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Hello, April 1805. 
Napoleon is master of Europe. 

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Only the British feet stands 
before him. 

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Oceans are now battlefields. 
Quicks the word and sharp is the

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action. 
Welcome back to Clear and 

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Present Dudes, the podcast that 
does not have time for your 

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damned hobbies, Sir. 
I I'm Mike and Barn. 

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I'm joined by Roy, James O'Toole
and Sonia Dawson. 

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Hello. 
And tonight we are running like 

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smoke and okem towards the great
franchise that never was, Master

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and Commander, The far side of 
the world. 

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Lovely, made with extreme 
detention detail by Peter Weir, 

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starring Russell Crowe, Paul 
Benny and the superb cast of 

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that guys. 
Are we going to cover in great 

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details? 
We go ahead. 

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It's one of our my favourite 
films. 

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It's one of my dad's favourite 
films. 

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It's one of Sanya's favourite 
films. 

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So let me ask you Sanya, why? 
Why are we here talking about 

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Master and Commander? 
Well, we've brought up the genre

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of chase forms among thrillers 
before, and this is definitely 

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one of the chase films of all 
time. 

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It has politics, it has spies 
mentioned is that it has 

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intrigue, it has mostly guy 
stuff. 

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To be honest. 
It is definitely one of the guy 

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films of all time. 
I just enjoy it very much. 

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Rory James, what is your history
with Master and Commando? 

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You must have seen this one 
before. 

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It's a guy. 
Thought yeah, the first time I 

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watched this film was actually 
when Sonia was over here a few 

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years ago and he was like, we're
going to watch Master and 

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Commander and I'm like, I've 
heard nothing but good things 

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about this film and holy ship 
boys, this film is so good. 

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This film is incredible stuff. 
The competency porn throughout 

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it is amazing. 
Just seeing people being 

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incredibly good at the jobs as 
as British sailors. 

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It's absolutely class. 
The suspends, the action, the 

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writing, it is so cool. 
It's immersive. 

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It's an immersive, immersive 
feeling. 

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The fact that it's a cast of 
that guys mainly, rather than 

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like a tonne of big, big, big 
stars makes you feel really in 

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among the action. 
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very, very easy when like, you 
have to IMDb deep dive to remind

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yourself what a lot of the 
support and cast have actually 

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done, you know, brilliant stuff.
Someone gets aced with a knock 

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gun, which is very, very 
exciting for me. 

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And yeah, there is, there is a 
heady mix of drama, violence, 

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thrills and spills. 
And as Sonia says, it's an 

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excellent chase film, a kind of 
thriller that we're not, you 

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know, unused to doing because of
course we did Unstoppable, which

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is one of the, in my opinion, 
one of the greatest kind of 

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chase chase films of all time. 
So it's well within our 

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wheelhouse. 
And of course, Sally has wanted 

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to do with this film since day 
one of the pod. 

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This was Sallye first pick a 
year ago and it took. 

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Us initially I don't we didn't 
really think it counted but 

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we've opened the doors wide open
now now that we've just that 

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because because Stephen Matron 
is a spy in the books and the 

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word spy is also what's. 
In this room. 

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We've decided it counts. 
Technically correct? 

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Which is the best kind of 
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Yeah, and. 
You know that means though, that

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means the entire gamut of Sharp 
films is now open for it as well

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because because of Major Hogan 
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with there as well. 
Now. 

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Now this is a 70s to Nosy's 
thriller movie podcasts and 

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Napoleonic film podcast. 
And why not? 

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Why not? 
Fantastic. 

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Nothings more dad coded than 
thrillers in Napoleonic millery 

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history so and this is a dad as 
fuck podcast. 

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Everybody listening to whom 
you're listening to clear 

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It helps us out big time and 
with that I'll also say that 

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this is a spoiler podcast. 
So if you have not seen 2003's 

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Mastering Commander, The Far 
Side of the World, pause, go and

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watch it and come back. 
Because it's an incredible film 

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and I'd hate to think that all 
of our hot takes are going to 

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ruin what is an incredible film 
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So with that, let's just crack 
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Seven weeks sailing and he 
happened on our exact position. 

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Well, then perhaps he was 
looking for us. 

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Damn, he was good an act of. 
War will cripple them. 

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With basic repairs we can get 
home as we are. 

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We're not going home. 
The power of nature will 

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threaten them. 
Our enemy has. 

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More than twice our guns, more 
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And we are supposed to stop 
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Torn between fulfilling his 
duty. 

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Captain's not called Lucky Jack 
for no reason, Phantom or no 

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Lucky Jack a lover. 
And the lives of the men he 

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commands. 
Steady. 

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He must face the invincible. 
Fights like you, Jack. 

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A hunter becomes the haunted. 
Well then, there's not a moment 

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to lose. 
Cool Mastering Commander The Far

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Side of the World is a 2003 
American epic period war drama 

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film Co written, produced and 
directed by Peter Weir. 

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Set during the Napoleonic Wars. 
The films plot and characters 

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are loosely adapted from the 
novels of Patrick O'Brien in his

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Aubrey Matcher in the series 
which includes 20 completed 

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novels about Captain Jack Aubrey
and his naval career. 

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He is loosely based on Lord 
Cochrane, Bill of Dundonald and 

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also the same guy was the same 
inspiration for a Hornblower. 

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So just a fun Jack Aubrey fact. 
The film stars Russell Crowe as 

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Aubrey captain in the Royal Navy
post captain I should say Paul 

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Bettany as Doctor Steve Maturin 
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This is the second on screen 
collaboration for Crow in 

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Tibetany, who was previously Co 
starred in 2001's A Beautiful 

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Mind That's. 
Right. 

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The film is a personal project 
of 20th Century Fox executive 

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Tom Rothman, who recruited We 
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So basically one well meaning 
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movie. 
Filming took place on the open 

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sea on replica ships and in 
water tanks in Baja Studios and 

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in the Galacticos Islands, 
actually on location, which is 

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incredible. 
Incredible film, absolutely love

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it guys. 
Any final words before we get 

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into the plot? 
This is one of the films that's 

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like the easiest film to 
download as your entire 

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personality. 
This is what I'm to me, mate. 

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I yeah, yeah, yeah. 
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like 12 years in as a Royal Navy
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Now I watch this film all the 
time and it's one of those films

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where like you see stuff in it 
and get something. 

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Yoda every time it's it shares a
place with the cruel scene for 

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that films that are like set in 
a in a Royal Navy of the days of

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your most like cruel season was 
like 78 years ago now. 

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And this is like 220 years ago. 
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that's still going on today. 
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There's some yeah, really 
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And if you're a big like naval 
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the same sort of vibe from it as
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Sonia, is that correct? 
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ended up on the same career path
and someone who's both a giant 

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history nerd and a naval history
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Yeah. 
I also have a deeply personal 

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connection to this film because 
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this film was on my then still 
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We didn't have our own and I had
to literally cycle through some 

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thunderstorm to go and watch it.
So the first time watching this 

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film as a wee lad, already a 
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it's stuck with me ever since. 
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Amazing man. 
That's evocative through 

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Hardship Reborn and that's 
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Amazing. 
OK, so we'll get into it. 

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The film starts with a beautiful
shot of the open ocean and this 

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incredible ship HMS Surprise, 
and she's introduced with the 

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number of her guns and the size 
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And then we see the shimmering 
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April 18 O 5. 
Napoleon is the master of 

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Europe. 
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before him. 
The oceans are now battlefields 

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and we get to see Captain Jack 
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He is to was it Bern sink take 
as a prize the Akaron, the 

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French private which is stalking
around the the South Atlantic, 

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around South America. 
When I rewatched this film just 

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earlier today, I literally 
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prize and it's like Jesus 
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It's like, say the line part. 
Say the line Admiralty, Sink, 

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burn or take a prize. 
I think of this at least once a 

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day. 
Based. 

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I never something pisses me off.
I am sink, burn or take her a 

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prize. 
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got the sound of 8 bells, which 
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So in the Navy we have a bell 
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progress. 8 bells as the end of 
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watch and judging through 
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outside and we're in the same 
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gets light. 
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Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding 
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Each bell is half an hour, so 
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4:30 and so on. 
We see the the watch changeover 

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guys coming down the rigging, 
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rigging. 
Very cool stuff. 

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Let me cut forward. 
Judging by the bells, we soon 

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hear about 3 hours and it is 
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Midshipman Holland has the has 
the watch and he hears from a 

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starboard lookout that there's a
Bell's hood off the starboard 

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shoulder of the ship. 
He questions whether it's a 

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local fisherman. 
The lookout says it's a 

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potential reef marker. 
So navigation is in the Leuclair

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area because it's shallow water.
As I'd said, the take a sounding

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from the over the side using an 
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So they measure basically like 
how how far down the line it is 

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to to doing how deep it is. 
And they take a soap and pull 

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from like the sea bed, pull it 
back up again and, and, and, and

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get it. 
So they say it's 5 fathoms and 

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it's sanded, broken shell. 
This all kind of stuff that 

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still kind of goes on. 
It's that we have echo Sounders 

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now to do the the actual steps 
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But yeah, I've done that. 
And what happens? 

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We're into a fog bank. 
And Holland sees briefly a dark 

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shape in a fog bank and in a 
moment's hesitation doesn't 

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quite know what he's seen. 
Your second opinion from another

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young midshipman, Mr Calamy. 
And Mr Calamy reminds him that 

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he's off to the watch and he 
must make a decision about what 

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to do. 
And the question here is will he

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beat two quarters, which is they
basically call a quick draw, 

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there's a threat detected to the
ship and you get everyone closed

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up in their proper places 
because of the amount of stuff 

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they do on the ship here. 
So what happens is they do call 

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beat of quarters of out of 
precaution, which is the right 

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thing to do. 
Never be wrong for calling a 

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quick draw. 
You see like all the rush of 

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activity on the ship and it's 
brilliant. 

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You see like the doctor getting 
closed up and the surgery and 

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they're like putting sawdust on 
the deck and they're removing 

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doors and stuff and all the gun 
crews getting closed up and 

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everyone's running around and 
the shops, shooters are going 

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aloft, all that kind of stuff. 
Really, really cool sequence. 

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And it just shows you like how 
the entire ship comes alive and 

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it's more akin to like full 
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And for for a ship today that is
like just a quick draw, but it's

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the same reactions, I suppose. 
Captain comes up has a look. 

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Captain Jack Aubrey, the steady 
hand of great leadership and he 

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asks what what they saw and 
Holmes like I, I think I saw a 

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shape and he asked Mr Calm move.
Mr Calamy saw it. 

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Mr Calamy says he didn't see it.
And he says, well, you did the 

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right thing and saw said below. 
But then Captain Aubrey spots a 

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flash of gunfire from over to 
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All is the entire deck. 
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the deck. 
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sequence starts within the field
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It's incredible. 
It's amazing. 

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It's so good, man, It's so good.
So the Akron basically appears 

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raised a surprise suddenly with 
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The surprise has hit repeatedly,
causing severe damage and 

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massive casualties. 
The splinters flying everywhere.

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Just for people listening back 
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this, but the majority of 
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age of sale through naval 
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actually not sustained for like 
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explosions from grenades or 
getting shot by muskets. 

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But actually the splintering 
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Aries, get people the organs 
people would die of like impact,

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but also like infection laser, 
all that kind of stuff. 

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So pretty pretty dangerous. 
Everyone's in the deck getting 

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hit by like bits of splinter and
we see that in the films it goes

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on. 
They also hit the the hole 

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pretty loudly the ship. 
So there's the significant 

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flooding below the wall line and
you see the the the pumping 

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effort to try and get out and 
the damage control effects. 

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You hear like one of the I think
it's a Carpenter, the carpenters

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mate saying that they need to 
get oakum to plug the hole. 

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So like first stage leak 
stopping again, stuff that still

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happens today. 
Not with oakum though. 

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But yeah, really, really cool. 
And then we see like the the 

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very bloody work that's going on
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well between the surgeon and the
Lobla volley boy Padin, the big 

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giant guy. 
So yeah, pretty, pretty, pretty 

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epic. 
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the external battle as is 
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overpowered. 
Surprise, surprises not ready 

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for this fight, even though the 
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But she's been out manoeuvred 
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And as they later stayed, the 
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And even though she's had a 
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answer the helm and they get the
boots away and they make as best

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possible with the lads on board,
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ship into a fog bank in order to
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which after a lot of hours, they
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Pretty pretty epic starting 
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My guys. 
What do you what do you make of 

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it? 
Yes. 

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Splendid, yes. 
Amazing scene. 

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Absolutely great. 
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something where the heroes don't
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So you you sort of immediately 
get this feeling of this isn't 

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something that can actually 
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win. 
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commanded by Lucky Jack, you you
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up. 
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something that was culturally 
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Navy captains of the time that 
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the ability and the confidence 
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ships than they were commanding,
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that reality and how dangerous 
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Oh yeah, that's. 
Right, man, you see you see all 

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this like companies at the start
of it and you say like the like 

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you said, like the beat the 
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equivalent of like current is 
like quick draws. 

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You've told us. 
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like you said, like the 
establishment shots of the 

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cannon with all like the 
different cool names paid on 

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them, like jumping Billy and 
quick death and stuff. 

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And the film manages your 
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incredibly switched on crew with
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And they just get chained by the
usher, run like they they got 

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dog walked by him. 
And and it's it's like it 

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underlines the seriousness of 
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And it sets you up for what's 
obviously going to be like 

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eventually, like a real kind of 
successful vengeance quest kind 

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of thing against this monster 
that came out with the fog bunk,

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you know? 
Yeah, I tell you what I like 

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about it is it's the kind of 
movie that you wouldn't get made

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about a modern day surface ship 
engagement anymore because 

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sensors have got to the point 
now where you detect each other 

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too great a range for this kind 
of stuff to happen. 

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The modern day equipment to this
now is is submarine against 

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submarine combat. 
So it was a 2200 killers fight 

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each other. 
It would be like Crimson Tide 

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kind of stuff or two of that 
kind of stuff rather than 

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service of engagement. 
I also really like what what you

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said, Tanya. 
And I think there's one pivotal 

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scene where they kind of get 
into this, which is in the 

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aftermath of the bowel. 
You having like all the initial 

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reports coming in. 
I like actually that they go 

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straight into as soon as the, 
the, the gunfire starts. 

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You hear the same pullings, yell
outs to Holland, damage 

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assessment when you're when 
you're ready, as you please. 

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It's quite good. 
Like. 

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That if you don't fucking mind. 
Just at some point when you're 

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ready. 
Yeah, very different nowadays. 

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It's like my BDR priorities will
be warned. 

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Like it's my surprises the life 
of standing platform to 

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accounting for workforce like 3 
damage assessment. 

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Yeah, but there's the scene 
where they're all in the 

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wardroom and it's the they're 
having like what is now calling 

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a command planning group. 
So you get like the the command 

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team of the ship, which is 
comprises of obviously the 

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captain, the lieutenants. 
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there. 
So like a senior Warrant Officer

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and matcher in there is the 
ship's dock, the role in the in 

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the wardroom around the wardroom
table doing over what's 

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happened. 
And it's not in a CPG format. 

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But they are just like talking 
like, you know, like she 

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outgunned us and her hell must 
have been just sick because our 

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cannonballs bounced right off 
them and all that kind of stuff.

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And they're just kind of 
addressing it. 

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But that's where they kind of 
you highlight like because we 

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didn't get, because the film 
didn't show us the, the Akron 

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very clearly. 
Because you don't, you don't 

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show Jaws in the 1st 2 minutes. 
You don't show the you don't 

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show there's any morph straight 
away. 

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Like it kept a hidden like as a 
phantom. 

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Can you imagine if it did 
though, if if if like they like 

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xenomorph? 
Is it one of the first things 

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you saw with aliens and like and
and it and it just like doesn't 

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go freeze frame and like in the 
like the James Gunn suicide spot

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like some facts about it appear.
Oh. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Oh, it's like. 

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That's me. 
You're probably wondering how I 

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ended up in this situation. 
Oh, it's like the start of like 

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The Devil Wears Pride away. 
You see the Xenomorph getting up

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and brushing its teeth and 
walking to work. 

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It's actually just gotten a new 
job at this firm. 

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It's about eating people. 
Everyone before the Xenomorph 

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got I had immediately but. 
Yes, that's me. 

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I'm a Xenomorph. 
It's my it's my job to 

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impregnate the stomachs of viral
borehosts. 

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And this is my first day in New 
York City, and I'm late for the 

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I'm late for the subway. 
And if you think I'm a monster, 

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you should see my boss. 
But what I also really love is 

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that this first scene just sets 
this film up as absolutely rich 

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on detail and on realism. 
You you immediately get this 

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sense that this is a small ship.
It's cramped. 

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It's probably damp, but smells. 
You, you, you see the the shot 

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of the crew sleeping in 
hammocks. 

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I don't know if any of the 
listeners ever had the pleasure 

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of spending two months in a 
hammock. 

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I cannot recommend it. 
And even down to the the 

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bureaucratic detail while this 
the ship is already taking fire.

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Aubrey goes to to I'm assuming 
one of the most junior 

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midshipmen to please enter into 
the ship's lock engaged enemy 

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frigate at 8 bells because 
that's the most important thing 

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to him as the captain in the 
moment. 

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The the minute detail of having 
this clear for the off direction

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report. 
Since myself, this 

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accountability culture has 
existed for hundreds of years. 

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How? 
How do you think Hageman's 

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surprise would have performed at
Forst? 

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If they're, if they're 
maintaining a log in the middle 

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of an engagement pretty well, I 
think actually, you know, it's a

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possible, it's possible to do 
everything right and still not 

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win, you know, yeah, there's a 
yeah, it's pretty cool. 

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I do, I do. 
I love all that detail. 

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And it again, it's sets the 
stall up very, very early on 

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because you don't have to 
reasonably expect that the 

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average cinema go is going to 
know that this is period 

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accurate. 
And I think if you'd lost a lot 

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of that detail, maybe they might
not have noticed that, but I 

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think you would have lost 
something in the feeling of the 

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film. 
Whereas this film kind of makes 

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you feel like, yeah, you are 
transporters to the world 

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because it's so rich and so, so 
much detail. 

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You know, I think it's. 
Pretty reassures you of its 

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accuracy, even if you're not 
like knowledgeable about the 

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period, just because the way 
it's delivered and just the 

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granular detail, let's take it 
sells it. 

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It really sells. 
The fact that with confidence it

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sells and tells you this is very
accurate. 

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Just in the way it's delivered. 
The film has an absolute air of 

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charisma about it. 
Yeah, it does it again and again

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as well, like it does this for 
the whole film. 

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There is so much stuff going on 
in there that you don't even 

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even if you know about naval 
history, you don't notice it 

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until you watched the the behind
the scenes. 

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And what I found out after I 
watched this the 3rd or 4th time

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is that they actually made 
period accurate rope for this 

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film. 
I was going to get the Milds 

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because it was stood the other 
way around in. 

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The name of the fibre cottage is
like it's like right to left in 

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like modern day and it's left to
right in those days. 

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So they. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

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Insane amount of of care into 
this. 

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And even if you have stuff like 
shots where Aubrey is watching 

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through his telescope, you can 
see that the lens is uneven and 

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and stuff, the sort of 
historical things that you you 

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wouldn't have today. 
It's absolutely class and most 

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people wouldn't even think about
that. 

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That's incredible. 
You're absolutely right about 

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that. 
And when you think about how 

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many times you see shots in 
modern movies with people 

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looking through an image 
enhancer or, or said binoculars 

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or a telescope and they look 
wrong for the current day when 

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they're when they can just get 
something that's on the market 

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now and and shoot through it. 
Yeah, it's yeah, it's really, 

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really great detail, so better 
keep going otherwise we'll never

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get through it. 
After After inspecting the 

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damage, Aubrey decides to refit 
the ship as best they can at 

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sea. 
Oh, I'm going to stop again 

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straight away. 
This is what this is one of my 

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favourite conversations is like.
So the silly bastard quite 

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rightfully is saying, well we've
got enough. 

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I don't really trust the mast. 
We should be able to limp back 

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to A to a friendly port in order
to get to make necessary repairs

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before we proceed back to 
Portsmouth for a full refit. 

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And then Aubrey, because he's 
the captain of a ship and can do

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this, just has what I like to 
call a corgi commanding officers

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really good idea and goes, 
we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll refit

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at sea. 
Like that's not, that's not 

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really refitting if you're still
at sea. 

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So like, so like refitting is, 
is like the Oval hall and and 

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mass repair and just swapping 
out of stuff of of a warship. 

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And ordinarily like this ship 
would go into a port, might go 

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into dry dock to get significant
work done in the hull. 

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And they would then they would 
do stuff like careen the hull. 

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You'd have like a big loads of 
like list of jobs that you want 

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to get done in a refit period. 
And then the ship would be 

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crawling all over with with 
various tradesmen and master 

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tradesmen in their various 
parts. 

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00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,440
So you've got obviously got a 
Carpenter on board, but he'd be 

451
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,960
back to fire a bunch of other 
carpenters from shore who'd come

452
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,400
on and like do loads and loads 
of extra work and stuff. 

453
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,520
Not 1% knowledgeable about this 
stuff in the time, but like 

454
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,600
you'd have because a lot of the 
skills are also written on 

455
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,720
board. 
So like things like new sales 

456
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,520
getting made by the sale makers 
who are trained on board because

457
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,520
everyone on board has got some 
experience maintaining and then 

458
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,880
making sales because that's just
being a CL. 

459
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,720
I was like in those days. 
Nowadays ship goes in a refit 

460
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,040
and you are crawling all over 
with like various contractors 

461
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,160
from like all the different 
companies that make all the 

462
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:39,560
different bits of your ship and 
the ships company do very little

463
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,520
of the work in a refit on 
basically doing administrative 

464
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,440
tasks. 
Face officers are shore now 

465
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,200
while like the man from man 
fixes the minimum government for

466
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,800
your engine and like you know, 
the guy from tallies comes and 

467
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,680
works and you soon are and all 
that kind of stuff. 

468
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,560
Oh God, yeah. 
Yeah, So to say we're going to 

469
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,040
refit at sea and he just points 
at the chart and goes, there's a

470
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,720
shore patch here. 
It's like, all right, so go to 

471
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,880
anchor and we're just going to 
just going to use the nothing 

472
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,720
we've got on boards to try and 
fix the ship as best we can. 

473
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,640
They will have Tinder and stuff 
on boards to do repair work with

474
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,800
and they'll have loads of like 
rope and they'll have sails and 

475
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,960
stuff all stowed away that we'll
be getting out. 

476
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,560
But it's not the same. 
It's like it's not really 

477
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:16,760
refitting. 
And then the other suggestion 

478
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,000
they have is they go to the 
Brazilian rainforest and steal a

479
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,280
tree and do that. 
But again, the Tinder for like 

480
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,800
for for masts isn't just in case
you cut the tree down and that's

481
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,560
it, it's ready to go. 
You know, it takes time to like,

482
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,400
age the, the, the, the, the 
woods and have it to be a point 

483
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,320
where it's like, you know, dry 
and treated and ready to be 

484
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,160
used. 
But yeah, that may be enough. 

485
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:44,040
Yeah, So about the the dry dock 
refurb, the ship of the period 

486
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,840
would be replaced to about a 
fifth of its original how every 

487
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,160
time it went into dry dock, I 
just would obviously rots when 

488
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,920
it comes into contact with 
water. 

489
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:59,440
Another interesting time thing 
about ship refit. 

490
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,440
At the time we are just a few 
decades post the American Wharf 

491
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:08,040
independence, which had a 
significant impact on Royal Navy

492
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,560
shipbuilding because a lot of 
timber, especially for masts was

493
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,040
sourced from the United States. 
Used to be that which allowed 

494
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,160
for longer mass parts. 
And it's now or then 

495
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:25,520
predominantly from the Baltic, 
which led to shorter bits and 

496
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,880
masts being actually made from 
several different parts rather 

497
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:34,280
than one massive tree, which 
woods actually allow for sort of

498
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,280
the sort of self repair they're 
doing. 

499
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,720
There's actually I've seen this 
recently in an oil painting ship

500
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:46,880
setting its own new main masts 
using the other masts to to pull

501
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,560
out the old stump. 
So that is in theory probable. 

502
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,560
It still implies that you have 
the the material on board to do 

503
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,280
it and the the access to that, 
which which isn't the case. 

504
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,880
And as you've said, uh, just 
picking a random tree from the 

505
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,760
jungle isn't going to cut it. 
Umm. 

506
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,880
So mast wood is usually a lot 
softer than than the one you use

507
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,920
for for the hull. 
So it so it does break or bend 

508
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,280
rather than just stay in one 
piece and flip over the ship if 

509
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:19,560
if the wind gets too strong. 
And it requires 5 to 10 years of

510
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,880
dry storage before it's actually
usable. 

511
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,240
Especially in a period where you
don't have the industrial 

512
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,080
capacity to just dry wooden like
that. 

513
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,600
Amazing. 
The other thing I imagine they 

514
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,120
probably struggle with is like 
the the whole business of like 

515
00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:34,240
hauling it up there because 
they've obviously got like 

516
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,640
blocks and tackles and and they 
can Joey register for a day 

517
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,760
long. 
But they actually need to go to 

518
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,560
like crane it up and and move it
hand over hand. 

519
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,960
And you'd obviously have to like
build some kind of giant 

520
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,880
airframe or something like that 
to facilitate. 

521
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,000
It it's one of the reason the 
the Royal Navy lost so many 

522
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,240
ships after the Battle of 
Trafalgar, because it was 

523
00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:56,160
immediately followed by a by a 
bad storm and a bunch of the 

524
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,120
English ships and a bunch of the
prizes had obviously severely 

525
00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:03,480
damaged rigging and they weren't
able to properly repair those. 

526
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:08,960
Yeah, so they're 21 nil. 
So the crew who works to repair 

527
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,440
the ship while Doctor Matron 
worked hard to save the lines of

528
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,680
the council E including a young 
midshipman. 

529
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,200
This might be my MVP of the 
movie, Young Midshipman Blakely.

530
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,560
Blakely, whose arm he has to 
amputate and enable Seaman, whom

531
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,200
he gives surgery near his brains
is what this this says. 

532
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,320
So he has a suppressed fracture 
of the skull. 

533
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,600
And there's that brilliant bit 
where he's like, he's got like 

534
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,680
one guy who looks dirty as fuck,
like polishing a coin. 

535
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,240
It's. 
Just. 

536
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,000
Well, matron is like cord out a 
section of skull that he's going

537
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,080
to play it over with this coin 
and like 20 or 30 Matt Lewis 

538
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,920
were all like stood over like 
the the soft patch bit of bit of

539
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,720
open hole as they like stare 
down at him. 

540
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,840
And that one guy's like doctors 
his brains and he's like, no, 

541
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,600
no, no, these brains and 
everyone like looks a little bit

542
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,680
closer. 
And then and then and then a 

543
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,640
bloke I have to assume must be 
the buffer like because he's 

544
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,000
screaming his head off like what
you doing? 

545
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,960
You love for about get back to 
work you And then he probably 

546
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,840
like gulps in as well. 
Fantastic. 

547
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,280
He has his own. 
He has his own look. 

548
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,800
It's like they don't call and 
operate and theatre for nothing 

549
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,720
dude. 
Yeah, fantastic. 

550
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,600
Meanwhile, Aubrey learns from a 
crewman who saw Akron being 

551
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,280
built that is bigger, heavier 
and faster than surprise. 

552
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,760
And the senior officers who saw 
now consider the ship to be out 

553
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,920
of their class. 
So this is when the cobbler's 

554
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,800
mate, Joseph Nagle, comes in 
with his best mate, Will. 

555
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,880
And his best mate Will saw the 
ship being built in Boston. 

556
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,520
It's American mate, and Nagle 
knocked a model firm. 

557
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,400
So he shows them the model as 
well and they get an extra tot 

558
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,360
of rum for their trouble. 
We can't watch saving faster do 

559
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,400
today. 
I love this, I love this 

560
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,160
because, yeah, because catches 
straight away is like we'll 

561
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,160
drink wine on saluting day. 
Like he's heard this drip. 

562
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,360
He's heard these drips from him 
like 1000 times and he's just 

563
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,040
like straight back with a 
response. 

564
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,360
We'll drink wine on saluting 
day. 

565
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,000
I love the killer. 
The killer he was called. 

566
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,560
He's played by David Threlfall, 
who was People they knew is 

567
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,720
Frankie Gallagher in the British
Shameless? 

568
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,200
Incredible acting pedigree I'm 
going to dig into later on. 

569
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,560
Yeah, phenomenal actor. 
He is tremendous in this. 

570
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,600
And I have worked with some 
senior rates who are extremely 

571
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,120
similar to Killick in this. 
Just like grumble, grumble, 

572
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,600
grumble, grumble, grumble, 
answer back, answer back, answer

573
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,320
back. 
You're like, it's never enough 

574
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,160
to go over the line, so you 
can't be like, shut the fuck up.

575
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,800
But you do like have to roll 
your eyes at night. 

576
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:38,600
All right? 
Fucking hell. 

577
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,760
OK, here we go again. 
Like, yeah. 

578
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,760
I like how those two lads 
provided open source 

579
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,000
intelligence though. 
It's like the OSINT Bros but 

580
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,080
like the eh century. 
It's like it's like OSINT before

581
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,200
discord exist. 
I love it because that that just

582
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,480
Neil is he's obviously not a bad
lad. 

583
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,880
He has a bit of a wobble later 
on, as we see. 

584
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,960
But there's those two guys also 
like care about what the ship's 

585
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,360
doing and they're invested and 
bought into like what their 

586
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,480
mission is like. 
And that's partly because the 

587
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,960
Akron presents an existential 
threat to the ship, Right? 

588
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,320
But also they just like they're 
good. 

589
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,640
Madness. 
Oh, yeah, it's good. 

590
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,800
And it shows you the ingenuity 
of Jack. 

591
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:16,800
Cool, right. 
Yes. 

592
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,760
And then we see the senior 
officers obviously talking about

593
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,960
how the Akron presents too big a
ship. 

594
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,080
She's too strong. 
She's you're outgunned. 

595
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,920
And she's too fast. 
The hole's too thick. 

596
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,560
The bitch is too bad, they'll 
kill you. 

597
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,240
And. 
Smoke too hard. 

598
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,240
But the Aubrey notes that such a
ship could tip the balance of 

599
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,960
power, Napoleon's favour, if we 
were allowed to plunder the 

600
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,520
British whaling feet at will. 
And matchering drops the first 

601
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,280
of many full pars here and says 
like, compared to the surprises,

602
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,760
rather old. 
And then everyone looks at it 

603
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,880
like, you fucking want me, am I 
not correct? 

604
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,320
And then you get like the 
captain, like touching because 

605
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,840
she's bluff, lovely lines, stiff
seabird, fast, very fast in the 

606
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,640
right hands. 
No, she's not old. 

607
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,680
She's in her prime, which is 
which is fantastic because you 

608
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,560
know, like still, I think today 
a lot of ships on the fleet are 

609
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,880
pretty, pretty old now, but 
they're still pretty fucking 

610
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,040
good. 
You know, not all, but, but 

611
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,880
that's what I see. 
Some, some are better, some are 

612
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,960
better than others, But I but I 
feel the same way. 

613
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,640
I feel pretty protective if like
people sort of like talking shit

614
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,920
and just like, you know what 
actually, like this is my home. 

615
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,520
So, like, how about you fucking 
pipe down? 

616
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,720
And that is why I'm a fucking 
throbbing officer. 

617
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:36,080
Not allowed. 
Brilliant. 

618
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,800
They resumed the pursuit of the 
Akron after stopping at a 

619
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,760
Brazilian port. 
This is worth mentioning because

620
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,600
we see our only female person in
the whole film. 

621
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,480
Yeah. 
And the whole job is for sailors

622
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,000
to just like, blow kisses and 
try and trap. 

623
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,440
She like twirls her little like 
battered up parasol. 

624
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,960
It's like looking pretty just to
remind everyone that there are 

625
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,800
women there. 
Aubrey has like a glance that 

626
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,760
lasts a little bit too long just
to just to be sure that the 

627
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,560
audience knows at home. 
Look, he's not gay. 

628
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:05,720
There's just aren't any women 
around. 

629
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,480
He's not gay, but he is. 
Underwriting a letter to to 

630
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:16,840
whoever the hell Sophie is. 
But yeah, he immediately gets 

631
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,800
yelled at indirectly though. 
I love this scene. 

632
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,680
I was like. 
Oh, that woman down Styles of 

633
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,120
His Majesty's Navy. 
Not a floating bar, Jello. 

634
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,320
And it's just the the second 
Jack looks at the woman. 

635
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,600
Yeah, that's so funny. 
I love that stuff. 

636
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,320
I was I was told my wife in the 
day because we're talking about 

637
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,040
idioms in the English language. 
And obviously like a lot of 

638
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,600
idioms came from Shakespeare 
that we use today. 

639
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,320
A lot of idioms, A surprisingly 
large number of idioms come from

640
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,120
like gardening, which I wasn't 
really tracking, but actually my

641
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,480
wife feels of an incredibly long
list. 

642
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,800
And I said like there was. 
There's also similarly large 

643
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,640
amount of them come from Jack 
speak, which is to say like a 

644
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,080
lot of old naval sailing terms 
and slang and other bits and 

645
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,920
bobs. 
And the one that's relevant here

646
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,960
is people talk about shake a 
leg, as in like to get up and 

647
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,240
get about. 
But it came from when sailors 

648
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,840
were in hammocks. 
They had to like, stick their 

649
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,560
legs out to make sure that there
wasn't a woman in the hammock 

650
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,560
with them. 
And so they didn't have like, 

651
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:19,880
they trapped a prostitute ashore
like in Pompeo Guz and then and 

652
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,480
then, like, smuggler on board 
and was trying to stir away from

653
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,840
the sea. 
And so she could do her business

654
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,080
there. 
So it was like, right, shake a 

655
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,040
leg and then, like, thin them 
out because it's more floating 

656
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:35,080
bordello. 
But yeah, dirty laugh and then 

657
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,240
cool. 
The Akron surprises them yet 

658
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,360
again, however, as they sail 
from this Brazilian port and 

659
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,600
they begin a day long pursuits. 
And as Captain Jack notes, this 

660
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,560
is the second time he's done 
this. 

661
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,760
There will not be 1/3. 
And this is when they run like 

662
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,200
smoking over him to to get away 
from the Akron because they know

663
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,080
that they were in another 
peer-to-peer engagement. 

664
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,680
They would get they get tracked 
again. 

665
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,040
So they are sailing as best as 
they can away. 

666
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,080
And this is when they come up 
with one of their great bits of 

667
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:14,679
Royal Naval guile, which is the 
make the the decoy to get the 

668
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,920
the Akron off their trail, which
I think is phenomenal. 

669
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,560
They basically knocked together 
a raft and put some Lance on it 

670
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,520
and they stream it off the back 
end. 

671
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:28,320
So that and then as they send 
youngster Callamy out as his 

672
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,000
quote UN quote, first command to
to go on there, clamber up there

673
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,960
and light those lanterns on it 
at the same time. 

674
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,639
They like those lions. 
They snuff the lights out on the

675
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:40,320
back end of of the surprise. 
And then they pull him back in 

676
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,560
hand over hand. 
We caught a fish. 

677
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,840
And then and then once he's back
on board, they settle the line 

678
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,120
so that that's dragging this 
this raft away. 

679
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,600
And as soon as they've settle 
that line, they turn hard 

680
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,400
support, do a 90° turn bug out 
so that the Akron is now 

681
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,640
pursuing and still trying to 
land wrenching shots on this 

682
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,400
this raft and that they've taken
the bait and and they sail away.

683
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,440
And just to make sure that he 
does properly, Captain Jack 

684
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,240
Aubrey very gratefully offers to
take the watch, which is 

685
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:10,040
something you'd love to hear 
from your captain, but never 

686
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,240
ever, ever, ever, ever happened.
I love that sequence. 

687
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,480
I love that that kind of 
underhand Kyle is being 

688
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,560
represented in the film because 
it's that's the kind of stuff 

689
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,480
that like wins battles and wins 
warns to something that he's got

690
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,440
like a lot of a long pro 
tradition of doing underhand 

691
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,320
school degree like that. 
And we'll see some more of it in

692
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,560
the film as we go ahead. 
Cool. 

693
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,880
I missed any cool stuff that's 
happened so far. 

694
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,360
I think I think you covered 
everything. 

695
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,160
I mean, I could go on a tangent 
here about how Akron is 

696
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,440
basically a justified uses 
constitution. 

697
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,800
Justified. 
Fucking hell. 

698
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,080
Well, all the show has to 
maximum. 

699
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,280
Yes, I mean they made a fringe. 
I think that counts as justified

700
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,760
for a ship. 
We, we are fight. 

701
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:55,720
About yeah so the the films 
Akron is heavily based on the 

702
00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:59,080
USS Constitution of the the US 
Navy off the same period which 

703
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,920
is one of six of class of 
frigates which were the first 

704
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,280
ships the United States Navy 
ever built themselves for an 

705
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,080
actual proper Navy. 
These are very heavy ships for 

706
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:17,680
frigates with AI think is a pair
built complement of 44 guns and 

707
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,560
then every captain just cramming
additional ones on them because 

708
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,800
they're bloody well could. 
And they are built from, I think

709
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:29,000
it's American Red oak, which is 
a particularly hardwood, which 

710
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:34,360
actually led to that described 
sequence earlier of lower 

711
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,360
calibre shots bouncing off the 
hull, which gave you as 

712
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,760
Constitution the nickname of Old
Ironsides. 

713
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:46,520
Eventually those ships have 
become somewhat problematic 

714
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,680
during the later war, 1812. 
And there is actually somewhere,

715
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:55,040
I don't remember the exact exact
wording, but there is a Nelson 

716
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:59,200
quote regarding one of them 
actually as seeing them as a 

717
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,120
potential source of trouble for 
the Royal Navy in years to come 

718
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,440
should there ever be war with 
the United States. 

719
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,280
Because he immediately 
recognised how capable these 

720
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,080
vessels were. 
And eventually, and this is in 

721
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,640
part because Royal Navy frigates
tended a lot of the time to be 

722
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:22,480
stolen smaller French frigates 
as the surprise in this case 

723
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,720
actually is as well. 
Actually English captains were 

724
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,840
during the War of 1812, later 
banned from doing single ship 

725
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,000
engagement with these large 
American frigates. 

726
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,200
So there's a lot of actually 
existing historical contacts 

727
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,880
that goes into these two ships 
and this the whole film and the 

728
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,840
the ongoing engagement between 
the two. 

729
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,360
That's brilliant. 
Oh, thank you for that Sonia. 

730
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,040
That's great. 
The the only that I have missed 

731
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,640
I've just sort of on which was 
during the the pursuit of the 

732
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,400
Akron, there's a short scene 
where the captain is helping the

733
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,400
young midshipmen take a Mer pass
or a Meridian pass with their 

734
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,120
their sextants, which. 
Is bollocks luxurious accident? 

735
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,840
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you, 
yeah, you can put like clips 

736
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,360
around the other goal, Like look
at your extent. 

737
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:12,600
I love that. 
But he's explaining like what 

738
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,960
what is happening is they're 
using the the marine sections to

739
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,680
to take an angle of when. 
Well, they set the angle really,

740
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,480
really high and they're waiting 
for the sun in the horizon glass

741
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,360
to actually get to the angle 
they've set, which is like the 

742
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,440
90° and they hold it flat. 
So you have like the, the 

743
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,480
horizon on one glass and you 
have like the, the zenith of 

744
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,280
where the sun's going to be on 
the other glass. 

745
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,320
And you're waiting for the sun 
to hit it when you take it. 

746
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,920
And basically you watch, you're 
watching for the sun to going up

747
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,440
and reach its top and it'll 
pause there for a second, then 

748
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,640
it'll start going back down 
again straight away. 

749
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,880
And you're waiting for the sun 
to reach its height angle of the

750
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,120
day. 
And that's when you mark when 

751
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,720
the noon time is. 
And it's part of what you can do

752
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,640
for when you're doing Astro 
navigation to determine kind of 

753
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,000
where you are. 
So there's, there's kind of two 

754
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,600
big things you can take like 
star sites in morning and 

755
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,680
evening twilight. 
And that's basically like the 

756
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,480
same as you, the same way you 
would take a visual fix. 

757
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,120
You'd have multiple points of 
reference and each interval, one

758
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,600
of these is like measured down 
to the second when you took the 

759
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,200
observation and you pull out 
together to make a big pool of 

760
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,760
errors of like overlapping 
circles and bang yours somewhere

761
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,040
in the middle of it. 
But the mirror passes. 

762
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,160
You have to kind of, and that 
works basically by going like 

763
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,840
you vaguely know where you are. 
You take elemental observations 

764
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,800
and they tell you how far away 
from where you think you are, 

765
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,320
you are. 
That's how it works. 

766
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,520
It's really weird. 
So you have to kind of know 

767
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,000
where you are already to know, 
to refine where you are. 

768
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,640
The same thing goes with the 
with the Mer pass, except 

769
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,880
because you're only observing 
one thing, you only really get 

770
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,200
latitudinally where you are 
because that's, that's the only 

771
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:41,080
thing that changes around the 
world is like what time of day 

772
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,640
noon is at. 
So by doing that, you, you get 

773
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,440
an idea where you are on one of 
those planes and you can kind of

774
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,000
figure out where you're going. 
It's a, it's a way of like 

775
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,880
checking along your journey, 
like roughly where you are. 

776
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,080
So that's what they're doing. 
It's been a long time since 

777
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,760
Astro navigation. 
So I've got any of that wrong. 

778
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,200
I'm gating away for that in the 
in the comments. 

779
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:02,720
Well, I take it like 10 years 
ago. 

780
00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:05,560
I haven't really done it since. 
So, so yeah, well, I practise, 

781
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,720
but yeah, so that's what that's 
what they're doing that secrets.

782
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,840
And what I like about it is that
obviously like we're watching 

783
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,880
thriller movie. 
They are in the middle of a hot 

784
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,320
chase. 
They are going to they've 

785
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,040
already been engaged once and 
they're going to go and kill 

786
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,680
them again. 
But because it's the Royal 

787
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,960
friggin Navy, we haven't stopped
training our guys. 

788
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,440
We haven't stopped coaching. 
I'm stopped mentoring. 

789
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,320
We haven't stopped like trying 
to like. 

790
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,000
You know, better ourselves to 
say that it's like it hasn't 

791
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,800
like, oh, jobs on guys, we 
haven't got time for you midship

792
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,320
anymore. 
Real jobs on. 

793
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,920
It's like, no, we're still going
to do. 

794
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,840
We're still going to do the the 
the day-to-day business of like 

795
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,520
navigating the ship and teaching
you how to do it because, you 

796
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,640
know, train your relief. 
You're not indispensable. 

797
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,960
The person someone's going to 
replace you eventually and you 

798
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,080
need to train them up. 
Then Nelson touch want good 

799
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,480
jazz. 
So that's that's something else 

800
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,440
I really liked. 
Cool as they approach Cape Horn 

801
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,920
the surprise is closely 
following the Akron, but they 

802
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,720
lose sight of the Akron as blue 
ships are bringing sails or 

803
00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:04,760
rising winds. 
This bit's pretty epic so keep 

804
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,000
on us apartments of America and 
they are chasing the Akron and 

805
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,120
it's really really stormy. 
It's a very dangerous part of of

806
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,800
the world. 
You still kind of shudder a 

807
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,320
little bit when we're going 
around the horn because it's 

808
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:15,680
like pretty pretty horrible 
seas. 

809
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,440
And in this case the mizzen 
mast, the mizzen top mast story 

810
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,880
breaks falls into the sea and 
open up better rigging is Will 

811
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,080
Warley, who is the the the 
blonde sailor who his pals with 

812
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,600
Joseph Nagle who saw the acronym
build. 

813
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,160
So we've got established 
friendship between Nagle and 

814
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,720
Will. 
What is happening now is that 

815
00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:37,360
bit of mast and or it's rigging 
still attached to the ship. 

816
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,120
It's dragging in the sea behind 
them and they are still trying 

817
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,760
to catch and chase the Akron, 
but also they're still trying to

818
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,640
stay afloat. 
And what's happening is this big

819
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,720
load of of rigging is acting 
like, as they say in the film, 

820
00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:52,040
acting like a sea anchor or a 
drug is dragging the ship back. 

821
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,440
It's putting a lot of extra 
pressure on the remaining bit of

822
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,080
mast. 
It's also dragging the ship 

823
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,080
underwater and affecting its 
stability. 

824
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,320
So as they say, they used to cut
it free. 

825
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,800
Otherwise, you know, they're 
going to really, really stroll, 

826
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,040
especially as they're going 
through like heavy, heavy seas. 

827
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,560
What tends to happen if you if 
you want maintaining speed 

828
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,400
directionally, you'll become 
four foul of the overwhelming 

829
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,200
conditions probably go beam on 
to sea and capsize brooch and 

830
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,880
that's that's like the most 
interesting that can happen. 

831
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,200
So they're really really worried
about that. 

832
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:26,760
And so captain Aubrey with 
Nagel, the guy's best friend is 

833
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,280
there the back end shopping 
through these lines to to set 

834
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,760
him free. 
And this is another really good 

835
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:36,560
example of times where this 
would be emergency stations in 

836
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,680
in the modern Navy, probably 
equivalent is where the ship is 

837
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,560
a life sustaining platform takes
priority of the life of one 

838
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,600
sailor. 
And it's pretty horrible choice,

839
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,360
but they make it and they do it.
It's probably saying at this 

840
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,720
point in the film as well that 
this film has actually got quite

841
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,280
a base of CG in it, but it 
doesn't look like it. 

842
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,920
This is some of the best CG work
I think I've seen in any film 

843
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,480
ever. 
And it's made in 2003 and you 

844
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,600
can't tell. 
I don't think they filmed a lot 

845
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,000
of it in the open ocean. 
They filmed a lot of it in tanks

846
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,440
though. 
And I can't, I can barely tell 

847
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,840
where there's ACG shot on this 
film. 

848
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,200
There's only like 2. 
I think I can identify one where

849
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,800
you got a really good shot of 
like Blakely's fake arm all like

850
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,440
the stump, the stump which is 
which is managers and there's a 

851
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,600
one of the backdrop on the 
Galapagos later on. 

852
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:22,600
Yeah. 
Where there's a definite shot 

853
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,840
that looks a bit dodgy but 
everything else looks. 

854
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,200
All this stuff at sea looks 
amazing. 

855
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,600
Yeah, I, I think half of the, 
the acronym isn't actually real 

856
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,080
as well. 
So they they've build a 

857
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,240
basically 1 to 1 hull and parts 
of the lower rigging. 

858
00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:41,440
But everything above the main 
salt I think is CG, which is 

859
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,600
absolutely amazing because you 
don't notice at all. 

860
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,960
Yeah. 
Yeah, I wouldn't have thought of

861
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,520
that unless you've mentioned it.
I think there's a bit where they

862
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,360
added a lot of smoking towards 
the end, but apart from that, 

863
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,800
like the film looks incredible. 
Yeah. 

864
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,040
Yeah, really, really well, 
really well done. 

865
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,360
And then this sequence for me is
like probably the the most 

866
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,600
impressive. 
Just like that big, huge boiling

867
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,120
sea. 
It looks treacherous. 

868
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,920
It looks horrifying. 
Yeah, like that's, they do an 

869
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,360
incredibly good job of making 
the sea one of the one of the 

870
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,040
villains, the peace in a way, 
you know. 

871
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,840
Yeah, that's it. 
Yeah, the heroes of the men, the

872
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,240
heroes of the ships. 
And there's only one enemy, the 

873
00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:18,920
sea. 
It's a cruel sea for surely 

874
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,320
which Madison has only made more
cruel. 

875
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,960
Yeah. 
And Stasardly French. 

876
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,120
Yeah. 
And the French different, 

877
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,560
different level, different 
ships. 

878
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:31,480
Cool. 
So also, like, probably one of 

879
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,240
the emotional peaks of the film,
I guess. 

880
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,120
And the score here is incredible
as well. 

881
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,720
So we haven't we haven't talked 
about the soundtrack yet, but 

882
00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:42,240
this this is an absolutely 
fantastic soundtrack. 

883
00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:45,080
There's there's some original 
music composed with the film. 

884
00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:47,520
There's also a lot of great all 
the needle drops. 

885
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,320
These are this is Ray. 
So during this sequence, it's 

886
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:55,320
rayful Williams Fantasia theme 
by Thomas Tallis and man, like 

887
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,480
it's just perfect for me. 
That is the piece of music now I

888
00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:59,800
think of when I look at the 
scene. 

889
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,040
Like it just it just is just so 
moving and it's just like this 

890
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,960
huge, lumbering, mysterious epic
thing. 

891
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,360
It's big thick tones washing 
over each other. 

892
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,640
Just so dramatic like Sturman 
Drang. 

893
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,440
Absolutely phenomenal and great 
soundtrack for this one. 

894
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,720
We haven't talked about the 
violin cello stuff yet either, 

895
00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:18,680
have we? 
No, that's so cool. 

896
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,880
That's awesome, man. 
There's been one of those. 

897
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,160
There's been one of those as 
well. 

898
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,480
So it's during the refit 
sequence. 

899
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,200
I think it's when we get the 
first jam session between 

900
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,760
Captain Aubrey and Steve Maturin
and they they play a little bit 

901
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,480
of Mozart, don't they? 
Which again, very jaunty, very 

902
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,000
fun. 
Just as they're wing and care 

903
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,480
from their from their initial 
refit. 

904
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,000
Very, very nice. 
Cool. 

905
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:44,120
Never a tune you could dance to.
Skype Skype, Skype, Skype again.

906
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,280
Got them officers and their 
goddamn hobbies. 

907
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,960
Yeah, So Aubrey then, so this 
then tells his officers he's 

908
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,600
figured out where the Akron is 
going to be. 

909
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,120
And this is I mentioned in our 
chat earlier on that I had a 

910
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,480
conspiracy theory. 
My conspiracy theory is this. 

911
00:45:57,720 --> 00:45:59,880
So Aubrey tells his officers 
that he's heading for the 

912
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,280
Galapagos Islands during one of 
their their dinners in the 

913
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,640
boardroom. 
I've also missed out. 

914
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,880
We haven't talked about yet some
of their other dinners in the 

915
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,280
boardroom before we talk about 
that. 

916
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,000
So there's been one of those as 
well, I think already by this 

917
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,320
point, which is the chat about 
Nelson. 

918
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,800
I think it's I think that's 
celebrating after decoying the 

919
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,920
Akron away on the first time. 
And we have, like the first, 

920
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,320
like, captain holding court in 
the wardroom. 

921
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,680
It's worth pointing out in naval
tradition that the captain is 

922
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,000
all a member of the wardroom. 
He has his own grey cabin, and 

923
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,840
that's where he normally takes 
the majority of his meals. 

924
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,120
He's invited into the wardroom 
on the request of the first 

925
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,800
Lieutenant for executive 
officers. 

926
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,320
It's to him nowadays who is the 
president of the wardroom. 

927
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,000
And the same was still true in 
those days. 

928
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,400
So the captain would have come 
in as a guest into the wardroom 

929
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,640
for a special meal when they 
would put on like a mess dinner 

930
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,480
for it. 
This isn't like a nightly 

931
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:45,240
occurrence. 
He's not there. 

932
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,480
I'd taken all these meals every 
day. 

933
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,400
So this is like a special 
occasion and he's in there and 

934
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:54,040
he's holding court about they're
talking about Nelson and his 

935
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,560
great victories of his past and 
he's talking about how he's 

936
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,080
dined with Nelson a couple of on
a couple of occasions and you 

937
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,160
get like the proper like 
everyone's everyone's but 

938
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,440
stalking a little bit to to to 
get to captured Aubrey because 

939
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,640
they love him. 
Go like, Oh, it might be 

940
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:07,800
trouble. 
You'll serve for an. 

941
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,560
Anecdote. 
I love that bit. 

942
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,680
Sake may have a crumb of 
anecdotal evidence about about 

943
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,640
the man himself, Nelson. 
So we get all that stuff and 

944
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,080
that's great. 
And we're going to, I think 

945
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:20,760
we're definitely going to cover 
pretty much that whole 

946
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,920
conversation in quotes. 
So I'm not, I'm not labelling it

947
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,600
here. 
But yeah, so we get those. 

948
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,080
They're great. 
And we have another one where, 

949
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,680
again, they are now talking 
about where they're going to go 

950
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,760
next. 
The captain calls for the 

951
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,320
Killick and the Killick's 
already in the room. 

952
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,040
This is another example of like,
see you rate grumbling. 

953
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,360
It's like killer class. 
I'm already here. 

954
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,320
Right. 
All right, man. 

955
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,760
Jesus Christ. 
Yeah. 

956
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,440
He's like, so this is where 
we're going to go. 

957
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,120
And he presents this pudding and
then all the officers all 

958
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,680
crowned around it and look over 
it and they go, that's the 

959
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,240
Galapagos Islands. 
As if they haven't heard the two

960
00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:56,760
deck buzz from the killer. 
Who's good? 

961
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,720
He's got a Bernie Potter that's 
a shape, but the Galapagos 

962
00:47:59,720 --> 00:48:05,640
Islands, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I guarantee you they've 

963
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,800
definitely moaned about having 
to make that pudding already on 

964
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,600
board. 
And it's like the talk of like 2

965
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,240
deck and like everyone, all the 
all the officers have like heard

966
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:14,680
it through other people. 
Oh, why you got maybe going to 

967
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,520
put into the we're all good at 
the Galapagos Islands, lads. 

968
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,240
Have you heard? 
And then suddenly it's like, 

969
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,600
look at this. 
Oh, it's the Galapagos Islands. 

970
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,480
Fantastic. 
And he's got a little model 

971
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:24,680
Akron there, and he has that 
whole bit. 

972
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,360
He's like the Akron for me. 
They need to. 

973
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,200
Fantastic, fantastic. 
Love that. 

974
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,120
Yes, still going there. 
Because that is where Britain's 

975
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,800
winning feet may be found. 
And the winning feet has been 

976
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,320
identified as a target of the 
Akron. 

977
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,600
Matron later tells Aubrey that 
the Galapagos are legendary to 

978
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,040
naturalists such as himself, and
Aubrey promises the doctor that 

979
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,800
they'll be granted several days 
of exploring the islands. 

980
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,560
I think this was a foolish 
promise to make given, given the

981
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,440
urgency of their mission. 
But his heart's in the right 

982
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,320
place. 
But yeah, this, this, this goes 

983
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,320
on to annoy me. 
Aubrey then tells his officers 

984
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:55,920
they're heading there, Da, da, 
da. 

985
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,760
And then when the surprise 
reaches the islands, we have a 

986
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:06,440
loving sequence here with, with 
the the bit of bark in G And 

987
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,680
they're everyone's really 
excited to see the islands. 

988
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:09,920
They're all observing the 
wildlife. 

989
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,720
They're looking at the iguanas. 
They're looking at the 

990
00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:14,000
flightless birds. 
And they're like, oh, they're 

991
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,000
disgusting, they're covered in 
warts. 

992
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,840
It's amazing. 
They have travelled like the far

993
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,600
side of the world and they're 
looking at these envious and 

994
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,320
features. 
Oh fucking gross. 

995
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,360
Killer with hammers. 
I like Mr Bowen, who's like a. 

996
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,120
Woman anywhere. 
Not a woman, not a woman to be 

997
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,160
found. 
I love Mr Bowen is like those 

998
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,880
turtles will make good eating. 
What if that is I got. 

999
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:38,800
I fucking kill you. 
Leave it. 

1000
00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:40,880
God. 
Fantastic. 

1001
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,160
Yeah. 
So when they reach the island, 

1002
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:47,000
they see a small whaling boat. 
I say whalers in like the little

1003
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,840
sea boat is the shape of. 
It's called a whaler and there's

1004
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,520
some surviving crew of the 
albatross or whaling ship burned

1005
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,880
by a big black 3 master and 
everyone knows it instantly to 

1006
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,880
be the Jack Sparrow. 
You have heard of the Jack? 

1007
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,520
That is the set stage set for 
Jack on Jack Violence. 

1008
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,120
Just two jacks fighting the 
gala. 

1009
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,640
Call that a Jack off man. 
Yeah, so Jack has all hands to 

1010
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,960
make sale and pursue the Akron 
and this upsets Dr Matron who 

1011
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,640
protests that Aubrey is breaking
his word so him explore which 

1012
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,000
point the capture applies. 
We don't have time filled and 

1013
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,120
hobbies. 
I am. 

1014
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,280
I am with Aubrey on this, mate. 
This is not a science 

1015
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:27,840
opposition. 
This is a warship we've got, 

1016
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,720
we've got to stop to do. 
Really pisses me off and I feel 

1017
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:32,920
like she. 
Said we could stop it for ice 

1018
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:38,080
cream and spit heads. 
I don't want to intercept the 

1019
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,640
Russians in the channel again. 
You promised. 

1020
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,520
Because he has like, because 
yeah, he goes into a full big 

1021
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:44,760
whinge. 
I understand, right? 

1022
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,280
There's, there's, there's almost
almost two sides to this. 

1023
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,400
Because we, we find out that 
that Jack is massively exceeded 

1024
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,240
his orders and going this far 
down absolutely shouldn't have 

1025
00:50:55,240 --> 00:50:57,600
gone this far. 
He, he's bound geographically to

1026
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,880
a certain area of virtual 
possibility and he has left it. 

1027
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,080
So fair enough. 
That's not matching this 

1028
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,920
complaint, though. 
Matching complaint is like, 

1029
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,880
Daddy, you promised we could 
look at the we could go to the 

1030
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:11,160
zoo and that's, it's like, get 
the programme, dude. 

1031
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,280
We're here to kill French 
people, not look at iguanas. 

1032
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,600
I want listen, Doctor. 
Frogs. 

1033
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,120
We have frogs at home, Doctor. 
Listen, Doctor, I will turn this

1034
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,680
ship around and nobody's going a
fucking Disneyland. 

1035
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,640
I've had a day here with you. 
Now look at your iPad and shut 

1036
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,120
up. 
You didn't even do your homework

1037
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,760
before we left. 
But then he's just a big wind. 

1038
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,840
You're like, Oh well, you see, 
like I rather sympathise with 

1039
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,680
mutineers. 
Actually, I think it's and it's 

1040
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,200
like people should be oppressed 
and people should be taken out 

1041
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,360
of their chose occupations and 
said to see. 

1042
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,080
And it's like, yes, but you 
weren't, were you Steven? 

1043
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,640
Like like you're a volunteer 
here. 

1044
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:51,600
No impressed gangs the doctor 
imagine imagine the ones like 

1045
00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:54,640
oh, you're a drunk and A and a 
Tavern a shore here's a. 

1046
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,240
Scalpel. 
Like it's like you're being 

1047
00:51:58,240 --> 00:51:59,920
pressed down. 
Oh, no, you're being pressed 

1048
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:01,000
down. 
Dinner was probably one of the 

1049
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,760
best paid rules on the ship. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1050
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,240
Take that motherfucker, you 
know? 

1051
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,200
Yeah, I understand press ganging
obviously wrong. 

1052
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,120
It's basically sending people to
prison into the into the 

1053
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:17,000
military service. 
However, you know, compared to 

1054
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,320
like poverty in the day, like 
you know, if you, if you were 

1055
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,160
put into the Navy, you're like, 
well, you're, you're getting 

1056
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,720
fed, you're getting paid a wage.
You get a little bit of rum 

1057
00:52:27,720 --> 00:52:32,440
every day until 31st of July. 
19th you basically have it 24/7 

1058
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,600
and you're being paid for it 
rather than being shipped away 

1059
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,880
to Australia for stealing one 
piece of bread or being left to 

1060
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,280
rot in a prison. 
Yeah. 

1061
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,320
Literally been arbitrarily 
executed for things that like 

1062
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,920
minor misdemeanours that. 
We get, yeah. 

1063
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,640
You you looked at your land 
owners chicken Funnily. 

1064
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,520
We're going to hang you now. 
I mean, sure. 

1065
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,160
There's I think we should bring 
us back. 

1066
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,880
I think we should just make 
drunk people wake up on frigates

1067
00:52:55,880 --> 00:53:00,560
20 miles from shore. 
You know, some nations do still 

1068
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,760
exercise conscription into the 
into their navies. 

1069
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,880
I did a Botic deployment in 2021
and the Estonians had conscripts

1070
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:12,640
on board. 
Yeah, so I didn't get to I did 

1071
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,560
go on board. 
I spent a bit of time talking to

1072
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,160
the rec so but I didn't really 
meet any of the conscripts. 

1073
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:21,280
But yeah, interesting isn't it 
how we how we do things 

1074
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:26,840
differently around Europe. 
So we'll get back to this this 

1075
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,600
this dissenting talk from mature
in a bit after we've had some 

1076
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:34,600
some civil disobedience on board
immature in shift it, Yeah. 

1077
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:40,680
Got him his writing. 
Is this fire? 

1078
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,800
Mike, I have a question. 
Yeah. 

1079
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,480
Do you think this exceeding his 
orders months ago thing is an 

1080
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:53,200
ongoing theme with Jack? 
Because it would, and if I 

1081
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,280
understand it right, and this is
where where his rank clashes 

1082
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,680
with the film title as well, it 
would be a bit odd for a post 

1083
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,240
captain to be in command of a 28
gun frigate. 

1084
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,880
I, I think it must be like, I 
think he's known as a bit of a 

1085
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,800
bar lad. 
It's my, it's my, it's my read 

1086
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,640
on it is that he's really, 
really good. 

1087
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,600
But he's not going to make the I
haven't read all the books, but 

1088
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,080
like he's not going to make the 
top super tier of the Navy 

1089
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,240
because he's he's not, he's not 
a rule a buyer. 

1090
00:54:25,240 --> 00:54:28,200
He's a he's a real breaker. 
Again, like he's he's roughly 

1091
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:32,400
based on Lord Cochran of Don 
Donald, who left towards the end

1092
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,560
of his career and basically 
posted up into South America and

1093
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,320
basically created the Chilean 
Navy and like helped them make 

1094
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,800
various South American navies 
and was really influential and 

1095
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,640
spreading that, that good 
message to the world. 

1096
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,800
But he wasn't like he wasn't 
part of I mean, he's a Lord, 

1097
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,160
right? 
But but in terms of like the 

1098
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,640
approved list of the 
establishment, yeah, he wasn't 

1099
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,800
he wasn't on the in club as. 
It was something that irked me 

1100
00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:00,040
earlier when I looked at the I 
think it wasn't Disney. 

1101
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,640
The the summary of of the film 
was describing him as a young 

1102
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,160
captain, which he definitely 
isn't. 

1103
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,920
Surprise is barely classed as a 
frigate. 

1104
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,400
She's more like an oversized 
Sloop of war and he's definitely

1105
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:17,600
not young for that. 
You'd. 

1106
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,920
I'd be old for that. 
You also captain, you also 

1107
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,760
highlight that he's been in over
20 years because he you, you see

1108
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:32,320
that script on there and it has 
like JA 1785 and it's like Jack 

1109
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:33,760
Aubrey wrote that, but it was a 
big Shipman. 

1110
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,960
But it says there's enough blood
in the wood on here that he 

1111
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:40,400
could be a distant relation. 
What shit could you imagine that

1112
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,520
like like nowadays there's 
enough blood on this GRP? 

1113
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,360
That I identify this vessel as 
my cousin, and God help anyone 

1114
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,920
who upsets my cousin. 
So some days into their voyage 

1115
00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:58,200
from the Galapagos, surprise is 
be calmed and the dead heat is 

1116
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,240
starting to affect the crew to 
the point where they believe 

1117
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,040
there's a bad woman on board or 
a Jonah. 

1118
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,720
They sing out Midshipman Holland
as said Jonah, citing that the 

1119
00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:10,960
Akron first appeared on his 
watch and that he was scaling 

1120
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,280
the mizzen when it broke as he 
was heading on Cape Horn. 

1121
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,760
And the focus of all this Aya is
a man named Seaman Nagle, Joseph

1122
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,000
Nagle, who knocked up the model,
the carpenters mate, and he is 

1123
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,200
disrespectful but insubordinate 
towards Holland. 

1124
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,760
So Holland is, I think I have to
have a little chat here about 

1125
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,160
Holland. 
So Holland is probably the most 

1126
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,280
tragic character I think in this
film. 

1127
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:38,560
He's not by any means a bad guy.
They even he has a few chats 

1128
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,920
with with Aubrey. 
Aubrey even says like the 

1129
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,000
knowledge is there, you're a 
good sailor, you know what 

1130
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,920
you're doing. 
He just fundamentally lacks 

1131
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:50,360
confidence and A and a bit of 
backbone and he falls foul. 

1132
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,800
I think of a of a really easy 
thing for for a new officer to 

1133
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,240
do, which is to get too friendly
with the people under their 

1134
00:56:56,240 --> 00:57:00,800
charge, which is awkward because
as the film states, you can't be

1135
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,160
like a friend, like quote 
unquote, full on friends to 

1136
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,000
them. 
But by no means I used to be a 

1137
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,040
tyrant either. 
And I put you in a really weird 

1138
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,000
space where like you have to 
remember there's a professional 

1139
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,320
boundary. 
And I think we're probably more 

1140
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,240
able to deal with that in the 
current day where this the 

1141
00:57:15,240 --> 00:57:19,840
bounds between stations and life
are, are, are like basically 

1142
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,400
kind of gone. 
And that we, we, we don't, we 

1143
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,320
don't live in that society so 
much anymore. 

1144
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,080
And that there are the hyper 
elite really knows and everybody

1145
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:32,160
else, right. 
So, and everyone is everybody 

1146
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,040
else by sheer didn't that we 
have jobs. 

1147
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,120
OK, So it's, it is based more or
less on. 

1148
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,920
So the whole rank structure, 
which some people might say is, 

1149
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:44,360
is outdated, is based basically 
on administrative functions 

1150
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,160
primarily. 
And, and a lot of the prestige 

1151
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,520
and the class of, of, of holding
rank is, is now kind of gone. 

1152
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,400
And it is basically time based 
skills based and based around 

1153
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,240
the administrative necessity of,
of having to have a divisional 

1154
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,320
system that, that that makes the
name work the way it works. 

1155
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,680
Right. 
That is all to say that in those

1156
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,480
days when Holland's interacting 
like he's supposed to occupy a 

1157
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,360
completely different social 
class from, from the, the lads 

1158
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,960
on board. 
And when Aubrey says you can't 

1159
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,400
be too friendly with them, they 
will come to despise you for it 

1160
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,440
and see you as weak. 
It's because in those days, and 

1161
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,880
this actually still went on up 
until like the Second World War,

1162
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,760
because there's an officer's 
pocketbook that is like widely 

1163
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,760
available. 
You can buy online from by 1940 

1164
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:29,720
odd, which explains like the the
average junior age who was meant

1165
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,840
to come from in these days, not 
so much totally not these days, 

1166
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,840
but back in those days not meant
to be educated, probably 

1167
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:41,240
speaking like oftentimes 
illiterate and and occupying of 

1168
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:42,320
a completely different social 
class. 

1169
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,560
The kind of people who would get
press ganged because they didn't

1170
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,680
have homes or jobs or a standing
society. 

1171
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,560
You could just be put off the 
streets without any any 

1172
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,880
consequence. 
OK, so if you are, they are 

1173
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,920
meant to be viewing officers as 
a better class of person than 

1174
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,440
them. 
They are meant to understand 

1175
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,000
their station in life and go 
this person is fundamentally 

1176
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:04,040
better than me in some way. 
And if Holland is trying too 

1177
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,280
hard to get on their level, they
will just go, well who the fuck 

1178
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,360
are you then? 
If you're not better than me, 

1179
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,120
who the fuck are you? 
And that's basically the trap 

1180
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,000
he's fallen into here by by 
being too nice. 

1181
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,240
It doesn't happen the same way 
now, but there is a similar idea

1182
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,200
that if you're too friendly and 
too familiar, you know, and 

1183
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,240
spend too much time in their 
mess and being informal with 

1184
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,720
them, that when the time comes 
for you to change your bearing 

1185
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,120
and delivering order, you're 
going to get an answer back 

1186
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,200
instead of quick action, which 
is obviously also detrimental to

1187
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,560
naval discipline and the 
efficiency, the wall fighting 

1188
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,040
efficiency of the service. 
So I feel really bad for Holland

1189
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,120
because he's hard in the right 
place, but he's fundamentally 

1190
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,320
fucked up like and say so like 
completely incorrectly. 

1191
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,400
And he's in the chip as well, 
which is the hardest rank, I 

1192
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:49,280
think to occupy in the Navy at 
this time, especially the ages 

1193
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,400
that so again, midshipmen that 
are meant to be children of like

1194
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,800
in this time 13 and up, sort of 
basically children who were sent

1195
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:01,080
off to join ships. 
They do like their their 

1196
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,120
learning there. 
They are basically under 

1197
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,960
training. 
They don't live in the wardroom.

1198
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,480
They have a little gun room that
that is theirs instead. 

1199
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,360
And their whole reason not to be
on board is to learn their 

1200
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,680
trades so they can set the 
example Lieutenant and then they

1201
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,440
will get a complement position 
where they do a proper job and 

1202
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,080
hold actual responsibility on 
board later. 

1203
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,720
They don't, I'm not home. 
So sure if they hold the 

1204
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:24,480
Commission yet. 
I know that when in the role, 

1205
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,920
maybe now you do get a 
Commission and then you you come

1206
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,200
out the window as midshipmen. 
They changed that a little bit a

1207
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,760
little while ago though. 
So when I went for my training, 

1208
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,520
I was an officer cadet, but I 
also technically held the rank 

1209
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,120
of midshipmen. 
And then I held the shipment for

1210
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:40,720
a further about 12 months until 
they changed the policy. 

1211
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,880
And actually I should have been 
because I had prior service 

1212
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,800
should have been a sublime the 
entire time. 

1213
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:47,720
The exam for Lieutenant now is a
different thing. 

1214
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:52,680
Fundamentally, it's now it's 
broadest closest equivalent is 

1215
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,800
the navigation watch keeping 
certificate exam that you take 

1216
01:00:55,800 --> 01:01:02,240
place after you finish your SFT.
So ships specialist feet time, 

1217
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,400
which is like you learning your 
trade by holding watches on 

1218
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,520
board a ship, which is basically
what the the middies are doing 

1219
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:10,240
here. 
You do that, that time to get in

1220
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,240
a lot of amount of hours. 
It's changed fundamentally now 

1221
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,120
it's not just an interior Navy 
thing. 

1222
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,720
Now you're also achieving a 
standard required to hold like 

1223
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,800
SCW, which is a, a International
Maritime Organisation level 

1224
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,520
qualification in ship driving. 
So you do all that, you do your 

1225
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,360
exams, you do your simulator 
runs that we do nowadays and all

1226
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,000
the various bits of that. 
You get to have an oral board 

1227
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,080
during that kind of thing as 
well because you're you're 

1228
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:33,520
required to explain your 
decisions. 

1229
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:37,400
And at the end of it tick Fiji, 
your, your black book of bridge 

1230
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,200
qualifications occurs and then 
then you become local Senate. 

1231
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,000
So, so all this is to say is 
that Holland is still into 

1232
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,560
training, but he's like 30 years
old. 

1233
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,520
He's way too old for the role 
he's doing and he's fucked up. 

1234
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,920
What should have happened is 
Aubrey should have got around 

1235
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,080
him a lot earlier as his 
commanding officer and should 

1236
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,600
have set him on the right track.
And also so should have all the 

1237
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,120
lieutenants and kept Lieutenant 
Pullings in particular as as as 

1238
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,560
the XO, someone's in charge of 
training all those guys. 

1239
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,800
Ultimately, everything's 
responsible to the captain, but 

1240
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,080
someone on board would have been
responsible for making sure all 

1241
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:07,760
those midshipmen were 
progressing properly through 

1242
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,480
their training as well. 
And Holland has been let down by

1243
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,320
the system. 
He also has failed the 

1244
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,200
examination of Lieutenant twice.
And I don't know what he did, 

1245
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,720
obviously because he's a 
fictional character, but like at

1246
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,840
some point during that journey, 
they probably should have said 

1247
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:22,760
shit, mate, it's not happening 
for you. 

1248
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,120
Like leave the service because 
he's he's getting to the point 

1249
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,760
now where he's like more danger 
to be on board than not. 

1250
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:29,840
Just unfortunate. 
But yeah. 

1251
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:31,560
Anyway, that's my hot take on 
Holland. 

1252
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,320
What do you guys think? 
I think it's really great 

1253
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:37,520
painful to see him just get kind
of thinned out by his 13 year 

1254
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:41,120
old mates when he goes back to 
the when it goes back was caught

1255
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,960
as at one time with them. 
And like, you know, like when, 

1256
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,960
when you're when you're 13 year 
old shipmates giving you shit 

1257
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,840
and telling you how much you've 
biffed it, you know, and and and

1258
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,200
they keep not so much that, but 
you get that kind of vibe from 

1259
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:55,560
them. 
Like, wow, would you fuck this 

1260
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,520
one up, dude? 
It's painful to say. 

1261
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:01,200
I cringed from when he joined in
the sea shandy singing. 

1262
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,400
That's like a key moment that's 
pivotal. 

1263
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,720
I think he just he is one of 
those managers who kind of try 

1264
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,040
too hard to be a friend. 
Like he's up there with the 

1265
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,280
whole, we're like a family here.
When they interview you for a 

1266
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,440
job and it's like a gigantic red
flag, you know, like it's like. 

1267
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,240
Yeah, I think, I think that's 
insidious. 

1268
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:20,440
Yeah. 
I don't think, I don't think 

1269
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,320
Harlem is. 
I think Harlem is no generally 

1270
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,920
just out your depth I think. 
Yeah, that's that's actually 

1271
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,280
fair. 
I want to attract my statement. 

1272
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,400
No, that's all right. 
But yeah, because I was thinking

1273
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,000
we had we were talking in the 
group chat earlier on before 

1274
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,840
this. 
I don't think Holland is Holland

1275
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,400
is dangerous. 
And that if you were to come 

1276
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:39,400
left head and and then crack on,
he'd be I think ineffectual or 

1277
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,080
it would take an incredibly long
time for him to develop the 

1278
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,320
trust of the men and then they 
would work for him because they 

1279
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:49,640
liked him. 
But that's and and this is like 

1280
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,680
exploiting more different kind 
of power basis. 

1281
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,840
So we talk about power basis. 
So we talk about leadership 

1282
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:58,640
training for like different, 
different power bases that that 

1283
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:02,480
you can sort of draw upon in, in
different situations to, to get 

1284
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,040
people to follow your word of 
command. 

1285
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:08,200
Right. 
And what he fundamentally lacks 

1286
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,640
is like legitimate position 
because he's a midshipman. 

1287
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,280
He, he, he is, he doesn't rank 
them. 

1288
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,600
They should listen to him. 
But that on it's own isn't 

1289
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,600
enough because the people who 
he's talking to, yeah, right. 

1290
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,840
Maybe the lads and the folks 
will partnership down there. 

1291
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,360
The the ABS, not so much. 
But he's he's dealing with like 

1292
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:26,640
the serving master on a daily 
basis. 

1293
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,280
He's dealing with like the the 
people who know hold name 

1294
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,280
positions, the senior rates if 
you like. 

1295
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,840
He's going to struggle with that
because he hasn't got any 

1296
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,400
legitimate legitimacy because 
he's still under training and 

1297
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,000
he's just, he's basically a 
spark. 

1298
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:42,360
He's not though, because he's so
old. 

1299
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:46,480
But he basically is, right? 
That that also comes with him 

1300
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,920
having a reputation now. 
Oh, he's like the oldest 

1301
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,320
midshipman in the fleet, 
probably. 

1302
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,120
He's 29 years old and he's a 
midshipman. 

1303
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,840
That's so incredibly bad because
like how long has he been at 

1304
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,560
this for? 
He's a knowledgeable sailor, but

1305
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,320
has fundamentally failed as a 
personality to to progress and 

1306
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,760
get through get through his 
examination of a Lieutenant. 

1307
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,640
Also, how good a sailor is he if
he can't get through the 

1308
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,320
examination? 
Because there's a lot of 

1309
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,320
technical proficiency required 
for that as well as we've all 

1310
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,760
seen probably probably seen it 
dramatised and Hornblower, the 

1311
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,440
examination of a Lieutenant 
Fatterback, Dover cliffs, What 

1312
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,560
kind of stuff? 
And a mastered. 

1313
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,280
Mr Hornblower. 
Yeah, maybe if there's been a 

1314
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,840
fire ship into the harbour 
during exactly might done 

1315
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,840
better, but yeah, ridiculous. 
So so yeah, he's. 

1316
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:33,920
He's, if he's kind of bored at 
the same age as the other guys. 

1317
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,440
He's been been a midshipman for 
what, 17 years? 

1318
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,600
More than more than half his 
life, like the majority of his 

1319
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,760
life at this point. 
And it's like when he's talking 

1320
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,720
about the century of him back in
an entry level job for that long

1321
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,200
and it's literally taken up a 
significant part of your life. 

1322
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:53,040
Years of tragic character. 
I mean, it would be, you know, 

1323
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,200
horrible to be in his shoes from
much of the day, I think. 

1324
01:05:56,200 --> 01:06:01,360
Be humiliating I think to to be 
sharing like the gun room with 

1325
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:05,440
again like this 1314 year olds 
Calamy is I think even I had 

1326
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,200
Holland lived Calamy still would
have been mid local acting 

1327
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,280
lifting ahead of Holland and I 
think yeah that would have been 

1328
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,720
like yet another brutal 
humiliation that he's probably 

1329
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,720
got like a listen of these over 
the past like for 10 years of 

1330
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,240
his career. 
You know it's you shouldn't be 

1331
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:23,840
in under training for that long 
God in the Navy going back 

1332
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,880
probably about in the last sort 
of 30 or 40 years. 

1333
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:28,800
The going rate for the length of
time in the shipment being the 

1334
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:34,240
shipment for was used to be for 
the entire duration of your of 

1335
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,320
your specialist free time 
training periods. 

1336
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:40,680
So about three years and I think
that's probably about true for 

1337
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,800
these times. 
The other thing that's, uh, 

1338
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:46,160
specifically about the Navy at 
this time is that a large 

1339
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,640
portion of your progression for 
your career was look at the draw

1340
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,520
in terms of the ships you were 
on, the jobs they were given to 

1341
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:55,280
do and, and your commanding 
officer as well, who had a 

1342
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,920
humongous say and whether or not
you progress forward. 

1343
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,760
So the problem with Holland is, 
is that because he's cast him 

1344
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:02,960
perfectly with the angleby and 
they've done a great job on the 

1345
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,080
makeup and stuff. 
They've made him give off the 

1346
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,960
bearing of someone who's just a 
bit like awkward and cliky and 

1347
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,800
uncomfortable and unheimlick and
his clothes don't seem to like 

1348
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,960
fit and all that kind of stuff. 
And such a personality driven 

1349
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,880
Navy at the time that you can 
just see that like every 

1350
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,040
commanding officer he's had has 
probably had given, it's been 

1351
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:22,720
given the ick and it's gotten 
worse and worse. 

1352
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,880
He's gotten older and older and 
they've just been like, I don't,

1353
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:27,840
I don't I don't want this. 
This fucking guy is not going to

1354
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:29,680
promote in my watch. 
And that's what's kind of 

1355
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,360
happened to him, I think, which 
is a bit of a shame. 

1356
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,080
He's not like a, he's not an 
antagonistic bad person by by 

1357
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,760
any means, but he's just not fit
for the job that he's trying to 

1358
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,840
get into at the standards of the
time. 

1359
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,640
His life would have been saved 
by him getting dismissed a few 

1360
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,480
years ago. 
And just like give him the sack 

1361
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,520
and said you know what, try 
something else man. 

1362
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,680
Go into finance. 
I mean, it's an option for 

1363
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,280
officers apparently. 
Work at the Torpoint ferry like 

1364
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,600
just like. 
Just go be a high women or 

1365
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,320
something like that, you know? 
Be a doorman at the Navy Board. 

1366
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:04,480
Nice. 
It's a shame. 

1367
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,960
I often think about what would 
happen with the modern, the 

1368
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,600
modern day Navy equivalent of 
stuff that's from like media 

1369
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:12,400
from like that covers this time 
period. 

1370
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,680
I was thinking about like, you 
know, when home blower gets like

1371
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,040
landed on shore with half pay 
and I was thinking like, what 

1372
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:18,640
would be the modern day 
equivalent of that? 

1373
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,040
And it's like, well, you would. 
Me no longer getting my being at

1374
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:23,240
sea money. 
That's it. 

1375
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,439
Yeah, you lose. 
So you lose your CPA, use your 

1376
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:27,640
longest separation allowance 
because you're not at sea. 

1377
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:29,880
You lose your X Factor. 
Probably. 

1378
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:31,760
It's probably the closest thing 
that would happen. 

1379
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:35,080
And then but then I also always 
think because what does home 

1380
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:38,439
load is he starts going around 
various like gentlemen's clubs 

1381
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,240
playing whist or something 
gambling to like make more 

1382
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,080
money. 
And it's all like the sad 

1383
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,479
equipment of that nowadays. 
It's probably like someone like 

1384
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:49,560
at 3:00 in the morning, like 
half cut in the Groves in the 

1385
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,200
casino in Lincoln. 
Wolf Keys. 

1386
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,120
Like. 
To earn back enough money to pay

1387
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:57,000
their off Sky high rent. 
Some awful landlord. 

1388
01:08:57,279 --> 01:08:59,640
Or to buy their porn and sword 
back. 

1389
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,479
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Ponzi Ponzi sword as well, which

1390
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:05,359
is absolutely terrible. 
Just starting laying like mad 

1391
01:09:05,399 --> 01:09:09,240
esoteric bets on polymarkets 
that like somehow, somehow and. 

1392
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:14,800
Trading 212 Yeah. 
Yeah, Oh my God, gets in a 

1393
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,240
crypto, let's be real here. 
Gets an ad FT. 

1394
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:21,160
All my ships gone. 
I wasted all my land pay 

1395
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:25,120
allowance on on huge coin. 
I know a guy who's got. 

1396
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,840
Somebody buy my sword back for. 
Me on. 

1397
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,439
The I have am no longer getting 
C pay. 

1398
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,960
I have spent all my C pay on a 
stupid car anyway. 

1399
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,000
Oh shit. 
Taylor's orders time. 

1400
01:09:37,399 --> 01:09:42,160
What's the 8th century version 
of By the Land Rover by by the 

1401
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:43,920
horse with like lots of health 
problems? 

1402
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:45,680
This is a horse. 
It leaks. 

1403
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,560
That's a really big like 
impressive, like like really big

1404
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,920
impressive fucking industrial 
year or whatever they call those

1405
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,760
a big fuck off war horses, But 
like it's but it's but it's got 

1406
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,400
like a lot of problems wrong 
that this is gummy as fucking 

1407
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,920
the vets constantly coming out 
and fix it and it's like it 

1408
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:05,240
essentially does leak. 
Okey dokey, where we at later 

1409
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,040
Hollom believing himself should 
be the Jonah has he's been 

1410
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:11,200
involved in many unfortunate 
incidents on the voids commits 

1411
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,760
suicide by jumping into the 
ocean clasping a cannonball in 

1412
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:18,160
front of fellowshipman Blatney. 
Eerily, the wind picks up and 

1413
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,080
rain starts falling again soon 
afterwards. 

1414
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:24,360
So this is this is sad. 
It's also a bit of a bit of a 

1415
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:28,160
meme splash joke in the daily, 
which is the you've always been 

1416
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,080
very kind. 
And then he stops a set of the 

1417
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,520
ship holding the cannonball very
very sad. 

1418
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,400
I also feel. 
The saddest thing is that this, 

1419
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:40,160
this adult man's last words on 
this earth before he jumps 

1420
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:44,280
smooth off the ship to a 13 year
old kid because he's got no like

1421
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,960
kind of peers of his own age. 
And then that's like, man, that 

1422
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,480
kind of fucking hurts. 
That's so sad because like 

1423
01:10:49,480 --> 01:10:51,120
Benton, he's like, I think the 
window will pick up soon and 

1424
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,000
he's like, I'm sure of it 
because he's about to commit 

1425
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,640
suicide, so. 
I'm sure of it because I'm going

1426
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,800
to Kermit suicide right now, 
yeah. 

1427
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,760
It's awful. 
The funeral for him is also like

1428
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:06,200
pretty chilling because you have
you've got you've got Aubrey 

1429
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:10,480
doing first of all, Killick, who
opens the Bible on like the 

1430
01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:13,120
section like Jonah. 
It's like you fucking twat, like

1431
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:17,840
a guy died. 
And then and then Aubrey gives 

1432
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:21,320
like his address, which is, you 
know, we're not always as 

1433
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,440
fortunate to be the person we 
wish we'd be in life. 

1434
01:11:23,440 --> 01:11:26,080
And it's just like, man, you 
appreciate the the tragedy of it

1435
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:27,760
all. 
But also like, don't talk shit 

1436
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,000
about him. 
But he's a funeral. 

1437
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:31,800
Jesus. 
Like this guy sucked it, but he 

1438
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,200
knew it. 
Yeah. 

1439
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,240
Jesus and then and then the film
doesn't a little bit dirty or or

1440
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,560
not where yeah, it starts to 
rain in the wind picks up at the

1441
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,640
funeral. 
It's like, but maybe he was the 

1442
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,440
journal. 
In fact, it's a bit a bit mean 

1443
01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:49,200
to say about someone who 
obviously tragically take in 

1444
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:50,680
their life. 
Although you made the good point

1445
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,720
in the group chat, Sonia, that 
that it might be because he 

1446
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,400
asked forgiveness of those who 
who did them wrong and and 

1447
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,240
that's would be why the curse 
was lifted. 

1448
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,320
But yeah, very sad. 
So the next bit we get is a 

1449
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,000
little montage of everyone 
happily washing their air and 

1450
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,480
you see how incredibly long the 
Killick's hair is. 

1451
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:13,960
So which is fun whiles and then 
the next bit is and then he said

1452
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:19,240
Peregrine took Billy Boys calls 
out to matron and says, have you

1453
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:20,960
seen this great big bird? 
There's an albatross flight 

1454
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,680
around. 
So Matron's running around the 

1455
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:24,560
deck trying to see this 
Albatross is flying around at 

1456
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:26,600
the same time as the the Royal 
Marines. 

1457
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,160
Captain Howard is being an 
absolute rogue. 

1458
01:12:30,440 --> 01:12:33,160
Fuck me, man. 
The first. 

1459
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,680
Rule of firearm safety is always
shoot the ship's surgeon. 

1460
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,480
The second rule of firearm 
safety is just be yourself, and 

1461
01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:42,960
the third one is have fun. 
Yes. 

1462
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,840
So yeah, he's not pointing the 
weapon in a safe direction and 

1463
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,960
that he's flinging around the 
place on the deck. 

1464
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,480
Everybody's on the deck. 
And then sure enough, he shoots 

1465
01:12:53,480 --> 01:12:56,520
a matcher in in the side going 
I'm sorry the bird went low, as 

1466
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,840
if that was a justification for 
aiming the gun anywhere within 

1467
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,120
the ship. 
Yeah, as if that's a 

1468
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,040
justification for fucking trying
to shoot an albatross anyway. 

1469
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,960
I mean, Rhyme of the Ancient 
Mariner etcetera isn't meant to 

1470
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:09,480
be incredibly bad luck on an 
already fucking cursed voyage, 

1471
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:11,560
by the way. 
It isn't like everything's been 

1472
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,080
incredibly jammy up to this. 
Like they haven't had anyone of 

1473
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:15,760
good luck at all. 
It's like, oh, let's double the 

1474
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,400
fuck down by shooting albatross.
Christ. 

1475
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,360
If you run a short. 
Right, Captain of the Marines. 

1476
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,320
Would you like to break a few 
mirrors while you're at it? 

1477
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,840
Indeed, very, very cursed. 
So he gets shot. 

1478
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:29,120
He loses consciousness. 
The surgeons mate. 

1479
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:32,240
Higgins, to his credit, realises
that a bit of the cloth from the

1480
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:37,360
shirt is in the wound with the 
ball and explains that to to to 

1481
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:41,800
to Captain Jack that it will, it
will separate investor unless it

1482
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,120
is removed and they need to, to 
remove it. 

1483
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,920
Aubrey asks him politely but 
firmly. 

1484
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:52,320
Are you up to this job? 
And, and Higgins is like, Oh 

1485
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,680
yeah, once I've read some books 
to get me there and, you know, 

1486
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:58,040
it'd be a bit easier to, it's a 
bit easy if we weren't, we 

1487
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:01,400
didn't have all this. 
And it was like, Jesus fucking 

1488
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:03,920
Christ, mate. 
Oliver, Jack's responding. 

1489
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,920
Look at pictures, yeah. 
Look at pictures. 

1490
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,200
Maybe, maybe if you word it and 
said consult some diagrams. 

1491
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,040
Yeah, it's all about how you 
speak to management at this 

1492
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,840
point, like instead of saying 
fuck off, say OK, I'll do that 

1493
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,960
and then just don't do it. 
That's that's how we deal with 

1494
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,560
management. 
Yeah, Higgins. 

1495
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,240
Yeah, get this into you OODA 
loop. 

1496
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,360
Yeah, so pretty, pretty bad 
news. 

1497
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,520
Also a sailor spot on the 
horizon ahead, which is believed

1498
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,560
to be the Akron. 
Aubrey is now faced with a 

1499
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,400
difficult choice, to follow the 
old ship or get the ship 

1500
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:40,440
alongside on dry land and give 
Stephen a fighting chance of 

1501
01:14:40,440 --> 01:14:42,600
having a successful operation to
remove the bullet. 

1502
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,760
And to his credit, they go 
alongside Stephen against 

1503
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,440
consciousness. 
And he realises that he's in a 

1504
01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:50,440
tent on the Galapagos and 
they've abandoned the the Akron 

1505
01:14:50,440 --> 01:14:52,080
and order to save him and 
Matron. 

1506
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:56,120
He forms surgery on himself with
the of a mirror and a fantastic 

1507
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:59,560
scene and successfully removes 
the musket ball, which is 

1508
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,200
phenomenal because you have the 
whole bit of like the comedy of 

1509
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,480
of like, oh, if you don't need 
me, I'll just be outside say, 

1510
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,000
Oh, actually, actually, Captain,
I do need you to like put some 

1511
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:09,720
pressure on the wounds. 
And he's like, oh, I've been 

1512
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:11,480
around wounds all my life. 
I should be fine. 

1513
01:15:11,480 --> 01:15:14,280
And he's like visibly queasy and
unhappy, right, Which is 

1514
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,240
fantastic. 
And you have the whole thing of 

1515
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,440
Padine, the lobbly boy is like 
trying to hold the mirror, but 

1516
01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:21,600
and he's like grossed out. 
So he turns away and all that 

1517
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,440
stuff. 
Lolly boy, this is one of the 

1518
01:15:23,440 --> 01:15:27,200
most obviously Jack speak. 
You've you've you've run out the

1519
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,840
lob, lolly boy. 
The lob lolly boy is yeah, it's 

1520
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,400
a is is a term of Jack speak. 
If I got my Jack speak 

1521
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:36,440
dictionary nearby Lob lolly boy 
all the term for a young lad who

1522
01:15:36,480 --> 01:15:39,280
is the ships surgeon as 
described in the novel Roderick 

1523
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:44,800
Random by Tobias Smollett, still
senior to a fox doctors clerk. 

1524
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:49,000
Loblolly was the nickname given 
to a thin watery gruel served in

1525
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,800
the sick birth. 
So basically it's it's named 

1526
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,560
after the thin gruel that people
have served in like sick days. 

1527
01:15:55,480 --> 01:15:57,840
Not some ships the line, but in 
naval hospitals. 

1528
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,840
But there you go. 
Imagine your entire job being 

1529
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,800
named after hospital food man. 
Pretty grim. 

1530
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,080
Pretty pretty. 
That, that, that, that. 

1531
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:09,160
Your ranks gruel. 
George, by the way, get back to 

1532
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,960
it. 
It's it's like, it's like you 

1533
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,080
can have like in Burundi, U.S. 
Navy equivalent named after 

1534
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:17,280
that. 
We had mystery meets it. 

1535
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,280
We've seen all those photographs
that were going around from that

1536
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:24,320
from someone's meal on some U.S.
Navy ship that it just looks 

1537
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:28,440
like some like animal's tongue 
has been ripped smooth out of 

1538
01:16:28,440 --> 01:16:30,240
its head. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

1539
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,200
Mystery meets. 
Absolutely foul. 

1540
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:33,920
I did. 
I did do some digging onto that 

1541
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:37,520
particular bit of naval vittling
and and discovered that it was 

1542
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:39,040
meant to be like kebab, 
basically. 

1543
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:43,520
Yeah, like fat packed pre pre 
cooks kebab meat that they just 

1544
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,720
throw into like a pan to heat 
heat through. 

1545
01:16:46,440 --> 01:16:49,760
Well, this is what. 
Would be better for morale is if

1546
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:53,320
they had to get the proper like 
meat tornado kind of set up and 

1547
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:55,960
and and and it's like a Turkish 
guy you call your boss man. 

1548
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:59,280
It's like cut strips off this 
slowly rotating meat tornado 

1549
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,760
that you know. 
You had me at the Meat Tornado. 

1550
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:04,880
Yeah, yeah. 
That was that was a scram 

1551
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:09,240
picture of on USS Abraham 
Lincoln, which is obviously 

1552
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:12,600
currently currently stationed 
out in vicinity of the probably 

1553
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,880
the Gulf of Oman. 
But yeah, Grimm proper grim 

1554
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:18,920
indeed. 
So the performance syndrome 

1555
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,200
himself successfully removes the
musket ball and the bit of cloth

1556
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:27,080
which will patch up nicely, Sir.
And he now has the opportunity 

1557
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,240
to explore the Galapagos. 
He makes many scientific 

1558
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:32,280
discoveries, including his type 
of flightless cormorant, and he,

1559
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:37,840
Padine and Blitney are catching 
iguanas, little lizards and bits

1560
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,880
of plant and bobs, bugs and 
stuff, and having a rare old 

1561
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:42,120
time. 
It's great. 

1562
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:46,080
It's such a good dudes rock ADHD
side quest. 

1563
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,560
It's great and he's like David 
doesn't doesn't doesn't exist 

1564
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:49,960
out here. 
We've got we're going to walk to

1565
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:51,120
this out there. 
And that's what my fighters 

1566
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,040
comment was. 
So that's 10 miles will be 

1567
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:54,760
better get going. 
And he loves it. 

1568
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,880
He's super excited. 
Unfortunately, on the wander 

1569
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:01,240
across he's some sort of a hill,
he notices a large free master 

1570
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:03,720
ship sailing into one of the 
island bays flying the French 

1571
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:06,920
flag and he knows it must be the
Akron and that the Akron has 

1572
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,760
returned. 
He is visibly crestfallen, but 

1573
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:15,160
thank Christ for this. 
Matchan knows that he has got a 

1574
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:18,040
sworn duty to inform the ship 
and they get back as as a 

1575
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:20,800
posthaste. 
Which is good because all that 

1576
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:24,480
whinge in earlier on about 
about, you know, going or doing 

1577
01:18:24,480 --> 01:18:28,240
stuff unnecessarily and this 
being a tyrannical regime and 

1578
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,320
all that kind of stuff. 
He's he's not disloyal. 

1579
01:18:30,440 --> 01:18:32,240
He was just a bit grumpy. 
So that's nice. 

1580
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,120
They rushed back because he. 
Foster Report Not disloyal, just

1581
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:37,760
a bit grumpy, yeah. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1582
01:18:39,480 --> 01:18:43,080
It's probably because Aubrey 
drank the last coffee half an 

1583
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,800
hour earlier. 
Yeah, most sense of humour 

1584
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:49,080
failure during foster training 
are are related to coffee supply

1585
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,160
on board or the billing of 
coffee on board. 

1586
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:56,320
I always bring my own doctor 
requestfallen that his trek has 

1587
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:58,720
been cut short, but he has to 
return to the ship and as the 

1588
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:01,080
running back obviously gets a 
bit slowed down because of his 

1589
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:04,000
wound, so Padine has to pick him
up and carry him. 

1590
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,160
And all the specimens have to be
left behind in the open, all the

1591
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:07,520
cages. 
And you see all the creepy 

1592
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,720
crawlies flee from their cages 
and it's very sad. 

1593
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:11,720
But also nice that you thought 
to open the cages. 

1594
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,240
That's nice. 
After observing the deceptive 

1595
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,760
qualities of a stick insect, 
which was shown to him by 

1596
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:20,640
Blatney and Steven, Aubrey has 
an idea the surprise will be 

1597
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:24,040
disguised as a slovenly unsaler 
like whaling ship. 

1598
01:19:25,480 --> 01:19:28,920
And I love all this because he's
he's basically saying like with 

1599
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,840
the with the whaling ship master
right there, like right, we're 

1600
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,080
going to make us also like these
pricks, but. 

1601
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:38,280
Not not like him specifically. 
Yeah, yeah, prison company 

1602
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:40,560
accepted, But people like all 
that dipshit. 

1603
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:44,040
But these, these tickets, these.
And a lot of that. 

1604
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:48,560
Guy I'm we're going to love our 
sailors like this Dick probably 

1605
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:50,400
does not even seeing the ship, 
but we're going to love 

1606
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,520
ourselves like this. 
Pratt probably does right. 

1607
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,720
We're going to take all caps off
Go don't dress so well. 

1608
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,680
Stop watching. 
We're going to we're going to 

1609
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:58,200
look like assholes like this 
guy. 

1610
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:02,800
Do a fence. 
Yeah, bang, bang your head off 

1611
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,320
the bulkheads to make yourself a
bit stupider while you're at it.

1612
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,360
We're going to have to pretend 
to be people who are fucking 

1613
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:09,760
subnormal at this point. 
They do all that. 

1614
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:13,320
No offence, no offence, we're 
like I, but you know, you're, 

1615
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,600
you're a credit to your career, 
I'm sure, wink. 

1616
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,920
There's this one moment of 
cliche military comedy. 

1617
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:24,200
They're just hard to get in 
their way, so stop saying yes to

1618
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:25,880
everything. 
And the entire room was just 

1619
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,480
yes, Sir. 
We're almost still struggling on

1620
01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:29,800
for that. 
I think that's good. 

1621
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:33,560
I like that a lot. 
Before the this, they did a 

1622
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:34,840
little bit of gunnery drill as 
well. 

1623
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,360
I enjoyed that very much because
that's we haven't talked about 

1624
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:38,400
it. 
We'll do it in the quotes I 

1625
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:40,200
guess. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1626
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:44,000
Man God damn that was such a 
fucking cool sequence as well 

1627
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:45,840
though. 
Yeah, it really was, really was 

1628
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:47,960
enjoyed that. 
We'll talk about that in a bit. 

1629
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:51,200
And then as this is happening, 
he has his hearts in mind. 

1630
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:55,280
Speech to ship's company saying 
like, you know, even though we'd

1631
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:59,600
be on the far side of the 
world's title drop, this ship is

1632
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,440
England and all that good stuff.
Really. 

1633
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,040
Yeah. 
Makes your heart glow. 

1634
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,000
If it would come from somebody 
else, you'd think, oh, what 

1635
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,560
pitiful stuff because it comes 
from Jack Aubrey, you know, you 

1636
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:09,720
feel. 
You feel your heart. 

1637
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:13,080
Go see. 
What you did there And they'll 

1638
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:17,920
pass me the solve. 
So there they asked Dujin about 

1639
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:21,640
with their their Luff and sails 
which. 

1640
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:25,320
Smoking cigars and drinking tea.
Drinking tea and they've got 

1641
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:28,520
like all the smoke from the the 
whaling with with two. 

1642
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:31,320
Ions of sugar in there, the 
decadent bastards that are. 

1643
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:33,080
Free he gives him because he 
likes him. 

1644
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:34,640
I like that. 
There's another, there's another

1645
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:36,920
thing about Killick that that 
shows because he crumbles and 

1646
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:38,600
crumbles and crumbles, but he's 
he's all right, really. 

1647
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:40,680
And I and I love that. 
So that's really good. 

1648
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:45,120
So we get an incredibly cliched 
French accent yelling out like 

1649
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:49,080
stop busy English Wheelers, you 
have no hope, you silly English.

1650
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,440
I was gonna. 
Say that's that, that's that. 

1651
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,000
That's the error. 
She was like. 

1652
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,040
Your. 
Father was a hamster and now? 

1653
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:02,240
Go. 
Back to another island or I 

1654
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:06,920
shall think you a second. 
Time that's exactly so good, so 

1655
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:15,280
good, man, it's like. 
Say that or it's like some like 

1656
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,200
that like iconic. 
You have no chance to survive. 

1657
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:22,040
Make your time fucking video 
game intro meme. 

1658
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,280
It's you. 
Someone set us up the bomb, 

1659
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,120
gentlemen, you have no chance to
survive. 

1660
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:29,680
Make your time, move everything 
for great justice, etcetera. 

1661
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,480
All your best to belong to us. 
Yes, that's the one. 

1662
01:22:34,480 --> 01:22:37,600
Yeah, yes, yeah, fantastic 
stuff. 

1663
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:40,520
Yeah, so I love this. 
And then there's a 

1664
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,840
conspiratorial look on the upper
deck of the surprise and an epic

1665
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:48,840
call of Let's Fly goes out and 
and the King's colours are 

1666
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:52,880
hoisted and the battle is on. 
And with that, a amazing 

1667
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:58,240
broadside close range, all 
aiming towards the main mist of 

1668
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:01,360
the Akron. 
And then there's a great tense 

1669
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:05,280
sequence where we the smoke is 
literally clearing. 

1670
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,720
We wait for the report of what 
what happens. 

1671
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:14,520
And then we see the main nest of
the of this the Akron Creek 

1672
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,640
Creek. 
And for everyone's tune, like, 

1673
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:20,080
yeah, get on and and and and the
fray begins. 

1674
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:23,000
Just before this, though, we had
some dishing out some jobs. 

1675
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:27,200
So as I mentioned earlier, Mr 
Calamy gets locally rated up to 

1676
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,880
acting third left in him and 
will lead a bowling party to to 

1677
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,960
rescue the whalers. 
There are 30 Whalers imprisoned 

1678
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:37,400
on board the the Akron who will 
turn the tide of the battle if 

1679
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:39,920
they are released. 
That would be a secondary 

1680
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:42,440
objective if this was a video 
game level and. 

1681
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:46,480
You don't need like rescue like 
10 of them though like like it's

1682
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:50,120
like the rest of them will just 
like stand there like repeating 

1683
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:57,440
the same like animation cycle. 
Yeah, and Mr Blatley is 

1684
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:00,080
disappointed because he is not 
allowed to go in the bowling 

1685
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:05,440
party because he's a tiny child 
and because one. 

1686
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,120
Arm. 
One arms child. 

1687
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:11,080
I don't know what he thought he 
was going to do but but actually

1688
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:14,040
we see in a bit so it's great 
yeah so he's disappointed. 

1689
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,240
He goes he goes to entrance the 
captain. 

1690
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,640
I love his his gumption. 
I love his balls. 

1691
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,480
He's brave as because he wants 
to get in the in the thick of it

1692
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,840
and so props to him again, envy 
the GP of the movie for me. 

1693
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:27,880
Captain Jack tells him. 
Oh no, I need you to command the

1694
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:31,720
quad deck for when the boarding 
begins you will be in command of

1695
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:33,640
the ship. 
He's like command the ship. 

1696
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,400
Oh, thank you, Sir. 
Boy, oh boy, oh boy. 

1697
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,600
Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. 
Which is actually great because 

1698
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,800
like, all you have to do is 
reframe the ask a little bit and

1699
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:45,200
and suddenly he's like all over 
it, you know? 

1700
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:50,400
Masters given Dobby a frigate. 
Make ears free there are as none

1701
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:54,960
as so free as the sons of the 
waves That should be OK hello 

1702
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:58,120
mentioned Oh these ships jolly 
tart are all men all right so 

1703
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:03,680
yeah absolutely fantastic. 
So the boarding commences having

1704
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:07,680
having swathed to the the upper 
deck of the of the Akron and we 

1705
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,840
were talking about very sad 
final people's lines. 

1706
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:15,280
Oh yeah, at the boarding party, 
Horizon board, a big group of 

1707
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,880
French guys are all playing 
possum on the other deck and 

1708
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,240
nobody knows as the smoke is 
clearing who's alive and who's 

1709
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:21,280
dead. 
They all think they're dead. 

1710
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:24,760
And the silly master goes, seems
to me like the job is done. 

1711
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:27,000
And just as he says that, he 
gets shot like squarefielder 

1712
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:30,280
Forest. 
And, and that's a real shame 

1713
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:31,760
because he's like one of my 
favourite characters. 

1714
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,560
We haven't talked about it, but 
he let the sing along of don't 

1715
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,200
forget your old shipmates. 
Yes, earlier on during one of 

1716
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,520
the next dinners, Great, great 
voice, really wonderful 

1717
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:43,080
rendition. 
So if that sounded home again, 

1718
01:25:45,480 --> 01:25:48,080
yeah, wonderful. 
Also he had like one of the 

1719
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:51,080
great lines earlier on the 
movie, which is like 100 miles 

1720
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:53,280
of shining scene between me and 
her and he brings up on our 

1721
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,080
stern. 
That's seamanship. 

1722
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,280
Just wonderful. 
So he's a big loss when he goes 

1723
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:00,360
down. 
Felt that. 

1724
01:26:00,440 --> 01:26:02,880
I feel like I tell you what, 
again, like I said, this film is

1725
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,200
full of that guys. 
There are casualties during this

1726
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:08,120
final confrontation and you feel
every single one of them because

1727
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:09,840
they're all familiar faces by 
this point because you've been 

1728
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:11,200
living with them. 
That's another thing this film 

1729
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,960
really captures is that you've 
actually seen, you're actually 

1730
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:15,880
more embedded in the crew than 
you realise because you see 

1731
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:17,520
these like faces and you see 
them go down. 

1732
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:18,800
You're like, oh shit, no, not 
that guy. 

1733
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:21,160
So like pretty much all of them.
It's because it's so immersive. 

1734
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:24,400
It's because it seems how well 
the work you see the seriousness

1735
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:30,160
with which the perform it the on
any it's easy when you write in 

1736
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:33,000
a war film, but throw in a bunch
of like super like kind of easy 

1737
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,800
character archetypes, since I've
got like, oh, the crazy guy, the

1738
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,920
wild card, the Super religious 
guy that's going to snap at the 

1739
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:40,320
end of the second act and stuff 
like that. 

1740
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:44,680
And you don't really have this 
in this, this seem all very kind

1741
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:46,640
of real kind of like that about 
it. 

1742
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:50,440
And it makes all the deaths kind
of you might have a like like 

1743
01:26:50,440 --> 01:26:53,200
emotional effect on you. 
And it's it's just powerful 

1744
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,680
movie maker. 
Yeah, it really is. 

1745
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,640
It reminds me a little bit what 
you're just saying there of 

1746
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,960
surfing Private Ryan or Band of 
Brothers as well achieves a 

1747
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:06,360
similar feat. 
Band of Brothers is phenomenal. 

1748
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:09,080
It's, it's less impressive there
because it's done about 10 hours

1749
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:12,080
and you've got all that time. 
But this, you know, this is only

1750
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:15,400
a 2 1/2 hour film and this 
happens about a 2 hour mark and 

1751
01:27:15,480 --> 01:27:18,520
and it whips along. 
It only really stews on a little

1752
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:19,760
bit during the Galapagos 
sequence. 

1753
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,960
But like the rest otherwise it's
they've achieved all the 

1754
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:27,560
character work like during 
during action sequences or 

1755
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:28,880
during the buildings and action 
sequence. 

1756
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:30,240
It's actually phenomenal how 
they've done that. 

1757
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:33,000
Yeah. 
The only the only the bit where 

1758
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:36,080
it slows down a little bit, I 
think, is when they're you've 

1759
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,840
got because it Joseph Neagle is 
talking about. 

1760
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,080
Well, think about your share of 
the prize money. 

1761
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:44,120
That ship will be loaded up with
gold and the grease and all the 

1762
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:47,040
jewels of Araby and then all 
that stuff anyway, right, sorry,

1763
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:50,560
final fight leaving the surprise
Jack and Lieutenant Pullings are

1764
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:52,760
do the boarding parties onto the
Akron and are ambushed 

1765
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:54,720
themselves. 
Meanwhile, acting third 

1766
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:57,280
Lieutenant Peter Kalmi leads the
group to rescue the captured 

1767
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,960
Wheelers. 
Blatley notices that they are 

1768
01:27:59,960 --> 01:28:05,120
trying to shoot out the quarter 
deck of the surprise, aims his 

1769
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:08,160
guns into to knockout their 
guns, blasts a massive hole on 

1770
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,400
the side of the Akron, and then 
noticing obviously there's now 

1771
01:28:11,440 --> 01:28:15,240
an easy point of egress from the
Akron reasons that he also must 

1772
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,760
board the Akron and abandoned 
the surprise. 

1773
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:19,800
Funny old thing that the guy who
really wanted to be involved in 

1774
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,080
the boarding is fun to way to 
get involved in the boarding, 

1775
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,880
eh? 
Listen here, you little shit. 

1776
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:27,440
We've got a board, we've got a 
board and he jumps on board and 

1777
01:28:27,440 --> 01:28:29,680
he's again, he's like 9 years 
old or something. 

1778
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:33,040
I don't know how old he actually
was but he has like 1 arm with 

1779
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:34,760
his other arm he's got there. 
He's like tooled up with a 

1780
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:39,160
little pistol and he's like just
like blasting up. 

1781
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:40,800
It's like Oh my God, he's loving
it. 

1782
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,960
Great. 
Just what a what a what a loud, 

1783
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:46,920
artsy legend. 
It was him from the end of the 

1784
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:50,560
gun deck with the Doctor and 
which obviously Steve Matron and

1785
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:54,240
the surgeon's mate Higgins. 
And yeah, they're in there like 

1786
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:56,200
stopping them from using their 
guns and stuff. 

1787
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,240
There's a hilarious little bit 
where Higgins like puts his hand

1788
01:28:58,240 --> 01:28:59,760
in front of the hammer on the 
cannon. 

1789
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:03,000
It's. 
It's, it's one of the few bits 

1790
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:04,680
in the film. 
It's like playing like physical 

1791
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:06,920
humour kind of laughs. 
And it's like, and it's just 

1792
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:10,000
like legitimately funny and it 
isn't a fucking big sigh. 

1793
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:14,120
Again, there are ways to put 
comedy bits and films that just 

1794
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:16,600
ruin them. 
And they they fly now. 

1795
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:20,040
They fly now, that kind of shit.
And this guy jammed his hand 

1796
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:24,520
under the flintlock mechanism. 
It's it's funny, it gets your 

1797
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:27,480
laugh, but it's not fucking 
stupid, you know what I mean? 

1798
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:30,560
It's good as well because this 
character we've we've got to 

1799
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:33,360
know a little bit through his 
not being sued at all, 

1800
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:37,080
performing surgery. 
So he's been a bit of a, he's 

1801
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:39,200
been a bit of a punchline of the
last point, but now he's good. 

1802
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:40,880
He's given a win. 
Yeah, because he does something 

1803
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:43,080
that's funny and in line with 
his character. 

1804
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:45,040
But it was also like objectively
for the good. 

1805
01:29:45,440 --> 01:29:47,360
So it's a nice, it's a nice, 
it's a nice, it's a nice way of 

1806
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:50,880
tying him up as with a little 
victorious moment. 

1807
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:52,000
I think that's really, really 
nice. 

1808
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:53,000
Yeah. 
Great. 

1809
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:56,520
So yeah, lots of bloody course, 
close quarters come back takes 

1810
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,760
place, lots of swordplay, all 
that kind of stuff going on. 

1811
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,560
Really, really cool. 
It's a great sequence. 

1812
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:06,640
I love how how how Blakeney just
looks like, well, 18th century 

1813
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:09,960
Rambo going on the ship because 
he's all the the pistols for the

1814
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,000
imprisoned whalers slung around 
his neck and. 

1815
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:15,160
He's just like, Oh yeah, yeah, 
that's classy. 

1816
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:16,840
Yeah. 
Then when, when, yeah, when, 

1817
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:19,240
when Calibie gets to releasing 
all the Whalers and he's they 

1818
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:21,160
kind enough to them as they're 
all flooding out and they're 

1819
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:22,920
like they're they're fixing for 
a scrap. 

1820
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:24,080
It's really, really good. 
It's. 

1821
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:26,800
Like yeah, 22 alot boys, let's 
go. 

1822
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:27,760
It's hunting. 
Season. 

1823
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,160
And it's not long inside of that
where it starts to die down. 

1824
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:33,200
And it's like you have that 
moment where it's gone quiet and

1825
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:34,600
like, are they still going? 
Are they still fighting? 

1826
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:36,120
If they strip their coast? 
I think they have. 

1827
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:38,680
If you find their captain, Yeah.
Just keep looking to cut it on 

1828
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:42,680
and all that kind of stuff. 
And then eventually it has died 

1829
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:43,960
down. 
They've seized control of the 

1830
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:45,720
ship. 
And Aubrey searches for the 

1831
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,880
captain of the of the Akron. 
He goes into his great cabin and

1832
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:51,560
gets ambushed by a guy who tries
to stab him but fails. 

1833
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:56,160
And that just kind of kind of 
like slowly, shamefully retreats

1834
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:58,360
back down like. 
Back into. 

1835
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:02,280
His yeah, like, like, I mean, I 
mean, Russell grows a fucking 

1836
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:04,400
unit, right, Isn't he? 
I don't mean he's playing 

1837
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:07,840
character who's a unit, who's 
like, you know, I mean, yeah, 

1838
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:09,760
you would. 
You're fool. 

1839
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,080
Save myself out now. 
Awkward. 

1840
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:15,280
Yeah, yeah. 
And he's like, do the 

1841
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:17,920
inferiority. 
So he goes to the he goes to the

1842
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:20,760
ship's Infirmary and you see 
what appears to be the doctor 

1843
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:24,240
just finishing up confirming the
death of what appears to be the 

1844
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:26,200
captain, because he's got he's 
got a coat and everything on. 

1845
01:31:26,480 --> 01:31:30,320
And then he says to to to Jack 
Aubrey like he just died, but he

1846
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:32,280
wants you to have this. 
And he hands the sword over, 

1847
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:34,680
surrenders the ship. 
So then you think that's the end

1848
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:36,120
of it. 
Cool, he says. 

1849
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:43,440
So then Aubrey basically nuclear
rates pullings up to to master 

1850
01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:45,600
and commander and says like 
you're going to, you're going to

1851
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:49,480
take the ship back to Valparaiso
to middle port in Chile. 

1852
01:31:49,480 --> 01:31:51,680
And we'll offer the prisoners 
and fix her up and we'll 

1853
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:54,320
rendezvous in in Portsmouth. 
And I will take the surprise 

1854
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:58,280
back to the Galapagos to be nice
to my pal and all that kind of 

1855
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:00,800
stuff. 
It's only when they're tuning up

1856
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:03,920
to do another jam session in the
great cabin of the surprise that

1857
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:08,080
Maturin tells them that Doctor 
Devin the front died of fever 

1858
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:11,400
several several months ago. 
And that the French captain that

1859
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:14,000
they thought it was killed was 
actually the guy pretending to 

1860
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:16,080
be the doctor. 
So that obviously there's like 

1861
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:18,280
the captured, the friendship is 
one of the is among the 

1862
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:20,640
prisoners and we'll probably be 
trying to plot against a captain

1863
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:22,360
pulling to retake the ship kind 
of stuff. 

1864
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:25,400
So he's like going to have to go
and catch up with a Valparais, 

1865
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,920
catch up with the Akron and 
escort her into Valparaiso as he

1866
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:32,440
calls down for Mr Moet and tells
him change of course side by 

1867
01:32:32,440 --> 01:32:35,640
side W will be going to 
Valparaiso and 01 more thing 

1868
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:39,840
beat the quarters and then 
absolute bang and Neil drop 

1869
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:43,560
comes on as they start. 
Yeah, as they start playing that

1870
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:47,120
bit of Boccarini and we got a 
beautiful sequence where that's 

1871
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:49,720
playing and then you see the 
piece of what's happening like 

1872
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:52,640
silently you get. 
And it's really, it's wonderful 

1873
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:54,520
to see the contrast with like 
this really jaunty music and the

1874
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:57,920
the drums drumming and ship 
turning around and oh, it's so 

1875
01:32:57,920 --> 01:32:59,240
good, it's so good. 
Epic. 

1876
01:32:59,920 --> 01:33:01,440
And then? 
You forgot what one of the 

1877
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:03,080
quotes of the film there. 
Correct, bro. 

1878
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:04,160
Yeah, go into it. 
I know. 

1879
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:07,120
I know what you're here to say. 
So there's this because of the 

1880
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:10,360
Galapagos thing, there's this 
ongoing thing between between 

1881
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:14,920
Jack and Maturin about him 
really wanting to to find the 

1882
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,200
flightless albatross that he's 
seen there. 

1883
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:21,680
And that bird's the main reason 
he's always upset that he's not 

1884
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:24,000
getting his playtime on the 
island. 

1885
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:27,040
And the final sequence Jack 
looks at just looks at him like 

1886
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:32,160
Stephen. 
But yes, it's flight lit 

1887
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:34,240
flightless, isn't it? 
Yes. 

1888
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:45,680
Well, it's not going anywhere. 
Perfect. 

1889
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:46,840
Yeah. 
And that is the end of the 

1890
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:48,800
movie. 
Absolutely incredible. 

1891
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:51,080
Leaves on a little miniature 
cliffing up, but you know 

1892
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:54,640
they're going to be victorious. 
It's just lads on adventure. 

1893
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:58,600
They should have made like, 
right, final impressions more of

1894
01:33:58,680 --> 01:33:59,960
these. 
They should have made 15 more of

1895
01:33:59,960 --> 01:34:02,320
these. 
Usually This should have been he

1896
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:04,880
should they should be making one
that should be they should be 

1897
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:08,600
making the 10th 1 now. 
And Russell crew should be like 

1898
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:12,040
a Commodore and like captain 
pulling should be like a captain

1899
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:14,800
of the ship and oh man, this 
should have run four home lover 

1900
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:19,840
these It should be films of all 
these and it's it's a travesty 

1901
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:24,760
crime that there aren't good 
good. 

1902
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:28,000
I've just it just pisses me off 
that this film is so amazing. 

1903
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:30,960
It's so great. 
Are we always doing prequels 

1904
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:35,280
with the same actors who have 
820 years, 20 years later 

1905
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:37,640
though? 
That's like, no, just do a 

1906
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:40,560
sequel. 
But yeah, but my, my, my point 

1907
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:43,120
is, is that we've got like 
fucking 200 Marvel fucking 

1908
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:45,320
Cinematic Universe films, which 
are all a bit shit. 

1909
01:34:45,480 --> 01:34:47,760
And like one of these, that's 
what annoys me. 

1910
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:50,480
I don't really see fucking Iron 
Man in 10 films. 

1911
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:53,040
I do want to see Jack Aubrey. 
And do you? 

1912
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:56,040
Do you think that maybe Midship 
and Holland will return in 

1913
01:34:56,040 --> 01:35:01,880
Avengers Doomsday? 
But somehow the Jonah returned. 

1914
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:04,640
That's obviously mean. 
I'm going to cut on our socials 

1915
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:08,600
in the next. 
Ray. 

1916
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:10,120
Ray. 
Hollom. 

1917
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:15,720
Fucking hell, that's gold. 
That's gold, Jerry. 

1918
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:18,520
Captain Pullings will return, I 
love it. 

1919
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:20,840
The chip and Blakely will return
a. 

1920
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:25,480
Fucking a fucking post credit 
sequence when when fucking 

1921
01:35:25,480 --> 01:35:29,400
Aquaman just grabs on a holler 
but just like pulls up a safety.

1922
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:31,200
Like a hand plunges down and 
puts. 

1923
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:34,320
About and like, the camera cuts 
up and it's Aquaman and he's 

1924
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:37,000
just like, yeah, I got to work 
for you yet. 

1925
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:40,560
But boy, oh. 
My God, you ask for Sea for 

1926
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:42,400
Mercy? 
That's still a hard fucking line

1927
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:46,560
from the Aquaman film though. 
Yeah, I I want a sequel of Lucky

1928
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:48,000
Jack burning down the White 
House. 

1929
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:52,200
Fuck yeah. 
Or, yeah, connecting some 

1930
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,840
attempts at renovations, as the 
King said this week. 

1931
01:35:55,120 --> 01:36:01,440
Yes, well, we brought you a bell
for like no reason. 

1932
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:05,160
A bell Bell from HRS Trump. 
You Bell and. 

1933
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:07,520
Did I mention that all my family
were in the role? 

1934
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:08,960
They've in the role that he 
actually kicks ass. 

1935
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:13,440
Love that. 
Look at you present bone spurs, 

1936
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:15,480
right? 
Guys, this is one of my 

1937
01:36:15,480 --> 01:36:17,880
favourite films of all time, 
which obviously talks about in 

1938
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:21,440
great detail, so my feelings are
pretty unambiguous. 

1939
01:36:21,440 --> 01:36:23,640
Final impressions though, before
we get into categories. 

1940
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:28,080
San Diego and 1st San is first 
on the enemy ship's deck with 

1941
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:32,000
five pistols on them. 
And a sword. 

1942
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:35,200
And fucking and fucking 10 pints
of grog in them as well as 2 

1943
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:36,400
STDs. 
You got my sword. 

1944
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:37,680
I'll get my sword. 
I'll tell you what, I'll get my 

1945
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:40,000
sword. 
Yes, swords time. 

1946
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:41,600
Rory, where are your flintlocks?
I. 

1947
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:46,240
Don't have any? 
You have from Flintsburg. 

1948
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:48,480
They're not flintlocks, they're 
cup and ball. 

1949
01:36:49,440 --> 01:36:52,440
Close enough. 
There's somewhere I took them 

1950
01:36:52,440 --> 01:36:54,400
off the wall when I thought I 
was going to be getting a police

1951
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:56,120
visit in case looked a bit too 
worried. 

1952
01:36:57,200 --> 01:36:58,880
OK, there. 
There's obviously podcaster and 

1953
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:00,560
audio medium, so I just got up 
and got my sword. 

1954
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:02,880
There we go. 
Nice. 

1955
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:06,120
What a nice So we're all in 
costume now. 

1956
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:07,880
Two out of three of us have 
swords. 

1957
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:10,160
Two out of three of us have 
silly ads. 

1958
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:11,920
Perfect. 
There we go. 

1959
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:17,560
What what's my final impression?
I just love the damn thing, to 

1960
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:19,640
be honest. 
It's, it's so much, it's 

1961
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:21,960
everything. 
It's the it's visually stunning.

1962
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:26,280
The amount of detail is amazing.
Every, every shot of inside the 

1963
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:29,200
ship really gives you that, that
cramped feeling. 

1964
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:33,040
The whole, the whole vibe of 
being on a ship of the period. 

1965
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:36,520
Every outside shot looks like 
historical painting of a, of a 

1966
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:38,880
naval battle. 
It's, it's just amazing. 

1967
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:43,160
I think it was unfairly treated 
by critics at the time, really 

1968
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:47,720
suffered from coming out during 
a period of generally great 

1969
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:49,600
films. 
That's true. 

1970
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:51,080
It was it was a little good 
stuff happening at the same 

1971
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:53,240
time. 
It's obviously happening in and 

1972
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:56,120
around The Lord of the Rings, 
which was taken away by some 

1973
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:58,400
both in the box office and and 
in awards. 

1974
01:37:58,440 --> 01:38:01,080
I think this came not too long 
after. 

1975
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:04,000
Obviously A Beautiful Mind we 
talked about at the beginning, 

1976
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:06,920
but also like Gladiator and I 
think there was some baggage 

1977
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:10,880
there for what we expected a 
Russell Crowe film to be, which 

1978
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:13,320
this doesn't quite conform to 
because he's doing a different 

1979
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:15,640
voice and he's doing the I 
remember a lot of press at the 

1980
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:17,800
time about the the violin 
lessons that he took and all 

1981
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,720
that kind of stuff. 
And think I think this film is 

1982
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:23,400
it's chuckle of action and it 
just barrowed along like I 

1983
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:25,160
mentioned. 
But because it's like the one or

1984
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:28,040
two moments of quietness, 
because the subject matter is 

1985
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:31,520
the age of sail, I think people 
just weren't ready for it. 

1986
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:33,720
Pirates of the Caribbean? 
Sort of, yeah. 

1987
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:35,640
Yeah, I think. 
I'd. 

1988
01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:39,920
Say it's the same year as well. 
Yeah, Yeah, that's true. 

1989
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:42,680
So you have, you have a very 
sombre film and you've got a 

1990
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:43,880
very funny film. 
Yeah. 

1991
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:46,240
You've got, yeah, you've got one
film that's based on a fucking 

1992
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:51,240
Disney ride, Yeah. 
Which, which in itself is really

1993
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:56,040
similar to, like, Monkey Island.
Young guy wants to be a pirate 

1994
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:58,080
and falls enough for the posh 
English girl. 

1995
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,200
I guess it gets mixed up with 
funny pirates kind of thing. 

1996
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:04,440
And then you've got, yeah, this 
film, which is painstakingly 

1997
01:39:04,440 --> 01:39:07,880
researched, full of heart, very,
very dense source material. 

1998
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:10,080
I think another thing about this
film is that it's hard to get 

1999
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:12,160
into for some people because the
books are quite hard to get 

2000
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:13,440
into. 
They've got quite a high buyer 

2001
01:39:13,440 --> 01:39:15,600
of entry. 
I think I've bounced off the 

2002
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:19,920
books a couple of times because 
there's a section that goes into

2003
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:22,760
grave detail about like how how 
the masks are rigged and stuff, 

2004
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:25,400
which is fine. 
I've done I've done sailing on a

2005
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:27,880
on a sailing like a 44 masted 
bark before. 

2006
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:31,000
I've done sailing at sea like 
this, But even I was like, yeah,

2007
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:33,040
OK, this is like getting a 
little bussment holiday. 

2008
01:39:33,480 --> 01:39:35,560
I need to like. 
So I think the average person 

2009
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:38,960
who was expecting to be like 
Gladiator, which kind of plays 

2010
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:41,800
it being historically accurate, 
but actually is just an action 

2011
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:45,080
film is a different vibe. 
Personal. 

2012
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:48,240
That's my my hot penneth. 
For me, this film was an 

2013
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:49,640
absolute joy. 
That was amazing. 

2014
01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:54,040
As far as re watches for films 
for the pod go, I watched this 

2015
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:58,240
immediately before I sat down in
my kitchen and started recording

2016
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:00,800
this episode. 
And honestly man, I'm still 

2017
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:02,760
riding a high from it. 
I'm still riding a high. 

2018
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:06,520
Emma wasn't fortunate enough to 
witness me watching the 1st 

2019
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,080
about 30 minutes of the film 
before she then went and did 

2020
01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:11,160
literally anything else. 
And I'm literally like putting 

2021
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:14,120
my hands up with my fists 
clenched like shouting out the 

2022
01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:17,240
words on the screen. 
Oceans are now battlefields, you

2023
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:18,960
know. 
We do some categories. 

2024
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:17,760
Yeah, I pull up some stuff from 
casting, so let me just open up 

2025
01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:21,440
my notes here. 
The first thing. 

2026
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:25,800
If I would speak, let's open up 
my notes matey. 

2027
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:30,040
Well, put up the WhatsApp that I
sent Besaft messages to. 

2028
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:34,640
So yeah, casting. 
The first thing I looked up was 

2029
01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:38,800
trying to find out who was also 
considered for the Jack Aubrey 

2030
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:40,200
role. 
I didn't seem to find much 

2031
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:43,600
online about that, but right, 
there's been some discourse 

2032
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:46,280
online about who people would 
cast as the character now. 

2033
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:50,600
Like enough to make this shit 
pop up on the Google AI summary 

2034
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:52,800
that's ruining everyone's 
searches at the moment. 

2035
01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:55,760
So Google's fucking scraped the 
Internet and found out. 

2036
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:59,960
Like the fan casting decisions 
for for like a remake or a 

2037
01:41:59,960 --> 01:42:02,320
sequel. 
This is kind of fucking mad. 

2038
01:42:02,440 --> 01:42:05,680
People have suggested Chris 
Hemsworth, frequently suggested 

2039
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:09,280
by fans, is a modern choice for 
a scruffed up Jack Aubrey. 

2040
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:12,960
A big sigh from Mike there. 
A big sigh from Mike. 

2041
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:16,400
Well, I think that's coming from
because he was, he was in that 

2042
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:20,240
Rob Ron Howers film In the Heart
of the Sea. 

2043
01:42:20,440 --> 01:42:22,520
Yeah, where he played a slovenly
whaler. 

2044
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:26,240
So I wonder if that's where 
that's coming from, maybe. 

2045
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:28,960
And his and and his blonde and 
his Australian. 

2046
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:32,240
Yeah, this one will make you 
even more angry. 

2047
01:42:32,440 --> 01:42:36,000
Chris Pratt. 
Oh he can fuck wipes off Jesus. 

2048
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:37,520
My question. 
He's got he's got no business 

2049
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:40,480
touching into the role movie. 
And he'll go right sighted for 

2050
01:42:40,480 --> 01:42:45,360
his ability to handle both 
action and comedic fratty rules 

2051
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:48,880
with the capacity to show the 
necessary physical bulk. 

2052
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:53,880
God all mighty. 
Fratty rules. 

2053
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:55,960
Fratty rules like he's a frat 
boy. 

2054
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:58,640
He's a flake. 
Say that man up, jug up your car

2055
01:42:58,640 --> 01:43:01,120
for chi or whatever. 
Fuck you I. 

2056
01:43:02,480 --> 01:43:06,720
Hate that? 
Gerard Butler, yeah, mentioned. 

2057
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:08,720
He's not, he's not, he's not the
worst one. 

2058
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:11,040
But yeah, but I mean, he's 
Quander, a submarine before he 

2059
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:12,960
punched out his office, All 
right, punched out with CEO. 

2060
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:15,080
He's not a great. 
Actor in. 

2061
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:19,320
Mind mentioned as a possibility,
provided he could Buster the 

2062
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:23,040
accent that's fucking shit on 
Gerard Butler, a professional 

2063
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:25,640
actor, Provided he could, you 
know, a bastard of posh English 

2064
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:29,320
accent, you know? 
Yeah, provided to. 

2065
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:35,040
Come on, someone suggested 
Charlie Hunnam. 

2066
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:39,040
Wow, OK, yeah, this, this, I 
always think, I always think of 

2067
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:41,080
that video of Charlie Hunnam 
where he's talking about how he 

2068
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:46,480
got, he was outside the gate in 
Newcastle and he gets A and he 

2069
01:43:46,480 --> 01:43:49,400
gets accosted by like a bunch of
young lads because he's he's cut

2070
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:54,040
about, he's got a beard and he 
he thinks he's been recognised. 

2071
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:56,600
They're like, how are you an 
actor? 

2072
01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:59,360
He's like, Oh yeah, I am 
actually, yeah, I've just been 

2073
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:01,560
filming. 
He's like dandal for fucking 

2074
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:03,560
Wizards. 
You're beautiful and cunts. 

2075
01:44:05,440 --> 01:44:07,520
That's fucking amazing, man. 
That's so good. 

2076
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:11,760
And the explanation of why 
people pick Charlie Hunnam. 

2077
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:14,680
It's just suggested in community
casting discussions. 

2078
01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:19,240
There's like, no, no, like kind 
of kind of argument put from how

2079
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:23,720
old Charlie Hunnam Henry Cavill 
mentioned as a potential fit. 

2080
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:26,480
But not the worst. 
Not not the worst. 

2081
01:44:27,440 --> 01:44:29,960
Alexander Skarsgard. 
No. 

2082
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:35,320
Mentioned provided he could I 
quote thicken up for the role. 

2083
01:44:36,440 --> 01:44:39,720
Hey, Henry, hey, hey, hey, hey, 
Alexander. 

2084
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:42,360
You got to get fat, dude. 
You got to start food. 

2085
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:45,400
Maxim, you got a bulk. 
It's bulk in season. 

2086
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:48,320
Again, the basis on the fact 
that he's played a Mariner 

2087
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:50,360
before in the Northman. 
Yeah, this is wild. 

2088
01:44:50,440 --> 01:44:54,600
Alan Richardson, Reacher. 
Come on man, be serious. 

2089
01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:58,960
Noted for the guy, but. 
Noted for his physical stature 

2090
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:02,920
as a match for the quote. 
Absolute unit description. 

2091
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:04,920
Yeah, but I just. 
Yeah, no. 

2092
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:08,520
No having Bistrom X-Men. 
I mean, I mean, he's too 

2093
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:10,400
massive, he's too gigantic, 
that's the thing. 

2094
01:45:10,440 --> 01:45:12,360
But he'd be bringing his head on
things. 

2095
01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:14,560
All the time motorcycle at the 
Akron. 

2096
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:18,720
It's like he just does like the 
boarding action himself. 

2097
01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:22,520
Snaps the the mast by hand and 
uses a weapon. 

2098
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:24,680
He just jumps on the deck with a
Desert Eagle. 

2099
01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:26,840
No one tells Alan Richardson he 
can't even know it's 

2100
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:29,640
anachronistic because he'll just
dog walk him in front of the 

2101
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:32,040
children and get it all on his 
GoPro. 

2102
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:35,840
And finally, Sean Bean mentioned
particularly for a potential 

2103
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:38,640
role in a story featuring a more
sombre Aubrey. 

2104
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:40,880
Presumably he dies at some point
as well That. 

2105
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:44,600
That'd be such a weird bit of a 
because he's obviously sharp, 

2106
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:47,440
right? 
And Boromir, but sharp? 

2107
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:49,680
If he says the word Napoleon or 
Bony. 

2108
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:50,880
Yeah. 
And he's not. 

2109
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:52,800
And he's not Richard Sharp. 
Something's wrong. 

2110
01:45:52,800 --> 01:46:01,120
Sometimes something's wrong and 
it's like so going on to actual 

2111
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:03,440
casting now, people who really 
did have the job in the film. 

2112
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:08,200
Russell Crowe currently got a 
lot of stuff in pre production, 

2113
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:15,480
a film called You and Obama. 
He's got the billion dollar spy.

2114
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:18,080
He's playing Ramirez in 
Highlander. 

2115
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:20,960
So he's taking the Sean Connery 
role for Highlander playing 

2116
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:24,640
Ramirez. 
So another inexplicably Spanish 

2117
01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:27,840
named ancient Egyptian immortal 
with the Cortana. 

2118
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:29,600
Awesome. 
A fucking love Highlander. 

2119
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:31,600
And that's not the only 
Highlander link we'll have to 

2120
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:33,440
this show this this film by the 
way. 

2121
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:36,800
So is that a he's not a creative
gun in the 70s that I didn't 

2122
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:39,520
realise he was that kind of get 
getting stuff on film that 

2123
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:41,320
early. 
He was in a show called Spy 

2124
01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:44,800
Force, an Australian TV series 
about Australian intelligence 

2125
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:47,520
officers during World War 2 
playing a character called 

2126
01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:50,200
Orphan. 
So that's like 6 decades he's 

2127
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:51,760
covered. 
We need to find that. 

2128
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:55,080
We need to find spy force, man. 
We need to find spy force. 

2129
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:56,480
This. 
This actually sounds class. 

2130
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:01,320
I think he's the first of our 
guys with the WWE credit. 

2131
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:06,600
He was in WrestleMania 39. 
He's credited as playing 

2132
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:10,120
Gabriel, the Pope's exorcist. 
Amorph or Amorph? 

2133
01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:12,600
I've never seen the film A 
daughter, how it's pronounced in

2134
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:14,920
WrestleMania. 
So you only assume he comes in 

2135
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:18,000
and Kfab exercises some demons 
out of fucking? 

2136
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:19,560
Yeah. 
Yeah, you cannot. 

2137
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:21,480
Think that's like recently. 
That's like a. 

2138
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:25,080
Yeah, yeah, 2023 was 
WrestleMania 39. 

2139
01:47:25,480 --> 01:47:29,040
Incredible right? 
So well, that's sort of oddball 

2140
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:30,640
stuff. 
Our our guys. 

2141
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:34,080
He was Henry Jackal in the Mummy
2017. 

2142
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:37,440
Do you think we were hard done 
by by the end of the dark 

2143
01:47:37,440 --> 01:47:39,920
universe before we began? 
Or do you think we're ready for 

2144
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:42,520
the Dark Universe to make a? 
I've been over the years 

2145
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:46,680
listening to a podcast about 
this very subject, Julian 

2146
01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:49,400
Dalton's The Dark Universe Pod. 
I think it's got a new name now.

2147
01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:50,240
Oh. 
My God. 

2148
01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:53,200
Because they've, they've 
broadened their Nets, but they 

2149
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:55,400
had a whole podcast where they 
went through like every film in 

2150
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:58,920
the dark Universe and also wrote
some new ones and then wrote 

2151
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:01,480
their own kind of like basically
carried on the universe as if it

2152
01:48:01,480 --> 01:48:03,120
should be where they got every 
single like. 

2153
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:05,240
So they started by talking about
the money, right? 

2154
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:08,720
And then after that they like 
wrote their own version of like 

2155
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:09,960
the Creature from the Blue Black
Lagoon. 

2156
01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:12,760
And then they wrote their own 
version of like Dracula and 

2157
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:15,720
their own version like 
Frankenstein and all that kind 

2158
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:16,680
of stuff. 
And they made like a big 

2159
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:19,000
Avengers Assemble kind of movie 
with all of them in. 

2160
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:20,800
It was incredible. 
It's actually a really good 

2161
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:22,640
podcast. 
Oh man, I'm just not listening 

2162
01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:23,280
to that. 
And you find it. 

2163
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:24,520
That's actually fucking really 
cool. 

2164
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:27,040
Shout out of that podcast. 
I'm actually, I'm actually 

2165
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:29,000
mentioned of one of the episodes
because I wrote into it. 

2166
01:48:29,440 --> 01:48:31,320
That is. 
Yeah, hell yeah. 

2167
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:33,400
It's so good. 
Yeah, I'll put a link to that on

2168
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:34,640
on on this pod. 
Definitely. 

2169
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:39,040
It's so good, really good post. 
But of course the guy one of the

2170
01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:42,560
guys who runs it, sorry, the 
guys who run it so so one of the

2171
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:44,760
guys who runs it is a guy called
Dalton Deshane. 

2172
01:48:45,440 --> 01:48:48,520
He also does music and he has a 
he has a band, a game, which 

2173
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:50,440
I'll link to. 
But the other band that he has 

2174
01:48:50,440 --> 01:48:53,880
is as a side project is a band 
called the B60 Nines where they 

2175
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:57,680
do covers of modern pop songs in
the style of the B50 twos. 

2176
01:48:57,680 --> 01:49:00,760
And their cover of WAP is just 
one of the greatest business of 

2177
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:01,440
music ever made. 
I. 

2178
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:06,720
Hate how cool this guy is. 
I hate how cool those guys did. 

2179
01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:09,520
You know I mean scores. 
Russell Crowe was in Rumba 

2180
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:12,960
Stumba, which if if you were a 
teenage edge Lord in the 90s 

2181
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:15,320
you'd do them from that. 
I was. 

2182
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:18,720
He had 4 episodes run in 
Neighbours. 

2183
01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:22,080
Do you want to hear the tale of 
Kenny Larkin? 

2184
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:23,960
We've lost, right? 
But I'll explain to you what 

2185
01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:27,160
Neighbours is in the meantime. 
So like for, for anyone who's 

2186
01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:31,160
not Australian or British, it's 
an Australian soap opera that 

2187
01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:35,480
run like twice a day here. 
And I get you on at lunchtime 

2188
01:49:35,480 --> 01:49:37,880
and I get you in the evening as 
well every every weekday. 

2189
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:42,080
And it follows the exploits of 
Bush people who all live on 

2190
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:45,880
Ramsey Street, which is a 
cul-de-sac in a suburb outside 

2191
01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:50,880
of Sydney basically. 
And yeah, there's like a small, 

2192
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:53,400
there's like a, a cafe and a 
bar. 

2193
01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:55,280
And there's like a local 
businessman called Paul 

2194
01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:56,760
Robbinson, who's a bit of a bad 
guy. 

2195
01:49:56,760 --> 01:50:00,000
And there's like that old fella 
called Harold Bishop who plays 

2196
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:01,880
the Tube and his wife Madge and 
stuff. 

2197
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:06,640
And there's like a local family 
doctor called Doctor Carl 

2198
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:09,000
Kennedy and his wife and his 
three kids. 

2199
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:13,320
And this show had like tonnes of
people who would then go on to 

2200
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:16,520
become really, really famous. 
So like, Kylie Minogue was, it 

2201
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:19,840
was in it at the beginning. 
Guy Pearce was in it. 

2202
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:23,720
People who are still thinking 
it's not Holly Valance who was 

2203
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:26,960
in Taken was in it. 
Margot Robbie was in it. 

2204
01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:31,400
Yeah, just big long list of 
anyone who's famous, who's 

2205
01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:32,080
coming. 
Australia. 

2206
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:37,120
Jesse Spencer, who played Billy 
Kennedy in it is like was the 

2207
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:40,120
main character in all the 
Chicago Fire stuff and was in 

2208
01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:44,120
house, MD Yeah, like those lives
in the school who would get 

2209
01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:46,080
various lives of fame. 
Yeah, but for some reason it was

2210
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:48,920
like massive in the UK and 
Australia and nowhere else. 

2211
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:50,800
Hey, guys. 
The return of. 

2212
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:51,840
The what? 
Welcome back. 

2213
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:54,600
I just explained to Sonia what 
Neighbours was in the interim. 

2214
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:58,520
So he plays a guy called Kenny 
Larkin who is an ex-con and is a

2215
01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:02,880
friend of guy called Henry. 
So this is copied from a a 

2216
01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:07,280
neighbours kind of open source 
wiki type thing that I found. 

2217
01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:09,600
So the grandma's a bit fucked 
and it doesn't all fully make 

2218
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:13,840
sense but Henry turned up in 
1987 and comes to the local pub.

2219
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:16,960
The water hole at lasted us 
where Madge Ramsey and Henry 

2220
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:19,240
work. 
Madge's boss, Paul Robinson 

2221
01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:22,160
accuses her of theft after Henry
pays for a round of drink with a

2222
01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:25,400
$50.00 bill and Kenny claims to 
paid for the second round with 

2223
01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:28,440
another $50.00 bill. 
Marge cheques the till and finds

2224
01:51:28,440 --> 01:51:32,120
only $150.00 note. 
Henrys and Kenny proves he's 

2225
01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:35,360
given our $50 by reciting the 
last three digits on the note. 

2226
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:39,200
Paul fails Marge, I don't 
understand why, and Henry 

2227
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:43,040
accuses them of running a scam. 
Henry becomes determined to 

2228
01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:45,560
prove his and his mother's 
innocence and tracks down 

2229
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:48,480
Kenny's sister BB. 
That's that's that's her name. 

2230
01:51:48,480 --> 01:51:51,640
Like Paul Baron, who reveals 
that Kenny pulled cash scams on 

2231
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:54,480
a regular basis. 
They tell Paul, who reinstates 

2232
01:51:54,480 --> 01:51:57,120
Madge and Henry. 
When Kenny begins informing 

2233
01:51:57,120 --> 01:52:00,160
Henry's customers about his 
criminal past and revenge, the 

2234
01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:04,200
two men fight and Paul Robinson 
bars Kenny from Lassetas 

2235
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:07,080
permanently. 
Kenny then leaves the area, 

2236
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:10,880
never to be seen again. 
He got taken to the fucking 

2237
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:15,960
train station. 
More customs. 

2238
01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:19,880
We've got a Paul Vision Battany.
You know IMDb says that. 

2239
01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:23,040
So the like, you know, the IMDb 
known for section. 

2240
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:25,280
Yeah, yeah. 
No one for one division. 

2241
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:28,560
That's all it says about. 
He's no one to wear more than 

2242
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:31,440
fucking one division. 
I mean, you're you. 

2243
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:33,800
So was one last week on the 
Davinci code. 

2244
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:39,880
Yeah, Eve Lee Ingleby Holland 
fucking everything up Harlem, 

2245
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:43,680
God bless him. 
DCS Neil Adamson in the hunt for

2246
01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:47,720
Raul boat like a Hollab hunting 
for Raul boat like him, him 

2247
01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:51,360
doing it as Harlem just fucking 
up constantly and everybody on 

2248
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:54,120
like the search part is just 
like he's had us walking around 

2249
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:55,960
in circles. 
He's a Jordan. 

2250
01:52:56,040 --> 01:53:00,480
He did 120. 
On the submission of realm you, 

2251
01:53:00,480 --> 01:53:02,920
you were in the Brockwell that 
time when the quiz master asked 

2252
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:05,280
the question where the answer. 
It was the name of the policeman

2253
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:08,080
who who got shot by him and then
his son was in the pub at the 

2254
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:10,000
time. 
No, but holy shit. 

2255
01:53:10,920 --> 01:53:15,200
Yeah, I think spend that deal of
a time just to tease that and 

2256
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:20,120
then move on. 
Jesus hyper hyper local, 

2257
01:53:20,120 --> 01:53:25,480
crumbling and drama mentioned 
125 episodes of Bob the Builder 

2258
01:53:25,480 --> 01:53:27,000
we're. 
Going to say line of duty next 

2259
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:28,720
because he was in, he was in 
that, wasn't he Lingleby? 

2260
01:53:29,120 --> 01:53:31,600
Yeah, yeah, He plays bubble 
build as dad. 

2261
01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:35,520
He had 25 episode run of 
Inspector George Gently as Diaz,

2262
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:38,120
John Backus, Chris Lock and 
playing Captain Trigger 

2263
01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:39,600
Discipline, Howard Royal 
Marines. 

2264
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:46,680
He did 3 episodes of Doctors, 
the daytime medical soap opera 

2265
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:49,480
that ran for like a million 
years on British TV. 

2266
01:53:49,480 --> 01:53:54,120
Doctors, Doctors Doctors Doctors
Doctors as it's title card ran 

2267
01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:57,360
over a 10 year period playing 
three separate characters. 

2268
01:53:57,360 --> 01:54:01,120
So it's not just American 
syndicated TV shows of like the 

2269
01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:05,040
1970s, early 90s who do it. 
This guy beat Edward Roxburgh, 

2270
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:08,080
Father Sebastian Wood and 
Richard Waters I think. 

2271
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:10,560
Doctors is one of those shows 
that it was like a a bit of a 

2272
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:13,480
lifeblood of the British film 
and TV industry and that it was 

2273
01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:16,920
a proving ground for a lot of 
crew members and actors to to 

2274
01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:20,080
cut their teeth in their trade 
and then and then move on over 

2275
01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:22,160
other things. 
So it's a, it was a bit of a 

2276
01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:23,400
size. 
It was a shame in that that show

2277
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:25,400
got cancelled. 
Yeah, yeah, it was definitely a 

2278
01:54:25,440 --> 01:54:27,360
good like a jumping off point 
for a lot of actors. 

2279
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:31,600
If you would need an insane deep
dive into about, there's quite a

2280
01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:33,840
few actors who've been in films 
that we've enjoyed. 

2281
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:36,520
We've got like early starts and 
like he's had a lot of crew as 

2282
01:54:36,520 --> 01:54:39,040
well, a lot like, you know, 
cinematographers, directors 

2283
01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:41,000
sound. 
I kind of think who, who starts 

2284
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:43,840
and doctors, doctors, doctors, 
doctors, doctors, doctors. 

2285
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:48,280
Umm, he was in Black Sails. 
Oh nice. 

2286
01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:50,080
Good. 
Yeah, He had, I think a one 

2287
01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:52,320
episode spot in Endeavour. 
Again, fantastic. 

2288
01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:56,480
And I know he's the first of our
guys to have been in an episode 

2289
01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:58,080
of the Highlander TV series 
have. 

2290
01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:00,160
You seen the onset? 
That was from the new film with 

2291
01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:01,280
Henry Cavill. 
Tell me. 

2292
01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:02,560
Yeah, it looks good. 
It looks good. 

2293
01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:05,760
It looks good. 
Yeah, Mr Higgins, the surgeon's 

2294
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:10,920
mate, this guy Thriller Max is 
to an extent Eye in the Sky, 

2295
01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:14,320
which is 1. 
I knew off top of doing Constant

2296
01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:16,680
Gardner. 
Constant Gardner he was, he 

2297
01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:19,600
flexed his British actor of a 
certain era credentials in 

2298
01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:22,920
Notting Hill back in 1999. 
He was in an episode of Spooks 

2299
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:27,200
and he was in an unaired Game of
Thrones prequel Pilots. 

2300
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:29,760
Yeah, OK. 
I can see that. 

2301
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:34,360
Set set set 5000 years before 
the events depicted in the 

2302
01:55:34,360 --> 01:55:36,320
series. 
That's a fucking stretch. 

2303
01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:40,360
So that so the so the people of 
the however many kingdoms it is.

2304
01:55:41,480 --> 01:55:43,400
7 king as well. 
That's old Valeria isn't it? 

2305
01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:46,240
Before the fall of the area. 
So people are riding Dragons and

2306
01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:47,800
shit and the city isn't in 
Romans? 

2307
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:50,520
That whole area. 
So with that man, yeah, kind of 

2308
01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:51,800
work I guess wouldn't. 
You know where? 

2309
01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:56,000
It's all Dragons and shit, yeah.
Do you remember when Jesus 

2310
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:58,320
Christ, Game of Thrones come, if
we talk about this, do you 

2311
01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:01,560
remember when Sidora gets the 
great Sidora played by Ian 

2312
01:56:01,560 --> 01:56:04,120
Glenn, gets to the grey scale 
because they've gone to that 

2313
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:06,560
that continent where it's all 
just jungle and horrible now. 

2314
01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:08,480
Yeah, And it's been taken away 
play. 

2315
01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:12,040
It's that part of the world 
which was like a thriving 

2316
01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:14,120
civilization. 
It's the old Valeria. 

2317
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:15,320
So like. 
I. 

2318
01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:18,480
Guess Game of Thrones is a bit 
more kind of post apocalyptic 

2319
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:20,160
than I can give credit for, 
right? 

2320
01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:21,920
I mean. 
In the way that, like, Adventure

2321
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:25,600
Time is, yeah. 
Yeah, yeah, fucking amazing, 

2322
01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:28,600
man. 
Blakeney, Max Perkis, this guy 

2323
01:56:28,600 --> 01:56:32,440
is now big time involved in 
worldwide sales for movies. 

2324
01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:37,120
He's he's big time industry. 
He's got loads of sales work. 

2325
01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:39,160
He's got a fair bit of a source 
to produce our work. 

2326
01:56:39,720 --> 01:56:43,160
IMDb still says he lives at home
with his parents and he's like 

2327
01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:45,360
in his leg late 20s now. 
So fuck yeah. 

2328
01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:47,200
You know, be a stay at home son.
I love it. 

2329
01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:50,800
He's born in 1989. 
He's he's in his 30s. 

2330
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:52,480
Yeah, He's not. 
He's not living in Jesus. 

2331
01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:55,320
He's late 30s. 
Late so so I'm Debbie says he 

2332
01:56:55,320 --> 01:56:58,560
still lives with his parents. 
So if so, hats off to our stay 

2333
01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:00,720
at home sons out there. 
They're doing the gods work by 

2334
01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:03,480
Muchen, Muchen and Lofen. 
Part of the production of The 

2335
01:57:03,480 --> 01:57:06,360
Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. 
Yeah, Father and the wife. 

2336
01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:09,480
He was He was in the TV show 
Rome. 

2337
01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:15,520
He played Dyess Octavian for 13 
episodes, then he did a film 

2338
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:18,320
called The Quiet Ones, then a 
film called Racing Hearts, and 

2339
01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:22,600
they just dipped out of being in
films completely nearly 10 years

2340
01:57:22,600 --> 01:57:24,440
ago. 
We've talked about the killer 

2341
01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:27,880
already, David Throwfall, his 
work as Frank Gallagher, 

2342
01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:31,920
obviously fucking iconic British
TVI haven't watched the American

2343
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:35,200
version of Shameless. 
Kind of don't want to, don't 

2344
01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:37,440
want a chancellor. 
I thought it's pretty good. 

2345
01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:40,200
I mean, it's really good with 
that's good Bill Messi and 

2346
01:57:41,080 --> 01:57:42,600
what's his name, Jeremy Allen 
White and that. 

2347
01:57:42,600 --> 01:57:44,840
That's excellent actually. 
Thanks man, because I was 

2348
01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:46,640
worried. 
I mean, I'm I'm attracting an 

2349
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:50,240
holy, but also he he Thriller 
maxed in Patriot Games, 

2350
01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:52,200
Inspector Highland and Patriot 
Games. 

2351
01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:54,360
Yes, that's right. 
Yes, I do remember that. 

2352
01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:57,640
No, I guess, but we'll look over
it in due course, I'm sure. 

2353
01:57:57,640 --> 01:57:58,880
But I don't think it ends well 
for. 

2354
01:57:58,880 --> 01:58:05,520
Him he did 6 episodes in the 
season 4 of RIP Our Street and I

2355
01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:06,840
fucking love RIP Our Street. 
Dude. 

2356
01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:10,240
I met the guy who played 
Inspector Abilene at convention 

2357
01:58:10,240 --> 01:58:11,920
a few years ago. 
It's just the fucking nicest, 

2358
01:58:11,920 --> 01:58:15,360
coolest guy. 
But I swear to God man. 

2359
01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:21,360
I think Rebel St was appointment
Graham Linen start getting weird

2360
01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:25,200
online because I remember he was
really mad about it. 

2361
01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:27,280
He was like, oh, this is a 
terrible show to promote 

2362
01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:29,200
violence to women. 
No, fucking doesn't do what it 

2363
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:30,560
says. 
Violence against anyone in 

2364
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:33,520
general is really bad. 
I think like you thought it was 

2365
01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:35,880
going to be a show that like 
fucking glorified Jack the 

2366
01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:38,600
Ripper and it doesn't. 
It's about, you know, it's about

2367
01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:43,120
a fucking police station in the 
area of, you know, White Chapel.

2368
01:58:43,240 --> 01:58:48,680
And this is scene when in fact, 
Abilene uses the phrase got his 

2369
01:58:48,680 --> 01:58:51,240
cock out in a park to like the 
main character. 

2370
01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:54,640
And Graham Lenihan went on 
Google Books and did a Google 

2371
01:58:54,640 --> 01:58:58,160
book search like the 19th 
century for got his cock out and

2372
01:58:58,160 --> 01:59:00,880
couldn't find any mentions of it
and thought that was a total 

2373
01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:04,240
gotcha and a mate Roth and 
nobody seemed to kind of kiss 

2374
01:59:04,240 --> 01:59:07,640
his ass for it at all online. 
And I think that was the point 

2375
01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:09,600
when he started getting weird 
about things. 

2376
01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:11,080
I. 
Think I had an argument with 

2377
01:59:11,120 --> 01:59:12,400
Grimo online once. 
Amazing. 

2378
01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:18,360
A short one on Twitter.com in 
like 2910, I want to say. 

2379
01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:22,080
And it was about it must have 
been 2010 and it was about Red 

2380
01:59:22,080 --> 01:59:25,440
Dead Redemption. 
Basically all I was I was 

2381
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:30,080
talking about how it was a like 
a revisionist Western and it was

2382
01:59:30,080 --> 01:59:33,880
it's based around like movies 
like the Wild Bunch. 

2383
01:59:34,320 --> 01:59:36,680
It was it was it was very close 
thing to the story to it and all

2384
01:59:36,680 --> 01:59:38,160
this kind of stuff. 
And I can't remember the exact 

2385
01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:41,000
nature of the argument, but I do
remember him basically being 

2386
01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:43,600
very dismissive in a bit of a 
cock and then me basically 

2387
01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:45,960
arguing back a little bit and 
then there's him speaking out. 

2388
01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:49,960
Yes. 
And then and then me just being 

2389
01:59:49,960 --> 01:59:51,840
quite sad that I'd got into an 
argument with the guy who 

2390
01:59:51,840 --> 01:59:54,400
created Falla Ted and just kind 
of just leaving it. 

2391
01:59:54,640 --> 01:59:56,720
And then then just watching him 
continue to spurg out. 

2392
01:59:56,720 --> 01:59:58,560
I was just like, what the fuck 
is going on with this guy? 

2393
01:59:58,760 --> 02:00:01,520
And then ever since then, really
I've just noticed him speaking 

2394
02:00:01,520 --> 02:00:04,200
out, speaking out all the time. 
That's basically he's 

2395
02:00:04,200 --> 02:00:06,120
professional outs Burger now 
isn't. 

2396
02:00:06,160 --> 02:00:09,440
He is a pressure outs burger. 
I remember when when he was like

2397
02:00:09,440 --> 02:00:13,440
pulling this for like, oh, hey, 
hey, fellow gamers kind of 

2398
02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:14,840
thing. 
And he was saying, oh, I've just

2399
02:00:14,840 --> 02:00:16,720
completed Dishonourable and it's
all like, do you mean 

2400
02:00:16,720 --> 02:00:19,040
Dishonoured? 
It sucks. 

2401
02:00:19,560 --> 02:00:24,840
And so yeah, I'm David Frosold. 
Thrall was also in Scum and he 

2402
02:00:24,840 --> 02:00:30,040
was an alien autopsy as well. 
Fucking yes the comedy. 

2403
02:00:30,040 --> 02:00:31,360
The act. 
That comedy? 

2404
02:00:31,480 --> 02:00:38,080
Pack it in, Santilli, that you 
know what I'm I'm going to say 

2405
02:00:38,080 --> 02:00:39,760
at my full chest. 
I love that film. 

2406
02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:42,120
I don't care what anyone says, 
I'll fight in the streets. 

2407
02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:44,240
Really not opposite, man. 
I'll fight in the goddamn 

2408
02:00:44,240 --> 02:00:46,160
streets. 
And of course, one second, I 

2409
02:00:46,160 --> 02:00:47,600
don't remember, I'll tell you 
what I would have done. 

2410
02:00:47,600 --> 02:00:49,120
I would have logged on that box.
Let's do that now. 

2411
02:00:49,200 --> 02:00:54,920
Yeah, and of course, saving, 
saving The Hobbit is for last. 

2412
02:00:54,920 --> 02:00:57,680
Billy Boyd. 
Yeah, as Pippen. 

2413
02:00:58,280 --> 02:01:00,360
Come on, man. 
I mean. 

2414
02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:04,520
Full of a took. 
He is, he is, He is just fucking

2415
02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:06,440
iconic Hobbit and honesty you 
you can't. 

2416
02:01:06,440 --> 02:01:10,240
You can't separate from from the
rule obviously that all the 

2417
02:01:10,240 --> 02:01:12,800
films has done an insane amount 
of voice work for them. 

2418
02:01:13,000 --> 02:01:15,440
He probably doesn't even have to
work that much, but he still 

2419
02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:17,960
does. 
He was recently at the TV show 

2420
02:01:17,960 --> 02:01:22,280
Doom Patrol. 
He sang the end credits music as

2421
02:01:22,280 --> 02:01:24,840
a guest in an episode of The 
Simpsons, which I think is 

2422
02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:27,240
mental. 
That is mental. 

2423
02:01:27,240 --> 02:01:29,560
Do you think he did like the 
actual song from Lord of the 

2424
02:01:29,560 --> 02:01:31,680
Rings or on on now? 
Did you mention that? 

2425
02:01:36,080 --> 02:01:40,720
Yeah, I like that in this movie 
that to like they give him like 

2426
02:01:40,800 --> 02:01:42,960
a big scar on his eyes to to 
make him less pretty. 

2427
02:01:43,160 --> 02:01:45,400
Yeah, it's like, son, we've got 
to fuck you up. 

2428
02:01:45,400 --> 02:01:47,160
We've got to make you look 
slightly chopped for this. 

2429
02:01:47,160 --> 02:01:49,640
I'm really sorry. 
We've got to make you look a bit

2430
02:01:49,640 --> 02:01:51,120
chopped. 
You were. 

2431
02:01:51,240 --> 02:01:52,880
You were. 
You were no longer Pippen. 

2432
02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:55,040
Your Pippen's Your Pippen's 
Choppel Ganger. 

2433
02:01:56,480 --> 02:01:58,760
They should have got, what's his
name? 

2434
02:01:58,800 --> 02:02:00,520
Dominic. 
No, they should have got Dominic

2435
02:02:00,520 --> 02:02:02,240
Monaghan. 
Dominic Mary. 

2436
02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:04,760
Dominic has been Mary. 
They should have got hidden in 

2437
02:02:04,760 --> 02:02:06,640
this and he should have been 
cutting around somewhere in the 

2438
02:02:06,640 --> 02:02:07,920
background as well. 
Absolutely. 

2439
02:02:07,960 --> 02:02:09,040
So Billy. 
Billy. 

2440
02:02:09,040 --> 02:02:10,240
I should have. 
Put him on the Acura. 

2441
02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:13,520
Should have. 
Maybe all like turning up and 

2442
02:02:13,520 --> 02:02:14,680
dancing around on the on the 
deck. 

2443
02:02:14,680 --> 02:02:16,920
They should have like had them 
to like Lincoln arms and skip 

2444
02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:19,160
around the place barefoot for 
the reason I. 

2445
02:02:19,160 --> 02:02:21,960
Was going to say fucking fucking
like fucking aggressively 

2446
02:02:21,960 --> 02:02:25,600
shoeless. 
Or just just smoking in the 

2447
02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:28,760
corner with the pipe. 
Yeah, a gigantic long pipe. 

2448
02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:31,640
Like theatrically fucking long. 
And Habitus. 

2449
02:02:31,800 --> 02:02:35,880
And his first role, he did 3 
episodes of Tagas in 1996. 

2450
02:02:35,880 --> 02:02:39,840
Because of course he did. 
Geographically, I guess, man, 

2451
02:02:39,840 --> 02:02:41,480
honestly. 
And he was in an episode of 

2452
02:02:41,480 --> 02:02:45,320
Still Game as well, playing like
bearded man or something like 

2453
02:02:45,400 --> 02:02:50,080
that immediately after this 
film, which I think is 

2454
02:02:50,120 --> 02:02:55,160
incredible. 
You guys probably have loads and

2455
02:02:55,160 --> 02:02:57,520
loads and loads of trivia about 
this film. 

2456
02:02:57,520 --> 02:02:59,760
So should we dig into some of 
your favourite bits of trivia? 

2457
02:03:00,720 --> 02:03:01,440
Well, let's do it. 
Yeah. 

2458
02:03:01,600 --> 02:03:02,320
All right. 
OK. 

2459
02:03:03,960 --> 02:03:06,560
So, I mean, there's obviously 
all the MTV trivia about how the

2460
02:03:06,560 --> 02:03:09,280
movie was made here, which is 
fine. 

2461
02:03:09,520 --> 02:03:12,800
I've not got too much like Navy 
trivia to talk about that I 

2462
02:03:12,800 --> 02:03:16,080
haven't already mentioned apart 
from the the one thing I 

2463
02:03:16,080 --> 02:03:19,120
spotted, which on further 
reflection watching it several 

2464
02:03:19,120 --> 02:03:22,000
times back, I'm not 100% sure 
I'm right about just that. 

2465
02:03:23,120 --> 02:03:27,840
There's a sequence. 
It's I forgot exactly when. 

2466
02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:29,760
I think it's, I think it's as 
they let fly. 

2467
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:33,720
There's a call out on the bosons
call and the way the bosons 

2468
02:03:33,720 --> 02:03:34,680
call. 
Have you got your bosons call 

2469
02:03:34,680 --> 02:03:35,720
there, Sonia? 
Yes. 

2470
02:03:36,200 --> 02:03:37,160
Yeah. 
Can you can you hold, can you 

2471
02:03:37,160 --> 02:03:39,160
hold it up to the camera so that
people can see it who are 

2472
02:03:39,160 --> 02:03:40,200
watching it just right. 
Yeah. 

2473
02:03:40,200 --> 02:03:41,640
Cool. 
So as you can see, right, it's a

2474
02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:45,400
it's a whistle with a long 
narrow bit which you blew into. 

2475
02:03:45,400 --> 02:03:47,720
And at the end of it, it has a 
rounded bulbous piece. 

2476
02:03:47,720 --> 02:03:51,160
And above that there is a hole. 
And in that hole, basically what

2477
02:03:51,160 --> 02:03:53,480
you can do with it is you can 
block it with your thumb or your

2478
02:03:53,480 --> 02:03:55,440
actually not your thumb, it's 
your, it's the part of your 

2479
02:03:55,440 --> 02:03:58,600
finger here to block the whole. 
And what I can do is it can 

2480
02:03:58,600 --> 02:04:00,960
produce 2 notes. 
So you can have a low note and a

2481
02:04:00,960 --> 02:04:03,000
high note and you've got to blow
into it quite hard. 

2482
02:04:03,440 --> 02:04:05,440
Don't do it, Do not do it. 
It's a horrible noise. 

2483
02:04:06,520 --> 02:04:08,400
Don't do it. 
Do not do it and it'll sound 

2484
02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:13,960
bad, but the way it works is 
when the when the grip is 

2485
02:04:14,520 --> 02:04:17,000
slackened it's the low note and 
when you grip onto it it's the 

2486
02:04:17,000 --> 02:04:20,640
high note and keep talking. 
About a fucking delivery dressed

2487
02:04:20,640 --> 02:04:22,400
like this, sorry. 
Why would you? 

2488
02:04:22,400 --> 02:04:27,760
That's well, that's obviously 
stay again, really didn't think 

2489
02:04:27,760 --> 02:04:29,720
I went through didn't we boys? 
That's fantastic. 

2490
02:04:30,200 --> 02:04:33,160
So, yeah, you see the you see 
the buffer or presumably the 

2491
02:04:33,160 --> 02:04:36,680
bosun use the bosun's call at 
one point and he grips it, but 

2492
02:04:36,680 --> 02:04:40,800
the note then he let's go of it 
and the note gets high as he 

2493
02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:42,040
let's go and it's the way 
around. 

2494
02:04:42,160 --> 02:04:44,920
That's the that's the only thing
I noticed as a as a potential 

2495
02:04:44,920 --> 02:04:48,440
goof, But that's it really. 
Other than that, I think it's a 

2496
02:04:49,120 --> 02:04:51,880
which is small fry and also it's
not home percent clear on the on

2497
02:04:51,880 --> 02:04:53,440
the on the footage. 
That's what's happening. 

2498
02:04:53,440 --> 02:04:56,800
This film is like phenomenal. 
There's so much stuff in it that

2499
02:04:56,800 --> 02:05:00,080
we still do now that is in that 
film kind of kind of blows your 

2500
02:05:00,080 --> 02:05:02,840
mind a little bit. 
The nanny conventions for the 

2501
02:05:02,840 --> 02:05:07,960
watches are exactly the same on 
in the Navy the watches are 

2502
02:05:07,960 --> 02:05:12,240
divided into 4 hour periods and 
so you have like the following 

2503
02:05:12,240 --> 02:05:16,800
watch starting at 0800 to 1200. 
The afternoon you have which is 

2504
02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:20,280
12116 hundred. 
Then you have like the the dogs 

2505
02:05:20,280 --> 02:05:23,760
which is 1600 to 2000 and it's 
called the dogs could split into

2506
02:05:23,760 --> 02:05:27,120
two a first dog and a last dog 
which is like a 2 hour watch. 

2507
02:05:27,240 --> 02:05:29,200
So you have different watch 
bills you can cross over at that

2508
02:05:29,200 --> 02:05:33,040
point and swap around. 
And then you have the first, 

2509
02:05:33,040 --> 02:05:35,840
which is 2000 to midnight, the 
middle, which is midnight to 

2510
02:05:35,840 --> 02:05:39,560
4:00 in the morning and in the 
morning watches 0400 to 0800. 

2511
02:05:39,640 --> 02:05:41,360
And it's the morning watch that 
the film starts on. 

2512
02:05:41,400 --> 02:05:43,600
And so you get that kind of 
stuff that all that is about log

2513
02:05:43,600 --> 02:05:45,280
books. 
Well, so there's lows in this 

2514
02:05:45,280 --> 02:05:47,160
film. 
All the navigation stuff, the 

2515
02:05:47,160 --> 02:05:51,680
the sextants, obviously the sale
terminology is all there. 

2516
02:05:51,800 --> 02:05:53,840
What else is still in action 
today? 

2517
02:05:53,840 --> 02:05:55,560
I mean, the gunnery stuff is 
like surprising. 

2518
02:05:55,880 --> 02:05:58,720
You hear them cause a clear away
on the on the cannons. 

2519
02:05:58,720 --> 02:06:00,520
We still use that term because 
of clear away. 

2520
02:06:00,640 --> 02:06:03,520
Just do it a little stuff like 
that is it's still going. 

2521
02:06:03,600 --> 02:06:05,160
Yeah. 
So that's that's it for me on 

2522
02:06:05,160 --> 02:06:06,160
trivia. 
Just thought there's loads of 

2523
02:06:06,160 --> 02:06:07,960
it. 
Where to start even there's 

2524
02:06:08,000 --> 02:06:10,360
there's so much going on with 
these. 

2525
02:06:10,400 --> 02:06:15,360
What's struck me now rewatching 
and rewatching this after I've 

2526
02:06:15,680 --> 02:06:19,320
joined the Navy myself and start
really so much really hasn't 

2527
02:06:19,320 --> 02:06:23,760
changed, whether it's customs or
just actual time periods. 

2528
02:06:23,800 --> 02:06:26,360
We've brought this up earlier 
and it's going to come up when 

2529
02:06:26,360 --> 02:06:29,800
we get to the quotes sections. 
But there's that gunnery drills 

2530
02:06:29,800 --> 02:06:34,960
bit and the whole the amount of 
times and the the captain 

2531
02:06:34,960 --> 02:06:38,840
keeping time whenever something 
is done, whether it's the quick 

2532
02:06:38,840 --> 02:06:40,720
draw or going to action 
stations. 

2533
02:06:41,120 --> 02:06:44,920
And it's, it's a little bit that
even the time frames haven't 

2534
02:06:44,920 --> 02:06:48,640
really changed in today's Navy, 
even though the equipment and 

2535
02:06:48,640 --> 02:06:53,280
the ships are vastly different. 
So that's a bit funny to me how 

2536
02:06:53,720 --> 02:06:59,120
modern frigate with almost 200 
people on it would still take 

2537
02:06:59,120 --> 02:07:03,360
roughly the same time to get to 
action stations As a man of war 

2538
02:07:03,360 --> 02:07:08,040
from the age of Sale, you don't 
need to run around and rigging 

2539
02:07:08,040 --> 02:07:12,240
and shore up sails and whatnot. 
So that's gets to me. 

2540
02:07:13,040 --> 02:07:17,520
I think there's all, there's so 
much tradition in the role maybe

2541
02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:21,320
that that we maintain that it's 
is on display in this film 

2542
02:07:21,320 --> 02:07:23,880
that's still there. 
So like the quotes of the day. 

2543
02:07:24,440 --> 02:07:26,320
So yeah, there's a there's a 
toast. 

2544
02:07:26,600 --> 02:07:29,840
There's a toast in the in the in
one of the in the wardroom 

2545
02:07:29,840 --> 02:07:32,720
sequences and he toasts, swags 
and sweethearts. 

2546
02:07:33,000 --> 02:07:35,960
May they never meet. 
And I say and I say classic 

2547
02:07:35,960 --> 02:07:38,520
naval toast that's been going 
for hundreds of years. 

2548
02:07:38,640 --> 02:07:42,360
It was changed for the second 
Sea Lord in 2023 because of woke

2549
02:07:42,640 --> 02:07:47,080
to to our family. 
But there's a. 

2550
02:07:47,400 --> 02:07:50,800
May they never meet because 
there's two. 

2551
02:07:50,800 --> 02:07:56,120
Because you're because you're 
yet another record-breaking lens

2552
02:07:56,120 --> 02:08:00,280
patrol. 
Yeah, ridiculous. 

2553
02:08:00,400 --> 02:08:02,000
Yeah. 
Because so there's, there's a, 

2554
02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:06,280
there's a naval tradition of 
toasts for different days of the

2555
02:08:06,280 --> 02:08:08,880
week depending on what day your 
mess dinner is taking place on. 

2556
02:08:09,240 --> 02:08:13,000
And so that's one of them. 
Sunday is to absent friends and 

2557
02:08:13,240 --> 02:08:15,360
then the alternative is absent 
friends and those at sea. 

2558
02:08:15,440 --> 02:08:17,240
On Monday, it's our ships at 
sea. 

2559
02:08:17,240 --> 02:08:19,800
And then the alternative is our 
native land king and country. 

2560
02:08:19,800 --> 02:08:23,480
Tuesday was our sailors and 
before 2013 it was our men. 

2561
02:08:23,480 --> 02:08:24,800
So this isn't the first time 
this has happened. 

2562
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:27,240
And then alternatively, it's our
mother's health and wealth. 

2563
02:08:27,840 --> 02:08:31,320
Wednesday it's just ourselves, 
usually with the informal reply 

2564
02:08:31,320 --> 02:08:33,520
of nobody else will consume 
themselves with our well-being, 

2565
02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:36,400
as you say. 
And then it's ourselves, our 

2566
02:08:36,400 --> 02:08:39,440
swords, old chips as the 
alternative Thursday, a bloody 

2567
02:08:39,440 --> 02:08:40,760
warrant, sickly season, as I 
said. 

2568
02:08:40,760 --> 02:08:44,520
And then just the king as the 
alternative Friday a willing foe

2569
02:08:44,520 --> 02:08:46,000
in sea room. 
I like that one. 

2570
02:08:47,560 --> 02:08:50,240
And then fox hunting and old 
port and ships at sea. 

2571
02:08:50,640 --> 02:08:56,600
And then finally our families, 
which before 2013, it says 2013.

2572
02:08:56,600 --> 02:08:59,600
Yeah, it was more recent than 
that to our wives and 

2573
02:08:59,600 --> 02:09:01,640
sweethearts with they never 
beat. 

2574
02:09:01,640 --> 02:09:04,240
So obviously the one that which 
is the one that appears in the 

2575
02:09:04,240 --> 02:09:06,320
film. 
So that's fantastic. 

2576
02:09:07,680 --> 02:09:12,440
As we said, like the just the 
make up of of like the ship's 

2577
02:09:12,440 --> 02:09:14,320
company hasn't hasn't changed a 
good deal. 

2578
02:09:14,320 --> 02:09:17,720
Some of the jobs have changed. 
So, like, you don't have, you 

2579
02:09:17,720 --> 02:09:20,040
know, a master Carpenter and a 
carpenter's men anymore, but you

2580
02:09:20,040 --> 02:09:24,560
do have the M3 section head 
who's responsible for home 

2581
02:09:24,560 --> 02:09:27,280
maintenance, Same job, 
basically. 

2582
02:09:27,320 --> 02:09:30,440
You know, you might not have a 
qualified butcher on board, but 

2583
02:09:30,440 --> 02:09:32,280
you still have the galley. 
Yeah. 

2584
02:09:32,280 --> 02:09:35,080
And the scablifter, you know, 
you still got like, so you know,

2585
02:09:35,080 --> 02:09:36,880
you've got like you've got like 
exactly. 

2586
02:09:36,880 --> 02:09:40,000
You've got, you've got a ship's 
Doctor Who now is normally a 

2587
02:09:40,000 --> 02:09:42,120
General practitioner, surgeon, 
Lieutenant, still called 

2588
02:09:42,120 --> 02:09:43,680
surgeon. 
And on smaller ships, you might 

2589
02:09:43,680 --> 02:09:46,640
have the Cox and who gets the 
scablifter kind of moniker. 

2590
02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:48,920
And you've got MAS on big ships 
as well, also called that. 

2591
02:09:49,040 --> 02:09:53,240
You've got, you've got the whole
breakdown between, you know, 

2592
02:09:53,240 --> 02:09:54,840
they've got the officers and the
midshipmen. 

2593
02:09:55,040 --> 02:09:59,040
Midshipmen are no longer really 
found at sea too often as WARF 

2594
02:09:59,040 --> 02:10:00,480
officers. 
And they don't have to have 

2595
02:10:00,480 --> 02:10:03,400
their own separate gun room, but
they still have that at 

2596
02:10:03,400 --> 02:10:05,960
Dartmouth, the midshipmen's gun 
room and the wardroom for the 

2597
02:10:05,960 --> 02:10:07,320
actual officers who who work 
there. 

2598
02:10:07,400 --> 02:10:10,360
So, yeah, there's all that kind 
of stuff that hasn't, hasn't 

2599
02:10:10,360 --> 02:10:11,480
changed. 
It's pretty pretty amazing. 

2600
02:10:11,680 --> 02:10:16,520
So on the set, they actually had
different wardrooms for for the 

2601
02:10:16,840 --> 02:10:20,080
film crew and for for the 
actors, depending on what role 

2602
02:10:20,080 --> 02:10:21,920
they were playing. 
So they had an officer's 

2603
02:10:22,080 --> 02:10:25,960
wardroom and they had an had an 
enlisted crew wardroom and they 

2604
02:10:25,960 --> 02:10:27,520
weren't really allowed to 
mingle. 

2605
02:10:27,520 --> 02:10:30,000
They had to wear different 
colours and shirts. 

2606
02:10:30,040 --> 02:10:32,400
Yeah, that's right. 
And they actually did sailing 

2607
02:10:32,400 --> 02:10:37,640
training and took out the ship 
in there, different colour 

2608
02:10:37,640 --> 02:10:40,840
T-shirts. 
So they sort of got a real crew 

2609
02:10:40,840 --> 02:10:43,640
dynamic into the actors. 
Yeah, I love that. 

2610
02:10:43,640 --> 02:10:47,040
That's really cool. 
And I think I chose on on screen

2611
02:10:47,040 --> 02:10:47,920
as well. 
I think it paid off. 

2612
02:10:48,880 --> 02:10:51,520
Yeah. 
Just just like the scene when 

2613
02:10:51,520 --> 02:10:54,440
the Rolex sarcastically show and
there will be since to Harlem 

2614
02:10:54,440 --> 02:10:56,920
and that and draw like kind of 
talking to forelock and stuff. 

2615
02:10:56,920 --> 02:11:00,920
And it's it's legitimately 
sinister and intimidate. 

2616
02:11:00,920 --> 02:11:05,560
And that makes sense when you 
see they've been segregated like

2617
02:11:05,560 --> 02:11:07,480
that. 
That's really cool. 

2618
02:11:07,480 --> 02:11:11,440
I like that. 
They even did did sort of the, 

2619
02:11:11,560 --> 02:11:14,600
you know, the sort of thing you 
would do in in basic training on

2620
02:11:14,600 --> 02:11:17,880
the on the first night so people
don't do stupid shit. 

2621
02:11:17,880 --> 02:11:20,640
And they got everyone together 
and gave the people name tapes 

2622
02:11:20,640 --> 02:11:22,840
and they had to sue them on 
their T-shirts. 

2623
02:11:23,000 --> 02:11:26,240
Yes. 
Yeah, literally, so they don't 

2624
02:11:26,240 --> 02:11:28,520
run off and get drunk on the 
first day on set. 

2625
02:11:28,760 --> 02:11:30,440
That's amazing. 
That's legit. 

2626
02:11:30,920 --> 02:11:33,600
I think, I think they did that 
for Tom Sizemore in every film. 

2627
02:11:35,560 --> 02:11:38,320
I think they just like did that 
for Tom Seizwell, arbitrary 

2628
02:11:38,320 --> 02:11:40,960
mornings, even when he wasn't 
work and someone would come 

2629
02:11:40,960 --> 02:11:44,080
round and say, Tom, there's a 
team this that show your name on

2630
02:11:44,080 --> 02:11:45,440
it. 
There's an emergency telephone. 

2631
02:11:45,440 --> 02:11:47,640
The boss in the back don't do 
anything fucking. 

2632
02:11:47,640 --> 02:11:52,280
Stupid just catching screws. 
I love that there's whizzer 

2633
02:11:52,320 --> 02:11:54,400
data. 
Do you go through the go through

2634
02:11:54,400 --> 02:11:56,040
the extremely long list of 
quotes? 

2635
02:11:56,040 --> 02:11:57,920
Let's hit the quotes. 
Maybe pick up favourites? 

2636
02:11:58,480 --> 02:12:01,480
Let's let let us hit the quotes 
because they're so fucking good.

2637
02:12:01,480 --> 02:12:03,200
Man. 
I'm just pulling up my notes on 

2638
02:12:03,200 --> 02:12:05,040
the quotes. 
My notes on the quotes. 

2639
02:12:05,200 --> 02:12:07,640
Jesus Christ, that was an 
unintentional rhyme. 

2640
02:12:07,800 --> 02:12:10,680
Well, while you're doing that, 
do you see those two weevils, Dr

2641
02:12:11,280 --> 02:12:12,480
I do. 
Perfect. 

2642
02:12:12,840 --> 02:12:14,760
Which? 
Which would you choose? 

2643
02:12:14,760 --> 02:12:15,760
Neither. 
There's not a scrap of 

2644
02:12:15,760 --> 02:12:18,280
difference between them. 
They're both the same species of

2645
02:12:18,320 --> 02:12:21,280
Coolio, but if you had to 
choose, if you're forced to make

2646
02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:22,920
a choice, there was no other 
response. 

2647
02:12:22,920 --> 02:12:25,480
Well, if you're going to push 
me, I would choose the right 

2648
02:12:25,480 --> 02:12:27,200
hand Weevil. 
A significant advantage of 

2649
02:12:27,200 --> 02:12:29,440
length and breadth. 
I have you. 

2650
02:12:29,760 --> 02:12:33,720
You're completely dished. 
Do you don't know that at the 

2651
02:12:33,720 --> 02:12:37,320
service one must always choose 
the lesson of two weevils? 

2652
02:12:38,840 --> 02:12:43,960
People pick a pocket. 
Yeah, got them boys, claps. 

2653
02:12:45,880 --> 02:12:51,120
Incredible. 
Do you want to see a guillotine 

2654
02:12:51,120 --> 02:12:54,120
in Piccadilly? 
No. 

2655
02:12:54,280 --> 02:12:56,760
Want to call that Raggedyos 
Napoleon your king? 

2656
02:12:58,280 --> 02:13:01,680
No. 
You want your children to sing 

2657
02:13:02,000 --> 02:13:05,320
Lamassa is. 
Exactly. 

2658
02:13:05,640 --> 02:13:07,400
Go again lads. 
Yeah. 

2659
02:13:07,440 --> 02:13:10,960
Fucking yeah again, that's lard 
battery. 

2660
02:13:12,480 --> 02:13:14,560
Oh, that is another great trivia
by the way. 

2661
02:13:15,120 --> 02:13:17,800
They they actually stood calling
it starboard and lard. 

2662
02:13:17,800 --> 02:13:20,880
Yes, at the time, because they 
only changed that after the War 

2663
02:13:20,880 --> 02:13:22,840
of 1812. 
Wow, because they realised that 

2664
02:13:22,840 --> 02:13:26,520
lard sounds too much like. 
Starboard that that's. 

2665
02:13:26,520 --> 02:13:28,320
Why I changed it? 
That's where where port came 

2666
02:13:28,320 --> 02:13:30,840
from. 
So another one of the bits that 

2667
02:13:30,880 --> 02:13:34,280
is a quote, but but it ties into
the trivia piece, which is 

2668
02:13:34,600 --> 02:13:37,000
there's a bit here where Doctor 
Matron's like Jack, if you've 

2669
02:13:37,000 --> 02:13:39,000
forgotten your promise. 
He was subject to the 

2670
02:13:39,000 --> 02:13:41,560
requirements of the service. 
I kind of in all conscious delay

2671
02:13:41,560 --> 02:13:44,480
for the sake of an iguana or a 
giant peggery fascination, no 

2672
02:13:44,480 --> 02:13:45,920
doubt, but have no immediate 
application. 

2673
02:13:46,080 --> 02:13:48,760
But that phrase subject to the 
requirements of the service is 

2674
02:13:48,760 --> 02:13:52,160
still in use today. 
Like seriously like no, no, no 

2675
02:13:52,160 --> 02:13:56,440
jokes like you are constantly 
reminded, but any any leave you 

2676
02:13:56,440 --> 02:13:59,960
may take or any the thing that 
has been told to you is subject 

2677
02:13:59,960 --> 02:14:01,960
to the requirements of the 
service and that still that 

2678
02:14:01,960 --> 02:14:03,080
still appears in official 
writing. 

2679
02:14:03,560 --> 02:14:06,120
That's amazing. 
I have known you to obsess over 

2680
02:14:06,120 --> 02:14:10,080
a beetle for 10 hours. 
There's there's. 

2681
02:14:10,360 --> 02:14:12,720
You forget yourself, Doctor. 
Major there's. 

2682
02:14:12,720 --> 02:14:15,160
I can't afford to leave an 
anarchist on this ship. 

2683
02:14:16,160 --> 02:14:18,760
You've come to the come to the 
wrong shop, Anarchy, brother. 

2684
02:14:19,440 --> 02:14:21,400
Does he see it? 
Oh yes, that is, so does. 

2685
02:14:21,400 --> 02:14:23,520
He say I can only forward on 
anarchist on the ship because I 

2686
02:14:23,520 --> 02:14:25,720
watched the disc one rebel, one 
rebel. 

2687
02:14:25,720 --> 02:14:28,640
I wasn't say because. 
I've mixed mixed the two up. 

2688
02:14:28,880 --> 02:14:30,680
Punished as a boy? 
No, because I just think 

2689
02:14:30,680 --> 02:14:33,040
obviously watch on Disney Plus 
and they said Rebel and I wonder

2690
02:14:33,040 --> 02:14:35,960
if maybe they'd like kind of 
butlerised and cleaned it up for

2691
02:14:35,960 --> 02:14:38,720
for Disney. 
Star Wars it. 

2692
02:14:38,960 --> 02:14:42,920
Yeah, yeah, they flyed out. 
They flyed out the usher rods 

2693
02:14:42,920 --> 02:14:51,680
launching TIE fighters. 
Fucking hell man, which one that

2694
02:14:51,680 --> 02:14:53,160
I really like. 
Just a really great bit of 

2695
02:14:53,160 --> 02:14:57,800
Bandai here from Nehemiah Slade.
Abel seaman never met a dead man

2696
02:14:57,800 --> 02:15:01,280
that bought me a drink and it 
clap back from true a place able

2697
02:15:01,280 --> 02:15:04,240
seaman and I never met a live 
one that bought that. 

2698
02:15:04,240 --> 02:15:07,080
You bought one for neither. 
I. 

2699
02:15:07,560 --> 02:15:08,400
Like that I love. 
That. 

2700
02:15:08,920 --> 02:15:12,680
I fucking like that. 
And of course, like you said, is

2701
02:15:12,680 --> 02:15:15,680
them as brains, Doctor? 
No, that's just dry blood. 

2702
02:15:15,680 --> 02:15:20,360
Those are his brains. 
The IMD then follows the crew, 

2703
02:15:20,360 --> 02:15:24,840
oohs and ours. 
Mr. Allen, like the silly 

2704
02:15:24,840 --> 02:15:27,520
master, is my it's probably my 
favourite characters and he has 

2705
02:15:27,520 --> 02:15:29,280
like it all by years. 
I've never seen anything like 

2706
02:15:29,280 --> 02:15:31,120
it. 
It has to be more than 100 

2707
02:15:31,120 --> 02:15:32,840
seamiles. 
And he brings up on his tail 

2708
02:15:33,000 --> 02:15:34,360
that seamanship. 
Mr Puddings. 

2709
02:15:34,480 --> 02:15:36,640
My God, that's seamanship. 
Fuck, I love that. 

2710
02:15:36,760 --> 02:15:40,560
So good. 
It's a bit of a bit of witch 

2711
02:15:40,560 --> 02:15:42,640
from Blakeney. 
Tie your neck bands on your 

2712
02:15:42,640 --> 02:15:45,680
right upper arm and tell friend 
from Foo Blake and he pointing 

2713
02:15:45,680 --> 02:15:48,960
Davies, this arm star, but arm 
quad Davies able Seaman. 

2714
02:15:48,960 --> 02:15:51,760
That's who's credited as is that
the one you've got or the one 

2715
02:15:51,760 --> 02:15:54,440
you don't got? 
Blake and he all right, That's 

2716
02:15:54,440 --> 02:15:57,000
enough cheek Davies. 
I also like to like to do like 

2717
02:15:57,000 --> 02:15:58,160
him. 
Iff on there. 

2718
02:15:58,160 --> 02:16:01,920
It's like, you know, that's 
that's like being and in and in 

2719
02:16:01,920 --> 02:16:04,800
2026, when every army in the 
world's wearing fucking bully 

2720
02:16:04,800 --> 02:16:07,480
Cam, they're doing it again 
because time is a flat fucking 

2721
02:16:07,480 --> 02:16:10,800
circle. 
The moribund masses of Troy corn

2722
02:16:10,800 --> 02:16:12,120
hats. 
It is important. 

2723
02:16:12,320 --> 02:16:15,880
That's a great moribund bully. 
Cam masses call back my damn 

2724
02:16:15,880 --> 02:16:17,680
son. 
Where do you find this call 

2725
02:16:17,680 --> 02:16:20,880
back? 
400% real reclaimers. 

2726
02:16:21,040 --> 02:16:23,120
After me it's also great. 
Oh my God. 

2727
02:16:23,200 --> 02:16:26,400
And of course, like you said, 
the hello we caught a fish quote

2728
02:16:26,400 --> 02:16:28,680
was just great. 
So much of the tag logs just 

2729
02:16:28,680 --> 02:16:33,559
really natural and I really 
enjoyed it that that that's 

2730
02:16:33,559 --> 02:16:35,480
great. 
And of course. 

2731
02:16:35,680 --> 02:16:38,639
Hurrah for captain, for Lucky 
Jack, for England, for home and 

2732
02:16:38,639 --> 02:16:41,760
full of prize this ship. 
Is England. 

2733
02:16:44,080 --> 02:16:45,840
This is the second time he's 
done this to me. 

2734
02:16:45,840 --> 02:16:48,120
There will not be 1/3 subtle 
foreshadowing. 

2735
02:16:48,120 --> 02:16:52,480
Fucking foreshadowing indeed. 
Run like smoking or can because 

2736
02:16:52,480 --> 02:16:54,400
I might not have VR fifteens, 
but I did that. 

2737
02:16:54,400 --> 02:16:56,400
But it did do some weapons 
identification, a bit of 

2738
02:16:56,400 --> 02:16:58,160
research and stuff. 
I like how the film handles 

2739
02:16:58,160 --> 02:17:00,600
guns. 
So had a quick look on like the 

2740
02:17:00,600 --> 02:17:03,440
IMF DP and they've all like kind
of research on all that pages to

2741
02:17:03,440 --> 02:17:08,200
double check was right. 
So I like how pretty much all 

2742
02:17:08,200 --> 02:17:15,400
the Royal Navy CLS officers have
.56 Calabar sea service pistols 

2743
02:17:15,400 --> 02:17:18,440
made by the gunsmith tower. 
I think that's really cool that 

2744
02:17:18,440 --> 02:17:20,760
like they've actually got like 
standardised historically 

2745
02:17:20,760 --> 02:17:21,920
accurate ones because that's 
fair. 

2746
02:17:21,920 --> 02:17:24,639
So what they could have done was
they could have had like most of

2747
02:17:24,680 --> 02:17:28,200
the extras and like the low 
rated like bottom of the 

2748
02:17:28,200 --> 02:17:31,440
castlist kind of sailors, just 
with some fucking brass wall 

2749
02:17:31,440 --> 02:17:35,320
Hangouts he got from from from a
car booter or just like the most

2750
02:17:35,320 --> 02:17:37,559
generic kind of flintlock 
pistol. 

2751
02:17:37,639 --> 02:17:39,280
You could guess get some muskets
right. 

2752
02:17:39,280 --> 02:17:43,920
And so far as it's brown buses 
when a .75 big yeah, bullets 

2753
02:17:43,920 --> 02:17:46,080
son. 
And the French have accurately 

2754
02:17:46,080 --> 02:17:49,959
sourced weapons too. 
They have the pistol model 1777.

2755
02:17:50,480 --> 02:17:52,600
I haven't looked up the calibre 
of that because it's written in 

2756
02:17:52,600 --> 02:17:54,320
French and French is a waste of 
time. 

2757
02:17:54,360 --> 02:17:57,600
And of course we're seeing knock
gun being used and I love knock 

2758
02:17:57,600 --> 02:17:59,680
guns so much. 
Anybody who grew up watching 

2759
02:17:59,680 --> 02:18:04,240
sharp and doesn't fall in love 
with the volley gun from the 

2760
02:18:04,240 --> 02:18:06,280
sand knock of London is a 
lunatic. 

2761
02:18:06,480 --> 02:18:11,639
And I told by them on my ship. 
Sergeant Sergeant Harper, God 

2762
02:18:11,639 --> 02:18:14,719
save Ireland. 
I especially love that it's 

2763
02:18:14,719 --> 02:18:18,680
fired from the hip by a sailor 
who has a side job at the best 

2764
02:18:18,680 --> 02:18:22,799
department, probably schwacking 
a bunch of franchise and I don't

2765
02:18:22,799 --> 02:18:25,200
know how historic actor is for 
it be fired from the hip. 

2766
02:18:25,200 --> 02:18:27,879
But I do know that firing from 
the short I was responsible for 

2767
02:18:27,879 --> 02:18:31,160
sometimes breaking bones. 
So probably likely that I may 

2768
02:18:31,160 --> 02:18:33,799
have been fired from the hip, 
you know, which is pretty 

2769
02:18:33,799 --> 02:18:36,120
fucking cool. 
I mean, you know, it's hard to 

2770
02:18:36,120 --> 02:18:38,879
get precision weapon. 
So yeah, really, really brief 

2771
02:18:38,879 --> 02:18:43,840
one in to the guns and shit, but
I've got another category. 

2772
02:18:43,920 --> 02:18:46,040
I have more guns, yes. 
Because you're going on the 

2773
02:18:46,040 --> 02:18:48,480
cannons and stuff, right? 
Thanks For information about 

2774
02:18:48,480 --> 02:18:51,920
live firings taking place in the
Scottish exercise areas, please 

2775
02:18:51,920 --> 02:18:57,360
talk to Channel 07 OK Gun Facts.
Sunny around luncheon gun cannon

2776
02:18:57,400 --> 02:18:59,000
facts. 
Yes. 

2777
02:18:59,000 --> 02:19:03,240
So one thing I've actually 
noticed which noticed recently 

2778
02:19:03,240 --> 02:19:07,040
only and not the first few times
they stern chase guns, actually 

2779
02:19:07,040 --> 02:19:10,840
brass cannons, which are the 
only ones on the ship. 

2780
02:19:10,840 --> 02:19:14,920
Which does add up though, 
because brass guns tend to hold 

2781
02:19:14,920 --> 02:19:18,200
up better to prolonged use than 
cast iron guns which were 

2782
02:19:18,240 --> 02:19:21,160
cheaper to procure. 
So they were used for the main 

2783
02:19:21,160 --> 02:19:23,320
batteries, but for the chase 
guns where you need something 

2784
02:19:23,320 --> 02:19:26,520
more precise. 
Makes sense to use them and it's

2785
02:19:26,520 --> 02:19:29,160
an amazing little detail that 
they've actually got brass 

2786
02:19:29,160 --> 02:19:32,639
cannons on the quarter deck. 
Also, fun fact, the term long 

2787
02:19:32,639 --> 02:19:37,639
nines for cannons or guns does 
not refer to the calibre, but to

2788
02:19:37,639 --> 02:19:39,360
the length of the barrel and 
foot. 

2789
02:19:40,160 --> 02:19:41,440
Cool man. 
Get it? 

2790
02:19:41,440 --> 02:19:45,520
So that would actually be your 
average 12 LB cannon, which was 

2791
02:19:45,520 --> 02:19:49,600
just the most precise because it
had the longest barrel in 

2792
02:19:50,240 --> 02:19:52,680
relation to. 
Manual of big guns. 

2793
02:19:55,920 --> 02:19:59,720
Also on the boarding scene at 
the end of film, what's 

2794
02:19:59,880 --> 02:20:03,560
Blakeney's firing at? 
The Acron is a coronate, which 

2795
02:20:03,560 --> 02:20:08,800
is a short type of naval gun 
with a very heavy calibre and 

2796
02:20:08,800 --> 02:20:12,720
judging by the hole it's made, 
this should be right up your 

2797
02:20:12,720 --> 02:20:14,080
alley. 
Rory. 

2798
02:20:14,400 --> 02:20:18,680
It's more the naval main 
armament calibre of a sword of 

2799
02:20:18,760 --> 02:20:21,080
shotgun. 
It's probably. 

2800
02:20:21,640 --> 02:20:25,960
Probably loaded with a 68 lbs of
grape shots. 

2801
02:20:27,000 --> 02:20:31,200
That's fucking beautiful. 
So you're just really shooting 

2802
02:20:32,240 --> 02:20:37,040
35 kilogrammes of iron shrapnel 
into the French at a distance of

2803
02:20:37,400 --> 02:20:40,040
five metres. 
Per my last e-mail. 

2804
02:20:41,080 --> 02:20:46,480
Yes, per my last load up. 
And it's already amazing to me 

2805
02:20:46,480 --> 02:20:50,320
that you actually have the the 
amount of detail where you see 

2806
02:20:51,920 --> 02:20:55,160
all the required instruments for
loading and unloading a naval 

2807
02:20:55,160 --> 02:20:56,800
gun on display and actually in 
use. 

2808
02:20:56,800 --> 02:21:00,800
Yeah, that was cool. 
And the the little detail of 

2809
02:21:01,760 --> 02:21:04,000
Higgins putting his hand in the 
firing mechanism. 

2810
02:21:04,200 --> 02:21:07,440
It's amazing to me because you 
barely ever see accurate, 

2811
02:21:07,480 --> 02:21:09,920
accurate firing mechanisms on 
guns. 

2812
02:21:10,600 --> 02:21:13,560
Flintlocks have been on naval 
guns for for quite a while at 

2813
02:21:13,560 --> 02:21:15,880
that point. 
But whenever you see a film it's

2814
02:21:15,880 --> 02:21:20,920
just always someone like burning
torch to it, which is nonsense 

2815
02:21:20,920 --> 02:21:24,600
and makes actual aiming, which 
is what they were were going for

2816
02:21:24,640 --> 02:21:27,040
despite its difficulties, quite 
impossible. 

2817
02:21:27,040 --> 02:21:28,800
Jesus man, that's really good 
'cause. 

2818
02:21:28,840 --> 02:21:33,200
Which is actually one of one of 
the the this is what makes the 

2819
02:21:33,200 --> 02:21:36,080
the gunnery drill. 
It seems so so real and so 

2820
02:21:36,080 --> 02:21:38,840
important is that one of the 
things that made the Royal Navy 

2821
02:21:38,840 --> 02:21:42,080
vastly superior in comparison to
the French Navy was the 

2822
02:21:42,080 --> 02:21:44,640
importance they put on naval 
gunnery drills. 

2823
02:21:45,000 --> 02:21:47,240
Trafalgar. 
They actually fired roughly 3 

2824
02:21:47,240 --> 02:21:49,840
broadsides to everyone French 
broadside. 

2825
02:21:49,840 --> 02:21:53,760
So you can imagine the absolute 
punishment of French ship of the

2826
02:21:53,760 --> 02:21:57,280
line will have taken meeting 
Hatred's victory face to face 

2827
02:21:57,280 --> 02:22:00,600
taken into account the absent 
horrid training on on Spanish 

2828
02:22:00,600 --> 02:22:03,760
vessels where their flagship 
actually had part of the the 

2829
02:22:03,760 --> 02:22:06,240
muzzle covers still on after the
battle. 

2830
02:22:07,200 --> 02:22:09,880
Incredible scene. 
Just goes to tell you how 

2831
02:22:09,880 --> 02:22:13,480
unprepared these crews weren't 
in part. 

2832
02:22:13,560 --> 02:22:18,240
Also interesting side tangent, 
this whole apart from from a 

2833
02:22:18,240 --> 02:22:21,400
difference in firing doctrine 
between the Royal Navy and the 

2834
02:22:21,400 --> 02:22:24,840
French Navy which was the royal 
neighbour would just fire into 

2835
02:22:24,840 --> 02:22:27,760
the hull to cripple as many crew
members as possible while the 

2836
02:22:27,760 --> 02:22:30,880
French were generally trying to 
dismiss ships to take them as a 

2837
02:22:30,880 --> 02:22:33,360
prize. 
This got way worse because 

2838
02:22:33,360 --> 02:22:37,480
during the French Revolution the
Naval Artillery school was just 

2839
02:22:37,920 --> 02:22:41,280
torn down and everyone executed 
because they were giving off 

2840
02:22:41,280 --> 02:22:43,160
aristocrat vibes and we didn't 
like. 

2841
02:22:43,600 --> 02:22:47,520
That executed. 
Quiet everyone who could have 

2842
02:22:47,520 --> 02:22:51,680
taught them about naval gunnery.
So for the 1st 10 years after 

2843
02:22:51,680 --> 02:22:55,080
that they were pretty much 
starting at being very shit at 

2844
02:22:55,080 --> 02:22:56,800
naval gun race. 
Wow, imagine that. 

2845
02:22:56,800 --> 02:22:59,560
Imagine, imagine a military 
force getting actively worse 

2846
02:22:59,560 --> 02:23:03,400
into a secure leaders 
premiership because they didn't 

2847
02:23:03,400 --> 02:23:05,520
agree with their policies so 
they thought they would just get

2848
02:23:05,520 --> 02:23:07,960
to have always incredibly 
experienced people arbitrarily. 

2849
02:23:08,480 --> 02:23:12,360
Wow, make you think, doesn't it?
Yeah, I wonder where I've seen. 

2850
02:23:12,360 --> 02:23:15,200
That happen Intriguing. 
Intriguing. 

2851
02:23:15,920 --> 02:23:20,360
I'm going to anybody here heard 
heard of a website called Kids 

2852
02:23:20,360 --> 02:23:24,280
in Mind? 
Kids in Mind is a film website 

2853
02:23:24,320 --> 02:23:28,320
designed to allow people to kind
of know what their kids will be 

2854
02:23:28,320 --> 02:23:30,320
getting into to watch a film 
with them. 

2855
02:23:30,360 --> 02:23:32,040
And to be honest, I don't 
disagree with it. 

2856
02:23:32,040 --> 02:23:34,720
I'd rather a kind of parents had
more of a kind of you kind of 

2857
02:23:34,720 --> 02:23:38,280
can't watch this thing than like
the government, you know, So 

2858
02:23:38,440 --> 02:23:40,960
kids in mind is nuts because 
what it does basically it is it 

2859
02:23:40,960 --> 02:23:44,400
has like sex, gore or that kind 
of ratings, which is already 

2860
02:23:44,400 --> 02:23:47,520
pretty fucking cool in my 
opinion, and it atomizes all of 

2861
02:23:47,520 --> 02:23:50,080
the violence. 
So for mastering commander 

2862
02:23:50,280 --> 02:23:52,520
right, I have got some some 
examples here. 

2863
02:23:52,520 --> 02:23:54,160
A ship is pummelled by cannon 
fire. 

2864
02:23:54,320 --> 02:23:56,000
Men are thrown back by the 
blasts. 

2865
02:23:56,160 --> 02:23:58,880
We see bloody wounds. 
Some men are treated by a doctor

2866
02:23:58,880 --> 02:24:00,560
Brackets. 
The floor is slick with blood. 

2867
02:24:00,560 --> 02:24:03,120
Black brackets, masts and seals 
collapse. 

2868
02:24:03,120 --> 02:24:06,120
Men dangle from ropes and a boy 
has shards of wood sticking out 

2869
02:24:06,120 --> 02:24:09,040
of his arm. 
We hear that nine men die in 27 

2870
02:24:09,040 --> 02:24:12,480
wounded in this encounter. 
Men suffer from wind and 

2871
02:24:12,480 --> 02:24:14,400
sweltering heat. 
The zillion drift at sea. 

2872
02:24:14,800 --> 02:24:19,280
A man dissects a fish. 
We see slam and organs. 2 men 

2873
02:24:19,280 --> 02:24:22,360
stand at the top of a high bast 
and men dangle from one side of 

2874
02:24:22,360 --> 02:24:27,080
a ship to help Balancer. 2 men 
argue bitterly. 

2875
02:24:30,160 --> 02:24:36,640
A man has a scar on his ear. 2 
weevils crawl off and around a 

2876
02:24:36,640 --> 02:24:38,800
piece of bread. 
That's not a fucking joke. 

2877
02:24:39,480 --> 02:24:44,080
That's not a joke basin. 
It's it's it's like those two 

2878
02:24:44,080 --> 02:24:46,160
kids from like I think it's like
the last season or second last 

2879
02:24:46,160 --> 02:24:49,000
season of league of gentlemen 
who go in this video shop like 

2880
02:24:49,040 --> 02:24:52,600
how how many killings? 
How many killings will the seven

2881
02:24:53,200 --> 02:24:56,320
sounds sounds rubbish. 
Nobody kills him in like in a 

2882
02:24:56,320 --> 02:25:00,120
different ways like Sexy, Grumpy
and Dobby I. 

2883
02:25:03,000 --> 02:25:06,480
Hope they got the News 7. 
So, yeah, and this this website 

2884
02:25:06,480 --> 02:25:10,000
also has like obviously there's 
that the there's a bit of like 

2885
02:25:10,000 --> 02:25:13,000
the sex stuff and it's so it's 
like a man looks at a woman 

2886
02:25:13,000 --> 02:25:15,680
admiringly and other man on a 
ship call out women. 

2887
02:25:15,680 --> 02:25:18,760
This is rear at 3 for sex and 
unity and other man on a ship 

2888
02:25:18,760 --> 02:25:21,280
call out the women who are 
apparently interested in keeping

2889
02:25:21,280 --> 02:25:24,000
the company. 
Three, There's only one woman in

2890
02:25:24,000 --> 02:25:24,640
it. 
She's only. 

2891
02:25:25,160 --> 02:25:27,840
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 3 for 
sex and Unity because. 

2892
02:25:27,840 --> 02:25:34,600
That's so 20. 
We see a man in his shirt we 

2893
02:25:34,840 --> 02:25:37,480
with no pants and his bare legs 
are exposed. 

2894
02:25:37,720 --> 02:25:41,240
Many men brackets sailors are 
seeing bad chests in many 

2895
02:25:41,240 --> 02:25:44,320
scenes. 
Indigenous men from islands wear

2896
02:25:44,320 --> 02:25:47,760
loincloth type clothing with bad
chests and the women wear 

2897
02:25:47,760 --> 02:25:49,680
dresses that are off the 
shoulder. 

2898
02:25:49,880 --> 02:25:52,640
Won't somebody think of the 
children? 

2899
02:25:52,920 --> 02:25:57,240
That's rated 3 out of 10. 
That's crazy, right? 

2900
02:25:57,240 --> 02:25:59,800
That's mental. 
But the best thing is, it also 

2901
02:25:59,800 --> 02:26:01,760
has like the message of the 
film. 

2902
02:26:02,880 --> 02:26:04,640
Oh yeah, I would like to hear 
the message of the film. 

2903
02:26:04,640 --> 02:26:07,800
If you are strong in lead 
respect and look will follow 

2904
02:26:07,800 --> 02:26:09,120
that's. 
A good motto though. 

2905
02:26:09,120 --> 02:26:11,200
I actually can't disagree with 
that. 

2906
02:26:11,200 --> 02:26:15,600
I cannot disagree with that. 
If you are stronger in lead luck

2907
02:26:15,600 --> 02:26:17,920
and successful following. 
Yeah, I can't disagree. 

2908
02:26:17,920 --> 02:26:21,200
That should be like it A that 
should be like a Chinese like. 

2909
02:26:21,760 --> 02:26:23,960
Fortunately. 
Amazing. 

2910
02:26:24,840 --> 02:26:26,960
So fucking good. 
Would you like us to spin the 

2911
02:26:26,960 --> 02:26:28,760
wheel of directors? 
Just once? 

2912
02:26:28,760 --> 02:26:30,560
Just once. 
I get that, don't spinning 

2913
02:26:30,560 --> 02:26:33,840
spinning. 
I can't really see it setting on

2914
02:26:33,840 --> 02:26:39,960
yellow it looks like and it's 
going to be John Mctiernan and 

2915
02:26:39,960 --> 02:26:41,560
Die Hard. 
And die, harden, loads of the 

2916
02:26:41,560 --> 02:26:43,240
stuff. 
Would he do a good job with 

2917
02:26:43,240 --> 02:26:45,320
this? 
I think probably, but it would 

2918
02:26:45,320 --> 02:26:46,840
be quite a. 
Good job. 

2919
02:26:47,040 --> 02:26:52,480
Thing that he would have made it
a more popularly consumable 

2920
02:26:52,480 --> 02:26:56,280
movie, if you get what I mean. 
Yeah, I I wouldn't go as far as 

2921
02:26:56,360 --> 02:26:59,440
as to to say he's made it. 
He would have made it wholly 

2922
02:26:59,440 --> 02:27:05,480
inaccurate, yeah, but he would 
have probably cared more about 

2923
02:27:05,480 --> 02:27:08,360
certain dramatic aspects rather 
than about historical. 

2924
02:27:08,640 --> 02:27:11,080
Accuracy. 
We wouldn't have, yeah, we 

2925
02:27:11,080 --> 02:27:13,120
wouldn't have spent as long in 
the Galapagos. 

2926
02:27:13,120 --> 02:27:16,240
I don't think we would have got 
as much development on Maturin's

2927
02:27:16,240 --> 02:27:19,360
character, would have focused 
more firmly on the on the ship 

2928
02:27:19,360 --> 02:27:21,280
combat. 
We probably wouldn't have got as

2929
02:27:21,280 --> 02:27:25,320
much excellent, excellent cello 
violin stuff. 

2930
02:27:25,320 --> 02:27:26,680
There'll be no rock. 
And we would have. 

2931
02:27:26,800 --> 02:27:32,680
Gotten more rigid back talk 
possibly, Yeah, we certainly 

2932
02:27:32,680 --> 02:27:36,280
wouldn't have got gotten several
miles of rope being made. 

2933
02:27:36,720 --> 02:27:37,720
Absolutely. 
Yeah. 

2934
02:27:38,560 --> 02:27:41,000
Mashrin would have fucking died 
and it would be in like I wish I

2935
02:27:41,000 --> 02:27:44,840
could have seen the Galapagos. 
I. 

2936
02:27:46,560 --> 02:27:49,520
Tell you what, though, in in 
order to get eh Mcteon attached 

2937
02:27:49,520 --> 02:27:52,600
through that, we've had way more
of a Hollywood kind of cast. 

2938
02:27:53,080 --> 02:27:56,120
Wouldn't that wouldn't have had 
like guys who'd been in been in 

2939
02:27:56,120 --> 02:27:59,200
like doctors and we're going to 
end up doing a few episodes of 

2940
02:27:59,200 --> 02:28:03,680
Spooks and people who were 
alumni of Highlander and stuff 

2941
02:28:03,840 --> 02:28:07,480
that would have gone hardcore in
the Hollywood, like fucking umm,

2942
02:28:07,520 --> 02:28:10,120
Toby fucking Toby McGuire would 
have been attached. 

2943
02:28:10,280 --> 02:28:13,680
It'd have been one of the 
midship and it'd have been 

2944
02:28:13,680 --> 02:28:17,400
Harlem because at that point in 
his life, old enough to be like 

2945
02:28:17,400 --> 02:28:21,080
the kind of feel son, you know? 
Yeah, it's not like after the 

2946
02:28:21,080 --> 02:28:23,840
Wonder Boys, isn't it? 
Yeah, and you would have had 

2947
02:28:23,840 --> 02:28:26,600
like Elijah Woods is one of the,
it's one of the midshipmen. 

2948
02:28:26,600 --> 02:28:29,040
Definitely. 
That's actually, that's 

2949
02:28:29,040 --> 02:28:31,640
something, didn't they? 
I think they actually just 

2950
02:28:31,680 --> 02:28:35,680
picked age appropriate actors 
for the ages of the people they 

2951
02:28:35,680 --> 02:28:37,840
were portraying. 
Is that something you see, 

2952
02:28:37,840 --> 02:28:40,880
especially when it comes to to 
young characters? 

2953
02:28:40,880 --> 02:28:44,760
You see so many early, these 
late 20s actors portraying 

2954
02:28:44,760 --> 02:28:46,160
teenagers. 
That's crazy, right? 

2955
02:28:46,160 --> 02:28:49,000
It's like Sidney Sweeney, a 30 
year old. 16 year old, Yeah. 

2956
02:28:49,920 --> 02:28:53,080
Yeah, yeah. 
You would have like Killer would

2957
02:28:53,080 --> 02:28:54,560
have been like Jason Lee or 
somebody. 

2958
02:28:54,560 --> 02:28:57,320
Oh my God, we could have put. 
Some air in the boat to be 

2959
02:28:57,320 --> 02:28:59,920
looked at. 
No man killer could be Ethan 

2960
02:28:59,920 --> 02:29:04,160
Supley. 
Yeah, fucking Ethan Supley holy.

2961
02:29:04,200 --> 02:29:07,320
Shit pre hand chief and Supley. 
Yeah, definitely, definitely pre

2962
02:29:07,320 --> 02:29:09,920
hand Chief and Supley. 
I think I wouldn't have had the 

2963
02:29:09,920 --> 02:29:14,320
same power to us, especially 
because it would have had it 

2964
02:29:14,320 --> 02:29:17,840
would be like a stacked, stacked
cast from attached to big 

2965
02:29:17,840 --> 02:29:19,400
Hollywood that. 
That's where that's where the 

2966
02:29:19,400 --> 02:29:21,680
budget goes. 
You would have they. 

2967
02:29:22,760 --> 02:29:24,680
Don't they don't see? 
No, they wouldn't do that. 

2968
02:29:24,800 --> 02:29:27,000
What will mean you've got, I 
mean, I mean on the insurance of

2969
02:29:27,000 --> 02:29:29,560
getting like a load of like 
Hollywood actors on, on, on 

2970
02:29:29,600 --> 02:29:32,160
literal ship at sea. 
That might be one of the reasons

2971
02:29:32,160 --> 02:29:35,360
why the shows like loads like 
British, British, like umm, 

2972
02:29:35,360 --> 02:29:37,840
weekend TV kind of people. 
I've done 2 episodes of the 

2973
02:29:37,840 --> 02:29:39,280
Bill. 
You won't be that expensive to 

2974
02:29:39,280 --> 02:29:42,320
ensure more than, I don't know, 
Jason Statham or whatever or 

2975
02:29:42,320 --> 02:29:44,560
like Bruce Willis or something 
like that. 

2976
02:29:44,600 --> 02:29:46,800
Who would, who would, who would,
who would play Lucky Jack? 

2977
02:29:46,880 --> 02:29:49,440
Who we're going to cut in the 
Mcdeanon's version, bearing in 

2978
02:29:49,440 --> 02:29:53,040
mind 2003 film was who was at 
the Reapex then? 

2979
02:29:54,280 --> 02:29:58,920
Who was at the Reapex in 2003? 
It would have been good for the 

2980
02:29:58,920 --> 02:30:00,800
role. 
Brad Pitt, age appropriate. 

2981
02:30:01,320 --> 02:30:02,920
Yeah, it seems to Troy run this 
time. 

2982
02:30:04,360 --> 02:30:09,320
Oh my God, imagine Tom Cruise. 
Oh my God, there's so much 

2983
02:30:09,320 --> 02:30:12,440
running. 
It's the way to run on the ship.

2984
02:30:12,800 --> 02:30:14,840
The ships are only 40 metres. 
Why are you running? 

2985
02:30:14,960 --> 02:30:17,640
That's like. 
I just wanted to stretch my 

2986
02:30:17,640 --> 02:30:19,760
legs, he says. 
He's in rods past him on the 

2987
02:30:19,760 --> 02:30:20,520
Galapagos. 
I just. 

2988
02:30:20,520 --> 02:30:21,960
Want to stretch my? 
Little laps. 

2989
02:30:24,240 --> 02:30:28,240
That bird flightless, isn't it? 
It ain't going nowhere. 

2990
02:30:30,080 --> 02:30:33,920
So yes, I'd know some maybe, 
maybe, maybe maybe that Bradley 

2991
02:30:33,920 --> 02:30:37,080
Pitts me Brad Pitt is the as 
lucky Jackie it's. 

2992
02:30:37,560 --> 02:30:39,640
An awesome movie. 
Normally that and like, you 

2993
02:30:39,640 --> 02:30:43,880
know, I would have to be like I 
would have to be USS Surprise. 

2994
02:30:44,560 --> 02:30:50,360
They'll have to find a way and 
the God damn British the push it

2995
02:30:50,360 --> 02:30:55,760
back to like 1776 and the fight 
in the British and the Galapagos

2996
02:30:55,760 --> 02:31:00,600
stuff is just like like it's 
like like they kind of discover 

2997
02:31:00,600 --> 02:31:03,080
the Galapagos Islands by 
accident and they're like the 

2998
02:31:03,080 --> 02:31:05,320
first people that discover them.
Like they're not even like doing

2999
02:31:05,320 --> 02:31:09,240
about like you must say baby. 
And then like the seal them the 

3000
02:31:09,240 --> 02:31:10,840
steel. 
I'm going to be drill for oil. 

3001
02:31:12,760 --> 02:31:15,960
So the so the whole like whale 
oil thing is just like no longer

3002
02:31:15,960 --> 02:31:18,840
relevant because they've got 
black gold baby Texas tea 

3003
02:31:19,200 --> 02:31:20,600
cursed. 
Yeah, OK. 

3004
02:31:20,920 --> 02:31:22,240
That was a good spin of the 
derps as well. 

3005
02:31:22,280 --> 02:31:25,560
That was notes from the peanut 
gallery. 

3006
02:31:25,920 --> 02:31:28,880
Letterboxed notes from the 
peanut gallery. 

3007
02:31:28,880 --> 02:31:32,080
But do this every episode now. 
This is one of the good people 

3008
02:31:32,080 --> 02:31:33,960
who use the website 
letterbox.com. 

3009
02:31:33,960 --> 02:31:37,920
Provide us with funny content. 
Five stars from Comrade Huey. 

3010
02:31:38,280 --> 02:31:40,440
I need everything. 
Full sail. 

3011
02:31:40,720 --> 02:31:46,320
Full sail. 
All caps in in bold and italics.

3012
02:31:46,320 --> 02:31:48,000
Then I'll even do that on the 
letterbox. 

3013
02:31:48,560 --> 02:31:50,920
Move those cannons to the stern.
Come on, you get to it. 

3014
02:31:50,920 --> 02:31:53,480
She's got a broadside bearing 
down on his full bore. 

3015
02:31:53,840 --> 02:31:56,480
All hands on deck. 
Clear the rig and hold fast at 

3016
02:31:56,480 --> 02:32:00,280
my word. 
Fly the collars with the boat. 

3017
02:32:00,880 --> 02:32:04,720
Seven O's Jesus. 4 1/2 stars. 
That's where Pippen went after 

3018
02:32:04,720 --> 02:32:10,200
the ring was destroyed. 
Five stars From someone called 

3019
02:32:10,200 --> 02:32:11,640
Margaret. 
I love men. 

3020
02:32:11,640 --> 02:32:13,320
Exclamation mark. 
I love men. 

3021
02:32:13,320 --> 02:32:15,600
And I love all capitals. 
Boots. 

3022
02:32:15,600 --> 02:32:18,880
Well, Margaret, I've got a 
career for you in His Majesty's 

3023
02:32:18,880 --> 02:32:23,440
wrong name. 
Five stars. 

3024
02:32:23,440 --> 02:32:26,680
What a miracle that we got a 
giant old tiny naval war movie 

3025
02:32:26,680 --> 02:32:29,160
that stops for a couple minutes 
so we can watch Russell Crowe 

3026
02:32:29,160 --> 02:32:31,920
and Paul Bettany have a violin. 
A cello duet. 

3027
02:32:32,040 --> 02:32:35,560
Agreed. 
Five stars from Benjamin. 

3028
02:32:35,560 --> 02:32:38,520
Not me Googling old Chip hot 
looks. 

3029
02:32:44,840 --> 02:32:47,240
I love movies where people are 
good at their jobs. 

3030
02:32:47,400 --> 02:32:50,000
Me too. 
And this movie has an entire 

3031
02:32:50,000 --> 02:32:56,160
17th century Royal British Navy 
ship full of them. 

3032
02:32:56,160 --> 02:33:00,160
Two exclamation marks brackets 
and they even sig hearty tunes 

3033
02:33:00,160 --> 02:33:03,040
of the high seas. 3 exclamation 
marks, close bracket. 

3034
02:33:03,120 --> 02:33:05,560
Four stars. 
My brother's been trying to get 

3035
02:33:05,560 --> 02:33:07,840
me to watch this for 18 years. 
All caps. 

3036
02:33:07,840 --> 02:33:11,160
He should have tried harder. 
A lot of all caps in these 

3037
02:33:11,160 --> 02:33:15,680
reviews. 5 stars. 
She's in her prime April 18, O 

3038
02:33:15,680 --> 02:33:17,080
55 stars. 
This one. 

3039
02:33:17,400 --> 02:33:20,680
Napoleon is master of Europe who
only toxic masculinity stands 

3040
02:33:20,680 --> 02:33:22,840
before him. 
The discourse is now a 

3041
02:33:22,840 --> 02:33:27,920
battlefield. 
HMS Surprise, 28 guns, 197 

3042
02:33:27,920 --> 02:33:31,520
brews. 
These are some high ass rated 

3043
02:33:31,520 --> 02:33:34,120
reviews as well. 
Four stars from Katherine 

3044
02:33:34,120 --> 02:33:36,120
Kruger. 
Unfortunately I must admit that 

3045
02:33:36,120 --> 02:33:41,520
dudes rock. 
Dudes do indeed rock. 

3046
02:33:41,640 --> 02:33:44,960
Someone called Stuart Wellington
just gives a heart rather than a

3047
02:33:44,960 --> 02:33:46,320
star rating. 
Else you can do. 

3048
02:33:46,320 --> 02:33:48,840
I missed a chance for sex 
because I was too busy 

3049
02:33:48,840 --> 02:33:50,720
rewatching this. 
March 9, Heart. 

3050
02:33:52,040 --> 02:33:56,440
I'm just manifesting the shaking
hands emoji in in my main palace

3051
02:33:56,440 --> 02:33:59,880
right now. 
Spending the time I did that for

3052
02:33:59,880 --> 02:34:01,080
the League of Extraordinary 
Gentlemen. 

3053
02:34:03,840 --> 02:34:06,160
Is that film within our remit? 
Probably not. 

3054
02:34:07,040 --> 02:34:08,760
No, no, we can still watch it, 
baby. 

3055
02:34:08,960 --> 02:34:13,320
Yeah, I'm still watching just a 
podcast about it for like, OK, 

3056
02:34:13,600 --> 02:34:16,680
an obvious choice for the dudes.
Rock movie, Mount Rushmore. 

3057
02:34:16,800 --> 02:34:20,800
Absolutely, I just want to give 
Mount Rushmore movies for dudes 

3058
02:34:20,800 --> 02:34:22,200
that rock, and it's a rock as 
well. 

3059
02:34:22,200 --> 02:34:25,800
So really Mount Rushmore needs 
repurposed just like replace it 

3060
02:34:25,800 --> 02:34:30,640
with with with still images of 
movies about dudes fucking rock.

3061
02:34:30,760 --> 02:34:33,120
Four stars. 
I now truly count as a dad 

3062
02:34:33,120 --> 02:34:35,640
because that band. 
And I'm mad that the that the 

3063
02:34:35,640 --> 02:34:38,040
intended franchise never took 
sale. 

3064
02:34:38,160 --> 02:34:41,480
Sorry, Ocean Warfare, where 
everyone is soaked, stressed, 

3065
02:34:41,480 --> 02:34:43,360
injured, and weirdly well and 
mad about it. 

3066
02:34:43,360 --> 02:34:47,080
Captain Jack would approve. 
I don't know if you mean Captain

3067
02:34:47,080 --> 02:34:51,560
Jack Sparrow or Jack or at this 
point, but I'm too afraid of. 

3068
02:34:51,560 --> 02:34:54,920
Captain Jack in my house. 
Someone called Priscilla Page 

3069
02:34:54,920 --> 02:34:57,160
asks the hard question. 
Best movie ever made. 

3070
02:34:58,520 --> 02:35:01,560
I love when men love men. 
Exclamation mark with their 

3071
02:35:01,560 --> 02:35:04,120
bodies and souls. 
Exclamation mark Hearts and 

3072
02:35:04,120 --> 02:35:05,560
mags. 
Exclamation mark. 

3073
02:35:05,680 --> 02:35:07,840
Huzzah. 
Exclamation mark says Someone 

3074
02:35:07,840 --> 02:35:11,640
called says says someone called.
Am I giving it a 4 1/2 star 

3075
02:35:11,640 --> 02:35:15,600
rating? 
4 1/2 stars from Jeremy 

3076
02:35:15,600 --> 02:35:17,360
Kaplowitz? 
I would do anything right now. 

3077
02:35:17,360 --> 02:35:20,560
I'd be hanging out with 100 of 
my best brews on an old shitty 

3078
02:35:20,560 --> 02:35:24,040
boat, drilling holes in our 
brains and writing about 

3079
02:35:24,040 --> 02:35:26,240
lizards. 
Shitty. 

3080
02:35:26,640 --> 02:35:28,080
She's in our prime, she's in 
our. 

3081
02:35:28,080 --> 02:35:29,560
Fucking prime. 
Exactly. 

3082
02:35:29,560 --> 02:35:32,520
Man punished as a boy for this 
guy. 

3083
02:35:33,360 --> 02:35:36,680
Jesus, Bettany. 
Oscar snub, says someone. 

3084
02:35:36,680 --> 02:35:39,520
Yeah, five stars. 
A movie about a bunch of very 

3085
02:35:39,520 --> 02:35:49,520
nice boys out on the high seas. 
Inarguable dudes, Dock says. 

3086
02:35:49,520 --> 02:35:53,160
Someone give it a 5 star. 
Well, clearly they don't. 

3087
02:35:53,160 --> 02:35:54,440
They refit. 
At sea they do. 

3088
02:35:54,440 --> 02:35:57,440
They do Refit at sea. 
Five stars in Callum Marsh. 

3089
02:35:57,640 --> 02:36:00,560
Me brackets, Nobias. 
I will never be a master and 

3090
02:36:00,560 --> 02:36:03,000
commander. 
Me brackets, phobias with the 

3091
02:36:03,000 --> 02:36:04,440
boys. 
Avasti lads. 

3092
02:36:04,440 --> 02:36:07,280
Beat the quarters, set the sails
to southwards, strike the top 

3093
02:36:07,280 --> 02:36:08,760
gallon. 
Do you want to see a guillotine 

3094
02:36:08,760 --> 02:36:11,040
in Piccadilly? 
For England, for home and for 

3095
02:36:11,040 --> 02:36:17,680
the prize, and we're going to 
end it with let's find something

3096
02:36:17,680 --> 02:36:19,800
nice and unhenged to finish it 
with and then we'll ask fucking 

3097
02:36:19,800 --> 02:36:21,720
questions about the CIA in 
Colombo. 

3098
02:36:21,720 --> 02:36:24,960
I guess. 
Fuck the Marvel Cinematic 

3099
02:36:24,960 --> 02:36:28,160
Universe, give us the Master and
Commander universe for four 

3100
02:36:28,160 --> 02:36:30,120
stars. 
Exactly. 

3101
02:36:31,200 --> 02:36:34,440
I want it. 
Is this film pro around ICIA? 

3102
02:36:34,760 --> 02:36:37,720
Bear in mind that that. 
Didn't exist for several 100. 

3103
02:36:37,720 --> 02:36:40,720
Years, but the Americans are 
arming Britain's enemies. 

3104
02:36:40,720 --> 02:36:42,640
I mean, that's. 
It's still going to be, but. 

3105
02:36:42,640 --> 02:36:46,320
This is, but this is, Yeah, this
is from the perspective of the 

3106
02:36:46,320 --> 02:36:49,360
Royal Navy, isn't it? 
So even if uniform America is 

3107
02:36:49,360 --> 02:36:50,520
doing that, they're barely 
mentioned. 

3108
02:36:50,520 --> 02:36:54,080
But I guess, yeah, she's arming,
arming the French. 

3109
02:36:55,640 --> 02:36:57,600
So I would say no. 
That's still mutual. 

3110
02:36:57,640 --> 02:37:00,440
That's the film. 
The film doesn't acknowledge the

3111
02:37:00,440 --> 02:37:04,080
existence of an agency of the 
American state that won't exist 

3112
02:37:04,080 --> 02:37:06,520
within 100 years. 
Would this film be better with 

3113
02:37:06,560 --> 02:37:10,560
with the Harrison Ford question?
President Jack Ryan President 

3114
02:37:10,560 --> 02:37:13,520
James Marshall. 
He knows I'm sorry calling Jack 

3115
02:37:13,520 --> 02:37:17,480
Ryan President Jack Ryan sorry 
doctor Jack Ryan President James

3116
02:37:17,480 --> 02:37:21,240
Marshall. 
Fucking hell, Doctor Fugitive 

3117
02:37:21,240 --> 02:37:23,320
guy whose name? 
Just Doctor Richard Kimble. 

3118
02:37:23,640 --> 02:37:24,840
Richard Kimble. 
Richard Kimble. 

3119
02:37:25,240 --> 02:37:27,240
Richard Kimble could replace 
Matt Sheeran. 

3120
02:37:28,520 --> 02:37:30,880
Wow. 
Yeah, and he's got experience 

3121
02:37:30,880 --> 02:37:33,360
with prosthetic limbs. 
He does indeed. 

3122
02:37:33,560 --> 02:37:36,120
He'd be. 
He'd be very useful on the ship,

3123
02:37:36,280 --> 02:37:38,720
but also he wouldn't make all 
the discoveries of animals 

3124
02:37:38,720 --> 02:37:40,040
because I don't think he cares 
that much. 

3125
02:37:41,440 --> 02:37:42,840
Yeah. 
So do you think about him the 

3126
02:37:43,040 --> 02:37:48,000
the the thought process to use 
the ship as a phasmid wouldn't 

3127
02:37:48,000 --> 02:37:50,160
have come about? 
I think you're absolutely right.

3128
02:37:50,160 --> 02:37:53,120
It would not have come about 
because that he gets everybody 

3129
02:37:53,120 --> 02:37:54,400
on the ship dead. 
So fuck that. 

3130
02:37:55,200 --> 02:38:00,240
Maybe, maybe President James 
Marshall would be more like OK 

3131
02:38:00,240 --> 02:38:03,080
with the Brits and wouldn't arm 
the French in the 1st place. 

3132
02:38:03,120 --> 02:38:06,080
I based that on literally 
nothing at all. 

3133
02:38:07,040 --> 02:38:10,120
Who was the US president at the 
time this film was set? 

3134
02:38:10,120 --> 02:38:11,720
Thomas Jefferson. 
Thomas. 

3135
02:38:11,720 --> 02:38:14,600
Jefferson was the president 
right? 

3136
02:38:14,840 --> 02:38:17,800
In 1805, motherfucker. 
Daniel Jefferson. 

3137
02:38:18,640 --> 02:38:24,320
And Colombo, would Peter Falk 
fit in in this movie? 

3138
02:38:24,320 --> 02:38:26,840
And if so, by we're going to put
him, he's obviously not wearing 

3139
02:38:26,840 --> 02:38:29,760
like The Dirty coat that he 
brought from home for Colombo. 

3140
02:38:29,880 --> 02:38:32,280
He's obviously dressed like you 
know. 

3141
02:38:32,400 --> 02:38:36,520
Period of previous. 
You're attire and he's got like 

3142
02:38:36,520 --> 02:38:38,600
a little fuck ass ponytail as 
well. 

3143
02:38:38,720 --> 02:38:42,320
Maybe depend on what his role is
in the film though. 

3144
02:38:42,600 --> 02:38:46,560
I could see him as a whaler. 
Oh yeah, that's a really good 

3145
02:38:46,560 --> 02:38:48,040
choice. 
He's the master. 

3146
02:38:48,040 --> 02:38:49,560
Is the master of the Albatross, 
isn't he? 

3147
02:38:49,680 --> 02:38:51,720
Yes, get in. 
That's fucking class. 

3148
02:38:51,720 --> 02:38:56,160
I love it. 
And he can just pop out as glass

3149
02:38:56,160 --> 02:39:00,320
eye and and just look look more 
kind of tough. 

3150
02:39:00,360 --> 02:39:02,680
He's just pops a glass eye out. 
One looks even more fucking 

3151
02:39:02,680 --> 02:39:04,800
tough. 
Yeah. 

3152
02:39:05,200 --> 02:39:06,560
So you want to see my impression
of Nelson? 

3153
02:39:08,520 --> 02:39:10,360
Amazing, I'm so. 
Nelson. 

3154
02:39:11,080 --> 02:39:14,200
Speaking of the impression of 
Nelson, I think it's funny that 

3155
02:39:14,200 --> 02:39:17,480
they put his dress uniform back 
on Jack when the action at the 

3156
02:39:17,480 --> 02:39:21,480
end starts, which is a very 
Nelson thing to do. 

3157
02:39:21,520 --> 02:39:23,840
Very Nelson to do. 
Just go ah I must find my 

3158
02:39:23,840 --> 02:39:27,480
biggest and shiniest hat with a 
diamond on it and my most gold 

3159
02:39:27,480 --> 02:39:30,680
liced beautiful. 
Because I'm going to be in close

3160
02:39:30,680 --> 02:39:31,720
quarters with a. 
Frog. 

3161
02:39:32,000 --> 02:39:34,480
Nothing, nothing bad can come 
from this. 

3162
02:39:34,480 --> 02:39:36,920
Wonderful stuff. 
Shooters do not exist. 

3163
02:39:37,400 --> 02:39:39,440
You support that. 
Here's the point out. 

3164
02:39:39,440 --> 02:39:42,640
From the one nerd listening I 
know that Nelson didn't lose his

3165
02:39:42,640 --> 02:39:43,640
eye. 
Just say that. 

3166
02:39:44,960 --> 02:39:46,760
We'll be turning a blind eye to 
that one. 

3167
02:39:47,120 --> 02:39:50,280
There you go, nice, you know, 
gifts catch up. 

3168
02:39:50,280 --> 02:39:54,920
So that's us towards the end of 
a another fantastic episode of 

3169
02:39:55,680 --> 02:39:58,520
clear and present dudes for only
all our films that we picked was

3170
02:39:58,720 --> 02:40:03,960
this is good. 
Up ahead, our next sort of 

3171
02:40:03,960 --> 02:40:08,640
midnight, midnight episode is 
going to be Jack Reacher versus 

3172
02:40:08,640 --> 02:40:13,320
Reacher, Jack Reacher, Reacher, 
Reacher round, Reacher on 

3173
02:40:13,320 --> 02:40:14,920
Reacher action. 
You're right. 

3174
02:40:15,680 --> 02:40:18,840
Well, I guess we kind of just 
talk about the two movies and 

3175
02:40:18,840 --> 02:40:23,680
the TV series in a vaguely 
disorganised rabble because I 

3176
02:40:23,680 --> 02:40:26,000
think in the 1st 2 minutes, 
we're going to say Tom Cruise is

3177
02:40:26,000 --> 02:40:27,320
really short and Alan Richard's 
really big. 

3178
02:40:27,320 --> 02:40:29,200
And I think that's going to be 
the main first event gone. 

3179
02:40:30,240 --> 02:40:32,400
And and then we'll probably talk
about the video of Alan 

3180
02:40:32,400 --> 02:40:34,680
Richardson Shin and his knee 
about just for like half an 

3181
02:40:34,680 --> 02:40:36,880
hour. 
And just like just like do like 

3182
02:40:36,880 --> 02:40:38,160
do like. 
Critique. 

3183
02:40:38,160 --> 02:40:41,560
Of it and stuff. 
I apologise for distributed 

3184
02:40:41,560 --> 02:40:43,520
being being British. 
What an embarrassment. 

3185
02:40:43,960 --> 02:40:46,320
Yeah, all right, cool. 
Otherwise, unless there's 

3186
02:40:46,320 --> 02:40:49,800
anybody got any any any any 
final loose rounds around the 

3187
02:40:49,800 --> 02:40:53,640
room before we end this meeting?
Oceans are still battlefields 

3188
02:40:53,920 --> 02:40:56,680
and this film is always going to
be fucking timeless, man. 

3189
02:40:56,760 --> 02:40:59,520
Yeah, totally agrees. 
Absolutely awesome film. 

3190
02:40:59,600 --> 02:41:02,200
If there's nothing else, in 
which case we've been. 

3191
02:41:03,040 --> 02:41:04,440
Clear.