Hey there, and welcome to the Planner Pals Podcast, a podcast
hosted by two true planner pals. My name is Mark and I go by Mark
your pages. And I'm Jess or Jessie Curran
and Oh my gosh, I I don't think I'm ready to do this episode
because just take me back. I've been home for less than 24
hours and I'm already ready to like, book my flight for next
year because Go Wild was, well, I'm not going to spoil it
because we're going to talk about whether it was worth it,
but like spoilers, it was great. Yeah, this year was
exceptionally awesome. I will talk about through the
points, especially around some topics of discussion while we
were there too, around the size and it being smaller than last
year, a little bit of a different switch up on the back
end of planning Figs. But from my perspective as an
attendee this year, I actually felt like it was better than
last year, but for like a few specific reasons.
I think just one of my favorite parts of this year was our
opportunity to speak with others behind the scenes of Go Wild.
This was an opportunity that Jess and I got when we were
asked to speak this year in her own session.
We got Jess up on stage and you did amazing.
Oh. My God, thank you.
Because it didn't feel amazing at the time.
At the time it was just like, it's a panic.
Oh my God, how many words did I stumble over?
Especially when people send you the little clips and such and
you're like, Oh my gosh, do I actually sound like that?
Which you'd think I'd be used to doing the whole like videoing
and editing and such, but it just feels different when it's
in a room larger than this one. It's definitely a totally
different feeling. We talked about that a lot.
I was like, Jess, you're OK. You literally do live streams
and YouTube videos. You're like, yeah, in a room by
myself talking to a camera. But you did fantastic.
And even we're on top of that, Jess and I got to interview and
talk with people behind the scenes.
So the way that we're going to set this up, this episode is
really going to be focused on our experience as attendees of
Go Wild Indie 2025. And we're also going to be
talking and we did some interviews with some of the
volunteers from Go Wild, which last year, like I know there was
volunteers because you see them around, but this year I really
feel like I got a much better sense of how important and
integral they are to actual Go Wild.
Yeah, I very much understand that feeling because when you're
attending is what I'm gonna say is like just an attendee.
And I don't mean it in like a negative way, but when you're
not really paying attention to it, they just blend into the
background so much. And I think that really speaks
to the power of the volunteer team.
They're in the background making things run, getting things out
for us as attendees to use in the sessions and such.
And unless you're actively paying attention to them, they
just like slip out of a room, come back with a bunch of stuff
and you wouldn't even notice. My experience this year was
actually really important to have the volunteer, so we'll
kick right into it. So the fun part about this year
is that they did things a bit different where they actually
had meet and greets and I had flown in and I thought that we
were meeting and greeting at like 6:00 PM.
It turns out we were meeting and greeting at 3:30 PM on my
flight. And I'm like, Jess, I don't know
if I'm going to make it hold down the Fort.
You got this. And I arrived and I got into a
car and I got the hotel like a bat out of hell, my suitcase
running up the escalators. And thank goodness for one of
the volunteers. They were like, Mark, you're
supposed to be in the planner fair.
I was like, show me the way. And they led me to you.
And it was a wonderful greet and beating.
And I was like, Jess, I'm here. Sorry, this is a lot.
Yeah, it was exactly like that. And I wasn't really too sure
where I was supposed to be going, but the team was very
good to just kind of like, you know, guide you in the right
direction without kind of like grabbing your arm and yanking
you there. I'm very respectful about the
fact that I had no idea what I was doing.
Well, you did fantastic. You held down the Fort.
I felt like it went by so fast. I mean, I got there and there
was already a line. Like we were asked to move our
line and start to curve the line.
There are so many people already waiting to meet and greet with
you and and all of us here. And it was just it was amazing.
I don't have any other words. I was just smiling the whole
entire time. My face started to hurt after a
while. I was like, I hope my smile
doesn't start to look fake because my cheeks are failing.
What, you mean like me on this podcast?
There's no in between. There's there's Jess and then
there's Jess. There's yeah, that I I don't
have a happy balance in terms of like my attentive face versus
like my resting bitch face. It's all right.
I know that it's not that. So it works out OK.
But yeah, I mean, going right into that, I mean, I will say to
start things off not in a negative light.
It's very positive at first. But like the planner fair was
definitely totally different than last year.
I remember last year walking into that planner fair and it
just being so overwhelming. There was so many different
vendors. There was like a blow up all
balloon thing over here and there was a lights over here and
there was a llama here in Showgirls over here.
I mean, it was just like Everything Everywhere once and I
remember feeling very overwhelmed and when I watched
in the planet this time, I want to say underwhelmed, but it was
just like such a vast difference from last year to this year.
And I don't know if that was a good or a bad thing when it
comes to like the vendor fair part of it because I still feel
relatively new. I feel like after next year, I
can't say that I'm new, like I'm a veteran after this year.
But what were your thoughts on that comparing especially DC
too, because that was your first one to last year and then to
this year? Yeah, I think that it did
definitely have a different vibe to it walking in and if we're
thinking about like, you know, was it worth it kind of a thing?
We didn't have a lot of vendor stalls where you could buy
things. And honestly, I wasn't sad about
it because I don't really want to go to be like further enabled
to buy stationary, especially knowing that I'm going to get a
bunch of it just from being at the conference.
Whether it's from the sponsored tables or tablemate gifts or
swag drops or anything like that.
The suitcase is going to be under enough pressure.
I don't need to like help it along by buying a bunch of other
things also. It's one of those things like I
don't don't really see a lot of these stationary pieces in the
wild because we don't have a lot of good stationary stores where
I'm based. We don't have places like
Michaels and Hobby Lobby or like whatever they are.
I don't even know the names of them because we don't have them.
And if I knew that, I'd have even more FOMO.
So walking into the Plan Affair last year where you had the
simply gilded section and the line was going like out the door
practically because everybody just wanted some of the action
kind of a thing. I thought it was nicer to only
have maybe a couple of the larger stalls here, those ones
having a decent sized queue, but because like you mentioned,
there were less people here, any kind of queuing, so way more
chill and way more manageable. Like I do consider myself to be
an extrovert, but sometimes when you get into these larger spaces
with quite a large crowd, it can be quite overwhelming.
I didn't feel as overwhelmed this time and I'm not sure if it
was necessarily just from there being a smaller attendee list or
if it's just like I've done this rodeo before kind of a thing
because now I am a veteran and it's been my third year.
I think it might be a bit of both, honestly.
I don't know the actual numbers, but I've heard a bunch of people
talking both during Go Wild and afterwards that there was like
almost like half the amount of people this year at this venue
than there was last year in Texas.
I don't know if that number is exactly right.
I mean, it was definitely much smaller, but I agree with you.
I think that was almost for the better because of a lot of what
we'll talk about today, which is like the community of Go Wild.
I felt like I talked to a lot more people.
I felt like I had a more opportunity to talk to people.
And you're absolutely right on the queue lines being shorter
because, Oh my gosh, last year, just the registration line
alone, we were in through the hotel, outside, back inside
again, I was like, is this normal for everything?
And then this year there was, I mean, by the time I got there,
there was no line and even the lines to get in on the first day
did not feel as nuts or intense as last year, which I honestly
see is a good thing. It also just made it feel more
intimate and kind of like you said, with being able to have
more conversations with people. It also felt like those
conversations were less rushed because you didn't feel like you
had to get around to everybody. Not to say that like you have to
talk to every single person that's there or you're like
conferencing wrong or anything, but being able to just take your
time with the interactions with people a bit more in depth with
them was just a pleasant change of pace.
Again, like I kind of mentioned being the third time around,
maybe I'm just better trained, but I do think that there was a
big kind of assistive point by there being less people.
Well, I think also I saw a lot of the same people more than
once this year where last year I didn't feel that way.
I feel like unless you had like blue hair or there was something
extra exuberant about you that made you stand out, I wasn't
necessarily noticing any certain people.
But this year, like, I was seeing multiple people.
I remembered some people's names, Jess.
And you know, for me, like, that's really difficult for me
to do. But I really, really felt like I
was like I was making more friends and more connections
this year than previously, which was awesome.
I think also with it being kind of that like community aspect
and focus and such, it was actually so lovely getting to
talk to the people who were on stage just as what I'm going to
call like regular quote, quote regular community members.
To the extent where I was having an interaction with one person
who is part of a panel and I didn't realize until I was is on
the way to the airport after the event that they had been the
person on the panel. I was like, Oh my God, is that
like the same person? I did not even realize.
I'm like, oh, I met planner royalty and I didn't even know.
So let's start to talk about the volunteering because this is
something this year again, I feel like I'm experiencing go
wild for like in a totally different way.
I think the opportunity for us to talk with the volunteers is
really important, but something that we actually talked to
Jasmine about was the importance of volunteers in the team and
how they actually make Wild happened.
While like, yes, she's like the face or like the person who is
like organizing, like she's not doing it alone.
What do you love about having volunteers come in and just be a
part of this? There's so many cool things that
go on behind the scenes. You know, I think, well-being a
volunteer, I think it's just such an excellent way,
especially for those people that are introverts that might, you
know, feel a little anxious about sitting at a table with
just random people. It's kind of like this ready
made group where they can, they're they're part of it no
matter what. They're all part of the team,
you know, and they play an integral.
Role. In the production of the events,
because we really can't do any of this without them.
You know, every single thing, I mean that you see it, it's, it
has the volunteers, you know, all of their efforts and, and
it's really because how passionate they become about it
that we're able to do this. We are a volunteer run
organization in many ways, so yeah.
It's amazing. We we talked to some of them.
They were like putting together tables and chairs.
We talked to them in the, I called the conveyor belt of
station areas. They got the bags together.
So it was so cool to see that. You kind of can think of it as
like the volunteers, like the unsung heroes almost.
And I know that when people get up on stage and such, whether
they're like, you know, the presenters or the kind of MC for
any of the events, they do shout out the volunteers.
But unless you actually get to go backstage and see the kind of
mayhem that's going on, I don't, I think you could like
necessarily appreciate how much work they're doing and it's
volunteer work. Like, you know, they're also
here to enjoy the conference and be part of it and all of that
kind of stuff. But they're also doing a whole
bunch of extra work that we don't necessarily get to see and
appreciate unless you get this kind of behind the scenes access
or it's called out by the people who go on stage.
I know we've talked about it a couple of times already, but
being able to go backstage this year and see all of that, like
kind of first hand was really exciting for me.
Also just like trying to go in there and be like, hey, can I
talk to you guys? Please don't let me interrupt
because you've obviously got really important things to do.
But everybody was so nice and very accommodating of us, like
putting a camera in their face and talking to them.
No, they did a good job. So we asked them a few
questions. So Jess and I split duties
during Go Wild because, you know, we're partners in crime
and that's how we do that. So I got to ask them a few
questions upfront and the first time we had to have fun with,
you know, you got to break the ice when you're interrupting
somebody during the putting things together, which if you're
watching this on YouTube or the video podcast, you'll see people
actually doing things as we're talking to them.
You can't stop. So the first question I asked
them is what is their current favorite planner product?
I would say just any of the stickers because I like to, I
like to be very creative with, especially with my, my planning
and my budgeting with the, the various journals that I've kind
of gotten over the years, you know, with my wife's influence
of being at some of the planning conventions here.
So I am this year using a just scribble.
I'm loving that layout. So I'm I'm trying to see it.
That's my. Piece I like that I like that it
won't be your planner piece we none of.
Us. No, no, we switched that too
much. My favorite planner product is
stickers. It's a big sticker group.
Mainly because I don't have time to really write down what I'm
doing, but I do have time to like pull out the sticker and
put it there and then it just saves things for later.
I'm going to have to say my pens, OK?
I really like the gel pen. OK.
Any certain brand that you're in love with right now?
Zebra, you know who's doing his thing?
You're well. It makes me happy.
I love it. So I am obsessed with, well,
Benici cousin Good. Choice.
Good choice. I have an unhealthy amount of
washi. All of us, right?
No, it's really an. Oh, it's really about.
I love how straight faced you are too.
You're like, no, no, I have a problem.
It's a problem think. Probably my pens.
We're having interest. Serasa right now.
Yeah, that's a good one. The mark on ones are we doing
with like the other like colored ones, like the vintage colors,
have you tried those? No hardest question so far,
everyone's answered. What is your current favorite
plan or product? I blame you, Mark.
Fountain pen. Yes, I.
Am now. Obsessed and have spent way too
much money on fountain. Pens, but I love them.
They're gently on the wrist so my longer writing sessions don't
hurt, and I love that. So I'm falling down the rabbit
hole with those pet tapes and I love it.
They're beautiful and they're they're different.
They I mean. It's like a cross between
stickers and washi tape. I like stickers.
Big sticker. Yeah.
Big sticker Grill. Awesome.
Stickers will forever. Be one of my.
Favorite planner products, even if my daughter's try to steal my
stickers all the time. They end up in like the inside
window of your car and you're like, where did you get that
one? That was expensive.
They've been surprisingly good about that, but I've also been
managing to get just little things here and there, like I
got a Dino pen for my 7 year old from the PIP 6 bag.
She'll be so excited. As somebody who doesn't, I don't
know, use stickers as often as others, I mean, I'm getting
there. I'm using stickers a little bit
more liberally, but I still have major sticker anxiety.
It was still nice to hear that there is such a love and
appreciation for stickers out there.
But of course, that was just an icebreaker question.
We had to get into the hard hitting stuff.
So we also wanted to know from them why they decided to be a
volunteer. For me, it's kind of giving back
because this community helped me a lot with my mental Wellness
and so it was something. That I went to when I was like.
In dark places. So I feel like this is a good
way of getting back to the community.
I am not a Outfront type of person.
I love the bat and I love to be able to help and see everybody's
face when they see all the magic stuff.
You're like the behind the scenes at Disney when they see
the characters and you get like so happy.
They're like, look how happy they are.
I did that I did deal with that right.
So this is my first Go Wild and my first time volunteering.
So I figured this is my a new way for me to experience Go
wild. So this is my first year
volunteering for Go Wild, but I love volunteering for
conferences in general just because you get to make new
friends, meet new people, and then you feel like part of your
heart and soul goes into this and into everybody having a good
time. So tell us a little bit about
why you decided to volunteer and what you like about it so far.
I just wanted to see what the behind the scenes was of Go Wow
because I seen on social media how it is and wanted to
participate. I like volunteering because I
like helping and like getting stuff done.
Makes me really happy and helping other people.
Like if I know the answer to a question that they need to go
somewhere or whatever, I like to be the one that's open to answer
that. I like the camaraderie really.
I mean, it's, it's fun to, you know, just be part of something
that's really just bigger than me.
So this is my first year volunteering and attending.
Oh fantastic. So I figured this was the
easiest way to meet people. My favorite part about
volunteering at Go Wild is just doing all the things.
So like talking with everybody is definitely fun, but being
engaged in the action, like behind the scene action and
everything that goes into it, I. I love it.
I feel very productive and especially like how our friend
John said, like you get to build camaraderie with other people,
especially new people, and so like you're engaging in similar
tasks and helping each other out.
So it goes a little bit beyond of just the normal, typical go
wild experience. What?
Do you like so far about being a volunteer for Go Wild?
It's a lot of fun. I was coming to this alone.
I don't have any planner friends in my area.
I'm making some but so I it's kind of the same thing A couple
people have said now is that. It was it was a way to force
myself to kind of meet people and talk to people and just have
fun. It was so heartwarming to hear
them answer the way that they did because you can tell that
it's super genuine. Even the people who was their
very first year, I loved that they talked about making friends
as volunteers, that some of them are very introverted or they
weren't really knowing anything too much about Go Wild or the
community as they saw this as a fantastic way to get involved.
And that was probably just one of my favorite parts.
Or, you know, they're sitting there talking like I made a
friend and I didn't think I was going to or I wasn't sure.
And like, this is really awesome.
And I and I got that same feeling this year out in the
crowd and like at our tables too.
Like there's something magical. I don't know what it was.
No, I, I loved the hearing, especially from the introverted
people, right? Because as we kind of touched
on, it can be overwhelming when there are so many people there.
And even though we had a smaller attendee list for this year, it
can still be overwhelming if you're going for your first time
or by yourself or something. So we had a couple of volunteers
who said that they were coming by themselves.
It was a really good opportunity for them to not only help and
give back because that's lovely, but just being the person who
knows the answers. So it's like easier, I suppose,
to have those interactions with people without feeling like you
have to go and barge into people's conversations or
shoulder tap and be like, hey, can I be your friend or
anything? They're just going to come up to
you because they already have questions.
And it gives you an opportunity to like kick off a volley kind
of a thing. And there's some veterans to
have been here for years. Like I felt like it's like when
you go to like Home Home Depot, it's like I've worked here for
eight years. Like I feel like some of them
have pins that they're just keeping on their lanyards that
they replace every year. And it shows how much of A go
Wild veteran they are. And they're so helpful.
And even some of them too, like I remember a few of them from
last year. They remembered me, they
remembered us. They were just like, it's just
it feels so good, especially when you're nervous going
backstage right before you go up for someone to be like, you're
gonna do great and be your cheerleader.
That isn't, you know, your planner pal partner.
That's you like Jess. Breathe.
Here's a bag to hyperventilate in.
We go on in two. Yeah, I just appreciated there
was one part there where we were standing backstage.
I'm like, Nope, can't do it. I'm going for a walk and you're
like, OK, bye. Just like doing laps behind the
stage. You have to do that.
I mean, I have like a jumping thing that I do that just helps
me get out, like all the nerves. And I'm sure everyone looks at
me, but I was just like, I'm already a ball of energy.
So it has to expel somewhere because as soon as I get up on
stage, it like comes rushing back at you, but in a different
way because then you're just, you're just there.
And you and I did a really good job the night before, got a
choreographing a little bit, but then as soon as we got up on
stage like that, all went out the door.
Literally, it's like we wrote out all of these notes and I'm
like, I think I looked at them once and that was when you were
speaking so that I would know when you were done and when I
was supposed to like queue in or whatever.
But Oh dear. Well, you did great.
I mean, I think the biggest thing that I've gotten out of it
as well kind of post is the feedback that we got instantly
afterwards. And we'll again talk a lot more
about like our session specifically and others in the
follow up episode to this. But again, that community part
of it was great. And one of my favorite things
and you and I talked about this. We were like, I think we're
doing a good thing here is people were like your chemistry
is awesome. Like how did this happen?
And getting to like share the story of how we were just
Instagram bullet journal friends that have turned into planner
pals that Co host this amazing podcast that has this growing
incredible community within itself.
Like it just overjoice me. No, I really like to see the
kind of overlap between the Go Wild community and the Planner
Pals community. Like, obviously not everybody
who goes to Go Wild is a planner pal.
But by being there and being there, like as the podcast, it
gave us more of an opportunity to like make new planner pal
friends and bring them into our circle.
Like you can sit with us. No, it was really cool.
Some of my favorite conversations though, were the
ones where they were like your fountain pen episode is my
absolute favorite and you pen abled me and I bought 4 or 5
fountain pen and I still always just laugh at that one because I
think of all the episodes, that's the one that you're least
like about because you're like, I mean, I have one but like I'm
not as enthusiastic as y'all. Yeah, this is just mox.
Time to monologue and I'll just sit there and be like, Oh yeah,
nibs. It's it's really amazing.
So thanks to all of the planner pals that are new or if you've
been OGS from the very beginning and you were there.
I just wanted to say thank you because it really made me feel
good. I mean, I still feel like we're
a newer podcast because we're a little over a year and a half
now at this point. Like we were looking back on
videos because you posted your vlog from last Go Wild while we
were at Go Wild I think. Yep, The one that said like, Oh
yeah, we're like 6 episodes in right now when we were like real
baby baby. And then I have to remember like
that's 12 weeks though, because we do one every two weeks.
So you were already like 1/4 of a year old at that point, but it
still felt very new and fresh. It still feels very new and
fresh. I mean, heck, we got on to
record today. We're like, how do we intro
this? Like what do we say?
We are professionals. We are professionals.
Of course, the volunteers who are sitting at the tables with
us and like going backstage and grabbing swag bits and such.
There's only kind of like one type of volunteer we have for
this event because we also have all of the amazing sponsors who
bring us all of this awesome stuff to play around with.
One of those being the table sponsors or the people who on
the first day they've like decked out one of the tables
that sits 10 people with a whole bunch of swag and goodies and
awesome bits. And I think they're getting to
see that set up process. That was really fun because when
you get there on the first day and you know, you go into the
room and such, you see all of the amazingness.
It can be first of all kind of overwhelming.
It's like, Oh my gosh, where am I gonna sit?
And 2nd, it can kind of take like a backseat in terms of like
who put this together? Like who was the one who came up
with the concept and like got all of these goodies for us and
laid them all out and such. So getting to see them do that
process, that was really cool. I.
Mean the other part was definitely us talking to them
because similar to the volunteers, these are businesses
that are sponsoring these tables.
Not only that, but they are loading them up with different
and there are bigger companies that are there, like Zebra was
there again this year. It's always fantastic to see
them. They had their tables filled
with stuff. Archer and Olive had their
table, which was stunning. Everything about that table.
I wanted to sit there. Jazz, I don't know about you,
but I wanted to sit there. But I was like, I already have
all of this stuff. It was literally that I'm just
like, Oh my God, it's so beautiful.
I could totally sit there and like, the thing for me is that
when I sit at a table, I want to know that I'm going to get, if
we're thinking about is it worth it?
I'm going to get value out of it.
It's going to be stuff that I'm actually actually going to use
kind of a thing. So I'm kind of looking at the
tables thing about like, you know, would I use these items?
How would I use these items? Some kind of thing.
But given the fact that I have so many alternative products at
this stage, which I love, don't get me wrong.
I'm just like, we don't need more Jessica.
And you, you can get the ones that you don't have if you
really, really need to. But my favorite people to talk
to though, like you kind of mentioned, were those small
businesses, the ones who were possibly even there for their
first time ago, wild, both as attendees and table sponsors.
Those people like really just stepped up and decked out the
tables in some of the most awesome and creative ways.
I know we had like Danielle or Constance.
I love her vibe. It's so bright and so fun.
Daisy Chain Rebellion as well. I loved the pieces that they put
together with a little kind of like tiered box.
In my mind, I call it a Snackle box.
I know it's not a Snackle box. Is it a tackle box?
I don't know. It has tears.
I had a bunch of stickers and the designs were so stinking
cute. So that was really cool to say
to. Yeah, I think technically it's
like a kit in Caboodle is what it's kind of have known for.
I mean, when we were younger, like you would put like all your
makeup or your sticker things inside of there.
I mean, you could use it a tackle box if you wanted to.
But they shared a lot with us actually about their vibe and
like what they were going for. So like, let's not talk for
them. Let's have them explain it
themselves. Hi.
My name is Jeanette, this is my sister Melissa, and we own Daisy
Chain Rebellion, A planter sticker company.
This table is amazing, first of all, and I know you're only just
setting it up, which is amazing. So tell us a little bit about
what you all love so much, I guess about stickers and like,
do you have a certain aesthetic or are you just like, what's
inspiring you all right now? I love all things cute, but I
also like all things quirky. I like for our stickers to
actually be playful. I want to recapture a little bit
of what I loved about stickers in the 1st place when I was a
kid. Yeah, we grew up.
We were both born in the 70s, grew up in the 80s.
We love everything 80s. We love retro, the caboodles,
yeah, So we wanted to kind of bring that.
You're never too old to love stickers.
So you all have a lot of really cool stuff on here, but I want
to ask you about your sponsorship right.
So this is is this the first year y'all are sponsoring your
table? It is OK.
Awesome. So tell us a little bit about
what went into your thought for this theme.
So we actually go wild, actually reached out to US 29 days ago.
We were like, oh, we'll go to go wild next year.
But they reached out and were like, Oh yes, we have to do it.
So we just went out shopping and looking at and she saw some puff
balls and she's like, you know, could we incorporate like these
puff balls, maybe lay them on the table.
And then it became our whole theme as puff balls.
So it started off as a joke. We're joking back and forth, but
we can do a puff ball this and a puff ball that.
We thought, well, you know what? Why shouldn't our thing just be
puff balls? We're having so much fun with
it. Maybe everyone else will also.
Oh they definitely will. I I didn't I noticed the one on
top of this piece but now I'm seeing some more over there.
This is maybe. Yeah, we have little puff ball
wands for people to wave. We tried to make things
interactive, so we've got some bracelet making stations.
Well, if nothing else. The two of us especially.
When we get together imagination, we run out of time
before we run out of ideas. Those two sisters were my
favorite. I mean, just talking to them and
having them share stories about them being younger and then
watching them start a new business, like it was so cool.
They were actually the sweetest and I just loved hearing the
story behind how they designed the table because I know that
obviously this kind of planning goes into it, but it's not
something I kind of actively focus on.
In my mind. It's like, Oh yeah, they come
with the swag bits and they lay them out in some aesthetically
pleasing way. But hearing those stories behind
how they selected the elements and what was going to go on the
table, that was really cool to hear too.
Another person I was really excited to check in with is
someone I consider to be a Go Wild OG and hearing the story
behind her table was really cool too.
I'm Kristen Christian Designs. This year is special because
we're celebrating our 15 year anniversary.
More than half of our team is actually Mexican, so we are
celebrating our quinceanera. Oh, I love that.
I asked my husband to come up with the theme this year because
I feel like every year I've come up with like, it's like a
template. It's like everything is the same
and I kind of wanted something different.
So I let him basically decide it all.
And then he told me what he wanted and I turned it into our
table. So I'm really excited about it
because it's something totally different that we've never done
before, and I just can't wait for people to see it.
My name is Damien Kristen's husband.
And like she said, a lot of our crew is Hispanic.
OK, you know, there's a lot of different cultures here.
So and it is our 15th year anniversary so we figured us
through a quinceanera. I love it.
Quinceanera is kind of more like a wedding style, okay.
So I wanted to do more of like Hispanic kind of culture, okay,
but also quinceanera, but also not quinceanera.
So it's more of a 15 year Fiesta.
OK, I love that. So tell us.
So we got like candy over here. We got some stickers like what's
your favorite snack that's at this table?
Yeah, there's some coconut or Mexican flags, OK, that are my
favorite. And then and.
The Duvalines are probably my second best.
Those look like jungaroos. Is that basic?
Is that? What they are pretty much,
except they don't come with a stick.
It was also cool just to say that both for Daisy Chain
Rebellion and Chrissy and Designs, it's very much like a
family affair. So we have the sisters working
together and then the whole Chrissy Ann Designs family out
there setting up the tables together.
And also nice that for all of our sticker lovers, they were
very well taken care of in terms of sponsored tables.
We can't talk about stickers without having a sticker party,
so talking with Erica too. As someone who was creating and
sponsoring a table herself, hers was really awesome as well.
Yeah, hers was awesome enough that I like had to sit at her
table because it had a denim pencil bag.
I'm like, I need that pencil bag.
Hello planner pals, my name is Erica.
I am the owner and designer behind the sticker party.
I am based in Canada so Canadian business.
At Go Wild I do primarily stickers which I do hand draw
most of them myself. What else?
I do a lot of stuff. I did Go Wild merch this year.
I do a lot of stuff in like the bookish and reading kind of
niche. Tell us a little about what you
love so much about Go Wild. What I love about Go Wild is by
far the community. I think everyone fits in here,
everyone is loved and there's just so many friends and I
always feel like my most confident self here.
Tell us about your theme for this year.
Honestly, I don't have much of A theme.
I do a lot of like I did advent calendars last year.
I did Go Wild merch. Like I said, I have my sticker
subscription, so a lot of it is just like extra products from
that, which, yeah, if you're ever expanding your line outside
of stickers, this is a great way to like show it off.
I just loved Erica's whole vibe and I said I like had to sit at
her table because I love that pencil bag.
But hers was very much like a contender against Danielle or
Constance's table because I loved the bright colors and I
thought that the ducks were so Dang cute.
So it was good that we also got to check in with her and chat
about her table. So let's start off introduce
yourself to the planner pals. OK, so my name's Danielle, but
my shop's name's Constance. That's a long story, but yeah,
I've been in the planer community since 2019, so.
Amazing. Well the table looks amazing.
I know y'all are still setting up.
Tell us a little bit about your theme for this year for
sponsoring. OK so my theme is based off of
actually my original character. She's called Love Zombie and her
colors are like teal, pink and blue and I just like bright
colors so I wanted to go off that.
So we tried to match almost everything.
It looks amazing. I'm partially color deficient,
but I can tell from the shading that it looks amazing.
Now I can see color. Don't know all of them.
Tell us a little bit about you love so much about Go Wild.
OK, so for me it was like, you're online and you see all
these people, right? But when you're together, it's
so different. I honestly feel like, OK, I
don't want to tear up, but I my first go wild was in DC and I
like feel like I came alive because there were people who
got it. You know what I mean?
Like we all like the same things and everyone here is nice.
So that's the plus. I don't know, I just it's like
fam almost in a way. I mean, I'll be honest with you,
I think hers was probably one of my favorites just because of how
it was decorated. Like all of it, the ducks, the
lights, the everything, Like she had it all going on.
But like, that's what it's all about.
I didn't get to sit at like a over the top table like hers
was, but I did get to sit at the editing table.
Have you heard about editing before?
Because now that I've talked about it more, everyone like
that's in like Germany or like Europe is like, yeah, they're
like our Sharpie. But have you heard about them
before? Go wild.
I don't know, I feel like it's one of those things where they
sound super, super familiar. But if you had to said adding to
me, I wouldn't necessarily have picked pen brand.
Yeah, I'm not going to lie to you either, because I was just
like, I don't know, but it made a lot of sense.
I mean, I sat at that table and I made the decision that even
though I have a lot of pens that I didn't have their pens.
And actually before I even sat at that table in the
Planterford, they had a table set up and they were showing
these amazing glitter brush pens that they have and these
metallic ones. And I was just like, these are
so cool. I actually bought a pack of the
metallic ones because I was like, these are neat.
And then when I sat at their table, they had a box and in
that box was metallic brush pens plus so many amazing kits of
stuff. It was it was incredible
included. So so this has been my favorite
thing in the entire world that I got from go wild because it
looks like a marker and it's a pencil holder.
And my favorite part, just you think, I don't know if you were
there when I was talking to them, like as they were cleaning
up, but I was, they were like, Oh, we noticed you had our
pencil holder up on stage with Zebra mild miners inside of it.
I was like, is it sacrilegious to do that?
Like I'm not sponsored by you yet.
Yeah, No, I think that as somebody who has a lot of pens
as well, I intentionally didn't sit at a pen table.
But that kind of comes back to the question of like, you know,
is it worth it for me sitting at a pen table knowing that I have
my sets of pens that I like and I use and I trust and I don't
really need anymore but also don't really want anymore.
Sitting at a table that didn't have pens makes a lot of sense
for me. And that is a choice that I made
to make it so that my experience was worth it.
Sitting at the table like the sticker party as someone who
doesn't necessarily use a lot of functional stickers or really
just wanted that pencil bag. And now I have the pencil bag
and I'm like, so happy I kept like pretty much everything that
was on that table. Like there was designated to me.
I didn't go stealing other people's things before anybody
calls me out for that. But making sure that you're
sitting at a table where the stuff that you're being provided
with or given aligns with how you are as a planner, I think is
kind of important. Because the first year that I
went to go wild, I just kind of plonked myself down at the first
table. I could see that had space and I
kept a pair of tweezers. That was the entire thing that I
kept from the entire table. That wasn't really worth it.
It was also, no, it had a bunch of like stamping related stuff
and it's someone who doesn't really stamp or at least wasn't
really into stamping at that point in time.
It was not necessarily my finest choice of the hour, but I do
love those tweezers. They're excellent tweezers.
Like quality wise not comparable but.
I remember last year I had to swap somebody for for the stamps
that were on their table because I did not sit at their table.
But I didn't also don't know about the importance of like
choosing a table last year. Like I knew it was the thing
that people did, but like, there's a strategy to it.
And I agree with you. Like making it worth it is
really important. You don't always just want to go
for like the biggest, most crazy and exuberant table you could.
But like Zebra always is piled up like it's like Christmas
morning on their tables, I feel like.
But when you already have mildliner collections, they
aren't creating any more colors. There's not a whole lot of like
new things you can really get. Like even this year there was a
handful of mild liners inside of some of the packs and freebies
and drops and stuff. And not that I don't love them,
but I already have like I don't even know of triple kits as a
word, but I have triples of a lot of those colors.
Like I was giving them the friends at work or telling my
wife to take them to school with her to let other people have
them as well. But like I don't have adding
pens and markers and fine liners and brush pens and metallic pens
was cool. Also just to like discover a new
brand as well and get to experience like what that was.
And it's also cool. And I know you can definitely
attest to this too. When those sponsors are there
and they come to your table and they're talking to you and like
getting to know you, they're a business, but you also realize
that they are a real person, right?
And I think that is a really important part of like those,
those table sponsors and getting to know them as well.
Yeah, I think that that makes it such, such like a special gift.
It's almost kind of like if you got a book that was like a
signed copy from the author kind of thing, Like if you went to
like a book signing and they signed it and like put your name
on it and such. And when you're sitting at the
table and you get to see all the stuff like that, that in itself
is an exciting experience. And that's going to be like no
part of your ticket price, like you're worth it kind of a thing.
But then being able to see the person who made the magic happen
for the, you know, tables where people who set them up were the
people who supplied the goods. And we're also at the conference
because that isn't for everybody.
Like I know we had a couple of sponsored tables there where the
people who were sponsoring the table had kind of like shipped
their things in and had like one of the volunteers set them up
and such. Which again, volunteers coming
in clutch. Because otherwise it's like you
sit down at the table and nothing's been set up and it's
like, here's a box from FedEx, unpack your stuff kind of a
thing. But it just adds to the
experience and kind of like highlights the value that isn't
just like exchange of money for goods kind of a thing.
Because at the end of the day, if you want a bunch of swag and
you only want pieces that are going to be things that you're
actually going to use and they fit your vibe and your aesthetic
and all of that kind of thing, you could take your ticket price
and go out and buy that stuff and probably be very happy.
But you're going to miss out on all of those opportunities to
connect with the other people who are there and get to have
conversations with people who are just enthusiastic and like
the same kind of things that you like.
And don't look at you weird when you get like anxious about
putting a sticker onto paper because that means that the
stick is gone now and you're never going to be able to use
that again. And then like, what if in three
years time, the perfect opportunity comes up for that
sticker, but you place the sticker now you don't have the
sticker. Like they're not going to look
at you like you're kind of loco because they get it.
No, you're 100%. I do have a question for you
mentioned about the importance of that signed copy book.
Do you think Bailey, the person who I got my book from the book
swap, who did sign a lot of my book, do you think that they
were there? I I don't know man, but Bailey,
we have some choice. OK?
Mark loves his book. Mark is so happy.
I was like, Bailey, what gives? This is not a gift.
To give a little behind this seed, so a part of the crop this
year, which happens on Friday night, there was a book swap.
And so you had to pick a book and wrap it and you would write
the theme or kind of the genre of the book and then the first
line of the book. Then you put it on a table and
they divvied people up and you went and picked up your book and
then you did stuff kind of around that with the rest of the
crop. I got Lord of the Flies, which I
was excited for because I've actually never read that.
But Bailey had read that book extensively, Highlighted pages,
notes all around the margins. A very well loved book.
They did all the work for me. I don't even know if I have to
read the book, Jess. Like it's all done and.
Mark's like I'm really happy with this and I'm like, I'm glad
you are because I'm not in my mind.
I was like the book swap is like it's another type of gift kind
of a thing. So I was thinking like, you
know, second hand book totally fine, like if it's good quality
still, you know, in good nick hasn't been graffitied.
All of these like annotated notes, which it's kind of silly
to say that because the session that we were literally doing at
the crop was book annotation. But I'm like, look at you
stealing Mark Thunder. Now he can't go and do his own
book annotations because it's got all yours in there.
I had some things that I was feeling I was, I was in my
fields. I'm trying not to let it bother
me. Yeah, when we talk about that
book annotating session, though, it gave me such anxiety because
it's one thing to annotate, there's another thing to draw
with markers over top of your page.
I will leave it as that. I don't want to ruin everything
for the next episode where we talk more in detail, but there
is. I needed a Xanax because that
was stressing me out. Whereas I'm sitting here just
like, oh, I love this. This is so great.
This could be a really fun creative project for you and
your friends. And then other people are
sitting there like, why would you do that?
You're defacing the book. I'm like, be nice to the nice
lady. She came out here to show us to
creative talents. I'm all for it.
Yeah, she was amazing. I absolutely love talking to her
and now getting to know her after that session too and
seeing what else she's doing online was really awesome.
But all of the defacing of the books aside, it was really cool.
So just at your tables having those conversations and being
able to and then, you know, working on the crop and
listening to the rest of people talk about what's going on and
like have these opportunities with the product.
So it was really awesome. At the end of the day, like I
said, I think that a lot of what you get out of it and just
mentioned it before is like if you're just there for the
products, you could easily buy them twice and three times over
with the price of your flight in your hotel and like the cost of
the ticket. But you really are paying for
the community just as much as you are like the free swag stuff
that you get to. I think there's no denying that
whatsoever. And like I said, this year, I do
honestly, truly feel like I got so much more of that than I had
previously. This has been one of the most
like cup filling activities that I have done for myself in a
really long time because you hear so much about people, you
know, coming to the conference and such and talking about the
community aspect and all of that.
Oftentimes when people say the same thing over and over again,
my personal Rebel brain kicks in.
It's like, Oh yeah, whatever. It's a conspiracy.
Like they've all like talked to each other and they're just
trying to feed me some BS kind of a thing.
And so Rebel Brain had to kind of like check herself a little
bit this time because I came away from the conference just
being like, actually they're right.
Like the community aspect of this and getting to have those
interactions was so positively impactful that I would totally
recommend this experience to anybody who feels like they want
to go and find their planet people. 100% there's multiple
people who said you're finding your tribe and your people.
This was similar to me with my full time job and design
operations. I felt like a solo person at
work because I was very interested in this topic and I
was the only one kind of doing it.
And then I went to a design OPS conference and you're surrounded
by like minded people talking and sharing about the same
things. And you do you come back like
energy. And that's exactly how I feel in
this context too. I think we kind of talked, well,
I think you've talked about kind of being like a little bit of
like a slump a few weeks ago, right in our episode when I came
back from my personal vacation. And then I knew that Go Wild was
happening. I had this like zone where I was
just like, I'm not feeling very motivated to do anything.
I wasn't motivated to create content.
I wasn't motivated to create any YouTube videos.
Like the only thing I really look forward to honestly was
recording episodes of the podcast because it is different.
But coming back from Go Wild though, you'll be proud of me.
I already recorded 2 YouTube videos.
I already worked on a bunch of reels.
I'm like back in planner mode. I've got a bunch of stuff set
up. Like it's just exactly what I
feel like. I needed to do that.
And it wasn't so much just from the speakers and the talks.
It was just from talking about planning with other people and
like how they do it and what they're doing.
That got me as excited. Yeah, I would very much agree.
I was really standing in the shower thinking about it today.
My shower's leaking. So it that's its own kind of
like can of worms and terms of the life problem.
And I was thinking about the idea of taking time for yourself
and taking, you know, vacation days and all of these kind of
things and thinking about like, when's my next vacation?
What am I doing for that? And like, how do I kind of
capture that cup filling aspect of it?
So it actually feels like restful.
And I was thinking about the previous go wild to have had and
whether I kind of came away feeling the same.
And I feel like this one has been the best in terms of making
me feel more renewed and rejuvenated and re excited and
like re motivated to do things. All the race, all of them re re
all up in this. But I was thinking about like
some people to get their cup filled or like, you know, to
take care of themselves or whatnot.
They want to take themselves off to like a tropical island and
sip my tires at the beach or whatever.
It's not going to be me. I don't like sand.
That's another issue. But I think that for me, it's
very much that social connection because I don't have that in my
job. Like we, we get to hang out and
we get to chat and I get to like, you know, talk to people
in the comments and such like that.
But there's a lot of magic being in the room where it happens,
like getting to meet face to face and feeling that energy of
being in a space with other people, which I don't have in
any other aspect of my life really.
And even John Green kind of talked about this idea of these
hybrid type societies or groups where this is an exact kind of
example of that, where we share things online, but we also have
this ability to have a physical space to meet and talk and
create, especially with Go Wild. And I thought that was a really
awesome connection and it made a lot of sense because it's
exactly what I feel like Go Wild.
It's like a coming together of the minds in a physical space,
which is cool. Yeah, I know that after my first
go wild experience and thinking about like the monetary cost of
that, ignoring the fact that I tacked on AUS holiday with it.
But like just thinking about like, you know, the ticket and
the hotel and the flights and all of that just to get there.
Because when you live at the ass end of the world, those things
certainly add up. And I was the way I kind of
pitched it to Vogel. I was like, this is going to be
a one time thing. Like I, I probably won't do this
again. So I really just want to go and
experience it because I'd seen it online while I had been a
teacher and it was like smack bang in the middle of term one
for me every single times. I'm like, yeah, there's no way
we're going to be able to do that because you have to like
take time off and then not get paid for that, but then also pay
for everything new. But I literally went into it
expecting it just to be a one time thing.
And now it's like a no, no, no, no.
This is the annual pilgrimage. We are going to make it happen
regardless of what we need to do.
If I need to go get down and sell my body to the night,
probably won't do that. But like anything before that,
like maybe I'll start taking feet pics.
Nobody wants to see it, but maybe they do.
Or you can start a Patreon. Well, I hate.
These ideas if I just want. Dinner.
You can up your ad revenue on YouTube.
Put mid roll ads Never. There are many more options than
selling your feet and becoming a woman of the night to go to go
wild. I'm just throwing that out
there. You probably have a point.
I'm not ready to hear it yet though.
Well, one thing we wanted to also do, she was obviously
spending time with Jasmine. I mean, we caught her right
before the pajama jammer. Is that how you say I can?
I can't ever talk. You stuff this up every time.
I'm like, you're, you've been two years in a row now, Mr. And
I know you didn't go to plan Jammer the first time.
That's no excuse. Talking to her, I was like, oh,
pajama job, jobs coming up. She was like.
And she looked at him like, yeah, buddy, good job you tried.
She's like, I'm exhausted. I don't even know what you're
saying right now. Sure, but we did spend some time
with Jasmine and talk to her even more about what Go Wild
means to her and the community and like the importance of that.
This city is amazing. We've been walking around and
checking stuff, but it was a good spot to be.
You know, it just happened. It was just pure luck that we
ended up here. It wasn't the original
intention. As you know, Jeanette, our
founder, has ALS, and so we wanted to be as close to her as
possible. She lives about two hours away.
OK. And so yeah, that was the the
reason for this location, but it ended up working out
beautifully. One of the biggest things that
we've talked about with everyone here, what they've told us is
about the Go Wild community. I know that's been such a
pivotal, important part of it, but I'm curious what it means to
you. We've been a part of these since
the beginning. This is a big one from, you
know, running things this year and making things happen and
some of these curious for you, like what is the coolest part
from your perspective about this community?
You know, it really is just watching everybody interact with
each other, watching the friendships that form.
I've been very, very blessed myself personally in that my the
majority of my friend group like day-to-day friend group homes
from the wild community. I didn't know them before.
So cool. To this day, I still have
friends that I met from the very first one that, you know, a
couple of them are from my city that we had no idea we lived in
the same city. And our friends, our, our kids
became friends. And, you know, we spent
holidays, we traveled together. We, you know, outside of Go
Wild, you know, and it's, it's so much more than what happens
at Go Wild. It's what happens after Go Wild,
like how those friendships continue.
And I think for me, that's, that's the best part of, you
know, seeing everyone. And that's what I want everyone
to do. Yeah, and the people that are
sitting and meeting each other. Someone said earlier, what I
loved someone about it is that you can be sitting at a table
with strangers and a lot of the times, especially in the planner
community, tend to be somewhat introvert.
We've got our crazy ones like me and MO and others that are out
there having fun all the time, right?
That you can be sitting at a table and just introduce
yourself and then suddenly you're talking about the
planners that you like your favorite pens or products or
techniques and things like that. It's been great.
We there's so many different events that go on from the
opening night. The the pajama jam party plan,
plan jam, right? Plan jam.
Plan Jam. Is there a certain event that
goes on during Go Wild that you look most forward to?
All of the events are absolutely amazing.
But I think for me, it's the moment that I see people start
starting to arrive, like even before the events start and they
start running into their friends.
I mean, because it happens for me.
And so I see that in other people they're like, there's,
there's this group of three ladies and I absolutely adore.
I mean, we'll talk sometimes. We very rarely talk, but because
I'm horrible at social media, but we'll chat a little bit and
but we see each other and it's like we're old friends and I
seen all of that as people start coming in to me.
That is my absolute favorite part.
Yeah, it is the, the hotel lobbies are this like beautiful
space that just started to bring people together.
You're seeing I think gets you excited.
We're creating these communities online.
Like you said, it goes past what's happening in person, but
but like the keynote speaker talked about today, like this
community transcends the media or where it is, it's in person,
it's hybrid. It's there's so many different
ways to experience it, which I think is fantastic, which is
also what makes it really special.
And like you said, those friendships go well beyond this.
And, you know, this year, Jess and I, you know, being able to
go up on stage and talk together and do that in person and have
people be like, I watch you on the Internet, you know?
I don't know if you noticed, but this year I really placed an
emphasis on those community members and that reflected on
who we had on stage where they maybe weren't necessarily people
that had thousands or hundreds of thousands of followers, but
they still connected with people that were in the audience
because it's they know them, you know, and being able to engage
with them in person, I think was is huge.
It's it's amazing. Now, I know tonight you said
you're giving a big announcement for everyone.
Yes, we know that this is going to come out a little bit
afterwards. So everyone that was here is
going to find this out soon. But for everyone who will be
watching afterwards that wasn't able to attend this year, are
you OK with sharing your special news?
Yes, absolutely. So next year, 2026 is our 10th
year since our very first event. We, our first event was in New
Orleans in 2016. And so in 2026 we're going back
to New Orleans. We're going back year 10.
So we're super excited. We're going to have so much fun.
And, you know, we get a couple of weeks off and then it's time
to get back into it, you know, start planning.
It's insane to think that it's AI mean that's how long these
things take to get together. But so much props to you and to
your team and everyone else. And again, thank you so much for
continuing to put this on. I know every single person is
going to have an amazing time. They're going to start screaming
when they find out that special news.
Yeah, yeah. I'm so excited.
I can't wait. And I just, I do really want to
add that none of this, I could not have done any of this
without the team that I have. You know, they are absolutely
amazing. They, you know, being able to
have people that I can rely on that, you know, can just take
things, you know, that they're so talented in so many different
ways and I just feel so lucky to have.
Them with getting to do the behind the Saints interviews and
all of that kind of thing, like getting to talk to the speakers
and the volunteers and then Jasmine, I think my favorite
moment from those was actually just getting to hear about her
favorite go wild moment. That just felt really special
because oftentimes when you think about like a favorite
moment, you're thinking like, oh, you know, who was your
favorite session or like coming in on the first day and like
getting to get to the swag tables and all of those kind of
things. That's the stuff that we often
hear about from other people. It's like getting to be into the
room or like, you know, connecting and such.
But having her talk about before anything even happens and just
when people are coming in like the day before, that felt really
special. That was really nice to hear
from her. No, it absolutely was.
And she's amazing. I know, like I told her over and
over again how amazing she is, but she just kept reiterating
this is not just me. This is a team of people.
These are the volunteers. These are the people who are
coming to go wild that make it what it is.
I mean, anybody could put together, maybe not anybody, it
takes a special person, but put together a conference.
But that doesn't mean that people are going to come.
Oh, wait a second, Jess. She did tell people about when
the next one is going to be right?
Yeah, yeah, that was kind of a big deal.
Yeah, so we got to hear it a little bit before everybody else
did. But she did announce that next
year they're going to be taking it back to the first one, which
is in New Orleans. So that's where next year is
going to be. So it was cool to get like a
little sneak peek in on that, But that people are already
posting online, like, see you in New Orleans.
Like there's no thought. They don't even care who is
going to be there. They just know, like some of
their friends are going to be there and there'll be some type
of planning conversations and speakers, fun in a Pajama JAMA
Jam party. Like they know these things are
going to be there. It just becomes a part of what
it is. So that alone, I think speaks
volumes around how people find value in it.
Like, is it actually worth it? Like when you literally find out
where it's going to be next year and you're basically booking
your trips and taking off from work, you know it's good.
Oh, yeah, I already started looking up ticket prices, like
we don't even know what month that's going to happen.
And I was just like, Oh yeah, we'll just do some ballpark
amounts, like what it'll be in March.
What would it be in June kind of a thing?
Yeah, I need to start selling fig picks and becoming a man of
the night just to pay for my ticket next year, so.
I don't know why, but when you said you're going to be a man of
the night, I instantly went to Batman.
I'm like, how is it the Man of the Night gets Batman and Women
of the Night gets Selene from Moulin Rouge?
Oh my gosh. Well I mean if I have to become
a masked vigilante to raise money, I will steal from the
robbers and the bad villains to be able to go to go wild next
year. I'll take that.
I will also sell my body if necessary.
I appreciate your dedication to the because I'm going to be
there. Like I don't know how much it's
going to cost yet. I don't know when it's going to
be, but I'm going to be there. Well, next episode we're going
to go in even deeper as we talk more about the speakers.
Not only do we get to share our thoughts on the topics that were
discussed and we'll be sharing about that, but we also had the
opportunity once they came off stage, which was a very good
change on your part just to have them after they were relaxed,
but asking them questions about what they love about the
community and what they wanted people to take away from their
talks as well. Because as we know, not every
single person was going to be able to go, and Jess and I
wanted to be able to give our planner pals a little Nuggets of
information that everybody had to pay a lot of money for.
Of course, as always, we do want to hear from you, planner pal.
If you went to go wild this year, what was your kind of
like, favorite part about it, whether that be community aspect
or swag? Totally fine.
All options are welcome. And if you didn't get to come
along, do you think you ever would?
And what would incentivize you to?
Let us know either in the comments or you can e-mail us at
plannerpalspodcast@gmail.com or hit us up over on Instagram at
Planet House Podcast. Well, it was an amazing episode,
Jess. It was super fun to talk about
that and for us to get to go behind the scenes.
And I do have to say Jess, I know I got sappy in the group
chat kind of afterwards, but how amazing it is to be able to see
friends that you talk to online all the time.
Like the amount of times we had to explain to people how we time
out when we actually can record was crazy.
But to not only see you in person, I feel like that happens
every year now, but to be up on stage and get to be the actual
person to person Co worker that you don't get to be with other
people. And even with us and YouTube and
everything else it was it was amazing.
So thank you for being open to doing that with me because it
was made an extra also. Yeah, thank you for being my
what? Emotional support planner pal up
on stage. It's like people who have like
their Snuggie or whatever. Not to say that you're like a
sad blanket that people have toted around for like the better
part of 20 years of their life, but.
I may talk to some of my friends, they might say
different things. I I appreciate you mentioning
your quote sappy message in the group chat because what was not
seen was then once we got back to our hotel rooms from the plan
jammer event, I was like, oh, this is a good time to call
Vogel. And the first thing I did on the
phone was like breakdown into tears being like, my friends are
all leaving tomorrow and I don't even get to see them anymore and
I'm not going to see them for another year and I'm
heartbroken. So like you did fine.
You actually just used nice words and stuff and I was a
blobbering mess. I.
Know well I didn't get to see that I don't know if I want to
see Jess cry. I feel like I'm so used to the
happy Jess and go lucky Jess like to be like she.
He has emotions. I did not know this.
Sorry automaton, Jess got let out and she's off doing other
things. So you got like highly
emotionally charged Jess instead.
Well, I won't let Jess say goodbye because clearly she has
a problem with that. We don't want to get emotional.
So, planner pals, we'll talk to you next time.
Have a great one.