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Hello all, this week we're going
to be discussing Evil Dead Burn.

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Is it Return of the Deadites or 
is it just pure shite? 

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Stick around to find out. 
Hello, welcome to middle age 

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Geeks. 
I am filled. 

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That is Daz. 
And this week, as I said, we're 

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discussing Evil Dead Burn, the 
latest offering in the in the 

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series. 
Before we go into specifics and 

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get Daz's initial reaction, I'm 
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little bit about the movie and 
production budget, all that kind

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of jazz, and then we'll get into
the man nitty gritty. 

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So yeah, after the loss of her 
husband, a woman seeks solace 

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with her in laws. 
After as one by one they 

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transform into deadites, she 
comes to discover that she took 

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in life, survive even in death. 
That's kind of a wank fucking 

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synopsis. 
Fuck you IMDb. 

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This one is directed by 
Sebastian Vanishek. 

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It's he also Co wrote the script
as well I believe with Laurent 

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Bernard, the cinematographer 
Philip Lozano and the main cast 

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and we have Shahila Yaku Bazalas
Hunter doing as Joseph Lucy and 

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Buchanan as Taya and Tandy right
as Susan and a few others. 

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Production budget 20 million and
so far in this opening weekend, 

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it's made back 41 already. 
So it's too bad. 

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Safe. 
Yeah. 

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I mean, it's it's it's hard. 
It's it's it's it's going to do 

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well. 
So does Yeah. 

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Look what? 
Before I start getting at the 

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specifics around camera work and
performances and all that 

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malarkey, what were your 
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I was quite disappointed I think
watching this. 

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I thought it was very stylish 
and gory piece of nonsense and 

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like there is great gourd. 
It's vicious and it's unnerving 

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and unpleasant and ticks all 
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If that's what you're kind of in
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Some excellent camera work and 
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And I guess it's relentless as 
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It's another positive. 
It doesn't let up. 

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It just takes off and keeps 
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Umm, I think it's just too long.
It's a script was fucking shite.

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Like I know you're not expecting
an Oscar worthy stuff in a movie

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like this, but there's just no 
connection to the characters at 

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all. 
I just couldn't give a shit 

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about any of them. 
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gore for gore's sake. 
And I got kind of bored towards 

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the end, like, and I haven't 
seen the previous the rebooted 

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Evil Dead movies, you know, if 
they've moved away from the 

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first trilogy and stuff like 
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But there was none of that kind 
of balance of that being really 

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scary and really funny and that 
perfect tone and the perfect 

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sporting mix of that. 
This was just another subpar 

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horror film for me. 
That's just especially recently 

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with some really great horrors, 
like a new into my new found 

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love for horrors go so far as 
like really good horrors. 

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You can. 
You can have a decent script and

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a really good horror film with 
gore and all that. 

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We've seen loads of them and 
this I thought was just script 

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just really, really was shot and
let it down completely for me. 

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How about you? 
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would have been the one who was.
Absolutely loving this one. 

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But yeah, it's a lot of the same
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Like I thought that it was shot 
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I have thought really like 
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amazing. 
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work as you mentioned is is 
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I love that kind of the one from
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like that's almost like a it's 
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I wish they hadn't they had have
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shot, you know, right the way 
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But before we're getting into 
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it is, it would have been great 
if they kept that as a one shot 

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because it's such a cool it's 
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And yeah, there's some really 
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and I love that. 
But this this for me just didn't

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feel like an evil dead movie. 
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like it's traded in that kind of
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chaotic or or to corporate 
Campbell groovy kind of Laura 

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for this like really grim, ultra
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that you there's always 
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move you around grief or a loss 
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That's, you know, that's just 
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But here that's kind of just the
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But here they make it the main, 
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person's, you know, abusive 
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person who's suffered for 
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And they kind of that's that's 
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like, well, then make that make 
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You know, you don't that's 
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This person dealing with their 
the loss of their husband and a 

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toxic in laws and all this kind 
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And it doesn't attack. 
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from from evil dead rise. 
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but you don't like, you don't 
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kind of to see this one. 
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didn't have that signal mature 
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you're watching an Evil Dead 
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And I like I rewatched Evil Dead
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were doing this and it's so much
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And I have, I have a lot of 
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still think it's just it has a 
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of moments, just some great 
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in it. 
Whereas this we've got the Comic

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Relief comes from that granny 
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And it's the same fucking joke 
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Again, just like 4 times. 
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in the wasn't funny in the first
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Yeah. 
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it was, it was a bummer like for
a move as you mentioned as in 

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your end for entry, the the the 
really practical and messy wet 

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kind of special effects were 
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They're great. 
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commits to that. 
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focuses on it. 
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discussing yesterday how it 
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2000s French movies like, you 
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Gasper know and stuff. 
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that just don't look away though
you don't get to look away and 

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that that's great. 
The problem is, and we'll get 

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into more in spoilers, but one 
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culmination of the movie, it's 
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so and it just doesn't fit in 
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It messes with some of the lore 
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It starts adding into rules as 
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stuff. 
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because then you know that the 
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they going to go on a wreck on 
just forget all this extra shit.

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Yeah, that's that's what I want 
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You look at like in terms of the
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fucking all over the place. 
They can float, they can boil 

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water, they're telekinetic, they
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it's fucking spider man. 
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in the in the recent trilogy? 
Like is, well, even the rise 

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have that. 
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original ones, like they could 
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could levitate and but I have to
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another through some sort of 
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Even in the last one there was 
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kind of just throw that out the 
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passed and it's. 
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I'm not sure if you hung around 
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SO. 
The so the granny one, which 

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kind of made no sense anyway. 
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and and how that even opens it 
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but like we've kind of what we 
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that, that side of it, the the 
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I don't feel we have characters 
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carry a serious story that 
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And they do make that really the
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It's yes, there's the fucking 
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we all, you know, have come to 
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seat to the story. 
It's it's a bizarre choice for 

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me. 
If you're trying to make it like

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a character driven, character 
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make that movie. 
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the horror elements. 
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And you need to have better 
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And, and the lead in, I mean, 
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they like that Wayne or kind of 
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up when, when you get there, 
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credit kind of sequence. 
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main characters being introduced
and it's in this nightclub scene

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and it's done so shoddily that 
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was watching, I thought that 
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they were the supporting 
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22nd set up for their 
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Oh, they're bickering and you 
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they're annoyed at each other 
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And I thought the way it's shot 
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other couple that it's going to 
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no, that that was the whole 
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And we're supposed to believe 
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thing because they had one, uh, 
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lean into their relationship and
the serious, no, the serious 

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relationship drama of it. 
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problems. 
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but it's a horror, it's an Evil 
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But it's the fact that they do 
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you flashbacks of their 
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try and tug in the heartstrings 
later on and you know, towards 

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the end of the movie as well. 
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there's a 22nd set up for this. 
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relationship and the grief. 
And it's touching on, as you 

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were saying, domestic abuse and 
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And it's just, it's like a 
fucking flicker, like, oh, Baba 

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and then, oh, now he's dead and 
you're supposed to believe all 

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this stuff. 
And it's like you just, you 

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didn't give us anything. 
There's nothing. 

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There's not enough to invest in 
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And you couldn't, could not give
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They're not characters. 
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deadites, which, you know, fair 
play, you know, they did that 

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well, but there's there's 
nothing else and they're asking 

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you to invest in it and you 
can't. 

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And and again, like you said, I 
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And there's not enough if you're
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something so serious as that. 
We don't really get to find how 

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much of a Dick that the husband 
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movie. 
So at this eager I'm I'm asking 

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myself the question while I'm 
watching it, but why are the 

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family so hostile to this girl? 
Like if she's this, it seems to 

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be this loving, gorgeous French 
wife that has who, but they 

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hate, you know who who support 
and all that and she's and they 

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hate her despite the fact that 
it's it's their son. 

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That's, you know, violent words.
It just does. 

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It's weird. 
It doesn't make any sense. 

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And then they tried they, 
they're doing the movie makers 

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do our best to make her look 
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say, the way she dresses, going 
to the wake or stuff like that, 

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just to just. 
Never. 

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She's never wedding. 
She's never wedding. 

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Yeah, just. 
Explain anything behind it? 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, it just, yeah. 

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It was just, I don't know. 
It just wasn't for me. 

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The story just really, really 
let this down. 

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The script is is such a letter 
on multiple fronts, but there's 

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like, it's a perfect example of 
a movie where like scenes just 

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happen and there's there's 
nothing connecting the scenes. 

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There seems like there's nothing
after a scene or before a scene 

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scene in a crematorium and 
there's a killer, a death scene 

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or something like that. 
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just, oh, we're back in the 
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It's just like, but what 
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People not realized that like, 
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that crematorium and and it's 
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There's no repercussions to 
fucking anything. 

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It's like there's a scene where,
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father like in a Bush, burst 
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just there trying to slice his 
rest or cut. 

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away and it's just dramatic 

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scene, but then there's nothing 
after it. 

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Then there's cut to other other 
dinner table just like what what

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what happened? 
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doing? 
What's wrong with you? 

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There's no interaction. 
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See you for dinner and just 
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See if dinner I'm off to get. 
Changed all the interesting 

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parts are just the bits between 
the scenes that we don't fucking

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see, that's all. 
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development, what happened, or 
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would actually just have a 
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playing these kind of horror 
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Yeah, fucking kind of nonsense. 
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times when we watch these horror
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if we're shitting on them, we're
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cast member. 
Like no matter what it is, it's 

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a great movie or a bad movie, 
but someone that stands out one 

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what's it called? 
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competent enough. 
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best, but no one else in it was 
not only that cannot eat great 

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performances. 
And I'm sure maybe they are fine

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actors. 
I don't really know them, but 

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none of them came into form to 
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They all they were all all 
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down to the ones that were 
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Pretty much all of them were 
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I just, yeah, I don't like there
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really rooting for anyone. 
And yeah, it's, it's, it's like,

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like I said, there is stuff I do
like that that what you call it 

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the the French extremity or 
whatever they were called that 

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vibe that we had from the likes 
of of Irreversible and stuff 

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like that. 
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went heavy on the violence. 
Don't look away from it. 

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That's that was great. 
And some of it was excellent, 

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but he can't just get away with 
having a really, really slick 

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look. 
A movie if if if you if you're 

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missing the heart and the story 
and the characters of what is 

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supposed to be Evil dead, which 
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in into it and interesting, 
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there are in the last movie. 
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is 1. 
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and good actors as well, like 
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Alvarez as one and she's 
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I don't know. 
I think I think like great 

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having the visuals and all the 
rest of it fantastic. 

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But there is. 
There's just no fun to this one 

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at all. 
It just struck me as just one of

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those movies that kind of comes 
across as like, and this happens

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and here's another scene that 
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Oh, here's a fight in a car. 
There's a cool sequence and then

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you move on to the next one. 
And just like here, oh, here's 

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another scene where there's 
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eardrum. 
There's so many moments that are

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like, that's a really that is 
this is really cool. 

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This is really cool. 
But there's there's nothing 

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connecting it and that's not 
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Especially when it gets like 
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this probably get to it is just 
it's so shit. 

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It's just like, oh, no, yeah. 
And I think. 

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Yeah, and that's where it steers
away really from those movies, 

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as I said, like you know, you're
martyrs or inside, you see 

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inside. 
No, no, great movie, but better 

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woman fucking who? 
Like she she's a pregnant woman 

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trapped in her home and like 
this woman's coming to cut a 

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baby over and shit. 
It's nuts. 

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But the but there's there's the 
IT those movies going to stay 

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true to themselves the whole way
through. 

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Where is this as it gets towards
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and so not even like not even on
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it's just the convenience of it 
that they end up where she ends 

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up. 
And so, and where has he been, 

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you know, that character for the
from, from what happens at the 

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start, you know, and the 
geography as well of when, when 

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at this, as you mentioned, is 
the kind of the bust up at the 

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nightclub is where we actually 
meet them, the main characters. 

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He leaves there in a fuss, you 
know, in a tiff and he drives 

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off. 
Now we see the inside of this 

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club, but this is like a banging
club. 

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It's not like a hillbilly bar or
anything. 

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Like with real fancy. 
Yeah, real fancy looking club 

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when in 2 minutes he's driving 
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forest because he's right where 
by where the lake that we see at

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the start, which is also in Evil
Dead Rise, where he probably 

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like that lake and he's like 
hell forever. 

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He hit from the light bulb to 
the woods and the lake just just

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there like America is famously 
massive like there's there's no 

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no way so that the city is that 
close to the fucking the middle 

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of woods in the middle of 
nowhere. 

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It was just yeah. 
Wild, yeah. 

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But I but I also just I just 
didn't understand when this kind

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of the rules of what they can do
and all that, but how how they 

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die, you know, like there's 
there's a moment isn't it's 

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actually kind of cool scene with
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And I don't know why he just 
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really long periods of the 
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of he's looking at the window 
and he kind of shoots himself in

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the head and doesn't kill him. 
And it's kind of a very eerie 

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sequins and shoots himself in 
the mouth. 

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And so if you're going Jesus 
Christ, like he's kind of just 

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showcasing like he's a how 
fucking mad he is and, and how 

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he can't die. 
But then later on, he dies by a 

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different, something different 
happens to his head and just 

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like, Oh yeah, so now you're 
dead. 

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Doesn't make sense. 
I just, I just hate when you 

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don't know what the fucking 
rules are. 

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Just keep it fucking simple. 
Someone says yeah, you got to 

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chop their head off or whatever.
Yeah, well, I mean some of that 

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again. 
Again, some of that stuff is in 

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the other epithet movies. 
I mean, you remember, is it the 

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second one where he has the the 
girlfriends decapitated head and

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a voice while she's talking to 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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Like, so like there's, I mean, 
there is, there is stuff like 

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that. 
But yeah, like the whole was 

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they have seemed to have the 
powers of being able to fucking 

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boil water and all this sort of 
man shit. 

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Like it just wasn't the little 
ones. 

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But I, I when we get to the 
spoilers, I'll talk about one of

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the ones that really just seems 
to open it up even more with 

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regards to the actual practical 
effects. 

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What did you think of those? 
Let's just forget the CGI stuff 

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there. 
What did you think the actual 

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practical effects? 
I thought was fantastic. 

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Yeah. 
It was like it was just 

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squirming in your chair. 
And there's there's there's a 

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lot of variety to it. 
Like there's a bit with it. 

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Just a wine opener involving a 
neck that's just like, Jesus 

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Christ, just you. 
You really feel as you said that

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perfectly. 
The kind of wetness. 

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There's just so much blood. 
It's tangible when you're 

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looking at screens. 
It's quite unnerving. 

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It's like there's also just 
moments involving a dishwasher 

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that makes me never want to 
leave my dishwasher open every 

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again. 
Pretty again. 

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Incredible. 
That's one of the cooler parts, 

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and it's in the frame as well. 
The fight in the car I thought 

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was excellently staged, Like 
really, really good. 

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Obviously they're like the the 
one shot in the house will steal

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the spotlight, but the the car 
sequence is great and just 

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separate fingers and just that 
never gets old. 

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But I thought that was really, 
really, umm, inventive. 

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Like it ticked all the boxes in 
that way. 

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I think some people I can 
understand would be a little bit

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turned off at the fact that it's
really does it up to 11 and it 

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really goes kind of it's kind of
torture porn. 

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I think that this for me differs
a lot from torture porn stuff, 

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you know, like your Eli Roth 
kind of stuff would have, 

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because his is genuine. 
It's person on person. 

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It's something to do with 
attacking creatures, you know, 

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and which is what these things 
are. 

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This isn't two people fighting 
it out. 

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This is one person fighting 
against the dead ice, which is 

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disast demon or demonic spirit 
or whatever the hell you want to

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call it. 
It's kind of the most I think 

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like the characters are the most
kind of mean spirited and 

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unlikable characters that we've 
had in one of these movies. 

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That it really that's what kind 
of take took the fun out of it 

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for me. 
There was no one to root for. 

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There was no one I really hope 
survived and I was like, give a 

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shit. 
Everyone of you get killed. 

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And so yeah, I don't know. 
It's it's it's operates more for

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me, unlike a, you know, a human 
hate misery, kind of domestic 

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violence, that kind of stuff on 
that level rather than being the

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fun horror that we would expect 
from this series. 

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And I'm not saying they owe us 
that, but it's just what you or 

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I would expect going into an 
Evil dead movie. 

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And this kind of felt like the 
kind of it came with, I don't 

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know, just it just, and it 
didn't have that narrative spark

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that it was trying to tell. 
And and you're like you said, 

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it's jumping from here's this 
scene and then straight into 

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something else. 
And you know, it's, if you're 

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trying to tell something about 
domestic violence, just make 

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that movie. 
And, you know, don't make an 

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Evil Dead movie out of it. 
Absolutely, because it's going, 

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it does have a lot of. 
Similarities to Evil Dead kind 

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of franchises, especially, 
especially through the camera 

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work. 
And like camera work is is 

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fantastic. 
And just lots of gravity defying

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spinning, like this bathroom 
shot where the camera is just 

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rotating around with the 
characters and the ceiling, the 

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wall. 
Yeah, a lot of just upside down 

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shots that didn't rotate around 
to level things out. 

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It's just some of that stuff was
just like, this is fucking 

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great. 
And lots of like the camera just

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rushing through the forest and 
stuff like that, like the old 

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school Raimi stuff in the 80s 
and oh, that was ticking all the

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boxes. 
But it's just, yeah, Script 

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wise, it's just very strange to 
pick something so, so serious 

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for this kind of movie. 
I think that really missed a 

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trick there. 
I think, yeah, I don't think I 

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really have anything more on 
this one as I think that this is

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a movie that's, you know, 
spectacular camera work, really 

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great shots, very inventive 
shots. 

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But when it comes down to our 
story, complete wank. 

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And then when it comes down to 
our performances, just just mid,

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just no one, no one likeable, no
one ran them up. 

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Maybe not blaming the actors as 
much as just the characters, 

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which is shit as well. 
So it's yeah, it was it's it's a

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let down for me. 
I think this is easily out of 

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the five movies we have so far, 
this is definitely the weakest 

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one for me. 
Let's take a star rating on it 

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then, before we have a couple of
minutes of spoilers. 

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To two, and I'd say 2 1/2 
because there's there's enough 

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in there visually to kind of 
keep your interests and it's 

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quite gory and inventive. 
And there are moments when you 

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singular moments where you are 
sitting there going to that's 

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either really visually pleasing 
or absolutely visually 

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disgusting in equal measure. 
But it's just, yeah, it's 

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everything in between the scenes
and everything just seems so 

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disconnected and the characters 
are just wank. 

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Like, it's a shame because they 
just don't have enough to work 

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with. 
Yeah, threadbare story, which is

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so strange for a movie like 
this, that they're going for 

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something so serious and they're
just, there's not enough in the 

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script to back it up. 
So yeah, 2 1/2. 

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I think that's why we won the 
few horror ones where I'm gone 

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exactly the exactly the same as 
you that you said come in a 

445
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,880
little bit higher. 
And but now I think 2 1/2 as 

446
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,240
well is not enough like that. 
There's not enough in the as I 

447
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,800
said, in the really great 
visuals and camera work and all 

448
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,120
the rest of it and production 
design and effects. 

449
00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:20,120
There's not enough there to save
it from the others humane parts,

450
00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:24,280
which is our story and our 
characters. 

451
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,640
And it's just it's yeah, it's 
it's it's a let down. 

452
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,000
This is an average an average 
movie, which is which is such a 

453
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,040
shame. 
I really hope that the next one 

454
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,640
Evil dead Wrath and kicks it up 
and after gets us back on track.

455
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,640
Yeah, so look, if you're leaving
us there, thank you very much 

456
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,800
for sticking around. 
Keep on liking subscribing and 

457
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,800
all that good stuff. 
And if you want to hang on with 

458
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,880
us, we're just going to have a 
chat about some spoilers, which 

459
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,560
of course will be mostly the 
gross stuff and the after 

460
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,280
credits scene. 
And so, yeah, that's when I 

461
00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,040
mentioned about the lore, OK. 
And it at the very end of this 

462
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,240
movie that there's a there's a 
post credits scene and we are in

463
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,480
back in the Funeral Home and the
old woman looks after funeral 

464
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,720
has like her whatever her grand 
niece or whatever, whoever the 

465
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,080
hell is is there with her. 
And she's like, well, what's 

466
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,440
this for? 
And why do we have all these 

467
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,000
urns here? 
And she's explaining to her, 

468
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,840
well, it's kind of sad. 
Sometimes some families don't 

469
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,920
come to collect their ashes. 
And she's looking at the names 

470
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,080
on them. 
And then she sees the name and 

471
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,280
it's the name Ellie from Ellie. 
I think it is from evil dead 

472
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,800
rise. 
And you're like, oh shit, So 

473
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,840
that's that's it. 
And then Ellie appears and she 

474
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,040
can see he's in the mirror and 
it's like mommy's back. 

475
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,600
So I think that they're making 
that character come back, you 

476
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,280
know, I mean, so if if they're 
only ever like normally truly 

477
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,640
dead if the heads explode or 
they get completely shredded. 

478
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,200
But now we're saying that they 
can be burned to ash. 

479
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,320
What happened to her? 
And she was like. 

480
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,800
She gets put through right. 
This is what happens at the end 

481
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:01,120
of the Evil Dead Rise her and 
her kids and so become 

482
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,720
essentially that big racking 
monster that you fight in the 

483
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,920
basement of Lost over Last of Us
Part 2. 

484
00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:11,800
You know the bulk chairs. 
Yeah, yeah, it's like a multi 

485
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,120
arm multi headed creature. 
It be just. 

486
00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:17,320
But it morphs into one anyway. 
It gets put through a wood chip 

487
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:18,920
right. 
So oh wow. 

488
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,560
It's just so it's a mixture of 
all all of them splattered all 

489
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,280
over the place and somehow 
they've managed to put find out 

490
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,040
which bits of this splatter 
belong to the mother cremated, 

491
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,080
put it in a jar and that it's 
spirit is come back to life. 

492
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:37,200
So that's and ask of then how 
what are the rules around when 

493
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,600
these deadlights can come back 
and can't? 

494
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,320
But yeah, so I'm not entirely 
sure what the crack is or what 

495
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,440
they're planning on doing with 
bringing that character back. 

496
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,720
But yeah, it's weird. 
It really just opens it up to OK

497
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,440
now I have no idea what your 
plan. 

498
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,520
Yeah, that's that's always just 
the most annoying thing because 

499
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:59,440
like the best death and this is 
when he fucking mashes one's 

500
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,640
fucking head with a folded up 
chair. 

501
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,920
And that's just, that's the 
reason you come here. 

502
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,640
It's so over the top. 
It's actually the lid off the 

503
00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:09,600
the dishwasher or something 
isn't it? 

504
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,880
Front top, it's something that 
when he's just like, better, 

505
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,520
yeah. 
That is fantastic and that you 

506
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,440
could have built so much around 
that being him just being so 

507
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,440
fucking crazy like that. 
If that he saw her walk into the

508
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,960
fucking or like he saw her got 
stabbed with the with the 

509
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,640
headrest from the car and then 
she came back into the fucking 

510
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,960
house and it's just like, you 
know, a line or two or just how 

511
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,160
the fuck do you kill these 
people? 

512
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,720
And then he does that and that's
her fucking dad. 

513
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,200
He's just like now, is she 
fucking dead? 

514
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,240
If he said something like that 
would have been like that 

515
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,640
fucking evil dead. 
There we fucking go, because 

516
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,240
that's fantastic. 
It grows out, but then that just

517
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,720
didn't work. 
Then what you when I was saying 

518
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,320
about the the father outside and
shooting himself just like 

519
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,120
what's the fucking point? 
He just blew his fucking blew 

520
00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:54,480
his brains out and then. 
Yeah, that's, that's a lot of 

521
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,160
times weird yet like that they 
get shot and, you know, they 

522
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,640
might get shot in the head, 
whatever else. 

523
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,440
And what it does is it just 
slows them down for a little 

524
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,760
while and they're back up again.
Like playing a Resident Evil 

525
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,680
game, you know, when you've got 
those STALKER enemies, you can 

526
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,400
knock them down, but eventually 
they're going to get back up. 

527
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,000
And that's kind of the way it 
has been in previous movies. 

528
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,040
But in this he, like you said, 
he shoots himself three times in

529
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,560
the head while standing there. 
But then it doesn't, he doesn't 

530
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,160
fall over. 
And he's just like, yeah, all 

531
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,320
right. 
Yeah, it's just. 

532
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,040
If you can break into the house,
I'm sorry. 

533
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,040
Yeah. 
What is he standing out there in

534
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,560
the 1st place? 
But that's one of those things 

535
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,320
where you're kind of going. 
It's like somebody went. 

536
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,440
Wouldn't that be a cool scene? 
He's looking in and just like, 

537
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,400
it's really eerie that he's 
shooting himself in the head and

538
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,080
nothing's happened to him. 
But it's like, yeah, but it was 

539
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,480
no one in the writers room that 
kind of went, yeah, that's cool.

540
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,280
But what the fuck is the point 
to that? 

541
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,120
What? 
Like, does that mean anything? 

542
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:46,880
Is that it's you know, it's kind
of fucking bizarre because I 

543
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,560
would like one of my favorite 
parts is kind of a kind of 

544
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,640
disgusting, but it's also quite 
beautiful when he comes in the 

545
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,680
window and he kisses his wife, 
but his mouth is all fucking 

546
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,960
bloody and he's got hot like you
can see through his cheek that 

547
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,560
he blew off outside and it's 
just disgusting. 

548
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,080
And they have share a fucking 
lovely kiss and it's just like 

549
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,280
that's absolutely disgusting, 
but it's lovely and she's like, 

550
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,400
you know, she's starting to get 
turned or something. 

551
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,680
She says you haven't kissed me 
like that in years and you're 

552
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,760
kind of gone. 
That again, as a moment on its 

553
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,360
zone is like, that's a fucking 
cool, just with cool single 

554
00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:19,760
shot, fucking great. 
Yeah. 

555
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,480
But the thing, everything before
and after A, don't make any 

556
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,360
sense and B, it's just kind of 
just kind of shit, just 

557
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,640
frustrating, you know? 
Yeah, it's a let down. 

558
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,800
I think we finish it up there 
then does 2 1/2 from each of us.

559
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,720
If you as or anybody else hasn't
seen Evil Dead Rise, check it 

560
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:39,960
out. 
It's a lot more fun. 

561
00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:43,560
The debts and stuff for just as 
enjoyable. 

562
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,840
Maybe camera work isn't as good 
as what we see here, but 

563
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,840
definitely a more fun movie. 
And yeah. 

564
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,320
So look, thanks for sticking 
around. 

565
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,280
Keep on like and subscribing. 
We're flying along with 

566
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,160
followers as tells me, which is 
great. 

567
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,480
And thank you very much for 
following along that really we 

568
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,000
really appreciate that. 
And we will see you next week or

569
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,440
maybe even later on this week 
depending on if we can get 

570
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,720
recording in time. 
What? 

571
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,360
That should be Daz's movie of 
the year, obviously. 

572
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:12,800
So look, yeah, look, take it 
easy. 

573
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,560
Look after each other and we 
will see you all the next one. 

574
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:15,320
Bye. 
Bye. 

575
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:16,280
See you later.