1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,040 Welcome to the Planner Pals Podcast, a podcast hosted by two 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,560 true planner pals. I'm Jess or Jessica in. 3 00:00:05,560 --> 00:00:08,400 My name is Mark and I go by Mark your pages and we're back for 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,400 another great episode today talking about a topic that I 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:13,960 don't know. It's not like a sad topic 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,200 necessarily, but it can feel that way sometimes, both for you 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,960 and your planner because today we are talking about the planner 8 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,640 slump. And this is right about the 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,800 time, Jess, where I feel like we're all feeling it. 10 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,400 We were talking before we got started today we're like 11 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,800 completely separate from the topic itself, like something 12 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,000 just this doesn't feel right. Is it the planner? 13 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,800 Is it the life? Is the life affecting the 14 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,920 planner? And so today we're going to talk 15 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,400 about what is the planner slump, if you haven't experiences just 16 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,320 yet. And if you have experienced it, 17 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,040 we're going to share some of our own experiences and maybe be 18 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,880 some solutions or just blab on forever about where we are and 19 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,560 hope that you can help answer our questions. 20 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,360 Yeah, this is one of those like write in column kind of pieces 21 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,680 where you kind of write into the author and be like, this is all 22 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,480 of the issues in my life, please solve them. 23 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,280 That was definitely what it was like before we started filming. 24 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,400 I mean, honestly, isn't the planner supposed to be like, now 25 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,239 I need you to fix my life like I bought you now fix it all? 26 00:01:05,239 --> 00:01:07,200 And we expected to kind of do that for us. 27 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,520 And in many ways it does. But if you're like me or 28 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,840 honestly, like a lot of other planner pals, we know that this 29 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,080 happens. We get so excited about the 30 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,640 planner that we chose at the end of last year, we start using it, 31 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,400 we set it up and now we're a few months into it and it might be 32 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,080 time to figure out if there's kinks to work out or honestly to 33 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,040 see if maybe it's not the right planner for us. 34 00:01:29,320 --> 00:01:32,240 And that's like really hard decision where we're like, well, 35 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,000 I paid money for this. Yeah, exactly. 36 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,400 I think that, you know, the time spent with it, the effort spent 37 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,000 with it, the money spent with it really does factor into any kind 38 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,480 of decision making process around like, do we just stick it 39 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,000 through? Do we just keep going with it? 40 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,040 Do we switch it out or anything like that? 41 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,480 That is the sunk cost fallacy at work. 42 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,240 And I do try to avoid that, but it still gets me because, you 43 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,360 know, in previous flatter slumps that I've had where I get a 44 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,400 couple months into it and I sit there thinking like, oh, no, 45 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,400 this, this isn't the vibe anymore. 46 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,840 I'm just like, oh, well, we can probably do a couple more months 47 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,360 in it. Like you can probably ride out 48 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,759 to the end of the notebook. But what are you sacrificing by 49 00:02:10,759 --> 00:02:12,600 doing that? Like, you know, the productivity 50 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,040 sacrificed, the joy sacrificed. These are all also parts that 51 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,360 should be going into the decision making process outside 52 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,400 of just I spent money on it. But very rarely is that the 53 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,880 case. Oftentimes it's more so the kind 54 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,560 of like loud voices, like think of all of the effort you already 55 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,240 spent on this. Think of all the time you spent 56 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,920 with us already. It's definitely a difficult 57 00:02:30,920 --> 00:02:32,760 thing to kind of work through inside of our head. 58 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,640 So let's work through it together. 59 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:37,920 We all hold hands, we're all in a safe space. 60 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:40,680 As we talk about this kind of space where we are, I mean, 61 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,320 honestly, I think the best place to maybe start, we'll be talking 62 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,600 about our slump history. I just hit my 9 year Bujo 63 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,080 anniversary. So it's been 9 years since I 64 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,280 officially started bullet journaling and planning and kind 65 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,240 of morphed through there. So I've had, and I think you're 66 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,040 in the same exact boat, right? Nine years as well for you. 67 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,440 Yeah, I think that in November, start of November this year, 68 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,600 it'll be my 10 year anniversary. Feel like I'm gonna have to do 69 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,200 something special for it. You're like, yeah, but not 70 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,000 celebrate Bullet Journal itself because, baby, I moved away from 71 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,120 you. We have departed. 72 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,400 We were divorced. I don't know if we're coming 73 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,040 back. Yeah, that's right. 74 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,560 I think like, you know, people have divorce cakes, right? 75 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,240 That could be a thing. I'm not going to say that I'm 76 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,360 going to celebrate with a cake, but now I'm feeling like it 77 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,720 could be part of the party it. Definitely could be. 78 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,000 Well, I mean, I can go and share just a little bit of mine. 79 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,240 I've definitely hit a number of planner slumps throughout time 80 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,840 inside of mine. I remember my very first one 81 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,560 many eons ago was when I was bullet journaling and just 82 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,000 starting. And I remember getting probably 83 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,400 6 months into the bullet journal. 84 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,680 And just to give a little bit of background, if you haven't 85 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,480 listened to like one of our very first episodes, which actually 86 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,720 think talked about how we got into bullet journaling itself, 87 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,640 you know, I practiced in a bullet, a fake, kind of like a 88 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,520 faux bullet journal. I just really took some pieces 89 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,600 of paper and stapled them together to be like, OK, how do 90 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,720 I figure out the signal fires and how these bits and pieces 91 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,040 work? But when I finally like got into 92 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,240 it, I was all in. It's the only thing I talked 93 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,160 about. Oh my gosh, it was the only 94 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,080 thing I would ever talk to anybody about. 95 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,000 And I just remember like 6 months in and I was kind of in 96 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,720 this moment. I think it actually came right 97 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,800 after a long vacation and I came back to work and I used my 98 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,760 bullet journal almost primarily for work. 99 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,720 So made sense to kind of take that break. 100 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,280 And I came back and I was almost like, is it worth it? 101 00:04:26,280 --> 00:04:29,280 Do I need this? And I remember being like, you 102 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:31,400 know what, like maybe I don't, right? 103 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,360 Maybe I don't need this and I can just make things happen. 104 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,440 And I actually gave it a week because I was like, I don't 105 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,160 know, Mark, like giving it all up. 106 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,440 Let's see what happens. And it was so terrible. 107 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,240 Like I felt my life was falling apart. 108 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,880 I was forgetting things again. Like projects weren't getting 109 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,840 done on time. Like I wasn't getting back to 110 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:49,200 people. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, 111 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,560 no, we need to bring this back. And I brought it back into my 112 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,720 life. And I've been relatively happy, 113 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,200 you know, with it. But I just feel like a lot of it 114 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,040 kind of comes and goes. I can definitely say like the 115 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,280 one that followed up from that one was probably when I got into 116 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:06,520 more of the decorative bullet journal planning where I started 117 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,440 to add more color, more doodles, more stamps and things like 118 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,520 that. And I think after you're kind of 119 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,880 in it a lot, you've probably been here too and others have 120 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,440 done it too you, you kind of get a little sick and tired of like 121 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,360 doing all the stuff for your bullet journal. 122 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,920 But I think it's also like that moment for me when I start like 123 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,840 questioning whether like I'm working for my bullet journal or 124 00:05:26,840 --> 00:05:28,880 if my bullet journal working for me. 125 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,040 And that I think is like a big conflict area that gets me 126 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,720 sometimes. Yeah, definitely. 127 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,560 I think that some of my previous slumps have definitely been 128 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,800 around that kind of decorative element and almost like a kind 129 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,600 of creative burnout with your journal or, you know, if you've 130 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,960 kind of been going through the motions doing the same thing 131 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,160 over and over again, Which in a way can be nice because the 132 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,920 routine of it can make it something that's easier to stick 133 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,680 with, easier to keep up with or whatnot. 134 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,800 But if that routine is so time and labor and I don't know, 135 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,400 resource intensive, then that can also come with like a cost. 136 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:05,600 I found for me, one of my first kind of major planar slumps was 137 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:11,200 around that decoration and feeling like I almost had to do 138 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,520 it, which wasn't the case. I know that that's not the case. 139 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,720 Rational Jess knows that's not the case, but subconscious Jess 140 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,600 is like, are you even doing it right if you're not decorating 141 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,200 it? Again, she knows it's not the 142 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,240 case. But still, this was part of the 143 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,120 narrative for me. And I was also at the time 144 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,160 already sharing things online around my plan around how I did 145 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,160 it and such. So there was also this kind of 146 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,480 element of me putting other people's expectations ahead of 147 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,880 my own personal needs, my planner, but also putting their 148 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,840 expectations into their mouths for them. 149 00:06:41,840 --> 00:06:43,880 It's kind of like you're speaking for somebody else. 150 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,840 Nobody had actually told me if you stop decorating your 151 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:49,120 planner, I'm not going to watch your videos anymore. 152 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:52,400 But I had kind of, I don't know, established that narrative in my 153 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,040 head, which meant that that was a very kind of large part of my 154 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,680 decision making as to like, you know, how long I stuck with 155 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,400 decorative planning or how long I was doing that particular 156 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,520 style of decoration. Because one of the things that 157 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,200 was very much in the decision making process for me when I 158 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,720 started my channel was the idea of I want anybody to be able to 159 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,560 do what I'm doing in my planner. Thus I will use supplies that 160 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,120 everybody has accessible, like to them, they can actually get 161 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,200 these things. So for the most part, it was 162 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,520 like a pen markers, those kind of things. 163 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,320 There wasn't any tape or stickers or anything like that 164 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,240 because I didn't want people to need very specific supplies in 165 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,600 order to recreate things if they wanted to. 166 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,520 Whereas when I eventually changed, changed and started 167 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,040 using stickers and washi tapes and whatnot, people were like, 168 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,280 oh wow, I really love that I can do this too now because I can't 169 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,960 draw or like, you know, don't have the same level of drawing 170 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,120 ability that you were demonstrating in your videos. 171 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,960 So it really kind of highlights the number of times where I hold 172 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,640 off on making a choice because I'm making assumptions that 173 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,840 aren't necessarily true. Like in this case, it was, you 174 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,560 know, building that narrative around our people won't be able 175 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,280 to do XYZ or people want XYZ or whatnot. 176 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,520 First of all, it was my plan. I shouldn't even be thinking 177 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,640 about that, but it is still part of the thing. 178 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,920 So, you know, it kind of makes me question for future slumps 179 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,200 and like current slumps, possibly how much of the 180 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,120 decision making process is you just kind of like building up 181 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,760 the stories in your head or telling yourself kind of lies 182 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,800 almost. That's probably where some of my 183 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,240 slumps have definitely come from. 184 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,920 I mean, they definitely happen with the burnout part of and I 185 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,360 think there's probably definitely a difference between 186 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,640 burnout and the slump, but sometimes this slump is kind of 187 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,679 triggered by that burnout or I don't know which one kind of 188 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,000 feeds the other one. I mean, over the years, we've 189 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,600 seen a lot of people who have burnt out on the content 190 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,159 creation part of journaling. Or a topic that I'm interested 191 00:08:42,159 --> 00:08:45,400 for us to talk about in the future is this idea of like, do 192 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,160 you outgrow a journal or outgrow a planner? 193 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,240 Right. Maybe you used it for a time in 194 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,320 your life or a season in your life and you're beyond that now. 195 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,160 And you may or may not really need that. 196 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,440 And I think that's the really hard thing for maybe some people 197 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,400 to realize. And they hold on for longer and 198 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,240 longer pieces because kind of to your point, from the creator 199 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,120 standpoint, you have an audience. 200 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,200 People expect those things from you or they like to see them 201 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,720 from you. And you are like, OK, well now 202 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,480 I'm just feeding this monster, but like, I'm not in it. 203 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,640 My heart's not in it anymore. Like, I don't actually need this 204 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,520 thing, so I'm just going to keep doing it. 205 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,320 And I think there's a part of that that like leads to that 206 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,080 burnout and like I'm giving it up. 207 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,960 But the slump part of it, though, I think is a little bit 208 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,640 different. And again, if you're not a 209 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,200 content creator, you're not making videos or posting online, 210 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,320 the slump is still a very real thing. 211 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,920 Like I currently am kind of not really, I'm kind of in a slump, 212 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,160 but I think I'm also just kind of like bored right now with 213 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,760 myself a little bit right where I'm just like, am I really using 214 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,160 this to my my fullest ability? But that's completely regardless 215 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,760 of what video. So I'm making like I feel like 216 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,600 now like my audience knows, like they're on, they're on a ride 217 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,800 with me for like a certain amount of time. 218 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,640 Whatever the hyper focus moment is for me right now, things are 219 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,520 going to change. But like the bullet journal has 220 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,120 always stayed. But like right now I'm kind of 221 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,200 in this like size slump, I guess is the best way to kind of call 222 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,200 it. You know, I'm using my B5. 223 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,960 I used that last year and I really liked it. 224 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:16,280 What I'm noticing right now, for instance, is that my daily 225 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,040 day-to-day work is kind of changing where I don't know that 226 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,720 I need that size, but I bought this hemlock and oak. 227 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,400 I set it up. I like this notebook. 228 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:30,040 It's not doing anything bad for me necessarily, but I'm just 229 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,080 kind of like, oh, but like I have this new trifold that I can 230 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,240 put an A5 inside of and like I'm really excited about that. 231 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:41,080 And so I'm just like creating my spreads now and not that I'm 232 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,280 half assing it, but like I'm just not, I'm not whole assing 233 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,200 it. I'm not going above and beyond 234 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,840 for it now. I'm like a few stamps a few days 235 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,480 of the week. I'm good because it's all I kind 236 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,640 of need right now. So I think there's also just 237 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,960 like I'm not burnt out from a journal or posting or doing 238 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,960 anything. It's just like kind of just not 239 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,640 currently motivated or currently inspired by my current 240 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,880 situation. Yeah, I think the boredom can 241 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:09,240 definitely be a kind of reason behind getting into a plan of 242 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:10,920 slump. So, you know, burnout can be a 243 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,720 reason, Boredom can be a reason. The materials that we're using 244 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,440 can definitely be a reason. So like you know, you've said 245 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,120 you do like your notebook that you're using. 246 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,440 It's just maybe the size isn't quite right for you right now, 247 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:25,400 especially like when life changes happen, whether it's for 248 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,080 work or personal life or something new that you need to 249 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,040 plan for or want to plan for and your current system doesn't 250 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,600 really accommodate that. That can also lead to slump 251 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,880 energy because now the planet that was working so well for you 252 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,360 isn't because you've got this new set of needs that you have. 253 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,520 I know for me in terms of like the supply specifically, another 254 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,680 slump kind of period was when I was transitioning over from the 255 00:11:48,680 --> 00:11:52,640 Lt. 1917 into what was then the scribbles that matter for me. 256 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,960 So just having that thicker paperweight because I was 257 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,240 getting into slump energy around my layouts because I was so sick 258 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,520 and tired of the ghosting and the bleeding because it didn't 259 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,200 lend itself nicely to the style of planning I was doing. 260 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,760 So that was kind of like a slump period as well. 261 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,880 Specifically, kind of tied to the fact that the supplies I was 262 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,560 using weren't fit for the purpose that I was giving my 263 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:16,480 planner at the time. Yeah, side note is scrolls that 264 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,560 Matter still around? I have not heard that planner 265 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:20,520 brand in so long. I think they are. 266 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,280 I think they just go by STM now, but I don't really see them 267 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,520 around as much. Yeah, I remember there was a 268 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,120 real big time when like that was like the next journal to have 269 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,520 was that pre Archer and Olive. It was for me at least. 270 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,400 I mean, I know that they had like the thicker paper. 271 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,360 I remember being like early on I was like who needs that? 272 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,320 And I think I've mentioned this before, like when I spent $17.00 273 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:47,480 on my first Lt. 1917, I was like, why am I spending this 274 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,520 much money that the scribbles that matter were a lot more 275 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,720 almost double the price. And I was like, I don't 276 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,960 understand how people could spend this much money on a 277 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,960 notebook. Now I do know why, because the 278 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,680 qualities of the figs, but yeah, sorry, I just haven't heard that 279 00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:02,680 name in a while. And I was like, oh, are they 280 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,040 around? No, that's all good. 281 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,040 I mean, what previous notebook brands that I've used, I started 282 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,680 Lt. 1917 like, you know, officially we're not thinking 283 00:13:10,680 --> 00:13:13,600 about pre planners like, you know, the school diary or 284 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,360 anything like that. But then it was STM Scribbles 285 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,040 Nevada, then it was Dingbats and then since then it's just been 286 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,440 like exclusively ultra and olive for all of my everyday journals 287 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,680 with some tifosi chucked in for R&D notebooks and other things 288 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:28,320 like that. So it's interesting to think 289 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,360 about, you know, when slumps occurred and what kind of things 290 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,880 I did to get out of them. Obviously, we're not going to 291 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,320 talk about that just yet. We're still talking about the 292 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,360 slump itself. We got to establish the base, 293 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,640 you know, the base cases here. But I'd be very curious to like, 294 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,680 map a timeline of when I transitioned to new notebooks, 295 00:13:46,680 --> 00:13:49,920 what notebooks they were, and where my slumps were, and see if 296 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,760 there's any kind of like correlation between them. 297 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,120 I'm sure that there is. I mean, I think a real big thing 298 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,640 that happens with slumps too, is just when the planner or the 299 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,840 idea or the method just isn't, isn't working for you. 300 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,800 I mean, how many people will probably pick up bullet 301 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,720 journaling because they saw it talked about in some way, shape 302 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,680 or form? You know, you put the time, the 303 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:09,720 energy, the effort, like you said into it. 304 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,240 You understand how to do said method. 305 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,240 And then you get kind of two or three months in which I, I 306 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,680 believe personally is a good amount of time to give something 307 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:20,560 a good try and it's just not working for you. 308 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,120 It's kind of what I was saying before, like are you working for 309 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,840 your bullet journal or is your bullet journal working for you? 310 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,920 Because when the bullet journal is working for me, oh, I feel 311 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:29,960 good. I'm moving, grooving, I'm 312 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,240 grooving, I'm having a good time. 313 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:32,760 I know where things are, they're happening. 314 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,200 But like when I've used other planners or methods that are not 315 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,560 that, I'm just like, well, wait, where does this go? 316 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,440 Oh, do I put it on here? Where does you know? 317 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,360 And then you kind of get yourself like overrun. 318 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,840 I mean, I got like that when I had, I remember, gosh, what was 319 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:53,400 a few years ago, I had an A5 size bullet journal and then I 320 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,640 had a dated planner. And this was the data planner 321 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:02,400 from appointed because I really, really liked the format of it. 322 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,760 And like how the appointed one was kind of organized, but the 323 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,320 paper did not fit my needs. So I was, I had two different 324 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,520 pens that I wrote with. I wrote one that was safe for 325 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,640 that planner. And then I had like my fountain 326 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,960 pens or other pens I used in my bullet journal. 327 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,120 And I got a few months in and I was like, I can't, I can't do 328 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,560 this anymore. Like it's pointless for me to 329 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,520 like have a pen to put things over in this planner. 330 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,280 And then in my bullet journal, it was just too much. 331 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:30,600 And I was just like, I'm over this. 332 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,200 And I just consolidated back to the bullet journal. 333 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,400 And then now I've kind of moved beyond that to say, OK, well, 334 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,840 now incorporate like a calendar into your bullet journal, 335 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,160 general future log. Like that was my evolution. 336 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,000 But I was just like, I got to the point where I was I was in 337 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,600 that slump and I was like, this just isn't working for me 338 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,120 anymore because it's just too much. 339 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,720 And then, you know, you kind of make a decision from there. 340 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,800 And I think that's a really important part. 341 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,640 And we'll get into that just a moment about like diagnosing 342 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,920 your slump. But is that realization part for 343 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:04,720 you to feel like it's OK to make a change, even though you've put 344 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,480 like we've mentioned the time, money, effort and all of those 345 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,320 things into it? It's just like sometimes it's 346 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,040 just so hard to just bring yourself to make that decision 347 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,760 because you feel like you're failing because you set this 348 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,960 thing up and you were so like gung ho on it. 349 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,120 But I think the bigger part is like realizing that it's an 350 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,280 evolution of where you're going, but you have to kind of do a few 351 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,000 things, which like I said, we'll talk about on on how to kind of 352 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,880 get through that, identify and then move on. 353 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,360 Yeah, I think that you're this idea of splitting plans out or 354 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:40,320 like having multiple or whatnot, that can also definitely be a 355 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,680 kind of recipe for slump energy. Because a previous instance that 356 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,720 I've had is when I was, you know, entering the new teacher 357 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,000 year and I was really interested in the idea of this work life 358 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,760 separation because I was finding I did not have work life 359 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,640 balance. I was constantly working. 360 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,760 I found it really hard to leave work at work. 361 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,720 Like if you're a teacher, you know, that's the case. 362 00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:03,720 But I found that because that was such a problem for me, the 363 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,160 solution that I thought was going to help me was having a 364 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,200 separate teacher planner where I put all of my teacher planning 365 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,640 related stuff in there. And then any other kind of 366 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,200 planning I needed to do would go into my bullet journal. 367 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,000 But but what I found is that that gave me like huge, huge 368 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,480 slump energy because I didn't have my planners on me all the 369 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,760 time like I usually would because I wanted to keep my 370 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,640 teacher planner at work, because I wanted that separation. 371 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,160 But often times when I had a thought about teacher planner 372 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,880 related stuff, it might not necessarily be on my person with 373 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,640 me. If I was at home, it definitely 374 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,400 wasn't with me. And then the only things that 375 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,960 were left in my regular personal bullet journal kind of space 376 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,720 were chores. I'm like, well, that's super 377 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,760 inspiring. Absolutely love that. 378 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,800 So it was just like the kind of places I was putting the 379 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,520 information, it was still the same information, but because I 380 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,320 had split it out, that sent me into a plan of slump. 381 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,800 So that was kind of a challenge point. 382 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,320 Definitely did not happen though that this also happened in 2020 383 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,360 and we all know what happened in 2020. 384 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,720 So, you know, just because we're feeling like slump energy in our 385 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,000 planner doesn't necessarily mean it's something that we have 386 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,080 specifically done or, you know, something that is a fault of our 387 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,760 own. First of all, probably isn't 388 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,080 your fault. I'm going to blame the planner. 389 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,920 It's its fault, look at it. But secondly, it could just be 390 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,480 life in general. Like there are things external 391 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,960 to our planners, external to us working in our planners that 392 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,800 will have a really big impact or influence on our mindset when 393 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,720 we're coming into work with our planners as well. 394 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,920 It's a really good point. I think depending where you are, 395 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,640 what's going on, there's sometimes just bigger things 396 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,400 than filling out your bullet journal, you know, that are just 397 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,960 happening and it's really not the time for it. 398 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,920 I mean, I kind of think almost like we said, the seasons of 399 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,320 planning as well as like maybe you're just beyond that. 400 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,720 It's not working out for you and trying to figure it out. 401 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,160 One thing I wanted to ask you, Jess, around this and again 402 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,240 we're pondering on this, but like, why do you think these 403 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:58,560 planner slumps tend to happen a lot of the time at like this mid 404 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,440 year mark? Like, what do you think it is 405 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,600 exactly that's causing us to really rethink how we're taking 406 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,920 on planning, journaling, anything like that? 407 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,640 I think that by the time we get to mid year, especially if 408 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,480 you're using like a year long planner or something like that, 409 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,120 it can be this kind of combination of a loss of 410 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:20,480 motivation and just boredom. Like the monotony of doing the 411 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,320 same old, same old can sometimes really start to get to us. 412 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,520 And even if you're not, you know, depending on where you're 413 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,480 based, sometimes it'll be a seasonal thing. 414 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,440 I personally don't like hot weather. 415 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,240 Hot weather is not for me. So in summertime, I'm just like, 416 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,040 I'm going to be like, what's the reverse of a lizard? 417 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,520 I want to be a reverse lizard. I'm going to stay as far away 418 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,760 from the sun as possible. But also where I'm actually 419 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,680 based. This is the time when we have 420 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,680 our darkest days, coldest weather, everything is rainy. 421 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,400 So it's like there could be that kind of an impact happening as 422 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,560 well. If we're thinking about people 423 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,160 who are in a place where the weather is a little nicer and 424 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,120 they are the kind of person who does get out and do things and 425 00:19:58,120 --> 00:20:01,120 such, maybe you just don't have as much time to dedicated to 426 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:03,920 working in your planner. It could be a range of things. 427 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,000 I think for me personally, it's usually the boredom factor. 428 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,800 Started the year with like really kind of good intentions, 429 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,840 motivation, excited energy. Like yeah, this is the year I'm 430 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,680 going to get my life together or whatever. 431 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,000 I feel like I'm constantly trying to get my life together. 432 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,600 But anyway, and then we get to the mid year point, I'm just 433 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,760 like. But like, is it my year? 434 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,600 Is it though? What do you reckon? 435 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:25,960 No, I think you're exactly right. 436 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,240 And depending on how you use your planner and where you use 437 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,840 it, I mean for myself, if you use your planner or your bullet 438 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,640 journal for work, you know, a lot of the times it's all the 439 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,760 big ideas, the big things we're planning for the year, the big 440 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,320 projects, the road maps, all those things. 441 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,200 And right about this time, honestly, earlier than this, 442 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,040 probably in like more around like the March time frame, that 443 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,160 end of the first quarter, so many of those planes have gone 444 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,120 out the window, right? And and all of those Rd. maps 445 00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:55,560 are now completely blown. The bits, all of that early. 446 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,880 Is my journal going to fix my life excitement? 447 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,560 It's starting to kind of go along with the shrapnel of 448 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,680 things being blown apart. You know, even the seasonal 449 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,800 part, like you just talked about makes a lot of sense. 450 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,800 I've never really connected it to that, but that makes a lot of 451 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,400 sense too, especially if like you're affected by like, what is 452 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,280 it the like the seasonal affective disorder? 453 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,120 Is that what it's called? You know, so if it's like 454 00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:20,920 seasonal depression or things like that, that really does play 455 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,200 a really big part in it when you just don't want to open your 456 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,680 notebook or like you're just not really feeling it. 457 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,280 I think, you know, being able to identify a lot of that the same 458 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,000 way you would with any type of like depression or things like 459 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,440 that. It's like a really important 460 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,240 part of it. Whether you know, a lot of the 461 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,080 times, especially with like ADHD, like I'm starting to 462 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,040 realize a lot of my impulsivity and I'm like stopping myself. 463 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,160 I'm actively currently trying to do this with a lot of things 464 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,360 where previously I'd be just very impulsive by it, do it, 465 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:52,440 kind of make it happen. And I feel like that is how I 466 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,160 get myself into these places too. 467 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,040 Like my trifold that I bought, you know, like this was, it was 468 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,440 impulsive buy. I didn't need this, but I got it 469 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,800 and I wanted it and I love it so much. 470 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,200 Jenny Bick is where I got this one. 471 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,040 It's so much fun. But like this is ready for me to 472 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,920 do. I've got my, you know, little 473 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,440 stamp journals in here. I've got my ink journal in here. 474 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,040 All I need now is an A5 bullet journal to complete this little 475 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,680 baby and get it all together. But like that was an impulsive 476 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,000 buy, which then led me to the excitement around it, which then 477 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,120 I come home and I like look at my B5 and I was like, I don't 478 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:28,040 like you as much anymore because I'm excited about this over 479 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,400 here. But it is very much about that's 480 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,080 how I am with like materials and things like that too. 481 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:38,400 Because I think my solution to the boredom is to buy new thing 482 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,640 to excite me about it. Like, you know, buy new pens or 483 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,560 new stickers or new stamps, you know, go on a journal, say haul 484 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,840 for myself and then come back with, you know, $150.00 worth of 485 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,760 new cool things to play with. And sometimes that works. 486 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,200 I'll be honest with you. Sometimes that's all that I need 487 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,160 to do that. But it really is just kind of 488 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,200 like so many life things have happened by this point. 489 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,800 You really are kind of second guessing and really thinking 490 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,360 about, OK, here's where I am now. 491 00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:09,680 It's mid year points. It's a really good point. 492 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,200 I feel like to take a look at yourself and what's happening 493 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,760 currently and say, OK, how am I going to finish out this year? 494 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:20,240 And if your planner is not making you happy, you don't want 495 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,400 to spend the next six months with that planner, like that's 496 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,120 not going to make you happy, right? 497 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,800 Or if something is really working out for you, but it 498 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,360 needs a few little tweaks, now is a fantastic time to tweak 499 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:34,600 some of those things to set you up for the rest of the year to 500 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,280 to see how well those things work. 501 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,240 So I really do think that's like one of the main areas where 502 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,040 you're like, OK, this is mid year point feels right to me 503 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,520 because I've given it a go. I've been using the same thing 504 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,920 for, you know, almost six months now. 505 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,240 So let me go ahead and just set myself for success for the next, 506 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,080 you know, five to six months. Yeah, because I think that's the 507 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,520 thing that when it comes to this mid year planner slump and 508 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,840 whatnot and you're throwing baby out with the bathwater and 509 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,760 whatever, we still have so much time left in the year to make 510 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,880 things happen, get things done, all of that because my planner 511 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,680 is typically the place where I'm planning things to get done. 512 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,240 That's kind of where my mindset goes to. 513 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,120 It's like I still have time to get things done, so why slog 514 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:17,400 through with a planner that isn't helping me get things 515 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,080 done? What changes can I make, what 516 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,520 adjustments? And may not necessarily be like, 517 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,360 Chuck the planner out and get a new one. 518 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:26,280 That's not necessarily the solution here. 519 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,560 But I think that before you even start to brainstorm solutions, 520 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,920 the biggest thing is figuring out like the causes or the 521 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,560 reasons. Like why is it that you are in a 522 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,920 slump specifically? Because, as we've just noted, 523 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:39,320 there are plenty of different reasons why you could be in a 524 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,960 slump, and different reasons are going to have different 525 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,200 solutions for them. Absolutely. 526 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,920 So let's talk about that a little bit. 527 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,720 How have you or how do you sort of diagnose yourself with in a 528 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,160 slump? What does that look like for 529 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,240 you? So typically speaking, I will 530 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,720 tackle pretty much anything planner related when I'm 531 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,800 starting to think about making changes or not whatnot with a 532 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,080 want analysis. I love the want analysis. 533 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,560 I love how flexible it is. If you haven't heard me talk 534 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,600 about it, first of all, you must be new here. 535 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,240 Secondly, the want analysis stands for wins, aversions, 536 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,600 needs and to try and through doing that, through thinking 537 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,080 through those categories of things with my planner, I can 538 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,520 usually identify like, OK, well, it's not everything sucks. 539 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,480 It's more so these things don't work. 540 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,520 What could I do to actually adjust and move like, you know, 541 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,480 forward with a bit more intention. 542 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,040 So in terms of breaking that analysis down W wins. 543 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,680 This is all the stuff that is working. 544 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,920 I like to start with the positive because all too easily 545 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,960 I will fall into my negativity bias and just be like everything 546 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,480 is awful, everything sucks. This is the worst. 547 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,920 So by starting with the stuff that is working, it just kind of 548 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,920 has a little bit more of a positive spin on it. 549 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,240 And it can be really small things like, oh, I really like 550 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,880 how I've been using stickers in this way. 551 00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:56,960 I really like how my lettering has looked on these weeklies. 552 00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:00,880 I really like the placement of my trackers or something like 553 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,600 that. Just the little things, totally 554 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,280 fine. Doesn't have to be huge things 555 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,240 for any category. It doesn't have to be huge. 556 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,320 But once we've done wins, once we've thought about the 557 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,040 positive, then it's the inversions. 558 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,760 This is the stuff that is not a win, the stuff that sucks. 559 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,480 What specifically is not working? 560 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,880 So rather than just saying like the planner doesn't work or like 561 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,560 I am in a slump, which like, wow, very helpful. 562 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,880 No, no, no, no, we're going to get a little more granular with 563 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,800 it. OK, Specifically what is not 564 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,360 working for me. So it could be like, I'm not 565 00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:31,440 remembering to come back and check in with my tracker, or I 566 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,040 don't feel that the habits and routines I'm keeping track of 567 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,560 are actually helping me, or I'm not remembering to open my 568 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,760 planner, or I can't easily transport it to work. 569 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,920 Like all of those different aversions or different problems, 570 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,680 Again, I have different solutions. 571 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,120 So I want to make sure that I'm being very specific and very 572 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:51,520 particular about those so that then when I start to figure out 573 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,000 ways forward, they're actually aligned with solving those 574 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,080 problems. In terms of N for needs, this is 575 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,000 thinking about the stuff that my planner should be hopefully 576 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,520 fulfilling for me moving forward. 577 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,120 So if we're thinking about a mid year check in, it's like cool, 578 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:08,240 for the next 6 months, what do I have coming up that I'm going to 579 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,200 need to plan for? Or what do I kind of hypothesize 580 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,960 that will become needs for me? Are there any projects or goals 581 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,680 that I'm thinking about working on or tackling or whatnot? 582 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,200 And what will I need to put in my planner to accommodate those 583 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,360 kind of things? And then for AT try this is 584 00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:27,760 specifically looking at my needs and the aversions and thinking 585 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,560 about what I could do to solve for those or accommodate those 586 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,360 things. So it's like if one of the 587 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:36,280 aversions is I'm not checking in with my habit tracker, then 588 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,760 maybe it's like, OK, is it the planner's fault? 589 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,240 Or could I just have like an alarm set on my phone at 5:00 to 590 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,600 say like check in with your tracker? 591 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,240 Or if it's like, OK, I have this goal of project that I know is 592 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,400 coming up in quarter four. Well, what kind of layouts could 593 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,240 I put into my planner to help me plan for those things? 594 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,360 It's kind of like an all in one, one kind of process, but you 595 00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:59,280 really just start with the West and the A and really kind of 596 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,000 analyze what isn't isn't working to start with. 597 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,360 And then the other two sections are more so forward thinking, 598 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,560 but that's what helps me. What do you do? 599 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,960 Well, first I heard a new word today that I have to share with 600 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,400 you that someone said when you said about like putting 601 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,960 something on your calendar to remind you to do something. 602 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,760 I was in a meeting today and someone called that a tickler. 603 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,840 They're like, oh, I'll put a tickler on my calendar. 604 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,400 And I was like a what? And they were like, oh, it's 605 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,360 like a reminder. I just call it a tickler. 606 00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:27,120 And now I want use it. That's I think it's such a 607 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,440 weird, like hilarious word to use like, Oh, I put I'm going to 608 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,040 jot that a tickler for that one. I was like. 609 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,920 Well, there's certainly one way to to word it. 610 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,560 That is not what my first thought was. 611 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,520 I'm just like, Oh yeah, tickle time with whoever. 612 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,120 Like, yeah, put that on my calendar. 613 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,280 Yeah, each to their own. If it helps them remember, then 614 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,520 it's totally fine. Yeah, we don't King Journal 615 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,280 shame here. You do whatever you got to do 616 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,680 for yourself. But I think a big thing for me 617 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,480 is understanding. So some thing I do, I've used 618 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,560 the one analysis. I typically do that for new 619 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,360 journals, but my mid year looks a little bit different. 620 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,640 What I actually do is actually just do an audit of my current 621 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,640 process and journal. I've multiple journals are 622 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,200 planners. I'm looking at everything all 623 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,280 together and I'm essentially just taking a trip down memory 624 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,400 lane for the past four to five months or wherever you kind of 625 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,280 fall. I start at the very beginning. 626 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,120 I just take a look at my index and my writing things inside of 627 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,920 here. How does this make me feel right 628 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,880 and go to like my future log most of the time? 629 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,720 Like I was just thinking myself. I was like, I actually don't 630 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,800 know the last time I added anything to my future log 631 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,960 because I have something different that I'm doing now, 632 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,920 like with all of this. And I'm like, OK, am I using 633 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,640 this? Am I not like, what is it giving 634 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,040 me? And then I'll just go through my 635 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,280 weeklies and honestly, sometimes too, I'll I'll be like, Oh, I 636 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,640 totally forgot to migrate this task. 637 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,320 I should probably pick this back up if it's timely, but I'll go 638 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,400 through that. Just be like, okay, what's 639 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,360 working for me and, and for myself, a lot of the time I'm 640 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,080 paying attention to like how I'm utilizing my weeks and I'm 641 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,240 taking a look and saying, OK, I set up a two page spread or you 642 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,000 know, a spread on this page for this week and I used half of it. 643 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,080 I even use that second page. And I'm kind of looking for 644 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,240 these trends where I'm saying, oh, you know what, probably for 645 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,280 the past three or four weeks, I've only really used one side 646 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,960 of my journal. So why am I taking all this time 647 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,360 to set up a spread and on 2 pages and all these different 648 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,960 pieces when in reality, I'm not, you know, using my big like 649 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,440 weekly areas for a task or whatever. 650 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,560 Like I'm realizing for myself, just to give like a real life 651 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,160 example, most of my weeklies I set up pretty large areas for 652 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,840 like the days of the week. And I usually will typically put 653 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,520 task or events or appointments inside of there. 654 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,440 But recently I've been making them pretty big and I'm 655 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,600 realizing I'm not really utilizing that space all the 656 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,120 way. And that could be a reason why 657 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,760 I'm making these two page spreads because I think that I 658 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,240 need that space, but I really don't so I can shrink it down. 659 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,840 Mark, what's more important, honestly, what's most important 660 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,040 is that I know what day of the week and what the date is 661 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,560 because I reference that so much. 662 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,960 So it's not really the space, but what I need from it kind of 663 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,680 goes into the want analysis is the day and the date and then 664 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,960 maybe, you know, a handful of things that happened that day, 665 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,960 whatever that might look like. And then when I get to the end 666 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,760 of that, and I forgot to mention this, have like a scrap piece of 667 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,920 paper or, or a page in your journal, a collection page where 668 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,960 you're writing kind of these things down, what's working, 669 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,520 what's not working for you? And then you're just going back 670 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,000 through that. So it's very similar to the one 671 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,480 analysis, but if you're not trying to like fill in a 672 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,840 quadrant because you're not quite sure, this works just 673 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,720 fine, like a brain dump almost. And then from there I'm just 674 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,120 really kind of looking at it. I'm kind of pulling up and 675 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,880 picking up like, again, that what's working and what's not 676 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,240 working for myself to then realize and start to diagnose, 677 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,400 OK, what is the problem? Is it that I'm, you know, 678 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,760 closing my notebook at the end of every day and then it's not 679 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,240 open when I start my day, therefore I'm not looking at it? 680 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,200 Or is it something more along the lines of like, not a lot's 681 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,160 going on right now and so I don't really need all of that 682 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,640 kind of space. And I mean, the one thing I like 683 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,640 about my bullet journal is that it's so open because sometimes 684 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,400 things are busier and sometimes they're not. 685 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,600 So sometimes it's just changing my approach to it. 686 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,880 And that's really kind of how I take it on honestly. 687 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,920 And like I said, when I had the bullet Journal plus the planner, 688 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,880 at this point, I was just like the duplications not having it 689 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,120 for me. It's totally OK, we're going to 690 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,440 retire the planner and just stick to the bullet journal 691 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,560 because that's what has always worked for us. 692 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,200 So I would kind of make that same decision at this point 693 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,640 right now for myself and just say like, oh, it is definitely 694 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,160 too much. So I'm going to condense down to 695 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,800 what is working for me. If it's not working for me at 696 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,160 all, then I might want to just take a look through. 697 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,720 And again, with the bullet journals, pretty 698 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,680 straightforward. It's like I'm not using my 699 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,800 index, I'm not using my future log. 700 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,240 I'm barely using weeklies, I'm not using a monthly overview. 701 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,600 I'm not going and filling out my habit tracker. 702 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,400 Like maybe this whole thing and not that the habit tracker is 703 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,160 necessarily a part of the bullet journal method, but like the 704 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,680 collection page, you know, is whatever it might be, it just 705 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,000 might be like, you know what, man, take it back to the basics. 706 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,120 And I've done that before too, where I've just completely just 707 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,560 put all the extra stationary pens, stickers, all that away. 708 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,320 And I just went back to the basic straightforward bullet 709 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,640 journal method to like reset myself. 710 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,600 And sometimes that's been super helpful to be like, yeah, why am 711 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,640 I doing this? Like it's like remembering your 712 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,960 why. Like, why did I decide to use 713 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,000 this method, this notebook? Whatever it might be, I've just 714 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,600 gone too far with it and now it's time to rein it back in. 715 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,120 Yeah, I find that the utilization of the want analysis 716 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,560 for me is kind of similar to the analysis that you're doing. 717 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,960 I used to previously set it up as kind of a quadrant thing. 718 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,560 So we had like there WANT like on quarters on a page or 719 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,600 something. But nowadays what I typically 720 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,240 do, because I cannot be trusted to do 1 section at a time 721 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,120 anyways because I'm just not that way inclined, is that I 722 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,000 will set it up using the Alistair method. 723 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,960 So I have 4 columns on the side, actually 5 S, 5 columns on the 724 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,240 side of a checklist. So one for WANT and then one 725 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,040 just for like a task bullet kind of a thing. 726 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,200 And I'll go and jot down all of my notes about what has been 727 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,199 working, what hasn't, like flipping back through the 728 00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:10,719 layouts on the planner, thinking about the planner as a whole. 729 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,040 Depends on what I'm using the wanton analysis for. 730 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,000 So if it's this kind of like mid year slump, it would be 731 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,800 considering the entire planner and all of the ways that I've 732 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,040 been using it and also the layouts in there. 733 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,719 So it's like the materials and the practice and the system and 734 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,480 all of the other buzzwords. But all of that stuff would end 735 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,639 up on the list. And then I just put a dot 736 00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:31,080 underneath the relevant column. So it's like, oh, hey, this is a 737 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,320 positive dot underneath W for when Oh, this is something that 738 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,440 kind of sucks or isn't working or isn't getting used dot 739 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,159 underneath A for a version. Because then if I set it up as a 740 00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:43,000 bulleted list, I can go through all of the thoughts that I've 741 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,800 had on that list and start to make decisions specifically 742 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,639 related to those specific things. 743 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,760 So it's like, oh, OK, this was a win. 744 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,320 I really liked the fact that the journal was a linen cover or a 745 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,440 faux leather or whatever. So it's like, OK, my next one, 746 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,440 maybe I want to have another one of those. 747 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,440 That's like a decision that I can make to kind of like set 748 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,680 myself up in a way that is going to be most joy filling most like 749 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,680 aligned with how I actually like my planet to be and how I like 750 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,160 to use it and whatnot. But it's really giving yourself 751 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,280 a very specific actionable things as opposed to just being 752 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,840 like slump energy, everything sucks. 753 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,880 Wah wah is made kind of a thing, because unless you're really 754 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,320 breaking the problem down, you're not going to have the 755 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,360 greatest likelihood of having decisions made that are actually 756 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,080 going to help solve your problems. 757 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,040 Yeah, I found some of my worst decisions come from my 758 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,280 impulsivity. You know, we're kind of like I 759 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,920 said, I'm doing being very mindful of it right now. 760 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,520 It's been very hard for me not just to completely abandoned my 761 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,680 my current journal and just pick up one of the other 55 a fives 762 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,040 that I literally have sitting next to me right now and just 763 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,560 starting to use it. But I think it really just comes 764 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,120 down to like, OK, why am I feeling this way? 765 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,320 Like, why am I feeling so impulsive about it? 766 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,560 And it's more about the idea I think of this having, you know, 767 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,440 in this case, because right now, like we were, we just had our 768 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,200 last episode about like junk journaling or like things we've 769 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,320 fallen into my junk journaling trend at this point right now is 770 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,240 happening inside of here because I was so excited to use it that 771 00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:12,080 I just put it inside of here. It made sense. 772 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,800 And so I'm like, oh, well, if everything's together, you know, 773 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,360 then like I'm just remembering it. 774 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,040 It's kind of this big happy family versus what I know 775 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,720 doesn't work for me, which is having multiple different 776 00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:24,120 planner notebooks and kind of things everywhere. 777 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,000 But at the same time, you know, I'm being good from a standpoint 778 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,560 of saying like, OK, I've identified why I, I feel this 779 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,680 way. It's not because the planner's 780 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,080 not working for me. It's not because the notebook's 781 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,760 not working for me. It's none of those things. 782 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,440 And I say, OK, Mark, well, let's see how you feel later. 783 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,880 So like one of the things I'm doing with my impulsivity 784 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,480 outside of notebooks and planners is that I've been 785 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,000 putting things into my shopping cart but not clicking buy now. 786 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,120 And I don't come back to that, if I even come back to it at 787 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,800 all. This has been a really important 788 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,800 thing where I will like open back up my phone and be like, 789 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,760 oh, I forgot that I had five things in my cart from cute 790 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,280 things from Japan. And I'll actually like go back 791 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,160 through them and I'll look at them and I'll say, OK, do I 792 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,560 really actually need these things right now? 793 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,040 You know, like do I need another clear stamp set? 794 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,320 I do not. I have crates. 795 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,080 It's overflowing. I was telling Jess before I got 796 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,360 started, I just sold some fountain pens because I have so 797 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,040 many fountain pens now that I actually have run out of space 798 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,280 to put fountain pens. And so my my rule is instead of 799 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,320 buying another binder to put more pens, I need to keep within 800 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,760 my space that I have. But I have on multiple different 801 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:44,200 sites right now, I have shopping carts that have fountain pens in 802 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,800 them that I really, really want, but I don't just need them them 803 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,640 right now. And so I think for me, it's kind 804 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:55,360 of this idea of, you know, it's like, OK, be impulsive in that 805 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,440 moment of like putting them in a cart to kind of fulfill that 806 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,640 little dopamine kick that I'm craving, but just kind of give 807 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,680 it a day or two and then come back and see if you actually 808 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,360 want it afterwards. And so like, that's how I kind 809 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,040 of feel with these things right now is like, by the time that I 810 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,640 get to the end of the year, you know, am I still going to be 811 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,600 excited about this? And if I am, then I'm just, oh, 812 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,320 it's going to be beautiful because it's going to be like, 813 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,520 yeah, let's get back to the A5. Let's go back to like where we 814 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,160 started because I've been in squares and B vibes for the past 815 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,520 few years. Let's give it another go and get 816 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,720 excited about it and then see what happens. 817 00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:30,280 And then, you know, six months later, let's see if I'm still as 818 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,480 excited about it after I'm in that A5 or if I'm like, oh, this 819 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,880 was a bad decision. I knew it. 820 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,800 Yeah, I definitely am not great at not giving into impulsivity, 821 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,000 though. Mine specifically happens with 822 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,400 relation to food, which is not great when you're supposedly on 823 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,320 a health journey or whatnot. It's like, you know what? 824 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,120 I really could go for fries. Instantly goes, gets fries. 825 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,880 Like, no, Jessica, why? Think about the outcomes you're 826 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,440 hoping for for yourself. But in terms of like planet 827 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:59,560 stuff, I'm usually, I'm very slow to make changes in my 828 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,640 planner. I usually slog through things 829 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,800 for a really long time, which almost just makes my slump worse 830 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,440 because it's like you're really just sitting and dwelling in 831 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,840 that like feeling. Especially if you're the kind of 832 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,400 person like me who if you set up a monthly setup or whatnot and 833 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,640 it's not working for you, you're just like, well, it's only a 834 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:18,640 month. I'm like, yeah, but that's like 835 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,360 a whole month. It's like, it's like a whole 836 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,480 like 28, seven days depending on what kind of month you're doing. 837 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,160 And for me, it's 28 days, but I find that the novelty factor and 838 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,160 like, you know, the shiny object syndrome and such, you know, can 839 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,920 definitely come into play with a lot of people in terms of their 840 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,760 planners. And you're constantly jumping on 841 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,760 new things. So you never really get a feel 842 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,160 or appreciation for the kind of like core of what works for you 843 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,120 because you're constantly chasing newness. 844 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,960 I feel like this is a separate part kind of point, but it still 845 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,000 felt necessary to say. More importantly, though, once 846 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,160 we have identified what the issues are, once we know why 847 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,800 we're in a slump, what kind of things have you done to get 848 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,800 yourself out of it? Obviously it's going to be 849 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,120 really dependent on the reason, but what kind of things have 850 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,800 worked previously for you? Yeah, so sometimes it's funny 851 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,240 when you're talking about like living in your filth a little 852 00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:10,440 bit like this idea of like you made this mess, but you're going 853 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,400 to go ahead and deal with that for X amount of time. 854 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,760 I don't know that I could do a month, but I definitely do this 855 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,840 with my weeklies where I'm like, oh, this is ugly. 856 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,280 I hate it's not working. And I'm like, well, you chose to 857 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,800 go this far, You chose to take it. 858 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,120 So you're living in this mess and you're not going to make 859 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,360 this mistake again. So like there's, there's a bit 860 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,280 of like that kind of happening in like the mess. 861 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,760 So something that I've done to get myself out of a rut is I 862 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,920 will sometimes change my approach. 863 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,480 So as I said that one time I said, you know what? 864 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:40,960 I don't like my journal right now. 865 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,680 I'm not really using it. I don't think it's right for me. 866 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,360 Let's give it a week, right? And I felt the effects of what 867 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,400 it was like not having that. So that when I was like, no, no, 868 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,200 no, I need it back. You know, I don't even think I 869 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,360 made it a full week, honestly, probably 3 days. 870 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,040 And I was like, my life is falling apart. 871 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,200 This was really helping me and you kind of get back into it. 872 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,240 The other thing is going back to the basics, like I mentioned, if 873 00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:06,800 you feel like you're overly decorated rating, you've got too 874 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,520 much stuff, too many extras, and you've fallen out with the 875 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,640 actual reason and your why, go back to the basics. 876 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:16,480 All of your stuff will still be here. 877 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,760 You know all of your little ADHD stacks you have, They're not 878 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,120 going to go anywhere. They weren't going to go 879 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,120 anywhere anyway. Let's be realistic. 880 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,800 I've got 2 right now that keep growing almost every single day. 881 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,640 But the idea is that all of your stationary stickers, stamps, all 882 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,320 of that will be here if you choose to come back. 883 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,240 But maybe you choose to bring them back slowly, you know, and 884 00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:40,240 kind of take that smaller approach and again, really find 885 00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:42,320 your why. So for me, those are kind of my 886 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,000 my two really big things. I would say the third is that, 887 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,560 you know, after you've gone through those and it's not 888 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,200 working, just giving yourself the permission to make that 889 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,640 change. Don't be impulsive about it. 890 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,920 We've talked about that's not always a good thing to do. 891 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,360 But if you're kind of wallowing in this unhappiness and you're 892 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:05,560 trying kind of the least crucial critical like decision making 893 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,160 things, then you can at least kind of pair out the things that 894 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,000 are not the problem and really find the core and the root cause 895 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,960 of what it is. And if it happens to be that 896 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,400 journal, you know, and I know again, it, it might be hard to 897 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,440 do, especially if you really commit a lot of time, money and 898 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,320 effort into that. Just, you know, sometimes 899 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,200 hitting that refresh, hitting that restart is the best thing 900 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,360 that you can possibly do. But I usually looked at it as 901 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,840 like a last ditch effort because again, I know myself. 902 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,880 So I know that starting there is not going to be the right thing 903 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,680 to do. So those are kind of be my my 904 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,080 main ways to get out of it. But how about you, Jess? 905 00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:47,920 Yeah, I think that it so depends on the reason a because one of 906 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,000 the ones that you obviously pointed out was, you know, par 907 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,360 back decoration. Whereas for me, one of the ways 908 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,040 that I previously got out of the slump was leaning more into 909 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,480 decoration. And that's because the 910 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,080 decorative style that I had started using just wasn't 911 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,160 resonating with me. It felt almost performative, but 912 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,440 not in a nice way. Like it's it's not like I was 913 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,800 making my journal too decorated. And that was kind of, you know, 914 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,920 leading me to not plan properly. It was more so the decoration 915 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,120 style that I had leaned into was just so uninspiring. 916 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,960 And I did not like the way it looked that every time I opened 917 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,920 up my planner, I'm just like, cool, this fugly thing again. 918 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,200 Great, close that back up. Let's just not do anything today 919 00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:26,520 so we don't have to write our plans down South. 920 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,480 For me, the thing that got me out of that slump was kind of 921 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,400 just taking myself back to something that felt safe, 922 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,160 approachable and enjoyable. And for me, that was actually 923 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,160 collaging, which is interesting because I still don't feel like 924 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,160 I'm actually that great at collaging. 925 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,840 But if I keep it super simple with the collage and use 926 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,480 elements that are very matchy matchy and work well together, I 927 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,080 can usually make something that just like is peace inducing. 928 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,000 It felt cup feeling making it. It looked nice when it was put 929 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,880 together. It made me love my journey 930 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,720 again. So that was very good. 931 00:43:55,040 --> 00:44:00,080 But other things that have also helped have sometimes just been 932 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,800 admitting that you need to get rid of your planner. 933 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,880 So what I do in terms of giving myself the opportunity to do 934 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,360 that without quite as many bad feelings is that I am now on a 935 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,720 quarterly notebook system as opposed to 1/2 year notebook 936 00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:16,440 system. And I know there are some people 937 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,200 out there who are on a full year notebook system. 938 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,560 And I'm like, so happy for you that you can do that. 939 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,040 But it like could not be me because I just find that I first 940 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,040 of all fill up the notebooks too fast And I don't like feeling 941 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,800 like I have to restrict myself in terms of how much I put in or 942 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,640 whatnot. But also I just love the fact 943 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,040 that I have these built in fresh starts in the year. 944 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,440 So if I find that my system isn't really working, I know 945 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,480 that my fresh start is not too far away. 946 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,080 I know that for some people, going to a quarterly system 947 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,880 feels like overkill. And especially given that so 948 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,640 many notebooks these days have like 160, a 192 or sometimes 949 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,280 like over 200 pages or whatnot, it might be way too much to fill 950 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,840 in in a three month kind of, you know, system. 951 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,760 Understandable, very fair. I'm specifically using my back 952 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,920 catalog of notebooks that only have 160 pages now or going with 953 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,440 a basics or something because of that page counts just a little 954 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,960 lower. But it does give me that 955 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,080 flexibility to change things up to, you know, lean into the 956 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,240 novel and thus sometimes the things that are more exciting 957 00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:19,760 and enjoyable and whatnot, which I guess then my third tip would 958 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,880 be do lean into the thing that is exciting you the most and 959 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,520 sparking joy. Because a lot of my slumps also 960 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,680 come from the fact that I am denying myself the ability to 961 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,040 lean into the things that feel fun or exciting or I feel more 962 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,560 motivated or drawn to in the moment. 963 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,400 It's like, no, you have to stick with the thing that you've 964 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,080 already started using and set up. 965 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,120 And I'm like, why though? Like, why? 966 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,640 If you have the ability, whether it be like, you know, time, 967 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,400 energy, financial resources, whatever else to make the change 968 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,320 and you know, the change is going to be more joy filling for 969 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,680 longer than just 5 minutes. All right, We're still not 970 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:55,960 trying to give in to impulsively. 971 00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:01,440 Mark's tip stands here, Jessica. But I do find that sometimes to 972 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,520 just re spark that kind of motivation to use my planner, 973 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,560 Get Me Out of that slump. Sometimes something completely 974 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,960 new within reason can be very helpful. 975 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,120 No, I completely agree with you. Sometimes just that early 976 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,480 planning and I think this kind of leads into our next kind of 977 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,040 topic in this, which is like, can you avoid a slump to begin 978 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,400 with? And I and for me, I don't know 979 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,040 that you can always avoid it because like we've talked about 980 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,080 so far this episode, like there are so many potential 981 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,600 contributing factors, right, that could make you be feeling 982 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,120 that way. But I do think that there is a 983 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,360 way to kind of lessen it. And I think a lot of it might 984 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,120 honestly be like doing that, that want kind of quadrant 985 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,840 analysis before you even get started in a journal, right? 986 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,720 Like we've talked about it standpoint of it not working for 987 00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:52,520 you now because of your slump, but you can also utilize the 988 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,160 tools like that before you even start in a new journal. 989 00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,120 So taking the time to say, OK, what do I want from this 990 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,440 journal? Like I have these feelings on 991 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,040 those different pieces. You know what, you know, do I 992 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,480 need from this? Like those are kind of my two 993 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,560 wants and needs. They're always my favorite, but 994 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,080 I find the wants are like this really great blue sky, but the 995 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:18,240 needs really helps me align to like, what are the, you know, 996 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,720 drop dead? Gotta have them's in this 997 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:25,440 notebook and and kind of really understanding those helps me go 998 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,640 out and look for that thing. Because when I go into a store 999 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,400 or I go into an online shop and I'm just doing a general Google 1000 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,640 search for something, I can say, OK, I mean, now you could 1001 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,880 probably put this in the ChatGPT or any of the GPTS and be like, 1002 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,160 Hey, I'm looking to start a new journal. 1003 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,800 I'm looking for these types of actually, this is a great video 1004 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,920 for for the next year's journal. I'm going to see what it finds 1005 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,480 from you later on. But this idea of like, I'm 1006 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,200 looking for these things, like I wanted to do these things. 1007 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,000 I needed to do these things, right? 1008 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,840 And I know you use W as wins, but I think about them as once. 1009 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,280 I'm just going to call that out now because it totally abandoned 1010 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,280 your original, but this idea is just that you are really 1011 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,680 understanding what you need before you make that decision. 1012 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,120 You've actually put thought versus impulse into it. 1013 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,120 And that way you can go into it feeling a lot more comfortable 1014 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,400 and maybe confident than you would just being, you know, 1015 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,880 going into a stationary shop and pulling and the pretty one off 1016 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,200 of the shelf, right? If you can pull the pretty one 1017 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,560 off the shelf and it also happens to have all the things 1018 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,480 you need, that's a total win. We love that. 1019 00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:30,120 And I think that's really kind of what is the first kind of 1020 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,680 excitement about a new journal and what gets you pumped up 1021 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,600 about it a lot of the times are those features. 1022 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:39,640 And then as you get into that journal, just being mindful of 1023 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,160 kind of those core pieces to you, right? 1024 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,840 I need it to be able to help me track my week to week. 1025 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,520 I need it to be able to help me track my projects and, you know, 1026 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,480 assure that I get things done on time because they're not getting 1027 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,640 done now. My little calendar ticklers 1028 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:59,280 aren't tickling, so I need to write it down instead, right? 1029 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,760 Creepy. That's why I keep using it 1030 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,960 because it is really creepy. But this idea that like you're 1031 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,800 really using it for what you need to and then always just 1032 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,040 kind of checking in with yourself. 1033 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,160 I really do though, just I don't want to completely abandoned 1034 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,240 what you were just talking about. 1035 00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:17,560 I love that idea of just like a quarterly planner and being able 1036 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:22,160 to like have almost a built in safety switch or exit, you know, 1037 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,520 like emergency exit if you need it. 1038 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,920 I really like that idea. But you're absolutely right. 1039 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,880 There are not many journals now that don't a, you know, have an 1040 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,800 entire year inside of them, even in blank pages now, which years 1041 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,040 ago I was dying for with Archer. And I was like, I need more 1042 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,800 pages to get me through a whole year. 1043 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,440 But now I'm like, what if it didn't have as many and it just 1044 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:45,840 kind of ended around that quarter? 1045 00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:48,640 It's a good idea. Yeah, I've been very tempted to 1046 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,720 try out their what, everyday deluxe system or whatever 1047 00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:55,280 because the little inserts that they have do have fewer pages 1048 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,440 and it's very intriguing to be, I haven't bit the bullet, 1049 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,120 haven't actually started using it, but I was tempted. 1050 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,240 But I do also find that, you know, in leaning into novelty 1051 00:50:05,240 --> 00:50:07,280 and things that are new and something that is at least 1052 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:08,880 having its moment, it's not actually new. 1053 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,160 We already talked about how it's not actually new, but junk 1054 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,600 journaling is having a moment, you know, memory keeping and 1055 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,280 such through junk journaling is also having a moment. 1056 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,120 So all of the excess space that I have in the back of my 1057 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,320 planner, that's just going to be dedicated to that. 1058 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,160 So it's kind of nice in that I know that the space is still 1059 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:27,840 going to be used. The notebook will still be used 1060 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:32,120 in full or to an extent that I'm kind of happy to call it full. 1061 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,120 There might be some blank space in there shook horror, but it's 1062 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,920 not so much that it's like, wow, you like quote wasted half a 1063 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,600 notebook. But having that kind of like 3 1064 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,240 month system, but being like, Oh yeah, OK, we set it up. 1065 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,720 We do all the plans, get all the goals done, yada, yada, work on 1066 00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:48,440 the stuff. And then having that kind of 1067 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,080 natural built in reset is really nice. 1068 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,880 And previously I had it so it was every six months and that 1069 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,240 was really good too. I think that even just having a 1070 00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:59,640 six month system can give you that natural built in reset 1071 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,200 around the periods that feel like not necessarily milestone 1072 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,560 moments outside of the new year, which kind of does feel like a 1073 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,960 milestone moment because it's, you know, pretty universally 1074 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,560 recognized for a decent chunk of people like, Oh yeah, new year, 1075 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,320 new me energy kind of a thing. It's not to say that it's true, 1076 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,760 but like, you know, we're all there celebrating or whatnot, 1077 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,160 Wahoo. But having that are those two 1078 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,200 points in the year to kind of like give you those like big 1079 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,960 rocks, Those are the points where you're like transitioning 1080 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,920 from 1/2 to the next and such. That can just be a nice 1081 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:34,400 opportunity to change things up, to lean into novelty, to adjust 1082 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,640 in such a way that it's going to work as best for you as 1083 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,400 possible. And kind of like I said, you 1084 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,280 know, you can use the want analysis for a slump. 1085 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,200 I use it for a new planner. I use it for a new month. 1086 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,960 I use it for like a new like journal lineup or whatnot 1087 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,120 because the categories are really broad. 1088 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,640 I know that you called W like you're going to call it as 1089 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,160 wants. I just think of it as anything 1090 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:53,680 that I like, anything that's working. 1091 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,880 So that's why it's W for wins. But you can still break it down 1092 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,280 in that way. Use that information to figure 1093 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,920 out a new journal or a new monthly setup or just a new 1094 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,640 collection or layout or like version of something. 1095 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,520 If you're going into it though, not having, you know, had a 1096 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,760 notebook before or had a planner before or whatnot, that doesn't 1097 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,040 mean you can't do it. It's just, you know, maybe a 1098 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,120 little bit more difficult to figure out what is a win or what 1099 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,320 works for you if you haven't had that kind of like try a 1100 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,760 experience with something, I guess not impossible, just a 1101 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,520 little bit different, a little bit trickier. 1102 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,280 Yeah, no, I hear you on that 100%. 1103 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,360 Well, Planner Pals, we would love to hear from you on this 1104 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:34,960 topic. I mean, we could be kind of 1105 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,600 broad about this one too. If you're in a current planner 1106 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,920 slump, you can certainly share kind of what's gotten you there 1107 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,040 and if you have gotten yourself out of them, I know the Planner 1108 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,120 Pals also included love, good tips and tricks in the comment 1109 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,000 section, so definitely let us know. 1110 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,480 You can drop a comment in this video if you'd like. 1111 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,080 Of course, you can always hit us up on 1112 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:57,920 ouremailplannerpalspodcast@gmail.com or over on Instagram at Planner 1113 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,320 Pals Podcast. We would love to hear from you. 1114 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,760 Definitely would because I feel like slump energy, it's always 1115 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,240 lurking, right? We all fall victim to it. 1116 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,120 So having not only the tips we've shared today, but also all 1117 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,080 the ones that you have available to you to share, we would love 1118 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:14,800 to be able to read over those and share them with the 1119 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,160 community. But as always, thanks for 1120 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:17,520 watching.