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Welcome to Clear Presidents, 
where we've just where we've 

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just greeted Saga in a proper 
fucking podcaster room with 

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these boots by like he's on Sky 
News. 

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Hello. 
Hello, I'm I'm here today as our

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regional expert on on 
everything. 

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As you can see I am going to be 
very opinionated and here's why.

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Everyone's stupid except me. 
It's made by Box Room with my 

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cat tent on the background and 
there's Rory in his extremely 

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busy kitchen. 
Yeah, brilliant. 

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There are books behind me with 
the cookbooks so. 

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To make matters worse, I've got 
an armchair. 

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Wow, fuck sake. 
OK, here we are. 

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Admiral Chris Power. 
He retired. 

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Monitoring the situation. 
I am. 

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I am presently going to change 
my name to Lord render quote. 

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Fucking good. 
Grief of spit head. 

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Yeah. 
OK. 

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Boom. 
Admiral Lord Westshade thrown 

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right. 
OK. 

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Coming in. 
It was my Abbey Deans 

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representing. 
Clear and present danger. 

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National security of the United 
States? 

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You have no idea. 
What men and welcome to clear 

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and present dudes. 
You might worry about those 

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podcasts out there with three 
white dudes. 

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Talk about politics skewing the 
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men towards misogyny. 
Self hatred in a manosphere. 

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It's not our unit in this 
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In this podcast we just talk 
about movies and it's good and 

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nice. 
Weather podcast that stops us 

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getting hit by copyright 
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Brilliant, I affected. 
I am joined by Rory James o'tool

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this kitchen in Sanya from his 
vast library. 

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And tonight we are diving 
moderately deep into the 

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moderately successful moderately
Tom Clancy ish Jack Ryan shadow 

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recruits. 
Hello, welcome. 

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Please, if you haven't already, 
subscribe like do the follow on 

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Spotify, click on the sub stack.
One day I'll get back to writing

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on it. 
I've just been real busy and. 

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Come with a discord as well. 
Discord is fucking empty. 

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It's become. 
Discord It's depressing to be a 

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discord mod with new new 
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warning this is a spoiler cast. 
We're going to spoil the movie 

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all the way through, but this 
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you didn't watch it then not 
many other people did either, so

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that's fine. 
OK, right. 

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How we doing? 
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it? 
Yeah, this quarterback had the 

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situation. 
Somebody tried to kill me. 

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Jack, Jack, Jack. 
Is work OK? 

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Yeah. 
You know you sold this as an 

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office job. 
Why don't you sit down Now talk 

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me through your very scary 
scenario. 

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Keep in mind I don't have your 
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Tokyo, London, United States. 
It's going to be a wipeout. 

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We'll never see it coming. 
You're not just an animus 

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anymore. 
They're operational now. 

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Jack, I have to go to Moscow. 
Why don't you want me to come? 

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And we'll be working the whole 
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They play rough over there. 
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unpredictable. 
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yourselves as direct. 
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Perhaps you're just touching 
Jack. 

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You got another problem. 
What are you doing here? 

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You lied to me for three years. 
Somebody come on? 

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Of course not. 
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Can we have a a minute please? 
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couples therapy. 
Partnerships are delicate news 

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today. 
Sometimes they end violence. 

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What? 
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Sometimes the ones closest to us
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leave. 
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Jack Ryan Shadow Recruit is a 
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into a long running film 
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character by Thomas Clancy. 
Repositioning the hero this time

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is a post 9/11 analyst drawn 
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than the Cold War, the Gold's 
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This particular entry was 
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Branagh, written by Adam Kozad 
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I think you mentioned it before 
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David Kepp penned film we've 
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That's because a lot of films 
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like Jurassic Park and 2017's 
The Mummy starring Tom Cruise. 

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Anyway, it stars Chris Pine as 
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Kevin Costner and Keira 
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theatrically on the 17th of 
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Not long before I joined the 
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About about about 8 weeks before
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including an IMAX release that 
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As I mentioned, the film was a 
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office. 
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North America and ultimately 
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domestic, which and then 
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cost about 60 mil to make. 
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double it for marketing stuff, 
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on its first weekend made over 
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domestic product of this one and
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second weekend. 
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This is not that. 
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Who had seen this film before? 
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Nope. 
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I watched it in, I watched it on
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all I remembered about it. 
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Jack Ryan. 
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yesterday, and if I hadn't made 
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I'd probably remember that Kevin
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And that's about it. 
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film we've done that one of us 
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Because I watched Unstoppable 
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flying back from Iceland after 
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Now that movie. 
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This was my pick as well. 
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What did you think? 
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It was OK as a film. 
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film. 
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Jack Ryan films, but you are up 
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Parts of it followed pretty 
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Some of it was kind of fun. 
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opportunities in the film. 
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almost a subplot in it that 
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because it was meant to be part 
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into spoilers. 
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But there's a family, a family 
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US who got activated and they're
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terrorist attack in New York. 
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within the realms of a really 
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I've got I've got opinions about
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Sonia, what did you think of the
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You've said it's not great, not 
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goes. 
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Jake Ryan products, I rated the 
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released by the Incident. 
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I am. 
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it, but it's not getting a very 
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BS the serial through scrub OK 
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That's the thing we just did. 
This is what sets us apart from 

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other podcasts. 
Niche. 

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This film didn't find all the 
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sweepers. 
Unsuccessful Ford plot of a 

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movie. 
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I'll, I'll, I'll get to the 
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So we mentioned at the beginning
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this reframes Jack Ryan's 
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military. 
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Economics 911 happens and then 
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as a Marine will not enlist 
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It's 2003. 
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He's a helicopter that gets shot
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Castorfic back injury, which is 
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these are all in a parallel 
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And that and but they're like, 
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every Jack Ryan must have to 
have fuck up his back. 

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Yeah, in the in a helicopter 
crash and it's all different 

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kind of ways because obviously 
in the what's his name? 

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Jim, Jim, Jim from the office, 
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Whatever it. 
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He his his back injury 
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horrible because like, I mean, 
Mike, I think you've seen season

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1 of the Jack Ryan show Sonya, I
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him and his team like evacuates 
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some village in Iraq. 
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just literally suicide bombs the
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cut like Jack Ryan's POV and his
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poking grenades and it's like 
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This one you've got gets gets 
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cannon for the novel Jack Ryan 
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an exercise. 
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right. 
It does come up when when they 

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put him on the carrier and the 
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this fucker doing on my ship? 
That's right. 

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And they're like, oh, well, 
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from. 
So yeah, he was. 

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He was in the what? 
Also was at the Academy. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
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for like Booby Jack Ryan's who 
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actual war because they weren't 
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Go on then. 
I mean, they could have. 

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Yeah, no, they could have done 
some like shitty you could have 

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been Panama, could have been in 
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But it wasn't, so it's OK. 
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the living out the plot of the 
Cobland song, student visas and 

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getting shot down in Latin 
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death squads. 
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movie, he is in a field hospital
and they go, oh, this guy's 

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back's really fucked up. 
We got to go, him got to go out.

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He's he's done with this war. 
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And then we kind of catch up 
with him as he's doing some 

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painful physical therapy. 
Classic thing, the whole walk in

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with a crutch whilst someone's 
like come come towards me thing.

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But you always see he meets 
Kathy Mueller who becomes Kathy 

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Ryan, of course. 
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Three. 
This is our 4th Kathy Ryan. 

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There are only four. 
Kathy Ryan's isn't there because

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one of them is actually in two 
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Hold on the original. 
Gates McFadden. 

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Gates McFadden. 
Then we have the the main Kathy 

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Ryan from I think that's right. 
Yeah, no relations still then we

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have. 
I've forgotten her name in. 

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All the TV shows Arsenal fields,
Bridget Moynahan. 

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I forgot about her as well. 
Yeah. 

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Then we have TV show and then we
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So there's 5. 
There's five. 

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You're right. 
I forgot about Bridget Moynahan.

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Yeah, Yeah. 
Cool. 

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Yeah. 
So let's just do this now. 

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Power rankings for power 
rankings. 

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Power rankings for Fizz Ryan. 
Who's who? 

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Who wins? 
Right? 

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Who would win the fight? 
And who and who's the Who's the 

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most convincing? 
Actual Kathy Ryde. 

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Hand fight all at the same time 
or like do I have like a kind of

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a kind of like structure thing 
that's like of course, it's the 

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limited. 
Can look out that tournament. 

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Like the World Cup of of Kathy's
riot fighting. 

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No, I want to go for like a rage
in the cage. 

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Yeah, welcome to the 
Thunderdome. 5 Kathy's enter 

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what Kathy leaves. 
Leaves on my left, Kathy on my 

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right, Kathy right ahead of me, 
also Kathy behind me. 

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Two more Kathy's. 
Oh my God, it's Kathy with the 

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steel chair. 
One knife. 

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I'll be, I'll be. 
Cornish's the Kathy Ryan from 

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the TV show. 
We haven't even said her name. 

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Yeah, just don't throw that out 
of. 

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Respect on her name. 
With the rest of the Kathy's 

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ride, Gates McFadden is getting 
physically beaten first. 

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I think I just don't see her as 
being fighting particularly. 

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No, no, no. 
Keira Knightley looks like, I 

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mean, she's, she's very lean, 
she's very rapid. 

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Sorry, I will say, I will say 
about Gatesburg for them though 

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that her outfit for for the 
fight would be like like the 

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neoprene like jumpsuit like 
aerobic city that she was 

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wearing. 
She wearing, Yeah, it's Beverly 

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Pressure in Star Trek, which is 
doing like the aerobics with 

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with Deanna Troi. 
Fucking aerobic scene. 

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Good grief. 
Fan service. 

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So I think, I think that the the
Keira Knightley, the Keira 

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Knightley, Cathy Ryan looks 
pretty rapid. 

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I think long reach as well. 
I think she's a bit taller than 

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some of them she seems. 
She is. 

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She's Yeah, she's tall. 
She's got let's get a tale of 

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the tape on them. 
First of all, podcast. 

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We just want know how tall these
women are, how much the way, how

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long the reach is, how big the. 
Age. 

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She's. 
Currently going to call for 

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Polly. 
My God. 

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And she's just going to come in 
like full domino mode and just 

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like dual wheeled guns and just 
I. 

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Remember, that film was normal. 
That was close. 

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All right, Kian, that is 
actually surprising. 5 foot 

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seven. 
I thought she'd be taller. 

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Hey, Sam. 
Hey, it's me. 

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Cool. 
It's not in normal units. 170 

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centimetres. 
Let's get out of here. 

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So what what I suggest is that 
the next Kathy Ryan should be 

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Elizabeth to Becky because she's
like 6 foot 5, which would make 

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her the most powerful for 
Catholics. 

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She would be incredibly 
powerful. 

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Holy shit. 
It would have been like Jack, 

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are you having an affair? 
Oh my God to be so much like 

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rule 34. 
Giant ass stuff made of a. 

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Yeah, this is taking its own. 
So lovely weather we're having 

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today. 
Bridget, Bridget Moynahan, do 

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you think she's got she's got 
that dog in her. 

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I think she, I think she could 
throw down. 

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Yeah, actually that's fair. 
Yeah, it will be a tight run 

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thing. 
I think it would be pretty close

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apart from Gates McFadden who 
was a national treasure and we 

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do love, but she is getting 
beaten in like the first two 

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minutes. 
Yeah, listen to her franchise. 

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They're saying her franchise. 
It isn't her fight either man. 

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It isn't her fight. 
I mean she can't bring a phase 

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out. 
The referee took a phase or off 

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just before she went in. 
Otherwise they'll have been 

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blood buff. 
She had like one line as well 

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and like Hunter October she was 
barely there I think right. 

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I don't know if this is just 
nostalgia talking, but I think 

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an Archer for me is like it's 
kind of mainly I'll tell you why

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because I don't know Ann Archer 
from much of the stuff as well. 

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Yeah, Ann Archer seems 
indefatigable. 

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Like she seems like she's got. 
Like the flagship of the fleet 

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in CS Foresters. 
She seems like she can dig in 

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deeper, I think, for more fight.
And I'll actually be kind of 

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like, I didn't hear, I know a 
bell. 

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Like, yeah. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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You know. 
Because she's got a little 

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forward to look after. 
I think I think she's got the 

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most Catholic trot wife energy. 
Oh yeah. 

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Have have we considered the 
amount of pent up anger they are

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bringing into into the fight? 
Because I feel like Keira 

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Knightley Cathy is like she, she
finds one cinema ticket and is 

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immediately like you are having 
an affair and I'm going to give 

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you shit. 
Can a man not go to the cinema? 

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Yeah, man, right. 
This is this is bright. 

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This is a key point of the movie
I want to talk about. 

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So Keira Knightley is is Kathy 
Miller is, I think, a bit 

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unhinged. 
I. 

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Think she's a lot unhinged. 
I love. 

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Her. 
She's a lot unhinged crazy 

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energy. 
And I love her, I love her. 

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She's mint. 
It's just funny because it's 

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like it's she has a whole rule 
about like, oh, I can't tell a 

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patient, can't tell a patient. 
It's not because HR has gone to 

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her because she already has, 
because I'll tell you what it 

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is. 
It's not her like moral code 

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that's doing it because she is. 
She's getting she's not afraid 

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to break some rules. 
I mean, The thing is right, 

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like, you know what he said, 
just give me a couple of 

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Percocets and just like you'll 
have one and it's like that's 

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that's not from the hospital, 
like dispensary. 

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That's her personal like she's 
carrying. 

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Let's just hold it. 
He's like. 

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She's already been stealing. 
No, these are mine. 

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These are my emotional support 
perks. 

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Jesus, one thing about this, 
like is that Chris Pine, we do a

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time jump, sorry, he gets he 
gets recruited by the CIA, which

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we'll talk about in a minute, I 
guess as well. 

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But he there's a time jump and 
then all of a sudden he's 

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working on Wall Street and it's 
10 years later and he goes to 

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see a meaning of sorry, wrong 
number, sorry wrong number. 

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And he goes to certainly doing. 
I like this because it's like 

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all these schooly old fashioned 
spy movie stuff, like a guy 

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going to a cinema to watch an 
old man, a showing of an old 

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movie. 
And they meet up with a contact 

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and they share some Intel. 
Yeah. 

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But yeah, as you say, Sanya, she
she finds that 1 ticket stub and

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and from that 1 ticket stub, the
natural endpoint for her is 

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flying to Moscow to confront her
business trip. 

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But it's like she's like, you 
know what? 

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How about Paris like instead? 
Like, how about Paris instead? 

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I can get time off and just just
just give you Paris. 

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And that's great. 
Just brilliant. 

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Well, I've got. 
Yeah, it's like, well, I'm going

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to, I'm going to Moscow to, to 
as a, as a compliance officer in

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Wall Street to, to interrogate 
these guys accounts. 

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It's it's, it's incredible. 
Are are you fucking the Russian 

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finance guys? 
Are you? 

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Yeah. 
Man, I was obviously so I I 

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watch this with Emma because I 
watch like pretty much every 

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film for this show with, with my
wife and because because we're 

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inseparable and it's disgusting.
But like she was like, yeah, 

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she's a bit like me in terms of 
like, if, if, if like I kind of 

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sometimes give any resistance to
Emma Rod, anything. 

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Like if she says let's do 
something. 

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I said not right now. 
She'll be like what I'm hearing 

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is you hate me. 
What? 

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Why die? 
Why is it like? 

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What did I do wrong? 
And it's like, so once again, 

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this is like I, I have wife 
clearance to say this because 

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I'm not like making fun of her. 
She's she absolutely has cooled 

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me saying this. 
But that's, that's Kathy Mueller

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in this film energy. 
It's like you're not going to 

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bin your job off and go to Paris
with me. 

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What I'm getting is you're 
having an affair at cinemas and 

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you fucking hate me. 
You want me to die? 

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Gosh. 
Yeah, man. 

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Oh, yeah. 
Let's just do it right. 

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I don't, let's not lock 
ourselves into the sequential 

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order of the of the movie. 
Let's just let's just freewheel 

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this thing. 
OK. 

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So he's, he's been in Moscow. 
He's had that bathroom fight. 

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He's killed that dude. 
We'll talk about all those in 

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due course. 
But what happens is Kathy 

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Mueller calls him as he's like, 
fleeing around Moscow on foot, 

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terrified of every single taxi 
that he sees. 

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He hangs up on on the first time
after he's like shot the guy in 

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the hotel. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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And then and then she's calling 
him and, and he's obviously got 

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like a lot of anxiety and saving
his voice, but he's also trying 

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to play it cool. 
He rings like the CIA contact 

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centre. 
Yeah. 

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And and they give him the whole 
are you intact thing, which is 

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very much condos cruellest. 
Condor, yeah. 

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Do you think they've they've 
replaced that with a terrible AI

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agent by now as well? 
Well. 

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It's also sorry. 
It's also It's also a Mission 

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Impossible because David Kepp 
also wrote the first Mission 

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Impossible. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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So, so if the TV series The 
Night Agent has anything to say 

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about it, it's it's still just a
guy in a basement room with no 

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windows with a big fucking 
folder, like a big like 

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documents with, with code words 
and shit. 

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And like these like agents ring 
him and he's like flicking 

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through and they're giving him 
code words and shit. 

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And he's like, fuck my calls on 
that short life. 

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Yeah, then she's rocked up and 
she appears what she appears in 

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the hotel room in in, in Moscow.
I just SAT like on the bed man 

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I'm that's creepy as fuck with 
his. 

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Gun next to her, indeed. 
A note that it's pointing at the

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door. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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And then and then she's like, 
she does this whole like spiel 

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at him. 
Yeah. 

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And like the energy she says it 
with is like unhinged. 

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She's not like frantic or upset 
or like words up or crying. 

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She's like. 
Got a cold? 

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Kind of like this. 
This could end with you like 

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shooting me so. 
I dropped everything and I 

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called it every favour that I 
knew. 

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And I spent 4 hours at the 
consulate begging for a visa. 

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You know, I wanted to make this,
this grand gesture. 

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I wanted you to see what you 
meant to me. 

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So I'm here and you have to say 
something. 

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Well, maybe it's maybe it's 
awful or hurtful or shameful. 

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I don't know. 
But. 

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You have to talk to me. 
You can't let me think that I'm 

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crazy anymore, because now I 
know that I'm not. 

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Just talk to me. 
Will you meet me halfway? 

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I'm in. 
The CRA thank. 

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You brilliant in this film? 
Honestly, I think she's a 

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brilliant Kathy Ryan. 
She's she's just so fucking 

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pissed off. 
But is that, is that who Kathy 

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Ryan's meant to be? 
I mean, I guess she is in the 

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books, right? 
Tell me about Kathy Ryan in the 

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books. 
Kathy Ryan. 

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'S a lot more kind of 
opinionated and fierce about 

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things in the books and like 
sure, like even even in even in 

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the pair and the dragon Jack 
Ryan President Jack Ryan is, is 

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having to smoke cigarettes 
secretly like like he's got a 

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tab habit that he keeps from his
wife because he's scared of her.

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She's a doctor, right? 
Like that makes sense. 

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Yeah, but, but, but, but also 
she's like a Catholic trot wife.

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He was going to fucking hit him 
with like a spoon or whatever, 

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you know. 
And it's like, but I'm like 

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she's like, like she's not like 
a shrinking Violet in the books.

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Like and she gives Jack Ryan 
shit and pushes back at him, you

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know, when he's when he's out 
lying and stuff, as far as I 

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recall. 
So I like her in this even not 

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as a Kathy Ryan, even as just a 
character in general. 

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It's there's a stark difference 
as well from when Ben Affleck 

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Jack Ryan tells Kathy that he 
said the CIA and the some of all

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feels like what goes it goes 
straight on Reddit and posts a 

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thread about it and but Kathy 
Ryan in this is like, Oh my God,

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thank fuck. 
I thought you were having an 

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affair. 
It's like about it now the gun 

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makes sense. 
Right. 

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OK. 
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, exactly. 

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Yeah. 
It's like because, I mean, it's 

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a whole different ball game. 
If you're off, if you go into 

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00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,920
Moscow to have an affair and 
you've put a fucking sidearm 

453
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:35,920
with you, right? 
That's. 

454
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,520
Yeah, well, that sounds like 
maybe sex tourism. 

455
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,680
Yeah, that really does. 
It's like fucking hell, but it's

456
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,120
like, I'm a passport bro. 
I was so worried about you. 

457
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,600
I thought, why did you go to 
Thailand? 

458
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,280
Like so much more dangerous in 
Moscow. 

459
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,440
OK, anyway, let's circle back to
Kira. 

460
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,840
Like his reaction to finding out
that Jack Ryan's in the CIA 

461
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,240
because I want to go back to 
Jack Ryan's recruitment to the 

462
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,480
CIA first, which is an 
incredible scene where he's he's

463
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,520
he's done rehab and watching 
really obviously from a 

464
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,280
mezzanine floor, which is all 
panel of the glass is, is Kevin 

465
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,440
Costner as commander top at U.S.
Navy and he's talking to 

466
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,920
somebody off the screen. 
I don't, I can't remember who 

467
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,960
he's talking to going like, tell
me about this kid. 

468
00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:25,320
And this guy's like he's a 
Lieutenant, the US Marines and 

469
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,680
he, he wrote a report when he's 
at School of Economics about 

470
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,960
money. 
And they wrote another report 

471
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,440
when he was in the Marines 
about. 

472
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,000
Traffic patterns. 
Traffic patterns in Holmand, all

473
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,000
of it. 
And he's like, so do you want to

474
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,840
recruit him? 
Was like, I want to talk to him 

475
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,560
not today, but soon. 
And then, like the next scene, 

476
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,080
they're talking, but this time, 
like Kevin Costner has rocked up

477
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,080
in like, he's nose ones. 
And then like Chris Pines, like,

478
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,040
Christ, Chris Mann's like, why 
the uniform this time? 

479
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,720
And he's like, what do you mean?
He's like, you were watching me 

480
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,360
the other day. 
And it's like, my God, Jack Ryan

481
00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:58,400
is such an observant, 
intelligent guy. 

482
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,280
He's spotted the guy who was 
stood directly in front of him 

483
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,640
in front of a giant placed glass
window looking down on him while

484
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,640
he was doing exercise. 
Well, you see, the reason he 

485
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,800
spotted him was because you 
hadn't taken the Percocets yet, 

486
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,480
so. 
His mind was still. 

487
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,320
Clear Don't. 
Don't do drugs, kids. 

488
00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:17,080
Because he's a Marine. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah and then 

489
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,000
and then then Kevin cost was 
like I just want to thank you 

490
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:26,840
for your service. 
OK, That's like yeah imagine if 

491
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,840
my if my boss rang me and was 
like Mike, how you doing? 

492
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,160
Yeah, I'm good. 
Thanks yeah What's going on? 

493
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,720
Just want to thank you for your 
service mate that your. 

494
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,280
Response is like thanks you too.
Yeah, thank. 

495
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,120
Thank you too. 
Yeah, thank you for your 

496
00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:40,760
service. 
Yeah. 

497
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,960
OK, cool. 
Is this circle jerk over there 

498
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,840
like what the fuck? 
Yeah, right. 

499
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:45,520
So. 
What's so? 

500
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,920
What's the real reason you 
called me? 

501
00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:50,120
Yeah, well, about that report 
anyway. 

502
00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:53,920
So, yeah, Yeah. 
So that happens. 

503
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,000
And then and then Kevin course 
is all like, right. 

504
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,680
I actually, I want to recruit 
you for the CIA because he he 

505
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,440
does that. 
And then he goes for then Jack 

506
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,560
Ryan goes for a run. 
And as he's out for a run in the

507
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,400
in the piston rain, he sees him 
again in a darkened room, stood 

508
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,960
there imposedly in a darkened 
room. 

509
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,800
So he enters the room to talk to
him and he's like, why are you 

510
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,080
watching me? 
And he's like, I've been the 

511
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,120
CIA. 
And I want to repeat you. 

512
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,560
I heard that. 
I saw that work you did. 

513
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,320
And it was astounding. 
It was incredible. 

514
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,000
And I think you should be in the
CIA. 

515
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,240
And then and then Jack Ryan's 
like, oh, the CIA aren't aren't 

516
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,840
you guys like really bad for 
torturing people and rendition 

517
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,200
and like, you know, installing 
dictatorships in South America, 

518
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,840
death squads in the death 
squads. 

519
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,720
Are you just generally or you 
know, just a general like force 

520
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,720
for evil in this post 911 world?
And, and, and Kevin Goza says my

521
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,680
favourite thing in the movie, 
which is that's not our unit. 

522
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,800
My unit is a different. 
My unit is in a different say. 

523
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,920
It goes to a different school. 
Actually, it's from Canada. 

524
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,240
Actually. 
My say, hey, my say only stops 

525
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,520
9/11's happening again. 
I'm like, what do you think that

526
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,400
the torturer guys are trying to 
do? 

527
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,440
You all think you're doing the 
right thing. 

528
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,400
It's incredible. 
I was like, no, that's the guys 

529
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,840
down the hall, that's the, 
that's the rendition and torture

530
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,000
at the parliament. 
We don't talk to those guys. 

531
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,400
We're on a different softball 
team. 

532
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,440
Yeah. 
Jack, do you talk to the guys 

533
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,000
from HR? 
Man. 

534
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,720
We're we're on different 
sittings for lunchtime, yeah. 

535
00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:21,880
I don't even know those guys. 
Yeah, they're on. 

536
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,040
They're on 1st sitting, We're on
2nd sitting. 

537
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,880
None of the waterboarding guys 
are going to be your line 

538
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,120
manager. 
Like don't worry about it. 

539
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:28,880
Don't worry about it, but it's 
fine. 

540
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,680
Don't worry about it. 
It's. 

541
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,040
Cool. 
Anyway, we we are in a secret 

542
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,920
nerds department of the CIA 
where we hire nerds to look at 

543
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,520
money. 
And since you've got a 

544
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,280
qualifications and money and 
you're a Marine, you're the guy 

545
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,800
for the job. 
And then we kept like 10 years 

546
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,040
later, he was working on Wall 
Street. 

547
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,880
And he hasn't aged at all. 
He hasn't aged at all. 

548
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,720
Yeah, 10 years later and he 
looks exactly the same. 

549
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,520
Yeah, so good. 
You see, that's like the CIA 

550
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,680
anti ageing technology that they
put in him, you know? 

551
00:27:57,360 --> 00:27:59,120
Yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, they just make a bit of 

552
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:02,160
mortal like the like, like the 
still the thing, like the like 

553
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,960
you're driving the CIA and the 
shoot you just in case you're a 

554
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,360
Highlander Eskimo, which is why 
the CIA is just full of these 

555
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:11,400
like undying guys with catanas 
and ponytails. 

556
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,120
Well, yeah, right. 
Yeah, the same same price for 

557
00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:16,240
Keira Knightley as well. 
This one's from 2014. 

558
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,840
So let me just do some quick 
maths. 

559
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:23,040
She was 17 when they filmed 
Love, actually 17 plus that was 

560
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,280
in 2000. 
So probably plus plus 14, you 

561
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,280
know, like 30 odds, which means 
that she should be in her 40s by

562
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,160
the time we're in the current 
timeline. 

563
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,280
Yeah. 
Yeah, I'm not getting that vibe.

564
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,840
Be a woman and and remain so. 
So yeah, it's sort of weird 

565
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,680
about women's appearances, but 
no one's aged is 1 trying to get

566
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,000
to including Kevin Costner as 
well. 

567
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,840
It just doesn't even like hang a
lampshade on it. 

568
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,480
It just kind of like let's you 
buy into the fact that all these

569
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,880
people are just like Pret and 
naturally youthful. 

570
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,280
It's not like in, it isn't it 
isn't like in like previous Jack

571
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,680
Ryan films when like Admiral 
Greer gets old and dies, you 

572
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,240
know, it's like, Nope, eternal 
American youth. 

573
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,400
I don't know what right and they
only did this because they had 

574
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,600
to have 911 being the inciting 
incident for his joining of the 

575
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:11,680
military. 
Yeah. 

576
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,240
But like, you didn't have to 
join the day 9/11 happened, do 

577
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,800
you know what I mean? 
Yeah, I can. 

578
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,600
I can just imagine because like 
he's in London as well. 

579
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,200
Like it's imagine, like rock it 
up to the US Embassy and being 

580
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:29,000
like, get me on a fucking plane.
And they're like, step right 

581
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,520
aboard, son. 
You're halfway through a 

582
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,440
dissertation at the LSA. 
Oh, we're going to send you to 

583
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,080
Marine school, man. 
You're on to the islands. 

584
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,640
A lot of people come here so 
they can get degrees, and you're

585
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,880
bidding off your degree to be 
here, OK. 

586
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,160
Fucking amazed that it's like, 
yes, you're a wild one my 

587
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,160
friend. 
You're going to do so much 

588
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,320
writing about traffic. 
God, you're going to write an 

589
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,880
incredible book about this. 
Oh Jesus Christ. 

590
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,560
Which his senior officers won't 
read, but the CIA will. 

591
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,320
So the CIA is essentially spying
on American troops, right? 

592
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,040
Yeah, that's quite well at. 
This point because I just. 

593
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,480
Keep submitting the same report 
like like like a hastener to be 

594
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,200
senior officers. 
I wrote this and he got. 

595
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,160
Flagged. 
I got flagged by the algos. 

596
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:15,680
Put my head. 
Yeah. 

597
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,280
Because, right. 
Anyway, while he's in Wall 

598
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,600
Street, he's doing his 
compliance officer job, working 

599
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:23,920
on his own. 
Nobody knows he's in the CIA. 

600
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,360
He just thinks he's working for 
some firm. 

601
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:30,160
And he does some type E, type E.
And his and his mate who's a 

602
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,400
total fuck boy turns up on. 
Like just a try boy too. 

603
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,080
Hard, but a bike. 
And he's like, Oh yeah, you're 

604
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,880
going to yeah, Maddie, want to 
try and fuck that girl from 

605
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,680
arbitrage, Right. 
And it's like, yeah, man, can 

606
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:42,800
you? 
It's mad. 

607
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,200
He's just so sharp. 
It takes a special breed of 

608
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,200
person. 
It's not messed up. 

609
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,120
Yeah, it takes a special breed 
of person to keep working on 

610
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:55,880
Wall Street after 2008. 
He's just incredibly built 

611
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,160
different. 
There he is, like in his little 

612
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,160
levers and his little motorbike 
and he's like, he wouldn't even 

613
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,440
know the girl's name. 
He's just like that girl I like 

614
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,320
and. 
Yeah, it's like, oh, this, this,

615
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,880
there's a girl. 
I really want to smash an 

616
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,760
arbitrage. 
I'm going to get a get a 

617
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,800
motorbike and tracks like, yeah,
named Sarah, by the way, just 

618
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,440
now we've got a motorbike. 
You're totally going to. 

619
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,520
What the fuck? 
Man, I don't understand. 

620
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,240
I don't understand about Wall 
St, bro. 

621
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,920
Can't. 
Can't talk to a girl. 

622
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,640
That's just a strange 
combination of factors. 

623
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,680
That's so weird and and like 
almost like kind like 

624
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,800
whitewashers. 
Wall Street reputation is just 

625
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:35,160
like a bunch of high speed 
cranked up dudes who love Laco 

626
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,960
Carina are the fucking decadent,
and this is just one guy who's a

627
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,560
little bit of a clumsy fuck boy.
Yeah, man, so strange. 

628
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,480
I know a few people in the 
obviously I know a lot of 

629
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:46,720
officers and they because I'm 
one of them. 

630
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,320
But I've known and a few who 
joined and then left because 

631
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,440
they were just doing it for a 
few years to sort of develop a 

632
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,560
bit of ACV. 
But then they were like, I don't

633
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,640
think I like it anymore because 
it's, you know, it's a hard and 

634
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,080
unpleasant job a lot of the 
time. 

635
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,080
So he was like, I don't think I 
don't think I like it anymore. 

636
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,720
I think I'm just going to go and
work in the city. 

637
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,080
What you had that as an option. 
You could just wander in and 

638
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,960
make a shit, tell him Canary 
Wharf or whatever. 

639
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,840
And then just like in the city. 
And then just like, that's 

640
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,640
something that's two people. 
I know at least you were just 

641
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,480
like, you know what, I'm going 
to Jack in being another gay 

642
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,360
because it's difficult. 
And instead, I'm going to just 

643
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,040
handle shits of money for banks 
instead. 

644
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,520
Good grief. 
Good grief. 

645
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,760
Yeah, Good grief. 
Indeed. 

646
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,440
Anyway, he finds a bunch of 
anomalies in some Russian 

647
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,720
markets, all linking to a firm 
by a guy owned by this guy 

648
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:37,240
Chevron, who is Kenneth Brunner.
And he basically has to go to 

649
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,320
Moscow to check it out. 
So he has this discussion with 

650
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,800
Keira Knightley about how he has
to go to Moscow. 

651
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,880
And she's like, what was the end
of this movie you were looking 

652
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:46,440
at? 
And. 

653
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,360
So I want to circle back to this
film. 

654
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,280
Jack, who are your? 
Fucking you're hiding three 

655
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,440
different women under the 
floorboards, aren't you? 

656
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,960
He's a super marriage pillar as 
well. 

657
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,640
So like he keeps saying, he 
keeps saying like, well, look, 

658
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,000
it wouldn't be a big deal if we 
were just married. 

659
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,880
What would you get married? 
It wouldn't be a big deal if we 

660
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,080
were married. 
Like why you worried so much? 

661
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,600
Just marry me already. 
And it's like. 

662
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,680
But I mean, he wants to, like, 
it's like, gets explained later 

663
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,320
that he wants to marry us so he 
can tell her he's in the CIA. 

664
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,400
Yeah. 
Yeah, yeah. 

665
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,200
Seems like a bit of an arbitrary
distinction, but yeah. 

666
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,960
So he goes to, he goes to 
Moscow. 

667
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:26,440
He's met at the airport by a big
burly bodyguard dude who drives 

668
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,120
into his hotel and they're 
having and there's a bit that 

669
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,640
I'm sure you're going to talk 
about in a bit, mate, where he 

670
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,680
there's a big table full of 
handguns and he has and he shows

671
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,880
a little Chevron card and picks 
up his handgun in the airport on

672
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,920
the way out. 
I'm eagerly awaiting the rundown

673
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,280
of every single handgun on that 
table. 

674
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,440
I'm not going to rundown on 
every single handgun on that 

675
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,160
table, but I do have a few 
comments to make though. 

676
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,720
Good fun. 
And then he gets to gets to gets

677
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,520
to the gets to the hotel and he 
should and he's like, I've got 

678
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,040
to check the room first. 
So they go in the room together 

679
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,080
and it's like, look at that view
isn't an incredible view. 

680
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,800
And it's Moscow. 
And obviously the reason this 

681
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,320
whole movie happened at all was 
that because they were allowed 

682
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,960
to film in Moscow for a bit, 
because they've got lots and 

683
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,240
lots of location footage of 
Moscow. 

684
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,159
Cool. 
And then the guy tries to kill 

685
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,159
him and there's a big fight 
sequence and there's a big 

686
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:12,320
bathroom fight. 
I love a bathroom fight. 

687
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,320
I love a bathroom fight. 
One of the better bathroom 

688
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,000
fights that we've actually 
watched. 

689
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,600
Yeah, I think. 
Yeah. 

690
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,440
I was talking about when we were
doing the Firefox episode, we 

691
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,239
were talking about maybe doing 
like a power ranking of bathroom

692
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,800
fights. 
And this one didn't even feature

693
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,159
on my list because I didn't 
didn't, didn't remember it. 

694
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,600
But actually, it's a pretty good
bathroom fight, right? 

695
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,040
Yeah, yeah, we'll have to start 
ranting them because it's a 

696
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,320
great bathroom fight. 
There's there's also because 

697
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,679
there's a 11 the Mission 
Impossibles, right Fallout. 

698
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,840
I am sure there's a really 
brutal one in Shaft in Africa. 

699
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,199
Wow, OK. 
I mean, it might be, it might be

700
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:49,040
a misfire on here, but I kind of
do remember there being like a 

701
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,920
brutal bathroom fight scene 
Shaft in Africa. 

702
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,400
Richard Roundtree just beaten 
some guy to death, which is you 

703
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,240
always love to see it. 
Yeah. 

704
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,520
A friend of mine sent me with X 
zero contacts the clip from like

705
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,480
a Russian action film of the 
grimiest and most insane 

706
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:09,320
bathroom fight scene I may have 
sent you one night when I was 

707
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,400
drinking actually. 
You sent it to me last year. 

708
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,800
Yeah, but I remember. 
It's fucking nuts like this. 

709
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,680
Like vibrator was used as a 
weapon. 

710
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,120
At one point the protagonist 
pisses on his enemy because his 

711
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,720
enemy jumps somebody's at the 
urinal and it's like there's a 

712
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:29,760
lot going on in that scene. 
I had I had zero contacts to say

713
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,960
my friend like texted us up one 
night and then like out of the 

714
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:39,520
comment wise piss attack and 
it's like so yeah, fuck me bud. 

715
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,640
What else? 
We got Casino Royale. 

716
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,720
We've got Eastern Promises, 
almost certainly the rare I 

717
00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:46,240
can't remember. 
There's a there's a pretty 

718
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:49,840
decent bathroom gunfight in that
ridiculous Arnold Schwarzenegger

719
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,280
one that would want to do a 
clear and present bruise episode

720
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,680
on True Lies. 
True Lies, yeah, yeah. 

721
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,640
Bathroom gonna fight in the 
punch up, but it's got some 

722
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,000
great kind of comedy beats. 
So when we get into the when we 

723
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,680
get into the bathroom fights, 
right guys? 

724
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,520
Here's what I propose. 
OK, I think one of the scoring 

725
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,440
criteria has to be do they use 
the features of the bathroom in 

726
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,040
a unique fighting capacity? 
So you know exactly an 

727
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,560
environmental kill using a sink 
or a shower or a bath or a 

728
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,000
shower curtain or a toilet brush
or any of the item you might 

729
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,400
find in the bathroom. 
The. 

730
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,560
Hard dryer. 
Hand dryer. 

731
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,160
Electric toothbrush. 
Jason Airblade electric 

732
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,360
toothbrush. 
Gorot, somebody with some floss.

733
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,320
What what are those? 
What are those machines that 

734
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,000
sells like condoms and sex pills
and stuff like that? 

735
00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:36,520
You just, you just like smash a 
guy's face against that. 

736
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,200
It floods his like throat with 
like those Borna pills and he 

737
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,440
chokes a. 
Guy has a heart attack because 

738
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,000
he has too much Gorana in his 
system. 

739
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,680
Oh. 
My God, do you think it's actual

740
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,160
real Gorana? 
In those I was just like dust. 

741
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,320
So it gets real. 
Gorana, you're tasting right 

742
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,480
now. 
Son, you don't know Jack. 

743
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,160
You don't know how deep the 
rabbit hole goes. 

744
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,920
The the the Sainsbury's toilet 
burn uphill rabbit hole. 

745
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,520
This is a fucking weird episode.
Welcome. 

746
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,720
To the world that is surreal, 
OK. 

747
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,440
Snake snake, you've got to 
activate the burn uphill 

748
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:19,040
machine. 
What is something I learned from

749
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:25,200
one of my enemies? 
OK, anyway, I like this bathroom

750
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,000
fight because he drowns the guy 
in the bath, which is horrible 

751
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,600
for the guy, but a pretty pretty
cool, inventive way to dispatch 

752
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,800
a foe. 
I really like how we how he 

753
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,800
drowns him and like a small 
about the water as well as kind 

754
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,160
of coming up and he's fighting 
them and there's this real look 

755
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,360
of exertion on on Chris Pine's 
face. 

756
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,600
You know, it's a fucking great 
action scene. 

757
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,000
Actually I really enjoyed. 
It I like it because I mean, 

758
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,840
after this we have but we have 
all the the food is the condo 

759
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,200
stuff we're talking about. 
And we have the bit where he 

760
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,680
phones Cathy and explains. 
Well, he doesn't explain 

761
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,520
anything. 
He hangs upon her and she's like

762
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,680
he must be having an affair 
because he said he was he was 

763
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,640
really jetlag not to go and he 
wants to call me in the morning.

764
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,000
Oh my God, he must be used to be
about to go and fuck a hooker. 

765
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,440
And then and then he meets up 
with Kevin Costner on the park 

766
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,400
bench and Kevin Costner he's got
like a Oh man, what do they call

767
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,280
it? 
It's like a special action dog. 

768
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:25,040
It's a it's a quasi personal dog
that he's he's stealing from 

769
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,880
someone's yard. 
A bit of trade craft, steal a 

770
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,080
dog and. 
And it's the same sitting, so 

771
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,120
the. 
Publication with it. 

772
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,480
And it's, and it's sitting so 
calmly as well. 

773
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,920
And it's like, that's not 
behaving like a stolen dog. 

774
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,800
And that's. 
Surely, surely stealing 

775
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,200
someone's dog is a bad thing to 
do as a spy because now when 

776
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,000
people are out looking for the 
dog and showing, showing his 

777
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,760
name and stuff and you're sat in
a public place. 

778
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,800
So people are real. 
It's it's not ultimately 

779
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,400
attracting people towards you 
because they're going to go 

780
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,760
like, why have you got my 
fucking dog? 

781
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:55,200
Yeah, and and Kevin Costner 
probably isn't working under 

782
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,480
legal cover, right? 
He's not. 

783
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,080
He's because I mean, it's your. 
Mission, should you choose to 

784
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,120
accept it, is to steal this 
beautiful dog from someone's 

785
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,840
front garden. 
You'll be disavowed if detected.

786
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:06,960
Well, he would, that's the 
thing. 

787
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,360
He's an illegal, he would be 
disavowed. 

788
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,240
He hasn't got like fucking 
embassy cover or whatever, you 

789
00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:13,400
know, like he's he's not a quote
unquote diplomat. 

790
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,160
So he's gotten fucking 
disappeared. 

791
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,160
He's getting taken out in the 
woods and getting doomed. 

792
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,200
There's no reason for my steal 
someone's dog yet. 

793
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,760
It's so funny how also like I 
sort of chill and fucking like 

794
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,760
just calm. 
The dog is like you've been 

795
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,840
stolen from some fucking 
Muscovites garden. 

796
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,160
I also love these in like the 
middle of a very urbanised city 

797
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,960
and there's a backyard with a 
dog in it. 

798
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,880
Yeah. 
Another thing I don't 

799
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:42,480
understand, for Kevin Costner's 
rules, this is like where does 

800
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,600
he sit in the organisation? 
So he's in a, he's in a state 

801
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,160
where he's in first name terms 
of the president of United 

802
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,920
States and they've got like 
witty banter flying around all 

803
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,200
the time. 
At the same time at the CIA he 

804
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,080
has like unit level command, 
which isn't that big because 

805
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,320
he's obviously my unit. 
My unit does financial and nerdy

806
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,800
crime. 
That doesn't sound like a very 

807
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,000
big or important part of the 
CIA. 

808
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,480
It's more than. 
Yeah. 

809
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,760
He's not like a deputy director.
That that kind of stuff. 

810
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,960
Wouldn't that like get bend off 
like other subordinate like 

811
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,000
departments and shit? 
If it's like financial crime 

812
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,880
effect in the US, wouldn't like 
an FBI kind of thing or like an 

813
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,760
NSA kind of thing? 
Maybe probably, I don't know. 

814
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:24,200
But I mean, the, the real truth 
is that he's in the IMF, you 

815
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,520
know? 
Exactly. 

816
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,360
That's that's that's why he's 
not the team that does like, you

817
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,880
know, the renditions water board
and with testicular torsion. 

818
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,160
He's he's in the team that does.
I know, I know, somebody got 

819
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,440
testicular torsion once. 
We're in an exercise in 

820
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,400
Dartmoor. 
Jesus Christ. 

821
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,480
Not the worst particular torsion
story I've got from the Navy, 

822
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,120
anyway. 
Got a worse one. 

823
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:49,800
Let's spit it. 
Okay? 

824
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:54,080
Right, So okay, here we go. 
So. 

825
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,600
Welcome to Welcome to ball chat 
with clear and present dudes. 

826
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,400
They were looking at the 
terrible things that happened 

827
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,440
with man's testicular region. 
Right. 

828
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,320
OK, so this story goes back to 
HMS Raleigh, which is the phase 

829
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,240
one training establishment for 
junior rights in the Royal Navy.

830
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:09,800
I went through that myself a 
long time ago and somebody else 

831
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,640
went there. 
And what is right is you have a 

832
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,000
various duties you've got to 
hold in the training block that 

833
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,040
you're all accommodated in, 
right? 

834
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,840
They're just things to do in 
anything to keep occupied, 

835
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,000
basically. 
Like one of them is you've got 

836
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:25,280
to manage the visitor log on the
door to your building. 

837
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,760
Nobody comes to your building. 
So you're just there feeling 

838
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,880
every time someone comes in out,
you could basically write their 

839
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,320
name down again, sign it. 
And it's just like, why? 

840
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,120
It's just people going to the 
NAFI, coming back from the NAFI 

841
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,600
and stuff. 
Just just busy body shit. 

842
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,720
But it's preparing you for being
AQM, the gangway, I suppose. 

843
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,000
Not that you write everything 
down. 

844
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,600
OK, whatever. 
Anyway, this. 

845
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,400
So we do like evening cleaning 
stations, which is like a quick 

846
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,640
20 minutes clean of everything. 
Everyone has their little place 

847
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,400
they go to hence stations. 
And I used to do like actually 

848
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,320
like buff the floor because used
to get covered in like, like 

849
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,000
rubber marks from from our boots
every single day. 

850
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,800
And twice a day I have to go and
rub them all off again with with

851
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:00,960
like steel, wood and a bit of 
brass. 

852
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,360
So it was a fucking stupid job. 
Anyway. 

853
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,320
One guy's job was like taking 
all the gas out from all the gas

854
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,520
bins and throwing them into the 
skipper on the back in the 

855
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,680
courtyard. 
And one time this guy did it, 

856
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,520
but he had like heavy bags and 
he had to jump up to like throw 

857
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,680
the bags into the bin. 
And when he jumped up, he was 

858
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,360
like, he jumped up and like made
contact with the bin, right? 

859
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,800
And on the big skip that there 
was, there was a big jitty bit 

860
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,440
of rusty metal, like sticking 
off it. 

861
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,320
And on the return journey down, 
it went up his scrotum through 

862
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,240
his trousers. 
And he was like, and then he and

863
00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:36,600
then the next thing anyone saw 
was the guy coming into like the

864
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,320
quad and the little jitty bod 
who was like filling everyone's 

865
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,280
names saw him. 
And he kind of walked into the 

866
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:46,760
room holding his like his hand 
around his groyne, OK, covered 

867
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,400
in blood. 
And his two testes were like in 

868
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,240
his hand having exited his 
scrutum. 

869
00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:54,760
And he kind of like did that 
showed him and then like 

870
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,440
collapsed on the floor. 
And then everyone's like 

871
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,680
screaming, crying, throwing up. 
And the ambulance came but. 

872
00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:02,800
Yeah, you see, Cathy, Cathy 
Muller, witness that automatic 

873
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,680
knowledge. 
Go Stage 3, isn't it? 

874
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,520
You die. 
You got what, two months to 

875
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,520
live? 
Your your skin's looking a bit 

876
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,280
yellow there. 
Incredibly not sallow looking 

877
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,520
person at all. 
Spider web Blunt things in the 

878
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,120
back of your hands painted in 
the last scene, Yeah. 

879
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,360
God, gorgeous great man. 
Didn't know I was talking to 

880
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,560
Super dark. 
Holy shit. 

881
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,760
I am honestly the biggest Kathy 
Bueller Stan, and I'm getting 

882
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,240
for you, bigger Kathy Bueller 
Stan. 

883
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:32,920
Specifically this one as we're 
going through this episode, by 

884
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,000
the way. 
Wild be a struck what I was 

885
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,200
talking about Yeah, so they're 
on the they're on the park 

886
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,280
bench. 
They're talking away came across

887
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,840
this hall. 
But like the first person I 

888
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,800
killed blah blah, blah, blah, 
blah. 

889
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,200
And it's like who was he? 
He's like it was a she oh we've 

890
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:50,400
got a bad ass over here and then
and then they have a little chat

891
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,560
and he says to him like you're 
not a land list. 

892
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,440
You're operational now, which I 
think is I'd be like entering a 

893
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,240
service complaint, they 
reflected in my annual report, 

894
00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:01,000
like operating with you on my 
tours. 

895
00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:05,760
It's like, I like how we 
specifically ads as well. 

896
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,560
She wasn't like she was 
innocent. 

897
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,840
She was like a bystander like 
she was, she was a fucking 

898
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,960
bystander. 
And he still remained in the 

899
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,000
CIA. 
Sounds like you're not very good

900
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,480
at your job, Kevin Guster. 
At least in the Jack Ryan 

901
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:24,320
series, to have this background 
thing of how Jim Grier straight 

902
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,400
up threw somebody out of a 
window and that's why he got 

903
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,160
sick. 
The kind of shit assignments and

904
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,280
they get like he's like, isn't 
the thing that Jim, Jim Grier 

905
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,320
was in line for like the Moscow 
job, but then he threw somebody 

906
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,760
out of a window and like Turkey 
or Pakistan or something and 

907
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,640
then like actually Jim, you fuck
now, mate, eventually does get 

908
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,920
the Moscow job. 
Yeah, he just got the Moscow job

909
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,800
eventually, but. 
Yeah, yeah, he gets it because 

910
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,960
the storyline needs him again, 
basically. 

911
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,160
Yeah, like, what the fuck? 
So basically, yeah, this guy 

912
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,160
kills an innocent civilian. 
Really bad luck for the CIA 

913
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,400
here, by the way. 
Incredibly bad. 

914
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,800
She came up behind him too 
quick. 

915
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,280
What does this mean? 
Kill his wife or something? 

916
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,960
Did he? 
Did he did like his daughter? 

917
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,560
Go like, oh dad, you're back 
from work. 

918
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,520
He turns around just like a name
is your neck. 

919
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,520
Snap on her. 
He's gone from never killing 

920
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,720
anyone before to killing 
somebody who sneaked up on him 

921
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:24,920
or just was behind him rapidly. 
Jesus Christ. 

922
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,360
Oh no, no, like. 
I've got to kind of start a 

923
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:34,840
reaction sometimes, but like 
just there's like a million what

924
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,400
happened to my mate, how he 
killed her. 

925
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,080
You know, he did do the job. 
Or like he just like rips out a 

926
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,520
phone karambit or something like
slices them open and it's like, 

927
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,280
shit, you're just like my 
elderly neighbour who who was 

928
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,920
about to be on the shore like 
she needs help with a car or 

929
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,520
something. 
And it's like, I hope this 

930
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,800
doesn't affect my high-powered 
job in the fucking CIA. 

931
00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:56,640
Did it even happen at work? 
Oh my God, probably. 

932
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,720
Some random unmedicated 20 year 
old on her way back to college 

933
00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:04,120
or something. 
It's like she stopped walking up

934
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,000
behind me. 
It's like Oh my God. 

935
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:10,440
I mean followed stop. 
Specifically said unmedicated as

936
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,520
well. 
I might know someone who might 

937
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,120
fit that description. 
Unmedicated is right though, 

938
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,840
because you've got to keep 
taking those anti CIA pills. 

939
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,040
Does dark as big as big as big 
as if you're full of like the 

940
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,280
contrast CIA and all that. 
Can't attack you, can't stab 

941
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,720
you. 
Well, somebody who is full of 

942
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:33,480
contrasial is Kathy Ryan, who 
confronts Jack in his hotel 

943
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,760
meeting after this and is 
delighted to find out that Jack 

944
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,920
is in the CIA. 
Because obviously she has. 

945
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,120
She has fewer qualms about it 
than Jack himself. 

946
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,480
Who's inside. 
Yeah. 

947
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,880
They could. 
And cool also be in the CIA. 

948
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,120
When's when's the next mandatory
fund day? 

949
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,840
When's the next company BBQ? 
I want to meet all your Co 

950
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,640
workers. 
I want to be a CIA wife. 

951
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,680
I want to, I want to like, tell 
people to like, call me by your 

952
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,640
rank, you know? 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

953
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:06,240
Can I can I put like CIA spouse 
on my CD if you? 

954
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,960
Can I put a CIA bumper stick I 
run by Prius? 

955
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,000
She's in the HOA and she's going
to be turned over. 

956
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,400
It's like if you don't repaint 
your bins, my husband is going 

957
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,560
to make you disappear. 
It's more like if you don't 

958
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,000
repaint your shit, my husband's 
boss is just going to kill you 

959
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,920
with a combat knife for being 
too close to him. 

960
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:26,760
That's insane. 
Yeah. 

961
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,000
He's like, I'm in the CIA. 
Thank God. 

962
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,680
I think I started laughing 
before she even said I thought 

963
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,600
you were having an affair. 
So I just was laughing really 

964
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,440
hard at the idea she was going. 
Thank God you're in the say. 

965
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,520
Like what the fuck? 
It is. 

966
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,600
It is like, let's face a fucking
safeguard. 

967
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,120
It's an absolute male fantasy to
like that, that it's like kind 

968
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,720
of catering to to tell the woman
you've got a really fucked up 

969
00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:50,640
secret and goes off that fuck 
for that. 

970
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,600
Get in. 
So glad you told me that I'm not

971
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,960
angry at all for you hiding this
world for an entire 10 year 

972
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,280
relationship. 
Yeah, you've been lying to me 

973
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:02,440
for a decade after I helped you 
literally back on your feet, 

974
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,280
literally walk again. 
You've not given me the fucking 

975
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,520
respect and dignity to break the
CI as rules, rules that they're 

976
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,000
breaking by giving the fucking 
Barretta and telling you to kill

977
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,760
people. 
By the way, you're an analyst. 

978
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,440
And like, she's like, oh, thank 
God for that matter. 

979
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,360
I feel so fucking respected and 
so goddamn cherished. 

980
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,680
Thank you, John. 
It's insane. 

981
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,640
Yeah. 
It's catering to a particular 

982
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,760
fantasy, isn't it, of even for 
guys in the military. 

983
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,360
There is one of the funniest 
scenes in the movie, which is 

984
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,080
Kathy Ryan just getting drafted 
into the mission now because 

985
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,920
she's here. 
It's wild but but like before 

986
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,240
that just quickly skip back. 
We've got the scene when he 

987
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,640
meets to Raven for the first 
time. 

988
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:41,480
What's my Internet? 
Yeah. 

989
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,360
And and to have this like 
proper, like fucking like super 

990
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,840
villain, kind of like 
conversation, which this is one 

991
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,800
of the points when it really 
doesn't feel like a track Ryan 

992
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:50,600
movie. 
Yeah. 

993
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,720
You know, it's like a Bond 
movie, doesn't it? 

994
00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:55,120
Yeah, and yeah, yeah, it doesn't
feels like a Bond movie. 

995
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,960
And so there's a whole that kind
of back and forth. 

996
00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:03,440
Oh, you know, I don't know where
my where BB. 

997
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,160
Dang, my fucking security guy's 
gone. 

998
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,600
No, he'll come back hungover and
remorseful. 

999
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:09,680
It's like you fucking killed 
him. 

1000
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,600
The track Ryan fucking makes 
himself by saying, oh wow, well,

1001
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,040
I was well, I was injured in 
fucking Afghanistan. 

1002
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,880
And you know, like sheriff and 
cigar. 

1003
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,720
Yes, me too. 
Same same same empire was it 

1004
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,880
Same graveyard, different 
empires? 

1005
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,560
It was, it was. 
It was like a different time, 

1006
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,360
different empire, same 
graveyard. 

1007
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,680
Yeah, yeah. 
And my sons too. 

1008
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,640
Which doesn't make sense. 
Doesn't make sense. 

1009
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,480
Doesn't, doesn't, doesn't, 
doesn't fit. 

1010
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,120
Doesn't make any sense. 
That's evidence of a rewrite, I 

1011
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,760
think. 
Yeah, I was plenty of that, I 

1012
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,320
think. 
And it's got my grenade on his 

1013
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,720
desk as well. 
And it's like, your grenade is 

1014
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,600
my grenade. 
And I'm like, am I? 

1015
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,840
Yes, that's M 67. 
That's an American grenade. 

1016
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,800
It's roughly the size of a 
baseball. 

1017
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,720
We've been through this already.
We have been through this 

1018
00:49:56,720 --> 00:49:59,080
already. 
It could be propelled by one of 

1019
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,840
the Imfs man. 
Portable, easily broken down. 

1020
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:08,200
Fucking mobile tactical baseball
pitching machines. 

1021
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:12,360
We've covered this. 
You are Americans, you think you

1022
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,280
are direct, but perhaps you are 
just rude. 

1023
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,400
Which is wild because like, 
Slavic people have like the 

1024
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,240
reputation of being incredibly 
the most fucking direct about 

1025
00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:22,840
things, right? 
The. 

1026
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,760
Most the most quote direct 
people I've ever been a life of 

1027
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,000
all being Easter European. 
Yeah, I mean, I fucking spend 

1028
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,080
between 5:00 to 9:00 days a week
sitting next to a Ukrainian guy 

1029
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,240
at work and yeah, they are. 
They do not beat around any kind

1030
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:37,600
of fucking Bush. 
I don't. 

1031
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,000
We are lying. 
I thought an SMCG 1 deployment 

1032
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,080
in 2020 and one of the weeks 
during it was a Polish pass X 

1033
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,920
and there was a Polish OPS 
officer on the battle staff and 

1034
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,840
routinely every week he would 
call me and be like, hey, Mike, 

1035
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,320
it's I thought your name is 
actually. 

1036
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,560
So that's a shame. 
He was like, hey, Mike, I just 

1037
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,800
remind you your Sid Diaglabs are
shit. 

1038
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,280
And I was like, what? 
What do you mean, man? 

1039
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,200
Like you're not using the proper
format. 

1040
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,080
I'm like, send me the format 
then and I'll use it. 

1041
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,680
But in the meantime, you're 
going to keep getting the shit. 

1042
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:08,120
It's every single day, mate. 
I'm not like it's every. 

1043
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,920
Day, bro. 
Like every single day, it's 

1044
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:12,880
like. 
Fucking amazing. 

1045
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,640
At some point I'm going to like 
roll my hands up here like 

1046
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,840
unless you've got a better 
format mate by my CEO signing 

1047
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:22,800
off of these and we can fuck. 
Yeah, and and then Jack's like, 

1048
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,760
Oh well, you Russians think 
you're poets and stuff, but, and

1049
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,920
I forget like the the last bit 
of that sentence, but it's like 

1050
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,520
you think you're poets and 
whatever, but you just stand up 

1051
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,600
pussies or non American or 
whatever. 

1052
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,200
Oh, ridiculous. 
Then there's the This isn't Geo 

1053
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,000
couples therapy, it's 
geopolitics. 

1054
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,720
Yeah, that's brilliant. 
What's like we We've got 8 

1055
00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:45,800
minutes to make this plot. 
We've wasted four of them. 

1056
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,320
Yeah, that's wild. 
Like Eat fucking Kevin Costner 

1057
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,200
does get some of the best. 
The lines he has often don't 

1058
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,520
make sense, but they are bars. 
Some of his lines are quotable. 

1059
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,280
Most of his lines are like that.
There's loser lines in this 

1060
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,320
movie where it's like it's a 
piffy little line, but I'm like,

1061
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,840
you won't be able to say it. 
Yeah. 

1062
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:08,000
So how Sharif and returned? 
Somehow Sharif and returned yeah

1063
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,360
so they're doing this plan and 
right they're in a they're in a 

1064
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,080
safe house and their plan is 
question mark. 

1065
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,280
I zoomed out so bad. 
I think, I think, I think 

1066
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,880
there's like, he's made plans to
go to dinner with Shraven. 

1067
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,280
He's bringing his wife Kathy 
along because Shraven is aware 

1068
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,320
that cafe's around before he 
even was aware. 

1069
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,040
And yeah, they're going to. 
Because Shraven's a fucking home

1070
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,160
bracker and he loves having sex 
with married women. 

1071
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,200
Exactly right. 
And he's like, ah, so someone's 

1072
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,640
observing your hotel and knows 
that your wife's here. 

1073
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,640
I'm a really bizarrely horny 
man, you know? 

1074
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,440
Yeah, yeah, for a guy he's about
to fucking die, by the way. 

1075
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,760
He's he's he's just say keeping 
track of his body count is like 

1076
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,840
trying, like he's, he's probably
got a mate from from the Afghan 

1077
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,520
war That's, that's had sex and 
more women than him. 

1078
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,120
And he's like keeping tally. 
And on his last day, he's like, 

1079
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:58,840
yeah, Sergey Ivanovich, I beat 
you 273. 

1080
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,080
I'm going to shoot myself now. 
Yeah. 

1081
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,000
Man, I would do the voice but I 
feel like that's only one of the

1082
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,120
meerkats from the advert. 
Fucking hell. 

1083
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,520
Right. 
So I think that part is they're 

1084
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,040
going to like steal his wallet 
and then in that wallet is like 

1085
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,720
an access card. 
And then they're going to go 

1086
00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:17,600
into his building where he 
works, and they're going to 

1087
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:18,800
unlock a. 
Yeah. 

1088
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,080
Vault of some kind and hack into
a computer and steal some 

1089
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,040
packets of data about accounts 
or something. 

1090
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,520
They need to plug something into
the mains electricity and that's

1091
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,560
going to let them access the 
laptop. 

1092
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,880
And it's like Tom Clancy was 
alive when this film was being 

1093
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,560
made, but you can tell he just 
didn't give a fuck. 

1094
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:39,640
Yeah, man. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1095
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,000
I think this is the thing I 
think this movie might not have.

1096
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:46,240
I've got no evidence to put this
up with, right? 

1097
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,240
But bringing David kept on 
board, I think he had like no 

1098
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,280
inkling of a tad of respect for 
the any Tom Clancy source 

1099
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,240
material at all. 
It was just like, I'm going to 

1100
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,520
make a generic spy movie and 
we're going to slap the the Jack

1101
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,160
Ryan branding on it and turn it 
into an origin story for Jack 

1102
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,400
Ryan and have another crack at 
making this franchise a thing. 

1103
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,160
Because it doesn't, it doesn't 
feel like a Jack Ryan or a Tom 

1104
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,520
Clancy product because there's 
nowhere near dense and stupid 

1105
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,280
enough. 
Yeah, it's just like a pretty 

1106
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:13,600
standard. 
We're going to do a little heist

1107
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:14,680
and I'll be that. 
That's it. 

1108
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,120
It's a heist movie, primarily 
with with fake, what feels like 

1109
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,920
a terrorism subplot tacked on. 
That, as I said, shouldn't be a 

1110
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,040
subplot. 
It should be. 

1111
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:23,800
There should be two ear plots, 
right? 

1112
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:28,120
Yeah, I feel like strongest bit 
of this movie is the dinner 

1113
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,160
scenes with. 
That's great. 

1114
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,160
Yeah, that's the best bit where 
like, Jack Ryan is overacting 

1115
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:39,640
and being drunk and obnoxious 
and boorish to get to a point 

1116
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,640
where he can, like, it's 
basically tool, I want to fuck 

1117
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:43,880
off so he can go off and do his 
mission. 

1118
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:45,520
Yeah. 
And then? 

1119
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,080
Like pickpocket and kind of like
drop off thing of the wallet 

1120
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,160
which is pretty fucking slick. 
Absolutely. 

1121
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,120
And then? 
Shriven's like we're going to 

1122
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:53,560
fuck. 
Exactly. 

1123
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,640
And it's the Shriven and Kathy 
scenes that I think are 

1124
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,040
brilliant. 
Kathy is like just so up for 

1125
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,640
this and another reason why I 
think Kathy's a bit fucking 

1126
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,880
mental because she is so up to 
this from the off. 

1127
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,440
Like she's, she's went from like
you're in the CIA to I'm in the 

1128
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,760
CIA. 
She, she is literally this 

1129
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,720
point, a better field agent than
him. 

1130
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,960
You know what it is? 
This this this is more like a 

1131
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,280
Mary Pot Foley origin story, 
really. 

1132
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,000
Yeah, man, like she's like a 
proper, she's being a real honey

1133
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,480
drop here. 
Yeah, just just just doing 

1134
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,080
proper cowboy shit in Russia 
against the Russians. 

1135
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,400
That's that's like the shit Mary
Pot Foley was doing and Cardinal

1136
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,400
the Kremlin, you know, Yeah. 
That's a cool pull. 

1137
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:35,720
Yes. 
We have the soul sequence with 

1138
00:55:35,720 --> 00:55:38,560
like Kathy Ryan talking to 
Shereeven and that's when she's 

1139
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,360
like, how advanced is your 
cirrhosis? 

1140
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:44,040
And she like diagnosis them 
across the table and they talk 

1141
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,440
like about Russian literature 
and they. 

1142
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,320
Yeah, that she kind of, yeah, 
there's a bit of a bit of 

1143
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,680
backwards for, there's a bit of 
bit of bit of sexual tension 

1144
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,080
potentially brewing, certainly 
from, from horny old Shereeven 

1145
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,480
side at least. 
And she's doing such a good job 

1146
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,440
of it that she's getting like 
phone, he's getting calls and 

1147
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,440
stuff and he's like ignoring 
them so you can keep talking to 

1148
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,240
her and stuff. 
Much, much, much like Jack 

1149
00:56:05,240 --> 00:56:08,000
ignored her phone call earlier. 
So it's like. 

1150
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,120
Perfect. 
The heist kind of happens. 

1151
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,760
I don't really like there's, 
there's there's a lot of tension

1152
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,080
in it, I guess, because it's 
like, you know, he's got a good 

1153
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,000
limited amount of time and stuff
and he's he's running out of 

1154
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:23,680
phone signal and like good jazz.
And there's a oh, there's a 

1155
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,440
mobile op centre in a in a van 
as. 

1156
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,120
Well yes, there's a van which 
will love love an OP centre van.

1157
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,440
Yeah, love that. 
Tom's also providing Overwatch 

1158
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,720
with a sniper rifle. 
Just straight up causes an 

1159
00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:38,960
international incident by 
shooting some innocent private 

1160
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,200
security guards mercilessly. 
This. 

1161
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,080
This man's a rogue fucking 
agent. 

1162
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,520
This man's not in the CIA. 
Nobody in this film's in the 

1163
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,600
CIA. 
The CIA is blind to this 

1164
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,560
operation, mate. 
Completely, this is actually the

1165
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:58,360
FSB posing as the CIA in order 
to to create a false flag 

1166
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,720
attack. 
And remember, no Russian. 

1167
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,360
Yeah, nice. 
Yeah. 

1168
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,160
Yeah, God right. 
Can't. 

1169
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,600
Chase with Land Rovers. 
I was going to say I zoomed out 

1170
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,440
so bad from this. 
So what happens is. 

1171
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,440
Kathy gets kidnapped. 
Well, before that, so Triven 

1172
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,320
gets his his his wallet kind of 
like backwards inserted back 

1173
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,720
onto him again as his all 
security teeth still come up and

1174
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,480
be like something's wrong, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah. 

1175
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,360
And everyone's like on a bit of 
a stand off. 

1176
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,480
And yeah, then yeah, you're 
right. 

1177
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,640
There's a there's a Land Rover 
chase a lot of violence here as 

1178
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,560
Land Rovers. 
Sonia, come on, pipe up. 

1179
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,760
There's a Land Rover owner. 
Yeah, I've sent this about a 

1180
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,320
Bond film as well before. 
I I think as much as I love 

1181
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,680
mine, I think there are better 
cars to pick for a car chase. 

1182
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:44,440
You want something that's able 
to go fast and that is. 

1183
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:50,080
Pretty liquids in size, yeah. 
Keep liquids inside and keep 

1184
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,880
other liquids outside. 
Not breakdown. 

1185
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,280
Not breakdown. 
I kind of. 

1186
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:58,920
Personally I wouldn't if you 
want to. 

1187
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,720
If you want to to chase someone 
I don't know, I think you you'd 

1188
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,400
be better off in AVW Beetle 
than. 

1189
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,760
You know, say what though, as a.
It looks great as a gangster 

1190
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,560
car, but. 
As an as an innocent, rude user,

1191
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,000
I I do think there's something 
quite plausible about the the 

1192
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,280
image of seeing a bunch of Land 
Rovers driving like twats in my 

1193
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,760
vicinity. 
Yeah, I mean, that's something 

1194
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,280
I've seen. 
Fair enough. 

1195
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:28,400
I mean also I I've experienced 
this, people do leave you more 

1196
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,080
space if you're driving one of 
them because they don't want to 

1197
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,680
be rear-ended by a three tonne 
box of biscuits. 

1198
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:43,400
So it's probably a good choice 
if you just want to throw a 

1199
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,680
plastic card of the way if you 
you just don't want to be able 

1200
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,160
to stop. 
Yeah. 

1201
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,880
Yeah, I think the story calls 
for as well, because it needs 

1202
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,480
like the physical space within 
it for him to do that 

1203
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,440
legitimately horrible scene 
with. 

1204
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,560
There, it's not a. 
Physical space inside the land 

1205
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:04,920
roller, though certain. 
Yes, but the point is for the 

1206
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,440
story. 
The story needs physical space 

1207
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,720
for him for him to do this now 
they could have gone like 3 days

1208
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,000
of the condo and and had like a 
Ford Bronco, which which has an 

1209
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,400
insane amount of physical space 
to like interrogate people, but 

1210
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,000
wouldn't make sense in Russia. 
The could He was one of those 

1211
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,640
like Lada. 
Is it the Lada Neva, the 

1212
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:26,520
Russian, the Russian 4x4? 
Yeah, which which probably would

1213
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,960
have the physical space, but 
also looks shit inside and isn't

1214
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,200
a kind of oligarchy mobile is. 
I mean, a lot of us are chosen 

1215
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,080
because the intimidate. 
Is driving a Russian made car. 

1216
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:41,520
Yeah, and, and, and the show, 
the show the wealth and almost 

1217
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:45,040
kind of like Western alignment 
in the capitalism kind of sense 

1218
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:49,320
of, of virtual even, you know. 
But yeah, they needed someone 

1219
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,920
that like projects a sense of 
bigness, even though as we're 

1220
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,560
all aware, there's no spits and 
Land Rovers. 

1221
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,120
They're not fucking TARDIS. 
But this one as an observation 

1222
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,160
would do. 
I put light bulb in your mouth 

1223
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,240
and you bite it the door on your
lungs and you fucking die. 

1224
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,600
Yeah, but he should. 
He should be calling Jack, like 

1225
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:10,080
squeezed into the side of the 
car like I have your wife. 

1226
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:14,040
I cannot sit straight inside my 
car because I am more than 

1227
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,280
heaven. 
But I will kill it as. 

1228
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,040
Soon as I have stopped being 
stuck in the door. 

1229
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,000
The the the chase ends pretty 
properly. 

1230
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,200
So like he one thing, he's 
calling him on the phone and 

1231
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,320
they're having and having the 
the phone chats every now and 

1232
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,560
again. 
And I think they're not as good 

1233
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,840
as they could because like Chris
Pine doesn't doesn't have any 

1234
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,440
bars. 
He's just like, I will find you.

1235
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,120
I will find you. 
It's like, yeah, OK, right. 

1236
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:37,560
Yeah. 
I mean, that's not that good. 

1237
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:43,120
Near green levels of of sass. 
Yeah, yeah, repeat this. 

1238
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,000
You must be. 
Getting away with my wife. 

1239
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:51,120
I can't believe if you're 
kidnapping my wife, this can't 

1240
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:55,480
be happening. 
Yeah, then they do catch up. 

1241
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,320
I do like. 
I do like when he catches up 

1242
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,360
though, because he just kind of 
runs at the car and smashes the 

1243
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,560
windscreen with a with a like a.
Pipe. 

1244
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,600
Pipe, yeah. 
And then you must, you must 

1245
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,800
knock out the driver because 
then it stops and then it zooms,

1246
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,800
it crashes into the car in front
of it, which is cool. 

1247
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,040
And then just when you think 
that actor Raven's going to get 

1248
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,360
like some kind of piffy line or 
something, you just get punched 

1249
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,480
in the face and knocked out, 
which I really, which I really 

1250
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,480
enjoy. 
I really enjoy just by Chris, by

1251
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,240
just banging them out. 
He's good. 

1252
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,000
I mean, that's the Marine in 
him, right? 

1253
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:25,320
That's it. 
You want to win a war? 

1254
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,520
Tell it the Marines you know you
want. 

1255
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:31,040
You want to stop a Russian 
oligarch just before he launches

1256
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,760
it? 
The main portion of his 

1257
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,160
monologue? 
Just tell it the Marines man, 

1258
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,440
fucking switch them off. 
Really enjoy that and then 

1259
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:41,120
obviously, yeah, Kathy Ryan's 
rescued and and what we thought 

1260
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,200
might have started to be like 
the dramatic climax, the movie 

1261
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,880
which in all the other dark Ryan
movies, not all of them, but 

1262
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:51,280
like Patriot Games, for example,
ends with like a big kind of 

1263
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,720
attack on his home and his 
family's in danger and stuff. 

1264
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,320
So you think you would be 
forgiven for thinking that the 

1265
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,640
big kind of worry here is 
something's happening to Kathy, 

1266
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,440
but no, she's rescued. 
And then as you said earlier on 

1267
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,600
what should be the airport of 
this movie but it's been shunted

1268
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,160
into like a weird 2 scenes worth
of subplot background first. 

1269
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:11,960
Revealed. 
Yeah. 

1270
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,800
Is the main, yeah, which is the 
main attack of the movie. 

1271
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,960
And I, I think, right. 
So I, I, I, it's weird. 

1272
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,360
It's definitely an evidence 
evidence of rewrites because 

1273
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,960
when I was watching the scene 
where they're sat on the park 

1274
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:28,000
bench and Harper is explaining 
the whole issue to the movie to 

1275
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,400
to to Jack around what you're 
saying like, you know, they're 

1276
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,080
going to trade all this stuff 
off. 

1277
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,680
I honestly zoned out going to do
all these trades. 

1278
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,360
They're going to do all the 
trades at the same time. 

1279
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,440
It's going to crash the markets 
and like China is going to be 

1280
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:40,960
affected weirdly worse than 
Russia. 

1281
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,080
I don't know why because because
they don't have oil reserves, 

1282
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,760
but Russia's got oil reserves. 
So they're going to bounce back.

1283
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,080
But America hasn't got any 
manufacturing anymore. 

1284
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,960
Bad lids and. 
Fucking shit lips. 

1285
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,200
America doesn't have 
manufacturing anymore. 

1286
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,040
Smash cuts to the sleeper agent 
working. 

1287
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,360
It was more part in Michigan. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1288
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,640
But yeah, yeah, yeah. 
So Americans are manufacturing 

1289
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,000
more Americans. 
Six Americans are going to 

1290
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,240
bounce back, and people are 
going to start calling it the 

1291
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,000
American crisis, but then 
they're going to call it what it

1292
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,640
really is, the second Great 
Depression. 

1293
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,600
And what's not going. 
Yeah, OK. 

1294
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,840
That's not like a compelling 
movie fuel, though, because if 

1295
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,880
that was to happen, there's not 
like a really obvious visual 

1296
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,560
image of like, oh, the second 
Great Depression's happened or 

1297
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,240
it's about to happen. 
Like, like unless, unless like 

1298
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,360
the end shot of the movie is 
like some dude from Wall Street 

1299
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,840
stepping out of his window and 
and flinging himself at the 

1300
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,680
pavement like like Jack Ryan's 
Powell. 

1301
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,040
At which at which point? 
Which point, you know, in 

1302
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:38,480
A202014 not too long after the 
financial crash, a little bit of

1303
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:44,200
it would have been like. 
Oh my God, no, the fucking the 

1304
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,480
the rights. 
Like the worst case scenario, 

1305
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,360
this financial crash happens. 
Jack Ryan's fuck boyfriend roll 

1306
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,760
the bank has started for the 
National Archives and they're 

1307
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:58,720
like, wait, I I as a bank have 
carried out so much corruption 

1308
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,800
nationally and internationally. 
Let's like, shoot themselves in 

1309
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:08,160
the fucking hair as a cute sick,
commit suicide and increasingly 

1310
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:12,040
gory ways which this film's 
budget would be better than the 

1311
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:13,520
way the Neil Breen film showed 
it. 

1312
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:18,720
They would like run into like 
the bank, they would, they would

1313
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,400
like run face 1st and like 
static chainsaws and stuff like 

1314
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,040
that, you know? 
So what they did? 

1315
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,840
That plot point doesn't really 
work if half of the people are 

1316
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,760
just waiting for the economy to 
crash so they can can afford a 

1317
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,080
house. 
Yeah, point of shit and the 

1318
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,920
money, it's like this isn't this
is the problem this movie is. 

1319
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,960
Actually worse than in the 20s. 
Can we just, can we just maybe 

1320
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,480
just kill the bankers anyway 
without terrorist plot? 

1321
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,480
This is the problem is that it's
it's too complicated for the 

1322
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,680
average movie goer to kind of 
really like an emotional handle 

1323
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,440
on because we're not watching 
margin call or like like the big

1324
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,920
short. 
Even I need I need a scene this 

1325
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:55,240
movie where Mogger Robbie in a 
bubble bath drinking champagne 

1326
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:59,480
explains to me like, like, like,
like why this is a bad thing? 

1327
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,000
Because, like, because like, 
unfortunately, like Kevin 

1328
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,520
Costner sat on a park bench in 
Moscow is not doing it for me. 

1329
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,040
Like I zoned out big time. 
I mean. 

1330
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,000
The thing is like they actually,
they actually talk about like 

1331
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,880
real kind of financial crime 
things like like dark pool. 

1332
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:17,840
Algorithms, algorithms and 
stuff. 

1333
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,360
So like, I did a little bit of 
reading in the dark pools. 

1334
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,480
I didn't fucking understand it 
at all, you know, I mean I'm 

1335
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,360
about to start a course on like 
anti money laundering and 

1336
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,000
financial crime and stuff and 
that's going to be a fucking 

1337
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,800
hangout When I do that. 
I've got to see how it's going 

1338
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:35,560
to be hard. 
But at the minute I don't fuck 

1339
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:38,280
about Dick about it. 
And because I'm the average 

1340
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,000
moviegoer at this point, you 
know when someone think of the 

1341
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:41,960
economy. 
Right. 

1342
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:43,640
Yeah. 
So, yeah. 

1343
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:47,000
So terrorist plot, Yeah, Yeah. 
So terrorist plot kicks in and 

1344
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,280
it turns out that there's, as 
you mentioned, a sleeper cell 

1345
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:53,200
operating in Pennsylvania or in 
Michigan, but apparently it's 

1346
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,600
like nobody bombs Pennsylvania. 
No, they're in Pennsylvania 

1347
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,560
because they've obviously moved 
from after they've been, they've

1348
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,800
been dicked, I think. 
Yeah, because it's that kind of 

1349
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,440
like bomb factory, like getting 
shifts. 

1350
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,280
It's like bomb factory stuff for
Pennsylvania. 

1351
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,160
He's got like, there's like a 
bit of a rat line this to this 

1352
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,680
like shack in Pennsylvania where
he's where he's going to make a 

1353
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:15,680
fucking Alfred Monroe Federal 
building style truck bomb, you 

1354
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:19,320
know, Oklahoma City redux. 
Another thing that didn't ever 

1355
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,920
make sense to me, but I guess 
kind of does if you read it 

1356
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,560
between the lines but isn't 
really said explicitly in the 

1357
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:28,880
movie, is that the young man, he
was the operative I guess, in 

1358
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,120
the cell, I think is meant to be
Chevron's son. 

1359
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,120
Yeah. 
The determinant when they're on 

1360
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,480
that flight back from Russia, 
when to do with the incredibly 

1361
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:41,640
rapid intelligence analysis. 
Indeed. 

1362
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,840
So all the bullshit that he was 
saying earlier on, my son died. 

1363
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:50,800
And when he's eight, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, it's, yeah, it's for

1364
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:52,480
Dunk. 
Like if you had access to that 

1365
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,640
already, then surely this is 
already swept up, right? 

1366
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,760
Like, like, OK, cool. 
Anyway, yeah. 

1367
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,920
So they determined that he is 
the guy and that they're going 

1368
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,120
to attack New York and Wall 
Street. 

1369
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,280
There's one really good bit 
where Anatoly during the plot 

1370
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,400
his determined is being followed
by like an FBI agent or 

1371
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,520
somebody. 
So he kills him, the knife finds

1372
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,680
his badge, finds his FBI and has
to go on the run. 

1373
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:17,000
But he turns up to his old work 
and the most incongruous thing 

1374
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,640
happens, which for British 
people is seeing Sinbad from 

1375
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,840
Brookside. 
Like, hey, how everyone's 

1376
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:24,720
looking for you. 
The. 

1377
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:28,320
FBI has been all over this 
place. 

1378
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,560
Please, what's going on? 
Are you in trouble or something?

1379
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,600
Says a guy who ordinarily has a 
really thick Scouse accent. 

1380
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:40,360
And then what's going on anyway,
right? 

1381
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,880
So then so Anatoly stabs him and
this is like weird little camera

1382
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,840
thing where it pushes in as you.
Get each of the fence dolly's in

1383
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:48,880
on him. 
Dolly's in. 

1384
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,680
Yeah. 
It's like, what the what? 

1385
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:51,280
The Movie. 
Was. 

1386
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,200
For a second, why did it like, 
yeah, Well, by this one shot in 

1387
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,880
this movie directed by Tony 
Scott, like what happened? 

1388
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,320
It's like, is, is, is this a 
forbidden fucking jutsu? 

1389
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,640
Because it's all of a sudden an 
anime scene, right? 

1390
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,080
Yeah, yeah. 
And it's like yeah, weird. 

1391
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,680
So yeah, Sinbad from from from 
brute side. 

1392
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:09,560
Hard to mention it. 
So strange. 

1393
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,760
Sangie, you want a Brookside? 
Brookside was a soap opera and 

1394
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,399
for a time in the United Kingdom
there was like each of the major

1395
01:08:16,399 --> 01:08:19,760
terrestrial channels had like 
one or two tentpole soap operas 

1396
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:21,479
going on. 
So you had like EastEnders, 

1397
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,200
Coronation Street, ITV, also 
that Emmerdale. 

1398
01:08:24,279 --> 01:08:27,840
But oh, coming in off the top 
rope was Channel 4 with its 

1399
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:31,080
attempt at this, which is 
Brookside, all set in a in a 

1400
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:35,279
cul-de-sac in Liverpool. 
Everything happened, everything 

1401
01:08:35,279 --> 01:08:37,560
went down. 
And like Brookside was like, I 

1402
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,319
mean, they're all pretty like 
far fetched, like dramatic 

1403
01:08:40,319 --> 01:08:42,000
stories. 
Coronation Street was probably 

1404
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,680
the least Coronation Street had.
Like every couple of years or so

1405
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,560
they would do like one big 
tentpole thing to try and like 

1406
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,600
reset the balance a bit. 
And if they had to like. 

1407
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:50,800
Someone would get murdered or 
something. 

1408
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,720
Yes, when we get murdered or 
there was like the famous train 

1409
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,760
crash and and like, yeah, there 
was nasty Nick and all that kind

1410
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,200
of stuff. 
This is like deep cultural law. 

1411
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,160
You're not going to, I'm not 
going to bother with you. 

1412
01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:02,640
But like, Emmerdale did the same
thing. 

1413
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:04,600
Emmerdale had its own version of
the Lockerbie crash. 

1414
01:09:05,319 --> 01:09:08,279
When an ally that crashed into 
the village pub, by the way. 

1415
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,960
That's not a joke, Sonya. 
That actually happened, yeah. 

1416
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:14,560
And I like I took out like 7 
major cast members were taken 

1417
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,800
out basically reframe Basically 
what happened was I watched an 

1418
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,720
incredibly long YouTube video 
about this several months ago. 

1419
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,840
I know right. 
So, So what what happened was 

1420
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,080
they they changed the filming 
location for like the, the the 

1421
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,800
village that Emmerdale was set 
in because before this point it 

1422
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,479
was called Emmerdale Farm and it
was like almost single camera 

1423
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,560
between different shots and they
didn't have a single location to

1424
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,160
wrap everything together. 
And then they got like their own

1425
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,600
basic like small village, which 
they had to secure the rights to

1426
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,720
like film or in and they had 
like sets built and stuff. 

1427
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,720
And they're like, we need to 
like rebuild and transition to 

1428
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,600
like the new Emmerdale. 
How we're going to do this? 

1429
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,720
We'll fucking drop a plane on 
the old one and then we'll and 

1430
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,440
then we'll like transition to 
the new Emmerdale on completion 

1431
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:56,680
anyway, right. 
That's a different show, 

1432
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:58,360
Brookside that. 
Kind of see that there was, 

1433
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:02,160
there was that iconic scene when
someone delivers Lane, Mr. Prime

1434
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,920
Minister, a second plane has hit
the Woolpack. 

1435
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:07,360
That didn't happen. 
That didn't happen. 

1436
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:10,280
So yeah. 
Oh what are you now a fucking 

1437
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:13,560
Woolpack truther? 
A fucking a fucking a fucking 

1438
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:17,320
1994 or whatever it was? 
Emmerdale plane crash truther? 

1439
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,840
I see what's going on here. 
This is not a conspiracy theory 

1440
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:22,480
podcast. 
I can't remember, I think it was

1441
01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:23,640
92. 
It was anyway. 

1442
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,680
Anyway, right? 
So Brookside was like the Scouse

1443
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:32,200
version, and it had a bunch of 
obviously Scows characters, same

1444
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,480
sort of level of drama. 
Key things from Brookside. 

1445
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,920
The United Kingdom's first 
lesbian kiss ever took place, 

1446
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:43,240
and it was Emma Freel you might 
know from Marcella. 

1447
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,720
It was Anna Freel, my wife. 
Is. 

1448
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:51,240
Emma Freel. 
It wasn't. 

1449
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,360
It wasn't, it was it wasn't. 
It wasn't Rory's wife. 

1450
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,480
It was the actress Anna Freel. 
Please leave that at the 

1451
01:10:57,480 --> 01:10:58,200
podcast. 
That's. 

1452
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:02,520
Different for real. 
Why are you surprised? 

1453
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,920
Yeah, so. 
She's not. 

1454
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:14,280
She's just to the CIA. 
Oh my God, Oh man. 

1455
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,160
And then, and then the only 
thing I was going to say after 

1456
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,160
this was this one thing that 
ties it back to our podcast, 

1457
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:24,040
which is in it was a who got her
start in acting was a young 

1458
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,640
actress called Lisa Faulkner, 
who I don't know if you remember

1459
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:30,080
Rory. 
She was like, I forgot who's 

1460
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:33,840
family she was in, but she had 
like a nose ring and it changed 

1461
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:38,960
my life. 
Yeah, when I saw her, I was 

1462
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,600
like, Oh my goodness. 
And then and then she would be 

1463
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,840
in the first episode of Spooks. 
Spooks was an amazing like show 

1464
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:48,480
on BBC about MI 5. 
And every week they'd be like a 

1465
01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:51,320
terror plot they've got to like 
unpack and resolve. 

1466
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,520
But the thing about Spooks was 
it was the first like big major 

1467
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:58,080
TV show, at least in the BBC, 
where like anyone could die. 

1468
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,000
Well, well before Game of 
Thrones. 

1469
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,880
So in the first episode you're 
introduced to this team that 

1470
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,040
you'll think is going to be like
the like bugs. 

1471
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:06,960
It's going to be the team that's
going to do what every week 

1472
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,000
bugs. 
And then and then in that first 

1473
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,440
episode, like Lisa Faulkner just
gets her head put into like a 

1474
01:12:11,440 --> 01:12:13,600
chip, like a deep fat fryer and 
it's just killed. 

1475
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,560
And there was brutal win. 
It's like, I guess she's on the 

1476
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,320
fucking team anymore. 
Yeah, real bad. 

1477
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,520
And then she would go on in real
life to Mario celebrity chef 

1478
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,480
John Turot and that's and win 
Slippery Master Chef and that's 

1479
01:12:23,480 --> 01:12:25,760
Lisa Faulkner. 
Anyway, right back to the movie.

1480
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:28,120
There's a fucking bomb 
underneath Wall Street. 

1481
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:29,760
I guess it's going to go off 
and. 

1482
01:12:30,440 --> 01:12:32,760
It's going to bring six to seven
buildings down. 

1483
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,040
You caught that right? 
Yeah, yeah, 6 to 6-7 are going 

1484
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:40,040
to get for a 6-7 building to get
again, a knockdown. 

1485
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:43,360
Jack Ryan stops it by stealing a
police van and having a fight 

1486
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,040
with Anatoly in the back of it 
and he crashes. 

1487
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,400
Cardio. 
Crashes off the dock into the 

1488
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,840
puds and I guess he. 
Borrows the fuck by motorcycle. 

1489
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:53,320
He does borrow the football 
motorcycle. 

1490
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:54,880
He does, yeah. 
That he's like super good at 

1491
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,080
driving. 
Don't worry, man, don't worry 

1492
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:58,160
about it. 
It's just Clancy, don't worry 

1493
01:12:58,160 --> 01:12:59,240
about. 
It it's just Clancy, don't worry

1494
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:00,840
about it. 
And then, yeah, the van crashes 

1495
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:04,720
into the organ and then a really
unnecessary big explosion effect

1496
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:07,280
happens and it looks a bit junky
and I don't like it very much 

1497
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:08,960
anyway. 
All the bad guys die. 

1498
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:11,360
There's a bit like some of All 
Fears. 

1499
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:15,160
There's a little clean up scene 
where Chevron gets killed by the

1500
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:19,440
FSB and it's Mikhil Porchikov. 
The ballet dancer shoots him. 

1501
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:23,640
Yeah, that's wild. 
Ratz Wilds, Burschakov even. 

1502
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:26,760
He's an interesting guy. 
He defected from the SSR in 

1503
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,240
1974. 
We had to see him playing in the

1504
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:30,480
FSB. 
But very fun. 

1505
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:32,400
So he shoots him. 
Shoots a guy who's going to die 

1506
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,200
anyway. 
Seems unnecessary. 

1507
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:36,320
I. 
Mean it's just like euthanasia 

1508
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:37,880
at this point, right? 
Yeah, yeah, exactly. 

1509
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:38,840
I put him out his misery. 
Yeah. 

1510
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,120
Like now your son actually is 
dead, you know, but OK. 

1511
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:47,640
And then there's a little scene 
where Jack Ryder Cafe or the 

1512
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,520
hospital, because Jack's all 
beaten up and they do a little 

1513
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,840
kind of their version of that 
bit and Britain's Lost Ark, 

1514
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:54,120
where she's like, where can I 
guess you were? 

1515
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:55,600
It doesn't hurt. 
He's like, I guess he doesn't 

1516
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,640
hurt, that kind of thing. 
And the very final scene of the 

1517
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:03,560
movie is Kevin Costner and Jack 
Ryan going like talking about a 

1518
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:04,360
meeting. 
That's what happened. 

1519
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,240
And he's like, if he doesn't ask
you about it, he doesn't want to

1520
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:08,920
know. 
Keep it short, keep it concise. 

1521
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,720
And did you ever get that Boy 
Scout on a field trip look off 

1522
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,000
your face? 
And he's like, no, that's one of

1523
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:15,160
the things I love about you, 
Jack. 

1524
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,320
And then they go into the the 
room and, uh oh, it's the Oval 

1525
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,000
Office. 
And he goes, nice to meet you, 

1526
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,240
Mr. President. 
I'm Jack Ryan. 

1527
01:14:22,440 --> 01:14:25,600
And it ends and it's like. 
My God, it's fucking President 

1528
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,400
Mitt Romney. 
Yeah, Yeah, that's it. 

1529
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,520
Yeah, Yeah. 
So, so the dude's voice is like 

1530
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,400
really clean, like a white dude.
And this came out in 2014 just 

1531
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:36,040
before the the 2015 sort of 
primary race for the 20 well, 

1532
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,400
end of 2015 elections in the 
2016 presidency, right. 

1533
01:14:38,440 --> 01:14:41,760
So before Trump. 
And this is from a simpler time 

1534
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,320
where everyone thought like a 
normal Republican would be on 

1535
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,840
the ballot, right? 
So to these guys who love the 

1536
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:50,560
CIA, love American 
manufacturing, and are deeply 

1537
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,000
passionate about having a white 
dude in the White House, 

1538
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,440
clearly, clearly put a guy there
whose voices sound like a bit 

1539
01:14:55,440 --> 01:14:57,680
like Dick Romney is my is my 
hypothesis. 

1540
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,800
I floated it past my wife 
yesterday and she was like, what

1541
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,000
are you based not on? 
I'm like vibes baby but just 

1542
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,400
vibes. 
Do you think we're going to 

1543
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,520
going to see like films like 
that where where they do a 

1544
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,800
Donald Trump like voice? 
Gosh, could you imagine? 

1545
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:12,880
What? 
What is the name? 

1546
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,080
It's Ryan. 
So oh, beautiful name. 

1547
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:17,320
Wonderful name. 
Somebody. 

1548
01:15:17,480 --> 01:15:20,080
Well, well, well, well. 
I mean, in this like version, 

1549
01:15:20,440 --> 01:15:23,880
him, him and his CIA boss go 
into the Oval Office and they 

1550
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:27,120
just got like bollocks by Donald
Trump acne against the Russians,

1551
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:28,840
right? 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1552
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,200
He's like, where are you? 
Dare you fucking idiots. 

1553
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,000
They killed your friends. 
He was a good man, very good 

1554
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:34,920
man. 
You killed him. 

1555
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,560
You like Raven? 
I like Raven. 

1556
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:43,360
I let him fuck my wife, rather I
all set him fuck all the porn 

1557
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:44,920
stars that I'm paying to have 
sex with. 

1558
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:47,520
He's great. 
He's going to make Russia great 

1559
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,280
again. 
He's going to make America smile

1560
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:50,840
again. 
Fucking hell. 

1561
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,440
Man. 
But instead they had like, they 

1562
01:15:53,440 --> 01:15:55,640
had like fucking Mitt Romney 
style drum. 

1563
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:58,400
Like at the time there was a 
Gangnam Style parody song, Mitt 

1564
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,440
Romney style Mitt, Mitt Mitt 
yellow. 

1565
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,760
I got a horse in the Olympics 
man, but I don't even watch him.

1566
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:11,280
Bad Mick Romney style. 
Jesus Christ. 

1567
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:15,080
So that was we kind of through 
the end there because it's just 

1568
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:16,760
a tight 90s. 
It's a standard kind of like 

1569
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:18,200
action movie. 
It didn't feel like a Tom Clancy

1570
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,560
movie to me. 
That could have and probably 

1571
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:24,440
should have made him more linked
to the FSB, not just a rich guy 

1572
01:16:24,480 --> 01:16:28,240
who's doing a little bit of kind
of dirty work on on their 

1573
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,480
behalf. 
Because on one hand, he's got 

1574
01:16:30,480 --> 01:16:35,320
the ability to set up sleeper 
agents and stuff and he's 

1575
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:37,680
obviously very, very wealthy and
very, very influential. 

1576
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:41,160
But also he's being captured a 
bit too much arm's length from 

1577
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,960
the FSB. 
And I wonder if this was kind of

1578
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:48,160
like because context of when the
film was made, Russia was 

1579
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:53,040
certainly being a shitty country
to people on on the global 

1580
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:57,480
stage. 2014 was when it's 
initial invasion of Ukraine 

1581
01:16:57,480 --> 01:16:59,920
began. 
And I think this film was out a 

1582
01:16:59,920 --> 01:17:01,840
little bit before that. 
Is that right? 

1583
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:03,400
Well. 
No, this is 20. 

1584
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,240
This is January 2014. 2014 there
you go. 

1585
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:08,800
So at this point, Russia has 
obviously it's. 

1586
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:12,200
Already started very. 
Shitty they've invaded Georgia 

1587
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,440
beforehand. 
There's 2018, 2008, sorry. 

1588
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,760
Yeah, there's, there's, there's 
been two Chechen wars, but I 

1589
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,480
think there was maybe this kind 
of the Russians are our friends 

1590
01:17:20,480 --> 01:17:23,320
now kind of thing, still still 
in, in Hollywood. 

1591
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,520
Yeah. 
To an extent, To an extent. 

1592
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,560
And I wonder if it's kind of 
let's make him just a guy who's 

1593
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:34,280
doing wet works for a certain 
nastier part of the government 

1594
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,960
because, you know, maybe we'll 
want to sell this film to 

1595
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,040
Russian language markets, you 
know? 

1596
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,600
Well, isn't it? 
I think they should have leaned,

1597
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,280
I think I mean, OK, they 
probably would have also some a 

1598
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:45,920
massive litigation, but they 
should have let a little bit 

1599
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,080
more heavily into him being 
basically rumour Abramovich, 

1600
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,800
right like that. 
'D be fucking amazing, actually.

1601
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:52,800
He just happens to own Chelsea 
as well. 

1602
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,680
It's like, you know what the 
film so much this movie in 

1603
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:57,760
England, then they could have 
easily, they could have easily 

1604
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,360
got away with that. 
Actually it's like, are you on 

1605
01:18:00,440 --> 01:18:03,680
generic English football club? 
Richmond AFC. 

1606
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,400
From Ted. 
Letter you, you, you come even 

1607
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,400
sit in executive box with me. 
We watch game of your 

1608
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:13,000
Anglosphere football. 
What would not have done to the 

1609
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:18,920
You're having an affair. 
It's a plot no it would have of 

1610
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:23,600
the psychotic wife getting on a 
plane to Moscow scene. 

1611
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:26,560
She's taking a domestic flight 
to Dearborn, MI instead. 

1612
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:30,160
That is a good like. 
Unannounced, gets on a Greyhound

1613
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:34,320
bus to the next town. 
You know what I love the energy 

1614
01:18:34,480 --> 01:18:37,360
that she thinks is having an 
affair, but she but she decides 

1615
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:40,920
to like do a red eye Greyhound 
bus to it, surrounded by like 

1616
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,800
screaming kids and people who've
got warrants and stuff like 

1617
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:45,720
that. 
It's like that the astronaut who

1618
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,880
like put on an A nappy and like 
drove across the country. 

1619
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,960
It's like confront her husband 
and these new misses. 

1620
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,800
Yes, incredible, incredible 
scenes. 

1621
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:57,600
So yeah, you could have you 
could have like had that kind of

1622
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,160
thing, couldn't you? 
In summary, hard agree, Mike. 

1623
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,440
The could have could have made 
them more government connected, 

1624
01:19:03,440 --> 01:19:05,360
yet they did not. 
And I think it's because, well, 

1625
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,040
you know, we're going to make it
like the, you know, maybe some 

1626
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,840
people aren't as villainous a 
nation as they used to be, 

1627
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:12,760
cough, cough. 
Cough cough. 

1628
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:14,720
France. 
France. 

1629
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:19,080
Wow, caught a budget and all. 
The ending, when the camera cuts

1630
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:22,600
away at the end of the film, was
just Emmanuel Macron taking his 

1631
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,960
fingers to the desk, going. 
Just. 

1632
01:19:26,440 --> 01:19:30,960
Bland. 
Like Nicholas Sarkozy and his 

1633
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:32,360
wife Carla Bruni? 
Yeah. 

1634
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,480
Fucking Sarkozy. 
It was like legitimately like 

1635
01:19:35,480 --> 01:19:38,320
Chevron maxing in real life, 
right? 

1636
01:19:38,480 --> 01:19:41,120
I mean, Sarkozy has become a 
fucking Bond villain. 

1637
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,840
You know what he did like 10 
days of prison or something that

1638
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,800
just walked out. 
It's like what even is with all 

1639
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,600
due respect to a French list, 
that's what even is France. 

1640
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:54,920
There's there's there is an 
insane document in your Netflix.

1641
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,880
I forget it's name but it's but 
it's like regarding the 

1642
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,800
apprehension of 2 French private
pilots who like allegedly 

1643
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:04,360
smuggled a load of coke into 
some Latin American country and 

1644
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,560
the French put on this egg 
special operation to get them 

1645
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:11,320
back. 
It was lead was arranged by some

1646
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:14,720
politicians, some MP and it was 
like kind of the tactical lead 

1647
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:16,480
on it. 
The John Clark of it was. 

1648
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:22,120
Basically fucking Jean Marie Le 
Pens big minder like he was 

1649
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:26,480
incredibly linked to air front 
Nationale and it's wild. 

1650
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:28,680
You should check it out. 
It's really fucking good. 

1651
01:20:29,480 --> 01:20:32,600
The everyman, isn't he? 
I mean, I suspect that's I mean,

1652
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:34,560
although you can't really be at 
the every man looking like Chris

1653
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:36,560
Pine. 
But but you know, I mean, I 

1654
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:40,600
think that's sort of the the 
idea of it is that it it is, as 

1655
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:44,280
I said before, instead of this 
kind of double O 7 character or 

1656
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:48,320
the kind of Jason Bourne, it is 
the guy that's kind of found in 

1657
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:52,520
the middle of something that he 
can't quite cope with and 

1658
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:56,440
friends that, you know, he can. 
So it's it's more along those 

1659
01:20:56,440 --> 01:21:01,760
lines than the kind of absolute 
trained killer, although he is 

1660
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:05,840
also a trained killer. 
So we've got some hot takes and 

1661
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:09,480
some mild takes, some cold takes
on the casting of this film. 

1662
01:21:09,480 --> 01:21:12,920
It's got big name actors at the 
top of the bill, doesn't it? 

1663
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:16,160
So we've got got Chris Payne who
has been in a lot. 

1664
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,800
Kevin Costner has been in a lot,
Keira Knightley, who's been a 

1665
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:20,040
lot. 
And we've covered Chris Payne 

1666
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,440
and Kevin Costner in previous 
episodes. 

1667
01:21:22,440 --> 01:21:25,960
So probably more fat looking at 
Keira Knightley in her work. 

1668
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:27,560
Right. 
I mean Keira Knightley. 

1669
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:30,960
You're a knightly. 
You mean Elizabeth Swan? 

1670
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,680
Much of course like a Shelvin 
try wearing your courses and 

1671
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:43,720
then just like fucking shoots 
them with multiple flintlock 

1672
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:48,560
pistols that you pulls out of 
you see that's an old turn 

1673
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,840
abandoned. 
She appears from the bushes and 

1674
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:52,760
merks them with a blonde eppos 
one of. 

1675
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:56,600
My favourite one of my favourite
bit of of movie commentary is 

1676
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:59,440
Keira Knightley talking to 
Orlando Bloom about the the 

1677
01:21:59,440 --> 01:22:02,240
first Pirates of the Caribbean 
movie, and she's talking about 

1678
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:04,960
how she'll have a stunt double 
run up a flight of stairs for 

1679
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,720
her in costume because Gore 
Vibinsky didn't want her falling

1680
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:09,920
over while running up a flight 
of stairs wearing a dress. 

1681
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:13,480
That's. 
Almost with Orlando Bloom. 

1682
01:22:13,480 --> 01:22:16,160
Wasn't that with a guy who plays
Commodore Norrington, who's like

1683
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:17,840
just sits there and looks at her
like. 

1684
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:20,160
Yeah, that's right. 
Yeah, people. 

1685
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:23,000
For running up the stairs. 
Oh, yeah, that's right. 

1686
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:23,440
Yeah. 
Sorry. 

1687
01:22:23,440 --> 01:22:24,720
It's Yeah, it's yeah, that's 
right. 

1688
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,120
It's Jack Davenport. 
You're absolutely right. 

1689
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,920
Yeah. 
That's that's almost as good as 

1690
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:32,320
Steven Seagal using a stunt 
double for walking scenes. 

1691
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:35,800
And you can just hear the 
powdered wig in his disgust, so 

1692
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,240
it's just like. 
You what? 

1693
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:41,200
So good. 
Angry powdered wig noises. 

1694
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:44,520
And then he tells me how he 
took. 

1695
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:46,800
Days to to. 
Try and learn how to fling 

1696
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,880
around his sword just in the 
background, but he's just out of

1697
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:53,440
shot and not in focus so nobody 
really sees it and he's 

1698
01:22:53,440 --> 01:22:55,520
disappointed that nobody pays 
attention to it. 

1699
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,440
I. 
Said fucking Mike Wazowski. 

1700
01:22:57,440 --> 01:23:00,320
Paid, covered by the barcode or 
whatever it is, and Monsters 

1701
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,720
Inc. 
This was so hard to do. 

1702
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,080
Nobody asked you to do this. 
Brilliant. 

1703
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:08,040
So good. 
Keira Knightley. 

1704
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:12,600
Obviously she's she's done some 
previous thriller Maxing. 

1705
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:17,040
She was in the film London Blvd 
in 2010, a crime thriller with 

1706
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:21,880
Colin Farrell, Michael Fillus 
and Ben Chaplin, known from the 

1707
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:26,640
first season of Game On before 
he dipped on Game On and went 

1708
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:31,880
for a serious ass film career. 
We have hit some obscure British

1709
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:33,800
TV series. 
Yeah, Sonya's not going to know 

1710
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:36,640
what Game On is it's awesome 
theme tune. 

1711
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:40,000
We're at family heaven. 
Jesus Christ, Yeah. 

1712
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,240
OK. 
OK, yeah, fucking. 

1713
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,640
Wheels on the bus, right? 
Keira Dudley. 

1714
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:47,600
Yeah, she was on a Tony Scott 
movie. 

1715
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:49,240
Yeah. 
Domino. 

1716
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:51,160
Domino we're. 
Going to do that eventually I 

1717
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:52,240
think where she puts an 
assassin. 

1718
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:55,040
I think we need to because, 
because you know what? 

1719
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:57,800
I haven't seen the film. 
It looks really fucking cool. 

1720
01:23:57,800 --> 01:23:59,240
I was. 
The ones that are going to Keira

1721
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:03,200
Knightly with guns, so I guess. 
I visceral memory of being at 

1722
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:08,440
when I was at uni and Preston 
2004 to 2006 seven. 

1723
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:11,560
There was like a giant big 
billboard immediately outside my

1724
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:16,320
window in my in my third year. 
And then I just remember like a 

1725
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:19,200
good like one month long stretch
of just being a giant pitcher of

1726
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,240
Keira Knightley. 
So everybody like there's Keira 

1727
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:25,200
Knightley, good morning, Keira 
Knightley and there's and 

1728
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,680
there's. 
That's incredibly city living 

1729
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:29,160
pill that. 
I actually love it. 

1730
01:24:29,480 --> 01:24:30,520
Yeah. 
Like that's like this. 

1731
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:34,040
This was a season of your life 
that was a neo noir kind of 

1732
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:36,440
film. 
What every morning you wake up 

1733
01:24:36,440 --> 01:24:37,760
your blinds? 
That's. 

1734
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,800
Like you're like Kieran 
Heightley's looking at me again.

1735
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:41,440
Oh. 
My God. 

1736
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,040
Yeah, it's like that bit. 
From from the new Blade Runner. 

1737
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:45,920
That's exactly it. 
That's not good, Joe. 

1738
01:24:47,480 --> 01:24:49,960
You look lonely. 
I can fix that. 

1739
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:54,400
God no, she couldn't fix that. 
She could make me worse. 

1740
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,560
Yeah. 
Yeah, she, she has been in quite

1741
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,440
a few pretty fucking great 
films. 

1742
01:25:02,440 --> 01:25:05,240
But then again, she is like one 
of the big actors in this movie.

1743
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,800
So I wouldn't look at like, like
I said, one of the ones like 

1744
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:09,520
below the lines kind of thing, 
you know? 

1745
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:15,320
Can we talk about Com Fiore? 
Yes, he plays Jack Ryan's boss 

1746
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:19,000
in this at Wall Street, at the 
Bank, Yes, but we saw him very 

1747
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:22,120
recently in the Summer of All 
Fears, as the South African arms

1748
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:24,800
dealer who gets his throat 
slipped by John Clark. 

1749
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,880
Yes, get in. 
That's all I want to say. 

1750
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:33,000
Fucking amazing. 
We have guys rule the top line. 

1751
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:36,920
Like I said, we've got 
Constantine, one of the one of 

1752
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:41,600
the local CIA team in Moscow as 
a guy called Len Kuldrovsky, 

1753
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:47,000
actually born in the USSR. 
This guy's done some major, 

1754
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,680
major thriller Maxing. 
He's done lots and lots of 

1755
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,560
German cinema. 
Intriguingly, I'm going to pull 

1756
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:55,880
some of these up and just like, 
run names of films by Sonia. 

1757
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:57,880
Actually, let's watch Sonia's 
reaction. 

1758
01:25:58,480 --> 01:26:02,680
Yeah, let's just fucking really 
quickly pull this guy's pedigree

1759
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:06,400
or land stuff he has done in 
German. 

1760
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:13,080
Katherine Wundt Vladimir was his
first role in ATV movie in 1996.

1761
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:18,000
No reaction. 
Yeah, no Russian fua Allah fella

1762
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:21,080
Stephanie TV series. 
No reaction. 

1763
01:26:21,480 --> 01:26:26,040
No reaction Operation Phoenix. 
A slight furrowing of the brow. 

1764
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:31,280
Slight furrowing of the Brow ATV
series from 1997. 

1765
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:35,880
I have no explanation of this at
all. 

1766
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:40,200
Hold on. 
When it first aired in 1997, it 

1767
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:44,160
was discontinued or discontinued
after only one episode. 

1768
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:48,000
Sonia was a baby. 
Yeah, Sonia was literally just 

1769
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:51,040
born. 
The remaining 10 did you to poor

1770
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:54,240
feedback and like, if you asked,
the remaining 10 episodes were 

1771
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:59,440
finally aired in 1999. 
Wow. 3 Of course he was in 

1772
01:26:59,440 --> 01:27:00,600
Babylon Berlin, by the way. 
Oh. 

1773
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,520
I was Babylon Berlin. 
Yeah, Babylon Berlin mentioned, 

1774
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:05,760
right, Look. 
Look this guy up. 

1775
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:10,200
Yeah, dear Koos, this guy Grass 
hoop fuzz? 

1776
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:11,680
Is that the kiss of the 
grasshoppers? 

1777
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:13,680
Sadly. 
The what Come again? 

1778
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:18,520
Dear Koos des Grass Hoop Fuzz. 
You know he was in. 

1779
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:20,800
I'm just looking up. 
You know he was in Tom Clancy's 

1780
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:24,360
Jack Ryan TV series, right? 
Yep it was indeed. 

1781
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:28,520
I was coming like saw Han 
Lichkin that was in the series 

1782
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:31,000
that had the Russians in it as 
as villains I believe. 

1783
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:32,480
This. 
Oh, I've not, I've not got off 

1784
01:27:32,480 --> 01:27:33,520
to that one yet. 
Right. 

1785
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,800
It is not the best. 
Yeah, it isn't the best. 

1786
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:40,480
He was like, I mean, this, this 
guy is like, Russian boxed in a 

1787
01:27:40,480 --> 01:27:42,640
lot of his characters for 
obvious reasons. 

1788
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:47,280
I love these TV movies that have
English and German in the title.

1789
01:27:47,440 --> 01:27:51,400
Starfighter Z Volten, Dan Himel.
Aeroburn. 

1790
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,480
Blinking. 
Blinking from the sun. 

1791
01:27:53,480 --> 01:27:56,200
Yeah. 
Yeah, I'm just getting German 

1792
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:59,120
pulled PTSD from Starfighters 
being mentioned. 

1793
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:02,160
We bought these and we decided 
to use them for close air 

1794
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:04,720
support instead of as an 
interceptor and then wondered 

1795
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:07,600
why everyone kept running their 
into the ground at Mach 3. 

1796
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:12,040
And so there there's an ongoing 
joke in in Germany that used to 

1797
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,640
go, if you want to buy a 
Starfighter, just buy an acre of

1798
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:18,160
land. 
Incredible. 

1799
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:21,200
Well Sonia, do I have a series 
summary for you? 

1800
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:26,400
Young pilots of the German Air 
Force only want to fly the new 

1801
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:30,760
Starfighter, but after a short 
time, more and more pilots crash

1802
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,400
and die, and the German 
government and the Air Force 

1803
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:37,280
cover up these incidents. 
And for synopsis it reads. 

1804
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:40,160
It looks like we don't have any 
synopsis for this title yet. 

1805
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:45,920
Amazing. 
Gemma Chan playing Amy Chang, 

1806
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:50,320
the other CIA officer involved 
in like the little surveillance 

1807
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:54,040
van thing who gets very, very 
few lanes. 

1808
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,400
Yeah, I remember. 
Which is a shame. 

1809
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:57,800
I'm a. 
Creator. 

1810
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,840
Yeah, she's a big run, humans. 
Big run. 

1811
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:03,680
That's that's right. 
She's going to be in the new 

1812
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:06,200
Double O 7 First light game by 
IO Interactive. 

1813
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:07,720
The hit, the hit the hit the 
hit. 

1814
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:09,600
My developers making their Bond 
movie game. 

1815
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:12,600
Sure, that'll be awesome. 
Looking forward to that. 

1816
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:14,640
Yeah, she was in Don't Worry 
Darling. 

1817
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:16,840
Yeah. 
And the Eternals. 

1818
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:19,560
Doctor Who as well, because 
yeah, she was the Eternals. 

1819
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:23,000
Sigh. 
She was in Doctor Who. 

1820
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:27,560
Like I think every every British
actor has to have go at that in 

1821
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:33,360
in one point. 
Elena Velikonova the the 

1822
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:37,960
assistant of Chevron, another 
Russian born a USSR born actor 

1823
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,920
in this film mainly worked in 
Russian TV and cinema. 

1824
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:45,280
Most recent role was in a PSP, 
the Russian remake of the TV 

1825
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,560
show Medium. 
Wow. 

1826
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:51,720
Which is a thing that exists. 
She was in that she was in that 

1827
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:56,280
sort of one season run in 2024, 
Jack Ryan shadow recruits one of

1828
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:58,840
the few Anglosphia films she's 
worked on. 

1829
01:29:59,480 --> 01:30:05,320
According to Wikipedia. 
In 2022, she was like, I'm 

1830
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:08,680
fucking off from Russia and 
literally fled to Ukraine and 

1831
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:12,000
moved to Kiev. 
So this was like a Russian 

1832
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:15,600
actually made it to Kiev, OK. 
Move. 

1833
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:20,760
So, yeah, like she was like, so 
she obviously took took the kind

1834
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:23,200
of the right side of history 
move there. 

1835
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:27,880
I think we can, we can all 
agree, maybe even the FSB 

1836
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:29,960
officer who probably has to 
listen to this because we do 

1837
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:34,640
have one listen. 
From Russia before he's turned 

1838
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:37,480
on his VPN. 
Fucking hell he has. 

1839
01:30:37,480 --> 01:30:40,600
Like, no, no, I am. 
I am Johnny Americansky. 

1840
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:45,120
Fuck the Dodgers. 
Yeah. 

1841
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:50,160
Can you? 
See by Vladimir Putin's red 

1842
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:54,680
light. 
So yeah, she she she's done a 

1843
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:58,280
bunch of Russian stuff, a lot of
comedies, a lot of serious 

1844
01:30:58,280 --> 01:30:59,640
stuff. 
She was in a film called the 

1845
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:03,000
best movie in 2008. 
And here is a summary. 

1846
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:08,440
Vatic Volnov dies on his own 
wedding of cannabis overdose and

1847
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:11,400
has to prove to God that he is 
worthy to enter heaven. 

1848
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:15,160
During this conversation with 
God's secretary, Vatic recalls 

1849
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:18,040
numerous memorable moments of 
his earthly existence. 

1850
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:23,240
It's like I'm the first man to 
die of wheat overdose. 

1851
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:28,240
I would I would stand up to hell
just for being so weak with his 

1852
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:30,440
drugs. 
The sleeper agent assassin 

1853
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:34,920
played by Alec Witkoff. 
Yes, another Slavic actor 

1854
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:36,440
playing a Slavic character. 
Holy shit. 

1855
01:31:36,440 --> 01:31:39,320
This film is Slav maxing with 
its costume, which is pretty 

1856
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:42,440
impressive because it's like a 
lot of these films, you'll see a

1857
01:31:42,440 --> 01:31:44,680
bunch of guys like kind of 
Branner. 

1858
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:52,400
He'll just don't don't have the.
Brass neck of that man, Yeah, to

1859
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:56,400
fill his movie with actual 
Eastern Europeans and Slavs and 

1860
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:59,080
then him to go. 
But I will play the big Russian 

1861
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:01,800
bad guy. 
I classically trained Kenneth 

1862
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:06,040
Branagh from from a Royal 
Shakespeare Company both to this

1863
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:11,720
Russian crime boss. 
Yeah, so Alec Ludkov, born in 

1864
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:16,080
Kiev, moved to the UK at an 
early age, obviously born the 

1865
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:18,800
Ukrainian SSR at the time that 
came that Dan got his 

1866
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:20,560
independence. 
After he moved here, I think he 

1867
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,520
was in slow horses. 
He isn't slow horses. 

1868
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:29,640
And he was in Mission Impossible
Rogue Nation as an A400 crewman.

1869
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:37,840
His his first his first role in 
Anything was playing Chief 

1870
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:40,440
Hacker in an episode of Spooks 
in 2010. 

1871
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:44,800
There we go, Spooks mentioned. 
A show that is now shown on the 

1872
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,280
IMDb is being called MI 5. 
I don't. 

1873
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:50,160
Know what it's about and this is
syndicated. 

1874
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:54,680
Probably syndicated in the 
States I imagine, but he's best 

1875
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:59,400
known as Doctor Alexi or Alexi 
in Stranger Things. 

1876
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:02,080
Assure that I've got no 
knowledge of at all. 

1877
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:04,600
It's a total cultural blind 
spot. 

1878
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:05,600
For. 
Me. 

1879
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:10,480
He's also in the show called 
River or was in a short river 

1880
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:14,080
with a friend of the podcast, 
Stalin Skarsgard, the man who 

1881
01:33:14,440 --> 01:33:18,480
burned his future for Sunrise. 
You'll never see the man who was

1882
01:33:18,480 --> 01:33:20,760
an arrogant ass and he killed 
us. 

1883
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:27,880
So that's that's like a guy 
who's gone from say gone. 

1884
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,520
He's gone from being a kind of 
major character in Jack Ryan 

1885
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:34,080
shadow recruit to being a 
fucking random pilot at the 

1886
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:37,560
start of Rogue Nation in the big
A400 stunt. 

1887
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:37,920
Right? 
Yeah. 

1888
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:39,800
Yeah, yeah. 
Oh that's cool. 

1889
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:44,040
Nonsu and Nosy played BB Deng. 
Yes. 

1890
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:46,600
He's done a lot of voice acting 
work. 

1891
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:51,600
Mandalorian, Doctor Who, he's 
done video game work for games 

1892
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:55,000
such as Brink, the game I'm 
aware of, Golden Compass, the 

1893
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:58,720
game I'm aware of, the flopped 
conflict denied OPS a game I'm 

1894
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:01,000
not aware of. 
But boy boy oh boy. 

1895
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:05,560
If it's got one word and a colon
and then 2 words after it, all 

1896
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:07,200
bets are off. 
Man, that's a fucking go. 

1897
01:34:08,440 --> 01:34:10,800
He opened his career with 
Thriller Maxing as well. 

1898
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:14,720
He was in Prime Suspect. 
He was in the 2011 Conan. 

1899
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:19,480
That I still think's good. 
He played Idi Amin in Seven Days

1900
01:34:19,480 --> 01:34:22,120
and Tabby. 
I think he's well cast in that. 

1901
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:24,680
I'm going to throw this to the 
Shakespearean boys in the team. 

1902
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:28,280
Do you think he was well cast as
Oberon in The Midsummer Night's 

1903
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:30,200
Dream? 
Yeah, probably. 

1904
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:32,760
I'll say he's got that kind of 
gravitas about. 

1905
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:33,960
Him. 
Yeah, I think so, yeah. 

1906
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:38,440
He played Samson in the biblical
miniseries The Bible. 

1907
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:42,160
I'm not getting shit fights 
about the casting of a series, 

1908
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:44,920
but the Bible stories. 
But I can see him pulling those 

1909
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:49,480
pillows down, man, you know, and
on a total domestic living 

1910
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:51,680
situation. 
My wife has been trying to cut 

1911
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:54,280
my hair all weekend. 
Do not to SAP my energy to. 

1912
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:56,880
SAP. 
My energy and last bit of 

1913
01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:59,960
casting, we've got Pieta 
Anderson, Smita Shaktar playing 

1914
01:34:59,960 --> 01:35:04,480
Dimitri Evans, head of security.
This guy's Swede Max, he's 

1915
01:35:04,480 --> 01:35:06,840
Nordic Pills. 
He was in fucking Wallander for 

1916
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:08,640
a start. 
Plus you can't get. 

1917
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:11,080
Yeah, yeah. 
You can't get more Nordic. 

1918
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:13,160
More than that. 
He was in all three of the 

1919
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:16,320
original. 
Another European, I was going to

1920
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:19,160
say another European accent kind
of runner feels confident that 

1921
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:22,400
he's that he can do. 
Yes, holy shit, the brass neck 

1922
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:24,600
of kind of bra man. 
I bet he. 

1923
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:27,280
Fucking, I bet he fucking goes 
to McDonald's drive through and 

1924
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:30,160
like all those things and like a
fucking Venezuelan accent or 

1925
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:33,160
something like that. 
And then and then he pulls up 

1926
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:37,360
the window and just like the 
audacity, the audacity of this 

1927
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:38,920
man. 
Kenny B What the hell? 

1928
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:43,200
Kenny B? 
But yeah, Anderson was in all 

1929
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:47,760
three of the Swedish versions of
the girl with the XYZ tattoo 

1930
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:51,640
girl, The drum tattoo girl Who? 
Playing one of the one of it to 

1931
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:53,520
the fire. 
Antagonists. 

1932
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:57,600
He was in it's spin off TV 
series Millennium and he's 

1933
01:35:57,600 --> 01:36:00,840
recently was in a drama series 
called Estonia about the sinking

1934
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:04,960
of the Ms Estonia that I would 
prefer not to watch because that

1935
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:06,200
would be harrowing. 
Yeah. 

1936
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:10,040
Fucking harrowing. 
So yeah, there goes some 

1937
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:13,480
interesting notes, I think about
the casting weapons free. 

1938
01:36:13,480 --> 01:36:16,120
It isn't like a super, super gun
heavy film. 

1939
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:19,880
I do like the kind of quite 
silly gun check table they have 

1940
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:23,200
at the airport, like. 
They're just lying there. 

1941
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:26,480
They're just lying. 
On a fucking folding table 

1942
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:30,720
magazines out next to them on 
under the gaze of some probably 

1943
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:37,080
underpaid civil servants you 
know and like DB Deng retrieves 

1944
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,800
as as ACZ 100 from it. 
There's some other stuff on 

1945
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:41,080
there. 
There's there's some kind of 

1946
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:43,880
parata. 
There's there's an IMI sorry, 

1947
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:50,440
iwi Jericho. 
And what like about this is when

1948
01:36:50,440 --> 01:36:56,080
he gets to the hotel, he puts a 
suppressor on it at some point. 

1949
01:36:56,760 --> 01:37:00,680
So Jack Ryan doesn't really 
leave a sight. 

1950
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:03,960
So he doesn't leave Jack Ryan's 
sight really on Jackie Boy walks

1951
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:11,320
ahead of him in the hotel. 
So we can assume that when he's 

1952
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:14,640
turned his pistol in to the, to 
the border guards or whatever, 

1953
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:17,720
right, he's kept the suppressor 
on his pocket. 

1954
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:20,480
So he's like going through like 
fucking security cheques with 

1955
01:37:20,480 --> 01:37:23,160
just this fucking can just in 
his trousers. 

1956
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:25,960
And they're like, what's that? 
And he's like, oh, it's just a, 

1957
01:37:26,480 --> 01:37:30,240
it's just a Ugandan oil philtre.
Don't worry about it. 

1958
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:33,960
He has, he has fucking 20 rubles
for the value of about 7 cents 

1959
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:35,920
or something. 
It's got whatever, we don't 

1960
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:38,680
care. 
Fucking love that sidearm is a 

1961
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:42,200
hack run cock USP. 
Now we've established in Canon 

1962
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:46,440
of the show that the G36 is the 
rifle of cunts, right? 

1963
01:37:47,440 --> 01:37:50,120
Very few decent people in these 
films or throughout films in 

1964
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:55,440
general seem to use the G36. 
However, we don't have the data 

1965
01:37:55,440 --> 01:37:59,360
yet to show if hack run cock 
make sidearms exclusively for 

1966
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:01,800
cunts in movies as well. 
Sonia, what's your service 

1967
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:03,520
pistol? 
I have to check who actually 

1968
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:06,320
produces that piece of fuck. 
Come. 

1969
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:11,040
The main issue with the with the
P8 is that it's too big for most

1970
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:11,720
people. 
I have. 

1971
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:13,400
A very big, they're very big 
aircraft, yeah. 

1972
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:17,040
Yeah, yeah, exactly. 
I have. 

1973
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:19,880
I have, I have hands the size of
frying pans. 

1974
01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:23,920
But most people don't. 
And it's got a rather large 

1975
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:27,920
trigger weight if you compare it
to to every other service pistol

1976
01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,840
available to anyone else, 
especially if you compare it to 

1977
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:35,040
German police weapons. 
And always fun, because this 

1978
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:38,720
leads to mostly women not being 
able to use the damn thing, 

1979
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:40,640
probably because their hands are
just too small. 

1980
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:43,040
But yeah, it's. 
It's accessibility issue. 

1981
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:46,200
HK yeah. 
There we go. 

1982
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:49,120
So Sonia's. 
Sonia's certified Not a cunt so 

1983
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:51,680
however. 
You say not now, just give me 5 

1984
01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:54,440
minutes. 
I'm shifting it a cunt. 

1985
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:59,040
I am a terrible pistol marksman 
as well, so that's not. 

1986
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:02,480
I mean, you know, if you're 
using a pistol, the situation's 

1987
01:39:02,480 --> 01:39:04,720
gone too far, right? 
I mean, you use your pistol to 

1988
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:07,320
fight where the enemy's rifle or
whatever they say, you know so. 

1989
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:11,200
I'm a Navy man, I use the pistol
to blow my brains on so I don't 

1990
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:13,880
capture. 
It just like lies down on the 

1991
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:17,040
fucking like naval head sight 
himself. 

1992
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:23,400
Oh, Hans Lansdorf mentioned. 
I have the behind me. 

1993
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:26,680
Jesus. 
Fucking Christ. 

1994
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:31,280
What was that? 
Was that just do we just do a 

1995
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:32,560
reference to the pocket 
battleship? 

1996
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:34,320
Grass Bay? 
Oh my God. 

1997
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:36,440
Whoa. 
Back too soon. 

1998
01:39:36,440 --> 01:39:37,920
I. 
Mean we've talked about like 

1999
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:39,520
911. 
So I think we talk of the grass 

2000
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:40,960
at this point. 
I don't think it's too. 

2001
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:42,520
Soon might be for real though. 
In which? 

2002
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:45,080
In which situation? 
In the Navy? 

2003
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:47,360
Yourself. 
Do you see yourself needing a 

2004
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:49,720
handgun if you're not part of a 
boarding Team I? 

2005
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:53,000
Was going to say unless I'm in a
boarding team I don't know 

2006
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:59,720
representative sport. 
Possibly actually a fun time. 

2007
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:04,560
Last fun fact, last time I had a
handgun mentioned, one ship was 

2008
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:08,600
during trying to do annual 
handgun qualifications at sea 

2009
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:12,160
and it took about 1 shooter for 
the first which came to fall 

2010
01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:14,880
into the Baltic Sea. 
Beautiful. 

2011
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:17,920
Stuff and I was sat in the OPS 
room at the time and we're just 

2012
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:22,040
watching the the firing drills 
through the flight deck camera 

2013
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:24,120
and we're just something like, 
did he just. 

2014
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:27,000
He did. 
There's nothing better. 

2015
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:30,400
There's nothing better than than
watching someone fuck up at work

2016
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:33,080
but through a camera feed where 
you have nothing to do with the 

2017
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:36,240
evolution. 
Yeah, I love that on the bridge 

2018
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:38,960
of a worship boards watch watch 
the aft deck camera. 

2019
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:43,200
Surely the William Lambie David 
slew in board one of our sea 

2020
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:45,920
foxes the training round and 
just watch the fall out of the 

2021
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:49,040
fall out of it's like launcher 
onto the deck. 

2022
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:50,880
It's like, So what the fuck 
that? 

2023
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:54,160
But it wasn't me. 
It's like watching a very mild 

2024
01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:57,200
version of LiveLeak where it's 
just people having embarrassing 

2025
01:40:57,200 --> 01:40:58,880
accidents. 
It's not people like being 

2026
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:02,240
gunned down in like the streets 
of Mexico City, that kind of 

2027
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:02,760
thing. 
Yeah. 

2028
01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:06,440
And just just last bit like a 
pistol maxing and like 

2029
01:41:06,440 --> 01:41:08,440
storytelling. 
I think it's actually because I 

2030
01:41:08,440 --> 01:41:10,480
always say that like with like 
the armouring of these films 

2031
01:41:10,480 --> 01:41:14,440
that often like a kind of odd 
stuff for the story, that's it's

2032
01:41:14,440 --> 01:41:16,960
mainly aimed at people like me 
who were like undiagnosed. 

2033
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:21,560
But something's not right and. 
By the way, I'm using T-shirt 

2034
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:25,640
for me, for you Mike, probably 
as well the screen crop, it just

2035
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:32,160
says diagnosed for me. 
Luckily, looking at our YouTube 

2036
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:34,640
figures, nobody watches this, so
it's all right. 

2037
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:37,840
We'll put so much fucking visual
humour in what goddammit as well

2038
01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:39,120
that's. 
Probably a bad thing for a 

2039
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:40,840
podcast dude. 
We'll check it out. 

2040
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:43,320
Can you? 
Audibly wear a costume. 

2041
01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:46,160
We need audio kind of 
descriptions, right? 

2042
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:48,400
But it's got to be Brian Blessed
doing it. 

2043
01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:54,040
We Oh my God, we should, we 
should do like Shakespeare scene

2044
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:58,840
or stage directions like Enter 
Rory wearing a green shirt. 

2045
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:02,080
I have a delivery coming. 
Excellent. 

2046
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:05,640
What you egg so? 
It's an Internet connection. 

2047
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:08,480
So don't. 
Don't fucking jinx it. 

2048
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:12,280
Let's move this thing along 
before it happens. 

2049
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:14,560
See, I've asked, but like I 
said, a little bit like a little

2050
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:18,480
bit of a bit of kind of 
storytelling is the only like 

2051
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:21,880
really representation of Soviet 
weapons apart from like an AKS 

2052
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:26,360
74 you you briefly see at the 
airport is Trivium gets iced 

2053
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:30,400
with a suppressed Makarov. 
And that's like the the old 

2054
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:33,560
school Soviets getting rid of 
the guy who's done the wet work,

2055
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:37,560
Baryshnikov. 
This fucking turns up an Icism. 

2056
01:42:38,480 --> 01:42:42,520
I have a fun fact about Russians
doming people with Russian guns,

2057
01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:49,440
by the way. 
The KGB used to be just internal

2058
01:42:49,440 --> 01:42:53,360
things and their main job used 
to be just doming people in 

2059
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:57,160
prisons, and they tended to use 
Russian guns for that. 

2060
01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:59,320
But Russian guns in that time 
were shit so they actually 

2061
01:42:59,320 --> 01:43:01,640
bought German guns. 
Holy. 

2062
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:04,720
Fuck, so they were actually 
using PPKS to Dome people in 

2063
01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:06,560
prisons? 
Bloody hell. 

2064
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:10,720
Technically, shooting someone 
with a Makarov isn't very 

2065
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:14,560
Russian Secret Service. 
Yeah, but it's like Soviet Union

2066
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:15,920
coded. 
But you're totally right there, 

2067
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:17,360
Miss. 
You're you're. 

2068
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:22,760
We are shooting so many people 
so fast the guns jam doesn't 

2069
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:24,080
leave. 
Does someone have a gun that 

2070
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:29,800
doesn't jam? 
German efficiency The NKVD 

2071
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:33,360
officers who killed the Romanov 
family used Browning pistols. 

2072
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:35,200
Oh man, yeah. 
There you go. 

2073
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:38,120
America mentioned, American 
industrial complex mentioned 

2074
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:41,880
Yeah, Baryshnikov is in the film
that was filmed near where you 

2075
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:43,880
work. 
It was a film called White 

2076
01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:47,360
Knights and it was filmed in 
Campbeltown at the air base 

2077
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:49,200
there of. 
Course, Yeah, well, it's an 

2078
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:50,800
airport now, but yeah. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2079
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:54,160
So that that that was a friend 
and former guest to the podcast,

2080
01:43:54,160 --> 01:43:55,920
Jen Messers. 
One like, holy shit, there was 

2081
01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:58,440
this film. 
It's a kind of your ally kind of

2082
01:43:58,440 --> 01:43:59,600
thing. 
It's like thrill movie that was 

2083
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:03,280
filmed like where I'm where 
where my moms from, you know, 

2084
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:04,640
so. 
That's wild, though. 

2085
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:06,240
I keep getting that. 
Moms from Campbellton. 

2086
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:07,880
I'm there always. 
I'm driving there immediately 

2087
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:08,560
after this call. 
Yeah. 

2088
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:12,920
Yeah, yeah, just go go fucking 
say hi, your Jones extended 

2089
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:15,520
family when you're there and 
like, hey, she's not a podcast, 

2090
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:16,640
why don't you start listening? 
To it. 

2091
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:19,360
I did have a funny, funny 
Americans moment in Campbelltown

2092
01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:21,360
last week when I was in a fish 
and chip shop and there's two 

2093
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:24,280
American tourists there talking 
to the guy and the guy owns the 

2094
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:25,640
fit shop. 
It's like they're like a 

2095
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:27,960
Bangladeshi family. 
And they were talking for a few 

2096
01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:29,840
minutes. 
The wife had to step out and get

2097
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:31,720
some cash and come back and she 
was talking to me. 

2098
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:34,720
When she came back, she was 
like, he was like, I've just 

2099
01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:37,680
been talking to the guy and she 
was like, oh cool, where is he 

2100
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:40,320
from? 
And then he went, I don't know. 

2101
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:42,320
And it was like, mate, you were 
talking to her about Bangladesh 

2102
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:44,040
for like 5 minutes. 
I stood right here, listen to 

2103
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:47,360
the whole thing. 
You've already like brain dumped

2104
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:48,560
it. 
What the fuck? 

2105
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:52,080
And then it's like so rude. 
And then Oh my God. 

2106
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:53,840
And then the woman, because 
she's never been on a chip trip 

2107
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:55,240
before and doesn't know how it 
works. 

2108
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:57,520
Obviously just go in there, you 
ask for what you haven't and 

2109
01:44:57,520 --> 01:44:58,720
then you pay for it when it's 
already. 

2110
01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:00,960
But because she wasn't given a 
ticket and there wasn't a 

2111
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:03,480
fucking McDonald's screen that 
said like collect your order or 

2112
01:45:03,480 --> 01:45:04,920
anything. 
She's she went back up to the 

2113
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:07,120
counter was like, do I have to 
order again? 

2114
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:09,640
I was like, it's good. 
Tuesday evening, kind of calm 

2115
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:12,680
down. 
Oh my God. 

2116
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:15,280
Like, yeah, amazing cultural 
differences. 

2117
01:45:16,240 --> 01:45:19,840
So yeah, weapons. 
Quotes Who's got any good bars 

2118
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:22,240
from this film? 
I was just going to ask Mike, 

2119
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:26,520
since we've talked about Ryan's 
CIA bosses position on in the 

2120
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:30,120
organisation before that guy 
gets on a sniper rifle, do you 

2121
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:33,920
know any commanders you trust 
around a sniper rifle? 

2122
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:36,240
Because I can't think of a 
single one. 

2123
01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:38,520
Yeah, I was going to think about
like a yeah, U.S. 

2124
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:42,480
Navy, like 3 ring commander 
come, but with a sniper rifle. 

2125
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:45,000
Jesus Christ. 
Yeah, that's seriously 

2126
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:48,240
dangerous. 
Yeah, that's like battleship 

2127
01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:52,080
levels of plot nonsense. 
She's paid Officer Rihanna 

2128
01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:54,360
running the Yeah butter the 
minigun. 

2129
01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:58,760
At least we don't ever seen when
he assembles it from its fucking

2130
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:02,920
component parts, puts a scope on
it, doesn't even bore sight or 

2131
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:06,960
anything, and is immediately 
perfect and got to go. 

2132
01:46:07,440 --> 01:46:09,360
So you have quotes from the film
bars? 

2133
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:12,280
I think the quote about being 
it's it's a QP dog. 

2134
01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:15,640
Quasi personal. 
I took it from someone's yard. 

2135
01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:18,520
I'm paraphrasing but that was 
good. 

2136
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:21,640
That was a bar. 
Yeah, I don't think, I think 

2137
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:23,160
it's like epically written 
enough for it. 

2138
01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:24,960
I have like loads and loads of 
bars, but like there's lots of 

2139
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:29,000
stuff that's weird, like the I'm
in the CIA, thank God. 

2140
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:33,080
And like the reaction to that, 
Different time, different 

2141
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:35,800
empire, same graveyard. 
That's pretty cool I guess. 

2142
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:37,960
I mean, The thing is when when 
most people look at the room, 

2143
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:41,000
did you know that I know the 
Afghanistan's graveyard 

2144
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:43,880
vampires, man. 
It's a bit like guy down the pub

2145
01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:46,920
who's like listen to runs like 
the one guy in the gym who gives

2146
01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:49,760
you shit and he can't lift man, 
and you got to punish him. 

2147
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:52,560
That kind of shit kind of. 
Brana does actually sound kind 

2148
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:54,120
of cool and wise. 
There's another one. 

2149
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:55,600
Yeah. 
So kind of Brana sells a lot of 

2150
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:57,720
this dialogue for all the sass 
we've given him today. 

2151
01:46:57,800 --> 01:46:59,800
Yeah, he does do pretty well 
with what he's got. 

2152
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:02,240
Kathy Miller, if if we're going 
to be married, I like to know 

2153
01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:04,040
that I can trust him. 
Victor Shevrin. 

2154
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:08,320
Trust truth, I think is like. 
I think it's like most opinions.

2155
01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:10,440
Best unexpressed. 
Yeah. 

2156
01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:11,960
Sorry. 
That's good. 

2157
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:13,760
Oh, Jack Ryan. 
Jesus, you weren't kidding. 

2158
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:16,440
You are in the CIA, Harper. 
Somebody has to be. 

2159
01:47:16,760 --> 01:47:19,200
Someone has to be. 
Someone has to be. 

2160
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:23,960
It's a living. 
It's a fucking living, right? 

2161
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:27,240
Victor Cheravin. 
I liked where our. 

2162
01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:30,440
You flew all the way to Moscow 
to surprise him or to catch him,

2163
01:47:30,440 --> 01:47:31,640
which was. 
I like that. 

2164
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:35,560
I like that regret. 
It piles up around us like books

2165
01:47:35,560 --> 01:47:37,360
we never read. 
Oh, that's good. 

2166
01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:39,360
Actually I like. 
That that is actually a fucking 

2167
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:40,560
bar. 
Very poetic and. 

2168
01:47:40,840 --> 01:47:43,200
And it kind of like kind of 
pushes him. 

2169
01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:45,240
It's like this very intellectual
kind of guy. 

2170
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:47,760
He was always like aware that 
time was fucking short from. 

2171
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:51,800
So that is a decent little line.
Oh, this is a good one actually,

2172
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:54,240
from Com Fiore. 
Who's his boss, Rob Behringer. 

2173
01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:56,960
Viktor Scheffern is completely 
unpredictable and it's, and it's

2174
01:47:56,960 --> 01:47:58,520
Russia. 
Insider trading is legal over 

2175
01:47:58,520 --> 01:47:59,520
there. 
It's the Wild West. 

2176
01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:03,000
They're still ideologues, but 
the new ideology is money. 

2177
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:05,400
They're not a country, they're a
corporation, which is why we're 

2178
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:08,080
here in the 1st place. 
I don't, I know I don't, don't 

2179
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:09,760
rock the boat, Behringer. 
It's not a boat. 

2180
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:12,400
It's a goddamn luxury yacht. 
And we're all together, so don't

2181
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:15,240
fucking sink us. 
It's Roman Abramovich's luxury 

2182
01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:18,000
yacht with the fucking sea Wiz. 
System on it. 

2183
01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:23,520
So yeah, I think that's decent. 
Sonia, any, any bars from you? 

2184
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:25,040
Any good quotes that you 
enjoyed? 

2185
01:48:26,440 --> 01:48:29,280
No, I, I, we, you've covered it 
pretty much. 

2186
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:32,720
I think overall this film was 
fairly unquotable. 

2187
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:35,800
Yeah. 
There is one more Amy, Amy Chan.

2188
01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:40,360
It's like when when Chevron like
leaves the building, she's using

2189
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:41,920
all the code words. 
She goes exit. 

2190
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:44,280
Snowball is rolling. 
Yeah, and. 

2191
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:46,640
That's a what? 
Doable. 

2192
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:49,200
I like it. 
And also they have they have 

2193
01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:51,800
they have like a bird code name,
don't they? 

2194
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:55,640
As well like the units got a 
bird related code name, which is

2195
01:48:55,640 --> 01:49:01,240
very Condor pill. 
And also going back to my 

2196
01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:04,160
absolute adoration of Mary Pat 
Foley from the from the Tom 

2197
01:49:04,160 --> 01:49:08,560
Clancy, Jack Ryan novels, all of
the agents she ran had bird code

2198
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:10,720
names like Cardinal of the 
Problem, etcetera. 

2199
01:49:11,480 --> 01:49:14,280
So this is just another post 
from Rory, the chief of the Mary

2200
01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:16,440
Pot Foley Fan Club. 
One thing annoyed me. 

2201
01:49:16,440 --> 01:49:18,560
He's cool. 
Oh, that's yeah, that's cool. 

2202
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:19,600
Sorry. 
One thing annoyed me, which is 

2203
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:22,640
when Jack Ryan pieces together 
that it's a diversion, the 

2204
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:23,840
bomb's going to be somewhere 
else. 

2205
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:26,000
Think he goes, it's a diversion.
The painting in Chevron's 

2206
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:27,760
office, it's right out of 
Napoleon's playbook. 

2207
01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:29,920
It's Waterloo. 
And I'm like, he fucking lost 

2208
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:31,480
Waterloo. 
He. 

2209
01:49:31,480 --> 01:49:34,120
Famously lost Waterloo. 
That's not like a strategic 

2210
01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:38,280
genius that was a second run son
of. 

2211
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:42,480
A bitch. 
It's his dad son's birthday. 

2212
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:46,920
He always destroys the American 
economy in the bottom half of 

2213
01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:51,480
the hour. 
Biggest missed opportunity this 

2214
01:49:51,480 --> 01:49:56,920
film the the Domingo Chavez 
Missed Opportunity Award. 

2215
01:49:57,440 --> 01:49:59,240
Now I've got a few, but you guys
go first think. 

2216
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:02,520
The Heists wasn't in an 
interesting enough building, you

2217
01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:04,040
know what I mean? 
Like they could have staged that

2218
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:06,680
in a more interesting location. 
So the restaurant was just like 

2219
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:08,880
a restaurant. 
The building he has is just a 

2220
01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:11,600
building and he's got like his 
logo, all of the walls and stuff

2221
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:14,720
inside it's. 
A shit logo as well by the way. 

2222
01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:17,920
It looks like a fucking secret 
sigil you see outside in Vampire

2223
01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:20,920
nightclub in Blade. 
I was thinking, as I often do, 

2224
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:23,240
like in terms of what would be a
good hitman level. 

2225
01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:26,560
And the good hitman level for 
this right is like the Kremlin 

2226
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:28,400
itself, right? 
I know that you obviously can't 

2227
01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:30,000
do it in the Kremlin because 
he's not part of the 

2228
01:50:30,440 --> 01:50:32,280
establishment, he's not part of 
the government or whatever. 

2229
01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:35,080
But I was also thinking about 
what what's one of the most 

2230
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:38,080
maligned hitman levels, which is
that one in Colorado where it's 

2231
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:41,240
just like a terrorist training 
camp in the middle of like rural

2232
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:43,560
America? 
I don't know. 

2233
01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:46,480
No, I just didn't feel like the 
middle of efforts like go to 

2234
01:50:46,480 --> 01:50:49,320
Russia and go to Moscow, and I 
feel like they didn't use it 

2235
01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:51,520
well off. 
I mean, will it be like the 

2236
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:54,040
film, that particular scene that
buildings in London of? 

2237
01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:56,960
Course it is. 
Yeah, I mean the film, the car 

2238
01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:59,360
chase scenes in Liverpool. 
Brilliant. 

2239
01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:00,360
Yeah. 
There you go. 

2240
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:02,120
This one talking about like, 
that's cool. 

2241
01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:03,440
That's like moving magic or 
whatever. 

2242
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:05,160
But like if you're gonna, if 
you're gonna have the whole 

2243
01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:07,760
thing of having Moscow there, 
like don't just have it be like 

2244
01:51:07,760 --> 01:51:10,360
set dressing for like a couple 
of key scenes, like fold it into

2245
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:11,840
the plot properly. 
There's the same thing on 

2246
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:14,720
Firefox where they had like they
filmed Mr in Vienna, didn't 

2247
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:15,800
they? 
Then had like a few shots. 

2248
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:18,760
That were like, I think in in 
like Czech Republic or Finland 

2249
01:51:18,760 --> 01:51:21,480
or something like that. 
Yeah, I mean, but that was like 

2250
01:51:21,480 --> 01:51:23,920
real, real, real fucking hate 
the Cold War kind of shit. 

2251
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:26,240
They couldn't even get like 
AK-40 sevens and any like real 

2252
01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:29,160
numbers to to like equip the 
actors used Finnish Valmet 

2253
01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:30,000
rifles. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2254
01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:32,560
Yeah, so I don't know, I just I 
just felt like that was the 

2255
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:35,440
thing I think I think I think 
our earlier points about folding

2256
01:51:35,440 --> 01:51:38,800
the sleeper cell plot more into 
the movie because I thought is 

2257
01:51:39,320 --> 01:51:40,480
easily the more interesting 
film. 

2258
01:51:40,480 --> 01:51:43,840
If I was going to watch like a 
multi series TV show, like, I 

2259
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:46,640
don't know, like the Americans, 
like what, what would I prefer 

2260
01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:49,040
to watch it about? 
Like this financial box or 

2261
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:53,960
sleeper sleeper agents in like 
industrialised America in in in 

2262
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:55,640
the five of the states. 
That's really interesting. 

2263
01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:57,800
Yeah, and and it's like, that is
interesting. 

2264
01:51:57,920 --> 01:52:00,640
I've got a thing I'm just going 
to kind of swing into regarding 

2265
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:04,040
the locations as well, because I
think a missed opportunity was 

2266
01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:07,520
to have more location shoots in 
the places that they're meant to

2267
01:52:07,520 --> 01:52:09,720
be. 
Because I think some points 

2268
01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:13,280
really does show that. 
A lot of it was filmed in 

2269
01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:15,840
England. 
The forest scenes clearly feel 

2270
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:19,000
very English. 
I did get some interesting 

2271
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:23,520
location notes. 
I'm going to quickly divert into

2272
01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:27,400
super, super quick. 
So I said there's a bare minimum

2273
01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:31,880
of US location shots. 
A lot of the New York stuff is 

2274
01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:37,440
London, a lot of the Moscow 
stuff is London and Liverpool 

2275
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:41,320
and Dearborn, MI scenes are shot
in South Hatfield in 

2276
01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:45,480
Hertfordshire. 
The the church is the Church of 

2277
01:52:45,480 --> 01:52:49,640
Saint John and the strip ball is
the old South Hatfield shopping 

2278
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:52,080
parade. 
And now the thing that kind of 

2279
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:54,200
made me go to rabbit hole on 
this is like the kind of goofs 

2280
01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:57,560
section or IMDb size. 
There's a National Lottery sign 

2281
01:52:57,560 --> 01:53:01,000
visible during the scene when 
the young sleeper agents had run

2282
01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:03,800
in to catch the FBI guy in 
Shankham. 

2283
01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:06,840
And it is like, you still like 
the National Lottery kind of 

2284
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:09,800
like circular signs taking off. 
It's got an M on it now for 

2285
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:13,720
Michigan, I guess. 
Yeah, it could be you. 

2286
01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:16,960
The sleeper agent could be you. 
You might not even know that. 

2287
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:19,560
Use The Winter Soldier 
activation words on you. 

2288
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:22,640
They might just say I'm tired of
this orgasm when you become like

2289
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:25,040
a killing machine. 
But I did like a quick bit of 

2290
01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:30,920
like super undiagnosed looking 
into things about this bit of 

2291
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:34,400
set dressing because they really
did go all out and go quite hard

2292
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:36,640
making this look like an 
American strip mall with all its

2293
01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:39,320
like shop fronts and stuff. 
And it does look quite legit. 

2294
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:42,200
And I think there's a goof on 
the iron baby gives it a bit of 

2295
01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:44,400
short shrift and says, oh, look,
these fucking idiots are still a

2296
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:48,200
National Lottery signal. 
The signs fully changed, but I 

2297
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:49,920
found it online. 
I found the location. 

2298
01:53:50,360 --> 01:53:53,680
The South Hadfield Shopping 
Parade is now being demolished. 

2299
01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:56,080
It is. 
It is just next to the church as

2300
01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:58,160
well. 
So it's kind of hyperlocal 

2301
01:53:58,160 --> 01:54:01,960
weight shot, which I do like. 
But there's a pub in the air it 

2302
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:04,720
that's still there. 
And you know what man, that 

2303
01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:09,600
pub's got a flat roof. 
There's a flat roof pub called 

2304
01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:11,520
the Hatfield Tap just next to 
it. 

2305
01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:13,720
It was called The Harrier, I 
think at the time the film was 

2306
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:15,640
made. 
So this is the first film that 

2307
01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:19,160
we've done when you see legit, 
actual, factual, probably 

2308
01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:23,280
ultraviolent flat roofed pub. 
This is very British. 

2309
01:54:24,440 --> 01:54:27,360
Has Kenneth Branagh ever had a 
point in a flat roof pub? 

2310
01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:30,960
I think he probably has. 
He's not had a fight in a flat 

2311
01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:35,120
roof pub's car park. 
He's never won a meat raffle in 

2312
01:54:35,120 --> 01:54:38,920
a flat roof pub. 
He's he's never done that thing 

2313
01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:42,800
when a member of boss half drops
a glass and he goes in in the 

2314
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:43,720
flat roof pub. 
I. 

2315
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:47,000
Think he's been in an FRP? 
Definitely. 

2316
01:54:47,240 --> 01:54:49,680
They could have made Kathy more 
psychotic. 

2317
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:51,160
How? 
Oh. 

2318
01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:55,360
Or he could have had an actual 
affair. 

2319
01:54:56,640 --> 01:54:58,840
Yeah. 
Ryan doesn't do that. 

2320
01:54:59,880 --> 01:55:02,160
Far too Catholic. 
Missed opportunity. 

2321
01:55:02,160 --> 01:55:04,640
He doesn't like skid the border 
bike and look down the camera 

2322
01:55:04,640 --> 01:55:06,640
and go, I'm Roman Catholic and 
what? 

2323
01:55:06,640 --> 01:55:09,840
He could have done is is made 
that I have to think of that 

2324
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:13,040
when when he calls the the 
operator and she goes calm down 

2325
01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:16,040
you're a Marine. 
They could have done a scene 

2326
01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:20,160
where Kathy makes him do that 
super cringe TikTok video of 

2327
01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:23,720
that. 
He's a Marine, loyal, pestified.

2328
01:55:23,720 --> 01:55:25,800
They could have done. 
That. 

2329
01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:31,440
That would have been a great 
unhinged couples activity thing 

2330
01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:34,040
to to just show how weird these 
two really are. 

2331
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:37,080
I really love that actually. 
She could have been like made 

2332
01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:41,400
making people call her like Mrs 
Mrs Lieutenant Jack Ryan, like 

2333
01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:45,200
doctor, doctor, Lieutenant Jack 
Ryan, a Lieutenant Jack Ryan, 

2334
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:48,480
Kathy Ryan, Fucking dependent 
spouse unhanged. 

2335
01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:53,960
Surgeon, Lieutenant Kathy Ryan, 
ME Mueller, Brackets, Spouse. 

2336
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:56,440
Thank me for my service. 
She's brilliant. 

2337
01:55:56,440 --> 01:55:58,440
Honestly, I was with my my 
hometown. 

2338
01:55:58,440 --> 01:56:00,960
Guy a Lieutenant for. 
Yeah, well, a matter. 

2339
01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:03,880
Of weeks long enough to learn 
how to use the, the the. 

2340
01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:06,240
Second left side Jack Ryan. 
Yeah, he. 

2341
01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:11,200
Was Gentleman Jack Ryan? 
Could you imagine that sprog 

2342
01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:12,680
British? 
Did like that's what he was 

2343
01:56:12,680 --> 01:56:13,960
doing. 
I don't think he's a. 

2344
01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:17,200
British Jack Ryan. 
It's this movie. 

2345
01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:21,040
Pro artist. 
Man this is the most pro CIA 

2346
01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:24,280
film I've ever seen. 
I I have to rewatch Zero Dark 

2347
01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:26,800
30, which might be like give it 
a run for its money, but like, 

2348
01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:30,760
but this is like the most pro 
CIA movie I've ever seen. 

2349
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:34,280
So the point which was I did the
CIA and they go thank God and 

2350
01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:36,960
then like and then they even 
like and they tip a lampshades 

2351
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:39,720
of the fact that the CIA might 
be a little bit problematic and 

2352
01:56:39,720 --> 01:56:42,720
then they just go not my unit, 
not my part of the CIA. 

2353
01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:45,120
Not my circus, not my monkeys, 
mate. 

2354
01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:47,680
Yeah, I'm, I'm the good guy, 
CIA. 

2355
01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:51,160
I'm the CIA intelligence agency.
Yeah, exactly. 

2356
01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:54,480
God. 
Yeah, we're not like the other 

2357
01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:58,000
boys. 
Yeah, we only do good stuff. 

2358
01:56:58,360 --> 01:57:01,720
We only investigate real 
baddies, and we don't do 

2359
01:57:01,720 --> 01:57:03,440
anything that crosses any funky 
lines. 

2360
01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:06,080
Even though you're a spy. 
Yeah, it's ridiculous. 

2361
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:11,880
Yeah, it's. 
Full throated chest out, pro 

2362
01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:13,360
CIA. 
Big time. 

2363
01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:16,760
It's it's also Marine Corps 
propaganda. 

2364
01:57:17,560 --> 01:57:20,320
Oh yeah, big time. 
You're Marine. 

2365
01:57:20,440 --> 01:57:23,080
You can handle being a super spy
like he he was. 

2366
01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:26,240
He was a marine out of Academy 
for like 5 minutes before he 

2367
01:57:26,240 --> 01:57:27,600
took an RPG to his back. 
So. 

2368
01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:30,520
He doesn't know shits in. 
Terms of being a Marine. 

2369
01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:33,240
It was. 
It was in exactly long enough to

2370
01:57:33,240 --> 01:57:35,640
know how. 
Like the kind of harnesses work 

2371
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:37,160
in the helicopters. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

2372
01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:40,800
Which is. 
It's also British Leyland 

2373
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:43,080
propaganda because none of the 
cars breakdown. 

2374
01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:47,080
Yeah, yeah. 
Jack Jack Ryan doesn't 

2375
01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:49,840
immediately slip on an oiled 
slick trying to run after the 

2376
01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:52,880
defender. 
There isn't a scene when an 

2377
01:57:52,880 --> 01:57:55,760
oligarch's driver gets out and 
starts kicking the wheel of a 

2378
01:57:55,760 --> 01:58:00,840
smoke Land Rover. 
It's also not rusty. 

2379
01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:03,920
It looks like the AC works. 
There's no condensed water on 

2380
01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:06,760
the inside of the windows. 
Condensed water. 

2381
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:10,000
The scene begins and like sure 
Evans drive out, grabs like a 

2382
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:13,240
towel that they keep in the 
fucking passenger seats, wipes 

2383
01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:16,520
the window down. 
That's how I get going between 

2384
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:19,720
September and April. 
I'll just have you know. 

2385
01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:23,240
That's a significant amount of 
the year, Sonia. 

2386
01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:26,240
I mean, it's hamburger, it's 
it's wet, we get sun for like 2 

2387
01:58:26,240 --> 01:58:28,920
days a year. 
So it's it's always moist, but. 

2388
01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:32,040
Yeah, there's another scene 
where like, Kathy Ryan gets 

2389
01:58:32,040 --> 01:58:34,280
pulled a Land Rover and she just
complaints the jacket smelled 

2390
01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:40,120
like an old leather jacket. 
People should change their 

2391
01:58:40,600 --> 01:58:42,640
minds. 
This is just, this car's just a 

2392
01:58:42,640 --> 01:58:47,480
toy for grown-ups, to be honest.
Yes, I will stop at a traffic 

2393
01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:51,040
light and random family fathers 
will stop, grin at me and give 

2394
01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:54,360
me two thumbs up. 
Just something like, okay, cool 

2395
01:58:54,360 --> 01:58:55,880
guy, I'm just trying to get to 
work. 

2396
01:58:55,880 --> 01:58:59,120
But thanks, I appreciate it. 
Yeah. 

2397
01:58:59,120 --> 01:59:04,920
Brother man, it's a truck and 
it's British, okay, there's 

2398
01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:07,040
thousands of these, but thank 
you for your. 

2399
01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:11,400
Dozens of us. 
Dozens of us. 

2400
01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:19,120
Dozens of us, 70% of all Land 
Rovers are still on the road, 

2401
01:59:19,120 --> 01:59:20,640
the other 30% made at home. 
But. 

2402
01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:25,600
It's amazing. 
It's, it's weird and I've, I've 

2403
01:59:25,680 --> 01:59:27,960
like Emma, not you. 
And Emma has been like, what, 

2404
01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:29,280
what are you doing with this 
car? 

2405
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:31,880
And then she sat inside of it 
like 5 times. 

2406
01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:33,200
I was actually, this is kind of 
fun. 

2407
01:59:33,200 --> 01:59:35,640
And then we had to drive, drive 
it for once. 

2408
01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:37,960
And she was like, maybe I want 
one too. 

2409
01:59:37,960 --> 01:59:42,040
It's like make up your mind 
you're not getting this one at 

2410
01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:46,880
least. 
I I I think the only thing more 

2411
01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:49,040
difficult than a relationship 
with 1 Land Rover is a 

2412
01:59:49,040 --> 01:59:51,040
relationship with two Land 
Rovers involved. 

2413
01:59:51,080 --> 01:59:53,800
We really should have, like 
serious conversations before 

2414
01:59:53,800 --> 01:59:55,920
they commit to having Land 
Rovers. 

2415
01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:58,240
And if you and if you're having 
a Land Rover to try and save the

2416
01:59:58,240 --> 01:59:59,800
relationship, that's for the 
wrong reason. 

2417
02:00:00,160 --> 02:00:02,080
Yeah. 
If you're cool, yeah, cool, 

2418
02:00:02,080 --> 02:00:05,360
bring them indoors. 
You live an hour away, I will be

2419
02:00:05,360 --> 02:00:07,240
there too. 
Possibly on the back of a tow 

2420
02:00:07,240 --> 02:00:08,640
truck. 
You never can't tell. 

2421
02:00:08,640 --> 02:00:11,200
Anything can happen there. 
This is great. 

2422
02:00:11,400 --> 02:00:14,120
This is the podcast of where I 
think we've discussed the film 

2423
02:00:14,120 --> 02:00:17,640
the least, but in good but it's 
been very good fun. 

2424
02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:22,000
But back to the movie. 
So grossest oversell of them. 

2425
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:22,960
Oh, I thought it. 
Was. 

2426
02:00:23,320 --> 02:00:24,880
Done. 
Boy, oh boy, oh boy. 

2427
02:00:25,880 --> 02:00:28,800
I mean, it's got that bit in the
plane where they just like 

2428
02:00:30,200 --> 02:00:32,120
analyse a little data that 
anybody knows how they got, how 

2429
02:00:32,120 --> 02:00:34,560
it got collected. 
In the first place, in just 

2430
02:00:34,760 --> 02:00:36,960
rapidly as well. 
Just just typed kind of branner 

2431
02:00:36,960 --> 02:00:40,520
into Google and just go. 
That's like, I know that like 

2432
02:00:40,520 --> 02:00:44,360
the sea in any real state that 
the NSA can read the time off 

2433
02:00:44,360 --> 02:00:47,160
your fucking wristwatch. 
The CIA is not going to be able 

2434
02:00:47,160 --> 02:00:51,560
to pull up some dead Russian 
kids death certificate in 

2435
02:00:51,560 --> 02:00:54,200
moments. 
This is something that you need 

2436
02:00:54,280 --> 02:00:58,160
a scene when someone gets into 
archives in Russia. 

2437
02:00:58,160 --> 02:01:00,560
This is the scene. 
We need a John Clark kind of guy

2438
02:01:00,800 --> 02:01:03,640
who speaks fluent Russian and 
bribes his way in with a packet 

2439
02:01:03,640 --> 02:01:05,720
of cigarettes. 
Who's digitising worship? 

2440
02:01:06,840 --> 02:01:11,880
Exactly like, and you're going 
to do a better fucking job of 

2441
02:01:11,880 --> 02:01:15,440
hiding your sleep out agent. 
You're going to scrub things off

2442
02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:17,040
the Internet. 
You're going to get rid of 

2443
02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:18,320
documents, you're going to hide 
stuff. 

2444
02:01:18,320 --> 02:01:22,080
There's no need for a death 
certificate because this kid 

2445
02:01:22,080 --> 02:01:23,520
became fucking ghost mode, 
right? 

2446
02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:26,880
You know, to say this kid died 
in some some random Russian 

2447
02:01:26,880 --> 02:01:30,360
Republic where they didn't have 
a decent amount of documentation

2448
02:01:30,360 --> 02:01:33,080
for things or whatever, or, you 
know, he never had a son. 

2449
02:01:33,080 --> 02:01:34,280
He never had a son. 
No, it's a mystery. 

2450
02:01:34,280 --> 02:01:36,600
It's a mystery. 
You know, the rapidly go through

2451
02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:38,920
a lot of things that could have 
been another 25 minutes of the 

2452
02:01:38,920 --> 02:01:41,000
film. 
Yeah. 

2453
02:01:41,080 --> 02:01:44,720
And that's a massive oversell. 
Would it have been interesting 

2454
02:01:44,720 --> 02:01:46,040
though? 
That's my that's my question. 

2455
02:01:46,280 --> 02:01:48,320
Yeah, yeah, you are. 
You are tension at the 

2456
02:01:48,320 --> 02:01:52,640
investigatory things by them 
saying we've got to get a guy in

2457
02:01:52,640 --> 02:01:54,800
the archives not know fucking 
Saint Petersburg or. 

2458
02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:55,720
Whatever. 
Yeah, No, I get you. 

2459
02:01:56,200 --> 02:01:58,840
Yeah, I'm just thinking like the
tone of the movie they're trying

2460
02:01:58,840 --> 02:02:00,640
to make. 
I think the thing about the Jack

2461
02:02:00,640 --> 02:02:02,600
Ryan movies, right, is that they
are. 

2462
02:02:03,640 --> 02:02:07,160
I think Jack Ryan is character 
actually is like deeply 

2463
02:02:07,160 --> 02:02:09,720
entrenched in like the 80s and 
90s, I think. 

2464
02:02:11,000 --> 02:02:13,840
And the kind of movie that 
supports a Jack Ryan type 

2465
02:02:13,840 --> 02:02:17,960
adventure is a thing of the 
past. 

2466
02:02:17,960 --> 02:02:18,840
I don't think. 
I think. 

2467
02:02:18,840 --> 02:02:21,040
I think I think some of our 
fears was behind the times when 

2468
02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:22,200
it came out. 
Yeah. 

2469
02:02:22,200 --> 02:02:25,240
And got and got supported by by 
made and born. 

2470
02:02:25,520 --> 02:02:28,280
Major 90s DNA in that film. 
Yeah, exactly. 

2471
02:02:28,280 --> 02:02:31,520
And I think this whilst it's 
trying to be like a a 20, it's 

2472
02:02:31,520 --> 02:02:32,760
mid twenty 10s. 
This came out. 

2473
02:02:32,960 --> 02:02:35,400
It doesn't feel like it. 
It feels like again feels like 

2474
02:02:35,760 --> 02:02:38,560
early noise, but kind of behind 
the behind the curve a bit. 

2475
02:02:39,760 --> 02:02:44,560
Yeah, I just, yeah, part of that
that DNA is that they've they've

2476
02:02:44,840 --> 02:02:47,720
simplified it too much. 
Yeah as well. 

2477
02:02:47,800 --> 02:02:49,400
Join the docs for you. 
Yes. 

2478
02:02:49,520 --> 02:02:50,360
Oh, we've got it. 
We've got it. 

2479
02:02:50,360 --> 02:02:52,160
We've found it. 
We've found awesome, awesome. 

2480
02:02:52,160 --> 02:02:55,040
Let's move on. 
And it's like I don't know man. 

2481
02:02:55,360 --> 02:02:58,640
Also jokes aside they could have
had them like pouring through 

2482
02:02:58,640 --> 02:03:02,280
kitchen cells on Reddit and and 
like find like the Assassin's 

2483
02:03:02,280 --> 02:03:05,240
kitchen cells post. 
Like, jokes aside, kitchen 

2484
02:03:05,240 --> 02:03:09,240
cells, man. 
Like, he thinks there's jokes 

2485
02:03:09,240 --> 02:03:10,080
coming. 
Yeah. 

2486
02:03:10,720 --> 02:03:15,000
Fuck, fuck, fuck my sleeper 
agent Russian cell life. 

2487
02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:19,520
Talk to a female today. 
She told me to go back to told 

2488
02:03:20,200 --> 02:03:23,040
me to go back to Canada. 
I'm not even from Canada. 

2489
02:03:23,040 --> 02:03:25,120
Look at my pot of Porsche that I
made. 

2490
02:03:26,640 --> 02:03:29,320
I'm going to rope Max tonight, 
you know. 

2491
02:03:30,160 --> 02:03:32,760
OK. 
So reviews, reviews, reviews. 

2492
02:03:32,800 --> 02:03:36,360
3.6 runch and not great, not 
terrible. 2 1/2 star review from

2493
02:03:36,360 --> 02:03:40,760
Mike right. 
OK, so the recent reviews I'm 

2494
02:03:40,760 --> 02:03:43,360
going to go again like we 
normally do through the half of 

2495
02:03:43,360 --> 02:03:45,800
stars through to the actual good
reviews. 

2496
02:03:45,800 --> 02:03:49,040
Solid one stars. 
Am I weird that this is the 

2497
02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:52,120
first Keira Knightley movie that
I've watched crying emoji. 

2498
02:03:52,160 --> 02:03:56,240
But I mean, depending on your 
age and you know your your your 

2499
02:03:56,440 --> 02:03:59,120
proximity to Keira Knightley 
films, maybe not watched by 

2500
02:03:59,120 --> 02:04:04,040
Harrison 12th of February 2026. 
Absolute dog shit Charlene says 

2501
02:04:04,040 --> 02:04:06,600
could smell that scenario from 
far away. 

2502
02:04:06,600 --> 02:04:09,160
And then there's some stuff in 
French, which is it's a waste of

2503
02:04:09,160 --> 02:04:10,480
time. 
I've got one of these ones. 

2504
02:04:10,480 --> 02:04:13,880
When people reference their 
friends, opinions, quotes. 

2505
02:04:13,920 --> 02:04:17,000
This is like Mission Impossible 
with all the action scenes taken

2506
02:04:17,000 --> 02:04:18,000
out. 
Chandler. 

2507
02:04:18,160 --> 02:04:21,200
Thanks, Chandler. 
Well, our friends. 

2508
02:04:21,800 --> 02:04:24,800
Kenneth Branagh is not a 
convincing Russian. 

2509
02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:27,880
Yes correct. 
Watched at the nail salon and it

2510
02:04:27,880 --> 02:04:29,880
suck. 
I love you Keira Knightley. 

2511
02:04:29,880 --> 02:04:32,560
Find some slightly better ones 
now. 1 1/2 stars. 

2512
02:04:32,560 --> 02:04:34,600
How many? 
Jack Ryan and Jack reach Sharon.

2513
02:04:34,600 --> 02:04:35,520
Jack Bleach. 
Sharon. 

2514
02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:37,360
Jack Bryan. 
Can we Jack up here? 

2515
02:04:37,440 --> 02:04:39,080
There's too many five star 
reviews this film. 

2516
02:04:40,000 --> 02:04:42,960
Oh my God, this is just sorry, 
1/2 sauce. 

2517
02:04:43,080 --> 02:04:46,440
This is just Tony Dinozzo, the 
character who was already being 

2518
02:04:46,440 --> 02:04:50,160
played by notorious sexual 
harasser Michael Weatherly in 

2519
02:04:50,160 --> 02:04:53,960
the long running Naval Criminal 
Investigative procedural NCIS 

2520
02:04:54,120 --> 02:04:57,840
and is to this day played by 
notorious sexual harasser 

2521
02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:01,760
Michael Weatherly and Tony and 
Zeva, a Paramount Plus original.

2522
02:05:02,000 --> 02:05:12,960
This is simply not Jack Ryan. 
S005C0032003M005 Total 016 to be

2523
02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:14,840
tuned with fucking Russian 
number station. 

2524
02:05:14,840 --> 02:05:19,360
At this point the review goes on
the worst looking Harris Zamba 

2525
02:05:19,360 --> 02:05:21,960
Lucas picture I've seen. 
But part of that is the edit and

2526
02:05:21,960 --> 02:05:25,920
part of that is 2014. 
Imagine being kind of runner 

2527
02:05:25,920 --> 02:05:28,480
threatening a woman in a moving 
car in the set of tenant and 

2528
02:05:28,480 --> 02:05:31,160
having to admit, yeah this is 
way better than how I was doing 

2529
02:05:31,160 --> 02:05:33,720
a scene like this. 
My own movie. 

2530
02:05:34,680 --> 02:05:37,280
Funny to watch a movie about a 
Russian agent betting on the 

2531
02:05:37,280 --> 02:05:39,880
prospect of a successful 
terrorist attack in America 

2532
02:05:40,040 --> 02:05:42,800
after a successful terrorist 
attack by America was 

2533
02:05:42,800 --> 02:05:46,360
successfully bet on, possibly by
the president himself. 4th of 

2534
02:05:46,360 --> 02:05:48,640
January 2020. 
Sixth, by the way, this was this

2535
02:05:48,640 --> 02:05:50,360
was around the Venezuela attack 
time. 

2536
02:05:50,360 --> 02:05:53,320
Obviously it's always a dude 
named Jack for some reason. 

2537
02:05:53,320 --> 02:05:55,920
Well, obviously this person 
doesn't know Jack. 

2538
02:05:56,760 --> 02:05:59,800
Oh, it's half stars. 
That just reminded me. 

2539
02:05:59,800 --> 02:06:01,120
Yeah, sorry. 
Something somebody pissed me off

2540
02:06:01,120 --> 02:06:03,360
about the movie. 
Jack Ryan doesn't wear cargo 

2541
02:06:03,360 --> 02:06:05,720
shorts. 
Jack Ryan would not wear cargo 

2542
02:06:05,720 --> 02:06:07,080
shorts. 
Fuck no. 

2543
02:06:07,560 --> 02:06:10,600
God damn. 
Jack Ryan would wear exclusively

2544
02:06:10,800 --> 02:06:14,720
dad coat jeans pulled a bit too 
high up, even like the modern 

2545
02:06:14,720 --> 02:06:17,280
like Ted Kaczynski. 
Jack Ryan wouldn't wear cargo 

2546
02:06:17,280 --> 02:06:18,200
shorts. 
It was nice, John. 

2547
02:06:18,240 --> 02:06:19,640
Krasinski. 
I know what's his name but I 

2548
02:06:19,640 --> 02:06:22,920
could get him confused. 
I suppose slacks you wouldn't 

2549
02:06:22,920 --> 02:06:23,960
with cargo. 
What's carry on please? 

2550
02:06:24,400 --> 02:06:29,040
Yeah, 3 1/2 stars. 
It feels too over hated. 

2551
02:06:31,240 --> 02:06:33,120
I don't think anyone really 
hates this film. 

2552
02:06:33,320 --> 02:06:34,720
I don't have. 
It's not, it doesn't. 

2553
02:06:34,880 --> 02:06:37,080
It's not strong enough to to 
engender hate. 

2554
02:06:37,880 --> 02:06:40,800
Insanely over hated. 
Yeah it's predictable and a 

2555
02:06:40,800 --> 02:06:43,400
little cheesy, but what do you 
expect from a Jack Ryan movie? 

2556
02:06:43,400 --> 02:06:46,520
Well no, I I I expect different 
from a Jack Ryan movie. 

2557
02:06:46,560 --> 02:06:49,280
Dawson 2. 
Did your first account get 

2558
02:06:49,480 --> 02:06:52,520
deleted for wrong opinions? 
Overall entertaining and fun 

2559
02:06:52,520 --> 02:06:54,000
movie. 
Cool heresy here. 

2560
02:06:54,200 --> 02:06:55,880
Better than pay it. 
We get games. 

2561
02:06:56,280 --> 02:06:59,280
No. 
And that Amazon series version. 

2562
02:06:59,280 --> 02:07:02,920
I would throw away my oligarchy 
to flirt with Keira Knightley. 

2563
02:07:02,920 --> 02:07:07,000
Cirrhosis or no cirrhosis. 
Come come soon to ITV. 

2564
02:07:07,000 --> 02:07:10,800
Cirrhosis or no cirrhosis, Jack 
Ryan fires me the fuck up. 

2565
02:07:11,040 --> 02:07:13,120
I legit believe I can do what he
does. 

2566
02:07:13,240 --> 02:07:15,960
The whole digging into financial
stuff, not the fight against the

2567
02:07:15,960 --> 02:07:18,360
Russian agent and the sewers. 
The problem is that I like to 

2568
02:07:18,360 --> 02:07:20,520
drink as much as kind of the 
Branner of this movie. 

2569
02:07:20,600 --> 02:07:23,000
Also it kind of cracks me up 
that he there that he directed 

2570
02:07:23,000 --> 02:07:24,840
this movie. 
Dude likes to do all these 

2571
02:07:24,840 --> 02:07:28,160
Shakespearean plays and serious 
shit, but I respect that he can 

2572
02:07:28,160 --> 02:07:31,360
enjoy something like this. 
Oh mate, you're going to love 

2573
02:07:31,360 --> 02:07:33,000
Poirot. 
Amazing. 

2574
02:07:33,040 --> 02:07:37,240
Very similar Tom Clancy's in 
rainbows thumbs up emoji You're 

2575
02:07:37,240 --> 02:07:40,680
there are two rainbow emojis. 
Very epic rainbow emoji. 

2576
02:07:40,680 --> 02:07:44,040
Rainbow flag emoji from ladies 
Man the birth. 

2577
02:07:45,280 --> 02:07:49,000
I love this shit and just I want
to finish on five stars. 

2578
02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:53,120
Watch it at 3:00 AM and it 
becomes a cinematic masterpiece.

2579
02:07:53,120 --> 02:07:55,840
Wow, beautiful. 
Beautiful stuff, insightful as 

2580
02:07:55,840 --> 02:07:58,520
always. 
Might be tempted to do it, maybe

2581
02:07:58,520 --> 02:08:00,800
not, Who knows? 
OK, probably not. 

2582
02:08:00,800 --> 02:08:03,160
Guys, let's be real. 
Yeah, I gather that thinks it's 

2583
02:08:03,160 --> 02:08:06,040
to the end of this wonderful 
episode of Clear and Present 

2584
02:08:06,040 --> 02:08:07,040
dudes. 
So he does. 

2585
02:08:07,040 --> 02:08:12,280
Next time we will be watching 
the movie Cisco Pike from 1971 

2586
02:08:12,280 --> 02:08:14,400
starring a young Kris 
Kristofferson. 

2587
02:08:15,280 --> 02:08:17,640
Yeah. 
And Gene Hackman, so pretty 

2588
02:08:17,640 --> 02:08:20,760
pretty excited about that. 
Haven't seen it, so that should 

2589
02:08:20,760 --> 02:08:22,600
be good. 
I don't have any of us seen that

2590
02:08:22,600 --> 02:08:24,240
movie. 
I have seen some of it. 

2591
02:08:24,240 --> 02:08:27,800
The main reason I picked it is 
that our episode is going out on

2592
02:08:27,800 --> 02:08:31,200
the weed day the 20th of April. 
Blaze it indeed. 

2593
02:08:31,200 --> 02:08:35,640
And I I just did a bit of a 
Google about thrillers that 

2594
02:08:35,640 --> 02:08:39,320
involve weed and this one came 
up along with like Pineapple 

2595
02:08:39,320 --> 02:08:41,000
Express. 
It's more of a comedy thriller, 

2596
02:08:41,400 --> 02:08:43,320
and if I'm not going to fucking 
do Pineapple Express, I'm going 

2597
02:08:43,320 --> 02:08:46,080
to do this really, really 
obscure Kris Kristofferson film.

2598
02:08:46,520 --> 02:08:49,640
It's on YouTube twice. 
There's two versions on YouTube.

2599
02:08:49,640 --> 02:08:52,880
One of them has been copyright 
hit big time, and a load of it's

2600
02:08:52,880 --> 02:08:54,360
muted. 
I think we're going to have to 

2601
02:08:54,360 --> 02:08:57,200
like, post a link to the one 
that's not been copyright struck

2602
02:08:57,200 --> 02:08:59,840
when we put that episode up, 
just so people know what the 

2603
02:08:59,920 --> 02:09:02,720
fuck we're talking about. 
Yeah, cool. 

2604
02:09:03,240 --> 02:09:04,480
Brilliant. 
Well, I look forward to that, 

2605
02:09:05,920 --> 02:09:07,960
white chaps. 
I've got to do a long drive. 

2606
02:09:08,160 --> 02:09:11,360
So let's let's, let's, let's 
wrap this thing up. 

2607
02:09:11,360 --> 02:09:17,840
So guys, we have been clear and 
present dudes. 

2608
02:09:19,560 --> 02:09:21,520
Got them boys, easy claps. 
Nice. 

2609
02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:23,240
Did it, boys. 
Right, OK.

