1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,960 Hello, this week we're going to be discussing obsession. 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,680 Will it be a supernatural romantic comedy or will it be a 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:06,920 psychological Horror Story that will make you look at your 4 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,440 partner in a completely different way and question their 5 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,480 sanity? Hold on to your one wish 6 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,160 Willows. It's about to get weird. 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,080 Hello, welcome to middle-aged geeks. 8 00:00:18,080 --> 00:00:20,560 I'm Phil, that is Daz. And this week we're going to be 9 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,720 discussing Obsession, which is the, I suppose, full length 10 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,760 first full length movie by Curry Barker. 11 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,200 If we don't count is Sarah long YouTube movie that they made. 12 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,400 And as I'm just gonna do as usual, do a quick, you know, a 13 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,480 quick chat about the synopsis and all the rest of it. 14 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:39,920 And then I'll bring you in to get your your your initial 15 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,200 thoughts on this movie and see which see if you enjoyed it as 16 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,760 much as I did. So the synopsis of this one is, 17 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,040 after breaking the mysterious one wish Willow to win his 18 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,920 crush's heart, a hopeless romantic finds himself getting 19 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,560 exactly what he asked for, but soon discovers that some desires 20 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,360 come with a dark, sinister price. 21 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,480 So yeah, as I said, this one is written, directed and edited by 22 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,720 Curry Barger. It's starring Michael Johnston 23 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,560 as Bear or Baron, Indy Neveretti as Nikki Freeman, Cooper 24 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:14,200 Tomlinson as Ian, Megan Lawless as Sarah and then a small 25 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,320 appearance from Andy Richter as as Carter, which which was cool 26 00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:19,560 to see him in that little small role. 27 00:01:19,960 --> 00:01:23,520 And so yeah, just quick, just a couple of bits on the movie as 28 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,440 well. It was a pretty small budget 29 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,440 compared to what are some other horrors we do. 30 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,520 This was a record. It was somewhere around the 31 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,080 million £1,000,000 mark, I think. 32 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,800 And so far, yeah, I think so far, even the opening weekend, 33 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,560 it's made 7 million. So yeah, Blumhouse who made this 34 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,120 are laughing, which seems to be always seems to be the way with 35 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,400 them knocking it out of the park when it comes to making movies 36 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,560 for fuck all. And then making a fortune. 37 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,800 So that's, look, I'll be very interested to hear what you 38 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,080 thought about this one. Because again, once again, I 39 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,880 feel like we are turning into a horror podcast, which suits me 40 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,000 fine, obviously, but you are being drowned in this genre that 41 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,080 wouldn't have really been in your Top of the Pops. 42 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:05,920 But I'm interested to know what you thought about this one. 43 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,960 Yeah, no, I I would never have gone to see this if it wasn't 44 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,160 for the podcast, and I'm delighted that I did go and see 45 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,880 it. This is a brilliant movie. 46 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,800 I absolutely loved it again, like Holcomb, uh, a few weeks 47 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,320 ago. Umm, it's more once the movie is 48 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,920 finished, I walk out that I can really probably enjoy it because 49 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,560 sitting through it is yeah is pretty nerve wracking at the 50 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,960 best of times. But yeah, this, I love it. 51 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,680 This is like top tier, not even just top tier horror filmmaking, 52 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,560 just top tier filmmaking. Uh, Curry Barker is a genius. 53 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:40,560 I didn't know anything about him. 54 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,160 I didn't see his YouTube short movie. 55 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,600 Umm. It's a movie that it's kind of 56 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,360 like a psychological horror, but it's also a movie that touches 57 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,920 on relationship anxiety. But it's also a dark comedy at 58 00:02:50,920 --> 00:02:53,920 times and it's it's absolutely terrifying. 59 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,840 The performances are stellar, it looks fantastic, the score I 60 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,160 thought was great, and it's expertly written and directed. 61 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,800 It takes such a simple premise and just expands on it. 62 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:12,120 And the central performance from Indie as Nikki is absolutely 63 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,160 mind blowing. The sword, it's so layered and 64 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:19,320 that just gives this takes this movie and moves it into the 65 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,000 stratosphere for me in terms of horror and in terms of just a 66 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,200 kind of genre pick in general. Did you like it yourself? 67 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,400 Yeah, yeah, I absolutely loved it. 68 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,920 I thought it was fantastic. It's and even just if you want 69 00:03:32,920 --> 00:03:36,120 to start on performances before we get into writing, directing 70 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,720 the performance, I thought she was absolutely outstanding. 71 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,360 And a very interesting tidbit was that when Barker was doing 72 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,200 the screening, he noticed that there was absolutely no 73 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:52,440 chemistry between the two leads between Michael Johnson and and 74 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,800 he was like, this is fantastic because that's what they she's 75 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,080 friend zoned him, you know. And so, so I just thought that 76 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,480 was that was brilliant. And well, I thought, yeah, I 77 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,880 mean, they're don't get me wrong, I enjoyed everybody 78 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,480 else's performances, but she is incredible. 79 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,040 And I haven't seen some of their stuff. 80 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,960 She's in, I think she's in that Superman and Lois and a couple 81 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,640 of other things at that I haven't seen. 82 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,840 But yeah, I was blown away like that. 83 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,279 Because she has to, she's got a lot of work to do here, both 84 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,560 physically and like the switch up between the, you know, 85 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,000 whether she's psycho and then she's jump back into, you know, 86 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,480 whatever you want to lucidity or whatever you want to call it. 87 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,760 There's just some of it. It's just absolutely amazing. 88 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,200 I'm just, I'm dying to see more of what she can do because that 89 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,680 was just a wonderful performance. 90 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,840 And I I do hope she's getting the the plaudits she deserves. 91 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,560 What what did you think of the guy playing what Michael Johnson 92 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,160 playing Bear like? I think he's gotten a bit of 93 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,640 Flack for the for it, but I think that his performance is is 94 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,280 I think it's on purpose. Like he he's playing this, you 95 00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:56,720 know, nice guy, which is what, you know, guys, how come the 96 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,640 girls always pick, always pick the dumbasses, nobody the nice 97 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,560 guy, when really he's just as fucking toxic and he is like 98 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,680 you, you know, he's trying to play maybe playoff himself as 99 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,120 this, you know, the innocent nervous guy who's waiting out. 100 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,360 But really he's just as toxic. Like he knows what he's doing is 101 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,280 wrong. And yeah, like I thought I 102 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:17,000 actually was. I was actually fine with his 103 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,760 performance. There was times where I'm going, 104 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,400 what the fuck are you doing, character, But I was, I was 105 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,120 completely OK, I think with his performance. 106 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,280 Yeah, I think it's totally believable what he's doing. 107 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:30,160 It's not that hard trope where someone's doing something so 108 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,160 ridiculous that you're you're kind of go, why are you running 109 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,560 out the door? You know, one of these things I 110 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,560 thought he was he was excellent. Like he's obviously I'm 111 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,560 overshadowed by herself, but he plays like that kind of sad, 112 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,000 timid, kind of cowardly character at the start that you 113 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,680 kind of hate, but then you're kind of dragged into a struggle. 114 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:52,000 You believe his looks and actions when when this the the 115 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,240 girl of his dreams that he gets and it's just slowly the 116 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,960 relationship is kind of twisting around him and just starts to 117 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,400 fall apart. But he's still he still doesn't 118 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,640 just like kind of see the warning signs straight off and 119 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,520 go get the fuck out of there. He's still kind of going, Oh, 120 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,240 you know, please stop doing this crazy stuff, you know, because I 121 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:09,520 get it, because he just wants it to work. 122 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,920 And it's you're kind of sympathetic towards him while 123 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,360 also think he's a bit of a Dick because he knows what he's doing 124 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,880 and how the movie progresses. You know, it goes where it goes, 125 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,920 but like he wants to work it out and not that you're on his side, 126 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,200 but you just you do feel for him as it starts to go kind of tits 127 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,280 up and. I, I'm, I'm, I'm the opposite. 128 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,640 I didn't feel for him. I guess I was just angry at him. 129 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,520 I am like, I think if we kind of move into the kind of writing of 130 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:45,720 it a little bit like this is this is similar to a point that 131 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:46,960 I kind of made on another podcast. 132 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,560 I'm not sure if we end up cutting it out before, but it's 133 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,040 to do with something that I'm not going to say it actually, 134 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,280 because we'll get cancelled, but it rhymes with eight grape. 135 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,440 And like this is and this is something that was in and I'm 136 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,640 going to call it Wonder Woman 1984 and it and that is that 137 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,680 it's it's consent. And that's what this is about. 138 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,280 Like he he's essentially drugging this person and 139 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,440 assaulting them, but he and he knows what he's doing and his 140 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,720 friend has pointed out is this weird, but yet he's still doing 141 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,040 this. He knows what he's doing is 142 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,320 wrong. And not just that. 143 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:19,960 I mean, this is he knows that's not her. 144 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,440 He knows from the moment she starts acting weird. 145 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,440 He's like, this isn't you. So here he knows from the very 146 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,520 start, yet he carries on anyway. And I think that the you know 147 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,720 what may I think it's almost a blind spot when it comes to 148 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,480 movies like this from Hollywood in general that like we've got 149 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,120 this monkey's paw type thing, you know, where you get to make 150 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,600 a choice. And but the whole thing of 151 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,640 Wonder Woman is they make it this romantic kind of thing, 152 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,960 whereas this movie obsession, it shows a true and actual lens of 153 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,680 no, this is how fucking wrong it is. 154 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,440 Like you made it something lovely And that like in Wonder 155 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,880 Woman, she had Diana has sex with Trevor, you know, while his 156 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,840 like consciousness is basically piloting this other guy's body. 157 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,120 He never consented to it. But because it's this big 158 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,880 glossy, you know, superhero, Oh, they're in love. 159 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,960 Then we just let let it go. And I like that, you know, the 160 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,920 fact that the mainstream stuff ignores that in some of these 161 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,320 body swap things, that obsession leans into it, you know, and he 162 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,640 and Curry Barker is like that. This is so, so wrong. 163 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,360 It's an ethical nightmare. And I really, really like that. 164 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,360 I think it treats it with a kind of that that that subject with 165 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,200 the gravity that it deserves. And so, yeah, there's this guy 166 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,640 who might come across. So he's a nice guy compared to 167 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,919 his buddy Ian, who's a bit of a woman's man. 168 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:37,679 And the Messer, he's not, he's just, he's just as he's, he's 169 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,880 worse, you know, he's worse. And I, I love that it, it 170 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,840 doesn't hideaway from that that it really kind of jumps down on 171 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:50,440 the fact that her, her, her mind basically Nikki's mud has been 172 00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:53,040 hijacked and. Her free will, yeah. 173 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,040 Yeah. Free will has been taken from 174 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:55,360 her. Yeah. 175 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,840 It's it's not just like, oh, you know, this is fucking crazy. 176 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,760 And it's and I love the way the movie kind of leans into that 177 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,880 writing wise, where it's not just oh, she just, you know, her 178 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,000 free will is taken for everything. 179 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,240 But she doesn't, she doesn't turn into like a demon or a 180 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,400 zombie or something that's played for pure horror or in 181 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,440 something else, you know, where it's body swap or some of this 182 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,920 pure comedy or awkward some situations and all that. 183 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:21,040 This is the fact that you kind of see this shifting and the 184 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,160 shifting in her performance where it is moments where she's 185 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,240 like, what the what the hell is going on? 186 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,680 And then she just randomly just screams and then it's back to 187 00:09:26,680 --> 00:09:29,920 like, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry for you know, I won't do 188 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,480 that again. And this all this multiple 189 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,640 layers of this person inside and it's not overwritten to the 190 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,080 point where they're they're banging over the head saying, 191 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,960 Oh, she like she's in there, she's trying to get out. 192 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,680 It's just you get a glimpse at that haunting scenario. 193 00:09:43,680 --> 00:09:47,280 She must be facing inside just by those shifts. 194 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,040 And that's where some of the scares come from. 195 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,200 Is is not a jump scare. It's just the the scare is the 196 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,760 trauma of the shifting personality and her just 197 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,640 effortlessly just from a scream back to a softness. 198 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,320 And it's just, yeah, it kind of one brain. 199 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,840 One mind trying to comprehend? This fighting for this and and 200 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,520 it and towards the end, it really fucking double S down to 201 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:13,640 that, but it kind of leaves you to process that madness yourself 202 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,840 and and I think it works as well writing wise because it's it's 203 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,120 also it's obviously a supernatural, supernatural 204 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,640 premise, but it kind of treats it seriously. 205 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,160 Obviously you have that one wish, Willow and blah blah blah, 206 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,080 and you like the supernatural elements are the wish comes 207 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,200 true, but it doesn't it doesn't lean into those supernatural and 208 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,600 fantasy vibes. Apart from that, it treats it as 209 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,360 like this is a real person. This is what's happening, and 210 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,360 it's this kind of situational relationship fucking horror 211 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,080 drama that's kind of happening with this fucking kind of 212 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,640 douchebag and this woman I yeah, trapped in it. 213 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:49,600 And it's just. It's. 214 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,120 Eerie and it's really, it gets it's really dark and it but it 215 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,320 manages all those kind of tones from being kind of, you know, 216 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,440 it's dark comedy, the horror, but then it's really just 217 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,600 psychological trauma. You're witching or you're 218 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,840 watching through her, which is. It was just. 219 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,080 Yeah, just the moral implications of it are just 220 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,920 flying off the screen. Just yeah, that's going on here. 221 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,560 You can see then the kind of like the how similar, the kind 222 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:18,560 of theme and how similar it is to get Out in that way. 223 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,160 Like she's essentially in the sunken place from Get Out. 224 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,360 There's so many, so there's even a full on nod at one point. 225 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,600 You know she's in the restaurant with him at This isn't the 226 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:29,480 spoiler. Might even. 227 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:30,800 Be in the trailer. Trailer, I think, yeah. 228 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,680 Yeah, yeah, when she's sitting across and she just starts going 229 00:11:33,680 --> 00:11:36,520 no, no, no, with the big smile on her face. 230 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:40,200 And it's exactly like, what is her name? 231 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,440 Betty Gabriel from the from Get Out when she's doing that as 232 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:45,240 well. And then, you know, you see the 233 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,080 tear coming down her eyes and it's just. 234 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,280 It's an incredible scene from Betty Gabriel. 235 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:50,600 She's brilliant. Yeah. 236 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,280 And both. It's just it's showing that 237 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,320 glitch from the real person inside and what we're seeing on 238 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:58,560 the outside. And I love that. 239 00:11:58,560 --> 00:12:00,960 That's obviously a direct reference to that because of how 240 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,400 similar it is. But that I did want to say about 241 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,000 where he got the idea for because obviously the monkey 242 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,360 hole monkey paw thing isn't anything, you know, new, but he 243 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,280 actually got it from an episode. He was watching the Tree House 244 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,520 of Horror where Homer gets the monkey's paw to make his wishes. 245 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:20,720 Yeah. So he was watching tree house 246 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,600 horror and he just came to. He was like, what if a nice guy 247 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,240 got his hands on the monkey paw and made these, which is that's 248 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,080 where the idea came from, which I thought it was great. 249 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,480 But you've got some people who come out and say, oh, it was 250 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,680 from this novel that I'd written or much I drew in my childhood 251 00:12:34,680 --> 00:12:35,960 experiences. And he's like, that was tree 252 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,080 house horror. And I love that. 253 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:42,040 I love that honesty from him. But yeah, I thought, I just 254 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:46,240 thought I just really I liked, I loved the the hell basically. 255 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:47,240 I suppose you've already touched that. 256 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,120 That is that whole the way they've controlled the tone 257 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:51,960 throughout. Yeah, it does have some like 258 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,480 proper like laugh out loud moments, but it gets seriously 259 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,040 dark and unnerving at times, like a lot of her lines that 260 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,400 come off camera as well. You know, you've got you're not 261 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,080 even seeing her and the way they've got the sound, you don't 262 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,360 know where the fuck she's coming from when he's screaming. 263 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,400 It's just it's, it's wonderful sound design as well, I thought. 264 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,880 Yeah, and it it's like the mix of like obviously the pure 265 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,160 horror visuals, but also, as you said, like there's there's 266 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,720 there's parts where you can just hear her and there's other parts 267 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,280 where she's just kind of framed in a doorway and her face isn't 268 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,360 lit. It's just an interesting choice 269 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,280 where she's just standing there and you can see her and she's 270 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,520 and you're just trying to imagine what her facial 271 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,240 expression is like she's smiling if you're crying or anything 272 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,080 like that. But it's a yeah, it's, it's, 273 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,920 it's just the fact that like in terms of tone, as you were 274 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,080 talking about the, the unnerving scenarios and kind of 275 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,160 psychological terror mixed with kind of funny scenes as well. 276 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,960 Like the what I loved is the movie leans into the kind of 277 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,080 weirdness of it as well. It's like it has it's scary and 278 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,960 all that, but it's scary is never telegraphed and all that. 279 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,040 But sometimes, you know, romantic music is playing and 280 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,520 then something might fucking happen and you're never it's 281 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,960 you're never comfortable. But the, the, the weirdness of 282 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,280 the scenario I thought really came through in a couple of 283 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,120 scenes like the house party scene and stuff like that, where 284 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,840 it's just it's, it's, it's not scary her. 285 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,800 It's just really weird and uncomfortable scenes. 286 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,440 And it's so believable when she's just doing something weird 287 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,680 at a house party and reciting some weird fucking story. 288 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,160 She's written something and everyone just looking around, 289 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,080 just going, what the fuck is happening? 290 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:27,800 They're just, no one's saying anything because that's what you 291 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,040 do in that scenario. Yeah, yeah. 292 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,680 Looking down and like, oh, is anyone a beer? 293 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,200 What the fuck is going on with Nikki? 294 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,960 Like, that kind of stuff is just awkward weirdness. 295 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,040 And that was, that was a treat. And that's another part when 296 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,720 you're talking about that tone, it's just managing it just 297 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,960 brilliantly. It's really, really good. 298 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,200 But yeah, sound design is, is excellent. 299 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,600 It's it's not turned up to 11 like Holcomb like a few weeks 300 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,560 ago, but it's it's eerie. It's really eerie in especially 301 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,160 in the cinema and fucking surround sound. 302 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,120 It is it's just her voice when she's like, oh, I'm sorry, 303 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,200 whatever. And just one point, she's 304 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,520 watching him sleeping, like where the fuck is she in the 305 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,640 room? And it's not it's not played. 306 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,360 It's like a kind of ghost scary thing. 307 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,040 It's just it's kind of eerie. But then when she kind of 308 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,200 screams, especially in the cinema or if you're watching 309 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,520 this at home and streaming, put on earphones because scream, 310 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,840 it's just Jesus Christ. You know, if you had like, a cup 311 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,120 of Coke, of water, something, you're squeezing the bottle 312 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,400 while you're listening to her. It's just piercing, Yeah. 313 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,640 I thought another way that they kind of did to make things 314 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,960 unnerving was obviously, I mean how this was shot. 315 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,640 It was basically because it saved money I suppose. 316 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,880 They shot the two different houses. 317 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,640 Everything was shot in the one house, basically bar the the bar 318 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,200 and the shop where they work, you know, on the outside scenes, 319 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,320 like all the other stuff, the houses were all the same house 320 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,520 and they just, you know, changed it around, which I think was 321 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,800 great. But what I loved about how they 322 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,440 did the shop, they did this, what do they call it? 323 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,560 Extra headspace? And they're like, as they're 324 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,280 trying to make it look like something was off that give you 325 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,200 that uncanny valley vibe. And so everything was just just 326 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,280 to make things look like they're not quite right. 327 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,280 And so everybody's kept dead center in their shot with this 328 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,520 extra headspace above it. So you're almost got like, is 329 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:14,680 something going to come from there? 330 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,680 Like, you know, and it's just to keep you on edge. 331 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,000 And I really, really like that. I think stuff like that. 332 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,960 And we've mentioned in here before it, these things like 333 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:27,040 that are so simple yet so clever to get a very primal response 334 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,600 from you because your automatic reaction. 335 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,360 I've seen so many movies, so many years. 336 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,600 If you're putting someone center and giving, why, If they got a 337 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,680 headspace, something's going to have come from there. 338 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,680 What is it like? And it's just there to keep you 339 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,640 on edge. I love those like a like a. 340 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,680 Horror, a horror fake out, you know, yeah, it's just like 341 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,200 someone just got something going to come from here. 342 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:44,480 And then the puncher from the other side. 343 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,720 But that was umm, yeah. Like the framing in this is 344 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,120 spectacular cinematography wise. Like it obviously looks 345 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,040 brilliant and it's really, it's lit very well. 346 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,080 And for something that's coming in and around the $1,000,000 347 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,600 markets, it just goes to show that like what you can do with a 348 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,320 smaller budget and talented people. 349 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,800 And a lot of these people, like people who did the score and 350 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,160 cinematography, that they haven't done a lot of stuff like 351 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,960 this essentially kind of a YouTube group. 352 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,560 They're coming together. Yeah. 353 00:17:10,599 --> 00:17:10,839 Yeah. It's. 354 00:17:10,839 --> 00:17:12,079 Kind of do this isn't that he's part of. 355 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:16,240 Yeah, like and crew as well. It's just, it's phenomenal. 356 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,960 And the level of mastery on show. 357 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,880 Umm But yeah, like when you're talking about that, that 358 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:26,480 headroom, it's a similar thing that they're using where there's 359 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,520 a lot of times where it's just a, there's not a lot of a lot of 360 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,920 camera movement, but the camera will just be stationary on 361 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,160 somebody. And it's just as simple. 362 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,280 The camera just lowers into frame to reveal something. 363 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,640 You know, whether it's Nikki kind of standing there smiling, 364 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,200 and then we lower down to see her pissing on the ground or 365 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,440 whatever it is. It's just some just weird stuff. 366 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,640 But it's just such subtle and controlled movements that's just 367 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:53,480 so eerie in horrors like this. It's just I was just fantastic, 368 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,080 yeah. I think I think again, that 369 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:57,960 leans into something you mentioned earlier that as well. 370 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:03,920 Is that the the description of. OK, yeah, supernatural stuff. 371 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,320 They let you know what's happened. 372 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:06,520 Reason she suddenly become obsessed. 373 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:07,800 They have to make a reason for it. 374 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,520 And so we've got this one wish below, but we don't get a 375 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,320 massive amount of background anything about the lore. 376 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,000 Like it doesn't start off. Some movies like this would want 377 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,720 to give us tons and at the very start you'd see the one wish 378 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,320 Willow being created by fucking something mental or some sort of 379 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,000 curse and then we'd get the credits obsession and then 380 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,280 somebody finds it. Like I watched that movie 381 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,440 Whistle recently and we get a whole thing about and then 382 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,960 again, terrible movie, but those a lot of these things follow. 383 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:36,880 You know, they'll follow a certain thing, whereas they're 384 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,200 in this this one wish Willow thing was just something that he 385 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,520 designed along with his mom. They come up with a design of 386 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,280 what this was going to be and and that was it. 387 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:49,840 And I like that we get only a little bit of a read into what 388 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,280 this fucking thing is. You know, when he has to make a 389 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,000 phone call and it's no help to him And what would happen in so 390 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,680 many other movies was and in whistle and in smile and then 391 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,440 all these other things. There's always a way out or 392 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,200 there's something you can do that can get you out of this 393 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,040 predicament, you know, and smile, it was you can stop it if 394 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,400 you go and kill somebody else. Yeah, yeah, you can do this. 395 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,400 If you change this final destination, if you, you know, 396 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,960 stop it, it has to skip you. But in this it was just like, 397 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:18,200 no, you're fucked like that. That's just if. 398 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,760 You die, it'll cancel it. And and I think because it can, 399 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,520 but keep it that simple, that frees you up on your kind of 400 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,760 runtime and it you don't have to spend so much time explaining 401 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,920 the lore, the back story or this is what happened to to 402 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,320 foreshadow and set things up for the final act or something. 403 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,680 This is like, yeah, you're kind of fucked unless you die. 404 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:39,560 OK, thanks. Bye. 405 00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:44,280 OK. Which is is it's just fucking 406 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,040 grace. It's just and, and the fact that 407 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,840 like obviously when I think it's in the in the trailer when he's 408 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,640 on the phone to somebody about that, but then this is a part 409 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,360 where he goes back to the shop and it's just in simple 410 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:56,600 interaction with the person who sold. 411 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,440 It's just like, well, like you made the wish. 412 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:00,440 You shouldn't have fucking done that. 413 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,200 And he's just when you're talking about like this is an 414 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,640 actual fucking thing. It's just played so straight and 415 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:06,560 so just. Like, yeah, yeah. 416 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,520 Yeah, you made the wishes. This is on you, buddy. 417 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,520 And there is no way out. And it's kind of suitable for 418 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,320 that character. And what happens from? 419 00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:18,640 Yeah, no, I I agree. I think that that's I love the 420 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,560 fact that basically balls off and stuff are just like, yeah, 421 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,280 of course it's a real thing, as if everybody knows in the world 422 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,040 about these one wish Willows and he's after looking it up on 423 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,120 Reddit and everything and yeah, I just love that they're just 424 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:30,920 yeah, of course it's yeah, yeah, yeah. 425 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:33,520 That's that's that is brilliant. It's and it's great because I 426 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,160 think that in other movies you do want more of an explanation 427 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,080 because you want to know the rules around it, whereas in this 428 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,080 you get the rules very, very simply to you, You made the 429 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,160 wish. It's gone ours way. 430 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,480 There's no way out of it like it. 431 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,560 It's just that's great, but I but if it was more complicated 432 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,720 yeah, I don't want to know a bit more about the rules of the 433 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,800 universe and all that so I could get my head around it. 434 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:57,440 But no I thought that this was just enough to give you the 435 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:03,240 scenario and then away you go. But yeah, I I I I would just 436 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,000 love to see more from Curry Barcraft. 437 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,800 This I was you know it's it's like both him and obviously 438 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,080 Indian have already like they were. 439 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,800 I did both for me is both an absolute revelation because I 440 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,560 haven't seen his comedy stuff or her previous acting, but now I'm 441 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,600 like, right, I got to do a deep dive on both of them now because 442 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,920 I was just so blown away. I can't wait to see what he does 443 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,600 next. And this is doing so well. 444 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,480 There's no way he's not getting, you know, another big budget and 445 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:34,000 and like he's 26 when I was 26. I've I've repeat what I was 446 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,440 doing around that age, but like it I was being an absolute mess 447 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,680 of a person at the age of 26 and he's out here directing fucking 448 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,320 multi $1,000,000 well, grossing movie like fair. 449 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,480 He's got just yeah, I can. I can only imagine where he's 450 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,960 going to go from. Here I like it's like, yeah, you 451 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,920 talk about like breakup performances from from indie as 452 00:21:54,920 --> 00:22:00,520 Nikki, but like he is absolute star this in terms of movie 453 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,120 making. It's just like it's confident, 454 00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:06,120 stylish direction like but open, overly kind of polished and like 455 00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:07,920 that. But it's the, it's the, it's 456 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,480 like his framing and a choice of shots and, and the fact that he 457 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,160 edited as well. And it's, it's edited fucking 458 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,480 brilliantly, especially in terms of scares and suspense and dread 459 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,560 and all that. But the fact that he met and 460 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,040 manages from a directorial point of view, like he gets 461 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,360 performances out of the characters. 462 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,480 And but it's just that managing of humor and dread and awkward 463 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,640 romance and the escalating kind of horror. 464 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,920 He does it so effectively that, yeah, straight away just going, 465 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,960 Oh my God, like, give him just anything he wants to do. 466 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,680 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, couldn't agree more. 467 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,960 Do you want to have a quick chat about some spoilers? 468 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,520 And we'll just do a couple of minutes on spoilers. 469 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,680 So if you're leaving us there, we're going to give the quick 470 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,480 star rating and then we'll see you next week. 471 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,720 So it does on this one. Like I'm interested to see 472 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,680 because you've give, you've given it high praise and you 473 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,360 gave hokum high praise in a very high score. 474 00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:00,040 So I'm interested to hear what you gave this one. 475 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,440 This is easy beasy. 5 Five stars for B. 476 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,560 This is if I I thought Holcomb was really like, excellent 477 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,560 movie, but I think this is better kind of in every way. 478 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,400 It's kind of my type of horror. I think I'm finding a type of 479 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,120 horror For me, it's this kind of psychological horror that 480 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,400 doesn't lean too much into supernatural elements and kind 481 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,360 of weird witches, not that kind of stuff. 482 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,080 But yeah, five stars. It's just I couldn't really 483 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,640 think of anything when I was going through kind of notes, 484 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,440 just like I can't think of anything bad about this. 485 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,040 The performance is spectacular. It's brilliant piece of writing. 486 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,680 The premises expanded on perfectly and it's so simple. 487 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,640 It's nice. One hour, 50 minutes or 488 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,480 something like that. Everything kind of works for me, 489 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:48,320 but it really comes down to the director who's spectacular and 490 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,160 indie who's just mesmerizing. Like mesmerizing from you're 491 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,000 just watching her in screen and you know, like horror, horror 492 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,840 performances don't get as much wide, wide or mainstream praise 493 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,240 as they should. And I guess Amy Madigan got it 494 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,240 for weapons and obviously got an Oscar. 495 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,040 And hope you're hoping that will open the floodgates because this 496 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,480 is just an utterly captivating and stunning performance. 497 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,320 Unhinged, sympathetic, fucking volatile and unpredictable. 498 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,120 Just she was breathtaking and she just elevates it from what 499 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:23,320 could have been just a four-star movie and it's just straight up 500 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,800 to five stars. I thought this was absolutely 501 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,960 fantastic and one of my favorite movies of the year. 502 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,400 Excellent. I feel like I put myself into a 503 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,280 box here because I've never given any of our movies 5 stars 504 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,280 and if I start now then I'll do the ones I've made before. 505 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,880 Only 4 1/2 won't be yet, so I'm going as high as I have in any 506 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,600 other one, which is 4 1/2. Like my only issue I think is I 507 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,160 think that the final act could have been shorter. 508 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,000 I think that they'd build up to what we were getting. 509 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,880 Escalation could have that was dragged out a little bit, but 510 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,560 only a little bit. That's only a small gripe for 511 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,160 most part. I do really thought I agree with 512 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,200 all the points you mentioned as it's it's excellent and I'm glad 513 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,440 that someone points a fucking camera at this consent angle. 514 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,640 And I hope the Wonder Woman Wonder Woman makers are and 515 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,480 writers are looking at this house in the mirror in shame. 516 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,800 So if you were here, if you were leaving there, that's a here. 517 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,560 We're gonna have a couple of chatted with spoilers couple of 518 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,520 minutes about spoilers. But as you can tell, we 519 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,200 absolutely loved it. We've given it a very high 520 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,240 score, but we love to know what you think. 521 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,240 So jump in the comments, send us an e-mail, whatever you want. 522 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,760 Do you agree? Do you disagree? 523 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,440 And yeah, we'll see you on the next one. 524 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,960 If you're hanging around. We're just going to have a quick 525 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,120 chat about some of the spoilerific stuff. 526 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,400 It's let's think about it as like spoiler wise, it's a fairly 527 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,080 it's not, it's not a brand new massive story that does anything 528 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,720 that we can really spoil. But some of the I wouldn't say 529 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,800 one of the the deaths, the deaths of the the friend whose 530 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,120 name is Sarah. Is it in the car? 531 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,040 Unbelievable. She. 532 00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:55,680 Puts yeah, she puts the brick on the fucking wind on the steering 533 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,160 wheel and just bam bam spark in hell like that it. 534 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,000 Just keeps going, smacking her head off it and just keeps it in 535 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,400 frame. And his reaction and his his 536 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,080 reaction again is when we touched on that, that that like 537 00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:09,600 it's that resignation. There's so many moments where 538 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:14,040 he's just resigned to the fact like a fuck, like this is this 539 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,880 is it. Like there's just, there's no 540 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,000 like, Oh my God. It's just it's sitting there, 541 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,720 his blood splattering all over his face as she's just mashing 542 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,120 her face into this fucking brick over and over again. 543 00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:26,880 And it's, yeah, it's just the fact that it keeps going. 544 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:32,040 And apparently the director said, I think he said he he he 545 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,520 had to cut some of that out because they must have went a 546 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,080 bit fucking further and because he wanted to, because in the 547 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,760 states, like he wanted the OR rating and not NC 17 because NC 548 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,640 17 restricts you and lot of cinemas and showtimes or 549 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,320 something. But that was astonishing, 550 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,240 astonishing. But then there's like there's so 551 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,960 many like just moments where even the fact when she's just 552 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,280 talking in the house party and she has that giant Jenga block, 553 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,320 she's like, Oh, I'm so sorry. And she just starts smashing 554 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,760 herself in the face. And just little moments like 555 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,440 that, you're going fuck it. This is so this is so fucking 556 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,320 dark. It's so unpredictable, but not 557 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,320 in the kind of Boo, you know, shock her. 558 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,360 And because there are a few jumpscares, but it's even little 559 00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:17,120 things when he when he's eating a sandwich and Sarah's going 560 00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:19,880 like, what's the note mean? That because she made you your 561 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,440 lunch, it's like, what, what, what was it a cat sandwich or 562 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:25,640 something? Or yeah, yeah. 563 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,640 What did you think of the my new recipe cat? 564 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,840 And he's just looking down. He's eating his fucking dead 565 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,320 cat. And just like, oh, Christ 566 00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:35,320 almighty. And then that they kind of stuck 567 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,760 with me. But it's it's that one shot 568 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:43,080 where she's where she's barricaded the door with tape 569 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,400 and stuff and he's like, OK, what the fuck is going on in the 570 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,480 open? She's like, bye. 571 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,680 She just stands there smiling and the camera just stays in 572 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,480 her. And it should have touched in 573 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,200 this and editing, but it just stays on her smiling. 574 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,960 And she's like smiling. Yeah. 575 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,680 And she and your one indie was saying the director didn't say, 576 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,440 you just didn't say cut. And so she just kept smiling 577 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,600 there. He just kept the take for 578 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,080 fucking ages. And that's when the camera 579 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,720 eventually kind of drops down. You see that she's just pissing 580 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,080 on the floor, just standing there waiting. 581 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,840 And then later on, she shatters herself. 582 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,120 She's still standing there. It's like, Oh my God, it's 583 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,040 fucking as. Vicious like that. 584 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,960 That door got a fall on laugh out of me. 585 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,960 Like as you see him, I was like why he seemed so uneasy and he 586 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,760 started leaving the house and stuff and obviously he must have 587 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,520 seen the door already. And they just cut to the door 588 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,400 and it's like something out of you would see in like a 589 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,440 slapstick, you know, the whole door just blasting with fucking 590 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,600 duct tape. That is brilliant. 591 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,920 And that's a. Tone being nailed into any other 592 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,200 movie you'd like to see that door and be like, you know, 593 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,120 horror music like oh, and she'd be like don't leave now 594 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,480 whatever, but she's just like acts as if she hasn't done it. 595 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,600 She's just like, oh, just, you know, maybe he. 596 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,280 Can't get out, but he. Might have to stay with me. 597 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,320 It's so innocent and soft and everything, but you're like, Oh 598 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,480 my God. But her towards the end, yeah. 599 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,840 When you have just the sequence with him and when he kills 600 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,680 himself and when you think she like she's going to shoot 601 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,280 herself and then she kind of snaps out of it. 602 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,600 And that for me is, is it's another reason why it goes to 603 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,680 five stars, the final shot. And it's got some of the best 604 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,160 end credits. Yeah, I've ever seen in my life. 605 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,040 But it's the shot of her and it kind of pans down and then goes 606 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,280 to the to the TV, some TV's and upside down. 607 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,960 And when it was doing that, I was like, please play the 608 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,280 credits on the TV. Please play the credits come on 609 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,720 the TV upside down. It's brilliant. 610 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,600 But you hear the music, some music comes on and you just hear 611 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,600 her just her wailing over the credits like this is where you 612 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,440 go. This is absolutely fucking 613 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,360 brilliant. So weird. 614 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,640 That's on back is one of the main the big spoilers. 615 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,040 I want to talk about is a question I had for you because I 616 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,360 was a little bit confused at the because at the end right, we 617 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,000 know that to stop the curse and to free her, he has to die. 618 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,120 That's the only that's the way that you end up doing it. 619 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:56,120 So he takes a bunch of pills. He ends up dying, right? 620 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,280 But before that, he wants to try and get someone else to make a 621 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,800 wish to cancel out his wish. And so he has this one wish, 622 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,200 Willow out of the packet. Now it's on the ground. 623 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,840 And when he's inside about trying to get himself to puke up 624 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,880 the pills because he's a coward and he's changed his mind, he 625 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,320 hears the sound of it being broken, the music being played 626 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,640 outside. So does he rush out of that room 627 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,960 because he thinks that she's made the wish and everything's 628 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,440 back to normal? Is that why he comes out? 629 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,680 Or like what's the reason of showing? 630 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,280 Because it cuts to the thing and we get a shot of this one wished 631 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,600 Willow, but no one has made a wish, you know, like she's the 632 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,280 one that broke it. I assume when she stands on it 633 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,000 because he's in the bathroom when it breaks. 634 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,600 So those obsessed Nikki make a wish. 635 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,600 Like what is what? What was the significance of 636 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,000 showing us that or having it break and doing that? 637 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,600 I don't I just don't get it. Or is it just, is it a full, 638 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,160 really mean yank the rug out for under him that he's about to? 639 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:52,960 It's like. Then he hears her stepping on 640 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,720 that and he thinks, OK, Ebony's gonna be OK with him and he 641 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:57,880 walks out. No, it's not. 642 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,600 It's his last doubt. I think it's his last, yeah. 643 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,840 Just hope that is it's still just destroyed. 644 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,200 I mean, it's, it's like him getting his comeuppance. 645 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,920 I think because of the character. 646 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,400 And I for me, I've felt like when I was saying, I felt kind 647 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,480 of sympathetic. You're almost just like, you 648 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,680 know, you feel sorry for a villain sometimes when they have 649 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,440 a moment when they're just like a fuck and you have that soft 650 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,240 moment, something like a panos or something like that. 651 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,240 And just like, ah, yeah, that he, he has, he thinks he's going 652 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,160 to kill himself in the bathroom, takes the pills and he's like, 653 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,600 maybe he just has that one last thing. 654 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,360 Oh, maybe I'll go out and maybe things will be OK. 655 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,880 And it's, it's not, it's really fucking not. 656 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,640 But yeah. But it's just, it's just so, 657 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,720 yeah, sad. But like even the, the, the part 658 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,880 when when his friend Ian breaks it and you go, I wish for a 659 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,200 billion dollars, you know, when the, when the money falls down 660 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,160 from the ceiling then. But then there's that shot and 661 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,680 it's a shot through him as the money's falling down. 662 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,680 And again, it's that resignation where he's just like, oh, fuck. 663 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,120 And the music kicks in. It's just a shot of him and just 664 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,800 falls to his knees. And it's just that alone is just 665 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,680 like this is it's fucking brilliant. 666 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,760 Like it's just he's the both characters been broken in 667 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:10,200 different ways. I love his death when he comes 668 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,920 over to Bear's house and he's like, I've got $1,000,000 to 669 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,040 that. She just one shot to the head 670 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,520 just fucking kills him. Fucking. 671 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,000 Brilliant. I get a billion dollars. 672 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,240 Yeah, it's just, ah, it's just so fucking good, man. 673 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,280 It's so good. I'm so happy I went to see it. 674 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,040 Yeah, I think, I think, yeah, we're finished up there then. 675 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,960 OK guys, thanks very much for sticking around. 676 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,440 And we're going to be back next week with another great movie. 677 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,200 Keep on liking subscribing. We really appreciate it. 678 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,840 Stick some comments in. 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