1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,120 Gains represent. A clear and present danger of 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,200 national security of the United states you have. 3 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:19,120 No idea what. OK cool. 4 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,400 Hello and welcome back to Clear and Present Dudes, the podcast 5 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,240 that is always interested when we find leg irons. 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,320 We have no legs in them. I am Mike Zabar. 7 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:35,280 I am joined by Sonia Bjorkson. Hello everyone, I regret to 8 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,120 inform you that I am not the lakes to the lake irons for 9 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,160 mentioned. Some lakes are indeed missing 10 00:00:41,160 --> 00:00:44,080 from this podcast right now. Should have clap them in irons 11 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:46,480 possibly. Indeed, yeah we are. 12 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:50,240 We are missing Rory James O'Toole a little bit of a peek 13 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,080 behind the curtain into how the podcast is made. 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:57,200 It is the 2nd of March 2026 and Rory just hasn't turned up and 15 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,400 we don't know where he is. So hopefully best kiss scenario, 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,800 he pops in during the during the recording and we just crack on 17 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,640 like it's all fun. Worst case scenario, anything 18 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,080 has happened to him but he's not not returning your texts. 19 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,000 So I guess we're going to crack on and just see what happens, 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,280 eh? I came home. 21 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,880 There was a man in my house. He had an artificial arm. 22 00:01:21,960 --> 00:01:23,640 Are you saying that I killed my wife? 23 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:26,680 Are you? Saying that I. 24 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,160 Crushed. Her skull. 25 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:46,200 And that I shot her. All right, ladies and gentlemen, 26 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,200 listen up. We have a fugitive that's been 27 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,640 on the run for 90 minutes. What I want out of each and 28 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,120 everyone of you is a hard target. 29 00:01:52,120 --> 00:02:00,080 Search of every gas station, residence, warehouse, farmhouse, 30 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,680 hen house outhouse and dog house in this area. 31 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,160 Checkpoints will go up at 15 miles. 32 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,280 Your fugitive's name is Doctor Richard Kimble. 33 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:22,480 Go get him. Great news everyone. 34 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,880 Rory James O'sulle joined us 90 minutes into our recording. 35 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,480 We'll be starting again because God damn it, no man left behind. 36 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,160 Apart from that time we left signed behind twice. 37 00:02:36,640 --> 00:02:37,560 Thanks guys. Thanks. 38 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,280 Thanks for circling back and picking me up. 39 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,080 Wonderful, right? You gotta do this thing. 40 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:43,600 We're worn out. Sorry. 41 00:02:43,640 --> 00:02:46,600 We gotta gotta do these things. Since we're apparently keeping 42 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,040 count here, you still have one. Good for me. 43 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,320 You're 1 back Sonia. You're you're off my shit list. 44 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:59,920 Dead heat. Right the fugitive is a 1993 45 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:02,800 action film directed by Andrew Davis with a script Co written 46 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,840 by Jeff Stewart and David torhey from the previous story draft 47 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,080 which torhey had written. Based on the 1960s TV series, 48 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,880 itself loosely inspired by the trial of Sam Shepard. 49 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,200 Not the actor from the right stuff, but different Sam 50 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,080 Shepard. The film stars Harrison Ford, 51 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,280 Tommy Lee Jones, SEAL award, Joe Pantiliano, otherwise known as 52 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,720 Joey Pants, Andreas Capsulus and Drouin Krabbe. 53 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,280 After being framed for the murder of his wife and sentenced 54 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,000 to death, vascular surgeon doctor Richard Kimball Ford 55 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,200 escapes from custody following a bus crash. 56 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,200 Kimball sets out to find the real killer and declare his name 57 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,320 while being hunted by the police and a team of US Marshals led by 58 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,400 Deputy US Marshals Samuel Gerard Tommy Lee Jones. 59 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,560 This film was extremely successful critically and 60 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,080 commercially, spending six weeks as the number one film in the 61 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,000 United States, grossing nearly 317 million dollars worldwide 62 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,640 against a $44 million budget, and is the third highest 63 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:02,160 grossing film of 1993 worldwide, with an estimated 44 million 64 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,800 tickets sold in the United States. 65 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,160 It's had a chokehold on the box office when it came out, but 66 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,360 also critically nominated for seven Academy Awards, including 67 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,120 the Best Picture for a Thriller Movie, Incredible. 68 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,279 Tommy Jones won for Best Supporting Actor for a Thriller 69 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,360 Movie Incredible, and it was followed by the 1998 film US 70 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,120 Marshals, in which Jones reprised his role as Deputy 71 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,080 Marty Marshall Samuel Gerard. That film is not as good as this 72 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,080 film, but one day we will talk about it. 73 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:32,680 One of the one of one of the few films in the 90s that features 74 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,920 the phrase shag adelic baby. Rory, so glad you're here. 75 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,120 Thank you. Guys, what did you? 76 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,480 What do you think? Is he's no longer alone with the 77 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:45,480 awkward German. You are sensing you are 78 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,680 sentenced to isolation with the awkward German. 79 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,320 So, off offline behind the scenes, Rory, Sonia and I talked 80 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,920 about how Sonia had only discovered this film this week, 81 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,320 which blew my mind. Yeah. 82 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,640 Because this is one of those films that I've seen about 1000 83 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,880 times growing up and I think I rediscovered in my like late 84 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,200 20s. What's your experience with the 85 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,520 future? Very much a dad quoted film, 86 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,280 very much a watch with rule man kind of film to people of my 87 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,320 generation and yours make not so much these zoomers like Sonia. 88 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,560 Yeah. He's Bus and Janzads. 89 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,440 Yeah. Excuse. 90 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:20,800 You. What year were you born in 91 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,160 Sanya? I like to count myself as a late 92 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:25,600 millennial. Thank you very much. 93 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,240 What? The hell is a late millennial? 94 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:29,440 I'm not. I don't believe in this 95 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,880 gatekeeping by generation. Unless, hang on, what? 96 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:39,560 When were you born? 7, 97. 97 Janzad. 97 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,080 You were -4 when this film came out. 98 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:47,000 You're a fucking zoomer. Don't throw me in with these 6-7 99 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,920 weirdos. That's OK, man. 100 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,680 That's that's all right. We're going to we're. 101 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,360 All right, I'm going to offer myself now. 102 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,040 Bye. We're going to we're going to 103 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,000 call you a late millennial in a whole through deck cruise, that 104 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,440 kind of thing, right, You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 105 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,000 That's how we justify getting you through Parliament's on. 106 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,080 You This is how we justify the whole thing. 107 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:10,000 I saw a sort of angry take online only yesterday because it 108 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,760 then Exa wanted to claim scrubs as their own. 109 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:14,400 Fuck. Off. 110 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,400 Fuck off, that's. Ours. 111 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:22,680 That is ours. That show is fucking ours and as 112 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,800 someone who worked in a hospital, it's kind of true for 113 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,360 life. We've been re watching it from 114 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:27,440 the beginning. Actually, there's a couple of 115 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,600 years we watched the two new episodes that came on and yeah, 116 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,800 it's really good. I don't know that's the the 117 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,800 millennial in me, but they're really good. 118 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,920 Really sticks to landing. It's never one of those shows by 119 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,440 this. Actually, you missed it when we 120 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,360 were talking about the intro, but I was talking about 121 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,840 shrinking and it's another Bill Lawrence show like shrinking is. 122 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,440 I was just, I was talking about Harrison Ford, mate, because he 123 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,800 did an incredible speech at the Actors Awards last night. 124 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,920 But yeah, anyway, cool. In Chicago, vascular surgeon 125 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,360 doctor Richard Kimball is arrested for the murder of his 126 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,400 wife, Helen. Despite his claims that he 127 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,160 caught a man with a prosthetic arm in the act, Helen's 128 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,640 misinterpreted 911 call and substantial life insurance 129 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,360 policy. So there's evidence against 130 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,720 Kimball and he is convicted of her murder and sentenced to 131 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,800 death. This all happens in 15 minutes 132 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:12,960 in the film. Incredible. 133 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,680 It's really impressive, fits so much storytelling. 134 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,400 It's such a really tight, compact space and time. 135 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,880 It doesn't need to show you the insurance and outs of a dramatic 136 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,360 long court case because it would be a long court case. 137 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:27,960 It would be like a long capital trailer. 138 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,000 It would be fucking year or so or or more, you know, because 139 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,320 all it needs is the final thing that they believe is damning 140 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,840 evidence. When to play the 911 call and 141 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,840 it's this reasonable fucking doubt right that she's she's 142 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,960 she's just saying his name, but it's. 143 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,480 Interesting is that. Yeah, So audiences would have 144 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,040 not long having their memories. Harrison Ford's in the dock 145 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,280 again, 1991's presumed innocent. Yes, as hot hotshot lawyer Rusty 146 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,080 Savage, who's accused of murdering his mistress. 147 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,920 So it's not the first time they've seen Harrison Ford in 148 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,920 the dock, I guess. I guess maybe they were thinking 149 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,520 right and again, a lot of changes occurred when Harrison 150 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,000 came on the project as well. So maybe he was thinking like we 151 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,680 don't need to drug out this court case. 152 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,680 It's not about that. So we'll show the opening 153 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,840 argument from the prosecutor and the verdict. 154 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,640 We skip everything else. We don't go, we don't even see 155 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,480 like a montage of the evidence being shown. 156 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,160 Obviously get the 911 call as well. 157 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,600 Sorry. So you got the opening remarks, 158 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,760 as you say, the 911 call, which is horrible because it cuts back 159 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,880 to Sealer Ward like in a flashback doing it. 160 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:36,120 Horrible. It is legitimately some hard 161 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,840 fucking scenes for a nice film. I mean literally sounds actually 162 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,520 is dying at one point. It's some it's, it's some good 163 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,280 like bashed in the head kind of acting from our guests and it is 164 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,160 horrible to hear. Yeah, big time. 165 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,760 I like the economy of how they show the state of their marriage 166 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:55,960 as well. It's maybe it's a little 167 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,720 heavy-handed. So they get back from from the 168 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,880 function that they're at some gala, some fundraising thing, 169 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,360 all to do with probasic probably. 170 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,760 And to demonstrate that they are in a healthy relationship. 171 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,880 He obviously gives him call does does the surgery for his oppo. 172 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:17,320 Meanwhile, she's like dousing the house in rose petals. 173 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,120 Yeah, yeah, like, and he's on a promise. 174 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,360 And then she's kind of like breadcrumbing them up the stairs 175 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,600 with a bitsig discarded lingerie and stuff and. 176 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,840 Yeah, It's like, yeah, OK. A good, good visual shorthand 177 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,680 for things are OK at home, don't worry. 178 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,640 Even though he has like the worst beard, it just looks 179 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,440 really like like for for Harrison Ford to have a beard 180 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,280 like that. He's absolutely nerfed himself. 181 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,320 It's like Neil. It's like Neil Brain status. 182 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,040 Yeah, yeah. What happened? 183 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,880 I never had a beard. I never had a beard. 184 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,480 Fucking shave. Love God, I never had a beard. 185 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,960 Yeah, it is. It is. 186 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,240 That bad? I. 187 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,880 Cannot believe I look worse with a beard. 188 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,800 I can't get you out of this one. Like that? 189 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,000 Can't get you out of this one, Richard. 190 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,520 Opening credits, by the way. We get like that weird kind of 191 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,720 inverses, colour palette shots of the murder taking place. 192 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,200 So we see that pretty, pretty, pretty. 193 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,520 That's pretty shocking, pretty effective. 194 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,800 And it puts us into the state like the murders in the past, 195 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,000 it's already happened, even though we kind of the times of 196 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,800 it would be wobbly here to make it all work. 197 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,680 But it sticks the landing because before we know it, we're 198 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,560 in the back of the bus on the way to prison. 199 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:37,000 And I think the film does a really good job of giving us 200 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:42,200 like, the defining character beats for Kimball in this state 201 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,640 the world is in now. So we don't have to learn who he 202 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,000 is before the murders happened because we're learning about a 203 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,040 different guy, because the guy who's been sentenced to death is 204 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,760 fundamentally a different guy from the guy who was at the 205 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:54,880 very, very beginning of the film, right? 206 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,120 So we see who he is now. And I think that's important 207 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,360 because it shows us that he's still a good person, right? 208 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:02,960 The humanity has not gone from him. 209 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:09,120 So we're in the bus, One of the other inmates his fashion to 210 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,200 shave and has hit it in the sock. 211 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,400 Yeah, and he does incredible job of faking some kind of a 212 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,200 seizure, doesn't he? And like, frothing in the mouth, 213 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,160 that's like, fucking really impressive. 214 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:19,840 Yeah, yeah. If anyone deserves the Best 215 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,000 Supporting Actor nom, it's him. It's Prisoner. 216 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,160 Prisoner who frothed at mouth. Yeah. 217 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,560 And he, because the bus is like 40 minutes out from the prison 218 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,240 and these fucking all security guards or state troopers or 219 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,320 whatever they are, are like fucking talking about like what? 220 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,160 I'm really hungry. I can't, Oh, we'll get some, get 221 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,440 some chow And what? They go to the prison and 222 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,520 whatever fucking hell, Copeland to the back of the bus. 223 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,360 He's just fucking horses. I'm sorry, they're just a horse. 224 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,160 I can't wait to have a fifth meal of the day. 225 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,680 Have a fat lazy corrections guy who God damn. 226 00:11:50,680 --> 00:11:54,960 But you know, yeah, because. It's Richard Real, right? 227 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,480 Who is otherwise known as Not Wolf Wolford Brimley. 228 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,040 Yeah. But he picks up all the rules 229 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,120 that Wolford Brimley doesn't want. 230 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,360 Like he would have been here waiting in the wings to get an 231 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,080 op centre. He's he's off brand. 232 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,440 He's off brand Pound world version. 233 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,880 Yeah, big type so and I'm sure he's a very good performer, 234 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,280 obviously very good character actor, etcetera, etcetera, 235 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,880 etcetera, but very funny in this and he's got a really good long 236 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,400 career behind him as well. Yeah, so Copeland, the the 237 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,640 African American guy at the back of the bus yells and yells and 238 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,000 yells. Yeah, Kimball's just a bit like 239 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,440 what is going on? Oh my God. 240 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,080 Yeah. They open up the the doorway to 241 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,240 go to the back of the bus and the guy shranks the guard and he 242 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,720 falls on the deck. Richard Reel dramatically 243 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:42,760 overreacts by by blasting the guy in the chest with a shotgun 244 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,760 and then that that kind of Spooks the bus driver, who kind 245 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:47,800 of swerves a little bit of the road. 246 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,840 And then Richard Reel shoots in the general direction of the bus 247 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,200 driver. Oh my God. 248 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,720 That's just like. Understandable reaction. 249 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,520 Do you know what it is? I'm going to keep fucking 250 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,960 drawing reference to this guy. It's like a fucking irritating 251 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,920 Charlie with a spoon guy from Butcher Course. 252 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,880 I'm just that stupid fucking frog guy, that amorphic fucking 253 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,360 tree frog with his sticky hands and says the word. 254 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,320 Oh, it's stuck to my hand. I don't know. 255 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,600 It gets hand stuck in the window and shit, it's like that. 256 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,360 It's like giving him a job as a fucking prison guard. 257 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,240 It's terrible. That's my first day. 258 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,160 Jesus, I'm so sorry. So obviously the bus crashes. 259 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,040 It's it's piling through these rural roads in the middle of the 260 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,200 night and yeah, swings off, goes down a long ditch, rules down 261 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,920 there. Really well done crash, by the 262 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,200 way. It looks fantastic. 263 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,080 Still was the all practically done. 264 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,560 Very nice stuff. That was something that we 265 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:38,400 grabbed me how good the practical effects were. 266 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:44,240 I mean, also like recent car crash experience here and 267 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,160 probably probably being in more car crashes than than than you 268 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,120 guys as well. I think I've gotten the most out 269 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,680 of this team. The surprising Top Gear coded 270 00:13:51,680 --> 00:13:53,160 sentence. Yeah. 271 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,640 Out of this team, I have the most OK Hammond. 272 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,200 It's true, but I'm just saying, do you know what it is? 273 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,440 But one day someone's going to sit and do the stats for their 274 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,240 show. So yeah, one of the things I'm 275 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,840 taught by as I've got the most fucking car crashes, survived 276 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,440 all of them. The bus crash scenes. 277 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,560 Amazements. Really, really just legit to me, 278 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:15,360 at at at just really good filmmaking. 279 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,480 Nothing looks fake about it. Like you said, it's all 280 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,600 practical effects. That's just a great time in 281 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,680 filmmaking for this kind of thing. 282 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,360 They obviously had like a, I don't know if it was a one to 283 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,200 one size rig for it, but they must have had a decent sized rig 284 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,200 for the actual rolling down the hill piece because I was looking 285 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,080 at the foliage and going. A good way to see if it's model 286 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,520 work is to look at the trees and stuff. 287 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,120 Yeah, no, but they looked, they looked legit. 288 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,280 They were real trees, so they obviously did some. 289 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:42,640 Things. On location. 290 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,280 Nothing's banging against trees. It was amazing. 291 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,400 And of course then then we got the scene done where when, when 292 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,320 he's trying to get the guard to unshackle him. 293 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:52,360 So. He yeah, yeah. 294 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:53,840 So this is like one of the character beats. 295 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,280 So so the the bus comes to a good to rest. 296 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,880 We see a brilliant shot through the window of like the train 297 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:02,920 track that has landed on and the oncoming lights of a train. 298 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,720 It's like oh work like as flying pan meet fire. 299 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,880 And, and I love, I love I was just shot over the dead guy's 300 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,600 feet as well. Like it's like APOV from the Ted 301 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,120 guy. It's like, I don't know why. 302 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,040 It's great. I just love it. 303 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,600 It's really good and I tell you one thing as well, and this is 304 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,720 one of the few things I will say in favour of the sequel, US 305 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,120 Marshals, and that's obviously starts with a plane crash. 306 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,720 Yeah. That's done broadly, really, 307 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,280 really well. There's a lot of nature work in 308 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:31,760 it. So some of it doesn't look as 309 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,240 good, but the pieces inside the plane look really, really good. 310 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,640 And the same with this as well. I got a lot of proud stuff. 311 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,120 Really, really good. Anyway, as you say, your boy, 312 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,280 your boy Richard Kimball is asking for to get his handcuffs 313 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:44,720 off so he can help the guard on the ground. 314 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,240 Basically like pressures Richard reel and to give them to him by 315 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,920 being intimidating and loud and gives them to him. 316 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,680 He'll die otherwise. He does that. 317 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,600 He haplessly like drops the keys on the deck. 318 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,560 Copeland picks them up and like surreptitiously and obviously 319 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,160 like let's him himself free and stuff, you think, and then that 320 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,920 guy bugs out and you think, oh, that guy's just fucked off 321 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:02,680 Brilliant. Great. 322 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,800 What a terrible swine he is. Kimball's I think stabilises the 323 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,680 guy on the deck. And then because the trans 324 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,760 company's like, I need you to help me get him off the bus. 325 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,520 I can't do it on my own. I need you to help me get him 326 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,560 off the bus. And then the old guard is what 327 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,080 he's accredited as, which is real. 328 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,600 It's just like, no, just can't do it and just fucks off and 329 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,080 just leaves. Piece of shit. 330 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,640 But against the odds, Kimball gets him out and in the final 331 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,320 like second, I think is it like is he? 332 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,160 I don't know if the fans like in this, but Copeland is there and 333 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,920 could pull them out at the last second to help them out. 334 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,480 So that's how they get out the crash and then the train smashes 335 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:36,920 into it. It's. 336 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:41,200 Just that incredible stunt when when Richard Kimble jumps off 337 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,640 the train, just jumps out, was just before us hit that second, 338 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:51,880 the timing, you've got a you've got a display as a stuntman in 339 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,000 that. Yeah, right. 340 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,280 That's that's insane. And again, we'll have this like 341 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,320 slower than you'd expect kind of a derailment scene when the 342 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,920 train just ploughs along through the earth and it's like 343 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,800 incredible stuff. Really good. 344 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,160 Yeah, there's a lot of really good physicality to the stunts 345 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,800 in this section. And it really does like open the 346 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,560 film with The Big Bang. It kind of sets its stall out. 347 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,319 It's like this is this is going to be a good movie, guys. 348 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,680 I like how I think. So again, this is all 1st 20 349 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,800 minutes like this isn't we're not not far into it at all. 350 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,520 And we've had like so much plot get delivered like in an 351 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,760 efficient way, like that's complimentary, that's good. 352 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,880 And then and then this massive action sequence to get us to the 353 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,920 point where like Kim was on the run, he and Copeland kind of 354 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,960 split this separate ways. He says to Copeland like be 355 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,880 good, very funny. Copeland's like, I don't care 356 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,160 which where you go, just don't follow me. 357 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,880 Cool, happy days. And then Kim was on the run and 358 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,880 and as I always say, like we're off to the races. 359 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:54,320 The next thing we get is like the assembled local Sheriff's 360 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,400 Department news media and that piece of shit old guard holding 361 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,480 court in the middle of it all talking about his experiences 362 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,000 surviving this. This bus crash paid for himself. 363 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,920 Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely yeah, that's yeah, 364 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,960 disgusting. Used the word glazing, but 365 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,320 absolutely, absolutely accurate. He is glazing himself like a 366 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:18,120 like a like a prized doughnut about how about how how he saved 367 00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:19,640 that guy's life. Isn't he doesn't even remember 368 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:20,640 how he did. He glosses over it. 369 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,960 It's just like, oh, I don't know how I did it, but I must have 370 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,040 got about it there. It's like, fuck you and then and 371 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,160 then assumes dead for Kimball and Copeland and stuff. 372 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,480 But that shit won't and and hey, we've got away with it too. 373 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,160 They hadn't been for those pesky US Marshals. 374 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:36,920 Yeah. So. 375 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,320 Turning up and logging everyone. Exactly. 376 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:44,760 Yeah, they bug everyone. Cortisol spikes all over wall 377 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:49,280 Wall cortisol spikes 1. So I love, yeah, I absolutely 378 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,080 love, Clearly. Mentally you are the zoomer 379 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,480 generation mugged. Right. 380 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,880 That's just good for these guys. So we have our four deputy US 381 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,560 Marshals who are making up our kind of quote, unquote, 382 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,760 antagonist. We have Deputy Samuel Gerard, 383 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,280 played by Somebody Jones, as the leader of that merry band. 384 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:15,920 We have Julie Pantiliano as Cosmo Renfro, brilliant 385 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,120 jewellery pants. Excellent. 386 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:19,400 By the way, maybe we'll talk about in casting, but I've 387 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,560 watched him in one demand in the last week and he's fantastic in 388 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:23,520 it. Hilarious. 389 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,360 Great show, heavily recommended. I don't see that for Marvel 390 00:19:26,360 --> 00:19:30,160 lightly. Yeah, Daniel Reubuck plays Biggs 391 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,640 and L Scott Caldway. Well, Scott Caldwell plays pool 392 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:36,920 and that is our gang. My only criticism of this movie. 393 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,720 My only criticism, right. And this is like a mileage may 394 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,800 very and this is just a pure taste thing, but I think they 395 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,920 ham the bounce up for these guys like up to 11. 396 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,600 And I think it would have been fine like a nine and a half like 397 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,720 not a big change required. Just like a little, you know, 398 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,360 like this is like proper like Ross Geller, but just a little, 399 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,360 just a tiny little bit less, just a tiny little squish the 400 00:19:58,360 --> 00:20:01,320 hands just a little bit less. Yeah, not in this scene, though. 401 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,240 This is this is flawless. This is like a perfect 402 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:04,320 introduction to these guys. It. 403 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,720 Really is. It really is. 404 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,120 Yeah, really good. You have like the little bit of 405 00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:10,400 answer in the car because, you know, I don't know, I can't 406 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,400 remember what they're talking about. 407 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,120 But Joey Pats is complaining about something because he 408 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:14,480 complaints about stuff in the whole movie. 409 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,960 And then Tommy Jones gets there. He's like flashing his badge to 410 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,320 get past people. He breaks into this, this group 411 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,480 of people who all mug initially, they mug him off like the local 412 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,640 sheriff. This is like a classic trope, 413 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,080 the old local law enforcement falling out with the the federal 414 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,360 law enforcement. Yeah. 415 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:35,800 Played straight but then he just mugs him straight away. 416 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,680 Yeah, he just walks into this big circle jerk and he's like, 417 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,440 hey guys, you know, we're in charge and like the local sharks 418 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,240 like, well, OK, guess we're all gonna go home. 419 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,680 It's fine. And and then he's like, well, 420 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,160 no, listen here, you little shit kind. 421 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,960 Of yeah, listen, like it's like, Oh well, what? 422 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,960 By what authority? And it's like he has like, 423 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,920 literally the judge, the District Court, like judge, 424 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,160 whatever it is, and it's listed out in like extreme detail. 425 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,160 As well, like I love that gives him essentially the fucking 426 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,480 bullet pointed list of the reasons why yeah yes, yeah he is 427 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,960 going to go. And then as that's happening, 428 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,680 just a really poor salt on the wound, one of the local cops 429 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,240 happens to find the leg irons and just presents them into if 430 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,240 everybody like a dead cat like on the table. 431 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,640 It's so good. It's like leg ions with no legs 432 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,200 in them or whatever, he says. And it's like. 433 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:19,840 That's what he says. Yeah. 434 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,240 Like, oh, what's interesting, can we find leg? 435 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,680 I answer no legs on him. Love that. 436 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,920 So then and then he's like, then, you know, knowing luck at 437 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,680 Richard Reels, old guard. Do you want to revise your 438 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,480 statements, Sir? He's like, oh, well, well, 439 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,080 maybe. Maybe they are alive actually. 440 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,280 What fucking maybe? Jesus. 441 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:36,880 Fucking maybe. Yeah. 442 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,640 So, so we got that and we got the whole like then he does like 443 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,080 the ticks charging, everybody got around. 444 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,880 Me. You know I want an all points 445 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,560 search out, you know. Yeah. 446 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,040 Every dog house. Hen House. 447 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,600 House. I want three OPS rooms and I 448 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,120 want them now. Pretty much, you know, the 449 00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:59,040 average speed of advance for a, a, a person on the ground is 4 450 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,200 miles an hour and he's been gone for 90 minutes. 451 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,200 Therefore he's still there's a Six Mile radius and all that 452 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,440 kind of stuff. Yeah, and track. 453 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,040 Of that 15, yeah. Yeah, yeah. 454 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,840 So all that so, and this is really cool. 455 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,160 So I like this a lot because straight away, like I like 456 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,040 Harrison Ford 'cause he's the, he's the, he's the protagonist 457 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,440 and he's innocent and he's been a nice guy so far. 458 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,640 I really like Tommy Lee Jones 'cause he's a professional and 459 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,480 he's fun and he's obviously not a good, he's not a mean spirited 460 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,760 evil guy. So now we have a movie with like 461 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,280 essentially 2 protagonists but they're at loggerheads. 462 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,640 But we like them both, and I think that's great. 463 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,680 What was that I wrote down about actually as pursuer but not as 464 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,520 nemesis? And I think that kind of kind of 465 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,080 nails that He's his pursuer, but he's not as Nemesis. 466 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,200 He's. Meanwhile, so he flees the 467 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,520 scene. He he sleeps rough overnight 468 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,480 under a pile of leaves and doesn't look comfortable at all 469 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,480 by the way. And the next morning? 470 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,160 Yeah, I get itchy just looking at it. 471 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,280 Yeah, horrible. And it's wet as well. 472 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,280 I don't know. Surprised he didn't get like, a 473 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,760 hypothermia. Kimball sneaks into a hospital, 474 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,400 the first of several hospital infiltrations he will conduct in 475 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,200 the course of this film. Just just. 476 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,920 An epic fucking tradecraft. Yeah. 477 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,440 For for a guy with no training and it's brilliant how instantly 478 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,840 good he is at it. To be honest, I love it. 479 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,880 It really is. It really is good just blending 480 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,720 into the background, sticks into a guy's room, gives himself a 481 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,920 tetanus shot, dresses and stitches his own wound on his 482 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,800 side, goes into the guy's room just This is his new special 483 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,560 move that he does several times in the film, which you really 484 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,280 like, which is him hiding behind a doorway and hoping not to get 485 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,280 noticed. Yeah, that was really smart. 486 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,160 How he holds it open and hides behind it was like fucking 487 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,280 smooth man. Yeah, it's Wiles. 488 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,280 Because he's not technically, like, not visible. 489 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,440 There's a mirror right in front of him. 490 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,560 Like he's in the mirror reflection. 491 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,640 So, like, she could have seen him and it would have been like 492 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,360 some terrifying like Twin Peaks, like Bob souping over the bed, 493 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:53,480 kind of kind of. Moment. 494 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,600 Really terrified, but yeah, awful. 495 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,920 That nurse leaves. He, he shaves his beard off. 496 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,480 He's an absolute mess all over the sink. 497 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,040 But you know, he's, he's, he's in a rush, steals that guy's 498 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:12,040 lunch and then steals a like a like a lab coat and escapes out 499 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,200 of the hospital. Has an encounter with a state 500 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,200 trooper along the way and there's a brilliant exchange 501 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,320 which is like a say a trooper has got it's got like the facts 502 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,880 of The Wanted a poster with his picture on it and description 503 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,040 and he just goes, hey doc, you haven't haven't seen like a a 504 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,560 guy who's about 6 foot brown hair, blue eyes, a beard. 505 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,040 He's just like, only every time I look in the mirror, pal. 506 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,160 Except for. The beard he's just shaved off, 507 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,880 it's like. It's just smooth with it. 508 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,680 It's, it's just incredibly smooth. 509 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,320 And this is a guy who's literally fighting for his life 510 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,200 and trying to escape the death sentence, and he's got time for 511 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,680 just his amazing bit of social combat there, you know? 512 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,400 He's incredible, isn't he? Fantastic. 513 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,400 What and? That's like that's just Harrison 514 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,440 Ford's voice as well. Just carries that like what what 515 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,560 what I wouldn't give to be called kids or. 516 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,960 How? By by Harrison Ford in a 517 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,640 conversation. If Harrison Ford continues, 518 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,480 like, OK kid, like, oh man. Say it again. 519 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,160 Say it again. Record it. 520 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,520 Just call me kids. Oh my. 521 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,680 God, oh. My God, pal. 522 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,160 Yeah, short surprise. Oh. 523 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,560 My God, call me short round fucking girl. 524 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,040 As he's stepping outside of the car park, just what happens, an 525 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,680 ambulance arrives carrying the guard that was injured, that 526 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,880 they found I guess amongst all the wreckage. 527 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,640 I guess the only way they can explain this is that they didn't 528 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,600 find them for ages and that's why we just get into the 529 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,920 hospital now. Yeah, so you do get one of the 530 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,560 search as they are. We've we've we've got a live 1. 531 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,960 Then they find the guard which kind of doesn't fully drive 532 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,960 because the guard who is glazing himself all over us talking 533 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,840 about getting someone out of the train, right. 534 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,360 So the only way it makes sense that bit is if he's bragging 535 00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:53,720 that he got that other guard out, but they're just assuming 536 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,960 he's dead anyway because his body wasn't found in the 537 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,960 wreckage I guess. Yeah, so why is he? 538 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,240 Yeah. So why is he even bringing it 539 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,840 up? Because if he then also because 540 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,040 he then also knows that guard's alive, which he doesn't in the 541 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,600 film because he bugged out and run away. 542 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,520 Fuck, we found a real plot hole in the future there. 543 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,480 An actual plot hole and not just something that we didn't 544 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:17,040 understand or like, wow, fucking hell, man. 545 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,440 Rarity. I was saying to Sonia before you 546 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,400 arrived, I was rude what we were going to bring to this because 547 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,480 like, this film has been covered so much and it's like such a 548 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,960 critically claimed movie. Would we have anything relevant 549 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,480 to say? Well, we found something cool. 550 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,240 It's still a great movie though. In the words of Track Ryan, son 551 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,000 of a bitch. Son of a bitch. 552 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,480 It's his wife's birthday. Son of a bitch, right? 553 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,160 Crazy Ivan. He always creates plot holes on 554 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,840 the bottom half of the hour. Anyway, the EMTs will bring that 555 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,360 guy in. He kind of doctors his way into 556 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:50,800 the conversation, puts. The face mask on his face to 557 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,160 shut him up because he's identified. 558 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:59,000 He was like, it's anyway, yeah. And then he steals the 559 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,320 ambulance. Which is. 560 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,560 Cool not like a not the first choice for vehicle. 561 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,840 You would steal an ambulance that people are definitely going 562 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,240 to miss, like immediately. It's overt. 563 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,680 It's COVID. Yeah. 564 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,840 Hiding in plain sight isn't. It yeah, I mean, I guess like I, 565 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,400 I guess it's a vehicle that he can flip the flip the lights and 566 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,840 horns on and just like smash on through traffic, which he does 567 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,160 because he's blown through Reds. He's he's. 568 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,720 He's. Yeah, like he's doing the high 569 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,080 country driving, throwing that thing round. 570 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,720 It's like he really can do anything. 571 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,320 Candy. Like I'd say you, you, you just 572 00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:38,120 don't suspend your disbelief that this vascular surgeon can 573 00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:41,520 do this absolute super spy shit and then steal this ambulance 574 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,400 because he's just so fucking cool. 575 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,320 Because he's. Yeah. 576 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,600 By Harrison Ford, who's now shaved his little beard off as 577 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,160 well. His old man Bob Ross Beard has 578 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,160 been removed, so now he's like, oh, it's cool, Harrison Ford 579 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,680 again. Yeah, it's got rid of his 580 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,480 ridiculous Neil Green beard that looked like more of a disguise 581 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,120 than his actual disguise of feeling himself. 582 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,320 What what's he wearing at like Gar at the start again? 583 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,120 He's got like a, he's got like a Ivor. 584 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,160 He's got like a really colourful bow tie on or he's got some like 585 00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:11,800 waistcoat on. But he looks like a fucking 586 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,360 professional snooker player. He's got a very silly waistcoat 587 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:19,680 on and he looks like John Virgo. God rest his soul, he only died 588 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,600 the. Soul, rest in peace, John Virgo. 589 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,120 He looks like him. That's that's. 590 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,080 What it was, I was trying to place it, I was like, yeah, 591 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,720 there's a transviable. It's available now. 592 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:31,600 If, oh, they had a ponytail folk musician. 593 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,400 Yeah, right. OK. 594 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,680 I'm glad we got to the bottom of that. 595 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:36,040 Yeah. So. 596 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,440 So the call comes in, They've located the ambulance. 597 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,920 Someone's seen the ambulance. So everyone hops in the choppers 598 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,560 to to start the hot pursuit. It ends pretty abruptly. 599 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,240 So we have a really cool scene though, and obviously I got 600 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,880 myself a little bit bummed out when I was watching the film 601 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,880 because there's a really cool scene where they're in the 602 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,040 helicopter and Samuel Gerard is like directing people talking 603 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,960 down various comms or whatever. And then in the background of 604 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,280 the shot, we have the ambulance driving along like a Cliff side 605 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,520 Rd. Yeah, it was in the same shot. 606 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,240 Really, really good shot. Love it. 607 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,320 But during that shot, I was thinking to myself, oh, man, 608 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,440 when I watched this as a kid, I bet I would have thought 609 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,440 Harrison Ford was really driving that ambulance right now. 610 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,280 But obviously right now it's just somebody else driving an 611 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,160 ambulance because like, why would they pay Harrison Ford 612 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,720 driving an ambulance? And as I was having that 613 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,200 thought, I got sad at myself going. 614 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,840 Oh, I just ruined the magic the. Movie for a minute. 615 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,200 Devastating. Yeah, it really was. 616 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,720 I really enjoyed about the scene and the vibes it brings and 617 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,000 stuff. The way it's put together is I 618 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,400 really like how Sam Grodd's dialogue is kind of the audio is 619 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,320 like through through what's meant to be the planes, sorry, 620 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,200 the helicopter that kind of like comes and you only hear on one 621 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,520 side of it. You only hear on his like 622 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,320 instructions. There's nothing back and forth 623 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,280 with someone else. I think that's brilliant. 624 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,560 It puts you into the. IT puts into the location. 625 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,920 Yeah, this film shreds a fine line between like going too 626 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,840 hardcore with authentic stuff and then still having fun for 627 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,200 like, you know, big and these movie action thrills and spills. 628 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,760 And it treads that line really, really well, I think because it 629 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,200 does this stuff like you just described. 630 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,280 And then the next thing we get is the whole bit with the 631 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,560 helicopter, like touches down at the end of the tunnel as he's 632 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,800 driving through the tunnel. And like the police cars, like 633 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,240 jump up the back of the tunnel and he's like, like, caught in a 634 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,520 rat and a trap. And you got all the police, like 635 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,680 running through the tunnel. You've got a one idiot who gets 636 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,480 up his car. He's like, what's going on? 637 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:29,560 And he's like Dick, stupid Dick, like Jesus Christ, What do you 638 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,440 think's happening? Yeah fucking fucking nothing 639 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,120 good for you to be involved in mate. 640 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,600 There are people with red jackets and guns and the 641 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,240 helicopter just landed. Maybe just get really low inside 642 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,600 your car and just wait until a large man with a rifle tells you 643 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,320 it's OK to leave. Yeah, exactly. 644 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,040 Yeah, yeah. Wait for the police to come and, 645 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,640 like, knock on your window. Like, yeah. 646 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,280 Kimball escapes down a storm drain and when he realises the 647 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,280 only way he can go is down. Yeah. 648 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,480 It looks improbable because it looks like a really narrow drain 649 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,400 he got in, but he does it and you see him do it. 650 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,600 It's pretty, pretty impressive. It's not like Jackie Chan going 651 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,520 for that little thing in rush hour, but it's like it's 652 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,960 similar. Very cool. 653 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,960 The team will see it. Tommy Jones Summer Gerard says 654 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,840 we got a Gopher. Got to go. 655 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,240 I like. That they say shit like that, 656 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,680 but I also want to they're like, how often does that happen that 657 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:19,960 you need to cope with a negative for it? 658 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,880 He doesn't say it like I've I've thought of a fun thing. 659 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,120 I'm going to call this a Gopher. He says it like if said it like 660 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,080 10,000 times. He says it like he gets a Gopher 661 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,120 every 3rd day of the week. And and and it's funny to say he 662 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,800 pulls somebody else on. We are jogging lately when it 663 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,960 gives a guy grief for using the word hinky. 664 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,600 So it's like. Yeah, Sam, John. 665 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,760 Sam John is very precise in the odd language. 666 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,080 He likes people to use and not use, you know? 667 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,080 You know what? Hink, hinky, hinky. 668 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,560 Maxing for a second when we did this. 669 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,800 When? We did the Sicario episode. 670 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,200 I said hinky, and I caught myself going, why did I say 671 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,200 hinky? And it's because of this film. 672 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,560 Fuck. And I hadn't watched it yet 673 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,720 again. It was just already in there. 674 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,000 Brilliant. Embedded. 675 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,120 Awesome, now we get the iconic sequence made more iconic by The 676 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,320 Simpsons of Milhouse. Sorry, Kimball in the the dam at 677 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,120 the spillway holding the gun to Gerard, pointing as he does. 678 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:13,960 If he's not pointing, I think he is pointing. 679 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,280 He's certainly pointing in my mind going. 680 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,440 I didn't. Kill my wife. 681 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,360 Yeah, yeah. And then, then Gerard's hands 682 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,640 up. I don't care. 683 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,840 Yeah. Really great way for us probably 684 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,120 about half an hour into the film to set out the store of these 685 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,760 two characters. Like really just very clearly 686 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,280 announces the motivation to these guys. 687 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,840 Your boy Kimball is on a search for truth and justice and to 688 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,760 clear his name. And Samuel Gerard just wants to 689 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,000 catch his man. He's a mountain. 690 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,080 He just used to get his guy and both very noble pursuits, you 691 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,680 know, without without without fear and a favour. 692 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,840 He just wants to get his guy and and put him back into the 693 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,440 justice system from which he escaped from. 694 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,480 And I think I like that scene a lot because it shows us that 695 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,720 this is the movie saying you're allowed to root for both these 696 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,720 guys. Yeah, definitely it is put. 697 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:04,880 That gun down. Put that gun. 698 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,640 Down now, like, like Tommy Lee Jones isn't being a cunt about 699 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,320 this, basically, yeah. And then you got pretty 700 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,080 obviously iconic kibble. Throws himself just steps 701 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,520 backwards, falls off the spillway. 702 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,680 My glasses. Yeah, you see, now. 703 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,840 You see, you've totally broken my mind now. 704 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,680 Because now, right, I'm imagining Milhouse in those 705 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,480 flashbacks with, with, with, with Richard's wife. 706 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,160 And it's black and white and she's dying and Milhouse is just 707 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,600 trying to resuscitate her. But exactly the eyebrow wobble. 708 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,440 Yeah, yeah. My God. 709 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:42,840 No. See the line Bart and Daddy's 710 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,960 tussling with the What are bad for the What are bads like 711 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,960 fucking you know who the what are bad is? 712 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,800 Oh, it's the, it's the I know who it is. 713 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,880 It's the, oh, it's the veteran guy who teaches them. 714 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,360 How to be assaulted. It's that guy. 715 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,840 It's that guy who won the first or second season. 716 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,720 Like the key to Springfield is Evergreen Terrace. 717 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,800 The Romans do it and now you know it. 718 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,960 That's it. Or it's or it's the fat German 719 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,600 kid, that little lad in the fucking lid. 720 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,040 And he's just like. Don't chase me, I'm full of 721 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,880 chocolate. God grave. 722 00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:18,080 I did not see this going here. This is brilliant. 723 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,080 In German. That fat kid has a Swiss accent, 724 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,480 by the way. That's amazing. 725 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,360 That's so good. That's so they. 726 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,000 Can follow. Shoki Brilliant. 727 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,760 We truly are an excellent multinational team with 728 00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:37,040 interesting perspectives. Look at us all adding value. 729 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,440 Wow. I too have added one value to 730 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,840 the pod. You said that one time. 731 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:46,960 Can I get my chicken nuggies now? 732 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,400 I've been a good boy for five. No attendees for you, Not enough 733 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,480 good boy fights. Everything's coming at Milhouse 734 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,719 in the sense that Richard Kimball survives that incredible 735 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,520 fall, but no man should people survive. 736 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,040 It looks really good still, by the way. 737 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,280 I mean you tell someone's looked a dummy off the side, but it 738 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,920 doesn't look like offensively bad. 739 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,440 Actually, they're after Richard Kimball because he possesses 740 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,120 superhuman feat such as being able to swim in aerated water. 741 00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:16,360 Yeah, and not find yourself like, pummelling to death by 742 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,040 being in the plunge pool at the bottom of a dam. 743 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,960 But I mean, they've they've really got to kind of sell this 744 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,000 scene and make it look good because obviously any kind of 745 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,600 scene like this, when you jump and down waterfall or off this 746 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,400 structure like this, you're up against that scene in the 747 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,160 mission from about six years beforehand when the guy goes 748 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,880 over the waterfall tide with big fuck off crucifix. 749 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,640 And it's like you're up against that as far as the spectacle 750 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,120 goes. Good pull. 751 00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:45,960 I like this. So he gets out. 752 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,120 Gerard is not fazed at all from this. 753 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,680 He's like, I want a body can find me a body. 754 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,480 I want divers down there. I want a pedicopter searching 755 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,480 here. He does not let up the pace at 756 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:58,640 all. There's not even a second where 757 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,920 he goes Watson fucking dead and Joy pants is like, can we go 758 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,720 home now? He's like, tell you, we can go 759 00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:07,920 fucking home, Joy. Fucking fucking classic joy 760 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,960 cosmic. Lengthy I. 761 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,040 Like I like the. Precision and the realism with 762 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,600 which it is written and how he goes into fine details like tell 763 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,880 the pilots to watch out for the wires, that kind of thing. 764 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,760 He he doesn't. Just kind. 765 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,680 Of like he throws out one liners which are really funny and stuff 766 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,160 like that. We'll thank go go get a get a 767 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,960 straight pull and find the fish for him. 768 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,520 But he isn't just all one liners and waka waka and like kind of 769 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,680 badass lines. He's like you can tell he's an 770 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,000 intelligent guy who knows exactly how we do this kind of 771 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,320 shit and things like that. The little kind of procedural 772 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,560 things like make sure the how come the pals don't hit the wire 773 00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:46,440 just really appeals to me on a probably autistic level. 774 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,760 I love it as well and I think. I think. 775 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,040 It's part of the charm of this film and and part of what makes 776 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,320 the dual protagonist angle really work is that both Kimball 777 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,000 and Gerard are both shown to be extremely composent people. 778 00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,800 Yeah, Kimball. Kimball, obviously. 779 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,160 With his trade craft, Kimball. With his medicine as well, it 780 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,720 seems like kids life we'll talk about in a bit and him like 781 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,200 basically doing his own investigative work to undercover 782 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,880 what's going on with probasic and essentially established the 783 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:14,000 motive for his wife murder and and by so doing it and cover the 784 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,040 culprit as well. Incredible. 785 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,280 And so he's doing all that Gerard, as you say, is a very 786 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,560 good, capable leader and leadership is very appealing 787 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,560 when you see it done well on screen, but also very skilled in 788 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,560 his actual like SME elements of his, of his of his job, you 789 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,680 know, as well. So it's subject matter expert 790 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,840 sort of stuff. He's extremely squat in what 791 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,880 he's doing and it shows. And I think that that sells it 792 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,240 because we've got like two people who are both really 793 00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:40,720 competent, both really likeable as well. 794 00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:42,600 Incredibly so. Yeah. 795 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:43,600 I. Think I think. 796 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,480 I think Ford. Has the harder. 797 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,320 Job to be likeable as Kimball because he has less opportunity 798 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,960 to be likeable whereas yeah Gerard has the the gift of being 799 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,720 able to bounce off his team all the time yeah and even when he's 800 00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:56,880 like giving a bit of a gentle. Ribbon. 801 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,080 And fucking with him a little bit. 802 00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,640 Yeah. It still comes across as really 803 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:00,640 likeable. Yeah. 804 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,360 Like what you're thinking, think of, think of think of one of 805 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,480 those Donuts. Chuck the dose with the 806 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,080 sprinkles. What you're thinking, like all 807 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:06,920 that stuff. Don't let. 808 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:07,720 Don't. What's it? 809 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,640 Don't. Let them give you shit about 810 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,240 your ponytail. Yes, I love that. 811 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,480 Yeah. Good boy, Well done. 812 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,040 Don't let. Them give you shit about your 813 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,720 ponytail. Yeah, so there's right so. 814 00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:20,720 The next bit. That we should cover is there's 815 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,840 there's two threads now. One is Kimball hitchhiking back 816 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,400 to Chicago. Incredibly unlikely. 817 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,120 One of the one of the major stretches of the film couldn't 818 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,480 happen today. There's no way any woman alone 819 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,680 in a car is letting a man into it. 820 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:33,960 Just don't see that happening these days. 821 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,440 No, no, absolutely fucking not. Yeah, I mean, you know. 822 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,160 Pretty there's fucking good. Reasons as well, Let's be 823 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,960 straight. Here, I mean, yeah, yeah, 824 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,160 exactly. Women are choosing the band. 825 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,200 It's not by accident, I think. Wow, that's a reference. 826 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,720 To some of. Extremely online discourse. 827 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,960 OK, OK. Half of this shows. 828 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,040 References to extremely online discourse, though I was going to 829 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,360 say extremely. Online references on this 830 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:04,080 podcast, not before. It's not like the last 50 831 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,920 minutes have been mostly that. Does you know that we're at war, 832 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,200 by the way? This is, yeah. 833 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,760 Holy Foley guys, Right, That's all I'm allowed to talk. 834 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,200 About it, that's all I'm. Allowed to say right, but where 835 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,040 it's happening? Operation Bacon? 836 00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:20,440 Who the fuck? Named that it's so. 837 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,640 Bad, right? We know it. 838 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,720 We know. It was. 839 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,680 It's so fucking stupid. It's. 840 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,720 Like it's like. You know that like everybody is 841 00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:29,400 12 theory. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 842 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,440 How? How everyone? 843 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,440 On the Internet and. Politics is a 12 year old and 844 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,600 it's saying of course it's called epic. 845 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,080 Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. Oh boy, Operation Jean-Claude 846 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,640 Van Damme spinning kickers go. Oh boy, Mom said. 847 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,920 It's my turn. On the operation naming 848 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,920 generator, it's terrible. It's terrible. 849 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,720 And what a large operation. No bad times. 850 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,800 Yeah, man, So what? Was the latest one HF made an 851 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:59,000 address to the country today, I guess as a prelude to a further 852 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,920 address by Trump which I haven't seen yet because we're doing 853 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,320 this today is the 2nd of March 2026. 854 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:10,120 So we're like 48 hours into like the nonsense he made one of. 855 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,280 The comments he made was. Addressing US service personnel 856 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:19,240 like we have President Trump and I, we've got your backs and that 857 00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:22,840 and we got your backs from the kind of like gesticulates to the 858 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,680 audience. He was like from the from the 859 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:30,040 media, like dismissively and from people criticising you and 860 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,640 all this kind of stuff. And it's like, what does that 861 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,120 actually mean? Right? 862 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,680 Because you haven't actually got their backs because you've sent 863 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,680 them to do an illegal war. Everything they're doing more 864 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,080 than one, I think verifiable war crime has taken place already. 865 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,960 When you say you've got their backs, like how far does that 866 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,720 extend? Are you going to, are you going 867 00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:50,480 to fucking stop killing the fucking VA nurses then that you 868 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,480 that you killed in fucking Minnesota a couple of weeks ago? 869 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,000 Like, sorry man. The podcast, but. 870 00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:01,120 Fuck me man and. Again, all of the. 871 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,760 Shit that he. Comes out with all of his stupid 872 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,640 fucking quotes. My my rule of thumb on the whole 873 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,480 everyone is 12 unified theory of everything being shit now is 874 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,880 that if someone makes a plagal statement that you can respond 875 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,840 to with OK buddy high 5. Good for you little guy. 876 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,440 They are indeed a fucking 12 year old and that's the shit he 877 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:19,920 comes out with. Trump as well. 878 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,400 What I say the the, the Iranian Navy's floating at the bottom of 879 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,680 the sea, little buddy. High five. 880 00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:30,280 Yeah, yeah, man. Yeah, we hit some of this right. 881 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,160 He said some of the most insane stuff to me. 882 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,120 You did the you did the you did the law of Farquaad speech from 883 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,120 Shrek. Did you catch? 884 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,600 What the fuck? Some of you made time sacrifice. 885 00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:43,600 I'm willing to make like what the and then and then when you 886 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,480 know God rest her souls. Several members of the US arms 887 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,080 services have sadly passed away as a part of as a direct result 888 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,040 of his actions. Yeah, he then was like, people 889 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,560 die in war. That's just what happens. 890 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,600 There's going to be more. What the fuck you, man? 891 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,240 You start it, Yeah. Like what the fuck? 892 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,840 It's like he's. Literally come out and just 893 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,480 said. It is what it is basically 894 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,920 right. And it's like, I'll fucking say 895 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,280 it is what it is. If I don't bring the milk in and 896 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,240 it goes bad, you know, if, if I leave the milk out when the 897 00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:12,280 Milky man delivers it, it is what it is. 898 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,440 You know, if I if I lose a fiver at the pub, it is what it 899 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,480 fucking is, man. But it's like people die in war. 900 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,160 Yeah, fucking just you. And then? 901 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,800 Vance had the temerity. To say that, well, the 902 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,040 difference, what makes this war that were involved in the Middle 903 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,720 East different from the other ones, is that all the other 904 00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:28,920 presidents, all of them were morons. 905 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,120 I'm like, mate, you are throwing a lot of masonry for someone 906 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,200 living in a glass house right now. 907 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,040 Jesus fucking Christ. Yeah. 908 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:37,880 Wow, yeah. Blew my mind. 909 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,960 Anyway, back to the movie. Back to the movie, right? 910 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,120 Yeah, sort of. Kimball. 911 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,000 Kimball's hitchhiked in Chicago what is also happening at the 912 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,120 same time? And this initially confused me 913 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,760 for a split second because I was looking away in second 914 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:54,040 screening, which is really bad, is there's a witness that is 915 00:42:54,040 --> 00:43:00,760 seen Copeland get into a car and he is now staying at the home of 916 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,560 a lover, I guess. Yeah, because the way the film. 917 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,920 Tells it to you is they're saying we've got our guy, he's 918 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,440 shacked up with a lady in Chicago and you kind of think or 919 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,040 our thoughts from moment up. Shit, The So Kimble's a Slayer. 920 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,320 What? Yeah, the kick. 921 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,600 Kimble's a Slayer. Kimble's a Chad already. 922 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,680 Wow. We are mugged by his widow, our 923 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,160 maxing. But anyway, like with the film, 924 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,400 the film does kind of throw your dummy for a bit by making you 925 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,600 think that he's got into the car with this woman, he's gone to 926 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,280 her house. Then we'll see the scene of the 927 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,600 US Marshals approach from the house and think they're going to 928 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,160 be going after Kimble in there. I enjoyed this. 929 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:37,920 Yeah. Yeah. 930 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:38,800 It's good. I like that. 931 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,080 It's a really good little twist and turn that makes it very 932 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,480 entertaining. I like a good fake out when it's 933 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,640 done well. And which is this is so this is 934 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,360 part of the when I was saying that the the US Marshals, I 935 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,880 could do with them turning them down by like a tiny fraction. 936 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,080 This is like the this is like probably the main one. 937 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,880 And it's to do with the costuming that they do to blend 938 00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,160 in in the neighbourhood where like, Tony Jones is dressed as, 939 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,000 what did you say, Sonia, a Russian tank commander. 940 00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:06,080 A Russian tank commander. It's not hot, isn't it? 941 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,040 He does, though. Doesn't he tell me I'm. 942 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,560 Wrong. No, you're right. 943 00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:11,040 Am I? Wrong AM. 944 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:16,320 I wrong, am I wrong? And he's like telling us like 945 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,680 buddy, oh, act drunk, act drunk. It's like, but I mean, all of 946 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,120 this pales in comparison the US Marshals when you're first 947 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,800 introduced to 1. When he's wearing a fucking 948 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,000 chicken suit. This is what I told Cyan because 949 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,120 he hasn't seen it. Yeah. 950 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,640 Oh, brilliant. Glad you mentioned it. 951 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:29,720 Oh yeah. Ridiculous. 952 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,400 That's why. Because they turn up an extra 953 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,640 dial because they have to carry the whole movie, really. 954 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,880 Because like, Rosie's life isn't really doing anything. 955 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,440 He's not as engaging as as Harrison Ford, sadly, because 956 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,160 he's not as much to do. It's a real shame. 957 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,360 Anyway, this takes a a very sharp and negative turn when 958 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,480 they when they get into the house and start doing a bit of 959 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,600 CQB, kinda. Yeah. 960 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,560 I'll let you talk about that in the weapons three section, I 961 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,320 think. Yeah, I fucking love it 962 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,120 actually. But and but. 963 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:55,560 Immediately. Goes horrible. 964 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,360 So the atmosphere in the house is pretty horrible. 965 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:02,320 It's pretty pretty rundown dwelling and Copeland like goes 966 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,960 high and right straight away gets that gets the one guy with 967 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,880 the ponytail and a headlock and and holds a gun to his head and 968 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,640 he starts like screaming his head off like I've got you guy 969 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,440 got you guy. It's like big he's got in the 970 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,880 head and the headlock holding a gun point. 971 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,720 We got another character defining moment from Gerard 972 00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:22,960 though. So Gerard, upon seeing this, it 973 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,360 takes a really risky shot at close quarters, shoots and kills 974 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,560 Copeland before he can shoot Biggs outside the house. 975 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,680 Biggs catches up with Gerard. Obviously, he's a bit more 976 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,320 critical because he's like, you could have killed me, man. 977 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,600 You know, I could have not killed. 978 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,800 And his ears ringing from, like, the gunfire by his head and all 979 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,760 that kind of stuff. And then he leans in close to 980 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,720 his ear. Yeah, it's 100. 981 00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:49,840 Percent not service. Related Are you a veteran of the 982 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,000 armed forces? Since 19. 67 mop have you have 983 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:53,800 been? Hearing loss. 984 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,240 Mop, I get those adverts. On Instagram. 985 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,880 All the time. Yeah, Facebook. 986 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,440 And I'm not even a fucking. Veteran I'm not even fucking 987 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,240 part just for complex a part of this part and I got them on 988 00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:05,360 Facebook. You're you're the airsoft. 989 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,080 Walls aren't you? I'm a veteran. 990 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,960 Of 1000 sacred Wars in the words of Blue Öyster Cult yeah, I'm a 991 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,360 veteran of. Living through and President 992 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,200 historical events President historical yeah fucking and. 993 00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:21,200 And, and also the Janzads are involved in this board as well 994 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,440 too. They are indeed. 995 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:23,560 Yeah. You were alive when? 996 00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:25,520 Princess Diana died. Just probably. 997 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,480 When's your birthday? That's why that's when it 998 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,440 started for me. Busty day. 999 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,000 Oh, so you're a month old when she. 1000 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,280 Dies Tommy Lee Jones leans in. Close to the pictures ear and 1001 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,640 he's like can. You hear what I'm saying? 1002 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:38,960 He's like, yeah, I can hear what I'm saying. 1003 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,120 He goes, I don't bargain. And that's a cool. 1004 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,920 That's another cool sort of full stop. 1005 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,080 On, on, off the back of his eye. I don't care. 1006 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,880 So he's like, he's incredibly driven and he doesn't mess 1007 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,320 around, right. So Kimball now is in Chicago at 1008 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,680 large and he's Wheeling and dealing. 1009 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,640 He's trying to figure out what's what's going on. 1010 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,280 He bumps into his old friend Doctor Charles Nichols in an 1011 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,160 underpass, gets a couple of bucks from him. 1012 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,120 It establishes that that Charles, who we saw like at the 1013 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,720 very beginning in the gala, Charles and he are friends and 1014 00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:11,640 they're still friend leaders. But like he's a wanted man. 1015 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:17,720 Kimball start his his kind of mission so posing as a janitor. 1016 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,160 Kimball. Infiltrates Cook County Hospital 1017 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,200 and he does this by initially going in the hospital, stealing 1018 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:28,600 a janitor's ID, going away again and doing some like offline. 1019 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,600 He's like doing some like forging. 1020 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,640 He's like getting some Janet uniform. 1021 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,440 He gets digs as well, doesn't he Like gets? 1022 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,880 Himself in that, that pool basement. 1023 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:39,800 That's right. She's living with her. 1024 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,360 Fail son. Her absolute fail son. 1025 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,920 He was. Pivotal to the plot later on? 1026 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,680 Yeah, absolutely. What an. 1027 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,960 Absolute should by. The way if anyone in this film, 1028 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,080 if any character in this film would ever go on to what are the 1029 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,960 phrase, fuck my should life, it's him. 1030 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,760 Can you imagine? Because he'd be what? 1031 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,720 To run some quick mats here he'd. 1032 00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:03,080 Be probably. In his like, I mean, he's what 1033 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,120 he's like in his like probably late 20s. 1034 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,520 He's at that point. He'll be in his like 40s late 1035 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,120 40s when Reddit first comes on the scene by now. 1036 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,120 By like today's fucking hot minute he'll be in his 50s. 1037 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,880 Posted as busted ass meals on kitchen cells going like 53 year 1038 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,120 old kissless hugless hand holders. 1039 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:26,560 Virgin spoke to a girl today. She vomited pecan pie. 1040 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,520 I'm going to rope Max roll ramen. 1041 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,280 Raw ramen Pretty. Old burger. 1042 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,640 I want to die. Yeah, man, he sucks so. 1043 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,240 Yeah, Kimball. Kimball gets those digs and it's 1044 00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:41,680 nicely like intercut with the Marshalls interviewing Kimball's 1045 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,800 like associates because he's like, we want the heat to die 1046 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,040 down. We don't want media coverage. 1047 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:49,360 We want Kimball to try and re enter his life, yeah, but in the 1048 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:50,520 background. They're interviewing like. 1049 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,680 His colleagues so we get some great like they're not cameos 1050 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,800 because they weren't famous yet. But we get lots of very short 1051 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,640 bit parts by people who would be famous later, which we'll talk 1052 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,160 about in casting. But like one of those is like 1053 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,160 Jane Lynch, we get like the chief of police from psych 1054 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,480 people like that get get queried. 1055 00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:09,680 And one of them is obviously this, this Charles Nichols 1056 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,200 played by Duran Crabb. And he's very, very charming. 1057 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,320 And he's like, oh, I bumped into Kimball outside my Tennis Club. 1058 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,880 Seems to be like really affable. But he also seems to be like 1059 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,680 firmly in Kimball's corner, which is a misdirect. 1060 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,360 I think it's the film plays really well. 1061 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,920 And we also highlight it's like, look, you're going to Kimball's 1062 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,000 really smart. And I think it's like, it's 1063 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,400 Gerard and I think like Joey Pants. 1064 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,760 And they're like, we're smart. We're smart guys, smarter than 1065 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,000 us. He's like, yes, smart. 1066 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,440 The news, he's like smarter than smarter than you. 1067 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,600 He's like and he's like, yes, smarter even. 1068 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,640 Smarter than me? Yeah, and we get that intercut 1069 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,400 with like him doing the doing the making the fake ID and 1070 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,480 posing for like a passport for so him and dying his hair dark 1071 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,960 and stuff as well. So he's doing all that to like 1072 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,080 change his appearance. Then he goes to the hospital as 1073 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,840 a as a fake janitor. There's some kind of, I mean, 1074 00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,920 it's classic indictment of the of the American healthcare 1075 00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:02,280 system. The hospitals like overflowing. 1076 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,600 Everyone's super busy. Doctor Julianne Moore is there. 1077 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,920 She spots Kimball as the janitor and says, I need you to move 1078 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,440 this kid down to whatever department it is that the sick 1079 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,400 kid needs to go to. And he's like me, I'm only here 1080 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,520 to do some research. Fine, I will. 1081 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,720 So he goes and helps the kid goes to the goes into the 1082 00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:23,400 elevator, looks at the kids chest X-ray when she clocked. 1083 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,360 Yeah, you diagnose this is something like? 1084 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,880 Pretty much wrong by like the way the kids like breathing and 1085 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,880 the pain is in the chest. And of course the doctors sort 1086 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,440 of misdiagnosed him. I think I forgot what it is that 1087 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,680 like the doctor. Yeah, looking. 1088 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:40,360 At it's very much a kind. Of really perfunctory, almost 1089 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,080 battlefield triage at this point, doesn't it? 1090 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,800 Like, doesn't examine the kid much. 1091 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,800 He looks at the the chest. X-ray asks a few. 1092 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,200 Questions, writes up some stuff, writes some stuff in his chart 1093 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,320 and uses his doctor signature, which is just a WAVY line. 1094 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,560 Takes it now to a, a surgical theatre and then kind of like as 1095 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,000 a janitor just goes like, I've got this got his patient for 1096 00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,280 you. And like hands the chart over 1097 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,560 and then she looks at it. She pieces together what the 1098 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,280 correct course of action is from the notes that the subtle notes 1099 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,160 he's added to the charts. Again, another good character 1100 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,520 movement from from Kimball, because we see that he's got, 1101 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,560 you know, heart of gold. He's at the risk of being made. 1102 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,040 He's went out of his way to do something good to save this 1103 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,920 child's life. And then after that he he starts 1104 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,800 doing his investigation. So he goes to the place. 1105 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,280 I don't know, actually after or before this. 1106 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:22,800 Now I think about it, it could be the way around. 1107 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,800 But he goes to the prosthetics department, has a cool name, 1108 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,640 someone lets him in, he pretends to clean like the shutters so he 1109 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,040 can look himself, lock himself and be unseen in office. 1110 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,960 Like get up at an oldie schooly computer with a black screen and 1111 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,200 green text like a fallout fucking terminal and and brings 1112 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,920 up the database and prints off a bunch of names and smuggles of 1113 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,480 the way for for further examination later. 1114 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,440 But he is made again as he attempts to exit the hospital by 1115 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,440 Doctor Julianne Moore. And as as she as he starts to 1116 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,120 feel the heat around the corner he he bugs out and just leaves 1117 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,840 and she like tries to call security but it's too late. 1118 00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,560 One one of my favourite bits about this. 1119 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,440 Is like she, she, she grabs his ID card and then she's like, you 1120 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:08,000 wait here and is it no, literally going to run away? 1121 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,760 It's like. That that in itself is a bit of 1122 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,040 like an indictment on like orderly stuff and John as might 1123 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,200 sometimes get treated at hospitals maybe because it's a 1124 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,440 bit like chasing you wait there like there's like this is utter 1125 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:24,440 self belief that this peon this servant will do exactly what she 1126 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,440 says because she's just because she's clinical stuff. 1127 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,000 It's probably. Not meant to be written like 1128 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,360 that. But it does feel a little bit 1129 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,920 like there's almost this kind of feeling of like you stay there 1130 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:39,080 servant kind of thing and and he fucking bolts and he's out with 1131 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:40,880 that. We get a whole sequence of him 1132 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,640 doing. Investigations, so he's he's 1133 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,840 calling up all the numbers that he's got from the database. 1134 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,920 It does that gaol visit for that guy. 1135 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,680 That he finds, Yeah, just for the term. 1136 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,600 That's not him. And the guy wants to slap a 1137 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,600 conversation again. Man, they gotta be out myself 1138 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,200 enough. And he's like, no, I've got to 1139 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,680 go. It's like you. 1140 00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:59,640 You would have least. Talked about a smack. 1141 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,240 Wouldn't it's like, how about that local sports team? 1142 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:04,960 Cubs. Chicago. 1143 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,160 Maps Baby. Chicago. 1144 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:08,640 Yeah. Yeah. 1145 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,640 So there's 20, there's two bits. We haven't talked about one of 1146 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,440 them I'll save for You've got to do it though oversell of the 1147 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,720 military industrial complex. We'll talk about it in a bit. 1148 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,480 But now you've taken this nicely up to the sequence where Gerard 1149 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,240 and that are also there because they have also really done the 1150 00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:25,440 same list of suspects. And so they want to talk to this 1151 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,800 guy and find out what the crack is and they just happen. 1152 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:29,720 I think that's all the point in the. 1153 00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:33,840 Film when Gerard starts to kind of off his own bat, investigate 1154 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,080 things himself, and it becomes less of a manhunt or more of 1155 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,680 like a kind of oversight. Of what's going on? 1156 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,640 As he starts to realise that maybe the investigation has been 1157 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,240 a bit hinky, botched, So what really propelled? 1158 00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:48,400 Us, and I think this has sold pretty well at the start of the 1159 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,200 film as well, is that every bit of law enforcement that Saint 1160 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,840 George Girard has interacted with in the state of Illinois 1161 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,840 has not impressed him. Everyone's fucked him off in 1162 00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,960 some way. Like like the state troopers 1163 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,880 were full of shit. The local sheriff's heart would 1164 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,280 have been full of shit. Now he goes to Chicago itself, 1165 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,600 which is where they're bought officers based out of because he 1166 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,520 says he's come, he's come back home and all that kind of stuff. 1167 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:13,760 But yeah, he's met the Chicago PD and got a got a bit of a word 1168 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,040 from the investigation officer from from the case. 1169 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:17,960 Yeah. Who? 1170 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,720 By the way, dies just like. Last week in real life. 1171 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,480 Oh shit. Ron. 1172 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:23,600 Ron. Dean, who played detective. 1173 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,800 Kelly. Yeah, so, so, yeah, rest in 1174 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,680 peace him anyway. Yeah. 1175 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,440 So he he meets with those guys and and kind of like gets a 1176 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,920 flavour for what the investigation was like and 1177 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,720 realises that actually this was bullshit. 1178 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,440 He gets his own guys to reinterview every witness in 1179 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,640 that initial case, which is a weird misallocation of their 1180 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,840 resources, but it's good. Yeah. 1181 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,720 So you're absolutely right. So now they're doing their own 1182 00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:45,960 investigation, going like, maybe Kimball's not full of shit what 1183 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,520 actually did happen because. And he can justify this because 1184 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,480 the more he knows what what really happened and what's going 1185 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,560 on in his real life, he thinks, well, now I can find out where 1186 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,240 he's going to go next and who's going to talk to. 1187 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,520 So there's a there's a like a plot functional reason for him 1188 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,880 to do so, which is cool. We're feeling at this point in 1189 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,600 the filming of the movie that when Harrison Ford's got on the 1190 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,960 project, he had quite a significant say on some amends 1191 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,880 to the screenplay. And he made some. 1192 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,000 He made some talks about how they wanted to change not the 1193 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,960 shooting schedule so much, but like, had some ideas about how 1194 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,280 do we shoot the movie. And it was Harrison Ford who 1195 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,280 lobbied really hard to shoot it on location in Chicago for the 1196 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,120 Chicago sequences, all the rural stuff that's taken place, like 1197 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:28,240 North Carolina and bits and bobs. 1198 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,680 But he was like, right when we're in Chicago, we are in 1199 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,200 Chicago. And Andrew Davis, who directed 1200 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,960 the movie, is from Chicago. Yeah, so it was his. 1201 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,520 Idea to. Take advantage of the Saint 1202 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,160 Patrick's Day parade. None of this is in the 1203 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,240 screenplay. And it was like, right, Saint 1204 00:55:43,240 --> 00:55:45,240 Patrick's Day's Perez in town. We're in Chicago, we're 1205 00:55:45,240 --> 00:55:47,080 shooting, we're going to we're going to get involved. 1206 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,600 And they didn't like, didn't plan this too far ahead of time. 1207 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,600 They kind of just rocked up on the day and a bit of gruel 1208 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,800 filming, just did their bits. It wasn't in the screenplay. 1209 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,720 So it was like, so it was like, you're going to go up to the 1210 00:55:56,720 --> 00:55:57,680 crowd, they're going to look for you. 1211 00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,440 You're going to run away, they're going to chase you, all 1212 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:00,840 that kind of stuff. You're going to put one of these 1213 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,920 hats on and kind of March along with the guys, Like just just. 1214 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,680 Yeah, Grey Man activities. I love them. 1215 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,760 Man, just yeah, cool. So we have, right? 1216 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,400 Let's let's do this bit secrets properly. 1217 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:15,000 So so they're in City Hall. There's a flight of stairs. 1218 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,400 I love this. Gerard spots him on the on the 1219 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,280 on the stairwell and to try and he's not sure who he is. 1220 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,880 She just goes Richard and then Richard looks up at him and 1221 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,320 that's when he's like Butkins looks at the guy and that's when 1222 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,160 the foot chase starts. I think that's brilliant. 1223 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,320 He gets out the building through the door. 1224 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,800 One of the guys is up on the roof and it's like he's going 1225 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:38,000 across the he's going. Across the Plaza. 1226 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,480 He's running towards the. Parade, and they've run. 1227 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,160 Out. Yeah, man, it's so good. 1228 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,480 Yeah, yeah. So that's a sequence to be, to 1229 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,720 be really like Newcastle. Mentioned something I love about 1230 00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:49,320 Chicago and some of the shots in the city is work with me. 1231 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,400 Yeah, it looks a bit like if Granger Town had skyscrapers in 1232 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,480 it, doesn't it? Some parts of Chicago look like 1233 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,040 if Newcastle's Granger Town aerials but big fuck off 1234 00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,640 skyscrapers in it and I like that. 1235 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,680 It's a great city. It's a it's a great location. 1236 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,560 And this is probably I've seen online some mentions has been 1237 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,520 like a great Chicago movie and it it is like. 1238 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,560 So think of other Chicago movies that we've watched. 1239 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,640 So we did The Untouchables. Yeah, but the. 1240 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,040 Untouchables didn't really show us too. 1241 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,000 Much Chicago. It had like that one street they 1242 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,000 made like a 1930 St that they shot all their St scenes in 1243 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,400 pretty much and the docks. But we didn't see the city 1244 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:22,640 itself. So we don't get like the iconic 1245 00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,760 river and the bridges across the river and the stuff. 1246 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,240 We didn't see the bridges and the stuff here. 1247 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,800 Right now, yeah, exactly. So that I didn't do it as well. 1248 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,200 I. Don't think other great Chicago 1249 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:31,960 movies, man. I'm not, I'm not so good at 1250 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,400 this, but the only one I can think of the top of my head was 1251 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,560 Sandra Bullock in While You Were Sleeping because she works. 1252 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,560 She works for the L train. Later, Kimball breaks into the 1253 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,120 home of another suspect off his list, Frederick Sykes. 1254 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:50,680 Frederick Sykes is played by. Andreas Capsulus. 1255 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,600 Yeah, he's, he's definitely. One of those like guys. 1256 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,560 We'll talk about it when we get to the so, so that section, 1257 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,000 yeah. Man, I've got notes on this guy 1258 00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,960 as well. Yeah, big time. 1259 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,800 So. He breaks into his house, 1260 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,160 Kimball recognises Sykes as the wild man who's his wife's 1261 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,080 killer, and discovers evidence linking Sykes to his former 1262 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,840 colleague Dr Alec Lentz. And then this is a great piece 1263 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:17,080 of shit fucking fucking big pharma named Devlin McGregor, a 1264 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,680 multi billion dollar pharmaceutical company Devlin 1265 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,240 Maria. It's a great name for a piece of 1266 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,480 shit company developing a drug called Pravasic. 1267 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,560 Sorry, if you say Pravasic, you've got a point. 1268 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,480 Pravasic. Kimball had reviewed Pravasic 1269 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,480 and discovered that it causes liver damage, which should have 1270 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,120 prevented the drug being approved for sale. 1271 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:40,480 However, he he finds out that it that it basically has Yeah. 1272 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,960 So now that samples from one non. 1273 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,120 Diseased liver the same non diseased liver from one of the 1274 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,800 samples and that's determined isn't it like when he when he 1275 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,120 pulls pulls the samples from that from that cool old 1276 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:57,240 pathologist guy bones the column yes right he. 1277 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,440 Visits that guy and that guy. 'S like that whole business 1278 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,480 business with your wife. What happened in the end He's 1279 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,120 like, it's not over. I fucking love that guy like. 1280 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:09,200 You know, I yearn to be like that guy, so disconnected from 1281 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,040 the news that he's like, what happened to that whole thing 1282 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,360 with you being sentenced to death for murdering your wife? 1283 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,880 Man, Now you're walking around you've you've you've drastically 1284 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,880 changed your appearance and I'm just not even going to fucking 1285 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,320 bother to really kind of analyse this just hey man, it's all 1286 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:25,600 good. You know what, know how to watch 1287 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,360 the news papers? No, just going to watch my 1288 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:28,560 stories. I'm. 1289 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,720 Going to watch my stories, I'm going to watch the brave and 1290 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:31,960 the. Bold and that's it. 1291 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,160 So you get to the bottom of the. Liver. 1292 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:38,520 Sample stuff by speaking to his old pal Jane Lynch as well. 1293 00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,160 Yeah, which is great. Jane Lynch is a great. 1294 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:42,880 She's great. Like that guy actually 1295 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,720 characterised it. Yeah, I really like this. 1296 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,560 So they, they do so much subtle, I say subtle. 1297 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,880 They do some really good character establishing work with 1298 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,560 her, just like the costuming. I think it's really cool how to 1299 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,120 do that. Yeah, like the kind of she's got 1300 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:56,360 the badge like. I hate it. 1301 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:57,840 It's not. A family value badge? 1302 00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,960 Yeah. Yeah, and she's got like the the 1303 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,920 aids. Ribbon and stuff on as well. 1304 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,080 Yeah, yeah, she's got a lot of. Steel about the character, a lot 1305 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:06,560 of a lot of, you know, get in there. 1306 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,000 I like her. Yeah, she wasn't. 1307 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,760 Like she, she was pretty dismissive of the US Marshals 1308 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,120 earlier on as well by saying like, he's too, too smart, like 1309 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,240 confirm it's the wrong place kind of thing. 1310 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,760 And now, now she's like, oh, now aiding and abetting because 1311 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,040 she's yeah, she fucking rules. Yeah, she's not giving a shit. 1312 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,280 But now that we've made this breakthrough the case. 1313 01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:32,160 Your boy Kimball rings Gerard. From Sykes's home, the US. 1314 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,240 Marshals will be led to Sykes's address where they interview, 1315 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,040 and they immediately tell that something is called hinky. 1316 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,640 So that's pretty cool. And then, suspicious that he 1317 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,400 already finds Gerard, puts Sykes under surveillance, but he 1318 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,680 sneaks away. Kimball realises that the 1319 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,120 Probosic affected liver samples that he sent to Lentz were 1320 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:51,440 tampered with, which we talked about to hide the side effects. 1321 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,440 They were then approved in Lentz's name on the same day 1322 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,600 that he died under suspicious circumstances. 1323 01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:01,240 Therefore, Kimball deduces that Nichols was responsible. 1324 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:02,960 Then we get into the sort of the final axe here. 1325 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,880 So aboard a train to the medical conference in a hotel where 1326 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,800 Nichols will unveil Prevacic, Kimball is attacked by Sykes, 1327 01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,160 who shoots an intervening police officer, played by Neil Flynn, 1328 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,520 dead. Oh fuck, we were talking about 1329 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,360 scrubs. Yeah, fucking legends there from 1330 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:25,600 Scrubs and there's brilliant and Kimball subdues Sykes like you 1331 01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:29,360 know, knocks 60s weapon but the police assume Kimball killed the 1332 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:33,000 officer and order him shot on site because the Chicago PD in 1333 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:37,360 this film are fucking morons at the. 1334 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,920 Conference Kimball. Publicly conferenced Nichols for 1335 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:44,040 killing Lentz, concealing Provasix side effects for the 1336 01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,400 profit and directorship of Devon McGregor. 1337 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,160 Cool. Right before we carry on, the 1338 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:55,560 train sequence is cool. AFIII really like it. 1339 01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,280 It's a really good Chicago thing they've made. 1340 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,960 They've mentioned the elevated rail network already and now we 1341 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:03,280 get to go on it, so that's quite cool. 1342 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,080 How do you think it? Weighs up against. 1343 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,160 Collateral that we did recently, interesting because. 1344 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:18,200 Collaterals train sequence is like a battle between two 1345 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:24,760 individuals, while a third individual kind of heights and 1346 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:27,920 the. The battle, that kind. 1347 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:33,480 Of conflict on on this train is between kind of three 1348 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,000 individuals who are all kind of like at loggerheads with each 1349 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,960 other really on the like, it's just a kind of like triple kind 1350 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,760 of collision. And there's this tension where 1351 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,840 the cops like this, this tension just when the cops going to get 1352 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,520 involved kind of thing. And then just quick, brutal, 1353 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:54,360 nasty gunfight when Sykes is is incapacitated by Richard Kimble. 1354 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:58,080 I did say to Emma, I was like, as he starts handcuffing, he's 1355 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,880 like, I hope he doesn't try to handcuff him to his prostatic 1356 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,160 arm. But then of course, Richard 1357 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,000 Kimble is too intelligent for that. 1358 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,280 Andy handcuffs them to the rail and the train beer. 1359 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:13,760 It stands up Morris like a kind of essentially comes like a 1360 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,600 really quick and dirty 20 foot rule kind of gunfight, doesn't 1361 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,240 it? Whereas there's there's there's 1362 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,680 a lot more like kind of skill and precision and it's more 1363 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:27,360 about the gunplay in collateral. While in in this film it's just 1364 01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:31,160 guys shooting each fucking shooting at each other from the 1365 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:35,400 from the hip, almost just in in a blind panic of a close nasty 1366 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,000 gunfight. I think it doesn't have the 1367 01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,680 same. It isn't shot with the same like 1368 01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:45,200 Michael Mann regard for the art of gun slinging, if you see what 1369 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,000 I mean. Like it's like it's just a 1370 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:51,080 quick, brutal, nasty engagement. It's not meant to be the climax 1371 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,200 of the film like the scene in Collateral is. 1372 01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,120 Yeah, this has got it's got the funny. 1373 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:56,200 Little. Bit that leads him to it as 1374 01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,760 well, where he's sat on the train and there's a guy opposite 1375 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,400 to him reading the paper. And then and he can and he can 1376 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:02,760 see he's a picture on the back page. 1377 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,360 And instead of just getting up and walking away and he sits 1378 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,960 there and waits for the guy to like turn the paper around and 1379 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,360 look at it and then look at him and then look at the paper. 1380 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,240 And then the guy just fucking gets up. 1381 01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,080 And gets off. It's like I'll just get the next 1382 01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,680 train. It's so good. 1383 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,000 It's incredible scenes. I like that. 1384 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,760 I like the. I like the bit where Neil Flynn 1385 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,480 makes Kimball and turns. Of course he's going to go 1386 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,000 Kimball because that's that. You see that scene? 1387 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:30,720 Again in Scrubs, which is very fun. 1388 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,160 Which is really good, I like the fight. 1389 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,200 I like the weight of the fight. So there's some really good 1390 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,720 punching going on from from Kimball here. 1391 01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,880 And he uses like the, the, I think there's a bit where the 1392 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,960 train lurches and he kind of falls forward and throws a punch 1393 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,160 at the same time. And you can you feel it connects 1394 01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,200 and it's like, oh, that must have really hurt that one, which 1395 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:51,320 is cool. The only thing I didn't like 1396 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,280 about it, The only thing I didn't like about it is after 1397 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,840 he's handcuffed him to the reeling, he grabs him by the 1398 01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:00,120 hair and he goes like his head against the wall of the train. 1399 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:01,800 Yeah, he goes like this. I think this. 1400 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,080 Is like, this is my stop. Like this is what you get off. 1401 01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,160 So like that he says, like he says some kind of piffy one 1402 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:09,160 liner, like, this is my stop. And then he bangs his head. 1403 01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,440 And then the guy just like that really exaggerated, like, oh, 1404 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,880 I've knocked out. Yeah, a little. 1405 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:14,840 Head wobble. I've been knocked. 1406 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,840 Out a little. Head wobble on a slump and it's 1407 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,040 like I don't know if that that would just hurt him. 1408 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,640 I don't think it would knock me out. 1409 01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,720 And so, and I mean as. As a sabbatical. 1410 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,480 Professional he'd want like not. Fuck around with head injuries 1411 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,000 and stuff, right? I mean, yeah. 1412 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:31,560 I mean if. You're exactly guiding alive to. 1413 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,120 Testify and stuff. The ordeal he's gone through 1414 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:37,440 hasn't made him into a killer, but it's made him into a guy who 1415 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,840 was going to fucking bang a dude's head against the against 1416 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,480 the train's walls and not think too much of it, you know? 1417 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,440 Yeah, exactly. Cool. 1418 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,880 So that happens and then we get to the the, the conference. 1419 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,000 I was thinking the other day when I watched this that we, we 1420 01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,840 talked about this scene when we did the Smoking Aces episode 1421 01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,920 where it was like the most hilarious course of action was 1422 01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,680 that this, this conference was taking place at the same time as 1423 01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,360 the raid on the and he's just screaming about. 1424 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,880 Probasic and nobody cares because like this fucking neo 1425 01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:13,320 Nazis shooting people up and black power snipers laying down 1426 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,520 here from the roof and stuff like that yeah exactly it was 1427 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:17,280 like. Nobody cares. 1428 01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:22,200 Yeah, it's sort of good, Yeah. So, so yeah, he kind of, he kind 1429 01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,800 of like makes a big scene, walks into the everyone, everyone 1430 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,720 recognises him because it's obviously a good full of his 1431 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,080 peers and it's obviously hot news as well. 1432 01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:33,480 Just as Charles Nichols is giving his big speech to unveil 1433 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,160 probasic. And then he's like, that's how 1434 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,480 you did it, isn't it? You swap the samples. 1435 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,560 And he was like, Oh my God, swap the samples, my God. 1436 01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,600 And he's like, oh, my friend is feeling a little bit unwell and 1437 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,160 he kind of stepped off the stage and there's one bit where like 1438 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:47,920 he's tried to put his arm around. 1439 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,320 Yeah, Kimball. And Kimball shuts his arm off 1440 01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,480 and everyone's like, oh, damn. It's. 1441 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:54,640 Great. It's it's. 1442 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:58,120 It's such like a well mannered confrontation. 1443 01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,040 There's there's something very kind of old fashioned about it. 1444 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:03,840 It's it's. It's like the tone. 1445 01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:08,080 Of it all shifts to something that may not have even been from 1446 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:09,920 that century. You know what I mean It becomes 1447 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:16,840 very, very like measured and there's just this kind of calm 1448 01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:20,760 but imposing feel about it. I like how Nichols begins to 1449 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:24,080 crack and says dishonest instead of honest, by the way, I really 1450 01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,160 like that. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 1451 01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:28,600 But yeah, to get it just. Come it just. 1452 01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:33,760 Changes into this very, very kind of tense scene of 1453 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,040 weaponized good manners. Yeah, cable's like you changed 1454 01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:38,040 the samples. Didn't you, Huh. 1455 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,480 You switched the samples after Lens died. 1456 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,680 After Lens died, You're the only one who had the access. 1457 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,040 You switched the samples and the pathology reports. 1458 01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,080 And then he shoved his nickels and it was like, oh damn. 1459 01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:49,760 Damn. Did you kill Lens too? 1460 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:50,240 Huh. Did. 1461 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,480 You and then and then he turns out to the crowd he falsified 1462 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,960 his research so the RDU 90 could be approved and Devin McGregor. 1463 01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,000 Could give you. Prophasic, and then he touches 1464 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:00,000 back. And that's when they. 1465 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,120 Have like the big fights. So the pair fight through the 1466 01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,720 hotel, pursued by Gerard and you have this awesome. 1467 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,400 So they go to the roof like straight away and they're 1468 01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:11,480 outside of the roof air complex. The ROV has been given to the 1469 01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,000 cops like shoot on slight. You take him, you've got a clean 1470 01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,279 shot. You take you've got God, what's 1471 01:08:16,279 --> 01:08:17,840 his name again? You've got the pony hair, the 1472 01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:19,479 ponytail guy. Don't give don't give any shit 1473 01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,920 for his ponytail. He's he's like in the OPS room. 1474 01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,680 He's actually like in the security CCCV area. 1475 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,600 So he's keeping track of his movements throughout the hotel. 1476 01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:29,439 So you've got like all these comms going off. 1477 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,279 Everyone's talking on comms all the time whilst you have the 1478 01:08:32,279 --> 01:08:34,399 fight happening. I like it. 1479 01:08:34,399 --> 01:08:38,479 Really, really well handled. You know, again. 1480 01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:40,200 As I was saying earlier. On like it's a bit of a lost 1481 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:43,720 start the the the weaponized use of a helicopter in movies these 1482 01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,319 days. This is like lurking around the 1483 01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:48,160 building. You've got like the sniper 1484 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,680 inside, like taking pot shots. And then as soon as like Gerard 1485 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,359 gets on the roof, it's like, we've got major on the roof, 1486 01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:56,840 like hold your fire. And they fight their way through 1487 01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:00,040 like a they get to like AI guess like a skylight. 1488 01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,399 Yeah. And they they fight in the VIX 1489 01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:03,920 facility of it. Another really good, crunchy, 1490 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:05,880 punchy fight. Harrison Ford. 1491 01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,080 Has. Always seemed. 1492 01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:12,040 Like a guy who would just beat the fucking bricks off you in a 1493 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:15,680 face even, even even at his current age. 1494 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,520 Looks like he could throw a good couple of punches in the car 1495 01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,319 park of a flat roofed pub, you know. 1496 01:09:21,399 --> 01:09:23,920 Am I wrong? Am I wrong? 1497 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,520 I think he's a. Fantastic, fantastic puncher. 1498 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:30,200 Yeah, obviously, as I said, I watched, I watched Indiana Jones 1499 01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,399 recently. Rob Britt is a little stark and 1500 01:09:32,399 --> 01:09:34,240 he throws a good punch of punches in that. 1501 01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:38,240 He's throws a great, great slug of punches in this as well. 1502 01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:40,960 Yeah, he's a, he's a, he's handy. 1503 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,319 Like that's what I'd say. Does it compared to? 1504 01:09:44,399 --> 01:09:46,880 Compared to how throwing? Back the prior episodes compared 1505 01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,600 to how Clint Eastwood conducts himself in the bathroom fight 1506 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:56,160 scene in Firefox when when as as physical violence is just not. 1507 01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,480 That good like and. I don't know if some of that is 1508 01:09:59,480 --> 01:10:01,360 the direction. As well and it's filmed from 1509 01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,080 weird angles that. Fight scene as well, like 1510 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,040 there's that POV angle that's coming towards the guy and it's 1511 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,240 like, that ain't good. Weird. 1512 01:10:08,440 --> 01:10:09,600 Yeah, so. They fall. 1513 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,680 Through onto. Well, what happened? 1514 01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,960 Nichols falls into an elevator. What? 1515 01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,280 Meanwhile, Kimball lands on top of the elevator. 1516 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,440 Yeah. And then it comes, gets a bit 1517 01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:20,840 groggy. It comes to consciousness, gets 1518 01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:22,320 into the elevator and then follows Nichols. 1519 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,000 They've they've went down to the fifth floor, which is revealed 1520 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,640 to be the laundry. And we have a bit of a cat and 1521 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:31,520 mouse where we have Kimball pursuing nickel, but Gerard and 1522 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:35,560 Stewie pants pursuing Kimball. And that in order to furnish 1523 01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:39,280 himself with a weapon, Nichols knocks out an unsuspecting Joey 1524 01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,040 pants and and steals his gun. He does it with like a big long 1525 01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:43,520 clothing rail thing, something like that. 1526 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,360 Yeah. Like it looks like. 1527 01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:46,760 You're fucking fuck you. I think that's why the. 1528 01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:48,960 End They show the scene of him getting, like, put into the 1529 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:50,560 ambulance and talking shit to people. 1530 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,840 Yeah, because it's like, look, just, you know, Joey Pants 1531 01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:54,600 didn't die from that. That thing that would definitely 1532 01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:58,200 kill you. Gerard is calling out to Kimball 1533 01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,440 to tell him. Kimball. 1534 01:11:00,440 --> 01:11:01,760 There's no. There's no way out of here, 1535 01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:03,120 Richard. The entire building's locked 1536 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:04,480 down. Give it up, Richard. 1537 01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:06,560 You don't have any time. Chicago police thinks you're a 1538 01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,200 cop killer. They will shoot you on sight. 1539 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:10,240 Richard. I know you're innocence. 1540 01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:12,160 I know about Richard Frederick Sykes. 1541 01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:13,720 I know about Doctor Charles Nichols. 1542 01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,360 Richard, he borrowed your car that night. 1543 01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:16,960 The wife's murder. He had your keys. 1544 01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,400 No forced entry, Richard. He telephones psychs from your 1545 01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,200 car. Richard, Give it up, Richard. 1546 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:23,240 I'm either lying or I'm going to shoot you. 1547 01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,760 What do you think? It's time to stop running. 1548 01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,120 And as he's saying all that, Nichols is obviously just taking 1549 01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:29,840 out Joey Pants. Yeah, and he's. 1550 01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,600 And he's lining up a shot on Gerard now, thinking, fuck, this 1551 01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:33,960 guy's onto me. And he's killed him as well. 1552 01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:37,240 And then Kimball comes up from behind Nichols with, like, a 1553 01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,120 pipe or something. It just wheels on him. 1554 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,760 Wails on on his legs, knocks. Knocks him off his feet and then 1555 01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,600 hits him on the back. And Gerard turns around, sees 1556 01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,720 Kimball with the pipe, but sees, more importantly, Nichols with 1557 01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,760 the gun pointed directly at him. And then, and then your boy 1558 01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,720 Kimball finally, finally gives himself into the custody of 1559 01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:58,880 Samuel Gerard. And both our guys won. 1560 01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,720 Yes, he proved his. Innocence and. 1561 01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:02,920 Samuel. Gerard got his man. 1562 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,200 We get like a really, really quick wrap up. 1563 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:06,960 It's impressive how quickly they wrap it up. 1564 01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:15,400 So we get we get there's a press for all outside the hotel. 1565 01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,600 I guess it's just those people talk to you, I guess and they're 1566 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,920 asking questions like so if you're arrested A1 on man and 1567 01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,360 doctor Kimball said it was a one on man and responsible for 1568 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,200 killing his wife. Is it the same one on man you're 1569 01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:27,160 arresting for killing his mother? 1570 01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:28,720 The press just have the lives it's. 1571 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:30,600 Brilliant. That's so good. 1572 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:31,640 Like is. It true. 1573 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:35,080 You guys can't read. Is it like like, like, like just 1574 01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,600 absolutely having them. And then Pat, Pat on the roof of 1575 01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,600 the car. They drive away and then like 1576 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:40,840 there's nothing there's nothing else. 1577 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,320 There's no like yeah, there's no like seeing outside the 1578 01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:44,680 courthouse. You've been exonerated. 1579 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:45,720 Like what you're gonna do with your life. 1580 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,000 No, like settling in a small house by the river. 1581 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:51,400 That kind of thing. Just like ends like this movie 1582 01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:55,440 is like we did it. We've we've you saw people. 1583 01:12:55,440 --> 01:12:57,480 You know what's gonna happen next in Exonerated? 1584 01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:59,520 You know, yeah, there's no kind of like. 1585 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:01,960 Scene of anybody. Really. 1586 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:03,680 Else. Getting like the retribution, 1587 01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,680 like it's not really necessary at this point because you know 1588 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,360 that like the long armoured justice is going to the long 1589 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,440 prosthetic armoured justice is going to come for them. 1590 01:13:11,440 --> 01:13:14,640 Because the whole film you've been seeing how determined the 1591 01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,760 American justice system is. So you don't need like see 1592 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,080 another kind of trial or anything like that of the people 1593 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:21,880 who actually did it. And you don't need even say a 1594 01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:24,960 kind of epilogue what it says. And they all got executed 1595 01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:26,800 because, you know, bad shit's going to happen. 1596 01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:28,480 I mean, yeah. I mean, he's, he's getting the 1597 01:13:28,480 --> 01:13:31,040 fucking death sentence, right. Oh, yeah, absolutely. 1598 01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:31,600 Yeah. So. 1599 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:36,040 The The summary is quite pithily says while reporters query the 1600 01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:37,800 police over failings in the case. 1601 01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,880 Kimmel is escorted to Gerard's car, where he reminds me of his 1602 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:42,080 earlier claim that he did not care. 1603 01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,800 Gerard Wiley asks him to keep it a secret that he does care. 1604 01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:46,600 I like that. I like that. 1605 01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:47,520 Yeah, yeah. It's. 1606 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:48,960 Really nice. So yeah. 1607 01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,240 That wraps up our sort of recounting of the plot of the 1608 01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,880 movie. What's everyone's final opinions 1609 01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:57,440 of the movie, though, Rory? I'll start with Sue here, first 1610 01:13:57,440 --> 01:13:59,320 to the door. Again, that other I remembered. 1611 01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,440 I remembered it being good. I didn't remember it being 1612 01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:03,680 brilliant. And there was fucking excellent. 1613 01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:08,360 So good the way that it never really got like silly. 1614 01:14:08,480 --> 01:14:11,000 I had a few bits when I kind of overset the mark a bit, but 1615 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:12,440 there was often too wacky about it. 1616 01:14:12,480 --> 01:14:16,040 Even a film that's got a significant amount of banter in 1617 01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,720 it never lost its gravity. I think a lot of them 1618 01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:22,560 screenwriters looking right at you, Marvel kid, kid, kid can 1619 01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:27,560 really kind of learn a lot from just how how the banter in this 1620 01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,960 film, while it's engaging and explores the characters and 1621 01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:35,280 characteristics of the people involved in the story, it 1622 01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:36,560 doesn't. Like. 1623 01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,440 Overpower things. It doesn't rob anything of its 1624 01:14:39,440 --> 01:14:42,600 gravity. It's not like they fly now kind 1625 01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,320 of thing. Fucking he's he's right behind 1626 01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:46,680 me, isn't he? That kind of thing, you know, 1627 01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:50,000 like it's, it's it's stuff, it's quotable, but it's not like 1628 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:53,640 easily given the pastiche. There's a lot of. 1629 01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:54,280 Really. Yeah. 1630 01:14:54,440 --> 01:14:55,840 Absolutely. Yeah, there's a lot of really, 1631 01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,600 really cool stuff in here. First of all, I think my first 1632 01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,200 thought was take away from this film is that there are no 1633 01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:03,360 subplots in this film. There's no like. 1634 01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:04,960 You know. Background love story. 1635 01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,160 There's no like, you know, friends become lovers, lovers 1636 01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:11,000 become friends, none of that. It's just it's just all about 1637 01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,360 the plot and I think that is the right call to make. 1638 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:14,320 I don't think there's any any room. 1639 01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,440 There's no fats here. It's a it's a decent length of 1640 01:15:16,440 --> 01:15:17,960 movie, but there's no fats at all. 1641 01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:22,200 There's a bunch of really cool. You know how he talks about in 1642 01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,520 the last two episodes now, or should I say the last episode, 1643 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:29,520 in the next episode, I talked about the screen racing rule. 1644 01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:31,200 That should be like a bit of symmetry between the start of 1645 01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:32,280 the movie and the end of the movie. 1646 01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:34,480 They should be in the composition of each other. 1647 01:15:34,480 --> 01:15:35,440 There's quite a bit of that here. 1648 01:15:35,440 --> 01:15:39,480 So the movie opens with with Kimball being put into a police 1649 01:15:39,480 --> 01:15:41,520 car, and it ends with being put in a police car. 1650 01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:45,280 But the difference is the outlook he's now, he's now being 1651 01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,080 put into the the, the police car because justice is going to take 1652 01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,960 place rather than an injustice. The bad guy gives Kimball his 1653 01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,840 keys back at the, the, the gala and Gerard tells Kimball he 1654 01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:57,920 knows the bad guy borrowed his car the night of the murder. 1655 01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:01,080 So he had the keys in his house called Sykes from his phone. 1656 01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,960 So we have like that like really little minor detail, the very 1657 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:05,800 start of the film. It's paid off right at the end. 1658 01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:09,520 That's that's. Really cool God whilst. 1659 01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:11,920 We are. Oh. 1660 01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:13,400 Right. Yeah, so the very first. 1661 01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,800 Night where Kimball was having his uneasy sleep under a pile of 1662 01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:18,840 lean. He dreams of the of the police 1663 01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,240 interview that he had when he was in his initial interview. 1664 01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,800 And during that interview, he raises his voice and does like 1665 01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:25,960 an all time that Harrison Ford angry point. 1666 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,480 He goes find that man. Yeah. 1667 01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,000 But then he goes on himself to find that. 1668 01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:34,200 Man, which is really cool. I like that that that's really 1669 01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:35,160 good. Finally. 1670 01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:36,520 And this is probably maybe the best 1. 1671 01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:41,520 Gerard shoots Copeland and then tells is it big? 1672 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,280 So Newman, I can't remember the name of the guy and goes, I 1673 01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:46,320 don't bargain. Like that's his thing. 1674 01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,640 Yeah. And then that is paid off later 1675 01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,280 at City Hall, where he attempts to shoot Kimball, but it's 1676 01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,600 through the bulletproof glass. Yeah, at City Hall. 1677 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:55,720 So he's like, he's not fucking around. 1678 01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,040 He didn't, He didn't shoot him. He just, he just got stopped by 1679 01:16:58,040 --> 01:16:59,480 a bulletproof glass. So. 1680 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:03,840 So it's great. The movie is absolutely 1681 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,200 fantastic for a for a film that's two hours and 10 minutes 1682 01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,960 long. Like I said, there is no fat it 1683 01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:13,400 it doesn't doesn't mess around really, really impressive. 1684 01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:15,160 I'm glad that we've done this movie. 1685 01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:17,640 I'm I'm always going to feel like we haven't done it justice. 1686 01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:19,960 I think just because how much I think it's such a great movie 1687 01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:21,720 and that's probably going to be the case with all these right. 1688 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,080 But yeah, absolutely all timer for me. 1689 01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,440 Sonya, if you've got any thoughts as as someone who 1690 01:17:27,440 --> 01:17:29,520 already saw the film for the first time like a week ago, no 1691 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:30,920 thank you. I think you've. 1692 01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:36,040 Covered pretty much all avenues. I feel like it's. 1693 01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:43,360 It's just a relaxing. Watch for me like it's not over 1694 01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:48,240 the top as a lot of thrillers tend to be. 1695 01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:54,160 It's reasonably slow paced, but not so slow that it feels 1696 01:17:54,160 --> 01:18:02,640 boring. I just it has a good hello if 1697 01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:05,040 you want to call it that. Definitely. 1698 01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,120 I think I think that's a really good. 1699 01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,880 Point I think one of the things that really drew us, I thought 1700 01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,640 about you, Roy, but I think that really drew me to doing a 1701 01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,880 podcast about this genre of movies is because they are 1702 01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:21,200 deceptively good films. Like like you could you could 1703 01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:22,960 write this off as like genre entertainment. 1704 01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:24,400 But the fact that it actually got a lot of rewards, 1705 01:18:24,440 --> 01:18:26,880 recognition and a lot of critical acclaim is because it 1706 01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,600 does a lot of really simple, I say simple stuff. 1707 01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,560 But there's a lot of like, stun that may have been perfected for 1708 01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,560 like, the age of like, Hitchcock and that kind of stuff. 1709 01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,400 But it does it. It does it really, really well. 1710 01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:40,520 So yes. Yeah. 1711 01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:41,840 OK. It's not Schindler's List, 1712 01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:43,120 right. OK, I get it. 1713 01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,440 And it's not like a ground piece, heartbreaking piece of 1714 01:18:46,440 --> 01:18:49,280 art cinema. But what it is is a fantastic 1715 01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:54,760 piece of entertainment that takes all the boxes, you know, 1716 01:18:55,000 --> 01:19:00,200 And I go back to like, I'll go back to Harrison Ford, that 1717 01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:03,200 speech that he gave when he when he received his award, his 1718 01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,360 lifetime achievement award and the Actors Awards just just just 1719 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,960 last night, where he says sometimes we make entertainment, 1720 01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,600 sometimes we make art. Sometimes if we're lucky, we 1721 01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,120 make a book at the same time. And yeah, is this going to be 1722 01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:15,720 regarded as a great piece of art? 1723 01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,680 Maybe not. But it's a fucking great piece 1724 01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:21,320 of entertainment, definitely. Definitely, I think if. 1725 01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:25,160 We were doing a podcast about simply. 1726 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:27,520 Absolute cinema about. I'm, I'm, I mean, we could 1727 01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,960 easily, we could easily lean in doing stuff about just art house 1728 01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,400 films and just really highbrow dramas and stuff. 1729 01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:37,080 But I probably wouldn't be as fun as doing thrillers. 1730 01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,760 And I think there was so much complexity in depth to these 1731 01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:44,360 films that may not be picked up just by by like a person 1732 01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,080 glancing at them. You know, I like like like a 1733 01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:48,120 cursor. We look at them. 1734 01:20:38,070 --> 01:20:40,630 All right, so we're. Back in getting into. 1735 01:20:40,630 --> 01:20:42,870 Categories. For this film, I think Mike and 1736 01:20:42,870 --> 01:20:45,070 I both have a lot of things to say about the casting of this 1737 01:20:45,070 --> 01:20:48,440 movie. We're all familiar. 1738 01:20:48,440 --> 01:20:52,000 With the work of Harrison. Ford in his 60th year of acting, 1739 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,800 and he's come a long way from his first job as Bellhop Pedra 1740 01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:59,560 uncredited in a film called Dead Sheet on a Merry Go Round. 1741 01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:01,520 Quick aside, have you guys heard of this film? 1742 01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:06,760 Absolutely not. Right a paroled. 1743 01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,600 Conman. Coordinates the robbery of an LA 1744 01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:13,440 airport bank with the arrival of the Soviet premier. 1745 01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:19,080 Is is this extremely our shit? This is extremely our thing, 1746 01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:21,480 this. Is mid. 1747 01:21:21,480 --> 01:21:25,680 This is from 1960. 6 and it looks like an absolute banger. 1748 01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:29,080 It's like spin spin. The Wheel of. 1749 01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:33,680 The thriller plots right a spin spin spin paroled conman 1750 01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:37,520 coordinates the spin spin spin robbery of a fucking bank at a 1751 01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:42,560 spin spin spin airport in LA and spin spin spin spin the fucking 1752 01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,480 Soviet premier has also involved. 1753 01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:48,760 This seems like our shit. I would like to officially add 1754 01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:52,080 this to the list. Then it goes on to. 1755 01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,920 Playing. Irate motorist uncredited a film 1756 01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,440 called Love Lu Victor, the cutesy OWU spelling of it. 1757 01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:02,560 A weird sounding Peter Falk and Jack Lemmon film featuring 1758 01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,240 romantic cheating on your wife and suicide. 1759 01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:07,600 Sounds like a weird fucking peace. 1760 01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,640 And he was that a massive that guy in TV shows. 1761 01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,120 He did Gunsmoke Love American style. 1762 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:17,000 He did the whole character actor thing of playing two different 1763 01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:21,960 characters in the TV series, the FBI, then American Graffiti. 1764 01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:25,920 He's off to the races. And of course a certain film 1765 01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:31,160 involving some space nights and an incestuous brother and 1766 01:22:31,440 --> 01:22:34,120 sister. I speak, of course of Star Wars 1767 01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:37,120 Episode 4, and you hope and. He's just done. 1768 01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:38,640 Everything after that, he's our guy. 1769 01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:40,560 He's one of the parents sense of this show. 1770 01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:44,040 Han Solo, Jack Ryan, James Marshall IN Jones. 1771 01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,320 Absolute giant. But I want to talk about the 1772 01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,400 people who might have played this role. 1773 01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:52,760 So yeah, yeah, A1A1. Jack Ryan. 1774 01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:55,680 Was going to be there, wasn't it? 1775 01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:56,120 Yeah. Yeah. 1776 01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:57,200 Because Alec. Alec. 1777 01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:01,000 Bought an audition for it, Nick Nolte and kind of pulled out as 1778 01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:03,880 he thought he was too old. Michael Douglas, Kevin Costner, 1779 01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,960 Horseman, the running. But Mel Gibson was in the 1780 01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,720 running. Both the the Jack Ryan I mean 1781 01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:15,440 the Richard Kimball rule and and the and and the fucking US 1782 01:23:15,440 --> 01:23:19,040 Marshall rule as well. Can't imagine Mel Gibson doing 1783 01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,440 well either of those roles. I'm sorry. 1784 01:23:21,440 --> 01:23:22,320 I can't. I can't. 1785 01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:25,120 Like, what do you think of that? I mean, what? 1786 01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:26,720 Mel Gibson. Yeah, Mel. 1787 01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:29,320 Mel Gibson playing. Playing either of them, I 1788 01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:33,640 couldn't imagine them playing, no. 1789 01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:37,400 I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a fan. I'm I'm quite well, I sit on on 1790 01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:41,920 Mel Gibson now given given, you know, his current standing in 1791 01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:45,960 Hollywood in in Hollywood, Yeah, I can just about watch the 1792 01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:47,760 original Mad Max trilogy. Yeah. 1793 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:50,360 That's that's pretty much. That's pretty. 1794 01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:54,160 Much what begins and ends for me, and that might be starting 1795 01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:57,200 him short, you know, separate art from the artists and that 1796 01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,120 kind of stuff. I guess. 1797 01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:00,920 I guess at a Push movie I could watch Gallipoli. 1798 01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,600 Yeah, but I mean, I don't. I don't think. 1799 01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:04,520 He has. He hasn't. 1800 01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:07,800 Got he has got the vibe for either Richard Kimball or Samuel 1801 01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:08,880 Gerard. I don't see him. 1802 01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:10,560 He doesn't. You're right, no. 1803 01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:11,960 He's too abrasive. I. 1804 01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:15,600 Think as a as a personality. The thing with Richard Kimball 1805 01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:18,040 is. You need to be a special. 1806 01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,760 Kind of actor. To make all of the immense trade 1807 01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,640 crafts and stuff that he's doing believable. 1808 01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:26,680 There's a lot of actors who would have this, that really 1809 01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:31,400 killer phrase, far fetched that I think can. 1810 01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:34,240 Absolutely destroy. You know your enjoyment of the 1811 01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:36,920 film if someone appears far fetched, if you can't suspend A 1812 01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:40,160 disbelief. And with, with, with Harrison 1813 01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:42,680 Ford, he can suspend the disbelief that he's that he's 1814 01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:45,240 really fucking good at this. You know, and with Mel. 1815 01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:49,720 Gibson I don't think I don't. Think I can absolutely imagine. 1816 01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:51,960 Mel Gibson as a fucking heart surgeon, for one. 1817 01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:56,280 Like, you know, fucking just. I can't even think of Mel Gibson 1818 01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:59,840 without hearing that that like, angry voice merely left his 1819 01:24:59,960 --> 01:25:02,360 daughter. Was this like, you're 1820 01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,720 provocatively pressed all the time? 1821 01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:05,400 Come on. Come on. 1822 01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,360 Come on and bring his fucking. Surgical nurse. 1823 01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,080 It'll be a nightmare. Yes. 1824 01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:14,720 Like just like screaming at you for various tools. 1825 01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:19,920 It'd be horrible and couldn't believe him as Samuel Gerard, I 1826 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:23,440 think for the simple reason that there is just this streak of 1827 01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:29,320 indomitable Old West lawman that runs through Tommy Lee Jones and 1828 01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:32,520 that's something that makes his. Performance, incredibly. 1829 01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:35,480 Special Yeah, I. Totally agree. 1830 01:25:35,480 --> 01:25:37,480 We were. Talking about the passing of 1831 01:25:37,480 --> 01:25:40,200 Robert Duvall. Yeah, I'm on Robert Duvall's 1832 01:25:40,440 --> 01:25:44,160 sort of greatest credits is his role in the the miniseries 1833 01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,600 Lonesome Duck. And of course, he stars across 1834 01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:49,720 from somebody doing in that as well. 1835 01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:50,920 That's right. He dove, Max. 1836 01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:52,440 Yeah. That's right. 1837 01:25:52,440 --> 01:25:52,920 Yeah. So he's. 1838 01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:56,760 He's what is he's Woodrow. Woodrow Call and and and 1839 01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:00,000 Duvall's Augustus McRae. Is he Gus And those two make an 1840 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,840 incredible pair. Yeah. 1841 01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:06,000 Tony Jones. Tony Jones has done so many 1842 01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:07,600 Westerns. He takes so many great parts. 1843 01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:11,000 And of course, he directed and starred in the Three Deaths of 1844 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,280 Milliki's Estrada, which is a good modern day Western, isn't 1845 01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:13,880 it? I was. 1846 01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,240 I was just thinking about. That film when I was doing. 1847 01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,760 My research and getting pissed off actually, and I'll tell you 1848 01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:20,840 why, because I was thinking, right? 1849 01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:23,280 I was just kind of casting my mind back this film and thinking 1850 01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:24,920 this. I remember reading about this 1851 01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:28,440 film and it looks really cool and I keep meaning to see it and 1852 01:26:28,440 --> 01:26:32,480 then I saw it was made in 2005 S For 21 years I've been saying I 1853 01:26:32,480 --> 01:26:36,000 must see this film and it made me feel old and made me I need. 1854 01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:37,480 To. I need to to. 1855 01:26:37,480 --> 01:26:39,680 Correct myself because I said the three deaths, it's 3 1856 01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,520 barrels, 3 barrels, Milliper. Yeah. 1857 01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:46,440 You got the cool name, right? Yeah, but it's like, yeah, I 1858 01:26:46,440 --> 01:26:48,640 was. I was like, I was like thinking, 1859 01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:51,440 Oh yeah, I remember reading people getting that excited 1860 01:26:51,440 --> 01:26:52,680 about this in the media and stuff. 1861 01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:56,360 And then it's like, oh shit, that's more than 20 years ago 1862 01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:57,960 that it came out and you still haven't seen it. 1863 01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,680 Time is flying away from you. You are becoming old indeed. 1864 01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,400 Another thing to point out the actor who played Miliades 1865 01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:09,400 Estradas is is Julio Cesar Sedillo who was the the cartel 1866 01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:12,320 boss in Sicario. Holy shit. 1867 01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:16,800 What is this A. Crossover episode indeed, right? 1868 01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:17,480 Cool. Tell me the. 1869 01:27:17,480 --> 01:27:18,800 Joke. Then I guess you want to. 1870 01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:20,600 You want to talk about incredible performance? 1871 01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,280 Yeah, fully deserving. In my humble. 1872 01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:26,200 Opinion of his Academy Award for best supporting actor for this 1873 01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,640 film simply because he is magnetic. 1874 01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:33,240 Of course, after this, I think a lot of people, especially in our 1875 01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,800 generation. I know him as Agent Kick from 1876 01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,560 Madame Bland. But also lastly, No Country for 1877 01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:40,280 Old Men. Of course he plays the the 1878 01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:42,960 sheriff in that. Yeah, wild weary. 1879 01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:46,240 Lawman. Again, just just the types of. 1880 01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:46,760 Role. He was. 1881 01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:48,880 He was. Kind of born to he just, he just 1882 01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:53,840 fell into this. Role of playing craggy crabby 1883 01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:59,400 shop with badasses whether the be on the good or the bad side 1884 01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,880 of the story. He also had a really big break 1885 01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:07,160 in the film Rolling Thunder, and that is a film that I've had on 1886 01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:09,720 the clear and present dudes list since day one. 1887 01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:12,480 I think. The very violent revenge 1888 01:28:12,480 --> 01:28:17,280 thriller that is Rolling Thunder from 1977, I think. 1889 01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:18,320 Yeah, I think. That was one of his. 1890 01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:20,800 Main. Kind of rake out film rules 1891 01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:23,440 because like before that there was a lot of sort of that guy 1892 01:28:23,440 --> 01:28:25,960 kind of stuff. He also played Gary Gilmore, the 1893 01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,480 American serial killer who was killed by firing squad in the 1894 01:28:29,480 --> 01:28:32,800 film Executional Song, which is pretty fucking cool. 1895 01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:36,720 Another weird. Credit you had was just before 1896 01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:37,960 this. So while Harrison Ford was 1897 01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:42,320 making Tommy Lee Jones was in JFK as Clair Shaw and his 1898 01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:46,280 character and that is unhinged. Yes, very very big, very big 1899 01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:47,760 performance, yeah, he gives him that. 1900 01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:51,440 So, yeah, tremendous though. Yeah, he was also. 1901 01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:57,520 Tom Lee Jones was also pretty unhinged as Harvey 2 faced Dent 1902 01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:02,200 in Yeah, in in the Batman film that we all kind of forget about 1903 01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:05,400 until we remember it just there, you know, Batman, Batman and. 1904 01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:06,880 Robin, was he in Batman? Robin. 1905 01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:08,640 No, it was he. Batman Forever. 1906 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:12,960 It was Batman Forever, yeah. What? 1907 01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:16,040 Do we think of as performance? As two face do, do we do we have 1908 01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:18,200 an opinion? Because I remember a lot of 1909 01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:21,080 people hated it. I loved it, I think as a kid, 1910 01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:22,960 child. Yeah, I really loved that. 1911 01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:26,880 Film as a kid, so that's. The Val Kilmer Batman with Yeah, 1912 01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,800 obviously that's the Riddler is in that one as well. 1913 01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:31,680 Yeah. And and two faced. 1914 01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:33,560 That's the two big main bad guys in that one. 1915 01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:34,880 Yeah. That's great. 1916 01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,680 Isn't Nicole Kisman as the as the psychologist he falls in 1917 01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:40,240 love with? Yeah, yeah, great. 1918 01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:42,240 As the. One has all the cutaway shots. 1919 01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,360 Of bats flagged directly. Towards the camera, at least 1920 01:29:44,440 --> 01:29:46,920 those ones, yeah, yeah, it actually ruled it and. 1921 01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:50,520 And and in fact, the Cos Chris O'Donnell playing Robin as well 1922 01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:55,920 And and and and and and is that the one with the do you hang 1923 01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,920 around in a lot of Baker bars? Bruce Lane? 1924 01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:02,480 Yes, I think it is. And that's I'm looking for 1925 01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:06,840 something that says really Dad? Loves love Tommy Lee. 1926 01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:10,280 Jones, What a guy. Brilliantly cast in the film. 1927 01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:13,120 Like I said, we'll go on to see him in a chicken suits in in the 1928 01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:14,760 sequel. Oh wild. 1929 01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:15,600 Yeah. Yeah. 1930 01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:20,000 Ron Dean. I wasn't aware that he'd 1931 01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,840 actually recently passed away so it's kind of dug into him a bit 1932 01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:23,320 there. Yeah. 1933 01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:28,720 It's it's gone down was Ron. Dean, 1930. 8/20/25 here October 1934 01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:31,560 25 Yeah, passed away. Yeah, I saw him on the 1935 01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:34,400 immemorial, but the actors, Yeah, last night, so. 1936 01:30:34,440 --> 01:30:38,800 So, so his, his last performance was in Chicago PD and I know you 1937 01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:43,400 kind of Chicago PD Max, yes, we call, we call it the one. 1938 01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:46,800 Chicago, The one Chicago family. Over there on MB. 1939 01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:48,920 Yeah, he was. He was also in. 1940 01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:51,360 Chicago Fire as well. He was in three episodes of 1941 01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,720 Chicago Fire. He was in one episode of Chicago 1942 01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:55,760 PD. That'll be right across the 1943 01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:59,160 river. Yeah, but this guy has. 1944 01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:01,520 No, he's actually played two different characters. 1945 01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:05,800 He played Ray Sharansky in Chicago PD and James Horitzky. 1946 01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:09,600 So his whole thing is playing Chicago Polish guys. 1947 01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:13,120 Yeah, I am just. Going to say that right now. 1948 01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:16,520 Just looking at his like previous roles and stuff, he's 1949 01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,960 he's he's played a lot of guys with Ski in the name. 1950 01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:24,120 He plays a guy called Kowalski in the film The Big Score, 1983. 1951 01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:26,200 Brilliant. He's there. 1952 01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:30,440 He's. He's. 1953 01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:34,400 He's perhaps one of these guys. The casting directors say he he 1954 01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:38,920 has a pleasing, he has a pleasingly Eastern seaboard 1955 01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:43,120 Slavic expression, I guess what could be made to have one. 1956 01:31:44,480 --> 01:31:45,760 So yeah, what? What a. 1957 01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:48,240 What a. Dude, he was in the Guardian. 1958 01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:52,360 The Top Gun, The Coast Guard. Swimmers first. 1959 01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:53,800 Swimmers. Yeah, that. 1960 01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:56,240 That I will still fight. In the streets for something 1961 01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:57,840 that's a fucking good film, but I don't care. 1962 01:31:57,840 --> 01:31:59,520 I love that I want to put it on a list but it's. 1963 01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:02,040 Totally not. It's I'm not something like. 1964 01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,840 It's not from a. British fucking class and it's 1965 01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:09,240 also got safeguard A tolerable performance by. 1966 01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:12,480 Ashton. Kutcher. 1967 01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:14,720 It's actually Ashton Kutcher. Yeah, that's actually tolerable. 1968 01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:18,280 Ashton Kutcher performance. Yeah, that's about as. 1969 01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:20,800 Much as I just give it. Yeah, it's yeah. 1970 01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:24,920 Yeah, Kevin Costner, of course. There's there's good innings, 1971 01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:29,600 that guy who was in Banda Brothers and that doesn't mean 1972 01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:31,960 no return, that guy who was one of. 1973 01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:34,560 The other instructors. The guy, yeah, he's one of the 1974 01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:36,240 instructors. He's he's really good. 1975 01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:39,720 Yeah, I'll tell you. What So Ron Dean? 1976 01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:41,400 Was also in Chicago. Hope. 1977 01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:44,120 Oh cool. He, he, he really. 1978 01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:46,280 Is incredibly Chicago. He was. 1979 01:32:46,480 --> 01:32:47,600 He was. He was in a. 1980 01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:51,280 Film called Chicago Cab playing old snack trucker. 1981 01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:53,280 Fucking brilliant. This is Sky. 1982 01:32:53,440 --> 01:32:56,880 Absolutely rules. Was he an ER by any chance as. 1983 01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:59,800 Well, it was an ER. Playing a character. 1984 01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:04,040 Called Uncle Joey. He was in the TV series early 1985 01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:06,600 edition quite a lot. 17 episodes. 1986 01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:10,600 He was a regular. I'm not sure he was a Frazier in 1987 01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:11,320 three. Episodes. 1988 01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:13,360 Did he buy any he played? Someone called Frank. 1989 01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:15,800 Was that one of Frasier's dad's cop buddies by any chance? 1990 01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:17,920 Oh, it's gonna be. It's gonna. 1991 01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:22,400 Be yes I've. Just realised. 1992 01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:24,880 We've forgotten. To mention that Tommy Lee Jones 1993 01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:29,600 was in Newcastle, mentioned Stormy Monday. 1994 01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:32,680 What an absolute guy Ron Dean was. 1995 01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:37,520 What a Stella, Stella, that guy. He's been in everything. 1996 01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:40,400 I love it. Acting is another conduit. 1997 01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:44,360 That we've done more than once. Yeah, the the TV show Frasier 1998 01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:48,840 has also given also given us Sela Ward, who is Helen the the 1999 01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:51,320 suddenly do a lot with his wife of Richard Kimble. 2000 01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:53,400 Yeah. The actress is still not she. 2001 01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:55,280 She was an Independence Day researcher. 2002 01:33:55,440 --> 01:33:57,800 Gone Girl. She's the woman who gives the TV 2003 01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:01,280 interview and Gone Girl to to Ben Affleck's character. 2004 01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:04,520 I think obviously she's in this, she's in the remake of doing 2005 01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:06,400 dancing. She's in a she's in a bunch of 2006 01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:09,960 TV, but she's also was Frasier's girlfriend in an episode as 2007 01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:11,760 well. I've always felt about fucking 2008 01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,320 wild how we had a good new. Girlfriend every episode and 2009 01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:17,120 fucked it up, right. It was amazing, Yeah. 2010 01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:20,760 Incredible, incredible show. It's also worth pointing out, 2011 01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:23,720 speaking about the Guardian, she was in the guardian. 2012 01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:27,960 She's the she's barried to Kevin Costner in it and they separate. 2013 01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:30,000 That's what it is. The Guardian for all it's a 2014 01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:31,960 good. Film is also an incredibly 2015 01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:35,360 divorced man film. Oh, big time it is. 2016 01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:38,800 So divorced that film. It is incredibly divorced. 2017 01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:42,080 It's good as fuck, but God damn is that film divorced. 2018 01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:43,880 It's sad, isn't it? Because. 2019 01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:46,240 The. The the moral of that story as 2020 01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:49,200 well is like, if you're going to get divorced, you might as well 2021 01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:52,160 die. You might as well fucking. 2022 01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:54,800 Die. At sea, but then be be 2023 01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:57,760 remembered as possibly some kind of ghost that stays with the 2024 01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:00,360 people who were almost drowning and shit when it goes. 2025 01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:02,720 There's a little bit of magical realism in the last like few 2026 01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,720 beats beautiful. Have you seen? 2027 01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:11,640 The film The Guardian. I have never seen the Guardian. 2028 01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:15,520 Nor am I divorced. Nor do I plan on dying at sea 2029 01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:19,640 anytime soon. Cool, right. 2030 01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:26,120 Julianne Moore, Yes, right. Yeah. 2031 01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:28,760 Sorry, casting. OK, I'll tell you what, some of 2032 01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:30,080 these people are really famous actors. 2033 01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:31,200 We don't need to go for their entire. 2034 01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:33,880 Oh, yeah, I will. I will say, I will say Julianne 2035 01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:35,680 Moore, who plays a very small role in this movie. 2036 01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,160 Yeah. Was also obviously does an 2037 01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:41,320 incredible gangbusters performance in in Paul Thomas 2038 01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:44,960 Anderson's Magnolia where she has that one of the old timer 2039 01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:47,960 crash outs in the pharmacy. You see, you call me lady. 2040 01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:49,600 I give these things to you. Are you? 2041 01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:51,840 I give these things to call me lady Suck. 2042 01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:54,800 My God. Hey, it's hey, it's hey, it's my 2043 01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:56,720 house. I've deafened my back. 2044 01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:00,600 Hey, hey, it's that scene. That that other film podcast 2045 01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:02,840 references all the time. All the time. 2046 01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:05,560 Yeah, Call me lady. My God. 2047 01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:08,440 Incredible. Yeah, Joy pants in. 2048 01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:10,440 Joey Pants, Joey. Pants, right. 2049 01:36:10,440 --> 01:36:13,560 So he does a really good role in Wonder Man, which is currently 2050 01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:14,440 on Disney. Yeah. 2051 01:36:14,480 --> 01:36:17,840 Plus at the minute it's the latest Marvel show about a 2052 01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:19,960 couple of actors. One of them is superpowered and 2053 01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:22,680 doesn't doesn't want to be, and the one is investigating him. 2054 01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:25,640 But Joey Pantsolano is in two episodes and he plays himself 2055 01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:27,600 and it's hilarious. So he lives. 2056 01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:29,360 He lives in this amazing. House. 2057 01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:32,440 Which is like, because the whole the one of the gags is that he 2058 01:36:32,440 --> 01:36:35,400 got really involved in like the property market when he first 2059 01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:37,760 made his first money. It is now obscenely rich. 2060 01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:40,840 And he and he has this incredible house, which has like 2061 01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:43,920 like a skylight that you open with a remote control to feed 2062 01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:46,080 lights to a beautiful tree in his living room. 2063 01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:49,360 But also all the walls of his house are covered in posters for 2064 01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:52,480 baby's day out. That sounds incredibly. 2065 01:36:52,480 --> 01:36:54,800 Dope, it's so good, he said. He's. 2066 01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:56,360 Absolutely. Hilarious in it, yeah, he 2067 01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:57,600 absolutely takes the piss out himself. 2068 01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:01,000 There's one bit where the the lead guy who who plays the 2069 01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:05,280 Potipus actor who's going to be Wonder Man, he says like, I 2070 01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:06,800 can't eat a stake without thinking about you in the 2071 01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:09,320 Matrix. Just holy crap. 2072 01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:11,280 Just. Like just like stuff 3 pants. 2073 01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:13,520 I forgot he was in this film until I put it on and I was 2074 01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:15,560 like, oh fuck, 3 Pants is here, thank God. 2075 01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:17,360 Get in great. And of course, he's in US 2076 01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:20,720 Marshals as well. And he's and, you know, of the 2077 01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:24,720 key roles for him, people with the Matrix, people who babies 2078 01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:25,320 stay out. Yeah. 2079 01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:28,440 Yeah. Oh, what's the really good one? 2080 01:37:28,480 --> 01:37:30,680 That he's fantastic. Memento as well. 2081 01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:32,880 Yeah. I love. 2082 01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:35,880 As well how once? Again, this this this film seems 2083 01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:38,760 like pulled together a lot of people who've done some 2084 01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:42,280 fantastic kind of that guy work. Joey Pants. 2085 01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:46,640 He's he's been in MASH. He was in the spin off Trapper 2086 01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:49,520 John, MD. He was in the Hill Street Blues. 2087 01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:51,480 Heart. The heart. 2088 01:37:51,480 --> 01:37:54,000 Holy crap. Man, and he was in right an 2089 01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:56,560 episode of Highlander the TV series. 2090 01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:59,520 This I think is our first Highlander the TV series 2091 01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:03,240 crossover in custody we've had so far. 2092 01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:06,760 It was in one episode he plays someone called Doctor Wilder. 2093 01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:10,840 I think this might have been in the point when the Highlander TV 2094 01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:14,880 series started filming in Canada after like. 2095 01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:18,080 Transition from. Duncan the Clouds, this cool 2096 01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:21,600 dude who lives on a houseboat in Paris and totally folks and 2097 01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:24,160 doors to like wine receptions and shit. 2098 01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:26,840 And then I think like the Canadian end of the production 2099 01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:30,080 wanted to move to Canada. So he goes, he opens the gym. 2100 01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:34,520 There's a fucking like boxing gym, but it's like fucking good 2101 01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:35,440 show, man. But yeah, so. 2102 01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:39,160 Isn't so, so much stuff, man. He's an absolute that guy. 2103 01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:42,400 And then like bang, he's in, he's in the Fugitive. 2104 01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:47,200 So he he goes like a so a year before he's in the fugitive, 2105 01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:50,960 he's doing a bit part as Doctor Wilder and Hailand are the TV 2106 01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:56,600 series fucking amazing. Yeah, I've just seen babies D. 2107 01:38:56,600 --> 01:39:03,200 Out There 6. .2 stars in 1994 again and and NYPD Blue. 2108 01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:05,840 He had an uncredited appearance in Congo. 2109 01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:10,760 Wow. I don't know if I want to add 2110 01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:11,720 that to the. Lists. 2111 01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:16,000 I don't know if is is a good enough biotech, Probably isn't 2112 01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:19,600 is Congo. The one that has Laura Linney in 2113 01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:22,800 it shooting a gun, That Congo's one of the big white. 2114 01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:26,160 Apes. Yes, yes, yeah, Laura is not. 1 2115 01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:28,200 Yet Laura is. There she shoots a thing in a 2116 01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:29,440 volcano. Kills all the apes. 2117 01:39:29,440 --> 01:39:30,640 That's on fire. Yeah. 2118 01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:33,080 We should watch that. Yeah, maybe we should. 2119 01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:34,320 I don't know, but let's watch. You can see. 2120 01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:35,160 Yeah. Yeah, let's. 2121 01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:38,760 Just check it out because it's not the only biotech gone wrong. 2122 01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:44,040 Kind of kind of big, big pharma commerce bad kind of thing. 2123 01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:49,200 But also but but also but but. Also it might have. 2124 01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:51,840 Fucking ruled. I mean it ruled when I was 12, 2125 01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:54,600 right? That was the dopest thing ever. 2126 01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:59,480 But when I was like but but. A but a fucking ban? 2127 01:39:59,480 --> 01:40:03,000 And it may not be good now. I think some of the effect. 2128 01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:06,440 Shots might not have aged. Very well should we talk about. 2129 01:40:06,440 --> 01:40:08,920 Some of the people who are. Below the line a little bit, 2130 01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:13,640 Absolutely. Andreas with Andreas Katsulas. 2131 01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:15,440 What a career. What a guy. 2132 01:40:15,440 --> 01:40:19,560 Guitar in double on five. Yeah. 2133 01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:22,240 Yeah. So I've got. 2134 01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:23,160 I've got to. Tell you right. 2135 01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:25,040 Growing up, I wasn't a big bubble on five head. 2136 01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:28,200 I don't know if this is, I don't know if this is a thing, but to 2137 01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:30,520 me it felt very much like you're a Babylon 5 head or you're a 2138 01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:34,360 TNG, maybe DS Deep Space 9 head. And I was, I was definitely on 2139 01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:37,480 the Star Trek side of the I think I was as. 2140 01:40:37,480 --> 01:40:40,000 Well, yeah, actually I was more. Firmly on the space above and 2141 01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:43,160 beyond sight who only had one fucking season, mate. 2142 01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:46,000 But come on, I think we've talked about that on the pod. 2143 01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:50,000 Before the hyper military, not colonial marines but like United 2144 01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:54,640 States Marines space. Of year as RA, I mean my main. 2145 01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:56,680 Beef about that. Is it's like the film came out 2146 01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:59,880 when America wasn't embroiled in a series of forever wars. 2147 01:40:59,880 --> 01:41:03,200 And if it waited a couple of years, I would have run like 17 2148 01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:05,960 seasons, Yeah, basically generation. 2149 01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:08,280 Killing. Spec Moto as fuck, so yeah. 2150 01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:11,520 Yeah, he was, he was. He was Gakkar in Babylon Five. 2151 01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:17,440 He was in Alien Nation. His final rule was doing was 2152 01:41:17,440 --> 01:41:22,440 doing voice work in Tom Clancy's been a sell double agent 2006 2153 01:41:22,440 --> 01:41:26,040 because everything comes back to Tom Clancy. 2154 01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:29,760 But yeah, this, this guy's done so much alien guy stuff. 2155 01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:33,160 He's Alien Max in Babylon 5, Alien Max in Star Trek, and a 2156 01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:37,760 prize Star Trek TNG. He was in the most generically 2157 01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:40,640 titled police movie ever, New York Car. 2158 01:41:42,440 --> 01:41:44,560 What? The hell I am really. 2159 01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:47,120 Sorry, this is like a fucking Bojack Horseman joke and he look 2160 01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:51,880 into this right the hell now. Brace, a Japanese detective. 2161 01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:54,480 Illegally. Residing in the US, finds 2162 01:41:54,480 --> 01:41:58,960 himself blackmailed by the NYPD internal force and sent 2163 01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:02,360 undercover to break a rig of Asian gun dealers. 2164 01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:06,480 Ah, it is a Japanese film, I think. 2165 01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:10,760 I'm not sure, but that's what the New York cockpit is. 2166 01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:14,520 An alluring title, an absolute I top cast of. 2167 01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:19,560 This film Mira Sorvino is in it. She's the most recognisable 2168 01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:21,560 person by. Anyway, getting back to the man, 2169 01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:23,600 Mira Sorvino is a good, like a good. 2170 01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:26,720 Kind of horseman level actor. She is she. 2171 01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:30,080 Is actually kind of Bojack. Boxing Place. 2172 01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:31,960 Herself famous actress Mira Sorvino. 2173 01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:36,800 Yeah, but like Zach, Braff is famous actor Zach. 2174 01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:39,280 Braff in it. I love how we get said killed 2175 01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:41,160 and. Cannibalised in that show and. 2176 01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:45,160 Steaman's character actors Margaret Martin. 2177 01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:50,120 So Katsulis's first. Film was a film called OK Pal, 2178 01:42:50,480 --> 01:42:53,360 which is like the best way to like dismiss of the end a text 2179 01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:55,480 message conversation with someone who's pissing you off. 2180 01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:58,840 So that's pretty class. And again, just fantastic that 2181 01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:01,560 guy work. He was an equaliser on TV 2182 01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:07,480 Mancuso, FBI, Jake and the Fat Man ATV series that I didn't 2183 01:43:07,480 --> 01:43:09,920 think exist that I thought it was like a joke title. 2184 01:43:10,600 --> 01:43:13,680 And as I said, Alien nation got shot on that. 2185 01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:17,920 He was in the film Communion as well, that mind bending Whitley 2186 01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:22,440 Strieber in an abduction film. And he was in an episode of 2187 01:43:22,440 --> 01:43:24,280 Millennium too. And anyone who has been an 2188 01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:27,000 episode of Millennium fucking rules in my opinion. 2189 01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:29,320 OK by me. You're OK. 2190 01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:32,120 You're OK. Yeah, I'd sit on my table 2191 01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:34,120 anytime, man. Break bread with anybody who was 2192 01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:37,000 in Millennium every day of the week and twice on Sundays, or 2193 01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:39,680 the guy I'd like to. Volunteer. 2194 01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:43,960 Kirsten Nelson to this list of people should she has a really 2195 01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:47,720 short role in this. She plays Betty who is she works 2196 01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:49,960 at a hospital basically she's got red hair in this so you 2197 01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:51,880 don't you don't you don't recognise her straight away, but 2198 01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:56,000 she is famous for being Karen Vick the the chief of police in 2199 01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:59,320 in Santa Barbara in psych supporting movies. 2200 01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:02,560 She's got a very small role in the world in 2005. 2201 01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:05,560 Her other big credit for me. I mean she's didn't lose the 2202 01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:07,920 stuff right. This is other Miss and Bob's 2203 01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:11,000 NCIS, all that kind of thing. No one is that There's an 2204 01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:13,800 episode of The West Wing at the end of Season 2 called 2 2205 01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:17,560 Cathedral is the episode where Miss Landingham died in a car 2206 01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:20,000 accident. Yeah, and President Bartlett has 2207 01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:21,640 to make the decision whether or not he's going to announce to 2208 01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:25,120 the press that he's running for re election and also that he had 2209 01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:28,080 and he has an incredible seat where he's like in the in the in 2210 01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:31,640 the National Cathedral and he's swearing at God in Latin. 2211 01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:33,480 He stubs the cigarette out on the floor. 2212 01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:35,440 And it's like it's one of those epic scenes that you always see 2213 01:44:35,440 --> 01:44:37,080 in stuff. But that's that episode was like 2214 01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:40,600 tools and flashback as well. So like to Jed Bartlett's early 2215 01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:42,720 beginnings when he's at a boys school and his dad's headmaster 2216 01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:45,960 and he's had a day and he's one friend works as an administrator 2217 01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:47,680 at the school. And it's Mrs Lantingham and 2218 01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:50,880 she's played in her young form by Kirsten Nelson. 2219 01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:53,640 And she does an amazing perform. So some of the one of the best 2220 01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:57,200 scenes of that entire show is played by an actor who comes in, 2221 01:44:57,200 --> 01:45:00,560 does like one, one rule as a as a flashback to an existing 2222 01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:02,320 character and like, steals it. She's great. 2223 01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:03,800 Amazing. Yeah. 2224 01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:04,280 Really cool. So I. 2225 01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:07,160 Want to give her a shout out? Definitely Jane Lynch, I think. 2226 01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:08,920 Needs a shout out. She definitely does. 2227 01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:11,360 Yeah, I'm sure she brought that. Badge from home and it totally 2228 01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:13,400 works. Yeah, it totally works. 2229 01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:15,920 She's a great comedic actress. She's. 2230 01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:16,920 Done loads of great stuff lately. 2231 01:45:17,160 --> 01:45:18,880 Only met her in the building. She's she's done. 2232 01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:22,640 She was in a mighty wind. She's one of those, you know, 2233 01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:25,280 Christopher Guest largely improvised films with like, you 2234 01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:27,920 know, Catherine O'Hara and Eugene Levy and all that. 2235 01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:30,320 She, she did that one. That's the one about the folk 2236 01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:32,160 singers and stuff. She's really good at that. 2237 01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:34,600 She's done. Obviously I think a lot of 2238 01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:37,480 people in our generation, and maybe even Sonia's generation, 2239 01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:40,960 will recognise Glee. Do you remember Glee? 2240 01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:47,240 Right, OK, blinks in. Zuma. 2241 01:45:48,440 --> 01:45:50,000 She's she's. Still like a wedge? 2242 01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:54,120 Of of voice worker as well, but she's cool on this. 2243 01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:57,120 There was a bit of trivia that was that they were gonna, in the 2244 01:45:57,120 --> 01:45:59,680 original screenplay, they were trying to kind of ham up a 2245 01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:04,400 potential love interest between her character in in Kimballs. 2246 01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:06,440 And then they kind of realised it's probably quite bad taste 2247 01:46:06,440 --> 01:46:09,600 because his wife's just been murdered and he's trying to seek 2248 01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:11,920 justice for that. And I think they've like part of 2249 01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:14,320 the decision making process to pivot her in the other direction 2250 01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:16,760 was like, we'll put a load of badges on her and the AIDS 2251 01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:20,040 ribbon and we'll just kind of really kind of like, certainly 2252 01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:21,800 imply that she might not be straight. 2253 01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:24,280 Yeah. So they're allowed to be. 2254 01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:26,160 Pals. Yeah, and and it's like. 2255 01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:33,720 Fucking hell, a romance subplot would have absolutely busted 2256 01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:34,840 this. Film would. 2257 01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:37,560 Have not been They would have derailed it like the train. 2258 01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:39,880 At the start, yeah. It's, it's like, you know what? 2259 01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:40,960 He. Saying about she just, like, 2260 01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:42,960 gets in the car, that Lady that picked him up. 2261 01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:45,720 And that's where the film ends because they just like, Nash off 2262 01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:48,120 and he like, changes his identity and like, the fuck off 2263 01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:51,160 to Canada and he gets a good job at some, like, some like, 2264 01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:53,280 hospital there. And that's like the romance side 2265 01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:54,400 of the film. Jesus. 2266 01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:58,480 Like, no, it would have been ruined by a romantic subplot 2267 01:46:58,480 --> 01:47:00,040 between him and Jane Lynch's character. 2268 01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:05,320 Yeah, Richard Real. Yeah, shit. 2269 01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:07,520 Still incredibly. Active, right? 2270 01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:11,360 OK, this guy, this guy fucking works, right? 2271 01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:14,600 This guy's credits on IMDb, for a start. 2272 01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:21,800 He's in 12 projects listed as upcoming, 12 of them 12 his. 2273 01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:27,200 Previous. Credits of 427, Rolls 678. 2274 01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:32,640 910-1111 Roles in 2023 alone. Holy crap, 400. 2275 01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:35,040 One of those. Yeah, one of those was Barry. 2276 01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:37,720 And he plays a prison. Warden yes, to be a call back to 2277 01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:40,400 this because Bill here is a huge movie head and I I thought 2278 01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:43,000 right, who who I want to play in my piece of shit rubbish prison 2279 01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:44,360 Warden and then he gets Barry killed. 2280 01:47:44,480 --> 01:47:47,200 Oh, I know the guy who got the fuck up Richard Kimball killed. 2281 01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:51,000 Fantastic, I can get in. So. 2282 01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:53,360 Good, I I want. To have a quick look at the. 2283 01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:55,160 Start this guy's creaxel. I've seen. 2284 01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:56,880 Well, this takes ages to Scroll down. 2285 01:47:57,560 --> 01:47:58,720 Incredible, man. Yeah. 2286 01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:01,400 I'm going to hit right? Into the 90s and see what he's. 2287 01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:03,440 Doing at. This this sort of period, He's 2288 01:48:03,440 --> 01:48:06,800 isn't a film called He's. Isn't a film called from 1978 to 2289 01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:10,680 the Other Side of Hell playing a character called Tattooed Man? 2290 01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:14,640 This sounds fucking dope. Some of these movies are all 2291 01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:15,320 great. Tales isn't. 2292 01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:17,480 A film called Nasty Boy. Nasty Boys. 2293 01:48:17,480 --> 01:48:19,920 I love it. Nasty Boys, Nasty. 2294 01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:22,640 Voice. Holy shit the actually the last 2295 01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:24,480 Side of hell sounds fucking badass. 2296 01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,120 A disturbed but highly intelligent man is sent to a 2297 01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:30,680 criminally insane hospital to serve time and rehabilitate, but 2298 01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:33,360 when he arrives he discovers it's in fact a closed world 2299 01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:35,560 where brutality is an everyday occurrence. 2300 01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:40,040 Oh this sounds fucking mental. Some of these titles are 2301 01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:41,840 absolutely brilliant. Oh my God. 2302 01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:45,000 He was in Quantum Leap. He was in the film Glory as a 2303 01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:47,560 Cornermaster. He was in Fear and Loathing in 2304 01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:50,920 Las Vegas. What just Bigelow male? 2305 01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:55,320 Gigolo and casino and office space or some of his like you 2306 01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:58,280 know more high profile ones office business fantastic he was 2307 01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:02,280 he was in a film called crash. .0 that has 3.4 stars. 2308 01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:05,600 I have to see what this films about a. 2309 01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:09,160 Scientist recovers a. Powerful weaponry created by 2310 01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:12,760 inventor Nikola Tesla in the early 20th century. 2311 01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:15,920 Now the plane carrying the device that a desperate group of 2312 01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:18,440 passengers crashes in the Canadian mountains. 2313 01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:22,200 The battle to survive begins. It looks like this film was also 2314 01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:26,640 known as extreme limits. This is sounds like someone like 2315 01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:30,520 span the wheel of Clive Cussler plots didn't there Joe. 2316 01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:33,720 And that's what we should do. Before we move on, Joe and 2317 01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:34,880 Krabbe. Yeah. 2318 01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:38,000 Plays the the the the the the the bad guy over credits 2319 01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:42,280 includes a 1989 film adaptation of the Punisher that I've just 2320 01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:45,200 found out exists and it's no Punisher front castle. 2321 01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:48,200 Yeah, it's, it's it's. It's it's not great. 2322 01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:52,840 He's a big one, the. Living daylights Bond the Bond 2323 01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:53,800 movie. Great movie. 2324 01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:57,360 The the first two of the Dalton Bond Yeah, so probably isn't got 2325 01:49:57,360 --> 01:49:59,480 a fair shake. Oh, he's also in Juice Piccolo 2326 01:49:59,480 --> 01:50:01,280 European gigolo. So we've got another juice 2327 01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:02,680 Piccolo mentioned that. What's the second? 2328 01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:07,240 Say that twice that, yeah. Yeah, he's in Miami Vice. 2329 01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:09,880 Go on through, I love the Dutch. Language. 2330 01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:11,640 But Hitler, dude. What's next? 2331 01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:12,280 Hitler. Dude. 2332 01:50:12,280 --> 01:50:15,360 But no, he was. In that incredibly fucking 2333 01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:19,520 doomed TV miniseries, World War Three that were talked about in 2334 01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:23,400 one of our earliest episodes were mentioned in Meteor. 2335 01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:27,000 Yeah, I think he plays one of the one of the bad Soviet guys, 2336 01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:31,080 Colonel Alexander Vorachin. But yeah, of course, this 2337 01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:33,840 character in Miami Vice was called Klaus Hertzog. 2338 01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:37,200 That's brilliant. The weapons free. 2339 01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:39,520 Section the guns. The the gunfight and the weapons 2340 01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:42,200 handling and stuff. Indeed I. 2341 01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:45,880 Really love how of course. You've you've got like Marshall 2342 01:50:45,880 --> 01:50:50,080 has has his back backup pistol because because every because 2343 01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:52,120 every badass lawman needs a backup pistol. 2344 01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:58,520 But I really like how Gerard has Glock 22 as a sidearm and his 2345 01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:02,160 backup is another fucking additional Glock 22 in a little 2346 01:51:02,160 --> 01:51:04,200 Fanny pack. Absolutely love that. 2347 01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:07,160 But like a kind of like using using like armouring and 2348 01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:09,480 firearms as a storytelling kind of piece. 2349 01:51:09,480 --> 01:51:12,120 I like that he's like a typical boomer, but he's not using a 2350 01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:16,640 fucking cool 1911, right? Like he's like he's he's like a 2351 01:51:16,640 --> 01:51:20,200 legit boomer aged guy, but he's embraced the Glock. 2352 01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:23,520 He's embraced modernity and double stacked magazines. 2353 01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:27,680 And he in in the sequel, he thins Robert Downey Junior out 2354 01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:29,920 for his choice of weapon and tells we should get a Glock 2355 01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:33,600 instead, which I really like. It does, yeah, I think. 2356 01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:36,280 Yeah, we'll talk about that when we do US Marshals, I think. 2357 01:51:36,440 --> 01:51:38,280 Yeah, Boy, your boy. Your boy. 2358 01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:40,720 Oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy. 2359 01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:45,080 The house raid scene I absolutely love, just like of 2360 01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:48,680 the kind of violence of action when they go in and the US 2361 01:51:48,680 --> 01:51:51,880 Marshall team with way the look and the way the move. 2362 01:51:51,960 --> 01:51:55,160 If you showed it to someone out of context, it looks like a home 2363 01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:59,720 invasion. And I love that excess class. 2364 01:51:59,960 --> 01:52:03,680 And it's like, it is a very like, it's violence of action at 2365 01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:05,800 stake, surprise, it's aggression. 2366 01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:08,560 And I love the bit when he kind of gets himself round and 2367 01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:12,160 outflanks the guy and just straight up fucking dooms him as 2368 01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:14,560 far as weapon choices and weapon usage and stuff. 2369 01:52:14,600 --> 01:52:17,480 It's another film where a Heckler and cock rifle is used 2370 01:52:17,480 --> 01:52:22,320 by a cunt. Because there is a Heckler and 2371 01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:24,560 cock. HK 91 which is the civilian 2372 01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:29,240 version of the G3 which I imagine all the German boomers 2373 01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:33,480 idolise like but. Yeah, so there's so. 2374 01:52:33,480 --> 01:52:36,880 There's the HK 91, which is a civilian version of the G3. 2375 01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:41,600 As I said, I imagine your your your your German boomers 2376 01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:46,920 probably have the same opinion of that as ours do of the SLR, 2377 01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:49,160 the FN file. Big bullet son. 2378 01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:52,600 Well. Let me put it this way, there's. 2379 01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:54,760 1. Rifle we still keep in service 2380 01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:57,000 and use it for replenishment at sea. 2381 01:52:57,000 --> 01:52:59,280 Bullshit. And that's the G Yeah, that 2382 01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:01,760 would go I love. The person that she bullshit. 2383 01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:05,440 Yeah, the big dildo across Supreme. 2384 01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:09,760 Sorry, the soft nose projectile, not the soft nose projectile I 2385 01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:11,360 love. It yeah, it's gonna put all my 2386 01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:13,800 pants. Yeah, so, so, so. 2387 01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:14,640 There's some cool. Sick. 2388 01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:16,240 You've been some fucking cool guns in it. 2389 01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:18,880 We are getting close to the end and I want to do some shit 2390 01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:22,840 before we completely crash out and very, very quickly before 2391 01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:25,160 you do that. Yeah, I know. 2392 01:53:25,160 --> 01:53:26,240 I'm. Playing with fire here because 2393 01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:27,880 your. Laptop, but but I was just 2394 01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:30,040 saying, I was just thinking we probably could have a bit of a 2395 01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:33,600 bingo card for stuff you say about weapons on this podcast 2396 01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:37,320 like big bullet sons on there, big bullets and 9:00. 2397 01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:40,960 Mil kills the body 4. 545 the soul, just just. 2398 01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:43,400 Just. All the gun range food memes 2399 01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:45,600 that are reference, yeah, but you? 2400 01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:47,680 Absolutely. And and and. 2401 01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:49,720 Now we'll have. Hector and cock make rifles for 2402 01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:51,120 cunts. Brilliant. 2403 01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:53,560 Yeah, I want to get a. T-shirt at this this big good 2404 01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:56,120 card and how about being Oh my God, how is something amazing? 2405 01:53:56,880 --> 01:53:59,040 Quickly get into the notes in the peanut gallery. 2406 01:53:59,480 --> 01:54:02,760 Use us on letterbox.com. Do my work for me by posting 2407 01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:06,200 funny reviews starting with 1 1/2 star ones. 2408 01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:11,000 Watch the TV show Sorry, half a star ones, half a star. 2409 01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:12,800 It's cheeks. Half a star. 2410 01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:19,480 Nobody remembers this movie. 1/2 of a star, says Liam Metcalf. 2411 01:54:19,480 --> 01:54:21,800 One word Cringe. Who are these people? 2412 01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:24,120 Who the fuck are these? People. 2413 01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:29,040 Half a star right after watching I got spoiled for Logan made me 2414 01:54:29,040 --> 01:54:31,960 hate the movie. These people are maniacs 2415 01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:34,720 supposed to Logan. A movie that wouldn't come out 2416 01:54:34,720 --> 01:54:38,520 for another fucking 15 years? What the fuck Mental 1 1/2. 2417 01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:43,880 Star Reviews Hey bitch, it's PM. I'm tired, tipsy and bitter. 2418 01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:46,120 All caps. Fuck this film. 2419 01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:48,720 Fuck it. What is the trench coat 2420 01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:52,280 convention? The insane capitalization in 2421 01:54:52,280 --> 01:54:57,840 this one makes it as well. OK, but he totally did bargain. 2422 01:54:58,040 --> 01:55:00,560 Like remember when he made a big temper tantrum but have a 2423 01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:04,240 bargaining big baby doesn't bargain and then he bargained. 2424 01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:10,440 Half a stop, 1/2 stop is 1. Someone called Jason, most dads 2425 01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:13,240 like slop like this. Well my dad loves little man 2426 01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:16,440 with ball and weeds. You could never be as cool as my 2427 01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:23,160 father. 1 1/2 stars from Connor. Malloy, that's a very simple 2428 01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:25,120 Patrick's Day escape coded name, right? 2429 01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:28,000 So he's getting away. Let's let's find some slightly 2430 01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:29,560 higher views. Let's go to the three star 2431 01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:33,480 review section if you watch. This movie and don't hear. 2432 01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:35,800 John Mulaney's voice showing the ballroom scene. 2433 01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:38,840 Did you really even watch this movie? 2434 01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:40,280 Now I. Finally, understand that. 2435 01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:44,720 John Mulaney bit, says someone. It's that ballroom from the 2436 01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:45,640 movie The. Future death. 2437 01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:48,760 Yeah, it's a famous hotel in Chicago, the Hilton. 2438 01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:51,600 I think it is in there. Another three star, this guy. 2439 01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:55,520 Won't shut up about his wife. Another 3. 2440 01:55:55,520 --> 01:55:57,400 Star if you can't park. There mate. 2441 01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:02,280 The shot of the Harrison Ford. Dummy. 2442 01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:07,720 Send to get down the Dam was my favourite part of this movie, my 2443 01:56:07,720 --> 01:56:10,440 glasses. Three stars is your. 2444 01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:13,520 Harrison Ford running because you'd better go catch it. 2445 01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:19,000 Absolute banger after banger for this one. 2446 01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:23,600 OK bitch, call the cops, I'll have. 2447 01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:26,560 Sex with them Three stars from someone called Jared. 2448 01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:30,960 Thank you, Jared. Emily. 2449 01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:34,040 Says 3. Stars Harrison Ford, a doll out 2450 01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:38,000 of the beard is 100% three stars from someone named Victoria. 2451 01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:40,080 This is the only way to lead a search party. 2452 01:56:40,240 --> 01:56:42,280 What I want from each and everyone of you is a hard 2453 01:56:42,280 --> 01:56:43,960 target. Search for every gas station, 2454 01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:47,280 residence, warehouse, farmhouse, hen house outhouse and dog house 2455 01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:50,600 in that area. Also all caps Jane Lynch 2456 01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:55,600 exclamation mark, Question mark exclamation mark fantastic. 2457 01:56:57,680 --> 01:56:59,240 Let's find some. Real glowing. 2458 01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:03,520 Reviews here. Let's go to the Let's go of the 2459 01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:04,840 five. Star reviews and. 2460 01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:06,680 See what people are really freaking out about. 2461 01:57:07,120 --> 01:57:10,360 Increasingly convinced movies have never gotten better than 2462 01:57:10,360 --> 01:57:12,400 this. That's more like it. 2463 01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:13,800 Yeah. There we go. 2464 01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:15,480 Now, now. We're dealing with the people 2465 01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:17,600 who want maniacs. We've broken through the fucking 2466 01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:21,200 containment area of this movie is straight cheeks and ruined 2467 01:57:21,200 --> 01:57:23,240 Logan somehow. What? 2468 01:57:23,240 --> 01:57:24,880 I too was pick up Harrison fall off. 2469 01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:27,320 The side of the road if I was a woman driving alone at night. 2470 01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:31,880 This movie is about a bunch of. Cops who want to go to bad Five 2471 01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:35,400 stars. Are we? 2472 01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:37,880 Are we all not? Sleepy cops in God's control 2473 01:57:37,880 --> 01:57:41,280 car. Five stars of Lucy. 2474 01:57:41,280 --> 01:57:44,280 James God I'd love to play the hitman level of this. 2475 01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:47,000 Not bad. Is this you must? 2476 01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:50,160 Be at the hotel, right? Oh God, yeah, I would do a part. 2477 01:57:50,160 --> 01:57:52,160 About the Game Hitman the. Hitman World of Assassin 2478 01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:53,800 Georgie. Assassination Georgie. 2479 01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:56,400 I would do that, Yeah, someone says. 2480 01:57:56,520 --> 01:57:59,480 I wish. Harrison Ford was in my dreams. 2481 01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:03,280 Yeah, dreams. Exactly 5 stars. 2482 01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:06,440 Good review of Harrison Ford more than a good review of the 2483 01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:07,480 film. We all agree. 2484 01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:13,440 Objectively, there's only one. Good movie and it's The 2485 01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:16,080 Fugitive. The Fugitive. 2486 01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:18,800 Is the best movie. Because that's the best lines 2487 01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:21,920 and is never scary, only interesting and exciting. 2488 01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:23,720 Lindy W You are fucking brilliant. 2489 01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:26,160 I love this review. We didn't need any more movies 2490 01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:28,880 after The Fugitive. We didn't need any movies before 2491 01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:30,560 either. We should have raised those. 2492 01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:32,680 The Fugitive is the only good movie. 2493 01:58:32,720 --> 01:58:35,720 I wanted to call my new book. The Fugitive is the only good 2494 01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:38,600 movie, but my publisher wouldn't let me, probably because that 2495 01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:41,200 deep in the you could have Big Gump undeterred. 2496 01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:45,480 Every movie had said Brooke on a scale of 0 at 10 DVDs of the 2497 01:58:45,480 --> 01:58:49,680 Fugitive and rate The Fugitive 13 out of 10 DVDs of The 2498 01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:52,280 Fugitive. All of that movies should quit. 2499 01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:54,280 Case closed. Dabble. 2500 01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:58,800 This review was exerted from my new book Shit Actually, the 2501 01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:02,480 definitive 100% objective guide and modern cinema Available 2502 01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:05,360 October 2020 and the use of permission from the publisher. 2503 01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:08,920 You should free order it. Oh my God, that that. 2504 01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:11,080 That was like a Tim Robinson sketch. 2505 01:59:11,080 --> 01:59:15,320 Yeah, the book is actually real. As well, the book is. 2506 01:59:15,320 --> 01:59:18,280 Actually real as well. Oh holy shit, yeah. 2507 01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:21,360 OK, I'm going to have to fucking read this I. 2508 01:59:21,360 --> 01:59:25,480 Think I think that's a great one when the notes from the Peeler 2509 01:59:25,480 --> 01:59:30,800 gallery on and since Hitman was mentioned it's the PS. 2 video 2510 01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:33,160 game test gun Oh. Yeah, yeah. 2511 01:59:33,520 --> 01:59:35,280 We'll make it. If we are, we are going. 2512 01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:38,200 To make a game out of this film, it doesn't need to be APS 2 2513 01:59:38,200 --> 01:59:39,920 video game could be anything, yeah. 2514 01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:43,800 How are we going to do it? I. 2515 01:59:44,560 --> 01:59:47,160 Think if I was playing a video game of this. 2516 01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:52,320 You are AUS Marshall. You are AUS Deputy US Marshall. 2517 01:59:52,520 --> 01:59:55,640 You're not one of the main 4 from the movie because you get 2518 01:59:55,640 --> 01:59:57,760 to hang out with those occasionally in the game, right? 2519 01:59:58,200 --> 02:00:01,200 Yeah, you actually probably have to, Right. 2520 02:00:01,360 --> 02:00:04,160 Tommy Lee James is too busy, OK? And they couldn't get his voice 2521 02:00:04,160 --> 02:00:07,160 for the game. OK, So, and this is APS 2 game. 2522 02:00:08,160 --> 02:00:12,160 What you are doing is you are riding in a car with Cosmo 2523 02:00:12,160 --> 02:00:13,280 Renfro. Yes. 2524 02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:16,040 Voice to voice by Joey Pants. Yes. 2525 02:00:17,320 --> 02:00:18,800 And he is your. Guide. 2526 02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:24,600 Through your and you're a rookie US Marshall who's just been like 2527 02:00:25,200 --> 02:00:28,240 to conduct to their squad to like learn, learn your ropes. 2528 02:00:28,520 --> 02:00:33,160 And each level of the game is a different target who has like 2529 02:00:33,160 --> 02:00:36,280 either fled on their way to the fucking courthouse, they've gone 2530 02:00:36,280 --> 02:00:39,920 out or they've escaped like an arraignment or they're or like 2531 02:00:39,960 --> 02:00:42,520 they've got away from like a fucking local county gaol some 2532 02:00:42,520 --> 02:00:44,520 some bullshit like that. And it's your job. 2533 02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:47,760 So like track them down and what you do is you have to like look 2534 02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:50,080 through like you've got some documents about the people. 2535 02:00:50,080 --> 02:00:52,160 So you have to look, look down who they are and you're given 2536 02:00:52,160 --> 02:00:54,080 like an option of like various locations you can search. 2537 02:00:54,160 --> 02:00:57,440 And it's a bit like where you're like driving around and open and 2538 02:00:57,440 --> 02:00:59,840 open like plan city. But when you eventually find 2539 02:00:59,840 --> 02:01:02,800 them, it kind of turns into like an on rails kind of level. 2540 02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:05,920 And there'll be like a search, like through a fucking, I don't 2541 02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:07,760 know, a valley or something. And there'll be like scripted 2542 02:01:07,760 --> 02:01:10,880 bits that happen like a like a fucking logging van crashes and 2543 02:01:10,880 --> 02:01:13,080 logs go everywhere And you've got to jump past all the logs, 2544 02:01:13,680 --> 02:01:16,080 keep chasing the guy and oh, no, he's got away in a canoe. 2545 02:01:16,360 --> 02:01:19,400 And you've got to, you've got to like get into a canoe and like 2546 02:01:19,400 --> 02:01:22,160 chase into the Rapids and then like, oh, that kind of shit. 2547 02:01:22,320 --> 02:01:24,720 And then eventually like has like parkour in it and all that 2548 02:01:24,720 --> 02:01:27,080 kind of stuff because it's made around the turn of the century, 2549 02:01:27,080 --> 02:01:29,120 because it's obviously not because the PS2 came out much 2550 02:01:29,120 --> 02:01:31,040 later. So there's there's parkour in 2551 02:01:31,040 --> 02:01:32,120 it. And yeah. 2552 02:01:32,200 --> 02:01:32,840 And then. Right. 2553 02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:34,400 Yeah, that's exactly where it is. 2554 02:01:34,400 --> 02:01:37,440 It's a contender for AGTA game, but it's like fundamentally 2555 02:01:37,440 --> 02:01:39,000 different to it in a way that does not help. 2556 02:01:39,840 --> 02:01:41,720 Not like sleeping dogs, which fucking rules. 2557 02:01:43,240 --> 02:01:44,720 Yeah. It's like that kind of old 2558 02:01:44,720 --> 02:01:46,720 thing. And then and then you're like 2559 02:01:46,720 --> 02:01:49,600 big boss, you're like, I don't know how it works in the US 2560 02:01:49,600 --> 02:01:51,440 Marshals, but like you're fucking district manager. 2561 02:01:53,320 --> 02:01:55,120 It's like Tommy Lee Jones, but it's a guy. 2562 02:01:55,120 --> 02:01:57,200 Doing a Tommy Lee Jones impression, he's much older, 2563 02:01:57,200 --> 02:01:59,560 he's much more senior and he gives you like he gives like he 2564 02:01:59,560 --> 02:02:02,200 does like the mission briefs at the start, but Joey pants rides 2565 02:02:02,200 --> 02:02:04,640 in the car with you and he's like the Roman Bellic like and 2566 02:02:04,640 --> 02:02:07,040 he like you get a call on your phone and it's like it's like, 2567 02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:09,880 hey. Like it's it's your pal. 2568 02:02:09,880 --> 02:02:12,520 Cosmo Renfro, come and meet me in the courthouse. 2569 02:02:12,520 --> 02:02:16,680 We've got another. Runner, we got a Gopher and like 2570 02:02:16,800 --> 02:02:18,160 Jesus Christ and. It'll be a mission. 2571 02:02:18,160 --> 02:02:20,560 Set in the sewers and it'll be like, oh, God, yeah. 2572 02:02:20,640 --> 02:02:22,680 Awful. Like, it starts off like, really 2573 02:02:22,680 --> 02:02:24,560 for Zig stuff like, you have to find out whose girlfriend is. 2574 02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:26,240 And you go to the girlfriend's house and there he is. 2575 02:02:26,240 --> 02:02:28,120 And like, by the end of it, you're like, in a hot air 2576 02:02:28,120 --> 02:02:30,640 balloon chase. That's it. 2577 02:02:30,640 --> 02:02:31,880 That's my that's. My game of the. 2578 02:02:31,880 --> 02:02:35,720 Future. And every time you mess up. 2579 02:02:35,880 --> 02:02:39,000 Tommy Lee Jones sends you to get a doughnut with sprinkles on it. 2580 02:02:39,160 --> 02:02:41,440 I don't really have anything to add to that, to be honest. 2581 02:02:41,440 --> 02:02:44,000 That was quite graphic and quite entertaining. 2582 02:02:45,360 --> 02:02:48,400 Very much. I mean, I suppose. 2583 02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:50,240 The other side you. Could take is you could be the 2584 02:02:50,240 --> 02:02:53,040 Richard Kimble, you could be like the haunted and then you've 2585 02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:55,440 got to like escape from police. But that's just like being on 2586 02:02:55,440 --> 02:02:56,880 GTA with a wanted level, isn't it? 2587 02:02:57,480 --> 02:02:59,120 Yeah, yeah. I don't know how you use I. 2588 02:02:59,280 --> 02:03:00,960 Don't know how. Else you'd do it unless you'd be 2589 02:03:00,960 --> 02:03:05,200 like a really like plot driven on rails, kind of like 2590 02:03:05,200 --> 02:03:07,480 experience, like a first person kind of experience. 2591 02:03:07,480 --> 02:03:11,440 It's more like a. More like an adventure game like 2592 02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:15,320 one of those like. FMV like movie clip ones where 2593 02:03:15,320 --> 02:03:18,240 you go to like you basically just do like perfunctory puzzles 2594 02:03:18,440 --> 02:03:20,720 to unlock the story and it's just a bit rubbish. 2595 02:03:21,600 --> 02:03:25,040 It's a bit abstract like a puzzle game, like a like a 3DS 2596 02:03:25,320 --> 02:03:27,600 brain trainer type puzzle game where you're like you've got to 2597 02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:30,760 solve the word jumble and then you find and then like you solve 2598 02:03:30,760 --> 02:03:34,320 the word jumble and it's like it's the one on man's name is 2599 02:03:34,320 --> 02:03:35,600 this. And then, you know, you go to 2600 02:03:35,600 --> 02:03:39,920 the next place and it's like the fucking the hotel opens like 2601 02:03:39,920 --> 02:03:43,880 right, And it's like it's like, oh, it's like Phoenix white, 2602 02:03:44,480 --> 02:03:49,240 like objection, you know, and it's like you switch the. 2603 02:03:49,240 --> 02:03:52,080 Samples and you have to like. Prove it like and then shit. 2604 02:03:54,000 --> 02:03:55,360 That's the. That's the other option I think 2605 02:03:55,360 --> 02:03:56,760 is you could. Be like a sort of a Phoenix 2606 02:03:56,760 --> 02:03:59,320 Royce type experience, but you're you're Richard Kimble 2607 02:03:59,320 --> 02:04:01,520 trying to prove your instance. That's brilliant. 2608 02:04:01,520 --> 02:04:05,080 I think that I think. I think there's there's, there's 2609 02:04:05,080 --> 02:04:10,160 no way that this could be anything but like a fucking. 2610 02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:12,480 Really. Really good idea for a video 2611 02:04:12,480 --> 02:04:15,160 game and only a picture the people immediately because it's 2612 02:04:15,160 --> 02:04:17,600 the best film ever made and we'll have to start approaching 2613 02:04:17,600 --> 02:04:21,080 all the big all the big all the big video game houses for these 2614 02:04:21,080 --> 02:04:26,560 concepts, man yeah, no fucking I would I would love to have seen 2615 02:04:26,560 --> 02:04:28,760 like a kind of like a gun. I don't want to like talk about 2616 02:04:28,760 --> 02:04:31,920 these lock like like this point and click adventure kind of 2617 02:04:31,920 --> 02:04:34,320 thing. That would be really fucking. 2618 02:04:34,320 --> 02:04:35,080 Cool. I'm not. 2619 02:04:35,120 --> 02:04:38,640 Doing those things, it would be really good like FMV game, a big 2620 02:04:38,640 --> 02:04:42,520 full motion game because because. 2621 02:04:42,520 --> 02:04:44,360 This case wouldn't but. It would be a really fucking 2622 02:04:44,360 --> 02:04:46,960 cool like this point, like advanced track kind of thing, 2623 02:04:46,960 --> 02:04:50,200 like like the first Dune video game, you know, the first 2624 02:04:50,440 --> 02:04:53,040 before, yeah. Before we became like an RCS. 2625 02:04:53,960 --> 02:04:55,640 Yeah, yeah, which what a massive. 2626 02:04:55,640 --> 02:04:58,520 Genre switch between sequels, by the way, the fact that it was 2627 02:04:58,520 --> 02:05:01,840 called Dune 2 as well, so they literally leapt from that to 2628 02:05:01,840 --> 02:05:03,480 that. Other option is you could do 2629 02:05:03,480 --> 02:05:09,520 like an XCOM style tactical game, like a turn based tactical 2630 02:05:09,520 --> 02:05:11,920 thing, which I think would be kind of cool. 2631 02:05:11,920 --> 02:05:14,600 But then again, like these days you got things like door kickers 2632 02:05:14,600 --> 02:05:16,760 and stuff that are kind of doing that obviously, but we had 2633 02:05:16,760 --> 02:05:20,560 abstract concepts and not like Manhunter that I think could 2634 02:05:20,560 --> 02:05:23,440 birth 1000. Weird video game spin offs, 2635 02:05:23,880 --> 02:05:24,960 whatever really weird 1 you could do. 2636 02:05:24,960 --> 02:05:26,640 I have a really. Horrible idea right now. 2637 02:05:26,640 --> 02:05:27,960 Oh. Please tell me. 2638 02:05:29,680 --> 02:05:31,120 This. Made mic noises. 2639 02:05:31,240 --> 02:05:35,000 So you know how there's like tools for PlayStation so you can 2640 02:05:35,200 --> 02:05:38,280 do physical stuff? You mean like peripherals like 2641 02:05:38,280 --> 02:05:40,800 the? You. 2642 02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:43,960 Could do sort of exercise. Related stuff. 2643 02:05:44,360 --> 02:05:47,080 All right, you have to. To sort of jump. 2644 02:05:47,080 --> 02:05:50,600 Through levels, but there there's actual jumping rules and 2645 02:05:50,600 --> 02:05:52,480 all that sort of thing. OK. 2646 02:05:52,680 --> 02:05:53,960 Yeah, yes. Got you? 2647 02:05:53,960 --> 02:05:56,400 Thought you were. Talking about telly dildonics or 2648 02:05:56,400 --> 02:05:59,040 something there I was like mom picked me up upscares. 2649 02:06:02,640 --> 02:06:04,240 Yeah, that'd be cool. Yeah, like you said, the 2650 02:06:04,280 --> 02:06:07,440 simulator, you got to run away. You got to run away from, Yeah, 2651 02:06:08,440 --> 02:06:12,840 just like a fucking PlayStation. Five VR on the run simulator 2652 02:06:12,840 --> 02:06:17,080 that open world. That scene where he hits him 2653 02:06:17,080 --> 02:06:19,800 with a metal bar and you're just standing there in the living 2654 02:06:21,640 --> 02:06:23,120 room living. Room mode around. 2655 02:06:23,800 --> 02:06:27,120 Fuck yeah, it's like. Beat Sabre, but instead of just. 2656 02:06:27,120 --> 02:06:30,320 Like waving a lightsaber on jaw violently beating a Dutchman. 2657 02:06:30,840 --> 02:06:32,880 I think this. Is. 2658 02:06:33,000 --> 02:06:35,880 No, but he's but he's really asking of the violence. 2659 02:06:35,880 --> 02:06:37,880 He's like, give me Ian. Clap, Papa. 2660 02:06:41,680 --> 02:06:43,360 Oh, that's a bit of weird. Hello. 2661 02:06:43,600 --> 02:06:45,640 Fans in the Netherlands. By the way, we love you very 2662 02:06:45,640 --> 02:06:46,840 much. If you ain't Dutch, you ain't 2663 02:06:46,840 --> 02:06:51,240 much. But I once I once ratted like a 2664 02:06:51,240 --> 02:06:53,440 Dutch guy or a night out with your castle and he gans. 2665 02:06:53,440 --> 02:06:55,640 I'm I'm from the Netherlands. Cool Madigan's. 2666 02:06:55,880 --> 02:06:57,640 If you ain't Dutch, you ain't much. 2667 02:07:00,200 --> 02:07:04,880 OK pal, Cool. Sweet who do, but no I. 2668 02:07:05,560 --> 02:07:07,160 Love that. I love that but. 2669 02:07:07,440 --> 02:07:09,640 I would, but actually Losania. You fucking nailed that. 2670 02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:12,400 I would love this game. Would be a weird kind of crazy 2671 02:07:12,880 --> 02:07:15,920 VR running away from the Marshalls. 2672 02:07:16,080 --> 02:07:19,400 Almost like survival kind of game, but with like physical 2673 02:07:19,400 --> 02:07:22,640 exertion and shit that sounds really fucking cool. 2674 02:07:22,680 --> 02:07:25,520 Just about to do. Like you come home and have like 2675 02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:28,680 been out for a few beers and like your sight like put on the 2676 02:07:28,680 --> 02:07:32,200 old VR mask and just to be Richard Kimble thing. 2677 02:07:32,400 --> 02:07:35,520 And then like your significant other comes home and you've just 2678 02:07:35,680 --> 02:07:38,520 trashed the fucking house running rounded you little VR 2679 02:07:38,520 --> 02:07:41,360 shit. Just like fuck, just just is he 2680 02:07:41,360 --> 02:07:45,080 getting farty fucking into? That's brilliant. 2681 02:07:45,080 --> 02:07:47,840 I love it. You could do, you could do like, 2682 02:07:47,840 --> 02:07:50,640 you know, like those, those, those cooking games where you 2683 02:07:50,640 --> 02:07:52,360 have like a load of different recipes all at the same time. 2684 02:07:52,360 --> 02:07:54,160 You've got to run around the kitchen trying to play them all 2685 02:07:54,160 --> 02:07:55,840 up. You could do that, but like 2686 02:07:55,840 --> 02:07:57,800 you're, you're dressed as a janitor and you're just doing 2687 02:07:57,800 --> 02:08:00,160 triage and patience in the busy hotel lobby. 2688 02:08:00,520 --> 02:08:03,560 But you but you've got to do that whilst whilst also avoiding 2689 02:08:03,560 --> 02:08:05,720 protection from Julianne Moore, who's looking around and has 2690 02:08:05,720 --> 02:08:10,280 like a vision cone. I could be like just like a 2691 02:08:10,280 --> 02:08:12,640 janitor work simulator. Basically. 2692 02:08:12,640 --> 02:08:13,920 I think we're nearly the end this. 2693 02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:17,560 Is. This is this film. 2694 02:08:18,520 --> 02:08:21,240 Pro anti saye doesn't doesn't talk about it. 2695 02:08:21,520 --> 02:08:24,800 It's indifferent. I think it's it's very pro the. 2696 02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:28,760 Federal government, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's 2697 02:08:28,760 --> 02:08:32,680 pro the company. Yeah, to to quote Durant, it 2698 02:08:32,680 --> 02:08:34,960 doesn't. Care it doesn't care it. 2699 02:08:36,600 --> 02:08:37,400 Does not. Care. 2700 02:08:37,800 --> 02:08:39,160 It does not care. OK, what? 2701 02:08:39,680 --> 02:08:41,320 Are we at the end? Have we got anything else? 2702 02:08:41,320 --> 02:08:43,120 I was going to say one. I was going to say one thing, 2703 02:08:43,120 --> 02:08:45,000 which is the egregious oversell of the military. 2704 02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:46,560 Just so complex. Yes, please. 2705 02:08:46,720 --> 02:08:47,480 Yeah. OK. 2706 02:08:47,480 --> 02:08:48,520 So. In the scene where? 2707 02:08:50,040 --> 02:08:52,960 Your boy Richard Kimball is on the pay phone talking to his 2708 02:08:52,960 --> 02:08:55,280 lawyer, which gets intercepted by the US Marshals. 2709 02:08:55,640 --> 02:08:59,080 They use lots of very clever trickeries to isolate different 2710 02:08:59,080 --> 02:09:02,120 parts of the core and the bit that and that all kind of makes 2711 02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:03,960 sense to me. You can, you can isolate the 2712 02:09:03,960 --> 02:09:06,560 sound of the train probably because of the the death, like 2713 02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:09,160 the frequency that the bat and sounds coming in at, which is 2714 02:09:09,160 --> 02:09:11,600 probably very in the very high reaches, like, you know, 2715 02:09:11,600 --> 02:09:14,520 megahertz. The bit that didn't work for me 2716 02:09:14,520 --> 02:09:19,200 is they, they try and isolate the voice of the announcer over 2717 02:09:19,200 --> 02:09:21,880 the tunnelling system. Yeah, while Richard Kimball's 2718 02:09:21,880 --> 02:09:23,920 speaking and they do it enough that they can hear what he's 2719 02:09:23,920 --> 02:09:24,840 saying. Yeah. 2720 02:09:25,160 --> 02:09:28,040 And that doesn't work for me because the human voice would 2721 02:09:28,040 --> 02:09:30,920 have been at the same sort of frequency on both recordings. 2722 02:09:30,920 --> 02:09:32,840 So they wouldn't you wouldn't be able to isolate one from the 2723 02:09:32,840 --> 02:09:33,560 other. Yeah. 2724 02:09:33,720 --> 02:09:36,560 That was that was it. That was just nerdy, nerdy sound 2725 02:09:36,560 --> 02:09:38,680 engineering shit. It's super convenient. 2726 02:09:38,760 --> 02:09:39,520 Super. Convenient. 2727 02:09:39,640 --> 02:09:41,880 I meant to think of like how just like a few years later the 2728 02:09:42,760 --> 02:09:46,840 the pilot episode of the British techno thriller TV series Bugs 2729 02:09:46,840 --> 02:09:49,640 did something very similar. Bugs someone very similar with a 2730 02:09:49,640 --> 02:09:53,400 guy Bugs. Bugs mentioned when a guy gets 2731 02:09:53,520 --> 02:09:54,720 shot. Jessie pencil. 2732 02:09:54,720 --> 02:09:58,480 Mentioned but. Marcus when when when when a guy 2733 02:09:58,480 --> 02:10:04,000 gets shot at a station in in big London town and they isolate the 2734 02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:06,680 sound to work out which station it's out or something no or 2735 02:10:06,680 --> 02:10:08,600 whatever. So it's like a really, really 2736 02:10:08,600 --> 02:10:10,360 similar kind of thing. This guy on the phone or 2737 02:10:10,360 --> 02:10:12,840 somebody gets shot the isolate the sound and shit. 2738 02:10:12,840 --> 02:10:16,760 So a lot of bugs. Had so much promise in its 2739 02:10:16,760 --> 02:10:18,600 first. Episode and then it just went 2740 02:10:18,600 --> 02:10:21,000 really fucking stupid really quickly. 2741 02:10:21,000 --> 02:10:23,960 And every episode out of the Jesse birds all be like Upshot 2742 02:10:23,960 --> 02:10:25,560 and kidnapped and stuff like that. 2743 02:10:25,560 --> 02:10:27,440 There's like a multi part series. 2744 02:10:27,440 --> 02:10:31,880 About a sentient computer called Cyberax, which in the first 2745 02:10:31,880 --> 02:10:35,440 episode of its arc is like a little baby's face and it's like 2746 02:10:35,440 --> 02:10:37,440 doesn't know what it's doing. And then when it grows up and 2747 02:10:37,440 --> 02:10:39,600 becomes evil, it turns into like, it looks like some sort of 2748 02:10:39,600 --> 02:10:43,200 robotic dog avatar with like in 3D that like chomps with like a 2749 02:10:43,200 --> 02:10:44,840 cyber accident is coming for you. 2750 02:10:44,840 --> 02:10:48,000 And it's just like, wow, Biggest downgrade in history was you 2751 02:10:48,040 --> 02:10:50,480 growing up Cyber X. You were really genuinely quite 2752 02:10:50,480 --> 02:10:51,520 settling in the first one. Yeah. 2753 02:10:51,880 --> 02:10:54,240 Wow. Yeah, I I did a bugs rewatch 2754 02:10:54,240 --> 02:10:57,600 about 10 years ago, which is 20 years later than it should have 2755 02:10:57,600 --> 02:11:01,120 been. Yeah, I still think. 2756 02:11:01,120 --> 02:11:05,480 The first apparel length episode was was was would probably stand 2757 02:11:05,480 --> 02:11:07,680 up a little bit of a Washington now with a few beers in it. 2758 02:11:08,280 --> 02:11:10,440 But I mean I forget myself big gassed up and exciting for at 2759 02:11:10,440 --> 02:11:14,120 first like, but I just think about like that like ridiculous 2760 02:11:14,120 --> 02:11:18,880 like because it's ATV show set and filmed in the UK. 2761 02:11:19,320 --> 02:11:23,360 So it kind of beggars belief to have like a fucking dogfight 2762 02:11:23,360 --> 02:11:27,440 between two helicopters, but to manage this with just that 2763 02:11:27,440 --> 02:11:31,200 Australian bloke hanging out the window with his fucking 357 2764 02:11:31,200 --> 02:11:34,600 Magnum, just fucking shooting at the other helicopter until it 2765 02:11:34,600 --> 02:11:37,240 crashes us. It's all very silly. 2766 02:11:37,360 --> 02:11:39,160 Yeah. Craig McLaughlin. 2767 02:11:39,320 --> 02:11:40,680 That's that's his name, Craig McLaughlin. 2768 02:11:41,880 --> 02:11:44,400 Brilliant. I remember free slag. 2769 02:11:44,760 --> 02:11:47,680 In in the credits, he said, jumping over something on a dirt 2770 02:11:47,680 --> 02:11:49,360 bike and a SEC. That's the guy who does the 2771 02:11:49,360 --> 02:11:52,560 physical stuff because Jesse Birdsall's too busy getting put 2772 02:11:52,560 --> 02:11:54,880 inside wardrobes and kidnapped and shit. 2773 02:11:55,760 --> 02:11:57,440 Brilliant. Ed Ross. 2774 02:11:57,520 --> 02:12:00,960 Alex and Beckett from High tech crime fighting team who work for 2775 02:12:00,960 --> 02:12:03,280 the mysterious secretive Bureau 2. 2776 02:12:04,360 --> 02:12:06,800 Brilliant. I love her looks. 2777 02:12:06,880 --> 02:12:07,880 Awesome. Yeah. 2778 02:12:08,520 --> 02:12:10,000 Fuck yeah, we've. Alienated we've. 2779 02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:11,800 Alienated the German for. Something that is incredible. 2780 02:12:11,800 --> 02:12:12,840 Yeah. Yeah, it is a. 2781 02:12:13,720 --> 02:12:15,320 Fucking shock in the English build. 2782 02:12:16,120 --> 02:12:17,760 Yeah, cool. Right. 2783 02:12:18,400 --> 02:12:20,840 That's taking us to the end. A bit of an incredible episode 2784 02:12:20,840 --> 02:12:24,600 of clearing Present dudes. An episode riddled with 2785 02:12:24,600 --> 02:12:25,560 technical. Difficulties. 2786 02:12:25,560 --> 02:12:29,720 By the way, thank you all so much for five hours since. 2787 02:12:29,720 --> 02:12:33,440 We started recording. God, the very angels. 2788 02:12:33,440 --> 02:12:37,240 Themselves are against us running this show, which means 2789 02:12:37,240 --> 02:12:41,280 you need to like subscribe, smash that fucking notification 2790 02:12:41,280 --> 02:12:44,840 button, send us emails and promises of threats and 2791 02:12:44,840 --> 02:12:48,040 devotions and all that. We had shit on our e-mail 2792 02:12:48,040 --> 02:12:51,040 address, which is clear and present dudes at. 2793 02:12:51,040 --> 02:12:53,720 Gmail and just keep listening to this. 2794 02:12:53,720 --> 02:12:56,840 Show and just keep believing that one day I'll get a decent 2795 02:12:56,840 --> 02:12:59,640 laptop that won't constantly crash. 2796 02:13:00,160 --> 02:13:04,080 Indeed, next week. We have a bonus special super 2797 02:13:04,080 --> 02:13:06,840 secret episode for you that will be dropping next Monday. 2798 02:13:06,840 --> 02:13:09,720 And that's all I'm going to say. And then wow. 2799 02:13:09,880 --> 02:13:12,120 Unless you follow the substrate, in which case you already know. 2800 02:13:12,120 --> 02:13:13,640 But you don't because there's only four of you. 2801 02:13:14,360 --> 02:13:15,600 We have, we have. We have. 2802 02:13:15,600 --> 02:13:17,320 We have 4. People following the substrate. 2803 02:13:17,320 --> 02:13:19,440 Now that one's Jen. That's. 2804 02:13:19,840 --> 02:13:20,880 Brilliant though? Hell yes. 2805 02:13:23,400 --> 02:13:24,360 And then? And then? 2806 02:13:24,360 --> 02:13:26,280 The. Following week, we have our next 2807 02:13:26,280 --> 02:13:29,840 mainline episode, which is Mission Impossible Three. 2808 02:13:29,840 --> 02:13:34,200 We've skipped the crap one that came second because. 2809 02:13:34,200 --> 02:13:36,480 It is. The birthdays of Michelle 2810 02:13:36,480 --> 02:13:39,160 Monaghan and Keri Russell, who are both in that movie and they 2811 02:13:39,160 --> 02:13:41,320 share a birthday, the same birthday in their lives. 2812 02:13:41,320 --> 02:13:42,680 I think it's their 50th birthday each. 2813 02:13:42,800 --> 02:13:45,600 So that's wonderful. So yeah, we're that'll be the 2814 02:13:45,600 --> 02:13:47,320 next mainline episode in two weeks time. 2815 02:13:47,320 --> 02:13:53,720 Until then, we have been, yeah. Present. 2816 02:13:53,920 --> 02:13:57,240 Dudes. Some of us were more present 2817 02:13:57,240 --> 02:13:58,320 than others, weren't they? Said. 2818 02:13:58,360 --> 02:13:59,800 Yay. I'm sorry guys. 2819 02:14:01,640 --> 02:14:02,960 I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry. 2820 02:14:03,200 --> 02:14:05,720 I'm sorry. I'm sorry, there we go.