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Welcome to the Planner Pals 
Podcast, a podcast hosted by two

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true planner pals. 
My name is Mark and I go by Mark

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Your pages. 
And I'm Jess or Jessie Curran, 

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and in today's episode, we're 
talking about things that we 

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just kind of regret bringing 
into our planner and stationary 

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stashes, things that maybe 
didn't get used as much as we 

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would have hoped. 
They were things that didn't 

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work out as the, you know, way 
that we kind of wanted them to. 

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They're not necessarily all bad 
products. 

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I need to be careful because my 
fingers like really sore, but 

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they're not bad AD products, but
they are things that we just 

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don't really find that we're 
using as much as would be ideal 

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given the fact that we purchased
these things. 

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Jess, I feel really bad your 
poor little rabbit fingers are 

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not doing their job today. 
It's so sad. 

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Yeah, no, I I had a run in with 
a knife in a not so fun way, so.

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Oh well. 
I'm just thankful you didn't 

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share the photo with me because 
I would have not ended up well. 

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Gosh, I wasn't doing well. 
I was kind of like, you know, 

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all righty, Oh, it's fine. 
It's all good. 

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Nothing's happening. 
And then it starts to, you know,

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build the Nope, Nope, Nope. 
Like need to sit down, deep 

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breathing kind of thing. 
So yeah, don't need to show 

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anybody on the Internet that 
we've just got our friend and 

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little guy here. 
His name is JT, which stands for

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Just the Tip. 
Risky, Barry, I was gonna say, 

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well, maybe JT can make a few 
appearances when we give you 

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close up to the things that 
we're talking about today that 

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didn't quite workout. 
And thanks for giving that 

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little preface to the 
conversation here today because 

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I had a really hard time because
a lot of these things I really 

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love. 
It's just that I don't really 

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use them and part of me 
definitely regrets purchase seen

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them or as many of them as I 
have. 

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That's probably the other 
problem that I have. 

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I don't regret all of the 
purchases, just how many in some

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cases. 
Yeah, when you have, I don't 

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know, anybody can relate, you 
let us know. 

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I have a tendency to, once I get
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like a Pokémon got to catch them
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So it's like, oh, you got 1 of 
this, like, you know, particular

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brand of pen, so we need to go 
get all of the pens from that 

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collection. 
You got 1 of this type of 

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notebook. 
Now you feel like you need to 

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get all of them, even though 
it's like you're not necessarily

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trying to fill out the 
collection completely. 

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But I am a bit of a 
completionist when it comes to 

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those things and it can be just 
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That's exactly it. 
You hit the nail on the head. 

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I have a completionist nature to
me as well, and it's just like, 

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I see, I was like, I need to 
have these things. 

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So let's go ahead and kick into 
some of these because it'll just

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roll right into all the 
completionist tendencies that we

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have. 
Jess, why don't you kick us off 

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with one of the first things you
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So my probably one of the 
biggest regrets and I don't do 

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it so much anymore. 
So that's like, I know maybe a 

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slight win is buying notebooks 
without a kind of purpose for 

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what they're going to be used 
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I'm not so much thinking about 
my current addiction to Archer 

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and Olive and 160 GSM ones 
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problem, but it's a problem I'm 
happy to have. 

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What I'm also thinking about is 
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journalling and planning and I 
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need a journal for this and a 
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to have this one and that one. 
But I didn't do any kind of 

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testing or trial runs as to how 
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So like I started a language 
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2 pages. 
I started a travel journal and 

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kept it for maybe 3 or 4 trips 
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really how I like to do my 
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So I ended up buying these 
notebooks that only ended up 

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very kind of like small amounts 
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And because they're not the type
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know, my 160 GSM with like none 
of the bleeding and all of that 

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kind of thing. 
I have them in my stash still 

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because I still reference them 
in videos but I just wish they 

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had gotten used more and they 
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more if I had more of it. 
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to how they were going to get 
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I don't have as many of those 
previous because I was very it's

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the right word. 
Frugal is that the right word 

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where you're like don't want to 
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whereas frugal mean the 
opposite, where you buy you 

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don't care. 
I think frugal means that you're

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not gonna spend the money. 
OK, if that's if I'm using that 

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word correctly, then that was me
early on. 

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I remember when I bought my very
first Lloystrom 1917 and I was 

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freaking out because it was like
a $20 notebook and I was just 

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freaking out like, Oh my gosh, 
I'm spending all this money on a

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notebook. 
So early on I didn't have that 

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problem because I was so nervous
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But now do I spend way too much 
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them? 
It's a it's very different than 

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seven years ago. 
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I think there's like even though
the kind of, you know, problem 

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area or my consideration of the 
problem area is, you know, the 

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way back when, the days of 
yesteryear 2017 kind of a thing.

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I think it's just because the 
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because I'm, you know, at that 
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seventeens as well, but they're 
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anymore. 
So I still have them in my 

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stash, but I know that they 
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they're not going to get used, 
but currently they are not being

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used. 
I use a lot of mine, honestly, 

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for the R&D journals we talk 
about when I'm just kind of 

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figuring out some ideas or 
sketching some things out. 

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They're kind of my go to and 
then I just skip a whole extra 

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page because I don't like the 
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And we talked about that in 
previous episodes about 

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especially when you're putting 
things out on the Internet, 

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Internet around notebooks, you 
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those other pages in there. 
And I don't feel bad about it 

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like I used to because I have so
many other notebooks now I feel 

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like. 
No that that's very fair. 

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I don't mind using them for 
scribbling notes but I've been 

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because I've been taking into 
the using the kokuyo like spiral

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bound the soft ring or whatever.
Maybe I should, once those ones 

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are done, just pull out some of 
the LT19 seventeens and use them

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for that, because then at least 
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Yeah, I love a solution. 
It works out well. 

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Well, it actually helps out 
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about this, I'll take mine just 
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what I was going to go in 
because it's actually perfectly 

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pairs with it because I have a 
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This is from president, correct?
And it's called an archive 

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diary. 
So this is something that I saw 

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on their website and when I 
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is the coolest damn notebook. 
I actually have another one that

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has a top left corner spiral 
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So it's like a vertical notepad 
doc grid paper. 

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Love it, but it's just not 
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and this it's almost just like 
one big calendar like there's no

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real purpose behind it honestly.
And as we were talking, I was 

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like, oh, you know what I could 
do with something like this like

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maybe I could use this for my 
advent calendar for the ink one 

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that I bought because that'll be
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But then I'll still have a 
notebook that has I don't even 

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know how many other pages inside
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another idea for it. 
But but this is one of those 

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that I regret. 
This is kind of what I'm talking

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about now essentially is that 
now that I'm not as frugal about

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it or I'm, I'm just more open to
trying new things that I get 

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excited by new stationary. 
It's actually the story of 

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everything I'll be talking about
today is my excitement around 

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just different types of fun 
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This was definitely one of them 
where I thought, oh, I could 

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definitely use this for 
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I'm just not quite sure exactly 
just yet. 

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I mean, as a folder in the front
cover and everything, like it's 

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essentially a project notebook I
feel like, which would be pretty

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cool. 
There are some blank pages and 

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some calendar pages. 
I just really have no idea like 

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what I would actually do with 
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So this is one of my regrets. 
Love president. 

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Correct. 
I love their different type of 

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like cool old school notebooks. 
Just kind of regret buying it 

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because I have two of them 
because I couldn't just buy one 

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and they just sit on my shelf 
and look pretty. 

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That's not how it gets you, 
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Like you just like I'm sure I 
could find A use for it. 

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I could find something to use 
for this like because it's nice 

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or because it's interesting or 
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And then you bring it into your 
stash and then you never really 

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get around to finding A use for 
it or figuring out what 

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specifically it will be used 
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It's like, cool, cool. 
Now I just have an overabundance

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of things. 
Before we move on to our next 

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item, I'm curious if you ever 
buy stuff like this though, for 

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the sake of it being a shelf 
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Because I have something, it's 
actually a notepad that's made 

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out of napkins. 
And I've had it for over 15 

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years because the whole idea in 
the design space and anywhere 

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really, right, You're writing 
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Ideas come to anywhere. 
So I bought it for myself and I 

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really, honestly bought it just 
to sit on my shelf. 

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And it does sit on my shelf and 
it has been clearly displayed in

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the plastic packaging for all of
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I will never use it to write on.
It's dumb to do that. 

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But have you ever bought any 
like notebooks or any kind of 

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stuff or stationary even where 
you strictly buy just because 

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you know it's going to sit on 
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Despite calling them shelf 
trophies, usually when I 

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purchase a notebook then the 
intention is not just to have it

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sit on the shelf like they get 
displayed. 

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They get put on the shelf so 
that they can look nice, look 

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pretty. 
Makes my office feel like a 

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special place to be in. 
But I know I'm going to use them

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at some point. 
Might just take me a while. 

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I have been finding more 
recently that with like the full

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cover notebooks, in particular, 
the ones that are absolutely 

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gorgeous, those ones have been 
the ones I've been kind of like 

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leaning towards in terms of 
picking them up for my everyday 

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journal use. 
So like for instance, my 

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everyday journal for this year, 
like both of them, because they 

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were two, the first one was a 
full cover design. 

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It was like the foliage one with
the square notebook. 

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Oh my God, so beautiful. 
And then the second one was the 

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wanderlust. 
So it's like, yes, those ones, 

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well, one of them at least was 
displayed on the shelf and was 

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kind of like a shelf trophy, but
it was then very promptly used 

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for an actual notebook that I 
was using on a daily basis. 

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So although they are kind of 
like looking pretty lined up, 

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looking nice and I do not 
necessarily buying them for the 

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intention for them to be there, 
but I know that that's where 

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they're going to be stored until
I use them, if that kind of 

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makes sense. 
Totally make sense. 

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I've been doing that with like 
behind me trying to find 

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notebooks and the covers and 
things like that that I like 

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that make it look interesting 
back there. 

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Of course, a lot of the 
Halloween ones that are behind 

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me look so cool and especially 
like Archer and Olive and other 

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brands that have started to add 
more decoration and like really 

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focus on their packaging. 
It just looks so cool. 

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I love putting them back there 
now. 

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So it's definitely like a select
curated notebook list of things 

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that are back there. 
I will eventually use them. 

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I know that I have them. 
I have catalogued them. 

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It's just they look kind of cool
for right now and that's where 

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they will be because I'm 
actually running out of space 

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for the other one. 
Yeah, fair. 

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I was thinking about it. 
I don't think there's probably 

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one that is a shelf trophy. 
Like, I know that I'm most 

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likely not going to use it, but 
when I purchased it, the 

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intention wasn't for it to be a 
shelf trophy. 

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When I purchased it, I was 
actually planning on making it 

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my reading journal because I 
thought, you know, the reading 

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journal you're probably going to
keep for a while because you 

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don't read very much. 
It'll take a while to fill up 

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and stuff. 
And it would be nice to have 

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something that looked pretty and
looked special. 

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And then the notebook arrived 
and I swear, like, you know, 

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talking about planner regrets, I
don't necessarily regret buying 

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it because I wouldn't have known
if I didn't buy it. 

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But the notebook from the Quirky
Cup Collective is the one of the

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biggest disappointments in a 
notebook I have ever had. 

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And that's not to say it's a bad
notebook. 

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All right, It might be for you. 
It might be the kind of thing 

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that you vibe with, but there 
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that notebook that do not work 
for me. 

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For instance, it has like the 
sharp edges rather than rounded 

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edges. 
I didn't know that about myself 

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until I got the notebook in my 
hands. 

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It was like, oh, this feels very
aggressive. 

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But the most annoying part is 
probably the fact that the dot 

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grid isn't consistently 5mm like
I think it's 5mm, not even 

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between the dots and the dots 
are quite large. 

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So it means that all of the 
measurements that I, you know, 

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know, like and trust have been 
completely thrown off if I was 

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going to be using that notebook.
So that one is a shelf trophy, 

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but it wasn't the intention when
I bought it. 

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Makes total sense. 
All right, Jess, what do we got 

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going on next? 
We talked about notebooks. 

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I mean, I have more notebooks to
talk about, but that I saved for

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the end because we've got some 
numbers to throw out. 

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What's your next item that you 
absolutely regret purchasing 

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all? 
Right. 

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He's stepping away from 
notebooks. 

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I think that one would be any 
kind of glue tape roller that 

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just was ineffective. 
And it's one of those things 

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that you don't necessarily know 
until you open up the packaging 

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and then you try and use it and 
the tape is busted or it doesn't

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lay down nicely or anything like
that. 

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But life is too short to 
struggle through an ineffective 

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glue tape roller. 
Oh my gosh. 

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Like the entire purpose of 
buying the glue tape roller is 

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for convenience and quickness, 
and it just makes setups easier.

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So if it doesn't roll nicely or 
if the glue doesn't actually lay

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down properly, or maybe the glue
is like colour in a way that 

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means that you can't really use 
it unless with like specific 

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materials and stuff like that. 
The worst, and this isn't even 

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necessarily like cheap glue tape
rollers because oftentimes the 

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ones that are like, you know, 
cost effective once you get on 

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like stationary power and 
whatever, they're actually 

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really handy. 
They're usually like smaller and

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then travel size and you can 
take them with you and stick in 

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pieces of ephemera into your 
journal, like whatever. 

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But the ones that got to me and 
they just did not do what I 

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needed them to do, that is a 
bigger regret. 

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Yeah, these type of things. 
I know what you're talking about

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here. 
I have maybe one or two. 

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I think people told me a while 
back, like bark, why are you 

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using glue sticks? 
An actual like tacky liquid 

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glue? 
Have you ever heard of a tape 

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roller? 
And I was like, no, I've never 

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heard of a tape roller. 
So I bought 1. 

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I think it's from Tombow 
actually. 

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And I know what you mean. 
It's like when you roll it 

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across your page and either the 
stickiness doesn't actually make

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it onto the surface or the thing
I hate the most about those is 

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when that little piece of 
cellophane kind of gets wound up

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and they're weird. 
And then you're in there with 

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like a little paper clip or 
something trying to rewind it. 

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I never know which way it is. 
I just feel like I'm wasting it 

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honestly. 
Yeah, I found that the Tombo 

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ones that I've used previously 
have worked fairly well. 

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I haven't had any that were like
a real big problem, but there 

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are some brands in particular 
and then ones that are like, I'm

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going to say New Zealand 
natives. 

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So most people probably don't 
have them. 

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I think it's called like Unity 
or something like that with the 

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I and Y are switched. 
I don't know, it's like it's an 

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OK brand. 
It's supposed to be kind of like

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a white label ish, cheap ish 
brand. 

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But when you get anything to New
Zealand, everything is actually 

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kind of expensive, so it isn't 
that cheap. 

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I would rather go and buy the 
cheap ones on stationary power 

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that are from brands that I know
like and Trust and will actually

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work. 
I hear you on that. 

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What would be your next 
regretful purchase? 

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So it's very much in line with 
these sticker tapes, the Deco 

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Rush tapes, they're exactly kind
of what we're talking about when

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it comes to these different 
types of sticky tapes. 

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It's just, I love them because 
they're very similar, except 

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they have a pattern on them. 
Instead of it being clear with a

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double stick tape, it just has a
little pattern on it. 

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So this one's like a house and 
this one is a book. 

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And for whatever reason, in my 
head, and I have literally 

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probably 8 to 10 of them now and
they sit on my desk. 

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I rarely ever use them and they 
just I sit here and I think, oh,

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like this is a little light bulb
1. 

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And I'm like, oh, you know, 
anytime I have a good idea, I'm 

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going to take this out and I'm 
going to put it into my 

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notebook. 
But the thing that I'm coming up

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with more and more, and we 
talked about this in our 

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previous episode as well, is I'm
just not the type of planner 

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that is actively planning adding
things to my journal while I'm 

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writing inside of it. 
I am a person who sets up my 

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journal, uses my stationary and 
stickers and stuff like this and

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like a setup, but I rarely will 
pick up a stamp or pick up one 

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of these Deco Rush tapes and add
it to my journal as I'm doing 

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other things. 
I don't know why I'm like that. 

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I'm just not. 
And so I think for that reason, 

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it becomes really difficult for 
me to remember to use them. 

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I literally sit them right in 
front of my face as I'm working 

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with the intention to grab them 
and use them so I can be useful 

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about it. 
So I think it's more about the 

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lines that I bought too many of 
them thinking like, oh, I like 

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the way this little icon looks. 
I'm going to use that. 

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I should have just maybe bought 
one or two and just use them 

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until they were gone. 
But again, like I need boxes for

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when I'm dealing with packages 
and I need a little coffee cup. 

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What I'm feeling like I want 
some coffee or write a little 

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coffee theme or, you know, a 
light bulb when I have an idea. 

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So I need all the different 
icons, but I just also don't 

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need this many Deco Rush tapes. 
I think that's a really good 

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point about like, you know, 
considering how you are as a 

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planner, how how your kind of 
like style is, I suppose, you 

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know, are you the kind of person
who sets everything up at once? 

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You know, does all of the 
decorative elements and all of 

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that at the start of the week or
start of the month or whatever. 

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And then for the rest of your 
time in those layouts, you're 

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just filling things in with your
regular everyday pen, everyday 

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writing, that kind of stuff. 
Or are you the kind of person 

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who likes to do those little 
bits of decoration as you go, 

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because those kind of things are
going to have some kind of sway 

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over which pieces of stationary 
you're more likely to use? 

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I think that's a cool 
consideration. 

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Yeah, it's the same thing with a
lot of my stamps and stuff like 

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that. 
Like I have a large collection 

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of stamps, both wood block 
stamps and clear stamps. 

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I have the little letters, I 
have little icons. 

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I have it all. 
It's just to think about while 

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I'm planning and doing 
something, be like, oh, let me 

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grab this little tiny stamp. 
Oh, because I thought of XY or Z

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and put it on the page to do 
that. 

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I feel that's more along the 
lines of like the traveler 

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notebook type individuals that 
use stuff like that or maybe use

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it for memory keeping or kind of
doing these daily log long form 

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type things. 
You know, like it's almost like 

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you're creating like a visual 
diary of your day. 

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I think that maybe if I did 
stuff like that with like 

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ephemera and stuff like that we 
were just talking about, maybe 

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it would make more sense. 
But right now it's just like I 

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have to remember to use it while
I'm setting up my notebook or my

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page or my weekly. 
Otherwise they are just they're 

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just sitting there. 
Talking about ephemera, I didn't

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even write this on my list 
because I didn't think of it. 

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You know how hard it was to 
actually think of things. 

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I regret buying because I just. 
I'm usually quite mindful with 

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my purchases. 
I don't bring things into my 

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stash and my space unless I 
think I'm going to use them. 

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But we still have a list to go 
through. 

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But ephemera is definitely one 
that I like. 

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I feel like regret is too strong
a word, but I just know it's 

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going to take me such a long 
time to use some of those pieces

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up, especially when doing like 
my reading journal setups and 

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stuff. 
For like this year and last 

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year, I went with very kind of 
like brown, beige, neutral 

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tones. 
And I have accumulated a lot of 

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brown and beige and that is like
pretty much the only space I use

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it in. 
And for my reading journal next,

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yeah, I'm no longer going with 
that kind of color palette or at

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least not through the entire the
journal like I have been. 

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So I'm not too sure when those 
things are going to get used up.

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And it's always this kind of 
like worry that's like, oh, but 

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things are going to go off 
quote, quote off. 

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I'm not saying that they're like
actually going to go mouldy or 

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anything like that, but it's 
more like, you know, tapes lose 

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their stick ability, stickers 
lose their stick ability or they

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don't come off the backing paper
nicely anymore. 

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Papers just start to get a 
little bit new, especially if 

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you're in a human environment 
like I am. 

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So use your stuff. 
You make a good point. 

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A lot of the stuff I have like 
that to have collected. 

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I'm a really big fan of Eric 
small things. 

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I think she's probably hands 
down one of my favorite creators

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out there. 
And I have so much of her stuff.

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I actually had to hold myself 
back from putting too much of 

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that in here because it would 
have looked like a hate fest. 

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When in fact, I love her and her
designs so much because every 

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single time I see something of 
hers, I I just it's in my body 

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and brain. 
I have to get it. 

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Like I literally was just on 
cute things from Japan's website

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the other day because she just 
released more stuff and I put it

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all on my cart and I was like, 
do you really need this Mark? 

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Are you just like a fanatic 
about it? 

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But I do have the same thing. 
These little paper pull off 

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pieces. 
It's ephemera essentially. 

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And it's like little tiny note 
cards that I was like, Oh yeah, 

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like I'll use that. 
I'll paste that into my bullet 

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journal or whatever. 
But it's just so much because 

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again, I couldn't just buy the 
one pack. 

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There was two different colors 
with two different designs of 

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them, and I felt like I had to 
have it. 

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And so those sit inside of 
literally a box of ephemera that

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I've organized for myself that I
rarely ever go into. 

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So it's just I have to remind 
myself constantly just use it 

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more. 
But again, I have to think about

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it as a fit kind of the theme 
I'm going for for that week or 

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honestly just something I've 
chosen and say like, OK, this is

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what we're doing this week. 
So it gets a little difficult. 

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Yeah, it's kind of hard, like 
you want to follow kind of like 

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your current joy, the current 
vibes that you're going with. 

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Or is it like a, OK, I'm going 
to intentionally use my stash 

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and go and use these items that 
I collected at a different time 

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with a different vibe? 
I think that's also with Archer 

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and Olive for their Halloween 
collection stuff. 

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I do that every single year. 
I was like, I need this right 

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now in my life. 
Absolutely. 

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And then you get it and you're 
like, yeah. 

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And then Halloween's over. 
And unless you have a certain 

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type of notebook or a theme or 
something you're going with 

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that, you can still keep that 
kind of spooky Halloween kind of

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dark vibe with a lot of that 
doesn't get used again. 

446
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,280
And especially with the 
notebooks, I'm just like, oh, I 

447
00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,080
want that blood moon, that red 
blood moon notebook, right? 

448
00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,360
I have to have it. 
And I get it, I love it, but 

449
00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:36,160
like, when am I going to use 
that next? 

450
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,040
You know, I'm just like, well, 
will that be my next bullet 

451
00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,800
journal? 
But I had all these other ones 

452
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,440
lined up. 
But then it's going to feel 

453
00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,920
weird if it's like January and 
I'm pulling out a Blood Moon 

454
00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,640
notebook or stickers or 
something to work with their 

455
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,520
washi tape. 
So it does get a little 

456
00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,320
difficult with that too, because
you're just like in the moment 

457
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,160
you need it or it's kind of your
theme or your vibe, like you 

458
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,800
said. 
But then it's a passing thing, 

459
00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,560
because now a new shiny thing is
coming to my life. 

460
00:20:00,360 --> 00:20:03,920
Yeah, you just need to have like
a full year of like Spooktacular

461
00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:06,960
everything. 
Just do a running theme of like 

462
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,480
every Halloween esque item I've 
ever had ever. 

463
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,600
Because I think about that in 
terms of Christmas tapes, 

464
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,640
because I do have a fair few 
Christmas tapes. 

465
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,080
I also have a lot of Halloween 
tapes, but those ones don't seem

466
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,720
to bother me as much. 
I'm like, yeah, I could pull out

467
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,680
a Halloween tape in April and 
just be like vibes, why not? 

468
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,560
But I don't really want to pull 
out anything with a Santa hat on

469
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,320
it. 
So what would be your next 

470
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,520
purchasing regret? 
So it's the only thing that I 

471
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,880
included that does have Eric 
Small Things on it. 

472
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:35,000
So I think my biggest regret, I 
love it, but it's a regret is 

473
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,840
the year day by day calendar 
from Eric Small Things. 

474
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,160
It's a cute little one that sits
on my desk. 

475
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,240
I'm almost done with it. 
I don't know if you're on 

476
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,360
YouTube, you can see it. 
You can actually see the staples

477
00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:46,160
coming out from it now because 
we're so close. 

478
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,960
But the problem with this is 
that I did use it. 

479
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,720
So I'm not going to say that I 
cannot throw away all of them. 

480
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:58,240
So I literally have an envelope 
filled with 11 months of each of

481
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,240
the individual pages because 
Jess, I'm going to cut them out 

482
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,360
somehow. 
I'm going to punch them out 

483
00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:06,920
somehow and I will use these 
inside of my bullet journal. 

484
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,960
I cannot throw them away. 
And therefore this is like a 

485
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,920
regret because it has caused me 
to hoard even more stuff that I 

486
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,440
may not even use again. 
It's like ephemera again. 

487
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,480
I don't. 
I mean, I have ideas. 

488
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,040
I've done a few spreads with 
them. 

489
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,240
I've run them through my Sizzix 
little die cutter. 

490
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:30,000
I've pasted them into my stuff. 
But like, do did I need this? 

491
00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:32,800
Especially when I have a 
calendar on my watch, on my 

492
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,200
computer, in my bullet journal, 
You know what I'm saying? 

493
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,480
So it's a regret just because 
it's caused more collection, not

494
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,400
because I don't absolutely love 
Eric Small Things. 

495
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,400
No, I'm literally that way 
inclined as well. 

496
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,920
Like, at least it's something 
cute. 

497
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,000
At least it's like some kind of 
design element to it. 

498
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,720
My current stash is just like 
every tiny off cut of paper from

499
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,000
anytime I make stickers for my 
journal because, you know, I 

500
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,320
print out little book covers for
my reading journal and whatever 

501
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,280
and there's always a little bit 
of extra space leftover. 

502
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,240
But because the paper cost 
money, I think the stick of 

503
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,880
paper, I'm like, no, we must 
save every off cut of this stick

504
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,160
of paper. 
I'm like, why? 

505
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,440
I don't make this many mistakes 
in my journal. 

506
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,960
Like I make mistakes, but not 
this many, not, not this many 

507
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,800
mistakes. 
I don't need quite as much. 

508
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,400
So I have, I'm so proud of 
myself and it's taken me a lot 

509
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,160
and I still kind of trip up 
sometimes, but I have started 

510
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,280
putting them in the bin. 
Thank you, thank you. 

511
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,640
Yes, crown it. 
I, I I deserve an award. 

512
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,120
That's really, I mean, it's 
definitely hit that point. 

513
00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:32,400
I used to do it with like all 
the wrapping papers and little 

514
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,760
like ribbons and stuff that I 
used to get from different 

515
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,960
people that would send it. 
And I did get to the point where

516
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,040
the only thing I say is Eric 
Small Things. 

517
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,600
Like I can't help it. 
Cute thing from Japan wraps all 

518
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,320
of their stuff in Eric Small 
things wrapping paper. 

519
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,520
And I'm such an obsessed fan 
that I can't throw away the 

520
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,800
literal packaging tissue of a 
thing because it has on it. 

521
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,600
Because I'm like, I'll use that 
for something. 

522
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,040
I was literally the same. 
I got AI kind of remember. 

523
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,720
It must have been like notebook 
therapy or something because I 

524
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,360
don't know if it's them. 
So you know at me if I'm wrong, 

525
00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:06,760
but they wrapped their notebook 
in vellum instead of just 

526
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,320
regular paper. 
So I kept that vellum piece for 

527
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,440
the longest time. 
Finally throw it out. 

528
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,680
But it's this kind of thing, 
right? 

529
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,600
Like we keep these things 
because they're like, oh, I feel

530
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,960
guilty throwing them away or 
like it's cute and I want to use

531
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,520
it at some point or whatever and
stuff. 

532
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,480
If you actually got rid of it 
and it's not just cute, like if 

533
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,320
one, if one actually got rid of 
it, you would feel a little bit 

534
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,840
of regret maybe for the 1st 5 
minutes like, oh, it was cute. 

535
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,640
I totally could have figured 
something out for it. 

536
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,560
But in five days time, you won't
even remember. 

537
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,480
And if you do, it won't feel as 
painful. 

538
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,960
It's only painful in the here 
and now. 

539
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,640
So like we can get rid of the 
things. 

540
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,320
I think that the part that makes
it really hard for me is when 

541
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,680
you want to get rid of something
or like you don't necessarily 

542
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,800
want to get rid of it, but you 
feel like you should, but you 

543
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,200
want to get rid of something 
that feels like it still has 

544
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,040
very good value. 
It's like, oh, I paid a lot of 

545
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,720
money for this. 
I could still sell it like it's 

546
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,480
not used or anything like this. 
And oftentimes in those cases, I

547
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,760
make what's called my very 
fondly called my fuck it bucket.

548
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,920
And that effectively just gets 
all of the stationary items that

549
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,360
are either so lightly used that 
I wouldn't mind giving it to 

550
00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:09,120
somebody else or they're like 
not even touched at all. 

551
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,520
And next time my friends come 
over, I go like, hey guys, do 

552
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,040
you want anything from the 
stash? 

553
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,360
Like you can have any of these 
tapes. 

554
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,440
It's like going to the dentist 
office where you get to pick out

555
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,680
like a sticker or a toothbrush. 
When you're done, go to Jess's 

556
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,960
house and you get to pick from 
her stationary box. 

557
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,360
That actually sounds like a 
really good way to invite people

558
00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:28,360
over. 
Yeah, especially because, you 

559
00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:31,120
know, with the amount of stuff 
that I get sent to like, you 

560
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:34,200
know, look at or like review or 
anything like that, there are 

561
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,920
some elements that just aren't 
for me. 

562
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,880
And those ones I'm usually kind 
of OK with parting with getting 

563
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,520
rid of them from my stash. 
But because they're still good 

564
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,440
quality items, I'm not just 
gonna throw them in the bin or 

565
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,400
anything like that. 
So the next time the friends 

566
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,960
come over, I'm like, hey, do you
guys want this cat washi tape? 

567
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,240
Do you guys want these florals 
that don't really go with my 

568
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,400
journal? 
Anything like that. 

569
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,040
Usually I can get rid of a good 
portion of them just from my 

570
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,400
friends. 
But if it doesn't, if it doesn't

571
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,920
vibe with them, then I literally
just go onto like my Facebook 

572
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,720
community group or whatever for 
our like local community and say

573
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,480
hey, does anybody have kids that
like really want to get into 

574
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:09,920
crafting? 
Because I've got like a bucket 

575
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,200
load of stuff for them. 
There's a guy in my comments on 

576
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,320
YouTube with one of the recent 
subscription boxes and we had 

577
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,280
this really funny interaction 
where he said, you know, Archer 

578
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,200
and Olive isn't necessarily 
always for me. 

579
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,240
And I talk about this too. 
He's like, but the best thing 

580
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,240
is, is that anytime I don't like
it, I just take it to work. 

581
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,480
And all of the people that I 
work with go crazy over the free

582
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,400
stationary. 
He's like, it makes me look like

583
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,960
a hero. 
I'm giving out all this free 

584
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,640
stuff when really it's just the 
stuff that I didn't want it and 

585
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,360
fit my vibe from the box that I 
got. 

586
00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:40,160
And I was like, I can so align 
with you on this because I do it

587
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,280
all of the time. 
I'll just come into work and be 

588
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,920
like, who wants stickers and 
washi tapes? 

589
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,760
And everyone's like, oh, this is
so cool. 

590
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,240
And they're like, Mark, why are 
all the markers only pink and 

591
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,400
purple and like glitter? 
Like why don't you have any 

592
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,120
their colors? 
I'm like oh because I will 

593
00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:57,440
actually use all the other 
colors because I don't really 

594
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,480
use pink and purples, at least 
not on purpose inside of my 

595
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,640
bullet journal. 
What? 

596
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,320
Talking about Archer and olive, 
one of my regrets would probably

597
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,800
have to be the acrylographs. 
And that's not to say that 

598
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,120
they're like a bad product or 
anything. 

599
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:11,680
You know, people who like paint 
pens, probably fine. 

600
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,280
I just found that the amount of 
maintenance required to keep 

601
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,960
them nice enough to use actively
was like too hard. 

602
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,960
I didn't like having to, you 
know, shake them, prime them, 

603
00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:24,640
get the ink through them, clean 
off the nibs, anything like 

604
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,040
that. 
I also don't like the dry time 

605
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,200
because they just don't align 
with how I like to do my 

606
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,400
planning and journaling. 
It's one of those things that 

607
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,520
like, you know, making sure that
we're buying supplies or 

608
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,400
acquiring supplies that actually
fit our style and those ones did

609
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,280
not fit my style. 
The biggest regret though is 

610
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,560
because I am a completionist. 
It took me a really long time to

611
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,640
come to the decision of like, we
are not collecting any more of 

612
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,920
these. 
Like I had over 1000 U.S. 

613
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,080
Dollars worth of acrylic 
telegraphs before I decided 

614
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,920
like, no, it's enough. 
I feel you on that a lot. 

615
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,440
Especially the very early ones. 
I remember when they first 

616
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,680
started to come out, they were 
defective as all hell. 

617
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,440
I remember pushing it down and 
just like blobs of the like the 

618
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,640
ink or the paint really. 
It's not ink, but coming out on 

619
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,280
my page and just looking at it 
and being like bullshit, you 

620
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,400
know, like what do I even do 
with this? 

621
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,040
I go back and forth with so 
often when I remember to open up

622
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,080
my drawers and I actually 
organized them recently by 

623
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,920
labeling all of them so I can 
quickly find the colors that I 

624
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,560
would actually use. 
And do I love using them because

625
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,200
I'm just like, Oh yeah, I forgot
how much I really do like 

626
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,800
writing with these and using 
these different colors and 

627
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,480
layering them on top of each 
other. 

628
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,280
But but it's rare that I do that
for that same reason. 

629
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,360
It's super fun to shake them up 
and then you're just like, Oh my

630
00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:46,760
God, like I've been doing this 
for like 4 minutes now. 

631
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,080
Is this stuff going to come out?
But then it's the same thing. 

632
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,760
That is the one item though when
we talked about this and again, 

633
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,080
no disrespect to Archer and all 
of it, all on this. 

634
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,960
If that marker pen does not work
or just as completely crap, I 

635
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,040
just throw it right away. 
I don't even try to bring it 

636
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,720
back to life or do anything. 
And I'm getting there with some 

637
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,120
of the coleographs too, if I'm 
being honest with you, because 

638
00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:08,360
they, some of the older ones 
have been getting that little 

639
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:12,360
crystallization stuff on it and 
just totally stops the pen from 

640
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:13,880
working. 
And I've just been chalking them

641
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,280
because I'm just like, it's not 
worth it me doing like pen 

642
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,360
surgery to try to bring this 
back to life. 

643
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,400
It should just work. 
Exactly that, it should just 

644
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,760
work. 
I've been finding that like with

645
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,160
certain pens, I will, you know, 
do the surgery as much as I can.

646
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,880
My Tombos are ones that I'm 
like, no, I will like store you 

647
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,360
upside down. 
I will like try and flick the 

648
00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:35,920
ink to the bottom of the barrel,
like anything like that, 

649
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,960
preserve you for just a little 
bit longer. 

650
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,600
But other pens, it's like a you 
you skipped slightly when I 

651
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,800
tried to write something. 
It's communicado. 

652
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,960
Goodbye, you're dead. 
Denzel, I feel you. 

653
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,240
I think that one of the hard 
things with the acrylographs as 

654
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,480
well is that along with just, 
you know, that kind of 

655
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,240
completionist mentality and it's
like, oh, got to get every set 

656
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,800
kind of a thing, which when you 
live at the ass end, the world 

657
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,120
does become very expensive. 
But because I had as many of 

658
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,560
them as I had, I went through 
kind of like a few iterations of

659
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,280
trying to store them because, 
you know, you had to store them 

660
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,320
horizontally so that you didn't 
get that separation. 

661
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,760
And then, you know, that 4 
minute of shake turns into 40 

662
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,360
minutes of shake or like 
whatever. 

663
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,960
But I found that to store them 
initially, I went and bought a 

664
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,560
set of Muji drawers, those 
little acrylic ones, which are 

665
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,040
also a purchasing regret because
now, as I don't have 

666
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,560
acrylographs anymore, they're 
too shallow to store legit 

667
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,600
anything else I own. 
So I've still got them because 

668
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,000
they were expensive. 
Like, you know, purchasing them 

669
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,120
because we don't have a Muji 
store and then shipping them, 

670
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,600
quite a pricey item. 
I mean, in terms of acrylic 

671
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,200
drawers, quite pricey, but now I
don't have anything to actually 

672
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,920
put in them, but I feel guilty 
giving them away. 

673
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,120
So like, I've tried to pull the 
drawers out and use the drawers 

674
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,920
upside down as like kind of no 
shelf organizers and stuff like 

675
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,480
that. 
But then they're too deep for 

676
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,040
that. 
But then they're too shallow to 

677
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,240
store any pins appropriately. 
Yeah. 

678
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,200
Well, my next item is something 
that again love where I bought 

679
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,400
it from love the idea, never use
it. 

680
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,640
So this is a cool little 
suitcase and inside of this cool

681
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,320
little suitcase are little tiny 
ink samples. 

682
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,480
They're numbered. 
There's a little itty bitty 

683
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,520
glass eyedropper inside of here.
I got this from my buddy Eric 

684
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,920
over at Amarillo stationary. 
It is beautiful inks. 

685
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:27,920
They are teeny tiny and I will 
never travel with this little 

686
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,640
thing anywhere. 
Not because I'm afraid it just 

687
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,040
doesn't make sense. 
Like, Can you imagine me going 

688
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,160
to work and being like, hold on 
guys And I pull out my little 

689
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,800
ink Swatch and like fill up a 
pen while I'm there? 

690
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,440
They'd be like, what is you? 
Who the hell are you? 

691
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,400
It looks so pretentious. 
I'd love it so much. 

692
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,560
Like excuse me just a second, 
just now. 

693
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,040
Just just now. 
So this is turned into one of 

694
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,760
those desk trophy type things 
right where it sits on my desk. 

695
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,960
I love that it, it looks really 
cool. 

696
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,680
That's the that's my problem 
with a lot of stuff is it looks 

697
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,320
really cool. 
I think it's neat. 

698
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,240
I love the idea, but like at 
this point right now, like I 

699
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,520
just need to just use this ink 
that's inside of here so I can 

700
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,480
feel like I really got my 
money's worth. 

701
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,200
And that way it can just be out 
on the table. 

702
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,200
And it's not like there's just 
lost ink sitting inside of here.

703
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,880
So it's a regret to a certain 
extent. 

704
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,680
Again, from a collector's item 
standpoint, I love it. 

705
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,320
I think it's awesome. 
But from a usefulness like 

706
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,320
actually ever going to probably 
use use this in a real world 

707
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,800
scenario? 
No, I think that's the hard 

708
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,600
thing with the little bottles of
ink as well. 

709
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,120
Because obviously when you gave 
me my fountain pen, you also 

710
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,440
gave me some ink. 
Very, very appreciative of that.

711
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,880
But I don't have ink storage, so
they're just sitting like little

712
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,560
vials in an upturned lid from an
Archer and Olive box. 

713
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,840
Just kind of like sitting there 
like by themselves. 

714
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,040
Just so now that's the other 
thing too. 

715
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,400
I was actually going to put ink 
samples on my list. 

716
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,600
I I love how like simpatico 
we're becoming now with the way 

717
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,160
that we're thinking. 
It's hilarious. 

718
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,320
I let me grab it real quick to 
show you because again, more, 

719
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,920
more desk trophy things. 
So someone told me to buy it's a

720
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:08,160
shotgun shell casing, right? 
And it fits sample bottles in it

721
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,280
very nicely. 
So I've been storing them in 

722
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,920
here now too because I'm running
out of sample space because I 

723
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,160
actually have a sample holder 
that I actually bought from my 

724
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,720
Goulet pens that perfectly fits 
them in there. 

725
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,720
It's like a little science tray 
essentially. 

726
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,880
So I have that. 
I also just bought another one 

727
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,560
recently when I was at a pen 
show and then this was my most 

728
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,160
recent purchase to start filling
up. 

729
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,960
But I thought, well that's kind 
of cool. 

730
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,480
Then I have about 6 of them 
sitting over here because I just

731
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,480
did some stuff with Ferris Wheel
Press recently. 

732
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,960
And again, I will use them. 
I'm getting to the point now 

733
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,800
where they actually really work 
well for like the Tom Studio 

734
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,840
pens or Ferris Wheel Press has a
similar thing with like the 

735
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,160
reusable fine liners and brush 
pens where you stick the little 

736
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,960
reservoir in the ink and it 
sucks it up. 

737
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,960
This works out great for that 
because you can easily just 

738
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,080
stick it in there and it sucks 
the ink up and you're like, OK, 

739
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,960
this sample is done next figure 
those things out. 

740
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,320
But otherwise you are just 
storing them. 

741
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,960
And I have this thing where and 
we've talked about I can't wait 

742
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,080
to finally use a bunch of ink, 
but I'm terrified and actually 

743
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,560
finishing a bottle of ink 
because I'm like, what if I 

744
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,920
can't get it again? 
So I have this like weird, full 

745
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,920
of like, yes, use the rest of 
this ink in this stupid little 

746
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,960
ink vial to don't use it because
you don't know if you'll get it 

747
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,960
again. 
No, it's hard like that because 

748
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,200
I I find that for other 
suppliers, calliographs would be

749
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,680
one of them. 
Like not to say that I don't use

750
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,520
my calliographs because I'm 
worried they're going to run 

751
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,440
out, but I do worry that they 
will run out because you can't 

752
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,880
get them again. 
Like they don't re release 

753
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,840
collections unless there's like 
no one would bring back the 

754
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,600
favorites or something. 
But I don't think they bought 

755
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,840
back calliographs with Bring 
Back the Favorites, at least not

756
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,360
this year. 
But that would be one of them. 

757
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,880
Also, like washi tapes from the 
washi tape shop, once they're 

758
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,160
out of season, they very seldom 
come back. 

759
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,440
And then you have the problem of
like, you use them in the video 

760
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,920
and everyone's like, Oh my God, 
that's beautiful. 

761
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,600
Where did you get it? 
You're like, I'm sorry, it's 

762
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,480
been sold off for many moons, 
but. 

763
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,800
No, I actually completely agree 
with you on that too. 

764
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,360
I think so often when we're 
using those and we talked about 

765
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,080
that before, it's so terrible to
be like, sorry, this is a six 

766
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,160
year old washi tape that I just 
found in the bottom of my 

767
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,000
drawer. 
That's why I'm using it again. 

768
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,400
You can't get it anymore. 
Just like, oh crap, I think we 

769
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,239
should start treating it like 
vintage clothing. 

770
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,560
You know, like you go and you 
buy your like, this is vintage 

771
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,159
Ferris Wheel Press from two 
years ago because they don't 

772
00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:21,800
make the color anymore. 
Yeah, I think it would be very 

773
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,159
impressive to use an entire 
bottle of ink, though, because 

774
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,400
what, I filled up my fountain 
pen once, and admittedly, I 

775
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,920
don't use it as much as other 
people use theirs, but I filled 

776
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,440
it up once. 
I only filled it up like a 

777
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,920
centimeter of the way because I 
was just like, OK, come on, we 

778
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,880
don't want to fill the entire 
thing or anything like that. 

779
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:39,719
And that one has still lost me 
many many moons. 

780
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,360
Probably last me many moons to 
come. 

781
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,080
We got to get you to clean that 
thing out and just put some 

782
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,840
black ink in it. 
I think that's going to be the 

783
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,520
thing that'll force you just to 
use, not force you, but make you

784
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,000
want to use it more If it has a 
color in it that you'll actually

785
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,080
use a lot. 
I do that a lot with mine where 

786
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:55,639
I'll fill them with like a cool 
color or whatever, but like my 

787
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:58,480
go to will just be like, oh, 
here's a fountain pen with black

788
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,240
ink in it. 
That makes the most sense. 

789
00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:03,240
It happens all the time. 
I always have at least a pen on 

790
00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:05,640
my desk filled with black ink 
and then I'll have another one 

791
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,000
with like a fun color in it. 
Always go for the black ink 

792
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,240
first. 
So I think we should do that. 

793
00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:11,880
Maybe we should do like hand 
over hand virtually on how to 

794
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,480
clean out Iris, how to care for 
her, tend for her and then how 

795
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,640
to fill her with a new just 
regular black ink. 

796
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,680
I think you'll you'll be better.
Yeah, I know that because the 

797
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,520
black ink that you gave me, 
people saying like, oh, it's 

798
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,640
going to stain the inside of the
pen. 

799
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,120
I'm like, no, Iris, don't do it.
You have so much to live for. 

800
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,600
That's what's actually the same 
Black egg is inside of here. 

801
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,720
It looks like it's stained. 
Once I clean this out, it'll 

802
00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:35,760
just come out. 
It's honestly, it's people get a

803
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,760
little too uptight about stuff 
like that. 

804
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,360
It's also just a pen and you can
always buy another one or I can 

805
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,600
buy you another one, Jess, if 
you really need me to. 

806
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,000
Do not hold back from filling 
that up. 

807
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,360
You will be OK. 
Well, Iris is not a regret. 

808
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,240
She does not deserve to be on 
this list. 

809
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:54,080
But what would be your next 
purchasing regret? 

810
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:59,840
All right, so Speaking of black 
items, I have so many blackout 

811
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:04,560
sticky notes because I thought, 
Mark, you're going to use these 

812
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,080
blackout sticky notes all the 
time. 

813
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,800
Look how cool they are. 
Look how many gel pens you have,

814
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,720
acrylic wraps that you have that
you could write on them with. 

815
00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:17,080
It is such a pain in the ass to 
take out anything extra just to 

816
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,200
make it work on black sticky 
notes. 

817
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,640
I feel the same way about 
blackout paper. 

818
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,440
I know there's a world out there
you can at me and tell me I'm 

819
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:29,200
wrong, but honestly blackout 
paper is fun paper. 

820
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,240
It is not for me a daily 
newspaper. 

821
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:35,400
So the fact of like buying these
blackouts to use them inside of 

822
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,720
my journal or anywhere in my 
general space requires me to 

823
00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:42,680
also have a pen that will work 
appropriately on these. 

824
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,080
And we all I know it's 
impossible to find like a good 

825
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,080
white gel pen. 
And even if I do, I don't use it

826
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,280
that much. 
So it like goes someplace where 

827
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,000
it takes me too long to find it 
and I'm like, screw it, grab a 

828
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,200
yellow 1. 
So I have a whole bunch of these

829
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,760
just sitting around. 
Maybe one day it will not be 

830
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,560
today nor tomorrow. 
Yeah, I mainly use them as kind 

831
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,320
of like embellishments or just 
like decoration rather than 

832
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,640
actually writing on them because
I'm very much the same. 

833
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,040
If I have to write over the top 
of black paper, it's usually 

834
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,000
like a gel pen or a paint pen or
whatever, and then there's dry 

835
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,600
time and I couldn't be bothered.
I have other things to do with 

836
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,400
my time that it looks really 
cool. 

837
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,440
It looks absolutely amazing, but
I just, I don't have the 

838
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,640
inclination to wait around for 
it to dry. 

839
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,200
And even then once it is fully 
dry, you know, left it for three

840
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,840
to seven business days or 
whatever. 

841
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,760
As soon as I close that 
notebook, it transfers to the 

842
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,440
other side. 
So I'm like, cool, now I've got 

843
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,640
reverse ghosting or something 
like that. 

844
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,800
Well, the one thing I don't 
regret are the transparent 

845
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,640
sticky notes. 
I'll be use them all day long. 

846
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,440
I think they're the coolest damn
things out there on the market. 

847
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,480
But yeah, the blackout ones, I'm
not here for non transparency. 

848
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,400
All right, Jess, what's your 
next regret? 

849
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,760
This one's tricky because I know
that there is use with the item 

850
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,520
and I have used it before. 
It's just that I don't really 

851
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,840
use it anymore. 
And that would be any kind of 

852
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,280
like thermal printer that only 
prints in black and white. 

853
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,520
Because oftentimes if I want to 
print something in black and 

854
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,200
white, like I'll just use my 
regular printer. 

855
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,480
I don't I don't need a travel 
printer and these thermal 

856
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,120
printers are usually kind of 
travel size. 

857
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,320
They do print on sticker paper, 
which is kind of nice. 

858
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,640
You can just stick it into your 
journal. 

859
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,040
But now that I have the the 
required skills to be able to 

860
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,240
print on the larger sheets of 
sticker paper on my home printer

861
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:21,720
and get a usually a better 
quality of print and also the 

862
00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:24,560
ability to print in color, I 
just do not use the thermal 

863
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,880
printer anymore. 
So for some people like, you 

864
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,080
know, if you don't have an at 
home printer or if you're on the

865
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,280
go or whatever, then they can be
quite useful. 

866
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,360
But because they are also 
thermal, then they run the risk 

867
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,000
of like, I know your journal 
gets overheated and now your 

868
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,840
image is kind of warped or 
anything like that. 

869
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,680
I never really found that to be 
an issue. 

870
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,640
Then again, I don't usually 
leave my journal in the oven, so

871
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:45,600
it's usually fine. 
It's funny that you mentioned 

872
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:46,640
that. 
That's how people talk about 

873
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,000
those friction pens. 
I don't come frictions with the 

874
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,640
friction ones. 
People like these are so great 

875
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,320
because they erase, but then 
people use them in like 

876
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,320
different types of journals and 
they're like, oh, I left my 

877
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,800
journal in the car and it got 
too hot and my writing went away

878
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,320
and I had to stick my journal 
inside of the freezer to try to 

879
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,240
get it back. 
And I was like, that's not worth

880
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:04,720
it to me. 
I don't care. 

881
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,480
But then at the same time, I 
feel like it is a very off rare 

882
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,960
thing that it ever would get 
that hot or you would leave your

883
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,440
journal in the car where that 
would happen. 

884
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,280
But I just always, always think 
about that scenario where I was 

885
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,120
just like, no, like Rocket book,
because the whole idea there is 

886
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,400
that you use them and then you 
take a picture of them with the 

887
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,760
app and then you erase it and 
there's only like a handful of 

888
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,160
pages inside of there. 
That's where I hear it the most 

889
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,200
that people use the Rocket Books
and then they do the same thing 

890
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,640
and they they stick it in the 
freezer. 

891
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,320
Jess like that seems silly to 
put a book in a freezer because 

892
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,480
you accidentally lost your 
writing. 

893
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,320
So not worth it for me. 
I don't need to erase my pens 

894
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:38,960
that badly. 
I. 

895
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,240
Don't know, putting it in the 
freezer just reminds me those 

896
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:44,520
people who, like, try and freeze
their credit cards in ice, which

897
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,480
I mean, like with the rise of 
online shopping, probably 

898
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,160
doesn't really work as much 
anymore. 

899
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,680
But not at all. 
Yeah, I think that the thermal 

900
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,520
printer, that would probably be 
one, like, I just, I know that 

901
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,920
you can get your different types
of paper that it can stick on so

902
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,560
you can do different colors and 
everything like that, but I just

903
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,320
don't get as much use out of 
mine anymore. 

904
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,720
I'm probably going to give mine 
away. 

905
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,160
I've always wanted one to be 
honest with you because I see so

906
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,400
many do them, but I know that 
those thermal printer companies 

907
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,440
also reach out to a lot of 
creators too to try to get them 

908
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,080
to do it. 
And if you have reached out to 

909
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,560
me, it's just that the the offer
is just not something that I'm 

910
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,040
interested in or they're asking 
for like ridiculous amount of 

911
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,440
deliverables for nothing 
essentially for like a $50 

912
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,240
printer. 
I was like, if I really wanted 

913
00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:25,000
you that bad, I would just buy 
it myself. 

914
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,680
So that's one of those things 
where like I could have had one 

915
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,240
just not selling myself to the 
thermal paper devil to to get 

916
00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:32,960
it. 
Yeah, it is a bit like that. 

917
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,560
I like if I wanted it enough, 
I'd get it myself. 

918
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,920
That's I say that to myself. 
But it was like, would you 

919
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,080
though? 
Because there are plenty of 

920
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,120
things that you want enough, but
you just don't buy them. 

921
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,560
And I don't know if it's because
I'm like, oh, well, eventually, 

922
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,600
maybe at some point the 
opportunity will come along to 

923
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,920
work with people who have that 
item and then I don't have to 

924
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,040
buy it for myself. 
Like we had that happen with my 

925
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,480
cricket. 
Vogel bought me a cricket for my

926
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,680
birthday and it sat in a box 
unused for like 2 1/2 years. 

927
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,640
And then the people at cricket 
reached out and said, hey, can 

928
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,720
we send you a cricket? 
I'm like, sure. 

929
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,040
Vocal was not very impressed. 
So now you have two crickets. 

930
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,680
No, I ended up selling the one 
that he got me because it was 

931
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,480
like the the model down because 
it had been like 2 and a half 

932
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,200
years at that point and just got
like the disapproving like. 

933
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,680
You're like, but technically we 
saved money. 

934
00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:21,640
Yeah, I was like, we made it 
back. 

935
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,120
Kind of like, yeah, not not a 
great consolation prize. 

936
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,000
I did feel a little guilty about
that, but I have at least used 

937
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,720
this cricket four times, which I
think counts. 

938
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,360
Well worth it. 
Well worth it. 

939
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,680
Yeah, that's great. 
Let's not do the math on how 

940
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,680
much that is per cut. 
All righty Mark, what would be 

941
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,200
your next regrettable purchase? 
The only fountain pen that I 

942
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,720
have ever regretted buying is 
this right Trek 1 and This is 

943
00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:49,600
why I saw all of my favorite pen
friends talking about this. 

944
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,680
It's a very inexpensive 
retractable pen and the reason I

945
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,640
regret it. 
And if you're on YouTube, you'll

946
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,040
see this. 
If not, I will describe it. 

947
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,320
When you push it up, there's a 
the drawer essentially that that

948
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:07,320
allows the nib to come out is on
the right side of the pen. 

949
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,160
I am a left-handed person. 
It literally blocks me from 

950
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,240
seeing what I'm writing as I'm 
writing it because it's it's 

951
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:18,480
that big. 
So I have other retractable 

952
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,000
pens. 
But The thing is, is that that 

953
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,600
little door that opens up to 
release and kind of seal it in 

954
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,040
is on the inside of the pen. 
So you never ever see that 

955
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,880
thing. 
You only see the nib coming out.

956
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,320
So this is the regret because 
while it wasn't expensive, it is

957
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,160
just I don't use it honestly 
because I can't see what I'm I'm

958
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,000
writing. 
I have to literally like lay on 

959
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,000
top of my notebook to like peek 
on the other side to make sure 

960
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,640
I'm actually writing what I'm 
writing. 

961
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,440
So it is one of those things. 
It's here, it's inexpensive, it 

962
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,120
does sit on my desk. 
It's something to grab sometimes

963
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,560
if I need to, but I usually 
don't go for this because it 

964
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,800
literally impedes me from seeing
what I'm writing. 

965
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,280
The other really funny thing 
about this, and it's more about 

966
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,000
now the comedy of it, when I 
bought this pen, it literally 

967
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,040
says retractable fountain pen 
and warning, do not put your 

968
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,720
finger on the nib cover to 
prevent stabbing. 

969
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,640
It's on the pen. 
It was on the outside of the 

970
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,240
packaging, on the inside of the 
packaging, and on every single 

971
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:17,720
ink cartridge that came as well.
It's basically a death tool that

972
00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:20,880
they have to warn you against. 
And I am a firm believer in this

973
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,440
and I know this. 
I used to work for a power tool 

974
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,560
company. 
You only have to add some of 

975
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,360
those warnings if someone has 
injured themselves. 

976
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,080
So the fact that they had to put
this over top of every article 

977
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,120
of this pen makes me feel like 
that happened a lot. 

978
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,840
I do love how many warnings 
there must have been like to 

979
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,680
actually how many issues or 
incidents have happened like 0 

980
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,240
days without incident. 
New label on pen like Oh dear. 

981
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,600
How much ink poisoning do we 
provide this year? 

982
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,920
How many people wrote us back 
and left the Amazon review? 

983
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,840
One star. 
I mixed my ink and blood because

984
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,120
of this pen, you know? 
My fingers are now green and 

985
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,760
it's all your pens fault. 
All right, Jess, what's your 

986
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,080
next regret? 
So this one, like I, I don't 

987
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,440
even know why I got it because 
it's not like I was going to use

988
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,400
it anyways. 
I think it was, again, it's the 

989
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,320
marketing. 
That's how they get you and 

990
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,480
everybody on the on the 
interwebs, on the on the 

991
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,760
Youtubes and the Instagrams was 
using it. 

992
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,680
I'm like, oh, it looks so cool. 
I must have one. 

993
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,480
Why? 
I don't paint, but it was a 

994
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,240
paintbrush cleaner. 
Very cool. 

995
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,120
Used it once, got rid of it. 
I want one wait is it the one 

996
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,080
that has the reservoir on it and
the whole I want 1 so bad for no

997
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,280
reason at all Don't. 
Get it? 

998
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,120
It's so unnecessary. 
It's a cool concept. 

999
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,200
If you're the kind of person who
paints a lot, then like maybe. 

1000
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,840
But effectively what it is, is 
that we have an upside down 

1001
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,840
reservoir of water which then 
attaches to a little channel 

1002
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,240
which has a little pool at the 
end. 

1003
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,440
And the little pool has a 
plastic stopper that you can 

1004
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,520
press a button and then that 
stopper pulls down and the ink 

1005
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,200
or like paint water or whatever,
kind of like drains through. 

1006
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,280
That's the general gist of it. 
The issue that I found is one 

1007
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,400
all of that water just gets 
stored in the bottom, so you 

1008
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,520
have to go and empty it and a 
kind of like regular interval, 

1009
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,600
otherwise it'll get really 
bloody manky too because of the 

1010
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,800
rubber stopper at the bottom of 
the little pool. 

1011
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,880
That doesn't really clean very 
well unless you're quite 

1012
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,040
aggressive with your brushes 
because it only gives you a very

1013
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,480
small portion of water. 
If you have paint filled 

1014
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,200
paintbrush, then you're gonna 
have to flush it quite a few 

1015
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,440
times to get all of that paint 
out of there. 

1016
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,000
But while you're doing that, 
you're literally just painting 

1017
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,640
onto the little rubber stopper. 
So the little rubber stopper 

1018
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,320
gets kind of manky quite quickly
unless you're, you know, pre 

1019
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,320
cleaning your brush before you 
use the paintbrush cleaner, 

1020
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,640
which feels like it kind of 
defeats the point. 

1021
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,240
But the biggest issue is that I 
don't paint like I don't I never

1022
00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:42,120
use paint. 
I don't like things that make my

1023
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,360
take too long in my journal. 
If I do paint, it's usually just

1024
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,760
gold watercolors and it's very 
fine touches. 

1025
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,200
So I don't even need to clean up
my paintbrush because I'm not 

1026
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,880
changing colours. 
So why I thought this was 

1027
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,960
necessary to have in my 
mustache, but I had it for at 

1028
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,200
least a week before I got rid of
it. 

1029
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,360
Just it's so funny you say this 
item because I literally almost 

1030
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,320
bought one last week because 
I've seen them for so long in so

1031
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,600
many ads. 
And I was like, Mark, you know 

1032
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,160
that this would be great when 
you're doing your ink swatches 

1033
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,880
and you could just like easily 
clean that off and not have to 

1034
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,600
change the water so often in the
little glass containers that I 

1035
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,360
use. 
But then I like started getting 

1036
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,960
in real deep and I started 
actually doing research and like

1037
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,720
how much water does it hold and 
how much space is actually in 

1038
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:26,640
that little, little thing? 
And I was like, it doesn't 

1039
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:31,200
actually make sense because it's
so shallow of water that my 

1040
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,320
Swatch items that I use for my 
ink wouldn't actually fit in 

1041
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,920
there to rinse off. 
So I actually talked myself out 

1042
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,760
of it, but I almost instant 
bought it because I was like, 

1043
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,280
it's time mark. 
It's super inexpensive, like 

1044
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,200
you'll totally use it. 
So I'm glad to hear that I 

1045
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,040
didn't because what you just 
said because that essentially 

1046
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,000
would be it. 
And also I probably would have 

1047
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,080
been like pressing the little 
button down would've been 

1048
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,040
flushing itself constantly and 
just I don't know, but it does 

1049
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,360
does look really cool. 
Yeah, I think the hard part also

1050
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,800
is that it comes in parts, so 
you have to like simple it 

1051
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,560
yourself. 
I'm like, this is an IKEA. 

1052
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:05,960
I didn't sign up for this. 
And it's like these tiny, tiny 

1053
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,080
screws because to, you know, 
press the button down to release

1054
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,800
the little plastic pad thing or 
whatever it is on a little 

1055
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,760
spring system. 
So you kind of screw it into 

1056
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,280
itself with a little spring. 
So when you push it down, it 

1057
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,560
actually kind of like comes 
away. 

1058
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,680
It's a cool concept. 
And I think that if you painted 

1059
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,480
with very small paint brushes 
with very minimal amounts of 

1060
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,600
paint and it was really kind of 
just watercolor based on 

1061
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,520
whatever, like maybe, but at the
same time, I feel like a jar of 

1062
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:35,080
water is going to be sufficient.
Yeah, it's probably better in 

1063
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,520
the long run, but it is cool to 
have a little flushable 

1064
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,560
mechanism though in theory. 
I'm thinking like could you just

1065
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,480
make your own one at home like 
with a little like hamster like 

1066
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,720
water bottle feeder or something
like that? 

1067
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,960
Yeah, I you could probably get 
one of the like the little dog 

1068
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,360
bowls that like rinses itself 
out and like refreshes itself 

1069
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:53,800
often. 
I'm sure that would do the same 

1070
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,880
exact thing. 
But then again, you have some 

1071
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,960
little like dog water bowl on 
your desk that you're like, 

1072
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,400
well, when am I going to fill 
this up? 

1073
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,400
And could I have just filled the
container that the water was in 

1074
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,360
instead of this whole thing and 
spilling it? 

1075
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,400
It's probably just a disaster 
waiting to happen around here. 

1076
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,440
I feel like, yeah, you just need
like a three jar system or 

1077
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:12,960
something. 
You've got like the first rinse,

1078
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,120
the second rinse, the third, and
then it just kind of like goes 

1079
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,680
through each of those or 
something. 

1080
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,160
I actually have a three jar 
system. 

1081
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,800
When I clean out my fountain pen
just I have the one that does 

1082
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,320
all the ink that I'm squirting 
out of the pen goes into. 

1083
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,480
And then I have my middle one 
which where I suck the ink up 

1084
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,520
out of and then spit it into the
first jar. 

1085
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,480
And that one gets a little dirty
just because the ink is flowing.

1086
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,360
And then once it's clean, then I
use my third jar for the 

1087
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,600
cleaning water and then it gets 
sat to dry. 

1088
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,280
So there is a process to that. 
Now why I don't mind doing that 

1089
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,000
instead of those other things, I
don't know. 

1090
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,400
It's good to work with the tidy 
pen. 

1091
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,440
It is. 
It's absolutely important to do 

1092
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:48,680
that. 
What would be another one of 

1093
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,560
your regrets Spark? 
All right, so I went through 

1094
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:55,200
this phase, Jess, where I felt 
like every pen that I had had to

1095
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,200
be sitting on the holder. 
And so I actually did like a 

1096
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,880
whole research project and I 
found a bunch and the ones that 

1097
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:06,400
I couldn't send back were these 
cute little crabs and they do 

1098
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,240
hold. 
They are adorable and they are 

1099
00:49:09,240 --> 00:49:12,640
so cool. 
I never put pens on these and 

1100
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,080
these again have become a behind
me shelf. 

1101
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,400
I don't because I cannot for the
life of me throw them away. 

1102
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,640
So I should just use them more. 
But the problem is, is like I 

1103
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,680
have like really nice holders 
instead with like velvet on the 

1104
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,400
inside and things like that. 
So when I'm like, do you sit 

1105
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,800
your pen inside of a nice 
velvety thing or put it on a 

1106
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,440
plastic crab? 
I always shoot for the nicer 

1107
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:34,920
thing because I spent more money
on it. 

1108
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,760
Again, it's a silly little thing
and they, you know, maybe cost 

1109
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,400
like 5 bucks for two of them. 
But look at those. 

1110
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,520
You can't throw away a little 
crab pen holder. 

1111
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,200
Jess, look how cute they. 
Are no One of my favorite memes 

1112
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,880
is mess with the crab. 
Oh, you get the stab. 

1113
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,400
Oh, and it's a crab holding a 
knife. 

1114
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,160
So I'm like, you need to keep 
the crabs. 

1115
00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:52,600
Yeah, I'll start putting knives 
on them instead. 

1116
00:49:52,720 --> 00:49:55,040
Maybe that'll just do it more 
than the pens. 

1117
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:55,720
I don't know. 
They're not. 

1118
00:49:55,720 --> 00:49:59,480
They're also not very sturdy and
like the little stabby claws 

1119
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,680
also are not very thin. 
They need like a very little 

1120
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,520
pen. 
Like I'd have to put like my 

1121
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,280
little tiny, like Lily Put, 
which is the smallest pen ever 

1122
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:08,520
in the world. 
Like that would work. 

1123
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,000
There we go. 
I found a new holder for my Lily

1124
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,840
put. 
Perfection. 

1125
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,320
Beautiful all. 
Right, Jess, what do you got? 

1126
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,240
So another one that I'm gonna, 
I'm gonna say that it's not 

1127
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:22,280
necessarily a regret yet, but it
might be if I don't put the 

1128
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,360
time, effort and energy into 
practice using it. 

1129
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,680
And that would be the gyro 
cutter. 

1130
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,720
It's effectively a craft knife 
where the head of the craft 

1131
00:50:29,720 --> 00:50:33,360
knife spins so that you can kind
of, you know, cut squiggles and 

1132
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,720
circles and cut around things. 
It's supposed to be good for 

1133
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:39,080
fussy cutting, but the blade is 
not. 

1134
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,520
It's not to say the blade isn't 
sharp like if I took my finger 

1135
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,600
to so it'd probably be an Ouch. 
I'm not going to try it. 

1136
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,080
But anyway, it's just compared 
to my regular craft knife, which

1137
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,800
has a very thin, very fine 
blade. 

1138
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,840
It doesn't doesn't have anything
close to that. 

1139
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,960
And it's probably so that it 
actually does spin around and 

1140
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,320
you know, you can do those kind 
of motions and whatnot. 

1141
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,920
But I would like it to not not 
to say I would like it to work 

1142
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,480
better. 
I would like to be better able 

1143
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,560
to use it so that I can do kind 
of like fussy cutting around pet

1144
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,400
tapes and stuff. 
Because a lot of the PET florals

1145
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,280
that I have from like the Washi 
tape shop and stuff, they are 

1146
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,760
individual florals that I have 
to go and fussy cut myself and 

1147
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,240
it would be nice to not have to 
do that. 

1148
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,480
So it sounds like user error is 
the reason you regret it. 

1149
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,320
Yeah, I don't have the skills. 
It's like when you buy a tool, 

1150
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,160
thinking like this is going to 
change the game for me. 

1151
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,440
This is going to be the thing 
that turns me into an artist. 

1152
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,560
And then you get it. 
You're like, Oh no, I'm just the

1153
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,520
same person with the same level 
of skills with a fancy tool. 

1154
00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:35,560
It's like your water brush 
cleaner, right? 

1155
00:51:35,720 --> 00:51:38,200
Literally, yeah. 
It's like aspirational purchases

1156
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,480
like this will be the thing that
turns me into a painter. 

1157
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,680
I'm like, no, this turns you 
into a person who doesn't paint,

1158
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:48,520
who has a tool for painters. 
I see those gyro cutters. 

1159
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,440
They do look very cool. 
And as much as I love collecting

1160
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,440
tools, that is the one thing 
where I just think to myself, 

1161
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:55,640
you're not going to use it, 
Mark. 

1162
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,320
Like I am petrified to cut pages
out of my journal. 

1163
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,080
I have done it maybe twice in my
entire life and I've regretted 

1164
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,160
it both of those times. 
So I don't think fussy cutting, 

1165
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,920
which I've never heard of ever 
before in the entire world. 

1166
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,120
I feel like that's just that 
Jesse ISM again. 

1167
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:10,840
Oh, it's. 
Not that one. 

1168
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,640
That one's not, I can't take 
credit for that. 

1169
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,680
That's that is a planet thing. 
It's just, I don't think you'd 

1170
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,560
do it, but it's effectively just
like going and cutting very 

1171
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,760
close and around an item that is
usually kind of a weird shape. 

1172
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,560
I feel like that would be like a
derogatory term you would call 

1173
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,960
somebody like you fussy gutter. 
You're a fussy gutter. 

1174
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,080
That is actually probably that's
what I will call some people who

1175
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,040
are like very like uppity about 
their journals and stuff like 

1176
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,560
that. 
Like you're such a fussy gutter.

1177
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,800
That's fine, you can sit at my 
table because I am that person. 

1178
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,880
All right, Jess. 
Well, my last thing I have on my

1179
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,360
list, this is gonna cause maybe 
a little concern, and I'm sure 

1180
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,760
plenty of people will reach out 
to me on this. 

1181
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:56,680
I regret buying as many A5 
notebooks from Archer and Olive 

1182
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,840
as I have. 
And I know people, they might 

1183
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:03,040
there might have audibly gasped 
when I say this, but the reason 

1184
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,240
is that maybe there's people 
that have more. 

1185
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:10,120
I have 60 unused A5 bullet 
journals right now just from 

1186
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,040
Archer and Olive. 
That doesn't actually count the 

1187
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,080
other brands. 
So it might be a handful more 

1188
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:18,080
that's just from Archer and 
Olive that I will likely not 

1189
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:22,080
use, period. 
But, and this is where people 

1190
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,800
start to reach out and say Mark,
but you can send those books to 

1191
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:25,920
me. 
I'll use them. 

1192
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:30,920
I can't because they have 
vintage designs on them from 

1193
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,440
Archer and Olive that will never
be released ever again, and if 

1194
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,000
for whatever reason I'm in the 
mood to use it, I won't be able 

1195
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,400
to. 
Therefore I also can't get rid 

1196
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,320
of them. 
Oh, I mean, my stash is a little

1197
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,480
bigger than yours. 
I mean, mine's including any 

1198
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,160
notebook. 
So like we have like Bullet 

1199
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:56,360
journal and what maybe one other
Lt. 1917 and a couple from Kumar

1200
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,280
stationary and Crafts and like 
all these other places. 

1201
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:03,200
But my current unused A5 total 
is 108. 

1202
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,520
But I do use my A fives, so I'm 
not like too sad about it. 

1203
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,520
Like I know that they're going 
to get used as like R&D 

1204
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,840
notebooks or everyday journals 
or anything like that. 

1205
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,440
So it doesn't really worry me. 
But you don't really use A fives

1206
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,480
very often. 
Not often, every now and again 

1207
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,720
I'll say like oh I'm going to go
back to a smaller size. 

1208
00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:23,520
I've been working in B fives or 
squares for as long as I have. 

1209
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,000
But I think that I've been come 
just a bigger notebook person. 

1210
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,040
But it also is very lifestyle 
driven to being a remote worker.

1211
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:34,240
Now I have the basically 
unlimited space for AB5 live or 

1212
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:37,240
a square notebook could be open 
in my space at all times versus 

1213
00:54:37,240 --> 00:54:40,400
when I was commuting and I was 
at like a shared desk space or 

1214
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,280
in meetings with, you know, 15 
other people around you in this 

1215
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,680
much arm room, I could only fit 
kind of an A5 inside of my 

1216
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,640
space. 
So it's very much like time and 

1217
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,240
place. 
So who knows, maybe something 

1218
00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:52,840
will change in the future, 
hopefully not where I have to go

1219
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,640
back into the office more than 
once a month. 

1220
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,480
But if that happens, maybe I 
would go back to something like 

1221
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,080
that, but it would be really 
difficult for me, I feel like to

1222
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,320
do that. 
But I agree with you. 

1223
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,280
Maybe it's just I have to let go
of the fact of that, like I 

1224
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,960
won't be able to necessarily 
maybe use them for a bullet 

1225
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,840
journal. 
I might change my mind, but 

1226
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,040
maybe use them for R&D journals 
because I do like to get kind of

1227
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,280
stuff out in that spaces. 
So I might eventually. 

1228
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:18,200
But then that's the problem is I
will sometimes buy journals to 

1229
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,360
be research and development 
journals so that I'm just kind 

1230
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,600
of offsetting myself further and
further back from when I'm 

1231
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,840
actually going to use them. 
No, that's fair. 

1232
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,160
I do wish that earlier in my 
kind of journaling journey I had

1233
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:36,240
tried other sizes because I am 
very much an A5 inclined person.

1234
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:39,000
I prefer working in an A5 for 
the most part. 

1235
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,280
I do love the square. 
It's like kind of like if this 

1236
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,840
is my A5 love, then my square 
love is like just underneath it 

1237
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:46,440
and then B5 is like way at the 
bottom. 

1238
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,720
Goodbye, no. 
But the problem is just I guess 

1239
00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:52,280
when we started bullet drilling,
which was right around the same 

1240
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,960
time, I don't know that there 
were many square notebooks out 

1241
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:57,360
there. 
I think honestly, the only one 

1242
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,880
that I ever maybe remember 
seeing was from Ferris Wheel 

1243
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,640
Press and those were way out of 
my price range early on. 

1244
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,720
And I don't know that I would 
have necessarily liked it. 

1245
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,600
I'm not sure. 
I haven't ever used a Ferris 

1246
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,400
Wheel Press notebook. 
I've only used their inks and 

1247
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,680
pens, but that was the only 
thing that I saw. 

1248
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,000
But it was when I was on the 
Archer and Olive design team at 

1249
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,680
the time. 
Now considered the the 

1250
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,160
ambassador team is when they 
started to roll those out. 

1251
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,000
And I will never forget my first
one. 

1252
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,960
It was my it was, it was that 
moment, you know, that aha 

1253
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,360
moment when you just held it and
I created it. 

1254
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,760
I was like this is exactly what 
I want. 

1255
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:35,240
This is the perfect space 
between an A5 and like AB 5. 

1256
00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:38,840
This is glorious. 
This is heaven in a 8 by 8 inch 

1257
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,440
surface. 
See, I remember getting my first

1258
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,280
square notebook and I think it 
was again from being on the 

1259
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,720
ambassador team and then like 
sending you your welcome package

1260
00:56:47,720 --> 00:56:49,880
or whatever. 
And I looked at them like, fuck,

1261
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,120
am I supposed to do with this 
now? 

1262
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,720
Now I love it. 
Now I love squares, but at the 

1263
00:56:54,720 --> 00:57:00,280
time I was just like brother. 
Alright Jess, what's your final 

1264
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,560
regret? 
I feel like this one is gonna 

1265
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,520
get me cancelled by at least 
some people. 

1266
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,040
So like, if this is your 
favorite supply, just no. 

1267
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,920
I don't think it's a bad 
product. 

1268
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,560
I completely understand the 
merits of it and I know why 

1269
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,520
people like them as much as they
do. 

1270
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,360
But when I first started 
journaling, I mean, still, but 

1271
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,000
when I first started journaling,
everybody was using these, 

1272
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:24,000
these, this was the thing like 
you had to get your Lt. 1917 and

1273
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,240
you had to get this thing and 
that was going to be like your 

1274
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,400
combo for doing your journaling 
and whatnot. 

1275
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,160
I'm nervous what you're about to
say. 

1276
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:31,960
I know. 
I know that people like them, 

1277
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,280
but I just, I haven't used them 
all that much. 

1278
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,840
The extent to which I got any 
kind of use out of them was when

1279
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,200
I was a teacher, and that was 
just because I felt guilty that 

1280
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,480
I hadn't used them. 
So I tried to use them. 

1281
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,480
Jess, what is it? 
Jess, what is it we have to 

1282
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,040
know? 
It's the mild signers and I 

1283
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,440
just, I don't, I don't get the 
appeal really. 

1284
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,960
Like they're cute and I, I have 
them on the desk is like a 

1285
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,680
pretty decorative thing, but 
like I just don't use them at 

1286
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,920
all. 
And I'm a completionist though, 

1287
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,560
So I have to get them. 
I had to get the full set of the

1288
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,400
rainbow ones and I had to go get
the brush tip ones as well. 

1289
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,720
And because they had that set 
where it's like a different 

1290
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,080
color in Japan versus in 
America, I had to get my 

1291
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,120
American friend to send me one 
of the copper ones because I 

1292
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,640
didn't have it. 
Why I don't use them? 

1293
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,720
I know this about myself, but I 
must. 

1294
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,040
I had to have the pen, I had to 
have that pen, and now I have 

1295
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,160
two of that pen and I'm not 
going to use that pen, but I've 

1296
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,200
got 2 of that pen. 
I mean, I understand the 

1297
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,640
completionist nature. 
I mean, we've got all these 

1298
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,360
beautiful ones that we got from 
Go Wild. 

1299
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,920
And I'm not just saying this 
because they sponsored me at Go 

1300
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,920
Wild. 
I mean, obviously I'm a major 

1301
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,720
fan of Mildliners and Zebra 
Forever and Always. 

1302
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,040
I'm very appreciative to them. 
But I was the same way with it. 

1303
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,440
The thing for me though with 
with them and I will say is 

1304
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,160
there are a whole lot of colors,
right? 

1305
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,160
We all know this because like 
you said, they have a rainbow 

1306
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,800
and you just like want more. 
But then you're like, but I, I'm

1307
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,720
pretty sure I already have 
several of them. 

1308
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,280
So that's one of those items I 
talked about taking to work 

1309
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,440
where I'm like, who wants free 
stationary? 

1310
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,400
And they're like, Mark, why are 
all of these highlighters purple

1311
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,440
and pink? 
Like, well, I do work with them 

1312
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,320
and they send me a new pack 
every time we do work together 

1313
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,720
for whatever I was like. 
So I have several of these, but 

1314
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,480
I understand where you're coming
from though. 

1315
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,360
But like they're so great. 
They're it's like 2 peas and a 

1316
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,440
pod Notebook journaling and mild
liners. 

1317
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,880
Like I can't think about them 
without them, but they kind of 

1318
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,200
go together. 
I remember getting my first set.

1319
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,160
I was so excited. 
I'm like, Oh my God, this is it.

1320
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,800
I'm like a real journaler now. 
And then after like a week and a

1321
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,080
half, I was just like, I think 
I'm gonna get Tombos. 

1322
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,120
So I went and got the full set 
of Tombos instead. 

1323
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,680
And to be honest, I use my 
tombos to death. 

1324
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,360
Like there are multiple of those
that I've had to replace 

1325
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,280
multiple times because I do use 
the ever loving heck out of them

1326
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,200
and thus they get dried out. 
I replace them. 

1327
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,120
I have my full collection very 
happy. 

1328
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:51,280
I have used maybe one mild liner
to the point where it kind of 

1329
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,280
needed replacing. 
And then I just didn't replace 

1330
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,360
it because I'm like, I've got 
the the colour, I've got the 

1331
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,480
cap, it's in the rainbow looks 
cute, but I don't use it. 

1332
00:59:58,480 --> 00:59:59,960
So I don't see the point of 
replacing it. 

1333
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,840
The biggest thing that I had 
about my liner early on, it was 

1334
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,120
just until recently, is that 
anytime you use them, you had to

1335
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,880
usually highlight first and then
write over top of it. 

1336
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,720
And I know that turned a lot of 
people off, but now I like can't

1337
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,720
stop talking about the serasa 
mark on pen that Zebra put out. 

1338
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,160
Yeah, that's my that's my go to 
writing pen right now. 

1339
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,600
Yeah, it literally solves that 
problem for mild liners, a 

1340
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,120
reverse engineering. 
They were like, oh mild liners 

1341
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,000
don't work with any of our own 
pens even it smears everything 

1342
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,200
and they're like how about a pen
that you can now use those with 

1343
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,400
and that now is the same for me.
It's my go to because anything 

1344
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,680
that I I want to do that, 
whether it is mildliner or a 

1345
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:38,640
highlighter or anything I 
despise, it makes me physically 

1346
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,680
gag whenever I like write 
something and then highlight 

1347
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,720
over with like a yellow 1 and it
turns out ugly muddy highlighter

1348
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,320
color and you're just like burn 
the book. 

1349
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,360
We don't need this anymore. 
That's so foul and grody 

1350
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:52,440
looking. 
I hate it. 

1351
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,960
But that is the only kind of 
regret that I kind of had to 

1352
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,280
using them early on was was 
that. 

1353
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,560
But now that they have this, 
I've used them a lot and I don't

1354
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,320
even show them in my bullet 
journal all the time too, 

1355
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,160
because I'll also just use it on
whatever I'm writing a note on 

1356
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,160
around here. 
It's just they're super fun and 

1357
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:09,240
versatile. 
I like them a lot. 

1358
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,880
Yeah mines literally getting 
used for desk decoration. 

1359
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,800
Looks very cute but I don't ever
take them out of the bucket, 

1360
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:19,520
especially because of the bucket
they're in to to to get pens out

1361
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,040
of them I would have to disrupt 
the rainbow and not about that 

1362
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:23,640
business. 
No, that took too long. 

1363
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,000
I mean, for me it wouldn't 
matter because I don't even know

1364
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,280
the rainbow color in the right 
order that they would need to go

1365
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:30,600
in. 
They all kind of look the same 

1366
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,240
to me. 
I mean, I will say the one thing

1367
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,560
that I do love about them 
though, even though I know what 

1368
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,920
you're saying here is they're 
one of the only marker brands 

1369
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:38,760
that actually have the color 
name on them. 

1370
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,160
So for me, I've also used them a
lot because a lot of them don't 

1371
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,040
have that. 
So I don't know the difference 

1372
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,920
between a lot of the yellows and
green markers and some of those 

1373
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,160
highlighter packs because they 
do look alike and the the 

1374
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,080
purples and the Blues like I 
talk about too. 

1375
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,800
I've always appreciated that 
they've always put the color 

1376
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,080
names on their markers because 
that to me means a lot. 

1377
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,320
I know that's probably a very 
sad, weird thing to do, but from

1378
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,720
a like, you know, accommodation 
standpoint for us Colorbind 

1379
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,760
float out there, it is 
definitely super helpful. 

1380
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,160
So I have another kind of 
affinity for them because 

1381
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,240
they're the only ones that were 
there for me when I needed. 

1382
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:12,160
Them. 
No, that's fair. 

1383
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:15,560
I mean, I'm not even colorblind.
I just find sometimes in certain

1384
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,120
pen brands, especially if 
they've got quite a large 

1385
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,000
lineup, if it doesn't have a 
number or a color name or 

1386
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,000
something like that, it's very 
hard to figure out which one is 

1387
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,520
which. 
But I don't think you'd really 

1388
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,440
be able to get away with using 
my ones because mine are 

1389
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,120
Japanese. 
So unless you're Japanese is 

1390
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,160
good. 
Yeah, they've got a name on it, 

1391
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:35,920
but it's like Mayurudo Blue kind
of a thing, and you have to be 

1392
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:37,120
able to read it. 
So like. 

1393
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,400
So I've had the same thing with 
the Serasa vintage ones. 

1394
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:44,120
Those are also I'm guessing in 
Japanese or whatever. 

1395
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,600
I actually use Google, the 
Google app with a translate with

1396
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,640
the camera and it scans and 
it'll tell me what color it is 

1397
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,880
and I will Swatch. 
And I actually keep a Swatch 

1398
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,000
with them. 
And I've labeled my pens too as 

1399
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,400
well. 
So I know what color they are 

1400
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,120
because a lot of them do look 
alike, like some of the vintage 

1401
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,720
Browns and Reds kind of in that 
space alike. 

1402
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,280
But I literally will use that 
anytime. 

1403
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,880
And then someone just told me 
about on Instagram the other 

1404
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,120
day, I was talking about this. 
She said that her husband is 

1405
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:13,080
colorblind as well, and he uses 
an app to identify colors. 

1406
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,880
So it's just on his phone. 
And if he's ever not sure, he 

1407
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,000
uses it. 
And I was like, this is genius 

1408
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,480
because you know how often I've 
gone, like shopping and I'll be 

1409
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,840
like, hey, you know, wife and 
kids, what do you think of this 

1410
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,120
shirt? 
And they're like, so you wear 

1411
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,920
purple now I'm like, this is 
clearly blue. 

1412
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,440
They're like that. 
That is clearly very purple. 

1413
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,720
And I'm like, OK, so I'm going 
to download this app and it's 

1414
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,080
going to help me live my life to
the fullest. 

1415
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,080
Now that sounds like a really 
cool accessibility tool, but 

1416
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,320
I'm, I, I enjoyed talking about 
this. 

1417
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,480
It made me feel slightly less 
bad about the things that I've 

1418
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,560
kind of bought into my stash 
that maybe I didn't really need 

1419
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,120
to have there or whatnot. 
And has also got me like really 

1420
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,920
motivated to do a declutter of 
my office to get rid of some of 

1421
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:54,880
these things. 
So not me at all. 

1422
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,400
I'm still, I'm gonna put these 
all right back in the same exact

1423
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:01,000
spot that I pulled them from for
this video because I could 

1424
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:05,160
never, ever get rid of things. 
Jess, I don't know who you think

1425
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,440
you are. 
Definitely not a planner pal if 

1426
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,400
you throw things away, that's 
for damn sure. 

1427
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,160
And it's OK if decluttering is 
your favorite sport, like me, 

1428
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,120
then it's fine. 
You can sit at my table. 

1429
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,280
And if you like hoarding 
everything and never getting rid

1430
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,000
of anything, you can come. 
Well, no, you're sorry. 

1431
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,400
You can't sit at my table. 
There's things on the seats in 

1432
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,040
the table you can stand around 
me. 

1433
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,440
Sorry. 
That's actually the the chair 

1434
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,160
for my emotional support. 
A fives. 

1435
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,280
You're not allowed to sit there.
They just hold that well, 

1436
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,160
Plenary pals, we'd love to hear 
from you on the regrets that 

1437
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,000
maybe you have. 
And again, those regrets don't 

1438
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:36,640
have to be things that you don't
love. 

1439
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:40,160
As you heard over and over 
again, not just for the safety 

1440
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,480
of cancer culture, but for the 
safety of just plenary pals 

1441
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,240
uniting all together. 
It can things that you love, but

1442
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:47,480
maybe just aren't feeling as 
well. 

1443
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,480
So if you're watching on YouTube
or you're listening on a 

1444
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,200
podcast, make sure to drop a 
comment and let us know what 

1445
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,880
those regrets are. 
You can also e-mail us Planner 

1446
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,560
Pals podcast@gmail.com and you 
can also visit us over on 

1447
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,760
Instagram at Planner Pals 
Podcast and drop a note and let 

1448
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,000
us know what those regrets are. 
All right, Jess, what are we 

1449
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,600
talking about next time? 
In our next episode, because we 

1450
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,680
are getting to the end of the 
year, we're going to be doing an

1451
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,600
end of year Planner Pals wrap 
up. 

1452
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,240
Having a look through what our 
kind of like best topics and 

1453
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,800
talking points were, the ones 
that resonate with you, the ones

1454
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:17,480
that were our personal 
favorites. 

1455
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,440
Just having a think about maybe 
where is the Planner Pals going 

1456
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:21,960
next year? 
What kind of things do we have 

1457
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,280
to look forward to and. 
This episode's going to be fun 

1458
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,200
too, because when it comes out, 
it will technically still be 20 

1459
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:32,800
and 24 for me, but it'll be 2025
for you on the release date, so 

1460
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,600
that's going to be even more 
cool about it. 

1461
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,320
This is what's so cool about 
having friends across the world.

1462
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,840
I'm looking forward to it. 
Hopefully you are too, planner 

1463
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,400
pals. 
But for today, thanks for 

1464
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:42,000
watching.
