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Ben, thank you for coming on the
University podcast. 

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So you are with Cursor and 
you're organizing the cursor pop

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ups, which should be pretty 
cool. 

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You want to tell us a little bit
about that? 

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Tell us about yourself. 
Yeah, sure. 

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Thanks for having me. 
So I'm Ben, I've been working at

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cursor for a little less than a 
year now. 

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And yeah, the, the pop ups, what
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started off with pretty, pretty 
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Cursor's office in San Francisco
is adjacent to a local cafe 

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called the Cafe Francisco. 
And I think I was just chatting 

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with someone on the team. 
And we just thought it'd be cool

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to like rent it out for, for a 
day and invite users to come 

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work from there and meet the 
team, meet each other, just 

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build stuff, get some, get some 
Cursor credits, get some coffee 

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while we're there. 
And, and we did that and I think

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people just got really excited, 
excited about it. 

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And then we did another one in 
New York and then we, we opened 

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it up for people to host these 
as well themselves. 

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And so I think about 1000 people
reached out within like a couple

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days of us posting about that. 
And now they're they're really 

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popping up all over the world, 
which has been cool to see. 

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That's awesome, and actually, 
how many places have you held 

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cursor pop ups? 
I think so far in about 10 

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cities, but that's a lot. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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But the pipeline, like there's a
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which is cool to see. 
That's great. 

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And logistically, is it just 
that you take over a cafe for a 

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day? 
What do you exactly do? 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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Signage. 
Yeah, yeah, we book out a cafe 

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like usually like a local 
neighborhood cafe. 

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We book it out for, for the day 
and we'll, we'll invite our 

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users to come and, and come, you
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half the day, the whole day. 
Some folks just want to come by 

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and drop in and, and yeah. 
And so it's like, it's pretty 

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temporary, but I'm hoping to do 
it like on a, on a recurring 

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And, and, you know, in some 

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places and you know, make it a 
place for, for, for cursory 

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users to meet each other, for, 
for a team to come by and have 

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kind of, you know, easy access 
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and, and meaning more of our 
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Yeah, actually, you know, we 
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going from pop up to permanent. 
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actually, I don't know if you if
you agree with this, but it's 

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surprisingly logistically 
complicated to do one of these 

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pop ups, right? 
Like, I mean, you can, the 

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simplest is you've just got a 
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know, you just say we're renting
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But then when people come 
actually, you know, I have a 

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guess, but I assume it's some 
fraction of support requests, 

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some fraction of just, you know,
feature requests or what have 

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you. 
And some fraction of I want to 

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just hang out with other people 
who are interested in use cursor

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and get tips and get better at 
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How would you say that breaks 
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like, you know, what kinds of 
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Yeah, I'd say all those things 
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I think people definitely have 
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improve cursor and they 
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share that with the team, which 
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I was surprised by how much 
folks also just want to connect 

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with each other and and see what
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And it ended up just being a 
great place for people to just 

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like hang out outside and kind 
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parties like even after after 
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for hours, which which is really
cool to see. 

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I think, I think part, I think 
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it was just attracting like, you
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people that are obviously like 
very hardcore cursor power 

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users. 
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people tend to like be 
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and, and have, you know, common 
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which has been fun to see. 
Yeah, I think, I mean, if you 

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know, somebody else is also 
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enough to come to an in person 
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somebody who's interested in a 
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that you're also interested in 
and so on. 

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So even if you cursors only 
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90% of the time that they're 
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with people who share their 
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interest A and they share 
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Right. 
And you know, tell me about the 

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logistics of it. 
How far in advance do you have 

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to plan these? 
Is it just as simple as getting 

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a restaurant? 
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my experience in doing these, a 
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You can get a restaurant, put up
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It's kind of built to do that 
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especially if there's 
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things people want, especially 
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that that becomes way more 
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have to have real estate lease, 
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stuff and whatnot. 
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thoughts on the logistics of it 
and maybe you have some some 

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idea or so. 
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longer than one day. 
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interesting and definitely 
challenging. 

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I mean, part of, I think the 
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trying to do this at actual 
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And so those places usually have
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And so actually a big part of it
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this makes sense to do. 
Interesting. 

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And you? 
Guys can just book them out, 

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right? 
Yeah, but a lot of places don't 

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want to do that because they 
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regulars to come and and we want
we, we usually have someone at 

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the door or, you know, someone 
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for, you know, can you check in 
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cursor. 
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having a lot of really funny 
interactions with people from, 

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from doing this a few times 
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just coming to my neighborhood 
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know, and then they were just 
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cursor and someone actually knew
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about this. 
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kind of see, see that happen. 
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pretty cool, cool about it and. 
Actually, so, yeah. 

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So how did you actually? 
It's interesting. 

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So basically that's interesting 
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sort of want a closed event kind
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friendly to that. 
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to host events, then people 
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going on? 
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that sucks, I can't get my cup 
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So there's some cost to their 
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So not all of them want to do 
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Is that kind of the? 
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these are these are now places 
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These are like these are just 
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Like I think that's what also is
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That's like, it's not doing this
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where there are meetups. 
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real neighborhood cafe that 
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and work and and like, you know,
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So we're we're trying to like 
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you know, more of the local, 
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And I think that's what actually
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That's interesting. 
So they're optimized. 

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So you've got almost a, the fact
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they're optimized for street 
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them accessible in the 1st 
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great event venue in that sense 
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to them. 
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stairs. 
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to get things on the street 
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So, so all of those things that 
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up location make it something 
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to be an event location. 
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Yeah, so. 
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That's why for for one day, it's
like it works well. 

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for a full week, how that would 
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I think that would be that would
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also come with like a bunch of 
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Yeah, let me show you. 
Let me show you some just things

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to contextualize what you guys 
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Maybe this is helpful. 
So this is a post that I wrote 

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called pop ups or the new 
startups. 

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And can you see the screen? 
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Yeah. 
So I'll share this link with you

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and let me explain. 
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what we're doing is printing out
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So here's you guys. 
Cafe cursor. 

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Can you see that on screen? 
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And then here is the clawed pop 
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about as well, right? 
Then I'll show you a bunch of 

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others that are in. 
So you guys obviously are in AI.

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Here's Angel List Founders Cafe.
So this is actually started off,

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you know, I'd written some 
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So Angel List actually did set 
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go and check out and you can see
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Yep. 
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there's Steve Jobs and Wozniak 
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This is base camp. 
This is actually Coinbase, you 

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know, CTO and Coinbase. 
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they ran recently, which was a 
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like devs would come and 
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mini village in like Vermont, I 
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OK, here's like AZ cash pop up 
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that I've got here and here is 
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called Zuzulu in Montenegro. 
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and and these are like, could 
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Do you see all those images? 
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And then here are what I call 
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So obviously, Elon's doing the 
Tesla diners, right? 

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We have network school, which 
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from, OK, which is basically 
really it's set up to be a 

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startup society that bootstraps 
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So like, think of it as a very 
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create more and more popups. 
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Texas, Elon's other, you know, 
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Kazakhstan. 
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that are opening. 
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these, not, not Tesla, not, not 
star base, not not yours, not 

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Claude, but 6 out of 10, The 
other six are crypto things that

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I was involved with in some way 
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financings in the case of Angel 
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And I think this is actually an 
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you're tapping into. 
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subterranean river and you you 
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from it because you found a lot 
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interested in coming to these 
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Perhaps, perhaps there's more 
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it is that would that be 
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Yeah, totally. 
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is the case is, as I called it, 
I think you're printing out the 

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cloud. 
So just to that metaphor, you 

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know, obviously you take a 
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but you also take like an Amazon
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out to your door. 
Or you have an Uber and you hit 

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a button and you print it out to
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So now we're taking the cursor 
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really what your site is set up 
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Because it's a very solo app, 
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dev sharing type stuff that you 
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Maybe there's something I think 
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really makes sense. 
Let me pause there. 

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That's kind of how I think about
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maybe like kind of the what, 
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longer, what types of types of 
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But I think there's definitely a
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demand for that. 
I have an idea for you, which is

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obviously a cursor. 
You've got SAS, you've got 

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credit cards, you've got 
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subscription behavior. 
So you could have a wait list in

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each city and if you get enough 
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physical part of the 
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I love. 
That, and this is what I call 

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it's a new SAS society as a 
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Ha ha, that's fun, right? 
I love that. 

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That's great. 
OK, so you you add the physical 

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component and you sort of 
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right and you have let's say 
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willing to add another whatever 
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just break even on these cafes. 
Yeah, frankly, actually Angel is

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just subsidizes it because it's 
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to Avlok, who's the CEO of 
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book, The Network State and so 
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of stuff. 
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Founders Cafe, he's like, you 
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ago, but we should have done it 
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He's like one of the most 
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the business because Angel List,
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investors, all these founders 
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ticket. 
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Angel list offices. 
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that you're welcome to hang out 
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single person there was an Angel
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alone was enough commonality to 
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Totally, Yeah, I think, I think 
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like some sort of status, I 
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exciting. 
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we've that we've done in, in, in
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really well is we'll, we'll pull
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and invite them. 
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know, simple e-mail like, hey, 
you're, you're in top 1% of 

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cursor users in in San Francisco
and use my time. 

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Yeah, just by like usage. 
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And and first of all, people 
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That's awesome. 
That's a great thought, yes. 

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Yeah. 
And so then and then people come

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and they're like, wait, I want 
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that probably draws people the 
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of like, I got to meet other 
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this much. 
I always got like really funny 

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responses to those emails that 
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Yeah, You know, it's funny 
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You know, an editor like, you 
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power user, right? 
And so I just get all the, I get

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the various AI things to work 
because you can have them with 

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the, you know, my, just my 
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I love cursor. 
It's great. 

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But basically like my, you know,
I've all Emacs key bindings are 

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there. 
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other Emacs people is that 
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Fu trick that I didn't know, 
like some keyboard, because like

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Emacs is like a whole operating 
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as you may be aware, right? 
And so there's always like some 

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little, oh, I'll take this 
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become stronger after that, 
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And not one in 100 people in the
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interest. 
But it actually is often those 

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three things I would get like if
I learned some new thing about 

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Emacs would be like worth 
another 1% productivity a day or

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something like that, you know? 
And so, so that's, that's like 

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the 1% cursor power users, 
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is around power usage. 
And they would all kind of share

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their number one tip or 
something like that, the thing 

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that made them super productive.
Yeah. 

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Totally, Yeah. 
I think like that's a lot of 

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that's happening organically. 
I wonder if, like there are 

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ways, I think hopefully in the 
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more of that knowledge sharing 
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people like, like one thing, one
example of that, that we've done

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that we haven't fully tied into 
Cafe cursor yet is we'll, so you

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know, in cursor there's like a 
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And so every every couple weeks 
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all of our most active tab power
users just like a little tab 

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key. 
They can like a branded tab key 

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they can plug into their 
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People love getting. 
People love getting, getting 

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that, and people do use it. 
But you like you like put a 

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sticker over your tab. 
Key. 

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No, I can actually I can show 
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share my screen? 
Yeah, yeah, you can do share 

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screen. 
Yeah, so well, you can't see the

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other side. 
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USBC thing. 
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So it's like an external tab 
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So it's just like a beep kind of
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Exactly. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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But it comes in like a really 
nice like box and, and it lights

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up and has like kind of the 
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And so we'll send that out to, 
to power users. 

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And so, you know, it's the kind 
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people excited to use tab more 
and like, you know, talk about 

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how they're using tab. 
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there's, I imagine there's ways 
that we could like tie that kind

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of thing into Cafe Cursor and 
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of this power, these power user 
conversations where people are 

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like sharing what's working well
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well, what like what their pro 
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Of thing, I mean, lots of people
have tried or conceptually some 

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kind of social network around 
prompts or what have you. 

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In part, a good chunk of my ex 
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social network around prompts 
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prompting is as broad as 
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buffer, you know, and the kinds 
of techniques people come up, 

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just crazy things that you 
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And you just see, you know, like
I'll give some examples like the

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role play prompts, right? 
Or the like. 

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I am a, you know, senior Erlang 
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the problem, right? 
Sometimes it's just that is just

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Larping but and it's just the 
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unlocks new vocabulary or new 
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prompted that way, right. 
So, you know, I wonder if you 

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could have, you know, maybe this
would be overkill, maybe people 

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wouldn't use it, but common 
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hotkeys and you have an 
external, you know, like the 

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numerical pad that sometimes 
they would they would hand out 

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right. 
So you have like a programmable 

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external pad. 
You go bap, bap like this for 

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the for the common prompts or 
what have you like you, you 

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might assign them for, you know,
Apple tried something like this 

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with their hot bar if you 
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discontinued. 
So maybe it's a bad idea, but or

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maybe the answer is you just 
actually. 

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Hot bar or wait Genius Bar? 
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There's a physical Genius Bar 
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I forget the term for it, but 
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sort of display bar above the, 
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Oh yeah, yeah, I. 
Forgot what it was called and I 

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but I, and it was programmable, 
but I actually never, it looked 

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really cool because like, wow, 
in Photoshop you can have a 

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button that does this. 
And in, you know, it, it was, it

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was similar to the concept of 
actually on an iPhone, your UI 

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is programmable, but it just 
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intermediate hybrid between the 
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know, So maybe the answer is 
just hotkeys. 

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So, and you don't need a special
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little dinky on top. 
I don't know, just an 

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experiment. 
Just thought. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Fun ideas. 

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I mean, a lot of lot of cool 
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So, OK, cool. 
So you have held pop ups around 

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the world and you're thinking 
about maybe doing some 

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permanence if you do the 
physical subscription, let me 

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know and we will. 
We will. 

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I'll definitely tweet that out 
and anything else people should 

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know about cursor pop ups. 
Anything else, I mean, if people

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are curious to like stay in the 
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cursor.com/community and you can
subscribe there to get updates 

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when we're doing these in new in
new cities, so. 

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Great love to. 
Yeah, for sure. 

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Oh, here we go. 
Cool. 

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Ghana, Mexico City, Stockholm, 
RIA, Toronto, Taipei, SF, 

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Ethiopia. 
Super super cool. 

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Upcoming cursor events. 
Very, very, very cool. 

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Yeah. 
And host Simon Luma? 

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Great. 
So, yeah, we, we, we also have 

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if if folks want to like help 
host these in cities where we 

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haven't come yet. 
Like, you know, this is this is 

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where people, people kind of 
kick, kick, kick that off and 

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can reach out to us to, to get 
involved. 

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And, you know, I think this is 
part of what I think makes this 

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really exciting as we want, we 
want to like do this together 

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with with our community and and 
we want folks to reach out, you 

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know, to our who are, you know, 
excited about this so. 

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Feel feel free to if you're if 
you're curious to learn more. 

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Amazing. 
OK, great. 

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All right. 
So thanks Ben and every check 

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out Kirsch community and come to
in the pop ups. 

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OK, thanks for having me.