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Hello and welcome back to Clear 
and Present Dudes, the podcast 

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where the knives smile before 
they cut. 

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I am Mike Dunbar. 
I'm joined as always by Rory 

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James O'Toole. 
Hello and Sonia Bjorkson. 

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Hello everyone. 
Tonight we are diving deep into 

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our beloved Jello adjacent 
cinema, an Italian film with a 

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rare Hollywood pedigree, 1973's 
Goncharov. 

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Yes, tonight we are going to 
Gaslight, Gatekeeper, Gilbos and

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Goncharov. 
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Also spoiler warning spoiler for
for 1973's Contrara. 

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If you haven't seen it, you 
know, wait a little bit. 

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We'll we'll be we'll be right 
here. 

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Come back in a couple of hours. 
Cool. 

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Right, guys, before I get into 
the plot stops, like what's your

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first impressions in this film? 
What's not the love? 

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Well, we're we're obviously 
still all waiting for Ghansharov

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to I have to use the sentence. 
Definitely one of the movies of 

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all time, at least initially. 
Also great form for for someone 

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not like me who has a tendency 
to sometimes be a bit of a 

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menswear guy. 
Thoroughly enjoyable. 

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Oh, sure. 
It's tremendously, totally right

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there. 
This is one of the horniest 

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films imaginable yet also not 
because there is a massive 

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amount of sexual tension between
people that the kind of 

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narrative would just. 
It would be, if you know what I 

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mean, It's like Ginsharov and 
Katya, you know, there is no 

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chemistry between them. 
Yeah. 

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They are meant to be the 
romantic leads. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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But because they are off on the 
road, romantic side quests as 

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Sunny said, costumes amazing, 
tensions just fantastic through 

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the whole thing. 
Literally I think civil shabbats

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one of our one of our top 2 or 
top three big screen rules. 

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Honestly the tension between her
and Sophia Loren is just mental.

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It's like. 
Yeah, this is. 

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This is great for her, isn't it?
Yeah, this is like quite early 

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in her career. 
This is like around sort of was 

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it 1973? 
So but she's just done the last 

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picture show in 71, doesn't she?
So she's come off the back of 

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that obviously pre taxi driver. 
So yeah, she's on the rise. 

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Really good time for her. 
Hey, Shall shall I put the 

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trailer on and then we'll come 
back and we'll go through it 

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properly? 
You are a time bomb. 

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Dig, dig. 
Digging. 

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And I have no intention of 
being. 

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Around for the boom. 
And now you should know I could 

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have killed you when I walked 
through the door. 

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Cool, right? 
So Goncharov 1973 is an Italian 

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American Co produced art house 
crime filler written by maybe 

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directed by Matteos Scheczy, 
stylized in the credits, really 

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weird. 
Produced by Dominico Pocacci, an

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executive produced but also 
maybe directed by Martin 

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Scorsese. 
And that was maybe an on de 

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plume. 
I couldn't find a lot of detail 

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about that. 
There's a lot of like 

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conflicting information online. 
But either way, he was 

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incredibly involved in the 
production. 

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Starring Robert De Niro as the 
eponymous Celestroniero 

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Koncharov and Co. 
Starring A stacked cast 

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including Cybil Shepherd, Al 
Pacino, Harvey Katel, Gene 

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Hackman, John Kazale, Sofia 
Loren, an incredibly 

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unaccredited Linda Carr. 
We'll get into that in a bit. 

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Yeah, wow. 
Film follows the eponymous 

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Koncharov, a crime boss from 
Moscow looking to expand his 

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empire by coming back to maybe 
Naples with his wife, who is a 

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Cybil Shepherd, and he intends 
to set up his own rival criminal

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empire against the Neapolitan 
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As you mentioned, Rory, the 
film's pretty Derek. 

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It's time for showing some queer
love stories. 

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So there's a we'll get into it. 
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between Harvey Cattell and and 
Robert De Niro. 

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There's a thing between Sapira 
Renn and Cybil Shepherd. 

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There's a thing between John 
Kazali and everybody. 

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John Kazali, but. 
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Really. 
Just there like, you know, Yeah,

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he wants. 
He's a very deeply lonely person

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and he's trying to collect with 
everybody here can. 

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Yeah, Really, really, really 
random. 

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The film's production was 
tumultuous for numerous issues 

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that I'm sure we'll discuss in 
in due course regarding like 

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distribution rights, conflicting
filming projects for the other 

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lead actors. 
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Sensitive issues. 
The Soviet Union, like 

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government got involved at one 
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So yeah, like film was was more 
or less lost for a long time. 

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Got a big resurgence in the 90s.
Really weird. 

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This is a really weird detail. 
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distributing VHS bootlegs of it.
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hosting like showings of it 
during the 1994 Cannes Film 

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Festival, like in his hotel, 
which apparently really pissed 

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off Quintero Tino really funny. 
But yeah, so anyway, this year 

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it is getting a Criterion 
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And I think the four hour cuts I
don't think is restored, but the

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four hour cut is on the disc as 
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And Scorsese, he's been really 
massively involved in that 

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because he's massively involved 
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So we're doing that, but we're 
not, we haven't watched the four

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hour cut. 
We have watched the original two

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hour and 18 minute cut, which is
enough. 

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So, so yeah, that's that's my 
introduction to like what the 

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film is. 
Dude, I thought this film barely

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made sense, Like, and I don't 
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I mean it in the same way that 
like mean streets doesn't really

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make a huge deal of sense to me 
when I watch it. 

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There's a lot going on. 
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Is it a thriller? 
Is it really about the crime? 

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Is it about the passion? 
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those weird like occurring 
motifs that seem a bit 

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heavy-handed now in like our 
modern view, but at the time 

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we're probably standard business
like the clocks and the 

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cigarettes and like the music 
and stuff. 

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The the clock ticking freaking 
shower off full kind of motif is

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something that it really bangs 
the drum about a lot. 

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I mean, it works, It works, but 
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slip it into a film that was 
made and like current, yeah, you

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cannot actually have you handed 
clock symbolism and certain 

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characters wearing a watch and 
almost every scene but a pivotal

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one, that kind of thing and 
stuff like that, you know? 

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Yeah, yeah, I took it at Ryan's 
Field and it's not the first 

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time we're going to talk about 
this film in Serpico, which was 

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being made at the same time. 
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So both films go out in 1973. 
Both films were produced in the 

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summer of 72, right. 
Albertina was filming both. 

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That film starts anyway with 
like a really simple opening 

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credit, like a black screen, 
just text on there and like the 

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wailing of like a a police siren
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You don't know what it is. 
Turns out it's in an ambulance 

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because it's it's it's the 
titular Cyprocal of being like 

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rushed off spots of being shot 
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This is a similar sort of thing 
where you get like, well, I'll 

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just start. 
So Kotorov opens on a on a rain 

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suit night in Naples and we get 
like a it's not like steady 

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calm. 
It's like handhelds Cam kind of 

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walking through the narrow 
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lights and we get like you get 
like a view that you got to view

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the docks. 
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seeing the docks in this film as
you like doc creams loom of the 

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harbour, you get like silhouette
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And then we get like it's all 
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It's all like street noise. 
And then we get to like a bit of

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a montage of like tonnes of 
clocks, like the clock tower 

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clock, like people's 
wristwatches clocks. 

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There's a clock in a bar and 
there's like tick. 

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And sound in the tick from tick 
and Chorley sound isn't there, 

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it's. 
Yeah, it's like, yeah. 

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And it's it's really like 
oppressive and train doors 

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opening. 
And then we got like the feet 

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stepping out onto the platform. 
You get like another shot of 

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like the clock on the train 
platform. 

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And then we get a shot of like a
wristwatch, which we're going to

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see the same wristwatch. 
We're going to see it loads. 

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It's fucking crazy and he's 
walking in a kind of like 

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TikTok, TikTok rhythm as well 
and like like the the gains 

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obviously right up on the boom 
magnet here is here his feet and

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it's like we get it, man clocks.
Blocks. 

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Yeah. 
And like, yeah. 

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And as that's going on, this is 
this is really confusing. 

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So there's like, So what we're 
what we're seeing is control of 

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getting off a train in Naples, 
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Meanwhile, we're getting like a 
voice over. 

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But it's not from control of, 
it's from, it's from, it's from 

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Harvey Ketel's character, Andre 
Didano. 

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Or you might get called the 
banker during the movie as well.

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And so he's saying like love, 
truth, power, three things men 

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spend their whole lives chasing.
Some men think if they catch one

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of them, the others will follow.
But Naples is a city that eats 

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those kind of men. 
It doesn't matter where you came

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from, if you're rich or poor, 
doesn't matter if it came here 

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as a Papa or a king, sooner or 
later the sooner reminds you of 

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something. 
Time always wins since we can 

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clocks right. 
The story is about a man who 

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thought he could have runtime 
his name was Gunter of for a 

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while he almost did. 
And that's, and then we got the 

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camera like pan up and it's like
Rob De Niro there with his 

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moustache because he's got a 
moustache in this movie. 

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You look so fucking cool in this
film, man. 

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Yeah yeah he's like bro, like 
totally in like 2 of the birds 

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yeah really, really, really 
stops you on and then it's like 

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bumps Gunter of total card yeah,
wild. 

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And then it gets really 
confusing because then the next 

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thing you see is like 20 years 
earlier and it's like 22 kids in

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like rags, basically like 
running around the streets of 

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like, undisclosed Eastern 
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I think. 
I think it's obviously meant to 

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be like Moscow, but it doesn't. 
It doesn't say like Moscow 1953.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
So it's like 2-2 teenage kids 

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running for the the alley. 
One of them's sculpture of the 

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other one is Andre. 
We are, I guess, expected to 

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assume, but it's again, not not 
not totally clear. 

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And I don't know if you caught 
this, but like the the kids who 

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are playing like the young 
Gunter of an Andrea, like it's 

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really it's really randomness. 
I had a double check, so I 

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couldn't believe it. 
One of them is Stanley Tucci 

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who's like 13 and the one is 
fuck. 

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Off. 
And the other one mate, this is 

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going to blew a fucking like the
one is John Lucas Amo. 

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This was 13 and they look fuck 
all like because that which is 

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why it was so confusing because 
like what the fuck are he's 

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doing? 
How the fuck did they get cast 

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in this film at that age? 
That's so weird. 

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And they get out and I don't 
know where they filmed this. 

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They probably filmed in New 
York, but it's obviously meant 

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to look like Moscow or 
something. 

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Yeah. 
But they just. 

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Put like the Russian philtre 
over the camera. 

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Yeah, just like it's a bit blue.
It's a bit like. 

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Yeah, it's, it's, it's a bit 
blue, the founded area, but 

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there's like whether there's 
whether there's just some like a

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bit more like standing water on 
the asphalt and stuff and like, 

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and like there's more broken 
windows and. 

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Shit, it was cool. 
And like, yeah, like I see. 

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Breath and the fucking stop with
the feet and that just to just 

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to like lay down the whole cool 
thing. 

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Yeah, it's just a little strum 
of a fucking Bala Laker in the 

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background, but it's like Rush, 
I felt a replied. 

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Ambient supplies, that's all. 
So you get that you don't seem 

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up close here. 
It's not it wasn't like I saw 

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them as like outstanding Tuchy. 
They're quite far out when I go 

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and they're just like a kind of 
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And it's the two kids and like 
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like a a stall guy at a market. 
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like shoplifting quietly. 
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soon as the guy catches them, 
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way, which I thought was weird, 
like I took go so long. 

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They like duck into an alleyway.
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kids get stopped because of the 
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And it's this big tall dude who 
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What's his name? 
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because like, he's obviously 
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He's like he's got like a suit 
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He looks like together, but he's
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He's got like a like a what 
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face. 
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like, if you're going to steal, 
find your own turf, you little 

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pigs, or, or join a gang. 
Find your own turf, you little 

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pigs. 
I love them, but it's an 

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absolute bar. 
And he's like, I recommend, I 

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recommend getting some 
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assumes that they like join a 

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gang and that's how their life 
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crime anyway, because it would 
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each other a long time as well. 
It's still not really clear that

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like the guy overheard at the 
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guy who's not being picked like 
bizarre with 13 year olds. 

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So I felt that really confusing 
in my first. 

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Yeah, right, absolutely. 
Yeah, it was like, but obviously

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I mean straight up it took me a 
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walkers watches because it takes
it took me watching it a couple 

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of times to fully I think get 
what was going on with it. 

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Of course, of course for an 
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like identify some guns and some
of the kind of more like less 

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less focused kind of scenes of 
face interest from the TV. 

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But yeah I I think I worked it 
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I think. 
Viewings. 

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It's, I mean, it's not like 
Tenet or anything. 

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It's not like totally mental. 
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like there's a lot of 
interpretation. 

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Good, odd. 
Definitely, definitely. 

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That's the next scene, for 
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me. 
So it cuts back to the present 

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day, but it's not like the 
present day. 

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It's like 1919 years, 11 months,
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because it's, because it's like,
it's like, it's like what 

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happened immediately before 
Gontarov got off the train 

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because they're back on the 
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doesn't fully disengage her from
the film. 

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It isn't too much for speed bump
money watching it. 

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It's still I think a well put 
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chronology of its storytelling. 
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weird, but it's not too jarring,
you know? 

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Yeah, yeah, so you get So what 
it does it just the classic like

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cut forward to that 
presentation, see where they are

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now from those humble 
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Gun drops like in the train car.
He's he's all suited birds. 

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He sat next to it like Iya, but 
you can tell the same guy 

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because he's all the now, but 
he's still got the scar. 

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And they are having like a 
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conversation about how they're 
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foothold in Naples, particularly
the harbours, lucrative 

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smuggling routes, which is like 
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like smuggling of like booze and
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stuff. 
Doesn't really say yet. 

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Yeah, like it's kind of like, 
it's kind of like, like it's a 

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generic crime set up, isn't it? 
It's almost as effect in the 

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storytelling. 
The actual crimes don't kind of 

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matter. 
Yeah, exactly that. 

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So you kind of get that. 
So he's like somebody already 

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owns this town kind of thing. 
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And then as they say that it 
like cuts to like the other side

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of town and we get like our 
first scene of Al Pacino as 

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crime boss Mario Ambrosini. 
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This is this is wild. 
So this is, as I mentioned 

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earlier on, this is like Al 
Pacino. 

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He's done The Godfather. 
Serbiko is is definitely 73. 

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So he's shooting that at the 
same time as he's shooting this,

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which is great. 
Does need some kind of weird 

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continuity issues with a Pacino 
where they have to kind of cover

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the fact that he's got a beard. 
Yeah. 

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So like, all right. 
So the day is during the 

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shooting of Serpico. 
That film was filmed 

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sequentially, like in the order 
it happened. 

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Right. 
Yeah, got you. 

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Because it starts with his 
career as a young New York 

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Police cop and he's like clean 
shaven and he just like 

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undercover work and he gets like
a moustache. 

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And then he goes like full. 
I don't know how you I was 

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describe it. 
He was like full pirate. 

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He has like big flowy shirts, 
big beard like wears big hats, 

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has has an earring, owns a bird 
like. 

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He basically turns into that 
like a guy who's like 

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chronically undercover from 
Brooklyn 99, right? 

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The guy who's like just a total 
fucking psycho. 

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The one. 
Who's going out with Diaz? 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
It's just, it's just in 

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Matsukas's Pimento. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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It's fucking brilliant. 
Yeah, that's what he does. 

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So you'd already sung us that 
movie. 

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So this is a weird one. 
So the production here, I think 

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in the in the US, there was some
kind of weird deal where it was,

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it was distributed through like 
De Laurentiis and but Serbico 

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was like actually produced by 
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And he'd already signed up for 
that. 

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It's a Sydney Glimet film, 1973.
And he already signed up for 

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that. 
And he was shooting that 

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substantially on his contract. 
And then he had the opportunity 

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to work on this kind of came in 
as a super sub because he 

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already worked with some of the 
people in this before. 

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Like, I think he really wanted 
to work with De Niro, hadn't had

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a chance to work with him yet. 
Obviously he's right high off 

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like the Godfather coupler and 
all that kind of stuff. 

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So he wanted to crime again. 
Yeah. 

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So he agrees to do this, but 
then he has to keep flying 

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backwards, of course, between 
New York and then the location 

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shoots in Naples. 
And there's some stuff he has to

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do in New York in a separate 
little set with a second 

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director. 
Right. 

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So we we meet Marion Bruschini. 
He, of course, is another like, 

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you know, standard crime boss, 
smart, dressed in his club kind 

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of thing. 
He's got an office. 

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He's you just kind of see him 
running the place. 

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And I think he's talking to 
someone off screen about like 

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he's heard the word that like 
Russia's coming for his turf 

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kind of thing. 
And that's it. 

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It's like it's really basic 
controls gets off the train. 

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He's talking to Ilya and he 
talks about his wife. 

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His wife had already come to 
Naples. 

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She's been here for a little 
while. 

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He was taking care of business 
back in like, I guess Moscow 

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doesn't really say that Ilya. 
I think he knows Katya. 

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So I think, I think the idea is 
a lot of people in the 

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organisation like obviously know
Gun Trove and Katya because like

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they're like kind of the royal 
family sort of thing. 

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And I think Ilya's known Guntrov
obviously since he was like a, a

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kid. 
So he feels he feels emboldened 

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enough to like give him the real
picture, you know, So he says, 

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like when you stayed behind, you
left behind more than you know, 

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she's too good a woman for you, 
Guntrov. 

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I think you know this already. 
And Guntrov doesn't say 

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anything. 
Yeah, I love his lack of 

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reaction and and then not seeing
it's like it's credible. 

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It's a weird performance, isn't 
it? 

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From, from Deniro? 
He's right. 

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Very laconic. 
He doesn't say it very much. 

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It's it's kind of not like him 
like he's he's got this dynamism

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about him even even in his for 
one of the better words later 

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years. 
Like I think he's fucking 

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tremendous in the mini series 0 
day that came out last year or 

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the year before. 
He plays like an ex president of

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the United States who gets 
pulled in to run this like run 

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this like kind of 
counterterrorism operation 

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against this like massive cyber 
attack thing. 

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And he's fucking brilliant. 
It's so good, man. 

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And it's like this is energy. 
There's dynamism. 

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Like he's like he's like 
threatening a water board some 

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guy. 
And it's like he's a 

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legitimately scary man even as 
currently age. 

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And he's dynamic, he's energetic
and he's really just laconic in 

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this film. 
Like you said, he's that's a 

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down back performance that that 
works in an uncanny valley kind 

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of way because it's like that's 
De Niro, but it's not. 

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Our it's a bit like, well, you 
know what we want to, we want to

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of Travis, Travis Bickle, right?
Yeah. 

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Resources is going to come a few
years later. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Travis Bickle, though, gets to, 

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like, explode it into the front,
doesn't he? 

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Yeah, Yeah. 
And and I don't know if Contra 

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truly gets to, like, cast off 
his shackles. 

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He kind of stays. 
I don't think he's the same guy 

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always at the end. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
It's a really flat arc, which is

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weird because he's a particular 
character when actually really, 

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for me, the the the the real 
focus of the film is either 

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either Catcher, right, or either
your boy Andre. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, the ones who get the most 

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kind of fluctuation. 
I think in the story you only 

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get a couple of scenes, but I 
speak, Joe gets more to do I 

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speak. 
Joe the fan favourite as well. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Man. 

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Meeting you from the train 
station is Andrea Adidano, who 

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is like obviously they were like
street that's together. 

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Now he's like this refined 
financial opera. 

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He's known for the criminal 
world as the banker US elegant 

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suit. 
He's kind of he's he's a mob 

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accountant who I think the 
Russian will be already 

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installed in in the area to kind
of get a little land and now 

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he's and now he's they're going 
to meet up and stuff. 

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Obviously that's like the top 
level story. 

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What what hasn't kind of been 
explained yet is that Andre's 

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already LinkedIn with the 
Nepalitan mafia and he's already

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kind of like, this all happened 
like before this the film 

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started. 
He's already portrayed. 

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He's already portrayed control 
like the first time. 

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Yeah, here, this flips. 
I mean, I again, I don't like 

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watching several times to figure
out what's going on. 

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This film like flips and flops 
several times and Andre 

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basically betrays everybody at 
some point. 

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Really the character. 
Absolutely mental, man. 

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It's like this film, kind of. 
It almost seems like the film 

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expects you to know a lot about 
backgrounds of characters and 

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stuff more than just there was 
St rats together kind of thing. 

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The the film kind of expects the
viewer to almost confabulate 

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what's going on and and it's 
crazy. 

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It's like it could have done 
more storytelling. 

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Yeah. 
Or it could have just gone in 

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with none, but instead it almost
comes out like, hey, why don't 

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you make up what you think 
happened in the past? 

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Why don't you confabulate it 
within your head? 

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Man, what was? 
Really going on? 

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What's up with you? 
Yeah, all that stuff. 

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It's it's wild. 
There aren't any. 

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Yeah. 
And it's not like forthcoming 

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with the clues. 
So like when Gun Trove and Andre

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meet, it's really warm. 
Like he puts him on the arm. 

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Yeah. 
Again, like for for like a it's 

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really warm for like a such a 
state performance, you know, 

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puts him on the arm and he's 
like Andre, my brother kind of 

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thing. 
Like, how is the city shooting 

447
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:06,800
you? 
And he goes like Naples. 

448
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,520
He says it's a city that eats 
the week. 

449
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,240
Gun Trove and Andre talk about 
their like their operation. 

450
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,720
They walk around like a a 
warehouse. 

451
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,080
Some of the minor workers are 
there and kind of spot him. 

452
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,720
And there's a little bit of 
like, ADR off screen of like, 

453
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,880
he's the man who survived the 
fires of Moscow. 

454
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,640
Survived the fires of Moscow. 
That's crazy in itself because I

455
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,880
almost took that line. 
And being there like you survive

456
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,880
like both the like, political 
suppression of the crime gangs 

457
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,960
and also like the literal like, 
combat between various factions 

458
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,280
of the Bratzo or whatever, or 
the Vodiff Zagonya, if that's 

459
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,640
what you're going to call them. 
That kind of thing. 

460
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,200
You know, Like it's like he 
survived double. 

461
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,240
He survived the brutality of the
Moscow regime and he survived 

462
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,400
his peers coming after. 
Him not sure when this film was 

463
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,080
set like like is this film set 
for the present day? 

464
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,160
So they they shoot in 72 it's 
going to be set in 72 or is it 

465
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,560
set like fucking 61? 
There's a set in like 53 is 

466
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,360
Stalin just died like. 
It's interesting. 

467
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:06,200
I mean even if it was set at 
that point, he would have he the

468
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,200
main card himself would have be.
I mean, how old do you think he 

469
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,160
is in the film? 
How? 

470
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,880
How old was was De Niro when he 
made this movie? 

471
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,480
So he's 3030 years old when this
one comes out. 

472
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,520
So yeah, he's assuming the film 
is set when it's shot. 

473
00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:26,400
Yeah, as far as dating it with 
like the weaponry and stuff 

474
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,840
involved, I can't fully place a 
date on it. 

475
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,680
But there's nothing that's like 
a future weapon brought out in 

476
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,040
1872 or whatever. 
Like I mean it's like because 

477
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,400
iconically carries Thompson gun,
Katya uses Nagant, I think. 

478
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,280
I mean in 97 revolver I should 
see in Holden one-on-one scene, 

479
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,960
Brett, a model, I want to say 
934 or something, the little 22 

480
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,000
long rifle one because it's a 22
bounce around death round. 

481
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:58,360
So there's nothing there that's 
like newer than like I would say

482
00:23:58,360 --> 00:24:02,680
the 50s, but it doesn't. 
But it doesn't feel like the 

483
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,080
film set then because the cars 
and stuff so. 

484
00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:06,760
It's yeah, it's tricky, isn't 
it? 

485
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,120
I was thinking like what cars is
everything I was going to look 

486
00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:11,600
at. 
So like I, I don't know what 

487
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,120
cars. 
What I was going to say is what 

488
00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:17,280
we really did is like in Marisa 
Tomei from like My Cousin Vinny 

489
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,720
to come and say here like like 
identify the cars or as based on

490
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:25,040
like tyre tracks and stuff. 
Oh man, the defence is wrong. 

491
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,040
So good, Ricardo. 
Maybe it's too equal. 

492
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,600
Left tie marks that pause 
attraction. 

493
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,600
You can't be close to marks 
without pause attraction. 

494
00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:35,240
So good my. 
God. 

495
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,560
Yeah, you might be hot, but you 
miss a Tomei hot. 

496
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,080
In in the words of George 
Costanza, Marissa Tomei, that's.

497
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,760
So good, man. 
OK. 

498
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,920
So we've had a bunch of scenes 
and then we go to it's a casino 

499
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,480
scene. 
Yes. 

500
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,600
Yeah, it's OCK worker. 
It's OCK worker. 

501
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,080
Sorry. 
Before that, so I skipped a bit.

502
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,760
I was to this. 
Yeah. 

503
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:01,000
So before that we also got like 
the inspection of the warehouse 

504
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:06,440
from Inspector Valeri Mikhailov.
Yeah, by who was inexplicably 

505
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,680
Russian. 
It's so wild, right? 

506
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,280
He's wearing his fucking ushanka
in Italy. 

507
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,800
It's it's fucking. 
Battle. 

508
00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:16,400
Doesn't make any sense. 
Like is he an Italian policeman?

509
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,120
Is he like a Russian soldier? 
Like, I have no idea who he is, 

510
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,560
but I do know he said he's 
Hollywood's holiest man. 

511
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,480
Gene Hackman, right? 
God, God, God, rest his soul. 

512
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,560
Yeah. 
Yeah, it is. 

513
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:29,880
It is wild. 
That baffled me. 

514
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,880
It's like there is no way that 
the police forces of the Soviet 

515
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,240
Union would send the the fucking
cop over in like a red heat. 

516
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,000
Kind of such a witch. 
I mean, that's a whole different

517
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,800
movie. 
If this was like a fucking 

518
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,720
action buddy comedy in which an 
Italian competent and a Soviet 

519
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,000
cop tried to take down gunshot 
off, you know, it's like that 

520
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,360
wouldn't have been a good film. 
Like, I don't understand, like 

521
00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:54,160
his remit and I don't think it's
right. 

522
00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:56,440
Here's the thing. 
The there's obviously the four 

523
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,360
hour cut, which we haven't 
watched. 

524
00:25:57,360 --> 00:25:58,040
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

525
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,200
There's also rumours online of 
like a nine hour cut which is 

526
00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:06,120
which is which is insane. 
Directed by the ghost of Sergey 

527
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,680
Aisles style. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and and 

528
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,920
whenever, whenever, like a plot 
T So this comes up. 

529
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,000
I just think it must be in the 
four hour cut or it must be in 

530
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,360
an hour cut. 
Like there's there's so like, 

531
00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:18,760
what the fuck is going on 
anyway? 

532
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,200
Mikhilov is is like at the 
warehouse. 

533
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,800
He's like he's obviously on the 
case. 

534
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,000
Like he knows this is the 
beginning of the smoking 

535
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,080
operation and he knows that he 
like, you know, it's a classic 

536
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,200
thing where the cop knows the 
bad guys are are guilty. 

537
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,600
He just needs to prove it. 
So he needs to like find a 

538
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,160
smoking gun to a raid or that 
kind of thing. 

539
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,720
But he's there all the time. 
This seems like very much like 

540
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,440
business as usual. 
They pretty much have to fuck 

541
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,120
off. 
And he gets like, has a bit of 

542
00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:44,080
like a rude back and forwards 
with like one of the dock 

543
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,160
workers. 
And then and then he's basically

544
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,600
sent pack it after he punches a 
guy. 

545
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,520
He punches a guy in the face. 
Yeah. 

546
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,400
And he's like, I'm the fucking 
law in this town. 

547
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,360
And then they all laugh at him. 
And then he like walks away and 

548
00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:55,880
they're all like, I think he put
down. 

549
00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,320
I think he put down like like. 
It's fucking amazing man. 

550
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,920
Like it's inventioned. 
Yeah, he is totally inventioned 

551
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,200
and then he gets into his little
Italian police car, which makes 

552
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,800
not making sense. 
No sense at all. 

553
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,400
It's like it should be a beat 
ass fucking larder with like 

554
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,400
Moscow number plates or 
something and he just drives 

555
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,840
away listening to like the 
fucking red. 

556
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,720
I'll be choir on it's eight 
track player. 

557
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,280
Yeah. 
So he's kind of he's actually 

558
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,920
like the the, the Frank Zipper 
of the film because he's like 

559
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,760
the one I thought it makes no 
sense. 

560
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,280
He's Russian. 
He's like, he's like the one 

561
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,160
honest cop of the movie. 
So like he refuses the bribe. 

562
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,000
So they try and bribe him, but 
they do it like as if they've 

563
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,000
done it 1000 times before and 
they like they'll know he'll 

564
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,240
reject it. 
So he like he basically takes 

565
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,640
the envelope and like just 
throws it like into the into 

566
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,840
into the water and then punches 
the guy in the face. 

567
00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:44,160
I mean, it's a slamming 
indictment of like the Italian 

568
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,400
police force that the only, only
good cop in Italy is some 

569
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,640
fucking Russian guy who's there 
because reasons, because that 

570
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,560
narrative needs would be there. 
Yeah, yeah. 

571
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,840
It's ridiculous. 
Yeah. 

572
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,280
So he gets into his car, he's 
he's driving away. 

573
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:00,360
He's got, he's a little 
assistant. 

574
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,880
He was an Italian actor. 
I don't know what his name is or

575
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,320
he was kind of his predator. 
He is. 

576
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,920
I forget this guy's name but I 
checked and he hasn't been in 

577
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,320
any Jello films. 
So yeah, no interest in 

578
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,720
monitoring his career further. 
Well. 

579
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,640
It doesn't matter because we 
barely see him again. 

580
00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:17,560
We see him in this. 
We see him in this scene and we 

581
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:18,720
see him. 
I think there's a scene where 

582
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,320
like a body is discovered later 
on and he's back there again 

583
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,840
with like, the forensics. 
But like, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

584
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,640
So he's here at ABC says, like, 
have you heard that the the 

585
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,960
Kardashians have arrived? 
You must have known that kind of

586
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,000
thing. 
And he's like our visitor from 

587
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,720
the east didn't come here for 
the weather. 

588
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,240
And then then he'd be like 
laughs. 

589
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,800
He was like, never the Jew 
because he points at the 

590
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,400
Shanker. 
But yeah. 

591
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,800
And that's, that's it. 
So we've met Gene Hackman. 

592
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,760
Yeah. 
Right now we're in Mario's 

593
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,040
casino club. 
So again, like, really confusing

594
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,560
storytelling here. 
So we haven't seen Katya yet. 

595
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,320
So this is how we are introduced
to Katya. 

596
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,920
And she's like a major character
in the film. 

597
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,200
But like, we see her for the 
first time just like 

598
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,360
inexplicably, like on Gunter of 
his arm. 

599
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,920
They've talked about it, but we 
haven't seen her. 

600
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,960
So yeah, she's she's literally 
just there. 

601
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,240
They walk inside this club. 
The club is like dark, like dini

602
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,960
lit like it's all like drenched 
in red that there's like some 

603
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,400
sort of like Italian jazz, 
little like. 

604
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,520
Jello Jazz. 
Yeah, like it's like like 4 

605
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,760
piece, like on the stage, Yeah. 
And expected believe there's 

606
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,920
like a couple of dancers, one 
which is fucking Lynda Carter. 

607
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,440
I know that's mental. 
What the fuck did you did? 

608
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,760
You owe someone a favour. 
I mean, you know, man, 

609
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,120
safeguard. 
I'm not going, I'm not going to,

610
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,560
you know, be be upset and then I
can't be on the screen because, 

611
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,800
you know, but. 
So she's like in a sequin dress.

612
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,160
There's another woman next door 
who's in a really similar sequin

613
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,800
dress, except she's also got 
like the Chiquisa banana kind of

614
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,000
headdress with like fruit and 
veg. 

615
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,200
It's almost as if this is like 
written, it's like some kind of 

616
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,680
like fever dream of what the 
fucking 11 year old Kinsharov 

617
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,840
thinks capitalism looks like. 
Like, like he's living in, he's 

618
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,000
living in just some horrible 
part of like Soviet Russia. 

619
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,640
And he's like thinking, yeah, 
what does the capitalist scum 

620
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,280
doing with the banana 
headdresses and the Lynda Carter

621
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,880
and the beautiful bottom, you 
know? 

622
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,200
So we walk in and it's like the 
classic kind of thing, like 

623
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,960
you've got to be out in society.
You go if you're showing. 

624
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,440
So she's like dressed to the 
nines. 

625
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,720
He's like in a sharp suit as 
always. 

626
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,960
He walks in and he's kind of 
scooping the place out. 

627
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,760
The first thing we see this is 
like Mario Ambrosini and him 

628
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,800
meeting. 
So like he's like at a table 

629
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,600
like in like a bufferio, like a 
little VIP type section. 

630
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,600
And he's got like, you know, all
these two of these around him 

631
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:26,960
and stuff. 
And he's got like a girl on his 

632
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,000
arm who'd be doing even like, 
I'm not sure we see again. 

633
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,920
Yeah. 
And there's a bit where like 

634
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,280
they look at each other, they 
look at each other kind of 

635
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,160
thing. 
What happens a control of like 

636
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,160
finds a table, 1 of Ambrosini's 
guys comes over and it's like Mr

637
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,600
Ambrosin, you would like to have
a word. 

638
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,520
He's taking care of your drinks 
kind of thing, you know, like 

639
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,320
points towards like Al Pacino 
and he's there. 

640
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,960
You know that guy, like 
Ambrosino's guy, and that's an 

641
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,200
actual Italian actor as well. 
I forget as the amount, but I 

642
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,960
looked him in. 
He was in one of our film, which

643
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,120
was a jello film. 10 years 
later, he was in this incredibly

644
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,480
fucking violent Jello film 
called Las Trotsino and it's 

645
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,520
horrific. 
I've heard like it literally had

646
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,440
like a theatre release in in 
Italy and that was this. 

647
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,440
And I've, I've heard it's just 
insanely violent. 

648
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,560
So I want to hunt it down one 
day. 

649
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,720
But yeah, that's the only Jello 
link really this film has. 

650
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,440
I'm sorry, but you know, I'm the
Jello mentioned guy. 

651
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:17,920
Yeah. 
That's not seen though. 

652
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,080
Yeah, that's cool. 
It's the blackmailer, I think. 

653
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,840
In Italian, Yeah. 
Yeah, but it that's cool. 

654
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,640
Yeah. 
So I didn't, I didn't recognise 

655
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,840
him at all. 
Maybe there I was just exactly 

656
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,720
Googling who is this guy and 
then like I went down a fucking 

657
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,120
rabbit hole on this man. 
I drunk like 3 tonnes a monster 

658
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:38,120
and became 1/4. 
You know, so as this develops, 

659
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,440
what will happens? 
Guntrove gets up and use the 

660
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,200
table. 
He apologises to catch you. 

661
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,200
Like I'll just be a minute ago. 
I've got to talk to business. 

662
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,440
She looks bored as fuck anyway. 
He has, She really does. 

663
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,040
Something she's stunning. 
She looks amazing, but she looks

664
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,280
bored as fuck, right? 
So she kind of like does this 

665
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,120
sort of like, uh huh, and pouts 
and like kind of looks around 

666
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,600
and like swigs takes a big swig 
from her drink, which has 

667
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,560
arrived and it's. 
Well, what is she drinking? 

668
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,840
What is she drinking? 
It's got like, it's in a, it's 

669
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,240
in a martini glass. 
Yeah. 

670
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,200
It's a cocktail of some kind, 
right? 

671
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,600
Yeah, Yeah. 
It seems like hard liquor is in 

672
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,760
there. 
Yeah. 

673
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,280
Like but but she drinks it in 
such a casual manner. 

674
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,240
Yeah. 
Like I like it's implied that 

675
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,640
she's got like a well advanced 
alcohol problem. 

676
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,920
Yeah, I mean, like, it's so say 
get up. 

677
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,880
Well, she's Russian as a source,
assume she was drinking vodka 

678
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,480
before she was drinking water, 
that kind of thing. 

679
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,240
It's like I grew up on mother's 
milk and vodka, you know? 

680
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,040
Stoli straight up. 
Stoli straight up. 

681
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,520
Yeah. 
OK, Gal. 

682
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,720
Yeah. 
Like, and yeah, she's she's it 

683
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,200
is really like, kind of 
believable because some, some 

684
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,480
actors don't look good 
pretending to drink alcohol. 

685
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,480
Tom Cruise. 
Oh yeah. 

686
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,960
You you put a fucking tight in 
Tom Cruise's hand and and it's 

687
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,840
like this. 
Katya looks in in in some like a

688
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,240
good hang. 
She looks like should be fun to 

689
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,440
hang out with on a night out, 
you know? 

690
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,560
Well, I think it would go like. 
Either way, it looks like it 

691
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,320
would start fun and then, you 
know, she'd I think she'd 

692
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,000
probably like hit the mascara 
thinner a bit a bit too hard. 

693
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,920
Yeah, and probably then and then
like and then like straight up 

694
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,480
have sex with your wife, so. 
This song This song is. 

695
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:21,320
All about me, It's all about me.
She fucking smokes a cigarette 

696
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,040
backwards then destroys your 
marriage by taking your wife to 

697
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,400
whatever it'd be. 
Fucking girl boss. 

698
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,920
I love her, that she's amazing. 
Scrubs, scrubs like I won't get 

699
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:37,360
no love from me he. 
Scrubs me up. 

700
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:43,720
Oh yeah, so the band strikes up 
her another song and it's a 

701
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:44,840
tango. 
Yeah, it's a tango of. 

702
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,320
Music. 
Yeah, like it's this. 

703
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,040
Isn't this isn't this isn't the 
tango scene, but it's like the 

704
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,680
first tango scene. 
It is a film that has so many 

705
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,240
kind of moments. 
It's a tango scene, but it's not

706
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,440
the tango scene. 
It's a scene where they play a 

707
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,320
chess, but it's not the. 
Chess the scene. 

708
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:00,800
Yeah, yeah. 
It's not that one. 

709
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,080
No, it's like. 
It's a scene at the docks, but 

710
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,280
it's not the scene at the docks.
It's honestly. 

711
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:11,679
It feels like rewrites, but I 
can't quite fully agree with 

712
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:14,440
myself for that. 
I feel like I didn't, right. 

713
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,920
Whenever you whenever you talk 
to people like night in the 70s 

714
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,760
cinema, people always go like 
the 70s were a great like New 

715
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,320
Hollywood. 
You know, that's what they call 

716
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,960
it, New Hollywood because it's 
like the people like Coppola 

717
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,520
coming in, Spielberg coming in, 
you know, like the likes of that

718
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:31,199
George Lucas coming in, like 
Anthony J Pakula, you know, like

719
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,080
all these great names, they're 
always great moves, like like 

720
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,159
Clete, you know. 
Yeah, great movie watched it 

721
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:39,320
last night and it's like all 
these brave films are like not 

722
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,120
afraid to look at like the grimy
side of life or to be like slow 

723
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,480
and developed like these complex
stories will be like character 

724
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,679
pieces in the frame of a of a of
a different genre movie. 

725
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,080
What do you think? 
Like New Hollywood, you think of

726
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,440
that. 
So you don't think of like 

727
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,239
executive meddling. 
But I think because this movie 

728
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,880
was like a Co produced in Italy,
it was going to be distributed 

729
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,560
in America. 
But like has a very like at a 

730
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,360
height of the Cold War, the Cold
War be cold. 

731
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,160
And you know, I think there's a 
lot of executive meddling and 

732
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,720
people were like, not sure how 
they're going to sell it. 

733
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,000
And I think, yeah, there was 
probably a lot of rewrites 

734
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,360
brought in. 
That's probably part of the 

735
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,080
reason why like iceberg Jew is 
just like appears without any 

736
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,920
set up. 
And you get like you get you get

737
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,040
this tango scene, you get the 
violin, the violin scene, which 

738
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,200
is kind of a tango scene in the 
sense that he's playing like the

739
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,240
same kind of music. 
And then literally right after 

740
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:27,440
that you get another tango 
scene. 

741
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,480
So what the fuck is going on, 
man? 

742
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,800
Anyway. 
The town going, apparently. 

743
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,480
They they run out of ways to 
like go like right, so spoilers 

744
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,320
for like like 20 minutes, but 
like to get like catcher and 

745
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,800
Sophia to have chemistry. 
They're like right, just have 

746
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,320
them dance again. 
Just make them do another dance,

747
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,760
make them listen to some more 
music, just more dancing just 

748
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,960
like what the fuck guys? 
Why do they why can't they go 

749
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,600
curling? 
Why can't they like go for a 

750
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,800
walk? 
Why can't they go? 

751
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,600
We could have had a coffee. 
We. 

752
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,520
Exactly, they could have done 
literally anything. 

753
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,240
It's Italy. 
It's not like there's nothing to

754
00:35:57,240 --> 00:35:59,120
do there. 
They could have they could have 

755
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,160
gone in a museum, got gone the 
day trip of Venice, got on a 

756
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:08,080
gondola, joined the carabinieri,
bought a had a had a pizza 

757
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,840
driven. 
They could have driven around 

758
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,840
homoerotically like those two 
cops and that it's your Tashi 

759
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,600
film, Live like a man, died like
a cop, I think it's called. 

760
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,320
But it's just these two good 
looking dudes, including the 

761
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,840
bargain basement, Robert 
Redford, just driving around 

762
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,800
Rome, embracing each other, run 
like a little motorbike, 

763
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:32,360
violently executing criminals, 
running trains on witnesses and 

764
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,040
sleeping in the same bed in a 
very heterosexual way. 

765
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,480
And they could have done that. 
They could have done that man. 

766
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,400
And and that was made at a 
similar time too. 

767
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,040
So they could have just borrowed
the motorbike of those two 

768
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,280
roommates and roommated around 
Naples. 

769
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,880
Yeah, yeah. 
But they didn't. 

770
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,040
That's what they should have 
done. 

771
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,760
In fact, that's what their 
character should have done. 

772
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,960
Like instead of the rest of the 
film. 

773
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,200
I mean the world. 
Fucking come on. 

774
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,800
That's Katya coded, right? 
That's it. 

775
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,840
Get motorbike. 
We could drive now, Yeah. 

776
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,200
Yeah, yeah, I was watching. 
So I guess I was watching. 

777
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,720
I was clued last night yeah, and
Jane Fondas character and that 

778
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:11,720
pre Daniels give me big capture 
energy, like really similar 

779
00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:13,480
characters. 
Like she's a she's like a high 

780
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,160
class prostitute who does it 
because she's an aspiring 

781
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,320
actress and model. 
And it's almost like she's 

782
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,440
addicted. 
Like she can't quit. 

783
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,440
Like she stopped hooking like 
full time and just takes on 

784
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,600
really like, but whenever she's 
like feels the need to perform 

785
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,360
and wants to disappear from 
herself, she like calls up and 

786
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,120
gets a gets a client and then 
she like acts basically for the 

787
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,000
client. 
And she's like, she's just she's

788
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,560
doing therapy in the movie and 
she like talks to a therapist 

789
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,040
about how like for that one 
hour, I'm the best actress in 

790
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,440
Hollywood. 
And that's kind of like her 

791
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,120
whole deal. 
I feel like catch is really the 

792
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,880
same. 
Like catch is like not she's a 

793
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,320
constantly play acting as 
somebody else. 

794
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,880
She's not being her own true 
self. 

795
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,160
I mean, but you only see her 
true self for like sadly about 

796
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,320
30 seconds at the end of the war
and obviously the couple of 

797
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,320
scenes that she has was for 
fear, even though it's a bit 

798
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,520
coded. 
I mean, it's kind of like a 

799
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,640
comment really on the kind of 
trope like like the mob wife, 

800
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,040
isn't it? 
Because like you're a mob wife, 

801
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,600
you in general and for 
storytelling films and stuff 

802
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,360
goes, you don't have much going 
other than you being like the 

803
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,200
wife of a gangster, right. 
It's it's, you know, I mean, I, 

804
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,080
I guess it kind of gets hit by 
its head with, with the Linda 

805
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,360
Laplan novel and the and later 
film Widows, which is about mob 

806
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,360
widows doing, doing mob things. 
But in general a mob White's 

807
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,400
character isn't fleshed out and 
stuff. 

808
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,440
So, yeah, kind of very much like
that. 

809
00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:29,840
Yeah, it's weird, isn't it? 
Because this has obviously come 

810
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,920
out after The Godfather. 
Yeah. 

811
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:35,480
Like the the two that mob could 
women that you think of from 

812
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,480
that film are Talia Shire from 
Rocky. 

813
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,560
And, and sorry, this this film 
shares a producer with Rocky, by

814
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,080
the way, fucking what's his 
name? 

815
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,400
Irvin Winkler. 
Yeah. 

816
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,200
Nice. 
Sorry, that was a bit of trivia,

817
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,120
but Diane Keaton, right? 
Sorry, sorry, stupid. 

818
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:56,240
I bet Irvin Winkler got a lot of
investment and provided little 

819
00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:58,920
kind of input on the film. 
I think he was, he was. 

820
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,280
He was a money trained for this 
film. 

821
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,120
Yeah, I I love, I actually 
generally really love the first 

822
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,880
Rocky film. 
I mean as fuck, I love them all.

823
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,320
I love them all. 
But the first place is like a 

824
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,360
safeguard. 
Brilliant film. 

825
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,480
Yeah, so, right, So God fucking 
up. 

826
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,560
We're still in the casino 
nightclub scene, right? 

827
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,920
So what's happened is Gontrop's 
gone over to Mario's table, 

828
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,760
right? 
This is their first time meeting

829
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,920
or Meanwhile, the last thing we 
see of catchers is she gets like

830
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,600
bored, she gets up and she walks
her from the table. 

831
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,440
We don't know where she's 
walking towards, but I think 

832
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,680
there's people dancing on a 
dance floor. 

833
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,320
So she's going towards the dance
floor, right? 

834
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,480
But over at Mario's table, it's 
Mario's. 

835
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,360
It's relaxed fingers resting on 
a chess piece from 1/2 finished 

836
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,760
game on the table. 
First of many chess games we're 

837
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,720
going to see and. 
I was just like, straight up 

838
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:41,080
fucking just like fucking 
casually playing chess at the 

839
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,040
nightclub, by the way. 
In the nightclub, it's. 

840
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,360
It's like, and that's like 
Kramer level behaviour. 

841
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,800
That's ridiculous. 
It's like, it's like just as we 

842
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,360
understand you what Kramer was. 
Because I think I might make 

843
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,760
more references to it later 
mate. 

844
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,760
Do you want to give us a bit 
about Kramer? 

845
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,320
Yeah, I can't remember. 
I don't know who made it, but 

846
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,440
there was about 15 years ago, 
there was a Twitter account 

847
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,000
calls Kramer. 
And what it was is it was like a

848
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:13,280
fake 1970s style. 
A crime detective show that was 

849
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,680
tweeted out in bits and it 
starred, and it was all full of,

850
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,160
like, hilarious misspellings. 
Crimer is the hero, and he's a 

851
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:23,200
criminal, a criminal mastermind.
But he doesn't work for the 

852
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,360
mastermind. 
He's just a criminal. 

853
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,120
He's like a chaotic, like a true
what? 

854
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,520
What would you say? 
Chaotic Neutral. 

855
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,600
Neutral, Yeah. 
Definitely, whereas whereas or 

856
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,320
as brainiest as more chaotic 
evil, right? 

857
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,480
Exactly. 
Brainy brainiest is the real bad

858
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,480
guy. 
He was like the, the, the, the 

859
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,440
real, the real kind of like, 
yeah, exactly as you say, like 

860
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:45,560
kind of either either like true,
true evil or lawful evil or or 

861
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,680
curse evil. 
And then you've got on the other

862
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,920
side of the police side, you've 
got detective. 

863
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,320
He was the the policeman who's 
trying to take down Crimea. 

864
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:04,040
He has he has a dog called 
Puppet and puppet puppet and and

865
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,760
the whole the whole show was I 
was just like tweets, tweets up 

866
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,040
where Lucy stood together to 
form some kind of plot about 

867
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,080
about that. 
Fucking spelled as well. 

868
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,440
And then occasionally they would
put out like like TV Guide style

869
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,920
pages saying like what what 
tonight's episode was about kind

870
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:20,920
of thing. 
And there was a very 

871
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,200
occasionally bits of like title 
card art, but there was never 

872
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,880
any like people drawn. 
But I loved it. 

873
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,120
We got we were obsessed with it 
in 2012. 

874
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,080
So fucking good it was all we 
talked about by the Saudi of 

875
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,080
made by for fucking 
insufferable. 

876
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,560
Yeah. 
We were really fucking fucking 

877
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,160
bad. 
I'm just pulling up some some 

878
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,000
fucking crime stuff now on, on 
Twitter. 

879
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,840
I'm I'm I'm I'm kind of cut to 
1, like the bump of like the 

880
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,680
kind of brainiest arc that like 
just kind of took it away from 

881
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,040
it's like to the streets gritty 
cop drama. 

882
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,920
Yeah, because it started off as 
like a gritty cop drama to to 

883
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,240
dangerous so. 
Right, so Crimea, the amount of 

884
00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:05,640
muni input into this place, 
brackets puts on sunglasses and 

885
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:12,640
no red carpet bracket tuts. 
Unlucky then welcome Matt the 

886
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:18,880
following tweet, Detective wife.
I'm get it you got to go, but be

887
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:24,920
car fool. 
You're a daddy now the tetkaif I

888
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,520
am promise brackets open doors 
bracket or who? 

889
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,960
I'm on call me doors full of flu
hours. 

890
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,280
Sadia is brilliant. 
I. 

891
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,840
Am going to go on. 
I was going to say it's like 

892
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,240
basically all the tropes from 
like any any 70s cop drama, but 

893
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:43,760
like with a bit a bit extra 
silly. 

894
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,720
So like that vibe there is very 
much like the the the 

895
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,120
untouchables, Elliott Ness and 
his wife and. 

896
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,280
Come on Elliott, put another 
fucking baby in me. 

897
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,240
Please man, I'm a God damn tried
wife. 

898
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:01,120
I need to be barefoot and 
fucking pregnant all times. 

899
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,040
Elliott, you can load that 
Thompson. 

900
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,560
Good. 
Why can't you load me? 

901
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,880
Wow. 
Yeah, so I'll, I'll get back to 

902
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,680
the movie. 
So, so, so Gontro finally, after

903
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,840
25 minutes, arrives at Mario's 
table. 

904
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,840
Yes, officer, there. 
It's. 

905
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,080
Arresting now. 
Come on, I'm just saying, man. 

906
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,280
So Mario's like welcome to 
Naples. 

907
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,720
And then Gontrol sits and goes 
like nice city. 

908
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,240
Mario smiles. 
Yes, we're very proud of it. 

909
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,760
A waitress comes and puts some 
like wine stuff on the table. 

910
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,600
Mario like paws like a massive 
like a ridiculously huge glass 

911
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,800
of like red wine for them both 
takes ages and then goes Mario, 

912
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,640
Mario. 
Mario's like Naples is delicate,

913
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,320
a beautiful machine. 
Every piece has its place and 

914
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,200
drinks And then Gunter of like 
big long paws and goes machines 

915
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,480
break ha ha ha. 
Which which? 

916
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,440
Which is actually a bar. 
It is. 

917
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,120
It is a big cry about, but it's 
actually a bar as well. 

918
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,280
Machines break. 2 words Perfect.
No, no. 

919
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:07,440
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
This is it. 

920
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,480
So we talked in like about two 
words stints for the whole 

921
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,000
movie. 
Yeah, it's Mario again, 

922
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,120
performance like sometimes, but 
usually only when someone new 

923
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,880
arrives and starts pulling 
levers they do not understand. 

924
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,240
And then then we got like a 
Dolly around the table. 

925
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:23,080
So it's like each guy's in in 
profile and then right in the 

926
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,480
middle of the frame for fucking 
no reason is the is the like the

927
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,920
Chiquita banana lady dancing? 
Oh, great. 

928
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,360
And she's and she's like 
spinning. 

929
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,240
It's spinning, it's spinning. 
And then, like, the jazz music's

930
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:36,720
playing and someone goes like as
she's spinning. 

931
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,960
The corner back on she's. 
A little cut to edit to Mario's 

932
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,440
face again. 
He's like, tell me Gunter of do 

933
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,120
you enjoy Naples? 
And Gunter was like, I just 

934
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,880
arrived and he's like of. 
Of course, but life does not 

935
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,760
make sense. 
Did you enjoy Naples? 

936
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:56,760
I just arrived. 
Yeah, And then he's like, yes, 

937
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,320
of course you must understand 
something. 

938
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,960
This city belongs to 
Neapolitans. 

939
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,880
We speak the language, we know 
the tides, we know when the 

940
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,600
storms are coming and then gone.
To our shrugs goes. 

941
00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:12,800
Storms come anyway, ha. 
Ha ha, ha. 

942
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,920
And I said, yeah, he's he's the 
guy. 

943
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,120
The guy, right? 
He talks like Steven Seagal 

944
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:22,520
movie titles, these like 2-2 or 
three word sentences at times. 

945
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,680
Hard to kill a good man. 
Pink don't hurt. 

946
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:32,080
It's like, yeah, he's like, he's
like Patrick Swayze in the start

947
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,680
of Roadhouse. 
Just like pink don't hurt like. 

948
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,200
Pink don't hurt. 
Yeah. 

949
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,400
So then the camera kind of does 
like a game, steady, calm. 

950
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,640
It's like handheld shaky Cam, 
but kind of like walks away from

951
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,160
them and kind of does like a big
like what would become like the 

952
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,720
Scorsese wanna like all the way 
through like the restaurant bit 

953
00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:55,040
of the where the tables are in 
the club and then onto the dance

954
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,280
floor. 
Scorsese, it takes ages. 

955
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,560
It's like not good here. 
It's not like the sort of good 

956
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:00,560
fillets where it's like 
brilliant. 

957
00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:03,240
It's just a bit like, why has he
done that on the middle of a 

958
00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:06,120
scene anyway? 
Does this and then eventually 

959
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,880
like into frame steps. 
I do like this catcher steps 

960
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,560
into frame and it's like, ah, 
we're following catcher rugby 

961
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,400
and catcher stands in the dance 
floor and they're like couples 

962
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,280
dancing around her, but she's 
got nobody. 

963
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:23,320
And then she sees Sofia Loren 
dancing with like an ancient, 

964
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,320
ancient man. 
An ancient man, but. 

965
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:29,800
Take about to get back in time 
with me. 

966
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,320
It'll be humans never existed, 
no technology. 

967
00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:36,120
I hope that Lady is doing well. 
Yeah, so do I. 

968
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,840
And then like Sophia is dancing 
this guy, he. 

969
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,920
Looks super fucking into it by 
the way. 

970
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:46,000
He looks super he's like I am 
3000 years old. 

971
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,280
This is my I have lived 3 
millennia to put my hands on 

972
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,840
Sofia Lorenz bare shoulders. 
That's why I will die. 

973
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,840
Basically, he probably went 
home, but he gooned himself to 

974
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,760
death that night. 
Yeah, there's a Clute mentioned.

975
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:03,440
There's a, there's a, there's a 
guy in Clute who's like he's 

976
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,520
like one of the regular 
customers for Jane Fonda. 

977
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,600
And he's like, he's like in his 
late 70s and he's like, and 

978
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,520
there's a whole scene where like
Donald Sutherland's like stood 

979
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,360
in the shadows, like, like 
watching her and recording her 

980
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,040
as she has this meeting with 
this John to like build up, like

981
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,840
compromise on her so that you 
will help her, that she will 

982
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,040
help him even. 
And the whole thing is that 

983
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,400
she's telling a story that 
didn't happen, but how she's 

984
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,880
just come back from an 
incredible party from a from a 

985
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,320
trip to Canada with, with a 
theatre troupe because she's, 

986
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,800
she's like her, her kind of 
stories that she's this great 

987
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,000
actress kind of thing. 
And this old dude is just there 

988
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,800
like watching it. 
And she strips and the whole 

989
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,880
dude's watching and like, Oh my 
God, amazing. 

990
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,440
He like pulls like wine for her 
and stuff. 

991
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,040
And then like, and then and 
then, and then it cuts to like 

992
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,840
Jane Fonda kicking off at Donald
Sutherland because she found out

993
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,680
he's been recording it. 
He's like this. 

994
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,920
And it's like this old bad. 
It's like in his 70s and like 

995
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,160
his wife died and like I see him
like once a month. 

996
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,360
He pays me $200. 
He never links a finger on me 

997
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,240
and I'm all he's got. 
Wow. 

998
00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:00,760
Anyway, this old fuck is who's 
dancing with to feel around is 

999
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,000
very similar. 
Yeah. 

1000
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,560
Yeah, right. 
So wild. 

1001
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,720
If you could feel anything below
the belt it'd be fucking sickle.

1002
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:10,400
But. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1003
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,200
So the whole point of the scene 
is that for Sofia and Catcher to

1004
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,000
make eye contact, which they do 
for a second, and then classic, 

1005
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,600
classic, like chase me, chase me
Sofia kind of like looks at her,

1006
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:25,080
doesn't really give an 
expression, but you can see this

1007
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,080
like some underneath. 
Then she just turns her 

1008
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,680
attention away again and 
continues dunting with the old 

1009
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:29,880
guy. 
And then the dance ends and then

1010
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,960
she walks away. 
Dancing with the fucking Crypt 

1011
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,200
keeper after like eye bag and 
cut. 

1012
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,040
Yeah. 
And it's like, yeah, well, we 

1013
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,760
are. 
We are picking up what this film

1014
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,360
is putting down. 
Yeah, And before we get to enjoy

1015
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,360
any more of that, even come back
to the table with Mario and 

1016
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,920
Guntrov. 
Mario's like your ambitious 

1017
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,160
Guntrov Gutrose. 
Like, yes, ambition is 

1018
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,920
admirable, but Naples is not a 
lot of you climb is he goes. 

1019
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,480
It is a throne. 
And this is like the first 

1020
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,080
opportunity to like freak out. 
This is like proper like Vincent

1021
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,120
Hannah level stuff. 
But like obviously he's still 

1022
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,560
young. 
But like Attica, Attica, it's 

1023
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,840
like you're around water. 
He's like he's like Naples is 

1024
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,080
not a lot of you climb. 
It's a throne and there's 

1025
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,240
already a king sitting on it. 
And then and then Gonzo is like.

1026
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,360
He's really over egging the 
performance as well in like the 

1027
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,320
the nightclub and you can tell 
like the extras were told don't,

1028
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,480
don't react and don't bounce at 
him, but a couple of them do. 

1029
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,120
That was like straight up 
fucking look over him. 

1030
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:25,120
And one of them, it looks like 
the film's edited at this point,

1031
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,120
because I think one of those 
extras look like straight down 

1032
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,640
the barrel and it didn't realise
until they were doing like kind 

1033
00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:31,760
of like recuts and stuff. 
There's at least, there's at 

1034
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,720
least one more time, I think 
later on where somebody spikes 

1035
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:36,120
the lens and looks the way into 
it. 

1036
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,080
Yeah, big time. 
So that happens. 

1037
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,480
He does that. 
He spills his drink a little bit

1038
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,400
and then Contra just like cold 
as fuck as like kings fall. 

1039
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,080
Again, it's just talking two 
word line as well, two or two or

1040
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,320
three words. 
Kings 4. 

1041
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,920
It's like fucking half the 
things he says sound like strap 

1042
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,880
lines for film. 
Film like posters and trailers. 

1043
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,360
Machines break kings. 
Four, Yeah, yeah, yeah, soon as 

1044
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,240
that and then and then he's 
like, yes, yes, they do. 

1045
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:04,200
But when kings fall, Gunter of 
when kings fall, they take the 

1046
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:10,240
whole king do with them and then
yeah, yeah, yeah, and then like 

1047
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,840
even and then this is like the 
she keep another woman. 

1048
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,760
Stop spinning. 
Yeah. 

1049
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,400
And it's like, what's going on? 
Everyone's like, what the fuck? 

1050
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,360
Like I think the guy sit next to
the like Mario, like stand up, 

1051
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,040
like shit's gotta kick off. 
And then he does that kind of 

1052
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,440
like everyone sits back down 
again. 

1053
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,440
And he goes, So I ask you 
politely, Gunter off, wouldn't 

1054
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,200
you perhaps be happier somewhere
else? 

1055
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,640
And then Gunter off just goes 
no, I like nipples. 

1056
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,400
And then he walks away. 
It's like what the? 

1057
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:41,840
Fuck is the scene it's. 
Meant man, it's like hashtag our

1058
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:46,040
guy like, no, I like it here. 
I've just come all the way here.

1059
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,880
I'm, I'm, I'm going to go away 
now. 

1060
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,200
Come. 
On and then yeah, exactly that 

1061
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:51,880
happens. 
And then the last thing to end 

1062
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,120
the scene is there's like a 
booth behind like the table that

1063
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:56,840
Mario and that are all that 
which we don't even notice 

1064
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,840
because it's just like like 
maroon velvet. 

1065
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,240
It's all lit red anyway. 
You can barely see it. 

1066
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,960
Yeah. 
And then and but then, like 

1067
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,000
around the side of it just steps
out. 

1068
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,920
Well, getting up, shuffling out.
Is Harvey Cattell, Andre. 

1069
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,960
Yeah, that's when we see him. 
And then just before, and then 

1070
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,480
just before, like he looks at 
Mario. 

1071
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,560
Mario looks at him. 
And then it looks like they're 

1072
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,040
about to say something. 
And then it cuts and they're 

1073
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:17,400
like, oh, what the fuck was 
that? 

1074
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,680
Yeah. 
So that's that fucked up, man. 

1075
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,640
That was that's so mental. 
How far are we through now? 

1076
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,920
We're barely into it. 
We're barely into the film. 

1077
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,400
Like the fucking nightclub 
scenes early in the film, right?

1078
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,080
And like. 
Why is he? 

1079
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,720
We've just met him and this 
guy's freaked the fuck out 

1080
00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:31,720
straight away. 
We barely know him. 

1081
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,720
This is like the second time 
we've seen Mario and he's done 

1082
00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:37,440
like a full freak out. 
So weird. 

1083
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:44,000
Italians be crazy, am I right? 
Yeah, I think we get like a bit 

1084
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,760
of a montage now of like the 
crime organisation being set up 

1085
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,760
from like gun troves. 
And part of what's happening 

1086
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,120
here is also getting like 
voiceover from Harvey Hotel 

1087
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,720
talking about how like fuck they
was he say some bullshit about 

1088
00:51:55,720 --> 00:51:57,760
like how they're not eating 
pastor at the docks anymore, 

1089
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:58,760
they're eating borscht or 
something. 

1090
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,120
Something really stupid like 
that. 

1091
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:02,960
Yeah. 
It's like it's, it's, it's well.

1092
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:05,560
They're drinking. 
The sip involves girls stupid 

1093
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:06,520
like that. 
It's like some food. 

1094
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,400
Fashion drinking vodka and 
spiced tea or something yeah 

1095
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,840
double check it, but it's like. 
Russian caravan Fucking yeah, 

1096
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,440
whatever. 
Fucking Russian caravan ass tea 

1097
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,160
drinking and. 
Then we get the pig farm scene 

1098
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,240
and it's gone through himself as
the pig farm, and then they 

1099
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:28,320
explain how whenever they have 
to kill people, they go out into

1100
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,960
like the countryside and it's an
old pig farm there. 

1101
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,160
It's about fucking Snatch. 
Actually. 

1102
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,880
I think Snatch nicked this. 
I think nicked this big time. 

1103
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,480
Yeah, big time, Dennis Farina. 
Millennium nicked it as well. 

1104
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,640
The bit with the judge and he's 
got the pigs. 

1105
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:42,640
Right. 
Yeah, There you go. 

1106
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,400
So it's exactly that. 
So right. 

1107
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,560
That's later on the point then. 
Basically they take the bodies 

1108
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,880
to a pig farm. 
The pigs eat the bodies, and the

1109
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:53,840
farmer is this old big fat guy, 
Yeah, called Yevgeny, who's, you

1110
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,920
know, I think they're meant to 
be like, he's one of the pigs 

1111
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,400
because he's got like little 
small glasses and the lies. 

1112
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,200
And it's so weird. 
It's like it's in Italy, but the

1113
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,720
farmers are Russian, right? 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1114
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,320
Like, I mean, like, I mean like,
they're not going back to Russia

1115
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,480
to utilise a Russian pig farm. 
It's clearly in Italy, the way 

1116
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,920
it's shot, the fucking like 
montage of like driving past 

1117
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,520
olive Groves and shit on the way
there. 

1118
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:19,240
Like it's still Italy and it's 
like fucking what it's like. 

1119
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,760
The dust of the mezzo Giorno, 
all that stuff. 

1120
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,160
Yeah, fucking fucked up. 
So yeah, again, he's like, 

1121
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:26,800
laughing. 
And he says, oh, and this is a 

1122
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:27,920
bit weird. 
It's in Russian language as 

1123
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:28,880
well. 
Yeah. 

1124
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,720
So he says in Russian to control
he's speaking English about 

1125
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,800
maybe one of these days I'll be 
feeding new to these pigs as a 

1126
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,440
joke. 
Yeah. 

1127
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,000
And it's in it's in subtitles. 
Yeah. 

1128
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,080
Yeah. 
And then like, and then gun 

1129
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,760
Trump doesn't laugh because he 
doesn't laugh at anything. 

1130
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,080
And he just gets just gets back 
into his car and is driven away.

1131
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,000
He. 
Should have given like one of us

1132
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,120
like looking two line responses 
like maybe so. 

1133
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,160
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
So yeah, probably yeah, baby. 

1134
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,240
So yeah. 
Pigsy, everyone. 

1135
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,280
Dies. 
Things are happening now. 

1136
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,320
I'm going to just do a quick 
position. 

1137
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,560
Guntarov and Andrea have a 
meeting. 

1138
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,440
Not not a meeting, but they meet
up in a, in a, in a market. 

1139
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,840
So it's like, it's like a mirror
image of when there were kids in

1140
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,680
the market stealing. 
Now they're grown-ups in the 

1141
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,840
market, but they're like buying 
apples and shit. 

1142
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,760
We have God, yeah, we haven't 
ever seen, but this is our first

1143
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,960
proper chess match between a 
Guntarov and Mario. 

1144
00:54:25,240 --> 00:54:29,000
So they're like in a, it's like 
a club, like a gentlemen's club.

1145
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,960
So I guess they're both members 
of the same fucking club. 

1146
00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:35,080
Who the fuck is playing all this
chess and nightclubs? 

1147
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,880
This shit's bizarrely Andrew 
Tate coded at this point. 

1148
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,280
Yeah, Yeah. 
So this is like a daytime meets,

1149
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,080
but is the nightclub where I 
think, yeah, so there. 

1150
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,480
So it's like, you know, it's 
like the classic like go to the 

1151
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,720
nightclub during the day when no
one's there and it's like just 

1152
00:54:47,720 --> 00:54:49,040
the bad guys talking to you, 
that kind of thing. 

1153
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,600
So it's like it's empty. 
But them two are there like 

1154
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,280
having like a little Chianti and
like playing a game of chess. 

1155
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,120
And they have the exact same 
fucking conversation again about

1156
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,320
how like, you know, would you be
happy somewhere else? 

1157
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,080
No, I like Naples. 
Do you like Moscow? 

1158
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,520
No, I like Naples. 
Like your wife catches really 

1159
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,000
beautiful. 
Thanks. 

1160
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,480
Like like he. 
Literally says thanks. 

1161
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:15,080
So he says thanks or thank you. 
And it's like, I mean, we, we, 

1162
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,600
we all have you all have 
significant others at this 

1163
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,240
point. 
If, if, if I don't want to meet 

1164
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:21,520
Rory or white street are 
beautiful. 

1165
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,560
I would say more fucking thanks.
You know what? 

1166
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,480
I'm saying, well, he says, he 
says thanks and then he and then

1167
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,960
he goes beauty is who erases and
it's like, what the fuck does 

1168
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,400
that mean? 
Yeah, exactly. 

1169
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,200
It's like he, he, he, he, he, he
says thanks, but then he just 

1170
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,680
kind of dunks on her a bit. 
I mean Jesus. 

1171
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,480
It's clear that they're not 
happy, right? 

1172
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,760
And they have problems. 
And whilst he's not comfortable 

1173
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:45,600
to, I don't know why he opens up
about this to to Mario like it's

1174
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,800
just fucked up. 
It's one of the many homoerotic 

1175
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,240
relationships developing for the
film. 

1176
00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:52,480
Well, yeah, I mean, he's just, 
he's, he's like feeling things 

1177
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,000
out, isn't he? 
Like he's feeling things out. 

1178
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,840
He's like, what if? 
What if I actually didn't find 

1179
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,080
my hot wife attractive? 
What if then what? 

1180
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,520
What if you know? 
Is there a is? 

1181
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,280
Is there a Mr? 
Cool. 

1182
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,920
So we have that catcher, right. 
OK, so then the final thing that

1183
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,840
I think ends this bit is Catcher
finally meets Sofia. 

1184
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,480
But it's a bit so. 
So Catcher is going to like, 

1185
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,200
she's like in a cafe and it's at
night time. 

1186
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,640
Yeah, Yeah. 
And it looks really as she walks

1187
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,600
into a cafe like normal, there's
like normal ordinary people 

1188
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,480
there. 
She walks like through to the 

1189
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,280
back and goes into like a 
backroom. 

1190
00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:27,160
And it turns out there's like 
like a meeting going on. 

1191
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,760
And I think it's like, I think 
it's like, I think it's the 

1192
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,560
Russian population in Naples are
having some kind of like 

1193
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,040
political activist PC that is 
poorly describes. 

1194
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,360
Sophia is like mysterious, 
unknowable. 

1195
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,520
It seems a little bit aloof, but
she does like she's clearly 

1196
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,680
returning whatever cat she's 
picking up, whatever cat she's 

1197
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,720
putting down kind of thing. 
The meeting ends. 

1198
00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:53,680
So right, we've got Catcher. 
She's been to that meeting. 

1199
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,440
She goes to the catfish. 
She's met the political 

1200
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,960
activist, she's met Sofia, who's
a charismatic, an independent 

1201
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,200
woman who's been organising 
protests against corruption in 

1202
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:01,480
the city. 
That's what it says in the 

1203
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,440
synopsis. 
I didn't catch that. 

1204
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,520
No, she's she's, she's 
investigating all the government

1205
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,720
and political and financial 
corruption. 

1206
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,800
Yeah, Yeah, exactly. 
Yeah, all this national and 

1207
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,520
international corruption she 
knows is going on and she says 

1208
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,840
Sofia challenges can't. 
Yeah, men like your husband 

1209
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,440
think power makes them safe. 
And then Catcher studies of her 

1210
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,480
moment and she goes power makes 
men careless. 

1211
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,240
And that is like our hints that 
an emotional bond has been 

1212
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:31,440
formed between Katya and Sofia. 
Yeah, have to say now, Katya and

1213
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,560
Sofia walked. 
So those two lesbian 

1214
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,160
revolutionaries and and OR could
run. 

1215
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,720
Yes, that's such a good pull. 
Yeah, totally. 

1216
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:39,720
Oh my God. 
Yeah yeah. 

1217
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,600
Oh, bless them. 
Some interpretations. 

1218
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,600
This is from from the Wikipedia.
Consider catcher's relationship 

1219
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,000
with Sofia is central to the 
film. 

1220
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,520
She may be the protagonist. 
Wins you 2 queer readings. 

1221
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:53,120
Sofia, A1 legged Jewish refugee.
I didn't catch on to her having 

1222
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:54,320
one leg during the dancing 
season. 

1223
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,800
Still not at all I I think 
that's something that might 

1224
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,320
exist only in the script. 
Not a single thing about. 

1225
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,680
I suggest she was one legged. 
A1 Legged a Jewish refugee 

1226
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,800
hiding from fascists that 
becomes a catcher's confidante 

1227
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,480
and lover. 
Fans highlight again. 

1228
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,760
When is this film set? 
Yeah, what the fuck Ish ish 

1229
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:14,480
hiding? 
From. 

1230
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:19,560
Current day Italian fascists 
because what it's like this, 

1231
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:24,920
This was written by it just 
seems like it was lost words. 

1232
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:30,440
It feels like it was written by 
someone who had only the vaguest

1233
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,560
idea of European politics in 
1973 or whatever. 

1234
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:39,080
It's like she's spin the wheel 
and one leg spin the wheel. 

1235
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,720
Jewish woman who was hiding from
spin, spin, spin, spin, spin and

1236
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,800
spin. 
And it clicks on from like 

1237
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:54,240
communists, libertarians, trade 
unionists, fascists, hiding from

1238
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:58,240
fascists. 
It's like, OK, cool, wild. 

1239
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,920
It's obviously insane, so 
Catcher confesses that she 

1240
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,120
envies Sofia's fearlessness and 
imagines flowers growing through

1241
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:05,080
her bones. 
Bars. 

1242
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,240
That's an. 
Absolute fucking bar actually. 

1243
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,080
It's like what's online saying 
if you die flowers will grow 

1244
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:10,960
through your bones. 
It's. 

1245
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,520
Like, yeah. 
It's it's an absolute fucking. 

1246
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:20,480
It's also disturbingly redolent 
of the IRL put put sunflower 

1247
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,720
seeds in your pockets lying from
that old lady. 

1248
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,560
Ture of the full skilled vision 
of your print, which is fucking 

1249
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,960
also bars from that old lady by 
the way. 

1250
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,720
The homoerotic subtext of their 
relationship has become a major 

1251
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,480
focus of Phantom Analysis, but 
not the only one. 

1252
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,840
The ACT ends with a pants hit, 
so again, very little set up to 

1253
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:39,040
this. 
I love some of these songs for 

1254
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,880
this stuff. 
Just happens they attempt to 

1255
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,560
hit. 
I think it's Mario's men attempt

1256
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,520
to hit on Gunter of when he's at
the train station under the 

1257
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,440
transition clock and on the 
platform. 

1258
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,960
And Mario's men, it's our first 
time we see, I speak Joe, but 

1259
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:53,160
he's not the focus of the 
camera. 

1260
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,040
Yeah. 
He's just like one of the guys 

1261
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,000
that's there still has the ice 
pick. 

1262
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,720
He's a sort of gun. 
And they ambush Gunter of the 

1263
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,280
Naples Central Air Station. 
A chaotic shootout takes place 

1264
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,560
that some people have since 
referred to as maybe the 

1265
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,840
inspiration for the Untouchables
train station shootout. 

1266
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:10,400
But it's not. 
It's not as good as that. 

1267
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,040
It's just like literally 
opposite sides of a platform of 

1268
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,800
the trains line between them and
it's going. 

1269
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:16,880
And it's not shot very well. 
A. 

1270
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,920
Lot of a lot of like night and 
70s ass fucking shooting from 

1271
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,360
the hip as well. 
Yeah. 

1272
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,520
Yeah, like it's like. 
That noise. 

1273
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:30,560
Yeah, just like squibs, squibs 
popping off and like, it's it's 

1274
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,320
cool, but it's it's not the 
Untouchables. 

1275
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:37,120
There's no random Matlow's on 
leave getting shot in snow Bush 

1276
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:37,840
and with a try. 
My gosh. 

1277
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:43,120
Yeah, what does happen though is
the clock on the platform gets 

1278
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,960
shot and it's and the glass 
slashes and it lands at gun 

1279
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,760
droves feet as he's like a bit 
shaken up for having survived 

1280
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,080
that assassination attempt. 
The police comes like whistles 

1281
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,760
and everyone flees the scene. 
And this time it's actual 

1282
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,920
Italian police and not a random 
fucking Russian guy running them

1283
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,440
for whatever reason. 
Yeah, and so the first act of 

1284
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,880
Gontrov is about arrival and 
ambition, then the second act is

1285
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,240
a erosion and instability. 
Alliances begin to crack, 

1286
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,000
personal loyalty's become 
uncertain and the characters 

1287
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,680
slowly realise that the game 
they have entered may not have a

1288
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,640
winning outcome. 
This is my notes I made during 

1289
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:19,800
the week the the apps opens 
several weeks after Gontrov's 

1290
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:25,000
attempted assassination. 
In this time his influences are 

1291
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,600
expanded even more rapidly and 
Andre is very much painted as 

1292
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:32,840
like his sort of two IC like 
right hand man kind of thing. 

1293
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,520
Ever kind of run to the joint 
kind of vibe. 

1294
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,400
The Russian syndicate has 
secured smoking route through 

1295
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,680
the harbour and new connections 
with corrupt officials. 

1296
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,640
We get like a bit where like 
some local functionaries are 

1297
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,840
getting like glad handed, that 
kind of thing. 

1298
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:50,520
Mario Ambrosini is going skits. 
Yeah, Al Pacino is unhappy. 

1299
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:55,400
He's he's, he's knocking over 
Crystal where he's he's knocking

1300
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,920
up, tabling his chess sets and 
he's throwing his fine. 

1301
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:00,720
Leather goes chess sets flying 
in a row. 

1302
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,120
You see that he's like 3 chess 
sets on different tables and 

1303
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,840
he's and he's fucking sweeping 
them off and it's like each one 

1304
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,400
of them has a game on it and 
like a different like kind of 

1305
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:12,440
like level of completion. 
And it's like what story says 

1306
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,880
Frank tell us is he is he 
playing chess by post with 

1307
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:16,880
several dying millionaires 
worldwide? 

1308
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:18,840
Because if so, he says fuck 
those games up. 

1309
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,280
Come on dude, Gather. 
What they should have done this 

1310
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,160
is having like run out of his of
his house, like into the park 

1311
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,040
into sort of like like swapping 
all those games that everyone's 

1312
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,040
playing in the park as well. 
Or just or just like beating 

1313
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,840
everyone at it runs up with some
old guys who's playing as you 

1314
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,320
get out of the way. 
I'm going to take this just like

1315
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,200
fucking fucking like Blitz 
Chestnut, you know, like. 

1316
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:42,440
Bad. 
It's so good. 

1317
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:44,840
Yeah. 
We love, we love Opportune. 

1318
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:46,880
Having a freak out. 
Very, very good. 

1319
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,480
I guess that's often defining a 
character movement for him is 

1320
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:54,280
that he has a short fuse. 
He at the same time now is a 

1321
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,200
meeting with allies and rival 
gang leaders. 

1322
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,680
And I think they're trying to 
get like all the other gangs in 

1323
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,040
Naples to kind of band together 
to get rid of Gun Troll. 

1324
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,840
Because nobody, as much as they 
all don't like each other, the 

1325
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,680
one thing they all really really
hate is a Russian guy instead of

1326
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,960
of Italians, right? 
The idea that they can like kind

1327
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,200
of build alliances with this one
enemies in order to in order to 

1328
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,560
go after this this intruder lost
Raniero, you know, the foreigner

1329
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,320
outside that kind of thing and 
it's like. 

1330
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,880
Yeah, we go back to Gene Hackman
as Valeri Mikhilov. 

1331
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:26,240
The fucking improbable Russian 
police officer, right? 

1332
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,200
Who's working for the Italian 
police? 

1333
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,920
So there was a body. 
A body has been found at the 

1334
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:34,440
docks. 
I don't know why this boy is 

1335
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,440
important because we've seen 
those people get killed already 

1336
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,160
and sent to a pig farm. 
Nevertheless, someone has 

1337
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,680
carelessly left this body in 
situ and Inspector Mikhilov is 

1338
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,400
now doing an investigation on it
and he wants to try and pin the 

1339
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:50,200
murder on Guntarov, who it's 
not, it's not explained. 

1340
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,320
And again, I think this is like 
a four hour cut thing. 

1341
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:56,800
But but Mikhilov knows Guntarov 
and hates Guntarov. 

1342
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,720
And I then, I don't know, 
there's like a few lines like a 

1343
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:04,680
bit throw away where it implies 
that maybe like it's like an old

1344
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:09,240
family feud or it's like stuff 
that happened in the old country

1345
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:09,720
or something. 
If. 

1346
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,240
You were to be super generous. 
You could like perhaps kind of 

1347
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,360
head Canada is maybe one of them
is from like an aristocratic 

1348
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,200
background, like pre pre like 
the revolution and stuff. 

1349
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,800
And maybe there's like old kind 
of like maybe like Mikhailov's 

1350
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,520
kind of like he's got like kind 
of like heritage that's of like 

1351
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,480
the White Russian kind of side, 
you know, like from Bourgeois. 

1352
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,000
But he's. 
Finally lost everything in the 

1353
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,080
revolution. 
Lost everything you know and 

1354
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:35,680
like, but then again that's was 
head cannon and a lot of this 

1355
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,200
film doesn't make fucking sense 
man. 

1356
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,160
He's investigating the harbour 
murder. 

1357
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,680
We literally literally get the 
whole thing where like they turn

1358
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,480
their body over on the harbour. 
Like the crime scene 

1359
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,480
photographer was right in his 
face with his little camera. 

1360
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,760
Like, Gee, what a story. 
It's metal. 

1361
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:50,920
He's like right in the guy's 
fucking face. 

1362
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,200
It's like. 
And there's the press. 

1363
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:54,720
The photographer capture the 
scene there's. 

1364
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,840
A little fucking Jimmy Austin, 
like my press guy hanging around

1365
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,000
as well. 
Yeah. 

1366
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,480
He's like, he's obviously, he's 
like speaking and like he's 

1367
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,640
dubbed over. 
It's ADR, but because it's 

1368
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:08,680
obviously like an Italian local,
but he's like, he's like what? 

1369
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,720
A school, what's going on kind 
of thing He's like. 

1370
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:16,440
The Fox thing, the fact he 
literally says what a scoop as 

1371
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:17,720
well. 
The fact it's literally what a 

1372
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:19,640
scoop is mental to me. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1373
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,200
And then and then we get another
brilliant bit of of Mikhilov 

1374
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,360
punching a guy in the face. 
No due process where Mikhilov 

1375
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,840
comes from. 
He is the law smacks that guy 

1376
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:29,960
plumbing the face. 
Like what the fuck? 

1377
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,640
Italy, Russia, we are not so 
alike. 

1378
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,760
You and I imagine a monologue. 
It's like we both are very 

1379
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:40,000
aggressive police forces. 
Yeah, that happens. 

1380
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,680
And then we cut back to like the
police station, like storms into

1381
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,360
his own office. 
And he's got like one of those 

1382
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:46,680
naughty rooms. 
He's got like a big map on the 

1383
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:48,560
wall. 
And it's like loads of like yarn

1384
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,360
and like people's pictures up 
against it and stuff. 

1385
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,640
And it's, and he's trying and 
it's clear that he's like, 

1386
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,200
trying to like wipe out 
corruption in Naples. 

1387
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:57,840
And he's he's never going to get
anywhere near it. 

1388
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,880
But but he's obviously like a 
hopeless guy on a hopeless 

1389
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,920
mission. 
Times against him take tick. 

1390
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,880
The clock's ticking, man. 
Clock's to give a control of and

1391
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,200
Mikhailov. 
And there's a clock randomly in 

1392
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,840
the corner of the room on a 
table, like just quite 

1393
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,800
relatively low on the ground, 
not in a good kind of dominant 

1394
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,120
position. 
There's just a fucking clock 

1395
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:20,080
just in shot. 
And it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1396
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,240
You can barely see it. 
Like, it's like an alarm clock. 

1397
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:24,960
It's one of those like, like 
radio alarms. 

1398
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,600
And it's like, what? 
We get it. 

1399
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:29,240
The clock is ticking. 
Fucking shot off. 

1400
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,000
It's ticking. 
It's ticking, man, you know? 

1401
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:33,800
Yeah, it's fucking ridiculous. 
Yeah. 

1402
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,080
So he, he's basically saying 
like the Russian syndicate 

1403
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,000
arrived and is going to lead to 
a violent confrontation with 

1404
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,000
Mario's organisation and he 
wants to try and prevent the 

1405
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,280
city from coming to battlefield.
That's his whole big thing. 

1406
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,400
But Mikhilova also understands 
that something the other 

1407
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,000
characters don't, like crime in 
Naples, it's not simply about 

1408
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:48,640
power. 
It's all about relationships, 

1409
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,680
loyalties, fragile balances that
can collapse very quickly, all 

1410
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:53,440
that kind of stuff. 
And hence he's like fucking yarn

1411
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,520
thing if everyone's connected 
and if you take this one piece 

1412
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:56,920
out all the. 
Piece of yeah. 

1413
01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:59,360
Yeah, Pepe. 
Yeah, Pepe Sylvia, I think. 

1414
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,680
Pepe, Sylvia. 
When I when I when I watch it 

1415
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:04,720
with them on the first time, 
surely Pepe Sylvia. 

1416
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,040
Pepe Sylvia, which is a 
reference. 

1417
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:08,280
Is it the same fucking angle as 
well? 

1418
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:09,840
Yeah, it's like the same angle, 
yes. 

1419
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:11,640
It is. 
I mean, I wonder if that scene 

1420
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,400
from All Was Sunny in 
Philadelphia was maybe kind of. 

1421
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,360
Oblique reference to control. 
There's only so many ways you 

1422
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:19,960
can like shoot that particular 
scene. 

1423
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:21,960
Like there's so many angles you 
can shoot at us. 

1424
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,920
But still the blocking and the 
whole thing of I need to go back

1425
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,480
and review that episode like 
because. 

1426
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:28,960
Yeah, that's wild. 
We're. 

1427
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,440
Making a lot of connections. 
Yeah, much like a fucking Pepe 

1428
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,760
Sylvia board. 
Too deep maybe? 

1429
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:36,200
Perhaps. 
I mean, yeah, so. 

1430
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:40,320
So the next thing we've got is, 
is to dub the cigarettes in the 

1431
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,360
rain scene. 
So it's it's pissing down in 

1432
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,640
Naples. 
Gunter of IS stood under a 

1433
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,440
street light watching a shipment
come in. 

1434
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,880
Yeah. 
Andrea's with him and Andrea 

1435
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,760
asks Guntrell if he has a light 
for a cigarette. 

1436
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,520
So they both put their 
cigarettes together and Guntrell

1437
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,760
tries to light with a single 
flame, both of them at the same 

1438
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,760
time. 
Both of them light up. 

1439
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:05,440
They have a single puff and then
the rain puts out both 

1440
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:09,080
cigarettes and they look at each
other, longing in the in their 

1441
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,440
eyes, but they don't see 
anything and it's like the spark

1442
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,240
has been thwarted by the world 
they inhabit. 

1443
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,680
No writers who use subtext. 
And they're all cowards. 

1444
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,840
They're all cowards. 
Yeah, They might as well swap 

1445
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,520
cigarettes for a second, Do you 
know what I mean? 

1446
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,359
Jesus Christ. 
But while we're here, we're on 

1447
01:08:28,359 --> 01:08:30,439
to the actual tango. 
Well, there's another casino 

1448
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,040
scene, right? 
Where we get a lay of the land. 

1449
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,520
Everyone's in the casino again. 
The. 

1450
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,760
There's like the fucking mare, I
think. 

1451
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,000
And like a trade Union Leader or
something. 

1452
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:42,479
Kind of. 
Oh. 

1453
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,040
Yeah, that guy. 
The really fucking greasy dude. 

1454
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:49,000
Yes, yeah. 
The guy looks like like, like 

1455
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:53,160
the like the sweaty Papa John 
video, but he's like I, I've, 

1456
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,840
I've had like, was it fucking 
like 35 pizzas in the last 31 

1457
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:58,800
days and trying to push out my 
company. 

1458
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,160
He's he's that level of like 
moist, intense. 

1459
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:02,479
Yeah, yeah. 
So. 

1460
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:03,680
Weird you guys caught that 
right? 

1461
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,880
How fucking just sweaty this 
dude is? 

1462
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,200
All I can think of you was like 
directly under one of like the 

1463
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,600
lights maybe? 
Yeah, yeah, I gotta find his. 

1464
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,560
I'm gonna find him on the IMDb, 
his Hector Limonez. 

1465
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,760
Hector Limonez. 
Fucking gal. 

1466
01:09:17,399 --> 01:09:18,920
And the rest of his credits were
Italian. 

1467
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,319
I guess he was like an Italian, 
like film or TV guy. 

1468
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,640
Like a version of like, like 
he's one of their that guys, 

1469
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:26,880
right? 
There's probably loads of people

1470
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,439
in Italy. 
I don't know if you have any 

1471
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:32,080
Italian listeners among like the
22 or that countries that listen

1472
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:33,840
to this show. 
Thank you very much, guys. 

1473
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,640
By the way, we'll keep adding 
more and more, more and more 

1474
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:42,080
overseas listeners to our show 
every every week or so, which is

1475
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:45,240
really cool. 
So if you recognise this guy, 

1476
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,600
shout up. 
If you know us contact details, 

1477
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:50,720
keep me yourself. 
We don't want to show we stop 

1478
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:51,359
that. 
Indeed. 

1479
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,640
So we get about that and it's 
like this reminds me a bit of of

1480
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,120
Tafin. 
It's like lower level 

1481
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,760
functionaries in the area 
talking about like a particular 

1482
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,040
fucking bit of land deal or 
something like that. 

1483
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,440
It's just like, OK, whatever, 
this is boring, but I get it. 

1484
01:10:04,440 --> 01:10:06,800
Like there's property 
development in Naples and and 

1485
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,960
the Russians own the territory 
and blah blah blah blah blah. 

1486
01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:12,200
You will not do the rezoning of 
our territory. 

1487
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,040
And then right, this is what 
gets confusing because then we 

1488
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,280
then we cut to the dance floor 
again that we saw earlier on, 

1489
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:19,880
obviously the same location and 
everything. 

1490
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,600
I swear to God, it looks like 
it's exactly the same scene, but

1491
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,960
like Sophia is like is dancing 
with that same old dude, but 

1492
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,280
instead of like it cutting when 
she like looks away from 

1493
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,720
catcher, it's like the dance 
finishes and she walks up to 

1494
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,320
catcher. 
And then they have like like 

1495
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,360
what is called like the famous 
tango scene. 

1496
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,840
So the jazz band has given away 
to a small tango ensembler. 

1497
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:42,040
Banda neon violin, upright bass.
This is this is on the 

1498
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,160
screenplay. 
Smoke curls towards the ceiling.

1499
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,560
Glasses clink. 
Laughter erupts at scattered 

1500
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,640
tables. 
The banana headdress dancer, 

1501
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,880
which is in the fucking 
screenplay has moved off stage. 

1502
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:55,720
That's what we call it as well. 
Banana headdress dancer like 

1503
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,160
other had dancers. 
Other dancers are available. 

1504
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,720
Not the Chiquita banana that 
sits on a nearby table like an 

1505
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,320
absurd crown. 
Politicians and gangsters crowd 

1506
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:08,520
the room at the bar. 
So yeah, they move over to the 

1507
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:09,560
bar. 
I guess Cat just stands alone 

1508
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:10,720
with the glass of wine she 
hasn't touched. 

1509
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:12,000
Her eyes drift back towards the 
dust floor. 

1510
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,880
I think that's changed that 
that's different in the movie 

1511
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,160
and then Sophia still dancing 
with the LDL estre here. 

1512
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:17,560
It's where it picks up in the in
the movie. 

1513
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,360
Man moves safely. 
Sophia moves like water, guiding

1514
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:21,720
magnificently. 
Catcher watches. 

1515
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:23,880
Something about Sophia's 
movement seems to quiet the 

1516
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,200
noise of the room. 
Blah blah blah blah blah. 

1517
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,720
Dance ends. 
Guy shuffles off music shifts, 

1518
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:34,800
opening bars of another tango. 
Sophia walks towards Katya, 

1519
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,840
stops just in front of her. 
Neither woman speaks. 

1520
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,440
Sophia tilts her head slightly. 
You dance Katya? 

1521
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:41,960
Not often. 
Fuck me. 

1522
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,280
It's like a fucking Gunter off 
family trait. 

1523
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,560
It's these fucking two word 
sentences. 

1524
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:53,840
While it's wild, you say This is
why, This is why Gulsharov and 

1525
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,280
Kathy Koncharova don't have much
relationship. 

1526
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,600
Do you speak in two word fucking
sentences? 

1527
01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:00,240
How can you? 
How? 

1528
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,640
How can you, how can you build a
marriage? 

1529
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:07,960
But all you do was like say 
fridge empty, no shop today. 

1530
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:14,920
Boing Boing head hurts. 
So Sophia puts a hand out 

1531
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:16,360
tonight seems like a good 
exception. 

1532
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,080
And then they she puts a hand in
hers. 

1533
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,120
They step into like the light on
the dance floor. 

1534
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:26,040
We get like it's it's the same 
bit of tango music that I think 

1535
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,280
was used in the scent of a woman
when he's like Al Pacino again. 

1536
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,640
So I thought it was like, and 
again, another like cinema 

1537
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:35,640
reference to Gunter of where 
like that same music from the 

1538
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,640
sense of women where he's like 
blind and dancing in the tango. 

1539
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:43,160
It's a piece of music. 
You don't have a film that's in 

1540
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:44,600
that. 
I also want us to do at some 

1541
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,880
point, maybe for an episode of 
Enrol in the Kitchen Drink and 

1542
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:48,640
be a talking about with True 
Lies. 

1543
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:51,640
Oh yeah. 
That's in True Lies, baby. 

1544
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,000
It's in the tango scene at the 
start. 

1545
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:54,280
Oh, we. 
Should do that because you 

1546
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:55,360
talked about doing that last 
year. 

1547
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:56,720
We should do that. 
I did, yeah. 

1548
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:00,920
At first, at first their 
movements are cautious. 

1549
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:02,960
This is this is again from this 
is the stage direction. 

1550
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,560
At first their movements are 
cautious, testing each other's 

1551
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,640
rhythm. 
Does that mean they begin to 

1552
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,160
move more fluidly? 
The tango becomes intimate. 

1553
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:12,960
Catcher follows Sophia's lead, 
quickly matches her step to 

1554
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,240
step. 
The camera circles them slowly, 

1555
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,040
not like in carried where it's 
like spinning and spinning and 

1556
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:21,760
spinning in terrible. 
Around them, the club continues 

1557
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,200
it's chaotic life. 
Mario's men whisper over the 

1558
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,120
cars, a politician drinkingly 
arguing with a bartender. 

1559
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,280
Your husband watches everything.
Katya glances towards the 

1560
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,160
balcony. 
Guntherov stands there, speaking

1561
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,480
quietly with a group of men. 
His eyes scan the room 

1562
01:13:34,480 --> 01:13:36,880
constantly. 
Katya, he trusts nothing. 

1563
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:40,120
Sofia, that must be exhausting. 
Katya almost smiles. 

1564
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,400
They turn again. 
The dancer was more intense. 

1565
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,400
Sofia, what about you? 
Katya, what about me? 

1566
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,640
Sofia, do you trust anything? 
Katya considers. 

1567
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:50,880
I trust gravity. 
It's the only thing that hasn't 

1568
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:54,440
let me down yet. 
Fucking hell, fucking hell. 

1569
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:59,280
I can't decide if it's a bar, if
it's funny, if it's accidentally

1570
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:00,680
funny. 
What the hell? 

1571
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,120
I'm putting the fork. 
Do you guys think that was put 

1572
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,560
in there as a joke? 
It must have been like, how did 

1573
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:06,880
she keep a straight face during 
that? 

1574
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,000
Like that's ridiculous. 
And obviously like, you know, 

1575
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,200
they have the whole thing in 
Taxi where it goes to like watch

1576
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:13,760
a movie and it's a fucking porn 
movie. 

1577
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:17,480
Like she must know, like there's
jokes in this movie. 

1578
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:20,720
I just remember the fucking porn
movie date from OH. 

1579
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,360
Fucking Sophia that's a lonely 
way to live. 

1580
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,800
CATCHER You seem less lonely. 
Sophia Appearances are 

1581
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,600
persuasive liars. 
And then Sophia well, that's 

1582
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,720
absolute. 
Appearances are persuasive 

1583
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:34,280
liars. 
Sophia what brought you to 

1584
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,400
Naples? 
Catcher A train. 

1585
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:42,320
It's like everyone in this film 
is gay and autistic. 

1586
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,240
It is the most 2026 film we've 
done. 

1587
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,840
It really is. 
And then Sofia, what? 

1588
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,240
What will keep you here? 
Catcher does not answer. 

1589
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,280
I really hope she would say 
something like that'll. 

1590
01:14:56,400 --> 01:15:03,200
Keep me here. 
ScotRail The dance ends up 

1591
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:04,240
replays. 
Music stops. 

1592
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,200
The pause scatters throughout 
the club. 

1593
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:07,760
Obviously some people are 
whispering because it's like 

1594
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,760
it's two women, two women. 
Lesbianas in my doubt club. 

1595
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:13,600
Indeed. 
And then across the room, 

1596
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,280
Guntarov watches from the 
balcony, his expression 

1597
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,280
unreadable because he's 
unreadable for the whole movie. 

1598
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,840
And behind him, Andre leans 
casually against the railing. 

1599
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:24,400
She dances well. 
Guntarov says nothing. 

1600
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:26,200
Andre. 
So does the city. 

1601
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,320
So does the city. 
Guntarov yet again, with his 

1602
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,400
fucking favourite saying. 
Cities fall, empires crumble, 

1603
01:15:33,440 --> 01:15:36,280
clocks stop ticking, Andre 
eventually. 

1604
01:15:37,480 --> 01:15:40,520
It's like Andreas Andreas inner 
monologue is like don't shout 

1605
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,320
off I am hard gay for you. 
Everyone's. 

1606
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:45,960
So everyone's an edge Lord. 
Everyone in this whole movie is 

1607
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,240
an edge Lord. 
Like no one can talk normal, 

1608
01:15:48,480 --> 01:15:51,760
just talk normal. 
It's a city's fall. 

1609
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,080
Empires crumble, go back to the 
club. 

1610
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,960
Come give me a hug, I can really
get rubs. 

1611
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:09,120
My job sucks. 
Oh God, cities fall. 

1612
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,880
My back is killing me. 
I'm very busy. 

1613
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:16,520
Cities fall man. 
Sorry, witness. 

1614
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:21,600
Oh man, fucking Christ. 
Sofia, there are quieter places.

1615
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:23,920
She writes an address on a 
napkin hanser to catch her. 

1616
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,560
If you ever want to see the city
without all the noise, find me 

1617
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:31,040
in Libri Effimethi on via 
Alessio Mccuttsey between PM and

1618
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:34,080
three PMI SEL who made copies of
Italian Spider Man comics. 

1619
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:40,480
I fucking love it and give. 
Some like a fucking time slot as

1620
01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:41,840
well. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1621
01:16:42,440 --> 01:16:45,360
This, this was actually being a 
bit of a fucking card watching 

1622
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,280
the film and Nelly got a fucking
slap on the back of the head, 

1623
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,640
but I was like ever. 
I bet she was just written like 

1624
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:54,520
my pussy on the napkin. 
Yeah, that's literally, that's 

1625
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,440
literally it. 
So she's like, yeah, she says 

1626
01:16:56,440 --> 01:16:59,120
that and then like she walks out
catch she watches ago. 

1627
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,400
And I feel like this was meant 
to happen like the first time 

1628
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,440
they met because they've already
met up and she's obviously she's

1629
01:17:05,440 --> 01:17:07,320
obviously gone to this place and
they've met each other already 

1630
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:08,880
and they've had the political 
meeting and stuff. 

1631
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:11,920
So they've kind of sorted it 
later in the film to probably 

1632
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:13,760
make more sense, more intimate 
later. 

1633
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:15,680
But it's also like still frames 
like a first thing. 

1634
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:19,040
It's really fucked up. 
Anyway, stupid, stupid film. 

1635
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,120
Anyway, I love it. 
Stupid film. 

1636
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:25,160
Let me get a really weird scene.
And it's only short and it's a 

1637
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,160
bit like experimental cinema, I 
guess. 

1638
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,920
We get a scene, it cuts to them 
like there's no establishing 

1639
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,800
shot or anything. 
It's literally Katya and Sofia 

1640
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:36,000
sitting at a table outside, like
our fresh cook kind of thing, 

1641
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:37,640
outside a Cafe, sipping like a 
drink. 

1642
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:41,280
And then Andre is there, but 
Andre is playing the violin. 

1643
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,880
It's so weird. 
And it goes on for like a minute

1644
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:47,360
and I and I don't like, what did
you think when you saw that? 

1645
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,560
Like what the fuck? 
I actually said out loud, this 

1646
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:54,040
is the world's worst Polly duel.
Could you imagine? 

1647
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,640
It's like we have, we have 
successfully collectivised the 

1648
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,560
relationship. 
It's so weird. 

1649
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:03,600
Like is, is it fucking symbolic 
that he's doing the it's like 

1650
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,920
symbolic, is he really there? 
Is is is him? 

1651
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:11,040
Is is him playing the violin 
just a symbol of Howard doing 

1652
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:14,320
this on that like everyone's 
nose kind of thing. 

1653
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:17,320
It was so weird. 
Yeah, it reminds me makes. 

1654
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,680
Sense, right? 
It remind me of that bit in in 

1655
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:24,200
The Simpsons where like Homer's 
watching Twin Peaks, but it's 

1656
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,640
but it's like a White Horse 
dancing with somebody under a 

1657
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,920
tree next to a street lamp and 
he's like brilliant. 

1658
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:37,040
I have no idea what's going on. 
I honestly think maybe the 

1659
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:40,640
correct outcome is they probably
had an extra setup to play the 

1660
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,160
violin who couldn't make it that
day. 

1661
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,160
And he's just like, put me in 
coach. 

1662
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,560
To me, Harvey Katel, what are 
the lead actors in the film? 

1663
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,440
I'll do it. 
Yeah, I'll do it and just tell, 

1664
01:18:52,440 --> 01:18:55,240
tell people or not question it. 
And then fucking 40 odd years 

1665
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,200
down the line, fucking hell, 50 
years top cheer. 

1666
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,440
I'm old. 50 years down the line,
a bunch of film dirt. 

1667
01:18:59,440 --> 01:19:01,120
So good. 
Do you think he's really there 

1668
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:03,640
in the scene or, or is he just a
symbol? 

1669
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,120
And we will, Harvey Kate, tell 
us for sake. 

1670
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,760
I'm just trying to not do the 
usual Harvey Keitel thing of 

1671
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,720
getting my Dick out for my role.
That's what I was going to say. 

1672
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:19,880
I was going to watch the piano. 
So there's two scenes in quick 

1673
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:21,920
succession. 
So there's one where we see Ice 

1674
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:25,480
Pick Drew being an enforcer. 
So like we introduced to his Ice

1675
01:19:25,480 --> 01:19:27,480
pick basically. 
And then the next scene I think 

1676
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,960
is really weird. 
So it's Ice Pick Drew's famous 

1677
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:31,280
monologue. 
It's not really a monologue. 

1678
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:33,600
It's a it's a 2 hander, but it's
they call it monologue because 

1679
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:35,640
he does the most of the talking,
because he's the only person in 

1680
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,280
this film that can string a 
sentence together. 

1681
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,400
He's he's the only one of the 
actors who didn't that fucking 

1682
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,480
carbon monoxide exposure during 
the during the film and 

1683
01:19:42,480 --> 01:19:47,560
basically. 
Is alone in her, like I guess 

1684
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:49,520
they live in like a large 
apartment or a townhouse or 

1685
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,160
something. 
See bunch of works all the time.

1686
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:53,480
He's never home. 
That's part of the reason why 

1687
01:19:53,480 --> 01:19:54,520
they have such a terrible 
marriage. 

1688
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:59,600
She's there on her own. 
Sophia is implied as to have 

1689
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,920
just left because there's like 
like an ashtray on a table and 

1690
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:04,240
it's like a cigarette still 
burning. 

1691
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,680
That's obviously not catches. 
Catches Smokey as well. 

1692
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,040
Everyone in the film smokes all 
the time. 

1693
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,840
It's great. 
You can almost smell this film. 

1694
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,960
Yes, yeah, honking. 
Did you know what kind of person

1695
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:18,480
off for like the whole like 
nature of control of the control

1696
01:20:18,480 --> 01:20:22,120
of as marriage, right? 
When you're a crime boss, you 

1697
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:26,080
can make your own hours, right? 
You've got shit on the go, but 

1698
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,160
you haven't like a manager. 
You've got like constantly 

1699
01:20:28,440 --> 01:20:30,160
checking in with peas, with 
deer. 

1700
01:20:30,440 --> 01:20:33,760
It's not like a fucking Rd I 
stick to you're literally there 

1701
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:37,360
is no one above you. 
You know you can, you can you 

1702
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,480
can bitch things off to your 
minions and stuff. 

1703
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:41,680
Go do this. 
Go kill Jimmy the heart. 

1704
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:44,880
I'm just gonna chill here with 
my wife, otherwise I am going to

1705
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:47,240
get cooked big time by Sophia 
Loren. 

1706
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,320
Makes you wonder like why, why 
you get into, I mean, I'm not a 

1707
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:51,920
crime boss. 
Why would you get why did you 

1708
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,600
get into it if you're not going 
to like have some fun, you know,

1709
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:57,120
have a nice he's working anti 
social hours here. 

1710
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:59,960
You should be like, if I was a 
crime boss, I'd be finished by 

1711
01:20:59,960 --> 01:21:04,120
like half three every day. 
Yeah, yeah, I'd be finished with

1712
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:06,280
half three. 
My wet works guys were doing the

1713
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:07,960
night shift. 
I would just fucking chill. 

1714
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,920
Watch the money coming in, show 
the flag in meetings, you know, 

1715
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:12,960
speak, speak my underlings and 
stuff. 

1716
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:16,160
Have a good time. 
Have sex with Civil Shepherd a 

1717
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,040
lot, you know. 
You know, you know I do. 

1718
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:21,920
I always be like Vito Corleone 
at the end of The Godfather. 

1719
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:25,840
I'd be just sitting in Sicily 
with my house and my orange 

1720
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:27,600
grooves in front of me, 
whatever. 

1721
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,000
And I'd be in orange and I'd do 
the thing where I put the peel 

1722
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,080
in my mouth to use my, my, my 
child nephew. 

1723
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:34,640
And then I would dive a heart 
attack. 

1724
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:40,680
That's what I'd do. 
Yeah, I mean, anyway, the best 

1725
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:43,840
end of crime Boston willpower is
to dive a heart attack while 

1726
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:45,520
entertain your nephew, right? 
And me. 

1727
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:48,720
And let's say you're not getting
like whacked in Somali way, you 

1728
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:50,920
know, because it's like at that 
point you don't cry, boss. 

1729
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,000
You can chill. 
You don't need to be hands on. 

1730
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:54,840
Pay attention to your woman, 
dude. 

1731
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:57,560
City's fallen sort of marriages.
Sort of marriages, man. 

1732
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,960
Yeah, go bars Gunture off 
Gunture. 

1733
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:04,640
Fucking lunar. 
I speak Joe infiltrates the 

1734
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:06,600
apartment. 
Catcher is not afraid of it. 

1735
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,920
And I think that implies but, 
and it's probably a four hour 

1736
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,120
cut thing like Catcher and I 
speak Joe already knew each 

1737
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:15,480
other and maybe he's like a guy 
for hire and maybe she's worked 

1738
01:22:15,480 --> 01:22:18,120
for maybe for both. 
But I think they have a bit of 

1739
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:21,720
a, a bond because she's a bit of
a, you know, a bird with a 

1740
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:23,040
broken wing, bit of a loss. 
So. 

1741
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:27,080
And he is very much the same 
because he's like John Cazale. 

1742
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:33,880
Yeah, Joe has been sent by Mario
to deliver a warning to Gontrov.

1743
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:35,960
Guntrov's not in. 
He's never fucking in. 

1744
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,800
All right? 
So instead he finds Katya alone 

1745
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:40,160
in the drawing room with her 
apartment. 

1746
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:42,840
He places his ice pick down on 
the table. 

1747
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,440
He's there's. 
Have you seen like the the the 

1748
01:22:45,440 --> 01:22:47,600
commentary online about how the 
ice pick is a reference to like 

1749
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,680
the mood? 
Like how Trotsky was 

1750
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:53,120
assassinated? 
I didn't say discourse about it,

1751
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:54,920
but half with him. 
I sat in the watch. 

1752
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:56,960
I thought, well, actually the 
ice pick, Trotsky. 

1753
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:58,440
There you go. 
There you go. 

1754
01:22:58,440 --> 01:22:59,800
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1755
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,880
This this whole film gives 
itself eagerly to over analysis,

1756
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:07,240
But I mean, come on. 
Yeah, there's got there's got to

1757
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:08,440
be a reason why it's an ice 
pick. 

1758
01:23:08,440 --> 01:23:09,640
I mean, he could have been 
hatchet jewel. 

1759
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:13,800
He could have been could have 
been stocking full of sand 

1760
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:15,600
jewel. 
He could have been he could have

1761
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,560
been 2 golf balls and a sock 
jewel. 

1762
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:20,200
But he's ice pick jewel for a 
reason. 

1763
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:25,960
And it's like, because that was 
indeed the fall of a, of a 

1764
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:29,120
authoritative, powerful Russian 
who fled Russia, right? 

1765
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:33,640
So back to the movie. 
So catch completely unfazed by 

1766
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,960
Isaac Jew's appearance, says 
you're early. 

1767
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,480
Joe sits down, puts the puts 
aspect down and she finally 

1768
01:23:38,480 --> 01:23:42,160
looks up, studies him and goes I
wounded when Mario would send 

1769
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,040
you. 
Joe doesn't say anything and Joe

1770
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:45,920
goes out of nowhere. 
And this is pretty. 

1771
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:49,440
Judy says you remember the 
hospital and it's like what it's

1772
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:53,000
like I I don't as a viewer of 
the movie, don't remember the 

1773
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:54,360
hospital. 
The fuck are you talking about? 

1774
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:58,560
I remember the man who would not
stop screaming, and Joe nods a 

1775
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,120
little bit. 
They said I was sick, said my 

1776
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,440
head was wrong. 
Joe picks up the ice pick again 

1777
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:06,440
and taps, taps it against the 
desk. 

1778
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:08,720
Tick, tick. 
They had tools for that. 

1779
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:12,120
Catcher glances at the ice pick.
And did it work? 

1780
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:15,360
Joe smiles faintly. 
I left before they could try. 

1781
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,800
I love how he should just assume
as he's being lobotomized like 

1782
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:23,000
many of the characters and 
actors in this film clearly 

1783
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:24,840
were. 
And you told me something once. 

1784
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:26,840
You said a man isn't what was 
done to him. 

1785
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,840
Do you remember saying that? 
It's just like I, I said a lot 

1786
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,400
of things. 
Most people lie when they say 

1787
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,840
it. 
Joe picks up the ice pick, turns

1788
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,320
it slowly in his fingers. 
You believed it? 

1789
01:24:37,480 --> 01:24:39,720
Catcher leans forward. 
If I believe it while you're 

1790
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,280
here working for Mario. 
Joe shrugs. 

1791
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,040
Because believing something and 
living it. 

1792
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:47,400
He types the He types the ice 
pick against the decks again are

1793
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,240
two different things. 
The catcher. 

1794
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,320
Did Mario send you to kill 
Gunter of? 

1795
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,520
Joe shakes his head. 
Not tonight. 

1796
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:57,280
He puts the pick down, but the 
clock is moving. 

1797
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:00,680
Catcher for whom? 
Joe moves towards the door. 

1798
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,400
He stops without turning around.
Everyone. 

1799
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,880
Joe exits. 
A ticking clock fills the room. 

1800
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:11,640
Cut to black chills. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1801
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:12,760
Everyone. 
So. 

1802
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:15,080
So we've just met ice picture 
for the first time. 

1803
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:18,960
Turns out he was in an asylum. 
Catcher was in the asylum? 

1804
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:19,600
Yeah. 
That's. 

1805
01:25:20,440 --> 01:25:23,320
It doesn't make any sense. 
The four hour cut. 

1806
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,080
You know what? 
I bet the four hour cut also 

1807
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:26,920
fails to shed light on any of 
this. 

1808
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:31,760
Like like the the four hour 
cuts, there's a second extra 2 

1809
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:35,680
two hours of Kathy and Sofia 
just dancing and it doesn't 

1810
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,160
answer any fucking questions at 
all. 

1811
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:42,160
Because drunk as all does an 
American accent, I've got no 

1812
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:45,800
idea if I speak Jew is Russian 
or if he's a Neapolitan and at 

1813
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:51,920
what point they met anybody. 
It's a very cosmopolitan city is

1814
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:54,400
Napoli right? 
I mean, it's got like a Russian 

1815
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:58,320
chief of police cutting around 
in his fucking fucking Bosco 

1816
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:03,280
militia uniform has got an 
American mental patient as as 

1817
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:05,680
like the chief works for hire 
guy. 

1818
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,720
There's there's a big fat 
Russian but a pig farm just 

1819
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:14,400
outside tower. 
The next vaccine is this is 

1820
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:19,760
where I start to feel Martin 
Kasuzi's hand as as because big 

1821
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,560
Catholic energy. 
The next thing we get is the the

1822
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:29,680
chime of a cathedral bell. 
And then Gontarov himself begins

1823
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:31,280
to experience doubts about the 
world he's created. 

1824
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:34,400
And then he goes into the 
cathedral late at night and sits

1825
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:36,560
alone into a in a church 
confessional booth. 

1826
01:26:38,480 --> 01:26:41,400
He begins speaking quietly to an
unseen priest on the other side 

1827
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:43,200
of the screen. 
And I don't know why. 

1828
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,160
I don't know why there's a 
confession scene in the movie, 

1829
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:47,680
but there is. 
So the first he's like, you 

1830
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,240
know, routine crime, confession 
of a criminal. 

1831
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:52,400
He's like, you know, forgive me,
Father I've for I've sinned. 

1832
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,440
It has been three weeks since my
last confession. 

1833
01:26:54,440 --> 01:26:57,640
Oh, go on, my son. 
And he's like, Father I've I've 

1834
01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:59,920
committed violent deeds against 
my fellow man. 

1835
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,320
As it continues, it gets a bit 
darker. 

1836
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:05,320
And don't Rob isn't like seeking
forgiveness. 

1837
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:08,400
He's kind of like having his 
long dark tea Time of the soul. 

1838
01:27:08,480 --> 01:27:11,920
And he asks the priest like 
whether the life he has built 

1839
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:13,880
has any meaning at all. 
And the priest? 

1840
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,840
He offers no easy answers. 
And also I don't want to fucking

1841
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:20,440
assume things don't shut off. 
Would be Russian Orthodox right?

1842
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:22,560
He wouldn't be a Catholic. 
I think so, yeah. 

1843
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:26,440
So, yeah, so he's gone to 
Catholic Church. 

1844
01:27:26,440 --> 01:27:29,720
He's like, actually. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1845
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:32,880
And then he just leaves and that
was the confession scene for 

1846
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:36,880
like some reason. 
And if you like didn't make any 

1847
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:40,480
sense, guess what happens next. 
Mario and Guntrov play chess 

1848
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:44,120
again because like fucking why 
not, right? 

1849
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:46,320
God, it's only been like fucking
15 minutes since I last saw 

1850
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,240
someone play chess. 
Oh my God. 

1851
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:50,640
So yeah, back in the backroom 
like scenic club. 

1852
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:52,520
I'm sure it was on the fucking 
same day shooting. 

1853
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:55,000
I think we may be like swapped 
out fucking Guntrovs cravat for 

1854
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:59,040
a different cravat or something.
Probably little car I walked in 

1855
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:00,400
the background that has to walk 
off. 

1856
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:04,160
Can you imagine if you did the 
other groups but actually walks 

1857
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:05,200
on? 
I forget to wonder what would 

1858
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:10,120
cost you by accident. 
So good this time, the kind of 

1859
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,280
like through gritted teeth 
diplomacy of the first one is 

1860
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:14,160
kind of shifted. 
The next move will not be on the

1861
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:16,560
chess board. 
It will be on the streets and 

1862
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:20,120
then we get an emotional scene 
now between this is really 

1863
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:22,560
unearned, right? 
So we get like, this is the big 

1864
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,520
scene between Catcher and 
Guntrove on the bridge, right? 

1865
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:29,200
This is so fucking stupid. 
So we learn a bit about their 

1866
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:33,200
background, but we it's so an 
end, right? 

1867
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:35,960
It's going to be a Catcher 
conference. 

1868
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:38,800
Guntrove, on a bridge 
overlooking the harbour and the 

1869
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:40,120
clock tower, is visible in the 
distance. 

1870
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:44,120
As always, she pulls a gun. 
Catcher pulls a gun. 

1871
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,800
With a proper flourish as well, 
it's like. 

1872
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,160
Yeah, pulls a gun. 
It's like I'm going to shoot 

1873
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:49,600
that. 
Damn. 

1874
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:54,120
Car full of holes. 
Neil Green is fucking a gun on 

1875
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:57,800
us, man. 
Yeah, she pulls a gun and she 

1876
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:03,080
points it directly and he's 
like, no, no, no, Jesus Christ. 

1877
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:06,480
She lowers the weapon slightly 
because we're they're like kind 

1878
01:29:06,480 --> 01:29:07,680
of stir each other's eyes for a 
bit. 

1879
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:09,960
Deniro does that amazing thing 
he does where he has that kind 

1880
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:13,000
of smoke, so satisfied kind of 
weird smile that he does when 

1881
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:15,360
he's kind of angry, like, yes, 
does that face. 

1882
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:20,680
So she he's doing that face. 
She's kind of like there with a 

1883
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:23,000
gun. 
And then eventually she kind of 

1884
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:26,000
loses her nerve a little bit and
lowers the gun a little bit and 

1885
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:28,640
then and then like gotten drum 
is like, what is this? 

1886
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:30,680
What is this? 
Don't you love me? 

1887
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:32,920
And and she's like, of course 
we're in love. 

1888
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:34,720
That's why I tried to shoot you.
It's. 

1889
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,760
Like. 
A fucking scene, yeah. 

1890
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:41,640
Just like I'm. 
Like what was that? 

1891
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:44,200
Incredible. 
Cut scene. 

1892
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:49,600
Incredible stuff plan. 
Yeah, if I was to be charitable 

1893
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:52,400
about this scene, I would say 
this is the emotional core of 

1894
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:54,400
the film. 
Unfortunately, this is so 

1895
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:57,520
clumsy, this film that is like 
at some points really, really 

1896
01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:59,600
brilliant and some points 
really, really fucking all over 

1897
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:01,800
the place. 
A bit like my opinion of the 

1898
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:04,080
film Mean Streets, which I know 
people really, really love, but 

1899
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:05,640
I think that film is a fucking 
mess sometimes. 

1900
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:10,760
And and I know like I haven't. 
Whereas your fucking several 

1901
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:13,040
fucking Oscar winning films, 
obviously I haven't got any. 

1902
01:30:13,440 --> 01:30:18,160
So, you know, like Stolmadits. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1903
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:22,480
Yeah, Jesus Christ, you know, 
but yeah, gone to Rob is 

1904
01:30:22,480 --> 01:30:23,920
definitely like where he's 
learning his craft. 

1905
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:29,520
So I think yeah, and I think he 
hasn't he hasn't quite compiled 

1906
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:31,480
all his LFE from from mean 
streets yet. 

1907
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:34,240
I'm going to just list out a 
number of the scenes. 

1908
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:38,640
So first of all, the, the tit 
for tat kind of like occasional,

1909
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:40,760
you know, put one in the 
hospital, the youth one in the 

1910
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:43,680
morgue kind of stuff is given 
away to like a full attack. 

1911
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:47,960
Mario does a big ambush on one 
of Guntrove's warehouses, 

1912
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:53,040
smashes up a load of like crates
and stuff, sets fire to some 

1913
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:57,480
crates, kills a bunch of guys. 
Smoke rises over the city. 

1914
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:00,120
Guntrove gets informed by a 
phone call. 

1915
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:01,840
He slams down the receiver. 
He's really pissed off. 

1916
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:06,120
Says more than 4 words. 
Says well yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

1917
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:08,440
I want him dead. 
I want him dead. 

1918
01:31:08,440 --> 01:31:10,760
I want his family dead. 
I want I want to burn down his 

1919
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:15,640
house and piss on his ashes. 
I want to protect my gay wife 

1920
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:20,040
off my hands. 
Jesus Christ, same thing. 

1921
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:22,680
So yeah, get that. 
So Marizanne Bush on the, on the

1922
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:25,280
harbour, all those functionaries
that they're getting bribed, 

1923
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:28,680
stop getting bribed. 
And like police start like 

1924
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:32,200
arresting like bad members of 
gun trobs gang without any 

1925
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:33,880
fucking evidence or anything 
because they can, because 

1926
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:36,200
they're the fucking police. 
And, and everyone's like, what 

1927
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:37,600
are you doing here? 
What are you doing here? 

1928
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:39,720
And they're just like fucking 
bundling people in the backs of 

1929
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,760
vans and gun robbers. 
Like, oh shit, I've failed to do

1930
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:44,440
that thing that you're meant to 
do when you sort of a crime 

1931
01:31:44,440 --> 01:31:47,760
network, which is to like secure
the establishment so that you, 

1932
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:50,160
you become like a thing that 
they have to live with rather 

1933
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:52,400
than like something they're 
trying to actively destroy. 

1934
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:56,880
I think that like the this, the 
bullshit, I've seen that like 3 

1935
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,680
or 4 of the extras in that 
scene, but like play outs from 

1936
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:02,160
the Italian National Football 
team, I think that's bullshit. 

1937
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:05,560
Yeah, that's it, right. 
Whoa. 

1938
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:07,760
I mean, I don't know what I 
don't know about like 1970s 

1939
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:09,440
fucking. 
Yeah, yeah, you put media about 

1940
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:12,120
that, but I've had a deep dive 
and there's some people who will

1941
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:15,520
fucking fight in the streets to 
say that like three or four of 

1942
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:18,200
those guys were actually as the 
fucking Italian national team 

1943
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:20,680
who did like fucking unclear 
cabbios. 

1944
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:24,640
So we get like another montage 
now, but it's like the net is 

1945
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:28,680
closing on on Guntroff. 
So like not Andre obviously, but

1946
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:31,720
like his over lieutenants start 
getting like assassinated like 1

1947
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:33,640
by 1. 
So we got that guy who gets like

1948
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:37,200
he's in his bathtub. 
He just gets like, killed to 

1949
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:39,040
kill in his bathtub. 
It's so wild. 

1950
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:41,360
It's so wild because like, 
obviously they can't have like 

1951
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:43,440
kind of squibs going off on his 
bare skin. 

1952
01:32:43,440 --> 01:32:46,760
So it kind of like cuts away for
a moment to that shot of just 

1953
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:49,360
the mirror with like no one 
behind it or in it. 

1954
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:52,480
And that it's like, and he's 
lying like just like, just like,

1955
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:56,920
just like all, all full of holes
and follow, follow holes. 

1956
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:58,560
Jesus. 
Oh, it's a real shame. 

1957
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:00,400
There's a guy who's riding the 
pony. 

1958
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:03,400
Yeah, the pony is fucking 
mental, dude. 

1959
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,720
Like what the hell man? 
And that guy just gets someone 

1960
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:09,760
like a hunt and rifle from like 
like at least a mile away, 

1961
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:12,880
right? 
What the hell? 

1962
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:16,400
It's like absolutely in the 
cinema and he falls off his 

1963
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,400
fucking pony and the pony just 
stands there. 

1964
01:33:19,480 --> 01:33:21,240
My favourite 1 is the the guy in
the boat. 

1965
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:23,800
So there's the yeah, yeah, 
sorry, the horse just stands 

1966
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:27,120
there. 
It reminds me of the car bombing

1967
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:30,280
bit in Michael Clayton where 
he's just there looking at the 

1968
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:32,600
three horses and the car bomb 
goes from the background and 

1969
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:34,640
the, and the course has all run 
away totally. 

1970
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:37,560
But the boat, right. 
So there's the guy who's the guy

1971
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:40,520
who's on the lake. 
Is it the lake or is it like The

1972
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:41,960
Hobbit Inlet? 
It might be like at sea 

1973
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:45,360
actually, but he's like he's in 
a little rowboat anyway and he's

1974
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:47,000
fishing, but he's fishing with 
like dynamite. 

1975
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:51,080
So the but he's like there with 
like one of his, I guess he's 

1976
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:53,400
like mates or he's got like a 
bodyguard or something. 

1977
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:56,560
But but then the bodyguard just 
like punches in the face, lights

1978
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:59,280
a bunch of the dynamite and then
like jumps off the boat and 

1979
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:01,160
starts swimming away. 
And it's like, dude, you're 

1980
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:02,800
going to get fucked by that as 
well. 

1981
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:06,920
You're in the boat, you push him
off, you throw him in the 

1982
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:10,640
fucking water, and then you 
drive away in the boat while 

1983
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:12,920
while the dynamite does its 
work, it's like going back, like

1984
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:15,160
fight choreography and stuff. 
The scene and like the montage 

1985
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:17,440
from that Russian guy just runs 
up with those two dudes who got 

1986
01:34:17,440 --> 01:34:21,480
off the Vespa, braised them, and
then just like runs away super 

1987
01:34:21,480 --> 01:34:22,720
fast. 
Like he could have done a big 

1988
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:24,360
nut straight away from the 
camera look cool. 

1989
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:26,920
It's like whoever's right in 
these fight scenes doesn't know 

1990
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:32,160
how to finish them sometimes. 
Yeah, this is like classic thing

1991
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:36,200
of when the when the explosion 
happens with the the dynamite as

1992
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:38,040
well. 
Like they've clearly like filmed

1993
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:40,920
that separately and cut it in. 
So it's like the boats like for 

1994
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,000
like a split second. 
It's obviously there's no boat 

1995
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:44,800
there. 
So like it's, it's like the 

1996
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:46,680
boat, this guy on the boat and 
the next thing you see it's just

1997
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:49,120
the the water cleaning up. 
But there's no boat there and 

1998
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:50,920
there's no wreckage. 
It's just like a water explosion

1999
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:54,160
and then it cuts back and 
there's like wreckage and a guy 

2000
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:57,160
like floating head, like face 
down in the water kind of thing,

2001
01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:58,920
which is probably from the pool 
somewhere else. 

2002
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:02,040
Yeah. 
But yeah, that was wild. 

2003
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:05,000
God, it's a good 10. 
There's a fuck, sorry. 

2004
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:06,400
There's the guy. 
There's a guy playing darts. 

2005
01:35:06,480 --> 01:35:08,080
There's a guy like like in what?
Like what? 

2006
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:11,160
Must be like the Nepalese 
version, like Neapolitan version

2007
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:13,560
of like a fucking English pub. 
Yeah. 

2008
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:16,560
Like pipe. 
And that in itself is fucking 

2009
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:19,800
weird. 
Like we had like the musics like

2010
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:22,920
Dead Jazzy and Dad like, like 
cool and upbeat. 

2011
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:26,160
And then this guy just goes in. 
You get like the cut to like 

2012
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:29,440
he's got like brass knuckles on 
each hand and it's something we 

2013
01:35:29,440 --> 01:35:32,840
had like close up and like he 
flexes his knuckles and then 

2014
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:34,680
just it cuts to the guy like 
dad. 

2015
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:37,200
But it's like it'll be like 
really bloody and stuff, but 

2016
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:39,560
it's like we don't even got to 
see him get punched, man. 

2017
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:43,760
And but but but there's like all
the dots lying around his feet. 

2018
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:49,360
You only get 3 right to throw 
and it's like 17. 

2019
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:56,240
I counted them absolutely. 
I wonder, you know, how like, 

2020
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:59,200
when people see the room in the 
cinema and, and because there's 

2021
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:00,960
all those photo frames with 
pictures of spoons and then 

2022
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:03,360
people, like, throw plastic 
spoons at the screen, darts at 

2023
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:05,360
the screen. 
Yeah, That's so nuts, man. 

2024
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:09,000
Yeah, So those assassinations 
take place. 

2025
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:12,120
It's a bit like weird Jackie 
version of the end of, like, the

2026
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:14,520
Godfather, right? 
Gun Trover's received news of 

2027
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:15,880
all his lieutenants being 
killed. 

2028
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:20,960
And then he gets a phone call 
from Mario Ambrosini himself. 

2029
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:26,280
And he says you might want to go
down to the docks to your 

2030
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:30,760
boathouse because I've got I've 
got your friend Andre. 

2031
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:34,560
And he's like, what the fuck? 
And it's like really foggy and 

2032
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:36,760
it's really like closely shot. 
And there's the whole thing was 

2033
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:39,480
like driving there and he's like
skidding around the road and 

2034
01:36:39,480 --> 01:36:41,640
he's like, he's like speeding 
past the police and stuff. 

2035
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:43,560
It's actually a good fucking 
driving scene as well. 

2036
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:45,600
It's actually really well put 
together seeing this and it's 

2037
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:47,640
and it's good because it gives 
because it gives the scene the 

2038
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:49,120
depth that it needs because 
that's be honest. 

2039
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:52,320
He is totally in love with him 
and he's, he's like, don't like 

2040
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:55,040
find the man that he wants to 
take down, you know? 

2041
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:57,040
Yeah. 
So he gets there. 

2042
01:36:57,080 --> 01:37:00,200
And as he arrives, like a whole 
bunch of Ambushini's men are, 

2043
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:02,120
like, raising one of his, like, 
warehouses. 

2044
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:03,880
And there's like a big gunfight 
going on. 

2045
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:06,600
And his guys are, like, like, 
putting in a fight. 

2046
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:09,040
It's like overrun with, like, 
Ambushini's guys. 

2047
01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:13,200
And noticeably and very sadly, 
in the fight, Ice Pick Jew gets 

2048
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:16,160
shot on the face. 
And we have a whole thing where 

2049
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:18,480
he drops his Ice pick, which has
been inexplicably carrying 

2050
01:37:18,480 --> 01:37:21,400
around the whole movie. 
So all people get really upset 

2051
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:23,240
about that, the depth of Ice 
Pick Jew. 

2052
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:25,760
Yeah, I know, right. 
Really sad. 

2053
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:28,480
So, you know, if I can pull one 
out for I speak Joe, He's he's 

2054
01:37:28,480 --> 01:37:31,200
he's he's he's gone. 
And in the in the chaos of it 

2055
01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:36,520
all, we see like Andre, like 
yell out to, to, to to Guntrov. 

2056
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:39,840
He's like, he's like Guntrov and
he's like. 

2057
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:42,600
And then they they, they kind of
run off out the back of one of 

2058
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:45,680
the White Houses across like 
through the valley way and into 

2059
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:48,200
into like where the boathouse is
on a jetty. 

2060
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:52,880
They bust into the boathouse. 
And then Andre says, like, I'm 

2061
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:56,280
sorry, I'm sorry, Guntarov. 
And then shuts the door of the 

2062
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:59,280
boathouse, locking him inside. 
And then and you think, oh, fuck

2063
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:00,800
me, I can't believe it. 
He's actually finally betrayed 

2064
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:03,640
him. 
But then like a bunch of 

2065
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:07,720
Ambrosini's guys all lined up 
outside the boathouse with that 

2066
01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:10,520
guns and stuff. 
And then and then Ambrosini's 

2067
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:14,480
there and he says, no, Andre, 
it's me who is sorry. 

2068
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:17,720
And then he and then he points 
his own gun at Andre and he says

2069
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:20,960
like, join your friend. 
And then he makes him go into 

2070
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:24,040
the boat house as well. 
So Andre's just betrayed gun 

2071
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:25,480
trip. 
This has been a fucking awkward 

2072
01:38:25,480 --> 01:38:27,920
moment. 
About that, you know, I get 

2073
01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:29,320
sick. 
About what happened just a 

2074
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:33,160
second ago, you. 
Know some things fucking needs 

2075
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:38,120
most things happen stuff stuff 
goes down, you know, it's not 

2076
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:40,920
anything can happen day it's 
anything can. 

2077
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:41,920
Happen. 
Absolutely wild. 

2078
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:45,040
So yes, we get into the harbour 
boathouse. 

2079
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:48,960
What was that go up? 
That wasn't me. 

2080
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:53,080
Five years ago. 
It's just just that didn't 

2081
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:56,120
happen. 
That was some other guy that. 

2082
01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:58,720
Was. 
You're just confused. 

2083
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:03,720
Good, shut off. 
You're just confused. 

2084
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:06,080
This is so horny for me. 
It's fine. 

2085
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:09,080
I'm Andrea, old man. 
Love me. 

2086
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:11,960
So funny. 
So yeah, they get inside and 

2087
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:15,520
there's like now a lot of a lot 
of sexual tension inside the Boa

2088
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:19,600
house already is Katya who's 
been like tied up and Sophia, 

2089
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:21,360
who has also been tied up and I 
don't know what the fuck she's 

2090
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:23,760
doing there. 
Really unclear. 

2091
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:26,440
Like what's what else is going 
on as well as I should have 

2092
01:39:26,480 --> 01:39:28,880
mentioned earlier in the in the 
in the warehouse fight, the 

2093
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,440
police are there also shooting 
as well. 

2094
01:39:31,440 --> 01:39:33,720
And like also a bunch of gangs. 
So like it's just absolute 

2095
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:35,760
pandemonium. 
It's like a fucking like it's 

2096
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:38,360
like fucking the end of bugs in 
the loan with the fucking pie 

2097
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:40,000
shooting guns. 
It's just like, absolutely 

2098
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:41,840
fucking. 
Chaos. 

2099
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:44,080
It's just like. 
Really, really hard to pass. 

2100
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:47,320
They just threw a lot of extras 
at the situation really didn't 

2101
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:49,480
they? 
Like like I said this, this 

2102
01:39:49,480 --> 01:39:52,560
scene needs at least 20 more 
extras with various like rattle 

2103
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:55,880
submachine guns just to just to 
make things even noisier. 

2104
01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:58,320
Books and building came out 
after this as well. 

2105
01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:00,000
Yes. 
I'm just thinking, yeah, because

2106
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,360
it was the same year as Taxi 
Driver in 1970. 6 Is there 

2107
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:05,960
another maybe bit of influence? 
Probably not. 

2108
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:08,000
Probably, yeah. 
I love what you said. 

2109
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:10,440
Probably, probably not there, 
but I mean, hey, you know. 

2110
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:14,520
I'm think like all I'm saying is
Judy Foster is Tallulah. 

2111
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:17,280
Maybe you've taken a few things 
from from catcher. 

2112
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:22,000
Holy shit, man. 
In the boathouse, continuous. 

2113
01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:24,840
The interior is cramped. 
Fishing Nets, crates, fuel 

2114
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:28,160
drums, a motor boot bobbing in 
the water beneath a hatch in the

2115
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:33,360
the deck. 
Gontrov, Andrei and Catcher are 

2116
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:36,200
in there. 
There's rain started. 

2117
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:39,720
Rain starts hitting the roof and
catches listening catches like 

2118
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:44,760
I'm sorry Koncharov, they found 
me and and I look how. 

2119
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:47,600
Katya calls him by his surname 
by. 

2120
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:50,880
The way you know. 
Right, Mrs Katya Koncharova 

2121
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:54,320
calls Koncharov his fucking 
surname. 

2122
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:56,800
All the way through the movie as
well. 

2123
01:40:56,800 --> 01:40:58,440
Like, nobody calls him by his 
first name. 

2124
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:00,880
And just like, yes, no, they 
have thumbed us. 

2125
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:04,000
And then as that happens, a 
bunch of like, gunfire rips 

2126
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:06,240
through the wooden walls. 
The lamps swing around everyone 

2127
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:09,120
like jumps on the floor. 
People are trying to untie like 

2128
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:11,720
Catcher and Sofia. 
There's like a there's like 

2129
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:14,920
another guy in there, like 
another random dude who I think 

2130
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:17,160
his entire point for being in 
the scene is just so we can get 

2131
01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:19,520
shot here. 
Really funny. 

2132
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:23,040
There's like some cans and like 
and like barrels and stuff in 

2133
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:26,480
there as well. 
Right as that happens, the last 

2134
01:41:26,480 --> 01:41:30,120
remnants of Goncharov's loyal 
gang arrive. 

2135
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:33,120
They're on another boat and the 
boats coming into the boathouse 

2136
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:34,960
to pick him up. 
The bullets in there for some 

2137
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:36,840
reason isn't getting used. 
Don't quite understand why it's 

2138
01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:38,560
there, really. 
It's fucking mental stuff. 

2139
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:39,680
Like why couldn't just move 
that? 

2140
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:43,320
Anyway, that happens. 
Yeah, Andrea's going look the 

2141
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:46,600
back exit and Guntrov is like, I
go nowhere with you and punches 

2142
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:49,200
him in the face and and flies 
him out and he's like Catcher, 

2143
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:53,240
come with me. 
And and and Sophia Catcher's 

2144
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:56,520
like, no, I can't take the boat.
And Guntrov's like, no, he's 

2145
01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:58,680
like catcher, you came here to 
rule a city. 

2146
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:02,760
And she like gestures and goes. 
Cities require survivors. 

2147
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:06,880
Cities require survivors. 
And then Andrea, who's like on 

2148
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:08,840
the floor sparked. 
I was like, she's right. 

2149
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:12,160
And then then Sophia is like, 
what are you saying, Catcher? 

2150
01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:13,320
And she's like getting into the 
boat. 

2151
01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:15,120
She's like straight away I'm 
getting the fuck out of here. 

2152
01:42:17,480 --> 01:42:19,600
And then Catcher is like she 
starts kicking over like these 

2153
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:21,200
leaking fuel cans that have been
shot up. 

2154
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:24,200
Like he's hate these cans. 
He hates these cats. 

2155
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:27,880
Stay away from the cans, the 
liquids like so like obviously 

2156
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:30,160
like fuels, like pouring out 
over the floor inside this 

2157
01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:32,200
little wooden boat. 
And what she's going to do is 

2158
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:33,920
she's going to like create a 
diversion, I guess. 

2159
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:37,160
So like everyone else piles into
the boat and she's like Gunter 

2160
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:39,400
of I never told you about my 
father. 

2161
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:41,640
And it's like, what the fuck is 
she talking about? 

2162
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:43,640
Doesn't fucking matter because 
we're going to find out. 

2163
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:46,080
And she goes and she kisses on 
the face and goes go. 

2164
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:49,680
But there's no tenderness in the
kiss only only a bleak finality.

2165
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:54,480
Gunter of decides to pull Andre 
free from the boathouse and puts

2166
01:42:54,480 --> 01:42:58,800
his unconscious body or Vale his
body into the boat and the boat 

2167
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:01,680
sort of backs away. 
The door opens to the boathouse.

2168
01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:06,000
Catcher kicks it open, holding a
lighter in her hand, and she 

2169
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:08,400
goes, What'd she say? 
She goes. 

2170
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:10,560
I want to speak with Mario 
Ambrosini. 

2171
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:14,840
And then for the gunman, A 
henchman who probably should 

2172
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:16,160
have been. 
I speak Joe, but I speak Joe's 

2173
01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:17,440
dead. 
It goes. 

2174
01:43:17,480 --> 01:43:19,480
Mario isn't here. 
And it's like, well, there's no 

2175
01:43:19,480 --> 01:43:21,400
report between these people, so 
it's just a random guy. 

2176
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:23,080
It's a bit like the end of the 
room where that random guy is 

2177
01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:26,240
like, wait, like, what's this 
going to do to the friend group?

2178
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:27,960
And it's like, dude, you, you 
just arrived. 

2179
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:31,560
I feel like, I feel like I'm 
sitting on an atomic bomb. 

2180
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:33,680
Behind her, she's already set 
fire to it. 

2181
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:35,440
There's it was. 
It was all a fake outholding of 

2182
01:43:35,440 --> 01:43:38,200
the lights, because flames just 
lick up behind her. 

2183
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:41,360
Kind of cool, I think. 
It's very cool. 

2184
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:44,160
And she goes, tell Mario 
something for me. 

2185
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:47,480
Tell him, Gunture. 
I've never wanted Naples. 

2186
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:51,080
He just wanted to win. 
And then this guy's like, this 

2187
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:52,880
guy's like, you should step away
from that building. 

2188
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:56,880
Please, Madam. 
Please Madam, this is a Wendy's 

2189
01:43:58,480 --> 01:44:01,240
and she's like, I've spent my 
spent my entire life stepping 

2190
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:03,400
away. 
Not tonight. 

2191
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:06,880
And then she throws the Lysa 
into the and that's already 

2192
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:10,320
burning and for some reason that
causes it to explode in like a 

2193
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:13,640
massive conflagration and we get
like a split second of like what

2194
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:16,480
must have been like a Sybil 
shepherd shaped mannequin 

2195
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:19,480
explodes a bit like when you put
in like 1 of the cheats 

2196
01:44:19,480 --> 01:44:23,560
incorrectly in two really 2 like
just let us go everywhere and we

2197
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:26,760
sit for a split second really 
bad and that is catcher dead 

2198
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:28,720
real bad. 
But it continues. 

2199
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:30,960
Andrea's boat we see speeding 
away. 

2200
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:32,720
Andre control everybody in the 
boat. 

2201
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:37,200
Jontrov looks back, the harbour 
burning behind them, reflections

2202
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:40,000
rippling across the water. 
He says nothing, only looking at

2203
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:43,440
the unconscious body of of Andre
Fund to know. 

2204
01:44:43,480 --> 01:44:46,240
At this point, Sofia's driving 
the boat, which is fun. 

2205
01:44:46,480 --> 01:44:48,520
This polycule's out of control, 
man. 

2206
01:44:49,480 --> 01:44:51,240
Yeah. 
And then we come back to the 

2207
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:54,000
henchman who, again, should have
been Iceberg Joe, but it's not 

2208
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:55,560
Iceberg Joe. 
And he just looks at the 

2209
01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:58,280
wreckage and the chaos around 
him and goes, well, that's 

2210
01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:01,360
inconvenient. 
It's what a fucking lane. 

2211
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:03,280
Like. 
What the fuck is this for? 

2212
01:45:03,440 --> 01:45:04,640
Like where? 
Where did they get this guy 

2213
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:05,880
from? 
He's not from the Italian 

2214
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:07,240
National Football team, that's 
for sure. 

2215
01:45:08,480 --> 01:45:13,040
Yeah, absolutely nuts. 
So all that's left now is this 

2216
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:15,520
is right near the end of film. 
So as you say, Poliquel is in 

2217
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:16,080
disarray. 
The. 

2218
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:22,280
Poliquel is in disarray. 
Mr. President, the second 

2219
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:25,960
bombers hit the Poliquel, you 
know, like we got a final, we do

2220
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:28,800
get a little denouement sorry of
of Gene Hackerman. 

2221
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:33,640
So Gene Hackerman, Gene 
Hackman's police car pulls up to

2222
01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:36,440
the harbour, which is completely
on fire, along with like the 

2223
01:45:36,440 --> 01:45:39,240
fire service and stuff. 
He gets out of his car seems 

2224
01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:42,720
like the, the, the strews 
bodies, the bricks, everything 

2225
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:45,840
going, the smoke just pulls off 
his ushanka, throws up on the 

2226
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:48,760
ground and stamps on it. 
And that's the last time we see 

2227
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:53,520
him. 
It's crazy, it's crazy. 

2228
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:56,760
What even, what even part of the
force organisation chart of the 

2229
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:59,320
local police does he take up 
because he's got? 

2230
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:01,760
Because he's got. 
Like such like chief of police 

2231
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:04,560
energy and sub scenes. 
He's got such like detective 

2232
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:06,440
energy and some of us. 
And it's something just like he 

2233
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:08,560
he seems like an average 
patrolman, you know, except he's

2234
01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:11,640
in his fucking Moscow militia 
uniform or whatever it's meant 

2235
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:16,200
to be. 
So the final scene after that, 

2236
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:19,920
so we are left unclear as to the
face of Andre. 

2237
01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:22,240
Is he is he we don't see him 
again. 

2238
01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:25,840
For the final thing we get is 
under the clock tower. 

2239
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:29,240
There is a little chest table 
set up and Mario. 

2240
01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:31,800
And I don't know if this is like
fucking like the 7th seal kind 

2241
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:34,120
of vibes or something, or like 
like it's meant to be happening 

2242
01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:36,400
in the in the theatre of the 
mind or something, or it's like 

2243
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:41,280
metaphorical or something. 
But but both Pacino's and Nero 

2244
01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:45,920
long before he'd sit down at 
this this chess table to have 

2245
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:47,440
like their their big scene 
together. 

2246
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:53,080
And yeah, they're playing chess.
They're basically both saying 

2247
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:55,840
like, and now we are finally 
here. 

2248
01:46:55,840 --> 01:47:00,280
Our rebels have ended. 
We are, we are both kings 

2249
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:05,000
without kingdoms and and like, 
you know, gun trolls like 

2250
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:08,120
kingdoms fall. 
But I am a king without my 

2251
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:11,040
queen, but I still have my 
Prince and this kind of 

2252
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:13,880
bullshit. 
And it's like, well I'm happy 

2253
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:18,840
for you, but now I have nothing.
And then we pull out and we see 

2254
01:47:18,840 --> 01:47:22,120
both of them are whilst they are
playing chess with their like 

2255
01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:24,400
right hands, they are both 
pulling pistols with their left 

2256
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:27,000
hands and they both point them 
at each other. 

2257
01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:31,360
And then we hear a bang. 
But as the bang happens, the 

2258
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:35,800
camera pulls up to like the 
clock tower as it strikes like 

2259
01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:40,560
fucking like 6:00 in the morning
or something as the bang 

2260
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:43,160
happens. 
And then it just says contour of

2261
01:47:43,280 --> 01:47:46,320
and then, and then as the 
credits come up and it's like 

2262
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:48,720
1970s and like fucking 30 
seconds of credits. 

2263
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:54,120
The final thing we see is Sofia 
her like her feet walking up to 

2264
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:57,080
like through the through the the
wreckage of the of the harbour. 

2265
01:47:57,120 --> 01:48:00,720
And then she kneels down and we 
see her like approach what must 

2266
01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:03,040
be the disembodies arm of 
catcher. 

2267
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:05,600
But but frankly, we don't see 
it. 

2268
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:08,240
We just see her wrist and it's 
wearing like a little feminine 

2269
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:11,840
watch and then she and she turns
over the wrist to see the watch 

2270
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:15,920
and the watch the wrist is like 
is still ticking. 

2271
01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:20,120
It's like and then that's it. 
Fucking Finn Finito at the end. 

2272
01:48:20,360 --> 01:48:22,120
Incredible film. 
I'll tell you. 

2273
01:48:22,200 --> 01:48:23,880
I'll tell you. 
Insane, by the way. 

2274
01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:26,720
I don't. 
It didn't make a lot of sense to

2275
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:28,560
me, but like, what do you think?
I mean like Jesus. 

2276
01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:32,760
I enjoyed it. 
I enjoyed it. 

2277
01:48:33,480 --> 01:48:37,560
It set out what it wanted to do.
It also made loads of really 

2278
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:39,560
fucking weird decisions along 
the way. 

2279
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:44,560
In 2026. 
Hindsight, it is definitely an 

2280
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:49,600
incredibly gay film in which, 
like like I said, everyone's gay

2281
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:52,040
for each other in the film. 
And maybe that wasn't so 

2282
01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:54,480
noticeable in 1970 whatever when
it came out. 

2283
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:59,200
I mean, obviously Katya and and 
and Sophia very much, but it's 

2284
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:03,880
like, I think pretty much every 
male character that gone shut 

2285
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:06,200
off and count off and shut off 
like I gotta fuck this guy, you 

2286
01:49:07,440 --> 01:49:09,920
know, he's like good fucking 
God. 

2287
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:12,040
So. 
Oh shit, sorry, I forgot. 

2288
01:49:12,040 --> 01:49:13,040
Like I've got one thing. 
Sorry. 

2289
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:16,400
So it it pans up to the clock, 
gone shut off comes up as like 

2290
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:18,880
the title card pans back down 
again. 

2291
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:22,040
And it's like a bit ambiguity 
about like who shot who and 

2292
01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:25,360
who's alive and stuff. 
And like, if they survive a lot 

2293
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:27,600
because the last thing we see is
gone, shut off, still alive. 

2294
01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:30,840
He's lying on the on the on like
a cobbled streets. 

2295
01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:33,200
Then he then he fucking he 
spikes his camera and looks 

2296
01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:36,000
directly into the lens, breaks 
the 4th floor and says would 

2297
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:40,720
anyone save me? 
And then it cuts, Yeah, what the

2298
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:43,200
fuck is that man? 
It's so fucked up. 

2299
01:49:43,320 --> 01:49:46,320
Fever dream fever dream is is it
cutting back to his in a 

2300
01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:47,560
monologue? 
Is that as a glass? 

2301
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:49,280
Thoughts. 
As he's dying, he's really 

2302
01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:50,800
saying that it's abstract as 
hell. 

2303
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:53,600
Like the last the last like few 
minutes of the film at at MR's 

2304
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:56,280
art house territory in the last 
few few minutes of the film, 

2305
01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:58,240
which is fucking cool. 
It's bold. 

2306
01:50:35,440 --> 01:50:56,520
I. 
OK. 

2307
01:50:56,680 --> 01:50:59,480
We're back with the categories. 
Mike will lead us in on this one

2308
01:50:59,480 --> 01:51:03,200
or or would like me to. 
All right, we'll do the 

2309
01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:05,160
standard. 
So casting obviously this is a 

2310
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:07,680
stacked cast nowadays. 
This would be like an incredibly

2311
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:09,800
psyched cast in the 70s. 
It was like I guess up and 

2312
01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:12,400
counters people who were like 
making the scene, people who 

2313
01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:13,920
didn't just their first big 
moves. 

2314
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:17,080
So obviously De Niro is lost 
Toniero. 

2315
01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:20,600
He has Gunter of we've got Al 
Pacino as, as Marian Bruschini. 

2316
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:22,400
Obviously he's got a very story 
background as well. 

2317
01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:24,240
We know a lot about him. 
Harvey Ketel. 

2318
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:27,800
People will know, again, like we
mentioned earlier, like for like

2319
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:31,160
lots of films, Piano, The Bad 
Lieutenant, all that kind of 

2320
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:34,600
stuff. 
On top of that, we've got a Gene

2321
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:36,720
Hackman, who we've talked about 
a lot on this podcast, obviously

2322
01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:42,520
would be like Crimson Tide and 
No Way Out already, but also 

2323
01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:45,360
like the conversation. 
This is our third Hackman film 

2324
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:48,920
and this might be the most a 
character and and and act as a 

2325
01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:51,240
PR in episodes of clear and 
present dudes so far. 

2326
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:54,120
So Tom Cruise is on 4 at the 
minute. 

2327
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:55,320
Fuck. 
OK. 

2328
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:58,760
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I did the math on that the other

2329
01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:00,960
day. 
Yeah, he's up there, though. 

2330
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:05,920
John Casale, who died tragically
young, of course, was in The 

2331
01:52:05,920 --> 01:52:08,000
Godfather and the Godfather of 
Hot 2. 

2332
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:11,440
He's also in dogged the 
afternoon with with Al Pacino, 

2333
01:52:11,480 --> 01:52:12,680
so he's watching him a few Times
Now. 

2334
01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:17,800
Sybil Shepherd as Catcha 
Goncharova. 

2335
01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:21,280
She, like I mentioned earlier, 
The Last Picture Show based on 

2336
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:25,240
the Larry Mcmurtry novel, of 
course, moonlighting with with 

2337
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:28,120
Bruce Willis. 
And well, so she do. 

2338
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:30,360
She obviously had her own 
eponymous sitcom. 

2339
01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:33,160
Sybil, which is a character 
called Sybil Sheridan, who was 

2340
01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:34,760
basically just her, right? 
It was. 

2341
01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:36,720
Her, yeah, nice work if you can 
get it. 

2342
01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:39,360
If you get it, won't you tell me
how? 

2343
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:42,120
How? 
Yeah, with Christine Baranski. 

2344
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:44,440
What a great show. 
Yeah, that that's literally 

2345
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:47,200
Sophia's in a monologue when she
says that's like, if you get it,

2346
01:52:47,200 --> 01:52:49,720
won't you tell me how she's like
Mother? 

2347
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:51,840
May I? 
Sophia Loren probably doesn't 

2348
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:53,480
need any introduction, of 
course. 

2349
01:52:53,480 --> 01:52:57,680
Yeah, yeah, big, big title of 
American and Italian cinema. 

2350
01:52:58,040 --> 01:53:01,880
Yeah, against against whom? 
Cybill Shop out holds up really 

2351
01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:04,600
well in terms of acting chops. 
Like I said, I mean, it's like 

2352
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:08,160
it's fucking excellent. 
The film deserves more aplomb 

2353
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:10,880
from people. 
You know that the both dominate 

2354
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:12,560
the scene. 
The both dominate the screen and

2355
01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:14,280
a lot of the especially the 
tango scene. 

2356
01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:16,200
I've got some trivia. 
Have you got some trivia? 

2357
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:21,800
Yes, so it's this film has very 
little use of the Russian 

2358
01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:25,000
language, despite the fact that 
Scott Russian Russian coward has

2359
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:29,560
in it and some of the only 
Russian dialogue used in it is 

2360
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:32,360
actually used wrong. 
The pig farmer briefly speaks to

2361
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:38,120
his wife off camera and says 
what is subtitled as the men out

2362
01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:41,440
here about the pigs. 
But what he actually says is the

2363
01:53:41,440 --> 01:53:45,640
sheep out here about the pigs. 
And I mean, like, like I said, 

2364
01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:47,720
this is this is possible. 
I'm picking up things feel upon 

2365
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:50,680
Reddit, You know, Miles Riveri, 
I don't you know, comprehend, 

2366
01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:53,080
but shouldn't be of Russian. 
But that's that's a pretty 

2367
01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:55,600
fucking weird one. 
What kind of trivia have you 

2368
01:53:55,600 --> 01:53:58,280
guys dug up? 
I've got a few, that's class. 

2369
01:53:58,280 --> 01:54:01,440
Nero De Niro allegedly stayed in
character as Gunter Off for the 

2370
01:54:01,440 --> 01:54:03,480
entire shoot, refusing to 
respond to his real name. 

2371
01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:06,920
Crew members reports that he 
would only answer if he was 

2372
01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:11,720
addressed as Comrade Gunter Off.
Incredible. 

2373
01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:15,680
That's fucking amazing. 
That's so good man, I love it. 

2374
01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:20,680
The chess game between Mario and
Gunter of the second one I think

2375
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:23,680
uses a real historical opening. 
This is the Sicilian defence. 

2376
01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:26,560
Film scores have pointed out 
that the sequence of moves shows

2377
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:28,440
in the scene actually 
foreshadows the order of 

2378
01:54:28,440 --> 01:54:31,480
betrayals later in the film. 
Yeah, very fun. 

2379
01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:36,320
Speaking of chess games, when 
when when Al Pacino has his flip

2380
01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:38,480
out and he like knocks over 
those three chess tables in his 

2381
01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:41,240
house, he's actually he's 
actually winning all of those 

2382
01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:42,600
games. 
If like you look at it's been 

2383
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:45,040
intersected pretty hard and 
looks like he's in like a 

2384
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:46,760
winning position in all of those
games. 

2385
01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:49,720
Yet he's like flip out of anger.
And it's like, guess it's 

2386
01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:52,600
symbolic to show these people 
are destroying themselves mate. 

2387
01:54:53,960 --> 01:54:56,080
Very good, of course, right? 
The boathouse explosion used a 

2388
01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:58,120
real wooden structure that the 
production had permission to 

2389
01:54:58,120 --> 01:55:00,080
demolish. 
However, the explosion ended up 

2390
01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:03,640
being much larger than planned, 
destroying 2 nearby camera rigs 

2391
01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:06,320
and forcing the crew to stop 
filming for three whole days. 

2392
01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:09,160
Yeah, the clock tower scene in 
the final scene is the real 

2393
01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:12,040
Alberto di Poverty clock in 
Naples with the production 

2394
01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:14,560
altered its face to exaggerate 
the ticking sound I. 

2395
01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:18,160
Love that, it's incredible. 
That feels a weird way of saying

2396
01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:19,960
they've put some food on it. 
Yeah, there's some. 

2397
01:55:19,960 --> 01:55:23,240
There's some, there's some 
continuously stuff regarding 

2398
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:25,080
cigarette lens blah blah blah 
blah blah. 

2399
01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:28,840
Yeah, obviously the final line 
Would Anyone Save Me was 

2400
01:55:28,840 --> 01:55:30,760
controversial at the time 
because it breaks the 4th wall 

2401
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:34,680
blah blah blah blah. 
A lot of the music was recorded 

2402
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:38,560
live on set which caused issues 
on the centre thing, which is 

2403
01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:40,120
why there's a lot of ADR 
dialogue. 

2404
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:43,120
Fucking shows as well, like the 
the fact that the recorder live,

2405
01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:45,520
especially the nightclub scenes 
with the Charles band and that 

2406
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:47,720
which is a really cool thing, 
but it could have been recorded 

2407
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:48,800
better. 
You know, they could have gone 

2408
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:52,240
the whole like Michael Mann, 
fucking real veracity kind of 

2409
01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:54,640
thing and just. 
Yeah, the film's production 

2410
01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:57,800
schedule ran almost two weeks 
behind due to frequent arguments

2411
01:55:57,800 --> 01:55:59,960
between director and 
cinematographer. 

2412
01:55:59,960 --> 01:56:02,880
Cinematographer This film, by 
the way, is Michael Chapman, 

2413
01:56:03,240 --> 01:56:06,280
director of photography, who 
also went on to do Taxi Driver. 

2414
01:56:06,280 --> 01:56:08,920
So depends why it's a funny 
looking film. 

2415
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:10,440
Yeah. 
Yeah, so sorry. 

2416
01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:12,640
And then, and then I mentioned 
it early on. 

2417
01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:14,880
So Albertino was obviously 
shooting specifically at the 

2418
01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:16,880
same time as this. 
So he was flying backwards 

2419
01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:19,760
forwards to New York and Naples,
which is obviously a very big 

2420
01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:23,360
undertaking into the 1970s. 
So one of the bits that they had

2421
01:56:23,360 --> 01:56:26,400
to do was they had to reshoot 
one of the chess scenes by 

2422
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:30,480
filming his takes and coverage 
in New York, while De Niro's 

2423
01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:32,720
coverage was all filmed in 
Naples. 

2424
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:34,360
Really random. 
Yeah, excellent stuff. 

2425
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:38,040
And then finally, we didn't even
talk about this. 

2426
01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:40,720
So Inspector Michelov's habit of
drinking terrible vending 

2427
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:42,520
machine coffee was invented by 
Gene Hackman. 

2428
01:56:42,640 --> 01:56:45,440
Hackman during rehearsals and 
became a running gag for the 

2429
01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:46,520
film. 
I don't know if it's a running 

2430
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:47,880
gag. 
We seem to do it like maybe 

2431
01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:50,280
twice. 
It happens three times. 

2432
01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:51,720
There's once at the train 
station. 

2433
01:56:52,160 --> 01:56:55,080
There's once, bizarrely, just 
down the street from a cafe when

2434
01:56:55,080 --> 01:56:57,560
he goes to a vending machine. 
It's just there and it's like 

2435
01:56:57,560 --> 01:57:00,320
there's a cafe in Italy right 
there. 

2436
01:57:01,040 --> 01:57:04,320
And, and, and the third one, the
third one, it's when it's, it's 

2437
01:57:04,440 --> 01:57:05,680
when he's in the police station,
right? 

2438
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:08,760
And, and, and again, that's a 
stupid fucking scene because he 

2439
01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:10,920
goes to the vending machine and 
he gets the coffee out and he's 

2440
01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:13,120
just like, and there's always 
like cops hanging around who, 

2441
01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:15,240
who just look like they don't 
even like the man. 

2442
01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:18,320
And it's like, oh man, I think 
that again, he sticks up the 

2443
01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:19,840
soul film. 
He's wearing fucking Shankar 

2444
01:57:19,840 --> 01:57:23,160
indoors. 
It's like, what even is this 

2445
01:57:23,320 --> 01:57:25,280
film? 
Very, very silly. 

2446
01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:26,880
Well, it seems like we've filmed
without permits. 

2447
01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:29,600
So you know what I mentioned the
train station shootout. 

2448
01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:31,720
Yeah, that was that was done 
gonzo style. 

2449
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:34,400
But then one of the extras is, I
think it's like an old lady 

2450
01:57:34,400 --> 01:57:36,920
carrying a dog. 
Like she spikes the camera doing

2451
01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:38,680
it and they have to leave it in 
because that's the only the only

2452
01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:40,720
opportunity I had to film it. 
Definitely get another rewatch 

2453
01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:42,280
tonight and to see if that's the
case. 

2454
01:57:42,280 --> 01:57:44,640
Bloody. 
Yeah, about wild. 

2455
01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:50,720
Would you like to hear camera? 
Would would you like to hear 

2456
01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:53,760
some of the the conspiracy 
theories about this film? 

2457
01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:56,920
Yes, please, more than anything.
So so some of the conspiracy 

2458
01:57:56,920 --> 01:57:59,800
theories about what it means I 
should say so one the clock 

2459
01:57:59,800 --> 01:58:02,560
theory, the film is actually 
about the Soviet collapse. 

2460
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:05,200
Some theories argue that 
Ghuntrov is secretly about the 

2461
01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:08,040
inevitable collapse of the 
Soviet Union repeats his clock 

2462
01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:09,360
imagery. 
The fact that Ghuntrov is a 

2463
01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:11,560
Russian criminal trying to build
power at a foreign land, and 

2464
01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:14,520
that every alliance in the film 
eventually collapses all 

2465
01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:16,360
indicate this. 
The argument is that the film 

2466
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:19,240
predicts that systems built on 
fear and loyalty eventually 

2467
01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:21,400
collapse into the and weight, 
which means control of a 

2468
01:58:21,400 --> 01:58:24,040
metaphor for the Soviet system. 
Obviously, the big problem with 

2469
01:58:24,040 --> 01:58:25,840
this the film that came out in 
1973. 

2470
01:58:25,840 --> 01:58:29,280
When the Soviets were still 
looking like they were arguing 

2471
01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:32,520
from a place of fucking relative
authority and relative power. 

2472
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:36,200
And yeah, yeah, I'm not sure 
actually abide with that theory.

2473
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:39,760
Yeah, I've mentioned the ice 
pick as a Trotsky reference 

2474
01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:42,360
theory. 
Yeah, the chess games reveal the

2475
01:58:42,360 --> 01:58:43,600
ending. 
I mentioned that already kind of

2476
01:58:43,600 --> 01:58:46,560
in the trivia, but there's an 
idea of the setups of the chess 

2477
01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:49,320
games indicate like where the 
story is going, both kings are 

2478
01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:51,800
doomed, need excite, can escape 
defeat, blah blah blah blah 

2479
01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:55,320
blah. 
Chat is the real protagonist. 

2480
01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:56,560
This one I think holds a little 
bit away. 

2481
01:58:57,880 --> 01:59:00,560
So 1 theory claims that the film
is secretly told from catcher's 

2482
01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:02,640
perspective, even though Gunter 
of appears to be the lead. 

2483
01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:06,000
So she appears in a lot of 
scenes where key decisions are 

2484
01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:07,440
made. 
She obviously has that scene 

2485
01:59:07,440 --> 01:59:11,120
with I, I speak Joe, which is 
obviously like a big movement 

2486
01:59:11,120 --> 01:59:12,280
for her. 
She has the whole story with 

2487
01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:14,160
Sofia. 
She has a bit of agency. 

2488
01:59:14,160 --> 01:59:17,640
Basically her sacrifice resolves
the emotional arc of the film 

2489
01:59:18,040 --> 01:59:20,640
because like otherwise, there's 
just two blokes doing stuff and 

2490
01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:23,400
Gunter of his story collapses 
immediately after her death. 

2491
01:59:23,400 --> 01:59:25,400
She dies and then he pretty much
gets shot straight away. 

2492
01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:27,920
So. 
So the movies what catch you 

2493
01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:30,600
realising she cannot escape the 
world that she helped to create 

2494
01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:32,560
is what some people say online. 
Yeah. 

2495
01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:35,360
What do you think? 
I would agree with that. 

2496
01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:39,840
Definitely open interpretation. 
But she can't escape. 

2497
01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:42,240
But just trying to escape the 
world should create, consume, 

2498
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:43,600
consume. 
Really interesting stuff. 

2499
01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:45,360
Yeah, really interesting. 
So they're the so they're the 

2500
01:59:45,360 --> 01:59:46,760
normal ones. 
Do you want to hear the fucking 

2501
01:59:46,760 --> 01:59:48,120
bonkers ones? 
God, yes. 

2502
01:59:48,880 --> 01:59:51,560
Right, Mario and Gontrov are the
same person. 

2503
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:54,960
Whoa. 
The the The Fight Club 

2504
01:59:55,760 --> 01:59:56,640
conspiracy. 
Theory. 

2505
01:59:56,680 --> 01:59:59,680
No way, man. 
A particularly strange theory 

2506
01:59:59,680 --> 02:00:02,000
suggests that Mario and Gunture 
will represent two sides of the 

2507
02:00:02,000 --> 02:00:04,040
same character. 
The evidence, they say, is that 

2508
02:00:04,480 --> 02:00:07,040
they rarely appear together 
early in the film, apart from 

2509
02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:10,800
like in the the casino nightclub
and when they're playing chess. 

2510
02:00:10,920 --> 02:00:13,360
So they say that the the chess 
playing doesn't count because 

2511
02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:15,280
it's him talking to himself and 
it's happening on a different, 

2512
02:00:15,280 --> 02:00:17,120
like, mental plane. 
That's what they positive. 

2513
02:00:17,320 --> 02:00:20,720
Mind palace it all. 
It all comes down the Neil Breen

2514
02:00:20,720 --> 02:00:22,760
fucking black bin bag Goon cave 
again. 

2515
02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:25,320
Yeah. 
Oh, that's, yeah, that's what 

2516
02:00:25,320 --> 02:00:28,840
this is. 
So like they they both dialogue 

2517
02:00:28,840 --> 02:00:30,080
style. 
They both kind of talk. 

2518
02:00:31,160 --> 02:00:32,600
Yeah. 
Basically, yeah. 

2519
02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:35,240
So this is interpretation of the
film is that the the is a 

2520
02:00:35,240 --> 02:00:38,120
psychological allegory about how
power destroys itself is 

2521
02:00:38,120 --> 02:00:40,240
basically what they're saying. 
So like, it's yeah, it's a 

2522
02:00:40,240 --> 02:00:40,920
fight. 
It's Fight Club. 

2523
02:00:40,920 --> 02:00:42,880
Fight Club in those 70s. 
Yeah. 

2524
02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:47,000
So that was weird. 
And then here's some crazy ones,

2525
02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:48,880
right. 
One the Manhattan Project 

2526
02:00:48,880 --> 02:00:51,720
theory. 
So there's a claim that 

2527
02:00:51,720 --> 02:00:54,320
Gancharov is secretly about the 
birth of the atomic bomb. 

2528
02:00:54,640 --> 02:00:58,760
So the boat, the boathouse 
explosion explosion is is meant 

2529
02:00:58,760 --> 02:01:01,400
to be representative of the 
Trinity test. 

2530
02:01:01,680 --> 02:01:04,160
Jesus fucking Christ. 
Throughout the the film, 

2531
02:01:04,160 --> 02:01:06,880
characters are repeatedly 
referenced time running out, 

2532
02:01:06,880 --> 02:01:09,520
which is meant to be like a new 
on the fact that they had a 

2533
02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:13,080
ticking time to to to achieve 
obviously building atomic bomb 

2534
02:01:13,080 --> 02:01:15,880
in order to end the Second World
War and Gancharov's empire 

2535
02:01:15,880 --> 02:01:18,320
collapses after a single Castro 
event, which is meant to be like

2536
02:01:18,320 --> 02:01:20,840
this is a treaty test here for 
the for the boathouse is also 

2537
02:01:20,840 --> 02:01:23,200
kind of meant to be like the I 
guess for Russian. 

2538
02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:25,640
So it's really random, but it 
took 2. 

2539
02:01:25,640 --> 02:01:28,200
Catastrophic, catastrophic 
events to stop the Japanese 

2540
02:01:28,200 --> 02:01:29,320
Empire. 
Not one. 

2541
02:01:29,960 --> 02:01:31,120
Obviously, obviously I guess 
like as well. 

2542
02:01:31,120 --> 02:01:33,120
Yeah. 
So under this reading, gunshot 

2543
02:01:33,120 --> 02:01:35,760
is meant to be Oppenheimer, 
Mario is meant to be like 

2544
02:01:35,760 --> 02:01:39,240
representative of the US 
military establishment. 

2545
02:01:39,240 --> 02:01:43,120
And then and then Catcher is 
meant to be like the moral sort 

2546
02:01:43,120 --> 02:01:45,640
of stakes of the scientists. 
So if you like put this into 

2547
02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:48,840
Oppenheimer, the movie terms 
like Catcher is a bit like 

2548
02:01:48,840 --> 02:01:50,960
Oppenheimer after he dropped the
bomb and he's he's being wingy 

2549
02:01:50,960 --> 02:01:52,680
about it. 
And Mario's meant to be like 

2550
02:01:52,960 --> 02:01:54,600
Harry Truman, just laughing off 
and calling. 

2551
02:01:54,720 --> 02:01:57,400
Him pussy. 
Pussy a pussy ass bitch, Yeah. 

2552
02:01:58,560 --> 02:02:01,320
Get get this bitch ass mowed out
of my office. 

2553
02:02:03,080 --> 02:02:07,040
There is another theory, which 
is that this film is referencing

2554
02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:09,920
the moon landing. 
So, so I didn't mention it 

2555
02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:14,080
earlier, but in the violin 
scene, the the cafe that they're

2556
02:02:14,080 --> 02:02:17,880
at has a sign inside the cafe 
but visible through the window, 

2557
02:02:18,080 --> 02:02:21,600
like a neon sign that partially 
spells a polo bar. 

2558
02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:25,800
But you can only see like the 
Apollo could be like a full 

2559
02:02:25,800 --> 02:02:27,000
word, could be Apolonia could be
anything. 

2560
02:02:27,200 --> 02:02:29,000
But they even get to a polo bar,
right? 

2561
02:02:29,680 --> 02:02:32,680
The final duel takes place in an
empty harbour which is meant to 

2562
02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:35,280
and after it's destroyed is 
meant to represent the noodle 

2563
02:02:35,280 --> 02:02:36,480
landscape. 
Because there's lots of like 

2564
02:02:36,640 --> 02:02:40,560
broken concrete everywhere. 
I don't really agree with that. 

2565
02:02:41,960 --> 02:02:43,600
Stretch. 
Reach. 

2566
02:02:43,600 --> 02:02:45,720
Oh, it's a big reach. 
I've got a bigger. 

2567
02:02:45,720 --> 02:02:49,000
I've got a bigger 1. 
So Guncharov's grey overcoat 

2568
02:02:49,280 --> 02:02:52,000
that he wears in several pivotal
scenes of the film is supposed 

2569
02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:54,960
to resemble an astronaut's suit 
Fucking. 

2570
02:02:54,960 --> 02:02:58,200
But it's just fucking it's. 
Yeah, those those guys around 

2571
02:02:58,200 --> 02:03:00,440
for wearing overcoats over fuck 
off. 

2572
02:03:00,440 --> 02:03:03,240
Too much, too much. 
But I will say respect. 

2573
02:03:03,240 --> 02:03:05,480
The big gum sheds out there too 
much, too much. 

2574
02:03:05,480 --> 02:03:06,920
Stop them. 
The only, the only thing that 

2575
02:03:06,920 --> 02:03:08,640
the only thing that I kind of 
half take on this is that they 

2576
02:03:08,640 --> 02:03:11,000
say the clock motif is meant to 
represent the space race. 

2577
02:03:11,520 --> 02:03:13,680
Yeah, I can. 
I mean, it was quite heated. 

2578
02:03:13,680 --> 02:03:16,320
So it was quite heated between 
the US and Soviet Union at that 

2579
02:03:16,320 --> 02:03:19,840
point. 
You know, I've got my usual bit 

2580
02:03:19,840 --> 02:03:21,600
on weapons free, weapons free, 
my friend. 

2581
02:03:21,600 --> 02:03:24,240
When I talk about the film's 
weapons handling, it's it's 

2582
02:03:24,240 --> 02:03:27,120
armoring, all those other things
that I can be brief for this one

2583
02:03:27,120 --> 02:03:29,400
because it's not an especially 
gun heavy film, but didn't do 

2584
02:03:29,400 --> 02:03:32,000
much to piss me off. 
It gets significant amount of a 

2585
02:03:32,040 --> 02:03:34,920
right actually, which I think 
speaks to having a good kind of 

2586
02:03:34,920 --> 02:03:38,520
global logistical, like kind of 
support for armaments and stuff.

2587
02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:43,600
The primary weapon of Kinsharov,
funny enough, is a is, as I 

2588
02:03:43,600 --> 02:03:48,920
said, it's the Beretta 948. 
It's the ethical to do long 

2589
02:03:48,920 --> 02:03:51,520
rifle calibre semi automatic, 
which I think is pretty fucking 

2590
02:03:51,520 --> 02:03:54,080
cool. 
Katya is more traditional to to,

2591
02:03:54,280 --> 02:04:00,320
to Russian standards and has a 
Nagant revolver, the 1897. 

2592
02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:03,560
Is that right? 
I'm just double checking the 

2593
02:04:03,560 --> 02:04:04,880
notes here. 
Yeah. 

2594
02:04:04,880 --> 02:04:07,720
So she's packing the Nagant 
1895. 

2595
02:04:07,720 --> 02:04:10,600
But the submachine guns used by 
the guys who might or may not be

2596
02:04:10,600 --> 02:04:14,880
part of the Italian National 
Football team are the Beretta 

2597
02:04:14,880 --> 02:04:19,080
M12, which was sort of a kind of
recently designed weapon at the 

2598
02:04:19,080 --> 02:04:21,040
time. 
And that was, well, night, like 

2599
02:04:21,040 --> 02:04:24,080
late, late, late 50s. 
So that's like the closest to a 

2600
02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:26,680
future weapon you've got. 
There are a few scenes in which 

2601
02:04:27,840 --> 02:04:30,800
Good Sharov holds the iconic 
Thompson gun that he has in the 

2602
02:04:30,800 --> 02:04:32,560
poster. 
In every scene is holding the 

2603
02:04:32,560 --> 02:04:35,480
Thompson gun, including scenes 
when he's just immediately being

2604
02:04:35,480 --> 02:04:38,480
firing at safety selector is 
unsafe. 

2605
02:04:38,480 --> 02:04:40,880
And that's a reference to the 
fact that I'm a fucking artist 

2606
02:04:40,880 --> 02:04:43,280
and pause films constantly 
attract details. 

2607
02:04:45,560 --> 02:04:48,200
There we go. 
Does this film pass the VHS in 

2608
02:04:48,200 --> 02:04:50,160
the mess test? 
What this film do good on 

2609
02:04:50,160 --> 02:04:55,080
constant rotation on VHS, DVD, 
Blu-ray or laser disc player in 

2610
02:04:55,080 --> 02:05:00,760
the mess, wardroom or whatever 
of a military vessel or base. 

2611
02:05:01,320 --> 02:05:05,200
I've got to say, in my humble 
opinion, no, basically it's a 

2612
02:05:05,200 --> 02:05:06,680
good movie. 
Don't be wrong. 

2613
02:05:07,360 --> 02:05:10,320
It's in the same way that like 
Taxi Driver wouldn't work on 

2614
02:05:10,320 --> 02:05:12,280
repeating the mess. 
Like nobody wants to see that 

2615
02:05:12,280 --> 02:05:14,440
stuff. 
Like it's, it's a bit messy. 

2616
02:05:14,440 --> 02:05:17,560
It's a bit like oh, and 
difficult to get into. 

2617
02:05:18,880 --> 02:05:20,880
It's confusing as fuck to watch.
Obviously we've just talked 

2618
02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:22,400
about some of the mental things 
that come out of it. 

2619
02:05:22,680 --> 02:05:24,760
People aren't going to enjoy 
that. 

2620
02:05:24,760 --> 02:05:27,760
It's not like a simple thing you
can put on and like they're joke

2621
02:05:27,760 --> 02:05:29,520
too after you've after. 
You've come out. 

2622
02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:32,240
For a long day, you've got to 
like, you've got like meet on 

2623
02:05:32,240 --> 02:05:35,440
its level and its level is 
pretty hard to get to. 

2624
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:40,400
So yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Sonia, if someone put this on on

2625
02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:43,080
a ship that you were on, what 
would your reaction be? 

2626
02:05:43,120 --> 02:05:45,640
If this gets put on in your 
wardroom or whatever, your mess?

2627
02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:47,320
Oh God, please no. 
Probably. 

2628
02:05:49,360 --> 02:05:51,520
Stop it. 
Stop it basically. 

2629
02:05:52,760 --> 02:05:55,640
The last thing I want to do 
after a particularly on fun 

2630
02:05:55,640 --> 02:05:59,360
watch is go to the through the 
wardroom and and see a film that

2631
02:05:59,360 --> 02:06:04,280
has Harvard screen time 
dedicated to clicking top and 

2632
02:06:04,280 --> 02:06:05,880
ticking. 
Clocks as like. 

2633
02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:13,320
No fucking mental, yeah. 
Man, but yeah, also also like 

2634
02:06:13,360 --> 02:06:18,400
that bike set and and you've we,
we've compared it to two art 

2635
02:06:18,400 --> 02:06:23,200
host films before and that's not
something you do to to chill out

2636
02:06:23,200 --> 02:06:26,320
and relax. 
Yeah, I I would agree. 

2637
02:06:26,600 --> 02:06:29,400
I think the only bit of it is 
going to get regular play is 

2638
02:06:29,400 --> 02:06:32,560
sorry, but the tango scene might
get repeated a bit because it is

2639
02:06:32,560 --> 02:06:34,440
like a but let's face it, it's 
through US. 

2640
02:06:35,240 --> 02:06:38,840
It is an entrancing scene. 
Quotes, quotes from the film. 

2641
02:06:39,160 --> 02:06:41,200
There's so many that Meg's 
already gone over. 

2642
02:06:41,200 --> 02:06:43,960
I think let's just recap the 
amazing ones. 

2643
02:06:45,200 --> 02:06:47,560
Cities fall as a bar. 
Yeah, man. 

2644
02:06:47,560 --> 02:06:48,600
Oh, let me find my quotes. 
Hang on. 

2645
02:06:48,720 --> 02:06:50,920
Gotta get on the old I am 
Dubber. 

2646
02:06:51,000 --> 02:06:55,000
So we've got the bridge scene. 
Catch a confronting Gunter off. 

2647
02:06:55,160 --> 02:06:57,240
Of course we're in love. 
That's why I tried to shoot you 

2648
02:06:57,880 --> 02:06:59,960
and then Gunter off Replies. 
If we were really in love, you 

2649
02:06:59,960 --> 02:07:02,080
wouldn't have missed. 
Highly nonsensical. 

2650
02:07:04,880 --> 02:07:06,520
It's what else we've got. 
We've got a. 

2651
02:07:07,000 --> 02:07:09,000
Giving Mr and Missus Smith. 
That actually. 

2652
02:07:09,000 --> 02:07:12,480
Is Mr Mrs. Smith. 
It actually is. 

2653
02:07:12,480 --> 02:07:13,800
That's fucking brilliant. 
I love it. 

2654
02:07:14,280 --> 02:07:19,360
You've got a God from Mario. 
Sacrifices is queen in the first

2655
02:07:19,360 --> 02:07:22,120
chess match. 
Control says you play recklessly

2656
02:07:22,320 --> 02:07:26,000
and Mario says no. 
I play for the ending OK. 

2657
02:07:26,520 --> 02:07:28,440
Absolute bar. 
Doesn't make much sense. 

2658
02:07:28,440 --> 02:07:30,880
Catch it to Sofia. 
Yeah, catch it to Sofia. 

2659
02:07:30,880 --> 02:07:33,000
When they find your body, Sofia,
there will be flowers growing 

2660
02:07:33,000 --> 02:07:34,560
through your bones. 
Very cool. 

2661
02:07:34,560 --> 02:07:37,880
Yeah, that's that's like that. 
That for me is the line of the 

2662
02:07:37,880 --> 02:07:38,880
film. 
That's the MVP. 

2663
02:07:38,880 --> 02:07:41,080
That's the fucking go at that. 
That was like, legitimately, 

2664
02:07:41,160 --> 02:07:43,680
that was legitimately a 
beautiful line in a film that's 

2665
02:07:43,680 --> 02:07:47,400
often really confusing, very 
stupid and occasionally 

2666
02:07:47,400 --> 02:07:50,400
brilliant, which is why I think 
it's so compelling that people 

2667
02:07:50,400 --> 02:07:53,280
in such a cult classic, and it's
why Criterion, thankfully, is 

2668
02:07:53,280 --> 02:07:55,000
finally picking up and putting 
it out there, you know? 

2669
02:07:56,000 --> 02:07:59,080
Indeed, got I speak Joe and his 
final scene. 

2670
02:07:59,080 --> 02:08:01,600
The past cannot be unfrozen. 
You can only chip away at it. 

2671
02:08:02,160 --> 02:08:04,320
Frozen chip. 
Yeah. 

2672
02:08:05,200 --> 02:08:08,520
Subtext. 
Yeah, I know, right? 

2673
02:08:08,520 --> 02:08:10,920
And then finally we've got 
Gunter of, during this 

2674
02:08:10,920 --> 02:08:14,000
confession scene, the priest. 
I've killed men who have trusted

2675
02:08:14,000 --> 02:08:15,680
me. 
And the priest says then you 

2676
02:08:15,680 --> 02:08:18,400
know what must happen next. 
Fucking threatening. 

2677
02:08:18,480 --> 02:08:21,000
Threatening priest. 
Threatening priest man, Italy, 

2678
02:08:21,000 --> 02:08:22,520
everyone. 
Very frightening man with the 

2679
02:08:22,520 --> 02:08:25,080
cloth. 
Everyone's got a fucking Beretta

2680
02:08:25,080 --> 02:08:26,640
in the back pocket, even the 
even. 

2681
02:08:26,680 --> 02:08:30,520
Even the priests, man. 
Indeed, we talked about some of 

2682
02:08:30,520 --> 02:08:31,680
the critical reception of this 
film. 

2683
02:08:31,680 --> 02:08:34,600
Yeah, I've got some. 
So I've got some Pinnacle. 

2684
02:08:34,600 --> 02:08:37,000
We know it's you've got, you've 
got some pretty good reviews as 

2685
02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:39,400
well, don't you? 
Yeah, so I want to I want to 

2686
02:08:39,400 --> 02:08:41,280
talk about. 
So obviously this is like peak 

2687
02:08:41,840 --> 02:08:47,520
Rodger Ebert and Siskel and 
Pauline Kael era sort of stuff. 

2688
02:08:47,560 --> 02:08:50,000
The Rodger Ebert's review, I'm 
going to read Rodriguez, the 

2689
02:08:50,000 --> 02:08:51,400
basin. 
It's not all of it, just a 

2690
02:08:51,400 --> 02:08:53,960
section. 
I attended the screening with 

2691
02:08:53,960 --> 02:08:56,320
two peers. 
One thought Gunter of to be much

2692
02:08:56,320 --> 02:09:00,000
like his unwindable pocket 
watch, temporarily suspended by 

2693
02:09:00,000 --> 02:09:02,680
the pain of exile in all matters
and especially sex. 

2694
02:09:03,120 --> 02:09:05,600
The other believes, more simply 
that Gunter Off was asexual. 

2695
02:09:05,840 --> 02:09:08,880
My own view in the matter is 
that a man who can conduct a 

2696
02:09:08,880 --> 02:09:12,160
business meeting with a full 
faculty of mind and indeed even 

2697
02:09:12,160 --> 02:09:15,400
faint boredom, while Sophia 
Loren places a cigarette in his 

2698
02:09:15,400 --> 02:09:18,520
wife's mouth but contrives a 
half dozen reasons to meet with 

2699
02:09:18,520 --> 02:09:20,960
a man who's obviously been 
assigned to kill him, cooks that

2700
02:09:20,960 --> 02:09:24,000
man Pastor, pass that man to 
sing for him, and then permits 

2701
02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:27,400
that man to stab him as a 
committed, if a successful, 

2702
02:09:27,400 --> 02:09:29,360
homosexual. 
So they were talking about the 

2703
02:09:29,360 --> 02:09:32,280
pastor. 
Yeah, I know, right. 

2704
02:09:32,320 --> 02:09:33,640
Yeah, that's all. 
And obviously the stabbing in 

2705
02:09:33,640 --> 02:09:36,120
the in the boathouse, which 
would be like skirts past. 

2706
02:09:36,920 --> 02:09:40,400
In any case, Gunture of sexual 
ambiguity is the point is one of

2707
02:09:40,400 --> 02:09:42,880
the many clockwork gears sitting
beneath the movie's face, all 

2708
02:09:42,880 --> 02:09:45,320
working in a concert to cast 
doubt upon the viewers. 

2709
02:09:45,320 --> 02:09:46,960
Evidence. 
Who is Gunture of? 

2710
02:09:47,200 --> 02:09:49,880
What does he believe? 
What does he really desire? 

2711
02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:53,120
One has a sense that Gunture of 
was almost glad to die rather 

2712
02:09:53,120 --> 02:09:55,840
than learn the answer. 
And that's from his four-star 

2713
02:09:55,840 --> 02:09:58,280
review in the Chicago Tribune. 
Fucking amazing. 

2714
02:09:58,800 --> 02:10:00,640
Incredible great. 
That's so good. 

2715
02:10:00,800 --> 02:10:02,680
But he's he's a big fan of mean 
streets as well. 

2716
02:10:02,680 --> 02:10:03,760
So then that kind of. 
Tracks, yeah. 

2717
02:10:03,960 --> 02:10:06,760
Does track, yeah. 
Anyway, hit me up with these 

2718
02:10:06,760 --> 02:10:10,800
dudes from the peanut gallery. 
OK, right half of three star 

2719
02:10:10,800 --> 02:10:16,760
review from someone called 
horoscopes Gumtrov 1973 directed

2720
02:10:16,760 --> 02:10:20,240
Martin Scorsese might be a mafia
movie The Sigma male film Bros. 

2721
02:10:20,520 --> 02:10:23,880
But to me she is like if a 
traumatised Russian mercenary 

2722
02:10:23,880 --> 02:10:27,040
who dreams of a quiet house on a
hill but cannot escape the blood

2723
02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:30,160
on his hands. 
Was my girl mutual number one 

2724
02:10:30,160 --> 02:10:31,560
baby. 
This makes up for all of the 

2725
02:10:31,560 --> 02:10:36,800
night in 74 Oscar snobs says 
says Crash Course 201. 

2726
02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:40,520
I think the reason so many film 
Bros hate Ganshirov is because 

2727
02:10:40,520 --> 02:10:42,920
Katya actually got fleshed out 
was a character as opposed to 

2728
02:10:42,920 --> 02:10:45,880
like both of the Scorsese women.
I mean it wasn't perfect and 

2729
02:10:45,880 --> 02:10:49,120
there was select the infamous 
beer bottle scene but like Cybil

2730
02:10:49,120 --> 02:10:52,640
Shepherd lived, gave cunt and 
then faked her death but nobody 

2731
02:10:52,640 --> 02:10:55,320
ever talks about it. 
It has five days at the end of 

2732
02:10:55,320 --> 02:10:56,720
it. 
I did not pick up the idea that 

2733
02:10:56,720 --> 02:11:00,000
she faked the death. 
It looks like it looks pretty 

2734
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:02,960
final. 
It does look, look, look final, 

2735
02:11:02,960 --> 02:11:05,600
but I mean, that's open for 
reinterpretation, I guess. 

2736
02:11:07,520 --> 02:11:10,680
We've got some heads, kind of. 
Yeah, we have that. 

2737
02:11:10,680 --> 02:11:13,480
Seaman Gonstrov went to Milan to
set up bank accounts and 

2738
02:11:13,480 --> 02:11:16,440
Scorsese daringly put in a 20 
minute long take of the Nero's 

2739
02:11:16,440 --> 02:11:18,880
character setting up savings 
accounts in his three daughters 

2740
02:11:18,880 --> 02:11:21,920
name, specifying the interest 
rate and the authorised people 

2741
02:11:21,920 --> 02:11:24,640
who could withdraw money to be 
the camera work just made that 

2742
02:11:24,640 --> 02:11:27,640
whole scene the most memorable. 
5 stars from Comcast 

2743
02:11:27,640 --> 02:11:29,520
Cablevision. 
I don't think it's 20 minutes. 

2744
02:11:29,520 --> 02:11:33,160
I think it's like 7 1/2 or so, 
but still, it is wild. 

2745
02:11:33,840 --> 02:11:37,440
It's long enough, yeah. 2 1/2 
stars from Tatzler worming. 

2746
02:11:37,440 --> 02:11:40,120
After I saw Gansher off I walked
out of the theatre normally and 

2747
02:11:40,120 --> 02:11:42,800
without incident. 
Someone then responds in a 

2748
02:11:42,800 --> 02:11:44,880
comment liar and they respond 
fine. 

2749
02:11:44,880 --> 02:11:47,480
I did the Gansher off walk. 
I hate this fucking website 

2750
02:11:47,480 --> 02:11:51,280
anyway. 
Cannibality. 

2751
02:11:51,280 --> 02:11:54,040
People like control of existence
left completely intact. 

2752
02:11:54,320 --> 02:11:57,600
It's propaganda and you're all 
too stupid to notice because of 

2753
02:11:57,600 --> 02:11:58,840
the gay subtext. 
I've. 

2754
02:11:58,840 --> 02:12:00,320
Got I've got a couple here as 
well. 

2755
02:12:01,080 --> 02:12:02,960
Pepper these in. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

2756
02:12:02,960 --> 02:12:04,280
You're throwing in through and 
it's having a great. 

2757
02:12:07,280 --> 02:12:09,320
I've got This movie has three 
separate love triangles and none

2758
02:12:09,320 --> 02:12:10,600
of them are heterosexual. 
Yeah. 

2759
02:12:11,240 --> 02:12:13,680
Guntarov and and Andrea look at 
each other like divorced parents

2760
02:12:13,680 --> 02:12:16,360
at a school play. 
My God fucking do as well. 

2761
02:12:16,520 --> 02:12:19,960
It's like what a cool parent. 
And Spain. 

2762
02:12:20,600 --> 02:12:22,600
Then we'll literally start a 
mafia war instead of going to 

2763
02:12:22,600 --> 02:12:26,040
therapy. 
Katya and Sofia should have run 

2764
02:12:26,040 --> 02:12:27,320
away together and opened a 
bookstore. 

2765
02:12:27,360 --> 02:12:29,680
And Guntarov? 
I trust you, Andrea. 

2766
02:12:29,680 --> 02:12:30,840
You shouldn't. 
Guntarov. 

2767
02:12:30,920 --> 02:12:32,320
Understandable. 
Have a nice day. 

2768
02:12:33,480 --> 02:12:36,360
Yeah, four-star view. 
Yeah, I'm sorry. 

2769
02:12:36,360 --> 02:12:38,000
Sorry. 
Fake news. 4 1/2 star from She 

2770
02:12:38,000 --> 02:12:39,960
already killed. 
When he thinks we're going to 

2771
02:12:39,960 --> 02:12:40,480
fuck. 
When? 

2772
02:12:40,480 --> 02:12:42,080
Really. 
I'm about to explain the clock 

2773
02:12:42,080 --> 02:12:43,840
symbolism. 
And Martin Scorsese, he's going 

2774
02:12:43,840 --> 02:12:45,680
to shower. 
Off to him for three hours. 

2775
02:12:48,040 --> 02:12:50,720
Ivan Ghansharov this, Nikolai 
Ghansharov that. 

2776
02:12:50,920 --> 02:12:52,320
Why? 
Will you guys realise there's a 

2777
02:12:52,320 --> 02:12:53,960
reason we don't know his first 
name? 

2778
02:12:53,960 --> 02:12:57,600
The point all caps is that we 
don't know Ghansharov is a 

2779
02:12:57,600 --> 02:12:59,880
family name and whether 
Ghansharov used to be told he 

2780
02:12:59,880 --> 02:13:01,440
went up and being the head of 
the family. 

2781
02:13:01,640 --> 02:13:04,440
He doesn't have a personal name 
to denote who he is outside of 

2782
02:13:04,440 --> 02:13:07,680
his mafia persona. 
I did not understand that review

2783
02:13:08,200 --> 02:13:11,560
at all. 
And one star from someone called

2784
02:13:11,560 --> 02:13:13,600
Satan worship. 
I had Ghansharov once, but a 

2785
02:13:13,600 --> 02:13:18,760
shot cleared that right up and a
great 1 he had to finish on from

2786
02:13:18,760 --> 02:13:22,160
Fantastic fables broke. 
The fact that Consharov lights 

2787
02:13:22,160 --> 02:13:24,480
Andrew's cigarette for him with 
his own cigarette with a hint of

2788
02:13:24,480 --> 02:13:28,120
great affection in a scene under
the rainfall symbolises his 

2789
02:13:28,120 --> 02:13:30,320
longing for the entirely 
fictional life he believes Andre

2790
02:13:30,320 --> 02:13:33,160
may offer him, and the fact that
both of their cigarettes go out 

2791
02:13:33,160 --> 02:13:36,360
in a few seconds foreshadows how
his destructive desire will ruin

2792
02:13:36,360 --> 02:13:37,680
them both. 
Woke. 

2793
02:13:37,800 --> 02:13:39,800
The cigarettes go out because 
they're standing in the rain 

2794
02:13:39,800 --> 02:13:42,360
with no umbrellas. 
Symbolises the fact that they're

2795
02:13:42,360 --> 02:13:46,360
both really fucking stupid. 
Scene perfect. 

2796
02:13:46,520 --> 02:13:50,520
No notes. 
Wow, great, Ryan. 

2797
02:13:50,640 --> 02:13:52,160
What what Catterick is healthy 
remaining? 

2798
02:13:52,160 --> 02:13:55,000
I think we're going to. 
Spend the wheel of directors. 

2799
02:13:55,720 --> 02:13:58,400
Have we got all this? 
So as we've done our previous 

2800
02:13:58,400 --> 02:14:00,760
episodes, we're going to spin 
little wheel of names I've got 

2801
02:14:00,760 --> 02:14:03,480
here that lists directors and 
films that have been done 

2802
02:14:03,480 --> 02:14:05,000
previously on clear and present 
Dudes. 

2803
02:14:05,000 --> 02:14:07,680
We'll just do it with the once 
this one time and it has come up

2804
02:14:07,680 --> 02:14:10,800
on John TNN Hunt for. 
Metal. 

2805
02:14:11,240 --> 02:14:15,440
It should be, but yeah, from of 
of Die of Die Hard and Hunt 

2806
02:14:15,440 --> 02:14:20,600
wrote to the female and 
latterly, as I discovered a bit 

2807
02:14:20,600 --> 02:14:22,560
of a week, the remake of Thomas 
Cronifer. 

2808
02:14:22,720 --> 02:14:24,400
But yeah, go on. 
I think this film would have 

2809
02:14:24,400 --> 02:14:27,200
lost a lot of its second of 
Scorsese Lane Caleb kind of 

2810
02:14:27,200 --> 02:14:29,600
panache, to be honest thing. 
I don't think the film would 

2811
02:14:29,600 --> 02:14:35,040
have gone quite as hard under a 
#10 and I mean, I will. 

2812
02:14:35,040 --> 02:14:37,280
Say that. 
The action sequences would 

2813
02:14:37,280 --> 02:14:40,520
probably have been like better. 
Do you think that could have? 

2814
02:14:40,560 --> 02:14:41,760
Do you? 
Do you think you would have 

2815
02:14:41,760 --> 02:14:44,200
handled the incredibly gay 
subtext? 

2816
02:14:44,440 --> 02:14:45,480
You think we've handled them 
well? 

2817
02:14:45,560 --> 02:14:47,880
I do it. 
Definitely would have there. 

2818
02:14:47,880 --> 02:14:49,280
Would have been there still, 
yeah, I think. 

2819
02:14:49,840 --> 02:14:50,960
He wouldn't have told them or 
anything. 

2820
02:14:51,680 --> 02:14:53,920
Neil Breen would have. 
Everyone in the film would have 

2821
02:14:53,920 --> 02:14:58,760
wanted to fuck Neil Breen. 
Just wait until it explained me.

2822
02:14:59,880 --> 02:15:02,520
Jesus, right? 
If you'd asked me a couple of 

2823
02:15:02,520 --> 02:15:05,040
weeks ago what I think John 
Mcteon and Gunter would have 

2824
02:15:05,040 --> 02:15:08,200
been like, I would have said 
like, Oh yeah, Like, the action 

2825
02:15:08,200 --> 02:15:10,200
seems to be better the store, 
the story would be more 

2826
02:15:10,200 --> 02:15:12,640
comprehensible, and it would 
have been like a tightly 

2827
02:15:12,640 --> 02:15:15,560
scripted thriller rather than 
like, whatever the fuck this is 

2828
02:15:16,320 --> 02:15:18,240
then. 
Since then, though, I watched 

2829
02:15:18,280 --> 02:15:21,120
The Thomas Crown Affair, and now
I'm convinced that this film 

2830
02:15:21,120 --> 02:15:23,720
would have been just fucking sex
scenes the entire way through. 

2831
02:15:23,720 --> 02:15:25,640
It's been fucking and fucking 
and fucking and fucking and 

2832
02:15:25,640 --> 02:15:30,240
fucking with a really light 
story which is designed purely 

2833
02:15:30,240 --> 02:15:32,440
to put you into reasons where 
you can can see Pierce Brosnan 

2834
02:15:32,440 --> 02:15:33,800
fucking and fucking and fucking 
and fucking I. 

2835
02:15:34,640 --> 02:15:39,160
Like that actually. 
Yeah, wild movie, absolutely 

2836
02:15:39,160 --> 02:15:41,440
insane film. 
Hard recommend. 

2837
02:15:41,440 --> 02:15:43,520
Should should we give up one 
more spin guys? 

2838
02:15:44,200 --> 02:15:47,960
Yeah, dude. 
Well, say you didn't get a 

2839
02:15:47,960 --> 02:15:49,960
chance to. 
Answer but shit sorry man but 

2840
02:15:49,960 --> 02:15:53,560
the next one is going to. 
Be there you go. 

2841
02:15:54,560 --> 02:15:58,360
Sonia, how would how would this 
film be done under the adept 

2842
02:15:58,360 --> 02:16:01,880
hand of Neil Breen? 
Well, you you've taken the the 

2843
02:16:01,880 --> 02:16:07,280
the big bit that everyone would 
have wanted to to or or. 

2844
02:16:07,320 --> 02:16:09,640
It it it. 
Probably would have gotten 

2845
02:16:09,640 --> 02:16:19,360
renamed to to to getting off. 
It'd be gun gun contour of in a 

2846
02:16:19,360 --> 02:16:21,840
colon. 
They'd be Gunture of the the 

2847
02:16:21,840 --> 02:16:28,080
Tortured Poet or something. 
Kings fall, cities fall. 

2848
02:16:28,080 --> 02:16:34,320
I came from Russia to move in on
the Neapolitan mafia. 

2849
02:16:36,080 --> 02:16:38,959
She is. 
Taking away my wife, I can't 

2850
02:16:38,959 --> 02:16:42,360
believe she's doing it. 
She can't be getting away. 

2851
02:16:42,360 --> 02:16:47,320
With that, I am going to just 
shoot this stupid. 

2852
02:16:49,200 --> 02:16:54,320
Shit. 
Yeah, so, so your point, Preen, 

2853
02:16:54,320 --> 02:16:56,520
right, is like is obviously like
a bit of a megalomaniac. 

2854
02:16:56,520 --> 02:16:59,160
And whenever he puts himself in 
a film, his character is like, 

2855
02:16:59,160 --> 02:17:00,920
is like pure as the driven suit,
right. 

2856
02:17:00,920 --> 02:17:03,360
Yeah. 
So there's no way that gunshot 

2857
02:17:03,360 --> 02:17:06,280
is still a crime boss. 
Guntrov is just is. 

2858
02:17:06,480 --> 02:17:09,600
Guntrov is just a guy who 
happens to be in Naples as the 

2859
02:17:09,600 --> 02:17:12,559
rest of the story is happening. 
Either that or it's like half 

2860
02:17:12,559 --> 02:17:16,000
alien half Angel fucking 
psychic. 3000 Rule of God, 

2861
02:17:16,040 --> 02:17:18,360
Emperor of Mankind. 
You know, yeah, that. 

2862
02:17:18,360 --> 02:17:19,160
All right. 
So Gontrov. 

2863
02:17:19,160 --> 02:17:20,799
Yeah. 
Gontrov is like the the Godda 

2864
02:17:20,799 --> 02:17:22,639
brew of mankind. 
He's 3000 years old. 

2865
02:17:23,000 --> 02:17:26,000
He has a second hand underneath 
his actual head that will get 

2866
02:17:26,000 --> 02:17:28,000
revealed once in an awkward 
green screen scene. 

2867
02:17:28,280 --> 02:17:31,559
And he never had a beard. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

2868
02:17:31,840 --> 02:17:35,959
And Beard and it'll be like, and
then you'll see like Mario and 

2869
02:17:35,959 --> 02:17:38,920
Brasini, like like, like 
backhanded slap his girlfriend 

2870
02:17:38,920 --> 02:17:41,040
or something. 
And he'd be like, that's not 

2871
02:17:41,040 --> 02:17:42,840
nice. 
And then you'll like touch. 

2872
02:17:43,040 --> 02:17:45,840
Like he'll touch like Mario's 
with his hand And then like 

2873
02:17:45,840 --> 02:17:47,799
he'll immediately develop like 
palsy. 

2874
02:17:48,400 --> 02:17:52,639
Yeah, yes, he touches hands. 
Like I've given you cancer now. 

2875
02:17:52,799 --> 02:17:54,760
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
And then, like, the entire, 

2876
02:17:54,760 --> 02:17:57,440
like, last five minutes of the 
film is like, everybody killing 

2877
02:17:57,440 --> 02:17:58,000
themselves. 
Yes. 

2878
02:18:00,280 --> 02:18:04,760
My God. 
Of ticking clocks would just be 

2879
02:18:04,760 --> 02:18:08,160
stock images that aren't moving.
Get amazing. 

2880
02:18:08,280 --> 02:18:11,080
Yeah, about the same three 
clocks, yes. 

2881
02:18:11,280 --> 02:18:16,120
Yeah, or it would be the same 
shitty clock green screened on 

2882
02:18:16,120 --> 02:18:18,840
different buildings. 
And he wouldn't have managed to 

2883
02:18:18,840 --> 02:18:21,320
get any of the Italian National 
Football team in OR, that's for 

2884
02:18:21,320 --> 02:18:23,600
fucking sure, guys. 
And that explosion of the 

2885
02:18:23,600 --> 02:18:25,520
boathouse would just be like a 
composited that would. 

2886
02:18:25,879 --> 02:18:28,080
Be so fucking bad. 
Explosion. 

2887
02:18:28,080 --> 02:18:30,840
Yeah, like a PowerPoint style 
sound effect. 

2888
02:18:32,320 --> 02:18:36,680
Yeah, cool. 
It would suck. 

2889
02:18:39,440 --> 02:18:40,959
What are we at now for 
categories? 

2890
02:18:41,000 --> 02:18:44,480
I think think all we've got left
is the CIA thing, which doesn't 

2891
02:18:44,480 --> 02:18:47,719
really. 
Yeah, this this film is film is 

2892
02:18:47,719 --> 02:18:52,320
CIA neutral, I suppose it 
doesn't operate in any kind of 

2893
02:18:52,320 --> 02:18:54,559
space in which they say you are 
involved. 

2894
02:18:54,639 --> 02:18:58,160
A massive massive massive 
stretch would be maybe that 

2895
02:18:58,160 --> 02:19:01,719
revolutionary group is like ACIA
front like for a for a colour 

2896
02:19:01,719 --> 02:19:03,639
revolution thing, but no. 
No. 

2897
02:19:04,680 --> 02:19:06,799
This is just another CIA neutral
film. 

2898
02:19:07,879 --> 02:19:12,760
Be so, yeah. 
So I think we are at the end of 

2899
02:19:12,879 --> 02:19:16,200
our podcasts. 
So all that is remains to say is

2900
02:19:16,200 --> 02:19:24,639
that we have been. 
Clear and clear as in April. 

2901
02:19:24,680 --> 02:19:29,520
Fools get dunked on. 
There was 2. 

2902
02:19:29,520 --> 02:19:31,200
Wasted your valuable time. 
This one doesn't exist. 

2903
02:19:34,639 --> 02:19:36,520
We have we have wasted your 
time. 

2904
02:19:36,520 --> 02:19:39,360
As Mike said, this film does not
exist, and neither does its 

2905
02:19:39,360 --> 02:19:44,000
purported sequel, Gunshot 2. 
A Guncha. 

2906
02:19:44,000 --> 02:19:50,200
A Gunsha Oh, thank you so much 
for giving us your time. 

2907
02:19:51,000 --> 02:19:52,880
We've gone too far. 
Gone, gone. 

2908
02:19:52,960 --> 02:19:57,360
Gone too soon, yeah. 
We've gone stickers to the sun. 

2909
02:19:57,360 --> 02:20:00,000
We did. 
That was, that was utter chaos. 

2910
02:20:00,400 --> 02:20:03,320
If you're listening to this on 
April Fools Day, then then, then

2911
02:20:03,320 --> 02:20:05,440
you, you are the fool. 
If you're not, we are the fools.

2912
02:20:05,440 --> 02:20:07,120
We are the fool. 
We are the fool. 

2913
02:20:07,400 --> 02:20:10,120
In the words of Tommy wasso 
everyone betrayed me and I am 

2914
02:20:10,120 --> 02:20:10,440
the fool. 
The. 

2915
02:20:11,360 --> 02:20:17,600
Fool, should we do a real one? 
We really have been actual clear

2916
02:20:17,720 --> 02:20:24,160
and present. 
Dudes, dudes. 

2917
02:20:24,960 --> 02:20:25,920
OK, there we go.