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Deans represent. 
A clear and present danger. 

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National security of the United 
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Hello and welcome to season 2, 
episode 4 of Clear and Present 

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Dudes. 
I'm Mike Zumbar. 

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This is the podcast that reminds
you that this is a land of 

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wolves and you are not a wolf. 
And I'm here with Rory, James 

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O'Toole and Sonya Bjorkson. 
Hello, welcome. 

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OK, so we are covering, of 
course, tonight the movie 

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Sicario from 2015, directed by 
Denny Villeneuve, starring Emily

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Blunt. 
A couple of announcements before

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we get cracking. 
So standard stuff, please like 

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Spotify whether you hold your 

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podcasts dear and also check us 
out on YouTube if the will takes

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you. 
Also, happy birthday to Emily 

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Blunt, whose birthday it is 
today. 

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Part of the reason why we're 
doing this movie. 

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And then finally, a little 
clear, Imprisoned Dudes tribute 

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to the life of 1 Mr Robert 
Duvall, who suddenly passed away

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this week as we are recording 
today is the 17th of Feb 2026. 

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Just to want to say a little 
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I've seen a lot of tributes 
online about his work on The 

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Godfather and Lonesome Dove. 
A lot of stuff for Falling Down 

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actually, which is pretty cool. 
I want to give a little clear in

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Prison dude a tribute for his 
work in Jack Reacher, also 2015,

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I think, where he kind of 
reignited his Tom Cruise, Robert

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Duvall mentor mentee 
relationship, which he kind of 

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did in Days of Thunder back in 
1989. 

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So awesome film. 
But yeah, guys, take it away. 

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Do you have any words to say 
about old Robert Duvall? 

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What a performer. 
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Again, Godfather. 
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captivating. 
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He was absolutely tremendous. 
He was an absolute Titan on the 

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screen as performs in Apocalypse
now was just on the cusp of 

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unhinged yet believable as a 
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fighter, right. 
You know, loved it. 

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How many Oscars did the guy 
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He got the British Academy Film 
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Golden Globes, the Screen Act as
Guild Award and he was nominated

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for fucking Tonnes Tonnes, Best 
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Godfather, Best actor on support
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Best actor on leading role for 
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Mercies at the Apostles, Civil 
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and role for The Judge in 2014. 
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up the accolades, stacking up 
the stacking up the nominations.

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What a guy you know. 
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Also got the the National 
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private first class in the US 
Army. 

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That's right. 
So a clear imprisoned dude. 

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All of that tied to the rifled 
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We'll be covering some of his 
films almost certainly in in the

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near future, but. 
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pulling one out of thin air? 
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I've never heard of it mate, but
it sounds 2. 1002 American crime

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thriller film written, produced 
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Robert Duvalle. 
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of thin air and this sounds 
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Anderson Duvalle is a successful
American hitman whose employer 

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sends him to do a job in Buenos 
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His contacts inform him that his
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took part in Argentina's last 
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a phone call from the court 
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As Anderson learns his job as 
late, he was targeted to see an 

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injury in a riding accident. 
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stuck in Argentina to targets 
required from accident, he walks

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the street and he has music 
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He finds it. 
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beautiful woman gracefully 
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I'm not going to say anything 
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spoil this film later on while 
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really fucking good. 
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Yes. 
Awesome, right? 

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Should we talk about Sicario? 
So here for one Apartment is 

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pulling an agent that 
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You'll be part of the team. 
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To dramatically overreact. 
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Who do you work for now? 
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Welcome to water. 
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American action crime thriller 
film directed by Denny 

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Villeneuve, written by Taylor 
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That's Taylor Sheridan of 
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Kings, All that stuff. 
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Del Toro, Joshua Brolin, and 
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going to deviate from the the 
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The film follows A principled 
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film, who was enlisted by a 
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down a leader of a powerful and 
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Sakari received praise for its 
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direction, musical score and 
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quite a lot on this is Roger 
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cinematographer on this film. 
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cinematographer. 
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they'd be light. 
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my cue. 
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log over with us as the composer
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again with Denny Villeneuve the 
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Tremendous Film has one sequel, 
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Sicario Soldado depending on 
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Saldado just means Soldier which
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and Tradition 2018. 
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development. 
Taylor Sheridan has written them

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both. 
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here. 
This is my hottest take about 

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Sicario. 
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And by that I mean Taylor 
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style which I think is 
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Nerves focus in this film and 
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each other, I think. 
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Sicario? 
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Sam Wallace, one of us in of my 
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So Sanya, you're a man. 
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You're making me point man, 
knowing full well that that Jobs

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is that guy's job is just going 
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Roll one, blow one, son. 
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right? 
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some way banger of a film really
previously, mostly come across 

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it like short videos that you'll
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Laugh. 
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absolutely goes hard, really 
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accountant looking types in 
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thank you. 
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It's a weird crossover between 
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and these guys should nowhere be
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a particularly fun watch. 
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agencies doing things in 
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supposed to be. 
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I think, I think we're we're 
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here where I think Denny 
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probably the producers and stuff
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But what was going on in the 
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writer of the film, Taylor 
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So you've got something that's 
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jingoistic and maybe doesn't 
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wrong with what's going on. 
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it at the screenplay, I've kind 
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bit. 
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Kate, through Emily Blunt, we 
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of what's going on. 
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humble opinion until he showed 
his mind, the story is actually 

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just about how Kay is innocent 
and wide eyed and push your 

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tails and she gets broken down 
and sees that she's not ready to

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deal with these people. 
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problem. 
It's just a you've come out this

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white woman like like emphasis 
on the woman coming in here into

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this boys game and you have been
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boys and you are not ready to 
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You don't play with us 
werewolves, your sheep. 

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But actually I think what Denny 
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person has something like a 
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happening is morally repugnant. 
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She's 2 principals. 
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I don't think of the screenplay.
But that's the that's the 

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conflict I'm I'm sensing between
like the the friction between 

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what Denny Villeneuve wants to 
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and what Taylor Sheridan has put
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writing films about cunts. 
Writing films about cunts is 

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actually a fantastic line. 
I'm glad you're the first one to

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throw a really bad swear word in
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Mike, thank you so much. 
Full Sandman. 

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Full sand grip it and RIP it. 
So I've seen I've just seen now 

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where till I Sharon referred was
the anti walk king of Hollywood 

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by commentary magazine. 
And I'm not going to bother 

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reading this this article 
because it's big and wasn't I 

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wasn't paid to read. 
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at all for this show. 
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when like it seems like this 
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partially out of that kind of 
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that are at work within the 
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because they created like it's 
created out of has its its its 

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qualities from the tension and 
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Villeneuve and between Taylor 
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just the general vibe, the 
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It's like, I heard that I 
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I, I ain't got time man, Time's 
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But I've heard the sequel says 
essentially kind of Taylor 

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Sheridan does it again, But this
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are definitely 100% the good 
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Yeah. 
So, so in this film is very much

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the antagonists, the people, 
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So our antagonists, if we're 
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Josh Gordon's character. 
I think his name is Matt. 

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And Benicio del Toro's 

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character. 
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Alejandro, Benicio del Toro's 
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And then they are like, on the 
poster, back-to-back, like a 

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romantic comedy leads. 
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For for the for the sequel. 
Like, they. 

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They're the guys who do no 
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But the story is just as murky. 
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start a war between two cartels 
to create more. 

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Cool, cool. 
The the the the Mexican bad guys

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in in the film, he could be 
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and he'd still have the conflict
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between Matt Alejandro and and 
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you're righteous, like kind of 
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You're a you're a you're a girl 
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You're a pussy. 
But she is like seeing all the 

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moral horror that I think maybe 
might not have been in the way 

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Taylor Sharon wrote it, because 
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The right can basically rework 
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right? 
I mean. 

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Yeah, so exactly, exactly that. 
And I think if you look at the 

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rest of Sheridan's output, I 
like enough to watch it again. 

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I really liked Helen High Water,
which is the film I talked about

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a few weeks ago where Chris Pine
goes full scumbag mode as a bank

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robber. 
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generally a very good film, but 
it falls into the same trap as 

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every Taylor Sheridan piece of 
metre is, which is Tiller showed

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and decides ahead of time who 
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decrees to be the cool people. 
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they're very cool. 
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speech or three regular outputs.
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badasses who are cool and it's 
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is a show about the friggin the 
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towards like the landed Gentry, 
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It's a giant ranch owner in 
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The guy's obscenely rich, but 
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Dutton. 
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and his family, they're all 
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They're all terrible. 
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murders an episode, but women 
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being. 
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her up like Oh yeah, she's just 
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about how smart she is and how 
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And it's like, yeah, I guess 
she's really cool. 

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independent woman. 
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ass. 
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like three seasons of 
Yellowstone and like the two 

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prequel movies. 
I just realised Sandy's put a 

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fucking cowboy hat on while I 
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Yeah, I didn't. 
I didn't. 

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I didn't. 
I didn't want to say anything 

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because audio medium straight 
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Yeah, I was going to work. 
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theatre of the mind and not 
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just put a fucking cowboy hat 
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I'm going to take someone to the
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You look like the you look like 
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Cole Hauser. 
Jesus Christ, you're. 

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Going to get in my oversized 
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bodies into the nearby Canyon. 
And like, that's and like, right

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here's the thing, like. 
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Episode yeah, but Yellowstone 
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like hard hitting drama. 
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It's like Dad TV if you, if you,
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layer of it, it's a soap opera, 
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It's fucking Dallas. 
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hit and drama where we actually 
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philosophy issues of our time. 
It's just rich people messing 

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around and look at the big 
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How cool. 
It's on Abbey for rednecks. 

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It's time for rednecks. 
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So that's so I take that is like
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first watched the movie in 2015,
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to like other films that Roger 
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the imagery, bullet by the 
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direction in the editing. 
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sequences in this film that are 
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movie action head. 
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test of time is like one of the 
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Like it's a it's a car chase 
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and it's a it's fascinating and 
it's probably like a piece of 

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like God tier editing that that 
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But I'm going to say one more 
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they don't belong to Taylor 
Chariton. 

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He probably wrote a screenplay 
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this into a bad film. 
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that Taylor Sharon has actually 
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the amount of the amount of 
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for television as an actor 
causing the form, quote unquote,

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an allergy to exposition in his 
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it has it. 
And bullshit on that. 

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One bit of trivia I did read 
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Villeneuve and Benicio Del Toro 
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of Alejandro's dialogue because 
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the root of the mystery of the 
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It really does work very well 
because Kitty, I can imagine 

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right in the first script 
before, before Denny Villeneuve 

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got the knives out for it. 
I've been a hello, my name is 

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Alejandro. 
I used to be a lawyer. 

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The cartels cut my wife's head 
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VAT of acid. 
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powerful when it comes at the 
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been much earlier, like 
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private plane. 
When? 

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When? 
Exactly. 

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I was thinking you'd be like 
she, she would have been like, 

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what's your specialty? 
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like, you've heard of a melanin,
A Medellin. 

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And it's like, it's a, it's a 
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chaos. 
And she'd be like, you're not 

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American, are you? 
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And then. 
And then I'd be like, all right,

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fuck me, yeah. 
Yeah, and then he'd like and 

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look, here is my daughter, and 
here's another picture of her 

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going into the VAT of acid. 
He has, he has, he has, he has, 

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he has LiveLeak. 
He has a video of my wife being 

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decapitated by the cartels. 
So rather the point the podcast 

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already I'm angry about 
something that hasn't happened, 

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which is invalidating my 
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perfectly justified. 
Yeah, so we're just going to sit

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here making up a guy to get 
angry at? 

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Yeah, right. 
Plot synopsis. 

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Yes, there are images from this 
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And to do that, we have to get 
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Chandler, AZ. 
FBI Special Agents Kate Mesa and

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that's Emily Blunt and Reggie 
Wayne that's Daniel Kalua leads 

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a raid on a Sonora cartel safe 
house where they discovered 

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dozens of decaying corpses 
hidden in the walls outside an 

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explosive booby trap kills 2 
police officers and then 

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following the raid Kate is 
recommended for and joins a 

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joint task force overseen by 
spoiler spoiler spoiler we'll 

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stop there. 
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having read exactly 2 screen 
writing books, but your opening 

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image of your movie and your 
closing image of your movie 

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should be in conversation with 
each other. 

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And we'll cover that when we get
to it. 

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But the opening images movie is 
like a shot of residential 

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suburb outside of Chandler, AZ 
It little boxes on the hillside,

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little boxes made of tiki tack 
and cresting, cresting. 

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The cresting the hill is like a 
bunch of tactical FBI agents all

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wearing their tactical gear 
carrying rifles or whatever 

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they're cut. 
Yeah, that's rifles. 

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And as they swarm over and enter
this, this residential 

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neighbourhood, organised 
assaults by a bunch of people 

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working as a team, all wearing 
their rig, all carrying their 

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weapons and their protection. 
Emboldened they are by their 

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their, their crusades as the 
government doing quote unquote, 

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the right thing. 
Then we see a guy inside one of 

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the houses watching TV at a 
Ramb. 

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Raid occurs where like an APC 
slashes through literally 

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through the drywall and starts a
bit of CQB. 

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I'm going to hand it to you. 
Rory that's that's that's that 

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that's your fucking dynamic 
entry right there. 

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Like that's absolutely class. 
Just reversed an M rapid full 

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speed with the toes up with the 
drywall is incredibly cool. 

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It makes for a brilliant opening
sequence. 

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It's an excellent, excellent 
movie sake of a sequence. 

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I love how like straight away 
the suppressing of flash bangs 

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straight away as as well as it 
go through. 

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It's like a shock and it's like 
shock or it's like fucking 

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silence of action, you know? 
If Brian De Palmers were in 

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this, Emily Blunt, Will yelled. 
Let's do some good right before 

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the APC smashed in the wall. 
Let's. 

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Do some good. 
It's it is nice. 

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It is a good point how 
incredibly business like and 

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calm the the team or look as 
they're in the APC. 

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There's no one kind of like kind
of freaking out or being like 

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too jittery. 
There's there's one scene when a

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guy adjusts his headphone Mike 
and like not so there's one bit 

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of a guy who just has had from 
Megan. 

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That's the only real kind of 
like extraneous movement you see

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from them. 
It's like a very, very precise 

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team. 
I like it. 

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Yeah, there is there is one kill
in the house and it is a quote 

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UN quote good kill in police 
terminology. 

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The guy opens fire first is is 
taken out in the return fire. 

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So, so far, everything happening
probably legally in compliant, 

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whatever, whatever our way they 
have. 

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Then, as I said, after that 
immediate kill, they discovered 

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that this house is like some 
giant drywall mausoleum for lots

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and lots of bodies. 
It's posited that they may have 

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been legal immigrants who were 
kidnapped victims. 

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Yeah, kidnapped, kidnapped 
victims. 

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Because she's part of kidnapped 
task task force, isn't she? 

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But they're saying it might have
been immigrants who were held as

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ransom, but then the ransom 
wasn't paid, so they killed. 

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Them all, yeah, yeah. 
Then there's, there's the, 

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there's an outhouse, isn't 
there? 

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And some local police say that 
there's, there's, there's like a

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trapdoor. 
And of course the guards got 

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some bolt cutters out and then 
there was a very large bomb 

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beneath that trapdoor and holy 
shit. 

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Yeah, chaos. 
Yeah, you see the guy's brain, 

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man. 
Yeah, Pink Miss, because I had 

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to. 
Pause it and go back. 

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I was watching it with Emma last
night and I was like, I, I think

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you see that guy's brain through
his skull, you know, And then I 

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paused and I kicked it back. 
And as the cops said, crawling 

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away like, like, you see that 
shot of like that, like 

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dismember hand. 
Yeah, the camera pans up through

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the dust and that cops on his 
hands, knees. 

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And yet see as as skull cracked 
open and it's fucking brains 

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visible. 
And it's like, holy shit, man. 

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This film states its intent as 
far as its depictions of 

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violence right into open beats. 
Let me get to our first kind of 

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important scene. 
I mentioned earlier on that I 

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didn't think there was enough 
evidence in the storyline to 

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justify the comment in the news,
the Wikipedia summary that that 

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Kate is a principles FBI agent. 
So what we see is clearly a high

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level meeting is taking place 
probably between here like 2 up 

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and this delegation that is 
ostensibly security advisors 

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from the Department of human 
security. 

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That's that's kind of the 
initial layout of it outside of 

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the meeting room behind like 
glass soundproof whatever is 

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Kate and Reggie and they are 
talking about themselves going 

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like, what's this mean about 
don't know? 

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Do you know what's about? 
Don't know who those guys don't 

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know. 
They look inside the room at 

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all. 
So it's boxed in glass office so

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they can see that side of the 
around the table is Josh Brolin.

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He's wearing some like flip 
flops with these chinos in his 

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shirt. 
So like, who is this guy? 

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Anyone who's seen a filler 
movie, fans of this podcast 

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would immediately clock that as 
going he works for the company 

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because he looks like someone 
who worked for the company did 

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in Vietnam. 
Yeah. 

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And in every movie ever, right? 
So that's a good visual hand. 

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Big, big Air America energy. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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He's he's riding a he's wearing 
civilian attire on a military 

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flight with a little shooting 
zest on, isn't he? 

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Yeah, absolutely. 
I have to say with with with the

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shot, the sandals, right, This 
isn't going down. 

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We had foot thing. 
Don't worry. 

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Remember in Futurama when Doctor
Zoidberg first introduced in the

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like Doctor Zoidberg, he's 
weird. 

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He wears sandals and I consumed 
instead of a shot of a sandals 

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that pads out, which shows us 
these is this gigantic 

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lobstrosity floppy pink dog, 
that thing. 

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And it's like, that's fucking 
comedy time right there. 

449
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,280
But it's like, yeah, so an 
establishment shot of sandaled 

450
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,640
feat will never not be funny for
me because it's just like, you 

451
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,160
know, yeah. 
Let me then we go inside the 

452
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,960
office and we hear that we heard
the discussion. 

453
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,160
And again, like, what really hit
me this time watching the movie 

454
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,920
is how quickly they are trying 
to establish who of these two 

455
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,920
agents would be the most 
permissive to whatever nefarious

456
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,120
shit they're going to do. 
Because they're asking about 

457
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:22,240
Reggie and his family situation 
and what his background is 

458
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,120
career wise. 
As soon as they hear that he has

459
00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:25,880
a degree in law, they're like, 
yeah, not interested. 

460
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,440
Yeah, fuck that shit. 
Basically. 

461
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,520
Yeah, exactly. 
And then they bring, they bring 

462
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,080
Kade and they only ask her like 
very service level. 

463
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,480
They're like they don't ask 
about any of her professional 

464
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:36,880
background. 
They've already been pre briefed

465
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,040
that she's just been like 
tactical the entire time, hasn't

466
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,600
worked any cases. 
So yeah. 

467
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:41,960
They're referred to her as the 
thumb. 

468
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,360
I don't there. 
That's right. 

469
00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:44,920
So her intellect is much 
required. 

470
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,240
Foreshadowing for Dune? 
Yeah, I love it. 

471
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,720
And then they bring her in and 
they confirm that she is 

472
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,200
divorced and has no kids. 
And therefore, I guess the the 

473
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,720
mental maths that I'm assuming 
is going on in Josh Brolin's 

474
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,600
mind as, what's his name, Matt? 
Is it Matt Graver? 

475
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,160
Yeah. 
What's going through his mind is

476
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,840
if I get this person killed, I'm
not orphaning any children. 

477
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,480
And this person has probably not
got the intellect or the acumen 

478
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,800
to make problems for me. 
That's, that's what I'm taking 

479
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,600
from that this person is 
probably a bit of a loser. 

480
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,840
This person hasn't worked any 
cases, therefore hasn't got an 

481
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,280
investigative mind, or at least 
it hasn't been trialled. 

482
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,640
And if they die, they, they can 
die. 

483
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,760
That's that's that's kind of 
what I got from that. 

484
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,720
Yeah, the the kind of 
expositional dialogue says, 

485
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,280
doesn't it, that which is what 
they're referring to. 

486
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,200
It was a thumb and she's 
basically just like doing like 

487
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,160
tactical operations. 
She's like a lead on hostage 

488
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,560
rescue, but she's not part of 
the FBI CHRT. 

489
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,400
She's like she's like local FBI 
really good tactical operator is

490
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,280
she's SH, she's not Clarice 
Stalin. 

491
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,520
You know, she's she's not 
fucking Dana Scully. 

492
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,920
She's she's not going to cause 
him too many problems by 

493
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,600
investigating them and over 
saying them. 

494
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,200
She's just that be a signature 
on a document that says that 

495
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,240
that other free letter agency 
can work with her attached, you 

496
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,160
know? 
Exactly. 

497
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,000
And the fact that they don't 
even explain who he is or what 

498
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,640
the other agency is, and she 
doesn't even have the presence 

499
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,840
of minds to ask. 
Yeah. 

500
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,120
Or the gumption to ask. 
You know, she's thinking about 

501
00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:12,080
it. 
Instead, her boss kind of says 

502
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,560
it kind of gives her like a 
point of no return, the warning 

503
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,360
that you'd get in a video game 
before you went to the final 

504
00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:19,200
boss. 
It's like, you have to volunteer

505
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,200
for this. 
Think very carefully before you 

506
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,840
volunteer for this. 
You will be joining these guys. 

507
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,840
And she asks, like, what a job 
would be. 

508
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,480
And then he says something that 
must have struck her as being 

509
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,040
bullshit because he says, like, 
you will be tactical liaison 

510
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,800
because you've experienced in 
tactical OPS. 

511
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:40,760
And it's like really, really you
local FBI you've you've done a 

512
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,080
few room clearances in like 
domestic settings. 

513
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,720
We could we swat team. 
Why? 

514
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,880
Why you and not like I don't 
know anyone from Delta Force. 

515
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,560
Yeah, or even someone from the 
FBI's actual HRT, the House of 

516
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,240
Transcript team, you know? 
Right, exactly. 

517
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,200
Yeah, So and then she gets asked
the question. 

518
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,600
Brolin kind of says how would 
you like to make a difference, a

519
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,360
real difference, get the people 
who are really responsible for 

520
00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:06,240
today. 
And she's like, fire Will, if I 

521
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,400
help you, we'll be able to stop 
today from happening. 

522
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,320
And then that's that's the 
affirmative on that, that she 

523
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,560
goes, yeah, I'll volunteer. 
There's actually nothing in the 

524
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,120
text really at this minute to 
say that she's super principled.

525
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,200
It's just that she's a cop and 
she saw other cops get killed 

526
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,240
today. 
Yeah. 

527
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,840
Is this just? 
Is this not just revenge? 

528
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,760
Yeah, it's not like she's not on
like a crusade issue. 

529
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,400
She's just seen a bunch of 
people get turned in a pink 

530
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,400
fucking mist. 
Just just seen a guy crawl 

531
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,080
around with a hole in the skull 
and his brain visible. 

532
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,440
Spoiler, probably not an injury 
compatible with life in the long

533
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,680
term. 
So she's had a very, very bad 

534
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,040
one. 
And now she's been voluntled to 

535
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,920
volunteer to do this. 
And it's like, yeah. 

536
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,880
So I don't think it's through 
principles. 

537
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,520
I think it's because it's kind 
of kind of shock of contact with

538
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,280
what's happened. 
Jump in and she's like, well, 

539
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,400
fucking OK I guess you know? 
I don't we we don't get to 

540
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,960
anchor ourselves on what she is 
at the beginning of the movie to

541
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,720
make a comparison with who she's
at the end of the film. 

542
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,040
We can see changes happening 
from the beginning stage to the 

543
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,360
end state, but we don't get like
the like the save the cat. 

544
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:14,920
We don't get like the character 
beat that tells us who she is. 

545
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,840
Yeah, we, you, you really just 
get a sort of her her 

546
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,360
characters. 
I am uncomfortable. 

547
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,760
That's it. 
You can sort of see the courts 

548
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,840
will spike more and more 
throughout the film, but but 

549
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,960
that's pretty much it. 
Yeah, definitely called as all 

550
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,120
Spikes mentioned that That's 
that's obvious. 

551
00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:35,880
But that's absolutely spot on. 
I will say that. 

552
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,520
But do see some grave principles
and some of the grades like 

553
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,400
beliefs and morals come out in a
letter, especially with the bank

554
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,040
when she punched puts herself 
into the bank because she wants 

555
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,080
to investigate and therefore 
brings down some worse stuff on 

556
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,640
her. 
But yeah, like I I agree that 

557
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,320
listener on the blurb is a 
principled FBI agent actually 

558
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:57,200
sells the character short 
because it's it's more complex. 

559
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,240
There's more going on with her. 
There's more going on with her. 

560
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:02,000
She's she's a difficult 
character necessarily get a 

561
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,480
handle on, I think. 
I think she's actually like 

562
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,560
shockingly naive to put herself 
into this position to begin 

563
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,840
with. 
She doesn't, she doesn't 

564
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,960
interrogate it very harsh at 
all. 

565
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,640
She kind of just like is quite 
amenable to being in it very 

566
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,040
like results driven, I guess, 
like can I get to these cartel 

567
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,960
guys? 
Yes, cool, I'll sign up then 

568
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,880
whatever. 
And I don't even think that 

569
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,600
she's clocked that the the role 
they've given is like bogus. 

570
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,240
She hasn't had like she asks in 
the meeting like what's the 

571
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,280
objective? 
And the objective is like to 

572
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:35,560
like. 
Second, we're. 

573
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,840
Going to get the. 
Cause cause causing of chaos 

574
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,000
right on of the because they're 
going to go and they're going to

575
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,200
get that that guy back over and 
it's going to cause chaos and. 

576
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,520
Yeah, so the cousin of the cop, 
the snore cartel boss, is going 

577
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,320
to get pinched from, I guess 
he's held in Mexican federal 

578
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,040
custody. 
They're going to transfer him 

579
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,720
from a Mexican prison. 
That's it. 

580
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,440
They're going to transfer him 
back over the border and then 

581
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,440
conduct again. 
She's enough to know about this 

582
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:00,880
and they don't tell her, but 
they're obviously going to 

583
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,000
conduct some kind of illegal 
rendition on him to either find 

584
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,560
stuff out or just cause trouble.
So she flies down, but she 

585
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,160
travels down to Luke Air Force 
Base and then flies down to the 

586
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:17,480
Mexican US border in Texas. 
Yeah, the absolutely just like 

587
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,040
fucking Marga poor partner off 
don't there, Daniel. 

588
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,120
They're just, they're just 
making like fucking turn round 

589
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,320
and park up there and it's like,
Jesus Christ. 

590
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,160
Yeah, right there. 
Yeah. 

591
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,240
So they fly down. 
We have the sequence which is on

592
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,000
the private jet. 
Yeah. 

593
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,720
We see again Josh Brolin's kind 
of character established. 

594
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,200
So he gets a bit of character 
establishing. 

595
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,120
We see him like flip flops fall 
off. 

596
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,560
He's he falls asleep straight 
away, isn't interested in 

597
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,080
briefing, shows her new 
respects, has no interest, has 

598
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,520
no interest in who she is. 
It's quite happy just to fall 

599
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,040
asleep in her presence. 
Like don't care. 

600
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,240
Similarly, we see Alejandro 
board the jet. 

601
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,280
She assumes that he's American 
and works for an American free 

602
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,640
agency and he doesn't disabuse 
you of that notion straight 

603
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,360
away. 
But again, he's pretty like 

604
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,600
iconic as well and isn't 
particularly interested in 

605
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,480
talking to her too much. 
It does say you remind me of 

606
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,240
somebody, which is paid off 
later in the movie. 

607
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,840
That's about it. 
Yeah, yeah, I think, I think 

608
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,040
that might be one of the few 
things of Taylor Sheridan's big 

609
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,520
expositional dialogue that still
survives. 

610
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,400
I would love to see the original
screenplay. 

611
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,320
Yeah, I, I ordinarily would make
a look for it, but I think I've 

612
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,960
not achieved it this time 
indeed. 

613
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,120
I'm too much like he gots out 
like a fucking like flip chart 

614
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,600
and a PowerPoint or maybe like a
little video camera. 

615
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,560
I said, do you see? 
Do you see this is my wife? 

616
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,760
Do you see this is her 
transformed into a cartel murder

617
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:43,720
victim? 
Do you see? 

618
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,520
This is this is me passing the 
bar. 

619
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,400
Do you see This is me winning my
first case? 

620
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,200
I was going to see like shows 
like a super cut of like all the

621
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,120
cases he would against the 
cartels. 

622
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,720
And there's like a slow motion, 
a video of him that like he 

623
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,880
filmed himself as he's going 
home and seeing his wife and 

624
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,160
daughter actually did it every 
day. 

625
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,280
But this time it turns out wrong
and and drops to the ground. 

626
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,160
And yeah, it's. 
Brief keys, wrist case drops out

627
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,880
his hand. 
Yeah, we're getting into it. 

628
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,400
There's a there's a mission 
brief that takes place. 

629
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,480
We get a bit of an introduction 
to like who is in this 

630
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,400
operation? 
There are Delta Force there, 

631
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,760
there are US Marshals. 
Everyone is tooled up. 

632
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,560
Everyone has long beards. 
No one's wearing regulation 

633
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,200
military tyre. 
Therefore everyone is an SF 

634
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,400
operator, surely. 
And she looks around, she clocks

635
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,880
all and she has, she must have 
the moment where she goes. 

636
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,440
I am not the tactical liaison 
expert. 

637
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,520
Yeah, I am just a guy with a 
badge. 

638
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,360
And she still doesn't put it 
together yet. 

639
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,880
That's what really annoys me is 
that she see her having the 

640
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,920
thought process and she knows 
something's hinky, but she 

641
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,880
doesn't. 
We don't get like the thought 

642
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,400
that she's had completed for 
like another hour and then we 

643
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,880
are off to the races. 
And what is one of the standard 

644
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,760
sequences of the film and 
probably the Kappa of act one, 

645
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,800
which is the mission to collect 
this guy actually like Diaz's 

646
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,360
brother from Ciudad Juarez. 
So they cross the El Paso de 

647
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,640
Juarez border. 
Fascinating sequence. 

648
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,400
I want to I want to slow it down
for a minute and and talk about 

649
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,080
what's going on in the cars on 
this convoy crossover. 

650
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,600
So driving the vehicle that 
contains Brolin and Kate. 

651
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,840
Emily Blunt is Jeffrey Donovan 
was a character called Steve 

652
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,840
Forson. 
He's the speckled guy with the 

653
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:26,840
moustache. 
Yeah. 

654
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,280
Who's driving the car? 
And as a convoy is moving 

655
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:35,040
through Juarez, they pass like a
big highway overpass and from it

656
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,040
is hanging like 4 dead bodies 
that have been mutilated. 

657
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,120
It's beyond recognition. 
And Kate sees it has like a 

658
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,200
visceral gut reaction. 
This is the first time seeing 

659
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,800
such atrocities out in the wild.
Probably very traumatic. 

660
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,760
I mean, it's the same week she 
saw those bodies in that house, 

661
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,520
right? 
And then this guy, Steve 

662
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,160
Forcing, who is obviously part 
of the CIA, starts saying it's 

663
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,920
brilliant what they do. 
It's brilliant what they do. 

664
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,480
Like they they make it so that 
they cut these people up beyond 

665
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,920
recognition, so that anyone 
looking at them assumes that 

666
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,560
they're involved, that they've 
done like heinous things to 

667
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,000
deserve this treatment. 
It's brilliant what they do. 

668
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,000
That's what he says. 
Pretty grim for representatives 

669
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,840
of the US government to be 
showing such admiration of this 

670
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,840
butchery, right? 
Absolutely. 

671
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,680
I mean, also was like as as I 
think some of his first dialogue

672
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,120
with matters when he's saying 
that dead burns when I pay, you 

673
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,160
know, he's he's got himself a 
social disease on his on his 

674
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,160
last jaunt wherever he was, you 
know. 

675
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,640
Yeah. 
Yeah, he's not presenting 

676
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:40,360
himself as a overseas crusader 
for for American justice, is he?

677
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,000
It's not like it's not true of 
justice in the American ways. 

678
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,320
It's it's like pretty, pretty 
rich in imperialism. 

679
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,760
It's not it's not a social film 
about where it's going with this

680
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,360
stuff. 
My worry is that this is from 

681
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,920
Taylor Sheridan's scripts and he
doesn't see a problem with it. 

682
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,560
That's just like I get the 
impression that he maybe thinks 

683
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,640
it's like, this is the way the 
world and I'm and I'm just 

684
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,640
making you guys wake up to the 
reality of the situation. 

685
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,199
What this film doesn't do is 
doesn't interrogate the cartels 

686
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:09,480
at all. 
This could be taking place on 

687
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,320
freaking Mars, right? 
I should say there's a there's a

688
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,440
counter narrative that is a very
loose mirror for Kate and a 

689
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,080
Mexican police officer called 
Silvio. 

690
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,400
Yeah. 
So, so we see another like 

691
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:25,600
equivalent, like, I mean, 
they're not totally because 

692
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,880
she's the FBI. 
He's a beat cop. 

693
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,880
But you have like, you know, 
standard law enforcement, bottom

694
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,639
of the totem pool during these 
events. 

695
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:35,040
One from the Mexican cartel 
side, one from the American law 

696
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,800
enforcement side. 
And they're meant to they're 

697
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,159
meant to kind of rhyme, right. 
That as far as skills, though, 

698
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:42,040
in terms of like getting to the 
heart of the issues like that 

699
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,360
Sylvio, Sylvio son. 
So he doesn't want to touch the,

700
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,400
his dad's shotgun. 
He doesn't want him to, you 

701
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,040
know, but then he goes and plays
soccer in the street and he 

702
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,760
hears the gunfire in the 
background and it's like 

703
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,920
inevitable that he's going to 
take up that life at some point,

704
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,960
which is just kind of a bit 
lazy. 

705
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,880
So we carry on with the the the 
convoy to pick up the guy from 

706
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,840
the courthouse. 
And there's a bit of like 

707
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,720
tension when all the vehicles 
are static next to the 

708
00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:11,200
courthouse. 
Alejandro reminds them casually.

709
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,120
Like if it's going to happen, it
won't happen here. 

710
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,640
It'll happen at the border. 
I like that the very beginning 

711
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,920
of the sequence we got like a 
nice overhead shot. 

712
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,960
There's a lot of drone footage 
in this one before it was like, 

713
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,080
but before it was a thing and it
was like it was still exciting 

714
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,280
and I don't I haven't seen it 
done any. 

715
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,480
I don't really see apart from 
the movie Ambulance, I've not 

716
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,800
seen drone footage done an 
exciting different way besides. 

717
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:37,880
This thing as well, you know, 
when when the when the private 

718
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,640
plane like the the project takes
off and you say, well, that 

719
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,000
obviously birds out view 
footage. 

720
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,920
The shadow of the plane is 
there. 

721
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,560
So I wonder if it's drone 
footage with the shadow added in

722
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,280
post. 
It probably would be wouldn't 

723
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,240
it, whether it's general like 
kind of stability or would it be

724
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,360
shot from an actual plane? 
I mean, how, how, how, how hard 

725
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,640
was Dennis Villeneuve going to 
go on this? 

726
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,680
Tony Villeneuve is a It goes 
incredibly hard. 

727
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,960
I mean, you think build a new 
fucking border crossing the 

728
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,600
filming so yeah. 
Yeah, if you look at like, even 

729
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,080
his smaller budget movies like 
Enemy has an incredible effect 

730
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,440
shot involving as well as a 
giant spider, you wouldn't see 

731
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:16,440
it coming. 
If you've seen the movie. 

732
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,680
It's also got Jake Gyllenhaal 
and Jake Gyllenhaal as twins. 

733
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,960
Yeah, man, that sounds so good. 
Yeah, man, that. 

734
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,720
Sounds so good. 
Yeah, if you think about the 

735
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:30,680
effect shots that he's then gone
to apply in Arrival in June, 

736
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:36,320
June Part 2, like there's no one
making like these grace big 

737
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,360
blockbuster action sequences in 
such like a believable way that 

738
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,320
he's doing. 
If you look at like the Marvel 

739
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,320
kind of sloppots pumping out at 
an insane rate and like the 

740
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,200
effect shots on them, a lot of 
them are fine. 

741
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,920
So they're not like mind 
blowing. 

742
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,160
And then if you look at like 
think of June 2021, the sequence

743
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,240
where they're they're under the 
ambush from the Harkins and they

744
00:36:57,240 --> 00:37:00,080
run out and all their all their 
gunships are all just getting 

745
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,520
blown up in front of them in the
in the night sky and it's 

746
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,520
lighting everything up. 
That's incredible. 

747
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:05,400
Man. 
That looks so good. 

748
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,800
Yeah. 
So I wouldn't be surprised if 

749
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,720
that's a very simple, I see a 
very simple, obviously very, 

750
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,960
very difficult to do putting up 
a shadow on to to lend it like 

751
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:20,160
weight and physicality. 
Cool, I was going to say sorry, 

752
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,520
you mentioned it. 
They they created a new border 

753
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,760
crossing for the purpose of the 
movie. 

754
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,680
You get you get the incredible 
setup, which is the US to Mexico

755
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,600
crossing is completely cleared 
out and they zip through new 

756
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,680
issues. 
You see early foreshadowing of 

757
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,760
the incredible tailback on the 
Mexico to to US side and they 

758
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,200
haven't and they haven't even 
bothered to like close a lane or

759
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,520
anything. 
They they just left it to be the

760
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,880
complete cluster fact that it's 
going to be in a bit. 

761
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,440
I I'm amazed that they just and 
I don't know if there's a is 

762
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,920
there a commentary there? 
Is there like a bit of a bit? 

763
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,280
Yeah, on on the return the sea 
something along lines of the 

764
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,600
waving vehicles through to to 
kind of clear up space. 

765
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,440
And but then when you see when 
the returning with the guy that 

766
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,320
taken from the courthouse 
heading back to the border and 

767
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,600
you start to see the drone 
footage, you see there's been a 

768
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,720
breakdown. 
There's a vehicle pulled over 

769
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:13,640
kind of kind of a crooked to one
side with steam coming up from 

770
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,160
its from its bonnets. 
So there's been something broken

771
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,400
down and that's kind of caused 
like a bit of a bit of a hitch 

772
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,240
in it. 
So that's why the the run into 

773
00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:24,000
this problem, you know? 
Yeah, I thought it had a bit of 

774
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,960
a sense of like complacency 
about it, like American kind of 

775
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,480
complacency. 
Like we don't give a fuck. 

776
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,520
We'll we'll do it. 
We're going to prepare because 

777
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,680
we've got unlimited resources to
throw everything. 

778
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,280
Who cares? 
That's that's kind of vibe I 

779
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,360
got. 
Like if you've got a shit sort 

780
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,320
of material, why bother 
preparing and closing a lane in 

781
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,720
preparation for and stuff? 
We'll be fine. 

782
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:44,600
We'll just bowl on through. 
Like it's arrogant is what it 

783
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,920
is. 
Anyway, so they get to the 

784
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,120
crossing. 
The crossing is a gridlock. 

785
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,000
And then we have this like 
amazing tense moment where we 

786
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,640
are, it's like we're in the car,
we're looking at all the other 

787
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,200
cars and we're picking up the 
same things. 

788
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,120
There's like all the cars with 
all guys in them. 

789
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,640
The cars with guys were all 
heavily tattooed, the guys. 

790
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,120
Is that smuggling a weapon 
there? 

791
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,560
And and like the confirming the 
ROA at that point, like it's 

792
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,480
like looking like kind of kind 
of like the the governed by at 

793
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,240
least some kind of rules, you 
know, the ROA. 

794
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:17,200
It's like you don't fire unless 
you fired a pawn kind of thing. 

795
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,160
And again, this film does 
tension really well. 

796
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,440
This film is essentially one 
massive gigantic tension ritual.

797
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,920
Yeah, and the tension of of this
scene is absolutely amazing. 

798
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,440
I'll probably pop off about 
later as well when I talk about 

799
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,640
weapons handling and stuff in 
the film because I've got a lot 

800
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,720
of research about guns and shit 
in this movie. 

801
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,560
I will go. 
Incredibly good. 

802
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,840
I will go too deep into it. 
Then I will say there's a 

803
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:43,280
narrative economy or a narrative
effect applied by them having 

804
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,320
that are we discussion well in 
situ in the scene. 

805
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,240
So I kind of, I get, I get it 
because it, you know, it's, it 

806
00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:51,240
brings more attention because 
it's like, oh, they're talking 

807
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:52,800
about what happens when they 
start shooting. 

808
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:53,960
There's going to be some 
shooting. 

809
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,960
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I like that. 

810
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,200
Obviously there would be like a 
reminder of the ROA. 

811
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,200
Someone probably wouldn't ask 
the question, but someone else 

812
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,720
would. 
Oh, maybe they would if they 

813
00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:04,400
weren't sure. 
Yeah. 

814
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,960
This kind of stuff happens. 
Yeah. 

815
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,400
It's interesting that we never 
get the ROA briefed in the 

816
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,040
actual mission brief prior. 
Yeah, that's right. 

817
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,520
And later in the film, there's 
another similar situation where 

818
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,960
there's a detailed mission brief
happening and there is no, are 

819
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,080
we briefed during that? 
And the subjects were always 

820
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,960
broached and then waves off 
during that. 

821
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,120
Yeah, 'cause quality of 
briefings in this film are 

822
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,520
diabolical. 
Yeah. 

823
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,520
Really bad briefings. 
As a guy who goes around 

824
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,640
assessing people's mission 
briefs for for a living. 

825
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,920
Really really bad briefs. 
All these feeling bossed, all 

826
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,560
these guys are going to feel 
bossed, Mike. 

827
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,080
Yeah, yeah, not not my Walker 
who just probably gets on my 

828
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,160
Walker with hair like that hair 
like a party. 

829
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,280
You can don't do that anymore. 
The hair regulations have 

830
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,640
completely opened up. 
It's ridiculous. 

831
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,920
Anyway you. 
Guys are getting hair to 

832
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,440
regulate. 
But yeah, so it's just an 

833
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,400
incredible, becomes an amazing 
and amazing shootout scene. 

834
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:07,280
You just say again, fantastic 
violence of action, weapons 

835
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,280
handling. 
It's it's exciting, it's 

836
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,200
thrilling. 
And it ends with a Benicio Del 

837
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:20,160
Toro doing the masculine urge to
sit open boot of a hatchback and

838
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,760
be exfiltrated as it drives 
away. 

839
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:25,840
Yeah, go, go, go. 
Just like stand in the boot with

840
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,680
your legs hanging out when you 
fucking MP5. 

841
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:32,800
Like yeah, dreams are made of. 
Brilliant. 

842
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,960
I love it. 
There's a payoff to it's 

843
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,840
something from Alejandra as 
well, who you mentions to Kate 

844
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,440
as doing the approach that you 
can't always trust the state 

845
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,840
police. 
And then lo behold, when the 

846
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,960
ambush takes place, the low 
level cartel hitmen are 

847
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,400
dispatched pretty quickly 
between the combined CIA, 

848
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:54,840
whoever else there but spying in
the rearview mirror of the car. 

849
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:59,320
Kate spots a federal agent like 
point his gun at her head and 

850
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,160
she has to turn and shoot the 
guy for the window and kills a 

851
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,000
guy and she has a pretty good 
visceral reaction. 

852
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,680
She like, shoots him and drops 
an F bomb. 

853
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,320
She's like, what the fuck? 
What are we doing here? 

854
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,360
Good concern, Kate, Very good 
concern. 

855
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,560
Situational awareness. 
Great. 

856
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,280
Yeah, absolutely. 
I would say good question, well 

857
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,120
asked. 
Probably raise it at a more 

858
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,000
appropriate time after this is 
all over. 

859
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,720
But yeah, she she does that 
kills, kills a federal police 

860
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:24,680
officer in self defence is a 
visibly horrified. 

861
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,720
And then they return to the US, 
where Alejandro and Matt have 

862
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:32,080
this guy Gelmo in a little 
torchy dark room of rendition. 

863
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,320
This point, the narrative 
spinters off a little bit. 

864
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,040
So the film could have followed 
Kate the hallway. 

865
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,280
But we get a bit of an insight 
into what's going on with this 

866
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,600
Guillermo guy. 
I don't know if he needs it. 

867
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,160
We're already pretty sure that 
Matt and Alejandro are doing bad

868
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:47,760
stuff, right? 
Yeah. 

869
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,600
But but we get it anyway. 
I mean, what's, what's your take

870
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,160
on it? 
So we got that like before it 

871
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,640
gets into there, the horrific 
torture sequence. 

872
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,880
We do got that bit when that 
Mexican guy who was either a 

873
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,240
Mexican high level law 
enforcement or someone from like

874
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:05,840
the legal system with a judge or
a prosecutor or something has a 

875
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,320
chat with Alejandro. 
And like Alejandro was very much

876
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,400
like, you'd still want to be in 
there, man. 

877
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,200
Because if you're not in there, 
you can just see you didn't see 

878
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,600
what happened. 
It's got the big fuck off bottle

879
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,120
of water from from the water 
dispenser. 

880
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:24,360
And it's like it is deeply 
uncomfortable to say Alejandro 

881
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,600
just pushes crotch into the 
guy's face, right? 

882
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,960
Yeah, that's grim. 
That is, that is really 

883
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,320
uncomfortable watching. 
Yeah, big. 

884
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,320
I mean, it's like, again, I 
don't know if Taylor Sheridan 

885
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,120
thought that was cool or not. 
That's my that's the question 

886
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,000
I'm always asking myself 
watching this film is I know 

887
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,360
Danny Villenev doesn't think 
it's cool. 

888
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,880
I think I think he knows it's 
monstrous. 

889
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:44,680
Yeah. 
I think Taylor showed Taylor 

890
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,400
Sheridan think it's actually 
genuinely quite cool. 

891
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:49,040
I mean, I don't know much of 
Taylor Sheridan's work. 

892
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,160
I'll put my hands up right 
there. 

893
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,280
But I mean, yeah, So what? 
Whether he thinks it's cool or 

894
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:59,760
not, the way it's shown in 
moving pictures and lights and 

895
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,800
sound, it's fucking horrible. 
I like to witness. 

896
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,720
I like that's only the owners 
shows sort of restraint here. 

897
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,600
A lesser filmmaker would have 
shown us the water boarding, 

898
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,520
right? 
It's the commit, or at least the

899
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:13,840
commencement of the war 
boarding. 

900
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,880
Water boarding is really 
frigging horrific and it's awful

901
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,880
awful awful. 
I'm not even say but afrig as it

902
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,960
is a fucking horrible thing. 
The film also has more bloody 

903
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,400
gore in it and I think that 
trying like kind of keep like 

904
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,200
the shock, the visual shock of 
these horrible gory deaths and 

905
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,200
tortures and stuff. 
And you can just work out when 

906
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,320
you mind what's happening to 
him. 

907
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,240
Because obviously 2015 at this 
point, what important is 

908
00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:40,520
something that's been in the 
public, the public eye for quite

909
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,880
some time. 
It's it's very understood. 

910
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,240
This is a really horrendous, 
surrendous thing. 

911
00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:49,680
So the film is leaving it's real
shock and fucking awe for the 

912
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,000
gruesome brutal violence scenes 
and like the the family 

913
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,840
destruction later on and stuff, 
you know? 

914
00:44:55,720 --> 00:44:59,760
The film is sensibly about. 
I say about is set against the 

915
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,400
backdrop of the war on Drugs, 
right? 

916
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,280
Yeah. 
But it's also probably a bit of 

917
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:09,360
a commentary on the global War 
on Terror, I think in the sense 

918
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,760
that war polling comes up as a 
subject something and rendition 

919
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,160
comes up as a subject something 
that was very much in the public

920
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,480
conscience, as you say, with, 
you know, Guantanamo Bay 10:10 

921
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,120
or so years prior, Abu Ghraib. 
You know, these are images that 

922
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,680
people knew about. 
So crimes committed by, let's 

923
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,120
say, law enforcement or the 
military against people with 

924
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,680
brown skin is something that we 
are familiar with. 

925
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,760
And I think it's something 
that's probably not lost on on 

926
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,880
the, you know, French Canadian 
director Denny Villeneuve there.

927
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,200
Picking up like Guillermo and 
stuff as well, it's the idea 

928
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,760
that like they're trying to 
create on the trying to create 

929
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:49,040
enough tension and unease inside
the cartels operating systems 

930
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,680
that they're going to have to 
recall the guy they've got in 

931
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,440
the states back over. 
Manuel Diaz, I think his name 

932
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,440
is, Yeah. 
Yeah, which is why the then kind

933
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,720
of do that operation to to stop,
as you know, to stop as kind of 

934
00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:04,400
money trained to stop this money
laundered thing that's going on 

935
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,240
because they know this is what's
going to cause the cartel on top

936
00:46:07,240 --> 00:46:10,680
of all this thing to kind of 
bring them back, you know. 

937
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,440
So we chopped, then they've got 
the fucking stalking horse that 

938
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,080
can follow in and then Alejandro
can deal with Alejandro does 

939
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,280
best. 
Yeah. 

940
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:24,640
So before we make the the shot 
levester to some, we get a shot 

941
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,920
from what's Kate doing at this 
time and she's hanging around 

942
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,720
with the rest of them tapping up
outside. 

943
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,040
One of the large operator guys 
says, hey, you come with me. 

944
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,120
I want to show you something 
cool. 

945
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,760
Yeah, I'd like fireworks. 
Yeah, you like fireworks. 

946
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,360
And they climb on top of the 
building and look over the 

947
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,200
border into Mexico, into Juarez,
and they see like the absolute 

948
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,600
chaos that has been brought 
about by the decapitating the 

949
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,520
the head of the local cartel. 
So she wasn't already horrified 

950
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:50,520
by the violence she's seen 
today. 

951
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,720
She's like horrified now that 
like I've just made like I've 

952
00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:55,840
just been part of an operation 
that has made like war hit the 

953
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,680
streets as far as I can see. 
And it's like trace of fire and 

954
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,000
explosions and like all the 
little police lights trying to 

955
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,160
like swarm around it. 
It's a, it's a great image, 

956
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:06,120
horrifying, but it's a great 
image, you know? 

957
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,040
The way the scenes shot as well,
they almost like feel that, like

958
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,600
that kind of like high desert 
cooled kind of thing in the way 

959
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,000
it's shot. 
Let's say, again, this is 

960
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,240
beautifully shot. 
It's expansive. 

961
00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:23,840
Yeah, there's, there's, there's 
this kind of cool cooled both in

962
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:28,160
demeanour and in temperature 
feeling to it in, in like the 

963
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:33,640
visuals that are presented. 
And the gunfire is so distant 

964
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,640
that like you don't feel it, 
like you don't take it as like a

965
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,080
visceral kind of thing. 
But you see, this is this is, 

966
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,000
this is beautiful yet fucking 
awful because you can understand

967
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,920
what's going on and it's like 
it's it's so close to civilise 

968
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,960
it to civilization, yet so far 
we're separated by just to get 

969
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,720
arbitrary border and fences and 
stuff. 

970
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:56,280
And like they've they've like 
kind of set things and happened.

971
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,160
And now that's sitting back and 
watching it and it's just 

972
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,640
uncanny and eerie at times. 
It's brilliant. 

973
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,840
A moment of calm watching 
absolute horror unleashed on the

974
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,840
streets of the city, basically. 
They get they get some 

975
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:13,360
incredible images during this. 
So I often to cry the Netflix 

976
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,320
ifification of films that we see
nowadays. 

977
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:20,040
And one of the things I hate the
most is the very shallow depth 

978
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:24,440
of fields that has become like 
in vogue now allows the 

979
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:25,520
filmmaker. 
It's a bit of a crutch that 

980
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,480
allows the filmmaker not to 
worry about too much what's in 

981
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,360
the back of the frame because 
they can just make it blurry. 

982
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,200
So you don't have to care too 
much about what's in the back of

983
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,480
the frame anymore. 
This film neatly avoids that and

984
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,760
is not afraid to have visual 
detail in the background as well

985
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,920
as the foreground. 
And in that sequence, there's a 

986
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,240
beautiful shot where it's wide, 
they're walking right to left to

987
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,320
the edge of the roof where 
they're going to watch the 

988
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,760
explosions happening. 
Incredible sky behind them, like

989
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,720
just just an incredibly 
beautiful like tumultuous, like 

990
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,640
like clouds. 
It's night, but there's there's 

991
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,760
all these beautiful clouds and 
there's like you can see like a 

992
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,240
storm. 
You can see literally an actual 

993
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:04,960
storm brewing in them like dark 
darkened seeds of clouds around 

994
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,320
these billows of white. 
Just like like a like a like a 

995
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,080
oh man. 
I don't get like a level English

996
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,120
about it, but it looks amazing. 
While we're on some visual 

997
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,160
visuals, I want to drop it now 
because I feel that we have to. 

998
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,920
Has anyone noticed the costuming
of the movie? 

999
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,680
How at the very beginning of the
film, after the initial raid, 

1000
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,240
first time we see her in cities,
Kate is wearing a blue T-shirt 

1001
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,400
and then as the film progresses 
on, it'll be turned into a grey 

1002
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,640
T-shirt and I'll turn to a pale 
grey T-shirt by the end. 

1003
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,960
You notice that? 
Yeah, yeah. 

1004
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,400
It's like the lifeblood of hers 
bleeding out and the colour is 

1005
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,760
is fading. 
Just a nice visual touch that 

1006
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:40,800
they didn't have to do but they 
did. 

1007
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,720
It looks cool. 
No, definitely one. 

1008
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:44,840
It's brilliant. 
She's just been like, worn away 

1009
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,080
by the whole thing, you know? 
Yeah, cool. 

1010
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:53,200
So we get to Tucson, AZ, we see 
the sequence where the amassed 

1011
00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:56,520
immigrants have just been sat 
before they get processed 

1012
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:57,840
further. 
Pretty grim. 

1013
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,240
Um, I think we can all agree. 
But they find out where these, 

1014
00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:03,280
these tunnels are. 
We also get like, I think it's, 

1015
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,600
this isn't the last time you see
Reggie because he comes with 

1016
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,200
them on the raid, but we get 
Reggie trying to throw his 

1017
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,720
weight around a little bit to 
try and get to the boat. 

1018
00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:12,080
What's going on? 
I presume there's a sense of 

1019
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,680
self importance that comes from 
being an agent in the FBI that 

1020
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,760
they assume they are carrying. 
They are holding some weight 

1021
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,560
here. 
And I don't know how she could 

1022
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,800
have gone through what she went 
through in Juarez and not 

1023
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,600
realised. 
I'm not, I'm not contributing to

1024
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:28,240
this operation whatsoever. 
Yeah, man, in a weird kind of 

1025
00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:33,440
players a little bit on the kind
of trope you get in like a cop 

1026
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,080
shows and cop movies and stuff, 
how the FBI are the ones who 

1027
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,280
turn up and pissing everyone's 
chips. 

1028
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,480
And they're the ones who 
immediately respected by by 

1029
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,520
like, well, not respected with 
other ones who immediately 

1030
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,320
forced themselves to overrule 
the local beat cops, the local 

1031
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,440
city or state accounting 
agencies and stuff. 

1032
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,800
And here you see a situation 
when there's always a bigger 

1033
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:59,680
fish, to quote Star Wars and and
these FBI guys pale in 

1034
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,320
comparison to the other three 
letter agencies and to the 

1035
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,320
people who are. 
What is the line? 

1036
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,680
Elected, not appointed. 
Yeah, that's. 

1037
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,840
Well, I mean, it's safe. 
So what kind of shows the FBI is

1038
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,640
losing the power and the 
authority when they've got this 

1039
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,720
much government bearing down on 
them? 

1040
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,640
You. 
Know so the sequel explicitly 

1041
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,480
goes into those halls of power 
and Catherine Keener I think 

1042
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,760
plays the Secretary of State for
defence and has a role in it and

1043
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,560
yeah yeah so we see like the 
decisions coming straight from 

1044
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,680
the White House to go and sort 
out Mexico. 

1045
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,720
I want to say it, yeah, I I've 
heard a lot about it. 

1046
00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:40,800
I haven't, I haven't watched the
movie yet. 

1047
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,680
So saving it for a rainy day. 
So the next thing that happens 

1048
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,320
is the task force raids a bank 
used to launder, launder Diaz's 

1049
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,280
money as a way of like again, 
causing trouble for Diaz making 

1050
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,960
making it his appears in Mexico 
necessary. 

1051
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,400
As you say, they find financial 
evidence. 

1052
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,360
They're doing some kind of funky
thing where they they're putting

1053
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,320
tonnes of money into the bank. 
It's to pay back a loan. 

1054
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,200
Therefore the money going in 
only represents on statements 

1055
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,160
and stuff as a negative balance 
getting more negative. 

1056
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,880
Therefore it's not like seen by 
the IRS. 

1057
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,800
It's not seen by, you know, the 
FBI or anything. 

1058
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,200
And he was tracking financial 
crime. 

1059
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,280
So that's how he's got, that's 
how he's got away with this so 

1060
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,480
long. 
It's like $9000 a day or 

1061
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:22,720
something. 
It's insane money. 

1062
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,720
I'm actually really pissed off 
because I'm like about to start 

1063
00:52:25,720 --> 00:52:27,880
and I'm I'm money laundering 
course and I wish I fucking did 

1064
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,440
a while ago. 
You said of I've been able to 

1065
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:30,520
have really good opinions on 
this. 

1066
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,560
But yeah, just just imagine I 
said something cool about this 

1067
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:34,720
course. 
I've yet to start. 

1068
00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:37,240
But but yes, like they say, it's
essentially it's a kind of like 

1069
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,840
non existent money, except it's 
appearing as like like like kind

1070
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,520
of minuses on on like a running 
balance. 

1071
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,680
Right, so. 
The critical thing that happens 

1072
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,880
during the sequences is we get 
one of our favourite things on 

1073
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,960
Clear Present Dudes, which is a 
little van which has an OPS room

1074
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,840
inside of it. 
Yes, love a little van with an 

1075
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,760
OPS room inside of it where 
they're watching camera feeds of

1076
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,840
what's going on in the bank as 
they're doing their little sting

1077
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,720
operation which they 
successfully execute. 

1078
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,320
Kate doesn't listen to Matt's 
advice not to enter the bank. 

1079
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,800
You just getting out of that 
van, just like a lot of people 

1080
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,640
have done, a lot of films have 
covered before this. 

1081
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,320
Yep, got to go out of the van, 
got to get involved and then she

1082
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,840
does it and we see her on the 
CCTV cameras. 

1083
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,960
A bit of a very good bit of 
visual storytelling there to 

1084
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,520
show us that it's not as I 
should go in the bank. 

1085
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,680
It's like these cameras have 
seen her and we can just tell 

1086
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,400
implicitly by looking at it only
for the cameras lenses that it's

1087
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,560
like she's fucked up. 
Yeah, she, she, she, she has now

1088
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,720
got on the radars of other 
people and she really shouldn't 

1089
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:35,600
have, as we say quite soon after
that. 

1090
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,160
Yeah, so. 
Use work against her. 

1091
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:44,440
That's right. 
So she goes so I guess to wash 

1092
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,040
off the day, I suppose they're 
told to like go home and get 

1093
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:52,040
some sleep and stuff. 
They go her and Reggie don't 

1094
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,560
have a clue his character. 
They go to like a cowboy bar 

1095
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,840
with like just some of that some
of that modern pop country 

1096
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:04,960
playing, which I fucking hate. 
You know, country songs used to 

1097
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,320
be about like real things, right
people? 

1098
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,920
Country songs used to be like, 
about people like strolling on 

1099
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,880
the land and like their their 
their loved ones dying and 

1100
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,000
stuff. 
And now they're all about like 

1101
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,400
how much you should drink a cold
beer. 

1102
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,960
And they're all written by guys 
who own like 20,000,000 LB homes

1103
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,360
and fucking their own golf 
courses. 

1104
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,760
People never done a day's hard 
work in their life telling you 

1105
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,560
to eat some fried chicken and 
have a cold beer. 

1106
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,120
Fucking fuck off anyway. 
Man. 

1107
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,320
Oh great, you fucking couldn't 
be lost and bang out. 

1108
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,880
Called my wife, sold my cyber 
truck to an immigrant. 

1109
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:42,120
I mean think about it, with the 
rise of of self driving cars and

1110
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,120
AI, it's only a matter of time 
before we actually get that 

1111
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,360
song. 
Yeah, it'll be it'll be my cyber

1112
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,520
truck broke down brackets 
because of woke. 

1113
00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:54,480
Because of all these purple 
haired liberals broke my cyber 

1114
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,160
truck. 
These purple haired pan gender 

1115
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:02,600
liberals really don't give a 
fuck about my all American not 

1116
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:08,120
South African cyber truck. 
I love Jesus and guns and 

1117
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,960
Jesus's specific gun which is 
visible in the Turin shroud if 

1118
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,720
you look really carefully. 
It was It was appendix carrying 

1119
00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:21,800
in 1911. 
That took that took it anyway. 

1120
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:29,000
So they go to this bar and man, 
what a jump scare. 

1121
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,600
John Burnfall. 
Jump scare. 

1122
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:35,680
John Burnfall jump scare. 
Whoa, I didn't know I was still 

1123
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:42,280
with Super Cup. 
Oh shit, shame from The Walking 

1124
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,120
Dead. 
Fucking Wayne Jenkins from Way 

1125
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,080
in the Sound. 
Fucking yeah again. 

1126
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:51,000
John Burn for The Punisher. 
A guy who exists only to be a 

1127
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,280
fuck up and everything he's in, 
I love him. 

1128
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,160
How does he do it? 
How does he find that energy to 

1129
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:56,600
be the same? 
He's the same character and 

1130
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,080
everything. 
He's a hyper masculine guy who's

1131
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,520
fucked up. 
Hashtag our guy. 

1132
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,960
Hashtag Oh my God. 
He's he's, he's very much our 

1133
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,280
guy and I've got a lot of love 
for the dude. 

1134
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,320
I love him too. 
I love him too. 

1135
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:09,480
I think he's I think he's 
brilliant. 

1136
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,160
He's perfectly cast in this 
because he's yet another 

1137
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:18,160
instrument of law that is 
engineers against Kate and his 

1138
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,640
vibes are off immediately. 
And I don't know because we all 

1139
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:25,080
know who Jon Birnthal is, but 
but that vibes off always vibes 

1140
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,880
off. 
I mean, the thing that I would 

1141
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,280
need to mention about Kate at 
this point is like, although 

1142
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,600
it's like, Kate, you're a 
fucking busted fam cell with an 

1143
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,800
ancient bra. 
No one's gonna, no one's, no 

1144
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,600
one's gonna want to make you a 
trad wife, Kate. 

1145
00:56:37,720 --> 00:56:40,440
But as my wife pointed out, 
Emily Blunt's really fucking 

1146
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,080
pretty and she's really fucking 
pretty in this film. 

1147
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,920
And like, he's like homes the 
fuck straight in, right? 

1148
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,560
And it's like. 
They didn't do enough to to to 

1149
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,040
clear up. 
They could have, they could have

1150
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,120
made her face greasier, they 
could have made her hair 

1151
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,120
greasier. 
They could have like really like

1152
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,800
skis drop a bit than that, 
couldn't they? 

1153
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,600
I mean not even making her look 
gross or anything which was I'm 

1154
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,040
thinking more like going like 
the full on fem cell root. 

1155
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:06,280
So like he takes a home and they
go into the bedroom and they 

1156
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,640
start fooling around but then 
like he looks down he's found 

1157
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,320
like 1/2 eaten 3D old pizza 
inside a bed sheets and. 

1158
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,920
That's a romance of a Taco Bell 
Gordito. 

1159
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:21,200
Yeah, the room just smells of 
like 4 different kinds of fast 

1160
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,360
food over like a week. 
You look so about this like a 

1161
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,400
gaming rig with three screens. 
One of them is on Reddit, one of

1162
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,080
them is on 4 Chan. 
One of them is just got like a 

1163
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:37,280
loop of just like fan fan fan 
fan made man on man Supernatural

1164
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,880
the TV series Winchester this. 
One, this is like horse girl. 

1165
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,160
No, it's a fan cell. 
A different thing. 

1166
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,120
Horse girls fuck fan cells 
don't. 

1167
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:49,400
No talk about the movie Horse 
Girl, but yeah, sorry, Allison 

1168
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:50,960
Brie movie where she's obsessed 
with superdatural. 

1169
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,760
Oh. 
My God, holy shit. 

1170
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,000
To beat a movie, I love it. 
I love it. 

1171
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,360
Fucking brilliant movie in the 
middle of the floor. 

1172
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,760
She's got like an upended copy 
of The Fountainhead she's got. 

1173
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,200
She's got to go fuck. 
Like, like fucking the Punisher 

1174
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,640
trips over like, just like a 
pile of individuals. 

1175
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:09,880
I'm going, yeah, he's the 
Punisher. 

1176
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,640
He fucking trips over like 
individuals. 

1177
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,200
Signed copies of Atlas Shrugged 
that it's just like, in like a 

1178
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,000
little pile. 
This, this. 

1179
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,880
There's like 45 squish Ballers 
on the bed. 

1180
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,720
She just sleeps on top of them. 
It's the least comfortable thing

1181
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,240
in the world ever. 
Well, it's a squish baller 

1182
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:27,560
behind me, by the way. 
I don't give a fuck. 

1183
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,800
All all all of her clothes are 
probably the one Jack is in her 

1184
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,120
wardrobe, which is 1 giant Star 
Wars pug. 

1185
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:39,920
Oh. 
My fucking God. 

1186
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:41,880
And like, yeah, so they could 
have, they could have gone 

1187
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,320
really down at the kind of fem 
cell root. 

1188
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,440
Like there's like anime body 
pillows that he goes in. 

1189
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,520
Well like dining room, there's 
like a four seat table, 3 of the

1190
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,480
seats have a different anime 
body pillow. 

1191
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,000
And there's evidence that has 
been like having candlelit meals

1192
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,920
with them and stuff, and it just
smells crazy in there, right? 

1193
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,880
I think, I think what we've said
in our own inevitable way is 

1194
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,720
that her character is somewhat 
underwritten. 

1195
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,280
There was, there was stuff there
to learn. 

1196
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:16,320
Exactly, they could have, they 
could have gone fully crazy fam 

1197
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,040
cell with her is what I'm 
saying. 

1198
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,160
And that would have been even 
funnier when the Punisher had 

1199
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,200
sex with her. 
Well, the Punisher didn't have 

1200
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:24,920
sex with her, did he? 
He fooled down with her a 

1201
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,920
little. 
Bit but in the words of George 

1202
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,320
Costanza kissing his sex, but 
you're correct, there was there 

1203
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:34,680
was no coitus because then she 
saw that that like rubber band 

1204
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:39,120
recognised that it was being 
used terrible fucking Opsac by a

1205
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,880
complex money laundering ring. 
By the way, to have like really 

1206
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,560
distinctive what look like 
charity rubber wristbands. 

1207
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,720
Probably not, but it's like, 
that's terrible. 

1208
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,040
Just use a standard, you know, 
rubber. 

1209
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:51,920
Band. 
That's a band, Yeah. 

1210
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,240
Real fucking bad. 
Terrible, terrible, terrible. 

1211
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,640
Upset, you know. 
Very weird. 

1212
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,520
Very weird choice, a bit 
contrives. 

1213
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,240
It has to happen for the film. 
Exactly, exactly. 

1214
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,080
It couldn't have been any other 
way of doing that. 

1215
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:04,480
That's just ridiculous. 
You had. 

1216
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:08,160
AI mean I'm I'm I mean it's. 
Like a phone text or something 

1217
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:09,320
or anything could happen, you 
know? 

1218
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,640
I'm that's a fairpoint a second 
meeting in the in the opening 

1219
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,840
scene when they're doing that 
like really kind of tight CQB. 

1220
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,240
Then they go into that room 
without flash banging at 1st and

1221
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,800
she got shot at that. 
That has to happen so they can 

1222
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,200
get a big honking hole in the 
wall and then it's a dead body 

1223
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,280
insider kind of thing. 
But so I understand like things 

1224
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:32,560
like, oh, he's got this, this 
really glaringly obvious thing 

1225
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,760
in his pocket that he pulls out.
It's it's the thing that has to 

1226
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,240
happen for the script. 
But but. 

1227
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,280
It's got his I'm a money 
launderingist band. 

1228
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:45,280
Live strong and also loaned our 
money it's like. 

1229
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,400
This one, this one's, this one's
my helpful heroes 1 and this is 

1230
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,760
my organised crime one, and on 
this one is my country 

1231
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,200
awareness. 
What would Jesus do? 

1232
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,840
Bracket loaned our money is the 
answer to that. 

1233
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:06,200
Change money. 
Sam, son, we got a New Testament

1234
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,040
in here. 
Bars I. 

1235
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:17,040
Was doing with super cop so. 
Fucking God, that's good. 

1236
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,120
You're good away from. 
Come on. 

1237
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,080
Can you go away for a long time,
buddy? 

1238
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,080
Yeah. 
So they. 

1239
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,400
Yeah, he viciously attacks her. 
Yeah. 

1240
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:34,040
And then just as you think her 
life is about to end, Alejandra 

1241
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,000
appears and presumably off 
screen, we don't see it, beats 

1242
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,880
fuck out of him. 
And it turned out that all along

1243
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,560
it was a sting operation to 
track down this one guy. 

1244
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:48,400
And we used Kate as bait or as, 
as Josh Brolin mansplains to her

1245
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,240
as she used herself as bait by 
walking in front of a CCTV 

1246
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,280
camera. 
It's it's pretty grim. 

1247
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,000
Yeah. 
Because Brolin could have 

1248
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,160
fucking stopped all right, I 
mean Brolin could have stopped 

1249
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:00,600
that going in. 
He could have put hands on it, 

1250
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,640
could have said no, fucking 
literally don't do this. 

1251
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:04,680
You could have explained it 
further, but he didn't. 

1252
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,320
And then he comes Mansplain and 
you are like that means man 

1253
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:11,320
explaining and. 
What's called ascending? 

1254
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:16,880
That's when I talk down to you. 
People have got to listen really

1255
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,320
fucking close to this episode, 
so don't get cancelled, all 

1256
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,440
right? 
Yeah, we are. 

1257
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:25,040
We are mocking these people we 
are not agreeing with with with 

1258
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:26,400
Ship. 
Yeah, it's fucked up. 

1259
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,920
It's fucked up, it's fucked up. 
And then we we get a great scene

1260
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,520
in, I guess one of their cars 
with a heavily beaten John Burn 

1261
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,560
for the backseat. 
And then we get what I can only 

1262
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:38,120
describe as the most violent wet
Willy I've ever seen from 

1263
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,720
Benicio Del Zaro. 
Just wets it sticks a finger in 

1264
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,440
easier to the point where it 
causes a physical discomfort. 

1265
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:49,720
That's oh man. 
Like what's he going to do next?

1266
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,000
Like give him a noogie, an 
atomic wedgie. 

1267
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,520
A fucking Chinese bird or 
something. 

1268
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:58,280
Chinese bird. 
He's going to, he's uncuffed and

1269
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,640
take his hands and give him a 
game of peanuts. 

1270
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,520
That's, that's a very British 
reference to people of our 

1271
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:09,360
particular generation. 
Sorry, Americans and people from

1272
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,360
other nations that don't have 
peanuts. 

1273
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,680
The game, not peanuts. 
The food, you've got the food, 

1274
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,720
but the game's different. 
Brilliant. 

1275
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,640
Yeah. 
So we find out that of course 

1276
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,520
John Burn falls very, very 
junior in the organisation. 

1277
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,720
Just a dirty cop got in with his
head. 

1278
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:28,520
Josh Brolin threatens the life 
of his ex-wife by threatening 

1279
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:29,960
the doctor. 
Yeah. 

1280
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,840
And his and his daughter, yeah. 
Yeah, straight up I'm going to 

1281
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:37,920
post that details on the. 
Yeah, fucked up, man. 

1282
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,840
Yeah, it's like, not even we're 
going to send the boys round. 

1283
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,560
We're just going to like do like
a fucking post on like, like 

1284
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:45,920
Fortune or whatever. 
I'm like. 

1285
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:47,600
Why? 
Why? 

1286
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,680
I have yet to decide on this 
film, but I guess it's answered 

1287
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,120
by the fact there's a sequel 
where they're portrayed as the 

1288
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,480
good guys. 
I guess in terms of like writing

1289
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:59,040
it, they presume that all this, 
let's call it the squeeze is, is

1290
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,720
worth all the juice, right? 
They think that they think that 

1291
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,520
the writer of this, like Taylor 
Sheridan, presumably thinks that

1292
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,760
this is, this is just the cost 
of doing business to fight crime

1293
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,720
against the car cells. 
It's almost like you got like 

1294
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:11,760
really, really pissed one night.
It was like, you know what they 

1295
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,800
should do? 
They should just bring one guy 

1296
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,520
from Colombia and they should 
just topple all the Mexicans and

1297
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,320
have it all be Colombians. 
And then they should just 

1298
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,360
fucking regulate it. 
But like don't tell people. 

1299
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:21,760
Just have the government 
regulate. 

1300
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,000
Just got to say it to regulate 
it. 

1301
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:27,320
The old Potomac 2 step Jack. 
This is the plot of Clear and 

1302
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:32,880
Present Danger all over again. 
Anyway, sorry I don't know where

1303
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,480
I came from. 
It came straight out of Medellin

1304
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:36,080
baby. 
Right. 

1305
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,160
So what we've learned is the 
location of a tunnel, what's 

1306
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:40,480
going on with the tunnel and the
money. 

1307
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,000
We've sufficiently pissed off 
Manny Diaz that he has to go 

1308
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,560
back to Mexico to talk to his 
his bosses. 

1309
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:52,400
OK, When Matt reveals to the 
other two that the Reggie and 

1310
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,480
Kate are the only reason that 
they're involved in this 

1311
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,680
operation whatsoever is to 
permit the CIA to operate within

1312
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,040
US borders as a legal 
technicality. 

1313
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:01,480
Was that surprising to you at 
all? 

1314
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,040
Did it come as a bit of like, Oh
my God, it got me? 

1315
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,000
Or is it like clearly obvious? 
We'll see. 

1316
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,840
The first time I've watched it, 
I wasn't aware that that was the

1317
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:18,560
case because this was, this was 
before I got, I probably became 

1318
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:25,800
more like kind of defence pilled
and global security pilled after

1319
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,320
the first time we saw this film,
I guess. 

1320
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,840
So it wasn't like fully, well, 
the CIA couldn't operate 

1321
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,520
domestically. 
I'm fully of this kind of thing.

1322
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,480
It was, it was a little bit of a
surprise, a little bit of an 

1323
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,600
interest in the revelation 
because at that point he knew 

1324
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,000
that there was something going 
on. 

1325
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,560
There was something, there was 
some especially free agency and 

1326
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:49,320
it's not a main bending like, 
you know, realisation that was 

1327
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:53,600
just that the CIA can operate on
the American crown, etcetera. 

1328
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:57,840
Yeah, I guess like the first 
time I watched that, I probably 

1329
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,440
wasn't like tracking that as 
much as well. 

1330
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,400
Yeah. 
It's weird if you trying to 

1331
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:06,520
remember what it was like the 
first time I saw it because it 

1332
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,000
doesn't really make like a tonne
of sense. 

1333
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,760
Like they kind of hand wave how 
she got involved in pretty 

1334
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,720
quickly in the story. 
Like we talked about the scene 

1335
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,200
earlier on about how she's 
attached to them as a tactical 

1336
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:21,880
liaison. 
Her output is if I was like her 

1337
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:26,000
employer, you know, her outputs 
to me is really nebulous. 

1338
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,440
Like what what's she producing? 
They talk a little bit about and

1339
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,520
I think it's later in the movie,
like very, very, I say later, 

1340
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,640
like the next scene from this, 
they talk about how if there's 

1341
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,800
any drugs impounded during 
during the op, the FBI, the ones

1342
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,920
responsible for confiscating it 
and like that like. 

1343
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,560
So yeah, it's pretty, it's 
pretty narrow remit she has. 

1344
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,960
I mean, like, like me, the 
pretty much teller don't like 

1345
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,240
just stay at the back and keep 
your safety on kind of thing. 

1346
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,720
And it's like. 
She gets, so she gets a lot of 

1347
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,240
there's a lot of misogyny in 
this film. 

1348
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,160
And I'm not going to be like the
guy who's man, if people listen 

1349
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,520
to this podcast and they go, oh,
it's a woke podcast because this

1350
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,760
guy's talking about misogyny. 
I mean, Jesus Christ, man. 

1351
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,920
Like, I don't know what to tell 
you. 

1352
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,840
Like like they are, they are 
showing this like law 

1353
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,880
enforcement officer. 
We're like 0 respect. 

1354
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:16,840
She's like, she's one of them 
essentially, right. 

1355
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,120
Yeah. 
I mean, the guys saying it to 

1356
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,840
her specifically is like some 
Delta Force operator. 

1357
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,000
I get it. 
Yeah. 

1358
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,320
Big swinger take ego the size of
a planet because he's fucking SF

1359
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:27,000
Roach. 
I get it. 

1360
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,520
But but they're still on the 
same side. 

1361
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,600
Yeah. 
There's like no sense of team 

1362
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,240
like cohesion there at all. 
You'd think the US government 

1363
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,400
could just like create the sign 
off, could just fake it. 

1364
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,480
You know, he has, he has a 
random signature kind of thing. 

1365
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,400
It's like. 
It's almost a bit naive this 

1366
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:43,440
film now. 
But I mean like. 

1367
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,560
In the current context, if you, 
if you put it against the 

1368
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:50,600
backdrop of like, you know, 
Trump kidnapping the fucking 

1369
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:55,440
dictator in charge of Venezuela,
you know, like unilateral 

1370
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,520
bullshit happening, I don't 
think he cares what side of the 

1371
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,480
border what's going on. 
No, I don't. 

1372
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,800
I don't. 
I don't think he, they're at the

1373
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,840
point now where they are not 
even attempting to lie because 

1374
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:06,200
there's no one to hold them 
accountable. 

1375
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:10,640
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Fucking most crooked DOJ ever, 

1376
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,040
it would seem. 
Yeah. 

1377
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:19,319
OK, so we have a mission brief 
about these these these these 

1378
01:08:19,319 --> 01:08:21,359
tunnels. 
They're getting some humid from 

1379
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,160
a from a local asset during the 
mission brief. 

1380
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,560
Again, movie stuff, isn't it? 
That all happened well 

1381
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,640
beforehand. 
They have that thing where they 

1382
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,479
talk about our way and then they
push it off later. 

1383
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,359
Again, effective for a movie 
would happen in real life, I 

1384
01:08:36,359 --> 01:08:41,200
don't think. 
And then we get like the next, 

1385
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:46,319
the final sort of big set piece,
if you like, which is this route

1386
01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:49,600
in the toes. 
I love the sequence. 

1387
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,399
It looks incredible it. 
Really does, yeah. 

1388
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,399
I want to get a second to shout 
out the use of their image 

1389
01:08:56,399 --> 01:08:59,319
enhancers as part of like the 
visual language of the sequence.

1390
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:03,439
We get like IR camera feed from 
like one guy looking at Kate. 

1391
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:07,279
So we see Kate in her face and 
everything IR very cool. 

1392
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,840
They they swap over to MVGS and 
we check them. 

1393
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,160
Yeah. 
Tooting off, put the MVG on. 

1394
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:16,840
We see the MVG query. 
I don't know how they achieved 

1395
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,439
it in the movie. 
I don't know if either of you 

1396
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,720
guys have worn MVG before, but 
there's a really weird. 

1397
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,640
The only thing I can think of is
it's a bit like, you know when 

1398
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,560
you play an FPS game and you 
open up the console and you can 

1399
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,040
change what the field of vision 
is. 

1400
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,120
There's like, it's like on a 
different setting than real life

1401
01:09:35,279 --> 01:09:36,800
when you look for MVGS. 
It's weird. 

1402
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:40,560
I think that the best way to 
explain it is like feels like if

1403
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:45,279
you're standing sort of half a 
metre behind yourself. 

1404
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,640
Yeah, that's it. 
Yeah, perfect. 

1405
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:52,240
So the ask, ask what's the ROA 
rules of engagement for people 

1406
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,160
who don't know? 
And Josh Brolin's character Matt

1407
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:59,120
says weapons free, my friend. 
Weapons free. 

1408
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:00,880
Right. 
First of all, that's not how you

1409
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,000
give an executive order. 
But again, he's fucking CIA. 

1410
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:04,960
He's a spook. 
He's not a fucking military guy 

1411
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,000
anymore. 
Presumably he was once That's 

1412
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:08,920
that's that's you know, neither 
here nor there. 

1413
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,360
The the other thing is like 
weapons free. 

1414
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:15,400
Just to be clear, weapons free 
is the order to shoot anything 

1415
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,600
that moves. 
It's a crazy bit of our way to 

1416
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,960
to to give off like any like ID 
crit. 

1417
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:22,480
There's no ID crit is going on 
you. 

1418
01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:24,520
You are you're seeing something 
and you're killing it 

1419
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:25,840
immediately and asking questions
later. 

1420
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,840
Whiles to me personally, but 
very easy for me to say it's an 

1421
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,560
armchair warrior. 
I guess I wasn't in that fucking

1422
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,560
tunnel. 
I get it but but. 

1423
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:38,080
Wait a minute, are you telling 
me that you weren't the 15th man

1424
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:41,000
in the tunnel or on the balcony?
I know, right? 

1425
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,160
The ridiculous. 
Before we go back, when they're 

1426
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,120
at the motel, they'd have the 
briefing and, and Kate and and 

1427
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,240
Reggie, like, angrily got to 
their car to pick up their plate

1428
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,000
protective. 
Do you notice that, like Kate 

1429
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,760
puts like 4 plates into a vest? 
Yeah. 

1430
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:56,840
And Reggie puts like one plate 
in his vest. 

1431
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,080
Yeah, what the fuck? 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1432
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:00,600
Because she was like front and 
back. 

1433
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,360
And then he's the important. 
Lucky guy. 

1434
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,760
So they go in the tunnel, MVGS 
come off, go in the tunnel, 

1435
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:09,040
helmet comes off in the tunnel, 
Reggie and Kate gets split up. 

1436
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,680
I think a stray bolt gonna get 
kind of catches the Kate. 

1437
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:14,960
Otherwise I think a gun gets 
shot. 

1438
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:18,400
Yeah, yeah, by the ricochet. 
Kid kids, kids rifle gets hit. 

1439
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,400
So she obviously like Kasich, 
just I guess abandoned it and 

1440
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,640
just switched to a pistol and 
and shake advances on doesn't 

1441
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:30,080
she goes up the wrong tunnel 
exit and she ends up in the 

1442
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,440
garage where they've been 
loading up that police car with 

1443
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,080
with La Cocaina or rather 
unloading it. 

1444
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,280
Yeah, the products. 
And we see Silvio. 

1445
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:42,040
So the world's collide. 
Emily Blunt sees Silvio, the 

1446
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,920
Mexican cop who's obviously 
under a lot of pressure to be 

1447
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:49,320
part of the cartel. 
Yeah, we get that and then we 

1448
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:53,280
get a showdown. 
Alejandro arrives, people 

1449
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,960
recognise him immediately for 
who he is, the Medelline, part 

1450
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,240
of the Medelline Cartel. 
So he's famous guy, obviously 

1451
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:04,640
everyone knows who he is and he 
kills one guy. 

1452
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:10,800
Kate holds her piss up to him 
and is talking to him and 

1453
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,560
without warning whatsoever he 
shoots you in the chest in the 

1454
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,720
in the plates. 
Straight up double taps are, 

1455
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:17,680
yeah. 
Knocked her on the Knox and rash

1456
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:19,240
and says don't ever hold a 
weapon to me again. 

1457
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:24,160
So the mask is off. 
Not that there was much of A 

1458
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,040
mask already like but it's 
interesting because like 

1459
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:31,800
beforehand he'd like saved her 
life from from John Bernthal. 

1460
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,360
It's kind of been saying you 
remind me of like somebody in my

1461
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,080
life. 
Probably his daughter, right, 

1462
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,800
which just paid off later. 
And he's been really nice. 

1463
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,080
She's also been like traumatised
by what happened there. 

1464
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,960
And I think he like kind of 
talks her down a little bit from

1465
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:46,800
the ledge after after attack. 
So I see him like emotionally 

1466
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,800
without a second thought. 
I just put two in the chest and 

1467
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,400
like, sit your ass down. 
Yeah, yeah, he's in. 

1468
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,160
Fuck around. 
Yeah, I can't see seems like 

1469
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:58,240
this anymore without thinking of
I want to take your that bit 

1470
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,640
from striking distance. 
But he's like butter proves 

1471
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:07,320
who's the best cop Jesus 
striking distance ruined me for 

1472
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:10,040
lots of things. 
Now colour professed Jesus 

1473
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:13,040
Christ. 
Wonderful stuff. 

1474
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,480
Dennis Farida, man 18 years a 
detective. 

1475
01:13:15,480 --> 01:13:16,800
I love that fact. 
Gosh. 

1476
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,680
Cool. 
So what do we see? 

1477
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,440
It kind of splits off again, 
doesn't it? 

1478
01:13:21,480 --> 01:13:25,000
You follow half of it kind of is
following Alejandro, which I 

1479
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,360
think we'll we'll come a second.
The other half is Kate. 

1480
01:13:29,440 --> 01:13:30,880
So the rest of the office 
happened. 

1481
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:33,680
Alejandro was supposed to right 
off on his own. 

1482
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,680
He is not not accounted for. 
He is just off on his own little

1483
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,360
side quest now. 
Yeah, the rest of the team is 

1484
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:43,120
like high fiving fucking circle 
jerk tea and stickies like 

1485
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,200
another great clean up, clean 
up. 

1486
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:46,720
They killed a bunch of people 
clean up. 

1487
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:50,600
So lost a weapon clean up. 
He's doing a fuck Reggie's like 

1488
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,280
where's Kate? 
And he's like, I thought she was

1489
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,400
with you fucking high 5 clean 
up. 

1490
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,360
Like haven't even accounted for 
workforce. 

1491
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,600
Ridiculous. 
And then she stumbles out like 

1492
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:01,760
obviously breathing heavily. 
Jess is probably incredibly 

1493
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:05,800
bruised, all that kind of stuff.
And then she swings Josh Brolin,

1494
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:09,440
which is, and this is horrible. 
Swings are really satisfying. 

1495
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,200
Punching the grid, great. 
He froze onto the ground with an

1496
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,200
incredible violence. 
Yeah. 

1497
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:18,520
They tussle for a little bit and
then he kind of forces it into 

1498
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:22,000
the side of a good ditch and 
then forces his knee into her 

1499
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:25,440
throat to cut her airway and 
then holds her head down with 

1500
01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:28,640
the palm of his hand. 
Like you would like a naughty 

1501
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,680
cat if it was like attacking 
you. 

1502
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,080
And until then, she she like, 
calm down, calm down, fucking 

1503
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,040
calm down. 
And it's horrible to see, like 

1504
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,160
humbled, like old country 
fashion, really bad. 

1505
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,400
Don't like seeing it. 
This film is like, there's a lot

1506
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,960
of horrible violence in this 
film, but like the violence that

1507
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:47,640
is happening to Emily Blunt the 
whole way through is like just 

1508
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,040
particularly grim. 
Yeah, this film kicks a shit out

1509
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:56,040
of other whole way through. 
Yeah, you have to imagine, and 

1510
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,560
we'll get to it when we, like, 
do the final scenes. 

1511
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,640
But you have to imagine like, 
like, what was she? 

1512
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,800
What would that character be 
like the day after this movie 

1513
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,240
like she has? 
She's got to be like handing a 

1514
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:11,680
badge and a gun in and just be 
like, fuck this country anyway 

1515
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:15,040
anymore before we go on to 
Alejandro's kind of crowning 

1516
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,640
crowning. 
This is this is just I find 

1517
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,680
interesting how so much of the 
preamble of this film was just 

1518
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:25,400
so they could fucking infiltrate
him in to get close to to this 

1519
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:30,360
this guy and kill him. 
And it's like, did the need to 

1520
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,640
do all this just to give him an 
in? 

1521
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,800
This is where I think Taylor 
Sheridan plays his cards, and I 

1522
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,040
think this is unavoidable in the
screenplay. 

1523
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:39,840
I don't think Denny Villeneuve 
could do anything about this. 

1524
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:43,440
Obviously he's a working 
director, he's taken a job, and 

1525
01:15:43,440 --> 01:15:45,720
he's obviously making someone 
else's screenplay. 

1526
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:49,720
Like, this is where the movie 
kind of shows its hand and says 

1527
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,320
this Alejandro guy, he's really 
cool. 

1528
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:54,680
This guy fucking rules. 
You might not like. 

1529
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,480
You might not like it how he 
does things. 

1530
01:15:56,480 --> 01:16:00,600
You might think it's grotesque, 
abhorrent even, But, oh, isn't 

1531
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:02,240
it fucking cool, though? 
Yeah, man. 

1532
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,480
So yeah, we have the bet in the 
car with Silvio. 

1533
01:16:04,480 --> 01:16:06,440
So he's driving in the back of 
the police cruiser. 

1534
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,880
Yeah. 
Holding the gun to Silvio's 

1535
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:10,520
head. 
And this is like really horrible

1536
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,800
for us because we know, like we 
followed Silvio, he's like, he's

1537
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:15,280
just a dude. 
He's a father. 

1538
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:18,320
He's trying to get by. 
We don't see enough of his life 

1539
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,920
to make a judgement about how he
got into the cartel team was 

1540
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:22,960
sort of super tragic, but it's 
pretty tragic. 

1541
01:16:23,440 --> 01:16:25,560
Yeah. 
Pulls over Diaz. 

1542
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,040
Yeah. 
Who's then pretty grim. 

1543
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:32,040
Like he you're probably cover it
the weaponry, but be kill Silvio

1544
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:33,120
shoots him in the back of the 
head. 

1545
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,560
Yeah. 
And then he shoots and then he 

1546
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,640
like shoots Diaz to wound. 
Yeah. 

1547
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,680
Pretty grim. 
Yeah, get some in the car and 

1548
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:46,880
then drive back. 
Oh, it's the drive to to Diaz's 

1549
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,320
boss's house. 
Like to the to the to the kind 

1550
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,320
of Yeah. 
Like they're like the real, the 

1551
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,280
real, the real hefe of the 
thing. 

1552
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,560
And it is. 
Julio Caesar Cedillo. 

1553
01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:00,520
That's right, and we'll see the 
It's horrible. 

1554
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:04,760
It leads to scenes of just 
family eradication and a little 

1555
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:08,160
bit of kind of verbal 
grandstanding that they probably

1556
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,800
couldn't take out of the film 
because he needed to have some 

1557
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,520
dialogue, right. 
I mean, he couldn't just he he 

1558
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,600
couldn't speak a fucking mute. 
But so he finally delivers the 

1559
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:18,480
exposition that I think was 
probably delivered. 

1560
01:17:18,480 --> 01:17:21,680
Well, yeah. 
In in the original uncut script,

1561
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:26,560
the whole scene, the build up. 
It's the the bit when it's like,

1562
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,760
do they do they speak English? 
Do your children speak English? 

1563
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:35,760
No, they will speak in English. 
So obviously he takes a seat 

1564
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:41,080
with this guy, his wife and the 
children, and he just brutally 

1565
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,560
tells him, you know, that, yeah,
he killed my wife, he killed my 

1566
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:48,880
daughter kind of thing. 
And it just summarily destroys 

1567
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:50,480
the family. 
He shoots the two sons. 

1568
01:17:50,480 --> 01:17:56,080
He shoots the wife and then 
gives the dad, now a widower and

1569
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,520
a father of no one. 
Just moments, moments. 

1570
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:03,920
They're like process the horror 
that he's just witnessed before 

1571
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:05,880
he connects him to God's Wi-Fi 
as well. 

1572
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:07,360
Great bit of restraint there as 
well. 

1573
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,120
So we we see him like obviously 
position the guns. 

1574
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:14,240
Yeah. 
But we cameras laser focused on 

1575
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:17,760
on the the healthiest the drug 
Lords face. 

1576
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:22,480
We only get like a side a 
perspective wise of the everyone

1577
01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:23,640
slimmed over the dead in the 
chairs. 

1578
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:26,160
Yeah, yeah, second, second. 
Like we get like, what a subject

1579
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,800
shot of that for a split second,
and then we cut back onto his 

1580
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:32,080
face again wide. 
And he's he holds the gun up and

1581
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:33,720
he hesitates just a second. 
Yeah. 

1582
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:37,600
And then he's like, yeah, 
pretty, pretty grim stuff. 

1583
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:43,840
And then see that's that's 
that's what so much of America 

1584
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,440
has a military industrial 
complex in this film has been 

1585
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:51,520
working towards Predator drones 
about flights across the border.

1586
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:55,840
They've had kinetic operations. 
All of this so he could go and 

1587
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:57,720
kill a dude, wipe his family out
really, right. 

1588
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,760
I mean. 
That initial obstacle, you know,

1589
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:04,480
Yeah, that that initial obstacle
and get the guy, Yeah, Blackhawk

1590
01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:06,440
flies them to the friggin 
border. 

1591
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,360
Yeah, yeah. 
Like, there's like, there's a 

1592
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:09,880
lot of money put into this, 
right? 

1593
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:11,720
It's a strong statement of 
intent. 

1594
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,320
If you were looking up at the 
skies from the border, it'd seem

1595
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,600
like a Blackhawk flying across. 
Like, yeah, you'll see that 

1596
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,000
every day. 
Okie, dokie. 

1597
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,880
So the next day, Alejandro 
appears in Kate's apartment and 

1598
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,480
forces her at gunpoint to sign a
statement attesting to the 

1599
01:19:26,480 --> 01:19:30,600
entire operation was legal. 
That's an understatement. 

1600
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,520
This is horrible. 
So she's just stood on a 

1601
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:36,160
balcony, tapping away. 
A voice comes from inside the 

1602
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:39,240
apartment saying you should 
avoid standing on balconies for 

1603
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:42,240
a while, Kate. 
She comes inside. 

1604
01:19:42,480 --> 01:19:46,000
He presents the papers. 
He holds her own service weapon 

1605
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:49,200
to her chin while she's like 
crying and trying to think of 

1606
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:50,920
what she going to do. 
She's already threatened to like

1607
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:53,280
expose everything to to Josh 
Brolin. 

1608
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,200
I don't think there's any real 
risk of her following through 

1609
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:56,760
with that, to be honest. 
But we just haven't seen that 

1610
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:58,040
kind of gumption from the 
character. 

1611
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,040
But she's she looks utterly 
defeated. 

1612
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,880
She's like weeping, crying, 
screwing, crying up. 

1613
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,720
She signs the signs of papers 
and she has like. 

1614
01:20:06,480 --> 01:20:09,640
It's like watching a fish, like 
taking out of water, like 

1615
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:13,440
flailing for its life, like on 
the ground as Alejandro leaves 

1616
01:20:13,440 --> 01:20:16,280
and walks across the parking lot
of her her building complex as 

1617
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,640
she pulls out her weapon again 
after having rebuilt it because 

1618
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:21,360
he stripped. 
He strips it as he's leaving. 

1619
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:23,600
She rebuilds it. 
She goes out to the balcony. 

1620
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:27,000
She she aims with it like a nine
mill for still probably like 50 

1621
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:28,400
metres shot. 
It wasn't going to be really 

1622
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,720
likely to hit anyway. 
He turns around, stares her dead

1623
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,000
in the eye, having already said 
to her like the line like this 

1624
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:35,680
is a land of wolves and you are 
not a wolf. 

1625
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:38,080
You should go. 
You should go to some small town

1626
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,280
where the rule of law still 
exists kind of thing. 

1627
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,040
And he just looks at her dead in
the eye. 

1628
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,800
She eventually like just like 
stares her down. 

1629
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:50,440
She kind of like takes the gun 
slightly off aim. 

1630
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:53,800
She then she just lowers it. 
She just looks utterly defeated.

1631
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:55,880
And then he just turned around 
and keeps walking away. 

1632
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,000
And then she's literally this is
like a this is one of the scenes

1633
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:02,440
where they have shallow to the 
depth of field slightly. 

1634
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:05,680
You see her like out of focus in
the background, just like face 

1635
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:08,920
erased, irrelevant. 
Like her. 

1636
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:12,960
Her romance is now ended. 
Just like what a waste. 

1637
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,120
Just used up. 
Just a person, just you just you

1638
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,880
spit like that bit in the guns 
and never own. 

1639
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,040
Do you see what you've done? 
You've used up a good, a 

1640
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:22,360
perfectly good human being. 
It's like that. 

1641
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:25,320
Yeah. 
She's absolutely defeated. 

1642
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:29,000
Horrible, absolutely horrible. 
Great film. 

1643
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:32,600
Yeah. 
Horrible moments around final 

1644
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,360
final final takes on the film I 
guess man think I think I love 

1645
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,400
it slightly less than I did at 
the time. 

1646
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:41,080
I think a lot of my love for the
film is carried by Denny 

1647
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:43,120
Villeneuve and his ever works. 
I think. 

1648
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:46,000
I think the tennis shirt of it 
all has kind of bugged me a 

1649
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:47,040
little bit too much this time 
around. 

1650
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:50,360
I. 
Think this is the third time 

1651
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,920
I've watched this from now. 
I think my opinion of it is 

1652
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,640
largely unchanged. 
I do love it, I think for 

1653
01:21:55,640 --> 01:22:00,120
slightly different reasons, 
because I like now it more 

1654
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,800
because I see how fucking doomed
it is as a film. 

1655
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:10,720
Like, see, a few years have gone
by since I've watched it the 

1656
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:12,800
first time. 
The world is more doomed. 

1657
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:20,680
And it it holds up in a way that
the film makers can be like, 

1658
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:25,040
yeah, it fucking told you so, 
you know, it's it's shot 

1659
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:28,160
beautifully. 
The cinematography is amazing, 

1660
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:32,320
the soundtrack, the score is, is
something else. 

1661
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:33,800
It's an absolute fucking work of
art. 

1662
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:39,920
On a absolute autism note, some 
of the gunfight and it's 

1663
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,560
brilliant. 
But it takes a lot of boxes of 

1664
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,800
things I think are really cool. 
And it's just a really great 

1665
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:49,200
tension piece. 
It keeps the tension ramping up 

1666
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,080
and ramping up and ramping up. 
The whole film. 

1667
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:55,920
There was some moments in it 
that are so beautifully 

1668
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:58,520
evocative. 
These kind of liminal situations

1669
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:02,280
when you really feel like you're
crossing over from one state to 

1670
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,200
another, from one. 
And I've mean that in a kind of 

1671
01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:07,400
emotional or spiritual state 
rather than like a nation state.

1672
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:11,160
These crossing the border 
scenes, the scene when they've 

1673
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,800
been Speaking of all the 
immigrants who've been picked up

1674
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:17,800
and then they're getting bussed 
off and just the kind of, it's 

1675
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:21,120
that special kind of loneliness 
the film evokes. 

1676
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:26,160
You guys will fucking know this 
when they have a job or a duty 

1677
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:30,160
to do that starts before 90% of 
the people in the world are 

1678
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:32,960
fucking up. 
And it's this cold fucking 

1679
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:34,560
loneliness. 
And some of the scenes when it 

1680
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:38,840
begins and it's like it's, it's,
it's a hostile kind of feeling 

1681
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,000
that like it's, it's, it's 
lonesome. 

1682
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:46,440
It's a lonesome film, despite it
being full of people at times. 

1683
01:23:46,440 --> 01:23:48,800
It's a very lonely movie. 
That's a really good point. 

1684
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:50,640
I think that's that's that's 
bang on. 

1685
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:53,040
I think I think you're 
absolutely right about the film 

1686
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:56,280
calling out a big I sold you. 
So on the state of the world, I 

1687
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,760
think I think on that in that 
regard, yeah, I think I think 

1688
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:00,440
they can kind of hold their 
their heads high. 

1689
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:04,680
I think think I've come at it 
with a bit a bit more baggage 

1690
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:05,680
than I probably should have 
done. 

1691
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:09,280
And I, and I think we're 
watching the sequel, I'd 

1692
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:13,000
probably get a lot more pissed. 
So what we don't see is how far 

1693
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:14,560
she's fallen and where she's 
fallen from. 

1694
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,360
We just kind of see, well, you 
see how far she's fallen. 

1695
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:17,520
We don't see where she's fallen 
from. 

1696
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,760
We've seen her with the lie that
she starts the movie believing, 

1697
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,800
which is that she's on the side 
of good injustice working for 

1698
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,120
the FBI. 
And we see at the end of it that

1699
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:29,880
she is irrelevant. 
Not not like damaged, not like 

1700
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:31,520
broken by the events or 
anything. 

1701
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,680
She's rendered irrelevant by the
by the events that happened. 

1702
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,440
She's shown to be powerless. 
Her organisation is shown to be 

1703
01:24:37,440 --> 01:24:39,000
ineffectual. 
And if you were to compare it 

1704
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:40,720
with the scene that we see at 
the very beginning of the movie,

1705
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:43,720
the FBI all working together as 
a team, all on comms, all 

1706
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,720
wearing tactical gear, storing a
house, working together, doing 

1707
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:50,480
on that crusade. 
She is left on her own wearing a

1708
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:54,960
just a pale grey T-shirt, barely
able to operate her service 

1709
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:58,960
weapon streaming, crying. 
I can bloody mess of a person 

1710
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:03,280
all alone who one eye Freddie's 
new way to be seen left bereft 

1711
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,200
in the wind. 
So I think I think this movie 

1712
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:10,600
could have said a bit more about
the state of the world by kind 

1713
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,880
of underpinning her with some 
more values. 

1714
01:25:13,440 --> 01:25:18,400
That's what, yeah. 
To me part of it feels like it's

1715
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:24,160
more sort of documentary of her 
moral decay if you will. 

1716
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:30,920
We're not given a huge amount of
back story, personal law or 

1717
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:33,680
whatever. 
We've made a bunch of of jokes 

1718
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:36,880
about fem cell behaviour earlier
but. 

1719
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,040
Only because that's funny. 
To me, it's sort of implied that

1720
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:44,400
she's someone who has given 
herself to her job so fully. 

1721
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:47,760
Like we we're told she's no 
private life. 

1722
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:49,400
She's not interested into any of
that. 

1723
01:25:49,480 --> 01:25:52,360
Possibly because she at some 
point believed that it was the 

1724
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:57,800
right thing to do. 
Not just gets shattered in the 

1725
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:02,640
end with parts of that we we've 
already we've we've been given 

1726
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:04,840
this already sort of jaded 
character. 

1727
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:09,160
And at the beginning, she's 
operating for the system, but it

1728
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:14,560
has subsumed all her own 
identity already to some point, 

1729
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:20,440
which is see that it gets gets 
and she's made her job, her 

1730
01:26:20,440 --> 01:26:26,640
personality to to a point which 
is breaks her completely to see 

1731
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:30,240
that that doesn't it doesn't 
matter what she does to anyone. 

1732
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,360
I think I think that's something
that people in the military can 

1733
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:35,160
probably empathise with pretty 
well. 

1734
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:39,120
The idea that your identity, 
because your identity gets kind 

1735
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,840
of taken over and supplanted by 
by a new one. 

1736
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:45,400
A set of values that you might 
not be able to articulate before

1737
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:48,240
you joined or especially is 
given to you in, you know, a 

1738
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:50,720
handful of words. 
Curriculum and discipline, 

1739
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,000
respect for others, integrity, 
loyalty that you then like make 

1740
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,840
as part of yourself. 
I think if the veil is lifted 

1741
01:26:56,200 --> 01:27:00,680
and it's shown to be like not 
those things, I think there's 

1742
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:02,640
only two ways you can go, isn't 
it? 

1743
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:05,520
You have a crack or you race the
suck, don't you? 

1744
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:08,360
And she, I think she cracks the 
thing. 

1745
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:11,840
That's the one thing that I 
think I struggle with. 

1746
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,480
And I'd be interested to get 
like emails from, from people 

1747
01:27:14,480 --> 01:27:16,200
who've watched the movie and 
stuff to get their opinion. 

1748
01:27:16,480 --> 01:27:21,040
Is as soon as it's made evident 
that the only reason she's 

1749
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:26,560
invited to the party at all is 
for the legal technicality to 

1750
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:30,160
support the CIA operating on US 
soil, she is giving it out. 

1751
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:35,240
Freddie says he'll back into the
hill if they both leave and and 

1752
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:39,520
depart and through spending the 
works she's the one who says no 

1753
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:43,960
we're staying. 
And I don't get if she's staying

1754
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:47,920
because she wants to keep tabs 
on them and keep it legal or if 

1755
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:52,400
she's staying because it'd be 
too much fucking nose to to be 

1756
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:54,560
the one responsible for ruining 
the OP by leaving. 

1757
01:27:55,360 --> 01:28:00,120
She's afraid of that for like a 
career perspective, or she has 

1758
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,880
this weird big revenge crusade 
thing going on where she feels 

1759
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:07,280
like she has to prove herself to
these guys and affect the real 

1760
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,640
change. 
Or she feels like if I don't go 

1761
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,080
over, the death and bloodshed 
we've seen so far will be for 

1762
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:12,760
nothing. 
I don't know. 

1763
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,320
I'd be interested to see what 
people think of that. 

1764
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,920
I found it really hard to pass. 
Like why she made an affirmative

1765
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:19,520
decision to stay when she hadn't
out. 

1766
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:23,080
Apart from like script writing 
dictates that when someone's at 

1767
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:25,360
the Louis, they have to make a 
positive action to get into the 

1768
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:27,800
third act, which is just some 
like background screen writing 

1769
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,000
stuff. 
What I think is, I think one of 

1770
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,400
the things that makes her not 
walk away is that she doesn't 

1771
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:34,080
want to turn her back on these 
motherfuckers. 

1772
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:37,480
Put your front and your back 
plates in man. 

1773
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:41,160
Yeah, that's true that she'd 
have a bit of a, you know, they 

1774
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:44,680
bit the target on my head. 
I don't know if they would like 

1775
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,000
out and out killer in the middle
of the day, but I think she 

1776
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:48,200
would. 
She'd piss off some people, 

1777
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:50,680
Yeah. 
Yeah, and it is kind of a kind 

1778
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:54,840
of comes consumer roost at the 
end when she's straight up told 

1779
01:28:54,960 --> 01:29:00,320
by Alejandro that she should go 
to a small town somewhere, you 

1780
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:04,200
know, because it's over from 
she's she's going to be, at 

1781
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:09,840
best, no longer protected by the
US government, at worst erased 

1782
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,560
by the US government or people 
working in cahoots with it. 

1783
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,200
Right. 
Yeah, it's pretty grim. 

1784
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:18,800
It's a it's a pity, it's kind of
disappointing that they made 

1785
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,480
another movie and they don't 
address what happened with Kate 

1786
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:23,800
unless they do. 
Let me know. 

1787
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:27,480
Yeah, well, I mean, she's not 
credited as the so I mean, it's 

1788
01:29:27,480 --> 01:29:30,640
either going to be a Poochy died
on the way back to his home 

1789
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:32,080
planet kind of thing. 
Yeah. 

1790
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:36,560
Yeah, yeah, I got a little 
sideways reference to the one 

1791
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:39,680
liberal who nearly. 
Got on the way, Roles, yeah. 

1792
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:43,520
Cool, should we? 
This is the more for the 

1793
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:45,000
comments. 
Should we do some categories? 

1794
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:47,040
Yeah, let's go to the 
categories. 

1795
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:46,000
All right, welcome back. 
So going to the categories for 

1796
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:49,400
this film, we are going to start
up with casting. 

1797
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:53,120
So the the IMDb page for this 
show was a cast of 99. 

1798
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:55,520
So there's been so much research
done into this. 

1799
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:58,080
They've even got a comprehensive
list of the uncredited rules. 

1800
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:00,040
Now, the second film in a row 
that we've done that has a 

1801
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:03,120
connection of the staggeringly 
good Old West miniseries, the 

1802
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:05,680
English Kieran Haynes from The 
Sum of All Fears. 

1803
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:08,600
The last episode we did was in 
it, and so was Emily Blunt 

1804
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:10,680
playing the lead role of 
Cornelia Locke. 

1805
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:12,800
We all know her from such good 
show. 

1806
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:17,040
We all know her from stuff like 
Oppenheimer that we all want to 

1807
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,800
see on the same day as Bobby 
when we were self-employed and 

1808
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:21,640
did I'm drinking or maybe that 
was just me. 

1809
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:27,640
We've got him should have spot 
in foils war in 2003, an episode

1810
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:31,720
in Poirot the remix series 2004 
and she's off in a Hollywood 

1811
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:35,360
devil wears Prada, Charlie 
Wilson's war the Wolfman 

1812
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,200
adjustment Bureau rules coming 
up. 

1813
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,560
She's in disclosure there. 
That's currently in post. 

1814
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:43,520
This film may be a psyop to soft
prepare humanity for the big 

1815
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:45,720
reveal that Ilama was are indeed
real. 

1816
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:47,360
I might be wrong, I might not be
wrong. 

1817
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:50,680
Oh, on that if Did you see the 
interview this week that Barack 

1818
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:51,960
Obama gave? 
No. 

1819
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,040
Regarding shit. 
He was asked about aliens and 

1820
01:31:55,080 --> 01:32:00,040
Area 51, and the guy asked him 
like, so are aliens real? 

1821
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:03,000
And have you ever seen, did you 
get any secret briefings about 

1822
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:04,560
aliens during your time as 
president? 

1823
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,200
And Barry Obama started it by 
really offhandedly going, 

1824
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:11,000
they're real. 
But the idea that I didn't get 

1825
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:15,200
any, there's a conspiracy going 
on in Area 51 or anything that's

1826
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:17,880
that maybe they kept it from the
president. 

1827
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:23,040
But the way he goes, the real, 
it's so good. 

1828
01:32:23,480 --> 01:32:24,920
Let me guess my Barack Obama, by
the way. 

1829
01:32:25,480 --> 01:32:27,320
Let me be clear, aliens are 
real. 

1830
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:29,680
I. 
Fucking. 

1831
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:33,280
Listen to that another part of 
the soft prepare preparation. 

1832
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:36,280
Of the software, I'll tell you 
what, this is not a conspiracy 

1833
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:39,320
theory podcast. 
Yet. 

1834
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:43,400
But yes, holy shit, I'm, I'm, 
I'm quite excited for that film.

1835
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:47,560
Anyway, IMDb also tells us she 
was recently on on on a podcast 

1836
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:51,360
episode as a guest now tells us 
the podcast is called the search

1837
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:53,680
for the silver lining. 
So you're seeing there's a 

1838
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:58,040
chance, right? 
There's a chance this point we 

1839
01:32:58,040 --> 01:32:59,600
are fucked forgetting her as a 
guest. 

1840
01:32:59,920 --> 01:33:03,280
I'm Emily Blunt and welcome to 
Adventures and Taurine, my 

1841
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:06,320
podcast about energy drinks. 
I'm I'm Here with my Husband 

1842
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:09,960
Jack Ryan from the TV show Jack 
Ryan. 

1843
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:14,840
I'm gonna peep in here and I 
feel like her character seems 

1844
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:17,080
like she drinks bang energy, not
monster. 

1845
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:20,840
And I knocked my microphone out,
some of my my headset out. 

1846
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:23,120
Right. 
You've, you've raised something 

1847
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:24,960
here. 
What energy drink would you 

1848
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:26,800
think Jack Ryan would would 
consume? 

1849
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:30,320
I want to say, man, I think Jack
Ryan is a Boy Scout, right? 

1850
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:32,560
Yeah. 
So it's basic bitch. 

1851
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:33,800
He's Red Bull. 
He's Red Bull. 

1852
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:34,560
The. 
Way Red Bull. 

1853
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:36,400
Red Bull all. 
The sugar free one. 

1854
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:39,560
Maybe he sucks, either way he's 
not interesting. 

1855
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:43,440
Korea on the other hand, Power 
horse. 

1856
01:33:43,440 --> 01:33:46,400
Power Horse by African Cup of 
Nations football over the year 

1857
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:48,560
Manual and bio. 
Yes. 

1858
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:52,040
Or. 
You go to Korea's offices of be 

1859
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:55,320
average full of those like half 
the icons of power Horse. 

1860
01:33:56,480 --> 01:34:00,320
Belicio del Toro, an actor who 
needs no introduction, another 

1861
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:05,080
Wolfman alumnus. 
Yep, iconic as among others kids

1862
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:09,360
sitting on car in Madonna's 
Laisla Bonita music video, the 

1863
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:13,200
barely comprehensible Fenster 
and the usual suspects Dr Gonzo 

1864
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:16,400
and fear and Loathan Frank, your
four fingers and snatch shig of 

1865
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:19,040
our and both Part 1 and 2 of 
share because it'll be weird if 

1866
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,960
he was only in Part 1 and on 
Part 2 of us Guardians the 

1867
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:27,520
Galaxy and in Star Wars Episode 
8, The Last Jedi is DJ. 

1868
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:30,280
Oliver. 
Can I say something and no one 

1869
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:32,160
will go on bad with me? 
Yeah. 

1870
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:36,360
DJs whole subplot in the last 
Jedi is along with the 

1871
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:40,400
investigate oriole aspects of 
episode 2 attack the clones, 

1872
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:42,320
right. 
It's it's the closest the live 

1873
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:46,200
action Star Wars universe, the 
EU or the new shit ass Disney 

1874
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:49,720
Canon got a thrill on movie 
content before and or came and 

1875
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:51,440
and or what everywhere and 
change everything. 

1876
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:55,840
And I do like that they had that
little bit of a Shades of Grey 

1877
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:59,600
kind of thrillery bit in in The 
Last Jedi when he's like, oh, is

1878
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:02,120
he the selling the selling the 
starships to both sides kind of 

1879
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:04,080
thing? 
You know, that was kind of 

1880
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:06,320
fucking cool. 
Don't join. 

1881
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:08,080
Yeah. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1882
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:10,720
Don't try and get in. 
Yes, It was in Licence to Kill 

1883
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:13,160
Play and Dario, the youngest man
to play a Bond film. 

1884
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:17,840
Yeah. 
And along with Che Guevara, he 

1885
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:19,720
also previously played Pablo 
Escobar. 

1886
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:22,880
And his most recent Hollywood 
appearance was One battler from 

1887
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:24,280
another. 
You've seen that right, Mike? 

1888
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:27,600
One battle after another. 
That was his most. 

1889
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:29,120
Yes. 
Oh, he's so good. 

1890
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:29,880
He's good. 
He's. 

1891
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:31,360
Brilliant in that he's he's 
wonderful. 

1892
01:35:31,480 --> 01:35:33,600
Yeah. 
He's, oh, he's, he has. 

1893
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:34,960
He does all these great little 
mannerisms. 

1894
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:36,720
He's wonderful. 
He's the heart of the movie for 

1895
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:37,480
me. 
Get in. 

1896
01:35:37,480 --> 01:35:39,920
I've got to say that film next 
bit of casting Gernie Hallock, I

1897
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:44,920
mean Josh Brolin, known known as
many of us as Stanos, he managed

1898
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:47,760
to bring massive amounts of 
pyrthos to a character that 

1899
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:51,200
looked like an intimacy aid from
Bad Dragon Limited. 

1900
01:35:52,480 --> 01:35:55,440
I mean, he did, didn't he? 
The man, the man looks like AW 

1901
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:58,600
sex toy. 
He's just a big purple rib 

1902
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:01,800
nobler. 
And yet he just bestows so much 

1903
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,960
pathos on to on Thanos. 
I think it's brilliant. 

1904
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:10,440
As Korea began playing a current
brand in Goonies, that's Goonies

1905
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:13,680
and not Gooners. 
He was not goon maxing in a goon

1906
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:16,320
cave. 
He's Sean, Austin's Big Brother.

1907
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:17,840
That's right, yeah. 
Yeah. 

1908
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:23,000
And after our Goonies, he really
TV maxed quite a bit. 

1909
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:26,680
Guest slots 21 jump St you had a
guest slot on the highway to 

1910
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:30,160
Heaven, a show in which a 
probationary Angel sent back to 

1911
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:33,480
earth teams up with an ex cop in
what may be one of the most 

1912
01:36:33,480 --> 01:36:37,840
1980s concepts ever. 
March course 2000 he's in hollow

1913
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:43,280
man alongside Kevin Bacon. 
Then he's in 2012, perfectly 

1914
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:47,320
cast as Young Agent Key and Men 
in Black 3 like. 

1915
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:49,480
Oh yeah, but. 
The casting that I think is 

1916
01:36:49,480 --> 01:36:52,560
amazing because if you guys seen
the photos of Tommy Lee Jones 

1917
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,440
when he was playing football for
Harvard. 

1918
01:36:54,440 --> 01:36:57,240
I haven't looked at it now. 
Google that shit, man, Susie. 

1919
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:00,760
Because. 
Because it's uncanny. 

1920
01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:03,200
Holy crap. 
It's uncanny, right? 

1921
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:05,280
You speak loud, isn't he? 
He does is. 

1922
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:06,600
He's got. 
I didn't know he was packing 

1923
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:09,640
that jaw game. 
The jaws on real man, it's like,

1924
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:13,640
yeah, so the similarity, it's 
it's perfect. 

1925
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:17,280
Casting one absolute shot. 
Unbeaten team in 1968. 

1926
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:19,640
Hold those to my camera because 
I can't be bothered to edit and 

1927
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:21,320
properly later. 
There we go. 

1928
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:23,920
Cool. 
Peak male performance in 

1929
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:26,920
general. 
He he's cop maxed a lot. 

1930
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:29,880
He's been lots of like any crime
films in Harold Weiss, American 

1931
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:33,600
gangster Murabuki was in in the 
Valley of Elah, played a Gurney 

1932
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:36,240
Halleck obviously in Dune. 
Both of them. 

1933
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:38,240
For a split second there, sorry,
let's go back a second. 

1934
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:41,480
When you said he played Gurney 
Halleck in Dune, both of them. 

1935
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:44,480
I was like, I got a minute. 
This is Patrick Stewart erasure.

1936
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:48,360
Oh my God, he played Gurney 
Halleck in both of the Danny 

1937
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:51,960
villain of Dunes and that was 
it. 

1938
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:54,640
He's not been in the other ones.
The mood moods, I think so. 

1939
01:37:54,680 --> 01:38:00,720
Capital of Love play. 
Daniel Kaluya, great performer, 

1940
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:04,760
did so much really great British
TV work including Cycloville 

1941
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:07,360
where our first Storm is the 
character team. 

1942
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:11,160
Brilliant. 
The Fades, which is fucking 

1943
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:14,080
amazing. 
The Fades was so good, which ran

1944
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:19,120
for one season and I think I 
want to say 202010, but his 

1945
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:23,600
drama are involving a concept in
which all of the souls of dead 

1946
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:28,280
people haven't been able to kind
of like ascend to heaven because

1947
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:30,320
of all the concrete and shit 
built around them. 

1948
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:33,520
And then there's like bad shit 
happening and it's really 

1949
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:36,960
fucking cool. 
Of course then he goes into 

1950
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:41,240
Hollywood kick us to Sakari were
relatively early in his career. 

1951
01:38:41,440 --> 01:38:44,480
He then does obviously get out 
and Black Panther widows the 

1952
01:38:44,480 --> 01:38:47,920
same year as that played Fred 
Hampton in Judas and the black 

1953
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:53,720
Messiah in 2021. 
The film right it's it's stacked

1954
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:56,120
with prior performances of real 
historical figures. 

1955
01:38:56,120 --> 01:39:00,440
I mean, Del Toro played Shane 
Pablo Brolin played Wild Bill as

1956
01:39:00,440 --> 01:39:03,680
well as doing voice work as 
George Washington and he did 

1957
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:07,320
George W Bush in 2008 W We're 
going to add clueless 

1958
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:10,600
performance of Fred Hampton to 
this to this bag like it's we're

1959
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:13,080
moving on with the with the 
speed and direction of a Delta 

1960
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:14,880
Force team crossing over the 
board. 

1961
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,040
Us to, to to to annihilate 
people. 

1962
01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:22,400
John Bernthal, dirty cop played 
by the highest profile airsoft 

1963
01:39:22,440 --> 01:39:26,000
in all of Hollywood. 
Hashtag our guy. 

1964
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:32,000
What the fuck? 
Yeah, John Bernthal, what a best

1965
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:35,640
guy, the the best Punisher over 
any and all media and I'll fight

1966
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:38,360
people in the street for that. 
A man who when asked his opinion

1967
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:40,920
of members of the alt right and 
white supremacist wearing the 

1968
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:43,560
Punisher skull, said quite 
succinctly, fuck them. 

1969
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:45,640
And he's also a podcast host 
like us. 

1970
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:48,680
That's natural podcast system. 
So there is a chance. 

1971
01:39:49,440 --> 01:39:52,840
There is a chance, narrow as it 
is, but there's a chance 

1972
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:53,800
there's. 
Still a chance. 

1973
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:58,080
Yeah, IMDb. 
He's got his first credit as the

1974
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:02,000
lead in the film in 2002 called 
Mary Slash Mary, a film with a 

1975
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:04,400
following description. 
Strapping lads, this sounds 

1976
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:07,360
fucking mental. 
Money is a young man with a 

1977
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:09,880
serious Madonna slash whore 
complex. 

1978
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:14,160
And a host of manias related to 
sexually transmitted disease. 

1979
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:18,280
Manny's neurosis manifest as a 
pair of quick talk in 1950s 

1980
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:21,440
gangsters who fill his ears with
poisonous propaganda. 

1981
01:40:21,440 --> 01:40:26,600
Whom amongst us hasn't had this 
kind of mental state at some 

1982
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:29,960
point? 
Doesn't that sound mint that? 

1983
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:33,680
Was shit buddy. 
It was super cock. 

1984
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:38,280
You go down for a long time, 
buddy. 

1985
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:45,440
Oh Jesus Christ see how 
following following this guest 

1986
01:40:45,440 --> 01:40:48,320
bots and law and order from 
Lieutenant without trace Boston 

1987
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:51,880
legal. 
As for you say say Miami he he 

1988
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:55,120
really tore up like the early 
mid 2000s prime name starts with

1989
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:57,840
guest appearances. 
He was well cast as Al Capone 

1990
01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:01,360
and Night at the Museum, Battle 
of the Smithsonian and another 

1991
01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:03,840
another historical figure played
back from this. 

1992
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:08,960
Absolute, absolute peak. 
Yeah, he just kind of goes in 

1993
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:11,440
more like Copper and Thriller 
Maxing again, Rampart, Harry's 

1994
01:41:11,440 --> 01:41:14,480
Law will for Wall Street. 
He's he's in the accountant and 

1995
01:41:14,480 --> 01:41:17,640
the accountant too. 
He's the brother of Ben Affleck.

1996
01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:20,960
That's right, I I assume he's 
like the non autistic one? 

1997
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:23,360
I haven't watched like either of
the films but. 

1998
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:26,640
I've watched the second one and 
it didn't review very well, but 

1999
01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:28,280
I watched the first one and I 
quite enjoyed it. 

2000
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:30,960
Yeah, yeah, right. 
He plays he plays the burnout 

2001
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:35,600
bad guy, but but not not 
autistic so he's looking after 

2002
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:39,000
his brother kind of thing. 
Yeah, like as I saw people on 

2003
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:42,400
our slash tactical gear saying 
that is lured out in the 

2004
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:46,200
promotion stills for the sequel 
look legit and tight. 

2005
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:48,960
So it's like it's it's it's 
that's the power of being an ass

2006
01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:50,360
off from Hollywood, baby. 
Yeah. 

2007
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:53,400
And obviously he was. 
He was huge in that Walking Dead

2008
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:56,200
and Rory here leaving the best 
for last at the Netflix 

2009
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:57,200
Punisher. 
So good. 

2010
01:41:57,240 --> 01:41:58,360
Perfect. 
No notes. 

2011
01:41:58,440 --> 01:42:01,000
No fucking notes. 
Fury as well. 

2012
01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:04,680
Fury was fucking brave. 
Yeah, Kunas in Fury, right? 

2013
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:06,600
He was brilliant. 
He was he was in that's right. 

2014
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:09,360
And he was in his and hers 
recently on on Netflix, which is

2015
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:12,120
actually a perfect example of 
one of those Netflix shows which

2016
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:14,520
has the really shallow depth of 
field thing really pisses me 

2017
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:16,360
off. 
But John Bonfield's great in it 

2018
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:17,240
though. 
Hell. 

2019
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:19,480
And so it's Pablo and so it's 
Pablo Srina. 

2020
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:23,600
So go get. 
That Oh my God yeah going into 

2021
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:26,920
Jeffrey Donovan who plays Steve 
Forson with you and by the way 

2022
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:29,680
the tactical guitar and gun 
fucker end of the Internet in 

2023
01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:33,640
which I dwell is obsessed people
people, people love this guide 

2024
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:36,840
was suspicious and kind of 
erotic level like it's it's kind

2025
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:38,640
of wild. 
He's been canonised by the 

2026
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:41,680
public discourse based just on 
this film has made a proxy for 

2027
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:46,840
Sergeant made from Mike Vining 
the the legend of Delta force. 

2028
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:49,400
He was also a podcast host now, 
but there's been no fucking 

2029
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:52,720
chance even when people are 
given the films equipment and 

2030
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:55,040
tactics shit on on Reddit and 
stuff. 

2031
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:58,040
Steve Steve forcing gets a pass 
as well as the star. 

2032
01:42:58,040 --> 01:42:59,920
He's been a huge that guy for 
cop shows. 

2033
01:42:59,920 --> 01:43:01,400
He did homicide life on the 
street. 

2034
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:04,920
He was a lead in the NYPD cop 
show The beat back in 2000. 

2035
01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:09,920
Spot and say say Miami he's 
played two of the Kennedys. 

2036
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:14,200
He played Bobby Kennedy and J 
Edgar not a film about the guy 

2037
01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:18,080
from Bosch and John F Kennedy in
2016 is LBJI thought that was 

2038
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:22,040
pretty cool staying on the quote
and quote good guy American side

2039
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:26,200
casting we've got Victor GABA 
was Dave Jennings major film 

2040
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:29,360
appearances including Argo and 
Titanic TV performances. 

2041
01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:32,160
He had a long run alias. 
I think that's what most people 

2042
01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:35,840
from like watching Sky TV in the
early 90s what when they were 

2043
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:38,280
unemployed sorry fun employed. 
There's a difference. 

2044
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:42,280
Would would remember him from 
just Alias Maxson. 2 episodes of

2045
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:43,520
Alias a day. 
Get it? 

2046
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:45,560
It's always steal your 
sandwiches here unless you in 

2047
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:47,880
case you in case you do want to 
mention it, but you also play 

2048
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:51,960
plays Frazier's Butler in one of
the sort of Frazier. 

2049
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:54,240
That's right, that's right, 
that's right. 

2050
01:43:54,480 --> 01:43:59,200
He did like guess. 
Scott guest slots in a Kung Fu 

2051
01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:02,440
legend, continues Sleepy Hollow.
He was in the Outer Limits 

2052
01:44:02,440 --> 01:44:06,480
reboot using blue bloods, ugly 
Betty using arrow. 

2053
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:09,720
He's done so much. 
Just the real real of that guy 

2054
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:12,600
work like he's. 
He's also the guy in charge of 

2055
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:14,600
admissions at Harvard in Legally
Blonde. 

2056
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:16,240
Holy. 
Shit, that's right. 

2057
01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:18,680
My God, Interesting, interesting
casting, man. 

2058
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:22,960
Go to the section weapons free 
when we talk about guns and gear

2059
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:25,080
and all this shit. 
This film, believe it or not, is

2060
01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:29,640
really polarising in in like, 
you know, the gun fucker and 

2061
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:34,120
ghetto discourse on on the on 
lines, the traffic jam firefight

2062
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:37,040
source, and everyone can can 
agree that it's absolutely 

2063
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:38,720
class. 
Like I said, I keep saying the 

2064
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:42,040
films like a nonstop tension 
piece, right, And after all this

2065
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:45,520
build up of tension leading the 
explosive, yet measured in 

2066
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:48,040
fucking brief release of this, 
it's a highlight. 

2067
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:51,280
It's an early highlight of the 
film, but it gets guns wrong at 

2068
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:52,880
times, right? 
That's the biggest fucking 

2069
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:55,440
syllable. 
Did you notice that Alejandro's 

2070
01:44:55,440 --> 01:44:58,000
like weapon changes multiple 
times? 

2071
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:03,920
No, no, no. 
In firing scenes. 

2072
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:06,600
Long type of autism, Rory. 
Not fair enough. 

2073
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:08,720
You you got you got a Land Rover
autism. 

2074
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:12,160
I got the weapon IP autism. 
I've got his classical getting a

2075
01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:16,240
metro network autism. 
Infrastructure autism. 

2076
01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:19,680
I am really. 
Getting into multi static sonar 

2077
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:21,680
detection. 
At the moment I do not have time

2078
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:25,560
for handle. 
Well, good job I'm fucking here,

2079
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:28,600
isn't it? 
So in firing scenes is used in 

2080
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:33,160
the hacker and cock MP5A3 with a
suppressor and optical sight 

2081
01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:34,840
like correctly attached to the 
rail. 

2082
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:38,680
In non firing scenes for some 
reason is used in the MP5 SD 3 

2083
01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:42,560
the the integrally suppressed 1 
with this optical sight fucking 

2084
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:47,000
attachment get you escaped from 
talk of scavenger. 

2085
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:48,720
Build out my fucking key to a 
man. 

2086
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:50,520
I've got no idea why they did 
this. 

2087
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:53,480
Maybe like a shortage of the 
weapon for other scenes. 

2088
01:45:53,480 --> 01:45:55,000
Maybe they just had it for one 
day. 

2089
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:58,720
I know the hat because like I 
know they had the the FLIR 

2090
01:45:58,720 --> 01:46:01,680
camera for just one day for like
the night vision shots. 

2091
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:03,880
But yeah, that's fucking wild to
me. 

2092
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:06,360
Like you can clearly see the 
scenes when he's using a 

2093
01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:09,960
different gun with fucking in 
point site taped onto it. 

2094
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:12,760
And like that will fly in escape
from talk of me. 

2095
01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:16,240
That's that's get get your 
fallout shit out of my keno. 

2096
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:22,240
We'll see lots of AR15M4 type 
rifles and carbines and in in 

2097
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:24,200
the hands of the quote UN quote 
good guys. 

2098
01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:27,720
So you see the Mexican Federal 
is using the old school M4A ones

2099
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:30,240
for the clamshell grips and 
carry handles because carry 

2100
01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:33,200
handle gang get the fuck out of 
here with the EO tax man. 

2101
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:37,960
Actually don't put Matt Griff 
has running an ex fucking very 

2102
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:40,720
expensive rifle. 
It's a fucking Daniel Defence 

2103
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:43,360
M4A1 because he thinks he's 
Johnny Big bollocks. 

2104
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:45,680
That's a 2 1/2 thousand dollar 
rifle boom stock. 

2105
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:49,080
So it's clear you sure that he's
he's the Johnny Big Bollocks who

2106
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:51,760
gets to bring his own one from 
home and the rest of the guys? 

2107
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:54,800
From home value as it gets 
older. 

2108
01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:56,640
Yeah. 
Cheap 400 LB rifle. 

2109
01:46:56,840 --> 01:47:04,360
Yeah, and what one of the one of
the Delta Force guys for some 

2110
01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:06,880
reason, because he's because 
he's a free think I run out of 

2111
01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:10,880
fucking robot like the rescue 
fools has a hegron cock. 

2112
01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:17,160
G36CI guess he thinks that like 
Nate or STANAG magazines on 

2113
01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:19,760
important and cross 
compatibility of ammunition 

2114
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:25,840
isn't important and cool range 
of AKS cartel hitman uses an 

2115
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:27,840
AK1O3 That thought was pretty 
cool. 

2116
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:32,280
There's a really cool Blake and 
you miss it of like a Smith and 

2117
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:36,640
Wesson 76 submachine gun, which 
I thought was actually called 

2118
01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:41,120
Gustav M45 when I saw it in like
in like a guy's a guy's vehicle 

2119
01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:43,800
and and I clearly got that 
wrong. 

2120
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:48,040
How do 50 Hail Marys this 
morning and hit myself really 

2121
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:51,560
hard? 
So much you're like flattening 

2122
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:54,120
yourself. 
Like like that guy and the Da 

2123
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:54,920
Vinci Code. 
Oh my. 

2124
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:58,000
God, that's sort of like, look 
at it, mirror what? 

2125
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:02,560
I do call myself a twat. 
May I maxima Copa? 

2126
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:04,400
Yeah, so. 
Yeah, it's like. 

2127
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:07,600
You know, we've I'm sorry I have
to interrupt your gun. 

2128
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:12,480
No, please, please. 
Every time AG30 pops up in pop 

2129
01:48:12,480 --> 01:48:16,880
culture for some reason you just
know immediately that the guy 

2130
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:23,960
wielding it is a massive cunt. 
Like what did my service weapon 

2131
01:48:23,960 --> 01:48:27,240
do to you people? 
That is actually a good point 

2132
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:28,680
really, isn't it? 
I mean. 

2133
01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:32,080
It's across everything, it's 
even in Doctor Who all the 

2134
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:35,920
annoying UNIT fucks that get 
into everyone's ways or every 

2135
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:42,040
stupid space militia has AG 36 
and I'm just sat here like first

2136
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:46,160
of all why is this gun 
everywhere and why is it always 

2137
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:49,320
the cunts? 
I think, I think Jason Statham 

2138
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:53,920
uses one in Ghosts of Mars, and 
I think he's a bit of a cunt in 

2139
01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:56,040
that film too. 
So yeah, you've got a point, 

2140
01:48:56,040 --> 01:49:00,880
actually, trivia trivia that I 
really enjoyed. 

2141
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:04,120
So Emily Blunt was so sick from 
food poisoning while filming in 

2142
01:49:04,120 --> 01:49:06,120
Mexico that she required IV 
fluids. 

2143
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:08,400
But it takes just to make it 
through our scenes. 

2144
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:10,280
That's fucking dedication of the
bit, right? 

2145
01:49:11,640 --> 01:49:14,920
But also it shows once again the
film just punished the actress 

2146
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:18,080
as well as the character quite 
quite brutally. 

2147
01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:22,440
The the Wild Pony bar around NM 
for is no more. 

2148
01:49:22,440 --> 01:49:25,520
That's the bar when the weather 
went to get, you know, shagged 

2149
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:28,200
by the Punisher. 
In 2015, a fatal gang shooting 

2150
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:31,320
occurred between the Bandidos 
and Poor Boys outlaw motorcycle 

2151
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:33,240
clubs. 
The bar was close to some time, 

2152
01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:34,800
but it was late. 
I renovated to become the 

2153
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:38,080
Horseshoe, which is not a bar 
but rather a public meeting 

2154
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:40,120
place. 
I love these like open source 

2155
01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:42,280
things and IMDb. 
Yeah. 

2156
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:45,320
The iconic look for Steve 
Forsings, specifically the 

2157
01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:48,160
chunky smiling I wear glasses 
and unassumingly dirty 

2158
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:51,560
appearance was modelled after 
William Bill F Cronin the Third,

2159
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:54,680
a real life retired Delta Force 
operator who served on Norman 

2160
01:49:54,680 --> 01:49:58,400
Schwarzkopf security detail so 
not make violent everyone says 

2161
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:02,840
question of the team. 
Where the hell are we putting 

2162
01:50:03,640 --> 01:50:06,440
Columbo into this film? 
Where can we jump it? 

2163
01:50:06,440 --> 01:50:08,640
A Falcon? 
I think he's too pure and too 

2164
01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:10,600
good for this film. 
But we've got to find a way to 

2165
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:13,000
fucking fit them in. 
Yeah, wow. 

2166
01:50:13,720 --> 01:50:18,280
And right here we go. 
When she goes to, is a white 

2167
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:20,240
pony, it's called. 
The. 

2168
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:23,240
Wild Pony. 
Wild pony, yeah. 

2169
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:24,280
Wild pony. 
Yeah. 

2170
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:28,600
She she just got served by like 
a really, really old geriatric 

2171
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:29,920
bartender. 
That's the guy. 

2172
01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:32,840
That's the guy, isn't it? 
That's the guy. 

2173
01:50:33,480 --> 01:50:40,600
I really couldn't see him being 
the one of the kind of law 

2174
01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:44,600
enforcement power brokers kind 
of bringing her in for the for 

2175
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:46,200
the meeting. 
And I couldn't see him obviously

2176
01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:49,200
being anyone of the cartel site 
I like because he's just too 

2177
01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:51,800
fucking decent of a dude. 
Yeah. 

2178
01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:54,600
Anybody have any stand out 
quotes from the film that they 

2179
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:56,160
like? 
God, that's a really good 

2180
01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:59,040
question actually, You know, 
it's, it's not super quotable. 

2181
01:50:59,120 --> 01:50:59,800
I. 
Struggled. 

2182
01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:03,360
Yeah, there's, there's there's 
literally penicillin, Toro 

2183
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:07,840
saying this is a land of wolves 
and you're not a wolf God. 

2184
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:08,960
Yeah. 
What else is there? 

2185
01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:12,640
Nothing will make sense to your 
American years, and you will 

2186
01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:14,640
doubt everything that we do. 
But in the end, you will 

2187
01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:17,800
understand. 
Like, oh, no, man, I don't. 

2188
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:19,440
I don't love the dialogue in 
this movie. 

2189
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:22,320
You should move to a small town 
where the rule of law still 

2190
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:23,640
exists. 
You will not survive here. 

2191
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:25,240
You're not a wolf. 
And this is the land of wolves. 

2192
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:26,960
Now that's the full quote. 
Yeah. 

2193
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:30,160
That's cool. 
Yeah, it's not much. 

2194
01:51:30,200 --> 01:51:33,080
I mean, like, you know what, 
it's interesting. 

2195
01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:36,320
I mentioned earlier on they they
took out like 90% of Alejandro's

2196
01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:38,160
dialogue. 
All the cool, cool to still 

2197
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:41,640
Alandro. 
Like he would have just been a 

2198
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:45,640
quota machine I imagine. 
Yeah, it's it's it's definitely 

2199
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:48,800
doesn't have film less. 
It doesn't really have like a 

2200
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:51,760
lot of lines that go super hard.
It's not like an eminently 

2201
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:54,800
eminently, yet it's not again, 
you run dialogue from the slum 

2202
01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:56,400
of the pub. 
You mates kind of thing, you 

2203
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:58,520
know. 
The only one I like that isn't 

2204
01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:01,480
Alejandro is Kate on the initial
meeting going what's her 

2205
01:52:01,480 --> 01:52:04,320
objective and then Matt grinning
like a real shit eating grin on 

2206
01:52:04,320 --> 01:52:07,240
her face and goes to 
dramatically overreact. 

2207
01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:11,040
Yeah. 
Wow cool, I'll write that up as 

2208
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:13,160
the command name. 
Shall I fucking speed up the 12 

2209
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:14,720
knots for comprar environment 
surface? 

2210
01:52:15,040 --> 01:52:17,160
OK, Jesus. 
Yeah, I think, I think, I think 

2211
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:20,400
that's probably one of the one, 
one of the more colour lines of 

2212
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:22,080
the film. 
Be honest Sonia that any that 

2213
01:52:22,080 --> 01:52:27,280
any quotes impress you. 
Not really, I've had this on the

2214
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:29,640
back of my head head from 
earlier. 

2215
01:52:32,440 --> 01:52:38,400
Well I've been wondering if this
film would possibly still work 

2216
01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:42,760
if it had sound but none of the 
dialogue. 

2217
01:52:43,480 --> 01:52:47,600
That's actually because a lot of
the is just the soundtrack and 

2218
01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:53,800
gun noises, and much of the 
suspense is not from dialogue 

2219
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:57,560
but just the soundtrack. 
And when it comes to to all the 

2220
01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:02,320
tactical stuff, it's all just 
hand signs and gestures and 

2221
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:06,080
pointing anyway, so the the 
dialogue isn't really needed 

2222
01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:08,760
there either. 
Phil have talked about making 

2223
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:14,400
Dune Part 2 to a silent film in 
the this is like in the press 

2224
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:16,960
run up to it and everything. 
Yeah, obviously, obviously it 

2225
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:18,560
couldn't have been. 
I mean, it's a film that's 

2226
01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:20,960
famous for having one really 
good speech, for example. 

2227
01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:23,920
He doesn't like, he doesn't, he 
doesn't think that film should 

2228
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:25,880
be a medium which is given to by
dialogue. 

2229
01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:29,080
He thinks that dialogue is 
overtaken film and has ruined 

2230
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:30,720
the art form as a visual art 
form. 

2231
01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:32,560
And he has. 
And obviously he would love to 

2232
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:34,880
do probably a silent film if he 
had the power to. 

2233
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:35,880
I think. 
I think it's a really 

2234
01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:37,560
interesting point. 
It pretty much works. 

2235
01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:39,640
Yeah, definitely, definitely. 
It's actually really fucking 

2236
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:40,320
good. 
I like that. 

2237
01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:43,280
I would really watch that. 
Yeah, I would. 

2238
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:46,680
I would watch the photo. 
Definitely have you guys. 

2239
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:49,880
I love doing this shit right? 
Have you guys seen the Steven 

2240
01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:52,080
Sudeburg cut of Red as the Lost 
Ark? 

2241
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:56,040
No, I have not. 
He recuts the film in black and 

2242
01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:59,880
white and he removes all the 
soundtrack apart from any re 

2243
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:03,200
cuts it with Trent Reznor and 
Atticus Ross's score from The 

2244
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:06,640
Social Network. 
And the film still makes perfect

2245
01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:07,440
sense. 
Now, I don't know if that's 

2246
01:54:07,440 --> 01:54:09,840
because partially because I know
that from like the back of my 

2247
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:13,760
hand, but also the visual 
storytelling of it works like 

2248
01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:15,800
the emphasis put on the right 
objects. 

2249
01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:17,720
You know what the Mcguffins are,
You know what they're trying to 

2250
01:54:17,720 --> 01:54:19,200
find. 
You know who the fucking bad 

2251
01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:21,280
guys are. 
You know who the good guys are. 

2252
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:24,000
You understand the relationships
because people are very broad in

2253
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:25,200
the film. 
Yeah. 

2254
01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:30,520
It's amazing how well it works 
and it's a testament to Douglas 

2255
01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:32,960
Lookum's like cinematography as 
well that even when they've 

2256
01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:36,240
taken all the colour out, the 
images are so striking and it 

2257
01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:39,280
looks absolutely astounding. 
Yeah, I highly recommend that. 

2258
01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:41,600
He's hosting it for free, I 
think on on his website. 

2259
01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:43,080
That's. 
Fucking class, that's so. 

2260
01:54:43,200 --> 01:54:44,560
Cool. 
Worth a look? 

2261
01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:45,960
Yeah. 
Fascinating. 

2262
01:54:45,960 --> 01:54:50,520
Got. 
It we've got a the the Ding 

2263
01:54:50,520 --> 01:54:53,920
Chavez Award for missed 
opportunity in the film. 

2264
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:55,720
What's the most missed 
opportunity? 

2265
01:54:55,720 --> 01:54:58,920
The biggest missed opportunity 
this film has Go go go poise. 

2266
01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:03,560
Man, serious answer is 
development for Kate, 100%, I 

2267
01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:06,240
think. 
Yeah, I think I was going to say

2268
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:08,960
like a fun answer, man, this is 
not a fun film. 

2269
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:11,560
There's something there's not 
like that much fun you can have 

2270
01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:13,880
with it. 
Especially right now while 

2271
01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:16,640
watching the news. 
Yeah, exactly. 

2272
01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:18,680
There, there is a bit, I don't 
know if you noticed it. 

2273
01:55:18,920 --> 01:55:20,680
This isn't a missed opportunity.
It's something I noticed in the 

2274
01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:24,520
detail when they're having that 
meeting about the the bank money

2275
01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:27,440
laundering sting they did before
they go to that, that again, 

2276
01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:29,760
it's like a really plain office.
It's a random building. 

2277
01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:34,240
There's ATV playing on a wall 
and the news story is about a 

2278
01:55:34,240 --> 01:55:36,040
massive uptick to funding for 
ICE. 

2279
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:39,280
And let's think all the like 
recruit like 10,000 more ice 

2280
01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:41,320
officers or something. 
That's like fucking hell, man. 

2281
01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:44,560
That's like a bit too real. 
Too real. 

2282
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:47,000
I mean, you've got to think that
ICE is more funded right now 

2283
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:50,080
than the Canadian Defence Force.
Oh it's crazy. 

2284
01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:52,360
That's mad. 
I was I was blown away when I 

2285
01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:57,320
watched them in episode was 
season 2 or 3 of Bosch. 

2286
01:55:57,360 --> 01:56:01,000
And there's some ICE agents 
appear in it briefly and they're

2287
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:06,000
just wearing like blue jeans, 
white T-shirts and like black 

2288
01:56:06,120 --> 01:56:08,800
plate carriers with ice on them.
And it's like they're not, 

2289
01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:11,000
they're not like wearing all 
like the face coverings and 

2290
01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:12,680
shit. 
They're not, they're not like in

2291
01:56:12,680 --> 01:56:15,120
in, in fucking green. 
And it's just wild. 

2292
01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:18,000
It's like, but when, when you 
think how like, I mean the 

2293
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:22,200
protagonist, one of the, well, I
guess the jutor agonist of 

2294
01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:27,360
Machete was an ICE agent fucking
the fucking good gal or the one 

2295
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:29,360
of the good guys. 
You know, she, she, she, she 

2296
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:32,760
was, I'm sure she was either an 
ICE agent like a CDP agent. 

2297
01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:37,120
ICE started like in 2003, I 
think is really new 

2298
01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:38,360
organisation. 
It was. 

2299
01:56:38,360 --> 01:56:42,600
It was fun because like the 
wound up that got rid of INS and

2300
01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:46,080
replaced it with ice. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2301
01:56:46,080 --> 01:56:49,080
It's interesting. 
So obviously Bosch and this 

2302
01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:51,680
film, obviously this film came 
out in 2015. 

2303
01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:54,280
So Presidential Race was 
obviously written and and 

2304
01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:57,920
produced during the final years 
of the Obama administration. 

2305
01:56:57,960 --> 01:57:00,480
Bosch came out like in the right
in the middle of the Obama 

2306
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:04,880
administration and at that time 
there's a lot of news stories 

2307
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:07,600
about the humongous amount of 
deportations that were happening

2308
01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:10,320
under that that administration. 
I'm not going to attend. 

2309
01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:12,960
It's like a new issue that is 
just sprung up overnight, like 

2310
01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:15,480
like that's been happening for a
really, really long time. 

2311
01:57:15,600 --> 01:57:18,760
The differences is that the 
people enforcing it and doing it

2312
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:21,040
were like hiding their face. 
They weren't stopping people in 

2313
01:57:21,040 --> 01:57:22,080
the street. 
They weren't shooting and 

2314
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:24,160
killing people. 
They weren't necessarily always 

2315
01:57:24,160 --> 01:57:25,800
splitting up families. 
There was a bit of that, 

2316
01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:29,440
definitely, but there was 
generally like a bit of a due 

2317
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:31,800
process going on with people. 
Yes, it were detained. 

2318
01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:35,680
Yes, people would deport people 
deployed, but that kind of is 

2319
01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:38,320
just like the system I guess 
working to a certain extent. 

2320
01:57:38,320 --> 01:57:40,480
I don't want to get like super 
deep into that issue. 

2321
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:45,800
But yeah, prescience that the 
humongous influx of funding is 

2322
01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:49,400
that particular organisation is 
is got like a little bit of a 

2323
01:57:49,400 --> 01:57:51,360
lamp shade in this movie is 
really small detail. 

2324
01:57:51,600 --> 01:57:54,680
Yeah, yeah, I guess. 
I guess that is the one three 

2325
01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:58,200
letter agency that doesn't get 
any real input into this film. 

2326
01:57:58,680 --> 01:58:02,680
Yeah, there were guys I've 
credited in the film as ICE 

2327
01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:04,160
agents. 
Yeah. 

2328
01:58:04,160 --> 01:58:07,120
So then obviously the guys 
handling the yeah. 

2329
01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:10,160
So that's the guys that they 
speak to in Tucson at that that 

2330
01:58:10,160 --> 01:58:12,800
depot where all those coach, all
those coaches are at. 

2331
01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:16,120
Yeah. 
So it's a mix of CBP and ICE at 

2332
01:58:16,120 --> 01:58:18,480
the the kind of truck stop area,
Yeah. 

2333
01:58:18,920 --> 01:58:21,920
Yeah. 
But yeah, we don't dig into 

2334
01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:23,560
that. 
I guess I'd be really interested

2335
01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:27,720
to see and this would really pin
Taylor Sheridan's colours to the

2336
01:58:27,720 --> 01:58:30,280
mast here. 
If if they make a third one and 

2337
01:58:30,280 --> 01:58:33,640
ice are involved in it, what 
that that what format takes, 

2338
01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:36,520
because I would I would. 
I don't know his. 

2339
01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:38,600
I think he's one of those people
who's quite truly tries to keep 

2340
01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:41,440
his politics to himself and 
doesn't doesn't doesn't say what

2341
01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:43,320
he believes. 
In my experience, those people 

2342
01:58:43,320 --> 01:58:45,000
tend to be fucking maggots, 
right. 

2343
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:47,800
So, so I wouldn't be surprised. 
I don't want to accuse him. 

2344
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:50,120
If anyone's got like fucking 
evidence of the country, that's 

2345
01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:51,560
fine, sends it in, whatever. 
But. 

2346
01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:55,320
Answers that, of course what? 
Yeah, all I would say is if I 

2347
01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:57,680
can, if it walks like a duck and
quite like a fucking duck, man. 

2348
01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:01,240
I mean, we're going to do it 
right if like Sicario 3 comes 

2349
01:59:01,240 --> 01:59:04,800
out and fucking Jason Aldean 
sings the theme tune, sure. 

2350
01:59:05,480 --> 01:59:08,280
And it's just a rework of Try 
that at a small town. 

2351
01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:13,240
Yeah, fuck it out. 
President Trump, please make 

2352
01:59:13,240 --> 01:59:19,160
enemy real. 
I want to go one piece. 

2353
01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:21,640
I want to know how it feels. 
Yeah, OK. 

2354
01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:28,080
Oh my God, yeah. 
The the proof will be in the 

2355
01:59:28,080 --> 01:59:29,600
fucking pudding. 
What's that? 

2356
01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:36,080
We have the this was one that 
Mike has been running for a few 

2357
01:59:36,080 --> 01:59:38,880
episodes now, and I think that's
going to be pertinent here. 

2358
01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:42,760
The The Jack Ryan's shopping 
list category, The one item, 

2359
01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:47,360
thing or act in the film that 
humanises a character who's 

2360
01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:51,440
otherwise a hard bitten part of 
the military industrial complex.

2361
01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:57,240
Indian Creek cigarettes for me 
for for Kate it's the brand 

2362
01:59:57,240 --> 02:00:00,480
created for the movie that she 
that she starts tabbing away. 

2363
02:00:00,560 --> 02:00:03,960
Clearly she used to be a smoker 
has now fallen hard on being a 

2364
02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:07,280
smoke again. 
Straightaway classic someone's 

2365
02:00:07,880 --> 02:00:11,440
someone's not looking after 
themselves a like a cosmic you 

2366
02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:13,080
will for the self destruction 
that she goes through by 

2367
02:00:13,080 --> 02:00:15,720
insisting she gets themselves 
keeps herselves involved in this

2368
02:00:15,720 --> 02:00:17,800
this whole thing. 
The Biggins as well. 

2369
02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:19,360
Like the proper super king 
length on that. 

2370
02:00:19,360 --> 02:00:21,080
The real like fucking cowboy 
killers. 

2371
02:00:21,080 --> 02:00:22,880
I mean she doesn't fuck around 
to be fair like. 

2372
02:00:23,600 --> 02:00:25,880
Yeah. 
Sunny, how about yourself? 

2373
02:00:25,880 --> 02:00:28,400
Anything this film that 
particularly humanises these 

2374
02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:32,480
otherwise badasses? 
Hard asses mean cunts. 

2375
02:00:33,680 --> 02:00:37,040
Not really, no. 
You, I mean previously you when,

2376
02:00:37,040 --> 02:00:39,840
when talking about weapons, 
you've given us the opposite of 

2377
02:00:39,840 --> 02:00:41,120
that. 
Yeah. 

2378
02:00:41,640 --> 02:00:45,560
It's like someone bringing their
Gucci gear, special kid 

2379
02:00:46,720 --> 02:00:53,200
particular own gun just serves 
to to basically dehumanise him 

2380
02:00:53,200 --> 02:00:55,680
further. 
It's very far point. 

2381
02:00:56,400 --> 02:01:00,400
But that's that's apart from the
cigarettes, that's all all we 

2382
02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:02,840
get. 
Yeah, the cigarettes are pretty 

2383
02:01:02,840 --> 02:01:06,680
much like the only kind of like,
like it's kind of it's kind of a

2384
02:01:06,680 --> 02:01:10,880
link to to like a normal 
nonviolent life, I guess. 

2385
02:01:10,880 --> 02:01:12,280
Very, very good assessment, 
dude. 

2386
02:01:12,440 --> 02:01:16,280
Most egregious oversell of the 
MIC, Most egregious oversell and

2387
02:01:16,280 --> 02:01:18,160
build industrial complex in this
fucking film. 

2388
02:01:18,160 --> 02:01:19,680
This is going to be a doozy, 
guys. 

2389
02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:22,200
That's cool. 
I don't 100% know yet. 

2390
02:01:22,200 --> 02:01:24,800
There's a few bits I think. 
Do they need a Blackhawk to get 

2391
02:01:24,800 --> 02:01:27,840
to El Paso from? 
They've already flown from a 

2392
02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:30,120
Look Air Force Base to the 
nearby Air Force Base. 

2393
02:01:30,720 --> 02:01:34,560
It is a bit of a flex, right? 
Yeah, some providing. 

2394
02:01:35,240 --> 02:01:36,480
It's not providing the Overwatch
or anything. 

2395
02:01:36,480 --> 02:01:38,520
They're not talking to it. 
It's not, it's not, it's not 

2396
02:01:38,520 --> 02:01:40,480
tooled up. 
It's just used as a it's a 

2397
02:01:40,480 --> 02:01:42,840
pretty, pretty expensive fucking
omnibus. 

2398
02:01:42,960 --> 02:01:46,080
They're always using it to fly 
really fucking low. 

2399
02:01:46,600 --> 02:01:52,120
Yeah, Are they? 
Yeah, I was under the impression

2400
02:01:52,120 --> 02:01:55,840
that they were trying to give 
you the feel that they are 

2401
02:01:55,840 --> 02:02:00,600
actually trying to operate. 
Low Mexican radar. 

2402
02:02:01,080 --> 02:02:02,600
I don't think it's in Mexico 
though. 

2403
02:02:02,600 --> 02:02:05,200
I think it's only on the border.
I think it's how they get to the

2404
02:02:05,200 --> 02:02:07,320
border, isn't it? 
I mean, maybe they don't get 

2405
02:02:07,320 --> 02:02:11,200
picked up by Mexican read or 
anywhere like just just because 

2406
02:02:11,200 --> 02:02:14,760
we don't know how much, we don't
know how much kind of hand and 

2407
02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:18,920
glove work in the US really has 
with the Mexicans at this point,

2408
02:02:18,920 --> 02:02:20,600
right? 
I mean, there's obviously some 

2409
02:02:20,600 --> 02:02:24,920
degree on like a kind of federal
level, there's no real work 

2410
02:02:24,960 --> 02:02:27,040
together on the state level 
based in the fact the Mexican 

2411
02:02:27,040 --> 02:02:28,320
state police are trying to kill 
them. 

2412
02:02:28,320 --> 02:02:34,120
But is there a point when the 
state level collaboration drops 

2413
02:02:34,120 --> 02:02:37,400
and maybe people in the air 
defence network don't fucking 

2414
02:02:37,400 --> 02:02:39,960
know that there's American 
Blackhawks flying dangerously 

2415
02:02:39,960 --> 02:02:42,840
close to the border, probably 
with the fucking beacons turned 

2416
02:02:42,840 --> 02:02:47,000
off and it's fucking real. 
The beacons are turned off on. 

2417
02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:50,800
That's a good one, man. 
I think, I think a bit of an 

2418
02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:54,160
overreach is that like the 
literally like using a fucking 

2419
02:02:54,160 --> 02:02:58,600
Predator drone, just a circle 
around that that one guy's house

2420
02:02:58,600 --> 02:03:02,400
in in the US waiting for him, 
waiting for the bull back to 

2421
02:03:02,400 --> 02:03:04,520
Mexico. 
It's like he's going to see it. 

2422
02:03:05,040 --> 02:03:07,520
He's going to see a drone served
in his fucking house. 

2423
02:03:07,520 --> 02:03:10,760
It's a lovely clear day, you 
know? 

2424
02:03:11,080 --> 02:03:14,160
And it's like, yeah, you don't 
need what's clearly a very 

2425
02:03:14,160 --> 02:03:17,280
fucking high altitude drone to 
get these shots. 

2426
02:03:17,920 --> 02:03:22,440
I mean quad copper technology 
wasn't what it is today, but you

2427
02:03:22,440 --> 02:03:25,920
could let Read just have someone
near his house with binoculars. 

2428
02:03:26,400 --> 02:03:29,520
Theme medical point We were 
watching last night that they 

2429
02:03:29,520 --> 02:03:32,400
make the assessment that he's 
heading straight back to Mexico 

2430
02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:34,360
like really quickly. 
They see him leave his house, 

2431
02:03:34,360 --> 02:03:37,720
get to his car and they're like 
he's going back to Mexico and 

2432
02:03:37,720 --> 02:03:39,640
it's like he couldn't go to the 
fucking corner shop. 

2433
02:03:39,640 --> 02:03:44,720
Like I think you've Easter 5 
should be. 

2434
02:03:44,720 --> 02:03:46,560
I think you've jumped to a 
conclusion there, guys. 

2435
02:03:46,760 --> 02:03:47,840
It's a really good point 
actually. 

2436
02:03:47,840 --> 02:03:50,680
It's like I love the idea that 
like he goes out to buy some 

2437
02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:52,400
tabs, but like they think he's 
going to Mexico. 

2438
02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:55,120
So they're like roll this whole 
operation and they stop looking 

2439
02:03:55,120 --> 02:03:57,440
at the predator drone feed. 
They're just like hand it back 

2440
02:03:57,440 --> 02:03:59,960
to what? 
Whatever, whatever, nerds flying

2441
02:03:59,960 --> 02:04:02,360
that out of whatever fucking 
shipment container somewhere and

2442
02:04:02,360 --> 02:04:04,120
then they all like brewing a New
Mexico ready. 

2443
02:04:04,120 --> 02:04:06,240
He's like goes back to his house
10 minutes in or the pack of 

2444
02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:08,680
cigarettes, like hey baby, got 
the tabs. 

2445
02:04:09,480 --> 02:04:12,800
And a sausage roll from Greg's. 
A sausage roll from Greg's. 

2446
02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:17,480
I love it. 
But is, is the, is the Predator 

2447
02:04:17,480 --> 02:04:21,000
drone really an overreach? 
I mean, you, you've, you've said

2448
02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:25,080
we didn't have quadcopter drones
everywhere 10 years ago. 

2449
02:04:25,480 --> 02:04:30,720
And like 2 years ago, three 
years ago we got drones being 

2450
02:04:30,720 --> 02:04:37,000
used in DC to survey protests. 
Yeah, I mean, if we'd seen maybe

2451
02:04:37,000 --> 02:04:41,000
Ice Cube, right click on the 
Predator, Jordan say Commandeer 

2452
02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:44,680
drone. 
And it's a passive over sell or 

2453
02:04:44,680 --> 02:04:47,760
if I scoop right clicks on his 
car and it comes up going to 

2454
02:04:47,760 --> 02:04:49,360
Mexico. 
Sure. 

2455
02:04:49,720 --> 02:04:53,440
You're just mad that your 
government issued laptop does 

2456
02:04:53,440 --> 02:04:55,760
not have that right click 
option. 

2457
02:04:56,320 --> 02:04:58,240
Maybe mine does. 
Oh, that sounds. 

2458
02:04:58,240 --> 02:05:00,800
Just basically the same thing. 
Would you like to hear what 

2459
02:05:00,800 --> 02:05:04,280
viewers of Sakari You have to 
say on the website letterbox.com

2460
02:05:04,480 --> 02:05:06,120
for Notes from the Peter 
Gallery? 

2461
02:05:07,560 --> 02:05:10,280
All right, we're going to start 
with the half star reviews. 

2462
02:05:10,280 --> 02:05:13,360
Someone opinions nothing, 
literally nothing. 

2463
02:05:13,440 --> 02:05:15,320
Someone else adds. 
Nothing ever happens. 

2464
02:05:15,320 --> 02:05:18,360
And whenever something finally 
does happens, I hate it. 

2465
02:05:18,400 --> 02:05:22,640
Whenever I Google Sicario this 
movie stupid ass comes up 

2466
02:05:22,640 --> 02:05:25,920
boring, says Someone 
fundamentally charm this film 

2467
02:05:25,920 --> 02:05:29,400
that'll end up inspiring men to 
be into the things that fails to

2468
02:05:29,400 --> 02:05:32,800
criticise. 
I agree. 

2469
02:05:33,840 --> 02:05:37,320
That is a thought I've had 
thinking about one of the 

2470
02:05:37,320 --> 02:05:44,440
questions we've discussed 
regarding other films, which is 

2471
02:05:44,480 --> 02:05:48,080
how would this film be received 
in the wardroom? 

2472
02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:52,080
I think people would get the 
wrong end of the stick from it, 

2473
02:05:52,600 --> 02:05:54,400
yeah. 
Three stars. 

2474
02:05:54,520 --> 02:05:57,320
Had to watch it for class 
instead of Napoleon Dynamite. 

2475
02:05:57,320 --> 02:05:59,400
Hashtag boring. 
Two stars. 

2476
02:05:59,440 --> 02:06:04,920
Evil Dennis Villeneuve 2 stars. 
Wasted two hours of my life. 4 

2477
02:06:04,920 --> 02:06:07,320
1/2 stars. 
Imagine this movie but Benicio 

2478
02:06:07,320 --> 02:06:09,160
does the voice from usual 
suspects. 

2479
02:06:09,160 --> 02:06:14,320
So incredible. 
Someone just gives a 4 1/2 star 

2480
02:06:14,320 --> 02:06:17,560
of you and goes yes, I forgot 
about the bit where Benicio Del 

2481
02:06:17,560 --> 02:06:20,040
Toro gives John Bernthal 
extremely violent. 

2482
02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:22,320
Oh this is you Mike, this is 
you. 

2483
02:06:23,200 --> 02:06:26,040
If you want to feel like out of 
breath the whole time through, 

2484
02:06:26,040 --> 02:06:29,000
watch this Station. 
Marks is truly a great tension 

2485
02:06:29,000 --> 02:06:30,840
piece. 
Like I said, absolute cinema. 

2486
02:06:31,080 --> 02:06:34,040
Wish Johnny Boy was in more 
scenes other than getting wet 

2487
02:06:34,040 --> 02:06:36,760
willied. 
I'm glad. 

2488
02:06:36,760 --> 02:06:38,400
I'm glad people are noticing the
work, really. 

2489
02:06:38,520 --> 02:06:41,560
Taylor Sheridan, if you see 
this, please write something for

2490
02:06:41,560 --> 02:06:43,720
Emily Blunt and let me play her 
daughter. 

2491
02:06:43,800 --> 02:06:47,600
Someone just says holy moly for 
half stars and then the big hit 

2492
02:06:47,600 --> 02:06:50,080
and five star ones. 
I still need to watch the second

2493
02:06:50,080 --> 02:06:52,680
film, but I just know it won't 
come close to this masterpiece. 

2494
02:06:52,680 --> 02:06:55,760
You're probably right there. 
Patrick Bloom, from what I've 

2495
02:06:55,760 --> 02:07:01,360
heard doing this movie rips. 
Dude, I want a cigarette so bad.

2496
02:07:01,360 --> 02:07:07,160
Emily Blunt as the audience 
surrogate bug and absolutely 

2497
02:07:07,160 --> 02:07:08,960
amazing. 
Everyone shut the fuck up, but 

2498
02:07:08,960 --> 02:07:11,440
he showed Del Toro was being 
cool as fuck right now. 

2499
02:07:11,920 --> 02:07:15,240
Four stars, perfect review, 0 
notes. 

2500
02:07:15,320 --> 02:07:17,320
We're close to the end of the 
episode now with you guys. 

2501
02:07:18,360 --> 02:07:20,880
I think there's really one thing
left to do. 

2502
02:07:21,120 --> 02:07:25,800
Check. 
Is this film pro or anti the 

2503
02:07:25,800 --> 02:07:29,200
Central Intelligence Agency? 
Incredibly, anti. 

2504
02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:32,920
Incredibly. 
This film is, I think, yeah, I 

2505
02:07:32,920 --> 02:07:36,400
don't think this franchises, 
this is really weird example, I 

2506
02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:39,240
think where I think I have to 
watch the second film properly 

2507
02:07:39,240 --> 02:07:41,520
to kind of get the whole thing. 
But I think, I think this film 

2508
02:07:42,120 --> 02:07:44,160
says, hey, this is fucked up and
bad. 

2509
02:07:44,600 --> 02:07:47,000
And I think the second film's 
going to go actually, this is 

2510
02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:50,800
really cool. 
Yeah, like it's going to go from

2511
02:07:50,800 --> 02:07:53,400
fucked up and bad to jacked up 
and Rod, right? 

2512
02:07:53,920 --> 02:07:59,880
Yeah, yeah, yeah, big time. 
Yeah, but you know what, we've 

2513
02:07:59,880 --> 02:08:01,320
mentioned Call of Duty a few 
times. 

2514
02:08:01,320 --> 02:08:03,600
Just reminds us there is one 
question we need to ask about 

2515
02:08:03,600 --> 02:08:05,520
this film because we've gone 
over the fact, obviously you 

2516
02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:08,640
mentioned that it would be 
popular in the mess, but would 

2517
02:08:08,640 --> 02:08:10,720
go down for maybe the wrong 
reasons. 

2518
02:08:11,880 --> 02:08:15,040
Yeah. 
How does film fare as a video 

2519
02:08:15,040 --> 02:08:18,000
game and in hard mode? 
It can't be a first person 

2520
02:08:18,000 --> 02:08:21,040
shooter. 
OK, yeah, man. 

2521
02:08:21,360 --> 02:08:22,880
That's a hard mode question 
right there. 

2522
02:08:22,880 --> 02:08:24,840
It's easy to say Call of Duty 
with a Mexican film. 

2523
02:08:24,840 --> 02:08:28,800
I go, you know. 
Yeah, you, yeah, that's, that's 

2524
02:08:28,800 --> 02:08:30,880
the easy 1, isn't it? 
You are playing a like a 

2525
02:08:30,880 --> 02:08:34,960
tactical squad shooter and you 
are like one of the guys and you

2526
02:08:34,960 --> 02:08:37,800
have the MVGS and you're going 
for the tunnels and that's all 

2527
02:08:37,800 --> 02:08:41,840
really cool. 
Yeah, I think I think the next 

2528
02:08:41,840 --> 02:08:44,440
best thing, wow. 
It's probably if you stick with 

2529
02:08:44,440 --> 02:08:54,560
Kate as your protag, I think. 
I think it's a retro style or 

2530
02:08:54,560 --> 02:08:56,480
art point and click adventure 
game. 

2531
02:08:57,480 --> 02:08:58,840
Police quest or something like 
that. 

2532
02:08:59,360 --> 02:09:03,280
So yeah, you, I mean, obviously 
she's just been swept at by 

2533
02:09:03,280 --> 02:09:06,440
events, but she needs to try and
figure out what's going on, I 

2534
02:09:06,440 --> 02:09:08,320
guess. 
Yeah, but you're, but you're in 

2535
02:09:08,320 --> 02:09:12,920
a bit of a weird rock and a hard
place where the actual story is 

2536
02:09:13,440 --> 02:09:16,560
like, what's what's the crack of
the task force you've been 

2537
02:09:16,560 --> 02:09:17,480
assigned to? 
More. 

2538
02:09:17,480 --> 02:09:19,040
More than What's the crack of 
the cartel? 

2539
02:09:19,840 --> 02:09:21,560
Yeah, that's actually cool. 
I like that. 

2540
02:09:21,720 --> 02:09:24,440
I think, I think what it does do
is it allows you to have a story

2541
02:09:24,440 --> 02:09:27,800
about the task force that gives 
short shift to the cartel 

2542
02:09:27,800 --> 02:09:32,360
because the cartels the focus 
because you do as much it that 

2543
02:09:32,360 --> 02:09:37,480
means that the the the the 
border crossing gunfight is like

2544
02:09:37,480 --> 02:09:41,080
a cutscene. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess that 

2545
02:09:41,080 --> 02:09:42,760
would be it. 
I don't know how you would do 

2546
02:09:42,800 --> 02:09:44,880
it. 
I think you would be Kate, and I

2547
02:09:44,880 --> 02:09:48,200
think it would just be, yeah, 
Point, click, talk to everybody.

2548
02:09:48,760 --> 02:09:50,800
Smoke some tabs. 
Smoke some. 

2549
02:09:51,080 --> 02:09:53,160
Tabs. 
Yeah, have sex with a Punisher. 

2550
02:09:53,720 --> 02:09:56,400
Convince people to talk to you. 
Yeah, you do all that and then 

2551
02:09:56,400 --> 02:09:58,080
yeah. 
And it would be like pretty much

2552
02:09:58,080 --> 02:10:00,520
on rails like like all because 
arts and vegetables games kind 

2553
02:10:00,520 --> 02:10:01,600
of were. 
It's fucking cool. 

2554
02:10:02,680 --> 02:10:04,160
Like the Westwood Blade Runner 
game? 

2555
02:10:05,040 --> 02:10:06,760
Yeah. 
I'd be good as shit. 

2556
02:10:06,760 --> 02:10:08,840
I'd be good out man. 
Have you got an idea for a video

2557
02:10:08,840 --> 02:10:11,920
game? 
I think first of all, I would 

2558
02:10:11,920 --> 02:10:14,760
have come with Kate as well as 
your playbook character. 

2559
02:10:15,400 --> 02:10:19,280
Cool, I can see the the 
pixelated thing working. 

2560
02:10:22,440 --> 02:10:26,360
I think I would put more of a 
focus on, let's dramatically 

2561
02:10:26,360 --> 02:10:28,760
call it, keeping her alive. 
Yeah. 

2562
02:10:29,800 --> 02:10:34,120
You could lean into the into the
whole having a having a health 

2563
02:10:34,120 --> 02:10:37,320
bar thing because she's get 
she's likely to get in that 

2564
02:10:37,320 --> 02:10:38,920
situation. 
You're likely to have like 

2565
02:10:39,840 --> 02:10:43,320
exhaustion, anxiety problems and
all sort of things and you could

2566
02:10:43,320 --> 02:10:47,160
just play with with first person
effects on that a lot. 

2567
02:10:47,160 --> 02:10:48,400
Fuck, I want to change my 
answer. 

2568
02:10:49,000 --> 02:10:51,480
Yeah, this is This is a survival
horror game. 

2569
02:10:51,680 --> 02:10:55,760
Yeah, Yeah. 
I would still put it in the 

2570
02:10:56,160 --> 02:10:59,840
basically perspective wise, 
gameplay wise, I would put it in

2571
02:10:59,840 --> 02:11:05,720
the first person shooter 
perspective from the gameplay. 

2572
02:11:06,000 --> 02:11:08,880
But you don't to get and you 
don't get to do the shooting 

2573
02:11:08,880 --> 02:11:11,240
part. 
It's just all the keeping Kate 

2574
02:11:11,240 --> 02:11:14,680
alive and not. 
And you could put in a dozen 

2575
02:11:14,680 --> 02:11:17,840
dead ends for her that lead to 
her being shot by the squad 

2576
02:11:17,840 --> 02:11:19,160
she's been assigned to us. 
Me. 

2577
02:11:20,040 --> 02:11:23,400
That's really cool. 
Yeah, Jesus. 

2578
02:11:23,880 --> 02:11:26,040
It's really insightful. 
Holy shit, that's fucking 

2579
02:11:26,040 --> 02:11:28,240
amazing, man. 
You see, I think we're wasted on

2580
02:11:28,240 --> 02:11:29,800
podcasts. 
I think we should just start 

2581
02:11:29,800 --> 02:11:32,640
like pitch and write the answer 
the video game industry because 

2582
02:11:32,640 --> 02:11:35,800
because what we don't have is 
what don't have is what we don't

2583
02:11:35,800 --> 02:11:38,520
have any be added white dudes 
yet pitching ideas the video 

2584
02:11:38,520 --> 02:11:42,040
game industry right. 
You know, yeah. 

2585
02:11:43,160 --> 02:11:45,720
Great, honest. 
Well, I think it's time to were 

2586
02:11:45,720 --> 02:11:50,680
call and nights tonight's 
assessment of the 2015 mega 

2587
02:11:50,680 --> 02:11:53,720
blockbuster Sicario. 
So the last thing for us to say 

2588
02:11:53,720 --> 02:11:56,800
is actually for assault. 
What's our next episode, Mike? 

2589
02:11:57,280 --> 02:11:58,040
It is. 
Season 2. 

2590
02:11:58,040 --> 02:12:02,160
Episode 5 is 1993's The Fugitive
starring Harrison Ford. 

2591
02:12:02,920 --> 02:12:05,640
Finally, we are popping our 
Harrison Ford cherry here on 

2592
02:12:05,640 --> 02:12:07,800
three present dudes after 
teasing it for so long. 

2593
02:12:08,040 --> 02:12:11,040
Going for one of the real brass 
rings that we've talked about 

2594
02:12:11,040 --> 02:12:13,200
previously, one of the films 
that we've felt we've had to 

2595
02:12:13,200 --> 02:12:16,840
spin ourselves up to the hit, 
one of the really, really hard 

2596
02:12:16,840 --> 02:12:19,160
targets. 
So we're hoping to see you for 

2597
02:12:19,160 --> 02:12:21,680
the next one or two weeks time 
then until then we've been. 

2598
02:12:22,600 --> 02:12:27,600
Clear. 
Yeah.

