1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,080 Welcome to the Flanner Pals Podcast, a podcast hosted by two 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,840 true planner pals. I'm Jess or Jessica and. 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,080 My name is Mark and I go by Mark your pages. 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,960 And today's episode is going to be awesome, Jess, because we're 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,200 going to be talking about unpopular opinions in the 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,840 planner and stationary space. I got a bunch of messages that 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,640 was like, oh, y'all are going to go ahead and start goofing on 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,080 planning. Good luck. 9 00:00:23,080 --> 00:00:25,720 And I was like, well, it makes for a fantastic topic. 10 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,560 No, IA 100% agree. And I know sometimes with these 11 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,400 kind of topics, people can get a a little bit like, oh gosh, are 12 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,760 we like veering into like 2 negative a territory. 13 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,320 This is all meant to be fun. These are all opinions. 14 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:37,680 All right? We're not saying that any of 15 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,400 these are fact. If there's something that we 16 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,840 kind of say, Oh yeah, I kind of agree with that opinion. 17 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,760 That does not mean that you are planning wrong. 18 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,920 It does not mean that your planner is not valid. 19 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,760 So do not worry. We're just going to have a 20 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,120 little bit of fun with us and see what some unpopular opinions 21 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,680 in the planning space are and whether we agree or disagree 22 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,840 with those. And remember, these are all from 23 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,720 planner pals. This is not us saying these 24 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,560 things. I didn't even add any of my own. 25 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,480 Unpopular real opinions. We're strictly reacting to the 26 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,760 community, so Jess wanted to go and get started with the first 27 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,000 unpopular planner opinion. So this one was I don't like the 28 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,480 aesthetic of the elastic bands keeping journal shut. 29 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,400 If a journal has one, I won't get it. 30 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,760 I mean, what journals don't have that? 31 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,800 I think what the Baron fig one at least didn't have one, my 32 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,080 Baron fig one didn't. But then I just ended up getting 33 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,440 an elastic band and putting it over the front because I do like 34 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,560 an elastic closure even though I don't really take my journal out 35 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,000 with me anymore. I just it feels more secure if 36 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,800 it's secure. Oh I'm the same way. 37 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,040 My journal's at my desk most of the time and at the end of the 38 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,880 day when I'm done, I still bind it up with the elastic. 39 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,920 That's just that's what you do. It's a weird unpopular opinion. 40 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,560 I don't agree. I don't personally agree, but at 41 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,280 least you've like kind of recognize that about the way 42 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,840 that you like to journal and what you like. 43 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,600 Because we have some people out there who they still want the 44 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,920 journal with like the pretty cover that has the elastic. 45 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,720 And then they're out there just like journal surgery and just 46 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,960 like cutting the elastics off. I'm like, Oh no, poor precious. 47 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,320 Like I get it, if you're not going to use it, fair. 48 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,680 I'd probably be more inclined to just tuck it into the back 49 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,000 cover. But if they get kind of 50 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,920 stretched out then they don't really sit nicely. 51 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,680 So journal surgery is the only way forward. 52 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,720 Yeah, I feel it's a very limiting though. 53 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,200 Isn't that like I feel like most journals now have the elastic 54 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,640 closure. So I feel like you're limiting 55 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:22,160 yourself to maybe like a handful of notebooks out there, but hey, 56 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:23,800 you do. You it also could be just 57 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,160 because like I know that's my personal preference. 58 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,400 So I'm not necessarily looking for journal brands that don't 59 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,200 have elastic the closures. Maybe there's like a plethora 60 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,560 out there and I'm just like, you know, all over my eyes. 61 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,640 Just don't know they exist. So the next hot tape that we 62 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:42,760 have here in popular opinion here is that PET tapes are 63 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,600 superior to washi tape. And honestly, I'm not going to 64 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,160 lie, I don't know the difference between each one of these. 65 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,720 Mark, you call yourself a planner, pal. 66 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,920 Oh my gosh. I know what washi tape is, but 67 00:02:55,920 --> 00:03:00,160 PET tape, What I think about it, I think about is that the type 68 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,600 of stickers that have the paper on the back of them that you 69 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,400 have to peel off. Well, they do often have an 70 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,520 adhesive on the back or like what something that they're 71 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,440 adhered to rather, but PET is a plastic tape. 72 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,680 Effectively, it's typically the ones that are a bit transparent 73 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,240 unless you're getting like a full coverage design or whatnot. 74 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,600 But the best part I find about those ones is that you have 75 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,200 individual elements or items on the roll. 76 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,520 You can kind of fussy cut them out or sometimes there's kiss 77 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,680 cut, which is really nice. But because they're on a 78 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,480 transparent backing, they blend really nicely into your pages, 79 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:33,200 which effectively makes it look like you drew it yourself, even 80 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,120 though you might not have artistic talent like that. 81 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,280 OK. I think I've seen you use them 82 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,000 before, like on like the corners of some of your pages where 83 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,160 you've done things. OK, that makes sense. 84 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:47,640 I mean, I guess for my opinion there on that one is, does PET 85 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,480 tape come in as many varieties as washi tape? 86 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,360 Because I feel like washi tape is like a dime a dozen. 87 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,960 I mean, I guess they kind of in my mind, they feel different 88 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,960 needs a lot of the time. Like you can get some designs 89 00:03:59,960 --> 00:04:02,600 that they do both in washy and in PET. 90 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,240 Like the washy tape shop in particular does a lot of their 91 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,880 designs as either just so that people who have a preference 92 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,280 either way have the option. But in my mind, you don't get a 93 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,320 lot of the kind of like 1 1/2 centimetre rolls with the kind 94 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,000 of repeating pattern and such in PET tape. 95 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,120 PET tape is typically not for those kind of designs. 96 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,760 You see them for other things. In terms of whether we have a 97 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,520 larger or smaller range for either. 98 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,280 I feel like the rise of the PET tape is definitely here because 99 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,520 in terms of bringing things into my collection, I've been 100 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,440 bringing in a lot more PET tapes than I have washy tapes. 101 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,040 And my drawers are looking a little bit full and they 102 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,560 probably need to do a declutter but I don't want to do because I 103 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,240 like the tapes and I don't want to get rid of them. 104 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:43,960 I guess I have to try about more. 105 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,360 I just have so much washy tape from over the years. 106 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,240 Honestly. Like I said, I didn't realize 107 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,400 there was even much of a difference, but now I know so. 108 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,400 But be on the lookout for something cool like that maybe 109 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:57,400 and really see if that is true. Is pet tape superior to washy 110 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:58,960 Undecided over here? I don't know. 111 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,000 Next one we have is one or two colors is fine. 112 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,880 Why clutter your page up with decor? 113 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,520 Where do you plan it? Doesn't have to be pretty. 114 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:09,840 I mean, this is one that we hear so often. 115 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:13,840 So as an unpopular opinion, I mean, I agree with it because 116 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:18,720 that's how I plan, but I also, for me personally, don't care 117 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,760 how you do it as long as you are actually doing. 118 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,840 If you're planning, this is the important part. 119 00:05:22,840 --> 00:05:25,360 I think about that statement and that's why it's probably an 120 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,040 unpopular opinion here is because we've talked about this 121 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,960 before. It's when you have so much stuff 122 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,360 on your page, you leave no room whatsoever to actually plan. 123 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,320 Maybe you're not exactly planning or maybe you'll call it 124 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,840 something different. But I really do believe like 125 00:05:38,840 --> 00:05:41,560 everyone needs to find their own way of doing it. 126 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,000 That's a That's a hard one. Yeah, I think that for me, 127 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,320 because I do, I love a checklist, I need to have a lot 128 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,760 of space on my layouts to allow for that stuff. 129 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,800 So I do tend to kind of focus my decoration into particular parts 130 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,720 of the page normally like the corners or the edges or 131 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,480 something like that, so that I can still fit my planning space 132 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,800 in. But we do see some content out 133 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,480 there that is kind of like marked as planning where it is 134 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,960 more decorating. And I'm not necessarily sad 135 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,360 about it. It's just not the kind of 136 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:11,800 content that I personally like to. 137 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,960 But if you start to get people into a headspace of like, oh, 138 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,280 well, if I don't fill my page with decoration, then I'm not 139 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:21,080 doing planning right. That's that's something that I 140 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,760 probably would take some issues with. 141 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,320 This is an unpopular opinion and I don't know how much of our 142 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,280 planner pals are into fountain pens, but I did get one from the 143 00:06:28,280 --> 00:06:32,600 community that said gold nibs on fountain pens are overrated. 144 00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:35,920 And this one that I can actually agree with because you can get 145 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,640 these 24 karat nibs and I'm always like, why are you getting 146 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,360 like nicer pen nibs than you are? 147 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,800 Like maybe jewelry that you have on you, but supposedly it makes 148 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,240 it softer as you're running with it. 149 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,520 But I've used a gold nib, an actual 24 karat. 150 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,200 I don't think I have one myself. There's not much of a difference 151 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,480 with it. So I agree with that to a 152 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,280 certain extent. I know there are people who are 153 00:06:58,280 --> 00:07:01,840 very strict and specific about what they like their material 154 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:04,960 made out of, but it does feel weird using a pen nib that you 155 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,920 know is made out of gold. You're like, though, this is 156 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:12,040 really made out of gold, okay? I think I take more issue with 157 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,120 gold leaf on food. I'm like you just gonna eat 158 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,600 that? Like what's the point? 159 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,720 I personally don't have a very strong opinion on this one. 160 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,280 I have but one fountain pen. She is beautiful. 161 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,120 She does not have a gold nib. I think it's been a while since 162 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,160 I've seen her. I haven't gotten her out of my 163 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,560 pencil case for a second. She does not have a gold bib. 164 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,960 But I think that if if there's like a function for having the 165 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,560 gold nib, then I guess it makes sense. 166 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,360 Like you kind of mentioned the softer writing, but also maybe 167 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,200 it's like a status thing. I don't know. 168 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,640 It's like why people go and go and get like Rolex watches and 169 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,720 stuff. It doesn't necessarily like tell 170 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,560 the time any better, but it's a status symbol to have that, 171 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,640 unlike my beautiful fugly Fitbit that I got reamed out for one 172 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,880 time in the comments. I love them for that. 173 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,320 Yeah. And it is always something too, 174 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,160 when I see it where it's like 24 karat gold nibber or whatever it 175 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,920 is, it makes the pen so much more expensive. 176 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,480 And especially if you're are you looking at a pen that's pretty 177 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,640 expensive and you add that on top of it, it just, Oh my God, 178 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,400 it sends the price skyrocketing. So that's also a reason why I 179 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,800 stay away from it too. Like if you can get the same 180 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,920 general writing style with a non gold nib, why not save that 181 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,440 extra cash for another pen? Cheap or inexpensive notebooks 182 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,520 can be as good as expensive ones. 183 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,160 I would agree with this, but it depends. 184 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,040 It depends on what kind of cheap you're getting. 185 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:34,559 Like if we're getting the $1.50 kind of notebook from the back 186 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,039 to school bargain bin or something, that personally is 187 00:08:38,039 --> 00:08:40,240 not going to be for me. The paper is not going to hold 188 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,000 up to what I want to do with my notebook. 189 00:08:42,159 --> 00:08:44,960 But we do have notebooks that have what I'm going to call 190 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,000 better quality paper and your definition of better, whatever 191 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,160 you want to call it, planner pallets or goods, doesn't 192 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,720 necessarily have to be 160 GSM dot grid like I like, but you 193 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:59,720 can get notebooks that have the quote better paper at a more 194 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,440 cost effective price. You just have to know where to 195 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,520 look a lot of the time. That doesn't mean that I 196 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,840 necessarily have many of them in my collection, but you can do 197 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,640 it. Yeah, I would actually agree 198 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,960 with you completely. I think at first my gut reaction 199 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,400 is no, no, that's not true. But you're absolutely right. 200 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,640 It's all about like the branding and you know, is it more of a 201 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,280 luxury brand? Is it a more inexpensive brand? 202 00:09:21,560 --> 00:09:23,960 But you do have to kind of test and see. 203 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,600 I mean, I've definitely had experiences with other paper or 204 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,080 other notebooks. It'll say, oh, I'm 160 GSM. 205 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,040 That's just the type of paper that I like to use and I'll use 206 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,680 it. I'll be like, no, something's 207 00:09:33,680 --> 00:09:36,000 off. Like no, it's a different type 208 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,920 of paper. It's not something's not right 209 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,080 here, but it's significantly less money. 210 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,520 But there have been somewhere I've gotten for like half the 211 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,480 price of like Archer and Olive is what I buy a lot of. 212 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,080 It's like half the price and I'm like, oh, OK, look at you. 213 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,600 OK, this works out pretty nicely too. 214 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,480 But you really have to test it out. 215 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,360 And then I feel like then you're just buying notebooks to try it. 216 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,160 And then what if you don't like it and then you're wasting 217 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,040 money? They need to buy another one and 218 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,160 you should have just bought the one that you wanted that was a 219 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,800 little bit more expensive in the 1st place. 220 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,600 That's how my brain works. Yeah, no, that is completely 221 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,280 fair. It's, it's always a bummer when 222 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,200 you try and, you know, cut costs or something 'cause you're like, 223 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,320 oh, I think that this will work fine for what I need to do. 224 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,960 Like, it won't be like the best of the best, the top tier or 225 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,000 whatever, but it'll get the job done. 226 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,000 And then you get it. You're like, I mean, I guess the 227 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,960 job's getting done, but at what cost? 228 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,720 Where is the joy thing? And it doesn't necessarily have 229 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,160 to be for notebooks specifically. 230 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,720 It can be for other materials and whatnot, like, you know, 231 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,800 inks or pens or anything like that. 232 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,240 You know, you get particular brands of like dot markers, for 233 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,120 instance, where they put the dot down really nicely, whereas 234 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,080 other ones, maybe it dumps a bit more ink and now you've got 235 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,800 splooge on your notebook and it bleeds through to the other side 236 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,400 and you're like, cool, I saved money on the dot pen, but now my 237 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,360 page is fungly so. Jess, why do you have splooge on 238 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,320 your paper? Pen splooge. 239 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,200 Pen's Splooge. Oh, Pen's splooge. 240 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,280 OK, just making sure. All right, I'm going to combine 241 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,960 these two because someone wrote dot grid suck and then someone 242 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:02,680 else wrote grid paper is superior. 243 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:07,160 A lot of superiority going on to line and dot grid paper. 244 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,840 I love this one because I also got this one as well, and I 245 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,160 think that honestly, grid paper that we should have more of it. 246 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,320 I actually really like a grid paper. 247 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,880 I'd use it for my brainstorming book, my scribblebook kind of 248 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,640 thing because I find that getting thoughts out of my head 249 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,040 on that type of paper is super satisfying. 250 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,640 But for my everyday plan, planning and journaling and 251 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,000 such, I would prefer a dot grid. I would just like there to be 252 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,280 more options. I would like there to be more 253 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,760 notebooks that have grid paper that are accessible to more 254 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,000 people. That would be nice. 255 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,320 Yeah, I completely agree with you. 256 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,720 I have some really nice grid notebooks, but it's none that I 257 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,400 use for my bullet journaling, just exactly like you said. 258 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,800 I also think it's because it's something different and I know a 259 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,880 lot of people don't love the dot grids because they either have a 260 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,720 hard time seeing some of the dots or they have a really hard 261 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,840 time like visualizing the vertical and horizontal lines. 262 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,800 That way. My eyes are trained I feel like 263 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,080 just to look at it that way anyway, so I don't have an issue 264 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:00,720 there. So I can see why they would like 265 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,000 it. I just think aesthetically it 266 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,160 looks cooler, kind of gives you a grid within a grid, especially 267 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,160 if you're the grid layout type of person, and it just makes it 268 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,560 look much cooler. I don't know something about it. 269 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:12,320 I definitely feel this one. Yeah. 270 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,080 I think we should also have more like triangular grid and 271 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,480 hexagonal grid. But I like your point about that 272 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,000 kind of like accessibility of it. 273 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,920 I know that for people who have like a visual impairment or some 274 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,280 kind of like, you know, optical blindness, it is a lot easier to 275 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,120 see a full grid than a dock grid. 276 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,080 And also having certain dock grids that have like, you know, 277 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,600 really, really faint dots versus the darker ones. 278 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,080 Often those darker ones or the ones that are slightly larger 279 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,320 are going to be better for people who find it hard to see 280 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,000 those very faint, very small pale grey dots. 281 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,800 So it looks like we agree with this unpopular opinion, even 282 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,720 though we don't use a lot of it necessarily. 283 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,000 Every single day. That's definitely a good one I 284 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,080 think. I like this one that just said 285 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,320 if you don't like thin paper, don't buy thin paper. 286 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,280 It's gonna go store bleed. I'm like, yes, fact. 287 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,960 I don't think that's an opinion. Nope, you're right. 288 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,680 Totally. Facts next. 289 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,400 Exactly. I'm like, yeah, It's one of 290 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,120 those things that oftentimes you don't necessarily know until you 291 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,720 start using it. You know, you don't necessarily 292 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,560 know your preferences with notebooks, especially when 293 00:13:09,560 --> 00:13:11,440 you're just getting into planning and such. 294 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,760 For instance, you know, starting with an Lt. 1917 because that's 295 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,560 what everybody in the community was using. 296 00:13:16,560 --> 00:13:20,520 And I did like it to start with. But after about 3 notebooks, I'm 297 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:21,920 like, yeah, now this isn't the vibe. 298 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,400 I can see everything from one side of the page to the other. 299 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:27,560 And I know for some people that is very much they're like happy 300 00:13:27,560 --> 00:13:29,240 place, this is not my happy place. 301 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,560 I talk about it all the time that it's not mine. 302 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:33,680 But it's really hard though, because I think for people who 303 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:37,200 like notebooks like Hobonichi, and I think the sterling ink 304 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,640 paper is pretty thin too, it is it's, I mean, it's a part of 305 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,160 like the culture I feel like of those notebooks. 306 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,640 But that's where I can have to draw the line though. 307 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,720 It's just like people think they want it because so many people 308 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,920 talk about it. Someone I work with actually was 309 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,760 like Mark, I got a Hobonichi. I heard a lot of people in the 310 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,520 planet space talking about it, and she had come to visit and I 311 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:57,920 was letting her use one of my fountain pen. 312 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,320 She's like, Oh my gosh, did I tell you? 313 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,360 I stopped using my Hobonichi said I could not handle the fact 314 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,040 that I could see my writing on the other side. 315 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,520 She's like, I'm so bummed because I spent a good amount of 316 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,560 money on this and it kind of feeds right into this unpopular 317 00:14:11,560 --> 00:14:13,640 opinion where it's just like, but if you know that it's thin 318 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:18,040 paper and that's the selling feature of it, what made you 319 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,440 think that it was going to react me differently? 320 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,800 Yeah, no, I am very much the kind of person who knows that 321 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,480 they would not actually enjoy using a Hobonichi, but is 322 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,400 incredibly curious about a Hobonichi. 323 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,000 I think it must be really hard for the planet pals who have a 324 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,600 particular structure of planet that they absolutely love. 325 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,920 They're like, that is my perfect structure on completely the 326 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,480 wrong kind of paper. Like maybe it's because they 327 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:41,840 want to use fountain pens or whatnot. 328 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,760 Maybe it's because they don't like ghosting or bleeding, or 329 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,440 possibly maybe they do like ghosting or something like that. 330 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,600 They've found the perfect structure in a planner, but the 331 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,360 paper is just not the business. All right, this one, I'm going 332 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,480 to say it right this time. Tomoe River paper should not be 333 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,120 ruined by putting a ton of stickers on it. 334 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,440 That's an unpopular opinion from the community. 335 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,040 What do you think? I love that ruined. 336 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:09,480 I, I wouldn't necessarily agree with this one because I don't 337 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,960 think it's fair to say somebody else has like, ruined their 338 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,200 paper by putting something on it. 339 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,560 If it sparks joy for them, it's totally fine. 340 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,840 For somebody who maybe doesn't see a lot of Tomoe River paper 341 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,280 notebooks in the community or like the availability of them 342 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,240 isn't wide, I can understand getting a little bit like, oh, 343 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,080 you're like wasting it by just using it on that. 344 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,040 I'm sure there's something in my stash where if people used it in 345 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,800 a certain way, I would feel like it was wasteful. 346 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,520 Like maybe if you got like, really good quality scrapbooking 347 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,560 cardstock or something and wrote your grocery list on it, like 348 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,080 I'd probably have something to say about that. 349 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,680 So I'm trying to think about it in that kind of respect so I can 350 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:46,880 understand where they're coming from. 351 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,080 It's just not an opinion I personally share. 352 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,320 Yeah. I think it's because the paper 353 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,160 is in so many different notebooks now. 354 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,880 It's just kind of common. It's not like you're talking 355 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,880 about that. I would I, my brain was going to 356 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,240 like watercolor paper. Like really nice watercolor 357 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:03,240 paper. Yeah. 358 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,680 Putting stickers or something over top of that, unless maybe 359 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,960 you're doing mixed media, it's a bit of a waste because the paper 360 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,440 is made for a reason. I think with the Tomoe River 361 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,240 paper, the idea there is that you can write on it really 362 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,440 nicely, Right. Your fountain pens especially 363 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,520 work well with it. But then why are you going to 364 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,640 cover that up, You know, this usable space space with a 365 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,440 sticker. But I do think it's because most 366 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,440 of the time, at least in this planner space, it's inside of a 367 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,840 predated planner. Most of the time, or even if 368 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,360 it's not, people are using it for that reason. 369 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,040 I think especially in like traveler's notebooks, it's very 370 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,600 popular to add stickers and all this different stuff and 371 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,840 ephemera to it and glue and tape stuff in there. 372 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,960 I probably would fit inside that same zone as the stickers. 373 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,680 Like, wait a second, why are you covering up this beautiful paper 374 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,240 with a movie ticket stub or a train ticket or receipt to 375 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,440 something? Why are you not writing on it? 376 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:53,720 Because that's what its purpose is. 377 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,880 So I think I see where this one's coming from. 378 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,440 But I agree, let people plan however they want to and they 379 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,720 don't know the good use of a good paper, well, that's on 380 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,400 them. I think that I got a comment 381 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,520 kind of similar to this one. It wasn't necessarily about the 382 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,440 paper specifically. It was about some PT designs I 383 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:10,960 was using which came off a tape cut. 384 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,640 Those ones out, stuck them in, but I ended up putting a whole 385 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,880 bunch of MIDI calendars over the top of it because I wanted those 386 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,839 floral pieces to kind of be in the background. 387 00:17:19,079 --> 00:17:20,680 And so I had a couple of comments being like, oh, you 388 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,800 wasted those PET pieces by just putting them in the back and 389 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,200 like fully covering them up and such. 390 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,440 I'm like, do you not see them sneaking their little heads out 391 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,560 the side? And I didn't want to have to go 392 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,080 and like fussy cut specific pieces off to like tuck them in 393 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,600 amongst the calendars. Makes way more sense just to 394 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,120 smack them down on the page, stick the calendars over the 395 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:41,240 top. So as a time saving feature I 396 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,920 was like, I'm fine with this use, but I can understand why 397 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,480 some people would be like, Oh no, the florals, you can't see 398 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,680 them anymore. Gotta save every piece of that 399 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,560 PET tape. It sounds like it's very 400 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,280 special. Oh my God, I'm such a hoarder 401 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,440 when it comes to these kind of things. 402 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,920 So I'm like, I, I feel proud of myself that I didn't go and 403 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,840 fussy cut them all out and just stick the very particular pieces 404 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,520 down that would be seen in amongst the gaps. 405 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,720 Because I'm totally the kind of person who will do that. 406 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,160 Especially when the tape roll starts to run out. 407 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,480 I'm like, Nope, gotta hold it like a dragon and make sure that 408 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,280 we have every single little skimmick of this. 409 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:11,840 I threw some paper out the other day. 410 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,120 I was very proud of myself. I've been holding onto it for 411 00:18:14,120 --> 00:18:17,400 literally 2 1/2 years and I'm like Jessica, it's time to let 412 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:18,360 it go. It's amazing. 413 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,800 I have a little drawer slash little bucket that I put paper 414 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,080 scraps into, especially what I'm doing like real quick, like 415 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,160 writing samples or something like that. 416 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,960 But what's funny is that every single time I do a writing 417 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,840 sample, I will grab a new sheet of paper and I'm like, oh, I'll 418 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,640 just put it under the slip versus grabbing the paper that I 419 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,560 have specifically for that. And I know exactly what you 420 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,240 mean. The piles getting pretty large 421 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,680 now I have to remember to kind of go in there sometimes and 422 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,040 like pull it out for like a quick note or like a quick 423 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,920 Swatch. But yeah, it's it's hard to not 424 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,120 want to save those little pieces, but then at the same 425 00:18:50,120 --> 00:18:53,360 time you don't go to think to grab them first, especially when 426 00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:55,320 you're planning 'cause you want something new and fresh and 427 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,600 cool. So kind of on that same train of 428 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,440 thought, though, the next one I had was I hate told my way. 429 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:05,840 I'm like fam, sure, I probably do too. 430 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,520 It's about 160 GSM. I don't want to use it. 431 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,360 I mean, it's unpopular opinion. I think it's probably one that's 432 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:14,480 in there because so many people love that paper or claim to love 433 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,240 that paper and it comes in all of the notebooks that they like. 434 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,320 But I would agree with that. I understand why people like it, 435 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,160 it's just not for me personally. Yeah, I think that when it comes 436 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,240 to paper and in particular like the way that I want to use my 437 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,800 journal and such, I don't use a lot of fountain pens. 438 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,840 I know Tommy Weaver paper is really good for those kind of 439 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,920 things. I don't want any ghosting or 440 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,760 bleeding or anything. A lot of people like that, kind 441 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,120 of like lived in used feeling. It's just not how I like to 442 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:40,760 plan. So yeah, I'm I'm there with you. 443 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,760 I don't like it. The next one we have here, 444 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,080 again, this is from the planner community so I'm assuming this 445 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,440 person has a special affinity for these type of journals. 446 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,400 But they said that ring bound journals are superior to all 447 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,640 other journals. And as an unpopular opinion, I 448 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,320 would agree that that is unpopular because I do not I I 449 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,960 can't, I'm a lefty. So like I have good reason for 450 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,440 it. I just personally can't. 451 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,640 I like the functionality of it. I like that you can move things 452 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,680 around or I know you can take out your paper and write on and 453 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,960 do whatever and put it back, but why am I going to spend that 454 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,040 extra time to do that? Now? 455 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,480 The one thing I wasn't sure of is it meant like rings, like 456 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,960 with the little teeth that connected or if it's like disk 457 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,480 bound. I don't know the difference 458 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,600 between that. I guess you would say disbound 459 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:30,080 versus ring, but bottom line is that is unpopular for sure. 460 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:31,800 I don't know. I can understand where they're 461 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,400 coming from though, because in terms of like getting full use 462 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,400 out of a notebook or whatnot and being able to reorder pages and 463 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,080 all of that kind of thing and then being able to like take 464 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,640 them out and work on a flat surface or whatever, that kind 465 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,320 of stuff. You can totally understand that 466 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,000 being a very good system for some people. 467 00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:51,520 I think my biggest issue would be is that I don't really like, 468 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:52,840 I like writing in a notebook, OK. 469 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,640 I like writing in things that are bound together and the 470 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,560 center rings would get in my way. 471 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,920 Like I'm not a lefty, but they would still get in my way. 472 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,800 But if you're not the kind of person who feels the need to 473 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,640 write in it when it's kind of assembled together kind of a 474 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,400 thing, if you're OK with taking pieces out and working on those 475 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,600 and then putting them back in and such, then it could be 476 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,280 really beneficial. Also, that just idea of being 477 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,320 able to reorder things, that is awesome. 478 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,120 Like if I think about something like my Swatch book, for 479 00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:23,240 instance, if I have a particular collection of pens that I decide 480 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,360 like, hey, I'm not actually using these, I like want to get 481 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:28,040 rid of them or whatnot. I just take the page out of the 482 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:33,000 ring binder rather than like having this layout dedicated in 483 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,200 my Swatch book that is now obsolete because I don't have 484 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,840 those pens anymore. I do the same exact thing. 485 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,920 One of the notebooks that I have for all my pen swatches or ink 486 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,200 swatches too. I use it in there is the same 487 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:44,520 exact way. It's a ring. 488 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,600 I like it. I like the paper, I like the 489 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,360 layout, but I also just, I'm just like every time I do it, I 490 00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:52,800 was like, OK, it's one of the me plus one. 491 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,960 So it has like little tiny rings on it and I like pop it open and 492 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,280 I pull out a piece, but then everything else kind of comes 493 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,240 out with it and I'm just like, OK, OK, this is this is 494 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,240 relaxing. We're doing our pen Swatch and 495 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,960 our ink Swatch today. And then I like fold it all back 496 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,720 together and I'm just always like, I wish this was just 497 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,880 printed and bound together would make it so much easier. 498 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,440 But then at the same time I say that I'm like, it is really 499 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,040 nice, especially for that to like take it out of a notebook, 500 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,600 have it in its own space, kind of do what you need to do. 501 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,400 It's like a little art project and then put it back away. 502 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,760 I think for that specialty need, I would agree with you that the 503 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,840 ring is nice because you can move things around, especially 504 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,480 when you're doing swatches or anything like that. 505 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,680 You're not always buying your pens or your inks in 506 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,160 alphabetical order. That would be very odd and 507 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,160 weird. So having the ability to move 508 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,920 things around is nice, no doubt. But I definitely for like a day 509 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,640 today, that would not be me. Yeah. 510 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,840 I also wonder if like a ring bound system would just like 511 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,360 emphasize my perfectionism a little bit. 512 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,080 It's like by using a bullet journal and by having it in a 513 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,080 bound notebook. I feel like over time, I'm still 514 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,080 a perfectionist. I'm still a persnickety biscuit, 515 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,240 but I think that I have kind of loosen the reins a little bit in 516 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,240 terms of that. Whereas if I had a ring bound 517 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,240 system where you can just like constantly tweak and chop and 518 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,720 change and stuff and put things in different orders and whatnot, 519 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,200 I would start to get a little bit obsessed with finding like 520 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,160 the perfect ordering for things or having things in like the 521 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,160 ideal sequence or whatnot. As opposed to like, Oh well, I 522 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,760 put it in the journal now. It is where it is. 523 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,280 That's how it's gonna be. Or you mess up, I mean, kind of 524 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,480 called me out one and you just said that I was like, I do that 525 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,400 actually. Like in the Swatch one that I 526 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,480 have, if I don't like the way the Swatch looks or my 527 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,560 handwriting looks, if it's the very first one at the top of the 528 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,520 page, I just put inside my little bin over here where all 529 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,920 the other paper scraps go and I just start with a new one. 530 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,920 Otherwise, if it was all bound though, I'd be like, well, it is 531 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,920 what it is because I'm not ripping that page out and 532 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,440 wasting it. So it's actually a really good 533 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,200 point. Whereas like in my Swatch book 534 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,640 the other day, I had kind of started setting up a layout for 535 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,160 a certain collection of pens I had, and I started just watching 536 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,280 the pens in the order they came in the packet because I'm like, 537 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,800 surely, surely the pens have been put in an aesthetically 538 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,960 flazing order. Of course they would do that. 539 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,160 No, they had blue and red right next to each other. 540 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,720 I'm like, what heinous rainbow school did you go to that 541 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,960 decided that was the way to order your pens? 542 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,920 But you know, that should be an unpopular opinion. 543 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,200 It's certainly an opinion. Things should be in rainbow 544 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,920 water. Unless you're colour blinded, 545 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,120 you can't tell the difference between half of those colours. 546 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:25,440 It's not gonna help you. It's OK, You send it to me. 547 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,600 I'll help you out so at least everybody else can look at it 548 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,080 and be like, yes, Mark, they are now aesthetically pleasing. 549 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,240 Everything is fine. Everyone needs a planter pal 550 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,440 like you, that's for sure. I try to help where I can. 551 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,160 This one I don't know how I feel about, but it said you only need 552 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,280 one planner, but journals are infinite. 553 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,120 I'm this one's tricky because like in terms of my journal 554 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:48,400 lineup, a lot of them in terms of the name that I give them. 555 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,880 And in journal like my everyday journal, my yearly collections 556 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,440 journal. I technically only have one 557 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,960 planner and that is a goal planner. 558 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,360 But my everyday journal is where the majority of my plans end up. 559 00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:04,560 So is that now my everyday planner? 560 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,280 No, I've got 2 and now I'm feeling like should I have two? 561 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,720 I'm a little worried. I think if we break it down into 562 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,520 the difference between like a notebook, like a blank notebook 563 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,880 that we're sitting out for bullet journaling and a pre 564 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,520 dated planner, I would agree to a certain extent. 565 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:21,920 I guess it depends how you use it. 566 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,400 But like you only need one planner that's dated for the 567 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,560 year and the days of the week and like everything else, right? 568 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,000 So why would you need multiple? But I guess unless you have 569 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,840 multiple uses for it, like in my brain, I'm thinking about 570 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,760 somebody who has like a planner for work and then has like a 571 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,800 personal like a pocket notebook or, you know, a little like 572 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,640 pocket planner or something like that. 573 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,400 That's for like 2 different subjects. 574 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,680 Like, if you are clearly keeping them separate, then I think that 575 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,640 that's a good reason to have more than one. 576 00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:52,560 But I think I understand where this one's coming from. 577 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,680 It's like, well, if you have one planner for that, why not just 578 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,480 have everything all together all the time? 579 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,480 Because otherwise you're keeping two different dated planners. 580 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,680 Why? But I think the reason I gave 581 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,960 right before that would be the answer to that question. 582 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,560 Yeah. I think that if there's like, 583 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,240 you know, different areas of life that need their own 584 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,960 dedicated space, totally makes sense. 585 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,480 I know there are some people for instance, that in terms of their 586 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,000 work planning, those are the kind of things that can be like 587 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,960 what is it called? Like OIA, I don't know what it's 588 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,480 called in other places, but it's like it could be called upon to 589 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,200 be looked at in a kind of professional setting. 590 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,080 And you don't necessarily want like gynecologist appointment in 591 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,920 there with all of your other stuff. 592 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,600 Like does your workplace really need to know the kind of a 593 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,080 thing? So I can understand why people 594 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,840 would keep multiple planners in that sense. 595 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,520 I personally keep multiple planners because I'm planning 596 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,040 different stuff. So I have my goal planner, which 597 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,040 is for breaking down action, pointing my goals and such. 598 00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:46,880 Just dedicated to that. Just looking at the reflection 599 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,080 process so that I can see that at a glance, I don't need to go 600 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,120 looking through all of my other stuff for it. 601 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,320 And then I have my everyday quote planner, which I call my 602 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,600 everyday journal. That's where I put my task lists 603 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,400 and stuff. That system does work quite well 604 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,360 for me. It could possibly be brought 605 00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:04,480 together, but I like having them separate. 606 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,360 It makes sense that your story that you just said like keeping 607 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:09,400 those things separate reminded me today on Instagram. 608 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,960 I saw a story from a planner that said that for the past 609 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,000 several months they are a teacher at a college it sounds 610 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,160 like, and they have a shared calendar that they use for all 611 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,160 of the classwork that's due. She's like, today I realized 612 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,280 because the student told me that I've been putting all of my 613 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,760 personal calendar things onto our school 1. 614 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,280 So they know when I go to the gynecologist, they know when my 615 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,440 period is. They know when I take my dog to 616 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,640 get groomed and get their hair cut and seen by the vet. 617 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,360 And I was just like, oh man, that is, that's, that's a good 618 00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:45,560 reason also maybe to use totally different types of calendars for 619 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,840 things like that, because I'll do that by accident. 620 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,720 Sometimes We have like a shared family, one that for any type of 621 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,440 like events or concerts and things like that. 622 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,560 And then I just have one that I put like random stuff on to for 623 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,640 myself. And I have to always look to 624 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,640 make sure that like random things don't go on there because 625 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,200 I've put them on there before. And my wife's like, why is this 626 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,760 on the family one? I was like, oh, I didn't click 627 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,600 the button, you know, for whatever reason. 628 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,160 But you know, maybe just keep them separate. 629 00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:14,320 It's safer that way. You know, I have the same kind 630 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,240 of thing with the separate calendars for separate things or 631 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,480 whatnot. I foolishly though made two of 632 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,560 the calendars the same color so I forgot to actually check which 633 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,080 one I was working on and started adding everything to 1 calendar 634 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,320 when it was supposed to be on the other one. 635 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,240 I'm like cool, now I need to move everything over and admin 636 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,760 and such. Thankfully I called it early 637 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,720 enough that it wasn't like the hugest problem in the world, but 638 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,400 it still was not ideal. This one is 1 that I think you 639 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,680 probably sent to me Jess under like a different username that 640 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,080 says that any planner or notebook that doesn't have full 641 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,360 size weekends is a useless planner or notebook. 642 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,760 I got the same one in mine and I'm like, yeah, come through. 643 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,320 You tell them like it is. They were doing double duty. 644 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,720 They were, they were doubling down to make sure that that made 645 00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:00,600 it onto this unpopular opinion. I mean for me personally I do 646 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,040 see that as an unpopular opinion because I don't agree with that, 647 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,040 but that's also because I don't use the weekends that much for 648 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,360 myself to plan. I think the little itty bitty 649 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,480 space that some give, if any at all, is plenty enough for me. 650 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,520 I don't need big space for I've got a lot to do during the week. 651 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,240 The weekends is low chill time for me but I know it's not the 652 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,000 same for everybody so I respect it. 653 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,720 If I was designing a planner that had the perfect amount of 654 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,440 space for each day of the week, the weekend and Monday, Tuesday 655 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,000 would all have a fairly decent chunk of space. 656 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,720 Wednesday would have a little bit less. 657 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,160 Thursday would have barely any because you're not going to do 658 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,640 any work. Don't lie to yourself. 659 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,000 And Friday would probably be back to that more kind of like 660 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,840 medium kind of size. Most planners don't do that 661 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:44,920 though. Most planners think you're 662 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,320 probably going to get some work done on Thursday, foolishly 663 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,440 because it's not going to happen. 664 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,960 But I completely understand people wanting the same amount 665 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,960 of space given to the weekend. What I in particular do not like 666 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,440 when a planner does is when they either like share the weekend 667 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,360 box together. I'm like, no, the Saturday and 668 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,200 Sunday are their own things. Hello. 669 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,360 They don't have to share a bed, please. 670 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,840 Or they change the layout just for those ones. 671 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,200 So for instance, the one that I'm thinking about in particular 672 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,640 is where they have like a vertical space for all of the 673 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,720 days of the week, like weekdays, quote, quote Monday through 674 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,840 Friday and then the weekend it's like, oh, we're just gonna go 675 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,800 horizontal for that. I'm like, oh, stay in your lane. 676 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,480 Pick one and go with it. I don't want a horizontal weekly 677 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,880 like space and then a vertical weekend or vice versa. 678 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,520 It's just nasty. Well, it does because you know, 679 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,720 seven days in the week doesn't fit perfectly into 3 columns. 680 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,600 I mean, that's even for myself. Whenever I do that, if I include 681 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,280 the weekends, it's usually everything you said that you 682 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,680 hate. It's combined into one space or 683 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,960 it is like very small to the side in a totally different 684 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,520 layout. But it's because especially when 685 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,320 you want like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 686 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,760 you're like OK, Saturday, Sunday stacked over here or something 687 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,000 different. So in my mind, I get it. 688 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,200 But again, I just don't use weekends that way, so you know, 689 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,640 it is what it is. Yeah, I'm just more of a fan of 690 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,880 having like 8 sections on the 2 pages because then you can get 691 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,680 an even split and then that extra space can just be used for 692 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,200 something else. So whether you kind of like 693 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,040 truncated and make it into like a mini calendar section with a 694 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,880 priorities list or possibly just like a note space or something, 695 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,120 maybe a little meal plan section or whatnot. 696 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,640 But I also use daily logs instead of weeklies. 697 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,400 So I'm like over here having really strong opinions for 698 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,280 something that doesn't actually affect me at all. 699 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,480 This one's a bit of fun. The bigger the better. 700 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,600 I love my letter size Archer and olive notebooks and I wish that 701 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,920 more came in that size. I have not been able to find a 702 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,680 good use for the letter size. I love having a range of 703 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,720 options, don't get me wrong, but I also found that when I moved 704 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,080 to a notebook that was even just B5 size, I got overwhelmed. 705 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,440 I know people say like, Oh yeah, there's more room for like 706 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,160 decorations and stuff like that. And I just made all of my 707 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,480 regular size decorations bigger and they all looked silly. 708 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,480 So I'm not a fan of that big. I think the square is like my 709 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,040 happy place in terms of large notebooks, but I appreciate that 710 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,600 people do enjoy large notebooks. I like them too. 711 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,880 It's funny. Whenever I see the letter size 712 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,840 that's vertical right up and down, I'm like, yeah, that's a 713 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,960 lot of space. But I am slightly interested in 714 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,840 the heirloom ones from Archer and Olive. 715 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,280 I got a bunch of them with previous ones and I was like, 716 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,120 oh, I'm going to use them for something special. 717 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,280 And just the other day I was thinking should I try to use 718 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,000 that for my bullet journal? But I only would use it in that 719 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,040 horizontal layout though. Something about that feels a lot 720 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,120 more approachable. Feels similar to the square 721 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,600 notebooks in my mind, even though it's not. 722 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,160 So, yes, but I don't know that's really big. 723 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,920 I think I'm much more of like the kind of person who prefers 724 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,760 small notebooks. I think I just love the novelty 725 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,120 of little ones. Like a little basics is the 726 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,640 cutest size. Like I know you can get a six 727 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,520 and like sometimes even A7 and whatnot. 728 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,720 I don't gravitate towards like that small, but a basic size is 729 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,280 just such a stinking cute size. I should use it more often. 730 00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,880 Yeah, I don't know. I've been try. 731 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,840 I don't think I've actually used one. 732 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,160 Yeah, everyone talks about how amazing they are, but I feel 733 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,480 like if I was already using up a ton of A5 size notebooks, like 734 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,600 multiple pages for a week, I don't even know what the hell I 735 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,520 would do. And that I'd be like, oh, this 736 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,240 journal lasted me a month and a half because of the pages. 737 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,080 Everyone said to use it. But I do think it has to do like 738 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,680 place in time and how you use it. 739 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,240 Maybe it makes sense. But yeah, for me, not so much. 740 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,320 But then also you've got the polar opposite with that big 741 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,200 huge letter size. Like that's, that's an opinion, 742 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,280 that's for sure. Yeah, I think if I wanted to fit 743 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,000 a whole year into a notebook, I could probably go with letter 744 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,600 size. I don't know if I'd enjoy it, 745 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,120 but I could technically do it. And I think that if I wanted to 746 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,320 go for like a new quarter, new notebook kind of system, then a 747 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,520 basics would be absolutely excellent. 748 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,440 A5 is still my happy place though, but I'm glad that 749 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,080 there's some big notebook love out there. 750 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,160 I can fit a whole year in a square notebook and I can fit it 751 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,960 inside of AB5 notebook. That's why I want B5 this year 752 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,760 for myself because I was like, I'll just do the whole year in 753 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:58,960 here. It'll be fine and I'll pick a 754 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,160 new one next year. But yeah, I I don't know. 755 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,600 I feel like the a 5 though. I mean now I'm very curious to 756 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,560 try it out and see like now I've definitely want to try to make 757 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,400 it my next journal and see it'll laugh like a two year journal be 758 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,960 fantastic. This next unpopular opinion is 759 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,239 interesting. I like this concept, but that a 760 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:21,080 24 hour timeline in planner should be more common than 761 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,639 uncommon. And I like this unpopular 762 00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:26,960 opinion because when you think about everyone doesn't 763 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,800 necessarily work a standard 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM. 764 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,960 Or I don't even know how a lot of those planners look because 765 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,960 it's been a while since I used a predated one. 766 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:40,040 But I like this idea. For me though it has to still be 767 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:45,120 in like non military time like it needs to be 12:00 PM one PMI 768 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,400 don't need a 131415 all the way. 24 hour that. 769 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,120 That breaks my brain I don't like it. 770 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,679 Yeah, I would have to agree with that. 771 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:54,719 I personally prefer AMPM, mainly because I'm like, I don't want 772 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,400 to have to do math. Time math is my least good math. 773 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,560 Like of all of them, time math is the worst. 774 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,720 But I can totally understand people wanting this more for, 775 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,920 you know, people who work in spaces that you don't have your 776 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,760 9 to 5 like you mentioned, or they actually do things beyond 777 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,760 8:00 PM or whatnot. Because oftentimes with those 778 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,280 planners that have the, you know, 8 to 8 or like 6 to 10 or 779 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,880 like whatever, not everybody has those as their wake hours. 780 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,760 You know, some people are out there starting their morning 781 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,600 routine at 4:00 AM choices, but like you do you. 782 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,760 But others, you know, we stay up till 11 or 12 or something and 783 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,960 we still have stuff that we're doing then, even if it's just 784 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,840 leisure, but maybe sometimes it isn't. 785 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,840 And sometimes we have other things that are scheduled for, 786 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,800 then it would be nice to have spots to accommodate for those 787 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,040 things. And I think that 24 hour time at 788 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,920 least would give everybody the option. 789 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,400 They there would be the availability to be able to put 790 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,800 those things in. I totally love this idea. 791 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,480 Who's gonna put it out next? Does anyone even have one? 792 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,000 It's been such a long time since I used a preprinted anything 793 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,720 that I don't even know. Our planner you have to let us 794 00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:03,800 know are people making 24 hour planners? 795 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,640 If so, who's doing it? Because I like this concept at. 796 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,680 The risk of getting cancelled Archer Olive is overrated and 797 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,280 overpriced. I I can understand where you're 798 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,640 coming from all right like I get it they're not cheap notebooks. 799 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,480 I think that you know, obviously it's all opinion based and such 800 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,560 so for you, yeah, possibly they are overrated and overpriced. 801 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,520 I think certain designs are a little bit overrated they're not 802 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,360 like my cup of tea or whatnot and you can definitely get 160 803 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,920 GSM notebooks that are as good structurally or whatnot as 804 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,520 Archer and olive ones. I would also think that like in 805 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,320 terms of cost in particular, this is an American based brand 806 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,920 with American based employees with American based salaries, 807 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,760 whereas other companies that are from other places in the world, 808 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,200 salaries there are probably a little bit different. 809 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,000 So the need to accommodate for that is it's a different kettle 810 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,280 of fish kind of a thing. If you're just looking for a 811 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,760 notebook that looks gorgeous, has 160 GSM paper, yes, you do 812 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,280 not have to pay Archer and Olive prices for that. 813 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,600 Overrated. I don't think that the company 814 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,800 itself is overrated. I would probably just say that 815 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,840 certain designs, but not really for me, are a little bit 816 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,040 overrated. Yeah, I'm with you on this one 817 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,560 here. I know where people are coming 818 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,560 from because so many of us in the community talk about it, 819 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,560 especially being on the brand team and doing stuff with the 820 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,200 affiliates and everything else like that. 821 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,520 We do talk about it a lot, but I can see where they're coming 822 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:27,840 from. I was thinking about this the 823 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,240 other day, just actually, because I was going to take it 824 00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:32,760 myself back to like when I first started. 825 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,200 I remember the first time I saw Arch and Olive Notebooks, and I 826 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,560 too was taken aback. Pearls were clutched because I 827 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:44,080 was like, wow, like people are paying this much money for 828 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,960 journals. Like I was worked up when I 829 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,600 first bought that, that loystrom and it was like $25. 830 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,280 And I was like, this is a lot of money for a notebook and then 831 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,280 you go and see that. But I'll be honest with you and 832 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,640 not everyone gets the opportunity. 833 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,160 And I think that's where I kind of came into is like, would I 834 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,720 have eventually tried it? Eventually I would have probably 835 00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:05,880 bought one on my own. I got lucky because this was 836 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,480 early on and I was friends. I got to know some of those 837 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,680 people and they were like, you definitely need to try this 838 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,520 notebook. And I was sent one for free. 839 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,920 And that was the moment, though, where I was like, oh, this is 840 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,600 it. Like I like this. 841 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,160 And then as I've grown with those notebooks and definitely 842 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,080 them as a brand, I was like, oh, I really like everything that's 843 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,640 happening here. It's more than just finding a 844 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,960 random notebook seller that has 160 GSM paper and cool covers. 845 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,800 There's a story behind it. I know the people there. 846 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,120 I know, you know, we've become friends with a lot of them too. 847 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,880 So for me, it's a little bit more of that affinity. 848 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,080 So I can understand though, for someone doesn't have any of that 849 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,360 direct connection that they're just like, what are you guys 850 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,040 talking about? Like, what do you mean you're 851 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,240 going Gaga and drooling over this notebook? 852 00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:51,320 Like it's not all that. Like I can see it. 853 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:52,800 Yeah. I think that that's a really 854 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,040 good point about that kind of like emotional investment as 855 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,320 well. So it's like it's not just the 856 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,200 notebook, it's like, you know, the people behind the scenes and 857 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,480 all of that and the connections that we have with those people 858 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,760 and such. You know, if you don't have 859 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,840 those and if you also just don't feel like spending 35 plus on a 860 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,600 book, like fair, I get it. There are plenty of other very, 861 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,600 very much more affordable brands out there that have the same 862 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,960 kind of like quality of product, but you don't get the rest of 863 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,560 the kind of experience. I suppose. 864 00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:26,360 Like I focus on the mental health kind of awareness and 865 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,320 creativity as a form of self-expression and all of those 866 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,600 kind of things. I feel like the kind of 867 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:36,000 messaging and mission behind the brand is really important, but I 868 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,400 understand that people don't necessarily want to pay that 869 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,800 much just to be associated with that kind of messaging. 870 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,640 Does that kind of make sense? It makes sense. 871 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,160 And I think also, I don't often think of them as a small 872 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,920 business, even though I think they technically still are 873 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,600 considered a small business. And that's also so a hard part 874 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,920 for me too, because I feel like they've gotten so big that it's 875 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,480 grown beyond that. But I guess it's not like a in 876 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,200 every home type of notebook. People still don't know what 877 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,480 Archer and Olive is, even though we're in that space all of the 878 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,400 time. So that's another reason to it 879 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,480 becomes a specialty brand. I think they, you know, kind of. 880 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,080 Position themselves from a brand perspective to as a luxury brand 881 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,080 and that's how they can up some of their prices on things. 882 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,880 And I know a lot of people have a lot of feelings about that. 883 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,000 You know, when you have like a double edged marker for a lot of 884 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,480 money versus what you could buy at a craft store for 885 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,680 significantly less. Well, what makes it so much 886 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,440 special? Is it really that different or 887 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,960 is it just because it's from them that it makes it special? 888 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,560 And so, yeah, there's a lot that kind of goes into that, but 889 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,160 definitely can understand where someone's coming from with that. 890 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,400 Unpopular because we know there's a lot of diehards out 891 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,880 there. This unpopular pig and I, I was 892 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,800 taken aback by this back. Planning is not planning. 893 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,040 Stop doing it. I'm sorry. 894 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,040 How else am I going to look productive if I don't write down 895 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,600 things and check them off immediately after I've done the 896 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,600 thing that I just did? You you buy Joe Damn business. 897 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,400 I think that the reason that we're insulted by this is 898 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,080 because we are totally being called out like like, yes, 899 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,720 technically it is not planning in the same way that people say 900 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,080 that like, you know, memory planning isn't a thing, which I 901 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,920 kind of technically disagree with. 902 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,600 Like I think you can plan memories, but I think that a lot 903 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,760 of the time when people say something's memory planning, 904 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,120 it's really memory keeping. But that's, that's another 905 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,120 topic. I am very much the kind of 906 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,400 person who will write something down that I just did to check it 907 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,520 off because I like want the record of achievement. 908 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,000 I want to be able to look over my checklist for the day and be 909 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,360 like, look at all the stuff you actually got done as opposed to, 910 00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:40,600 hey, look at all the stuff that you said you were going to do at 911 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,040 the start of the day. But you didn't do that because 912 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,680 you went on all these side quests and you were very 913 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,920 productive, just not in the areas you said you were going to 914 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,600 be. So sure, it's not planning, but 915 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,800 I don't care. Yeah, I guess technically it 916 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,520 would be task tracking. I guess it's more what you would 917 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,240 call that, but it mixes in and at the end of the day it looks 918 00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:01,280 like I planned to did it and that's all that matters. 919 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,920 Exactly, as long as I come out looking good it's fine. 920 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,240 Oh God I don't know if I can even deal. 921 00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:10,880 But one of the unpopular opinions was just like a 922 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,160 statement of fact for their own reality. 923 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:18,040 And as I toss my journals after I'm done with them, what? 924 00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:22,160 I could never. OK Like yes, I run a planner 925 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,680 channel so it makes sense that I keep as many as I do. 926 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,560 So like if you are out there throwing your planners away 927 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,600 because you don't have the space, sure. 928 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,480 But the idea of it gives me the heebie jeebies. 929 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,600 I could never. I have never ever thrown away a 930 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,120 planner. Even the ones that I've just 931 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,240 like tested out for a little bit are only used for half a year. 932 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,800 I have them all lined up in order in which I use them. 933 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,880 I could never imagine throwing in one away ever. 934 00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:53,600 Like, that's history. I think that's the thing, right? 935 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,400 It's literally my life. Like these are snapshots of my 936 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,000 life. Thinking about the ones that you 937 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,720 just mentioned, like I don't even throw away the ones that I 938 00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:02,000 just tested for a second. I have a planner. 939 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,480 It was a goal planner. We've talked about it before. 940 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,240 It's the one where the bookmarks weren't long enough to be used 941 00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:10,240 as bookmarks. So I very quickly gave up on it. 942 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,880 I still have that one. I like set it aside because I'm 943 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,560 like Jessica, you don't need it anymore. 944 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,160 You can probably let it go. And now it's just sitting and 945 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,520 its own separate pile in my shelves because I'm like, Nah, 946 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,440 I'm not ready. Like I've kind of like half 947 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,320 committed to the idea of letting it go, but not fully committed. 948 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,520 So it's still in there. Yeah, I don't have words for 949 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,720 this one. Never could I ever. 950 00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:34,160 That's the next game we could play. 951 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,760 Jesus. Yeah, for sure, because like 952 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,960 that is not something that I would be doing at all. 953 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,480 But if you have any unpopular opinions that you'd like to 954 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,400 share in the planning stationary space, anything like that, we 955 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,720 would love to hear them. Share them below in the 956 00:43:47,720 --> 00:43:49,200 comments. Or you can e-mail us at 957 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,120 plannerpalspodcast@gmail.com or hit us up on Instagram at 958 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,280 Planner Pals podcast. Especially if you're here on 959 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,080 YouTube, make sure that you jump down into that comments like any 960 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,720 of the ones that you agree with. We're not out here trying to 961 00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:03,760 like start a riot or anything, but it's always nice to know 962 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,360 that your unpopular opinion something that's shared by other 963 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,280 people. I definitely let us know if your 964 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,000 reactions are the same as ours. Like I'm so my heart is still 965 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,400 beating from some of that we went over today. 966 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,400 Like I could never imagine half of the things that people are 967 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,120 like. Unpopular opinion. 968 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,320 I throw out my journal. Who are you? 969 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,120 Who are you? I'm sure everybody else was 970 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,680 probably, hopefully not driving. You're like what when you? 971 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,680 Said you weren't driving. I thought you were like throwing 972 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,480 it out while you were driving. Like you're on the highway. 973 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:31,960 You're like, I'm done with this journal. 974 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,520 Just toss it out the window. I mean, why not? 975 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,120 If you're gonna throw it out, who cares where it actually goes 976 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,840 at the end of the day? But this is a ton of fun, Jess. 977 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,320 I mean, it's something we definitely have to do again in 978 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,920 the future. I love hearing these from 979 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,040 different people because this is stuff that I would never in my 980 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,880 entire life think about. No, I very much agree it is. 981 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,800 I said it was supposed to be a bit of fun kind of a thing. 982 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,880 So if any of these unpopular opinions, like we've said no to 983 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,240 like they're not our opinion does not mean you're planning's 984 00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:01,960 wrong. Very interested to hear your 985 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,400 thoughts in the comments though and thank you as always for 986 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:04,840 watching.