1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,600 Mr Deans. Represents a clear and present 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,000 danger of national security of the United States. 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:15,240 You have no idea what Miss O'cala can. 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,480 Do hello and welcome back to the episodes 12 of Clear and Present 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:27,560 Dudes, the fast food slick ass Persian Bazaar movie podcasts 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,920 where tonight we are discussing 1990 twos A Few Good Men 7 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,640 directed by Rob Brenner, written by Aaron Sorkin, soaring, Tom 8 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:42,920 Cruise, Demi Moore, Kevin Pollack, Kevin Bacon, Kiefer 9 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,480 Sutherland, Jack Nicholson and some other people. 10 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,080 Yeah, awesome, right? Cool how we doing guys? 11 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,240 Living the dream, feeling really crappy. 12 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,240 I feel we're a real podcast now because we're doing an episode 13 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,240 when I'm announcing oh God, I'm so sick. 14 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,800 But we're still going to keep doing it because, you know, 15 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,360 because, you know, we're a serious podcast now. 16 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,040 Yeah, I feel like crap. And I've got like the death bug 17 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,760 that's going round. It's killing everybody. 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,680 I'm, I'm probably going to die in the next 7 hours, but you 19 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:14,000 know, it is what it is and I'm just standing on the wall and 20 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,720 making sure nobody hurts Demi Moore. 21 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,600 So. Yeah, I tell you what, I feel a 22 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,160 little bit like I'm in Guantanamo Bay. 23 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,360 The Guantanamo Bay can depicted in in A few Good men because it 24 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,680 is the 5th November. I live on the South side of 25 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,520 Glasgow and outside my window all I hear is explosion after 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,800 explosion after explosion all night long. 27 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,520 Cool. It's kind of, it's a bit weird 28 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,960 this we haven't got a we haven't got a bear in the dragon 29 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:39,800 anymore. It's gone. 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,400 It's done. I'm missing it. 31 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,160 I'm actually missing talking about like this. 32 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:50,240 Bizarre, terrible, horny, non credible techno thriller with 33 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:56,640 you guys definitely feel like feels like something's gone from 34 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,480 from my life or light has been extinguished out there. 35 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,520 What do you? What do you, what do you fight 36 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,600 another one? Used to be a favourite. 37 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,520 And just before we go into the actual movie, can you just say 38 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,240 the words Japanese sausage one last time? 39 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,080 Japanese sausage. Jade sausage. 40 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,080 Master sausage. Amazing. 41 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:18,040 Brilliant. OK, cool. 42 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,040 In the movie, right? Yeah. 43 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,120 So as I mentioned, we are discussing the almost definitive 44 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:30,680 military courtroom drama given to us by Rob Brunette, written 45 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,640 by Aaron Sorkin, adapting his own play that he'd wrote based 46 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:36,600 on apparently a real Code Red incident. 47 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,600 Apparently Aaron Sorkin's sister was a Navy lawyer and she told 48 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,200 Mel the case. I don't know how professional 49 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,120 that is. And he wrote a award-winning 50 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,120 Broadway musical about it and how professional that is, which 51 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,960 is then turned into this movie. Tremendous success, $243 million 52 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,760 worldwide. Obviously one of the definitive 53 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,280 Jack Nicholson performances, even though he's only in it 54 00:02:58,640 --> 00:03:00,160 relatively small amount of runtime. 55 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,600 A bit of a serious actor making performance for for Tom Cruise 56 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,400 alongside like born the 4th of July and that and also tell me 57 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,080 more getting some proper acting chops in having to work her way 58 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,080 around that Aaron Sorkin dialogue. 59 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,240 A man who I've described recently as the thinking man's 60 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,600 Joss Whedon, not because of his sexual propriety, which I don't 61 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,080 believe there is any, but just that that very fast-paced 62 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,160 dialogue that he's famous for. So. 63 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,800 Impropriety. What's your what's what's your 64 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,640 experience of the movie? Did you had you seen it before? 65 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:40,080 We did it this week. I saw years ago, like years ago, 66 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,560 I think this was like literally one of those like washed with 67 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,800 your dad in like the mid 90s kind of films up there with 68 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:50,640 things like, you know, no way Out, etcetera. 69 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,480 I forgot how good this film is. When this film goes hard, the 70 00:03:54,480 --> 00:04:00,920 writing is incredible. I've rarely been so excited by a 71 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,200 film that's got so much non-stop banter in it. 72 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,360 I think we've all taken shots at films that have been a bit kind 73 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:13,040 of banter overload before, but unashamed to say that dialogue 74 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,920 in this film sparkles at some points and it's just, it's just 75 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,839 so witty. It's so sharp. 76 00:04:19,079 --> 00:04:23,840 It's like welcome back banter. All is forgiven for now. 77 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,560 Excellent. Yeah, we'll definitely get into 78 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,680 some of the banter scenes as we go through and especially as we 79 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,240 start to talk about quotes in the movie, because this whole 80 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,720 movie is eminently quotable. I say that a lot. 81 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,400 But this is as a guy who's going through a bit of a West Wing 82 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,880 marathon at the minute because, you know, hope and everything. 83 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,880 Yeah. Like, yeah, it's just, it's, 84 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:49,680 yeah, very much soaked in that world of of fast-paced, witty 85 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,840 dialogue where everyone is incredibly, sparklingly witty 86 00:04:52,840 --> 00:04:55,240 and nobody says a Duff line. Yeah. 87 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,560 Fantastic. Sonia, have you seen the movie 88 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,080 before? Yes, I think that's actually the 89 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,080 fair time I've watched it. I am ruining Ruin though, 90 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,480 because I've come to, well, I've done law school and the Navy's. 91 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,320 I just enjoy it though. It's so dramatic. 92 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,000 It's so over the top. Well, we're going to have to 93 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,120 come back to you for some some legal opinions as we go through. 94 00:05:18,280 --> 00:05:20,600 I'm assuming that you obviously you did law school. 95 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,240 I'm not sure you've been like a trial lawyer, but. 96 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,840 No. And I'm sure the German legal 97 00:05:26,840 --> 00:05:30,320 system is probably a little bit different from the situation of 98 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,840 Tiny, but we. We don't even have we don't even 99 00:05:32,840 --> 00:05:38,640 have have military courts really like we we do not their their 100 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:43,320 civilian. So we, we don't get like people 101 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,760 in uniform yelling at each other. 102 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,440 They want the truth. Unfortunately, I, I, I feel like 103 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,960 I would enjoy doing that to, to a good handful of people at the 104 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,960 moment. Well, regretfully. 105 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:59,000 Do you still have like, do you still have like a trial by 106 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,960 combat when when you're assigned champions will go and chin each 107 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,720 other in the town square? It is. 108 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:10,160 It is common for for your CEO's to just be randomly shipped off 109 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:16,160 to Nuremberg. I think, I think Rory was going 110 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,000 for reference to the life and death of Colonel Blimp. 111 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,280 Maybe that? Yeah, but I was just calling for 112 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:22,480 life and ethnic little blimp reference, but of the old final 113 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:27,680 make home bus. Honestly, I wish we had. 114 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:33,280 I would have. I was tempted to challenge my 115 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:35,480 last CEO to a duel. Repeat. 116 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,760 So fucking. I would be on board with that, 117 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,800 but unfortunately I think it would mostly count count as 118 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,600 assault and damage to government property. 119 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:51,400 So we've got a whole e-mail inbox if you want to egg Sanya 120 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,960 on to challenge various members of his chain of command. 121 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:02,280 Do dual and this emails at. Cleararentpresentdudes@gmail.com 122 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,120 Excellent. And I suppose while we're in the 123 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,680 the plugging mood, yeah, thank you for everyone who's so far. 124 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:14,280 Please subscribe if you can, if you haven't already, like drop 125 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,080 comments, all that good stuff. Please, please, please. 126 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:22,000 We've kind of plateaued with our with our listenership, which has 127 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:27,640 hit a steady about 20. That's not quite true. 128 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,560 Got got 23 on YouTube, 60 on Spotify. 129 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,320 So that's, you know, about thirtyish. 130 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:38,680 Although we are, we are, we are expanding the countries of our 131 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,600 user base. Recently welcoming listener from 132 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,120 Uzbekistan, which I think is pretty cool. 133 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:51,000 You know, we're on worldwide. Have we collected all 5 boroughs 134 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,800 of New York City by the way? Yes. 135 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,360 Well, I haven't. No, we haven't. 136 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,040 We are still outstanding Manhattan and Staten Island. 137 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,720 Right. First we take Manhattan and then 138 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,440 we take Berlin. How do you get on it? 139 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,320 It's. Brilliant. 140 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,920 I mean, we all, we already have a platoon. 141 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,600 Yeah, we do. And it's already international, 142 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,800 so. Basically the Foreign Legion. 143 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,880 An international brigade of just the best people in the world who 144 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,160 are interested in the weirdest podcast going. 145 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,120 A strange, toxic yet occasionally engaging, sometimes 146 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:37,480 funny mix of defence, film, nursery and absolute weapons 147 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,960 grade militarised autism. So let's talk about the movie 148 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,520 then. A Few Good Men 1992 is the story 149 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,640 of a Navy lawyer, Lieutenant Daniel Caffey, played by Tom 150 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,520 Cruise, who's known for quick plea bargains and he's getting 151 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:57,800 assigned to defend 2US Marines bans corporal on a private who 152 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,040 have been accused of murdering A fellow Marine at Guantanamo Bay, 153 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,160 leaving as most of the story. Lieutenant Commander Joanne 154 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,720 Galloway, played by Demi Moore, and Lieutenant Sam Weinberg, 155 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,000 played by Kevin Pollack, joined Cathy to uncover whether a 156 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,720 clandestine disciplinary order called a good Red ordered from 157 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,000 the top brass has taken place and is responsible for the 158 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,240 death. What ensues is a courtroom 159 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,560 showdown with Base Commander Colonel Nathan Jessup, played by 160 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:25,760 Jack Dickerson, exposing a clash between following orders and 161 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,120 following conscience. Shall we watch the trailer? 162 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,200 Yeah, let's watch this trailer. You pretty pretty good trailer. 163 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,640 I'm going to I'm going to say it wasn't as good as the trailer As 164 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,960 for for Unstoppable, but. Was unreal. 165 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:47,040 I'm I'm actually in, it's an interesting way just how how 166 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,760 much of the kind of climactic moments of the film, this trail 167 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,320 I just kind of gave away. It's almost like, I mean, this 168 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,160 is back in a time where I suppose you could give the the 169 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,720 film watching public a bit of credit and go if you this guy's, 170 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,640 I mean, the movie starts with Tom Cruise desperate to avoid a 171 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,760 courtroom. We know he's going to wind up in 172 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,960 a courtroom like and you have to and you have to sell the movie 173 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,720 Jack Dixon and most of his scenes take place in the 174 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,160 courtroom so that. Is true. 175 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,320 I mean otherwise you're going to have like what scenes of Jack 176 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,680 Nicholson in his BDU is just talking trash in his office? 177 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:27,760 Or scenes of Jack Nicholson smoking a cigar and getting 178 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,640 waited on next to his cushy villa on the base. 179 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,320 I was, yeah. Right. 180 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:34,560 Yeah, I'm. Looking. 181 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:39,560 For those five guys 1300 feet away from those 4000 dudes, it 182 00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:41,120 is. It is a villa with his 183 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:47,280 manservant. Yeah, yeah, Big oh big up shader 184 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,120 fucking staying in a hotel in Cyprus. 185 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:54,520 Energy, yeah. It's big fucking Roman centurion 186 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,120 energy. It's like energy. 187 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,160 It's like it's just like it's a tail as well as time. 188 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,640 Like again, 3000 years ago, this thing probably happened with 189 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,520 like some like legionaries killing some of that dude. 190 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:14,480 So Oh my God, who, who, who, who, who ordered the deservation 191 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,680 of this one particular fucking. They go around and this is like 192 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,960 like high rank and legionary God, like listen, son, 193 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:28,880 surrounded by slaves and stuff and like, listen, these these 194 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:35,440 these Britons that are rub 50 leagues away from me with that 195 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,000 pointed sticks. I'm riffing. 196 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,960 Well, Sonia does what I know he's doing, by the way, and we 197 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,560 stand on this wall. Legionaries can't handle the 198 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:47,600 truth. You. 199 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,360 Need me on Hadrian's Wall? You need me on Hadrian. 200 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:55,800 'S. Wall. 201 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,880 It's like. You need me on the lemurs. 202 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,280 Hey, we'd better put some camouflage jackets over you. 203 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,000 Why? Oh well, you know the, the the 204 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,800 ancient Britons will say your fucking lower cast segment Tata 205 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:14,960 and they'll think you're somewhat to throw Spears at. 206 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,360 OK, get in, get in, get in the 2000 year old Humvee and we'll 207 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:24,880 and we'll bool along. I'd say I kind of vibes off him. 208 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,880 All the while he's saying I'm the most badass ally tip of the 209 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,760 spear bloke. It's like you've got a fucking 210 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,920 manservant. You're in the fucking, you're in 211 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,200 the Caribbean. You know he. 212 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,000 Wishes he was Colonel. Kurtz He wishes. 213 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:43,080 He wishes he'd gone downriver and gone insane. 214 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:48,600 You know, like it's like this. This film actually shines a 215 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:54,240 light on just how kind of Kush being posted like a nice place 216 00:12:54,240 --> 00:13:00,400 is, I think, because people seemingly will do anything to to 217 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,520 like underline how badass and tough it actually is. 218 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,000 Like, Oh my God, I'm up against these Cubans and the point and 219 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,200 guns at us all the time. And there's all these never been 220 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,960 fucking documented instances of Cubans threw up killing 221 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,440 Americans and got to keep those guns up guys. 222 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,760 And, and it's like, well, it's, I mean, it's you make yourself 223 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,520 look like it's really necessary that you're there and you're 224 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,280 doing a bad hard job because the alternative is you got sent to 225 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:27,560 Greenland or something like that. 226 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:32,160 So it's like. There's there's always like the 227 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,920 Super over eggs kind of security brief you'll get when you arrive 228 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,480 in theatre. And then it's like right now 229 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,360 you've been through this, the security brief, which has like 230 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,840 video footage of people lobbing fire bombs at each other and a 231 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,040 blow whipping out a shotgun on the on the on the motorway and 232 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,560 stuff. That's a Jay with the I watched 233 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:51,760 once on arrival at the Bahrain and it's like right, cool. 234 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,120 When you want to go after this, you want to go to Scan Alley, 235 00:13:54,120 --> 00:14:00,080 then go to the pictures. Scan Alley, I love it. 236 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,120 Yeah, gosh, brilliant. Yeah, it's this one St in in 237 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,520 Bahrain right next to the American base, which is just 238 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,160 like full of like five guys and like and like 3 guys, which is a 239 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:15,040 different local knock off. That's incredible. 240 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:16,600 Yeah. That's austerity. 241 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,400 That's austerity in action. Yeah, so they shouldn't. 242 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,280 Have done for for something like 5 wives or something that would 243 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,560 have been OK. Wow. 244 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,200 No, I'm not doing the cultural sensitivity brief today. 245 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:36,000 Thank you. Brilliant. 246 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:43,880 This movie, right? It starts with some very funky 247 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,080 arms drill by the US Marines. Yeah. 248 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,360 So what do you guys think of? Think of that with the. 249 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:50,920 I like that with the music and everything. 250 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:55,560 Very, very fancy. It was done by I noticed 251 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,400 creditors actually took a picture on the screen. 252 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:04,480 I noticed that in the credits, this this incredibly Ally arms 253 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:11,160 drill, which was so frigging cool, was performed by this name 254 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,880 was an absolute mouthful. The association of former fish 255 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:19,560 drill team members of cadets at Texas A&M University. 256 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,560 Brilliant. Giggum go Aggies. 257 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,200 Nice. Because we see that a little bit 258 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:31,000 and then the next thing we see is the crime in question, which 259 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,640 is the cool red being done on private first class moving in 260 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,680 Santiago by his two oppos. It looks really brutal. 261 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,640 They cut before it gets probably bad, but you know, they seem 262 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,960 like duct take his mouth shut and shove the rag down his 263 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,680 throat and all that kind of stuff. 264 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,160 Pretty grim. And then it comes back to the 265 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,760 the drill team. And then we first clap eyes on 266 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:55,840 Demi Moore as Lieutenant Commander Joanne Galloway, the 267 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,080 Jag Corps, as she just kind of walks right through where 268 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,760 they've been marching. Yeah, which is a little bit in, 269 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,640 in. Where did she come from? 270 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,600 She emerged from the tree line and was walking across the 271 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,760 fields. That's how you summon that. 272 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,960 That's that's how you summon a. Unique drill circle to summon 273 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,720 that. Marching bands. 274 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,480 And then next for the tree line, a bit like M Night Sherman's the 275 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,000 village in reverse, but we want to get her out of the tree line. 276 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,720 That's since what she's she's the the what the senior counsel 277 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,040 to the Bureau of Internal Affairs or something cool. 278 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,480 She's muttering to herself about how she wants to get a 279 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,680 particular case. She's she's on her way to a 280 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,320 meeting with a with A4 ring captain and she's kind of saying 281 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:45,960 she's like trying to rephrase a sentence to herself. 282 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,560 And she's also really nervous. She's like I, I believe it is I 283 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,960 who should be assigned to this. I I think that given the 284 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,040 seriousness, it, it ought to be me that is the one that is 285 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,400 assigned or is gets the assignment to. 286 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,200 And she like, can't find a sentence to say. 287 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,120 Yeah. And then she's yeah. 288 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:05,520 But that's what's her little journey. 289 00:17:06,599 --> 00:17:12,040 And then we cut to our boy, the son and Daniel Cathy, Tom 290 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,560 Cruise. And he's playing softball. 291 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,560 And it's it's Tom Cruise doing a sport. 292 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,400 What do you what do you think of Tom Cruise doing a sport right 293 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:27,520 away? Against some, against some deja 294 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,960 vu, because we talked about this the last episode as well. 295 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,560 I, I don't, I don't fully believe was a sportsman. 296 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,200 I don't think any of us truly, truly believe this man as a 297 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,680 sportsman. There's an element of not quite 298 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,560 full kit wanker, but he's certainly got like top half up 299 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,920 kit wanker energy because he's he's got he's got a little got a 300 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,640 little baseball cap on Boston Red Sox. 301 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,200 Something that I noticed was whole scene was just how at 302 00:17:55,200 --> 00:18:00,480 times he really reminded me of Schmidt from New Girl. 303 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,080 Yeah. Dialogue in that little 304 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,560 sequence, something about like the way he kind of carries 305 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,040 himself as well. There are moments in this film 306 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:15,000 when he has this like level of schmittiness, this like kind of 307 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,320 this points when when when the role could have been played by 308 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,600 Max Greenfield for at least some of the film. 309 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,360 Man. Can you imagine actually? 310 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,080 Great casting. What if? 311 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,560 Imagine if that movie was made like 20 years later. 312 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,200 Pick New Girl era even now actually. 313 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:36,880 Pick New Girl era. Yes, we could even have Zoe 314 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:41,320 Deschanel in Can, Can you? Imagine. 315 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,120 No. That's rude. 316 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,040 No, no. Just try the whole thing. 317 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,800 Oh. No, but no bug screw for that 318 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,120 would be awesome man. Yeah, man. 319 00:18:48,360 --> 00:18:52,200 Then we come back to Tim Moore and she's in her meeting with A4 320 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:57,600 Ring Captain Jack Guy and he's they've taken delivery of the 321 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:02,600 case notes for the the case, which is Lance Corporal Dawson 322 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,000 and Private First Class Downey, U.S. 323 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,000 Marines who have been charged with the murder of Private First 324 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,640 Class William Santiago. They've brought in Danny Moore 325 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,120 into the office because she's a really good investigator and 326 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:16,520 she's called the case and she's really passionate about trying 327 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,080 to sort out these these code red things. 328 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,800 But everyone's been very ginger about it because they're all 329 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,360 scared of the absolute shitstorm it's going to bring up Because 330 00:19:28,360 --> 00:19:30,960 the commanding officer of the base down there is tipped to 331 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,880 become the new, you know, director of operations for the 332 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:39,360 National Security Advisor. So it's a political minefield. 333 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:44,160 Then she finds out it's going to although dunk dunk Cathy, who we 334 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,560 just saw with his careful attitude in his desire to get a 335 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,840 plea bargain and his absolute allergic reaction to attending a 336 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,800 courtroom. Dan Caffey generally thinks he's 337 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,160 the shit and he's been picked for this case because he's so 338 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,840 good and doesn't yet realise that he's actually just being 339 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:02,680 picked for this case because he's proper Rouge and and and 340 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,800 would not dare take it to trial. Yeah. 341 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:08,800 Cool. What do you think of what do you 342 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,360 think of our cast so far? Sonya pop in first. 343 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,560 Wading into a really seeming hot water here. 344 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,960 Just saying that I think I am generally not all that much of A 345 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,880 Tom Cruise fan, but I think you really fixed this one. 346 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,160 Yeah, that's pretty common for you these days, isn't it? 347 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,120 Let's talk about Tom Cruise, show about it. 348 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,720 Let's talk about Tom Cruise for a minute, OK? 349 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,920 Yeah, let's do this. So. 350 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,880 He is actually really good on this film. 351 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,600 Yeah. About 1/4 way through the film, 352 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,160 I thought this is a this is a Tom Cruise all timer as far as 353 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:48,520 performances go alike like the subtleties of even things like 354 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,920 his facial expressions, his reactions, especially, 355 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,800 especially in the scene when spoilers, because it's a spoiler 356 00:20:54,800 --> 00:21:00,000 cast when he when he just rage baits Jack Nicholson into 357 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,440 admitting that he you know, or add the code red, the look on 358 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,000 his face together. A couple of you got away with 359 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,520 that kind of thing. The reactions, the facial 360 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,080 expressions, it's it's really good. 361 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:16,080 I hate that performance of his. In my opinion, it's one of his 362 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,800 best. Probably controversial, but it 363 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,120 is what it is. Yeah. 364 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,920 Should we, should we address the Tom Cruise of it all? 365 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,880 So I totally agree with you, Roy. 366 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,440 I think, I think he's really, really good in this role. 367 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,720 Yeah. I, I will say now, opinions 368 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,800 obviously vary about the guy. A lot of speculation about his 369 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:39,280 personal life and his contract on set sometimes as well. 370 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,920 We all remember during COVID when he had that missive 371 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,680 blowout, do I think it was the first dead reckoning? 372 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,560 They were filming at the time and he and he had that whole big 373 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,640 crash out and it was recorded because people weren't masking 374 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,720 up properly on set and stuff and he was kicking off about it. 375 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:53,960 Remember that. This. 376 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,960 No, I think I missed that crash out actually. 377 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,640 We could always drop a clip of it in. 378 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,320 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll find a cut for it and put 379 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,160 it in. We are the gold standard. 380 00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:07,080 You're back here in Hollywood making movies right now because 381 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,880 of us, because they believe in us and what we're getting. 382 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:17,200 I'm on the phone with every studio at night, insurance 383 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:23,680 companies, producers, and they're looking at us and using 384 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,800 us to make their movies. We are creating thousands of 385 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,240 jobs. I don't ever want to see it 386 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:37,280 again, ever. Obviously. 2005 The the hopping 387 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,440 on the sofa, yeah. Yeah. 388 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:45,800 The Katie Holmes stuff, obviously his kind of early 389 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,120 foray into into Scientology, which I think it was a Mimi 390 00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:51,440 Rogers thing. I have to double check this. 391 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,440 I don't want to get in trouble, but I think Mimi Rogers is what 392 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,720 got got him into it. And then he then he got out of 393 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,360 it with Nicole Kidman, I think. And then he got kind of dragged 394 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:02,440 back into it even deeper, like the Godfather part three kind of 395 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,120 thing. And then, yeah. 396 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:08,960 And then and then since then he's kind of like kind of had a 397 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,920 weird passo in his career. At this point, though, he's 398 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,520 doing some really good stuff. So at this point, it's great. 399 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:19,880 Tom Cruise having done like the kind of early like cocktail Days 400 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,160 of Thunder kind of rules where, yeah, he's got like good people 401 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,640 around him in supporting roles, people like like Robert Duvalls 402 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,200 and and and Days of Thunder has a relatively minor role, but 403 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,640 he's a like good like mental character. 404 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,520 Top Gun. He's got Tom Skerritt there 405 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,080 seasoned all director kind of helping along in a mentoring 406 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,040 role. Now we're getting to the point 407 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,440 in his career, I think, where he's starting to do like 2 to 2 408 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,320 with like these giants and he's got to act as much as they could 409 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:48,760 act. He's kind of been a bit like, 410 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,720 I'm not talking, obviously what he does is difficult, but he was 411 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,120 kind of a pretty face in like in like Top Gun for a lot of it has 412 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,920 a couple of emotional scenes, but he's he's mainly a pretty 413 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,120 face right at this point in his career now he's doing he's done 414 00:24:01,120 --> 00:24:03,800 stuff like I think born the 4th of July, he's like 24. 415 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,720 I think he's done this the next year. 416 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,000 He's got the firm with Gene Hackman. 417 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,400 Yeah. So he's coming against. 418 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,160 He's like Titans. And this is a really good 419 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,080 example of that with with Jack Nicholson, like incredible 420 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,880 performance, incredible performance of Jack Nilson. 421 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,320 And yet and yet, like Tom is like there with him, like 422 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,320 holding his own, I think. Totally. 423 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:31,320 The the scene when he's at the base at the, I'm going to keep 424 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,480 calling it the villa because it looks like a villa. 425 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,400 You know what he's having is when, when, when he's been 426 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,520 invited to be flexed at. Colonel Nathan R Jessup. 427 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,240 Colonel Nathan, Nathan R Jessup. Yeah. 428 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,080 And this one, Jack Nicholson basically invites him was flex 429 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,720 off and. And you know that he's like kind 430 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,920 of that flex on him because he's already halfway through a badass 431 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:55,440 dip when he arrives, found a piece of white cloth and he's 432 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,320 surrounded to ACNN news team. And I was like, oh, there you 433 00:24:58,360 --> 00:24:59,200 are. The guy I've been trying to 434 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,960 humiliate. And yeah, in terms of acting 435 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,880 like, yeah, he's he. He matches them blow for blow. 436 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,120 It's really good chop for chop. It's excellent. 437 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:14,520 Nobody seems out of out of the league in that whole scene. 438 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:18,320 Yeah, yeah. This movie's quite so people who 439 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,200 I think who haven't had necessarily the the credit for 440 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,400 being great actors prize this movie. 441 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,400 I think really to step up and give the regame. 442 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,960 I think there's there's a couple of people I think are maybe 443 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,160 slightly wicked on this and I think their careers have borne 444 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,920 out in that in that way, unfortunately do still do good 445 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,600 work in this movie. And I do believe them. 446 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:37,760 But I think they do stick out a little bit. 447 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,320 I think, I think, I think our two defendants, I think Wolfgang 448 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,880 Butterson as, as Harold Dawson is maybe outmatched a little 449 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,840 bit, has a bit of a got a got a weird energy from him. 450 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,280 Apart from the bit where he doesn't salute and put his hands 451 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:53,320 in his pockets. That's brilliant. 452 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,280 He does that, He sells that. He says that so well. 453 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,680 That was absolutely class that was meant. 454 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,800 Yeah, he's really good. At that, yeah, that that was, 455 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,240 that was a nod to the real defence heads and the whole 456 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,000 marines can't put their hands in the pockets kind of thing that's 457 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,920 constantly beamed upon, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, really good. 458 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:20,160 James Marshall is Private Loudon Downey, who people may know more 459 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,360 for being James. He's called James Marshall in 460 00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:26,120 real life, James Hurley in Twin Peaks. 461 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,040 I think he's somewhat out of his depth as an actor. 462 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:36,920 Unfortunately, in this movie it helps his character is like very 463 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,840 simple. Yeah. 464 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,480 I mean, I was going to say thick as men's for very simple. 465 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,960 Yeah. He's he, he, he is not a smart 466 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:46,440 man. There's. 467 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,240 A There's a there's definitely a there's definitely a deleted 468 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,280 scene where he's got like a packet of crayons for a snack. 469 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,320 In he's he's he's skating close to like simple Jack. 470 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,560 Everybody else, though, stepped up. 471 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,040 I think so. Kevin Bacon, Jack Ross really 472 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,360 good performance believable unbelievable as this this Marine 473 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:11,840 will heart goals still fiercely. I get a very good Kiefer 474 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,680 Sutherland as as as Kendrick, second left second Lieutenant 475 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,160 Jonathan Kendrick, by the way, so pretty, pretty junior 476 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,200 officer. Absolute absolute psychopath. 477 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,240 Corn fed, corn fed psychopath like. 478 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,000 Unsettling performance. Unsettling performance. 479 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,560 Genuinely terrifying. Sutherland there and safe. 480 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,000 The Sutherland DNA is strong in that performance. 481 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,200 Yeah, if if, like you get the vibe from him that if he wasn't 482 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,640 an officer in the US Marine Corps, he would be making a use 483 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,480 of himself in someone's Police Department. 484 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,600 Yeah, yeah. Really bad. 485 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,440 Really bad. He'd be very much a turn off the 486 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,160 body Cam and then do horrendous things kind of guy. 487 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,080 Yeah, definitely, Definitely. Yeah. 488 00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:00,040 You see him take a set against Dan Caffey when Jess spells a 489 00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:05,000 story out about how his father, like, I thought his name Lionel 490 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,600 Cafe, I think his name is his dad is. 491 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,080 Yeah. His dad was a a litigator who 492 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,360 went down to Alabama and then and then won like a serious 493 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:16,960 civil action about allowing like, integration in schools. 494 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,880 Yeah, that was it. And then that. 495 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,640 And that's what sets keep his own off against him. 496 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,960 He's like, oh, oh, you come down to my Alabama. 497 00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:27,720 They want to mix my schools. Well, I'm a horrible racist who 498 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,720 loves the Bible. Coming to my house in to create 499 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:40,880 my schools or be a racist. It's it's it's pretty much says 500 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:46,120 the quiet part out loud. And he is just a horrible, nasty 501 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,400 little Christian nationalist kind of guy. 502 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,480 He's the kind of guy who would hopefully get flags like 503 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,600 extremism in in today's woke military. 504 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,480 Hopefully. Probably not. 505 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,920 See JT Walsh as well. Brilliant. 506 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,720 JT Walsh was Lieutenant Colonel Markinson. 507 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,080 Andrew Markinson. Yeah, Andrew Markinson. 508 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,240 So he's he's the one that was a contemporary of Jessup's and 509 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,240 they get outpaced. Is now serving as EXO at the at 510 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,320 Gitmo. He's brilliant as well. 511 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,680 I think he has a very, he's got a very small role. 512 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,280 Yeah. But holds it with like a real 513 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,880 quiet dignity. He does. 514 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,200 And you can see like, right when people talk about, we use words 515 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,160 like honour and code when you talk about the actual honour and 516 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,920 the service values of, of what the US Marine Corps is probably 517 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,920 meant to exemplify when it's not being perverted by the likes of 518 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,640 Jessup, like like JC Walsh's character. 519 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,400 It's like what you expect it to be like these professional, 520 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:52,160 competent, you know, men who and women, but who who you know, 521 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,400 have these these set of values and and live by them. 522 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,400 And the fact that he had like kills himself out of out of 523 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,520 because he's dishonoured himself by participating in the cover 524 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,840 up. Yeah speaks well and we've got 525 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,160 Sheila Gooding junior Yeah, as a corporal call Hamaker. 526 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,200 He's only in like 1 scene and it's just like for a split 527 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,120 second you're like, you probably should have been, you probably 528 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,760 should have been Dawson if we're being real, like in terms of 529 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:21,400 quality of actor, but but then the. 2nd, you can guarantee 530 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,040 there would have been a discussion, a discussion at the 531 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:29,080 like the kind of producer level of are we going to cast a man 532 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:35,000 called Cuba to act in a major role in a film that's partially 533 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:40,360 set in Cuba? And there would have been a like 534 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,560 a literal discussion of is, is this going to make our film look 535 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,280 silly? Well, they cast America Ferrera 536 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,640 and Barbie, and a lot of that takes place in America. 537 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,160 But these are things we know now in the enlightened 21st century 538 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,560 man the main characters. Navy guy whose last name is 539 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:03,000 Coffee. Oh my God, yeah, it's the whole. 540 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,640 Thing is a cliche. That's right, of course he's 541 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,480 homeboy, so swagger around with a German word for coffee is his 542 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,480 handle. So yeah. 543 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,920 Very good. Probably the weirdest 1 is 544 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,960 Christopher Guest. Is Doctor Stone the the Doctor 545 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,560 in charge in Gitmo? Yeah. 546 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,360 From Spinal Tap and and went for government and everything. 547 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,920 Obviously, obviously Rob Renner was like, have I got a row for 548 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,800 you? Is it is it funny? 549 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,880 I don't know. Is someone drowning in the blood 550 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:38,000 in their own lungs funny? No, like it. 551 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:42,360 Yeah. Awesome. 552 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,160 Yeah. That we took it was too little 553 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,160 break there to talk about all the cast in great detail. 554 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,560 We can skip that category now. Cool. 555 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,200 Right. Yeah. 556 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,640 OK, so let's, let's go ahead a little bit. 557 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,440 So there's a little bit of an R about who's going to take the 558 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,920 case and what they're going to do. 559 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,000 They go to Cuba to to do a little bit of investigating. 560 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:08,800 And we see that Cafe, despite his best intents, he, he doesn't 561 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,920 really, he doesn't want to take the case. 562 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,640 He, he doesn't want to. He just wants to brush it away 563 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:19,280 like everybody else does. He's intimidated by Jessup and 564 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,200 he's not got the instincts to be a good investigator yet. 565 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,480 And you see that when they go and like do a tour of his, his, 566 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,920 his, like, I want to say Mystic, his, his cabin, I guess his 567 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,200 cabin. And they're looking like 568 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,920 obviously the crime scene, they're looking at the crime 569 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,480 scene, looking through stuff. We see some important stuff that 570 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,120 comes back later in the movie, but you got a lot of you got a 571 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,440 lot of verbal back and forth between Kathy and and Galloway 572 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,480 Galloway saying like, are you actually going to do any 573 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,120 investigating while we're here? You're just going to take the 574 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,400 guided tour. Big big fan of that big fan. 575 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,720 The the scene I want to talk about, which we've talked about, 576 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,560 like you've you've mentioned like a handful of times already, 577 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,600 is the villa right? The the opposite, the club under 578 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,400 their special alawning and the officers mess. 579 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,160 That that that dinner where he's like holding court like a 580 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,000 fucking like a fucking tutor king. 581 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,720 Basically, like everyone, everyone comes to the Nathan 582 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,520 Jessup lovin while I talk bullshit and everyone does a 583 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,360 career laugh around me. I fucking hate that he's awful 584 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:23,160 and he's he's horrible and he and he says that disgusting 585 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,400 thing when he's trying to undermine Galloway. 586 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,560 So halfway through. So Galloway keeps trying to push 587 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,960 for from her invasion. Kathy is like desperately trying 588 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,200 to de escalate it because he doesn't want to piss anybody 589 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,480 off. So several times he's like, no, 590 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,800 we're not, we're going to go. She's just one of, it's 591 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,000 charming, just one of her quirks. 592 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,760 She asks questions that she doesn't want the answer to. 593 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,000 Let's go, let's go, let's go. And then and then Jessup does 594 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,640 that whole like, I just realised she outranks you. 595 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,640 Oh, you're lucky there, kid. And it's been a horrible thing 596 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:58,280 about how great it must be. Yeah, that whole thing I was, I 597 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:03,320 was talking with with my wife earlier on, not about this scene 598 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,440 specifically, but we're talking about the concept nowadays about 599 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,280 what movies can it wouldn't get made today and what things would 600 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,840 be different. And if they made this movie, I 601 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,239 think this year, this scene probably wouldn't be in it 602 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,080 necessarily. And it's not because it's a bad 603 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:19,920 scene. I think it's a really good 604 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,760 scene. I think it's because depending 605 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,719 on who made the movie, I guess people aren't necessarily as 606 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,159 comfortable about talking about this kind of stuff anymore. 607 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,440 Yeah. There's a big push online of 608 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,520 people who are like, overly online to online, you might say, 609 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:42,239 who don't want to experience art or the world in any kind of way 610 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,480 that makes them feel uncomfortable. 611 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,040 Yeah. I'm not going to say because of 612 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,760 woke, right? That's not what I'm getting at. 613 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,199 That's that's not what I'm that's not what I'm getting at 614 00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:55,560 right. But but there is, there is a 615 00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:00,040 certain amount of like of of like thickening skin that may be 616 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,600 required by some people out there who I get, I'm going to 617 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:05,800 get on my soapbox a little bit here. 618 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,000 I get really, I get really like, I get yeah, because I get really 619 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,960 annoyed right about people. You see, you see on a lot of 620 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,200 like YouTube content and over short form content on on on the 621 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,200 Internet. Well, people don't use the word 622 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,080 like killed anymore or committed suicide or anything like that 623 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,800 because they're afraid of offending somebody. 624 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,120 These concepts exist. These things happen. 625 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,400 The world doesn't have to be comfortable for you. 626 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,560 Like like the world is out there. 627 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,680 Terrible things happen everyday. If you want to lock yourself in 628 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,280 a bubble in your own house, then, you know, go with God. 629 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,520 That's that's on you. But but the rest of the world 630 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,960 doesn't need to moderate its language around you, like, like 631 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,800 to walk on egg shells because because it might make your 632 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,720 single individual experience a bit different. 633 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:54,320 Like, like the world wasn't curated for you as one, you 634 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,080 know, as one person. You know what I mean? 635 00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,200 Just really pisses me off that there you see that kind of 636 00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,280 stuff. It's like, fuck me, man. 637 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,360 Like people get killed, right? OK. 638 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,840 And like, no, no, no, no, no. They get analysed now we can't. 639 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,640 No, yeah, that's what I'm saying. 640 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,560 So yeah, I saw a video the other day about, I swear to God, I was 641 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,840 watching a video on YouTube and it was about, it was about 642 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:22,920 Wolfenstein the New Colossus, the 2019 video game where you 643 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,320 plays BJ Baskowitz killing the fuck out of a shit tonne of 644 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,400 Nazis, right? Yeah. 645 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,120 And the guy on the video, I swear to God, does not say the 646 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,520 word Nazi once and kept saying tyrants. 647 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,000 And I'm like, good. Grief thought that is crazy, 648 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,840 man. Why do you even want to fucking 649 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,360 talk about it? You know, I see what I mean. 650 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,880 I mean our our, our ancestors. Not specifically your Sonya 651 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,720 Didn't, didn't, didn't, didn't spend years battling against 652 00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:51,960 Moustache Man until he unlived himself in the Moustache Man 653 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:57,240 bunker for nothing. You know, No, it's, it's, it's 654 00:36:57,240 --> 00:36:58,800 wild. I've actually heard this like, 655 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,320 like like I've heard of an actual quote, quote history 656 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,680 content on YouTube that uses the phrase moustache man instead of 657 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,320 Hitler. And it's like, yes, he isn't 658 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,960 fucking Lord Voldemort. He's not coming back. 659 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,360 If you mentioned his name, he's not fucking, he's not fucking 660 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,080 Beetlejuice. He's not he's he's he's, he's 661 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,720 not the candy man, he's not the bye bye man. 662 00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:21,000 Jesus, imagine that. I was like, Oh my God, guys, 663 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,840 I've thought about Hitler and he's back. 664 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,480 Isn't it? Yeah. 665 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,400 Is he but? God damn. 666 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,720 Yeah. So that that that whole 667 00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:31,880 sequence, anyway, I think it's a really good scene in the movie 668 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,160 because it shows you what a a vulgar, crass, horrible, yeah. 669 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,800 Despicable old dirty man. Yeah. 670 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,520 That that Jessop is behind the veneer of him being a highly 671 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,840 decorated officer. Like, and the veneer's pretty 672 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,720 thin as well, isn't he? Pretty thin, I mean. 673 00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:49,760 He's got, he's got no respect for anybody. 674 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,160 No, not at all. And, and it's a significant 675 00:37:53,160 --> 00:38:00,000 amount of it is bluster and it's it's he's honestly, he acts like 676 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:05,880 he's in a pivotal role to defend society against the hordes of 677 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,480 Barbarians. And he's like a few hours boat 678 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,880 away from Florida. He's like, yeah, he's like a 19 679 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,160 miles away from the like fucking Miami. 680 00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:25,000 Yeah, like, like it's like you shit little man, for for for 681 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,960 some reason you're in this position when you can just say 682 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,680 shit that would and should be absolutely career ending if that 683 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:37,160 was ACNN camera team and not a cinema camera team, you know 684 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,160 what I mean? And it's like, this is crazy, 685 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,960 man. He's he's, he's a horrible 686 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,080 little bollocks, basically. He's horrible about he's. 687 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,000 A horrible little bollocks. You know, like he's a fucking 688 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,520 nasty little testicle of a man. Yeah. 689 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,000 And all it does is through his way around. 690 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,960 There's the there's the scene prior to that where they're 691 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,960 talking about when they're in his office and they're talking 692 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,320 about whether to transfer Santiago away. 693 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,240 And he gives it the whole big spew of like, I think we have a 694 00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:12,200 responsibility to train him and blah, blah, blah. 695 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,360 Well, that's not what you mean. Yeah. 696 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,480 You don't really think of a responsibility to train him 697 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,320 because you've already made your mind up that this guy is 698 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,200 unsalvageable as a Marine because he doesn't fit your 699 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,360 particular like in what you think a good Marine is. 700 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,560 And plus, I wanted them, didn't they? 701 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,840 Because he was like, it was the whole thing when he was going to 702 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,600 rat, rat them out to the NIS. That's right, yeah. 703 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:42,200 Because they're being like an unauthorised shot fired in the, 704 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,840 in the Cuban territory. And he's like, I'm, I'll tell of 705 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:53,640 you, I'll get you done. Surely the Cubans themselves 706 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:59,160 would be like, hi, one of your guys just fucking shot at us. 707 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,320 Sort it out, you know, throw it out, you slags. 708 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,600 Like it would be difficult to kind of cover this up if there 709 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:12,840 was an actual literal fucking. Gunshot fired towards what they 710 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,160 say is like the mirrors, isn't it? 711 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,040 Say it's like like like the like equivalent opposite number card 712 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:22,400 posts. So it's like you know, and it 713 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,320 isn't like open dagger to discharge desktop. 714 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,280 Sorry boss. It's he was specifically 715 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,520 claiming that he thought he was getting aimed at before. 716 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,680 He was getting into and he found an aim shot in retaliation. 717 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:38,800 Yeah, right. I mean, we don't we don't get 718 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,360 into this in the movie. And the one thing I will say 719 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,160 before we we get it like right, the civvy audience listening to 720 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,280 it will be we won't be able to make a reminder. 721 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,800 I think about what we think about. 722 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,960 It's it's implied that it's a big no, no. 723 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,120 Obviously to automatically firing a shot into Cuba is 724 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,520 pretty, pretty fucking bad. What we don't know though, is 725 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,240 actually the the are we enforce for them at the time. 726 00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:04,800 And I haven't really thought to look it up, to be honest. 727 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,440 The general rule of thumb is that the American IOE is a lot 728 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:15,040 more liberal than ours. And especially yours, Sonia, I 729 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,760 think, I think, I think yours and ours are pretty restrictive. 730 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,480 I think NATO as a as a as a body is extremely restrictive. 731 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:23,640 Yeah. All right. 732 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:28,200 So going on in the background, I suppose with all this is Dawson 733 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,920 and Downey don't trust a Cathy at all. 734 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,720 Cathy, really for the first hour of the movie, Kathy's not 735 00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:39,560 popular with anybody. He's he's a bit full of himself, 736 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,760 a bit slick. And yeah, he's also not sure if 737 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:49,000 he wants to take the case and there's an inciting incident 738 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,240 that makes him take the case. Basically, the arraignment is 739 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,720 set up to happen and you and the night before the arraignment is 740 00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:58,960 the big decision point about how Kathy's going to plead on behalf 741 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:03,360 of his defendants, which is a bit weird by the way, one that 742 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,400 the defendants don't enter the room plea. 743 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,440 I don't know how accurate that is for the American military 744 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,720 courts. That's not how we do things 745 00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:13,080 here. But but it's mad that he's 746 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,800 waiting till the night before the defendants have a right to 747 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:21,240 determine what their plea is. Surely very strange that they've 748 00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:23,640 just let their hands be like their fates be in the hands of 749 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,120 this one guy who they don't even like. 750 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,120 I mean, there is, there is, there is. 751 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,200 The separate bit that I think is it Downey has actually taken 752 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,680 Galloway on as council just so that she can be part of the team 753 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,360 essentially. Yeah, because. 754 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,880 Because. Because his Aunt Ginny wanted an 755 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:40,680 Aunt Ginny. Yeah. 756 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,960 Yeah, and then, but then she says, like, I'm not going to 757 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,480 rock the boat. You can remain as lead council, 758 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,200 which is why you've got a Senate commander with much more 759 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,520 experience working for the nine months in Lieutenant. 760 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,080 Very odd. Anyway, the 56 minute point of 761 00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,560 the movie, right? Galloway is trying to convince 762 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,680 Kathy to enter a not guilty plea so these guys get their day in 763 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,200 court and can actually argue a case even though they think 764 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,160 they're going to get beaten. And she does this by going, 765 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,600 Kathy, you're the only one who could do this. 766 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,960 You know how to win. And we need a lawyer who knows 767 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,360 how to win even though he's never been in a courtroom. 768 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,320 And for the previous 56 minutes, all she's been doing is talking 769 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:27,640 smack about him. OK, Then 40 seconds later, when 770 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,040 Kathy's humming and horror about it, he goes, she goes, you know 771 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,320 what? You don't know a thing about the 772 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,000 law. You're you're an ambulance 773 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,320 chaser. You're a used car salesman with 774 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,280 a rank. It's like, make your mind up. 775 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,640 Demi Moore. Do you like it? 776 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,720 But do you think he's the best lawyer who can only win this 777 00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:44,960 case? So do you think he's an idiot 778 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:45,960 who doesn't know anything about the law? 779 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,080 Like, I understand that she might even like to manipulate 780 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,320 him to try test his ego a bit. But. 781 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,240 But yeah, it kind of works though, so. 782 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,400 So she obviously makes him feel a bit like shit after insulting 783 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,760 him like that. He goes away, has his long dark 784 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:00,680 tea. Time of the soul. 785 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,720 I think you see a bits of the montage at the start of the 786 00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:06,640 trailer. And then the next day, they go 787 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,040 to the arraignment, enter the plea, he enters that they're not 788 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,760 guilty. Like, sort of like begins in 789 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,560 earnest, doesn't it? And it begins when the, when the 790 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,520 prosecution calls all of the platoon. 791 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,560 Yeah, individually, yeah, yeah. So you got that, you got that. 792 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,800 So you get that change. You get so you get the change in 793 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,920 in. This is good actually. 794 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,800 So this is I think this is like the dividing line between the 795 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,080 first half of the movie, The second-half, first half is all 796 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,800 the set up and you get all the character beats and the 797 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,040 character build up. And then once that arraignment 798 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,680 happens, you get the switch. Kathy is like, right, we're 799 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,560 going to work from my place every night from 7:00. 800 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:49,000 One of my favourite lines in the film, something that I've 801 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,000 wrestled with a little bit today. 802 00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:54,960 The only thing I have to eat is you who and Cocoa Puffs. 803 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,720 If you want anything else, bring it with you and say right. 804 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,240 Going to say it now, man, I'm a dirtbag. 805 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,080 I'm I'm I'm, I'm the kind of human being who would literally 806 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:10,440 say it as someone all right now is generic cereal and generic 807 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:16,840 flavoured milk is what I assume you who is right and say nobody 808 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:21,160 who is in a life situation when all they have is you who and 809 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,440 Coco Puffs is is a lawyer at all. 810 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,560 None of these people exist. These people don't exist. 811 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,960 This is stealing, stealing scumbag valour, right. 812 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,640 Like I, I, I mean, it's Oh yes, it's funny. 813 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,760 He's he's he's quirky, but it's like, no, when, when, when 814 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,560 you're in that kind of position, you're fucking giving up. 815 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,480 You know what my giving up asked? 816 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:51,200 Fucking dirtbag world. I'm the kind of horrible flesh 817 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:56,640 golem that could exist on cereal flavoured milk if I had to. 818 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,720 I don't have a high flying job that requires a huge gravement 819 00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:03,240 like you. Like being a lawyer, if you were 820 00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:07,280 sick existing on literally nothing but sugar and like and 821 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,680 like chemically processed milk that's probably got lead in it, 822 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:15,080 you'd see him take like 2 swings with his little bat and just 823 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:21,640 fall over in in exhaustion. I am not having this slander 824 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:27,400 against stay at home sons like me who worked years to to to 825 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,920 suffer the slings narrows of existing on food that's just 826 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,040 consumed for novelty. No, no garbage film. 827 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,280 Oh man. Fuck off with your Yukos, you 828 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,360 lying liar you. Lying liar. 829 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,680 Oh, I was worried I didn't get a chance to use the Pants on Fire 830 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,600 defence. Oh man. 831 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,120 Hey, let's take a moment to talk about our friends. 832 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:04,640 Simon Weinberg, played by by Kevin Pollak, because he he gets 833 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,000 a difficult job in this movie as being kind of the the third 834 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,760 wheel, occasional quick giver kind of guy. 835 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,120 But he gets but he gets one really good scene, which is that 836 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,400 he has a moral compulsion against against daughter and 837 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,160 Tony. He doesn't, obviously, he's a 838 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,920 Navy lawyer. He doesn't agree with the Code 839 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,640 Red thing. He's not a fan of hazing 840 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,440 rituals, doesn't like bullying in any of its forms. 841 00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:37,880 You know, I agree. And he is not keen to defend 842 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,240 these guys and doesn't understand why they're doing it. 843 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,840 And he has an opportunity to get out the case. 844 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,240 He's put on the spot as to why he did it. 845 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,000 And he's like, because they picked a little guy, you know, 846 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,800 they took the guy what, because he couldn't run as fast, 847 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,960 couldn't run as long and they took this guy and they beat him 848 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:59,320 up for it kind of thing. But he he stays anyway. 849 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,920 But I just wanted to, I just wanted to highlight little Kevin 850 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,640 Pollack there because he's brilliant and fact for the movie 851 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,200 that was going to be cast by guess who Jason Alexander was 852 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:18,240 initially cast for that role could have been George Costanza, 853 00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:20,280 but he had to pull out because of Seinfeld. 854 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:29,560 Jesus, there is, you know, a kind of there's kind of a little 855 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:34,160 bit of energy about him, though, when he's like don't have to do 856 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,960 a thing, you know, don't have to do anything. 857 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,880 So if you go there, don't do anything kind of thing that's 858 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,240 that's actually a little bit of Costanza in that that's that's 859 00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:47,720 scary prescient. Oh my God, I am really sorry. 860 00:48:47,720 --> 00:48:50,800 Now I'm just absolutely just recasting all of the pivotal 861 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,160 characters with the same forecast. 862 00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:57,480 So of course you've got Jerry Seinfeld himself playing Kathy. 863 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,560 You've got. Elaine. 864 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:13,160 Elaine, get out. And of course, the role, the 865 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:19,280 role, the role of. Justin Chester is Michael 866 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,280 Richards. No, no, I think it's I think 867 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,160 it's Newman. I think it's, I think it's weird 868 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,520 nightmare. I think it's win night. 869 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:35,000 Just sitting there in his in his greens, with his big cigar, just 870 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:41,040 with his with his storm and Norman physique, just telling 871 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:46,160 tales about Desert Storm to Jerry Seinfeld, who for some 872 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,360 reason is the trying to make him believable. 873 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,720 The trying to pass to make Jerry fucking Seinfeld believable as 874 00:49:55,720 --> 00:50:05,400 anything other than a comedian. Oh my God. 875 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,640 And then cream Alex, just like I said. 876 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,280 Oh cool rat. It's a great right? 877 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,480 I think it is Kevin Bacon's character. 878 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,720 Yes. I mean, I'm going to fucking put 879 00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:19,240 him somewhere. It's either that or he's one of 880 00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:20,960 the two killers. Well, I was just. 881 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,280 I said that was one of the two killers, which would be even 882 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,680 harder to process. So yeah, he's yeah, he's the 883 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,040 Kevin Bacon guy. Oh my God. 884 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:36,160 Or is or is the is is is the second Lieutenant is the Kiefer 885 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:36,840 Sutherland. Geez. 886 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:42,640 Oh, God. Yeah, man, horrendous that this. 887 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,640 Is now a vote racist? Vote racist? 888 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,600 Oh. My God, just probably unsubtle 889 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:54,680 about it. This is just straight up fan 890 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,440 fiction at this point man. This is like. 891 00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:03,640 Where's J Peterman? Oh my God. 892 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,440 Is that Markinson? Maybe J Peterman? 893 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:10,160 Oh yeah. Just isn't the GTA wash rule. 894 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,080 I knew your son. Well, vaguely I I heard his 895 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:20,080 name, but I falsifies that transcript. 896 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:26,200 I knew what I had to do with Elaine you. 897 00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:32,200 Can always be Burma to me. I hope you're watching the court 898 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:38,200 case because I'm only watching the Passion, Right. 899 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:39,960 Sorry. Yeah, right. 900 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,200 Yeah. Case has started there. 901 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:51,000 The government is claiming that Kendrick specifically given an 902 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:56,600 order to everybody not to touch Santiago at the same time 903 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,360 Santiago had been granted a transfer from the base. 904 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,320 It was due to leave on that transport at 6:00 in the 905 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:09,960 morning, which is when they say the first flight out of Cuba was 906 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,400 was taking place. So they've they've already lied 907 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,360 by saying that that is the first flight when actually it was 908 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,920 nearly a flight. There's a second lie in that 909 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,080 that flight they said he's going on to didn't exist. 910 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,680 They lie about the order not to touch him being given. 911 00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:29,360 I think maybe, yeah, potentially. 912 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,800 No, that one's true because everyone, everyone saw it. 913 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,000 What they then lie about is that Kendrick then give a separate 914 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:41,480 order to Lance Corporal Dawson, not down as we lay here, Lance 915 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:46,360 forward with Dawson alone to do the code red on on Ballina 916 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,520 Santiago. So what we see at the beginning 917 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:53,200 of the case is testimony that the order not to touch Santiago, 918 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,960 it's taken place, which isn't disputed. 919 00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,600 And then the next thing we get is the expert testimony of 920 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:05,280 Christopher Guest from Smile tap as the doctor about the medical 921 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,400 condition. And we find out and it all gets 922 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,040 stricken from the record. Basically, there's a there's a 923 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,840 lot of like little wins that they have and lots of losses 924 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,760 they have. They have a bit of a draw over 925 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,440 the, over the, the testimony of everyone saying that the order 926 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:22,000 had taken place and they kind of call it for the day and we come 927 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,800 in the next day. The, the medical stuff is very 928 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,920 much a win for the prosecution and a big defeat for the, the 929 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,760 defence. So what happens is they, they 930 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,000 kind of badger the witness a little bit. 931 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,200 They they get the one thing that they needed quite early on, 932 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,440 which was could the lactic acidosis which caused the the 933 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,800 blood to pull in his lungs have taken place without a chemical 934 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,960 poison inducing it, which is what is claimed by the 935 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:48,680 prosecution, could have taken place without the poison if they 936 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,040 had an underlying medical condition. 937 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,160 And does the underlying medical condition it would have taken 938 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,080 place match the symptoms that Santiago had been presenting 939 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,320 with? They got that bit done quite 940 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,120 early and they should have just left it there. 941 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:04,000 But they keep badgering about like trying to get the doctor 942 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,640 himself to say that he has given a lower standard of care to 943 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,840 Santiago. I had personally fucked up and 944 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,160 because they pushed a little bit too far, they eventually got the 945 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,360 whole thing stricken from the record, which is a big, big loss 946 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,240 for the defence. And that's a bit of a movement 947 00:54:19,240 --> 00:54:21,240 for them to kind of re evaluate. Yeah. 948 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:27,640 So the next bit that happens in the case is they get Kendrick on 949 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,240 the stand. Yeah. 950 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:35,400 Kendrick is a safeguard lunatic and they get something pretty 951 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:41,000 important out of it, which was that a previous could read had 952 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:45,160 taken place. Although they don't get they 953 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,800 don't get into the record that it's formally known as Code Red, 954 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,160 even though even though they describe it is very much like 1. 955 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,320 I think it gets objected against and they and they and they get 956 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,680 sustained. There's a shit to no objections 957 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,080 in this movie, by the way. I don't think real court, real 958 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:58,200 trials have this many objections. 959 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:04,160 I mean, I just want to hop in here and say Sonia is the one of 960 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:09,560 us with the most legal training, I guess maybe the only one of us 961 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,280 with. I mean, you've probably had some 962 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,880 trainer obviously make, but Sandy did go to law school. 963 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,040 Not legal training. Yeah, but yeah, you've, you've, 964 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,800 you've sat on. So basically our, our, our court 965 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:25,480 experience so far as I've been sued successfully. 966 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:31,680 I was, I was out of suit. I'm a divorce court warrior. 967 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,200 Meg, obviously you've you've been involved in a court 968 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,520 martial. But that's yeah, that's that's 969 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,480 that's a legal one. And then the non legal version 970 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,360 of it is some rehearings which have, yeah, I've been in charge 971 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,720 of several times. I mean as, as, as, as a baby 972 00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:49,240 journalist and the student journalist. 973 00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:52,080 I was in court a few times in the mags and in the Crown Court 974 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,320 in, in Newcastle, which was really funny. 975 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,160 Mainly actions. That was pretty, but it was 976 00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,760 pretty hilarious. But Sonia is the one who's got 977 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,800 actual actual law school experience. 978 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,680 So Sonia, how is all this stuff playing out here like in the 979 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,560 film? Is this is, is this, is this 980 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,000 cool? Or is someone with legal 981 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,040 training? Do you find this? 982 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,640 You find this not believable? I don't even know where to start 983 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,720 with this because honestly, the, the I could start by hating on 984 00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:27,160 the French, which is always a good thing to do, but English 985 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:31,120 and American common law is very, very, very distinctly different 986 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,760 from anything we do on the continent and especially so in 987 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:38,160 Germany. So in, in all honesty, the, the, 988 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,680 the most accurate answer I could give you is I don't fucking 989 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,160 know. To be honest. 990 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:51,240 We don't do like jury trials as I mean, we, we, we didn't really 991 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,720 happen have. You have you seen the movie 992 00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:56,000 Anatomy before? No. 993 00:56:57,240 --> 00:56:59,120 Oh man. So it was like 2 years ago, I 994 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,720 think it came out and it's a, it's a French German 995 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:07,360 construction about A, and I think it's actually in French 996 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,600 and German, but I think they, I think the trial happens in 997 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:16,440 France anyway, a couple, the husband from a man and wife 998 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:22,760 falls out of a second floor window from the house, which is 999 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:28,840 currently like in getting done up into the snow outside and 1000 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:33,520 bricks and neck and dies. And we see that happen. 1001 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,120 We don't see, we don't see the fall happen. 1002 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,560 So we don't know what actually happened, whether he's pushed or 1003 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,800 he fell or whatever happened. But we do see the trial. 1004 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,480 But the trial's all done on a French court. 1005 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,440 And it's so different to like anything that Rory, you would 1006 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:51,520 have seen like, like it's, it's, you know how in a, in a, in a 1007 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,520 court, like, like in this, you have a, a witness pro on the 1008 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,000 stand. They get an examination from the 1009 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,560 prosecution, a cross examination from the defence, the 1010 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,560 opportunity for the prosecution into a rebuttal to anything 1011 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,720 raised. And then it moves on kind of 1012 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,080 thing. Nowhere anywhere near that, that 1013 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,000 level of organised. It's like they bring a person 1014 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,600 onto the onto the stands and then we just have a frigging 1015 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,200 argument for 20 minutes and the judge and the judge goes right. 1016 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,080 I'm tired of this next one. Just just a big like my lawyer 1017 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:25,120 is going to shout at your lawyer and just like, and then I'm 1018 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:29,120 going to chip in occasionally and and like and like people, 1019 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,600 people can just see people are always arranged in a semi 1020 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,520 circle. People get called upon to yell 1021 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,280 at any time they want. It's just mental. 1022 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,960 Actually amazing. It's a great movie. 1023 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,320 It's a great movie that the the court case bit only takes up 1024 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,200 like a small portion. They do have like like 1025 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:45,600 testimony. They do have proper testimony, 1026 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,960 like the witness comes up and just give like testimony and 1027 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,920 then and then is is grilled. But it it's it's weird. 1028 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:57,160 It feels so much more like flowing in a way that than than 1029 00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,360 the British courts. Mental ania, check that out. 1030 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,680 We also don't get funny little wigs. 1031 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,360 Yeah, yeah, that's right. So the guy's got a robe on, but 1032 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:08,920 he hasn't got a funny little wig. 1033 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,800 He's got like a, a crew, like a short crew cut hair and then a 1034 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,920 then a cool little robe. Wild. 1035 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,800 So we've had the end of the case and we get we get Kendrick up. 1036 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,080 He he gets his cross examination and then we kind of find out the 1037 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:25,360 background a little bit for this. 1038 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,920 So an important detail. Lance Corporal Dawson had been 1039 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:34,800 previously punished by Kendrick for defying an order and the 1040 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,400 order for him was morally incorrect and him through his 1041 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,400 own personal judgement made a moral choice to defy that order 1042 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,240 and showed moral courage in doing so. 1043 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,880 A guy had been punished by being restrained into his barracks 1044 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,640 with only water and vitamin pills and then Dawson gave him 1045 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,320 food and then was punished for giving him food. 1046 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:58,720 So very important background to demonstrate his what we call in 1047 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:03,680 the British legal system. But in Latin, the men's rear the 1048 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,240 state of mind in order to carry out the crime. 1049 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,280 So obviously we've we've seen that from that, from being 1050 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,560 punished for defending someone doing the morally right thing. 1051 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,600 He got punished. So when he gets into the order 1052 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,440 to do something morally reprehensible, he's more likely 1053 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,640 to follow it. That happens. 1054 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:26,280 We have a whole cool bit where they talk about Code Reds and 1055 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,960 whether or not Code Reds exist. And Kevin Bacon gets all the 1056 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,160 different like Doctrine publications out and goes like 1057 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:33,800 show me in here where it mentions Code Red. 1058 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:35,320 Show me here where it mentions Code Red. 1059 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,400 And then you see like Tom Cruise win that one by going to new bar 1060 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,040 and go show me in here where it says where the mess hall is. 1061 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:43,480 And it's like, well, you won't find out in there. 1062 01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,880 It's like, well, you're telling me the entire time you've been 1063 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:47,840 in Guantanamo Bay, you've not had a single meal. 1064 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,520 It's like, no, Sir, 3 square a day. 1065 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,760 It's like, well, how did you get to the metal? 1066 01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,160 I just followed the crowd at chow time and. 1067 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,960 It's like. Nothing further. 1068 01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:58,280 Boom. Brilliant. 1069 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,400 That's a good move. It's like so theatrical how 1070 01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:05,040 Kathy just, like, walks out and just takes the book out of Kevin 1071 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,240 Bacon's hands as he approaches the witnesses. 1072 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,840 Like, yeah, that's trying to cool. 1073 01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:12,240 That was. That's mad swag. 1074 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,480 It really is, yeah. It's really good. 1075 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,880 They get they get one really big set back and this is like the 1076 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:26,320 sort of end of the second act. SO11 sort of founding basis for 1077 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,840 their case that they've that they haven't even queried in 1078 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,960 their research prior is that both Dawson and Danny received 1079 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,120 the order at the same time in the same place to to collect the 1080 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:41,640 code read and then it through cross examination of God of 1081 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,840 Downey, Downey's understand and it's Kevin Bacon gets out of 1082 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,200 Downey that actually due to a flat tyre of the Jeep that would 1083 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,080 get him back to his barracks in time. 1084 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,840 He had to he had a run back. He was 45 minutes late and 1085 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,200 therefore was not at the location at the time that the 1086 01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,960 defence has alleged that the order to give the code red was 1087 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,520 made which was 5 minutes after the 1630 finishing briefing. 1088 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,000 That he would have arrived back after like 1700 and and would 1089 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,360 have missed that order for Dawson and Downey together could 1090 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,040 not have received the order to give the code red. 1091 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:18,040 Once Corporal Dawson gave Downey the order, laid the order to 1092 01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:23,000 give the code red which is that big like oh we fucked up moment. 1093 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:29,040 The second one is Markinson, who's who's come out with the 1094 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,480 road work once the trial begun, has an attack of his conscience 1095 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,920 and decides to end his own life before he can take the stand. 1096 01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:41,880 So that's that's that fucked. So this is this causes like the 1097 01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:43,040 team to have a bit of a crash out. 1098 01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,360 Tom Cruise gets pissed. What do we think of what do we 1099 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:47,640 think of Tom Cruise's drunk acting? 1100 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:50,560 Had some thoughts on this actually. 1101 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,960 You guys want to go first before I bring my opinions in on it? 1102 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:55,800 No. Please proceed. 1103 01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:00,840 It doesn't appear to be really drunk at all. 1104 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,720 There's no kind of slurring of words. 1105 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,520 There's there's there's like a bit of like a dissent admission, 1106 01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,640 but he doesn't appear to be drunk at all. 1107 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:11,400 But it's also not shitty. It can be so worsted kind of 1108 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:15,160 kind of drunk acting like it's not flopping all over the stage 1109 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,440 kind of thing. It's it doesn't look especially 1110 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:22,320 believable, but it's not the worst I've seen. 1111 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:28,480 But like, yeah, I, I guess my thoughts were it's like, I don't 1112 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,040 think Tom Cruise drinks. That's what I was going to say. 1113 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,440 Yeah, I don't think he drinks at all. 1114 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:39,280 And when you look at drunk acting by, I'm just going to 1115 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,280 quickly slow things down because I want to get this guy's name 1116 01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,240 absolutely right. So when? 1117 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,560 So when you see John Dunsworth in Trailer Park Boys, rest in 1118 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,120 peace. John Dunsworth gone through soon 1119 01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:56,480 as Mr Leahy. That's an incredible drug, 1120 01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:01,480 acting a man at the end of his rope, a man who's absolutely 1121 01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,640 lost in the sauce. He didn't drink. 1122 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,920 He was a tea toler. Yeah. 1123 01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:15,040 I mean, I am the liquor, Randy, you know, like, hey, hey, hey. 1124 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:18,000 He's a tea toler. Tom Cruise, I think is probably 1125 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,760 never, like, allowed alcohol that touches, touches mouth. 1126 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,920 I don't think as a person, Tom Cruise has ever really been 1127 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,840 around people who have probably drunk much because it's like, 1128 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,000 OK, Tom, you've got to be a drunk guy. 1129 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:38,440 OK, So I'm, I'm, I'm just a bit off kilter and I'm a bit wet 1130 01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,720 because it's been raining. This is what drunk is, right? 1131 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,760 I mean, like, I mean, like, I'm the fact that I have to have an 1132 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,840 actor say you're drunk or something to that effect. 1133 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,160 And then he pulls out a fucking bottle of bourbon and it's like, 1134 01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:57,560 yeah, it's like, no, it's not. It isn't the worst drunk acting. 1135 01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:02,320 It isn't comically bad, it's just not really believable. 1136 01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,120 And he also drives drunk as well immediately afterwards, which 1137 01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,520 isn't cool by the way. That's really not cool. 1138 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,920 Yeah. Yeah, arrive alive, dude, you 1139 01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:14,640 know? You get the impression that his 1140 01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,440 frame of reference for drunk people is drunk people. 1141 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,600 In the films. He's kind of, he's almost 1142 01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:24,040 mimicking a little bit of that. I mean, do me wrong, he doesn't 1143 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,120 live like like a shut away. He's oh. 1144 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,280 Absolutely, yeah. He's been asked in public and 1145 01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,760 seen people having parties and drinking before, you know, like 1146 01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,520 you're not naive to that. Yeah, but but yeah, you do get 1147 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,280 the impression that he doesn't surround himself with, with 1148 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,600 drinkers, isn't a drinker. I think, I think for him, I 1149 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,600 don't want to speculate on the man's inner psyche, but but 1150 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,360 going off stuff he said in interviews and stuff, he I don't 1151 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,440 he believes in medicating in any way whatsoever. 1152 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:53,600 And I don't think he would like to rest, like to divest control 1153 01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,360 of his own faculties to, to a, to a, to a substance. 1154 01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,680 You know, you remember that Ty Reidy did on God. 1155 01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,880 I don't want to get this wrong, but I think it might be 60 1156 01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,480 minutes or something when he was talking or he had an interview 1157 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:09,600 where he was talking about how he he really disagreed with 1158 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:14,600 Brooke Shields medicating for depression and. 1159 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:16,680 And that's I'm. Getting. 1160 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,080 I'm I'm not saying I'm not sick of Scientology thing. 1161 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,680 Isn't it because that I got that against like psychiatry and 1162 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,280 stuff like that? Do you know that he is actually 1163 01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,960 in the past? He's like like banned people 1164 01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,000 from drinking like on the cast of his films and stuff. 1165 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,520 I've quickly just googled it on Top Gun Maverick. 1166 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:38,800 He imposed A strict new alcohol rule for cast and crew. 1167 01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:43,440 It's sad and it's like obviously just Google. 1168 01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,640 Quick summary here saying of course Sauce has said that while 1169 01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,800 they may have wanted a drink, they understood the need to be 1170 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,360 in the best possible shape for the demanding stunts and flight 1171 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:52,640 scenes. Yeah, so they have that. 1172 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:57,400 They have that big crash out about about, about the case as 1173 01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,720 you, as you rightly say, Tom Cruise then goes off and drinks, 1174 01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,520 drives for a little bit, but dodgy basically what happens is 1175 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,920 he yells in the face of Joanne Galloway, she storms out. 1176 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,400 He kind of has a quite a bit of a realisation. 1177 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,480 He has a chat with. He has this kind of like picking 1178 01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:16,040 the hero up, motivational chat with with Weinberg. 1179 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,320 Yeah. And again, Right. 1180 01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,080 So, right. This is some Aaron Sorkin 1181 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:22,720 writing here. It's, you know, how I mentioned 1182 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:26,080 earlier on about Joan Galloway giving like a bit of a speech 1183 01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,480 to, to to Cruz that seemed to come out of nowhere and then 1184 01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:33,080 somehow achieved its desire of effect. 1185 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:37,400 Weinberg does the same thing here where he's like talking 1186 01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:43,360 about Kathy's dad, who's this renowned trial lawyer like that 1187 01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:47,000 that people have heard of. He obviously had a long, storied 1188 01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:51,000 career, passed away before Kathy could ever get into law school, 1189 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:55,080 Lingering insecurity, daddy issues, stuff going on there. 1190 01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:01,480 He then tells Kathy, look, you're the guy doing this case. 1191 01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:05,320 If anyone can do this, it's you. And if I had to pick somebody 1192 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,160 out of everybody in the world, between you and your dad, if I 1193 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,000 had to pick one of you to defend these guys, I'd pick you every 1194 01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:11,600 day of the week and twice on Sundays. 1195 01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,400 And it's like, where are you based on that from? 1196 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,040 He doesn't even. This is his first ever case and 1197 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:22,800 he's losing it like but but you're a good friend, Weinberg, 1198 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:27,000 I'll give you that. He's a very good hype man for 1199 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,760 him. He's a good hype man so he he 1200 01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,600 says the right thing when he's needed but but I don't really 1201 01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,680 believe him. Well, you see, I think 1202 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,920 Weinberg's in our monologue and way of thinking. 1203 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,439 It's like, of course I'm going to choose him over that's that's 1204 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:45,040 fucking dead. I think you're like, bring in an 1205 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:51,160 urn with the dad's ashes in, put it at the desk and just go work 1206 01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:55,600 your magic, Sir. Like there's just like silence 1207 01:08:55,960 --> 01:09:02,200 did silence in the courtroom while Kathy seniors spirits just 1208 01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,760 projected in the mains of all the fucking jury in the panel 1209 01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,520 and the witnesses and it's like, God damn. 1210 01:09:09,319 --> 01:09:10,040 Yeah. So of course he's soon. 1211 01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:11,040 Of course he's going to choose the guy. 1212 01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,319 He was actually alive. It's brilliant. 1213 01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,960 There's another, there's another bit of tension they've put into 1214 01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:19,800 the movie here at this point, which I think is also a bit 1215 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:20,600 spurious. And I've looked it up. 1216 01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,040 That's one of the only bits of research I've done, though one 1217 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,880 of the things that's mentioned a few times, Kevin Bacon 1218 01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:31,000 introduces it I think quite early in the trial in that 1219 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,600 scene, whether in the the bar and they have that falling out. 1220 01:09:34,279 --> 01:09:39,160 Yeah, you're a lousy fucking softball player, Jack is if you 1221 01:09:40,359 --> 01:09:44,399 accuse in the during your questioning, if you accuse 1222 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:48,000 Colonel Jessup of any impropriety and then you are not 1223 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,880 found to be correct, you will get court martials. 1224 01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,960 Yeah. And I was like, and I was like, 1225 01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,640 that seems like a really shit way to run a justice system if 1226 01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,840 you are hamstringing the questions that can be asked by 1227 01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:01,920 counsel to witnesses in such a manner. 1228 01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,520 Like, surely what goes on in the courtroom is already pretty 1229 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:05,960 sealed. Yeah. 1230 01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:07,640 It doesn't need it doesn't need to become a matter of 1231 01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,000 disciplinary. It just needs to be proven or 1232 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:10,440 disproven. Right. 1233 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,920 Anyway, I looked it up and, yeah, in the lines you're 1234 01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,080 questioning, you can ask what you want. 1235 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:17,240 It's not. You're not going to get run for 1236 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:17,880 it. Yeah. 1237 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,560 I mean, it'd be a different matter if he was standing on 1238 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,320 Main Street or yelling it in the mess hall. 1239 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,480 But he's asking. He's asking questions to court. 1240 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,560 Law, yeah. It's like, I mean, 1241 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,360 constitutionally protected speech, right? 1242 01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,280 I mean. Yeah. 1243 01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:39,040 But nevertheless, Despite that hanging over him, Galloway 1244 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,640 convinces Kathy to put Jessup on the stand. 1245 01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:45,440 And then we are coming into like the final third of the movie, 1246 01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:48,720 which is like the it's not even a third, really, but it's like 1247 01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,320 the last sort of 25 minutes, I suppose is, is, is the 1248 01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:54,760 questioning of of Jessup. And this is like amazing stuff. 1249 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,560 And I don't need to hype this up. 1250 01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:00,080 Like this is like wildly and popularly known to be amazing 1251 01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:01,240 stuff. But this is the best bit of the 1252 01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,880 movie of me. This is where it like kicks into 1253 01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,480 OverDrive because what it becomes. 1254 01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:12,000 So we've seen this intricate trial, relatively intricate of 1255 01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,360 disproving certain aspects of the case as we've been going. 1256 01:11:14,440 --> 01:11:17,000 And then after all that, after we've been through all that 1257 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:23,320 evidence, because there's been such a concerted effort by by 1258 01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:27,760 Jessup and Co to cover their tracks, all that's left is 1259 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,720 playing upon Jessup's arrogance, I suppose. 1260 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:33,720 Obviously got No Fear of of caffeine just sees Kathy as like 1261 01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:38,720 a, you know, little piss Ant 2 ringer with with with one medal. 1262 01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:42,560 Who gives a shit about him? I'll come to this courtroom and 1263 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,240 I'll stump all over him and then I'll walk out of here probably 1264 01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,360 get him rude again, you know, for for my trouble. 1265 01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,920 I don't give a shit. So he goes there thinking, 1266 01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,960 thinking. He's like King Louis and and. 1267 01:11:56,000 --> 01:12:03,200 I'm fucking sorry. I've got King Louie and trust 1268 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:04,160 greens. Just chilling. 1269 01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:08,200 They're like so. So you claimed to be the king of 1270 01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:10,120 the swingers as you ordered this code, right? 1271 01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:15,440 Is that true? The jungle VIP rest this man 1272 01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,120 this this, this modest in uniform. 1273 01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,000 This man is not. How did he how did he become a 1274 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,880 Marine? I got the rock, Sir. 1275 01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:33,000 Yeah, but I love all this really good acting. 1276 01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:37,160 Like head to head tom-tom Cruise kingly. 1277 01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,960 Fucking hell. Like where did that even come 1278 01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,960 from? I don't know right off my Dome 1279 01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:49,040 and and, but, but it's that awesome bit of like right. 1280 01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,240 So the big lie that they they span when they were concocting 1281 01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,920 this whole thing was that they were going to transfer Santiago 1282 01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,720 Santiago off the base. So that's the first thing he 1283 01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,200 presses on and there's a little bit of theatre. 1284 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,680 I I fact checked this as well, but there's a little bit of 1285 01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,440 theatre And he brings the two airmen in from the Andrews Air 1286 01:13:05,440 --> 01:13:09,080 Force Base to sit in the courtroom as if they're about to 1287 01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:13,000 get calls for testifying, which you see Nicholson notice. 1288 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,040 And the first, sorry, the first thing you asked about actually 1289 01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,800 is it is to do with Santiago's transfer off the base. 1290 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:25,120 He remembers that when they were inspecting Santiago's cabin, 1291 01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,040 they looked in his wardrobes and seen that he hadn't packed. 1292 01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:33,520 So they go, right, this guy was going to get transferred off the 1293 01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,960 base, first flight in the morning. 1294 01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:40,760 He was founded at 0100 flights at 06. 1295 01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:44,280 And yet all his clothes are neatly hanging, these 1296 01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:47,400 footlockers neatly folded. He hasn't packed a single thing. 1297 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:51,160 We've got his phone records. He didn't call a single person. 1298 01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,680 He wrote 14 letters in nine months trying to get off the 1299 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:54,960 base. And then when he gets his 1300 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:58,440 transfer order, he doesn't tell a soul, doesn't ring his parents 1301 01:13:58,440 --> 01:14:00,720 to tell him he's coming, doesn't ring his friend to ask him to 1302 01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:04,080 pick him up at the airport. Not a single soul is informed. 1303 01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:11,000 So we'll come back to that. Meanwhile, like he he, he starts 1304 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:14,520 talking about when you get an order to, to, to men follow it. 1305 01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:18,600 He's like, yeah, yeah, you might, you never worked in a 1306 01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,920 forward area, you never worked up threat, blah, blah, blah, 1307 01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:25,560 blah, blah here, you know, when when you give an order, you 1308 01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,000 follow it or people who are in danger, it's like grave danger. 1309 01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:32,120 It's like, is there any ever kind all all that stuff. 1310 01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,480 It's so good. So you go through all that and 1311 01:14:35,480 --> 01:14:38,960 then finally it catches them in the, in the, the, the 1312 01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:43,200 contradiction, which is if you give an order and it has to be 1313 01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,840 followed and your men unquestionably follow them. 1314 01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,520 And there's never any risk of any men not following your 1315 01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,240 orders. And you order them not to touch 1316 01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,160 Santiago. Why did you order Santiago to be 1317 01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:57,400 transferred off the base? I love that. 1318 01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:04,600 And he's like, and he's like, so and that's when he starts to get 1319 01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,160 like really hostile, really pissy. 1320 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,840 He's like that before then he's like these two Marines are in 1321 01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:13,120 trial for their lives. Please tell me that you've got 1322 01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:17,360 something more than a phone bill like, like all that. 1323 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,480 I love doing the impression, by the way, I don't know what's 1324 01:15:19,480 --> 01:15:25,920 come across. And and he's talking about like, 1325 01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,680 you know, his own importance into national security. 1326 01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:33,760 He's just, he's just super like up his own arse, super arrogant. 1327 01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,720 And eventually he's like, I want the truth. 1328 01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:41,240 You can't handle the truth. Incredible speech, which is pure 1329 01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:47,880 Aaron Sorkin like awesomeness. Get through the whole speech and 1330 01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:52,160 you have that clap bit, that clap bit where Kathy like just 1331 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:54,920 almost brushes it off and just goes straight back into the 1332 01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:58,880 attack again, having just like ignored that big cluster from, 1333 01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,160 from, from, from Jessup was like, did you order the code 1334 01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,400 red? You got that right out here, 1335 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,600 which is phenomenal. And then it all goes quiet. 1336 01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:12,600 Yeah. And then like, he's still like, 1337 01:16:13,480 --> 01:16:15,840 yeah, he's still like, pissed. And then he doesn't understand. 1338 01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,960 Like everyone like, it's all going to be quiet. 1339 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,520 The judge, like, orders the board to step out the room to go 1340 01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:22,000 to an entry room. They start getting up. 1341 01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,040 Everyone rises, they get up and they start walking out. 1342 01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:27,000 And he's like, what's going on? This is ridiculous. 1343 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:28,320 I don't have to sit here for this. 1344 01:16:28,440 --> 01:16:31,160 I'm going to get on a play. And there's like a moment of 1345 01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:37,080 silence where I think Kathy needs to like indicate to to 1346 01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:42,520 the, the the US Marines, Kevin Bacon's character that like, you 1347 01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:46,720 need to take over this bit now. And he's like, yeah, OK, we need 1348 01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:48,880 to, we need to like, hang the trial for a second. 1349 01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:52,760 And then he gets up, tries to walk away. 1350 01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:56,520 The judge calls for the the MPs to come. 1351 01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:57,800 And he's like, what's going fuck. 1352 01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,640 And he's like taking a second. Then he like, looks at Kathy and 1353 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,360 he spins towards Kathy. And then, like, lunges at him. 1354 01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,120 He's like, I'm gonna RIP out your eyes. 1355 01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:09,200 And you, yeah, go RIP out your eyes and piss down your dead 1356 01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:10,760 skull. You fuck with a round Marine. 1357 01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,960 Fuck it. Oh man, So good. 1358 01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:19,480 Yeah. But what I love about this is so 1359 01:17:19,480 --> 01:17:20,800 that's always that's the big climax, right? 1360 01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,680 I love that there's a there's a there's a few cool bits that 1361 01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:27,440 have like led to this moment. You you see the seeds of it 1362 01:17:27,440 --> 01:17:30,680 coming like like Mars off. You see, we've been watching the 1363 01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:32,280 whole movie. We've seen like how arrogant 1364 01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:36,120 Jessup is. And like, as always in in in 1365 01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,680 media, like evil defeats itself in in eventually. 1366 01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,920 You see this like Stephen King all the time, like the big bad 1367 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:43,280 actually ends up being its own demise. 1368 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,720 He's his own demise. He's his own worst enemy. 1369 01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,640 He's so cocky and he's so like arrogant and he just thinks he's 1370 01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:50,240 untouchable and he thinks he's so important. 1371 01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:52,280 He's got such a like an overinflated sense of his own 1372 01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,280 self importance that he thinks he's bigger than the 1373 01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:57,160 institutions around him. And because this is Aaron Sorkin 1374 01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,360 and he believes in a better world, he's proven not to be the 1375 01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,200 case. So so there's that. 1376 01:18:01,480 --> 01:18:04,320 And you see it come up a couple of times where like he pushes 1377 01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,320 himself a little bit too far. He's a he's a bit like, he's a 1378 01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:10,160 bit pissy with Kathy. He's like, I'd prefer it if you 1379 01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:13,320 called me Colonel or Sir when I'm in here. 1380 01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:14,840 I believe I've earned that right. 1381 01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,840 And then and then he disrespects the court straight away. 1382 01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:22,480 And then the, and the judge is like I, I prefer if you called 1383 01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:25,160 me judge or your honour, I'm quite sure I've earned that 1384 01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:30,040 right smack. I love the judge by the way. 1385 01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:35,200 He's really good. Is so yeah. 1386 01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:41,000 Jack Nicholson's character is just a lack of respect and in 1387 01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:46,960 fact, hostility to to coffee is just the lengths he goes to. 1388 01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:53,120 It's like, I mean, he uses some pretty choice slurs about his 1389 01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:58,680 uniform for a start. Like like the native reporting 1390 01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:06,880 name for the Big 15 fighter, you know, for just he he infers he's 1391 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,560 got a bit of a pretty gay mouth. At one point. 1392 01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,200 I forgot the actual words he used, but it's very much like, 1393 01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:16,600 oh, he's he really is a horrible, degenerate piece of 1394 01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:17,600 shit. I mean. 1395 01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,080 He's not, he's not that senior an officer, by the way. 1396 01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:21,480 Yeah. Yeah, he fucking isn't Italian. 1397 01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,680 It's crazy, but I think that's one of the big bollocks. 1398 01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,120 Yeah, he goes around the place like he owns the world. 1399 01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,160 Yeah, yeah, he might be. He might be getting a I was 1400 01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,480 going. To say soon he's a he's a 1401 01:19:30,480 --> 01:19:35,080 Colonel. Like like I don't, I don't know 1402 01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,440 about your military, but Lieutenant Colonel, this is the 1403 01:19:37,440 --> 01:19:41,400 most pre evolent rank we have among amongst officers is 1404 01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:45,000 there's so bloody many of them and he's just wandering higher 1405 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,920 than that. He's a he's a man. 1406 01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:55,080 Yeah, he's fuck, he's the comment or minesweepers, but he 1407 01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:56,840 acts like he's the First Sea Lord. 1408 01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,240 He's yeah, he's not even a Commodore. 1409 01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,920 He's less than a Commodore. So, so, so he's a, he's a 1410 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,920 Colonel equivalent, equivalent in the in the wrong name, at 1411 01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:09,040 least to a foreign captain. So, you know, next above that is 1412 01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:14,160 Brigadier, Brigadier Commodore, you know, and vice versa. 1413 01:20:14,440 --> 01:20:18,800 Yeah. So he's, he's, he's not, he's I 1414 01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:21,280 had a more senior officer attend my fucking pass out when I was 1415 01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:23,960 as the VIP when I was rating, for God's sake. 1416 01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:27,840 Yeah. I mean, and like, again, this 1417 01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:33,240 guy who was essentially A relatively small cog in a big 1418 01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:37,560 machine as whole brand is based on the fact that I'm this guy 1419 01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:43,480 defending America's borders against cheques, notes Cuba. 1420 01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,120 Yeah. And it's like fucking I, I am, I 1421 01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:53,240 am defending America against Cuba's not going to fucking 1422 01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:56,960 invade in America. You know, like it actually. 1423 01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,480 The Americans decided the other way and failed. 1424 01:20:59,480 --> 01:21:02,400 So I don't know there's really regarding who there and why not 1425 01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:06,080 fences? That means fucking the movie. 1426 01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:10,800 We should do it's. But it's wild of me. 1427 01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:17,440 It's like, it's like even then in like in a War was released in 1428 01:21:17,440 --> 01:21:21,080 1991 out of nations that were an existential risk to the United 1429 01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:24,960 States of America, right? Cuba's like going to be close to 1430 01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,440 the bottom, very close to the bottom. 1431 01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:31,080 You know, it's like and there's this whole very much Oh, he's 1432 01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,600 like and because because it's a reputation he builds for 1433 01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,480 himself. He's his own PR kind of guy, 1434 01:21:35,480 --> 01:21:38,880 isn't he? All these stories like, ah, he 1435 01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,640 talks softly and carrying on that division kind of thing. 1436 01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:45,000 And and he got the impression that he kind of that he kind of 1437 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,800 did OK and does not storm. And then they've then they've 1438 01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,920 given him this, this kush job in Cuba, which all of a sudden is, 1439 01:21:51,440 --> 01:21:53,600 is the most fucking high stakes job in the world. 1440 01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,520 I said we've got to hold these goddamn Cubans back. 1441 01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,000 We've got to hold them back. Guys, I think what the Hell's 1442 01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:00,560 going to happen? Holy shit. 1443 01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:05,560 You know, fucking the the yeah, they're going to invade America 1444 01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:08,360 and bring loads of high quality dark rum shit. 1445 01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:12,200 If America was so deeply still involved in the Cold War, they 1446 01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,720 wouldn't have intervened in the Gulf War, you know what I mean? 1447 01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:19,320 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's just just ridiculous. 1448 01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:20,960 Yeah. So yeah, he spins. 1449 01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:22,920 He spins a big fatwat about how great he is. 1450 01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,000 And he's just a he's just a career politician with a with a 1451 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,240 crass mouth, isn't he? That's that's essentially it. 1452 01:22:28,480 --> 01:22:31,600 Only I can hold the Buena Vista Social Club at Bay. 1453 01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:36,680 Yeah, yeah, your Latin rhythms are held away by the strong 1454 01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:41,480 right hand of Uncle Sam. And the strong left work for El 1455 01:22:41,480 --> 01:22:43,120 Presidente. It's. 1456 01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:49,120 Do you want your kids to grow up in a Banana Republic and start 1457 01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:51,120 up a Coca-Cola Republic that they're now fuck? 1458 01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,400 Every day I live 300 feet away from the Taquita lady. 1459 01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:00,760 Funny, her bananas of me. Listen, I live 300 feet away 1460 01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:04,160 from 1950s American cars that are still kept in good condition 1461 01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:08,200 and other Cuban stereotypes. It's horrifying out there. 1462 01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:11,880 Good God. It's like, and that's probably a 1463 01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,680 Cuban cigar E smoking as well as you're in the scene as well. 1464 01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:18,400 So sure. Yeah, you know, I was told in 1465 01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:24,040 beg a stupid common amount that that whole I eat breakfast 4000 1466 01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:28,080 feet away from. So I I eat breakfast in my new 1467 01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,880 buns. I eat breakfast roughly 40 1468 01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:35,400 metres away from my own staff, which seems considerably worse 1469 01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:39,280 than Cubans because they are intend on making my life a 1470 01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:43,240 living hell and I don't even get a fence between myself and them. 1471 01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:49,800 Well, you know, all right, I'm, I'm, I've done pretty well not 1472 01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:53,120 to mention it so far, but there's a scene earlier on where 1473 01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:56,640 they talk to talk to Kendrick and he's like, you've got a 1474 01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,280 problem with Kendrick and he's like, no, I like you Navy boys 1475 01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,600 just fine. Every time we need to go 1476 01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,880 somewhere to fight, you guys always give us a ride. 1477 01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:07,520 I'm like, hey, first, first of all, Sonia, you're correct. 1478 01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:09,680 Fuck him. Because his branch of the 1479 01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,120 military wasn't involved in the in the in the largest amphibious 1480 01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:13,960 operation ever to have taken place, Operation Overlord, 1481 01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:21,280 whereas mine was and and one second mine actually. 1482 01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:26,280 Yeah, we will. Doing so much. 1483 01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,640 This movie could be improved by the introduction of Lieutenant 1484 01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:36,760 Commander Royal Navy Mike Dunbar entering the scene every time 1485 01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,480 Besop opens his mouth and saying cheers dids. 1486 01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,240 Yeah, just did. All right, okay. 1487 01:24:43,440 --> 01:24:44,480 All right, Matt. Right. 1488 01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:45,600 Let's do it. No, let's do it. 1489 01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,880 Let's do it right. There's something about we've 1490 01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:49,760 been nibbling the edges of it for a while now. 1491 01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,840 Let's just get it all out there that the way they talk about how 1492 01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:56,040 important they are, they're fucking Gitmo is ridiculous. 1493 01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,760 They're talking as if they're there's a hot war going on 1494 01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,280 between Cuba and America. There's not right. 1495 01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:06,880 Like it's ridiculous. You want to put, you want to put 1496 01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,280 a jacket on if you like a camouflage jacket. 1497 01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,080 If they see an officer, they might think the Cubans. 1498 01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:12,680 I think it's someone they want to take a shot at. 1499 01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:16,200 Yeah, they they might if they if they don't care about being 1500 01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:20,200 naked off the face of the earth by the world's largest military. 1501 01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:24,080 It's just bigger than the next 25 militaries down as well 1502 01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:26,880 combined. Like, what a fucking stupid 1503 01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,640 thing to say. No, no, I think, I think being I 1504 01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:33,280 think being a Cuban soldier on opposite Contana base, one of 1505 01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,160 the safest place to go because no one's going to start shit 1506 01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:36,840 there. Yeah. 1507 01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:40,320 Ridiculous. I am betting you like I, I don't 1508 01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,360 know, you guys probably remember like what, what milt Twitter was 1509 01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:47,720 like 4 to five years ago. And I am fucking certain that 1510 01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:51,960 the rest of the Marine Corps would constantly, constantly be 1511 01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:53,840 like Cuba is not a real deployment. 1512 01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:59,160 Yeah. It's like the same as Japan is 1513 01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:01,120 not a real deployment. South Korea is not a real 1514 01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,360 deployment because because all they do is sit around behind a 1515 01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:04,800 fence and eat chicken or something. 1516 01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:08,920 Right, so. Mean at least there's actually 1517 01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:13,360 been exchanges of gunfire on the the allegedly demarcation 1518 01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,520 between between North and South Korea. 1519 01:26:16,440 --> 01:26:18,320 There was like the axe murder incident when North Korean 1520 01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:20,240 troops killed some American troops, admittedly back in the 1521 01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:22,560 60s, I think. But I don't think there's been 1522 01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:26,360 any actual, actual violence between the the Americans and 1523 01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:29,720 the Cubans. And fucking Chuck Nicholson's 1524 01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:31,760 scatting those Cuban cigars somehow. 1525 01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:35,400 So there's clearly some kind of. There is is distinctly more 1526 01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:39,600 violence between United States Marines and elderly Japanese 1527 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:41,960 men. For some reason they keep 1528 01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,760 beating them up randomly. I came across an article about 1529 01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:50,680 not like half a year ago. I don't know why there's more 1530 01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:54,240 going on everywhere else rather than than wherever the hell 1531 01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,240 Colonel Jessup is. Ridiculous. 1532 01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,640 I hate that guy. Yeah, like, like I said, I guess 1533 01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:04,000 you're like big, big, big Cyprus op Shader, like Akateri, Akateri 1534 01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,000 vibes. People go on about you get like 1535 01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:09,560 guys in the RAF who get like op shader medals and stuff for, for 1536 01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,840 like working in the rear echelon Akateri in Cyprus. 1537 01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:16,200 And I, I used to be before I got married, I was seeing somebody 1538 01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:21,440 who was in the RAF and, and I was deployed in the Falkland 1539 01:27:21,440 --> 01:27:24,000 Islands on, on HMS Clyde at the time. 1540 01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:27,640 It's like 10 years ago, I was on HMS Clyde at the time and we, I 1541 01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:31,520 remember having to go to the little shop in, in, in RF Mount 1542 01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:36,960 Pleasant and, and spending a tenner on a little 100 megabyte 1543 01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:40,600 Wi-Fi card so I could have like a, a WhatsApp phone call with 1544 01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:41,840 her. And she spent the entire time 1545 01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:46,280 complaining at the, the beach club, the beach club, the beach 1546 01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:48,000 club at RF Akitiri was out of action. 1547 01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:50,680 So she just had a sunbathe outside instead. 1548 01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:58,040 And I was like, yeah, OK, I'm on the arse end of the planet. 1549 01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:02,400 Like, like the the only the only shipping I've seen since I've 1550 01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,200 been down here is one Russian AGI. 1551 01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:09,360 What is going on? Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. 1552 01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:10,760 Yeah. Bad tool. 1553 01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:13,280 Oh, bad. Yeah, it takes it back, though. 1554 01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:17,280 Good times. Really good so bad times to me 1555 01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,400 back. Shall we take a break and we'll 1556 01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:21,880 come back and do some categories? 1557 01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:23,880 Yep. Colonel, what's going on? 1558 01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:27,320 I did my job. I do it again to get on a plate 1559 01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:30,680 and go on back to my base. I'm not going anywhere. 1560 01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:37,840 Colonel MPs guard the Colonel. Captain Ross. 1561 01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:44,280 What the hell is this? I'm being charged with a crime. 1562 01:28:44,440 --> 01:28:46,200 Trial by court martial. Is that what this is? 1563 01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:59,840 I'm being charged with a crime. Rob Marie, Colonel. 1564 01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:01,720 Jessamine, do you understand these? 1565 01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:14,400 Rights as I spread them to you. You have no idea how to defend 1566 01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:17,320 the issue. What you did was weak in a 1567 01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:20,200 country. That's all you did. 1568 01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:24,080 Quotes of the movie. Have you ever got any favourite 1569 01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:25,840 quotes? I've I've got a few, but I'll 1570 01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:30,440 let you guys go first. So many Sonia, do you want to 1571 01:29:30,440 --> 01:29:32,560 jump in with with the with the quotes on Me too. 1572 01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:37,280 I have one that I would like to apply to someone right now, 1573 01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:40,600 which is you are like 7 of the strangest women I've ever met. 1574 01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:44,560 That's good. I like, I like it when they're 1575 01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:49,280 in the former captain's office of Captain W, he says. 1576 01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:51,400 Commander Galloway, why don't you go get yourself a cup of. 1577 01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:52,800 Coffee. Talk about you behind your back. 1578 01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:55,240 Yeah, I love that. That's good. 1579 01:29:55,520 --> 01:30:00,040 I'm on the IMDb quotes page. Most of the Jessup Cafe back and 1580 01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:03,680 forth is on here. Yeah, which I mean, it is very, 1581 01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:07,240 very good, but we can't quote all of that. 1582 01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:11,080 I love just a little one liner. Maybe if we work at it, we can 1583 01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:13,760 get Dawson charged with the Kennedy assassination. 1584 01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:15,520 I. Love that. 1585 01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:19,040 That's an incredibly soaking line. 1586 01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:22,960 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, right back to the subject 1587 01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:24,280 of Colon Jester being full of shit. 1588 01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:26,640 Like, like, like the way he talks here. 1589 01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:30,840 You see, Danny, I can deal with the bullets and the bombs and 1590 01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:33,160 the blood. I don't want money and I don't 1591 01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:35,160 want medals. What I do want for you is to 1592 01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:38,680 stand there in that white uniform with your Harvard mouth 1593 01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:40,560 and extend me some fucking courtesy. 1594 01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:44,840 Your Harvard mouth me nicely. I think your Harvard mouth, I 1595 01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:47,120 thought it was a gay mouth thing you were saying. 1596 01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:50,680 But tell your Harvard mouth. I can deal with the bullets and 1597 01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:53,720 the bombs and the blood or fucking pull everyone. 1598 01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:58,320 Like. We've all done stuff. 1599 01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:00,520 We've all done stuff, mate. Some of the fuck down. 1600 01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:04,720 You know what he's like. He's like, he's like, what the 1601 01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:07,640 fuck did you just fucking think about me, you little bitch? 1602 01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:10,840 I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy 1603 01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:14,280 Seals and I've been involved in numerous secret vegans, Al 1604 01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:17,520 Qaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. 1605 01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:21,160 I am training guerrilla warfare and the top sniper in the entire 1606 01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:24,480 US armed forces. Nothing to me but just another 1607 01:31:24,480 --> 01:31:26,840 target. I wipe you the fuck out with 1608 01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:31,680 precision the likes of witches that I've been seen before the 1609 01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:33,120 surf. Mark my fucking words. 1610 01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,200 You think you can get away with saying that shit to be of the 1611 01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:36,920 Internet? Think again fucker. 1612 01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:40,880 As we speak, I'm contacting by secret network is across the USA 1613 01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:44,320 when your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare 1614 01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:47,040 for the storm, maggot. The storm the wipes out of the 1615 01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,160 pathetical thing you call your life. 1616 01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:52,280 You're fucking dead, kid. I could be anywhere, anytime. 1617 01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:55,680 I kill you over 700 ways and that's just my bare hands. 1618 01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:59,000 Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I 1619 01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:01,760 have access to the entire arsenal of the United States 1620 01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:05,160 Marine Corps and I don't have to finish the Navy SEAL Copy pastor 1621 01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:08,640 there because that is from Colonel Jessup's autobiography, 1622 01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:14,640 Very, very, very carved and it was cell wall in Leavenworth. 1623 01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:22,200 Weinberg and Kathy meet in Galloway for the first time. 1624 01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:24,600 Come out of Galloway. Lieutenant Kathy is considered 1625 01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:26,080 to be the best litigator in our office. 1626 01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:28,960 Successfully plea bargain. 44 cases in nine months. 1627 01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:30,840 One more and I get a set of stick knives. 1628 01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:33,440 Love that. And then and then that comes 1629 01:32:33,440 --> 01:32:35,920 back later on where she's like where he's about to leave and 1630 01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:38,640 she after you said he's drinking, crash out and she 1631 01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:40,760 goes, sorry, I cast you a set of steak knives. 1632 01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:42,480 That was good. Yeah. 1633 01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:45,840 There was some crash outs in this film, actually. 1634 01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:48,840 Yeah. Just to kind of really quickly 1635 01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:51,920 mention something about the relationship between between 1636 01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:54,840 Coffee and Demi Moore's character, the name which 1637 01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:57,040 escapes me. Joanne Galloway. 1638 01:32:57,080 --> 01:33:02,880 Galloway, Thank you. So my wife watched the first 1639 01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:05,360 like maybe 10 minutes of the film with me before she went 1640 01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:08,680 upstairs to her lair when she would just not Nash when she 1641 01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:09,920 just lie down. She was tired. 1642 01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:13,840 She didn't return to some weird, strange lair that's full of 1643 01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:15,440 horded beasts and stuff. But. 1644 01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:20,480 But yeah, but like before, before she left, she was like, 1645 01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:23,120 oh, well, they're obviously going to fall in love because 1646 01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:26,000 it's a 90s film and there's no romantic supply. 1647 01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,640 And that's meant I think that's. That's great. 1648 01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,840 And and that's a good, that's a good Sorkinism, right? 1649 01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:36,000 So, so Sorkin is pretty good at dangling, but not not fulfilling 1650 01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:37,600 a romantic subplot in characters. 1651 01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:43,080 They I've been watching the The West Wing again and they kind of 1652 01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:47,280 eventually, eventually, like 6-5 or six seasons in, they kind of 1653 01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:51,080 start doing it. But for like ages, years and 1654 01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:54,240 upon years, you've got this kind of like really good close 1655 01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:58,640 working relationship between Josh Lyman, the deputy White 1656 01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:01,840 House chief of staff, and his and his assistant Don Salamos. 1657 01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:05,960 And like a lesser show would have made that like a will. 1658 01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:08,480 They won't they thing like straight away and just had it 1659 01:34:08,480 --> 01:34:10,480 going the entire time. But this doesn't do it. 1660 01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:14,520 There's just like 2 professionals who who are 1661 01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:18,080 slightly, slightly beyond the edge of like the things like 1662 01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:21,400 work life and work husband, but but they keep it professional. 1663 01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:24,280 Yeah, that's that's good. Another good, another good quote 1664 01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:26,560 from the crash out, Kathy to Joe. 1665 01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:29,480 Oh, I'm sorry. I keep forgetting you were sick 1666 01:34:29,480 --> 01:34:30,960 the day they taught law at law school. 1667 01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:36,000 That that was that was bars. That was like, hold up. 1668 01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:40,000 His writing is indeed this fire that was like sick the day of 1669 01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:42,400 the talk. There's a few bits though where 1670 01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:47,560 you hear like the the Aaron Sorkin tempo and Tombra, like 1671 01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:50,240 the the rhythm of the stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1672 01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:52,160 He has a very interesting way of writing. 1673 01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:55,120 And I mentioned it earlier on, you know, there's a bit where 1674 01:34:55,440 --> 01:34:59,520 Galloway is having a go at a cafe when she first meets them 1675 01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:04,200 and she says I don't like your fast food, slick ass Persian 1676 01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:06,360 bazaar, blah, blah, blah, blah side of law. 1677 01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:10,840 There's a similar thing that Lieutenant Weinberg does when 1678 01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:13,760 he's having the the discussion with Galloway about why she why 1679 01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:16,760 he doesn't like the defendants because of what they did. 1680 01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:19,720 She's like, why don't you hit? Why you hit him so much? 1681 01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:21,240 She goes, they beat up on a winkling. 1682 01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:23,640 That's all they did. The rest is just smoke fills 1683 01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:25,880 coffeehouse crap. They tortured him to matter. 1684 01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:27,160 A weaker kid. They didn't like him, so they 1685 01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:28,160 killed him. And why? 1686 01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:29,520 Because he couldn't run very fast. 1687 01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:31,320 But the smoke fills coffeehouse crap. 1688 01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:35,680 Like little things like that, bits they all like. 1689 01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:38,160 You can picture that when he says when he's like The West 1690 01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:41,720 Wing and like The Newsroom. It was all like stuff like that, 1691 01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:44,560 like lots of little bars. Yeah. 1692 01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:47,680 He's a big fan of rhythm and and Tambra when he's when he's, when 1693 01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:51,320 he's putting his lines together. I really, I really enjoyed just 1694 01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:55,680 the, the this fucking heat is making me absolutely crazy lying 1695 01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:58,960 again from Colonel Jessup, like because again, it's just him 1696 01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:04,080 trying to build this reputation as this crazy guy who's on the 1697 01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:06,280 edge. It's like, no, you, you 1698 01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:09,480 literally live here. You are probably quite 1699 01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:14,720 acclimatised by this point to the heat, you know, Knock it 1700 01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:16,120 off. You know what he should do? 1701 01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,600 A fucking tour of duty in Ashington, right? 1702 01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:22,280 Him and his boys should March up Station Road, you know. 1703 01:36:22,480 --> 01:36:25,560 They'll get accosted by Mickey T you'll roll up on his little 1704 01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:28,400 wheelchair, he'll try and sell them some used vapes, you'll 1705 01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,800 demand a kebab off them. They won't know what to do. 1706 01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:40,000 Yeah, sorry. What we haven't talked about 1707 01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:43,880 really is the the relationship between Dawson, Lance Corporal 1708 01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:49,720 Dawson and Kathy. One of the sort of deep plots of 1709 01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:53,120 the movie is that those guys are lawyer heads at the beginning. 1710 01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:56,440 Dawson fundamentally doesn't respect Kathy. 1711 01:36:57,040 --> 01:37:01,040 Dawson obviously takes his career in the US Marines 1712 01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:04,000 incredibly seriously. What, what, what is it? 1713 01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:07,600 It's it's unit core gods country or something like that, isn't 1714 01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:09,240 it? That's the order unit core God 1715 01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:12,480 country. So for him, his entire identity 1716 01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:18,040 is, is consumed by being AUS Marine, which is understandable, 1717 01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:21,600 by the way. Like I remember when I first 1718 01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:24,240 joined the Navy, like 11 going on 12 years ago. 1719 01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:27,560 I remember being hungry for it. You know, I did my basic 1720 01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:31,640 training as a rating got transferred, came an officer did 1721 01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:34,560 like, you know, the nine months of initial officer training that 1722 01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:37,680 entire time you're like on this, you know, your your identity 1723 01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:40,520 gets essentially kind of reset almost. 1724 01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:44,240 You know, you you were this one person before you came in and 1725 01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:47,000 like a couple years later, you are fundamentally this different 1726 01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:47,920 person. I understand. 1727 01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:52,560 So I understand where like Dawson is, he's he's obviously 1728 01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:55,080 making a career of British Lance Corporal, relatively junior 1729 01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:57,160 making a career of it. But you can see that he's been 1730 01:37:57,160 --> 01:37:59,280 embraced by the corps and he's he's embraced it. 1731 01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:03,600 So the fact that he sees someone like Cathy, who's left-handed, 1732 01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:06,400 who's been for nine months, has got the military bearing of a, 1733 01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:10,480 of a smashed in biscuit tin, like it's the military bearing 1734 01:38:10,480 --> 01:38:13,320 of my cat. Like, you know, like, like, 1735 01:38:13,480 --> 01:38:15,080 yeah, I get it. He doesn't respect this guy 1736 01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:21,000 because he's a silly and a uniform like 100% and like one 1737 01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,120 of the one of the background plots, it happens. 1738 01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:26,760 It happens only in like 3 beats that are spread out about 45 1739 01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:32,120 minutes apart each. Eventually you get like Dawson 1740 01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:37,640 learning to respect Kathy for for what he is, which is not an 1741 01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:41,840 amazing naval operator, but he's a trial lawyer, a litigator and 1742 01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:44,000 he respects him for that. The skilly, the skill and the 1743 01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:45,800 dedication and the hard work, he's shown doing that. 1744 01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:52,080 And then at the end of the case, of course, Dawson and Downey are 1745 01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:56,640 not guilty of the murders, but they are guilty of misconduct 1746 01:38:56,680 --> 01:39:00,120 and are, you know, removed from the service. 1747 01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:05,000 And at first, I think it's Downey who's saying, like, what 1748 01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:06,440 did we do wrong? We followed the order. 1749 01:39:06,440 --> 01:39:09,240 What did we do wrong? It's like we weren't supposed to 1750 01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:11,560 follow the order. We were supposed to protect 1751 01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:15,120 Private Sentia, was supposed to protect Willie and look after 1752 01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:18,120 him like that's the core value that you didn't do that you 1753 01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:23,080 should have done. And it's only when Kathy says to 1754 01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:25,160 him you don't need to have a badge on your arm to have on it. 1755 01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:29,560 Yeah, it's when he goes like turn and it does that does does 1756 01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:32,560 the there's an officer on deck. It does the awful like both of 1757 01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:34,200 them indoors. And the headgear salute would 1758 01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:39,280 never happen in a million years, but but they did it to make a 1759 01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:41,600 point, right? And it rhymes with the the 1760 01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:43,440 previous scene where it doesn't salute even again. 1761 01:39:43,480 --> 01:39:44,520 They were both in torso headgear. 1762 01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:49,640 Anyway, it's not the same thing. And I I checked it's not the 1763 01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:51,640 same thing in America either. Yeah. 1764 01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:54,720 So anyway, we all went. Through it did the fuck out of 1765 01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:58,960 Colin in Flensburg with that. Yeah, it was. 1766 01:40:02,480 --> 01:40:06,120 There's an officer on deck. Yeah, Final quote. 1767 01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:09,000 To move this thing along a bit, it's got to be. 1768 01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:11,840 It's got to be the big. I mean, we know what the court's 1769 01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:14,680 going to be, right? You know, I want the truth. 1770 01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:19,840 You can handle the truth, son. We live in a world that has 1771 01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:23,120 walls, and those walls have to be guarded by a man with guns. 1772 01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:24,440 Who's going to do it? You. 1773 01:40:24,480 --> 01:40:28,160 You, Lieutenant Weinberg, either greater responsibility then you 1774 01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:30,800 could possibly fathom. You beat the Santiago and you 1775 01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:32,600 curse the Marines. You have that luxury. 1776 01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:34,720 You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. 1777 01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:38,480 That Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. 1778 01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:41,400 And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible 1779 01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:44,800 to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because 1780 01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:48,000 deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want 1781 01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:50,440 me on that wall. You need me on that wall. 1782 01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:54,480 We use words like honour, cold, loyalty. 1783 01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:58,280 We use these words as a backbone of a life spent defending 1784 01:40:58,280 --> 01:41:00,840 something. You use them as a punchline. 1785 01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:04,040 I have neither the time of the inclination to explain myself to 1786 01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:07,440 a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom 1787 01:41:07,440 --> 01:41:09,880 that I provide and then questions the manner in which I 1788 01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:12,280 provided. I would rather you just said 1789 01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:16,040 thank you and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up 1790 01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:19,680 a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn 1791 01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:21,440 what you think you're entitled to. 1792 01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:23,960 Did you order the cold red Jakarta? 1793 01:41:25,480 --> 01:41:26,200 Yeah. OK, be man. 1794 01:41:31,440 --> 01:41:35,480 The speech is making it up like like Jessup Thing sees the guy 1795 01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:38,640 in the trolley problem pulling the lever. 1796 01:41:38,640 --> 01:41:40,360 He. Got it. 1797 01:41:40,480 --> 01:41:42,240 Totally, yes. He's actually the guy who put 1798 01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:48,240 the people on the tracks. Spot on. 1799 01:41:49,440 --> 01:41:52,040 Colonel Jessop has killed more Americans than Cubans in this. 1800 01:41:52,120 --> 01:42:00,600 Movie Listen, this one guy was fucking bad at running and if I 1801 01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:04,200 didn't execute him, who knows how many other people could have 1802 01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:06,320 been killed. Could have been killed. 1803 01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:11,600 Jesus, you know what a guy whose job is to stand on a wall to be 1804 01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:16,320 bad at running? You absolute half that fucking 1805 01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:20,320 waste. This guy wasn't at 105% fucking 1806 01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:22,320 physical fitness. Do you know how many other 1807 01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:25,720 people might have been killed if this man didn't drown in his own 1808 01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:28,920 blood? This one guy they call the 1809 01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:31,360 pickup private because his job is to drive the Jeep. 1810 01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:33,920 Give that to him. Yeah, yeah. 1811 01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:36,560 It's like, look, now you'll pick up private. 1812 01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:39,440 I know the last one also had the ability to get girls to come 1813 01:42:39,440 --> 01:42:41,120 off. I only learn that skill too, but 1814 01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:43,680 just drive the cheap pick people up. 1815 01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:45,840 You know, it's it's it's it's wild to me. 1816 01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:48,800 It's it's crazy. I mean, obviously I got second. 1817 01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:52,320 I mean it all like just kind of like this. 1818 01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:55,560 Once again, it's just like feeding a dress of soul. 1819 01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:59,120 I I I am the entirety of the US military. 1820 01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:03,840 I I am I made the BBC. I. 1821 01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:12,080 Made. It every sellers I made it 1822 01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:15,840 bloody hell hot. You did nothing but make a 1823 01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:18,360 country weaker today. Yeah. 1824 01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:20,520 All right. I believe you. 1825 01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:24,040 Needle drops. There is one decent needle drop 1826 01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:27,280 in this movie, Hound Dog, written by Jerry Lieber and Mike 1827 01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:29,440 Stoller. Yeah, not the others Presley 1828 01:43:29,440 --> 01:43:30,880 version or the Big Mama Thornton. 1829 01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:32,160 Yeah, I know. It's that awesome. 1830 01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:36,840 Hell yeah, dude. Really good yeah, awesome next 1831 01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:39,840 category IMDb trivia. We've covered some of it. 1832 01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:42,680 I'll I'll do some more though. Tom Cruise's Jack Nicholson 1833 01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:45,160 impression when the characters are quoting Colonel Jessup was 1834 01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:47,400 not scripted. Demi Moore and Kevin Pollock's 1835 01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:50,720 reactions were genuine. It's a lazy That's not the most 1836 01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:53,480 interesting fact to begin with, but the I mentioned it earlier 1837 01:43:53,480 --> 01:43:56,040 on, the original play was inspired by an actual Code Red 1838 01:43:56,440 --> 01:44:00,160 Guantanamo Bay. Lance Corporal David Cox and 1839 01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:03,960 nine other enlisted men turned up a fellow Marine and severely 1840 01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:06,800 beat him for stitching to the Naval Criminal Investigative 1841 01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:08,720 Service. Cox was acquitted and then they 1842 01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:13,000 honourably discharged in 1994. David Cox mysteriously vanished 1843 01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:16,920 and his bullet ridden body was found three months later. 1844 01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:22,000 His murder remains unsolved. But the that's that's from IMDb, 1845 01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:24,280 but I've got some extra detail on that as well. 1846 01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:31,040 So the the case itself was based on a real incident. 1847 01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:34,880 Aaron, Aaron Sorkin's sister who's a Navy Jag lawyer or was 1848 01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:38,440 at the time talking about hazing gone wrong involving a code red 1849 01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:41,520 from a superior had the name of the guy. 1850 01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:45,640 Pfc William Alvarado was the basis for Santiago. 1851 01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:50,520 He survived and didn't die and the and the other Marines were 1852 01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:52,640 court martialed, obviously not convicted of murder. 1853 01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:55,800 So they they've upped the stakes by having him die during the 1854 01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:59,720 hazing to make it obviously like a meaty case for a movie and or 1855 01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:05,160 Broadway play. Got a goof that I noticed last 1856 01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:11,040 night. So the dialogue after after 1857 01:45:11,440 --> 01:45:19,520 Martinson kills himself and Kathy said he put a 45 calibre 1858 01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:22,800 gun in his mouth or whatever, but that's a Beretta M9. 1859 01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:26,600 It's a 92, just a nine millimetre pistol. 1860 01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:28,120 Yeah. So basically garbage film. 1861 01:45:28,480 --> 01:45:30,960 Hated it. I wanted to shoot myself after 1862 01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:33,160 watching it just because they got that one particular gun. 1863 01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:36,400 Well. A good thing that you mentioned 1864 01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:40,800 earlier on about the the lack of a romantic subplot. 1865 01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:45,240 So an unnamed executive gave Aaron Sorkin a note. 1866 01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:47,520 If Tom Cruise and Demi Moore aren't going to sleep each 1867 01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:49,240 other, why is Demi Moore a woman? 1868 01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:51,000 Yeah. And he was, and he was. 1869 01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:52,360 Yeah. And he responded. 1870 01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:55,520 I said the obvious answer. Women have purposes other than 1871 01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:59,200 to sleep with Tom Cruise. That's incredible. 1872 01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:01,200 Yeah. Brilliant. 1873 01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:04,040 I mean, I would argue, I mean, Tom Cruise doesn't really give. 1874 01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:06,120 Right. On the subject of Tom Cruise. 1875 01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:08,240 We've, we've kind of skirted around to the subject of of, of 1876 01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:11,280 Tom for a while. One of the other things we we 1877 01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:14,160 haven't talked about, and it's not about business really, but I 1878 01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:18,200 don't find him convincing with any of the female leads in a 1879 01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:20,480 romantic subplot. I've never seen him in a movie 1880 01:46:20,480 --> 01:46:23,320 where he has a romantic subplot with a woman where it's worked 1881 01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:26,200 for me, with the one exception of being Eyes Wide Shut because 1882 01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:29,320 he's married to Nicole Kidman and the whole plot of the movie 1883 01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:30,960 hinged in the fact that they have a weird energy. 1884 01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:35,680 Example, Edge of Tomorrow with Emily Blunt, don't buy it. 1885 01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:38,040 And everyone loves that movie and I love that movie, but don't 1886 01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:39,640 buy that. Don't buy that romance. 1887 01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:44,040 Oblivion with Olya, what's her name? 1888 01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:48,760 Oh, can't remember. My name, my tongue. 1889 01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:53,120 But yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't buy that one either, 1890 01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:55,760 really. I don't know whether it's a 1891 01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:56,920 blast or a curse. Kalenko. 1892 01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:03,280 It's he's, he's blessed or cursed with the physical 1893 01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:08,640 aesthetics of a sexy man, but incredibly sexless vibes, Yeah. 1894 01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:13,080 Oh, topical Maverick with with John Mcconnelly. 1895 01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:15,360 Yeah, and they have that. They have that sex scene which 1896 01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:17,360 is just the two of them rolling on in a bed laughing at each 1897 01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:20,640 other. That's that's what do you think 1898 01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:23,160 sex is, man? That's so weird. 1899 01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:26,480 It's just that like doing this, the whole bit like big big big 1900 01:47:26,480 --> 01:47:29,440 toothy laugh face that he does on interviews and stuff. 1901 01:47:29,440 --> 01:47:33,400 So what do you think sex is? That's that's it, man. 1902 01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:36,040 Yeah, that's that's that's it to him. 1903 01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:37,680 So say lying in bed with a lady and laughing. 1904 01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:42,680 Crazy. There's a couple of more goofs. 1905 01:47:43,440 --> 01:47:45,320 So we mentioned already the Judge Advocate has the same 1906 01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:47,000 qualified immunity as any of her attorney. 1907 01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:50,800 Or in your defence. So you wouldn't get court 1908 01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:52,600 martials for asking a question of Jessup? 1909 01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:56,600 Yeah, yeah, you, you. Maybe he would if he was found 1910 01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:59,320 in contempt of the court and was saying mental shit. 1911 01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:02,360 But just doing a line of questioning shouldn't fill him 1912 01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:05,720 with a fear regard. You know, when they bring in the 1913 01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:11,280 two US Air Force airmen in to spook Colonel Jessop because he 1914 01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:13,960 thinks he's got a smoking gun with with the testimony of these 1915 01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:16,800 two guys. But actually he's brought them 1916 01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:19,000 in a set dressing because he was like, what were they going to 1917 01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:20,160 say on the stand? Oh, that they had no 1918 01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:24,920 recollection. You know, that wouldn't have 1919 01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:27,640 worked in real life because witnesses like that don't just 1920 01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:29,040 sit in the courtroom waiting to be called forward. 1921 01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:31,560 They're kept in an ante room and then brought in purely for their 1922 01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:33,040 testimony because they don't watch the rest of the trial 1923 01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:36,440 happening. Yeah. 1924 01:48:36,440 --> 01:48:38,080 What else has gone on? Salutes? 1925 01:48:38,160 --> 01:48:38,960 Ridiculous. Yeah. 1926 01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:41,840 Because of that already people salute me like her gear indoors 1927 01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:43,880 Mental. Would this movie have been 1928 01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:49,400 better with Doctor Jack Ryan? Like, isn't Jessup supposed to 1929 01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:53,400 become some sort of more important national security? 1930 01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:59,760 Like, this could start as Ryan requesting some sort of 1931 01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:02,200 investigation into what's going on. 1932 01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:08,040 Like like this. We want this guy on our Security 1933 01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:11,840 Council, but there's like people dying off at his command despite 1934 01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:15,360 him only being in Cuba. That's SUS. 1935 01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:19,000 Look at that. You would, you know what it is. 1936 01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:24,800 And in that case, he would totally dispatch Ding Travers to 1937 01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:28,800 investigate, wouldn't he? He would send Ding Travers and 1938 01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:32,760 John Clark to to see just what the Hell's going on down there. 1939 01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:34,920 Oh, this is a totally different movie. 1940 01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:36,000 Totally different. Movie. 1941 01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:38,560 Good movie, totally different one. 1942 01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:43,280 To on the ground investigation into the cultures of yes of of 1943 01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:45,200 the Code Red. That would be the movie. 1944 01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:46,480 The movie would be called Code Red. 1945 01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:48,200 Called Code Red and it would be sick. 1946 01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:51,360 Tom Clancy's Code Red. Code Red. 1947 01:49:52,520 --> 01:49:55,120 That would be absolutely sick. I want to watch that film when 1948 01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:56,600 he would, he would need to write that film. 1949 01:49:57,280 --> 01:50:00,840 Sean Connery is the judge. Nice. 1950 01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:05,160 I believe I have found that right. 1951 01:50:07,440 --> 01:50:11,040 You watch yourself. As far as Doctor Richard Kimball 1952 01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:14,480 goes, he could have been a specialist witness for the 1953 01:50:14,480 --> 01:50:17,560 defence. Specialist medical witness? 1954 01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:22,280 Yeah, defence. Yeah, lactic acidosis. 1955 01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:27,400 Yeah, all that stuff. Yeah, President James Marshall. 1956 01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:31,200 This movie has an actor called James. 1957 01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:33,520 Marshall I was like, holy shit, man. 1958 01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:39,960 Yeah, but as President James Marshall, could you imagine 1959 01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:44,600 President James Marshall in this movie as the as the president? 1960 01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:47,280 He's he's like, he storms, storms in at the end. 1961 01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:49,600 He's like. Out of my courtroom. 1962 01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:52,440 Big swinging Dick of the executive branch. 1963 01:50:53,480 --> 01:50:55,760 Get off of my base, get out of my Marines. 1964 01:50:56,240 --> 01:50:59,520 Get out of my core. Get out of my. 1965 01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:01,800 Core. That sounds incredibly 1966 01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:04,280 homoerosic. Sucking in blood out of. 1967 01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:08,200 My Marines. Was like, oh, we're. 1968 01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:15,320 Discussing the military break, It's not if it's underway. 1969 01:51:15,320 --> 01:51:18,400 Energy over here. Jeffrey Wright could have been 1970 01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:21,960 anybody in this movie. Jeffrey Wright could have been 1971 01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:24,040 good on the Kevin Bacon rule. Yeah, definitely. 1972 01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:27,400 As as a as you're not standard Marine, Yeah. 1973 01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:30,640 Who's the thinking? The thinking man's Marine who 1974 01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:33,200 still wears the green uniform but actually has something 1975 01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:38,360 between his his ears. A freshly eaten crayon. 1976 01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:43,800 He was since paying for that one. 1977 01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:51,960 You should you should refer to them as Naval Interim 1978 01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:56,760 Infantrymen just to piss off any potential Marine listening and. 1979 01:51:58,120 --> 01:52:00,640 His Majesty's jollies soldier, and a sailor too. 1980 01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:02,840 Not my words, the words of rigid Kipling. 1981 01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:08,160 Oh. Shit. 1982 01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:13,000 Oh shit, Rigid Kipling was crazy for. 1983 01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:17,240 That one yo. As frightening as this fire. 1984 01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:21,840 Waggon, right? King Louie, It's all comes back. 1985 01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:23,400 Awesome spot, King Louie. Holy shit. 1986 01:52:23,440 --> 01:52:27,360 Everything flows from from from Roger Kaplan, clearly. 1987 01:52:28,480 --> 01:52:31,560 Oh, yeah. Oh, well, yeah, exactly. 1988 01:52:31,560 --> 01:52:34,520 God, you may talk of gin and beer when you're quoted safe out 1989 01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:37,200 here in fucking Guantanamo Bay. Quoted safe out there. 1990 01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:42,320 But when it comes to saucer, you do your work on water and lick 1991 01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:43,560 the blooming bits of him. That's got it. 1992 01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:44,720 Yeah. All right. 1993 01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:46,280 OK. Couldn't get in, everybody. 1994 01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:51,360 Yeah, that's the Ding Chavez award for missed opportunity of 1995 01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:53,240 the movie. Clearly the ghost of of Uzu 1996 01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:54,560 Kipling appearing as a first ghost. 1997 01:52:55,440 --> 01:53:03,040 But apart from that, God, I think this movie nails it 1998 01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:07,640 largely the only thing right. So I, I get the impression that 1999 01:53:07,640 --> 01:53:14,400 whilst this movie is loved by me and plenty of people I know, I 2000 01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:17,720 think Navy barristers every everybody in the military kind 2001 01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:19,280 of likes it. I guess it's a good movie. 2002 01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:23,360 What it doesn't do, I don't think very well. 2003 01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:25,400 I kind of like it, but what it doesn't do, and maybe this is a 2004 01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:28,120 good thing actually is it doesn't like have a counterpoint 2005 01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:32,280 for Nathan Jessup is like actually the military's actually 2006 01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:35,520 good. Actually, it kind of owns the 2007 01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:39,760 problem and that like the most powerful guy is a fucking shit 2008 01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:43,360 eel and the guy who got passed over Markinson has just killed 2009 01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:47,040 himself in a motel room. The the, the, the system does 2010 01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:51,520 not reward meritoriously. It's political Wheeling and 2011 01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:54,400 dealing just like anywhere else. There's a swamp that needs to be 2012 01:53:54,400 --> 01:53:58,200 drained, but there isn't like there's not like a good version 2013 01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:00,440 of Jessup to to make us feel comfortable. 2014 01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:04,680 You know, it's not like clear and present danger where like 2015 01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:09,200 President Jack Ryan at the end, like like stands up to the 2016 01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:11,240 president and is like, I don't dance. 2017 01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:13,960 It's like it's the old so my 2 step Jack and he's like, I don't 2018 01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:16,440 dance and then leaves. You know, it's like that. 2019 01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:19,360 I don't know. Is that a missed opportunity? 2020 01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:20,880 Actually, it's kind of a win. I'm not really sure. 2021 01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:24,560 I think it is a win. While it's not a game changer 2022 01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:28,200 and I don't think it would like kind of make the film much 2023 01:54:28,200 --> 01:54:34,600 worse, much better just to have just a few seconds of the 2024 01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:38,040 incident with the alleged or they were aiming at me. 2025 01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:39,320 I was going to shoot a damn kind of thing. 2026 01:54:39,320 --> 01:54:41,280 We'll be interested in the stage was how to work that into the 2027 01:54:41,280 --> 01:54:45,880 film kind of thing because is it those kind of pose more 2028 01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:48,320 questions and stuff and it would add a few more layers to it 2029 01:54:48,320 --> 01:54:49,720 actually in the storyline and stuff. 2030 01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:53,680 It's like I say, it's it's it's presence or absence isn't a game 2031 01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:56,200 breakout or change up. But still it will be 2032 01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:58,560 interesting. Interesting, isn't it? 2033 01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:00,680 So you got, like, shorts. You got a short scene at the 2034 01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:02,880 beginning of the movie of the initial assaults, which results 2035 01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:04,280 in Santiago's death, right? Yeah. 2036 01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:08,400 There's a version of this movie where they did like, a bit of a 2037 01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:11,040 Rashomon thing. And every and every time we see 2038 01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:13,600 someone's testimony, we get a flashback to what their 2039 01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:14,920 interpretation of the events were. 2040 01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:18,600 And you got a whole and you got a whole like, oh, well, from 2041 01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:21,360 this, from private Danny's perspective, this is what he 2042 01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:22,480 saw. From daughter's perspective, 2043 01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:25,160 this is what he heard. From Kendra's perspective, this 2044 01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:26,720 is what he said and what they took it as. 2045 01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:29,000 You know, there's, there's, there's none of that. 2046 01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:31,280 There's just, it's all the courtroom. 2047 01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:34,320 I like it for being all in the courtroom because it's all in 2048 01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:37,560 your imagination and you are just there because I think it 2049 01:55:37,560 --> 01:55:41,440 would distract from the compelling performances and and 2050 01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:45,560 the intricacies of the language. I'm I'm, I'm of no doubt that 2051 01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:48,400 like robbery. And I had those conversations 2052 01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:49,760 when they were putting the movies together and he's 2053 01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:52,000 directing it and looking at the screenplay and going, well, 2054 01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:54,920 actually, should we and to cut like should we, should we shoot 2055 01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:59,320 some stuff and to cut it on the editing to like show what what 2056 01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:02,240 they're talking about? Or should we just stay in the 2057 01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:05,680 courtroom and stay there and and they obviously made the right 2058 01:56:05,680 --> 01:56:07,960 call there, I think to to keep it all in the courtroom, right? 2059 01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:11,320 Should we talk about the ML Kua MD kua MH kua. 2060 01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:15,360 So that's the most this is this is this is this is this is your 2061 01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:18,400 opt for most likely course of action, your most dangerous 2062 01:56:18,400 --> 01:56:21,720 course of action and almost hilarious course of action. 2063 01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:26,600 Most likely course of action is what they expected it to be, 2064 01:56:26,600 --> 01:56:29,600 right? So you assign the case to really 2065 01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:34,880 junior council who's got lots of form for taking plea deals and 2066 01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:38,080 not taking things to trial. What the most likely outcome of 2067 01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:43,320 this is, is that they get the 12 years for a, for a guilty plea 2068 01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:45,480 that was offered at the beginning. 2069 01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:48,240 And those guys spend the better part of their lives in, in, in 2070 01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:51,720 Leavenworth. And Kathy gets his set of steak 2071 01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:53,320 knives and moves on. And the whole thing doesn't 2072 01:56:53,320 --> 01:56:55,560 happen really. That's the most likely course of 2073 01:56:55,560 --> 01:56:58,240 action. And then terrifyingly, that 2074 01:56:58,240 --> 01:57:01,920 means that Jessop was unencumbered on his rise to the 2075 01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:05,040 top, goes on to be the director of operations for the security 2076 01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:08,840 Advisor. And then Jesus, you know, his 2077 01:57:08,840 --> 01:57:12,320 career treachery from there is, you know, either national 2078 01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:15,680 security advisor himself proper or remains in the military, 2079 01:57:16,360 --> 01:57:18,600 becomes like head of the Joint Chiefs. 2080 01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:20,800 He's a Colonel at the moment, but you can see him rising up. 2081 01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:24,360 Brigadier, whatever Major General, up to general, you 2082 01:57:24,360 --> 01:57:28,040 know, you can see like 10 years from this, 15 years from this, 2083 01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:30,560 he's he's occupying like 4 star. Terrifying. 2084 01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:35,480 Yeah. Or even more scary is he's in 2085 01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:38,240 the Oval Office. Oh, jeez. 2086 01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:39,800 Presidential run would be horrific. 2087 01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:42,880 I feel like I'm in the dead zone and I've just shook that bad 2088 01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:46,720 guy's hand and I've and I've had the visions that, you know, live 2089 01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:48,680 free or die. You have Jet in your eye and 2090 01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:52,840 that motherfuckers. So, so this is the HW 2091 01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:56,800 presidency, isn't it? This movie came out in. 2092 01:57:57,040 --> 01:58:00,560 So there's a there's a version of this where I don't think he's 2093 01:58:00,560 --> 01:58:02,880 on the ticket in time for George W, No. 2094 01:58:02,960 --> 01:58:07,360 He wouldn't be. But he's certainly around to be 2095 01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:10,120 a contender. I don't know, around Obama's 2096 01:58:10,120 --> 01:58:14,120 second term. I mean, you know what, you're 2097 01:58:14,120 --> 01:58:16,920 probably right. He would have, he would have ran 2098 01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:20,240 against Obama in kind of timeline terms, right? 2099 01:58:20,240 --> 01:58:23,160 And. By the time you've you've done 2100 01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:24,920 out your military career and you're an old guy. 2101 01:58:24,920 --> 01:58:27,520 I mean, he's what was he meant to be about that about 50 odd? 2102 01:58:28,920 --> 01:58:32,720 So I mean, let's work it out. So he did, he did Vietnam, so he 2103 01:58:32,720 --> 01:58:37,040 did few 2000. So 60s to 70s. 2104 01:58:37,040 --> 01:58:39,960 So he's been in for he. Could have you could have been 2105 01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:49,040 as young as 1819 during that. Yeah, so he's 60s, late 50s, 2106 01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:51,800 Well. Maybe, in which case, actually 2107 01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:56,480 maybe he's looking at maybe running against him in the 2008 2108 01:58:56,480 --> 01:58:59,120 election, Then yeah, maybe it's like a it's like a reasonable 2109 01:58:59,120 --> 01:59:01,120 time. Maybe. 2110 01:59:01,160 --> 01:59:04,480 Maybe he's like a contender in the primaries and loses out to 2111 01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:05,880 George W Bush. You know what the really 2112 01:59:05,880 --> 01:59:09,080 hilarious thing would be? Seeing him doing a presidential 2113 01:59:09,080 --> 01:59:11,280 run within that kind of time frame and like, debating 2114 01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:15,840 against, for instance, Obama, especially because he'd have 2115 01:59:16,320 --> 01:59:18,560 Kendra. Because it's hype man, possibly 2116 01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:23,480 even as VP contender, and Kendrick would be trying so hard 2117 01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:25,560 not to say something super fucking racist. 2118 01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:30,240 Kendrick by this point would have been like dishonourably 2119 01:59:30,240 --> 01:59:34,400 discharged for like shooting some children in like, not even 2120 01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:36,360 a war zone in like Baltimore or something. 2121 01:59:38,440 --> 01:59:39,760 This is your hilarious course of action. 2122 01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:43,080 Check. Will it be like just like 2123 01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:46,600 Kendrick loudly sweating and trying not to say something 2124 01:59:46,640 --> 01:59:51,480 racist while while while his boss he was like The Walking 2125 01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:56,320 embodiment of the Navy SEAL copy pasta gets in a debate with 2126 01:59:56,320 --> 01:59:59,040 Barack Obama? Can you imagine? 2127 01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:01,720 Like, yeah, we just got the we just got the California poll 2128 02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:06,640 figures in 89% of voters don't want their baby kissed by 2129 02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:13,320 Nathan. 57% of those people thought that was a fairly or 2130 02:00:13,320 --> 02:00:16,640 very important issue. Yeah, it's like he looks like 2131 02:00:16,640 --> 02:00:21,040 you would eat it. That's like. 2132 02:00:23,640 --> 02:00:26,800 I'm just trying to picture him like in in one room with Bernie 2133 02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:30,160 Sanders. That was Could you imagine that? 2134 02:00:30,160 --> 02:00:33,920 He's pretty getting a question on gays in the military. 2135 02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:35,520 Could you just imagine him like answering that? 2136 02:00:36,440 --> 02:00:38,360 Like having to and having to like. 2137 02:00:39,160 --> 02:00:42,360 I am trying to be nice about it if you ordered that code red. 2138 02:00:43,520 --> 02:00:46,000 Oh my God. They attract enemy radar. 2139 02:00:47,280 --> 02:00:50,400 They muck about. They always want to sit on the 2140 02:00:50,400 --> 02:00:55,120 captain's table. The victim of the gay boat. 2141 02:00:58,080 --> 02:00:59,440 Why are you being gay with your men? 2142 02:01:02,680 --> 02:01:04,960 I'm here with the commanding officer of HMS Gooch. 2143 02:01:10,600 --> 02:01:13,640 But it's just like literally just like literally giving oral 2144 02:01:13,640 --> 02:01:18,760 sex suicide on. 90% of injuries in the Naval Service are 2145 02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:24,360 sustained to the people. This is a deep cut that's 2146 02:01:24,360 --> 02:01:28,560 probably not going to play with the handful of non non British 2147 02:01:28,560 --> 02:01:30,480 listeners will have. And in fact, actually I think 2148 02:01:30,480 --> 02:01:32,760 more of our listeners and non British than there are British. 2149 02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:34,880 I'll put some I'll put some video footage up as it's 2150 02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:35,480 happening. Yeah. 2151 02:01:35,480 --> 02:01:36,960 So we can see. Yeah, we are, obviously. 2152 02:01:38,000 --> 02:01:40,400 Referencing. Brass Eye, which is which is the 2153 02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:43,200 epitome of fake news. That's that's the greatest fake 2154 02:01:43,200 --> 02:01:45,200 news ever created. I love. 2155 02:01:45,560 --> 02:01:49,040 It very good, Yeah. Cool. 2156 02:01:49,160 --> 02:01:51,320 Should we? Oh dude, actually got a question 2157 02:01:51,320 --> 02:01:54,040 for you. Have you got any notes from the 2158 02:01:54,040 --> 02:01:54,960 Peanuts gallery? There's. 2159 02:01:54,960 --> 02:02:01,120 Lots of very funny content out there about this film on our 2160 02:02:01,120 --> 02:02:06,520 favourite website Letterbox. Once again, not using this spot 2161 02:02:06,520 --> 02:02:09,040 to kind of call out people's opinions, even if they are shit. 2162 02:02:10,120 --> 02:02:12,840 We'll just kind of move on and deal with these bad opinions 2163 02:02:12,840 --> 02:02:14,880 that we witness. I mean it might be a shit 2164 02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:16,960 opinion, but it's not a shit person so. 2165 02:02:17,280 --> 02:02:19,120 I just glanced. I just glanced at one Rory that 2166 02:02:19,120 --> 02:02:21,280 says Jack Nicholson looks like he eats babies. 2167 02:02:21,480 --> 02:02:23,400 There you go. That's why the California, the 2168 02:02:23,400 --> 02:02:24,800 one touching the fucking kids, man. 2169 02:02:25,640 --> 02:02:27,880 But like especially it's like there was one woman who was 2170 02:02:27,880 --> 02:02:32,320 like, Oh my God, I named my daughter Crayola and he devoured 2171 02:02:32,520 --> 02:02:34,440 her. He's got our Marines, right? 2172 02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:37,160 No. So off off off come the glasses, 2173 02:02:37,160 --> 02:02:39,800 because I'm an old bastard and let's have a look at these 2174 02:02:39,840 --> 02:02:43,000 reviews. So an issue with this is you've 2175 02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:47,760 got a kind of main through a lot of ones that are just like 4 2176 02:02:47,760 --> 02:02:50,600 stars all caps. You can't handle the truth for 2177 02:02:50,600 --> 02:02:57,000 exclamation marks, but we'll get once like he was digging in him. 2178 02:02:57,120 --> 02:02:59,960 If you know, you know genius Chungus. 2179 02:03:01,200 --> 02:03:02,800 I have no idea the meaning of that. 2180 02:03:03,440 --> 02:03:06,840 Well, I mean roughly the meaning of it, but I don't get the, I 2181 02:03:06,840 --> 02:03:12,040 don't get who he's digging in. So I guess I don't know. 2182 02:03:12,440 --> 02:03:15,080 And that's four stars if. I had to guess it would be Tom 2183 02:03:15,080 --> 02:03:16,920 Cruise and Kevin Bacon. I guess so, yeah. 2184 02:03:17,920 --> 02:03:19,840 Tom Cruise, you know. How's your fucking soft bio 2185 02:03:19,960 --> 02:03:22,400 Jack? Tom Cruise delivers the 2186 02:03:22,400 --> 02:03:26,080 courtroom passion of a man who thinks an extraterrestrial ruler 2187 02:03:26,080 --> 02:03:29,640 named Xenu brought brilliance of people to Earth and killed them 2188 02:03:29,640 --> 02:03:32,680 with hydrogen bombs and now they're souls attached to people 2189 02:03:33,160 --> 02:03:36,280 and 'cause them to stress. 4 1/2 stars here. 2190 02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:38,560 I love what it's like 4 1/2 stars. 2191 02:03:38,560 --> 02:03:40,760 Say what? What more could it have done 2192 02:03:42,600 --> 02:03:45,640 rolling into the courtroom with the two schnooks like they're 2193 02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:50,120 the letters in Miracle on 34th? I love that. 2194 02:03:50,480 --> 02:03:53,080 I do it for one second. By the Jack Nicholson's carrot. 2195 02:03:53,080 --> 02:03:55,680 I would actually decide to blurt out the truth in court, but 2196 02:03:55,680 --> 02:03:57,360 otherwise, great watch. Disagree. 2197 02:03:57,360 --> 02:04:00,280 I think you absolutely would. I think he thought he was 2198 02:04:00,280 --> 02:04:01,840 totally unassailable at that point. 2199 02:04:01,840 --> 02:04:04,040 Like I said, the man said the walk and talk and physical 2200 02:04:04,040 --> 02:04:06,800 embodiment of the Navy SEAL. Copy, pastor, you know? 2201 02:04:06,800 --> 02:04:08,240 Yeah. He'll sort of contempt for. 2202 02:04:08,240 --> 02:04:10,040 That yeah, total contempt for everyone. 2203 02:04:10,720 --> 02:04:12,280 He's he's high on his own supply. 2204 02:04:12,280 --> 02:04:13,560 He's absolutely in love for himself. 2205 02:04:13,880 --> 02:04:15,360 He thinks he's the be all and all. 2206 02:04:15,360 --> 02:04:16,720 He thinks he's fucking King Louie, man. 2207 02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:19,520 He's not King Louie. He's not from Princely. 2208 02:04:19,520 --> 02:04:21,560 He thinks he's Lily, Allen thinks. 2209 02:04:21,560 --> 02:04:22,320 He's his own. Yeah, he. 2210 02:04:23,720 --> 02:04:29,280 Thinks he's Rod Stewart. I'm stronger than the Colonel 2211 02:04:29,280 --> 02:04:32,000 because I would never be rage bared into getting myself 2212 02:04:32,000 --> 02:04:35,280 arrested for murder and several of our felonies. 2213 02:04:35,880 --> 02:04:39,800 Absolutely. Basically a charisma competition 2214 02:04:39,800 --> 02:04:43,440 between Cruz and Moore, and they're both Duncan Three's on 2215 02:04:43,440 --> 02:04:46,440 all counts. Also comes across as a Zuma 2216 02:04:46,440 --> 02:04:49,920 versus Boomer clash in some respects, which is interesting. 2217 02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:53,200 It is interesting. It is Zuma V Boomer Aaron Sorkin 2218 02:04:53,200 --> 02:04:56,760 character reaching through the TV to jerk off your neolib dad. 2219 02:04:57,200 --> 02:05:00,280 I should go to gaol because I forgot the number one most 2220 02:05:00,280 --> 02:05:03,760 important thing about the United States military helping people. 2221 02:05:08,120 --> 02:05:11,080 Would it be the perfect movie of Tom Cruise and Demi Moore ended 2222 02:05:11,080 --> 02:05:12,680 up together? Sad face no? 2223 02:05:13,960 --> 02:05:16,560 That's great. Yeah, display with that one. 2224 02:05:16,920 --> 02:05:18,080 Four stars. Demi Moore. 2225 02:05:18,080 --> 02:05:20,520 Chronically underrated, not least because she's the only 2226 02:05:20,520 --> 02:05:23,400 woman alive to have on screen sexual chemistry with Tom 2227 02:05:23,400 --> 02:05:29,680 Cruise. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 2228 02:05:29,840 --> 02:05:32,000 Even his wife didn't. Yeah, well, there it go. 2229 02:05:34,280 --> 02:05:37,560 Nothing Tom Cruise does in this movie would be OK in a 2230 02:05:37,560 --> 02:05:41,920 courtroom. Yeah, there's, there's, there's 2231 02:05:41,920 --> 02:05:43,800 lots of stuff here we'd probably get like thrown out for. 2232 02:05:43,800 --> 02:05:45,360 Being Absolutely. A bit of a Dick. 2233 02:05:46,040 --> 02:05:47,880 And just one that kind of happens. 2234 02:05:47,880 --> 02:05:52,200 Back to the first ever Notes and Piano gallery on No Way Out. 2235 02:05:52,440 --> 02:05:58,040 Tom Cruise in white uniform dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot. 2236 02:05:59,240 --> 02:06:06,200 So, yeah, it's a good mix of unhinged, horny and just quite 2237 02:06:06,200 --> 02:06:09,800 insightful reviews from our excellent friends, the users of 2238 02:06:09,800 --> 02:06:13,360 Lana Box who make my job easy. Thank you. 2239 02:06:13,720 --> 02:06:16,120 Cool. That, I think, brings us to the 2240 02:06:16,120 --> 02:06:19,120 end of another edition of Sharing Present Dudes. 2241 02:06:19,120 --> 02:06:24,640 True on ICIA, sorry. Oh, right, yeah, I mean, that 2242 02:06:24,640 --> 02:06:28,960 depends, I suppose. Really. 2243 02:06:29,640 --> 02:06:32,120 The only way, the only thing I can think of right, is that is 2244 02:06:32,120 --> 02:06:35,600 that this whole movie is based on an incident that took place 2245 02:06:35,880 --> 02:06:38,480 at a problem base down in Guantanamo Bay. 2246 02:06:38,880 --> 02:06:43,560 And you know, the only reason that that base is there and we 2247 02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:47,480 got involved, they got involved with Cuba in the 1st place is 2248 02:06:47,800 --> 02:06:51,040 the Cold War and who had and who had a big hand and all that big. 2249 02:06:51,080 --> 02:06:53,000 CIA. Central, big Central 2250 02:06:53,000 --> 02:06:55,800 Intelligence Agency. So you know, it all goes back to 2251 02:06:55,800 --> 02:07:00,120 62, doesn't it? So it's a bit of a reach. 2252 02:07:00,200 --> 02:07:03,640 But if it either way, I think it goes slightly in the ante. 2253 02:07:04,960 --> 02:07:05,880 They're not really involved, do they? 2254 02:07:07,400 --> 02:07:10,000 The closest thing it gets to intelligence is saying that 2255 02:07:12,560 --> 02:07:15,600 Jessup's exo, the guy who disappeared and then domed 2256 02:07:15,600 --> 02:07:17,880 himself, worked at counterintelligence. 2257 02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:19,640 The Marines. So. 2258 02:07:20,320 --> 02:07:22,640 And he was really good. So he was like, he's gone. 2259 02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:24,680 So I guess it says they're really good at training them. 2260 02:07:24,680 --> 02:07:28,480 Actually, so like you would have had some, some CIA kind of 2261 02:07:29,080 --> 02:07:31,560 input. Who knows, maybe he was down in 2262 02:07:31,560 --> 02:07:35,080 the school of America as at one point maybe he was with the 2263 02:07:35,080 --> 02:07:38,960 dance squads. You could. 2264 02:07:39,120 --> 02:07:44,480 Make stretch the point a bit and make it to the movies distinctly 2265 02:07:44,480 --> 02:07:49,080 against abuse of power. That's true. 2266 02:07:49,560 --> 02:07:52,680 And then from there you extrapolate naturally that it's 2267 02:07:52,680 --> 02:08:00,080 probably against the say. That's a coin flip. 2268 02:08:00,080 --> 02:08:04,640 This one, I mean between either anti CIA or just entirely 2269 02:08:04,640 --> 02:08:10,800 ambivalent on it because I mean. I guess it's against reshaping 2270 02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:13,480 the narrative to suit your own ends and prove the truth. 2271 02:08:13,480 --> 02:08:17,320 Yeah. So that doesn't speak highly for 2272 02:08:17,320 --> 02:08:19,520 this. I think this is one in the anti 2273 02:08:19,520 --> 02:08:23,280 CIA box. Just yeah, just because of like 2274 02:08:23,280 --> 02:08:29,200 Aaron Sorkin's general outlook. Yeah, so what's the tally at 2275 02:08:29,200 --> 02:08:31,880 now? 12 happens to? 2276 02:08:31,920 --> 02:08:34,000 Let's work out which one's the poor Aunt I. 2277 02:08:35,080 --> 02:08:37,920 So no way out? Yeah, Auntie. 2278 02:08:37,960 --> 02:08:43,280 Yeah, Meteor. I can't remember what you said 2279 02:08:43,280 --> 02:08:44,280 for that. Ambivalent. 2280 02:08:44,280 --> 02:08:48,320 Yeah. Hunt for All October Pro. 2281 02:08:48,320 --> 02:08:51,200 Vehemently pro yeah. Vehemently pro yeah. 2282 02:08:52,680 --> 02:08:55,240 OP Centre didn't. They weren't involved. 2283 02:08:55,240 --> 02:08:56,640 Yeah, sure. He wasn't involved in that film 2284 02:08:56,640 --> 02:09:00,440 at all, Rosalie. Really striking distance not 2285 02:09:00,440 --> 02:09:05,160 involved. God War of the Worlds not not 2286 02:09:05,160 --> 02:09:11,360 involved the enemy of the state pro I think just because they 2287 02:09:11,400 --> 02:09:14,600 because they weren't the NSA. It was it was it was pro CIA of 2288 02:09:14,600 --> 02:09:18,760 identifying anti NSA. And June Hackman's character 2289 02:09:18,760 --> 02:09:20,000 being yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. 2290 02:09:21,280 --> 02:09:22,520 Because it was. It was broad, wasn't he? 2291 02:09:22,520 --> 02:09:25,240 Yeah. And God, what have you? 2292 02:09:25,240 --> 02:09:29,560 What was After that we did Crimson Tide, which was 2293 02:09:29,640 --> 02:09:33,360 ambivalent. The last one we did was 2294 02:09:33,360 --> 02:09:38,520 unstoppable, ambivalent and oh and Fred is the Condor which I 2295 02:09:38,520 --> 02:09:40,800 think is anti. Yeah, yeah. 2296 02:09:41,840 --> 02:09:44,480 So we're equals equals in there. And then we add on this as an 2297 02:09:44,480 --> 02:09:45,840 anti. So it's 3 to 2 I think. 2298 02:09:48,720 --> 02:09:52,000 Cool. So we'll keep, we'll keep track 2299 02:09:52,000 --> 02:09:53,880 of that. What's the next movie we're 2300 02:09:53,880 --> 02:09:55,040 going to do? I just had a pick. 2301 02:09:55,040 --> 02:09:59,000 So it's one of you guys. All right, we're going to go 2302 02:09:59,000 --> 02:10:01,160 apeshit. We're going to go nuts. 2303 02:10:02,400 --> 02:10:05,240 We are going to go for a film that I initially wanted to do 2304 02:10:05,240 --> 02:10:07,920 was my pick right when we started this podcast off. 2305 02:10:08,520 --> 02:10:12,760 We're going to go for the incredibly bonkers mid to late 2306 02:10:12,760 --> 02:10:16,000 2000s thriller that is Smoking Aces. 2307 02:10:17,680 --> 02:10:19,480 Wow. OK, cool. 2308 02:10:19,480 --> 02:10:22,240 Chris Payne, the cast of thousands. 2309 02:10:23,360 --> 02:10:25,800 It's going to be nuts. I'm really excited. 2310 02:10:25,920 --> 02:10:28,840 This film's crazy. I wanted to propose this for 2311 02:10:28,840 --> 02:10:31,640 like the first film we did, but it's so long, there's so much 2312 02:10:31,640 --> 02:10:36,720 stuff in it. It's a mental and I hope, I hope 2313 02:10:36,720 --> 02:10:39,560 the board approves of my request. 2314 02:10:42,320 --> 02:10:44,040 Yeah, absolutely. It's true. 2315 02:10:44,240 --> 02:10:47,880 True. Carnahan's Smoking Aces also did 2316 02:10:47,880 --> 02:10:49,040 knock. Do you remember Knock? 2317 02:10:49,040 --> 02:10:51,640 Yeah, God damn. Oh, bleak movie. 2318 02:10:52,120 --> 02:10:56,560 Yeah, Cool, awesome, so cool. So yeah, come back for episode 2319 02:10:56,560 --> 02:10:59,840 13 of Clear present Diesel. We'll be covering smoking aces. 2320 02:11:01,400 --> 02:11:05,960 If you'd like to pop a little like and subscribe and and any 2321 02:11:05,960 --> 02:11:07,680 kind of interaction whatsoever, that'd be great. 2322 02:11:07,680 --> 02:11:09,920 Share it with your friends, let people know if you're interested 2323 02:11:09,920 --> 02:11:11,120 in it. That'd be awesome. 2324 02:11:12,520 --> 02:11:17,120 I've I've been Mike. You can find us on threads at 2325 02:11:17,280 --> 02:11:20,200 Mike G 2049. You can find the podcast on 2326 02:11:20,440 --> 02:11:22,560 Instagram at at clear and present dudes. 2327 02:11:23,320 --> 02:11:27,320 You can find the podcast itself on YouTube, Spotify, Cast Box, 2328 02:11:27,480 --> 02:11:32,360 anywhere you like, Rory. Hi, yeah, so I'm Rory. 2329 02:11:32,360 --> 02:11:36,800 You'll find me on Twitter at Rory O'Toole. 2330 02:11:36,800 --> 02:11:42,840 That's RUARI O'Toole. I'm also on Instagram on, on the 2331 02:11:42,840 --> 02:11:45,000 same handle. I'm on Threads as well, which 2332 02:11:45,000 --> 02:11:48,160 I'm going to try and use more because YouTube just sorry, 2333 02:11:48,160 --> 02:11:52,360 YouTube, Twitter gives you more, just gives a psychic damage when 2334 02:11:52,360 --> 02:11:56,680 you look at it these days. So yeah, might be using threads 2335 02:11:56,680 --> 02:12:02,240 a little bit more, yeah. Cool. 2336 02:12:02,400 --> 02:12:05,400 Sonia. Yeah, Hi, I'm I've been Sonia. 2337 02:12:05,400 --> 02:12:09,440 I have continued to be Sonia, and if you can't find me on 2338 02:12:09,440 --> 02:12:14,080 social media, please don't send too many dual requests into our 2339 02:12:14,080 --> 02:12:16,480 inbox. I don't really have time to find 2340 02:12:16,480 --> 02:12:18,640 all of you. Thank you. 2341 02:12:20,400 --> 02:12:21,120 Great. Yeah, please. 2342 02:12:21,120 --> 02:12:22,960 And if you've got any suggestions, anything you want 2343 02:12:23,560 --> 02:12:26,480 to talk about, any correspondence, comments or 2344 02:12:26,480 --> 02:12:28,200 anything you want to do that you want to send to us in a more 2345 02:12:28,200 --> 02:12:30,320 long form format, then you can e-mail us at 2346 02:12:30,400 --> 02:12:36,000 clearandpresentdudes@gmail.com. Otherwise, guys, we have been. 2347 02:12:40,240 --> 02:12:43,880 Crap, almost there that time. Almost I. 2348 02:12:43,920 --> 02:12:44,360 Apologise.