and I have a vague enough idea 
about what I want to do with it 

888
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,560
that I set it up in a certain 
structure, but I don't fully 

889
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,440
flesh out the idea. 
So I don't go in and like, label

890
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,160
things appropriately and that 
kind of stuff. 

891
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,440
So it's very much what you said 
is like putting in the 

892
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,240
forethought, making sure that 
you kind of know the intentions 

893
00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:12,560
for a page, knowing how it's 
going to be used, what kind of 

894
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,360
data it's going to be capturing 
or information or whatnot. 

895
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,800
You know, picking your axes 
labels appropriately so that you

896
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,280
don't have a scale that doesn't 
make sense for the stuff that 

897
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,680
you're going to be capturing 
there and stuff that you're 

898
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,080
going to be capturing in a way 
that isn't demotivating. 

899
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,360
Like all of these kind of little
pieces that you can think about 

900
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,640
before you put pen to paper, 
which can be very useful. 

901
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,520
And sometimes we don't put in 
that forethought and we end up 

902
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,160
setting up things that they're 
just not really going to work 

903
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,440
for the way that we like to 
plan. 

904
00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:39,400
Womp. 
Womp. 

905
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,240
And you just you said that as a 
fail, you go ahead and reflect 

906
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:44,520
on it and you never do it again.
Put it to. 

907
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,320
Bed. 
But we'd love to know though, 

908
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,480
what kind of layouts, trackers, 
logs, whatever else. 

909
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,880
What kind of things have you 
been setting up in your journals

910
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,400
and planners? 
Maybe a couple of times, maybe 

911
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,680
only once and it just doesn't 
work out. 

912
00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:59,640
You could be like us setting it 
up a couple of times and 

913
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,960
realizing maybe we need to put 
this one to bed or it could have

914
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,400
been like a one and done. 
Set it up once, absolutely never

915
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,000
again. 
Let us know either in the 

916
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,120
comments or you can e-mail us at
plan from palspodcast@gmail.com.

917
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,280
Absolutely. 
Well, our next episode, Jess, 

918
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,960
we're going to do a really fun 
one. 

919
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,640
I've been looking forward to 
this one probably since we 

920
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,200
started because we were planning
on all these cool ideas. 

921
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,400
We're going to do a community 
Q&A episode, so we have to rely 

922
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,720
on you, our planner pals, to 
come up with questions that 

923
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:31,400
you're curious about. 
They could be about planning. 

924
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,680
They could be about previous 
episodes or things that we've 

925
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,240
talked about. 
They could be completely off the

926
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:37,680
wall. 
Random questions. 

927
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,400
Let us know. 
We're going to go pile all of 

928
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,520
those and we have a fantastic 
episode of answering those. 

929
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,120
There are a few ways that you 
can get in touch with us to ask 

930
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,640
these questions. 
You could e-mail us Planner Pals

931
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,400
podcast@gmail.com. 
You could also drop a comment in

932
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,800
this video or on the podcast as 
well after you leave your other 

933
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,640
one about your most failed ones.
We'll filter them out, don't 

934
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,800
worry. 
Or if you want, we are also 

935
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,080
going to put Q&A's up on our 
social medias as well. 

936
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,920
So you can check that out at 
Planner Pals Podcast on 

937
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,640
Instagram. 
We'll also put them in the 

938
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,880
community feed for you as well. 
Just ask the question, we'll 

939
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,920
collect them and then we'll 
answer them in our next episode,

940
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,360
which I'm very much looking 
forward to I'm. 

941
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,360
Interested to see what people 
want to know either about like, 

942
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,880
you know, differences and points
of view between us about things 

943
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,920
or about like the planet 
community in general. 

944
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,280
It's always like a very big can 
of worms that you can open with 

945
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,080
these kind of things. 
So I'm trusting you, planet 

946
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,040
pals, don't lead us astray on 
this one. 

947
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,400
But for today, thank you for 
watching.