1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,040 Hello and welcome to the Planner Pals Podcast, a podcast hosted 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,960 by two true planner pals. My name is Mark and I go by Mark 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,600 Your pages. And I'm Jess or Jessica, and in 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,240 today's episode, we're gonna be looking at the notebooks that we 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:12,680 love. They're our ride or dies or 6 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,720 where they're ride or dies. I'm still not sure about how 7 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,320 that works. I'm not good with the idiom. 8 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:17,480 I also don't know if it's an idiom. 9 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,160 We're gonna be talking about that. 10 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,640 And I feel like some people can already guess what number one 11 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,320 is, but don't spoil it for other people. 12 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,520 We're gonna get into this. Yeah, it's gonna be a fantastic 13 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,560 episode talking about our favorite journals, not just for 14 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,760 bullet journaling, but just all together. 15 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,480 You know, we know that our planner pals don't just bullet 16 00:00:33,480 --> 00:00:35,320 journal. While we love that, we also like 17 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:36,720 to have fun with other notebooks too. 18 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,640 But before we get into our episode with the thank you all 19 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,720 again, it is the biggest place for all of the coolest things 20 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,960 you could ever collect ever. The comments section. 21 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:48,880 Thank you all so much for your feedback on all the things that 22 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,720 you can't say no to as well. It makes us feel a lot less 23 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,200 worse about not saying no to our favorite things. 24 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,920 Yeah, I'm just glad there are other people out there who also 25 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,760 have a hard time with like, being a completionist when it 26 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,640 comes to their pen sets or whatever else, hoarding stickers 27 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,879 like a dragon and then not wanting to put them down because 28 00:01:04,879 --> 00:01:06,520 you're as worried it's not going to be perfect. 29 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,720 I said I'm trying to get out of that mindset but I am 30 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,400 struggling. It's definitely not a easy thing 31 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,640 to do, but I think the best thing that you can kind of do is 32 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,960 really take on the task of declutter. 33 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:18,280 And I know you've been doing that. 34 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,880 I've been doing that as well as we've gone through, which was a 35 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,160 perfect setup for today's episode as we talk about our 36 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,880 favorite types of notebooks Because you and I both have been 37 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,400 really editing through our notebooks, which I think at 38 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:29,960 least for me, I'm sure it's same for you as well. 39 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,400 Well, it does make you like think about them for a second, 40 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,480 like what did I like about this notebook or I didn't like about 41 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,080 this notebook? And I'm going to put it into a 42 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,400 new home. So just as we get into it, first 43 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,840 you want to start with one of your favorite notebooks that you 44 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,440 just love so much and want to share with the planner files. 45 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,560 So my first favorite notebook was actually an interesting one 46 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,240 because you think that as a bullet journaler and you know, 47 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,560 with the rainbow and all of that kind of thing, it would be one 48 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,280 of those like 160 GSM white dot grid, like ultra thick paper 49 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,560 kind of brands. But it's actually like one of 50 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,440 the cheapest notebooks I own and I love it so much just because 51 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:02,960 it really takes the pressure off. 52 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,240 It makes it feel like I could really put anything there. 53 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,480 I can be messy. I can be scribbly to the extent 54 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,080 where anytime I use this notebook, I do just call it my 55 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,160 scribble book. And that one is the Kokuyo ring 56 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,160 bound notebook. But the rings are really soft 57 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,080 and flexible. So they're actually really good 58 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,480 for left-handed people too. Like I'm not left-handed. 59 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,720 If I tried to write with my left hand, it would turn out just 60 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,120 like a heinous mess. We're not gonna, we're not gonna 61 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:25,800 try it. But I know that that's a 62 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,560 notebook that a lot of people who are left-handed, who like 63 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,400 ring bound but don't like the rings like getting in their way, 64 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,440 actually do enjoy using as well. Yeah, it's definitely something 65 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,000 as a lefty that I am a lefty you do think about. 66 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,040 I mean, growing up I didn't know there was a choice. 67 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,480 I think especially in school, it's like it's the three rig 68 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,400 binder. It's the big huge ones. 69 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,800 You're constantly fighting against that son of a bitch as 70 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,160 you're trying to just takedown your elementary and middle 71 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,240 school notes. It wasn't until later on where 72 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,560 like, oh, there are other options. 73 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,240 I feel like more and more stuff came out. 74 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,680 I mean, I wish honestly that I had my knowledge of stationary 75 00:03:00,920 --> 00:03:04,680 like now as back then I feel like I would have just enjoyed 76 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,040 school so much more because I just felt like I was constantly 77 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,160 fighting the clips or getting your finger stuck in those clips 78 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,280 too. Like when you're closing. 79 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:13,960 It was a it was an absolute nightmare. 80 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,480 So I definitely appreciate a good lefty friendly ring 81 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,880 notebook. Yeah, very that I find that this 82 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,800 one in particular, you don't have necessarily the flexibility 83 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,840 of being able to or reorganize or rearrange the pages because 84 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,160 the ring itself is kind of like inbuilt in there. 85 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,120 But the fact that it's soft and squishy also kind of acts as 86 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,440 like a fidget tool almost. It's just me kind of like 87 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,640 pressing on the squishy rings and avoiding what I'm supposed 88 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,560 to be doing. Still fun though, still makes it 89 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,440 for an enjoyable use. Also the fact that it isn't 90 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,760 actually a dot grid, it's a regular grid. 91 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,480 And I definitely think that we need to have more regular grid 92 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,960 notebooks, especially in the 160 GSM bright white paper space, 93 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,280 just because that's usually the preference when it comes to a 94 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,400 bullet journal at least. But I find that doing things 95 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,560 like graphs or like being able to plot things out and stuff, 96 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,360 having those guidelines, they're quite faint, but having them 97 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,000 there makes it really enjoyable to use. 98 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,480 Yeah, I think that the grid notebooks are ones that I also 99 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,280 pull a few of them out every now and again and like do a spread 100 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:10,760 or whatever just to kind of mix it up. 101 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,840 But you're right. But it has to be like a light 102 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,400 line. Like the ones that I have I feel 103 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,240 like are really dark and I like it aesthetically. 104 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,399 It looks really cool. I can still read what I'm 105 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:20,920 writing on. It's not like the worst thing in 106 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,000 the world, but at the same time it's like you're, you got a 107 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,240 totally different look going on and you're right, like graphs 108 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,680 and trackers and stuff. It just makes it a bazillion 109 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,720 times easier than trying to find the dots and the lines, 110 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,000 especially when you're right over them. 111 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,240 Like it's all just, they're really nice indeed. 112 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,800 And I think it's also just fun to play with different types of 113 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,760 papers too. So I'm all about that. 114 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,400 Yeah. And talking about the different 115 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,000 types of papers, given the fact that pretty much every other 116 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,920 notebook I use is that kind of like ultra thick type of paper 117 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,760 and usually doesn't have a coating. 118 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,120 This one I believe does have a coating which also makes it my 119 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,480 favorite to use my fountain pen in, which is kind of funny. 120 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,720 It's like my nicest pen in my cheapest notebook. 121 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,800 Well, sometimes I think you need to have that freedom of it where 122 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,280 you're not being so protective over your paper and what you put 123 00:05:06,280 --> 00:05:08,280 in it and you can kind of just make a mess. 124 00:05:08,280 --> 00:05:10,960 I do that a lot in a lot of my journals that aren't my bullet 125 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,640 journal. If I'm just scratching down 126 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,840 notes or doing whatever or just having fun. 127 00:05:14,840 --> 00:05:16,120 I mean, sometimes I'll do the same thing. 128 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,120 I'll be like I'm just gonna play test with some ink today and use 129 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,640 it in a notebook that I know is just it's not for fountain and 130 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,360 it will bleed through the paper like I know it's going to, but I 131 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,280 just not worried about it. And they usually are the least 132 00:05:28,280 --> 00:05:31,040 expensive ones too, because then you're like you don't feel so 133 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,520 bad about kind of like wasting the paper or just playing inside 134 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,560 of it. It does definitely take it down. 135 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,400 A lot of that stress and anxiety about trying to be perfect. 136 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,840 So I'm right there with you. I think a lot of the times those 137 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:45,240 are great for like thinking about like ideas for spread. 138 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,560 So a lot of those like R&D notebooks that we talk about. 139 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,840 It's almost like a pre R&D notebook where you can be super 140 00:05:50,840 --> 00:05:53,760 messy and figure it out and then maybe put like a little bit more 141 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,520 refined idea into one of these other notebooks for like 142 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,440 ideation and trying stuff out. Yeah, no, I would agree with 143 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,360 that. I think that also the fact that 144 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,760 I just call it the scribble book also just takes the pressure 145 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:04,920 off. It's like, no, the intention 146 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,240 here is to be a mess, to be messy, and that's why it's 147 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,200 definitely one of my kind of like staples in my collection. 148 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,000 I will continue to keep accumulating those ones because 149 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,960 I really do love them, but what would be one of your favorites? 150 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,600 Yeah. So as I've been going through my 151 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,560 notebooks, you know, I've played around a lot of notebooks. 152 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,840 I think one of my favorite things to do is find different 153 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:24,200 types of notebooks notebooks and I especially love it when they 154 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,480 find me. So Anto design is the one I've 155 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,600 actually worked with. I've done videos for before. 156 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,000 And what I really liked about them is their note to work 157 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,960 series. Like it's a beautiful notebook. 158 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,240 It's found, But my favorite part of this jest is that it is 159 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,160 magnetic binding. So you just pop them out and you 160 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,280 can use them and do whatever you want and you pop them back in 161 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,640 and there's so many different accessories and things that you 162 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,600 can do with it. And the other really cool thing 163 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:52,400 about it is you can put any type of paper that you want into 164 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,680 these notebooks. So if you do want that 165 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,680 scratchpad type thing, you can just fold over some paper. 166 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,160 It comes with a really cool punch that you can punch in and 167 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,960 kind of put them in. So it's a little bit of like a 168 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,440 DIY kind of approach, but you can also take the paper out and 169 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,680 easily slide it back in because there's a rubber band around 170 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,280 that binding that helps you do that. 171 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:14,120 Now I will say I don't do that a lot because for me, I don't have 172 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,320 to worry about taking paper out. I think in a lot of their 173 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,880 marketing, they're like, oh, if you're sharing notes around the 174 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,920 table and I'm like, I'm not sharing my notes with anybody. 175 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,680 You're not my flow. It's exactly that though. 176 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,640 Like keep your nasty bicks away from my beautiful paper. 177 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,040 Nobody wants an unsolicited BIC in their notebook and just, you 178 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,480 know, keep those things away from us. 179 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,680 We don't want to see it. Yeah, I love that idea of like a 180 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,000 magnetic system. I think that like things like 181 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,320 traveler systems and ring bound systems and stuff where you can 182 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,720 really chop and change things and switch things out so you can 183 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,360 effectively make your perfect planner or notebook system or 184 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,120 whatever. They're very interesting. 185 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,640 But the magnetic one in particular, I haven't seen that 186 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,800 anywhere else. I'm curious about it and now I'm 187 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,920 like, oh gosh, do I need to go and get this notebook and then 188 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,120 bring that into my stash as well? 189 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,080 No, you just decluttered 129 notebooks. 190 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,360 We do not need more unless they're some of your favorites, 191 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,200 then like we'll call an exception for that. 192 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,040 But in terms of like the being able to change it out and being 193 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,560 able to switch out the papers and such, do you think that you 194 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,560 could use it with like only particular like weights of paper 195 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,920 or would it be fine to use with like 160 really, really thick 196 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,680 cardstock type thing? What do you reckon? 197 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,160 You can do whatever you want with it. 198 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,240 So I've actually used everything from like very thin graph paper. 199 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:23,840 That's what's great. You can put as much as that 200 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,000 paper that'll fit inside of that metal binding. 201 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,040 So it limits itself. So if you're using thicker 202 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,840 paper, which I did, I ended up buying like 160 GSM dot grid 203 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:35,919 just off of like Amazon for instance, and was able to cut it 204 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,520 a little bit. That's the only thing I didn't 205 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,919 love about it though, is like you had to like cut your paper a 206 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:42,960 certain size to fit it in there. But you could get the paper you 207 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,760 wanted and you can kind of add it right in there and you can 208 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,480 use it however you want. Yeah, no, I'm all about trying 209 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,520 different things. Like I had two years there in 210 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,240 particular that I cycled through a bunch of of different size 211 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:57,200 notebooks to trial those out. So I went from like A5 to B5 to 212 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,120 Travelers, then went back to A5 because I was like, Oh my God, 213 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:01,840 no, I just need something that's familiar. 214 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,440 And then tried out the B6, tried out the square. 215 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,440 Like it was really interesting getting to see like how our 216 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,600 regular planning kind of style would work in a different size 217 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,640 because there's a lot of things that we kind of just take for 218 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,760 granted almost in working with the same size on repeat. 219 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:20,120 Like for instance the fact that a vertical log looks weird in 220 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,080 AB5I personally feel it looks weird in AB because there's just 221 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,520 so much extra space and people like oh you can fill it with 222 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,080 decoration. I'm like no it's too hard I 223 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,560 don't want to do it. This is the worst. 224 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,560 That's what I really got into squares for myself because the 225 00:09:31,560 --> 00:09:35,360 B5 had that weird kind of thing. I always say what I love about a 226 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,800 square notebook. It's like the comfortability 227 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,280 size of an A5 with the width of AB 5, right? 228 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,720 You kind of have this perfect dimension inside of there. 229 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,760 But again, that's what I like about these two. 230 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,440 And also the thing I didn't mention is that you can also 231 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,040 print out templates yourself too. 232 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,760 They sell them, but if you're the type of person that doesn't 233 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,040 want to at the buy your own paper or try something 234 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,040 different, they have this whole template gallery that's really 235 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:58,960 cool. So I used to use it for project 236 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,360 planning. Like I used to be like a few 237 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,720 months at a time. I did it for content planning. 238 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,240 You can do it for all kinds of really cool stuff. 239 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,600 So I'm a really big fan of it. I think it's been really cool. 240 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:11,320 And because I get the kind of mix and match and that just that 241 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,360 makes a little dopamine hit for me. 242 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,800 And I'm just like, yeah, I'm going to try this out and I do 243 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,280 it for a few months, then I'm over it. 244 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,000 I want to print out anymore. Now that's very fair. 245 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,480 I do think that there is like definitely a benefit with those 246 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,040 kind of systems where you can bring in those types of 247 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,680 elements. Like you can bring in what I'm 248 00:10:26,680 --> 00:10:28,200 going to call like external paper. 249 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,680 So whether that's like templates or just regular paper or 250 00:10:30,680 --> 00:10:32,280 whatever. And just get to try all these 251 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,160 things out without committing to like a full notebook of that 252 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,400 thing or a full planner of that thing as well. 253 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:39,840 Because like if you buy a planner for the year, usually 254 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,840 they're kind of they're kind of spinning kind of a thing. 255 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,520 So you kind of have that, I don't know, sunk cost policy. 256 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,160 Like I have to finish using this because I put all this money 257 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,720 into it and maybe time setting it up and whatever, but being 258 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,280 able to give yourself like a test run in that kind of system 259 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,560 is pretty cool. Also in thinking about that, 260 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:57,280 it's kind of to me like the Neapolitan, almost like the 261 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,040 Neapolitan journal that they had from Archer and Olive. 262 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,520 It's like you get your black and your white and your craft paper 263 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,000 and you can kind of try and change them up. 264 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,200 The problem with that one I found was that there's only 265 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,800 like, you know, so many pages of 1 and I wouldn't get a full 266 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,320 month in that. So it's like in the middle of a 267 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,600 month you're switching from white paper to black paper, but 268 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,120 the theme doesn't really work for that. 269 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,520 So I was then going to like the next white paper section to keep 270 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,080 on with. The white paper made for a very 271 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,280 interestingly organised notebook. 272 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,480 And I feel like the system you're talking about could kind 273 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,400 of solve that a little bit because you could just shove 274 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,520 more pages in. Yeah, it's definitely a very 275 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,040 cool one. But all right, Jess, let's go 276 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,920 into your next one. What's your #2 or yeah, I guess 277 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,320 #2 because we're going up to #1. Going up to #1 alrighty #2 so 278 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,800 this one in particular I really love because they are constantly 279 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,160 coming out with new designs. So their range in terms of 280 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,200 designs just for the covers is really great. 281 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,160 I appreciate having a lot of like eye candy to pick from 282 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,640 makes makes my heart happy. But also I found that this brand 283 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,680 in particular had a really good range of different types of 284 00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:58,880 paper and like, you know, doc grid versus lines versus blank, 285 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,920 yadda, yadda. They also have started to bring 286 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,200 more sizes into their lineup, which is really cool. 287 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,760 In particular, the one that's quite exciting is that they have 288 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,280 bought square notebooks into their lineup, which is not 289 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:09,640 something that's all that common. 290 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,200 And in particular, given that my favorite square brand, which 291 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:14,960 we'll talk about later and you all know what it is, but it's 292 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,480 fine. No spoilers, right? 293 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,520 My favorite square brand, they they sell at quickly. 294 00:12:19,560 --> 00:12:22,520 They do sell out quickly, but so having another brand that I can 295 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,920 rely on Foursquare notebooks is kind of exciting. 296 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,120 This one is Tifosi. I have, you know, quite a few 297 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,320 notebooks from them and some very lovely colors, very lovely 298 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:32,920 designs. At the moment, they seem to be 299 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,640 like really into birds, which like birds isn't really my 300 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:40,320 thing, but some of their designs with birds look very like fairy 301 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,680 tale kind of thing. It feels like a fairy tale book 302 00:12:42,680 --> 00:12:44,640 that like you're going to put all of your beautiful Once Upon 303 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,600 a time stories in gorgeous colors, very pretty designs and 304 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,200 that's why I like them. They're definitely cool. 305 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,400 I've only had one. I think it's probably when they 306 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,480 first were starting to come out. I know they were sending out 307 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:55,720 some notebooks to different people. 308 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,320 Don't think we love that paper necessarily. 309 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,720 I know that they've fixed it because you've done some work 310 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,280 with them and have a number of the notebooks. 311 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,560 But I will agree, their covers are gorgeous. 312 00:13:05,560 --> 00:13:08,240 Like seriously like nothing else that I've seen out there. 313 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,800 And you and I have talked a lot recently too about a lot of the 314 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,360 full cover designs. And they're just, they're, 315 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,000 they're just amazing. They're foiled and they're very 316 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,440 intricate and detailed and they are very, very pretty. 317 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,840 I haven't tried any of them since that original one just 318 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,680 because I have a ton of other notebooks. 319 00:13:24,680 --> 00:13:27,440 And I was kind of bummed out about the paper in that very 320 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,720 first one since it was, I forget what it was like stone washed 321 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,000 or. I have no idea what it was but 322 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,480 it was slippy. I am very glad that they changed 323 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,920 their paper since that one. In particular that one had like 324 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,840 the sharp corners as well which makes for my personal thinking. 325 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,040 Like that's an aggressive notebook. 326 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,240 That notebook's trying to get me type of a thing. 327 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,040 But since then, the ones that I've been getting from them, 328 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,520 they do have a paper that's more kind of typical with what I 329 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,440 like, not so slippy, not so like, you know, long drying 330 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,480 times or anything like that. I think that you would like 331 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,040 them. It's more so just like akin to 332 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,040 our number one kind of paper. Yeah, well, it's good that they 333 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:04,800 changed that. I mean, I'm sure they got a lot 334 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,240 of feedback because the paper really does make such a big 335 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,080 difference and notebooks and know all of the planter pals 336 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,680 know that that's probably one of the most important things aside 337 00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:15,200 from the designs that are on the cover of these notebooks is how 338 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,640 well that paper performs and especially if you're using 339 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,720 different type of materials. I remember when I used that 340 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,600 original paper again, I'm sorry to keep going back in there, but 341 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,800 I just remember it so very vividly because I was using like 342 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,720 very inky pens and everything else. 343 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,360 And I was like, okay, and I remember putting ink in there 344 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,360 and like waiting and waiting and waiting. 345 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,560 I think it was almost over a minute for some of this ink to 346 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,280 dry. And I was like, this is just not 347 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,800 going to work for me. And so I don't know a whole lot 348 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,880 about paper necessarily like on the back end of things like what 349 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,000 it's made out of all the qualities or the makers or 350 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,600 things like that. But I definitely appreciate like 351 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,800 when people do know. But when before I buy a 352 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,640 notebook, I can see someone really using it to know if it's 353 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,840 right, because it does make a really big difference. 354 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,600 No, I would very much agree with that. 355 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,520 And I think that because they do have a varied kind of range in 356 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,920 terms of their paper, like both type and also just styling, it 357 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,600 can be a little bit tricky to know upfront which one you're 358 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,640 going to get. I've only found that has been 359 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,760 that one notebook, that one design that has the Super slippy 360 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,680 paper. And every other one that I've 361 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,680 had with them since has been the nice regular, not slippy, actual 362 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,880 good drying time papers, which makes them really great for R&D 363 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,680 notebooks, especially because they have a lower price point 364 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,560 and they have free shipping to like 30-4 different places or 365 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,200 something. One of those places is where I'm 366 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,720 based, which is definitely saying something because living 367 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,600 at the ass end of the world, shipping is heinous. 368 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,960 Shipping is killer. So it's really nice to have 369 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,120 somewhere that I can get notebooks from where it's not 370 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,560 going to cost me like double or like edging towards triple the 371 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,720 price because I need to pay the shipping on top of the notebook 372 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,600 cost. Yeah, it makes a really big 373 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,400 difference for you. I feel bad every time you buy a 374 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,240 notebook. It's just, you know, shipping it 375 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,400 to the ass end of the world, as you like to say. 376 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,960 It costs so much money to do that and I feel like over the 377 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,880 years it's just getting like more and more and more. 378 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,760 So that's fantastic if you have a opportunity with a lot of them 379 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,440 to do that. And to me, from something we 380 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,400 haven't really talked about so far, but is a really important 381 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,440 part of why we also like certain notebook brands like that shows 382 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,880 that they are trying to have a larger international audience. 383 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,080 When they make those things more easily available, they can get 384 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,720 to you. It's not a, you know, costing 385 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,640 you a crap ton of money, maybe a little bit more, but that makes 386 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,200 a big difference. Yeah, I know that like it's not 387 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,800 just New Zealand that suffers from this, depending on like 388 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,480 where certain brands are based and such people in the UK and 389 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,320 Europe and stuff who are also paying out the notice for 390 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,200 different brands and notebooks that they want to bring into 391 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,200 their stashes. But what would be your number 2? 392 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,680 So my number 2 is one that is very cool. 393 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,080 I like it a lot. It's the Night Owl Journal from 394 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,200 Al Paper. So Marissa owns this. 395 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,440 She's a very small business. She's doing this all on her own. 396 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,080 I actually was just chatting with her today because she's 397 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,600 starting to maybe experiment with some other sizes, which I'm 398 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,400 really excited about. But she sells her planners, 399 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,480 which are really neat. She actually built these with a 400 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,599 bullet journaler in mind, but it is predated. 401 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,599 And then a lot of the pages are pre filled out. 402 00:17:10,599 --> 00:17:12,440 It's also a great paper, but a lot of them are not. 403 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,319 So like the whole idea behind hers is she's like, OK, here's 404 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:17,920 the things that you need in your normal journal, right? 405 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,440 You have space for index, you have your monthlies, right? 406 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,400 She also knows that people like a weekly view, but also want 407 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,520 room to be able to write beyond just like what's on those weeks. 408 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,600 And I really liked it a lot. Now I always know me in this 409 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,280 paper. Tomorrow. 410 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,600 No tomorrow. I love. 411 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,720 It Why can't I say it the right way, Jess? 412 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,840 I don't know Tamoi. Tamoi River paper so there's 413 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,680 been like a change in that paper supposedly and like so she 414 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,040 actually stole like the good paper she was just talking about 415 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,760 it the other day, but like this whole idea is that like you've 416 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,120 got good paper, you've got a really good layout and it was 417 00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:01,600 something that I actually never thought that I was going to try, 418 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,440 but she had sent me one now the one that she sent me was bright 419 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,680 pink. So I got to customize it with 420 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,960 all of these cool stickers, which turned out very cool, but 421 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,800 I actually really loved using this notebook because it like 422 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,000 gave be the opportunity to like play around with different 423 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,800 things I wouldn't normally do. There's also like a calendar 424 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,760 inside of here so I could do time blocking and all kinds of 425 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,040 cool things inside of it. And you can either buy the next 426 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,440 of the year if you want, buy them at the same time. 427 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,160 She's been playing around with more colors and stuff like that 428 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,280 too. So I'm just like totally like 429 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,960 ooey and oolly over this because I really love the idea of these 430 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,880 and like everything that she puts into it. 431 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:39,960 So it's why it's one of my favorites. 432 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,520 I'm actually starting to use these for ink swatches in the 433 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,160 near future, like the older ones that I have that I didn't use 434 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,320 the full notebook because I switched out of it. 435 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,080 So, you know, it's just, you know, fun. 436 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,160 Several points because. Sorry that. 437 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,240 Was a lot, but no, I think that's a good point though. 438 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,640 Like you kind of mentioned this idea of like being able to trial 439 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,960 things love that also kind of knowing that there are going to 440 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,800 be specific notebooks that are going to be good for particular 441 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,680 functions. Like you mentioned, you didn't 442 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,960 really mind that this had the thinner paper because you were 443 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,120 using it in conjunction with something else that was your 444 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:13,560 kind of preferred paper type. Or like for for me with the 445 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,640 Kokuyo, it's like that's a scribble book. 446 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,640 It doesn't need the ultra deluxe paper or anything. 447 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,440 And I'm just going to be really messy in there. 448 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:21,960 So it's totally cool that it's dinner. 449 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,120 But even just slipping through the scribble book and having 450 00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:27,720 notes that are just, you know, random and maybe a mind map and 451 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,040 then some doodles and then whatever else, it's very 452 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,840 satisfying to have a completed notebook, even if it isn't 453 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:37,120 completed with things that are in the moment aesthetic or 454 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:40,200 beautiful or anything like that. A used notebook is the best 455 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,600 notebook. That's what I'm going to say 456 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,560 because it's just very satisfying. 457 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,040 It feels good. It feels like an accomplishment, 458 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,840 especially if you're the kind of person who picks up a notebook 459 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,680 being like, this is going to be the notebook that changes my 460 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,920 life. And then you use 2 pages and 461 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,320 then you put it on the back of the shelf and never look at it 462 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:56,160 again. Wah wah. 463 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,480 Well. That's why you have to find like 464 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,960 new homes for, like I said, even though I only used like the 465 00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:02,560 first few pages of this one. You know, I started using it for 466 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,080 ink swatches, right? And it's kind of finding new 467 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,240 uses for notebook is. I actually were just saying 468 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,720 finished a notebook. When I was going through my 469 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,280 notebooks, I realized that I actually finished this whole 470 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,800 like R&D sketch journal that I have. 471 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,160 I need to do a flip through of it on YouTube because I've done 472 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,560 a video in a minute, but just, you know, the idea of finishing 473 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,320 that. And then I'm thinking, what do I 474 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,880 do with it though? Like it's just a sketchbook. 475 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,440 I don't really need a lot that's inside of there. 476 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,240 Like am I going to throw this away after I do this flip 477 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,200 through? Because I really don't have a 478 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,480 need for it anymore. It served its purpose. 479 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,400 I'm going to put that down as a personal preference type thing 480 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,200 because I will not throw away my ones that I've used. 481 00:20:38,360 --> 00:20:42,120 It is very rare for me to actually part with one that I 482 00:20:42,120 --> 00:20:45,080 have completed, mainly because I use it as reference material for 483 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,360 the channel or anything like that. 484 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,680 But anything that's like a genuine scribble book I have 485 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,760 parted with. It was paying in the moment, but 486 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,120 it's one of those things that, like, parting with anything in 487 00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:56,320 the moment is painful. Like if you're in a decluttering 488 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,080 kind of state of mind or whatever, it's like, oh gosh, 489 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,280 you know, tension. What if I need this rah, rah? 490 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,960 And then the week passes and then you don't even remember. 491 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,640 Like I was sitting here thinking, did I throw out that 492 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,800 Scrabble book? Is, is it still here? 493 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,760 Is it in the room with us? No, it's gone. 494 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,520 It's been gone for like a month and a half now. 495 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,560 And I just forgot that I got rid of it. 496 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,440 Yeah, I don't. I would never get rid of a used 497 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,240 like bullet journal, something like that. 498 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,800 But this is just a sketch one where I'm just like, yeah, had 499 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,080 some idea is I think I was probably using it for some like 500 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,680 affiliate stuff or paid content or whatever. 501 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,560 It's like that had a purpose. But it is one of those things 502 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,520 though, where I was just like flipping through and I was like, 503 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,160 wait, like there's still some good pages. 504 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,680 I was like, no, there's not this. 505 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,840 This feels really good. I like it. 506 00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:38,920 The one down to 100 to go, you know. 507 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,960 Yeah, progress is progress, so we can still be proud of that. 508 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,040 But knowing that our number one is the same, what would be the 509 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,240 first reason that you love them so much? 510 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,160 All right, so everyone's guessed by now we are definitely talking 511 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,760 about our turn all of notebooks. Let's not beat around in the 512 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,400 Bush anymore. There's a whole lot of reasons 513 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,760 and I will not try to go on a tirade like I did on that last 514 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,680 one so that we could have a conversation today. 515 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,360 I would say that I think the reason that our turn all of 516 00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:09,600 notebooks are my favorite is because after coming from 517 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,040 notebooks that ghosted and bled through and I was such a 518 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,680 disbeliever that any notebook paper could actually not ghost 519 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,040 through. It was the most amazing feeling 520 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:25,480 to use one page heavily and then flip it over and feel like I was 521 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:30,280 actually on a fresh new page. That to me, is what honestly 522 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,360 made me fall in love with their notebooks. 523 00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:35,880 First was the fact that I never felt like I was wasting paper 524 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,960 and I always felt like I was starting on a nice new clean 525 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,080 page. No, that is very fair. 526 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,160 That was that was the reason why I was so interested in them to 527 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,440 start with, because back when I first got into Archer and Olive 528 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,520 notebooks, 160 GSM notebooks were not the normal, like 529 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,120 they're much more than normal now. 530 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,960 But back then it was everybody was in their LT19 seventeens or 531 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,640 their scribbles that matter. I was in a scribbles that 532 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,760 matter. So another thing that I really 533 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,880 loved about moving from scribbles that matter in 534 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,160 particular, like just to throw them under the bus a little bit, 535 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,640 sorry, but moving from a notebook that had branding on 536 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,680 the outside of the notebook to no branding on the outside. 537 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,080 That was also a selling point for me. 538 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,320 I'm like, I don't want to be like toting around my notebook 539 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,320 and just be like with your brand name printed on the back in 540 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,120 quite large text. Actually I think it was on the 541 00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:23,360 front in quite large text. I didn't, I've never thought 542 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:25,160 about that. I only ever think I had no, 543 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,240 never scribble. Dingbats was the one that I had. 544 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,840 I don't think I ever had a scribble that matters. 545 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,200 I never got into that, but it does make a big deal. 546 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,520 I mean, the cover design is definitely the other reason, you 547 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,160 know, that I really fell in love with them a lot. 548 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,560 There's so many different ideas and things like that. 549 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,320 And you know, I was just thinking about this the other 550 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:40,560 day. I was telling you before we 551 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,680 started recording today that there is the Mind Journal, which 552 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,800 is a journal I've looked at before that they had messaged me 553 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,400 to say that they were I guess not going to be in business 554 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,200 anymore. And I was thinking about it and 555 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,080 I was like, I wonder why, you know, like what from a notebook 556 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,360 business perspective, like keeps people in business, obviously a 557 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,560 good idea, good quality branding. 558 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,880 But the other thing that I really love about Archer and all 559 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,880 of, and I know some people like don't they like it, but they 560 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,200 don't like it is that it is forever changing. 561 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,120 There's always a new season, a new design, new things that are 562 00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:12,560 coming out. I don't, I honestly don't know 563 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,080 that a lot of notebook companies are really doing that. 564 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,440 Planners, yes, like I know that there's like the seasonal 565 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,400 planners, teacher planners, yearly planners, all of that, 566 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,800 Erin Condren, whatever those, all of that stuff. 567 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,000 I don't know what that genre is called, but our channel also 568 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,000 consistently delivers with like really cool designs. 569 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,160 And even when they're not really delivering and we all complain 570 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,480 about it, like they continuously are revamping, retrying and 571 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,440 doing new things, which also continuously keeps me excited. 572 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:39,720 Like I think that's how they hook us. 573 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,320 They know what they're doing. Oh, definitely they, they are, 574 00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:45,040 they are in, in the knowledge space of marketing and such. 575 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,240 Very much that. I think that in terms of the 576 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,760 design aspect of it, it also is really nice to know that like 577 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,120 people are designing that. And I, I especially in the day 578 00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:57,080 and age of computer generated imagery and all of that kind of 579 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,000 thing, knowing the people behind the designs, knowing who is 580 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,280 going and doing those things and putting their time, effort and 581 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,560 energy to bring us products that are absolutely gorgeous. 582 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,320 I also think that's really special. 583 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,320 Like obviously we both have a kind of personal connection with 584 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,400 Archer and all of having worked on their, what was previously 585 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,080 called the design team. Such a miss Norman, like so many 586 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,800 people like, Oh, you're designing the notebooks. 587 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,960 No, definitely not. We were writing blog posts and 588 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,240 making reels it. Was good I mean well, I mean as 589 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,360 a person who got to do that and actually design it like, you 590 00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:30,720 know, that was something that was really cool and it gave me a 591 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,160 totally new insight on that. It also made me feel like bad 592 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,000 when I've like talked poorly about some of their notebook 593 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,440 designs before because doing it myself, I realized there's a lot 594 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,560 that goes into it and then like to put something out and then 595 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:48,440 for people not to respond well to it maybe definitely like feel 596 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,600 a lot different very empathetic to the designers that do that. 597 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,960 But you're right, like it's cool to get to know them and see 598 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,560 that. I wish we had a little bit more 599 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,120 influence, but like no one will tell us anything usually in 600 00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:00,720 advance. And that's the thing too. 601 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,120 It's like they have to like design these notebooks so far in 602 00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:06,000 advance. And like you said, they know all 603 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,560 the marketing stuff and what's going on and like what's hot and 604 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,880 what's not for the most part. To think that like some cases 605 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,920 they're designing these like 6 months to a year in advance. 606 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,840 Like that's wild to me. Like my brain doesn't work more 607 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,840 than like a week or two in advance. 608 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,080 I can't imagine like that far ahead. 609 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,440 But I I just feel like most of the time they're hitting the 610 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,160 metal on the head with designs. I'm very impressed. 611 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,480 I don't even know how one could do that. 612 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,800 Like look into the crystal ball. Is blue going to be hot next 613 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,760 year? Blue is always hot. 614 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,120 They're always going to have blue journals. 615 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:40,080 The blue drug will never die. But no, I think it is. 616 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,840 It is nice to be able to just know that there are people 617 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,720 behind it, like you kind of were talking about with the idea of 618 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,280 not being too mean to the designs because you also know 619 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,000 the people behind them. Because I don't know. 620 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,400 Did you get any negative quote quote negative feedback about 621 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:55,640 your design? I love your design. 622 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,360 It's still on my shelf. I didn't declutter it. 623 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,360 No, I think they it sounds. Like I did. 624 00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:01,280 That sounded really fake. I didn't declutter it. 625 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,800 It's like proof of life. She's here. 626 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,880 She's here. He's living his best life over 627 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,440 there. No, I didn't get any criticism 628 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,160 on the design on the outside. The only criticism I actually 629 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,880 have for it as well is I wish the page numbers were a little 630 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,280 bit darker because now using this as my full time journal, I 631 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,320 was just studying the other day with a new page on one of my 632 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,720 collections and I had a really hard time like seeing the page 633 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,920 numbers. And I was like, if I ever got 634 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,920 the chance to do this again, I would make it a little bit 635 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,000 darker. And I kept it light because I 636 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,000 know a lot of the reasons they don't put page numbers in their 637 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,320 notebooks is not everyone uses page numbers. 638 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,080 But I was like, well, hell, if I'm going to get the chance to 639 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,920 do it, I'm doing it now. But it was just one of those 640 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,360 things where that was the only pieces that people, I mean, I'm 641 00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:47,200 not even hard of seeing, right? Like I don't have any visual 642 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,920 impairments and I have a hard time. 643 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,960 I can only imagine someone else with visual impairments, like 644 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,200 they probably can't see it at all. 645 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,560 But other than that, no. Like the only person actually 646 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,720 that had a criticism is when I had done the designs originally 647 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,240 and I had designed the spine, which had a different thing. 648 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,120 Here I showed my wife and she's like, what's Hoda? 649 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,440 And I was like, what? And she's like, it says Hoda on 650 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,320 the side of your notebook. And so the shapes, for whatever 651 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,560 reason, like spelled it out. So it had to get changed because 652 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,200 I was like, Oh my gosh, like, I would have never, ever seen 653 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,600 that. But that was like kind of the 654 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,920 whole thing with the notebook design was that it was supposed 655 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,880 to like have a lot of like, cool to find things inside of it. 656 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,480 Unbeknownst to me, it also spelled out words like thank 657 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,560 goodness it didn't say anything like graphic or else like that, 658 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,040 because that would have been very unintentional and very 659 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,680 unfortunate. But that was the only thing I 660 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,280 feel like from a feedback standpoint. 661 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,920 I'm sure that the marketing team would have had a fun spin on it. 662 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,000 You would have been fine. But yeah, it's probably going to 663 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,480 spot that ahead of time so it doesn't go out for full printing 664 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,800 with the Hoda on it. Yeah, I think that that OK if if 665 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,760 we're, you know, balanced reviews here. 666 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,480 If there was one thing that makes me a little sad about 667 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,520 Arthur and Olive is that it feels like every single item I 668 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,320 have from them is limited edition because it kinda is like 669 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,240 once they sell out, it very rarely comes back unless they do 670 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,720 one of those like bring back the favorites. 671 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,920 We love bring back the favorites because then you actually get 672 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,480 the opportunity to get the favorites that you missed out on 673 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,320 because the releases happened at 2:00 AM your time and you didn't 674 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,040 want to sacrifice your sleep to get a notebook And then you woke 675 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,680 up and I was sold out. Now you're depressed. 676 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,320 Doesn't always work like that because I just wake up for it. 677 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,640 I must be there at release. I must get my notebooks. 678 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,040 But everything being kind of limited edition or feeling 679 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,160 limited edition, that is a bit of a pain point. 680 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,080 So like those designs that they released several years ago, not 681 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,120 being able to just like easily jump on, get them at any time, 682 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,280 that makes me a little bit sad. It does for me as well, but I 683 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,960 think that's why I also love it so much. 684 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,840 It's like anything that you collect that's limited edition 685 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,040 like this whole like la Boo Boo phase thing that's happening 686 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,040 right now, right? Like the whole idea behind it. 687 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,520 It's just like defined like these special or rare ones and 688 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,960 show them off and I guess for now at least, right, like you, 689 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,280 you get what you get. I don't really know how it all 690 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,280 exactly works. I just see everyone talking 691 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,680 about them. They're on the boardwalk. 692 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,480 Everyone's talking about them. But like the notebooks though, 693 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,520 like when I was, you know, decluttering my own and I opened 694 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,920 them up and I was like, it's the original bee design. 695 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,520 Like that was like the one you had to have, right? 696 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,480 And a lot of like the old, like the wizard one they had for like 697 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,320 Halloween, like the broom and the potion bottle and the wand 698 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,280 and all of that. I, I want to use them. 699 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,920 I will, but just also knowing that like I can't get another 700 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,520 one of those immediately is a bummer. 701 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,360 And I know that was such a really big sticking point and I 702 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,800 know something to that they've really worked on to this whole 703 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,680 idea of like having to get online at then or else it's 704 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,160 selling out. You're never going to get it 705 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,440 again. Like I appreciate also if we're 706 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,320 talking about things we do like about them from that negative is 707 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,160 that they are listening to their customers. 708 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,280 They are there to try to make it a good experience for them. 709 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,040 They're also here to make money at the end of the day. 710 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,800 Let's just be honest, right? But the fact that like they are 711 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,520 doing like pre-orders for designs that people really like 712 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,520 so they can get a hold of them, but then the season moves into 713 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,840 the next one. And so it's kind of, you know, 714 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,440 they got to sell what they're doing, right? 715 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,040 And I think like that is just a part of business. 716 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,560 And again, we have this luxury and like insider knowledge to 717 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,560 know them. And we know more about the 718 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,680 business than probably the average person does just because 719 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,040 we've been a part of it to a certain extent. 720 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,280 But I, while I don't love it, I know people don't love it. 721 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,680 I also kind of like it because I am that type of person that 722 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,040 likes to be able to say like I have this and it does. 723 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,880 It bumps me out with people like Mark, when can I get your 724 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,760 notebook? I'm like, you can't because they 725 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,200 sold out. They don't have any more. 726 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,200 Well, especially like one of the very few things that we actually 727 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,920 did get to design when it was the design team with pins or 728 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,760 like, you know, lapel pin badges type thing. 729 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,960 My badge sold out in like an hour. 730 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,800 And so they were putting together the promo marketing 731 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,480 materials and stuff for it to release over the next couple of 732 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,320 days. And so they released the video 733 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,920 two days later. I'm like, oh look, there's that 734 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,320 pin that you can't get anymore. That's always hard, especially 735 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,160 like when we do our like unboxings or reviews or things 736 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,920 like that and you're just like, oh, I got this beautiful 737 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,520 notebook, man, I'd love for you to be able to get it, but you 738 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,040 can't because they're gone. And now it's just like we're 739 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,760 rubbing it in lightning and in. And it well, it's so hard too, 740 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,400 because you also don't know when stuff is going to like sell out 741 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,680 or in some cases like be discontinued. 742 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,160 Like I have this like uniball, you can like write on 743 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,760 everything. And I did this whole like all my 744 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,480 favorite stationary things. And literally like I had just 745 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,440 bought like 3 or 4 of them off of Amazon not long ago. 746 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,880 I put out the video. People are like, I have to have 747 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,520 that pen. And they go to like use the 748 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,280 link. They're like, oh, no, like 749 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,680 they're discontinued. I was like, what do you mean? 750 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,440 I literally just got them delivered to my house. 751 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,080 They're like, they are not unavailable. 752 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,320 I looked online, I looked on the the the website like they've 753 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,680 discontinued that pen and I was like, oh, well, well, now that 754 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,600 lives out there and people, I'm gonna, you know, it's like 755 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,960 probably one of the first things I'm like, I love this pen. 756 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,120 It writes on everything and then no one can ever get it. 757 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,000 It It's not the best thing in the world, but like, at least 758 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,000 you know, I'm passionate at. Least I'm enthusiastic about it. 759 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,080 You can share my joy from a distance. 760 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,640 I think that again, they are my number one for a reason. 761 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,920 Absolutely love them. But one of the things that is 762 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,880 bit of a curse is I live in New Zealand, shipping is expensive, 763 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,200 which we we do have the wholesalers or the stockist and 764 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,920 such and they have an international list for that 765 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,760 which I do very much appreciate because it means that people who 766 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,000 live a little further afield can get those at a more reasonable 767 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,880 rate. It is still more reasonable for 768 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,920 me to pay after an olive specifically rather than go to a 769 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,880 stockist. But it is always something that 770 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,600 I'm just like just don't look, just just press cash out and 771 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,040 don't look at it and it'll be fine. 772 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:48,640 Done. Is it over? 773 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,120 But I think no matter what, and this is true to form, like you 774 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,760 said, press the button no matter what, we just love what they're 775 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,120 doing. And that's why it's easy to 776 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,840 collect almost 200 notebooks of different sizes that you have is 777 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,520 like, that's love, that's fandom. 778 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,840 Like when you find something that you really like, I think 779 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,120 you will spend a little bit more on something like that because 780 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,960 you know it's quality at the end of the day. 781 00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:14,880 Yeah. And it's the thing I want to 782 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,480 support the people who have supported us, you know, being 783 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,440 able to be part of the ambassador team, be part of like 784 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,520 their growth and journey and such. 785 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,320 And I think that following along with our Trinola for as long as 786 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,120 we have, you have gotten to see that kind of like and I feel 787 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,480 like it's like our Trinol of law, like when you were here for 788 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,600 the first sub box or the first release of the Acrylographs or 789 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,639 like when they first bought out the calligraphs or anything. 790 00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:36,120 It's like we've been part of the journey, even if it's only from 791 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:40,600 the sidelines going like, yeah, give me some more notebooks or 792 00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:42,440 whatever. But being able to see that 793 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,639 evolution is the word I was thinking of, you know, going 794 00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:48,440 from the individual icon on the front, now the full cover 795 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,840 designs to the release of the new pens and then bringing in 796 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,080 washi and stickers and everything else they're doing. 797 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,840 It's great. We're die hard fans. 798 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,200 You already knew it, but we would love to hear from you 799 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,160 Platter pals. What are your favorite notebook 800 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,000 brands? What are the ones that you can't 801 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,600 say no to? The ones that you're going to go 802 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,520 back to time and time again? Let us know here on the comments 803 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,440 if you're on YouTube, or you can e-mail us at 804 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,560 plannerpalspodcast@gmail.com or hit us up on Instagram at 805 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,800 Planner Pals Podcast. I can't wait to hear from you 806 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,440 all in the comments, of course, to share new things because 807 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,560 we're going to be in those comments and I'm going to be 808 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,440 looking things up. I've got store credit, so I have 809 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,520 to have stuff that I have to buy. 810 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,320 I don't just got rid of a bunch of stuff, but like I'm always on 811 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,920 the look for something cool and new. 812 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,400 So until next time, Platter pals have a good one. 813 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,160 Thanks for watching.